Images from Krrish 3 (updated)
thanks to P.K. Talli..
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images from the CD..
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SATYAMSHOT 
June 25, 2013 at 6:27 AM
big deal huh!
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June 26, 2013 at 1:36 PM
Hmmm–as much as I like hritik and am sort of keen to see now far He can take this franchise single handedly just on the basis of his stardom, I’m beggining to get a bit curious of the shenanigans of the son-dad combo
Lately they have gone ‘underground’– which is usually a good thing (but not always)…
Will have to see the first look to assess this one…
Btw who is the heroine here (if any?)..
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June 27, 2013 at 10:33 AM
I still did not get the bizarre logic of it’s Monday release.
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June 27, 2013 at 3:36 PM
the first film to cross 3I number this year 🙂
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June 27, 2013 at 4:14 PM
there seems to be this 190-200 crore no man’s land where two recent films despite their different trajectories seem to have perished. ETT of course dropped very heavily after a historic start. YJHD will assuredly not cross this milestone either. And this when it’s been 3.5 years since 3I! So films aren’t crossing that number even in absolute terms! So even if a film like Krrish or D3 do this one should hardly celebrate it unless of course these films go way above and beyond 200 crores. But yes Krrish 3 is the next film to have a real short at this target. Put differently if it matches the success of the previous two films in the franchise it should be able to do this. if not it must be considered a disappointment. The same goes for D3.
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June 27, 2013 at 5:28 PM
No yrf,
No aamir,
No katrina,
No sidekicks -abhishrek, uday
No ‘relay-race’ franchise wherein the previous equity from HRitik roshan himself also adds onto dhoom3!!
A plain cheesy tired franchise with a director well past his ‘prime time’ and certainly not amongst the ‘exciting new bunch’ of ‘happening directors’
A genre (sci-fi/superhero) which has never worked in Bollywood
Even Bra-1 failed,,,
But
Non hritk fans including Satyam are expecting /predicting 200cr to break even
And some are saying–“the first film to cross 3I number this year”
What is finally does is a different matter (& I have doubts till I see the promos etc)
But the mere predictions/expectations from HR NON-fans
Shows the box office force of hritik Roshan in the right project….
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June 27, 2013 at 7:31 PM
Unveiling the biggest test /gamble in hritik roshans career—(after his debit movie)
ESP after ranbirs arrival as the new force, the ‘revival’ of Salman and the mini-orgasms of ajay /akshay etc—
Nothing short of the jugular will do
Will be interesting to watch –can he deliver this time…
Motion poster
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June 27, 2013 at 7:53 PM
Ok if that 200 crore bar is too high for you let’s just see if Krrish 3 can cross YJHD and by how much. Fair?
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June 27, 2013 at 8:01 PM
Whose saying it is too high ??
I’m not like aamir fans who receded to make 80 crores Aamirs ta-laash respectable !!!–
I go on record—
Will be disappointed if HR doesn’t break 3idiots with this one–forget Yjhd !!!
Though haven’t seen the promos yet so cant say & it’s not easy–this ones not a given success unlike other Kmg,krish
But that doesn’t mean–one has to change the target (as in talaash and many other such flicks)
As I said–the theme here is
Go for the jugular !!
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June 27, 2013 at 9:59 PM
yes but breaking 3I’s number in absolute terms almost 4 years later hardly deserves a medal when it the second sequel in a very successful franchise! The film should be doing way more than that.
By the way, and I know this might come as a shock, but the genres of Krrish and Talaash are just a bit different.
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June 27, 2013 at 11:03 PM
Everyone knows of ‘inflation adjusted figures’ but have already mentioned the problems with ‘limitless extrapolation’ and ‘like for like’ comparison in this context. Yeah it should theoretically do more than 3I (& dhoom3 should do much much more than 3i) but till that happens, it remains a hypothetical figure–have gone in detail with that-dont have the links at hand again…
The use of three idiots landmark ‘selectively’ is also problematic.
As for ta-laash, have liked Aamirs performance and have given a lot of leeway to the ‘genre factor’–bit how much is the question!!
Though having aamir after a long gap with rani and Kareena in a prostitute get up in a bar song and titillating posturing with a ‘cop aamir’ isn’t really ‘experimental’
The sheer cover up for the obvious ‘relative failure’ of talaash (box office wise) is somewhat shameful.
Don’t wanna dwell in detail on that–but where’s your ‘trending’ card vis a vis talaash
That’s the point–in this case, it didn’t trend well, so suddenly it ceases to be an issue?? …anyhow…
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June 27, 2013 at 11:44 PM
“A genre (sci-fi/superhero) which has never worked in Bollywood”
what genre was Krish / KMG / Krish 2? 🙂
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June 28, 2013 at 5:23 AM
Haha exactly– they are also the same film/star/setup….proves my point that there has been no other precendent of a film of this genre working out in Bollywood –(even bra1 didn’t!)
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June 28, 2013 at 5:34 AM
Typo-‘precedent’
So in a ways krish franchise was ‘genre defining’ in Bollywood and created a space for such projects to be conceptualised. Though as bra1 realised its not easy..
Ps: dhoom3 has it much easier–a big star aamir who ensures a good script, another big star katrina, a relative star (technically) abhishrek, a big banner yashraj, the franchise taking over steam form where hritik left it last and so on..,
That’s why krish3 is so tricky…
I think the roshans have taken too much upon themselves, this may break them but its good to see this grit…
Only further promos will show where this goes though…
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June 27, 2013 at 5:03 PM
Shouldnt this be called Krrish 2?
