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PK Holds All Time Records In Seven Circuits
Friday 02 January 2015 12.00 IST
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PK has become the highest grosser in the following circuits after two weeks.
Mumbai
Delhi / UP
East Punjab
CP Berar
CI
Mysore
West Bengal
The circuits where record figures are still to be reached are Rajasthan, Nizam /Andhra, Tamil Nadu / Kerala, Bihar, Assam and Orissa. Rajasthan is not a record due to changes in entertainment tax but will set new record in the next week. Nizam /Andhra is on verge of record while Assam and Orissa should also reach in time. Bihar and Tamil Nadu / Kerala are likely to miss out.
The film has set new benchmark in CI as it has become first film to cross 10 crore nett. Other benchmarks that are likely to be achieved is 100 crore nett in Mumbai, 60 crore nett in Delhi/UP, 30 crore nett in East Punjab, 15 crore nett in CP Berar, 20 crore nett in Mysore and 15 crore nett in West Bengal. These will all be firsts.
New Releases Dull PK Remains Strong
Friday 02 January 2015 14.00 IST
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The two new releases Mumbai Can Dance Saalaa and Take It Easy opened to very dull collections of 0-5%. It continues the tradition of the first releases of the year being duds. You have to go back to the 80’s when any of the first releases of the year did well.
PK has continued its strong run into the third week and looking at the collections in the morning show of the third Friday it seems that the film will set a new record for third week collections and hit the 300 crore nett mark on Monday with an outside chance of getting there on by the end of business on Sunday.
Ugly released last week managed to hold steady on the weekdays as the four weekday business was similar to the weekend but with collections of just 3 crore nett apprx in week one its still a huge flop.
PK Grosses 276 Crore Nett In Two Weeks
Friday 02 January 2015 12.00 IST
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PK grossed a record 94.50 crore nett in week two taking its two week business to 276 crore nett. The second week business was around 30 crore nett higher that the previous record holder Dhoom 2. The film fell a little short of 100 crore nett in week two which would have been the sort of club that very few films will join. The film is looking to cross 300 crore nett before the end of the third week.
The second week collections were the highest ever in all circuits of India. The drop in week two was 48% with Delhi/UP and East Punjab showing an even better hold as collections dropped a little over 40%.The collections in Mumbai have crossed 90 crore nett.
The records will be more difficult to come by now. It can get a new third week record which stands at a little over 30 crore nett but it will difficult to beat this record by the margin it achieved the second week record. .
the same thing was said after 3I. You never know what can happen in 3 years (much less 10 !). Opening week can def. be broken and if a movie can open to 200 CR then they might squeeze by 320 or whatever final number for PK but yeah, don’t see any movie really beating PKs number unless Aamir teams up with Hirani again (which wouldn’t be anytime soon since HIrani has Sanjay bio and the next Munnabhai on his plate).
Aamir certainly could.. he has the script sense to be able to do it. It could either be the Ghajini model where a roaring initial (beginning on day 1) and then good trending does it or else the Hirani thing (though Hirani is alone in this respect). But in any case when a guy does it with Ghajini, 3I, PK (even if one doesn’t want to include D3 on trending ground) and then not to forget all the equally impressive trending patterns on films ranging from RDB to TZP (the total gross isn’t everything.. it’s about the maximum that can be done relative to a genre.. of course something like RDB in today’s money would be enormous, I’ve always insisted on this and even today I think that extraordinary as these huge grosses are one shouldn’t lose site of those older achievements) he’s much more likely to do so again. by the same token his peers haven’t come close to this overall achievement EVEN when they have had the biggest starts. And so there’s no real debate here.
actually other than on HAHK (and to an extent MPK where it did very well given that it had no stars and which in today’s money would be a high amount) Barjatya has never had that sort of stratospheric grosser. HSSH came down after a good initial, Vivaah had great trending in the smaller markets, had a good gross but not a massive one, MPKDH also tanked after a good initial. With Salman (who also has a very different image now) he’d get the initial but then he’d need enough sustaining power in a genre that isn’t otherwise on the right side of the multiplex audience. Why? Because Barjatya is simply too cheesy for this. He could make it up with a certain family audience that watches soaps regularly on TV but whether that audience too will accept that level of cheese in a movie remains to be seen. One has to think that this genre could not open in a massive way on day 1 so again this would be more about trending. Again all of this doesn’t mean this cannot happen. Certainly you’d have a star and a director who’d have to be taken seriously but it’s nowhere close to the ‘done’ deal some here have been presenting it as. for that you need a director who has much better credentials in the recent past and also a star who too has the same in that sort of genre.
sorry meant to say HAHK in that first line. Made that correction. But yeah that’s precisely my point. HAHK was 20 years ago and nothing since by him remotely approaches those benchmarks (including with HSSH at a time when Salman was going through a good phase.. not like today but then HSSH was one of the biggest releases of its time.. the first Barjatya post-HAHK). And now you add to that fact that Salman is one of the hottest stars around in a completely different genre. A big one is certainly possible here but it cannot be taken at face value. We don’t expect huge hits from directors who’ve done this two decades ago unless there’s also strong evidence in the recent past. Again I’m making a clear distinction here. This combo would have to be taken seriously but because in many ways it would be on the wrong side of the multiplex audiences it would have to be that much better as a film to really show some very strong trending. All of this simply cannot be assumed. It’s like saying Aditya Chopra made DDLJ 20 years ago. But neither Mohabbatein nor RNBDJ lived up to the box office tale of that film which was itself very far from HAHK as a grosser. And Aditya Chopra still isn’t on the wrong side of his audiences in some of those more basic ways. Weren’t people in fact saying some of these things when Aditya Chopra and SRK got together after so long? The film didn’t even match Ghajini in any sense.
aamir is 50 now and I guess PK wud remain his top-most grossing film – Sarfarosh2 might have an outside chance of touching 250Cr – but otherwise – he will have many 150-200 cr stuff still but on this scale – I doubt…..
Barjatya-Salman combo CAN deliver a massive or even a super massive hit. There is one caveat. Sooraj Barjatya can stay true to his genre but has to cater to today’s audience’s sensibilities. The audience has moved on- past the talking pets and Raam Laxman music. Barjatya couldn’t do it with MPKDH and to an extent with HSSH. Also Salman fans today are a different group than HAHK days.
So, yes- it’s a possibility and an interesting possibility . But,Barjatya HAS to reinvent himself. Salman can get his fans to the theatre but the film has to be such that they would come back again and again and also interest non-Salman fans.
Bharjatya is totally dated, so late 80s-early 90s. Adi-KJo usurped his space with the NRI Romances of the late 90s early 2000s. Further on, the Romance genre was given a quite burial with the advent of South Masala, New age multiplexism and Hirani-Aamir socially relevant offerings. I get a sense that Sallu gave a nod to Sooraj as a favor, something he has done with this brothers/brother-in-law etc. Unless Sooraj has something totally out of the box, the movie would have to rely hugely on the Sallu persona. There is a finite limit to how much that persona can deliver.
That’s a disingenuous observation and I am sure you are not really dumb enough to believe that. Regardless of its merits and view about the movie, it should be apparent even to a dunce that movie has been liked a lot by the audience .
Remember I am not saying PK to be under serving 200cr. It should have made it but controversy and release time has made it to surge past 300cr.
I think I have merit in this statement.
fully agree Naveen – akki would have been better PK and in that case even if the movie mad 50 rs. at the box – office – it would have been a mega block buster 🙂
Don’t think an actor could have changed the numbers. Hirani could weave magic with anyone but yes this time PK was good unlike the great films he had made in the past.
that is the under-statement of the year or even of last decade.
naveen,
correct me if i am wrong but it was your comment during the release of PK that the film is a ” flop “…nobody here laughs but it has come for you to eat “humble pie” i have put it an oven for warm up…
The movie PK was good when I saw it.
I had said it to be flop before watching PK as has been the norm in this forum. People like Jayshah Idea Satyam etc do this for every other star’s movie. I did the same as I thought they would like it.
This is the PK season in films and I thought as good as a time as any to mention how I think that Raju Hirani is as close to a genius as you can get in mainstream Indian cinema in any language. His insights into human behaviour , his keen sense of observation, his unique, quirky and original sense of humour and his innate goodness of heart and love for humanity marks him out as a once-in-a -century kind of artiste. It is a combination of these qualities that makes him connect with audiences in small towns as well as urban metros, to 8 year old kids as sixty-year old elder men and women. It is the universality, honesty and humanity of hsi vision that touches you. So when someone tries to find faults with any of his scenes I know it si some shortcomings in us , in not being able to perceive his vision. I think, I am fortunate to have got a sense of where he is coming from in most of his apparently absurd or less-than-perfect scenes.
Take the vacuum cleaner delivery scene in 3 Idiots. Many have called it stupid and cheesy. Exactly the opposite I say.
I have always considered that to be one of the many masterstrokes that Hirani and Abhijat Joshi added to the original rich material of Chetan Bhagat. For nothing is Abhijat Joshi the highest paid writer in Bollywood and Hirani is the acknowledged master of Indian commercial cinema. Because their imaginative leaps are grounded in reality and are used to achieve subtle artistic goals.
To start with the child birth facilitated by a vacuum device is perfectly scientific. Let me quote :
“Ventouse is a vacuum device used to assist the delivery of a baby when the second stage of labour has not progressed adequately. It is an alternative to a forceps delivery and caesarean section. It cannot be used when the baby is in the breech position or for premature births. This technique is also called vacuum-assisted vaginal delivery or vacuum extraction (VE).”
“The woman is placed in the lithotomy position and assists throughout the process by pushing. A suction cup is placed onto the head of the baby and the suction draws the skin from the scalp into the cup. Correct placement of the cup directly over the flexion point, about 3 cm anterior from the occipital (posterior) fontanelle, is critical to the success of a VE.”
“Your practitioner applies a flexible, rounded cup to your baby’s head in the birth canal. The cup is connected to an electric suction pump or a small handheld pump that creates vacuum pressure to hold the cup securely to the baby’s head. You’ll be asked to push while the doctor gently pulls on a handle attached to the cup, to help move your baby down and out of the birth canal.”
Now let us examine the beauty of this script device. Rancho has always been espousing the need for innovation, the need to learn how to use knowledge practically. The director had to demonstrate at some point Rancho a walking the talk, showing his knack for innovation, his ability to use knowledge of science and technology in everyday situations. We have had a glimpse of it when he made the seniors piss on a live electric wire with hilarious effect. This had to be one notch higher. Something the audience won’t expect. I have asked my friends from IIT if they had to think a situation to demonstrate how to use tech funda in a everyday situation, to be used in the film, what would they come up with. Needless to add, no one could think of this.
But it was not just the unexpectedness of it. We have seen Ranch in his male binding avatar with his two friends, Farhan and Raju. Here was a chance to reveal the feminine side of him.
To show how he could empathize with women, be involved with an essentially women’s problem, and come out a winner. It was a unique way of letting him go up in Pia’s esteem and create another kind of bonding between them. And also equally importantly, it was a way of winning the gratitude of Virus and winning him over forever., both by saving his daughter and demonstrating his grasp of technology.
All these are subtle strands of script writing that t only the masters grasp and can execute.
Salman – Barhatya can do it. But in my book the odds are less. After HAHK he has revealed his chinks, which are aplenty. It si not easy to retain the same connect with the audience as you did 20 years back, unless you have shown the kind of consistency that a Raj Kapoor or Ray did. But at the end of the day, thsi is the best suite that Salman has in his deck. Baarangi Bhaijan , shuddhi et can e good but at the Kick kind of level, nothing more.
Well that is Brand Aamir. People end up spending 260 crore on Dhoom3 for 2 things…Dhoom brand and Aamir Khan..else it was riding on Victor Acharya..the director of Tashan. Every project with actors name lends credibility. This is the fact that has gotten him to take over US.
Why US?
A key index to US popularity is the great influx of H1b visa IT professionals, Indian Students..who back in late 90s and 2000s had already grown fond of likes of Lagaan, DCH etc. This market knows what to expect from which actor. This is where the original first gen and 2nd gen desis (ABCDs) have followed suite and are supporting new movies.
No one is stopping other actors to spend time on script and make a worthwhile movie. I cannot expect from Salman to do the same but SRK can definitely do it.
The combination of Aamir and RH has proved the best and definitely it will be an undue pressure now on RH with Ranbeer Kapoor in the lead for the next.
Well going by just numbers…i think he needn’t prove anything to anyone now.
I am not into predictions normally: But I will stick my neck out on these two:
1. The Hirani-Ranbir Dutt biopic is going to be a blockbuster. Reasons? It is one hell of a life..Hindu father-Muslim mother, mother dies of cancer, so does wife, drug addiction, young daugter, getting entangled with terrorists, arms concealment, prison, two more marriages, playing icoinc character like Munnabhai, prison sojurn…even the writer of the biggest pup fiction could not make it more dramatic. An actor like Ranbir who can be so uber cool from Wake up Sid to Rajneeti to Barfi…under the baton of Hirani can create a symphony of emotions powerful enough to move a stone.
3. Amir and Hirani are not going to do another film anytime soon. Aamir can certainly do smaller and hugely successful films with younger directors. But his next shot out of the park has to be a sci-fi film with Shankar. Reason: Ra-One was a total misfire. But there is one big scifi film in Hindi waiting to be made…and the only one who can make it is Shankar. Sharukh missed the chance of his life in letting Robot go..and like many times in the past Shahrukh’s loss is Aamir’s gain. And the only thing that could go against Shankr, his excesses and his gaps in connecting with the northern audiences, can be bridged by Aamir’s script sense and involvement. If he could do that with Gowarikar, Amol Gupte, Rakesh Mehra, Murugudoss, Anusha rizvi and Abhinay Deo .. he can surely do it with Shankar.
“But his next shot out of the park has to be a sci-fi film with Shankar”- where is the official announcement for this film??? if Shankar is directing it – that is another 300 cr film for aamir for sure
PK restores faith in Bollywood audience. When utter garbage movies like Kick and HNY were the highest grossers of the year, you wonder are audience of Hindi cinema brain dead .
The movies were so bad. Kick was a atrocious rehash of Dhoom 2 and Jugnu. HNY was bankrupt man utterly boring version of Oceans 13 which itself was terrible. I have seen some bad movies in the last five years but these two take the cake. if you go purely on entertainment value these two were pathetic Actually even a Bang Bang was more entertaining . PK however is in a totally different stratosphere. It is a pity it did not collect 100 crore in second week due to some fanatics banning an cold wave.
This record will be broken in 2019 by Christmas release by Raju Hirani starring RK and HRO a homage to inception of Google
girishjohar @ DM FAV RT ? 5 hours ago
Arree Baba, the UP CM, downloaded #PK from licensed & authorised UFO digital facilty, not from a piracy link,hope all controversies rest now
Aamir and Hirani’s power reigns supreme. Without any shred of doubt Hirani is the most successful director in Hindi cinema today, and one in a very long time.
Also Aamir probably had the biggest role to play in Dhoom 3’s success, other than the general interest in the franchise. There’s no way a crap like that would otherwise not crash after the first weekend. It was all because of the goodwill he had attained with the mass audience in his commercial endeavours Ghajini and 3 idiots.
Would be interesting to see what the loons on the right do when Bajirao Mastani releases. The story is one of reverse love jihad! Fireworks will surely ensue but from the other right.
PK Hits 500 Crore Worldwide Heads For 600 Crore
Saturday 03 January 2015 12.00 IST
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PK has touched the 500 crore mark worldwide in two weeks making it the second film after Dhoom 3 to cross 500 crore. The film has grossed 368 crore (Gross) in India and 130 crore in Overseas in two weeks.
The film is looking to be the first film to go over 600 crore mark worldwide. It is already the record grosser in India though overseas it has a long way to go catch the $31.5 million total of Dhoom 2. The film has phenomenaly well in US/Canada and Australia but other markets are not so strong especially Gulf where it may not even be the biggest of the year. United Kingdom, Pakistan and Nepal are below record levels.
Still the film should just about make it above 600 crore worldwide as around $26 million in Overseas will be enough and it should reach that at least.
Ugly Flops PK Is An All Time Blockbuster
Saturday 03 January 2015 11.30 IST
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Mumbai Can Dance Saala and Take It Easy opened poorly giving them no chance at the box office. The first mentioned will get better collections due to wider release but they will in lakhs for the week.
Ugly grossed a poor 3.25 crore nett in its first week though collections were steady on weekdays at very low levels. The film had struggles to find distributors for a release and after the results it was probably better it stayed in the cans as the release has turned out a waste of time and money. FLOP
PK has grossed 277 crore nett in two weeks making it the highest grossing film of all time. The film is looking at a lifetime total of over 325 crore nett. ALL TIME BLOCKBUSTER
Action Jackson will finish with business of 57.50 crore nett. FLOP
PK Third Friday Business
Saturday 03 January 2015 12.00 IST
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PK grossed around 6.25 crore nett on its third Friday taking its total to over 283 crore nett. The film should hit the 300 crore nett mark before the end of business on Sunday.
There is a bigger drop in the third week than the second week as the third Friday has dropped around 56% from the previous one while the second Friday had dropped 45%. As the collections are lower there is a chance of higher jumps on weekdays so a 25 crore nett third weekend is a possibility and with that a third week record will be assured.
The lifetime business of the film is looking to finish in the 330-340 crore nett range with a distributor share of 160-165 crore.
Aamir has done some crazy stuff at BO since last few years. And in last 2 years he probaby will end up close to 1200 crores combined gross worldwide in just 2 movies. Plus he will be having top 2 grossers in India and top 3 grossers worldwide (PK will cross 25 million at least). Also if PK manages 640 crores gross worldwide it will be first to 100 million dollars gross world wide. I think first for an Indian movie.
Any other star and their fans along with media would have used loudest of speakers and screamed out loud with slogans of Badshah, God and what not. But this guy is quitely watching the show and taking the treatment of a step brother or son. Well his guts are hated by many. He is making job tougher for others. First he used to take lot of critical acclaim and he was hated for trying to raise the bar with quality, now he has been doing the same with BO and setting the benchmark for others to catch up. When I read these BO articles I feel like they are in utter shock and don’t know what to say.
Anyways I think Aamir knows 400 net in Indian is in his grasp. He needs a good script with universal appeal. PK was good but was flawed and needed an awesome performance from him to sail it through. D3 was utter shit. And look what he has managed. Go Aamir Go!!
Anyways if he manages another RDB kinda movie I will be more pleased.
unless the 3 Khans come in a movie together…or hell even two of the three come together…this record presumed record of 320-330cr is going to stay for awhile IMO. Reaching 300cr isn’t cake walk just because PK is making it look like it is.
There really is no point in elaborating on them. Yet it would be in order to suggest that Hindus, or those among them who are offended by PK, need not emulate either Muslims or Christians. How else would we as a nation be different from those countries that have banned Exodus as a brazen demonstration of their anti-Semitism – See more at: http://www.mid-day.com/articles/pk-was-a-trap-and-the-naive-stepped-into-it/15884194#sthash.xrWZnpyi.dpuf
All right thinking people – and there is no ideological angle to that – would agree that PK the Alien has dialled the right number in identifying godmen as mere mortal (and mercenary) managers. Nor are the film’s detractors wrong when they say that it mostly targets such charlatans from the Hindu religion. Given that most Indians are Hindu, it is logical that most charlatan godmen would also be so-called Hindus. http://blogs.economictimes.indiatimes.com/SilkStalkings/pk-row-dont-blame-charlatans-blame-blind-faith/
Not surprised with this known right wing journo piece.Nice attempt on his part to dismiss PK( apparently it would have sunk like Haider), vilify its Muslim leading man, ignore the Hindu creators of the film, throw a swipe at ‘loathsome Leela Samson’ ( all along known to us Southies as a dancer cum former boss of Kalakshetra)…on par. But PK was a hit right from its first weekend, through the first week, on course for a great second weekend– when the protests became big and bad.
yes journalist is trash and its convicted criminal like sanjay dutt (on terror charges)giving messages, like akhilish yadav promoting privacy (even by making movie tax free) etc
The Pakistani TV channel, also believed to be linked to terrorist groups, was associated with a promotional event for the film in Dubai.
MADHAV NALAPAT New Delhi | 3rd Jan 2015
Officials regard reports of Pakistan-based ARY (Abdul Rehman Yakub) television channel being associated with a function connected with the promotion of the film PK in Dubai as “unfortunate”, because of that company’s perceived links with terror groups as well as with the state agency in Pakistan, which is the primary sponsor of such groups on the sub-continent, the Inter Services Intelligence (ISI). Its founder A.R. Yakub was an associate of Iqbal Mirchi, who was wanted for the 1993 Mumbai blasts and was placed in the Specially Designated Terrorist list by the UN, the UK and the US despite his linkages with the Pakistan establishment. The channel sought entry into India in 2007 through an attempted partnership with an Indian company, which ran a Punjabi channel as well as a Gujarati channel. Their plan was to set up an “ARY Just for India” channel. However, intelligence inputs from R&AW about some of the promoters of this channel led to permission being refused. However, officials say that entry into the Indian market continues to be a high priority for the channel, and that it is actively searching for partners which would enable this.
Entry into the film industry would be a plus for a Pakistan-based company eager to expand the reach of its patrons into locations in India. However, as yet, no concrete evidence has emerged of a business link between the producers of PK and ARY, barring a function in Dubai reportedly attended by both sides. A BJP leader, Subramanian Swamy, has called for an investigation into the funding of the film, which hopefully will reveal more details than what is presently available. An official claimed that the channel “appears to have used the tax haven route to make investments in India”, principally in Hyderabad and Mumbai.
ARY’s affiliate in the UK, ARY Digital UK, found itself under investigation by authorities in London during 2004-05 on suspicion of being associated with hawala channels. Incidentally, the UK was the favoured domicile of A.R. Yakub, and it was in that country that he passed away last year. He became a billionaire through gold trading in Dubai It is not a secret that huge profits were made in that trade through smuggling of the precious metal into India during the period when there were severe curbs on legal private import of gold into India. Yakub was close to the Bhutto family and is suspected of having been a front for some of the money kept abroad of that super-rich political dynasty. He was also known to Mullah Omar, and is known by intelligence agencies in India of having assisted the Taliban, presumably on the request of the ISI. More ominously, the ARY Group was alleged by agencies in India of having provided funding to ULFA in Assam to enable the group to secure sophisticated weapons through Bangladesh, a country where ARY has extensive contacts, especially within the groups close to former Prime Minister Khaleda Zia, a known backer of Pakistan against India, but who is also a favourite of Washington. An arms consignment designated for ULFA was seized from two vessels at Chittagong port in 2004 after an alert from Delhi, but others are known to have got away. Interestingly, A.R. Yakub was close to Dr Abdul Qadeer Khan, the “father” of the Pakistan nuclear bomb and has been accused by agencies in the US and India of having been a front for the assets of the nuclear scientist, who set up a merchandise depot for sensitive nuclear technology before it was shut down because of US pressure.
ARY Digital and ARY Aurum Plus are some of the other businesses of the group. Its bullion business suffered a setback in 2005 when the London Bullion Market Association cancelled its licence after an investigation into a UAE-based affiliate. The investigation focused on allegations of money laundering, narco trafficking and terror financing, although details have not been released. Intelligence agencies in India warn that the group has extensive ties to the ISI. A senior official claimed that the group has “often facilitated the ISI in its global operations”. A colleague pointed out that Yakub “was (alleged to have been) the intermediary between the Taliban in Afghanistan and tribal groups in Pakistan, theologically and operationally allied to that militia”. Yakub was close to Pervez Musharraf. In 2002, former PM Benazir Bhutto was convicted on corruption charges for making ARY Gold the monopoly importer of the precious metal into Pakistan, from which country a significant chunk gets smuggled into India via the porous coasts of the two countries.
In the UK, group affiliates have been accused of assisting Taliban leaders to convert their cash hoards into gold, thereby converting illegal cash (often the proceeds of narcotics or terror operations) into a commodity freely traded in legal exchanges worldwide. Interestingly, Yakub had visited India in 2008, holding discussions with two Mumbai-based jewellers.
