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Srk tweets first look of bajrangi bhaijaan
This is expected to open v big
Ps: Kabir khans ETT was the only Salman starrer I loved (barring dabang) –should be big –tho Ihave reservation about its politics
This is a v good poster utilising the current Salman frenzy.
The only reason I’m interested in is the sensibility of thr director
This is poised to be Salmans biggest hit ever (tho I don’t think I will like it more than ETT or dabang bit can’t rule it out)
Ps: y didint u ‘thank’ me ‘Satyam’ for posting this first look lol
Good look but the unique part about this movie is Salman Khan’s first home production(though he gave his name for Chillar Party as well). “Salman Khan presents…” might add value.
Looks like Salman Khan won’t be promoting the film much and that’s the reason formalities started with other Khans and I don’t think its necessary to promote this movie much. It’ll open as good or as bad with or without too much promotions.
I know that Salman is now cool with SRK and has been friends with Aamir for a while but I don’t like the idea of the first look being launched by your 2 biggest rivals. No matter what the equation is between them, they are still trying to beat each other’s numbers every time each of them come with a big movie!
Not to undermine Salman’s super stardom but its been actually lot of time since Salman broke any opening day or opening weekend record with his films. I think last was Dabangg and ETT, rest of them just did about good and only Kick passed 200crores in final total. This might do the trick but am not hopeful with the plot and title, doesn’t look regular Salman film. Also, Kareena is passe now.
“If Aamir could pull off PK with weird looking Anushka, why not Salman with a Kareena or even Karishma?”
Weird looking? Lol.
Btw, its not my personal choice but the kind of fan following Salman has in massy centers. Everyone hated that Jai Ho girl and it shows in the opening and the fans are more of the kind who prefer Jacqueline dancing in short skirt (Kick) over a more talented but married Kareena or Karisma.
that’s true.. not sure what Dabanng’s weekend was but in its first week it simply matched 3I (obviously fantastic but no records were broken here). Then it ended up with trending behind Ghajini’s let alone 3I’s. And this was surprising given how iconic Dabanng became. Having said that there’s an explanation. I personally though Dabanng was watchable but a trailer of a film. Not much of a narrative to it. Ultimately you need a narrative that truly means something for films to trend well (in any genre). Even with so many iconic moments in Dabanng it still fell short of Ghajini in absolute terms (on trending). The rest of his films needn’t even be discussed on these grounds. But yes ETT was the one film of his that was ahead of the curve at the time in terms of box office pace for a week or so. Everything else though huge is not in that league. I wouldn’t be surprised at all though if Bajrangi.. did way better than expected on the initial with the recent court case and so on.
This is a decent first look. But will comment more once the first teaser comes out. Kabir Khan got in to the big bracket with the ETT and now he has to follow it up. Big Push by Aamir and SRK. I am guessing lot has to do with support by other khans to Salman due to his recent outing in the court.
All these Khan wars were made to keep themselves in news. True colors are coming now when the cat got wet.
It’s a shame that they are supporting a convict. Agreed that High court has put a stay, but Salman has lost his goodwill in non-fans lickers like me.
I will boycott this film in protest against his crime. I like him, but will not support him.
But seriously, because i followed his case closely, i was sad when he got convicted and hated him when he got his conviction stayed. Just wished he should have at least gone to jail. It was his money power and political clout on display.
He is not different from jayalalitha…maybe worse…atleast she did not drive over poor muslim people.
Doesn’t makes sense. What money power? Session court is never the final decision. Everyone can appeal to higher courts and even now if High Court gives him sentence, he’ll appeal for Supreme Court. Only then there is a possibility of going to jail. Even if he had went to jail directly from Sessions court, it would have been only for couple of days before he’s out on bail.
“He is not different from jayalalitha…maybe worse…atleast she did not drive over poor muslim people.” What about the Delhi cop who drove over three poor Hindu people? At least Salman is as good as him?
