SM on Viswaroopam

I was very excited about Viswaroopam when the first trailer came out, for two reasons. First, it’s a Kamal Haasan film, and I always look forward to those. Second, the trailer showed him dancing Kathak, so I was extra excited that I would get to see him doing classical dance again. I didn’t quite understand the explosions and stuff toward the end. In online discussions following the film’s ban in Tamil Nadu, there were mentions that the film was about global terrorism, and some mention of a terrorist bombing in Coimbatore. So I thought that, given the title, it would show some interconection of all these various terrorist events in India and how they connect to global terrorism.

But that’s not exactly what it is. For one thing, the entire film takes place in New York and Afghanistan, with not one scene in India. It does raise the question, why is an Indian film being made on this topic? The connection to India, via Kamal’s character, seemed forced to me.

However, before listing what all I disliked about the film, let me talk about what I liked. It was indeed the Kathak dance sequence with Kamal. It’s nice to know Kamal still has it in him to dance, but I was absolutely mesmerized by his facial expressions during the dance, the Abhinaya. Especially when he was enacting the role of Radha pining for Krishna, I was reminded of an Odissi performance I had once seen of Kelucharan Mohapatra, when he, too, was enacting Radha in a similar situation. The person who accompanied me said she was reminded of Birju Maharaj’s performance that she had seen once. Watching Kamal’s dance, it was obvious that he was completely living the character, and that’s why his expressions were so perfect. His character was that of a somewhat effete dance teacher, and the way Kamal carried that portrayal out, his body language, his dialog delivery, was delicious.

From here on, I can’t give any details without spoilers, so suffice it to say that the film is basically an action thriller. I can’t discuss the story without spoiling the suspense of the thriller parts. Various events ensue with some surprising twists, or at least twists that were intended to be surprising. Unfortunately I could see them coming a mile way, especially the lead up to the first fight.

So now I will skip to evaluating the film as a whole. I liked Dasavatharam a lot, mainly for its philosophical underpinnings, which I thought were what was really important to the story, and were more than enough to overcome some of the shortcomings in the production (primarily Kamal’s makeup and prosthetics in some sequences). With a name like Viswaroopam, I expected some similar philosophical insights or at least suggestions. There were none. There is nothing in this film besides what appears on the surface. There is no deeper meaning or context to the terrorism portrayed. This was a major source of disappointment to me.

I don’t even think it’s about “global terrorism”, but about the activities of one terrorist group or cell. The film doesn’t tell us anything we don’t already know about the situation in Afghanistan over the last decade. Nor does it have any particular message besides “Terrorists do bad things.” Well, duh. It could be claimed that it is against terrorism, but is so only in an indirect fashion, and within a masala film format. That is to say, terrorists are the villains here, but only because a villain is needed. They could just as well be any other kind of criminals.

Aside from the lack of a layered approach, I was also surprised at the predictability of the screenplay. As I said, I could see every twist coming well ahead of time, which rather spoils the “thrill” aspect. The only advantage I derived from this foresight was that I could close my eyes whenever a gory or violent scene was coming up, since it was telegraphed so clearly. The film does have a lot of gory violence, but it is again without context. Obviously a film on terrorism will have to show violence, but I don’t know why the camera has to linger on particularly horrific images. The intent is not so much to illuminate a narrative point as to shock the viewer. It was completely gratuitous. I don’t know if this is a standard style of Tamil films.

It is a competent enough film, but one doesn’t (at least I don’t) see a Kamal film for mere competence. This film could have been made by anybody. There was no added value to having Kamal in the film, and similarly, the film adds nothing to Kamal’s resume. There is absolutely no need for him to do a film like this at this point. The ending, indeed, made me wonder if this is Kamal’s mid-life crisis film, as Ra.1 was said to be SRK’s mid-life crisis. I don’t mean to compare the films in terms of quality – Viswaroopam is much better made, but, while it is not bad or even mediocre, it is that much worse thing – pointless.

So, on to the banning. Is the film offensive to Muslims? I am not Muslim, so I am not competent to answer this question fully. From a non-Muslim perspective, therefore, my opinion is that it can be offensive, to two types of Muslims, for two different reasons. One is the continual uttering of “Allah hu Akbar” by the terrorists just before or just after they blow up something, or kill somebody. I can well understand that, for devout Muslims for whom that saying is a sacred utterance associated with spiritual purification, to hear it in this context will be a desecration. I myself was bothered by it. However, the film is dealing with people who did and do commit terrorist acts in the name of Allah, so this can hardly be avoided. And that brings us to the second group who may be offended, namely those who deny that there are any Muslim terrorists in the world. Some hold the position that the U.S. visits greater amounts of terror in the countries which it has invaded, so that those who fight against it, or have instigated into war, cannot be considered terrorists. Others claim that the terrorists have so distorted the meaning of Islam that they cannot be considered true Muslims, so that there is no such thing as a Muslim terrorist. It is these latter groups that I think will be especially enraged with this film, because, unlike other Hindi films that I have seen dealing with terrorist themes, there is absolutely no justification or rationalization offered for the terrorist point of view, which I found refreshing. They are already fully into their campaign, and they and their activities are presented as simply a fait accomplit, without worrying about how things got to that stage.

I was thinking the above as the film ended, and mused that, again unlike other films, there was no “good Muslim” character to balance out the “bad Muslim” characters. But as I was driving home I suddenly realized that there was in fact a “good Muslim” – and a major character, too. Now, is the fact that I didn’t think of him as “Muslim” a testament to how well the character was portrayed at a human level, or a shortcoming of the script that it didn’t bring out this aspect more to balance out the negative portrayals? I’m still debating that one. (I didn’t think of the terrorists as “Muslim”, either, but trying to understand the thinking of those demanding the ban, I could see how those characters would offend them.)

I will say one thing, and that emphatically. Whatever interpretation one chooses to put on the portrayals of Muslims, the film clearly is not deliberately or intentionally trying to malign anyone or any religion. It is not Kamal’s invention that the Afghan terrorists are Muslims and believe that they are fighting in the name of their religion. He merely presented the facts.

