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The advance booking counters of Yamla Pagla Deewana opened yesterday (Wednesday) at multiplexes and the response was good in the North and average elsewhere. This was expected as the the film has a very Northern flavour and the Deols are also hugely popular in the area.
Some centres in Punjab were outstanding. Wave Ludhiana saw 1100 tickets sold out of 2650 for Friday and 1900 tickets were sold for the weekend. All on first day of advance. The figures are comparable to Dabangg and Tees Maar Khan at the theatre.
East Punjab could see huge day one collections as the Punjab state centres are going to be extraordinary going by advance but Gurgaon and Faridabad will also have contribute well if the whole circuit total is to be very big.
Delhi/UP also saw a good advance with some theatres being very good.
Yamla Pagla Deewana Opening: Punjab Bumper All India Good Average
Friday 14th January 2011 11.30 IST
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The opening of Yamla Pagla Deewana ranged from 30-100% depending on location. Punjab was by far the best with cities like Amritsar, Jalandhar, Chandigarh and Ludhiana recording full houses. The collections at cinemas in these places are likely to be records for day one. But on the other hand there was Mumbai city and South which had just 30-35% collections and will need good word of mouth to pick up.
Delhi/UP and Haryana was best after Punjab with a 60-70% opening, other places were in the 40-50% range. On an all India basis its a Good/Average opening. Overall the film will have to pick up in Mumbai city so the collections look healthy as Mumbai has a large contribution to the all India tally.
Yamla Pagla Deewana Scores Heavily At Single Screens
Friday 14th January 2011 16.30 IST
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Yamla Pagla Deewana has opened extremely well at single screen across the country. In Delhi/UP, East Punjab and Rajasthan single screens are huge with some screens even going over capacity. In Punjab and Lucknow, the posters of Dharmendra and Sunny Deol were garlanded by their fans while in CP Berar the prints were garlanded by their fans, the other star to whom this has happened to over the past few years is Salman Khan.
Even at other places single screens are strong with 60-75% collections but the problem for the film is multiplex business outside East Punjab and Delhi/UP. In these circuits multiplex business is 70-100% depending on location but multiplexes outside these circuits are in the 30-50% range for the first few shows.
A pick up in multiplexes outside Delhi/UP and East Punjab will give Yamla Pagla Deewana a very healthy weekend.
BOI should for a change be honest and just say this film has no appeal outside E Punjab (a negligible territory even if BOI seem to be quite partial to it) and Delhi-UP where I doubt it will do well if it doesn’t outside Delhi. But this is an old BOI trick. Focus heavily on E Punjab as if it’s the Bombay territory and then pretend the film is SHolay there! This has been their modus operandi with the Deols!
don’t have anything against the film. Who could begrudge the Deol brothers success of any sort?!
THE organizers of this past weekend’s Bollywood concert in Durban have denied trying to dupe the public into attending a semi-ANC mouth-off as opposed to a the promised Pro20 cricket match-cum-Ntini-send-off-cum-Bolly extravaganza.
There has been a mass public outcry following the event with Durbanites seemingly hot under the collar at what they view to have been a politically ambushed show.
Some of the comments that were SMS’d to the Daily News Backchat line, a facility for the paper’s readers to share their views on issues, included:
*Why was the Bollywood show after the Pro20 match used as a political platform on Sunday? My family of four paid a total of R1 800 to listen to politicians making inane speeches! To boot, one politician referred to the main star, Shah Rukh Khan, as Farouk Khan!
*New Age promotions duped 50 000 people who paid enormous money for the Bollywood concert to further their own political ambitions!
*… The two compères were amateurish, almost childish. Not as much dancing and singing as was expected… with Kapoor doing his best to promote a certain political party. With municipal elections around the bend, maybe this was what it was really about.
*The concert after the cricket was shocking, absolute s***. Too much talking. The presenters did not know how to interact with the audience. Not a professional show.
In the Daily News Letters column, Ashnee Jacobs from Phoenix wrote: “… To tag it as a 150 years Indian arrival celebration was an insult… Up to the Pro20 cricket match, the ANC earned the wrath of the crowd when they started dishing out political awards. I could hear the people asking ‘What about Monty Naicker, JN Singh and Mr. A Rajbansi?’… there were preliminaries lasting about one and a half hours, tinged with party politics and the most lackluster Bollywood concert ever… At one stage the MC asked the crowd “are you enjoying the show?”and the crowd responded, “No”…
Tsholo Moraba, Event Media and PR Spokesperson, said the concert was not a political attempt to win votes, adding that “government and not any party” was represented. In response to comments that New Age had duped people to advance a political agenda, he said New Age was the title sponsor for the event, “as part of their commitment to further the sport of Cricket…”.
Responding to comments that there was too much talking, too little music, Moraba said the event was a themed celebration of sport, culture and history between two nations. “The public was made aware of this and it was communicated throughout the night that is what this was about and not just a vain concert of no consequence.”
Here are the questions put to Moraba and his related answers:
Q: What response can you offer people who feel they were duped into attending an event largely aimed at promoting the ANC? Do you feel this is a fair comment on the concert? Was there a need for so many political speeches on the programme?
Moraba: “The inaugural T20 Friendship Cup between South Africa and India forms part of the multinational celebrations celebrating the arrival of Indians to South Africa 150 years ago. Many such commemorations were held during the course of 2010 by various bodies in KwaZulu-Natal. This one, The New Age Friendship Celebration was a celebration through Cricket and Bollywood entertainment.
“The celebration not only looks at the past relations between South Africa and India, but serves as a platform and catalyst to build deeper and wider relations between South Africa and India. In light of this, we see I as a good thing that “government” endorsed the event from a diplomatic perspective by the president of the country, an ‘Arts and Culture’ perspective by Minister of ‘Arts and Culture’.
“By no means was this a political attempt to win votes for any elections on the part of government. It is very important to note that “Government’ was present and represented, and ‘not’ any party.
“From our understanding, in the president’s address he commended the efforts of the organisers and encouraged deeper relations between India and South Africa and the sharing of cultures.
“Therefore, it is not a fair statement at all to call this a political concert, as it was not. As too in the 2010 World Cup Opening was not considered a Party Political affair, but as a State affair.
“Mentions of any party by the ‘Indian First Decedents’ speakers, whom we allowed room to share their experience as Indians in South Africa over the past 150 years, in their own words, are certainly not the views and values of the organisers. As organisers, we did not influence them or have any part in what they wanted to say. They spoke as members of the Indian community and in their own private capacity.”
Q: In your opinion, did people get their money’s worth in terms of the money paid for tickets versus the quality of the comperes and the amount of entertainment that was on offer?
Moraba: “The tickets ranged from R100 to R350 for a full day of Cricket and Bollywood entertainment on the same ticket. The entertainment included some of Bollywood’s leading performers: Shahrukh Khan, Anil Kapoor, Malaika Aroura, Priyanka and Shahid Kapoor to name but a few, as well the South African performers: Locnville, Drum Café and First Project. We would call that good value for money.
“The programme was holistic and covered what sports lovers may have wanted to know about their favourite cricket stars and the best Bollywood could offer. Anil Kapoor’s narrations gave context to the celebrations and told the story of two nations coming together to commemorate such an import day for both nations.
“The two compares for the evening, are well-known personalities and presenters in the country, former Miss South Africa, Claudia Henkel and Bollywood and SA TV personality, Tarina Patel. It is unfortunate to think that the audience did not enjoy the service they rendered on the night as they are professionals, and this is part of what they are famous for. We will certainly look into this.”
second half is far better compared to 1st..
Sunny deol saves the day.. dharam ji and Bobby – Ok
Supporting cast which were shown as punjabi’s (2nd half) awesome performance..Kulraj is beautiful and can act the other girl(dont know her name) whose tag line is to marry a nri cananda and ‘i love caneda’ has done wonderful job
So overall loved it… It look to go good with family.. ppl should enjoy it. n no for hard nose guys
Amit Pandey
Hyd,India
PS : My parents n sisters will all are coming to visit us in Hyderabad next week.. might take them to watch it again
With this opening of YPG in Punjab can we call Deols the Rajnikanths of Punjab?
And, in the same vein-
Aamir – the Rajinikanth of the discerning
Salman- Rajinikanth of single screens
SRK- Rajinikanth of ass monkeys
Amitabh- Rajinikanth of the subcontinent
And what about Rajini/
I guess we can call him the Amitabh of the South.
Not all the Deols, but Sunny. Dharm Ji is obviously past his prime and most would agree that Sunny’s best days are behind him. However, Sunny is so loved not only in Punjab but in North India and his fan base is so loyal to him as long as he is in a proper role, and frankly he hasnt done a proper Sunny role since the Hero in 2003. I’m happy for the Deols. I always think that Bollywood is a better place when my to favorite filmy familys are successfull, the Bachans and the Deols.
Watching Dharmendra in films like Johnny Gaddar & Metro has been really uplifting. I love this particular dialog from JG: “It’s not about the age; It’s about the mileage”. Felt goosebumps while watching it unfold on screen.
Latest Update: ‘Yamla Pagla Deewana’ is fantastic in India, very good in U.K.
- By Taran Adarsh, January 15, 2011 – 13:25 IST
The Friday numbers are out! YAMLA PAGLA DEEWANA seems to have amassed a booty in India. This new film, starring the Deols, collected approx. Rs. 7.85 cr to Rs. 8 cr nett [early estimates] on its opening day. The numbers can be termed fantastic because the revenue contribution hasn’t been much from multiplexes, but from single screens mainly. The business has picked up everywhere and the Saturday numbers are expected to be better than Friday.
In U.K., YAMLA PAGLA DEEWANA collected £ 46,328 on Friday, despite bad weather. APNE had collected £ 180,124 in its opening weekend and YAMLA PAGLA DEEWANA should cross that figure.
The Friday numbers of the remaining films in U.K. are as follows:-
NO ONE KILLED JESSICA/Week 2 – £ 7,726. Total so far: £ 129,990.
SIRUTHAI [Tamil film] – £ 6,073 [new release]
TEES MAAR KHAN/Week 4 – £ 1,046. Total so far: £ 702,167
AADUKALAM [Tamil film] – £ 678 [new release]
ISI LIFE MEIN – £ 56 [new release]
Yamla Pagla Deewana has done very well on its first day despite underperformance at multiplexes in most parts of the country. The first day business is 7.75 crore nett approx.
He had everything going for him in his career until that spat with Rajkumar Santoshi, over a stupid Bhagat Singh film which ruined everyone associated with it.
If the reviews are anything to go by, he is the show stealer again despite limited screen time compared to his brother. All he needs is an author backed role with a good director. Dont know if any of the new crop of good directors would be in a mood to cast him.
B.O. update: ‘YPD’ starts with a bang in North, better at single screens, average at plexes
- By Taran Adarsh, January 15, 2011 – 08:11 IST
YAMLA PAGLA DEEWANA started with a bang in North India. The film is expected to set new records/history at several stations of Punjab, if one goes by the opening day trends. In fact, the opening day business should be at par with DABANGG at several stations here … The other circuits where the film has opened to an extremely favorable response include Delhi [single screens are very good; plexes started average, but showed better response in evening shows], Uttar Pradesh [ranges from excellent to good], Rajasthan [very good] … The response in Mumbai city-suburbs was strictly okay, with the film garnering a better start at single screens [75% +], but witnessed a low turnout at plexes [30% to 40%; picked up from evening show onwards] … Gujarat is good and is expected to grow on Saturday due to holiday … Circuits like C.P. Berar and C.I. have opened well too. Again, the business is divided here, better at single screens, but fair to decent at plexes … The contribution from single screens has been enormous, while plexes haven’t really contributed much.
Taran says fay 1 is 7.85-8 crores (don’t you love that range?!). Both he and BOI are on the same page as has happened almost always in recent times (once this wasn’t true). So again both are really talking about E Punjab and Delhi/UP single screens with the film elsewhere clearly just average at best on the basis of single screens. Nonetheless if this range is the right one it is still a good number for the film. I certainly don’t mind the Deols getting a success of any sort here even if I have never quite been able to stand either brother.
CBO – Dec 24 to 26
Thursday, 30 December , 2010, 14:33
Kamal Haasan’s Manmadhan Ambu, which opened in 19 Chennai screens has taken a good opening and is the number one. It has netted around Rs 85 lakhs in the opening weekend, but carries mixed reports.
Farah Khan-directed Tees Maar Khan is at number two and has taken a share of Rs 25.5 lakhs from 9 Chennai screens, nowhere in the league of her earlier films Main Hoon Naa and Om Shanthi Om.
In third place is Sasikumar’s Easan, which is dropping. At number four is the new Nagarjuna starrer Ragada, which took flying opening but fell badly by Sunday.
In fifth position is Chutti Chathan – in 3D – which took an average opening.
Chennai Box Office – Dec 31 to Jan 2
Tuesday, 04 January , 2011, 11:49
Manmadhan Ambu is doing very well in the Chennai multiplexes and has netted nearly Rs 2 crore in 10 days, and is the number one. The Kamal Haasan film seems to have reached its target audience, at least in Chennai city.
Far below, in the second position, is the Sasikumar-directed Easan, which has dropped and carries mixed reports.
Holding a premiere (albeit after the release) seems to have worked for the 3D film Chutti Chathan, which has picked up in its second weekend and is at number three.
At number four is the evergreen hit Enthiran, and in fifth position is Band Baaja Baaraat, which is turning out to be a dark horse at the box office.
Chennai Box Office – Jan 7 to 9
Thursday, 13 January , 2011, 17:22
The first CBO of the year is not exactly rocking, thanks to lacklustre content. There was only one Tamil release, Manmadhan Ambu, and it didn’t even get proper single screens. Collections for the Kamal Haasan starrer have been disappointing. However, due to lack of competition, it is still number one.
No One Killed Jessica, starring Rani Mukerji and Vidya Balan, has taken a very good opening – especially in the multiplexes – and is at number two.
In third position, due to lack of new releases, is Sasikumar’s Easan.
At number four is the 3D film Chutti Chathan and in the last spot is Enthiran, which celebrated its 100-day run.
Kerala Box Office – Nov 16 to Jan 10
Wednesday, 12 January , 2011, 17:03
The Kerala box office is alive and kicking. Marykondu Oru Kunjadu is a super hit and the clear number one among the Christmas and recent releases. In 10 days, the film has taken a distributor’s share of Rs 2.65 crore, which is fantastic and almost the entire production cost of the film!
At number two is Mammootty’s Best Actor, which will cover its cost from Kerala theatricals.
In third position is Dileep’s Karaysthan, a big hit for the actor. At number four is Again Kasargode Kader Bhai, a low budget film that took an opening in main stations and is good in B and C stations.
At number five is Mohanlal’s Kandahar, which turned out to be one of his biggest flops.
Hit Filmmakers Of Today V/s. Hit Makers Of Yesteryears
Such is the poor fate of Akshay Kumar and Katrina Kaif’s Tees Maar Khan that the first week’s occupancy of the film at Novelty Lalbagh cinema, Lucknow was a meagre 80 percent; in its second week, the footfalls nosedived so that the occupancy at the same theatre dropped to 35 percent.