In life a very simple rule ought to be remembered.. nothing and no one is like Bachchan. Forget him Salman cannot even outgross Aamir. He’s not even close so far to the highest grosses. To be Bachchanesque you must outgross the competition by a mile. Forget Aamir his final grosses are still only what SRK gets on a good day with Shetty. Nor are his initials trend setting either barring ETT. Yes he’s a mass star no doubt but every mass star isn’t Bachchan. Of course the ambition of fans is often tied up with a lack of reality and/or a poor understanding of history. That’s a different matter. Salman is really a contemporary Southern mass star in Bombay.
You don’t know how much the biggest films today gross? Or what the biggest initial record-holders are?
actually his films are almost always junk efforts.. some are somewhat better and do better. But the idea that he’s sometimes let down by bad scripts is a contradiction in terms. he thrives on them. Dabanng through the present how many good scripts has he done? And of course there have been a number of remakes too. I do think that a better script would trend much better with him. But look at what he does — nothing films for the most part where the only question is whether they’re mildly entertaining or not. That’s however his calling card. And this is what the trajectory of a contemporary Southern star usually is. Big bang initials with poor or half-decent follow-throughs. They still get proper hits from time to time because some of their best talents also make masala unlike Bollywood where no significantly talented director has any connection with this genre. So it’s not all Salman’s fault but nonetheless the point stands — he’s going to be united with the good script only accidentally. And without this the final gross will always be limited relative to what’s possible. The highest grossing Salman film is probably 40 crores or so behind D3 and 100 or so behind PK. Dabanng opened like 3I (though not at the same time) and fell way short of even Ghajini trending. He’s a mass star who’s exciting the box office without doubt and his run since Dabanng has been quite incredible. But he hasn’t beaten his biggest contemporaries yet.
of course mass stars get more attention but I’d also continue to make the case for Aamir. If one looks at his more commercial stuff Ghajini, 3I, PK, D3 all had massive starts. But even his other stuff gets the best possible start relative to genre. consider Talaash, a film that didn’t trend well. Because of the initial it was not that much behind a Salman Khan failure in Jai Ho which was of course an out and out commercial film. It’s true that Salman is loved the way Aamir isn’t. Nonetheless this matters little at the box office.
“Umm he tried something called ‘script’ with Revathy in PHIR MILENGE. In his own words, even a ‘kutta’ didn’t come to watch the movie.”
I would agree with you in part but Revathy is a poor example since she hasn’t done much elsewhere to count. The hindi saying ‘akela chana bhad nahi phod sakta’ applies to Salman because he is basically a ‘akela chana’ in a movie and that’s why most of his movies fizzle out after opening though lucky for him they taper off at the higher end. I suspect the same is going to happen with BB too as Kabir essentially is a documentary maker and more interested in furthering Salman’s ‘Bhaijaan’ persona than bring in the required twist to the tale or get him to move his facial muscles. Somewhere this is testing audience goodwill and can be flushed away if one doesn’t do something more than just delivering their dialogues flat. Looking at Salman resume the main grouse seems to be except for a Bhansali or Barjatya to count a few, there is hardly anyone who made a movie for their own aesthetics/values but most simply banking on his stardom to bail out.
What my point earlier was, for sake of enhancing your skills and reach, one needs to collaborate with the best in the business from time to time if not always. They have their own brilliance to prove and the end result comes out much finer. Even an Aamir needs a Hirani to be able to do 3Idiots and PK. I am not saying one has to strive and work only with a Hirani or a Gwarikar to be taken seriously but at least within genre attempted, try to tie with the best instead of wasting away with a Atul Agnihotri or Sajid Nadidwala. In the past SRK too has been guilty of declining a Hirani’s 3I or Shankar’s Robot but they were more of a business decision where he wanted them to jump ship and work for Red Chillies. But in current state, look what he has done to reach out to Rohit Shetty and essentially transported a committed / devoted / trusty Devgn man – so called srk’s bête noire. It’s another matter collaborating with SRK has worked to Rohit’s advantage too and suddenly be counted among bigwigs. So it works both ways unlike Salman who is whole and sole of the project he does.
On the acting part all I will say movies are still a director’s medium and good directors will mold even wooden actors to their strength and we have seen that happening so often with so many actors-directors in the past in hindi movies.