Even if some deem it offensive, I do not support the suppression of any art work, so do not support the ban, but I realize that’s not how things work in India. But I do think that, for taking such a risk of offending a large group of people, there has to be more of a payoff for the film maker, and I don’t see any. Kamal didn’t need to make this film, because it adds nothing to our understanding of terrorism, Muslims, or Indians.

There were the obligatory anti-American rhetoric that seems fashionable in many Indian films, though somewhat toned down from Dasavatharam. Far more offensive was the usual racist portrayal of African American women. And finally, I suppose it was inevitable that, in a film hewing so closely to the commercial formula, the heroine is obliged to be a bimbette and act like one, even though she has a Ph.D. in nuclear oncology.

Sorry, one more final thought. Someone either here or another forum said that a subject like this needs to be made in a “pan-Indian” language like Hindi, rather than a “regional” one like Tamil, because it’s so important. I don’t know about that, but I did feel that using Tamil as the base language greatly detracted from the authenticity of the film, while Hindi would have been more natural. Again I don’t know why Kamal chose to make this film in Tamil. There is really no connection to Tamil Nadu, except that his character is from there. But, in real life, he would have learned Hindi for professional reasons.

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72 Responses to “SM on Viswaroopam”

  1. LOL, that was fast, Munna! Thank you. :)

    • If you want to change picture or anything please me know. I will be online for another half an hour.

      • It’s fine, but you have a picture of the Telugu Version; if you can find a Tamil poster, it’ll be more appropriate, I think, since I watched the Tamil film. But it really doesn’t matter.

        • lol…Next one could be malayalam :)

          • Ha, ha, thank you for the update. Anyway now it’s been banned in Kerala, too, so no point to putting up a Malayalam poster. Or maybe you should put up posters from all the places it’s been banned. I doubt that the Hindi version will be allowed to run, either. :(

  2. RajuJanak IdeaUnique Says:

    “There is absolutely no need for him to do a film like this at this point. The ending, indeed, made me wonder if this is Kamal’s mid-life crisis film, as Ra.1 was said to be SRK’s mid-life crisis”

    sm u really like kamal a lot :-) which was his last B.O. hit film pl.? :-)
    pl. see his filmography here and do tell me as I don’t follow his films from B.O point of view.

    http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0352032/
    the last hindi film of his I’ve seen is Chachi 420 – in 1997! didn’t like at all.
    I had absolutely loved him in Sadma and EDJKL as well as Saagar.
    But what are his Tamil B.O. hits in last 15 years?

  3. omrocky786 Says:

    Great review SM, I have a Mallu friend whose wife is Tamil and they both really enjoyed the movie, but even he said that this movie will work better in hindi and wants to come along with me when the hindi version releases.

    • Thanx for the review SM
      As I have said before, this is a ‘significant’ Indian film release in more ways than one
      Besides coming from indias ‘mr cinema’ as I continue to cal Kamal (amidst active resistance here from some lol)
      Will read your full review after the Hindi/english subtitled version comes out (if at all)
      Also good u caught it before it gets banned!
      Does these intimidatory tactics mean nobody should have the guts to make films on this pertinent an topical theme!
      Who will risk such big losses even if he has the ‘vision’ to handle a subject like this!
      As for Kamals ability as a director (we all know his acting capabilities) –I have no doubts after ‘hey raam’
      Kamal hassan is the best actor /director alive int erms of sheer grip over the cinematic medium in India ( even on all time basis he has a stake in the argument!)
      Box office is a different matter an we can let the likes of messrs rajnikant, Salman khan take care of that aspect with their (lack of) quality!
      Ps sm-have u written something on ‘hey raam’…

      • @Alex, I haven’t written on Hey Ram here (I saw it before this blog existed :) ), but I think it is the perfect film, and the pinnacle of Kamal’s career so far.

        • “but I think it is the perfect film, and the pinnacle of Kamal’s career so far.”
          ahaa sm–i must say that this one line you have proved u know your cinema ! (as far as im concerned!)
          btw im relieved to find one more human who feels that (i was beginning to feel lonely with that ‘hey raam’ celebration!)
          I actually dont remember seeing many another ‘perfect’ indian films (of any actor/director)

          After seeing that film, and the fact that kamal had directed it as well–i had only one sentiment–respect and humility
          When some here pour scorn on kamal here, and compare him to freakoids like rajni kunt, one can only laugh at them!! What the…?

          Its reassuring u say Hey raam is the pinnacle of kamals career—i presume u must have seen most of his films? isnt it?
          ps—my other confession —hey raam is the only kamal film ive seen in totality!!
          and i still felt it is the pinnacle of his career and perhaps one of indias best ever!
          ps2–can u post your piece on hey raam…
          btw those who havent seen it may mistake it as a treatise on “ram” or ‘hinduism’ which it isnt…

  4. ===Sorry, one more final thought. Someone either here or another forum said that a subject like this needs to be made in a “pan-Indian” language like Hindi, rather than a “regional” one like Tamil, because it’s so important.===

    Yup, that’s me- & I also have to say the following about him..

    http://satyamshot.wordpress.com/2013/01/25/race-2-akaashvani-inkaar-ongoing-the-rest-of-the-box-office/#comment-207866

    & your review confirms that he made the film in Tamil ONLY to rake in the moolah..because when you have fans that say..’It is our duty to make the Uldaganayagan’s movie a hit by watching it over and over again’, you can get away with some inferior stuff..he obviously wouldn’t find this kind of fanaticism for him elsewhere in India..especially north of the Vindhyas..

  5. Fantastic piece here SM. Thanks!

  6. Kamal gave the DTH rights to VIjay TV instead of Jaya TV owned by Jayalalitha. Kamal is not inviting violence. It is Jayalalitha who is inciting the muslims against the movie.
    This view is expressed by one of the bloggers.

  7. They blame films for not taking up relevant issues and when films take up these issues, they are banned and harassed no end. So that directors have to make heroes out of villains to placate groups. The powerful ambani brothers were happy only when Guru depicted their father as a hero. And RGV’s Sarkar series also proves the point. Calling a spade a spade is dangerous akin to playing with fire.

