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Shudh Desi Romance Outscores Zanjeer Easily
Thursday 6th September 2013 13.00 IST
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Shudh Desi Romance has outscored Zanjeer easily as it opened better and the gap is wider in the afternoon shows as Shudh Desi Romance improves at multiplexes where opening collections were low and holds where it started better.
Zanjeer started lower than Shudh Desi Romance and the gap is widening. It could be that Shudh Desi Romance has double the collections of Zanjeer on day one despite showing on less screens.
The Telugu version of Zanjeer named Thoofan has opened better in Nizam/Andhra but the way it is going there will no circuit where Zanjeer will be ahead at the end of they day. Even a mass circuit like Bihar should see Shudh Desi Romance getting the upper hand by the end of they day.
Chennai Express 206 Cr In Four Weeks Madras Cafe 41 Cr In Two Weeks
Thursday 6th September 2013 10.30 IST
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Chennai Express has taken its total to 206 crore nett in for weeks and is likely to add another 2 crore nett to have an approx finish of 208 crore nett. The figures have beaten the previous record holder 3 Idiots by around 3%. The distributor share of the film will be 115 crore which will be 8.50 crore better than the previous record holder Ek Tha Tiger.
Madras Cafe collected around 8.25 crore nett in week two taking its total to 41 crore nett. The film will finish just a bit higher than Vicky Donor, a film from the same team released last year but with much lower costs than Madras Cafe. The four big films in August are set to finish with following totals.
Chennai Express – 208 crore
Once Upon A Time In Mumbai Dobaara! – 60 crore
Madras Cafe – 44 crore
Satyagraha 58-60 crore
The business of Chennai Express is more than 40 crore higher than the other three August releases combined.
Funny how they don’t talk about how beating 3I by 3% 4 years out ought not to mean as much. On the other hand they were quick to point out with Satyagraha how the opening was in the Rajneeti range 2 years or so after that film!
The last line is similarly gratuitous. You could take any 150 or 200 crore grosser and say it’s done more than x other releases combined. what does this mean?! I don’t remember them saying that Ghajini was x crores ahead of all Dec releases that year. It was 40 crores or so ahead of RNBDJ for instance.
It means SRK is back BABY !
Soon they will write articles on how SRK broke the record appearance fee at weddings!
Time for SRK fans to rejoice…maybe get married and put in an application for him to dance at the wedding!
Basically it means you have to deal with SRK for at least 5 more years, he isn’t gong anywhere.
The problem is not us dealing with SRK, it is how SRK deals with himself and his greying stuff..
Look at him literally pleading with his fans at every smart-alecky liner to continue praising him and applauding..there is something in life — that too at the position that he is — called commanding respect and not demanding it..
At least when he was young, he could have claimed the ‘arrogance’ of youth to explain such behavior..but at the ripe old age of 47, well, he still keeps repeating the ‘Delhi-walla hoon’ crap that he has copy-righted all his years in Bombay..
But if anybody wants to still say that this is confidence and not arrogance, hey, go for it..it is just what I felt personally..I have rarely been concerned about what actors do outside of film-sets, but over the course of years, I happen to prefer the over-humility of AB to the self-styled, irritating arrogance of this guy..
And basically, these interviews prove the point further for me at least that he is a far better performer off-screen than he has ever been on-screen..
Everybody has their own opinion on how they see things. I see it differently.
Satyagraha Has Poor First Week
Thursday 6th September 2013 09.30 IST
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A decent weekend turned into a poor week for Satyagraha as it dropped badly from Monday onwards. The film collected 48 crore nett approx in its first week after a 34 crore nett total over the weeeknd.
The figures are similar to Once Upon A Time In Mumbai Dobaara! which collected 48.50 crore nett in its first seven days. The film should have gone above 50 crore nett if it showed just normal trending over the weekdays.
The film will drop badly in second week due to non appreciation and two new well publicised releases (Shudh Desi Romance and Zanjeer) and final total for the film will not be much more than 60 crore nett.
Saw Satyagraha…I don’t even know why I bother with Prakash Jha films, extremely boring. But Amitabh is Amitabh, great as usual. We don’t have directors that can do justice to this guy.
I’m going to see it tomorrow but flying in with low expectations. Good to hear on Bachchan and on your last line here, amen!
I truly doubt theaters in US will still be showing SATYAGRAHA!!!! Hope you don’t end up watching ZANJEER re-molested!!!
It’s actually playing through the weekend for sure here…
Don’t know why Zanjeer was remade….thought it was an average film elevated by extraordinary performances from Amitabh and Pran.
I like it a lot, it’s not Deewar or Trishul or something but it has a certain mood to it, a certain angst that I have a great weakness for. But yes it’s not one of my absolute favorite Bachchan films.
yes the one closest to me isn’t showing it. Even in the city the usual one isn’t screening it.
Haven’t seen the original zanjeer so this ‘lakhiaised’ zanjeer is out of the question !!!!
Never foind the original zanjeer remotely interesting enuf to watc (barring the couple of scenes that are flashed around!)
The only thing good about the new zanjeer should be the Priyanka number ‘mumbai he hero’ where she dons cop hot-pants and shows some good steps…
Rest is bullcrap!!!!
I’m surprised Satyam u are interested in it!!
And if u end up seeing the new zanjeer (and u didn’t see satyagraha!) that will be a shame!!
Jha at his worst is zeons above the lahkia types…
Who said I’m watching the new Zanjeer?
Actually barring the usual suspects bacchan films like deewar, trishul, khaki, black, the bachchan films I really like are not the usual ones that people adore.
Not a fan of Prakash Mehra brand (desais better but not by much)…
Have some quirky tastes (even in bachchan films!)
My very favorite half dozen or so Bachchan films include Mili and Jurmana. Reasonably sure no one is quite as quirky as this!
Mili is for sure one of his most underrated performances.
can’t say I’m surprised with your thoughts here on Jha’s films. Good to know that Bachchan is worthwhile even if and you probably know I have an even higher bar on him! Oddly I am likely to be kinder on Jha than Bachchan. Didn’t mind Aarakshan, found Rajneeti pretty enjoyable. Prefer Gangajal over both. Even Apharan was enjoyable. Yes politically his films are often a mess but can’t say he’s the worst narrator otherwise. On Bachchan this is my problem with a great deal of his contemporary work and I’ve said as much on his blog. leaving aside the choices and so forth when it comes to his pure performance he’s obviously light years ahead of everyone else even on a weak day. But that’s a poor standard. He should be judged by his own lofty standards. And here when it’s about Khakee or Dev or Aks or even Black or Paa (the latter two efforts that I might find impressive for reasons entirely different from the terms on which he’s been celebrated) or for that matter even lesser films where I might like I’m to varying degrees I’m happy or at least ok with his outings. But if it’s par for the course stuff I think he’s physically still a giant and obviously someone who commands attention the way none of his younger peers can. This is however very different from an ‘interesting’ performance judged by his highest standards. In other words even his nothing 80s films where he was doing the same thing for the 100th time he was able to evoke a spontaneity and brilliance and really unpredictability. So it ought not to have seemed fresh but it did. In more contemporary times though it’s impressive but not unpredictable. I could forgive this in a lesser actor but not with someone of his pre-eminence. In general I don’t like predictable actors at any any of the spectrum. This is what I never liked about Dilip Kapoor at least after his very early days. You could see the gesture or the pause or whatever coming a mile away! Bachchan was never like that and he still isn’t but he can be predictable by his own standards. For instance most people love his Sarkar act. I don’t. He’s again physically awesome here, the gaze if you will is incredible, even if again in later age there is something a bit ‘fascist’ about this whereas when younger his eyes and gaze were always equally arresting without being ‘authoritarian’. Not surprisingly a new India that is erotically invested in such authoritarian figures particularly loved him in Sarkar. And as an aside I should add that Abhishek not being in this mould disappoints people including fans (here too the last bit of Sarkar or the more authoritarian portions of Guru appealed most to people.. because today Bachchan is seen primarily through that lens.. this is a completely weak, even false misreading of him.. I once advanced the idea that there is almost no great film of Bachchan where we do not see real vulnerability from him and even more precisely ‘tears’. In any case Bachchan with his incredible physical gifts, really unparalleled ones even at his age, is always formidable as a screen presence, overwhelming even, but I often miss the subtle performer that he can be. Admittedly age often dims these instincts even in the greatest stars. So even when they’re fine they cannot be fine judged by their own younger or peak standards. What is gained by way of experience is also lost by way of institutionalization and the gesture repeated far too often over decades. Perhaps it is unnatural to expect this but there’s no reason that one should forget those greater heights. Of course this doesn’t mean that he can in any way be compared with anyone in the present though at his very best I’d take Abhishek (which is to say the actor of DMD or BM or some other efforts) over the father (including by the way in Sarkar Raj) in most of his contemporary guises.
“Admittedly age often dims these instincts even in the greatest stars. So even when they’re fine they cannot be fine judged by their own younger or peak standards. What is gained by way of experience is also lost by way of institutionalization and the gesture repeated far too often over decades. Perhaps it is unnatural to expect this but there’s no reason that one should forget those greater heights.”
One only needs to have been awake to Robert De Niro’s career from the beginning to the current phase to know this is to be true. But this is also only true for stars who have remained relevant within their industries over time. The ones who haven’t pop up every now and then and score points because they haven’t had the burden of presence over the years, and appear fresher when they do occasionally show up.
agreed and that’s a valuable addition to this discussion..
IMO Amitabh has still managed to retain much of his freshness, and appears to be a very eager actor. Something SRK claims in his interviews quite often but never shows in his perfomances.
And De Niro is a different matter altogether, I really want Scorsese to make a film with him soon. Really like Di Caprio but even I am tired of their combo.
Bachchan has energy to burn, and, (this is connected to what Satyam says) he really shames even actors far younger than him in this sense. But like De Niro, there’s a certain amount of exposure, a certain amount of familiarity that can erode the (any) icon’s sheen. De Niro is a tad different in that he seems very genuinely checked out in a lot of his movies over the last two decades. The last great performance of his was in Heat way back in 1995. He’s been enjoyable in certain parts, effective in an overall sense, but never really touched the level of his peak phase since then. Bachchan, on the other hand, while dealing with De Niro’s problem in that he’s not working with directors who can coax the best work out of him, still has the fire. This is something intangible, something that can only be sensed in the least explicable ways. So your sense that he needs to work with directors that can really give him material deserving of his gifts is absolutely right because if he does marvelously with the middling stuff, it bolsters ones confidence of what might be in store were he to get a good script with a good role. For De Niro though, short of a Scorsese reunion (which is always the exception to the rule for anyone!) I don’t feel he’s quite going to deliver in the same way. Last year when he had The Silver Linings Playbook, to see/hear all that acclaim plus the Oscar nomination you would think he just did another Raging Bull, but that performance is little more than an effective character turn, far better than what he’d been doing for a good stretch before it, but hardly something on par with his best work. But one could sense in the critical community a real push to get behind De Niro in what came off like a breath of fresh air considering some of what he’d done in the last several years preceding it. And you can’t really blame them when they’re campaigning for an icon as vital to the history of his medium as De Niro has been.
Apharan and Rajneeti were entertaining but Aarakshan and Satyagraha are absolutely boring. Jha takes these great subjects and does absolutely nothing with them. To me that’s worse than making insubstantial YJHD-type films.
i was ok with Aarakshan, i wasn’t bored by it and thought Amitabh absolutely owned the movie. Satyagraha was just torture, yes bachchan was good, but his performance (or character) was boring. it did not elevate the movie IMO. i might be spoiled by bachchan and his acting prowess but watching him in satyagraha was just “been there seen that” type of feeling for me.
i agree on your Jha take, the guy takes interesting subjects and does nothing with them. his heart is in the right place but there is no substance to his movies.
Yes..caught it on wednesday in the DC area..quite surprised to see around 20 people in the theater..initially was planning to enter with a beer crate since there would be but me and Prakash Jha’s film!! Of course, I was the ‘youngest’ in the audience so that speaks volumes for the ‘target ‘ audience..’
Actually it is not as bad as it is made out to be..maybe because I never had the ‘positive’ light shining on in my life like Z to expect 150 crores from a film of this type..that too with Jha proving with every successive product of his that he is starting to be to politics/activism what Bhandarkar is to gays and celebrities..
Turned out to be simplistic but there are some good scenes as to how ‘babudom’ still works in India. The first half is definitely arresting; it is the second half that kind of plods (I think this is better than AARAKHSAN’s second half where there is an abominable lack of focus..)
And seriously, AB is simply superb here. He is saddled with a one dimensional role but boy does he ever let it burden him? And yes, this is hardly Hazare. This is Gandhi wanting to be reincarnated; what with the glasses, to AB uttering HEY RAM, to him walking with Amrita’s and Kareena’s shoulders for support. Hell, there is even a reference to the iconic scene from Attenborough’s Gandhi where Om Puri throws a half burnt roti at Gandhi to break his fast..
But what is troubling is how Jha doesn’t bother to show some ‘therav’ in scenes – in scenes that have emotional potential, he doesn’t linger on – he simply yaks the camera out as though he just wants to move on!! This does immense injustice to actors like AB or to an extent Devgn who can do magic with their eyes and silence.
This is a triumph for AB qualitatively; merely because of the fact that he can bring out so much out of a character that appears to be so similar to the roles in AARAKSHAN and DEV. Throughout film history, it is pretty clear that roles that clarify a character as moralistic and upright are rarely lapped up by the audience – because on the surface, they appear too naive and text-bookish. An actor of the stature of Nasser complained that his main grouse with DEV was that an actor infinitely superior to AB (Puri) was made to be the communal guy while an inferior actor was made the conscience-keeper! (of course, Nasser is always clouded with complex when it comes to AB, but still, one wonders if a veteran like Naseer can say such things what would the public say?) So as per him, he would have it the other way round!!
The commonality remains fight for justice – but how AB has successfully transformed from an angst-ridden youth seeking one to an old man seeking one is truly praise-worthy. In a way, I am wondering if he has truly come a full circle with regard to his angry young man roles to the angry but dignified and composed old man. For an AB fan, it is really interesting and difficult to ignore analyzing the path of this actor from an emergency-clamped India of ’70s to the utter-lack of social conscience in an India trying to ‘shine’ in a capitalistic model of governance and sustenance..
I have a feeling that Satyagraha is less cluttered than Rajneeti and more focussed.