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June 27, 2013 at 7:46 PM
KMG – K1
Krissh – K2
K3 – K3
🙂
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June 27, 2013 at 7:51 PM
It’s the Rambo 3 logic. Retroactively First Blood became Rambo 1 and KMG became Krrish 1.
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June 27, 2013 at 8:46 PM
Well..I think its a ‘back to the learning curve’ kinda thing…because we have an updated approach with the CGI stuff. whomever is contributing to that will have more input than the last time which was primarily to me a trial run..which suceeded enough to try it again. But all that being said BW seems to be entering into that arena where the computer plays a large part * I know ..I know SRK does his own stunts..* Whether or not the Crore Club bar is met seems a moot point ..at least to me…I think theyre testing the waters and trying to break new ground..So we’ll see 🙂
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June 27, 2013 at 11:17 PM
Incidentally as u pointed out —in krish3–srk does have a role indirectly because the CGI is done by his firm red chillies–which may good or bad –since their first venture was (b)ra1 haha…
Btw who is the heroine here?? No mention …
Ps: no hiding behind/under the skirts of ms deeps or ms Kats here for hritik … Te expectations are sky high, nothing less will be accepted & he has to deliver without any support from elsewhere…
On a related note–this ‘3 idiots’ monkey which some here use selectively to prop up Aamirs case–wasn’t aamir alone.
Hirani s own credentials after munnabhai series, chopras and the brilliantly presented film itself was clearly a much superior effort quality wise than the rest of the fare.
If aamir was the only/biggest factor, talaash wouldn’t need all sorts of ‘genre factor’ excuses to explain the poor numbers/trending!!! Like some sensible aamir fans who prescribed 150 cr+ for talaash (accounting for the genre!), the others shouldn’t be indulging in this ‘coverup’.
It also brings to my earlier ‘2 piece bikini’ analogy about the ‘initial vs trending’ games played regularly …
Ps: have guts and honesty folks–admit when something’s done well or not so well…it won’t harm aamir or any of your idols
The only thing such ‘games’ hamper is ones own ‘credibility’ and ‘objectivity’ –talaash is just one example here 🙂
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June 29, 2013 at 8:24 AM
I saw that movie…it was ok…I liked it..anyways..
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June 29, 2013 at 9:20 AM
Which movie did u see maggie?
Sanju- let’s give maggie some coffee as well
And psst put in some of my ‘magic potion’ in it 🙂
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June 27, 2013 at 10:13 PM
Krrish 3 or krrash 3?
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June 27, 2013 at 11:46 PM
krrish will race away to 100 cr in 4 days – kids are an absolutely guaranteed audience for this franchise and when kids are in – parents have to be in the theaters 🙂 and there will be some sleaze and a couple of catchy songs to woe the youth – for the rest there is HR…….
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June 28, 2013 at 12:51 AM
I’m sure Krrish3 will do well, but it is hard to escape the conclusion that Hrithik’s stardom has stagnated: he comes up with a big one every few years, and is pretty much absent “from the scene” in between, and not in a way that generates buzz (a la Aamir). Agneepath didn’t have much of an afterglow, the less said about Guzaarish the better, and on terrain like Zindagi Na Milegi Dobara he seems too old and outdone by younger, fresher colleagues. A decade ago it seemed he would join the ranks of the biggest stars, but today the older stars like Aamir, Salman are going strong; SRK is middling but has a base; while Ranbir has leapfrogged Hrithik in terms of the younger audience’s affections.
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June 28, 2013 at 12:51 AM
PS — I am willing to bet Krrish 3 will not top Ye Jawaani Hai Deewani in terms of crores at the box office.
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June 28, 2013 at 5:28 AM
Yjhd is another of my pet spoofs –really good to see Yjhd doing so well and threatening krish3–
Amy–we did well in Yjhd eh 🙂
Ps:Ps: though this one krish3 is not the sure shot success bcos–
Years have passed on, tastes have changed, people have got exposed to iron man, man of steel and other far superior fare from Hollywood!
Had it been any other hero in Bollywood–this would have been a non-starter –that’s the point .,,
But hritk has to make this work–the stakes are higher & it’s trickier…
Ps: if it fails it may fail big time
But unlike aamir fans in talaash, expectations / targets won’t be made more ‘lenient’/ open beforehand for hritik…
Let him strike or let him fail….that’s where a certain ‘honesty’ is needed 🙂
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June 28, 2013 at 7:22 AM
hmmm Q – thats a tough one man – apart from all the hype – never under-estimate Rajesh Roshan – if he can come up with another “ek pal ka jeena” – well u have all the “badtameez” nos. going for a toss 🙂
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June 28, 2013 at 2:53 AM
apex: “If aamir was the only/biggest factor, talaash wouldn’t need all sorts of ‘genre factor’ excuses to explain the poor numbers/trending!!!”
This is the stupidest argument I ever heard of Hritik was the only factor for the the success of KMG and Krissh, why did Guazaarish and Kites had such low gross and bad trending?
Come on, no film is a success because of any one person or any one factor.
And its not about inflation. The plain fact is doing 200 cr in a year when the next best film does less than 100 cr and only film had done 100cr the year before, is different from doing 200 cr in a year when two films have already crossed 100cr and one nearly touched 200cr and there have been 5 films over 100cr.
