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Dilwale Second Day Business
Sunday 20 December 2015 12.30 IST
Dilwale fell a little on Saturday as collections went down in single screen circuits and the circuits it opened well barring Mysore which managed to gain . The business of Dilwale over the first two days is as follows.
Bajirao Mastani Second Day Business
Sunday 20 December 2015 13.30 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
Bajirao Mastani showd gains of around 22% on day two which is decent though gains really had to be more. The business of Bajirao Mastaani over the first two days is as follows.
The film is good in Maharashtra where the film has caught up with Dilwale and even surpassed in some cities but the rest of the country is still lagging. Bihar, West Bengal, Assam and Orissa are very low..
2) I was quite excited for the movie, but the same wears off in the opening 20 minutes when you get to see fake romance of varun-kirti.
3) By the time of the interval, I felt I could have walked out, weak first half. But I thought at that point that may be I alone was not liking it, but it happened that many people were heard saying the film is boring during interval.
4) Gerua looks awesome on screen.
5) The problem with the film is it that it combines comedy and drama, and the hence the latter comes across as fake or unbelievable. I say audience often makes the leap, but it has to be believable, one needs to feel for character. But I couldn’t!
6) Kaali the name is lame. Pathetic! The fact that the two families meet and there is no security arrangement! The fact that Kaali and Meera who are so smart don’t want protection for either of their families! Vinod Chopra doubts Kabir Bedi shall agree, but still walks into his mansion like a lamb!
7) The Drama never picks up, but the second half is a release and bearable and hence I could continue with the film. The characters other than leads are half baked and not developed properly.
8) The movie takes so many inspirations : Hum, Mission Impossible 2, DDLJ, Fast and Furious, K3G, How I met your mother etc…
9) Seriously Kajol what were you thinking, you came back for this?
10) The music in action sequences and important occasions ( like the meeting of the two families) is copied/inspired from Con Air.
11) All through the movie there is build up of the scene when Kaali is made known to everyone else other than kajol and his henchman, but the scene is such a downer in the climax. It had to be serious, it can’t be the funny guy Boman. And if Boman is shooting at SRK, I expected Kajol (Meera) to shoot or do something like that, rather than taking the shot. And ok, she takes the shot more drama, than Kaali should kill or do something real bad to Boman. So it all leads to that the Varun-Kirti never know the flashback! Such a downer!
12) Loved Janam Janam!
13) The movie shall do average business, might wrap around 100-140 crores.
14) It is the drama, where one feels let down, and the unoriginal sequences between Kajol and SRK. The ending with a DDLJ dialogue! Such a pain! I believe the same story with a better director who can handle drama could have been sure shot fire! But Rohit fails to handle it properly, the fact is one needs a proper villain for such a film, people have died in the past, and more importantly SRK loses a father and one fails to see his pain for the same. Vinod Khanna is killed for no wrong of his own, but for bitterness of Kabir Bedi. It’s like priyanka chopra forgetting in DON Sequel that DON killed her brother! It’s like chennai express which made you emotionally feel for the leads, which I failed to feel here.
Rooney,
1)Masala film is seen differently by each one, some like something, that’s why you cant predict how others liked.
2) Masala genre has so much going on, and i think Shetty tried to put everything with more of drama contrary to his strength and obviously jokes falls flat here. Here, problem is everything is not in right proportion and doesn’t blend well.
3) 100- 140 cr is low number but upper range around would be 150 cr possible going by the feedback.
4) Where is your Bajirao Mastani review ? This deserves to be watched with family, it is U rated and contrary to its genre it has so much going on that one time watch is not enough.
5) while watching BM for first time, i missed so many details and meaning of expression and dialogue. I was so captivated by scale and imagination.
6) It never slows down, its editing is sharp and to the point without stretching any scene and without being melodramatic. Though, some portions in second half feels repetitive making not so entertaining second half. But, First 30 minutes itself are worth 2 ticket price.
7) BM makes you feel like you are watching something epic, during ”Mohe Rang do Laal”song and many scenes between leads, it feels nothing less than Mugle Azam.
1) I believe a great masala movie is liked by one and all but for exceptions.
2) I don’t believe this was masala, if this is masala, it’s an insult to masala. This Rohit Shetty spectacularly failing at Drama!
3) Agreed everything is not in right proportion. I also believe the sequence of events is also bad. They should have left something for the second half.
4) Let’s see how it goes, I see it failing and that too badly. But I am not BO expert 🙂 So don’t knw!
5) Will see BM next week! Myself and mom like Kajol a lot… so went for her!
Didn’t like the drama part much. The humor in the movie was nice and the trailer doesn’t do justice to it. All the sequences in the movie looks nice and flows properly that were shown in trailer.
Good to see Lever after long time.
Movie is not as bad as how some here tries to portrays it. It’s not like Bollywood is dishing out Moghul E Azam every Friday.
My wife liked it a lot but I wouldn’t go see it again. But than again, I don’t see any movies in theatre twice.
Just about everybody in the theatre seem to enjoy it and laughed thru out the movie so not sure how it will do but I think the movie will take a heavy fall on Monday.
Today D has finally opened in every singe centre. It should touch 25 cr today based on night shows. It is behaving like a single screen movie. Sundays are better than Friday and Saturday lesser than Friday. Monday will get a clearer picture where it is headed. Purely from economics point of view BM needs 130 to 140 rc to be a clean hit and D needs around 125 to be a clean hit. But as I said with HNY the movie will be a disappointment at those totals. But at the moment I don’t see both movies doing much more than 100 to 130 range. BM is a disaster at every single screen. It is doing good in plexes but not sure how much far that will take it. D is doing well in single screens but not up to the mark in the multiplexes of Maharashtra where BM is doing very well. Next week if the single screens of Delhi and Rajasthan decide to screen D there is slight hope for the movie. But at the moment all this is clutching at straws. What’s clear is that the WOM of movie is not great and we are not going to see any big totals here.
“It should touch 25 cr today based on night shows”
No way, I think it’ll be lucky if it gets to 19 crore today.
BM will close the gap even more today or might even over take it if the trend continues.
We’ll get clear picture on Monday. a lot of time media plays a role in what we end up believing based on what they keep blasting us with in the name of news. Ground reality could be very different but since I’m not in india, I can’t tell.
Based on some news and the crap raghav kept on spamming this blog with, I surly thought that BM would have collected more than dilwale on day two. Heck he was even making a case for it on Firday itself.
Dilwale is what they say a perfect rollercoaster ride but somehow all in my group were able to land safely and came out with positive emotions.
The apologetic ending scene with bade bade deshon mein aisee chotee chotee baatei…… as if the srk-kajol combo were asking the audience to overlook the shortcomings and hinting at ‘times have changed’ and we can’t give you guys a DDLJ again.
Personally hated it to loved it to hated again to loved it at the end ……..wanted to tell Rohit single brilliant sequences can be a complete cinematic experience and presented as a motion picture.
It somewhat hinted at your scheming to make quick bucks looking at srk’s empty date diary and Christmas spot left vacant by the big shots.
Kajol walking in that confrontation scene with a gun in the middle of the movie was itself a paisa vasool moment for me. It restored my earlier belief demonic / fractious portrayals still seem hotter on screen. She was simply brilliant at many places and acting wise up there with the best of the best. Simply loved her though SRK needs to be told man get over that impish /giddy faces you make. You are 50 years old …….but that bloody distressed face when lying upside down in the car waiting to be shot was Baazigar..’isque which until today none have it in them to come close to…
My brief take –
Went with low expectations but was pleasantly surprised by Dilwale. Yes one should not look at the story with a microscope coz it wouldn’t then make sense but having said that there is not a single dull moment in the movie. Not once did i get bored in the movie. Kajol has some amazing screen presence and her acting is as always superb. SRK is his usual self , brilliant at times but like always tends to border on overacting. Varun Dhawan and Kriti Sanon both make up the young brigade and Varun should just take that spot getting vacant by Salman doing inane stuff while still looking good. He seemed very much at ease. Kriti Sanon represents the new upscale/ elegant looks possibly a result of cross breeding among baby boomers. The SRK-Kajol chemistry is great as usual. Kajol fans will love the sequences which she pulls of with aplomb. The only person wasted in the movie is Boman Irani and should have been given a better role to justify his talent. Overall Dilwale is surely a one time watch as holiday viewing.
I had the theater packed full at my end. Box office wise the movie is likely to settle down once the expectations come down and some of the hostile / ‘intolerance’ malicious intent take a back seat.
The apologetic ending scene with bade bade deshon mein aisee chotee chotee baatei…… as if the srk-kajol combo were asking the audience to overlook the shortcomings and hinting at ‘times have changed’ and we can’t give you guys a DDLJ again.
To say that overlook the shortcomings, is like saying there were very few. I did say the entire movie is a shortcoming.
Agreed on the SRK’s giddy faces! It was funny… seeing an oldie trying the same!! But then may be it’s for die hard SRK-Kajol fans.
Kajol was good in that one sequence of badass, but rest of the character graph doesn’t match! Like the first sequence of betrayal shows bravado, intelligence, cunningness and shrewdness, which isn’t there on display anywhere else! Like when drug villains turn up at her cafe, Boman beating Varun, Taking shot for SRK! I did have loved to see the real Meera Badass after 15 years like Kaali! But well if that was Kaali’s final sequence after 15 years that is beating a few goons and then leaving a gun holding villain to shoot… good that they didn’t show the real meera!
One doesn’t look at it from microscopic level I believe if the film engages! Happy it got u hooked… I failed in that regard to buy it… or rather to feel for it! I found the track of Varun and Kirti half baked and quite dull.
Thanx for your views though, as it’s good to know other views!
Komal Nahta @KomalNahta 3h3 hours ago
Sunday is a bountiful day for #Dilwale . Film has finally opened at every centre today & collections r very good; superb at new centres
Komal Nahta @KomalNahta 7h7 hours ago
Enjoyed watching this parody. Take a look:
This Dilwale Parody is Brutal…But Then So is SRK’s rebuttal!
“this parody seems to be making fun of all things King Khan until he himself appears in the video and proceeds to give it back to the channel in the witty manner only he can! Shah Rukh is a true sport, what say?”
I am not surprised seeing srk in it. He doesnt care for originality. His focus is all on money whatever the way it comes. But his fans try to project him as beacon of good cinema while he has nothing to do with cinema leave aside good one. He is pure businessman.
This theater is the barometer for BOI where they post occupancy before 12:00 pm shows on first day.
Can they do it on Monday ?
BM is almost sold out before 12 pm show and all the shows after that are also 50% booked, Dilwale booking almost non existent barring one morning show where it is booked 30-40% and night shows are also no booking. 😦 http://in.bookmyshow.com/buytickets/spice-cinemas-noida/cinema-ncr-PVSP-MT/20151221
Kajol too joined Salman and SRK to kick in nostalgia and a revisit to Kuch Kuch Hota Hai.
somewhere else a smart tete a tete on social media-
During a fan interaction on his social media, Shah Rukh Khan stated that there was no specific formula to be an actor and that one learns acting till one dies.
Talking to his fans on his social media, the actor was asked by someone when will he learn acting to which the witty superstar replied – “You never learn acting till you die. It’s not multiples and formulae.”
Furthermore he added, “As an actor or star, I like doing all kind of genres.”
When asked by a fan as to why his lectures at various prestigious institutes across the world including University of Edinburgh don’t seem to conform to the standards of excellence in his films, the actor said, “My lectures are to motivate, my films are for entertainment. The mix of the two happens seldom.”
Shah Rukh’s latest release Dilwale released this Friday to big numbers on the box office. The film has been directed by Rohit Shetty and also stars Kajol, Varun Dhawan and Kriti Sanon.
Taran Adarsh @taraadarsh
#Dilwale biz zooms upwards today… Most centres have opened… Family audience pouring in large numbers… ₹ 65 cr +/- weekend expected.
This is like the competition argument. Lots of solos underperform but when there is competition you can use it to excuse everything. It’s entirely possible that Dilwale didn’t interest too many people (like CE). And/or WOM is much worse than we think. The problem with the latter explanation is that many films that otherwise tank still have huge numbers for some days. Here that’s not the case. Even accounting for competition. Yes BM is hurting it for sure because people have an option. But I think a film with a very strong start would have put up better numbers for a while. The trailers never excited people. We’ve had some of those debates here. I thought they were like other Shetty films but many didn’t agree. Ultimately one still gave Shetty the benefit of the doubt for obvious reasons. The one point I did think was worth making was that in mixing this whole nostalgia track with his usual masala Shetty was doing something different (Qalandar brought this up at one point). This wasn’t the case with CE. Similarly relying on that nostalgia was fine for SRK except that that’s also a much older audience by this point. For a younger multiplex demographic DDLJ is somewhat ancient. Maybe there wasn’t enough here to attract them otherwise. CE after all had Deepika too. She was going through a peak then. Some of us pointed this out at the time. When a film is a hit if fans make it only about one star it’s not surprising that they learn the wrong lessons. I ultimately don’t know where this film will end up. If it doesn’t do more than 140-150 which seems to be the case currently this is a huge disappointment any way one looks at it. If it does even less than that you’re just looking at a failure. My only point either way is that competition and protests aren’t responsible for everything. Nor are his statements. If that were the case why did even this many people show up?! I’ll again bring up the PK example. The reasons aren’t important here but that film opened to 26 crore. Had it opened this way with competition everyone would have used this as a reason.
Indiacine.com @Indiacine
Bad News: #Dilwale shows cancelled in Mangalore. PVR Multiplex cancels all shows for weekdays. Other plexes have stopped advance booking.
“I think the incidents were sporadic than wide. The major centres were not affected.”
Yes that’s why it is 20+cr average and not 10 crores but today’s Mysore incidents which is major territory and one of the only areas where Dilwale showed growth on Saturday. But on Sunday, it went down. PVR has stopped Dilwale screenings for the rest of the week from its cinemas.
@Indiacine
#Dilwale: In Mangalore, the Sunday collections we received were lower than Friday and Saturday. Reason: Shows were cancelled. Protests
“that’s not the difference between a 200 crore film and a 150 crore one!”
Yes.. but Dilwale doing 150 crs will be greater achievement than HNY or PRDP doing 200 crores if you understand the overall competition and issues. Folks will easily forget everything and then simply remember that SRK-Rohit Shetty movie did only 150 crores but its not that it has more negative WOM than HNY or PRDP it is just it released on lesser screens and had another release. They did same thing with JTHT calling it just 120 crore odd total which was actually not bad compared to its opening and trending.
I personally don’t think HNY did more than 175 and some sources still have that number. But leaving this aside and even accepting the 200 crore thing I think the fairest thing one can say if Dilwale does 150 is that it has performed more or less like HNY. In other words a solo Dilwale might have done 175 or something. I will agree though that at 150 Dilwale all things considered might be a more liked film than HNY at 175 or even 200. Not sure about PRDP. This film did very poorly too but I think it was liked somewhat in Western India. Of course that 150 isn’t in the bank yet. I think there’s a fair chance at this point that Dilwale won’t do more than 120 or 130. I would think that 150 is really the best case scenario at this point. The rest of the stuff (its a hit at 120.. even assuming one buys this.. or that it was liked more than HNY) is to be honest a very poor consolation prize. SRK did Dilwale for one and one reason only, to have something bigger than CE!
I will however point this out. every big SRK film after OSO has either not opened stratospherically or if it has it has collapsed later. There are only two exceptions. CE opened hugely and trended well enough. RNBDJ opened well but was a pale shadow of Ghajini. However it trended very well. Ra One collapsed after a huge start. Don 1 & 2 were lethargic to begin. Competition was used as an excuse for the first one but the latter even with a solo release on Christmas was still slow throughout (didn’t do too badly but trailed the first one all things considered). JTHJ was again lethargic. HNY more or less fizzled out after one huge day and a few other big ones. One doesn’t need to get into MNIK. There is simply no doubt that he’s behind Aamir or Salman (for those who might have had it so far). The initials flatter to deceive beyond a point. You have a certain stardom, you have a history, then you also appear in the right kinds of films, you can land the right initials. But if you keep failing to excite genuine audience interest even when the films work (I said it with CE, the film doesn’t help SRK the star except as a pure box office matter) at some point it catches up. And here the whole SRK-Kajol pitch clearly didn’t excite enough people. Would a better film have worked? Sure! No one’s denying this. And I’m fair about this stuff. I think the whole DDLJ angle has probably been excessive here and made for an uneven film. Otherwise I doubt it’s that bad. But if one is only going to make it about SRK before release one cannot change the terms of the debate later. I do think he made a mistake here. He should just have left himself in Shetty’s hands. He shouldn’t have done the whole DDLJ deal, he should have forgotten about Kajol. Just a repeat of CE would have been good enough here. The problem (and this has always been SRK’s weakness) is that he’s always been far too cynical about this stuff in the sense that he’s always considered a big film to be just one big advertising campaign. Yes that’s part of the game but to reach the highest peaks the films still have to be genuine. Yes Shetty makes lowbrow stuff but there’s a rhythm to those films. If they were that easy everyone would have his record. Even Salman who’s clearly at his peak and gets big numbers for every film cannot trend that way for most of his films because they are ultimately junk efforts. So no matter who you are relatively quality means something, even if it’s a lowbrow genre. SRK does believe in some of the lesser stuff he does but here he doesn’t quite have Aamir’s mind. On the other hand with the commercial stuff it’s only about marketing for him. So in a way he falls between Salman and Aamir. if you’re that way you need directors who can fix those problems. We talk about all kinds of stars here but hasn’t SRK’s career been incredibly poor for 10-12 years now given the choices he’s made? It cannot be said that Salman could do better films. He’s that kind of star. Aamir need not even be mentioned. But couldn’t SRK have had a better mix? At least after the OSO/CDI double. A lot of his problems are self-created. He has enough of a base and could have been really up there with those other two but he hasn’t for quite sometime and this latest film just underlines it. Failing in any way with Shetty is much more damning than failing elsewhere. He now has HNY and this back to back. Who approves a film like HNY? Shouldn’t SRK have known better?
It’s ridiculous to think that all these negativity being passed around on the social media with addition of protest in Gujrat, Rajasthan, Bihar, etc and theatres no showing if for the weekend, limited screen space doesn’t impact the movie.
If it was so bad, it would have crashed on day 2 itself like many big movies have.
The fact is, where ever it’s playing, it’s holding up well which is reflected in the collection.
prakashjaaju comments says it all. There are forces out there who are hell bent on making sure the film flops.
Just look at this blog and see the overtime raghav is putting in to spread negativity. He/she talks like collection of Dilwale are below All is Well.
I don’t know how much worse the numbers could be. Unless you were expecting Besharam? So many big films flop that nonetheless put up big numbers for a while. Surely one hasn’t missed all of this? by the way no one is saying the film is bad in the usual sense of the word. But clearly it hasn’t done it for the audience. If a film does 200 you can say it would have done much more without competition and talk about the protests and the lost revenue and so on. But if a film stops at 150 how much can you possibly add? And what if it stops far short of this. Let’s not get into Raghav and so on. We’re not talking about extreme views. As for Jaju and so on you know when you get into conspiracy talk to explain why a Shetty/SRK film isn’t doing well enough you’ve already lost the plot. Again it might do better than expected from this point on. It might find a base at a lower level. But it just doesn’t look very promising. I’d say looking at the three day numbers that the signs are ominous.
By the way negativity on social media is a factor these days. I do think several films are just destroyed even before they get started. But this isn’t Raavan or BV we’re talking about, or films vulnerable to that sort of thing. Surely Shetty is too big for that! Today the film is expected to be 23 crores or more. doesn’t look like a film being destroyed by these external forces. It’s not being liked enough. It was flat on Sat and the Sun jump isn’t huge. Of course the week will decide the final fate of the film. But this isn’t about all this other extraneous stuff. These things never change the essential narrative on a film. No Salman film fails like Jai Ho but that film nonetheless did! had there been competition and some of this stuff people would have used those excuses.
It is very easy to get deceived by the numbers. No wonder folks do that here often. Like Ra.One did 115 crs and JTHJ did 120 crores, so its similar or pathetic or whatever. There’s lot to understand between the words like JTHT released in 2500 screens had 45 crs weekend and then 120 crores alongside SOS which did 110 crores and that wouldn’t have been possible even without little appreciation. If it was negative it would have ended at 70-80 crores after that 45cr. If you don’t understand that, you can never judge a movie’s performance.Similary if you look at 225 of CE and 200 of HNY, you wouldn’t understand the impact and appreciation of CE (OUATIM2 alongside it).
Overall I would be fine with a lesser performance Diwale and this discouraging from SRK to sign Rohit Shetty’s next rightaway. But I do understand the situation and collection far better than folks turning a blind eye.
actually it’s never been rocket science with the box office even if the trade, sites like BOI and many fans try to make it so. I could argue about the screens and so on (a lot of this stuff is also mythologized) but for now I’ll just say that everything which isn’t an utter disaster isn’t a film that has found some sort of ‘appreciation’. a flop doesn’t mean everyone dislikes a film, just the majority. yes if just about everyone dislikes it it might be a total tank that adds nothing but how many flops do that?
I completely agree with satyam. The idea that people are not watching D because of the protests is bull crap. The WOM is not strong that’s the only reason it is not flying.
Acc to many Dilwale max capacity is 26 crores. So, you expect it to touch 25 crs everyday to show that its flying? Rohit Shetty movies don’t have exceptional WOM anytime. WOM is not an issue and it is doing good as much it can do at this time with the screens available even if you ignore the protests issues(which I’ve already mentioned is marginal maybe like 5%).
wow, BM has done remarkably well in the US. As I said a couple of days ago had this been a solo release it would have done a lot more. Because a certain kind of period film does rather well in these parts. UJ was a disaster in India, did about a million in the US, JA was decent in India, did OSO-like business in the US. Now we see BM doing as much as Dilwale.
Guys stop crying. There are 2 open weeks left with two big extended holiday weekend. There is so much space left for movies to collect. There is star wars next week but it is likely to affect BM more than dilwale. Even BM suffered due to cancellation of shows from first day itself.
Biggest ever disruption happened was for Aarakshan when movie was not release in many states for first 8.5 days. But even the. We didnt see such excuses as fans are putting here for dilwale. Aarakshan clearly lost 10-15 cr due to non release in various state for first 8.5 days. I myself could watch it on second saturday when first show started at 3 pm. And many people didnt know that it is finally released and hype went down also competition came from next week releases. But movie didnt survive much even after full fledge release later as it was average one and not much appreciated. But no one makes excuse for its non performance as fans and trade are doing in case of dilwale.
These small incidents of cancelling shows here are there as usual for big movies including Fanna, my name is khan, Jodha Akbar, PK and a lot more. There has been history for this, but it doesnt make much difference in long run maximum one crore to two. Collections cant go like from 200 cr to 175 cr.
Bajirao Mastaani also faced this disruption in many cities of shows cancellation from Day one but we havent seen excuses. No successful makes such excuses neither fanna or pk or jodha akbar. Though, my name is khan did as it wasnt successful and crashed after huge weekend inspite of providing security at places to continue screening without disruption.
There incident happen at one acreen or couple of theatres in couple of cities, this makes hardly any difference to overall collection not more than a crore or two.
No one is going to keep procltecting for week after week, it settled down on sunday for dilwale, and if some arise on sunday it will settle in a day or two. There are 2 more weeks for uninterrupted run.
Guys, Dilwale collections are included with Thusday 20$ previews. There were 2-3 shows were running at every locatin on thursday. And we know how crazy srk fans are to pay 20$ anytime for him.
Considering that, BM > Dilwale in usa.
Though, we will never know unless we have breakdown available.
And Taran Adarsh and whole media is silent on USA figures.
One thing is sure BM will score over dilwale by the end of its run.
Bajirao Mastani, Dilwale 3rd Day Box Office Collections
Bajirao Mastani has shown phenomenal growth in business on Sunday, what with collections of the film set to come in the 18 crore range. The Sanjay Leela Bhansali directed film picked up by around 20% on Saturday and then again by 20-25% on Sunday, giving the film a very good weekend of around 47 crore in India.
The historical is carrying excellent word-of-mouth and looking at the weekend trends, there are chances that the film could collect 10 crore plus on Monday. Usually, when there is 20% or more growth on Day 2 and Day 3, it’s also a sign that the film has been liked by the audience and will hold during weekdays.
The other release, Shah Rukh Khan’s Dilwale wasn’t so lucky. As far as protests and cancellation of shows were concerned, it was a peaceful day. But there were a few stray incidents, like in Mangalore (Karnataka) where some shows of the film were cancelled on Sunday and advance booking has been put on hold for the weekdays.
The average growth for Dilwale at most centres that we tracked was around the 15% mark, some were a little lower, others were higher. The impact of shows getting cancelled or resuming after protests is currently not very clear. As per estimates, the film should collect around 23 crore on Sunday, taking the weekend total to around the 64 crore mark.
For the industry, it has been a big day at the box office. The combined collections of both Bajirao Mastani and Dilwale is set to be around the 42 crore mark.
Monday and the remaining weekdays will be important for both films, as the better performing film will get more shows at multiplexes in Week 2. There is the much-hyped Hollywood film ‘Star Wars: The Force Awakens’ which releases in theatres on Christmas day, it will occupy a few screens too. The fact that big ticket Hollywood films are performing well in India (especially at Metro cities), has encouraged exhibitors to allocate plenty of shows in recent times.
The battle for screens and shows will continue in Week 2, so steady / good collections during the weekdays will be crucial for both Bajirao Mastani and Dilwale.
Excuses, excuses
First and foremost Shetty,SRK and Kajol didn’t cometogether and make a potboiler to make a 150 crore movie
Secondly, the negativity is a shameless publicity stunt and pandering that back fired. Can’t whine about it.
About the clash, he had plenty of opportunities to avoid a clash. Instead, they tried to strong arm SLB and BM but SLB stared him in the eye and stared them down. Result of their arrogance. Now, they can’t be cry babies and put that up as an excuse.
I think there is overall a sense of ennui and getting fed up with SRK’s antics that is very widely prevalent. This is also going to affect his subsequent releases.
So far Dilwale hasnt lost even 30-40 lacs due to show cancellation, otherwise boi will mention it. BM also lost appr same business due to cancellation of shows in various cities of Maharastra and especially pune. These excuses will only embarrass srk’s stardom.
You are bang on target Rajen. These highly narcissist actors deserve a resounding slap on their head and face. SRK got now. Others may get in near future. These egoistic peanut heads does need a reality check and they are getting at last.Before every movie release these substandard actors give their opinions on every subject except their fake acting and get free publicity due to idiotic screaming media in India which is nothing but a bunch of paid and manipulated bunch of idiots. I guess you are right that Indian moviegoers are getting tired to see SRK’s antics.
You don’t seem normal to me. This kind of hatred comment is not sane even to read. So, if SRK or Aamir gives some opinion about their own country and if it doesn’t match with your opinion, they need slaps on their head and face! You need to take it easy.
Come on guy. I said slap through box office. Why do I want to touch these peanut heads or anyone to touch these guys. The statements they make before any movie release is marketing gimmick to grab headlines. The way they expressed their opinion, I also expressed my opinion. It seems you took it personally. May be you are not normal, buddy. Chill.As for as country is concerned India and Indians are very tolerant to take in its stride every tom, dick and harry’s opinion.
“the negativity is a shameless publicity stunt and pandering that back fired. Can’t whine about it.”
Yes, everything SRK or Aamir says is publicity stunt. They are never supposed to open their mouth and if they open its a publicity stunt. You need to get over with that same 1 liner statement from years.
Girish Johar @girishjohar 10h10 hours ago
Saw, #Dilwale…DISAPPOINTED !! Only SRK & #Gerua works. No story, flat jokes. Scale & Songs Good, was expecting much more maybe..didn’t get
Girish Johar @girishjohar Dec 19
Saw #BajiraoMastani, fantastic performances byall @RanveerOfficial @deepikapadukone @priyankachopra Superlative Direction, huge scale canvas
Girish Johar @girishjohar Dec 19
Enjoyed #BajiraoMastani but for me the narrative was slow, a little heavy & songs are not upto the mark. Overall – a MUST WATCH !!!
KRK @kamaalrkhan 3h3 hours ago
#Dilwale is almost same on 3rd day also n collected approx 21Cr only so weekend-21+20+21=62Cr. Now it will be tough to reach to 200Cr.
KRK @kamaalrkhan 4h4 hours ago
#BajiraoMastani has got big jump today n collected approx 18Cr. Superb!
Amod Mehra @MehraAmod 4h4 hours ago
I stand corrected.. I presumed like all other idiotic films of Rohit Shetty.. #Dilwale too would be accepted.. I erred.. my apologies.. !!
Amod Mehra @MehraAmod Dec 17
#Dilwale : Fans of Uncle Shahrukh and Aunty Kajol will enjoy a typical Rohit Shetty style.. paisa vasool mature love story.. Hit !!
Amod Mehra @MehraAmod Dec 17
It took Indian cinema 55 years 2 produce another magnum opus of the calibre of Mughal-E-Azam. #BajiraoMastani is mesmerising. Take a bow SLB
Thank God for KRK,Jaju and Girish Johat.all of them are flawed and probably have their own agendas but Atleast they provide some alternative to the corrupt establishment including the likes of Taran and Komal that have ruled the roost in BOllywood trade information.
Indicine come up with Screen count.
Indicine.com @indicine 6h6 hours ago
Approx screen count, confirmed from various trade sources: Dilwale 3000 screens, Bajirao Mastani 2600. Including shared screens.
BOI will never mention this now. BOI use Kanpur for analysis to say what is happening overall, as this center is balanced mix of single screens and plexes. Now. they are silent.
BM – Sunday is twice of Friday. Sat jump was 50%
Dilwale – Sat dropped 25% from friday, Sunday is 10% higher than Friday.
Sunday Update –
Maharastra – BM > Dilwale
Gujarat – Neck to Neck
Mysore – Neck to Neck
“Maharashtra is super-strong for the film, it has managed to edge out Dilwale here. Even in the state of Gujarat, Bajirao Mastani is performing as well as the Shah Rukh Khan starrer. Mysore circuit too is now neck and neck with Dilwale.”
Completely sold on this. It will be a mountainous task to match Dr. Sreeram Lagoo’s act of NATASAMRAT from theater; nonetheless, very eager for this one. Sherwadkar’s play itself is one classic.
Hope this releases in the US.
Incidentally, Manjrekar was to direct this in Hindi with Amitabh in the lead. That’s been put on hold..
Watched Bajirao Mastani yesterday. Theater was full. It’s difficult to believe but in an year which produced gems like Piku and Tanu Weds Manu Returns, a SLB movie could be the best. It’s being compared to Mughal-E-Azam but the real comparison should be with Doctor Zhivago or the Last Emperor. It’s an adult, highly sophisticated review of a man’s world and his relations to others.
No Bollywood historical has ever given me the lived in feeling. This one does. Whether it is the army camps, or ladies quarters of the Shaniwar wada or the real life palaces used for mujhras everything feels real, pulsating with sweat and noise of life. There are a couple of typical Bhansali excesses: both Kalahari and Pinga songs were not needed and the climax without graphics would have been much better.
The performances are all good and no one stands out more than the other. They all are part and parcel of the energy that drives the movie and the fate that links their characters.
Agreed. Malhaari and Pinga are enjoyable but unnecessary.
Disagree on Graphics in the end, why ?
1) It was best possible graphics. It depicts Ranveer Singh is hallucinating fighting his own army alone, he is able to defeat any enemy but not his own people. His helplessness and vulnerability made it very impactful.
2) It depicts on one side rituals are being performed in shaniwaarvada by his people to save him, and but he hallucinates those ritual flames are falling in river upon him, and he is fighting those rituals for religious freedom against those flames, it is those religious foundations he is battling against. it was beautiful.
Agree with your review. Except for the opulent sets, it actually does not feel like a SLB movie. He has fleshed out the characters more vividly, and relied less on his usual tropes. That being said, I wish he had gone deeper into Bajirao’s military achievements. One of his most astute campaigns that highlighted his military genius was his sacking of Delhi. They keep referring to defeating the Mughal Sultanate, but never show it. Similarly, many of his other 41 victorious campaigns couldve been shown, even if for seconds (or minutes). Perhaps the cost involved (CGI or otherwise) dissuaded SLB.
It definitely is full of content, and palace intrigue, etc. Much better than Jodha-Akbar, but not sure if it still would hold a candle to MeA.
The movie has been banned in Pakistan, and it is being protested by rightwingers in India. Great achievement to have rankled the right on boths sides.
I completely agree with NyKavi on this. As much as I liked the film, I would have loved a bit more focus on his wars and politics.
I think some of the scenes were shot but they were edited out in favour of a shorter runtime. I saw a scene of burning logs rolling in a jungle in the trailer but only a glimpse of that shot was visible and that also only in the opening credits.
Conventional wisdom holds that mass moviegoing is the pastime of another era. The cultural heat emanates from television now. Hollywood churns out only banal sequels and forgettable action films. Netflix is the new multiplex.
Well, the movies just struck back.
In an astounding display of cultural and commercial domination on a global scale — one with little precedent in the 100-year history of Hollywood — the Walt Disney Company’s “Star Wars: The Force Awakens” earned roughly $517 million in ticket sales worldwide, smashing multiple box office records, even after accounting for inflation.
It was the largest opening weekend in North America, with $238 million in ticket sales. To put that figure into perspective, consider that “Avatar,” which analysts consider to be the highest-grossing film in history, with $3.1 billion in global ticket sales, took in $85 million over its first three days in domestic release; the previous record-holder for a December opening was “The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey,” with $87.5 million.
Disney said on Sunday that 47 percent of the gross for “The Force Awakens” came from 3-D screenings, for which tickets sell at a $3 to $5 premium. About 58 percent of the audience was male. About 63 percent of the audience was 26 or older.
For Hollywood, “Star Wars: The Force Awakens,” which cost roughly $350 million to make and market, represents the way movie executives — after years of watching television steal its thunder and suffering the decline of the DVD business — plan to battle back: Death Star-size movies that can capture the public’s imagination in ways reminiscent of the earliest years of blockbusterdom, before the hyperfragmentation of pop culture.
Consumers are just beginning to see this nostalgia-driven strategy — “Jurassic World,” which took in $208 million over its first three days in June, in some ways was the start — but studios have been engaging in a behind-the-scenes race for some time.
Disney has four more “Star Wars” movies on the way, along with “Frozen 2,” a two-part “Avengers: Infinity War” and a reboot of the Indiana Jones series. Fox has three “Avatar” films and “X-Men: Apocalypse.” Universal has another “Jurassic World” and is putting all of its classic monsters (Dracula, the Mummy, Frankenstein) into one megamovie. Warner Bros., deciding that Batman and Superman were too weak on their own, will roll out “Batman vs. Superman” in March and it has a Godzilla vs. King Kong movie, too.
Am happy with success of Star Wars but above is not neccessarily good news.
Have had enough of Superheroes and Marvel and sequels. Let us have some good original dramas.
To put things in perspective, Star Wars did not have the biggest Saturday or Sunday.
It is expected to make about 2.5 times, it’s opening weekend where as Avatar made more than 10 times its opening weekend domestically. No matter what the budget, the break even point for StarWars is pegged at 1.5 billion since Disney paid Lucas 4 billion USD to secure the franchise.
Regardless, it is going to be a huge money spinner.
agreed completely on all counts.. and yes all those superhero films underproduction make me queasy! But again this is low hanging fruit for Hollywood which specially in the age of IMAX and 3D they’ll milk for all its worth.
the Avatar analogy is a bit unfair anyway because none of the other films no matter how big they were did anything like Avatar’s trending.
Caught up with STAR WARS and as a non-fan of this franchise, must say this was an entertaining one. Recommended for all. [And this in spite of being fed up with the super-heroes drivel churned out by Hollywood year-in and year-out from ant-man to rat-man to skunk-man. There is only so much of CGI one can take. ]
The cultural impact of this movie is tremendous: Rarely do American audiences stand-up and cheer unlike our over-enthusiastic desis who start orgasming and sh**ting all over as soon as their Khan comes on screen. But couldn’t miss the whistles and claps as soon as the iconic STAR WARS’ crawl starts filling up the screen in that familiar font and type-face. And there were thunderous claps after the last scene too. The last time I saw this kind of applause in a theater was for TDKR.
STAR WARS still has 3 more to follow up thanks to Disney. I can only imagine how hard they need to work to keep the interest alive — for non-fans like us mainly.
BATMAN v/s SUPERMAN already looks horrific and comical both at the same time, thanks to Eisenberg. And Snyder is really just a visual film-maker, he doesn’t have the story-telling chutzpah like Nolan required to inject rejuvenated blood into a franchise.
But THE movie of this year – and perhaps within the last 5 years — IS MAD MAX: FURY ROAD. A STUNNING achievement that is unbeatable given that George Miller is 70! Unforgettable story-telling through visual imagery and unbeatable kinetic energy to the film. And Theron was fantastic displaying an ocean of tragedy through those steely veins of hers. This movie is a triumph in EACH & EVERY department of creative film-making.I doubt Miller himself will be able to better this feat. [Of course, thanks to the fact that this one has its filmic roots in Australia, you would never expect the applause that an American franchise like STAR WARS gets]. Already caught this one 5 times, and am still not sated.
I must say that to have three back to back experimental films with widely different roles would be a tough feat for any actor let alone if you are no.1 star of the country. Piku, Tamasha(which I didn’t like but which was nevertheless different) and Bajiao Mastani, each one different from the other. With these three, Deepika has put a lot of distance between herself and yesteryear no.1 superstars, let alone contemporary stars( were they ever so experimental? Maybe Rekha was at some point.) Hats off to her.
Also, it’s educative on the ways of Bollywood male stars egos: Shah Rukh Khan has his biggest hit in a number of years with Deepika in Chennai Express, the next movie they do together her role is halved. Happy New Year gets a good opening but doesn’t do as well as CE. Ranbir Kapoor has his biggest hit of his career with her and the next film he does with her, she is totally absent from one half of the movie. The movie is not a disaster as Ranbir’s other recent movies have been but isn’t it clear that if she had been used more, the movie would have done much better? It would have reduced the tedium of Ranbir’s repeated and scenes in the second half.
With Deepika, Kanagana and Priyanka on a roll, you finally have actresses who can pull audiences. They might not be able to open films on their own but they can add a lot of meat to the box office pull of the movies they are in. Common sense. Use them more, not less.
Tamasha was decent overall. Tamasha was regular bollywood stuff in beginning, very good in middle portion until it took regular Imtiaz Ali route to come to end.
Middle portion reminded me of revolutionary road, i thought it was going to be classic, if they had shown all those problems after Ranbeer and Deepika’s wedding, and more focus on their struggle with their relationship instead of escaping to take regular imtiaz ali’s style in preclimax/climax.
Middle portion really gave me goosebumps and ranbeer/deepika’s performance left me speechless in those portion.
I agree. My gripe with it was that Deepika is totally absent in the second half. Had she been used more, it would have been a better move. A much more accessible, softer, refreshing movie which also would have gone well with the audience.
Clash of the Titans: Who won? Who lost?
By Taran Adarsh, December 21, 2015
The results are out in the open. The grand clash [DILWALE versus BAJIRAO MASTANI] has turned the spotlight on a pertinent reality. Clashing with another biggie can prove to be disadvantageous. Right from the division of screens to the division of shows [multiplexes and single screens, both] to the division of footfalls at cineplexes during the all-important opening weekend, the business calculations can go awry when the business gets divided. In addition, negativity, bitterness and the game of one-upmanship creeps in as the release date draws nearer. The ‘fan war’ that erupts on social networking sites is another thorny issue, but let’s not venture into that zone.
It’s often said that two good films can co-exist even if they clash on the same date. There are a number of instances that prove this statement credible. The super-success of BAAHUBALI and BAJRANGI BHAIJAAN earlier this year [released in quick succession, not on the same day] clearly indicates the fact that the audience is willing to dig into their wallets if the content is solid. However, the stakes are very high these days and if the film doesn’t perform to its optimum capacity in the opening weekend, the word spreads faster than fire and not just the overenthusiastic media, even the aam aadmi, who’s well aware of the day-wise data of films in this day and age, promptly labels the film a fiasco. Either you score in the opening weekend or return to the pavilion, that’s the harsh reality.
Talking of DILWALE and BAJIRAO MASTANI, besides the face off, the business of these two biggies also got curtailed thanks to the protests in various cities, which resulted in the cancellation of shows and which in turn meant a loss of a couple of crores to these two films. Also, had DILWALE arrived solo, the numbers would’ve been much more than what they are right now. Ditto for BAJIRAO MASTANI, which is an expensive film and which faced tough competition from DILWALE not just in India, but also in key international markets. Sanjay Leela Bhansali enjoys tremendous following Overseas, but you cannot ignore the fact that SRK is the Pied Piper as far as the diaspora is concerned.
The silver lining is, the two films are being liked by their target audience. Furthermore, the genres are diverse, hence, in all likelihood, DILWALE and BAJIRAO MASTANI can rake in the moolah and cement their status in days to come. The multiple holidays ahead [Christmas and New Year] and the fact that there’s no major Hindi film hitting the marquee till 8 January 2016 should boost the ticket sales of these two mammoth ventures. STAR WARS: THE FORCE AWAKENS, which is generating huge revenues internationally, is scheduled to release next Friday. It will be interesting to see how the epic space film behaves at the Indian box-office and whether or not DILWALE and BAJIRAO MASTANI would face the heat from the new entrant.
Monday is akin to a crucial examination for all films, after the weekend results are out and DILWALE and BAJIRAO MASTANI will have to stand tall from Monday to Wednesday. Thursday evening onwards [24 December], right till Sunday [27 December], the business will again shoot upwards and get a further boost, yet again, from Thursday [31 December] till Sunday [3 January 2016], which clearly indicates that the two films have ample time to garner big numbers till the Amitabh Bachchan – Farhan Akhtar starrer WAZIR arrives in theatres on 8 January 2016.
The all-important question is, do DILWALE and BAJIRAO MASTANI have legs to maintain the momentum for three weeks? With Aamir Khan and Salman Khan gallantly marching into Rs 300 cr Club with PK and BAJRANGI BHAIJAAN, respectively [India biz], SRK will have to surpass his biggest grosser so far CHENNAI EXPRESS [approx Rs 228 cr; India biz] and speed past Rs 300 cr mark to compete with his contemporaries. On the other hand, BAJIRAO MASTANI has a colossal budget and its investors, who must be on Cloud Nine after the incredible critical acclaim that the well-made historical has garnered, will now be hoping that it rakes in huge profits at the box-office too.
The decisive phase has commenced. Let’s wait and watch which film reaches the winning post first. Or will both emerge champions?
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Dilwale And Bajirao Mastani Weekend Estimates
Monday 21 December 2015 09.00 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
Dilwale had a strong Sunday growing around 15-20% to gross around 23 crore nett. the figure could be come out a little higher as some cities in Gujarat have shown big gains and if this is the case with all the states then the figure could go higher.
The disruptions that the film faced in various regions over the first two days due to political issues were less on Sunday. The weekend of the film will be around 64 crore nett which is good total as it was a non holiday weekend and the screenings were around 40% less than what a big film like this world normally get. Some circuits have under performed due to less screens especially Delhi /UP but generally most circuits are good with some having excellent weekend business.
Bajirao Mastaani also showed 15-20% growth on Sunday as its business will be in the range of 17.50 crore nett. The weekend will be around 45 crore nett which is actually a good number if looked at it from the face value point of view but low for the costs involved. It really needed a higher start or the growth on Saturday and Sunday to be higher.
Bajirao Mastani fared very well in Maharashtra and Mysore, fair in other parts with West Bengal, Bihar, Assam and Orissa being poor. The film also had a Telugu and Tamil version which fared very poorly and grossed around 75 lakhs nett over the weekend.
WORLDWIDE Dilwale 145 Crore Bajirao Mastani 85 Crore
Monday 21 December 2015 09.00 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
Dilwale has taken the third best opening Worldwide this year of 145-150 crore. The figures are behind Bajrangi Bhaijaan and Prem Ratan Dhan Payo bot of which had big holidays in the opening weekend. Bajirao Mastani has recorded the fifth best Worldwide figures of the year at 85-90 crore. It is Welcome Back that separates the two films. The top five Worldwide opening weekends of 2015 are as follows.
No film has ever grossed 200 crore Worldwide in the opening weekend but together Dilwale and Bajirao Mastani have easily crossed the 200 crore mark with the combined total to be 230 crore on a worst case scenario.
Dilwale Top In Overseas 2015 – All Time Record In Gulf
Monday 21 December 2015 09.00 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
Dilwale looks set to be the highest opener of 2015 in Overseas with a likely total of $8.5 million. Bajrangi Bhaijaan is the present record holder with business of $8.1 million. The Overseas opening is also the second best of all time after Dhoom 3. The film smashed all records in Gulf to become the biggest opener ever in that market. Not only did it set an all time record but also became the first film to cross $3 million in Gulf with a weekend of $3.2 mllion.
The business in US / Canada was $1.9 million and here Bajirao Mastani actually had more theatres playing on 304 theatres against the 268 theatres of Dilwale. the Bajirao Mastani theatre count was a record for a Hindi film in US / Canada.it did well in the territory grossing $1.7 million.
The combined business of Dilwale in UK, US / Canada, Gulf and Australia is around $6.65 million and rest of the markets should add $1,75 million as it has also done very well in Pakistan, Malaysia and Nepal.
After collecting Rs 21 crore on its opening day itself, ‘Dilwale’, directed by Rohit Shetty, amassed Rs 20.09 crore in India on Saturday, taking its cumulative total to Rs 41.09 crore, read a statement.