Satyagraha has done decent business at the box office. After a good weekend, it hung on through the weekdays and brought home more moolah. In the process, it managed to cross the 50 crore mark and also managed to surpass the 54 crore first week total of Raajneeti. Standing at 55 crore, the film has now enjoyed the highest ever opening week collections for a Prakash Jha film.
Satyam, is there an edit in the code which prevents a post with certain words in it?
are you referring to comments or actual posts?
so the comment that i just posted on Satyagraha above wont post if I put word K*o*i*m*o*i in it. It happened couple times yesterday too.
weird, let me check.
it also won’t post if i put it’s link
Maybe the site rejects links to unexplainable sources
Nah, that’s not it, otherwise your comments would be blocked
I hope you can take joke just like how you like to give joke.
It had gone into spam. I restored it, then saw you had put it up anyway so removed it.
On the Satygraha box office the first week on its own is not bad at all for a subject of this kind. However if it doesn’t add much to this or doesn’t trend relatively decently (weekdays were stable at the lower end) it would be an overall disappointment. Better than Aarakshan of course but still not good enough. The problem is most films these days make more of their gross in the first week or so. Even the biggest grossers do disproportionately in that period. So if you don’t get some serious numbers rolling at the outset you’re at a big disadvantage, specially with a political film. Now of course in terms of trending even going from 48-55 (crores depending on who you believe) to 65-70 is hardly worse than going from 70 to 100 or 110 which is what most 100 crore grossers did and were celebrated for. In fact this is the very ratio that films like LAK or APKGK and so on displayed when they were called hits. They all went from about 40-45 to about 65. Whether one believes the film should have opened bigger or not once it did at that level the rest of comparison is certainly a fair one. I don’t think an 80-90 crore expectation or even something bit higher was a completely unfair one here but without a younger hot pair it’s just hard to get this sort of subject off to a great start. You get solid, not fantastic which then means you need terrific WOM to make up for the gap and even then you probably wouldn’t do much more than 100. Consider this. Bol Bachchan did about 70 in week 1. Devgan was common to both films. Abhishek was at his absolute lowest box office point then. The film nonetheless had that title, he was at the center of all the advertising with the double and so on. In other words people knew what they were going to get here. No huge actress here. The film had a good start but again hardly extraordinary. Nonetheless because of the genre it still got to that number. With Abhishek in a stronger position (since Devgan was already strong) the film could only have opened better. This is the point I often make. You can have relatively weaker stars (whether in general or at that point) in strong genres or very strong stars in relatively weaker genres and get to good or very good initials. It’s hard to do so when the genres are relatively weak and the stars are too. So Devgan for instance is not strong in a political subject (in the box office sense) the way he is doing Singham. for all this a greater gross was possible for Satyagraha. It just would have required a much stronger film or a younger pair (as in Rajneeti) and even then it would have done a lot more but still not necessarily in an absolute sense. Rajneeti and ZNMD opened similarly and trended similarly (both rather well actually, both roughly doubled their week 1 which is rare these days). Both results were of course very good. However Rajneeti was doing well in all kinds of centers while ZNMD was relying just on multiplexes (there was the Singham competition but I doubt there was very much overlap between the two films to begin with). So the pure multiplex film did as much as the more universal sort. Even with Ranbir-Katrina added to the mix, even with a good initial and good trending there was a relative ceiling to that film. From this perspective then the Satyagraha gross whether disappointing or not isn’t surprising. Those who offer other analogies are just off the mark.
agreed with you…The only issue is that the ratio of 48 to 65 for Satyagraha is the weekend to lifetime ratio whereas for LAK and APKGK is the 1st week to lifetime ratio.
My bad…even Satyagraha is the week to lifetime ratio…
Shudh desi romance— just saw its promo —’ati random’ something..
This film should do well & better than expected imo
I won’t be surprised if it crosses satyagraha and even closes in on towards 100 crores…
Got some dollies for the young segment….
And wannabe budding living-in enthusiasts will lap it
For eg couldn’t get any company to watch satyagraha( though wont have watched it even if I had got it!) but there are enuf taker(s) for SDR ….but won’t see either….
.( though parineeti is getting on my nerves a bit with that hyper bubbly small town gal act & the other girl looks like a ‘fan’ than a star!)
Sense SDR will do well from the first promo I saw..–may cross satygraha also
The reviews are mixed and they are saying the second half is repetitive. Seems to be poorman’s CE.
I feel sorry for Priyanka chopra that she has to face competition from her cousin and the latter’s film seems to be winning.
I think PC needs some coffee!
“I think PC needs some coffee!”
Not sure about PC, but seems u r missing my koffee, sanju
Ps : narrowly escaped having to watch SDR (shush desi romance)
Do feel it will do well though ( relative to the small star cast)
Sanju: y dont u check out SDR….
& Folks tell us how SDR is….
@ sanju & maggie–
Check out the SDR promo–btw What’s meant by ‘Baaton waale’ and ‘haathon waale’ ….
Ps: I suspect Amy ‘khan’ always checks these movies FDFS –she will give us the inside info
I just got back from watching the film, and I found it very enjoyable; I’d definitely reccomendation it to anybody who enjoys rom-coms.
Atypically for Bollywood, it manages to portray casual, youthful relationships without hitting you over the head with how rebellious and unconventional its lead characters are or making you cringe with try-hard attempts at Westernized coolth. And the film maintained a charming, light-hearted tone for its entire duration; even though there was heartbreak aplenty, none of it involved overwrought histrionics and larger-than-life acts of sacrifice. (I only wish that there were fewer of those painfully awkward kisses, and less posturing with the cigarettes).
I liked its pragmatic yet romantic take on love, which gave in to neither cynicism nor saccharine idealism. I also really appreciated that the ‘modern’ female lead was not demonised in any way, and that the ‘traditional’ female lead was not portrayed as a helpless martyr.
Oh, and Sushant Singh Rajput is the most attractive new Hindi hero in a long, long time.
Thanx for the review Amy –will read properly shortly…
As I suspected (& predicted) from the promo –this should be a good flick–will cross satyagraha and even close onto 100crores.
Some friends checked it out yesterday –they loved it (esp the chicks)
Ps: Amy: what’s the cinema occupancy like — are the halls full-ish…
Yeah the male lead looks earnest and endearing–not sure of the female leads
Parineeti seems to have done well but think she is getting repetitive?
Hmmm read some reviews now –& Amy’s reviews were better than some ‘professional’ reviews…
Btw Amy ‘khan’ — what’s this ‘baatonwaale’ & ‘haathonwaale’?
Lemme help this small film SDR a bit –there u go–it should do atleast 50 crores or more now…
A good track showing the ‘wannabe live-in enthusiasts’ apparently proflierating in small town India …
Ps: don’t find these ‘heroines’ interesting –won’t see this one BUT
Anyhow hope the film does a somwhat reasonable ‘job£
This is ROFLOL review from Baja Sen..at least he has provided us with some entertainment here..especially the iconic chair-kicking scene..also, Sher Khan here enjoys playstation with Vijay!!! Also, Teja and Mona always carry Viagara packets when they are together..
No wonder ‘purists’ like me run a 1000 miles away from remakes..
Raja Sen feels Apoorva Lakhia’s Zanjeer is an unwarranted, atrocious remake.
Zanjeer was never a particularly great film. Sure, it had Amitabh Bachchan at his most primal, all flammable eyes and sincerely-furious baritone.
And it had Pran, who brought dignity and warmth to the proceedings. It had dialogue that seared the ear, forged hot by master blacksmiths Salim-Javed. And, like all Prakash Mehra films, the music was sensational. These are what makes it a film we can watch over and over and over, with considerable awe.
The new Zanjeer, directed by Apoorva Lakhia, has none of these things. Least of all the hero.
Ram Charan makes his Hindi film debut with this Bachchan remake, and my heart goes out to his fans who will have to sit through this tediously trashy film.
To paraphrase an unforgettable Indian movie character who shares a name with this new hero: Teja tum ho, marks idhar hain — alas, it isn’t anywhere close to a passing grade, son. You shouldn’t have bloody tried.
The writing is bafflingly bad. “Investigations start karo,” says the hero, a second before cops start whacking everyone in sight. At some point a character launches into a bizarre tirade against the Discovery Channel, which is apparently the channel of choice for the car-thieves demographic. A bawdy joke clearly written in English about one’s, um, “member” is translated sloppily into “mere mehmaan”, and is soon followed up by an offensively bad fellatio joke.
And yet all this excruciating slop is preferable to when they use the original lines.
Because they go right ahead and do their take on that most iconic of scenes, the one where Amitabh Bachchan kicks the chair out from under Pran and — words scorching, eyes blazing — ordering him to stay standing, informs him what a police station is not.
Making Ram Charan play out this scene with Sanjay Dutt as Sher Khan is a brazenly stupid move, as if the makers of this enterprise lost all interest and decided to flaunt their utter incompetence with fanfare.
Dutt ambles toward a chair, and Ram — who stares at it before kicking it — does so with a perfunctory scowl, the kind reserved for hanging up the phone after a wrong number. The chair itself is an office chair with wheels, so instead of flying violently across the station, this too perambulates blithely out of the screen. It’s all casually catastrophic.
The words “Sanjay Dutt as Sher Khan” might have struck fear into some of your hearts, and I’m here to reassure you that the result is exactly as woebegone as it sounds. Dutt sleepwalks through Pran’s iconic role, looking demented during the Yaari hai imaan dance and lazy the rest of the time, even during fight scenes.
At one point he beats away assailants like they were errant pinatas, and at another — during his big, crucial fight scene with Ram Charan — he and his rival look too physically drained to square off against each other, like Street Fighter ran out of batteries.
A lame fight is apparently what passes for male bonding in the Lakhia universe, and a few scenes later both of them are playing car-racing games on a Playstation. Dutt, if only to provide us with a tragic metaphor, continues to grapple violently with his controller, mashing the buttons even though his car has already crashed and burned.
Whenever Dutt appears on screen, the background score switches to that of an operatic crescendo, like a rejected cut of something that’d play behind an Old Spice commercial. Background score man Amar “BringYourEarplugs” Mohile has a blast in this film, having made three or four music cues — others include an Inception-y blare, and a Mission Impossible riff — and clicking through them with high-volume recklessness, without care or nuance.
It’s the stuff of particularly loud nightmares, this.
But even the ear-pillaging Mohile shuts up for the superloud heroine. The only positive from Priyanka Chopra’s performance in this film is that she hasn’t dragged in Pitbull.
She plays a hyper-talkative bimbette — in her words, a “simple NRI ladki” — who talks nineteen to the dozen but, forget about matching up to Jaya Bachchan from the original, she serves only to show us how tough it must have been for Kareena Kapoor to pull off Poo.
Chopra’s character, Mala, is a moron who mistakes Stockholm Syndrome for pyaar. I didn’t think it was possible to bring smugness into a giggle, but Chopra — made of plastic, so fantastic — looks to be giggling at the fact that she can giggle.
And then there’s Ram Charan, a cop so tough he wears only two inscrutable expressions. He struts around trying to look hardcore, but clearly there is a reason why it takes someone like Salman Khan to make a stupid actioner work.
This new boy has zero screen presence, possibly worsened by the Hindi dubbing, and taking on one of Bachchan’s Vijays is particularly suicidal. When the film mercifully ends, some remixed song has the gall to play Bachchan’s voice saying that “yeh police station hai” line, which seems particularly cruel to young, unimpressive Ram.
That voice just puts into perspective how simian this new hero has appeared in this unwarranted, atrocious remake — and we shouldn’t monkey around with Amitabh.
Rediff Rating: ZERO stars
The action and the visuals are not OTT, and will not give you a headache. The costumes are decent, and the production design took some effort (it shows). Watch out for the slum sequence in which Vijay drives through houses and shanties – it is shot very well, and the cinematography is excellent. The music is nothing much to write home about, though.
Even if you are a die-hard Pran or Amitabh Bachchan fan, and even if the idea of a remake seems sacrilegious to you, we still suggest that you check out the new Zanjeer. It has an identity of its own, even while it tries not to impose too much original thought on you. Watch it – you may have some fun.
I dont know why the link I am posting is not appearing here.
fixed it. somehow one link comments are going to spam today.
there is another review in the same site on Thoofan, the telugu version of Zanjeer which is more believable.
Last week i was joking with someone that this week Amitabh film (Satyagrah) is going to flop and next week Amitabh’s film Remake will flop. Sad both come true. Though i am happy about Satyagrah has tanked. No..No it is nothing to do with Amitabh. 2 reason of my grouse is.
1- Despite taking heavily from Anna movement Prakash Jha denied it till the last. I mean if you have taken something from someone then what’s wrong to admit it. I belive whatever buisness this film has done there is a heavy contribution by Aam Aadmi Party (AAP) members who rushed to the theatre in the intial days to watch the film.
2- This is the second time Prakash Jha took Ajay Devgan as granted. First in Rajneeti and now in Satyagrah. Jha gave Ajay half baked role. WTF. Ajay trust him that doesn’t mean you should breach the trust.
I am sad about Satyagrah but happy that Zanjeer will flop.This will atleast put an end to Bachchan remakes.I wonder how these senseless people are thinking of making such B-grade remakes of old classics.If you want to remake any old film then make some quality product.
on the contrary its opposite to logic trying to give spin but without factual knowledge on ground:
jha made gangajal and apharan when lalu’s misrule in bihar was at peak though its other thing subsequent government rewarded him where he now owns even multiplex in patna
assembly election is round the corner is in delhi this year itself and satyagrah will give free publicity to arvind kejriwal..he may form alliance with bjp after delhi 2013
OK Enough about Satyagrah. Here is 2 question for all the members specially Bachchan Fans
1- I think Amitabh is doing so much hard work even in this age because Abhishek hasn’t got that much success. What do you think ?
2- For me Amitabh means Yash Chopra Film. Whenever anyone say Amitabh i think
Deewar>>>>>Kala Pathar> Trishul. Then there are others like Don, Saudagar and some more
What you say.
for me its Sholay, Abhimaan, Don, Saudagar, Chupke Chupke, Anand etc.
Amitabh Bachchan is much more than just Yash Chopra.
my top fave:
1. Sholay (this was the first hindi movie i ever saw)
5. Kala Pathar
11. Namak Halaal
12. Gehri Chal
14. Mr. Natwarlal
so damn hard to keep it to just 15…lol.
