Happy New Year trailers (2) (updated)

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473 Responses to “Happy New Year trailers (2) (updated)”

  1. Abhishek might have the satakli song. Abhishek looks very sharp at these HNY events, the best he’s looked in a very long time though I think most of this happened after HNY (he’s preparing for his home production).

    And to repeat something I said here (and to agree with whoever made this point earlier) he does look very relaxed at these events. It’s not just the usual diplomatic dance. Either the ‘press’ about his part in the film is correct or he’s happy to be moving on to his home production or both. Meanwhile All is Well doesn’t look to be releasing anytime soon. Smriti Irani is holding up whatever bit of the shoot is left. Abhishek had a rather diplomatic response on all of this but he nonetheless confirmed this. I think it works for the film to move it away from the Dec rush. On the other hand if it takes too much time you again have a certain inconsistency in terms of how he looks.

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    • Abhishek Bachchan plays alcoholic tapori dancer in Happy New Year
      By Subhash K. Jha, August 14, 2014 – 11:05 hrs IST

      Abhishek Bachchan looks up to Shah Rukh Khan as one of the most secure actors he has worked with. One look at the promotion and marketing of Happy New Year where Shah Rukh Khan shares equal space with all his co-stars, and we know why Abhishek feels so gung-ho about Shah Rukh.

      And Shah Rukh Khan’s generosity as an actor remained intact even though he is the producer here. Not only does Abhishek Bachchan have a double role in Happy New Year, he also plays an alcoholic.

      Says a source, “Abhishek plays a double role for the first time in his career. One of the two characters in the film is tapori and an alcoholic. Abhishek Bachchan has never done a double role (even Bol Bachchan where he played two characters was technically not a double role), nor has he ever played an alcoholic. Shah Rukh Khan played a double role in Duplicate, an alcoholic in Devdas and a tapori in Josh. He went out of his way to help Abhishek prepare on all three levels.”

      A member of the Happy New Year team reveals, “Though Abhishek Bachchan had two roles, Shah Rukh was absolutely generous helping Abhishek out and providing him with all inputs needed to play the double role.”

      Abhishek Bachchan plays a tapori character who dances on the streets of Mumbai. Suddenly he has to dance in front of celebrity guests at a global dance competition.

      Says a source, “Shah Rukh Khan played the Big Brother to Abhishek throughout the film. He wants Happy New Year to be a turning point in Abhishek’s career. He advised Abhishek to lose weight. For the first time Abhishek went on a strict diet and has lost 9 kgs in less than two months.”

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    • Raj5:

      I think both SRK and Abhishek are pictured on it because the of course seems like it will fit Abhi’s character well but at the same time I saw a leaked video on youtube a couple of months ago of the filming of this song and it was very clearly SRK dancing in an ice rink.

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  2. sorry guys, fixed the thread. the older one had too many comments. Forgot to create a new one for this teaser earlier.

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  3. As I always said, Farah will do justice to Abhishek. These people appear to be professionals, if they got him, they will not waste him.

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  4. “Opinions on the album?”

    I like the Sharabi song a lot, great lyrics and beats. (I thought this song would be on Abhi but one of ths line references “six pack” so I wonder if it’s on Sonu Sood)

    Lovely is another good song.

    Manwa is very good and looks even better on screen.

    Dance like Chamiya reminds me of Sheela ki Jaawani.

    Satakli sounds good too, but again I think the video will make it better.

    Nonsense Ki Night is fun, you have to really hear it and translate it.

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    • I thought the movie would have couple songs which would have middle eastern flavor since the movie is set in Dubai.

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    • Once again Farah shows how it needs to get done. After the song release I think the movie is going to be even bigger than what I previously estimated.

      All sings are chart busters.

      I hear Manwa had 2 Mil clicks in the first 42 hrs of its release.

      I don’t like to predict but I think Indiawalle song will be another CDI moment for Bollywood fans

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    • Sounds like you liked the album. Just listened to the songs once, so I’ll listen to the lyrics of Nonsense again. Yeah let’s see which actor gets what song, that will be interesting. Also in regards to having a middle eastern flavor, the Lonely song appears to have that flavor but I agree that would’ve been nice.

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  5. Whose is stick, his is buffalo, LOL…

    This song is definitly on Abhi, he sang portion of it on the music launch.

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  6. My review:

    Indiawaale: Typical V-S dance song, nothing special. 3/5

    Manwa Laage: Grown to like it and the video is fun. 4/5

    Satakli: Sounds like chartbuster material. I think it’ll be pictured on SRK. Sukhwinder Singh still has a great voice. 4/5

    World Dance Medley: Standard album mashup found in all movies these days.

    Nonsense Ki Night: Nonsense song. Mika Singh is just annoying. 1/5.

    Dance Like a Chammiya: A Standard Sunidhi Chauhan-VS, there’s a hundred of these songs. 2/5

    Sharabi: Catchy, good to hear RDB after a while. Hope it’s pictured on Abhishek and he gets a chartbuster. (His first I think since 2007 with JBJ). 4/5

    Indiawaale Electronic and The Heist instrumental are just plain.

    Lonely= Kamlee: Not sure why there’s 2 versions of this song with the only difference being that they replace the word with Lonely with Kamlee. Having Kamlee is completely unnecessary, it will only draw comparisons with D3’s Kamli. Speaking of which I liked D3’s Kamli as a song better than this one. Regardless, a Catchy song and the Video should be like Sheila Ki Jawaani. 4/5

    Overall 3/5. All the songs are basically dance songs, which is no surprise given the story of the movie. Looks like the movie will have 8 songs, which is too many. If these were Veer-Zaara quality songs then I would have no problem. IMO they should’ve gotten rid of Dance Like a Chammiya and Nonsense ki night and added another romantic song. But makes me think, either the movie is 3 hrs long because of all the songs or it’s the standard 2-2.5 hrs and there’s actually absolutely nothing in terms of plot in the movie.

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    • Songs are very short thou. All of these 8 songs are 30 minutes put together.

      I think each actor getting a solo song or portion of song and the movie being around dance competition is the reason for 8 songs.

      Gone are the days of Veer-Zaara types of songs. Most of the songs sounds same now adays as well as the voice of the singers.

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      • True, the songs are just 3-4 minutes each. And actually V-Z was an exception even for its time, if Yash Chopra hadn’t used Madan Mohan’s unused tunes then it might have been a different story, the music could’ve been as bad as JTHJ

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  7. The comedian in an ensemble always walks away with all the claps (and credit).

    By making him the Johnny Lever of the piece, they are making sure that Abhishek gets his share of the spoils.

    But then they have made doubly sure that he does not get left behind by giving him the double role.

    All said, this is a good deal for Abhishek. This is a victory on a silver platter.

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    • “By making him the Johnny Lever of the piece,”-

      ROFLMAO. Man this line is hilarious.

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      • You are JUST LAUGHING to annoy and incite Satyam.

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        • no I would never have got that from your very serious comment.

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          • “If you cut him, will he not bleed ? Is his blood not as red as ours ?”-

            I can’t stop laughing at this.

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          • Bandra is the Johnny Lever of this blog now. He is walking away with all the end of year awards, for his brilliance in comedy moments.

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          • When has Johnny Lever EVER walked away with the film? Which film did he rise above the lead or supporting acts?
            Name me one film that is remembered FIRST for Lever’s performance.

            Lever generally is what Skakhti Kapoor was in films – a relief with a part that tended not to be central to the plot.
            He never quite became Anupam Kher, who matured from comedic roles, to playing the villain or father or even lead (like A Wednesday) or an Amrish Puri or Paresh Rawal.

            Your praise for Abhishek is maybe genuine, your intent maybe honourable…but your comments are read as patronising on Abhishek. My interpretation of what you claim and what you say are that you are offering “consolidative” praise…not the kind of praise given to someone who finishes a marathon 2nd or 3rd…but someone who does a half a marathon after training for ages, limps out and you say “well he tried”. It’s almost “pity” praise, not the kind one wants and indirectly quite insulting.

            And no, there is nothing wrong with hating Abhishek. I don’t mind the hate mongers. Least you know they are throwing mud. Least it’s not mud wrapped in cotton wool.

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          • agreed on every single thing you’ve said. Specially with the last bit that’s the point all of us have been trying to make but it’s one that Bandra NRI pretends not to understand.

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          • Jay

            These are your reads. A proponent of the inflation adjustments (fake science) in the context of boosting star status. Enough said.

            You have a right to elaborate what is in your mind. Please exercise that right. To read my pity for Abhishek is not your wheelhouse . Further more this is a blog, like you, I am here to express mu thoughts. You may like some, you may disagree with others. Comment on issues, not other fellow members here.

            To repeatedly attack me rather than debate the issue exposes the scum within you. Is that how you want us to remember you ? I have no desire to discuss you, I rather just talk about the issues.

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          • So then debate
            When has Johnny Lever EVER walked away with the film?
            Which film did he rise above the lead or supporting acts?
            Name me one film that is remembered FIRST for Lever’s performance.

            This is in response to your comment “If Abhishek pull out a Johnny Lever in HNY, he will walk away with the film (Period).”

            My point is when has Johnny Lever ever walked away with ANY film?

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          • Your last bit here is beyond the pale.. it’s an uncalled for personal attack. I don’t see where he has addressed you in similar fashion? But I see his stress on trending is something that really bothers you! Can guess why!

            Also don’t try and divert the argument when everyone is saying you have a right to hate and love (!) anyone you like. But it’s a contradiction in terms to admit you’re a SRK fan but then also call yourself ‘neutral’. Specially when you have the same sorts of remarks on Aamir and Bachchan Sr (let’s forget Abhishek for the moment). Again dislike even those two but the point is the nature of your comments. And most of the people objecting here aren’t even Abhishek fans!

            Leaving all this aside you know you’re playing games. If you say stuff like you have on Abhishek/Johnny Lever or most of the other stuff you say on him or the things you’ve said on Aamir or Bachchan a 100% of people will find your comments to be in bad faith. Because if you have those views express them openly. What’s the pretense about when no one’s getting fooled? Even if you’re completely sincere about these views (and I’d worry if that were the case!) you shouldn’t say them because every time you do you hurt your credibility more. So the question then becomes: what are you hoping to achieve with these comments?

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          • Jay

            My responsibility lies to debate my comment not the monster you morph that into.

            I suggest you substitute another comedian if your angst is with Johnny Lever.

            Read the original comment, it is not about Johnny Lever. It is about using comedy to assure acceptance and credit.

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      • been reading comments on abhishek recently from this guy and you can’t help but notice the passive aggressive tone even if its just in writing. i mean come on…johnny lever??? come on dude. just be up front with your opinion instead of acting like you have abhishek’s best interest at heart. very cowardly IMO.

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        • Your personal attacks are dumb and unfounded. This is a new low, “passive aggressive” my left foot.

          Johnny Lever represent a proven & successful comedian. Sadly your reactions stinks of arrogance. It appears that in your eyes Johnny Lever is some sub par comoditity.

          Heist films have a formula, SRK is the mastermind, the hero; Sood is the handsome muscle; the Shah kid is the odd ball tech wiz, Boman is the sleezy safe cracker; Naturally it follows then that Abhishek is THE CLOWN (so to speak). He will be the one generating all the laughs. This is an important element of the ensemble heist formula.

          In the Manwa song we see the clowning. We also see that in intro clip. Now you may think Jonny Lever is nobody, fine, go ahead, substitute another name, Asrani, I S Johar, Mahmood, ….whatever you like. The fact remain, in this formula, Abhishek is the comedian.

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          • I thought I was saying the most obvious thing, instead I find that people’s arrogance is turning even an simple statement in some “passive aggressive” nonsense.

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          • I think you should give it up. No one buys this act. You can keep protesting till the cows come home. No one’s buying it. It’s just a very silly way of acting. You’re free to express any opinion but if you say silly things and presumably want to be taken seriously (hence the insistence on being ‘sincere’) but if no one’s falling for it what’s the point? Now you might say everyone is taking you the wrong way but if you actually believe that I’d say you suffer from very low intelligence! Somehow I don’t think that’s the case. The point again is say whatever you want. but the silliness isn’t getting you anywhere. No one buys it. It fails the sincerity test, it fails the test of achieving whatever it is you wish to with these statements, it even fails the sarcasm test because it’s so incredibly crude. So just not sure what you’re pretending to do here. Of course you were the person who once pretended to be completely neutral about SRK. I knew what you were upto when you said absurd stuff like ‘Aamir did Lagaan or whatever else followed as some act of desperation because he couldn’t keep up with SRK’. Then there have been your coy remarks on Bachchan Sr. After all this pretense one day you suddenly started acting like any other SRK fan boy! Everyone sees through this stuff. You should say whatever you want to openly and then debate or not with whoever challenges you. Nothing wrong in being SRK or anyone else’s fan. But there is something wrong in pretending to be stupid and saying dumb stuff (I’d be scared if you are truly serious about all this!).

            Having said that some of it is understandable. There are many others like you. The thing is that one sometimes constructs a fantasy world online and then when it is challenged or what have you one finds it psychologically hard to deal with it. Hence one has to come up with these sorts of tactics. You’re not the first one, you won’t be the last. But again this isn’t about who you like or dislike. It’s about stupid and immature stuff. I don’t often use these words here but some responses warrant it.

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          • Satyam

            My predisposition or liking is irrelevent. I am neutral, which means not pro anyone. Plus you have NO MEANS OR ABILITY to know my intent. You just have to take my word for it.

            The issues, now that we have gotto this point, are on the table. Either debate it or just be silent. Don’t redirect this into personal attacks.

            In the intro clip and in the Manwa song, I see Abhishek indulge in what can also be called Abhishekism. He does it EFFORTLESSLY, hence full marks. Bravo. Indeed Farah has presented him in a new avatar, we have not seen this side of him before.

            Now based on the two pieces of evidence that I have cited above, I conclude that he is the comedian in this “ensemble”. After all this is a formula film, there is a hero, a muscle, a wired kid, a sleezy old guy, and hence there has got to be a comedian also. I believe that Abhishek is playing that comedian.

            Part of me thinks that some here are so arrogant and in their arrogance find Johnny Lever sub par. Hence they find my comparasion unacceptable. But I was just trying to be crystal clear.

            Then there is part of me that thinks, that perhaps people just find Abhishek not being THE HERO unacceptable. But we can see so far that he is definately not the hero. It would be insanity to believe that he would be the hero in a SRK movie.

            Whatever the case maybe, the issues are on the table, discuss that NOT MY INTENT OR SINCERITY.

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          • Your very first sentence is a totally dishonest one. You’re about as neutral in these matters as Cheney is when it comes to Iraq! If I showed your comments to a 100 people and surveyed them every single one would say you’re a SRK fan and ONLY a SRK fan. Not sure why you have this need to pretend. What one ‘intends’ is not a mystery, it gets reveals through one’s statements and you’ve had very many. Anyway the rest is upto you but you’re wasting your time doing this stuff.

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          • Bandra.NRI: But the framing of your comment itself is just plain wrong. Abhishek is a star-actor doing comedy over here (like the way say Sanjeev Kumar would do in Angoor or a few other films, but he was still always one of the ‘stars’ even in the ensemble films where he wasn’t exactly the central lead) which is completely different from a comedian (Lever was always a comedian in every film, same goes for Mehmood save for a lead role here or there where too no one could confuse him with a star). Also Abhishek will be doing much more than plain comedy in the film. In case even if you wanted to give a loose contemporary example on the lines of Abhishek’s role, you could have said “Devgn’s role in Bol Bachchan”. Actually an even better example would be “Akshay in Khakee” considering this was an ensemble film- Akshay was one of the stars in the film, he wasn’t in the central, he had much more to do than just generate laughter and yet comedy was one of his principal calling cards in the film.

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          • thank you saurabh for bringing in some sanity. like satyam said, you can’t take this guy/girl seriously. this person is ‘neutral’ like bill o’reilly is an independent. yeah right.

            and totally agree with satyam, all of a sudden this person is an obvious fan of SRK. which is fine. just admit it though. I like SRK as well but think he has come to a stand still as an actor for the past decade (has not evolved). i still enjoy Aamir movies but hey, i was pretty harsh on Aamir in D3. i got called a ‘hidden’ SRK fan when i trashed D3. lol.

            i’m not trying to make it personal but it is very difficult to read comments when it just seems like the other person is trying to get a ‘rise’ out of the other by making ridiculous comments in a passive aggressive way. like i said, just be up front and honest. this blog will thank you for it.

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          • Guys

            Being a fan of anyone is not a crime. I have a right to be anyone’s fan. But I support all stars and all films. I am neutral on such matters. In fact the bigger truth is that I don’t go overboard about any one star.

            Now Satyam says that he can take my comments to 100 people for feedback. Why ? Why just single me out ? How about selects a few others also. How about we take Satyam’s comment to a 100 people for feedback. How about we take others people’s comments also for feedback ?

            I am fine with Satyam’s suggestion as long as we take his comments also for feedback, and as long as I get to select the “jury” also.

            NOW IF being say SRK’s fan disqualifies anyone from commenting on say Hritikh THEN likewise being say Abhishek’s fan should disqualify one from commenting on SRK.

            Now Saurabh has brought up Sanjeev Kumar. Good example ? How does that match on all fours in this situation ? Sanjeev in the case you mention was the central and the lead. Abhishek here is clearly one amongst the many side heros. Again, so as to be clear, it is not a dishonor to be the side hero in an ensemble. Clearly not in a big movie like HNY. Certainly an honor to share space with SRK (even Abhishek says that).

            Likewise Saurabh I cannot use Devgan because he was the hero of Bol Bachchan.

            Now that I have explained my position why don’t you guys tell me why such arrogance vis a vis Johnny Lever. If you cut him, will he not bleed ? Is his blood not as red as ours ? If Abhishek pull out a Johnny Lever in HNY, he will walk away with the film (Period).

            Abhishek is doing wonderful things right now. He is choosing success rather than subjective/questionable “prestige”. He is talented. He is smart and is a survivor. He knows best how to walk his walk. I was proud when he embraced Kabbadi. I was happy when he became the Kabaddi Master (successful). I am happy for him for HNY.

            Once again, let’s debate rather than call me Cheny or Bill O’Reiley.

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          • for the simple reason that I or most others here don’t deny who they like or dislike! You do. Rather elementary. But again you just pretend not to understand stuff.

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          • I disagree with equating Johny Lever’s comedy with that of Abhishek Bachhan’s. The latter’s refined, and classy. In addition he’s also a hero/star, and good looking.
            Of course you may hold Johny Lever in high esteem, but that should be done after the realisation ‘in spite of’.

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          • Old Gold

            No doubt, Abhishek is better looking than Johnny Lever. Additionally he is a BONAFIDE star. But in movies actors do play bit parts. Even Tom Cruise (at his peak) has played a supporting role. This arrogance of being better than this, that or the other, is just arrogance.

            By playing a side role, a Johnny Lever like role, Abhishek does not become a Johnny Lever. He just adds layers to his resume. Romantic Lead, done that, check. Adult Comedy (Dostana), done that, check. Intense Role (Yuva), done that, check. Johnny Lever type side role (HNY), done that, check.

            Just look at Matthew McConaughey, did Magic Mike hurt him or help him. Most look at it as a professional growth. Only in Bollywood or here on this blog, it is sub par.

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          • This is another old trick of yours. First you say something ridiculous for obvious reasons and then you soften your tone, expand the comment and pretend it’s the other person who doesn’t want to give credit to the star!

            Anyway this is just a waste of time at this point.

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          • So be it. I’m arrogant. Abhishek not in same bracket as Johny Lever.

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          • It is not that Johnny Lever was not successful at what he did. But let’s not call the orange boy a footballer even if he managed to cut each orange in perfect shapes.
            In the grand scheme of things, no film to my knowledge was ever sold on Johnny Lever’s name. He simply was not a star of that sense. He was always the funny guy in a film and was never structurally important to the narrative of the film.
            And there are others too…like Neeraj Vora or Asrani or Shakti Kapoor or Anupam Kher (in the past when he did those type of roles). Some of these actors prospered way beyond the pigeon whole they were given like Kher, Rawal and Puri but the others rarely did anything different.

            Lever’s done over 300 films. he was doing 10-15 a year in the 90’s and early 00’s. That reveals the kind of actor and roles he was getting were like, typically small, relief roles and not anything that was plot defining.

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          • Jay

            Is there any reason you think HNY is being sold as ANYTHING BUT a SRK film ?

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          • Don’t think he said that anywhere. You’re the one with this perfectly illogical claim:

            1)It’s SRK’s film
            2)Abhishek might walk away with the film
            3)If he does he’s Johnny Lever

            The third point simply does not follow from the other two. Not now or at any other point in movie history. Won’t repeat everything Jay has said on Lever. Everyone knows this to be factually true.

            But in any case you keep contradicting yourself. You know, being a little honest is easier. Just a little! What I will however concede is that in a fantasy world where Aamir does Lagaan and everything that followed as a desperate bid to keep up with SRK and where Bachchan’s success is somehow ‘unknowable’ (indeed no two stars can be compared in this sense because popularity cannot be quantified.. of course how do you know SRK is bigger than anyone else is another question..!) maybe the rest also follows. Must say it must take a lot of work to have your psychological apparatus. Just basing this comment on what you’ve been saying here.

