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I’ve opened up a new thread. I am going to say this once again. the problem isn’t with political discussions but beating the same point to death. The political stuff shouldn’t drown out everything else. Similarly a 100 responses are not needed for every comment one doesn’t agree with. those who are primarily interested in political discussion might find their interests better served elsewhere.
My primary interest in this matter is indeed served better elsewhere. In fact I heaved a sigh of relief when I found out the thread was closed.
I find myself in a fix here. I prefer not to discuss with opposing party supporters, (which is always BJP, because congress seems to have no supporters online, and there are so many of BJP on AAP pages, blog, fb etc) because they get very personal and abusive.
On the other hand I feel disloyal if one sided stories come up, and I don’t post the other side.
So I’ve decided not to comment on people’s views and opinion. Only when some information is wrongly portrayed, I’ll feel compelled to write it as it is.
OG, sometimes the problem is that on the other side you might have someone who will refuse to stop till he or she has the last word. And/or will keep going as long as necessary. if an argument is not about persuasion and debate even in the minimal sense and simply about each side repeating the same things over and over again it’s perhaps time to move on, either in terms of that subject or with a certain interlocutor. You should certainly participate in political discussions if these interest you. But in some cases ‘setting the record straight’ though it might be a reasonable objective will not get you very far if it hasn’t the first 68 times! Again the point I’m trying to make is you can keep discussing AAP or whatever interests you without necessarily falling in such a trap.
I actually used to debate folks quite vigorously myself at points. Not all the time but when I got into a discussion often I would have a lot to say. Eventually I realized I had said everything I needed to on a topic. If people still kept saying the same stuff again and again I certainly could better use my time elsewhere. Now I never thought that everyone should accept my side of things. I am never into this sort of ‘conversion’ program. However any ‘debate’ to be even minimally possible must have two sides willing to agree on some basic facts. Even this was often not to be had. So one then has two choices. Either to keep saying the same stuff again and again or else withdraw. every now and then I leave a comment on political issues but for the most part I find it a thankless exercise.
On AAP though I would accept they’ve made mistakes, created problems for themselves and certainly once you resign in politics it’s very hard to get a ‘win’ in any sense (barring some extraordinarily iconic figures who used resignations strategically).. all of this I can agree with but I still find most of the criticism to be rather cynical. Put differently the supporters of both Congress and the BJP should bury their heads in shame if they’re going to live by the same standards! But here there is the Aamir Khan analogy. This is precisely how many have attacked him for years, specially the SRK supporters. So when he wasn’t getting the biggest grossers he was attacked for being a fake and pretending to be serious when he couldn’t get the biggest hits. When he got the biggest hits the very same folks called him a sellout who confirmed just how fake he was. So he couldn’t win no matter what he was doing. The convenient logic was that since Aamir had set himself up to a higher standard he should be judged by that. This is true upto a point whether it’s about Aamir or AAP. However this hardly absolves everyone else from any sense of responsibility whatsoever! So the supporters of the other stars and/or political parties don’t get a free pass just because they’re more unscrupulous! Something analogous happens with the whole discussion on riots/pogroms. Mutually exclusive logical positions:
1)The Right didn’t do anything
2)Even if it did the Left did it first
The problem is that each position here implies a very different ethical standard and/or logic. So the Left is all evil only till the point when the Left can be blamed for starting things first in which case it suddenly becomes the standard. So it’s not just politicians but equally defenders of political parties and movie stars who use the most cynical arguments to justify their positions. And then in turn refuse to budge and inch from their positions and keep quoting articles and opinion-pieces that simply confirm their views. It happens everywhere in life when ideological battle-lines are sharply drawn. It could be AAP or it could be Aamir, the same tactics come into play.
Please Dont bring That pseudo intellect Aamir in discussion inspite of my unconditional support to him for his relatively better films. He is another third grade dramebaaz who take benefit from emotions of people without bringing any construction solution whether it is about his pseudo tear jerker Satyamev jayate or His long protest in Narmada dam project.
Can Media and so called intellectual society or anyone from bollywood dare to ask him What happened to His protest ? What was the purpose of his protest or who was behind it, was he playing cheap gimmick for publicity for Fanna or playing in hands of congress or his biased stand against Modi in post godhra riots provoked him? Where is his concern for those villagers ? Did he do anything for them later on ?
Now, Same project is biggest boon and life source of millions in Gujarat, Thanks to Narmada Dam and Solar energy plant over Narmada Dam turns out to be 180% efficient, also providing 24 electricity in villages of Gujarat which helped exponential growth in Agriculture development rate. And of course, it created thousands of jobs.
Not just that, it resolved flood situation in gujarat.
It was just friction of BJP’s 2 plan prepared in 2003.
1) First plan was to connect all rivers of Country, control them with dams to avoid flood situation and drought situation in various parts balancing it out. And it helps generate power source.
2) Quarter Express Highway project to Connect Metro cities via. express highway.
Can Anyone ask Aamir why he wasted his time and fought for wrong cause of no consequence , or he did something to rehabilitate those people.
Cheap Aamir, cheap Kejriwal and their followers.
As for Lokpal Bill drama in Delhi assembly,
1) Why Kejriwal didn’t give time other assembly members to go through lokpal bill. Didnt he already declared a week back he was going to resign ? While he gave copy of bill just 12 hours back to other assembly members. He already started drama without sending copy.
2) Delhi already had got Lokpal bill introduced by centeral govt on 16th Dec. Lokpal bill is introduced by Central Govt, and Lokayukta by State Govt. Delhi also has lokayukta bill. Lokayukta bill was required to be modified for betterment. Instead, he used Lokpal bill as excuse. It was introduced by Central Govt , so he cant introduce Lokpal for state level defying Center Govt’s bill without Central govt approval.
There were two ways to do it as per constitution-
By taking advise of judicial matter advisory which AAP took from Soli Sorabji as per AAP’s statement. And either challenge Centre’s Lopal Bill it in court for modifying it for Delhi or send his own Bill to Lt. Governor to get it passed .
AAP said Soli Sorabji advised unconstitutional route them to pass it without following of these ways which is unconstitutional.
But, As per Soli Sorabji never said so, here is AAP exposed-
thenhttp://www.timesnow.tv/Exclusive-Sorabjee-backs-Lt-Governor/videoshow/4448169.cms
Why BJP should let it pass unconstitutionally ? They have never done so and congress tried to do so once in 2002 (When BJP was in Central Govt and was in opposition in Delhi Assembly) but BJP forced them in Delhi assembly to take legal course in constitutional manner.
Why should BJP reject constitution for AAP’s decision ? It is total anarchy. If they allow to AAP, That means every state will override central government laws. Every state will become separatist which is very dangerous and no different from what happens in Kashmir.
Everyone knows AAP never respects constitution but BJP will condemn it and will never allow that.
Problem is people don’t know these technicalities and AAP is misleading them by rhetoric. If Kejriwal’s intention were in right place he could have done without central govt’s approval, without Lt. Governor’s approval and without challenging anyone in Court.
Kejriwal sent bill to assembly members only 12 hours before. Before presenting to anybody, He started talking about resignation.
Dr. Harsh Vardhan @drharshvardhan Feb 9
Arvind Kejriwal ji U have made such a hue and cry about Jan Lokpal everywhere but have not sent a copy to members of assembly .Stop DRAMA.
Kejriwal thinks only he is selected by people ? What about rest 40+ members in assembly ? They are chosen by same public, why doesnt he want consensus with assembly members and then pass to Lt Governor for approval or take legal course.
Kejriwal’s intentions were clear already as Barkha Dutt also said she knew a week back that he wanted to quit.
Hw wanted to campaign for loksabha elections and misled people by telling so many lies. Common People don’t know so much technicalities and he misled them by rhetoric.
This was just the introduction of the bill. At this stage a bill need not even be sent, just read on the floor, though in this case they received it at least 12 hours before the session.
The passing takes place days later. That is when the members get plenty of time to read it, and discuss and argue over it.
The opposition weaved a whole story about it being unconstitutional, whereas for ‘introducing’ a BIll things are not so narrow.
The trick was to stop the Bill at the door and not let it be introduced because later if after discussion they voted against, they would look bad.
Everyone knows that you can interpret laws to suit yourself (they are full of loopholes.
If they were clear such confusions wouldn’t occur.
Everyone interpreted the law as they wanted to including AAP.
And of course the whole might of the opposition came down with all its power to show it as something wrong.
To me the whole thing looks like someone knocked and stood at the door for entrance to be allowed in to say something, and was not heard leave alone even enter.
AAP has always said the Lokpal Bill in the centre is not the one that the movement had drafted, and this was a much much stronger Bill. Even Anna Hazare is now saying that it was a pity the Bill could not be introduced and supports Kejriwal’s resignation.
If a Bill overrides a bill already brought by Center, No bill can’t brought/introduced in Assembly in unconstitutional way. It is unconstitutional. Don’t just play with words.
And how come Soli Sorabji criticized AAP later for playing politics later ? Kejriwal misinformed people on his advise too.
‘ a 100 responses are not needed for every comment one doesn’t agree with’
This is what Satyam said , so i will stop responding to your baseless fact-less arguments.
NEW DELHI: Former attorney general Soli Sorabjee has clarified that the legal opinion he had tendered to the Arvind Kejriwal government was purely on a procedural rule and not on the Jan Lokpal Bill.
In Sorabjee’s opinion, Rule 55(1) of the Transaction of Business Rules is unconstitutional as there is no statutory bar on introducing a Bill in the assembly without the prior consent of the Centre. But then, as long as the Supreme Court does not strike down the rule, lieutenant governor Najib Jung is bound by it.
The most that the Kejriwal government could have done with his opinion was to challenge the legality of the rule cited by the Centre for coming in the way of the Jan Lokpal Bill, Sorabjee told the media. Since it could not have taken the place of a judicial verdict, Sorabjee said his legal opinion could not override the rule that applied to Jung.
The most that the Kejriwal government could have done with his opinion was to challenge the legality of the rule cited by the Centre for coming in the way of the Jan Lokpal Bill, Sorabjee told the media. Since it could not have taken the place of a judicial verdict, Sorabjee said his legal opinion could not override the rule that applied to Jung.
The cartoonist is ill informed because he doesn’t even know that Kejriwal never wears shoes. He always wears chappals or sandals (with socks) in winter. He even went to Rashtrapati Bhavan in sandals. Here’s a picture clearly showing his footwear.
So not only is the cartoonist ill informed about the subject’s physical appearance but I can say also on his political stand.
My comment is to rebutt the cartoon that you have put up. The previous one was very funny, but this one is prejudiced.
The trp greedy/sensationalist media is giving it all kinds of twists. The support would have anyway been over after the elections.
-Did he leave because he wants to be free for LS elections – as if one has to do that and not fight while still in govt (like Modi)
Even Foreign media doesnt care about India’s constitution, if every state will override Central Govt’s Bill. Then, every state can become independent which is situation like Jammu & Kashmir. Only Anto nationals want that happen.
There was so many ways to do it constitutionally by taking judiciary procedures demanding in court or sending the bill to Lt Governor.
Actually, Kejriwal compromised with Lt Governor and agreed with him to save his minister Somnath Bharti. But, for lokpal bill, he says Governor is congress man. If Najeeb jung is congress man, he can take other option of petition in court.
Also, Soni Sori a suspected Maoist just released from jail a week back is declred AAP candidate in Dantewada seat for parliament elections of Chattisgarh. Dont they have better candidate? It is big risk to vote for AAP. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soni_Sori read about her. What AAP shout about…no criminals in politics ? Huh
Following a Gujarat High Court order in December, the government has ordered all of domestically available compressed natural gas (CNG) for city gas projects to be equitably distributed among all the companies in the country. Prior to this, cheaper domestic gas was largely available to firms retailing CNG in Delhi and Mumbai.
Indraprastha Gas Limited (IGL), which is the sole retailer of CNG in the national capital, hiked the CNG price on Dec 26 by Rs.4.50 per kg, saying the rate increase was forced by court orders that led to cut in allocation of cheaper domestic natural gas.
The Delhi government in its submissions told the court that any reduction in allocation of CNG to the city would adversely impact prices of essential commodities as well as discourage the use of the clean fuel CNG.
It argued that hike in CNG price is against the Supreme Court’s ruling, which had issued direction to convert the fleets of buses to CNG.
The Gujarat High Court Dec 25 last year ordered cutting the allocation of gas supply and IGL implemented the changes in rates the next day.
In its petition, the transport association said: “Supply/allocation would have a substantial impact upon the petitioner, as such reduction would mean that IGL would have to make shortfall from imported natural gas at a much higher price. The same would also be contrary to the Supreme Court order.”
“Supply of domestic gas to IGL would be reduced from 2.344 MMSCMD to 2.228 MMSCMD, which amounts to almost a 5 percent reduction and translates to a reduction of supply of 1,16,000 standard cubic meters per day,” the petition added.
The court, meanwhile, also refused to suspend the IGL’s decision to hike the CNG price.
The city counsel told the court that the Supreme Court had asked the central government to give priority to transport sector, including private vehicles, all over India with regard to the allocation of CNG.
“This means that first the transport sector in Delhi, and in the other air polluted cities of India, CNG will be allocated and made available and it is only thereafter if any CNG is available, that the same can be allocated to the industries, preference being shown to public sector undertaking and power projects,” argued city government’s counsel.
“After use of CNG by the vehicles running in Delhi, there is considerable reduction in the pollution level into the pollution level figures of 1996,” counsel added.
The Delhi government also supported the arguments of petitioner and said: “It is a hard fact that there would be an increase in the CNG prices as well as a result of the reduction of allocation of domestic gas in accordance with guidelines of Nov 14, 2013, issued by ministry, and an adverse economic impact on the commercial vehicles operators who got converted their vehicles to CNG by investing additional money on it.”
It added that any reduction in allocation of CNG to Delhi would not only increase price of CNG alone but would have further impact on rising of prices of essential commodities as well as “discourage the use of CNG”.
Kejriwal also filed petition duplicating same by gujarat govt.
But, difference is Kejriwal will not follow investigation, as he resigned just one day after foiling FIR. Gujarat govt will do. Talk about self promotion and rhetoric… and Kejriwal.
“On AAP though I would accept they’ve made mistakes, created problems for themselves and certainly once you resign in politics it’s very hard to get a ‘win’ in any sense (barring some extraordinarily iconic figures who used resignations strategically).. all of this I can agree with but I still find most of the criticism to be rather cynical. Put differently the supporters of both Congress and the BJP should bury their heads in shame if they’re going to live by the same standards! ”
There is also a tactical limitation that AAP faces, that other parties don’t: a Congress or a BJP can make alliances with the devil himself, and people will be somewhat forgiving, as no-one thought they were saints anyway. But AAP has put itself in a bind with Kejriwal saying things like (e.g. in his interview over the weekend with Barkha Dutt) that all the other parties are corrupt. All. While true, this does mean that AAP will find it difficult to credibly partner with anyone in the Lok Sabha, which could push them towards noisy irrelevance; or even expose them to attempts by other parties to depress voters by making the claim that a vote for AAP is a protest vote, without much practical significance.
On the plus side, Kejriwal is a canny fellow, and has clearly tapped into the desire for “plainspoken” politicians; the Congress seems just about done, so I suspect any votes AAP garners in urban India will likely come at the BJP’s expense (which of course explains the stridency of BJP attacks on AAP of late). I don’t think his ride is over yet, but like Satyam, I do believe that the resignation is a big blow: in politics you are either in power or out of it.
AAP has always maintained that it will survive as long as people are motivated by its aims of removing corruption and the behaviour of elected leaders acting as Gods.
Resignation was to let people decide whether they want to send them back with a proper mandate rather than the precarious and silly ‘outside support’.
If people feel AAP failed, then so be it. Just to gain the chair/power by all means was never their aim.
They wil definitely not make a noisy opposition as you claim, Qalandar.
The dignity with which they sat throughout the session while the other two were creating such disorder and bedlam makes one hope that this will be their behaviour if they form an opposition.
BJP was hands in glove with congress and so didn’t make a good opposition party which I hope.
Anyway, the first list of 20 names have been announced and are really interesting. It also includes Soni Sori the tribal activist, Ashutosh against Kapil Sibal and other candidates against other
biggies.
jung’s letter is online and the nepotism of speakers action was live only actually reality is government was allready in minority 1 week back with 2 members who withdrawal of support (just 34 of coalition)
if there was votye of no motion it would have fallen anyway…a safe exit route one say
Mira Sanyal was an independent candidate – not congress. She stood against biggies, Congress Petroleum Minister Murli Deora’s son Milind and Shiv Sena’s Mohan Rawale.
Malika Sarabhai and Gopinath are not mentioned in this list. They are not AAP’s candidates. They are just famous AAP members.
Soni Sori and family were framed by congress to show they were doing something about the maoists. She has been treated badly as a tribal woman and I hope she wins and becomes the first tribal woman in LS (I think, I don’t know), and that stupid police officer Garg who got a ‘bravery’ medal should be made to feel small. Whether she loses or wins this will restore her dignity.
While Indians fight with each other, China and Pakistan maybe feeling happy. There is this Arunachal Pradesh issue and for Pakistan the Kashmir issue.
Congress maybe corrupt but now Supreme Court and vigilant political outfits are keeping a close watch on its every move and that may make them cautious. Somehow Congress will make another coalition this time too.
Modi maybe good for the rich and the middleclasses, but what about the poorest of poor?
Kejriwal must become alone crusader because some of his followers are bringing a very bad name. He cannot have the cake and eat it too. That is he cannot practice pure honesty and raise a political party too as the followers may turn out to be wolves in sheeps’ clothes.
I think once corruption is removed, and people realise that standing for elections and getting elected means work, accountability – and NOT make crores then there will not be so many fights.
Congress is not in a happy state at all.
Today at CII, speech and Q/A sessions by AK was so brilliant that all that Chai/Coffee/Soda/Ganja charcha looks so farzi in front of this. AK has so clarity on economical and industrial issues.
yeh toh Hawa mein charcha hai sit jee !!…..
jhoot par jhoot par jhoot!!
al the anti BJP wale bade parshaan hain, becharey sharam key maarey Congress ko support toh kar nahee saktey,
BJP ko support kiya toh kuch khatrey mein pad jaayega, issliye Iss Drama Queen ko hee aagey badhao !!
All rhetoric, not even a single thing he said made sense.
So many big things he said, but that doesn’t reflect in his work or his approach. He is just power hungry opportunist.
All congress supporters are riding on AK these days. This is definitely Congress plan to bring him back in campaigning as All surveys are predicting NDA 220+ seats. First they tied to stop BJP in delhi, now trying same in Loksabha.
AAP will easily tie with Congress or for third front with Samajwadi Party after elections. Kamal farooqui , SP actually came to meet AK personally after he was appointed CM.
SP of Mulayam singh provided Kejriwal z-security as long as he stayed at his Ghaziabad residence.
other blackout in indian media which happened this week :
Judge denies Sonia’s plea for dismissal of case
February 13, 2014
Special Correspondent
Judge denies Sonia’s plea for dismissal of case
NEW YORK : A US judge in New York has But Judge Brian denied Indian Congress President Sonia Gandhi’s request to strike down a Sikh advocacy group’s motion for the continuation of its human rights violation case against her, according to the organization’s press release.
The February 11 motion of Sonia Gandhi pleaded that since the Sikhs For Justice have added new allegations of rights violation against her, and askedthe Court dismiss it.
But Judge Brian Cogan denied the request“, saying, “If there is something wrong with plaintiff’s opposition, that’s what defendant’s reply is for”. The Sikh group accuses Ms. Gandhi for “shielding and protecting” the leaders of her party who were allegedly involved in the anti-Sikh riots in India in 1984.
Gandhi’s New York-based counsel Ravi Batra said,
“It is sad that SFJ has filed an ill-advised and misguided memo of law that violates basic legal rules that apply to every litigant. It will compel us to ask Judge Brian M Cogan for appropriate relief.”
However, justifying the hearing, SFJ legal advisor Gurpatwant Singh Pannun argued that pursuant to US court orders on September 09, 2013, plaintiffs served the summons and the complaint on the hospital and security staff at Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center in New York where Sonia Gandhi was believed to have been undergoing medical treatment.
According to section 29B of Representation of People’s Act, every political party may accept any amount of contribution voluntarily offered to it by any person or company other than a Government company provided that no political party shall be eligible to accept any contribution from any foreign source defined under clause (e) of section 2 of the Foreign Contribution (Regulation) Act, 1976. The present PIL is on
Before, the JNU types commies had complete monopoly and control over the media and thus over the narrative .
With the social media as well as some sane people like Swapan, Kanchan, Media Crooks guy, Tavleen Singh, Sucheta Dalal, Abhijeet Majumdaar, and so many more the spin has been totally blown away.
inn commies ko badee mirchi lagee hui hai kee yeh kya ho gaya , samajh nahee aa raha innko kee kya Karen !!!
P.S.-Bullet Raja had a brilliant scene where Sonakhshi’s brother says- I am a communist outside my house, not inside !! LOL!!
Swaraj, who had once said that she will tonsure her head if Sonia Gandhi becomes Prime Minister, said she was a graceful leader.
As she spoke for the last time in the 15th Lok Sabha, which was adjourned sine die on Friday, Swaraj showered praise on BJP patriarch LK Advani who was seen with moist eyes.
Swaraj, who was at her witty best, drew applause from members as she mentioned that parliamentary affairs minister Kamal Nath tried “shararat (mischief)” ways, while Sushilkumar Shinde displayed “sharafat (decency)”.
Besides, she said UPA chairperson Sonia Gandhi’s gracefulness and the Prime Minister Manmohan Singh’s gentleness helped in conduct of the 15th Lok Sabha.
For certain members here-
Last week, I met a German writer who is studying the Indian general election. During the course of an enjoyable conversation, he expressed his deep unease at the casual way in which his liberal friends in India bandied expressions such as “fascism” and “Holocaust”. Hitler, he explained to me, was one of the most extraordinary aberrations in human history. It was extremely unlikely that such a phenomenon would recur, and certainly not in the 21st century. http://www.swapan55.com/2014/02/intellectual-elite-fears-modi-surge.html
The problem with calling Hitler an ‘extreme aberration’ is that any level of violence in the same vein that does not rise to that level can automatically be dismissed as not serious enough. The Hitler label then becomes not a mode of vigilance but a way to enable ‘anything’! So it’s exactly the opposite of what Swapan Dasgupta claims. Of course with a little more understanding of history and a lot more understanding of philosophy he’d understand that the name Hitler is precisely important as a cautionary note. There have been all sorts of fascists in the history of the last century who were not Hitler in terms of what they did but who belonged to that same vein of political thought. The effects they unleashed were not acceptable just because they weren’t Hitler. The point of raising this name is precisely not to render Hitler as some way-out-there phenomenon from Mars! It is because that model is entirely replicable and has been replicated to varying degrees (only moral lepers wait for the numbers to reach 6m to find the analogy acceptable.. otherwise one need only count as far as 1!) since Hitler (and actually before Hitler too) that it is instructive to use it. This doesn’t mean one has to subscribe to the political use of ‘Hitler’ to serve various victimhood agendas. Nor does it mean one has to be blind to the same kinds of totalitarian violence when it occurs on the left (though it comes from different ideological corners the killing of millions is unacceptable when it’s Hitler who does it or Stalin.. but this shouldn’t prevent one from exploring the roots of each response.. there was a time when there were lots of left-leaning extremists in the world, we are now living through a phase when the right dominates in this sense.. the reasons for this would take long to explore and would constitute a different sort of discussion).
Ironically in every such case where there were fascists propagating their new order (where of course the pretense always was that they were simply restoring the old!) they were all quite appalled when compared with Hitler in any sense. The Hitler signature has been made so sui generis that even if there were another leader exactly as bad as Hitler in every respect he too wouldn’t accept the comparison!
Then there are the ‘crocodile tears’ in all these instances. The current Indian example is no exception. So it’s either that Modi didn’t do anything or if he did go get the Congress folks of ’84 first! So the Right also employs this move where it often pretends to be more liberal than the left (‘hey we’re only going to Afghanistan to save those little girls from getting their noses cut off’! It’s true that this can often be the result but that is not ‘why’ they really go). So here the bleeding hearts on the Right are so upset about the ’84 anti-Sikh violence (note by the way how the ‘Hindu’ is never evoked here.. who was doing the killing when it came to this minority? It’s only the neutral-sounding Congress) but forgot to bring it up until Modi was put on the stand (in a manner of speaking). Plus the ethical framework shifts completely when those two claims are made. If I find out a friend is a rapist I can hardly ‘defend’ him by saying ‘get last month’s rapist first’! And if one thinks that those on the left are being unfair to Modi why cannot one at least agree completely with Satyam who has been saying for years that whether it’s anti-Sikh violence or anti-Muslim violence or anti-Hindu violence all are equally unacceptable? Not just this, I have also said many times that I cannot condone retaliatory violence of any kind either (not an idealistic claim by the way..it’s the law in most countries I am aware of including India). It’s not enough to say ‘Satyam is fair, I have no problem when he says it’. I am not looking to create a club here, the debate is about whether what is being said is fair or not. Don’t give me a pass when it comes to this stuff, tell me whether you agree with the claim or not. If the latter why is it that the ’84 anti-Sikh violence is objectively true and that there’s no doubt about this whereas with 2002 even the most dispassionate reports from the most dispassionate researchers are never enough because somehow they have nothing better to do in life than plan hatchet jobs on Modi?!
One sixth of the Indian population is tribal. It shocks many people to learn about this number. It’s roughly 150-200m people. In the languages of many tribes of central, eastern and northern Indian the word for Hindu is ‘diku’ which means ‘outsider’. For them these ‘adivasis’ or original inhabitants of India the Hindu is the outsider who came and took away everything. This ‘diku’ is ‘villain no. 1’ (if you’ll allow the Dhawanism) in their books. Once upon a time many on the right would have happily agreed being wedded to their Aryan mythology. However the strain that has prevailed insists (for obvious reasons) on a completely home-grown genealogy. The tribals disagree. of course the Dravidians too claim that they were here at least before the ‘Aryan outsiders’ but that’s another chapter of this debate.
What’s the point here? That politics is often built on potent fictions but some fictions are ‘truer’ than others. The entire edifice of the Right in India is built on quicksand in every way imaginable (which does not mean it cannot be successful!). The question then is whether one retreats further into the mythology and increasingly finds oneself in an absurd positions where one is treating every bit of factual argument as implausible or if one is able to come up with a more responsible right-oriented discourse that doesn’t depend on such fantasy. History is always inconvenient for partisans on any side of any debate. It does not favor anyone. The problem lies in the ‘partisanship’. if you are invested in notions of religious or ethnic or national purity of any kind (not to mention gender..) history will defeat you. provided you have the courage to face up to it. The partisan always seeks ‘one’ version of events when there is always enough to complicate this picture.
If one knows a South Indian language enough, certainly the major ones, one quickly discovers who deeply soaked each is in Sanskrit in terms of vocabulary and sometimes in other ways. It’s just a fact of life. One might not like the Aryan/Vedic colonization if one is into Dravidian nationalism, one might create a register of language less reliant on the Sanskrit but ultimately this history cannot be evaded. The same is true for those who don’t like British rule. To be Indian is to be minimally indebted to a British genealogy (we’re all writing here in English for a reason!). There is then the curious case of the Indian right-winger who is often invested in the most anti-Muslim political positions while being equally invested in the art and popular culture that is directly dependent on the same history! If one took a survey of BJP leaders one would run into Urdu-poetry enthusiasts far more easily than Hindi-poetry ones! Why is there this contradiction? Because one does not realize what has gone into one’s DNA before one was formed! In Tagore’s great novel Gora, the eponymous character is the right-winger of his age but a Desai-like twist reveals he is actually British. There are complicated historical currents that go into the lives of any community (national or otherwise) which in turn feed more individual identities. Political fictions are often dangerous because these often depend on a certain ‘forgetting’ or ignorance of the same.
Ultimately the debate isn’t about Modi or whatever the left says. It’s about what one chooses to believe. the same happens on the other side. But we can’t only use this other side as a shield to avoid the consequences of our own views. I find the portrayal of Maoist violence in the Indian media to be completely misleading, irresponsible and de-contextualized. At the same time I also find the specific incidents of that violence to be atrocious and nauseating. I could say something similar about the LTTE (and this is in fact the tension explored in Ratnam’s film). One can hold on to both views. This does not prevent anyone from having one’s ideological sympathies or what have you. The question simply is: does the sympathy become so important that one is willing to sacrifice anything to preserve its (imagined) ‘purity’?
Your long comment was extremely logical. I enjoyed reading it. Emotions and self interest cloud reason and logic. But one cannot shut out sunlight forever.
comment should me more serious rather than 1000 words of ridiculous repeated content which is hollow
should made it more simpler in layman language:
hitler was knosn fascist who said my way is correct like
1) i am secular and he is communal bla bla
2) those who are not with me are corrupt…the regular discourse in politics which is not from right
on 84 and right again plain ignorance it all started with bhinderwala to contain rivals in punjab ….simply those who are ruling now and brought it to normalcy and ya truth is always stranger than fiction and it was
“when big tree falls earth shake”
for all these verbose chanakya said
“A person should not be too honest. Straight trees are cut first and honest people are screwed first.” and “A man is great by deeds, not by birth.”
maoists breeds on protection money and violence to and for so called biaseness of media what does friendly ngo do for them simply another propaganda
folks who can’t write seriously with content even words don’t save them
Re.-There is then the curious case of the Indian right-winger who is often invested in the most anti-Muslim political positions while being equally invested in the art and popular culture that is directly dependent on the same history! I
That is not true Satyam, most right wingers are not anti- Muslims, they are anti Appeasement and anti anti- nationals.
Bhut bada Farq hai !!
The problem is that a certain discourse that is structurally anti-minority (which is different from people being anti-minority at a personal level..) tends to mask it in the rhetoric of appeasement and so on. The latter itself is as old as the hills or if I might be allowed this example once more as old as Hitler! What I mean is that in every such situation the minority is always supposedly threatening the majority and the latter is only ‘defending’ itself. In every such example you could just substitute the names and the everything else would hold in exactly the same way. This has been my point repeatedly. You could take example after example and you’d simply have to fill in the blanks differently. The formula would be the same. The RSS youth exercises are modeled on those of the SS! People here might be appalled by the Hitler analogies. The RSS certainly isn’t! The entire Hindutva discourse borrows wholesale the lexicon on Western fascism. If you ask me the ‘Hindu’ today needs to be defended more than ever before from the ‘Hindutva takeover’. Sadly a lot of the damage has already been done but I’d say that from the Vedas to the Mahabharata and then down the ages into the contemporary present one of the urgent tasks in India is to rescue the normative Hindu (this was ‘the’ debate in Dev.. the normative Hindu in Bachchan vs the Hindutva type in Om Puri) from the violence of Hindutva. If there is a majority that’s forced to become silent here it’s precisely this kind of Hindu caught between a rock and a hard place. He or she can’t be Hindu in the old ways because this invites the charge of being right-wing and part of the Hindutva brigade. Being ‘secular’ would however be another forced choice. The point is that there is a certain tradition of Hindu religiosity, even bourgeois religiosity, that is not at all about this kind of militant Hindutva politics. Such people get it from both sides because from the secular left to the militant right they are considered questionable by each side. In India today the hardest thing in this sense is to be a Hindu who is not about Hindutva! Much as in different contexts the same might be true for Muslims and Christians and so on. Even within India this happens when you get the Mullah brigade going after more normative Muslims at various levels.
To get back to the initial point I’ve often heard this refrain ‘hey I’m not anti-Muslim (or anti-Hindu or anti-black or whatever), some of my close friends are Muslims (or Hindus or Blacks…). The problem is that this proves the opposite of what the speaker thinks he or she claims. This establishes the essential bias or structural antipathy. Because you essentially hold up the friend as the exception to the rule. That is a personal choice. It’s like BJP leaders who have personal friends among the Muslim leadership, even at the Mullah level and even attend their Ramadan parties and so on. This happens everywhere. It doesn’t mean anything. In fact such a personal choices allows one to be even more anti-(whatever group it is) elsewhere because one can always keep the friend in one’s mind as evidence of one’s openness. So yeah all blacks are terrible but some are nice and they’re my friends! I am always willing to be friends with those exceptions!
group of RSS activists planned to educate children about Hindutva (the nationalistic Hindu way of life) and shri Krishna Chandra Gandhi opened the first school in Gorakhpur.[2] Prior to this, Gita school was established at Kurukshetra in the year 1946 by Shri Guruji, M.S. Golwalker.
The education style in these schools is a blend of ancient Indian education style as prescribed in the Vedas, nationalistic Hindu pride, and contemporary subjects taught in the local language. They address the male teacher as aacharya (teacher)and female teacher as Didi. The day starts with plenty of prayers to goddess Saraswati in Sanskrit and Hindi. Other patriotic songs and didactic motivational stories are also recited. They sing Shanti Path by which they pray to good for Peace and prosperity of every human being. They also worship Bharat Mata.
As on 2010, about 17,000 schools have been instituted across India. All state-level committees are affiliated to the Vidya Bharati Akhil Bharatiya Shiksha Sansthan[3] educational system, headquartered in Delhi.
Across all grades, the school starts with a zero period(शुन्य कालांश). In this class, the teacher tells students about historical stories and legends of freedom fighters and religions of India.
At the end of school time students sing vande Matram. In many schools, students of north east states are getting education free of cost. In this school all the students are taking lunch to-gather with Teachers (Acharya ji)after a Bhojan Mantra.
Many schools are currently running in rural areas for the betterment of Rural India. All those schools are funded by other schools. Vidya Bharati Akhil Bharatiya Shiksha Sansthan is working with an aim of providing quality education and creation of patriot student in society. Class rooms are in the name of various historic person such as Kabir, Rahim, Kalidas, Subhas Chandra Bose, Bhagat singh etc.
problem with certain discourse is more than anti minority they are more anti majority like criticism of vedas , how its difficult for today hindu to not follow hindutva…equating western fascism to cultural nationalism
whats wrong in attending ramdan or iftar but asking for votes with friday night sermons indicates the other point
case in point anna and mamta yesterday sucked upto a certain bukhari and other religious but not community focusing on there plight
rawness of political front and maoists but again same nehru after 62 war with china issued white paper to communist for anti india activities not right and in 63 this
my thoughts exactly-
Chetan Bhagat @chetan_bhagat · 5h
There was a time you had to attack Hinduism to prove you are secular. Now, you have to attack Modi to prove you are
An open letter by IITians agnst AAP.
Pls RT as much as u can.Dey dont Rs10cr with dem 2 distribute it2 10cr ppl. http://t.co/8yZVLfmg9h— Pradeep Kumar (@Pradeep28bh) February 22, 2014
Just 2 days back, Yogendra yadav said AAP is ready to take political fund from Mukesh ambani ?
aajtak.intoday.in/story/aap-ready-to-take-political-funding-from-mukesh-ambani-says-yogendra-yadav-1-755263.html
And today Kejriwal attacks Ambani in his rally.
Commented elsewhere: “The insinuation that Ambanis’ are crook/thief is wrong. Apple has been finding loopholes in system not paying taxes; that doesn’t make them bad. Companies are in business to make money. As a lawmaker and regulator you need to watch rules are followed. I agree a big player with money has more power to arm twist but that is true in any country.”
That’s the silliest thing I’ve heard.
A crime/cheating is a crime/cheating is a crime/cheating is a crime cheating.
Is this a rule or a law in some country? Where?
In any case looting of natural resources is not the same as Apple or whatever.
The natural resource DO NOT belong to the businessman who has rented it.
Oldgold – Any resource by definition belongs to that country’s people. Then atleast in that country the price should be just price explore plus cost of transportation? I prefer market driven pricing but in India we have convoluted system. We pay more for petrol in form of taxes in spite of all lower prices elsewhere. Increased pricing is not going to help only Reliance, it will help other public sector companies like ONGC, OIL or whoever controls the rigs. The demand side include public sector companies which are major buyers of this gas and they have been opposing increase in the price. When Govt fixed the price, it was challenged in court. Why not the ONGC and other supply side player put in FIR? because Ambanis are easy target.
The thing is that it’s Reliance which signed a contract for 17 years to sell at $2.34 (or thereabouts) while the costs invlolved is $1.
It’s they – Reliance who got the increase just 2 years after the signing of the contract to $4+ and now to $8 from 1st April.
The ONGC and another company called Nikki or something are out of it. Nikki even sells the same stuff at the original price still at $2.34 to Bangladesh.
And Bangladesh argument suggests that same gas which is sold here in India is sold to Bangladesh at lower price. That price is for Bangladesh gas produced over there:
The cost of most medicines are less than $1 but are sold at much higher price.Why? Because it includes cost of research, it includes cost of other failed projects, it includes other fixed costs plus a profit.
Are you saying the RS54000 crores that he’ll make with$8 is just enough to pay ‘increased’ transport, etc expenses?
Are you saying Bangladesh is more efficient in getting out their gas, transport it, etc and still sell it at $2.34?
The $1 costs are as of present, and I presume it includes all costs.
Not letting businesses loot and get rich by extracting money from the public is NOT communism.
Let India not start following US (if that is the state of business there).
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2012/05/04/india-reliance-idUKL4E8G462X20120504
This should give clue (an old article).
$1 is marginal cost. But F and D cost is high and was based on assumption that Reliance will be able to produce 80 mmscmd but the production has not matched to expectation. They need to recover the cost based on continuing operation.
munna nice try 🙂
But it doesn’t work like tthis.
You and I or even newspapers don’t know the details, but I think the three people who approached the then Kejriwal government with information know much more.
It isn’t easy to catch these people. I’m sure they have everything correctly calculated on paper. With all his money and the government (including opposition) in his pay, the information available to newspapers (also bought by him) etc is in his favour.
Lets wait instead of arguing.
It’s unfortunate that one sees the result of corruption but to prove it its an uphill task.
Why is it that poor countries have such rich businessman?
Why is a man from poor Mexico the riches man (at least he was a couple of years ago). Why has Modi got so much that he can be included in the rich of the world?
It’s because of corruption.
In India, corruption is a big issue but I think bigger issue is lack of economic opportunities for everyone. Income disparity, corruption and other things are going to stay in any kind of system; they can only be contained.
“why has Modi got so much that he can be included in the rich of the world?
It’s because of corruption.”
what has kejriwal did to be in list of corruption crusader
kejriwal asked modi of his rally expenses and bjp filed cases on same on kejriwal and he still is silent…why he doesn’t have the guts to face judiciary or counter file cases
corruption crusader exposes cases through judicial process not nautanki
subramaniam swamy exposed 2g in court
coal scam was exposed by missing file..tiday
why so much silence on augusta chopper scam (its worth 3600 cr) and directly it takes a certain godmother on loop
crusader again corruption took another u turn yesterday said communalism is bigger threat than corruption so now he says corruption is secondary lol
LOL. frustrated soul.
I dont understand what people like you have to with india. All saudi people sitting in USA/India keep worshipping destruction for india and chant nuke nuke India, nuke nuke USA to your allah. No one cares for anti nationals. True indian either hindi, muslim or from any religion/caste will never let anti national succeed in their evil agenda.
Yes, I know all about this anti national stuff.
On a site run by some internet company paid by BJP puts names of people on ‘desh drohi’ list if they write anything against Modi or criticise BJP.
Such terrorism is intolerable.
>In India, corruption is a big issue but I think bigger issue is lack of economic opportunities for everyone.
I agree with lack of business opportunity, but whatever there is is quickly snatched up by crony capitalism – who perhaps don’t even want economic opportunities for everyone.
If one *has* to give more economic opportunities to everyone then the structure of business procedures have to be changed (and an unwilling government won’t do it).
In a country of a billion people only a handful run business. *That’s * the situation and IMO a direct result of corruption.
Root cause is corruption.
**According to newsreports,**
Yadav, while addressing reporters in Mumbai on Tuesday, offered a vague response to the question. “If they give us Rs 9,99,999, and if people of Mumbai accept it, then it would not go to (AAP’s) Political Affairs Committee. Once it crosses Rs 10 lakh, then this issue will be placed before AAP’s supreme authority, the Political Affairs Committee, which will deliberate on whether this money is tainted,” India Today website quoted him as saying.
Yadav, however, denied making any vague comment on this issue. He told ET that he had been quoted out of context and that the party will not accept donation from Ambani. “I was trying to clarify that if the money is less than Rs 10 lakh and is donated online then it’s possible we might not discover it immediately. But once it comes to our notice the money will be returned,” he told ET.
Paswans hasnt joined yet. His express his desire, talks are on. Even, NCP leader pawar expressed his desire 2 weeks back and criticized Congress for keep raising Gujarat riot issue inspite of clean chit to Modi.
When Bjp denied ,Yesterday pawar took u-turn and raised gujarat issue issue to criticize modi.