In its third week, the occupancy further fell to 10 percent. In other words, ‘Tees Maar Khan‘ was not even able to recover the theatre rental in its third week, earning it the dubious distinction of going what in trade parlance is called in deficit.
Lamented a trade person, “In the good old days, names of directors like Manhoman Desai and Prakash Mehra guaranteed hits and super-hits. When you booked their films at cinemas, you were assured that they would run for 15-25 weeks. But, with today’s filmmakers, respectable collections for even 15 shows are no guarantee.”
It is hard to dislike the Deols. Dharamji, obviously enjoys a great deal of affection from almost everyone. Much as one may be indifferent to Sunny, it is still hard to root against the sons as well.
Plus, their films, regardless of the quality seem more rooted.
If Salman can do a Dabaang, hope Sunny too can make a comeback with a good masala entertainer.
Sunny is probably the best start son ever alongside Sanju baba off-course(Don’t think too highly of Hrithik & let’s not even talk about Ab’s baby dammit !)
Sunny still have few good films left in him provided he can collaborate with some really good directors & picks his stock carefully. The guy is still very popular amongst the hardcore masses even if the multiplex thronging audience consider him a box office fossil.
Sunny is probably the best star son ever alongside Sanju baba off-course(Don’t think too highly of Hrithik & let’s not even talk about AB’s baby dammit !)
Sunny still have few good films left in him provided he can collaborate with some really good directors & picks his stock carefully. The guy is still very popular amongst the hardcore masses even if the multiplex thronging audience consider him a box office fossil.
A historical lesson might be in order here. Raj Kapoor was himself a star son!
What I will grant is that Dharam and Sunny are probably the only father-son team to have appeared in all time hits. Of course unlike yourself I managed to notice the other stars in Sholay but this is an interesting stat nonetheless. But Raj Kapoor remains the greatest star son never to be equaled let alone surpassed. Abhishek in this sense has the impossible task for who could equal or surpass his father?! But I’d take Rishi any day of the week over Sunny and his brother. It’s not even close. And Dutt is again vastly preferable to Sunny as far as I’m concerned, specially in his later persona. But I’ll stick with the Kapoors today — I’d easily take Shashi over Dharam’s sons and Shammi as well. Deol has always been extremely wooden as far as I’m concerned, possibly the most wooden major star in Bombay film history though later on he started screaming and persuaded many he was an actor. The one thing Sunny has bred however is a certain Punjab-centrism that his father with all his obvious roots in that soil was never limited to. Dharam was a true blue Indian bona-fide, the greatest of the non-superstars (this word once meant something). Sunny after the early 90s developed this career of ‘resentment’ which combined a certain obtuse machismo with nationalist aggression and the ‘well done Punjabi man-steak’ syndrome. Dharam was never about this somewhat nasty construct.
I am talking about Star son here..not actors…The kind of BO success sunny has witnessed i don’t think any other star son has achieved.. he has attained super stardom (although it was for a short period)..
“I’d easily take Shashi over Dharam’s sons and Shammi as well”
Now don’t tell me this…Big B has done 7/8 films with Shashi and that will make these films multi starers with two big stars …If some one will now start counting BIg B’s multi starers u will probably prove the reverse..that how those stars were not big stars..
“The one thing Sunny has bred however is a certain Punjab-centrism”
This was only after gadar…but before that what about ghayal, ghatak, jeet, damini and lot more movies…those were not Punjab-centrism…
” Of course unlike yourself I managed to notice the other stars in Sholay”
Well i have also noticed that most of the bachhan movies had other stars also…
Well Raj Kapoor was a star son! I was hoping I wouldn’t have to extend the history lesson but his father Prithviraj Kapoor was one of the biggest stars of the 40s. Raj Kapoor famously (or apocryphally) told his father that one day the world would know him as Raj Kapoor’s father!
Even in the 90s Sunny Deol was moving towards those anti-terrorism films and so on. In some sense Yashraj dried up the action genre but also the best talents weren’t making these films anymore. The only way out was to get jingoistic and start screaming at the drop of a hat! Sunny in any case had a rather mixed box office record after his first hit in Betaab and then Arjun in a year or so. Almost everything he did failed all the way till Ghayal in 1990 which was at the time his great relaunch film. People who question Abhishek’s box office today and which certainly seems questionable since Guru should set this 4 year period against Sunny’s even longer ones in both the 80s and 90s. After Ghayal once again he had Darr where he was played dirty by Yash Chopra and SRK ran away with the film in any case. Through the rest of the decade he more or less bumbled along barring Border, most of the other films weren’t even serious A grade efforts. He then had a huge moment in Gadar in 2001. became once more a very important star but that window was brief. Indian did fairly well, the Hero disappointed after a big opening and Sunny was more or less in perilous and constant decline after this. We know the rest. Hopefully I won’t be questioned further on all this, otherwise I can easily produce a complete list of his films from the 80s and 90s to prove this.
On Sholay let’s be serious! But yeah the film just happened to have post-Zanjeer and post-Deewar Bachchan not to mention Bachchan’s other hits in between. It just happened to have Gabbar who is possibly the greatest show stealer in cinematic history anywhere! And it had the biggest female star of the 70s in Hema Malini! Dharam was certainly a huge draw at the time but to call Sholay a Dharam outing requires frankly a level of delusion not easily matched!
On Bachchan’s multistarrers yeah it might come as some news to you since these historical missives seem to have left you untouched but every star in that Bachchan period was a box office pygmy compared to him. I am very sorry to inform all Punjab enthusiasts that big as this star was he was never in that league. He was ‘second’ to Rajendra Kumar, ‘second’ to Rajesh Khanna, ‘second’ to Bachchan’. I adore Dharam as much as anyone else (I daresay with considerably more sense and sensibility than ‘Deol’ partisans usually bring to the table) but he was never the defining star of any period. All of this is so obvious that this scarcely needs repetition unless one is willingly or otherwise historically challenged.
“On Bachchan’s multistarrers yeah it might come as some news to you since these historical missives seem to have left you untouched but every star in that Bachchan period was a box office pygmy compared to him.”
LOL…this sentence of urs reminds me one dialogue from one sunny’s movies…Damini
“Judge Sahab pehle Chaddha sahib ne yeh kaha ki Damini pagal hai..phir who keh rahe ki woh chalak hai ..scheme kar sakti hai…jo ladki pagal hai woh chalk nahin ho sakti ya toh phir jo ladki chalak hai woh pagal nahin ho sakti..”
Previously U said Shashi Kapoor and Rishi Kapoor were biggers star sons than Sunny..now u r telling these guys were pygmy in front of Big B. LOL that makes every body including Sunny pygmy in front of Bachhan.
Then also it makes my point clearer…
1. Big B was never a huge star… that now a days his fans keep shouting. He was Shehensah among Pygmies. No other star of his time could give completion to him. That’s why he got the biggest directors of his time lined up for him.
2. Stars like SRK/Aamir/Salman/Hrithik faced multiple superstars at their time.
3. BIG B is the only superstar who could not break the record of his biggest grosser Sholay. If he was such a big star then he should have while he was in his prime.
4. His second biggest grosser was coolie and we know the reason why it did so much business.
5. Pygmies or what ever, but the truth is he always did numerous multi starers.
His biggest grosser are multistarrers with big stars of his time.
“Previously U said Shashi Kapoor and Rishi Kapoor were biggers star sons than Sunny”
Actually I did not.. check out the original response!
On the rest once upon a time I used to argue this sort of thing endlessly on NG. But I waste my time less often these days when folks seems extraordinarily poor on the basic facts and/or are severely biased to the degree that they have their alternate versions of history.
Bhalo_Manush, Just to correct you at one point, Amitabh biggest hit was Muqaddar Ka Sikandar, and it was all time hit and second biggest hit after sholay. MKS was monster and if sholay was not there, MKS would have been biggest hit of 70′s and 80′s.
Jeevan, there are flat-earth folks on Bachchan all over the blogosphere.. one can argue only upto a point.. I once did it all the time but at the end of the day if you think the earth is round and you’re in a desperate argument with those who call it flat you might be the more foolish for arguing! Of course the factual claims made by Bhalo-Manush on MKS and Coolie are not surprisingly completely inaccurate. But this is a flat earth where Sunny is still ruling Bollywood but for a couple of wrong choices!
MKS gross was much less than that of Sholay (about 60%) and even less than Coolie.
My point is 70′s was different. A lot of big stars did movies together. If they would not have then story would have been different. Some of them are being called pygmies now.
Apart from this also a lot of factors like piracy, internet, exposure to international movies, rise in television and lot of other entertainment factors, which basically needs consideration while comparing two stars of different generation.
It’s not clear what is being compared here? Is it acting skill or look or success?
In Vidhata Dutt couldn’t even mutter his dialogs in front of Dilip kumar and except Mummabhai series he is just like a machine and that also very rusty one. In Kshatriya both were together and Sunny had an edge.
RK was never on the top or even versatile as an actor. Rishi a certainly very good actor but again not versatile or even tested in different rolls. Both were in Damini and again Sunny had an edge and An award.
Shashi again was never in quality but only after quantity and As Bhalo_Manush rightly pointed he had many films with AB.
I completely agree with Bhalo_Manush about Sunny’s versatility in Ghayal, Ghatak, Jeet, Damini, Arjun, Border and many others.
His greatest strength was he never gave any reasons to compare him with his very successful father.
All arguments aside, Pradeep thats anunfaircharacterisation of Dutt’s career.
How can one ignore Vaastav,Naam, Sadak, Khalnayak etc where he was quite effective
Raj Kapoor was easily the most successful star son ever. At least so far. He was among the ruling trio of Bombay cinema in the 50s. Dilip was probably first among equals but these three (along with Dev) dominated. On Shashi and Rishi I prefer them as actors and stars, the uncle was hardly comparable to the nephew but he had a very winning presence. Dutt should I think seriously be reckoned with only beginning with Naam. Though I don’t rate him very highly as an actor (though he can often surprise) I think Dutt is dramatically superior to Sunny as an actor. His career best moments from Naam to Sadak to Vaastav to Munnabhai to some others easily overshadow Sunny. Just as an overall package I find him infinitely preferable.
Pradip, I am rather shell-shocked though that you consider Sunny versatile but not Rishi. The latter was one of the most natural actors ever! But again my own view has always been that Sunny can’t act to save his life.
“I completely agree with Bhalo_Manush about Sunny’s versatility in Ghayal, Ghatak, Jeet, Damini, Arjun, Border and many others.”
All the above movies had that “shouting from the roof top” usual Sunny which are no different from usual Sunny movies. I can not see any versatility in above mentioned movies. Sanjay Dutt is miles ahead of him as an actor as he has a range which covers almost every genre. Success or failures are another thing, but acting wise he is superior to Sunny any time. Sunny was never good at light stuff and slowly in his last phase showing tinges of this side, but not enough to erase the past from his portfolio.
Yeah really hope Sunny Deol hits the big league again. His RIGHT YA WRONG deserved better IMO and am sure YPD will get very close to 50 crores which would just be wonderful.
seems YPD is doing well after all…
the deols were on the verge of extinction and had been nearly completely phased out by newer/ pre existing talent..
maybe now they have been forced out of the “chalta hai” attitude and come up with a winner..
anyhow, talking about deols— any1 having gadar and border esp on a single screen, cannot take sunny deol lightly.
i know gadar as a film had certain socio-political jingoism which makes it unpalatable to some, but leaving that aside and just looking at his performance–
i know many of those with “refined taste” wont agree,, but his performance was an unmistakably potent one, ant not only in action (& shouting)
even now, given the correct role eg RKSantoshi, he can strike the box-office….
finally, i cannot believe that im mulling over whether to actually watch YPD on the nearby multiplex–where this is the only indian film being shown in the last month or so..
Go for it alex adams. The first half is pretty annoying (songs and few scenes excluded) but my god does the second half start to finish make up for it.
the last two bollywood movies i have seen are action replay and 30maar khan.
I need all the courage to venture into a dark hall again soon.
but seems the good reports on YPD are unanimous—so might as well catch it, just to contribute to the “save the deol” campaign!
Yamla Pagla Deewana had a drop in collections on Saturday as single screens across the country could not keep up with the pace set on Friday. The single screens fell around 25% while multiplexes had smaller drops.
The film collected 6.50 crore nett on Saturday as per early estimates which takes the films two day total to 14.25-14.50 crore nett.
Sunday will be very important for the film as it will need to better Friday figures if it is to have any real chance of holding up well on the weekdays.
hmm fall is around 19% according to Indore, in my opinion the match between india vs sa has had a huge effect on YPD for the evening and the night shows. Sunday will be stable around with 7.5, with weekend around 21-22cr. Monday will be the acid test, in my opinion the wom in the SS will save the film big time, will be around 3.5-4, and a first week to around 30cr, if the film can end at 35-40 it is a sure shot hit.
The next matches are on 18,21, 23( so expect the falls to range from 15-20% in the evening and the night shows)
Arjun was in 1985 a massive hit and critically acclaimed too. This was followed by number of hit series include Paap Ki Duniya in 1988, Tridev in 1989, Chaalbaaz in 1989, Vishwatma, Vardi and Ghayal. He later gave a bunch of above average successful movies including Joshiley, Sultnat, Sohni Mahiwal and Samundar. He was highly appreciated for his performance in the film Dacait.
He gave major hits during the 1990’s like Narsimha in 1991, Lootere in 1993, Damini in 1993 and we all know about Darr and politics associated with it.
He gave five huge and mega hits continuously in the mid nineties titled Jeet in 1996, Ghatak in 1996, Ajay in 1996, Ziddi in 1997 and overwhelmed Border same year. Gadar breaks all previous records and his performance in Farz(2001) and The Hero was surely appreciated.
Now RK as showman, producer, film maker, director and studio owner could be consider as most successful star son but most certainly not as an actor. Chocolate boy Rishi (a very good actor) again was never tested and so can’t be called versatile. Sanjay v/s Sunny seem to be full of personal prejudices and personal choices rather than merit. Barring Vaastav & Munnabhai series I hardly found him as a good actor in even Naam, Sadak & Khalnayak. Naam & Sadak were most certainly well written and well directed movies but Sanjay was just an adequate.
Let’s also not forget Sunny’s directorial skill too. His effort as a director was received positive responses and highly appreciated in Dillagi.
As a salman fan JEET is up there with one my favs. Sunny smashed it in that film. In the film and after the film only Sunny lingers in the mind. A great great performance by Sunny.
I’ll never forget that scene when he comes to ask Karishmas hand in marriage and she rejects him. Sunny in that one scene just killed it. The guy is a powerhouse of talent.
