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Jai Ho Advance: Single Screens Phenomenal Overall Good
Thursday 23 January 2014 09.00 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
Jai Ho has had a good advance with single screens phenomenal. There are some single single theatres in places like Jodhpur, Lucknow, Indore etc which have a 25-30% better advance than Dhoom 3 or Chennai Express. The Salman factor together with action has been working like magic at single screens since Wanted in 2009 and its no different with Jai Ho.
In the UP, Rajasthan and CI belts, single screens have probably seen the best advance ever but there is a lag at multiplexes in places like Delhi, Punjab, Bangalore and Kolkata compared to the advance of other recent big openers.
Still the advance overall is good but less than Salman Khan’s Ek Tha Tiger and at multiplexes it is less than Bodyguard also. The film has a near perfect release with most multiplexes outside South allotting most of their screens to the film as the holdovers have either run out of steam or were not doing well anyway.
taran adarsh @taran_adarsh 2h
#JaiHo screen count *Worldwide* is a phenomenal 5000+ screens, Sunil Lulla of Eros confirms.
taran adarsh @taran_adarsh 1h
With such a massive screen count of #JaiHo [5000+ screens Worldwide], one should expect a record-breaking Day 1, opng wknd and Week 1.
Be ready to be shocked, Jai Ho will open average/below average in Multiplexes. Dont know how BOI talking about is talking about single screens. I cant track them.
But, BMS clearly indicates shocker , i think with Jai Ho Sallu is back to Wanted and pre wanted phase.
If multiplexes dont pick up after average opening, below 20 cr first day will shock the industry.
All in all, Salman movie has never seen such low response in multiplex since wanted. I think only ‘Ready’ was other sallu star which was little slow in morning but picked up quickly to trend very well. But Jai ho is much below Ready, can this pick up like ready to trend excellent? Now, all depends on reviews and wom.
Jai Ho Below Expectations At Multiplexes
Friday 24 January 2014 15.30 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
Jai Ha is remaining below expectations at multiplexes practically all over the country. The opening was not that strong at multiplexes in the morning and in the afternoon the film has seen collections at a similar level and even less at places.
The single screens are doing well but the sort of numbers expected from Jai Ho can’t come from just single screen doing good business, the multiplexes must do well as well.
The collections in Delhi city and East Punjab are pretty shocking considering the numbers the last few Salman Khan starrer’s have put up in these areas. Ek Tha Tiger saw record business while Dabangg was much closer to 3 Idiots in these areas than Mumbai. At the moment a 20 crore nett total is looking a tough ask for Jai Ho. It is almost certain to have lower first day figures than Bodyguard and Dabangg 2.
Horrible for the plants. This is a bad bad habit among Indian men, making Delhi stink like a urinal whether it is the station area, or busy bazaars. poooh!!
I was hoping he’s bring this up in the next ‘halo building’ season of Satyamevj ayte but now I can forget about it.
my thought process was COMPLETELY off…instead of the trees, I was wondering, what if….arrrr…they check each other out…and start to “compete”….kaun bada.
lolz
They are clearly posing. But this is enough for all their mad fans to treat public spaces like urinals. Very bad role models here. Send this pic to Kejri, he will do on the spot Dharna to protest.
no movie star…sports star should be a ‘role model’. charles barkley said it best: “I’m not a role model… Just because I dunk a basketball doesn’t mean I should raise your kids.”
I draw inspiration from some famous people but my role models are people that i only know personally.
Arghh that pic of aamir is in and taste and a bad example to the naive fans–imagine what would the aamir fans like Satyam will be upto now (I’m not talking about Salman since this isn’t new)
Anyhow—
I need to set my mood right after that crass pic!!
The ONLY reason I checked the few seconds of this promo were the two ladies
Nargis & Ileana order me to “get screwed in love”!!
Ok girls …I can’t say no…
It has the three sexiest ladies in B’wood today: Nargis, Ileana and Evelyn. Varun is quite the lucky guy and I am not going to miss the movie for anything in the world.
Jai Ho Has Good Opening But Not Bumper
Friday 24 January 2014 11.30 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
Jai Ha had a good opening with single screensdoing very well ranging from 80-100% while multiplexes opened in the 50% range but while the opening is good the expectations were of a much better opening. The business at multiplexes across North India was disappointing as some were even less than 50%.
Mumbai circuit has opened better than North India with Ahmedabad recording 90% collections and Pune also around 80-90% but North looks set to be below expectations as Delhi NCR and East Punjab had average start.
Overall the opening is good but not huge. The first day number should be good but probably not what a Salman Khan starrer should be doing today. It has no chance of reaching Ek Tha Tiger levels and the question is can it go over 20 crore nett or not. A lot depends how multiplexes fare through the day as business in single screens in most parts is very good.
Just as i said yesterday, it is struggling for 20 cr first day. But, what is taran smoking? Instead of being shocked he calls it packed house opening.
Wasnt he expecting it will chase all records?
@taranadarsh
With such a massive screen count of #JaiHo [5000+ screens Worldwide], one should expect a record-breaking Day 1, opng wknd and Week 1.
Shah Rukh’s injury not ‘OK’, shooting cancelled on FridayBy Subhash K. Jha, Jan 24, 2014 – 10:45 hrs IST
Shah Rukh Khan’s injury which his…ahem…colleague Salman Khan has described as “ok” is not so okay. According to an eyewitness Shah Rukh was not just injured but also badly shaken by the accident.
Says the eyewitness, “Shah Rukh was shooting with Abhishek Bachchan, Sonu Sood and Deepika Padukone for Farah Khan’s Happy New Year when a heavy 10×5 door came crashing down straight towards Shah Rukh. He ducked. But couldn’t escape entirely though. He had bleeding gash on the right side of his forehead. His knee was also injured.”
Worst of all, Shah Rukh’s shoulder which has undergone several surgeries took the weight of the falling door.
Says the eyewitness, “Shah Rukh was in a lot of pain. He is also become frail because of the repeated injuries and surgeries. The entire team went to the hospital with him. They were there for more than 4 hours. Thorough tests including CT scan and an MRI scan were done.”
The test reports are awaited.
In the meanwhile Shah Rukh insisted on returning to shoot after the hospitalization.
Says the eyewitness, “Shah Rukh and the entire team went back to shoot at the Marriott. Shah Rukh had his hand in a sling. He took of his sling and did his shots. But he was quite shaken. The shooting has been cancelled on Friday to allow Shah Rukh to rest.”
Jai Ho Below Expectations At Multiplexes
Friday 24 January 2014 15.30 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
Jai Ha is remaining below expectations at multiplexes practically all over the country. The opening was not that strong at multiplexes in the morning and in the afternoon the film has seen collections at a similar level and even less at places.
The single screens are doing well but the sort of numbers expected from Jai Ho can’t come from just single screen doing good business, the multiplexes must do well as well.
The collections in Delhi city and East Punjab are pretty shocking considering the numbers the last few Salman Khan starrer’s have put up in these areas. Ek Tha Tiger saw record business while Dabangg was much closer to 3 Idiots in these areas than Mumbai. At the moment a 20 crore nett total is looking a tough ask for Jai Ho. It is almost certain to have lower first day figures than Bodyguard and Dabangg 2.http://www.boxofficeindia.com/Details/art_detail/jaihobelowexpectationsatmultiplexes#.UuJ5UNK6Yb0
Though this will pick up over the weekend with wom better than the rest, it seems a clear case of over exposure on tv and news and then partial over confidence on salman part with assembling all the left over cast and general bhaigiri in filmaking and then not having an a-grade heroine. Salman may be ruling the roost but it’s the package deal which seems to be working these days.
The storyline may be good to decent but the promos except the posters always looked dated and recycled garbage like dabangg2 .
This also was a summer movie and salman should have waited for april/may dates. Though I am not a die hard aamir fan you need to adopt his saam, daam, dand, bhed philosophy at times.
@Satyam
Why my comment is under moderation. If i typed c… c… toh under moderaion, aur ank jo ne type kiya toh all fine. I someone abused me continuously other day all good.
On another thread, my 3 comments just never showed up. Actually, i tried posting one word that also didnt show up. This is the limit.
Relax, all your comments are showing up. Anytime you put 2 or more links it automatically goes into moderation. I just released it. About yesterday’s comments I already told you I don’t know what happened there. Because they weren’t in moderation or spam.
The filibuster thread was closed last night because it had too many comments. I’ve opened up a new political thread. I think maybe the political threads aren’t a good idea. People start getting paranoid!
I never made any such comment that i was banned there. If it was for someone, it should have been highlighted but i was never told.
May be your moderator is biased.
I think you have a problem following me. If you were banned you wouldn’t be here making any kind of comment. There’s no way to ban people selectively from certain threads. That thread was shut down (and I said that I would several hrs before doing so) because it had 400 or more comments and when you have that many things slow down (the thread takes a while to load). This has been done with other threads in the past too (trailer ones and so on). So no one can add comments to that thread. Which is I opened up a new one. All the ‘political’ action has been moved here and people have responded accordingly.
Dharmendra-Jethmalani kiss photo goes viral on social networking sites
Veteran Bollywood star Dharmendra has been trending on Twitter close on the heels of other stars such as Nirupa Roy, Danny Denzongpa and Alok Nath.
The only difference here is that it’s not jokes that are doing the rounds, instead it’s a photograph of the veteran actor caught in a liplock with none other than the famous politician and lawyer Ram Jethmalani.
The photograph was reportedly taken at Jethmalani’s birthday celebrations.
And as expected, the twitterati have their own take on the photograph.
Not sure if this can be a reason, but the recent controversary about performing in safai ( yadav bastion ) seems to be having an impct here.
Salman has made a big mistake here & by following that up by giving very reckless interviews ( barkha atc ). He seems to have done a lot of damage ( at least in the short run ) to his image.
Jai ho in my opinion will not show much uptick from here on.
Jai Ho 70% more than Yaariyan in Kanpur on Friday.
Girish Johar @girishjohar 8m
KANPUR (JAI HO) Friday Multiplexes-602727 Single Screen-419588.50 TOTAL-1022315.50 1day Total-1022315.50
Girish Johar @girishjohar Jan 10
KANPUR (YARIYAAN) Friday Multiplexes-475986 Single Screen-106682 TOTAL-582668 1day Total-582668
More Apt comparison due to similar screen size is Dhoom3.
Jai Ho is 110% less than D3 in Kanpur on Friday. With similar trend all over, it should be 15-16 cr first day.
Girish Johar @girishjohar Dec 20
KANPUR (DHOOM 3) Friday Multiplexes-1422849 Single Screen-723194 TOTAL-2146043
Varanasi First day is half of D3 Friday. Going by trend suggested by Varanasi and Kanpur. First day is just 15-16 cr. May be couple of more of less but 20 is out of reach for sure.
Girish Johar @girishjohar 5m
Varanasi #JaiHo FRIDAY MPX 615183 SS 183205 TOTAL 798388
Girish Johar @girishjohar Dec 20
FRIDAY Varanasi #Dhoom3 MPX 1343634 S S 246404 TOTAL1590038
Jai Ho Finds It Tough On Day One
Friday 24 January 2014 22.00 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
Jai Ha has found it tough at the box office on day one. The multiplexes did not start that strongly and could not pick up while single screens started very well but at places there were cracks in the matinee and evening shows. It is cold in the North but still it should have collected much more.
It was pretty clear in the afternoon that 20 crore nett was a huge task and as the day comes to an end the collections for the film will be around the 15 crore nett range.
The film has suffered in the multiplexes with the lowest collections of a Salman Khan starrer since Wanted in 2009. The all India collections of films like Dabangg (2010) and Ready (2011) may remain lower when the final all India total of Jai Ho comes in but at multiplexes they recorded better collections. The film has been sold for huge prices in circuits where it has been sold and figures coming in from these circuits be it Rajasthan, West Bengal or CP Berar are not proportionate to the prices that distributors have paid.
Komal Nahta @KomalNahta 6h
Shocking! Salman Khan’s JAI HO doesn’t take a flying start in multiplexes. Opening in single-screen cinemas lovely but not in multiplexes.
The multiplexes once again prove that anything that looks half-serious becomes problematic for them. As long as Salman was doing the masala-comedy routine he was fine. Even with ETT this was a rather multiplex-friendly deal. Yashraj, Katrina etc. The moment you try to go more hardcore the results are clear. I don’t really buy the fact that this film didn’t look great and so on. As opposed to what? BG, ready?!
Once again people should have reason to appreciate Aamir’s feat in Ghajini. No other serious masala film (or serious drama) has done anything even remotely close to this film’s business in terms of opening and final gross.
I think this is also a case of masala fatigue. It was visible even during Dabang 2 and all subsequent masala movies like Boss etc..There is only so much of the same anyone can take. I am not too surprised the movie didnt start well, it also looked stale if you compare it with other biggies. The songs were bad, the heroine looked like some Junior casting couch actress and it had that 80’s look and feel..
I am not too disappointed, I will never be, specially if a movie of Salman or Akshay doesnt do well. What is sad is atleast this salman movie content wise was better than his recent outings but still it has flopped. With Kick on the anvil I expect another big dud. His real biggie would be the Barjatya one. On Akshay he has Thupakki coming so even with my obvious hatred for this south kind masala movies, I will be happy if that one does well as that is a genuinely good movie.
Second day bookings are not no different either. Also, single screen always fall on Saturday. Expect similar or lower number on sat unless multiplex improve significantly.
This is nothing but exhaustion of Massy movies. BOSS, Besharam, R…rajkumar also not great…Jai ho confirms it.
Besharam isn’t masala by any stretch. And you can’t compare Shahid with Salman in his current phase though R..rajkumar remained stable at the lower end. Didn’t do too badly. It just lacked an initial. Again Akshay is more or less a spent force at this point. Not likely to get big openings on anything. The best he can do on a good day is get a 120 crore or so final result. Masala-comedy is the key, something I’ve been saying for very long. Rohit Shetty profits from this every time. Hard to believe there’s any exhaustion here. Of course anytime you have too many similar films the novelty runs out and you get a number of failures too. But Salman is big enough at the moment for the genre not to be a crippling factor for him. But even with him this trajectory couldn’t have lasted forever. The lack of relative quality eventually starts showing. And even now most of his releases (barring the Barjatya project) seem to be utterly indifferent ones simply playing the same note again and again. Think it will be hard for him to get those stratospheric numbers in the absence of a proper project. Maybe with Kick because this is a remake. I haven’t seen the original but maybe this gets it done. The Stalin remake was always dicey.
This is not just end of road for Mass masala cinema. It indicates clear flop for salman. BOI says 15 cr first day at best, sat will be lower as SS was the best thing about it. 50 cr weekend at best and 80-90 cr total the way underperforming movies trend these days, which makes it clean flop.
Last year, dabangg2 didnt trend very well, it was not well accepted no where close to first Dabangg.
And probably that was end of road for masala movies.
Looks like Only one of Srk or salman can do well at a time. Though, aamir maintains exclusivity with one film in 2 year.
yes this looks to be Salman’s first serious underperformer since Dabanng. Some other films fizzled out fast (ETT is the classic example here) but they at least started very big and got to a minimal gross because of it. If the weekend remains along these lines for the film it will struggle to reach 100.
15 crores is an unbelievably low number, as far as I remember Ram-Leela made more than that on its first day. I’m actually having a hard time believing 15 crores from 4500 screens, its embarrassing. I think Taran Adarsh and co will have it at 20 crore 1st day.
Early reports suggest that ‘Jai Ho’ has got an 80 to 100 per cent opening in certain sectors. The single screens opened to a better response than most plexes.
Yes i was expecting at least 20 crores minimum and possibly up to 25crores…this could be a really big disaster. A total less than 50crores for weekend and its going to fold pretty quickly.
Nothing surprising here….i was telling it for last couple of days that be prepared for shock. Multiplex bookings were just horrendous. And it hasnt improved a bit on saturday aswell.
Be ready for more shock, saturday will be lower than friday as Single screens were at high level and Single screens always come down than first day.
As i was telling, it is going to perform like BOSS on little higher level.
BOSS first day was 12 cr due to excellent SS performance and poor multiplex. Same case here. BOSS wrapped around 57 cr, Jai ho will wrap around 85-90 cr.
what a lot of cobblers,this site has been on a weed,one of the worse site for every star,this site thinks its all about srk & co,for this site paheli was a blockbuster,some jokers runnig this site
I found a perfect spelling for srk sarukh. Or saruk.
Aamir rooting for Jaiho is amusing.
Aamir, dont sell bad cinema just because he is your friend. You will lose credibility.
Salman is no SRK and his ride to success is luck. And a saleable heroine like Katrina or Deepika is as important.
Salman needs good music and some comedy than Sohail Khan directing.
I don’t think that has anything to do with it. If people were influenced then there were other things in past and no one bothered. People are simply not excited about the product.
I haven’t seen the movie but from the trailer it looked as pedestrian as it gets…the dialogues and acting everything looked forced and out of place…this looked like Sunny Deol movie which would have collected 15crr in lifetime total…lol…a bit surprising if it fails to hit 125crr but not shocking either…this looked the most dullest Salman’s movie in recent times since his blockbuster streak which started with Wanted
Just like my take on the oscar nominations 2014, this is somewhat of an unbiased summarising roundup for people who want to see beyond the noise and the spin. Here are the stocks of the main male actors as I see them now—
The BIGGEST Losers –the ‘peeing club’
When we saw a tweet pic released (aptly by aamir himself!) of aamir pissing way to glory with Salman, it was somewhat more than symbolic
Loser 1
Salman khan –have never considered /acknowledged him ever as actor or star pre-dabang. Jai hos shameful fate is not a surprise at all. Salmans career is far from over but the orgasmic unnatural ‘turbo boost’ he has been enjoying lately will come under a leash somewhat (kick will do well though but not a record breaker)
Loser 2
Aamir khan
Now this is where the boys are separated from men! Most will consider him to be a big winner given dhoom3’s grossing above krrish3 & CE. But but..
Hang on..
a) Aamirs appeal and core audience got antagonised here
b) he was seen increasingly as a ‘sell out’ and just like his peeing antic with Salman, his ‘pseudo intellectualism’ came out into the open
But above all
C) it broke the MYTH of Aamirs trending appeal (following talaash percolating into dhoom3
d) so emphatic was this verdict
That dhoom3 that got close to 250 crores in its first week
Couldn’t muster just 100 crores in the remaining entire run
Heck not even 50 crores
Which to me wasn’t shocking ..,
But besides ripping apart Aamirs credibility,
For all times to come–it has stripped those who pedalled limitless trending and so on..
This signalled the literal DEATH of TRENDING (& it’s proponents got a big shock!)
Unsurprisingly, after dhoom3, aamir has again gone into an unnatural break pushing /delaying PK –for no major reason
He comes across as a student who keeps dropping year(s) to mug up, sitting at home, avoiding failure and getting a bump in his marks…
So in one stroke
The guy (Salman) who could make any film run just by his presence
And the guy who was the trending/discretion king got cut to size
No wonder the two were caught peeing (away their strengths…)–
1) Hritik Roshan
Now I’m not a v big hritk Roshan fan in a way the aamir or abhishrek or even srk fans operate here.
But I do see and appreciate something good
Carrying a proven franchise dhoom3 (which was a well rounded and supported product in all ways) is much easier
But in krrish3. , the film was good only in certain junctures, the cast/songs/ sensibility left much to desire
Besides the personal and health problems he faced all added up
In a similar juncture, aamir disappeared for years from the scene, went into a nervous breakdown and came back with a underpoerfomaing mangal pande,
But the way hritk has responded to this by his one-man show in k3 and in real life –he’s the winner no 1.
2) SRK
this guy was written off after subpar JTHJ, don2 etc (though even his ‘flops’ were 100+)
And unarguably he was on a decline in more ways than one…
With CE, srk has stemmed the tide
Though greatly aided by rohit shetty and deepika —
Srk is back in the reckoning
Though he is no longer what he used to be (& will never be the same again!) his remnant box office appeal worldwide is more than many current biggies
It’s no wonder that he has been the undisputed king for so long
In my book, srk is the biggest khan all things considered …
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Some ‘RELATIVE’ winners
1) ranbir kapoor –inspite of besharam he has come here to stay. By Yjhd he got his biggest grosser and is clinching a space somewhat like Leonardo dicaprio of Bollywood
He is here for the long haul and has a bright future ahead
2) ranveer Singh
Have liked his presence and energy, didn’t like him much in raam leela, was better in lootere
His latest with PC is alright but nothing great
But when I watched the promo of gun day today, it reconfirmed what I’ve felt–
Jus saw a two second promo of him running..
After hritk and ranbir –he is the one to watch-his best it yet to come
Disclaimer
This piece does not include ex-stars, glorified stars, media stars and star surenames…
Dhoom 3 made close to 250 in first two weeks (which was v good but not that unexpected!) but it’s the post 2 weeks phase, that folks here are trying to hide
Heck the gold standard BOI even stopped releasing figures after that (when inflating them didn’t work!)
This does not include pseudo-stars/’star surnames’…
Those like akshay Kumar and ajay devgun will continue to do well in the right project but they will never be the topmost stars (just like their entire careers!)
TO ADD—
A new entrant in my list–
Saw few minutes of a movie callled ‘shudh desi romance’
May complete it later –parineeti was her usual chirpy and irritating self and the other gal-I didn’t register her…
As usual –I predict early & clear
Saw a few scenes of a guy ….I’ve forgotten his name
But what I do remember is that he has a v good future if he handles himself well..
He can be a poor mans (as of now) mix of hritik and ranbir…
–I suspect he should get some good projects now..has he got any new films.
There comes the ‘thing’…
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It’s one thing not being able to counter something
One option is to stay quiet (like many others do) or even ignore
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The way the truth or other viewpoints unsettles some is interesting
U may not agree to the other viewpoint
But this attempt at pushing some fixed ideas down the throat of others or trying to pass a ‘writ’ is laughable..
As for ‘not answering’ –it can be due to many reasons –main one being ‘not being able to answer…’
salman’s jai ho has no buzz at all,is it the one that got away or is one caught at the time of his first flop.Not a good start when he has back to back blockbusters.
Sensing zero public support in Maharashtra, Samajwadi Party call off its stir against Salman Khan’s film
Sensing zero public support in Maharashtra, Samajwadi Party call off its stir against Salman Khan’s film
Maharashtra unit of Samajwadi Party (SP) which has threatened to disrupt the screening of Salman Khan’s film ‘Jai Ho’ on Thursday, decided to call if off its stir on Friday after receiving no support from even within the party. Party’s move was hugely criticised in social media.
Jai Ho was released peacefully in Maharashtra Friday.
However, the party attributes the change of heart to the “republic day & law order” situation. In a press release on Friday, Zulfikar Azmi, the secretary of state unit of SP, who has shot off a letter to Salman Khan insisting an apology over Khan’s alleged clean chit to Gujarat Chief Minister and BJP’s prime ministerial candidate Narendra Modi, states that the party has decided not to disrupt the screening owing to ‘law and order” situation especially ahead of Republic Day.
An office bearer also claimed that they decided to do away with the stir as Chief Minister personally called them up to reconsider the move.
Zulfikar Azmi’s letter states that the minorities are still angry with Khan due to his clean chit to Modi and party has called of its stir hoping that Salman would respect the public sentiments and apologise to them. Congress has earlier trashed out the Azmi’s move calling him as “galli-ka-neta” and his gimmick-an unsuccessful exercise to retain the sliding minority vote bank.
Interestingly, his office email mentions that stir is being called off due to Independence day.
Fee l a touch sad for Salman here. One could sense from the promos that this was going to be let down. He managed to turn mediocre fare like ETT and absolute trash like Bodyguard into huge BO successes but Jai Looks like is going to under perform. Again, this shows that the irresponsible BO numbers and projections are just that- irresponsible. This was never going to be a D3 just like D3 was never going to gross 300-350 crores.
2) SRK
this guy was written off after subpar JTHJ, don2 etc (though even his ‘flops’ were 100+)
And unarguably he was on a decline in more ways than one…
With CE, srk has stemmed the tide
Though greatly aided by rohit shetty and deepika –
Srk is back in the reckoning
Though he is no longer what he used to be (& will never be the same again!) his remnant box office appeal worldwide is more than many current biggies
It’s no wonder that he has been the undisputed king for so long
In my book, srk is the biggest khan all things considered …
apex,
srk was never in doubt as no 1 of bollywood but one has a saying “what goes up must come down” as you can imagine he is on a free-fall,although CE did well but soon after D3 shattered all box-office ,CE was khatam on 3rd week while D3 was still cruising on its 4th week.so thats a difference in all khans domination,one is on its way out while other is on its way in.
1. Amir khan
2. salman khan ( pre-jai ho ) if it flops it will change hands with srk to 3.
I don’t really agree there Apex. Truly spectacular box office results can be achieved only on 3 or 4 occasions in a year by big stars and properly packaged product releasing at the right time. This is the time when family / masses and generally everyone turn up. Salman blundered in choosing this date as this weekend hardly has any meat and here republic day too falls on a Sunday. Exams are round the corner where parents more into their kid’s studies than planning movie outing. Full advantage of this was at display last year for solo release of CE with Eid K3 in Diwali and D3 during Christmas
Movie watching business now is directly connected to disposable money at hand and apart from one big summer movie after exams its mostly a festival thing for truly spectacular figures.
That’s why there is so much bad blood for these 3 / 4 important dates among stars. Aamir being canny has mastered this art of shifting dates to gauge / suit public mood. Since money is least of his concerns he does not mind shifting releases by good one/ two years to get a big opener.
Dont be surprise Guys….i was telling it for last couple of days that be prepared for shock. Multiplex bookings were just horrendous. And it hasnt improved a bit on saturday aswell.
Be ready for more shock, saturday will be lower than friday as Single screens were at high level and Single screens always come down than first day.
As i was telling, it is going to perform like BOSS on little higher level.
BOSS first day was 12 cr due to excellent SS performance and poor multiplex. Same case here. BOSS wrapped around 57 cr, Jai ho will wrap around 85-90 cr.
Amod Mehra @MehraAmod 13h
#JaI Ho preaches that help 3 people & request them to in turn help 3 more.. the movie is mentally tiring.. I did my bit..now you help 3 more
Other than Aamir (and perhaps SRK on a good day), none of these other superstars are able to attempt ‘zara hatke’ scripts. Makes Talaash BO even more commendable.
“Salman is easily the bigger star than me. In my films everything from story, screenplay, cast, music etc has to be v good for it to do well. All Salman has to do is pull up his belt a few times”.
Aamir was right here. He is most dependant on good scripts, and support system to fire. He couples that with strategic planning, unnatural breaks etc
And I repeat –there’s nothing wrong in that and is a tactic but needs to be seen as that rather than some rocket science.
Salman is least dependant on the film quality (in the brief phase where he is/was at his turbo phase).
However aamir never talks in a similar way about the other khan -the one who matters—
the real mix of star and (over) acting ability –The real thing died in JTHJ …
Ps: as for talaash & ‘shutter island’ etc –c’mon guys give us a break
Note that I enjoyed parts of d3 and liked aamir in parts
In talaash–I loved Aamirs role–infact it is one of my favorite male roles in the past few years…
But let’s get the context right…
Sometimes layers of spin needs to be unravelled to see it
The truth..