But there’s an essential contradiction in your argument. Let me translate your argument in Hollywood terms. Vin Diesel is ‘whole and sole’ of every project he does while DeNiro and Scorsese is more of a ‘mutually beneficial’ thing. Or today DeCaprio works with Eastwood and Nolan and Scorsese and so on. There are scores of important actors who work with equally important directors. This lessens neither. The question that must be asked is: why aren’t Salman or Vin Diesel ever considered for important ‘acting’ parts at any stage of their careers? This applies especially to Salman who’s been around for a quarter of a century. SRK has worked with interesting directors at different points (Ratnam, Gowariker etc), Aamir’s record speaks for itself. Why doesn’t Salman have something similar? Or anything remotely close? If cinema is only a director’s medium why don’t other stars appear with the same regularity in certain kinds of prestige films? No matter how successful Akshay was there was a certain kind of part he never landed. Saif never as successful nonetheless had some prestige roles at points (Omkara or Eklavya and so on). In other words evidently the directors in question don’t think that just about anyone is ok! Great directors can make effective use of ‘alright’ actors but they’re not going to give truly significant acting parts to just any actor. In fact if anything and all else being equal (and assuming they’re backs are not up against the wall where they are forced to do certain things) they will favor the actor who is some sort of star versus the biggest star who’s not enough of an actor.
But here there’s another essential misunderstanding of actors and stars. The star’s image or the strength genres which allow him to prosper are not ‘incidental’. They define everything about the star. If Salman tried to do something half serious the audience would totally reject it. Why? Because he is not ‘about’ being an actor in that traditional sense. He is about playing a certain type and being an effective star precisely because he represents that type better than anyone else in his industry at the moment (we need not get into the reasons here). Similarly if Vin Diesel is great at a certain kind of action and representing a certain kind of ‘blue collar guy’ this doesn’t mean that this stardom of his could then be employed in a Scorsese film. It doesn’t work like that. You cannot divorce the star signature from the ‘actor’. they go together. The actors who are not stars are a different matter. This is why and specially in all the partisan debates online people completely confuse this stuff. A star who fails at the box office, even in very important ways, is precisely that — a star who has failed. He might or might not become successful once more but he can never cease being a star. He cannot suddenly become ‘simply’ an actor. He can reinvent himself in a different way. But he has to remain a star either way. Salman whether in the MPK phase or his Dhawan one or his current masala one is a star either way. When he had completely faded for years he was still a star, just not a successful one. It’s therefore a fantasy to think these things can be separated. That with a good director Salman would suddenly become an actor while Aamir somehow ‘needs’ a good director or whatever.
Finally it’s equally bizarre (though this kind of absurdity is regularly implied in these matters) that somehow credit ought to be taken away from someone like Aamir for working with topnotch directors while someone like Salman gets more credit for doing nothing films. Again that’s like saying Vin Diesel gets more credit than DiCaprio! That’s patently ridiculous. Because once more Salman wouldn’t work as well if at all in 99% of Aamir’s films. The reverse is true also but the cinema is not comparable. One kind requires a bona fide star to play a type (Vin Diesel), another kind requires the star but also a genuine performance. Otherwise the film doesn’t work.
At the end of the day the problem is really the overzealous fan (!) who no matter how successful the star always wants to ‘overreach’. And as a result get to conclusions that ought to be self-evidently absurd. Someone shouldn’t have to argue all of this as I just have!
‘At the end of the day the problem is really the overzealous fan (!) who no matter how successful the star always wants to ‘overreach’. And as a result get to conclusions that ought to be self-evidently absurd.’
Well your Hollywood exemplification with Vin Diesel may seem reasonable on paper for the sake of argument but imo bollywood functioning on this issue is completely different and we have been reasonably surprised by our original desi Vin Diesel suddenly churning out a Ghayal and a Damini in succession without notice. Now I may not have been very precise with thoughts above but Salman can come up with these masala ventures in a more logical and conclusive screenplays. Within the chosen genre itself there are enough ingredients which can make the masala more palatable is what I am hinting at. It’s like having your cake and eating it too.