YPD is nothing special but Sunny’s charm really is something special. YPD is sunny’s DABANGG
I already mentioned Arjun. Between this and Paap ki Duniya there were three years! Chaalbaaz was a Sridevi deal with Sunny doing one of the male leads. The film did just about decently. Vishwatma actually was a disappointment at the time. Vardi again hardly did anything. Between Betaab in ’83 and Arjun in ’85 Sunny had three failures in Manzil Manzil, Sunny, Sohni Mahiwal. After Arjun he had Zabardast, Saveray wali Gadi, Saltanat, Samundar, the much hyped Dacait, the much hyped Yateem, Inteqaam… all failures. Then he finally had Paap ki Duniya which was no Arjun or Ghayal though successful but he followed this up with Ram Avtar, Nigahein (though again a Sridevi film), Majboor, Vardi, Joshilay, all either duds or some that barely scraped by, finally Tridev, Chaalbaaz (again this did ok), then again a couple of failures including Krodh. Ghayal was definitely a reset for him but he had again a much hyped film Narasimha that didn’t work but also Yodha, the very hyped Vishwatma which too didn’t work, Gunaah, a couple of others. Lootere in ’93 did decently and of course Darr earlier did very well though this was a total SRK show, Sunny was even sidelined in terms of the footage! Think about it — would Yash Chopra sideline Sunny if he thought the latter were commercially more important than SRK?! The amazing thing is that with just Deewana (Baazigar released only a month before Darr) Yash was already giving the palm to SRK. Of course the role was earlier meant for Aamir who also was getting a better deal than Sunny! after this you again have a number of failures all the way upto Border in ’97 though a few here like Jeet (which had Salman too) and Ghatak did relatively better (but still not hits in any reasonable sense of the term). Between Border and Gadar in 2001 again very many failures though again one or two probably scraped through. If you look at Sunny’s entire career the very solid hits are really just a handful. What happens is that even the average/above average stuff is liberally called a hit and the list is inflated but even with this there are very many very lean periods. Sunny was never in the position that Dutt was in the late 80s and early 90s when he made a serious run for the top spot with Sadak, Saajan and Khalnayak to follow (Ghai was the biggest at that time) though of course before the last of these released his jail problems began and he got derailed. Given that Sunny was a success with his very first film his ratio beyond this is not a very pretty one at all.
On Rishi I think he did more in Bobby or for that matter MNJ than Sunny did in his entire career. And his act in AAA remains one of the brilliant comic ones of Indian cinema. He lived through the wrong age but he still did enough to reveal his talent from MNJ through Ek Chadar Maili Si. His talent was definitely wasted in some ways.
On Sunny’s directorial skills the best I can say here is that these were no worse than his acting skills!
Bobby was so much hyped due to Dimple and her short skirt and Bettab was most certainly not less than Bobby.
If his act in AAA remains one of the brilliant comic act then there is nothing much to talk about entire Indian cinema history but fortunately there is. So simply put, that observation is untrue and fortunately a singular perspective. Had that been true he would have been casted in many similar roll.
Sunny used to be favorite with Rajkumar Santoshi (Ghaayal, Ghattak and Damini) and J.P. Dutta (Yateem, Boader & Khastriya) and that was not just an accident or coincident.
That proves Bettab was mega hit even though it did not have any sensational news/hype (Dimple was going to marry then superstar Rajesh khanna) advantage. It proves that Sunny carried that movie on his shoulder. That proves that Sunny & Rishi both are good actors. Unlike many other star sons including Dutt (Rocky) they proved their mettle from their first movie.
“Apart from this also a lot of factors like piracy, internet, exposure to international movies, rise in television and lot of other entertainment factors, which basically needs consideration while comparing two stars of different generation.”
lol hillarious
arguments are can be manufactured similarly and these are not fair
counterview:
similarly what is the population of india now and what is the size of market
was there multiplexes in those time … price of tickets are hugely inflated
unlike in past only few % of movie going audiences 15to 20%? watch movies but these have the money and thanks to multiplexes and inflated ticket prices these alone contribute 75-80% of revenues which alone counters piracy
these other sources of entertainment ( particularly media) which now gives huge and huge exposure to any movie particularly in first week and similary word of mouth for any good movie catch hugely
and thanks to these other sources now movie makes extra bucks thanks to satelite rights and merchandise tie up’s which had made the life very easy of producers unlike in past where these producers have to suffer alot
nowadays no producers loses money certainly not for any big films
“and thanks to these other sources now movie makes extra bucks thanks to satelite rights and merchandise tie up’s which had made the life very easy of producers unlike in past where these producers have to suffer alot”
But will u add up all these figures to call MNIK a all time block buster?
“nowadays no producers loses money certainly not for any big films”
right…market has grown, multiplexes have come…actors are charging huge money but the verdict for a movie still depends upon distributor share. u will say Big B had this much of hits this number of super hits but based on what??? distributor share…but u will then not add up all these other sources to declare a movie hit for current stars…
what’s the use then…”nowadays no producers loses money certainly not for any big films”…that means current stars don’t have any flops according to u…go for adding overseas, sate light rights all these things for current star and give verdict…u will see the power of stars of today..
“these other sources of entertainment ( particularly media) which now gives huge and huge exposure to any movie particularly in first week”
lol…but don’t u think movies sink faster due to this…recent example TMK…in 70′s i can understand u don’t know about the movie until u suffer ur self…but now a days..reviews and twitter saves our money and time…
“inflated ticket prices these alone contribute 75-80% of revenues which alone counters piracy”
1980s
1980 Amol Palekar – Gol Maal as Ram/Laxman Prasad Dasharath Prasad Sharma
Amitabh Bachchan – Kaala Patthar as Vijay Pal Singh
Amitabh Bachchan – Mr. Natwarlal as Natwarlal
Rajesh Khanna – Amardeep as Raja / Sonu
Rishi Kapoor – Sargam as Raju
1981 Naseeruddin Shah – Aakrosh as Bhaskar Kulkarni
Amitabh Bachchan – Dostana as Vijay Varma
Raj Babbar – Insaaf Ka Tarazu as Ramesh R. Gupta
Rajesh Khanna – Thodisi Bewafaii as Arun Kumar Choudhary
Shatrughan Sinha – Dostana as Ravi Kapoor
Vinod Khanna – Qurbani as Amar
1982 Naseeruddin Shah – Chakra as Looka
Amitabh Bachchan – Lawaaris as Heera
Amitabh Bachchan – Silsila as Amit Malhotra
Kamal Haasan – Ek Duuje Ke Liye as S. Vasudevan ‘Vasu’
Rajesh Khanna – Dard as Deepak Srivastav / Vikas
1983 Dilip Kumar – Shakti as DCP Ashwini Kumar
Amitabh Bachchan – Bemisal as Dr. Sudhir Roy / Adhir Roy, Namak Halaal as Arjun Singh, Shakti as Vijay Kumar
Naseeruddin Shah – Bazaar as Salim
Rishi Kapoor – Prem Rog as Devdhar ‘Dev’
Sanjeev Kumar – Angoor as Ashok R. Tilak
1984 Naseeruddin Shah – Masoom as D.K. Malhotra
Kamal Haasan – Sadma as K. Somprakash ‘Somu’
Om Puri – Ardh Satya as Sub-inspector Anant Velankar
Rajesh Khanna – Avtaar as Avtaar Krishen
Sunny Deol – Betaab as Sunny Kapoor
1985 Anupam Kher – Saaransh as B.V. Pradhan
Amitabh Bachchan – Sharaabi as Vicky Kapoor
Dilip Kumar – Mashaal as Vinod Kumar
Naseeruddin Shah – Sparsh as Anirudh Parmar
Raj Babbar – Aaj Ki Awaaz as Prof. Prabhat Kumar Varma
1986 Kamal Haasan – Saagar as Raja
Amitabh Bachchan – Mard as Raju Singh
Anil Kapoor – Meri Jung as Arun Verma
Kumar Gaurav – Janam as Rahul
Rishi Kapoor – Tawaif as Dawood Mohammed Ali Khan Yusuf Zahi
1987 – No award
1988 – No award
these where popular awards
do u know the reason
a guy called amitabh bachchan was banned by media for close to 13 years where most of his biggies where labelled as flops by same quarters
what happened?
even after 40 years he is going strong and around and same media pokes at his lives
as i said if u downgrade his acheivments they appear only bigger
and ya the term badshah khan was coined in the film industry first by him only ( khuda gawah ) , the original pathan of reel life
in earlier time they don’t had the cushion so there was no safety and moviemaking was comparitively difficult
in hollywood or western cinema no one takes into account distributors share and even that parameter all together is not correct that to when indian box office is hardly transparent
heck even record of underworld distributing the movie through proxies have come in recent time
do u know their share …it just don’t go together by any portal
lol of things are undeclared to evade taxes
slowly many of the producers slowly themselves are distributing the film
“that means current stars don’t have any flops according to u…go for adding overseas, sate light rights all these things for current star and give verdict…u will see the power of stars of today.”
lol is there any consistent verdict first
answer is no
even what these trade analyst say they themselves change their verdict in their annual product
what makes a film hit or flop is his budget and it will always remain a big factor
“But will u add up all these figures to call MNIK a all time block buster?”
no :
fox still lost close to 20 cr on MNIK isn’t
as i told its producers who never lose money on biggies … and talking about verdict it itself is debatable under indian box office scenario
“lol…but don’t u think movies sink faster due to this…recent example TMK…in 70′s i can understand u don’t know about the movie until u suffer ur self…but now a days..reviews and twitter saves our money and time…”
again argument itself is not compleate
was there a big mutiplex crowd in 70′s who used to go by reviews
heck even films like i hate love stories, dostana etc where never ever been sucess ful in 70′s and so do films made for urban audiences
dude: superstardom is all about opening the movie and its a fact today thanks to big media exposure its pretty easy to create big buzz and open the movie hugely to recover the costs unlike in past where risk where more
sustainablity depends on trending and wom and most of the good movies trend well today despite of their opening and so did movies of past
“as i said if u downgrade his acheivments they appear only bigger”—agree!
thats the problem with “spin” of all types.
If there was a manual for spin doctors–any exaggerated under or over play gets caught out..
so the bottomline is —to “spin” in a subtle extent not to go overboard…
thats applicable for the likes of bachchan (sr only), sachin and arrahman—the more u try to prject them small(er), the more foolish one looks..
film has picked up over big time, 20-30% on sunday, monday according to reports is decent will make around 4cr max on monday. Tuesday there will be dip in collections cause of the match. Set to be 22-23weekend and 30cr first week
Power I am visiting but 2 busy to come on SB. 2 much uni work on. Don’t worry when READY releases I’ll be everywhere promoting it lol bhai is hopefully gonna deliver again.
Yamla Pagla Deewana had a good weekend of around 22 crore nett as per early estimates. The weekend is above expectations as prior to release most would have expected a 15-20 crore figure but considering its first day business the film should have finished with a 24-25 crore nett weekend.
The approx daily breakdowns were 7.75 crore nett on Friday, 6.25 crore nett on Saturday and 8 crore nett on Sunday. The film has done extraordinary in Punjab smashing all records in the state and other parts of North India were also very good as well as Gujarat, CP Berar, CI and Rajasthan
The poor performance has come in Mumbai city, Maharashtra and South where collections remained low throughout the weekend. Multiplex numbers outside Delhi/UP and East Punjab are also not impressive and the film has collected well on the basis of big single screen business.
Very good numbers, let’s see how it fares in the weekdays.
& guys anybody who is old enough to remember the 80′s will know what bachchan was all about. No amount of figures & data can capture what he was in the 80′s, I can’t see anyone else even coming close to that level of super stardom.
Dharamendra is obviously the second biggest star of all time without any doubt when it comes to box-office & longevity.
I wouldn’t agree with Sunny being wooden, he is great in his niche(even if it isn’t too broad) & is practically unbeatable. Just a matter of some good projects & he will be back in the reckoning.
Sanjay Dutt is himself to blame for falling well short of what he could really had been, what a shame !
to me, both sunny and sanjay dutt have relatively underperfomed compared to their potential…
Both are (were) capable of much more.
Sunny-betaab, ghayal, ghatak, damini, border, and last but not the least gadar…
this proves his potential beyond doubt alhough his range was without doubt a bit limited, but in his genres, he was untouchable.
sanju dutts range is bit more varied.
I know people like(d) him most for munnnabhai series or for the underworld vaatav type films, i personally found him best in roles where he protrayed his vulnerability.
(maybe im forgetting a few here) I found him best in naam, khalnayak, mission kashmir and kaante but the best was naam….
Anyhow, i personally always have this stupid idea (still) of heroes looking like heroes—i still prefer the “conventional”bachchan/ vinod khanna/ dharmendra (physical) persona and find these two fitting that (physically) more than the five feet odd tall slender khans, imrans and ranbirs….
pity, one due to his repeated visits to the jail and the other due to attitude/back problems, have not really done much more…
Dharmendra is not the second biggest star but the the biggest star of all time .Only Dharmendra has record of giving more than 100 successful films including more than 50 golden jubilees.Any other bollywood star is nowhere to Dharmendra.But the fact is that he never got much hype also never won any award during his successful loong run in the industry despite of fact that he was most versatile than his contemporaries like Amitabh bachchan,Rajesh Khanna,jeetendra and others
By the way Amitabh is the second biggest star having around 70 successful movies,third is Jeetendra with 50.
Actors of present time stands nowhere to these stars but yet there are some great actors like Sunny DEol,Amir Khan,Ajay Devgn.
But Dharmendra is best and the proof is his latest movie YPD which is already a hit may gross more in upcoming days.No Other actor can claim to equally successful as Dharmendra even at age of 75 years.
He is yet to get his due from the industry.
On the heels of the new sun sign, may be there is another planet that we dont know about where the above is true. On mother earth, this is stercus tauri.
No offence to any1 but am glad the bachans (all of em won’t be coming to iffa). I enjoyed iffa last year and excited to watch it again after the news above.
Have you read the article, Satyam? As is usual with TOI and other tabloids, the body of the article has nothing to do with the headline. In fact, Salman is not even mentioned in the article, which is all about the disagreements between AB and IIFA, all according to an unnamed and loquacious “source.”
haven’t read this but the Mumbai Mirror piece mentioned him and suggested Bachchan was upset because he had been asked to host it. They also add that he was equally upset that the show had been held in SL without him.
I saw YPD yesterday … and have to say it is an enjoyable movie especially in the second half. I didn’t mind Apne either but this one is better overall. The first half kind of drags a bit but I am glad they went down the route of humour and entertainment then a soppy weepy drama.
Sunny and Bobby were well suited to comedy in this one. I liked how they poked fun at each other. Well worth a watch, maybe not in the cinema (though must say if you are to watch in theatre watch it with a Punjab crowd and soon) – must be doing well cos it was full house for 2 shows running in my local which is a surprise. All the audience were well into it. The post interval portions when Bobby/Sunny go to Punjab and the following situations that unfold are realy funny.
Yamla Pagla Deewana had a good Monday as the film was steady at most places. The early estimate for business on Monday is 3.75 crore nett approx. The week seems to be heading for the 34-35 crore nett mark.
North India and single screens in CP Berar, CI and Rajasthan are very good and set for a good run. Other places are also steady but collections are on the lower steady.