Owaisi hate speech against Salman. See what I said earlier about losing out on his fan-bank due to Modi. I did not even know this happened, just thought about the connection with Modi:
Owaisi did not ask critics to give 2 and one and half a star.
The fact is it is a bad film and no use blaming the new heroine either. Singham did tremendous business inspite of a new heroine. ETT was an Yash Raj product with Katrina as icing on the cake and BG had good music and a known heroine and a story too. Merely taking corruption as an issue will bore the audience. We have the real heroes Kejriwal and Anna doing that. Dont need fake heroes who lead ostentatious lives on one hand and preach.
lesson to be learnt when kamal hasan made hey ram people argued but when he made vishwaroopam he literally had to suffered, lesson is clear sabotage the fanbase and finish him
Don’t think his association with Modi had much to do with the subpar opening of Jai Ho..the project did not evoke much interest right from the beginning; not choosing a popular female lead along with poor music made matters worse
Just read comments on that page. There is a lot of hatred against Salman specifically because of the Modi meeting.
I can’t believe that this boycott would have not at all caused a dent in the opening day collections.
what ha hed do in first place in argumnt word should have been there on disruption , films run on entertainment quotient (and people decide the fate not critics let it be good or bad, anywayb salman’s movie never depend on critics anyway)
Well..so if Aamir plans his movie strategically that’s his game plan. No one has stopped any other actors to do so. He did get the strategy right with the promotion and release of Ghajini and get a first 100 cr 6 years ago and then 3I sparked him off into one of the most loved characters and did the BO Trick..what he did with Dhoom3 is took a franchise and elevated it to a level never heard off..had the story been somewhat better..the movie would have cross 300 crore …and those who are saying it didnt trend well ….well 3 30 crore plus days and 3 20 crore plus days is no easy feat either. People enjoyed the movie but didnt love it as 3I.
Hrithik was a saving grace of Krissh3 but overall it was a damp squib movie and whatever the franchise had, he was able to get in terms of BO results. He needs to stage a comeback now with a personal low at this point of time, i have always maintained he has wasted some very important years of his career and allowed others in the space.
SRK..is on a comeback trail..Chennai Express did the trick for him and Happy NY will let him capitalize on that new found mojo..
Salman..Jai Ho was never going to work..i am rooting for him in Kick.
so you guys concluded one community only made salman a superstar. As they backed out, his films flop. Then i must say that community is biggest stupid to make innumerous bad movies like BG, Ready, ETT, Dabangg2 hits.
Also, that community is responsible solely for making an extremely bad actor like sallu a superstar ? Surely, this community has no sense of movies or even otherwise at all.
its a scarcasm(see the earlier link: zero response in maharashtra) to those who used to say same by posting earlier links are carvan and associated his recent rise with same(won’t name person again samajhar ko ishara kafi hai ) and ya narratives can easily be reversed and ya not a word how just on release these demonstration happen mysteriously and speech from no where an how moral like akhtar had gone into oblivion and always attacked congressi rival but not this downpour of hate
thing is unlike other of his its not a festival (eid) release , with a dull movie with no appealing music, picture to old city main bhi release huyi hai ….
btw one more comment edited yesterday on leo with no so fancy things on abhishek bachchan
At last caught up with Wolf of Wall Street. Loved the film and what a performance by Leo! Blew my mind! How could he lay bare the soul of such a crazed character with such accuracy, with every detail so clearly etched out. Full marks to the actress playing Naomi. And respect for Scorsese for managing to capture the testosterone and greed driven male- dominated camaraderie of the brokerage firm, the frenzied energy, the hypnotic cult atmosphere, and the depravity at the core of each character. A thoroughly satisfying film-going experience.
so when i first saw the trailer of Jai Ho and commented that it looked pretty ‘serious’ i was still not expecting it to be as serious as it was! it is so hard to make a movie like this..with this kind of subject…sohail khan attempted and failed miserably(but honestly he never had a chance with his credentials). i love this kind of subject….but not in this mode. this movie needed another kind of treatment…another kind of director…and another kind of lead actor.
on the movie opening less than expected…well 15cr is still damn good! with awful music, no name lead actress, and failed director…this movie had everything going against it at the BO. not sure how it will hold up. this moment reminds me of another sallu film…kyun ki…it might well be just too ‘serious’ to be accepted at the BO. bad sallu films with good music and lots of comedy and entertainment has proven to work at the BO (bodyguard, ready, dabangg 2)…bad sallu films without lots of comedy and good music has proven to fail at the BO (veer, yuvraaj, london dreams, garv, kyun ki).
taran adarsh @taran_adarsh 5h
#JaiHo Fri ₹ 17.55 cr nett. India biz only.
taran adarsh @taran_adarsh 4h
#JaiHo reports are very positive, expecting the biz to witness escalation on Sat. Tomorrow, 26 Jan holiday + Sunday should hit big numbers.
Sometimes in an economy of dirt one should retrieve what one can! Why? Because even though it doesn’t change my opinion of the awards there are often practical consequences to actors or directors (or whoever) getting this kind of limelight. So my assessment on anyone doesn’t change because of these things but opportunities can sometimes be created for people based on this kind of visibility. All within reason of course. Plus remember that the larger cesspool here is Bollywood itself!
Lol, I didn’t check the link till later so for some reason reading your comment made me think Vinod Mehra must have won the lifetime achievement award! So random…
Yes Satyam–good to see Mehra being awarded–the guy is deserving and needs to be encouraged…
Though I’m not happy with farhans choice –agree with somewhat with naseer that Farhan worked v hard and looked like ‘rocky’ that’s fine but that wasn’t milkha …
Also farhans choice also seems the convenient politically correct one to avoid controversy –since there were 3-4 contenders among the big heros –aamir, hr, srk, even ranbir …
Suddenly they have decided not to award the biggest film(s)!
Happy for deepika though I would have liked her to win for Yjhd -for naina talwar–wt say Amy lol
What Naseer would say about Farhan winning the award?
Filmfare awards for politicians.
Best actor award Kejriwal.
Lifetime achievement award Anna.
Jury award for best actor Modi.
Best debut award Kejriwal.
Best child actor award Rahul?
Most controversial Akhilesh?
Expect good jump of 40-50% on sunday. i think saturday will be 15 cr and sunday 22-24 cr.
Weekend total – 54-56 cr
It will be stable on monday in single screens. But will fall big after wards. SS friendly movies are stable on monday. They show actual trend on tuesday. As saturday 30% fall in SS indicate no good response in SS either.
Amod mehra is so funny. For those who dont know he is hardcore srkian. He is srkian.
Amod Mehra @MehraAmod 4h
Aam aadmi sota hua sher hai.. Ungli mat kar.. Jaag gaya to.. Interval main hi ghar chala jayega.. !!
Amod Mehra @MehraAmod Jan 24
#JaI Ho preaches that help 3 people & request them to in turn help 3 more.. the movie is mentally tiring.. I did my bit..now you help 3 more
LOL, I think audience is taking Salman’s & Jai Ho’s message seriously. They are very keen in helping at least 3 people in not wasting their money for this movie 🙂
Jai Ho Second Day Business
Sunday 26 January 2014 10.00 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
Jai Ho had a small drop in business on its second day as it grossed around 16.50 crore nett taking its two day business to around 33.50 crore nett. The business was inmost circuits was similar to Friday with mass circuits being down as they did well on Friday.. The multiplex audience has not taken to the film as they did not gain a lot on Saturday despite being low on Friday
The performance at single screens is better but not outstanding. Sunday is a big holiday for Republic Day so the film should show a good jump.
Sunday is the acid test for Jai Ho and the jump has to be huge. Krrish 3 also suffered a bit in its first three days but showed a huge jump on its fourth day which was a national holiday and that is the sort of thing that is needed by Jai Ho to have a chance of being successful. The chances do look slim as Krrish 3 was hit by pre- diwali festivities in its opening few days but there is no such case here. The plus for the film is that Saturday did not fall a lot so it can’t be written off yet.
The one positive thing here is that for once Taran’s, the producers’ (Eros) and BOI’s number match each other.
Taran tweeted that his sources gave him a total of 16.25cr for Saturday and Eros then provided him with the same total. BOI have Saturday at around 16.5cr.
The Friday numbers were also pretty similar (17.25cr from BOI and 17.5 from Taran).
netaji’s first draft of national anthem was jai ho later rehman in slumdod and now tried to ride but again carrying his brother even dabang2 by arbaz was not a patch of original
Disgusting Communal Analysis by Komal Nahta, he is dirt on film industry.
He blames Salma’s support to Modi for poor opening of Jai Ho.
Komal Nahta @KomalNahta 5h
Figures prove dat a section of Muslims has boycottd salman’s JaiHo coz dey havn’t liked his comments on modi.Wil the hero do damage control?
Komal Nahta @KomalNahta 4h
And what salman said was quite different frm what some fanatics wud hav us believe. He DID NOT say modi shd not apologise
Why not blame Mulayam singh for Jai Ho and Dedh Ishqia flops, Salman and Madhuri attended Saifai Mahotsav dance drama which was widely criticized by both communities and everyone in media aswell.
Clerics: Boycott Salman Khan’s films as star backs Narendra Modi
Mohammed Wajihuddin,TNN | Jan 28, 2014, 01.12 AM
IST MUMBAI:
A section of clerics has asked Muslims to boycott Salman Khan’s films and the products he endorses till he apologises for saying Narendra Modi need not express regret for the 2002 Gujarat riots.
Angry voices have risen from the community since the actor flew kites with the Gujarat CM recently while publicizing his latest movie and seemingly endorsed the BJP leader’s push to be the next prime minister. After calling Modi a “great man” in Ahmedabad, Salman told a news channel last week that there was no need for the CM to apologise for the riots as the judiciary had given him a clean chit.
“Salman’s statement that there is no need for Modi to say sorry for the 2002 riots is provocative and deplorable. It has hurt the sentiments of Muslims and the community should boycott the actor’s present and future films and the products he endorses unless he apologises,” said Maulana Ejaz Kashmiri, a member of the All India Ulema Council and an imam at a mosque in Bhendi Bazaar. Kashmiri has appealed to Muslims not to invite Salman to their social and religious functions.
“Modi will do anything to improve his image among Muslims and secular voters. Did Salman feel the pain of women and children who suffered during the riots? What has he done to rehabilitate the victims?” asked Maulana Khalilur Rahman Noorie, general secretary of the Tanzeem Aima Masajid, an organization of imams.
Salman’s Ahmedabad comments came soon after another storm over his decision to perform at the Samajwadi Party’s Saifai Festival at a time when survivors of the Muzaffarnagar riots were struggling in badly-provided relief camps.
Salman’s father Salim Khan said: “Salman didn’t say anything outrageous. Does anybody remember the many CMs during whose rule several communal riots happened? They remember Modi because he has won elections and is aiming to become PM.”
The call hasn’t gone down well with some. Zafar Sareshwala, a diehard Modi supporter, said: “Salman is a soft target and maulvis don’t have better things to do than attack Salman Khan.”
Saw Jai Ho here in Illinois State university town with all the indian student crowd many of whom are Bhai fans…the film is a disgraceful B grade film. Salman made a big mistake trusting his brother with the remake…he should have asked AR Murugodoss for direction as he would have made more tighter movie…
People go crazy in the film there’s actors in Wholesale…Pulkit Samrat, Sharad Kapoor, Aditya Pancholi, Ashmit Patel,etc etc etc…who show up and do their bit.
It felt like Sandhi Sudha commercial wherein they pack tv actors for telling good things about the product..
Salman and his fights in the end, Danny and Tabu are the better part of the film…
Dont get me started on crappy music crappy heroine…
Salman you cannot take audience for granted…i will watch and spedn for you if you offer a good entertainment package deal…not this and stop working with your brothers…they killed ur Dabbang franchise…unless you get Abhinav Kashyap or someone else and Sohail Khan should stick to Comedy Circus…
‘disgraceful B grade film’ ‘Sandhi Sudha commercial’ ‘crappy music crappy heroine…’
What are you talking bout about?
Trade Analyst and Film Critic Komal Nahta thinks it is Modi.
I think Sunday is more than 25 cr.
Kanpur jumps 100% on sunday as compared to Friday.
Sunday > Friday + Saturday
Girish Johar @girishjohar 23m
KANPUR (JAI HO) Sunday Multiplexes-1310978 Single Screen-742881 TOTAL-2053859 3days Total-3979698.50
JANUARY 26, 2014, 12:56 PM
‘I, Frankenstein’ Disappoints at the Box Office
By BROOKS BARNES
Talk about a corpse. Moviegoers this weekend largely stayed away from the newly released “I, Frankenstein” (Lionsgate), which generated just $8.3 million in ticket sales, for sixth place — a terrible result for a movie that cost $65 million to make and tens of millions more to advertise. Lakeshore Entertainment and Hopscotch Features shouldered almost all costs. Box office analysts posited on Sunday that the target audience, young men, simply had little interest in seeing Mary Shelley’s undead monster re-imagined as an action hero; abysmal reviews didn’t help.
The two top-selling movies in North America over the weekend were “Ride Along” and “Lone Survivor,” both holdovers from Universal. “Ride Along” took in about $21.2 million, for a two-week total of $75.4 million, according to Rentrak, which compiles box office data. “Lone Survivor” had ticket sales of $12.6 million, for a five-week total of about $93.6 million. A pair of animated movies were next: “The Nut Job” (Open Road) took in an estimated $12.3 million, for a two-week total of $40.3 million, and “Frozen” (Disney) sold about $9 million in tickets, lifting its 10-week total to $347.8 million. In fifth-place, “Jack Ryan: Shadow Recruit” (Paramount) had ticket sales of $8.8 million, for a disappointing two-week total of $30.2 million.
New Delhi: Aamir Khan-starrer ‘3 Idiots’ has been nominated for the 37th Japan Academy Awards in the best Outstanding Foreign Language Film category.
According to the awards’ official website, ‘3 Idiots’, mentioned as “I’m sure, go well”, has been nominated with international movies like ‘Captain Phillips’, ‘Django Unchained’, ‘Gravity’ and ‘Les Miserables’
Jai Ho Does Very Well On Sunday
Monday 27 January 2014 10.30 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
Jai Ho had a good weekend thanks to very good business on Sunday which was a national holiday. The film collected 17 crore nett on Friday and 16 crore nett on Saturday and the Sunday total as per early estimates is around 25 crore nett.
This will give weekend figures of around 58 crore nett so despite the initial not quite being that great, the weekend is actually challenging to be the highest ever for a Salman Khan dstarrer epending on what the final total for Sunday is.
Dabangg 2 grossed 58.50 crore nett in three days while Ek That Tiger grossed 56 crore nett and the figures of Jai Ho are around the same as Dabangg 2 depending on the final Sunday total. The business on Sunday has meant that the film has a chance of doing well which did not look the case after the first two days. A lot is dependent on the Monday as the jury is still out on the appreciation of the film as it only did the sort of business it should have on the big holiday while the other two days were below the mark.
Approximately 25cr Sunday for Jai Ho according to BOI. So, probable 58-59cr week end. The strong Sunday figures have made the week end business look decent.
Consolidated response to many points made with regards to Dhoom 3, Aamir Khan etc:
In responses to Apex’s many posts on how Dhoom 3 underperformed:
Firstly, it has clearly overperformed, in the sense that it grossed more than what everyone had predicted immediately after its release. It is the biggest grosser domestically and internationally, with more than two dozen records broken. If that is underperformance then we need to relook at words and their meanings. Who deserves the credit for its success? Obviously everyone who has contributed: Aamir, Vijay Krishna, Katrina in that order. Pritam, Abhishek, Uday have done their bit. This is one film where Aamir was criticized for hogging the film all to himself, being there in everyb frame and all that, so naturally he deserves the most credit for the film’s success.
Could it have done better. For sure. It indeed could have done 300 cr and more. If it was an independent film not tied to the apron strings of the Dhoom frnachise. But in exact opposition to what Apex thinks, it si the franchise that has set the limitation. After all, the real breakaway hits are never sequels: Sholay, DDLj, HAH, Gadar, 3 Idiots…Star Wars, Titanic, Avatar. A sequel can be a big hit, nota stratospheric hit. Looking at Dhoom 3 itself, what are the elements that worked the most? The drama, the emotins, the staging, songs like Kamli and Malang. None of which originate from the franchise. What work the least? The motor cycle chase, the action sequences…the elements that are carried over from the franchise. Even in terms of giving the film a good opening, I believe that a YRF production with Aamir and Katrina, showcased through Kamli, Malang anda few dramtic sequences would have got as big an opening. Ghajini and 3 idiots did that, right? And without the Dhoom baggage, the basic story of the great Indian circus centered around Sahir/Samir, their father and Aaliya could have emerged tighter, more powerful , leading to a overall more satisfying film and better trending, like Ghajini and 3 Idiots.
Next I would like to second Satyam when he says that Aamir is the only actor who makes films that are not comedy-capers blockbusters. Satyam mentions Ghajini. I would add Dhoom 3 to the list as well. It is the dram that works there as well. In fcat over the last decade, Aamir is the only actor who makes drama as a genre work. Whether it is TZP, Fanaa, RDB, Talaash or Dhoom 3…there is no other actor who makes serious dram work the way Aamir does. Salman’s failure in this territory has already been documented by someone here. Even for Shahrukh while Chak De ( which is really a sports caper than a human drama) succeeded; MNIK, KANK, Swades did not. The only other actor today who makes drama works is Ranbir. Whether it is Rajneeti, Rockstar or Barfi…he can draw people to watch him in a serious story. Bombay Velvet to establish this more strongly. As for Shahrukh, after Om Sahnti Om and Chennai Express, he has to depend on fluff again in Happy New Year.
if ghajini worked so has agneepath…historicals like ashoka and mangal pandey didn’t but jodha akbar did also before rajneeti gangajal and apharan brought 2 national awards to someone…rokstar was not a universal sucess and neither was rocket singh…barfi yes but not dark
cdi was as much a drama and i say always getting a family movie to be a big grosser is easy as it covers very genre ….why so much emphasis on comic capers did andaj apna apna worked or an adult comedy delhi belly outgrosses a masti franchise
rockstar: Yes agneepath worked. And that was drama. But its success was nowhere near Ghajini. Still I will grant that Hritik made that work. But that is just one. Jodha Akbar was a historical romance. Those have always worked. Mughal-EAzam was a runaway blockbuster in that genre. Mangal Pandey has to be cpmpated to Asoka, Legend of Bhagat Singh etc and Mangal Pandey is the most successful among them. I will agree that Ajay can make drama work. So can a few others. But we are talking of scale of success and number of serious drama one has succeeded with, both artistically and commercially. And Aamir is ahead of the rest there. Delhi Belly has an IMDB rating of 7.7 vs 4.3 of Grand Masti. And Delhi Belly was in English, with a few prints in Hindi. Still it did some 60 cr three years back. So when you look at artistic and commercial success, it is much ahead.
no utkal original memento was neo noir not packaged masala which we had in india…for every mea there have been numerous failure on historical romances and unlike bhagat singh mangal pandey had romance
db had its share of cheapness and inspiration(lock stock and snatch)…
rockstar: Having romance and being a historical romance are two different things. The anme Jodha-Akbar itself tells what genre of film it is. having said that I do give credit to Hritik ( and Aishwarya) for making JA work. No two ways about it. But, no Delhi Belly did NOT have cheapness, what it had was smartness. and waht is wring with inspiration? Is Pather Panchali any less a film because it was inspired y Bicycle Thieves.
dialogues like “isne mere ch….sa hai’ and introduction of hero when he is busy licking “c….s” in blanket with dose on potties, homosexuality and gangster touch
what is there in name as said by shakespeare
(though he himself has his name written before it)…its not like what rushdie has written where he made it erotic(jodha bai)
Jai Ho grossed 58 crore nett approx over its first weekend. The business at multiplexes was only strong on Sunday which was a national holiday. The first two days at multiplexes left a lot to be desired.
The biggest question now is that is the growth on Sunday all to do with the national holiday or is there some appreciation for the content of the film. The next couple of days will be the deciding factor.
Jai Ho fared best in Mumbai as the Gujarat/Saurashtra belt did excellent business but quite a few circuits performed below par. Below is the first weekend territorial breakdown of Jai Ho.
Jai Ho has grossed similar figures to Dabangg 2 over the first weekend with the big difference being that Dabangg 2 was a normal weekend while Jai Ho had the advantage of a big national holiday on its Sunday.
If we compare with Ek Tha Tiger its a similar situation as that film was released midweek so had a big first day but saw collections come down on the next two working days. It was also pre-eid so Ek That Tiger which affected collections
So although the collections of Jai Ho are similar to Dabangg 2 and Ek Tha Tiger, the weekend was also favourable for Jai Ho with Dabangg 2 having no holidays and Ek Tha Tiger having a midweek release. Below are the first weekend territory figures for Jai Ho, Dabangg 2 and Ek Tha Tiger.
Girish Johar @girishjohar 1m
I hope that I have to update for more tomorrow, as very very #earlytrends suggest a rough estimate of 8.5crs aprox for Monday #JaiHo
Looks like multiplex fall on Monday is Huge.
76% fall compared to Sunday, 70.5% fall from Saturday, 60.5% fall from Friday in Multiplex Dominated Gurgaon.
Girish Johar @girishjohar 1h
Gurgaon Mon #JaiHo TOTAL – 749591
Nahta is doing something repulsive.. he’s claiming that Muslims stayed away from the film because of the Modi remarks and hence this box office result:
Irrespective of what the mullahs say the vast majority of the film audience doesn’t boycott films on these grounds! Here’s a film that didn’t excite anybody to begin with. Of course this is merely the flip-side of the communal card where the same folks always insinuate that there’s a larger than normal cross-section of the Muslim audience when it comes to Salman’s releases. There’s a lot of coded ‘Eid’ language on this score. The film was never hot (by Salman’s current standards). It’s rather despicable to play the communal card at this point.
there’s a family connection here as well. Salim Khan had high praise for Modi sometime back though he made it clear it was a personal relationship. In the video he’s clearly backtracking at points..
of course his idea that no one says anything when others go while they question him because he’s a Muslim is disingenuous. For reasons too obvious to spell out.
I think Nahata is saying an uncomfortable truth,IMO. The film HAS suffered on this account because communal elements have exploited Salman’s comments. The impact in terms may not be huge but I am sure is there. It is not that the average Muslim fan is communal
But they do allow tbeir insecurity to be exploited by their teligious leaders and parties like Congress and Samajwadi party.
SRK actually attracts the communal Muslim fans and fanatics far more, partly rated to his pandering and shameless politics. Salman and Aamir are favored more by the progressive
And overall more intelligent Muslims.
The film hasn’t flopped Infact far from it. This again shows Salman’s mega stardom. A nothing heroine, poor music (Salman films generally have rocking music) and whoever cut the trailer /s needs to be fired. The film is much more than an action film.
I still expect 140 minimum. All those who endorse the ‘trending theory’ (which I think is BS) should have no problems with this film. It made 60 weekend and will comfortably double it. However, Salman on current form should be doing much better.
His next Kick already looks much better. Jacky heroine, Randeep Hooda and Nawazudin in the cast. Plus Nadiadwala will make the film on a large scale.
P.S Komal Nahta should seriously STFU with the nonsense he’s come out recently.
140 will be tough IMO. It might just touch 110 crs with the usual drops. Tuesday is the key day. Monday looks to be around 9 crs but largely due to Single Screens. If they drop Tuesday will be around 7cr and then even 110 will be difficult.
I wouldn’t know about the original as I don’t watch Tamil/Telugu films. I’m geared up for Kick because Nadiadwala will put his money where his mouth is. Jai Ho looked cheap in production values something which Nadiadwala has never done in all the films he’s produced.
Plus he’s hired Chetan Bhaghat to work on the screenplay and Rajat Arora to pen the dialogues. Now it may all turn out poorly but the effort to bring in such people etc can be seen. The rajishri film is around 18 months away.
Lastly, I still can’t fathom how Jai Ho had such a low opening day. Salman with every film was opening bigger and bigger and 17 is totally not what I expected.
That 40 mark will be breached this year. I suspect 4 films have a chance as all these 4 films also open on a holiday.
Kick, Bang Bang, HNY and PK. If I were a betting man I’d say PK 😛
Hirani’s films generally don’t have the absolute biggest openings (on day 1) but it might be that the post-3I wave is strong enough to overcome this.
On the rest even the strongest stars can’t overcome everything. If people had liked Jai Ho enough a relatively weak day 1 wouldn’t have meant as much. Will say though that I’d be surprised if Salman were able to replicate his Dabangg through ETT phase going forward. At least on those initials. He’ll still get strong ones but the absolute biggest ones are questionable. Now what could change this is if he has a truly big hit at some point, not just an initial thing. Kick I suspect is not good enough as a film to do this (though I haven’t seen the Telugu original). Barjatya is a while away but also Salman has moved away from that paradigm. His masala avatar is light years removed from Barajtya’s world. He could still get a good success here but it’s not likely to be the sort of thing that excites a universal audience. Plus Barjatya himself is passé. The Salman key after Dabangg was always doing something half-decent (high proportion of tried and tested remakes and so on) and getting by on massive initials and a half-decent follow-through. The problem is that half-decent doesn’t last too long in the absence of proper hits along the way (which audiences really like). Still he’s generated enough steam to put up big numbers for a while. I would just be surprised if it’s anything like the phase he’s had before Jai Ho, either on initials or in absolute terms. Not that this is a knock on him. this late in the day one can’t do much better than him. And unlike SRK he was less project-dependent. So SRK can get big numbers with CE (with a Shetty who had more 100 crore films than anyone else) or in a Farah Khan circus but nothing else after OSO could get this done. I certainly don’t expect films like Fan or the other one he’s doing with Farhan Akhtar to be major in this sense. But he might be smart enough to combine modest success in those kinds of films with these large scale efforts and it’s not a bad plan at all. Ultimately a star can conquer everything but age. The options just start narrowing one way or the other. With Aamir it’s always about the project so it’s a different deal. And even he won’t be able to do at 50 what he was able to do at 40 or 45. There are limits to these things. Even the greatest superstars can’t conquer age.
^Christmas falls on a Thursday this year I think and if that is the opening day, All initial records are gone imo. Same goes for HNY and Bang Bang as both are releasing on a Thursday or Friday holiday.
would be very surprised if it got to 140 from this point.. Doubt it does more than 125 or so even in the best case scenario. Unless of course it has some core level of support at the lower level.
In any case you seem to be disagreeing with Salman!
You’d think Salman Khan would’ve learned by now not to work in his brother’s films. I know he’s a big family man and what not but at the most Sohail/Arbaaz could produce Sallu’s movies, definitely not direct them.
Kick looks really good-good star cast, high budget and I’m expecting a couple of chartbusters from it. Also Nadiadwala has a good track record and Chetan Bhagat writing the script is a bonus. I heard Bhagat is also wrote the script for 2 States (in addition to writing the book), If that movie turns out well then at least on the script level, Kick should be decent. Sallu+Eid+Hit Music= Maxing out the opening day BO. Also this needing an established heroine thing is BS imo, what about Dabangg? OSO? RNBDJ? Ghajini? Granted that all those movies had actresses 1000x better than Daisy Shah but they were still newcomers.
Kick could certainly work (I mean in terms of trending, not just the initial). On the rest even Dabanng did not double its initial like Ghajini or OSO. So even with all those hugely iconic, cult moments it wasn’t able to do this. RNBDJ never opened that big. It trended very well though.