Should Finance Minister Arun Jaitley and Home Minister Rajnath Singh accept Swamy’s suggestion that a probe be launched into the funding of PK, hopefully such an investigation will also zero in on ARY, which has for years been active in India through intermediaries and cutouts, and which has extensive links that are problematic from a security standpoint. What would be interesting to find out is exactly who in the Indian establishment lobbied for ARY media entities to set up shop in India, before such moves were scuttled by adverse intelligence on the group. It needs to be reiterated that thus far, there has been no substantive evidence produced of any formal linkage between the producers of PK and ARY, and that the truth can emerge only after the suggested probe has been completed, if it is begun.
nothing has been refuted but the article at huffington takes content from twitter source of swamy and ya neither its junk otherwise defamation can be
mr satyam in india allready da vinci code was banned and vishwaroopam was held hostage,btw do you even known rajendra kumar was first to made mauna baba way back
refute these if you can and will help…just a year back i put a tweet by him on this forum where as usual media was fun of him when he said sunanda was murdered with pics to show with reason…btw have you seen today news
refute these if you can and will help…just a year back i put a tweet by him on this forum when as usual media was fun of him when he said sunanda pushkar was murdered with pics to show and reason…btw have you seen today news
Saw PK. Loved it. Will watch it again.
For me PK = Munnabhais. It is more serious than other Hirani films. Im extremely happy that people are watching it and making it a success. 3idiot was over rated.
Its thoroughly entertaining to see the VHP and bajrangdallis getting all worked up over the content of the film because it educates the people against such thugs.
Even liked the more serious second half. Loved the way the film ended. Just as one was getting all teary eyed came the spaceship and Ranbir Kapoor with Amir Khan recounting the four important points to remember on earth. LOL
The last bit, four lines from PK, advice to ths newbie alien visitor, what not to do and do ( hide your remotva locket deep inside you!)– why should people take offence to this benign funny film?
OG,
Glad you liked it.👍
One quick question.
Did you happen to notice one actor in a rather inconsequential role? Wouldn’t blame you if you didnt.
Kinda easy to miss as it is one of those blink and miss roles. The actor’s name is Aamir or something like that.
@rajen
LOL.
His character was lovable like munnabhai unlike the three idiot one.
If you belive me now you should believe my earlier views too. They are all genuine and true.
“the film because it educates the people against such thugs.”
You may want to read up on works of Adi Shankara. He too warned people against such thugs. They always existed, will exist and continue to exist in future. As long as people want quick fixes not have no quest or interest in God per se. 🙂
In that I personally don’t think people can be “cheated”. In India even auto rickshaw driver cannot cheat people. People are not so dump!!! lol
I am regularly cheated by some autorikshaw drivers and I dont mind some cheating because they atleast take me to my destination without harming me. The datacard people, the insurance people cheat us with their trickery and we become wiser after being cheated. The list is endless. From the grocery store to the airline bookings, we are regularly cheated so many times that we are surprised when someone is honest.
When they don’t cheat, e.g rickshaw drivers, we don’t bother to tip them either. Same in restaurants. We are worst tippers. So then they no ‘options’ but build in their tips. With godmen, you are NEVER seeking god. All you are seeking is getting rid of your problems. If that is your goal, then they have right to charge appropriate ‘fee’. It is just a business transactions. The bottom line is janta is not bholi-bhali. I know where I need to go to seek real knowledge. And what real knowledge is all about. It it lot of hard work on part of the ‘student’ of religion or seeker of truth. It is a lifelong quest. Sometimes people are desperate. Sometimes they are vulnerable. But it is not always the case.
Yeah! I can’t for the life of me understand why he got mixed up in this (unless it was simply a question of appearance-for-pay, but he doesn’t strike me as that kinda guy).
PK At 292 Crore Nett After Sixteen Days
Sunday 04 January 2014 12.00 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
PK has grossed 15 crore nett in two days of its third week and around 292 crore nett in its total run. The two day collection for the third week as follows.
Friday – 6,50,00,000
Saturda – 8,50,00,000
Total – 15,00,00,000
The film will cross 300 crore nett today and should gross a record 26 crore nett in its third weekend.
PK Grosses 305 Crore Nett In Seventeen Days
Monday 05 January 2014 09.30 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
PK has grossed 27.75 crore nett inits third weekend to take its lifetime totao to 305 crore nett. The third weekend collection is as follows.
Friday – 6,50,00,000
Saturday- 8,50,00,000
Sunday – 12,75,00,000
Total – 27,75,00,000
The third weekend is a record and the third week will also set a record with a 40 crore nett plus total. The film may go and touch the 350 crore nett mark..
yes even this weekend the trending has been fantastic. It’s really done exceptionally well and at 350 it will have come very close to doubling it’s week 1 number. So once again this is always possible irrespective of the initial once a film is truly liked. But sure enough we’ll find the same arguments from people saying how more than 200 or 230 or whatever isn’t possible, how films make most of their money initially these days. etc etc etc. Believe it or not the same claims were being made when films were going from 40 crore initials to 65 crore final grosses. And then again at every other point the very same.
yeah I read the same insane theories that if a film opens at near 200cr these days…it is bound to crash the second week because people have already seen it. Um yeah if the film is not liked…they will only watch it once! If a film is truly loved…the above results will happen! And I still don’t think this is “the one”…the capacity is higher in my estimation for “the one”.
I agree this is not the benchmark. PK is a film somewhat below the euphoria 3 Idiots created. If I were to recaliberate it to 2009 numbers it would be a 150 cr film against 3 Idiots 200 cr. Still a genuine big hit. Genuine being the key word.
The great films tend to have a high repeat and recall value. Most if not all the biggies since 3 Idiots fell well short. One does not need box office numbers or trends to prove it (although PK has done just that). But general judgement on the quality aspect of a film is enough.
Unfortunately the Bang Bangs and HNY of this world will always attract a certain media attention and fans will always follow it. The reality is a big film with a huge opening week can follow through and accumulate huge totals in week two and week three. Good films do this. Bad films dont.
I have some sympathy for the naysayers. A bigger and growing market does mean an element of front loading and audience exhaustion. But never to the extent that one makes everrything after week one redundant to a films performance. I even saw it with D3. Vastly underperformed and that was clear from the 2nd week to 3rd week drop. The difference with D3 vs other biggies was it had a huge buzz and must see written all over it. It just elongated the performance over a 2 week period. But PK is a genuine performer. Week 2 drop less than 50% and week three will be just over 50% but closer to 50% than 60%. And the norm for every big grosser since 3 Idiots has been 70% or more.
Well now that PK = 2x HNY
SRK shud finally wake up and smell the coffee. If he wants to stay relevant, he really needs to rejigger his future choices. But, perhaps, with that “second richest entertainer of the world” tag, he just does not care anymore. He just meanj bijiness.
As for Sallu, one cannot really expect him to change anything. Whatever he does is linked to his persona.
The fat lady actually sang her final note in Dec 2008. She’s actually skinny now. Unfortunately her bellowing was so loud back then that it deafened some of these fans. So instead of hearing the fat lady singing, they were just listening to their own thoughts for the past 6 years. Some still are. Some have already hibernated. Some are conjuring up the next set of cunning excuses.
Here the smackdown of 2x in score is really terrible. The RBNDJ-Ghajini or CE-D3 beat downs were not of this scale, and so it gave SRK some hope to catch up in the future. The SRK-AK story will turn out to be the quintessential hare-tortoise story.
As we begin the new year, we delve into a topic that is now increasingly occupying the centre stage of public discourse since the new government took over in New Delhi. Since our schooldays, we have often come across the term “idea of India”, never knowing fully well what it means or what it represents. Does it refer to our civilisational construct or to the broad Nehruvian consensus on which the founding fathers of our Constitution reposed their faith in the ‘Idea of India’ as a nation state? Are some of those basic tenets of the ‘idea’ – pluralism and diversity – under threat or are they being challenged by an idea of singular culture, homogeneity Watch the debate on The Big Fight.
Satyam: “But sure enough we’ll find the same arguments from people saying how more than 200 or 230 or whatever isn’t possible, how films make most of their money initially these days.” I dont see how PK disproves it. Let’s say it makes 350 cr. Out of this 320 cr (92%) would have been made in the first 3 weeks. So it does show that today, even fora tremendously liked film, more than 90% of the money us earned in the first 3 weeks. Trending has to be considered for this or at best 4 weeks period. Which means we have to track figures on a daily basis and draw the graph rather than weeks.
trending could be calculated based on whatever you consider smallest part. It could be days, weekend, week. There is no doubt we have front loading with screen counts. But inspite of that a well liked movie holds well in further weeks.
There is a difference in making most of the money in first week versus three weeks. It is not rocket science. Doubling of first week is a fair yardstick.
aamir has entered a different league now – down below are hazy stars like srk/sallu/akki/aj/hr etc. – the man has created such a place for him that now onwards whatever he does (and I am sure in next 5-7 years – he will have 3 to 4 more diverse movies) – it will take him to the heights and popularity which Big B / DK / RK (Kaka) enjoyed….not that he is not enjoying it at the moment but he has told repeatedly that he wants to be the most loved actor in this country….
Finally saw Haider. I have to admit that I Did not find it as offensive as it was made out to be, aside from the KPs missing entirely. But that was obvious given that the screenplay is by a known separatist.
Tabu and Kay Kay were simple brilliant, Shahid’s performance was IMO overrated.
The film itself had too many plot holes and silliness. Vishal should refrain from comedy as the Salman fans got on my nerves.
“It was my duty to make a film on Kashmir. More than a duty, it was my job to reflect the reality, as I saw it. I didn’t take any sides. That’s the rule of a filmmaker. With Haider, I was an objective observer.”
I had issue with Army narrative part. Whatever has happened to Shahid’s character or current situation is due to Army heavy-handedness. IMO that view was more like disgruntled Kashmiri or Pakistani view and not the complete view.
Munna- IMO The betrayal by his mom and Uncle had a bigger impact on his situation.
More than the Army, The J&K police has been shown in bad light.
But there were too many holes-
1.The Salman fans appear right when Shahid is about be be arrested.
2.Even after knowing that Shahid has gun, the whole Naach-gaaana keeps going on and is allowed by KK.
3.Shaid conveniently escapes twice- once after Naachgaana, and then after killing the Police Commissioner
4. The DCP very conveniently spots the red scarf, Tabu spots the phone number , Shradha spots the gun and on it goes !!
5.The dead body is conveniently to be cremated at the very same Kabristan where Shahid is taking refuge,
Lekin I guess Kashyap and Bhardwaj ko sab maaf hai !!!
Rockstar, if you’re going to post such massive pieces put up a selection followed by a link. Otherwise it takes up unnecessary space specially when it’s not linked to any movie discussion as such.
So basically at 305 crores it is almost 60 crores ahead of Kick, and over a 100 crore plus on HNY. The scale with which it has gone over Dhoom3 now is commendable. Only big challange this year seems to be coming from PRDP..music and story has to do the trick for it to last and go past PK.
While it is all good to get swayed in euphoria over PK’s monetary success, one should not forget to add that the increased ticket prices did play a competent role in racing toward the goal faster..
I am not talking about this just to throw a spanner in the works: And I am not blaming VVC/AK/RH alone for this. If the ‘one and only’ Rajnikanth’s producers can indulge in such vulgarity then I guess VVC/AK/RH cannot be witch-hunted. This is a dirty tactic being employed by the biggies and is becoming a norm and I sure as hell am surprised at the spending power of middle-class India. Apart from these ridiculous prices in multi-plexes, a family of 4 also has to shell out exorbitant money for a cup of tea which is not even half of a urine sample that labs collect. [Correct me if I am wrong, but I think the BIGGEST bullies of Hi-fi, YashRaj hadn’t increased their prices for D3 I think, which is ironic].
It is true that one would rather have Hirani making more money than a Farah, but really, this ‘norm’ of jacking up prices is really abominable.
They do jack up prices in the US too, but really only for the 3D and the IMAX ones. Alternately, you do not have a WILD ‘reduce’ its prices just because it is considered a high-art movie!! So a well-liked WILD stands as much as a chance of making expected money as a JOHN WICK or EQUALIZER!!
There is far more consistency in the US than in India on these prices..
I think it is all a demand and supply thing. Hirani and Aamir happen once in 2 years or 3 years. Unlike Yashraj’s who churn out films left right and centre from big budget to small budget movies. And public had a choice to reject which they exercised for a movie like Talaash. And repeat audience tells a different story. One will be cheated once, not twice or thrice.
You cannot justify this vulgarity with a demand and supply thing. If you are SO SURE of your product – content driven et al – what is the need to jack up prices? You are going to get there. Remember, you are not the guys who are NOT into front-loading..
And the irony is, this is RKH — who arguably carries over the mantle of ‘middle-class’ India from Mukherjee!! I am quite positive Mukherjee would have thwacked VVC/HIRANI for this baniyagiri.
And I know the logic people come up with for this – Don’t watch if you feel it pinches your pocket. Of course it is damn easy to say. But in an industry that produces 5 decent films per year out of 500, who wouldn’t be eager to watch it? Irrespective of the price? So the job is done. You have already emotionally black-mailed the viewer. The carrot and stick policy has worked!!
Thankfully, they did not jack up the prices for PK here in US. It was the usual price unlike the horrendous Rajnikanth movie..
As I said before, I am not targeting only these film-makers. But it is worrisome if even the almost-extinct species of quality film-makers and producers resort to such tactics..
This piece from BOI, which i agree with, will make Satyam, Jayshah, Prasad, Idea, Aamirfan and Utkal da, a bit upset…infact might upset. OK, so they will try to cool it off by saying BOI is biased…blah blah or will not respond.
But the fact is trust can be painful. 🙂
Q. Is Aamir Khan number one beating Shahrukh Khan and Salman Khan now after PK and Dhoom 3
Ans. Salman Khan and Shahrukh Khan are the top two stars and that does not really alter after P.K as their huge popularity is unaffected. The lifetime numbers are more about content than star power. Salman Khan and Shahrukh Khan will generally get the best initials and they also have more volume of releases over last five years be it Aamir Khan or Hrithik Roshan.
K. Kullar
Q. Can you tell me actual PK opening day figure as Happy New Year actual was a lot lower than the estimate given on day one?
Ans. 25.68 crore nett.
B. Padmakar
Q. You have said that Salman Khan is star of the year but Kick was not that good acting by Salman Khan where as Aamir Khan has given award winning performance in P.K. so he should be top star of 2014?
Ans. Its not about award winning performances thats all subjective and about opinions. There will be 100 of award ceremonies and each will give according to their opinion. From a box office point of view Salman Khan did more for Kick than what Aamir Khan did for P.K.
L. Nair
They are funy people. Their nos. too keep going up and down illogically and can change even after 4-5 years. And this is how you loose crediblity and we have Rentraks coming into our market to handle our BO.
BOI lives in an alternate universe. Fortunately their reporting of BO numbers is relatively honest. Their numbers make a mockery of their biased commentary, and even they cannot help it when Aamir smacks the other 2 Khans in this way every year.
yeah PK has unhinged them.. they never expected this kind of success. Specially with respect to Salman they’ve had a spate of write-ups, each one more ridiculous than the other. But there’s also the absurd logic many have used in the past. If you do a great film, if you work with the best directors etc you’re penalized for this. So in Hollywood terms Leo doesn’t get credit for working with the likes of Scorsese or Nolan or whoever. What matters more is being vin Diesel! Of course Leo often doesn’t have the biggest grossers or anything close to this because of the kind of cinema he usually does. With Aamir it’s not even this. He’s doing Hirani and he’s getting the biggest grossers! There’s no case here either way which is why I suppose ‘madness’ is one kind of response.
Naveen, i saw the post on BOI and from the objectivity i will agree that Salman was a bigger factor in Kick coz of the new director. However Kick was an EID release. Pre Eid factor and Non Holiday start of PK remains the same. You have to also compare how the 2 movie got promoted;
Kick was all out promotions on KNWK etc. PK was less is more approach. So simply stating that Salman did more for Kick is not supported with any logic.
Aamir plus Rajkumar Hirani is a supreme combination that was Salman and Sooraj Barjatya post HAHK. But one cannot blame Aamir to pick great scripts and movies that break records on records. There’s a reason by Raju Hirani writes a movie and bases his character on Aamir, he sees that justice and boxoffice angle in him.
Same is with him seeing the same in Ranbir Kapoor for the Sanjay Dutt biopic. I am sure it would be entertaining and blockbuster material.
The real test for Salman now is to bring PRDP to a huge level, its a Diwali release for him after a long time. There’s no pre eid BS here. Its Rajshree, Sooraj, Salman..they will promote it like from the makers of HAHK etc and add to that Salman’s brand value.
What has happened in last 7 years is Aamir has got his continued good movies with box office leverage..which wasn’t the case earlier.
“There will be 100 of award ceremonies and each will give according to their opinion. From a box office point of view Salman Khan did more for Kick than what Aamir Khan did for P.K.” Awards are as per opinion. And what is this? He has some kind of a measuring instrument to measure how much Salman did for Kick and how much Aamir Khan did for PK.?
What do they mean content? Why cant Shahrukh or Salman match Dhoom 3 after one year? What was so earth-shattering about Dhom 3’s ‘ content’? Why cant Shahrukh with Aditya Chopra as writer and Yash Chopra as director and Katrina and anushka as co-stars notch up even 150crores? And Salman and Shahrukh are bigger stars? Give me a break!
The other funny thing is the lumping of Salman and SRK as stars who do more films than Aamir: Salman yes, but Aamir, Hrithik and SRK are all now firmly in the one film-a-year paradigm for the most part…
PK success seems to have hurt BOI the most i would like to know how do you decide who is the biggest star what is the criteria here ? always thought its the combination of everything from opening day numbers to weekend to lifetime numbers here BOI is saying that if u get the biggest numbers on day1 you are the biggest star nothing else matters after that really ? As for opening day numbers Aamir broke a holiday release chennai express with a non holiday release Dhoom 3 had the biggest weekend too but at that time they said the film had that grand look which helped the film got the kind of initial it did but the same can be said about Kick and Hny too no ? both films were shot on a very large scale both had that grand look BOI talked about and budget wise both films were far more expensive than PK inspite all that PK managed to do as much as Kick on opening day and easily had a bigger weekend and very nearly matched Hny but is it even fair to compare a film like PK which was more of a multiplex film to Kick which catered to both multiplexes as well as single screens equally . From a boxoffice point of view Salman khan did more for Kick than Aamir khan for PK ? LOL what a ridiculous thing to say have certainly made their agenda very clear constantly putting down Aamir they have done that in the past they are doing it now again .
it is clear BOI is biased towards SRK and against AAMIR.even after all this u name it and aamir has done it all opening day,weekend,week to week records and lifetime.no one is even comprable to AAMIR and they r talking this non sense.after 3idiots,BOI was asked wether AAMIR is no.1 they at time said without a doubt and AAMIR is having highest high at that time
Not just BOI, most popular BO sources and part of media who generally participate the most into BO reporting (generally inflated) don’t know what has hit them since 2008. They can’t believe and trying to somehow turn back time. LOL.And Aamir keeps making them look like bunch of idiots.
I’ve been active on these sites but with the same user name. Began following NG in 2006 and got smitten by Satyam’s very lengthy but fabulous posts on almost all the topics one could think of besides cinema. Since then it’s become kind of addiction to visit NG earlier and afterwards Satyamshot at least once a day. And i owe Satyam a lot in making me what i’m today as his conduct has been worth emulating all these years under all the circumstances and his oceanic knowledge keeps surprising me. All the members of this blog have taught me a thing or two and it feels as if we all are a big family. I wish that this blog keeps flourishing in the years to come. A proud Satyamshite 🙂 .
Ha! Just kidding (or half-kidding).. but thanks for this comment.. I honestly cannot agree with very much here but I’m certainly glad that you’re part of the discussion..
@ Saurabh With Aman for a very short period on NG and myselfaamir on Indiafm. Feels great when somebody still remembers you after so many years. Hope to see you here more often.
i don’t know what else aamir needs to do to become no.1 he is no.1 from 2008,many wld ask why 2008 bcoz ghajini hype even before release was unprecedented and was no. 1 awaited movie
The case for Aamir Khan being No 1 at the moment exists esp after Dhoom 3 and now PK. However common perception outside of Aamir khan fans are very important. Unless they tell that he is No 1, he cannot be.
In case of Aamitabh it happenned.
In case of Salman it happened.
I do not know what Aamir has to do but he doesn’t commance the respect the way Salman does. Now I do not know why?
I think BOI is both right and wrong when they say Salman and Srk do more for their movie than Aamir.
Right because
Aamir can probably sell a Dhoom type Crap once or twice..but not in succession.
Srk or Salman on the other hand have been selling the same shit for years and still getting away with successes (although nowhere close to aamir)
Wrong because
What an Aamir can do for a Talaash, TZP, Lagaan or PK is what srk or salman can’t for such movies.. We saw what happened to Swades or Paheli..,.or the least masala of Salman’s collection- Jai Ho..(sorry didn’t have a better example)..Not many can give a 90 crore somewhat success out of a movie like Talaash.
So hence forth top stars need to keep working in crap movies to show their BO and star power and show how much they can sell crap for. What a logic!! This is Bull***. Aamir will be follwed and respected for what he is and his work. These sites are good only for checking nos. which too get questioned time and again.
One just needs to do a inflation adjusted list of all Khan movies (in which they were leads) since 2004 (ie the year Aamir came back from exile). Then do an average per movie. Doodh ka Doodh paani ka paani nazar aa jayega.
All these adjustments can be very subjective/perceptive. Not a fan of those. Jayshah can give out a try though if he is interested, but I am not going go use that outcome as any parameter. There are too many ifs and buts and genre also plays part.
If 100 crore gets 1 point, 200 crores should get 4 points and 250 crores should get 8 points and 300 crores should get 16 points. And 400 crores should get 64 points! It gets difficult after 250 crores. If people are ready to pay more to watch a certain movie, it means the movie is in demand and they dont want to wait for months to watch it on tv or dvds. If SRK doubles ticket prices for his next movie and can get 400 crores, his getting 64 points is the mark of star power of SRK. Movies run on star power first, content next and when star power and content both combine we get ATBB.
In related news, Linga’s distributors are suing producers and Rajnikanth for their losses and going on a fast.
Sounds stupid but you can’t make this up!
For Lalita Ben…….
On the other hand, a Malayalam filmmaker has been running from pillar to post for nearly two years after his film was denied censor certificate, allegedly for hurting the sentiments of the Christian community.
How can a movie cause any harm to the Religion ( sure, true, it does not ).
But then how does Islam in khatrey mein, by a police drill wearing skull caps ( Sickularists)
A very tight slap to the Commies/ Paki Bhakts….
GAURAV C SAWANT
@gauravcsawant Sympathy for Sohrabuddin, Ishrat Jahan, Batla House, putting Delhi Police, Navy, Coast Guard in the dock! What’s the game plan?
They have not been able to prove this and are coming up with silly answers. This Terror boat myth was to take people’s attention away from their Land Grabbing ordinance.
Every time there is something seriously wrong going on (which is most of the time) they come up witrh such stories to boost their image and with the media behind them in full force people are fed with lies and nonsense all the time.
Now they want to divert attention further by bringing in Sunanda case while giving vclean chits to their gundas like Amit Shah. Plus nothing going on with all the Nihal Chands and other criminals sitting in parliament.
hobnobbing with separatists and PDP types doesn’t tarnish their image proving the mafia that’s at work (politicians + media + cronies)
Opener Shikhar Dhawan, who struggled in the ongoing Test series against Australia, has also been retained in the squad, and Gavaskar feels he is a better choice over Murali Vijay in the limited-over format.
“The World Cup is 50-over format and this is the format which will suit Dhawan more,” he pointed out.
The fans have taken to the social networking sites after the World Cup squad was announced on Tuesday, criticising Stuart Binny’s inclusion in the side. His father, Roger, incidentally is a member of the selection committee.
But Gavaskar lashed out at the fans, stating that he would have also picked Stuart, irrespective of his father being a former teammate.
LOL. I don’t fancy India’s chances at all. I think the Aussies will win and will have extra motivation following Phil Hughes death. My outside pick is West Indies. Can’t see Asian team succeeding on the fast bouncy wickets. In test cricket at least India are batting well enough and it is true batting well enough was enough in the last world cup because home advantage covered any flaws in bowling attack. But bowling will be a huge concern. Would love to be proved otherwise.
I am not sure why Stuart Binny gets so many chanes. He has done nothing.
I cant understand Munna’s comment.
Just because the nation is poor or vast segments of its population are, does it make
Taking part in and following a sport and taking pride in a nation’s victory an unworthy pursuit?