The film, which also stars Kajol, Varun Dhawan and Kriti Sanon in pivotal roles, received an overwhelming response overseas as well. ‘Dilwale’ collected $3.4 million on Friday abroad.
“The film registered biggest ever opening for any Bollywood film in UAE and is running to packed houses over the weekend,” the statement read. It is being appreciated in the US, Britain, Malaysia, Australia and New Zealand too.
‘Bajirao Mastani’, helmed by filmmaker Sanjay Leela Bhansali, has also earned well.
“#BajiraoMastani biz witnessed superb growth on Saturday, gaining a strong foothold at multiplexes. Friday Rs 12.80 crore, Saturday Rs 15.52 crore. Total: Rs 28.32 crore,” trade analyst Taran Adarsh posted on Twitter.
Apart from Ranveer and Deepika, the film also stars actress Priyanka Chopra.
‘Bajirao Mastani’ has released in 3,050 screens in India, while it is reported that ‘Dilwale’ made its way into as many as 2,700 screens. The budgets of both films were clearly over Rs 100 crore.
im OK with protesting as long as there aren’t calls for banning and such. the ad does seem out of place especially since it is promoting women as objects…who is holding another object. I would hope the same thing would be applied to men also though if used in this way.
It is not that bad it is still journalist community who are protesting on twitter and kinda peacefully. Journalist will feel bad that they daily hard work is ruined by such ads on front page, its understandable.
Watched Aaj ki raat. Bachchan is the star of the show. Another one who almost stole the thunder was Vijay Takur Whose selfless service brought tears to many. Bachchan still looks luminous and he should do these type of shows more even if the trp is less. Entertaining and enlightening.
taran adarsh @taran_adarsh 15m15 minutes ago
#BajiraoMastani is UNSTOPPABLE. SUPER word of mouth translates into SUPER biz. Fri 12.80 cr, Sat 15.52 cr, Sun 18.45 cr. Total: ₹ 46.77 cr.
Indicine.com @indicine 6m6 minutes ago
Bajirao Mastani has performed phenomenally well in its first weekend too. Growth from Friday to Sunday, 44%, strong hold today.
D IS doing very well in single screens today. Multiplexes is around 25 percent on morning like BM. I would say a 13 cr total for D today would represent a very good hold. In a normal release that will be much higher. Let’s see where it ends up but at the moment the multiplexes will decide. For BM it should not drop too much from Friday and that will be a good hold.
‘Girish Johar @girishjohar 3h3 hours ago
Early Monday BO trends suggest stronger number for #BajiraoMastani at the mpxs !’
Source ?
‘Multiplexes is around 25 percent on morning like BM.’ ?
BM is clearly ahead in multiplexes now, check bms bookings or read below-
Girish Johar @girishjohar 3h3 hours ago
Early Monday BO trends suggest stronger number for #BajiraoMastani at the mpxs !
“D IS doing very well in single screens today. Multiplexes is around 25 percent on morning like BM. I would say a 13 cr total for D today would represent a very good hold. In a normal release that will be much higher”
Just to give comparision
– CE had 12.5 cr on 1st monday with 32cr Sunday collections.
-HNY had 15 cr 1st monday with 33 cr sunday collections.
So, Dilwale should have 13cr 1st monday with 24cr sunday collections to be ‘stable’ ??
would be surprised if it did 13. and if it did it would be the best day for the film so far, relatively speaking.
But on the larger point yes as I’ve always said the big films drop quite a bit after the weekend and then truly fizzle out after a week. Because the numbers are still big everyone pretends there’s no problem. But this is why these films are helped by getting off to huge starts. When a film doesn’t do that it’s hard to make it up later even with comparatively better trending.
I think both D and BM will do around 10 crores on monday and that is actually stable IMO which will extend till Thu. The 2nd weekend will decide the lifetime business for both movies.
You just said 13 would be stable. Now you’re saying 10 would be ok too. In any case for BM that would represent a rather low drop compared to Fri whereas for Dilwale it would be more than a 50% one. It’s fair to say given BM’s graph, the WOM etc that this will probably remain stable next weekend. Not sure about Dilwale. Usually even the biggest openers bleed quite a bit.
Leaving all this aside I’m trying to figure out what that number for Dilwale would be that would NOT be ok for you as (and in order) an opening weekend number, an opening week number, finally an overall gross number. Because as so often in the past the bar is often brought down so low after release that anything that’s not a disaster does better than it!
Komal Nahta @KomalNahta 59m59 minutes ago
#BajiraoMastani grosses an impressive USD 4.5 million Overseas in 1st weekend. That’s Rs. 29.85 crore!!
While Dilwale is appr. 8.5 mn.
Komal Nahta @KomalNahta 54m54 minutes ago
Bajirao Mastani overtakes Dilwale in US-Canada on Sunday. That’s quite an achievement for Bajirao Mastani. Dilwale $599,962.
BM $617,943
Girish Johar @girishjohar 3h3 hours ago
Early Monday BO trends suggest stronger number for #BajiraoMastani at the mpxs !
Bajirao Mastani continued its glorious run on Day 4 at the box office. The film was rock-solid on Monday, as there was hardly any drop at most centres that we tracked. In fact, some were performing better than Friday. The centre that registered the biggest fall, dropped only by 21%, which is excellent.
Dilwale, on the other hand, was steady. The percentage of drop from Friday to Monday is bigger than Bajirao Mastani, but that is only because Dilwale took a bigger start on Friday. The average drop for Dilwale is around 45-50% from Friday, which is normal for a weekday.
At single-screens, Dilwale is performing very well, while Bajirao Mastani has taken the lead at multiplexes.
There is a good chance that the Sanjay Leela Bhansali film could put up a total in the range of Rs 10 crore +/- on Monday
That’s true. Next week if the Delhi and Rajasthan single screens switch to D both movies can continue collecting during the holiday weekend. In hindsight SRK was an idiot not to release the movie on 25 th. I don’t know what made him so confident of a sub standard movie. Not only he lost out on the initial he will lose out on the holiday weekends also now that the WOM is out. Single screens will support the movie but for that they need to play the movie.
“In hindsight SRK was an idiot not to release the movie on 25 th.”
Agree, this has been a big messup. The same movie would have earned lot more in that 10 days if released on 25th till 3rd of Jan. 18th release would have been only good if they anticipated great WOM, which I never think is possible with RS movie.. always will be average/above average types.
“Both films will do 8.5cr on Monday is what the bo experts are saying on twitter based on the feedback from morning shows.”
Morning shows is very bad indicator for these movies. BM will collect at plexes but mostly evening and night shows and similarly D is collecting at SS which is again evening and night shows not during the work timings.
Breathe easy, Raees and Sultan won’t have a Dilwale v/s Bajirao Mastani like showdown!
Monday, 21 December 2015 – 5:28pm IST | Agency: dna webdesk
While Shah Rukh Khan and Salman Khan were supposed to go head-to-head against each other next Eid, we hear the clash has been finally averted…
Cut to a few months back. Farhan Akhtar and Ritesh Sidhwani announced that their next production venture Raees featuring Shah Rukh Khan will be releasing on Eid 2016. Soon enough, YRF too revealed that Salman Khan starrer Sultan will also hit screens on the same day. We were just reeling under the shock of having the biggest Bollywood clash happening in a few months’ time that we heard about a new development.
People, now you can breathe easy! Salman and SRK are not clashing anymore. The latest we hear is that Salman has asked the Sultan makers to move their release to a later date. And now, Shah Rukh is all set to enjoy a solo release in June next year with Raees definitely coming on the said date.
Raees, more in the commercial yet unconventional space had released a teaser video which has created tremendous buzz among the audiences. Sultan’s first look picture also created waves in tinsel town. But now that Sultan has been pushed to a later date, SRK fans will be really happy.
Also, will Sultan now release on Diwali? That’s something again which is doing the rounds now. But if it does book Diwali for its release, Sultan will yet again go head to head with Ranbir Kapoor’s Ae Dil Hai Mushkil and Ajay Devgn’s Shivaay!
Akshaye Rathi @akshayerathi
Go to a single screen cinema & watch the reaction to the scene in which Bajirao charges alone towards an army! Goosebumps! #BajiraoMastani
Bajirao Mastani Holds Very Strongly On Monday
Monday 21 December 2015 23.00 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
Bajirao Mastani has held very strongly on Monday and is set to drop in the 15-20% range from Friday which may well mean business in the 10 crore nett region. The film had a fair trend over the weekend but on Monday the film has really come into its own. The business was strong in Maharashtra over the weekend and on Monday most other circuits have held up very well while Maharashtra continued its strong run.
The collections on Monday may well edge past Dilwale which will show a drop of 50-55% from Friday. Dilwale has fallen in the big cites while smaller cities have held better but the tables have turned on Monday and Bajirao Mastani will start eating into that 20 crore nett weekend lead of Dilwale on the weekdays, possibly even on Monday.
The Monday business now does give a good chance of recovery for Bajirao Mastani which looked a long shot over the weekend.
Wow first bit of positivity on BM by BOI finally cottoned onto what’s ACTUALLY happening, but slyly attracting any negativity towards D in the headlines.
Hats off to S Bhansali for his passion & perseverance that makes one forgive the melodrama & excesses..
“With these three, Deepika has put a lot of distance between herself and yesteryear no.1 superstars, let alone contemporary stars( were they ever so experimental? ”
Agree with ‘prose’
To heck with political correctness & civility & restraint
Am wondering if PK is still safe or not yet?
Also wondering what kind of clash this is- only affecting Dilwale while BM goes from strength to strength.
Adbhut, ati adbhut!
Many a times, I felt he needed to go a pitch lower, a shade subtler.
But the fact was that it worked in totality inspite of the ‘flaws’
Part apocryphal part trance like, the bhansalification aka melodrama and color pallettes aid the depiction of bajiraos mental habitus
When Ranveer Singh rushes towards and through an entire army singlehandedly, the epicness of scale and canvus only serve to depict the wounds that lie within…
Too deep too untreatable
Watched both Dilwaale and BM this weeeknd. Dilwale was alright, nothing spectacular and infact it was less comedy with diluted emotions, might just be an okay film boxoffice wise. BM was great in terms of sets, acting, visuals. I agree with reviewer above that some more war scenes was the need of the hour. It ended abruptly and they should have gotten into the voiceover explaining Bajirao’s scenes in the end. Overall BM without clash would have been huge and now also its overtaken DW in US.
So, what is it-
Was SRK just unlucky
Or
A victim of miscalculation
Or
Foolishly arrogant
Or
Combination of all three
Nobody put a gun to his head and said he had to release it on 18th. Even tried to deny BM screen space by cajoling/ forcing the theatre owners and distributors.
Now using the ‘clash’ excuse is a bit rich, won’t you say?
I think he misread the CE result. He’s been trying for years to match Aamir’s biggest films and for a number of years now Salman’s biggest too. Now on his best day he clearly can get the initial going but (and this is a point I’ve made before) he needs much more to get that initial going. Other actors in the film, a circus-like deal and so on. When he doesn’t have this the initials are never very strong irrespective of release dates and competition (both Dons, JTHJ, MNIK, RNBDJ). On the other side you have Ra One, CE (Deepika had a big part of this), HNY, OSO. Now Dilwale is an exception to the rule. Because every Shetty film opens big and does minimally well. Maybe the whole nostalgia bit just didn’t work here, maybe the advertising didn’t. whatever. But the point is that it’s not like Salman where any film he appears in opens big and is on a tear for a number of days. It’s not like Aamir where you get the biggest bang for the genre and of course he still has the biggest totals as well which no one has been able to match so far without inflation becoming a factor (this of course also includes Ghajini which remains the best masala result in Bombay of this entire contemporary period). SRK has his base, has his history and can get a huge initial going with some of these other factors in place. So Dilwale wasn’t the wrong decision. However he probably thought he could get in all his history and better that film’s result. Partly Bhansali spoilt the deal for him but this film wouldn’t have done those numbers anyway. Shetty isn’t that kind of filmmaker. Also the nostalgia bit depends on an older generation. DDLJ is 20 years old. The nostalgia was there for part of the audience, not everyone. Of course he’s unlucky too because irrespective of these factors you don’t expect to fail with Shetty. But it reveals a certain weakness that SRK has always had. People have forever sold him as a marketing genius (the usual propaganda associated with him) but they’ve always ignored the flip-side. He’s never had the script sense that one needs for the different stuff but beyond this he treats the big commercial films simply as great marketing moments. It’s true that a lot of mass cinema can be low brow and benefit from that sort of advertising but there has to be some sincerity to it. Otherwise everyone would be as successful as Shetty. If you’re Salman you can get away with poor stuff because the audience shows up for you. Otherwise every other star no matter how big has to be careful. Of course the other unexpected thing here is that I would never have expected Bhansali to do better in any sense than Dilwale. So it’s a rather odd result. Looking forward I’d be surprised if either Raees or Fan were very successful (again using relative standards for these genres). Because again SRK has never profited in these kinds of things either. Whether in the 90s or beyond. It’s just rare for a somewhat different film of his to do well. I am hardly a SRK fan but I think he could have had a much stronger career for the last 10-12 years and his most immediate contemporaries prove this. Because he’s had the initial, he’s had the ability to put up the numbers. He’s just done some terrible films. However these too add up. But the signs have been there for many years. the last time he had the biggest grosser of the year was probably OSO. And in terms of absolute grossers he’s not even in the same ballpark as the other two. CE is 80-100 crores behind Bajrangi let alone PK.
If the combined final totals of both films is more than say 350 crores the clash is somewhat worth it. The combined business if historic makes sense. Otherwise both films see no benefit from the clash. The bigger loser is not D it’s always the film that has better WOM that stands to lose out more overall. BM clearly seems to have lost out more. In the end D will do probably 20% less had clash been averted and all that is due to arrogance of SRK no one else.
D had the kajol pairing, shetty and varun…New kid on the block. It had all angles covered one would think.
And clearly SRK script sense is poor as he chose to have the clash. This is not Lagaan or TZP…where Aamir probably sensed he can go with a clash sensing his film is good enough….SRK script sense is haywire…maybe he recovers something from his next two releases but nothing is guaranteed.
Sometimes, a moral victory is priceless.
Ask SLB if you would rather make a few crores less but own SRK or the reverse.
This also catapults SLB into a different league. Hitherto, he was considered a maverick with a niche following and given to glitzy melodramas without much substance. Now, he is critically acclaimed and commercially successful, even going up against the reigning ‘King’. I think SLB will take this anyday over the other alternative. His distributors might think otherwise, though.😄😄
““The bigger loser is not D it’s always the film that has better WOM that stands to lose out more overall.”
agree.. specially when it’s not the usual mass market fare.”
Completely disagree. The weaker WOM is always the first one out. The movie with good/great WOM will eventually cover its base(and might get marginally impacted <10%) but weak WOM will never get that benefit.
Incase you blindly say I'm saying this seeing D's WOM, I had said the same words before its release in more elaborate way.
I think you not understanding what I’m trying to say. D loses out because it forced the clash. It could have made lot more on its own. As it’s initial would cover lot more. But because there is a clash BM loses out as neither it’s initial or WOM is maximised via losing screen space. It’s only because of the clash I say this.
BM was announced on Dec 25.. way back in 2014 summer. SRK announced Dilwale 18th Dec in June 2015. Then Eros pushed back the movie and came on 18th Dec as well and this was announced after D’s announcement. I don’t think SRK could have back out at that time. This is the fact, whatever the spin is all over.
That might be correct but SRK could have moved to Jan 25. I know there’s a prestige battle in these matters and I’m not necessarily blaming him but at the end of the day whether a film is a hit or not is the only thing that matters. In the long run no one remembers a lot of this other stuff. People might say you got scared and moved away but if you have a bigger winner no one eventually cares.
according to a story Master posted earlier it’s now just the SRK film on Eid and Sultan meanwhile is releasing on Diwali. Which by the way also makes your point. Salman is at the top of his game but he still doesn’t want competition!
“That might be correct but SRK could have moved to Jan 25. ”
I hope you mean Dec 25. Even I agree but it wasn’t just 1 person calling the shots.. they had lot of meetings with everyone to come up with that Dec 18th date and even they stuck to it eventually. Eventually it didn’t work out the way it was supposed to workout. Finally, this will be an eye opener to the whole industry and you already see the reports that Raees and Sultan will not clash anymore.
The thing is that no one would miss Dilwale for BM if both films had relatively good WOM. People would either watch both or just watch the former. No one who was otherwise interested in Dilwale would skip the film no matter how good the WOM for BM was. However when it’s weak WOM for one the choice is relatively easy (again with Salman Dilwale would still have opened stronger). But a film like BM can only gross upto a point even in the best case scenario and even as a solo. Hence competition here affects it, specially in the age of multiplex ticket rates and that too for a filmmaker who’s depending on these screens almost exclusively. As a larger matter also a dropping film will not really be able to arrest its decline. Consider all the big solo failures in recent years. Not having competition does nothing to slow the drops. The successful film though while it can trend well cannot cover everything later on. Certainly not in these times. No matter how well some hits trend they never get that kind of gross without those big initials. A film with good WOM can lose out on some of its potential audience for these other reasons. On a failing film if you do the comparison there’s not much difference. Take OSO/Saawariya. The former might have opened bigger without the latter which actually had strong numbers over the weekend. Then it completely tanked. OSO might have been 10% higher or something but Saawariya doing a bit more than it did doesn’t really mean much. and OSO was still the bigger film. here it was the opposite.
I’d watch D over BM initially but not now…more intrigued by latter now.
Maybe on Monday D is still ahead but it’s a small lead before the inevitable happens. Long run D may still outgross BM but this was expected. No one would have expected this type of battle. Sounds like SLB saved his best film for this very moment. Bitter sweet.
I’ve never been a Bhansali fan but I’m somewhat tempted by BM. With someone other than Ranveer I might even have gone by now. I too would have chosen Dilwale over it if I had to make it for one. But now it seems clear that the latter just isn’t much (though it’s probably a one time watch).
Slb and Eros deserve some credit for not backing down and taking a hit on profit…but in doing so I suspect other films might open up to clashing. If you have a good film and know it you might lose profit but the media positively reflects on you which gives more mileage then few more crores.
A clash is only sensible if both films work. Combined they should outgross any record holder just like Gadar and Lagaan did and Welcome and TZP. there should be high possibility of crossover audience.
Maybe YRF changed as they are sensible and felt sorry for SRK 😃😃😃
fans think in terms of revenge and blah blah. And media also enjoys using such terms. Otherwise i dont think anyone can make anything productivity thinking in terms of negative agenda. Slb is not producer, just check out his interview with komal nahta i posted above. He comes across genuine man and more mature than before.
More than Bhansali it was Eros’s decision to release BM on 18th December. This has been made clear many times over the course. Eros wanted this movie in 2015 calendar year and they have Shivaay in 2016 calendar again competition with Karan’s Ranbir movie on Diwali.
Why Bajirao Mastani has upset two families
December 15, 2015 10:10 IST
Ranveer Singh in Bajirao MastaniSanjay Leela Bhansali’s Bajirao Mastani has ruffled quite a few feathers among the descendants of the Peshwa and his Muslim wife.
Sanjay Leela Bhansali’s passion project has faced many a hurdle.
Bajirao Mastani, the self-indulgent film maker’s take on Peshwa Bajirao I and princess Mastani Begum, was envisioned with publicised excitement some 12 years ago.
It quickly came to a dead end after lead pair Salman Khan and Aishwarya Rai developed off-screen differences.
When the idea was dusted off much later — this time with Ranveer Singh, Deepika Padukone and Priyanka Chopra — the film found it shared its release date (December 18) with Shah Rukh Khan’s Dilwale.
Another blow came more recently as the film’s songs caused an outcry among the descendants of the Maratha warrior and his Muslim lover, who found them objectionable.
There is concern and dismay in the Bhansali camp, crew members admit.
In the manner of most ventures under his banner, Bajirao Mastani is a costly affair: co-produced with Eros, it has reportedly been made for Rs 200 crore. The period story has all the trappings of a Bhansali product: forbidden romance, drama, scale and lots of finery.
Some of that is glimpsed in the songs revealed so far: Pinga, a dance-off between Padukone and Chopra, and Malhari, a celebratory jig by Singh.
The tracks betray a thirst for mass appeal, but the ample use of catchphrases and the flamboyant dance moves have not gone down well with members of Bajirao’s clan — his descendants from Mastani, the Nawabs of Banda, have filed petitions in the courts of Jabalpur and Indore, and his heirs from his first wife, Kashibai, spoke out in the media.
The families want Bajirao to be remembered as a peerless war strategist.
He was born into a Chitpavan Brahmin family in 1700 and took over from his father as the Peshwa at the age of 19. He is known to have fought 41 battles without a single loss.
According to historian Mandar Lawate, his strength was speed. For example, he struck by capturing the enemy’s water bodies and fields, or pre-emptively hit the opposition’s capital while they were making their way to his.
Biographer Jayraj Salgaokar says he was instrumental in expanding the guerilla warfare techniques developed by Shivaji.
Kashibai was docile and personable. She suffered from arthritis and tuberculosis, which her descendants note would make it hard to dance fluently.
When Bajirao saved Bundela warrior Chhatrasal’s territory from Muhammad Khan Bangash, he was rewarded with land and the hand of Mastani in marriage around 1730.
There are various stories about Mastani, who is also believed to have been a poet and Krishna devotee. The Begum, members of the Banda family say, was not a courtesan of Chhatrasal but a daughter from his Persian wife Ruhani Bai. Despite resistance from his mother and brother, Bajirao is said to have married her out of love.
Terms like vaat lavli (slang for destroyed) and rhyming words like chatak matak vatak cannot have been in the vocabulary of a warrior King in the 18th century, reckons Mahendra Peshwa, a consulting engineer and ninth-generation descendent of Bajirao, referring to the song Malhari.
Thus, open letters were written to Bhansali, demanding that he do his homework.
The wives in royal families would never dance in public, notes Mahendra, especially not in midriff-baring saris. “They would be clothed from head to toe in those days. In front of strangers, they were required to cover their heads and wear shawls.”
For the families, who feel they are uncared for in general, this seems to have been an opportunity to come to the fore. Standing in the ruins of Shaniwarwada, the Peshwas’ ancestral home and headquarters in Pune, Mahendra and his wife, Sucheta, wonder if their cause will find political support. They are enthused by what they dub as hints of discomfort in the film maker.
“Another song titled Fituri has offensive lyrics too but they have withheld the video so far, probably out of fear,” he says, with a laugh. “They have not yet come to Pune for promotions either.”
The Peshwas maintain that while Shivaji has been adequately glorified for his contributions to Maharashtra, Bajirao hasn’t been remembered enough.
“In the 40 years of his life and 20 years of his career as the Peshwa, Mastani was a part of the last decade. Why focus so much on the love story and not his laurels as a battle strategist,” Mahendra’s uncle, Udaysing, asks over the phone.
Equally incensed are Mastani’s progeny, who are spread across Sehore, Indore and Bhopal in Madhya Pradesh and work as social workers, teachers and government servants. “If some love story of historic figures fascinates the celluloid world, we have no problem. But should someone take liberties to insult those great people,” asks an angry Tamkeen Ali Bahadur, sitting at his modest home at Sehore, some 50 km from Bhopal.
“Mastani Begum was not an ordinary dancer but a poet and war strategist who accompanied Bajirao on many occasions,” adds Afaque Ali Bahadur, who recently retired as additional-CEO of the District Council. They are the descendants of Shamsher Ali, the son of Mastani, who became the Nawab of Banda. The family lost its riches when Nawab Ali Bahadur II fought against the British along with Laxmibai of Jhansi.
The family lives modestly, but its syncretic royal past shows up at times. While they are fond of Urdu poetry and the rare Nawabi delicacy ratan kalia, young Umar Ali Bahadur, who leads the charge in preserving the family history, also likes to chant Sanskrit couplets and carries a pocket-sized Gita in his bag.
Some years ago, Umar attended college in Pune and simultaneously made efforts to restore the grave of Mastani Begum at Pabal village near the city. Tamkeen too remains busy digging up government records of his family’s property, belongings and jewellery impounded by the British.
Members of both the families jointly addressed the press in Mumbai some days ago.
To allay their concerns, the film’s makers declared they would include a disclaimer saying it is a work of fiction where any resemblance to real characters was coincidental.
Still, the families have demanded a look at the script and the movie before release.
“It is not a ban we are seeking but removal of what is objectionable. How can you disclaim it, when the names of all the characters are the same as in real life?” says Udaysing.
While it may not be firmly rooted in historical fact, the film’s making did entail research. The film is based on fictional work Rauu, which draws from Bajirao’s life but focuses on his love for Mastani.
The writers, Bhansali and Prakash Kapadia, reportedly also consulted historian Ninad Bedekar. Research brought members of the crew to the two-storeyed Raja Dinkar Kelkar Museum in Pune’s crowded Shukrawar Peth. They visited twice, says the museum’s director, Sudhanva Ranade, whose grandfather and founder of the establishment, D G Kelkar, wrote poems in admiration of Bajirao.
The museum’s collection ranges from objects of everyday use to royal artifacts from the 18th to 20th centuries. Parts of the Mastani Mahal, believed to have been built by the Peshwa for his beloved, have been preserved here and became a reference point for the film’s makers. It is a useful peek into the decor of that era: ornamental columns, arches, windows and seating areas all carved in dark brown wood as well as chandeliers and lamps.
Kapadia, who has the voice and inflection of a movie narrator, talks emotionally about the effort behind the film. In the years since its conception, multiplexes sprung up and audiences preferred shorter, youthful tales. His three-hour script was shortened to two hours. He combined the novel Rauu with knowledge from other books, maps and lectures by historians, cutting himself off from people for ten months to write the story.
Kapadia says he consciously stayed away from depicting the intricacies of Maharashtra culture that would have to be explained. Hints of it will be in the costumes and dialogues. “We wanted a universal flavour because this story could be anywhere. The focus is on the tremendous inherent conflict — a married Brahmin man’s love for an outsider with Muslim roots.”
Designer Anju Modi created around 80 saris for the film after studying museums in Mumbai and Pune, and visiting smaller towns like Paithan, Chanderi and Maheshwar.
Along with Ranveer Singh on a trip to Nashik, she learnt how to fashion and drape traditional dhotis. In a remote area of Pune, Modi says she found a local to create typical turbans. She had two distinct styles to draw from — Maratha for Bajirao and his first wife, Kashibai, and Islamic for Mastani.
Another rich source of inspiration for Modi was Maratha paintings that helped her internalise the period. Paintings of Ravi Varma helped make-up artist Uday Shirali decide on a look for little-known Kashibai. He kept make-up to a minimum, using under-eye cream and foundation to give Chopra a younger look since women married early in those times.
If nothing else, Bhansali’s films are known for their sets. Sriram Iyengar first heard of Bhansali’s plan for a film on the Peshwas 12 years ago. Between assignments, Iyengar began studying Maratha forts and put together preliminary drawings of various sets. When the period film was revived, someone else was named art director. But a few meetings and twists of fate later, Iyengar and business partner Sujeet Sawant were taken onboard. Saloni Dhatrak joined them to offer expertise on Mughal architecture. Together they recreated Shaniwarwada with Kashi’s villa and a mirror chamber.
Traditionally, the Marathas built simple forts with smaller rooms but Bhansali wanted everything to be scaled up. “He said he cannot have his protagonists in kholis,” says Iyengar.
Bhansali is famously idiosyncratic. Bajirao’s descendants point out that they were not approached in the run-up to the film and during most of the shooting. The Peshwas were invited on set once. Tamkeen says he tried to contact Bhansali to express his concerns over the depiction but received a lukewarm response, compelling him to move the courts for justice. Some aspects like an animated teaser on Bajirao were encouraging but the songs drew their ire.
The families are involved in regular fields like education and mechanics but routine lives have hardly dulled their pride in the laurels of ancestors. The Peshwas have to now buy Rs 5 tickets to see Shaniwarwada, a heritage site under the Archaelogical Survey of India. When it closes at 6 pm and they are herded out with other visitors, Mahendra laughs at the irony of being asked to leave “his own home”.
Our anger must reach Bhansali, say both the families. This curious battle has allowed Bajirao’s descendents to discover a dormant warrior spirit, at the receiving end of which is a headstrong Bollywood director.
— Ranjita Ganesan, Shashikant Trivedi in Mumbai
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Bajirao Mastaani To Find It Tough At The Box Office
Wednesday 16 December 2015 12.30 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
Bajirao Mastaani will find it a tough struggle at the box office for two reasons, The first being its a clash against a big film and the second being a weak director who normally finds regional success which will not do with this huge budget. This regional success becomes an even bigger issue with a clash. Below are the ratios for Sanjay Leela Bhansali directed films for Mumbai circuit.
Khamoshi – 38.02%
Hum Dil De Chuke Sanam – 46.86%
Devdas – 31.27%
Black – 41.45%
Saawariya – 44.92%
Guzaarish – 40.16%
Goliyon Ki Raasleela Ram – Leela – 43.62%
All the films be it success or failure are lopsided in Mumbai circuit barring Devdas which has a normal ratio and that was due to the presence of Shahrukh Khan. There will be around 100 crore up for a grabs in Mumbai circuit for both films and even if Bajirao Mastaani does excellent and takes half of it, the normal 42.5% ratio of Sanjay Leela Bhansali films will mean a little over 100 crore nett business but that is with a 50/50 result in Mumbai, the numbers will be scary if the circuit goes in the favour of Dilwale. The result Bajirao Mastaani will really need is to beat Dilwale at least 60/40.
The pluses for Bajirao Mastaani are that there is a lot of hype with the clash in the media and this may have created more awareness for the film than had it come alone. So despite the content holding little interest in places like Delhi / UP, East Punjab and West Bengal initially, maybe awareness could help bring in respectable footfalls in these areas.
Another plus is basically by default as the film will not get the huge release in terms of multiplex screens and a smaller release can sometimes work in favor of films which are regional or more niche in content especially if word of mouth strikes.
The third is that it did pre book the better single screens with Bajrangi Bhaijaan in Delhi /UP and Maharashtra and this should help expecially in Maharashtra. In Delhi / UP it will be less effective as the directors films barring Devdas have never worked in Delhi / UP. In fact in UP, all have been big duds outside Devdas.
The film should manage to do well in Maharashtra, CP Berar and Marathawada side of Nizam though it is Gujarat that will be deciding factor for the film, if Dilwale goes the way all Rohit Shetty films go in Gujarat then the writing will be on the wall for Bajirao Mastaani as Mumbai circuit will not be up to the mark and with Gujarat not performing and its very unlikely that other areas can come to the rescue.
gaurav gaur (@gauravgaur9) 7 mins ago
Major drop in #Dilwale rajasthan day four 38 lakhs..!!!! Where as #BajiraoMastani rajasthan day 4 is 52 lakhs almost same as Friday..!!
gaurav gaur (@gauravgaur9) 5 mins ago
#Dilwale india must be 8crs while #BajiraoMastani around 10 cr Monday day four… Bajirao is ahead of Diwale today..!!!
SRK might have learned the lesson now I think…ranveer singh almost defeating him…its not his old days when he crushed Jaaneman or Saawariya…add to that both were bad movies while BM was always going to better compared to RS movie..even SOS almost went tooth and nail with JTHJ…add to that srk spoiling his career non stop doing crap movies like ce,jthj,hny and dilwale…yeah ce did great but its hardly good movie…even salman have dabang and bb in between…fan already looks flop…only raees looks interesting…if raees doesn’t turn out to be great he will slip further
The problem with Fan is that it looks like an ad for SRK. We’ve talked about this before. It could still be fine as a film but once again note the problem here. This sort of film might have made much more sense a number of years ago when SRK was actually at his peak. Then this ‘I am a great star’ pitch might have made more sense. This is again a kind of nostalgic deal in that sense. SRK is not able to get away from the ‘I am the king’ paradigm whether it’s Don or Fan or whatever. His ‘different’ stuff has in the recent past more often than not been predicated on this idea. So even with Raees you have a certain kind of gangster. Why can’t SRK just do a script-oriented different film? Note how the one film where he didn’t do this, CDI, actually worked for him. In his earlier career too he was often an underdog. But the same angle becomes problematic in Fan when you have the double and the great star right there. The films might still work but the reason I doubt it is for some of these ‘semiotic’ reasons coupled with SRK’s relatively poorer sense in these matters. Sometimes a film that works well with one star might not be as effective with a different one even if everything else remains the same. Otherwise the Fan trailers are fine. Didn’t really care for Raees at all though.
Fan could turn out to be good movie..but it can turn out to be disaster as well..and from bo point of view I think even if its good it won’t be big success…gives billu barber vibe…Raees to me looks better both critically and commercially…however with srk’s recent year track record who knows, both can turn out to be bad…Will be interesting to see where Ranveer goes from here…he have Aditya Chopra’s next
This will be incomplete without mentioning Kashibai aka PC who brings a certain dignity & control to her part (that ironically had limited options).. PC is one of the most ‘complete’ & competent heroines on the indian screens and she proves it yet again
Deepikas seems a unidimensional role of an ‘obsessed’ lover but it was actually much more than that & she LIVED the role …
As for Bajirao –it was only apt that he could never be killed by his enemies on the warfield but he perished to his own demons & hallucinations
And to give credit to the subject & screenplay, the ambiguity was rightly maintained about what was more instrumental in ending bajirao —
His ‘longing’ for Mastaani or the lingering guilt towards Kashibai..
Bajirao Mastani is a project which had it script locked for a good 10-12 years back. On top of that SLB took a self exile where he hardly did only 2 movies ( Saawariya & Guzaarish ) in good 6/7 years until Ram Leela in 2013 where he again resumed work on Bajirao Mastani. So if the characters are all sketched properly or the tone is even in this movie , then a lot of it has to be due to the time the project has taken even if one were to disregard the drafting and redrafting of the scripts and polishing your product.
This is not the case with Dilwale which more or less came into being early in the year when Fan release had to be stalled either due to reshoot /vfx which yrf teams claims. Dilwale looked hastily done and it’s the Rohit types who could actually get things done at such notice and present the movie within this year and still the movie is not bad and better than HNY at least.
So yes SRK is definitely at fault for wanting to clash at such short notice with a quick fix masala product against a well oiled project in the making for a decade…. but bottom-line is the overall run of the movie (inspite of the scale of BM) will still fall short of Dilwale final run. The numbers and gap is still visible and difference is only due to scale of stardom. Even with a 10 cr Monday BM is at 56 cr. Does one really feel this is Mugle e azam that the crowd will keep coming back here and movie goes on to make 200cr? The movie has found acceptance that is why it will do a 100-110 cr instead of wrapping up at 65-75 cr.
“. Even with a 10 cr Monday BM is at 56 cr. Does one really feel this is Mugle e azam that the crowd will keep coming back here and movie goes on to make 200cr? The movie has found acceptance that is why it will do a 100-110 cr instead of wrapping up at 65-75 cr”
The more noise is about Dilwale not doing well rather than BM doing well again compared to the expectations. That’s about it. Bhansali coming after Saawariya and Guzarish had Ram Leela which did 115 crores. Now, with twice the budget of RL, BM doing same amount is success? People are just comparing the better WOM to a massy RS movie and calling it success conveniently forgetting that it still has to earn money to become a success.. getting better WOM is not going to help Eros, the numbers are not there compared to its budget and scale.
Master if budget is the criterion, then SRK’s Ra-1 lost money with respect to its budget and HNY just made some table profit. Former is a flop budget wise and latter an average at best and so is Devdas, which had a budget of 40 Crores in 2002 and just recovered its investment, yet it’s called a hit. KANK is another one which just recovered its budget, yet a hit!, so with SRK, there are different rules applied for hit and flop or average tag. RDB with budget of 28 Crores and making 53 is just a hit and TZP is just a super hit and CDI a blockbuster with almost the same amount of collection with TZP having lesser budget than CDI!
For me BM had to be a good film to succeed. I don’t know the economics but I’d imagine the way it’s headed it’s a safe proposition…and the actors, director will gain mileage from it.
Possibly even being a poor film D is safe.
But is that really the game SRK is about these days? Just pure economics. Eventually distributors will cry and revolt and he’ll budget a big film and someone won’t pay the price.
I’d rather associate myself with former, far more risk proof. Ultimately everyone reaps success. The latter will leave even the most ardent of fans eventually revolting. I’ve seen many letters of disgruntled fans of SRK on Facebook. He can’t carry on like this for too long.
It takes some effort to break the partnerships for SRK. So, with MNIK, Karan is gone from his life. Then HNY, Farah is gone and now hopefully after D, Rohit will be gone. Future lies with the new crop of directors like Manesh, Dholakia, Gauri Shinde, Anand L Rai etc and how they utilize SRK.
He should have been done with Farah after OSO. But your right it’s hard to play ball with those that helped your career especially if you have fairly average script sense.
I think only Aamir fans started this new trend.. earlier there were actors and they were judge based on that. Aamir Khan( & Salman to an extent) has been hearing story sessions from childhood when his dad used to have story sittings every sunday at his office. He started understanding the the scripts very clearly at an early age.
Fans like actors not their script sense. Just someone not having same script sense doesn’t mean they need not be an actor or popular one at that. Even Amitabh never had a good script sense, same with Madhuri, etc. Still they became huge stars irrespective of that and whenever they get great directors.. they make classics. The same is whenever SRK gets a great script, he will make another CDI or whatever. He’s foremost an actor and huge star. He gave free hand for RS in Dilwale to make his kind of movie whereas he had lot of involvement in CE.
Also, if you look at any interview he would never say that I signed Diwale for the script of something. It was always for the directors.. he signs very few movies for scripts and Fan, Raees being few of them.
agree that most stars have poor script sense. However this matters more in an age where there is a premium on doing a certain kind of prestige film. It didn’t matter as much in the 90s. But your response is a somewhat paradoxical one. If you say you’re happy with whatever he does then you shouldn’t have these other ambitions for him to get grossers as big as anyone else or to enjoy that sort of critical acclaim. Because for those things you do need better script sense. If you’re happy with the list you’ve put up that probably puts you in a group with some of SRK’s competitors. They’re probably happy too that he sticks to this stuff. I’ll say this for myself. Even with Bachchan in his one man industry phase in the 80s, even more dominant in some ways than he was in the 70s I can’t say I’m happy with most of his choices. Because even within very commercial entertainment one prefers the somewhat more meaningful. I’m not crazy to think that stars can just do sensible stuff all the time. But one hopes for a certain mean. At least I can’t subscribe to your very generous view of things where once one becomes a star one does well or not in the right film depending on external factors. One doesn’t have to use one’s mind at all! And to be honest maybe it’s not SRK’s fault at all. When you have fans praising him for getting rich more than anything he does in films, when you have people appreciating his marketing more than content, so on and so forth, why should he change?! I’m not against the marketing. He could do as much as he wishes. It’s just hard to believe that one cannot come up with a better script sometimes. On Dilwale by the way I’m not sure if this was completely Shetty’s call. I think SRK wanted a bigger deal than CE, probably suggested this idea and Shetty might have been willing to go with it. Otherwise Shetty never really trades in nostalgia in this way. I think he could have had a bigger deal than CE. he had the right director. At least to get the right initial going. He just needed a somewhat better script.
Actually, since those CDI days, its been cricket, studios, TV shows, ads, and everything else except movies for him. He probably figured that his time spent in all the rest was more valuable than micromanaging his original ‘actor’ career. So its doubtful he has any remorse as he looks back at year after year of continuous and significant wealth appreciation. With a proven formula that ensures breakeven plus returns even in the worst of his outings, it is doubtful he cares too hoots for the fate of his films now, especially after turning 50. He is probably just counting his blessings and his money, and having fun doing so.
Certainly he’s making money but the adulation of fans is diminishing. He can afford some big flops clearly…but that downward cycle is avoidable. He can essentially do both if not why risk. Just do business. Become Ambani. Make crores. Be the wealthiest man in India.
Let’s just you right. That is pretty sad. And feel sorry for his fans…idolising a star who gives two hoots, filling his own coffers.
Okay, lets see how many Ra.One’s he has given in last decade? HNY was no certainly no Ra.One. What else? Lets see. Yeah if this was Sehwag’s strike rate, he would have been in last year’s world cup! 🙂
Dilwale – Average
HNY – Average
CE – Good
JTHT – Average/slow
DON2 – Good
Ra.One – Bad
MNIK – Good/Average
Rab Ne – Good
OSO – Good
CDI – Good
Don – Good
most of these ratings are quite generous if you ask me. And this is part of the problem. Anything that’s not a disaster is defined as good or average. Well then there really is no problem. Aamir and Salman can keep doing what they are and SRK can keep doing what he is. We can argue about everything but surely those gaps are not debatable. By the way it’s not just about the gross. It’s about truly iconic films as well. Bajrangi for instance means something beyond its gross. Aamir of course has a long history with this stuff. It seems remarkable to me that SRK fans can keep coming up with such lists and saying essentially there’s no problem and yet when some of us try to argue for a guy who has Lagaan, DCH, Fanaa, RDB, TZP, Ghajini, 3I, PK on his resume and whose ‘disappointments’ are a 90 crore Talaash (evidently Dilwale is a hit at 120 if I recall one of the claims here! But then for years now I’ve never quite understood this magical accounting system put forward by the trade! or an MP which in today’s money and following that trending would have done ETT or CE-like business.. not exaggerating in the slightest by the way) somehow we’re going over the top! If this list above is ok, Aamir is not just ahead but in a different universe!
If Shivay is indeed an Eros product, I will not be surprised if Salman true to his nature and due to new found camaraderie with SRK may want to start eating into their profit and teach them a lesson …more so since he was not happy with Eros using his Bajrangi Bhaijaan to cut a deal for BM…….Eros is also a yrf nemesis and since the chips are down at the moment for Eros ( stock market / bankruptcy market news few months back ) this may be a good opportunity to boot them out.
Then again he is too much of Devgn friend to hurt him and clash with Shivay which is dream project for Devgn.
What we know is Salman has halted Sultan shoot due to bad health and it does not help with Eid date keep shifting earlier each year…..so he may want to establish a new ‘sought after’ date for others to start emulating.
I don’t consider this new friendship real in any sense…or rather I don’t see the affection lasting long. And avoiding the clash was a done deal, I pretty much said this after PRDP’s faltering performance that if D underperformed there is no way they will clash to cancel each other out and risk 2 underperformers in a row. Too much pride and money at stake.
Rofl.
Here, 8 shows were alloted for Dilwale on weekdays and 5 to BM, but dilwale shows are already deduced to 4, All of BM shows are intact. https://www.google.com/#q=amc+dublin+village+18
Raghav, you seem obsessed with these bollywood ticket booking sites. I mean we are talking about Hindi movies here……where majority audience still deals in ‘rokda’ i.e hard cash.
This internet booking fad is not widespread and movie going option still on the spur of the moment / impulsive idea for most.
yeah Raghav is a one man army when it comes to Dilwale! I say this with some hesitation because he’ll soon accuse me of being a SRK fan! But here let me make things a little more interesting and feed all paranoias at once.. I’m pretty sure I’ve seen more SRK films more times in the theater than Master!
I understand but if this goes true, many will go faint.
KRK BOX OFFICE @KRKBoxOffice 22m22 minutes ago
#BajiraoMastani collected approx 10Cr on Monday n #Dilwale collected approx 8Cr
And it is possible –
KRK BOX OFFICE @KRKBoxOffice 3m3 minutes ago
Monday- Rajasthan #Dilwale 36Lakhs, #BajiraoMastani 50Lakhs, Punjab-#Dilwale 75lakhs. #BajiraoMastani 85Lakhs.
Dilwale has taken the third best opening Worldwide this year of 145-150 crore. The figures are behind Bajrangi Bhaijaan and Prem Ratan Dhan Payo bot of which had big holidays in the opening weekend. Bajirao Mastani has recorded the fifth best Worldwide figures of the year at 85-90 crore. It is Welcome Back that separates the two films. The top five Worldwide opening weekends of 2015 are as follows.
No film has ever grossed 200 crore Worldwide in the opening weekend but together Dilwale and Bajirao Mastani have easily crossed the 200 crore mark with the combined total to be 230 crore on a worst case scenario.
“No film has ever grossed 200 crore Worldwide in the opening weekend but together Dilwale and Bajirao Mastani have easily crossed the 200 crore mark with the combined total to be 230 crore on a worst case scenario.”
so basically the trade in general has benefited due to this clash.
Best ever domestic weekend was during BB second weekend, when Drishyam first weekend and Baahubali third weekend also performed very well. And combined weekend was 120 cr.
BM + dilwale weekend was 112 cr.
In Overseas, last weekend was the biggest ever with 13 mn , that makes it biggest ever ww weekend.
the rather transparent aim here is to pretend that if only one film had released it would have got that kind of gross. But just because the market can handle such a gross (or something even bigger) doesn’t prove that an audience is completely transferable across films. Many people who might be interested in BM will not watch a Shetty film no matter what. And vice versa. Otherwise we’d have to say that either SOS or JTHJ could have made 215 crores or whatever when those films clashed! And yes your Gadar-Lagaan example is the right one. Note how this logic, ridiculous as it might be, never came up with those earlier clashes!
In one sense the failure of a Shetty film has shocked everyone. this was least expected. But these things happen sometimes. I think there is a larger SRK narrative here which is also problematic as I’ve illustrated earlier. However if one refuses to see the obvious and if one keeps making excuses for every new underperformer or failure or even hit that doesn’t reach the highest levels these things follow. Ultimately it’s not about how we debate these things here. It’s about what’s actually happening out there. The numbers are there for all to see. Incidentally I’m not just saying this about Dilwale. PRDP performed very poorly, people expected this to be a 300 crore grosser, some thought it would outdo Bajrangi. It will short by a 100 crores at the very least. It even did less than Kick. You can’t then try for a consolation prize once this happens. Or with Bajrangi you had a Salman film more loved than anything else he’s done probably since Dabanng, it did very well, and that still wasn’t enough to get to PK. Now one can get into all sorts of excuses and what not. Except that these always seem to come up after the event, never before. If you start with the proposition that ‘if Aamir can get to a number then Salman and SRK can too and it’s only a question of the right film and the right date’ well then you have to explain why a number of films couldn’t do this for years (till inflation became a big enough factor). Finally it’s a bit odd to also claim that films that fail are bad films. As if there are some stars who get historic hits doing terrible stuff!