But what does that have to do with having an established actress? And RNBDJ had the highest 1st week at the time until Ghajini came along 2 weeks later…
Komal Nahta is hot headed and classeless. I’ve seen the language he uses to respond to tweets against him. I’d take TA over KM any day although both suck.
The package deal has to work….Sallu, Nadiadwala.Jackie.Chetan Bhagat.Good Music..that will be the KICK in KICK. Salman has to detach himself from his brothers, they bring him down…Arbaaz or Sohail are useless and don’t know a thing about direction. A Jai HO with PrabhuDeva or AR Murugodoss directing would have produced great results then Sohail Khan whose only acheivement is make sure he casts every tom dick and harry every existed around him and pull them bhai ke ahsaano tale..this movie is sheer stupidity on Salman’s part and he should now destroy records with KICK and Sooraj Barjatya movie as that has Deepika with him to lend support.
Hansal Mehta who has challenged the Censor Board through RTIs feels films attached to big corporate houses are being treated differently from films from independent directors.
Shahid’s belatedly-celebrated director Hansal Mehta has filed an RTI (Right To Information) requesting information in why Sanjay Leela Bhansali’s Goliyon Ki Raasleela Ram Leela was given a ‘UA’ certificate. The CBFC has replied, says Hansal, “I got a response from the Censor Board Of Film Certification (CBFC). They are supposed to send you a response to your RTI on exactly the 30th day. I am afraid the response is in very poor English. From what I understood the justification given in the letter is that there are other films with kissing and violence given a ‘UA’ certificate. But my dispute is not about the content of Ram Leela. It’s about why my film Shahid was given an ‘A’ certificate. The film’s message needed to reach itself to young boys. 13-14 year old boys get brainwashed into joining terror organizations. I had hoped they’d learn from Shahid’s experiences.”
Not willing to stop there Hansal has also filed an RTI asking to know why Shoojit Sircar’s Madras Café was granted a ‘UA’ certificate.
While Bhansali and Mehta don’t know one another well enough, the RTI does put a strain on the friendship between Mehta and Shoojit Sircar.
Taking time off from shooting his new film City Lights on a road in Byculla in Mumbai, Hansal took time off to explain, “I want to clarify that I’ve nothing against Sanjay Bhansali or Ram Leela. I liked Ram Leela. As for my other RTI, I loved Madras Café and Shoojit Sircar is an old friend. My objections to the seemingly arbitrary decisions of the CBFC. My battle is with the CBFC. It started with Ram Leela where there was violence kissing and double-meanings. I enjoyed Ram Leela. My problem is, why was a different yardstick used against my film?”
Shockingly Hansal imputes a communal slant to the censorship code. “People on Twitter have said there cannot be the same yardstick for a Muslim protagonist as a Hindu. There is a theory that Indians don’t want to watch films which feature Muslim protagonists. The Examining Committee of the CBFC asked me to remove Shivaji Maharaj’s name from the dialogues of Shahid when his name was not used in any derogatory or incriminating way. Unless I removed the name they refused to grant me a certificate although I explained the context of the reference. What is the whole point behind inviting a filmmaker to a screening while censoring? The idea is to let the filmmaker explain the context of a scene, shot or dialogue that seems controversial. But the censor board was not willing to listen to me. They had come there with their biases and communal prejudices. I refused to cut Shivaji’s name out. I went to the Revising Committee. The then CEO of the CBFC apologized to me. But then they said they’d give me an ‘A’ certificate because Shahid according to them, was very violent. Where was the violence in Shahid?”
Hence, Hansal’s next RTI against Shoojit Sircar’s Madras Café. “The violence in this film is shockingly graphic. I had to send my sons to another room while I was watching Madras Café. At the very beginning there’s a shot of a child being shot. I am not questioning Shoojit’s right to have that sequence. But if this kind of violence gets him an ‘UA’ certificate why not my Shahid?”
Then Hansal makes a slamming insinuation. “When I took Shahid to the CBFC, UTV had not acquired my film. I had gone to the censors on my own. I feel that’s the reason my film was treated so harshly. I feel when a film is co-produced by a corporate house the CBFC is lenient. Ram Leela and Madras Café had Eros and Vicom 18 behind it. But when I asked UTV to fight the censorial decision on Shahid they advised me against it.”
So is Hansal accusing the censor board of corruption?
Says Hansal, “I can’t say that because I’ve no proof. But there is definitely something wrong here. There is enough circumstantial evidence to suggest something seriously amiss. I know the law after shooting for Shahid. So I know what I’m doing. I am filing multiple RTIs against the CBFC. I am also putting an RTI for Grand Masti. I want to understand the criteria for censor certifications.”
Hansal says he wants transparency in the censorship. “I’ve asked the CBFC for the minutes of their meetings while censoring films. I’ve got the minutes for Ram Leela. They are very very sketchy. I hope to see some transparency in the matter of censorship. This is to exorcise my own demons. I don’t want to wallow in the assumption that something is gravely wrong in the way the CBFC treated Shahid. Very honestly I am not doing this for anyone else except me. I am not Arvind Kejriwal. If my battle helps other filmmakers I’d be happy.”
Reports have been reaching our ears that Martin Scorsese’s finance-sector-excess yarn The Wolf of Wall Street has been packing them in – to the extent that getting hold of a ticket in some cinemas seems almost as impossible as acquiring a Lemmon 714 quaalude. (When you’ve managed to see the film, that’ll make more sense.)
It certainly roared in to the No 1 spot on its first weekend in the UK, driving its Porsche across three parking spaces, falling semi-paralysed on to the street and obliterating the competition with some £4.6m. That’s actually the third biggest 18-certificate opening ever in the UK, after Hannibal and Bruno; and boy, is The Wolf of Wall Street 18-certificate. Drugs, sex, nudity and seemingly endless swearing. It’s a raucous Saturday-night event movie, the like of which we haven’t seen for years.
First half of the movie is very mediocre and at places confusing due to bad direction / poor editing The chalta hai attitude is evident all over the movie with left over cast and general bhaigiri in filmmaking. Nadira Babbar cannot even say a line properly. Salman has acted well and ended the movie well otherwise this was heading into disaster zone.
But overall the movie is no better and not much worse than the previous ones we have seen with exception of Wanted. The difference here is just the release timing otherwise this too would sail to 140-150 cr easily. But he is too exposed on tv lately which should be minimized as people are getting used to watch him for free.
Salman needs a Rajshri and a hum aapke haain kaun kind of deal to keep up with competition because masala is done deal now. That’s his only shot at these big box office numbers. Rest all will remain under 200.
Lately on tv appearances he seems to have lost a lot of weight and looking in best shape. He definitely has 3 / 4 years at the top at the minimum. Incidentally he has the same notion on festivities and no money for poor box-office numbers which I was talking earlier
‘But he is too exposed on tv lately which should be minimized as people are getting used to watch him for free.’
LOL. Most ridiculous fanatic filth i ever read.
‘Fanatic filth’ really?? I am don’t much follow your comments, so don’t know where you are coming from with such strong words…
Raghav, if you have access to Indian TV channels then you will notice leaving aside the movie promotions bit which is excessive anyway for all (D3 being a conscious exception), Salman has been on tv non stop for last 3 / 4 months either due do big boss show and its fair share of controversies, fighting, patching and hugging srk , kwk quotes , doing a lot of stage shows for awards and then with a constant segment on him by these trp hogging news channel nearly each day.
Where is the novelty of watching your hero on big screen?
We are constantly cribbing why are so many big starrer bad movies ending up as huge grossers lately? Most of these are event movies and during festivities one way or the other most turn up to watch them and it’s also become a family thing and budgeted in accordingly.
I can’t think of any movie except 3- Idiots which was a decent watch in last 5 years.
I may have overdone it in this comment but there was nothing wrong. What MSDhoni wrote here ‘People are getting to see Bhai on TV for Free’
LOL if this is the standard here, it gives a sense of Bollywood is prostitution.
Bye.
“I may have overdone it in this comment but there was nothing wrong”
Aren’t you contradicting yourself?! Anyway you and I are in agreement on the first half of that sentence. You don’t need to go anywhere, you have been putting up useful stuff otherwise. But it’s upto you.
Salman notions on my fans dont have money is stupid. He fails to understand the basics of over exposure, over promotion and on top of that bad movie. Ek tha Tiger worked really well because it was not promoted on the same lines as Jai Ho..hopefully he will learn and his next movie has a 200 cr on it.
I consider myself extremely lucky to have seen Om Dar-Ba-Dar in the theatre last week. And it’s true that after more than 2 decades since it was made, Kamal Swaroop’s film is as ‘experimental’ as Indian cinema gets- Kashyap’s and Q’s (Kaushik Mukherjee) films are not half as radical as this one. But the reason why I loved it so much was behind all the visual gimmickry etc, this is a film which really invents a new way of ‘spinning a yarn’. it really unearths that one art which has died in Indian cinema (and pop-culture)- that of story-telling. And behind all the metaphors, this thankfully is a ‘children’s tale’ (but of course, not only for children). Everyone should see this film ASAP IMO.
Also checked out Q’s Tasher Desh. I hadn’t cared for Q’s earlier Gandu at all- found it nothing more than an exercise in shocking the audience. But to my surprise, this is a far more matured work. Tagore’s work (the titular play) is completely reinvented here- I kept peeling off one allegorical layer after another in the film. And the visuals itself are the price of the ticket.
Ari Folman’s “The Congress” is a masterpiece and one of the summits of animation filmmaking is concerned. And dare I say it’s as good as Waltz With Bashir. The live-action and animation hybrid really works because the film itself is half dream-half nightmare. And it really takes one deep inside the hell-holes of ‘movie business’. And yes, it really bends the sci-fi genre almost to a fault.
I am almost kicking myself that I didn’t see ‘Summer Wars’ earlier. I think this is not just one of the Anime films I have ever seen, but in my view it’s easily one of the best sci-fi films from the last 10-15 years. Atleast the one which makes you contemplate the most (alongwith Gattaca and Upstream Colour). This might just become one of my all time favourite films
Also loved both All is Lost and Mud. So apart from a great sci-fi film (Gravity) and a landmark film on a sort of taboo topic (12 Years…), what is truly heartening is that Hollywood has produced 2 films in ‘American’ genres which were clearly dying as of late- Survival films (All is Lost) and adventure films (Mud).
Arnab’s interview with RG where the latter tried his best to irritate everyone with his woman empowerment rhetoric.
Vishal Dadlani’s tweet.
Faking News making merry.
SAurabh: ‘after more than 2 decades since it was made, Kamal Swaroop’s film is as ‘experimental’ as Indian cinema gets- Kashyap’s and Q’s (Kaushik Mukherjee) films are not half as radical as this one. : Totally agree. I too caught it in the theater and I was seeing it on big screen for the first time. What a gorgeous film it turned out to be. AK Bir and Nakul Kamte have done a fabulous restoration job. And much as I admire Kashyap this is a work in a much higher league. And one can also see how much Kashyap has borowed from Swarup, right from the brass band wedding song in Dev D to all the English-Hindi word play in songs to names like Atlas. A true classic if ever there was one in Hindi cinema.
25% Fall in Varanasi and 15% fall in Kanpur.
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A source said, “Sooraj is very keen to have Deepika on board and so is Salman, but the former wants Deepika to assign 120 days for the film’s shoot from June onwards and it doesn’t look like she will be able to pull it off as she will be shooting for Imtiaz’s film from July to December.”
Construction of the film’s set has already begun at ND studio, adds a source close to the production house. “Nitin Desai is the film’s art director and shooting for the film will begin in May. About 60 to 70 per cent of the film will be shot in the studio,” says the source.
To add to this, buzz has it that Ritesh Sidhwani and Farhan Akhtar want to sign Deepika Padukone for a film under their banner. “Shooting for the film will begin in December and Deepika should be able to sign on the dotted line.
poor girl! with such wonderful offers – really hard to choose – i think filmmakers shd adjust within themselves if they all want deepika – sooraj’s film she must do and so aamir’s film also..
I think for Sooraj’s film they can take Shraddha kapoor who is a natural actress.Aamir can also try Shraddha Kapoor, Prachi Desai and the like for a change. Katrina successfully challenged deepika’s reign with her act in dhoom 3 and there is Sonakshi Sinha who can spring a surprise if there is a good script. Deepika is somewhat like Ash and she needs special projects to showcase her.
sooraj + salman can easily shatter D3’s record mind it – this is no less lethal combo than the best and DP’s goodluck can ride them safely to a HAKHK kinda deal –
Jai Ho Tuesday Business
Wednesday 29 January 2014 10.30 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
Jai Ho had a noticeable drop on Tuesday as it grossed around 7.25 crore nett taking the five day total to a little over 74 crore nett. The first week will finish around 85 crore nett as the next two days should add around 11 crore nett with a 15% drop on each day.
The second weekend is very important for it to put up a good to decent final total. A 150 crore nett total is out of the question however the film is in a better position than the first two days where the film looked heading towards a little over 100 crore.
There is just film One By Two releasing this week and that will not be much competition so that Friday total and Saturday growth will tell where the second week is going. At the moment the film is trending towards a similar total like Ready but a big Saturday and Sunday this week can take it higher than Ready which grossed 120 crore nett approx.
What is the actual figure for Kkrish 3? If it is around 240 crores, still it is a major hit and blockbuster. Jai Ho crossing 120 is also good as it has mixed reports and not a great initial to start with. Superstars still rule.
Jai Ho needs around 220 crores to be declared a hit. The cost for distributors was around 100 crores. This is a tank of epic proportions…there is no two ways about it
Even with a 100 crore gross, Salman and co. will make a killing out of Jai Ho. Fast forwarded through it last night, and it looks like Salman just hired friends and family, from Daisy Shah (was an extra in one of his movies) to Aditya Panscholi (whose son he is launching despite the Jia Khan affair). As a film, it’s probably (no, certainly) the worst thing I have ever seen. Watched the whole things in 11 minutes.
Anyway, Salman is definitely using the “Pay It Forward” logic to his advantage 🙂
The supporting cast also included never-beens like Ashmit Patel, some dude from Hum Saath Saath Hain, and a bunch of others you probably haven’t seen in the last 15 years. Tabu and Danny were the only actor in the whole movie.
“Deepika is somewhat like Ash and she needs special projects to showcase her.” No. Ash never had 4 big hits in a single year. and Deepika can shine in any project today, special or not so special. she can make a Ram-Leela or a Race 2 work.
The last year had been hers. What about the previous years?
During those times, she was one of them.
I think luck smiled on her and she is the right person at the right time. She has good co stars like ranbir, srk and ranveer.
Yes, she is one surprise packet. Her rise is coincided with the fall of Priyanka Chopra and Kareena Kapoor who are her rivals while Katrina still is competition in some genres. Anushka is not hot anymore and Sonakshi is stuck up. while Asin has lost completely. Both Salman and Deepika are surprise hits.
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The distributors have paid 95cr + P&A for the theatrical rights of #Jai Ho.. So it will have to do 240cr Nett worldwide to just break even..
Dsitributors stand to lose here inspite of an okayish performance at the BO. Becasue they pay such huge ubrealistic prices.
If Jai Ho makes 120 crores, is not a flop in my books. But of course, if I try telling that to a distributor who paid huge prices, he wont look at me in a friendly manner:-)
Again, it is a friendly reminder that we get too carried away by one or two extraordinary BO performances and think there is an endless amount of money to be made at the BO. Felt similarly dursing the 300 and 350 crore talk around D3 time. Getting past 250 is going to be an enormous task for even HNY and PK.
It aint that simple or that easy,dummy!
I’d disagree somewhat here. It’s not easy for sure but when you look at the kinds of films that don’t make it is it any surprise that they don’t? No matter how massive the initial you still need a fairly good film to have some sort of decent trending. But it’s true otherwise that given the average quality of the big Bollywood production you can spike things enough to get a big initial but then run out of steam quickly. Alternatively a good film that doesn’t have the mind-blowing initial would need very strong trending on just a ‘good’ initial to get to that stratosphere of 250+ or more. So I guess what I’m saying is that you are right but this reflects the current state of Bollywood production decisions (and so forth) more than anything else. Also a certain corollary holds. While it is hard for films to cross 250 (even with 150+ week 1 numbers) it is equally hard for the same films not to cross a 100 unless they’re utter and total disasters. How often does that happen? If 150+ is possible in week 1 for a number of big films then we can’t possibly celebrate the same ones for crossing a 100. Looked at another way it’s creditable that Barfi or BMB did a 100. But Salman in his best box office phase doing 20-25 more than this (assuming best case scenario) is some kind of failure. I think the problem is that we still tend to treat these 100, 200 bars as absolute ones applicable for all films. Even when we don’t mean to this is the narrative that surrounds us. And so unconsciously at the very least it has an effect. Now on Jai Ho if it can get to 130 or more it would at least indicate some support at the lower end. It could certainly be that it remains stable at its current level. But this isn’t the kind of low bar a star in Salman’s position can be celebrated for reaching.
More generally I’ve always felt these bars meant something only if one took trending into account. otherwise just depending on the initial a film will cross 250 or 200 or whatever given enough time. But these benchmarks are meaningful only if there has been some trending along the way.
I’d finally add that there is some jadedness setting in with all these ‘big bang’ films. OSO trended pretty well in 2007, doubled the initial and a bit more. But I doubt the same OSO could double its initial today if it opened to a 150 or so in week 1 or even a bit less than this. And so Farah Khan ought to be careful with HNY! other than Ghajini and 3I no big film has doubled its initial. Not even Dabangg!
I think in relative terms 200 cores for a Bollywood film is like 400 million domestic total for a Hollywood film and 250 and 300 crores are like 600 and 800 million. Plenty of successful films but some milestones are very diffcult to impossible even for the most liked films. No matter how they get there.
Even the sanest amongst us fall into this trap that based on X , a total of Y is possible. But, there is a limit that inches forward somewhat slowly. It took a long while to pass Ghajini and then,3I tho there was candidate every week that was supposed to do it
Same will hold for D3.
The 100 crore plus myth seems to create false ideas about hits. If the cost is epic, then 100 crores or even 200 crores wont show the real picture. It is like scoring 10 out of 30 than 10 out of 10. The 100 crores shows only starpower pulling crowds rather than real profit.
I feel like Eros has lost money on every single movie they’ve distributed these past few years-Jai Ho, Ram Leela (Heard that the cost was 85 crores), R..Rajkumar, Lootera etc.
Its wrong notion to think a lot of money is being lost in film indsutry , unless there are absolute duds like Yuvraaj, TMK or Kites etc. If that were the case Shahid Kapoor with his huge number of flops would never be getting any movies by now.
The reason stars are charging so much money and budget has increased to such high level suddenly is due to a lot of new avenues to get the investment back and filmmakers / stars know this. Theatrical revenue is just part of the overall picture and there is money flowing in through satellite rights, overseas huge market, music, DVD sales etc. Due to tremendous ad revenues and reruns on satellite cable, movies have become a very lucrative business. on tv
There may be few end losers in the chain on few projects, but some of the big names in the industry now make sure this does not happen and price adjustments are made towards the end so no one comes out with a big loss, though not making money on such product is considered a loss too.
SRK, Aamir and Salman have been distributors darling not for any reason but fairplay when they make sure no one in the chain loses money. Jai Ho may have been sold for a high price but if you see the movie I doubt the budget there is excessive and most of the movie shot on sets/indoors. Now how Sohail Khan does the end adjustment in pricing is what will make him creditable in the market next time around.
It’s not that simple. Hollywood with far more revenue streams offered the same sort of logic in the 90s after a number of big budget films either went bust or under-performed. This had an effect in the industry for many years. for a long time in the following decade a lot of big movies were co-produced by two big studios. But once again things have gone out of whack. Spielberg and Lukas said last year that the current Hollywood model was unsustainable unless ticket prices were really jacked up on the big films. There was a report on the Avengers about how this film needed to do 400 in the US just to break even after accounting for international figures. The film did 620 but most other such films in Hollywood don’t gross like this. If this is the case in Hollywood what do you think is going on in Bollywood?! First off all these numbers that are thrown around aren’t verified or verifiable. secondly when you have totals thrown out it’s hard for people to understand how the ‘food chain’ works at each one of its nodes. So yes if Sohail Khan makes a table profit of however many crores he has to pay back some of his distributors who either lost money or didn’t make much unless he never wants a film financed again! Salman is pretty good at this sort of thing anyway. But when he does this he’s also cutting into his profit margin or whatever his table profit was. Most big films with big stars aren’t really all that profitable. Unless they do surprisingly good business or they’re made at a relatively low cost. Usually the money is made on smaller or medium-scaled productions that surprise in a big way. With the big ones all you get is some kind of ‘plus’ deal. That’s why everyone’s going crazy for these initials. They assure some sort of safety assuming the film doesn’t tank after this but the idea that most of these films are blockbusters or whatever is fiction of the poorest kind. But industries sustain things this way for years. Also a lot of directors are weeded out at different points. one doesn’t often notice this. The smart ones like Rohit Shetty never get into expensive productions. And the ones that do are out of a job even with decent returns sometimes if a certain profitability margin isn’t met. As for why things aren’t different structural problems years or decades in the making aren’t undone all of a sudden. As for Shahid Kapoor or whoever you can’t just make films with the top 3-5 stars! What industry works like this? But Bollywood has gone smaller in some ways. The masala remakes are usually not very expensive. Many major stars also do smaller films. The Ra One or K3 kind of super-production is relatively rare. the HNY kind of film is the much more quintessential deal where you get a circus going, maybe you spend a lot of money on one or two videos, the rest is all about marketing. in Hollywood too the latter costs are huge, sometimes the major part but there is still enough money spent on the ‘art’ or the SFX or what have you. In Bombay a lot of money is spent but one isn’t sure what they actually do with it! And again these numbers are just thrown around without any sense of how a film industry economy works. Ultimately the movie business always has a certain built-in irrationality to it. A lot of the pain is often deferred. There are major stars who underperform in one film and are then paying back with their next two! It’s very complicated in official and unofficial ways but the point is that few films that are called hits in the media are so in any reasonable sense of the term. 99% of what one gets from the media or the trade in this sense is pure fiction. They’ve become simply an advertising arm of the industry.
A note on HNY- the budget will probably be around 100 crores. I don’t understand how CE could cost 70 crores to make when the entire thing was made in south India, didn’t have vfx or a Malang type song and SRK didn’t take his salary. If CE is 70 crores then HNY has to be about 100 imo. Actually all of SRK movies are high budget movies, and especially his last 4-5. Comparatively, besides D3 for Aamir and ETT for Salman, all their other movies have medium budgets.
honestly i dont buy these theories of budget being 100 cr and all that – it is all PR hype. Except for cases like D3 – the budget generally are around 20-30 cr and SRK’s fees might be another 20-30 – plus mktg 10-15 –
Jai Ho Drops Further On Wednesday
Thursday 30 January 2014 15.00 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
Jai Ho dropped further on Wednesday with collections around 5.25-5.50 crore nett. The collections on Monday were decent but it has seen rapid falls over the next two days and is now sure to collect less than 85 crore nett in its first week.
Its not a good sign for the second week as with these falls on Tuesday and Wednesday, a second week total of 30 crore nett or near that looks impossible. A 30 crore nett second week would have given the film a good final total.
The only plus for the film is lack of competition this week but even that can only help so much with collections dropping at this rate. The collections at single screens are also not holding up that well.
They are dropping by 2crore per day, a really bad sign. First week being 83-87 crore depending on source, is a sign now that the film is stubbling to 100 crore rather than cantering past it. The second week now will struggle to go past 20 crore.
Q. Is Aamir Khan the real superstar now as he is the only one to take a big opening without backing of a holiday with Dhoom 3?
Ans. Dhoom 3 may not have a had a holiday but the film had around 125 crore spend on the just the production side of the film as compared to the 45 crore production spend on Jai Ho. When ticket rates are so high the audience will only come in numbers if they feel they are getting their tickets worth. Salman Khan is still the biggest star but his films have to be grander like Ek Tha Tiger rather than Jai Ho types if the record numbers are to come in.
Can anyone explain what kind of ridiculous logic is this ? Aamir did with Dhoom 3 so he doesnt get any credit so wait for salman to do it in a more grand looking film ? so now production values and cost of the film will decide who is the biggest star Seriously ?
I have no doubt that if someone says that the cost/production/marketing DOES impact a film. I have no doubts.
I do however have doubts when BOI write it up. It is disingenuous the way they put it.
Fact. D3 did open biggest on non-holiday or holiday. The opening has put laid to rest the notion that holiday is be all and end all of film business. D3 opened on a record without a holiday – if anyone can name the last film to do this and when it will be interesting to know!
I would be much more inclined to find genuine thoughts from BOI if they simply said that Jai Ho has not accumulated the same level of interest as ETT did or Bodyguard. The audience does not have an equal level of interest in each Salman movie or Aamir movie. Interest levels differ based on that star in questions current stature, the film arriving in question, the buzz surrounding the film and many other things namely the recent track record of the star – not to mention music, co-stars, subject. The problem is BOI has never peddled this type of thought. It is used here as an afterthought. In fact most of their answers “content” – there standard response is if the content is good the film will work…which is fine. But they don’t mention content for Jai Ho. They mention production and cost as a scapegoat.
There are many examples of low cost films that do splendid business.
Also when MP, RDB, Fanaa, Ghajini, 3 Idiots broke records they WERE NOT the costliest or best produced films!
The whole statement has so many contradictions.
Basically Jai Ho (without seeing it) is a film that is not connecting well with its target audience. Call a spade a spade. Meanwhile the producers pocket a massive profit. Maybe if they sold it at a reasonable price and marketed at the level the budget warranted, it would be deemed a fair success!
The whole model of selling to distributors is flawed.
There should be a genuine attempt to fix a ratio between cost/marketing of a film and the maximum price a distributor should pay. They can judge whether the film in question deserves the maximum or they want to go lower. The “sellers” here cannot be proud of themselves. They don’t need to make “this” level of profits. They’ll never be trusted, all credibility is lost.
It should be a chain where everyone has a reasonable chance of making money. The vast majority of films should make some level of profit with some making more than expected. In the current model though it seems distributors make loads on a few films and lose a fair bit on many. It’s like a betting shop. But it comes back to the number of genuine hit films the industry produces. I’d wager that % is not more than 10% for the last 20 years. 90% of films are genuine flops for distributors I’d bet. And I’d bet most of them would not have been if they paid a much more reasonable price.
To be fair though, if your dumb enough to pay it, you deserve it!
One of the overlooked things which probably is not significant, is some neutral fans turning against Salman for biased hosting during Bigg Boss 7. There were multiple facebook pages and tweets with #unfairSalman hashtag. On the show he came out as arrogant and doesn’t care if you don’t agree with him. Salman fans are of course going to love him irrespective of what he does.
“A movie is made hit by fence sitters. Fans (to support) and enemy fans (to find loopholes or tell the climax) always go and watch movie.”
ps – Rocky will kill me but for most part I don’t care about current Hindi movies. I think most of them are junk. I watch them because of cultural affinity. If the same movie is made in other language, I wouldn’t think about watching (This argument should go in Rangan’s crossroad thread). So in last year, I liked Madras Café and Shahid and to some degree Ranjhanna, Fukrey, Ghanchakkar.