I mean this is so obvious that it is not worth discussing and wasting time.
Yes 3I did 200 cr because it was fantastic film. And yes, Aamir is in a different league precisely because he does fantastic films time and again.
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June 28, 2013 at 5:20 AM
“Yes 3I did 200 cr because it was fantastic film. “— if u read carefully my comments here and in the other thread, that’s exactly what I’m saying –u r just paraphrasing the same thing utkal uncle.
3 idiots was a very well put together film in a way that it wasn’t depend on aamir to reach where it did (though aamir did well and added his bit but he wasn’t crucial to its success than hritk is for this franchise!)
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June 28, 2013 at 5:56 AM
apex: 3 idiots was a very well put together film in a way that it wasn’t depend on aamir to reach where it did.
The first part of your sentence is correct, the second part is not. It very much needed Aamir to get where it did. After all Munnabhai 1 and 2 which many consider better than 3 idiots did only 35 and 70 cr .
And when I say 3 I was a fantastic film, it is aamir among the other key contributors who made it a fantastic film.
The whole film deoended on the audience buying in to the mystique of Rancho. And Aamir made it happen, Saying another cator could fo it is like saying Krissh could have been done by Salman or ETT could have been done by Aamir. Of course, they could have been. We just don’t know. What we do know is that the stars in these films delivered.
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June 28, 2013 at 7:24 AM
none of bhagat’s novels have done well when adapted to films except – 3ps – kaipo che was a below average stuff / hello was a disaster
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June 28, 2013 at 12:50 PM
“After all Munnabhai 1 and 2 which many consider better than 3 idiots”–I don’t!
Three idiots is an immaculately crafted film skirting the line between masses/classes, single screens and multiplexes and got the balance spot on!!!
“The first part of your sentence is correct, the second part is not”—bcos u didn’t read it lol–it continues as…”though aamir did well and added his bit but he wasn’t crucial to its success than hritk is for this franchise!)”
I don’t believe in ‘leniency’ to icons
If people like aamir and hritik want to live up to their repetitive reputations–there’s NO escape
They HAVE to deliver when others can’t –Atleast where it matters.
I have repeated earlier–Aamirs real test came in talaash –he succeeded only partly –he HIMSELF has admitted publically that there were lapses and he will learn from talaash–unsure why his fans don’t admit!!!
Aamir can’t rest on three idiots laurels his whole life–just bcos he shrewdly chooses to hide and not get exposed to the vagaries of public taste for a full three four years!!!! One can smell a rat here.
As for hritik–
The most stringent standards should be imposed on him for krish3–atleast 175+, towards 200 atleast …
Let him fail–I don’t care!!!
But let’s not do this ‘cover up’ and changing ‘parameters’ to defend them.
There’s a reason why they are rated above the akshays and e ajays—they HAVE to keep proving it
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June 28, 2013 at 7:42 AM
Ideaunique: “none of bhagat’s novels have done well when adapted to films except – 3ps – kaipo che was a below average stuff / hello was a disaster” Not true. Hello is as big a success an Atul Agnihotri directed film with Sohali as a lead can get. It was so pathetically directed that the 8 odd crores it got was due to the base material. Kai Po Che is a bonafide HIT according to all BO sites. A serious film with total newcomers garnering 50 cr has to owe a lot to the script. Even Raanjhanaa is partly inspred by REvolution 2020.
Of course 3 Idiots was something else and for that Aaamir and Hirani , and to some extent Abhijat Joshi, deserve equal credit.
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June 28, 2013 at 7:52 AM
I think idea meant the scale of success. Critics do patronise certain films. 3 I succes is more because of how Raju Hirani changed a boring average book into an interesting film.
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June 28, 2013 at 9:37 AM
Five Point Someone is a legend of a book. It has kept up well and remains the best piece of work by bhagat or indian author in a long time ( not that it’s a great benchmark! )
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June 28, 2013 at 8:15 AM
Sanjana: Five Point Something is not a ” boring average book” . A boring book does not sell 10 lakh copies and more. An average book does not create a publishing revolution for Indian writing in English.
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June 28, 2013 at 8:26 AM
Except R.K.Narayan’s works, Indians writing in English has not appealed to me much. Publishers dont value real writers. They go for sensational types.
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June 28, 2013 at 8:34 AM
“They go for sensational types.” Perhaps. But not for boring types. And if it was ‘ average’ Hirani won’t have made a film on it, as he has no dearth of writers to choose from.
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June 28, 2013 at 8:51 AM
I would genuinely be surprised it K3 does a penny beyond 150 crores at domestic BO. Mind you, 150 crores is not a small sum and it will get there mainly due to HR in a dad’s film. But, I just dont think this franchise has much left in it. If it doesnt cross 3I or YJHD, it wont be becuase of HR not being that big a BO force but because of the material. I wouldnt put it past Rakesh Roshan to surprise us but I wont be holding my breath. I liked KMG quite a bit but Krrish looked kind of dated and fatigued.
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June 28, 2013 at 9:40 AM
I believe more than Hrithik it’s Rakesh Roshan’s movie.
I feel rajen, this guy is always underestimated, but remember he has a great reputation with indian audience basically family audience.
He connects, and today also Indian audiences are interested in a Rakesh Roshan movie.