Amitabh means Amitabh fims … And yash Chopra means Amitabh films, Manmohan Desai means Amitabh film, Prakash Mehra means Amitabh film, Mukul Anand means Amitabh film, Rakesh Kumar means Amitabh films, Chandra Barot means Amitabh films, Ramesh Sippy means Amitabh films, Tinu Anand means Amitabh films … and so on
My top 40 Amitabh films without any order
. Amar Akbar Anthony
. Mukaddar Ka Sikandar
. Namak Halaal
. Mr Natwarlal
. Do aur do paanch
. Akhree rasta
. Satte Pe Satta
. Kala Pathar
. Khuda Gawah
. Namak Haraam
. Kabhi kabhi
. The Great Gambler
@ bachchan fans/ old BO experts
Were Bachchan’s movies universal, meaning were they watched by people of all ages and appealed to people of all socio/economic backgrounds like raj kapoor movies
Bachchan was the most universal box office star in the history of Hindi cinema. No one else is even close. Beyond this I’ve long believed in ways that I am not going to lay out here once again that he is simply one of the most influential public figures in the history of the independent nation-state once you take out probably 2-3 extremely iconic political figures.
I am happy that i am proving right. When Sachin announced his retirement from oneday cricket i said He passed his sale by date and for playing personnel records he letdown his fans and now same can be said about his test carrear. Just read Harsha bhogle’s this article and comments on it.
B.O. update: ‘Shuddh Desi Romance’ takes a big lead over ‘Zanjeer’!
By Taran Adarsh, September 6, 2013 – 15:55 IST
SHUDDH DESI ROMANCE embarked on a superb better start, much bigger than ZANJEER at plexes of major centres. Targeted at the youth, SHUDDH DESI ROMANCE attracted its target audience — the youth — in hordes, thus sidelining ZANJEER at several stations. However, ZANJEER has had a wide release and caters to the single screen audience and in the mass-dominated belt specially, the response was better.
SHUDDH DESI ROMANCE has a jump start on Friday with Rs. 6.45 crores. However, ZANJEER has a poor start and collects Rs. 3.44 crores on Friday.
Shudh Desi Romance Does Well On Day One
Saturday 7th September 2013 11.30 IST
Boxofficeindia.Com Trade Network
Shudh Desi Romance did well on day one collecting around 6-6.25 crore nett. The film did very well in Delhi/UP, East Punjab and Rajasthan while other areas were lower comparatively when compared with these circuits but still good overall.
The opening day number is a very good number for such a film which has a medium budget and a cast which does not have much face value. The film has mainly a multiplex release with around 1100 screens in total.
Shudh Desi Romance will show Saturday growth though remains to be seen how much and then come out with a healthy weekend which is sure to go over 20 crore nett.
Zanjeer First Day Business
Saturday 7th September 2013 11.30 IST
Boxofficeindia.Com Trade Network
Zanjeer did poorly on day one as it collected around 3 crore nett on day one not including the business from its Telugu version Thoofan.
The film was dull all over with collections in Delhi and Punjab being just awful. Maharashtra fared best for the film but was still very low.
The Hindi version of the film has no chance and is a disaster as it can’t go anywhere from such a low starting point. It will be up to its Telugu version Thoofan to give it the makers some returns though considering how bad the Hindi version it will be a surprise if the Telugu version sustains in long run.
taran adarsh @taran_adarsh 2h
Lots of wrong figures floating around for #Thoofan, the Telugu version of #Zanjeer. Just posting the right figures. It’s done FAB biz there.
yeah never bought the bull story BOI were peddling about Shuddh Desi opening better than this even in Nizam. Gimme a break! It might not do well eventually based on the kind of film it is but that’s a different matter.
The opening of SDR was better than zanjeer in nizam but toofan opened better than SDR as Telugu version had more theaters. But the movie ran into rough weather and had to be stopped screening in many places in seemandra etc.
yes some of that political trouble was expected.
from Taran again (obviously this is a huge opening):
Drop of 90%, from not a high total of first day. This one is a goner.
Jha needs to change genre for his next.
Satyagraha is a disaster …90% drop…
Wiki says budget is 75 crore…Aur banao film Bachhan ko lekar lead role mein…
By no stretch can Satyagraha be considered a disaster. Nonetheless we’ll have that discussion once we finish accounting for Ra One’s losses. We’re trying to get through this as fast as we can but the red ink isn’t getting exhausted. I just watched Riddick today so I was once again reminded of things that crawl out of the earth and crawl back in!
“I was once again reminded of things that crawl out of the earth and crawl back in!”
With similar kind of jokes…SRK is called Arrogant and whatnot…
and ppl blame SRK fans
Oh I’m not joking, merely being painfully honest about some of SRK’s fans..
BTW u forgot Ra one had overseas collections…unfortunately Satyagraha did nothing there…
yeah the overseas made up those losses.. I have cheese from the moon to sell you..
“I have cheese from the moon to sell you..”
Please sell cheese to every one and send the money to Satyagraha Distributors…
The Ra One guys don’t want to be ignored..! I guess they were the ones who forced SRK to openly make fun of the film’s failure at the Filmfares.. thought at that point SRK had released fans like yourself from the ‘Ra One is a hit’ message. But I guess news travels slow to that Japanese island you’re still trapped on..
So…how was Riddick?
it gets pretty trashy but it’s a lot of fun! Pitch Black is still easily the best one in the franchise.
of course not all films can be made as cheaply as Ra One..
75 crore budget! where did the money go???
it’s 50 according to the link Munna posted.
even 50 looks pretty high satyam because most of the money must have gone to actors.
It will be below average to average but not disaster in any case.Considering the starcast and buzz the film carried,it can be called a big failure and nobody ll defent that.
the crash is obvious but by no means this is a “disaster.” this movie is not a success either. Ajay and Akki now have had a very dull year as far as their films go and are sinking fast. Unless Besharam under performs big time…this year belongs to Ranbir Kapoor.
agreed on your characterization.. not sure how it did on Sat. Because with very many films there are massive drops on the second Fri. They tend to gross more starting out so no one seems to care. But this is a point I’ve often made.
an interesting article relevant to the bachan remakes:
Another remake bit the dust with Zanjeer opening to empty theaters and underwhelming critical reception.
While remakes are always tricky propositions, it is an artistic impulse to create a re-imagined version of any significant work of art. Such ambitious urges usually bring about self-destruction (Ram Gopal Verma is still recuperating from his Aag disaster, while Amitabh Bachchan has not ventured into playing a ‘villain’ since then).
However, a rare successful remake does offer interesting thematic re-interpretations of timeless concepts. In that sense, the following two Bachchan Remakes are good fodder for the intellectually stimulated.
Lets re-examine both of them …
Amitabh Bachchan’s image of an ‘angry-young-star’ was defined by the writing skills of scriptwriter duo of Javed Akhtar and Salim Khan in the mid-seventies. Some 30 years later, Javed Akhtar’s son Farhan Akhtar decided to remake the personal favorite of his dad’s work Don (1978), after finding his feet as a director through critically acclaimed Dil Chahta Hai and Lakshya (both considered cult classics in the genre of buddy films and coming-of-age films respectively).
Farhan in his own wicked way, not only aspired to recreate his dad’s work – but wanted to go beyond it. To fully comprehend Farhan’s vision, we need to look back at the history:
Amitabh Bachchan’s rise as a Superstar was primarily due to the support from the masses. Through cleverly crafted scripts written from the mid to the late seventies – Zanjeer, Deewar, Sholay, Trishul, Don and Kala Patthar among others (all penned by Salim-Javed) – Bachchan emerged as a rebellious voice, who went beyond the prevalent feel-good cinema that cherished the simple ethos of the middle-class (epitomized by Rajesh Khanna’s work in the early seventies). The oppressed angst of the masses found ample entertainment in the fairy-tale land created by Salim-Javed, where the lanky hero could beat the pulp out of the capitalists and their pet goons. Helped considerably by the competition – which comprised of a bunch of soft-male stars, who found great pleasure in only romancing ladies with weird expressions and mannerisms – Bachchan forged his own unique signature.
From the mid-eighties, Bachchan lost his touch and became a pale shadow of his former self – slowly fading away. After 15 humiliating years, he managed to make a comeback in elderly patriarchal roles that shockingly patronized capitalism, institutional values or bourgeois ethos. His success in movies like Mohabbatein, Waqt, Kabhi Khushi Kabhi Gham, Baghban, etc did bring him back to financial success and fame – only at the cost of his own image.
This subversion and self-deconstruction of the ‘Bachchan Signature’ was well reflected in Farhan’s twisted climax of Don – the winner now is not the paan-chewing, working class Vijay (as Salim-Javed had envisioned) – but the power-hungry, megalomaniac Don, who can compromise on any level for his own glory.
The new Don, however, suffered due to poor casting choice. When Farhan conceptualized his Don, Shahrukh Khan was the reigning Superstar of Bollywood. It made commercial sense to go for the biggest cast possible – but it just did not fit in. Farhan wanted to retain his dad’s golden dialogues from the original. Unfortunately, Shahrukh’s romantic voice is no match for Bachhan’s baritone and the movie suffered on this account.
While Farhan’s rendition came out conceptually more twisted, reflectively more cerebral and laced with slick, sophisticated look-and-feel – it still could not replicate the former’s Superhit success at box office (although it was minor Hit in its own terms).
After Farhan Akhtar, it was Karan Johar’s turn. And once again, Agneepath 2.0′s success cannot be perceived without glancing back at the history:
Karan’s late father, Yash Johar had founded Dharma Productions in the late seventies and his first production was Dostana (1980), featuring Amitabh Bachchan and Shatrughan Sinha. The movie was a box office hit.
The early eighties were the peak of Amitabh’s stardom from the box-office standpoint and he was often referred to as ‘one-man-industry’. However, his movies had become increasingly formulaic to the extent of today’s random masala-entertainers. Continuous en-cashing on the ‘angry young man’ image had already made it stale but was commercially very lucrative. The gravitas of his personality was becoming increasingly inconsistent – and in some of his self-indulgent attempts at buffoonery, he was at par with the dancing sensations of the eighties – Jeetendra and Mithun Chakraborty.
The Bachchan magic was finally lost in the mid-eighties, which coincided with his political misadventures. By the time Yash Johar collaborated again with Bachchan for Agneepath (1990), Amitabh was way past his prime. Going for the low hanging fruit, director Mukul Anand made a ‘hero-worship-of-a-movie’ that had poor plot, no narrative but only bizarre plot twists, loud over-the-top acting, cacophonous dialogue-baazi, poorly sketched lead and supporting characters. Overall it was a terribly embarrassing rendition of Brian De Palma’s cult crime classic Scarface (1983).
It was not a surprise that Agneepath failed at the box office, and was severely panned by both critics and audience alike – causing heartbreaks for its makers. [ However, over the years the fans of the megastar have been able to sympathize with Anand's childish hero worship, rendering the movie as a cult classic within that demographic.]
Karan Johar’s Agneepath (2012), concentrated on making a better ‘film’. The Kuch Kuch Hota Hai director refrained from directing such material (most fortunately!) and brought in debutante director Karan Malhotra to do the honors. The idea was to pay tribute to the silent, brooding and subtle Amitabh (from the seventies) rather than the loud, over-the-top and larger-than-life Bachchan (from the eighties). The ‘key’ moments were recreated with livid imagination and integrated synchronously with the narrative-driven storytelling. The iconic poem got seamlessly merged with the revamped script, while the most iconic dialogue became surprisingly coherent by focusing on the revenge theme. The unnecessary supporting characters were not carried over (including those embarrassing song and dance routines) from the original, which was a compromise made by Anand in order to compensate for Bachchan’s waning star power.
The resultant was not only a better film, but an artistic triumph. While the original had collapsed under the burden of its formula-driven, generic and stale film-making; the new one is a sharp contrast to the southern-style, bastardized-masala movies that are currently being made on a regular basis. The only problem here was the over-the-top villain with a ridiculous Voldemort-like getup.
The violent and brutal tone of this version was true to the crime film genre – a rarity for a commercial high budget film. But it also unsettled the family and female based audience of Dharma Productions, as well as the happy-go-lucky audience of bastardized-masala. As a result, the movie did not exhibit great legs after taking a bumper opening (considering the genre); but did enough to become a Superhit – that too a critically acclaimed one.
Obviously, there is still market potential in reconstructing the ‘Bachchan Signature’, but our current filmmakers are too formula-driven and star-worshiping to go into that territory. As a consequence, the industry does not have not a single ‘man’ among its current bunch of boyish A-listers, all in their forties …
As I am aware about writer of this post (He was/is member of NG and huge fan of Hritik Roshan) .. I can clearly see his biasness towards Agneepath(2012) .. Its silly to see how he see Agneepath a better remake which outshine old cult classic .. And I can bet this writing would have taken U turn if both Agneepth and DON was essayed by SRK.
“The Bachchan magic was finally lost in the mid-eighties, which coincided with his political misadventures.’
And Amitabh broke Opening record 3 times post 1988 …. (Shahenshah, Toofan and HUM)
“By the time Yash Johar collaborated again with Bachchan for Agneepath (1990), Amitabh was way past his prime”
And this fading star was still getting Top openings and more number of Hits than any other star between 1988-1992 (Anil Kapoor had 4 Hits out of 30 Movies released in this period and without good opening … Amitabh had 3 Hits and 1 Average in same period (out of 13 releases) along with 3 Record openers. Even though he was fading, he was miles ahead of any competitor.
“poor plot, no narrative but only bizarre plot twists, loud over-the-top acting, cacophonous dialogue-baazi, poorly sketched lead and supporting characters”
Only moron kids who don’t have iota of understanding about acting skills can think of Bachchan’s legendary acting in Agneepath as “Over the top” and “Poor” …. If this movie or acting would have been poor then IMDB rating would not have been 7.5+ with over 2700 votes .. and DVD of old Agneepath would not be selling more in numbers than new one.
Leave DVD sales .. even on youTube Agneepath (1990) which was uploaded 1 year ago seen by 1+ Million and got 1100+ Likes …
While Agneepth(2012) which was uploaded at same time seen by only 17000 and got merely 33 likes.
But it is the boxoffice that matters.The new Agneepath scored at B.O and old one failed badly.
If it is the box office that matters why was there a remake in the first place?! What cultural currency did the film have that the new one was hoping to draw on?! You probably cannot name for me another ‘failure’ in the history of Hindi cinema that was remade!
Ironically in today’s money Agneepath would easily have been a 100 plus film and significantly so. Even in its day it was an important grosser but standards for Bachchan even at that late date were much higher. Agneepath’s gross would have been a superhit for Anil Kapoor. Not exaggerating in the slightest. I don’t dispute the standards for Bachchan but it’s important to know what was actually going on. One has to first understand the meaning of a Bachchan hit or a Bachchan flop.