Production values are just a part of the equation. And even then, how long can good prod values sustain a film? D3 was hardly universally accepted, yet went strong for 2 full weeks. It just couldn’t be on the strength of prod values. Starpower also counts.
YRF’s experiment with the 3Khans (+Katrina) reveals the extent of this starpower threadbare:
ETT: 185cr
JTHJ: 135cr
D3: 280cr
Also, note, without any holiday, D3 had the least favorable opening 3days, yet had the strongest opening of all 3 movies.
JTHJ was a horrible over long lover story movie going up against masalaa trend of SOS.
CE did about 50 crore less than D3 despite if being much smaller budget movie than D3, despite facing competition from big to semi big film week after week…
P.K Talli – this fact came straight even from the horse’s mouth. Please revisit Salman section on KWK with Aamir. Definitely n yrf merging/ tie up with a big star cast attract more eye balls in anticipation of grandeur. This was witnessed lately when all 3 Khans hooked for a project each with them. It was unfortunate yrf had a date clash with SOS and JTHJ could not reach realize its blockbuster opening potential.
It’s a lot of ingredients put together but most important these days is the release timing. Some times anticipation of a better moving coming shortly too holds the audience from going to theatre.
Jai ho is not a grand looking film yet it was sold for grand prices why ? unforunately distributors too didnt realize that and now they are the ones who r going to make losses while salman and sohail made record breaking profits as reported by BOI . i guess thats the only reason sohail wanted to direct this .
RA1 – srk outdid himself with tasteless jokes and vulgarity. I mean he went to the extent of holding kareena’s boobs for no rhyme or reason…..wth was he thinking. The movie became a joke due to all this and poor south Indian jokes and backlash was evident instantly.
Now this could have been prevented by a strong director but Anubhav Sinha had no credentials to reign in srk there and he went berserk hamming.
That is why CDI remains his last best performance and reason was simply Shimit’s no nonsense attitude and sticking to script.
we really dont have to talk about what Aamir says about Salman but if u must then i suggest u should also check what salman had said about Aamir but i really dont care what both of them say about each other so lets not get into this i was talking the lame excuses BOI that they are coming up with in defense of Salman and jai ho
In a nutshell srk stardom in 90s was completely driven by these big production houses and attachment to big names. He fell off the charts in recent times due to his stupidities and recklessness. How can you refuse a Robot and 3 Idiots and do Ra1 and Rab ne. On second thoughts , may be he is too much of a businessman to be an actor now.
Aamir was and still does bank on sheer exclusivity and being smart in not crossing his limits with the projects he does. He would simply fail if went along the routine path and thankfully his early flops made him wiser. This hatke is his usp and what made him.
I am not saying Salman is more talented, but he has been real superstar and has done projects left, right and centre and with one and all and with all sorts of cast and mind you with no insecurities whatsoever. He was easily able to maintain his standing in top 3 all the time for last 25 years and with bigger names attached, he gave effortless blockbusters.
Even with Jai Ho, when the end credits started to roll and he came on with his Jai Ho title track in rock star mode all was forgiven… at least from my side. There was freshness there unlike the third class show of bhaigiri throughout the movie. Hope he recovers with Kick which is an Eid release and there will be a section of crowd loaded with money.
No offensive comments please and I am in no mood to rebuttal and simply putting my pov…
Some excellent points all around.
To answer MSD, yes- Salman has raw star wattage and that has carried him through uneven filmography.
Aamir per se does not have the same crazy following but he has created a broad appeal by being smart and doing the right kind of films. SRK has a following which is loyal but is dwindling.
SRK’s success has largely been based on serial movies as a lot of his movies were like a serial to the previous one. CDI showed that there ARE more possibilities for him but he lacks both conviction and credibility when it comes to hatke films.
Aamir has been the smartest while deciding which direction his career would move in. SRK has always considered himself to be the king & i guess that was the reason for his downfall. Having said that he still in my opinion is the only actor who has the widest acceptance across the globe. Give a movie with a good script that suits him & is universal , he can still get a huge initial.
Salman has been a entirely unique case, he has given hits without really thinking about it. But i still feel that of the three Salman is the least gifted actor. But without doubt he has the highest fan following.
I agree somewhat with MSD…that Salman has done weird low grade production crew films and still managed to come out …something like Bandhan…or Tere Naam or stuff..so the movies have either recovered, semi hit to even hit. Now what he did was align himself with likes of YRF and his own brothers and the masala bandwagon..that got him going big time. Effortlessness of success is surely with him.
For SRK, he was great in aligning himself with cream like YR and KJo and catering to Urban and Overseas audiences strengthening the market for himself. There was a the time 5-6 years back he was the number one overseas star. But lot has changed..the cream like YR and Kjo have themselves branched out into the multiple productions and they have to compete with likes of UTV, Viacom etc and the multiplex boom..what has happened is more and more content needs to be generated and the dependency has a select few superstars have gone down and hence you saw Hrithik, Ranbir, Akshay all showing some footing.
Aamir has strategically placed himself to be a brand that people like and await. He doesn’t have that Salman superstar aura or SRK’s charm for romance to be a conventional hero. But imagine despite being short, weird ears..he has lead himself to records and landmark films in all genres.
Overall, the fact remains that today only a packaged deal will work..a b grade production will be TOLERATED by the fan of the superstar but won’t go beyond a semi hit or recovery movie. The Star plus production values but support cast and execution…and its relative percentage makes a movie a blockbuster.
Aamir is not god to predict that his planned movies will be blockbusters or superhits. He just wanted them to do well and make some profit for all. He is always insecure before the release of a movie because he works hard, very hard and coordinates. Salman had a string of flops too and nobody wants to talk about it. He is now in a phase where his films are performing well and Salman shrewdly has started to give the type of movies his fans love. Only in Jai Ho he slipped a bit but his fans did not let him down. Aamir has very few fans that too nitpicking ones, but his films are rare and always gives something different and fresh. Even in Dhoom 3, the film lost its essence just to accommodate Aamir and the only thing that reminded of Dhoom franchise was Abhishek and Uday along with chases. Inspite of not having sufficient fans, how aamir’s films work like magic most of the time? Some quality plus entertainment.is assured.
Having said this, I prefer a Talaash more than a Dhoom 3, a flawed Fanaa more than ghajini, RDB over 3 Idiots.
M S Dhoni thinks that aamir plans in such a way that his films become superhits or hits. A film’s performance is most unpredictable and aamir can plan a good film but he cannot make that film perform. It is the audience who has the power to make or break a film. As Lord Krishna says in Geeta to do one’s duty sincerely without expecting results. Blockbusters, I mean, in this context.
@Sanjana thats right. But one has to admit that Aamir has increased his fan following immensely since 2000s. He might be behind in sheer numbers but he does have a good hold now on an universal basis.
Agreed that his fan base has increased a ton since 2000 but somehow I still get a feelin that his fan base isn’t as dedicated and hard core as SRK or Salman. Which is why even during SRK’s “dull phase” he still delivered 3 100 crore movies and 200 crore worldwide grossers and Jai Ho will still make around 120. It’s almost as if SRK and Salman fans go to see their stars movie mostly to see their favorite actor while Aamir’s fans go to see his movie expecting to see a good movie. If Aamir delivered 3-4 crap movies in a row like SRK (Ra.1, Don 2, Jthj, CE), his fan base would diminish singnificantly
Forget films, not getting a chance to check out scenes or songs
B4 I lose myself totally to the hectic activity—
The strains of this fell on my ears today (unknowingly)
And forced me to pause …
Time stands still while i pause
And admire rahmans mastery over music
The way he negotiates some of the high notes as a singer and composer here is a delight to hear…
Dhoop paani pe baras jaaye..
Yeh.. saaye banaaye, mitaaye
Main kahoon, aur tu aa jaaye, behlaaye
Har doori sharmaaye
Tu saath hai, ho din raat hai
Parchhaaiyan batlaaye
Mahi ve …
Salman fans in plexes have certainly not showed up for jai ho and this isnt the first time it has happened during wanted it was pretty much a similar story the difference being Wanted did very well in single screens while jai ho is not holding up all that well even there u should also check the failures salman had before wanted when he was even struggling to get a decent initial some of his films were wash outs i dont remember this happening with Aamir in atleast last 10-12 years yes some of his films started slow like TZP but that had more to do with the kind of film it was than anything else otherwise it did very well in the long run heck Aamir fans have even showed up for his productions . ETT was the only time Salman got an extraordinary opening all across the board yes i know dabangg , ready and bodyguard all did very well but ETT surprised one and all with the kind of initial it got but even with all the grand look that BOI is talking about today it still couldnt go past 3 idiots that too after 3 years . All this is not to put down salman have no intention to do so as i believe salman is a big star just dont agree with the some of the things u said . One last thing this is salman’s best phase and if u think jai ho getting to 120 cr is some sort of achievement then there is nothing left to say wouldnt bring Dhoom 3 into this as that would be more embrassing .
If one reads his tweets, one understands his bias. When did he become defence lawyer of Salman Khan? And who asked him to become one? Even Salman himself is not saying anything.
With that mindset, how can he give credit to aamir khan? He has to find some lame, stupid argument like costs to discredit aamir’s success in terms of boxoffice. Dhoom franchise is a dumb franchise like Race franchise and giving the franchise more credit is ridiculous. Even a Rohit Shetty’s franchise is much better in terms of fun elelment.
And why Hrithik does not find a place here? Inspite of a kiddish movie like Kkrish 3, Hrithik’s presence made it into a blockbuster.
Raj5: “If Aamir delivered 3-4 crap movies in a row like SRK (Ra.1, Don 2, Jthj, CE), his fan base would diminish singnificantly.” Yes. But aamir wont deliver 3-4 crap movies. That is his star appeal. Aaamir’s star appeal is based on the fact that he gives good movies. That does not mean that it is not star appeal, In fact by all verfiable criteria , his star appeal in the last and this decade is stronger than SRK or Salman.
True but his star appeal is not greater than SRK’s and definitely not greater than Salman. The craze for Aamir Khan is not the same as the craze for SRK/Salman.
This is the contradiction. AK’s star appeal is not as great but his films create a craze. Certain things cant be explained. Maybe fence sitters decide things. Reviewers are rather harsh on his films while Salman’s films are treated less judgmentally. Even for Dhoom 3, the reviews were almost negative and WOM was also quite negative. Inspite of that, the film did pretty well.
Sanjana; “WOM was also quite negative.” I can assure you that was not the case at all. People ;loved it. many saw it twice. Otherwise it can not do 280 crores and 25 million USD. And Aamir has a solid fan base. In fact there are many who don’t see mainstream Hindi films, except when it ids an Aamir film. That explains the extra numbers you get for films like 3I or D3. Of course Aamir fans are not like Salman or SRK fans who make so much noise on the Net. They keep quite and turn up when there is an Aamir film.
SATYAMSHOT
January 23, 2014 at 6:17 AM
Jai Ho Advance: Single Screens Phenomenal Overall Good
Thursday 23 January 2014 09.00 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
Jai Ho has had a good advance with single screens phenomenal. There are some single single theatres in places like Jodhpur, Lucknow, Indore etc which have a 25-30% better advance than Dhoom 3 or Chennai Express. The Salman factor together with action has been working like magic at single screens since Wanted in 2009 and its no different with Jai Ho.
In the UP, Rajasthan and CI belts, single screens have probably seen the best advance ever but there is a lag at multiplexes in places like Delhi, Punjab, Bangalore and Kolkata compared to the advance of other recent big openers.
Still the advance overall is good but less than Salman Khan’s Ek Tha Tiger and at multiplexes it is less than Bodyguard also. The film has a near perfect release with most multiplexes outside South allotting most of their screens to the film as the holdovers have either run out of steam or were not doing well anyway.
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January 23, 2014 at 6:18 AM
taran adarsh @taran_adarsh 2h
#JaiHo screen count *Worldwide* is a phenomenal 5000+ screens, Sunil Lulla of Eros confirms.
taran adarsh @taran_adarsh 1h
With such a massive screen count of #JaiHo [5000+ screens Worldwide], one should expect a record-breaking Day 1, opng wknd and Week 1.
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January 23, 2014 at 7:12 AM
Be ready to be shocked, Jai Ho will open average/below average in Multiplexes. Dont know how BOI talking about is talking about single screens. I cant track them.
But, BMS clearly indicates shocker , i think with Jai Ho Sallu is back to Wanted and pre wanted phase.
If multiplexes dont pick up after average opening, below 20 cr first day will shock the industry.
All in all, Salman movie has never seen such low response in multiplex since wanted. I think only ‘Ready’ was other sallu star which was little slow in morning but picked up quickly to trend very well. But Jai ho is much below Ready, can this pick up like ready to trend excellent? Now, all depends on reviews and wom.
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January 23, 2014 at 8:57 AM
One should not expect those records. Poor Jai Ho and Salman! Such tall expectations.
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January 23, 2014 at 2:58 PM
I think this will open well in SS and below par in multiplexes. Anything above 70 crores for 3 days will shock me.
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January 24, 2014 at 8:16 AM
And here it shocks…
Jai Ho Below Expectations At Multiplexes
Friday 24 January 2014 15.30 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
Jai Ha is remaining below expectations at multiplexes practically all over the country. The opening was not that strong at multiplexes in the morning and in the afternoon the film has seen collections at a similar level and even less at places.
The single screens are doing well but the sort of numbers expected from Jai Ho can’t come from just single screen doing good business, the multiplexes must do well as well.
The collections in Delhi city and East Punjab are pretty shocking considering the numbers the last few Salman Khan starrer’s have put up in these areas. Ek Tha Tiger saw record business while Dabangg was much closer to 3 Idiots in these areas than Mumbai. At the moment a 20 crore nett total is looking a tough ask for Jai Ho. It is almost certain to have lower first day figures than Bodyguard and Dabangg 2.
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January 24, 2014 at 8:18 AM
But good thing is it just picked up well in multiplexes in late eve shows but still nothing like previous sallu movies.
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January 23, 2014 at 6:19 AM
Ranbir doing a cameo in Bhootnath:
http://twitpic.com/dt38vl
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January 24, 2014 at 3:45 AM
Can he save Bhootnanth 2?
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January 23, 2014 at 7:23 AM
@Satyam
Why my comments dont show in Filibuster thread?
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January 23, 2014 at 8:32 AM
which ones are you referring to? I don’t see anything even in spam. Your comments are showing up here so don’t know what’s up.
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January 23, 2014 at 8:59 AM
I posted 3 comments in ‘Filibuster’ threas.
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January 23, 2014 at 9:02 AM
Unfortunately I don’t see anything. Sometimes they go to spam but there isn’t anything there either.
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January 23, 2014 at 9:11 AM
Try to repost them with some small change in the first sentence.
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January 23, 2014 at 9:27 AM
the problem is nothing went into moderation or spam. Not sure what happened with those comments.
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January 23, 2014 at 9:26 AM
some more editing cool
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January 23, 2014 at 11:41 AM
https://twitter.com/aamir_khan/status/426282079832129536
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January 23, 2014 at 11:55 AM
Another example of Aamir’s pseudo intellectualism.
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January 23, 2014 at 1:35 PM
Horrible for the plants. This is a bad bad habit among Indian men, making Delhi stink like a urinal whether it is the station area, or busy bazaars. poooh!!
I was hoping he’s bring this up in the next ‘halo building’ season of Satyamevj ayte but now I can forget about it.
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January 23, 2014 at 6:52 PM
Too bad SRK needs to sit down to pee!
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January 24, 2014 at 6:05 AM
Yes.
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January 24, 2014 at 2:22 PM
my thought process was COMPLETELY off…instead of the trees, I was wondering, what if….arrrr…they check each other out…and start to “compete”….kaun bada.
lolz
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January 24, 2014 at 2:33 PM
Di..guess then they will resort to ‘same pinch’!!!
Aap bhi naa, hamare jaise sharief bacchon/mardon se kaisi kaisi bacchalan baatein karvati hain..
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January 23, 2014 at 3:36 PM
They are clearly posing. But this is enough for all their mad fans to treat public spaces like urinals. Very bad role models here. Send this pic to Kejri, he will do on the spot Dharna to protest.
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January 23, 2014 at 4:19 PM
Question – Is it their fault that we consider them as our role models without knowing them personally?
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January 23, 2014 at 11:25 PM
no movie star…sports star should be a ‘role model’. charles barkley said it best: “I’m not a role model… Just because I dunk a basketball doesn’t mean I should raise your kids.”
I draw inspiration from some famous people but my role models are people that i only know personally.
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January 23, 2014 at 4:44 PM
Arghh that pic of aamir is in and taste and a bad example to the naive fans–imagine what would the aamir fans like Satyam will be upto now (I’m not talking about Salman since this isn’t new)
Anyhow—
I need to set my mood right after that crass pic!!
The ONLY reason I checked the few seconds of this promo were the two ladies
Nargis & Ileana order me to “get screwed in love”!!
Ok girls …I can’t say no…
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January 24, 2014 at 1:05 AM
It has the three sexiest ladies in B’wood today: Nargis, Ileana and Evelyn. Varun is quite the lucky guy and I am not going to miss the movie for anything in the world.
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January 24, 2014 at 1:43 AM
Jai Ho Has Good Opening But Not Bumper
Friday 24 January 2014 11.30 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
Jai Ha had a good opening with single screensdoing very well ranging from 80-100% while multiplexes opened in the 50% range but while the opening is good the expectations were of a much better opening. The business at multiplexes across North India was disappointing as some were even less than 50%.
Mumbai circuit has opened better than North India with Ahmedabad recording 90% collections and Pune also around 80-90% but North looks set to be below expectations as Delhi NCR and East Punjab had average start.
Overall the opening is good but not huge. The first day number should be good but probably not what a Salman Khan starrer should be doing today. It has no chance of reaching Ek Tha Tiger levels and the question is can it go over 20 crore nett or not. A lot depends how multiplexes fare through the day as business in single screens in most parts is very good.
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January 24, 2014 at 1:44 AM
and for a somewhat different perspective:
taran adarsh @taran_adarsh 27m
#JaiHo morning shows open to packed houses.
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January 24, 2014 at 3:04 AM
Just as i said yesterday, it is struggling for 20 cr first day. But, what is taran smoking? Instead of being shocked he calls it packed house opening.
Wasnt he expecting it will chase all records?
@taranadarsh
With such a massive screen count of #JaiHo [5000+ screens Worldwide], one should expect a record-breaking Day 1, opng wknd and Week 1.
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January 24, 2014 at 1:46 AM
Shah Rukh’s injury not ‘OK’, shooting cancelled on FridayBy Subhash K. Jha, Jan 24, 2014 – 10:45 hrs IST
Shah Rukh Khan’s injury which his…ahem…colleague Salman Khan has described as “ok” is not so okay. According to an eyewitness Shah Rukh was not just injured but also badly shaken by the accident.
Says the eyewitness, “Shah Rukh was shooting with Abhishek Bachchan, Sonu Sood and Deepika Padukone for Farah Khan’s Happy New Year when a heavy 10×5 door came crashing down straight towards Shah Rukh. He ducked. But couldn’t escape entirely though. He had bleeding gash on the right side of his forehead. His knee was also injured.”
Worst of all, Shah Rukh’s shoulder which has undergone several surgeries took the weight of the falling door.
Says the eyewitness, “Shah Rukh was in a lot of pain. He is also become frail because of the repeated injuries and surgeries. The entire team went to the hospital with him. They were there for more than 4 hours. Thorough tests including CT scan and an MRI scan were done.”
The test reports are awaited.
In the meanwhile Shah Rukh insisted on returning to shoot after the hospitalization.
Says the eyewitness, “Shah Rukh and the entire team went back to shoot at the Marriott. Shah Rukh had his hand in a sling. He took of his sling and did his shots. But he was quite shaken. The shooting has been cancelled on Friday to allow Shah Rukh to rest.”
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January 24, 2014 at 2:24 AM
was shirish kunder anywhere near this door??? 😛
glad SRK will be OK!
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January 24, 2014 at 8:44 AM
Jai Ho is also going Krrish3 way .
Low start and poor WOM.
I hope Salman and Jai Ho team do not manipulate by reporting Gross figures as Net like Roshans.
Roshans failed sportsmanship test , let’s hope Salman passes it.
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January 24, 2014 at 9:37 AM
Jai Ho Below Expectations At Multiplexes
Friday 24 January 2014 15.30 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
Jai Ha is remaining below expectations at multiplexes practically all over the country. The opening was not that strong at multiplexes in the morning and in the afternoon the film has seen collections at a similar level and even less at places.
The single screens are doing well but the sort of numbers expected from Jai Ho can’t come from just single screen doing good business, the multiplexes must do well as well.
The collections in Delhi city and East Punjab are pretty shocking considering the numbers the last few Salman Khan starrer’s have put up in these areas. Ek Tha Tiger saw record business while Dabangg was much closer to 3 Idiots in these areas than Mumbai. At the moment a 20 crore nett total is looking a tough ask for Jai Ho. It is almost certain to have lower first day figures than Bodyguard and Dabangg 2.http://www.boxofficeindia.com/Details/art_detail/jaihobelowexpectationsatmultiplexes#.UuJ5UNK6Yb0
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January 24, 2014 at 10:29 AM
Though this will pick up over the weekend with wom better than the rest, it seems a clear case of over exposure on tv and news and then partial over confidence on salman part with assembling all the left over cast and general bhaigiri in filmaking and then not having an a-grade heroine. Salman may be ruling the roost but it’s the package deal which seems to be working these days.
The storyline may be good to decent but the promos except the posters always looked dated and recycled garbage like dabangg2 .
This also was a summer movie and salman should have waited for april/may dates. Though I am not a die hard aamir fan you need to adopt his saam, daam, dand, bhed philosophy at times.
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January 24, 2014 at 10:59 AM
taran adarsh @taran_adarsh 7h
#Dhoom3 language-wise breakup: Hindi ₹ 271.48 cr. Tamil & Telugu ₹ 12.79 cr. Grand total: ₹ 284.27 cr nett. India biz only.
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January 24, 2014 at 11:00 AM
LOL at the grand old man of public reviews – picture mein chumma chaati nahin hain..
Do you get free tea in the multiplexes in India for these public reviews??
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January 24, 2014 at 11:21 AM
LOL, hilarious. this guy is there in most of the videos! Has a nice gig going!
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January 24, 2014 at 1:38 PM
@Satyam
Why my comment is under moderation. If i typed c… c… toh under moderaion, aur ank jo ne type kiya toh all fine. I someone abused me continuously other day all good.
On another thread, my 3 comments just never showed up. Actually, i tried posting one word that also didnt show up. This is the limit.
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January 24, 2014 at 1:46 PM
Relax, all your comments are showing up. Anytime you put 2 or more links it automatically goes into moderation. I just released it. About yesterday’s comments I already told you I don’t know what happened there. Because they weren’t in moderation or spam.
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January 24, 2014 at 1:52 PM
I tell you what happened in that thread, i am blocked from that thread. Even a simple word Hi doesnt get posted there.
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January 24, 2014 at 1:59 PM
The filibuster thread was closed last night because it had too many comments. I’ve opened up a new political thread. I think maybe the political threads aren’t a good idea. People start getting paranoid!
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January 24, 2014 at 2:04 PM
I never made any such comment that i was banned there. If it was for someone, it should have been highlighted but i was never told.
May be your moderator is biased.
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January 24, 2014 at 2:08 PM
I think you have a problem following me. If you were banned you wouldn’t be here making any kind of comment. There’s no way to ban people selectively from certain threads. That thread was shut down (and I said that I would several hrs before doing so) because it had 400 or more comments and when you have that many things slow down (the thread takes a while to load). This has been done with other threads in the past too (trailer ones and so on). So no one can add comments to that thread. Which is I opened up a new one. All the ‘political’ action has been moved here and people have responded accordingly.
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January 24, 2014 at 2:09 PM
I don’t think there is anything like banning from thread.
There is only one moderator Satyam but sometimes I do chime in.
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January 24, 2014 at 1:35 PM
Chumma chaati yahan hain….
Dharmendra-Jethmalani kiss photo goes viral on social networking sites
Veteran Bollywood star Dharmendra has been trending on Twitter close on the heels of other stars such as Nirupa Roy, Danny Denzongpa and Alok Nath.
The only difference here is that it’s not jokes that are doing the rounds, instead it’s a photograph of the veteran actor caught in a liplock with none other than the famous politician and lawyer Ram Jethmalani.
The photograph was reportedly taken at Jethmalani’s birthday celebrations.
And as expected, the twitterati have their own take on the photograph.
Read more at: http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/dharmendra-kisses-jethmalani-picture-video-goes-viral/1/339431.html
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January 24, 2014 at 12:49 PM
Not sure if this can be a reason, but the recent controversary about performing in safai ( yadav bastion ) seems to be having an impct here.
Salman has made a big mistake here & by following that up by giving very reckless interviews ( barkha atc ). He seems to have done a lot of damage ( at least in the short run ) to his image.
Jai ho in my opinion will not show much uptick from here on.
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January 24, 2014 at 1:21 PM
Jai Ho 70% more than Yaariyan in Kanpur on Friday.
Girish Johar @girishjohar 8m
KANPUR (JAI HO) Friday Multiplexes-602727 Single Screen-419588.50 TOTAL-1022315.50 1day Total-1022315.50
Girish Johar @girishjohar Jan 10
KANPUR (YARIYAAN) Friday Multiplexes-475986 Single Screen-106682 TOTAL-582668 1day Total-582668
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January 24, 2014 at 1:22 PM
If that is the trend all over, Jai Ho first day 11.5 cr. But, it is much wider release, i think it will be 15-17 cr range.
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January 24, 2014 at 1:25 PM
More Apt comparison due to similar screen size is Dhoom3.
Jai Ho is 110% less than D3 in Kanpur on Friday. With similar trend all over, it should be 15-16 cr first day.
Girish Johar @girishjohar Dec 20
KANPUR (DHOOM 3) Friday Multiplexes-1422849 Single Screen-723194 TOTAL-2146043
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January 24, 2014 at 1:27 PM
Correction – D3 was 100% more of Jai ho, Jai ho is 55% less than D3.
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January 24, 2014 at 1:30 PM
Varanasi First day is half of D3 Friday. Going by trend suggested by Varanasi and Kanpur. First day is just 15-16 cr. May be couple of more of less but 20 is out of reach for sure.
Girish Johar @girishjohar 5m
Varanasi #JaiHo FRIDAY MPX 615183 SS 183205 TOTAL 798388
Girish Johar @girishjohar Dec 20
FRIDAY Varanasi #Dhoom3 MPX 1343634 S S 246404 TOTAL1590038
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January 24, 2014 at 1:49 PM
Jai Ho Finds It Tough On Day One
Friday 24 January 2014 22.00 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
Jai Ha has found it tough at the box office on day one. The multiplexes did not start that strongly and could not pick up while single screens started very well but at places there were cracks in the matinee and evening shows. It is cold in the North but still it should have collected much more.
It was pretty clear in the afternoon that 20 crore nett was a huge task and as the day comes to an end the collections for the film will be around the 15 crore nett range.
The film has suffered in the multiplexes with the lowest collections of a Salman Khan starrer since Wanted in 2009. The all India collections of films like Dabangg (2010) and Ready (2011) may remain lower when the final all India total of Jai Ho comes in but at multiplexes they recorded better collections. The film has been sold for huge prices in circuits where it has been sold and figures coming in from these circuits be it Rajasthan, West Bengal or CP Berar are not proportionate to the prices that distributors have paid.