Punjab is just mind-boggling. A theatre like Fun Amritsar did 3.75 lakhs on Friday which was a record and grossed an unbelievable 2.60 lakhs on Monday, another record.
With Wanted, Dabang and now YPD its nice to see the Indian mass heros coming back. I have always thought that Salman Khan, Sanjay Dutt, and Sunny Deol have always been heros for the masses and have contended that they have a just as large a fan base as an Aamir or SRK in India. Thats why the masses always lovingly refer to them as Salman Bhai, Sanju Baba, or Sunny Paji. These guys have done too many movies as favors for friends and relatives. Fans of these three know when they do a worthwhile project their fans will turn out. Congrats to Sunny and Salman, hopefully Sunju can also get back with a solid hit like Salman and Sunny.
I remember back after Saajan and thru Khal Nayak and even Aatish there was a craze for Sanju, everyone starting growing there hair long like him. What might have been had he not went to prison. Similar story with Sunny in that his continued back problems, his “Jatt” attitude toward many film makers, and trying to get Bobby’s career going limited him from reaching his full potential. I still give these guys credit for making good films that the masses connected with and have lasted in the industry for more than two decades. I think someone mentioned in one of the comments that i much prefer these guys as heros as opposed to the smaller chocalate faced lover boys
Actually the multiplex phenomena killed the “mass hero” thingy.
Salman reinvented himself & somehow staged a great comeback. He probably is in the best phase of his career now.
Sunny I hope can stage a comeback with YPD & get things going.
Sanju is in a much better position than Sunny but he needs some good projects in order to strike back, it’s pretty dry post Shootout At Lokhandwala barring an odd All The Best . Gotta shed that fat as well, it’s amazing that how this guy who started the fitness revolution looks oddly fat & paunchy in most of his recent movies
Generally I m not against remakes but please leave this one..
Chupke Chupke is my most fav comedy movie..must have seen this one more than 20 times…
If they want to …I will suggest Raju Hirani is the only suitable person right now to direct it..apart from that Aamir for Dharam paji’s role, Sharman in Big B’s role and Boman for Om Praksh’s role…
It would have to be changed a little to suit the changing times.
In some ways this has not aged well.
I tried showing it to my kids the other day and they couldnt quite find it funny, tho it remains a gem for me.
It remains one of the great films of Hindi cinema.. one could easily watch it once a week.. the problem with this story is it’s hard to believe Bobby Deol could be given the major part here and even if more parity were introduced between Dharam’s and Bachchan’s parts it would still be very poor with Deol handling half of it. Presumably Bachchan would have the Om Prakash role. Frankly this sounds like a royal disaster. Gems like CC shouldn’t be touched and I certainly hope the Bachchans have no part of it.
The one thing I can’t fathom is why are we so repentant about the masala films we make? Why do we think that the global audience won’t accept it? Why do films that project Hindustani culture or family values or the eternal lost-and-found drama or the story of a disgraced hero who wins against all odds in the end, looked down upon? The truth is masala films or escapist cinema call the shots and remain the first choice of moviegoers even today.
A few weeks ago, I had pointed out that desi cinema can never go out of vogue. It ruled in the 1970s and 1980s and continues to rule to this date. The response to YAMLA PAGLA DEEWANA reiterates this fact. The film, starring the three Deols, has been embraced warmly by the single screen junta, especially in North India. The multiplexes haven’t showed the same enthusiasm that it showered on DABANGG or GOLMAAL 3, but the numbers are much, much better than the recent Sunny and Bobby starrers at urban centres.
Now let’s look at the economics of YAMLA PAGLA DEEWANA. The cost of YAMLA PAGLA DEEWANA is approx. Rs. 25 cr [includes Print & Advertising expenses], while the producers have recovered close to Rs. 40 cr from sale of India theatrical rights [Rs. 24 cr] and Satellite Rights [Rs. 16 cr]. The producers have already booked a neat profit of almost Rs. 15 cr [yes, you read it right] and the onus now falls on the distributors to recover their investment.
The North India distributors are expected to reap good profits, while the Mumbai territory [being distributed by producer Nitin Manmohan himself] may also recover a decent sum at the end of the day, primarily due to the strong business in Gujarat.
YAMLA PAGLA DEEWANA is performing the best – no prizes for guessing – in Punjab, Delhi-U.P. and Rajasthan, followed by the single screens in Gujarat, C.P. and C.I. circuits. The business, especially in Punjab, is outstanding and as predicted by this writer, will set new benchmarks in days to come. Who knows, like Eid is monopolized by Salman and Christmas by Aamir, Lohri may well be monopolized by the Deols in the future. Right?
Whatever detractors may say about Boxofficeindia, but the fact is this is much better and far ahead of every other source as far as indian box office reporting is concerned. At one point of time (a long long ago as they say dada parada ke jamane mein) IBOS used to compete with BOI. But see what a joke IBOS is today in comparison to BOI. Some of the self proclaimed trade gurus have vanished. But BOI is still doing the job better than anybody else.
Yes BOI is good, but neutral only in parts and for selects. Its like Andho mein KANA raja. Their blunders exposed to fullest during Golmaal-3 reporting when almost all of their reported figures proved horribly wrong. I mean how one cab report 4 crore on first day when actuals are 8+ crore ?? I hope one fine day we have one fair boxoffice site with no manipulations and agenda at all.
Yamla Pagla Deewana was steady on Tuesday with around 3.25 crore nett business. The total after five days is in the 29.50-29.75 crore nett region and the film will finish the week with 35 crore nett approx.
The approx billings in five days are 9 crore in Mumbai, 8 crore in Delhi/UP and 4.75 crore in East Punjab.
The Punjab belt of East Punjab circuit is seeing records smashed on a daily basis. Monday and Tuesday has seen Amritsar collect more than Gurgaon (biggest centre of East Punjab circuit) when normally a film collects just 20% of Gurgaon in Amritsar.
January 13, 2011 at 11:24 PM
Yamla Pagla Deewana Has Good Advance In The North
Thursday 13th January 2011 12.00 IST
Boxofficeindia.Com Trade Network
The advance booking counters of Yamla Pagla Deewana opened yesterday (Wednesday) at multiplexes and the response was good in the North and average elsewhere. This was expected as the the film has a very Northern flavour and the Deols are also hugely popular in the area.
Some centres in Punjab were outstanding. Wave Ludhiana saw 1100 tickets sold out of 2650 for Friday and 1900 tickets were sold for the weekend. All on first day of advance. The figures are comparable to Dabangg and Tees Maar Khan at the theatre.
East Punjab could see huge day one collections as the Punjab state centres are going to be extraordinary going by advance but Gurgaon and Faridabad will also have contribute well if the whole circuit total is to be very big.
Delhi/UP also saw a good advance with some theatres being very good.
January 14, 2011 at 6:48 AM
Chalo, a least Sunny can heave a sigh of relief..
He can still guarantee an initial with the right role and good promotion.
January 14, 2011 at 10:39 AM
Sunny doesnt heave a sigh of relief.
He screams a sigh of relief!
January 14, 2011 at 8:18 AM
Yamla Pagla Deewana Opening: Punjab Bumper All India Good Average
Friday 14th January 2011 11.30 IST
Boxofficeindia.Com Trade Network
The opening of Yamla Pagla Deewana ranged from 30-100% depending on location. Punjab was by far the best with cities like Amritsar, Jalandhar, Chandigarh and Ludhiana recording full houses. The collections at cinemas in these places are likely to be records for day one. But on the other hand there was Mumbai city and South which had just 30-35% collections and will need good word of mouth to pick up.
Delhi/UP and Haryana was best after Punjab with a 60-70% opening, other places were in the 40-50% range. On an all India basis its a Good/Average opening. Overall the film will have to pick up in Mumbai city so the collections look healthy as Mumbai has a large contribution to the all India tally.
January 14, 2011 at 8:18 AM
“The opening of Yamla Pagla Deewana ranged from 30-100% depending on location.”
Now that’s what they call a spread..!
January 14, 2011 at 8:25 AM
LOL!
January 14, 2011 at 8:19 AM
Yamla Pagla Deewana Scores Heavily At Single Screens
Friday 14th January 2011 16.30 IST
Boxofficeindia.Com Trade Network
Yamla Pagla Deewana has opened extremely well at single screen across the country. In Delhi/UP, East Punjab and Rajasthan single screens are huge with some screens even going over capacity. In Punjab and Lucknow, the posters of Dharmendra and Sunny Deol were garlanded by their fans while in CP Berar the prints were garlanded by their fans, the other star to whom this has happened to over the past few years is Salman Khan.
Even at other places single screens are strong with 60-75% collections but the problem for the film is multiplex business outside East Punjab and Delhi/UP. In these circuits multiplex business is 70-100% depending on location but multiplexes outside these circuits are in the 30-50% range for the first few shows.
A pick up in multiplexes outside Delhi/UP and East Punjab will give Yamla Pagla Deewana a very healthy weekend.
January 14, 2011 at 8:21 AM
BOI should for a change be honest and just say this film has no appeal outside E Punjab (a negligible territory even if BOI seem to be quite partial to it) and Delhi-UP where I doubt it will do well if it doesn’t outside Delhi. But this is an old BOI trick. Focus heavily on E Punjab as if it’s the Bombay territory and then pretend the film is SHolay there! This has been their modus operandi with the Deols!
don’t have anything against the film. Who could begrudge the Deol brothers success of any sort?!
January 14, 2011 at 9:32 AM
Off Topic
Bolly concert was value for money, say organisers
January 14 2011 at 08:39am
By Latoya Newman
THE organizers of this past weekend’s Bollywood concert in Durban have denied trying to dupe the public into attending a semi-ANC mouth-off as opposed to a the promised Pro20 cricket match-cum-Ntini-send-off-cum-Bolly extravaganza.
There has been a mass public outcry following the event with Durbanites seemingly hot under the collar at what they view to have been a politically ambushed show.
Some of the comments that were SMS’d to the Daily News Backchat line, a facility for the paper’s readers to share their views on issues, included:
*Why was the Bollywood show after the Pro20 match used as a political platform on Sunday? My family of four paid a total of R1 800 to listen to politicians making inane speeches! To boot, one politician referred to the main star, Shah Rukh Khan, as Farouk Khan!
*New Age promotions duped 50 000 people who paid enormous money for the Bollywood concert to further their own political ambitions!
*… The two compères were amateurish, almost childish. Not as much dancing and singing as was expected… with Kapoor doing his best to promote a certain political party. With municipal elections around the bend, maybe this was what it was really about.
*The concert after the cricket was shocking, absolute s***. Too much talking. The presenters did not know how to interact with the audience. Not a professional show.
In the Daily News Letters column, Ashnee Jacobs from Phoenix wrote: “… To tag it as a 150 years Indian arrival celebration was an insult… Up to the Pro20 cricket match, the ANC earned the wrath of the crowd when they started dishing out political awards. I could hear the people asking ‘What about Monty Naicker, JN Singh and Mr. A Rajbansi?’… there were preliminaries lasting about one and a half hours, tinged with party politics and the most lackluster Bollywood concert ever… At one stage the MC asked the crowd “are you enjoying the show?”and the crowd responded, “No”…
Tsholo Moraba, Event Media and PR Spokesperson, said the concert was not a political attempt to win votes, adding that “government and not any party” was represented. In response to comments that New Age had duped people to advance a political agenda, he said New Age was the title sponsor for the event, “as part of their commitment to further the sport of Cricket…”.
Responding to comments that there was too much talking, too little music, Moraba said the event was a themed celebration of sport, culture and history between two nations. “The public was made aware of this and it was communicated throughout the night that is what this was about and not just a vain concert of no consequence.”
Here are the questions put to Moraba and his related answers:
Q: What response can you offer people who feel they were duped into attending an event largely aimed at promoting the ANC? Do you feel this is a fair comment on the concert? Was there a need for so many political speeches on the programme?
Moraba: “The inaugural T20 Friendship Cup between South Africa and India forms part of the multinational celebrations celebrating the arrival of Indians to South Africa 150 years ago. Many such commemorations were held during the course of 2010 by various bodies in KwaZulu-Natal. This one, The New Age Friendship Celebration was a celebration through Cricket and Bollywood entertainment.
“The celebration not only looks at the past relations between South Africa and India, but serves as a platform and catalyst to build deeper and wider relations between South Africa and India. In light of this, we see I as a good thing that “government” endorsed the event from a diplomatic perspective by the president of the country, an ‘Arts and Culture’ perspective by Minister of ‘Arts and Culture’.
“By no means was this a political attempt to win votes for any elections on the part of government. It is very important to note that “Government’ was present and represented, and ‘not’ any party.
“From our understanding, in the president’s address he commended the efforts of the organisers and encouraged deeper relations between India and South Africa and the sharing of cultures.
“Therefore, it is not a fair statement at all to call this a political concert, as it was not. As too in the 2010 World Cup Opening was not considered a Party Political affair, but as a State affair.
“Mentions of any party by the ‘Indian First Decedents’ speakers, whom we allowed room to share their experience as Indians in South Africa over the past 150 years, in their own words, are certainly not the views and values of the organisers. As organisers, we did not influence them or have any part in what they wanted to say. They spoke as members of the Indian community and in their own private capacity.”
Q: In your opinion, did people get their money’s worth in terms of the money paid for tickets versus the quality of the comperes and the amount of entertainment that was on offer?
Moraba: “The tickets ranged from R100 to R350 for a full day of Cricket and Bollywood entertainment on the same ticket. The entertainment included some of Bollywood’s leading performers: Shahrukh Khan, Anil Kapoor, Malaika Aroura, Priyanka and Shahid Kapoor to name but a few, as well the South African performers: Locnville, Drum Café and First Project. We would call that good value for money.
“The programme was holistic and covered what sports lovers may have wanted to know about their favourite cricket stars and the best Bollywood could offer. Anil Kapoor’s narrations gave context to the celebrations and told the story of two nations coming together to commemorate such an import day for both nations.
“The two compares for the evening, are well-known personalities and presenters in the country, former Miss South Africa, Claudia Henkel and Bollywood and SA TV personality, Tarina Patel. It is unfortunate to think that the audience did not enjoy the service they rendered on the night as they are professionals, and this is part of what they are famous for. We will certainly look into this.”
http://www.iol.co.za/tonight/news/local/bolly-concert-was-value-for-money-say-organisers-1.1011864
January 14, 2011 at 11:49 AM
Just came from watching ‘YPD’
second half is far better compared to 1st..
the other girl(dont know her name) whose tag line is to marry a nri cananda and ‘i love caneda’ has done wonderful job 
Sunny deol saves the day.. dharam ji and Bobby – Ok
Supporting cast which were shown as punjabi’s (2nd half) awesome performance..Kulraj is beautiful and can act
So overall loved it… It look to go good with family.. ppl should enjoy it. n no for hard nose guys
Amit Pandey
Hyd,India
PS : My parents n sisters will all are coming to visit us in Hyderabad next week.. might take them to watch it again
January 14, 2011 at 12:12 PM
I think I might try and catch this film…it looked decent in promos
January 14, 2011 at 12:38 PM
just watched it in India. A thoroughly enjoyable film and Sunny does a great job. full of laughs.
