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SATYAMSHOT 
September 9, 2013 at 9:00 AM
Is it Cartoon movie ? Where is Rajini in real ??
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September 9, 2013 at 9:23 AM
I believe this is an animated film…with a Rahman soundtrack…
If this succeeds, it could be a fascinating way to extend the life of an aging star — taking advantage of pure “iconicity” when the latter outstrips the aging flesh…
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September 9, 2013 at 9:29 AM
It’s an Avatar-like attempt. Didn’t you notice even the ‘Avatar’ in huge lettering in the trailer?
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March 9, 2014 at 1:58 PM
It hardly matters whether it is cartoonish or real Rajni, his stardom is going to take this movie to great heights. This movie will surely surpass life time collections of Bhoothnanth2 in its first day itself.
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March 15, 2014 at 4:06 AM
KOCHADAIYAAN RELEASING ON APRIL 14, THE CD WILL RELEASE ON APRIL 15. I ONLY USED TO SEE THE PICTURE IN CD.
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September 9, 2013 at 9:01 AM
But must say .. looks very Lavish and Grand, in fact first of its kind graphics where even characters are not original ..
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September 9, 2013 at 1:45 PM
Nice concept. Reminds me of beowulf ( anjlina jolie ). But the effects look very ordinary.
Why can’t we come up with better effects ?
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September 9, 2013 at 1:52 PM
I can’t think of a star who is less in need of being “animated” than Rajinikanth, lol…
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September 9, 2013 at 1:53 PM
Ha! The question is whether the animated Rajni can keep up with the energy of his peak live self!
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September 9, 2013 at 2:34 PM
The Rajni-based jokes this will inspire will be great…
Rumor has it Pixar is closing up shop upon seeing Kochadaiyaan’s first look!
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September 9, 2013 at 2:47 PM
Or better still, all the Hollywood animation biggie studios are in a mad rush to sign a MoU with Red Chillies VFx after seeing the potential in Vfx through Kochadaiyan..
Wait till they see Oberoi’s ugly 400 ft tongue in KRISHITT3..
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September 9, 2013 at 3:01 PM
“If this succeeds, it could be a fascinating way to extend the life of an aging star — taking advantage of pure “iconicity” when the latter outstrips the aging flesh…”
Agree–A brilliant & original thought there qalander
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September 9, 2013 at 8:29 PM
Yes, brilliant thought and who better then Rajni. It’s amazing that even at age 62, HE IS IT for the movies he is in.
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September 9, 2013 at 3:12 PM
Infact this can ideally be applied to lot of ageing ( but still active) stars like bachchan & many others
The difference is that to make the whole cgi paraphernalia feasible, the ‘icon’ should still be able to incite fan/mob hysteria…
Never understood his ‘appeal’ but rajnikant is a rare icon where the ‘appeal’ isn’t diminishing with age (unlike other ageing icons)
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September 9, 2013 at 8:32 PM
True, and I don’t think there is another Rajni in India. I mean which other old actor incite hysteria like Rajni? His status is more then actor/super star/mega star/etc….
I know none of the khans (SRK, Salman, Amir) will have this when they’re over 60.
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September 9, 2013 at 8:33 PM
I wonder if Roshan ever thought about turning Kriss into kids tv cartoon series. I think it can work.
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September 10, 2013 at 1:26 PM
Looks good…reminds me of Beowulf which I liked a lot.
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September 10, 2013 at 1:43 PM
The film itself was fine but this animation style that Zemeckis attempted for a good stretch there and in Polar Express, A Christmas Carol, maybe some others, always felt a little, quite literally, hollow. As Qalandar says in India animation tech might be the means to “extend” the life of a star in some ways, (and certainly that’s a fascinating way to put it) but to my mind it’s a rather soulless way to go about it…at least in this particular style which, rather than trying to capture the spirit of thing is more interested in verisimilitude.
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September 10, 2013 at 2:10 PM
“Capture the spirit of thing is more interested in verisimilitude”
I think this movie is trying to both, let’s see if they can pull it off.
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September 10, 2013 at 2:15 PM
This actually looks good, but I’ll be very surprised if it is a success; I could be wrong, but I have a feeling that the Rajni fan(antics) might even be offended at being presented with this animated avatar instead of the real thing! Actor fan clubs in Tamil Nadu are absurdly worshipful of their stars and very quick to take offence at the smallest perceived slight, so they might just react adversely to this ‘fake’ Rajni.
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September 10, 2013 at 2:55 PM
This might be a possibility if his daughter weren’t directing it.
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September 10, 2013 at 3:23 PM
Even with his daughter at the helm, I don’t think that this will go down very well with the Rajni zealots. And I don’t think that the general audience in TN will react too well to this either; they don’t care how old Rajni looks, they enjoy going to the theatre and whistling and cheering exuberantly when he comes onscreen; I doubt that this stimulated, highly manicured animated version of him will produce the same effect.
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September 10, 2013 at 3:44 PM
Maybe. Personally don’t think this will ruffle any feathers in the least. The trailer is basically an act of genuflection, marrying the mythic icon to a literally mythic context. And my complaint (and here I agree with you) that this looks rather inert and hollow is precisely the logic that Rajini “fanatics” might find acceptable because, well, the devout are fine with an idol of their god, however lifeless it may appear!
Also, I’m sure you meant “simulated”..but only because I don’t think this is particularly stimulating!
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September 10, 2013 at 4:06 PM
Haha, yes, my mistake, that is what I meant! 😛 I suppose we will just have to wait and see, but I don’t think that animating Rajni plays into his larger-than-life-cinematic-god narrative. Featuring an animated version of Rajni is a sort of tacit acknowledgement that he is an aging mortal who is too old/weak to play these roles any longer, and that is obviously not what his fans want to see or hear.