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January 24, 2014 at 1:49 PM
not sure what these guys were smoking earlier when they were doing the D3 comparisons!
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January 24, 2014 at 1:52 PM
LOL!
Komal Nahta @KomalNahta 7h
For all those asking, Salman and Sohail have made Rs. 100 crore profit in JAI HO. So relax!
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January 24, 2014 at 1:52 PM
Komal Nahta @KomalNahta 6h
Shocking! Salman Khan’s JAI HO doesn’t take a flying start in multiplexes. Opening in single-screen cinemas lovely but not in multiplexes.
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January 24, 2014 at 1:56 PM
The multiplexes once again prove that anything that looks half-serious becomes problematic for them. As long as Salman was doing the masala-comedy routine he was fine. Even with ETT this was a rather multiplex-friendly deal. Yashraj, Katrina etc. The moment you try to go more hardcore the results are clear. I don’t really buy the fact that this film didn’t look great and so on. As opposed to what? BG, ready?!
Once again people should have reason to appreciate Aamir’s feat in Ghajini. No other serious masala film (or serious drama) has done anything even remotely close to this film’s business in terms of opening and final gross.
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January 24, 2014 at 2:17 PM
I think this is also a case of masala fatigue. It was visible even during Dabang 2 and all subsequent masala movies like Boss etc..There is only so much of the same anyone can take. I am not too surprised the movie didnt start well, it also looked stale if you compare it with other biggies. The songs were bad, the heroine looked like some Junior casting couch actress and it had that 80’s look and feel..
I am not too disappointed, I will never be, specially if a movie of Salman or Akshay doesnt do well. What is sad is atleast this salman movie content wise was better than his recent outings but still it has flopped. With Kick on the anvil I expect another big dud. His real biggie would be the Barjatya one. On Akshay he has Thupakki coming so even with my obvious hatred for this south kind masala movies, I will be happy if that one does well as that is a genuinely good movie.
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January 24, 2014 at 1:57 PM
Second day bookings are not no different either. Also, single screen always fall on Saturday. Expect similar or lower number on sat unless multiplex improve significantly.
This is nothing but exhaustion of Massy movies. BOSS, Besharam, R…rajkumar also not great…Jai ho confirms it.
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January 24, 2014 at 2:06 PM
Besharam isn’t masala by any stretch. And you can’t compare Shahid with Salman in his current phase though R..rajkumar remained stable at the lower end. Didn’t do too badly. It just lacked an initial. Again Akshay is more or less a spent force at this point. Not likely to get big openings on anything. The best he can do on a good day is get a 120 crore or so final result. Masala-comedy is the key, something I’ve been saying for very long. Rohit Shetty profits from this every time. Hard to believe there’s any exhaustion here. Of course anytime you have too many similar films the novelty runs out and you get a number of failures too. But Salman is big enough at the moment for the genre not to be a crippling factor for him. But even with him this trajectory couldn’t have lasted forever. The lack of relative quality eventually starts showing. And even now most of his releases (barring the Barjatya project) seem to be utterly indifferent ones simply playing the same note again and again. Think it will be hard for him to get those stratospheric numbers in the absence of a proper project. Maybe with Kick because this is a remake. I haven’t seen the original but maybe this gets it done. The Stalin remake was always dicey.
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January 24, 2014 at 2:08 PM
This is not just end of road for Mass masala cinema. It indicates clear flop for salman. BOI says 15 cr first day at best, sat will be lower as SS was the best thing about it. 50 cr weekend at best and 80-90 cr total the way underperforming movies trend these days, which makes it clean flop.
Last year, dabangg2 didnt trend very well, it was not well accepted no where close to first Dabangg.
And probably that was end of road for masala movies.
Looks like Only one of Srk or salman can do well at a time. Though, aamir maintains exclusivity with one film in 2 year.
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January 24, 2014 at 2:10 PM
yes this looks to be Salman’s first serious underperformer since Dabanng. Some other films fizzled out fast (ETT is the classic example here) but they at least started very big and got to a minimal gross because of it. If the weekend remains along these lines for the film it will struggle to reach 100.
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January 24, 2014 at 2:41 PM
15 crores is an unbelievably low number, as far as I remember Ram-Leela made more than that on its first day. I’m actually having a hard time believing 15 crores from 4500 screens, its embarrassing. I think Taran Adarsh and co will have it at 20 crore 1st day.
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January 24, 2014 at 3:58 PM
lo plateform bana nahin aur srk fans already celebrating downfall of sallu,are bhaya pehla din hai so do not get excited…jai ho
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January 24, 2014 at 4:06 PM
Salman Khan’s ‘Jai Ho’ gets off to a great start
Early reports suggest that ‘Jai Ho’ has got an 80 to 100 per cent opening in certain sectors. The single screens opened to a better response than most plexes.
http://indianexpress.com/article/entertainment/bollywood/salman-khans-jai-ho-gets-off-to-a-great-start/
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January 24, 2014 at 4:47 PM
Yes i was expecting at least 20 crores minimum and possibly up to 25crores…this could be a really big disaster. A total less than 50crores for weekend and its going to fold pretty quickly.
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January 24, 2014 at 4:51 PM
Nothing surprising here….i was telling it for last couple of days that be prepared for shock. Multiplex bookings were just horrendous. And it hasnt improved a bit on saturday aswell.
Be ready for more shock, saturday will be lower than friday as Single screens were at high level and Single screens always come down than first day.
As i was telling, it is going to perform like BOSS on little higher level.
BOSS first day was 12 cr due to excellent SS performance and poor multiplex. Same case here. BOSS wrapped around 57 cr, Jai ho will wrap around 85-90 cr.
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January 24, 2014 at 4:16 PM
what a lot of cobblers,this site has been on a weed,one of the worse site for every star,this site thinks its all about srk & co,for this site paheli was a blockbuster,some jokers runnig this site
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January 24, 2014 at 2:07 PM
LOL!
I wonder if Amir Khan is beginning to get worried that he wasn’t able to get audience for his dost.
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January 24, 2014 at 2:20 PM
I found a perfect spelling for srk sarukh. Or saruk.
Aamir rooting for Jaiho is amusing.
Aamir, dont sell bad cinema just because he is your friend. You will lose credibility.
Salman is no SRK and his ride to success is luck. And a saleable heroine like Katrina or Deepika is as important.
Salman needs good music and some comedy than Sohail Khan directing.
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January 24, 2014 at 2:21 PM
15cr is bad news. everybody was expecting a 20cr+ first day. I think this may not even cross 100cr which is now the lowest benchmark for any big film.
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January 24, 2014 at 3:25 PM
He endorsed Modi and lost his ‘alp-sankhyak’ fan-bank.
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January 24, 2014 at 3:31 PM
I don’t think that has anything to do with it. If people were influenced then there were other things in past and no one bothered. People are simply not excited about the product.
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January 24, 2014 at 3:36 PM
Aisey hi phek rahe hain hum, shaayad deewar pe chipak jaye. Light Lijiye.
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January 24, 2014 at 3:41 PM
Nice Nykavi bhai.
Hope u r doing good.
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January 24, 2014 at 3:43 PM
Good to see you.
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January 24, 2014 at 4:46 PM
Good to see you Ravi. How are you doing?
Finally, the correction begins, what say?
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January 24, 2014 at 5:05 PM
Fantastic seeing you here after so long Ravi.. hope all’s well at your end.. where have you been?!
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January 24, 2014 at 5:12 PM
Welcome back ravi
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January 24, 2014 at 3:58 PM
I haven’t seen the movie but from the trailer it looked as pedestrian as it gets…the dialogues and acting everything looked forced and out of place…this looked like Sunny Deol movie which would have collected 15crr in lifetime total…lol…a bit surprising if it fails to hit 125crr but not shocking either…this looked the most dullest Salman’s movie in recent times since his blockbuster streak which started with Wanted
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January 24, 2014 at 4:18 PM
Bollywood box-office roundup -male actors
Just like my take on the oscar nominations 2014, this is somewhat of an unbiased summarising roundup for people who want to see beyond the noise and the spin. Here are the stocks of the main male actors as I see them now—
The BIGGEST Losers –the ‘peeing club’
When we saw a tweet pic released (aptly by aamir himself!) of aamir pissing way to glory with Salman, it was somewhat more than symbolic
Loser 1
Salman khan –have never considered /acknowledged him ever as actor or star pre-dabang. Jai hos shameful fate is not a surprise at all. Salmans career is far from over but the orgasmic unnatural ‘turbo boost’ he has been enjoying lately will come under a leash somewhat (kick will do well though but not a record breaker)
Loser 2
Aamir khan
Now this is where the boys are separated from men! Most will consider him to be a big winner given dhoom3’s grossing above krrish3 & CE. But but..
Hang on..
a) Aamirs appeal and core audience got antagonised here
b) he was seen increasingly as a ‘sell out’ and just like his peeing antic with Salman, his ‘pseudo intellectualism’ came out into the open
But above all
C) it broke the MYTH of Aamirs trending appeal (following talaash percolating into dhoom3
d) so emphatic was this verdict
That dhoom3 that got close to 250 crores in its first week
Couldn’t muster just 100 crores in the remaining entire run
Heck not even 50 crores
Which to me wasn’t shocking ..,
But besides ripping apart Aamirs credibility,
For all times to come–it has stripped those who pedalled limitless trending and so on..
This signalled the literal DEATH of TRENDING (& it’s proponents got a big shock!)
Unsurprisingly, after dhoom3, aamir has again gone into an unnatural break pushing /delaying PK –for no major reason
He comes across as a student who keeps dropping year(s) to mug up, sitting at home, avoiding failure and getting a bump in his marks…
So in one stroke
The guy (Salman) who could make any film run just by his presence
And the guy who was the trending/discretion king got cut to size
No wonder the two were caught peeing (away their strengths…)–
Box office is truly a great leveller
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January 24, 2014 at 4:34 PM
Box office round up –male actors –vol 2
1) Hritik Roshan
Now I’m not a v big hritk Roshan fan in a way the aamir or abhishrek or even srk fans operate here.
But I do see and appreciate something good
Carrying a proven franchise dhoom3 (which was a well rounded and supported product in all ways) is much easier
But in krrish3. , the film was good only in certain junctures, the cast/songs/ sensibility left much to desire
Besides the personal and health problems he faced all added up
In a similar juncture, aamir disappeared for years from the scene, went into a nervous breakdown and came back with a underpoerfomaing mangal pande,
But the way hritk has responded to this by his one-man show in k3 and in real life –he’s the winner no 1.
2) SRK
this guy was written off after subpar JTHJ, don2 etc (though even his ‘flops’ were 100+)
And unarguably he was on a decline in more ways than one…
With CE, srk has stemmed the tide
Though greatly aided by rohit shetty and deepika —
Srk is back in the reckoning
Though he is no longer what he used to be (& will never be the same again!) his remnant box office appeal worldwide is more than many current biggies
It’s no wonder that he has been the undisputed king for so long
In my book, srk is the biggest khan all things considered …
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Some ‘RELATIVE’ winners
1) ranbir kapoor –inspite of besharam he has come here to stay. By Yjhd he got his biggest grosser and is clinching a space somewhat like Leonardo dicaprio of Bollywood
He is here for the long haul and has a bright future ahead
2) ranveer Singh
Have liked his presence and energy, didn’t like him much in raam leela, was better in lootere
His latest with PC is alright but nothing great
But when I watched the promo of gun day today, it reconfirmed what I’ve felt–
Jus saw a two second promo of him running..
After hritk and ranbir –he is the one to watch-his best it yet to come
Disclaimer
This piece does not include ex-stars, glorified stars, media stars and star surenames…
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January 24, 2014 at 5:04 PM
Addendum
Typos (only some that I picked up)
Dhoom 3 made close to 250 in first two weeks (which was v good but not that unexpected!) but it’s the post 2 weeks phase, that folks here are trying to hide
Heck the gold standard BOI even stopped releasing figures after that (when inflating them didn’t work!)
This does not include pseudo-stars/’star surnames’…
Those like akshay Kumar and ajay devgun will continue to do well in the right project but they will never be the topmost stars (just like their entire careers!)
TO ADD—
A new entrant in my list–
Saw few minutes of a movie callled ‘shudh desi romance’
May complete it later –parineeti was her usual chirpy and irritating self and the other gal-I didn’t register her…
As usual –I predict early & clear
Saw a few scenes of a guy ….I’ve forgotten his name
But what I do remember is that he has a v good future if he handles himself well..
He can be a poor mans (as of now) mix of hritik and ranbir…
–I suspect he should get some good projects now..has he got any new films.
May complete this film soon
And by the way–what’s this guys name …
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January 24, 2014 at 5:18 PM
Why do you even bother?
Hardly anyone reads or onteracts.
Severe case of ‘online halitosis’!
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January 24, 2014 at 5:33 PM
There comes the ‘thing’…
[edited]
It’s one thing not being able to counter something
One option is to stay quiet (like many others do) or even ignore
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January 24, 2014 at 5:39 PM
The way the truth or other viewpoints unsettles some is interesting
U may not agree to the other viewpoint
But this attempt at pushing some fixed ideas down the throat of others or trying to pass a ‘writ’ is laughable..
As for ‘not answering’ –it can be due to many reasons –main one being ‘not being able to answer…’
And yeah–go get a bath first …
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January 24, 2014 at 6:14 PM
salman’s jai ho has no buzz at all,is it the one that got away or is one caught at the time of his first flop.Not a good start when he has back to back blockbusters.
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January 24, 2014 at 7:25 PM
lol but so called secular brigade is trying to make issue to create buzz
http://ibnlive.in.com/news/owaisi-asks-his-supporters-not-to-watch-salman-khans-jai-ho/447461-8-66.html
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January 24, 2014 at 7:26 PM
Sensing zero public support in Maharashtra, Samajwadi Party call off its stir against Salman Khan’s film
Sensing zero public support in Maharashtra, Samajwadi Party call off its stir against Salman Khan’s film
Maharashtra unit of Samajwadi Party (SP) which has threatened to disrupt the screening of Salman Khan’s film ‘Jai Ho’ on Thursday, decided to call if off its stir on Friday after receiving no support from even within the party. Party’s move was hugely criticised in social media.
Jai Ho was released peacefully in Maharashtra Friday.
However, the party attributes the change of heart to the “republic day & law order” situation. In a press release on Friday, Zulfikar Azmi, the secretary of state unit of SP, who has shot off a letter to Salman Khan insisting an apology over Khan’s alleged clean chit to Gujarat Chief Minister and BJP’s prime ministerial candidate Narendra Modi, states that the party has decided not to disrupt the screening owing to ‘law and order” situation especially ahead of Republic Day.
An office bearer also claimed that they decided to do away with the stir as Chief Minister personally called them up to reconsider the move.
Zulfikar Azmi’s letter states that the minorities are still angry with Khan due to his clean chit to Modi and party has called of its stir hoping that Salman would respect the public sentiments and apologise to them. Congress has earlier trashed out the Azmi’s move calling him as “galli-ka-neta” and his gimmick-an unsuccessful exercise to retain the sliding minority vote bank.
Interestingly, his office email mentions that stir is being called off due to Independence day.
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January 24, 2014 at 9:02 PM
Fee l a touch sad for Salman here. One could sense from the promos that this was going to be let down. He managed to turn mediocre fare like ETT and absolute trash like Bodyguard into huge BO successes but Jai Looks like is going to under perform. Again, this shows that the irresponsible BO numbers and projections are just that- irresponsible. This was never going to be a D3 just like D3 was never going to gross 300-350 crores.
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January 24, 2014 at 6:22 PM
2) SRK
this guy was written off after subpar JTHJ, don2 etc (though even his ‘flops’ were 100+)
And unarguably he was on a decline in more ways than one…
With CE, srk has stemmed the tide
Though greatly aided by rohit shetty and deepika –
Srk is back in the reckoning
Though he is no longer what he used to be (& will never be the same again!) his remnant box office appeal worldwide is more than many current biggies
It’s no wonder that he has been the undisputed king for so long
In my book, srk is the biggest khan all things considered …
apex,
srk was never in doubt as no 1 of bollywood but one has a saying “what goes up must come down” as you can imagine he is on a free-fall,although CE did well but soon after D3 shattered all box-office ,CE was khatam on 3rd week while D3 was still cruising on its 4th week.so thats a difference in all khans domination,one is on its way out while other is on its way in.
1. Amir khan
2. salman khan ( pre-jai ho ) if it flops it will change hands with srk to 3.
3. srk
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January 24, 2014 at 8:12 PM
“CE was khatam on 3rd week while D3 was still cruising on its 4th week.”
Can you provide Boxoffice number of CE 4th week and provide same for D3. Please provide for 5th week too.
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January 24, 2014 at 9:04 PM
CE is already forgotten. Who gives a rats ass re what it did in week four or five!
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January 25, 2014 at 5:56 PM
Z, no need for a proof,CE was ek dum khalash on 3rd week and thats why D3 broke CE record in 11 days.need proof ask anyone apart from srk fanatics.
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January 25, 2014 at 12:14 PM
I don’t really agree there Apex. Truly spectacular box office results can be achieved only on 3 or 4 occasions in a year by big stars and properly packaged product releasing at the right time. This is the time when family / masses and generally everyone turn up. Salman blundered in choosing this date as this weekend hardly has any meat and here republic day too falls on a Sunday. Exams are round the corner where parents more into their kid’s studies than planning movie outing. Full advantage of this was at display last year for solo release of CE with Eid K3 in Diwali and D3 during Christmas
Movie watching business now is directly connected to disposable money at hand and apart from one big summer movie after exams its mostly a festival thing for truly spectacular figures.
That’s why there is so much bad blood for these 3 / 4 important dates among stars. Aamir being canny has mastered this art of shifting dates to gauge / suit public mood. Since money is least of his concerns he does not mind shifting releases by good one/ two years to get a big opener.
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January 24, 2014 at 4:37 PM
Not sure even a die hard Salman fan would write such nonsense!
http://entertainment.oneindia.in/bollywood/box-office/2014/salman-khan-jai-ho-first-day-collection-box-office-130516.html
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January 25, 2014 at 1:11 AM
@Rajenmaniar..yes, you are right. Past is past and i don’t even remember the first day collections of Alladin.
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January 24, 2014 at 4:52 PM
Dont be surprise Guys….i was telling it for last couple of days that be prepared for shock. Multiplex bookings were just horrendous. And it hasnt improved a bit on saturday aswell.
Be ready for more shock, saturday will be lower than friday as Single screens were at high level and Single screens always come down than first day.
As i was telling, it is going to perform like BOSS on little higher level.
BOSS first day was 12 cr due to excellent SS performance and poor multiplex. Same case here. BOSS wrapped around 57 cr, Jai ho will wrap around 85-90 cr.
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January 24, 2014 at 4:55 PM
Jai Ho 60% lower than Dhoom3 on first day in Gurgaon.
was Girish Johar @girishjohar 43m
Gurgaon Friday #JaiHo TOTAL – 1995338
Girish Johar @girishjohar Dec 20
#Dhoom3 Gurgaon Friday 50lacs +
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January 24, 2014 at 4:55 PM
Other than Aamir and perhaps SRK, none of these other superstars can attempt ‘zara hatke’ movies. It makes Talaash BO even more commendable.
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January 24, 2014 at 4:56 PM
Amod Mehra @MehraAmod 13h
#JaI Ho preaches that help 3 people & request them to in turn help 3 more.. the movie is mentally tiring.. I did my bit..now you help 3 more
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January 24, 2014 at 4:57 PM
Other than Aamir (and perhaps SRK on a good day), none of these other superstars are able to attempt ‘zara hatke’ scripts. Makes Talaash BO even more commendable.
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January 24, 2014 at 5:12 PM
Aamir khan on koffee with kjo–
“Salman is easily the bigger star than me. In my films everything from story, screenplay, cast, music etc has to be v good for it to do well. All Salman has to do is pull up his belt a few times”.
Aamir was right here. He is most dependant on good scripts, and support system to fire. He couples that with strategic planning, unnatural breaks etc
And I repeat –there’s nothing wrong in that and is a tactic but needs to be seen as that rather than some rocket science.
Salman is least dependant on the film quality (in the brief phase where he is/was at his turbo phase).
However aamir never talks in a similar way about the other khan -the one who matters—
the real mix of star and (over) acting ability –The real thing died in JTHJ …
Ps: as for talaash & ‘shutter island’ etc –c’mon guys give us a break
Note that I enjoyed parts of d3 and liked aamir in parts
In talaash–I loved Aamirs role–infact it is one of my favorite male roles in the past few years…
But let’s get the context right…
Sometimes layers of spin needs to be unravelled to see it
The truth..
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January 25, 2014 at 3:21 PM
Agree with you on all points. Talaash has been Aamir’s best performance in the last decade
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January 24, 2014 at 9:18 PM
Owaisi hate speech against Salman. See what I said earlier about losing out on his fan-bank due to Modi. I did not even know this happened, just thought about the connection with Modi:
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January 24, 2014 at 9:42 PM
Owaisi did not ask critics to give 2 and one and half a star.
The fact is it is a bad film and no use blaming the new heroine either. Singham did tremendous business inspite of a new heroine. ETT was an Yash Raj product with Katrina as icing on the cake and BG had good music and a known heroine and a story too. Merely taking corruption as an issue will bore the audience. We have the real heroes Kejriwal and Anna doing that. Dont need fake heroes who lead ostentatious lives on one hand and preach.
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January 24, 2014 at 9:58 PM
lesson to be learnt when kamal hasan made hey ram people argued but when he made vishwaroopam he literally had to suffered, lesson is clear sabotage the fanbase and finish him
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January 25, 2014 at 12:04 AM
Don’t think his association with Modi had much to do with the subpar opening of Jai Ho..the project did not evoke much interest right from the beginning; not choosing a popular female lead along with poor music made matters worse
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January 24, 2014 at 9:54 PM
http://www.siasat.com/english/news/dont-buy-ticket-salmans-film-hyderabad-asad-owaisi
Just read comments on that page. There is a lot of hatred against Salman specifically because of the Modi meeting.
I can’t believe that this boycott would have not at all caused a dent in the opening day collections.
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January 24, 2014 at 10:02 PM
the biggest fan following is in nizam followed by u.p of salman khan of a certain community , also lower and middle class agressive muslim
samajhdar ko ishara hi kafi hai
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January 24, 2014 at 10:21 PM
this is vry bad trend :
hounding lata mangskar, narayan murthy an now salman through proxies
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January 25, 2014 at 6:52 AM
I also strongly disapprove of Salman giving Modi a clean chit, if that is the ‘aarop’ against him by this person.
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January 25, 2014 at 10:38 AM
what speechless
apni court khol lo and lebel it as “supreme court of owaisi” …he himself is bhagoda when he faced the music
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January 25, 2014 at 11:18 AM
>apni court khol lo and lebel it as “supreme court of owaisi” …he himself is bhagoda when he faced the music
No need. I’m allowed to have personal opinion. If you’d quoted me the *I* word would have been reinforced. “I also strongly disapprove …….”
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January 24, 2014 at 9:55 PM
what ha hed do in first place in argumnt word should have been there on disruption , films run on entertainment quotient (and people decide the fate not critics let it be good or bad, anywayb salman’s movie never depend on critics anyway)
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January 24, 2014 at 10:52 PM
Well..so if Aamir plans his movie strategically that’s his game plan. No one has stopped any other actors to do so. He did get the strategy right with the promotion and release of Ghajini and get a first 100 cr 6 years ago and then 3I sparked him off into one of the most loved characters and did the BO Trick..what he did with Dhoom3 is took a franchise and elevated it to a level never heard off..had the story been somewhat better..the movie would have cross 300 crore …and those who are saying it didnt trend well ….well 3 30 crore plus days and 3 20 crore plus days is no easy feat either. People enjoyed the movie but didnt love it as 3I.
Hrithik was a saving grace of Krissh3 but overall it was a damp squib movie and whatever the franchise had, he was able to get in terms of BO results. He needs to stage a comeback now with a personal low at this point of time, i have always maintained he has wasted some very important years of his career and allowed others in the space.
SRK..is on a comeback trail..Chennai Express did the trick for him and Happy NY will let him capitalize on that new found mojo..
Salman..Jai Ho was never going to work..i am rooting for him in Kick.
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January 24, 2014 at 11:29 PM
so you guys concluded one community only made salman a superstar. As they backed out, his films flop. Then i must say that community is biggest stupid to make innumerous bad movies like BG, Ready, ETT, Dabangg2 hits.
Also, that community is responsible solely for making an extremely bad actor like sallu a superstar ? Surely, this community has no sense of movies or even otherwise at all.
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January 24, 2014 at 11:54 PM
no raghav there is a mthod to madness:
its a scarcasm(see the earlier link: zero response in maharashtra) to those who used to say same by posting earlier links are carvan and associated his recent rise with same(won’t name person again samajhar ko ishara kafi hai ) and ya narratives can easily be reversed and ya not a word how just on release these demonstration happen mysteriously and speech from no where an how moral like akhtar had gone into oblivion and always attacked congressi rival but not this downpour of hate
thing is unlike other of his its not a festival (eid) release , with a dull movie with no appealing music, picture to old city main bhi release huyi hai ….
btw one more comment edited yesterday on leo with no so fancy things on abhishek bachchan
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January 24, 2014 at 11:58 PM
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January 25, 2014 at 12:17 AM
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/people/chart/?id=leonardodicaprio.htm
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January 25, 2014 at 2:55 AM
At last caught up with Wolf of Wall Street. Loved the film and what a performance by Leo! Blew my mind! How could he lay bare the soul of such a crazed character with such accuracy, with every detail so clearly etched out. Full marks to the actress playing Naomi. And respect for Scorsese for managing to capture the testosterone and greed driven male- dominated camaraderie of the brokerage firm, the frenzied energy, the hypnotic cult atmosphere, and the depravity at the core of each character. A thoroughly satisfying film-going experience.
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January 25, 2014 at 3:22 AM
still have yet to catch it…looks like im missing out on a lot of goodness!
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January 25, 2014 at 3:20 AM
so when i first saw the trailer of Jai Ho and commented that it looked pretty ‘serious’ i was still not expecting it to be as serious as it was! it is so hard to make a movie like this..with this kind of subject…sohail khan attempted and failed miserably(but honestly he never had a chance with his credentials). i love this kind of subject….but not in this mode. this movie needed another kind of treatment…another kind of director…and another kind of lead actor.
on the movie opening less than expected…well 15cr is still damn good! with awful music, no name lead actress, and failed director…this movie had everything going against it at the BO. not sure how it will hold up. this moment reminds me of another sallu film…kyun ki…it might well be just too ‘serious’ to be accepted at the BO. bad sallu films with good music and lots of comedy and entertainment has proven to work at the BO (bodyguard, ready, dabangg 2)…bad sallu films without lots of comedy and good music has proven to fail at the BO (veer, yuvraaj, london dreams, garv, kyun ki).
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January 25, 2014 at 7:42 AM
taran adarsh @taran_adarsh 5h
#JaiHo Fri ₹ 17.55 cr nett. India biz only.
taran adarsh @taran_adarsh 4h
#JaiHo reports are very positive, expecting the biz to witness escalation on Sat. Tomorrow, 26 Jan holiday + Sunday should hit big numbers.