    • This is exactly the point. Every time someone bleats, “Why don’t Indian films win the Oscar?” I want to scream at them, “First give film makers the space in which to make meaningful films!” This is only the latest example of a long line of shameful episodes.

  8. This was a good read SM. Especially liked the third paragraph. To be honest though (and I haven’t seen this film) I haven’t been excited about Kamal for a very long time. He’s been a great survivor but a very diminished if not negligible box office force over the last twenty 15-20 years though his enormous prestige entails the media still giving him very kind coverage on this score. I mention this not for the usual vulgar reasons (box office debates and the like) but this fact has a very important link with many of the choices he’s made. Once again I actually have admiration for his survival skills and he’s certainly tried every conceivable genre, all sorts of directors within this period to somehow keep moving ahead. However all of this has also entailed a level of cynicism that marks many of his works in this very period. It’s one thing to do comedies for the obvious box office reasons and quite another to court controversy. Put differently he often seems interested in these ‘world-historical’ projects (for want of a better term) that either offer history as a gimmick or where the political controversies of the present are used as fodder in otherwise frighteningly mediocre films. Then there have also been some experimental attempts along the way. Once again I don’t have an issue with his doing the mix from his comedies to Aalavandhan to Shankar to Gautham Menon to Dasavatharam to the remake of a Wednesday etc etc. He’s navigated his fading box office returns better than any comparable star I can think of and has really collected the chips on his cultural capital in very strategic ways. So the failures are often seen as those of a visionary, the controversies inflate the visibility of a film even when it might actually lose money, the grand commercial ventures are ‘weaker’ attempts at emulating Rajni, so on and so forth. Throughout all of this there is often the subtext of empty philosophy/ spirituality permeating certain ventures.

    The point I’m trying to make is that a lot of his attempts are merely cynical ones that are taken too seriously by the media and of course many of the fans. There is really nothing there! And for a star of his standing and seminal stature I find this sort of cynicism hard to take beyond a point. Note, I don’t mind his doing a shankar or a Gautham menon or what have you. In these instances he just places himself in a viable commercial setup. That’s fine. It’s the stuff he fashions for himself in other areas that often seems deeply questionable.

    The two grand exceptions in this period are of course the two films he directed, both miles ahead of the competition. In fact there shouldn’t even be a debate. These are interesting, sharp films in just about every sense. Not least because these are authentic films and not manufactured attempts. What I then blame Kamal for (besides not directing more often!) is not attempting this kind of writing with other directors. These films are no less viable than many that he does attempt. When Kamal does a film which has music scored by Himesh Reshammiya I certainly cringe. Because this is symptomatic of larger issues.

    In one sense though he’s managed to take advantage of the greater visibility that Tamil (and Telugu) cinema enjoys in the present. His move toward these relatively less rooted pan-Indian or ‘international’-seeming projects is understandable. Because he too markets himself as a great Southern star who now deserves to be known in Hindi circles. And with this contemporary encounter between cinema from the South and ‘Bollywood’ there are very many takers in the latter. A fact not really reflected in the box office receipts. In other words those who’ve discovered Kamal (or Rajni for that matter) a generation or two later and who instead of doing the hard work of educating themselves in the important older works of these stars are quite happy to absorb the ‘Bollywoodized’ contemporary offerings of the same and somehow attest in their own right the ‘genius’ of these transcendent icons. Once again I don’t mean to be harsh on these folks but this is a significant part of this entire matrix.

    To be blunt about it I am deeply skeptical if not suspicious of the appropriation of ‘Southern’ cinema for ‘Bollywood’ ends. Which is not say I don’t welcome the greater attention given to the former at another level. But my larger point is that Kamal has been very good at exploiting this web. He’s playing the Tamil system well and he’s now doing the same in this greater sense.

    My objection simply amounts to this — one can be admiring of Kamal’s stamina, certainly his goals have always been laudable in terms of trying to foster more meaningful commercial entertainment, even within this period he has pushed the envelope at times, and finally (and even though this might sound contradictory) I don’t begrudge him his survival skills. But for a star of his fabled history and his cultural meaning I find it very hard to accept many of his contemporary choices. I would mind all of this less if there were films like Hey Ram or Virumandi or a regular basis but those have truly been exceptions. I could still live easier with mediocre commercial stuff but it is the Dasavatharam (though this had a great period half hour early on) or the Vishvaroopam kind of attempt (frankly this always seemed to me rather terrible from all the advertising.. though I will of course check it out) that really rankles.

    I might often seem harsh on the ‘late age’ of stars. But much as I understand the reason why these things happen I don’t think it is terribly unfair to hold a certain kind of star to a higher standard.

    • I agree with all these points except one or two.

      Still I cant write him off.

    • Very well said. I wish I had even the slightest inclination to see this film given it’s Kamal directing but (as you suggest) it really seems more in line with the messy Dasavatharam kind of affair than his previous two ventures as a director. Ah, well. On to Kadal.

      • RajuJanak IdeaUnique Says:

        that was very well written satyam. In hindi – as I wrote earlier – I really liked him in Ek…. Saagar….Sadma….Pushpak (all though that was a silent film :-) ) but then kamal sort of eloped from bw – later on he came back with Hindustani and Chachi 420…..but this was hardly the kamal one saw earlier…..but yes! he has survived and still kept his credit of image (built in the past) alive – but that credit is fast running out unlike rajini who is more like Sallu as he plays to the public and knows what public wants of him. Whereas kamal has become little self-indulgent and he is actually going Dev Anand way……..

    • As much as I agree with a lot of points – quite harsh ones at that though you have your disclaimer there – as a fan I still eagerly wait for every Kamal film, no matter where the film stands on the ambition scale. It’s basically all of us longing for the simple, subtle but hard hitting Kamal of the late 80s to 90s to his two directorial ventures that every one of us is yearning for but haven’t found in close to a decade.