Personally, i dont wish BJP allows any of them, Pawar is denied, so will be Paswan. These rats are opportunistic, they just spoil work done by government. They will bring more damage to NDA govt. We dont want such people join NDA.
what is clean chit business first learn to speak properly
does sit, or cbi was comes under the control of bjp or central government
first kejriwal got any clean chit on his poll expenditure, foreign funding or even his land cases before he became cm
before talking about gas one is even aware in 2012 second half the same man who was an activist of iac was talking about sting operation and how he got hidden file , what he did for 1 and half year
yahan likhne se nahin matter will be resolved in judiciary if one has the will to do so, there are allready 2 pil on it not filed by any kejriwal and matter is on and thats where it will end be
for the same matter:
oil rejected kg basin in 96 and it was reliance who later took it and discovered gases …issue is on pricing and monopoly
He’s explaining the procedure of people donating a certain amount, and what happens if it exceeds that amount and the consideration over it, especially from those who are considered corrupt.
Nowhere did he say AAP would accept.
Ambani owned TV channels are happy to make it sound like that.
Saw a speech by Kejri.
Lost all respect. Seems like a shameless,irresponsible and increasingly desparate oppurtunist. One has to be delusional and a special kind of stoopid to see anything goos here!!
I dislike Modis speeches. All those pauses and a 20th century style of rhetoric and garajna. Kejriwals speeches in comparison are simple and i like that he says loudly what people say in their drawing rooms about corruption.
What I do agree is that the follow up to his speeches comes on the website and not everyone goes there for clarificatiion. For instance yhere are pictures of rs3 to farmers to bring his point home what he said in rohtak.
Which speech are you talking about and what did you not like about it?
This is not about Kejriwal or Modi. This is the rot which only ‘aam aadmi’ can take care!! India can never go to the next stage of advancement/development before corruption is rooted out.
Now before that I also feel majority of Indians are at a point where they need to have a shot again with BJP/ Modi to douse the fire within (mann ki bhadhaas). This type of situation arose in mid/late 90s and everyone was getting crazy that bring BJP and all problems would be resolved and we would all have a Ram Rajya under Advani ji. However nothing of the sorts happened and its end became so haphazard that Congress was able to hold on to power for good 10 years after that. Also the collective false belief / apprehensions of Muslims populace that BJP/ Hindutva forces coming to power somehow meant their end was snuffed out and eliminated. So I definitely feel this thirst-quenching exercise must take place before AAP/ Kejriwal / aam aadmi can have a go at the real issues.
in 90’s bjp never had government for a while, it did in 99 under vajpayee which on every front was better than this decade of paralysis that to when india was under worldwide sanctions for 3 years after nuclear test(imagine that today)
case in piint who are most of better performing chief ministers who did development
modi
chauhan
nitish(was with them for 17 years)
manohar panicker
congress utilised this fear of communalism :
why catholic goa voted for then and why now in gujrat after they ruled
My friend if BJP was so good during their last stint or performed so well, I don’t see any reason why Congress was brought back and that too for such a long time….a good 10 years.
All political parties are more or less same and we have seen corrupt leaders in both parties. The problem is recently it’s become free- for-all and corruption gone totally out of hand. There is a need to stem the rot and something needs to be done whether its Modi or Kejriwal. There was a lot of wealth created in last few years but most of the development money has been devoured by white collared criminals and mind you politicians are the last in the chain.
will be surprised to know even in that phase pan india vote % was allmost identical in 09
question to be asked why they dumped advani, swaraj and focussed on governance
why us , uk and various others strong democracy have 2 party at centre despite fedralism and one get fractured mandate relying on them and even increased corruption
rise of any strong central party with number is the need of hour for strong decision
The 3 Cs Corruption, Communalism, Casteism feed Indian politics. All the three are interlinked. One feeds on the other two. When one talks of corruption, the other two should not be forgotten. But the reformers are afraid to touch the other two which are far more dangerous and disruptive.
Have been recently travelling through Maharashtra and Karnataka. There is an undeniable Modi groundswell building up here as the elections approach. More people are willing to give him the benefit of doubt, and it will take a huge effort from Cong+AAP to derail this momentum. TIme is too short, and IMO, the Cong-AAP strategists badly miscalculated the Delhi experiment. Unless there is some massive scandal against Modi revealed in the runup, he will guide the BJP to at least 220+ seats. If that happens, all the chunnu-munnu players will jump onboard his bandwagon.
Have been recently travelling through Maharashtra and Karnataka. From what I feel talking to people around, there is an undeniable Modi groundswell building up here as the elections approach. More people are willing to give him the benefit of doubt, and it will take a huge effort from Cong+AAP to derail this momentum. TIme is too short, and IMO, the Cong-AAP strategists badly miscalculated the Delhi experiment. Unless there is some massive scandal against Modi revealed in the runup, he will guide the BJP to at least 220+ seats. If that happens, all the chunnu-munnu players will jump onboard his bandwagon.
The mainstream media is mainly BJP bought.
When there was the fake sting operation against AAP it was shown the whole day by them. When proved that it was doctored there was not a sound.
NOW there’s a sting against Modi’s rallies, and how they get people to attend, and hoe peopl wear caps and pose as muslim supporters of Modi – NO ONE is even mentioning it. It’s been blacked out.
Goa is no longer ‘catholic’ Goa. RSS and other hindutva branches have been working hard for decades to dilute their concentration. Today they have been outnumbered.
Goa was never Catholic, rather Goa always had a large minority Catholic population. Goa was always majority non-Christian, just because bwood stereotyped it as being Christian does not make it so.
Yes, you may be right NyKavi about the catholics never being a majority. My point was that it is NOT a ‘catholic’ Goa who voted BJP in power because catholics and muslims just love Modi/BJP, as seemed to be suggested in a comment above. This is the part;
>why catholic goa voted for then and why now in gujrat after they ruled
The Right isn’t responsible for this shift though for good measure they’ve targeted Christians too everywhere they’ve found the chance. The ransacking of churches and so on.
On Bollywood what’s interesting though is the degree to which masala cinema often represented a kind of colonial world in this sense. It wasn’t just the stereotyping but the fact that the latter seemed truer to certain colonial realities than the present in which it operated. One might even say with only slight overstatement that masala (or more precisely the Desai ‘carnivalesque’ brand…) is already a certain form of nostalgia. And in this context Desai finally bringing Bachchan to British India in Mard is perhaps not entirely surprising. The point has been made by others that empires are often better breeding grounds for multiculturalism than contemporary nation-states. The Desai brand of masala cinema was a multicultural paradise of sorts and not surprisingly the director referenced the colonial past more than anyone else in the same (super)genre.
No because all conversions are not created equal! that’s precisely the point. In any case the current discussion from my side isn’t about conversions. That’s not why Goa’s christian population decreased.
Here it would be interesting to track Bachchan’s own Pukar where he starts off being sympathetic to the Portuguese colonizer and actively ‘anti-Indian’ (in terms of the freedom movement) and eventually switches over (a move that is not very convincing in the film). Years later when Abhishek does DMD and returns to this site a mystery unfolds which has more masala and colonial contours than one might think (a point GF has always rightly insisted on). DMD’s Goa is of course very contemporary and very unpleasant in precise ways. This claustrophobic perhaps even paranoid ‘site’ is marked by contemporary politics in certain ways and not coincidentally it is a tale of ghosts and graves with a principal protagonist who is himself a specter of sorts.
Just your saying so doesn’t make it rubbish which is why being civil is a good start.. or would you like people to respond the same way if they consider what you’re saying ‘rubbish’?
Two things amaze me. They don’t fit with the Indian style of democracy.
1. Modi promises to make India like gujarat. Even if one believed that Gujarat is the ‘best’ state in India the point is – it was the Gujarat government who was responsible for it – NOT the PM.
So what is he/BJP proposing?
2. Often Modi supporters come to AAP pages and declare ‘I’m not a supporter of any party, they are all corrupt and the same. I’m a Modi supporter. I’ll vote for him’.
Either they don’t know that you vote for the candidate of a party, BJP in this case, or they want to brainwash and turn the whole thing into a personality cult. So only some thousand people will actually be voting for Modi, the rest will vote for someone else.
@satyam
Thanks for editing some unsavoury comments.
The trick is to terrorise, and get as crude and insulting and personal as possible so that the person writing things that don’t suit them, will stop saying anything about BJP/MODI
It’s happening everywhere.
Former Delhi Chief Minister and AAP chief Arvind Kejriwal and his team of activists kept on defending utter misbehaviour by their Law Minister Somnath Bharti. Even when co-workers of the party and various women’s organisations and political parties kept condemning his abominable act of leading a chunk of rowdy mob to force women of Nigerian nationality to give urine samples in public and enforced various other kind of humiliation on them, their party leaders and ministerial colleagues remained abrasive and shunned any question of dropping him from the cabinet.
While the judicial Commission set up by the LG of Delhi has indicted him, it is yet to be seen whether Arvind Kejriwal comes out in the open to apologise for the condemnable act of former Law Minister Somnath Bharti and the crime their party committed by defending his actions which was none less than an assault on women.
Earlier on Friday, February 28, former Delhi Law Minister Somnath Bharti had been indicted by commission of inquiry into the midnight raid carried by Bharti against some African women in Khirki Extension.
The inquiry panel headed by retired Additional District & Session Judge (ADJ) BL Garg has submitted its report to Lt Governor Najeeb Jung.
he report was on Friday forwarded to Lt Governor’s office and the State Government’s Home and Law and Justice departments seeking their views on it within two days.
The probe, which was conducted by retired Additional District and Session Judge BL Garg, has prima facie not found credence into the allegations of the former Delhi Law Minister.
The report indicated that the police acted as per the law and that the Minister’s supporters intervened in their duty.
It also states that police had not recovered any kind of drugs from the houses of those African girls.
The Lt Governor had ordered the probe into the incident which took place last month and involved Bharti leading a group of locals on a midnight raid on some African residents of Khirki Extension in South Delhi.
The Lt Governor had ordered the probe into the incident which took place last month and allegedly involved Bharti leading a group of locals on a midnight raid on some African residents of Khirki Extension in South Delhi.
Bharti had allegedly gone to a locality in Malviya Nagar where he claimed that a drug and prostitution ring was being run by some African nationals.
Initially, he had demanded that police raid the place. However, when the latter refused, saying they had no warrant to do so, he led the mob on the raid.
trick is to play victim after using unparliamentry language and get retaliation
trick is inablity to defend what one say and unable to refute counterview and reason on context let alone a coherent view and still kept blabbering with furstration and accusing other
Totally Hilarious.
With each passing day, AAP proves that it is nothing but a regular political outfit. These guys did not descend from heaven, all lily white and pure. They too are humans, full of normal human emotions like blind ambition, envy, jealousy, competitiveness, all rolled into a typical political mindset. Witness the scenes of dejection by ordinary AAP workers who are pissed off at the high handedness of its leadership, which is going around distributing seats to the highest bidder. Stalwarts like Shazia Ilmi and Kumar Vishwas too have expressed frustration at the direction being taken by a self-righteous Kejri. And the man himself seems to be busy painting false pictures and giving certificates to the CM’s of other states, while ignoring his own 49 day record. The people of India are not fools, they will gently show him his true aukat in 45 days.
Kejri is a one man army. When he loses one follower, There are four waiting to join. We need some anarchy to empower people. Mamata also used this tactic and now she is sitting pretty having defeated the left in its own bastion.
> giving certificates to the CM’s of other states (15 years), while ignoring his own 49 day record.
I’ve added what you missed. It will make the picture of an unfair anarchist Kejriwal clearer, who dares to give a certificate on the basis of the results to a man ruling for only 15 years while he himself couldn’t achieve much in the looooong 49 days he was CM.
Forget Kejriwal, here’s his brother also giving Modi a certificate about Gujarat .
>Stalwarts like Shazia Ilmi and Kumar Vishwas too have expressed frustration at the direction being taken by a self-righteous Kejri.
His direction is the jhaaduu chalao route direction for many days. He’s very busy with other aspects of the election campagn. Wherever he goes there is a crowd of *aaye hue log* NOT *laaye hue log*.
There are other people making decisions about candidates and other things.
Forget AAP what about discontent in (secular) BJP regarding seat tickets.
Yes those “aaye hue log” love to trample, stampede, destroy public property, impose chaos on the daily lives of commuters of a bustling city like Mumbai.
The “TV Drama a Day” has to be enacted, at any cost, come what may. It did not matter to Kejri that he was going to inconvenience the lives of thousands with his publicity gimmicks, He had to board a local just to show he is a “Aam Aadmi”. It did not matter that the real Aam Aadmi, the poor rozi-roti kamane waala was getting his rozi-roti snatched away due to these stupid antics of Kejri. Enough Said!
And when questioned, all the AAPists conveniently blame the police and railway authorities. Kejri saab aa rahe they, unke liye acha bandobast nahi kiya! Kejri to aasman se utrey hue paigambar hain, unkey liye red carpets bichney chahiye. What a piece of crock!
The media is simply exaggerating. For mumbaikar, it is only a small inconvenience. Mumbai witnesses so many days off due to political outfits deciding to call bandhs, the traders shutting down mumbai for days opposing some taxes, the auto and taxiwallahs suddenly going on strikes. It is not only mumbai but Hyderabad too during telengana and seemandhra agitations. Anna Hazare inconvenienced Delhi for so many weeks and everyone was supporting him and media telecasted every move shutting off other news expecting arab spring like situation. In front of all this, Kejri’s hungama is small and insignificant.
You expect a media man’s trumped up allegations for pleasing his mai baaps, should be answered by a party’s leader, but the same leader’s questions go unananswered by Modi who runs miles from impromptu inteviews and question and answer sessions.
If you are interested let me know and I’ll give you the complete information link to this matter which Rahul Kanwal (LOL he takes his name seriously) had brought up.
A compulsive liar and a flip flopper who has no problem fixing the interview and treating middle class as fools is well qualified to speak about principles…..bahut krantikari hai bhai bahut krantikari. …
I thought intelligent people will at least see the video mastered to put together different parts from different times, so you have the ‘after interview part’ coming ‘before the before interview part’. You see the book open on the table and suddenly it is closed in the next scene but the conversation is supposed to be without break and so on.
Woh bahut krantikari hai bhai bahut krantikari!!!
Modi itna darr gaya iss krantikari se ki jaldi jaldi allies banane laga kahin yeh bahut bade krantikari ki vajah se PM ki kursi na haath se chali jaaye.
Kejri has given ticket to the guy who reversed khemkas orders against vadra for crying out loud.
But don’t wish to engage in tu tu main main, so signing off…bahut krantikari hai bhai bahut krantikari hai. ..
I think Kejriwal has shown that he is not capable of anything constructive and falling prey to same temptations that others have before. Several of these people who start of with ‘honorable’ intentions eventually start believing their coming to power and remaining in news is more important and that these ends are more important than the means. I pity the so called ‘intellectuals’ and ‘liberals’ who get sucked into supporting him because they are so angry towards Modi for his perceived championing of one religion or group. Their self righteousness blinds them to everything else.
And, one has to feel sorry for the contortions they have to go through to defend Kejri or pull down Modi!
In the end, voting right is an empowerment to be used judiciously and not an instrument to make a statement. I would any day take a chai wala who sees Modi for what he is worth i.e the only hope in these murkey waters inspite of his imperfections than an intellectual or a liberal who would enable Congress to return or embolden these joker.
These so called self righteous ntellectuals have their heads so far up their asses that they lose touch with reality!
He’s desperately allying with corrupt parties and people left right and centre – all because he wants to become the PM.
He’s so afraid that while they unconstitutionally announced his name as PM early on, they are unable to announce his seat. They know Kejriwal will pounce on him and stand against him – maybe to lose – but also to end this cosy arrangement that congress and BJP has had for years of not putting up strong candidates where a party’s elite stands from.
All AAP supporters support a decision of his standing from wherever Modi stands. They don’t mind him losing. But principles will win.
Btw, let me give an anecdote of Gujarat, the state that Kejri is trying his best to malign.
Last week there was a Gulfood Fair in Dubai, which is one of the world’s largest annual Food Exhibitions. Happened to meet one Chilli merchant from the Eastern part of Gujurat, members of whose family are well-known Congress supporters from the Panchmahals. They were traditional Chilli traders, and used to buy from farmers in the Guj-MP border belt and distribute it around the state. So this guy, now has progressed to exporting Chillies globally, to as far as Mexico. Due to the various industry development schemes in Guj, he was able to get land allocated to open chilli processing units, and manufacture pizza-peppers and other related items globally. The state govt. has sanctioned land and infrastructure for farmers to be able to keep product in cold storage, labs to test the various features and certify export quality food, etc. So, he is able to gather chilli from Western MP, get it tested in labs in Ahmedabad, get them loaded onto trucks and ready in containers at the ports in less than 48 hrs. He said none of this would be possible had it not been for the excellent infrastructure development that has happened in the last decade under Modi. He does not deny issues, but states that net-net the pace and enormous scope of planning that has occured out there has lifted many many lives into prosperity, from the farmers he contracts with, to the transport companies, cold storage companies, labs, ports, etc. People who want to criticize industrialization can keep doing so, but the fact is one cannot even think of increasing employment without increasing the pace of develpment.
Kejri can go on his smudge campaign, showing various angles of half-full glasses. But he will never be able to hide the truth on the ground, which real people in real situations are propagating out there.
What we don’t understand is there is a vast difference between developing Gujrat and the rest of India esp the interior states of UP/ Bihar. Gujrat development is more a case of its strategic geographical location and vast access to coastline leading to heavy import/export access point to India with Persian Gulf, Red Sea, and Mediterranean and generally the West. It’s always been ahead economically due to natural deep drafted seaports and access to big ships. It’s also the hub of major oil/gas refineries which comes natural to the vast deserted land. With the rise of Ambanis and energy driven world in recent years most of these are controlled by people on the west coast mainly marwaris/gujjus. Even now most of the big gas carriers have access only in Guajarati seaports.
Then there is fact that lot of Gujju wealth is NRI driven and the amount of money pouring in money transfers due to strong family network among Gujrati community.
There is a certainly a desperation to bring Modi by a majority as he seems to be the last strong leader of a political party on paper. There is a big vacuum of leadership in BJP itself. Congress is all over the place. Manmohan Singh wants a way out of public life. Rahul is immature and more into coke addiction than problems facing India. So Modi remains the last hope for a lot of people.
Let me just say that every market participant I have recently met, every financial adviser, currency specialist, etc of their ilk has warned that if the BJP does not come to power, we can kiss the 60 level goodbye and enter a new dawn of 1USD = Rs 80. The levels today are purely based on speculative confidence. The rupee has stabilized a bit because of manipulations (opening of second swap window and so forth) and also because Chidu has pulled wool over our eyes, by shifting major expenditure components to the next fiscal, thus artificially narrowing the CAD. Expect this CAD to balloon in the next fiscal. And if a stable functioning central govt is not found operating in 2015, we can all kiss our hard earned Indian assets goodbye for a very long time.
Another thing that they are fooling the public with is that Modi will make India like Gujarat. How???
If Gujarat is as great as it is he is taking the credit for it as CM, and if he becomes PM he will take the credit of the other states beconing like Gujaratr?? Won’t the CMs of the states take the credit – or was it Manmohan who made Gujarat so called great as PM?
Taking people for fools as always. I hope they learn a lesson soon.
India is not gujarat. Compact, with one major language, one major religion, strong middleclass and rich class dominating the poor.
India is a country of different languages, different religions, the poor being the major chunk of the population who have their own political masters, caste and communal leaders and above all an activist supreme court. Even if bjp gets majority, the federal structure wont allow Modi to impose his dictat and there will always be conflict of interest. Ruling a state government is different from ruling a central government.
u must be joking sanju – advani????? that old fella is riding on modi’s shoulders since 5 years on Gandhinagar’s (Guj. capital) seat – he has a very bad public image and he couldnt much when BJP was in power – and u tell him as a practical choice? jaitley is not a pm material at all. Modi by all means deserves a 5 yrs term
Agreed there, but what’s irksome is putting Modi only as the poster boy of development and taking Gujrat as a model state. A lot many things are coming naturally to Gujrat and he is there in the right place at right time.
I am one of the few who believe more than the governance it’s the corruption which is at the core of all the ailments. Stagnation in economy has taken place since we never went to next level in infrastructure development due to rampant corruption at all levels. Also more than the politicians it’s the white collared thieves who have ripped the country.
BJP if it is in the same format as earlier will be no better esp. since it has a bunch of corrupt leaders in prominent position.
Until now I am very pleased with AAP and Kejri as they have been instrumental in shaking the status quo at least.
Corruption off course is at the root of all ailments. But do not make the mistake of thinking that there is no corruption in developed countries. Kejriwal talks of a utopia which is non-existent. There may be some small homogenized population country (eg the Switzerland) where corruption is almost non-existent. But by and large it exists everywhere, in managed doses. It is omnipresent, the only difference being that in places like China or the West, things get done, which enable commonfolk to at least obtain basic employment. In India, the rulers take money and do not deliver, thus reducing the people to abject poverty.
Modi works only because he has delivered, while keeping corruption in check. So people are ready to extrapolate his record in Gujarat to the pan-India level. One can never eradicate corruption, it is etched in the human psyche and simply impossible to eradicate.
The video of his brother criticizing him actually proves that Modi is not given to nepotism like every other national leader. At least we know that he is not going to be personally corrupt. Without any family, who will he give the loot to?
Having a family does not automatically mean loot and corruption.
A person not being a family man is more dangerous than him or her being a family man or woman. He or she is answerable to no one in the family and the family wont tie him or her down. He or she lives for himself or herself, his or her ego is the biggest thing that we are seeing. Personal power is his or her family and he or she enjoys all the trappings of power like living in big houses, the unprecedented security at all levels, the expensive travels and tours, the sycophants singing praises. Even a maharaja cant dream of a better life. We have single men and women in politics, some of whom are megalomaniacs.
The Indian public are not that intelligent.
The one man and one woman have their political friends whom they nurture, protect and shield. Political families are replacing traditional families.
Great! insult the intelligence of the avg Indian. You will be surprised at their perception of things. Had the junta been dumb, Cong would not have been booted out mercilessly in this last assembly election cycle.
Corruption is there in all societies which I agree but the level of corruption in recent times is now reaching Pakistani and African nation level where everything is up for sale. There is no Imaan Dharam if translated in filmy language. Just today there was a tweet from Sonu Sood on one of the newly developed projects which is summary of Indian development.
Repeated spewing of BS does not convert lies into truth. Randomly spewing out figures describing 1000s of crores of scams and announcing that they will cut water/electricity rates by 50% in Mumbai is not going to fool anyone now. The electorate is aware of what his Delhi record is. Kejri talks about Delhi as if he went into a village and converted it into Shanghai in 49 days! Just passing random diktats and orders to initiate laws, and then bailing out in 49 days without even seeing those diktats through to implementation does not a record make. Who is he trying to fool? The 50% electricity cut has now resulted in the DISCOMS getting back huge subsidies from the govt, otherwise Delhi wudve faced massive power cuts from the start of summer. Did Kejri even bother to followup on his ham-handed diktat? Kejri keeps rehashing the same tired lies about Guj. Those in the audience who have never been to Guj may get duped. But those that know about Guj will get turned off totally.
And even after all this, there are people in the video saying that they get 24hrs electricity. He could not find a single slum out there. Everyone is living in brick-n-mortar houses in the poor areas. Yes, there are issues with garbage collection, broken streets in these poor areas, gutter drainage, etc. But does anyone realize how big a task it would be to totally revamp that infrastructure in the old areas of Ahmedabad? Where will the funds come for that? Gujarat gives a whole bunch of taxes to the center, but does not get a penny back in return. Its not like Nitish’s Bihar where he wants to make it a permanent-special-state receiving obscene amounts of funds from the center.
And if you take a car ride from JFK through I678 towards the Whitestone Bridge, I bet one will feel he has landed in a mid-tier city in India, so bad is the condition of roads right here in NYC!
I lived in AP(Hyd), Karnataka(Bangalore) and Gujarat(Ahmedabad) .. Frankly I found Bangalore best followed by Hyderabad and then Ahmedabad. Go and see Slums of Bangalore .. it is so neat, clean and colorful that all middle class colonies of Gujarat will find tough time competing them ..
PS : when I am comparing these three .. my focus is on Slum(lower middle class) areas, middle class living standard and basic facilities … in terms of cosmetic development .. even Hyderabad is too good.
Anyway – after that doctored video that caused such excitement among the opposition supporters of AAP, that they started chanting and praising Arvind Kejriwal’s krantikari character with wonderful slogans of;
Bahut krantikari hai bhai bahut krantikari. – which we always knew, here is a vide showing the involvement of Modi in the riots with his hands red. Babu Bajrangdali…
Yes this superbly edited one is going viral now. Assuming this is authentic, is this admissible in a court of law? I mean is a sting operation admissible?
Also, if what these guys are saying is true, how dumb are these guys!!! Practically confessing to everything! Reminds me of Carlos Mencia’s stand-up where he calls Mexicans the dumbest coz they loot stores and stand in front K-MART grinning with a TV set in their hands interviewing to a TV crew and then appear shocked a few hours later when the cops walk in to their houses with warrants!!!
There are clear sentences claiming things so editing doesn’t make a difference as it did in the AK video where they compiled different parts in wrong order to make it look like an answer to certain questions. And the voiceover has to be believed if one really wants to, and last of all – this is hardly *fixing*. If Modi gave interviews he would want no wrong impressions on his audience too.
Here what he’s saying is clear. This man should be questioned. He belongs to Bajrang Dal or something. They should question him. It’s not as if the identity is unclear.
No no I am not questioning the veracity. I am just asking that even if the assumption that this is a completely true, non-doctored version or anything, is this admissible in a court of law as solid proof? I mean I am just asking of any ‘sting’ operation – AAP or BJP or Modi or Pappu’s ‘honest’ bro-in-law – for that matter for anybody. Maybe someone with a law background like Rooney or Qalandar can tell us?
Because out here in the US, you CANNOT even voice-record without getting prior permission from the opposite side – which renders everything futile since NO one in a right frame of mind will reveal ‘important truths’ one he or she knows that it is being recorded.
When I said it was superbly edited I meant it was edited for ‘maximum’ impact during election-time. This one is supposed to be from a 2.5 hour documentary or something out of which 17 minutes have been carefully compiled.
**Wasn’t Nixon’s Watergate scandal also sting? Voice sting?**
No. Nixon’s cronies were caught trying to bug the Democratic National Convenenors’ offices in Watergate complex. Nixon was sitting plumly on his ass in his offices trying to listen in to what the Democrats were thinking. He was in the process of bugging – the same thing an otherwise OUTSTANDING chief minister and scholar RamaKrishna Hegde was accused of in 1988 in Bangalore and forced to resign.
Here is AAP’s hypocrisy, awarding ticket to the IAS officer who reversed Khemka’s orders against Vadra. Then you say that AAP is not a minion of Congress? No wonder Kejri has gone silent against the dynasty. Aam Aadmi Paid Party:
Speculation in Dubai is that she was murdered because she threatened to spill the beans on all the Congress hawala money pouring into Dubai Real Estate. In the last year, banks in Dubai have reported $14billion of Indian sourced funds pouring into RE. Most of these are obtained through hawala route and then laundered into the banking system, further being used to buy hundreds of expensive properties.
Dubious individuals have purchased entire hotel apartment buildings in Al-Barsha for $100M per property. The sudden jump in Dubai RE over the past 12 months is being entirely attributed to hot money from India.
Sunanda Pushkar was a resident of Dubai before she met Tharoor. People speculate that she was a link in this massive hawala transfer scheme. In a fit of jealousy, she started tweeting out comments against Tharoor, which got people in high places very concerned, and then we all know what happened to her.
“I will have to file either a PIL or when there is a government that is more responsive to the public, like Narendra Modi’s government, at that time I will take it up and see that it (the case) is brought to a conclusion,” Swamy told Headlines Today.
“Why is Shashi Tharoor feeling so nervous? He should be one who should be standing up and say I want a complete inquiry to be done. Why did he get rushed through the cremation of his wife within a day? This is ridiculous. There are many things which are wrong with it,” Swamy said.
One just needs to take a flight to Dubai to see the kinds of stuff that goes on. There are large Indian jewellery store chains springing up from nowhere. All of a sudden you have an outfit that announces opening of multiple stores, ropes in major bwood stars for ads (Amitabh et al) and makes a big splash. Meanwhile, local existing stores that have been there for generations wonder where this new guy got the money from. Then we hear that some big Indian minister (eg Chidambaram, Amma, etc) have invested. And then you have a ban for gold imports into India, but allowance for NRI’s to carry 1kg of gold back. So then willing passengers are given free air tickets to become official gold mules. And suddenly the sales of gold in all these new chains shoot up, thus directly benefiting the bigwigs that invested.
The Indian brain is expert at dhandli, and this type of dhandli starts at the top of the pyramid.
The simple truth is that if BJP and Modi ki leher were authentic there would have been no need to make alliances with people they have chosen to, and recruit criminals to their party.
This pics of Pushkar are in really, really, bad taste. Whoever has taken these pictures (if these are crime-site pics leaked then I take back my words) should really be thrashed and worst of all, these pictures of a dead body are now being paraded on twitter??
One really needs to be scared of this WWW and ‘un’social networking man..
And here’s a picture of him travelling with another member – just two.
This picture was posted by enthusiastic fans who were posting picures at every step.
Even a criminal has certain rights. Everyone knows why tejpal is being persecuted in this manner while others committing more heinous crimes are roaming freely.
Though I dont have an iota of sympathy for tejpal, but the way he is being harassed by planting a cellphone in his cell is too filmy. Tomorrow they may plant some drugs or even a body to implicate him. The courts should take note of this and warn the Parrikar government.
Hitler became the Chancellor of Germany in January, 1933. Within a month, he invoked the emergency powers for ‘the protection of the people and the State’. He restricted personal liberty, free speech, fundamental rights and imposed various restrictions on the right to privacy. The ostensible reason for proclamation of emergency was a Communist conspiracy to burn down Governmental buildings. The pretext was that a day before the proclamation of emergency there was a fire at the Reich Stag. Much later, the Nuremberg trials established that the fire had been engineered to provide a false pretext.
Indira ji also proclaimed the emergency in India on June 26, 1975. She claimed that JP was leading an agitation where Armed Forces were being asked to defy illegal orders. She, therefore, suspended all fundamental rights including the right to life and liberty. She imposed censorship on the Press, compromised judicial independence. Her Attorney General pleaded before the Supreme Court that in the absence of the right to life and liberty, a detenu could be killed in prison and he had no recourse. A pliable Supreme Court accepted this argument.
Hitler did not command a two-third majority in the German Parliament. He, therefore, detained 91 Opposition MPs in order to reduce the voting strength of the House and amended the Constitution giving to him absolute power. Indira ji detained a large number of Opposition MPs and brought about draconian 42nd Amendment to the Constitution which had to be substantially repealed after the emergency. She went a step further and even prohibited the publication of Parliamentary proceedings. The law which provided immunity to the media from publishing Parliamentary proceedings was repealed. Curiously, this law had been proposed by Rahul Gandhi’s grandfather, the Late Shri Feroze Gandhi.
despite all this, there was a fundamental difference between Indira Mrs Gandhi’s emergency and Hitler’s regime. “Hitler did not promote a dynasty because he did not have any one to promote.”
Panaji, Goa: Goa Police today told Bombay High Court that kin of Tehelka founder editor Tarun Tejpal, accused of raping a junior woman colleague, were showing CCTV footage related to the case to “everybody” in Delhi.
“The CCTV footage is made available to Tejpal. The same footage is displayed to everybody in Delhi by the family members,” advocate Saresh Lotlikar, representing the state Crime Branch, told the Goa bench of Bombay High Court here.
Lotlikar was arguing against the bail petition filed by Tejpal, who is currently lodged in Sada sub jail.
The court has kept the matter for order on March 14.
However, advocate Amit Desai, representing Tejpal, said the CCTV footage procured outside the lift clearly indicates that there cannot be a case against the accused.
He rubbished the arguments that the victim was “way-laid, abused and taken advantage” by his client.
Lotlikar said that if Tejpal is given bail, he will influence the witnesses and halt the process of trial.
“Applicant (Tejpal) cannot be expected to be disciplined, if he is released on bail,” the lawyer said, in an animated one-hour arguments between defence and prosecution lawyers over the submissions.
The prosecution said details of the calls made from the cellphone which was allegedly found in possession of Tejpal in the jail were also being ascertained. The calls were found to be made to persons in Gurgaon and Delhi.
“The victim is already feeling traumatised. She has disclosed that messages are being circulated vilifying her character,” Lotlikar said strongly opposing the bail plea.
The crime was a premeditated one because “it was repeated twice over,” he said.
There may not be conclusive evidence against Tejpal, but the evidence is strong, he added.
The prosecution sought to defeat the arguments that case against Tejpal was a political vendetta as the “entire charge sheet is based on the evidence collected through fair investigations.”
“The CCTV footage clearly indicates that the girl was running behind Tejpal after getting down from the lift as against the claims made that Tejpal ran after her,” Desai said, adding that the “the girl was happy and held back no tears.”
The footage also shows that the girl went into the lift with consent, Tejpal’s lawyer argued.
Tejpal was present in the court flanked by his family members when the case was being argued.
Desai said the complaint against Tejpal was an afterthought, which can be revealed through two emails written by the victim which has certain details added in the second mail.
Pleading for bail, the lawyer said the CCTV footage contradicts the claims of investigating agency that Tejpal raped the girl.
fter his awkwardly-worded bail plea (“the victim was an educated modern woman”) failed and the legal pincer tightens inexorably, Tarun Tejpal, founder-editor of Tehelka, is seeking to project himself as a victim of a “Right Wing political conspiracy” as Goa, where he is being tried for rape, sexual harassment and outraging the modesty of a woman, is ruled by the BJP. The ruse cuts little ice because the successive incidents happened at his own THiNK festival and the victim was his junior colleague, and not a member of the general public who could be alleged to have been ‘planted’ by a political entity. It also overlooks the fact that besides the victim, five senior colleagues later quit the magazine in protest, while managing editor Shoma Choudhary was forced to step down.
From the time his young victim reported the incidents to her friends, colleagues, and boss Shoma Chaudhury, and Tejpal incriminated himself with SMSes and emails which became public and set the law on him, his friends and admirers have launched a sustained media campaign on his behalf. The victim and her mother have mainly been silent. Activists have spoken up in their defence when asked to comment on specific allegations, but the Tejpal camp is on the offensive.
The veteran journalist alleges political bias, “The Goa police and BJP Chief Minister Manohar Parrikar, both exhibited a rare zeal not noticed before. BJP spokesmen, long chafing over Tehelka’s exposure of the defence purchase scam (Operation West End), Gujarat 2002 and other matters, gleefully grabbed the opportunity for revenge.” Acknowledging that feminists and criminologists are opposed to softening the amended rape law, he points out that as the law proceeds, the victim will face cross-examination regarding the alleged ‘two versions’, and points out that this law also provides for conciliation at the request of the woman, which is “probably what Shoma had intended in order to avoid further trauma”. He concludes with the advice that, “the media and political leaders would do well to spend time in honest introspection”, but does not explain what they need to introspect about.
1. Conspiracy of purchase of RIL shares of Rs.944 crores on private placement to UTI etc at inflated prices; and also acceptance of RIL duplicate shares already Mr.Y.P.Singh, an officer of the CBI produced a 40 page report and sought permission from the Finance Ministry to proceed further in the matter. He was transferred This Hon’ble Court commenced looking into the matter only on 24.8.2001, where after the CBI was directed to product the file re: the self contained note dated 24.9.1996 to which reference was made in the CBI’s affidavit dated 16.5.2000 (This affidavit
sold to others out of the CBI and the investigation was out on hold. adverted to the fact that the CBI had closed the file only on the direction of the Finance Ministry. The file was produced on 20.9.2001 in a sealed cover their Lordship, after perusal, observed that it did not appear to contain any direction for closure of the case. Hence it is submitted that this Hon’ble Court must monitor further investigation/follow up of Mr.Y.P.Singh’s report. C. OTHERS.
1.Between April 1990 and October 1995, RIL was alleged to have altered 70.30 lakh share transfer deeds, rendering them defective and incapable of being acted upon for effecting transfer In 1996, 29 criminal cases were filed by the Registrar of Companies Maharashtra. Summons were issued on 13.7.1996 by the Addl. Chief Metropolitan Magistrate Mumbai against Dhirubhai Ambani, his two sons and six others. No progress has been made thereafter. This Hon’ble Court has not yet looked into the matter and the same appears to have not progressed further. __________________________________________________________________
5. The submission of the petitioner was that the alleged commission of irregularities in the aforesaid case was almost admitted even by the respondents in their counter affidavits on the basis of which they had investigated the matter and initiated proceedings. However, the petitioner was at pains to point out that the investigation and/or prosecution in all these cases were going at snail’s pace and in fact it was only after the progress was monitored by this court and orders were passed from time to time in this behalf, that the respondents speeded up the investigation and filing of charge-sheet in the court of law. Therefore, his submission was that the court should continue to monitor the progress of the cases.
6. On behalf of the CBI, Mr. K.N. Bhatt, learned senior counsel had made the submissions. The CBI investigation relates to the issue of purchase of shares of RIL by the Unit Trust of India, and therefore, would be dealt with at appropriate stage when the said issue is being discussed.
7. Mr. Vikas Mehta, Advocate appeared for the Enforcement Directorate and referring to the various affidavits including the last affidavit filed on 9th August, 2001 stressed about the progress being made in the investigations relating to various cases on the basis of which he submitted that since the Enforcement Directorate was itself looking into the matter, no directions need be given nor any monitoring was required by the court.
8. Mr. Ashok H. Desai, learned senior counsel appeared for the RIL. With vehemence he opposed the present writ petition contending that it was a politically motivated petition filed by the petitioner who had leveled reckless and malicious allegations. These allegations were not only aimed at the officials of RIL and officers of some of the Government Undertakings, infact the petitioner had not even spared the PMO, Union Home Minister, former Chief Minister, Delhi and other such highly placed persons who were not even made parties in their personal capacity in the writ petition. Referring to such allegations against these high dignitaries in the writ petition. Mr. Desai submitted that sheer motive of the petitioner was to malign these persons and it was enough to expose the motives behind such a petition which was in fact not a petition in public interest. He also argued that as per the petitioner’s own showing in all five cases pointed out by the petitioner either the charge-sheet had been filed I the court or conscious decision taken not to take particular action or show cause notices had been issued. In such circumstances, according to the learned senior counsel, it was not appropriate for this court to give any directions at this stage as the court was not to issue such directions when the matter was pending investigation by the police or when the matter was pending before the appropriate court after the charge-sheet had been filed. To sum up, his submission was as under:
a) There should not be any direction for prosecution of the case as that would affect fair trial and right of the accused inasmuch as if such direction is issued by a superior court, the trial court of competent jurisdiction would be influenced by such direction with lurking impression at the back of mind that the superior court has found some substance in the charge against the accused and that would not only affect the rights of the accused but fair trial of the case as well.
b) When the matter was pending investigation by the police, the court would be slow in giving directions as the investigation was the demand of police authorities.
c) Likewise, once the charge-sheet was filed in the court of law or appropriate authority had taken the decision one way or the other in a matter, or when show cause notice was issued for eliciting further information and was pending consideration at the level of appropriate authority, the court should not interfere in a Public Interest Litigation and issue any directions in the matter which was seized by the aforesaid authorities.
Rockstar bhagwaan tumhara bhala kare….filmy website hai , don’t vent all your political bhadhaas ….thoda bahut chit chat karo and tension free raho.
I am saying this again there is no point in blaming any govt because all are more or less same as they say in hindi ek hi thali ke chatte batte… we have seen this in BJP too which is full of power brokers and corrupt leaders. Now with the tide in their favor, bigger a.holes like Paswans are joining them and they have no hesitation in vetting/accepting them. That party apart from a few like Advani and Sushma Swaraj are bunch of opportunists too and full of hooligans.
India mein bureaucracy is a problem and if bureaucrats were straight, politicians would be spending sleepless nights. Though our legal system is first rate, there is no respect for law at all. That is the basic we need to start from and that can only be achieved by police and bureaucrats. That way Aamir and SMJ are providing a good platform to highlight these issues.
bhagwan tumhara bhi bhala kare and first lesson concentrates on quotes instead of personal stuff …furstrated soul resort to that to crave attention and be prolific on either filmi or even any other stuff if one has capability
why paswan is not secular today (he was minister in nda earlier for lame knowledge)and calling asshole resort to deep furstration…india main problem bureaucracy nahin nehruvian bureaucracy hai…and calling other asshole and blindly worshipping another thing is intellectual bankruptcy
concentrate on what you are good in posting ..calling other’s name and action is one thing but shutting him up with facts is another if one is facing deep trauma
Former Tehelka editor-in-chief Tarun Tejpal, who is in judicial custody here, regularly telephoned from prison a Delhi-based woman business associate, an inquiry report said Wednesday.
The report filed before the Margao district and sessions court Wednesday by prison authorities also said a SIM card seized from Tejpal’s prison cell at the Sada sub-jail, 35 km from here, was registered in the name of a woman from a Panaji suburb.
It said Tejpal regularly called Sheela Lunkad, who is Tejpal’s partner in a hospitality venture.