It actually helps as it takes people’s minds away from the humdrum and difficulties of a daily grind. Cricket is a sport that is followed and enjoyed by all classes and its popularity
Cuts across all boundaries .
I think we should compete best of the abilities. But there are other things in life. http://greatbong.net/2015/01/02/on-dhoni/
I prefer more like Dhoni’s approach than other mention cricketers.
Don’t think Binny has got many chances at all- in the last ODI he played he had a 6 wicket haul (now he certainly he isn’t a good enough bowler to get too many fifers, here too he was playing against a minnow). He was then criminally underused by Dhoni in the England tests (though there too he did get a fifty). Finally the guy has been taken because few of the World Cup matches will be played in New Zealand where the bowl swings and Binny, like his father, can swing the bowl (apart from the fact that he gives Dhoni the option of playing a fast-bowling allrounder: had the World Cup been in India I doubt he would have been in the squad). I wish they would have selected Pravin Kumar though- this guy certainly wrecked his career (mainly because of poor fitness), but as far as I am concerned he has been the only swing bowler of any real class since Kapil. The guy bowled one of the best spells by an Indian pace bowler in the 2008 VB series finals against the Aussies and couple that with his ability to take wickets in the first 5-6 overs, he would have been very valuable in the World Cup (especially since the current pace attack is completely toothless)
Saurabh, would love to hear from you about PK and Haider. Lately you have been very infrequent here, love reading yours, Qalandar’s, GF’s, Sanjana’s, Di’s, Bliss’s, Munna’s, Oldgold’s, Jayshah’s, Nykavi’s insightful views.
I watched two of her videos. Seems like an ambitious lady but I don’t want her to end up like one mrs Tharoor.
Below is one interesting comment 🙂
“First wife was 21 year old Jewish girl, when he was 40 years old.
Second wife a 41 year old British weather girl, and a professional tango dancer, when he is 62. what an achievement. keep the good work Imran khan we will all learn tango.”
PK Hits Century In Mumbai Circuit
Tuesday 06 January 2014 10.30 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
PK hit the 100 crore nett mark in Mumbai in eighteen days. It is the first time that a film has a 100 crore nett in any circuit. The Mumbai circuit collections are as follows.
Week One – 61,84,00,000
Week Two – 29,73,00,000
Week Three – 8,75,00,000 apprx (4 days)
Total 1,00,32,00,000
The pace in third weekend did slow in Mumbai circuit compared to other circuits but still it should finish close to 110 crore nett mark.
It was obvious to just about everyone in India the day after her death that the poor woman had been murdered. Today Mr. Tharoor was “stunned”. Um, yeah.
This Islamist madness continues. Yesterday it was Istanbul, today it’s Paris. And of course the latter is a much more serious episode. I even hesitate to use the word ‘madness’ inasmuch as it suggests a kind of passive irrationality as opposed to the toxic and cancerous politics it is in the most active sense of the term.
Just to be clear about this (so that no one is confused) I said ‘ Islamist’ not ‘Islamic’. The two are not at all the same.
Islamic and Islamist both sound similar though their meanings are different. France has a history of bloody revolutions and now this killing of 12 is making such a big news. The international media is selective in expressing their shock. Their world is so small and limited.
The third week will see the film doing its best business in Delhi/UP grossing around 10 crore nett which is less than 50% fall from last week. Mumbai circuit will see a 65% drop.
It’s basically heading towards 340-350 crore life totals. Based on the opening week of 182.5 crore, that would indicate average weekly drops of between 52-54%. That’s desperately close to doubling the initial and if one takes stock that the first week had a Xmas day worth 27 crore, you’ve practically got your film that doubled its initial. Yes, in today’s times, of spiralling ticket prices, wide releases, front loading…..a film can double its initial and more in fact. Now cry babies may want to say technically 52-54% is not a double, well technically that is right. Or that this should be a 400 crore film (when a Bang Bang is a 140 crore film!)
But the debate was always it was possible and PK proves this loud and clear. One day a better film (and make no mistake PK has flaws to make it much better, it was not the tight fine polished effort 3 Idiots was or the standout hilarious moments) will come along and provide the message even more profoundly.
2nd weeks don’t need to fall north of 70% and films don’t need to become desperate to scratch around for a few crores in week 2 or 3. Only films “designed” in such a way do this. And proclaiming them to be big hits is only promoting more to be made!
I needn’t remind the naysayers that the records PK is breaking as it will only fuel more idiotic comments from their side…but I would simply like to say…WE TOLD YOU SO!
Every online movie buff is a closet Aamir fan. But they wont admit to it to prove a useless point on forums and FB groups. I bet many of them have already watched PK multiple times.
You mean the Salman or SRK or Hrithik or Akshay fan who secretly watches all of Aamir’s films and secretly likes most of them but still bashes him on forums at every opportunity and “falsely” dislikes his films? And secretly they would have liked “their” star to be in that movie? Really? Are you serious? That is an outrageous observation!
Being movie buffs and part of real discussions, I’m positive they are doing well in life and are sensible enough to appreciate a fine film which is a decent entertainer. They would appreciate an SRK and Akki in the same setup, just like Special 26 was praised to the skies by the same people and Fan and Raees are already being celebrated. With Aamir all sorts of theories suddenly appear which make no sense at all.
Ranbir is a good actor and is capable to act the best and even Aamir appreciates him but seriously if u think that way in his 30 sec stint in PK you just dishing out hatred towards Aamir.
Real shocking news coming out of France with the shootout at the Charlie Hebdo office supposedly because of the cartoons lampooning prophet Mohammed.
I am so glad Raju Hirani and Aamir Khan chose to steer clear of including observations on Islam. Would have been devastating to see them fall prey to such senseless violence
Hirani subtlely made observations about all belief systems about religion is like parents and relatives, an accident which one has not chosen for oneself. The credit or discredit should entirely go to Hirani for script while aamir can be given credit or discredit for his acting prowess.
We should not forget that Mahatma Gandhi, Indira Gandhi, Rajiv Gandhi were murdered in a similar way. Madness and intolerance are not confined to any particular culture or religion. It is in the minds.
“Madness and intolerance are not confined to any particular culture or religion. It is in the minds.”
What a joke.
Madness and intolerance aka terrorism world over is confined to ONE particuler religion. Like it or leave it.
Hirani and Aamir together didn’t have the collective balls to make movie on REAL issue. They picked soft, innocent target to make their 300 crores!!
Aamir acted in Sarfarosh too in which he openly criticised Pakistan and the villain was a pakistani. And he acted as Mangal Pandey, the epitome of patriotism.
Paapaas – greet point on region and religion.
Why do you think the commies support Batala, Ishrat, and the terror boat..in their mind defending Pakistan will win them votes of Indian Muslims.
Sanjana is just echoing the same thing here, not surprised at all !!!
paapas is blind bhakt of omg and I dont need to learn from such a person. Pakistan is synonymous with muslims for many. When did anyone consider Pakistan without their religion? As for you Omrocky, you are obsessed with commies and martians to think of anything else. One obsessed supporting another obsessed.
I dont need to learn from someone who considers an average film like OMG as classic. For your information, I dont consider any of aamir’s films as classic.
The terrorsit angle was the most half baked implementation of the idea. A major part of the climax could have dealt on Islamic terorism but it didn’t. They Chickened out and showed a nonsensical India-Pak thing (the same feel good khichdi that Hirani cooks in almost all his films) instead.
On PK: aamir didn’t blame godmen of any religion..He (pk) just analyzed (and hence criticized) modes of worshipping or instead modes of connecting to God (the telephone to god was a metaphor in case you didn’t notice) It was not about godmen making that call through his chamatkars or even common man making that call through their bribes (baba or no baba), their elaborate pujas, or their kurbaanis.
The Bias is that even though PK was successful in pointing out the wastage of money and resources (and exploitation of faith) in case of Hindu methods (based on that religion) .. He didn’t even once touch the topic of those Islamic teachers that destroy the minds of young kids in madarsaas which is the seed to Islamic terrorism. While a Hindu godmen (Saurabh Shukla) was depicted as Islam hating (in multiple lines in the film)..there wasn’t a simgle instance shown in the movie that showed a muslim maulvi talking about violence against other religions.
OMG was an extremely safe movie. They had a character who din’t believe in God and questioned his existence. They din’t really pick any religion per se. Nor do I remember. They had a few Godmen who resembled real life Godmen and people enjoyed that. I don’t remember anything in Islam or Christianity even close to being questioned. They may have questioned a few hindu ways but that too from someone who had no faith on God.
And they had Akki playing Krishna. Lol. What else Hindu believers want. Their God is shown as existing and gives Hinduism the backing. OMG was only against fake Goldman. It technically din’t question anything else.
I’ve made this point earlier as well but this whole OMG analogy has become really stale by now. Barring with one or two people it was always cynically employed to begin with. But leaving aside this foolishness and leaving aside even the comparison with PK the idea that this is some bold revolutionary movie is frankly utterly absurd. I’ve hardly made this claim for PK either but nonetheless PK is a vastly better film than OMG (a film which I otherwise like) in just about every way. Still it’s one thing to prefer OMG and quite another to go on arguing for its radical nature!
So your grouse is that moulvis were not questioned. You are missing that they made a very strong statement when they showed the blast scene and people dying and aamir mentioned khuda. If we take your argument, then they should have shown babri demolition that preceded these blasts and godhra.This is the reason why even some muslim clerics gave statements against PK hurting thier sentiments.
The amazing fact is that while religious satire in France was gunned down, religious satire in India was wholesomely welcomed and elevated to highest-grossing status. Speaks volumes of Indian society: Middle of the road, with bonhomie at large between disparate groups.
NYKavi: PK or no PK, I don’t think we in India have much to be complacent about when it comes to protecting freedom of expression. India was the first country in the world to ban The Satanic Verses; the CPIM in West Bengal banned a book on Bose’s affair with a European woman, even though there was hardly anything controversial about publishing the man’s own letters to her!; James Laine’s book suggesting that Shivaji might have been born out of wedlock was also banned after hooligans attacked an institute where he had conducted research; two girls were arrested (and later released, mercifully) in Thane after some pretty ordinary FB posts after Bal Thackeray’s death; and there are many more such examples. One might even argue that in India terrorists don’t NEED to attack the Charlie Hebdos of the country because the state will shut things down for them, under the guise of maintaining public order; so no need to kill 12 people as a little hooliganism, some ghundagardi auditions from political groups will get them what they want (in France, they couldn’t so then the terrorists used Plan B, i.e. intimidate private parties).
Q, agree somewhat
While there is no excuse for terrorism and killing, religion and faith is a very sensitive issue and people of all faiths are grappling with it.
There are plenty of other things to question and mock and freedom of expression or not, best to stay away from mocking religion or the symbols or representatives of the religion. Nothing constructive comes out of it.
Something like PK or even OMG is obviously different and safer as they question traditions, practices and intermediaries only. Tho some can’t stach even that.
Lets not go overboard with ‘we in India don’t kill on religious grounds’. We do.
The difference lies in the fact that in India it is the innocent who are targeted for being different.
So much noise about 18 killings in France just because the killers were muslims (not supporting it, I’m absolutely against it) but no noise about the 80+ trubals killed in Assam.
Lets not forget Narendra Dabholkar, killed for fighting against superstition propogated by these holy men.
Also we must not forget the FB post that led to violence and a Pune techy got stoned to death. The leader of this party which unleashed violence is being rewarded by VHP.
Maybe mass killings of this sort has not yet been resorted to but it is slowly moving that way with the same ideology that the counterparts in India adopt.
The love jihad picture of Kareena on the cover of a magazine run by these people is the latest propogating hate.
In short, it is only now that people with similar ideology are feeling free, and their spreading hate is catching up speed day by day.
It’s a crime to say anything against jews in west.
These guys are nutz. Will they also cast aspersions on the International collections. $10M crossed in US, will they now accuse BoxOfficeMojo and other companies of providing incorrect US BO figures?
Madhu Kishwar, Sucheta Dalal et al are just smarting over the fact that PK has been very well liked and their agenda to derail the movie has failed. Thankfully, in India all that these rightwing loons can do is tweet illogical comments. No risk of Paris like attacks here. Aamir/Hirani are safe.
There are good muslims and others.
There are good hindus and others.
Why the others overpower the good ones is the good ones are silent and indecisive. While the others are more organised and ready to fight dirty. The good ones are ready to give up easily and the others take advantage. The good ones are usually timid and paper tigers.
Salma- Sabrina back in full force, comparing terror with Protests . Sick- Sick !!
Indian “liberals” are as predictable as religious bigots. As soon as Islamic terrorists barged into the office of Charlie Hebdo, a French satirical magazine, and killed around a dozen of people, one thought they would shed their predictable behavior of being apologist for Islamic terrorists. But one was expecting too much.
Keh Kar ley lee !! LOL!
Aside- I know Kiran Bedi is getting a lot of flak for this, but I kind of agree with her, why offend unnecessarily in the name of FOE?
There is probably no other country where: It has become a national pastime among its educated class to denigrate its own culture and history, however great that has been over the many millennia of its existence. When great archaeological discoveries of India’s past are found, for example, they are not a subject for national pride but are ridiculed as an exaggeration, if not an invention, as if they represent only the imagination of backward chauvinistic elements within the culture.
There is probably no other country where: The majority religion, however enlightened, mystical or spiritual, is ridiculed, while minority religions, however fundamentalist or even militant, are doted upon. The majority religion and its institutions are taxed and regulated while minority religions receive tax benefits and have no regulation or even monitoring. While the majority religion is carefully monitored and limited as to what it can teach, minority religions can teach what they want, even if anti-national or backward in nature. Books are banned that offend minority religious sentiments but praised if they cast insults on majority beliefs.
There is probably no other country where: Regional, caste and family loyalties are more important than the national interest, even among those who claim to be democratic, socialist or caste reformers. Political parties exist not to promote a national agenda but to sustain one region or group of people in the country at the expense of the whole. Each group wants as big a piece of the national pie as it can get, not realizing that the advantages it gains mean deprivation for other groups. Yet when those who were previously deprived gain power, they too seek the same unequal advantages that causes further inequality and discontent.
The killing of one Christian missionary: Becomes a national media event of anti-Christian attacks while the murder of hundreds of Hindus is taken casually as without any real importance, as if only the deaths of white-skinned people mattered, not the slaughter of the natives. Missionary aggression is extolled as social upliftment, while Hindu efforts at self-defense against the conversion onslaught are portrayed as rabid fundamentalism. One Indian journalist even lamented that western armies would not come to India to chastise the political groups he was opposed to, as if he was still looking for the colonial powers to save him!
The irony: Is that rather than embracing its own great traditions, the modern Indian psyche prefers to slavishly imitate worn out trends in western intellectual thought like Marxism or even to right apologetics for Christian and Islamic missionary aggression. Though living in India, in proximity to temples, yogis and great festivals, most modern Indian intellectuals are oblivious to the soul of the land. They might as well be living in England or China for all they know of their own country.
It’s hard to have serious discussions with certain folks but Eng is simply an Indian language at this point. Yes it grew out of a colonial history in India but nonetheless it’s now a permanent part of India. Some dictionaries like Chambers even mention Indian English as a separate variety. In Latin America Spanish is the overwhelmingly dominant language everywhere (barring Brazil.. though the same principle holds here). This again happened because of a history of colonization. It was even worse here because so much of the native population was exterminated (either willingly or by way of infectious disease.. they had no immunity against many viruses that the Europeans brought with them). But still Spanish is in a pragmatic sense even the only language in this region in many cases. And so much of history is about dramatic changes happening because of such events. One can have a view about all of this (and certainly the history of colonialism is a terribly sordid and brutal one) without foolishly arguing against Eng or what have you. No serious critic of thinker of colonialism offers such absurd prescriptions. Of course in the case of India ‘Hindutva’ is a colonial/European phenomenon through and through. It precisely has nothing to do with all the strands of Hindu thought, practice and belief that preceded it (not that those were a unity either.. the word ‘Hinduism’ is itself a British invention!). And so once again you see these ignorant arguments being rehashed all the time. British history is part of Indian history, there’s nothing to be done about it! And it is impossible to imagine contemporary India without that intervention. From the Constitution to all the institutions of the state the British intervention is obvious everywhere.
This doesn’t mean one has to endorse everything. We don’t have to endorse the extermination of American ‘Indians’ and yet here we are (some of us at least!) in the US living with English and with the ‘remains’ of an exterminated population. We (some of us) living in England, the ‘mother’ country once upon a time. So on and so forth. one has to be mature about this stuff. Ideology founded on such ignorance is precisely the most dangerous thing. There is so much violence to be found everywhere in history in the name of everything under the sun that it’s really hard to keep track, impossible to account for everything. Similarly for me violence doesn’t just become so outside the borders of a nation-state or what have you. So yes there is a history of colonialism in India which was often brutal, there is equally a history of Muslim rule that was often brutal too, there is an even older history of ‘Hindu’ rule which is as brutal, one could go down the list. The original Indians, the ‘adivasis’ (those who refer to ‘Hindus’ as ‘outsiders’ in their languages even if conveniently this sixth of the Indian population is always ignored, always the most brutalized).. or ‘later’ perhaps the Dravidians who consider themselves prior to a ‘Hindu’ Northern invasion.. it goes on. But nothing is as violent in Indian history, as the history of caste domination and all its institutions. It is one of the most astonishingly dark episodes of world history, certainly so for the longevity it’s had.
But those who are not serious, those who are ideological automatons, or those who believe in kindergarten views of history, such folks are happy with fairy-tales and in the age of online media they can permanently inhabit their bubbles. There are many such folks everywhere in all religions or adherents to all kinds of politics and so forth. There are of course many things that can be seriously debated. For instance there was a discussion about censorship earlier and I completely agree that it was wrong to place the customs ban on the Satanic verses or pander to minorities shamelessly on many of these issues. Here the other side certainly has a point. But these discussions can only come about in an atmosphere of sincerity and good faith. When people come up with the most toxic stuff, that is either stupidly, insanely ignorant and/or terrifying in terms of its ideological consequences, and then when they complain about ‘fairness’ it’s a bit hard to take them seriously. If you say the most atrocious stuff and believe in some pretty disturbing things and then say this is all only so that the balance of the universe might be set right and if this did happen they’d all become nice constitutional democrats (!) one can only laugh.
I’ve said this many times before but ultimately these are questions of responsibility. When one constantly blames the other side and refuses to look in the mirror (whoever does it) this is a way of always evading responsibility. One is always this innocent victim of history who has never done anything. In every nation of the word there are those who believe this stuff. It animates the politics of so many nations. Much like the belief of being the greatest civilization, the best possible one with the best values and what not. Of course everyone cannot be right at the same time but these are logical questions too complex and complicated for some. Getting back to the subject at hand the idea that one can be a hyper-nationalist with respect to India without bothering to live in India is evidently an irony lost on many. This doesn’t of course mean that one has to always live in one’s country to call oneself a nationalist. Absolutely not. But there are certain brands of jingoism and chauvinism that beg the question. Again one always keeps good company in these matters. There are others like one from other parts of the world doing the very same!
satyam: in secular u.s can you have non christian president
people in u.s and u.k are safeguarding there local interest you have namoonas…
mandrin speaking chinese is classic example of whats its all about the other comparable to indian civilisation
btw what she is doing in u.s ask yourself when reservation lead to mass migration…read betwwen lines even in u.s the second most educated migrant community after jews are hindus
I’ll just respond to the last statement here.. it would be rather odd to have a phobia about Sanskrit given that I am not completely unschooled in this language. Which is probably more than can be said for you or the other foaming-Sanskrit-at-the-mouth types here.
As far as I’m concerned one of the richest traditions in human history whether one calls it the ‘Indian/Indic’ or the ‘Sanskritic’ or the ‘Hindu’ (all these labels of course don’t mean the same thing) has to be saved from dangerous people like yourself. There are again many like you everywhere destroying everything that is of value in a tradition. It’s unfortunate but a fact of life. But resistance to this madness is nonetheless necessary.
In any case this is not a debate. And I think enough has been said on this topic. Let’s get back to movies. Sometimes i miss the good old days when everyone just attacked Abhishek!
on to brutal hindu rules again guys talking nonse..maurya dynasty in 265 bce was the first time we had an united india….where does that theory goes out of window
If you define Hinduism as a religion as it is generally perceived, then no. It is not at all a binding factor.
If you define it as the Indian way of living, its culture, its languages, the ethos of its people, (some people do define it this way), then yes, it is the only binding factor.
(There is nothing special in that last line. It is just like saying, being Indian is the only binding factor. The word Hindu derives itself from the Avestan version for the River Indus or Sindhu, and as broader term for the people living in the vicinity as viewed by the Avestans. The land of these Hindus was called Hinduš. This got Latinized to the modern name India and Arabized to the name Hindustan.)
So by this definition, it is obviously the binding factor.
What I mean by this is that every single person living in India is Indian, belonging to India.
(Now, as per the above word etymology, replace the word India by Hindu. Simple as that. If you want to change the word Indian by UUTYURLN then I would have to change my answer to saying : UUTYURLN-ism is the only binding factor for United India.)
Update:
According to a 1995 Supreme Court of India judgement the word Hindutva could be used to mean “the way of life of the Indian people and the Indian culture or ethos”.
Read more here, it goes to describe in much detail
Welcome to newsanalysisindia.com SUPREME COURT ON HINDU HINDUTVA AND HINDUISM
The closest competitors of India in terms of multiculturalism, are western democracies like France, USA, etc, however there are major limitations imposed upon their citizens that curtail democracy.
For example: the celebrated American culture itself proclaims to be only a “Melting Pot civilization”. A deeper study would reveal that cultures and values of people who created the U.S.melted to form a single American identity. Life would thus be difficult for people in the U.S. who do not understand English, are not catholic or people who do not comply to essentially American ethos. No wonder Americans whose ancestry does not confirm to local prejudices prefer to severe links with their past. Germans, Arabs are typical examples of this phenomenon.
Similarly France known for jealously preserving its republican values does not standby anything that’s not celebrated in the typical French culture.The regional languages of France are sometimes called patois, but this term (roughly meaning “dialect”) is often considered derogatory. Patois is used to refer to supposedly purely oral languages,[citation needed] but this does not, for instance, take into account that Occitan was already being written at a time when French was not and its literature has continued to thrive, with a Nobel Prize for Frédéric Mistral in 1904.
At the time of the French revolution in 1789 it is estimated that only half of the population of France spoke French, and by 1871 only a quarter spoke French
Inspite of glaring problems in law enforcement and flourishing communalism in almost all parts of India;The kind of respect and recognition guaranteed to ethnic and religious minorities in the constitution of India may not draw many parellels even in the first world.
The Saviors
The Idea India couldn’t have survived this long without the presence of below mentioned factors:
The composite culture of India build over thousands of years deserves maximum credit . Majority of people in India(read Hindus) truly believe in the truth of all major religions in the world! Communalism though rampart now, is only a recent phenomenon in historical standards
The legacy of struggle for Indian Independence against the British,still inspires patriotism in Indians
The ingenuity of the framers of Indian constitution; that has ensured survival of democracy,inspite of all attempt to alter the basic structure of constitution over the years (42nd amendment,34th amendment etc.)
The efficiency of Indian Civil Service; sometimes considered the steel frame of Indian Union
The integrity and devotion of the Indian armed forces;who never attempted to topple the government; inspite of wide-spread public outrage at times, against the government and democratic process at large
Hostile neighborhood. the idea of being a small and militarily weak nation may not be all that appealing, if you have neighbors like Pakistan and China ready to gobble prospective regional states at the drop of a hat
And finally the quiet essential Indian traits and aspirations also have a huge role to play. Love for Cricket and Bollywood,celebration of festivals,appreciation of education, etc have helped the people of our great country and has made them stake holders in the idea of India.
You want English language, work in america, wear pants, use all their inventions, Then what are you doing visiiting an English Blog?
Why dont you go to hindi blogs and spread your knowledge there? Or start a sanskrit blog?
*** Aah there he goes..that ‘erudite’, ‘elegant’, ‘Oxford-banged’ upholder of minority rights and secularism..
These are the arseholes who carry the bamboo of ‘secularism’ up their asses***
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New Delhi: Senior Congress leader Mani Shankar Aiyar on Thursday evening justified Paris terror attacks and said that the attack was imminent. Referring to the French government ban on Muslim wearing Hijab, the Congress leader said that this is just an response.
“I think that the way which war has been conducted by Americans, we knew since then there will be such a reaction, France now should think about how to stop such attack, ” the leader added.