But even without converting it into today’s language the ‘failure’ here is greatly exaggerated. The film was huge in Bombay for two weeks. Almost a decade before this Silsila faded pretty fast in the same Bombay over the same period (though it too didn’t lose anyone money). So it’s not as if any film could do this. The larger point I’m trying to make is that despite the controversy over the voice the film did acquire an instant appeal in pockets, there was a cult factor attached to it. Over time this has become one of Bachchan’s most important films, especially for a younger male audience. I myself don’t agree with this judgment at all but it’s a fact that it has become more important than many of his very successful films. So when it was being remade it’s original box office reception didn’t matter at all. This was just spin. Even an original hit couldn’t have meant more than this film. This is what Johar traded on. The emotional stuff about wanting to make a success out of his father’s failure was just nonsense. He knew very well how iconic this film had become over time.
I am never against the iconic status of old Agneepath and Hrithik was not even 1% of Bachchan in the film.My point here is B.O where old one failed and saying it would have crossed 100 ct if released today,is a wild guess.When a producer of a film says his film has failed then it means film has really failed and one can’t blame Johar here for his honesty.Whatever was the reason whether it was due to Bachchan’s voice or something else old agneepathwas a flop and even Anil Kapoor would have starred in that.
no it’s not a wild guess. I know what the gross of the film was when it released and what the grosses of other films were relative to it. Similarly I also know what hit grosses were for other stars. On the rest, the Johar stuff and otherwise, you need to read my comment more carefully.
Relax folks–kjo, hr have made their money and moved on..even bachchan has (had to) move on…beyond agneepath !
Maloom haiyn…(& u guys keep molesting each other on it!)
Superb work Yakuza bringing this out..
I still remember that in Belgaum in 1990, AB’s Agneepath was 100% occupied for 3 weeks..100% for 3 weeks all the shows!!! Does anybody even understand what this means? What this meant for the ‘fading’ actor AB?? This was his ‘over-the-top’ charisma at 48 with a film clearly targeted toward young men and hardly anything for females or family!!
3 weeks of 100% occupancy..and I know this since my mama owned the theater in Belgaum and was also a distributor for the Belgaum/Kolhapur/Sangli area..
And then I keep hearing that AB’s AGNEEPATH was a flop?? So you can imagine what the standards were for him..
And Bhalo Manush and others commenting over here who are gleeful that SATYAGRAHA hasn’t fared even half as well as Lungi Express (somebody thought it would make 150 crores!!!! – to hell with genre, target audience, Jha’s form for the past 2-3 films,.etc) are really lost man..really lost..’AUR BANAO AB KO PICTURE MEIN LEKE’? Why are you worried dear? I hope you haven’t invested in any AB films financially..
It is the producers, directors, and distributors who should decide whether or NOT to take AB if it is a failing proposition..All these working or still wanting to work with AB should be highighted in Guinness book of records since the people working with AB are the most philanthropic in nature after Gates..they keep taking AB in film after film and keep burning their pockets!! I don’t think any film-industry but Hi-fi’s directors/writers/producers want a flop, over-the-top actor in their films on such a continuing basis? Man, what morons, when will they ever learn that the only thing that matters in ‘art’ is the baniya mathematics of cr(wh)ore clubs whether one is 47 or 71?
Since I have anyway resorted to Baniyagiri discussion here, a certain Ranbir’s film made 180+ crores without crutches of a holiday or single screens while Lungi Express makes (230 or 240 or whatever.. let’s make it 250) crores with 2 major holidays and obviously HIGHER screen count. So just around 60 crores more for a film that had 2 national holidays, a carnival/festive atmosphere, the support of the great box office sites, attracted females and family in hordes, and had a critic-proof hit director and fit heroine and a haggard but still somewhat relevant ‘actor’ at the center?
But hey who cares? All that matters is 100 or 200 crore and 12 annas these days..iconicity, cultural good-will built up with a country’s population, incomparable talent, all these things hardly make anyone’s day..
This is how fading star was faring at BO in 1991 …
actually the Hum opening was historic. Nothing else was even close. Bachchan was 50 then. It’s not just Hum. Most of his openings even through 1992 when he left for 5 years were actually far ahead of the competition. Khuda Gawah, his last film, was a massive opening. The problem was the follow-through. Not the initial itself. I’ve said this before but the Hum initial has probably never been touched, accounting for all possible factors, since that film’s release. In any case most of his major films even between 1988-1992 were big grossers because of those initials. It’s exactly the sort of things that would get you 100 or 150 crores or whatever today, no questions asked. The standards were different then. It’s another index of dishonesty that partisans use those standards to call some of his films failures but then pretend the successes also defined by those standards are somehow relative to the age! Or else they compare the successes of today with those of that period when the standards are not the same. And even today as Aamir has shown (or some others have) you can get proper trending for a film that is liked. So there’s really no excuse. Of course the facts never prevent dishonesty with or without ignorance.
of course if you’re now wondering why at the age of 70 Bachchan is not what he once was in a pure box office sense I could guide you to some medical experts..
lol amitabh was 49 nearing 50 as far as i know..
it was amitabh who established the criteria in india for someone in 40′s to be lead consistently and later with whom role where written in 60′s or 70′s …was always the first infact even someone like rishi benifitted from it as the man slowed down
which star in 70′s are getting work in lead or central role ….only 2 in comparison pacino gone into oblivion or de niro coming ocassionally…rajni comes once in a while in 3 years to be at event..still he is inspiring but others are not good enough
what happened to rajesh khanna who was reduced to wafa, dilip kumar whose last film in which the man was reduced to raping rekha ala qila did not even have proper release
dharmendra who came back but never prolific…
infact till 2007 bachchan was profic in box when he finally slowed down…a major part of last decade
aarakshan and satyagrah are in 70 years of age…what one more could have ask for
Rockstar, though some of these folks have to be put into place from time to time in a way we are performing the more absurd exercise. The person defending Bachchan is perhaps sillier than the one arguing against him. Tomorrow we might be defending the sun and moon too! Which amounts to the same thing when it’s someone like Bachchan (or Sachin)! But as I said yesterday and I know I still have Riddick on my mind but there are things that crawl out of the earth and crawl back in!
these lines from Julius Caesar have always been very applicable to the pretenders who wish to be like Bachchan (most of whom realize this with time):
Why, man, he doth bestride the narrow world
Like a Colossus, and we petty men
Walk under his huge legs and peep about
To find ourselves dishonorable graves
Some of the partisans of those pretenders would do well to learn from this but it’s dangerous to assume literacy with some!
and since people love Nahata and Taran so much perhaps they will also accept their testimony here:
For those who don’t know about Feluda – he is a hugely popular detective characters (coined by Satyajit Ray) in Bengali films. And Sonar Kella is one of the films directed by Ray. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0072190/
Feluda is a hugely iconic character of course but more or less unknown outside Bengal. Not sure why Sircar needs to remake Sonar Kella though. He could make a movie on one of the other stories. Ray incidentally wrote a huge number of stories with this character. The collected Feluda probably run to 1000-1500 pages (depending on the edition). This is a side of Ray people are often unaware of. Besides being the great director he was he also was a very successful author who in the best traditions of Bengali literature on this score created this iconic character (Ray also wrote a number of science fiction stories). Getting back to the film it isn’t a bad idea for Aamir at all in terms of content. Just not sure if this character has any resonance outside Bengal. What’s the point of doing something on an icon that most people are unaware of?
kolkota-feluda-fans have gone beserk because feluda has been portrayed as a 6+ ft tall man and choosing aamir hasn’t gone down well……
KISSA KATHMANDU KA starring shashi kapoor was the only Feluda movie Ray made in HIndi. It was superb to say the least and was shown on Doordarshan during the ’80s
ya even byomkesh mukherjee was lot of fun
aamir eyeing feluda is more to do with the lead of that got dadasaheb phalke last year further kahani to was hugely inspired from one of feluda stories
sonar kella was just to simple but with reincarnation,thriller,mystery and package will work…case in point robert downey junior in sherlock holmes but again its unethical and will compleately will basterdize the original
“One has to first understand the meaning of a Bachchan hit or a Bachchan flop.”
Same can be said about someone who gives 115 cr in india and over 200 cr WW grosser flop.
“Same can be said about someone who gives 115 cr in india and over 200 cr WW grosser flop.”
And BOI declared it HIT .. clearly indicate bar is not that high for these stars.
No because the Bachchan flop still grossed more than hits of most contemporaries in most years. His entire scale was different. This clearly isn’t true for SRK because even on the under performers people are outgrossing him. Salman’s films tend to trend poorly for the most part but he’s way ahead of every SRK film barring CE. And even here ETT after falling completely after a grand initial got to 185-195 (depending on who you believe). Similarly when SRK does get the big one there are too many lean years in between but leaving this aside he’s still not ahead of his contemporaries. K3 and D3 could outgross CE very soon. 4 years after 3I this barrier has been breached. Ranbir does 185 just in the YJHD kind of nothing multiplex film. So it’s about what everyone else is doing too. The entire field. Of course even at his peak SRK was never in that position, a point I’ve elaborated upon many times.
The larger issue here is that the moment one starts comparing anyone to Bachchan one reveals (and I hate to be so blunt about it) either one’s completely ignorance or one’s complete partisanship or both. There are lots of debates that can be had about Bachchan relative to his history but the moment one starts doing this other stuff the argument can safely be dismissed. Not that SRK fans stop attempting this. It’s like those Lilliputians battling Gulliver!
agneepath , hum and khuda gawah where grand in terms of technology and script and really wished had mukul anand lived on he would have changed the bar with bollywood especially his association with amitabh bachchan
there are three khans around (technically pathans)but original pathan was again played by bachchan and still seeing his name of khuda gawah badshah khan into circulation copied by some
even something like tiger in hum gives coinage to ek tha tiger
“Bachchan flop still grossed more than hits of most contemporaries in most years. His entire scale was different. ”
True, including the budget of the film, which most don’t talk about when talking about bachhan films.
well not entirely. Of course it’s true that even with the greatest budgets his films were still more profitable than anyone else’s but as a matter of fact some of his average budgets went down over time. Why? Because he was getting those numbers irrespective of anything else. So look at films like Kaalia or Khuddaar or Yaarana or whatever. Nothing has been spent on his films and it’s obvious when you look at them. Now when a Desai made a massive Naseeb and charged what were unheard of rates for that period the film was still a pure blockbuster even with those and not by arbitrary clearing some gross barrier. In other words today it’s called a 100 crore club and no one points out whether the film costs 30 crores or 50 or 100 or whatever. That wasn’t happening then! So Lawaaris released 3 weeks after Naseeb was also a blockbuster and actually more profitable than Naseeb because it cost less. However Naseeb itself was a true blue blockbuster. This is the entire point I often try to make from time to time. You can slice and dice it whichever way you like. There is simply no one in Bachchan’s league at any point in Hindi cinema. It’s not even close. Nonetheless people introduce these ‘nuggets’ from time to because as I said it’s either ignorance or partisanship or usually both.
Which movies are top grosser of the year for bacchan in past 25 years?
how man times has SRK had top grosser of the year over the last 15?!
lol, you walked into this one!
1998 — KKHH
1999 — HSSH
2000 — KNPH
2001 — K3G (not a solo, half the industry here, those who love pointing out Rishi Kapoor in Bachchan’s multistarrers might want to remember a post-KBC resurgent Bachchan and a very hot Hrithik here)
2002 — Devdas
2003 — KMG
2004 — VZ
2005 — BnB / No Entry
2006 — D2
2007 — OSO
2008 — Ghajini
2009 — 3I
2010 — Dabanng
2011 — Bodyguard
2012 — ETT
2013 — CE so far but K3 and D3 yet to release
In 15 years and between the ages if roughly 33 and 48 he’s had the top grosser 4 times, the story this year is not yet complete. Out of those his solo top grossers were never the overall biggest grossers of the age. for instance RH grossed as much as KKHH if not more two years earlier. Hrithik’s Filmkraft films outgrossed SRK’s Yashraj/Dharma films with the exception of K3G (which too had Hrithik!). Between OSO and CE which is a 6 year period SRK did not have anything close to the top grosser of the year, forget the profitability issue or whatever for a moment. And he had many shots at the apple across genres from Yashraj to Don to Ra One.
So if I were you I’d worry less about what Bachchan has been doing since the age of 50 and more about what SRK has been doing in his 30s or 40s! Actually I could go back even further than 1998:
In the last 6 years Aamir has had the top grosser two years in a row, Salman has had it three. And Aamir hasn’t even had other major releases like SRK. even if one wants to judge Talaash out of context that’s one film. On the other said there are two Don films, one Yash Chopra film, one Aditya Chopra film, one Johar film, one sci-fi super production, none of which came even close to the year’s top gross. ‘Nuff said.
Yes I know.. facts are such horrible things! Which is why those who are ignorant and/or partisans shouldn’t get into this game!
Take the same age range of Bachchan- age 33-48.
1975-Sholay (Not a solo)
1977-AAA(Not a solo)
1981-Kranti (Did 6 crores more than the next biggest hit Naseeb)
1985-Ram Teri Ganga Maili
1989-Maine Pyar Kiya
Amitabh Bachchan also has 4 biggest hits of the year. 2 of them are multistarrers as opposed to only k3g for SRK. He has one biggest hit of the decade as opposed to 0 for SRK. Back up to from the beginning of AB’s career and you have a total of 5 biggest hits of the year for him (if you count Roti Kapda aur makaan, another multistarrer). So 3 multistarrer biggest hits and 2 solo. SRK in his total career according to Satyam’s list has 6, with 1 multistarrer (Not including CE as 2013 is still inconclusive).
AB doesn’t have the biggest hit of the year 2 years in a row either. In the last 6 years prior to AB’s 48th year, he has 0 biggest hits of the year.
Either Satyam’s math is bad or he deliberately made the following error: 2013-6=2007. Since 2007, SRK has had only 1 don movie as Don 1 released in 2006. He also had 1 biggest hit of the year-OSO.
The same list with Salman is on its way
I went back to the 90s actually. But even counting from ’07 take off one Don film and you still have some very major films remaining.
Those 70s/80s lists are often incorrect. These have been used on IMDB also and I suspect the source is BOI.
So Dus Numbri is for instance fine. But Mard actually outgrossed RTGM. Between Shaan (which was actually considered a disappointment after Sholay) and the others there’s a huge gap. Similarly so with other films in those years.