Sheela Lunkad, Rajeev Lunkad, Tejpal and his wife Geetan Batra Tejpal are partners in a private limited company.
The report added that Tejpal also called a woman called Manjiri, based in Delhi’s Saket area, at regular intervals, besides several other phone numbers in the national capital.
“We are in the process of writing to the mobile service providers for proper contact details of the owners of these numbers. They will be included in the probe as to how the mobile phone was sneaked into prison,” said an official associated with the inquiry.
The probe also revealed that the SIM card – bearing phone number 7350533170 – which was recovered from Tejpal’s shirt collar was registered under the name of Thereza, residing in Taleigao, a suburb of Panaji.
Tejpal has denied possession of the SIM card, but was booked under various sections of the Indian Penal Code and of the Prison Act.
A junior woman colleague has accused Tejpal of rape during a conference organised by the Tehelka founder in Goa. The woman said she was sexually assaulted twice in November.
After an investigation, the Goa crime branch charged Tejpal with sexual harassment, wrongful restrain, rape, taking advantage of his official position, and committing rape in his custody.
Arvind Kejriwal is the Harry Potter of Indian politics. Perched on a magic broom—the election symbol of his Aam Aadmi Party (AAP)—he has catapulted himself as a boy wizard fighting against all odds in a shadowy world inhabited by demons and beasts. He has even conjured a supreme malevolent villain on the lines of Voldemort as a fountainhead of the Dark Arts reincarnated as corrupt politics. Donning the Potter mantle, Kejriwal has publicly denounced Mukesh Ambani, India’s biggest business magnate, who was so far the one Who-Must-Not-Be-Named despite persistent gossip about his growing clout in the corridors of power. Kejriwal’s assertion that the country’s two main political parties, the Indian National Congress and the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), are mere puppets of the evil lord (that would be Ambani) seeks to turn the upcoming contest in the national polls this summer into a battle between good and evil. http://greatbong.net/2014/03/11/deconstructing-kejriwal-part-1/
asiey kitney Sanjiv Bhatt/ Ishrat/ IB/ CBI/ SIT/ Teesta/ Connie/ NDTV/ Burqa/ Moron Ghose/ Rajdeep aaye aur Namsatey kar gaye….aap Qatar mein hain !! Lage raho !!!
The guy for whom corruption was the biggest issue, suddenly became communalism the biggest issue, then said Batala was fake, then said Anna ‘s Andolan was pro Hindu……
Commies ko ek mashwara— issey na ho payega, isska ilaaz karao, yeh na rok payega Modi kee leher…. kuch aur item boy/ girl dhoondho !!
PS1- Bahut Kalakari hai Bhai
PS2-
Everyone else is corrupt,only I am , honest Arvind kejriwal
Translated: Ye duniya pittal di, baby doll main sone di!
PS3- I am so done for the day, Jai Bharat, Jai Hind !!
there was a guy caught pimping interview in media, there was a guy caught dong nuisance and telling lies and there was a guy who daily takes u turn just to be in limelight because anyway without media and nautanki he has no base
>there was a guy caught pimping interview in media,
At least he gives interviews in media and faces a torrent of cross examination with questions raining on him.
Where is Modi?
If he’d give interviews the amount of pimping ***and*** money changing hands would be astounding.
But never mind a lot of pimping going on by them otherwise.
putin is taller in stature than modi and in reality the most commanding leader hopefully modi joins the stake worldwide soon as he himself is no nonsense person administratively
I am not surprised, Muslims are already following this all over the world. My 2 colleagues in my team are muslims and they are close friends. But, i was always surprised when there is a meeting with Our senior Architect (whose name is Rama), they call him Roma or reema but will never call him Rama.
I was perplexed Why were they doing it deliberately as everyone else knows his name clearly. Though, our senior architect never cared for it, and always focused on content.
I know most of people will not believe me and will probably call me right wing fundamentalist but i can even record audio sometime to prove it if anyone demands.
has done his bit for rehalibitation of kashmiri pandits and was very good in woody allen’s movie in his one on one tnteraction with bradley cooper and robert di niro
@munna
LOL
Its the second time you’ve put up a link for support of your view without reading it. Headlines sometimes mislead. Your Forbes link about Big Business in Gujarat was actually a damning one for Modi. The Big here is used sarcastically. Some excerpts from it to whet your appetite to read it;
” FORBES ASIA has copies of the agreements that show he got the 30-year, renewable leases for as little as one U.S. cent a square meter (the rate maxed out at 45 cents a square meter). He in turn has sublet this land to other companies, including state-owned Indian Oil Co., for as much as $11 a square meter. Between 2005 and 2007 at least 1,200 hectares of grazing land was taken away from villagers.”
This is something AK has been shouting for some time now to the deaf media who are busy building Modi up. Some more;
“Modi said farmers were his friends and he would stand by them. He also said he would “not allow anyone to loot the exchequer.”
But spend time around the villages of Kutch and a vastly different picture appears. ”
I leave the rest for you to read – and all other Modi/BJP bhakts. 😉
Actually I have a Guardian UK link which tells all about this GUjarat business but didn’t give the link because it would be mocked at for coming from a leftist. So thanks a tom for this link. I’ve spread it around.
Another bit of news that had made the rounds several weeks ago was posted on Modi’s page/blog about Wiki stating that Modi was incorruptible. This was spread around and made much of. Today the founder (?) Julian A tweeted about its fakeness. Meantime the post on Modi’s page/blog has been removed but not before it was downloaded. Here’s the original post and the tweets denying it.
#India: No WikiLeaks document say #Modi is ‘incorruptable’, rather he is popular because ‘viewed’ as ‘incorruptable’
This is original tweet. ISn’t Modi popular? He is most popular politician india ever had. And wikileaks linked his popularity to that he is viewed as incorruptible.
That means he is viewed as incorruptible leader that’s why he is popular.
He can’t not be viewed as incorruptible just for namesake. After all, he is being monitored closely more than anyone else for last 10 years. People and media can’t be totally blind. He has passed test of time and he is considered as incorruptible and that’s what makes him popular.
Anti-India People can’t just digest the fact that Modi is scheduled to be our PM in just 2 months time.
hide the fact that the land given to Adani in Kutch was not “sold” to them – it was given to them under BOOT scheme- Build Own Operate Transfer. And its not like Adani got the land and re-rented it without adding any value – they developed the land and then rented it out. Any idea what was total agricultural output of Mundhra or Kutch (A declared Desert zone) prior to 2002? When we say agricultural output has depleted for some exclusive people? Can you compare it with the total net benefit post the Adani or other Infra activities?
Indeed true that if someone is being at disadvantage due to society’s overall benefit than proper steps must be taken to compensate their losses.
I’m neither someone’s diehard supporter nor anyone’s cruel critic when it comes to selecting political leader; but if and when it comes to chose one among today’s politicians I’d most obviously vouch for Mr. Narendra Modi; Not out of some blind love but only because of 1 reason = His net output to his people is multifold higher than any other leader.
There is no point arguing with people with no sense of how business/industry works. Adani converted a banjar zameen into a highly industrialized zone, in the process generating thousands of new jobs, new revenue for the Govt, and new infrastructure for various industries to thrive upon. But Kejri will ignore all the land development activities, and insist that a Rs1 land got sold for Rs 11. Just the same way, he ignored all economics and claimed that gas costing $2 in 2002 should cost the same in 2014, even though there has been 200% inflation in every commodity, service, salary, etc in those 12 yrs. Kejriwal ne IIT-Kanpur ka naam badnaam kar diya, itney uloo nahi hotey IITians.
and all for this pimpimg up of interview happened now this is media crooks one month back…do watch poorna prasoon vajpayee angle before the expose which took place before 1 month of incident
Also, history o this jounalist is all there tosee, Defending sonia gandhi on every front and supporting food security bill at the cost of high account deficit and calling Modi liar in post headlines without any reason. http://www.forbes.com/sites/meghabahree/2013/06/11/did-narendra-modi-lie/
Rupee is strengthening in last few weeks, dollar exchange rate about to go below 60 rs 🙂
Market is peaking to 22k+
Good times ahead, It is just the news of expected win all over. Lets Modi come and see how anti -India people either change their color like chameleon or plan terrorist attack to destabilize.
The market works on confidence, and the closer we get to May 16, the more speculation there will be for a positive outcome.
As I mentioned previously, if by any chance Modi does not become PM, we will see a quick U turn for the Rupee. 1USD=Rs80 will not be out of the question then.
Even the Congressi billionaires by now should be praying that Modi becomes PM, after all, their own billions will lose tremendous value if he does not.
Shouting slogans 12 years back and still doing same. That is only his experience.
When it came to do actual work, he ran away. Moreover, now he started hiding corrupt people in his own party.
Ashok Khemka was the IAS officer in Haryana who got into trouble for tackling land acquisitions by Robert Vadra, Sonia Gandhi’s son-in-law.
Khemka was transferred, and his orders reversed by his successor, Yudhbir Singh Khyalia. Now the same Yudhbir Singh Khyalia, having taken early retirement, is the Aam Aadmi Party candidate for the Hisar Lok Sabha seat.
He is no doubt smart, and the biggest mistake made by the Congress in its history was to support him in Delhi. The series of blunders made by Congress in a space of 6 months is amazing, leaving it with no base whatsoever in vast chunks of the country. They lost Andhra, Delhi along with almost all of North India, and only have some small states like Kerala, Mizoram etc left in their kitty. The party is finished for all practical purposes. And out of those ashes will emerge Kejriwal as the new psuedo-secular. Though it remains to be seen how long the veil of honesty lasts for his outfit.
All he has managed to do is to eat Congress’ lunch, very quickly pulling the rug from under them and usurping the space occupied by them for the last 60 yrs. He is not making any dent to the BJP, in fact he is polarizing votes so much that the BJP base only becomes stronger.
So many times congress is written off but somehow it is making a comeback with ragtag coalition partners in tow.
Kejriwal is just a beginner but he had shown how to make voters eat out of his hands and all the parties are trying to learn something from him. That is connecting with real and micro issues than general issues like development and investment or foreign policy which enamours only the rich. Even communal politics have taken a backseat due to Kejri’s storm.
If the results turn out as per the opinion polls, it will take the Congress all the way back to 1998, when Sonia was enticed out of self-exile to lead the party. Rahul was to have already taken charge of the party by now, and lead it to victory. However, this impending defeat will force out more people who stuck in there just for a taste of power. Only the true Gandhi sycophants will hang on for a bit more, in the hope that Rahul gains some magic touch. Unfortunately, that hope will disappear soon, and the base of this party will shrink further.
The regional players are gaining and the national parties are depending on regional parties. The more the regional parties gain, the more the opportunity for them to have their own prime ministerial candidate who maybe supported by either of the national parties. Even Mulayam is nursing this ambition and compared to Jayalalitha and Mayawati, his chances are bright. He is playing both bjp and congress cards.
A zealous Samajwadi Yuvjan Sabha leader Arun Gupta first said it was done in the spirit of Holi — a week after the festival was over. But on Sunday, Gupta told TOI, “The BJP is poaching on other parties because it doesn’t have credible candidates to contest elections.” He then added, “SP has no shortage of leaders, and the party is going to polls in the name of development. BJP is playing politics of religion.”
BJP’s UP spokesman DM Mishra dismissed this as stunt. “All parties fear BJP’s prime ministerial candidate as his popularity is rising. People will give a fitting reply to the SP in the coming election,” Mishra said.
The poster has not only caused heartburn among political parties but also among authorities. The district administration said posters aggravating differences amounted to flouting model code of conduct.
“Action would be taken in this regard,” said an official. A senior Congress leader said, “Political workers should refrain from making fun of political parties and their leaders.”
On Holi, huge posters had come up showing AAP leader Arvind Kejriwal on a tricycle pulled by a dog. Rahul Gandhi and Modi were shown with their legs in chain, and BSP’s symbol, the elephant, was depicted as meandering aimlessly.
Congress seems to be relieved and ready to enjoy sitting in opposition. They were not too perturbed when they lost Delhi.
Kejriwal and AAP have become less visible nowadays. Due to their conflict with media?
BJP has become too aggressive, too ruthless and blind.
Just imagine that stupid har har modi slogan insulting hindu gods.
See the way they are treating veterans and old faithfuls.
Trying to get people like Pramod Muthalik and retracting only when Parriker said no.
BJP has lost the ethical battle by inducting Yeddiurappa and indulging in All is fair in electoral battle.
Rajnath singh and Modi along with Arun Jaitley have become the trio leading BJP into a party with no difference.
And Sharad Pawar is not helping by asking his people to vote twice and erase the ink before voting.
Aamir Khan openly came out about UPA government blindly helping scamsters pouring taxpayers money into its pet schemes like NREGA without checking whether it is reaching the right people or not. There was reference to our PM being silent.
SMJ2 has less emotions and more relaxing style of presentation.
Neta corrupt, babus corrupt. Hum kya doodh ke dhule hue?
Election Commission says ‘NO’ to the gas price hike from 1st April as a response to Arvind Kejriwal’s letter to them asking for the same as it violated the code of conduct of elections.
This in spite of the Reliance spokesperson asking them to ignore AAP’s request.
So now the ball will be in the court of the party that comes to power.
If congress comes to power they will have to revisit this issue and carry it – which will make no difference to present situation.
If BJP comes to power it will have to check on it. To favour Ambani or not, will be the issue. Hahaha Can you imagine the sleepless nights?
If AAP comes to power then Modi knows what will happen.
A discussion of AAP in a top Swiss newspaper.
The heading asks ‘Will they be a deciding factor in any change?’
There is a picture of some leaders including Arvind Kejriwal and workers.
Under the picture the text says, “They want to work for the people and not for their pockets.”
Amitabh, besides being so many thing is also a clairvoyant.
He predicted this so many years ago-
‘AAP’ ka to lagta hai bas yahi sapna
Ram naam japna
Paraya maal apna!
just amazed at this newly opened vadora bus station last month…really lesson to be learnt at managing infrastructure courtesy air india and delhi metro express
The Hinglish lib-turds just can’t believe it!! Here’s Rajdick Sardesai of the eternally-gelled-hair-syndrome-but-hardly- anything-beneath-it literally frothing at the mouth when interviewing the fine M J Akbar, the latest entrant to the BJP. Man, the hate that these guys have is unbelievable. All the right-wing nuts and these lib-turds should be locked up in a room as an experiment..
Rajdeep keeps egging about the switch from Nehruvian worldview to the Modi worldview. Akbar shouldve said that even Nehru in his worst dreams would not have imagined the country to be hijacked by his own progeny. When Nehru died, Indira was not even among the top contenders to the throne. But with cunning and guile, she usurped it after Shastri and kicked out every detractor from the Congress. The Congress split and became Congress(I), ie the Indira Congress Party. The Nehruvian worldview which the likes of Sardesai profess so passionately had ended when the bracketed “I” was added to the name of Congress.
And Akbar very cleverly states that even Mahatma Gandhi talked about Ram Rajya, so why do we even blame the BJP/RSS? Ram Rajya was never a Hindu Kingdom, rather it was a desirable society of equality and justice, without the prejudices of religion. When the Mahatma himself desired it, he was castigated by Jinnah, who subsequently painted Gandhi as a Hindu fascist. Most Pakistanis believe that Gandhi was no better than Modi! And here we are trying to painfully differentiate between the two.
“Akbar shouldve said that even Nehru in his worst dreams would not have imagined the country to be hijacked by his own progeny.”
yes but it does not follow from everything you’ve said in your paragraph and even accepting everything (which I of course don’t) that because a Nehruvian vision has been ‘disappointed’ or co-opted and in ways that would have shocked Nehru, the only way then left is a Modi alternative. In fact one could easily make the claim that no matter how much Indira Gandhi’s excesses would have offended Nehru (I am not fan of her myself) or the extraordinary rise in corruption and so forth (though one must be careful not to define this only as an Indian problem. why is it that ‘corruption’ happens to be a serious issue in just about every ‘third world’ country or newly emergent economy or decolonized nation or… whatever label one prefers? there must be something more structural involved here if it’s a global issue.. it cannot just be that there are ‘dirty’ politicians everywhere!) the Modi alternative would have been absolutely anathema to him much as the whole Hindutva model would have been just about the most alien thing to his thinking (a man for whom even Gandhian religiosity was too much to digest and this when the Gandhian structure was itself very far from any notion of Hindutva in the politically militant sense). Put differently if one is a disappointed Democrat or Republican in the US that by no means implies that one jumps over to the other side. Because the disappointment is about something within one’s field of political allegiance. In other words one might want the Republican side or the Democratic side to ‘fixed’ (depending on one’s position) without wishing to migrate to the other side in the name of ‘efficiency’ or ‘better management’ or what have you. Now for some people who are much more on the fences politically (soft Republicans or soft Democrats.. it’s then a question of what the reigning issue of the day is) this sort of migration might work. It certainly is a phenomenon in every democracy. But in most Western democracies the stakes of the debate are in most historical periods far less sharply etched. It would not have made a huge difference in a structural sense even if Bush Sr had won in 1992. However it would have made for one if Romney had won in 2012. But by and large the Western model tends to be the 1992 one. In India on the other hand it’s usually something between 1992 and 2012 even if it isn’t always 2012.
The question then might be: even accepting all of this what does one do as a practical matter if the choice is between the current Congress and the BJP? For me the choice is a relatively simple one. I would vote for the Congress. Even though I agree with almost all of the criticism directed against them. Why do I submit to this ‘blackmail’? Because I am completely certain looking at not just the historical record but everything that is happening elsewhere around the world today that corruption and cronyism and so on are not problems particular to the Congress. Can things still be better than they are currently on these fronts? Absolutely! But if the price for this difference in degree is to be paid with the kind of toxic politics (in my worldview) that the BJP provides (specially via a messenger like Modi) this trade is unacceptable to me. Much as in 1992 I could fathom a Democrat voting for Bush Sr. That wouldn’t seem to be an unreasonable choice but in 2012 I would consider the same option to be non-existent. Precisely because of what I would consider the extremism of the Republicans on most issues.
So again even if I agree with you on everything with respect to your critique of Congress I still cannot subscribe to this fantasy of a BJP in power where all these ills magically vanish because Modi is a great administrator (assuming there’s no debate on this.. also something I don’t accept in an uncomplicated sense as I’ve gotten into before). There are always tradeoffs in politics. It might make me queasy to vote for this Congress and reward them in any sense but voting for the BJP would make me sicker still!
Unfortunately, 5 more years of Congress with Rahul at the helm will result in a far far worse result than your most pessimistic apprehensions about a BJP/Modi rule.What will be the worst case scenario of a Modi govt? That the hole we are already in, will only get dug deeper. It surely cannot be deeper than what the Congress will anyway dig. So why give them a chance. A party with pitiable little to show for over the past 10 yrs cannot be given another 5 years to push us deeper into the abyss. If the BJP does the same, so be it, at least we wouldve tried and failed, rather than not tried an alternative at all.
I don’t actually have a pessimistic prediction here. I just don’t believe you get these sea-changes in areas that seem to be important to you (corruption et al) because these are structural ones. They don’t happen at the level of individuals. I also think that it’s rather naive to believe that if a system incentivizes corruption that one party would simply not engage in it! In the US Congress I don’t believe the Republicans are more corrupt in any essential sense even if I might not ideologically favor them. Or put differently there is an institutional corruption in American politics where both parties are quite happy to partake of it. You go to countries like Italy or Japan and every other party PM is implicated in a corruption scandal or worse. In the rest of the world similarly these issues occur on an epic scale. How is it then possible to believe that a BJP govt will represent a sea change? Are there differences in degree? Sure. But I don’t believe the difference in degree occurs at the kind of magnitude you’re thinking of. On the rest I talked about ideological differences that have to be part of the mix. So yes corruption might be no worse or even better under the BJP and given ten years it might not seem like a huge thing at this level but there will be other things that are. For instance the rewriting of history books and other kinds of textbooks to represent the worst kinds of ideologies and in ways that have nothing to do with a science (social or natural or otherwise). The BJP has already done this in states they’ve controlled at different levels. Much as in the US in states like TX ‘Creationism’ is taught as an alternative. Here it’s about basic protocols being reflected at the level of education. These are not inessential things. Whatever one’s beliefs one hopes that a school does not teach the Big Bang theory alongside an Adam and Eve one as comparable ‘theories’! There are all sorts of other essential things like social issues, constitutional issues, minority issues etc. So it’s not as if ten years doesn’t make a difference!
The really amusing thing here is to a) find people who sometimes consider the Republican party (US) more harmful than the BJP! b) people who are otherwise very devoted to ideals of science and verifiability (almost to a fault) and various other freedoms indispensable in a US context and suddenly consider these very things expendable when it comes to India.
‘Corruption’ is a serious issue but one has to understand it in more serious ways. Beyond this corruption has always been the pet obsession of bourgeois classes in the subcontinent. Along with ‘efficient administration’. It’s not just in the subcontinent but really something common the world over. This is precisely what always opens the door to fascism. The fascist always promises both (efficiency, economic gains) and at least for a while delivers on them. The middle classes are willing to trade any value and any principle (I only exaggerate a little) as long as they can get trains running on time and less corruption! These things are important. I am hardly sneering at good administration. But there are things in life that are more important and of course ‘good administration’ itself should be understood more expansively. I’m not going to stir up a different debate here.
Mehnat modi aur unke group kare aur phal khaaye the likes of late entrants like M.J.Akbar. What prevented him from joining one year ago? When tiger or lion makes a kill, the jackals and vultures wait for some part.
Rather, mehnat (ie development and governance) kar-kar-karke apne gireybaan se daag mitaye hain, to jo log shak kartey they, woh is mehnat ka nateeja dekhkar dheerey dheerey Modi ke paas aa rahe hain.
One, it excludes the very possibility of “right-liberal” and “left conservative” identities (E.g.: Why can I not be a supporter of free markets but not of hard-core cultural nationalism?)
Two, it assumes identity is a rigid, inflexible unchangeable concept – you are either “this” or “that” and changing stand from one side to the other is considered no less then heresy (E.g.: A politician defecting from the INC to the BJP is automatically labelled “communal”)
Three, it assumes that political parties and their supporters can be neatly categories in one of only two pre-defined and inflexible ideological camps (E.g.: The Congress and AAP folks or left liberal and BJP / NDA brigade is right conservative).
Such rigid categorisation of concepts like identity and ideology not only oversimplifies what is a fairly complex matter but also leads one to pass generalised black and white statements such as this famous one by George W Bush “You are either with us or against us”… which begs the question “What if I am neither” http://centreright.in/2014/03/the-rise-of-the-right-liberal-indian/#.UzSqv8tOXIV
Could one be a supporter of a Republican just for his or her economics and ask him or her to keep the Christian fundamentalism at home? Life sadly is not quite as simple as this..
First, it is myopic to view Modi’s journey only from the prism of his prime ministerial ambitions. Modi has relentlessly pursued the halo of a development oriented leader right from aftermath of the Gujarat riots of 2002. He has been clear in his mind that only this metamorphosis could help him escape the ignominy of 2002. Yes, there has been the usual segues in the ‘Miyan Musharraf’ kind of rhetoric but it has never been the major plank of Modi’s electoral pitch. Never to shy away from a fight, Modi has responded to the jab of his ‘secular’ opponents, but his overt political argument has always been a mixture of development with an appeal to Gujarati regional pride. The critics may dismiss this as the magic of public relations or attribute it to solely to the devilish APCO but a politician can hardly be blamed for embellishing his own role in his state’s march towards prosperity. In that sense, Modi’s campaign has been a continuation of his Gujarat politics over the last two election cycles: The primary appeal has been development backed by personal braggadocio. Those who expected his campaign to focus solely on Ayodhya or the usual Hindutva arguments severely underestimate the craftiness and intelligence of Modi the politician. His arguments may not be couched in the flowery language which pleases the permanent inhabitants of the Indian International Center but Modi is clearly one of the most talented politicians of his generation.
Second, Modi enjoys one tremendous advantage over the likes of Advani or his other rivals within the BJP. Among his core supporters, there are no apprehensions about his true ideological beliefs. Modi has little to gain from employing overtly divisive rhetoric because those who would vote for him because he is perceived as the Hindutva icon are already firmly in his camp. And yet, he has been careful not to cross the red lines which may signify a tectonic ideological shift—for instance, he has expressly refused to apologize for the Gujarat riots or admitted the slightest sense of guilt. It is a careful balancing act but the rest test awaits Prime Minister Modi: Managing his more fervid supporters would perhaps be his greatest challenge. http://retributions.nationalinterest.in/modi-the-moderate/
The argument is far more subtle. The core Modi supporters believe that Muslims are a pampered lot who run amok in the name of secularism and disproportionately influence the political discourse to the detriment of the more numerical but hopelessly divided Hindus. The principal idea here is to make the Muslims realize their place in the society. And once they are cognizant of their diminished influence, there would neither be any need for violence or any display of overt religiosity. In other words: the silence of the graveyard.
Hindutva in this narrative is at the very least guilty of ‘mathematical imbecility’ if nothing else! Much as the Jews were running Europe. These groups change in different situations but somehow the minority is really running the show and the overwhelming majority is just having to put up with it! On the rest I actually agree with this account of what the Modi supporters or the Hindutva brigade stands for. This is the problem. It’s terrifying! of course I could once again change Jews for Muslims and so on and without changing a word everything could be applied to Nazi Germany. People tend to be offended when I keep drawing this analogy but why not check out the relevant literature?! and of course the infatuation with fascism, even Hitler is hardly a secret in many Hindutva ranks. There’s a reason why the RSS youth exercises are modeled on those of the SS.
of course the real sign of culture and civilization in my book isn’t about who supports the congress and who the BJP but who likes Manmohan Desai! And the true Desai lover would always know where not to stray! Ha!
this is a crazy kind of logic.. using my favorite Hitler example it would be a bit like saying.. his anti-Semitism is completely genuine as are his other positions.. there are no doubts here.. we can trust him!
Islam is a close corporation and the distinction that it makes between Muslims and non-Muslims is a very real, very positive and very alienating distinction. The brotherhood of Islam is not the universal brotherhood of man. It is brotherhood of Muslims for Muslims only. There is a fraternity but its benefit is confined to those within that corporation. For those who are outside the corporation, there is nothing but contempt and enmity” – This was not Savarkar or Golwalkar. This was Ambedkar in his book “Pakistan or The Partition of India”.
Ambedkar also makes the same point that Varshney objects to in Savarkar’s arguments, namely their loyalty. “Islam is a system of social self-government and is incompatible with local self-government, because the allegiance of a Muslim does not rest on his domicile in the country which is his but on the faith to which he belongs. To the Muslim, wherever there is the rule of Islam, there is his own country. In other words, Islam can never allow a true Muslim to adopt India as his motherland and regard a Hindu as his kith and kin”, he says. http://ram-madhav.blogspot.in/2014/03/rejoinder-to-ashutosh-varshney.html?spref=tw
These observations really do not apply to contemporary Islam. The wealthy GCC Arabs are distinct (even from one another), and they keep everyone else at an arms length.They have a clear pyramidal structure, in which the Royals are at the top, and the only empathy they have for their less fortunate Muslim brethren is exercised by a few gifts/alms (khairat). However, they will never let the sub-continental muslims have a place on the table. So Bush or Prince Charles can be invited to traditional tribal dances by the Saudis, but you will never see a Pakistani President been given that honor.
The sooner that the sub-continental less fortunate ones realize this, the faster they will all start assuming their own national identities.
I frequently hear commentary in the sub-continent that thanks the Almighty for the oil bounty bestowed upon Islam. They talk as if the Saudis are writing checks for every Muslim in the sub-continent. These commentators would be thrown in a desert jail if they even dared to express the same opinions while in the GCC. However, ignorant people buy such yarns at their own detriment.
I think he does not want to be associated with any political party.
If he associates with aap publicly, it will do more harm to aap as it will polarise votes. and there will be backlash for aamir.
He allegedly said that he will lend his support to aap if it performs well in the polls.
Induction of expelled JD(U) leader Sabir Ali on Friday triggered angry protest within BJP, with senior leader Mukhtar Abbas Naqvi terming him as a “friend” of Indian Mujahideen chief Yasin Bhatkal and mocking that Dawood Ibrahim could be the next entrant.
“Terrorist Bhatakal friend join BJP…soon accepting dawood………,” Naqvi tweeted, hours after Ali was inducted into the party with much fanfare as it was seen as a boost to the BJP’s attempts to attract Muslims.
Terrorist Bhatakal friend join BJP…soon accepting dawood………
— Mukhtar Abbas Naqvi (@naqvimukhtar) March 28, 2014
Naqvi, a muslim face and Vice President of the party, said he will convey his protest to the BJP leadership.
Justifying his opposition to the induction, he alleged that Bhatkal was arrested from Ali’s Mumbai residence some time ago.
He also alleged that Ali’s name had figured in the murder case of noted music magnate Gulshan Kumar.
The fresh controversy comes days after the one over induction of Sri Ram Sene chief Pramod Muthalik in Karnataka. The entry was scrapped within hours after strong criticism from both within and outside the party as Muthalik had been involved in attack on women in pubs few years back.
But seriously, I have never seen a party cause so much fear among opposing forces. So either they are choosing not to contest or are just quitting their positions and joining the bandwagon. The ground reality might indeed be giving indications of a massive wave in the next few weeks.
“What will be the worst case scenario of a Modi govt? That the hole we are already in, will only get dug deeper. It surely cannot be deeper than what the Congress will anyway dig. So why give them a chance. A party with pitiable little to show for over the past 10 yrs cannot be given another 5 years to push us deeper into the abyss. If the BJP does the same, so be it, at least we wouldve tried and failed, rather than not tried an alternative at all…”
Very well said and this itself begs for change of guard. Except Kejriwal and to an extent Nitish Kumar, have not seen any valid opposition to Modi since alternatives in Mulayam, Mayawati etc are worse off.
Time is also ripe for the Hindutva forces to have one more shot at the helm and satisfy themselves for wanting to change the nation. The only minus here is it will hurt a bit more since desh ke naam par chori hogee. BJP should seriously throw Nitin Gadkari kind of people from the party but the opposite is happening with inclusion of Paswan etc ….there is chor written on his face like what we feel when we see sharad pawar.
As far as the chor-participants, there will be no difference as compared to any govt of the past 40 yrs. The only diff being that the guy at the top (ie Modi) is hellbent on creating a legacy for himself, as a sort of savior of India, who took India into the exalted league of nations. He will break the back of anyone who opposes that march, and will ensure that all this kachra-pati crowd is controlled.
We do need Kejriwal to always keep irritating these chors and holding their feet to the fire, but a Modi is needed to jumpstart the reforms/development process all over again.
Agree on all points there and it’s definitely worth a try.
But in India there is a very important factor if I can’t have it, neither can you and the
crab mentality will not let him survive. India is such a diverse nation and unless he comes across a universal leader, it’s very difficult to sustain and be productive. I imagined Advani all this at one time , but look where he is today !
The plus here is that he has support of the big money, the Ambanis and the business houses and if they selflessly wish well for the nation then we do have hope.
Further I am a bit skeptical if a free hand is given to Modi, where you have a concentration of power in a few hands, all too frequently men with the mentality of gangsters get control. History has proven that.
Again, the diff here is that this guy is a loner, with no one else to hand over the reins to. His own brother criticizes him, all he wants to do is prove that he is the next Kamal Ataturk or Deng Xiaoping. He has no other agenda, but to have praises showered on him for the developmental work he can do. There is no doubt that corruption will not stop, and a lot of development will go to crony capitalists. But at least there will be development, there will be infrastructure construction, roads, electricity, etc. The Cong was only busy lining its own pockets without any of these things. They built a few airports and started thinking that they have done it all. That’s not how it is done.
Thoda khao, thoda pheko. Congress sirf khata gaya. Modi kuch bhi nahi khata, kaam karta hai, aur thodasa phekta bhi hai. But he achieves a 100 and hypes it to 1000, where Cong could not even achieve 10.
The way BJP is compromising to get that majority shows that they will be happy as long as they will get power by hook or crook and even modi cant do anything drastic as states will oppose everything in the name of federalism as modi himself did with Lokayukta.. Modi has no vision for India. He is like a frog in the well thinking if he can win gujarat, he can win India. We will have the same type of rule when Vajpayee was the PM. But with more corruption as corruption has come to stay. there will be no change. Kashmir problem, naxalism, arunachal pradesh will be there. And FDI will evoke much controversy. Congress will enjoy repeating what BJP did to the congress. Not allowing parliament to function. Role reversal.
Mr Kejriwal was slapped on the neck while he was campaigning in the Dakshinpuri area of south Delhi ahead of the national election from next week. He was in an open jeep when a man caught hold of his sleeve and hit him.
He turned out to be a muslim man living in old delhi. The least likely to be a BJP supporter, rather a paid AAP agent getting free publicity for Kejri.
After Kejri’s outburst against the media, even his own supporters in the media have started ignoring his rallies and statements. All these fabricated events have been done to keep his presence on TV going, but by now everyone has already figured him out. Actually, everyone is relieved that they not have a permanent Kejri countenance burnt on their TV screens.
I feel really bad, this was one honest guy who just did not know the essential ‘chanakya-neeti’ of Indian Politics. He lost his way spectacularly in this muck, and possibly will drown in it. Hopefully he will learn from his errors and misjudgements, and concentrate on what really needs to be done to fix the system. First and foremost, please cut down on all the dramabaazi and actually deliver something worthy.
Second, avoid the hardcore leftists in his group who advise him to freely distribute doles/sops without balancing the books. He really needs to embrace people who actually want to work to earn a living and pay their bills on time.
Start with these two suggestions, and you will see how all the AAP support comes roaring back.
People don’t understand when they ask people to do things. People are asking to stop using Firefox but they also don’t know that he developed javascript as well. So by definition they should stop using internet (Most browsers use it)?
ps – Think if K&R (Developer of C) had said or done something like this. Most of the things we use have some form of usage of it. They literally have to go to stone age.
LOL! Really amusing to see Modi detractors clutching at straws.
There is still a section of media that is trying valiantly but unsuccessfully to thwart Modi and put road blocks in front of this juggernaut.
Modi is our next PM. You can take it to the bank. More importantly be smart, respect the interests of India as a nation,be honest and abondon the stances dictated by well intentioned but confused and self defeating liberal ideology! This is a common pitfall for extremists on both sides of the argument. Sometimes they fall so much in love with their argument that they get deluded and incapable of seeing the truth staring them in the face. The conservative right in the US and the left leaning liberals of Indian origin are both similar in this respect. They would actually prefer the corrupt,immoral Congress led alliance over BJP or empower this idiot Kejri to siphon off some vote from BJP. But this self righteous, pious-only-in-their-minds ideology is destructive. Unfortunately for them, this time the Modi tsunami is going to crash their fond hopes.
I hope there is enough egg around to cover all their faces!
Seems likelier now, especially since the Congress’ pet votebank (ie Muslims voting as a single block) has been broken apart by Kejri. Congress-AAP will split the Muslim votes, and they will indirectly help BJP. All this time, the Congress was silent on Kejri, now suddenly after realizing the bigger picture, they have started calling AAP as the B Team of BJP!
The fear is so great that even ticketed candidates of the Congress are jumping ship and heading to the BJP.
anna hazare and kejriwal aid vk singh is in bjp, kiran bedi is in bjp to above i won’t embarass on how kejriwal praised a certain modi before election of delhi…shree 420
BJP may run out of their money by the time this election ends, considering how they are spending, but if the nation can bear the heavy weight of the immense wealth lost in scams then it can well bear this.
ha ha, ya this winter in Chicago was brutal, batteries of both of my cars died on me, my garage door would not open, it took me almost 2.5 hours to get to work on 2-3 occasions.
Phat key haath mein aa gayee !!!
“ I wish we were all mature enough to see that irrespective of who you support, there are realities about our leadership that can be recognized, and should be questioned. I wish you could see that you getting behind a candidate does not suddenly make that candidate infallible. I wish you knew that spewing hatred and abuse towards people who support opposing candidates or parties only makes your candidate seem weaker and your whole ideology seem false.”
Very nicely written and very relevant to the Indian thinking in general.
Why SP is behaving like a regressive party? Mulayam’s comment and then Abu Azmi’s comment. So they want votes in this way?
Muthalik also airs similar views.
Supreme Court in a subtle way is making hanging obsolete even for Nirbhaya’s rapists. Maybe this is encouraging people like Mulayam to make outrageous statements.
Hope Supreme Court makes its stand clear and put an end to all this once and for all.
The other day I was taking some Xerox copies at a centre and casually asked the owner which party he is voting for. He said not NCP but Sharad Pawar’s Party. This time personalities are taking over parties.
Modi, Rahul, Kejriwal, Sharad Pawar, Mulayam, Mayawati, Jayalalitha, Mamata have become larger than their respective parties.
Subramanian Swamy has declared that he would move the Supreme Court against the verdict, saying, “The verdict was delivered, based on an incomplete law.” Swamy said the age of the juvenile should be lowered. Magsaysay Award winner and country’s first woman IPS officer Kiran Bedi insisted that the juvenile should be lodged in Tihar Jail in the Capital and not sent to remand home. Kiran Bedi said grave crimes like rape and murder were committed. Referring to generational change, adolescents now are committing crimes consciously and taking advantage of their age, which is why, she argued, law must be changed. Society is changing and maturity levels are changing and so the law must also change, she said.
Nissim Mannathukkaren makes all the ‘sane’ points in the Modi debate. But all the hyperlinks should also be accessed here to get the complete contours of the debate.
I would in any case be soft on anyone guided by Derridean thought (!) but the author displays a certain theoretical sophistication by virtue of this background that is rare in journalism, whether in India or otherwise. There is very little one could add in this sense.
I should add in a Zizekian vein though that only those who want to seriously ‘read’ should engage with these pieces. for the rest it’s a dangerous enterprise!
and even for those who don’t want to get into all the hyperlinks just the same author’s earlier ‘Banality of Evil’ piece should be instructive for the eye-opening facts on Gujarat’s ‘development’.
[Many on the Right have this triumphant tone about how irrespective of any debate Modi is going to win. As if victory somehow settles all such questions. Of course what does victory mean anyway? Beginning with Hitler modern history is littered with fascists who won elections. So what?! If anything we should know by now that the bourgeois classes are willing to give up on any value and principle as long as they are promised good roads and the trains running on time! It will be a tragic day for India if Modi wins as seems quite likely, a day of national shame as far as I’m concerned. A sober reminder of the distance this nation-state has traveled from Nehru’s foundational moment. But one should not be totally surprised either. We see the signs of this ‘degradation’ in the culture at various levels. And here I will draw a provocative link between Hindi cinema as it once was and ‘Bollywood’ today. It is only in the age of ‘Bollywood’ that Modi’s election becomes possible in any sense. When Ganga Ki saugandh was running in the theaters this possibility was foreclosed! which doesn’t mean that authoritarianism on the left wasn’t possible or that it did not have its own dark moments or excessive history. Cinema is a symptom of the larger societal fold as much as anything else. Even in a privileged sense. The unfortunate thing is that even ‘good liberals’ are usually the last ones in on the joke. In more ways than one.]
what will a one trick pony keep harping the same taperecorder…
for record kishwar was the one of the top left leaning historicians who wrote in favour of modi refuting most garbage
honest debate require facts and knowledge not rheotric andc selective amnesia and outlook, tehelka and cobrapost are what known to people with slight bit of intellect
Rockstar the piece you put is the one I just referenced. Not sure why you put it up again. Secondly when you put up links, use extracts, don’t put up super-long pieces along with the links.
didn’t saw the whole bit…my context was to show you how after a while even left liberal are responding to it imagine a known critic later wrote modinama
question to be asked in lok sabha gandhi’s are elected from u.p, ajit singh the strong jata leader happened to be aviation minister and mulayam’s party is giving support still muzaffnagar happens
mms get elected from assam in rajya sabha and what happened is worst than these so called programs and its not 02 but 13-14…
The ignorant and illiterate allegations of the BJP person against AAP candidate from Karnataka has been answered by the AAP of Karnataka.
AAP Karnataka Press Release dated 14.04,2014
BJP leader Sri. Subramanian Swamy has launched a reckless attack, in a jittery state, against the AAP Bangalore South Candidate, Smt. Nina Nayak on his Facebook page on 14/4/2014, making wholly false, illegal & defamatory allegations the candidate. He has dedicated a separate creative banner post on the Facebook page against her.
Though one isn’t surprised about the person & the party that are making these allegations, only because there have been deliberate & deceitful misrepresentation of law & facts, this clarification is being issued. This is intended to bring light upon a very misunderstood but most important law relating to children in this country, namely, The Juvenile Justice Act 2000. This Act was brought into force by Indian parliament after India became signatory to the landmark International Treaty ie, The United Nations’ Convention on The Rights of Child (UNCRC). The UNCRC prescribed that any person upto the age of 18 would be considered as a “child’. In compliance with the UNCRC, the Indian Juvenile Justice Act of 2000 also fixed the age of 18 as the age upto which every person in India would be considered as a child.