January 14, 2011 at 12:57 PM
quite a positive review from taran–the tyrant!
anyhow,seems to be having some mass appeal.
wondering if it is worth seeing in the cinema?
January 14, 2011 at 2:25 PM
Happy for Sunny. Always believed he could bounce back.
January 14, 2011 at 2:41 PM
With this opening of YPG in Punjab can we call Deols the Rajnikanths of Punjab?
And, in the same vein-
Aamir – the Rajinikanth of the discerning
Salman- Rajinikanth of single screens
SRK- Rajinikanth of ass monkeys
Amitabh- Rajinikanth of the subcontinent
And what about Rajini/
I guess we can call him the Amitabh of the South.
I guess it puts things in the right perspective.
January 14, 2011 at 2:45 PM
Abhishek – Tushar kapoor of ass Monkeys
January 14, 2011 at 2:53 PM
Not all the Deols, but Sunny. Dharm Ji is obviously past his prime and most would agree that Sunny’s best days are behind him. However, Sunny is so loved not only in Punjab but in North India and his fan base is so loyal to him as long as he is in a proper role, and frankly he hasnt done a proper Sunny role since the Hero in 2003. I’m happy for the Deols. I always think that Bollywood is a better place when my to favorite filmy familys are successfull, the Bachans and the Deols.
January 14, 2011 at 6:19 PM
Watching Dharmendra in films like Johnny Gaddar & Metro has been really uplifting. I love this particular dialog from JG: “It’s not about the age; It’s about the mileage”. Felt goosebumps while watching it unfold on screen.
January 14, 2011 at 3:01 PM
yeah..right perspective…you just spelled the word right…interpreted it wrongly…
Amitabh is way above any comparison. Period!
Next a last line…
The total BO collection of KHJJS was equivalent to the parking space revenue that ROBOT generated for cinema halls!!
January 14, 2011 at 3:23 PM
@rajen
>SRK- Rajinikanth of ass monkeys
…but…but..but..you said you weren’t an SRK fan?
January 14, 2011 at 3:24 PM
In an unrealted news
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Cyber-stone-pelters-hack-Amitabh-Bachchan-fan-website/articleshow/7284481.cms
January 14, 2011 at 11:09 PM
Top 5: ‘NOKJ’ collects Rs 20.70 cr nett in Week 1, excellent
January 15, 2011 at 2:54 AM
I didn’t like it that much..2/5. Mixed reactions in the theater, some enjoyed it while some just hated it ( guy next to me was sleeping)
Sunny was very good, Dharam paji good & Bobby was irritating as usual.
Good theater occupancy of about 80% in the late night show (multiplex in Kanpur)
I do believe Sunny still has a loyal fan hard core base in north India & who know he might be able to stage a comeback of sorts, at-least I hope so.
January 15, 2011 at 3:00 AM
Latest Update: ‘Yamla Pagla Deewana’ is fantastic in India, very good in U.K.
- By Taran Adarsh, January 15, 2011 – 13:25 IST
The Friday numbers are out! YAMLA PAGLA DEEWANA seems to have amassed a booty in India. This new film, starring the Deols, collected approx. Rs. 7.85 cr to Rs. 8 cr nett [early estimates] on its opening day. The numbers can be termed fantastic because the revenue contribution hasn’t been much from multiplexes, but from single screens mainly. The business has picked up everywhere and the Saturday numbers are expected to be better than Friday.
In U.K., YAMLA PAGLA DEEWANA collected £ 46,328 on Friday, despite bad weather. APNE had collected £ 180,124 in its opening weekend and YAMLA PAGLA DEEWANA should cross that figure.
The Friday numbers of the remaining films in U.K. are as follows:-
NO ONE KILLED JESSICA/Week 2 – £ 7,726. Total so far: £ 129,990.
SIRUTHAI [Tamil film] – £ 6,073 [new release]
TEES MAAR KHAN/Week 4 – £ 1,046. Total so far: £ 702,167
AADUKALAM [Tamil film] – £ 678 [new release]
ISI LIFE MEIN – £ 56 [new release]
January 15, 2011 at 8:23 AM
Yes, the show I went to last night here in Eng had a very good turnout and a fabulous response. Should do well here.
January 15, 2011 at 3:02 AM
http://www.boxofficeindia.com/boxnewsdetail.php?page=shownews&articleid=2437&nCat=box_office_news
BOI pretty much on the same lines, these are pretty good figures I must say!
January 15, 2011 at 5:34 AM
Yamla Pagla Deewana First Day Business
Saturday 15th December 2011 14.30 IST
Boxofficeindia.Com Trade Network
Yamla Pagla Deewana has done very well on its first day despite underperformance at multiplexes in most parts of the country. The first day business is 7.75 crore nett approx.
Mumbai/Thane – 75 lakhs
Gujarat – 90 lakhs
Saurashtra – 25 lakhs
Maharashtra – 45 lakhs
N Karnataka/Goa – 10 lakhs
Mumbai Circuit – 2.45 crore
Delhi/UP – 2 crore
East Punjab – 1.25 crore
West Bengal – 24 lakhs
Bihar – 14 lakhs
CP Berar – 40 lakhs
CI – 35 lakhs
Rajasthan – 50 lakhs
Nizam/Andhra – 25 lakhs
Mysore – 15 lakhs
Others – 11 lakhs
TOTAL – 7.84 crore
http://www.boxofficeindia.com/boxnewsdetail.php?page=shownews&articleid=2438&nCat=box_office_news
January 15, 2011 at 6:18 AM
Pretty happy for Sunny.
He had everything going for him in his career until that spat with Rajkumar Santoshi, over a stupid Bhagat Singh film which ruined everyone associated with it.
If the reviews are anything to go by, he is the show stealer again despite limited screen time compared to his brother. All he needs is an author backed role with a good director. Dont know if any of the new crop of good directors would be in a mood to cast him.
January 15, 2011 at 8:30 AM
B.O. update: ‘YPD’ starts with a bang in North, better at single screens, average at plexes
- By Taran Adarsh, January 15, 2011 – 08:11 IST
YAMLA PAGLA DEEWANA started with a bang in North India. The film is expected to set new records/history at several stations of Punjab, if one goes by the opening day trends. In fact, the opening day business should be at par with DABANGG at several stations here … The other circuits where the film has opened to an extremely favorable response include Delhi [single screens are very good; plexes started average, but showed better response in evening shows], Uttar Pradesh [ranges from excellent to good], Rajasthan [very good] … The response in Mumbai city-suburbs was strictly okay, with the film garnering a better start at single screens [75% +], but witnessed a low turnout at plexes [30% to 40%; picked up from evening show onwards] … Gujarat is good and is expected to grow on Saturday due to holiday … Circuits like C.P. Berar and C.I. have opened well too. Again, the business is divided here, better at single screens, but fair to decent at plexes … The contribution from single screens has been enormous, while plexes haven’t really contributed much.
January 15, 2011 at 8:32 AM
Taran says fay 1 is 7.85-8 crores (don’t you love that range?!). Both he and BOI are on the same page as has happened almost always in recent times (once this wasn’t true). So again both are really talking about E Punjab and Delhi/UP single screens with the film elsewhere clearly just average at best on the basis of single screens. Nonetheless if this range is the right one it is still a good number for the film. I certainly don’t mind the Deols getting a success of any sort here even if I have never quite been able to stand either brother.
January 15, 2011 at 8:36 AM
CBO – Dec 24 to 26
Thursday, 30 December , 2010, 14:33
Kamal Haasan’s Manmadhan Ambu, which opened in 19 Chennai screens has taken a good opening and is the number one. It has netted around Rs 85 lakhs in the opening weekend, but carries mixed reports.
Farah Khan-directed Tees Maar Khan is at number two and has taken a share of Rs 25.5 lakhs from 9 Chennai screens, nowhere in the league of her earlier films Main Hoon Naa and Om Shanthi Om.
In third place is Sasikumar’s Easan, which is dropping. At number four is the new Nagarjuna starrer Ragada, which took flying opening but fell badly by Sunday.
In fifth position is Chutti Chathan – in 3D – which took an average opening.
http://www.sify.com/movies/boxoffice.php?id=14959634&cid=13525926
Chennai Box Office – Dec 31 to Jan 2
Tuesday, 04 January , 2011, 11:49
Manmadhan Ambu is doing very well in the Chennai multiplexes and has netted nearly Rs 2 crore in 10 days, and is the number one. The Kamal Haasan film seems to have reached its target audience, at least in Chennai city.
Far below, in the second position, is the Sasikumar-directed Easan, which has dropped and carries mixed reports.
Holding a premiere (albeit after the release) seems to have worked for the 3D film Chutti Chathan, which has picked up in its second weekend and is at number three.
At number four is the evergreen hit Enthiran, and in fifth position is Band Baaja Baaraat, which is turning out to be a dark horse at the box office.
http://www.sify.com/movies/boxoffice.php?id=14959656&cid=13525926
January 15, 2011 at 8:37 AM
Chennai Box Office – Jan 7 to 9
Thursday, 13 January , 2011, 17:22
The first CBO of the year is not exactly rocking, thanks to lacklustre content. There was only one Tamil release, Manmadhan Ambu, and it didn’t even get proper single screens. Collections for the Kamal Haasan starrer have been disappointing. However, due to lack of competition, it is still number one.
No One Killed Jessica, starring Rani Mukerji and Vidya Balan, has taken a very good opening – especially in the multiplexes – and is at number two.
In third position, due to lack of new releases, is Sasikumar’s Easan.
At number four is the 3D film Chutti Chathan and in the last spot is Enthiran, which celebrated its 100-day run.
http://www.sify.com/movies/boxoffice.php?id=14960403&cid=13525926
January 15, 2011 at 8:38 AM
Kerala Box Office – Nov 16 to Jan 10
Wednesday, 12 January , 2011, 17:03
The Kerala box office is alive and kicking. Marykondu Oru Kunjadu is a super hit and the clear number one among the Christmas and recent releases. In 10 days, the film has taken a distributor’s share of Rs 2.65 crore, which is fantastic and almost the entire production cost of the film!
At number two is Mammootty’s Best Actor, which will cover its cost from Kerala theatricals.
In third position is Dileep’s Karaysthan, a big hit for the actor. At number four is Again Kasargode Kader Bhai, a low budget film that took an opening in main stations and is good in B and C stations.
At number five is Mohanlal’s Kandahar, which turned out to be one of his biggest flops.
http://www.sify.com/movies/boxoffice.php?id=14960298&cid=14625530
January 15, 2011 at 8:49 AM
Hit Filmmakers Of Today V/s. Hit Makers Of Yesteryears
Such is the poor fate of Akshay Kumar and Katrina Kaif’s Tees Maar Khan that the first week’s occupancy of the film at Novelty Lalbagh cinema, Lucknow was a meagre 80 percent; in its second week, the footfalls nosedived so that the occupancy at the same theatre dropped to 35 percent.
In its third week, the occupancy further fell to 10 percent. In other words, ‘Tees Maar Khan‘ was not even able to recover the theatre rental in its third week, earning it the dubious distinction of going what in trade parlance is called in deficit.
Lamented a trade person, “In the good old days, names of directors like Manhoman Desai and Prakash Mehra guaranteed hits and super-hits. When you booked their films at cinemas, you were assured that they would run for 15-25 weeks. But, with today’s filmmakers, respectable collections for even 15 shows are no guarantee.”
January 15, 2011 at 11:54 AM
I think YPG’s figures are quite good. Am glad for the Deols.
January 15, 2011 at 11:57 AM
It is hard to dislike the Deols. Dharamji, obviously enjoys a great deal of affection from almost everyone. Much as one may be indifferent to Sunny, it is still hard to root against the sons as well.
Plus, their films, regardless of the quality seem more rooted.
If Salman can do a Dabaang, hope Sunny too can make a comeback with a good masala entertainer.
January 15, 2011 at 11:57 AM
Sunny is probably the best start son ever alongside Sanju baba off-course(Don’t think too highly of Hrithik & let’s not even talk about Ab’s baby dammit !)
Sunny still have few good films left in him provided he can collaborate with some really good directors & picks his stock carefully. The guy is still very popular amongst the hardcore masses even if the multiplex thronging audience consider him a box office fossil.
January 15, 2011 at 11:58 AM
your ID is most appropriate…
January 15, 2011 at 11:58 AM
Sunny is probably the best star son ever alongside Sanju baba off-course(Don’t think too highly of Hrithik & let’s not even talk about AB’s baby dammit !)
Sunny still have few good films left in him provided he can collaborate with some really good directors & picks his stock carefully. The guy is still very popular amongst the hardcore masses even if the multiplex thronging audience consider him a box office fossil.
January 15, 2011 at 2:32 PM
“Sunny is probably the best star son ever”
probably??? Sunny is the best star son ever period!!!
Father gave Sholay….Beta gave Gadar….
January 15, 2011 at 2:46 PM
A historical lesson might be in order here. Raj Kapoor was himself a star son!
What I will grant is that Dharam and Sunny are probably the only father-son team to have appeared in all time hits. Of course unlike yourself I managed to notice the other stars in Sholay but this is an interesting stat nonetheless. But Raj Kapoor remains the greatest star son never to be equaled let alone surpassed. Abhishek in this sense has the impossible task for who could equal or surpass his father?! But I’d take Rishi any day of the week over Sunny and his brother. It’s not even close. And Dutt is again vastly preferable to Sunny as far as I’m concerned, specially in his later persona. But I’ll stick with the Kapoors today — I’d easily take Shashi over Dharam’s sons and Shammi as well. Deol has always been extremely wooden as far as I’m concerned, possibly the most wooden major star in Bombay film history though later on he started screaming and persuaded many he was an actor. The one thing Sunny has bred however is a certain Punjab-centrism that his father with all his obvious roots in that soil was never limited to. Dharam was a true blue Indian bona-fide, the greatest of the non-superstars (this word once meant something). Sunny after the early 90s developed this career of ‘resentment’ which combined a certain obtuse machismo with nationalist aggression and the ‘well done Punjabi man-steak’ syndrome. Dharam was never about this somewhat nasty construct.
January 15, 2011 at 3:16 PM
I am talking about Star son here..not actors…The kind of BO success sunny has witnessed i don’t think any other star son has achieved.. he has attained super stardom (although it was for a short period)..
“I’d easily take Shashi over Dharam’s sons and Shammi as well”
Now don’t tell me this…Big B has done 7/8 films with Shashi and that will make these films multi starers with two big stars …If some one will now start counting BIg B’s multi starers u will probably prove the reverse..that how those stars were not big stars..
“The one thing Sunny has bred however is a certain Punjab-centrism”
This was only after gadar…but before that what about ghayal, ghatak, jeet, damini and lot more movies…those were not Punjab-centrism…
” Of course unlike yourself I managed to notice the other stars in Sholay”
Well i have also noticed that most of the bachhan movies had other stars also…
January 15, 2011 at 6:16 PM
Well Raj Kapoor was a star son! I was hoping I wouldn’t have to extend the history lesson but his father Prithviraj Kapoor was one of the biggest stars of the 40s. Raj Kapoor famously (or apocryphally) told his father that one day the world would know him as Raj Kapoor’s father!