Dilale First Monday Business
Tuesday 22 December 2015 09.30 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
Dilwale fell 55% on Monday as compared to Friday which is a bit more than the normal drop. Also with less business consumed on the weekend due to the clash the weekday trend should be better than normal. The business of Dilwale over the first four days is as follows.
The first week business will probably be around 95 crore nett and then remains to be seen how well can it do in Xmas week but with this Monday drop a real big number is out of the question.
Bajirao Mastani Is Very Steady On Monday
Tuesday 22 December 2015 09.30 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
Bajirao Mastani was very steady on Monday dropping just 15% on its first Monday as comapred to Friday. The hold was similar all in most circuits but Mumbai leads with 21 crore nett apprx business as it has held from higher levels. The business of Bajirao Mastaani over the first four days is as follows.
The weekend growth did not suggest this type of hold on Monday but that is probably as the film could not show optimum growth due to competition from Dilwale which scored over the weekend. The first week business should go to around 80 crore nett plus and the film should be able to take benefit of holiday period next weekend.
Looks like Dilwale is going to do very underwhelming business. The trending is poor and even 130cr may prove to be tough now.
To sum up SRK’s position, just look at the top 20 grossers (inflation unadjusted). Dilwale will only be his third movie to get into that list (if it does). CE and HNY are his only two notable grossers.
Aamir and Salman are in the 300cr club and they are operating at different levels. And Salman has 8 movies among those top 20 grossers. Aamir sets the benchmark while Salman has the volume and consistency. SRK is lagging far behind.
BM is all set to takeover Dilwale in the coming few weeks. It will be a rude shock for SRK and his fans. Its not that the movie is crap, its just that the negativity against SRK and his movies is unbelievable now. His comments on intolerance and repeated pro Pak comments have pissed off a lot of movie going audience. Feedback on Facebook and Whats up is nasty. Remember, Aamir is next in line. His recent statements on intolerance and leaving India bullshit have not gone down well with large section of young population. Sooner or later, Aamir will meet the same fate unless he course corrects.
I think D is not such a bad movie. And it is not a terrific movie.
Even PRDP did not do too well inspite of Salman Khan and his father being overfriendly with the establishment. The intolerance debate is limited to only certain areas and other areas like West Bengal will compensate. India is a big country with diversity. There is a grudge against the 3 Khans in certain quarters nowadays and they are rooting for non khans in a big way. Ultimately a film has to be liked. No one can force others to watch a particular movie to make a point.
The grudge against the Khans has started long back and their success at the top for such a long time is also annoying their competitors. Akshay and Ranbir and Ranveer can give good competition and end their reign. Afterall the Khans are getting old.
Yes I agree. there is a lot of hatred towards “Khans” and specifically SRK and Aamir and it is quite obvious from the lies that are spread through whatsapp about Khans… but it does not affect the business of movies because the target audience of such messages would not have anyways seen the film.
such blatant lies sometimes may even be helping the business of Khan movies because some people after reading such messages may just decide to watch the movie out of sympathy. so to say that the intolerance debate/hatred may have affected the Dilwale business isnt correct.
There is definitely a big backlash against him on social media, but doubtful that the average moviegoer is out to spite SRK for his immature rhetoric. Rather, people have got tired of these brainless potboilers now. People would rather spend their hard earned money to watch something that stays in their minds when they walk out of the theater. Brainless re-hash of different props (eg Shetty fetish for rolling out bright cars and blowing them up!) and mindless comedy/action does not count any more. We’ ve had enough of it. The Monday figures showing BM beating Dilwale is testament to this new reality. When people had a choice to see something more meaningful, they went for it.
The truth is these so called superstars assume themselves to be demigods once they reach certain level and start behaving like all knowing and all pervading judgmental messiahs and keep passing comments that are substandard or offensive. Above all they supplement one another when faced with public outrage. There is always a limit for public acceptance of this kind of nonsensical utterances. For all its drawbacks, India is the best place for everyone to coexist. There is no Utopian country in the world which is problem free. These superstars give their invaluable opinions to majority community and their religion only. They keep their 9 holes shut when it involves other communities and issues relating to other religions. That will eventually make people piss off. Freedom and freedom of speech is to be used with the same yardstick for everyone. Otherwise they will be remembered as idiotic dumb heads who possess brains of bedbugs.
Just try to re-read the stuff you have written as that is neither sane nor rational!! You are pretending as if you are “Omniscient” and “Infallible” and never in your whole life committed any mistake so to speak and also condescending tone towards “Khans” as if they are beggars and you are the “Philanthropist” who has been supporting them to lead their “Opulent” life!! Your malicious feelings against a specific community can easily be read through in your vitriolic comments against “Khans”. Khans are popular only and only for single reason that they are better than the rest of their competitors and their popularity has nothing to do with their surnames as Art or any skill doesn’t differentiate on the basis of Religion, cast, colour or ethnicity, but people like you are hell-bent upon creating the rift where there is none!!
Let’s presume for a moment if it were Akshay Kumar in place of Aamir Khan, would the negativity and hatred have been same and would he also have to face “go to Pakistan” kind of comments?? As long as Aamir would keep mum and continue his support for Modi, he is a “Model” to be emulated, but the moment he raised some uncomfortable questions, he is a “Traitor and Pakistani”. As long as Aamir keeps delivering Sarfarosh, Lagaan, MP, RDB, TZP, 3 Idiots, SMJ, he is genuine and “Rashtra Bhakt”. Let’s not discredit all his past contribution and question his sincerity and genuineness just because we don’t subscribe to his set of views!!
I never mentioned anybody by name. If the intolerant rants are uttered by Kumars, Bachhans or Kapoors they will also get the same reply from me. No body is infallible. We are humans. I never say to an Indian to go and live in some other country when I pretty well know that other countries have their own failings. Your first paragraph says that I have hatred towards somebody but that is utter rubbish and you have a problem of understanding English sentences. I am proud of every Indian who contributes for this Nation. But when Individuals who are benefited by the generosity of a Nation and its citizens, start abusing the same Nation for their own personal agendas, then as a citizen of the same Nation I have a right to point out their fallibility.The so called superstars whether it is Amitabh, SRK, Amir, Salman, Akshay or Hrithik start misusing their stardom and pursue their personal agendas that is detrimental to the Nation then one can express his views. They should be more responsible than a common citizen like you and me when they utter their views because that is widely covered and more chane of creating impact. As for as your reply to me, i am not offended as it is your understanding that has a problem but not my writing. Read again my previous post and chill.Truth always hurts and bitter truth hurts bitterly. These stars are intolerant towards the Nation but I never said anything intolerant towards them. By the way, doing a Lagaan, Sarfarosh, MP, RDB, TZP, 3 Idiots, SMJ dose not give anyone a license to utter nonsensical rubbish that comes through his mind.
Sometimes we say things which we do not mean it in a bad way. When he said those words, he must have said it as a concerned Indian and not as a concerned muslim. Many hindus also say that and most of the awardwapsi folks are hindus. If I criticise my parents which I did sometimes, it does not mean that I dont love them or I want to leave them.
Man, you need to take your frustrations somewhere else. This blog is not to just come every time to rant your political opinions.. no one is interested in them. Folks talk here about movies and then get diverted into political discussions once in a while(unlike you). Yes, you don’t like any of the Khans, we get it.. now move on.
“They keep their 9 holes shut when it involves other communities and issues relating to other religions”. Who wrote this sentence and which community are you referring to?? Don’t conceal your hatred as it is good to release “suppressed sentiments” lying long as it can hurt your well being both mentally and physically 🙂 And what do you mean by intolerant towards the Nation as if they are found guilty of “Treason” and “Rioting”!! And your generosity bit is very intricate as i had already asked you by watching their movies ” Are you doing any charity to them??” And i hope this very “Truth” doesn’t hurt you 🙂
It’s been a long while that Salman Khan has been shooting continuously for his upcoming movie ‘Sultan’. The actor has been seen juggling shoots between ‘Sultan’ and ‘Bigg Boss Nau’ due to which he hasn’t got anytime to spend by himself.
Recently, we reported about the wrap up of the first schedule of ‘Sultan’ and now we hear that the team will have to postpone the second schedule as the actor isn’t keeping too well.
As per reports in a leading daily, Salman has cancelled the second schedule due to health issues. The second portion involved shooting for some solid wrestling scenes but since the actor wanted to rest and be fit for the rigorous shooting sessions it had to be pushed forward.
However, the makers are yet to finalize the leading actress of the film and the hunt is still on for the suitable match to be cast opposite Salman.
‘Sultan’ directed by Ali Abbas Zafar stars Salman Khan in the lead role and is all set to hit the big screens in Eid 2016.
This will be incomplete without mentioning Kashibai aka PC who brings a certain dignity & control to her part (that ironically had limited options).. PC is one of the most ‘complete’ & competent heroines on the indian screens and she proves it yet again
Deepikas seems a unidimensional role of an ‘obsessed’ lover but it was actually much more than that & she LIVED the role …
As for Bajirao –it was only apt that he could never be killed by his enemies on the warfield but he perished to his own demons & hallucinations
And to give credit to the subject & screenplay, the AMBIGUITY was rightly depicted about the CONLFICT as to what was MORE instrumental in ending bajirao —
His ‘LONGING’ (& TABOO LOVE) for Mastaani
OR
the LINGERING GUILT towards Kashibai..
Finally
Feel VINDICATED seeing the positive response by the paying public …( they’ve responded better than I expected)
Aandhi roke to hum toofan,
toofan roke to hum AAG Ka dariya
🙂
@Anti-feminist satyam, i know even after my multiple requests, you didnt create post for Jai Gangaagal’s first poster, but here is trailer and you know priyanka has many times spoken, she is srk fan and also prakash jha has never been in conflict with srk. I hope atleast this inspires you to create a thread for trailer atleast.
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@Satyam, Just because this is female lead, no separate post for this. I cant believe this is happening here.
When Don and DON2 came suddenly, every srk fans becomes priyanka and start praising here mediocre performance blindly, separate post for her single absurd comment. Now, they all ignore it.
Absolutely, just because she is in opposite film, forget a kind word, even her first look and trailer are ignored by srk fans and sympathizer. So much, intolerance.
Btw Here is the complete list of winners from star dust awards with some ridiculous categories:
Best Costume Design- Niharika Khan (Bombay Velvet)
Best Screenplay- Varun Grover (Masaan)
Best Story-Sriram Raghavan and Arijit Biswas (Badlapur)
**@Satyam, Just because this is female lead, no separate post for this. I cant believe this is happening here.**
Raghav, have you ever paused to consider that for the moderator of a free-for-all blog, it might not be a full time job?? That Satyam may have parents, wife, kids, taxes, and unpaid parking tickets to pay? Or worse still, he might be checking out both D and BM in theaters to figure out what the hell’s this kinder-garten blood-bath going on here on his blog regarding box-office baniyagiri between ‘fans’ and something called human beings?
Ha! Thanks for that note An Jo. Since Raghav follows the bookings for every single show he probably assumes everyone has his kind of time. On the film I did see the link he put up but I don’t know if this is a significant film, who’s making it and so on. Don’t know anything about it. Of course I don’t put up posts on every single film. But if there’s something noteworthy here I will.
Rohit Shetty: Not ‘Bajirao Mastani’, but ban affected Dilwale’s collection
The 41-year-old director said he was always prepared for the face off with Sanjay Leela Bhansali’s ‘Bajirao Mastani’. “We all were aware that ‘Dilwale’ and ‘Bajirao Mastani’ are coming together, so, I was prepared for that competition and the harm we will give each other. But I think what affected the Friday and Saturday collections were the ban in Rajasthan and MP. “Almost 40 per cent of the theaters were not showing the film and we resumed on Sunday morning… It’s all mathematics, how many theaters we are running in we will get the collections according to that,” Rohit told PTI. The “Chennai Express” helmer thinks bans are the outcome of “misunderstanding” and if dealt with patience things can be settled out easily.
How much 40% theatres of Rajasthan and MP contributes ? Even best performing movies collects around 2 Crore combined .. so 40% is like 80 lakhs, that too if collections are like Dhoom-3 or PK …. In case of Dilwale, even if we believe on 40% shows cancelled, loss is not more than 35-40 lakhs.
I think folks on here are turning a blind eye to everything about Dilwale and wants to believe that suddenly 1 day Indian audience has developed taste and they decided to not watch regular commercial Rohit Shetty-SRK-Kajol movie and hence its doing bad. I mean, can the movie be flop even when released solo and without issues? YES, ofcourse. But if you tell me that no external factors contributed and suddenly none of them came to watch the movie on 1st weekend itself, its hard to believe. Indian masses doesn’t have that evolved taste to ignore a movie like Dilwale on 1st day. I think every site out there has said Dilwale to be the most red-hot SRK film in years and then not opening well coz of the content is BS. I don’t any of the reviews or feedback is so bad so that the movie falls on 1st day itself or doesn’t open. Even the folks who watched never predicted this.
As a general assumption, we all know regular movie audience doesn’t care about political situation and don’t really boycott movies but times are changing I’ve seen too many folks in real life who are doing it now. You see folks like Jayadev popping up here all the time who would not spend $1 on any of these Khan movies.
what happened with Jai Ho? every Salman film before or after has opened big irrespective of director. What happened with this one all of a sudden? As for whether people are playing up the negativity or putting up comments cynically that’s a different debate. That’s not one on the facts of the film. Forget all the chatter. Whatever is happening with the film is unexpected for sure (I certainly didn’t expect this even in the worst case scenario). However these things happen sometimes. There are lots of solos that collapse when they’re not liked. The other assumption you’re making is that only films that are hated do poorly. that’s not true either. When that happens you have Besharam. A lot of flops are just films that the majority of the audience either didn’t like or found very average. That’s enough to explain the numbers. In some of the other cases huge initials express a greater level of interest but those films still fall as fast. A point I’ve made for years. But unexpected things happen for different reasons. Maybe the whole SRK-Kajol thing reached a tipping point for the audience. Maybe they just found it too stale. Maybe it didn’t generate enough interest. I can say that for years I’ve seen this sort of anecdotal evidence from SRK fans (forget others) who feel he’s old, that he’s not reinvented himself and so on. The numbers are there for all to see when you compare with Salman or Aamir. But SRK had enough of a base and enough of a history to nonetheless generate big initials in the right project. But again people weren’t focusing on what thee projects were. Dilwale hasn’t come out of nowhere. It’s certainly surprising that this has happened with a Shetty film. But the idea that this combo was simply killed by BM is a little absurd don’t you think? In other words if that is true SRK must not have been very big in the first place! I just think people have avoided the tea leaves here for a while. The media has kept spinning as has the trade. The fans have been blind (like other fans). But even if you don’t want to accept any of this there’s no great mystery here. A surprise yes but not a mystery. Even the most successful directors have failures. With SRK the problem is that that big one that just matches up with the biggest of his contemporaries continues to elude him. And this has been true for 8-9 years at the very least as far as I can tell. The lists are there for all to see. If one wants to just go by day 1 numbers or week 1 numbers on some of his biggest films and extrapolate from there that’s another matter. No one’s denying he’s not an important star. But this is a relative game. Hrithik has been a huge star from day 1. He’s just never outpaced whoever was ahead of him. Things stagnated for him beyond a point. He can still get huge openings. But that’s not the end of the debate.
Master: the media always tries to pump up fake hype, but can you honestly tell me that everyone was excited about Dilwaale prior to release? It seemed stale and passé– don’t forget that most cinema viewers today were kids or perhaps not even born the last time srk and kajol showed up together — the idea that the audience was just pining for this re-staging of a “classic” pairing was just bull to begin with. He’s had a good run but is demonstrably not the top Hindi film star anymore, and hasn’t been for the better part of a decade. If he doesn’t learn from this the returns will diminish further — and now if he is desperately casting about for a communal angle then he’s clearly not learning the right lessons (or knows that his core fanbase is also deluded).
Qalandar: All what you said will make sense *IF* Dilwale had opened to 50%. But it has opened over 85% with some protests on Fri & Sat and on Sunday when it was settled it reached 90% with 24 crores out of 26 max capacity.
Also, this was not only promoted on SRK-Kajol and Varun Dhawan (younger demographics) was prominently present through out movie and promotions.
“How can a film score 24crore with 90% occupancy and only 21crore after opening at 85% and growing through the day?
Is rakesh roshan father Xmas again?”
Am talking about the 1st day whole opening. You can’t possibly be serious with percentages errors here. Ignore that and then you will understand the point which is it has not opened so bad like Jai Ho or other movies.
“what happened with Jai Ho? every Salman film before or after has opened big irrespective of director. What happened with this one all of a sudden? As for whether people are playing up the negativity or putting up comments cynically that’s a different debate. That’s not one on the facts of the film. Forget all the chatter. Whatever is happening with the film is unexpected for sure (I certainly didn’t expect this even in the worst case scenario).”
Jai Ho was simply too long in the making with multiple delays and very poor looking product besides downmarket leading lady and negative reputation of Sohali Khan. Also, the only Salman film which didn’t release either on Eid, Diwali or Christmas in years. It opened to 60 cr weekend on 4500 screens and wrapped up at 110 cr. On other hand, Dilwale opened to 65 cr weekend with 2600 screens.
I’m not sure what your argument really is Master. At one end you seem to argue it didn’t do well because of all kinds of factors from the clash to his comments. On the other hand you also keep suggesting that the opening is pretty good all things considered. Both can’t be true.
I think the comments had something to do with it but the main thing is SRK’s persona had been wearing thin for a while and this was the last straw on the camel’s back.
His arrogance, shenaninagans, the lack of humility, cozying upto media, all kinds of antics on stage shows, his politics has been rubbing the people the wrong way. Of all INdians from various parts of country that I know all seem to be apathetic to him. Kind of fed up.
I get a sense that Dilwale may not be that bad a film. Without the clash and without these general public’s sense of being fed up with SRK , it might have done quite well.
I feel sorry for him but if he doesn’t learn a lesson, he is going to sink very rapidly.
rajen1: what you said has been the general consensus all over and even NyKavi and others have made that point. Dilwale as a movie is not that bad but its the full on negativity in the public(outside of movies) which is the major reason. Yes, opening weekend was good that is coz of die hard fans but if general public won’t come then, the movie can’t collect more.
Even the person who hates SRK the most..
@PrakashJaaju
#Dilwale is not bad but #BajiraoMastani & public agitation usko khaa gaye.
I’ll repeat an older point. I too think it’s probably a one time watch. But many ‘not bad’ films flop. The idea that only terrible ones do is a myth. Much as if a film is utterly hated by the audience then you get an even worse result.
In this situation one has to make one excuse or the other. Of course if one follows this logic BM isn’t an issue at all! Then one can’t use competition as an excuse. But unless a film is banned in a massively important state like Gujarat (like Fanaa was.. and even if no one cared about some of these issues then when initials were calculated.. when some of us mentioned these things people used to either laugh at us or ignore them.. but then I could say the same for competition and trending and what not!) which has not only some very important centers but also a very major city that is among the top 3-4 grossing cities in the country (for Hindi films). As for these bans, limited or whatever, these aren’t the difference between let’s say 200 and wherever the film is going to end up. It’s safe to say that unless the film really stabilizes at some point it is on path to do not much better than Ra One, all things considered. Or at least a significant failure. The kind of gross where all these reasons go out the window. Because these are about marginal things one way or the other. And again some of the ban stuff is being exaggerated anyway.
Superstar Shah Rukh Khan today admitted that that his statements regarding ‘intolerance’ were misunderstood and had an adverse impact on the box-office performance of his latest release ‘Dilwale’ in some parts of India.
Shah Rukh received a lot of flak across the nation for his comments, with many urging viewers to boycott his upcoming movie ‘Dilwale’. SRK had maintained that the people demanding the ban or boycott were “opportunists”.
Now, that ‘Dilwale’ has released and the movie’s business in India has slowed down, SRK has said that collections have been affected because he was misunderstood. “I have been misunderstood many times. It upsets me that I haven’t been able to express my views in a better way. I apologise if my statements have hurt anyone,” he said.
“The film’s performance has been impacted in some parts of the country. But I can’t understand that why people are upset with something which aims at spreading happiness,” he added.
The actor also expressed his disappointment for misinterpretations of his views “I have received immense love from people of all religions. It deeply saddens me that despite being a true citizen of the country, I was misunderstood,” he said.
yeah it’s unfortunate he’s jumping on to this excuse.. but such cynicism is par for the course for him.. Isn’t it easy to blame everything but the product?
I don’t like this line of defense that Shahrukh has taken for the non-performance of his film. It suggests a certain religion based consolidation of a fan-base, and I not only think that such is no the case but to suggest it is also a putting forth of a disturbing brand of politics. Not done.
agree completely.. this confirms the worst narratives in more ways than one. And people wonder why I dislike his politics offscreen more often than not. This is a classic exhibit. Yes everyone provides excuses for films failing but surely you shouldn’t use these sorts of excuses. The stakes are just too high. And isn’t this an insult to precisely the audience that has loved you for years. that they were so upset with your statements that they boycotted you en masse! Of course that doesn’t explain why the film even got 21 crores or whatever on day 1! Something many here found fine at the time! PK opened to 26 on day one without competition. So this is just grasping at straws. Whether one agreed with his original comments or not (and I didn’t have much of a problem with them even if I can never completely trust SRK on these issues) these are beyond the pale. In the vast liberal media circles of India he was totally defended for those remarks. It’s impossible to believe that the vast majority of his multiplex audience had a problem with them. Aamir got a much stronger reaction for his comments. So this whole stuff is just bull. Maybe on the margins some people were pissed off with him but that’s not why the film’s collections were affected. And do you know who’ll agree with his comments here? Precisely the hard right who’ll say ‘see what happens when you go against your country or the ‘majority’ who’s made you a star all these years’!
It’s called disillusioned and sour grapes. He’s losing his charm and as many crores he has the love of the people matters more. You can’t buy that with flying cars and rekindling old love stories.
If indeed he has said this, it is disgusting in its cynicism, and in the megalomania and narcissism it reveals (there can’t be an ordinary reason for an under-performer, there has to be an extraordinary reason). As some of us have been saying for years, he is simultaneously addicted to the “King Khan” trope as well as the victim-trope, and doesn’t seem to appreciate that the two don’t sit well together (the trope of victim, can, of course, play into the Muslim minority’s sense of grievance, but for SRK to try and piggy-back on this is deeply inauthentic, as GF might say “unearned”). I only hope that liberals in the media don’t jump on this bandwagon (as they are uncritically wont to do), because nothing discredits progressive politics more than this toxic combination of imbecility and cynicism.
PS — I had hoped for a happier comment to mark my return to this blog after a long absence (haven’t seen Dilwale and don’t intend to, but everyone I know who has seen it seems to have disliked it) but I guess that was too much to hope for 🙂
Let me tell you beforehand.. I don’t think this source is trustworthy.. so I would wait till the news comes out on credible sources. This appears to be mix of many articles put together as a new article.
If you read the article, he’s still talking about the protests and bans(which they have said other sources as well and even Rohit Shetty said) impact but the sources summarizes as Intolerance comment impacted Boxoffice.
This is a stupid statement by srk. The movie was not affected more than 3 crs due to the protests which it would have made up had it been good. More importantly he is playing into the hands of these right wingers who will think they actually affected the movie and wil continue this non sense in the future too
In terms of effect, however, Bajirao Mastani has the potential to do for Maratha ‘history’ what Mughal-e-Azam did for Mughal ‘history’.
There is the troubling aspect of religion and gender intersectionality in the film. Because she is half-Muslim, Mastani can be acceptable only as a courtesan in a royal Brahmanical household. She can be a sex object, but not a wife. She is given respectability only because of her character’s archetypal association with Radha, Lord Krishna’s beloved.
The film also obliquely casts a critical glance at the condition of a wife in the domestic sphere. The autumnal look of Bajirao’s mother who is permanently dressed in a white sari and has her head shaved reveals the subtext of the treatment of widows in the 18th century.
In one romantic moment in the film Bajirao says that Mastani’s name will remain an integral part of his name. Sanjay Leela Bhansali, a filmmaker and not a historian, has put a permanent seal on his words by making Bajirao Mastani.
“suddenly 1 day Indian audience has developed taste and they decided to not watch regular commercial Rohit Shetty-SRK-Kajol movie and hence its doing bad. ” No. Their tastes havent changed. They just decided to not watch regular commercial Rohit Shetty-SRK-Kajol movie that is fake from the word go and offers nothing that excites. That ias why it si doing bad. Period.
well said utkal and good points from satyam,
shetty is just excusing the failure of the film,its the concept which has failed and the surge from BM also contributed,everyone expected that dilwale will have initial burst then it will depend on the film how good it is,also BM was always an underdog when clashing against srk film unless it was sallu or amir khan in which case dilwale would not have made numbers what it did against BM,shetty should take it on the chin and face the failures as he has faced the hits and faced it….its the old trick in the book in every aspects,when you team loses the ref or umpire ruined it …same here the film failed and thats the basic of it…
I think SRK will overcome this anyways but I think RS should be worried with the next project is Ram Lakhan remake with Karan Johar. That can turn out to be disaster if there isn’t right cast and undue comparison with the original. He pulled off with Golmaal but Ram-Lakhan is still bigger hit and remembered till now. I saw some reactions during Hero remake.
it’s not about remakes as much. if you make a half enjoyable film you get the initial and no one holds the original against you. the cross-section that does is relatively small. On BB said this some days ago too but I think that’s his best film in this larger than life genre. Otherwise there’s ATB, a bit stagey but better than most of his other stuff. Singham was fine too but the politics was problematic here and this was in any case a remake.
srk needs to be careful as his next releases is 4 months away,fan & raees both look promising…one debacle will not hurt him but to be in contention with other two khans he will need a major break through in one of his releases,one blockbuster and he is right back in it..
The best thing out of this is that SRK’s most interesting movie – FAN- is coming up right after. Imagine Farah’s HNY or something similar was in place after this movie.. that would have been disastrous. Fan even though will not be huge grosser has the ”potential” to be best critic friendly movie and genuine audience liking movie in years!
First of all let me express my disappointment with many in the forum who acted no better than people like Taran or Komal who make their predictions like colouring by numbers: Rohit Shetty, Srk-Kajol, audience-friendly genre, so superhit. What crap! Please open your eyes. See what’s on offer. Then judge.
Let me just summarize some of the things I had said earlier about Dilwale.
1. The nostalgia for SRK-Kajol Jodi is limited only to a small segment of the audience. MNIK didn’t exactly set the screen on fire, did it? And that was quite some years back. Both of them added quite a few wrinkles and oodles of ennui in the meanwhile.
2. And what is this Gerua song? Who wants to see two middle-aged (actually one of them a little older than that) stars romance like twenty-somethings? Of course there are a few loonies. But I guess not enough to fill more than a few shows in theatres.
3. I knew Rohit Shetty was totally uninspired and just going through the motion when I saw the Manma Jaage song. It was as fake as Gerua. There was no youthful spirit, no chemistry, no fun. Is anyone even talking about the song? Or even Varun Dhawan or Kirti Sonan?
4. Rohit Shetty’s forte is a sense of absurd fun and a feeling of joi-de-vivre. I didnt find a single funny line in the trailer. Tell me why should I venture into the theatre?
5. And what’s all that Iceland-Photoshop crap! It made the film look fake from the word go. Just contrast that against Chennai Express. It was so earthy and rooted. Instead of Iceland it chose Chennai, Goa and Kerala. Bigger is not always better.
6. Look at the spirit of Chennai Express. Lungi Dance was a lark, with the opening words ‘Moochhon ko thoda round ghumake I Anna ke jaisa chashma lagake I Coconut me lassi milake
I Aa jaao sare mood banake’ it set the mood and got you into its groove. I have seen countless kids and adults perform the number on stage in social and corporate functions. Now ‘ Tukur Tukur’ what was that?
7. Actually Rohit Shetty lifted his game a few notches in Chennai Express. Takea song like ‘ One-Two-Three-Four’. The tendency in a masala film would be to use it as a sleazy or raunchy number like say Munnu Badnam Hui. But no. Shetty resists the temptation. He gives us whole some fun a-la Manmohan Desai. Priya Mani is not used as a sex symbol, but as a rambunctious power-keg of fun and frolic. Look at the words: “Ho aankh bhi, jaane kaahe I Phadke meri phadke meri baayi I Kundali me ho jaise ulti dasha ulti dasha aayi”. Fun stuff. I did not find anything remotely close in Dilwale.
8. And most importantly, Chennai Express had soul. Meenakshiamma gets into your heart. And Deepika in a Kerala white sari makes your heart skip like no designer clothes of Kajol can. And there is zillion times more romance in a Shahrukh carrying Deepika up the 300 steps ofa temple than SRK-Kajol parodying the DDLJ poses.
9. Basically the film started as a project and not as a script. And that’s never a good idea.
( Disclaimer: All this is based on the trailers and the songs. I haven’t seen the film and have no intention of seeing it.)
Well, Utkal sir.. you have extreme opinions but no issues at all. Just some corrections.
“1The nostalgia for SRK-Kajol Jodi is limited only to a small segment of the audience. MNIK didn’t exactly set the screen on fire, did it?”
True but MNIK is not a love story.. and SRK-Kajol doing a love story its been decades now. MNIK doesn’t count(ignoring that its an offbeat movie compared to KJo’s standards).
“6.Look at the spirit of Chennai Express. Lungi Dance was a lark, with the opening words ‘Moochhon ko thoda round ghumake I Anna ke jaisa chashma lagake I Coconut me lassi milake”
SRK shot this movie without even telling Rohit shetty or Vishal-Shekhar with Honey Singh. That was the whole issue between VS and Honey Singh and VS no longer with SRK.
“7. Actually Rohit Shetty lifted his game a few notches in Chennai Express. Takea song like ‘ One-Two-Three-Four’. The tendency in a masala film would be to use it as a sleazy or raunchy number like say Munnu Badnam Hui. But no. Shetty resists the temptation. He gives us whole some fun a-la Manmohan Desai. Priya Mani is not used as a sex symbol, but as a rambunctious power-keg of fun and frolic. Look at the words: “Ho aankh bhi, jaane kaahe I Phadke meri phadke meri baayi I Kundali me ho jaise ulti dasha ulti dasha aayi”. Fun stuff. I did not find anything remotely close in Dilwale.
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SRK reshot this song after that Delhi gangrape case. It might look silly but its actually true that song has been reshot and made family friendly and not an sexy item song.
“9.Basically the film started as a project and not as a script. And that’s never a good idea.”
Nope, this is incorrect. Kajol came last and she wasn’t in the options at any stage. Katrina was in talks. Also, Rohit Shetty mentioned, if we managed to get Kajol I’ll call it Dilwale if we dont’ get Kajol we’ll name it something else.
Even if it was planned with Katrina itw as still a project. I dont bother about how certain things happened while making the film. I am interested in what I see on screee, Chennai Express has soul, is earthy n down to earth and is crazy fun. Dilwale looks likea project….nevermind how it was actually made.
The final notice has now been posted on the Rhythm House website that the shop is closing down and the online business is going. It feels like reading an obituary notice as this old friend has been part of my bond with Indian cinema and the city of Mumbai, in particular this area of town where I risk my life as a determined pedestrian. I’ve been shopping at Rhythm House for 25 years, using it as a major resource for my research on Hindi cinema and getting to know its red-jacketed staff. My sadness is not purely personal as this also marks a shift for all of us who work on and in Mumbai, albeit one we knew was long coming as shopping practices change with the growth of malls and changes in film viewing practices and media consumption.
This and the recent closure of Merwan, which opened again thanks to petitions and because there were no buyers, is really one of the many landmarks of the city’s history giving way to new. even the roads seem so unfamiliar! incidentally, my wife, whose office is in the vicinity, purchased an LP of Deewar’s dialogues as a reminder and souvenir purchase from the shop before it shuts.
Very sad indeed — this was perhaps the last music store in Bombay, and during my five years in the city I visited many many times. I am glad you mention the staff — so knowledgeable!!!
Qalandar glad to see you after a long while 🙂 Yesterday i was thinking of posting a comment with respect to your take on this entire “Intolerant” debate and backlash SRK and Aamir have received and here you appeared and commented, what luck!! Still luckier if you and abzee2kin can present your take on the whole issue. Thanks in advance 🙂
In the re-runs section I decided to put up a piece on MeA. Somewhat relevant with all the BM comparisons. I am generally a naysayer on the film but I try to point out some of its virtues here. I’ve also reintroduced something on Shetty, a Qalandar review on BB.
The only thing I really enjoy here is Prithivraj Kapoor’s thundering (and stagey) performance. And I don’t like Dilip Kumar’s ‘sullen’ act here at all.
Dilip Kumar once famously mentioned that MEA is possibly the only movie he was hesitant to sign and regretted as he was not playing the leading role in the movie. The title role belonged to Prithviraj Kapoor!
he certainly had the lead role, the idea that he didn’t is a bit strange. Prithviraj has a pivotal role for sure, it’s not a supporting part but the film really revolves around Salim-Anarkali’s love story.
” but the film really revolves around Salim-Anarkali’s love story.”
Again.. incorrect. It starts with Akbar longing for his son.. praying for his son’s birth.. then son being born (granting 1 wish to servant girl).. then seeing his son becoming irresponsible.. sending him away to become worth successor and when he returns he falls in love with servant girl.. he again opposes that as a king, he cant’ do that.. and tries to kill Anarkali. But actually does the sacrifice(for the wish granted to the servant girl) and sends her away but still taking the blame infront of kingdom that he stopped and killed the servant girl. Its all about Akbar – Mughal – E -Azam.
Then, isn’t that the protagonist role? You also have the whole graph of story on Akbar besides naming the movie and also ending the movie with Akbar. They didn’t even care to show Salim’s reaction when Anarkali is taken. Besides, its just not me.. even Dilip Kumar feels he wasn’t the lead actor in the movie.
Dont worry, srkians. Here is update on Gurgaon and cheer that dilwale fell only by 13.5% on tuesday, didnt crash 🙂
And BM fell only by 0.075% -> which is negligible.
with all the praise and positive words on BM…will have to check it out. Everything about BM was a turn off for me…the director…the lead actors. But I love a good historical film…so will have to watch this one.
yeah I must say that it’s hard to make it to the theater for a Bhansali film.. still I might have been somewhat tempted here after the reviews but for Ranveer Singh. I could still watch it as soon as I clear my other backlog first or if another chance arises. Still haven’t seen Star Wars! also have to check out the Tarantino (will be out soon). A few others similarly. Will say though that I’d still be surprised if I really liked BM.
Bollywood superstar Shahrukh Khan on Tuesday maintained that he had not said anything which merited an apology, but regretted that the box office collection of his film “Dilwale” was adversely affected due to protests by those who “misinterpreted” and “misconstrued” his comments on intolerance in the country.
“I have not said anything that I should apologise (for). I will fall in my own eyes if I do that,” Shahrukh said at a media meet to promote his latest film “Dilwale”.
Agonised over protests against the film, Shahrukh said it made him sad when his work did not reach the people as that was the only way he could return the people’s “love” for him, and appealed to his fans to watch and enjoy the movie.
Shahrukh said his comments on the intolerance issue was not represented properly.
“At some point of time, I do regret people could not understand what I said. It was not represented properly. If anybody feels bad about it, I regret it completely.
“I just want to wish that all the people who wish to see the film on their own, please go out and see it. Don’t get misled by people who perhaps misconstrued what I am saying, so I regret that this has happened. I feel extremely sad,” Shahrukh said.
“I apologise if somebody got disturbed, please go out and enjoy the film because it’s not me, there are thousands who have made it with a lot of love.”
“(It’s) too hard for me to understand why something that we make for your happiness would somehow turn into something that becomes controversial or tainted.”
Angered by Shahrukh’s statement on ‘religious intolerance’, Bajrang Dal activists opposed the film’s screening in Araria and Patna districts of Bihar. Protests also took place in Ghaziabad, Varanasi, Jabalpur and many places in Rajasthan.
The 50-year-old actor was clad in a black suit, and was accompanied by his “Dilwale” co-star Kajol, who was wearing a black saree.
Shahrukh said the ‘intolerance’ controversy has hit box-office collections of the movie in some parts of the country.
“I can’t deny the fact that I’ve been reading messages on Whatsapp. I’ve been reading messages on social media, and even on ground that there has been activity all over the country, where the film has been stopped, and not allowed.
“Yes, box office collections have been hit, I don’t know exactly the places. But they have been,” he said.
“I have been an actor for 25 years in this country. I would like to say I received love from every corner of the country, in spite of religion, region, caste, creed, gender.
“And the only way I can return the love is through my work. And I try my best to do that. I succeed some times, and sometimes I fail, but I try my best to do that. So it saddens me when any of my work can’t reach the people, because I do work two or three times a year. It is saddening.”
There have been images of the superstar in the social media which Shahrukh found offensive. He said he has even been linked with people he doesn’t have any links with.
“A lot of the things I say are misconstrued perhaps, misrepresented, perhaps misinterpreted sometimes. And I am not someone who can sit here and say… this amazing amount of love from my countrymen and women… I have any issue with it in terms of tolerance and intolerance. So I don’t.
“But of course like the other day, I was sitting in and somebody put a tweet which does not belong to me. And I can’t clarify,” he added.
“I see a news which say I am related to an X person who is entirely against my country but that’s not true. I have no logistic way to explain all this, at my stage and age. I am a representative of my own country and I am thankful to everybody, but I can’t keep explaining that.”
OK…this is a new low for SRK. The film was literally a crap fest…no two ways about it…that is the MAIN factor/reason why the film isn’t doing so well. When a Rohit Shetty tries to Karan Joharize his films…the product results in the filthiest crap known to man kind.
Dilwale may not be a great film, but it is also true that shows have been disrupted in many parts of the country including Bangalore. This boycott call is extremely wrong, unfair, unethical, mean. I have seen plenty of useless people on social media calling for a boycott of SRK’s Dilwale this year and Aamir’s next. What a shameful face of supposedly tolerant India. And why? Because these actors admitted when asked , that yes, there is increasing intolerance. A lot of ordinary people have said it privately — that tolerant India now co-exists with an increasingly intolerant India. And all those who spoke before SRK- Aamir — no they are not all politically manipulated statements — these people, the economists, writers, scientists, directors — they will not be boycotted. But these two stars with over two decades of films to their credit — they are being torched.
I have come across an FB post that shows empty seats in a PVR Bangalore complex, and speaks about Khan actors being taught a lesson. Almost every comment that follows sees the mob cheering and indulging in virtual lynching. Wow, tolerant India.
I anticipate more protest against Dangal than Dilwale coz of the statement but the only silver lining for Dangal is that there is lot of time and people may forget by then and also that its more social drama and for women benefit subject compared to masala Dilwale which folks will empathize. But I don’t think SRK is very soft target for such controversies more than Aamir and Salman Khan.
So, first SRK’s statement is misconstrued and say like how dare he say intolerant to India.. and secondly they protest and start this #boycottdilwale trend and when someone says it impacted the movie release.. then its like.. how dare he say this as well… maybe just shut up and live scared of these goons and such folks.
I don’t disagree with anything you’ve said this may be one of the factors but again the main factor remains that the product is bad. PK had received notable negativity after its release from all sides yet because the product was good it sustained through all the crap thrown at it from everywhere. good product wins every time. For SRK to admit that BO performance “has been hit” is him making the ultimate excuse here.
Yeah.. just like blind fans.. bringing PK.. the biggest hit of Indian cinema for every discussion and then comparing with every film to prove a point. Its hilarious. You need to see world beyond that. SRK is talking about protests over the 1st weekend.. was it smooth release? No. Should he hide that fact and say it was a smooth release? Well, why should he?
Calling D as “filthiest crap known to man kind” will not help your point any better and then bringing PK. Wait.. you also have your ID as “Aamirsfan”. Still, you really want folks to take your opinion seriously? Lol.
nah man…not a “blind fan” here. If you follow any of my comments…I’m critical on any film that is bad…including D3 (an Aamir Khan starrer). I remember someone saying if I’m even a real Aamir Khan fan when I made that comment…and now you’re accusing me of blind fandom. lol. This is just SRK trying to play victim here and its annoying to be honest.
And yes Dilwale is pretty filthy…if you are trying to insinuate if that comment came from an hidden agenda…then you are wrong. There is no hidden agenda here…never has been. You don’t see me here “dragging down” SRK at every chance…I had to say something here on these comments because its becoming clear where he is trying to go with this narrative.
The reality is if and when some of the bans are lifted one should see an uptick in collections. If not clearly weak WOM is the reason behind declining collections and poor trends. If the reason for the struggle till now is this, the film should catch up in following days….so let’s see if that plays out. If not we can safely assume audience did not warm to film?
The ban point is moot to an extent, business should skyrocket as all those who missed out can turn up now or later.
If not we get back to reality of a weak product.
Imagine iPhone releases a new version and shops are closed, ppl who wanted to buy will turn up later for sure.
Sometimes banning has opposite effect. Sympathisers arrive and media supports the banned. I see none of that here or even ardent SRK fans crying at cinemas. The hard-core fans or media haven’t cared here probably cos they know they’d be backing the wrong horse.
There are probably more ppl out there wanting a refund than wanting to see the film.
[But unless a film is banned in a massively important state like Gujarat (like Fanaa was.. and even if no one cared about some of these issues then when initials were calculated.. when some of us mentioned these things people used to either laugh at us or ignore them.. but then I could say the same for competition and trending and what not!) which has not only some very important centers but also a very major city that is among the top 3-4 grossing cities in the country (for Hindi films). As for these bans, limited or whatever, these aren’t the difference between let’s say 200 and wherever the film is going to end up. It’s safe to say that unless the film really stabilizes at some point it is on path to do not much better than Ra One, all things considered. Or at least a significant failure. The kind of gross where all these reasons go out the window. Because these are about marginal things one way or the other. And again some of the ban stuff is being exaggerated anyway.]
again taking that comment and disregarding my whole point is just idiotic. i can care less if you don’t take me seriously. I don’t have anything to prove to you…especially if you haven’t been paying attention to my earlier comments. I have found myself defending SRK and his achievements many times here in the past. This has nothing to do with ‘fandom’.
“The reality is if and when some of the bans are lifted one should see an uptick in collections. If not clearly weak WOM is the reason behind declining collections and poor trends. ”
Man, looks like folks are just making this complicated for no reason. Or maybe just ignoring the fact. What was the (official) ban? When was it lifted? What you talking about?
“Imagine iPhone releases a new version and shops are closed, ppl who wanted to buy will turn up later for sure.”
Again, very wrong example. If Iphone releases and shops are being attacked on 1st day, I will not return to the shop next day hoping it won’t be attacked today, Iphone is not important for my living. If the shop is closed, yes I will be back.. but if there were protests and violence, I will not next day. You don’t seem to get this basic point.
No one will take kids and all and risk them for a movie.. its not that important in daily life. Once you start the protests and stop movies in between shows, it just discourages families and all. How can you calculate that? So, you expect, they will come back next day since they got booted out mid-way from the movie on 1st day? Lol.
PK too got caught in the Ban- brigade crossfire, but it happened more and more a few days after film’s release. Have read that PK collections did get affected to an extent.
It’s not right this sort of blackmailing and arm twisting by goons with an agenda. And the government does nothing to stop such activities.
Komal Nahta was right, BM > dilwale in US/Canada on Sunday.
But, Srk fans started abusing and accussing Nahta, since then he hasnt post a single tweet. Poor Nahta. 😦
Srkians, see yourself , isnt BM ($617,943 ) > dilwale ($602,175)
Master: “ But MNIK was not a love story.” Thank God for small mercies! SRK and Kajol at this stage of their career would be much more interesting to watch in a dramatic story where they had to display their histrionics rather than cavort and simper among hills like simpering teenagers. ( Something like Aamir and Kajol in Fanaa.) Romance requires young people. Unless it is a different kind of romance like Bridges of Madison County where the woman plays her age. You cannot have Salman romance Madhuri today because they were a hit Jodi in HAHK and Saajan and expect the audience to be excited. Of course an older hero can romance a young heroine, that would work. Rajnikant romances Ash in Robot. Now he is romancing Amy Jackson in Robot 2. That would work. But imagine trying to bring Rajnikant and Sridevi together to romance among Machhu Pichhu because they were a hit Jodi once! Aishwarya looks svelte and fetching as ever. But she does Jazbaa and Serbjeet, and not Shohabbatein!
“Thank God for small mercies! SRK and Kajol at this stage of their career would be much more interesting to watch in a dramatic story where they had to display their histrionics rather than cavort and simper among hills like simpering teenagers.”
Utkal Sir.. please watch the movie. SRK and Kajol kept saying this is very close to their age in the movie. There is 15 years old gap and that flashback portion is about 30 mins including Gerau song. That’s part of the story.. College life was shown 5 mins in Mohabbatein and 1 hour in KKHH. You are wasting your energy for the flashback portion. Later on, the story is not romantic but more of drama.
Good you reminded Fanaa. Kajol making her comeback 5 years after K3G did Fanaa and she played college student in 1st half of the movie. Was it appropriate? Lol. The 2nd half is more appropirate with having a kid and more of drama. Similarly.. there’s nothing teenage romance in Dilwale, far from it. Infact it has one of the most unique rivalry displayed in Hindi films(don’t want to put spoilers here) and the reaction by leading lady.