I could be over thinking this too much, but I’ve witnessed some pretty incredible instances of Rajni devotion, and I don’t feel that this move to animate him will be one that results in a blockbuster reception, even if it doesn’t provoke controversy.
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September 10, 2013 at 4:34 PM
“I could be over thinking this too much, but I’ve witnessed some pretty incredible instances of Rajni devotion, and I don’t feel that this move to animate him will be one that results in a blockbuster reception, even if it doesn’t provoke controversy.”
Agree with this. I joked above with Satyam about how Rajni doesn’t really need “animation” because his real life screen history is far more over the top, far more animated, really, than any amount of CGI can conjure. So the animation in a way is redundant. Whether the fan groups and such will make the leap from redundant to insulting is something we’ll have to see. Certainly don’t doubt and can’t underestimate their zeal!
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September 10, 2013 at 11:19 PM
Was having a heated Bachchan v/s Rajni argument with a Tamilian girl last evening, who has stayed in Tamil Nadu for a major part of her life. Well brought up and educated, and took offense when I compared Rajni to Bachchan, saying that the Tamil megastar just cannot be compared to anyone, and that Bachchan would take light years to equal Rajni. I believe people just misunderstand this man’s mania. He might have limited appeal while taking the entire country into consideration but wonder if Bachchan did exude such appeal even at his peak.
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September 11, 2013 at 1:25 AM
Tony:
You need to understand that there is a WORLD of difference between Tamil and Hi-Fi. Tamil, Telugu, and Kannada film industries are inter-linked and conjoined in the anti-Hindi; anti-‘North’ politics; the order of difficulty in descending order being Tamil, then Kannada, and then Telgu. I am not saying this as a ‘judgement’ but as a matter of actual happenings on ground.
My father worked in a bank and every 2-3 years he used to be transferred out of state. In one such stint, I was forced to stay in Madras during the late’80s. I do not know how knowledgeable or whether I had any folding on my brain (i know I had some drawing on my balls but that’s it!!) but realized that in Tamil Nad, if you don’t speak Tamil, you are screwed. You are going to be raped by the rickshaw guy, by the vegetable vendor, by the ironing guy, by the maid-servant,and what have you. Under such circumstances, as an ‘outsider’, I happened to watch GERAFTAR in a Madras theater. And I was utterly shocked to see that a gifted actor like AB was completely ignored, while Hassan and Kanth were heralded and wolf-whistled as though they were the next heirs of Chola dynasty who would take on some imaginary ‘northern’ tyrannies.
So please tell that lady friend of yours to shut her pie hole and go back and analyze the historicity of anti-Hindi agitation in TN. The ‘abhishekam’ type of fanaticism hardly exists in Hi-fi. Stalwarts like Dilip Kumar and AB and SRK have experienced this. The Hi-fi industry’s fans are far more cruel and ‘detached’ when it comes to expanding their idols’ horizons. I have watched MRITYUDATTA in Maratha Mandir in Bombay with 13 people on its 5th day -with all of them cursing.
The south-style fanaticism has hardly anything to do with an actor’s actual talent; it just has to do with sloganeering. The sooner you learn it, the better for you.
Here’s another example. Baradwaj Rangan wrote a piece when he attended the President’s function to receive the National award for Best Critic. He ALSO wrote in his piece how ‘thrilled’ he was to be seated in the same circle as AB who was there to receive best actor award for PAA. A couple of supposedly educated ‘commentators’ — you know, they guys who quote Goddard or Felline at the drop of Hanes’ underwear – wrote and expressed their displeasure for BR speaking of AB in ‘glowing’ and fawning terms. They said, and I paraphrase – who is this Amitabh Vamitabh? Don’t ‘sell’ yourself speaking of ‘Northis’ like AB; us Tamilians have grown up only on Kamal and ‘Rajini’ – that’s the b- all and end-all.’ This statement is in 2010; can you imagine what happened in ’80s?
Another example as to why comparing Amitabh to RajniKanth or Hassan is as good as comparing Indian democracy to Pakistan’s – When Amitabh was given the Padma Vibhushan (forgive me if the award is wrong; it was > than Padma Bhusan for sure) post KBC; the following information was leaked – he was actually given the award for not some philanthropic exercise but for the fact that he achieved something that NONE of the governments or incentives or whatever achieved in 50 years – that of ‘introducing’ and ‘popularizing’ Hindi in the Tamil belt!! In 60 years of India’s independence, KBC heralded by AB was the only program that could entice Tamilians – from liberals to Kattarwadis to rest their asses on a chair and watch a guy speaking the most grammatically correct punctuated Hindi from 9 to 10 pm!!
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September 11, 2013 at 2:21 AM
As usual fearless and forthright. I will say frog in the well mentality. Before Rajni and Kamal, it used to be Shivaji and MGR, not Gemini, the gentle and polished actor.
My cousin who was born, brought up and educated in Chennai said that CE and MC have copied Mumbai Express and Vishwaroopam! He used to meet both Hasan and Rajni with his college friends and they are that accessible to the common Junta. I dont blame them. Culturally most of them are loud in emotions and behaviour just like punjabis. Film makers like Balachander and Mani have brought sensitivity and subtelty to tamil cinema. Let us hear what Satyam and GF say in this regard.
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September 11, 2013 at 11:20 AM
I think I was a bit harsh there. I apologize Tony and anyone if you feel it’s out of line.
My whole point is that it is really not wise to compare ANY south Indian actor (except maybe Mammotty and Mohan Lal) to the popularity of actors in Hi-fi; including AB. There is a solid link running through fan clubs, language issues politics, and culture and this link is almost non-existent in Hi-fi. South Indian actors will ALWAYS have greater fan following and not everything is a true reflection of an artist’s merit. It has a lot to do with his or her cultural standing in THAT state. In the Kannada film industry, one of the main feathers in Dr. Rajkumar’s hat remains the fact that he chose not to act in Hindi films even when there were offers! And this is endorsed by his many fan clubs in South Karnataka towns and in Bangalore.