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          • LOL – well anything goes.
            Who knows if Sonu Sood with his body building body pulls a Sunny Deol like moment, it will be him who walks away with the film.
            Or Boman maybe?
            The reality of all this is…in the end, it will be considered SRK’s film by most people.

            Even as a fan of Abhishek, I accept that though people might like his role or even love his role, this is a SRK film and it will be his success. But that NEVER means that Abhishek cannot benefit from the film. It just means the media won’t peddle the film’s success on Abhishek’s starpower.

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          • It’s a SRK film for sure. He is the main lead, the lead actor and star. But that is different from saying it is ONLY HIM.
            You forget Deepika, by your own comments, the other half of the greatest all time pairing in Bollywood history. The comment you made, surely in your mind carries “some” value.
            So it is not ONLY being sold as a SRK film. He is taking the biggest share of the pie. But there is some pie for some others too.

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          • Satyam

            Back to building straw men ? I can speak for myself. Please just speak for yourself and your position.

            bTW your definition of honesty includes saying SRK is over.

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          • but you’re so neutral, why does it matter what I say about SRK? why don’t you ever take up what I say about Hrithik?

            For the record I never said SRK is over in the sense you mean but this is too sophisticated a discussion for most SRK fans.

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          • Jay

            Look at your previous statement. My response was to that statement.

            This is a new statement. A different statement. Do you need a response or you know that already ?

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          • Satyam

            Being neutral does not mean abandoning the truth.

            I was OK till I did not support fake science.

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          • better to end this discussion since everyone has said what they wanted to (to you). The rest is between you and your fantasy.

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    • LOL. great entertainment here. But also wastage of blog space.

      This is the 3rd invective after the 1st one below:

      1) Abhishek has been known MORE as Amitabh’s son and Aishwarya’s hubbby [of course, there is this caveat that this IS a public impression; never mind whether BANDRA is in this public space or in a space of his own?] TILL his team won a kabaddi tournament. NOW he is famous on his own.

      2) Abhishek WILL be a scene-stealer here; but, he won’t/can’t be equated with SAIF in DCH or AKSHAY in KHAKEE or even, say, RITEISH in many ensemble films where he did walk away with a crowd-pleasing part! But there is a reprieve: if you find the Johnny Lever comparison offensive, please replace him with MEHMOOD, ASRANI, etc etc but not, for example, the 3 guys mentioned above!!

      And then, when cornered, bring in Matthew McCongahuey!! Well, why not bring in Matt at the first instant itself? Why was it Johnny Lever? Never knew of any Johnny Lever film where he got to romance a leading lady like Priyanka even though one was restricted to playing the COMEDIC side!! So to validate this absurd comparison, one now ELEVATES Johnny Lever to Shakespearean heights by doing a blood-test on him?

      When people laugh at this comparison, it is then spun around as though everyone taking offense to this comparison with Johnny Lever is an elitist! [I realized this trick long back based on the reaction to articles that talk about the terrorism part plaguing Islam today;there are only 2 responses: a) either there is NO reaction, or,b) the guy who posts such articles is a minority hater and full of filth, scum, etc etc etc who has vicious intentions of communalizing this blog… That’s why I cut short any discussion since I realized the person IS floating on some higher moral, judgmental, cloud].

      Guess the only analogy missing is when Johnny Lever takes a VIAGRA, will he too not get an erection like everybody else?

      Go figure…

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  8. “By making him the Johnny Lever of the piece, they are making sure that Abhishek gets his share of the spoils.”

    Hahaha

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  9. “By making him the Johnny Lever of the piece,”

    LOL…

    You know there was a time in bollywood when each actor had a role to play like Asrani, Jagdeep, Pran, Ajit, Mehmood, Amirsh puri, Amjad Khan, etc…. Nowadays, there are no great actors like that so you have semi lead actor playing those roles.

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    • Exactly.

      Heroes refused to work with Mehmood/Mahmood because he stole the scenes and the credit.

      I would like to think that Johnny Lever is the best comedian today, I was trying to compare Abhishek with the best. Sadly for some Johnny Lever is some sub par human. Really sick and disgusting.

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      • What is sick and disgusting? Truth is truth. Will Deepika or Katrina or even Shraddha Kapoor or Parineeti Chopra accept him as hero?

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        • If you look at the history, yes leading ladies did accept Mahmood/Asrani as hero.

          Some say, they were forced by the fact that do leading man wanted them in their movies.

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    • But everyone seems to be doing comedy bits here even SRK.

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  10. Vishal Shekhar are done. But sadly, there are not many good music directors in Hindi anymore. Even SEL, Pritam are done. Times are so bad that Sooraj Barjatya ended up signing Himesh Reshammiya for his film!

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    • Personally think SEL have still got it and have been consistent for the past few years. They’ve done ZNMD, Vishwaroopam, Bhaag Milkha Bhaag and recently 2 States and each album was different from the other. Now they have Kill Dil and I’m hoping for a BNB/JBJ. Same with Pritam, the man made YJHD and the extremely massy R rajkumar songs in the same year. On this front V-S have failed, all their songs sound the same post OSO. You can literally interchange the Hasee Toh Phasee, Dostana and I hate luv story’s and SOTY albums with the movies and it would make no difference. Of course maybe Karan Johar is to blame for that.

      But overall times are bad which is why we get honey Singh and now the poor mans honey Singh (men must be dirt poor these days) Baadshah. And probably why movies have 3-4 composers for a movie.

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      • Raj5 , either there is helluva ‘dabaa ke’ nepotism / protectionism in bollywood or simply our generation is the untalented lot to have such mediocre musicians among us. When you see / hear the old songs on TV, though they lacked in presentation /budgeting they were melodious and remain with us for a period of time. Here we have grand scale mountings and song ke naam par orchestra music. I think the current lot is not letting the newer ones crop up something Nadeem Shravan were accused for during their time.

        Either way, for some reasons or the other there is hardly anything exciting happening in bollywood and I wish to partly blame the Khans & Kumars to an extent for such sorry state of affairs. The yuppie good looking types are able to command an audience and they have had too much of a long run and now taking everything for granted and collecting cream. They have also given birth to many of their types to emulate them so we have younger stud clones. Let’s see when we have that breakout moment / hero who we can sit up and notice. Apart from PK, was waiting for BV to see if Ranbir/ Kashyap can merge art with commerce but that too is delayed and there are murmurs ranbir is very unhappy with the rushes and this may require reshoot and may further delay from May 15th date…more or less a lost case it seems !!

        On the other hand, a bit surprised to see movies coming out of south and how they manage such imaginative , cutting edge stuff not only in story ideas but also with mainstream heroes…..

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  11. Just manage to hear one line of each song … probably every tune feel like heard before … some are instant and straightforward lifts .. like India Wale (Halkat Jawani) , Lovely/kamlee (Ni Main yaar manana ni chahe log boliya bole) , Sharaabi (Mix of so many punjabi hits) …

    Having said all this .. Kamlee/Lovely will be only chartbuster .. thanks to laxmikant Pyarelal superhit composition in Daag.

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  12. Guy

    To all those who I may have via an innocent comment caused acid reflux, please for heaven’s sake reflect on Matthew McConaughey. Ask yourself, did Magic Mike hurt him or help him ? I would like to think that it was a professional growth.

    Only here on this blog, it is sub par (considering the Johnny Lever episode).

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  13. Everything I have seen of this movie so far looks terrible.

    SRK is nearly 50 and has delivered some of the biggest hits around, but the compulsion to keep producing bigger and bigger hits has not gone away. Hence films like Happy New Year, Chennai Express etc.

    Even if it ends up making 200-250 crore, so what? His bank balance will definitely grow, but why do I feel from his interviews that he is more ambitious than the movies he is doing? Someone who wants to leave the competition so far behind that he is the only one left standing. But in reality Aamir is the one who seems to be doing that.

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    • “why do I feel from his interviews that he is more ambitious than the movies he is doing?”

      His ambitions are not limited to movies, his biggest pie of income is not from movies.

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      • He has specifically said in interviews that he wants to make a 500-1000 crore movie…maybe he has the Sajid Khan syndrome too. Just talk big.

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      • But ‘income’ has nothing to do with it. Stars can get rich in all sorts of ways.. that’s not an ambition that has anything to do with the question at hand. This kind of thing has often been thrown out in the past. if he makes a zillion dollars on a Dubai villa project what does that have to do with his ambitions for himself as a movie star? History doesn’t take into account what s star invests in!

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    • The thing with SRK is that he could never really take those big risks. It’s true he’s always been more ambitious than his films, it’s also true that in the 90s he tried out different stuff. But at some point he just sold out completely to Yashraj/Johar and those sorts of forces. Many stars do this, there’s nothing odd about this. But unlike many others he’s never quite liked his key genres (he’s said so more than once.. claimed not even to have believed in DDLJ) which cannot be said for every other star and their strength genres. The point I’m trying to make is he’s always been more intelligent than his fans and actually (and this might shock people) but he doesn’t have the worst taste in films (even if he keeps it well-disguised!). And certainly he’s always had that technological bug, wishing to ‘modernize’ the industry as he sees it.

      The problem of course is that all these ambitions always took a backseat to the star who was willing to do anything to preserve the success he got, however he got it. So much of his persona was built around being the ‘biggest’ and so on that he couldn’t but keep pursuing this. One must also then admit that there’s a problem with the ambition itself. Because an authentic ambition would not be sold off so cheaply just to manufacture the next grosser or what have you. He’s tried intermittently over the last 15 years (swades, Paheli, CDI) but never with too much conviction and never consistently. This was especially surprising after CDI given that the film did well. Because again he’s been about the biggest numbers and so forth. How much of this is truth and how much advertising is another matter. But when he does HNY he just wants numbers that can make his film comparable with whatever the biggest benchmarks are.

      I’ve not been a SRK fan since the late 90s or something but whatever the sum of his talents he could have been a far more interesting star than he chose to be. Specially once things changed in the past decade. It’s one thing to keep producing the big numbers and just pursue that path and quite another to be willing to do anything just to make those numbers come about. Because after 2004 he’s struggled to consistently get those numbers. There’s been KANK, OSO, then CE and now of course HNY. He’s had RNBDJ or CDI otherwise but these didn’t have those kinds of numbers, specially the former. But he has tried to do this one way or the other. Got that initial with Ra One in fact. On the other hand neither don could do it. After a long time he got a big one in every sense in CE, he’s been smart in a sense to follow it up with HNY. But the latter depends on a team. He just needs to be the symbolic ‘head’, get those moments in the film, have it sell on his name. But the ‘hard work’ will not be done for him. For this he needed at least one credible star-actor (irrespective of wherever he might be in box office terms at the moment) and he of course chose Abhishek (as did his director). We’ve had a lot of discussion on this year. Devgan wouldn’t have done BB with just anyone. In his own way I don’t think SRK would have done HNY (in its current form) with anyone but Abhishek (i.e. double role etc). But even leaving aside Abhishek this film is a circus and by definition SRK doesn’t need to pull the film barring the symbolic moments. Beyond this he has two smaller films in Fan and Raees. He probably has some breathing space after two big ones (though I must say if HNY tanked after a massive start it wouldn’t surprise me.. nothing has looked remotely appealing about it so far). But his entire plan in any case seems to be about somehow keeping the branding alive. Think it’s even harder for him to take risks at this point when his two contemporaries are doing so well in different ways. Otherwise he might well have felt a bit more liberated, at least at his age.

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      • “though I must say if HNY tanked after a massive start it wouldn’t surprise me.. nothing has looked remotely appealing about it so far”

        You can say that about any SRK films including the ones that hasn’t started filming yet. I wish you would have some new comments.

        Mix it up little.

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        • You know in that black hole you disappeared into between OSO and CE that’s when a lot of SRK films either didn’t open big or didn’t trend big or both! With Ra One recently you had the absolute tank after a massive start but you might not have returned from that black hole in time. It’s not my fault that SRK isn’t doing a Salman or an Aamir!

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      • Exactly, he is nearing 50. Why the compulsion to be the biggest star around? Let Ranbir, Ranveer, Hrithik or whoever take that pressure off of him.

        He should try to make intelligently budgeted films that do more than just make money at the box office But I feel India, especially North India, is a very money minded nation and hence the focus will always be on which films made the most money. It’s really hard to escape from that kind of thinking.

        No one expects the biggest stars in Hollywood, DiCaprio, Denzel, Pitt etc. to keep delivering the biggest hits around. And from the movies they are selecting it appears they are not even trying to do that, which must be so liberating.

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        • Yes and can you blame him when you have folks here (and this isn’t the first time I’ve heard this) saying stuff like ‘oh he’s very rich’ etc etc. But I’d also make a larger point here, not for the first time. ‘New India’ has always been about success more than anything else. You see this in every sense. And so everything ‘artistic’ or what have you is only supported only to th extent that it gets you that success. Otherwise no one cares. While the world has never been about those who fail in some societies at certain points in times this is especially underlined. The US has always been that kind of place in ways that europe hasn’t (generalizing things a bit here). Similarly India since the 90s has also been that kind of place, at least when we talk about the 250-300m ‘middle class’. It’s not surprising therefore that box office discussions completely overwhelm everything else. Whether it’s the most commercial film or an offbeat one this is the only discussion that happens. Similarly no one really talks about ‘actors’, they just refers to stars who can gross x or y. Again the box office was always paramount but it is precisely in this age, and specially online, that things have gone completely crazy. It’s got to the point where it’s very hard to break through in any discussion until you can translate it into the language of grosses and so forth. In this sense no one ought to be surprised that these kinds of films are being made. And to get to your other point this is again where the absence of a genuine film culture has certain consequences. There are ways of evaluating Hollywood stars that don’t depend on the gross alone, there are ways of examining films that aren’t about the box office. But in India there’s no such thing. Just online, where it’s obviously a more educated crowd (at least in the formal sense.. not that this means much on its own), it’s very hard for most people to understand ‘value’ in an actor/star/film if the same cannot be tied to a language of gross. Orson Welles never really made a successful film. Throughout his life he struggled with Hollywood studios. In one case he even lost a film of his forever (the mercilessly butchered Magnificent Ambersons). He’s been considered one of the greatest talents for a long time. His Citizen Kane (which didn’t do well at all, didn’t even recover costs) is considered the greatest by many. This is not even to get into all his other interesting work, most of it not too well-known but which is being afforded significant DVD releases now and/or reruns. So many such examples in Hollywood. Every film industry has such figures to a greater or lesser extent. But unless you have a film culture, a critical culture that can evaluate a film without thinking of the box office you’ll never enable that other space to be created. So if you make a somewhat different film in Bollywood and if it gets mauled at the box office the critical opinion will more or less follow this result (even prior to release critics obviously have a fairly good sense of whether something is going to work or not). It’s easy to laugh at slime balls like Taran or Nahta or whoever but their logic is one everyone seems to follow ‘see it’s such a bad film and the box office will soon prove this’ or ‘it’s such a good film, who cares what critics say? the box office will reveal the truth’. With these attitudes it’s not surprising we get these films. And since HNY is making news at the moment we have folks like Bandra NRI who finds the visuals here more impressive than Moulin Rouge! This is what happens!

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          • Couldn’t agree more with every single word you have articulated. Whether it’s movies or any other aspect of life, the society is making it very difficult to focus on anything other than money.

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          • “Whether it’s movies or any other aspect of life, the society is making it very difficult to focus on anything other than money.”

            And society in India is much different from USA as well as everything else. Not sure why Hollywood is reference so much when making an argument for Bollywood films or bollywood stars. Two totally different things.

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          • Given how much they imitate Hollywood including with the name itself I would have thought that would be the perfect comparison!

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          • But in India there’s no such thing. Just online, where it’s obviously a more educated crowd (at least in the formal sense.. not that this means much on its own), it’s very hard for most people to understand ‘value’ in an actor/star/film if the same cannot be tied to a language of gross.

            But satyam has talked about only about gross of holiday.Not about its quality.When some good films of some actors become successful,bo is suddenly talked about.

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          • “But satyam has talked about only about gross of holiday.”

            Probably because I haven’t seen it! Actually once I missed it in the theater or wasn’t inspired enough to go I decided to wait for a good transfer here. Not sure if they’ve done the release on this. Do want to check it out. Of course the Akshay Kumar fan talking about quality films is about as curious as their favorite star doing them! More seriously I’ve always supported Akshay Kumar in his second coming. His films are mostly intolerable, that’s another matter. But I rather like him otherwise. I’ve actually always felt that he could have been in Salman’s position but he avoided masala like the plague for the longest time.

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          • Isn’t Bollywood always trying to reach Hollywood level? With statements like Krrish 3 special effects are at LOTR level lol.

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          • I am just surprised Roshans didn’t say that Krrish 3 made more money than LOTR.

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  14. Happy New Mayur @mayurpuri · 6m
    Shah sir will also be seen in Sharabi song. #MangalWithMayur

    Happy New Mayur @mayurpuri · 5m
    Shah sir is there in #Satakli. So just calm down. #MangalWithMayur

    Happy New Mayur @mayurpuri · 51m
    #Satakli is shot on various locations. Dubai mall is one of them, yes.

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    • all kinds of rumors floating around this.. satakli might not just have SRK but everyone, Sharabi might not just have Abhishek. etc etc. he looks to be the main act in one of these though.

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      • I still think it’s the Sharabi song which is mainly on Abhi. Love that song.

        I think Nonsense Ki Night is on Abhi too.

        I think Abhi will have 4 songs in the movie.

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        • I don’t like that song at all. Typical loud techno-music with a Punjabi beat. Utterly generic. If one had to choose satakli is at least pleasant and the love song is the best of the lot though still a far cry from the OSO love song. It’s just amazing to me that one one of their biggest films V-S can’t even match OSO. I am certain SEL could have done a lot better than this.

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        • On OSO I believe the music of OSO is very good. I used to love Ajab Si, Main Agar Kahoon, Daasteen E OSO and Deewangi. Dard E Disco was the only song I hated. MHN had even better music as Anu Malik is a better music director than VS.
          I havent listened to any songs of HNY except from the trailors and I think Indiawaale is downright pathetic but the other song is quite good. I dont know about the other songs but matching OSO’s music is any case difficult for lot of movies these days. But then again music is a personal preference so i get it when u say that it cant even get to OSO’s (low) level.

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          • OSO had a good soundtrack, especially the phantom of the opera esque Daastane, and MHN was a lot of fun, especially the modern qawalli ‘tumse milke dil ka haal’.

            Also, there is one thing common to most Bollywood directors, things progressively get worse from where they started.

            Ramesh Sippy – Sholay to Zamaana Deewana, granted he made some good films between Sholay and that disaster, but nothing even remotely as good as Sholay.

            Farhan Akhtar – DCH to Don 2

            VVC – Parinda still remains his peak as a filmmaker.

            Aditya Chopra – DDLJ

            And the list goes on and on….

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          • “there is one thing common to most Bollywood directors, things progressively get worse from where they started. ”

            This is true for recent directors … but if you look at filmography of directors till 80’s(started as early as 1935) .. they made comeback many times and given classics. For eg .. Raj Kapoor – Started with flop(Aag, 1948) .. Made classics even in 80’s. Manmohan Desai – Started with Average/Flops in 60’s .. rest you know well. There are atleast 5-6 more such names — Chetan Anand, Vijay Anand, Manoj Kumar, Yash Chopra, Prakash Mehra, Hrishikesh Mukherjee, Basu Chatarje, Gulzar, Guru Dutt .. etc

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  15. Among all the songs Lovely is the only one making some impact but that too is due to deepika’s screen presence & sexy avatar esp when you keep her recent twitter tirade against TOI – ‘YES!I am a Woman. I have breasts AND a cleavage! You got a problem!!??’

    With that comment in mind ,she is looking sexier than Katrina here and make up is just perfect ! I may have to visit cinema hall just for this.

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  16. Man ! that wink at us towards the end is killer material……never found her so sexy …no not even in that dum maaro dum item song…..

    Among this overcrowded circus , she remains the top shot for this movie too and may I say crowd puller.

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  17. Looking at all promos/songs so far .. HNY not going to sustain beyond first 4 days .. Farah and Sajid Khan exhausted whatever little talent they had .. Sajid best was Darna Zaroori Hai .. and Farah best was .. hmmmm .. hmmm .. may be MHN.

    Ironically .. Shirish Kunder is most talented in their family .. but with no work.

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    • “HNY not going to sustain beyond first 4 days”

      SO what’s your prediction for the first 4 days and the entire run?

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      • Don’t take my(or any one) predictions so seriously .. if movie is good, it will trend and do well ..