After the unfortunate Nirbhaya gangrape incident in Delhi, there arose a raging debate on lowering the age from 18 yrs to 16 yrs in the definition of ‘child’. Also, whether those between 16 and 18 years should be dealt with by the regular criminal courts or juvenile boards was a point in question. These contentious issues were deliberated before the Hon’ble Supreme Court as well. The SC in an important judgement (Salil Bali vs. Union of India decided on 17th July 2013) upheld the fixing of age of a child at 18 yrs and also giving separate treatment to children in juvenile boards and not in regular adult criminal courts. Thereafter, the most recent judgement of 3 Judge bench (Dr. Subramanian Swamy v/s Raju Thr. Member, Juvenile Justice Board) headed by CJI P Sathasivam also decided on March 28th 2014 that under international law and Indian law, there is no scope for lowering the age of “constitutionally permissible” fixation upto 18 yrs to define a child..
Very curiously, the person who is indulging in launching the highly defamatory attacks against Smt Nina Nayak was himself an appellant before the SC in which the SC categorically stated: “…we deem it appropriate to part with the cases by dismissing the appeal filed by Dr Subramanian Swamy …”.
When the law says that a child has to be tried under the separate juvenile legal system and not in the regular adult criminal courts, if anyone, whether a member of National Child Rights Commission or a citizen respects the law settled by two recent judgments of the Supreme Court, one would be saying and doing what was and is legal and truthful.
But BJP is so nervous they’ll go to any lengths to put their Modi in that chair.
Throwing stones at women holding rally beating a candidate with rods being the latest.
They should talk about their Modi’s so called Fake clean chit first. So dumb. They can’t see the difference between a woman whose social work is among children, and was speaking about what the law demands rather than claiming the juvenile to be innocent. And this party which such leaders want to lead the nation? Where to?
common analysis of link indicates it was swamy who went against law and now everyone know what she said a link of her on national television is given below :
why to crucify a juvenile one has to look at his background before issuing justice ( its not acceptable when one put rod in female private part )
NEW DELHI: State-run Oil and Natural Gas Corp (ONGC) has told the government that gas production from some of its deep-sea fields would be viable only at prices of up to nearly $13 per unit, far more than the controversial price of about $8.4 that Reliance Industries would have charged from April 1 if poll authorities had not vetoed it.
It has asked for prices of $10.72 to $12.63 for two blocks in the Mahanadi basin, close to RIL’s KG-D6 block, where gas has been sold at $4.2 since 2009. The government had approved a new formula in June 2013 that would have nearly doubled the rates but it could not implement it because the election code of conduct was enforced before the oil ministry could collected the necessary data to calculate the new price. The new price also faced strong opposition from the Aam Aadmi Party, which has made it an election issue.
“The company may have to put its plan to develop these discoveries on hold till gas prices are raised between $11 and $13 per unit,” an ONGC executive said, requesting anonymity.
Officials in the Directorate General of Hydrocarbons (DGH) confirmed that ONGC had sought higher prices for gas coming out of the two blocks. “ONGC has sought the help of the government because the project can give an IRR (internal rate of return) of 14% only if gas is priced at $10.72-12.63 per unit,” said a DGH official who did not wish to be named.
ONGC and oil ministry did not respond to email queries from ET. According to government officials and company executives, ONGC’s Mahanadi project would not be viable even at the $8.40 per unit rate. “But, the new pricing formula is dynamic and changes every quarter. Sooner rather than later these discoveries would be commercially viable. Until then we have to wait,” the executive said.
I am in two minds. Is Modi as dangerous as he sounds? What his followers want actually? Modi rule where hindus will get priority, ban on cow slaughter, vande mataram, hindu way of life, jail for critics, persecution etc. Or is it that they hate congress and they just want to throw congress party and rule the same way practising practical secularism, pragmatism etc.?
Or there is the possibility of third front supported by the congress party.
on record subramaniam swamy is the man responsible for opening up various scam including 2g single handedly on court and currently india’s biggest whistle blower
MUMBAI: The Hindi film industry, which prides itself on its secular image, appears to be taking sides for the first time during this Lok Sabha elections with some Bollywood “A-listers” asking people to vote “strategically” to protect the country’s secular character.
The collective appeal, brainchild of writer Anjum Rajabali and endorsed by several Bollywood bigwigs, says though corruption and governance are “important issues” the country’s secular character is “not negotiable”.
“While corruption and governance are important issues and we have to work out ways of holding our government accountable, India’s secular character is not negotiable,” the appeal says, asking people to “vote strategically to protect country’s secular character”.
Several celebrities including filmmakers Mahesh Bhatt, Imtiaz Ali, Zoya Akhtar, Vishal Bharadwaj, Kabir Khan, singer Shubha Mudgal and “Dhoom 3” director Vijay Krishna Acharya are signatories to the appeal which appeared to have divided Bollywood.
BJP’s prime ministerial contender Narendra Modi is the butt of Congress’s unrelenting tirade over the Gujarat riots during the do-or-die election campaign with the issue of secularism dominating their discourse.
Rajabali, however, insists the celebrities have not appealed to the electors to vote for a particular party or person or taking sides.
“We are not asking or appealing to people to vote for a particular party or person, we are just saying vote for a person or party that is secular. We are not taking sides. Secularism is an important factor. It is the central character of our Indian society. We are appealing to people to keep this in mind while voting,” he told PTI.
“It is not what we meant (anti-modi and pro-Congress), that is not the interpretation. We are appealing to people to vote for someone who is secular. Though majority of people in this country are Hindus but there are Muslims, Parsis, Christians and others as well. So one (party or person) should take care of everyone,” veteran filmmaker Mahesh Bhatt said.
“We film people are citizens of this country and we are appealing to people to vote for the right person. If the BJP or anyone for that matter supports secularism I am with them. The idea of India is to protect everyone politically, economically and socially,” he said.
The initiative by Rajabali and others, however, has not gone down well with many in Bollywood.
“Shocking to see some colleagues, under garb of stopping so-called divisive forces, are themselves dividing a secular place like Bollywood,” filmmaker Madhur Bhandarkar said on Twitter.
“Launching a personal attack on a man who has done more for his state than any other leader, reeks of conspiracy & unwarranted paranoia. Let’s hope better sense prevails and our film industry elects @narendramodi with a thumping majority. It’s time India got a visionary leader,” he said.
Kanchan Gupta @KanchanGupta · 5h
Among the list of ’eminent’ Bollywoodians who have signed petition against voting for NM is an interesting name: Fraudster Teesta Setalvad
ek sey badh kar ek oots in that list …….
VivekAgnihotri @vivekagnihotri · 4h
2 interesting phenomenon. 1. Most of non-Muslim Modi haters are English speaking urban elite. 2. Most don’t know why Modi was banned in US.
Ravi Rai @Raviravirai · 56m
Mr.Rajabali does secular means ‘I don’t follow the law of India’, not singing the national anthem, burning the national flag
Ravi Rai @Raviravirai · 40m
Mr. Rajabali, overbearing of communalism is not secularism
Ravi Rai @Raviravirai · 37m
Mr.Imams, Azam khan, Owaisi brothers, imran masood wear a Gandhi topi and a dushala. .Come on show us you are secular
Ravi Rai @Raviravirai · 1h
Till today we were proud that our film industry was apolitical. Now Anjum Rajabali wants to politicise it by teaching us what is secular
Tusshar @TusshKapoor · 11h
To cover up for corruption & bad governance, the ‘secular’ card is being stretched a bit too far! No party can claim the secular prize!
Tusshar @TusshKapoor · 10h
Also, if development seems to be the mantra for the 2014 polls then that is what Indians, irrespective of religion, need & have waited for!
Tusshar @TusshKapoor · 10h
Its shameful that some from my fraternity have forgotten the basic needs of the poor, rather they’re trying to ‘save India’! From what????
INTELLECTUAL GENOCIDE
The new fad amongst drawing room activist is to propagate secularism and discard communalism… Under normal intentions it would be a noble thought but the veiled propaganda makes the entire scheme not only look fishy but also reeks of manipulation and vindictiveness towards a targeted group. Especially in this election season it has become a fashion to target the burgeoning popularity of Modi. He has come to stand as a clear line of distinction between the noble and the vested interest groups.
Today in Mumbai Mirror I came across an article that says that a group has been founded by supposed like minded people from the Film Industry to go and vote for secular candidates and party. This kind of movement like propaganda has never been seen in the Hindi film industry. There have been several elections but the Bollywood fraternity never seemed to have bothered about campaigning for an “electoral cause”. What is strange is that this group who boasts of their secular agenda never raised a voice against the systematic cleansing of Sikhs in 1984, Kashmiri Pandit in 1990, Assam Riots in 2013 …. They have never raised or propagated their worries for parties like Samajwadi, Congress or any other political outfits known for their clear minority appeasing politics…. but all their veiled concerns are very much directed towards one party one man. If you feel so strongly against something one should have the spine to stand up and name the concern.
People like Mahesh Bhat, Nandita Das have always been known to have singular apprehension for Modi and their heart bleeds, vocal cord opens only when it is about Modi… Bhat sahab’s family danced merry on the bleeding grounds of Muzzaffarnagar when the riot victims were freezing in open grounds… He went to Gujarat but never bothered to visit the riots victims of UP… May be because Modi’s name was not part of the rioter roaster.
Maximum communal riots have happened in Congress ruled states and era but I have never seen Anjum Rajabali or a Nandita Das show their concern and pain for these riot victims… or is it that only these people hearts bleed if it is the victims of Gujarat of 2002… If the hatred and disdain is so strong… come out in the open and condone. One should take a leaf from super personalities like Rajnikant who had the spine to stand up and give a voice his convictions opens about Modi.
Film industry as a body has never been a divisive force but such vested voices can cause an unnecessary divide. No other industry in this country understands the feeling of secularism than the industry wallahs… A stalwart like Salim Khan who though belongs from a minority… celebrates Christmas, Diwali, Ganpati in the same fervour that he celebrates Id with. This man had the guts to stand up and say that he is secular and supports Modi… He did not go around beating round the bush. If you believe in something don’t shroud your voice with hypocrisy…. your vested interests can’t be veiled in the veil of concern…
The way this entire agenda sounds like if you are a Modi supporter than you are not a secular. This is way beyond humiliating not only for film personalities but also millions of Indians who are gathering to vote for this man to come to power…. This vested group propaganda is like that of the Germans … all that they don’t understand…. stand to be wrong…. and so it be condoned in disdain and annihilation… This is nothing less than an Intellectual Genocide.
If you are not a modi supporter, you are called a traitor, anti national, congress stooge etc. etc. Equating modi with the nation is really an agenda so that they can brand anti modiists as anti national.
In a letter to the Secretary, Ministry of Corporate Affairs, Subramanian Swamy pointed out that as per the Ministry’s own website, Priyanka Vadra had applied for and duly received three DIN numbers. These include 01038703, 01840144 and 02914391 – which is a violation of the Company Act and the Income Tax Act. Interestingly, Robert Vadra’s mother Maureen Vadra has also been allotted two DIN numbers – 01840680 and 01839769.
ection 155 of Companies Act 2013 prohibits any person have having more than one DIN. It says: No individual, who has already been allotted a Director Identification Number under section 154, shall apply for, obtain or possess another Director Identification Number.
The situation was the same under Section 266C of the old Companies Act 1956, and is thus an established legal principle, which fact would have been known to the family chartered accountants.
Section 159 of the Act posits six months imprisonment and a fine up to Rs 50,000, plus a fine of Rs 500 per day. It reads:
If any individual or director of a company, contravenes any of the provisions of section 152, section 155 and section 156, such individual or director of the company shall be punishable with imprisonment for a term which may extend to six months or with fine which may extend to fifty thousand rupees and where the contravention is a continuing one, with a further fine which may extend to five hundred rupees for every day after the first during which the contravention continues.
Section 152 (3) of the Act specifies that no person can be appointed as a director of a company unless he has been allotted a Director Identification Number under section 154. Clause 4 asserts that a person appointed as a director must furnish his Director Identification Number (DIN) along with a declaration that he/she is not disqualified to become a director under this Act. Clause 5 states that no person can act as a director unless he gives his consent to hold the office as director and such consent has been filed with the Registrar within thirty days of appointment in a prescribed manner.
Section 155 explicitly states:
No individual, who has already been allotted a Director Identification Number under section 154, shall apply for, obtain or possess another Director Identification Number.
Section 156 reads:
Every existing director shall, within one month of the receipt of Director Identification Number from the Central Government, intimate his Director Identification Number to the company or all companies wherein he is a director.
It may be pointed out that Robert Vadra, a promoter director in 12 firms, has only one DIN number and his colleague, Amit Mehta, a director in seven firms, also has only one DIN number. Hence there must be some reason for Priyanka Gandhi seeking and receiving three DIN numbers, and an enquiry into the matter is clearly warranted. While it is fair to state that she would be unaware of the nitty gritty of the law, the excuse cannot extend to the corporate lawyers and chartered accountants who would have assisted her in the matter.
This is a direct embarrassment for the Gandhi family, which cannot be wished away easily. It comes amidst the hottest contested general election since 1977, and comes close on the heels of allegations of a nexus between six new firms floated by Robert Vadra in 2012 and the realty major DLF, after an executive of the Group, Amit Mehta, gave the corporate email id as his email id in the relevant papers submitted to the Government. DLF has since distanced itself from the employee, who is a Director in five of the new firms floated by Robert Vadra.
The Ministry of Corporate Affairs lists Priyanka Gandhi Vadra as a Director, with Active status in her husband’s company Blue Breeze Trading Private Limited, incorporated in November 2007, though she is said to have resigned as per information with the RoC, after getting hints about approaching controversies. She was also a Director in Rahul Gandhi’s Backops Services Ltd, which was closed down following media attention into its projects and income.
An enquiry into Priyanka Vadra possessing three DIN numbers is serious because it raises the possibility of her involvement in businesses that do not reflect on the Ministry’s website.
February 15, 2014 at 1:05 PM
I’ve opened up a new thread. I am going to say this once again. the problem isn’t with political discussions but beating the same point to death. The political stuff shouldn’t drown out everything else. Similarly a 100 responses are not needed for every comment one doesn’t agree with. those who are primarily interested in political discussion might find their interests better served elsewhere.
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February 15, 2014 at 2:50 PM
My primary interest in this matter is indeed served better elsewhere. In fact I heaved a sigh of relief when I found out the thread was closed.
I find myself in a fix here. I prefer not to discuss with opposing party supporters, (which is always BJP, because congress seems to have no supporters online, and there are so many of BJP on AAP pages, blog, fb etc) because they get very personal and abusive.
On the other hand I feel disloyal if one sided stories come up, and I don’t post the other side.
So I’ve decided not to comment on people’s views and opinion. Only when some information is wrongly portrayed, I’ll feel compelled to write it as it is.
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February 15, 2014 at 8:24 PM
OG, sometimes the problem is that on the other side you might have someone who will refuse to stop till he or she has the last word. And/or will keep going as long as necessary. if an argument is not about persuasion and debate even in the minimal sense and simply about each side repeating the same things over and over again it’s perhaps time to move on, either in terms of that subject or with a certain interlocutor. You should certainly participate in political discussions if these interest you. But in some cases ‘setting the record straight’ though it might be a reasonable objective will not get you very far if it hasn’t the first 68 times! Again the point I’m trying to make is you can keep discussing AAP or whatever interests you without necessarily falling in such a trap.
I actually used to debate folks quite vigorously myself at points. Not all the time but when I got into a discussion often I would have a lot to say. Eventually I realized I had said everything I needed to on a topic. If people still kept saying the same stuff again and again I certainly could better use my time elsewhere. Now I never thought that everyone should accept my side of things. I am never into this sort of ‘conversion’ program. However any ‘debate’ to be even minimally possible must have two sides willing to agree on some basic facts. Even this was often not to be had. So one then has two choices. Either to keep saying the same stuff again and again or else withdraw. every now and then I leave a comment on political issues but for the most part I find it a thankless exercise.
On AAP though I would accept they’ve made mistakes, created problems for themselves and certainly once you resign in politics it’s very hard to get a ‘win’ in any sense (barring some extraordinarily iconic figures who used resignations strategically).. all of this I can agree with but I still find most of the criticism to be rather cynical. Put differently the supporters of both Congress and the BJP should bury their heads in shame if they’re going to live by the same standards! But here there is the Aamir Khan analogy. This is precisely how many have attacked him for years, specially the SRK supporters. So when he wasn’t getting the biggest grossers he was attacked for being a fake and pretending to be serious when he couldn’t get the biggest hits. When he got the biggest hits the very same folks called him a sellout who confirmed just how fake he was. So he couldn’t win no matter what he was doing. The convenient logic was that since Aamir had set himself up to a higher standard he should be judged by that. This is true upto a point whether it’s about Aamir or AAP. However this hardly absolves everyone else from any sense of responsibility whatsoever! So the supporters of the other stars and/or political parties don’t get a free pass just because they’re more unscrupulous! Something analogous happens with the whole discussion on riots/pogroms. Mutually exclusive logical positions:
1)The Right didn’t do anything
2)Even if it did the Left did it first
The problem is that each position here implies a very different ethical standard and/or logic. So the Left is all evil only till the point when the Left can be blamed for starting things first in which case it suddenly becomes the standard. So it’s not just politicians but equally defenders of political parties and movie stars who use the most cynical arguments to justify their positions. And then in turn refuse to budge and inch from their positions and keep quoting articles and opinion-pieces that simply confirm their views. It happens everywhere in life when ideological battle-lines are sharply drawn. It could be AAP or it could be Aamir, the same tactics come into play.
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February 16, 2014 at 10:11 AM
Please Dont bring That pseudo intellect Aamir in discussion inspite of my unconditional support to him for his relatively better films. He is another third grade dramebaaz who take benefit from emotions of people without bringing any construction solution whether it is about his pseudo tear jerker Satyamev jayate or His long protest in Narmada dam project.
Can Media and so called intellectual society or anyone from bollywood dare to ask him What happened to His protest ? What was the purpose of his protest or who was behind it, was he playing cheap gimmick for publicity for Fanna or playing in hands of congress or his biased stand against Modi in post godhra riots provoked him? Where is his concern for those villagers ? Did he do anything for them later on ?
Now, Same project is biggest boon and life source of millions in Gujarat, Thanks to Narmada Dam and Solar energy plant over Narmada Dam turns out to be 180% efficient, also providing 24 electricity in villages of Gujarat which helped exponential growth in Agriculture development rate. And of course, it created thousands of jobs.
Not just that, it resolved flood situation in gujarat.
It was just friction of BJP’s 2 plan prepared in 2003.
1) First plan was to connect all rivers of Country, control them with dams to avoid flood situation and drought situation in various parts balancing it out. And it helps generate power source.
2) Quarter Express Highway project to Connect Metro cities via. express highway.
Can Anyone ask Aamir why he wasted his time and fought for wrong cause of no consequence , or he did something to rehabilitate those people.
Cheap Aamir, cheap Kejriwal and their followers.
As for Lokpal Bill drama in Delhi assembly,
1) Why Kejriwal didn’t give time other assembly members to go through lokpal bill. Didnt he already declared a week back he was going to resign ? While he gave copy of bill just 12 hours back to other assembly members. He already started drama without sending copy.
2) Delhi already had got Lokpal bill introduced by centeral govt on 16th Dec. Lokpal bill is introduced by Central Govt, and Lokayukta by State Govt. Delhi also has lokayukta bill. Lokayukta bill was required to be modified for betterment. Instead, he used Lokpal bill as excuse. It was introduced by Central Govt , so he cant introduce Lokpal for state level defying Center Govt’s bill without Central govt approval.
There were two ways to do it as per constitution-
By taking advise of judicial matter advisory which AAP took from Soli Sorabji as per AAP’s statement. And either challenge Centre’s Lopal Bill it in court for modifying it for Delhi or send his own Bill to Lt. Governor to get it passed .
AAP said Soli Sorabji advised unconstitutional route them to pass it without following of these ways which is unconstitutional.
But, As per Soli Sorabji never said so, here is AAP exposed-
thenhttp://www.timesnow.tv/Exclusive-Sorabjee-backs-Lt-Governor/videoshow/4448169.cms
Why BJP should let it pass unconstitutionally ? They have never done so and congress tried to do so once in 2002 (When BJP was in Central Govt and was in opposition in Delhi Assembly) but BJP forced them in Delhi assembly to take legal course in constitutional manner.
Why should BJP reject constitution for AAP’s decision ? It is total anarchy. If they allow to AAP, That means every state will override central government laws. Every state will become separatist which is very dangerous and no different from what happens in Kashmir.
Everyone knows AAP never respects constitution but BJP will condemn it and will never allow that.
Problem is people don’t know these technicalities and AAP is misleading them by rhetoric. If Kejriwal’s intention were in right place he could have done without central govt’s approval, without Lt. Governor’s approval and without challenging anyone in Court.
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February 16, 2014 at 10:26 AM
Kejriwal sent bill to assembly members only 12 hours before. Before presenting to anybody, He started talking about resignation.
Dr. Harsh Vardhan @drharshvardhan Feb 9
Arvind Kejriwal ji U have made such a hue and cry about Jan Lokpal everywhere but have not sent a copy to members of assembly .Stop DRAMA.
Kejriwal thinks only he is selected by people ? What about rest 40+ members in assembly ? They are chosen by same public, why doesnt he want consensus with assembly members and then pass to Lt Governor for approval or take legal course.
Kejriwal’s intentions were clear already as Barkha Dutt also said she knew a week back that he wanted to quit.
Hw wanted to campaign for loksabha elections and misled people by telling so many lies. Common People don’t know so much technicalities and he misled them by rhetoric.
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February 16, 2014 at 11:20 AM
This was just the introduction of the bill. At this stage a bill need not even be sent, just read on the floor, though in this case they received it at least 12 hours before the session.
The passing takes place days later. That is when the members get plenty of time to read it, and discuss and argue over it.
The opposition weaved a whole story about it being unconstitutional, whereas for ‘introducing’ a BIll things are not so narrow.
The trick was to stop the Bill at the door and not let it be introduced because later if after discussion they voted against, they would look bad.
Everyone knows that you can interpret laws to suit yourself (they are full of loopholes.
If they were clear such confusions wouldn’t occur.
Everyone interpreted the law as they wanted to including AAP.
And of course the whole might of the opposition came down with all its power to show it as something wrong.
To me the whole thing looks like someone knocked and stood at the door for entrance to be allowed in to say something, and was not heard leave alone even enter.
AAP has always said the Lokpal Bill in the centre is not the one that the movement had drafted, and this was a much much stronger Bill. Even Anna Hazare is now saying that it was a pity the Bill could not be introduced and supports Kejriwal’s resignation.
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February 16, 2014 at 4:41 PM
If a Bill overrides a bill already brought by Center, No bill can’t brought/introduced in Assembly in unconstitutional way. It is unconstitutional. Don’t just play with words.
And how come Soli Sorabji criticized AAP later for playing politics later ? Kejriwal misinformed people on his advise too.
‘ a 100 responses are not needed for every comment one doesn’t agree with’
This is what Satyam said , so i will stop responding to your baseless fact-less arguments.
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February 16, 2014 at 4:54 PM
This is what he said.
http://www.newkerala.com/news/2014/fullnews-10152.html#.UwEzRvl5Oy0
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February 18, 2014 at 10:53 AM
not at all but they misquoted him and lied
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/delhi/Opinion-was-on-procedural-rule-Sorabjee/articleshow/30488083.cms
NEW DELHI: Former attorney general Soli Sorabjee has clarified that the legal opinion he had tendered to the Arvind Kejriwal government was purely on a procedural rule and not on the Jan Lokpal Bill.
In Sorabjee’s opinion, Rule 55(1) of the Transaction of Business Rules is unconstitutional as there is no statutory bar on introducing a Bill in the assembly without the prior consent of the Centre. But then, as long as the Supreme Court does not strike down the rule, lieutenant governor Najib Jung is bound by it.
The most that the Kejriwal government could have done with his opinion was to challenge the legality of the rule cited by the Centre for coming in the way of the Jan Lokpal Bill, Sorabjee told the media. Since it could not have taken the place of a judicial verdict, Sorabjee said his legal opinion could not override the rule that applied to Jung.
The most that the Kejriwal government could have done with his opinion was to challenge the legality of the rule cited by the Centre for coming in the way of the Jan Lokpal Bill, Sorabjee told the media. Since it could not have taken the place of a judicial verdict, Sorabjee said his legal opinion could not override the rule that applied to Jung.
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February 15, 2014 at 3:12 PM
The cartoonist is ill informed because he doesn’t even know that Kejriwal never wears shoes. He always wears chappals or sandals (with socks) in winter. He even went to Rashtrapati Bhavan in sandals. Here’s a picture clearly showing his footwear.
So not only is the cartoonist ill informed about the subject’s physical appearance but I can say also on his political stand.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/photo/29429605.cms
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February 15, 2014 at 3:02 PM
My comment is to rebutt the cartoon that you have put up. The previous one was very funny, but this one is prejudiced.
The trp greedy/sensationalist media is giving it all kinds of twists. The support would have anyway been over after the elections.
-Did he leave because he wants to be free for LS elections – as if one has to do that and not fight while still in govt (like Modi)
Anyway here are some tweets from foreign media;
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February 16, 2014 at 10:19 AM
Even Foreign media doesnt care about India’s constitution, if every state will override Central Govt’s Bill. Then, every state can become independent which is situation like Jammu & Kashmir. Only Anto nationals want that happen.
There was so many ways to do it constitutionally by taking judiciary procedures demanding in court or sending the bill to Lt Governor.
Actually, Kejriwal compromised with Lt Governor and agreed with him to save his minister Somnath Bharti. But, for lokpal bill, he says Governor is congress man. If Najeeb jung is congress man, he can take other option of petition in court.
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February 16, 2014 at 11:23 AM
After the investigation is over we can talk of Somnath Bharati. He’ll be kicked out by the party if proved guilty on even one allegation.
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February 16, 2014 at 11:43 AM
Also, Soni Sori a suspected Maoist just released from jail a week back is declred AAP candidate in Dantewada seat for parliament elections of Chattisgarh. Dont they have better candidate? It is big risk to vote for AAP. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soni_Sori read about her. What AAP shout about…no criminals in politics ? Huh
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February 16, 2014 at 12:01 PM
LOL AAP just updated the list after criticism, they removed Dantewada seat declaration. It has been replaced with Moradabad seat for as of now.
http://www.aamaadmiparty.org/lok-sabha-elections-2014-first-candidate-list
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February 16, 2014 at 11:45 AM
She is just out on Bail, and now ready to fight loksabha elections at AAP ticket from Dantewada seat.
http://ibnlive.in.com/news/soni-sori-accused-of-naxal-connections-granted-bail-by-supreme-court/433670-37-64.html
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February 16, 2014 at 10:32 AM
ranters and winners complain after abusing but those with facts easily refute and work:
blast from past
http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2003-04-12/ahmedabad/27275675_1_cng-stations-gujarat-gas-trunk-pipeline
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February 16, 2014 at 10:36 AM
for so called lier talking about silence(this is called real deal) :
case filed by gujarat government
http://www.siasat.com/english/news/court-notice-government-plea-against-cng-price-hike
Following a Gujarat High Court order in December, the government has ordered all of domestically available compressed natural gas (CNG) for city gas projects to be equitably distributed among all the companies in the country. Prior to this, cheaper domestic gas was largely available to firms retailing CNG in Delhi and Mumbai.
Indraprastha Gas Limited (IGL), which is the sole retailer of CNG in the national capital, hiked the CNG price on Dec 26 by Rs.4.50 per kg, saying the rate increase was forced by court orders that led to cut in allocation of cheaper domestic natural gas.
The Delhi government in its submissions told the court that any reduction in allocation of CNG to the city would adversely impact prices of essential commodities as well as discourage the use of the clean fuel CNG.
It argued that hike in CNG price is against the Supreme Court’s ruling, which had issued direction to convert the fleets of buses to CNG.
The Gujarat High Court Dec 25 last year ordered cutting the allocation of gas supply and IGL implemented the changes in rates the next day.
In its petition, the transport association said: “Supply/allocation would have a substantial impact upon the petitioner, as such reduction would mean that IGL would have to make shortfall from imported natural gas at a much higher price. The same would also be contrary to the Supreme Court order.”
“Supply of domestic gas to IGL would be reduced from 2.344 MMSCMD to 2.228 MMSCMD, which amounts to almost a 5 percent reduction and translates to a reduction of supply of 1,16,000 standard cubic meters per day,” the petition added.
The court, meanwhile, also refused to suspend the IGL’s decision to hike the CNG price.
The city counsel told the court that the Supreme Court had asked the central government to give priority to transport sector, including private vehicles, all over India with regard to the allocation of CNG.
“This means that first the transport sector in Delhi, and in the other air polluted cities of India, CNG will be allocated and made available and it is only thereafter if any CNG is available, that the same can be allocated to the industries, preference being shown to public sector undertaking and power projects,” argued city government’s counsel.
“After use of CNG by the vehicles running in Delhi, there is considerable reduction in the pollution level into the pollution level figures of 1996,” counsel added.
The Delhi government also supported the arguments of petitioner and said: “It is a hard fact that there would be an increase in the CNG prices as well as a result of the reduction of allocation of domestic gas in accordance with guidelines of Nov 14, 2013, issued by ministry, and an adverse economic impact on the commercial vehicles operators who got converted their vehicles to CNG by investing additional money on it.”
It added that any reduction in allocation of CNG to Delhi would not only increase price of CNG alone but would have further impact on rising of prices of essential commodities as well as “discourage the use of CNG”.
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February 16, 2014 at 10:38 AM
http://news.outlookindia.com/items.aspx?artid=822661
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February 16, 2014 at 11:12 AM
Kejriwal also filed petition duplicating same by gujarat govt.
But, difference is Kejriwal will not follow investigation, as he resigned just one day after foiling FIR. Gujarat govt will do. Talk about self promotion and rhetoric… and Kejriwal.
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February 16, 2014 at 4:33 PM
“On AAP though I would accept they’ve made mistakes, created problems for themselves and certainly once you resign in politics it’s very hard to get a ‘win’ in any sense (barring some extraordinarily iconic figures who used resignations strategically).. all of this I can agree with but I still find most of the criticism to be rather cynical. Put differently the supporters of both Congress and the BJP should bury their heads in shame if they’re going to live by the same standards! ”
Agree with Satyam here…
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February 17, 2014 at 1:00 AM
There is also a tactical limitation that AAP faces, that other parties don’t: a Congress or a BJP can make alliances with the devil himself, and people will be somewhat forgiving, as no-one thought they were saints anyway. But AAP has put itself in a bind with Kejriwal saying things like (e.g. in his interview over the weekend with Barkha Dutt) that all the other parties are corrupt. All. While true, this does mean that AAP will find it difficult to credibly partner with anyone in the Lok Sabha, which could push them towards noisy irrelevance; or even expose them to attempts by other parties to depress voters by making the claim that a vote for AAP is a protest vote, without much practical significance.
On the plus side, Kejriwal is a canny fellow, and has clearly tapped into the desire for “plainspoken” politicians; the Congress seems just about done, so I suspect any votes AAP garners in urban India will likely come at the BJP’s expense (which of course explains the stridency of BJP attacks on AAP of late). I don’t think his ride is over yet, but like Satyam, I do believe that the resignation is a big blow: in politics you are either in power or out of it.
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February 17, 2014 at 6:54 AM
AAP has always maintained that it will survive as long as people are motivated by its aims of removing corruption and the behaviour of elected leaders acting as Gods.
Resignation was to let people decide whether they want to send them back with a proper mandate rather than the precarious and silly ‘outside support’.
If people feel AAP failed, then so be it. Just to gain the chair/power by all means was never their aim.
They wil definitely not make a noisy opposition as you claim, Qalandar.
The dignity with which they sat throughout the session while the other two were creating such disorder and bedlam makes one hope that this will be their behaviour if they form an opposition.
BJP was hands in glove with congress and so didn’t make a good opposition party which I hope.
Anyway, the first list of 20 names have been announced and are really interesting. It also includes Soni Sori the tribal activist, Ashutosh against Kapil Sibal and other candidates against other
biggies.
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February 17, 2014 at 10:53 AM
dignity roflmao
jung’s letter is online and the nepotism of speakers action was live only actually reality is government was allready in minority 1 week back with 2 members who withdrawal of support (just 34 of coalition)
if there was votye of no motion it would have fallen anyway…a safe exit route one say
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February 17, 2014 at 10:57 AM
*who withdrew support”
Sori was arrested by police in 2011 and was charged of receiving money on behalf of the Maoists from a steel manufacturing firm Essar Group.
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February 17, 2014 at 12:22 PM
btw she got bail from judiciary but there are many who did this
http://www.satp.org/satporgtp/countries/india/terroristoutfits/CPI_M_Timeline11.htm
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February 17, 2014 at 12:32 PM
aside
meera sanyal ,gopinath and mallika sarabhai contested in 04 and 09
malllika sarabhai was congress candidate for cm in gujrat lost very badly
http://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/aap-s-kumar-vishwas-slams-mallika-sarabhai-questions-her-contribution/article1-1173118.aspx
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February 17, 2014 at 1:02 PM
Mira Sanyal was an independent candidate – not congress. She stood against biggies, Congress Petroleum Minister Murli Deora’s son Milind and Shiv Sena’s Mohan Rawale.
Malika Sarabhai and Gopinath are not mentioned in this list. They are not AAP’s candidates. They are just famous AAP members.
Soni Sori and family were framed by congress to show they were doing something about the maoists. She has been treated badly as a tribal woman and I hope she wins and becomes the first tribal woman in LS (I think, I don’t know), and that stupid police officer Garg who got a ‘bravery’ medal should be made to feel small. Whether she loses or wins this will restore her dignity.
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February 17, 2014 at 3:40 PM
who said mira sanyal as congressi …in which land people are
i name few members who contested before ..maoists at first is genuine concern inspite of any political affiliation and congress here has done better
a whole unit of congress politicians to killed by maoists very recently
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February 17, 2014 at 3:44 PM
there was phoolan devi the original bandit queen from mulayam party
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February 16, 2014 at 6:04 PM
And This is what Kejriwal wrote. He is writing letter to court to release proven terrorist Bhullar singh who is given death sentence by supreme court. He wrote this letter and publicizing it now in Punjab to grab sympathy votes. Given tickets to Naxal suspects and supporting terrorist ? This is worst vote bank politics, one step ahead of congress.
http://www.sikhsangat.com/index.php?/topic/73780-aam-admi-partyaap-supports-release-of-prof-bhullar-and-bhai-iqbal-singh/
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February 17, 2014 at 1:18 AM
While Indians fight with each other, China and Pakistan maybe feeling happy. There is this Arunachal Pradesh issue and for Pakistan the Kashmir issue.
Congress maybe corrupt but now Supreme Court and vigilant political outfits are keeping a close watch on its every move and that may make them cautious. Somehow Congress will make another coalition this time too.
Modi maybe good for the rich and the middleclasses, but what about the poorest of poor?
Kejriwal must become alone crusader because some of his followers are bringing a very bad name. He cannot have the cake and eat it too. That is he cannot practice pure honesty and raise a political party too as the followers may turn out to be wolves in sheeps’ clothes.
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February 17, 2014 at 6:58 AM
I think once corruption is removed, and people realise that standing for elections and getting elected means work, accountability – and NOT make crores then there will not be so many fights.
Congress is not in a happy state at all.
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February 17, 2014 at 2:56 AM
ya like:
ib vs cbi,
army vs government
state vs centre(all thanks to congress)
in the interest of india who needs to be wiped out writing is on wall, divide and rule can’t last forever
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February 17, 2014 at 3:02 AM
poorest of poor suffers from inflation, swallowing tax-payer’s money into scams and scandals(the most corrupt in history of modern india)
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February 17, 2014 at 1:19 PM
Today at CII, speech and Q/A sessions by AK was so brilliant that all that Chai/Coffee/Soda/Ganja charcha looks so farzi in front of this. AK has so clarity on economical and industrial issues.
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February 17, 2014 at 4:24 PM
yeh toh Hawa mein charcha hai sit jee !!…..
jhoot par jhoot par jhoot!!
al the anti BJP wale bade parshaan hain, becharey sharam key maarey Congress ko support toh kar nahee saktey,
BJP ko support kiya toh kuch khatrey mein pad jaayega, issliye Iss Drama Queen ko hee aagey badhao !!
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February 17, 2014 at 4:44 PM
All rhetoric, not even a single thing he said made sense.
So many big things he said, but that doesn’t reflect in his work or his approach. He is just power hungry opportunist.
All congress supporters are riding on AK these days. This is definitely Congress plan to bring him back in campaigning as All surveys are predicting NDA 220+ seats. First they tied to stop BJP in delhi, now trying same in Loksabha.
AAP will easily tie with Congress or for third front with Samajwadi Party after elections. Kamal farooqui , SP actually came to meet AK personally after he was appointed CM.
SP of Mulayam singh provided Kejriwal z-security as long as he stayed at his Ghaziabad residence.
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February 17, 2014 at 5:03 PM
Thanks for this.
It is a very clear cut picture of what AAP would do if in a position to do it.
I always love his Q & A s. Very intelligent. Even his interviews.
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February 17, 2014 at 5:08 PM
A real chaiwala at an NDTV inteview said (about chai thing that was on some days ago) – mazak udaya hai!
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February 18, 2014 at 6:57 AM
caught lieing again on same event
http://zeenews.india.com/news/nation/transparency-international-rebuffs-aap-on-corruption-down-in-delhi_912220.html
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February 18, 2014 at 7:08 AM
Subramanian Swamy @Swamy39 10h
Shri 420 told CII meet that a survey showed corruption Delhi was down 45%. Shazia identified TI as the agency, which denied any such report.
http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/subramaniam-swamy-busted-the-2g-scam/1/153417.html
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February 18, 2014 at 7:48 AM
one of his other famous case in delhi hc that forced certain ambani to return $1.12 billion to India in 2001
two big silence:
silence of muffler on fcra despite 3 notices on foreign funding… prosecution due in court
http://indianexpress.com/article/india/politics/kejriwal-yet-to-disclose-details-of-foreign-funding-of-aap-shinde/
other blackout in indian media which happened this week :
Judge denies Sonia’s plea for dismissal of case
February 13, 2014
Special Correspondent
Judge denies Sonia’s plea for dismissal of case
NEW YORK : A US judge in New York has But Judge Brian denied Indian Congress President Sonia Gandhi’s request to strike down a Sikh advocacy group’s motion for the continuation of its human rights violation case against her, according to the organization’s press release.
The February 11 motion of Sonia Gandhi pleaded that since the Sikhs For Justice have added new allegations of rights violation against her, and askedthe Court dismiss it.
But Judge Brian Cogan denied the request“, saying, “If there is something wrong with plaintiff’s opposition, that’s what defendant’s reply is for”. The Sikh group accuses Ms. Gandhi for “shielding and protecting” the leaders of her party who were allegedly involved in the anti-Sikh riots in India in 1984.
Gandhi’s New York-based counsel Ravi Batra said,
“It is sad that SFJ has filed an ill-advised and misguided memo of law that violates basic legal rules that apply to every litigant. It will compel us to ask Judge Brian M Cogan for appropriate relief.”
However, justifying the hearing, SFJ legal advisor Gurpatwant Singh Pannun argued that pursuant to US court orders on September 09, 2013, plaintiffs served the summons and the complaint on the hospital and security staff at Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center in New York where Sonia Gandhi was believed to have been undergoing medical treatment.
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February 18, 2014 at 8:00 AM
According to section 29B of Representation of People’s Act, every political party may accept any amount of contribution voluntarily offered to it by any person or company other than a Government company provided that no political party shall be eligible to accept any contribution from any foreign source defined under clause (e) of section 2 of the Foreign Contribution (Regulation) Act, 1976. The present PIL is on
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February 17, 2014 at 5:11 PM
Before, the JNU types commies had complete monopoly and control over the media and thus over the narrative .
With the social media as well as some sane people like Swapan, Kanchan, Media Crooks guy, Tavleen Singh, Sucheta Dalal, Abhijeet Majumdaar, and so many more the spin has been totally blown away.
inn commies ko badee mirchi lagee hui hai kee yeh kya ho gaya , samajh nahee aa raha innko kee kya Karen !!!
P.S.-Bullet Raja had a brilliant scene where Sonakhshi’s brother says- I am a communist outside my house, not inside !! LOL!!
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February 17, 2014 at 5:20 PM
The tone of your comments and others of the same following, sound more like mirchi lagi hui. 😀
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February 17, 2014 at 5:24 PM
unlike others though I don’t bother to engage with Poorana Peetal so buzz off !!!
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February 17, 2014 at 11:41 PM
Urgh, vote for whoever the hell you want. I mean, discussion’s one thing, but people are kinda coming down to personal attacks here.
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February 18, 2014 at 12:15 AM
Muffler’s first interview with Barkha Bahar post resignation:
http://www.ndtv.com/video/player/news/lokpal-or-lok-sabha-the-arvind-kejriwal-interview/309553?hp
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February 18, 2014 at 1:11 PM
Dharna Dance Feat .. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b68CLel3g58
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February 18, 2014 at 1:13 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RENcw7a140 Nayak-2 Promo .. @Satyam can you create separate thread for these Kejri videos ? Pretty interesting these are …
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February 18, 2014 at 4:27 PM
hahaha This one’s great.