LS: I dont think how a call for boycott is unfair. If the film is released and there is no violence involved then it is a perfectly democratic way of expressing your opinion for or against something. In fcat I like this way. People gave call to boycott PK. Faor enough. But people made their own choice. They will do so for Dangal. The government has to ensure that there is no violence and no coercion not to exhibita film. That’s all. Call to individuals to boycott a film is perfectly legit. I think that is healthy too.
So, it doesn’t matter the ‘reason’ for the boycott. If you keep misconstruing the original statement and spreading lies and asking folks to boycott, is that fair? Seems in your world.
Peaceful calls to boycott movies is entirely democratic. Entire hollywood (led by their paymasters) kept trying to dissuade public from watching “The Passion of Christ”, yet that movie was a runaway blockbuster. It had found its audience. Its another matter that Mel Gibson has been paying for his insolence to this day.
Everyone has a right to express opinion, so there is nothing wrong if people are peacefully expressing their opinion via social media, without resorting to violence. They are not asking for someone to physically harm, just asking for people to stay away from a movie. It is upto the recepient of the message to decide whether to stay away or not.
And IMHO, it is a mark of Tolerant India that still went ahead to see an Uncle-Aunty romance and catapulted Dilwaale towards at least 100crs in collections. How can SRK even call anyone intolerant after that!?! Just day before yesterday, they were in BigBoss trying to promote, and doing the steps on Gerua, and they looked OLD!! Kajol also had packed her pounds back and was looking awful. So, do you expect an interested party to go and watch the movie after seeing Uncle-Aunty cavort on BigBoss? All this nostalgia is being manufactured, and is really only working on his core fanbase.
Now he is making matters worse by labelling those who stayed away as intolerant. Are the people of India born to just go watch whatever crap is dished out by SRK?
The first weekend gets booked en masse by all the hype, and kudos to SRK’s marketing for having drawn people in. After that it was based on the merits of the movie. BM is clearly the superior product, and ergo is doing better after the initial hype of Dilwaale had died down.
I think Master feels like I do. Utkal — it’s all seemingly legit, but actually this whole boycott an actor business is extremely mischievous and unfair IMO. SRK and Aamir get affected by their endorsement of the increased intolerance debate, because their films are actually ‘products’ that need to be sold in a particular way — distributors, exhibitors, film going audience, all involved in a very public deal. When theatres showing PK or Dilwale are attacked by a goon squad ( and with tv cameras covering their moves, they do a thorough job of damaging theatre property)– then exhibitors are reluctant to show the film, families are reluctant to watch the film in a theatre. Thus, a film does not get its intended collections. People will be happy enough to watch the film on a pirated DVD, or wait for a few months and watch the film when it is shown on tv. How fair and democratic is this sort of protest when a blackmailing goon squad has managed to make a dent in the expected collections of a film? Film production needs to be commercially viable. If the film is good people will come and watch — but the atmosphere should be conducive to a film outing at the local theatre. What happens when a band of thugs stands outside the theatre shouting obscenities, burning posters, breaking glass while a cud- chewing policeman watches indolently? Families and couples who have come to watch the film simply move away to a less troublesome spot.
Agree that public figures need to be circumspect while pronouncing their views on contentious topics — but whatever happened to minor matters like freedom of expression, thought, emotion. We sit at home and talk of similar matters– how a section of India is going on a rampage while tolerant ol’ India continues as before. Governors and Sadhvis and CMs talk in the most irresponsible manner. The news media gets to write about them but these worthies go on unhindered. On Twitter too a lot of loose talk happens….and they get away with it. But when two popular actors are asked and they give a frank though politically unwise opinion— all hell breaks lose. Toxic Twitter and to a lesser extent Facebook are perfect examples of how social media manipulates public opinion. Whatsapp is in its own league. Since the past month, supposedly educated Indians have been urging family and friends not to watch the films of supposed deshdrohis like the two Khan actors. Can this sort of thing be justified?
After Dari lynching, Khan lynching at work on the net. Not fair at all.
“NyKavi:
– How can SRK even call anyone intolerant after that!?
– Now he is making matters worse by labelling those who stayed away as intolerant”
What’s the use of all this pseudo intelligent discussions when you are easily twisting SRK’s words.. what else is expected from goons and protestors now? So, SRK is calling who didn’t watch Dilwale as Intolerant? Can you be serious henceforth?
SRK is the one who talked about Intolerance. Now he says that his words were misinterpreted! That is really rich. Both SRK and AK jumped on this tolerance bandwagon, fully expecting that there would be no blowback, but are crying foul now when people are protesting peacefully. They both need to understand that they can have fans of different political leanings. By siding with one political group, they alienate themselves from the other.
Dilwale was steady at the box office on Tuesday, most centres have witnessed drops in the range of 5 – 15%. A select few centres that we tracked were about the same as Monday. As per estimates, the film has collected somewhere around 8.5 – 9 crore on Tuesday.
Bajirao Mastani was steadier, there were some centres that showed surprising growth on Tuesday and others were rock steady showing hardly any drop. The film is likely to collect around Rs 9.5 – 10 crore on Tuesday.
Dilwale Bajirao Mastani Difference
Day 1 (Friday) 21 12.81 8.19
Day 2 (Saturday) 20.09 15.52 4.57
Day 3 (Sunday) 24 18.45 5.55
Day 4 (Monday) 10.09 10.25 -0.16
Day 5 (Tuesday) 8.75 9.75 -1
Dilwale First Tuesday Business
Wednesday 23 December 2015 11.00 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
Dilwale dropped 13% on Tuesday with multiplexes in big cities having noticeable falls with the best holds coming in Nizam / Andhra and East India. The business of Dilwale over the five days is as follows.
The first week business of the film will be in the 94-95 crore nett range. The film consumed less business on the weekend than it could have due to the clash so the weekday trend should have been good but it as very average here.
Bajirao Mastani First Tuesday Business
Wednesday 23 December 2015 11.00 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
Bajirao Mastani was rock steady on Tuesday with just a 5% drop after a very strong Monday. The business of Bajirao Mastaani over the first five days is as follows.
The first week of the film should be around 80 crore nett but with this solid Tuesday business it will be the second week where the film will put up a very good total. The film ia being lead by Mumbai circuit followed by South which is now also putting up very good numbers. East India is weakest though is holding well at low levels.
Dilwale First Tuesday Business
Wednesday 23 December 2015 11.00 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
Dilwale dropped 13% on Tuesday with multiplexes in big cities having noticeable falls with the best holds coming in Nizam / Andhra and East India. The business of Dilwale over the five days is as follows.
The first week business of the film will be in the 94-95 crore nett range. The film consumed less business on the weekend than it could have due to the clash so the weekday trend should have been good but it as very average here.
Bajirao Mastani First Tuesday Business
Wednesday 23 December 2015 11.00 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
Bajirao Mastani was rock steady on Tuesday with just a 5% drop after a very strong Monday. The business of Bajirao Mastaani over the first five days is as follows.
The first week of the film should be around 80 crore nett but with this solid Tuesday business it will be the second week where the film will put up a very good total. The film ia being lead by Mumbai circuit followed by South which is now also putting up very good numbers. East India is weakest though is holding well at low levels.
LS: When theatres showing PK or Dilwale are attacked by a goon squad ( and with tv cameras covering their moves, they do a thorough job of damaging theatre property)– That is when the government has to act sternly and punish the culprits. People like Aair and SRK have enough platforms to air their views and convince the people that they are right. If they cant, well, they have to accept the consequences. Fredom of Expression cannot be a one-way street available only to the elite. It is this attitude which gives liberals a bad name. If you are for fredom of expression and fredom to protest, you have to back anyone who wants to express or protest peacefully, even if you dont agree with their viewpoint.
Totally agree Utkal.
LS: “After Dari lynching, Khan lynching at work on the net. Not fair at all”
Labeling peaceful online protest as “Online Dadri style lynching” is what is really unfair. As pointed by Utkal, it is this attitude which gives liberals a bad name. If it were left to liberals, they would condescendingly muzzle all peaceful opposition.
We have a tendency to make someone very big and then bring him or her down.
SRK and Aamir have no fathers to firefight like Salman has.
Both should be careful in future.
Ab tera kya hoga Dangal?
Relatively SRK is receiving mild protests. In Aamir’s case, it wil be unimaginable unless some miracle happens.
Trust aamir, he will have satyme vijayte show next year where he will cater to the audience and get a good image in before dangal releases. aamir is a smart man, he knows how to manipulate things.
Wether Aamir has another Satyamev Jayate show or not — and I am somehow doubtful of that — what wrong has he done? Both SRK and Aamir agreed that there was some increased intolerance, repeated what even India’s premier economist indicated…and Aamir added his own bit about private apprehensions. You can argue the point, but this sort of sustained net campaign, still on, it makes me sick. Just read the comments of netizens on Indian Express fb page and website, in response to a news item where SRK has spoken sadly about this sort of campaign against his film and how he feels that it has affected the film. People are indulging in what I would call net lynching ( and somebody here pulled me up for this usage). These guys have been in the industry for over two decades, entertained us, done plenty of charity with their earnings….and to face this level of hate? Aren’t there worse villains out there?
And why talk of some sort of manipulation by Aamir? Any action can be read charitably as genuine — or as manipulation. What sort of action then is Being Human, playing Ram- Hanuman Bhakt in films, playing kite with the PM …the actor concerned has his fans here who may get offended, but the truth is he too ‘manipulated’ his image makeover, to use such words…😐
The film hasn’t been liked enough by the audience and the writing is on the wall. As simple as that. RS and SRK are coming out with excuses.
Surely they aren’t going to come out and accept that the movie is being rejected.
Having watched Dilwale, what I can say is that the movie is all plastic. SRK-Kajol, their make-up and appearance, their love story and the action scenes.. everything is so plastic in the movie. Shallow and fake. It is only getting what it deserves.
On the other hand, BM’s trending suggests that it is going to profit from the 3 open weeks. Can see the dark horse emerging as the winner here.
The backlash to SRK’s comment did affect the movie. Actually, there are two dimensions to it, one is protest and show cancellation which may have resulted in a loss of couple of crores. The another one and perhaps the bigger one is, many people may have not even considered watching SRK movie after his comment. I am not sure to what extent this has impacted the outcome but I know many who have skipped this movie because of this reason. I also found nothing wrong in this way of peaceful protesting. If SRK’s comments have been twisted to spread rumors, then onus is on him to clarify not on those who are protesting his stand by boycotting his movie.
Having said that, a stronger product could have easily overcome this effect.
Before release, I was of the opinion that even if Dilwale had bad wom and BM good, still Dilwale would end as bigger grosser. Guess, this is not going to happen now seeing how the movies are faring on weekdays.
The biggest issue is WOM other things are minor effects. A good film like you say would overcome, the question one needs to ask is how is it performing in areas where there were no bans or cancellations. I’d be shocked if it was holding well there.
Interestingly D has gone ahead of BM on Tuesday by 2 lacks. In the morning red chillies have given 9.42cr as the Tuesday number. Few hours back BM has given 9.4 cr as the collection. Their drop is larger as to what general trade was saying. Star wars will take some screens of both the movies. Though next weekend onwards BM will be ahead am still not sure if it will sail into safe zone. There is still some work to be done for both movies. The disadvantage for D is that though it will be fine economic wise perception wise it will always be a disappointment
BM is also ahead as per BOI , and BM had a very strong hold on monday compared to Dilwale didn’t drop more than 20% from friday so how could it have a bigger drop than Diwale on Tue ? Offcourse one can believe anything they want but its quite clear what Redchilles are trying to do here .
watched bajirao mastani last night,will not say much as few people here has not seen the movie,
ranveer singh….outstanding performace
deepika….excellent
priyanka chopra…..” wow ” as kashibai she steels the show
raza murad and aditya panchol were there for few moments but were ok.
first 20 minutes its gone so fast that everything about the film is felt,
then there is drag as if its in slow motion..
overall I would rate this film as 2.5*, it was not awesome but direction and acting wise everone did their job and hence the film will succeed….personally I think if this had solo release it would have done same…on the other hand dilwale on a solo release it would have minted money but clashing has done more damage to dilwale then BM
So it’s not Moghul E Azam like some are saying here?
Another winner from this movie is Aditya Chopra, he has Ranveer Singh in his next film. Not sure if ranveer has another movie in between but if next up is befikre, than it will help that movie a lot.
None of the film of today matches the films of past.
Same for songs too, I’ll take Nadeem Shravan songs anyday over what’s being dished out right now. Eventhou what NS did was not anything great but at least you can listen to those songs over and over again.
yes,
todays song heard today gone tomorrow,ashqi 1990,1942 a love story,sung by kumar shanu still rocks,even earlier of kishore da,or rafi sahab,everything were memorised instantly
After the initial euphoria, slowly truth will come out about numbers and appreciation. This weekend will throw some light as to how things are going for both the films.
What euphoria?
Numbers are there to see.
As per BOI, Dilwale is behind BM on Tuesday and the trend will continue.
Some are trying to save face but truth is very clear. Stop clutching at straws.
And, move on.
BM -safe
Dilwale-dud
I’m thinking in terms of when OUATIM 2 released 5 days after CE, it did good business first couple days than tanked very quickly. But here, Dilwale has collected more than BM 4 out of the 5 days yet it’s made out to be as if BM is beating up on Dilwale badly daily.
And how does a movie stays steady Monday and than again on Tuesday if it’s rejected?
But that’s apples and oranges. even if there was a ‘clash’ these are not comparable films. A film like BM will never outpace a film like Dilwale even when the former does well. It is only when the latter slips enough that this will happen. Put differently with these reviews most films in normal commercial genres would get to double the gross or at least one very significant higher than BM. The Tanu sequel did 140 or 150. Even as a solo that would be quite an achievement for BM. This is a point some of us have stressed for years. Genre matters. Now as for saying BM is doing better that’s a different argument. Even when Dilwale was ahead for 4 days or whatever it was underperforming and/or not growing whereas BM was going from strength to strength. Piku at 80 crores was a massive success because of the genre. Now it could have released with Jai Ho and maybe this would have outpaced it. But that wouldn’t prove anything! For Dilwale 250 was a real possibility. I never believed the 300 thing because Shetty’s movies don’t trend too well. For Bhansali meanwhile 120 was the best he could hope for. Maybe 20-30 more if it’s a real dream deal with extraordinary WOM. Let’s see how much this does. But if we look at such an ideal situation for him then Dilwale could have gone higher too (say Shetty really got a more substantial script). Either way there’s a huge bit separating the films. That BM could get ahead of Dilwale by the 5th day is actually pretty remarkable given all this. specially without a true-blue elite star.
It went ahead on day 4 itself
Dilwale has not crashed but it started lowish and didn’t sustain. Now even if it is relatively stable at low end, evetual haul is us going to be underwhelming.
If ut sustains in this pattern, it might limp to 150. Otherwise, around 130. In either case, it will be a very disappointing result.
Agreed Rajen — note that all these years later, Dilwaale is barely putting up 15-20% higher numbers than Ra-One, which itself was quite a disappointment and a fast fade. But then that isn’t surprising: if I’m not mistaken, only once in the last ten years has the highest grossing Hindi film of the year been a SRK film.
PS — even on fast fades, note the difference in numbers: Salman has also had films that have faded really fast, and can be said to have under-performed (relative to a Bajrangi Bhaijaan or a Dabangg 1) on trending. But Salman’s fast fades are putting up numbers like Ek Tha Tiger and Dabangg 2 did (150+), whereas SRK’s are comfortably south, in the 110-130 range (Ra-One; Dilwaale). It’s true the media has become very soft on Salman, where whether a film grosses like Bodyguard or like Bajrangi Bhaijan the coverage is at the same ecstatic level, but obvious under-performers like Bodyguard aren’t the majority of his releases). I won’t even mention Aamir here because even his relatively off-beat Talaash got to about 90, so ’nuff said (there are, as an aside, always a few who try and hold his films against him — “hey Aamir’s films are good so they don’t count!” — in a display of logic that depresses me as far as the country’s future is concerned)…
No but Aamir has always played this dirty game. Consider the new Star Wars. It’s going to make 700 or 800m or whatever. But that’s because it got good reviews and everyone liked it. This is the kind of dirty trick Aamir pulls. This time Salman got a bit dirty with Bajrangi too. Did a meaningful film, shockingly for him. Still didn’t get to PK but that’s another matter. By the way have you noticed how SRK fans seem to have a great deal of appreciation for SRK and vice versa. The same was true of some Hrithik fans too. Aamir is always the ‘excluded’ one in this sense. Now of course no one this side of sanity would deny his status in any sense (some still try.. but democracies have to tolerate the insane too) but it’s always interesting how these discussions get perverted. When he does a 100 SRK and Salman can supposedly do it by default. hey I;m still waiting! Without inflation becoming a factor it never really happens. The same for 200 or 300 or whatever. Bajrangi still did it without this kind of factor but this wasn’t true for any of the 200 crore grossers. One could similarly look at the Ghajini graph versus others. Similarly one could look at Aamir;s prestige stuff, what people used to say and how people pretend art house efforts are being made when SRK or someone else does them. So there has always been this kind of ‘unease’ where SRK is concerned. Somehow PK just means that someone else can do it. Meanwhile when it’s Dilwale notice how charitable things become (and not just on the part of SRK fans). On a related note suddenly competition with BM is such a fearsome proposition one would think it was ETT at the other end! Such exaggeration. And because of which hey even a 100 by Dilwale is a big deal. This is SRK-Shetty in a film post-CE. Then people think I’m attacking them or whatever. If you say such bizarre stuff you reveal your anxiety. You don’t really make a case for the film.
Re: “No but Aamir has always played this dirty game. Consider the new Star Wars. It’s going to make 700 or 800m or whatever. But that’s because it got good reviews and everyone liked it. This is the kind of dirty trick Aamir pulls. This time Salman got a bit dirty with Bajrangi too. …”
Instead of competing with Aamir and Salman, SRK is now competing with a ranveer led historical – fans are fans, spin is spin. D beating BM in collections was a no brainer…but that BM is putting up a fight is the surprise.
“For Dilwale 250 was a real possibility. I never believed the 300 thing because Shetty’s movies don’t trend too well. ”
Yes if D released solo – 250 cr was always the expectation but not when released alongside another movie where it had to fight tooth and nail to get even the screens.
Silly comparisons.. BM isn’t doing something extraordinary… D is doing below expectations, that’s all to it. BM will still same as expected prior release and D will not.
The trade never expected this. It’s doing more than ppl expected. Ppl expected another thumping for SLB. I think you are defending D performance and taking it too personally. Don’t worry there is still Fan and raees to come…SRK will be back.
But I’m grateful you’ve finally admitted D is doing below expectations.
I think before release or same day, I’ve told Satyam.. D doing 150 crs (with all the issues and competition) is akin or more than HNY doing 200 or PRDP doing 200 crs with solo release. If you understand that, you will realize the WOM is actually not bad than those films. .
What I’m actually doing is that trying to differentiate the scenario which is better than lumping all movies, all situations, release time and then judging one same criteria. No will judge Dhobi Ghat or Talaash with PK or Dhoom 3 but every SRK movie ought to be the biggest blockbuster of all time or else its a flop. I’m sure FAN doing 100 crs is another disaster in your eyes whereas Talaash doing 90 crs is superhit!
You’re being silly.. Raees or Fan will of course have a lower bar to live up to but I hope that all those who consider Talaash a failure without qualification will remember this total then! On dilwale c’mon I wasn’t the one hangong on to every detail like my life depended on it! You can’t have it both ways. And this whole ‘alright it’s not the biggest blockbuster’ spiel is a bit stale and certainly unconvincing by now. The film would be lucky to match the Tanu sequel number at this point.maybe that’s why Srk teamed up with Shetty after CE! C’mon!
“Instead of competing with Aamir and Salman, SRK is now competing with a ranveer led historical”
At this rate, he may compete with the bachhans pretty soon 🙂
By the way, it’s great to see all these bachhan fans all of sudden out of nowhere. Wonder where they all go when bachhan film releases. For reference, please see all is well boxoffice thread and see the number of comment bachhan fans put up.
with Piku super-performing for its genre and Dilwale underperforming perhaps we can agree on a common destination.. with Raees and Fan around the corner Piku’s might start looking like a dream gross very soon, even for much safer commercial genres! let’s put it this way.. you’re certainly not going to be vacationing with Salman’s or Aamir’s fans..!
**“Wonder where they all go when bachhan film releases. ”**
Umm..it’s really funny how these guys/gals/Gauri’s children start resorting to Bachchan. Hope you haven’t ‘mixed’ Amitabh and Abhishek — just like now dim-wits are celebrating ‘combined’ totals of D and BM!
I was not really a party to Satyam’s talk of SRK fans’ anxiety. But bringing AB [I mean Amitabh] into each and every ‘comparison’ really brings to the fore this anxiety that Satyam keeps talking about. That summit of reaching the sun really eludes these guys and their idol. Their only hope remains of trying to ‘lessen’ the impact and intensity of sunlight. They know they cannot equate the candle-light to the sunlight, but hey, they can try their best to portray the sun-light as a diminishing force!! At 72!!
I hope now the ‘defense’ won’t be that one was talking of Abhishek! Since Abhishek and any greatest fan of his on this globally-warmed Earth would not even in their wildest dreams when enjoying pot in Colorado would bring up a comparison between SRK’s and Abhishek’s stardom!
Amitabh Bachchan at 72 is ahead of all the Khans, young heart-throbs on all social networking sites be it Twitter or FB or his own blog and directors from Hirani to Shankar having their dream to direct him at least once in their lifetime and also consistently been featuring in top 5 celebrities in terms of money and fame!! Yet these very known facts are “Alien” to those who are spending 24*7 on blogs just to defend the lame performance of their favourite star and comparing him with Khans shows who is the barometer to gauge their star value!! It’s unimaginable what it would be in his prime when he was delivering monstrous hits one after the other despite media ban, can just sympathise with those who can’t accept the “Real facts” and keep on comparing “An Apple to Guavas basket!!” and then have a hearty laugh on such infantile desperate souls!!
I guess you missed the point of bachhan fans putting in all of their effort to make srk look bad. If bachhan are doing so well, talk about them, why spend so much time on srk?
you have problem with srk fans talking about srk but have no problem about bachhan fans wasting their life away talking badly about srk?
go thru the history of this blog and you’ll get the point unless you want to be blind.
Again, I’ll take 100 crore grosser dud like dilwale any day over 20 crore grosser blockbuster All is Well 🙂
I think we need to give time and there are holidays. The films are not as big disappointments as PRDP which was expected to do 400 crores without any competition and Salman in a double role after the success of BB.
Varun Dhawan hurt by media’s indifference to boycotting of Dilwale
“The boycotting of Dilwale by a certain section did hurt as an actor, as an artiste. We made the film for the audience to enjoy,” said Varun Dhawan in a Bollywood Hungama
“Our release wasn’t a tension free release. It wasn’t a normal release. People in the media knew about it but they didn’t write about it for some reason. People keep on telling us that stand up for something but when we do stand up, we don’t get the support from the media or the film fraternity. It hurt me. I felt bad about the whole thing,” said a visibly hurt Varun Dhawan.
#Dilwale is UNSTOPPABLE in UK, crosses £ 1 million on Tue… Mon £ 143,808, Tue £ 172,653. Total: £ 1,044,110 [₹ 10.27 cr].
srk films always do well in uk and so does other 2 khans,here in uk,btw last night even bajirao mastani was alamost full which is unusual considering a week day and non khan film…
Yes agree Vijay. Also the reason SRK took panga here is as ROI is not at stake here and worldwide like PRDP will again end up in top 5 or so considering Christmas / Vacations work better overseas. Its the perception and reputation which is under scanner at the moment.
Now this tweet –
KRK @kamaalrkhan 3h3 hours ago
Today also all the shows of #Dilwale are houseful all over the UAE. It’s proof that @iamsrk is the biggest Bollywood super star in overseas.
On the intolerance bit I will say srk is paying for some of the damage done by Aamir for contemplating on leaving India. Now whatever was the context of aamir blabber , but it has hurt a lot of people and the sense of ungratefulness has steeped in public minds…..( yes media is to be partly blamed for distorting and twisting , but aamir being a public figure should have known what catches media attention to sell)
Also blame for SRK intolerance debate needs to go to Barkha Dutt and if anyone watches that interview, will vouch she kept on insisting to say something on that bit…….and he started okay now people are more vocal on social media, more mediums are out there etc etc…..and rest as they say is history.
Salman came out of it smartly using common man thesis by saying something like……. I am sitting here , Sonam is sitting here and you
(the jounalist ) here and all from different religion so where is the so called ‘ intolerance’….
But if all this is not nipped in the bud there is trouble for ‘Khandom’ ahead.
Re: “On the intolerance bit I will say srk is paying for some of the damage done by Aamir for contemplating on leaving India. Now whatever was the context of aamir blabber , but it has hurt a lot of people and the sense of ungratefulness has steeped in public minds…..( yes media is to be partly blamed for distorting and twisting , but aamir being a public figure should have known what catches media attention to sell)”
Now I’ve heard it all: Aamir is to blame even for this?! Wow, if I had SRK’s super-power — of being able to weasel out of responsibility in any situation — I wonder what I would do. Maybe that should be the new set of films for SRK: TeflonDon (“ye Don anday ki tarah…phisal jaata hai”). [Aside: the only context in which Aamir’s comment is “transferable” to SRK is a communal one; but in fact, the reaction was very different: SRK’s buddies in the media all showed up to canonize him (according to Barkha, we don’t even deserve him) while Aamir had to face the music with a bunch of manufactured outrage wholly out of proportion to what he actually said).]
Let’s not get distracted away from the real story: the much hyped re-union of Kajol and SRK (Rohit Shetty was an odd choice to begin with, a frankly cynical one — hard to make memorable films if the process of making them is so plastic) is a dud. Apart from the BO numbers, I have literally not met nor heard of anyone who’s seen the film and liked it. Now, I bet you the film isn’t that bad — but that’s what happens when something seems stale.
Qalandar, the bit on Aamir getting some blame here, firstly that incident is still fresh plus there is always this insinuation and herd mentality which is dangerous than any other angle at play here…. I mean sometimes brain suppresses personal morals when in group and this phenomenon is not restricted to India but prevalent worldwide. As someone here (I think munna ) mentioned the propensity for groups of people to shed the inhibitions of societal and moral standards when they act as a group. A group of people will often engage in actions that are contrary to the private moral standards of each individual in that group, sweeping otherwise decent individuals into mobs.
Once again,I don’t wish to comment much on the movie as it is all subjective. Although the movie was jerky and badly edited and may I say ‘again’ seemed hastily done, there were few individual brilliant sequences which had partly paisa wasool filmy moments….( not necessarily with srk but other cast members like Varun showing brotherly love and mouthing street smart lines like ‘hawa aaney de’…). In current phase , cinema for me means more tapoori /larger than life more than the ‘sophisticated’ because if the latter is not done well it comes across contrived/ quasi fake and a waste of time esp if in the alternate universe one is witnessing great innovative stories being told on TV/ HBO/Netflix.
Have said before too, Dilwale is suffering more due to HNY fatigue which is still fresh on everyone’s mind than anything else. SRK needed a change of genre to erase HNY memories before coming with Dilwale. I guess open Christmas was too much of temptation for him ….plus he has effectively played party pooper to SLB/ Ranveer’s outing where they could have genuinely had his own Yeh Jawaani Diwani blockbuster moment like Ranbir.
Salman will take him under his wings and teach him survival tactics. As An Jo said first teach him how to fly kites. Makar Sankranti is only a few days away.
After some discussions on Salman postponing his Sultan , KJO jumped in yesterday with his confirmation out of fear to protect his slot before salman changed his mind. Salman is also close to KJO, so i doubt he will mess him up.
Looking at some of the backlash on boycotting movies, I still feel the ‘Dildar Salman’ will vacate Eid date for SRK since his movie requires support and also an Eid type of audience esp with current vitiated atmosphere. Dialogue likes ‘ baniye ka dimaag, miyaan bhai ki daring’ etc cater to a certain demographic.
anyway interesting tweets –
Karan Johar ?@karanjohar Dec 22
And it’s a wrap on our London schedule!!!! #AeDilHaiMushkil all set to release on the 28th of October 2016!! DIWALI!
taran adarsh ?@taran_adarsh 2h2 hours ago
No, #Sultan is NOT postponed to Diwali 2016. Confirmed for Eid 2016. Which means, #Sultan [Salman Khan] versus #Raees [SRK] clash is on!
MSDhoni, I think Salman is not willing to complete Sultan so quickly. Its affecting his health and just 20 days schedule completed and more 90 days to go. He don’t want to shoot so fast and affect his health, so 2nd schedule has been delayed as he wants proper break now. Eid also comes a little early next year July 3 and its pretty tight schedule especially if its kushti scenes to be shot. See the director’s tweet.
Abbas Ali Zafar @aliabbaszafar
1st schedule of @SultanTheMovie wraps today. 20 days down 90 more to go.
At the overseas box office charts, Bajirao Mastani is at number 10 in the Top Ten US box office charts and number 7 on the UK charts, Eros said. In its opening weekend, Bajirao Mastani grossed over Rs. 30 crore from overseas markets.
Analysts also expect Bajirao Mastani to continue its strong run. “A strong word of mouth and critical acclaim has led to surge in footfalls, opening up the possibility of movie running for 3-4 weeks in theatres,” brokerage Maybank said in a note.
Bajirao Mastani’s collections are decent despite being pitted against Shah Rukh Khan’s Dilwale starring and Star Wars in the Christmas holiday season, the brokerage added.
Eros had released Bajirao Mastani across 3,750 screens worldwide
As a SRK fan, i’ll tell you guys frankly, it hurts much…in fact very much to see his films not grossing expected numbers and hell it’s even being bettered by a Ranveer movie…wow!!! I didn’t even think of this possibility in my worst nightmares … but for sure some of the fault lies with SRK’s scipts’ choice…Don, Don2 , HNY Ra.1, JTHJ were all crap movies….why does he have to do these types of films which even his hardcore fans disliike!!! And yes another thing I’ll say is that many people are happy when a SRK movie underperforms…I stiii can’t understand why this is so??? 😦 I mean he’s an actor like everyone else…doing movies for entertainment then why is he always criticised for every of his movies, hell why is he even disliked that much…guess I’ll never get a concrete answer for this…But I do sincerely hope Dilwale picks up and perform better than BM…if not then I’ll still hope his next movie is a superhit or blockbuster because he is my favourite star…I just don’t like to see the negativity around SRK … just hoping his movies will be better from now on and even if it’s not he’ll always be my favourite star…and Satyam and all you guys I really like your comments and visit this blog everyday…just took a big courage to share my opinion today…hope I won’t be lynched 😉 love to you all from Mauritius 😀
You are from Mauritius? Interesting place. Regarding SRK — he has a humungous fan base, very loyal; is liked by the entire film industry; Anupam Kher spoke up for him during the intolerance controversy( and a few days later blasted Aamir to bits, on Twitter). Like Sandy wrote , Aamir is a Lone Ranger; does not have full media support, doesn’t not have full film industry support ( though he has his own loyalists). And his fan base is small, niche. And next year SRK has two interesting films coming up. SRK looks good at 50. He easily has another 5 years at the top or nearabouts.
About Aamir, I am not sure. His recent careless remark ( for which I don’t consider him a deshdrohi) — it has cost him plenty of goodwill. Can he get out of this self created situation…maybe, if he is lucky. But I have my doubts. Dangal looks chancy.
Ziyad,
wished we had simple sofisticated fans here as Ziyad,two simple sentences said it all..I am sure srk will do some quality films in future but not sure people will hate him less,all stars have their fans but all also have hatred fans situated everywhere,some hate amir khan,salman khan and others,some people even started hating ranveer singh,can you imagine that….look at amitabh he is now 73 but hatred is still there…
every actors who are top are hated in their own right because they are successful so srk is not immune…
i haven’t seen Dilwale, but I was among the first few to express how this was a project of convenience with cynical boxoffice aims. To that end, the film is looking like a big disappointment. Why else would SRK come out and sound all defensive and pleading about his intolerance remarks? I’m not convinced that his remarks are responsible for the film losing the little steam it gathered on the first two days, thanks to SRK’s core fan base.The film got poor reviews everywhere, including from quarters that are seen to be SRK cheerleaders. The actor has only been doing commercial potboilers for a while now, and none were critically dismissed like Dilwale. Even his last- HNY – got a 3 star on average. Frankly i was shocked to see an SRK film being handed a one star! And this is an actor who has plenty of media support, unlike Aamir who is a lone ranger. It was evident during the intolerance controversy.
My point is – Dilwale appears to be a very average film, and the public is getting tired of SRK doing predictable no-brainers in the futile pursuit of keeping up with numbers, and not becoming a very distant third to Salman and Aamir! He needs to mix it up. His next, Fan and Raees look good.
Was his remarks responsible for the no showing? Well, maybe a little. Once people sense a film isn’t going to be any great shakes, it becomes easy to give it up for any flimsy reason.
Will Aamir suffer next? I expect some protests ,but it’s a year away, and perceptions can change either way. Also, Dangal is not a masala entertainer; the fact that it is a social drama makes it a lesser target. But overall,I think it’s crucial for the film to be outstanding; anything less, and people may boycott the film. There was genuine outrage against Aamir and a sizeable number of people may stay away unless the film is pure gold. Then, of course, the Indian public’s sense of fairness will take over, and everyone will flock to see it.
anything can of course happen but I am quite strong on Dangal.. because I think it will allow him to do the Lagaan kind of deal. Not a film of similar quality or anything. Just that this will have enough of the rustic to it, which is to say enough comic situations, important wrestling bouts a la Lagaan’s cricket and it will have a strong emotional appeal in the father-daughter thing. Leaving aside whatever feminist angle there is. So I think on paper he has the right elements here. The only place I’d agree is that I too sometimes long to see a normal Aamir in a film!
good comment and yes agree overall with the Dilwale point. On Dangal, I just want it to be a good film; and what I’ve learned from this is…if a movie is good…then the box office return will be great…what a concept!
Really enjoyed Bajirao Mastani…just a terrific, solid piece of filmmaking, maybe the most controlled piece direction from Bhansali in his career. Great dialogue-baazi, and remarkable visuals…to miss it on the big screen would be a huge mistake.
Saw few scenes from Dilwale on a pirated print…honestly couldn’t watch it even for free. If this movie is tolerated (hopefully not) by the public, then there is absolutely no intolerance in India 🙂
“glad those watching in theater are getting their money’s worth”
Money’s worth is besides the point and secondary issue and if I take my example, I watch a movie on big screen or later on DVD if I’m interested…. doesn’t matter if it will be hit or flop. At least I don’t watch it on pirated copies and give my opinion or review. That is pathetic, it is better if you say you don’t care about D and don’t want to watch it. At least it sounds fair than this BS pirated opinion.
I think few days back.. someone asked about BM.. I mentioned if interested, you need to watch SLB on big screen, no point of watching it on TV or DVD later.
Naah, I’m not taking it personally but you can’t make fun of folks who watch movies legally. I even responded in fun manner but then you are supporting your piracy and making fun of folks watching movies.. why wouldn’t I react? Isn’t this a movie blog? The whole point is watch movies and discuss. Yes, many folks watch it and give their opinions(can be good or bad) here but I don’t remember anyone endorsing piracy for thrashing a movie.
Also, its not about D only – I watch every big movie out there during whole year and that is again my personal choice. So its logical I will get defensive on that.
One of the srkian, between Z and master, posted BM pirated link here on BO thread, on saturday itself. Thankfully, satyam removed it. Srkians are worst, still take dignified stand if its about dilwale. Huh
Re: “Really enjoyed Bajirao Mastani…just a terrific, solid piece of filmmaking, maybe the most controlled piece direction from Bhansali in his career. Great dialogue-baazi, and remarkable visuals…to miss it on the big screen would be a huge mistake.”
I was initially planning on skipping it (based on the Ras-Leela experience) but reviews such as yours have persuaded me, and I hope to check it out this weekend…
Yes, the film doesn’t have the outright vibe of a winner; and Aamir as a father to 4 (or 3?) daughters in a film about female empowerment etc…i don’t know. It’s an unconventional set-up, but the silver lining is that he has more often than not, produced a superlative film with these unusual subjects. His unconventionality is indispensable now, as the public is clearly tiring of seeing the same formulaic fares . SRK has reached his limit with it; Salman will run out of steam too.
I have absolutely no doubt that Dangal will be a great movie and will do min 200+ crs. Its the classic story of underdog which never goes wrong with all the social issues merged into them. Even if it does quite less, it will be hugely successful but I don’t it doing less than 200crs, a year from now in Dec 2016.
There’s a lot of ‘history’ behind the casting of BM & whilst it does appear ‘coincidental’ & ‘circumstantial’ ultimately it’s significant & not a frivolous opportunistic piece of casting
pinga is not as opulent & lacks the wow factor of dola dola besides being a less catchy tune
But nonetheless pinga is sincere, well placed & has less fakery
Transposing the actors
Madhuri is rightly & ably substituted by Priyanka
Aishwaryas ‘legacy’ is carried forward by Deepika
And all four filmed this with dignity & ‘maturity’ without resorting to cheap cat fights etc
There have been good actresses like rani, vidya, kangana etc but as complete Bollywood performers, these four encapsulate bollywoods elite heroines over the last two three decades…
& bajiraos role couldn’t have been played by anybody now except Ranveer Singh
Who inspite of the flaws &inconsistencies, makes the role his own
Btw imo the role of bajirao isn’t an ordinary role–
I personally Loved the part of bajirao
Dilwale And Bajirao Mastani Hold Steady On Wednesday
Thursday 24 December 2015 01.00 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
Dilwale and Bajirao Mastani have held up very well on Wednesday as both films will see minimal drops. The business of Dilwale will be 8.25 crore nett apprx and Bajirao Mastani 9.25 crore nett apprx. The total of Dilwale is 89.25 crore nett after six days and Bajirao Mastani will be around 73.50 crore nett.
The Xmas period is kicking in and it could be that both films actually improve tomorrow as the evenings will get a boost due to the big holiday next day. The holds of Bajirao Mastani are very strong in the city multiplexes
The best performance for Bajirao Mastani is Mumbai circuit by a distance and the film is on a very strong run in the circuit which will take it comfortably over 50 crore nett, maybe to even 60 crore nett.
The best performance of Dilwale is East India especially West Bengal. It is a Shahrukh Khan film who is the number one star in the circuit but such collections for a masala genre film are still very surprising.
The Guild Awards 2015 was held last night. Sanjay Leela Bhansali’s Bajirao Mastani swept the awards ceremony winning as many as 9 awards – including Ranveer Singh in the Best Actor category, Best Director, Best Supporting Actress, Best Choreography, Best Dialogue, Best Cinematography, Best Art Direction, Best Sound Design and Best Costume Design.
The other big winner of the evening was Kabir Khan’s Bajrangi Bhaijaan, which won 5 awards. Salman Khan was the top contender to sweep the Best Actor awards this year, but Ranveer Singh delivered the performance of his life in Bajirao Mastani to win the biggest award of the night. Deepika Padukone was declared the Best Actress for her performance in Piku.
Best Film Of The Year – Bajrangi Bhaijaan
Best Actor Of The Year (Male) – Ranveer Singh for Bajirao Mastani
Best Actor Of The Year (Female) – Deepika Padukone for Piku
Best Director Of The Year – Sanjay Leela Bhansali for Bajirao Mastani
Best Actor Debut (Male) – Kapil Sharma
Best Actor Debut (Female) – Bhumi Pednekar for Dum Laga Ke Haisha
Best Actor in a Negative Role: Nawazuddin Siddiqui for Badlapur
Best Director Debut – Neeraj Ghaywan for Masaan
Best Supporting Actor – Nawazuddin Siddiqui for Bajrangi Bhaijaan
Best Supporting Actress – Tabu for Drishyam and Tanvi Azmi for Bajirao Mastani
Best Story – Bajrangi Bhaijaan
Best Screenplay – Kabir Khan, Bajrangi Bhaijaan
Best Child Artist – Harshali Malhotra for Bajrangi Bhaijaan
Best Choreography – Remo D’Souza for Pinga in Bajirao Mastani
Lifetime Achievement Award – Jeetendra
Yash Chopra Most Promising Debut Award – Neeraj Ghaywan for Masaan
Best Actor Comic Role – Deepak Dobriyal for Tanu Weds Manu Returns
Best Music – Amaal Mallik, Ankit Tiwari, Meet Bros Anjjan for Roy
Best Male Singer – Arijit Singh, Hamari Adhuri Kahani (Hamari Adhuri Kahani)
Best Female Singer – Monali Thakur, Moh Moh Ke Dhaage (Dum Laga Ke Haisha)
Best Lyrics – Varun Grover, Moh Moh Ke Dhaage (Dum Laga Ke Haisha)
Best Dialogue – Prakash R. Kapadia, Bajirao Mastani
Best Cinematography – Bajirao Mastani
Best Art Direction – Bajirao Mastani
Best Sound Design – Bajirao Mastani
Best Costume Design – Bajirao Mastani
There is hardly any drop for D on Wednesday. I think we should see a 9 cr plus collection. Thursday should maintain it as evening onwards collections will pick up. The key for Friday is how many screens the two movies lose to Star Wars. It D can put a figure close to 12 to 13 cr it means a 35 to 40 percent drop only from first Friday. I think BM will do around 15 cr which means an increase from first Friday. D is maintaining very well in singe screens, it’s multiplexes which are not supporting it in certain parts of he country.
Net net I think D inspite of WOM seemed to have settled now relatively and there is a chance now of 150 cr which seemed improbable when it dropped on Saturday. BM also seems to have a chance of 160 cr.
It wont be so easy. D will lose substantially more screens in multiplex to star wars than BM. For BM get to to 14 is easier as It is doing better in plexus. D will need to be propelled by single screens and there is a limit to how much they can push. If it was not a holiday with those reduced screens 6 cr would have been the best hope and we are talking about doubling that.it is tough to achieve due to the middling WOM. If Delhi single screens shift to D it is possible.
Q: You(SRK) are blending smaller films with big movies now.
A: Yes, I want to do two to three films now if possible. I set up Red Chillies as a production house and studio 12 years ago, and I had to put it on a sound footing, so I did a lot of big films where I spared no expense to make the best possible movie. That also took up a lot of my time, as I was hands-on in everything. Now I have got a crack team, and, if I do everything like before, I will be wasting their time, because they are so good. So I just stick to the creatives and call them over to tell them what I want and then leave them to do the job. So I have a great time with my other activities and go with my kids for matches and so on.
For a 150-strong company, however, I still need to do that biggie like “Happy New Year” and “Dilwale.” But I now want to also do those small movies that can be shot in 60 to 70 days instead of, say, 140, because I love those kind of films. I always loved doing a “Raju…” or a “Kabhi Haan…” and that’s where “Fan” and “Raees” come in. Now Aanand Rai has come to me with the character of a dwarf, and that’s very interesting. You see, I cannot WRITE a film for me. But I love such films. So I need to keep a balance.
Also people expect things from you, and you must give it to them. Aditya Chopra was going to make “Auzaar,” a hard-hitting action drama, with me. But he changed his mind stating that people loved me as a romantic hero. He then made “Dilwale Dulhania Le Jayenge” and continued making romantic films with me!
Honestly, I must tell you that some offbeat directors I respect come to me and want to make my kind of 200-crore film with me! I tell them I want to make their kind of cinema, and I will be good at it. If they tell me that they want to make a love story differently, I am game, because nobody knows love better than me! (Grins)
Rumors about SRK and Ranbir in Shimit Amin’s next movie!
Shah Rukh Khan and Ranbir Kapoor working together is all things magical. There have been conjectures the two will soon begin work on Aditya Chopra’s project which is to be directed by Shimit Amin.
You recently spoke about the controversy surrounding Aamir Khan & Shah Rukh Khan as well. You are one of the few celebrities in Bollywood who has always spoken about social issues. Do you feel disheartened with the way things have been deliberately misrepresented and misquoted in what Aamir and Shah Rukh said and how it was twisted?
Not just Aamir or Shah Rukh, but I feel that if anybody gets misquoted, it’s very unfortunate. When you are speaking to media or speaking anywhere, the least you’re going to expect is that the context in which you’ve said something is put forward in the same context. The sensationalism on some level has taken over. The headline is there to shock you and when you read the fine print, you realize that it was said differently and in another context. Secondly, I do believe that we live in a very thriving democracy where people have the freedom to say what they are feeling and what is troubling them if there’s anything troubling them. And there are people who have the right to disagree with them. But once that happens, the debate that needs to be surrounded should happen at a certain level of dignity. But when it is brought down to the level of a street brawl and when the intentions are being questioned, that’s a bit unfortunate. Instead, one should try to understand why the person is saying what he is saying and even if we feel that the person is wrong, you know what is it that we can say to them needs to be considered. By targeting them and pointing fingers, you are actually proving their point.
The Guirdan – Bajirao Mastani review – lusty yet progressive historical love triangle
4 / 5 stars
Deepika Padukone and Ranveer Singh get the epic hots for each other, as spurned wife Priyanka Chopra smoulders by candlelight – under the masterfully assured direction of Sanjay Leela Bhansali
It’s official. Shah Rukh Khan has confirmed that he’ll take the superhero franchise forward, film will be helmed by the same director.