AB’s cultural good faith was of course put into fine use when he stood for elections in Allahabad and literally vanquished Bahuguna – that too with zero track record of achievement in politics!!
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September 11, 2013 at 12:28 PM
I think people have a great misunderstanding on some of these scores. You’ve pointed out some of the important things. It’s true that there’s often been a linkage between the political and the cinematic, especially of course in Tamil cinema, which creates this entire structure of political mobilization for a movie star (fan clubs and the rest) and which in turn also enables this cult frenzy. Having said that one must separate authentic greats (however one might judge them) like MGR or Rajni from some of the pretenders today who try to manufacture hysteria with every release. And so you get the pretend youtube videos, the guys pouring milk on the posters, dancing outside the theaters, braying in them and so on. All of this really tries to fake the Rajni moment (in the contemporary sense) by pushing the same buttons each and every time.
Having said that Hindi audiences who suddenly discovered Rajni with Sivaji, no thanks to a media campaign that used him as the anti-bachchan (to Rajni’s own horror!), seem to completely miss the point with this comparison. A great star has many avatars, not all of which are measurable at the box office. Alternatively a star who has to keep passing these box office tests even very late in the game is not necessarily as invincible as he might appear to be. How does one square this circle? Well, Bachchan was exactly that sort of star for many years, a fact that could be witnessed with many of his initials and certainly something like the Hum hysteria even relatively late when he was clearly at the ‘end’ of his peak career. But even at his peak his reception in Hindi cinema just wasn’t like that of MGR’s or Rajnikant’s for reasons of cultural difference and some of the precise factors both of us have talked about. However within Hindi cinema he was like Rajni to everyone before or since. Or more precisely and specially in his one man industry stage he got the closest to becoming such a star for his audience and industry.
Now in a very measurable box office sense Bachchan’s box office record between roughly 1973 and 1986 (when he retired for two years) is untouched by the career of any other star in any industry I am aware of. This is not just about peak longevity but also the degree of success and the staggering profitability connected with even his failures. Of course in a larger longevity sense MGR lasted decades. But no 13 years in that run can match this Bachchan graph. Rajnikant himself cannot for any such period. One of the reasons Kamal fans often get into this specious claims when they compare the two. Rajni was clearly special, his success for extraordinary, he was clearly the MGR of his age but he could not overwhelm the competition as totally. In other words there was never a one-man industry in Tamil cinema. But the argument doesn’t end here. Because if one is getting into longevity one always has to account for the other unique phenomenon of Indian cinema which to my mind is the more special case along with Bachchan’s — that of Kerala’s two great Ms. Here you have two guys who for decades almost literally were the industry and who whether at their peak stages or not were still as a pair overwhelmingly dominant for the longest time and to the the extent that even with important stars since (in the box office sense) the center of gravity kept being defined by them and even this late in their respective histories it is not easy to define a post-Mammootty/Mohanlal Malayalam cinema. This is not to diminish Rajnikant who’s clearly one of a kind but his model is still not as remarkable to my mind as the one exhibited by these other two I’ve discussed.
However something interesting happens with Rajni. Here too the Kamal fans with their strange positions attest to this though not in the ways they think. Throughout the 80s Rajni was a massive star but towards the end of this decade or somewhat earlier he started being translated into this cult figure. Then beyond the early 90s he became a relatively rare star who didn’t appear that often on screen. Age caught up with him much sooner in certain ways. And what we’ve been seeing ever since is this translation from a great bread and butter star into this hyper-event that come around once in a few years. It’s a religious structure where everyone simply has to show up. The grosses well exceed that of anyone else in the right film (it helps to have Shankar at the helm!), so on and so forth.
All of this however isn’t a sign of strength, at least not the way Hindi viewers and doubtless many Tamil ones understand this. Because Rajni has reinvented himself as this greatest of all spectacles. Which definitionally can only come about once in a while. He couldn’t sustain this if he decided to be any more regular. It is always an over-hyped, super-glitzed production in every sense masquerading as an event. The authentic Rajni event lies in the past. This is the interest he’s collecting on his deep cultural capital. Only a great star can even be in such a position.