Beyond this also consider how many Bachchan has every year in the top 5 and top 10. So it’s magnitude combined with vol. Also note how when you compare some of the multistarrer grosses to the solo ones some interesting things emerge. Barring of course some hugely iconic films. By the even BOI have Bachchan as the top star for a very long period but they degrade the hits and the grosses. I’ve argued for this for many years.
And again you just have to look at what Taran and Nahata are saying there, otherwise hardly the greatest Bachchan fans.
Anyway I’ve intervened enough in this debate after a long time! At some point it’s like (and as I’ve already suggested) arguing for the sun and moon. One feels pretty absurd. Even this debate favors the other side! It’s like if you keep comparing Sachin with Sehwag eventually the latter side wins because the problem isn’t that Sachin is greater but that the very terms of the debate are absurd! And so this will be it for me.
Actually BIG mistake on both our parts. I’m not one of those dishonest SRK fans so I’ll point this out. in 2001, Gadar killed k3g. Gadar is the biggest hit. That actually makes it more impressive for SRK. 4 biggest hits of the year in the last 15 years (KKHH, Devdas, VZ, OSO) and all are solo.
yes I forgot Gadar. You’re quite right. Take one off the list.
And no I’m not saying all SRK fans are dishonest by any means. But in my experience a very large majority tend to favor these very unfair and plainly bad faith arguments. There’s always been this ideological component to SRK’s fans. In fairness it’s also part of a general new Indian malaise but that’s a larger debate.
Raj5 Beta …. Kuch bhi likhne se pahle Sahi data collect karo .. Bachco ki tarah BOI ka kayda yahan mat dohrao .. Old movies ne total kitna business kiya tha ye main ya tum to kya .. distributors bhi sahi se nahi bata payenge .. Specially when Amitabh movies had long legs of many years at BO and filminformation tracked only few centers and that too for only 3-4 months .. jabki bachchan ki movies ka business mahno kya salon tak chalta tha .. Samajh nahi aaya ?? Chal tujhe example de kar batata hun .. Ye dekh ..
Mard did more business than RTGM .. and Business of Coolie was in range of 14 Crore .. Ab bata kya karein ??
hmm, so how many solo starrer biggest hit of year are there for bachhan?
Raj5, MSK, Suhaag, Coolie were not solo either.
My goal is not bring down bachhan, you’re a fool if you question bachhan dominance in mid 70s to mid 80s.
Satyam buddy, why are you wasting your life in trying to bring down SRK and his fans? srk is not worth it, his fans are not worth it, let it go. You’ve been writing his obituary for more then a decade now but at age 48, SRK gave CE, he isn’t going anywhere for another 5 years at least and neither are his fans. If anything with CE the fan base just grew little bit more.
HNY is next, you’re not gonna have much luck bringing down this movie either.
Don’t you think it will be worth while for you to talk more about your fav actor abhishek in trying to bring him up?
The same old stale stuff.. well as I said I’m done for the day..
ibosnetwork has the shadiest numbers for SRK movies-73cr for Rab Ne, but 117 for ghajini. OSO is 70 and the 2nd biggest hit of the year, Guru made only 3 crores less than CDI, CDI is below Guru on their rank with 53 cr, Don is at 44.
And they inflated Bachchan movies post SRK’s entry. Sarkar Raj is 36 for them, Bunty aur babli is the biggest hit of 2005 ahead of no entry, Kaante is a bigger hit than Raaz.
This is an interesting BO problem-ibos has correct data pre khans and deflates khan BO, while BOI has correct data post khans but deflates Bachchan BO.
It is foolish to think AB wasnt #1,2,3 in the 70-80s but it is equally foolish to think SRK wasn’t a top star in the 90/2000s.
who’s saying he wasn’t a top star?
These arguments go no where. There are other things to discuss.
It’s official: Arnie to be back as Terminator one last time
Tomorrow is a holiday and so some releases will benefit due to extended weekend. While the devoted will spend time with friends and relatives and going to the temples in the evening and avoiding the moon.
The scans of unknown news papers that Yakuza is providing to prove is point is totally waste of time.If one analyses boxoffice reports of some films of today on the basis of some leading newspapers then he’ll find them far from reality.Actually these reporters have very limited knowledge of boxoffice and mostly they throw nos without any proper base.If data of Bachchan old films is not available then why to discuss about it?First do some research over it and collect the data from some geniune source then argue with others.These overdated scans look funny and fans of other stars are laughing over such acts.
“scans of unknown news papers”
These are scans of film magazines. And these were only source back then .. can u give me any other source which existed at that time ??
“these reporters have very limited knowledge of boxoffice”
So who knows better in your opinion about 70′s/80′s BO ??
Which source you will follow to get information from source which existed back then ??
“First do some research over it and collect the data from some geniune source then argue with others”
Please give me genuine source if you have else no need to condemn the efforts of bringing scans of old film magazines which is still better than NO source at all.
“These overdated scans look funny and fans of other stars are laughing over such acts.”
Overdated ?? Kya dimaag ka dahin kar rahe ho ?? This is obvious that any source of 70′s/80′s will be from that era only … what u wanted to say ???
“These are the scans of film magzines” Which magzines mayapuri or paani puri?You never mention name of aany magzine. “So who knows in your opinion knows better about 70′s and 80′s B.O?” I think it is only you who is intrestef about B.O of that era,so you can answer better than me in this case as i am not intrested in such baniya giri.Foe me Bachchan is above these nos… I think for rest of your questions this answer is sufficient. Plus a big lol @ myself being another Dharn Raj Dharn..This is the main problem with fanatics like you who are more harmful for Bachchan than people like Dharn Raj Dharn though by default.So if you want to put me in the category of that guy,it is okay as still i will be better for Bachchan than you.It is you who provoke fan wars and wiith the result Bachchan gets ridiculed by fans of other stars.You start fights with Salman fans,Amir fans,Srk fans and even Hrithik fans and compare Bachchan with these stars.At least i never do that because i know he can’t be compated with others as he is beyond any comparision.Hope you get my point and stop these cheap fights in future so that you prove yourself a true Bachchan fan.
Plus stop feeling insecure about Bachchan.I have noticed if any other actor delivers a big grosser,you come up with Scans/posts in support of Bacchan without any provocation from other side at times.You did same thing at NG when Salman fans were enjoying success of their favourite star and when they returned the favour in the same language that you used there,you took a forceful retirement.If you remember there wasn’t even a single comment on your last post which speaks everything.
“there wasn’t even a single comment on your last post which speaks everything.”
Bhai apne dimaag ka ilaaj karvao .. I pity on you guys for being so hypocrite and living in La la land. Leaving NG was my instant decision .. otherwise I am still member and have more privilege there than u anywhere in blog world. Second .. My last post there was closed for commenting by me the same time I publish post. Because I didn’t want the Senti comments for stopping me .. which happened before in 2010 on similar post of mine.
On rest .. you don’t even deserve any response from me. A true bachchan fan can never irritate on seeing scans from past magazine .. those memories are such priceless treasure. You are definitely not bachchan fan .. and seeing the tone of your comment .. I can guarantee u are one of those morons from NG .. You are Javeed ??? Yes I am sure ..
And Micheal .. I have doubt if u are another Dharan Raj Dharan
Now you have started personal abuses?Is this a right way to argue with someone?For your kind information i never was a member on NG though i visit that site for checking the posts only..And Javeed who???Gow up man! Sometimes i am DRD and sometimes Javeed..I never get irritated when somebody praises Bachchan in a geniune way but not like you who provoke other fans and invite them to ridicule Bachchan.Actually the problem with you is that you are not getting my point.Hence it is useless to argue with you further.
“And Javeed who???”
Kaise Dilip kumar ke fan ho ? Actig bhi thik se nahi aati ?
Shuddh Desi Romance UP Zanjeer DOWN
Sunday 8th September 2013 13.30 IST
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Shuddh Desi Romance managed to show good growth on Saturday as it collected around 7.50 crore nett adding to the 6.25 crore nett on Friday taking its two day figure to 13.75 crore nett. The film is faring best in Delhi NCR and Rajasthan while business in Maharashtra, CP Berar and Nizam is not so strong. The film will put up a healthy weekend.
Zanjeer dropped on day two as it collected 2.75 crore nett compared to 3.25 crore nett on Friday. The two day total is 6 crore nett and there is not much hope for the film. The film saw big drops in the single screen areas where opening was slightly better, the multiplexes could not really drop much as start was so low. The Telugu version of the film also dropped on its second day.
an yash raj film which is a big production house so comes eagerness and money factor to dismiss this zanzeer which anyway deserves so
with jaideep shahni one knows this may be half decent
So there were umpteen debates here talking of how the ‘target audience’, ‘genre’ are not that important when BO collections/footfalls are concerned; what does SDR prove then? A film starring an average actor like SSR, an over-bubby actress like PC II, an unknows KS-esque actress called Vaani Rao, and pretty mediocre music gets to around 14 crores in 2 days..and with reviews being generally on the +ve side but still mehhh ish..
And people still were expecting a movie like SATYAGRAHA to hit 150 crores with 40+ actors and a 70+actor as the main box-office draw!!
SDR targets the ‘whazzup up let’s f!@#’ crowd and is reaping the rewards..the youth is the main currency mover in multiplexes and cinema halls today..if you don’t have them coming in hordes, expecting a movie to hit even 100 crores is living in Mar’s paradise..
Well said An Jo.
“the youth is the main currency mover in multiplexes and cinema halls today..if you don’t have them coming in hordes, expecting a movie to hit even 100 crores is living in Mar’s paradise..”
Right, so it’s making a movie which will bring them in. Doesn’t have much to do with age of the actor, genre, etc…
You can have YJHD, BMB, CE and others all work in same year with actors ranging from somebody in 20s to somebody who is couple years away from hitting 50.
Even Madras Cafe did around 45 crore. so a big film like Satyagraha should have done lot lot more. It’s not like Satyagraha was made on shoestring budget with John Abraham as lead solo actor.
It’s funny for some actor, even 200 crore worldwide grosser is failure but for some other actor making excuse is the only option of it’s failure.
Not sure who said 200 crores is a failure. The SRK fan perhaps has this total inability to be honest but it’s not bad for your health to at least try from time to time. Some of us have talked about trending from time to time. In fact to just insist arbitrarily on 100 crores or 200 crores or any number irrespective of contexts and other factors i pretty crude, ignorant thinking. Yes the trade peddles this nonsense and partisans like to swallow it for various reasons but there’s no ‘debate’ here. No number no matter how big is in itself evidence of how a film is doing. One has to know other factors. Having said that no one called CE a failure.
oh, the dishonest srk fans terminology again, lol…
You’re right, I should either say ‘SRK fan’ or ‘dishonest’. No need for redundancy.
the top 3 mentioned are family movie playing safe to gallery which brings maximum rewards infact for me it takes no risk to attemp those….madras cafe worked due to fast paced as well as thriller quotient much like kahaani..
comparing a slow paced preachy movie to score brawnie points is at times funny which never excites
what was the gross of jha’s dil dosti or chakrayuh not pandering to any star and both got some great reviews
I was commenting on the ‘algebraic’ equations that people here try to use to substitute for the algebra classes they missed when they were supposed to be in class.
People are not even clear as to what the issue with SATYAGRAHA is to begin with. Are you really expecting AB to really pull in people at this age in the theaters? If yes, as I said before, it is a back-handed compliment to him to be placed along with actors who can still dance and romance ladies old enough to be their daughters a la Aamir, SRK, Salman..If no, then the fact that directors/writers want to work with this guy is a testimony to the fact that AB over-rides the baniyagiri of BO and has developed and sustained a difficult to emulate good-will with his country-folk and fans.
Somebody said, ‘AUR BANAO picture mein AB ko lead mein leke,’ (note: he says LEAD, if acknowledging that AB’s role can be called ‘lead’ roles at 70, there is another unwittingly blurted out compliment). So what is the problem here? Did the film not do as well BECAUSE AB was in the film? Would Rishi Kapoor or Kher have ‘elevated’ the film box-office wise? Or was Jha the culprit?
Not even a single reviewer has found it easy to criticize AB’s performance in the film. Even his most vocal opposers have at the most managed to call his act ‘appropriate.’ THIS, is what fans like us look for in AB. To hell with BO; it is an accounting realm; the makers will look at it. If AB is such a costly and losing proposition, they will stop taking him in films. But they have NOT and this means something. And this something is clearly lost and difficult to drill into many myriad cerebrum here..
None of the AB fans here were excited with SATYAGRAHA. And this was BEFORE the film released. A couple of trailers showed a wee bit of promise but then, we were all very well aware of Bhandarkar’s ghost entering into Jha’s being for the past few years. So, we were really indifferent to it. Folks like me, GF, Satyam were wary again after AARAKSHAN. So if SATYAGRAHA is a flop and the makers or whoever has put in money acknowledges that it is a flop, it is a freaking flop.No 2 ways about it. But my contention is with how AB is placed and looked at in the entire scenario. And he hasn’t disappointed one bit.
Yakuza and other BO followers can pull out what AB was during his ‘dying’ phase when young blood took over from 88 to 92. I am not that interested in such discussions. But it is pretty clear that he was far ahead of other ‘chotu motus’ of the time like AAMIR, SRK and SALMAN. In the above HUM report that Yakuza posted, it talks of how 4-5 SALMAN films were being talked of in average terms while 1 AB film had a 3 week business that was greater than 15 week business of any film in the last five years! So this included career defining movies of AK (QSQT) and SK (MPK). This was ‘oldie’ AB beating the ‘youth’ at their own game.
Your analogy that BMB, MC worked is not agreeable since what ACTUALLY worked in their favor was good WOM. And BMB, horribly flawed, still had good WOM. And MC had almost a universally good WOM from the multiplex janta. NONE of these were with Satyagraha. And AB is still responsible for Satyagraha’s supposed failure? If yes, then he is still important to cause a BO fail or win. That means he is still relevant.
It is very difficult to follow I understand but AB has simply left no choice for his opponents. It is an irony but it is AB who has truly provided a dictionary meaning to the great SRK’s signature dialogue – haarkar jeetne wale ko log Baazigar kehete hain!!!!
“Are you really expecting AB to really pull in people at this age in the theaters? ”
Not at all, that pretty much stopped many many years ago ago.
Satyagraha doesn’t just have Bachhan, it has others too.