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June 28, 2013 at 11:13 AM
I am more optimistic about this one. Each film in the previous franchise combined the multiplex and small center audiences in a big way, specially the latter. This is also the marquee deal for Hrithik. This is really what the audience wants him to do – dances, stunts, body, in some order. So this franchise allows him to do all of this convincingly, which is to say in a narrative where it doesn’t seem forced. Now the only question is whether Roshan (Sr) can upgrade the franchise enough to reflect everything that has happened in the past seven years but nonetheless retain the more cheesy aspects of his brand of cinema. The thing is that people like watching Hrithik in this sort of deal so even the cheese barrier can be overcome to a great extent. 150 though wouldn’t be enough for this one unless it doesn’t get an absolutely super start which is unlikely.
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June 28, 2013 at 1:07 PM
A good balanced post there Satyam–well summarised there about krish3 & roshans there…
But I can sense that this will be there biggest test yet (after Hritiks debut film!) — it’s not a cakewalk this time even to 150…
Ps: is there a heroine here (like aamir hiding behind/under Kats skirt in dhoom3 to get more box office?) lol
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June 28, 2013 at 9:50 AM
One has to give it to him. He came up with Hindi films first sci-fi film , Hindi film’s first superhero film… while the young brigade were making love stories set in UK, USA and Switzerland. and he made these films work. He has his cheesy side..which limits his multiplex appeal. Otherwise he is a fine storyteller.
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June 28, 2013 at 12:03 PM
Re:One has to give it to him
Absolutely.He has an amazing track record.
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June 28, 2013 at 12:55 PM
Shouldn’t KMG be Krissh 0, since Krrish wasn’t even conceived in that film?
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June 28, 2013 at 12:58 PM
Utkal Mohanty Says:
Sanjana: Five Point Something is not a ” boring average book” . A boring book does not sell 10 lakh copies and more. An average book does not create a publishing revolution for Indian writing in English.
Whatever happened to personal preferences !!
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August 4, 2013 at 8:39 AM
a protege’ ??? 🙂
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August 4, 2013 at 8:43 AM
we hope this doesnt happen..lol
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August 4, 2013 at 9:04 AM
ROFLOL Maggie –these are hilarious –did u make em…wow
🙂
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August 4, 2013 at 9:29 AM
We will see what krish3 looks like tomorrow..
But in an utterly crap/film which nobody will (should) see, caught Priyanka chopra back to top form…
She’s always been ‘competent’ but here she nails it…
Esp between 1.00 to 1.60 & shows the ‘hero’ how its done.,,
This PC portion goes to Margaret Ann….what moves (& nice animation links)
Lol @ ‘complete my register’….
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August 6, 2013 at 10:42 AM
Ummmm..no didnt make them..I’m not that geeky smart..lol..found them posted by local radio station..but thx for the nod 🙂
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August 6, 2013 at 12:58 PM
Wow that was really nice animation maggie–thanx
Btw u sound like Tarantino/ park chan-wook fangirl I know 🙂
“thx for the nod”—thx for the bod (as PC in the song ‘Mumbai ka hero’ (nice steps maggie) lol
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August 4, 2013 at 9:09 AM
Hmmm…. Let’s see what the noise is about tomorrow …
The super hero flick starring Hrithik Roshan and Priyanka Chopra in lead roles has Vivek Oberoi playing the role of a villain by name ‘Kaal’.
“On August 5, everyone will get a glimpse of what we have made. We had a lot of VFX effects in Krrish as well. But, we went all the way to Chennai for that. This time we did it in the city and hence the extra security. We didn’t want the look to be out before the trailer launch,” Mumbai Mirror quoted the director of the movie and Hrithik’s father Rakesh Roshan as saying while announcing the launch of the trailer.
“The first look often decides the fate of the film and I am curious to see the reaction of the people,” he added.
According to reports, Hrithik, who is recovering from a brain surgery he underwent last month to remove a blood clot, will attend the trailer launch event of the movie. Speaking about the actor’s health, Rakesh said that he is recovering fast.
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Hrithik will be seen playing triple roles including Rohit (Krrish’s father), Krishna (The alter ego of Krrish) and Krrish (the superhero) in the movie.
Hinting a twist in Priyanka’s role in the movie, Rakesh said, “You will see Priyanka in two avatars. She plays Krishna’s wife but suddenly her character changes.”
“Krrish 3” also stars actress Kangana Ranaut, who plays the character of a mutant,
Lauding Vivek Oberoi for his potential as an actor, Rakesh said, “That guy is such a fine actor. But he is yet to get his due.”
“Krrish 3”, which is a sequel to 2006 movie “Krrish”, is set to hit the screens on 3 November.
http://www.ibtimes.co.in/articles/496503/20130803/krrish-3-hrithik-vivek-priyanka-look-trailer.htm#
Ps: like HR in the pic/poster— starpowers back….
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August 4, 2013 at 8:00 PM
Hrithik having a Marilyn Monroe moment!
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August 4, 2013 at 11:40 PM
Hrithik has copied Bachchan’s Shahenshah pose here..Many will not agree with me but if one observes keenly the standing position here,he’ll agree with me..Day by day it is comming to surface that other stars are doing what Bachchan has done in the past..
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August 5, 2013 at 12:37 AM
@ Hrithik has copied Bachchan’s Shahenshah pose here..Many will not agree with me but if one observes keenly the standing position here,he’ll agree with me..Day by day it is comming to surface that other stars are doing what Bachchan has done in the past..
Agreed 200 %. Every actor after Bachchan copy him. He is the best in universe. There is no actor hefore him or after him.