On the other hand Bachchan who also needed reinvention around the same time took a very different path. No matter how much I might criticize many of his choices or his relative lack of imagination (let alone Kamal-like acumen) in ensuring better projects for himself (it must be said that the truly great stars never have this.. success comes to them a bit too ‘naturally’.. this happens even at a smaller level.. so SRK was the iconic star or his age, whatever level of success he enjoyed.. Aamir clearly wasn’t and he had to construct this alternate path for himself.. he could even overtake SRK at some point doing so because SRK was never Bachchan or Rajni or any such thing even in the remotest sense..) it must be said that between the state of the industry at the time and a greater logic where Bachchan was always seen as a great actor as well (again only with or only with the two Ms in Kerala do you have this twinning of the great star and the great actor.. in Tamil cinema there’s always been a division of labor in this sense.. MGr/Sivaji, then Rajni/Kamal.. though I think Rajni is far more effective as an actor than MGR was ever capable of) and so with newer talents there was always this temptation to also give him worthwhile parts. In a sense Bachchan needed the 70s industry for reinvention where there would have been a marriage of his charisma and his performance skills. However that industry had expired long ago by that point and so that tension between the fine actor and the great superstar was never quite resolved, either within the industry or in Bachchan’s own mind. At some point Bachchan even gave up on it and decided he would be something less than a great star and he proceeded to take up lots of questionable parts. Here too the reasons for his failure are precisely counter-intuitive. He always had enough cultural capital to transcend his literal box office failures but the same history was potent enough to prevent him from being accepted in just any film or doing just anything. Even new Indian audiences couldn’t accept this because his films have always remained current. However when he did KBC or when he led the field with the most massive range of endorsements in every sense, all of these were a measure of is continuing relevance much as he very easily eased himself into the role of new India’s greatest cultural icon (note how the constant efforts by SRK fans to deconstruct him or SRK himself to emulate him reveals that most basic of anxieties — bachchan remains the horizon). So much as Rajni’s great success in the current age is counter-intutively evidence of a certain essential weakness at this point in time (this entire discourse is brilliantly configured in Shankar’s film where the human Rajni is simply a weak, emasculated character while the actual charismatic star of the film is in fact a machine!) Bachchan’s failures on the other hand offer similar evidence of the opposite or in another direction. Again it would be impossible to find another star who could as easily survive a mixed or indifferent box office track record for as long as Bachchan has. Once again the anti-Bachchan partisans have it exactly the wrong way. When they talk about what his great hits are in x years leaving aside the fact that they present a very one-sided and even dishonest version of the story they don’t realize that even if taken at face value their claims lead one to exactly the opposite result. Only the VERY greatest star could so sever the link between himself and the box office! Here even the fans who argue for this or that film miss the point. He is Bachchan because after being the greatest box office force he could survive even a very different kind of box office fate without becoming any less vital in a larger cultural sense (again attested to by the fact that from Aditya Chopra to Prakash Jha there has been this constant need to find space for him or ‘account’ for him).
So yes there are a lot of facile comparisons made. But the people making them usually don’t understand (or know) anything about either Bachchan or Rajni, let alone anyone else. I don’t include TonyMontana in this group by any means. He’s one of the good guys here.
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September 11, 2013 at 12:58 PM
“The authentic Rajni event lies in the past. This is the interest he’s collecting on his deep cultural capital. ”
This is extremely convincing and well-stated. The whole comment here is very useful as a succinct education on a number of histories.
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September 11, 2013 at 1:08 PM
and I meant to add this in the original comment but Bachchan too is collecting interest in the same way. Just in a different sense. In each case the ‘idea’ of Bachchan or Rajni transcends any individual achievement that either one is capable of. Which doesn’t of course mean they cannot do good work, just that the meaning of the latter can only be located within this larger history. Or in different words it is valuable only to the extent it can serve that history. It cannot really survive on its own. When both stars were at their respective peaks no matter how much they functioned as icons or as brand-names each film had to be completely accessible on its own. The audience had to re-enter the mythology all over again with each new release. Their participation in this sense was much more active. Today each is a monument. They’ve taken different paths but the structure is very comparable. Either way one people celebrate them as cultural monuments. And this is even natural because so many years after those foundation moments when the world is so different in every other sense those archives retain their potency but the star himself cannot keep adding to those legacies in the very same way. This late age moment of transcendence highlights the authentic greatness of the star but is also in another sense the moment of greatest passivity for the same. The star is not really in control in any meaningful way once this point is reached. Oddly enough both of these stars get this but in very different ways. Rajni is quite eager to present his other face to the audience where he’s this old, bald guy who doesn’t maintain even the minimal conceit of being a star and so when he appears on screen he quite literally puts on a face and guise. Even that minimal illusion is stripped away (here again Shankar’s Enthiran is so astute.. Rajni has to become this machine on screen that replicates his signature). Bachchan on the other hand tries to make up for this loss with this frenzy of activity in all sorts of areas and/or by his constant insistence that he is simply not a great star nor has he ever been one!
And neither trajectory is surprising. Rajni was never a Kamal-like ‘great’ actor and so he could only participate in this mechanical repetition associated with his signature. With Bachchan no matter how great the star the equally great actor couldn’t be forsaken. And hence he was pulled in many different directions once the obvious box office path faded. Here it should be noted, and something I’ve always maintained, that the one man industry of the 80s also came about by sacrificing the finer actor of the 70s. Which is not to say that he still couldn’t create miracles but these were more of the order of stardom and the ability to finely hone those registers of performance most consonant with that epic universe. These achievements were by no means ordinary even by his lofty standards but these were something other than those awe-inspiring portrayals of the 70s and across a variety of works. To get back to the original point and put simply Bachchan could never have become the star who only tried Lal Badhshah or what have you. Because there would always have been enough talents wishing him to do something interesting. No one ever approached Rajni with the same aspirations!
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September 11, 2013 at 1:22 PM
“again attested to by the fact that from Aditya Chopra to Prakash Jha there has been this constant need to find space for him or ‘account’ for him”
Not true about Aditya Chopra. Apparently AB asked Yash Chopra for work and Yash Chopra gave him Mohabbatein. Besides that AB has only been in YRF’s Bunty Aur Babli, Veer Zaara and Jhoom Barabar Jhoom. VZ was because of yash chopra and the other two movies had Abhishek in them
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September 11, 2013 at 2:33 PM
actually Aditya Chopra is on record saying that he wanted to make Mohabbatein before DLLJ but did the latter first as he felt he needed more experience. Johar is a Kabhi Kabhie-obsessed guy if ever there was one. Sure enough the moment he had KKHH behind him he did K3G. On Bachchan’s comment don’t take everything he says so seriously.
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September 11, 2013 at 3:01 PM
He did want to make Mohabbatein before Ddlj but did he want to cast Srk and Amitabh Bachchan for it back then? Highly doubt it. Then again your guess is as good as mine because we don’t know what he was thinking 20 years ago. Agree About kjo, he said in the making of k3g I think that he wanted to make it like kabhi kabhi..which is why half the title is from KK!