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January 25, 2014 at 7:44 AM
BOI have the same number though a different writeup:
http://www.boxofficeindia.com/Details/art_detail/jaihofirstdayterritorialbreakdown
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January 25, 2014 at 7:44 AM
http://www.boxofficeindia.com/Details/art_detail/jaihofirstdaycollections
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January 25, 2014 at 7:46 AM
NBOC also have the same:
http://www.boxofficeindia.co.in/jai-ho-day-one-all-india-nboc/
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January 25, 2014 at 7:49 AM
List of Filmfare winners:
http://www.bollywoodhungama.com/movies/features/type/view/id/6080
though I don’t think anything of these awards I am nonetheless glad to see Mehra get some attention.
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January 25, 2014 at 8:15 AM
Why? They are bought and anyway worthless.
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January 25, 2014 at 8:32 AM
yes true.. just don’t mind seeing a worthy person get some attention even if it’s in this cesspool of Hindi film awards.
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January 25, 2014 at 9:33 AM
You see him in a cesspool and are still happy?
Strange are your ways, satyam.
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January 25, 2014 at 9:50 AM
Sometimes in an economy of dirt one should retrieve what one can! Why? Because even though it doesn’t change my opinion of the awards there are often practical consequences to actors or directors (or whoever) getting this kind of limelight. So my assessment on anyone doesn’t change because of these things but opportunities can sometimes be created for people based on this kind of visibility. All within reason of course. Plus remember that the larger cesspool here is Bollywood itself!
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January 25, 2014 at 11:14 AM
>there are often practical consequences to actors or directors (or whoever) getting this kind of limelight.
Hmmm. So there ‘is’ something positive.
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January 25, 2014 at 8:50 PM
Lol, I didn’t check the link till later so for some reason reading your comment made me think Vinod Mehra must have won the lifetime achievement award! So random…
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January 25, 2014 at 8:27 AM
Yes Satyam–good to see Mehra being awarded–the guy is deserving and needs to be encouraged…
Though I’m not happy with farhans choice –agree with somewhat with naseer that Farhan worked v hard and looked like ‘rocky’ that’s fine but that wasn’t milkha …
Also farhans choice also seems the convenient politically correct one to avoid controversy –since there were 3-4 contenders among the big heros –aamir, hr, srk, even ranbir …
Suddenly they have decided not to award the biggest film(s)!
Happy for deepika though I would have liked her to win for Yjhd -for naina talwar–wt say Amy lol
“Why? They are bought and anyway worthless.”–hehe
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January 25, 2014 at 9:43 AM
What Naseer would say about Farhan winning the award?
Filmfare awards for politicians.
Best actor award Kejriwal.
Lifetime achievement award Anna.
Jury award for best actor Modi.
Best debut award Kejriwal.
Best child actor award Rahul?
Most controversial Akhilesh?
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January 25, 2014 at 10:41 AM
nothing good for d3 and chennai express
good finally a start not based on gross taking into account rockstar last year
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January 25, 2014 at 12:56 PM
10% fall in kanpur on Saturday. Multiplex jump insignificantly. SS fell 33%.
Girish Johar @girishjohar 1m
KANPUR (JAI HO) Saturday Multiplexes-621954 Single Screen-281569.50 TOTAL-903523.50 2days Total-1925839
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January 25, 2014 at 1:36 PM
20% fall in Varanasi. Here, Multiplex fell by 15% and SS by 30%.
Girish Johar @girishjohar 4m
Varanasi Sat #JaiHo MPX 516282 S S 124149 TOTAL 640431 GTOTAL 1438819
Girish Johar @girishjohar Jan 24
Varanasi #JaiHo FRIDAY MPX 615183 SS 183205 TOTAL 798388
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January 25, 2014 at 1:38 PM
20% fall in Varanasi
Varanasi #JaiHo FRIDAY MPX 615183 SS 183205 TOTAL 798388
Varanasi Sat #JaiHo MPX 516282 S S 124149 TOTAL 640431 GTOTAL 1438819
SS , the last hope , is in Krrish 3 mode i.e. Free Fall.
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January 25, 2014 at 2:03 PM
Expect good jump of 40-50% on sunday. i think saturday will be 15 cr and sunday 22-24 cr.
Weekend total – 54-56 cr
It will be stable on monday in single screens. But will fall big after wards. SS friendly movies are stable on monday. They show actual trend on tuesday. As saturday 30% fall in SS indicate no good response in SS either.
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January 25, 2014 at 3:03 PM
Amod mehra is so funny. For those who dont know he is hardcore srkian. He is srkian.
Amod Mehra @MehraAmod 4h
Aam aadmi sota hua sher hai.. Ungli mat kar.. Jaag gaya to.. Interval main hi ghar chala jayega.. !!
Amod Mehra @MehraAmod Jan 24
#JaI Ho preaches that help 3 people & request them to in turn help 3 more.. the movie is mentally tiring.. I did my bit..now you help 3 more
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January 25, 2014 at 11:51 PM
LOL, I think audience is taking Salman’s & Jai Ho’s message seriously. They are very keen in helping at least 3 people in not wasting their money for this movie 🙂
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January 25, 2014 at 9:36 PM
Good Jump in Gurgaon, but is multiplex city. So, it eems like multiplex at many places jumped. But, SS reported sofar fell.
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January 26, 2014 at 2:55 AM
Jai Ho Second Day Business
Sunday 26 January 2014 10.00 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
Jai Ho had a small drop in business on its second day as it grossed around 16.50 crore nett taking its two day business to around 33.50 crore nett. The business was inmost circuits was similar to Friday with mass circuits being down as they did well on Friday.. The multiplex audience has not taken to the film as they did not gain a lot on Saturday despite being low on Friday
The performance at single screens is better but not outstanding. Sunday is a big holiday for Republic Day so the film should show a good jump.
Sunday is the acid test for Jai Ho and the jump has to be huge. Krrish 3 also suffered a bit in its first three days but showed a huge jump on its fourth day which was a national holiday and that is the sort of thing that is needed by Jai Ho to have a chance of being successful. The chances do look slim as Krrish 3 was hit by pre- diwali festivities in its opening few days but there is no such case here. The plus for the film is that Saturday did not fall a lot so it can’t be written off yet.
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January 26, 2014 at 8:16 AM
The one positive thing here is that for once Taran’s, the producers’ (Eros) and BOI’s number match each other.
Taran tweeted that his sources gave him a total of 16.25cr for Saturday and Eros then provided him with the same total. BOI have Saturday at around 16.5cr.
The Friday numbers were also pretty similar (17.25cr from BOI and 17.5 from Taran).
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January 26, 2014 at 8:19 AM
yes interestingly they all have the same number. On the first day NBOC had the same one too.
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January 26, 2014 at 9:36 AM
Sunday saw big jump. 50% jump was my prediction, but it can go even higher. Night shows are totally down badly, which can dent anymore jump further.
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January 26, 2014 at 10:49 AM
curious thing was title though:
netaji’s first draft of national anthem was jai ho later rehman in slumdod and now tried to ride but again carrying his brother even dabang2 by arbaz was not a patch of original
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January 26, 2014 at 10:58 AM
*slumdog*
btw they are saying its one of better salman movie in sensibility (compared to his recent one)but commercially the worst
he is just not cut out for this world as evident with kyun ki, phir milenge, marigold etc and add to it the brother involved
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January 26, 2014 at 12:28 PM
Disgusting Communal Analysis by Komal Nahta, he is dirt on film industry.
He blames Salma’s support to Modi for poor opening of Jai Ho.
Komal Nahta @KomalNahta 5h
Figures prove dat a section of Muslims has boycottd salman’s JaiHo coz dey havn’t liked his comments on modi.Wil the hero do damage control?
Komal Nahta @KomalNahta 4h
And what salman said was quite different frm what some fanatics wud hav us believe. He DID NOT say modi shd not apologise
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January 26, 2014 at 12:31 PM
Why not blame Mulayam singh for Jai Ho and Dedh Ishqia flops, Salman and Madhuri attended Saifai Mahotsav dance drama which was widely criticized by both communities and everyone in media aswell.
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January 26, 2014 at 6:12 PM
total BS by Nahta, he could be in trouble if Modi comes to power 🙂
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January 27, 2014 at 3:35 PM
Clerics: Boycott Salman Khan’s films as star backs Narendra Modi
Mohammed Wajihuddin,TNN | Jan 28, 2014, 01.12 AM
IST MUMBAI:
A section of clerics has asked Muslims to boycott Salman Khan’s films and the products he endorses till he apologises for saying Narendra Modi need not express regret for the 2002 Gujarat riots.
Angry voices have risen from the community since the actor flew kites with the Gujarat CM recently while publicizing his latest movie and seemingly endorsed the BJP leader’s push to be the next prime minister. After calling Modi a “great man” in Ahmedabad, Salman told a news channel last week that there was no need for the CM to apologise for the riots as the judiciary had given him a clean chit.
“Salman’s statement that there is no need for Modi to say sorry for the 2002 riots is provocative and deplorable. It has hurt the sentiments of Muslims and the community should boycott the actor’s present and future films and the products he endorses unless he apologises,” said Maulana Ejaz Kashmiri, a member of the All India Ulema Council and an imam at a mosque in Bhendi Bazaar. Kashmiri has appealed to Muslims not to invite Salman to their social and religious functions.
“Modi will do anything to improve his image among Muslims and secular voters. Did Salman feel the pain of women and children who suffered during the riots? What has he done to rehabilitate the victims?” asked Maulana Khalilur Rahman Noorie, general secretary of the Tanzeem Aima Masajid, an organization of imams.
Salman’s Ahmedabad comments came soon after another storm over his decision to perform at the Samajwadi Party’s Saifai Festival at a time when survivors of the Muzaffarnagar riots were struggling in badly-provided relief camps.
Salman’s father Salim Khan said: “Salman didn’t say anything outrageous. Does anybody remember the many CMs during whose rule several communal riots happened? They remember Modi because he has won elections and is aiming to become PM.”
The call hasn’t gone down well with some. Zafar Sareshwala, a diehard Modi supporter, said: “Salman is a soft target and maulvis don’t have better things to do than attack Salman Khan.”
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January 26, 2014 at 12:49 PM
Saw Jai Ho here in Illinois State university town with all the indian student crowd many of whom are Bhai fans…the film is a disgraceful B grade film. Salman made a big mistake trusting his brother with the remake…he should have asked AR Murugodoss for direction as he would have made more tighter movie…
People go crazy in the film there’s actors in Wholesale…Pulkit Samrat, Sharad Kapoor, Aditya Pancholi, Ashmit Patel,etc etc etc…who show up and do their bit.
It felt like Sandhi Sudha commercial wherein they pack tv actors for telling good things about the product..
Salman and his fights in the end, Danny and Tabu are the better part of the film…
Dont get me started on crappy music crappy heroine…
Salman you cannot take audience for granted…i will watch and spedn for you if you offer a good entertainment package deal…not this and stop working with your brothers…they killed ur Dabbang franchise…unless you get Abhinav Kashyap or someone else and Sohail Khan should stick to Comedy Circus…
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January 26, 2014 at 1:07 PM
‘disgraceful B grade film’ ‘Sandhi Sudha commercial’ ‘crappy music crappy heroine…’
What are you talking bout about?
Trade Analyst and Film Critic Komal Nahta thinks it is Modi.
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January 26, 2014 at 12:59 PM
The movie will not do more than 20 Cr today, which gives it a weekend of around 54 Cr. Guess it’ll find ot difficult to even reach 100 Cr.
The reasons here are multiple.
1. Masala Fatigue
2. Bad movie
Most importantly
3. Salman has reached the end of his glory days. He had a couple of very good years but i guess the golden streak is over.
Of the 3 big guys, Salman is the one who is totally dependent on one kind of movies. So the failure of jai ho is not good for him.
The other two will still go om for a while.
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January 26, 2014 at 1:15 PM
I think Sunday is more than 25 cr.
Kanpur jumps 100% on sunday as compared to Friday.
Sunday > Friday + Saturday
Girish Johar @girishjohar 23m
KANPUR (JAI HO) Sunday Multiplexes-1310978 Single Screen-742881 TOTAL-2053859 3days Total-3979698.50
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January 26, 2014 at 1:30 PM
Ok.. Not sure about this. Maybe you are right.
Bbt the movie has substantially underperformed in Mumbai today, especially the multiplexes. I doubt that the movie will be able to cross 20 – 21Cr.
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January 26, 2014 at 10:06 PM
Kanpur always shows high jumps on a Holiday.
Same happened during During Dhoom 3 Christmas.
Wednesday(Christmas)collection at Kanpur was more than sum of Mon and Tuesday but overall collections improved from 20(mon), 20(tue) to 25(wed).
BTW Gurgaon has shown only 22% jump from Saturday Level.
Sat – 26L
Sun 32L
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January 26, 2014 at 11:48 PM
Gurgaon Sunday jumps by 21% on Saturday and 50% on Friday collections . Girish Johar @girishjohar 1h
Gurgaon Sun #JaiHo TOTAL – 3192745 .. Wow
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January 26, 2014 at 1:16 PM
Though, i think monday will fall huge in multiplex and tuesday in single screen as well to never go up. Production values of the film are so bad.
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January 26, 2014 at 1:38 PM
SMJ 2 promos: Satyam – this deserves a new post
http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=3897757
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January 26, 2014 at 3:33 PM
will get to it later. in between stuff.
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January 26, 2014 at 2:07 PM
http://www.bollywoodhungama.com/news/2378534/Aishwarya-to-make-a-comeback-with-Mani-Ratnam
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January 26, 2014 at 6:20 PM
JANUARY 26, 2014, 12:56 PM
‘I, Frankenstein’ Disappoints at the Box Office
By BROOKS BARNES
Talk about a corpse. Moviegoers this weekend largely stayed away from the newly released “I, Frankenstein” (Lionsgate), which generated just $8.3 million in ticket sales, for sixth place — a terrible result for a movie that cost $65 million to make and tens of millions more to advertise. Lakeshore Entertainment and Hopscotch Features shouldered almost all costs. Box office analysts posited on Sunday that the target audience, young men, simply had little interest in seeing Mary Shelley’s undead monster re-imagined as an action hero; abysmal reviews didn’t help.
The two top-selling movies in North America over the weekend were “Ride Along” and “Lone Survivor,” both holdovers from Universal. “Ride Along” took in about $21.2 million, for a two-week total of $75.4 million, according to Rentrak, which compiles box office data. “Lone Survivor” had ticket sales of $12.6 million, for a five-week total of about $93.6 million. A pair of animated movies were next: “The Nut Job” (Open Road) took in an estimated $12.3 million, for a two-week total of $40.3 million, and “Frozen” (Disney) sold about $9 million in tickets, lifting its 10-week total to $347.8 million. In fifth-place, “Jack Ryan: Shadow Recruit” (Paramount) had ticket sales of $8.8 million, for a disappointing two-week total of $30.2 million.
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January 26, 2014 at 11:24 PM
New Delhi: Aamir Khan-starrer ‘3 Idiots’ has been nominated for the 37th Japan Academy Awards in the best Outstanding Foreign Language Film category.
According to the awards’ official website, ‘3 Idiots’, mentioned as “I’m sure, go well”, has been nominated with international movies like ‘Captain Phillips’, ‘Django Unchained’, ‘Gravity’ and ‘Les Miserables’
http://www.mid-day.com/articles/3-idiots-nominated-for-japan-academy-awards/15050044
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January 27, 2014 at 12:42 AM
Jai Ho Does Very Well On Sunday
Monday 27 January 2014 10.30 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
Jai Ho had a good weekend thanks to very good business on Sunday which was a national holiday. The film collected 17 crore nett on Friday and 16 crore nett on Saturday and the Sunday total as per early estimates is around 25 crore nett.
This will give weekend figures of around 58 crore nett so despite the initial not quite being that great, the weekend is actually challenging to be the highest ever for a Salman Khan dstarrer epending on what the final total for Sunday is.
Dabangg 2 grossed 58.50 crore nett in three days while Ek That Tiger grossed 56 crore nett and the figures of Jai Ho are around the same as Dabangg 2 depending on the final Sunday total. The business on Sunday has meant that the film has a chance of doing well which did not look the case after the first two days. A lot is dependent on the Monday as the jury is still out on the appreciation of the film as it only did the sort of business it should have on the big holiday while the other two days were below the mark.
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January 27, 2014 at 12:47 AM
Approximately 25cr Sunday for Jai Ho according to BOI. So, probable 58-59cr week end. The strong Sunday figures have made the week end business look decent.
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January 27, 2014 at 4:12 AM
Consolidated response to many points made with regards to Dhoom 3, Aamir Khan etc:
In responses to Apex’s many posts on how Dhoom 3 underperformed:
Firstly, it has clearly overperformed, in the sense that it grossed more than what everyone had predicted immediately after its release. It is the biggest grosser domestically and internationally, with more than two dozen records broken. If that is underperformance then we need to relook at words and their meanings. Who deserves the credit for its success? Obviously everyone who has contributed: Aamir, Vijay Krishna, Katrina in that order. Pritam, Abhishek, Uday have done their bit. This is one film where Aamir was criticized for hogging the film all to himself, being there in everyb frame and all that, so naturally he deserves the most credit for the film’s success.
Could it have done better. For sure. It indeed could have done 300 cr and more. If it was an independent film not tied to the apron strings of the Dhoom frnachise. But in exact opposition to what Apex thinks, it si the franchise that has set the limitation. After all, the real breakaway hits are never sequels: Sholay, DDLj, HAH, Gadar, 3 Idiots…Star Wars, Titanic, Avatar. A sequel can be a big hit, nota stratospheric hit. Looking at Dhoom 3 itself, what are the elements that worked the most? The drama, the emotins, the staging, songs like Kamli and Malang. None of which originate from the franchise. What work the least? The motor cycle chase, the action sequences…the elements that are carried over from the franchise. Even in terms of giving the film a good opening, I believe that a YRF production with Aamir and Katrina, showcased through Kamli, Malang anda few dramtic sequences would have got as big an opening. Ghajini and 3 idiots did that, right? And without the Dhoom baggage, the basic story of the great Indian circus centered around Sahir/Samir, their father and Aaliya could have emerged tighter, more powerful , leading to a overall more satisfying film and better trending, like Ghajini and 3 Idiots.
Next I would like to second Satyam when he says that Aamir is the only actor who makes films that are not comedy-capers blockbusters. Satyam mentions Ghajini. I would add Dhoom 3 to the list as well. It is the dram that works there as well. In fcat over the last decade, Aamir is the only actor who makes drama as a genre work. Whether it is TZP, Fanaa, RDB, Talaash or Dhoom 3…there is no other actor who makes serious dram work the way Aamir does. Salman’s failure in this territory has already been documented by someone here. Even for Shahrukh while Chak De ( which is really a sports caper than a human drama) succeeded; MNIK, KANK, Swades did not. The only other actor today who makes drama works is Ranbir. Whether it is Rajneeti, Rockstar or Barfi…he can draw people to watch him in a serious story. Bombay Velvet to establish this more strongly. As for Shahrukh, after Om Sahnti Om and Chennai Express, he has to depend on fluff again in Happy New Year.
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January 27, 2014 at 4:49 AM
if ghajini worked so has agneepath…historicals like ashoka and mangal pandey didn’t but jodha akbar did also before rajneeti gangajal and apharan brought 2 national awards to someone…rokstar was not a universal sucess and neither was rocket singh…barfi yes but not dark
cdi was as much a drama and i say always getting a family movie to be a big grosser is easy as it covers very genre ….why so much emphasis on comic capers did andaj apna apna worked or an adult comedy delhi belly outgrosses a masti franchise
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January 27, 2014 at 5:04 AM
rockstar: Yes agneepath worked. And that was drama. But its success was nowhere near Ghajini. Still I will grant that Hritik made that work. But that is just one. Jodha Akbar was a historical romance. Those have always worked. Mughal-EAzam was a runaway blockbuster in that genre. Mangal Pandey has to be cpmpated to Asoka, Legend of Bhagat Singh etc and Mangal Pandey is the most successful among them. I will agree that Ajay can make drama work. So can a few others. But we are talking of scale of success and number of serious drama one has succeeded with, both artistically and commercially. And Aamir is ahead of the rest there. Delhi Belly has an IMDB rating of 7.7 vs 4.3 of Grand Masti. And Delhi Belly was in English, with a few prints in Hindi. Still it did some 60 cr three years back. So when you look at artistic and commercial success, it is much ahead.
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January 27, 2014 at 5:17 AM
no utkal original memento was neo noir not packaged masala which we had in india…for every mea there have been numerous failure on historical romances and unlike bhagat singh mangal pandey had romance
db had its share of cheapness and inspiration(lock stock and snatch)…
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January 27, 2014 at 5:27 AM
“So can a few others. But we are talking of scale of success and number of serious drama one has succeeded with, ”
ya let it not be romantic drama or comedy drama
is d3 a pure serious drama or 3 idiots no it isn’t
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January 27, 2014 at 5:32 AM
rockstar: Having romance and being a historical romance are two different things. The anme Jodha-Akbar itself tells what genre of film it is. having said that I do give credit to Hritik ( and Aishwarya) for making JA work. No two ways about it. But, no Delhi Belly did NOT have cheapness, what it had was smartness. and waht is wring with inspiration? Is Pather Panchali any less a film because it was inspired y Bicycle Thieves.
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January 27, 2014 at 5:57 AM
but it always claimed so(pather panchali)
dialogues like “isne mere ch….sa hai’ and introduction of hero when he is busy licking “c….s” in blanket with dose on potties, homosexuality and gangster touch
what is there in name as said by shakespeare
(though he himself has his name written before it)…its not like what rushdie has written where he made it erotic(jodha bai)
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January 27, 2014 at 5:59 AM
http://www.satyajitray.org/bio/bicycle_thieves_effect.htm
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January 27, 2014 at 1:39 PM
67% Fall from Sunday gives 8.3 cr Monday, 33% fall from Friday gives 11.3 cr Monday.
Girish Johar @girishjohar 5m
KANPUR (JAI HO) Monday Multiplexes-342951 Single Screen-332864.50 TOTAL-675815.50 4days Total-4655514
KANPUR (JAI HO) Sunday Multiplexes-1310978 Single Screen-742881 TOTAL-2053859 3days Total-3979698.50
KANPUR (JAI HO) Saturday Multiplexes-621954 Single Screen-281569.50 TOTAL-903523.50 2days Total-1925839
KANPUR (JAI HO) Friday Multiplexes-602727 Single Screen-419588.50 TOTAL-1022315.50 1day Total-1022315.50
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January 27, 2014 at 1:48 PM
Nothing extra ordinary but i think this is stable compared to friday and saturday figures though sat n fri were low in kanpur.
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January 27, 2014 at 1:50 PM
Just as i had predicted It is amazingly stable in Single screens. Monday SS figures > Saturday
SS fell actually on tuesday and settles on wednesday.
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January 27, 2014 at 1:56 PM
Jai Ho grossed 58 crore nett approx over its first weekend. The business at multiplexes was only strong on Sunday which was a national holiday. The first two days at multiplexes left a lot to be desired.
The biggest question now is that is the growth on Sunday all to do with the national holiday or is there some appreciation for the content of the film. The next couple of days will be the deciding factor.
Jai Ho fared best in Mumbai as the Gujarat/Saurashtra belt did excellent business but quite a few circuits performed below par. Below is the first weekend territorial breakdown of Jai Ho.
http://www.boxofficeindia.com/Details/art_detail/jaihoweekendcollectiondetails
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January 27, 2014 at 1:58 PM
Taran has it slightly higher at 60.6 crores.
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January 27, 2014 at 1:57 PM
Jai Ho has grossed similar figures to Dabangg 2 over the first weekend with the big difference being that Dabangg 2 was a normal weekend while Jai Ho had the advantage of a big national holiday on its Sunday.
If we compare with Ek Tha Tiger its a similar situation as that film was released midweek so had a big first day but saw collections come down on the next two working days. It was also pre-eid so Ek That Tiger which affected collections
So although the collections of Jai Ho are similar to Dabangg 2 and Ek Tha Tiger, the weekend was also favourable for Jai Ho with Dabangg 2 having no holidays and Ek Tha Tiger having a midweek release. Below are the first weekend territory figures for Jai Ho, Dabangg 2 and Ek Tha Tiger.
http://www.boxofficeindia.com/Details/art_detail/allindiafirstweeekndjaihovdabangg2vekthatiger
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January 27, 2014 at 1:57 PM
Girish Johar @girishjohar 1m
I hope that I have to update for more tomorrow, as very very #earlytrends suggest a rough estimate of 8.5crs aprox for Monday #JaiHo
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January 27, 2014 at 11:06 PM
Looks like multiplex fall on Monday is Huge.
76% fall compared to Sunday, 70.5% fall from Saturday, 60.5% fall from Friday in Multiplex Dominated Gurgaon.
Girish Johar @girishjohar 1h
Gurgaon Mon #JaiHo TOTAL – 749591
Gurgaon Friday #JaiHo TOTAL – 1995338
Gurgaon Sun #JaiHo TOTAL – 3192745 .. Wow
Gurgaon Sat #JaiHo TOTAL – 2556474
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January 27, 2014 at 11:08 PM
Girish Johar @girishjohar 9m
@NotSoSnob 8.5…very early estimates
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January 27, 2014 at 1:57 PM
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/hindi/bollywood/news-interviews/When-Rekha-tried-correcting-Amitabh-Bachchan/articleshow/29446904.cms?
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January 27, 2014 at 2:38 PM
Sallu Bhai is already calling Jai Ho a flop!
http://www.saharasamay.com/entertainment-news/676546720/please-blame-me-for-jai-ho-s-failure-salman-khan.html
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January 27, 2014 at 3:52 PM
Nahta is doing something repulsive.. he’s claiming that Muslims stayed away from the film because of the Modi remarks and hence this box office result:
Irrespective of what the mullahs say the vast majority of the film audience doesn’t boycott films on these grounds! Here’s a film that didn’t excite anybody to begin with. Of course this is merely the flip-side of the communal card where the same folks always insinuate that there’s a larger than normal cross-section of the Muslim audience when it comes to Salman’s releases. There’s a lot of coded ‘Eid’ language on this score. The film was never hot (by Salman’s current standards). It’s rather despicable to play the communal card at this point.
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January 27, 2014 at 3:58 PM
of course Nahta is hardly reporting truthfully on even the comments:
http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/salman-khan-supports-narendra-modi-gujarat-riots-jai-ho-exclusive-interview/1/338675.html
there’s a family connection here as well. Salim Khan had high praise for Modi sometime back though he made it clear it was a personal relationship. In the video he’s clearly backtracking at points..
of course his idea that no one says anything when others go while they question him because he’s a Muslim is disingenuous. For reasons too obvious to spell out.
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January 27, 2014 at 7:20 PM
I think Nahata is saying an uncomfortable truth,IMO. The film HAS suffered on this account because communal elements have exploited Salman’s comments. The impact in terms may not be huge but I am sure is there. It is not that the average Muslim fan is communal
But they do allow tbeir insecurity to be exploited by their teligious leaders and parties like Congress and Samajwadi party.
SRK actually attracts the communal Muslim fans and fanatics far more, partly rated to his pandering and shameless politics. Salman and Aamir are favored more by the progressive
And overall more intelligent Muslims.