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        • of course ‘trending’ itself has become a problematic thing these days because the moment a film reaches a certain mark the ‘din’ of it being a success overwhelms everything. Today successes are manufactured more than in any other age I can think of. So if HNY goes from say 150 or something (first week or so) to 200 that would be poorer but no moreso than many other films of its kind. If it does something a bit more than this that too is hardly great but we know CE or Kick did the same. So it is precisely the ‘biggest’ kind of film that trends poorly or half-decently (judged by the abysmal standards of today) because this sort of film is never made for more than the big bang. Obviously if it does 250 or so from the same level it will have done better than most other big films of the recent past. And so on. But where I do think you have a point is that this film doesn’t look like the sustaining sort. It might well be better than the trailers but in general Farah Khan at least since OSO has gone in for a complete circus. OSO at least had the Karz framing (though she could have had a much bigger success without the nonsense she stuffed into it), here there’s none of that. Given all the music (most of it poor by any standard.. I’m sure one won’t mind it in the film but that’s different from loving it), the kind of comedy (a lot of it operating at Sajid Khan’s level) and so on. I think ‘excess’ is fine to generate initials but ultimately any kind of film needs enough of a soul to truly work in some serious trending sense. Here even at that relative level CE offers a counter-example. Shetty makes a certain kind of film repeatedly but he doesn’t overdo it. Even with all his 100 crore grossers he never tries to outdo himself in the newest film. He sticks to a certain level, a certain ‘quantitative’ mix (comedy/action/romance whatever). Directors like Farah Khan decide it has to be the ‘biggest’ and then the whole film is designed like a series of item moments. It’s not just one song or the other, the entire film follows such a logic. But things don’t pan out that way. You cannot mechanically put things together. These have to develop organically from the script. Even the most effective item numbers are still more often than not part of the script in a dramatic sense. They shouldn’t pop out of nowhere. In HNY you could make an excellent film if you just focused on the camaraderie within the ‘gang’. Not just every scene with all of them but scenes that mean something. And this goes for a number of things. if you have SRK shirtless in a fight it doesn’t work the way it does when Devgan does the same. Because one star has that image, the other doesn’t. SRK’s base isn’t there to watch him do that and the folks who love that sort of sequence don’t find SRK credible doing it. So what’s the point? Beyond the 8 pack ad or whatever? This is one example but this logic plays out across the board. When you show Abhishek introduce the Bachchanesque genealogy. So on and so forth. When a film is constructed this cynically it’s hard for there to be any sort of soul to it. This wasn’t true for MHN. Despite all this an enjoyable film can still work at some level or the other but those higher bars are almost always ruled out. There’s just too much going on at every point. Hard for the audience to digest it and certainly connect with it in any true sense. Here even the Salman films, abysmal though they might be for the most part, nonetheless operate with a somewhat different principle. They’re all only about Salman. Everything else is incidental. Yes because of this the films are always poor but they’re not excessive in the same way. Even with him when they’ve tried to be excessive or simply cynical they’ve had very fast fadeouts (Dabanng 2). But essentially it’s about Salman. CE isn’t ‘about’ SRK in that sense, much less something like HNY or OSO. A central star will always be central to a film but that’s different from the star carrying the film in a deeper structural sense. hrithik does this sort of thing in his key films. To like Bang Bang you have to ‘buy’ his image in this sense. Otherwise nothing else will work here. In HNY no one has to love SRK to like the film. The same was true for CE by the way. An older star has enough of a base to get by in the right film, that’s different from the audience being actively invested in the star. Admittedly this sort of thing is rare for the older star. Salman is an exception in this sense. But even at a somewhat lesser level when Devgan does a Singham he demands that sort of personal investment from the audience. The same wasn’t true for any of his Golmaal films. In any case getting back to my original point hardly anyone in Bollywood not called Hirani (i.e. purely commercial directors) is willing to risk the sincere film. And this is why Farah Khan has never understood the first thing about Desai despite being a huge fan of the latter. Desai was never about a literal party. He was always (certainly on his best days, when his films became a Bachchan show these suffered even if Bachchan nonetheless made the films hugely iconic) about something other than this, not something more but something other. People today tend to read Desai as a collection of item numbers or whatever but that’s totally false. If it weren’t there wouldn’t be the sort of cathartic element there always was in his films. You can take as many actors as you want but they should all seem part of the script as opposed to the script being there to support them. Now in fairness Farah Khan has had the HNY idea for a long time. But whether it was ever a good idea remains to be seen. Currently it just looks like sensory overload to me.

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          • Satyam:

            “People today tend to read Desai as a collection of item numbers or whatever but that’s totally false. If it weren’t there wouldn’t be the sort of cathartic element there always was in his films.”-

            While I read this bit, I was reminded of this excellent passage from Q’s terrifically evocative essay on Freedom which I had posted on the blog some time back. It’s almost like a summary of your essays on Desai

            “Not that fate offers a complete redemption: In Amar Akbar Anthony, Nirupa Roy looked back on her family in all its wholeness, as it was before it was sundered and taken from her. A wholeness that could not be completely redeemed. For even though no-one had died and everyone was re-united by film’s end — a rare thing even in the movies, this absence of irreparable injury; think of Naseeb, Kaala Patthar or Suhaag — and even though Amar, Akbar and Anthony were revealed as brothers, too much had happened. Time had passed, making everything less free.”

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          • yes remember this fine passage…

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          • a few days ago on Bachchan’s blog:

            [Farah Khan claims to be a huge Desai fan and I don’t doubt this but honestly there is a gulf between the two. And I don’t mean this in the literal sense. It would be hard for anyone to match his gifts but it’s about following the ‘logic’ of his work. Yes, against the usual canards I insist precisely on the ‘logic’ of his films. At least on his best days. Someone argued with me about this sometime back in the context of AAA. The title credits scene was pointed out as being silly or something. But it’s not Desai’s fault if people don’t know how to read. And here one must even resist the whole ’emotional appeal’ that is sometimes made with such films because that is another way of saying ‘yes the films were illogical and silly but somehow they were great fun and one felt a lot watching them’. As if to say these were irrational films that appealed to some baser ‘enjoyment instinct’! No! One must insist on the ‘logic’ of these works. And so in that moment you have three different men who are brothers but who belong to different religions jointly giving blood to the ‘mother’. I am not sure what’s hard about following the overdetermined (and perhaps too heavy) symbolism here! As I’ve said before all these canards which have a long pedigree (other such code words are ‘violence’, ‘action’ etc) are ways of undermining works that one might enjoy but ultimately be opposed to on certain ideological grounds.

            Desai in any case is not about throwing the ultimate club party as Farah Khan seems to be. For him the ‘party’ always came about by mixing the high and the low, the different types from the religious to the ethnic and so on. Similarly it resulted from the complicated narrative arcs of his best works. His picaresque mode was a means of staging an idealized image of the secular state. This is truly what his films are about. And he announces this decision in his very first film with his (once) mentor, Raj Kapoor. Not for nothing was he the latter’s student even if it’s interesting to note how at the very moment that Desai was making his films Raj Kapoor’s own work got extremely dark on the same subject — the health of the national polity. From our perspective it now seems that Raj Kapoor was perhaps more right, perhaps his later work for all its grotesque overstatements is a better harbinger of what followed whereas Desai’s seems the last chapter in a long truly secular history. Which is not to say that secularism (in its Nehruvian sense) did not survive this period but it certainly has been under severe attack since and since these last elections has reached an absolute low point. If you switch on the media channels and watch any discussion it’s hard to decide whether the most important minority of the country is being blamed more for everything under the sun from corruption to bad weather or if it’s Nehru. The latter probably fares the worst. Hard to think of another country where such a gigantic and really singular ‘founding father’ is so much under attack from such large cross-sections of the population. But this is why one should take popular entertainment seriously. They index the times. We had the films we had then, we had Amitabh Bachchan emerge then, and we know what we have now (even if the same Amitabh bachchan is maddeningly, impossibly, excruciatingly diplomatic when describing all kinds of samples from the present!) or have had since. I’m not at all a nostalgist. But I also cannot endorse every notion of the ‘present’. Much as every ‘new’ is not worth waiting for much less supporting. Yes, change is a fact of life but not all of it is welcome. Now having said all this both Desai and Nehru will prove like ‘vampires’ for those opposed to them. They already have! They keep trying to drive the stake through their hearts and they keep coming back! Ha!]

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          • Something tells me that the delay in HNY is more like “how many item numbers do I need to stick in here” than the qualitative aspect of the script.
            I mean Hirani delaying a script vs. Farah are probably likely to be for 2 totally different reasons judging by the kind of films they make! Don’t take my first comment as “literal” – I hope it’s the “sentiment” that attracts comments!

            On HNY, I really am not seeing anything other than another circus. I like heist films so the film will score on that front. But the excessive colours, sets, extravagance is not at all appealing.
            Few have discussed OSO album. I am quite fond of it overall. Every song except Dard e Disco appealed to me. My favourite by far both song and picturisation was Dhoom Taana. But I much prefer Main Hoo Naa.

            Main Hoo Naa went some way in bridging the gap between me not liking the Johar/Chopra presentation of SRK and me liking a SRK film. Farah kept enough of the things audiences like about SRK in that film without it occupying the complete corniness that Johar presents. Maybe it helped that the story of MHN was more a family drama than a love story and that the romancing between SRK and Sen was far lighter. Whatever it was, it worked better than the drab Veer Zaara type romance or the Saved by the Bell type romance in KKHH/DTPH.

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          • Satyam, I loved that scene in AAA of 3 brothers giving blood together and partly more so due to the song playing in the back ground. But I do think a new age person in the age group of 20 to 30 who has started seeing movies in the 1990’s will find that scene pretty much silly and devoid of logic. In fact most of Desai’s movies will be considered trash , pretty much on the same lines of trash that is being dished out in the name of masala movies nowadays. Some like AAA, Naseeb , Saccha Jhutha might stand the test of time but apart from AAA the rest will barely make it even there. I just think that the generational gap of the people watching movies in the 1990’s is too much with the oldies (Not in terms of age but with what movies their impressionable age coincided with). Your statement might find lot of concurrence with people born in the 1970’s or early 80’s is what I feel. But for the rest these kind of movies have not aged well enough for them to appreciate it.

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          • I disagree. I think precisely these old movies have remained current. I have never met a person of any generation who didn’t enjoy this stuff but I have met plenty who offer ‘apologies’ for enjoying it. If anything I am surprised at many films that have found an audience and that I find less than worthy. Stuff from the 80s for example.

            The second point I’d make is that even if people cannot relate to it (it’s true that at some point the past becomes ‘ancient’, even Bachchan will not be as ‘current’ at some point as he is now. Referring to his older work) it hardly argues against the work in any sense. People cannot relate to older literary works. That doesn’t mean there’s a problem with the latter.

            So yes the generational gap eventually becomes too great. It’s just a fact of life. But the Beatles will be extraordinary whether they remain as current as they have been so far or not. The same goes for Bachchan’s films or anything else.

            However if someone says that some of these older films (I’m not referring to everything) are just like the masala of today or whatever then I’m afraid they need an education. First off even in the present age most people don’t praise those films. But even if they did so what? Someone might find a song from HNY more entertaining than an old Lata number, even find it ‘better’. That’s hardly a problem with the Lata song for anyone who knows this stuff! And I’d again get back to an older point. Democracy allows everyone to have an opinion but all opinions are not otherwise equally valid. And by the way this is true in every country. A younger generation today wouldn’t quite relate to the Searchers but they might love the latest Avengers installment or whatever. That doesn’t mean anything about the Searchers has to be explained! The difference though is that in the US there is a critical culture which offers the right kind of commentary on all these matters. In India there isn’t so people think it’s just about what most people like at any given point of time. And once again we rely on this cult of the majority.

            Finally this also doesn’t mean those films have to be everyone’s favorite thing. As I keep pointing out AAA (for example) has never been a personal favorite. Nor Sholay. Most people find especially the latter shocking. I am not denying the strengths of either film. Just saying it’s not a personal favorite. But even the latter within reason. If Deewar is one’s favorite film but not AAA that’s one thing but quite another if one then says that Yaarana (Bachchan) is one’s favorite! In more contemporary terms I like Talaash more than most of Aamir’s work in this current post-Lagaan phase of his but I wouldn’t necessarily say it’s the best in a critical sense. But it would be odd if I called Fanaa my favorite in this same period. Nothing wrong in enjoying the latter. Just odd to enjoy it more than those others. So even with favorites there has to be some sanity but here at least one is not saying anything more.

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          • Krish:

            “But I do think a new age person in the age group of 20 to 30 who has started seeing movies in the 1990’s will find that scene pretty much silly and devoid of logic. ‘

            “Your statement might find lot of concurrence with people born in the 1970’s or early 80’s is what I feel. But for the rest these kind of movies have not aged well enough for them to appreciate it.-

            Krish, I am 23 years old and I am as interested in understanding Desai as anyone else. Yes, the ‘age’ in which you are living matters, but it’s also primarily about interest (an ‘interest’ not just on a person-to-person level, but also the ‘collective interest’ prevalent in an generation… (think of this, since a lot more youngsters are ‘truly’ interested- which is to say they are ardent followers- in cricket than films in India, you would see a good number of them making an effort to know who Gundappa Vishwanath was if not Vijay Merchant. However very of them would want to know who Suriya is, leave alone Ashok Kumar). And the zeitgeist (and I am only using this term loosely) of the period also matters- most of us only want to know about something which is the flavour of the season (and this quite often irrespective of our age: whether I am 20 or I am 40 if I am from middle class/upper middle class background there are more chances that I will end up talking about English Premier League rather than India’s dominance in Snooker because the former is considered ‘cooler’)

            However, IMO the major reason why people might not be in a position to understand Desai (or Masala cinema) is because there is a complete absence of proper critical “literature” in India on these films in the official sense- even Satyam (I think) doesn’t write for a newspaper or a publication. So if at all you have to read on these topic, you have to check out blogs (and blogs aren’t a substitute for a newspaper!). Actually I am not exaggerating things too much when I say that had there not been proper critical pieces on them available for the Western media, a lot of the great Samurai films from the golden age of Japanese cinema would have also been as termed as “silly/foolish” at quite a few levels (I am not comparing these films with Desai and Mehra on formal filmmaking levels BTW)

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          • India’s dominance in snooker? Really? Wishful thinking! 🙂

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          • “Desai and Mehra”

            There’s a huge difference between Desai and Mehra films.

            Mehra had more sense, my personla taste was more for Desai types of films.

            Every era has it’s own circus types of films. I prefer circus or 70’s more than circus that followed it but there are some who prefer circus of 60s more than 70s and there are those who prefer circus of 50s more than 60s and so on…

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          • Yes but one can extend these things to a point where they become devoid of meaning. there were no circuses in the 60s! One could say masala cinema was one kind of circus, a good one. Then one could look at HNY or much masala today and find a very poor imitation of a circus. Shakespeare too is a ‘circus’ at one level. In one case it’s definitional, in another one uses the term in a negative sense. Nice try though!

            By the way I completely disagree that Mehra had more ‘sense’ than Desai. It’s a question of taste. One can certainly prefer Mehra to Desai. Who made the greater films at his best is perhaps debatable. The question of ‘sense’ though is a different one.

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          • I didn’t mean ‘dominance’ literally and should have used ‘beize sports’ (both billiards and snooker)- we have had world champions in the sports since decades now- right from Wilson Jones (who was India’s first individual world champion in any sport), Michael Ferreira, Geet Sethi (who was a champion on multiple occasions), Pankaj Advani (who has won the championship in both disciplines and continues to do be a formidable force). There have been other foljs who have been champions in Team events and in Asian Games etc- Ashok Shandilya, Yasin Merchant etc

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          • I presume you are not talking about Snooker as that sport has been dominated by United Kingdom since forever
            But don’t worry, I got your point! It’s sometimes not cool to talk about Snooker…but interestingly I follow every sport be it football, cricket, tennis, golf etc. but the one I get stuck into most on TV is Snooker or Darts! Go figure!!!

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          • Check this one out, it’s from August-

            “GLASGOW: It turned out to be an all-India affair in the inaugural World Billiards Team Championship final after the two Indian teams demolished their respective opponents in the four-day event on Thursday.

            Top cueists from India displayed their dominance on the green baize as both the teams got past their respective opponents without losing a single frame before making a comfortable entry into the semifinal. “-

            On Snooker from the same tourney-

            “Advani, who recently made the country proud again by not only winning the IBSF World 6-Red Snooker Championship but also creating a unique record of winning world titles in the longer and shorter formats of both billiards and snooker, has a chance of adding one more title to his incredible shelf. ”

            http://m.timesofindia.com/sports/more-sports/snooker/billiards/All-India-show-in-World-Billiards-Team-Championships-final/articleshow/40286348.cms

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          • I don’t think this is the same snooker. Maybe it is played with less reds.
            Snooker is usually played on 12 foot by 6 foot with 15 reds.
            In any case I did not know this but I suspect we are talking about different variations of the game.

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          • http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBSF_World_Snooker_Championship

            The IBSF is an amateur version. The professional version is this link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Snooker_Championship and dominated by UK champions for over 60 years.

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          • Z:

            ” there are some who prefer circus of 60s more than 70s”-

            Actually no one prefers 60’s over 70’s (there can be a competition between 50’s and 70’s, but not at all between 60’s and 70’s, not even on the grounds of entertainment).

            “There’s a huge difference between Desai and Mehra films.”-

            Never said otherwise. And you know what, while there was quite often a very clear difference between the two, sometimes the lines of demarcation would blur. In Mehra’s “Hera Pheri”, you very clearly not only have a Desai like comedy 9although it was slightly more subtle than Desai, more like how it was in Mehra’s own Haath Ki Safai) going on, but also the ‘lost and found’ angle. But hold on, let’s move on to Namak Halaal- a lot of the over-the-top comedy by bachchan and the others seems like the “DIRECT RESULT” of the Desai films. And this happened because the Bachchan of the Desai films (and his ‘lighter’ persona) had become so potent as a symbol by this time that he had to be somehow incorporated in Mehra’s world (there are parts of this even in Sharabi). And notice how Namak Halaal and Sharaabi are very different from Mehra’s own earlier Zanjeer, MKS and Lawaaris

            Finally Mehra’s Jaadugar was famously too similar to the Desai produced (and perhaps ghost-directed) “Toofan” which were being made at the same time. And Bachchan and Mehra had a fallout over this.

            BTW why do I feel that you aren’t debating in good faith

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          • the thing is people are committed to a favorite star and then they don’t like hearing that the star’s work might not be worth much relative to some peers or that the age might not be worth as much as some others in this sense. You can be an Aamir fan or an Akshay Kumar fan but only in one of those cases is the work defensible!

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          • Jay; I know. But you actually ‘truly’ represent your country (in say Asian Games or Olympics though baize sports aren’t played in the latter) only in the amateur events:- that is why I said “Indian” dominance. Anyway I don’t think we are saying dissimilar things actually

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          • Got it

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          • “By the way I completely disagree that Mehra had more ‘sense’ than Desai”-

            I am glad you said this. To add to it, there were lot of things which Desai could do which no one else could- I am reminded of Ajooba where the film would have been far better (though Bachchan at this point was looking quite haggard and so this would have ultimately come in the way of the film’s quality) had Desai directed this than Shashi Kapoor (alongwith that Russian co-director, I can’t recall his name)…Desai had already made a foray in the quasi-fantasy genre in the form of the very enjoyable Dharam Veer. One keeps thinking that a certain speed was missing from the narrative in Ajooba, that certain lightness of touch (which is also there in Shakespeare’s works) which characterised Desai’s work.

            BTW I have always found the opening credit sequence of Suhaag quite disturbing- especially those scenes where a hoodlum forces liquor down the gullet of the young boy (who later grows up into Bachchan) setting up a vicious chain of events leading upto him turning into an alcoholic.

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          • Suhaag is my favorite Desai film. Also a singular one in his work inasmuch as he never made such a dark film (by his standards) before or after. He also revisits Parvarish here in certain ways.

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          • Saurabh, That kind of interest in you is more an exception than the rule. You have interest in cinema so you are prepared to delve a bit more. But how many in your age group across all strata of society will just watch a movie for entertainment. Not many indulge in analysis while seeing a movie. I mean I love Satyams readings but how many truly read a movie like him or you for that matter. And Thats where I feel if you ask a youngster to check out AAA , he will just LOL at that scene..And Didnt that happen in this blog too where someone said that scene is funny….

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          • “BTW why do I feel that you aren’t debating in good faith”

            This is very common on this blog, anybody who doesnt’ agree with your views are dishonest and don’t have good faith. Bachhan fans uses this for just about everything, Get over it.

            If I say Mehra films had more sense the Desai films, what’s bad faith in it? Specially when I also said that Desai films are my type of films…

            I mean by that logic aren’t all bachhan fans dishonest and have bad faith when it comes to SRK, I mean just read all the comments of bachhan fans on anything related to SRK, or any star just about.

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          • I think Saurabh probably had your ‘circus’ comment in mind. I’d say in general that we can engage in all sorts of comments but we always say more than we intend to and we give ourselves away. Certainly to the careful reader. On the rest I’d say that’s just untrue. SRK tend to be ideological warriors far more than fans of most other stars and hence they are more likely to pursue certain kinds of arguments. I’ve expanded on this at length before and won’t repeat things here. But certain arguments are framed unfairly if not absurdly and to this extent one can establish certain correlations.