Scattered gunfire and explosions shook France on Thursday as its frightened yet defiant citizens held a day of mourning for 12 people slain at a Paris newspaper. French police hunted down the two heavily-armed brothers suspected in the massacre to make sure they do not strike again.
its a pattern with you that when you are unable to defend yourself you resort to such that again to educate you that mandrin was there much earlier even before yours
Rockstar – I think you post links and content. Content are sometimes too overwhelming to go through for people who are interested in films only.
If there is a link and people who want to read your position will click on the link otherwise they will just leave it.
I use link to tell my position with some of my thoughts. If I post 5 different links consecutively, no one would read even your debater.
Satyam – I think instead of deleting, you may club the links together. Of course content could be deleted.
yes I could do that but Rockstar tends to be rather prolific sometimes.. he goes on a spree and keeps putting them up..! often then there are no links provided. but your idea is otherwise a fair one..
Looks like BOI has forgotten that superlative book that was on speed dial during HNY. Or they are just “lost” for words. Of course funnily enough, Happy New Year’s total 3rd week collections up to Tuesday were less than PK’s 3rd week Friday business. But the commentary would not let you know.
Just changing the subject – to box office. LOL.
Happy New Year Heads For Fifth Highest Third Week Of 2014
Wednesday 11 November 2014 11.30 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
Happy New Year grossed around 75 lakhs nett on its fifth day of the third week with collections of 6.25-6.50 crore nett so far in week three. The overall total is around 174.75 crore nett.
The approx collections for the first five days of the third weekend are as follows
The third week will gross around 7.75 crore nett which is a reasonable third week figure and will be the fifth best third week collection of the year after Queen, Holiday – A Soldier Is Never Off Duty, 2 States and Kick.
Meanwhile for PK
PK At 35 Crore Nett For Third Week
Wednesday 07 January 2015 10.30 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
PK has grossed 3.75 crore nett om its third Tuesday to take its lifetime total to 312 crore nett plus. The third week collections is as follows.
The third week will see the film doing its best business in Delhi/UP grossing around 10 crore nett which is less than 50% fall from last week. Mumbai circuit will see a 65% drop.
yeah absolutely. They go ‘orgasmic’ over every other film. Here it’s a ‘yeah it did 300’ tone! And not just them. The others are the same. Nahata said something about the 26 crore opening day being good for the subject, then disappeared for the longest time. finally showed up one day to say Aamir had started the 100, 200 and now 300 club and that those who disagreed with him when he said PK would be a blockbusters were ‘rats’ hiding from him (not making this up). They’ve all said a whole lot more with a lot of other 100-200 grossers.
BOI is feeling like they have been made to eat their own S#iT. Hence they are taking it like this. I dont understand why their sudden agenda of not acknowledging Aamir’s achievement and coming up with stupidity like real collections.
Rockstar, I let two of your comments through even after I said we should move on to other stuff but I’ve deleted all the other responses. Because I said it a second time too. You always tend to get carried away. 20 articles don’t have to be posted making more or less the same point. Specially when it’s not about films.
340-350 crore is an amazing total. It has been hugely accepted and it seems clear how far a fine, well-accepted film can do at the BO. Which also proves how less HNY, Kick etc did in comparison and how their success was bloated in the media whereas the fact is that almost all big budget films have never trended the way they should have.
Still I would say the impact of PK is less than the euphoria 3 idiots created in its time. That had a lot of repeat audience and the greatest mass hit since Gadar. Its success cannot be emulated easily, not even by PK
“Still I would say the impact of PK is less than the euphoria 3 idiots created in its time”
yhea because even though a hit, the numbers are bit fudged, seems like. Itna great movie bhi nahi hai yeh. I am mean not that much entertaining, latter half was actually very boring and drag to be honest. I saw it when it came out and I cannot remember 90% of it already! Where as his other movies stayed with me for some time at least.
Well if craps like HNY and Kick can make 200 plus and Aamir can have 250 plus with a crap like D3 a good movie with Aamir like PK can make 350 and a great movie like 3I would have done 400 plus today.
That way I wouldn’t know if Sholay ran for 5 years, if DDLJs/HAHKs success is real or many of the movies that have claimed to break the records ever broke them and was it all not fudged.I will believe what producers and trade tell on their sites.And there are so many of these nowdays that if one gets it wrong its easy to spot. Anyways in our country anyone can get questioned.
I will question only if there is logical reason like in Krrish 3 case where producer nos. and trade nos. are far off. I will question if a site claims some nos. and conviniently changes them months or years later. I won’t just blindly question anything. I know all stars especially Khans have no. of haters.Not goi g to believe if anything anyone claims out of the blue.
And if someone explains me with some logical explaination on how are the nos. getting fudged for all movies and how they are getting away with it and no one is reporting it I will put my attention to it. I may chose to believe it or not believe it depending on if I get convinced but I won’t mind listening to it. I am not going to just believe if x, y or z just says so.
You have an utter stale argument which goes like this – “PK is vastly superior film than OMG (a film that I otherwise enjoyed) in every way..”
Throughout various discussions- I have provided examples, quotes from movies and their relative comparisons in their substance and how impacting they were. You on the other hand are just like that stuck up Rajiv Masand who before even watching PK had made up his mind that it’d be beyond comparing to a small “Disney” movie like OMG..Why ? because it has been by Lord Hirani and it stars Lord aamir himself..
This is utter snobbery and nothing else…in your own review of PK..you kept harping about Hirani…and his comparison with Hrishikesh Mukherjee,, how Aamir has done wonders to the character- never really stressing on the crux of the movie itself.
As I said before..this is nothing new but snobbery of highest order which is as good as saying, since I am paying 200 bucks for a dinner it HAS to be better than food served in a local deli ..why? Because the 200 dollars dinner has been prepared by some Masterchef winner and the local deli is some uncle John.
“Kabhi kisi se unka bhagwaan mat chheen na, warna woh tumhe hi apna bhagwaan bana lenge” – OMG
Sorry to butt in, but Satyam’s stale response is to a stale argument put forth by you that OMG is classic and hence superior. Call it snobbery or respect, a Hirani and an aamir elicit that response because of their past work and record.
I have nothing against Aamir or Hirani. I too enjoyed their work including PK., but unlike others I take each film on its merit rather than worshiping some sort of legacy (and be another congress supporter of Dynasty). If Hirani made a film that I’d have liked more than OMG (on the same topic), then I’d have gladly accepted it.
Aamir had a Talaash couple of years ago and the reaction to it was pretty mixed, while I still think that It was his best performance in a while by a distance. I can’t really decide Hirani’s best because Hirani has essentially made just two films until now and released the first story in 3 flavors (MBBS, LRMB, 3 Idiots) with the same exact ingredients , same bas bhi kar rulaega kya moments and same background of someone doing aaaaa in some emotional scenes with at least one wiping their happy tears.
Having said that I still think he has made extremely entertaining films. PK is the first time he did something different since his debut (although he did throw in his regular sahnis and happy tears but still the rest of it substantially different).. He is a very enjoyable filmmaker but he has extremely few things to say.
I think my piece on PK speaks for itself.. doubt anyone would agree with your characterizations but whatever!
On OMG I’ve seen all your examples. the problem is that you define these as profundity and I don’t. I revisited the film recently as well. There is nothing here beyond the obvious and that obvious isn’t particularly profound. I don’t have an issue with you liking OMG a lot or not liking PK much. That’s not what I’m arguing about. I just don’t see what there is in OMG that could be overrated so much.
First- there’s nothing such as overrated in OMG. The examples I gave are about the central theme in both movies and it clearly depicts why one is superior than other. Your piece is a fine one by it has more to do with Hirani and Aamir than the movie itself. You talk about hirani’s repertoire and Aamir’s skills rather than the movie itself… The latter half of your essay was more or less influenced by the current debate on PK in India rather than analysis of the movie elements itself.
Are bhai Paapas, OMG did not have Abhishek…so Satyam will not appreciate. You should have pitched in Guru or Bunty aur Bubbly and then had seen the response.
Ohh yes…if you had been Jayshah then also he would have agreed with following reply – “Your assessment is so purrrfect that there is nothing more one could add”
#BhakSaala
Re: “No one cares what happens in poor country like nigeria? It is daily news from nigeria….100 or 200 mass killing…i can post daily fresh mss killing news from nigeria by Islamists.”
This sort of debate — “why aren’t we talking about XYZ, and this shows a double standard” — could go on endlessly: Central African Republic, anyone? Myanmar?
Sad to see Lingaa’s fate but good for Rajni. Flops like this make the fans protect their star and i firmly believe that Lingaa has made more Rajni fans than Robot. Fans are always created on “Flop after successive hits and not by another Hit after successive hits”
SATYAMSHOT
January 2, 2015 at 6:38 AM
PK Holds All Time Records In Seven Circuits
Friday 02 January 2015 12.00 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
PK has become the highest grosser in the following circuits after two weeks.
Mumbai
Delhi / UP
East Punjab
CP Berar
CI
Mysore
West Bengal
The circuits where record figures are still to be reached are Rajasthan, Nizam /Andhra, Tamil Nadu / Kerala, Bihar, Assam and Orissa. Rajasthan is not a record due to changes in entertainment tax but will set new record in the next week. Nizam /Andhra is on verge of record while Assam and Orissa should also reach in time. Bihar and Tamil Nadu / Kerala are likely to miss out.
The film has set new benchmark in CI as it has become first film to cross 10 crore nett. Other benchmarks that are likely to be achieved is 100 crore nett in Mumbai, 60 crore nett in Delhi/UP, 30 crore nett in East Punjab, 15 crore nett in CP Berar, 20 crore nett in Mysore and 15 crore nett in West Bengal. These will all be firsts.
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January 2, 2015 at 6:39 AM
New Releases Dull PK Remains Strong
Friday 02 January 2015 14.00 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
The two new releases Mumbai Can Dance Saalaa and Take It Easy opened to very dull collections of 0-5%. It continues the tradition of the first releases of the year being duds. You have to go back to the 80’s when any of the first releases of the year did well.
PK has continued its strong run into the third week and looking at the collections in the morning show of the third Friday it seems that the film will set a new record for third week collections and hit the 300 crore nett mark on Monday with an outside chance of getting there on by the end of business on Sunday.
Ugly released last week managed to hold steady on the weekdays as the four weekday business was similar to the weekend but with collections of just 3 crore nett apprx in week one its still a huge flop.
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January 2, 2015 at 6:39 AM
PK Grosses 276 Crore Nett In Two Weeks
Friday 02 January 2015 12.00 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
PK grossed a record 94.50 crore nett in week two taking its two week business to 276 crore nett. The second week business was around 30 crore nett higher that the previous record holder Dhoom 2. The film fell a little short of 100 crore nett in week two which would have been the sort of club that very few films will join. The film is looking to cross 300 crore nett before the end of the third week.
The second week collections were the highest ever in all circuits of India. The drop in week two was 48% with Delhi/UP and East Punjab showing an even better hold as collections dropped a little over 40%.The collections in Mumbai have crossed 90 crore nett.
The records will be more difficult to come by now. It can get a new third week record which stands at a little over 30 crore nett but it will difficult to beat this record by the margin it achieved the second week record. .
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January 2, 2015 at 6:40 AM
“The records will be more difficult to come by now.”
yeah it’s all uphill after 300!
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January 2, 2015 at 7:24 AM
for next 10 yrs – no one (not even aamir maybe) will be able to break this – unless the min. ticket price becomes 500/- 🙂
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January 2, 2015 at 8:08 AM
the same thing was said after 3I. You never know what can happen in 3 years (much less 10 !). Opening week can def. be broken and if a movie can open to 200 CR then they might squeeze by 320 or whatever final number for PK but yeah, don’t see any movie really beating PKs number unless Aamir teams up with Hirani again (which wouldn’t be anytime soon since HIrani has Sanjay bio and the next Munnabhai on his plate).
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January 2, 2015 at 8:56 AM
Aamir certainly could.. he has the script sense to be able to do it. It could either be the Ghajini model where a roaring initial (beginning on day 1) and then good trending does it or else the Hirani thing (though Hirani is alone in this respect). But in any case when a guy does it with Ghajini, 3I, PK (even if one doesn’t want to include D3 on trending ground) and then not to forget all the equally impressive trending patterns on films ranging from RDB to TZP (the total gross isn’t everything.. it’s about the maximum that can be done relative to a genre.. of course something like RDB in today’s money would be enormous, I’ve always insisted on this and even today I think that extraordinary as these huge grosses are one shouldn’t lose site of those older achievements) he’s much more likely to do so again. by the same token his peers haven’t come close to this overall achievement EVEN when they have had the biggest starts. And so there’s no real debate here.
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January 2, 2015 at 9:39 AM
Agreed, to not recognize Aamir’s achievements starting from Lagaan is no less than criminal.
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January 2, 2015 at 9:48 AM
I think Salman -Barjatya movie has a real chance of suprassing PK collections.
Barjatya is one of the rare directors whose vision resonates with the want of the audience.
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January 2, 2015 at 10:11 AM
actually other than on HAHK (and to an extent MPK where it did very well given that it had no stars and which in today’s money would be a high amount) Barjatya has never had that sort of stratospheric grosser. HSSH came down after a good initial, Vivaah had great trending in the smaller markets, had a good gross but not a massive one, MPKDH also tanked after a good initial. With Salman (who also has a very different image now) he’d get the initial but then he’d need enough sustaining power in a genre that isn’t otherwise on the right side of the multiplex audience. Why? Because Barjatya is simply too cheesy for this. He could make it up with a certain family audience that watches soaps regularly on TV but whether that audience too will accept that level of cheese in a movie remains to be seen. One has to think that this genre could not open in a massive way on day 1 so again this would be more about trending. Again all of this doesn’t mean this cannot happen. Certainly you’d have a star and a director who’d have to be taken seriously but it’s nowhere close to the ‘done’ deal some here have been presenting it as. for that you need a director who has much better credentials in the recent past and also a star who too has the same in that sort of genre.
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January 2, 2015 at 10:17 AM
Aren’t you missing a little something called :Hum aapke hain Koun?
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January 2, 2015 at 10:54 AM
sorry meant to say HAHK in that first line. Made that correction. But yeah that’s precisely my point. HAHK was 20 years ago and nothing since by him remotely approaches those benchmarks (including with HSSH at a time when Salman was going through a good phase.. not like today but then HSSH was one of the biggest releases of its time.. the first Barjatya post-HAHK). And now you add to that fact that Salman is one of the hottest stars around in a completely different genre. A big one is certainly possible here but it cannot be taken at face value. We don’t expect huge hits from directors who’ve done this two decades ago unless there’s also strong evidence in the recent past. Again I’m making a clear distinction here. This combo would have to be taken seriously but because in many ways it would be on the wrong side of the multiplex audiences it would have to be that much better as a film to really show some very strong trending. All of this simply cannot be assumed. It’s like saying Aditya Chopra made DDLJ 20 years ago. But neither Mohabbatein nor RNBDJ lived up to the box office tale of that film which was itself very far from HAHK as a grosser. And Aditya Chopra still isn’t on the wrong side of his audiences in some of those more basic ways. Weren’t people in fact saying some of these things when Aditya Chopra and SRK got together after so long? The film didn’t even match Ghajini in any sense.
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January 2, 2015 at 10:26 AM
aamir is 50 now and I guess PK wud remain his top-most grossing film – Sarfarosh2 might have an outside chance of touching 250Cr – but otherwise – he will have many 150-200 cr stuff still but on this scale – I doubt…..
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January 2, 2015 at 11:19 AM
Barjatya-Salman combo CAN deliver a massive or even a super massive hit. There is one caveat. Sooraj Barjatya can stay true to his genre but has to cater to today’s audience’s sensibilities. The audience has moved on- past the talking pets and Raam Laxman music. Barjatya couldn’t do it with MPKDH and to an extent with HSSH. Also Salman fans today are a different group than HAHK days.
So, yes- it’s a possibility and an interesting possibility . But,Barjatya HAS to reinvent himself. Salman can get his fans to the theatre but the film has to be such that they would come back again and again and also interest non-Salman fans.
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January 2, 2015 at 1:12 PM
You have said much more concisely and clearly what I was trying to..
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January 2, 2015 at 4:05 PM
Bharjatya is totally dated, so late 80s-early 90s. Adi-KJo usurped his space with the NRI Romances of the late 90s early 2000s. Further on, the Romance genre was given a quite burial with the advent of South Masala, New age multiplexism and Hirani-Aamir socially relevant offerings. I get a sense that Sallu gave a nod to Sooraj as a favor, something he has done with this brothers/brother-in-law etc. Unless Sooraj has something totally out of the box, the movie would have to rely hugely on the Sallu persona. There is a finite limit to how much that persona can deliver.
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January 2, 2015 at 11:19 AM
This will be the most undeserving 300 grosser. Good release time and media hyped controversy has added 50 cr
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January 2, 2015 at 11:23 AM
FLOP
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January 2, 2015 at 11:24 AM
That’s a disingenuous observation and I am sure you are not really dumb enough to believe that. Regardless of its merits and view about the movie, it should be apparent even to a dunce that movie has been liked a lot by the audience .
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January 2, 2015 at 11:03 PM
Remember I am not saying PK to be under serving 200cr. It should have made it but controversy and release time has made it to surge past 300cr.
I think I have merit in this statement.
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January 2, 2015 at 1:11 PM
yes I’m sure an Akshay Kumar fan knows all about undeserving grossers..
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January 2, 2015 at 10:57 PM
aren’t you an Aamir fans closely followed by being an Abhishek’s?
So how do u know?
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January 2, 2015 at 1:26 PM
fully agree Naveen – akki would have been better PK and in that case even if the movie mad 50 rs. at the box – office – it would have been a mega block buster 🙂
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January 2, 2015 at 11:01 PM
Don’t think an actor could have changed the numbers. Hirani could weave magic with anyone but yes this time PK was good unlike the great films he had made in the past.
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January 2, 2015 at 1:46 PM
This will be the most undeserving 300 grosser
that is the under-statement of the year or even of last decade.
naveen,
correct me if i am wrong but it was your comment during the release of PK that the film is a ” flop “…nobody here laughs but it has come for you to eat “humble pie” i have put it an oven for warm up…
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January 2, 2015 at 10:59 PM
The movie PK was good when I saw it.
I had said it to be flop before watching PK as has been the norm in this forum. People like Jayshah Idea Satyam etc do this for every other star’s movie. I did the same as I thought they would like it.
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January 2, 2015 at 11:40 AM
Lol…Undeserving 300 crore…dont feed the troll.
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January 2, 2015 at 11:42 AM
This is the PK season in films and I thought as good as a time as any to mention how I think that Raju Hirani is as close to a genius as you can get in mainstream Indian cinema in any language. His insights into human behaviour , his keen sense of observation, his unique, quirky and original sense of humour and his innate goodness of heart and love for humanity marks him out as a once-in-a -century kind of artiste. It is a combination of these qualities that makes him connect with audiences in small towns as well as urban metros, to 8 year old kids as sixty-year old elder men and women. It is the universality, honesty and humanity of hsi vision that touches you. So when someone tries to find faults with any of his scenes I know it si some shortcomings in us , in not being able to perceive his vision. I think, I am fortunate to have got a sense of where he is coming from in most of his apparently absurd or less-than-perfect scenes.
Take the vacuum cleaner delivery scene in 3 Idiots. Many have called it stupid and cheesy. Exactly the opposite I say.
I have always considered that to be one of the many masterstrokes that Hirani and Abhijat Joshi added to the original rich material of Chetan Bhagat. For nothing is Abhijat Joshi the highest paid writer in Bollywood and Hirani is the acknowledged master of Indian commercial cinema. Because their imaginative leaps are grounded in reality and are used to achieve subtle artistic goals.
To start with the child birth facilitated by a vacuum device is perfectly scientific. Let me quote :
“Ventouse is a vacuum device used to assist the delivery of a baby when the second stage of labour has not progressed adequately. It is an alternative to a forceps delivery and caesarean section. It cannot be used when the baby is in the breech position or for premature births. This technique is also called vacuum-assisted vaginal delivery or vacuum extraction (VE).”
“The woman is placed in the lithotomy position and assists throughout the process by pushing. A suction cup is placed onto the head of the baby and the suction draws the skin from the scalp into the cup. Correct placement of the cup directly over the flexion point, about 3 cm anterior from the occipital (posterior) fontanelle, is critical to the success of a VE.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ventouse
“Your practitioner applies a flexible, rounded cup to your baby’s head in the birth canal. The cup is connected to an electric suction pump or a small handheld pump that creates vacuum pressure to hold the cup securely to the baby’s head. You’ll be asked to push while the doctor gently pulls on a handle attached to the cup, to help move your baby down and out of the birth canal.”
http://www.babycenter.com/0_assisted-vaginal-delivery_1451360.bc
Now let us examine the beauty of this script device. Rancho has always been espousing the need for innovation, the need to learn how to use knowledge practically. The director had to demonstrate at some point Rancho a walking the talk, showing his knack for innovation, his ability to use knowledge of science and technology in everyday situations. We have had a glimpse of it when he made the seniors piss on a live electric wire with hilarious effect. This had to be one notch higher. Something the audience won’t expect. I have asked my friends from IIT if they had to think a situation to demonstrate how to use tech funda in a everyday situation, to be used in the film, what would they come up with. Needless to add, no one could think of this.
But it was not just the unexpectedness of it. We have seen Ranch in his male binding avatar with his two friends, Farhan and Raju. Here was a chance to reveal the feminine side of him.
To show how he could empathize with women, be involved with an essentially women’s problem, and come out a winner. It was a unique way of letting him go up in Pia’s esteem and create another kind of bonding between them. And also equally importantly, it was a way of winning the gratitude of Virus and winning him over forever., both by saving his daughter and demonstrating his grasp of technology.
All these are subtle strands of script writing that t only the masters grasp and can execute.
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January 2, 2015 at 6:40 PM
That 3 Idiot delivery scene was perfectly okay. People who question, haven’t been in a delivery room or taken a Lamaze class with their spouse.
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January 2, 2015 at 8:53 PM
yes that scene was done very well..
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January 2, 2015 at 11:47 AM
Salman – Barhatya can do it. But in my book the odds are less. After HAHK he has revealed his chinks, which are aplenty. It si not easy to retain the same connect with the audience as you did 20 years back, unless you have shown the kind of consistency that a Raj Kapoor or Ray did. But at the end of the day, thsi is the best suite that Salman has in his deck. Baarangi Bhaijan , shuddhi et can e good but at the Kick kind of level, nothing more.
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January 2, 2015 at 11:57 AM
My 2 Cents on undermining Aamir’s boxoffice pull…
1. Aamir manufactures a blockbuster
Well that is Brand Aamir. People end up spending 260 crore on Dhoom3 for 2 things…Dhoom brand and Aamir Khan..else it was riding on Victor Acharya..the director of Tashan. Every project with actors name lends credibility. This is the fact that has gotten him to take over US.
Why US?
A key index to US popularity is the great influx of H1b visa IT professionals, Indian Students..who back in late 90s and 2000s had already grown fond of likes of Lagaan, DCH etc. This market knows what to expect from which actor. This is where the original first gen and 2nd gen desis (ABCDs) have followed suite and are supporting new movies.
No one is stopping other actors to spend time on script and make a worthwhile movie. I cannot expect from Salman to do the same but SRK can definitely do it.
The combination of Aamir and RH has proved the best and definitely it will be an undue pressure now on RH with Ranbeer Kapoor in the lead for the next.
Well going by just numbers…i think he needn’t prove anything to anyone now.
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January 2, 2015 at 12:17 PM
PK has apparently entered 2014 Dutch top 10 films list. It’s there on Twitter.
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January 2, 2015 at 12:25 PM
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January 2, 2015 at 12:26 PM
I am not into predictions normally: But I will stick my neck out on these two:
1. The Hirani-Ranbir Dutt biopic is going to be a blockbuster. Reasons? It is one hell of a life..Hindu father-Muslim mother, mother dies of cancer, so does wife, drug addiction, young daugter, getting entangled with terrorists, arms concealment, prison, two more marriages, playing icoinc character like Munnabhai, prison sojurn…even the writer of the biggest pup fiction could not make it more dramatic. An actor like Ranbir who can be so uber cool from Wake up Sid to Rajneeti to Barfi…under the baton of Hirani can create a symphony of emotions powerful enough to move a stone.