Now I can equate to what you are saying to Big B (would be sacrilege to mention Bachchan in same sentence as Salman on this blog) went through in the late 70s / early 80s where a Silsila, Jurmana or a Bemisal would not get the required results as public was simply interested in a Coolie, AAA and Lawaris. Hell even a brief diversion of internalization of character in Kala Pathar was not taken by masses ‘at that time’. Please keep in mind I am not comparing actors / acting but demand of paying public at that point of time in history.
My point is whatever the genre at least work with the people thoroughly invested in what they are doing rather than itsy and bitsy directors like Nadiadwala and Kabir who are finding difficulty to release their other product ‘Phantom’ with another actor for good one year since completion. This is inspite of having a Katrina at helm of affairs.
Aamir may not need a Hirani but he benefits by choosing Hirani who is not only equally dedicated but utilizes his time in polishing his product and excellence rather than churning out movies by the bunch and minting money. Take a listen to that Companion video link of Anupama Chopra few months back where Hirani and Abhijaat discuss how much time was invested in writing to draw out each scene and each sequence to get the desired result.
Due to money rush, most actors in India like Aamir, Salman are known to multitask doing TV shows, ads, stage shows, and performances and if they are acting in between, the least they need to do is choose people who have spent decent amount of research/ legwork and who put their name out there with the product.
MsDhoni: I’m not sure if you’re sincere with these arguments or you make them up as you go along. let’s forget Bachchan for a moment . I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you don’t know what you’re talking about. Either way this claim is too ridiculous to even be addressed. Anyone who knows even a little bit about Bachchan’s career and the work he’s done should be able to understand what I;m saying. Putting him in the same sentence with Salman isn’t just sacrilegious, it’s frankly stupid. I choose my words with care. Sometimes a thing must be called by its proper name. And ripping out an example from here or there without context (kaala pathar or Bemisaal or whatever doesn’t help.. for the record I could debate Kaala Pathar at very many levels, i.e. in terms of the box office and Bachchan’s role relative to other parts of his but I consider this such a silly exercise that I’m not going to get into it.. might have done so once but not at this point!).
However I’ll use the Aamir example because it’s a more contemporary one. Again I don’t know whether you’re just pretending not to notice this or if you think the rest of us will be too dumb to notice. Aamir had a great deal of success doing different or meaningful roles and/or films earlier as well. And specially with his Lagaan reinvention he’s done this more often than not. However there are films like MP or Talaash which didn’t quite work (of course even on these I don’t accept the ‘official’ narratives because these films have trending ratios not too dissimilar from those that are considered hits in much more commercial genres and with all the right stars and so on..). And then Ghajini or 3I were successful. This doesn’t mean that Aamir is Salman where certain genres work. Because he has a track record of doing well in all kinds of genres. Secondly even within the most commercial genres a star can have an author-backed part. Dilip Kumar was doing commercial films that often required a serious actor, Dev Anand on the other hand was doing those that mostly did not. Any commercial is always helped by a good actor but this is not a necessary requirement for some roles. For others it is. Salman in any case just doesn’t have those roles. Even if one took your Aamir or Bachchan analogy seriously where are these parts in Salman’s career?
And again your absolutely bizarre, absolutely absurd (again I choose my words with care) claim is that from from Sholay to Satyajit Ray, Nolan to Scorsese to whatever prestige name one can think of in commercial or art house cinema somehow one must take points away from them for being who they are making the films that they do. I might be the crazy one here for even bothering to argue with you but I say this in all seriousness and sincerity that you really need to get out of this brand of Salman-worship where you’re willing to distort ‘reality’ just to accommodate what you also know are his ‘weaknesses’ (if there weren’t these why would you need such a set of defenses… the guy who claims DiCaprio is a good actor doesn’t need to prove the point.. the one who says the same for Vin Diesel probably does!)? It’s not just here but in comment after comment you come up with claims simply meant to inoculate Salman. Again one is free to be in love with one’s favorite star but to really have such a distorted sense of reality is frankly sad. But again I’ve been foolish to argue with you more than once when it comes to these matters. If you honestly belief everything that you’re saying I’d call it a psychological condition. Once more I am not trying to insult you, I am choosing my words with great care.