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August 5, 2013 at 6:16 AM
agree 400%. if you watch closely, the robot-like figure on top is copying Bachchan’s iconic pose in Mard.
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August 5, 2013 at 7:26 AM
To take inspiration from deepika of CE
” Kahan se banayi itni bakwas Trailer “
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August 6, 2013 at 7:58 AM
Think Krrish has created instant interest. Which is different from big films which get big initials. In the latter instance everyone shows up as it is simply the thing to do. A variety of big films get big initials. Somewhat lower than this the initials are lower (still significant) but the same principle is at work. It’s relatively hard to find big films where people are more genuinely interested as well. For whatever reason. I’m pretty confident this Krrish has interested more people than perhaps even the previous one. This ought to be somewhat surprising as it’s appearing seven years after the previous one and so on. But I think that in addition to the obvious (Hrithik doing the role that is most quintessential for him in certain branding ways.. a certain old school ‘shiny-gleaming’ superhero a la a traditional sense of Superman) the film promises something relatively genuine in an age where big films are essentially extended trailers and completely soulless. Rakesh Roshan has his cheese, the films could hardly be considered sophisticated in any sense, and yes this current film seems to have borrowed a bit from a number of Hollywood films released over the last seven years so that with every important image one spots something familiar. Nonetheless there is something genuine to the mix. Which is the idea of a credible Indian superhero connected to the past (so for instance the first half of the previous Krrish could have been out of a cheesy 60s film) and hence rooted in specific ways but also fulfilling this desire of the new global Indian (in the second half Krrish goes to Singapore and ‘saves the world’) and so on. The Hollywood template is then readjusted for all of this. This is in many ways the classic example of the ‘colonized’ striking back. So yes it looks like a pale imitation of Hollywood but this is the point! It could not be any other way. The ’empire’ must be challenged on its own terms. In an odd sense the krrish attempt within this post-colonial discourse is much more genuine than many of the more high end products out of Bollywood that attempt something similar. Because most of those films even when better than the rest are just clones (something like Barfi for instance) whereas Krissh does something more with this ‘burden’. All of this doesn’t mean I’m overrating Krrish by any means. This is ultimately fairly mediocre fare that is kept engaging by Rakesh Roshan’s story-telling and of course Hrithik’s presence. And the SFX can never completely impress on their own without enough imagination added to the mix (something that Shankar had in droves in Enthiran and something which Rakesh Roshan has never had!) because there’s always the ‘hey-this-is-pretty-good-for-India’ tag attached to such films. So I’m not overestimating Krrish’s merits but I do think there’s something interesting going on here. Of course it’s entirely possible that in trying to outdo everything else Rakesh Roshan gets more Hollywoodized in some ways. That would be a mistake.
On another note Vivek Oberoi looks completely inadequate as the villain here (but we already knew this!). Just his old dependable scowling self whether he’s doing Shootout at Lokhandwala or this. Meanwhile that older Hrithik looks positively freaky. There was a bit of him in the previous film but looks like a full-fledged double role here.
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August 6, 2013 at 11:12 AM
“And the SFX can never completely impress on their own without enough imagination added to the mix (something that Shankar had in droves in Enthiran and something which Rakesh Roshan has never had!) ”
Agree completely with this point. And this entire comment is pretty convincingly argued, I haven’t encountered this kind of reading of the series but it makes sense. Having said that the previous two films were, for me, mostly forgettable (really because they’re basically effectively-done children’s films, tailor made for a family audience) and while the mix may have been genuine, I thought it still resulted in pretty stilted stuff. Enthiran is a good comparison for this and I think part of the reason that that film worked so well is that it was really self-aware. It basically took the logic of a masala hero, or at least the “superman” characteristics of this Tamil cinema archetype (certainly in Rajni’s history this is most evident) and tailored it for a sci-fi/superhero narrative. For Tamil cinema audiences it probably wasn’t that much of a leap to see Rajini go superhuman because he was (albeit in different ways) already there. The Krrish films didn’t really have this kind of history to lean on, and especially coming as these films did in a decade when Hindi cinema had transformed more fully into “Bollywood”, their method of mixing different cinematic sensibilities on retrospect seem to suggest a broken or disjointed cinema more than anything else. A more charitable way to say that might be that these films represented the crossroads Hindi cinema had reached. Perhaps they owed their success to the possibilities they suggested, to their Hollywood aspirations. In any case Krrish 3 might be releasing at the right time because in an age where the masala action hero is having a resurgence (even if a very bastardized one) it might heighten interest on an even greater scale than the previous films.