            The other thing to say here is that there can be polarized arguments that nonetheless respect the facts and those where the facts become inconvenient and are substituted with fiction. Or simply ignored. What’s a good example? The fact that SRK fans disappear en masse when it’s not OSO or CE and suddenly reappear and pretend that nothing happened between those two films. Or as long as he gets a big benchmark number suddenly no questions ought to be asked about the past. But also in other ways if one is a Sachin fan and the other person is a Sehwag fan the two are not comparable. Hopefully one can establish such a ‘fact’ right away. I’ve always said that the Bachchan-SRK debates were absurd for this reason. However if one is going to then bring in multistarrers and ‘a different age’ and so on once again the basic facts become problematic. We don’t say that Bradman had it easy when he got his unbeatable records! We don’t say Pele played in a different age. Those points are valid in that stratosphere. So if you’re comparing Pele to Maradona maybe that debate comes up but not if you’re comparing him with Muller! I won’t keep adding to these examples but this is a point I’ve repeatedly made. The issue is not anyone’s views. It is about the attempt to falsify the historical record and/or create frames that are inherently dishonest. It’s in short a political move. These are tactics that are used in politics all the time. Now why this happens so much with SRK’s base is also something I’ve analyzed at length before. I’ve also connected it to a larger New Indian moment where I think the same things have happened across the board.

            My short point here would simply be that sometimes the burden of history rightly or wrongly is crushing. But you don’t just wish it away. You don’t just invent alternate histories. You struggle with it as best you can and to the extent of your abilities. But this requires a certain growing up (which is not always about literally growing up!). Ultimately whatever happens or does not happen certainly does not depend on what people argue about on a blog. Once Abhishek was doing very well, he was getting the choicest projects in every sense, the anti-Abhishek folks were still saying the same stuff, then he got into a different situation, he had serious failure, he’s been trying to make his way back ever since but we all see the consequences. Either way it’s not about what you and I ‘debate’ about. The reality is there for everyone to see as are its consequences. Whether it’s SRK or Abhishek or Bachchan Sr or anyone else. The facts have to be accepted precisely when they’re most inconvenient. But sure, one can certainly get through a lifetime living in some alternate universe!

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  18. Bachchan1 to 10 Says:

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    • Bachchan1 to 10 Says:

      Radhe Radhe is Abhishek’s song in the film. As said by SRK above.

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      • what is this song? satakli? But yeah Shahrukh says it’s Abhishek’s intro.

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        • if it’s satakli he’ll probably have sharabi too. Or at least be a main part of the latter.

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          • Now that I think about it, I don’t think Sharabi will be on Abhi. There’s a line it which says I don’t drink 364 days out 365 and there’s a reference to 6 pack. So I’m assuming this song is on Sonu Sood.

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          • LOL, this would add to the craziness. the sharabi in the film doesn’t have the sharabi song! It might be that he has it but then others join in too. Either way in Farah Khan’s absurd world anything’s possible though I don’t know if even she’s crazy enough to give Sood the whole song!

            by the way you seem to be examining who has what song a bit too microscopically! I can understand the Abhishek fan being interested in his footage but you?!

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          • The song is about why are people calling me sharabi? So i assume it will be on somebody who is not sharabi.

            I was looking forward to this song being on Abhi.

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          • you might be right, I’m not familiar with the lyrics anyway. Just heard snippets of every song.

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  19. “..Shirish Kunder is most talented in their family ..” Based on which work?

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  20. Jaan-E-Maan had wonderful music and lyrics. one of the best ever by Anu Maklik. And a couple of very good picturization of songs. But the film after a while was unwatchable. I found ‘ Hey Baby’ and the first half of Om Shanti Om more engaging and entertaining.

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  21. I think I’ve said it before and I see too many comments that Farah Khan is huge fan of Manmohan Desai which is completely incorrect. Farah has always mentioned her inspiration and songs are from Nasir Hussain. Infact Main Hoon Na was supposed to have only Nasir Hussain’s song but just 1 year before someone stole the idea and released a film with same concept (Dil Vil Pyar Vyar with RD Burman’s songs).

    Main Hoon Na and OSO are more closer to Yaadon ki baraat, Hum Kisise Kum Naheen and Zamane Ko Dikhana Hai than AAA, Naseeb, Mard, Coolie, if you think about it.

    Only time Farah had mentioned is during OSO 30 star studded song which she claimed to get the idea from Manmohan Desai’s Naseeb John, Jaani, Janardhan song where lot of huge stars make appearance. But apart from that, there is nothing in common.

    I would love to see someone point me out any interviews where Farah claims she is inspired as Manmohan Desai as director. Strangely, everyone from SRK to Abhishek to media keeps repeating her next Manmohan Desai except Farah herself.

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    • “I grew up watching Manmohan Desai’s films and wanted to reinvent the genre with modern sensibilities.”

      http://www.thehindu.com/features/cinema/my-first-break-farah-khan/article434401.ece

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      • I don’t see her saying that outside of Desai she has no influence. We can definitely trace Desai in her see she approach, but simultaneously I also see in her some Baz Lurhmann. No wonder The West used her for “Bombay Dreams”. One just has to see “Lovely” song to realize this gift in her.

        In a like vein, anyone using an iPhone had grown up with Jobs’ influence. But we have other influences also, some have a lot of Modi in them, some have a little of Nehru & Gandhi. We are a sum total of all these influences. The sum total of Farah’s influences have made Farah a PERSON on whom Bollywood’s biggest star has bet a lot of money on.

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      • By the end of Desai, his stream was running dry. If that mindless Desai could sell today, his son would still be churning out block busters.

        Audience have evolved, there is a new mindlessness today. But beyond and above those mere mindless movie makers is someone like Farah who blends spoofs, with intelligence and attitude in a Desai like accessible platform. Desai was your grandmother’s jalopy, Farah is the cooler and more reliable modern speedster.

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        • you could currently win the blog’s junk commenter award. Basically the poster with the maximum number of junk comments.

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          • Satyam

            Civility prevents me from saying “ditto” to you. But apart from civility, I know my comments about YOU are as worthless to you as your comments about me are to me. Why waste time ?

            We disagree, what is new ? But do you have be so abnoxiously rude and uncivilized ? Don’t you have a responsibility to set the tone of inclusiveness on this blog ?

            Is this blog about opinions or just about agreeing to your delusions ? You cannot, even if your life depended upon it, ever support your positions but you think you are NASA like qualified to express your editorial views on others ?

            Who made you NASA ? Your delusions ? Please restrain from being so rude.

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          • You know what I’m referring to. Let’s not pretend to be so confused about things. Even if Z selectively shares your confusion!

            On the rest nothing uncivil about it. Sometimes a thing must be called by its proper name.

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          • So you think, Desai went with a Bang and not with a whimper ? Prove it ?

            So you think Ketan Desai is still a force in production ? Give me evidence

            If not then you should apologize

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          • “So you think, Desai went with a Bang and not with a whimper ? Prove it ?

            So you think Ketan Desai is still a force in production ? Give me evidence”

            Bandra,

            at this point you will be tagged with being “dishonest” and your arguments are in “bad faith”…

            Problem with this blog and about 3 to 4 people is you have to be a “yes men” to their views and opinions, any alter opinion and you’re being dishonest, bad faith, etc…(basically praise anything bachhan and defame anything SRK/HR/ETC and you’re in catagory of being honest).

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          • the problem is that the dishonest don’t like being called out! It’s not more complicated than that! Of course one wonders what you’re doing here when you see so many ‘problems’! I think one’s actions speak louder than one’s words!

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          • some of my favorite critics are those who don’t agree with some of my favorite cinematic choices. It’s not about agreement or disagreement but the honesty of a position. Not that the ‘dishonest’ can tell the difference.

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          • Z

            As you can see, once again a personal attack even when explicitly asked to respond to specific questions.

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          • “Of course one wonders what you’re doing here when you see so many ‘problems’! I think one’s actions speak louder than one’s words!”

            Without peple like me, bandra, apex, etc, this blog would be dead, i mean how long the blog would last with you making false/delusional claims, yakuza posting on what bachhan was 30 to 40 years ago, etc???

            Let’s say it other way, make this blog only about bachhan and see what happens, you need SRK/HR/Salman/Aamir…

            Just go thru the blog and see what kind of comments or number of comments you get on bachhans posts (where is yudh post? it died after 1 week).

            Like I told you before, change it up little, try being fair once in a while. Biryaani is not the only food in the world, there’s pav bhaji, pizza, hot dog, etc..

            Everybody has different opinion, views, choices, tastes… Once you get this, you’ll understand people are not dishonest, they have opinions which doesn’t match your delusional views.

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          • Z the site would last without you. The site would last without me. The blog itself would not exist without Satyam setting it up and maintaining it. You don’t owe him anything, but you can at least acknowledge he is giving you a place to comment. The idea that you are guys are running the “show” – well it amuses me but you can think what you may…you can think what you want

            But put it this way

            You have made 618 comments
            Bandra 519 comments

            Out of 184,578 you guys have contributed 0.6% of comments in the lifetime of SS.

            For people who like science and maths…you tell me what this means.

            Without the 99% of other comments, the site would be dead. Not because of your combined pocket change contribution of 0.6%.

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          • the site could last without anyone. Actually it doesn’t even need me. Technology doesn’t need a human beyond a point. Ha! Seriously though while anyone could leave the blog would certainly be poorer without some folks. I don’t include myself in this list.

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          • Once again logic has to be unpacked a bit for the likes of you because you either don’t get it or pretend not to. If one goes to a blog regularly and one also says at the same time that the blog offers nothing and that there’s no diversity in views and so on well two elementary questions present themselves:

            1)If there’s nothing to attract one why is one there in the first place?
            2)If one is there to simply hear one’s own voice why doesn’t one hear one’s voice somewhere else?

            I can understand a migrant who doesn’t like a country but who might not be able to go back or someplace else for various practical reasons. But surely there’s no such dependency where a blog is concerned? if one feels it’s a Bachchan affair (or Aamir affair or whatever) and one also doesn’t agree with the views expressed on these figures and one also has no respect for some of the folks who on the blog except for those who agree with one I think anyone would ask the question I did! It follows from what you state, not what I’m asserting!

            Finally if I were everything you think I am nothing forces me to suffer people like yourself. ‘Why are you here?’ is then a question that can be turned around even in this sense! If I just want one kind of view or value one thing why are you or Bandra NRI here (I won’t include Apex here because he has nothing to do with you..)? So you are flatly contradicting yourself in terms of what you’re claiming. Of course this is par for the course for many SRK fans but in any case you aren’t contradicting anything I’ve said.

            A blog is what everyone makes it. It’s not just one person or even a small group of people. But speaking for myself I have called out people for bad faith even when this blog didn’t exist. In fact I would be far more tough once. So if anything I am kinder here on this blog. If you’ve followed me long enough as you claim you should know this. And even speaking for some others who I’ve known for long they haven’t said anything different at any other point.

            As for ‘opinions’ yes there are a dime a dozen. Luckily one doesn’t have to value each one the same way! You’re here, I’m not on your blog so I think you’d be a bit silly to argue otherwise! Because you will have been the one chasing ‘delusion’ not me!

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          • Typical jayshah comment, take some things out, add some things and you have a whole new meaning.

            did you forget to include the part hwere i said “Let’s say it other way, make this blog only about bachhan and see what happens, you need SRK/HR/Salman/Aamir…”

            Agree 100% on “The blog itself would not exist without Satyam setting it up and maintaining it.”

            “Without the 99% of other comments, the site would be dead. Not because of your combined pocket change contribution of 0.6%.”

            Not bad for a group of people who likes to down play a movie that makes over 200 crore but get all excited about abhis flop which barely makes 20 crore, i guess it goes in line.

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          • Jay

            I don’t like to talk of myself or someone else. But your logic has a flaw.

            I have been here two/three months approx. This blog has been here way longer than that.

            Hence the deception in your stats is once again the baseline

            Use accurate baseline the results will be different.

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          • Actually Jay is exactly correct. If the claim is that the blog would be dead without folks like yourself or Z (which was Z’s claim) one wonders why it wasn’t so before you showed up?! Elementary no?!

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          • Satyam

            I don’t want to get into if, and but.

            Jay’s stats is deceptive. I have stated why that is the case (period).

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          • Bandra here you again.
            You are completely “obvious” in many senses.
            I can put any stat up to challenge what Z said. Any.
            The point though – which I am sure by general consensus would be true is without YOU, Z and ALEX this site would still be alive.
            It’s funny how you did not “challenge” Z’s statement but came after mine. His was with NO SCIENCE. Mine had SCIENCE yet you challenged the ACCURACY of mine.

            At the end of the day….this is the reality: Whether I choose the lifetime of SS…or the period you are here…or one day…does it change Z’s statement. Or is it that you believe in his statement?

            Because when someone says something like he did and I challenge it and then someone challenges me it suggests the last person does not believe my statement and is more inclined to believe Z.

            I can see the position you have taken.

            It’s the one where your EGO has got the better of you.

            Do you sit your life wondering about science?

            Imagine you in politics. Your chancellor comes to you and tells you India’s unemployment has risen. You will blow your brains out. You will say “let me see the figures”, “how was it calculated”, “it’s all wrong” because your position always is India’s unemployment has fallen. It’s clear as night and day.

            You have the gall to say Farah signed India’s biggest superstar (without Science) and challenge everything and every site everyone puts up to say Bachchan was the biggest of them all! Your “position” is clear.

            The point I was making to Z yesterday was everyone contributes. 2-3 people do not make a site. It’s a collective, in fact every person whether 1 comment or 1’000s makes a contribution.

            Which leads me to my next point. Everyone makes a contribution would surely be something a guy who “supports minorities” thoroughly would agree with? I didn’t follow the politic arguments you had but was drawn by one comment Rocky made and at the time I thought it was harsh. He said.

            I quote “Minority ? really ? issi baat ka toh dar hai Bandar….the day people like you are in majority anywhere ( Kashmir, Iraq)..waha kya haal kartey ho Minority ka , everyone knows !!!”

            I thought it was harsh but now agree. You have a tremendously big EGO and would be power hungry if given power. You fight minority causes yet you have the audacity to NOT challenge Z when he makes a dumb claim and come after me where I make a claim where everyone contributes. From the warm, neutral voice, your colours have been shown.

            And to quote someone else…An Jo…for my last comment…

            “I am ending this here, you can have the last word and say whatever the hell you want and walk proudly toward your imaginary victory..I don’t want to be that guy who was brought down to a level of you-know-what and then beat down with experience..I hardly need a character certificate from people like you and your ilk who can’t get their assess off the moral high-ground horse…”

            Seek whatever victory you want! Go for it! You are in a world in your mind where you are walking towards victory everyday with your thoughtful scientific interventions. Challenging every theory out there….yet throwing curve balls like Aamir was desperate when he made Lagaan, Deepika/SRK are all time Bollywood pairing, Abhishek could steal the show like Johnny Lever, Big B (any evidence of his stardom is not scientifically proven) –YET Farah goes to Bollywood’s biggest star for her films, Chennai Express’s success is stunning due to the nature of the Tamilness in the film, interpret Darr/DDLJ/KKHH/MHN as those director’s best “efforts” as they did not have any other successes when clearly ONE did not mean or say that……ETC.ETC.ETC.

            Your one challenge to me is to throw trending theory in my face. The funny thing is…it is a theory. Not a fact. It’s got assumptions, you can challenge them. Make them better. Don’t sit there on your armchair and just say it…do something about it.

            But your tactical positions are clear. You don’t need to endorse your honourable, honest positions no more. I am not naïve enough to “believe” it. The angle you come from like I said is the guy throwing mud at me wrapped in cotton wool. The “friend” who is actually the “enemy”. You are Aishwariya in my life, the same Aishwariya in Khakee was to Akshay! Not the Aishwariya I want!

            Satyam – do let Bandra have his victory march. His Tour de force. His sprint to the finish. Let him tear me to shreds. It’s not like it has happened before.
            And let Z think he is THE MAN! With a name like Z…he is the LAST MAN metaphorically in the alphabet.

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          • Jay

            My statement to you was not about Z . Neither was my statement about whether I agree or disagree with Z. As an aside let me say that personally I don’t like a discussion about me or my contribution (whether it exists or not). But let’s us not (as usual) take this discussion away from the REAL issue.

            Your stats are wrong. That is what I stated. Let me add that you fudge numbers so consistingly that it appears intentional.

            Also while we are NOW TALKING (see your previous comment) about it, let me also state that also your sickening hate for minorities is clear.

            Victory lap ? I don’t need one, I never see discussion in that context. It is not about winning or losing. But, since I don’t like running away from an open discussion (regardless of how the cookie crumbles), let me also add that Z’s words are being twisted to make it appear he was attemting to take credit for himself (and a few others). It is very evident that Z was simply making a plea to make this blog more tolerant, i.e. more inclusive. That is how I read it, and if you had some integrity, you would address THAT ISSUE rather than make Z look like some ego hungry person. If Z was on a ego trip would he be here ? As I said before, Z seems (taking poetic liberty) Jesus like in the DEN OF THIEVES attempting to overturn the tables. You are diverting the issue by paining Z into an ego maniac (clearly he is not that). Sadly you are not just diverting but once again using fake science.

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          • “let me also state that also your sickening hate for minorities is clear.”

            With the rest of your statement you’re merely being dishonest. Par for the course. But this statement is strongly objectionable and I will not stand for it. Attacking someone on communal grounds just because you don’t like what they’re saying or insinuating this sort of thing is completely unacceptable. I hope you won’t repeat this because I will simply not stand for it. I am not going to bother defending Jay because he doesn’t need it. But this kind of attack is beyond the pale. You call him other names, I let it stand. Everyone gets carried away once in a while on this score (though not Jay). I still let it go. But it’s firstly a bit amusing that you seem to hate him more than anyone else because of the analysis he offers on the box office. This is the Aamir thing. You guys can never forgive anyone who is seen as deconstructing SRK! Now Jay of course isn’t even doing this. He’s saying the same things in every case, no matter whose film it is. But it’s the SRK fans who take the greatest offense (not surprisingly). But I’ve noticed your attacks on him are the most intemperate. In any case all of that is one thing and saying what you just have is quite another. Again it would be easy to disprove this in a second with respect to Jay but to try and defend him on this score would be to dignify the claim. There is no ‘argument’ to be had here because it’s utter nonsense. And I am politically sensitive enough on most grounds to know this stuff, I certainly know how ‘communalism’ works, I’ve even had that charge thrown against myself in the past (by another SRK fan no less!). I’m afraid that you’ve revealed nothing more than your own mindset in these matters. But again all of this isn’t up for debate. No one will be accused of communalism here just because they have different choices or different perspectives from someone. End of story.

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          • “let me also state that also your sickening hate for minorities is clear”

            Bandra.

            What have I said or done for you to label me in this way?

            It’s one thing to call me scum (I seriously don’t mind, I’ve been called worse!) but another to label me in this way.

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          • Jay

            Just answer, DO YOU SEE WHY YOUR STATS ARE FRAUDULENT ?

            Forget Z, forget Minorities just focus on your fakery.

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          • Satyam

            You have assembled these sick nuts under your umbrella. You support them. You enable and encourage them.

            Please stop your pretense. You are one of them.

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          • Bandra, I hope you won’t force me to take more drastic action. All this has to stop. NOW.

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          • Jay

            Why then in an issues purely about your fake science you bring in Minorities ?

            You should just focus on the issues.

            Once again why not focus on your stats ?

            If at all, you can also talk about Z plea about inclusiveness (because the stats were a response to that).

            Why jump again and again but not address the real issue ?

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          • Satyam: This guy’s last comment has pretty much crossed all lines of decency- he had already abused Jay for no reason whatever and now he is explicitly accusing you on communal grounds (I would have laughed at this charge, for all sorts of reasons, of his had it not been so disgusting). But apart from some of these repulsive statements, I don’t know how could someone operate in such bad faith- how easily this bit has been forgotten that throughout the election discussions you were pretty much supporting this same guy everywhere when it came to Modi and the communal issues

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          • Saurabh

            I laugh at how predictable you are.

            The issue is stats here.

            BTW Satyam support my socialist cause (maybe), not my inclusiveness (Vis a vis the Minorities).

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          • Bandra.
            I’m sure, I’m willing to believe, you are a decent person. I can’t say much to your “online” persona and it’s probably best for the blog that we avoid each other.
            You don’t like me, that much is obvious.

            But a line must be drawn when offense is to the extent of rape, racist name calling, religious attacks or things of this nature. It’s a personal attack and I prefer not to deal with you on the grounds of this. However, I don’t wish to see you not here, just stay out of my way and vice versa.

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          • Bandra NRI, hope you’re reading this. This is the guy you’ve been calling all sorts of names.

            Anyway whatever I said earlier stands.

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          • Satyam

            Of course that is smart. He does not want his fake science being challenged.