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September 11, 2013 at 4:01 PM
Aditya chopra said clearly he wanted Mohabbatein (with Bachchan) first. do you think he was thinking of Anupam Kher?! actually it would be pretty unusual for someone who grew up in the age of Bachchan as Johar and Aditya chopra and so many others did not to wish to work with him. Farah Khan too initially planned Happy New year with Bachchan and SRK. This script has seen many rewritings. of course SRK himself ended up with Don as part of his ‘I am the king’ pitch. The list of important directors who one way or the other have been in Bachchan’s orbit is a rather long one (Farhan Akhtar for example said he loved the cool Bachchan of Dostana and so on) and the films speak for themselves. However here what is key is that the lynchpins of the SRK universe themselves turned to Bachchan the first moment they could! You could play a game of musical chairs and have Bachchan as the constant and check out how many contemporary stars acted with him. It’s just about everyone with the exception of Aamir. And I do hope they come together for something important. SRK is actually the record holder when it comes to doing films with father or son or both!
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September 11, 2013 at 4:12 PM
Your commentary on Rajni was fascinating to read. On Mohabbatein, AB has said in many interviews that before Mohabbatein he did not any roles and he wanted work and approached Yash Chopra. Thats how he got the part. This also ties with the fact that ABCL had left him in a precarious position after the flops etc. I dont see why we cannot believe AB himself saying that. This also matches with Yashji saying something on a similar lines in an interview.
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September 11, 2013 at 7:09 PM
Yes I know, I’ve heard him say that too. I;ve also heard him say he feels dejected that he wasn’t able to work with bright young talents like Varun Dhawan. In any case this debate on whether he had roles other than Mohabbatein or not hardly has anything to do with the point under discussion (about whether Aditya Chopra wanted to do Mohabbetein first or not). Of course the idea that Bachchan had absolutely no work was always a ridiculous one but yeah he kept peddling it. Again he says a lot of other rather remarkable things about his career as well and not just the contemporary one.
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September 11, 2013 at 4:36 PM
Akshay Kumar has done 6 movies with Amitabh Bachchan-
Ek Rishtaa, Aankhen, Waqt, Family, Khakee,and Ab Tumhare Hawale Watan Saathiyo.
SRK has done 5-Mohabbatein, K3g, V-Z, KANK, and a special appearance in Paheli.
And on Mohabbatein, Krish summed it up pretty well. And there was not dearth of actors to choose from to play the principal. It could have easily been Amrish Puri which would have worked as well as there would be another SRK-Amrish Puri face off after DDLJ
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September 11, 2013 at 7:13 PM
My sense is that Aditya Chopra wouldn’t have considered working with Amrish Puri-SRK a great challenge. Just guessing based on the fact that he then made DDLJ..
of course I have heard him talk about Bachchan here so the discussion is pretty pointless.
I forgot about Akshay. But I also talked about both Bachchans and hence you must include HNY as well. On the other hand Akshay is still ahead because there’s Haan Maine Bhi Pyar Kiya! Then again if one is including Paheli perhaps one should also talk about SRK in Bhootnath. And so we have a tie!
In fairness though Akshay and Bachchan both have full-fledged roles in all the films they’ve done together.
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September 11, 2013 at 4:39 PM
And Farhan Akhtar’s Don was first offered to Akshay Kumar btw.
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September 11, 2013 at 7:15 PM
Don’t think that’s true. Akshay doesn’t sound like Farhan Akhtar’s kind of hero. He might have been considered at some stage though in every interview I’ve come across Akhtar has only mentioned Hrithik as someone he was interested in for the film.
By the way you’re tormenting yourself.. it’s rather late in the day to try and decouple SRK from Bachchan for all the reasons I’ve pointed out!
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September 11, 2013 at 5:27 PM
SRK-Amitabh were also together in bhootnath.
Agree on anybody doing the amitabh role in mohabbatain. Actually amitabh started the trend of this big time actor/star doing roles which in days past were done by the likes of mehmood, j om prakash, etc… That is when I and for larger part the audience lost interest in bachhan.
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September 11, 2013 at 7:17 PM
“ctually amitabh started the trend of this big time actor/star doing roles which in days past were done by the likes of mehmood, j om prakash, etc”
Not for the first time you simply don’t know what you’re talking about..
Incidentally some pictures on Bachchan’s blog today from his meeting with David Cameron. Mehmood probably popularized this too..
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September 11, 2013 at 7:57 PM
“I forgot about Akshay. But I also talked about both Bachchans and hence you must include HNY as well. On the other hand Akshay is still ahead because there’s Haan Maine Bhi Pyar Kiya! Then again if one is including Paheli perhaps one should also talk about SRK in Bhootnath. And so we have a tie!”
A tie if you include Abhishek and special appearances. So much for “record holder”!
And when did you hear Aditya Chopra talk about Bachchan? The guy never gives interviews/is invisible to the public eye.
I stand corrected on Don, Akshay Kumar was offered Arjun Rampal’s role, not Don’s.
And LOL about Amitabh Bachchan meeting the Britain’s PM. He also wrote “he had heard and knew about me…through the Nanny to his child”.
Cameron made references to SRK 3 years ago..
http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/at-infosys-cameron-refers-to-sachin-srk-40439
The PM of Russia met SRK on the sets of Ra.1 at YRF studios 2 years ago and he’s met the Malaysian PM.
@Z
He started his career playing second fiddle to Rajesh Khanna and Dharmendra so not that surprising…
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September 11, 2013 at 8:08 PM
Should we go into how almost all of Bachchan’s hits/sh/bb are multistarrers?
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September 11, 2013 at 9:17 PM
not everyone can have solos like KKHH, KA, Mohabbatein. K3G, KHNH, Deewana, Darr.. I’m probably forgetting some though there aren’t all that many hits to count.. HNY on the way now.. interestingly with the director who claimed with OSO she would get the crowds in with that 33 star song! You guys should incidentally have stopped SRK from remaking Don and then making a sequel to it. He’s really let you down.