Even in the 90s Sunny Deol was moving towards those anti-terrorism films and so on. In some sense Yashraj dried up the action genre but also the best talents weren’t making these films anymore. The only way out was to get jingoistic and start screaming at the drop of a hat! Sunny in any case had a rather mixed box office record after his first hit in Betaab and then Arjun in a year or so. Almost everything he did failed all the way till Ghayal in 1990 which was at the time his great relaunch film. People who question Abhishek’s box office today and which certainly seems questionable since Guru should set this 4 year period against Sunny’s even longer ones in both the 80s and 90s. After Ghayal once again he had Darr where he was played dirty by Yash Chopra and SRK ran away with the film in any case. Through the rest of the decade he more or less bumbled along barring Border, most of the other films weren’t even serious A grade efforts. He then had a huge moment in Gadar in 2001. became once more a very important star but that window was brief. Indian did fairly well, the Hero disappointed after a big opening and Sunny was more or less in perilous and constant decline after this. We know the rest. Hopefully I won’t be questioned further on all this, otherwise I can easily produce a complete list of his films from the 80s and 90s to prove this.
On Sholay let’s be serious! But yeah the film just happened to have post-Zanjeer and post-Deewar Bachchan not to mention Bachchan’s other hits in between. It just happened to have Gabbar who is possibly the greatest show stealer in cinematic history anywhere! And it had the biggest female star of the 70s in Hema Malini! Dharam was certainly a huge draw at the time but to call Sholay a Dharam outing requires frankly a level of delusion not easily matched!
On Bachchan’s multistarrers yeah it might come as some news to you since these historical missives seem to have left you untouched but every star in that Bachchan period was a box office pygmy compared to him. I am very sorry to inform all Punjab enthusiasts that big as this star was he was never in that league. He was ‘second’ to Rajendra Kumar, ‘second’ to Rajesh Khanna, ‘second’ to Bachchan’. I adore Dharam as much as anyone else (I daresay with considerably more sense and sensibility than ‘Deol’ partisans usually bring to the table) but he was never the defining star of any period. All of this is so obvious that this scarcely needs repetition unless one is willingly or otherwise historically challenged.
January 16, 2011 at 2:20 AM
“On Bachchan’s multistarrers yeah it might come as some news to you since these historical missives seem to have left you untouched but every star in that Bachchan period was a box office pygmy compared to him.”
LOL…this sentence of urs reminds me one dialogue from one sunny’s movies…Damini
“Judge Sahab pehle Chaddha sahib ne yeh kaha ki Damini pagal hai..phir who keh rahe ki woh chalak hai ..scheme kar sakti hai…jo ladki pagal hai woh chalk nahin ho sakti ya toh phir jo ladki chalak hai woh pagal nahin ho sakti..”
Previously U said Shashi Kapoor and Rishi Kapoor were biggers star sons than Sunny..now u r telling these guys were pygmy in front of Big B. LOL that makes every body including Sunny pygmy in front of Bachhan.
Then also it makes my point clearer…
1. Big B was never a huge star… that now a days his fans keep shouting. He was Shehensah among Pygmies. No other star of his time could give completion to him. That’s why he got the biggest directors of his time lined up for him.
2. Stars like SRK/Aamir/Salman/Hrithik faced multiple superstars at their time.
3. BIG B is the only superstar who could not break the record of his biggest grosser Sholay. If he was such a big star then he should have while he was in his prime.
4. His second biggest grosser was coolie and we know the reason why it did so much business.
5. Pygmies or what ever, but the truth is he always did numerous multi starers.
His biggest grosser are multistarrers with big stars of his time.
January 16, 2011 at 6:24 AM
“Previously U said Shashi Kapoor and Rishi Kapoor were biggers star sons than Sunny”
Actually I did not.. check out the original response!
On the rest once upon a time I used to argue this sort of thing endlessly on NG. But I waste my time less often these days when folks seems extraordinarily poor on the basic facts and/or are severely biased to the degree that they have their alternate versions of history.
January 16, 2011 at 8:06 AM
Bhalo_Manush, Just to correct you at one point, Amitabh biggest hit was Muqaddar Ka Sikandar, and it was all time hit and second biggest hit after sholay. MKS was monster and if sholay was not there, MKS would have been biggest hit of 70′s and 80′s.
January 16, 2011 at 10:19 AM
Jeevan, there are flat-earth folks on Bachchan all over the blogosphere.. one can argue only upto a point.. I once did it all the time but at the end of the day if you think the earth is round and you’re in a desperate argument with those who call it flat you might be the more foolish for arguing! Of course the factual claims made by Bhalo-Manush on MKS and Coolie are not surprisingly completely inaccurate. But this is a flat earth where Sunny is still ruling Bollywood but for a couple of wrong choices!
January 16, 2011 at 8:43 AM
@Jeevan…
MKS gross was much less than that of Sholay (about 60%) and even less than Coolie.
My point is 70′s was different. A lot of big stars did movies together. If they would not have then story would have been different. Some of them are being called pygmies now.
Apart from this also a lot of factors like piracy, internet, exposure to international movies, rise in television and lot of other entertainment factors, which basically needs consideration while comparing two stars of different generation.
January 15, 2011 at 4:21 PM
It’s not clear what is being compared here? Is it acting skill or look or success?
In Vidhata Dutt couldn’t even mutter his dialogs in front of Dilip kumar and except Mummabhai series he is just like a machine and that also very rusty one. In Kshatriya both were together and Sunny had an edge.
RK was never on the top or even versatile as an actor. Rishi a certainly very good actor but again not versatile or even tested in different rolls. Both were in Damini and again Sunny had an edge and An award.
Shashi again was never in quality but only after quantity and As Bhalo_Manush rightly pointed he had many films with AB.
I completely agree with Bhalo_Manush about Sunny’s versatility in Ghayal, Ghatak, Jeet, Damini, Arjun, Border and many others.
His greatest strength was he never gave any reasons to compare him with his very successful father.
January 15, 2011 at 6:05 PM
All arguments aside, Pradeep thats anunfaircharacterisation of Dutt’s career.
How can one ignore Vaastav,Naam, Sadak, Khalnayak etc where he was quite effective
I am sure, you would agree.
January 15, 2011 at 6:20 PM
Raj Kapoor was easily the most successful star son ever. At least so far. He was among the ruling trio of Bombay cinema in the 50s. Dilip was probably first among equals but these three (along with Dev) dominated. On Shashi and Rishi I prefer them as actors and stars, the uncle was hardly comparable to the nephew but he had a very winning presence. Dutt should I think seriously be reckoned with only beginning with Naam. Though I don’t rate him very highly as an actor (though he can often surprise) I think Dutt is dramatically superior to Sunny as an actor. His career best moments from Naam to Sadak to Vaastav to Munnabhai to some others easily overshadow Sunny. Just as an overall package I find him infinitely preferable.
Pradip, I am rather shell-shocked though that you consider Sunny versatile but not Rishi. The latter was one of the most natural actors ever! But again my own view has always been that Sunny can’t act to save his life.
January 16, 2011 at 12:11 AM
You gotta be joking man or you started watching movies after munnabhai !
Dutt’s efforts in Hathyar, Naam, Vaastav & Mission Kashmir were amongst the very best (not talking about boxoffice & all, just performance)
& on Sunny VS Sanjay, do u remember Kroadh where Sanju murdered Sunny ??? It was a bigger success than that turkey Kshatriya.
Rishi Kapoor to me is someone whose talent was never fully used, what a waste.
January 16, 2011 at 3:27 AM
“I completely agree with Bhalo_Manush about Sunny’s versatility in Ghayal, Ghatak, Jeet, Damini, Arjun, Border and many others.”
All the above movies had that “shouting from the roof top” usual Sunny which are no different from usual Sunny movies. I can not see any versatility in above mentioned movies. Sanjay Dutt is miles ahead of him as an actor as he has a range which covers almost every genre. Success or failures are another thing, but acting wise he is superior to Sunny any time. Sunny was never good at light stuff and slowly in his last phase showing tinges of this side, but not enough to erase the past from his portfolio.
January 15, 2011 at 12:15 PM
lol yeah Satyam, very apt indeed !!!
January 15, 2011 at 12:19 PM
I think too much time in hot tub is not good for the brain!
and, gets even worse if you get transported to the stone ages in the time machine!
January 15, 2011 at 12:24 PM
looks as if u have quite a lot of experience of being in a hot tub for longer durations j/k
January 15, 2011 at 4:37 PM
I like the movie for its zany humor. It is gross at start but once you cross the threshold a good time pass.
January 15, 2011 at 12:21 PM
All nostalgic, that’s what I felt while watching YPD.
I hope Sunny can rebuild on this, looks difficult though as he don’t have any sort of line up.
January 15, 2011 at 12:22 PM
May be after YPD, he will get some decent films.
January 15, 2011 at 12:25 PM
Amen Sir !!
January 15, 2011 at 12:32 PM
Yeah really hope Sunny Deol hits the big league again. His RIGHT YA WRONG deserved better IMO and am sure YPD will get very close to 50 crores which would just be wonderful.
January 15, 2011 at 1:09 PM
sunny deol rocks as always.
He makes ypd an entertainer!
V love u sunny!
January 15, 2011 at 4:43 PM
off topic-Abhishek invited for Florentine’s ‘shoes for star’ project
http://www.indianexpress.com/news/abhishek-invited-for-florentines-shoes-for-star-project/737942/
January 15, 2011 at 6:20 PM
yes put this up elsewhere earlier..
January 15, 2011 at 6:27 PM
seems YPD is doing well after all…
the deols were on the verge of extinction and had been nearly completely phased out by newer/ pre existing talent..
maybe now they have been forced out of the “chalta hai” attitude and come up with a winner..
anyhow, talking about deols— any1 having gadar and border esp on a single screen, cannot take sunny deol lightly.
i know gadar as a film had certain socio-political jingoism which makes it unpalatable to some, but leaving that aside and just looking at his performance–
i know many of those with “refined taste” wont agree,, but his performance was an unmistakably potent one, ant not only in action (& shouting)
even now, given the correct role eg RKSantoshi, he can strike the box-office….
finally, i cannot believe that im mulling over whether to actually watch YPD on the nearby multiplex–where this is the only indian film being shown in the last month or so..
January 15, 2011 at 9:42 PM
Go for it alex adams. The first half is pretty annoying (songs and few scenes excluded) but my god does the second half start to finish make up for it.
I’m sure you’ll like it
January 15, 2011 at 9:49 PM
the last two bollywood movies i have seen are action replay and 30maar khan.
I need all the courage to venture into a dark hall again soon.
but seems the good reports on YPD are unanimous—so might as well catch it, just to contribute to the “save the deol” campaign!
January 15, 2011 at 10:47 PM
oh no wonder alex
tmk was the worst experience I had last year in the theatre and watched AR recently. Poor tbh
January 16, 2011 at 3:20 AM
Ouch !!!!
Yamla Pagla Deewana Saturday Update
Sunrday 16th January 2011 11.30 IST
Boxofficeindia.Com Trade Network
Yamla Pagla Deewana had a drop in collections on Saturday as single screens across the country could not keep up with the pace set on Friday. The single screens fell around 25% while multiplexes had smaller drops.
The film collected 6.50 crore nett on Saturday as per early estimates which takes the films two day total to 14.25-14.50 crore nett.
Sunday will be very important for the film as it will need to better Friday figures if it is to have any real chance of holding up well on the weekdays.
http://www.boxofficeindia.com/boxnewsdetail.php?page=shownews&articleid=2439&nCat=box_office_news
January 16, 2011 at 6:20 AM
Doesn’t look good for the film. Sat is never lower than Fri for any successful film. Somewhat surprised. Thought it would stay stable.
January 16, 2011 at 7:34 AM
hmm fall is around 19% according to Indore, in my opinion the match between india vs sa has had a huge effect on YPD for the evening and the night shows. Sunday will be stable around with 7.5, with weekend around 21-22cr. Monday will be the acid test, in my opinion the wom in the SS will save the film big time, will be around 3.5-4, and a first week to around 30cr, if the film can end at 35-40 it is a sure shot hit.
The next matches are on 18,21, 23( so expect the falls to range from 15-20% in the evening and the night shows)
January 16, 2011 at 9:58 AM
Some history lesson or correction..
Arjun was in 1985 a massive hit and critically acclaimed too. This was followed by number of hit series include Paap Ki Duniya in 1988, Tridev in 1989, Chaalbaaz in 1989, Vishwatma, Vardi and Ghayal. He later gave a bunch of above average successful movies including Joshiley, Sultnat, Sohni Mahiwal and Samundar. He was highly appreciated for his performance in the film Dacait.
He gave major hits during the 1990’s like Narsimha in 1991, Lootere in 1993, Damini in 1993 and we all know about Darr and politics associated with it.
He gave five huge and mega hits continuously in the mid nineties titled Jeet in 1996, Ghatak in 1996, Ajay in 1996, Ziddi in 1997 and overwhelmed Border same year. Gadar breaks all previous records and his performance in Farz(2001) and The Hero was surely appreciated.
Now RK as showman, producer, film maker, director and studio owner could be consider as most successful star son but most certainly not as an actor. Chocolate boy Rishi (a very good actor) again was never tested and so can’t be called versatile. Sanjay v/s Sunny seem to be full of personal prejudices and personal choices rather than merit. Barring Vaastav & Munnabhai series I hardly found him as a good actor in even Naam, Sadak & Khalnayak. Naam & Sadak were most certainly well written and well directed movies but Sanjay was just an adequate.
Let’s also not forget Sunny’s directorial skill too. His effort as a director was received positive responses and highly appreciated in Dillagi.
January 16, 2011 at 10:13 AM
As a salman fan JEET is up there with one my favs. Sunny smashed it in that film. In the film and after the film only Sunny lingers in the mind. A great great performance by Sunny.
I’ll never forget that scene when he comes to ask Karishmas hand in marriage and she rejects him. Sunny in that one scene just killed it. The guy is a powerhouse of talent.