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    • Excellent comment vis a vis Nasir Hussein but Farah also has some Desai, not the mindless Desai, but Desai iOS 8

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    • “Main Hoon Na and OSO are more closer to Yaadon ki baraat, Hum Kisise Kum Naheen and Zamane Ko Dikhana Hai than AAA, Naseeb, Mard, Coolie, if you think about it.”

      Agree, even the way she dresses her stars are in line with Nasir Hussain films which had stars in trendy cloths of that time (I mean more glossy).

      I will say Farah is influenced little by Desai but more by Hussain, I think.

      Anant Mahadevan was the one who stole that idea of takin all RD songs.

      Farah is also more into RD songs than LP. Again more in line with Hussain films than Desai.

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  22. @Bandra .. @Z … Why don’t you guys open your own blog and write whatever you wants to ? Blog sphere is for like minded people (only like minded can do healthy arguments) .. In this blog you guys are odd men out .. no idea why you want to stay here. Open your own site/blog and spread love there .. my 2 cents for you.

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  23. Wowww .. Great writeup on Manmohan Desai at Bachchan’s Blog today .. http://srbachchan.tumblr.com/post/97821074301

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    • Lol!
      Satyam shot ke teen bandar!
      Dont suffer from any delusions. You drive away more sane people than attract like minded crazies to the blog.
      Dont be delusional. Blog has flourished INSPITE of you.

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      • Apex can be tolerable when he takes his meds and is not being a poseur but Bandra and Z are plain insufferable.

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      • OMG after long time out and coming to this blog,fanatics fans are still fighting who is asli bollywood icon…

        lets take of bachan era: dominated from 70s to 80s

        srk: dominance from early 90s to 2008.

        bachan was finished by 1988

        srk is declining since 2008.CE was biggest fluke and D3 & Kick has destroyed CE and now srk is well beaten but their fans are still thinking he is bollywood and since bollywood began its all about srk….forget the films like sholay,maugle azam and mother india..oops btw when these films were making history i think srk was either in his nappies or on an egg shell,either way…srk and bachan era are long gone…bollywood is all changed where besides srk films ,othe ractor are doing so well that in a few years we shall have several superstars running and claiming bollywoog kings..

        to all srk fans and bachan fans stop fighting because both of your icon stars are finito..lol

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    • absolutely wonderful post.

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    • I just read this post… everything was good until Bachchan called out that Manmohan Desai committed suicide when even his family has never mentioned it. Obviously everyone knows its a suicide but as per official records, he might have been leaning and slipped and fell down or whatever but officially its not called as suicide till now as there was no suicide note.

      Not sure, why anyone want to call it out as suicide when no one was around to see it, neither there was a suicide note.

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  24. IMHO, its mighty pretentious of anyone to think that this blog runs primarily because of them. I personally have only posted in two blogs, ie NG and SS. Lets just say that one of them (ie NG) is a deadzone as of now. People of like-minded persuasions from there moved to their own little universes. SatyamShot is one such watering hole that attracts some of us like-minded people. I have many many political disagreements with Satyam, but can never accuse him of being disrespectful or agenda-driven. It’s his eventual pragmatism that always cuts across, whatever be the underlying politics. So, if anyone finds that their personal persuasion is not being reflected here, despite their best efforts to change the mindset of other previously existing members, the writing ought to be on the wall for them.. Aage bado bhai, manzilein aur bhi hain.

    Anyway, I just got back from Daawat-e-Ishq. This one is a sure shot winner. Light, breezy fun film. Parineeti nails it, with great support from Kher and Kapoor. Had me craving for Biryani and Kababs in the end. Gotta go grab some now…

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  25. Some folks here claim to be neutral. I believe them.

    I also believe that Count Dracula was completely vegetarian.

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  26. It’s funny how bachhan fans are completely ignoring the main part of my argument which is:

    “Let’s say it other way, make this blog only about bachhan and see what happens, you need SRK/HR/Salman/Aamir…”
    And Jay, for your science, add up number of post for HNY/PK/BangBang against Yudh/All is Well and see what you get.

    NG was dead before likeminded people moved on because on that blog too anybody who had different views from the group of 3 to 4 people, would be banned. I believe some guy name Omar was the moderator (I must say it was lousy moderation) and owned by Rohit?

    In that sense, this blog by Satyam is much better because he hardly bans anybody or deletes any comments no matter how much somebody like me disagrees with him.

    As far as rajen1 is concerned, can somebody display his last 100 comments and see what value it adds to this blog?

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    • During its heydays in 2006-2010, NG was a very vibrant site, with contributions from people with many different viewpoints. However, it was commercially driven, and technically speaking it was not even a blog. Ultimately, the debates there got so intense, that like-minded groups of people decided to splinter into their own blogs. The owner’s decision to start a membership fee probably backfired as well. Your experience with NG must’ve been after 2010-11. There really weren’t that many contributors left over there after 2011.
      I cannot speak for Satyam, but clearly, this blog is not a commercial enterprise. So, I am not sure that volume of comments even matters too much. After all, whats the point of scanning through non-sensical viewpoints?

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  27. Fuel to fire 🙂

    ” On another note, according to sources in the film trade, Abhishek was paid close to Rs 10 crore for Happy New Year, because the makers were desperate to have him on the project. Story goes, they badly needed a second lead for the film and were hoping to cast a prominent star in the part since they’d already filled out the other roles with Sonu Sood, Boman Irani and Vivaan Shah, who aren’t exactly above-the-marquee names. They famously approached John Abraham first, who declined. When they went to AB Jr, his Dhoom co-star John reportedly advised Abhishek to demand a sizeable salary because the part, after all, was merely “padding” in a Shah Rukh Khan vehicle.”

    http://www.openthemagazine.com/article/voices/dr-smart-aleck-fails-to-impress

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    • Actually none of the claims here is true. I doubt Abhishek asked for very much here at all if anything. Secondly John’s name was possibly thrown around at an older stage (some years ago) and it was for one of the other roles possibly. In any case I know Farah Khan has wanted to work with Abhishek for the longest time. Even when she didn’t have a clear project in mind. But he certainly took a long time to agree to this one. Whether this was a wise move or not remains to be seen!

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      • Agree, John Abraham was offered the body builder role which Sonu Sood is doing. No one would be in right mind to offer him non-english speaking character of Nandu Bhide, Abhishek was always the first choice.

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  28. Lovely -calls for ‘partial boycott /MORTATORIUM’

    This is in continuation to my post in the TOI Deepika cleavage gate!

    Thanks to all those who supported deepika there and for deepikas noble thoughts and objections

    Now as a sign of RESPECT & SOLIDARITY —
    Those supporters are urged to boycott this ‘lovely’ song by deepika!

    Or atleast have a partial moratorium of some sorts

    Those who can’t resist it, can watch it but CLOSE their eyes or LOOK THE OTHER way when deepikas cleavage or other body parts are (accidentally) displayed!!!

    TOI SHOULD HAVE BANNED THS SONG AND NOT GIVEN IT ANY NEWS SPACE UNLESS DEEPIKA REQIESTED THEM TO DO SO !!

    I for my part, am resorting to a PARTIAL MORATORIUM (for a few days ) & won’t watch it during that duration

    Let’s all support deepika in this endeavour plz …

    Ps : in continuation to my supportive post in the toi deepika cleavage gate thread…

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  29. The song seems to be a copy of something I had heard before but cannot remember it now. Having said the song is shot spectacularly.

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  30. Utkal Mohanty Says:

    This sure is a misstep for Deepika. Unlike Chennai Express where she was someone real with a lot of charm or in Ramleela where her erotic energy cam from within , this is very plastic, superficil and a put on. She is trying too hard to be sexy. Leaves me cold.

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  31. SRK and Abhishek dancing on Dhoom 3 and the dialogue that follows..

    SRK: 10 second se soch raha hun me dhoom ke gaane me kya kar raha hoon
    Abhishek: shah, main 10 saal se soch raha hun me dhoom me kya kar raha hoon

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  32. One thing i’d like to add is.. the songs are looking good after the video. Lovely song looked so bad on audio but after seeing the video couple of times, this song will stand out in the movie. It is not a simple tune like Sheika ki jawani but the tune being so different might work for it. Deepika looking so hot will obviously help the song.

    So far, all the 3 songs are looking good after the videos are out. Indiawaale is sure shot hit song. Manwa laage is good as its narrative and this one might become hit as well. So, looking forward to seeing more videos of the songs.

    But if you ask me to review songs only audio, then they are not so great, the videos are helping the songs, IMO.

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  33. At the start of Kamili song, Abhishek ushers in SRK, perhaps to introduce DP. Now we have seen a similar act by Uday Chopra in Dhoom. But Abhishek takes the Uday Chopra to a another level. He gives it a star appeal.

    Indeed we are seeing a different, and a more natural Abhishek.

    Also we can see from this song that he has at least a bigger role in this ensemble than Vivan and Sonu.

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  34. Here it is that Dhoom song at Slam NJ tour..

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  35. Am duplicating myself..but what the heck..Lungi dance by all at Slam NJ and Abhi towers everyone..

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    • heard from someone that his energy was crazy during his act and some of the other stuff. Have seen him on the Unforgettables and I can believe it.

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    • Good to see Abhi having fun.

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      • Did you watch this?

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      • I like the way he eggs him on for Dhoom 4

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        • There have always been rumors of Aditya himself directing a Dhoom. Now if he does that with SRK then that will be big.

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          • I think Dhoom4 will have Salman, unless YRF feels that Kick already displayed salman in that avatar.

            If D4 is made, it will have either Salman or SRK.

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          • I personally think that the franchise is exhausted. D3 to me was an attempt to redirect into something more meaningful.

            It will now require someone with steller vision and deep pockets to step in and completely bowl us over again. BOLLYWOOD sadly has a lot of one trick ponies but very few who can marshall the needed requirements. You need a Mehboob Khan, K Asif, Raj Kapoor or a Ramesh Sippy (at their prime). The only one who can come close to fit that bill is Aditya Chopra. He has the vision, the means and the ability to handle that scale.

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          • can you imagine D4 with srk,he will look proper lallu in it…stick with romantic films…imagine 50 year old running after 24 year,look it both ways for srk…he will look stupid either way…

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  36. @iHrithik The 10pack #bangbangdare @iamsrk show us a pic doing ur fav ab exercise!all want 2 know which 1 it is! U hv 3 days! Qabool?

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    • @iamsrk @ihrithik #bangbangdare my fav ab workout is to do all exercises. A Dirty gym/ Prashant 2 help & Farah to scream. http://bit.ly/1uj8u6s

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      • Wow! No doubt that there was some final touch up of the abs but SRK definitely does have at the least an outline of an 8-pack. The one shot of his back looks disgusting though. But kudos to him for taking on the haters and proving them wrong…unless the entire video is the work of his Red Chillies VFX

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        • It’s not an 8 pack.. it’s not even a 6 pack.. won’t say more..!

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          • Either you don’t know what abs are or you’re just a blind hater! I understand not liking SRK but your view of SRK are no different than the comments of some people here on the Bachchans!

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          • “won’t say more..!”

            Of course you won’t, because you truly don’t have anything to say. Your hate for SRK gets the best of you each and everytime.

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          • Yeah agree, it is not 8-pack or 6-pack, it is 0-pack.. checkout this new video 😀

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        • “unless the entire video is the work of his Red Chillies VFX”

          hmm, this would be an easy reason but than haters would have to give credit to SRK VFX company.

          I have a lot of respect for people who works out to get a body like this. It’s not easy, I go to gym at least 5 to 6 times a week and can’t get a decent body besides getting slim. People who gets body like what SRK has, requires a lot of time in gym, patience, working on it religiously, giving up food you like, etc… Not for lazy and weak people.

          It’s okay to hate SRK, or HR or Salman or whoever but let’s not get silly about it.

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          • “People who gets body like what SRK has, requires a lot of time in gym, patience, working on it religiously”

            Take advance steroids for 2 weeks and do little Gym as per instructions .. you will have 14 packs 🙂

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          • Fitness and these false packs are two different things. Bollywood most fit man Akshay Kumar not relying on such stunts .. He do work out at Gym most since many-many years .. If these packs/abs are so natural to develop, he would have the first one to have these .. but can you guess how many packs he have ?

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          • “Take advance steroids for 2 weeks and do little Gym as per instructions .. you will have 14 packs ”

            If it was that easy, Abhi would have done it 10 years ago, everybody would do it. What’s the point of spending hours and hours in gym?

            Like I said, i go to gym 5 to 6 days a week and see how some of these people work out. Takes a lot of effort. Not for lazy or weak…

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          • “Bollywood most fit man Akshay Kumar not relying on such stunts .. He do work out at Gym most since many-many years .. If these packs/abs are so natural to develop, he would have the first one to have these .. but can you guess how many packs he have ?”

            I’ve been going to gym for over 10 year and I have only 1 pack (gut).

            It depends on what you want with your body and how hard you want to work for it. Somebody who does training geared towards biceps only will have biceps that stands out, rest of his body won’t.

            Akshay works out to stay slim, going to gym doesn’t mean he is doing weight lifting.

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        • One thing to clearly notice is SRK body is still slim, he is just ripped. unlike the ones who takes steroids, you can tell right away because they start bulking up so fast.

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      • This HARDLY matters because this is/will be a shallow, fluffy film and that’s why ALL the supposed HARD WORK on the body is UNNECESSARY and ridiculous; more ridiculous is the fact that the fans or even the audience consider this a barometer of ‘effort’!!!

        But what can you say about a film industry that ‘envisions’ a Milkha Singh with ‘n’ packs??

        Aside, why is there a shadow between the neck and body…No lengthy single shot or a tracking shot where he is exercising..

        Aesthetically, whether this is real or digitized, there is NO doubt that this looks ugly; plain ugly. It is as though he got pregnant, then got stretch marks, and then the abs — all in that order..

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        • watch manwa song

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        • I was commenting on the effort needed to get this kind of body but based on your comment “Ugly, plain ugly, pregnant, digitized, stretch mark, etc…” No surprise on where you’re going with it.

          Try spending 30 minutes in gym…

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          • I am not going anywhere with it. Once in a while you guys need to come out of your conspiracy theories. Are you seriously telling me SRK is looking good here? Don’t you see those stretch marks? He is looking ugly here and those dime-nipples and waxed chest are furthering this grossness..

            The man is blessed with a natural lean body-type. He looks good as-is. Why be counter-productive? How does this add any value to this film? This is COMPLETELY a superficial aspect of this film.

            Hrithik Roshan is going around daring people or whatever for his film. Him I can at least understand – a very average actor who relies on his dancing and supposedly Hollywood looks and the urban male/female’s fantasies of being – these are his selling points. SRK? He did very well in his career without the help of these packs!! And this Ajay Devgan? What was the need for his RAMBO body? How does it help? He always was and will always remain a very plain-looking fellow, doesn’t matter whatever packs he gathers. Recently, in a Tamil film, DHANUSH went around showing his ‘packs’.’ I swear to God, it was LITERALLY like seeing a skeleton walking on the roads!! This disease has affected people so badly that their common-sense has gone for a toss!! Don’t they know something called SWOT? This isn’t to insult people based on looks. I infact find it ironic that we have a society that prides itself on things that they have not even worked for and that is plain gifted. But hey, the human brain has been programmed to be attracted to these things and it has been so for centuries.

            Leaving this philosophical discussion aside, nobody is denying that gymming is hard work. But what is the context? I am sure there will be just 1 or 2 scenes in the movie focusing on the street-fighter element. You think these 6 packs are SO essential to those scenes? Isn’t there a contradiction? You are making a movie where pretty much anything goes and for 1 or 2 scenes, you slog out in the gym and then you and I here waste time discussing some vanity stuff that is irrelevant — it is like discussing the quality of paddy when the entire area is suffering from drought!!

            I would say this against ANY actor – Aamir or Abhishek or whoever the heck it is..And it is an irony but this obsession with ‘healthy’ 6-packs is actually a disease..

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          • An Jo

            In that case why just pick on SRK ?

            Don’t wait to get your head in a vise before stating that your position applies to all.

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          • **In that case why just pick on SRK ?

            Don’t wait to get your head in a vise before stating that your position applies to all.**

            Not that there is any discussion with you but I think I am in the HAPPY NEW YEAR thread which stars someone called SRK & the entire discussion EMANATED from SRK’s packs…

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          • Yes we are in a HNY’s thread and yes SRK is the central lead star of this movie. AND YES this all stems from SRK’s 10/12 packs SRK.

            But if you position is so general, should you not have made that clear right off the bat ? Especially YOU with a history of negative comments against SRK. Especially on this blog.

            It is like an known Anti-Semite, after finding himself in a pickle clarifies that what he vented applied to everyone not just Jews.

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          • An Jo, I had put up a link in PK thread where you should see how aamir body looks. I mean he put on like 25 pounds of muscle (clearly steroids). Did you comment on it?

            Don’t look at the photos, a lot of time they’re photoshopped, look at the manwa song to get a better sense of what it really looks, it looks fine. I wish I had that body, but i can’t because i just don’t have that type of drive to workout like that.

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          • ****An Jo, I had put up a link in PK thread where you should see how aamir body looks. I mean he put on like 25 pounds of muscle (clearly steroids). Did you comment on it?***

            So what this is DEEWAR signature scenario now? First comment on Aamir and others and ONLY then talk of SRK? Else one is a certifiable hater?

            I am not sure how else one can make it clear that one is talking of the disgusting ‘trend’ and not a specific person following or not following it. You need to do your homework and check out my comments on AAMIR post D3. I have infamously been called here the President of ‘anti good-looking men.’

            It is a fact that bulged biceps and muscles hardly look attractive on short men. These things look good on tall people. ALL the 3 Khans are short & they look like jokers with these adventures in body-building. Aamir is no exception. The only leeway I can give Aamir is that the original dumbed-down copy of Memento had the Tamil hero bulking up and so they faithfully copied it. In DHOOM3, he played a gymnast and there were a measurable number of scenes that ‘used’ this stuff. I am not sure what is the need for Aamir to bulk up in PK. Once I see the trailers or the film I will know whether it was relevant to the film or not.

            Anyway both of you are proving the whole point I am trying to make true. An utterly insignificant, vain stuff that is comparatively irrelevant to the context of a movie, that is superficial at best, is occupying almost central space in a thread about a multi-starrer movie. And that is being praised and equated with ‘talent’ or something of a barometer for being ‘sincere’ w.r.t. a film and the character being played.

            This GOLD GYM cycle is going to continue. When actors who have been around in the top rung for 25 years fall prey to this stupidity, what else can one expect but that the new crop of ‘actors’ land up in Gold Gym straight from the maternity ward..& this will again be oohed and aahed as a sign of hard-work, inspiration, and other BS..

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          • An Jo

            Let’s do a statistical analysis on your comments.

            IF mostly you have negative comments on SRK, THEN you are a hater.

            If simultaneously we see that you give others a benefit of doubt, but deny the same leeway to SRK, THEN your actions reveal something beyond hate (probably some sickness).

            In today’s age, Facebook and Google have turned such analysis into a reliable science. [edited] No my friend, by now you and your like minded friends are KNOWN COMODTIES. With your likes, dislikes and comments, you HAVE EXPOSED YOURSELF. Years from now this record will hound you, in ways you cannot envision now. Trust me it pays to be decent. I urge you to be decent.

            Statistic is a fine tool. You should learn it.

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          • Bandra NRI, I have edited this comment but I am saying this once again and I am fast losing patience on this — stop giving this communal coloring to everyone who does not like SRK or says anything against him. You did this with Jay and now you’re doing this with An Jo.

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          • Satyam

            Fortunately, your yardstick is your yardstick.

            Given An Jo’s track, DO YOU HAVE AN ALTERNATE VIEW ?

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          • This is not up for debate. That’s one thing. Secondly saying someone is attacking SRK for ‘racial’ reasons (code for religion because it makes absolutely no sense to separate SRK on ‘racial’ grounds from anyone else!) is like saying someone supports him also for the same religious/communal reasons. There’s an elementary dishonesty to such a structure. As if no rational person can ever question SRK on anything except on the terms you think are acceptable. If one deviates from this you level the ‘racist’ (communal) charge at every turn. In my experience those who are guilty of this sort of thinking in the first place are eager to throw this term around at the drop of a hat. But beyond this maybe if you’re supporting SRK to the absurd extremes that you do you are also doing so on the same racist-communal grounds. I’ve expanded on this for the benefit of others. Otherwise I am not ‘debating’ anything. This simply won’t be tolerated. I don’t need to defend Jay or An Jo or anyone else from this charge because this would be to dignify things. But you’re resorting to an elementary political campaign of defamation. When you don’t like the message on SRK you start attacking people this way. And precisely because I know what racism and communalism and so on are really about, precisely because I am very well-versed in how these structures operate at a conscious and unconscious level, precisely because I am quite sensitive to the ‘signs’ of either, that I won’t have these sorts of words simply being thrown about. Once more this ‘explanation’ is for the benefit of others reading this. Otherwise I am absolutely not having any debate with you on this matter. On this blog unfortunately for you this IS the yardstick.