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February 19, 2014 at 8:54 AM
Even though the truth is very grim, the way it is deliveered is hilarious.
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February 21, 2014 at 9:54 AM
Last day of 15th Lok Sabha: PM says country can take hard decisions, Sushma praises Sonia
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February 21, 2014 at 9:55 AM
Swaraj, who had once said that she will tonsure her head if Sonia Gandhi becomes Prime Minister, said she was a graceful leader.
As she spoke for the last time in the 15th Lok Sabha, which was adjourned sine die on Friday, Swaraj showered praise on BJP patriarch LK Advani who was seen with moist eyes.
Swaraj, who was at her witty best, drew applause from members as she mentioned that parliamentary affairs minister Kamal Nath tried “shararat (mischief)” ways, while Sushilkumar Shinde displayed “sharafat (decency)”.
Besides, she said UPA chairperson Sonia Gandhi’s gracefulness and the Prime Minister Manmohan Singh’s gentleness helped in conduct of the 15th Lok Sabha.
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February 23, 2014 at 10:07 AM
For certain members here-
Last week, I met a German writer who is studying the Indian general election. During the course of an enjoyable conversation, he expressed his deep unease at the casual way in which his liberal friends in India bandied expressions such as “fascism” and “Holocaust”. Hitler, he explained to me, was one of the most extraordinary aberrations in human history. It was extremely unlikely that such a phenomenon would recur, and certainly not in the 21st century.
http://www.swapan55.com/2014/02/intellectual-elite-fears-modi-surge.html
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February 23, 2014 at 2:27 PM
The problem with calling Hitler an ‘extreme aberration’ is that any level of violence in the same vein that does not rise to that level can automatically be dismissed as not serious enough. The Hitler label then becomes not a mode of vigilance but a way to enable ‘anything’! So it’s exactly the opposite of what Swapan Dasgupta claims. Of course with a little more understanding of history and a lot more understanding of philosophy he’d understand that the name Hitler is precisely important as a cautionary note. There have been all sorts of fascists in the history of the last century who were not Hitler in terms of what they did but who belonged to that same vein of political thought. The effects they unleashed were not acceptable just because they weren’t Hitler. The point of raising this name is precisely not to render Hitler as some way-out-there phenomenon from Mars! It is because that model is entirely replicable and has been replicated to varying degrees (only moral lepers wait for the numbers to reach 6m to find the analogy acceptable.. otherwise one need only count as far as 1!) since Hitler (and actually before Hitler too) that it is instructive to use it. This doesn’t mean one has to subscribe to the political use of ‘Hitler’ to serve various victimhood agendas. Nor does it mean one has to be blind to the same kinds of totalitarian violence when it occurs on the left (though it comes from different ideological corners the killing of millions is unacceptable when it’s Hitler who does it or Stalin.. but this shouldn’t prevent one from exploring the roots of each response.. there was a time when there were lots of left-leaning extremists in the world, we are now living through a phase when the right dominates in this sense.. the reasons for this would take long to explore and would constitute a different sort of discussion).
Ironically in every such case where there were fascists propagating their new order (where of course the pretense always was that they were simply restoring the old!) they were all quite appalled when compared with Hitler in any sense. The Hitler signature has been made so sui generis that even if there were another leader exactly as bad as Hitler in every respect he too wouldn’t accept the comparison!
Then there are the ‘crocodile tears’ in all these instances. The current Indian example is no exception. So it’s either that Modi didn’t do anything or if he did go get the Congress folks of ’84 first! So the Right also employs this move where it often pretends to be more liberal than the left (‘hey we’re only going to Afghanistan to save those little girls from getting their noses cut off’! It’s true that this can often be the result but that is not ‘why’ they really go). So here the bleeding hearts on the Right are so upset about the ’84 anti-Sikh violence (note by the way how the ‘Hindu’ is never evoked here.. who was doing the killing when it came to this minority? It’s only the neutral-sounding Congress) but forgot to bring it up until Modi was put on the stand (in a manner of speaking). Plus the ethical framework shifts completely when those two claims are made. If I find out a friend is a rapist I can hardly ‘defend’ him by saying ‘get last month’s rapist first’! And if one thinks that those on the left are being unfair to Modi why cannot one at least agree completely with Satyam who has been saying for years that whether it’s anti-Sikh violence or anti-Muslim violence or anti-Hindu violence all are equally unacceptable? Not just this, I have also said many times that I cannot condone retaliatory violence of any kind either (not an idealistic claim by the way..it’s the law in most countries I am aware of including India). It’s not enough to say ‘Satyam is fair, I have no problem when he says it’. I am not looking to create a club here, the debate is about whether what is being said is fair or not. Don’t give me a pass when it comes to this stuff, tell me whether you agree with the claim or not. If the latter why is it that the ’84 anti-Sikh violence is objectively true and that there’s no doubt about this whereas with 2002 even the most dispassionate reports from the most dispassionate researchers are never enough because somehow they have nothing better to do in life than plan hatchet jobs on Modi?!
One sixth of the Indian population is tribal. It shocks many people to learn about this number. It’s roughly 150-200m people. In the languages of many tribes of central, eastern and northern Indian the word for Hindu is ‘diku’ which means ‘outsider’. For them these ‘adivasis’ or original inhabitants of India the Hindu is the outsider who came and took away everything. This ‘diku’ is ‘villain no. 1’ (if you’ll allow the Dhawanism) in their books. Once upon a time many on the right would have happily agreed being wedded to their Aryan mythology. However the strain that has prevailed insists (for obvious reasons) on a completely home-grown genealogy. The tribals disagree. of course the Dravidians too claim that they were here at least before the ‘Aryan outsiders’ but that’s another chapter of this debate.
What’s the point here? That politics is often built on potent fictions but some fictions are ‘truer’ than others. The entire edifice of the Right in India is built on quicksand in every way imaginable (which does not mean it cannot be successful!). The question then is whether one retreats further into the mythology and increasingly finds oneself in an absurd positions where one is treating every bit of factual argument as implausible or if one is able to come up with a more responsible right-oriented discourse that doesn’t depend on such fantasy. History is always inconvenient for partisans on any side of any debate. It does not favor anyone. The problem lies in the ‘partisanship’. if you are invested in notions of religious or ethnic or national purity of any kind (not to mention gender..) history will defeat you. provided you have the courage to face up to it. The partisan always seeks ‘one’ version of events when there is always enough to complicate this picture.
If one knows a South Indian language enough, certainly the major ones, one quickly discovers who deeply soaked each is in Sanskrit in terms of vocabulary and sometimes in other ways. It’s just a fact of life. One might not like the Aryan/Vedic colonization if one is into Dravidian nationalism, one might create a register of language less reliant on the Sanskrit but ultimately this history cannot be evaded. The same is true for those who don’t like British rule. To be Indian is to be minimally indebted to a British genealogy (we’re all writing here in English for a reason!). There is then the curious case of the Indian right-winger who is often invested in the most anti-Muslim political positions while being equally invested in the art and popular culture that is directly dependent on the same history! If one took a survey of BJP leaders one would run into Urdu-poetry enthusiasts far more easily than Hindi-poetry ones! Why is there this contradiction? Because one does not realize what has gone into one’s DNA before one was formed! In Tagore’s great novel Gora, the eponymous character is the right-winger of his age but a Desai-like twist reveals he is actually British. There are complicated historical currents that go into the lives of any community (national or otherwise) which in turn feed more individual identities. Political fictions are often dangerous because these often depend on a certain ‘forgetting’ or ignorance of the same.
Ultimately the debate isn’t about Modi or whatever the left says. It’s about what one chooses to believe. the same happens on the other side. But we can’t only use this other side as a shield to avoid the consequences of our own views. I find the portrayal of Maoist violence in the Indian media to be completely misleading, irresponsible and de-contextualized. At the same time I also find the specific incidents of that violence to be atrocious and nauseating. I could say something similar about the LTTE (and this is in fact the tension explored in Ratnam’s film). One can hold on to both views. This does not prevent anyone from having one’s ideological sympathies or what have you. The question simply is: does the sympathy become so important that one is willing to sacrifice anything to preserve its (imagined) ‘purity’?
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February 23, 2014 at 2:30 PM
by the way folks who cannot respond seriously to this shouldn’t bother!
And say whatever you want to without resorting to a 100 comments!
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February 23, 2014 at 7:32 PM
Your long comment was extremely logical. I enjoyed reading it. Emotions and self interest cloud reason and logic. But one cannot shut out sunlight forever.
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February 23, 2014 at 7:53 PM
thanks much Sanjana..
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February 23, 2014 at 3:11 PM
comment should me more serious rather than 1000 words of ridiculous repeated content which is hollow
should made it more simpler in layman language:
hitler was knosn fascist who said my way is correct like
1) i am secular and he is communal bla bla
2) those who are not with me are corrupt…the regular discourse in politics which is not from right
on 84 and right again plain ignorance it all started with bhinderwala to contain rivals in punjab ….simply those who are ruling now and brought it to normalcy and ya truth is always stranger than fiction and it was
“when big tree falls earth shake”
for all these verbose chanakya said
“A person should not be too honest. Straight trees are cut first and honest people are screwed first.” and “A man is great by deeds, not by birth.”
maoists breeds on protection money and violence to and for so called biaseness of media what does friendly ngo do for them simply another propaganda
folks who can’t write seriously with content even words don’t save them
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February 23, 2014 at 8:02 PM
Re.-There is then the curious case of the Indian right-winger who is often invested in the most anti-Muslim political positions while being equally invested in the art and popular culture that is directly dependent on the same history! I
That is not true Satyam, most right wingers are not anti- Muslims, they are anti Appeasement and anti anti- nationals.
Bhut bada Farq hai !!
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February 23, 2014 at 8:24 PM
The problem is that a certain discourse that is structurally anti-minority (which is different from people being anti-minority at a personal level..) tends to mask it in the rhetoric of appeasement and so on. The latter itself is as old as the hills or if I might be allowed this example once more as old as Hitler! What I mean is that in every such situation the minority is always supposedly threatening the majority and the latter is only ‘defending’ itself. In every such example you could just substitute the names and the everything else would hold in exactly the same way. This has been my point repeatedly. You could take example after example and you’d simply have to fill in the blanks differently. The formula would be the same. The RSS youth exercises are modeled on those of the SS! People here might be appalled by the Hitler analogies. The RSS certainly isn’t! The entire Hindutva discourse borrows wholesale the lexicon on Western fascism. If you ask me the ‘Hindu’ today needs to be defended more than ever before from the ‘Hindutva takeover’. Sadly a lot of the damage has already been done but I’d say that from the Vedas to the Mahabharata and then down the ages into the contemporary present one of the urgent tasks in India is to rescue the normative Hindu (this was ‘the’ debate in Dev.. the normative Hindu in Bachchan vs the Hindutva type in Om Puri) from the violence of Hindutva. If there is a majority that’s forced to become silent here it’s precisely this kind of Hindu caught between a rock and a hard place. He or she can’t be Hindu in the old ways because this invites the charge of being right-wing and part of the Hindutva brigade. Being ‘secular’ would however be another forced choice. The point is that there is a certain tradition of Hindu religiosity, even bourgeois religiosity, that is not at all about this kind of militant Hindutva politics. Such people get it from both sides because from the secular left to the militant right they are considered questionable by each side. In India today the hardest thing in this sense is to be a Hindu who is not about Hindutva! Much as in different contexts the same might be true for Muslims and Christians and so on. Even within India this happens when you get the Mullah brigade going after more normative Muslims at various levels.
To get back to the initial point I’ve often heard this refrain ‘hey I’m not anti-Muslim (or anti-Hindu or anti-black or whatever), some of my close friends are Muslims (or Hindus or Blacks…). The problem is that this proves the opposite of what the speaker thinks he or she claims. This establishes the essential bias or structural antipathy. Because you essentially hold up the friend as the exception to the rule. That is a personal choice. It’s like BJP leaders who have personal friends among the Muslim leadership, even at the Mullah level and even attend their Ramadan parties and so on. This happens everywhere. It doesn’t mean anything. In fact such a personal choices allows one to be even more anti-(whatever group it is) elsewhere because one can always keep the friend in one’s mind as evidence of one’s openness. So yeah all blacks are terrible but some are nice and they’re my friends! I am always willing to be friends with those exceptions!
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February 23, 2014 at 10:33 PM
verbose with rubbish all around
hindutva is not borrowed from west but has 5000 years of history much before them
how many shakhas have you attended before your so called sugar quoting of hate…there have been doctors and engineers from them not jihadis
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saraswati_Shishu_Mandir
group of RSS activists planned to educate children about Hindutva (the nationalistic Hindu way of life) and shri Krishna Chandra Gandhi opened the first school in Gorakhpur.[2] Prior to this, Gita school was established at Kurukshetra in the year 1946 by Shri Guruji, M.S. Golwalker.
The education style in these schools is a blend of ancient Indian education style as prescribed in the Vedas, nationalistic Hindu pride, and contemporary subjects taught in the local language. They address the male teacher as aacharya (teacher)and female teacher as Didi. The day starts with plenty of prayers to goddess Saraswati in Sanskrit and Hindi. Other patriotic songs and didactic motivational stories are also recited. They sing Shanti Path by which they pray to good for Peace and prosperity of every human being. They also worship Bharat Mata.
As on 2010, about 17,000 schools have been instituted across India. All state-level committees are affiliated to the Vidya Bharati Akhil Bharatiya Shiksha Sansthan[3] educational system, headquartered in Delhi.
Across all grades, the school starts with a zero period(शुन्य कालांश). In this class, the teacher tells students about historical stories and legends of freedom fighters and religions of India.
At the end of school time students sing vande Matram. In many schools, students of north east states are getting education free of cost. In this school all the students are taking lunch to-gather with Teachers (Acharya ji)after a Bhojan Mantra.
Many schools are currently running in rural areas for the betterment of Rural India. All those schools are funded by other schools. Vidya Bharati Akhil Bharatiya Shiksha Sansthan is working with an aim of providing quality education and creation of patriot student in society. Class rooms are in the name of various historic person such as Kabir, Rahim, Kalidas, Subhas Chandra Bose, Bhagat singh etc.
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February 23, 2014 at 10:44 PM
problem with certain discourse is more than anti minority they are more anti majority like criticism of vedas , how its difficult for today hindu to not follow hindutva…equating western fascism to cultural nationalism
whats wrong in attending ramdan or iftar but asking for votes with friday night sermons indicates the other point
case in point anna and mamta yesterday sucked upto a certain bukhari and other religious but not community focusing on there plight
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February 23, 2014 at 11:07 PM
rawness of political front and maoists but again same nehru after 62 war with china issued white paper to communist for anti india activities not right and in 63 this
/large
whenever they maligned others moved to court
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February 24, 2014 at 5:31 AM
valmiki composed ramayana for diku…ever heard of santhal revolution of 1885 and birsa munda
http://www.hindu.com/2000/08/16/stories/05161307.htm
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February 24, 2014 at 6:03 PM
I might be reading a recent and well-reviewed Modi bio. Perhaps there’s hope for me! Then again this bio might be another sinister leftist plot..
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February 23, 2014 at 10:22 AM
my thoughts exactly-
Chetan Bhagat @chetan_bhagat · 5h
There was a time you had to attack Hinduism to prove you are secular. Now, you have to attack Modi to prove you are
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February 23, 2014 at 2:30 PM
revolt from iit it seems, bhagat is not alone
/large
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February 23, 2014 at 10:53 AM
Just 2 days back, Yogendra yadav said AAP is ready to take political fund from Mukesh ambani ?
aajtak.intoday.in/story/aap-ready-to-take-political-funding-from-mukesh-ambani-says-yogendra-yadav-1-755263.html
And today Kejriwal attacks Ambani in his rally.
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February 23, 2014 at 2:31 PM
Commented elsewhere: “The insinuation that Ambanis’ are crook/thief is wrong. Apple has been finding loopholes in system not paying taxes; that doesn’t make them bad. Companies are in business to make money. As a lawmaker and regulator you need to watch rules are followed. I agree a big player with money has more power to arm twist but that is true in any country.”
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February 23, 2014 at 5:02 PM
That’s the silliest thing I’ve heard.
A crime/cheating is a crime/cheating is a crime/cheating is a crime cheating.
Is this a rule or a law in some country? Where?
In any case looting of natural resources is not the same as Apple or whatever.
The natural resource DO NOT belong to the businessman who has rented it.
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February 23, 2014 at 5:17 PM
Oldgold – Any resource by definition belongs to that country’s people. Then atleast in that country the price should be just price explore plus cost of transportation? I prefer market driven pricing but in India we have convoluted system. We pay more for petrol in form of taxes in spite of all lower prices elsewhere. Increased pricing is not going to help only Reliance, it will help other public sector companies like ONGC, OIL or whoever controls the rigs. The demand side include public sector companies which are major buyers of this gas and they have been opposing increase in the price. When Govt fixed the price, it was challenged in court. Why not the ONGC and other supply side player put in FIR? because Ambanis are easy target.
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February 23, 2014 at 5:25 PM
The thing is that it’s Reliance which signed a contract for 17 years to sell at $2.34 (or thereabouts) while the costs invlolved is $1.
It’s they – Reliance who got the increase just 2 years after the signing of the contract to $4+ and now to $8 from 1st April.
The ONGC and another company called Nikki or something are out of it. Nikki even sells the same stuff at the original price still at $2.34 to Bangladesh.
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February 23, 2014 at 6:21 PM
And Bangladesh argument suggests that same gas which is sold here in India is sold to Bangladesh at lower price. That price is for Bangladesh gas produced over there:
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Is-Bangladesh-gas-price-an-unfair-benchmark/articleshow/30253238.cms
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February 23, 2014 at 6:06 PM
Cost of $1 is utopian, a misinformation.
The cost of most medicines are less than $1 but are sold at much higher price.Why? Because it includes cost of research, it includes cost of other failed projects, it includes other fixed costs plus a profit.
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February 23, 2014 at 6:08 PM
Gas prices at Henry Hub:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Hub
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February 24, 2014 at 7:23 AM
Are you saying the RS54000 crores that he’ll make with$8 is just enough to pay ‘increased’ transport, etc expenses?
Are you saying Bangladesh is more efficient in getting out their gas, transport it, etc and still sell it at $2.34?
The $1 costs are as of present, and I presume it includes all costs.
Not letting businesses loot and get rich by extracting money from the public is NOT communism.
Let India not start following US (if that is the state of business there).
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February 24, 2014 at 1:15 PM
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2012/05/04/india-reliance-idUKL4E8G462X20120504
This should give clue (an old article).
$1 is marginal cost. But F and D cost is high and was based on assumption that Reliance will be able to produce 80 mmscmd but the production has not matched to expectation. They need to recover the cost based on continuing operation.
http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2013-04-19/news/38674372_1_pioneer-jv-shale-gas-production-shale-acreage
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February 24, 2014 at 1:17 PM
Gas to oil is 1:10. So divide the numbers by 10. Comparatively older number but still gives indication
http://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.cfm?id=367&t=8
http://www.rediff.com/business/slide-show/slide-show-1-how-gas-price-hike-benefits-reliance-industries/20130726.htm#1
http://m.economictimes.com/news/news-by-industry/energy/oil-gas/reliance-industries-gets-conditional-nod-for-1-billion-investment-in-kg-d6-fields/articleshow/15389516.cms
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February 24, 2014 at 5:54 PM
munna nice try 🙂
But it doesn’t work like tthis.
You and I or even newspapers don’t know the details, but I think the three people who approached the then Kejriwal government with information know much more.
It isn’t easy to catch these people. I’m sure they have everything correctly calculated on paper. With all his money and the government (including opposition) in his pay, the information available to newspapers (also bought by him) etc is in his favour.
Lets wait instead of arguing.
It’s unfortunate that one sees the result of corruption but to prove it its an uphill task.
Why is it that poor countries have such rich businessman?
Why is a man from poor Mexico the riches man (at least he was a couple of years ago). Why has Modi got so much that he can be included in the rich of the world?
It’s because of corruption.
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February 24, 2014 at 8:11 PM
In India, corruption is a big issue but I think bigger issue is lack of economic opportunities for everyone. Income disparity, corruption and other things are going to stay in any kind of system; they can only be contained.
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February 24, 2014 at 5:55 PM
correction:
Ambani not Modi.
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February 25, 2014 at 4:30 AM
“why has Modi got so much that he can be included in the rich of the world?
It’s because of corruption.”
what has kejriwal did to be in list of corruption crusader
kejriwal asked modi of his rally expenses and bjp filed cases on same on kejriwal and he still is silent…why he doesn’t have the guts to face judiciary or counter file cases
corruption crusader exposes cases through judicial process not nautanki
subramaniam swamy exposed 2g in court
coal scam was exposed by missing file..tiday
why so much silence on augusta chopper scam (its worth 3600 cr) and directly it takes a certain godmother on loop
crusader again corruption took another u turn yesterday said communalism is bigger threat than corruption so now he says corruption is secondary lol
http://www.firstpost.com/politics/communalism-a-bigger-problem-than-corruption-kejriwal-at-islamic-centre-1407043.html
at islamic centre lol
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February 23, 2014 at 5:18 PM
LOL. frustrated soul.
I dont understand what people like you have to with india. All saudi people sitting in USA/India keep worshipping destruction for india and chant nuke nuke India, nuke nuke USA to your allah. No one cares for anti nationals. True indian either hindi, muslim or from any religion/caste will never let anti national succeed in their evil agenda.
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February 23, 2014 at 5:20 PM
Above comment was for oldgold. And yes every anti national element 🙂
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February 23, 2014 at 6:00 PM
Lets be courteous to other bloggers. If the views are opposite don’t make them our enemies.
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February 23, 2014 at 6:01 PM
Yes, I know all about this anti national stuff.
On a site run by some internet company paid by BJP puts names of people on ‘desh drohi’ list if they write anything against Modi or criticise BJP.
Such terrorism is intolerable.
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February 25, 2014 at 10:18 AM
>In India, corruption is a big issue but I think bigger issue is lack of economic opportunities for everyone.
I agree with lack of business opportunity, but whatever there is is quickly snatched up by crony capitalism – who perhaps don’t even want economic opportunities for everyone.
If one *has* to give more economic opportunities to everyone then the structure of business procedures have to be changed (and an unwilling government won’t do it).
In a country of a billion people only a handful run business. *That’s * the situation and IMO a direct result of corruption.
Root cause is corruption.
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February 23, 2014 at 4:58 PM
The truth is different.
**According to newsreports,**
Yadav, while addressing reporters in Mumbai on Tuesday, offered a vague response to the question. “If they give us Rs 9,99,999, and if people of Mumbai accept it, then it would not go to (AAP’s) Political Affairs Committee. Once it crosses Rs 10 lakh, then this issue will be placed before AAP’s supreme authority, the Political Affairs Committee, which will deliberate on whether this money is tainted,” India Today website quoted him as saying.
Yadav, however, denied making any vague comment on this issue. He told ET that he had been quoted out of context and that the party will not accept donation from Ambani. “I was trying to clarify that if the money is less than Rs 10 lakh and is donated online then it’s possible we might not discover it immediately. But once it comes to our notice the money will be returned,” he told ET.
http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2014-02-20/news/47527095_1_yogendra-yadav-aap-the-aam-aadmi-party
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February 23, 2014 at 2:03 PM
actually its more mukesh vs anil ambani…his last file signed by him gave 323 cr to anil
paswan the sicularist joined modi in bihar and more to come…nitish may come post poll and one has to see how many rats leave the sinking ship
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February 23, 2014 at 4:59 PM
Paswans hasnt joined yet. His express his desire, talks are on. Even, NCP leader pawar expressed his desire 2 weeks back and criticized Congress for keep raising Gujarat riot issue inspite of clean chit to Modi.
When Bjp denied ,Yesterday pawar took u-turn and raised gujarat issue issue to criticize modi.
Personally, i dont wish BJP allows any of them, Pawar is denied, so will be Paswan. These rats are opportunistic, they just spoil work done by government. They will bring more damage to NDA govt. We dont want such people join NDA.
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February 23, 2014 at 5:03 PM
The clean chit is not even by the High Court let alone the Supreme court.
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February 23, 2014 at 5:14 PM
LOL
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February 23, 2014 at 5:44 PM
Funny, no? This clean chit business. 😉
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February 25, 2014 at 4:17 AM
what is clean chit business first learn to speak properly
does sit, or cbi was comes under the control of bjp or central government
first kejriwal got any clean chit on his poll expenditure, foreign funding or even his land cases before he became cm
before talking about gas one is even aware in 2012 second half the same man who was an activist of iac was talking about sting operation and how he got hidden file , what he did for 1 and half year
yahan likhne se nahin matter will be resolved in judiciary if one has the will to do so, there are allready 2 pil on it not filed by any kejriwal and matter is on and thats where it will end be
for the same matter:
oil rejected kg basin in 96 and it was reliance who later took it and discovered gases …issue is on pricing and monopoly
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February 23, 2014 at 5:02 PM
Akali Dal and Shiv Sena have conviction in NDA’s common minimum program. They are most faithful alliance, with similar positive for India.
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February 23, 2014 at 2:08 PM
http://www.sunday-guardian.com/news/aaps-plan-unstable-government-snap-polls#.UwlcbsoS-vJ.twitter
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February 23, 2014 at 5:12 PM
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February 23, 2014 at 5:22 PM
AAP wants Ambani donations and next day yogendra yadav denies.
LOL
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February 23, 2014 at 5:23 PM
what is PAC? AAP’s topmost political leadership. LOL
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February 23, 2014 at 5:37 PM
He’s explaining the procedure of people donating a certain amount, and what happens if it exceeds that amount and the consideration over it, especially from those who are considered corrupt.
Nowhere did he say AAP would accept.
Ambani owned TV channels are happy to make it sound like that.
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February 23, 2014 at 5:38 PM
BJP is quite nervous about AAP anyway.
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February 23, 2014 at 6:35 PM
Saw a speech by Kejri.
Lost all respect. Seems like a shameless,irresponsible and increasingly desparate oppurtunist. One has to be delusional and a special kind of stoopid to see anything goos here!!
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February 24, 2014 at 2:46 AM
I dislike Modis speeches. All those pauses and a 20th century style of rhetoric and garajna. Kejriwals speeches in comparison are simple and i like that he says loudly what people say in their drawing rooms about corruption.
What I do agree is that the follow up to his speeches comes on the website and not everyone goes there for clarificatiion. For instance yhere are pictures of rs3 to farmers to bring his point home what he said in rohtak.
Which speech are you talking about and what did you not like about it?
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February 25, 2014 at 4:37 AM
you mean say despite having an age gap of a decade more one can show more energy or garjana and other keep on taking glycodin
comparison is done on equal and stature..modi address lakhs of people all over india who come to listen him and first anyone should that for once
he is the head of a national party who may form government not any nautanki who can’t even get 10-20 seats all over india
mass leaders are not born in drawing room but in public
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February 25, 2014 at 11:27 AM
Black Money at IIT-Madras
This is not about Kejriwal or Modi. This is the rot which only ‘aam aadmi’ can take care!! India can never go to the next stage of advancement/development before corruption is rooted out.
Now before that I also feel majority of Indians are at a point where they need to have a shot again with BJP/ Modi to douse the fire within (mann ki bhadhaas). This type of situation arose in mid/late 90s and everyone was getting crazy that bring BJP and all problems would be resolved and we would all have a Ram Rajya under Advani ji. However nothing of the sorts happened and its end became so haphazard that Congress was able to hold on to power for good 10 years after that. Also the collective false belief / apprehensions of Muslims populace that BJP/ Hindutva forces coming to power somehow meant their end was snuffed out and eliminated. So I definitely feel this thirst-quenching exercise must take place before AAP/ Kejriwal / aam aadmi can have a go at the real issues.
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February 25, 2014 at 8:12 PM
in 90’s bjp never had government for a while, it did in 99 under vajpayee which on every front was better than this decade of paralysis that to when india was under worldwide sanctions for 3 years after nuclear test(imagine that today)
case in piint who are most of better performing chief ministers who did development
modi
chauhan
nitish(was with them for 17 years)
manohar panicker
congress utilised this fear of communalism :
why catholic goa voted for then and why now in gujrat after they ruled
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February 25, 2014 at 8:16 PM
in last election a quarter of muslims in gujrat unlike india
people who bring casteism must know this:
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Caste-based-reservations-must-continue-Sonia-Gandhi-says/articleshow/29913248.cms
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February 25, 2014 at 9:02 PM
My friend if BJP was so good during their last stint or performed so well, I don’t see any reason why Congress was brought back and that too for such a long time….a good 10 years.
All political parties are more or less same and we have seen corrupt leaders in both parties. The problem is recently it’s become free- for-all and corruption gone totally out of hand. There is a need to stem the rot and something needs to be done whether its Modi or Kejriwal. There was a lot of wealth created in last few years but most of the development money has been devoured by white collared criminals and mind you politicians are the last in the chain.
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February 25, 2014 at 9:46 PM
http://www.ibtl.in/news/opinion/2097/how-bjp-congress-misread-2004-and-2009-results-india-paid-the-price/
rise of regional players to in 09:
chiranjeevi cut the vote in andhra
raj thackrey in maharashtra
up various players, and many small vote cutters…
will be surprised to know even in that phase pan india vote % was allmost identical in 09
question to be asked why they dumped advani, swaraj and focussed on governance
why us , uk and various others strong democracy have 2 party at centre despite fedralism and one get fractured mandate relying on them and even increased corruption
rise of any strong central party with number is the need of hour for strong decision
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February 25, 2014 at 8:56 PM
btw which is third front or 4th
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Third-Front-takes-shape-but-Naveen-Patnaik-distances-himself/articleshow/31009613.cms
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February 25, 2014 at 1:03 PM
The 3 Cs Corruption, Communalism, Casteism feed Indian politics. All the three are interlinked. One feeds on the other two. When one talks of corruption, the other two should not be forgotten. But the reformers are afraid to touch the other two which are far more dangerous and disruptive.
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February 25, 2014 at 10:40 PM
http://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/sting-claims-malpractices-by-opinion-poll-agencies/article1-1188186.aspx
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February 25, 2014 at 11:24 PM
Have been recently travelling through Maharashtra and Karnataka. There is an undeniable Modi groundswell building up here as the elections approach. More people are willing to give him the benefit of doubt, and it will take a huge effort from Cong+AAP to derail this momentum. TIme is too short, and IMO, the Cong-AAP strategists badly miscalculated the Delhi experiment. Unless there is some massive scandal against Modi revealed in the runup, he will guide the BJP to at least 220+ seats. If that happens, all the chunnu-munnu players will jump onboard his bandwagon.
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February 25, 2014 at 11:26 PM
Have been recently travelling through Maharashtra and Karnataka. From what I feel talking to people around, there is an undeniable Modi groundswell building up here as the elections approach. More people are willing to give him the benefit of doubt, and it will take a huge effort from Cong+AAP to derail this momentum. TIme is too short, and IMO, the Cong-AAP strategists badly miscalculated the Delhi experiment. Unless there is some massive scandal against Modi revealed in the runup, he will guide the BJP to at least 220+ seats. If that happens, all the chunnu-munnu players will jump onboard his bandwagon.
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February 26, 2014 at 9:17 AM
Cool. Which places there?
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February 26, 2014 at 12:08 AM
http://www.niticentral.com/2014/02/26/the-price-of-gas-lessons-for-arvind-kejriwal-193584.html
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February 26, 2014 at 4:17 AM
http://profit.ndtv.com/news/corporates/article-supreme-court-issues-arrest-warrant-against-sahara-chief-372865?ch&pfrom=home-lateststories
Many bollywood personalities dance to his tunes.
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February 26, 2014 at 6:32 AM
The mainstream media is mainly BJP bought.
When there was the fake sting operation against AAP it was shown the whole day by them. When proved that it was doctored there was not a sound.
NOW there’s a sting against Modi’s rallies, and how they get people to attend, and hoe peopl wear caps and pose as muslim supporters of Modi – NO ONE is even mentioning it. It’s been blacked out.
But here it is.
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February 26, 2014 at 6:39 AM
There are several videos. I’m posting another one.
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February 26, 2014 at 7:23 AM
ya bjp is in centre and has information and broadcasting ministry under its control to censor
bjp rise lies with social media and the biigest critics of mainstream media over the years are who
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February 26, 2014 at 7:45 AM
http://delhielection.ind.in/2013/12/02/cicero-associates-delhi-opinion-poll-survey-dec-2013-aap-38-50-seat-bjp-11-17-seats/
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February 26, 2014 at 7:49 AM
reality bjp 32 aap 28
blast from past: know na who is yogendra yadav ,,the sting crusader
http://ibnlive.in.com/news/exit-polls-show-gujarat-swinging-away-from-bjp/54022-3.html
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February 26, 2014 at 2:40 PM
http://www.one.in/firstpost/delhi-polls-aap-survey-claims-it-will-win-38-to-50-seats-813100.html
courtesy: yogendra yadav, ex advisor of sonia gandhi
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February 26, 2014 at 6:36 AM
Goa is no longer ‘catholic’ Goa. RSS and other hindutva branches have been working hard for decades to dilute their concentration. Today they have been outnumbered.
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February 26, 2014 at 7:19 AM
that is what they teach in madarsa or what or calling community sickhindoo
goa ki history starts with portugesd handover of army..its a tourism spot with lots of migration over the year
what next bhaiyya of up and bihar do migration because of rss
what one called evangeliat or wahabi money for conversion
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February 26, 2014 at 8:26 AM
Goa was never Catholic, rather Goa always had a large minority Catholic population. Goa was always majority non-Christian, just because bwood stereotyped it as being Christian does not make it so.
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February 26, 2014 at 8:58 AM
Yes, you may be right NyKavi about the catholics never being a majority. My point was that it is NOT a ‘catholic’ Goa who voted BJP in power because catholics and muslims just love Modi/BJP, as seemed to be suggested in a comment above. This is the part;
>why catholic goa voted for then and why now in gujrat after they ruled
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February 26, 2014 at 2:11 PM
time to expose hate more
http://www.telegraphindia.com/1120307/jsp/frontpage/story_15222578.jsp
n the 2012 Gujarat Assembly elections, 31% of Gujarati Muslims voted for Modi led BJP
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February 26, 2014 at 9:06 AM
Actually Goa had a Christian majority till a century ago or something though the change started coming about in British times itself:
http://www.goacom.com/religion-articles/719-goa-s-mystery-of-the-vanishing-christian
The Right isn’t responsible for this shift though for good measure they’ve targeted Christians too everywhere they’ve found the chance. The ransacking of churches and so on.
On Bollywood what’s interesting though is the degree to which masala cinema often represented a kind of colonial world in this sense. It wasn’t just the stereotyping but the fact that the latter seemed truer to certain colonial realities than the present in which it operated. One might even say with only slight overstatement that masala (or more precisely the Desai ‘carnivalesque’ brand…) is already a certain form of nostalgia. And in this context Desai finally bringing Bachchan to British India in Mard is perhaps not entirely surprising. The point has been made by others that empires are often better breeding grounds for multiculturalism than contemporary nation-states. The Desai brand of masala cinema was a multicultural paradise of sorts and not surprisingly the director referenced the colonial past more than anyone else in the same (super)genre.
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February 26, 2014 at 9:17 AM
satyam its perception now if north east became christian(with various full scale missionary operation) it doesn’t mean christians are targetting right
to each its own…btw enjoyed dum maro dum
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February 26, 2014 at 9:23 AM
No because all conversions are not created equal! that’s precisely the point. In any case the current discussion from my side isn’t about conversions. That’s not why Goa’s christian population decreased.
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February 26, 2014 at 9:28 AM
exactly and thats why the intial discussion was baseless not the reply
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February 26, 2014 at 9:19 AM
Here it would be interesting to track Bachchan’s own Pukar where he starts off being sympathetic to the Portuguese colonizer and actively ‘anti-Indian’ (in terms of the freedom movement) and eventually switches over (a move that is not very convincing in the film). Years later when Abhishek does DMD and returns to this site a mystery unfolds which has more masala and colonial contours than one might think (a point GF has always rightly insisted on). DMD’s Goa is of course very contemporary and very unpleasant in precise ways. This claustrophobic perhaps even paranoid ‘site’ is marked by contemporary politics in certain ways and not coincidentally it is a tale of ghosts and graves with a principal protagonist who is himself a specter of sorts.
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February 26, 2014 at 9:22 AM
exactly a friend recommended me…this is vintage
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February 26, 2014 at 9:07 AM
[edited]
goa has 68% hindi population as census of 2011, point was voting of catholic population and of gujrati population…not any rss
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February 26, 2014 at 9:15 AM
you’ll really have to watch your language and if you can’t it’s best that you keep away from political discussions.
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February 26, 2014 at 9:18 AM
rubbish thing get rubbish response only
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February 26, 2014 at 9:21 AM
Just your saying so doesn’t make it rubbish which is why being civil is a good start.. or would you like people to respond the same way if they consider what you’re saying ‘rubbish’?
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February 26, 2014 at 9:25 AM
i refute always you are wrong and then say something ..to wrongly interpret and wild accusation gets the same treatment
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February 26, 2014 at 9:11 AM
neither is gujrati muslim nor goa catholic this is what they comprehend…goa once was majority christian but there has been migration of anglo india
bachchan has a movie on independence of goa and son dum maro dum
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February 27, 2014 at 7:10 PM
Choice is between Mission(Modi) vs Comission(RaGa) vs Confusion(Kejriwal). Choice is between Vision (Modi) vs Television (Kejriwal) vs Illusion (RaGa)
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February 28, 2014 at 7:35 AM
http://m.indiatoday.in//story/gujarat-land-scam-exposed-at-kandla-port/1/143100.html
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February 28, 2014 at 7:44 AM
Two things amaze me. They don’t fit with the Indian style of democracy.
1. Modi promises to make India like gujarat. Even if one believed that Gujarat is the ‘best’ state in India the point is – it was the Gujarat government who was responsible for it – NOT the PM.
So what is he/BJP proposing?
2. Often Modi supporters come to AAP pages and declare ‘I’m not a supporter of any party, they are all corrupt and the same. I’m a Modi supporter. I’ll vote for him’.
Either they don’t know that you vote for the candidate of a party, BJP in this case, or they want to brainwash and turn the whole thing into a personality cult. So only some thousand people will actually be voting for Modi, the rest will vote for someone else.
@satyam
Thanks for editing some unsavoury comments.
The trick is to terrorise, and get as crude and insulting and personal as possible so that the person writing things that don’t suit them, will stop saying anything about BJP/MODI
It’s happening everywhere.
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March 1, 2014 at 2:26 AM
old story which got its ass kicked
before b team a team manis tiwary and company tried hard to saveface for years
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March 1, 2014 at 2:34 AM
http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/manish-tewari-accuses-narendra-modi-loss-to-gujarat-exchequer/1/237092.html
a big u turn when people asked for judicial probe another one was diggy calling for ban on exit poll repeated by yogendra yadav
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March 1, 2014 at 2:28 AM
Former Delhi Chief Minister and AAP chief Arvind Kejriwal and his team of activists kept on defending utter misbehaviour by their Law Minister Somnath Bharti. Even when co-workers of the party and various women’s organisations and political parties kept condemning his abominable act of leading a chunk of rowdy mob to force women of Nigerian nationality to give urine samples in public and enforced various other kind of humiliation on them, their party leaders and ministerial colleagues remained abrasive and shunned any question of dropping him from the cabinet.
While the judicial Commission set up by the LG of Delhi has indicted him, it is yet to be seen whether Arvind Kejriwal comes out in the open to apologise for the condemnable act of former Law Minister Somnath Bharti and the crime their party committed by defending his actions which was none less than an assault on women.
Earlier on Friday, February 28, former Delhi Law Minister Somnath Bharti had been indicted by commission of inquiry into the midnight raid carried by Bharti against some African women in Khirki Extension.
The inquiry panel headed by retired Additional District & Session Judge (ADJ) BL Garg has submitted its report to Lt Governor Najeeb Jung.
he report was on Friday forwarded to Lt Governor’s office and the State Government’s Home and Law and Justice departments seeking their views on it within two days.
The probe, which was conducted by retired Additional District and Session Judge BL Garg, has prima facie not found credence into the allegations of the former Delhi Law Minister.
The report indicated that the police acted as per the law and that the Minister’s supporters intervened in their duty.
It also states that police had not recovered any kind of drugs from the houses of those African girls.
The Lt Governor had ordered the probe into the incident which took place last month and involved Bharti leading a group of locals on a midnight raid on some African residents of Khirki Extension in South Delhi.
The Lt Governor had ordered the probe into the incident which took place last month and allegedly involved Bharti leading a group of locals on a midnight raid on some African residents of Khirki Extension in South Delhi.
Bharti had allegedly gone to a locality in Malviya Nagar where he claimed that a drug and prostitution ring was being run by some African nationals.
Initially, he had demanded that police raid the place. However, when the latter refused, saying they had no warrant to do so, he led the mob on the raid.