Grow up.. it ain’t that tough
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September 11, 2013 at 8:49 PM
The same ole Anti-Bachchan talking points from SRK fans: All his hits were multi-starrers, his last decade has been spent playing character roles whereas Dilip Kumar only played pivotal roles, etc etc.
SRK fans had been slapped around for 5 yrs, seeing actor after actor overtaking their boy’s perceived records. Bolti bund ho chuki thi becharon ki. All their blowhard crap had stopped with a grim dose of reality. Now that they got some ground with CE, they are back to the same ole crap. They have not learnt a bit. Woh kehte hain na, kutey ki dum…
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September 11, 2013 at 9:13 PM
well said! Nothing more one could add to this!
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September 11, 2013 at 9:46 PM
“The same ole Anti-Bachchan talking points from SRK fans”
All fans use the same ole talking points when talking anti against another star, not just Srk fans. And lol about that 5 year thing. Aamir fans had nothing to talk about before Ghajini except Lagaan. Salman khan fans were non existent before Dabangg/Wanted. You either are ignorant about that, consciously omitting that fact, or haven’t been online long enough to know that
“not everyone can have solos like KKHH, KA, Mohabbatein. K3G, KHNH, Deewana, Darr.. I’m probably forgetting some though there aren’t all that many hits to count.. HNY on the way now.. interestingly with the director who claimed with OSO she would get the crowds in with that 33 star song! You guys should incidentally have stopped SRK from remaking Don and then making a sequel to it. He’s really let you down.
Grow up.. it ain’t that tough”
Nope thats it for multistarrers.That’s a total of 7. He has 27 total hits/superhits/bb/atbb. It’s a shame you can’t above 7.
Not everyone can have solos like Sholay, Anand, Naseeb, AAA, MKS, Shakti, Hum, Shaan..whoops wait that’s 8. I won’t go higher since anything higher than 7 is too much for you.
interestingly with the director who claimed with OSO she would get the crowds in with that 33 star song!
Just like how Desai in Naseeb had all the stars in the John Johnny song?
“Grow up.. it ain’t that tough”
You should practice what you preach.
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September 11, 2013 at 10:07 PM
@Nykavi.. what abt Bachchan fans that don’t give SRK his due. Here is an actor whose film from 18 years ago is still running along with his current film. Is there an equivalent event in the history of hindi cinema? SRK fans are not creating a legend out of vaccum. SRK is a true icon, he creates magic on screen, there is noone else like him.
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September 11, 2013 at 10:13 PM
“Just like how Desai in Naseeb had all the stars in the John Johnny song?”
Exactly! SRK could never stop himself from copying BigB’s iconic movies from the 70s.
“Not everyone can have solos like Sholay, Anand, Naseeb, AAA, MKS, Shakti, Hum, Shaan”
Yes, Vinod Khanna, Shatrughan Sinha, Govinda (at his lowest career point during Hum), Shashi/Rishi Kapoor were big megastars who elevated the collections of said movies. Except for Sholay, which had a genuine star in Dharmendra, none of the above movies can be called a multi-starrer. Simply because non of those ‘stars’ could stand on their own two feet when it came to the BO. Its like saying Zayed Khan made MHN a multi-starrer. or that Marathi dude made OSO a multi-starrer. You guys should first go study BO of all those ‘stars’ before commenting. If a movie calls for 3 brothers as characters, off course they would need to cast some warm body in the role of the other 2. Koi kadu-baingan ko to nahi cast kartey they?
Why is it that Dharmendra and Rajesh never worked with Amitabh beyond 2 films each? Cause they did not want to play second fiddle to Amitabh in any of those so-called multistarrer movies.
PS- I excluded Anand, cause it was before Zanjeer. And Shakti is a 2starrer Father-Son saga, not multi-starrer in any shape or form. The jury is still out on that one.
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September 11, 2013 at 11:07 PM
@Prasand You’re not going to get a response because there is no valid response to that, NyKavi is just going to ignore that like how he/she ignored my point about fans of all using the same points when talking anti about another star.
“Just like how Desai in Naseeb had all the stars in the John Johnny song?”
Exactly! SRK could never stop himself from copying BigB’s iconic movies from the 70s.
“Not everyone can have solos like Sholay, Anand, Naseeb, AAA, MKS, Shakti, Hum, Shaan”
Yes, Vinod Khanna, Shatrughan Sinha, Govinda (at his lowest career point during Hum), Shashi/Rishi Kapoor were big megastars who elevated the collections of said movies. Except for Sholay, which had a genuine star in Dharmendra, none of the above movies can be called a multi-starrer. Simply because non of those ‘stars’ could stand on their own two feet when it came to the BO. Its like saying Zayed Khan made MHN a multi-starrer. or that Marathi dude made OSO a multi-starrer. You guys should first go study BO of all those ‘stars’ before commenting. If a movie calls for 3 brothers as characters, off course they would need to cast some warm body in the role of the other 2. Koi kadu-baingan ko to nahi cast kartey they?
Why is it that Dharmendra and Rajesh never worked with Amitabh beyond 2 films each? Cause they did not want to play second fiddle to Amitabh in any of those so-called multistarrer movies.
PS- I excluded Anand, cause it was before Zanjeer. And Shakti is a 2starrer Father-Son saga, not multi-starrer in any shape or form. The jury is still out on that one.”
Deewana, Darr, KA, KKHH, Mohabbatein, K3G, KHNH are SRK’s multistarrers.
Then I can exclude Deewana and Darr since that’s before DDLJ. And then exclude KA and K3G since those movies “called for brothers as characters”. So what’s left is Mohabattein and KKHH.