YPD is nothing special but Sunny’s charm really is something special. YPD is sunny’s DABANGG
January 16, 2011 at 10:14 AM
I already mentioned Arjun. Between this and Paap ki Duniya there were three years! Chaalbaaz was a Sridevi deal with Sunny doing one of the male leads. The film did just about decently. Vishwatma actually was a disappointment at the time. Vardi again hardly did anything. Between Betaab in ’83 and Arjun in ’85 Sunny had three failures in Manzil Manzil, Sunny, Sohni Mahiwal. After Arjun he had Zabardast, Saveray wali Gadi, Saltanat, Samundar, the much hyped Dacait, the much hyped Yateem, Inteqaam… all failures. Then he finally had Paap ki Duniya which was no Arjun or Ghayal though successful but he followed this up with Ram Avtar, Nigahein (though again a Sridevi film), Majboor, Vardi, Joshilay, all either duds or some that barely scraped by, finally Tridev, Chaalbaaz (again this did ok), then again a couple of failures including Krodh. Ghayal was definitely a reset for him but he had again a much hyped film Narasimha that didn’t work but also Yodha, the very hyped Vishwatma which too didn’t work, Gunaah, a couple of others. Lootere in ’93 did decently and of course Darr earlier did very well though this was a total SRK show, Sunny was even sidelined in terms of the footage! Think about it — would Yash Chopra sideline Sunny if he thought the latter were commercially more important than SRK?! The amazing thing is that with just Deewana (Baazigar released only a month before Darr) Yash was already giving the palm to SRK. Of course the role was earlier meant for Aamir who also was getting a better deal than Sunny! after this you again have a number of failures all the way upto Border in ’97 though a few here like Jeet (which had Salman too) and Ghatak did relatively better (but still not hits in any reasonable sense of the term). Between Border and Gadar in 2001 again very many failures though again one or two probably scraped through. If you look at Sunny’s entire career the very solid hits are really just a handful. What happens is that even the average/above average stuff is liberally called a hit and the list is inflated but even with this there are very many very lean periods. Sunny was never in the position that Dutt was in the late 80s and early 90s when he made a serious run for the top spot with Sadak, Saajan and Khalnayak to follow (Ghai was the biggest at that time) though of course before the last of these released his jail problems began and he got derailed. Given that Sunny was a success with his very first film his ratio beyond this is not a very pretty one at all.
January 16, 2011 at 10:15 AM
On Rishi I think he did more in Bobby or for that matter MNJ than Sunny did in his entire career. And his act in AAA remains one of the brilliant comic ones of Indian cinema. He lived through the wrong age but he still did enough to reveal his talent from MNJ through Ek Chadar Maili Si. His talent was definitely wasted in some ways.
On Sunny’s directorial skills the best I can say here is that these were no worse than his acting skills!
January 16, 2011 at 2:09 PM
Bobby was so much hyped due to Dimple and her short skirt and Bettab was most certainly not less than Bobby.
If his act in AAA remains one of the brilliant comic act then there is nothing much to talk about entire Indian cinema history but fortunately there is. So simply put, that observation is untrue and fortunately a singular perspective. Had that been true he would have been casted in many similar roll.
Sunny used to be favorite with Rajkumar Santoshi (Ghaayal, Ghattak and Damini) and J.P. Dutta (Yateem, Boader & Khastriya) and that was not just an accident or coincident.
January 16, 2011 at 2:12 PM
check out where Bobby is and where Betaab is:
http://ibosnetwork.com/asp/actualalltime.asp
January 16, 2011 at 5:20 PM
That proves Bettab was mega hit even though it did not have any sensational news/hype (Dimple was going to marry then superstar Rajesh khanna) advantage. It proves that Sunny carried that movie on his shoulder. That proves that Sunny & Rishi both are good actors. Unlike many other star sons including Dutt (Rocky) they proved their mettle from their first movie.
January 16, 2011 at 5:57 PM
“On Rishi I think he did more in Bobby or for that matter MNJ than Sunny did in his entire career…”
- All I can say is !!!
January 16, 2011 at 11:02 AM
Nice to see some Sunny fans appear after 10 years holiday
January 16, 2011 at 12:05 PM
dutt had his series of flops so had sunny
but the biggest irony is dutt spend the best year of his in jail( had he not been gone to jail he might have been the biggest star of 90′s)
January 16, 2011 at 1:27 PM
“Apart from this also a lot of factors like piracy, internet, exposure to international movies, rise in television and lot of other entertainment factors, which basically needs consideration while comparing two stars of different generation.”
lol hillarious
arguments are can be manufactured similarly and these are not fair
counterview:
similarly what is the population of india now and what is the size of market
was there multiplexes in those time … price of tickets are hugely inflated
unlike in past only few % of movie going audiences 15to 20%? watch movies but these have the money and thanks to multiplexes and inflated ticket prices these alone contribute 75-80% of revenues which alone counters piracy
these other sources of entertainment ( particularly media) which now gives huge and huge exposure to any movie particularly in first week and similary word of mouth for any good movie catch hugely
and thanks to these other sources now movie makes extra bucks thanks to satelite rights and merchandise tie up’s which had made the life very easy of producers unlike in past where these producers have to suffer alot
nowadays no producers loses money certainly not for any big films
January 16, 2011 at 2:48 PM
“and thanks to these other sources now movie makes extra bucks thanks to satelite rights and merchandise tie up’s which had made the life very easy of producers unlike in past where these producers have to suffer alot”
But will u add up all these figures to call MNIK a all time block buster?
“nowadays no producers loses money certainly not for any big films”
right…market has grown, multiplexes have come…actors are charging huge money but the verdict for a movie still depends upon distributor share. u will say Big B had this much of hits this number of super hits but based on what??? distributor share…but u will then not add up all these other sources to declare a movie hit for current stars…
what’s the use then…”nowadays no producers loses money certainly not for any big films”…that means current stars don’t have any flops according to u…go for adding overseas, sate light rights all these things for current star and give verdict…u will see the power of stars of today..
“these other sources of entertainment ( particularly media) which now gives huge and huge exposure to any movie particularly in first week”
lol…but don’t u think movies sink faster due to this…recent example TMK…in 70′s i can understand u don’t know about the movie until u suffer ur self…but now a days..reviews and twitter saves our money and time…
“inflated ticket prices these alone contribute 75-80% of revenues which alone counters piracy”
Ohhhhh my god …that’s a great invention….
January 16, 2011 at 1:42 PM
there is a big class divide which is apparent when a movie like vivah sells more tickets than biggies but hardly becomes a big grossers
further standard of cinema has gone down further(today bengali, marathi and malyalee cinema makes better movie than bollywood)
is there any market for alternative cinema in past
heck even in awards
in 70′s and 80′s atleast in these so called filmfare awards went to naseer and om puri most of times by excluding the popolar box office verdict
do u think this is the case now where they even have slight chance
January 16, 2011 at 1:50 PM
now coming back to amitabh after cinema :
from wikipedia:-
1980s
1980 Amol Palekar – Gol Maal as Ram/Laxman Prasad Dasharath Prasad Sharma
Amitabh Bachchan – Kaala Patthar as Vijay Pal Singh
Amitabh Bachchan – Mr. Natwarlal as Natwarlal
Rajesh Khanna – Amardeep as Raja / Sonu
Rishi Kapoor – Sargam as Raju
1981 Naseeruddin Shah – Aakrosh as Bhaskar Kulkarni
Amitabh Bachchan – Dostana as Vijay Varma
Raj Babbar – Insaaf Ka Tarazu as Ramesh R. Gupta
Rajesh Khanna – Thodisi Bewafaii as Arun Kumar Choudhary
Shatrughan Sinha – Dostana as Ravi Kapoor
Vinod Khanna – Qurbani as Amar
1982 Naseeruddin Shah – Chakra as Looka
Amitabh Bachchan – Lawaaris as Heera
Amitabh Bachchan – Silsila as Amit Malhotra
Kamal Haasan – Ek Duuje Ke Liye as S. Vasudevan ‘Vasu’
Rajesh Khanna – Dard as Deepak Srivastav / Vikas
1983 Dilip Kumar – Shakti as DCP Ashwini Kumar
Amitabh Bachchan – Bemisal as Dr. Sudhir Roy / Adhir Roy, Namak Halaal as Arjun Singh, Shakti as Vijay Kumar
Naseeruddin Shah – Bazaar as Salim
Rishi Kapoor – Prem Rog as Devdhar ‘Dev’
Sanjeev Kumar – Angoor as Ashok R. Tilak
1984 Naseeruddin Shah – Masoom as D.K. Malhotra
Kamal Haasan – Sadma as K. Somprakash ‘Somu’
Om Puri – Ardh Satya as Sub-inspector Anant Velankar
Rajesh Khanna – Avtaar as Avtaar Krishen
Sunny Deol – Betaab as Sunny Kapoor
1985 Anupam Kher – Saaransh as B.V. Pradhan
Amitabh Bachchan – Sharaabi as Vicky Kapoor
Dilip Kumar – Mashaal as Vinod Kumar
Naseeruddin Shah – Sparsh as Anirudh Parmar
Raj Babbar – Aaj Ki Awaaz as Prof. Prabhat Kumar Varma
1986 Kamal Haasan – Saagar as Raja
Amitabh Bachchan – Mard as Raju Singh
Anil Kapoor – Meri Jung as Arun Verma
Kumar Gaurav – Janam as Rahul
Rishi Kapoor – Tawaif as Dawood Mohammed Ali Khan Yusuf Zahi
1987 – No award
1988 – No award
these where popular awards
do u know the reason
a guy called amitabh bachchan was banned by media for close to 13 years where most of his biggies where labelled as flops by same quarters
what happened?
even after 40 years he is going strong and around and same media pokes at his lives
as i said if u downgrade his acheivments they appear only bigger
and ya the term badshah khan was coined in the film industry first by him only ( khuda gawah ) , the original pathan of reel life
January 16, 2011 at 1:55 PM
* these where popular awards with nominees*
the upper one is winner and rest are nominees and these where labelled popular awards and this only shows the standard of awards in india
January 16, 2011 at 2:58 PM
lol don’t know how mnik has come into arguments
first understand the context of argument
movie is made by producers not distributors
in earlier time they don’t had the cushion so there was no safety and moviemaking was comparitively difficult
in hollywood or western cinema no one takes into account distributors share and even that parameter all together is not correct that to when indian box office is hardly transparent
heck even record of underworld distributing the movie through proxies have come in recent time
do u know their share …it just don’t go together by any portal
lol of things are undeclared to evade taxes
slowly many of the producers slowly themselves are distributing the film
January 16, 2011 at 3:02 PM
“that means current stars don’t have any flops according to u…go for adding overseas, sate light rights all these things for current star and give verdict…u will see the power of stars of today.”
lol is there any consistent verdict first
answer is no
even what these trade analyst say they themselves change their verdict in their annual product
what makes a film hit or flop is his budget and it will always remain a big factor
January 16, 2011 at 3:07 PM
“inflated ticket prices these alone contribute 75-80% of revenues which alone counters piracy”
its not an invention but its a fact
if u have a new invention bookwark it under intellectual property that will help
are the prices of tickets not inflated in multiplexes
( and even that varies depending on release of biggies )
why single screens are coming to end and why multiplexes are replacing them everywhere
dude 70-80% of bollywood revenue in india is coming from multiplexes and its a fact
January 16, 2011 at 3:20 PM
“But will u add up all these figures to call MNIK a all time block buster?”
no :
fox still lost close to 20 cr on MNIK isn’t
as i told its producers who never lose money on biggies … and talking about verdict it itself is debatable under indian box office scenario
“lol…but don’t u think movies sink faster due to this…recent example TMK…in 70′s i can understand u don’t know about the movie until u suffer ur self…but now a days..reviews and twitter saves our money and time…”
again argument itself is not compleate
was there a big mutiplex crowd in 70′s who used to go by reviews
heck even films like i hate love stories, dostana etc where never ever been sucess ful in 70′s and so do films made for urban audiences
don’t know by what criteria its a sucess
January 16, 2011 at 3:25 PM
in those time
and these mutiplexes film would certainly had not been big grossers which they are enjoying
as i told lot of arguments can be manufactured on this which themselves are not fair
January 16, 2011 at 3:41 PM
dude: superstardom is all about opening the movie and its a fact today thanks to big media exposure its pretty easy to create big buzz and open the movie hugely to recover the costs unlike in past where risk where more
sustainablity depends on trending and wom and most of the good movies trend well today despite of their opening and so did movies of past
ghajini did so did 3idiots and so do dabangg
bye for now as we are going in circle
January 16, 2011 at 5:23 PM
“as i said if u downgrade his acheivments they appear only bigger”—agree!
thats the problem with “spin” of all types.
If there was a manual for spin doctors–any exaggerated under or over play gets caught out..
so the bottomline is —to “spin” in a subtle extent not to go overboard…
thats applicable for the likes of bachchan (sr only), sachin and arrahman—the more u try to prject them small(er), the more foolish one looks..
January 16, 2011 at 10:50 PM
film has picked up over big time, 20-30% on sunday, monday according to reports is decent will make around 4cr max on monday. Tuesday there will be dip in collections cause of the match. Set to be 22-23weekend and 30cr first week
January 16, 2011 at 11:01 PM
30 for first week would be fantastic
I’m hoping it hits minimum 50 for lifetime.
January 17, 2011 at 12:58 AM
if these are reliable numbers it would be a great haul for the film.
January 17, 2011 at 12:24 AM
naveed how come u arent visiting NG these days?
January 17, 2011 at 2:02 PM
Power I am visiting but 2 busy to come on SB. 2 much uni work on. Don’t worry when READY releases I’ll be everywhere promoting it lol bhai is hopefully gonna deliver again.
January 17, 2011 at 2:37 AM
Yamla Pagla Deewana Has Good Weekend
http://www.boxofficeindia.com/boxnewsdetail.php?page=shownews&articleid=2443&nCat=box_office_news
Monday 17th January 2011 12.30 IST
Boxofficeindia.Com Trade Network
Yamla Pagla Deewana had a good weekend of around 22 crore nett as per early estimates. The weekend is above expectations as prior to release most would have expected a 15-20 crore figure but considering its first day business the film should have finished with a 24-25 crore nett weekend.
The approx daily breakdowns were 7.75 crore nett on Friday, 6.25 crore nett on Saturday and 8 crore nett on Sunday. The film has done extraordinary in Punjab smashing all records in the state and other parts of North India were also very good as well as Gujarat, CP Berar, CI and Rajasthan
The poor performance has come in Mumbai city, Maharashtra and South where collections remained low throughout the weekend. Multiplex numbers outside Delhi/UP and East Punjab are also not impressive and the film has collected well on the basis of big single screen business.
January 17, 2011 at 2:50 AM
Very good numbers, let’s see how it fares in the weekdays.
& guys anybody who is old enough to remember the 80′s will know what bachchan was all about. No amount of figures & data can capture what he was in the 80′s, I can’t see anyone else even coming close to that level of super stardom.
Dharamendra is obviously the second biggest star of all time without any doubt when it comes to box-office & longevity.
I wouldn’t agree with Sunny being wooden, he is great in his niche(even if it isn’t too broad) & is practically unbeatable. Just a matter of some good projects & he will be back in the reckoning.
Sanjay Dutt is himself to blame for falling well short of what he could really had been, what a shame !
January 17, 2011 at 5:11 AM
to me, both sunny and sanjay dutt have relatively underperfomed compared to their potential…
Both are (were) capable of much more.
Sunny-betaab, ghayal, ghatak, damini, border, and last but not the least gadar…
this proves his potential beyond doubt alhough his range was without doubt a bit limited, but in his genres, he was untouchable.
sanju dutts range is bit more varied.
I know people like(d) him most for munnnabhai series or for the underworld vaatav type films, i personally found him best in roles where he protrayed his vulnerability.