“I will 100 per cent make the sequel. There are no two ways about it. By nature I am not someone to give up on a dream — be it KKR or Ra.One. Of course we will make it better now, because we have five more years of amazing experience in technology. I think we are the only ones who have it in this country. Inshaallah, we will figure a story and I will speak to Anubhav Sinha again. The film will be called G.One”
In ur dreams. Go check boi or any trade site. Also be prepared to hear dilwale crash on thursday and further on friday. Its number of shows have gone half and still bookings are very poor. Number of deducted shows clarifies how poor it is performing everywhere except west bengal. Every other circuit bm has been leading since monday with margin getting better, there is high possibility dilwale collections were for weekdays were inflated, many sources say 6-7 cr on tuesday and wednesday. First week territorial breakdown should bring out real data.
yes desperate measures from now,shuving & pushing will be done on this D,on the other hand BM does not need anything its doing auto-pilot,rising & rising,people can see clearly what is good and what id dud….
Dilwale and Bajirao Mastani have held up very well on Wednesday as both films will see minimal drops. The business of Dilwale will be 8.25 crore nett apprx and Bajirao Mastani 9.25 crore nett apprx. The total of Dilwale is 89.25 crore nett after six days and Bajirao Mastani will be around 73.50 crore nett.
D will be a recovery movie at 125 cr. BM will be recovery movie at a little higher than that. For hit status both need 160 to 170 cr. This is just India business
logged in to see this precious gem of a review AJ (which I was desperately hoping for). Chakas on every count, every word, every imagery, analogies you have used. Haven’t read something so superb in BM reviews which wants me to convince you to become a full time writer boss! Satyam should create a separate post on this one.
Two significant scenes worth a good discussion in these and those, tolerant/intolerant times, and even though the movie is all love story (he still put some scenes like this in the movie which allows the audience to ponder on history/self-reflection), for me, would be the scene where B-M’s son Krishna is not allowed a munji/yagnopavit and Bajirao changes the name of his son (possibly same thing happened to Mastani because she was also product of hindu father and muslim mother). The scene where they take mastani’s son away from her in the prison. Both scenes linger on in my mind. Poignant. Moving. Touching. Telling.
P.S.: what were you doing at 3AM…though the sleepless night produced such a piece of writing that makes me think that aayat of writing needs to convert to ibaadat-mohobbat-e-writing 🙂
Ranveer’s acting is like Bhansali’s movie making. There is flashes of genius/brilliance all over the place but something that leaves the end result still incoherant or one feels a sense of ‘adhura-pan”. It is like reading a most interesting, spactacular novel but in the end the reader feels that the book was somehow not complete and leaves him perplexed instead of satisfied. It is like eating the most sumptuous meal with laddoos, ghee, pharsan and feeling ‘full’ but not satisfied because maybe the daal-rice was missing. I feel Bhansali needs a collaborator like wozniak needed Steve Jobs to bring all his talents and genius to market it. Or merchant-ivory-jabavala, the trio that created movie magic each incomplete without the other. Ranveer is a good clay in hands of a right molder and hopefully he will become daniel-day-lewis that hs so desperately wants to be (he is not DDL that he thinks he is yet but on a right track at least from the choices and priority he has which has to be admired even if one cannot stand him on personal prejudices).
“And PINGA PINGA is the BEST example of Bhansali’s excesses. Absolutely unnecessary, zero value-added song.”
Well if there was more acceptance and tolerance of Mastani, if she didn’t have to grow up a muslim (we assume), if she was allowed ‘conversion’ even, then this is what would have happened. Pinga-Pinga. There would be no B-M movie and Bhansali would have to look elsewhere to make some other movie. The women as such had no problem as men in those days did marry multiple times. Had Mastani been a marathi mulgi then both her and kashi would have lived happily together and Baji’s dream of Hindu swaraj would indeed be successful because he may not have suddenly died at 39 out of broken heart etc. and instead of 40 wars he would have won 80 wars…etc..etc. So pinga-pinga is very important note from the film maker 😉 🙂
An absolute gem of a heartfelt review An Jo. You have what it takes to be a “Genuine” film reviewer without any agenda or propaganda, hats off for writing down “Prose in Poetry”, a very gifted and rare skill. Wish you could write more such pieces to enthrall and captivate us in equal measure as the movie you are writing about (As sometimes your writings surpass the movies you write about)
Not just india, in us aswell. Bm shows are very less reduced or kept intact. For dilwale 30-50% shows are cut. lets see how are first week numbers in us/canada.
“I think BM 2nd Friday might be bigger than it’s first Friday going by the trend. Can’t think of a recent movie which 2nd Friday was higher than first.”
True but 2nd Friday is also Christmas holiday so the comparison isn’t fair. Another rare example is Queen collections where 2nd Fri > 1st Fri; 2nd Sat > 1st Sat and 2nd Sun > 1st Sun.
Yes, the comparison wouldn’t be same and fair. I mean you would never expect aamir/salman/srk/hr movies to make more 2nd weekend because they open big. most who wants to see it will see it in first few days.
This is classic. Had to dig it out of All is Well boxoffice thread… There are more classics comments if you care to go thru bachhan countless flop films posts.
Raghav Says:
August 21, 2015 at 5:24 AM
It has flopped And i think it is end of career for abhishek bachchan. Do you agree satyam?
Satyam Says:
August 21, 2015 at 6:18 AM
Not at all. Not by a long shot. There’s a reason why folks have been waiting for this supposed ‘end’ forever! And why every film is supposed to be a final ‘nail’ in his coffin. Except that there’s then another one. I’ve always said this but people greatly underestimate his resilience. Let’s how how much or not AIW does but he will be back and with a proper solo even if AIW doesn’t work.
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So Abhishek is still going strong but SRK, whose last 6 films have made over 100 crore including 2 over 200 crore (this just in india) and Raees and Fan coming up, his career is fading?
So SRK, ranbir, hrithik, etc.. are at risk but somebody who has given countless flops is doing fine. LOL, what logic…
SRK is going nowhere, neither his fans 🙂
Bolbachhan was celebrated here like it was a huge success, well a dud Dilwale will cross BB without any doubts.
But who said SRK is going anywhere? If you could find me a thread, a comment, anything of mine where I said that one would stop seeing him in movies perhaps we could talk.. otherwise this is a classic straw man argument.
On the rest not sure which Abhishek fan has denied the problems he’s been facing for a long time. The question is more about an ‘existential’ thread in his case. In other words it’s often been framed as ‘will he get any films at all?’ Or ‘will he get any films as a solo?’ that’s the question I’ve often responded to.
Of course the problem here is that if you think there is no comparison between SRK and Abhishek why bring it up at all? BB was a big deal for Abhishek, specially at that point in time. Just as 100 crores even today would be a big deal for many stars in many situations. But not Aamir or Salman or some others. However you want to play the game where you aim for 300 and compete with Aamir or whoever at that level but if the film fails completely 100 too is a big deal. So your argument lacks sincerity to say the very least! Much as you know well that in today’s money BB would be make a lot more than it’s 100 or whatever it was. But here’s the further dishonesty about it. From 1988 to 1992 (when he took a 5 year sabbatical) Bachchan had the greatest initial around, despite all the under performers (some were hits too too but that wasn’t by and large the case) his was easily the strongest initial by far. It wasn’t like today where a few stars, specially in the right project can bring up those initials. No one could at the time. And so even through that period he had some of the year’s biggest grossers and so on. But was this a problematic period for him? yes! Because by his own impossibly high standards that was a comedown. However he was still the biggest star (it wasn’t even like SRK relative to AAmir or Salman), he was simply the biggest. But still clearly in decline. Now if someone had said then ‘hey there’s no problem, his failures are making more than Anil Kapoor’s hits’, that would be factually true in most cases but that would still miss the point. If SRK just wants to be happy matching Ranveer Singh’s best performance with his underperformer or failure he can certainly do that. But I thought he was still trying to compete with his most immediate peers! Leaving aside the fact that no real audience out there says BM is a great film but Dilwale even as a failure is probably making as much. It doesn’t work that way. A film is liked or not. No one counts the crores of failure. Otherwise the audience would like Ra One as much as Ramleela! Again the disjunctive logic in place:
1)SRK is huge, as big as Aamir or Salman
2)even if he isn’t what did Abhishek do?
3)His flop is making as much as Ranveer’s hit.
4)He’s soooo rich… oooh…
Finally most Bachchan fans that I know don’t mix the father and son. Most of them are not even particularly fans of the son as far as I can tell. However the opposition has been quite eager to mix things in this way over the years. I am not going to defend the father here, even through all of his career mistakes and so on, because despite everything his pre-eminence at his age, measurable in a variety of ways, is for there for all to see. If one is going to be foolish enough to argue against this I won’t be foolish enough (at least anymore) to get into these pointless debates. However I do have a larger point to make and at the risk of repeating myself. I think there are ‘facts’ in the world and mine have never depended on what the other side claims, sincerely or cynically. So if someone wants to be dishonest about Bachchan I won’t be dishonest about SRK or Salman or whoever just to ‘get even’. I will still only say things I genuinely believe in. the whole ‘I said this because x said that’ logic is I’m afraid foreign to me.
As of now his career is over, but one can never say never. I remember Salman’s film flopping left, right and centre! and look today he is the best! Box office is funny..
Any given day SRK is bigger star, but comparing SRK’s box-office to Abhi, is an insult to SRK!
But I still believe if Abhi makes a good film with good director he can turn it around. He has frustrated many people who appreciated Guru, Raavn, Bluff Master, Yuva, Bol Bachchan, Paa etc. Those were some very good movies.
I have heard he is doing a comedy? Hera Pheri 3… he has good comic timing.. one never knows!
Z: I am surprised you are really trying to discuss Satyam’s comment on Abhishek seriously. I mean I thought by now everyone in the forum knows to let these kind of statements go by harmlessly.
I’m sure on the flip side, some die hard srk fan will probably do same when srk gets to the point where his movies collect 20 crore only lifetime.
But I hope you get my point that how does it make sense logically? specially when one writes thousand word comment trying to bring stars down and at the same time defend somebody who can’t collect 25% of those other stars.
It’s precisely about logic. I’m very careful about the claims I make. But the reader also has to do some of the hard work for himself or herself. If I say Ranveer is doing very well and I then say SRK is doing poorly obviously the argument is a bit different in each case. But fans also need to have some honesty and not change the terms of the debate depending on the result. For instance forget the bschchans. Why not restrict your self to Aamir or salman? Say Srk is way behind at this point. Why Are Then Terms Like ‘Top 3’ Invented?! So again the fans need to become models of honesty themselves before they start going after others!
It’s not about having him at 3. It’s about having a term like ‘top 3’.why? Because this is a way of ignoring the gap between the top 3 and him. Why doesn’t one just say ‘top 2’? That makes the most sense within this paradigm. If you asked me I might say this. I might then say it’s Srk and hrithik with the caveat that the latter has been on a downward graph and the former has been on a stagnant one for Very long. All things considered srk has probably been ahead of him in recent years. Ranbir looked to be getting really big but some of his recent stuff has really slowed him down and he doesn’t seen to have an obvious big one. Even Johar isn’t a guarantee these days. I could expand this but it’s a nuanced argument. To keep saying top 3 is a strategy to avoid saying those other two are well-ahead.
Now beyond a point the count doesn’t mean anything. To do a top 10 where someone is at 7 and some else at 8 is a pretty foolish exercise. Beyond a point you get out of that A bracket. There are then some solid stars and that’s about it.
As for abhishek first off I’ve said very much about him after AiW. Unlike many here including yourself I’ve never been I n a war w with the facts! The film didn’t even make 20 by the way. But what’s this ‘negotiation’ about? Maybe I’m a bigger star than abhishek but how does that change anything for srk? Again isn’t this a way of avoiding the conversation or changing the subject? This is the classic political move. It’s a ‘top 3’ or it’s about bachchan fans or its about abhishek. But somehow one never gets to the topic of actually evaluating srk honestly or looking at that reality squarely I’m the face! One just plays these rhetorical games which reveal the anxiety more than anything else.
I get it, you can’t answer my question or don’t want to answer it.
So stop trying to pull down srk and let him be which ever position you think he is at. If you think he is at # 25 behind uday chopra and chuncky pandey, fine, let it be.
What are you going after? That anybody who is not at #1, is not worth it? It would be an odd opinion considering you’re a fan of abhi, no?
problem for you is srk fans are happy with whatever position he is at, so if he is at 3, I’m happy, but you won’t be and will try to make a case that he is not at #3, if I say he is at # 4, you will not be happy and try to make a case that he is not at #4.
The fact is, what ever position srk is at, it annoys the hell out of you, hence you spend so much time on him. you spend more time talking about srk than srk fans do here.
“I get it, you can’t answer my question or don’t want to answer it.”
ha.. thought you were referring to yourself.. but hey don’t get so upset.. I couldn’t be more comprehensive even if I wanted to. But then avoiding facts is always a difficult enterprise. Not blaming you! if you criticize the BJP they say ‘what did the Congress do?’ or ‘you just have 44 seats’ or ‘everyone’s against us, they hate us’. All of this doesn’t exactly excuse the BJP on whatever criticism they’re facing. Of course you’re not as confused about these things when the topic is intolerance or whatever. But you bring in this very ‘political’ logic when it’s about SRK. I’ll just repeat this one point. If one doesn’t want to face up to facts one can keep finding alibis. It’s always then about what others are saying, it’s never about the problems/anxieties revealed by one’s own positions.
The reference is to Utkal feeling certain moments in cocktail are comparable to guru dutt’s best. Or for that matter discovering dostoyevsky in d3 but he has a collection of such hits.
Ha! but on a related note I might be checking this out myself at some point next week. Not a done deal but a lot closer to it now than ever before. before this there’s Star wars (yes ashamed not to have seen it so far), the Tarantino and the Revenant. Would check out the last one first but it’s on limited release.
KRK
12h12 hours ago
KRK @kamaalrkhan
#StarWarsTheForceAwakens was super flop in the gulf n all around the world so it will not effect #Dilwale n #BajiraoMastani at box office.
Dilwale 5 cr on wednesday-
KRK
Dec 23
KRK @kamaalrkhan
RT @gauravgaur9 Wednesday Rajasthan #BajiraoMastani 44 lakhs…. #Dilwale 27 lakhs.. India 9crs and 6 crs..!!!
I don’t know what is going on with you? KRK’s total is still little lower than Taran Adarsh who has 93.39crs in 6 days, so 100 crs is obvious.. not sure what you smoking to not believe this.
krk said wednesday dilwale was 6 cr, and today he says bm first week is 75 cr , while bm in 6 days is already 73.5 cr.
Anyways why am i responding to delusion-ed fans, i wont from now.
Script of superhero film ‘Dragon’ is ready: Ayan Mukerji
Director Ayan Mukerji, who last directed the super-successful ‘Yeh Jawaani Hai Deewani’, is ready with the script of his next film – which will be about a superhero. The film, tentatively titled ‘Dragon’, will star Ranbir Kapoor and Alia Bhatt in the lead.
“People are talking about this film from a very long time. I have completed the script of this film. Finally, Karan Johar has approved the script. So, hopefully in early 2016, I’ll be able to talk more about the movie” Ayan said.
Ranbir is going through a low in his career, what with films like Besharam, Roy, Bombay Velvet and Tamasha, failing at the box office. But Ayan says, failure is part and parcel of the game.
“I know his films are not working right now. But it’s okay. This is part and parcel of the game” he said.
While in between these mediocre box office results from bollywood…star wars is crushing every record in history in usa…in India hype doesn’t seem to be much..looks like will do close to 1bn in usa alone to dethrone Avatar…however Avatar will remain global champ overall
Dilwale: 8 moments that defy logic, even by Rohit Shetty standards
1. Varun Dhawan’s car drifting
Sanjay Mishra calls Mukesh Tiwari ‘Gareebo ka Jackie Shroff’ in the film. Talking in the same lingo, Varun Dhawan is ‘Gareebo ka Vin Diesel’. You cannot stay neutral once you have seen the young actor drifting into the frame as he makes his entry. No we dare not make the comparison. It is the filmmakers. In case you still don’t get it, you have characters saying stuff like, “Ye Fast ho gaya to kya hua, aap furious mat ho.” Mr Shetty, you have heard about trying too hard?
2. Kajol’s slow walk on highway
Kajol definitely makes for the worst and most ridiculous gangster ever. And what’s with the slow walk against the backdrop of explosions?
Wondering what all the protests were about. Saw Dilwale, got it. Indian junta is tired if same old ghisa pita garbage served on a silver platter. Only respite was availibility of aspirin at the concession stands. It was selling like hot cakes. Is picture be diljala diya
In an alternate Universe saw Bajirao Mastani. What a magnificent grandeur of a movie. Bahaut khub mazza aa gai. Amazing acting beautiful visuals spectacular scenes.
The Mano Amano confrontation between the sauts was spell bounding . Movie ne mastana jar diya. Aina Mahal gave us a glimpse of 18 century telepresence . I wish I could also burn the screen of my video conference when I did not like what I saw.
Kudos to SLB
Your video conference ? can i see it ? what had you said that you regret now? Actually, one should never make any notion about anything, without knowing it well. Glad you too loved the movie.
“OF BOLLYWOOD HITS AND THE YEARNING FOR SOMETHING NON-URBAN
“While I was making films, I used to come to Coonoor for shoots and my nephew Imran (Khan) was studying here in Boarding school. That’s when I decided this place gave me peace, this is where I wanted to be. That’s why in the year 2003-4 I started coming here for longer spells. We already had a family house in Coonoor but I started spending more time here. When I moved here I was already in debt, I was also quite depressed having lost both my parents recently .I was just following my heart. It was easy leaving Bollywood as films were just a stop gap arrangement , till I could escape. In the beginning when I moved here my friends thought I was becoming too cloistered that I was a maverick.”
‘MY THIS IS IT’ movement
“That moment when my wife Tina and our kids decided to move to Coonoor with me was my ‘THIS IS IT’ moment. It felt real. The fact that my family was going to join me here made it real. Then we started reading up on cheese making on the internet , it was important for me that Tina had something to do, which she liked and before we knew it the cheese was a hit. And then I became bolder, I loved the idea that when guests came we could teach them how to make cheese and soon it worked well economically as well for us. I don’t advertise my homestay, I deliberately keep everything understated, I like to live life at a QUALITATIVE rather than a QUANTITATIVE level.”
MY BOOK – THE THIRD CURVE
“Well life has come full circle in many ways. I was reading up on energy issues, I had in my days at University in the US, as a physicist been familiar with all these issues, when suddenly I thought we need to talk about this more. I wasn’t thinking of writing a book but I was invited to different places to give lectures and that’s when someone suggested why you don’t put all this in a book. I spoke to Aamir (Khan) he put me in touch with Chikki Sarkar in Penguin, I spoke to many people then I thought I have something to say so why don’t I publish the book myself. See if I wrote a book about Bollywood I would have got a fat pay cheque here I was writing about an issue in which I wanted to have all the freedom, to write as I wanted to say it. And so I wrote the book. It has done well, we printed 5000 copies, of which I think I have sold 3000 myself just by travelling around talking to people from all walks of life. It’s a book which everyone should read from corporates to ordinary people it appeals to everyone. I was in fact surprised by how many people relate to it. I didn’t want to talk about environment as a moral issue, that scares people off it makes them guilty. My message in my book is simple- How do you lead a life of LIMITLESS GROWTH on a planet with FINITE resources?”
AND WHAT DOES AAMIR KHAN THINK OF HIS LIFE AND BOOK
“Well Aamir has always been aware of my ‘off-centre’ thoughts; he was the one who asked me well how will you get this message out to people? Few people know this; you know that phase when Aamir got involved with the Narmada movement. I was the one who got him into this whole debate of large dams. Though I feel bad about it now because he got a lot of flak for it later!”
WHY I WANT TO GO BACK TO FILM MAKING
“I do feel the urgency now to take what I wrote in this book forward maybe as a feature film. But this isn’t the kind of film I would want should be part of the 100 crore club. I need to work on the script I need to drub the language and graphs – approach it in an entirely different way. That’s the challenge. I talk in an intuitive way, I need to write this film first and that’s what I am working on these days.”
this seems like a very interesting idea for a movie…im curious as to what he might create based off of his book..and how that would fit in a very capitalistic society that ‘bollywood’ is today.
Indicine.com @indicine 4h4 hours ago
#BajiraoMastani is outperforming all films at multiplexes today, by a distance. 2nd Friday certain to be bigger than 1st Friday (12.81 cr).
Bajirao Mastani Has Very Strong Weekday Trend
Friday 25 December 2015 12.30 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
Bajirao Mastani has managed a good first week after a decent weekend. The film has had a very strong hold on the weekdays with the best business coming on Thursday out of all the weekdays. The film has grossed 83.50 crore nett in week one with a 45 crore nett and 38.50 crore nett weekend to weekday split.
The film is a huge hit in Mumbai circuit with business in week one going over 30 crore nett. Mumbai circuit had started well enough on day one but is the other circuits barring East India which have slowly come on board for the film which has really helped the film to a solid first week total. The business in West Bengal and Bihar is below the mark but should not make much a difference now as the rest of India is now doing good to very good business.
Recovery had looked impossible for the film on the initial it had taken but its weekday business has totally changed the scenario for the film. On this weekday trend the film is certain to hit 150 crore nett mark which would ensure recovery but there is a chance that the film could even go to 175 crore nett depending on the second week figures.
Dilwale Has Good First Week
Friday 25 December 2015 12.00 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
Dilwale has had a good first week of around 97 crore nett though the trend over the weekdays is average. For a normal film a 20% drop from Monday to Thursday would be good but Dilwale is an event film and although the weekend was strong it was not an optimum release which meant less business was consumed over the weekend so the weekdays should have done better. Also the weekday business is less than Bajirao Mastani despite a much better weekend.
The film has fared very well in West Bengal, Nizam / Andhra, Mysore and Tamil Nadu / Kerala. In the latter it will become the highest Hindi grosser of the year in just ten days.
The problem is all the above markets are not the core Hindi markets and that is where the film has suffered. Mumbai circuit has had strong competition from day one so the performance in Mumbai is understandable but North and Central India should be collecting much better especially the latter as its masala genre and central India normally leads for the genre.
The film does not have a problem for recovery as the first week in India is big enough with reasonable holds and Overseas is huge but eventually the India theatrical business will not be the sort that is expected from a big Shahrukh Khan film. The 300 crore nett number going around was never going to happen due to two films releasing together but 200 crore nett or close to it was a realistic expectation but it is going to fell short of that.
BOI is reporting overseas more frequently than usual, though official figures are not out yet. But, they are still not talking about US/Canada where ,to everyone’s surprise, BM is leading.
In other overseas market also, it has picked up, and dont be surprised if it performs neck to neck, atleast in uk, australia, this is really possible.
Bajirao Has Growth On Day Eight Dilwale Flat
Saturday 26 December 2015 01.30 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
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Bajirao Mastani got benefit of the Christmas holiday as it showed growth of 20% from the previous day and the business of the film will be in the 12.50 crore nett range. The collections on day eight will be in the same range as collections on day one due to the holiday. The total is also in the same range as the Bajrangi Bhaijaan day eight figures but it was not a holiday for that film. The 12.75 crore nett by Bajrangi Bhaijaan was the highest day eight total this year and Bajirao Mastani can challenge it when final numbers come in the morning.
Dilwale was flat as it grossed 7.50 crore nett on its eighth day which is slightly lower than yesterday. Dilwale also got benefit of the holiday but that was cancelled out by the loss of screens at multiplexes. The figure is pretty decent as the fall could have been huge as there was a heavy loss of screen time at most major multiplex chains.
Dilwale has crosssed 100 crore nett mark in eight days with a total of around 104.50 crore nett while Bajirao Mastani is closing on in on Dilwale and the 100 crore nett mark with collections of around 96.50 crore nett.
BM is double of dilwale as per some trade sources, i think this could be revised based on below –
Girish Johar @girishjohar 6h6 hours ago
Early trends…#BajiraoMastani will be almost double #Dilwale at domestic BO today …. Estimated
PRAKASH JAJU @Prakashjaaju 10h10 hours ago
Lag raha hai ki #BajiraoMastani aaj lagi hai … Itni terrific hai … Star Wars ko bhi khaa gayi.
Bajirao Mastani is outperforming all other films at the box office on Friday and this includes both the Hollywood release ‘Star Wars: The Force Awakens’ and Shah Rukh Khan’s ‘Dilwale’.
The lead seems to be quite big, because multiplexes are performing at a much higher level of occupancy as compared to yesterday and even better than the 1st Friday.
The film could be looking at a total in the range of Rs 15-16 crore on 2nd Friday, depending on how well the night shows perform.
Dilwale is performing well too, but the film has lost a lot of its shows and screens to Star Wars and Bajirao Mastani, due to the latter performing very well during the weekdays. The Rohit Shetty film could be looking at a total in the 10 crore range.
i dont comment without any substantial source, to prove why i am saying so, i had to posted these tweets from trade guys and the indicine. I knew it had posted that indicine link but to substantiate my claim, there is no facility i could refer to other comment. Anyways, i dont mind that.
Redchillies calculator has become really famous since monday , Taran is giving dilwale daily collections very close to BM, not just they gave Mon 10.09 cr, Tue 9.42 cr. against Mon 10.25 cr, Tue 9.40 cr. of BM.
some funny tweets –
RedChilli Calculator @RedchilliC 3h3 hours ago
@girishjohar Our RED CHILLIES CALCULATOR figure –
Bajirao Mastani to open at 12.8 crore and then maintain almost the same average in its first 8 days, hence coming close to the 100 crore mark, is simply remarkable
Bajirao Mastani Eight Day Business
Saturday 26 December 2015 15.30 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
Bajirao Mastani (Hindi) has grossed 95.50 crore nett in eight days. The daily business of Bajirao Mastani till date is as follows.
Day One – 12,25,00,000
Day Two – 15,00,00,000
Day Three – 17,75,00,000
Day Four – 10,00,00,000
Day Five – 9,25,00,000
Day Six – 9,00,00,000
Day Seven – 10,25,00,000
Day Eight – 12,00,00,000
TOTAL – 95,50,00,000
The film started doing very well on Monday and that has continued into its second week though the jump on Christmas Day holiday could have been higher especially for a film which had such a strong weekday trend. The film is doing excellent business in Mumbai and Mysore, good in other circuits with under performance in West Bengal, Bihar, Assan and Orissa.
Dilwale Eight Day Business
Saturday 26 December 2015 15.30 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
Dilwale has grossed 104 crore nett plus in eight days. The daily business of Dilwale till date is as follows.
Day One – 20,85,00,000
Day Two – 19,50,00,000
Day Three – 23,00,00,000
Day Four – 9,50,00,000
Day Five – 8,25,00,000
Day Six – 7,75,00,000
Day Seven – 8,00,00,000
Day Eight – 7,50,00,000
TOTAL – 1,04,35,00,000
The film is continuing its extraordinary run in West Bengal but the performance is not what it should be in main circuits like Mumbai, Delhi /UP and East Punjab.
SATYAMSHOT 
December 20, 2015 at 7:26 AM
Dilwale Second Day Business
Sunday 20 December 2015 12.30 IST
Dilwale fell a little on Saturday as collections went down in single screen circuits and the circuits it opened well barring Mysore which managed to gain . The business of Dilwale over the first two days is as follows.
Thursday – 20,85,00,000
Friday – 19,50,00,000 apprx
TOTAL – 40,85,00,000
The second day number is still good but the performance is not good all over as it should be for a film like this.
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December 20, 2015 at 7:33 AM
Thursday – 20,85,00,000
Friday – 19,50,00,000 apprx
TOTAL – 40,85,00,000 ?
When it is about srk, boi forgets simple mathematics aswell.
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December 20, 2015 at 7:27 AM
Bajirao Mastani Second Day Business
Sunday 20 December 2015 13.30 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
Bajirao Mastani showd gains of around 22% on day two which is decent though gains really had to be more. The business of Bajirao Mastaani over the first two days is as follows.
Thursday – 12,25,00,000
Friday – 15,00,00,00 apprx
TOTAL – 27,25,00,000
The film is good in Maharashtra where the film has caught up with Dilwale and even surpassed in some cities but the rest of the country is still lagging. Bihar, West Bengal, Assam and Orissa are very low..
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December 20, 2015 at 7:58 AM
Just Back from Dilwale, had gone with family.
16 Conclusions with spoilers:
1) The show was not houseful. Surprise!
2) I was quite excited for the movie, but the same wears off in the opening 20 minutes when you get to see fake romance of varun-kirti.
3) By the time of the interval, I felt I could have walked out, weak first half. But I thought at that point that may be I alone was not liking it, but it happened that many people were heard saying the film is boring during interval.
4) Gerua looks awesome on screen.
5) The problem with the film is it that it combines comedy and drama, and the hence the latter comes across as fake or unbelievable. I say audience often makes the leap, but it has to be believable, one needs to feel for character. But I couldn’t!
6) Kaali the name is lame. Pathetic! The fact that the two families meet and there is no security arrangement! The fact that Kaali and Meera who are so smart don’t want protection for either of their families! Vinod Chopra doubts Kabir Bedi shall agree, but still walks into his mansion like a lamb!
7) The Drama never picks up, but the second half is a release and bearable and hence I could continue with the film. The characters other than leads are half baked and not developed properly.
8) The movie takes so many inspirations : Hum, Mission Impossible 2, DDLJ, Fast and Furious, K3G, How I met your mother etc…
9) Seriously Kajol what were you thinking, you came back for this?
10) The music in action sequences and important occasions ( like the meeting of the two families) is copied/inspired from Con Air.
11) All through the movie there is build up of the scene when Kaali is made known to everyone else other than kajol and his henchman, but the scene is such a downer in the climax. It had to be serious, it can’t be the funny guy Boman. And if Boman is shooting at SRK, I expected Kajol (Meera) to shoot or do something like that, rather than taking the shot. And ok, she takes the shot more drama, than Kaali should kill or do something real bad to Boman. So it all leads to that the Varun-Kirti never know the flashback! Such a downer!
12) Loved Janam Janam!
13) The movie shall do average business, might wrap around 100-140 crores.
14) It is the drama, where one feels let down, and the unoriginal sequences between Kajol and SRK. The ending with a DDLJ dialogue! Such a pain! I believe the same story with a better director who can handle drama could have been sure shot fire! But Rohit fails to handle it properly, the fact is one needs a proper villain for such a film, people have died in the past, and more importantly SRK loses a father and one fails to see his pain for the same. Vinod Khanna is killed for no wrong of his own, but for bitterness of Kabir Bedi. It’s like priyanka chopra forgetting in DON Sequel that DON killed her brother! It’s like chennai express which made you emotionally feel for the leads, which I failed to feel here.
15) 2 stars.
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December 20, 2015 at 8:06 AM
*10) I guess the music…
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December 20, 2015 at 8:27 AM
Rooney,
1)Masala film is seen differently by each one, some like something, that’s why you cant predict how others liked.
2) Masala genre has so much going on, and i think Shetty tried to put everything with more of drama contrary to his strength and obviously jokes falls flat here. Here, problem is everything is not in right proportion and doesn’t blend well.
3) 100- 140 cr is low number but upper range around would be 150 cr possible going by the feedback.
4) Where is your Bajirao Mastani review ? This deserves to be watched with family, it is U rated and contrary to its genre it has so much going on that one time watch is not enough.
5) while watching BM for first time, i missed so many details and meaning of expression and dialogue. I was so captivated by scale and imagination.
6) It never slows down, its editing is sharp and to the point without stretching any scene and without being melodramatic. Though, some portions in second half feels repetitive making not so entertaining second half. But, First 30 minutes itself are worth 2 ticket price.
7) BM makes you feel like you are watching something epic, during ”Mohe Rang do Laal”song and many scenes between leads, it feels nothing less than Mugle Azam.
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December 20, 2015 at 11:35 AM
1) I believe a great masala movie is liked by one and all but for exceptions.
2) I don’t believe this was masala, if this is masala, it’s an insult to masala. This Rohit Shetty spectacularly failing at Drama!
3) Agreed everything is not in right proportion. I also believe the sequence of events is also bad. They should have left something for the second half.
4) Let’s see how it goes, I see it failing and that too badly. But I am not BO expert 🙂 So don’t knw!
5) Will see BM next week! Myself and mom like Kajol a lot… so went for her!
6) If BM is exciting and epic I am in for it!
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December 20, 2015 at 8:35 AM
I saw it yesterday.
Didn’t like the drama part much. The humor in the movie was nice and the trailer doesn’t do justice to it. All the sequences in the movie looks nice and flows properly that were shown in trailer.
Good to see Lever after long time.
Movie is not as bad as how some here tries to portrays it. It’s not like Bollywood is dishing out Moghul E Azam every Friday.
My wife liked it a lot but I wouldn’t go see it again. But than again, I don’t see any movies in theatre twice.
Just about everybody in the theatre seem to enjoy it and laughed thru out the movie so not sure how it will do but I think the movie will take a heavy fall on Monday.
Will check out BM on Tuesday.
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December 20, 2015 at 8:45 AM
Today D has finally opened in every singe centre. It should touch 25 cr today based on night shows. It is behaving like a single screen movie. Sundays are better than Friday and Saturday lesser than Friday. Monday will get a clearer picture where it is headed. Purely from economics point of view BM needs 130 to 140 rc to be a clean hit and D needs around 125 to be a clean hit. But as I said with HNY the movie will be a disappointment at those totals. But at the moment I don’t see both movies doing much more than 100 to 130 range. BM is a disaster at every single screen. It is doing good in plexes but not sure how much far that will take it. D is doing well in single screens but not up to the mark in the multiplexes of Maharashtra where BM is doing very well. Next week if the single screens of Delhi and Rajasthan decide to screen D there is slight hope for the movie. But at the moment all this is clutching at straws. What’s clear is that the WOM of movie is not great and we are not going to see any big totals here.
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December 20, 2015 at 10:19 AM
“It should touch 25 cr today based on night shows”
No way, I think it’ll be lucky if it gets to 19 crore today.
BM will close the gap even more today or might even over take it if the trend continues.
We’ll get clear picture on Monday. a lot of time media plays a role in what we end up believing based on what they keep blasting us with in the name of news. Ground reality could be very different but since I’m not in india, I can’t tell.
Based on some news and the crap raghav kept on spamming this blog with, I surly thought that BM would have collected more than dilwale on day two. Heck he was even making a case for it on Firday itself.
Let’s see what’s in the store on day 3.
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December 20, 2015 at 11:37 AM
if this was 75 % drama with 25 % comedy, it would have been a winner. This is 30 % drama with 70 % comedy! And it fails spectacularly.
(spoilers)
Like if this was serious business Boman has to be killed! There has to be grief for the death of a good father… Vinod.
I feel it shall tank on Monday from the reaction on my side.
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December 20, 2015 at 10:43 AM
spoilers…
Dilwale is what they say a perfect rollercoaster ride but somehow all in my group were able to land safely and came out with positive emotions.
The apologetic ending scene with bade bade deshon mein aisee chotee chotee baatei…… as if the srk-kajol combo were asking the audience to overlook the shortcomings and hinting at ‘times have changed’ and we can’t give you guys a DDLJ again.
Personally hated it to loved it to hated again to loved it at the end ……..wanted to tell Rohit single brilliant sequences can be a complete cinematic experience and presented as a motion picture.
It somewhat hinted at your scheming to make quick bucks looking at srk’s empty date diary and Christmas spot left vacant by the big shots.
Kajol walking in that confrontation scene with a gun in the middle of the movie was itself a paisa vasool moment for me. It restored my earlier belief demonic / fractious portrayals still seem hotter on screen. She was simply brilliant at many places and acting wise up there with the best of the best. Simply loved her though SRK needs to be told man get over that impish /giddy faces you make. You are 50 years old …….but that bloody distressed face when lying upside down in the car waiting to be shot was Baazigar..’isque which until today none have it in them to come close to…
My brief take –
Went with low expectations but was pleasantly surprised by Dilwale. Yes one should not look at the story with a microscope coz it wouldn’t then make sense but having said that there is not a single dull moment in the movie. Not once did i get bored in the movie. Kajol has some amazing screen presence and her acting is as always superb. SRK is his usual self , brilliant at times but like always tends to border on overacting. Varun Dhawan and Kriti Sanon both make up the young brigade and Varun should just take that spot getting vacant by Salman doing inane stuff while still looking good. He seemed very much at ease. Kriti Sanon represents the new upscale/ elegant looks possibly a result of cross breeding among baby boomers. The SRK-Kajol chemistry is great as usual. Kajol fans will love the sequences which she pulls of with aplomb. The only person wasted in the movie is Boman Irani and should have been given a better role to justify his talent. Overall Dilwale is surely a one time watch as holiday viewing.
I had the theater packed full at my end. Box office wise the movie is likely to settle down once the expectations come down and some of the hostile / ‘intolerance’ malicious intent take a back seat.
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December 20, 2015 at 10:57 AM
The apologetic ending scene with bade bade deshon mein aisee chotee chotee baatei…… as if the srk-kajol combo were asking the audience to overlook the shortcomings and hinting at ‘times have changed’ and we can’t give you guys a DDLJ again.
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December 20, 2015 at 10:59 AM
Rofl.
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December 20, 2015 at 11:32 AM
To say that overlook the shortcomings, is like saying there were very few. I did say the entire movie is a shortcoming.
Agreed on the SRK’s giddy faces! It was funny… seeing an oldie trying the same!! But then may be it’s for die hard SRK-Kajol fans.
Kajol was good in that one sequence of badass, but rest of the character graph doesn’t match! Like the first sequence of betrayal shows bravado, intelligence, cunningness and shrewdness, which isn’t there on display anywhere else! Like when drug villains turn up at her cafe, Boman beating Varun, Taking shot for SRK! I did have loved to see the real Meera Badass after 15 years like Kaali! But well if that was Kaali’s final sequence after 15 years that is beating a few goons and then leaving a gun holding villain to shoot… good that they didn’t show the real meera!
One doesn’t look at it from microscopic level I believe if the film engages! Happy it got u hooked… I failed in that regard to buy it… or rather to feel for it! I found the track of Varun and Kirti half baked and quite dull.
Thanx for your views though, as it’s good to know other views!
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December 20, 2015 at 10:54 AM
Possible spoilers and if moderator can add a line to my take on the movie.
Box office wise as I said earlier its the HNY fatigue which may come in the way of few undecided minds but wom will then overcome some of it.
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December 20, 2015 at 10:56 AM
Correction –
“…..wanted to tell Rohit single brilliant sequences ‘cannot’ be a complete cinematic experience and presented as a motion picture”
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December 20, 2015 at 11:26 AM
If anyone liked the first one:
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December 20, 2015 at 11:29 AM
Komal Nahta @KomalNahta 3h3 hours ago
Sunday is a bountiful day for #Dilwale . Film has finally opened at every centre today & collections r very good; superb at new centres
Komal Nahta @KomalNahta 7h7 hours ago
Enjoyed watching this parody. Take a look:
Sporting SRK here !
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December 20, 2015 at 11:53 AM
This Dilwale Parody is Brutal…But Then So is SRK’s rebuttal!
“this parody seems to be making fun of all things King Khan until he himself appears in the video and proceeds to give it back to the channel in the witty manner only he can! Shah Rukh is a true sport, what say?”
courtesy Pinkvilla
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December 20, 2015 at 12:03 PM
yeah liked it… i was expecting a normal parody… one thing cool about SRK is he is quite cool about such things!
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December 20, 2015 at 12:13 PM
I am not surprised seeing srk in it. He doesnt care for originality. His focus is all on money whatever the way it comes. But his fans try to project him as beacon of good cinema while he has nothing to do with cinema leave aside good one. He is pure businessman.
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December 20, 2015 at 2:33 PM
Kind of like your agenda driven comments.
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December 20, 2015 at 2:36 PM
This is great, as good as the one they did for Prem Ratan Dhan Payo. This one is little better due to SRK adding his two bits.
SRK never had problem making fun of himself or his films. He doesn’t get all defensive about things.
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December 20, 2015 at 11:54 AM
Girish Johar @girishjohar 17m17 minutes ago
Business of both #Dilwale & #BajiraoMastani good today
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December 20, 2015 at 12:08 PM
This theater is the barometer for BOI where they post occupancy before 12:00 pm shows on first day.
Can they do it on Monday ?
BM is almost sold out before 12 pm show and all the shows after that are also 50% booked, Dilwale booking almost non existent barring one morning show where it is booked 30-40% and night shows are also no booking. 😦
http://in.bookmyshow.com/buytickets/spice-cinemas-noida/cinema-ncr-PVSP-MT/20151221
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December 20, 2015 at 2:39 PM
So raghav, did BM collected more on day 3 in your world like it did on day 1 and day 2? 🙂
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December 20, 2015 at 12:24 PM
Actresses Roundtable with Rajeev Masand, full video-
http://www.ibnlive.com/videos/movies/watch-roundtable-discussion-with-top-bollywood-actresses-1178772.html
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December 20, 2015 at 12:51 PM
SRK – hamari dushmani hui toh Aamir bahut aage nikal gaya
Salman khan – Bahut aage nikal gaya
SRK – Itne aage ab nazar nahin aata #BigBoss9
LOL
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December 20, 2015 at 2:12 PM
Yes a very fun episode on BiggBoss 9
Kajol too joined Salman and SRK to kick in nostalgia and a revisit to Kuch Kuch Hota Hai.
somewhere else a smart tete a tete on social media-
During a fan interaction on his social media, Shah Rukh Khan stated that there was no specific formula to be an actor and that one learns acting till one dies.
Talking to his fans on his social media, the actor was asked by someone when will he learn acting to which the witty superstar replied – “You never learn acting till you die. It’s not multiples and formulae.”
Furthermore he added, “As an actor or star, I like doing all kind of genres.”
When asked by a fan as to why his lectures at various prestigious institutes across the world including University of Edinburgh don’t seem to conform to the standards of excellence in his films, the actor said, “My lectures are to motivate, my films are for entertainment. The mix of the two happens seldom.”
Shah Rukh’s latest release Dilwale released this Friday to big numbers on the box office. The film has been directed by Rohit Shetty and also stars Kajol, Varun Dhawan and Kriti Sanon.
Credits: IANS / Pinkvilla
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December 20, 2015 at 1:14 PM
Taran Adarsh @taraadarsh
#Dilwale biz zooms upwards today… Most centres have opened… Family audience pouring in large numbers… ₹ 65 cr +/- weekend expected.
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December 20, 2015 at 2:30 PM
@KRK
Today #Dilwale collections can reach to 23-24Cr. Good growth.
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December 20, 2015 at 2:37 PM
@KRK
SRK has already sold #Dilwale for all over India except Mumbai so protesters are destroying distributrs n exhibitors n it’s really very bad.
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December 20, 2015 at 2:45 PM
@prakashjaaju
#Dilwale is not bad but #BajiraoMastani & public agitation usko khaa gaye.
Jo Desh aapko binaa bhed bhaav ke itna pyaar, itni izzat, itni success deta hai uski aapko izzat karna chahiye.
Never saw such unity by public in boycotting a film.
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December 20, 2015 at 2:48 PM
I think this idea that people are not watching the film because of what he said is utter, unadulterated nonsense.
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December 20, 2015 at 2:51 PM
What do you think about the protests at various cinemas? Is that also “utter, unadulterated nonsense”
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December 20, 2015 at 3:35 PM
that’s not the difference between a 200 crore film and a 150 crore one!
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December 20, 2015 at 3:46 PM
This is like the competition argument. Lots of solos underperform but when there is competition you can use it to excuse everything. It’s entirely possible that Dilwale didn’t interest too many people (like CE). And/or WOM is much worse than we think. The problem with the latter explanation is that many films that otherwise tank still have huge numbers for some days. Here that’s not the case. Even accounting for competition. Yes BM is hurting it for sure because people have an option. But I think a film with a very strong start would have put up better numbers for a while. The trailers never excited people. We’ve had some of those debates here. I thought they were like other Shetty films but many didn’t agree. Ultimately one still gave Shetty the benefit of the doubt for obvious reasons. The one point I did think was worth making was that in mixing this whole nostalgia track with his usual masala Shetty was doing something different (Qalandar brought this up at one point). This wasn’t the case with CE. Similarly relying on that nostalgia was fine for SRK except that that’s also a much older audience by this point. For a younger multiplex demographic DDLJ is somewhat ancient. Maybe there wasn’t enough here to attract them otherwise. CE after all had Deepika too. She was going through a peak then. Some of us pointed this out at the time. When a film is a hit if fans make it only about one star it’s not surprising that they learn the wrong lessons. I ultimately don’t know where this film will end up. If it doesn’t do more than 140-150 which seems to be the case currently this is a huge disappointment any way one looks at it. If it does even less than that you’re just looking at a failure. My only point either way is that competition and protests aren’t responsible for everything. Nor are his statements. If that were the case why did even this many people show up?! I’ll again bring up the PK example. The reasons aren’t important here but that film opened to 26 crore. Had it opened this way with competition everyone would have used this as a reason.
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December 20, 2015 at 2:52 PM
Indiacine.com @Indiacine
Bad News: #Dilwale shows cancelled in Mangalore. PVR Multiplex cancels all shows for weekdays. Other plexes have stopped advance booking.
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December 20, 2015 at 3:27 PM
I think the incidents were sporadic than wide. The major centres were not affected.
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December 20, 2015 at 3:44 PM
“I think the incidents were sporadic than wide. The major centres were not affected.”
Yes that’s why it is 20+cr average and not 10 crores but today’s Mysore incidents which is major territory and one of the only areas where Dilwale showed growth on Saturday. But on Sunday, it went down. PVR has stopped Dilwale screenings for the rest of the week from its cinemas.
@Indiacine
#Dilwale: In Mangalore, the Sunday collections we received were lower than Friday and Saturday. Reason: Shows were cancelled. Protests
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December 20, 2015 at 3:49 PM
“that’s not the difference between a 200 crore film and a 150 crore one!”