Vinod Khanna and Rishi Kapoor weren’t big stars? You;re comaring Zayed Khan and Shreyas Talpalde to Rishi Kapoor and VK? And you tell me to study BO of those stars! There is nothing to study for BO of Zayed Khan, his only hit in his entire career is MHN. Compare that to Rishi Kapoor! This is one of the most ridiculous things I have ever heard.
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September 11, 2013 at 11:10 PM
“Aamir fans had nothing to talk about before Ghajini except Lagaan. Salman khan fans were non existent before Dabangg/Wanted”
Yes, MPK/HAHK/KA/RH/Dil/QSQT/JJWS and other Sallu/Aamir movies were all fictions of imagination, that got produced in some alternate universe. Seriously, get a grip dude. Theek hai, tumhare chahetey ne CE ko 200crs cross kara liya. Duniya khatm nahi hui hai mere bhai. Thoda sa relax karo, itna uchko-puchko mat. CE has not touched some pinnacle of BO. Abhi kahaani aagey bhi badegi. Tanik dheeraj rakho mere laal.
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September 11, 2013 at 11:22 PM
Yes, I was coming to you Prasad. You talk about DDLJ running in Maratha Mandir as if its generating crores of collections every year. Pachees rupai ki balcony ticket bikti hai, ie not even the price of a popcorn in a multiplex. You talk about it as if its “Phantom of the Opera” selling $100 tickets on Broadway. Bees-pachees kabootar hote hain wahaan pur. And surprisingly, in a weird reflection of what goes on in Mumbai, 2 of those Mumbai rapists went to see it after their misdeed on that very same day!! Woh aapki audience hai.
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September 11, 2013 at 11:59 PM
Yes, MPK/HAHK/KA/RH/Dil/QSQT/JJWS and other Sallu/Aamir movies were all fictions of imagination, that got produced in some alternate universe. Seriously, get a grip dude. Theek hai, tumhare chahetey ne CE ko 200crs cross kara liya. Duniya khatm nahi hui hai mere bhai. Thoda sa relax karo, itna uchko-puchko mat. CE has not touched some pinnacle of BO. Abhi kahaani aagey bhi badegi. Tanik dheeraj rakho mere laal.
The story is never finished, after D3 and K3 there’s Mental, HNY, PK, Bang Bang, etc. You can only talk about what has already happened when arguing for or against something, the rest is just useless speculation.
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September 12, 2013 at 8:40 AM
Ajay Devgan would be the actor AB acted along with the most, along with Dutt.
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September 11, 2013 at 11:29 PM
And surprisingly, in a weird reflection of what goes on in Mumbai, 2 of those Mumbai rapists went to see it after their misdeed on that very same day!! Woh aapki audience hai
Where did you get all the information about kabootars and rapists?
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September 11, 2013 at 11:34 PM
Google kijiye, bahut kaam ki cheez hai.
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September 12, 2013 at 5:11 AM
>2 of those Mumbai rapists went to see it after their misdeed on that very same day!! Woh aapki audience hai.
Aaaaaand that’s the only film they have ever seen? I googled to find out, but didn’t find anything. So perhaps SRK and DDLJ is the only one.
I also googled to find out if they saw the film ‘before’ committing the crime too. Because this film brings out the wild demon in men. But didn’t find anything.
Perhaps I’ll make some entries about this and mention these as facts for other poor souls searching for more info about the matter.
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September 12, 2013 at 5:09 PM
Oldji
All I pointed out was a trivia related to DDLJ at Maratha Mandir. However, this trivia does inform us that with its really affordable ticket prices (Rs 25 for balcony), DDLJ at MM is accessible to a class of people who otherwise could not even dream of going to a theatre. DDLJ@MM is that first experience for a class of people who cannot experience the opulence of cinema at today;s prices. It wont be surprising if MM is exempt from entertainment tax, and other expense burdens to carry on this effort. Otherwise, it is simply not feasible to be operating this at Rs 25 pricepoints. Hats off to YRF for doing this charity work. They obviously do not make money out of this.
But SRK partisans hype this up to be some sort of money spinning extravaganza. 900 weeks of DDLJ@MM!! Akin to the run of “Phantom of the Opera” on Broadway. In fact, It is analogous to the village kinetoscope in a bygone era, where kids would pay 10-20 paise to see 5 mins of rolling film through peepholes. YRF has created this introduction to cinema device for laymen who cannot afford it. Maybe a stray richer patron wud be strolling in to catch DDLJ for the umpteenth time. Its pretty obvious that people from Bandra wud not be wanting to sit next to someone from Dharavi in the Box.
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September 12, 2013 at 5:38 PM
Yashraj are essentially making this run in the first place. For the records. Even with affordable ticket prices the film couldn’t have done this sort of thing and I actually know for a fact that it’s being run this way.
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September 12, 2013 at 5:29 PM
lol.
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September 12, 2013 at 5:30 PM
What a nickname you chose, Nykavi? ROFL.
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September 12, 2013 at 5:46 PM
Wonder if these folks go into the cinema to watch Ddlj or..
Ps: c’mon ‘oldji’–c’mon tell em how ‘old’ are yu? Lol
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September 13, 2013 at 10:17 AM
@NyKavi
Sorry to deflate your young ego, but I don’t find it an insult to be calle ‘Old’. Learn from Rajen how to insult. He’s been hounding my comments with insulting comments.
If your kuchipudi learning daughter had made such a remark I would have to overlook it, but her father taking this path amazes me. I pity her.
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September 13, 2013 at 10:40 AM
“Sorry to deflate your young ego, but I don’t find it an insult to be calle ‘Old’.”
and you absolutely shouldn’t. Old is indeed often gold and the new is often the glitter that isn’t gold. Of course I like to think of people more usefully as being ‘older’ or ‘younger’ but that might be the Plato student in me!