If his fans are going to continue use his age now as a factor then he should hang up his hat.
so this chu***pa is stil going on
modus operandi: make some here there childish argument and start blame game with nothing worthwhile to contribute anyway
satyam: you really have patience to tolerate this nonsense
on this obsession of amitabh that to among some 11-12 year old:
the guy debuted with hollywood and his film made money , satyagrah at worst will recover and back to small screen with kbc
keep scratching your head why he still gets offer to be central character among younger lot and if health permit this will continue for a decade
I am going to stop this discussion now since nothing I write is being taken the way it is written and meant to be understood. I am NOT saying his ‘age’ has anything to do with what HE is doing. It has to do with the basic common-sensical fact that people who are currently in the range of 18-27/28 — and the ones that have the ‘energy’ or enthusiasm to bunk work or classes or whatever to catch a movie in the 1st week itself –
are what forms a younger demographic and would prefer to watch performers in that age range or a little, just little older, however lilliputian they are in talent, rather than watch a colossus of talent like AB. This is true in any part of the world and in any industry. These youngsters may marvel at the talent of real actors like De Niro or AB or Michael Caine but they will NOT spend money on them just because a film has them. This type of whimsical spending is TOTALLY a youth oriented phenomenon when one’s impulse gets the better of one’s wisdom. It is the same in the US; 3rd rate actors like Timberlake or Pattinson will be able to attract more footfalls from oohing and aahing girls and men or half-men rather than a De Niro or Walken or Pacino. This is a cruel but unadulterated fact of life.
As I and others have been re-iterating, why is it that a failing/failed, a supposedly loss-making actor like AB is still on the TO DO movie-list of makers like Shoojit or Kashyap or Sudhir Mishra or Balki? Are these guys operating in a vacuum? If AB is such a big, big loss-maker, why the fish do they want him in their films? Could any of the Khan-daan fans please scratch their heads and answer this? It might come as a shock but here is a hint. In a ‘flop’ film like Satyagraha, AB’s performance gets a glowing review across the board; from the a!@3hole reviewer types of Fadnavis to the the truly erudite ones like Sudish Kamath and half-brainy ones like Masand or Sen. Please let me know if this is the SAME for SRK’s ‘performance’ in Chennai Express. (Raja Sen, who is otherwise a SRK lover, wrote 3 paragraphs dissing SRK’s performance; NO other actor in the history of Indian cinema for the past 20 years has had this Razzie. I hope you guys get the answer here. If not, there is absolutely NOTHING left that I can elaborate on. I leave it to somebody else to pick up this mantle.
thats why people like Z will be always fanatics of his superhero,whoever that might be…
mr Z JUST RETURNED FROM TUNISIA FOR ONE WEEK HOLIDAY WITH MY FAMILY OF FOUR,what amazing time it has been and youknow the funny thing local people looking at us said “you from india” first thing they said was “amitabh bachan” from local waiters to hotel managers…amitabh & kareena and also ashwarai they remember..came back today and guess what I am watching satyagraha this week because only of friends & family reccommendation that the film is good.why is that srk fans are so jealous of amitabh achivement and his current affairs.
lol, it’s funny, since most of you have nothing to talk about your fav actor, let’s spend time trying to bring down other actors and their fans.
It’ll be worth while to spend that same energy on bringing up your fav actor, but that has been a lost case for many many years now.
@ An Jo, my point is Satyagraha just doesn’t have bachhan in it, it has others too who couldn’t pull in audience, specially devgan and karina.
He sounds like Utkal nowadays. Or Utkal sounds like BR.
On a tangential note, watched D-day. And ABsolutely loved it. Difficult to believe that this has come from same director who made CCTC. I can write reams on whats good in this movie but special mention to the song ‘Alvida’. Its one of most brilliantly conceived song we have seen in Bollywood. Never before the loss of a loved one shows so imaginatively on screen. The movie belongs to the same genre as Argo, Munich etc but this one is as good as any of those movie.
they should give credit to karachi deception the book with whom d day is inspired from …along with madras cafe a must watch
on madras cafe first half had hint of certain swamy arranging fianiancially for execution …chandraswamy who became prominent in next rajiv government is facing ed and cbi
before blaming right why there is so much silence on rajiv execution with a major thought process being ltte being given contract for that by indians only
RAW. ISI. An international Mafia with a death warrant for an international criminal , culminating into an espionage thriller featuring India and Pakistan ! That IS a heady mix. I have been hearing positives about the book long before the author, Shatrujeet Nath, asked me to read it. Obviously I was thrilled when I received an email from him. An Indian book with great reviews, what more could a indi-lit fan ask for.
The Karachi Deception starts of with a foiled assassination attempt on Irshad Dilawar – India born, international criminal, most importantly wanted by India for a number of crimes against and in his home country. The action soon shifts to India where, the elite secret group of RAW -Unit Kilo – are selecting a 3-member team to once and for all finish off the threat of Dilawar. A crack team to assassinate the elusive criminal. And they are calling it Project Abhimanyu (the mythological hero who in-filtered the enemy ranks.) While ISI across the border, in Pakistan, is gearing to step up the security of one of their most important assests against India – Irshad Dilawar!
Espionage is a funny game where the most guarded secrets always tend to find a way out. This one does too. Dilawar’s plan leaks out to RAW and RAW’s leaks out straight to ISI. Dilawar is scheduled to visit Karachi for 2 days – that is where the Indians plan to get him and that is where the Pakistanis want to get the Indians. Meanwhile there are others too who want Dilawar out of the equation and life, desperately. Professional assassins who kill out of love for the act are contracted for Dilawar’s life and they land in Karachi too. The book thereon is a game to the finish. Who gets Dilawar? The assassins? The Indians? Do the Pakistanis out wit both or is the gangster compromised? Or is project Abhimanyu itself compromised?
The book brings your greed out. It exposes you to an admirable standard in story telling. It makes you want the same levels in every Indian book. Short and sweet – it raises the bar! Shatrujeet impresses immensely with his debut. Infact it never reads like one. He is a seasoned pro (though a debuting novelist) and he writes like one. The research undertaken is impressive and the word-painting on the pages blur the fine line between fact and fiction exceptionally well. The storyline is laced with twists and revelations worthy of an espionage thriller.
Where it disappointed me a wee bit was, though it had is twists well in place, the final twist came in a bit too early and as a result nearly flatened out the thriller effect. A bit of playing around the climax would have made it an outright adrenaline rusher.
Not withstanding this, a recommended read and definately a writer to watch out for.
Haha sanju–not sure if that’s a compliment to utkal uncle or to b Rangan!
As usual b Rangan concentrates more with getting the right punchline, the right ‘slogan’
Didn’t read b rangans review since he seems to have put it aptly —
Shuddh Desi Romance”… F**k De India
Didn’t read any further…
The only punchline I will add is (haven’t seen the film is)
This sums it more or less
—Baatonwaale vs Haathonwaale ….
Finally —the fifty Shades of Grey film cast finalised !!!
Author EL James revealed the news on Twitter, ending months of speculation over who would play Christian Grey and Anastasia Steele.
Hunnam, 33, is best known for his work in such TV shows as Queer as Folk and US biker drama Sons of Anarchy.
Johnson, 23, is the daughter of Miami Vice star Don, and Melanie Griffith.
She appeared with Justin Timberlake in 2010 release The Social Network and played the female lead in US TV show Ben and Kate.
Artist and film-maker Sam Taylor-Johnson will direct the movie version of James’ novel, scheduled for release in August 2014.
Published in 2011, Fifty Shades of Grey follows the sexually-charged relationship between billionaire Christian and college student Anastasia.
The novel and its two sequels, Fifty Shades Darker and Fifty Shades Freed, have become a literary phenomenon that earned James, 50, a reported $95m (£61.5m) last year.
The author called Hunnam “gorgeous and talented” and Johnson “lovely” as she revealed their joint casting to the world.
The former is no stranger to the big screen, having played a lead role earlier this year in summer blockbuster Pacific Rim.
To many, Johnson will be a less familiar proposition, though some may recall her appearances in such comedies as 21 Jump Street and The Five-Year Engagement.
Ryan Gosling, Channing Tatum and Game of Thrones actress Emilia Clarke were among those rumoured to have been in contention for the Christian and Anastasia roles.
Aaron Taylor-Johnson, Sam Taylor-Johnson’s actor husband, and Harry Potter star Emma Watson publicly ruled themselves out of the running after being repeatedly linked to the Universal Pictures project.
SEPTEMBER 8, 2013, 12:02 PM
‘Riddick’ Is First on a Slow Weekend for Movies
By BROOKS BARNES
Vin Diesel’s enormous following on Facebook – his personal page has nearly 47 million “likes” – did not translate into enormous ticket sales for “Riddick” (Universal), which took in a soft $18.7 million in North America over the weekend. That was enough for No. 1 on what is historically one of the slowest box-office weekends of the year. But box-office analysts, citing online chatter, had been hoping for more. “Riddick,” which may have suffered from its R rating, was independently financed for about $38 million.
“Lee Daniels’ The Butler” (Weinstein) was second, taking in about $8.9 million, for a stellar four-week total of $91.9 million, according to Hollywood.com, which compiles box-office data. Third place went to the Spanish-language juggernaut “Instructions Not Included” (Lionsgate), which took in about $8.1 million in semi-limited release, for a two-week total of $20.3 million. The comedy “We’re the Millers” (Warner) cruised along in fourth place, selling an estimated $7.9 million tickets, for a five-week total of $123.8 million, while the animated “Planes” (Disney) landed in the fifth spot, taking in $4.3 million, for a five-week total of $79.3 million.
Picking up on the Feluda story from earlier today and the Byomkesh connection some of us made it turns out that Doordarshan had a Hindi version in the 90s directed by Basu Chatterjee:
also and this was posted here earlier but Dibakar Bannerjee is planning a movie on this:
Not sure how Doordarshan handled this and Bannerjee seems to be planning an interesting prequel but the author (Saradindu Chattopadhyay) always felt that it was reductive to just call his works mysteries or detective stories. He felt these were also cultural novels that reflected the Calcutta of the 50s and 60s.
and Rituparno Ghosh’s last directorial feature is the first published Byomkesh story:
Finally Ray’s Chiriakhana was also a Byomkesh work though not one that Ray wanted to do (the only film that he unwillingly did) and somehow he was forced into doing it for all sorts of reasons. But he said in an interview that he felt the while literary device of laying out the details of a detective plot and so forth was un-cinematic.
I saw this episode 2 times earlier too but today i noticed Two big flaws-
1) Door was locked inside when Ishwar babu was murdered as depicted in morning.
But, when vyomkesh narrates story doctor babu leaves the door open and there was no way anyone can lock the door from inside.
2) Why doctor babu will take such a risk and go after vyomkesh to kill him. While he was already in doubt and case was literally closed in absence of no suspect. He is portrayed as such a fool to fall in trap with so many co incidents. Attempt to murder him was very risky in presence of another roommate sleeping nearby. How can doctor be so sure that another roommate also took his prescribed medicine.
Satyam were you seriously unaware that Basu Chatterjee had superbly directed this one for Doordarshan in early ’90s? This was an unmissable weekday for us when Doordarshan would telecast different episodes of Byomkesh Bakshi..and which made Rajat Kapoor a household name even before he became a Benegal regular..if you want to catch all episodes, you can do so here..
yes had no idea.. will check out some of these episodes. Watched the first one last night.
on that note have you seen the second Doordarshan version from 2004 or something? Or I should say third. Apparently they also did something in the 80s. The first episode was humdrum. Engaging enough, perhaps they get better. The problem is that this is set in 1930s Calcutta. The author always felt that the cultural aspect was hugely important here. How does one capture this in a ‘Hindi’ translation but also in a TV version where period Calcutta can’t really be evoked?
No i haven’t seen the 2004 one because I was already in US and had lost any contact with TV serials from India. Plus satellite channels had taken over with their trash so just left it at that.
Agree with you that cultural translation is difficult; but not because of HIndi but because of poor production values. Most of it is shot indoors with very very limited budget which shows. How much of Calcutta life can you capture if 90% of your show is shot indoors. Dhotis, sarees, hilsa fish, and white uniform for policemen can only do so much.I might be wrong but I don’t think I even saw a tram in any of the episodes..
Byomkesh was an absolute classic. I dont recall the number of times I have seen the re-runs now. The movie being made as Sushant Singh in the lead. Would be a great role for him.
@ I hate to be so blunt about it) either one’s completely ignorance or one’s complete partisanship or both.
@ And BOI declared it HIT .. clearly indicate bar is not that high for these stars.
Wegher one admit it or not it is true that everyone play with facts and the manipulate facts the way they suits thier fav star. Wether he or she is an AB or SRK or Aamir or any Tom dick and harry’s fan. So stop this “holier than thou” attitude. Everone is biased for thier fav star. So no one should try to sit on high pedistial and pronounce judgement that other stars fan are fool or dishonest or ignorent or partisanship. Here everyone is on same page more or less.
An intresting analogy came in my mind. I hope everyone associated with it will take it sportingly.
SRK as MODI- Both are over ambitious. Both talk too much bordering Feku. Full of himself. But both have a proven track record. Modi are doing great in gujrat and SRK has the most consistent successful track record in Bollywood.
Satyam As Rajdeep – Both try to come across as neutral but can’t hide thier hate for SRK/MODI.
Rajen As Barkha – Food doesn’t digest and they don’t get a sound sleep untill abuse SRK/MODI.
An Jo as Arnab – Both act as foot solider of Amitabh and India-The nation state. But when the issue comes of SRK/MODI they to jump the bandwagon.
Sanjana as Shoma Chaudhry – Both claim they are the custodion of good cinema and journlism. But Sanjana think whatever is bad in BW is because of SRK and Shoma (Tehalka) thinks whatever is bad in india is because of BJP and Modi. That is why Tehalka never get a scoop against Congress despite this party is looting india and Sanjana never get anything against Aamir.
Caveate – I am seeking an apology in advance if anybody feel offended specially Sanjana. Though i wrote it just for fun.
Interesting and quite funny.
Modi and SRK similarity in someways crossed my thoughts too.
Modi wants to rule India and SRK wants to rule the world.
Modi belongs to minority community globally while SRK belongs to majority community globally.
Modi is not money hungry while SRK is.
Modi is not corrupt personally but about SRK I have some doubts though not sure.
Modi is shuddh shakhahari and SRK is not.
Most of the Modi supporters are well educated while most of the SRK supporters are not well educated.
SRK is more human and more likeable.