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March 1, 2014 at 3:08 AM
trick is to play victim after using unparliamentry language and get retaliation
trick is inablity to defend what one say and unable to refute counterview and reason on context let alone a coherent view and still kept blabbering with furstration and accusing other
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March 12, 2014 at 1:37 AM
Ex Delhi Police Commissioner Neeraj Kumar reads out a poem to Kejriwal … HILARIOUS..
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March 12, 2014 at 8:13 AM
Totally Hilarious.
With each passing day, AAP proves that it is nothing but a regular political outfit. These guys did not descend from heaven, all lily white and pure. They too are humans, full of normal human emotions like blind ambition, envy, jealousy, competitiveness, all rolled into a typical political mindset. Witness the scenes of dejection by ordinary AAP workers who are pissed off at the high handedness of its leadership, which is going around distributing seats to the highest bidder. Stalwarts like Shazia Ilmi and Kumar Vishwas too have expressed frustration at the direction being taken by a self-righteous Kejri. And the man himself seems to be busy painting false pictures and giving certificates to the CM’s of other states, while ignoring his own 49 day record. The people of India are not fools, they will gently show him his true aukat in 45 days.
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March 12, 2014 at 8:19 AM
Kejri is a one man army. When he loses one follower, There are four waiting to join. We need some anarchy to empower people. Mamata also used this tactic and now she is sitting pretty having defeated the left in its own bastion.
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March 12, 2014 at 10:07 AM
> giving certificates to the CM’s of other states (15 years), while ignoring his own 49 day record.
I’ve added what you missed. It will make the picture of an unfair anarchist Kejriwal clearer, who dares to give a certificate on the basis of the results to a man ruling for only 15 years while he himself couldn’t achieve much in the looooong 49 days he was CM.
Forget Kejriwal, here’s his brother also giving Modi a certificate about Gujarat .
http://indiatoday.intoday.in/video/gujarat-narendra-modi-prahlad-modi-government-fudged-reports/1/262066.html
>Stalwarts like Shazia Ilmi and Kumar Vishwas too have expressed frustration at the direction being taken by a self-righteous Kejri.
His direction is the jhaaduu chalao route direction for many days. He’s very busy with other aspects of the election campagn. Wherever he goes there is a crowd of *aaye hue log* NOT *laaye hue log*.
There are other people making decisions about candidates and other things.
Forget AAP what about discontent in (secular) BJP regarding seat tickets.
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March 12, 2014 at 12:03 PM
Yes those “aaye hue log” love to trample, stampede, destroy public property, impose chaos on the daily lives of commuters of a bustling city like Mumbai.
The “TV Drama a Day” has to be enacted, at any cost, come what may. It did not matter to Kejri that he was going to inconvenience the lives of thousands with his publicity gimmicks, He had to board a local just to show he is a “Aam Aadmi”. It did not matter that the real Aam Aadmi, the poor rozi-roti kamane waala was getting his rozi-roti snatched away due to these stupid antics of Kejri. Enough Said!
And when questioned, all the AAPists conveniently blame the police and railway authorities. Kejri saab aa rahe they, unke liye acha bandobast nahi kiya! Kejri to aasman se utrey hue paigambar hain, unkey liye red carpets bichney chahiye. What a piece of crock!
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March 12, 2014 at 12:08 PM
And did not pay tolls in Gujrat, bahut krantikari. ..
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March 12, 2014 at 12:31 PM
The media is simply exaggerating. For mumbaikar, it is only a small inconvenience. Mumbai witnesses so many days off due to political outfits deciding to call bandhs, the traders shutting down mumbai for days opposing some taxes, the auto and taxiwallahs suddenly going on strikes. It is not only mumbai but Hyderabad too during telengana and seemandhra agitations. Anna Hazare inconvenienced Delhi for so many weeks and everyone was supporting him and media telecasted every move shutting off other news expecting arab spring like situation. In front of all this, Kejri’s hungama is small and insignificant.
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March 12, 2014 at 12:50 PM
Calm down Aap supporters, they are metal detectors, not mental detectors, Kejriwal will not be exposed…
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March 12, 2014 at 10:10 AM
Hope you watched the rest of the programme, before and after this recital by a non supporter.
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March 12, 2014 at 10:20 AM
Forgot to add. All is well Re: Shazia and Vishwas. Don’t believe the media so wishfully. Go to his website and get a clearer picture.
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March 12, 2014 at 11:09 AM
Here you go NyKavi – straight from the horse’s mouth. Kumar Vishwas’ tweet about this matter !!!!
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March 12, 2014 at 12:06 PM
Bahut hee krantikari hai bhai, bahut hee krantikari…
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March 12, 2014 at 5:02 PM
koi shaq?
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March 12, 2014 at 12:09 PM
AnJo, He did not have any responses to Rahul kanwals q either. .
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March 12, 2014 at 5:07 PM
You expect a media man’s trumped up allegations for pleasing his mai baaps, should be answered by a party’s leader, but the same leader’s questions go unananswered by Modi who runs miles from impromptu inteviews and question and answer sessions.
If you are interested let me know and I’ll give you the complete information link to this matter which Rahul Kanwal (LOL he takes his name seriously) had brought up.
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March 12, 2014 at 5:16 PM
Kejri kee pol khul gai saari….
Bahut krantikari hai bhai bahut krantikari. ..
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March 12, 2014 at 5:24 PM
A compulsive liar and a flip flopper who has no problem fixing the interview and treating middle class as fools is well qualified to speak about principles…..bahut krantikari hai bhai bahut krantikari. …
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March 12, 2014 at 5:26 PM
I thought intelligent people will at least see the video mastered to put together different parts from different times, so you have the ‘after interview part’ coming ‘before the before interview part’. You see the book open on the table and suddenly it is closed in the next scene but the conversation is supposed to be without break and so on.
Woh bahut krantikari hai bhai bahut krantikari!!!
Modi itna darr gaya iss krantikari se ki jaldi jaldi allies banane laga kahin yeh bahut bade krantikari ki vajah se PM ki kursi na haath se chali jaaye.
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March 12, 2014 at 5:33 PM
Hum jeetey toh achcha, hum haarey toh achchai haari…
Bahut krantikari hai bhai bahut krantikari. .
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March 12, 2014 at 5:35 PM
Just one example of dangerous BJP’s flipflop;
Yedurappa now go – Yedurappa now come back
No ticket only member – yes ticket, fight election.
One example of dangerous compulsive lying.
We will fight corruption – flip over – but we will compusively give tickets to at least 40% corrupt candidated announced till now.
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March 12, 2014 at 5:52 PM
Kejri has given ticket to the guy who reversed khemkas orders against vadra for crying out loud.
But don’t wish to engage in tu tu main main, so signing off…bahut krantikari hai bhai bahut krantikari hai. ..
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March 12, 2014 at 6:05 PM
What rubbish.
I have seen no such name in the list.
Show me such a list.
Bahut krantikari hai bhai bahut krantikari. – yeh Kejriwal!!!
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March 12, 2014 at 12:28 PM
I think Kejriwal has shown that he is not capable of anything constructive and falling prey to same temptations that others have before. Several of these people who start of with ‘honorable’ intentions eventually start believing their coming to power and remaining in news is more important and that these ends are more important than the means. I pity the so called ‘intellectuals’ and ‘liberals’ who get sucked into supporting him because they are so angry towards Modi for his perceived championing of one religion or group. Their self righteousness blinds them to everything else.
And, one has to feel sorry for the contortions they have to go through to defend Kejri or pull down Modi!
In the end, voting right is an empowerment to be used judiciously and not an instrument to make a statement. I would any day take a chai wala who sees Modi for what he is worth i.e the only hope in these murkey waters inspite of his imperfections than an intellectual or a liberal who would enable Congress to return or embolden these joker.
These so called self righteous ntellectuals have their heads so far up their asses that they lose touch with reality!
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March 12, 2014 at 5:20 PM
He’s desperately allying with corrupt parties and people left right and centre – all because he wants to become the PM.
He’s so afraid that while they unconstitutionally announced his name as PM early on, they are unable to announce his seat. They know Kejriwal will pounce on him and stand against him – maybe to lose – but also to end this cosy arrangement that congress and BJP has had for years of not putting up strong candidates where a party’s elite stands from.
All AAP supporters support a decision of his standing from wherever Modi stands. They don’t mind him losing. But principles will win.
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March 13, 2014 at 1:46 AM
http://www.mediacrooks.com/2014/03/the-reincarnation-of-arvind-kejriwal.html#.UyFFUM46Xbo
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March 12, 2014 at 12:30 PM
Btw, let me give an anecdote of Gujarat, the state that Kejri is trying his best to malign.
Last week there was a Gulfood Fair in Dubai, which is one of the world’s largest annual Food Exhibitions. Happened to meet one Chilli merchant from the Eastern part of Gujurat, members of whose family are well-known Congress supporters from the Panchmahals. They were traditional Chilli traders, and used to buy from farmers in the Guj-MP border belt and distribute it around the state. So this guy, now has progressed to exporting Chillies globally, to as far as Mexico. Due to the various industry development schemes in Guj, he was able to get land allocated to open chilli processing units, and manufacture pizza-peppers and other related items globally. The state govt. has sanctioned land and infrastructure for farmers to be able to keep product in cold storage, labs to test the various features and certify export quality food, etc. So, he is able to gather chilli from Western MP, get it tested in labs in Ahmedabad, get them loaded onto trucks and ready in containers at the ports in less than 48 hrs. He said none of this would be possible had it not been for the excellent infrastructure development that has happened in the last decade under Modi. He does not deny issues, but states that net-net the pace and enormous scope of planning that has occured out there has lifted many many lives into prosperity, from the farmers he contracts with, to the transport companies, cold storage companies, labs, ports, etc. People who want to criticize industrialization can keep doing so, but the fact is one cannot even think of increasing employment without increasing the pace of develpment.
Kejri can go on his smudge campaign, showing various angles of half-full glasses. But he will never be able to hide the truth on the ground, which real people in real situations are propagating out there.
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March 12, 2014 at 12:38 PM
Kejri vs Modi factcheck:
http://www.business-standard.com/article/politics/kejriwal-s-questions-to-modi-fact-check-114031200400_1.html
Another one:
http://www.indiaspend.com/cover-story/kejriwal-vs-modi-fact-vs-non-fact-62446
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March 12, 2014 at 12:46 PM
What we don’t understand is there is a vast difference between developing Gujrat and the rest of India esp the interior states of UP/ Bihar. Gujrat development is more a case of its strategic geographical location and vast access to coastline leading to heavy import/export access point to India with Persian Gulf, Red Sea, and Mediterranean and generally the West. It’s always been ahead economically due to natural deep drafted seaports and access to big ships. It’s also the hub of major oil/gas refineries which comes natural to the vast deserted land. With the rise of Ambanis and energy driven world in recent years most of these are controlled by people on the west coast mainly marwaris/gujjus. Even now most of the big gas carriers have access only in Guajarati seaports.
Then there is fact that lot of Gujju wealth is NRI driven and the amount of money pouring in money transfers due to strong family network among Gujrati community.
There is a certainly a desperation to bring Modi by a majority as he seems to be the last strong leader of a political party on paper. There is a big vacuum of leadership in BJP itself. Congress is all over the place. Manmohan Singh wants a way out of public life. Rahul is immature and more into coke addiction than problems facing India. So Modi remains the last hope for a lot of people.
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March 12, 2014 at 1:02 PM
Let me just say that every market participant I have recently met, every financial adviser, currency specialist, etc of their ilk has warned that if the BJP does not come to power, we can kiss the 60 level goodbye and enter a new dawn of 1USD = Rs 80. The levels today are purely based on speculative confidence. The rupee has stabilized a bit because of manipulations (opening of second swap window and so forth) and also because Chidu has pulled wool over our eyes, by shifting major expenditure components to the next fiscal, thus artificially narrowing the CAD. Expect this CAD to balloon in the next fiscal. And if a stable functioning central govt is not found operating in 2015, we can all kiss our hard earned Indian assets goodbye for a very long time.
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March 12, 2014 at 5:14 PM
Another thing that they are fooling the public with is that Modi will make India like Gujarat. How???
If Gujarat is as great as it is he is taking the credit for it as CM, and if he becomes PM he will take the credit of the other states beconing like Gujaratr?? Won’t the CMs of the states take the credit – or was it Manmohan who made Gujarat so called great as PM?
Taking people for fools as always. I hope they learn a lesson soon.
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March 12, 2014 at 1:28 PM
India is not gujarat. Compact, with one major language, one major religion, strong middleclass and rich class dominating the poor.
India is a country of different languages, different religions, the poor being the major chunk of the population who have their own political masters, caste and communal leaders and above all an activist supreme court. Even if bjp gets majority, the federal structure wont allow Modi to impose his dictat and there will always be conflict of interest. Ruling a state government is different from ruling a central government.
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March 12, 2014 at 1:33 PM
Advani, Arun Jaitley will be more practical choices as they are somewhat flexible and accommodating.
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March 13, 2014 at 3:14 AM
u must be joking sanju – advani????? that old fella is riding on modi’s shoulders since 5 years on Gandhinagar’s (Guj. capital) seat – he has a very bad public image and he couldnt much when BJP was in power – and u tell him as a practical choice? jaitley is not a pm material at all. Modi by all means deserves a 5 yrs term
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March 12, 2014 at 1:37 PM
Agreed there, but what’s irksome is putting Modi only as the poster boy of development and taking Gujrat as a model state. A lot many things are coming naturally to Gujrat and he is there in the right place at right time.
I am one of the few who believe more than the governance it’s the corruption which is at the core of all the ailments. Stagnation in economy has taken place since we never went to next level in infrastructure development due to rampant corruption at all levels. Also more than the politicians it’s the white collared thieves who have ripped the country.
BJP if it is in the same format as earlier will be no better esp. since it has a bunch of corrupt leaders in prominent position.
Until now I am very pleased with AAP and Kejri as they have been instrumental in shaking the status quo at least.
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March 12, 2014 at 2:20 PM
Corruption off course is at the root of all ailments. But do not make the mistake of thinking that there is no corruption in developed countries. Kejriwal talks of a utopia which is non-existent. There may be some small homogenized population country (eg the Switzerland) where corruption is almost non-existent. But by and large it exists everywhere, in managed doses. It is omnipresent, the only difference being that in places like China or the West, things get done, which enable commonfolk to at least obtain basic employment. In India, the rulers take money and do not deliver, thus reducing the people to abject poverty.
Modi works only because he has delivered, while keeping corruption in check. So people are ready to extrapolate his record in Gujarat to the pan-India level. One can never eradicate corruption, it is etched in the human psyche and simply impossible to eradicate.
The video of his brother criticizing him actually proves that Modi is not given to nepotism like every other national leader. At least we know that he is not going to be personally corrupt. Without any family, who will he give the loot to?
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March 12, 2014 at 2:34 PM
Having a family does not automatically mean loot and corruption.
A person not being a family man is more dangerous than him or her being a family man or woman. He or she is answerable to no one in the family and the family wont tie him or her down. He or she lives for himself or herself, his or her ego is the biggest thing that we are seeing. Personal power is his or her family and he or she enjoys all the trappings of power like living in big houses, the unprecedented security at all levels, the expensive travels and tours, the sycophants singing praises. Even a maharaja cant dream of a better life. We have single men and women in politics, some of whom are megalomaniacs.
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March 12, 2014 at 2:38 PM
At least they die and leave nothing behind to no-one, and do not initiate a multi-generational loot of national wealth.
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March 12, 2014 at 2:50 PM
Yes, they die and leave nothing behind to no one.
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March 12, 2014 at 2:42 PM
And btw, all that personal power would not accrue if he/she did not deliver to the public. The people are not fools to elect him 3 times in a row.
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March 12, 2014 at 2:53 PM
The Indian public are not that intelligent.
The one man and one woman have their political friends whom they nurture, protect and shield. Political families are replacing traditional families.
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March 12, 2014 at 4:20 PM
Great! insult the intelligence of the avg Indian. You will be surprised at their perception of things. Had the junta been dumb, Cong would not have been booted out mercilessly in this last assembly election cycle.
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March 12, 2014 at 5:40 PM
Even Sheela Dixit got elected 3 times – and Congress has been reelected – how many times?
Is that proof of good work?
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March 12, 2014 at 3:30 PM
Corruption is there in all societies which I agree but the level of corruption in recent times is now reaching Pakistani and African nation level where everything is up for sale. There is no Imaan Dharam if translated in filmy language. Just today there was a tweet from Sonu Sood on one of the newly developed projects which is summary of Indian development.
Sonu Sood
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March 12, 2014 at 4:46 PM
Massive response to Arvind Kejriwal and AAP in Mumbai. I would describe this as Chaos in BJP/Congress minds .. 🙂
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March 12, 2014 at 10:06 PM
Repeated spewing of BS does not convert lies into truth. Randomly spewing out figures describing 1000s of crores of scams and announcing that they will cut water/electricity rates by 50% in Mumbai is not going to fool anyone now. The electorate is aware of what his Delhi record is. Kejri talks about Delhi as if he went into a village and converted it into Shanghai in 49 days! Just passing random diktats and orders to initiate laws, and then bailing out in 49 days without even seeing those diktats through to implementation does not a record make. Who is he trying to fool? The 50% electricity cut has now resulted in the DISCOMS getting back huge subsidies from the govt, otherwise Delhi wudve faced massive power cuts from the start of summer. Did Kejri even bother to followup on his ham-handed diktat? Kejri keeps rehashing the same tired lies about Guj. Those in the audience who have never been to Guj may get duped. But those that know about Guj will get turned off totally.
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March 13, 2014 at 1:07 PM
OK forget Kejriwal. Here’s an older video about Gujarat. Now?
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March 13, 2014 at 2:28 PM
No one ever claimed Gujarat to be a version of UAE! But it will get there, which is better than other Indian states that are stuck in the 60s.
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March 13, 2014 at 3:01 PM
And even after all this, there are people in the video saying that they get 24hrs electricity. He could not find a single slum out there. Everyone is living in brick-n-mortar houses in the poor areas. Yes, there are issues with garbage collection, broken streets in these poor areas, gutter drainage, etc. But does anyone realize how big a task it would be to totally revamp that infrastructure in the old areas of Ahmedabad? Where will the funds come for that? Gujarat gives a whole bunch of taxes to the center, but does not get a penny back in return. Its not like Nitish’s Bihar where he wants to make it a permanent-special-state receiving obscene amounts of funds from the center.
And if you take a car ride from JFK through I678 towards the Whitestone Bridge, I bet one will feel he has landed in a mid-tier city in India, so bad is the condition of roads right here in NYC!
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March 13, 2014 at 3:05 PM
I lived in AP(Hyd), Karnataka(Bangalore) and Gujarat(Ahmedabad) .. Frankly I found Bangalore best followed by Hyderabad and then Ahmedabad. Go and see Slums of Bangalore .. it is so neat, clean and colorful that all middle class colonies of Gujarat will find tough time competing them ..
PS : when I am comparing these three .. my focus is on Slum(lower middle class) areas, middle class living standard and basic facilities … in terms of cosmetic development .. even Hyderabad is too good.
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March 12, 2014 at 5:50 PM
Anyway – after that doctored video that caused such excitement among the opposition supporters of AAP, that they started chanting and praising Arvind Kejriwal’s krantikari character with wonderful slogans of;
Bahut krantikari hai bhai bahut krantikari. – which we always knew, here is a vide showing the involvement of Modi in the riots with his hands red. Babu Bajrangdali…
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March 13, 2014 at 12:26 PM
Yes this superbly edited one is going viral now. Assuming this is authentic, is this admissible in a court of law? I mean is a sting operation admissible?
Also, if what these guys are saying is true, how dumb are these guys!!! Practically confessing to everything! Reminds me of Carlos Mencia’s stand-up where he calls Mexicans the dumbest coz they loot stores and stand in front K-MART grinning with a TV set in their hands interviewing to a TV crew and then appear shocked a few hours later when the cops walk in to their houses with warrants!!!
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March 13, 2014 at 12:40 PM
There are clear sentences claiming things so editing doesn’t make a difference as it did in the AK video where they compiled different parts in wrong order to make it look like an answer to certain questions. And the voiceover has to be believed if one really wants to, and last of all – this is hardly *fixing*. If Modi gave interviews he would want no wrong impressions on his audience too.
Here what he’s saying is clear. This man should be questioned. He belongs to Bajrang Dal or something. They should question him. It’s not as if the identity is unclear.
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March 13, 2014 at 1:56 PM
No no I am not questioning the veracity. I am just asking that even if the assumption that this is a completely true, non-doctored version or anything, is this admissible in a court of law as solid proof? I mean I am just asking of any ‘sting’ operation – AAP or BJP or Modi or Pappu’s ‘honest’ bro-in-law – for that matter for anybody. Maybe someone with a law background like Rooney or Qalandar can tell us?
Because out here in the US, you CANNOT even voice-record without getting prior permission from the opposite side – which renders everything futile since NO one in a right frame of mind will reveal ‘important truths’ one he or she knows that it is being recorded.
When I said it was superbly edited I meant it was edited for ‘maximum’ impact during election-time. This one is supposed to be from a 2.5 hour documentary or something out of which 17 minutes have been carefully compiled.
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March 13, 2014 at 3:13 PM
Wasn’t Nixon’s Watergate scandal also sting? Voice sting?
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March 14, 2014 at 2:15 PM
**Wasn’t Nixon’s Watergate scandal also sting? Voice sting?**
No. Nixon’s cronies were caught trying to bug the Democratic National Convenenors’ offices in Watergate complex. Nixon was sitting plumly on his ass in his offices trying to listen in to what the Democrats were thinking. He was in the process of bugging – the same thing an otherwise OUTSTANDING chief minister and scholar RamaKrishna Hegde was accused of in 1988 in Bangalore and forced to resign.
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March 14, 2014 at 4:05 PM
Ah, OK. Thanks An Jo.
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March 12, 2014 at 8:18 PM
Here is AAP’s hypocrisy, awarding ticket to the IAS officer who reversed Khemka’s orders against Vadra. Then you say that AAP is not a minion of Congress? No wonder Kejri has gone silent against the dynasty. Aam Aadmi Paid Party:
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/lok-sabha-polls-2014-aap-ticket-for-ex-officer-who-reversed-khemka-orders/articleshow/31873014.cms
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March 13, 2014 at 12:22 AM
there is foreign resident sugato bose, known ltte sympathiser anita anand
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March 13, 2014 at 12:30 AM
shows one thing and difference:
shree 420 tried to break law in gujarat and anarchy and was shown his aukad but the vandalism elsewhere in congress ruled state
what happened to rai bareilly, amethi and farukhabbad
how long will sonia b gang can survive
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March 13, 2014 at 12:35 AM
and some few
http://yespunjab.com/punjab/item/35680-sexual-harassment-charges-haryana-ias-officer-facing-trial-on-day-to-day-basis
there is one public loan defaulter to
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March 13, 2014 at 12:41 AM
this dlf thing is more unusual because now there is Lutyens scam which has emerged involving last week and desperate cover up
swamy has done it again
http://www.business-standard.com/article/companies/govt-to-look-into-aircel-maxis-deal-114030401126_1.html#.UxZjKwhfjoo.twitter–PC%27s
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March 13, 2014 at 12:47 AM
and being more blunt
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/aaps-gujarat-tour-sponsored-by-congress-subramanian-swamy/articleshow/31680118.cms
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March 13, 2014 at 12:50 AM
http://www.newindianexpress.com/nation/Complaint-Against-Kejriwal-EC-Official-to-be-Examined/2014/03/10/article2101579.ece#.UyE4z846Xbo
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March 13, 2014 at 12:54 AM
http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2014-03-12/news/48154153_1_jet-and-etihad-naresh-goyal-led-indian-open-offer
another huge minefield which can be huge
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March 13, 2014 at 1:18 AM
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/home/specials/lok-sabha-elections-2014/news/Rookies-ticket-denial-upset-Aam-Aadmi-Party-veterans/articleshow/31910270.cms?
according to leader his party disintegration and faulty ticket policies all because of who..Narendra modi
enough said
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March 13, 2014 at 7:03 AM
Speculation in Dubai is that she was murdered because she threatened to spill the beans on all the Congress hawala money pouring into Dubai Real Estate. In the last year, banks in Dubai have reported $14billion of Indian sourced funds pouring into RE. Most of these are obtained through hawala route and then laundered into the banking system, further being used to buy hundreds of expensive properties.
Dubious individuals have purchased entire hotel apartment buildings in Al-Barsha for $100M per property. The sudden jump in Dubai RE over the past 12 months is being entirely attributed to hot money from India.
Sunanda Pushkar was a resident of Dubai before she met Tharoor. People speculate that she was a link in this massive hawala transfer scheme. In a fit of jealousy, she started tweeting out comments against Tharoor, which got people in high places very concerned, and then we all know what happened to her.
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March 13, 2014 at 8:19 AM
Congress is accused of so many evil things that one more wont do any harm. A big yawn.
Welcome to one more conspiracy theory.
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March 13, 2014 at 9:11 AM
het last tweets are public(sptvrock on twitter)
http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/sunanda-tharoor-was-given-russian-poison-alleges-subramanian-swamy/1/345244.html
“I will have to file either a PIL or when there is a government that is more responsive to the public, like Narendra Modi’s government, at that time I will take it up and see that it (the case) is brought to a conclusion,” Swamy told Headlines Today.
“Why is Shashi Tharoor feeling so nervous? He should be one who should be standing up and say I want a complete inquiry to be done. Why did he get rushed through the cremation of his wife within a day? This is ridiculous. There are many things which are wrong with it,” Swamy said.
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March 13, 2014 at 9:15 AM
nykavi:
http://archive.indianexpress.com/news/narendra-modi-labels-shashi-tharoors-wife-a-rs-50-crore-girlfriend/1024013/
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March 13, 2014 at 10:04 AM
One just needs to take a flight to Dubai to see the kinds of stuff that goes on. There are large Indian jewellery store chains springing up from nowhere. All of a sudden you have an outfit that announces opening of multiple stores, ropes in major bwood stars for ads (Amitabh et al) and makes a big splash. Meanwhile, local existing stores that have been there for generations wonder where this new guy got the money from. Then we hear that some big Indian minister (eg Chidambaram, Amma, etc) have invested. And then you have a ban for gold imports into India, but allowance for NRI’s to carry 1kg of gold back. So then willing passengers are given free air tickets to become official gold mules. And suddenly the sales of gold in all these new chains shoot up, thus directly benefiting the bigwigs that invested.
The Indian brain is expert at dhandli, and this type of dhandli starts at the top of the pyramid.
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March 13, 2014 at 10:30 AM
The simple truth is that if BJP and Modi ki leher were authentic there would have been no need to make alliances with people they have chosen to, and recruit criminals to their party.
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March 14, 2014 at 4:00 PM
simple truth is barring idiots everyone know from 89 to till date india has coalition government…highest tally was 232 that to after rajiv death
keep on chanti modi
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March 13, 2014 at 2:01 PM
This pics of Pushkar are in really, really, bad taste. Whoever has taken these pictures (if these are crime-site pics leaked then I take back my words) should really be thrashed and worst of all, these pictures of a dead body are now being paraded on twitter??
One really needs to be scared of this WWW and ‘un’social networking man..
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March 14, 2014 at 4:01 PM
its from a leading law magzine…
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March 13, 2014 at 10:26 AM
@NyKavi
You believe economictimes?
Here’s a news item by them;
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/auto-driver-who-carried-arvind-kejriwal-from-airport-fined/articleshow/31905584.cms
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March 13, 2014 at 10:28 AM
And here’s a picture of him travelling with another member – just two.
This picture was posted by enthusiastic fans who were posting picures at every step.
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March 12, 2014 at 10:01 PM
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Cops-suspect-Tejpal-facilitating-jail-inmates-escape/articleshow/31909776.cms
Read the comments.
This is how BJP will start harassing anyone who opposes them if they come to power.
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March 12, 2014 at 10:08 PM
Yes, Tarun Tejpal is a shining example of an oppressed personality who has been harassed by the BJP!!
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March 12, 2014 at 10:13 PM
Even a criminal has certain rights. Everyone knows why tejpal is being persecuted in this manner while others committing more heinous crimes are roaming freely.
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March 12, 2014 at 10:10 PM
Though I dont have an iota of sympathy for tejpal, but the way he is being harassed by planting a cellphone in his cell is too filmy. Tomorrow they may plant some drugs or even a body to implicate him. The courts should take note of this and warn the Parrikar government.
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March 12, 2014 at 10:15 PM
Indira gandhi did the same thing during emergency and now others are following her though they oppose her party tooth and nail. Picking up bad things.
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March 12, 2014 at 10:17 PM
We dont want police state in the name of progress and development.
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March 13, 2014 at 1:25 AM
not at all indira was the biggest fan of hitler…its the ideological follower of karl max and so called secular who lies
http://www.niticentral.com/2014/03/12/arun-jaitley-rips-into-rahuls-hitler-jibe-says-indira-was-inspired-by-hitler-199372.html
Hitler became the Chancellor of Germany in January, 1933. Within a month, he invoked the emergency powers for ‘the protection of the people and the State’. He restricted personal liberty, free speech, fundamental rights and imposed various restrictions on the right to privacy. The ostensible reason for proclamation of emergency was a Communist conspiracy to burn down Governmental buildings. The pretext was that a day before the proclamation of emergency there was a fire at the Reich Stag. Much later, the Nuremberg trials established that the fire had been engineered to provide a false pretext.
Indira ji also proclaimed the emergency in India on June 26, 1975. She claimed that JP was leading an agitation where Armed Forces were being asked to defy illegal orders. She, therefore, suspended all fundamental rights including the right to life and liberty. She imposed censorship on the Press, compromised judicial independence. Her Attorney General pleaded before the Supreme Court that in the absence of the right to life and liberty, a detenu could be killed in prison and he had no recourse. A pliable Supreme Court accepted this argument.
Hitler did not command a two-third majority in the German Parliament. He, therefore, detained 91 Opposition MPs in order to reduce the voting strength of the House and amended the Constitution giving to him absolute power. Indira ji detained a large number of Opposition MPs and brought about draconian 42nd Amendment to the Constitution which had to be substantially repealed after the emergency. She went a step further and even prohibited the publication of Parliamentary proceedings. The law which provided immunity to the media from publishing Parliamentary proceedings was repealed. Curiously, this law had been proposed by Rahul Gandhi’s grandfather, the Late Shri Feroze Gandhi.
despite all this, there was a fundamental difference between Indira Mrs Gandhi’s emergency and Hitler’s regime. “Hitler did not promote a dynasty because he did not have any one to promote.”
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March 12, 2014 at 10:24 PM
Panaji, Goa: Goa Police today told Bombay High Court that kin of Tehelka founder editor Tarun Tejpal, accused of raping a junior woman colleague, were showing CCTV footage related to the case to “everybody” in Delhi.
“The CCTV footage is made available to Tejpal. The same footage is displayed to everybody in Delhi by the family members,” advocate Saresh Lotlikar, representing the state Crime Branch, told the Goa bench of Bombay High Court here.
Lotlikar was arguing against the bail petition filed by Tejpal, who is currently lodged in Sada sub jail.
The court has kept the matter for order on March 14.
However, advocate Amit Desai, representing Tejpal, said the CCTV footage procured outside the lift clearly indicates that there cannot be a case against the accused.
He rubbished the arguments that the victim was “way-laid, abused and taken advantage” by his client.
Lotlikar said that if Tejpal is given bail, he will influence the witnesses and halt the process of trial.
“Applicant (Tejpal) cannot be expected to be disciplined, if he is released on bail,” the lawyer said, in an animated one-hour arguments between defence and prosecution lawyers over the submissions.
The prosecution said details of the calls made from the cellphone which was allegedly found in possession of Tejpal in the jail were also being ascertained. The calls were found to be made to persons in Gurgaon and Delhi.
“The victim is already feeling traumatised. She has disclosed that messages are being circulated vilifying her character,” Lotlikar said strongly opposing the bail plea.
The crime was a premeditated one because “it was repeated twice over,” he said.
There may not be conclusive evidence against Tejpal, but the evidence is strong, he added.
The prosecution sought to defeat the arguments that case against Tejpal was a political vendetta as the “entire charge sheet is based on the evidence collected through fair investigations.”
“The CCTV footage clearly indicates that the girl was running behind Tejpal after getting down from the lift as against the claims made that Tejpal ran after her,” Desai said, adding that the “the girl was happy and held back no tears.”
The footage also shows that the girl went into the lift with consent, Tejpal’s lawyer argued.
Tejpal was present in the court flanked by his family members when the case was being argued.
Desai said the complaint against Tejpal was an afterthought, which can be revealed through two emails written by the victim which has certain details added in the second mail.
Pleading for bail, the lawyer said the CCTV footage contradicts the claims of investigating agency that Tejpal raped the girl.
http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/tarun-tejpal-s-family-showing-cctv-footage-to-everybody-prosecution-494923?pfrom=home-topstories
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March 12, 2014 at 10:34 PM
The evidence is not conclusive but strong.
Laughable.
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March 13, 2014 at 12:13 AM
http://www.niticentral.com/2014/02/22/tarun-tejpal-and-the-alchemy-of-denial-192617.html
fter his awkwardly-worded bail plea (“the victim was an educated modern woman”) failed and the legal pincer tightens inexorably, Tarun Tejpal, founder-editor of Tehelka, is seeking to project himself as a victim of a “Right Wing political conspiracy” as Goa, where he is being tried for rape, sexual harassment and outraging the modesty of a woman, is ruled by the BJP. The ruse cuts little ice because the successive incidents happened at his own THiNK festival and the victim was his junior colleague, and not a member of the general public who could be alleged to have been ‘planted’ by a political entity. It also overlooks the fact that besides the victim, five senior colleagues later quit the magazine in protest, while managing editor Shoma Choudhary was forced to step down.
From the time his young victim reported the incidents to her friends, colleagues, and boss Shoma Chaudhury, and Tejpal incriminated himself with SMSes and emails which became public and set the law on him, his friends and admirers have launched a sustained media campaign on his behalf. The victim and her mother have mainly been silent. Activists have spoken up in their defence when asked to comment on specific allegations, but the Tejpal camp is on the offensive.
The veteran journalist alleges political bias, “The Goa police and BJP Chief Minister Manohar Parrikar, both exhibited a rare zeal not noticed before. BJP spokesmen, long chafing over Tehelka’s exposure of the defence purchase scam (Operation West End), Gujarat 2002 and other matters, gleefully grabbed the opportunity for revenge.” Acknowledging that feminists and criminologists are opposed to softening the amended rape law, he points out that as the law proceeds, the victim will face cross-examination regarding the alleged ‘two versions’, and points out that this law also provides for conciliation at the request of the woman, which is “probably what Shoma had intended in order to avoid further trauma”. He concludes with the advice that, “the media and political leaders would do well to spend time in honest introspection”, but does not explain what they need to introspect about.
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March 13, 2014 at 12:17 AM
http://indianexpress.com/article/india/india-others/amartya-sen-threatens-to-quit-nalanda-univ-over-funds-queries/
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March 13, 2014 at 12:32 AM
http://indiankanoon.org/doc/1597885/
B. FINANCIAL SCAMS BEING INVESTIGATED BY C.B.I.
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1. Conspiracy of purchase of RIL shares of Rs.944 crores on private placement to UTI etc at inflated prices; and also acceptance of RIL duplicate shares already Mr.Y.P.Singh, an officer of the CBI produced a 40 page report and sought permission from the Finance Ministry to proceed further in the matter. He was transferred This Hon’ble Court commenced looking into the matter only on 24.8.2001, where after the CBI was directed to product the file re: the self contained note dated 24.9.1996 to which reference was made in the CBI’s affidavit dated 16.5.2000 (This affidavit
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sold to others out of the CBI and the investigation was out on hold. adverted to the fact that the CBI had closed the file only on the direction of the Finance Ministry. The file was produced on 20.9.2001 in a sealed cover their Lordship, after perusal, observed that it did not appear to contain any direction for closure of the case. Hence it is submitted that this Hon’ble Court must monitor further investigation/follow up of Mr.Y.P.Singh’s report. C. OTHERS.
1.Between April 1990 and October 1995, RIL was alleged to have altered 70.30 lakh share transfer deeds, rendering them defective and incapable of being acted upon for effecting transfer In 1996, 29 criminal cases were filed by the Registrar of Companies Maharashtra. Summons were issued on 13.7.1996 by the Addl. Chief Metropolitan Magistrate Mumbai against Dhirubhai Ambani, his two sons and six others. No progress has been made thereafter. This Hon’ble Court has not yet looked into the matter and the same appears to have not progressed further. __________________________________________________________________
5. The submission of the petitioner was that the alleged commission of irregularities in the aforesaid case was almost admitted even by the respondents in their counter affidavits on the basis of which they had investigated the matter and initiated proceedings. However, the petitioner was at pains to point out that the investigation and/or prosecution in all these cases were going at snail’s pace and in fact it was only after the progress was monitored by this court and orders were passed from time to time in this behalf, that the respondents speeded up the investigation and filing of charge-sheet in the court of law. Therefore, his submission was that the court should continue to monitor the progress of the cases.
6. On behalf of the CBI, Mr. K.N. Bhatt, learned senior counsel had made the submissions. The CBI investigation relates to the issue of purchase of shares of RIL by the Unit Trust of India, and therefore, would be dealt with at appropriate stage when the said issue is being discussed.
7. Mr. Vikas Mehta, Advocate appeared for the Enforcement Directorate and referring to the various affidavits including the last affidavit filed on 9th August, 2001 stressed about the progress being made in the investigations relating to various cases on the basis of which he submitted that since the Enforcement Directorate was itself looking into the matter, no directions need be given nor any monitoring was required by the court.
8. Mr. Ashok H. Desai, learned senior counsel appeared for the RIL. With vehemence he opposed the present writ petition contending that it was a politically motivated petition filed by the petitioner who had leveled reckless and malicious allegations. These allegations were not only aimed at the officials of RIL and officers of some of the Government Undertakings, infact the petitioner had not even spared the PMO, Union Home Minister, former Chief Minister, Delhi and other such highly placed persons who were not even made parties in their personal capacity in the writ petition. Referring to such allegations against these high dignitaries in the writ petition. Mr. Desai submitted that sheer motive of the petitioner was to malign these persons and it was enough to expose the motives behind such a petition which was in fact not a petition in public interest. He also argued that as per the petitioner’s own showing in all five cases pointed out by the petitioner either the charge-sheet had been filed I the court or conscious decision taken not to take particular action or show cause notices had been issued. In such circumstances, according to the learned senior counsel, it was not appropriate for this court to give any directions at this stage as the court was not to issue such directions when the matter was pending investigation by the police or when the matter was pending before the appropriate court after the charge-sheet had been filed. To sum up, his submission was as under:
a) There should not be any direction for prosecution of the case as that would affect fair trial and right of the accused inasmuch as if such direction is issued by a superior court, the trial court of competent jurisdiction would be influenced by such direction with lurking impression at the back of mind that the superior court has found some substance in the charge against the accused and that would not only affect the rights of the accused but fair trial of the case as well.
b) When the matter was pending investigation by the police, the court would be slow in giving directions as the investigation was the demand of police authorities.
c) Likewise, once the charge-sheet was filed in the court of law or appropriate authority had taken the decision one way or the other in a matter, or when show cause notice was issued for eliciting further information and was pending consideration at the level of appropriate authority, the court should not interfere in a Public Interest Litigation and issue any directions in the matter which was seized by the aforesaid authorities.
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March 14, 2014 at 11:25 AM
Rockstar bhagwaan tumhara bhala kare….filmy website hai , don’t vent all your political bhadhaas ….thoda bahut chit chat karo and tension free raho.
I am saying this again there is no point in blaming any govt because all are more or less same as they say in hindi ek hi thali ke chatte batte… we have seen this in BJP too which is full of power brokers and corrupt leaders. Now with the tide in their favor, bigger a.holes like Paswans are joining them and they have no hesitation in vetting/accepting them. That party apart from a few like Advani and Sushma Swaraj are bunch of opportunists too and full of hooligans.
India mein bureaucracy is a problem and if bureaucrats were straight, politicians would be spending sleepless nights. Though our legal system is first rate, there is no respect for law at all. That is the basic we need to start from and that can only be achieved by police and bureaucrats. That way Aamir and SMJ are providing a good platform to highlight these issues.