Yes.. but Dilwale doing 150 crs will be greater achievement than HNY or PRDP doing 200 crores if you understand the overall competition and issues. Folks will easily forget everything and then simply remember that SRK-Rohit Shetty movie did only 150 crores but its not that it has more negative WOM than HNY or PRDP it is just it released on lesser screens and had another release. They did same thing with JTHT calling it just 120 crore odd total which was actually not bad compared to its opening and trending.
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December 20, 2015 at 3:59 PM
I personally don’t think HNY did more than 175 and some sources still have that number. But leaving this aside and even accepting the 200 crore thing I think the fairest thing one can say if Dilwale does 150 is that it has performed more or less like HNY. In other words a solo Dilwale might have done 175 or something. I will agree though that at 150 Dilwale all things considered might be a more liked film than HNY at 175 or even 200. Not sure about PRDP. This film did very poorly too but I think it was liked somewhat in Western India. Of course that 150 isn’t in the bank yet. I think there’s a fair chance at this point that Dilwale won’t do more than 120 or 130. I would think that 150 is really the best case scenario at this point. The rest of the stuff (its a hit at 120.. even assuming one buys this.. or that it was liked more than HNY) is to be honest a very poor consolation prize. SRK did Dilwale for one and one reason only, to have something bigger than CE!
I will however point this out. every big SRK film after OSO has either not opened stratospherically or if it has it has collapsed later. There are only two exceptions. CE opened hugely and trended well enough. RNBDJ opened well but was a pale shadow of Ghajini. However it trended very well. Ra One collapsed after a huge start. Don 1 & 2 were lethargic to begin. Competition was used as an excuse for the first one but the latter even with a solo release on Christmas was still slow throughout (didn’t do too badly but trailed the first one all things considered). JTHJ was again lethargic. HNY more or less fizzled out after one huge day and a few other big ones. One doesn’t need to get into MNIK. There is simply no doubt that he’s behind Aamir or Salman (for those who might have had it so far). The initials flatter to deceive beyond a point. You have a certain stardom, you have a history, then you also appear in the right kinds of films, you can land the right initials. But if you keep failing to excite genuine audience interest even when the films work (I said it with CE, the film doesn’t help SRK the star except as a pure box office matter) at some point it catches up. And here the whole SRK-Kajol pitch clearly didn’t excite enough people. Would a better film have worked? Sure! No one’s denying this. And I’m fair about this stuff. I think the whole DDLJ angle has probably been excessive here and made for an uneven film. Otherwise I doubt it’s that bad. But if one is only going to make it about SRK before release one cannot change the terms of the debate later. I do think he made a mistake here. He should just have left himself in Shetty’s hands. He shouldn’t have done the whole DDLJ deal, he should have forgotten about Kajol. Just a repeat of CE would have been good enough here. The problem (and this has always been SRK’s weakness) is that he’s always been far too cynical about this stuff in the sense that he’s always considered a big film to be just one big advertising campaign. Yes that’s part of the game but to reach the highest peaks the films still have to be genuine. Yes Shetty makes lowbrow stuff but there’s a rhythm to those films. If they were that easy everyone would have his record. Even Salman who’s clearly at his peak and gets big numbers for every film cannot trend that way for most of his films because they are ultimately junk efforts. So no matter who you are relatively quality means something, even if it’s a lowbrow genre. SRK does believe in some of the lesser stuff he does but here he doesn’t quite have Aamir’s mind. On the other hand with the commercial stuff it’s only about marketing for him. So in a way he falls between Salman and Aamir. if you’re that way you need directors who can fix those problems. We talk about all kinds of stars here but hasn’t SRK’s career been incredibly poor for 10-12 years now given the choices he’s made? It cannot be said that Salman could do better films. He’s that kind of star. Aamir need not even be mentioned. But couldn’t SRK have had a better mix? At least after the OSO/CDI double. A lot of his problems are self-created. He has enough of a base and could have been really up there with those other two but he hasn’t for quite sometime and this latest film just underlines it. Failing in any way with Shetty is much more damning than failing elsewhere. He now has HNY and this back to back. Who approves a film like HNY? Shouldn’t SRK have known better?
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December 20, 2015 at 4:08 PM
It’s ridiculous to think that all these negativity being passed around on the social media with addition of protest in Gujrat, Rajasthan, Bihar, etc and theatres no showing if for the weekend, limited screen space doesn’t impact the movie.
If it was so bad, it would have crashed on day 2 itself like many big movies have.
The fact is, where ever it’s playing, it’s holding up well which is reflected in the collection.
prakashjaaju comments says it all. There are forces out there who are hell bent on making sure the film flops.
Just look at this blog and see the overtime raghav is putting in to spread negativity. He/she talks like collection of Dilwale are below All is Well.
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December 20, 2015 at 4:16 PM
I don’t know how much worse the numbers could be. Unless you were expecting Besharam? So many big films flop that nonetheless put up big numbers for a while. Surely one hasn’t missed all of this? by the way no one is saying the film is bad in the usual sense of the word. But clearly it hasn’t done it for the audience. If a film does 200 you can say it would have done much more without competition and talk about the protests and the lost revenue and so on. But if a film stops at 150 how much can you possibly add? And what if it stops far short of this. Let’s not get into Raghav and so on. We’re not talking about extreme views. As for Jaju and so on you know when you get into conspiracy talk to explain why a Shetty/SRK film isn’t doing well enough you’ve already lost the plot. Again it might do better than expected from this point on. It might find a base at a lower level. But it just doesn’t look very promising. I’d say looking at the three day numbers that the signs are ominous.
By the way negativity on social media is a factor these days. I do think several films are just destroyed even before they get started. But this isn’t Raavan or BV we’re talking about, or films vulnerable to that sort of thing. Surely Shetty is too big for that! Today the film is expected to be 23 crores or more. doesn’t look like a film being destroyed by these external forces. It’s not being liked enough. It was flat on Sat and the Sun jump isn’t huge. Of course the week will decide the final fate of the film. But this isn’t about all this other extraneous stuff. These things never change the essential narrative on a film. No Salman film fails like Jai Ho but that film nonetheless did! had there been competition and some of this stuff people would have used those excuses.
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December 20, 2015 at 4:20 PM
It is very easy to get deceived by the numbers. No wonder folks do that here often. Like Ra.One did 115 crs and JTHJ did 120 crores, so its similar or pathetic or whatever. There’s lot to understand between the words like JTHT released in 2500 screens had 45 crs weekend and then 120 crores alongside SOS which did 110 crores and that wouldn’t have been possible even without little appreciation. If it was negative it would have ended at 70-80 crores after that 45cr. If you don’t understand that, you can never judge a movie’s performance.Similary if you look at 225 of CE and 200 of HNY, you wouldn’t understand the impact and appreciation of CE (OUATIM2 alongside it).
Overall I would be fine with a lesser performance Diwale and this discouraging from SRK to sign Rohit Shetty’s next rightaway. But I do understand the situation and collection far better than folks turning a blind eye.
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December 20, 2015 at 5:54 PM
actually it’s never been rocket science with the box office even if the trade, sites like BOI and many fans try to make it so. I could argue about the screens and so on (a lot of this stuff is also mythologized) but for now I’ll just say that everything which isn’t an utter disaster isn’t a film that has found some sort of ‘appreciation’. a flop doesn’t mean everyone dislikes a film, just the majority. yes if just about everyone dislikes it it might be a total tank that adds nothing but how many flops do that?
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December 20, 2015 at 4:29 PM
Master, just so I have this correct, you want satyam to compare apple to apple? And that to which will go against his agenda of making SRK look bad?
HAHAHA, I know Chrsitmas is around the corner but santa is not that generous 🙂
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December 20, 2015 at 8:47 PM
I completely agree with satyam. The idea that people are not watching D because of the protests is bull crap. The WOM is not strong that’s the only reason it is not flying.
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December 20, 2015 at 9:32 PM
Acc to many Dilwale max capacity is 26 crores. So, you expect it to touch 25 crs everyday to show that its flying? Rohit Shetty movies don’t have exceptional WOM anytime. WOM is not an issue and it is doing good as much it can do at this time with the screens available even if you ignore the protests issues(which I’ve already mentioned is marginal maybe like 5%).
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December 20, 2015 at 2:33 PM
Indeed fund day on TV today !
COLORS @ColorsTV 3h3 hours ago
Crazy episode of #DilwaleOnCNWK begins. @iamsrk @Varun_dvn @WhoSunilGrover @kritisanon @KajolAtUN @KapilSharmaK9 @sumona24 @kikusharda
COLORS @ColorsTV 4h4 hours ago
Tune in NOW on #SRKSalmanOnBB9 & be a part of a spectacular history! @BeingSalmanKhan @iamsrk @KajolAtUN
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December 20, 2015 at 2:39 PM
So did BM take over Dilwale on day 3 or no?
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December 20, 2015 at 2:53 PM
Star Wars weekend come-238 million
Dilwaale-1.87million
BM-1.66 million
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December 20, 2015 at 3:00 PM
As per early estimates Dilwale 22.5. -23 crores on Sunday while BM is 17 crores
Weekend-Dilwale 63.6-64 crores BM 46 crores
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December 20, 2015 at 3:06 PM
Believe Dilwale will end at 140 crores and BM around 115 crores. BM might surprise with a better hold and add a few more crores.
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December 20, 2015 at 3:37 PM
wow, BM has done remarkably well in the US. As I said a couple of days ago had this been a solo release it would have done a lot more. Because a certain kind of period film does rather well in these parts. UJ was a disaster in India, did about a million in the US, JA was decent in India, did OSO-like business in the US. Now we see BM doing as much as Dilwale.
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December 20, 2015 at 3:56 PM
Great numbers by BM.
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December 20, 2015 at 4:38 PM
Guys stop crying. There are 2 open weeks left with two big extended holiday weekend. There is so much space left for movies to collect. There is star wars next week but it is likely to affect BM more than dilwale. Even BM suffered due to cancellation of shows from first day itself.
Biggest ever disruption happened was for Aarakshan when movie was not release in many states for first 8.5 days. But even the. We didnt see such excuses as fans are putting here for dilwale. Aarakshan clearly lost 10-15 cr due to non release in various state for first 8.5 days. I myself could watch it on second saturday when first show started at 3 pm. And many people didnt know that it is finally released and hype went down also competition came from next week releases. But movie didnt survive much even after full fledge release later as it was average one and not much appreciated. But no one makes excuse for its non performance as fans and trade are doing in case of dilwale.
These small incidents of cancelling shows here are there as usual for big movies including Fanna, my name is khan, Jodha Akbar, PK and a lot more. There has been history for this, but it doesnt make much difference in long run maximum one crore to two. Collections cant go like from 200 cr to 175 cr.
Bajirao Mastaani also faced this disruption in many cities of shows cancellation from Day one but we havent seen excuses. No successful makes such excuses neither fanna or pk or jodha akbar. Though, my name is khan did as it wasnt successful and crashed after huge weekend inspite of providing security at places to continue screening without disruption.
There incident happen at one acreen or couple of theatres in couple of cities, this makes hardly any difference to overall collection not more than a crore or two.
No one is going to keep procltecting for week after week, it settled down on sunday for dilwale, and if some arise on sunday it will settle in a day or two. There are 2 more weeks for uninterrupted run.
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December 20, 2015 at 9:20 PM
”Dilwaale-1.87million
BM-1.66 million”
Guys, Dilwale collections are included with Thusday 20$ previews. There were 2-3 shows were running at every locatin on thursday. And we know how crazy srk fans are to pay 20$ anytime for him.
Considering that, BM > Dilwale in usa.
Though, we will never know unless we have breakdown available.
And Taran Adarsh and whole media is silent on USA figures.
One thing is sure BM will score over dilwale by the end of its run.
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December 20, 2015 at 4:19 PM
Bajirao Mastani, Dilwale 3rd Day Box Office Collections
Bajirao Mastani has shown phenomenal growth in business on Sunday, what with collections of the film set to come in the 18 crore range. The Sanjay Leela Bhansali directed film picked up by around 20% on Saturday and then again by 20-25% on Sunday, giving the film a very good weekend of around 47 crore in India.
The historical is carrying excellent word-of-mouth and looking at the weekend trends, there are chances that the film could collect 10 crore plus on Monday. Usually, when there is 20% or more growth on Day 2 and Day 3, it’s also a sign that the film has been liked by the audience and will hold during weekdays.
The other release, Shah Rukh Khan’s Dilwale wasn’t so lucky. As far as protests and cancellation of shows were concerned, it was a peaceful day. But there were a few stray incidents, like in Mangalore (Karnataka) where some shows of the film were cancelled on Sunday and advance booking has been put on hold for the weekdays.
The average growth for Dilwale at most centres that we tracked was around the 15% mark, some were a little lower, others were higher. The impact of shows getting cancelled or resuming after protests is currently not very clear. As per estimates, the film should collect around 23 crore on Sunday, taking the weekend total to around the 64 crore mark.
For the industry, it has been a big day at the box office. The combined collections of both Bajirao Mastani and Dilwale is set to be around the 42 crore mark.
Monday and the remaining weekdays will be important for both films, as the better performing film will get more shows at multiplexes in Week 2. There is the much-hyped Hollywood film ‘Star Wars: The Force Awakens’ which releases in theatres on Christmas day, it will occupy a few screens too. The fact that big ticket Hollywood films are performing well in India (especially at Metro cities), has encouraged exhibitors to allocate plenty of shows in recent times.
The battle for screens and shows will continue in Week 2, so steady / good collections during the weekdays will be crucial for both Bajirao Mastani and Dilwale.
http://www.indicine.com/movies/bollywood/bajirao-mastani-dilwale-3rd-day-box-office-collections/
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December 20, 2015 at 4:35 PM
Excuses, excuses
First and foremost Shetty,SRK and Kajol didn’t cometogether and make a potboiler to make a 150 crore movie
Secondly, the negativity is a shameless publicity stunt and pandering that back fired. Can’t whine about it.
About the clash, he had plenty of opportunities to avoid a clash. Instead, they tried to strong arm SLB and BM but SLB stared him in the eye and stared them down. Result of their arrogance. Now, they can’t be cry babies and put that up as an excuse.
I think there is overall a sense of ennui and getting fed up with SRK’s antics that is very widely prevalent. This is also going to affect his subsequent releases.
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December 20, 2015 at 4:46 PM
Yes exactly. Moral victory for SLB and lessons learnt for SRK. Hopefully he will not be stupid enough to go after Sultan as he’ll regret that too.
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December 20, 2015 at 4:47 PM
So far Dilwale hasnt lost even 30-40 lacs due to show cancellation, otherwise boi will mention it. BM also lost appr same business due to cancellation of shows in various cities of Maharastra and especially pune. These excuses will only embarrass srk’s stardom.
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December 21, 2015 at 1:04 AM
You are bang on target Rajen. These highly narcissist actors deserve a resounding slap on their head and face. SRK got now. Others may get in near future. These egoistic peanut heads does need a reality check and they are getting at last.Before every movie release these substandard actors give their opinions on every subject except their fake acting and get free publicity due to idiotic screaming media in India which is nothing but a bunch of paid and manipulated bunch of idiots. I guess you are right that Indian moviegoers are getting tired to see SRK’s antics.
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December 21, 2015 at 1:18 AM
You don’t seem normal to me. This kind of hatred comment is not sane even to read. So, if SRK or Aamir gives some opinion about their own country and if it doesn’t match with your opinion, they need slaps on their head and face! You need to take it easy.
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December 21, 2015 at 12:25 PM
Come on guy. I said slap through box office. Why do I want to touch these peanut heads or anyone to touch these guys. The statements they make before any movie release is marketing gimmick to grab headlines. The way they expressed their opinion, I also expressed my opinion. It seems you took it personally. May be you are not normal, buddy. Chill.As for as country is concerned India and Indians are very tolerant to take in its stride every tom, dick and harry’s opinion.
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December 21, 2015 at 1:21 AM
“the negativity is a shameless publicity stunt and pandering that back fired. Can’t whine about it.”
Yes, everything SRK or Aamir says is publicity stunt. They are never supposed to open their mouth and if they open its a publicity stunt. You need to get over with that same 1 liner statement from years.
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December 20, 2015 at 4:49 PM
Girish Johar @girishjohar 10h10 hours ago
Saw, #Dilwale…DISAPPOINTED !! Only SRK & #Gerua works. No story, flat jokes. Scale & Songs Good, was expecting much more maybe..didn’t get
Girish Johar @girishjohar Dec 19
Saw #BajiraoMastani, fantastic performances byall @RanveerOfficial @deepikapadukone @priyankachopra Superlative Direction, huge scale canvas
Girish Johar @girishjohar Dec 19
Enjoyed #BajiraoMastani but for me the narrative was slow, a little heavy & songs are not upto the mark. Overall – a MUST WATCH !!!
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December 20, 2015 at 4:50 PM
KRK @kamaalrkhan 3h3 hours ago
#Dilwale is almost same on 3rd day also n collected approx 21Cr only so weekend-21+20+21=62Cr. Now it will be tough to reach to 200Cr.
KRK @kamaalrkhan 4h4 hours ago
#BajiraoMastani has got big jump today n collected approx 18Cr. Superb!
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December 20, 2015 at 4:51 PM
Amod Mehra @MehraAmod 4h4 hours ago
I stand corrected.. I presumed like all other idiotic films of Rohit Shetty.. #Dilwale too would be accepted.. I erred.. my apologies.. !!
Amod Mehra @MehraAmod Dec 17
#Dilwale : Fans of Uncle Shahrukh and Aunty Kajol will enjoy a typical Rohit Shetty style.. paisa vasool mature love story.. Hit !!
Amod Mehra @MehraAmod Dec 17
It took Indian cinema 55 years 2 produce another magnum opus of the calibre of Mughal-E-Azam. #BajiraoMastani is mesmerising. Take a bow SLB
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December 20, 2015 at 4:59 PM
Thank God for KRK,Jaju and Girish Johat.all of them are flawed and probably have their own agendas but Atleast they provide some alternative to the corrupt establishment including the likes of Taran and Komal that have ruled the roost in BOllywood trade information.
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December 20, 2015 at 5:10 PM
Indicine come up with Screen count.
Indicine.com @indicine 6h6 hours ago
Approx screen count, confirmed from various trade sources: Dilwale 3000 screens, Bajirao Mastani 2600. Including shared screens.
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December 20, 2015 at 5:15 PM
Highest Saturday collection of 2015
Movie Saturday Screens
Total Saturday Collections Rs 471.92 cr
Bajrangi Bhaijaan 36.60 4100
Prem Ratan Dhan Payo 31.05 4500
Brothers 21.43 3500
Dilwale 20.09 3000
Welcome Back 17.05 3200
Bajirao Mastani 15.52 2600
Total of Dilwale and BM (on 5600 screen) is also not matching BB(on 4100), that says something.
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December 20, 2015 at 5:18 PM
http://www.indicine.com/movies/bollywood/highest-saturday-collections-of-2015/
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December 20, 2015 at 5:28 PM
BOI will never mention this now. BOI use Kanpur for analysis to say what is happening overall, as this center is balanced mix of single screens and plexes. Now. they are silent.
BM – Sunday is twice of Friday. Sat jump was 50%
Dilwale – Sat dropped 25% from friday, Sunday is 10% higher than Friday.
Girish Johar @girishjohar 3h3 hours ago
Sunday Kanpur #Dilwale 13.93lacs #BajiraoMastani 10.48lacs aproxs
Girish Johar @girishjohar 11h11 hours ago
Saturday Kanpur #Dilwale 10.82lacs #BajiraoMastani 7.43lacs aproxs
Girish Johar @girishjohar Dec 18
Kanpur Friday #Dilwale 12.47lacs #BajiraoMastani 5.17lacs aproxs
https://twitter.com/girishjohar?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
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December 20, 2015 at 9:51 PM
WOW BM keeps jumping in Gurgaon also, Dilwale falls .
Girish Johar @girishjohar 2m2 minutes ago
Sunday Gurgaon #Dilwale 35.32 lacs #BajiraoMastani 33.26 lacs aproxs
Girish Johar @girishjohar 15h15 hours ago
Saturday Gurgaon #Dilwale 36.12lacs #BajiraoMastani 32.06lacs aproxs
Girish Johar @girishjohar Dec 18
Gurgaon Friday #Dilwale 32.87lacs #BajiraoMastani 25.19lacs aproxs
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December 20, 2015 at 5:34 PM
Sunday Update –
Maharastra – BM > Dilwale
Gujarat – Neck to Neck
Mysore – Neck to Neck
“Maharashtra is super-strong for the film, it has managed to edge out Dilwale here. Even in the state of Gujarat, Bajirao Mastani is performing as well as the Shah Rukh Khan starrer. Mysore circuit too is now neck and neck with Dilwale.”
http://www.indicine.com/movies/bollywood/dilwale-bajirao-mastani-day-3-sunday-box-office-update/
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December 20, 2015 at 5:35 PM
Completely sold on this. It will be a mountainous task to match Dr. Sreeram Lagoo’s act of NATASAMRAT from theater; nonetheless, very eager for this one. Sherwadkar’s play itself is one classic.
Hope this releases in the US.
Incidentally, Manjrekar was to direct this in Hindi with Amitabh in the lead. That’s been put on hold..
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December 21, 2015 at 12:31 AM
This is same movie which Mahesh wanted to make with Amitabh ..
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December 20, 2015 at 6:54 PM
Watched Bajirao Mastani yesterday. Theater was full. It’s difficult to believe but in an year which produced gems like Piku and Tanu Weds Manu Returns, a SLB movie could be the best. It’s being compared to Mughal-E-Azam but the real comparison should be with Doctor Zhivago or the Last Emperor. It’s an adult, highly sophisticated review of a man’s world and his relations to others.
No Bollywood historical has ever given me the lived in feeling. This one does. Whether it is the army camps, or ladies quarters of the Shaniwar wada or the real life palaces used for mujhras everything feels real, pulsating with sweat and noise of life. There are a couple of typical Bhansali excesses: both Kalahari and Pinga songs were not needed and the climax without graphics would have been much better.
The performances are all good and no one stands out more than the other. They all are part and parcel of the energy that drives the movie and the fate that links their characters.
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December 20, 2015 at 7:07 PM
Agreed. Malhaari and Pinga are enjoyable but unnecessary.
Disagree on Graphics in the end, why ?
1) It was best possible graphics. It depicts Ranveer Singh is hallucinating fighting his own army alone, he is able to defeat any enemy but not his own people. His helplessness and vulnerability made it very impactful.
2) It depicts on one side rituals are being performed in shaniwaarvada by his people to save him, and but he hallucinates those ritual flames are falling in river upon him, and he is fighting those rituals for religious freedom against those flames, it is those religious foundations he is battling against. it was beautiful.
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December 21, 2015 at 12:41 AM
Agree with your review. Except for the opulent sets, it actually does not feel like a SLB movie. He has fleshed out the characters more vividly, and relied less on his usual tropes. That being said, I wish he had gone deeper into Bajirao’s military achievements. One of his most astute campaigns that highlighted his military genius was his sacking of Delhi. They keep referring to defeating the Mughal Sultanate, but never show it. Similarly, many of his other 41 victorious campaigns couldve been shown, even if for seconds (or minutes). Perhaps the cost involved (CGI or otherwise) dissuaded SLB.
It definitely is full of content, and palace intrigue, etc. Much better than Jodha-Akbar, but not sure if it still would hold a candle to MeA.
The movie has been banned in Pakistan, and it is being protested by rightwingers in India. Great achievement to have rankled the right on boths sides.
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December 21, 2015 at 3:40 AM
I wouldn’t have minded it. I was so immeresed in that world I wouldn’t have minded an extra 30 min footage.
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December 21, 2015 at 6:16 AM
I completely agree with NyKavi on this. As much as I liked the film, I would have loved a bit more focus on his wars and politics.
I think some of the scenes were shot but they were edited out in favour of a shorter runtime. I saw a scene of burning logs rolling in a jungle in the trailer but only a glimpse of that shot was visible and that also only in the opening credits.
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December 21, 2015 at 8:36 AM
Overseas release is shorter by 8 minutes than India release
150 mins instead of 158 mins.
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December 20, 2015 at 6:57 PM
Conventional wisdom holds that mass moviegoing is the pastime of another era. The cultural heat emanates from television now. Hollywood churns out only banal sequels and forgettable action films. Netflix is the new multiplex.
Well, the movies just struck back.
In an astounding display of cultural and commercial domination on a global scale — one with little precedent in the 100-year history of Hollywood — the Walt Disney Company’s “Star Wars: The Force Awakens” earned roughly $517 million in ticket sales worldwide, smashing multiple box office records, even after accounting for inflation.
It was the largest opening weekend in North America, with $238 million in ticket sales. To put that figure into perspective, consider that “Avatar,” which analysts consider to be the highest-grossing film in history, with $3.1 billion in global ticket sales, took in $85 million over its first three days in domestic release; the previous record-holder for a December opening was “The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey,” with $87.5 million.
Disney said on Sunday that 47 percent of the gross for “The Force Awakens” came from 3-D screenings, for which tickets sell at a $3 to $5 premium. About 58 percent of the audience was male. About 63 percent of the audience was 26 or older.
For Hollywood, “Star Wars: The Force Awakens,” which cost roughly $350 million to make and market, represents the way movie executives — after years of watching television steal its thunder and suffering the decline of the DVD business — plan to battle back: Death Star-size movies that can capture the public’s imagination in ways reminiscent of the earliest years of blockbusterdom, before the hyperfragmentation of pop culture.
Consumers are just beginning to see this nostalgia-driven strategy — “Jurassic World,” which took in $208 million over its first three days in June, in some ways was the start — but studios have been engaging in a behind-the-scenes race for some time.
Disney has four more “Star Wars” movies on the way, along with “Frozen 2,” a two-part “Avengers: Infinity War” and a reboot of the Indiana Jones series. Fox has three “Avatar” films and “X-Men: Apocalypse.” Universal has another “Jurassic World” and is putting all of its classic monsters (Dracula, the Mummy, Frankenstein) into one megamovie. Warner Bros., deciding that Batman and Superman were too weak on their own, will roll out “Batman vs. Superman” in March and it has a Godzilla vs. King Kong movie, too.
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December 20, 2015 at 7:06 PM
Am happy with success of Star Wars but above is not neccessarily good news.
Have had enough of Superheroes and Marvel and sequels. Let us have some good original dramas.
To put things in perspective, Star Wars did not have the biggest Saturday or Sunday.
It is expected to make about 2.5 times, it’s opening weekend where as Avatar made more than 10 times its opening weekend domestically. No matter what the budget, the break even point for StarWars is pegged at 1.5 billion since Disney paid Lucas 4 billion USD to secure the franchise.
Regardless, it is going to be a huge money spinner.
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December 20, 2015 at 7:09 PM
agreed completely on all counts.. and yes all those superhero films underproduction make me queasy! But again this is low hanging fruit for Hollywood which specially in the age of IMAX and 3D they’ll milk for all its worth.
the Avatar analogy is a bit unfair anyway because none of the other films no matter how big they were did anything like Avatar’s trending.
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December 21, 2015 at 10:40 AM
Caught up with STAR WARS and as a non-fan of this franchise, must say this was an entertaining one. Recommended for all. [And this in spite of being fed up with the super-heroes drivel churned out by Hollywood year-in and year-out from ant-man to rat-man to skunk-man. There is only so much of CGI one can take. ]
The cultural impact of this movie is tremendous: Rarely do American audiences stand-up and cheer unlike our over-enthusiastic desis who start orgasming and sh**ting all over as soon as their Khan comes on screen. But couldn’t miss the whistles and claps as soon as the iconic STAR WARS’ crawl starts filling up the screen in that familiar font and type-face. And there were thunderous claps after the last scene too. The last time I saw this kind of applause in a theater was for TDKR.
STAR WARS still has 3 more to follow up thanks to Disney. I can only imagine how hard they need to work to keep the interest alive — for non-fans like us mainly.
BATMAN v/s SUPERMAN already looks horrific and comical both at the same time, thanks to Eisenberg. And Snyder is really just a visual film-maker, he doesn’t have the story-telling chutzpah like Nolan required to inject rejuvenated blood into a franchise.
But THE movie of this year – and perhaps within the last 5 years — IS MAD MAX: FURY ROAD. A STUNNING achievement that is unbeatable given that George Miller is 70! Unforgettable story-telling through visual imagery and unbeatable kinetic energy to the film. And Theron was fantastic displaying an ocean of tragedy through those steely veins of hers. This movie is a triumph in EACH & EVERY department of creative film-making.I doubt Miller himself will be able to better this feat. [Of course, thanks to the fact that this one has its filmic roots in Australia, you would never expect the applause that an American franchise like STAR WARS gets]. Already caught this one 5 times, and am still not sated.
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December 20, 2015 at 7:04 PM
I must say that to have three back to back experimental films with widely different roles would be a tough feat for any actor let alone if you are no.1 star of the country. Piku, Tamasha(which I didn’t like but which was nevertheless different) and Bajiao Mastani, each one different from the other. With these three, Deepika has put a lot of distance between herself and yesteryear no.1 superstars, let alone contemporary stars( were they ever so experimental? Maybe Rekha was at some point.) Hats off to her.
Also, it’s educative on the ways of Bollywood male stars egos: Shah Rukh Khan has his biggest hit in a number of years with Deepika in Chennai Express, the next movie they do together her role is halved. Happy New Year gets a good opening but doesn’t do as well as CE. Ranbir Kapoor has his biggest hit of his career with her and the next film he does with her, she is totally absent from one half of the movie. The movie is not a disaster as Ranbir’s other recent movies have been but isn’t it clear that if she had been used more, the movie would have done much better? It would have reduced the tedium of Ranbir’s repeated and scenes in the second half.
With Deepika, Kanagana and Priyanka on a roll, you finally have actresses who can pull audiences. They might not be able to open films on their own but they can add a lot of meat to the box office pull of the movies they are in. Common sense. Use them more, not less.
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December 20, 2015 at 7:17 PM
Tamasha was decent overall. Tamasha was regular bollywood stuff in beginning, very good in middle portion until it took regular Imtiaz Ali route to come to end.
Middle portion reminded me of revolutionary road, i thought it was going to be classic, if they had shown all those problems after Ranbeer and Deepika’s wedding, and more focus on their struggle with their relationship instead of escaping to take regular imtiaz ali’s style in preclimax/climax.
Middle portion really gave me goosebumps and ranbeer/deepika’s performance left me speechless in those portion.
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December 21, 2015 at 3:38 AM
I agree. My gripe with it was that Deepika is totally absent in the second half. Had she been used more, it would have been a better move. A much more accessible, softer, refreshing movie which also would have gone well with the audience.
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December 20, 2015 at 11:03 PM
Clash of the Titans: Who won? Who lost?
By Taran Adarsh, December 21, 2015
The results are out in the open. The grand clash [DILWALE versus BAJIRAO MASTANI] has turned the spotlight on a pertinent reality. Clashing with another biggie can prove to be disadvantageous. Right from the division of screens to the division of shows [multiplexes and single screens, both] to the division of footfalls at cineplexes during the all-important opening weekend, the business calculations can go awry when the business gets divided. In addition, negativity, bitterness and the game of one-upmanship creeps in as the release date draws nearer. The ‘fan war’ that erupts on social networking sites is another thorny issue, but let’s not venture into that zone.
It’s often said that two good films can co-exist even if they clash on the same date. There are a number of instances that prove this statement credible. The super-success of BAAHUBALI and BAJRANGI BHAIJAAN earlier this year [released in quick succession, not on the same day] clearly indicates the fact that the audience is willing to dig into their wallets if the content is solid. However, the stakes are very high these days and if the film doesn’t perform to its optimum capacity in the opening weekend, the word spreads faster than fire and not just the overenthusiastic media, even the aam aadmi, who’s well aware of the day-wise data of films in this day and age, promptly labels the film a fiasco. Either you score in the opening weekend or return to the pavilion, that’s the harsh reality.
Talking of DILWALE and BAJIRAO MASTANI, besides the face off, the business of these two biggies also got curtailed thanks to the protests in various cities, which resulted in the cancellation of shows and which in turn meant a loss of a couple of crores to these two films. Also, had DILWALE arrived solo, the numbers would’ve been much more than what they are right now. Ditto for BAJIRAO MASTANI, which is an expensive film and which faced tough competition from DILWALE not just in India, but also in key international markets. Sanjay Leela Bhansali enjoys tremendous following Overseas, but you cannot ignore the fact that SRK is the Pied Piper as far as the diaspora is concerned.
The silver lining is, the two films are being liked by their target audience. Furthermore, the genres are diverse, hence, in all likelihood, DILWALE and BAJIRAO MASTANI can rake in the moolah and cement their status in days to come. The multiple holidays ahead [Christmas and New Year] and the fact that there’s no major Hindi film hitting the marquee till 8 January 2016 should boost the ticket sales of these two mammoth ventures. STAR WARS: THE FORCE AWAKENS, which is generating huge revenues internationally, is scheduled to release next Friday. It will be interesting to see how the epic space film behaves at the Indian box-office and whether or not DILWALE and BAJIRAO MASTANI would face the heat from the new entrant.
Monday is akin to a crucial examination for all films, after the weekend results are out and DILWALE and BAJIRAO MASTANI will have to stand tall from Monday to Wednesday. Thursday evening onwards [24 December], right till Sunday [27 December], the business will again shoot upwards and get a further boost, yet again, from Thursday [31 December] till Sunday [3 January 2016], which clearly indicates that the two films have ample time to garner big numbers till the Amitabh Bachchan – Farhan Akhtar starrer WAZIR arrives in theatres on 8 January 2016.
The all-important question is, do DILWALE and BAJIRAO MASTANI have legs to maintain the momentum for three weeks? With Aamir Khan and Salman Khan gallantly marching into Rs 300 cr Club with PK and BAJRANGI BHAIJAAN, respectively [India biz], SRK will have to surpass his biggest grosser so far CHENNAI EXPRESS [approx Rs 228 cr; India biz] and speed past Rs 300 cr mark to compete with his contemporaries. On the other hand, BAJIRAO MASTANI has a colossal budget and its investors, who must be on Cloud Nine after the incredible critical acclaim that the well-made historical has garnered, will now be hoping that it rakes in huge profits at the box-office too.
The decisive phase has commenced. Let’s wait and watch which film reaches the winning post first. Or will both emerge champions?
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http://www.bollywoodhungama.com/box-office/business-talk/id/649/date/2015-12-21
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December 20, 2015 at 11:06 PM
Dilwale And Bajirao Mastani Weekend Estimates
Monday 21 December 2015 09.00 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
Dilwale had a strong Sunday growing around 15-20% to gross around 23 crore nett. the figure could be come out a little higher as some cities in Gujarat have shown big gains and if this is the case with all the states then the figure could go higher.
The disruptions that the film faced in various regions over the first two days due to political issues were less on Sunday. The weekend of the film will be around 64 crore nett which is good total as it was a non holiday weekend and the screenings were around 40% less than what a big film like this world normally get. Some circuits have under performed due to less screens especially Delhi /UP but generally most circuits are good with some having excellent weekend business.
Bajirao Mastaani also showed 15-20% growth on Sunday as its business will be in the range of 17.50 crore nett. The weekend will be around 45 crore nett which is actually a good number if looked at it from the face value point of view but low for the costs involved. It really needed a higher start or the growth on Saturday and Sunday to be higher.
Bajirao Mastani fared very well in Maharashtra and Mysore, fair in other parts with West Bengal, Bihar, Assam and Orissa being poor. The film also had a Telugu and Tamil version which fared very poorly and grossed around 75 lakhs nett over the weekend.
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December 20, 2015 at 11:07 PM
WORLDWIDE Dilwale 145 Crore Bajirao Mastani 85 Crore
Monday 21 December 2015 09.00 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
Dilwale has taken the third best opening Worldwide this year of 145-150 crore. The figures are behind Bajrangi Bhaijaan and Prem Ratan Dhan Payo bot of which had big holidays in the opening weekend. Bajirao Mastani has recorded the fifth best Worldwide figures of the year at 85-90 crore. It is Welcome Back that separates the two films. The top five Worldwide opening weekends of 2015 are as follows.
1. Bajrangi Bhaijaan – 187 crore
2. Prem Ratan Dhan Payo – 185 crore
3. Dilwale – 145-150 crore
4. Welcome Back – 90 crore
5. Bajirao Mastaani – 85-90 crore
No film has ever grossed 200 crore Worldwide in the opening weekend but together Dilwale and Bajirao Mastani have easily crossed the 200 crore mark with the combined total to be 230 crore on a worst case scenario.
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December 20, 2015 at 11:08 PM
Dilwale Top In Overseas 2015 – All Time Record In Gulf
Monday 21 December 2015 09.00 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
Dilwale looks set to be the highest opener of 2015 in Overseas with a likely total of $8.5 million. Bajrangi Bhaijaan is the present record holder with business of $8.1 million. The Overseas opening is also the second best of all time after Dhoom 3. The film smashed all records in Gulf to become the biggest opener ever in that market. Not only did it set an all time record but also became the first film to cross $3 million in Gulf with a weekend of $3.2 mllion.
The business in US / Canada was $1.9 million and here Bajirao Mastani actually had more theatres playing on 304 theatres against the 268 theatres of Dilwale. the Bajirao Mastani theatre count was a record for a Hindi film in US / Canada.it did well in the territory grossing $1.7 million.
The combined business of Dilwale in UK, US / Canada, Gulf and Australia is around $6.65 million and rest of the markets should add $1,75 million as it has also done very well in Pakistan, Malaysia and Nepal.
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December 21, 2015 at 12:04 AM
After collecting Rs 21 crore on its opening day itself, ‘Dilwale’, directed by Rohit Shetty, amassed Rs 20.09 crore in India on Saturday, taking its cumulative total to Rs 41.09 crore, read a statement.
The film, which also stars Kajol, Varun Dhawan and Kriti Sanon in pivotal roles, received an overwhelming response overseas as well. ‘Dilwale’ collected $3.4 million on Friday abroad.
“The film registered biggest ever opening for any Bollywood film in UAE and is running to packed houses over the weekend,” the statement read. It is being appreciated in the US, Britain, Malaysia, Australia and New Zealand too.
‘Bajirao Mastani’, helmed by filmmaker Sanjay Leela Bhansali, has also earned well.
“#BajiraoMastani biz witnessed superb growth on Saturday, gaining a strong foothold at multiplexes. Friday Rs 12.80 crore, Saturday Rs 15.52 crore. Total: Rs 28.32 crore,” trade analyst Taran Adarsh posted on Twitter.
Apart from Ranveer and Deepika, the film also stars actress Priyanka Chopra.
‘Bajirao Mastani’ has released in 3,050 screens in India, while it is reported that ‘Dilwale’ made its way into as many as 2,700 screens. The budgets of both films were clearly over Rs 100 crore.
Both the films are expected to see a boost in their collection on Sunday. Also with no big release set for Christmas and January 1, both the films will have enough time to prove their mettle. – See more at: http://www.mid-day.com/articles/dilwale-and-bajirao-mastani-remain-strong-at-box-office/16789198#sthash.lzqHtBC6.dpuf
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December 21, 2015 at 12:06 AM
http://www.mid-day.com/articles/pakistani-ad-featuring-nargis-fakhri-sparks-outrage-online/16789197
She is fully clad. Whats the problem? Intolerance?
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December 21, 2015 at 1:31 AM
im OK with protesting as long as there aren’t calls for banning and such. the ad does seem out of place especially since it is promoting women as objects…who is holding another object. I would hope the same thing would be applied to men also though if used in this way.
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December 21, 2015 at 1:48 AM
They could have avoided front page.
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December 21, 2015 at 1:53 AM
It is not that bad it is still journalist community who are protesting on twitter and kinda peacefully. Journalist will feel bad that they daily hard work is ruined by such ads on front page, its understandable.
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December 21, 2015 at 1:15 AM
@KRK
Sunday Collection- #Dilwale: Rs-24Cr, Weekend Total-₹65.09Cr
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December 21, 2015 at 1:25 AM
Taran Adarsh @taranadarsh
#Dilwale Fri 21 cr, Sat 20.09 cr, Sun 24 cr. Total: ₹ 65.09 cr. India biz. Good growth on Sunday.
#Dilwale Overseas total: $ 8.5 million [₹ 56.38 cr]. EXCELLENT!
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December 21, 2015 at 1:31 AM
Major goof-up during Miss universe Finale. Wrong miss universe is crowned
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December 21, 2015 at 1:40 AM
lol….just proves the stupidity of this useless contest. that was hilarious though. RIP steve harvey. lol.
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December 21, 2015 at 1:54 AM
Watched Aaj ki raat. Bachchan is the star of the show. Another one who almost stole the thunder was Vijay Takur Whose selfless service brought tears to many. Bachchan still looks luminous and he should do these type of shows more even if the trp is less. Entertaining and enlightening.
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December 21, 2015 at 2:28 AM
taran adarsh @taran_adarsh 15m15 minutes ago
#BajiraoMastani is UNSTOPPABLE. SUPER word of mouth translates into SUPER biz. Fri 12.80 cr, Sat 15.52 cr, Sun 18.45 cr. Total: ₹ 46.77 cr.
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December 21, 2015 at 2:29 AM
taran adarsh @taran_adarsh 4m4 minutes ago
#Dilwale + #BajiraoMastani *COMBINED* business:- Fri 33.80 cr, Sat 35.61 cr, Sun 42.45 cr. COMBINED total: ₹ 111.86 cr. India biz.
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December 21, 2015 at 2:29 AM
Indicine.com @indicine 6m6 minutes ago
Bajirao Mastani has performed phenomenally well in its first weekend too. Growth from Friday to Sunday, 44%, strong hold today.
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December 21, 2015 at 5:37 AM
D IS doing very well in single screens today. Multiplexes is around 25 percent on morning like BM. I would say a 13 cr total for D today would represent a very good hold. In a normal release that will be much higher. Let’s see where it ends up but at the moment the multiplexes will decide. For BM it should not drop too much from Friday and that will be a good hold.
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December 21, 2015 at 8:42 AM
‘Girish Johar @girishjohar 3h3 hours ago
Early Monday BO trends suggest stronger number for #BajiraoMastani at the mpxs !’
Source ?
‘Multiplexes is around 25 percent on morning like BM.’ ?
BM is clearly ahead in multiplexes now, check bms bookings or read below-
Girish Johar @girishjohar 3h3 hours ago
Early Monday BO trends suggest stronger number for #BajiraoMastani at the mpxs !
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December 21, 2015 at 10:59 AM
“D IS doing very well in single screens today. Multiplexes is around 25 percent on morning like BM. I would say a 13 cr total for D today would represent a very good hold. In a normal release that will be much higher”
Just to give comparision
– CE had 12.5 cr on 1st monday with 32cr Sunday collections.
-HNY had 15 cr 1st monday with 33 cr sunday collections.
So, Dilwale should have 13cr 1st monday with 24cr sunday collections to be ‘stable’ ??
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December 21, 2015 at 11:16 AM
would be surprised if it did 13. and if it did it would be the best day for the film so far, relatively speaking.
But on the larger point yes as I’ve always said the big films drop quite a bit after the weekend and then truly fizzle out after a week. Because the numbers are still big everyone pretends there’s no problem. But this is why these films are helped by getting off to huge starts. When a film doesn’t do that it’s hard to make it up later even with comparatively better trending.
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December 21, 2015 at 11:21 AM
I think both D and BM will do around 10 crores on monday and that is actually stable IMO which will extend till Thu. The 2nd weekend will decide the lifetime business for both movies.
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December 21, 2015 at 11:42 AM
You just said 13 would be stable. Now you’re saying 10 would be ok too. In any case for BM that would represent a rather low drop compared to Fri whereas for Dilwale it would be more than a 50% one. It’s fair to say given BM’s graph, the WOM etc that this will probably remain stable next weekend. Not sure about Dilwale. Usually even the biggest openers bleed quite a bit.
Leaving all this aside I’m trying to figure out what that number for Dilwale would be that would NOT be ok for you as (and in order) an opening weekend number, an opening week number, finally an overall gross number. Because as so often in the past the bar is often brought down so low after release that anything that’s not a disaster does better than it!
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December 21, 2015 at 11:48 AM
“You just said 13 would be stable. Now you’re saying 10 would be ok too.”
I think you are confused again. Krish gave that 13 cr and I said that’s asking lot when compared to other movies.
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December 21, 2015 at 12:25 PM
10 would be pretty bad I think. When the release count is less drops have to be lesser than 50 percent.
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December 21, 2015 at 3:30 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CWvF7fuWwAA3Wrn.jpg:large Gangaajal first poster out, trailer out tomorrow. Priyanka Chopra looks promising.
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December 21, 2015 at 12:07 PM
@satyam
No post for gangaajal? Poster is out , trailer will be out soon.
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December 21, 2015 at 4:11 AM
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December 21, 2015 at 4:18 AM
SLB : Amitabh bachchan, smita patil and Rekha were chosen first for Baajirao Mastani.
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December 21, 2015 at 8:37 AM
Komal Nahta @KomalNahta 59m59 minutes ago
#BajiraoMastani grosses an impressive USD 4.5 million Overseas in 1st weekend. That’s Rs. 29.85 crore!!
While Dilwale is appr. 8.5 mn.
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December 21, 2015 at 8:38 AM
Komal Nahta @KomalNahta 54m54 minutes ago
Bajirao Mastani overtakes Dilwale in US-Canada on Sunday. That’s quite an achievement for Bajirao Mastani. Dilwale $599,962.
BM $617,943
Girish Johar @girishjohar 3h3 hours ago
Early Monday BO trends suggest stronger number for #BajiraoMastani at the mpxs !