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          • Satyam

            If you don’t want to debate, don’t debate.

            But please don’t make a mockery of a serious issue.

            When love and compassion become a crime, we will explore nuances of that matter too. AT this point no one but someone who would like to shield and enable hate equate hate to love.

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          • satyam,
            its very simple,i have been reading comments both on Z and bandra NRI, in their point of view everyone should like srk and if anyone says otherwise then these srk fans get annoyed.
            anyway what i am trying to say is with attacking people when people dislikes anyone…one solution and that is banned them.

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        • An Jo

          When did you last see depth and substance in a big budget BOLLYWOOD movie ? Hence, IF this does not matter (for the reasons you state) THEN Bollywood does not matter.

          Today, depth and substance is disappearing even from big budget Hollywood. Movies are just for pop entertainment. Movies are commerce. In this environment SRK is the 2nd richest movie star in the world, consequently the biggest in bollywood. What SRK does, MATTERS (period).

          I am inspired. I am more into Akshay Kumar style fitness than into muscle sculpting. I want to forever remain lean and flexible. But for the first time, I am seeing someone lean AND with 10 packs. This had made me rethink, maybe I too can acquire those abs and muscles and remain lean like SRK.

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  37. An apt response !

    This vengeance/ killer instinct is one part of SRK which is superlative and he never shies away of getting even/ settling score. The response seems adequate to HR for fueling reports of fake abs.

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      SRK was out of commission for a long time because of an accident on HNY’s set. Inspite of the setback, he not only recovered but achieved this body. This is truly inspirational.

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      • Absolutly.

        Not just achiving good body but I have a lot of respect for people who are over weight and than goes on strict diet and lose a lot of weight. I have been over-weight just about all of my adult life and i know how hard it is to lose weight and even harder than that, keeping it off.

        Look at Abhi,he doesn’t have any packs but you think he didn’t work hard to get the lean body he has currently? It’s hard, infact very hard. Specially if you’re somebody who doesn’t enjoy going to gym or working out and on top of it loves to eat all type of food.

        There’s an article on rediff or some other site where SRKs trainer stated that this body didn’t happen in a week, they’ve been working on it for 3 years. And it’s not just for HNY.

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    • SRK plays a ‘fight club ‘ guy, I think. So, the muscles, perhaps. IMO his lean body looks stylish withput any muscle build up.

      Wondering why Aamir or anybody else needs to be brought into this HNY discussion.Still let me share from whatever I have read.

      Satya Chaurasia has been training Aamir Khan since Ghulam days, mid- nineties, when Aamir first started gymming for his boxer’s role in tbe film. Satya was from Poona or some such place outside Mumbai. He is said to have initiated Aamir into working on his body. Aamir helped him set up his first gym. All this appered in a Mansworld mag article a nearly a decade back. Chaurasia now has many Bollywood clients.

      Aamir did not bulk up for Dhoom 3; He lost required weight to fit the role of a gymnast. Apparently brought his weight to 65 kg and fat percentage to 10% of body weight, under supervision of his Dr. Dhurandhar, a well-known name.Aamir did look his part in Dhloom 3– lean, not bulky. That was when he has apparently done the almost nude shot for PK– two years back.

      He has talked about gaining weight post Dhoom 3 release, trying to lose it. There is talk of his getting into shape for a wrestler’s role. His short frame does not flatter with a muscled look.

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  38. Satyam: Need separate post for THE movie which will be discussed film next year during World Cup 2015!!

    MS Dhoni – The Untold Story!!!!!!

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    • will do it later. in the meantime everyone should stop commenting on this HNY thread (on this topic). I’ve said this many times before, any topic unrelated to a thread should go in the box office post. After lots of comments on an unrelated topic it’s hard to move everything.

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  39. back in India…

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  40. Amit kumar pandey Says:

    it’s been long enough gap yet they haven’t released new song promos.. less than 20 days for the movie to release!!!!

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  41. “If you are a lover of Hindi cinema, you should watch HNY”
    by Vajir Singh (October 4, 2014)

    Bachchan Jr is back! After delivering two mega-blockbusters in Bol Bachchan and Dhoom 3, Abhishek Bachchan is all set for a hattrick with this year’s Diwali release Happy New Year. Here’s the actor in conversation with Vajir Singh

    Aaj kal khush toh bahut honge aap…

    (Cuts in) Aajkal main…Achcha! (Laughs) Good good, very good beginning for this interview!

    Yes, I am very happy. I am blessed! We have had a fantastic time making this film. It’s been one of the most memorable experiences I have had. On top of that, to get the support of the entire cast for my Kabbaddi team and then have Shah (Shah Rukh Khan) coming to the opening match with the rest of the cast, then us winning the title… At one point, I was disappointed as I couldn’t celebrate. But once the Happy New Year promotions kicked off, I knew the celebration wouldn’t stop. And the recently concluded SLAM! The Tour in USA and Canada was incredible. The experience and the love we were showered with is going to remain with us forever.

    I recently told Farah (Khan) that if there was one thing everyone was sad about it was that the film was finally ending. We grew so used to waking up every morning and saying, ‘OK, have to shoot for Happy New Year’. That’s not going to happen anymore. After Diwali, everyone has to do their own thing. That’s really upsetting!

    It’s been a long time since I did a film where everyone became so tight. Once the film releases, it’s all over. At the trailer launch, I asked Shah why he was looking so upset and he said, ‘The film is not ours anymore.’ I said, ‘kya baat kar rahe hain aap?’ And he said, ‘The film is not ours any more, it’s the audiences’. I don’t think anyone working on the film ever thought of that.

    As you just mentioned, the entire unit was very tight. When there is a lot of positive energy during the shoot, it usually reflects on-screen.

    Absolutely! I remember Shah telling us the night before we started shooting in Dubai, ‘We really have to concentrate off camera and not on camera because if we get it right off camera, it will just reflect on camera.’ I love to work like that, so much so that people have dubbed me a ‘prankster’, which I am not. I just love doing what I am doing. If you’re having fun making a film, it will show and it will translate. And every time you have fun making a film, it will show on screen too. It’s very important, especially for a film like this, because it’s about a team work.

    For someone of his stature, hats-off to Shah for agreeing to be a part of this film. In times when we are making hero-driven films, it is rare to have the gumption to tell the audience that this film is not about me but about us. Honestly, I don’t know if I would have done it, if I were in his position. That shows he is immensely secure being where he is and he has immense faith in Farah as a director.

    When I met him recently, he said that this film belonged to Abhishek…

    (Cuts in) He is being sweet. I believe the film belongs to the entire team. I can’t think of anyone else in these roles. Everyone has lived their characters so well that it’s really difficult to say that this character would have suited some other person better.

    If Shah Rukh says it’s Abhishek’s film, it’s because Shah Rukh is supporting me, Vivaan is supporting me, Boman is supporting me and Sonu is supporting me. That’s what I believe.

    In an interview to us, Farah (Khan) said Mr Amitabh Bachchan was to be cast for your role initially.

    Is that right?

    That’s what she said…

    Achcha… Thanks, Farah. No, I remember Farah spoke to me about Happy New Year when Om Shanti Om had just released. At that time, she wanted dad to play the senior-most character. I didn’t know she had written this part for him. Chalo, I am happy I am doing it.

    It seems you’re all set for a hat-trick of blockbusters and the business of your films is only growing, from Bol Bachchan to Dhoom 3 and now Happy New Year.

    I don’t look at it like that. I don’t think anybody wants to make a flop. You want to make a film that you believe in and that you’re proud of. I would hate to be part of a film where I was not really into the film or I didn’t like the film and did it only because I knew it would be commercially successful. I am happy that the films I am doing and the choices I have been making are the right ones. We work in a commercial medium, and at the end of the day we expect people to buy tickets of our films and watch them. Our duty is to entertain them. I am glad my last two films worked with the audience. We all hope and pray that Happy New Year does too.

    Do you believe that this is the best phase of Abhishek Bachchan’s career?

    No, I don’t believe that. I remember Uday (Chopra), Hrithik (Roshan) and I hadn’t started our careers. It was in the late ’90s and, one day, when we all were at Adi’s (Aditya Chopra) house, we were playing cricket on a Sunday. Shah Rukh used to come and he has always been like an elder brother to us. While he was talking to us, I asked him to name his favourite role so far. I thought he would say Dilwale Dulhania Le Jayenge. But he said the one I am doing right now. He said, ‘Remember one thing for life. Whenever somebody asks you that, your answer should be ‘the one I am doing right now’ is my favourite because if that is not your favourite at that point in time, then you’re not giving your best.’ So, is this the best phase so far? No, my best phase is yet to come. I have to work towards that.

    I don’t want to become complacent. So, at the risk of sounding slightly selfish and arrogant, I think the best is still to come. Yes, I have worked hard and have pushed myself. I have done roles which I was not sure of. When I signed Bol Bachchan, I asked Rohit (Shetty) whether I would be able to do it. I never dreamt I could pull of Bol Bachchan. But he said he had faith in me.

    Even with Happy New Year, I wanted to do it because it’s a great role. But I remember asking Farah, ‘Are you sure?’ She said ‘just go all out, freak out. Believe me, you’ll be fantastic.’ So I am happy with the roles coming my way. I am happy with the work I am doing but I still feel there is so much I can improve on.

    Is it difficult to play two different characters in one film?

    Yes, it is because each character has its own graph, each character has a different tone and meter. And if you’re shooting back-to-back, it is very demanding. You need to do your homework properly or you might mix the two characters. In this film, the two characters are very different.

    How difficult was it for you not to know English and bring that on screen?

    It is a lot tougher than I had thought. For example, let’s take a word ‘captain’. I could say, ‘Yeh humare team ka captain hain’ and say ‘captain’ in an Anglicised way, or I could say, ‘Yeh toh humare team ka kaptaan hain’ or ‘yeh toh humare team ka kepton hain’. Language comes naturally to one. If you’re using an accent, or if you’re speaking in a different style of Hindi and can bring Hinglish into it, you have to be very sharp. It was very difficult.

    Did you watch any of Mr Bachchan’s films, like Namak Halal, where he is not well versed in English?

    That’s so weird. Someone brought that up at the promo launch and we said, ‘Oh, wait a second, we hadn’t thought of about that.’ That was not the reference point. This is one of the few films I have done where the character doesn’t have a reference point for me. In Refugee too, there was no reference to the character, and when I did Yuva, Mani (Ratnam) said, ‘Just freak out, I can’t give you a reference for this character.’ So, in this film, there is no reference for Nandu Bhide. He is completely mad!

    Recently, Mr Bachchan tweeted and praised Happy New Year. He said ‘it’s HUGE’. Did he mention that to you?

    My father doesn’t tell me much about my work. He said he had watched the film that it was looking huge, he sounded excited. But he tells me what he thinks about my performance after watching my film. Obviously, coming from THE AMITABH BACHCHAN, it was the ultimate compliment. I think he has said more about this film to Shah Rukh than to me. (Laughs)

    How huge is the film, according to you?

    It’s huge! The first thing that Shah Rukh told me when he spoke to me about the film was that ‘my dream is to make India’s biggest film’. He said, ‘I am not talking about box-office numbers because that is not in my hands but I want to make the biggest-looking film.’ The vision is huge and I think Farah and Shah Rukh, as director and producer, have managed to achieve that vision.

    The other day, SRK said he didn’t think other filmmakers would make a film like this in the near future… in terms of cinema, in terms of putting a cast like this together, in terms of the scale etc. Do you also believe that you will not see a film like Happy New Year being replicated any time soon?

    Well, I hope and pray that Happy New Year is a huge success and anything that is a huge success spawns many more attempts of the same genre. I think it is going to be very difficult, I wouldn’t say ‘impossible’. I think the great thing about cinema is that we use each film as a stepping stone and a learning experience. But to put together a cast like this with the kind of attitude and emotion with which it is being made is going to be a very demanding task. Will it be possible? I am sure, I hope so. What I love most about this film and I absolutely adore about Farah, I would say, ‘Ye chhati thok ke Hindi film banati hai’.’

    In a day and age where there is such a variety of Hindi films and new subjects, we have been derisive of our basic foundation. And our foundation is that we love melodramatic, loud, masala Hindi films. I love the fact that Farah has said, ‘I make these kinds of films and I am proud of it.’ I told Farah ‘Manmohan (Desai) uncle would have been very proud of you.’

    Since you are also a producer, has the definition of ‘Friday’ changed for you?

    I think it changes for every producer. I think because the scope and the spectrum from media coverage to social networks, I think Friday pretty much judges… In the last three to five years, I haven’t seen a film pick up after two weeks. I think today you have to do what you have to do in the first week. Your first day pretty much determines where you end up. So, yes, Friday is very important and it has always been important. But I think it is much more important now. And it is not about what figure can you hit. It is more about how you can manage to appeal to the audience. It is not about how much you earned on day one. If you manage to rack up great numbers, that’s great. But the most important thing is being able to appeal to that audience because they will decide whether to return to cinemas or not. That is very important because the audience has 30 other factors telling them why they should or should not watch a film.

    Why should people watch Happy New Year?

    If you are a lover of Hindi cinema, you should watch Happy New Year. If you enjoy all that Hindi cinema stands for, you should watch Happy New Year. Happy New Year mein sab kuch hai… action, romance, drama, masala, emotion… just everything. Happy New Year is what Indian cinema is all about!

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  42. The other one was wrong..

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  43. Komal Nahta @KomalNahta · 22m 22 minutes ago
    #HappyNewYear applied for censorship. Length is 188 minutes i.e. 3 hours and 8 minutes!

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    • oh Boy, why couldn’t they do like CE, keep it under 2 and 1/2 hour?

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      • Usually, any movie they apply little over final cut if they are still in the process of final edit. They can leave out anything from the final cut which has been approved by censor board but they can’t add scenes later on.

        So, applying for censor and then making it to the final cut are not two something. Especially knowing its over 2 weeks before release.

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  44. Not sure who to believe but this Mayur person has been on target:

    Happy New Mayur ‏@mayurpuri
    @chaudharyashu4u @donesque Yes, it will be less than 2:45. Relax. ???? #mangalwithmayur

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  45. Nonsense Ki Night trailer coming out Saturday.

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  46. [added to post]

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    • With that subtitles (hindi idioms) on the song, now I can finally make sense of ‘Nonsense Ki Night’ lyrics. Tune was always catchy, now this promo helps.

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      • Agree with Master, the subtitles help. Barring 2 scenes I actually liked it, it seemed more liked MHN/OSO type humor than TMK/Housefull which is good

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      • This NKN promo is short but I recently saw Farah’s interview where they want to not show everything in promos and keep good part for big screen. Actually, I was thinking this might go all the way like Ra.One but it has been pretty much good promotion and not over promotion. Now, last 2 weeks will eventually take it to peak with some TV Reality shows appearances and interviews.

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        • Has there been good promotion? I’m not in India so I don’t know but I feel like it’s been more promoted in The US than India lol with the Slam your, Fox News interview and Google chat

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          • In India, movie was hardly promoted after 2 events – trailer launch and music launch. Now they will do it with TV Reality shows and regular interviews. I’m just saying people were assuming it will be over promoted but its hardly that case.

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          • yes the Ra One or Don or some of the other promotion normally associated with SRK hasn’t been the case here. But that’s partly because they also did the SLAM events and got quite a lot of milage out of it, not to mention the Google/Twitter appearances and so on.

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          • There is no silver bullet. That was good then, this approach is good now. It also is a sign of a new maturity about PR. People do not want the cost to be more than the benefit.

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  47. Yeah, doing 6 SLAM shows in USA was helpful. Also would think visiting Google HQ and Twitter HQ as part of SLAM as they did it after last show in CA and before boarding flight back to India. It is not a separate promotion as such. But as Raj pointed out above, hardly any promotion in India besides that and its less than 2 weeks to release now.

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  48. Did anyone notice that tune of this song (I am feeling alright…. nonsense ki night part) same as that of Amitabh Bacchan’s Ke pag ghoongaru- the part “sasa sa gaga re re sani sa sasa”- composed by Bappi Lahiri. Start listening from 2:10 of the following video

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  49. tonymontana Says:

    Srk looks so short standing next to Deepika, Sonu, abhishek, boman.. and he is portrayed as a “hero”. Wondet if he’s anything more than 5 feet 7

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  50. Looks like Abhishek plays a guy with two distinct personalities. He is Seeta as well as Geeta. He is Ram as well as Shyam. He is Uday Chopra as well as Ritesh Deshmukh.

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  51. One thing for sure, the humor is nothing like TMK or Housefull. This is more in lines with MHN and OSO, which is a good sign.

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  52. @ ‘This movie rocks.’

    I really hope so because abhi tak toh sab kuch aeda dikhta hai……. pata nahin kya storyline hai which is hidden underneath all these promos. There was a Indiawalle dance show on Zee which was a big bore. This has potential to be a big ham fest …….someone here rightly said earlier – either this will be a total blockbuster or a complete dud as there is not going to be anything in between for sure…..

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    • I think they have already given the story, few losers doing a dance competition along with trying to rob somebody, no?

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    • I don’t think the story of this movie will be anything path breaking like sallus movies 🙂

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      • lol Z . I tell you….when I walked out of Kick thought this was the first dud Salman has been itching to get with these mindless movies… esp. with the release a good 3 to 4 days before Eid and enuff time for bad wom to do the damage. But was surprised how it landed to a 240 cr net or something in that range in India itself purely on his stardom.

        Anyways you can cheer up a bit with KRK tweet here —

        Kamaal R Khan KRK @kamaalrkhan • 14m14 minutes ago
        Reports are out of #HappyNewYear It’s a terrific film n @juniorbachchan is rocking big time. He has 2nd best role in the film after SRK.

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        • I actually think Kick was a good movie. Agree, close to 250 crore on average movie, imagine him in D3, 300 crore easy…

          I always say if there is anything close to Rajnikant in Bollywood , it’s Salman, Salman and only Slaman. Pure stardom.

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        • on the HNY tweet, I dont’ take all of them seriously since you know how they are but KRK, as crazy as he is, he is good with stuff like that. He was the first one who tweeted about CE and how good it is.

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  53. Bandra.NRI Says:

    According to KKR HNY might break Day 1 record.

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  54. Promotion is in full swing now in India with multi city visit, realty TV shows appearance, etc…

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  55. That Nandu act of Abhi is so overdone ……specially when you think he may be the only stable part of this OTT movie…..!!!

    It’s highly likely I will end up watching this movie within the first 3 days of its release. Considering would be spending a good 3 hour in theater, mind is trying to neutralize the negativity and determine what the take away are here for me.

    Unfortunately until now it seems none at all! Cast, acting, songs, plot…..even the freakin huge sets seem fake with red chilies special effects of those Dubai landmark. The item ‘Lovely’ could have been the ‘Devi’l song of Kick here for me but for the presence of srk & abhi / overacting. Oh boy! Farah may have cooked up a real ‘nonsense ki night’ here.

    Incidentally I felt the same prior going into Kick and the movie turned out exactly what I was fearing, but for that last dialogue of Salman in police uniform at the end when we were all coming out of the theatre – ‘Mere Baare Me Itna Mat Sochna..Dil Me Aata Hoon, Samjh Me Nahi’……..left us all puzzled !!

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    • Dhoni, you’re trying too hard.

      It’s funny to see a fan of sallu and the type of movies he does trying to put down other movies.

      I guess to change the Kick dialogue little bit, salman fans should stay away from movies where there’s even a little bit of Sochna involved, stick to samajh me nahi aata type of movies 🙂

      Dude, save your money and your precious time and skip this movie.

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      • @ ‘Dude, save your money and your precious time and skip this movie’ – Well I have discussed above that is not an option due to time of release.

        Z, seriously except Diwali release this movie has nothing going for it at the moment!

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        • “Z, seriously except Diwali release this movie has nothing going for it at the moment!”

          Kind of like sallus movies which has nothing going for it besides it being an Eid release?

          Again, I can understand if you were lets say a fan of sensible films but you being a fan of sallu and his films, i think you have no leverage to criticize any movie.

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          • @ Z – “Again, I can understand if you were lets say a fan of sensible films but you being a fan of sallu and his films, i think you have no leverage to criticize any movie.”

            Well I am the last person to defend any bollywood actor here, more so for a movie like Kick which was horrible from start to finish. The little bit of liking for Salman has more to do
            with this off screen persona, attitude and general dabangiri on the box office and then there are these noble initiatives for ‘being human’……

            On the rest please don’t talk about sochna with movies of these superstars in general. SRK is one of the first who gets intolerable in these hammy situations….…look out for his sheepish / trying to be cute smile in hny …lol. somehow nothing seems ‘that’ tawdry/ garish when a Salman is on screen and is one of the only few in bollywood who can carry even parrot green shirt / orange togs with finesse / elegance mouthing those dialogues.