3. Amir and Hirani are not going to do another film anytime soon. Aamir can certainly do smaller and hugely successful films with younger directors. But his next shot out of the park has to be a sci-fi film with Shankar. Reason: Ra-One was a total misfire. But there is one big scifi film in Hindi waiting to be made…and the only one who can make it is Shankar. Sharukh missed the chance of his life in letting Robot go..and like many times in the past Shahrukh’s loss is Aamir’s gain. And the only thing that could go against Shankr, his excesses and his gaps in connecting with the northern audiences, can be bridged by Aamir’s script sense and involvement. If he could do that with Gowarikar, Amol Gupte, Rakesh Mehra, Murugudoss, Anusha rizvi and Abhinay Deo .. he can surely do it with Shankar.
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January 2, 2015 at 1:28 PM
“But his next shot out of the park has to be a sci-fi film with Shankar”- where is the official announcement for this film??? if Shankar is directing it – that is another 300 cr film for aamir for sure
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January 2, 2015 at 12:53 PM
PK restores faith in Bollywood audience. When utter garbage movies like Kick and HNY were the highest grossers of the year, you wonder are audience of Hindi cinema brain dead .
The movies were so bad. Kick was a atrocious rehash of Dhoom 2 and Jugnu. HNY was bankrupt man utterly boring version of Oceans 13 which itself was terrible. I have seen some bad movies in the last five years but these two take the cake. if you go purely on entertainment value these two were pathetic Actually even a Bang Bang was more entertaining . PK however is in a totally different stratosphere. It is a pity it did not collect 100 crore in second week due to some fanatics banning an cold wave.
This record will be broken in 2019 by Christmas release by Raju Hirani starring RK and HRO a homage to inception of Google
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January 2, 2015 at 1:37 PM
A very sharp and biting piece on the current controversy revolving around PK-
http://www.tehelka.com/the-protest-against-pk-movie-is-also-terrorism/
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January 2, 2015 at 1:46 PM
Akhlilesh Yadav in PK piracy controversy:
http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/pk-piracy-akhilesh-yadav-downloads-a-controversy-643069?pfrom=home-topstories
LOL, he couldn’t even arrange for a screener?!
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January 2, 2015 at 3:40 PM
Actually all he did was sit that who$e from PK on his lap and everything was transferred from her TOP to his laptop…
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January 2, 2015 at 2:04 PM
girishjohar @ DM FAV RT ? 5 hours ago
Arree Baba, the UP CM, downloaded #PK from licensed & authorised UFO digital facilty, not from a piracy link,hope all controversies rest now
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January 2, 2015 at 5:34 PM
Looks like something that shouldn’t be missed!!!
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January 3, 2015 at 12:14 AM
Aamir and Hirani’s power reigns supreme. Without any shred of doubt Hirani is the most successful director in Hindi cinema today, and one in a very long time.
Also Aamir probably had the biggest role to play in Dhoom 3’s success, other than the general interest in the franchise. There’s no way a crap like that would otherwise not crash after the first weekend. It was all because of the goodwill he had attained with the mass audience in his commercial endeavours Ghajini and 3 idiots.
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January 3, 2015 at 2:01 AM
Not since Manmohan Desai has any Hindi director had this kind of record.
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January 3, 2015 at 7:02 AM
Would be interesting to see what the loons on the right do when Bajirao Mastani releases. The story is one of reverse love jihad! Fireworks will surely ensue but from the other right.
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January 3, 2015 at 7:26 AM
PK Hits 500 Crore Worldwide Heads For 600 Crore
Saturday 03 January 2015 12.00 IST
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PK has touched the 500 crore mark worldwide in two weeks making it the second film after Dhoom 3 to cross 500 crore. The film has grossed 368 crore (Gross) in India and 130 crore in Overseas in two weeks.
The film is looking to be the first film to go over 600 crore mark worldwide. It is already the record grosser in India though overseas it has a long way to go catch the $31.5 million total of Dhoom 2. The film has phenomenaly well in US/Canada and Australia but other markets are not so strong especially Gulf where it may not even be the biggest of the year. United Kingdom, Pakistan and Nepal are below record levels.
Still the film should just about make it above 600 crore worldwide as around $26 million in Overseas will be enough and it should reach that at least.
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January 3, 2015 at 9:39 AM
Its Dhoom 3 not 2. BOI always makes choosy mistakes.
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January 3, 2015 at 7:27 AM
Ugly Flops PK Is An All Time Blockbuster
Saturday 03 January 2015 11.30 IST
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Mumbai Can Dance Saala and Take It Easy opened poorly giving them no chance at the box office. The first mentioned will get better collections due to wider release but they will in lakhs for the week.
Ugly grossed a poor 3.25 crore nett in its first week though collections were steady on weekdays at very low levels. The film had struggles to find distributors for a release and after the results it was probably better it stayed in the cans as the release has turned out a waste of time and money. FLOP
PK has grossed 277 crore nett in two weeks making it the highest grossing film of all time. The film is looking at a lifetime total of over 325 crore nett. ALL TIME BLOCKBUSTER
Action Jackson will finish with business of 57.50 crore nett. FLOP
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January 3, 2015 at 7:28 AM
PK Third Friday Business
Saturday 03 January 2015 12.00 IST
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PK grossed around 6.25 crore nett on its third Friday taking its total to over 283 crore nett. The film should hit the 300 crore nett mark before the end of business on Sunday.
There is a bigger drop in the third week than the second week as the third Friday has dropped around 56% from the previous one while the second Friday had dropped 45%. As the collections are lower there is a chance of higher jumps on weekdays so a 25 crore nett third weekend is a possibility and with that a third week record will be assured.
The lifetime business of the film is looking to finish in the 330-340 crore nett range with a distributor share of 160-165 crore.
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January 3, 2015 at 8:06 AM
“The lifetime business of the film is looking to finish in the 330-340 crore ”
that’s a rough shake after those drops.. I feel BOI’s pain..
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January 3, 2015 at 10:06 AM
Aamir has done some crazy stuff at BO since last few years. And in last 2 years he probaby will end up close to 1200 crores combined gross worldwide in just 2 movies. Plus he will be having top 2 grossers in India and top 3 grossers worldwide (PK will cross 25 million at least). Also if PK manages 640 crores gross worldwide it will be first to 100 million dollars gross world wide. I think first for an Indian movie.
Any other star and their fans along with media would have used loudest of speakers and screamed out loud with slogans of Badshah, God and what not. But this guy is quitely watching the show and taking the treatment of a step brother or son. Well his guts are hated by many. He is making job tougher for others. First he used to take lot of critical acclaim and he was hated for trying to raise the bar with quality, now he has been doing the same with BO and setting the benchmark for others to catch up. When I read these BO articles I feel like they are in utter shock and don’t know what to say.
Anyways I think Aamir knows 400 net in Indian is in his grasp. He needs a good script with universal appeal. PK was good but was flawed and needed an awesome performance from him to sail it through. D3 was utter shit. And look what he has managed. Go Aamir Go!!
Anyways if he manages another RDB kinda movie I will be more pleased.
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January 3, 2015 at 8:08 PM
not RDB but Sarfarosh yes! but chances are very few now that any film will come closer to PK unless aamir pairs up with shankar!
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January 4, 2015 at 1:53 AM
unless the 3 Khans come in a movie together…or hell even two of the three come together…this record presumed record of 320-330cr is going to stay for awhile IMO. Reaching 300cr isn’t cake walk just because PK is making it look like it is.
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January 3, 2015 at 12:04 PM
Top Overseas Grossers http://pbs.twimg.com/media/B6aPNT_CAAArTiX.png
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January 3, 2015 at 3:14 PM
There really is no point in elaborating on them. Yet it would be in order to suggest that Hindus, or those among them who are offended by PK, need not emulate either Muslims or Christians. How else would we as a nation be different from those countries that have banned Exodus as a brazen demonstration of their anti-Semitism – See more at: http://www.mid-day.com/articles/pk-was-a-trap-and-the-naive-stepped-into-it/15884194#sthash.xrWZnpyi.dpuf
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January 3, 2015 at 3:17 PM
All right thinking people – and there is no ideological angle to that – would agree that PK the Alien has dialled the right number in identifying godmen as mere mortal (and mercenary) managers. Nor are the film’s detractors wrong when they say that it mostly targets such charlatans from the Hindu religion. Given that most Indians are Hindu, it is logical that most charlatan godmen would also be so-called Hindus.
http://blogs.economictimes.indiatimes.com/SilkStalkings/pk-row-dont-blame-charlatans-blame-blind-faith/
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January 3, 2015 at 10:39 PM
Not surprised with this known right wing journo piece.Nice attempt on his part to dismiss PK( apparently it would have sunk like Haider), vilify its Muslim leading man, ignore the Hindu creators of the film, throw a swipe at ‘loathsome Leela Samson’ ( all along known to us Southies as a dancer cum former boss of Kalakshetra)…on par. But PK was a hit right from its first weekend, through the first week, on course for a great second weekend– when the protests became big and bad.
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January 3, 2015 at 3:52 PM
Congratulations to the Indian Coast Guards , Take a bow !!
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January 4, 2015 at 4:04 AM
indeed….
btw don’t know any inconsequential movie but some supporters of osama bin laden are having some tough time on border
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January 4, 2015 at 4:08 AM
btw revamp of censor is around the corner ab freebies khatam hone wale hai
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January 4, 2015 at 4:16 AM
yes journalist is trash and its convicted criminal like sanjay dutt (on terror charges)giving messages, like akhilish yadav promoting privacy (even by making movie tax free) etc
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January 4, 2015 at 4:18 AM
http://www.timesofisrael.com/morocco-bans-ridley-scotts-exodus/#ixzz3N6U82YJX
just today
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January 4, 2015 at 8:07 AM
so whats the point? Would you like India to become like this? What’s the next stop? Saudi Arabia?
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January 4, 2015 at 4:32 AM
http://www.sunday-guardian.com/news/concern-over-pk-sharing-stage-with-isi-ally-ary
The Pakistani TV channel, also believed to be linked to terrorist groups, was associated with a promotional event for the film in Dubai.
MADHAV NALAPAT New Delhi | 3rd Jan 2015
Officials regard reports of Pakistan-based ARY (Abdul Rehman Yakub) television channel being associated with a function connected with the promotion of the film PK in Dubai as “unfortunate”, because of that company’s perceived links with terror groups as well as with the state agency in Pakistan, which is the primary sponsor of such groups on the sub-continent, the Inter Services Intelligence (ISI). Its founder A.R. Yakub was an associate of Iqbal Mirchi, who was wanted for the 1993 Mumbai blasts and was placed in the Specially Designated Terrorist list by the UN, the UK and the US despite his linkages with the Pakistan establishment. The channel sought entry into India in 2007 through an attempted partnership with an Indian company, which ran a Punjabi channel as well as a Gujarati channel. Their plan was to set up an “ARY Just for India” channel. However, intelligence inputs from R&AW about some of the promoters of this channel led to permission being refused. However, officials say that entry into the Indian market continues to be a high priority for the channel, and that it is actively searching for partners which would enable this.
Entry into the film industry would be a plus for a Pakistan-based company eager to expand the reach of its patrons into locations in India. However, as yet, no concrete evidence has emerged of a business link between the producers of PK and ARY, barring a function in Dubai reportedly attended by both sides. A BJP leader, Subramanian Swamy, has called for an investigation into the funding of the film, which hopefully will reveal more details than what is presently available. An official claimed that the channel “appears to have used the tax haven route to make investments in India”, principally in Hyderabad and Mumbai.
ARY’s affiliate in the UK, ARY Digital UK, found itself under investigation by authorities in London during 2004-05 on suspicion of being associated with hawala channels. Incidentally, the UK was the favoured domicile of A.R. Yakub, and it was in that country that he passed away last year. He became a billionaire through gold trading in Dubai It is not a secret that huge profits were made in that trade through smuggling of the precious metal into India during the period when there were severe curbs on legal private import of gold into India. Yakub was close to the Bhutto family and is suspected of having been a front for some of the money kept abroad of that super-rich political dynasty. He was also known to Mullah Omar, and is known by intelligence agencies in India of having assisted the Taliban, presumably on the request of the ISI. More ominously, the ARY Group was alleged by agencies in India of having provided funding to ULFA in Assam to enable the group to secure sophisticated weapons through Bangladesh, a country where ARY has extensive contacts, especially within the groups close to former Prime Minister Khaleda Zia, a known backer of Pakistan against India, but who is also a favourite of Washington. An arms consignment designated for ULFA was seized from two vessels at Chittagong port in 2004 after an alert from Delhi, but others are known to have got away. Interestingly, A.R. Yakub was close to Dr Abdul Qadeer Khan, the “father” of the Pakistan nuclear bomb and has been accused by agencies in the US and India of having been a front for the assets of the nuclear scientist, who set up a merchandise depot for sensitive nuclear technology before it was shut down because of US pressure.
ARY Digital and ARY Aurum Plus are some of the other businesses of the group. Its bullion business suffered a setback in 2005 when the London Bullion Market Association cancelled its licence after an investigation into a UAE-based affiliate. The investigation focused on allegations of money laundering, narco trafficking and terror financing, although details have not been released. Intelligence agencies in India warn that the group has extensive ties to the ISI. A senior official claimed that the group has “often facilitated the ISI in its global operations”. A colleague pointed out that Yakub “was (alleged to have been) the intermediary between the Taliban in Afghanistan and tribal groups in Pakistan, theologically and operationally allied to that militia”. Yakub was close to Pervez Musharraf. In 2002, former PM Benazir Bhutto was convicted on corruption charges for making ARY Gold the monopoly importer of the precious metal into Pakistan, from which country a significant chunk gets smuggled into India via the porous coasts of the two countries.
In the UK, group affiliates have been accused of assisting Taliban leaders to convert their cash hoards into gold, thereby converting illegal cash (often the proceeds of narcotics or terror operations) into a commodity freely traded in legal exchanges worldwide. Interestingly, Yakub had visited India in 2008, holding discussions with two Mumbai-based jewellers.
Should Finance Minister Arun Jaitley and Home Minister Rajnath Singh accept Swamy’s suggestion that a probe be launched into the funding of PK, hopefully such an investigation will also zero in on ARY, which has for years been active in India through intermediaries and cutouts, and which has extensive links that are problematic from a security standpoint. What would be interesting to find out is exactly who in the Indian establishment lobbied for ARY media entities to set up shop in India, before such moves were scuttled by adverse intelligence on the group. It needs to be reiterated that thus far, there has been no substantive evidence produced of any formal linkage between the producers of PK and ARY, and that the truth can emerge only after the suggested probe has been completed, if it is begun.
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January 4, 2015 at 5:01 AM
that is a junk article; the ARY full form is incorrect to begin with.
ARY has been sponsoring bunch of events within India and outside.
Check media partners : http://www.iifa.com/partners-sponsors/
Check TV partners : http://conclave.intoday.in/sponsors-2013.html
Refutations:
http://www.huffingtonpost.in/2014/12/30/subramanian-swamy-pk_n_6394642.html
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January 4, 2015 at 8:56 AM
nothing has been refuted but the article at huffington takes content from twitter source of swamy and ya neither its junk otherwise defamation can be
mr satyam in india allready da vinci code was banned and vishwaroopam was held hostage,btw do you even known rajendra kumar was first to made mauna baba way back
known commie saudi angle and reality:
http://archives.peoplesdemocracy.in/2003/1207/12072003_%20taslima%20nasreen.htm
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January 6, 2015 at 10:33 AM
http://topyaps.com/subramanian-swamy-21-things-indians-dont-know-tough-guy
refute these if you can and will help…just a year back i put a tweet by him on this forum where as usual media was fun of him when he said sunanda was murdered with pics to show with reason…btw have you seen today news
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January 6, 2015 at 10:36 AM
http://topyaps.com/subramanian-swamy-21-things-indians-dont-know-tough-guy
refute these if you can and will help…just a year back i put a tweet by him on this forum when as usual media was fun of him when he said sunanda pushkar was murdered with pics to show and reason…btw have you seen today news
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January 3, 2015 at 10:00 PM
Saw PK. Loved it. Will watch it again.
For me PK = Munnabhais. It is more serious than other Hirani films. Im extremely happy that people are watching it and making it a success. 3idiot was over rated.
Its thoroughly entertaining to see the VHP and bajrangdallis getting all worked up over the content of the film because it educates the people against such thugs.
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January 3, 2015 at 10:09 PM
Even liked the more serious second half. Loved the way the film ended. Just as one was getting all teary eyed came the spaceship and Ranbir Kapoor with Amir Khan recounting the four important points to remember on earth. LOL
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January 3, 2015 at 10:42 PM
The last bit, four lines from PK, advice to ths newbie alien visitor, what not to do and do ( hide your remotva locket deep inside you!)– why should people take offence to this benign funny film?
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January 4, 2015 at 2:20 AM
OMG! ( Pun intended )
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January 4, 2015 at 9:31 AM
OG,
Glad you liked it.👍
One quick question.
Did you happen to notice one actor in a rather inconsequential role? Wouldn’t blame you if you didnt.
Kinda easy to miss as it is one of those blink and miss roles. The actor’s name is Aamir or something like that.
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January 4, 2015 at 10:13 AM
LOL
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January 4, 2015 at 12:07 PM
@rajen
LOL.
His character was lovable like munnabhai unlike the three idiot one.
If you belive me now you should believe my earlier views too. They are all genuine and true.
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January 4, 2015 at 2:05 PM
“the film because it educates the people against such thugs.”
You may want to read up on works of Adi Shankara. He too warned people against such thugs. They always existed, will exist and continue to exist in future. As long as people want quick fixes not have no quest or interest in God per se. 🙂
In that I personally don’t think people can be “cheated”. In India even auto rickshaw driver cannot cheat people. People are not so dump!!! lol
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January 4, 2015 at 2:16 PM
I am regularly cheated by some autorikshaw drivers and I dont mind some cheating because they atleast take me to my destination without harming me. The datacard people, the insurance people cheat us with their trickery and we become wiser after being cheated. The list is endless. From the grocery store to the airline bookings, we are regularly cheated so many times that we are surprised when someone is honest.
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January 4, 2015 at 3:27 PM
When they don’t cheat, e.g rickshaw drivers, we don’t bother to tip them either. Same in restaurants. We are worst tippers. So then they no ‘options’ but build in their tips. With godmen, you are NEVER seeking god. All you are seeking is getting rid of your problems. If that is your goal, then they have right to charge appropriate ‘fee’. It is just a business transactions. The bottom line is janta is not bholi-bhali. I know where I need to go to seek real knowledge. And what real knowledge is all about. It it lot of hard work on part of the ‘student’ of religion or seeker of truth. It is a lifelong quest. Sometimes people are desperate. Sometimes they are vulnerable. But it is not always the case.
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January 4, 2015 at 7:50 AM
http://blogs.tribune.com.pk/story/25629/india-is-ready-to-talk-about-religion-is-pakistan/
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January 4, 2015 at 1:33 PM
Thanks Salim for sharing such an enlightening article.
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January 4, 2015 at 3:37 PM
great article! Agree on most points.
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January 4, 2015 at 12:12 PM
Watched it again today and it was full. At satyam in mysore.
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January 4, 2015 at 12:31 PM
KomalNahta @ REPLY ALL DM FAV RT ? 1 hour ago
#PK touches the 300-crore mark. @aamir_khan has distinction of starting 100, 200 & 300-cr club
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January 4, 2015 at 3:40 PM
incredible feat. Good for the film…good for Aamir!
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January 4, 2015 at 2:02 PM
http://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/no-moral-policing-no-communal-violence-please-are-indians-going-the-good-without-god-way/article1-1303180.aspx
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January 4, 2015 at 2:05 PM
http://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/indore/fact-finding-team-of-sadhus-watches-pk-in-indore/article1-1303219.aspx
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January 4, 2015 at 4:12 PM
Salman is such a nitwit!
Pro-Tamil Groups Protest Outside Actor Salman Khan’s House
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January 5, 2015 at 10:12 AM
Yeah! I can’t for the life of me understand why he got mixed up in this (unless it was simply a question of appearance-for-pay, but he doesn’t strike me as that kinda guy).
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January 5, 2015 at 10:24 AM
Jacqueline Fernandes might have something to do with this!
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January 4, 2015 at 4:57 PM
PK At 292 Crore Nett After Sixteen Days
Sunday 04 January 2014 12.00 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
PK has grossed 15 crore nett in two days of its third week and around 292 crore nett in its total run. The two day collection for the third week as follows.
Friday – 6,50,00,000
Saturda – 8,50,00,000
Total – 15,00,00,000
The film will cross 300 crore nett today and should gross a record 26 crore nett in its third weekend.
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January 4, 2015 at 10:38 PM
As per reports 3rd Sunday for PK is 10 crore and the total now is 302 crores.
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January 4, 2015 at 11:53 PM
PK Grosses 305 Crore Nett In Seventeen Days
Monday 05 January 2014 09.30 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
PK has grossed 27.75 crore nett inits third weekend to take its lifetime totao to 305 crore nett. The third weekend collection is as follows.
Friday – 6,50,00,000
Saturday- 8,50,00,000
Sunday – 12,75,00,000
Total – 27,75,00,000
The third weekend is a record and the third week will also set a record with a 40 crore nett plus total. The film may go and touch the 350 crore nett mark..
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January 5, 2015 at 2:32 AM
yes even this weekend the trending has been fantastic. It’s really done exceptionally well and at 350 it will have come very close to doubling it’s week 1 number. So once again this is always possible irrespective of the initial once a film is truly liked. But sure enough we’ll find the same arguments from people saying how more than 200 or 230 or whatever isn’t possible, how films make most of their money initially these days. etc etc etc. Believe it or not the same claims were being made when films were going from 40 crore initials to 65 crore final grosses. And then again at every other point the very same.
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January 5, 2015 at 3:47 AM
yeah I read the same insane theories that if a film opens at near 200cr these days…it is bound to crash the second week because people have already seen it. Um yeah if the film is not liked…they will only watch it once! If a film is truly loved…the above results will happen! And I still don’t think this is “the one”…the capacity is higher in my estimation for “the one”.
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January 5, 2015 at 4:10 AM
I agree this is not the benchmark. PK is a film somewhat below the euphoria 3 Idiots created. If I were to recaliberate it to 2009 numbers it would be a 150 cr film against 3 Idiots 200 cr. Still a genuine big hit. Genuine being the key word.
The great films tend to have a high repeat and recall value. Most if not all the biggies since 3 Idiots fell well short. One does not need box office numbers or trends to prove it (although PK has done just that). But general judgement on the quality aspect of a film is enough.
Unfortunately the Bang Bangs and HNY of this world will always attract a certain media attention and fans will always follow it. The reality is a big film with a huge opening week can follow through and accumulate huge totals in week two and week three. Good films do this. Bad films dont.
I have some sympathy for the naysayers. A bigger and growing market does mean an element of front loading and audience exhaustion. But never to the extent that one makes everrything after week one redundant to a films performance. I even saw it with D3. Vastly underperformed and that was clear from the 2nd week to 3rd week drop. The difference with D3 vs other biggies was it had a huge buzz and must see written all over it. It just elongated the performance over a 2 week period. But PK is a genuine performer. Week 2 drop less than 50% and week three will be just over 50% but closer to 50% than 60%. And the norm for every big grosser since 3 Idiots has been 70% or more.
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January 5, 2015 at 6:41 AM
agreed..
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January 5, 2015 at 8:30 AM
Well now that PK = 2x HNY
SRK shud finally wake up and smell the coffee. If he wants to stay relevant, he really needs to rejigger his future choices. But, perhaps, with that “second richest entertainer of the world” tag, he just does not care anymore. He just meanj bijiness.
As for Sallu, one cannot really expect him to change anything. Whatever he does is linked to his persona.
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January 5, 2015 at 10:21 AM
Re: “Well now that PK = 2x HNY
SRK shud finally wake up and smell the coffee”
Now?! Buddy, this was clear to some of us for years!
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January 5, 2015 at 11:28 AM
Now, as in “finally confirmed” so no SRK fans can claim we were beating drums before the fat lady finished singing.
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January 5, 2015 at 12:43 PM
The fat lady actually sang her final note in Dec 2008. She’s actually skinny now. Unfortunately her bellowing was so loud back then that it deafened some of these fans. So instead of hearing the fat lady singing, they were just listening to their own thoughts for the past 6 years. Some still are. Some have already hibernated. Some are conjuring up the next set of cunning excuses.