(maybe im forgetting a few here) I found him best in naam, khalnayak, mission kashmir and kaante but the best was naam….
Anyhow, i personally always have this stupid idea (still) of heroes looking like heroes—i still prefer the “conventional”bachchan/ vinod khanna/ dharmendra (physical) persona and find these two fitting that (physically) more than the five feet odd tall slender khans, imrans and ranbirs….
pity, one due to his repeated visits to the jail and the other due to attitude/back problems, have not really done much more…
January 17, 2011 at 5:15 AM
Dharmendra is not the second biggest star but the the biggest star of all time .Only Dharmendra has record of giving more than 100 successful films including more than 50 golden jubilees.Any other bollywood star is nowhere to Dharmendra.But the fact is that he never got much hype also never won any award during his successful loong run in the industry despite of fact that he was most versatile than his contemporaries like Amitabh bachchan,Rajesh Khanna,jeetendra and others
By the way Amitabh is the second biggest star having around 70 successful movies,third is Jeetendra with 50.
Actors of present time stands nowhere to these stars but yet there are some great actors like Sunny DEol,Amir Khan,Ajay Devgn.
But Dharmendra is best and the proof is his latest movie YPD which is already a hit may gross more in upcoming days.No Other actor can claim to equally successful as Dharmendra even at age of 75 years.
He is yet to get his due from the industry.
January 17, 2011 at 11:34 AM
On the heels of the new sun sign, may be there is another planet that we dont know about where the above is true. On mother earth, this is stercus tauri.
January 17, 2011 at 12:04 PM
on that score not sure if you saw this second story:
http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/01/13/no-your-zodiac-sign-hasnt-changed/
January 17, 2011 at 1:59 PM
Now I am no Amitabh fanatic but what you’ve said above cannot be taken seriously, dude
January 17, 2011 at 6:33 AM
Well said Alex & I feel the same on “conventional persona” bit.
Some more updates on YPD from BOI….
Yamla Pagla Deewana Has 22.75 Crore Nett Weekend
Monday 17th January 2011 16.30 IST
Boxofficeindia.Com Trade Network
Yamla Pagla Deewana did good business over its first weekend with collections of 22.75 crore nett. The complete territorial breakdown is as follows.
Mumbai – 7.03 crore
Delhi/UP – 6.12 crore
East Punjab – 3.53 crore
West Bengal- 58 lakhs
Bihar – 47 lakhs
Assam/Orissa – 22 lakhs
CP Berar – 1.19 crore
CI – 99 lakhs
Rajasthan – 1.38 crore
Nizam – 66 lakhs
Mysore – 49 lakhs
Tamil Nadu/Kerala – 12 lakhs
ALL INDIA – 22.78 crore
January 17, 2011 at 8:02 AM
off topic
“Big B parts way with IIFA?”
http://www.rediff.com/movies/report/big-b-parts-way-with-iifa/20110117.htm
Amitabh challenges Hollywood to make Baghban
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/bollywood/news-interviews/Amitabh-challenges-Hollywood-to-make-Baghban/articleshow/7297889.cms
January 17, 2011 at 10:48 AM
“Mr Bachchan, we agree with you and hope there comes a day when Hollywood will make a film called ‘We are family’ which will be inspired by Baghban!”
Waht more can one add?
January 17, 2011 at 2:07 PM
No offence to any1 but am glad the bachans (all of em won’t be coming to iffa). I enjoyed iffa last year and excited to watch it again after the news above.
January 20, 2011 at 5:50 AM
More on the IIFA issue..
‘Big B dumped IIFA because of Sallu’
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/bollywood/news-interviews/Big-B-dumped-IIFA-because-of-Sallu/articleshow/7324379.cms
January 20, 2011 at 6:27 AM
It’s pretty safe to say that this is complete nonsense..
January 20, 2011 at 7:16 AM
Have you read the article, Satyam? As is usual with TOI and other tabloids, the body of the article has nothing to do with the headline. In fact, Salman is not even mentioned in the article, which is all about the disagreements between AB and IIFA, all according to an unnamed and loquacious “source.”
January 20, 2011 at 7:28 AM
haven’t read this but the Mumbai Mirror piece mentioned him and suggested Bachchan was upset because he had been asked to host it. They also add that he was equally upset that the show had been held in SL without him.
January 17, 2011 at 8:06 AM
I saw YPD yesterday … and have to say it is an enjoyable movie especially in the second half. I didn’t mind Apne either but this one is better overall. The first half kind of drags a bit but I am glad they went down the route of humour and entertainment then a soppy weepy drama.
Sunny and Bobby were well suited to comedy in this one. I liked how they poked fun at each other. Well worth a watch, maybe not in the cinema (though must say if you are to watch in theatre watch it with a Punjab crowd and soon) – must be doing well cos it was full house for 2 shows running in my local which is a surprise. All the audience were well into it. The post interval portions when Bobby/Sunny go to Punjab and the following situations that unfold are realy funny.
January 17, 2011 at 9:11 AM
did u saw the game ?
vidic and modric stood out.
and that shot by van der baart kissed the cross section!
January 17, 2011 at 11:16 AM
good match i thought…best chance spurs had of beating united…but united are very resilient
January 17, 2011 at 12:15 PM
i guess when rafael was sent off.. it was the key!
But vidic! got cramp.. they were there for taking!
the only thing where spurs disappoint is upfront. they deserve a better striker. otherwise its a title winning team.. imo
January 17, 2011 at 11:14 AM
I ended up disliking it.. It drags, drags and drags.
January 17, 2011 at 11:20 AM
som your a hard kid to please!
January 17, 2011 at 12:16 PM
LOL jay… that also is an understatement
January 20, 2011 at 7:44 AM
thanks Jay….looking fwd to watching this in the weekend as well as DHOBI GHAT! Caught NO ONE KILLED JESSICA finally tonight too..reviews up
January 17, 2011 at 9:57 AM
Midweek B.O.: ‘YPD’ collects Rs 22.8 cr in Weekend 1, excellent
amazing how Taran and BOI say the very same thing all the time!
January 17, 2011 at 10:05 AM
Yamla Pagla Deewana Box-Office Weekend: Rs. 240 Million!
January 18, 2011 at 2:49 AM
http://www.boxofficeindia.com/boxnewsdetail.php?page=shownews&articleid=2447&nCat=box_office_news
Tuesday 18th January 2011 12.30 IST
Yamla Pagla Deewana Has Good Monday
Boxofficeindia.Com Trade Network
Yamla Pagla Deewana had a good Monday as the film was steady at most places. The early estimate for business on Monday is 3.75 crore nett approx. The week seems to be heading for the 34-35 crore nett mark.
North India and single screens in CP Berar, CI and Rajasthan are very good and set for a good run. Other places are also steady but collections are on the lower steady.
Punjab is just mind-boggling. A theatre like Fun Amritsar did 3.75 lakhs on Friday which was a record and grossed an unbelievable 2.60 lakhs on Monday, another record.
January 18, 2011 at 7:31 AM
Though I’ve only ever been a fan of one Deol (the father) I’m glad to see this film do well.
January 18, 2011 at 3:13 AM
surprising collections 34-35cr first week is gonna be soo goood
January 18, 2011 at 10:33 AM
With Wanted, Dabang and now YPD its nice to see the Indian mass heros coming back. I have always thought that Salman Khan, Sanjay Dutt, and Sunny Deol have always been heros for the masses and have contended that they have a just as large a fan base as an Aamir or SRK in India. Thats why the masses always lovingly refer to them as Salman Bhai, Sanju Baba, or Sunny Paji. These guys have done too many movies as favors for friends and relatives. Fans of these three know when they do a worthwhile project their fans will turn out. Congrats to Sunny and Salman, hopefully Sunju can also get back with a solid hit like Salman and Sunny.
January 18, 2011 at 11:27 AM
Well Said
Hope Sanju also strikes back big time. I’ve heard Salman say that no1 could have removed sanju from the top spot Sanju did it himself (prison etc)
I’m glad sunny is back (RIGHT YA WRONG deserved better). Sunny was superb in YPD.
January 18, 2011 at 2:23 PM
I remember back after Saajan and thru Khal Nayak and even Aatish there was a craze for Sanju, everyone starting growing there hair long like him. What might have been had he not went to prison. Similar story with Sunny in that his continued back problems, his “Jatt” attitude toward many film makers, and trying to get Bobby’s career going limited him from reaching his full potential. I still give these guys credit for making good films that the masses connected with and have lasted in the industry for more than two decades. I think someone mentioned in one of the comments that i much prefer these guys as heros as opposed to the smaller chocalate faced lover boys
January 19, 2011 at 5:32 AM
Actually the multiplex phenomena killed the “mass hero” thingy.
Salman reinvented himself & somehow staged a great comeback. He probably is in the best phase of his career now.
Sunny I hope can stage a comeback with YPD & get things going.
Sanju is in a much better position than Sunny but he needs some good projects in order to strike back, it’s pretty dry post Shootout At Lokhandwala barring an odd All The Best . Gotta shed that fat as well, it’s amazing that how this guy who started the fitness revolution looks oddly fat & paunchy in most of his recent movies
January 18, 2011 at 4:32 AM
off topic..
not sure whether it is already posted or not…
“Big B in Chupke Chupke remake!”
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/bollywood/news-interviews/Big-B-in-Chupke-Chupke-remake/articleshow/7302204.cms
January 18, 2011 at 4:41 AM
Generally I m not against remakes but please leave this one..
Chupke Chupke is my most fav comedy movie..must have seen this one more than 20 times…
If they want to …I will suggest Raju Hirani is the only suitable person right now to direct it..apart from that Aamir for Dharam paji’s role, Sharman in Big B’s role and Boman for Om Praksh’s role…
January 18, 2011 at 7:30 AM
not posted but I find it hard to believe this..
January 18, 2011 at 8:30 AM
It would have to be changed a little to suit the changing times.
In some ways this has not aged well.
I tried showing it to my kids the other day and they couldnt quite find it funny, tho it remains a gem for me.
January 18, 2011 at 8:47 AM
It remains one of the great films of Hindi cinema.. one could easily watch it once a week.. the problem with this story is it’s hard to believe Bobby Deol could be given the major part here and even if more parity were introduced between Dharam’s and Bachchan’s parts it would still be very poor with Deol handling half of it. Presumably Bachchan would have the Om Prakash role. Frankly this sounds like a royal disaster. Gems like CC shouldn’t be touched and I certainly hope the Bachchans have no part of it.
January 18, 2011 at 9:39 AM
This really is the perfect example of the tragedy of dynastic thinking.
January 18, 2011 at 10:35 AM
lol..
January 18, 2011 at 11:26 AM
gr8 comment sm
January 18, 2011 at 6:18 AM
FLOP
January 19, 2011 at 2:25 AM
Business Talk With Taran Adarsh
Deol-bang!
January 19, 2011 – 08:30 IST
The one thing I can’t fathom is why are we so repentant about the masala films we make? Why do we think that the global audience won’t accept it? Why do films that project Hindustani culture or family values or the eternal lost-and-found drama or the story of a disgraced hero who wins against all odds in the end, looked down upon? The truth is masala films or escapist cinema call the shots and remain the first choice of moviegoers even today.
A few weeks ago, I had pointed out that desi cinema can never go out of vogue. It ruled in the 1970s and 1980s and continues to rule to this date. The response to YAMLA PAGLA DEEWANA reiterates this fact. The film, starring the three Deols, has been embraced warmly by the single screen junta, especially in North India. The multiplexes haven’t showed the same enthusiasm that it showered on DABANGG or GOLMAAL 3, but the numbers are much, much better than the recent Sunny and Bobby starrers at urban centres.
Now let’s look at the economics of YAMLA PAGLA DEEWANA. The cost of YAMLA PAGLA DEEWANA is approx. Rs. 25 cr [includes Print & Advertising expenses], while the producers have recovered close to Rs. 40 cr from sale of India theatrical rights [Rs. 24 cr] and Satellite Rights [Rs. 16 cr]. The producers have already booked a neat profit of almost Rs. 15 cr [yes, you read it right] and the onus now falls on the distributors to recover their investment.
The North India distributors are expected to reap good profits, while the Mumbai territory [being distributed by producer Nitin Manmohan himself] may also recover a decent sum at the end of the day, primarily due to the strong business in Gujarat.
YAMLA PAGLA DEEWANA is performing the best – no prizes for guessing – in Punjab, Delhi-U.P. and Rajasthan, followed by the single screens in Gujarat, C.P. and C.I. circuits. The business, especially in Punjab, is outstanding and as predicted by this writer, will set new benchmarks in days to come. Who knows, like Eid is monopolized by Salman and Christmas by Aamir, Lohri may well be monopolized by the Deols in the future. Right?
January 19, 2011 at 5:26 AM
Good going for deols !
January 19, 2011 at 7:52 AM
lets give Samir Karnik some credit too.. Poor guy has delivered his first success after a string of duds..
January 20, 2011 at 3:42 AM
A Fantastic Start To 2011
http://www.boxofficeindia.com/boxnewsdetail.php?page=shownews&articleid=2451&nCat=box_office_news
January 20, 2011 at 3:50 AM
Whatever detractors may say about Boxofficeindia, but the fact is this is much better and far ahead of every other source as far as indian box office reporting is concerned. At one point of time (a long long ago as they say dada parada ke jamane mein) IBOS used to compete with BOI. But see what a joke IBOS is today in comparison to BOI. Some of the self proclaimed trade gurus have vanished. But BOI is still doing the job better than anybody else.
January 20, 2011 at 4:44 AM
Yes BOI is good, but neutral only in parts and for selects. Its like Andho mein KANA raja. Their blunders exposed to fullest during Golmaal-3 reporting when almost all of their reported figures proved horribly wrong. I mean how one cab report 4 crore on first day when actuals are 8+ crore ?? I hope one fine day we have one fair boxoffice site with no manipulations and agenda at all.
January 20, 2011 at 4:35 AM
http://www.hindustantimes.com/AK-Hangal-ignored-by-his-own-fraternity/Article1-652550.aspx
sad to hear such stories..
January 20, 2011 at 5:53 AM
This is really sad …Don’t know why they always claim they (film industry) are like one big family…
January 20, 2011 at 7:10 AM
But they are like one big family. Such things happen in Indian families, too.
January 20, 2011 at 6:52 AM
Yamla Pagla Deewana Steady On Tuesday
Wednesday 19th January 2011 13.30 IST
Boxofficeindia.Com Trade Network
Yamla Pagla Deewana was steady on Tuesday with around 3.25 crore nett business. The total after five days is in the 29.50-29.75 crore nett region and the film will finish the week with 35 crore nett approx.
The approx billings in five days are 9 crore in Mumbai, 8 crore in Delhi/UP and 4.75 crore in East Punjab.
The Punjab belt of East Punjab circuit is seeing records smashed on a daily basis. Monday and Tuesday has seen Amritsar collect more than Gurgaon (biggest centre of East Punjab circuit) when normally a film collects just 20% of Gurgaon in Amritsar.