Having said that not sure if Nykavi was making fun of ‘old’. I looked at the comments just now. I could have missed something though. But in any case hope the real gold keeps visiting..
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September 13, 2013 at 11:06 AM
OldGold, I sincerely apologize if you felt I was making fun of the “old” in OldGold. Really feel bad that you took my address in that sense. I shudve referenced you as OldGoldji, instead of Oldji. In fact, I would not even have suffixed “ji” had I wanted to insult, because I am sure you know that “ji” is a form of respect. I am not a hip youngster either, agar aap ki taraf ek unglee uthata, to teen ungliyan mujhko hi point karti. Hope you forgive.
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September 13, 2013 at 11:10 AM
And now having read Sanju/Apex comments following mine, mujhko un dono ke kaan marodne chahiye. Such Mischiefmakers! Bacho, itni sharaarat mat kiya karo.
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September 11, 2013 at 11:27 AM
“My cousin who was born, brought up and educated in Chennai said that CE and MC have copied Mumbai Express and Vishwaroopam”– haha
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September 11, 2013 at 12:48 PM
He is diehard a Kamal hasan fan(atic). For him hindi stars are good for nothing. It is not only him. Almost all of people south of Vindhyas dont accept bollywood and its stars wholeheartedly. And they have their own cultural thing and their pride. The people who migrate make these hindi films hit.
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September 11, 2013 at 1:39 PM
I don’t see why people from the South should feel duty-bound to appreciate Bollywood or else be accused of parochialism; it might be the ‘national’ cinema, but contemporary, commercial Bollywood primarily portrays the cultures of Punjabi and the northern heartlands, and ofcourse, Mumbai.
Considering that Bollywood prides itself on depicting South Indians in the most ignorant and stereotypical fashion possible, is this really any surprise that many South-Indians prefer Tamil/ Telugu/ Kannada/ Malayalam cinema?!
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September 11, 2013 at 1:45 PM
^ This comment isn’t directed at Sanjana, I’m just voicing my opinion against the generally prevailing idea that South Indians alone are insular in their cultural tastes. This is by no means a uniquely South Indian trait; North Indians are just as ignorant/ contemptuous of South Indian culture!
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September 11, 2013 at 2:26 PM
I support you. Why bollywood think that they are superior? This is what irks south indians.
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September 11, 2013 at 3:09 PM
That’s India’s problem as a whole, we discriminate against our own people. I always felt India is more like the European Union in the sense that we’re just a ton of different (linguistically, culturally) states using the same currency
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September 11, 2013 at 7:22 PM
I have been on both the sides and thus I know what is what. I watch mostly bollywood movies nowadays and only hindi serials and so I become defensive about them. But my folks out there are not amused by my newfound love for hindi and we have both cool and heated arguments. At the end I cant but empathise with some of their points. I see them enjoying the respective regional films for those true to the soil dialogues, the ambience and other such things. Though for me those dialogues and other things sound rather coarse, unpolished and cringeworthy. And also over the top performances. But the young generations are now not shy of appreciating the good things and not overtly regionalistic.
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September 11, 2013 at 6:08 PM
Firstly, this is not about any sort of divide. I just wrote about the fact that people who do not speak Tamil face heck of an inconvenience when in Madras or anywhere in TN. I was equally pissed off when the Maharashtra govt decided to have bus numbers and destinations in Marathi on the head of the bus. Finally, they realized their folly and decided to write them in English but on the boarding side of BEST buses. It is silly, stupid, and dumb when states resort to such linguistic chauvinism. I cannot start haggling with the cycle-rickshaw guy in front of Madras Central in English can I now? The lungi-bhangda tensions have been existing ever since the agitation of ’40s and will continue to in the future – though it has obviously mellowed down a lot. But there is insularity from TN and there is arrogance from the North. And if Hi-fi considers itself superior, then there is no thought as dumb as this floating around in some minds. Even during the ’80s, Tamil films were way ahead from the Bombay guys in the overall aspect of movie-making. It was fine folks like Balachander then,and today, it is the directors of films like Paruthiveeran or Angadi Theru.
Secondly, thanks Satyam for that wonderful write-up on the dynamics of Rajnikanth fandom and AB’s. However, I still feel that the scale of Bachchan’s popularity pan-India is definitely lesser than that of Rajnikanth in TN. He hardly matters beyond TN – maybe in Japan (and I have yet to understand what the electronic geeks of Japan saw in Muthu). He has the advantage that he can partake in an anti-Karnataka protest regarding Cauvery waters, and even KH fans will unite with fans from Rajni film clubs and explode the numbers!
And Satyam says Tony is a good guy. I hope this is not mutually exclusive. Otherwise it would make me..
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September 11, 2013 at 7:17 PM
LOL, on the last bit! Not mutually exclusive at all!
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March 9, 2014 at 8:24 AM
theatrical promo .. [added to post]
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March 9, 2014 at 8:25 AM
Wish someone make with young bachchan as well 🙂
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March 9, 2014 at 3:22 PM
I don’t get what the difference between this and animation is. To me it just looks like a very detailed animation movie…
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March 10, 2014 at 2:22 PM
This is a combination of motion capture and animation, not purely animation. 🙂
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March 9, 2014 at 6:31 PM
Very poor vfx. Very poor. Looks like a PS2 video game. The attempt at motion capture seems half-baked, same with animation. The 3D models resemble the lead actors (thankfully), but there’s very little detail there. For the type of animation they were going for, they needed their models to be a lot more detailed and their animation to be way more fluid. Hopefully, the story is decent. That’d be my only incentive to watch this movie now.
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March 13, 2014 at 9:53 PM
super-song by shreya / ARR combo –
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