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39 Responses to “The Big Picture – Anupama Chopra, Masand, Mayank and Raja Sen in Conversation!”
Mayank’s first answer was so stupid– Just because you can write well, doesn’t make you a critic. And He says it gives the reader an opportunity to dicuss movies with the critic, as if the critic is next door neighbor.
thought mayank and sen were too pretentiously ‘serious’ but masand and chopra came off ok. chopra even admitted she is not a critic but a reviewer (which is what all of them are). and for all the flak and film makers’ insistence that they don’t care about critics, they clearly do since they keep courting these people anyway. i have never heard anything as stupid as srk not talking to a publication for years due to a bad film review (a lot more understandable if they wrote something personal). how much of an insecure fool can you make of yourself? no wonder these people think they are so important, since a bad review can hurt these stars’ inflated egos so much.
Many reviewers are sold out and many are being vindictive.
Word of mouth and a star’s standing are playing important part in the success of a film.
For example, a critic like Raja Sen may trash every Aamir Khan movie and that will not make the star’s fans not to see the movie or it will prevent others from doing the same. Misusing one’s position as a critic, to settle scores will not prevent the star getting more offers or success. SRK need not worry about critics. He has tremendous fanbase which will not let him down. And Salman has rewritten history without the critics help. To hell with critics.
yes, but why give them the time of the day? that’s just giving them more power, was my point. better to just ignore it. and they sure do highlight the same reviewer’s review if it’s a positive one, heights of hypocrisy. stars are in bed with them in this incestuous relationship, so no need to pretend to be better than them.
i still remember salman coming to chopra’s show, being terribly rude and saying she’ll give him a bad review. if he doesn’t realize the show is mutually beneficial because he is promoting his film and doesn’t have anything to do with what review she’ll give his movie, he is a moron. why did he show up? and if he cares so much about what reviewers will think, may be he should stop making terrible films. if not, why bring it up? that’s what i was saying, they do care despite all protestations to the contrary, they want to have their cake and eat it too. and if srk doesn’t need them, why harass a small time critic backstage at an award show years later about a review? this makes them both as big, if not bigger, idiots than the reviewers they seem to detest.
These film critics can stop acting as holy cows and public wont be fooled anymore. They should first review themselves and also do some self intrspection. They should be able to criticise the blacksheep among them in the same manner they criticise the movies.
Journalists and critics reputations have reached new low after Radia tapes controversy, alleged blackmailing of Naveen Jindal and film critics being feted and showered with gifts by well heeled producers and stars. One critic wrote her reviews almost with closed eyes giving every movie 3 to 4 stars. We all know how some important film critics are on special lists.
yes, and the same stars and film makers pay them to write good reviews, so they are all equally liable. it’s like the indian public blaming everyone but themselves for corruption, while indulging in it every single day of their lives.
isnt that the point? if stars dont care abt reviews, then why shower them with gifts? They dont care only when its a bad review.
The filmstars have to sell their product and thus I dont find anything wrong if they cosy upto journalists. But journalists have to have some ethics to wardoff such things and present a clear picture. Nowadays the journalists have big corporate media behind them and they cant be critical. Thats why nowadays we are seeing 2 faced critical reviews. On bashing the film and the other praising the star and the performance.
And these journalists’s lives depend on so many things and thus we see their fake reviews.
And some of these journalists approach stars with their scripts and ideas and when they are rejected as hell hath no fury as the journalist’s scripts being rejected.
I am glad that Salman Khan’s movie are becoming blockbusters making all these critics huddle together. Why they lost touch with the filmgoing public? they have so much contempt for the masses but now they are joining the chorus with their 2 faced reviews as they are being sidelined.
did anyone praise salman khan for his performance? I hope not!!
Not on the journos side at all, but I find both stars and journos equally unethical. The point was how stars pretend that they dont care abt reviews, but in reality they do. Not talking if general public cares abt reviews. Word of mouth plays a big role for Indian movies.
Anyway its going in circles!!!
Yes. They praised Salman’s performance. I read all those reviews for fun.
And reviews have become advertisements for films. So I posted some reviews to promote Table No.21. I am a fan of Paresh and Khandelwal.
Thanks for this link. I watched complete 1 hour 25 mins of show. Was good to hear the views of these popular critics; they should have more such shows, with other critics.That former Tehelka journo Pragya, she did her job well, leading the topic with right questions. Liked whatever Anupama had to say; she spoke humbly about difference between reviewers-journos and critics (who need to have solid all round knowledge, in the manner of good book critics).
Masand was all right, Raja Sen full of himself but not too talkative and Mayank was ok. But Mayank’s insistence on talking about ‘good written English’…is that the ultimate criterion ? Aren’t there other factors? Like knowledge of the subject the film tries to cover–beyond superficial awareness and bluster?
Mayank praised Rajeev Masand’s open column. What is there in that except some cheeky gossip. Ok, it’s readable and fun mostly, chalo….but I feel that Open is not consistent; sometimes arrogant, sometimes mediocre, like the people they trash. Opinionated and sometimes offensively patronizing…like that Raja Sen. I mean this chap has an ATTITUDE, seriously.
And these critics don’t even have proper knowledge, I think. Recently I read this book ‘The Land of the Seven Rivers’, by Sanjeev Sanyal– a well written detailed, medium-length geographical history of India (am in fact reviewing it for a paper). The book talks about Zoroastrian settlers in Gujarat, the Parsi community,moving on to Mumbai in 18th-19th centuries, making money in the opium trade, being part of Bombay’s commercial growth…many parsis made their money by two methods –building-repairing ships and being part of opium business, some moving on to Hong Kong… Well, I could not help remember how the film Mangal Pandey featured a parsi gentleman engaged in opium business, its manufacture and all that follows. And I remember reading how Ketan Mehta slogged with his research for 17 years, while he wrote and made the film—and the film got lambasted by our supposedly smart critics ( Raja Sen was extremely harsh and sarcastic, while Anupama was fair).