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August 6, 2013 at 11:36 AM
I complete agree with your ‘correction’ here in every sense. It is true that both films were even relatively insipid even accounting for everything. I vastly preferred Krrish to KMG (here Hrithik’s portrayal just got on my nerves beyond a point) but even here the really exciting moments that one associates with any kind of superhero venture were missing. Because one of the problems Rakesh Roshan has is that he’s an old school filmmaker who can do perhaps ‘Indian adventure fantasy’ to a degree but not really remain true to these superhero archives in the truest sense. On the other hand Enthiran had for instance a truly pulsating finale and really a whole final portion that really brings things to a close perfectly in every sense (including that great Rahman number). Which is not to say these problems don’t occur in Hollywood as well. Here too we’ve seen unimaginative films in the genre though those are failures of a different kind. With Krrish though perhaps a more cynical reading could also be offered which is that the film is simply the best glorification of Hrithik Roshan as a certain kind of aspirational star. In other words the Indian fascination with him has always been completely ‘rational’. He really is the sum of his parts. This sounds more reductive than I intend it to be but Hrithik’s stardom is not exactly a mystery. On the other hand the most authentic stardom is precisely mysterious, that cannot be reduced to the sum of its parts. Even at a relative level one sees this. Shahrukh is the perfect contemporary Bollywood example. Even a genealogical connection introduces a level of rationality to the star’s reception. With SRK though you had a very iconic star who would never be considered one other than through the world of his films. The opposite is true for Hrithik. If one encountered him somewhere on the street, if one then saw him dance as well one would more or less think the very things about him that one does after watching him on screen. Which is why the greatest stars in any culture also require an acculturation process to be truly appreciated. The great stars of a ‘foreign’ culture always appear disappointing or incomprehensible initially. Hindi viewers generally don’t ‘get’ Rajnikant. Mohanlal seems an even greater mystery. And so on. The connection once again with krrish is that these films really celebrate a certain new Indian (global) male (ideal) body. They’re essentially ad campaigns for him. Incidentally Hrithik wanted to launch his career with KMG while Rakesh Roshan felt that wasn’t the right kind of debut. This is what the audience likes when it comes to hrithik. Which is why he never makes a mark in films like ZNMD and Agneepath, two very different genres, even when these films work at some level or the other. He is not a star the audience wishes to identify with. He is simply supposed to be at a distance, kind of like in a storefront, where one passes by and one admires the ‘model’ (if mannequin sounds too harsh). But he is also not in the overman mould where god-like though the hero might be he can always traffic with the human in important ways (of course this is an old mythological structure). putting the same a different way there he has always had that bit of Krishna in him who is represented by a more anodyne sexuality.
And so once again your sense of the film is certainly one I can also relate to. Perhaps both readings I’ve offered are really two sides of the same coin.
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August 6, 2013 at 11:46 AM
By the way another sense in which the superhero encounter is missed here is by constantly having weak villains!
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August 6, 2013 at 9:34 PM
So true. And Enthiran avoided this by having Rajini play the bad guy too!
Seriously though that first look at Vivek Oberoi is just awkward. He looks like Max Schreck with more hair and less plausibility.
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August 6, 2013 at 10:21 PM
GF’s point about Rajni playing the bad guy is really what made Robot more sinister and more appealing.
About Vivek having more hair, it is exact opposite of Kulbhushan Kharbanda in Shaan.
Speaking of Shaan, it was one of the most polished films which unfortunately did not work. The vagaries of Indian moviegoers. They reject good films and embrace the most stupid ones.
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August 6, 2013 at 10:55 PM
Some villains who were as powerful as the hero. Who did not make us laugh with derision.
The most obvious one Amjad Khan in Sholay.
Mogambo in Mr.India.
Ghajini in ghajini.
Bachchan in Don.
There maybe others.
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August 17, 2013 at 12:05 PM
satyam – your issues with hrithik aside, you seem to be quite an admirer of rakesh roshan cinema if not a fan.right from the “colonized striking back” to “new global indian”.i dont think even hrithik fans can analyse RR films or krrish 3 like you have 😉
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August 17, 2013 at 12:53 PM
No not really a fan of Rakesh Roshan. There’s really no film of his I really like all that much. But he’s one of the rare figures who’s still relatively rooted. Wish he had more imagination and other strengths to go along with this but I do want him to remain relevant. To be honest I do believe he’s become a lesser director with Hrithik. Because now his films are essentially massive ad campaigns meant to give Hrithik the right jumpstart whenever he needs a very big one. He wasn’t any great shakes earlier but at least he was trying different genres. Even with hrithik he could do other things (though admittedly not as successfully) but he’s just doing one thing over and over again. In many ways he’s stopped being a director except when he does something with Hrithik. It’s hard to find another example of a director who works or worked exclusively with his son. And this is a part of the Hrithik narrative that gets underestimated. It is impossible to imagine his career without the four films he did with his father. Even excluding the debut film the Krrish installments have come at crucial points for him. Here I will say that Rakesh Roshan has understood Hrithik’s appeal and chief strengths lie better than anyone else. He’s harnessed it better than anyone else. Incidentally I don’t really have a problem with hrithik. He’s certainly easy to watch on screen. But I do consider him a completely superficial actor. He obviously has strengths as a star which too in my view get exaggerated because he fulfills a certain physical (global) ideal for many people (though the same global ideal is not given as much prestige in every culture.. for instance in Hollywood the Hrithik kind of star could either do Spiderman or rom-cms regularly..). But in any case I don’t mind him. But discussions around him (though not only around him) sometimes get insane online and elsewhere. Getting back to what I started out with I do enjoy watching his father in certain middle cinema attempts of his in the 70s. Always found him a pleasant presence though of course he had no special talent in any sense.
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August 6, 2013 at 12:41 PM
The Battle lines are drawn!!!
Actually this is not yet an easy confirmed success yet–have to see more for that…even Hritik himself is not at his best in the shots I’ve seen yet…there are challenges here–as I pointed out before
https://satyamshot.wordpress.com/2013/08/06/krrish-3-logo/#comment-222297
The 180/200/200+ targets maybe more for jingoistic fans but the RELEVANT fight is with YJHD …
It will pit the two heroes who will dominate the next decade and more,,,in their peak genres
Yjhd had ranbir propped up by kjo/ayan, favoured genre and above all Deepika ex-factor and pretams Catchy music
Even besharam may find it difficult to catch Yjhd inspite of benefitting from Yjhd box office (even Bombay velvet may find it hard to beat Yjhd inspite of being a better film)
So Yjhd was the highest figure ranbir can offer in the current phase.