And I admire him and I am floored by his charisma though not by his acting prowess.
how can modi come into picture in a filmy debate which looks more a desperation and that to with a like who hesitate to criticize some like hafiz saeed
modi’s father used to sell chai in station , he abandoned his wife in childhood due to child marriage and was a third rung leader in saheb singh verma in delhi and came up with a process and hierchy which itself makes things crystal clear and contradicts things and ironically today he is the most popular leader in india
what about man mohan singh the man who still can’t win an election on own and what acheivment has he done for assam with whom he gets elected on rajya sabha ….remember the assam carnage this year
and even a bitter pill for so called liberals like satyam the man whom they idolize:
though his wife is samajwadi amitabh bachchan is the brand ambassdor of modi’s gujrat and that itself says things
Politicians and filmstars are opportunists nowadays. Modi wont hesitate support from SP, BSP etc. or even from muslim outfits as was proved by the recent gesture shown towards them. Just like congress. Filmstars are friendly with all political parties and many must be paying heavy donations and protection money to some armtwisting political outfits to keep themselves and their families safe. Filmstars do not know which party will come to power and they try to be friendly with all the politicial parties overtly or covertly just like industrialists and other entrepreneurs. Paani mein rehna hai to magarmachchiyonse dosti karna padega whether one likes it or not. Of course no one will openly admit to this.
your obession and opportunism seems to always limited to modi and thats not the first time in any debate giving spin
why should he hesitate when nobody else did and when voters are still not mature two party system and give fracture mandate and why this gesture is now coming from other side because it is known who is competent enough
and ya these gestures are not coming without the use of cbi blackmail or even buying mp in parliament openly
*voters are still not mature to*
when you earn huge money whether its naach gaana wala(filmiwallah) or enterpreaneurs you do need protection from sharks …partners in crime
Rockstar: Bachchan is brand ambassador for Gujarat tourism, not for Modi — and I don’t think anyone doubts that he would serve in the same capacity for other states too, if asked (obviously Congress-ruled states won’t ask him because of Sonia Gandhi’s reported animus towards him).
Talking of Politics, I think people should give these guys a chance. If they succeed, we can think about them for National level.
in delhi arvind kejriwal will make dent and yes common people is supporting him but ultimately even aap will form alliance with bjp
Modi doesn’t want to rule india, people want him as PM of india. After, every survey and discussion started staring at him as next eligible candidate for PM post. He took charge and give us a glimpse by challenging current PM in many of his recent speeches and inviting him for healthy discussion.
He himself said if manmohan can give good governance he doesn’t need to come forward. In his most recent speech he said his only priority is to serve gujarat till 2017. But, he is ready to take any responsibility given.
What Nidhi rajdan/Rajdeep Sardesai/Barkha dutt says it hardly matters. Everyone knows whom they work for!
@ “SRK supporters are not well educated.”
Again painting everyone with same brush. Making simple genralisation. It could be said that most of the SRK supporters are not well educated. Though it altogether is diffrent matter that it is true or not ? And i think whoever visits these blogs (esp-English) and write comments are atleast educated. Though they are intelligent or not is diffrent matter. But as i said in my previous comment some stars fan has this habbit to sit on high pedistial and pronounce judgement that other stars fan are fool or dishonest or ignorent or partisanship. Here everyone is on same page more or less. So this comment (SRK supporters are not well educated) is understable.
@ “He himself said if manmohan can give good governance he doesn’t need to come forward.”
Agree. Even i wrote an artical that it is the Media’ hate for modi and incopetence of Manmohan cuplled with Modi’s good governence that made modi the phenomena what he is right now.
With ‘Lucia’, Indian regional films have touched a milestone. A crowdfunded project released under the PVR Director’s Rare Banner, this Kannada film is radical in its approach.
It is the story of an unassuming torch bearer Nikki (Satish Neenasam) who works in one of the local theatres in the suburb of Bangalore. He leads a mundane life and suffers from insomnia. On one such sleepless night, he saunters out of his crowded shanty and bumps into a street-side drug peddler, who supplies him a magic pill called ‘Lucia’.
Monday 9th September 2013 11.30 IST
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Shudh Desi Romance had a good weekend as it grossed around 22 crore nett plus. The film had a good Friday and showed solid growth over Saturday and Sunday.
The film has done very well in Rajasthan as the film is set there while Delhi/UP and East Punjab also saw good business. Other circuits have done good to decent business. There is a holiday in parts of India on Monday for Ganesh Chaturthi which should help the film although its mainly Maharashtra holiday which is one of the lower performing areas for the film especially CP Berar and Nizam The approx weekend breakdown was as follows.
I liked Shuddh Desi Romance quite a lot — it was also a bolder and less conventional film than I expected, and also, a bit riskier.
Interesting, will check it out. Home viewing of course!
It’s worth a cinema watch, but I guess it might not be playing near you at all…
Zanjeer Is Huge Disaster
Monday 9th September 2013 10.30 IST
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Zanjeer has emerged as one of the biggest disasters of the year. The film costing around 60 crore including print and marketing costs has managed to gross under 10 crore nett in its first weekend.
The film does have a Telugu version (Thoofan) which has done better due to its opening but even that version has falling collections. The Hindi version will not even do a share of 10 crore. The breakdown for the first three days is as follows.
Here these people are not taking into account that an unknown south hero with no looks and no talent is making his debut as an experiment to test waters. So why dub it as huge disaster when the product itself was so suspect except for the controversy surrounding it?
It is like saying amavas is dark.
Amitabh Bachchan stole the show from Rakesh Roshan at the birthday bash thrown by Hrithik on Friday to mark his father’s 64th year.
Bachchan, to everyone’s surprise started a lively conversation with Vivek Oberoi, who was accompanied by wife Priyanka at the party.
The senior is lending his voice for the introduction of Vivek’s character in the Roshans’ home production Krrish 3 and the two have dodged each other on more than one occasion. The cold vibes are explainable as Vivek had briefly dated Aishwarya Rai and their split was far from amicable.
A guest from the party told TOI that Bachchan shared a long chat with Vivek and the camaraderie turned heads at the party. “Amitji and Vivek bumped into each other and an animated conversation followed, much to everyone’s surprise. Amitji was at the party for some 30 minutes,” said the guest.
After the unexpected, came the expected.
The party which was attended by the Rakesh Roshan’s close friends including Jeetendra, Rishi Kapoor, Dharmendra, Sridevi, Juhi Chawla and Shabana Azmi came to a pause when Rekha entered the party, close on Bachchan’s heels.
Bachchan entered the party around 10.30 pm and Rekha came in five to seven minutes later and from then on all eyes were on the two.
While circulating in the gathering, the two found each other in close proximity on more than one occasion but did not acknowledge each other.
“Every one was watching them. Ten minutes after Rekha’s entry, Amitabh made his exit from the party. Neither of them made an attempt to say even a hello to each other,” said the eye witness.
A few days ago, Firoz Nadiadwala had approached the two legends for his upcoming film, Welcome Back. After this ‘royal ignore’, one wonders whether the two will agree to realise Firoz’s dream.
Hmm.. the timelines are all cooked up.
“Amitji was at the party for some 30 minutes”
“Bachchan entered the party around 10.30 pm and Rekha came in five to seven minutes later ”
“Ten minutes after Rekha’s entry, Amitabh made his exit from the party.”
Bachchan’s time at party = 7 + 10 = 17 which totally contradicts the first statement of him being there for 30 mins.
TOI ke reporters accurate tippni kabhi nahi detey.
Ha Ha .. I also noticed this ..
good observation. The reporter’s watch must be running berserk. Or his imagination!
Reporter ne party ka nahi, kisi boxing match ka report diya hai.
Hua KO, magar bataya TKO.
wow, I had no idea Juhi Chawla’s husband was — or at least looked — that much older than her. Adnan Sami Khan also seems to have aged like hell in just the last few years…
He looks like Chawla’s father.
Kudos to Jay Chawla for preferring the au naturale (ie for his head) look. Vagarna ganje bhi hair dye ka istimal karne lage hain. Takes kojones to look one’s actual age in a group of people obsessed with faking it.
This ganja look works only for men. Instead if Chawla looked with 2 strands or grey hair and with loose skin, Jay would have looked for another woman. Example Honey and Javed.
Javed ko allow hai, chaar aur Honey’s leke aa saktey hain. Kyun is bonanza ka fayda nahi uthainge?
But truely, Jay Mehta would be the biggest loser to ditch Juhi, who would light up a room with her smile even if her skin turned to leather.
Of course this is true for 99% of the stories. They’re concoctions one way or the other. Even when the facts are sometimes accurate the narrative is still false. Or to look at it the other way, there are ‘truths’ to these narratives. Just not the ones people think!
September 8, 2013
Redefining Bollywood Love Stories
By ANITA GATES
Apparently, in the Hindu marriage ceremony, it is a very important moment when the bride places a garland around the groom’s neck. So if a groom chooses that moment to excuse himself to go to the bathroom, it’s a bit disturbing.
The perkily sweet “Shuddh Desi Romance,” in which that scene takes place, could have been called “Runaway Groom” or “Runaway Bride” or “Four Weddings and Two Fiancées.” Raghu (the boyishly, scruffily handsome Sushant Singh Rajput) is the reluctant young man who strikes up a conversation — and a make-out session — with an attractive young woman, Gayatri (Parineeti Chopra), on the overnight bus to his wedding. That isn’t why he walks out on his arranged marriage with Tara (Vaani Kapoor), but both women return to his life afterward. Ms. Kapoor, in her early 20s, gives a performance that seems to reinvent female confidence.
The film also offers personable characters, surprisingly unformulaic plot developments and a few of the usual Bollywood production numbers — deglamorized at times with quotidian activities like hanging wet laundry on the line.
But its daring social values are from early-1970s America. Maybe it’s O.K. for a young woman to have had affairs, even an abortion, in the past. Maybe it’s O.K. for a young couple to live together. Maybe marriage ruins relationships, setting up a need to escape, and commitment is something every couple can define for themselves.
Thanx Satyam–that’s an interesting review on shudh desi romance in NY Times ….
In his gentlemanly style, Bachchan makes the participants, gushing or shy, feel special with genuine appreciation for their compliments (A Ghar Baithe Jeeto Jackpot player revealed to the visibly touched actor how she was a sixth grader during the Coolie accident and prayed for him regularly till he got better) and gifts (Mishra gifted him a todi, which he plans to keep in his temple at home. Rajpoot’s poem was graciously accepted with a promise to share it online.)
The seventh season of Kaun Banega Crorepati is brimming with promise and knowledge. It can only get better.
Academy award-winning director Martin Scorsese will be the President of the Feature Film jury in the 13th edition of the Marrakech International Film Festival this year. On being the president of the jury, he said, “I’ve shot two films in Morocco and I have an eternal feeling of gratitude towards this country, its people and the royal family for having allowed me to make these movies.”
What is interesting is that Anurag Kashyap, who has always been a huge fan of Scorsese, will be the jury member from India this year with seven others being from other countries. Speaking to us about this selection, Melita Toscan du Plantier, the festival head said, “Last year, I organised for Martin Scorsese to receive Anurag’s film Gangs Of Wasseypur post which he wrote to him saying how he loved it, but they never met. So, when I proposed to Martin to have one member of jury from India this year and suggested Anurag’s name, he said yes right away.”
Other jury members from India in the past have been Shashi Kapoor, Deepa Mehta, Shekhar Kapur, Nandita Das and Sharmila Tagore.
The top five ‘hot’ flicks in the Toronto film fest
Seems this time it will bullock rather than any other flick that will dash poor clooneys Oscar hopes!
As for ’12 years a slave’, sounds so ‘django’ (minus the ‘masturbating’ Tarantino!)
The Julia Roberts/ meryl Streep film should be good …
Yeah The gun laws in America are as twisted as the violent fetishes of Tarantinos fans …
For eg The lowering of criteria for arms use in ‘defense’ is just a subset in this anomalous law scenario…
The definition of ‘defence’ also differs..and so om
Basically for all practical purposes —
MURDER is legalised in many states in USA !!!
I am surprised why none of the states gave tax free status to this message oriented film?
Irrespective of BO results, Jha must make Satyagraha Part 2 with the same cast, Much more gritty and surely it will wake up the people.
Shuddh Desi Romance had a strong Monday as it collected around the 4.25-4.50 crore nett mark taking the four day business to 27 crore nett. The film was aided by Ganesh Chaturthi which meant it was a holiday in some parts of the country.
A circuit like Punjab where the film was doing well saw a 45-50% drop from Friday as there is no Ganesh Chaturthi affect there. The film will be a plus film but remains to be seen how well it sustains from here on.
There are big releases over the next two weeks and to have any chance of collecting well against them it will be important for Shudh Desi Romance to hold up well over the next three days.
They are desperate to make it look very good. For other movies that 50 percent will be not good. And considering it is a holiday for most parts of India.
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#ChennaiExpress [Week 5] Fri 23 lacs, Sat 29 lacs, Sun 41 lacs, Mon 31 lacs. Grand total: Rs 225.67 cr nett.
**We can be assured B2 and Rumi’s will be a flop; others, hopefully will add another feather to his over-populated hat (if it comes with some cash, good, otherwise, also fine!**
Amitabh Bachchan may be a big part of films that herald social change like Satyagraha, he may pledge his support to serve the country as much as he can but he refuses to be drawn into politics again. In a free-wheeling conversation with Subhash K Jha, Amitabh discusses his views on corruption, cinema, Kaun Banega Crorepati 7 and even the new Zanjeer.
What are your other film projects? When do you start work on Balki’s film?
There are a few: Bhootnath 2, Balki’s film which is being scheduled, Sudhir Mishra’s film now titled Pehle Aaap Janab,Sujoy Ghosh, Rumi Jaffrey, Anurag Kashyap and a few others that are still in the process of being finalised.
Rumy Jaffrey is good director, its just his bad luck that his movie didn’t click big way .. GTGH and Life Partner both were entertaining
Ok guys –something for u …
Another hand picked film (by me) from the Toronto film fest…messaged good things bout it lol
Brief/ ‘script’ (if I may call it that)
It may not be an act of enormous modesty, but director John Turturro’s decision to cast himself as an astonishingly-gifted male prostitute proves a good call in this comedy curio, the most charming film at Toronto this year. The rest of the casting is similarly off-key: a mild-mannered florist, Fioravante (Turturro) is pimped out impromptu by his friend, failing bookstore owner Woody Allen. Fioravante’s first client: Allen’s dermatologist, played by Sharon Stone, on fruitcake form, forever knocking back shots in her penthouse, giving callers the full Basic Instinct and snuggling up to girlfriend Sofia Vergara, who also samples Fioravante’s wares.