      I don’t have that big a problem with him choosing to do comedies as punctuation. In fact it was working very well through the 90s and he gave memorable, if not masterly (unlike an MMKR that’s both and more than just any other comedy film) films. Heck, there were lot of good things about Mumbai Express too. But somewhere down the line he lost it and opted to go the commercial big-event projects that you talk about. That was always Rajni forte and he plays to the galleries and of late, in classier ways but I think Kamal goes for some of his own ambitious overtures and the end product is messy. I hope it is a phase a la Lal Baadshah or Mrityudata (!) and he really doesn’t become a Dev Anand as some here claim him to be. I mean, frankly, it is atrocious and extremely ignorant comparison to make considering the authorial prowess of this man, starting from Aboorva Sagodharargal and throughout every project in the 90s wrt screenplays and culminating in the two directorial ventures.

      On another note, it is painful when such a talented man is held to ransom by scores of people, no matter the quality of the film, especially someone who’s been such a crowning jewel of the Tamil industry. I am in Chennai, can you tell!

      PS
      Sanjana succinctly said what I wanted to say though.

      • that’s a completely fair position.

        “It’s basically all of us longing for the simple, subtle but hard hitting Kamal of the late 80s to 90s to his two directorial ventures that every one of us is yearning for but haven’t found in close to a decade. ”

        This is more or less what I was getting at. I’d just extend the period. And yes I am not a fan of the comedies in this period.

        I should just add here that I enjoy a lot of his commercial ‘masala’ stuff from the 80s as well. Most of these aren’t great films by any means but enjoyable nonetheless.

      • I agree that the Dev Anand comparison is way harsh.

      • meant to say this earlier but I don’t agree with the Dev Anand analogy at all. Only Dev Anand was ever on Dev Anand’s path!

        • “Only Dev Anand was ever on Dev Anand’s path!”–haha good one , satyam…
          btw this comparison of KH with dev anand is not only unfair (for both) but also lopsided …
          Lack of box office success is an issue but not when dealing with the planes kamal deals with. Not as an actor really, but his direction has added a totally different dimension to his craft.
          Just bcos others cant do what KH can, doesnt mean he shoudnt do it!
          As for dev anand–its convenient to judge him and belittle him on his post alzheimers nishabdesque phase–but thats not what he ought be judged by –just like tendulkar shouldnt be judged by these days where he struggles against monty panesar and ashley giles..(though this comparison isnt totally apt)

          ps—just to add to my comment above–with this post, sm has come of age (from those salman fangirl days) :-)

          • Dev Anand is a true blue legend. No doubt about it. Of course he was a total non-actor but that’s another matter. There’s probably no other example of a star of his stature deconstructing himself so profoundly. Having said that there’s also no other star whose deconstruction has become (for better and worse, mostly the latter) so iconic!

            On Kamal the problem though is that he hasn’t directed very much at all in this period. If anything and given his extraordinary gifts even in this sense he should have taken a backseat as an actor, done maybe the odd film here and there, something befitting his stature, and otherwise focused on direction. the Tamil film industry has uniquely provided all kinds of opportunities for precisely the cinema he’s been interested in.

            The problem with Kamal though is that he’s forever been haunted by Rajni. Because he could do everything but never reach the latter’s box office supremacy. and this was confirmed for him with all sorts of other signs. For instance he used to complain that IR never gave his films the kind of music that he gave Rajni’s films. The thing is that Tamil cinema has always had this twin structure with MGR-Sivaji (with sometimes a trio featuring Gemini) first and then Rajni-Kamal where there is one supreme box office force and then one supreme actor who’s formidable in box office terms but cannot match his ‘twin’. Kamal however has always been too ambitious to concede the box office argument even as he accepts the obvious reality. The thing is that only in Malayalam cinema with Mohanlal and Mammmootty (the most unique twin structure anywhere in cinema that at least I am aware of where you have comparable box office forces and comparable actors.. to be precise Lal has always had the greater ‘actor’ reputation and at points the greater box office one as well but nonetheless this is as close as it gets and it’s not an example found anywhere else) or specially with Bachchan in Hindi cinema do you have the absolute box office figure married to the absolute actor (Hindi cinema earlier had Dilip Kumar but though he was considered the greatest actor in box office terms he still had very close rivals in Dev anand and Raj Kapoor, the great trio of the 50s). Kamal has always wished to be this sort of figure but this fate has never been granted him. Here it should also be added that because Rajni does not have the Bachchan or Lal reputation as actor it is easy to underestimate his skill set or to reduce him simply to his bag of tricks. Kamal is astute enough to intuit what is special about Rajni (and the latter’s scene stealing abilities were evident even early on when both started out in the 70s and shared screen space) but I think he’d rest easier if he could consider Rajni a finer actor.

          • “Because he could do everything but never reach the latter’s box office supremacy”
            Why should he yearn for rajni kants ‘supremacy’?
            Its written in the tone of kamals films that he is in a different plane–as an actor and may i say, even as a director from many so-called greats!
            yeah, the ‘volume’ maybe less in kamals case but above a certain threshold, it does become an all-or none law and quantity doesnt matter (beyond a point)

            in a rough comparison, Rajni kant and salman (in his current phase) occupy a similar space more or less
            To me, Kamal is the baap of what aamir khan will ever be!
            (though aamir obviously has balanced the commercial with critical beautifully)
            But when it comes to HARDCORE quality and ability–
            kamal is streeeets ahead in the game!
            ps–as u can see, i continue to make these definitive statements based on very little exposure to kamals filmography
            But thats not new for me lol…take it or leave it haha

            ps—ive also read this ‘criticism’ of kamal trying out ‘other wordly’ roles and can no longer do the ‘normal”
            well, a point comes in life when one gets bored and strives for the next level–its more the fault of mediocres who struggle to keep pace not kamal
            And its not his fault others cant grow at the same pace!

            ps2–i can totally empathise his dilemma of trying to cope with the mediocrity around!
            yes he is getting indulgent and narcissistic but there are bigger sins–when the likes of nobodys arshad warsi and reema kagti can aim for that and also get a way with it –cant kamal?