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January 5, 2015 at 1:09 PM
LOL, well said!
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January 5, 2015 at 1:06 PM
Here the smackdown of 2x in score is really terrible. The RBNDJ-Ghajini or CE-D3 beat downs were not of this scale, and so it gave SRK some hope to catch up in the future. The SRK-AK story will turn out to be the quintessential hare-tortoise story.
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January 5, 2015 at 1:40 AM
Atlast the 300 crore benchmark is achieved which seemed so difficult even for Dhoom 3.
Inspite of so many obstructions.
Congrats.
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January 5, 2015 at 2:46 AM
As we begin the new year, we delve into a topic that is now increasingly occupying the centre stage of public discourse since the new government took over in New Delhi. Since our schooldays, we have often come across the term “idea of India”, never knowing fully well what it means or what it represents. Does it refer to our civilisational construct or to the broad Nehruvian consensus on which the founding fathers of our Constitution reposed their faith in the ‘Idea of India’ as a nation state? Are some of those basic tenets of the ‘idea’ – pluralism and diversity – under threat or are they being challenged by an idea of singular culture, homogeneity Watch the debate on The Big Fight.
http://www.ndtv.com/video/player/the-big-fight/the-big-fight-is-the-idea-of-india-changing/350943?hp
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January 5, 2015 at 7:01 AM
yes saw this the other day..
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January 5, 2015 at 1:48 PM
HindolSengupta
@HindolSengupta In this show, basically MSA, YY, Harsh Mander, Irfan Habib – all basically agree with one another Vs one Sudhanshu
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January 5, 2015 at 4:15 AM
http://www.boxofficeindia.com/Details/art_detail/finalclassifications2014#.VKpVnSwREqE
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January 5, 2015 at 6:41 AM
http://www.rediff.com/movies/column/pk-wouldnt-have-understood-the-film-pk/20150105.htm
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January 5, 2015 at 11:55 AM
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January 5, 2015 at 1:09 PM
Satyam: “But sure enough we’ll find the same arguments from people saying how more than 200 or 230 or whatever isn’t possible, how films make most of their money initially these days.” I dont see how PK disproves it. Let’s say it makes 350 cr. Out of this 320 cr (92%) would have been made in the first 3 weeks. So it does show that today, even fora tremendously liked film, more than 90% of the money us earned in the first 3 weeks. Trending has to be considered for this or at best 4 weeks period. Which means we have to track figures on a daily basis and draw the graph rather than weeks.
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January 5, 2015 at 1:23 PM
trending could be calculated based on whatever you consider smallest part. It could be days, weekend, week. There is no doubt we have front loading with screen counts. But inspite of that a well liked movie holds well in further weeks.
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January 5, 2015 at 8:17 PM
There is a difference in making most of the money in first week versus three weeks. It is not rocket science. Doubling of first week is a fair yardstick.
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January 5, 2015 at 1:12 PM
aamir has entered a different league now – down below are hazy stars like srk/sallu/akki/aj/hr etc. – the man has created such a place for him that now onwards whatever he does (and I am sure in next 5-7 years – he will have 3 to 4 more diverse movies) – it will take him to the heights and popularity which Big B / DK / RK (Kaka) enjoyed….not that he is not enjoying it at the moment but he has told repeatedly that he wants to be the most loved actor in this country….
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January 5, 2015 at 1:44 PM
Finally saw Haider. I have to admit that I Did not find it as offensive as it was made out to be, aside from the KPs missing entirely. But that was obvious given that the screenplay is by a known separatist.
Tabu and Kay Kay were simple brilliant, Shahid’s performance was IMO overrated.
The film itself had too many plot holes and silliness. Vishal should refrain from comedy as the Salman fans got on my nerves.
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January 5, 2015 at 2:11 PM
Salman fans in general tend to do that for me.
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January 5, 2015 at 2:46 PM
Ha Ha….
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January 5, 2015 at 7:42 PM
😉
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January 5, 2015 at 2:52 PM
What a surprise.. the film turns out to be somewhat different when one actually watches it. Ha!
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January 5, 2015 at 4:48 PM
Have you seen it ??
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January 5, 2015 at 6:10 PM
not yet, missed it in the theater, waiting for a good transfer.
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January 5, 2015 at 6:11 PM
By the way I hope the PDP-BJP possibility hasn’t made you soft on Haider! LOL!
just kidding…
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January 5, 2015 at 9:03 PM
The Official DVD is out now…
I am very Vary of the PDP/ BJP coming together…
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January 6, 2015 at 6:41 AM
didn’t know.. thanks..
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January 5, 2015 at 4:25 PM
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/home/stoi/deep-focus/Protests-are-symptoms-of-a-disease-Vishal-Bhardwaj/articleshow/45747160.cms
“It was my duty to make a film on Kashmir. More than a duty, it was my job to reflect the reality, as I saw it. I didn’t take any sides. That’s the rule of a filmmaker. With Haider, I was an objective observer.”
I had issue with Army narrative part. Whatever has happened to Shahid’s character or current situation is due to Army heavy-handedness. IMO that view was more like disgruntled Kashmiri or Pakistani view and not the complete view.
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January 5, 2015 at 4:47 PM
Munna- IMO The betrayal by his mom and Uncle had a bigger impact on his situation.
More than the Army, The J&K police has been shown in bad light.
But there were too many holes-
1.The Salman fans appear right when Shahid is about be be arrested.
2.Even after knowing that Shahid has gun, the whole Naach-gaaana keeps going on and is allowed by KK.
3.Shaid conveniently escapes twice- once after Naachgaana, and then after killing the Police Commissioner
4. The DCP very conveniently spots the red scarf, Tabu spots the phone number , Shradha spots the gun and on it goes !!
5.The dead body is conveniently to be cremated at the very same Kabristan where Shahid is taking refuge,
Lekin I guess Kashyap and Bhardwaj ko sab maaf hai !!!
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January 5, 2015 at 4:51 PM
Yeah it’s a shame not all films can be as logically airtight as RNBDJ.
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January 5, 2015 at 5:11 PM
here we go again….
Ya it is a shame that films like Raavan, Aiiyaa , Ugly, No Smoking are all air !!!
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January 5, 2015 at 5:13 PM
Last checked poor kashyap was retweeting KoiMoi key articles !!
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January 5, 2015 at 9:49 PM
I don’t know what this means but I’m sure Kashyap is happy someone is paying such vigilant attention to his tweets.
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January 6, 2015 at 11:00 AM
II am sure that Adi Chopra is happy as well , as someone said RNBDJ was Airtight.
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January 6, 2015 at 1:10 PM
ya logically allright:
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January 6, 2015 at 1:16 PM
Rockstar, if you’re going to post such massive pieces put up a selection followed by a link. Otherwise it takes up unnecessary space specially when it’s not linked to any movie discussion as such.
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January 6, 2015 at 1:19 PM
why is not related to haider or just unable to take counter view
http://agniveer.com/a-soldier-reviews-haider/
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January 6, 2015 at 1:25 PM
argue with Rocky on Haider! I haven’t see it yet..
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January 6, 2015 at 1:28 PM
peer’s curfew night on which it was inspired and contradiction:
http://www.sify.com/news/rahul-pandita-basharat-peer-and-kashmir-s-contradictory-stories-news-columns-nezkMIebbbgsi.html
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January 5, 2015 at 3:48 PM
So basically at 305 crores it is almost 60 crores ahead of Kick, and over a 100 crore plus on HNY. The scale with which it has gone over Dhoom3 now is commendable. Only big challange this year seems to be coming from PRDP..music and story has to do the trick for it to last and go past PK.
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January 5, 2015 at 4:09 PM
While it is all good to get swayed in euphoria over PK’s monetary success, one should not forget to add that the increased ticket prices did play a competent role in racing toward the goal faster..
I am not talking about this just to throw a spanner in the works: And I am not blaming VVC/AK/RH alone for this. If the ‘one and only’ Rajnikanth’s producers can indulge in such vulgarity then I guess VVC/AK/RH cannot be witch-hunted. This is a dirty tactic being employed by the biggies and is becoming a norm and I sure as hell am surprised at the spending power of middle-class India. Apart from these ridiculous prices in multi-plexes, a family of 4 also has to shell out exorbitant money for a cup of tea which is not even half of a urine sample that labs collect. [Correct me if I am wrong, but I think the BIGGEST bullies of Hi-fi, YashRaj hadn’t increased their prices for D3 I think, which is ironic].
It is true that one would rather have Hirani making more money than a Farah, but really, this ‘norm’ of jacking up prices is really abominable.
They do jack up prices in the US too, but really only for the 3D and the IMAX ones. Alternately, you do not have a WILD ‘reduce’ its prices just because it is considered a high-art movie!! So a well-liked WILD stands as much as a chance of making expected money as a JOHN WICK or EQUALIZER!!
There is far more consistency in the US than in India on these prices..
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January 5, 2015 at 8:10 PM
PK US total $ 9,896123
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January 5, 2015 at 9:33 PM
I think it is all a demand and supply thing. Hirani and Aamir happen once in 2 years or 3 years. Unlike Yashraj’s who churn out films left right and centre from big budget to small budget movies. And public had a choice to reject which they exercised for a movie like Talaash. And repeat audience tells a different story. One will be cheated once, not twice or thrice.
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January 6, 2015 at 9:40 AM
You cannot justify this vulgarity with a demand and supply thing. If you are SO SURE of your product – content driven et al – what is the need to jack up prices? You are going to get there. Remember, you are not the guys who are NOT into front-loading..
And the irony is, this is RKH — who arguably carries over the mantle of ‘middle-class’ India from Mukherjee!! I am quite positive Mukherjee would have thwacked VVC/HIRANI for this baniyagiri.
And I know the logic people come up with for this – Don’t watch if you feel it pinches your pocket. Of course it is damn easy to say. But in an industry that produces 5 decent films per year out of 500, who wouldn’t be eager to watch it? Irrespective of the price? So the job is done. You have already emotionally black-mailed the viewer. The carrot and stick policy has worked!!
Thankfully, they did not jack up the prices for PK here in US. It was the usual price unlike the horrendous Rajnikanth movie..
As I said before, I am not targeting only these film-makers. But it is worrisome if even the almost-extinct species of quality film-makers and producers resort to such tactics..
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January 6, 2015 at 10:01 AM
It is easy to project gandhigiri. And it is difficult to follow it.
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January 6, 2015 at 4:37 AM
This piece from BOI, which i agree with, will make Satyam, Jayshah, Prasad, Idea, Aamirfan and Utkal da, a bit upset…infact might upset. OK, so they will try to cool it off by saying BOI is biased…blah blah or will not respond.
But the fact is trust can be painful. 🙂
Q. Is Aamir Khan number one beating Shahrukh Khan and Salman Khan now after PK and Dhoom 3
Ans. Salman Khan and Shahrukh Khan are the top two stars and that does not really alter after P.K as their huge popularity is unaffected. The lifetime numbers are more about content than star power. Salman Khan and Shahrukh Khan will generally get the best initials and they also have more volume of releases over last five years be it Aamir Khan or Hrithik Roshan.
K. Kullar
Q. Can you tell me actual PK opening day figure as Happy New Year actual was a lot lower than the estimate given on day one?
Ans. 25.68 crore nett.
B. Padmakar
Q. You have said that Salman Khan is star of the year but Kick was not that good acting by Salman Khan where as Aamir Khan has given award winning performance in P.K. so he should be top star of 2014?
Ans. Its not about award winning performances thats all subjective and about opinions. There will be 100 of award ceremonies and each will give according to their opinion. From a box office point of view Salman Khan did more for Kick than what Aamir Khan did for P.K.
L. Nair
http://www.boxofficeindia.com/Details/art_detail/isaamirkhannumberonebeatingshahrukhkhanandsalmankhannowafterpkanddhoom3#.VKusD9KUfug
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January 6, 2015 at 4:48 AM
Hahahaha! Put him in some mental hospital as he must be suffering from some thing called extreme hallucination.
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January 6, 2015 at 8:55 AM
They are funy people. Their nos. too keep going up and down illogically and can change even after 4-5 years. And this is how you loose crediblity and we have Rentraks coming into our market to handle our BO.
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January 6, 2015 at 5:46 AM
BOI lives in an alternate universe. Fortunately their reporting of BO numbers is relatively honest. Their numbers make a mockery of their biased commentary, and even they cannot help it when Aamir smacks the other 2 Khans in this way every year.
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January 6, 2015 at 6:48 AM
yeah PK has unhinged them.. they never expected this kind of success. Specially with respect to Salman they’ve had a spate of write-ups, each one more ridiculous than the other. But there’s also the absurd logic many have used in the past. If you do a great film, if you work with the best directors etc you’re penalized for this. So in Hollywood terms Leo doesn’t get credit for working with the likes of Scorsese or Nolan or whoever. What matters more is being vin Diesel! Of course Leo often doesn’t have the biggest grossers or anything close to this because of the kind of cinema he usually does. With Aamir it’s not even this. He’s doing Hirani and he’s getting the biggest grossers! There’s no case here either way which is why I suppose ‘madness’ is one kind of response.
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January 6, 2015 at 9:03 AM
Frankly speaking, it’s a most idiotic article ever been posted on BOI.
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January 7, 2015 at 9:31 AM
So the best way to guarantee a monstrous hit is by “doing” Hirani!
Sorry couldn’t resist!
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January 6, 2015 at 8:56 AM
Aamir has been making the other 2 look like pussy cats. Dumbos.
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January 6, 2015 at 3:39 PM
Naveen, i saw the post on BOI and from the objectivity i will agree that Salman was a bigger factor in Kick coz of the new director. However Kick was an EID release. Pre Eid factor and Non Holiday start of PK remains the same. You have to also compare how the 2 movie got promoted;
Kick was all out promotions on KNWK etc. PK was less is more approach. So simply stating that Salman did more for Kick is not supported with any logic.
Aamir plus Rajkumar Hirani is a supreme combination that was Salman and Sooraj Barjatya post HAHK. But one cannot blame Aamir to pick great scripts and movies that break records on records. There’s a reason by Raju Hirani writes a movie and bases his character on Aamir, he sees that justice and boxoffice angle in him.
Same is with him seeing the same in Ranbir Kapoor for the Sanjay Dutt biopic. I am sure it would be entertaining and blockbuster material.
The real test for Salman now is to bring PRDP to a huge level, its a Diwali release for him after a long time. There’s no pre eid BS here. Its Rajshree, Sooraj, Salman..they will promote it like from the makers of HAHK etc and add to that Salman’s brand value.
What has happened in last 7 years is Aamir has got his continued good movies with box office leverage..which wasn’t the case earlier.
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January 6, 2015 at 4:42 AM
Correction-*Truth can be painful*
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January 6, 2015 at 5:05 AM
“There will be 100 of award ceremonies and each will give according to their opinion. From a box office point of view Salman Khan did more for Kick than what Aamir Khan did for P.K.” Awards are as per opinion. And what is this? He has some kind of a measuring instrument to measure how much Salman did for Kick and how much Aamir Khan did for PK.?
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January 6, 2015 at 9:02 AM
They sound like Fan Boys, not professional BO guys. BTW don’t they have Aamir at no.1 star rankings??
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January 6, 2015 at 9:15 AM
this is height of stupidity
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January 6, 2015 at 7:24 AM
What do they mean content? Why cant Shahrukh or Salman match Dhoom 3 after one year? What was so earth-shattering about Dhom 3’s ‘ content’? Why cant Shahrukh with Aditya Chopra as writer and Yash Chopra as director and Katrina and anushka as co-stars notch up even 150crores? And Salman and Shahrukh are bigger stars? Give me a break!
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January 6, 2015 at 7:38 AM
The other funny thing is the lumping of Salman and SRK as stars who do more films than Aamir: Salman yes, but Aamir, Hrithik and SRK are all now firmly in the one film-a-year paradigm for the most part…
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January 6, 2015 at 8:10 AM
PK success seems to have hurt BOI the most i would like to know how do you decide who is the biggest star what is the criteria here ? always thought its the combination of everything from opening day numbers to weekend to lifetime numbers here BOI is saying that if u get the biggest numbers on day1 you are the biggest star nothing else matters after that really ? As for opening day numbers Aamir broke a holiday release chennai express with a non holiday release Dhoom 3 had the biggest weekend too but at that time they said the film had that grand look which helped the film got the kind of initial it did but the same can be said about Kick and Hny too no ? both films were shot on a very large scale both had that grand look BOI talked about and budget wise both films were far more expensive than PK inspite all that PK managed to do as much as Kick on opening day and easily had a bigger weekend and very nearly matched Hny but is it even fair to compare a film like PK which was more of a multiplex film to Kick which catered to both multiplexes as well as single screens equally . From a boxoffice point of view Salman khan did more for Kick than Aamir khan for PK ? LOL what a ridiculous thing to say have certainly made their agenda very clear constantly putting down Aamir they have done that in the past they are doing it now again .
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January 6, 2015 at 8:37 AM
it is clear BOI is biased towards SRK and against AAMIR.even after all this u name it and aamir has done it all opening day,weekend,week to week records and lifetime.no one is even comprable to AAMIR and they r talking this non sense.after 3idiots,BOI was asked wether AAMIR is no.1 they at time said without a doubt and AAMIR is having highest high at that time
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January 6, 2015 at 8:48 AM
Not just BOI, most popular BO sources and part of media who generally participate the most into BO reporting (generally inflated) don’t know what has hit them since 2008. They can’t believe and trying to somehow turn back time. LOL.And Aamir keeps making them look like bunch of idiots.
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January 6, 2015 at 8:52 AM
Lol. Are they living in this world or have they lost their senses. Poor losers they sound like.
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January 6, 2015 at 8:47 AM
4 out of last 5 movies of AAMIR are all time grosser and still this nonsense.shame on BOI
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January 6, 2015 at 8:56 AM
@coolguy do u know aman.is he on satyamshot
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January 6, 2015 at 8:57 AM
No. I have no idea on Aman. I think only Jayshah will remember who I am since he is on my FB.
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January 6, 2015 at 8:12 PM
@ Saurabh i’m Aman, but does not seem to know you! Still not sure “am i the same Aman you are searching for.”
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January 7, 2015 at 1:59 AM
r u aman of NG and earlier at Indiafm forum.i m aamirsaurabh of indiafm
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January 7, 2015 at 7:34 AM
I’ve been active on these sites but with the same user name. Began following NG in 2006 and got smitten by Satyam’s very lengthy but fabulous posts on almost all the topics one could think of besides cinema. Since then it’s become kind of addiction to visit NG earlier and afterwards Satyamshot at least once a day. And i owe Satyam a lot in making me what i’m today as his conduct has been worth emulating all these years under all the circumstances and his oceanic knowledge keeps surprising me. All the members of this blog have taught me a thing or two and it feels as if we all are a big family. I wish that this blog keeps flourishing in the years to come. A proud Satyamshite 🙂 .
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January 7, 2015 at 8:36 AM
“A proud Satyamshite 🙂 .”
I am sorry for you…
Ha! Just kidding (or half-kidding).. but thanks for this comment.. I honestly cannot agree with very much here but I’m certainly glad that you’re part of the discussion..
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January 7, 2015 at 8:51 AM
with what id r u there on NG and second question were u on indiafm forum
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January 7, 2015 at 9:58 AM
may be Satyamshot-ite, my shot at being neologist 😉 But proud i am and will forever.
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January 7, 2015 at 10:02 AM
@ Saurabh With Aman for a very short period on NG and myselfaamir on Indiafm. Feels great when somebody still remembers you after so many years. Hope to see you here more often.
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January 6, 2015 at 9:02 AM
i don’t know what else aamir needs to do to become no.1 he is no.1 from 2008,many wld ask why 2008 bcoz ghajini hype even before release was unprecedented and was no. 1 awaited movie
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January 6, 2015 at 9:06 AM
Aamir needs to pay BOI , media and all other sites to become no.1. Breaking BO records can be done by Rajpal Yadav with good content.
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January 7, 2015 at 1:32 AM
The case for Aamir Khan being No 1 at the moment exists esp after Dhoom 3 and now PK. However common perception outside of Aamir khan fans are very important. Unless they tell that he is No 1, he cannot be.
In case of Aamitabh it happenned.
In case of Salman it happened.
I do not know what Aamir has to do but he doesn’t commance the respect the way Salman does. Now I do not know why?
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January 7, 2015 at 10:32 AM
@myselfaamir r u also a fan of dark knight. and is this last comment on NG site made by u or not.
aman Delight44 July 29, 2012 at Permalink Log in to reply. Aur Ek Tha Chinkara ATBB… Jan 03, 5:40 PM
http://www.naachgaana.com/2012/07/27/ek-tha-tiger-need-not-carry-any-burden/
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January 7, 2015 at 11:52 AM
I’ve stopped visiting NG for more than a year. But still there are at least 2 things common binding us together, Hindi films and Aamir.
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January 6, 2015 at 9:12 AM
not only rajpal but also by sharman joshi(toh baat pakki) and madhavan (teen patti) just after 3 idiots
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January 6, 2015 at 9:19 AM
First it was award functions losing credibility and now BO media. Sick!!
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January 6, 2015 at 10:17 AM
I think BOI is both right and wrong when they say Salman and Srk do more for their movie than Aamir.
Right because
Aamir can probably sell a Dhoom type Crap once or twice..but not in succession.
Srk or Salman on the other hand have been selling the same shit for years and still getting away with successes (although nowhere close to aamir)
Wrong because
What an Aamir can do for a Talaash, TZP, Lagaan or PK is what srk or salman can’t for such movies.. We saw what happened to Swades or Paheli..,.or the least masala of Salman’s collection- Jai Ho..(sorry didn’t have a better example)..Not many can give a 90 crore somewhat success out of a movie like Talaash.
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January 7, 2015 at 1:02 AM
So hence forth top stars need to keep working in crap movies to show their BO and star power and show how much they can sell crap for. What a logic!! This is Bull***. Aamir will be follwed and respected for what he is and his work. These sites are good only for checking nos. which too get questioned time and again.
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January 7, 2015 at 2:28 AM
One just needs to do a inflation adjusted list of all Khan movies (in which they were leads) since 2004 (ie the year Aamir came back from exile). Then do an average per movie. Doodh ka Doodh paani ka paani nazar aa jayega.
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January 7, 2015 at 2:46 AM
All these adjustments can be very subjective/perceptive. Not a fan of those. Jayshah can give out a try though if he is interested, but I am not going go use that outcome as any parameter. There are too many ifs and buts and genre also plays part.
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January 7, 2015 at 3:08 AM
If 100 crore gets 1 point, 200 crores should get 4 points and 250 crores should get 8 points and 300 crores should get 16 points. And 400 crores should get 64 points! It gets difficult after 250 crores. If people are ready to pay more to watch a certain movie, it means the movie is in demand and they dont want to wait for months to watch it on tv or dvds. If SRK doubles ticket prices for his next movie and can get 400 crores, his getting 64 points is the mark of star power of SRK. Movies run on star power first, content next and when star power and content both combine we get ATBB.
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January 6, 2015 at 10:17 AM
In related news, Linga’s distributors are suing producers and Rajnikanth for their losses and going on a fast.
Sounds stupid but you can’t make this up!
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January 6, 2015 at 10:35 AM
http://www.newindianexpress.com/cities/chennai/Distributors-Move-HC-to-stage-Protest-for-Lingaa-Flop-Relief/2015/01/06/article2605661.ece
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January 6, 2015 at 10:34 AM
top Tamil movies in 2014:
http://www.sify.com/movies/Top-10-Tamil-films-at-the-box-office-imagegallery-kollywood-pbdmrucgifiac.html
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January 6, 2015 at 10:34 AM
http://www.sify.com/movies/small-movies-that-made-big-money-at-tn-box-office-news-tamil-pbfjsBciadgdh.html
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January 6, 2015 at 10:34 AM
“I” confirmed for Jan 14:
http://www.sify.com/movies/it-s-official-shankar-s-i-on-january-14-news-tamil-pbgjbmhabbjfe.html
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January 6, 2015 at 11:01 AM
For Lalita Ben…….
On the other hand, a Malayalam filmmaker has been running from pillar to post for nearly two years after his film was denied censor certificate, allegedly for hurting the sentiments of the Christian community.