Another potential customer is Hasidic Jew Avigal (the inescapably French Vanessa Paradis), a widow with six children, imprisoned in her strict neighbourhood, swamped with loneliness. She weeps when Fioravante tries to touch her, but a connection has been made and before long she’s back to his flat for supper. Fioravante wows her with his delicious kosher fish, and Avigal impresses him with her innuendo-laced filleting. “Like a zipper,” she says, grabbing hold of the tail, “you pull it all the way off.” This is the second suggestion this festival that the way to a woman’s heart is through her taste-buds. It’s a lower-temperature affair than the squelchy peach pie Kate Winslet and Josh Brolin cook up in Labor Day, and there remains something fundamentally unerotic about fishmongary, yet it’s still a scene of intense sweetness.
The star referred to the movie “a big commitment,” since it’s based off the eroitica, which contains three books written by British author E.L James. Before accepting the role, he wanted to explore the character of Christian Grey more.
“We kind of both suggested I do a reading with Dakota, who was her favorite, and as soon as we got in the room and I started reading with Dakota I knew that I definitely wanted to do it,” he said of the audition. “There’s just like a tangible chemistry between us. It felt exciting and fun and weird and compelling.”
Lets seeNot really happy with this casting –but let’s see whom to cast here …ok who all are ‘students’ here
Zanjeer(1973) and Satte Pe Satta(1982) Running houseful in their Re-runs in 1989 …
Ha ha good one. Amitabh’s name; Sold!!!
Which documentary is this? Do you have the full video? Will be good to watch.
Hopefully you will not be accused of making this vid yourself!
Any idea what documentary/piece this is excerpted from?
Q. What will be the final Worldwide gross of Chennai Express?
A. 380 crore approx.
Q. Is it true that Salman Khan and Aamir Khan will remake there 1994 hit Andaz Apna Apna?
A. These are just rumours. A film with two such big stars as Salman and Aamir is not viable today looking at star prices and the likely extra returns with two big stars rather than one. Also there may be a perception built by the media that Andaz Apna Apna did well or was hugely liked but the likes of Salman and Aamir will probably know how big a debacle the film was outside Mumbai city and something went wrong with the film.
Q. Which film will do better Boss or Besharam?
A. Besharam will get a better opening but eventually which film does better depends on the content..
Q. Has One Upon A Time In Mumbai Dobaara beaten the business of Once Upon A Time In Mumbai ?
A. Its in the same range but you can’t really compare as Once Upon A Time In Mumbai Dobaara is a much bigger film and was expected to go much higher.
Shuddh Desi Romance dropped on Tuesday as it collected 2.75 crore nett. The collections down a lot where it was holiday on Monday and even North where it was not a holiday on Monday saw noticeable drops.
The film has grossed around 29.50 crore nett in five days and the week will go to 34 crore nett which means the job is done for the makers as the costs are reasonable.
The trend of the film is similar to Madras Cafe with the difference being that Shuddh Desi Romance has lower costs. Both films did well on the weekend and got advantage of one holiday on the weekdays and Madras Cafe went down heavily in week two and that could be the case for Shuddh Desi Romance as well.
Did you watch the movie? It was a lot better than most of the modern rom-coms that go onto become blockbusters; I don’t think that it was overhyped at all!
The film maybe good but it is being overhyped to unrealistic levels. And when a drop occurs they are trying to justify it. I am not talking qbout the quality of the film but the way boi plays with words. It is not only about SDR. Boi has this narrative for individual movies. The heavy drop indicates the film is not universally accepted or trending nicely. Whoever wanted to see have visited the film during the first 4 days as it is happening nowadays. It has nothing to do with the quality of a film.
Ah ok, I agree with this; it doesn’t seem to be doing well at all, unfortunately.
@ sanju & Amy– have heard good things about SDR from some folks who checked it out. With the non star cast, it’s done as expected already –u can’t expect everyone to pull like ranbir/hr/Kats/dips lol
Having said that, heard /read somewhere that some are being put up by the ‘live in’ angle and feel it ‘corrupts the moral fabric’ of ‘youth ‘ ROFLOL
With rapes galore and all sorts of promiscuity in India(apparently & anecdotally) unsure now this can ‘corrupt’ them
Ps : sanju–where’s the koffee –& get one for Amy as well
saw SDR this weekend…i have only this to say : bokwass movie.
Ladies and gentlemen, the love triangle and rom-com a la Bollywood has been redefined: Shuddh Desi Romance is a classic and one of the best dissections of a relationship that has ever come out of the Hindi film industry. Audiences failed writer Jaideep Sahni in 2009 when they didn’t flock to theatres to watch his utterly brilliant Rocket Singh, but he’s brushed away that film’s failure and come back even stronger.
Shuddh Desi Romance appeals not only to college kids or married couples or the ‘arty’ crowd, but to anyone and everyone. It’s competent, challenging, bright, delectably-relatable and heartfelt and hopefully, it that signals the beginning of a major shift in the industry and the audiences’ taste in mainstream feel-good Hindi cinema.
Director Maneesh Sharma and writer Jaideep Sahni have crafted an entertainer that defies every beat of a traditional desi rom-com, and they’ve done it with such expertise and sincerity. By ignoring the Bollywood rulebook and not bothering about any particular audience demographic, the duo have created a light-footed and sassy film that remains true to its characters. And what sharply drawn characters these are – he’s indecisive, she’s needy, then he becomes needy, she becomes indecisive; they hurt each other, but they love each other, yet they gradually get on each other’s nerves. And as they go through all this, we get to watch. This is a delight. We have all been in this sort of a relationship, and that makes the protagonists as recognisable and weirdly warped as a look in the mirror every morning.
Zanjeer has turned out to be one of the biggest disasters of the decade. Below is the business of Zanjeer compared with other disasters this decade. There are some films that lose money but these films not only lost big money but totally failed to collect at the box office as well.
Interestingly the Bachchan’s combined account for half the disasters of this decade thus far (2010-present).
yes were it the 90s one might have included English Babu Desi Mem, Oh Darling Yeh Hai India, Zamana Deewana, Guddu, etc etc! Any list can be drawn up depending on one’s agenda. That of BOI and its fans is always an anti-Bachchan one! Which by the way does not deny the obvious fact that the films in question often did very poorly. But it’s about how the lists are drawn up.
Except ZD was a flop, not a disaster and the other movies were directed by: Praveen Nischol, Prem Lalwani, Ketan Mehta. Who are the first 2 directors? The difference being Abhishek gave disasters with the biggest and best film makers-Farhan Akhtar, JP Dutta, Ashutosh Gowarikar. KHJJS had a 40 crore + budget and made a distributor share of probably around 2 crore. You yourself said Abhishek gets to work with the best of film makers. And those movies didn’t do very poorly, they did the worst, hence the label disaster.
However the most surprising fact is that Ajay Devgan has given the most disasters this decade and last.
Not sure what hit Gowariker has given other than Lagaan and JA (to an extent, trended decently but certainly did nothing to justify the budget which is why UTV have never worked with him after this). He couldn’t get a hit with SRK despite this being his first after Lagaan. Not that I’m knocking him on this score. On Farhan didn’t know he directed Game. Could be wrong. And yes Dutta has been giving hits left, right and center otherwise. Refugee was still more than decent because of the initial (isn’t that the standard these days?!). On ZD just being a flop.. hmm…!
Raj5, you got it wrong.
English Babu Desi Mem was directed by JP Dutta, Oh Darling Yeh Hai India by Sooraj Brjatya, Zamana Deewana by Ram Gopal Verma, Guddu by Ashtosh Gowrikar and so on. Just kidding…
By the way, did you mean to say sooraj barjatya instead of Farhan AKhter? not sure which Farhan Akhter film had abhishek.
Agree with Satyam, BOI commentary is written based on who the actor is.
My mistake I meant that Game was produced by Farhan Akhtar. And Sooraj Brjatya is another one
So Abhishek who everyone preferred in MPDKH to Hrithik deserves more of the blame as a clearly supporting actor than Hrithik does as the central one. Gimme a break. You know partisanship doesn’t offend me. Only the unintelligent kind!
I think Naseer will take his AB complex to the grave..the guy is more rigid and stubborn than a mule..too bad that he is such a wonderful actor..
You are aging gracefully, you never dye your hair, and you never hide your age. What makes you different from others?
It could be that my aspirations were never limited to the Hindi film industry. We have never had a hero in the Hindi film industry other that Shammi Kapoor and Dara Singh. I am quite serious when I say that.
They were two actors who I envied and who made me feel that I couldn’t do what they did and in fact I couldn’t. Dara Singh, of course, it is obvious why (because of his build). With Shammiji the complete fearlessness with which he performed in a song, it’s a definitive way to do a song.
He gave Hindi film songs a form and every male actor post Shammi Kapoor has done nothing but Shammi Kapoor. No choreographer post Shammi Kapoor has done anything but Shammi Kapoor, they have just elaborated on him.
Shammi Kapoor was an absolutely wonderful dancer but never did any great film except Teesri Manzil. You can’t call that a great film, but it was great filmmaking and it is memorable for its songs. I wish he had pushed the envelope a little bit.
I did not aspire to be another Dilip Kumar, Rajendra Kumar or Dev Anand either.
I aspired to be another Spencer Tracy, Charles Laughton, Jose Ferrer. These were the actors I idolised even as a child. I was lucky to see their films when I was in school.
All three actors were very big stars but most unusual looking people. They had no business being stars — they were not physically attractive. I saw The Old Man and the Sea, I Accuse, Witness for the Prosecution and I felt that I could be an actor like this.
I can’t be Gary Cooper or Marlon Brando but I can be an actor of this kind. I was 10 or 12 when I saw Old Man and the Seaand I remember wanting to be an actor since that age.
I was greatly inspired by these people. These were people who made no attempt to hide their age, who were, in fact, proud of it and carried it well. What the Indian stars do always seems rather pathetic.
Garbage. On the one hand he always says that he wants to do meaningful cinema and then he does Krrish and Dirty Picture and Main Hoon Na. After the past few days I’m sure everyone here has realized that I’m not Bachchan’s biggest fan, but I was offended at this interview for him not even
He can get away with saying the following:
How do you view Pakistani cinema?
I feel great cinema will emerge from Pakistan in the near future. Great cinema will also emerge from Bangladesh and Nepal because these are countries which have been through hell. It will be these tortured countries which will produce great cinema, literature, poetry and paintings. I really feel that. It will emerge in the same manner as it did from Italy and Germany after World War II and even from countries like France, Poland and former Czechoslovakia. They really suffered.
Is Indian cinema any different from its’ neighbour? We are just too fat and contented with our selves. We’ll never make a great film in our country.
He makes crap movies now anyways and it looks like he’s looking to Pakistan for shelter. He is welcome to leave, no one will miss him.
**was offended at this interview for him not even mentioning Amitabh Bachchan
How many good films are even made in Hindi Cinema? He is definitely a frustrated guy who is not always consistent, but his interviews are genuine, honest, and most importantly (and thankfully) lacking the obnoxious self-praise that comes from almost everyone else in Bollywood. I loved reading this interview, especially the part about bad acting in Bimal Roy and Guru Dutt films. Gutsy I must say.
Refreshingly, he calls Arshad Warsi a great actor, and I think he is as well. Give him a half-decent role, and he will never fail you.
And how honestly he admitted he doesn’t a good visual sense for direction.
His interviews are boring. Seems he is mocking the interviewer with his cynical observations.
***Man the ‘trade’ experts should actually be in RAW or ISI. After calling SATYAGRAHA a flop, now they call it the 7th biggest hit of 2013 and is ahead of other ‘hits’ like SAW! How can you call SATYAGRAHA a ‘hit’ if it was made at 75 crore budget and it makes just around 61 crores? At least stick to your lies!!***
Prakash Jha is known for making politically oriented films. And with his latest film Satyagraha doing well at the box office, we think he has prove his point. However, just to prove that even a film that comes from the political thriller genre can become a hit, Bollywood Hungama decided to pit it against the Top 10 Highest grossers of 2013.
In this edition of Box Office Report Card, we compare the lifetime collections of films listing them in descending order. While the top slots are dominated by biggies like Chennai Express at number one position with collection of Rs. 225.67 crores, Yeh Jawaani Hai Deewani at second with Rs. 188.57 crores, and Bhaag Milkha Bhaag at third with Rs. 108. 87 crores, Satyagraha makes it to number seven collecting a total of Rs. 61.77 crores.
Satyagraha enters the list at number 7 beating other hits of this year like Once Upon Ay Time In Mumbai Dobaara, Raanjhanaa and Shootout At Wadala.
“Satyagraha enters the list at number 7 beating other hits of this year like Once Upon Ay Time In Mumbai Dobaara”
OUATIMD is a hit film?
An interesting guardian piece on the ‘modern indian woman’
The World Before Her: women learning to kill or wear a bikini in India – video extracts
A random thought I had: There seems to be something special about the 21st year of an actor. This may be a mere coincidence but hear me out.
Aamir Khan: Solo debut in 1988, 21 years later 3 Idiots came out, one of the Biggest BB of Bollywood. Sure Ghajini did this a year earlier but 3I almost doubled Ghajini.
Salman Khan: Solo Debut in 1989, Dabangg in 2010. Made more than 2x than his next highest grossing movie in that decade, Parter/Wanted.
Akshay Kumar: Debuted in 1991, Rowdy Rathore released in 2012, his biggest hit ever. His 2011 was terrible.
SRK: Debuted in 1992, Chennai Express in 2013, released 21 years later. Many Call it the comeback of SRK and it’s even more surprising that a YRF movie couldn’t do this for him.
I’d even go as far as Amitabh Bachchan: Debuted in 1969, 21 years later in 1990, he gave us Agneepath. Cult status, national award, etc.
I honestly can’t come up with a good conclusion/analysis to this. It’s like all these actors start their 2nd innings in their 21st year.
@ Any list can be drawn up depending on one’s agenda
No..Any list must be drawn only after the cocerned actor reached a certain stature. When he/she becomes THE star. Like Salman and SRK became The Salman and THE Srk only after 1998. Aamir after 2001, Hrithik after 2003, Akshay after 2007 and so on. It is not like we should expect every actor to give Hit and superhit with every film.
But these lists only pertain to stardom which is measurable in box office terms. I’ve been talking about the actor in each case. Of course even on the star I don’t follow the usual media narratives but that’s another matter.