Krish3 has hritk in his favoured genre and though this apparently looks an ‘easy hit’–im not yet sure kf the ‘easy’ bit
its now clear
It’s krish3 vs Yjhd —is the relevant battle–
I think I know the answer to that but have to see a few more promos to confirm the result …
Good to see one official spoof fighting the other
May the best spoof win 🙂
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August 6, 2013 at 11:09 PM
The genres are different and so no comparison.
YJHD was a sleeper hit like Gadar ek Prem Katha and HAHK.. No one expected it.
Ranbir may rule but hrithik is not as versatile as ranbir and so It is Ranbir only.
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August 7, 2013 at 3:06 AM
35crr+ OD? HR will rise and then will be gone again for a year or so :p
Ranbir’s Besharam is such a wildcard for him…although people didn’t expected YJHD to be such success but it was always expected to hit around 80-90crrs. Besharam trailer looks to have been the most criticized trailer in recent times. Whether Ranbir’s starpower can overcome it is a thing for future. But I think Ranbir should stay away from movies like APKGK, AA, BEH, YJHD, Besharam for couple of years at least. It have started to get repetitive and he will start loosing fans which had the strong foundations from movies like Rocket Singh, Barfi, Rockstar etc
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September 18, 2013 at 1:28 PM
Krrish 3 songs are out
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September 18, 2013 at 3:02 PM
Dil Tu Hi Bataa sounds very good, rest will take time to grow and will be better once video comes out.
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September 19, 2013 at 4:59 AM
Who is the main female lead here? It’s not Priyanka on some of the the CD images, is it?
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September 19, 2013 at 10:48 AM
Priyanka to Kangana–how are yours bigger than mine? 🙂
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October 4, 2013 at 6:25 PM
Krrish 3 new poster [added to post]
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October 4, 2013 at 7:01 PM
what the heck is this crap? i’m still getting used to the idea of a ‘bollywood’ super hero…the dude with the long tongue looks cartoonish.
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October 4, 2013 at 7:51 PM
LOL, agree on the last bit.. something very sick going on here!
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October 5, 2013 at 9:54 AM
Lol. What the fuck are these!!! And can’t they come up with better names than Antman, cheetah woman and rhino man
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October 5, 2013 at 9:59 AM
the only thing here is that even if it’s ‘too much’ for an older audience a younger audience will possibly be quite pleased with this. They’ll have to be accompanied by adults anyway!
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October 5, 2013 at 10:10 AM
having said that I will be one of those kids!
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October 4, 2013 at 7:50 PM
Guess it’s really going to be Krrish meets the X-Men this time! Those poor mutants look like they needed to get through a few more hoops in the mutation process but someone pulled the plug!
The next time around Krrish could perhaps tackle Japanese sea monsters..
In some ways this whole translation offers interesting cultural commentary. The degree to which specific superhero franchises with very particular histories can be all meshed up when they’re ‘cloned’ in India. In other words the superhero becomes an abstract idea. Krrish might as well have Thor’s hammer!
What once again appalls me is not the attempt itself (I’ll probably still check it out!) but the whole commentary surrounding this kind of thing. They’re all ‘fine actors’ whether they’re doing Barfi or Krrish or Guru or Mangal Pandey or RNBDJ or ETT or whatever!
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October 5, 2013 at 10:37 AM
So the middleaged small town guy wonders: Amitji, Mithunda, Dharam, Rajnibhaiya sab ne akele haath bina kacha, lumba gumcha aur mukhota pehenkar bees-pachees gundon ki pitai kardi. To phir hum Hrithikva ko kyun dekhne jayein?
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October 5, 2013 at 10:52 AM
LOL! You’re quite right. Those stars didn’t need to be literal superheroes and if they did face these contemporary superheroes you wouldn’t want to bet against them!
On a more serious note though those stars belong to the epic registers of India. ‘Vijay’ is in many ways a new mythic figure. But in any case these mythic figures are not the same as superheroes. There’s a profound difference between the two. Of course superheroes often owe something to myths. But they function in a very secular universe where they are simply the sum of their powers. On the other hand the mythic hero is always located in a system of belief, his signification is always a bit more cosmic. Having said that over the last 20 years or more there has been this attempt, specially beginning with the Dark Knight, to render a lot of these heroes/superheroes as mythic figures. Once upon a time Thor who actually belongs to myth was a cartoonish kind of character. Today the least superhero-like Batman is the most mythologized. He’s become this dark, urban myth. Elsewhere whenever the superhero has to be mythologized a sci-fi element is quite often introduced. The mythological deficit of meaning is therefore made up (or such is the attempt) by featuring literal cosmic battles and so on. Nonetheless the American superhero is very rooted in a certain cultural landscape and makes perfect sense within it. When these superheroes are borrowed by other cultures though they lose even these references. If Desai had been making a superhero film he would have drowned in in the epic traditions of India. Krrish though is completely Hollywoodized. And which is a pity because I think there is so much in the Indian heritage that would make for wonderful cinema if done the right way. But no one attempts this.