Koothuparamba native T Deepesh completed the film Pithavinum Puthranum in 2012, with great expectations because that was a departure from the kind of films that the Malayali audience were used to. But, unfortunately, it was rejected clearance by the Central Board of Film Certification (CBFC) even after the director approached the review committee.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/malayalam/movies/news/Two-years-on-Malayalam-film-awaits-Censor-Board-clearance/articleshow/45776647.cms
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January 6, 2015 at 12:05 PM
In India Nehruvian secularism = Hinduphobe.
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January 6, 2015 at 12:15 PM
How can a movie cause any harm to the Religion ( sure, true, it does not ).
But then how does Islam in khatrey mein, by a police drill wearing skull caps ( Sickularists)
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January 6, 2015 at 12:19 PM
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January 6, 2015 at 12:24 PM
A very tight slap to the Commies/ Paki Bhakts….
GAURAV C SAWANT
@gauravcsawant Sympathy for Sohrabuddin, Ishrat Jahan, Batla House, putting Delhi Police, Navy, Coast Guard in the dock! What’s the game plan?
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January 8, 2015 at 5:40 AM
They have not been able to prove this and are coming up with silly answers. This Terror boat myth was to take people’s attention away from their Land Grabbing ordinance.
Every time there is something seriously wrong going on (which is most of the time) they come up witrh such stories to boost their image and with the media behind them in full force people are fed with lies and nonsense all the time.
Now they want to divert attention further by bringing in Sunanda case while giving vclean chits to their gundas like Amit Shah. Plus nothing going on with all the Nihal Chands and other criminals sitting in parliament.
hobnobbing with separatists and PDP types doesn’t tarnish their image proving the mafia that’s at work (politicians + media + cronies)
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January 6, 2015 at 12:46 PM
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/top-stories/Sunil-Gavaskar-all-praise-for-Indias-World-Cup-squad/articleshow/45778989.cms
“India’s batting looks good and as far as bowling is concerned, if they can bowl well on the surfaces in Australia, they have a good chance,” he told a TV news channel.
Opener Shikhar Dhawan, who struggled in the ongoing Test series against Australia, has also been retained in the squad, and Gavaskar feels he is a better choice over Murali Vijay in the limited-over format.
“The World Cup is 50-over format and this is the format which will suit Dhawan more,” he pointed out.
The fans have taken to the social networking sites after the World Cup squad was announced on Tuesday, criticising Stuart Binny’s inclusion in the side. His father, Roger, incidentally is a member of the selection committee.
But Gavaskar lashed out at the fans, stating that he would have also picked Stuart, irrespective of his father being a former teammate.
Read on.
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January 6, 2015 at 12:55 PM
Is it mandatory that we have to win World Cup?
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January 6, 2015 at 1:08 PM
YES! We may not have bread at home but this CUP is must.
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January 6, 2015 at 1:27 PM
LOL. I don’t fancy India’s chances at all. I think the Aussies will win and will have extra motivation following Phil Hughes death. My outside pick is West Indies. Can’t see Asian team succeeding on the fast bouncy wickets. In test cricket at least India are batting well enough and it is true batting well enough was enough in the last world cup because home advantage covered any flaws in bowling attack. But bowling will be a huge concern. Would love to be proved otherwise.
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January 6, 2015 at 1:45 PM
I am not sure why Stuart Binny gets so many chanes. He has done nothing.
I cant understand Munna’s comment.
Just because the nation is poor or vast segments of its population are, does it make
Taking part in and following a sport and taking pride in a nation’s victory an unworthy pursuit?
It actually helps as it takes people’s minds away from the humdrum and difficulties of a daily grind. Cricket is a sport that is followed and enjoyed by all classes and its popularity
Cuts across all boundaries .
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January 6, 2015 at 2:04 PM
I think we should compete best of the abilities. But there are other things in life.
http://greatbong.net/2015/01/02/on-dhoni/
I prefer more like Dhoni’s approach than other mention cricketers.
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January 7, 2015 at 2:58 AM
Don’t think Binny has got many chances at all- in the last ODI he played he had a 6 wicket haul (now he certainly he isn’t a good enough bowler to get too many fifers, here too he was playing against a minnow). He was then criminally underused by Dhoni in the England tests (though there too he did get a fifty). Finally the guy has been taken because few of the World Cup matches will be played in New Zealand where the bowl swings and Binny, like his father, can swing the bowl (apart from the fact that he gives Dhoni the option of playing a fast-bowling allrounder: had the World Cup been in India I doubt he would have been in the squad). I wish they would have selected Pravin Kumar though- this guy certainly wrecked his career (mainly because of poor fitness), but as far as I am concerned he has been the only swing bowler of any real class since Kapil. The guy bowled one of the best spells by an Indian pace bowler in the 2008 VB series finals against the Aussies and couple that with his ability to take wickets in the first 5-6 overs, he would have been very valuable in the World Cup (especially since the current pace attack is completely toothless)
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January 7, 2015 at 10:10 AM
Saurabh, would love to hear from you about PK and Haider. Lately you have been very infrequent here, love reading yours, Qalandar’s, GF’s, Sanjana’s, Di’s, Bliss’s, Munna’s, Oldgold’s, Jayshah’s, Nykavi’s insightful views.
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January 6, 2015 at 1:24 PM
Imran Khan has remarried:
http://www.express.co.uk/news/showbiz/550509/Imran-Khan-marries-BBC-presenter-Reham-Khan
I’ve seen her on Arnab Goswami’s show.
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January 6, 2015 at 1:32 PM
Your roving eye never miss beautiful face 😉
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January 6, 2015 at 2:54 PM
I watched two of her videos. Seems like an ambitious lady but I don’t want her to end up like one mrs Tharoor.
Below is one interesting comment 🙂
“First wife was 21 year old Jewish girl, when he was 40 years old.
Second wife a 41 year old British weather girl, and a professional tango dancer, when he is 62. what an achievement. keep the good work Imran khan we will all learn tango.”
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January 6, 2015 at 3:34 PM
Interesting read
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/commentators/jemima-khan/brought-to-book-jemima-khan-on-appearing-in-her-exhusbands-memoir-2360830.html
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January 6, 2015 at 5:35 PM
PK Hits Century In Mumbai Circuit
Tuesday 06 January 2014 10.30 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
PK hit the 100 crore nett mark in Mumbai in eighteen days. It is the first time that a film has a 100 crore nett in any circuit. The Mumbai circuit collections are as follows.
Week One – 61,84,00,000
Week Two – 29,73,00,000
Week Three – 8,75,00,000 apprx (4 days)
Total 1,00,32,00,000
The pace in third weekend did slow in Mumbai circuit compared to other circuits but still it should finish close to 110 crore nett mark.
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January 7, 2015 at 3:30 AM
http://ibnlive.in.com/news/worlds-top-10-poisons-for-assassinating-people-in-descending-order-of-potency/521674-3.html
In the context of Sunanda Pushkar’s news.
Journalists are very helpful!
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January 7, 2015 at 4:59 AM
It was obvious to just about everyone in India the day after her death that the poor woman had been murdered. Today Mr. Tharoor was “stunned”. Um, yeah.
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January 7, 2015 at 6:38 AM
yeah he says he didn’t suspect anything. Given that everyone else did and it was all over the media he must have been on Mars!
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January 7, 2015 at 10:58 AM
But the act of his wife committing suicide seemed ‘normal’ to him. It’s only the murder that shocks him.
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January 7, 2015 at 11:42 AM
Just heard about the istanbul and paris attacks– outrageous stuff but the word “outrageous” itself has become stale!
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January 7, 2015 at 12:09 PM
Hideous attack in Paris. Another sad day for good people. Another happy day for bad people
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January 7, 2015 at 2:57 PM
This Islamist madness continues. Yesterday it was Istanbul, today it’s Paris. And of course the latter is a much more serious episode. I even hesitate to use the word ‘madness’ inasmuch as it suggests a kind of passive irrationality as opposed to the toxic and cancerous politics it is in the most active sense of the term.
Just to be clear about this (so that no one is confused) I said ‘ Islamist’ not ‘Islamic’. The two are not at all the same.
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January 8, 2015 at 6:28 AM
Islamic and Islamist both sound similar though their meanings are different. France has a history of bloody revolutions and now this killing of 12 is making such a big news. The international media is selective in expressing their shock. Their world is so small and limited.
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January 7, 2015 at 8:58 AM
http://www.koimoi.com/box-office/pk-crosses-the-massive-600-cr-mark-worldwide/
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January 7, 2015 at 9:14 AM
“.. PK has once again after Dhoom 3 shown Aamir Khan’s mighty power at the box office…”
Perhaps Komal Nahta should consult with BOI.
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January 7, 2015 at 9:13 AM
PK At 35 Crore Nett For Third Week
Wednesday 07 January 2015 10.30 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
PK has grossed 3.75 crore nett om its third Tuesday to take its lifetime total to 312 crore nett plus. The third week collections is as follows.
Friday – 6,50,00,000
Saturday- 8,50,00,000
Sunday – 12,00,00,000
Monday – 4,25,00,000
Tuesday – 3,75,00,000
Total – 35,00,00,000
The third week will see the film doing its best business in Delhi/UP grossing around 10 crore nett which is less than 50% fall from last week. Mumbai circuit will see a 65% drop.
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January 7, 2015 at 12:37 PM
It’s basically heading towards 340-350 crore life totals. Based on the opening week of 182.5 crore, that would indicate average weekly drops of between 52-54%. That’s desperately close to doubling the initial and if one takes stock that the first week had a Xmas day worth 27 crore, you’ve practically got your film that doubled its initial. Yes, in today’s times, of spiralling ticket prices, wide releases, front loading…..a film can double its initial and more in fact. Now cry babies may want to say technically 52-54% is not a double, well technically that is right. Or that this should be a 400 crore film (when a Bang Bang is a 140 crore film!)
But the debate was always it was possible and PK proves this loud and clear. One day a better film (and make no mistake PK has flaws to make it much better, it was not the tight fine polished effort 3 Idiots was or the standout hilarious moments) will come along and provide the message even more profoundly.
2nd weeks don’t need to fall north of 70% and films don’t need to become desperate to scratch around for a few crores in week 2 or 3. Only films “designed” in such a way do this. And proclaiming them to be big hits is only promoting more to be made!
I needn’t remind the naysayers that the records PK is breaking as it will only fuel more idiotic comments from their side…but I would simply like to say…WE TOLD YOU SO!
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January 7, 2015 at 2:54 PM
Perfectly pitched comment in every sense.. nothing one could add to it.
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January 7, 2015 at 9:42 AM
Every online movie buff is a closet Aamir fan. But they wont admit to it to prove a useless point on forums and FB groups. I bet many of them have already watched PK multiple times.
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January 7, 2015 at 11:20 AM
You mean the Salman or SRK or Hrithik or Akshay fan who secretly watches all of Aamir’s films and secretly likes most of them but still bashes him on forums at every opportunity and “falsely” dislikes his films? And secretly they would have liked “their” star to be in that movie? Really? Are you serious? That is an outrageous observation!
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January 7, 2015 at 11:59 AM
Lol. Good one!
Being movie buffs and part of real discussions, I’m positive they are doing well in life and are sensible enough to appreciate a fine film which is a decent entertainer. They would appreciate an SRK and Akki in the same setup, just like Special 26 was praised to the skies by the same people and Fan and Raees are already being celebrated. With Aamir all sorts of theories suddenly appear which make no sense at all.
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January 7, 2015 at 5:43 PM
‘trust’ can be painful, you know like the collections of pk…yes thats right the same where ranbir acted better than aamir :P:P
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January 7, 2015 at 11:46 PM
Ranbir is a good actor and is capable to act the best and even Aamir appreciates him but seriously if u think that way in his 30 sec stint in PK you just dishing out hatred towards Aamir.
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January 7, 2015 at 10:55 AM
http://movies.ndtv.com/bollywood/why-pk-credits-thanked-sri-sri-ravi-shankar-723946?utm_source=ndtv&utm_medium=top-stories-widget&utm_campaign=story-20-http%3a%2f%2fmovies.ndtv.com%2fbollywood%2fwhy-pk-credits-thanked-sri-sri-ravi-shankar-723946
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January 7, 2015 at 9:23 PM
Real shocking news coming out of France with the shootout at the Charlie Hebdo office supposedly because of the cartoons lampooning prophet Mohammed.
I am so glad Raju Hirani and Aamir Khan chose to steer clear of including observations on Islam. Would have been devastating to see them fall prey to such senseless violence
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January 7, 2015 at 11:51 PM
Hirani subtlely made observations about all belief systems about religion is like parents and relatives, an accident which one has not chosen for oneself. The credit or discredit should entirely go to Hirani for script while aamir can be given credit or discredit for his acting prowess.
We should not forget that Mahatma Gandhi, Indira Gandhi, Rajiv Gandhi were murdered in a similar way. Madness and intolerance are not confined to any particular culture or religion. It is in the minds.
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January 8, 2015 at 8:28 AM
“Madness and intolerance are not confined to any particular culture or religion. It is in the minds.”
What a joke.
Madness and intolerance aka terrorism world over is confined to ONE particuler religion. Like it or leave it.
Hirani and Aamir together didn’t have the collective balls to make movie on REAL issue. They picked soft, innocent target to make their 300 crores!!
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January 8, 2015 at 9:36 AM
Aamir acted in Sarfarosh too in which he openly criticised Pakistan and the villain was a pakistani. And he acted as Mangal Pandey, the epitome of patriotism.
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January 8, 2015 at 10:27 AM
“Aamir acted in Sarfarosh too in which he openly criticised Pakistan and the villain was a Pakistani”
You are mixing region with religion here.. Criticizing Pakistan is easy.. Criticizing Muslims is not.
in OMG Paresh said a lot more than PK even tried
Paresh says to his neighbor- Hajj pe paise barbad karne se achha hai..apni dukaan ki marammat karwa lo
then on tv show he says– dharm sirf aatankwaadi banwa sakta hai..
Give the credit where its due..rather than being blinded by fanaticisim.
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January 8, 2015 at 9:54 AM
PK is a watered down version of OMG. Why this strident criticism reserved for Aamir, not Paresh Rawal? Soft and innocent. What a joke!
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January 8, 2015 at 10:46 AM
Paapaas – greet point on region and religion.
Why do you think the commies support Batala, Ishrat, and the terror boat..in their mind defending Pakistan will win them votes of Indian Muslims.
Sanjana is just echoing the same thing here, not surprised at all !!!
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January 8, 2015 at 11:15 AM
paapas is blind bhakt of omg and I dont need to learn from such a person. Pakistan is synonymous with muslims for many. When did anyone consider Pakistan without their religion? As for you Omrocky, you are obsessed with commies and martians to think of anything else. One obsessed supporting another obsessed.
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January 8, 2015 at 11:18 AM
Paapaas, Why should aamir blame muslims? Did he blame hindus? He was made to blame godmen among hindus and terrorists among muslims by the script.
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January 8, 2015 at 11:21 AM
I dont need to learn from someone who considers an average film like OMG as classic. For your information, I dont consider any of aamir’s films as classic.
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January 8, 2015 at 3:38 PM
Sanjana,
The terrorsit angle was the most half baked implementation of the idea. A major part of the climax could have dealt on Islamic terorism but it didn’t. They Chickened out and showed a nonsensical India-Pak thing (the same feel good khichdi that Hirani cooks in almost all his films) instead.
On PK: aamir didn’t blame godmen of any religion..He (pk) just analyzed (and hence criticized) modes of worshipping or instead modes of connecting to God (the telephone to god was a metaphor in case you didn’t notice) It was not about godmen making that call through his chamatkars or even common man making that call through their bribes (baba or no baba), their elaborate pujas, or their kurbaanis.
The Bias is that even though PK was successful in pointing out the wastage of money and resources (and exploitation of faith) in case of Hindu methods (based on that religion) .. He didn’t even once touch the topic of those Islamic teachers that destroy the minds of young kids in madarsaas which is the seed to Islamic terrorism. While a Hindu godmen (Saurabh Shukla) was depicted as Islam hating (in multiple lines in the film)..there wasn’t a simgle instance shown in the movie that showed a muslim maulvi talking about violence against other religions.
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January 8, 2015 at 4:03 PM
OMG was an extremely safe movie. They had a character who din’t believe in God and questioned his existence. They din’t really pick any religion per se. Nor do I remember. They had a few Godmen who resembled real life Godmen and people enjoyed that. I don’t remember anything in Islam or Christianity even close to being questioned. They may have questioned a few hindu ways but that too from someone who had no faith on God.
And they had Akki playing Krishna. Lol. What else Hindu believers want. Their God is shown as existing and gives Hinduism the backing. OMG was only against fake Goldman. It technically din’t question anything else.
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January 8, 2015 at 4:28 PM
I’ve made this point earlier as well but this whole OMG analogy has become really stale by now. Barring with one or two people it was always cynically employed to begin with. But leaving aside this foolishness and leaving aside even the comparison with PK the idea that this is some bold revolutionary movie is frankly utterly absurd. I’ve hardly made this claim for PK either but nonetheless PK is a vastly better film than OMG (a film which I otherwise like) in just about every way. Still it’s one thing to prefer OMG and quite another to go on arguing for its radical nature!
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January 8, 2015 at 6:26 PM
So your grouse is that moulvis were not questioned. You are missing that they made a very strong statement when they showed the blast scene and people dying and aamir mentioned khuda. If we take your argument, then they should have shown babri demolition that preceded these blasts and godhra.This is the reason why even some muslim clerics gave statements against PK hurting thier sentiments.
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January 8, 2015 at 2:30 AM
The amazing fact is that while religious satire in France was gunned down, religious satire in India was wholesomely welcomed and elevated to highest-grossing status. Speaks volumes of Indian society: Middle of the road, with bonhomie at large between disparate groups.
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January 8, 2015 at 5:31 AM
NYKavi: PK or no PK, I don’t think we in India have much to be complacent about when it comes to protecting freedom of expression. India was the first country in the world to ban The Satanic Verses; the CPIM in West Bengal banned a book on Bose’s affair with a European woman, even though there was hardly anything controversial about publishing the man’s own letters to her!; James Laine’s book suggesting that Shivaji might have been born out of wedlock was also banned after hooligans attacked an institute where he had conducted research; two girls were arrested (and later released, mercifully) in Thane after some pretty ordinary FB posts after Bal Thackeray’s death; and there are many more such examples. One might even argue that in India terrorists don’t NEED to attack the Charlie Hebdos of the country because the state will shut things down for them, under the guise of maintaining public order; so no need to kill 12 people as a little hooliganism, some ghundagardi auditions from political groups will get them what they want (in France, they couldn’t so then the terrorists used Plan B, i.e. intimidate private parties).
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January 8, 2015 at 11:18 AM
Q, agree somewhat
While there is no excuse for terrorism and killing, religion and faith is a very sensitive issue and people of all faiths are grappling with it.
There are plenty of other things to question and mock and freedom of expression or not, best to stay away from mocking religion or the symbols or representatives of the religion. Nothing constructive comes out of it.
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January 8, 2015 at 11:21 AM
Something like PK or even OMG is obviously different and safer as they question traditions, practices and intermediaries only. Tho some can’t stach even that.
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January 8, 2015 at 5:31 AM
Lets not go overboard with ‘we in India don’t kill on religious grounds’. We do.
The difference lies in the fact that in India it is the innocent who are targeted for being different.
So much noise about 18 killings in France just because the killers were muslims (not supporting it, I’m absolutely against it) but no noise about the 80+ trubals killed in Assam.
Lets not forget Narendra Dabholkar, killed for fighting against superstition propogated by these holy men.
Also we must not forget the FB post that led to violence and a Pune techy got stoned to death. The leader of this party which unleashed violence is being rewarded by VHP.
Maybe mass killings of this sort has not yet been resorted to but it is slowly moving that way with the same ideology that the counterparts in India adopt.
The love jihad picture of Kareena on the cover of a magazine run by these people is the latest propogating hate.
In short, it is only now that people with similar ideology are feeling free, and their spreading hate is catching up speed day by day.
It’s a crime to say anything against jews in west.
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January 8, 2015 at 5:41 AM
Also M F Hussain who lived in exile for fear of his life.
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January 8, 2015 at 12:45 AM
http://www.financialexpress.com/article/lifestyle/showbiz/aamir-khans-pk-box-office-collections-hit-rs-300-cr-were-they-powered-by-ghosts/26495/
There are couple of more such articles coming out. So Rentrak, BOI, talkingmoviez etc. all giving fake nos. Lol. This is what media has resorted to.
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January 8, 2015 at 1:47 AM
These guys are nutz. Will they also cast aspersions on the International collections. $10M crossed in US, will they now accuse BoxOfficeMojo and other companies of providing incorrect US BO figures?
Madhu Kishwar, Sucheta Dalal et al are just smarting over the fact that PK has been very well liked and their agenda to derail the movie has failed. Thankfully, in India all that these rightwing loons can do is tweet illogical comments. No risk of Paris like attacks here. Aamir/Hirani are safe.
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January 8, 2015 at 7:19 AM
Aamir and PK’s success is the result of a long process. After the success of Ghajini, deep-pocket producers indulged in mindless competition to be in the Rs. 100-crore club. Mindless because the focus was on marketing rather than the content. Audiences winced at each nonsensical Rs. 100 crore film, but Aamir stood apart in their view. – See more at: http://www.hindustantimes.com/entertainment/bollywood/being-aamir-khan-the-serial-success-of-a-superstar/article1-1304434.aspx#sthash.D5mwOUP8.dpuf
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January 8, 2015 at 8:02 AM
Send that link to BOI.com
They need to wake up.
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January 8, 2015 at 7:24 AM
There are good muslims and others.
There are good hindus and others.
Why the others overpower the good ones is the good ones are silent and indecisive. While the others are more organised and ready to fight dirty. The good ones are ready to give up easily and the others take advantage. The good ones are usually timid and paper tigers.
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January 8, 2015 at 7:30 AM
http://www.hindustantimes.com/entertainment/bollywood/sachin-tendulkar-to-debut-on-big-screen-with-biopic/article1-1304592.aspx
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January 8, 2015 at 7:40 AM
It will be great to watch Sachin himself in his biopic.
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January 8, 2015 at 8:03 AM
http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/actor-kareena-kapoor-free-to-sue-over-morphed-photo-says-vhp-645825?pfrom=home-topstories
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January 8, 2015 at 8:42 AM
more on the Lingaa failure:
http://www.ndtv.com/article/south/superstar-rajinikanth-asked-to-help-refund-losses-for-lingaa-645917?pfrom=home-lateststories
still surprised that Rajni took up such an indifferent project.
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January 8, 2015 at 10:32 AM
Salma- Sabrina back in full force, comparing terror with Protests . Sick- Sick !!
Indian “liberals” are as predictable as religious bigots. As soon as Islamic terrorists barged into the office of Charlie Hebdo, a French satirical magazine, and killed around a dozen of people, one thought they would shed their predictable behavior of being apologist for Islamic terrorists. But one was expecting too much.
Take a look at what they had to say
http://www.opindia.com/2015/01/shocking-liberal-reactions-on-the-french-terror-attack/
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January 8, 2015 at 10:51 AM
Yeh bi padh loo 😉
http://virsanghvi.com/Article-Details.aspx?key=1130
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January 8, 2015 at 10:57 AM
Keh Kar ley lee !! LOL!
Aside- I know Kiran Bedi is getting a lot of flak for this, but I kind of agree with her, why offend unnecessarily in the name of FOE?
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January 8, 2015 at 11:25 AM
There is probably no other country where: It has become a national pastime among its educated class to denigrate its own culture and history, however great that has been over the many millennia of its existence. When great archaeological discoveries of India’s past are found, for example, they are not a subject for national pride but are ridiculed as an exaggeration, if not an invention, as if they represent only the imagination of backward chauvinistic elements within the culture.
There is probably no other country where: The majority religion, however enlightened, mystical or spiritual, is ridiculed, while minority religions, however fundamentalist or even militant, are doted upon. The majority religion and its institutions are taxed and regulated while minority religions receive tax benefits and have no regulation or even monitoring. While the majority religion is carefully monitored and limited as to what it can teach, minority religions can teach what they want, even if anti-national or backward in nature. Books are banned that offend minority religious sentiments but praised if they cast insults on majority beliefs.
There is probably no other country where: Regional, caste and family loyalties are more important than the national interest, even among those who claim to be democratic, socialist or caste reformers. Political parties exist not to promote a national agenda but to sustain one region or group of people in the country at the expense of the whole. Each group wants as big a piece of the national pie as it can get, not realizing that the advantages it gains mean deprivation for other groups. Yet when those who were previously deprived gain power, they too seek the same unequal advantages that causes further inequality and discontent.