I wonder how many sincerely made films have met similar fate at the hands of puffed up reviewers with little knowledge. I have not seen Santosh Shivan’s Ashoka, but I remember my daughter saying it was good–when it was shown on tv as a serialized weekly show. I guess Ashoka was written after a fair amount of research— but got bollywoodized in treatment, and hence lambasted by critics.
Anupama chopra not saying much was no surprise to me as far as the topic of discussion is concerned, Her reviews show the limited knowledge of subjects she possesses. The video reviews that she does are as irrelevant as they come. the four buffoons in this video are buffoons only for one reason- They take themselves and what they do more seriously than what it actually is.
The RSS chief has already proved that he is not much different from Islamic fundamentalists thanks to preposterous remarks like ‘Rape doesn’t happen in Bharat, it only happens in modern, westernized India’. Even the article you link to notes that it is idiotic to pretend that he is progressive/ egalitarian just because the media happens to have blatantly misrepresented one of his statements.
RSS= Owaisi? Kuch bhee!!!!! P.S.-this is your biased view of RSS speaking…..
I didn’t say RSS = Owaisi, I said that the RSS chief’s brand of intense cultural jingoism is in principle, not much different from Islamic fundamentalism. But perhaps you are the biased one, who can excuse any sort of shocking statement as long as it comes from a person of a certain religious/ ideological affiliation?
whatever suits you….
the point was more about the english media and their obvious biases, really do not want to get into a debate with you about the difference between Desh Droh and Desh Prem….
P.S.- I agree that Bhagwat’s earlier comment was totally stupid as was of the BJP minister from MP..they all are same BUT not Owaisee!!!
This was the BJP’s golden moment to win over the nation, but unfortunately they’ve ruined it by competing with the Congress in the foot-in-the-mouth competition. One BJP minister wants to ban skirts for schoolgirls, another blames women for crossing the ‘lakshman rekha’ and now this moron comes out with his ‘rapes only happen in urban, Westernized India’ comment .
Honestly, exactly how many sick, insensitive comments can our politicians (from either party) come up with regarding such a devastating incident? How difficult is it to understand that it is the utter lack of any sort of legal repurcussion or punishment that emboldens rapists, and this is what needs to be addressed?
I’m not comparing to Owaisi at all, his was a blatant attempt to incite communal violence. What I’m saying is that these sort of culturally jingoistic comments (where any sort of tragedy is used to push their perverse agenda for keeping women covered from head-to-foot and within the four walls of their home, even if it means blatantly lying about and glorifying the treatment of women in areas where such culture is still followed and baselessly blaming ‘westernization’) is not that different from the fundamentalist Islamic approach to women.
agree, the whole mindset needs to change, Asaram Bapu made a really stupid comment today,
read a very good article by Tavleen Singh where she said that these politicians these days are so far removed from the Junta that they do not realize their feelings…
“Asaram Bapu made a really stupid comment today…”
It was naive of me (the mango people) to think that all these people were expressing their ‘opinion’ be it RSS/BJP/Asaram until it finally dawned on me that all these people are just making ‘statements’ that are competing in regression to get that elusive thing called publicity. To get to the headline news for 2 minutes kuch bhi bolega. Asaram bapu himself is child abuser and has no sane person would ‘follow’ him. What a novel way to get some cheap publicity..who cares for some poor girl’s death somewhere.
it is the same think that devgan did with chopra. Generate enough ‘controversy’ and promote your movie. Anything to get junta’s attention. duh…I have been taken for a ride….
When the young medical student whose intestines were pulled out with an iron rod by her rapists was still struggling to live in Safdarjung Hospital, and thousands gathered at India Gate and Vijay Chowk to pray for her I waited every day for young political leaders to join the protesters. The Lok Sabha is awash with the daughters, sisters and wives of powerful political leaders and I thought at least one or two would show up to join the protests. The Leader of the Opposition in the Lok Sabha is a woman who has demanded the death penalty for rapists so I thought she would come for political reasons if not out of real pain. There are influential women Chief Ministers who have also made a huge noise about harsher sentences for rapists. They were in Delhi for the National Development Council meeting while the protests were still going on, and it would have helped them politically to make an appearance but they did not come either. Why? http://www.niticentral.com/2013/01/we-are-no-longer-prepared-to-put-up-with-ineffective-leaders.html
HISAR: A khap panchayat in a Hisar village has banned mobile phones for youngsters and ordered girls not to wear jeans and T-shirts. Organising a DJ party is out of bounds and a complete prohibition on liquor has also been issued.
The decision was taken by the panchayat at Khedar village. Sarpanch Shamsher Singh said, “We have decided to ban alcohol as it is the main reason behind rapes. We have also banned jeans and T-shirts for girl students as it is not a proper dress.”
Shanti Devi, a middle-aged woman present at the panchayat said, “The decision of the panchayat is good and will check the harassment of girls. Poor dressing is the main reason behind rapes”. The panchayat formed an 11-member committee to ensure that the decision is implemented. “We welcome the decision of the panchayat and anyone organizing a DJ party in the village will be fined Rs 11,000. Our main purpose is to close the alcohol shops in the village as liquor is the main reason behind attacks on women,” said panch Mahaveer Singh, a resident of the village.
Youngsters have opposed the diktat. “The decisions will prove to be counter-productive. The mobiles can be useful in alerting parents or the police in case of assaults,” said Ram Kishan, a young man from the village. Another man, who termed the khap diktat outlandish, irrelevant and objectionable, said on anonymity: “These people are vindictive. If we question their decision they will ban us from the village.”