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October 5, 2013 at 10:54 AM
a related older comment:
https://satyamshot.wordpress.com/2013/10/04/krrish-3-logo/#comment-224689
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October 4, 2013 at 9:16 PM
Oh my..not to mention the Farah Khan line of jewlery for the movie..
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October 5, 2013 at 6:35 AM
Lol maggie –@ ‘farah khan line of jewellery’
Btw as per this poster–Is Priyanka also a ‘mutant’ here?
Haaw– any human left? 🙂
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October 5, 2013 at 4:25 PM
Oh now I get it maggie
http://businessofcinema.com/photos/toys-masks-hrithik-roshan-launches-krrish-3-jewellery/108274
Hritik launches k3 jewellery..
Not sure what’s hritik upto with this farah khan. Btw who is she
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October 9, 2013 at 11:12 AM
rofl..just the sister in law..its all in the family..ya know 🙂
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October 9, 2013 at 2:20 PM
Rofl.maggie..sister-in-law = half ‘wife’
Hope she’s not’ filling in’ 🙂
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October 4, 2013 at 11:26 PM
Cut. copy-pasted from THE AVENGERS..LOL..so much for patriotism..
http://www.movieposterdb.com/poster/6128a5db
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October 5, 2013 at 9:12 AM
Vivek Oberoi is the desi Magneto with the X-men from the Island of Dr Moreau. Discerning audiences will be disappointed if Vivek Oberoi does not have an animal trait…. or is that the big surprise that will not be revealed in trailers.
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October 6, 2013 at 5:56 PM
Man is this poster for real? This is such a shameless rip off and pathetic poster. My doubts have started for 300crrs now after the songs and these cheapo posters.
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October 7, 2013 at 12:58 PM
Just heard a couple Krrish 3 songs and saw these new posters….only slightly preferable to waterboarding.
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Can Bollywood make un-embarassing blockbusters? I think the only movies that don’t embarrass these days are the smaller productions like Kahaani, Vicky Donor, Khosla Ka Ghostla etc.
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October 7, 2013 at 1:18 PM
Yeah…most of the big budget blockbusters are damp squib.
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October 9, 2013 at 11:14 AM
Reread this thread..progressed nicely..but I still need a telescope to see so far ahead 🙂
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October 12, 2013 at 2:03 PM
LoL @ the ‘telescope’
Btw this latest poster is better…
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October 9, 2013 at 11:30 AM
A Retweet : Jadoo must be deaf. Because if he’d heard the songs of Krrish 3 he’d have sent his alien army to invade the Earth and destroy mankind.
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October 13, 2013 at 3:49 AM
the only good looking image is the topmost one – poor kangana has been given a role where only her b**bs have to be the only expressive part and well what else can she do with an alien supposed have that mechanical face?? Kangana is better doing that psycho roles of gangster etc
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October 13, 2013 at 10:11 AM
“poor kangana has been given a role where only her b**bs have to be the only expressive part”–haha
Atleast kangana has atleast one (or two) expressive part(s) unlike many other ‘actor(esses)’ gracing Bollywood currently
We should give the (two of em) credit 🙂
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October 13, 2013 at 10:07 PM
I think they are milking this one for all its worth ala RaOne..
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October 14, 2013 at 2:24 AM
Yeah maggie–‘milking’ it is … :-). 🙂
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October 14, 2013 at 3:27 PM
ust back from Gravity. Another sweet love story like The Lunchbox, where a man expresses, or rather lives his love, by letting go. And both films show how talk can be sexy. ( And talking about that, did any of the ladies notice how incredibly sexy George Clooney’s voice in the film is?)
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October 14, 2013 at 4:01 PM
“And talking about that, did any of the ladies notice how incredibly sexy George Clooney’s voice in the film is?”
Did any of the ladies ‘notice’ as much as you might be the question!
Just kidding..
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October 14, 2013 at 4:09 PM
Georgie Porgie puddin’ pie
Kissed the girls and made them cry
When the boys came out to play
Georgie Porgie ran away 🙂
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October 14, 2013 at 6:28 PM
Haha maggie–that was such a cute n lovely poem 🙂
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October 14, 2013 at 4:09 PM
Weird, just the other day I was thinking how much Avatar reminded me of Sleepless in Seattle.
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October 14, 2013 at 5:42 PM
Of all the things one could take back from GRAVITY, you took back Clooney’s voice. Sooper. Pretty much like how sexy Obama’s basket-ball skills are..
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October 14, 2013 at 10:46 PM
ha ha ha.
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October 15, 2013 at 12:44 AM
I thought George Clooney’s voice was too damn crucial for the film to get through. The way I saw it , the element that really connects with the audience big time, is the connection that the characters of Sandra Bullock and George Clooney make in the film. If the backdrop in The Lunchbox is the frenetic, crowded metropolis of Mumbai, here it is the desolate, barren space against which two lonely, passionate souls carryout their conversation. While we have glimpses of Bullock’s full-bodied persona, with Clooney it is just his disembodied voice. It had to work..for the film to work.
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October 22, 2013 at 4:35 PM
I’ve written a poem on this –totally ‘original’
Georgie Porgie puddin’ pie
Kissed the girls and made them cry
When the boys came out to play
Georgie Porgie ran away
🙂
Ps: this latest image of Hritik flanked by PC & kangana (whom I’m beginning to like after her candid photoshoot oops interview)
This sets the stage for the countdown
Everything about the film including the songs, trailers have been subpar….
Let’s see if hritik can do somethign here—fingers crossed
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