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December 21, 2015 at 8:43 AM
BM is leading in India and US now.
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December 21, 2015 at 10:56 AM
Bajirao Mastani continued its glorious run on Day 4 at the box office. The film was rock-solid on Monday, as there was hardly any drop at most centres that we tracked. In fact, some were performing better than Friday. The centre that registered the biggest fall, dropped only by 21%, which is excellent.
Dilwale, on the other hand, was steady. The percentage of drop from Friday to Monday is bigger than Bajirao Mastani, but that is only because Dilwale took a bigger start on Friday. The average drop for Dilwale is around 45-50% from Friday, which is normal for a weekday.
At single-screens, Dilwale is performing very well, while Bajirao Mastani has taken the lead at multiplexes.
There is a good chance that the Sanjay Leela Bhansali film could put up a total in the range of Rs 10 crore +/- on Monday
http://www.indicine.com/movies/bollywood/bajirao-mastani-dilwale-day-4-monday-box-office-collection-update/
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December 21, 2015 at 12:23 PM
A 45 percent drop will give that 13 cr figure I was talking about. But looks like it will be lesser than that. BM might be around 9 I think
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December 21, 2015 at 12:26 PM
BM is collecting solely at plexes from Monday.. SS are just wasted.
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December 21, 2015 at 12:33 PM
That’s true. Next week if the Delhi and Rajasthan single screens switch to D both movies can continue collecting during the holiday weekend. In hindsight SRK was an idiot not to release the movie on 25 th. I don’t know what made him so confident of a sub standard movie. Not only he lost out on the initial he will lose out on the holiday weekends also now that the WOM is out. Single screens will support the movie but for that they need to play the movie.
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December 21, 2015 at 12:46 PM
“In hindsight SRK was an idiot not to release the movie on 25 th.”
Agree, this has been a big messup. The same movie would have earned lot more in that 10 days if released on 25th till 3rd of Jan. 18th release would have been only good if they anticipated great WOM, which I never think is possible with RS movie.. always will be average/above average types.
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December 21, 2015 at 12:29 PM
Both films will do 8.5cr on Monday is what the bo experts are saying on twitter based on the feedback from morning shows.
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December 21, 2015 at 12:39 PM
“Both films will do 8.5cr on Monday is what the bo experts are saying on twitter based on the feedback from morning shows.”
Morning shows is very bad indicator for these movies. BM will collect at plexes but mostly evening and night shows and similarly D is collecting at SS which is again evening and night shows not during the work timings.
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December 21, 2015 at 12:36 PM
Komal Nahta is wrong. Below is the US collection from BOM
Bajirao Mastani
Fri – $460,000
Sat – $680,000
Sun – $520,000
Total = $1,660,000
Dilwale
Fri – $600,000
Sat – $725,000
Sun – $550,000
Total = $1,875,000
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December 21, 2015 at 12:37 PM
BOM is not including Thu previews as it was in a way unofficial release.
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December 21, 2015 at 3:46 PM
BOM has added Thu’s collections for D.
Dilwale
Thu – $109,120
Fri – $600,000
Sat – $725,000
Sun – $550,000
Total = $2,029,194
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December 21, 2015 at 11:41 AM
Breathe easy, Raees and Sultan won’t have a Dilwale v/s Bajirao Mastani like showdown!
Monday, 21 December 2015 – 5:28pm IST | Agency: dna webdesk
While Shah Rukh Khan and Salman Khan were supposed to go head-to-head against each other next Eid, we hear the clash has been finally averted…
Cut to a few months back. Farhan Akhtar and Ritesh Sidhwani announced that their next production venture Raees featuring Shah Rukh Khan will be releasing on Eid 2016. Soon enough, YRF too revealed that Salman Khan starrer Sultan will also hit screens on the same day. We were just reeling under the shock of having the biggest Bollywood clash happening in a few months’ time that we heard about a new development.
People, now you can breathe easy! Salman and SRK are not clashing anymore. The latest we hear is that Salman has asked the Sultan makers to move their release to a later date. And now, Shah Rukh is all set to enjoy a solo release in June next year with Raees definitely coming on the said date.
Raees, more in the commercial yet unconventional space had released a teaser video which has created tremendous buzz among the audiences. Sultan’s first look picture also created waves in tinsel town. But now that Sultan has been pushed to a later date, SRK fans will be really happy.
Also, will Sultan now release on Diwali? That’s something again which is doing the rounds now. But if it does book Diwali for its release, Sultan will yet again go head to head with Ranbir Kapoor’s Ae Dil Hai Mushkil and Ajay Devgn’s Shivaay!
http://www.dnaindia.com/entertainment/report-breathe-easy-raees-and-sultan-won-t-have-a-dilwale-vs-bajirao-mastani-like-showdown-2158155
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December 21, 2015 at 12:22 PM
Akshaye Rathi @akshayerathi
Go to a single screen cinema & watch the reaction to the scene in which Bajirao charges alone towards an army! Goosebumps! #BajiraoMastani
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December 21, 2015 at 12:47 PM
As per BOI, BM drop on Monday is about 15-20% and Dilwale 50-55%.
As per BOI,BM will edge past Dilwale and collect around 10 crores.
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December 21, 2015 at 12:54 PM
Even they have been humbled
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December 21, 2015 at 12:56 PM
Bajirao Mastani Holds Very Strongly On Monday
Monday 21 December 2015 23.00 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
Bajirao Mastani has held very strongly on Monday and is set to drop in the 15-20% range from Friday which may well mean business in the 10 crore nett region. The film had a fair trend over the weekend but on Monday the film has really come into its own. The business was strong in Maharashtra over the weekend and on Monday most other circuits have held up very well while Maharashtra continued its strong run.
The collections on Monday may well edge past Dilwale which will show a drop of 50-55% from Friday. Dilwale has fallen in the big cites while smaller cities have held better but the tables have turned on Monday and Bajirao Mastani will start eating into that 20 crore nett weekend lead of Dilwale on the weekdays, possibly even on Monday.
The Monday business now does give a good chance of recovery for Bajirao Mastani which looked a long shot over the weekend.
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December 21, 2015 at 1:45 PM
Wow first bit of positivity on BM by BOI finally cottoned onto what’s ACTUALLY happening, but slyly attracting any negativity towards D in the headlines.
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December 21, 2015 at 1:58 PM
yeah even if they saw some warning signs on Dilwale they tried to get by by underplaying BM. eventually one has to give up.
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December 21, 2015 at 12:43 PM
Brilliant comments by ‘prose’ & raghav …
Hats off to S Bhansali for his passion & perseverance that makes one forgive the melodrama & excesses..
“With these three, Deepika has put a lot of distance between herself and yesteryear no.1 superstars, let alone contemporary stars( were they ever so experimental? ”
Agree with ‘prose’
To heck with political correctness & civility & restraint
I loved Mastaani…
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December 21, 2015 at 12:51 PM
Am wondering if PK is still safe or not yet?
Also wondering what kind of clash this is- only affecting Dilwale while BM goes from strength to strength.
Adbhut, ati adbhut!
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December 21, 2015 at 12:59 PM
Ranveer Singh as Bajirao
Many a times, I felt he needed to go a pitch lower, a shade subtler.
But the fact was that it worked in totality inspite of the ‘flaws’
Part apocryphal part trance like, the bhansalification aka melodrama and color pallettes aid the depiction of bajiraos mental habitus
When Ranveer Singh rushes towards and through an entire army singlehandedly, the epicness of scale and canvus only serve to depict the wounds that lie within…
Too deep too untreatable
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December 21, 2015 at 1:09 PM
Watched both Dilwaale and BM this weeeknd. Dilwale was alright, nothing spectacular and infact it was less comedy with diluted emotions, might just be an okay film boxoffice wise. BM was great in terms of sets, acting, visuals. I agree with reviewer above that some more war scenes was the need of the hour. It ended abruptly and they should have gotten into the voiceover explaining Bajirao’s scenes in the end. Overall BM without clash would have been huge and now also its overtaken DW in US.
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December 21, 2015 at 1:11 PM
So, what is it-
Was SRK just unlucky
Or
A victim of miscalculation
Or
Foolishly arrogant
Or
Combination of all three
Nobody put a gun to his head and said he had to release it on 18th. Even tried to deny BM screen space by cajoling/ forcing the theatre owners and distributors.
Now using the ‘clash’ excuse is a bit rich, won’t you say?
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December 21, 2015 at 2:36 PM
I think he misread the CE result. He’s been trying for years to match Aamir’s biggest films and for a number of years now Salman’s biggest too. Now on his best day he clearly can get the initial going but (and this is a point I’ve made before) he needs much more to get that initial going. Other actors in the film, a circus-like deal and so on. When he doesn’t have this the initials are never very strong irrespective of release dates and competition (both Dons, JTHJ, MNIK, RNBDJ). On the other side you have Ra One, CE (Deepika had a big part of this), HNY, OSO. Now Dilwale is an exception to the rule. Because every Shetty film opens big and does minimally well. Maybe the whole nostalgia bit just didn’t work here, maybe the advertising didn’t. whatever. But the point is that it’s not like Salman where any film he appears in opens big and is on a tear for a number of days. It’s not like Aamir where you get the biggest bang for the genre and of course he still has the biggest totals as well which no one has been able to match so far without inflation becoming a factor (this of course also includes Ghajini which remains the best masala result in Bombay of this entire contemporary period). SRK has his base, has his history and can get a huge initial going with some of these other factors in place. So Dilwale wasn’t the wrong decision. However he probably thought he could get in all his history and better that film’s result. Partly Bhansali spoilt the deal for him but this film wouldn’t have done those numbers anyway. Shetty isn’t that kind of filmmaker. Also the nostalgia bit depends on an older generation. DDLJ is 20 years old. The nostalgia was there for part of the audience, not everyone. Of course he’s unlucky too because irrespective of these factors you don’t expect to fail with Shetty. But it reveals a certain weakness that SRK has always had. People have forever sold him as a marketing genius (the usual propaganda associated with him) but they’ve always ignored the flip-side. He’s never had the script sense that one needs for the different stuff but beyond this he treats the big commercial films simply as great marketing moments. It’s true that a lot of mass cinema can be low brow and benefit from that sort of advertising but there has to be some sincerity to it. Otherwise everyone would be as successful as Shetty. If you’re Salman you can get away with poor stuff because the audience shows up for you. Otherwise every other star no matter how big has to be careful. Of course the other unexpected thing here is that I would never have expected Bhansali to do better in any sense than Dilwale. So it’s a rather odd result. Looking forward I’d be surprised if either Raees or Fan were very successful (again using relative standards for these genres). Because again SRK has never profited in these kinds of things either. Whether in the 90s or beyond. It’s just rare for a somewhat different film of his to do well. I am hardly a SRK fan but I think he could have had a much stronger career for the last 10-12 years and his most immediate contemporaries prove this. Because he’s had the initial, he’s had the ability to put up the numbers. He’s just done some terrible films. However these too add up. But the signs have been there for many years. the last time he had the biggest grosser of the year was probably OSO. And in terms of absolute grossers he’s not even in the same ballpark as the other two. CE is 80-100 crores behind Bajrangi let alone PK.
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December 21, 2015 at 1:16 PM
and thank god SLB took Ranveer Singh. Salman khan would have ruined the film for me.
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December 21, 2015 at 11:04 PM
Exactly! Salman would have ruined Bajirao with his Dabang style persona, made a caricature of a historic figure. Ranveer did a good job I must say.
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December 21, 2015 at 1:31 PM
If the combined final totals of both films is more than say 350 crores the clash is somewhat worth it. The combined business if historic makes sense. Otherwise both films see no benefit from the clash. The bigger loser is not D it’s always the film that has better WOM that stands to lose out more overall. BM clearly seems to have lost out more. In the end D will do probably 20% less had clash been averted and all that is due to arrogance of SRK no one else.
D had the kajol pairing, shetty and varun…New kid on the block. It had all angles covered one would think.
And clearly SRK script sense is poor as he chose to have the clash. This is not Lagaan or TZP…where Aamir probably sensed he can go with a clash sensing his film is good enough….SRK script sense is haywire…maybe he recovers something from his next two releases but nothing is guaranteed.
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December 21, 2015 at 1:59 PM
“The bigger loser is not D it’s always the film that has better WOM that stands to lose out more overall.”
agree.. specially when it’s not the usual mass market fare.
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December 21, 2015 at 2:27 PM
Sometimes, a moral victory is priceless.
Ask SLB if you would rather make a few crores less but own SRK or the reverse.
This also catapults SLB into a different league. Hitherto, he was considered a maverick with a niche following and given to glitzy melodramas without much substance. Now, he is critically acclaimed and commercially successful, even going up against the reigning ‘King’. I think SLB will take this anyday over the other alternative. His distributors might think otherwise, though.😄😄
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December 21, 2015 at 2:37 PM
mostly agree.. this is a career high for Bhansali.. and to do it in this genre with Ranveer as the lead is quite remarkable.
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December 21, 2015 at 2:31 PM
““The bigger loser is not D it’s always the film that has better WOM that stands to lose out more overall.”
agree.. specially when it’s not the usual mass market fare.”
Completely disagree. The weaker WOM is always the first one out. The movie with good/great WOM will eventually cover its base(and might get marginally impacted <10%) but weak WOM will never get that benefit.
Incase you blindly say I'm saying this seeing D's WOM, I had said the same words before its release in more elaborate way.
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December 21, 2015 at 2:51 PM
I think you not understanding what I’m trying to say. D loses out because it forced the clash. It could have made lot more on its own. As it’s initial would cover lot more. But because there is a clash BM loses out as neither it’s initial or WOM is maximised via losing screen space. It’s only because of the clash I say this.
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December 21, 2015 at 3:01 PM
BM was announced on Dec 25.. way back in 2014 summer. SRK announced Dilwale 18th Dec in June 2015. Then Eros pushed back the movie and came on 18th Dec as well and this was announced after D’s announcement. I don’t think SRK could have back out at that time. This is the fact, whatever the spin is all over.
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December 21, 2015 at 3:03 PM
That might be correct but SRK could have moved to Jan 25. I know there’s a prestige battle in these matters and I’m not necessarily blaming him but at the end of the day whether a film is a hit or not is the only thing that matters. In the long run no one remembers a lot of this other stuff. People might say you got scared and moved away but if you have a bigger winner no one eventually cares.
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December 21, 2015 at 3:04 PM
He could and should have but an ego is an ego.
I repeat again he should avoid clashing with Sultan as that battle he will quite easily lose the initial and media will be all over it.
If you into making money you got to take the emotion out of it.
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December 21, 2015 at 3:07 PM
according to a story Master posted earlier it’s now just the SRK film on Eid and Sultan meanwhile is releasing on Diwali. Which by the way also makes your point. Salman is at the top of his game but he still doesn’t want competition!
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December 21, 2015 at 3:08 PM
“That might be correct but SRK could have moved to Jan 25. ”
I hope you mean Dec 25. Even I agree but it wasn’t just 1 person calling the shots.. they had lot of meetings with everyone to come up with that Dec 18th date and even they stuck to it eventually. Eventually it didn’t work out the way it was supposed to workout. Finally, this will be an eye opener to the whole industry and you already see the reports that Raees and Sultan will not clash anymore.
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December 21, 2015 at 2:53 PM
The thing is that no one would miss Dilwale for BM if both films had relatively good WOM. People would either watch both or just watch the former. No one who was otherwise interested in Dilwale would skip the film no matter how good the WOM for BM was. However when it’s weak WOM for one the choice is relatively easy (again with Salman Dilwale would still have opened stronger). But a film like BM can only gross upto a point even in the best case scenario and even as a solo. Hence competition here affects it, specially in the age of multiplex ticket rates and that too for a filmmaker who’s depending on these screens almost exclusively. As a larger matter also a dropping film will not really be able to arrest its decline. Consider all the big solo failures in recent years. Not having competition does nothing to slow the drops. The successful film though while it can trend well cannot cover everything later on. Certainly not in these times. No matter how well some hits trend they never get that kind of gross without those big initials. A film with good WOM can lose out on some of its potential audience for these other reasons. On a failing film if you do the comparison there’s not much difference. Take OSO/Saawariya. The former might have opened bigger without the latter which actually had strong numbers over the weekend. Then it completely tanked. OSO might have been 10% higher or something but Saawariya doing a bit more than it did doesn’t really mean much. and OSO was still the bigger film. here it was the opposite.
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December 21, 2015 at 3:02 PM
I’d watch D over BM initially but not now…more intrigued by latter now.
Maybe on Monday D is still ahead but it’s a small lead before the inevitable happens. Long run D may still outgross BM but this was expected. No one would have expected this type of battle. Sounds like SLB saved his best film for this very moment. Bitter sweet.
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December 21, 2015 at 3:05 PM
I’ve never been a Bhansali fan but I’m somewhat tempted by BM. With someone other than Ranveer I might even have gone by now. I too would have chosen Dilwale over it if I had to make it for one. But now it seems clear that the latter just isn’t much (though it’s probably a one time watch).
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December 21, 2015 at 3:09 PM
Slb and Eros deserve some credit for not backing down and taking a hit on profit…but in doing so I suspect other films might open up to clashing. If you have a good film and know it you might lose profit but the media positively reflects on you which gives more mileage then few more crores.
The battle of perception is just as important.
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December 21, 2015 at 3:12 PM
A clash is only sensible if both films work. Combined they should outgross any record holder just like Gadar and Lagaan did and Welcome and TZP. there should be high possibility of crossover audience.
Maybe YRF changed as they are sensible and felt sorry for SRK 😃😃😃
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December 21, 2015 at 2:21 PM
Kanpur numbers are out-
BM fell by 11% from friday figures.
Dilwale fell by 50.5% from friday.
Girish Johar
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Monday Kanpur #Dilwale 6.3lacs #BajiraoMastani 4.6lacs aproxs
Dec 18
Girish Johar @girishjohar
Kanpur Friday #Dilwale 12.47lacs #BajiraoMastani 5.17lacs aprox
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December 21, 2015 at 2:04 PM
SLB extracted his revenge for his Sawaria humiliation. There is one story of a man ready to lose one eye if his enemy loses two eyes.
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December 21, 2015 at 2:31 PM
fans think in terms of revenge and blah blah. And media also enjoys using such terms. Otherwise i dont think anyone can make anything productivity thinking in terms of negative agenda. Slb is not producer, just check out his interview with komal nahta i posted above. He comes across genuine man and more mature than before.
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December 21, 2015 at 2:37 PM
More than Bhansali it was Eros’s decision to release BM on 18th December. This has been made clear many times over the course. Eros wanted this movie in 2015 calendar year and they have Shivaay in 2016 calendar again competition with Karan’s Ranbir movie on Diwali.
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December 21, 2015 at 2:21 PM
Why Bajirao Mastani has upset two families
December 15, 2015 10:10 IST
Ranveer Singh in Bajirao MastaniSanjay Leela Bhansali’s Bajirao Mastani has ruffled quite a few feathers among the descendants of the Peshwa and his Muslim wife.
Sanjay Leela Bhansali’s passion project has faced many a hurdle.
Bajirao Mastani, the self-indulgent film maker’s take on Peshwa Bajirao I and princess Mastani Begum, was envisioned with publicised excitement some 12 years ago.
It quickly came to a dead end after lead pair Salman Khan and Aishwarya Rai developed off-screen differences.
When the idea was dusted off much later — this time with Ranveer Singh, Deepika Padukone and Priyanka Chopra — the film found it shared its release date (December 18) with Shah Rukh Khan’s Dilwale.
Another blow came more recently as the film’s songs caused an outcry among the descendants of the Maratha warrior and his Muslim lover, who found them objectionable.
There is concern and dismay in the Bhansali camp, crew members admit.
In the manner of most ventures under his banner, Bajirao Mastani is a costly affair: co-produced with Eros, it has reportedly been made for Rs 200 crore. The period story has all the trappings of a Bhansali product: forbidden romance, drama, scale and lots of finery.
Some of that is glimpsed in the songs revealed so far: Pinga, a dance-off between Padukone and Chopra, and Malhari, a celebratory jig by Singh.
The tracks betray a thirst for mass appeal, but the ample use of catchphrases and the flamboyant dance moves have not gone down well with members of Bajirao’s clan — his descendants from Mastani, the Nawabs of Banda, have filed petitions in the courts of Jabalpur and Indore, and his heirs from his first wife, Kashibai, spoke out in the media.
The families want Bajirao to be remembered as a peerless war strategist.
He was born into a Chitpavan Brahmin family in 1700 and took over from his father as the Peshwa at the age of 19. He is known to have fought 41 battles without a single loss.
According to historian Mandar Lawate, his strength was speed. For example, he struck by capturing the enemy’s water bodies and fields, or pre-emptively hit the opposition’s capital while they were making their way to his.
Biographer Jayraj Salgaokar says he was instrumental in expanding the guerilla warfare techniques developed by Shivaji.
Kashibai was docile and personable. She suffered from arthritis and tuberculosis, which her descendants note would make it hard to dance fluently.
When Bajirao saved Bundela warrior Chhatrasal’s territory from Muhammad Khan Bangash, he was rewarded with land and the hand of Mastani in marriage around 1730.
There are various stories about Mastani, who is also believed to have been a poet and Krishna devotee. The Begum, members of the Banda family say, was not a courtesan of Chhatrasal but a daughter from his Persian wife Ruhani Bai. Despite resistance from his mother and brother, Bajirao is said to have married her out of love.
Terms like vaat lavli (slang for destroyed) and rhyming words like chatak matak vatak cannot have been in the vocabulary of a warrior King in the 18th century, reckons Mahendra Peshwa, a consulting engineer and ninth-generation descendent of Bajirao, referring to the song Malhari.
Thus, open letters were written to Bhansali, demanding that he do his homework.
The wives in royal families would never dance in public, notes Mahendra, especially not in midriff-baring saris. “They would be clothed from head to toe in those days. In front of strangers, they were required to cover their heads and wear shawls.”
For the families, who feel they are uncared for in general, this seems to have been an opportunity to come to the fore. Standing in the ruins of Shaniwarwada, the Peshwas’ ancestral home and headquarters in Pune, Mahendra and his wife, Sucheta, wonder if their cause will find political support. They are enthused by what they dub as hints of discomfort in the film maker.
“Another song titled Fituri has offensive lyrics too but they have withheld the video so far, probably out of fear,” he says, with a laugh. “They have not yet come to Pune for promotions either.”
The Peshwas maintain that while Shivaji has been adequately glorified for his contributions to Maharashtra, Bajirao hasn’t been remembered enough.
“In the 40 years of his life and 20 years of his career as the Peshwa, Mastani was a part of the last decade. Why focus so much on the love story and not his laurels as a battle strategist,” Mahendra’s uncle, Udaysing, asks over the phone.
Equally incensed are Mastani’s progeny, who are spread across Sehore, Indore and Bhopal in Madhya Pradesh and work as social workers, teachers and government servants. “If some love story of historic figures fascinates the celluloid world, we have no problem. But should someone take liberties to insult those great people,” asks an angry Tamkeen Ali Bahadur, sitting at his modest home at Sehore, some 50 km from Bhopal.
“Mastani Begum was not an ordinary dancer but a poet and war strategist who accompanied Bajirao on many occasions,” adds Afaque Ali Bahadur, who recently retired as additional-CEO of the District Council. They are the descendants of Shamsher Ali, the son of Mastani, who became the Nawab of Banda. The family lost its riches when Nawab Ali Bahadur II fought against the British along with Laxmibai of Jhansi.
The family lives modestly, but its syncretic royal past shows up at times. While they are fond of Urdu poetry and the rare Nawabi delicacy ratan kalia, young Umar Ali Bahadur, who leads the charge in preserving the family history, also likes to chant Sanskrit couplets and carries a pocket-sized Gita in his bag.
Some years ago, Umar attended college in Pune and simultaneously made efforts to restore the grave of Mastani Begum at Pabal village near the city. Tamkeen too remains busy digging up government records of his family’s property, belongings and jewellery impounded by the British.
Members of both the families jointly addressed the press in Mumbai some days ago.
To allay their concerns, the film’s makers declared they would include a disclaimer saying it is a work of fiction where any resemblance to real characters was coincidental.
Still, the families have demanded a look at the script and the movie before release.
“It is not a ban we are seeking but removal of what is objectionable. How can you disclaim it, when the names of all the characters are the same as in real life?” says Udaysing.
While it may not be firmly rooted in historical fact, the film’s making did entail research. The film is based on fictional work Rauu, which draws from Bajirao’s life but focuses on his love for Mastani.
The writers, Bhansali and Prakash Kapadia, reportedly also consulted historian Ninad Bedekar. Research brought members of the crew to the two-storeyed Raja Dinkar Kelkar Museum in Pune’s crowded Shukrawar Peth. They visited twice, says the museum’s director, Sudhanva Ranade, whose grandfather and founder of the establishment, D G Kelkar, wrote poems in admiration of Bajirao.
The museum’s collection ranges from objects of everyday use to royal artifacts from the 18th to 20th centuries. Parts of the Mastani Mahal, believed to have been built by the Peshwa for his beloved, have been preserved here and became a reference point for the film’s makers. It is a useful peek into the decor of that era: ornamental columns, arches, windows and seating areas all carved in dark brown wood as well as chandeliers and lamps.
Kapadia, who has the voice and inflection of a movie narrator, talks emotionally about the effort behind the film. In the years since its conception, multiplexes sprung up and audiences preferred shorter, youthful tales. His three-hour script was shortened to two hours. He combined the novel Rauu with knowledge from other books, maps and lectures by historians, cutting himself off from people for ten months to write the story.
Kapadia says he consciously stayed away from depicting the intricacies of Maharashtra culture that would have to be explained. Hints of it will be in the costumes and dialogues. “We wanted a universal flavour because this story could be anywhere. The focus is on the tremendous inherent conflict — a married Brahmin man’s love for an outsider with Muslim roots.”
Designer Anju Modi created around 80 saris for the film after studying museums in Mumbai and Pune, and visiting smaller towns like Paithan, Chanderi and Maheshwar.
Along with Ranveer Singh on a trip to Nashik, she learnt how to fashion and drape traditional dhotis. In a remote area of Pune, Modi says she found a local to create typical turbans. She had two distinct styles to draw from — Maratha for Bajirao and his first wife, Kashibai, and Islamic for Mastani.
Another rich source of inspiration for Modi was Maratha paintings that helped her internalise the period. Paintings of Ravi Varma helped make-up artist Uday Shirali decide on a look for little-known Kashibai. He kept make-up to a minimum, using under-eye cream and foundation to give Chopra a younger look since women married early in those times.
If nothing else, Bhansali’s films are known for their sets. Sriram Iyengar first heard of Bhansali’s plan for a film on the Peshwas 12 years ago. Between assignments, Iyengar began studying Maratha forts and put together preliminary drawings of various sets. When the period film was revived, someone else was named art director. But a few meetings and twists of fate later, Iyengar and business partner Sujeet Sawant were taken onboard. Saloni Dhatrak joined them to offer expertise on Mughal architecture. Together they recreated Shaniwarwada with Kashi’s villa and a mirror chamber.
Traditionally, the Marathas built simple forts with smaller rooms but Bhansali wanted everything to be scaled up. “He said he cannot have his protagonists in kholis,” says Iyengar.
Bhansali is famously idiosyncratic. Bajirao’s descendants point out that they were not approached in the run-up to the film and during most of the shooting. The Peshwas were invited on set once. Tamkeen says he tried to contact Bhansali to express his concerns over the depiction but received a lukewarm response, compelling him to move the courts for justice. Some aspects like an animated teaser on Bajirao were encouraging but the songs drew their ire.
The families are involved in regular fields like education and mechanics but routine lives have hardly dulled their pride in the laurels of ancestors. The Peshwas have to now buy Rs 5 tickets to see Shaniwarwada, a heritage site under the Archaelogical Survey of India. When it closes at 6 pm and they are herded out with other visitors, Mahendra laughs at the irony of being asked to leave “his own home”.
Our anger must reach Bhansali, say both the families. This curious battle has allowed Bajirao’s descendents to discover a dormant warrior spirit, at the receiving end of which is a headstrong Bollywood director.
— Ranjita Ganesan, Shashikant Trivedi in Mumbai
BUSINESS STANDARD
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December 21, 2015 at 2:25 PM
Bajirao Mastaani To Find It Tough At The Box Office
Wednesday 16 December 2015 12.30 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
Bajirao Mastaani will find it a tough struggle at the box office for two reasons, The first being its a clash against a big film and the second being a weak director who normally finds regional success which will not do with this huge budget. This regional success becomes an even bigger issue with a clash. Below are the ratios for Sanjay Leela Bhansali directed films for Mumbai circuit.
Khamoshi – 38.02%
Hum Dil De Chuke Sanam – 46.86%
Devdas – 31.27%
Black – 41.45%
Saawariya – 44.92%
Guzaarish – 40.16%
Goliyon Ki Raasleela Ram – Leela – 43.62%
All the films be it success or failure are lopsided in Mumbai circuit barring Devdas which has a normal ratio and that was due to the presence of Shahrukh Khan. There will be around 100 crore up for a grabs in Mumbai circuit for both films and even if Bajirao Mastaani does excellent and takes half of it, the normal 42.5% ratio of Sanjay Leela Bhansali films will mean a little over 100 crore nett business but that is with a 50/50 result in Mumbai, the numbers will be scary if the circuit goes in the favour of Dilwale. The result Bajirao Mastaani will really need is to beat Dilwale at least 60/40.
The pluses for Bajirao Mastaani are that there is a lot of hype with the clash in the media and this may have created more awareness for the film than had it come alone. So despite the content holding little interest in places like Delhi / UP, East Punjab and West Bengal initially, maybe awareness could help bring in respectable footfalls in these areas.
Another plus is basically by default as the film will not get the huge release in terms of multiplex screens and a smaller release can sometimes work in favor of films which are regional or more niche in content especially if word of mouth strikes.
The third is that it did pre book the better single screens with Bajrangi Bhaijaan in Delhi /UP and Maharashtra and this should help expecially in Maharashtra. In Delhi / UP it will be less effective as the directors films barring Devdas have never worked in Delhi / UP. In fact in UP, all have been big duds outside Devdas.
The film should manage to do well in Maharashtra, CP Berar and Marathawada side of Nizam though it is Gujarat that will be deciding factor for the film, if Dilwale goes the way all Rohit Shetty films go in Gujarat then the writing will be on the wall for Bajirao Mastaani as Mumbai circuit will not be up to the mark and with Gujarat not performing and its very unlikely that other areas can come to the rescue.
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December 21, 2015 at 2:26 PM
BOI has removed this article 🙂
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December 21, 2015 at 2:26 PM
gaurav gaur (@gauravgaur9) 7 mins ago
Major drop in #Dilwale rajasthan day four 38 lakhs..!!!! Where as #BajiraoMastani rajasthan day 4 is 52 lakhs almost same as Friday..!!
gaurav gaur (@gauravgaur9) 5 mins ago
#Dilwale india must be 8crs while #BajiraoMastani around 10 cr Monday day four… Bajirao is ahead of Diwale today..!!!
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December 21, 2015 at 2:37 PM
SRK might have learned the lesson now I think…ranveer singh almost defeating him…its not his old days when he crushed Jaaneman or Saawariya…add to that both were bad movies while BM was always going to better compared to RS movie..even SOS almost went tooth and nail with JTHJ…add to that srk spoiling his career non stop doing crap movies like ce,jthj,hny and dilwale…yeah ce did great but its hardly good movie…even salman have dabang and bb in between…fan already looks flop…only raees looks interesting…if raees doesn’t turn out to be great he will slip further
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December 21, 2015 at 2:51 PM
“fan already looks flop” .. Not really, Manish Sharma is interesting director with successful track record.
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December 21, 2015 at 3:00 PM
The problem with Fan is that it looks like an ad for SRK. We’ve talked about this before. It could still be fine as a film but once again note the problem here. This sort of film might have made much more sense a number of years ago when SRK was actually at his peak. Then this ‘I am a great star’ pitch might have made more sense. This is again a kind of nostalgic deal in that sense. SRK is not able to get away from the ‘I am the king’ paradigm whether it’s Don or Fan or whatever. His ‘different’ stuff has in the recent past more often than not been predicated on this idea. So even with Raees you have a certain kind of gangster. Why can’t SRK just do a script-oriented different film? Note how the one film where he didn’t do this, CDI, actually worked for him. In his earlier career too he was often an underdog. But the same angle becomes problematic in Fan when you have the double and the great star right there. The films might still work but the reason I doubt it is for some of these ‘semiotic’ reasons coupled with SRK’s relatively poorer sense in these matters. Sometimes a film that works well with one star might not be as effective with a different one even if everything else remains the same. Otherwise the Fan trailers are fine. Didn’t really care for Raees at all though.
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December 21, 2015 at 3:23 PM
Fan could turn out to be good movie..but it can turn out to be disaster as well..and from bo point of view I think even if its good it won’t be big success…gives billu barber vibe…Raees to me looks better both critically and commercially…however with srk’s recent year track record who knows, both can turn out to be bad…Will be interesting to see where Ranveer goes from here…he have Aditya Chopra’s next
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December 21, 2015 at 3:28 PM
Unless there is some good back story or fatality involved the movie will not find acceptance.
Manish is the Band Baja Baraat director so I am assuming screenplay will be grounded and not superficial.
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December 21, 2015 at 3:14 PM
Contd from my comments here
This will be incomplete without mentioning Kashibai aka PC who brings a certain dignity & control to her part (that ironically had limited options).. PC is one of the most ‘complete’ & competent heroines on the indian screens and she proves it yet again
Deepikas seems a unidimensional role of an ‘obsessed’ lover but it was actually much more than that & she LIVED the role …
As for Bajirao –it was only apt that he could never be killed by his enemies on the warfield but he perished to his own demons & hallucinations
And to give credit to the subject & screenplay, the ambiguity was rightly maintained about what was more instrumental in ending bajirao —
His ‘longing’ for Mastaani or the lingering guilt towards Kashibai..
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December 21, 2015 at 3:25 PM
Bajirao Mastani is a project which had it script locked for a good 10-12 years back. On top of that SLB took a self exile where he hardly did only 2 movies ( Saawariya & Guzaarish ) in good 6/7 years until Ram Leela in 2013 where he again resumed work on Bajirao Mastani. So if the characters are all sketched properly or the tone is even in this movie , then a lot of it has to be due to the time the project has taken even if one were to disregard the drafting and redrafting of the scripts and polishing your product.
This is not the case with Dilwale which more or less came into being early in the year when Fan release had to be stalled either due to reshoot /vfx which yrf teams claims. Dilwale looked hastily done and it’s the Rohit types who could actually get things done at such notice and present the movie within this year and still the movie is not bad and better than HNY at least.
So yes SRK is definitely at fault for wanting to clash at such short notice with a quick fix masala product against a well oiled project in the making for a decade…. but bottom-line is the overall run of the movie (inspite of the scale of BM) will still fall short of Dilwale final run. The numbers and gap is still visible and difference is only due to scale of stardom. Even with a 10 cr Monday BM is at 56 cr. Does one really feel this is Mugle e azam that the crowd will keep coming back here and movie goes on to make 200cr? The movie has found acceptance that is why it will do a 100-110 cr instead of wrapping up at 65-75 cr.
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December 21, 2015 at 3:30 PM
But 100-110crr is big win for BM while 125-130crr will be awfully bad for a srk starrer…clash or no clash
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December 21, 2015 at 3:39 PM
“But 100-110crr is big win for BM while 125-130crr will be awfully bad for a srk starrer…clash or no clash”
Lol.. so BM’s success is depended on the D’s final total? Like D flopped and did only 130, so lets call BM success at 110. Funny to say the least.
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December 21, 2015 at 3:37 PM
“. Even with a 10 cr Monday BM is at 56 cr. Does one really feel this is Mugle e azam that the crowd will keep coming back here and movie goes on to make 200cr? The movie has found acceptance that is why it will do a 100-110 cr instead of wrapping up at 65-75 cr”
The more noise is about Dilwale not doing well rather than BM doing well again compared to the expectations. That’s about it. Bhansali coming after Saawariya and Guzarish had Ram Leela which did 115 crores. Now, with twice the budget of RL, BM doing same amount is success? People are just comparing the better WOM to a massy RS movie and calling it success conveniently forgetting that it still has to earn money to become a success.. getting better WOM is not going to help Eros, the numbers are not there compared to its budget and scale.
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December 21, 2015 at 10:43 PM
Master if budget is the criterion, then SRK’s Ra-1 lost money with respect to its budget and HNY just made some table profit. Former is a flop budget wise and latter an average at best and so is Devdas, which had a budget of 40 Crores in 2002 and just recovered its investment, yet it’s called a hit. KANK is another one which just recovered its budget, yet a hit!, so with SRK, there are different rules applied for hit and flop or average tag. RDB with budget of 28 Crores and making 53 is just a hit and TZP is just a super hit and CDI a blockbuster with almost the same amount of collection with TZP having lesser budget than CDI!
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December 21, 2015 at 3:40 PM
How is 100-110 cr a big number for a movie with scale like Bajirao Mastani ??
I agree if Dilwale halts at 125-130cr then it is definitely a bad number for srk….clash or no clash.
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December 21, 2015 at 3:57 PM
For me BM had to be a good film to succeed. I don’t know the economics but I’d imagine the way it’s headed it’s a safe proposition…and the actors, director will gain mileage from it.
Possibly even being a poor film D is safe.
But is that really the game SRK is about these days? Just pure economics. Eventually distributors will cry and revolt and he’ll budget a big film and someone won’t pay the price.
I’d rather associate myself with former, far more risk proof. Ultimately everyone reaps success. The latter will leave even the most ardent of fans eventually revolting. I’ve seen many letters of disgruntled fans of SRK on Facebook. He can’t carry on like this for too long.
Bad career management since CDI.
Just one big circus after another.
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December 21, 2015 at 4:04 PM
@Bad career management since CDI.
Absolutely ! That is the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
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December 21, 2015 at 4:17 PM
It takes some effort to break the partnerships for SRK. So, with MNIK, Karan is gone from his life. Then HNY, Farah is gone and now hopefully after D, Rohit will be gone. Future lies with the new crop of directors like Manesh, Dholakia, Gauri Shinde, Anand L Rai etc and how they utilize SRK.
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December 21, 2015 at 4:23 PM
He should have been done with Farah after OSO. But your right it’s hard to play ball with those that helped your career especially if you have fairly average script sense.
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December 21, 2015 at 4:47 PM
“..if you have fairly average script sense.”
I think only Aamir fans started this new trend.. earlier there were actors and they were judge based on that. Aamir Khan( & Salman to an extent) has been hearing story sessions from childhood when his dad used to have story sittings every sunday at his office. He started understanding the the scripts very clearly at an early age.
Fans like actors not their script sense. Just someone not having same script sense doesn’t mean they need not be an actor or popular one at that. Even Amitabh never had a good script sense, same with Madhuri, etc. Still they became huge stars irrespective of that and whenever they get great directors.. they make classics. The same is whenever SRK gets a great script, he will make another CDI or whatever. He’s foremost an actor and huge star. He gave free hand for RS in Dilwale to make his kind of movie whereas he had lot of involvement in CE.
Also, if you look at any interview he would never say that I signed Diwale for the script of something. It was always for the directors.. he signs very few movies for scripts and Fan, Raees being few of them.
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December 21, 2015 at 6:34 PM
agree that most stars have poor script sense. However this matters more in an age where there is a premium on doing a certain kind of prestige film. It didn’t matter as much in the 90s. But your response is a somewhat paradoxical one. If you say you’re happy with whatever he does then you shouldn’t have these other ambitions for him to get grossers as big as anyone else or to enjoy that sort of critical acclaim. Because for those things you do need better script sense. If you’re happy with the list you’ve put up that probably puts you in a group with some of SRK’s competitors. They’re probably happy too that he sticks to this stuff. I’ll say this for myself. Even with Bachchan in his one man industry phase in the 80s, even more dominant in some ways than he was in the 70s I can’t say I’m happy with most of his choices. Because even within very commercial entertainment one prefers the somewhat more meaningful. I’m not crazy to think that stars can just do sensible stuff all the time. But one hopes for a certain mean. At least I can’t subscribe to your very generous view of things where once one becomes a star one does well or not in the right film depending on external factors. One doesn’t have to use one’s mind at all! And to be honest maybe it’s not SRK’s fault at all. When you have fans praising him for getting rich more than anything he does in films, when you have people appreciating his marketing more than content, so on and so forth, why should he change?! I’m not against the marketing. He could do as much as he wishes. It’s just hard to believe that one cannot come up with a better script sometimes. On Dilwale by the way I’m not sure if this was completely Shetty’s call. I think SRK wanted a bigger deal than CE, probably suggested this idea and Shetty might have been willing to go with it. Otherwise Shetty never really trades in nostalgia in this way. I think he could have had a bigger deal than CE. he had the right director. At least to get the right initial going. He just needed a somewhat better script.
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December 21, 2015 at 4:17 PM
Actually, since those CDI days, its been cricket, studios, TV shows, ads, and everything else except movies for him. He probably figured that his time spent in all the rest was more valuable than micromanaging his original ‘actor’ career. So its doubtful he has any remorse as he looks back at year after year of continuous and significant wealth appreciation. With a proven formula that ensures breakeven plus returns even in the worst of his outings, it is doubtful he cares too hoots for the fate of his films now, especially after turning 50. He is probably just counting his blessings and his money, and having fun doing so.
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December 21, 2015 at 4:28 PM
Certainly he’s making money but the adulation of fans is diminishing. He can afford some big flops clearly…but that downward cycle is avoidable. He can essentially do both if not why risk. Just do business. Become Ambani. Make crores. Be the wealthiest man in India.
Let’s just you right. That is pretty sad. And feel sorry for his fans…idolising a star who gives two hoots, filling his own coffers.
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December 21, 2015 at 4:52 PM
“Let’s just you right. That is pretty sad. And feel sorry for his fans…idolising a star who gives two hoots, filling his own coffers.
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You really don’t understand the ‘fan’ thing I suppose and neither stars unless his name is Aamir Khan.
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December 21, 2015 at 4:55 PM
Well explain it then , explain HNY RA1 etc…except you never feel cheated. What is that then?
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December 21, 2015 at 5:13 PM
“Well explain it then , explain HNY RA1 etc…except you never feel cheated. What is that then?”
Lol. So, you can’t like an actor and dislike a movie? Weird question.
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December 21, 2015 at 5:16 PM
Of course you can but the strike rate you boys playing on even sehwag would be proud.
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December 21, 2015 at 5:23 PM
Okay, lets see how many Ra.One’s he has given in last decade? HNY was no certainly no Ra.One. What else? Lets see. Yeah if this was Sehwag’s strike rate, he would have been in last year’s world cup! 🙂
Dilwale – Average
HNY – Average
CE – Good
JTHT – Average/slow
DON2 – Good
Ra.One – Bad
MNIK – Good/Average
Rab Ne – Good
OSO – Good
CDI – Good
Don – Good
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December 21, 2015 at 6:41 PM
most of these ratings are quite generous if you ask me. And this is part of the problem. Anything that’s not a disaster is defined as good or average. Well then there really is no problem. Aamir and Salman can keep doing what they are and SRK can keep doing what he is. We can argue about everything but surely those gaps are not debatable. By the way it’s not just about the gross. It’s about truly iconic films as well. Bajrangi for instance means something beyond its gross. Aamir of course has a long history with this stuff. It seems remarkable to me that SRK fans can keep coming up with such lists and saying essentially there’s no problem and yet when some of us try to argue for a guy who has Lagaan, DCH, Fanaa, RDB, TZP, Ghajini, 3I, PK on his resume and whose ‘disappointments’ are a 90 crore Talaash (evidently Dilwale is a hit at 120 if I recall one of the claims here! But then for years now I’ve never quite understood this magical accounting system put forward by the trade! or an MP which in today’s money and following that trending would have done ETT or CE-like business.. not exaggerating in the slightest by the way) somehow we’re going over the top! If this list above is ok, Aamir is not just ahead but in a different universe!
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December 21, 2015 at 3:57 PM
If Shivay is indeed an Eros product, I will not be surprised if Salman true to his nature and due to new found camaraderie with SRK may want to start eating into their profit and teach them a lesson …more so since he was not happy with Eros using his Bajrangi Bhaijaan to cut a deal for BM…….Eros is also a yrf nemesis and since the chips are down at the moment for Eros ( stock market / bankruptcy market news few months back ) this may be a good opportunity to boot them out.
Then again he is too much of Devgn friend to hurt him and clash with Shivay which is dream project for Devgn.
What we know is Salman has halted Sultan shoot due to bad health and it does not help with Eid date keep shifting earlier each year…..so he may want to establish a new ‘sought after’ date for others to start emulating.
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December 21, 2015 at 4:21 PM
I don’t consider this new friendship real in any sense…or rather I don’t see the affection lasting long. And avoiding the clash was a done deal, I pretty much said this after PRDP’s faltering performance that if D underperformed there is no way they will clash to cancel each other out and risk 2 underperformers in a row. Too much pride and money at stake.
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December 21, 2015 at 4:46 PM
Girish Johar (@girishjohar) 1 hour ago
Double digits Monday BO seems difficult for both the respective films individually #Dilwale #BajiraoMastani
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December 21, 2015 at 7:53 PM
wth maan.
10 Rs tickets in hyderabad here – http://in.bookmyshow.com/buytickets/cinepolis-ccpl-mall-malkajgiri-hyderabad/cinema-hyd-CPCL-MT/20151222
Srk should be happy dilwale shows are cut by 50% from thursday in this theatre.
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December 21, 2015 at 8:22 PM
Rofl.