The killing of one Christian missionary: Becomes a national media event of anti-Christian attacks while the murder of hundreds of Hindus is taken casually as without any real importance, as if only the deaths of white-skinned people mattered, not the slaughter of the natives. Missionary aggression is extolled as social upliftment, while Hindu efforts at self-defense against the conversion onslaught are portrayed as rabid fundamentalism. One Indian journalist even lamented that western armies would not come to India to chastise the political groups he was opposed to, as if he was still looking for the colonial powers to save him!
The irony: Is that rather than embracing its own great traditions, the modern Indian psyche prefers to slavishly imitate worn out trends in western intellectual thought like Marxism or even to right apologetics for Christian and Islamic missionary aggression. Though living in India, in proximity to temples, yogis and great festivals, most modern Indian intellectuals are oblivious to the soul of the land. They might as well be living in England or China for all they know of their own country.
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January 8, 2015 at 11:37 AM
still waiting for you to translate all of this into Hindi and leave behind the ‘slavish colonial’ attitude once and for all..
what a good nationalist like you is doing ‘slavishly’ living in the US would be the next question..
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January 8, 2015 at 11:40 AM
English was invented by ancient wisemen of India belonging to hindu religion.
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January 8, 2015 at 12:15 PM
It’s hard to have serious discussions with certain folks but Eng is simply an Indian language at this point. Yes it grew out of a colonial history in India but nonetheless it’s now a permanent part of India. Some dictionaries like Chambers even mention Indian English as a separate variety. In Latin America Spanish is the overwhelmingly dominant language everywhere (barring Brazil.. though the same principle holds here). This again happened because of a history of colonization. It was even worse here because so much of the native population was exterminated (either willingly or by way of infectious disease.. they had no immunity against many viruses that the Europeans brought with them). But still Spanish is in a pragmatic sense even the only language in this region in many cases. And so much of history is about dramatic changes happening because of such events. One can have a view about all of this (and certainly the history of colonialism is a terribly sordid and brutal one) without foolishly arguing against Eng or what have you. No serious critic of thinker of colonialism offers such absurd prescriptions. Of course in the case of India ‘Hindutva’ is a colonial/European phenomenon through and through. It precisely has nothing to do with all the strands of Hindu thought, practice and belief that preceded it (not that those were a unity either.. the word ‘Hinduism’ is itself a British invention!). And so once again you see these ignorant arguments being rehashed all the time. British history is part of Indian history, there’s nothing to be done about it! And it is impossible to imagine contemporary India without that intervention. From the Constitution to all the institutions of the state the British intervention is obvious everywhere.
This doesn’t mean one has to endorse everything. We don’t have to endorse the extermination of American ‘Indians’ and yet here we are (some of us at least!) in the US living with English and with the ‘remains’ of an exterminated population. We (some of us) living in England, the ‘mother’ country once upon a time. So on and so forth. one has to be mature about this stuff. Ideology founded on such ignorance is precisely the most dangerous thing. There is so much violence to be found everywhere in history in the name of everything under the sun that it’s really hard to keep track, impossible to account for everything. Similarly for me violence doesn’t just become so outside the borders of a nation-state or what have you. So yes there is a history of colonialism in India which was often brutal, there is equally a history of Muslim rule that was often brutal too, there is an even older history of ‘Hindu’ rule which is as brutal, one could go down the list. The original Indians, the ‘adivasis’ (those who refer to ‘Hindus’ as ‘outsiders’ in their languages even if conveniently this sixth of the Indian population is always ignored, always the most brutalized).. or ‘later’ perhaps the Dravidians who consider themselves prior to a ‘Hindu’ Northern invasion.. it goes on. But nothing is as violent in Indian history, as the history of caste domination and all its institutions. It is one of the most astonishingly dark episodes of world history, certainly so for the longevity it’s had.
But those who are not serious, those who are ideological automatons, or those who believe in kindergarten views of history, such folks are happy with fairy-tales and in the age of online media they can permanently inhabit their bubbles. There are many such folks everywhere in all religions or adherents to all kinds of politics and so forth. There are of course many things that can be seriously debated. For instance there was a discussion about censorship earlier and I completely agree that it was wrong to place the customs ban on the Satanic verses or pander to minorities shamelessly on many of these issues. Here the other side certainly has a point. But these discussions can only come about in an atmosphere of sincerity and good faith. When people come up with the most toxic stuff, that is either stupidly, insanely ignorant and/or terrifying in terms of its ideological consequences, and then when they complain about ‘fairness’ it’s a bit hard to take them seriously. If you say the most atrocious stuff and believe in some pretty disturbing things and then say this is all only so that the balance of the universe might be set right and if this did happen they’d all become nice constitutional democrats (!) one can only laugh.
I’ve said this many times before but ultimately these are questions of responsibility. When one constantly blames the other side and refuses to look in the mirror (whoever does it) this is a way of always evading responsibility. One is always this innocent victim of history who has never done anything. In every nation of the word there are those who believe this stuff. It animates the politics of so many nations. Much like the belief of being the greatest civilization, the best possible one with the best values and what not. Of course everyone cannot be right at the same time but these are logical questions too complex and complicated for some. Getting back to the subject at hand the idea that one can be a hyper-nationalist with respect to India without bothering to live in India is evidently an irony lost on many. This doesn’t of course mean that one has to always live in one’s country to call oneself a nationalist. Absolutely not. But there are certain brands of jingoism and chauvinism that beg the question. Again one always keeps good company in these matters. There are others like one from other parts of the world doing the very same!
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January 8, 2015 at 12:20 PM
satyam: in secular u.s can you have non christian president
people in u.s and u.k are safeguarding there local interest you have namoonas…
mandrin speaking chinese is classic example of whats its all about the other comparable to indian civilisation
btw what she is doing in u.s ask yourself when reservation lead to mass migration…read betwwen lines even in u.s the second most educated migrant community after jews are hindus
futher get a life with your sanskrit phobia
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January 8, 2015 at 12:27 PM
I’ll just respond to the last statement here.. it would be rather odd to have a phobia about Sanskrit given that I am not completely unschooled in this language. Which is probably more than can be said for you or the other foaming-Sanskrit-at-the-mouth types here.
As far as I’m concerned one of the richest traditions in human history whether one calls it the ‘Indian/Indic’ or the ‘Sanskritic’ or the ‘Hindu’ (all these labels of course don’t mean the same thing) has to be saved from dangerous people like yourself. There are again many like you everywhere destroying everything that is of value in a tradition. It’s unfortunate but a fact of life. But resistance to this madness is nonetheless necessary.
In any case this is not a debate. And I think enough has been said on this topic. Let’s get back to movies. Sometimes i miss the good old days when everyone just attacked Abhishek!
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January 8, 2015 at 12:31 PM
on to brutal hindu rules again guys talking nonse..maurya dynasty in 265 bce was the first time we had an united india….where does that theory goes out of window
http://www.quora.com/Who-was-the-first-emperor-of-a-united-India
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January 8, 2015 at 12:33 PM
If you define Hinduism as a religion as it is generally perceived, then no. It is not at all a binding factor.
If you define it as the Indian way of living, its culture, its languages, the ethos of its people, (some people do define it this way), then yes, it is the only binding factor.
(There is nothing special in that last line. It is just like saying, being Indian is the only binding factor. The word Hindu derives itself from the Avestan version for the River Indus or Sindhu, and as broader term for the people living in the vicinity as viewed by the Avestans. The land of these Hindus was called Hinduš. This got Latinized to the modern name India and Arabized to the name Hindustan.)
So by this definition, it is obviously the binding factor.
What I mean by this is that every single person living in India is Indian, belonging to India.
(Now, as per the above word etymology, replace the word India by Hindu. Simple as that. If you want to change the word Indian by UUTYURLN then I would have to change my answer to saying : UUTYURLN-ism is the only binding factor for United India.)
Update:
According to a 1995 Supreme Court of India judgement the word Hindutva could be used to mean “the way of life of the Indian people and the Indian culture or ethos”.
Read more here, it goes to describe in much detail
Welcome to newsanalysisindia.com SUPREME COURT ON HINDU HINDUTVA AND HINDUISM
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January 8, 2015 at 12:34 PM
The closest competitors of India in terms of multiculturalism, are western democracies like France, USA, etc, however there are major limitations imposed upon their citizens that curtail democracy.
For example: the celebrated American culture itself proclaims to be only a “Melting Pot civilization”. A deeper study would reveal that cultures and values of people who created the U.S.melted to form a single American identity. Life would thus be difficult for people in the U.S. who do not understand English, are not catholic or people who do not comply to essentially American ethos. No wonder Americans whose ancestry does not confirm to local prejudices prefer to severe links with their past. Germans, Arabs are typical examples of this phenomenon.
Similarly France known for jealously preserving its republican values does not standby anything that’s not celebrated in the typical French culture.The regional languages of France are sometimes called patois, but this term (roughly meaning “dialect”) is often considered derogatory. Patois is used to refer to supposedly purely oral languages,[citation needed] but this does not, for instance, take into account that Occitan was already being written at a time when French was not and its literature has continued to thrive, with a Nobel Prize for Frédéric Mistral in 1904.
At the time of the French revolution in 1789 it is estimated that only half of the population of France spoke French, and by 1871 only a quarter spoke French
Inspite of glaring problems in law enforcement and flourishing communalism in almost all parts of India;The kind of respect and recognition guaranteed to ethnic and religious minorities in the constitution of India may not draw many parellels even in the first world.
The Saviors
The Idea India couldn’t have survived this long without the presence of below mentioned factors:
The composite culture of India build over thousands of years deserves maximum credit . Majority of people in India(read Hindus) truly believe in the truth of all major religions in the world! Communalism though rampart now, is only a recent phenomenon in historical standards
The legacy of struggle for Indian Independence against the British,still inspires patriotism in Indians
The ingenuity of the framers of Indian constitution; that has ensured survival of democracy,inspite of all attempt to alter the basic structure of constitution over the years (42nd amendment,34th amendment etc.)
The efficiency of Indian Civil Service; sometimes considered the steel frame of Indian Union
The integrity and devotion of the Indian armed forces;who never attempted to topple the government; inspite of wide-spread public outrage at times, against the government and democratic process at large
Hostile neighborhood. the idea of being a small and militarily weak nation may not be all that appealing, if you have neighbors like Pakistan and China ready to gobble prospective regional states at the drop of a hat
And finally the quiet essential Indian traits and aspirations also have a huge role to play. Love for Cricket and Bollywood,celebration of festivals,appreciation of education, etc have helped the people of our great country and has made them stake holders in the idea of India.
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January 8, 2015 at 11:37 AM
You want English language, work in america, wear pants, use all their inventions, Then what are you doing visiiting an English Blog?
Why dont you go to hindi blogs and spread your knowledge there? Or start a sanskrit blog?
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January 8, 2015 at 12:49 PM
*** Aah there he goes..that ‘erudite’, ‘elegant’, ‘Oxford-banged’ upholder of minority rights and secularism..
These are the arseholes who carry the bamboo of ‘secularism’ up their asses***
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New Delhi: Senior Congress leader Mani Shankar Aiyar on Thursday evening justified Paris terror attacks and said that the attack was imminent. Referring to the French government ban on Muslim wearing Hijab, the Congress leader said that this is just an response.
“I think that the way which war has been conducted by Americans, we knew since then there will be such a reaction, France now should think about how to stop such attack, ” the leader added.
Scattered gunfire and explosions shook France on Thursday as its frightened yet defiant citizens held a day of mourning for 12 people slain at a Paris newspaper. French police hunted down the two heavily-armed brothers suspected in the massacre to make sure they do not strike again.
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January 8, 2015 at 12:52 PM
ok guys, there’s been enough politics in this thread.. let’s move on to films! Specially since PK is going add a fair bit more!
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January 8, 2015 at 1:02 PM
its a pattern with you that when you are unable to defend yourself you resort to such that again to educate you that mandrin was there much earlier even before yours
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January 8, 2015 at 1:07 PM
don’t waste your time putting up more comments. they’ll just be deleted.
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January 8, 2015 at 1:12 PM
Rockstar – I think you post links and content. Content are sometimes too overwhelming to go through for people who are interested in films only.
If there is a link and people who want to read your position will click on the link otherwise they will just leave it.
I use link to tell my position with some of my thoughts. If I post 5 different links consecutively, no one would read even your debater.
Satyam – I think instead of deleting, you may club the links together. Of course content could be deleted.
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January 8, 2015 at 1:15 PM
yes I could do that but Rockstar tends to be rather prolific sometimes.. he goes on a spree and keeps putting them up..! often then there are no links provided. but your idea is otherwise a fair one..
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January 8, 2015 at 1:21 PM
its simple you are unable to take counterview…..
if you start learning things will be easy instead of facing this embarrassment of deleting comments with silly excuses
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January 8, 2015 at 12:54 PM
PK Crosses 10 Million In North America In Nineteen Days
Thursday 08 January 2015 10.30 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
PK crossed the $10 million mark in US/Canada in nineteen days.it was the Hindi film to cross $10 million The US/Canada collections are as follows.
Week One – $6,160,429
Week Two – $2,998,871
Week Three – $875,000 (5 days)
Total – $10,034,300
The film will finish at around $10.75 million whch will be aroynd $2.75 million more than the previous record holder Dhoom 3..
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January 8, 2015 at 12:54 PM
PK Third Wednesday Business
Thursday 08 January 2015 11.00 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
PK has grossed 3.50 crore nett on its third Wednesday to take its lifetime total to nearly 319 crore nett. The third week collections is as follows.
Friday – 6,50,00,000
Saturday- 8,50,00,000
Sunday – 12,00,00,000
Monday – 4,25,00,000
Tuesday – 3,75,00,000
Wednesday – 3,50,00,000
Total – 38,50,00,000
The film will gross around 41.50 crore nett in week three breaking the 30.50 crore nett record of 3 Idiots for the third week.
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January 8, 2015 at 12:55 PM
It’s still so stable that 340 is of course a done deal but 350 is a real possibility.
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January 8, 2015 at 1:02 PM
Looks like BOI has forgotten that superlative book that was on speed dial during HNY. Or they are just “lost” for words. Of course funnily enough, Happy New Year’s total 3rd week collections up to Tuesday were less than PK’s 3rd week Friday business. But the commentary would not let you know.
Just changing the subject – to box office. LOL.
Happy New Year Heads For Fifth Highest Third Week Of 2014
Wednesday 11 November 2014 11.30 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
Happy New Year grossed around 75 lakhs nett on its fifth day of the third week with collections of 6.25-6.50 crore nett so far in week three. The overall total is around 174.75 crore nett.
The approx collections for the first five days of the third weekend are as follows
Friday – 1,00,00,000
Saturday – 1,70,00,000
Sunday – 2,15,00,000
Monday – 75,00,000
Tuesday – 75,00,000
TOTAL – 6,35,00,000
The third week will gross around 7.75 crore nett which is a reasonable third week figure and will be the fifth best third week collection of the year after Queen, Holiday – A Soldier Is Never Off Duty, 2 States and Kick.
Meanwhile for PK
PK At 35 Crore Nett For Third Week
Wednesday 07 January 2015 10.30 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
PK has grossed 3.75 crore nett om its third Tuesday to take its lifetime total to 312 crore nett plus. The third week collections is as follows.
Friday – 6,50,00,000
Saturday- 8,50,00,000
Sunday – 12,00,00,000
Monday – 4,25,00,000
Tuesday – 3,75,00,000
Total – 35,00,00,000
The third week will see the film doing its best business in Delhi/UP grossing around 10 crore nett which is less than 50% fall from last week. Mumbai circuit will see a 65% drop.
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January 8, 2015 at 1:10 PM
yeah absolutely. They go ‘orgasmic’ over every other film. Here it’s a ‘yeah it did 300’ tone! And not just them. The others are the same. Nahata said something about the 26 crore opening day being good for the subject, then disappeared for the longest time. finally showed up one day to say Aamir had started the 100, 200 and now 300 club and that those who disagreed with him when he said PK would be a blockbusters were ‘rats’ hiding from him (not making this up). They’ve all said a whole lot more with a lot of other 100-200 grossers.
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January 8, 2015 at 3:23 PM
BOI is feeling like they have been made to eat their own S#iT. Hence they are taking it like this. I dont understand why their sudden agenda of not acknowledging Aamir’s achievement and coming up with stupidity like real collections.
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January 8, 2015 at 12:57 PM
Rockstar, I let two of your comments through even after I said we should move on to other stuff but I’ve deleted all the other responses. Because I said it a second time too. You always tend to get carried away. 20 articles don’t have to be posted making more or less the same point. Specially when it’s not about films.
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January 8, 2015 at 2:02 PM
340-350 crore is an amazing total. It has been hugely accepted and it seems clear how far a fine, well-accepted film can do at the BO. Which also proves how less HNY, Kick etc did in comparison and how their success was bloated in the media whereas the fact is that almost all big budget films have never trended the way they should have.
Still I would say the impact of PK is less than the euphoria 3 idiots created in its time. That had a lot of repeat audience and the greatest mass hit since Gadar. Its success cannot be emulated easily, not even by PK
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January 8, 2015 at 3:22 PM
“Still I would say the impact of PK is less than the euphoria 3 idiots created in its time”
yhea because even though a hit, the numbers are bit fudged, seems like. Itna great movie bhi nahi hai yeh. I am mean not that much entertaining, latter half was actually very boring and drag to be honest. I saw it when it came out and I cannot remember 90% of it already! Where as his other movies stayed with me for some time at least.
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January 8, 2015 at 3:49 PM
Well if craps like HNY and Kick can make 200 plus and Aamir can have 250 plus with a crap like D3 a good movie with Aamir like PK can make 350 and a great movie like 3I would have done 400 plus today.
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January 8, 2015 at 3:59 PM
How do you know if HNY and Kick numbers were also not fudged a bit as well….
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January 8, 2015 at 4:17 PM
That way I wouldn’t know if Sholay ran for 5 years, if DDLJs/HAHKs success is real or many of the movies that have claimed to break the records ever broke them and was it all not fudged.I will believe what producers and trade tell on their sites.And there are so many of these nowdays that if one gets it wrong its easy to spot. Anyways in our country anyone can get questioned.
I will question only if there is logical reason like in Krrish 3 case where producer nos. and trade nos. are far off. I will question if a site claims some nos. and conviniently changes them months or years later. I won’t just blindly question anything. I know all stars especially Khans have no. of haters.Not goi g to believe if anything anyone claims out of the blue.
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January 8, 2015 at 4:34 PM
And if someone explains me with some logical explaination on how are the nos. getting fudged for all movies and how they are getting away with it and no one is reporting it I will put my attention to it. I may chose to believe it or not believe it depending on if I get convinced but I won’t mind listening to it. I am not going to just believe if x, y or z just says so.
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January 8, 2015 at 5:38 PM
Numbers fudged?
Kuchh bhi Bol dete hai log!
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January 8, 2015 at 7:05 PM
Satyam,
You have an utter stale argument which goes like this – “PK is vastly superior film than OMG (a film that I otherwise enjoyed) in every way..”
Throughout various discussions- I have provided examples, quotes from movies and their relative comparisons in their substance and how impacting they were. You on the other hand are just like that stuck up Rajiv Masand who before even watching PK had made up his mind that it’d be beyond comparing to a small “Disney” movie like OMG..Why ? because it has been by Lord Hirani and it stars Lord aamir himself..
This is utter snobbery and nothing else…in your own review of PK..you kept harping about Hirani…and his comparison with Hrishikesh Mukherjee,, how Aamir has done wonders to the character- never really stressing on the crux of the movie itself.
As I said before..this is nothing new but snobbery of highest order which is as good as saying, since I am paying 200 bucks for a dinner it HAS to be better than food served in a local deli ..why? Because the 200 dollars dinner has been prepared by some Masterchef winner and the local deli is some uncle John.
“Kabhi kisi se unka bhagwaan mat chheen na, warna woh tumhe hi apna bhagwaan bana lenge” – OMG
Find me a better line that that in PK.
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January 8, 2015 at 7:14 PM
Sorry to butt in, but Satyam’s stale response is to a stale argument put forth by you that OMG is classic and hence superior. Call it snobbery or respect, a Hirani and an aamir elicit that response because of their past work and record.
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January 8, 2015 at 7:23 PM
Sanjana,
I have nothing against Aamir or Hirani. I too enjoyed their work including PK., but unlike others I take each film on its merit rather than worshiping some sort of legacy (and be another congress supporter of Dynasty). If Hirani made a film that I’d have liked more than OMG (on the same topic), then I’d have gladly accepted it.
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January 8, 2015 at 7:30 PM
Aamir had a Talaash couple of years ago and the reaction to it was pretty mixed, while I still think that It was his best performance in a while by a distance. I can’t really decide Hirani’s best because Hirani has essentially made just two films until now and released the first story in 3 flavors (MBBS, LRMB, 3 Idiots) with the same exact ingredients , same bas bhi kar rulaega kya moments and same background of someone doing aaaaa in some emotional scenes with at least one wiping their happy tears.
Having said that I still think he has made extremely entertaining films. PK is the first time he did something different since his debut (although he did throw in his regular sahnis and happy tears but still the rest of it substantially different).. He is a very enjoyable filmmaker but he has extremely few things to say.
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January 8, 2015 at 8:24 PM
I think my piece on PK speaks for itself.. doubt anyone would agree with your characterizations but whatever!
On OMG I’ve seen all your examples. the problem is that you define these as profundity and I don’t. I revisited the film recently as well. There is nothing here beyond the obvious and that obvious isn’t particularly profound. I don’t have an issue with you liking OMG a lot or not liking PK much. That’s not what I’m arguing about. I just don’t see what there is in OMG that could be overrated so much.
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January 8, 2015 at 9:39 PM
First- there’s nothing such as overrated in OMG. The examples I gave are about the central theme in both movies and it clearly depicts why one is superior than other. Your piece is a fine one by it has more to do with Hirani and Aamir than the movie itself. You talk about hirani’s repertoire and Aamir’s skills rather than the movie itself… The latter half of your essay was more or less influenced by the current debate on PK in India rather than analysis of the movie elements itself.
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January 8, 2015 at 11:23 PM
Are bhai Paapas, OMG did not have Abhishek…so Satyam will not appreciate. You should have pitched in Guru or Bunty aur Bubbly and then had seen the response.
Ohh yes…if you had been Jayshah then also he would have agreed with following reply – “Your assessment is so purrrfect that there is nothing more one could add”
#BhakSaala
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January 8, 2015 at 10:38 PM
‘Is dunya ma do baghwan hain….ek joka hum sub ka banaya aur ek joka tum banaya’
Forget OMG….this is one of the best lines I have ever heard in any movie!
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January 8, 2015 at 11:23 PM
Cool….do u want better one liners?
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January 8, 2015 at 8:14 PM
No one cares what happens in poor country like nigeria? It is daily news from nigeria….100 or 200 mass killing…i can post daily fresh mss killing news from nigeria by Islamists.
http://www.ndtv.com/article/world/boko-haram-militants-kill-at-least-100-people-destroy-16-villages-in-nigeria-646112?curl=1420764476
@Satyam
Why only Paris massacre is in news? Can you not dare to create a series on Nigeria killing? Nigeria has become real hell on earth.
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January 9, 2015 at 1:07 AM
Re: “No one cares what happens in poor country like nigeria? It is daily news from nigeria….100 or 200 mass killing…i can post daily fresh mss killing news from nigeria by Islamists.”
This sort of debate — “why aren’t we talking about XYZ, and this shows a double standard” — could go on endlessly: Central African Republic, anyone? Myanmar?
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January 8, 2015 at 10:55 PM
Rajinikanth-starrer ‘Lingaa’ in trouble again; distributors and theatre owners complain of losses, demand money back
http://ibnlive.in.com/news/rajinikanthstarrer-lingaa-in-trouble-again-distributors-and-theatre-owners-complain-of-losses-demand-money-back/521877-71-174.html
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January 8, 2015 at 11:27 PM
Sad to see Lingaa’s fate but good for Rajni. Flops like this make the fans protect their star and i firmly believe that Lingaa has made more Rajni fans than Robot. Fans are always created on “Flop after successive hits and not by another Hit after successive hits”
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January 9, 2015 at 2:47 AM
http://www.rediff.com/movies/report/birthday-special-the-fabulous-life-of-farah-khan/20150109.htm
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