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March 14, 2014 at 4:28 PM
bhagwan tumhara bhi bhala kare and first lesson concentrates on quotes instead of personal stuff …furstrated soul resort to that to crave attention and be prolific on either filmi or even any other stuff if one has capability
why paswan is not secular today (he was minister in nda earlier for lame knowledge)and calling asshole resort to deep furstration…india main problem bureaucracy nahin nehruvian bureaucracy hai…and calling other asshole and blindly worshipping another thing is intellectual bankruptcy
concentrate on what you are good in posting ..calling other’s name and action is one thing but shutting him up with facts is another if one is facing deep trauma
and ya be yourself for change…i am what i am
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March 14, 2014 at 4:54 PM
http://www.mediaticks.com/bollywood/bollywoodreviews.php?bollywood-type=Star-Talk&bollywood=My-wives-may-be-Hindu-but-my-kids-will-always-follow-only-Islam:-Aamir-Khan&id=36263
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March 14, 2014 at 4:55 PM
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/hindi/bollywood/news-interviews/I-dont-teach-my-children-what-is-Hindu-and-Muslim-SRK/articleshow/13739354.cms
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March 13, 2014 at 1:08 AM
ndtv lol…spokesperson of tejpal
http://www.mediacrooks.com/2014/03/disgrace.html#.UyE8l846Xbo
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March 13, 2014 at 1:09 AM
spokesperson of tejpal ndtv
http://www.mediacrooks.com/2014/03/disgrace.html#.UyE8l846Xbo
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March 13, 2014 at 1:38 AM
http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report-tarun-tejpal-called-woman-associate-regularly-from-prison-1968805
Former Tehelka editor-in-chief Tarun Tejpal, who is in judicial custody here, regularly telephoned from prison a Delhi-based woman business associate, an inquiry report said Wednesday.
The report filed before the Margao district and sessions court Wednesday by prison authorities also said a SIM card seized from Tejpal’s prison cell at the Sada sub-jail, 35 km from here, was registered in the name of a woman from a Panaji suburb.
It said Tejpal regularly called Sheela Lunkad, who is Tejpal’s partner in a hospitality venture.
Sheela Lunkad, Rajeev Lunkad, Tejpal and his wife Geetan Batra Tejpal are partners in a private limited company.
The report added that Tejpal also called a woman called Manjiri, based in Delhi’s Saket area, at regular intervals, besides several other phone numbers in the national capital.
“We are in the process of writing to the mobile service providers for proper contact details of the owners of these numbers. They will be included in the probe as to how the mobile phone was sneaked into prison,” said an official associated with the inquiry.
The probe also revealed that the SIM card – bearing phone number 7350533170 – which was recovered from Tejpal’s shirt collar was registered under the name of Thereza, residing in Taleigao, a suburb of Panaji.
Tejpal has denied possession of the SIM card, but was booked under various sections of the Indian Penal Code and of the Prison Act.
A junior woman colleague has accused Tejpal of rape during a conference organised by the Tehelka founder in Goa. The woman said she was sexually assaulted twice in November.
After an investigation, the Goa crime branch charged Tejpal with sexual harassment, wrongful restrain, rape, taking advantage of his official position, and committing rape in his custody.
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March 13, 2014 at 3:34 PM
Sumit Gulati @sumitgt · 2h
Everyone else is corrupt,only I am
honest Arvind kejriwal
Translated: Ye duniya pittal di, baby doll main sone di!
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March 13, 2014 at 3:35 PM
Very very very apt and Krantikari !!!
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March 13, 2014 at 3:38 PM
Arvind Kejriwal is the Harry Potter of Indian politics. Perched on a magic broom—the election symbol of his Aam Aadmi Party (AAP)—he has catapulted himself as a boy wizard fighting against all odds in a shadowy world inhabited by demons and beasts. He has even conjured a supreme malevolent villain on the lines of Voldemort as a fountainhead of the Dark Arts reincarnated as corrupt politics. Donning the Potter mantle, Kejriwal has publicly denounced Mukesh Ambani, India’s biggest business magnate, who was so far the one Who-Must-Not-Be-Named despite persistent gossip about his growing clout in the corridors of power. Kejriwal’s assertion that the country’s two main political parties, the Indian National Congress and the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), are mere puppets of the evil lord (that would be Ambani) seeks to turn the upcoming contest in the national polls this summer into a battle between good and evil.
http://greatbong.net/2014/03/11/deconstructing-kejriwal-part-1/
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March 13, 2014 at 3:40 PM
Intellectual Robbery (Plagiarism) by Arvind Kejriwal
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March 13, 2014 at 4:35 PM
*grroann*
Again opinion links.
arre bhai as I said earlier I could flood this thread with links to extremely positive views of people.
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March 13, 2014 at 4:48 PM
arrey Didi, taniq link padhiye toh, it isn’t opinion, it has proof and facts !!!!
waqai bahut Kalakaari hai apna keju !!!
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March 13, 2014 at 5:37 PM
Facts like the ones garnered from that doctored video clip?
LOL!!
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March 14, 2014 at 9:49 AM
Everyone else is corrupt,only I am
honest Arvind kejriwal
Translated: Ye duniya pittal di, baby doll main sone di!
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March 14, 2014 at 10:44 AM
>Everyone else is corrupt,only I am
honest Arvind kejriwal
Truer words were never said.
>Translated:
Ye Modi pittal da,
doll yeh Ambani/Adani da
haan sone da hai Arvinda
Sirf krantikari hi nahi par bahut karantikari – yeh sone da Arvinda **music**
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March 14, 2014 at 10:50 AM
Bhai bahut Kalakari/krantikari/Madari/ jhootchari/ communalchari/ commiechari / bhagachari hai bhai apna Keju !!!
Ye duniya pittal di, baby doll main sone di!!!!!!!
very very very apt statement here !!!!!
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March 14, 2014 at 11:06 AM
aur Modi kya hai? woh bhi sun lo.
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March 14, 2014 at 11:15 AM
asiey kitney Sanjiv Bhatt/ Ishrat/ IB/ CBI/ SIT/ Teesta/ Connie/ NDTV/ Burqa/ Moron Ghose/ Rajdeep aaye aur Namsatey kar gaye….aap Qatar mein hain !! Lage raho !!!
The guy for whom corruption was the biggest issue, suddenly became communalism the biggest issue, then said Batala was fake, then said Anna ‘s Andolan was pro Hindu……
Commies ko ek mashwara— issey na ho payega, isska ilaaz karao, yeh na rok payega Modi kee leher…. kuch aur item boy/ girl dhoondho !!
PS1- Bahut Kalakari hai Bhai
PS2-
Everyone else is corrupt,only I am , honest Arvind kejriwal
Translated: Ye duniya pittal di, baby doll main sone di!
PS3- I am so done for the day, Jai Bharat, Jai Hind !!
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March 14, 2014 at 11:24 AM
http://www.forbes.com/sites/meghabahree/2014/03/12/doing-big-business-in-modis-gujarat/
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March 14, 2014 at 12:39 PM
>asiey kitney Sanjiv Bhatt/ Ishrat/ IB/ CBI/ SIT/ Teesta/ Connie/ NDTV/ Burqa/ Moron Ghose/ Rajdeep aaye aur Namsatey kar gaye….aap Qatar mein hain !! Lage raho !!!
Exactly. You’ve hit the nail on the bhrashtachar head.
@Munna
Big business in Gujarat – for Ambani etc of course. No one is denying that.
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March 13, 2014 at 5:10 PM
Good writeup:
http://skandhurkat.blogspot.com/2014/03/dangerous-democracy-with-arvind-kejriwal.html
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March 13, 2014 at 5:39 PM
Oh good!!
Now I have some opinion about Kejriwal to read!
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March 13, 2014 at 5:42 PM
http://www.firstpost.com/blogs/why-is-the-media-blatantly-targeting-aap-and-kejriwal-1432537.html
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March 13, 2014 at 5:47 PM
Another one.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/hindi/india/2014/03/140312_rahul_modi_interviews_tb.shtml
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March 14, 2014 at 1:39 AM
these are facts noty blabbering …
there was a guy caught pimping interview in media, there was a guy caught dong nuisance and telling lies and there was a guy who daily takes u turn just to be in limelight because anyway without media and nautanki he has no base
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March 14, 2014 at 10:36 AM
>there was a guy caught pimping interview in media,
At least he gives interviews in media and faces a torrent of cross examination with questions raining on him.
Where is Modi?
If he’d give interviews the amount of pimping ***and*** money changing hands would be astounding.
But never mind a lot of pimping going on by them otherwise.
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March 14, 2014 at 3:57 PM
were you born today..first learn to make facts
ex media dallah’s:
shazia: star news journalist
ashutosh: ex cnn ibn journalist
yogendra yadav: omnipresent journalist
sisodia: ex zee journalist.etc etc.core of aap
its not my fault shree 420 was caught pimping interview and after using media and saying other way
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March 13, 2014 at 5:51 PM
And last bit – for now!
The media you want to believe. This is the seconf example today – the first one being that of economic times.
Please note – *these* are called facts.
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March 13, 2014 at 6:51 PM
Putins power play– liked the well coordinated offensive
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/putins-power-play-in-ukraine/2014/03/02/3ec4ca4e-a248-11e3-a5fa-55f0c77bf39c_story.html
Ps: Oldgold seems to be in top form above,,,
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March 14, 2014 at 1:34 AM
putin is taller in stature than modi and in reality the most commanding leader hopefully modi joins the stake worldwide soon as he himself is no nonsense person administratively
bachchan join the bandwagon: party to banti hai
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/home/specials/lok-sabha-elections-2014/news/Bachchan-ads-boosting-Modis-popularity/articleshow/31974144.cms?
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March 14, 2014 at 1:37 AM
i mean right now but modi as pm will rise dramatically in world stake as he still not taken over
personality and administrative wide despite all his criticism vladmir putin is tallest leader ahead of obama
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March 14, 2014 at 1:59 PM
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/mad-mad-world/Saudi-Arabia-bans-50-names-including-Rama-for-conflicting-with-kingdoms-culture/articleshow/32018470.cms
Among the banned names, Rama, Amir, Malika, Maya are some for different reasons. Haha.
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March 17, 2014 at 1:17 AM
I am not surprised, Muslims are already following this all over the world. My 2 colleagues in my team are muslims and they are close friends. But, i was always surprised when there is a meeting with Our senior Architect (whose name is Rama), they call him Roma or reema but will never call him Rama.
I was perplexed Why were they doing it deliberately as everyone else knows his name clearly. Though, our senior architect never cared for it, and always focused on content.
I know most of people will not believe me and will probably call me right wing fundamentalist but i can even record audio sometime to prove it if anyone demands.
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March 14, 2014 at 4:12 PM
banning is usual…non muslims are not allowed to enter in mecca and madina
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March 16, 2014 at 1:24 PM
Must Watch Interview of Anupam Kher…
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March 16, 2014 at 3:27 PM
has done his bit for rehalibitation of kashmiri pandits and was very good in woody allen’s movie in his one on one tnteraction with bradley cooper and robert di niro
bjp is fielding his wife though
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March 17, 2014 at 5:35 PM
@munna
LOL
Its the second time you’ve put up a link for support of your view without reading it. Headlines sometimes mislead. Your Forbes link about Big Business in Gujarat was actually a damning one for Modi. The Big here is used sarcastically. Some excerpts from it to whet your appetite to read it;
” FORBES ASIA has copies of the agreements that show he got the 30-year, renewable leases for as little as one U.S. cent a square meter (the rate maxed out at 45 cents a square meter). He in turn has sublet this land to other companies, including state-owned Indian Oil Co., for as much as $11 a square meter. Between 2005 and 2007 at least 1,200 hectares of grazing land was taken away from villagers.”
This is something AK has been shouting for some time now to the deaf media who are busy building Modi up. Some more;
“Modi said farmers were his friends and he would stand by them. He also said he would “not allow anyone to loot the exchequer.”
But spend time around the villages of Kutch and a vastly different picture appears. ”
I leave the rest for you to read – and all other Modi/BJP bhakts. 😉
Actually I have a Guardian UK link which tells all about this GUjarat business but didn’t give the link because it would be mocked at for coming from a leftist. So thanks a tom for this link. I’ve spread it around.
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March 17, 2014 at 5:42 PM
Another bit of news that had made the rounds several weeks ago was posted on Modi’s page/blog about Wiki stating that Modi was incorruptible. This was spread around and made much of. Today the founder (?) Julian A tweeted about its fakeness. Meantime the post on Modi’s page/blog has been removed but not before it was downloaded. Here’s the original post and the tweets denying it.
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March 18, 2014 at 12:39 AM
I give information without bias 🙂
And I read everything which interest me.
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March 17, 2014 at 6:12 PM
#India: No WikiLeaks document say #Modi is ‘incorruptable’, rather he is popular because ‘viewed’ as ‘incorruptable’
This is original tweet. ISn’t Modi popular? He is most popular politician india ever had. And wikileaks linked his popularity to that he is viewed as incorruptible.
That means he is viewed as incorruptible leader that’s why he is popular.
He can’t not be viewed as incorruptible just for namesake. After all, he is being monitored closely more than anyone else for last 10 years. People and media can’t be totally blind. He has passed test of time and he is considered as incorruptible and that’s what makes him popular.
Anti-India People can’t just digest the fact that Modi is scheduled to be our PM in just 2 months time.
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March 17, 2014 at 6:56 PM
Please read this to find out whether he is corruptible or not.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/meghabahree/2014/03/12/doing-big-business-in-modis-gujarat/
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March 18, 2014 at 12:20 AM
hide the fact that the land given to Adani in Kutch was not “sold” to them – it was given to them under BOOT scheme- Build Own Operate Transfer. And its not like Adani got the land and re-rented it without adding any value – they developed the land and then rented it out. Any idea what was total agricultural output of Mundhra or Kutch (A declared Desert zone) prior to 2002? When we say agricultural output has depleted for some exclusive people? Can you compare it with the total net benefit post the Adani or other Infra activities?
Indeed true that if someone is being at disadvantage due to society’s overall benefit than proper steps must be taken to compensate their losses.
I’m neither someone’s diehard supporter nor anyone’s cruel critic when it comes to selecting political leader; but if and when it comes to chose one among today’s politicians I’d most obviously vouch for Mr. Narendra Modi; Not out of some blind love but only because of 1 reason = His net output to his people is multifold higher than any other leader.
http://storify.com/KartikeyaTanna/the-inaccuracies-and-half-truths-in-forbes-report
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March 18, 2014 at 12:25 AM
Half baked report with no facts,
On HC “ordering” GoG and Adani
GoG ensured that Adani pay 30% premium which was given to the village panchayat.
Next, what the Forbes report conveniently overlooks. SC too dismissed the petition challenging allocation of land to Adani.
http://storify.com/KartikeyaTanna/the-inaccuracies-and-half-truths-in-forbes-report
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March 18, 2014 at 9:13 AM
There is no point arguing with people with no sense of how business/industry works. Adani converted a banjar zameen into a highly industrialized zone, in the process generating thousands of new jobs, new revenue for the Govt, and new infrastructure for various industries to thrive upon. But Kejri will ignore all the land development activities, and insist that a Rs1 land got sold for Rs 11. Just the same way, he ignored all economics and claimed that gas costing $2 in 2002 should cost the same in 2014, even though there has been 200% inflation in every commodity, service, salary, etc in those 12 yrs. Kejriwal ne IIT-Kanpur ka naam badnaam kar diya, itney uloo nahi hotey IITians.
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March 18, 2014 at 10:37 AM
other masterstroke was opening of kandla port..shree 420 will create more nuisance for 2 months to get attention as b team
http://www.indiafacts.co.in/kerji-files-anarchist-anti-national/#sthash.uHxcSmu9.A3ZKde2g.dpbs
aamna sharif in afghanistan times
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March 18, 2014 at 10:43 AM
major refrence: Aamna Shahwani, Afghanistan Times, Kabul, March 4, 2014.
google it..
http://covertwires.com/2014/03/04/pakistans-mysterious-love-for-indian-anti-corruption-crusaders/
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March 18, 2014 at 10:48 AM
overnight in media varanasi also became a safe seat with sizeable minority population…a seat where bjp lost in 2004, won narrowly in 2009…
people are just watching this tamasha but even that one save in long run
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March 18, 2014 at 11:28 AM
and all for this pimpimg up of interview happened now this is media crooks one month back…do watch poorna prasoon vajpayee angle before the expose which took place before 1 month of incident
http://www.mediacrooks.com/2014/01/democracy-fake-aam-aadmis.html#.UyhjbM6mlyY
hint was allready(today group nexus and even huge funding even upto planes as indirectly said by swamy) for election
the same shree 420 once used to claim 1400 cr distributed to media as one face
sheila dixit quietly became governor of kerla and there goes all corruption case in delhi related to her..
itna sannata kyon hai bhai on that front
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March 18, 2014 at 12:32 AM
Also, history o this jounalist is all there tosee, Defending sonia gandhi on every front and supporting food security bill at the cost of high account deficit and calling Modi liar in post headlines without any reason.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/meghabahree/2013/06/11/did-narendra-modi-lie/
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March 18, 2014 at 12:34 AM
@satyam
please allow my comment under moderation, it has couple of links in it.
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March 18, 2014 at 12:43 AM
Bullish on BJP win, Goldman Sachs upgrades India
http://news.rediff.com/commentary/2014/mar/18/liveupdates.htm
Anti-India people are bound to get jealousy 🙂
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March 18, 2014 at 12:44 AM
http://profit.ndtv.com/news/market/article-goldman-sachs-upgrades-india-says-elections-a-catalyst-for-markets-383129?pfrom=home-lateststories
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March 18, 2014 at 12:47 AM
Rupee is strengthening in last few weeks, dollar exchange rate about to go below 60 rs 🙂
Market is peaking to 22k+
Good times ahead, It is just the news of expected win all over. Lets Modi come and see how anti -India people either change their color like chameleon or plan terrorist attack to destabilize.
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March 18, 2014 at 9:08 AM
The market works on confidence, and the closer we get to May 16, the more speculation there will be for a positive outcome.
As I mentioned previously, if by any chance Modi does not become PM, we will see a quick U turn for the Rupee. 1USD=Rs80 will not be out of the question then.
Even the Congressi billionaires by now should be praying that Modi becomes PM, after all, their own billions will lose tremendous value if he does not.
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March 20, 2014 at 3:28 AM
at the same time if he becomes the PM – 1USD will become 40 rs
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March 18, 2014 at 2:08 AM
Crimea signifies growing assertiveness of Russia. And also some belligerent remarks by some russian like reducing some country to radiation dust.
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March 19, 2014 at 1:11 PM
wHEN Kejribhai was still learning the process of ‘blocking’ as an angry young man
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March 19, 2014 at 4:18 PM
How relentlessly he has been fighting. But he’s being crushed by the media and the “incorruptible” corrupt giants.
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March 19, 2014 at 7:58 PM
Shouting slogans 12 years back and still doing same. That is only his experience.
When it came to do actual work, he ran away. Moreover, now he started hiding corrupt people in his own party.
Ashok Khemka was the IAS officer in Haryana who got into trouble for tackling land acquisitions by Robert Vadra, Sonia Gandhi’s son-in-law.
Khemka was transferred, and his orders reversed by his successor, Yudhbir Singh Khyalia. Now the same Yudhbir Singh Khyalia, having taken early retirement, is the Aam Aadmi Party candidate for the Hisar Lok Sabha seat.
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March 19, 2014 at 9:12 PM
He is no doubt smart, and the biggest mistake made by the Congress in its history was to support him in Delhi. The series of blunders made by Congress in a space of 6 months is amazing, leaving it with no base whatsoever in vast chunks of the country. They lost Andhra, Delhi along with almost all of North India, and only have some small states like Kerala, Mizoram etc left in their kitty. The party is finished for all practical purposes. And out of those ashes will emerge Kejriwal as the new psuedo-secular. Though it remains to be seen how long the veil of honesty lasts for his outfit.
All he has managed to do is to eat Congress’ lunch, very quickly pulling the rug from under them and usurping the space occupied by them for the last 60 yrs. He is not making any dent to the BJP, in fact he is polarizing votes so much that the BJP base only becomes stronger.
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March 19, 2014 at 10:13 PM
So many times congress is written off but somehow it is making a comeback with ragtag coalition partners in tow.
Kejriwal is just a beginner but he had shown how to make voters eat out of his hands and all the parties are trying to learn something from him. That is connecting with real and micro issues than general issues like development and investment or foreign policy which enamours only the rich. Even communal politics have taken a backseat due to Kejri’s storm.
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March 19, 2014 at 11:53 PM
If the results turn out as per the opinion polls, it will take the Congress all the way back to 1998, when Sonia was enticed out of self-exile to lead the party. Rahul was to have already taken charge of the party by now, and lead it to victory. However, this impending defeat will force out more people who stuck in there just for a taste of power. Only the true Gandhi sycophants will hang on for a bit more, in the hope that Rahul gains some magic touch. Unfortunately, that hope will disappear soon, and the base of this party will shrink further.
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March 20, 2014 at 12:19 AM
The regional players are gaining and the national parties are depending on regional parties. The more the regional parties gain, the more the opportunity for them to have their own prime ministerial candidate who maybe supported by either of the national parties. Even Mulayam is nursing this ambition and compared to Jayalalitha and Mayawati, his chances are bright. He is playing both bjp and congress cards.
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March 20, 2014 at 12:45 AM
While 2 cats fight, the monkey will run away with the booty.
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March 20, 2014 at 1:02 AM
The biggest monkey here seems to be Kejriwal!
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March 21, 2014 at 3:31 PM
Finally Reliance Industries opens their mouth against Kejri’s rants:
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March 21, 2014 at 3:31 PM
and
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March 21, 2014 at 3:56 PM
LOL!!
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March 21, 2014 at 3:55 PM
LOL!!!
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March 23, 2014 at 10:20 PM
A zealous Samajwadi Yuvjan Sabha leader Arun Gupta first said it was done in the spirit of Holi — a week after the festival was over. But on Sunday, Gupta told TOI, “The BJP is poaching on other parties because it doesn’t have credible candidates to contest elections.” He then added, “SP has no shortage of leaders, and the party is going to polls in the name of development. BJP is playing politics of religion.”
BJP’s UP spokesman DM Mishra dismissed this as stunt. “All parties fear BJP’s prime ministerial candidate as his popularity is rising. People will give a fitting reply to the SP in the coming election,” Mishra said.
The poster has not only caused heartburn among political parties but also among authorities. The district administration said posters aggravating differences amounted to flouting model code of conduct.
“Action would be taken in this regard,” said an official. A senior Congress leader said, “Political workers should refrain from making fun of political parties and their leaders.”
On Holi, huge posters had come up showing AAP leader Arvind Kejriwal on a tricycle pulled by a dog. Rahul Gandhi and Modi were shown with their legs in chain, and BSP’s symbol, the elephant, was depicted as meandering aimlessly.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/home/specials/lok-sabha-elections-2014/news/Samajwadi-Party-pokes-NaMo-with-Darr-darr-Modi-slogan/articleshow/32571811.cms?
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March 25, 2014 at 3:15 AM
idiots will remain one only
http://www.niticentral.com/2014/03/25/congress-inducts-and-removes-mangalore-pub-attack-accused-203351.html
vaghela ex rss wala is congress opposition leader in gujrat
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March 23, 2014 at 10:37 PM
Congress seems to be relieved and ready to enjoy sitting in opposition. They were not too perturbed when they lost Delhi.
Kejriwal and AAP have become less visible nowadays. Due to their conflict with media?
BJP has become too aggressive, too ruthless and blind.
Just imagine that stupid har har modi slogan insulting hindu gods.
See the way they are treating veterans and old faithfuls.
Trying to get people like Pramod Muthalik and retracting only when Parriker said no.
BJP has lost the ethical battle by inducting Yeddiurappa and indulging in All is fair in electoral battle.
Rajnath singh and Modi along with Arun Jaitley have become the trio leading BJP into a party with no difference.
And Sharad Pawar is not helping by asking his people to vote twice and erase the ink before voting.
Aamir Khan openly came out about UPA government blindly helping scamsters pouring taxpayers money into its pet schemes like NREGA without checking whether it is reaching the right people or not. There was reference to our PM being silent.
SMJ2 has less emotions and more relaxing style of presentation.
Neta corrupt, babus corrupt. Hum kya doodh ke dhule hue?
To vote or not.
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March 24, 2014 at 11:44 AM
GREAT NEWS!!!!
Election Commission says ‘NO’ to the gas price hike from 1st April as a response to Arvind Kejriwal’s letter to them asking for the same as it violated the code of conduct of elections.
This in spite of the Reliance spokesperson asking them to ignore AAP’s request.
So now the ball will be in the court of the party that comes to power.
If congress comes to power they will have to revisit this issue and carry it – which will make no difference to present situation.
If BJP comes to power it will have to check on it. To favour Ambani or not, will be the issue. Hahaha Can you imagine the sleepless nights?
If AAP comes to power then Modi knows what will happen.
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March 24, 2014 at 11:45 AM
Correction in the last line.
Ambani, not Modi. They are so changeable in my head.
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March 24, 2014 at 11:49 AM
A discussion of AAP in a top Swiss newspaper.
The heading asks ‘Will they be a deciding factor in any change?’
There is a picture of some leaders including Arvind Kejriwal and workers.
Under the picture the text says, “They want to work for the people and not for their pockets.”
http://www.nzz.ch/aktuell/feuilleton/uebersicht/ein-neues-zuenglein-an-der-waage-1.18268749
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March 24, 2014 at 12:10 PM
Amitabh, besides being so many thing is also a clairvoyant.
He predicted this so many years ago-
‘AAP’ ka to lagta hai bas yahi sapna
Ram naam japna
Paraya maal apna!
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March 24, 2014 at 12:46 PM
Logon ko mirchi lagi to main kya karoon.
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March 25, 2014 at 3:27 AM
no popular measure or interim government can take big decision
http://zeenews.india.com/news/nation/us-court-asks-sonia-gandhi-to-show-passport_919318.html#.Uyu9V-atvCs.twitter
ec also rapped shri 420 for his gujrat visit and called it violation of poll of conduct…
lame horses don’t win derby
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March 25, 2014 at 3:32 AM
desperation of msm really
social media is indeed emerging watch dog
http://twitter.whotalking.com/topic/Ahmed+Patel
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March 25, 2014 at 3:39 AM
http://m.niticentral.com/2014/03/20/case-of-perjury-and-fraud-against-arvind-kejriwal-201561.html
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March 25, 2014 at 3:44 AM
http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/india-today-newsmaker-2012-robert-vadra-dlf-arvind-kejriwal/1/239923.html
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March 25, 2014 at 3:48 AM
http://whotalking.com/twitter/ahmad+patel
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March 25, 2014 at 3:10 AM
just amazed at this newly opened vadora bus station last month…really lesson to be learnt at managing infrastructure courtesy air india and delhi metro express
http://in.finance.yahoo.com/photos/photos-this-is-perhaps-the-most-beautiful-bus-station-in-india-slideshow/?format=embed
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March 25, 2014 at 3:10 AM
http://in.finance.yahoo.com/photos/photos-this-is-perhaps-the-most-beautiful-bus-station-in-india-slideshow/central-bus-station-at-vadodara-photo-1395722173499.html?format=embed
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March 26, 2014 at 8:50 AM
The Hinglish lib-turds just can’t believe it!! Here’s Rajdick Sardesai of the eternally-gelled-hair-syndrome-but-hardly- anything-beneath-it literally frothing at the mouth when interviewing the fine M J Akbar, the latest entrant to the BJP. Man, the hate that these guys have is unbelievable. All the right-wing nuts and these lib-turds should be locked up in a room as an experiment..
http://ibnlive.in.com/videos/459847/modis-patna-speech-even-after-blasts-changed-my-opinion-mj-akbar.html
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March 27, 2014 at 8:58 AM
Rajdeep keeps egging about the switch from Nehruvian worldview to the Modi worldview. Akbar shouldve said that even Nehru in his worst dreams would not have imagined the country to be hijacked by his own progeny. When Nehru died, Indira was not even among the top contenders to the throne. But with cunning and guile, she usurped it after Shastri and kicked out every detractor from the Congress. The Congress split and became Congress(I), ie the Indira Congress Party. The Nehruvian worldview which the likes of Sardesai profess so passionately had ended when the bracketed “I” was added to the name of Congress.
And Akbar very cleverly states that even Mahatma Gandhi talked about Ram Rajya, so why do we even blame the BJP/RSS? Ram Rajya was never a Hindu Kingdom, rather it was a desirable society of equality and justice, without the prejudices of religion. When the Mahatma himself desired it, he was castigated by Jinnah, who subsequently painted Gandhi as a Hindu fascist. Most Pakistanis believe that Gandhi was no better than Modi! And here we are trying to painfully differentiate between the two.
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March 27, 2014 at 10:29 AM
“Akbar shouldve said that even Nehru in his worst dreams would not have imagined the country to be hijacked by his own progeny.”
yes but it does not follow from everything you’ve said in your paragraph and even accepting everything (which I of course don’t) that because a Nehruvian vision has been ‘disappointed’ or co-opted and in ways that would have shocked Nehru, the only way then left is a Modi alternative. In fact one could easily make the claim that no matter how much Indira Gandhi’s excesses would have offended Nehru (I am not fan of her myself) or the extraordinary rise in corruption and so forth (though one must be careful not to define this only as an Indian problem. why is it that ‘corruption’ happens to be a serious issue in just about every ‘third world’ country or newly emergent economy or decolonized nation or… whatever label one prefers? there must be something more structural involved here if it’s a global issue.. it cannot just be that there are ‘dirty’ politicians everywhere!) the Modi alternative would have been absolutely anathema to him much as the whole Hindutva model would have been just about the most alien thing to his thinking (a man for whom even Gandhian religiosity was too much to digest and this when the Gandhian structure was itself very far from any notion of Hindutva in the politically militant sense). Put differently if one is a disappointed Democrat or Republican in the US that by no means implies that one jumps over to the other side. Because the disappointment is about something within one’s field of political allegiance. In other words one might want the Republican side or the Democratic side to ‘fixed’ (depending on one’s position) without wishing to migrate to the other side in the name of ‘efficiency’ or ‘better management’ or what have you. Now for some people who are much more on the fences politically (soft Republicans or soft Democrats.. it’s then a question of what the reigning issue of the day is) this sort of migration might work. It certainly is a phenomenon in every democracy. But in most Western democracies the stakes of the debate are in most historical periods far less sharply etched. It would not have made a huge difference in a structural sense even if Bush Sr had won in 1992. However it would have made for one if Romney had won in 2012. But by and large the Western model tends to be the 1992 one. In India on the other hand it’s usually something between 1992 and 2012 even if it isn’t always 2012.
The question then might be: even accepting all of this what does one do as a practical matter if the choice is between the current Congress and the BJP? For me the choice is a relatively simple one. I would vote for the Congress. Even though I agree with almost all of the criticism directed against them. Why do I submit to this ‘blackmail’? Because I am completely certain looking at not just the historical record but everything that is happening elsewhere around the world today that corruption and cronyism and so on are not problems particular to the Congress. Can things still be better than they are currently on these fronts? Absolutely! But if the price for this difference in degree is to be paid with the kind of toxic politics (in my worldview) that the BJP provides (specially via a messenger like Modi) this trade is unacceptable to me. Much as in 1992 I could fathom a Democrat voting for Bush Sr. That wouldn’t seem to be an unreasonable choice but in 2012 I would consider the same option to be non-existent. Precisely because of what I would consider the extremism of the Republicans on most issues.
So again even if I agree with you on everything with respect to your critique of Congress I still cannot subscribe to this fantasy of a BJP in power where all these ills magically vanish because Modi is a great administrator (assuming there’s no debate on this.. also something I don’t accept in an uncomplicated sense as I’ve gotten into before). There are always tradeoffs in politics. It might make me queasy to vote for this Congress and reward them in any sense but voting for the BJP would make me sicker still!
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March 27, 2014 at 12:24 PM
Unfortunately, 5 more years of Congress with Rahul at the helm will result in a far far worse result than your most pessimistic apprehensions about a BJP/Modi rule.What will be the worst case scenario of a Modi govt? That the hole we are already in, will only get dug deeper. It surely cannot be deeper than what the Congress will anyway dig. So why give them a chance. A party with pitiable little to show for over the past 10 yrs cannot be given another 5 years to push us deeper into the abyss. If the BJP does the same, so be it, at least we wouldve tried and failed, rather than not tried an alternative at all.
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March 27, 2014 at 12:58 PM
I don’t actually have a pessimistic prediction here. I just don’t believe you get these sea-changes in areas that seem to be important to you (corruption et al) because these are structural ones. They don’t happen at the level of individuals. I also think that it’s rather naive to believe that if a system incentivizes corruption that one party would simply not engage in it! In the US Congress I don’t believe the Republicans are more corrupt in any essential sense even if I might not ideologically favor them. Or put differently there is an institutional corruption in American politics where both parties are quite happy to partake of it. You go to countries like Italy or Japan and every other party PM is implicated in a corruption scandal or worse. In the rest of the world similarly these issues occur on an epic scale. How is it then possible to believe that a BJP govt will represent a sea change? Are there differences in degree? Sure. But I don’t believe the difference in degree occurs at the kind of magnitude you’re thinking of. On the rest I talked about ideological differences that have to be part of the mix. So yes corruption might be no worse or even better under the BJP and given ten years it might not seem like a huge thing at this level but there will be other things that are. For instance the rewriting of history books and other kinds of textbooks to represent the worst kinds of ideologies and in ways that have nothing to do with a science (social or natural or otherwise). The BJP has already done this in states they’ve controlled at different levels. Much as in the US in states like TX ‘Creationism’ is taught as an alternative. Here it’s about basic protocols being reflected at the level of education. These are not inessential things. Whatever one’s beliefs one hopes that a school does not teach the Big Bang theory alongside an Adam and Eve one as comparable ‘theories’! There are all sorts of other essential things like social issues, constitutional issues, minority issues etc. So it’s not as if ten years doesn’t make a difference!
The really amusing thing here is to a) find people who sometimes consider the Republican party (US) more harmful than the BJP! b) people who are otherwise very devoted to ideals of science and verifiability (almost to a fault) and various other freedoms indispensable in a US context and suddenly consider these very things expendable when it comes to India.
‘Corruption’ is a serious issue but one has to understand it in more serious ways. Beyond this corruption has always been the pet obsession of bourgeois classes in the subcontinent. Along with ‘efficient administration’. It’s not just in the subcontinent but really something common the world over. This is precisely what always opens the door to fascism. The fascist always promises both (efficiency, economic gains) and at least for a while delivers on them. The middle classes are willing to trade any value and any principle (I only exaggerate a little) as long as they can get trains running on time and less corruption! These things are important. I am hardly sneering at good administration. But there are things in life that are more important and of course ‘good administration’ itself should be understood more expansively. I’m not going to stir up a different debate here.
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March 26, 2014 at 9:32 AM
Mehnat modi aur unke group kare aur phal khaaye the likes of late entrants like M.J.Akbar. What prevented him from joining one year ago? When tiger or lion makes a kill, the jackals and vultures wait for some part.
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March 27, 2014 at 8:15 AM
Rather, mehnat (ie development and governance) kar-kar-karke apne gireybaan se daag mitaye hain, to jo log shak kartey they, woh is mehnat ka nateeja dekhkar dheerey dheerey Modi ke paas aa rahe hain.
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March 27, 2014 at 2:48 PM
The absolute fact is – VOTE for BJP and get your old congress MP back!!
LOL!!!!
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March 27, 2014 at 6:51 PM
One, it excludes the very possibility of “right-liberal” and “left conservative” identities (E.g.: Why can I not be a supporter of free markets but not of hard-core cultural nationalism?)
Two, it assumes identity is a rigid, inflexible unchangeable concept – you are either “this” or “that” and changing stand from one side to the other is considered no less then heresy (E.g.: A politician defecting from the INC to the BJP is automatically labelled “communal”)
Three, it assumes that political parties and their supporters can be neatly categories in one of only two pre-defined and inflexible ideological camps (E.g.: The Congress and AAP folks or left liberal and BJP / NDA brigade is right conservative).
Such rigid categorisation of concepts like identity and ideology not only oversimplifies what is a fairly complex matter but also leads one to pass generalised black and white statements such as this famous one by George W Bush “You are either with us or against us”… which begs the question “What if I am neither”
http://centreright.in/2014/03/the-rise-of-the-right-liberal-indian/#.UzSqv8tOXIV
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March 27, 2014 at 7:03 PM
Could one be a supporter of a Republican just for his or her economics and ask him or her to keep the Christian fundamentalism at home? Life sadly is not quite as simple as this..
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March 27, 2014 at 7:10 PM
true, but it seems when it comes to Modi, it becomes pretty straightforward for some…
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March 27, 2014 at 6:52 PM
First, it is myopic to view Modi’s journey only from the prism of his prime ministerial ambitions. Modi has relentlessly pursued the halo of a development oriented leader right from aftermath of the Gujarat riots of 2002. He has been clear in his mind that only this metamorphosis could help him escape the ignominy of 2002. Yes, there has been the usual segues in the ‘Miyan Musharraf’ kind of rhetoric but it has never been the major plank of Modi’s electoral pitch. Never to shy away from a fight, Modi has responded to the jab of his ‘secular’ opponents, but his overt political argument has always been a mixture of development with an appeal to Gujarati regional pride. The critics may dismiss this as the magic of public relations or attribute it to solely to the devilish APCO but a politician can hardly be blamed for embellishing his own role in his state’s march towards prosperity. In that sense, Modi’s campaign has been a continuation of his Gujarat politics over the last two election cycles: The primary appeal has been development backed by personal braggadocio. Those who expected his campaign to focus solely on Ayodhya or the usual Hindutva arguments severely underestimate the craftiness and intelligence of Modi the politician. His arguments may not be couched in the flowery language which pleases the permanent inhabitants of the Indian International Center but Modi is clearly one of the most talented politicians of his generation.
Second, Modi enjoys one tremendous advantage over the likes of Advani or his other rivals within the BJP. Among his core supporters, there are no apprehensions about his true ideological beliefs. Modi has little to gain from employing overtly divisive rhetoric because those who would vote for him because he is perceived as the Hindutva icon are already firmly in his camp. And yet, he has been careful not to cross the red lines which may signify a tectonic ideological shift—for instance, he has expressly refused to apologize for the Gujarat riots or admitted the slightest sense of guilt. It is a careful balancing act but the rest test awaits Prime Minister Modi: Managing his more fervid supporters would perhaps be his greatest challenge.
http://retributions.nationalinterest.in/modi-the-moderate/
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March 27, 2014 at 6:54 PM
The argument is far more subtle. The core Modi supporters believe that Muslims are a pampered lot who run amok in the name of secularism and disproportionately influence the political discourse to the detriment of the more numerical but hopelessly divided Hindus. The principal idea here is to make the Muslims realize their place in the society. And once they are cognizant of their diminished influence, there would neither be any need for violence or any display of overt religiosity. In other words: the silence of the graveyard.
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March 27, 2014 at 7:09 PM
Hindutva in this narrative is at the very least guilty of ‘mathematical imbecility’ if nothing else! Much as the Jews were running Europe. These groups change in different situations but somehow the minority is really running the show and the overwhelming majority is just having to put up with it! On the rest I actually agree with this account of what the Modi supporters or the Hindutva brigade stands for. This is the problem. It’s terrifying! of course I could once again change Jews for Muslims and so on and without changing a word everything could be applied to Nazi Germany. People tend to be offended when I keep drawing this analogy but why not check out the relevant literature?! and of course the infatuation with fascism, even Hitler is hardly a secret in many Hindutva ranks. There’s a reason why the RSS youth exercises are modeled on those of the SS.
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March 27, 2014 at 7:12 PM
have you heard the latest speech of congress Candidate from Saharanpur?
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March 27, 2014 at 7:20 PM
No. but this is beside the point. why?
1)there is no problem with the discourse of Hindutva
2)even if there is look at Congress
one can’t have it both ways. It’s like if a Democrat says something racist or sexist that doesn’t mean the Republicans and the Democrats are the same.
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March 27, 2014 at 7:23 PM
of course the real sign of culture and civilization in my book isn’t about who supports the congress and who the BJP but who likes Manmohan Desai! And the true Desai lover would always know where not to stray! Ha!
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March 27, 2014 at 7:32 PM
LOL !! Desai would have made a great movie on the current affairs.
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March 27, 2014 at 7:04 PM
this is a crazy kind of logic.. using my favorite Hitler example it would be a bit like saying.. his anti-Semitism is completely genuine as are his other positions.. there are no doubts here.. we can trust him!
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March 27, 2014 at 7:08 PM
Islam is a close corporation and the distinction that it makes between Muslims and non-Muslims is a very real, very positive and very alienating distinction. The brotherhood of Islam is not the universal brotherhood of man. It is brotherhood of Muslims for Muslims only. There is a fraternity but its benefit is confined to those within that corporation. For those who are outside the corporation, there is nothing but contempt and enmity” – This was not Savarkar or Golwalkar. This was Ambedkar in his book “Pakistan or The Partition of India”.
Ambedkar also makes the same point that Varshney objects to in Savarkar’s arguments, namely their loyalty. “Islam is a system of social self-government and is incompatible with local self-government, because the allegiance of a Muslim does not rest on his domicile in the country which is his but on the faith to which he belongs. To the Muslim, wherever there is the rule of Islam, there is his own country. In other words, Islam can never allow a true Muslim to adopt India as his motherland and regard a Hindu as his kith and kin”, he says.
http://ram-madhav.blogspot.in/2014/03/rejoinder-to-ashutosh-varshney.html?spref=tw
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March 27, 2014 at 9:29 PM
These observations really do not apply to contemporary Islam. The wealthy GCC Arabs are distinct (even from one another), and they keep everyone else at an arms length.They have a clear pyramidal structure, in which the Royals are at the top, and the only empathy they have for their less fortunate Muslim brethren is exercised by a few gifts/alms (khairat). However, they will never let the sub-continental muslims have a place on the table. So Bush or Prince Charles can be invited to traditional tribal dances by the Saudis, but you will never see a Pakistani President been given that honor.