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January 27, 2014 at 4:04 PM
The film hasn’t flopped Infact far from it. This again shows Salman’s mega stardom. A nothing heroine, poor music (Salman films generally have rocking music) and whoever cut the trailer /s needs to be fired. The film is much more than an action film.
I still expect 140 minimum. All those who endorse the ‘trending theory’ (which I think is BS) should have no problems with this film. It made 60 weekend and will comfortably double it. However, Salman on current form should be doing much better.
His next Kick already looks much better. Jacky heroine, Randeep Hooda and Nawazudin in the cast. Plus Nadiadwala will make the film on a large scale.
P.S Komal Nahta should seriously STFU with the nonsense he’s come out recently.
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January 27, 2014 at 4:08 PM
140 will be tough IMO. It might just touch 110 crs with the usual drops. Tuesday is the key day. Monday looks to be around 9 crs but largely due to Single Screens. If they drop Tuesday will be around 7cr and then even 110 will be difficult.
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January 27, 2014 at 4:09 PM
I dont know about the look of Kick but the movie is a lousy movie in Tamil. If I was Salman I will fastrack the Barjatya movie…
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January 27, 2014 at 4:16 PM
I wouldn’t know about the original as I don’t watch Tamil/Telugu films. I’m geared up for Kick because Nadiadwala will put his money where his mouth is. Jai Ho looked cheap in production values something which Nadiadwala has never done in all the films he’s produced.
Plus he’s hired Chetan Bhaghat to work on the screenplay and Rajat Arora to pen the dialogues. Now it may all turn out poorly but the effort to bring in such people etc can be seen. The rajishri film is around 18 months away.
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January 27, 2014 at 4:23 PM
Lastly, I still can’t fathom how Jai Ho had such a low opening day. Salman with every film was opening bigger and bigger and 17 is totally not what I expected.
That 40 mark will be breached this year. I suspect 4 films have a chance as all these 4 films also open on a holiday.
Kick, Bang Bang, HNY and PK. If I were a betting man I’d say PK 😛
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January 27, 2014 at 4:57 PM
Hirani’s films generally don’t have the absolute biggest openings (on day 1) but it might be that the post-3I wave is strong enough to overcome this.
On the rest even the strongest stars can’t overcome everything. If people had liked Jai Ho enough a relatively weak day 1 wouldn’t have meant as much. Will say though that I’d be surprised if Salman were able to replicate his Dabangg through ETT phase going forward. At least on those initials. He’ll still get strong ones but the absolute biggest ones are questionable. Now what could change this is if he has a truly big hit at some point, not just an initial thing. Kick I suspect is not good enough as a film to do this (though I haven’t seen the Telugu original). Barjatya is a while away but also Salman has moved away from that paradigm. His masala avatar is light years removed from Barajtya’s world. He could still get a good success here but it’s not likely to be the sort of thing that excites a universal audience. Plus Barjatya himself is passé. The Salman key after Dabangg was always doing something half-decent (high proportion of tried and tested remakes and so on) and getting by on massive initials and a half-decent follow-through. The problem is that half-decent doesn’t last too long in the absence of proper hits along the way (which audiences really like). Still he’s generated enough steam to put up big numbers for a while. I would just be surprised if it’s anything like the phase he’s had before Jai Ho, either on initials or in absolute terms. Not that this is a knock on him. this late in the day one can’t do much better than him. And unlike SRK he was less project-dependent. So SRK can get big numbers with CE (with a Shetty who had more 100 crore films than anyone else) or in a Farah Khan circus but nothing else after OSO could get this done. I certainly don’t expect films like Fan or the other one he’s doing with Farhan Akhtar to be major in this sense. But he might be smart enough to combine modest success in those kinds of films with these large scale efforts and it’s not a bad plan at all. Ultimately a star can conquer everything but age. The options just start narrowing one way or the other. With Aamir it’s always about the project so it’s a different deal. And even he won’t be able to do at 50 what he was able to do at 40 or 45. There are limits to these things. Even the greatest superstars can’t conquer age.
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January 27, 2014 at 5:01 PM
^Christmas falls on a Thursday this year I think and if that is the opening day, All initial records are gone imo. Same goes for HNY and Bang Bang as both are releasing on a Thursday or Friday holiday.
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January 28, 2014 at 4:36 AM
140 from here would be a good showing. It looks much more like a 110-120 crore film now
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January 27, 2014 at 4:09 PM
would be very surprised if it got to 140 from this point.. Doubt it does more than 125 or so even in the best case scenario. Unless of course it has some core level of support at the lower level.
In any case you seem to be disagreeing with Salman!
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January 27, 2014 at 4:11 PM
Thankfully his brothers won’t have the opportunity to work with Salman for atleast another 5 years.
2013 – Jai Ho, Kick,
2014 – NEME, Prabhu Deva film and Kabir Khan film
2015 – Rajishri film and a film with YRF (Shimit Amin is rumoured).
All the above have been confirmed. Just hope his BIL Atul Agnihotri doesn’t throw a spanner in the works.
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January 27, 2014 at 4:12 PM
yeah is there anything either brother does that they don’t end up messing!
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January 27, 2014 at 5:00 PM
You’d think Salman Khan would’ve learned by now not to work in his brother’s films. I know he’s a big family man and what not but at the most Sohail/Arbaaz could produce Sallu’s movies, definitely not direct them.
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January 27, 2014 at 4:58 PM
Kick looks really good-good star cast, high budget and I’m expecting a couple of chartbusters from it. Also Nadiadwala has a good track record and Chetan Bhagat writing the script is a bonus. I heard Bhagat is also wrote the script for 2 States (in addition to writing the book), If that movie turns out well then at least on the script level, Kick should be decent. Sallu+Eid+Hit Music= Maxing out the opening day BO. Also this needing an established heroine thing is BS imo, what about Dabangg? OSO? RNBDJ? Ghajini? Granted that all those movies had actresses 1000x better than Daisy Shah but they were still newcomers.
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January 27, 2014 at 5:08 PM
Kick could certainly work (I mean in terms of trending, not just the initial). On the rest even Dabanng did not double its initial like Ghajini or OSO. So even with all those hugely iconic, cult moments it wasn’t able to do this. RNBDJ never opened that big. It trended very well though.
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January 27, 2014 at 5:23 PM
But what does that have to do with having an established actress? And RNBDJ had the highest 1st week at the time until Ghajini came along 2 weeks later…
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January 27, 2014 at 4:55 PM
Komal Nahta is hot headed and classeless. I’ve seen the language he uses to respond to tweets against him. I’d take TA over KM any day although both suck.
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January 27, 2014 at 9:13 PM
The package deal has to work….Sallu, Nadiadwala.Jackie.Chetan Bhagat.Good Music..that will be the KICK in KICK. Salman has to detach himself from his brothers, they bring him down…Arbaaz or Sohail are useless and don’t know a thing about direction. A Jai HO with PrabhuDeva or AR Murugodoss directing would have produced great results then Sohail Khan whose only acheivement is make sure he casts every tom dick and harry every existed around him and pull them bhai ke ahsaano tale..this movie is sheer stupidity on Salman’s part and he should now destroy records with KICK and Sooraj Barjatya movie as that has Deepika with him to lend support.
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January 28, 2014 at 9:22 AM
yeah but this is the best way sallu can make them 30-40 cr richer overnight………which brother would that that is a different matter……
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January 28, 2014 at 3:35 AM
Rajkumar Santoshi mulls remake of Khakee
http://www.tellychakkar.com//movie/movie-news/rajkumar-santoshi-mulls-remake-of-khakee-393
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January 28, 2014 at 2:15 PM
This is a great idea, good masala is such a rarity these days.
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January 28, 2014 at 3:39 AM
Hansal Mehta who has challenged the Censor Board through RTIs feels films attached to big corporate houses are being treated differently from films from independent directors.
Shahid’s belatedly-celebrated director Hansal Mehta has filed an RTI (Right To Information) requesting information in why Sanjay Leela Bhansali’s Goliyon Ki Raasleela Ram Leela was given a ‘UA’ certificate. The CBFC has replied, says Hansal, “I got a response from the Censor Board Of Film Certification (CBFC). They are supposed to send you a response to your RTI on exactly the 30th day. I am afraid the response is in very poor English. From what I understood the justification given in the letter is that there are other films with kissing and violence given a ‘UA’ certificate. But my dispute is not about the content of Ram Leela. It’s about why my film Shahid was given an ‘A’ certificate. The film’s message needed to reach itself to young boys. 13-14 year old boys get brainwashed into joining terror organizations. I had hoped they’d learn from Shahid’s experiences.”
Not willing to stop there Hansal has also filed an RTI asking to know why Shoojit Sircar’s Madras Café was granted a ‘UA’ certificate.
While Bhansali and Mehta don’t know one another well enough, the RTI does put a strain on the friendship between Mehta and Shoojit Sircar.
Taking time off from shooting his new film City Lights on a road in Byculla in Mumbai, Hansal took time off to explain, “I want to clarify that I’ve nothing against Sanjay Bhansali or Ram Leela. I liked Ram Leela. As for my other RTI, I loved Madras Café and Shoojit Sircar is an old friend. My objections to the seemingly arbitrary decisions of the CBFC. My battle is with the CBFC. It started with Ram Leela where there was violence kissing and double-meanings. I enjoyed Ram Leela. My problem is, why was a different yardstick used against my film?”
Shockingly Hansal imputes a communal slant to the censorship code. “People on Twitter have said there cannot be the same yardstick for a Muslim protagonist as a Hindu. There is a theory that Indians don’t want to watch films which feature Muslim protagonists. The Examining Committee of the CBFC asked me to remove Shivaji Maharaj’s name from the dialogues of Shahid when his name was not used in any derogatory or incriminating way. Unless I removed the name they refused to grant me a certificate although I explained the context of the reference. What is the whole point behind inviting a filmmaker to a screening while censoring? The idea is to let the filmmaker explain the context of a scene, shot or dialogue that seems controversial. But the censor board was not willing to listen to me. They had come there with their biases and communal prejudices. I refused to cut Shivaji’s name out. I went to the Revising Committee. The then CEO of the CBFC apologized to me. But then they said they’d give me an ‘A’ certificate because Shahid according to them, was very violent. Where was the violence in Shahid?”
Hence, Hansal’s next RTI against Shoojit Sircar’s Madras Café. “The violence in this film is shockingly graphic. I had to send my sons to another room while I was watching Madras Café. At the very beginning there’s a shot of a child being shot. I am not questioning Shoojit’s right to have that sequence. But if this kind of violence gets him an ‘UA’ certificate why not my Shahid?”
Then Hansal makes a slamming insinuation. “When I took Shahid to the CBFC, UTV had not acquired my film. I had gone to the censors on my own. I feel that’s the reason my film was treated so harshly. I feel when a film is co-produced by a corporate house the CBFC is lenient. Ram Leela and Madras Café had Eros and Vicom 18 behind it. But when I asked UTV to fight the censorial decision on Shahid they advised me against it.”
So is Hansal accusing the censor board of corruption?
Says Hansal, “I can’t say that because I’ve no proof. But there is definitely something wrong here. There is enough circumstantial evidence to suggest something seriously amiss. I know the law after shooting for Shahid. So I know what I’m doing. I am filing multiple RTIs against the CBFC. I am also putting an RTI for Grand Masti. I want to understand the criteria for censor certifications.”
Hansal says he wants transparency in the censorship. “I’ve asked the CBFC for the minutes of their meetings while censoring films. I’ve got the minutes for Ram Leela. They are very very sketchy. I hope to see some transparency in the matter of censorship. This is to exorcise my own demons. I don’t want to wallow in the assumption that something is gravely wrong in the way the CBFC treated Shahid. Very honestly I am not doing this for anyone else except me. I am not Arvind Kejriwal. If my battle helps other filmmakers I’d be happy.”
http://www.tellychakkar.com/movie/movie-news/hansal-mehta-takes-the-censor-board-360
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January 28, 2014 at 4:40 AM
4 Doomed Filmmakers Who Saw A Majestic Return In 2013.
http://www.koimoi.com/bollywood-news/4-doomed-filmmakers-who-saw-a-majestic-return-in-2013/
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January 28, 2014 at 8:30 AM
Reports have been reaching our ears that Martin Scorsese’s finance-sector-excess yarn The Wolf of Wall Street has been packing them in – to the extent that getting hold of a ticket in some cinemas seems almost as impossible as acquiring a Lemmon 714 quaalude. (When you’ve managed to see the film, that’ll make more sense.)
It certainly roared in to the No 1 spot on its first weekend in the UK, driving its Porsche across three parking spaces, falling semi-paralysed on to the street and obliterating the competition with some £4.6m. That’s actually the third biggest 18-certificate opening ever in the UK, after Hannibal and Bruno; and boy, is The Wolf of Wall Street 18-certificate. Drugs, sex, nudity and seemingly endless swearing. It’s a raucous Saturday-night event movie, the like of which we haven’t seen for years.
http://www.theguardian.com/film/shortcuts/2014/jan/27/wolf-of-wall-street-hard-ticket-leonardo-dicaprio-martin-scorsese
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January 28, 2014 at 8:34 AM
Salman Khan losing his Midas touch?
http://www.ndtv.com/video/player/news/salman-khan-losing-his-midas-touch/307036?hp
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January 28, 2014 at 9:11 AM
First half of the movie is very mediocre and at places confusing due to bad direction / poor editing The chalta hai attitude is evident all over the movie with left over cast and general bhaigiri in filmmaking. Nadira Babbar cannot even say a line properly. Salman has acted well and ended the movie well otherwise this was heading into disaster zone.
But overall the movie is no better and not much worse than the previous ones we have seen with exception of Wanted. The difference here is just the release timing otherwise this too would sail to 140-150 cr easily. But he is too exposed on tv lately which should be minimized as people are getting used to watch him for free.
Salman needs a Rajshri and a hum aapke haain kaun kind of deal to keep up with competition because masala is done deal now. That’s his only shot at these big box office numbers. Rest all will remain under 200.
Lately on tv appearances he seems to have lost a lot of weight and looking in best shape. He definitely has 3 / 4 years at the top at the minimum. Incidentally he has the same notion on festivities and no money for poor box-office numbers which I was talking earlier
Maybe because of the festive week or my fans don’t have the money to go to the theater
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January 28, 2014 at 2:10 PM
‘But he is too exposed on tv lately which should be minimized as people are getting used to watch him for free.’
LOL. Most ridiculous fanatic filth i ever read.
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January 28, 2014 at 3:19 PM
‘Fanatic filth’ really?? I am don’t much follow your comments, so don’t know where you are coming from with such strong words…
Raghav, if you have access to Indian TV channels then you will notice leaving aside the movie promotions bit which is excessive anyway for all (D3 being a conscious exception), Salman has been on tv non stop for last 3 / 4 months either due do big boss show and its fair share of controversies, fighting, patching and hugging srk , kwk quotes , doing a lot of stage shows for awards and then with a constant segment on him by these trp hogging news channel nearly each day.
Where is the novelty of watching your hero on big screen?
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January 28, 2014 at 3:25 PM
We are constantly cribbing why are so many big starrer bad movies ending up as huge grossers lately? Most of these are event movies and during festivities one way or the other most turn up to watch them and it’s also become a family thing and budgeted in accordingly.
I can’t think of any movie except 3- Idiots which was a decent watch in last 5 years.
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January 28, 2014 at 4:35 PM
Raghav that comment is uncalled for..
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January 28, 2014 at 5:26 PM
Saw your bias, and don’t see such wrong in this comment. And u come up warning.
Bye from this Site.
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January 28, 2014 at 5:59 PM
It’s unfortunate you feel this way.. there was no reason to use a term like ‘fanatic filth’ to describe someone’s comment..
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January 28, 2014 at 5:31 PM
I may have overdone it in this comment but there was nothing wrong. What MSDhoni wrote here ‘People are getting to see Bhai on TV for Free’
LOL if this is the standard here, it gives a sense of Bollywood is prostitution.
Bye.
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January 28, 2014 at 6:00 PM
“I may have overdone it in this comment but there was nothing wrong”
Aren’t you contradicting yourself?! Anyway you and I are in agreement on the first half of that sentence. You don’t need to go anywhere, you have been putting up useful stuff otherwise. But it’s upto you.
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January 28, 2014 at 10:36 AM
Salman notions on my fans dont have money is stupid. He fails to understand the basics of over exposure, over promotion and on top of that bad movie. Ek tha Tiger worked really well because it was not promoted on the same lines as Jai Ho..hopefully he will learn and his next movie has a 200 cr on it.
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January 28, 2014 at 12:50 PM
I consider myself extremely lucky to have seen Om Dar-Ba-Dar in the theatre last week. And it’s true that after more than 2 decades since it was made, Kamal Swaroop’s film is as ‘experimental’ as Indian cinema gets- Kashyap’s and Q’s (Kaushik Mukherjee) films are not half as radical as this one. But the reason why I loved it so much was behind all the visual gimmickry etc, this is a film which really invents a new way of ‘spinning a yarn’. it really unearths that one art which has died in Indian cinema (and pop-culture)- that of story-telling. And behind all the metaphors, this thankfully is a ‘children’s tale’ (but of course, not only for children). Everyone should see this film ASAP IMO.
Also checked out Q’s Tasher Desh. I hadn’t cared for Q’s earlier Gandu at all- found it nothing more than an exercise in shocking the audience. But to my surprise, this is a far more matured work. Tagore’s work (the titular play) is completely reinvented here- I kept peeling off one allegorical layer after another in the film. And the visuals itself are the price of the ticket.
Ari Folman’s “The Congress” is a masterpiece and one of the summits of animation filmmaking is concerned. And dare I say it’s as good as Waltz With Bashir. The live-action and animation hybrid really works because the film itself is half dream-half nightmare. And it really takes one deep inside the hell-holes of ‘movie business’. And yes, it really bends the sci-fi genre almost to a fault.
I am almost kicking myself that I didn’t see ‘Summer Wars’ earlier. I think this is not just one of the Anime films I have ever seen, but in my view it’s easily one of the best sci-fi films from the last 10-15 years. Atleast the one which makes you contemplate the most (alongwith Gattaca and Upstream Colour). This might just become one of my all time favourite films
Also loved both All is Lost and Mud. So apart from a great sci-fi film (Gravity) and a landmark film on a sort of taboo topic (12 Years…), what is truly heartening is that Hollywood has produced 2 films in ‘American’ genres which were clearly dying as of late- Survival films (All is Lost) and adventure films (Mud).
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January 28, 2014 at 8:45 PM
still apprehensive about tasher desh had short note on gandu:
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January 28, 2014 at 1:34 PM
Jai ho for sense of humour and wisecracks.
Arnab’s interview with RG where the latter tried his best to irritate everyone with his woman empowerment rhetoric.
Vishal Dadlani’s tweet.
Faking News making merry.
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January 28, 2014 at 3:04 PM
SAurabh: ‘after more than 2 decades since it was made, Kamal Swaroop’s film is as ‘experimental’ as Indian cinema gets- Kashyap’s and Q’s (Kaushik Mukherjee) films are not half as radical as this one. : Totally agree. I too caught it in the theater and I was seeing it on big screen for the first time. What a gorgeous film it turned out to be. AK Bir and Nakul Kamte have done a fabulous restoration job. And much as I admire Kashyap this is a work in a much higher league. And one can also see how much Kashyap has borowed from Swarup, right from the brass band wedding song in Dev D to all the English-Hindi word play in songs to names like Atlas. A true classic if ever there was one in Hindi cinema.
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January 28, 2014 at 4:44 PM
Just looking at the trailer of Om Dar Badar..it gives me a clear idea of where Anurag Kashyap is copying stuff from.
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January 28, 2014 at 6:32 PM
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January 28, 2014 at 5:21 PM
25% Fall in Varanasi and 15% fall in Kanpur.
Girish Johar @girishjohar 4h
KANPUR (JAI HO) Tuesday Multiplexes-336043 Single Screen-239889.50 TOTAL-575932.50 5days Total-5231446.50
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Varanasi Tues #JaiHo MPX 309457 S S 81988 TOTAL 391445 GTOTAL 3916696
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Varanasi MONDAY. #JaiHo MPX 374074 SS 141463 TOTAL 515547 4DAYS TOTAL 3525251
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January 28, 2014 at 5:22 PM
For GF
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January 28, 2014 at 7:41 PM
This gave me goosebumps.
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January 28, 2014 at 8:13 PM
ya nothing changed after 50 years and glad to see her facilitated by narendra modi who lata ji famously said wished to be pm of india
original tribute to nationalism
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January 29, 2014 at 6:14 AM
Hey, not sure who is singing that but it’s def not Lata. Here is her pristine original:
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January 29, 2014 at 6:59 AM
Nowadays there are so many fakes and so many clones that it is difficult to find the original.
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January 29, 2014 at 7:06 AM
That’s so true – whenever one searches a song on YouTube so many ‘versions’ turn up, when in fact is only the original that one wants.
Lata’s rendition is of course unparalleled.
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January 29, 2014 at 1:00 PM
thanks its priceless
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January 28, 2014 at 11:36 PM
A source said, “Sooraj is very keen to have Deepika on board and so is Salman, but the former wants Deepika to assign 120 days for the film’s shoot from June onwards and it doesn’t look like she will be able to pull it off as she will be shooting for Imtiaz’s film from July to December.”
Construction of the film’s set has already begun at ND studio, adds a source close to the production house. “Nitin Desai is the film’s art director and shooting for the film will begin in May. About 60 to 70 per cent of the film will be shot in the studio,” says the source.
To add to this, buzz has it that Ritesh Sidhwani and Farhan Akhtar want to sign Deepika Padukone for a film under their banner. “Shooting for the film will begin in December and Deepika should be able to sign on the dotted line.
Aamir Khan has been approached for the same and though he has not yet signed the film, he is likely to give his nod to the project. The film will be directed by Nitya Mehra, who has earlier assisted Farhan and the plot will centre around time travel.”
– See more at: http://www.mid-day.com/articles/deepika-padukone-doesnt-have-dates-for-salman-khan/15056020#sthash.SjNtZ1uV.dpuf
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January 29, 2014 at 6:19 AM
poor girl! with such wonderful offers – really hard to choose – i think filmmakers shd adjust within themselves if they all want deepika – sooraj’s film she must do and so aamir’s film also..
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January 29, 2014 at 6:56 AM
I think for Sooraj’s film they can take Shraddha kapoor who is a natural actress.Aamir can also try Shraddha Kapoor, Prachi Desai and the like for a change. Katrina successfully challenged deepika’s reign with her act in dhoom 3 and there is Sonakshi Sinha who can spring a surprise if there is a good script. Deepika is somewhat like Ash and she needs special projects to showcase her.
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January 29, 2014 at 12:55 PM
sooraj + salman can easily shatter D3’s record mind it – this is no less lethal combo than the best and DP’s goodluck can ride them safely to a HAKHK kinda deal –
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January 29, 2014 at 12:28 AM
Haider by Vishal Bharadwaj will be interesting with a starcast like Irrfan, Shahid Kapoor, Tabu and Shraddha. Hope it hits the bulls eye.
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January 29, 2014 at 6:24 AM
Jai Ho Tuesday Business
Wednesday 29 January 2014 10.30 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
Jai Ho had a noticeable drop on Tuesday as it grossed around 7.25 crore nett taking the five day total to a little over 74 crore nett. The first week will finish around 85 crore nett as the next two days should add around 11 crore nett with a 15% drop on each day.
The second weekend is very important for it to put up a good to decent final total. A 150 crore nett total is out of the question however the film is in a better position than the first two days where the film looked heading towards a little over 100 crore.
There is just film One By Two releasing this week and that will not be much competition so that Friday total and Saturday growth will tell where the second week is going. At the moment the film is trending towards a similar total like Ready but a big Saturday and Sunday this week can take it higher than Ready which grossed 120 crore nett approx.
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January 29, 2014 at 7:03 AM
20% drop on Tuesday.
So lifetime is heading towards 120cr.
Only positive thing is they didn’t manipulate like Roshans.
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January 29, 2014 at 7:13 AM
What is the actual figure for Kkrish 3? If it is around 240 crores, still it is a major hit and blockbuster. Jai Ho crossing 120 is also good as it has mixed reports and not a great initial to start with. Superstars still rule.
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January 29, 2014 at 12:29 PM
Jai Ho needs around 220 crores to be declared a hit. The cost for distributors was around 100 crores. This is a tank of epic proportions…there is no two ways about it
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January 29, 2014 at 1:23 PM
Actual is 187cr (177 hindi+10 regional)
and gross collection is 245 cr which Roshans reported as Net.
There was another desparate attempt to project Krrish 3 as first 500cr grosser.
http://www.bollywoodhungama.com/news/2227539/
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January 29, 2014 at 8:01 AM
Even with a 100 crore gross, Salman and co. will make a killing out of Jai Ho. Fast forwarded through it last night, and it looks like Salman just hired friends and family, from Daisy Shah (was an extra in one of his movies) to Aditya Panscholi (whose son he is launching despite the Jia Khan affair). As a film, it’s probably (no, certainly) the worst thing I have ever seen. Watched the whole things in 11 minutes.
Anyway, Salman is definitely using the “Pay It Forward” logic to his advantage 🙂
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January 29, 2014 at 8:04 AM
The supporting cast also included never-beens like Ashmit Patel, some dude from Hum Saath Saath Hain, and a bunch of others you probably haven’t seen in the last 15 years. Tabu and Danny were the only actor in the whole movie.
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January 29, 2014 at 8:16 AM
“Deepika is somewhat like Ash and she needs special projects to showcase her.” No. Ash never had 4 big hits in a single year. and Deepika can shine in any project today, special or not so special. she can make a Ram-Leela or a Race 2 work.
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January 29, 2014 at 8:45 AM
The last year had been hers. What about the previous years?
During those times, she was one of them.
I think luck smiled on her and she is the right person at the right time. She has good co stars like ranbir, srk and ranveer.
Yes, she is one surprise packet. Her rise is coincided with the fall of Priyanka Chopra and Kareena Kapoor who are her rivals while Katrina still is competition in some genres. Anushka is not hot anymore and Sonakshi is stuck up. while Asin has lost completely. Both Salman and Deepika are surprise hits.
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January 29, 2014 at 11:05 AM
what is the cost of Jai Ho..somehow the Khan brothers have made humongous profits on it but i doubt the distributors did the same.
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January 29, 2014 at 11:06 AM
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Amod Mehra @MehraAmod 47m
The distributors have paid 95cr + P&A for the theatrical rights of #Jai Ho.. So it will have to do 240cr Nett worldwide to just break even..
Is this true?
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January 29, 2014 at 11:37 AM
Dsitributors stand to lose here inspite of an okayish performance at the BO. Becasue they pay such huge ubrealistic prices.
If Jai Ho makes 120 crores, is not a flop in my books. But of course, if I try telling that to a distributor who paid huge prices, he wont look at me in a friendly manner:-)
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January 29, 2014 at 11:40 AM
Again, it is a friendly reminder that we get too carried away by one or two extraordinary BO performances and think there is an endless amount of money to be made at the BO. Felt similarly dursing the 300 and 350 crore talk around D3 time. Getting past 250 is going to be an enormous task for even HNY and PK.
It aint that simple or that easy,dummy!