            It’s the same with his dancing and there are actors who indulge in all sorts of acrobatics and rhythmic motion and still end up not leaving much of an impression and the guy here has to move just his belt and put his arm up and the nation goes in a frenzy. I am an Indian and get more moved by a Tere mast nain and Bodyguard / Desi Beats kind of choreography than all sorts of somersaulting. Amitabh for longest time had mesmerized the nation with a simple a Bhagwan Dada step which is etched in history.

            Now with advent of all these dance shows running on various TV channel- the dance India dance & boogie woogie types audience is watching these regular Joe totally own the screen space daily and that too on a live bss which a bollywood actor can just dream of replicating.

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          • All i can say is the latest promo where SRK says “Itne hi kaafi hai aap sab ke liye” watch the way he says it, watch every inch of fack move. That’s 3 second has more facial expression than salman had in his entire career. I challange you to search youtube and pull any salman clips and prove me wrong.

            No arugment on his tyle piece which i has said if there’s anything close to rajnikant in bollywood, it’s only salman.

            If him playing wit his belt is all needed than what happenned to jai ho?

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          • You’re making a very Salman-like argument though. Because that line you’re referring to is a stock SRK expression and intonation. You can see it coming a mile way. There’s no ‘performance’ here, it’s simply signature. And that is precisely what everyone loves Salman for these days. From the Wanted line to the Dabanng stuff to Kick recently he has a series of one-liners and people love the way he delivers them.

            Now I do agree with you on the Jai Ho. In fact thought of saying so myself when MSDhoni said that it was all about star power since Kick was such a bad film. The obvious question then is of course: what happened to Jai Ho? But then all star fans do this. When films are successful they make it about the star, when they fail it’s about something else. Beyond this though, and this is a point I’ve made several times, but it’s a completely fallacy to think that Salman does well in these nothing films and so on. Because he can ONLY do well in this sort of thing. This is what the audience wants him to do! If he tried something half-serious it wouldn’t work, certainly at this stage of his career. This is precisely his brand-name now. The idea that if he did say an Aamir kind of film he’d do a lot better is a fantasy. Because he wouldn’t be accepted in many of those parts. Stars need to have credibility for whatever they attempt one way or the other. Finally I don’t think Kick is the worst of the Salman efforts. I have the least tolerance for his films and while I found the first half miserable I thought the second was fairly watchable.

            I’d also debate the Rajnikant point but that’s for another day!

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          • @ ” In fact thought of saying so myself when MSDhoni said that it was all about star power since Kick was such a bad film. The obvious question then is of course: what happened to Jai Ho? ”

            As far as I see it’s just the timing of release. I firmly believe we may have gotten similar results if we swap the dates for both. Eid / Diwali / Holiday period begs for a movie but a date in Jan even with one Republic day cannot yield much return unless the wom is something extraordinary.for it to carry on. There is final exam period looming over everyone’s head and movies are the last option….

            I have already stated the importance of release dates for these event movies earlier in many of my comments.

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          • In other words Kick would have flopped had it released when Jai Ho did? Or does the traffic only flow one way?!

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          • Jai Ho is not a flop and a few sites even listing it as semi hit.

            Though Jacqueline F is no great shakes but Jai Ho erred in signing a back stage dancer Daisy Shah as heroine just on the whims and fancies of Salman so there is some deductions there too.

            But yes Kick would not do so much and Jai Ho not do so less if we just swap the release dates only.

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          • those same sites then also list films like Bang Bang as successes. Unless a film does a Besharam it’s hard to get classified as a flop these days!

            But my larger point is about the overreach of fans. Salman is already doing extremely well. For whatever reason Jai Ho didn’t interest people too much. Even the greatest stars do have failures! Even when they are otherwise on their hottest runs! So one doesn’t have to provide this explanation for Jai Ho. Would it have done a bit better on another date. Probably. But then, and by your own admission, Kick might have done less along with so many other Salman Eid releases or whatever. In which case the numbers even on the best films are less stratospheric. So either way things ‘even out’ for the star.

            My own sense of Jai Ho is that it was probably too ‘serious’ for the Salman audience. I’ve always made this point. He’s not been loved in masala (in the sense of a drama like Ghajini or Holiday or Singham) but in masala-comedy. Pretty every film of his belongs to this genre and even the ones that technically don’t (say ETT) are not really hard-hitting stuff. Jai Ho was that sort of film. Haven’t seen it but have seen the original. And so there’s a curious correlation here between this kind of subject and the box office. Meanwhile with Kick things were back to normal and the audience showed up.

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          • Most of these holiday scenarios content of the movie comes much later unless movie falls in the category of ‘ekdum bundle’
            for example Kites / Veer / Mela etc.

            The other day we read Utkal’s compulsions in ending at the theatres for HNY. The same holds true for a large many Indian families. – Only caveat – it should not fall in obscene / vulgar category which JayShah rightly pointed Bang Bang somehow suggested in the promos which was not the case in actuality hence lost out on potential family audience.

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          • “That’s 3 second has more facial expression than salman had in his entire career. I challange you to search youtube and pull any salman clips and prove me wrong.”

            Why is it that people always take things on context and than argue on it. my whole thing on SRK 3 seconds acting was around that those 3 seconds gives more than salman can give in the whole movie.

            But obviously, the 2nd part was left out of the argument completely.

            MsDhoni, I say this againn, Kick was a decent movie which went well with most of the target audience hence it made the mount it did. Jai Ho relesing on Kick date would probably add may be 15 crore max to the total.

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        • Agree that there is nothing ‘pathbreaking’ in that line that SRK ‘acts’ out about ‘hum itne kaafi hain.’ You are too kind when you say you can see that face pulling out that stock mock-smile from a mile; one can see it from across the globe. That’s a 20 year old expression which he can pull out from even if he is floating in the air with kilos of ganja in him. This IS not to talk bad about it. It is not only that he is NOT capable of beyond this in commercial ventures, but also that his fans do not EXPECT anything more!

          That’s why he is more approachable to a non-fan like me when he exorcises himself of these scratching nails-on-the-board type expressions and ventures into territories like DIL SE or SWADES. Liking Aamir over the other 2, I was disappointed with Mani when he chose SRK over Aamir. This was my fan-boy stage way back and I too had some degrees of biases in me. But after seeing DIL SE, there was/is absolutely NO shred of doubt that if there was ANY commercial actor who could do justice to the role of Amar, it was SRK at that point in time. He was just wonderful in DIL SE.

          When he is left to his devices and in the company of the Richie Rich of Hi-fi like the bro-sis dumb & dumber combo and his soul-mate KJo, he can be utterly insipid & start revealing his weaknesses on a platter.

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    • @ “That’s 3 second has more facial expression than salman had in his entire career. I challange you to search youtube and pull any salman clips and prove me wrong.”

      Did you see that first promo where he is telling boman / sonu etc on some dance competition / show ….…Well its just 3 days left and forget a 3 sec facial expression. you are going to witness all that on screen in abundance for 3 freaking hours. The Farah Khan comedy level was pretty much evident on CNWK and the movie will be an extension…..

      SRK can do all those 3 sec facial contortions but there is an age for these things. When wrinkles and corrugations take over the same falls into doing ‘bhaandgiri’ on screen…. though in all fairness SRK in his own interviews refers himself as ‘bhaand’ of movies so it’s all understood there.

      On the rest unfortunately Z I have been giving you much more respect than you deserve. Why are you talking about comparisons and bringing Salman and Kick when I have clearly stated after a day of release what/ how I felt after watching Kick. (Please locate archives if you have time) All I have been talking is the difference in movie business between a release during festivals/ holiday and a non holiday release. These movies don’t have much base if they get a regular release.

      Wrt to talent whether it’s SRK or Salman no one survives in any business for so long without any USP which both have in abundance.

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      • Please don’t give me respect, it’s not required, not sure where I have showen you disrespect. Can you please point it out to me.

        I disagree with your point on release date, that’s all. I think Kick was a decent enough movie where it went well with target audience and that’s why it made a lot money. Jai Ho didn’t because it was too serious for a sallu movie.

        And my other point is if you’re a fan of sallu (who can’t act at all), than you shouldn’t criticize other actor knwoing sallu can’t act.

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        • Z well thanks for your comment.

          Wrt to acting & talent I am not going to stand behind Salman and defend him for doing those nonsensical movies. At the moment he is been able to give me few seeti maar moments …probably a bit more than others that’s why he becomes the flavor of the season. I am more a follower of his Big Boss kind of persona than movies…

          On an apart, I don’t think any top actor is currently focusing on his acting skill. In 90s for the longest time he was referred as the most underrated actor by a lot of top directors but he was more into foolhardy of a Dhawan / Sohail Khan. I consider his dad both talented and honest and trust his interview where he says he was very disappointed with salman looking at the potential he had…. But now it seems too late and a lost cause due to these mindless masala entertainers…where box-office is paramount.

          Ofc SRK when he started seemed extremely talented but all that was lost in the glamour of stardom / commercialization of movies. Though I hate these bollywood /hollywood contrasts, he clearly showed potential to do a DeNiro but ended up being a Jim Carrey for most parts. Unfortunately we as a society are all too money minded to produce a gem like DiCaprio or even a Brad Pitt / Clooney!

          Well this is the last on this issue from me and signing off.
          n’joy HNY ! Will let you know my thoughts either on friday pm or sat early am hours.

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          • Though I’m hardly a SRK fan and have not been so since the late 90s and though I’m the first to say that he’s very predictable in these outings I think irrespective of how the debate is being framed it’s hard to argue that Salman is exactly on the same plane as SRK. Whatever choices the latter might or might not have bad things don’t get equalized that way. Much as two actors doing similar escapist films can nonetheless be judged differently based on their talent level. Otherwise one would have to argue that if ten actors do masala North or South and if they’re all predictable for doing the same stuff again and again they are all actors of the same caliber.

            However much any ‘top actor’ might be disappointing or not in terms of his choices it does not follow that therefore there is no difference between them and Salman. Or whatever the comparison is either way. I don’t disagree with you in certain ways but this framing isn’t entirely fair. If Aamir just kept doing Ghajini I wouldn’t say he and Akshay are the same as actors.

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          • I’ll see it on Friday or Saturday night (USA est) and will provide my feedback. I hope it’s pure fun like MHN/OSO/CE were. If it’s anything like JTHJ, I’ll walk out of it like i did in JTHJ and sneak in to another auditorium to watch something else. Ra.1 didn’t bother seeing it in theatre based on the vibes i was getting.

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  56. MUMBAI: According to Shah Rukh Khan, the star and producer of “Happy New Year,” Abhishek Bachchan’s and Deepika Padukone’s characters are the most pivotal to the plot and are their very spine.

    http://www.newindianexpress.com/entertainment/hindi/‘Happy-New-Year’s-Abhishek-Bachchan-Gets-Candid-on-Films-and-Sports/2014/10/17/article2482096.ece

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  57. The feedback from likes of bachhan and johar should start coming in in couple days claiming it’s the next Mogul E Azam 🙂

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    • LOL, true!

      Incidentally of all the trailers so far, long or short, this is the only one I’ve liked at some level. Or more precisely it’s the only half-decent one!

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  58. Liked the new dialogue promo. But I’m interested as to what nationality Jackie Shroff’s character is. Based on the dialogue I don’t think he’s Indian which leaves two options- either he’s from Dubai or…Pakistan. I’d be very surprised if he was from Pakistan given this is a SRK movie and SRK-Farah made MHN. But if he is Pakistani then overseas BO wise this movie will be very interesting. Actually it already is given the whole “Indiawaale” theme.

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    • Or it could be where Jackie is Indian but looks down on India and Indians now that he settled and bigtime in some other country.

      I’ve seen plenty of Gujju here in US act same way where they look down on some maybe not that well off Indians.

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  59. ‘KBC’ makers make an exception for Abhishek Bachchan?
    By Sonali Joshi Pitale |Posted 17-Oct-2014

    Makers of Amitabh Bachchan’s game show ‘Kaun Banega Crorepati’ reportedly tweaked the no-kin-allowed rule to feature Abhishek Bachchan in a special episode

    Amitabh Bachchan, who hosts the quiz programme, Kaun Banega Crorepati, had the entire star cast of Happy New Year come over for a special episode.

    However, it is learnt that though rules suggest none of the host’s relatives can be invited on the show, the makers made an exception as the film stars Big B’s son, Abhishek Bachchan.
    A crew member says, “When the entire star cast was invited on the show, he obviously had to be present. Never in the past has any of Amitabh Bachchan’s relatives come on the show. Therefore, this time, the production house and the channel had a bit of a discussion and decided to include his son, Abhishek Bachchan in the special episode.”
    Shooting for the special episode is said to have started late because of a big star cast. “Abhishek not only played the game along with Shah Rukh Khan and pulled up a prank on his father besides shaking a leg with him. Shah Rukh asked Amit ji for some tips on handling children as he is a father of three kids,” adds
    a source.
    While the channel spokesperson remained unavailable for comment, the show’s producer, Anita Basu denied the buzz about the rules being tweaked. She says, “Everything was legally vetted before that (the episode) and he (Abhishek) was anyway playing for charity.”

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  60. –Some Johnny lever discussion in the beginning

    In my opinion, Johnny lever is a better comedian than the entire cast of this film.

    some of his scenes in many movies (Laadla, Baazigar, Dulhe Raja, yes boss, Deewana Mastana, Aawara Paagal Deewana, Anari number 1) are absolutely hilarious. his chemistry with Govinda is fabulous.

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  61. Dubai captured very well in this Satakli song promo. Big screen worthy.

    [added to post]

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    • this is a group song. Surprised SRK called it Abhishek’s introductory moment. Unless the song comes in two parts or something. They seem to have some footage at the beginning suggesting this.

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      • Yes and it is good if they keep the Abhishek’s track for big screen(including the double role part). But honestly, I don’t see any of the songs as solo for any actors, could be some portion of it. Even SRK-Deepika Manwaa love track was a group song.

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      • AamirsFan Says:

        I am hope it does come in two parts. Because a song like this needs all the elements of a ‘masala’ choreography dance sequence and not the crap that we see in this trailer. The song and what is picturized here does not mesh together. I am more disappointed because this was the only song I was looking forward to watching, I guess will just have to wait until after the film releases then.

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      • AamirsFan Says:

        Also, this song does not need a ‘group’, it should have either SRK or Abhishek carrying it. Just like “lovely” song only requires Deepika doing her thing.

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  62. I think this will be the last promo. They’ve done very good job with all the promos, all released at right time and in right sequence. They’ve kept single screen and multiplex in mind.

    Now, if Farah has done this movie right like MHN and OSO, it will be huge. Only thing I think will be speed bump is the 3 hour plus run time. CE was less then 2.5 hour so they’re able to squeez in one more show.

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    • People are unfairly comparing with Chennai Express. For a simple straight one liner story of Chennai Express, 141 minutes is good enough but I don’t think you can make a full blown multi starrer in 140 odd minutes. Om Shanti Om was 169 mins and even Dhoom 3 was 171 mins. HNY is 174 mins with so many character introductions and songs taking most of the time.

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      • according to some of the reports this is actually 188 min!

        HAHK was longer than three hours and that was a CD of a film! On the other hand there was Sholay with roughly the same length. It’s all about how things are handled. You can have a film about nothing (which is the category HNY falls into!) or you can have a great script. Lagaan at 3 hrs 40 min was handled superbly. Some films stretch your patience even at 120 min! Now on HNY I think this is a mediocre soundtrack but the sort of thing that’s ok in movies these days (that’s a low bar anyway). My point is that this kind of music doesn’t really add to the film’s numbers in the true sense. Then it becomes about the film itself. Again I don’t really see anything distinctive or special in the visuals. The comedy quite often treads on Sajid Khan terrain if the previews are anything to go by. It could still be a just about watchable film. I would be surprised at strong trending here but if it has the biggest initial (in pure numbers.. because these ‘records’ are otherwise broken every other day) and trends half-decently by today’s standards it could get to the highest benchmarks. But again if I were a betting man I wouldn’t think even the D3 final total to be that breathable. Of course D3 should have done a lot more too but the point is that without a film that truly works at some level or the other it’s hard to get to do anything extraordinary on the total gross. We’ve seen so many films start off with massive numbers but ultimately the weakness of the respective film(s) begins to show. And so there’s nothing within even striking distance of the D3 total which was a relative underperformance for that film. Put differently a MHN-level film from Farah Khan could certainly do 300 or more. Even HNY doubled its initial. But this film so far looks less than either of those. Sure it could be better than the trailers but neither of those films was ‘better’ than the trailers! And hardly any film these days is. So yeah a huge splash here in terms of the initial, a pretty big total otherwise but to be more than this, to be truly significant all factors being accounted for, the film would have to be significantly better than these trailers. So far it strikes me as being the sort of thing that might be watchable enough but that no one would dream of watching again and few would call outstanding or anything. Anything’s possible but this campaign has been anything but inspiring. You don’t need one to get to big numbers. You can put together a big production with the right stars and so on. That’s a different matter. One just has to rub one’s eyes in disbelief if anyone calls this a good campaign or a promising film. Specially not if one has otherwise been dissing Salman’s films or whatever. Because whether aesthetically (even by commercial standards) or in the moments on display there has been nothing very interesting so far. And as I’ve already said throwing up big numbers is no bar in Bollywood these days because any number of junk films do this. And to be precise one final time this argument is against those who’ve seen something promising in the previews. The film could be better but that’s already arguing against the odds!

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    • Z,
      sorry to say but it wont be huge,its not going to break any records and will not be earth-shattering records,infact hardly there is any buzz about the film,people are busy with diwali and shopping so dont flatter yourself.

      even my wife is srk fan and she hardly getting excited,lol

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  63. Don’t think this is the real video for the song, but the scenes they showed from the movie look nice. But agree with Z, the 3 hrs length will be a speed bump but lets see

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    • that might be true for many of the scenes but the group is lip synching on some of the lyrics.. I think this will be a song with half of it on the Abhishek intro and the second half later.

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      • ^That sounds right. The song would work with Abhishek’s intro perfectly. But I wonder why they keep showing the shot of SRK walking in the white shirt with Radhe Radhe in the background…we’ll find out in a week

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        • yeah I wouldn’t have been sure about it except that SRK called it Abhishek’s song in an interview.

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          • Ok ok, haven’t been keeping up with HNY ‘s promotional activity… I’ll probably watch the CNWK and KBC episodes on youtube

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          • For sure this is Abhis song but SRK is in it too. I had made a post here about a week ago where i had stated that Satakli is also picturised on SRK in Dubai Mall. Mayur had tweeted this.

            Looks like Sharabi song will be the end credit song which is very weird unless there’s somthing which leads to that song in end credit.

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          • but these days a lot of tracks are just put at the end without any real connection to the plot.

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          • ^ agree, but the lyrics of such songs are not specific, take lungi dance for example, it can be used as stand alone item song. Sharabi song is very specific where one is questioning why are people calling me sharabi. Not sure if it will go well with the audience.

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  64. The visuals of the Satakli song are very very good…The potential of this movie if made well is limitless as of now IMO and I speak purely from a trade perspective. There is a real good expectation all over and nothing is overdone like Ra-1…

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    • Agree, the potential is there.

      If the movie fails, all the blame goes to SRK for not learning from Ra-1.

      If the movie is hit at same level as MHN and OSO were, than i have to give it up to Farah. How many directors do we have today who made big hit masala films? Even Rohit Shetty, outside of CE, best to my knowlege his other hit movies were not a huge hit of their time (like one of biggest hit of the year). and if you add another layer that Farah is a woman, I don’t think there is anybody in history of bollywood who has her hit track record.

      If HNY flops than, i think this will be her last movie with srk and she’ll have to look to niadiadwala or somebody else to produce films for her.

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      • Shetty’s best trending film though is the first Singham. His biggest grosser is of course CE.

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        • agree, first singham is shettys best trending film but not sure how the opening was (was it best of its time).

          I watchend 2nd singham couple days ago, probably my least liked shetty film. It wasnt’ anything like the first one or should i say it was part 1 on steroids which made it lose it’s charm.

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        • Yeah SIngham trended well but it is direct remake of superhit south film which every Salman Khan film is doing inspire any director. On the other hand, Singham Returns, an original film, didn’t really work. It made money but pretty much everything in its 1st week and nothing later.

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  65. Abhishek Bachchan, who has donned a ‘tapori’ look for his role as Nandu Bhide in Happy New Year, says the character had to be created from scratch as he bears no resemblance to the actor’s real self.

    Talking about his character in the film, he said “I play Nandu Bhide from Sangam Chawl in Mumbai. He enjoys his drink a bit too much and that makes him very entertaining and very outrageous, but a lot of fun.

    Nandu is completely opposite of what I am in real life. There was nothing I could use of myself in Nandu. He is somebody that director Farah Khan and I have literally created from scratch”.

    http://movies.ndtv.com/bollywood/abhishek-bachchan-says-happy-new-year-character-nandu-bhinde-opposite-of-his-real-self-681349

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  66. The fountain scene, is clearly copied or inspired from Ocean’s series. They could have avoided it.