          • No one had the screen presence that Sivaji ganeshan commanded. Not even Dilip Kumar or Bachchan. And his acting was said to have melted even the hardest of hearts.

          • btw sanju—wheres your ‘piece’ ( i meant, on kamals film that u were gonna write)–Has the film been banned in bombay?
            ps–sm– did u manage to see the movie in india….or overseas..

          • I am not qualified or erudite enough to write a piece on a film.

          • hahaha sanju–thats the joke of the day/nite…
            so u feel one has to be ‘qualified’ and ‘erudite’ to write a piece on a film –(oops–with all due respect to some who write regular proper structured pieces here) :-)

            ps–be confident & cum out (with a piece)–al d best–look@sm
            ps2–i personally love analysing/dissecting pieces (than writing them)–haha what humility…
            lemme stop here..my ‘political incorrectness’ is about to come out…gud nite… :-)

          • RajuJanak IdeaUnique Says:

            “To me, Kamal is the baap of what aamir khan will ever be!”

            This is what happens when you drive your car with mouth and type with your ears ;-) even the finest rajini jokes can not match this one :-) u r a true fan of kamal man.

          • Haha unique idea –unfortunately u have to be woken from your dreams –there IS life beyond ileana (&aamir khan!)
            While have no problems wirh your first love (ileana!)–bcos ‘love is blind’
            As for aamir-I like him no less than u, but in comparison to Kamal hassan (barring recent box office & street smart film making & balancing critical and commercial appeal) KH is ahead (both in terms of acting and way ahead in direction)

            Ps– as for driving, Im addicted to multitasking-if I had my way-I would finish all my chores during the endless traffic jams (& use that time for other pursuits) lol

  9. KH talks in LA:

    He says partition shouldn’t have occurred but have to disagree on that – otherwise we would be fighting extremists all our life..and being a never-developed but always developing-country, you cannot have ALL your money going down the drain fighting extremists.

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/videos/entertainment/regional/tamil/Kamal-Haasan-talks-about-ban-on-Vishwaroopam/videoshow/18164415.cms

  10. ===Yeh lo..while on the subject of ‘intolerance’, this is howlarious that such a case can be filed in India and that hours would be spent working on this..this time it is our AB..===

    The Allahabad High Court today dismissed a petition, which had accused Bollywood superstar Amitabh Bachchan of having made a “derogatory” remark “with malicious intention” about the Holy Quran in a more than a year-old episode of game show ‘Kaun Banega Crorepati’.

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/bollywood/news-interviews/HC-dismisses-petition-against-Amitabh-Bachchan/articleshow/18219395.cms

    ===========

    & for those interested in BO statistics/dynamics..trade says the ban could spell a loss of 30 crores initially..

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/bollywood/news-interviews/Vishwaroopam-ban-can-spell-Rs-30-crore-loss-Experts/articleshow/18218067.cms

  11. omrocky786 Says:

    kahan hai Ms Roy, kahan hain CPM, CPI, Kahan hai Manish Tiwari, kahan hai SRK, kahan hai Jhola wallas, kahan hai sachchar ??????????
    baat kartey hain !!

      • Even court doesn’t want to take a position and wants them to settle amicably. Courts are there to give what is correct in view of law.

        IMO anything which has passed CBFC should be good for exhibition until and unless proved that CBFC decision was not right. Here court has not seen the movie and stays the exhibition.

        • omrocky786 Says:

          sabkee futthee hai……what is amusing that the commies do not know how to react !!

        • @munna

          It’s easy to blame the court, but if some one is dissatisfied with waiting/order/time limit he has two options

          - file a LPA before the Hon’ble Court
          - file a SLP under article 136 of the Constitution of India.

          The Fact is if one is dissatisfied with the order/waiting period, he can approach the higher forum.

          Once you submit yourself to jurisdiction of the court, the law takes it time.

          There are so many cases pending, and so many people awaiting justice, if one film is stopped, if one fails to seek favourable order from court/early hearing watching of the movie, the order can be challenged.

          Also, assume the prayer of Kamal hassan’s production house is

          “Be pleased to quash and set aside the Ban”

          Am assuming, as that way alone can the prayer can be drafted, so suppose prior to final hearing of the matter, can an interim relief be granted in nature of final relief, without seeing the subject material ( here watching of film is called examining the evidence under supervisory power of High Court ).

          Also i am assuming ( correct me if i am wrong ) that he approached the court a day or two before release ( ofcourse the ban might be a day prior to release ), hence if cause of action was so late what can court do? then notice is also required to be issued to other side, watch the movie, examine the evidence, etc

          If today you are Hon’ble Judge, if there are allegations of communal disharmony by the State Govt. and one has to balance the equities at the state of fresh admission of matter, would the court simply say let whatever happen, happen ? screen the movie? peace and harmony are important rights.

          Here there are two conflicting rights

          Right of Individual to screen movie

          versus

          Right of the state to make effort to maintain law and order/ peace / communal harmony

          This questions are required to be adjudicated and debated upon, in court of law, and cannot be decided on the spot, Legal process is slow mental process of application of mind.

          If one is Hon’ble Judge, and state provides cogent apprehension of danger on paper with report/with circular could it be simply ignored without going in to the hearing of the case? Yes Legal Process might be a bit slow if one wants a movie to release, but at what stake and what cost ?

          Today what you are reading is what is there in newspaper, and as my own cases often get reported in papers, i shall be first one to admit, they lack accuracy and proper journalism, one has to read the copy of the order, whether filing was proper, whether question was framed, whether Petitioner pressed for ex parte IR or not. etc

          Hence, it’s easy to blame the court, without understanding the constitutional scheme, rule of precedent, Interim Relief cannot beequal to final relief, what actually went, etc. So please understand the Law will take it’s own course. And a dissatisfied litigant ( like any other ) is not precluded from above reffered remedies.

          ps: i completely understand where you come from, but every institution has it’s own limitation and procedure.