I don’t know if I will respond to this but there is some serious disconnect to what we are trying to recognize here so let me end this with a quote I read somewhere in my defense that truth is indeed stranger than fiction. In fiction, when you paint yourself into a corner, you can write a pair of suction cups onto the bottoms of your shoes and walk up the wall and out the skylight and see the sun breaking through the clouds. In nonfiction, you don’t have that luxury.
Reading your last few comments wish to further reiterate, what you have been trying to do here is rob Salman of any kind historical significance in Bollywood history and treat him as some kind of abnormality in super-stardom which just happened to be.
I refuse to accept his super-stardom as some kind of aberration and want to give it a definite structure which has lasted for a good number of years and has some depth and value and will continue for at-least a few years more depending the outcome of his legal issues. Also not only his persona but his filmy inning has to be refuted wrt to present state of Hindi film industry and what is being churned out of bollywood factory in the last 25 years among his contemporaries and not 40 years back where terms of the debate were absolutely different not only in reach but avenues available to have that kind of super-stardom.
So its between Bajrangi Bhaijaan and Dilwale for this years crown of the highest grosser. I can safely say Dilwale will be big in the overseas thanks to some nostalgia. But it would depend on what Rohit Shetty has made. The target is essentially the 300 plus and go after PK.
counting chickens before the eggs are hatched,maybe dilwale gets beat by decent margin,saving grace will be kajol & srk jodi which looks pale and outdated to me…if the concept is good the film will do well,if its bad not even srk cannot save it otherwise films like swadesh & paheli would have been block-busters but they were whimps,now days only comcept of the films will do well and not who is in it…got my point
“ Bahubali” Rajamoili on his favourite directors Raju Hirani and Anurag Kashyap.
He ( Karan Johar) says we ( Mumbai) can’t make films like what I am doing. I can’t make even one scene what Raju Hirani does. He does a much much greater job than what I do. Because that kind of subtle writing, subtle emotions, and hitting you so hard…I have strong emotions and I may hot hard, but he has very subtle emotions and he slaps you across your face. That for me is a far greater technique than what I have.
On a contrasting note, there is Anurag Kashyap, one of my favourite directors. The way he plays with the narrative, the way he puts characters I them, is exceptionally good.
I think every film industry has great directors, great writers and very bad writers, very bad directors and very bad films. It’s the same with Hindi, Telugu, Tamil, whatever.
Is Kareena Kapoor Khan going to be billed a guest in Bajrangi Bhaijaan?
Is Kareena Kapoor Khan getting insecure about her career? Is she willing to take on any and every part that comes her way, provided the role is opposite a hot-and-happening superstar? Sources close to the Eid blockbuster Bajrangi Bhaijaan claim Kareena has a negligible part in the film.
Says a member of the film’s core team, “The actual leading lady of Bajrangi Bhaijaan is the little girl Harshaali Malhotra. Bebo is not there for more than 10-15 minutes. The core drama of the film is about Salman’s character and the little girl who journey together from India to Pakistan. If there is a third character who is important, it is Nawazuddin Siddiqui who accompanies Salman and the girl.”
Apparently, Kareena’s role is brief enough to qualify as a “guest appearance” in Bajrangi Bhaijaan. However, Amar Butala COO of Salman Khan Films negates the same saying, “Kareena Kapoor has a very strong role in Bajrangi Bhaijaan and she is integral to the plot of the film. In fact Kabir wanted a strong actress for the character of Rasika, and Kareena is perfect for it. Bajrangi Bhaijaan will remind people of the chemistry Salman and Kareena shared in Bodyguard. In the coming week a new song featuring Salman and Kareena will also be out and will be treat for her fans.”
Post-marriage Kareena Kapoor Khan has been doing skimpy roles quite regularly opposite A-lister superstars. In Satyagraha she had a brief role opposite Ajay Devgn. In the recent Gabbar Is Back she did a walk-on part with Akshay Kumar. Prior to that she did blink-and-you-miss role with her real-life partner Saif in Happy Ending.