The sooner that the sub-continental less fortunate ones realize this, the faster they will all start assuming their own national identities.
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March 27, 2014 at 9:34 PM
agreed on this..
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March 27, 2014 at 9:40 PM
I frequently hear commentary in the sub-continent that thanks the Almighty for the oil bounty bestowed upon Islam. They talk as if the Saudis are writing checks for every Muslim in the sub-continent. These commentators would be thrown in a desert jail if they even dared to express the same opinions while in the GCC. However, ignorant people buy such yarns at their own detriment.
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March 28, 2014 at 4:35 AM
First Ha har modi. Then it is durga shlok turned into something else.
Now I will suggest one more if it is already is not there.
Jai Shree Modi. Instead of Ram or Krishna.
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March 28, 2014 at 9:20 AM
Aamir Khan writes to EC against AAP:
http://www.samachar.com/Aamir-Khan-upset-with-his-image-on-AAP-poster-writes-to-Election-Commission-od2rKjacgge.html
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March 28, 2014 at 10:52 AM
I think he does not want to be associated with any political party.
If he associates with aap publicly, it will do more harm to aap as it will polarise votes. and there will be backlash for aamir.
He allegedly said that he will lend his support to aap if it performs well in the polls.
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March 28, 2014 at 3:18 PM
The joke going around it;
Amir Khan: “Public ko ache candidate ko vote dena chahiye”
Other Parties: “OMG he’s endorsing AAP”
LOL!!
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March 28, 2014 at 11:26 AM
Induction of expelled JD(U) leader Sabir Ali on Friday triggered angry protest within BJP, with senior leader Mukhtar Abbas Naqvi terming him as a “friend” of Indian Mujahideen chief Yasin Bhatkal and mocking that Dawood Ibrahim could be the next entrant.
“Terrorist Bhatakal friend join BJP…soon accepting dawood………,” Naqvi tweeted, hours after Ali was inducted into the party with much fanfare as it was seen as a boost to the BJP’s attempts to attract Muslims.
Terrorist Bhatakal friend join BJP…soon accepting dawood………
— Mukhtar Abbas Naqvi (@naqvimukhtar) March 28, 2014
Naqvi, a muslim face and Vice President of the party, said he will convey his protest to the BJP leadership.
Justifying his opposition to the induction, he alleged that Bhatkal was arrested from Ali’s Mumbai residence some time ago.
He also alleged that Ali’s name had figured in the murder case of noted music magnate Gulshan Kumar.
The fresh controversy comes days after the one over induction of Sri Ram Sene chief Pramod Muthalik in Karnataka. The entry was scrapped within hours after strong criticism from both within and outside the party as Muthalik had been involved in attack on women in pubs few years back.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/home/lok-sabha-elections-2014/news/Mukhtar-Abbas-Naqvi-protests-induction-of-terrorist-Bhatkals-friend-Sabir-Ali-in-BJP/articleshow/32861915.cms
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March 28, 2014 at 11:28 AM
Soon that botibotiwala may also be inducted.
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March 28, 2014 at 11:43 AM
Sure, lol. anything for the magic 272+.
After that Hitler Modi will set them all straight.
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March 28, 2014 at 11:46 AM
But seriously, I have never seen a party cause so much fear among opposing forces. So either they are choosing not to contest or are just quitting their positions and joining the bandwagon. The ground reality might indeed be giving indications of a massive wave in the next few weeks.
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March 28, 2014 at 12:10 PM
“What will be the worst case scenario of a Modi govt? That the hole we are already in, will only get dug deeper. It surely cannot be deeper than what the Congress will anyway dig. So why give them a chance. A party with pitiable little to show for over the past 10 yrs cannot be given another 5 years to push us deeper into the abyss. If the BJP does the same, so be it, at least we wouldve tried and failed, rather than not tried an alternative at all…”
Very well said and this itself begs for change of guard. Except Kejriwal and to an extent Nitish Kumar, have not seen any valid opposition to Modi since alternatives in Mulayam, Mayawati etc are worse off.
Time is also ripe for the Hindutva forces to have one more shot at the helm and satisfy themselves for wanting to change the nation. The only minus here is it will hurt a bit more since desh ke naam par chori hogee. BJP should seriously throw Nitin Gadkari kind of people from the party but the opposite is happening with inclusion of Paswan etc ….there is chor written on his face like what we feel when we see sharad pawar.
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March 28, 2014 at 12:48 PM
As far as the chor-participants, there will be no difference as compared to any govt of the past 40 yrs. The only diff being that the guy at the top (ie Modi) is hellbent on creating a legacy for himself, as a sort of savior of India, who took India into the exalted league of nations. He will break the back of anyone who opposes that march, and will ensure that all this kachra-pati crowd is controlled.
We do need Kejriwal to always keep irritating these chors and holding their feet to the fire, but a Modi is needed to jumpstart the reforms/development process all over again.
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March 28, 2014 at 1:11 PM
Agree on all points there and it’s definitely worth a try.
But in India there is a very important factor if I can’t have it, neither can you and the
crab mentality will not let him survive. India is such a diverse nation and unless he comes across a universal leader, it’s very difficult to sustain and be productive. I imagined Advani all this at one time , but look where he is today !
The plus here is that he has support of the big money, the Ambanis and the business houses and if they selflessly wish well for the nation then we do have hope.
Further I am a bit skeptical if a free hand is given to Modi, where you have a concentration of power in a few hands, all too frequently men with the mentality of gangsters get control. History has proven that.
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March 28, 2014 at 1:29 PM
Again, the diff here is that this guy is a loner, with no one else to hand over the reins to. His own brother criticizes him, all he wants to do is prove that he is the next Kamal Ataturk or Deng Xiaoping. He has no other agenda, but to have praises showered on him for the developmental work he can do. There is no doubt that corruption will not stop, and a lot of development will go to crony capitalists. But at least there will be development, there will be infrastructure construction, roads, electricity, etc. The Cong was only busy lining its own pockets without any of these things. They built a few airports and started thinking that they have done it all. That’s not how it is done.
Thoda khao, thoda pheko. Congress sirf khata gaya. Modi kuch bhi nahi khata, kaam karta hai, aur thodasa phekta bhi hai. But he achieves a 100 and hypes it to 1000, where Cong could not even achieve 10.
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March 28, 2014 at 5:20 PM
The way BJP is compromising to get that majority shows that they will be happy as long as they will get power by hook or crook and even modi cant do anything drastic as states will oppose everything in the name of federalism as modi himself did with Lokayukta.. Modi has no vision for India. He is like a frog in the well thinking if he can win gujarat, he can win India. We will have the same type of rule when Vajpayee was the PM. But with more corruption as corruption has come to stay. there will be no change. Kashmir problem, naxalism, arunachal pradesh will be there. And FDI will evoke much controversy. Congress will enjoy repeating what BJP did to the congress. Not allowing parliament to function. Role reversal.
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March 29, 2014 at 5:43 AM
The bought and paid media is not giving any prominence to this news. So I thought I’d post it here.
The horror miner Vedanta eating up mountains pays both BJP and congress – just like Ambani.
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March 29, 2014 at 5:45 AM
LOL!!
Just look where this newspaper tucks in, this major piece of news.
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March 29, 2014 at 5:46 AM
Sorry, forgot to mention – It is Delhi HIGH COURT Ruling. Action to be taken within 6 months.
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March 29, 2014 at 7:11 AM
The Ultimate UTURN by Keju !!
http://www.theunrealtimes.com/2014/03/28/in-pictures-revealed-how-aap-is-planning-to-win-the-lok-sabha-elections/
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March 29, 2014 at 7:48 AM
*groan* again a link to opinion. Satyam should declare these as spam.
High court ki bhi toh suno.
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March 29, 2014 at 7:12 AM
Saving secularism from the ‘secularists’
Selective grandstanding by Left-liberal intellectuals is hurting pluralism and balkanizing India
http://www.livemint.com/Opinion/NjnmAZDTjUMUyZjhETSzIL/Saving-secularism-from-the-secularists.html
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March 29, 2014 at 7:43 AM
Both have the same lifeline be it vedanta or ambani LOL
There is no danger. All are safe.
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April 1, 2014 at 6:29 AM
Is the BJP’s Confidence Cracking?
https://in.news.yahoo.com/is-the-bjp-s-confidence-cracking-055958865.html
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April 4, 2014 at 3:57 AM
‘India deserves better than Modi,’ says The Economist, BJP furious
http://www.ndtv.com/elections/article/election-2014/india-deserves-better-than-modi-says-the-economist-bjp-furious-504250?pfrom=home-lateststories
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April 4, 2014 at 12:37 PM
http://www.economist.com/news/leaders/21600106-he-will-probably-become-indias-next-prime-minister-does-not-mean-he-should-be-can-anyone
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April 4, 2014 at 4:05 AM
http://www.ndtv.com/elections/article/election-2014/arvind-kejriwal-slapped-in-delhi-attacker-beaten-by-aap-men-504329?pfrom=home-lateststories
Mr Kejriwal was slapped on the neck while he was campaigning in the Dakshinpuri area of south Delhi ahead of the national election from next week. He was in an open jeep when a man caught hold of his sleeve and hit him.
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April 4, 2014 at 9:59 AM
He has confessed to the police he was paid Rs 25000 for this. The police refuses to disclose the name of who paid.
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April 6, 2014 at 11:26 AM
He turned out to be a muslim man living in old delhi. The least likely to be a BJP supporter, rather a paid AAP agent getting free publicity for Kejri.
After Kejri’s outburst against the media, even his own supporters in the media have started ignoring his rallies and statements. All these fabricated events have been done to keep his presence on TV going, but by now everyone has already figured him out. Actually, everyone is relieved that they not have a permanent Kejri countenance burnt on their TV screens.
I feel really bad, this was one honest guy who just did not know the essential ‘chanakya-neeti’ of Indian Politics. He lost his way spectacularly in this muck, and possibly will drown in it. Hopefully he will learn from his errors and misjudgements, and concentrate on what really needs to be done to fix the system. First and foremost, please cut down on all the dramabaazi and actually deliver something worthy.
Second, avoid the hardcore leftists in his group who advise him to freely distribute doles/sops without balancing the books. He really needs to embrace people who actually want to work to earn a living and pay their bills on time.
Start with these two suggestions, and you will see how all the AAP support comes roaring back.
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April 4, 2014 at 12:42 PM
http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/04/03/eich-steps-down-as-mozilla-chief/
People don’t understand when they ask people to do things. People are asking to stop using Firefox but they also don’t know that he developed javascript as well. So by definition they should stop using internet (Most browsers use it)?
ps – Think if K&R (Developer of C) had said or done something like this. Most of the things we use have some form of usage of it. They literally have to go to stone age.
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April 4, 2014 at 12:52 PM
Firefox is my favourite browser and I dont care about what those gay rights people say.
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April 4, 2014 at 1:48 PM
LOL! Really amusing to see Modi detractors clutching at straws.
There is still a section of media that is trying valiantly but unsuccessfully to thwart Modi and put road blocks in front of this juggernaut.
Modi is our next PM. You can take it to the bank. More importantly be smart, respect the interests of India as a nation,be honest and abondon the stances dictated by well intentioned but confused and self defeating liberal ideology! This is a common pitfall for extremists on both sides of the argument. Sometimes they fall so much in love with their argument that they get deluded and incapable of seeing the truth staring them in the face. The conservative right in the US and the left leaning liberals of Indian origin are both similar in this respect. They would actually prefer the corrupt,immoral Congress led alliance over BJP or empower this idiot Kejri to siphon off some vote from BJP. But this self righteous, pious-only-in-their-minds ideology is destructive. Unfortunately for them, this time the Modi tsunami is going to crash their fond hopes.
I hope there is enough egg around to cover all their faces!
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April 4, 2014 at 2:53 PM
Rajen sir, control karo sahib….
Bina Chutney key Dhokla Hai Bekaar..
Ab kee baar Modi Sarkaar !!
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April 4, 2014 at 2:56 PM
Dekhenge Pehlee Baar, Sickulars kee overdue Haar!!
Abkee Baar Modi Sarkaar !!!
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April 4, 2014 at 5:10 PM
ab ki baar modi ki haar
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April 5, 2014 at 9:20 AM
Seems likelier now, especially since the Congress’ pet votebank (ie Muslims voting as a single block) has been broken apart by Kejri. Congress-AAP will split the Muslim votes, and they will indirectly help BJP. All this time, the Congress was silent on Kejri, now suddenly after realizing the bigger picture, they have started calling AAP as the B Team of BJP!
The fear is so great that even ticketed candidates of the Congress are jumping ship and heading to the BJP.
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April 5, 2014 at 10:21 AM
haha not only that but congress ministers arenow in BJP:
here look at them,
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April 11, 2014 at 3:47 AM
shazia ilmi’s brother is in bjp to
anna hazare and kejriwal aid vk singh is in bjp, kiran bedi is in bjp to above i won’t embarass on how kejriwal praised a certain modi before election of delhi…shree 420
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April 5, 2014 at 10:22 AM
Such a government will not last more than a year.
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April 11, 2014 at 3:57 AM
election ka kharcha kaun dega that to being costliest ever
who will bear rising inflation and a week government in delhi will only lead to policy paralysis and can appeal to anti nationals
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April 11, 2014 at 12:59 PM
BJP may run out of their money by the time this election ends, considering how they are spending, but if the nation can bear the heavy weight of the immense wealth lost in scams then it can well bear this.
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April 12, 2014 at 1:38 AM
even an illetrate person knows election bjp nahi karwati and neither is alone spending..speaking rubbish don’t help but speaking on content does
http://www.ibtimes.com/indias-2014-elect..ion-cost-5-billion-second-only-price-tag-2012-us-presidential-election-1570668
for scams who is ruling for last decade bjp or other way
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April 12, 2014 at 1:43 AM
http://www.ibtimes.com/indias-2014-election-cost-5-billion-second-only-price-tag-2012-us-presidential-election-1570668
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April 4, 2014 at 3:41 PM
Right on Rocky Bhai, I am with you on this.
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April 4, 2014 at 6:15 PM
Thanks Ravi bhai. long time no see ..hope all is good !! still in Florida?
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April 4, 2014 at 5:18 PM
You sound insecure and nervous. Why? Look at all those crooks and spooks making up the party+ alliance to reach the magic number.
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April 5, 2014 at 12:09 AM
Yes, Rocky Bhai. Still in sunny Fl.
Better there than u in Chicago and the other folks in NY particularly this winter.
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April 5, 2014 at 11:21 AM
ha ha, ya this winter in Chicago was brutal, batteries of both of my cars died on me, my garage door would not open, it took me almost 2.5 hours to get to work on 2-3 occasions.
Phat key haath mein aa gayee !!!
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April 5, 2014 at 8:57 AM
http://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik/la-fi-mh-gay-marriage-20140404,0,7985087.story#axzz2y12Nd2aU
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April 5, 2014 at 8:44 PM
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/home/lok-sabha-elections-2014/news/Will-choose-BJP-over-Congress-Kumar-Vishwas/articleshow/33302121.cms
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April 6, 2014 at 3:56 PM
http://m.timesofindia.com/entertainment/hindi/bollywood/news-interviews/Vir-Dass-open-letter-to-Rahul-Modi-and-Kejriwal/articleshow/33167492.cms
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April 7, 2014 at 10:24 AM
“ I wish we were all mature enough to see that irrespective of who you support, there are realities about our leadership that can be recognized, and should be questioned. I wish you could see that you getting behind a candidate does not suddenly make that candidate infallible. I wish you knew that spewing hatred and abuse towards people who support opposing candidates or parties only makes your candidate seem weaker and your whole ideology seem false.”
Very nicely written and very relevant to the Indian thinking in general.
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April 11, 2014 at 3:39 AM
http://www.ndtv.com/video/player/the-buck-stops-here/fair-is-foul-is-campaign-2014-the-most-vitriolic-ever/316676
will hurt badly…ssubramaniam swamy taking burqa and diggy into cleaners on home turf with disdain and authority
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April 11, 2014 at 3:53 AM
what is more embarassing to see leader of congress in gujrat telling congreswala to behave properly
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April 11, 2014 at 7:51 AM
Sanjana:
http://www.koimoi.com/bollywood-news/ayesha-takia-slams-father-in-law-abu-azmi/
Why SP is behaving like a regressive party? Mulayam’s comment and then Abu Azmi’s comment. So they want votes in this way?
Muthalik also airs similar views.
Supreme Court in a subtle way is making hanging obsolete even for Nirbhaya’s rapists. Maybe this is encouraging people like Mulayam to make outrageous statements.
Hope Supreme Court makes its stand clear and put an end to all this once and for all.
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April 11, 2014 at 8:12 AM
The other day I was taking some Xerox copies at a centre and casually asked the owner which party he is voting for. He said not NCP but Sharad Pawar’s Party. This time personalities are taking over parties.
Modi, Rahul, Kejriwal, Sharad Pawar, Mulayam, Mayawati, Jayalalitha, Mamata have become larger than their respective parties.
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April 11, 2014 at 9:02 PM
“The other day I was taking some Xerox copies at a centre.”
Sanju–are u preparing for some exam?
Some how that reminds me of the ‘cosmopolitan non-stereotyped’ South Indian gal played Alia bhatt in 2 states …lol
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April 14, 2014 at 12:37 PM
…and Keju refuses to sing Vande Matram and Bharat Mata kee Jai in Muslim dominated areas of Punjab.. Jai Ho !!
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April 14, 2014 at 2:25 PM
nina nayak defended the juvenile mohammed afroz in nirbhaya case contesting from bangalore south from aap
http://www.thehansindia.com/posts/index/2013-09-01/8216Most-brutal8217-juvenile-convict-gets-3-years-70734
Subramanian Swamy has declared that he would move the Supreme Court against the verdict, saying, “The verdict was delivered, based on an incomplete law.” Swamy said the age of the juvenile should be lowered. Magsaysay Award winner and country’s first woman IPS officer Kiran Bedi insisted that the juvenile should be lodged in Tihar Jail in the Capital and not sent to remand home. Kiran Bedi said grave crimes like rape and murder were committed. Referring to generational change, adolescents now are committing crimes consciously and taking advantage of their age, which is why, she argued, law must be changed. Society is changing and maturity levels are changing and so the law must also change, she said.
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April 14, 2014 at 2:27 PM
http://www.frequency.com/video/remember-delhi-nirbhaya-gang-rape-case/162004349/-/5-4355295
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April 14, 2014 at 1:52 PM
sawmi on fire with research:
Subramanian Swamy @Swamy39 Apr 11
Kapil Sibal has left out his wife’s butcher Khana “Arisha” and his own shares in Tehelka. Will file complaint
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April 14, 2014 at 1:54 PM
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April 14, 2014 at 1:57 PM
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April 14, 2014 at 2:10 PM
Nissim Mannathukkaren makes all the ‘sane’ points in the Modi debate. But all the hyperlinks should also be accessed here to get the complete contours of the debate.
http://www.outlookindia.com/article.aspx?290129
I would in any case be soft on anyone guided by Derridean thought (!) but the author displays a certain theoretical sophistication by virtue of this background that is rare in journalism, whether in India or otherwise. There is very little one could add in this sense.
I should add in a Zizekian vein though that only those who want to seriously ‘read’ should engage with these pieces. for the rest it’s a dangerous enterprise!
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April 14, 2014 at 2:17 PM
and even for those who don’t want to get into all the hyperlinks just the same author’s earlier ‘Banality of Evil’ piece should be instructive for the eye-opening facts on Gujarat’s ‘development’.
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April 14, 2014 at 2:30 PM
a comment I left on twitter:
[Many on the Right have this triumphant tone about how irrespective of any debate Modi is going to win. As if victory somehow settles all such questions. Of course what does victory mean anyway? Beginning with Hitler modern history is littered with fascists who won elections. So what?! If anything we should know by now that the bourgeois classes are willing to give up on any value and principle as long as they are promised good roads and the trains running on time! It will be a tragic day for India if Modi wins as seems quite likely, a day of national shame as far as I’m concerned. A sober reminder of the distance this nation-state has traveled from Nehru’s foundational moment. But one should not be totally surprised either. We see the signs of this ‘degradation’ in the culture at various levels. And here I will draw a provocative link between Hindi cinema as it once was and ‘Bollywood’ today. It is only in the age of ‘Bollywood’ that Modi’s election becomes possible in any sense. When Ganga Ki saugandh was running in the theaters this possibility was foreclosed! which doesn’t mean that authoritarianism on the left wasn’t possible or that it did not have its own dark moments or excessive history. Cinema is a symptom of the larger societal fold as much as anything else. Even in a privileged sense. The unfortunate thing is that even ‘good liberals’ are usually the last ones in on the joke. In more ways than one.]
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April 14, 2014 at 3:14 PM
I am enjoying public tragic Meltdown of fake liberals and seculars…..
Right now this meltdown is epidemic 😀 . Read Baru’s & Parikhs’s book.. Do upgrade from extreme blind hate to less hate…
What values ?? Last 10 yrs one Evil Fascist Lady kept puppet at 7rcr and some ppl talk abt values and tragic…
Keep meltdown coming…
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April 14, 2014 at 2:34 PM
soft fascism has been nailed by Madhu Kiswar’s book…do update or upgrade it helps
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April 14, 2014 at 2:48 PM
what will a one trick pony keep harping the same taperecorder…
for record kishwar was the one of the top left leaning historicians who wrote in favour of modi refuting most garbage
honest debate require facts and knowledge not rheotric andc selective amnesia and outlook, tehelka and cobrapost are what known to people with slight bit of intellect
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April 14, 2014 at 3:10 PM
Rockstar the piece you put is the one I just referenced. Not sure why you put it up again. Secondly when you put up links, use extracts, don’t put up super-long pieces along with the links.
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April 14, 2014 at 3:21 PM
didn’t saw the whole bit…my context was to show you how after a while even left liberal are responding to it imagine a known critic later wrote modinama
question to be asked in lok sabha gandhi’s are elected from u.p, ajit singh the strong jata leader happened to be aviation minister and mulayam’s party is giving support still muzaffnagar happens
mms get elected from assam in rajya sabha and what happened is worst than these so called programs and its not 02 but 13-14…
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April 14, 2014 at 4:18 PM
The ignorant and illiterate allegations of the BJP person against AAP candidate from Karnataka has been answered by the AAP of Karnataka.
AAP Karnataka Press Release dated 14.04,2014
BJP leader Sri. Subramanian Swamy has launched a reckless attack, in a jittery state, against the AAP Bangalore South Candidate, Smt. Nina Nayak on his Facebook page on 14/4/2014, making wholly false, illegal & defamatory allegations the candidate. He has dedicated a separate creative banner post on the Facebook page against her.
Though one isn’t surprised about the person & the party that are making these allegations, only because there have been deliberate & deceitful misrepresentation of law & facts, this clarification is being issued. This is intended to bring light upon a very misunderstood but most important law relating to children in this country, namely, The Juvenile Justice Act 2000. This Act was brought into force by Indian parliament after India became signatory to the landmark International Treaty ie, The United Nations’ Convention on The Rights of Child (UNCRC). The UNCRC prescribed that any person upto the age of 18 would be considered as a “child’. In compliance with the UNCRC, the Indian Juvenile Justice Act of 2000 also fixed the age of 18 as the age upto which every person in India would be considered as a child.
After the unfortunate Nirbhaya gangrape incident in Delhi, there arose a raging debate on lowering the age from 18 yrs to 16 yrs in the definition of ‘child’. Also, whether those between 16 and 18 years should be dealt with by the regular criminal courts or juvenile boards was a point in question. These contentious issues were deliberated before the Hon’ble Supreme Court as well. The SC in an important judgement (Salil Bali vs. Union of India decided on 17th July 2013) upheld the fixing of age of a child at 18 yrs and also giving separate treatment to children in juvenile boards and not in regular adult criminal courts. Thereafter, the most recent judgement of 3 Judge bench (Dr. Subramanian Swamy v/s Raju Thr. Member, Juvenile Justice Board) headed by CJI P Sathasivam also decided on March 28th 2014 that under international law and Indian law, there is no scope for lowering the age of “constitutionally permissible” fixation upto 18 yrs to define a child..
Very curiously, the person who is indulging in launching the highly defamatory attacks against Smt Nina Nayak was himself an appellant before the SC in which the SC categorically stated: “…we deem it appropriate to part with the cases by dismissing the appeal filed by Dr Subramanian Swamy …”.
When the law says that a child has to be tried under the separate juvenile legal system and not in the regular adult criminal courts, if anyone, whether a member of National Child Rights Commission or a citizen respects the law settled by two recent judgments of the Supreme Court, one would be saying and doing what was and is legal and truthful.
http://www.rediff.com/news/report/juvenile-justice-act-will-stay-as-it-is-supreme-court/20140328.htm
http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/plea-to-try-juveniles-under-normal-law-rejected/article4923581.ece
http://judis.nic.in/supremecourt/imgs1.aspx?filename=40577
http://judis.nic.in/supremecourt/imgs1.aspx?filename=41356
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April 14, 2014 at 4:24 PM
But BJP is so nervous they’ll go to any lengths to put their Modi in that chair.
Throwing stones at women holding rally beating a candidate with rods being the latest.
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April 14, 2014 at 4:27 PM
They should talk about their Modi’s so called Fake clean chit first. So dumb. They can’t see the difference between a woman whose social work is among children, and was speaking about what the law demands rather than claiming the juvenile to be innocent. And this party which such leaders want to lead the nation? Where to?
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April 15, 2014 at 11:00 AM
common analysis of link indicates it was swamy who went against law and now everyone know what she said a link of her on national television is given below :
why to crucify a juvenile one has to look at his background before issuing justice ( its not acceptable when one put rod in female private part )
another tight slap :
http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2014-04-04/news/48867034_1_mn-dwn-98-3-kgd6-oil-ministry
NEW DELHI: State-run Oil and Natural Gas Corp (ONGC) has told the government that gas production from some of its deep-sea fields would be viable only at prices of up to nearly $13 per unit, far more than the controversial price of about $8.4 that Reliance Industries would have charged from April 1 if poll authorities had not vetoed it.
It has asked for prices of $10.72 to $12.63 for two blocks in the Mahanadi basin, close to RIL’s KG-D6 block, where gas has been sold at $4.2 since 2009. The government had approved a new formula in June 2013 that would have nearly doubled the rates but it could not implement it because the election code of conduct was enforced before the oil ministry could collected the necessary data to calculate the new price. The new price also faced strong opposition from the Aam Aadmi Party, which has made it an election issue.
“The company may have to put its plan to develop these discoveries on hold till gas prices are raised between $11 and $13 per unit,” an ONGC executive said, requesting anonymity.
Officials in the Directorate General of Hydrocarbons (DGH) confirmed that ONGC had sought higher prices for gas coming out of the two blocks. “ONGC has sought the help of the government because the project can give an IRR (internal rate of return) of 14% only if gas is priced at $10.72-12.63 per unit,” said a DGH official who did not wish to be named.
ONGC and oil ministry did not respond to email queries from ET. According to government officials and company executives, ONGC’s Mahanadi project would not be viable even at the $8.40 per unit rate. “But, the new pricing formula is dynamic and changes every quarter. Sooner rather than later these discoveries would be commercially viable. Until then we have to wait,” the executive said.
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April 14, 2014 at 4:45 PM
http://www.niticentral.com/2014/03/20/case-of-perjury-and-fraud-against-arvind-kejriwal-201561.html
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April 14, 2014 at 4:50 PM
http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report-supreme-court-rejects-plea-questioning-clean-chit-to-narendra-modi-on-role-in-2002-gujarat-riots-1977348
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April 14, 2014 at 6:02 PM
there is lot talk about this guy “modi” is he some king of polititian or future prime-minister.is he related to BJP or Congress
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April 15, 2014 at 3:43 AM
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/apr/10/if-modi-elected-india-future-gujarat
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April 15, 2014 at 8:17 AM
I am in two minds. Is Modi as dangerous as he sounds? What his followers want actually? Modi rule where hindus will get priority, ban on cow slaughter, vande mataram, hindu way of life, jail for critics, persecution etc. Or is it that they hate congress and they just want to throw congress party and rule the same way practising practical secularism, pragmatism etc.?
Or there is the possibility of third front supported by the congress party.
Too much suspense.
Think Nykavi may give some answers.
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April 15, 2014 at 11:02 AM
http://www.niticentral.com/2014/04/15/congress-workers-attack-subramanian-swamys-house-212070.html
gundagardi on free speech
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April 15, 2014 at 11:05 AM
on record subramaniam swamy is the man responsible for opening up various scam including 2g single handedly on court and currently india’s biggest whistle blower
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April 15, 2014 at 11:10 AM
http://www.thesundayindian.com/en/story/how-congress-destroys-democratic-institutions/7/44958/
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April 15, 2014 at 11:12 AM
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April 15, 2014 at 11:19 AM
http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/subramaniam-swamy-busted-the-2g-scam/1/153417.html
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April 15, 2014 at 11:25 AM
http://shobhaade.blogspot.in/2014/04/who-wants-to-be-mrs-gabbar-singh.html
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April 16, 2014 at 11:08 AM
MUMBAI: The Hindi film industry, which prides itself on its secular image, appears to be taking sides for the first time during this Lok Sabha elections with some Bollywood “A-listers” asking people to vote “strategically” to protect the country’s secular character.
The collective appeal, brainchild of writer Anjum Rajabali and endorsed by several Bollywood bigwigs, says though corruption and governance are “important issues” the country’s secular character is “not negotiable”.
“While corruption and governance are important issues and we have to work out ways of holding our government accountable, India’s secular character is not negotiable,” the appeal says, asking people to “vote strategically to protect country’s secular character”.
Several celebrities including filmmakers Mahesh Bhatt, Imtiaz Ali, Zoya Akhtar, Vishal Bharadwaj, Kabir Khan, singer Shubha Mudgal and “Dhoom 3” director Vijay Krishna Acharya are signatories to the appeal which appeared to have divided Bollywood.
BJP’s prime ministerial contender Narendra Modi is the butt of Congress’s unrelenting tirade over the Gujarat riots during the do-or-die election campaign with the issue of secularism dominating their discourse.
Rajabali, however, insists the celebrities have not appealed to the electors to vote for a particular party or person or taking sides.
“We are not asking or appealing to people to vote for a particular party or person, we are just saying vote for a person or party that is secular. We are not taking sides. Secularism is an important factor. It is the central character of our Indian society. We are appealing to people to keep this in mind while voting,” he told PTI.
“It is not what we meant (anti-modi and pro-Congress), that is not the interpretation. We are appealing to people to vote for someone who is secular. Though majority of people in this country are Hindus but there are Muslims, Parsis, Christians and others as well. So one (party or person) should take care of everyone,” veteran filmmaker Mahesh Bhatt said.
“We film people are citizens of this country and we are appealing to people to vote for the right person. If the BJP or anyone for that matter supports secularism I am with them. The idea of India is to protect everyone politically, economically and socially,” he said.
The initiative by Rajabali and others, however, has not gone down well with many in Bollywood.
“Shocking to see some colleagues, under garb of stopping so-called divisive forces, are themselves dividing a secular place like Bollywood,” filmmaker Madhur Bhandarkar said on Twitter.
“Launching a personal attack on a man who has done more for his state than any other leader, reeks of conspiracy & unwarranted paranoia. Let’s hope better sense prevails and our film industry elects @narendramodi with a thumping majority. It’s time India got a visionary leader,” he said.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/home/lok-sabha-elections-2014/news/Appeal-to-vote-for-secularists-divides-Bollywood/articleshow/33830906.cms
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April 16, 2014 at 11:19 AM
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/home/lok-sabha-elections-2014/news/We-made-a-big-sacrifice-by-resigning-but-public-failed-to-understand-it-Kejriwal/articleshow/33829057.cms
Now Kejriwal is feeling the heat. Resigned in haste and now feeling bad.
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April 16, 2014 at 1:17 PM
http://www.thehindu.com/features/cinema/now-playing-politics/article5867759.ece
http://www.mumbaimirror.com/news/elections-2014/An-appeal-to-voters/articleshow/33789489.cms
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April 16, 2014 at 2:10 PM
Kanchan Gupta @KanchanGupta · 5h
Among the list of ’eminent’ Bollywoodians who have signed petition against voting for NM is an interesting name: Fraudster Teesta Setalvad
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April 16, 2014 at 2:18 PM
ek sey badh kar ek oots in that list …….
VivekAgnihotri @vivekagnihotri · 4h
2 interesting phenomenon. 1. Most of non-Muslim Modi haters are English speaking urban elite. 2. Most don’t know why Modi was banned in US.
Ravi Rai @Raviravirai · 56m
Mr.Rajabali does secular means ‘I don’t follow the law of India’, not singing the national anthem, burning the national flag
Ravi Rai @Raviravirai · 40m
Mr. Rajabali, overbearing of communalism is not secularism
Ravi Rai @Raviravirai · 37m
Mr.Imams, Azam khan, Owaisi brothers, imran masood wear a Gandhi topi and a dushala. .Come on show us you are secular
Ravi Rai @Raviravirai · 1h
Till today we were proud that our film industry was apolitical. Now Anjum Rajabali wants to politicise it by teaching us what is secular
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April 16, 2014 at 2:11 PM
Tusshar @TusshKapoor · 11h
To cover up for corruption & bad governance, the ‘secular’ card is being stretched a bit too far! No party can claim the secular prize!
Tusshar @TusshKapoor · 10h
Also, if development seems to be the mantra for the 2014 polls then that is what Indians, irrespective of religion, need & have waited for!
Tusshar @TusshKapoor · 10h
Its shameful that some from my fraternity have forgotten the basic needs of the poor, rather they’re trying to ‘save India’! From what????
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April 16, 2014 at 2:26 PM
Ashoke Pandit
INTELLECTUAL GENOCIDE
The new fad amongst drawing room activist is to propagate secularism and discard communalism… Under normal intentions it would be a noble thought but the veiled propaganda makes the entire scheme not only look fishy but also reeks of manipulation and vindictiveness towards a targeted group. Especially in this election season it has become a fashion to target the burgeoning popularity of Modi. He has come to stand as a clear line of distinction between the noble and the vested interest groups.
Today in Mumbai Mirror I came across an article that says that a group has been founded by supposed like minded people from the Film Industry to go and vote for secular candidates and party. This kind of movement like propaganda has never been seen in the Hindi film industry. There have been several elections but the Bollywood fraternity never seemed to have bothered about campaigning for an “electoral cause”. What is strange is that this group who boasts of their secular agenda never raised a voice against the systematic cleansing of Sikhs in 1984, Kashmiri Pandit in 1990, Assam Riots in 2013 …. They have never raised or propagated their worries for parties like Samajwadi, Congress or any other political outfits known for their clear minority appeasing politics…. but all their veiled concerns are very much directed towards one party one man. If you feel so strongly against something one should have the spine to stand up and name the concern.
People like Mahesh Bhat, Nandita Das have always been known to have singular apprehension for Modi and their heart bleeds, vocal cord opens only when it is about Modi… Bhat sahab’s family danced merry on the bleeding grounds of Muzzaffarnagar when the riot victims were freezing in open grounds… He went to Gujarat but never bothered to visit the riots victims of UP… May be because Modi’s name was not part of the rioter roaster.
Maximum communal riots have happened in Congress ruled states and era but I have never seen Anjum Rajabali or a Nandita Das show their concern and pain for these riot victims… or is it that only these people hearts bleed if it is the victims of Gujarat of 2002… If the hatred and disdain is so strong… come out in the open and condone. One should take a leaf from super personalities like Rajnikant who had the spine to stand up and give a voice his convictions opens about Modi.
Film industry as a body has never been a divisive force but such vested voices can cause an unnecessary divide. No other industry in this country understands the feeling of secularism than the industry wallahs… A stalwart like Salim Khan who though belongs from a minority… celebrates Christmas, Diwali, Ganpati in the same fervour that he celebrates Id with. This man had the guts to stand up and say that he is secular and supports Modi… He did not go around beating round the bush. If you believe in something don’t shroud your voice with hypocrisy…. your vested interests can’t be veiled in the veil of concern…
The way this entire agenda sounds like if you are a Modi supporter than you are not a secular. This is way beyond humiliating not only for film personalities but also millions of Indians who are gathering to vote for this man to come to power…. This vested group propaganda is like that of the Germans … all that they don’t understand…. stand to be wrong…. and so it be condoned in disdain and annihilation… This is nothing less than an Intellectual Genocide.
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April 16, 2014 at 3:53 PM
If you are not a modi supporter, you are called a traitor, anti national, congress stooge etc. etc. Equating modi with the nation is really an agenda so that they can brand anti modiists as anti national.
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April 17, 2014 at 1:24 AM
now it is becoming predictable congress rant, other notable intellectual terrorism
stay mum on scams and governance
stay mum on how pmo office is compromised by some evil fascist person
be forever there to create fear phychosis but forever remain incompetent to even control riots
talk of seculariism to polarise and accuse others
be mum on how constitutional bodies are compromised
be mum on unsatisfacton growing in army,military and navy
be mum on how a person who hasn’t assumed any office of oath to even crown him pm
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April 17, 2014 at 1:31 AM
http://www.niticentral.com/2014/04/16/mrs-vadra-is-in-trouble-and-she-knows-it-212597.html
In a letter to the Secretary, Ministry of Corporate Affairs, Subramanian Swamy pointed out that as per the Ministry’s own website, Priyanka Vadra had applied for and duly received three DIN numbers. These include 01038703, 01840144 and 02914391 – which is a violation of the Company Act and the Income Tax Act. Interestingly, Robert Vadra’s mother Maureen Vadra has also been allotted two DIN numbers – 01840680 and 01839769.
ection 155 of Companies Act 2013 prohibits any person have having more than one DIN. It says: No individual, who has already been allotted a Director Identification Number under section 154, shall apply for, obtain or possess another Director Identification Number.
The situation was the same under Section 266C of the old Companies Act 1956, and is thus an established legal principle, which fact would have been known to the family chartered accountants.
Section 159 of the Act posits six months imprisonment and a fine up to Rs 50,000, plus a fine of Rs 500 per day. It reads:
If any individual or director of a company, contravenes any of the provisions of section 152, section 155 and section 156, such individual or director of the company shall be punishable with imprisonment for a term which may extend to six months or with fine which may extend to fifty thousand rupees and where the contravention is a continuing one, with a further fine which may extend to five hundred rupees for every day after the first during which the contravention continues.
Section 152 (3) of the Act specifies that no person can be appointed as a director of a company unless he has been allotted a Director Identification Number under section 154. Clause 4 asserts that a person appointed as a director must furnish his Director Identification Number (DIN) along with a declaration that he/she is not disqualified to become a director under this Act. Clause 5 states that no person can act as a director unless he gives his consent to hold the office as director and such consent has been filed with the Registrar within thirty days of appointment in a prescribed manner.
Section 155 explicitly states:
No individual, who has already been allotted a Director Identification Number under section 154, shall apply for, obtain or possess another Director Identification Number.
Section 156 reads:
Every existing director shall, within one month of the receipt of Director Identification Number from the Central Government, intimate his Director Identification Number to the company or all companies wherein he is a director.
It may be pointed out that Robert Vadra, a promoter director in 12 firms, has only one DIN number and his colleague, Amit Mehta, a director in seven firms, also has only one DIN number. Hence there must be some reason for Priyanka Gandhi seeking and receiving three DIN numbers, and an enquiry into the matter is clearly warranted. While it is fair to state that she would be unaware of the nitty gritty of the law, the excuse cannot extend to the corporate lawyers and chartered accountants who would have assisted her in the matter.
This is a direct embarrassment for the Gandhi family, which cannot be wished away easily. It comes amidst the hottest contested general election since 1977, and comes close on the heels of allegations of a nexus between six new firms floated by Robert Vadra in 2012 and the realty major DLF, after an executive of the Group, Amit Mehta, gave the corporate email id as his email id in the relevant papers submitted to the Government. DLF has since distanced itself from the employee, who is a Director in five of the new firms floated by Robert Vadra.
The Ministry of Corporate Affairs lists Priyanka Gandhi Vadra as a Director, with Active status in her husband’s company Blue Breeze Trading Private Limited, incorporated in November 2007, though she is said to have resigned as per information with the RoC, after getting hints about approaching controversies. She was also a Director in Rahul Gandhi’s Backops Services Ltd, which was closed down following media attention into its projects and income.
An enquiry into Priyanka Vadra possessing three DIN numbers is serious because it raises the possibility of her involvement in businesses that do not reflect on the Ministry’s website.
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April 16, 2014 at 10:21 PM
Satyam Sir, Can we have a new thread for elections 2014?
waisey bhee this thread has more than 400 comments …
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April 17, 2014 at 6:20 AM
will do.
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