        • Excessive dependence on Courts not only burdens them but also we get sometimes whimsical judgments. An ideal country must not have courts and lawyers but then it is utopia. The way one after another is declared minor and made to escape punishment in Nirbhaya case makes one wonder whether Anna Hazare and Arvind Kejriwal must be given a chance to cleanse the system with some exemplary punishments to the culprits.

    • omrocky786 Says:

      and where are Shinde, Javed Akhtar and the likes….

      • consulting Aasaram ‘bapu’ for next move. ;-)

      • Spat between Javed Akhtar, Kancha Ilaiah at Lit Fest

        A row over religion broke out between Bollywood lyricist and scriptwriter Javed Akhtar and Dalit activist and writer Kancha Illaiah at the Jaipur Literature Festival Friday.

        The tiff erupted after Akhtar, who was in the audience at a packed venue, interjected during a session on God and Buddhism, saying he was an atheist and no religion gave equality to women and weaker sections.

        “Discussing religion was like discussing which cave will be better to live. If you want to follow a religion, follow any religion. It does not matter. If you have decided to commit suicide, does it matter how you do it?” Akhtar said, triggering applause.

        To this, a fuming Ilaiah, one of the speakers, said: “Real life is not like cinema, certainly not Hindi cinema. Crores of Buddhists in India have more knowledge than intellectuals.”

        As the mood in the gathering got tense, moderator Patrick French wound up the session despite protests from the audience.

        The other two speakers were Hindi writer and Jamia Millia Islamia teacher Ajay Navaria and Punjabi poet and writer Nirupama Dutt.

        Akhtar, who was to address the next session, then took the stage and said: “All religious values should be based on justice and equality.”

        Ilaiah told IANS later: “What he said was bad. He can be an atheist but the rest of world cannot be atheist.”

        “All (Bollywood) superstars are superstitious,” he added.

        Akhtar countered: “If you watch cinema, it tells you a lot about life. Indians worship films.”

        But Ilaiah, who teaches at the Maulana Azad National Urdu University in Hyderabad, told IANS his argument was for retrieving Buddhism to change modern Indian society.

        “Buddhism in ancient India was the first religion to institutionalise the concept of justice, the concept of ‘dharma’,” he said, as he signed copies of his book, “God as Political Philosopher: Buddha’s Challenge to Brahminism”.

        http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2013-01-26/news-interviews/36563374_1_religion-buddhism-kancha-ilaiah

  12. Ah, I should have known when I saw the number of comments that no one is discussing the film, but going off on their own tangents. The discussion about the ban was happening on the thread “Viswaroopam trailer” before. I guess people can choose which thread to post further news about the ban.

    On the film, I want to say that, regardless of its quality or merits, I was determined to see it just because of the ban. I think all those who are against the ban as a violation of freedom of expression should also make it a point to see the film in the theater, as a protest. But of course everyone has to decide for him or herself.

  13. “On the film, I want to say that, regardless of its quality or merits, I was determined to see it just because of the ban. I think all those who are against the ban as a violation of freedom of expression should also make it a point to see the film in the theater, as a protest.”
    Thats the spirit sm!
    Basically this holding kamal to ransom by these miscreants is ensuring that film makers dont have the guts to make anything remotely controversial esp in certain subjects…

    I also feel that theres also a certain ‘coding’ here–Many who go gaga about certain eminently mediocre hollywood efforts (like tdkr) and also certain select bollywood ‘auteuristic’ efforts (like talaash) somehow arent as charitable/enthusiastic when certain genuinely good efforts turn up (eg matru by bharadwaj, kamals directed film and so on..)
    Again this is not a ‘criticism’, just an observation
    ps–btw those like me who live in glass houses shouldnt change clothes…

    • @Alex: To answer your questions upthread, I saw Viswaroopam overseas. I can’t claim to have seen “most” of Kamal’s films. I’ve seen some of his Telugu films over the years, as they became available outside India, either on screen, video, and now dvd. But I have still to explore most of his work in Tamil, including some of his iconic films. I’m making a slow start on them, though. :) So perhaps my statement on Hey Ram had better be amended to, it is the pinnacle of all his films that I have seen. But I will confidently say that it is the pinnacle of almost all Indian films I have ever seen, in whatever languages. Heck, I’d even go further and say it is one of the best films I have ever seen in any language from any country in the world. That is why I call it perfect, because the attention with which every little detail was crafted to serve the overall purpose of the film, and capturing of India in all its linguistic and cultural complexity, and the conveying of a complex social and political message in a non-didactic format, are all things I have never experienced in any other film that I have ever seen.

      • Wow sm–we share the same sentiments on ‘hey raam’ it seems…
        “But I will confidently say that it is the pinnacle of almost all Indian films I have ever seen, in whatever languages. Heck, I’d even go further and say it is one of the best films I have ever seen in any language from any country in the world”
        Well, I won’t call it the best ever but it’s amongst the best ever from India atleast …
        Notably I can be found watching all kinds of films and enjoying even the likes of cocktail, rockstar, znmd etc but that doesn’t mean one can’t sense a brilliant exceptional piece of work, when one sees one(& enjoy it)
        For me–it depends on my ‘mood’ & I don’t think these tastes are mutually exclusive
        As an example–if I love mani ratnams work, it’s NOT a requirement that I have to publically diss anything less ‘serious’–there’s a mood stage and place or every theme –provided done well!
        Also liked how u recounted the merits of hey raam –
        Would be nice to read your piece in hey raam …Thanx

  14. RajuJanak IdeaUnique Says:

    on a rather serious note: something very nasty is being cooked on the world front – there is a strong undercurrent of it everywhere – doesn’t matter if the stock markets are going up and up :-) es has touched 1500 and going still strong…..but hey! why bring stock market here? :-)

  15. I have no idea of what exactly these Muslims are objecting to in Kamal’s film. But one of the Muslim leaders, who was part of the group to which the actor had shown the movie, after it was cleared by the Censor Board, ranted on a TV channel on how the film showed a terrorist recite a prayer from the Koran, and chant Allaho Akbar before killing somebody.