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  67. Abhi’s perfomance or lack of it on “comedy night with Kapil” was hugely disappointing. There was absolutely no presence of mind and lack of comedy timing was consistently on display. His struggle to grab attention was quite evident and enough to raising doubts about this Nandu Bhide ‘s tidbits as planted marketing gimmicks.

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    • It could be fatigue. Dont’ forget, they’ve been on promotion non-stop for about a month now which inlcudes multi country SLAM tour, now going to multi cities in india for promotion and doing multi reality appreance, etc… Plus they have family too so it can eventually wear you out.

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      • ^True except for SRK

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        • Right, SRK has amazing amount of energy and he is used to this kind of promotion, for others this is their first experience. It can be overwhelming and tiring.

          I must say i’m plesently surprised by the amount of time/scope everybody is getting via the promotion, slam concert, tv appreance, etc… never seen anything like it.

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          • Don’t think it’s a first for Abhishek though. His normal schedule tends to be pretty crazy, even by Bollywood standards. For D6 and some other film he had some kind of record for number of cities covered in 24 hrs. These days though in addition to all this there’s also the trips he’s making for the ISL. I haven’t seen the show (and not inclined to) but it could well be fatigue.

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  68. Public appearance on highly watched comedy TV show can’t be taxing. The format and interactive part of it should be relaxing to any participant..it just requires little presence of mind, humility, ability to laugh on oneself and public skill. Alas..it was missing and can’t be skirt away in disguise of fatigue.
    After his “kabbadi” success one was hoping for some leadership and communication skill on display but that didn’t happen.

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    • perhaps what you’re saying is correct. He seemed fine on the recent dance show he showed up on as well as the music show. Saw snippets either way. Might have been an off day! Not that this kind of appearance is my kind of thing in any case. Either way not sure why you’re taking this so seriously.

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    • Don’t get this at all, saw Abhishek in Sunday’s episode.. he was very good and don’t see any fatigue or such thing. He even volunteered to dance on Kaike Paan song and did great job.

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  69. Honestly it is not easy at all to be harsh when it comes to Abhi. it is just realistic expectation from someone really talented.

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    • So out of non-stop appearences he has been part of including SLAM, CNWK is the only one where he was off? Well, that’s not bad to be off once out of 30 days of non-stop promotion activities.

      You were making a point that “Nandu Bhide tidbit might be gimmicks”, even if it was, Abhi just found that out now after doing the whole film and promotion for a month? nobody associated with the film ever said that Abhi is HNY, they’ve all said Abhi has a big and important role. This is not D3 kind of deal where he was left out in promotion too.

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  70. Amitabh Bachchan ‏@SrBachchan 1h1 hour ago
    T 1649 – What mounting for @HNY .. the songs, the story, the performances .. A RIOT !!!

    Amitabh Bachchan ‏@SrBachchan 1h1 hour ago
    T 1649 – Back from @HNY … it is HHUUUUUGGEEEEEE !!!

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    • Now we just need Karan Johars tweets 🙂

      I wish Bachchan would man up little, not sure why he always has to be so diplomatic, almost sounds like he is kissing a$$. I mean if you’re still at peak of your career or getting into the game, than i can understand. But he should be worry/care free at this age or at end of career.

      He may have truly liked HNY but saw this kind of tweet during ra.1 too.

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  71. Love the SOnu sood promo. I think this will have a very good humor. Love it when that guy signals “call me”…

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  72. Talking about candid, the dimpled superstar(Shahrukh Khan) says it is Deepika and Abhishek who hold the film. Of the latter, he compares him to a baby, one who is always distracted, smiling and fooling around on the sets, but a complete natural when it is time to deliver his lines. “I don’t mean to be patronising but Abhishek’s talent has not yet been tapped completely, he needs to be pushed a little more,” he adds.

    http://www.newindianexpress.com/entertainment/hindi/‘I-Don’t-Need-the-Money-or-Fame-Love-for-Movies-Keeps-Me-Motivated’/2014/10/19/article2483157.ece

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  73. How I wish I had the option of something like Haider during Diwali. Then I could safely skip this like I skipped Bang Bang, seeing Haider thrice instead..

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    • There will be some theatre that will still be playing Haider this weekend, you can go check it out for the fourth time.

      you can easily skip HNY, but you wont 🙂

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  74. Just realized, Abhi looks like Ali G in the Satakli song.

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  75. Z: I don’t mind watching Haider the fourth time and I might. But I need to take my wife fora film ona holiday. During the Pujas ( Dussera) I could manage with Haider ( the other two times I saw it alone.) but I don’t have a choice during Diwali. That’s what I am ruing.

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  76. Z: At least if there is a Rang Rasiya releasing, that would solve the problem.

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  77. http://www.bollywoodhungama.com/news/2687280/Special-music-video-for-Happy-New-Year-shot-last-night

    The much awaited and highly anticipated Farah Khan directed multi-starrer Happy New Year will be releasing this Friday. Though the film was recently cleared by the CBFC (Censor Board of Film Certification) with a ‘U’ certificate, we hear that the makers have just shot a special music video for the film.

    Confirming the shoot, a source close to the film says, “Yes, we did shoot a special music video. However, Farah Khan was not the one who shot it.” The music video was choreographed and shot by Ganesh Hegde. Talking about this, lead actor Shah Rukh Khan tweeted, “Thank Ganesh Hegde & Sanjiv for doing the sharabi song. Sorry to rush you but I am sure u will make it look beautiful as u always do.”

    When quizzed further about the music video, the source adds, “The music video was shot last night featuring the entire cast of the film. However, a decision has not yet been taken whether the said track will be added to the film or not.”

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  78. Different version of Satakli promo, lots of Abhi in it.

    [added to post]

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  79. Abhishek Bachchan’s plays Nandu Bheede in the film and it looks like the role is definitely going to be one to watch out for, especially since the team is deliberately being tight-lipped about it.

    From what we understand, Abhishek’s character is an alcohol-loving Mumbai tapori who loves speaking English, even if he doesn’t quite know how to. Funny, comical and mad – that’s how the character could be described, but when the team was asked about the role, each one maintained a strong silence about it. We wonder why.

    Vivaan Shah called Abhishek Bachchan the ‘wild card’ and when we asked him to elaborate, he merely smiled and said, “You need to watch the film to know why!”.

    Boman Irani on the other hand, feels Abhishek’s character is the best in the team of losers in the film. “If given a choice to switch roles, I would have done it with Abhishek’s character. It is quite a challenging role and Abhishek is a marvelous actor. He is one of the most under rated actors we have and I hope after Happy New Year, people really take notice of how hard he has worked for the film.”

    Eventually, when we reached Abhishek Bachchan and asked him about the same, he shied away from the question too. “It is a secret and I can’t tell you,” Abhishek joked, without giving away any details about his character.

    From what we hear, Abhishek’s Nandu Bheede is going to play an important role in the Happy New Year heist and there have been fleeting reports about him playing a double role in the film. But the team’s silence on the character is what makes us all the more curious!

    Happy New Year releases on October 24.

    http://www.dnaindia.com/entertainment/report-abhishek-bachchan-s-character-in-happy-new-year-kept-under-wraps-2027560

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  80. Isn’t the official runtime ~3 Hours? I was on the AMC website and it said the runtime is 2:45…

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  81. RajRoshan Says:

    Is it more than 3hrs?…seriously..will be difficult even to watch at home

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  82. THE BEHEMOTH

    THE 400 CRORE MONSTER IS HERE–HNY

    Let’s wish films do well instead of pulling them down

    HNY seems poised to do what D3 couldn’t –breach the 400 crores mark or atleast breach 350 !!

    Perfect Diwali release
    SOLO release
    NO Haidar
    No sharing of reduction of screens
    Likely increase in tickets prices

    SLAM BANG TOUR ( mother of all promotions) all over the world with the whole star cast tagging along like unemployed folks giving their entire diary

    SRK with ten packs
    Farah after having learnt her lessons

    DEEPIKA at her RIPE PRIME
    And at the TOP OF HER EXPOSURE in mohini

    ENSEMBLE CAST
    with stars like Abhishrek adding on
    Besides bowman, Nasser kid etc

    FAMILY FRIENDLY genre

    Fun n games

    And look at the DEFT PLACEMENT

    THE PAN KHAN AXIS IS ACTIVATED WITH ALL KHAN FANS DOMESTIC AND OVDRSEAS ‘HELPING OUT’

    KRKs positive reviews

    Amitabhs positive gushing tweet (sic!)

    ABOVE ALL THE CASTING IS ACE

    DEFANGING the negativity

    Abhishrek–apparently a couple of songs /scenes have been thrown in

    But the difference is that those who were anti–srk and anti khan as such are now actively and covertly cheering this film and secretly hoping to see abhishrek in a blockbuster (albeit in a glorified johns lever role)

    Ditto with the naseer kid somewhat

    MIX OF SINGLE SCREEN AND FAMILY FARE

    Opening day and opening week record has already been broken!!

    The 400 crores net landmark is waiting to be owned by HNY

    Move aside folks –hail the behemoth HNY

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    • If Hrithik were in this film it would only need to do 200 and you could make up the rest.. You last tried this with D3. With Hrithik’s films it’s a)I don’t care about the gross b)150 is actually 500 c)there’s a global conspiracy against Hrithik. Then it’s D3 or HNY or something and suddenly you expect a Titanic-like gross. Otherwise it’s a big disappointment. What does all of this prove? Hrithik’s the biggest star!

      It isn’t only Alice who went down the knuckerhole!

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      • **
        150 is actually 500

        It isn’t only Alice who went down the knuckerhole!**

        LOL!!!

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      • Leaving boxoffice aside, if Hrithik would have been there in Hny, the quality of the film would have been high then at least.People these days like nonsense which Hrithik always avoids by doing quality movies and that is why his films score a bit less at ticket window.Even Bachchan became famous by doing nonsensical movies in 70’s and 80’s.In comparision to that Hrithik has maintained a standard and his movies have less for masses and more for classes.

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  83. Hi Apex!

    Must give it you for corroborating all evidences for Bang Bang with proper supports and links ! It goes without saying we live in world where there is plethora of material and its all there to be picked up by the ‘ ‘right person’…..more like beauty lies in the eye of the beholder !

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  84. Amitabh Bachchan ‏@SrBachchan 1h1 hour ago
    T 1649 – Back from @HNY … it is HHUUUUUGGEEEEEE !!!

    Omg OMG !!!

    what should be say?? No comments

    I didn’t want to puncture the bachchan hysteria here

    But let me tell me an anecdote

    While watchin bang bang, the HNY promo came up
    A co-viewer of mine who sees Bollywood v rarely asked me about abhishrek —
    ” is that the same guy who did guru?”

    She was shocked

    I just saw the promo of “manva lage”

    ITS PAINFUL to watch abhishrek being subjected to this

    In one sequence, he is standing like a BACKGROUND EXTRA spreading his arms with the other sidekicks

    And deepika sort of passes by into the arms of srk

    Even in some of the other promos I’ve seen

    There’s been NO doubt left in the minds of the audience that abhishrek is a COMICAL SIDEKICK

    same with the naseer kid

    The attempt is to give the

    “The pro genies of both the king do mainstream and art cinema are UNDER MY SUBSERVIENCE”

    With the naseer kid it’s no big deal since that kids a nobody anyways

    But abhishrek ??

    I may have issues with him and his lack of effort and star appeal

    But this is REVOLTING !!!

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    • honestly I’ve stopped trusting Big B’s views on films he has seen – most of the times he has superlative remarks and we know many of them have been shit of the movies………he would better be less generous or rather be on ground while praising the films.

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  85. How time flies- I still remember how OSO making ~40 crores in its 1st week was record breaking, HNY is expected to do that much on its first day alone. Also the first day could be greater than the lifetime gross of Main Hoon Naa. I don’t know if that’s to the credit of HNY or discredit of MHN.

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    • That’s no discredit to MHN, it’s just how it is. A hit prior to MHN might have been hit even earing half of MHN.

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    • well MHN under performed no doubt. Considering the hype of the movie had at that time and SRK at his peak…it only made 34cr or something.

      http://www.addatoday.com/2012/11/bollywood-year-wise-top-grossers-1990.html

      Here is a list from addatoday.com that seems *fairly* accurate for top grossing movies since 1990. I found your “how time flies” comment interesting. Looking at this list is just crazy.

      Couple things stuck out…did not know that in 1992 Beta dominated the year. Also, Madhuri owned the 90’s. For Amitabh Bachchan, 13 out of past 24 years, his movies have been in the top ten grossing films (this is why this guy is the greatest box office phenom). And Khan (SRK, Sallu and Aamir) starrers have been the top grossing movie 17 out of past 24 years; 22 of past 24 years, a movie starring one the three Khan’s has at least finished in the top two grossers.

      I’m not trying to make this into a ‘Khan’ thing, but these are just facts. It is no coincidence that a movie starring Aamir, SRK or Sallu gets the highest gross; these guys have built huge audiences for themselves and just when you think they are fading and the likes of Ranbir and Hrithik are considered threats; they raise the stakes. Post 1994 is when in my mind the real domination started.

      since 1990; has starred in highest grossing movie of that particular year:

      Aamir and SRK each have 5
      Sallu has 7
      Sanju has 1
      Govinda has 1
      Anil Kapoor has 2
      Hrithik Roshan has 3
      Sunny Doel has 2

      With BB under-performing, looks like Kick will end up at the top or at the very least 2nd or 3rd. HNY has potential to beat Kick but 214cr or whatever it made isn’t easy to achieve. I think it can do 200cr domestically but in my opinion it will break a lot of record overseas.

      This topic really belongs in the box office thread but I didn’t know how to reply to this comment without it being random in the BO thread.

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      • MHN actually did very well. It made 2 crores in Mumbai in first week which was a record. The first week was 13 crores, the second around 8 so it trended well too

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      • MHN did well. 34 crores was a good number for that time. The same year VZ released and it it did 5 crores or so more and that was an underperformance given that expectations were much greater. But times have changed. VZ did 17 crores or something in week 1. But today’s standards that’s great trending! The fastest fade for VZ was in Bombay.

        Now where I think you nonetheless have a point is that MHN with a greater reach (some of the masala elements here) nonetheless did only as much as KHNH which released a year earlier or so. Actually Dhoom did close to 30 that same year. But in fairness MHN wasn’t one of his really big films at the time. Of course my point has always been with SRK that if you take away the very big hyped projects he’s suddenly a lot more mortal with the other stuff. But even on his biggest films he’s never done better than the biggest Filmkraft films or something in the last decade. If you leave aside K3G OSO was his one big opener. VZ and KANK had strong starts too.

        With SRK though it’s always been the overseas totals that have been extremely strong. Certainly historically, in the 90s he was more or less alone in this sense, later on other stars caught up, even did better at points but he’s had a longer record in this sense. So you combine the overseas with good or better or sometimes extraordinary Indian numbers and that’s always been the SRK coalition. The point though I’ve always made (and I don’t have the energy to go into this in great detail once more) is that the hype would have you believe something else even about the Indian totals! Put differently SRK never had the present Salman-like run in India. Nor did he ever have his own overseas numbers in India. But yes he was at one time the most iconic star of his age, he has been one of the symbols of ‘New India’. Can’t take this way from him. But you mix it all up and it has allowed him (and his supporters) to blur these differences.

        More recently CE was one of the very big career moments because as a solo star he rarely has these moments. Yes it was Rohit Shetty and yes there was Deepika in it but still this wasn’t an OSO-like circus. And Shetty hadn’t grossed as much otherwise. But it’s a bit late in the day in the sense that now these big grosses are all over the place. But going forward he’ll probably try to have one such moment (HNY or Shetty, he’s already planning another one with the latter) which gives him breathing room to try out some other stuff. If that works well and good, otherwise he falls back on this, at least as long as it lasts. Not a bad strategy.

        But getting back to MHN all things considered it was a good result. Not spectacular or anything but good.

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      • would be very surprising if HNY didn’t cross Kick. Put differently it would be an underperformer or worse if it doesn’t do this. But there’s also PK at the end of the year. But yeah Kick will at worst be third on that list.

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  86. I would like this film to bomb at the BO but Deepika is a lucky-mascot here and SRK’s equity will see this film do atleast 200 cr but the trailers have nothing exciting to offer so far and I will skip this movie…

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  87. Qua Abhiskekh Bachchan

    I guess may be it turns out he is the real villain! And hence the special mention for him again and again. And that’s why he accepted the role.

    Because the history of such movies say that there is always one person who performs treachery on others.

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    • That is about the only thing that would interest me in this plot. That if either SRK or Abhishek have a potentially deceitful moment. As predictable as that may be its usually more interesting.

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    • there’s probably something there. Vivaan talked about there being a twist of sorts to his part. Boman said his was the role he would have liked to do. Whether it’s a negative thing or something else remains to be seen.

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  88. Wish you all a happy Diwali, Deepavali.
    There is a beautiful song in the tamil film Kalyana Parisu for the occasion. A happy version and a sad version.

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  89. “would be very surprising if HNY didn’t cross Kick. Put differently it would be an underperformer or worse if it doesn’t do this.”

    I’ll keep it simple, a penny less than Kick and it’s a flop. No other way of looking at it.

    On Abhi, i’m getting a vibe that it maybe; there was a movie few years back (Ed Norton?) where the actor is playig a retard but he’s the one who out smarts everybody in the end. Can’t think of the movies name.

    IF that is the case, SRK is really being very gracious. Well, as it is I think I’ve seen somethig int his movie which I havenot seen before. The amount of publicity, importance, visibility each actor is getting.

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    • Whatever the deal it’s safe to say at this point that he has an important part here. I’ll say something similar to what I said for BB. Both bigger stars were generous. Equally I don’t believe either one would have been this generous with anyone else. It’s about personal equations, it’s also about (and this specially holds for SRK) having enough respect for the actor. I’ve said this in the past but I’ve always sensed a certain affection for Abhishek on the part of SRK. Leaving this aside he’s praised Abhishek more here and in a serious way, specially given this sort of thing doesn’t come naturally to him at all, than anyone else I can think of (commenting on the acting, comparing him to his father, saying the film is his and what not). But this also gets to a larger point. Yes Abhishek is loved in the industry but at the end of the day it is about a skill set. Specially when you’re down and out you don’t get such opportunities just because people love you. SRK for instance also has to think about a film in which he’s investing a lot in a direct sense. If he could just have non-stars he would have done so! Clearly the film required one other person with standing. I do know that Farah Khan herself has wanted to work with Abhishek for a long time as well. Getting to the actual point I don’t know what the twist is, whether it’s related to the double or whether it’s what you’re referring to. Either way I guess Abhishek was looking pleased for a reason. Nonetheless and irrespective of how this pans out for him I hope he gets to more serious stuff sooner than later. On Ed Norton the movie was the Score and it was more than a decade ago! Quite like the film.

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      • by the way this whole premise (HNY) could really have been done well with a much more restrained director. With Farah Khan irrespective of the subject it’s just a huge circus all the time.

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      • omrocky786 Says:

        Score was a great film, on Abhishek I think SRK realized that when you can not beat him ( Big B, and also alienate his fans), embrace him..so he is nice to Abhishek to win over Big B fans !!
        He has already pissed off Aamir and Salman’s fans so at least get the Big B fans …
        P.S.- Abhishek key apney fans can probably be counted on finger tips ..LOL!!

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        • LOL on all counts!

          On a more serious note another ‘minor’ De Niro thriller I have a great weakness for over this same rough period (last decade and a half) is Ronin.

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          • Ronin was an awesome film, loved the highway scene and the scene prior to it.

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          • omrocky786 Says:

            Have not seen Ronin, will see if available on Netflix.
            Aside- saw Edge of tomorrow on the flight to India0 Kya thakee hui pichchar hai….boring and pointless.
            also saw Purani Jeans- quite liked it (however all the actors were inexperienced and it showed)

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          • Loved Edge of Tomorrow! The film trended very well too but because of Cruise’s box office weakness at this point and too many weak sic-fi attempts in the past it didn’t open well. Made it to 100m on strong trending but deserved to do far better.

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        • “counted on finger tips”
          Rajen, Satyam, Omi…hmmm…three fingers so far 😉
          who else I am missing?
          I love AB jr. But not as an actor 😦

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          • omrocky786 Says:

            LOL Di, well you are missing Big B, Ash, Rekha, Karisma Kapoor, Rohit Shetty, Mani Rathnam, RGV , and above all my daughters !!

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  90. thecooldude Says:

    Not sure if anyone has posted this….SRK lost his cool on CNWK

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    • thecooldude Says:

      Turns out this was all fake….SRK was just having some fun with the poor guy

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    • I think this is for publicity..I don’t think SRK is serious..it would be weird that he is oK with that Arnub comic stuff but not this one..

      Anyway, choti choti shows mein aise bade bade logon ke kaarname hote rehete hain..

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    • AamirsFan Says:

      lol…this better be fake…or else SRK is a complete idiot and takes himself way too seriously. but seeing his other interviews recently and watching him off-screen over the years…he seems OK when people takes shot at him. so i’m guessing this is a prank by SRK and his team.

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  91. they should have kept this version for the end credits.. LOL, this is better than any video in the film!

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