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January 29, 2014 at 12:04 PM
I’d disagree somewhat here. It’s not easy for sure but when you look at the kinds of films that don’t make it is it any surprise that they don’t? No matter how massive the initial you still need a fairly good film to have some sort of decent trending. But it’s true otherwise that given the average quality of the big Bollywood production you can spike things enough to get a big initial but then run out of steam quickly. Alternatively a good film that doesn’t have the mind-blowing initial would need very strong trending on just a ‘good’ initial to get to that stratosphere of 250+ or more. So I guess what I’m saying is that you are right but this reflects the current state of Bollywood production decisions (and so forth) more than anything else. Also a certain corollary holds. While it is hard for films to cross 250 (even with 150+ week 1 numbers) it is equally hard for the same films not to cross a 100 unless they’re utter and total disasters. How often does that happen? If 150+ is possible in week 1 for a number of big films then we can’t possibly celebrate the same ones for crossing a 100. Looked at another way it’s creditable that Barfi or BMB did a 100. But Salman in his best box office phase doing 20-25 more than this (assuming best case scenario) is some kind of failure. I think the problem is that we still tend to treat these 100, 200 bars as absolute ones applicable for all films. Even when we don’t mean to this is the narrative that surrounds us. And so unconsciously at the very least it has an effect. Now on Jai Ho if it can get to 130 or more it would at least indicate some support at the lower end. It could certainly be that it remains stable at its current level. But this isn’t the kind of low bar a star in Salman’s position can be celebrated for reaching.
More generally I’ve always felt these bars meant something only if one took trending into account. otherwise just depending on the initial a film will cross 250 or 200 or whatever given enough time. But these benchmarks are meaningful only if there has been some trending along the way.
I’d finally add that there is some jadedness setting in with all these ‘big bang’ films. OSO trended pretty well in 2007, doubled the initial and a bit more. But I doubt the same OSO could double its initial today if it opened to a 150 or so in week 1 or even a bit less than this. And so Farah Khan ought to be careful with HNY! other than Ghajini and 3I no big film has doubled its initial. Not even Dabangg!
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January 29, 2014 at 12:44 PM
I think in relative terms 200 cores for a Bollywood film is like 400 million domestic total for a Hollywood film and 250 and 300 crores are like 600 and 800 million. Plenty of successful films but some milestones are very diffcult to impossible even for the most liked films. No matter how they get there.
Even the sanest amongst us fall into this trap that based on X , a total of Y is possible. But, there is a limit that inches forward somewhat slowly. It took a long while to pass Ghajini and then,3I tho there was candidate every week that was supposed to do it
Same will hold for D3.
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January 29, 2014 at 12:38 PM
The 100 crore plus myth seems to create false ideas about hits. If the cost is epic, then 100 crores or even 200 crores wont show the real picture. It is like scoring 10 out of 30 than 10 out of 10. The 100 crores shows only starpower pulling crowds rather than real profit.
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January 29, 2014 at 2:31 PM
I feel like Eros has lost money on every single movie they’ve distributed these past few years-Jai Ho, Ram Leela (Heard that the cost was 85 crores), R..Rajkumar, Lootera etc.
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January 29, 2014 at 3:20 PM
Its wrong notion to think a lot of money is being lost in film indsutry , unless there are absolute duds like Yuvraaj, TMK or Kites etc. If that were the case Shahid Kapoor with his huge number of flops would never be getting any movies by now.
The reason stars are charging so much money and budget has increased to such high level suddenly is due to a lot of new avenues to get the investment back and filmmakers / stars know this. Theatrical revenue is just part of the overall picture and there is money flowing in through satellite rights, overseas huge market, music, DVD sales etc. Due to tremendous ad revenues and reruns on satellite cable, movies have become a very lucrative business. on tv
There may be few end losers in the chain on few projects, but some of the big names in the industry now make sure this does not happen and price adjustments are made towards the end so no one comes out with a big loss, though not making money on such product is considered a loss too.
SRK, Aamir and Salman have been distributors darling not for any reason but fairplay when they make sure no one in the chain loses money. Jai Ho may have been sold for a high price but if you see the movie I doubt the budget there is excessive and most of the movie shot on sets/indoors. Now how Sohail Khan does the end adjustment in pricing is what will make him creditable in the market next time around.
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January 29, 2014 at 4:10 PM
It’s not that simple. Hollywood with far more revenue streams offered the same sort of logic in the 90s after a number of big budget films either went bust or under-performed. This had an effect in the industry for many years. for a long time in the following decade a lot of big movies were co-produced by two big studios. But once again things have gone out of whack. Spielberg and Lukas said last year that the current Hollywood model was unsustainable unless ticket prices were really jacked up on the big films. There was a report on the Avengers about how this film needed to do 400 in the US just to break even after accounting for international figures. The film did 620 but most other such films in Hollywood don’t gross like this. If this is the case in Hollywood what do you think is going on in Bollywood?! First off all these numbers that are thrown around aren’t verified or verifiable. secondly when you have totals thrown out it’s hard for people to understand how the ‘food chain’ works at each one of its nodes. So yes if Sohail Khan makes a table profit of however many crores he has to pay back some of his distributors who either lost money or didn’t make much unless he never wants a film financed again! Salman is pretty good at this sort of thing anyway. But when he does this he’s also cutting into his profit margin or whatever his table profit was. Most big films with big stars aren’t really all that profitable. Unless they do surprisingly good business or they’re made at a relatively low cost. Usually the money is made on smaller or medium-scaled productions that surprise in a big way. With the big ones all you get is some kind of ‘plus’ deal. That’s why everyone’s going crazy for these initials. They assure some sort of safety assuming the film doesn’t tank after this but the idea that most of these films are blockbusters or whatever is fiction of the poorest kind. But industries sustain things this way for years. Also a lot of directors are weeded out at different points. one doesn’t often notice this. The smart ones like Rohit Shetty never get into expensive productions. And the ones that do are out of a job even with decent returns sometimes if a certain profitability margin isn’t met. As for why things aren’t different structural problems years or decades in the making aren’t undone all of a sudden. As for Shahid Kapoor or whoever you can’t just make films with the top 3-5 stars! What industry works like this? But Bollywood has gone smaller in some ways. The masala remakes are usually not very expensive. Many major stars also do smaller films. The Ra One or K3 kind of super-production is relatively rare. the HNY kind of film is the much more quintessential deal where you get a circus going, maybe you spend a lot of money on one or two videos, the rest is all about marketing. in Hollywood too the latter costs are huge, sometimes the major part but there is still enough money spent on the ‘art’ or the SFX or what have you. In Bombay a lot of money is spent but one isn’t sure what they actually do with it! And again these numbers are just thrown around without any sense of how a film industry economy works. Ultimately the movie business always has a certain built-in irrationality to it. A lot of the pain is often deferred. There are major stars who underperform in one film and are then paying back with their next two! It’s very complicated in official and unofficial ways but the point is that few films that are called hits in the media are so in any reasonable sense of the term. 99% of what one gets from the media or the trade in this sense is pure fiction. They’ve become simply an advertising arm of the industry.
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January 29, 2014 at 4:52 PM
A note on HNY- the budget will probably be around 100 crores. I don’t understand how CE could cost 70 crores to make when the entire thing was made in south India, didn’t have vfx or a Malang type song and SRK didn’t take his salary. If CE is 70 crores then HNY has to be about 100 imo. Actually all of SRK movies are high budget movies, and especially his last 4-5. Comparatively, besides D3 for Aamir and ETT for Salman, all their other movies have medium budgets.
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January 29, 2014 at 5:41 PM
honestly i dont buy these theories of budget being 100 cr and all that – it is all PR hype. Except for cases like D3 – the budget generally are around 20-30 cr and SRK’s fees might be another 20-30 – plus mktg 10-15 –
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January 29, 2014 at 3:31 PM
shahid has deleivered kaminey and jab we met and very recenly r rajkumar a sucess
http://www.financialexpress.com/news/cci-to-act-against-bollywood-star-aamir-khan-8-others-for-defaulting-on-penalty/1182839
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January 29, 2014 at 3:38 PM
btw talk is on large corporate houses or small distributors or exhibitors who loses money in chain
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January 30, 2014 at 6:32 AM
Jai Ho Drops Further On Wednesday
Thursday 30 January 2014 15.00 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
Jai Ho dropped further on Wednesday with collections around 5.25-5.50 crore nett. The collections on Monday were decent but it has seen rapid falls over the next two days and is now sure to collect less than 85 crore nett in its first week.
Its not a good sign for the second week as with these falls on Tuesday and Wednesday, a second week total of 30 crore nett or near that looks impossible. A 30 crore nett second week would have given the film a good final total.
The only plus for the film is lack of competition this week but even that can only help so much with collections dropping at this rate. The collections at single screens are also not holding up that well.
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January 30, 2014 at 6:54 AM
They are dropping by 2crore per day, a really bad sign. First week being 83-87 crore depending on source, is a sign now that the film is stubbling to 100 crore rather than cantering past it. The second week now will struggle to go past 20 crore.
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January 30, 2014 at 7:52 AM
salman needed a reality-check and i am glad it came now. Anyways he has given enough BB stuff in masala genre and needs to change the scripts now
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January 30, 2014 at 9:31 AM
Q. Is Aamir Khan the real superstar now as he is the only one to take a big opening without backing of a holiday with Dhoom 3?
Ans. Dhoom 3 may not have a had a holiday but the film had around 125 crore spend on the just the production side of the film as compared to the 45 crore production spend on Jai Ho. When ticket rates are so high the audience will only come in numbers if they feel they are getting their tickets worth. Salman Khan is still the biggest star but his films have to be grander like Ek Tha Tiger rather than Jai Ho types if the record numbers are to come in.
J. Kumar
http://boxofficeindia.com/Details/art_detail/isaamirkhantherealsuperstarnowasheistheonlyonetotakeabigopeningwithoutbackingofaholidaywithdhoom3
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January 30, 2014 at 9:38 AM
Ridiculous observation.
All the Khans need a reasonably good script, direction and supporting cast to see them through.
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January 30, 2014 at 5:43 PM
The production quality argument is stupid- what great production quality did CE? Or even any other Salman movie besides Ett?
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January 30, 2014 at 9:39 AM
Can anyone explain what kind of ridiculous logic is this ? Aamir did with Dhoom 3 so he doesnt get any credit so wait for salman to do it in a more grand looking film ? so now production values and cost of the film will decide who is the biggest star Seriously ?
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January 30, 2014 at 9:47 AM
In that case, the biggest star should be Rmraan Hashmi.
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January 30, 2014 at 9:58 AM
I have a 6 character answer to this. Usually its two fingers with BOI.
RA.ONE
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January 30, 2014 at 10:21 AM
I have no doubt that if someone says that the cost/production/marketing DOES impact a film. I have no doubts.
I do however have doubts when BOI write it up. It is disingenuous the way they put it.
Fact. D3 did open biggest on non-holiday or holiday. The opening has put laid to rest the notion that holiday is be all and end all of film business. D3 opened on a record without a holiday – if anyone can name the last film to do this and when it will be interesting to know!
I would be much more inclined to find genuine thoughts from BOI if they simply said that Jai Ho has not accumulated the same level of interest as ETT did or Bodyguard. The audience does not have an equal level of interest in each Salman movie or Aamir movie. Interest levels differ based on that star in questions current stature, the film arriving in question, the buzz surrounding the film and many other things namely the recent track record of the star – not to mention music, co-stars, subject. The problem is BOI has never peddled this type of thought. It is used here as an afterthought. In fact most of their answers “content” – there standard response is if the content is good the film will work…which is fine. But they don’t mention content for Jai Ho. They mention production and cost as a scapegoat.
There are many examples of low cost films that do splendid business.
Also when MP, RDB, Fanaa, Ghajini, 3 Idiots broke records they WERE NOT the costliest or best produced films!
The whole statement has so many contradictions.
Basically Jai Ho (without seeing it) is a film that is not connecting well with its target audience. Call a spade a spade. Meanwhile the producers pocket a massive profit. Maybe if they sold it at a reasonable price and marketed at the level the budget warranted, it would be deemed a fair success!
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January 30, 2014 at 10:37 AM
The whole model of selling to distributors is flawed.
There should be a genuine attempt to fix a ratio between cost/marketing of a film and the maximum price a distributor should pay. They can judge whether the film in question deserves the maximum or they want to go lower. The “sellers” here cannot be proud of themselves. They don’t need to make “this” level of profits. They’ll never be trusted, all credibility is lost.
It should be a chain where everyone has a reasonable chance of making money. The vast majority of films should make some level of profit with some making more than expected. In the current model though it seems distributors make loads on a few films and lose a fair bit on many. It’s like a betting shop. But it comes back to the number of genuine hit films the industry produces. I’d wager that % is not more than 10% for the last 20 years. 90% of films are genuine flops for distributors I’d bet. And I’d bet most of them would not have been if they paid a much more reasonable price.
To be fair though, if your dumb enough to pay it, you deserve it!
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January 30, 2014 at 12:03 PM
One of the overlooked things which probably is not significant, is some neutral fans turning against Salman for biased hosting during Bigg Boss 7. There were multiple facebook pages and tweets with #unfairSalman hashtag. On the show he came out as arrogant and doesn’t care if you don’t agree with him. Salman fans are of course going to love him irrespective of what he does.
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January 30, 2014 at 12:10 PM
I doubt Salman has many neutral fans
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January 30, 2014 at 12:14 PM
neutral fans -> Fans of other stars but amiable to Salman or fence sitters.
ps – A movie is made hit by fence sitters. Fans (to support) and enemy fans (to find loopholes or tell the climax) always go and watch movie.
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January 30, 2014 at 12:23 PM
munna – you just qualified yourself as a neutral fan by including fence sitters!
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January 30, 2014 at 12:25 PM
Added as PS in last comment.
“A movie is made hit by fence sitters. Fans (to support) and enemy fans (to find loopholes or tell the climax) always go and watch movie.”
ps – Rocky will kill me but for most part I don’t care about current Hindi movies. I think most of them are junk. I watch them because of cultural affinity. If the same movie is made in other language, I wouldn’t think about watching (This argument should go in Rangan’s crossroad thread). So in last year, I liked Madras Café and Shahid and to some degree Ranjhanna, Fukrey, Ghanchakkar.
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January 30, 2014 at 12:35 PM
This would be the case for most cultural things. And I doubt many would disagree with your position.
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January 30, 2014 at 3:07 PM
One cannot blame Bigboss, Modi or Akhilesh for Jai Ho’s performance.
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January 30, 2014 at 10:13 AM
Production values are just a part of the equation. And even then, how long can good prod values sustain a film? D3 was hardly universally accepted, yet went strong for 2 full weeks. It just couldn’t be on the strength of prod values. Starpower also counts.
YRF’s experiment with the 3Khans (+Katrina) reveals the extent of this starpower threadbare:
ETT: 185cr
JTHJ: 135cr
D3: 280cr
Also, note, without any holiday, D3 had the least favorable opening 3days, yet had the strongest opening of all 3 movies.
Enough said!
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January 30, 2014 at 12:00 PM
LOL, this is funny, what do you say about YRF:
aamir + kajol in Fanaa
SRK + Kajol in DDLJ
JTHJ was a horrible over long lover story movie going up against masalaa trend of SOS.
CE did about 50 crore less than D3 despite if being much smaller budget movie than D3, despite facing competition from big to semi big film week after week…
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January 30, 2014 at 10:06 AM
P.K Talli – this fact came straight even from the horse’s mouth. Please revisit Salman section on KWK with Aamir. Definitely n yrf merging/ tie up with a big star cast attract more eye balls in anticipation of grandeur. This was witnessed lately when all 3 Khans hooked for a project each with them. It was unfortunate yrf had a date clash with SOS and JTHJ could not reach realize its blockbuster opening potential.
It’s a lot of ingredients put together but most important these days is the release timing. Some times anticipation of a better moving coming shortly too holds the audience from going to theatre.
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January 30, 2014 at 10:12 AM
Jai ho is not a grand looking film yet it was sold for grand prices why ? unforunately distributors too didnt realize that and now they are the ones who r going to make losses while salman and sohail made record breaking profits as reported by BOI . i guess thats the only reason sohail wanted to direct this .
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January 30, 2014 at 10:15 AM
This is where Aamir’s honesty counts. Talaash was not sold for ridiculous prices, thus ensuring that everyone made money on the deal.
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January 30, 2014 at 10:17 AM
RA1 – srk outdid himself with tasteless jokes and vulgarity. I mean he went to the extent of holding kareena’s boobs for no rhyme or reason…..wth was he thinking. The movie became a joke due to all this and poor south Indian jokes and backlash was evident instantly.
Now this could have been prevented by a strong director but Anubhav Sinha had no credentials to reign in srk there and he went berserk hamming.
That is why CDI remains his last best performance and reason was simply Shimit’s no nonsense attitude and sticking to script.
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January 30, 2014 at 10:21 AM
we really dont have to talk about what Aamir says about Salman but if u must then i suggest u should also check what salman had said about Aamir but i really dont care what both of them say about each other so lets not get into this i was talking the lame excuses BOI that they are coming up with in defense of Salman and jai ho
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January 30, 2014 at 11:12 AM
In a nutshell srk stardom in 90s was completely driven by these big production houses and attachment to big names. He fell off the charts in recent times due to his stupidities and recklessness. How can you refuse a Robot and 3 Idiots and do Ra1 and Rab ne. On second thoughts , may be he is too much of a businessman to be an actor now.
Aamir was and still does bank on sheer exclusivity and being smart in not crossing his limits with the projects he does. He would simply fail if went along the routine path and thankfully his early flops made him wiser. This hatke is his usp and what made him.
I am not saying Salman is more talented, but he has been real superstar and has done projects left, right and centre and with one and all and with all sorts of cast and mind you with no insecurities whatsoever. He was easily able to maintain his standing in top 3 all the time for last 25 years and with bigger names attached, he gave effortless blockbusters.
Even with Jai Ho, when the end credits started to roll and he came on with his Jai Ho title track in rock star mode all was forgiven… at least from my side. There was freshness there unlike the third class show of bhaigiri throughout the movie. Hope he recovers with Kick which is an Eid release and there will be a section of crowd loaded with money.
No offensive comments please and I am in no mood to rebuttal and simply putting my pov…
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January 30, 2014 at 11:58 AM
Some excellent points all around.
To answer MSD, yes- Salman has raw star wattage and that has carried him through uneven filmography.
Aamir per se does not have the same crazy following but he has created a broad appeal by being smart and doing the right kind of films. SRK has a following which is loyal but is dwindling.
SRK’s success has largely been based on serial movies as a lot of his movies were like a serial to the previous one. CDI showed that there ARE more possibilities for him but he lacks both conviction and credibility when it comes to hatke films.
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January 30, 2014 at 12:46 PM
Agree to most points.
Aamir has been the smartest while deciding which direction his career would move in. SRK has always considered himself to be the king & i guess that was the reason for his downfall. Having said that he still in my opinion is the only actor who has the widest acceptance across the globe. Give a movie with a good script that suits him & is universal , he can still get a huge initial.
Salman has been a entirely unique case, he has given hits without really thinking about it. But i still feel that of the three Salman is the least gifted actor. But without doubt he has the highest fan following.
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January 30, 2014 at 1:09 PM
I agree somewhat with MSD…that Salman has done weird low grade production crew films and still managed to come out …something like Bandhan…or Tere Naam or stuff..so the movies have either recovered, semi hit to even hit. Now what he did was align himself with likes of YRF and his own brothers and the masala bandwagon..that got him going big time. Effortlessness of success is surely with him.
For SRK, he was great in aligning himself with cream like YR and KJo and catering to Urban and Overseas audiences strengthening the market for himself. There was a the time 5-6 years back he was the number one overseas star. But lot has changed..the cream like YR and Kjo have themselves branched out into the multiple productions and they have to compete with likes of UTV, Viacom etc and the multiplex boom..what has happened is more and more content needs to be generated and the dependency has a select few superstars have gone down and hence you saw Hrithik, Ranbir, Akshay all showing some footing.
Aamir has strategically placed himself to be a brand that people like and await. He doesn’t have that Salman superstar aura or SRK’s charm for romance to be a conventional hero. But imagine despite being short, weird ears..he has lead himself to records and landmark films in all genres.
Overall, the fact remains that today only a packaged deal will work..a b grade production will be TOLERATED by the fan of the superstar but won’t go beyond a semi hit or recovery movie. The Star plus production values but support cast and execution…and its relative percentage makes a movie a blockbuster.
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January 30, 2014 at 2:21 PM
Aamir is not god to predict that his planned movies will be blockbusters or superhits. He just wanted them to do well and make some profit for all. He is always insecure before the release of a movie because he works hard, very hard and coordinates. Salman had a string of flops too and nobody wants to talk about it. He is now in a phase where his films are performing well and Salman shrewdly has started to give the type of movies his fans love. Only in Jai Ho he slipped a bit but his fans did not let him down. Aamir has very few fans that too nitpicking ones, but his films are rare and always gives something different and fresh. Even in Dhoom 3, the film lost its essence just to accommodate Aamir and the only thing that reminded of Dhoom franchise was Abhishek and Uday along with chases. Inspite of not having sufficient fans, how aamir’s films work like magic most of the time? Some quality plus entertainment.is assured.
Having said this, I prefer a Talaash more than a Dhoom 3, a flawed Fanaa more than ghajini, RDB over 3 Idiots.
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January 30, 2014 at 2:28 PM
M S Dhoni thinks that aamir plans in such a way that his films become superhits or hits. A film’s performance is most unpredictable and aamir can plan a good film but he cannot make that film perform. It is the audience who has the power to make or break a film. As Lord Krishna says in Geeta to do one’s duty sincerely without expecting results. Blockbusters, I mean, in this context.
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January 30, 2014 at 6:46 PM
If Fanaa released in today’s times minus any narmada-controversy which aamir stupidly dragged himself in – it would race away to 200 cr!
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January 30, 2014 at 10:28 PM
@ Idea Unique –Bilkul sahi bola.
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January 30, 2014 at 4:14 PM
@Sanjana thats right. But one has to admit that Aamir has increased his fan following immensely since 2000s. He might be behind in sheer numbers but he does have a good hold now on an universal basis.
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January 30, 2014 at 5:38 PM
Agreed that his fan base has increased a ton since 2000 but somehow I still get a feelin that his fan base isn’t as dedicated and hard core as SRK or Salman. Which is why even during SRK’s “dull phase” he still delivered 3 100 crore movies and 200 crore worldwide grossers and Jai Ho will still make around 120. It’s almost as if SRK and Salman fans go to see their stars movie mostly to see their favorite actor while Aamir’s fans go to see his movie expecting to see a good movie. If Aamir delivered 3-4 crap movies in a row like SRK (Ra.1, Don 2, Jthj, CE), his fan base would diminish singnificantly
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January 30, 2014 at 5:45 PM
Forget films, not getting a chance to check out scenes or songs
B4 I lose myself totally to the hectic activity—
The strains of this fell on my ears today (unknowingly)
And forced me to pause …
Time stands still while i pause
And admire rahmans mastery over music
The way he negotiates some of the high notes as a singer and composer here is a delight to hear…
Dhoop paani pe baras jaaye..
Yeh.. saaye banaaye, mitaaye
Main kahoon, aur tu aa jaaye, behlaaye
Har doori sharmaaye
Tu saath hai, ho din raat hai
Parchhaaiyan batlaaye
Mahi ve …
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January 30, 2014 at 6:13 PM
Daniel Day Lewis made Hollywood history when he became the first man ever to bag the Best Actor gong three times.
To many, that qualifies him for the tenuous title of Greatest Actor in History. But he could also be the maddest. Here are 11 best examples.
Read more at http://www.tasteofcinema.com/2013/11-crazy-ways-daniel-day-lewis-prepared-for-roles/#CE0yoZImFE8kTfGx.99
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January 30, 2014 at 7:24 PM
Now a film on Md. Azahar’s life. Nice interview:
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/hindi/bollywood/news-interviews/I-was-beaten-because-of-Mr-Bachchan-Mohammed-Azharuddin/articleshow/29605836.cms
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January 30, 2014 at 7:28 PM
Salman fans in plexes have certainly not showed up for jai ho and this isnt the first time it has happened during wanted it was pretty much a similar story the difference being Wanted did very well in single screens while jai ho is not holding up all that well even there u should also check the failures salman had before wanted when he was even struggling to get a decent initial some of his films were wash outs i dont remember this happening with Aamir in atleast last 10-12 years yes some of his films started slow like TZP but that had more to do with the kind of film it was than anything else otherwise it did very well in the long run heck Aamir fans have even showed up for his productions . ETT was the only time Salman got an extraordinary opening all across the board yes i know dabangg , ready and bodyguard all did very well but ETT surprised one and all with the kind of initial it got but even with all the grand look that BOI is talking about today it still couldnt go past 3 idiots that too after 3 years . All this is not to put down salman have no intention to do so as i believe salman is a big star just dont agree with the some of the things u said . One last thing this is salman’s best phase and if u think jai ho getting to 120 cr is some sort of achievement then there is nothing left to say wouldnt bring Dhoom 3 into this as that would be more embrassing .
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January 30, 2014 at 9:55 PM
If one reads his tweets, one understands his bias. When did he become defence lawyer of Salman Khan? And who asked him to become one? Even Salman himself is not saying anything.
With that mindset, how can he give credit to aamir khan? He has to find some lame, stupid argument like costs to discredit aamir’s success in terms of boxoffice. Dhoom franchise is a dumb franchise like Race franchise and giving the franchise more credit is ridiculous. Even a Rohit Shetty’s franchise is much better in terms of fun elelment.
And why Hrithik does not find a place here? Inspite of a kiddish movie like Kkrish 3, Hrithik’s presence made it into a blockbuster.
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January 31, 2014 at 12:52 AM
Raj5: “If Aamir delivered 3-4 crap movies in a row like SRK (Ra.1, Don 2, Jthj, CE), his fan base would diminish singnificantly.” Yes. But aamir wont deliver 3-4 crap movies. That is his star appeal. Aaamir’s star appeal is based on the fact that he gives good movies. That does not mean that it is not star appeal, In fact by all verfiable criteria , his star appeal in the last and this decade is stronger than SRK or Salman.
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January 31, 2014 at 1:38 AM
True but his star appeal is not greater than SRK’s and definitely not greater than Salman. The craze for Aamir Khan is not the same as the craze for SRK/Salman.
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January 31, 2014 at 7:28 AM
This is the contradiction. AK’s star appeal is not as great but his films create a craze. Certain things cant be explained. Maybe fence sitters decide things. Reviewers are rather harsh on his films while Salman’s films are treated less judgmentally. Even for Dhoom 3, the reviews were almost negative and WOM was also quite negative. Inspite of that, the film did pretty well.
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January 31, 2014 at 3:10 AM
any seth macfarland fans here? i loved ‘Ted’ and like some seasons of Family Guy. i think he clearly has been inspired by Mel Brooks.
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January 31, 2014 at 7:36 AM
Sanjana; “WOM was also quite negative.” I can assure you that was not the case at all. People ;loved it. many saw it twice. Otherwise it can not do 280 crores and 25 million USD. And Aamir has a solid fan base. In fact there are many who don’t see mainstream Hindi films, except when it ids an Aamir film. That explains the extra numbers you get for films like 3I or D3. Of course Aamir fans are not like Salman or SRK fans who make so much noise on the Net. They keep quite and turn up when there is an Aamir film.
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January 31, 2014 at 7:45 AM
There is some truth in your argument.
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