    Pardon me if I’m wrong, but which Muslim terrorist has been known/seen to open a bottle of Scotch before detonating a bomb? Isn’t the indoctrination and brainwashing of gullible Muslims and their conversion to terrorism always done in the name of religion? Also, doesn’t Aamir Khan’s Fanaa, which was opposed in Gujarat and not by Muslims, also show the protagonist as a terrorist? Countless other Hindi films have had the same theme. When there were no protests against these films, why is Vishwaroopam being targeted? At the most, you can accuse Indian filmmakers of portraying stereotypical Muslims, but then Hindi cinema does the same with South Indians, and more particularly Tamils, speaking English with an atrocious accent. To my knowledge, there hasn’t been any vicious attempt to denigrate Islam as was done by Bacile who made the American video clip against the Prophet.

    http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/opinion/columns/rasheeda-bhagat/cultural-terror-takes-vishwaroopam/article4354150.ece?homepage=true

  16. @ SM—
    Im relieved to read your views on ‘hey raam’–its reassuring that someone shares the same adulation…on that film
    I will again share with you this review that i LOVED
    http://theseventhart.info/2008/06/20/hey-ram-an-analysis-part-220/
    Enjoy–note it comes in 20 chapters…
    sm—plz post your own review on hey raam (or do one if u havent since u seem to have understood the significance and multilayered dimnesions of this seminal work–thanx)

    ps–this review above does justice to the depth and magnitude of this work that ranks not only amongst indias best but as u said, one of the best films ive seen—
    More importantly it is one of the best efforts by a director who is also the lead actor and producer in the SAME project—-that underlines kamals overall competence
    Just on the basis of his direction alone here, i will rank this project as no less than any of manis work (if not the better)
    if one doesnt add the acting bits///

    @ anya, ann jo, sanjana, tats and others here –suggest u try out this review above –skim thru it if not the 20 chapters!!
    Dont know about others, but this was one film i learnt a lot about the cinematic medium. The film actually needs /deserves a companion guidebook to unravel it and this review is the best i came across–
    cheers

  17. thanx qalander–thats a nice take on ‘hey raam’
    Good points-Personally I found it less about ‘anti/pro hindu/muslim’ (whichever way one looks at it) but something deeper..
    Also the sheer mastery over the craft of acting and direction and both to those dizzying heights is what makes it stand apart

    I wanted to write about it but the above 20 chapters link has covered most of the metaphorical connotations/ sympbolisms at play here..
    “Which is to the film’s credit, and testimony to its multilayered complexity that yet retains its accessibility. One might love or loathe this film, be disturbed by it or be utterly seduced by Kamal’s vision, but such is the access it affords the viewer to what is above all a mindset, and that in turn accesses us, rendering the viewer vulnerable to Kamal’s directorial gaze, that it is impossible to remain unmoved in the face of this film”–well said and agree!

    ps—my other qualm is about the title of this film (& also his latest vishwaroopam)___the titles are restrictive and wrongly pigeon-hole these works into certain ‘tags’ (like historical, anti hindu/muslim, religious etc) while actually they cover a much wider scale and ambition…(havent seen VR yet)

    ps2–Whats your view on the recent vishwaroopam ‘controversy’ and the muslim stance that it is objectionable eg showing that there is terrorism in afghanistan !

    ps3–I know this statement wont be liked by some here but have to make it
    Have seen only limited works of both—but on the basis of whateveer ive seen—forget abojut acting (since that cant be compared) but direction wise—-
    Kamalahassan > Mani ratnam !!!

  18. Thank you for this write-up SM; while I haven’t seen the film (and am not likely to), the rather humdrum trailers meant that I’m not really surprised by anything here, in particular:

    “while it is not bad or even mediocre, it is that much worse thing – pointless.”

    To be frank I felt the same thing about Vettaiyaadu Vilaiyaadu, in the sense that of late there is this aspect to Kamal’s career where he does a completely “Hollywoody” kind of film, one that isn’t distinguished by any seriousness or intellectual heft (the way a Hey Ram or Virumaandi might be), but is “different” only in the sense that it is the sort of film not very often made in india (but made very often in America, and not an especially high-prestige genre there). So Menon’s film struck me as that sort of thing, as did, from the trailers, Vishwaroopam. Perhaps it is reflective of Kamal’s determination to “count” on a larger stage, to not always be buttonholed (as, rightly or wrongly, non-Hindi films often are) into the ghetto of “the regional” (more specifically, the ghetto of “authenticity”; i.e. the “national” is allowed to make an unmarked film, but “the regional” must first and foremost be authentically Tamil, Bengali, Malayalam, what-have-you)…whatever it is, can’t say this sort of effort interests me in the slightest, certainly not from the guy who could basically do just about anything in Tamil cinema.

  19. The Professor

    I had a professor (who is now terminally ill). Besides having an expcetional IQ (and countless publications et al) he had a certain knack–of excelling at whatever he put his hand in (pun intended)

    Besides being an all rounder, he was good looking as well and was good at ‘social skills’ as well. There were v few things he wasnt good at

    He didnt drive and loved to cycle. But when taunted about his lack of knowledge of cars and the engine talk, he once set about to learn about them. As usually happened, he disappeared/ withdrew for a few days.

    But then he ‘emerged’ !

    Now he knew not only about engines but seemed he had done a PhD on the acessories and other ancilliary topics

    He had numerous quirks and idiosyncracies and strange moody behavioral patterns

    About an year ago, I set about to view kamalahassans maiden sirectorial venture ( i maybe wrong but dont think he has directed many others or even if he has, not many–so doesnt matter)

    very rarely, I feel like standing up and applaud! I did that to kamalahassan
    He reminded me of my professor

    Both have this habit of taking all the compeition and puttinf them in a gunny bag and kicking their collective asses (obviuously not literally but metaphorically!)

    Just this week that professor died–he told me i had been his favorite student –not sure whether to be happy or sad in that grim moment!

  20. @ann jo–thanx for those thoughts–i agree with some of your criticism of KH
    KH has lately become a narcissistic actor and most of his works have a ‘look@me’ vibe. Infact he has ceased to play ‘normal roles’ or ‘normal guy’ anymore
    BUt i feel that when a person of certain calibre and ability gets ‘bored’ easily and needs to explore new vistas to stay motiviated.
    Also many of the roles he plays are something he can play (and others cannot and hence dont). So that criticism can only be relative.

    @ sm—sorry for hijacking your thread with my rant about my professor above….didnt meant to but it was spontaneous. (& had a certain parallel with KH)
    ps–Some people u miss more when not around…

    • BUt i feel that when a person of certain calibre and ability gets ‘bored’ easily and needs to explore new vistas to stay motiviated.
      Also many of the roles he plays are something he can play (and others cannot and hence dont). So that criticism can only be relative

      I agree. He has done every type of role possible and just like Alexander The Great said that the world is too small and he needs more to conquer, Kamal needs to experiment.
      That is the spirit that keeps people from becoming victims of alzhemir’s and other mental disorders. We just cannot measure him in terms of other stars or actors who are content with what is safe and comfortable.

      • yeah sanju–good point there
        btw hav also skimmed thru some pretty ordinary work by kamal that keeps cropping up, i guess–but thats with every perfomer with a long career…

        ps–who else is getting snowed under…by work & snow!

  21. The movie is pretty average fare. And I think it is uneven in handling. At places it has masala treatment and at places it is realistic and little dark. I saw Hindi version but I think any langauge would have worked. Inspite of shortcomings, I will prefer it to mindless Race2.

  22. Now that several people have seen this film (and many more have moved on to newer releases :) ) I want to ask a couple of spoilery questions.

    ****SPOILERS*****

    1. In the scene where Kamal is being interrogated by the FBI guy, he says at one point, “Look, if you’ll just let me use my cell phone to make a call, I can clear everything up for you.” And the FBI guy yells, “You reach for anything and you’re dead!” or words to that effect. When I heard Kamal’s line, I was immediately reminded of the news report of his detention by U.S. immigration (when he was traveling from Canada to the U.S., possibly after a film festival), where he is quoted as saying the exact same thing to the immigration guys. That is, in the news article, Kamal is quoted as saying, “They took away my cell phone. I told them if they would just let me make one phone call, they could talk to the people who invited me, and prove who I was, but they refused to give it to me.” Again this is a paraphrase of his quote. I wondered if he was using that detention experience to write this scene. It’s not a major insight, just an interesting sidelight that can add resonance to the scene.

    2. My other question has to do with the ultimate ending and the title of the film. Why exactly is it called “Viswaroopam?” Is it referring to Kamal’s character, who shows his “Viswaroopam” by the end, to save New York from the terrorists? Though actually it’s his wife who prevents the bomb from detonating (I won’t get into the science of that :) ). So it’s a kind of wimpy Viswaroopam. :) Or is it some kind of feeble play on Kamal’s earlier name, Vishwanathan? But, since that is shown to be a nom de guerre, and his real name Wizwan Ahmed Kashmiri (and can it get any more pandering than that, and why would a Kashmiri be a native Tamilian? But I digress), this explanation won’t wash, either. Unless in part 2 we find out that he really was Vishwanathan all along, and the Muslim name is also assumed. Or is the term “Viswaroopam” referring to the way terrorism has wrapped its tentacles around the globe? This would be inverting the meaning of Viswaroopam, but at least it would be an interesting inversion. The trouble with this interpretation is that we haven’t actually been shown any “global” nature of the terrorists in question, since, no matter that their activities take place in three countries (there is the fleeting reference to a bombing in Tamil Nadu), it’s basically the same four guys doing the dirty work in all places, and not any kind of global network. So, why Viswaroopam? Any takers to explain this?

    ******END SPOILERS******

    If Kamal wanted to make a “global” film on terrorism that would be of interest to audiences in countries outside of India, and make it in Tamil, I wonder why he didn’t make it on the LTTE, since there are many Tamil refugees from Sri Lanka in several European countries and Canada, some of whom are still suspected of being active terrorists. But I guess then there’s no way the film could even have been made, never mind being banned before release. So from this point of view having Muslim terrorists in Afghanistan was really a much “safer” choice for him, though the LTTE film would have been a much more logical choice, and would at least have had the virtue of novelty of subject on the international arena.

    • I am not sure why they needed to show FBI so inept. Once FBI agents at our doorsteps asking about neighbor and my wife said they looked smart, well dressed and talked nicely
      Even in English Vinglish, Amitabh and coffee place scenes were jarring

      • Yes, I agree. These kinds of scenes (as well as depictions of “racist” Britons in films set in the UK) are really more about Indians’ sense of inferiority about themselves, rather than an accurate depiction of foreigners and their prejudices.

        On the FBI, though, while it has many well-trained agents, it has its share of inept ones as well. I don’t know if you saw Dasavatharam, but in that, in the early portions, Kamal is running around with this phial of deadly poison that will wipe out the entire world’s population, while the bad guys are chasing him to get it away from him, and every time he manages to escape, he keeps saying, “This is the world’s most deadly poison! I must get this to the FBI!” and I kept thinking, “Yeah, you’ll get it to the FBI, and then what? They’ll probably lose it.” :)

    • There is no difference between extremist organisations of any name. They all have links with one another in getting arms, support and other things. You will be surprised to know that hindu and muslim extremists support each other covertly. Because extremists cant tolerate true democracy, tolerance and respect for other views.

      • It’s not about Hindu and Muslim, and in any case, the LTTE is hardly a “Hindu” organization. It’s unfortunate that you seem to only see things through this prism, because you seem to have entirely missed the point I was making. It’s about having a terrorist organization whose members would naturally speak in Tamil, instead of coming up with tortuous explanations of why Al Qaeda members in Afghanistan are speaking in Tamil.

        • There is a possibility as al queda has penetrated India quite deeply in some areas of India. The people dont want to speak about it openly.
          As for my taking names of religions, it is done to bring transparency because we just cannot hide behind political correctness all the time.

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