Here, 8 shows were alloted for Dilwale on weekdays and 5 to BM, but dilwale shows are already deduced to 4, All of BM shows are intact.
https://www.google.com/#q=amc+dublin+village+18
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December 21, 2015 at 8:39 PM
Raghav, you seem obsessed with these bollywood ticket booking sites. I mean we are talking about Hindi movies here……where majority audience still deals in ‘rokda’ i.e hard cash.
This internet booking fad is not widespread and movie going option still on the spur of the moment / impulsive idea for most.
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December 21, 2015 at 9:27 PM
yeah Raghav is a one man army when it comes to Dilwale! I say this with some hesitation because he’ll soon accuse me of being a SRK fan! But here let me make things a little more interesting and feed all paranoias at once.. I’m pretty sure I’ve seen more SRK films more times in the theater than Master!
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December 21, 2015 at 10:00 PM
I understand but if this goes true, many will go faint.
KRK BOX OFFICE @KRKBoxOffice 22m22 minutes ago
#BajiraoMastani collected approx 10Cr on Monday n #Dilwale collected approx 8Cr
And it is possible –
KRK BOX OFFICE @KRKBoxOffice 3m3 minutes ago
Monday- Rajasthan #Dilwale 36Lakhs, #BajiraoMastani 50Lakhs, Punjab-#Dilwale 75lakhs. #BajiraoMastani 85Lakhs.
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December 21, 2015 at 10:07 PM
I hope Srkians dont start crying now.
Girish Johar @girishjohar 43s43 seconds ago
Monday Gurgaon #Dilwale 9.92lacs #BajiraoMastani 18.51lacs aproxs …. What a turn around…almost double 👏👏👏👍
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December 21, 2015 at 8:42 PM
This is where things stand & the weekend gap worldwide clearly visible
WORLDWIDE Dilwale 145 Crore Bajirao Mastani 85 Crore
Dilwale has taken the third best opening Worldwide this year of 145-150 crore. The figures are behind Bajrangi Bhaijaan and Prem Ratan Dhan Payo bot of which had big holidays in the opening weekend. Bajirao Mastani has recorded the fifth best Worldwide figures of the year at 85-90 crore. It is Welcome Back that separates the two films. The top five Worldwide opening weekends of 2015 are as follows.
1. Bajrangi Bhaijaan – 187 crore
2. Prem Ratan Dhan Payo – 185 crore
3. Dilwale – 145-150 crore
4. Welcome Back – 90 crore
5. Bajirao Mastaani – 85-90 crore
No film has ever grossed 200 crore Worldwide in the opening weekend but together Dilwale and Bajirao Mastani have easily crossed the 200 crore mark with the combined total to be 230 crore on a worst case scenario.
http://www.boxofficeindia.com/art_detail.php?articalid=1669#.VnimyxUrKM8
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December 21, 2015 at 8:45 PM
“No film has ever grossed 200 crore Worldwide in the opening weekend but together Dilwale and Bajirao Mastani have easily crossed the 200 crore mark with the combined total to be 230 crore on a worst case scenario.”
so basically the trade in general has benefited due to this clash.
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December 21, 2015 at 8:54 PM
Best ever domestic weekend was during BB second weekend, when Drishyam first weekend and Baahubali third weekend also performed very well. And combined weekend was 120 cr.
BM + dilwale weekend was 112 cr.
In Overseas, last weekend was the biggest ever with 13 mn , that makes it biggest ever ww weekend.
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December 21, 2015 at 10:09 PM
if we combine the totals of Gadar and Lagaan…then Aamir and Sunny had their 100cr films long before anyone else!
This combination talk is idiotic and adds nothing to box office reporting especially when negating the reporting of costs of both films!
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December 21, 2015 at 10:30 PM
the rather transparent aim here is to pretend that if only one film had released it would have got that kind of gross. But just because the market can handle such a gross (or something even bigger) doesn’t prove that an audience is completely transferable across films. Many people who might be interested in BM will not watch a Shetty film no matter what. And vice versa. Otherwise we’d have to say that either SOS or JTHJ could have made 215 crores or whatever when those films clashed! And yes your Gadar-Lagaan example is the right one. Note how this logic, ridiculous as it might be, never came up with those earlier clashes!
In one sense the failure of a Shetty film has shocked everyone. this was least expected. But these things happen sometimes. I think there is a larger SRK narrative here which is also problematic as I’ve illustrated earlier. However if one refuses to see the obvious and if one keeps making excuses for every new underperformer or failure or even hit that doesn’t reach the highest levels these things follow. Ultimately it’s not about how we debate these things here. It’s about what’s actually happening out there. The numbers are there for all to see. Incidentally I’m not just saying this about Dilwale. PRDP performed very poorly, people expected this to be a 300 crore grosser, some thought it would outdo Bajrangi. It will short by a 100 crores at the very least. It even did less than Kick. You can’t then try for a consolation prize once this happens. Or with Bajrangi you had a Salman film more loved than anything else he’s done probably since Dabanng, it did very well, and that still wasn’t enough to get to PK. Now one can get into all sorts of excuses and what not. Except that these always seem to come up after the event, never before. If you start with the proposition that ‘if Aamir can get to a number then Salman and SRK can too and it’s only a question of the right film and the right date’ well then you have to explain why a number of films couldn’t do this for years (till inflation became a big enough factor). Finally it’s a bit odd to also claim that films that fail are bad films. As if there are some stars who get historic hits doing terrible stuff!
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December 21, 2015 at 11:30 PM
perfectly and (more importantly) accurately summed up.
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December 21, 2015 at 10:58 PM
Dilale First Monday Business
Tuesday 22 December 2015 09.30 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
Dilwale fell 55% on Monday as compared to Friday which is a bit more than the normal drop. Also with less business consumed on the weekend due to the clash the weekday trend should be better than normal. The business of Dilwale over the first four days is as follows.
Friday – 20,85,00,000
Saturday – 19,50,00,000
Sunday – 23,00,00,000
Monday – 9,50,00,000 apprx
TOTAL – 72,85,00,000
The first week business will probably be around 95 crore nett and then remains to be seen how well can it do in Xmas week but with this Monday drop a real big number is out of the question.
http://www.boxofficeindia.com/art_detail.php?articalid=1671#.VnjJfhUrLIU
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December 21, 2015 at 11:00 PM
Bajirao Mastani Is Very Steady On Monday
Tuesday 22 December 2015 09.30 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
Bajirao Mastani was very steady on Monday dropping just 15% on its first Monday as comapred to Friday. The hold was similar all in most circuits but Mumbai leads with 21 crore nett apprx business as it has held from higher levels. The business of Bajirao Mastaani over the first four days is as follows.
Friday – 12,25,00,000
Saturday – 15,00,00,00
Sunday – 17,75,00,000
Monday – 10,25,00,000 apprx
TOTAL – 55,25,00,000
The weekend growth did not suggest this type of hold on Monday but that is probably as the film could not show optimum growth due to competition from Dilwale which scored over the weekend. The first week business should go to around 80 crore nett plus and the film should be able to take benefit of holiday period next weekend.
http://www.boxofficeindia.com/art_detail.php?articalid=1672#.VnjJ8hUrLIU
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December 22, 2015 at 12:43 AM
http://www.india-forums.com/bollywood/hot-n-happening/59660-guess-who.htm
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December 22, 2015 at 12:50 AM
Looks like Dilwale is going to do very underwhelming business. The trending is poor and even 130cr may prove to be tough now.
To sum up SRK’s position, just look at the top 20 grossers (inflation unadjusted). Dilwale will only be his third movie to get into that list (if it does). CE and HNY are his only two notable grossers.
Aamir and Salman are in the 300cr club and they are operating at different levels. And Salman has 8 movies among those top 20 grossers. Aamir sets the benchmark while Salman has the volume and consistency. SRK is lagging far behind.
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December 22, 2015 at 1:25 AM
BM is all set to takeover Dilwale in the coming few weeks. It will be a rude shock for SRK and his fans. Its not that the movie is crap, its just that the negativity against SRK and his movies is unbelievable now. His comments on intolerance and repeated pro Pak comments have pissed off a lot of movie going audience. Feedback on Facebook and Whats up is nasty. Remember, Aamir is next in line. His recent statements on intolerance and leaving India bullshit have not gone down well with large section of young population. Sooner or later, Aamir will meet the same fate unless he course corrects.
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December 22, 2015 at 1:41 AM
I think D is not such a bad movie. And it is not a terrific movie.
Even PRDP did not do too well inspite of Salman Khan and his father being overfriendly with the establishment. The intolerance debate is limited to only certain areas and other areas like West Bengal will compensate. India is a big country with diversity. There is a grudge against the 3 Khans in certain quarters nowadays and they are rooting for non khans in a big way. Ultimately a film has to be liked. No one can force others to watch a particular movie to make a point.
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December 22, 2015 at 2:45 AM
The grudge against the Khans has started long back and their success at the top for such a long time is also annoying their competitors. Akshay and Ranbir and Ranveer can give good competition and end their reign. Afterall the Khans are getting old.
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December 22, 2015 at 3:22 AM
Yes I agree. there is a lot of hatred towards “Khans” and specifically SRK and Aamir and it is quite obvious from the lies that are spread through whatsapp about Khans… but it does not affect the business of movies because the target audience of such messages would not have anyways seen the film.
such blatant lies sometimes may even be helping the business of Khan movies because some people after reading such messages may just decide to watch the movie out of sympathy. so to say that the intolerance debate/hatred may have affected the Dilwale business isnt correct.
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December 22, 2015 at 3:05 AM
There is definitely a big backlash against him on social media, but doubtful that the average moviegoer is out to spite SRK for his immature rhetoric. Rather, people have got tired of these brainless potboilers now. People would rather spend their hard earned money to watch something that stays in their minds when they walk out of the theater. Brainless re-hash of different props (eg Shetty fetish for rolling out bright cars and blowing them up!) and mindless comedy/action does not count any more. We’ ve had enough of it. The Monday figures showing BM beating Dilwale is testament to this new reality. When people had a choice to see something more meaningful, they went for it.
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December 22, 2015 at 3:17 AM
The truth is these so called superstars assume themselves to be demigods once they reach certain level and start behaving like all knowing and all pervading judgmental messiahs and keep passing comments that are substandard or offensive. Above all they supplement one another when faced with public outrage. There is always a limit for public acceptance of this kind of nonsensical utterances. For all its drawbacks, India is the best place for everyone to coexist. There is no Utopian country in the world which is problem free. These superstars give their invaluable opinions to majority community and their religion only. They keep their 9 holes shut when it involves other communities and issues relating to other religions. That will eventually make people piss off. Freedom and freedom of speech is to be used with the same yardstick for everyone. Otherwise they will be remembered as idiotic dumb heads who possess brains of bedbugs.
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December 22, 2015 at 4:49 AM
Just try to re-read the stuff you have written as that is neither sane nor rational!! You are pretending as if you are “Omniscient” and “Infallible” and never in your whole life committed any mistake so to speak and also condescending tone towards “Khans” as if they are beggars and you are the “Philanthropist” who has been supporting them to lead their “Opulent” life!! Your malicious feelings against a specific community can easily be read through in your vitriolic comments against “Khans”. Khans are popular only and only for single reason that they are better than the rest of their competitors and their popularity has nothing to do with their surnames as Art or any skill doesn’t differentiate on the basis of Religion, cast, colour or ethnicity, but people like you are hell-bent upon creating the rift where there is none!!
Let’s presume for a moment if it were Akshay Kumar in place of Aamir Khan, would the negativity and hatred have been same and would he also have to face “go to Pakistan” kind of comments?? As long as Aamir would keep mum and continue his support for Modi, he is a “Model” to be emulated, but the moment he raised some uncomfortable questions, he is a “Traitor and Pakistani”. As long as Aamir keeps delivering Sarfarosh, Lagaan, MP, RDB, TZP, 3 Idiots, SMJ, he is genuine and “Rashtra Bhakt”. Let’s not discredit all his past contribution and question his sincerity and genuineness just because we don’t subscribe to his set of views!!
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December 22, 2015 at 5:24 AM
I never mentioned anybody by name. If the intolerant rants are uttered by Kumars, Bachhans or Kapoors they will also get the same reply from me. No body is infallible. We are humans. I never say to an Indian to go and live in some other country when I pretty well know that other countries have their own failings. Your first paragraph says that I have hatred towards somebody but that is utter rubbish and you have a problem of understanding English sentences. I am proud of every Indian who contributes for this Nation. But when Individuals who are benefited by the generosity of a Nation and its citizens, start abusing the same Nation for their own personal agendas, then as a citizen of the same Nation I have a right to point out their fallibility.The so called superstars whether it is Amitabh, SRK, Amir, Salman, Akshay or Hrithik start misusing their stardom and pursue their personal agendas that is detrimental to the Nation then one can express his views. They should be more responsible than a common citizen like you and me when they utter their views because that is widely covered and more chane of creating impact. As for as your reply to me, i am not offended as it is your understanding that has a problem but not my writing. Read again my previous post and chill.Truth always hurts and bitter truth hurts bitterly. These stars are intolerant towards the Nation but I never said anything intolerant towards them. By the way, doing a Lagaan, Sarfarosh, MP, RDB, TZP, 3 Idiots, SMJ dose not give anyone a license to utter nonsensical rubbish that comes through his mind.
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December 22, 2015 at 6:21 AM
Sometimes we say things which we do not mean it in a bad way. When he said those words, he must have said it as a concerned Indian and not as a concerned muslim. Many hindus also say that and most of the awardwapsi folks are hindus. If I criticise my parents which I did sometimes, it does not mean that I dont love them or I want to leave them.
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December 22, 2015 at 9:45 AM
Man, you need to take your frustrations somewhere else. This blog is not to just come every time to rant your political opinions.. no one is interested in them. Folks talk here about movies and then get diverted into political discussions once in a while(unlike you). Yes, you don’t like any of the Khans, we get it.. now move on.
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December 22, 2015 at 9:18 PM
“They keep their 9 holes shut when it involves other communities and issues relating to other religions”. Who wrote this sentence and which community are you referring to?? Don’t conceal your hatred as it is good to release “suppressed sentiments” lying long as it can hurt your well being both mentally and physically 🙂 And what do you mean by intolerant towards the Nation as if they are found guilty of “Treason” and “Rioting”!! And your generosity bit is very intricate as i had already asked you by watching their movies ” Are you doing any charity to them??” And i hope this very “Truth” doesn’t hurt you 🙂
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December 22, 2015 at 2:21 AM
It’s been a long while that Salman Khan has been shooting continuously for his upcoming movie ‘Sultan’. The actor has been seen juggling shoots between ‘Sultan’ and ‘Bigg Boss Nau’ due to which he hasn’t got anytime to spend by himself.
Recently, we reported about the wrap up of the first schedule of ‘Sultan’ and now we hear that the team will have to postpone the second schedule as the actor isn’t keeping too well.
As per reports in a leading daily, Salman has cancelled the second schedule due to health issues. The second portion involved shooting for some solid wrestling scenes but since the actor wanted to rest and be fit for the rigorous shooting sessions it had to be pushed forward.
However, the makers are yet to finalize the leading actress of the film and the hunt is still on for the suitable match to be cast opposite Salman.
‘Sultan’ directed by Ali Abbas Zafar stars Salman Khan in the lead role and is all set to hit the big screens in Eid 2016.
http://www.india-forums.com/bollywood/hot-n-happening/59667-salman-health-becomes-an-issue-for-the-second-schedule-of-ultan.htm
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December 22, 2015 at 2:29 AM
http://indianexpress.com/article/entertainment/bollywood/farhan-akhtar-defends-aamir-khan-shah-rukh-khan-over-intolerance-row/
Farhan akhtar defends
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December 22, 2015 at 3:25 AM
today’s feedback from twitter is that Dilwale will settle below 125cr while BM may even cross 140cr.
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December 22, 2015 at 3:39 AM
Good comments all over by avik, jayadev, nykavi
No amount of spin, moderation can change the ‘truth’…
Those obsessed with numbers can take a chill pill
The reality is that stuff like dildowaale (havnet seen it) may make more than BM, may have blind fans protecting their icons
Numbers nowithstanding —In this instance, the likes of dildowaale and rohit shetty don’t deserve to STAND In the same room as bhansali & bajirao
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December 22, 2015 at 6:16 AM
wow,
then this is the disaster for srk,SLB knew he had excellent product to pitch against dilwale…” sweet revenge ” thats what I call…
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December 22, 2015 at 6:36 AM
Contd from my comments trail linked here
To heck with the microdissection & pseuodointellectual sh.t goin on
Some WHISTLEWORTHY War scenes
1) wherein bajirao leaps and jumps on top of two soldiers successively then killing the enemy leader
2) As mentioned earlier, when he tears apart an entire army single handedly
Last but least When bajirao INSISTS
Maine Mastaani se mohabbat kee hai
Aiyaashi nahin …
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December 22, 2015 at 6:46 AM
http://www.mid-day.com/articles/aamir-khan-meets-fan-suffering-from-progeria-receives-special-gift/16795172
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December 22, 2015 at 6:46 AM
EXPANDED from my comment above —
This will be incomplete without mentioning Kashibai aka PC who brings a certain dignity & control to her part (that ironically had limited options).. PC is one of the most ‘complete’ & competent heroines on the indian screens and she proves it yet again
Deepikas seems a unidimensional role of an ‘obsessed’ lover but it was actually much more than that & she LIVED the role …
As for Bajirao –it was only apt that he could never be killed by his enemies on the warfield but he perished to his own demons & hallucinations
And to give credit to the subject & screenplay, the AMBIGUITY was rightly depicted about the CONLFICT as to what was MORE instrumental in ending bajirao —
His ‘LONGING’ (& TABOO LOVE) for Mastaani
OR
the LINGERING GUILT towards Kashibai..
Finally
Feel VINDICATED seeing the positive response by the paying public …( they’ve responded better than I expected)
Aandhi roke to hum toofan,
toofan roke to hum AAG Ka dariya
🙂
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December 22, 2015 at 6:58 AM
@Anti-feminist satyam, i know even after my multiple requests, you didnt create post for Jai Gangaagal’s first poster, but here is trailer and you know priyanka has many times spoken, she is srk fan and also prakash jha has never been in conflict with srk. I hope atleast this inspires you to create a thread for trailer atleast.
[post created]
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December 22, 2015 at 7:02 AM
@Satyam, Just because this is female lead, no separate post for this. I cant believe this is happening here.
When Don and DON2 came suddenly, every srk fans becomes priyanka and start praising here mediocre performance blindly, separate post for her single absurd comment. Now, they all ignore it.
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December 22, 2015 at 7:05 AM
raghav,
priyanka is now kashibai,lol
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December 22, 2015 at 7:18 AM
Absolutely, just because she is in opposite film, forget a kind word, even her first look and trailer are ignored by srk fans and sympathizer. So much, intolerance.
Btw Here is the complete list of winners from star dust awards with some ridiculous categories:
Best Costume Design- Niharika Khan (Bombay Velvet)
Best Screenplay- Varun Grover (Masaan)
Best Story-Sriram Raghavan and Arijit Biswas (Badlapur)
Best Lyricist-Varun Grover (Masaan)
Best Playback Singer – Female- Palak Muchhal (Prem Ratan Dhan Paayo)
Best Playback Singer – Male- Armaan Malik (Hero)
Best Music Director-Amit Trivedi (Shandaar)
Best Music Album-Roy
Best Choreographer- Remo D’Souza (ABCD 2)
Best Actor in Supporting Role – Female- Shefali Shah (Dil Dhadakne Do)
Best Actor in Supporting Role – Male -Anil Kapoor (Dil Dhadakne Do)
Best Actor in Negative Role- Randeep Hooda (Main Aur Charles)
Best Actor in Comic Role- Kartik Aaryan (Pyaar Ka Punchnama 2)
Best Debut – Female- Bhoomi Pednekar (Dum Lagake Haisha)
Best Debut – Male – Sooraj Pancholi (Hero)
Filmmaker of the Year – Meghna Gulzar (Talwar) and Shonali Bose (Margarita With A Straw)
Editors Film of the Year- Dum Lagake Haisha
Best Film of the Year – Bajrangi Bhaijaan
Best Director of the Year – Kabir Khan (Bajrangi Bhaijaan)
Breakthrough Performance by a Child Artist- Harshali Malhotra (Bajrangi Bhaijaan)
Power-packed Performer of the Year- Aishwarya Rai Bachchan
Stardust Editor’s Choice Performer of the Year – Female -Richa Chaddha (Masaan)
Stardust Editor’s Choice Performer of the Year – Male – Irrfan Khan (Piku)
Best Actor of the Year – Female – Deepika Padukone (Piku)
Best Actor of the Year – Male – Amitabh Bachchan
Style Icon of the Year- Parineeti Chopra
Best Debut Jodi- Sooraj Pancholi and Athiya Shetty
Lifetime Achievement Award – Jeetendra
Pride of the Industry – Anu Malik
Timeless Diva – Zeenat Aman
Sansui Entertainer of the Year- Varun Dhawan
Special Recognition to a Casting Director- Mukesh Chhabra
http://www.abplive.in/movies/salmans-bajrangi-bhaijaan-wins-big-on-sansui-colors-stardust-awards-heres-the-complete-list-of-winners-263550
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December 22, 2015 at 10:15 AM
**@Satyam, Just because this is female lead, no separate post for this. I cant believe this is happening here.**
Raghav, have you ever paused to consider that for the moderator of a free-for-all blog, it might not be a full time job?? That Satyam may have parents, wife, kids, taxes, and unpaid parking tickets to pay? Or worse still, he might be checking out both D and BM in theaters to figure out what the hell’s this kinder-garten blood-bath going on here on his blog regarding box-office baniyagiri between ‘fans’ and something called human beings?
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December 22, 2015 at 10:46 AM
Ha! Thanks for that note An Jo. Since Raghav follows the bookings for every single show he probably assumes everyone has his kind of time. On the film I did see the link he put up but I don’t know if this is a significant film, who’s making it and so on. Don’t know anything about it. Of course I don’t put up posts on every single film. But if there’s something noteworthy here I will.
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December 22, 2015 at 9:25 PM
Satyam another humble request if you could put up up Neerja trailer on the main page!!
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December 22, 2015 at 10:23 PM
done
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December 22, 2015 at 7:02 AM
‘Bajirao Mastani’ Scores Well At Overseas Markets
http://www.koimoi.com/box-office/bajirao-mastani-scores-well-at-overseas-markets/
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December 22, 2015 at 10:48 AM
ok I just saw this comment.. didn’t know it was a Jha film. I’ll put up a post. In any case I’m so afraid of being tagged an anti-feminist.
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December 22, 2015 at 7:02 AM
Why the hell will Bajirao make less than Dilwale?
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December 22, 2015 at 8:22 AM
http://www.ibnlive.com/news/tech/cow-becomes-yahoo-indias-personality-of-the-year-2015-1180067.html
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December 22, 2015 at 9:53 AM
Rohit Shetty: Not ‘Bajirao Mastani’, but ban affected Dilwale’s collection
The 41-year-old director said he was always prepared for the face off with Sanjay Leela Bhansali’s ‘Bajirao Mastani’. “We all were aware that ‘Dilwale’ and ‘Bajirao Mastani’ are coming together, so, I was prepared for that competition and the harm we will give each other. But I think what affected the Friday and Saturday collections were the ban in Rajasthan and MP. “Almost 40 per cent of the theaters were not showing the film and we resumed on Sunday morning… It’s all mathematics, how many theaters we are running in we will get the collections according to that,” Rohit told PTI. The “Chennai Express” helmer thinks bans are the outcome of “misunderstanding” and if dealt with patience things can be settled out easily.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/hindi/bollywood/news/Rohit-Shetty-Not-Bajirao-Mastani-but-ban-affected-Dilwales-collection/articleshow/50281876.cms?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=TOIEntertain1
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December 22, 2015 at 10:33 AM
How much 40% theatres of Rajasthan and MP contributes ? Even best performing movies collects around 2 Crore combined .. so 40% is like 80 lakhs, that too if collections are like Dhoom-3 or PK …. In case of Dilwale, even if we believe on 40% shows cancelled, loss is not more than 35-40 lakhs.
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December 22, 2015 at 10:50 AM
I think folks on here are turning a blind eye to everything about Dilwale and wants to believe that suddenly 1 day Indian audience has developed taste and they decided to not watch regular commercial Rohit Shetty-SRK-Kajol movie and hence its doing bad. I mean, can the movie be flop even when released solo and without issues? YES, ofcourse. But if you tell me that no external factors contributed and suddenly none of them came to watch the movie on 1st weekend itself, its hard to believe. Indian masses doesn’t have that evolved taste to ignore a movie like Dilwale on 1st day. I think every site out there has said Dilwale to be the most red-hot SRK film in years and then not opening well coz of the content is BS. I don’t any of the reviews or feedback is so bad so that the movie falls on 1st day itself or doesn’t open. Even the folks who watched never predicted this.
As a general assumption, we all know regular movie audience doesn’t care about political situation and don’t really boycott movies but times are changing I’ve seen too many folks in real life who are doing it now. You see folks like Jayadev popping up here all the time who would not spend $1 on any of these Khan movies.
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December 22, 2015 at 11:11 AM
what happened with Jai Ho? every Salman film before or after has opened big irrespective of director. What happened with this one all of a sudden? As for whether people are playing up the negativity or putting up comments cynically that’s a different debate. That’s not one on the facts of the film. Forget all the chatter. Whatever is happening with the film is unexpected for sure (I certainly didn’t expect this even in the worst case scenario). However these things happen sometimes. There are lots of solos that collapse when they’re not liked. The other assumption you’re making is that only films that are hated do poorly. that’s not true either. When that happens you have Besharam. A lot of flops are just films that the majority of the audience either didn’t like or found very average. That’s enough to explain the numbers. In some of the other cases huge initials express a greater level of interest but those films still fall as fast. A point I’ve made for years. But unexpected things happen for different reasons. Maybe the whole SRK-Kajol thing reached a tipping point for the audience. Maybe they just found it too stale. Maybe it didn’t generate enough interest. I can say that for years I’ve seen this sort of anecdotal evidence from SRK fans (forget others) who feel he’s old, that he’s not reinvented himself and so on. The numbers are there for all to see when you compare with Salman or Aamir. But SRK had enough of a base and enough of a history to nonetheless generate big initials in the right project. But again people weren’t focusing on what thee projects were. Dilwale hasn’t come out of nowhere. It’s certainly surprising that this has happened with a Shetty film. But the idea that this combo was simply killed by BM is a little absurd don’t you think? In other words if that is true SRK must not have been very big in the first place! I just think people have avoided the tea leaves here for a while. The media has kept spinning as has the trade. The fans have been blind (like other fans). But even if you don’t want to accept any of this there’s no great mystery here. A surprise yes but not a mystery. Even the most successful directors have failures. With SRK the problem is that that big one that just matches up with the biggest of his contemporaries continues to elude him. And this has been true for 8-9 years at the very least as far as I can tell. The lists are there for all to see. If one wants to just go by day 1 numbers or week 1 numbers on some of his biggest films and extrapolate from there that’s another matter. No one’s denying he’s not an important star. But this is a relative game. Hrithik has been a huge star from day 1. He’s just never outpaced whoever was ahead of him. Things stagnated for him beyond a point. He can still get huge openings. But that’s not the end of the debate.
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December 22, 2015 at 11:55 AM
Master: the media always tries to pump up fake hype, but can you honestly tell me that everyone was excited about Dilwaale prior to release? It seemed stale and passé– don’t forget that most cinema viewers today were kids or perhaps not even born the last time srk and kajol showed up together — the idea that the audience was just pining for this re-staging of a “classic” pairing was just bull to begin with. He’s had a good run but is demonstrably not the top Hindi film star anymore, and hasn’t been for the better part of a decade. If he doesn’t learn from this the returns will diminish further — and now if he is desperately casting about for a communal angle then he’s clearly not learning the right lessons (or knows that his core fanbase is also deluded).
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December 22, 2015 at 2:02 PM
Qalandar: All what you said will make sense *IF* Dilwale had opened to 50%. But it has opened over 85% with some protests on Fri & Sat and on Sunday when it was settled it reached 90% with 24 crores out of 26 max capacity.
Also, this was not only promoted on SRK-Kajol and Varun Dhawan (younger demographics) was prominently present through out movie and promotions.
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December 22, 2015 at 2:09 PM
How can a film score 24crore with 90% occupancy and only 21crore after opening at 85% and growing through the day?
Is rakesh roshan father Xmas again?
The occupancy reports are just a huge myth. Sure it opened big.
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December 22, 2015 at 2:12 PM
“How can a film score 24crore with 90% occupancy and only 21crore after opening at 85% and growing through the day?
Is rakesh roshan father Xmas again?”
Am talking about the 1st day whole opening. You can’t possibly be serious with percentages errors here. Ignore that and then you will understand the point which is it has not opened so bad like Jai Ho or other movies.
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December 22, 2015 at 2:15 PM
“what happened with Jai Ho? every Salman film before or after has opened big irrespective of director. What happened with this one all of a sudden? As for whether people are playing up the negativity or putting up comments cynically that’s a different debate. That’s not one on the facts of the film. Forget all the chatter. Whatever is happening with the film is unexpected for sure (I certainly didn’t expect this even in the worst case scenario).”
Jai Ho was simply too long in the making with multiple delays and very poor looking product besides downmarket leading lady and negative reputation of Sohali Khan. Also, the only Salman film which didn’t release either on Eid, Diwali or Christmas in years. It opened to 60 cr weekend on 4500 screens and wrapped up at 110 cr. On other hand, Dilwale opened to 65 cr weekend with 2600 screens.
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December 22, 2015 at 2:38 PM
I’m not sure what your argument really is Master. At one end you seem to argue it didn’t do well because of all kinds of factors from the clash to his comments. On the other hand you also keep suggesting that the opening is pretty good all things considered. Both can’t be true.
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December 22, 2015 at 2:19 PM
I think the comments had something to do with it but the main thing is SRK’s persona had been wearing thin for a while and this was the last straw on the camel’s back.
His arrogance, shenaninagans, the lack of humility, cozying upto media, all kinds of antics on stage shows, his politics has been rubbing the people the wrong way. Of all INdians from various parts of country that I know all seem to be apathetic to him. Kind of fed up.
I get a sense that Dilwale may not be that bad a film. Without the clash and without these general public’s sense of being fed up with SRK , it might have done quite well.
I feel sorry for him but if he doesn’t learn a lesson, he is going to sink very rapidly.
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December 22, 2015 at 2:34 PM
rajen1: what you said has been the general consensus all over and even NyKavi and others have made that point. Dilwale as a movie is not that bad but its the full on negativity in the public(outside of movies) which is the major reason. Yes, opening weekend was good that is coz of die hard fans but if general public won’t come then, the movie can’t collect more.
Even the person who hates SRK the most..
@PrakashJaaju
#Dilwale is not bad but #BajiraoMastani & public agitation usko khaa gaye.
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December 22, 2015 at 2:42 PM
I’ll repeat an older point. I too think it’s probably a one time watch. But many ‘not bad’ films flop. The idea that only terrible ones do is a myth. Much as if a film is utterly hated by the audience then you get an even worse result.
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December 22, 2015 at 10:44 AM
In this situation one has to make one excuse or the other. Of course if one follows this logic BM isn’t an issue at all! Then one can’t use competition as an excuse. But unless a film is banned in a massively important state like Gujarat (like Fanaa was.. and even if no one cared about some of these issues then when initials were calculated.. when some of us mentioned these things people used to either laugh at us or ignore them.. but then I could say the same for competition and trending and what not!) which has not only some very important centers but also a very major city that is among the top 3-4 grossing cities in the country (for Hindi films). As for these bans, limited or whatever, these aren’t the difference between let’s say 200 and wherever the film is going to end up. It’s safe to say that unless the film really stabilizes at some point it is on path to do not much better than Ra One, all things considered. Or at least a significant failure. The kind of gross where all these reasons go out the window. Because these are about marginal things one way or the other. And again some of the ban stuff is being exaggerated anyway.
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December 22, 2015 at 11:01 AM
Superstar Shah Rukh Khan today admitted that that his statements regarding ‘intolerance’ were misunderstood and had an adverse impact on the box-office performance of his latest release ‘Dilwale’ in some parts of India.
Shah Rukh received a lot of flak across the nation for his comments, with many urging viewers to boycott his upcoming movie ‘Dilwale’. SRK had maintained that the people demanding the ban or boycott were “opportunists”.
Now, that ‘Dilwale’ has released and the movie’s business in India has slowed down, SRK has said that collections have been affected because he was misunderstood. “I have been misunderstood many times. It upsets me that I haven’t been able to express my views in a better way. I apologise if my statements have hurt anyone,” he said.
“The film’s performance has been impacted in some parts of the country. But I can’t understand that why people are upset with something which aims at spreading happiness,” he added.
The actor also expressed his disappointment for misinterpretations of his views “I have received immense love from people of all religions. It deeply saddens me that despite being a true citizen of the country, I was misunderstood,” he said.
http://www.indiatvnews.com/entertainment/bollywood/shahrukh-khan-intolerance-statement-dilwale-collections-25922.html
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December 22, 2015 at 11:12 AM
yeah it’s unfortunate he’s jumping on to this excuse.. but such cynicism is par for the course for him.. Isn’t it easy to blame everything but the product?
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December 22, 2015 at 11:12 AM
I don’t like this line of defense that Shahrukh has taken for the non-performance of his film. It suggests a certain religion based consolidation of a fan-base, and I not only think that such is no the case but to suggest it is also a putting forth of a disturbing brand of politics. Not done.
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December 22, 2015 at 11:17 AM
agree completely.. this confirms the worst narratives in more ways than one. And people wonder why I dislike his politics offscreen more often than not. This is a classic exhibit. Yes everyone provides excuses for films failing but surely you shouldn’t use these sorts of excuses. The stakes are just too high. And isn’t this an insult to precisely the audience that has loved you for years. that they were so upset with your statements that they boycotted you en masse! Of course that doesn’t explain why the film even got 21 crores or whatever on day 1! Something many here found fine at the time! PK opened to 26 on day one without competition. So this is just grasping at straws. Whether one agreed with his original comments or not (and I didn’t have much of a problem with them even if I can never completely trust SRK on these issues) these are beyond the pale. In the vast liberal media circles of India he was totally defended for those remarks. It’s impossible to believe that the vast majority of his multiplex audience had a problem with them. Aamir got a much stronger reaction for his comments. So this whole stuff is just bull. Maybe on the margins some people were pissed off with him but that’s not why the film’s collections were affected. And do you know who’ll agree with his comments here? Precisely the hard right who’ll say ‘see what happens when you go against your country or the ‘majority’ who’s made you a star all these years’!
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December 22, 2015 at 11:21 AM
It’s called disillusioned and sour grapes. He’s losing his charm and as many crores he has the love of the people matters more. You can’t buy that with flying cars and rekindling old love stories.
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December 22, 2015 at 11:25 AM
If indeed he has said this, it is disgusting in its cynicism, and in the megalomania and narcissism it reveals (there can’t be an ordinary reason for an under-performer, there has to be an extraordinary reason). As some of us have been saying for years, he is simultaneously addicted to the “King Khan” trope as well as the victim-trope, and doesn’t seem to appreciate that the two don’t sit well together (the trope of victim, can, of course, play into the Muslim minority’s sense of grievance, but for SRK to try and piggy-back on this is deeply inauthentic, as GF might say “unearned”). I only hope that liberals in the media don’t jump on this bandwagon (as they are uncritically wont to do), because nothing discredits progressive politics more than this toxic combination of imbecility and cynicism.
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December 22, 2015 at 11:26 AM
PS — I had hoped for a happier comment to mark my return to this blog after a long absence (haven’t seen Dilwale and don’t intend to, but everyone I know who has seen it seems to have disliked it) but I guess that was too much to hope for 🙂
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December 22, 2015 at 11:32 AM
” I had hoped for a happier comment to mark my return to this blog after a long absence ”
I know this sort of SRk’s comment will bring back folks even from dead.. abzee, Qalandar etc. Good to see you guys back.
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December 22, 2015 at 11:15 AM
Let me tell you beforehand.. I don’t think this source is trustworthy.. so I would wait till the news comes out on credible sources. This appears to be mix of many articles put together as a new article.
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December 22, 2015 at 11:30 AM
If you read the article, he’s still talking about the protests and bans(which they have said other sources as well and even Rohit Shetty said) impact but the sources summarizes as Intolerance comment impacted Boxoffice.
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December 22, 2015 at 2:09 PM
This is double dis-ingenuity by SRK. First the entire intolerance nonsense, and now another disingenuous claim to mask the under performance.
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December 23, 2015 at 12:54 AM
This is a stupid statement by srk. The movie was not affected more than 3 crs due to the protests which it would have made up had it been good. More importantly he is playing into the hands of these right wingers who will think they actually affected the movie and wil continue this non sense in the future too
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December 22, 2015 at 11:01 AM
In terms of effect, however, Bajirao Mastani has the potential to do for Maratha ‘history’ what Mughal-e-Azam did for Mughal ‘history’.
There is the troubling aspect of religion and gender intersectionality in the film. Because she is half-Muslim, Mastani can be acceptable only as a courtesan in a royal Brahmanical household. She can be a sex object, but not a wife. She is given respectability only because of her character’s archetypal association with Radha, Lord Krishna’s beloved.
The film also obliquely casts a critical glance at the condition of a wife in the domestic sphere. The autumnal look of Bajirao’s mother who is permanently dressed in a white sari and has her head shaved reveals the subtext of the treatment of widows in the 18th century.
In one romantic moment in the film Bajirao says that Mastani’s name will remain an integral part of his name. Sanjay Leela Bhansali, a filmmaker and not a historian, has put a permanent seal on his words by making Bajirao Mastani.
http://www.rediff.com/movies/column/bajirao-mastani-the-grandeur-of-movie-manufactured-history/20151222.htm
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December 22, 2015 at 11:02 AM
“suddenly 1 day Indian audience has developed taste and they decided to not watch regular commercial Rohit Shetty-SRK-Kajol movie and hence its doing bad. ” No. Their tastes havent changed. They just decided to not watch regular commercial Rohit Shetty-SRK-Kajol movie that is fake from the word go and offers nothing that excites. That ias why it si doing bad. Period.
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December 22, 2015 at 11:26 AM
well said utkal and good points from satyam,
shetty is just excusing the failure of the film,its the concept which has failed and the surge from BM also contributed,everyone expected that dilwale will have initial burst then it will depend on the film how good it is,also BM was always an underdog when clashing against srk film unless it was sallu or amir khan in which case dilwale would not have made numbers what it did against BM,shetty should take it on the chin and face the failures as he has faced the hits and faced it….its the old trick in the book in every aspects,when you team loses the ref or umpire ruined it …same here the film failed and thats the basic of it…
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December 22, 2015 at 11:36 AM
I think SRK will overcome this anyways but I think RS should be worried with the next project is Ram Lakhan remake with Karan Johar. That can turn out to be disaster if there isn’t right cast and undue comparison with the original. He pulled off with Golmaal but Ram-Lakhan is still bigger hit and remembered till now. I saw some reactions during Hero remake.
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December 22, 2015 at 11:49 AM
it’s not about remakes as much. if you make a half enjoyable film you get the initial and no one holds the original against you. the cross-section that does is relatively small. On BB said this some days ago too but I think that’s his best film in this larger than life genre. Otherwise there’s ATB, a bit stagey but better than most of his other stuff. Singham was fine too but the politics was problematic here and this was in any case a remake.
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December 22, 2015 at 11:52 AM
srk needs to be careful as his next releases is 4 months away,fan & raees both look promising…one debacle will not hurt him but to be in contention with other two khans he will need a major break through in one of his releases,one blockbuster and he is right back in it..
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December 22, 2015 at 12:05 PM
The best thing out of this is that SRK’s most interesting movie – FAN- is coming up right after. Imagine Farah’s HNY or something similar was in place after this movie.. that would have been disastrous. Fan even though will not be huge grosser has the ”potential” to be best critic friendly movie and genuine audience liking movie in years!
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December 22, 2015 at 12:04 PM
First of all let me express my disappointment with many in the forum who acted no better than people like Taran or Komal who make their predictions like colouring by numbers: Rohit Shetty, Srk-Kajol, audience-friendly genre, so superhit. What crap! Please open your eyes. See what’s on offer. Then judge.
Let me just summarize some of the things I had said earlier about Dilwale.
1. The nostalgia for SRK-Kajol Jodi is limited only to a small segment of the audience. MNIK didn’t exactly set the screen on fire, did it? And that was quite some years back. Both of them added quite a few wrinkles and oodles of ennui in the meanwhile.
2. And what is this Gerua song? Who wants to see two middle-aged (actually one of them a little older than that) stars romance like twenty-somethings? Of course there are a few loonies. But I guess not enough to fill more than a few shows in theatres.
3. I knew Rohit Shetty was totally uninspired and just going through the motion when I saw the Manma Jaage song. It was as fake as Gerua. There was no youthful spirit, no chemistry, no fun. Is anyone even talking about the song? Or even Varun Dhawan or Kirti Sonan?
4. Rohit Shetty’s forte is a sense of absurd fun and a feeling of joi-de-vivre. I didnt find a single funny line in the trailer. Tell me why should I venture into the theatre?
5. And what’s all that Iceland-Photoshop crap! It made the film look fake from the word go. Just contrast that against Chennai Express. It was so earthy and rooted. Instead of Iceland it chose Chennai, Goa and Kerala. Bigger is not always better.
6. Look at the spirit of Chennai Express. Lungi Dance was a lark, with the opening words ‘Moochhon ko thoda round ghumake I Anna ke jaisa chashma lagake I Coconut me lassi milake
I Aa jaao sare mood banake’ it set the mood and got you into its groove. I have seen countless kids and adults perform the number on stage in social and corporate functions. Now ‘ Tukur Tukur’ what was that?
7. Actually Rohit Shetty lifted his game a few notches in Chennai Express. Takea song like ‘ One-Two-Three-Four’. The tendency in a masala film would be to use it as a sleazy or raunchy number like say Munnu Badnam Hui. But no. Shetty resists the temptation. He gives us whole some fun a-la Manmohan Desai. Priya Mani is not used as a sex symbol, but as a rambunctious power-keg of fun and frolic. Look at the words: “Ho aankh bhi, jaane kaahe I Phadke meri phadke meri baayi I Kundali me ho jaise ulti dasha ulti dasha aayi”. Fun stuff. I did not find anything remotely close in Dilwale.
8. And most importantly, Chennai Express had soul. Meenakshiamma gets into your heart. And Deepika in a Kerala white sari makes your heart skip like no designer clothes of Kajol can. And there is zillion times more romance in a Shahrukh carrying Deepika up the 300 steps ofa temple than SRK-Kajol parodying the DDLJ poses.
9. Basically the film started as a project and not as a script. And that’s never a good idea.
( Disclaimer: All this is based on the trailers and the songs. I haven’t seen the film and have no intention of seeing it.)
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December 22, 2015 at 12:14 PM
Well, Utkal sir.. you have extreme opinions but no issues at all. Just some corrections.
“1The nostalgia for SRK-Kajol Jodi is limited only to a small segment of the audience. MNIK didn’t exactly set the screen on fire, did it?”
True but MNIK is not a love story.. and SRK-Kajol doing a love story its been decades now. MNIK doesn’t count(ignoring that its an offbeat movie compared to KJo’s standards).
“6.Look at the spirit of Chennai Express. Lungi Dance was a lark, with the opening words ‘Moochhon ko thoda round ghumake I Anna ke jaisa chashma lagake I Coconut me lassi milake”
SRK shot this movie without even telling Rohit shetty or Vishal-Shekhar with Honey Singh. That was the whole issue between VS and Honey Singh and VS no longer with SRK.
“7. Actually Rohit Shetty lifted his game a few notches in Chennai Express. Takea song like ‘ One-Two-Three-Four’. The tendency in a masala film would be to use it as a sleazy or raunchy number like say Munnu Badnam Hui. But no. Shetty resists the temptation. He gives us whole some fun a-la Manmohan Desai. Priya Mani is not used as a sex symbol, but as a rambunctious power-keg of fun and frolic. Look at the words: “Ho aankh bhi, jaane kaahe I Phadke meri phadke meri baayi I Kundali me ho jaise ulti dasha ulti dasha aayi”. Fun stuff. I did not find anything remotely close in Dilwale.
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SRK reshot this song after that Delhi gangrape case. It might look silly but its actually true that song has been reshot and made family friendly and not an sexy item song.
“9.Basically the film started as a project and not as a script. And that’s never a good idea.”
Nope, this is incorrect. Kajol came last and she wasn’t in the options at any stage. Katrina was in talks. Also, Rohit Shetty mentioned, if we managed to get Kajol I’ll call it Dilwale if we dont’ get Kajol we’ll name it something else.
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December 22, 2015 at 12:20 PM
Even if it was planned with Katrina itw as still a project. I dont bother about how certain things happened while making the film. I am interested in what I see on screee, Chennai Express has soul, is earthy n down to earth and is crazy fun. Dilwale looks likea project….nevermind how it was actually made.
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December 22, 2015 at 12:24 PM
The final notice has now been posted on the Rhythm House website that the shop is closing down and the online business is going. It feels like reading an obituary notice as this old friend has been part of my bond with Indian cinema and the city of Mumbai, in particular this area of town where I risk my life as a determined pedestrian. I’ve been shopping at Rhythm House for 25 years, using it as a major resource for my research on Hindi cinema and getting to know its red-jacketed staff. My sadness is not purely personal as this also marks a shift for all of us who work on and in Mumbai, albeit one we knew was long coming as shopping practices change with the growth of malls and changes in film viewing practices and media consumption.
http://scroll.in/article/777029/why-the-closure-of-mumbais-iconic-rhythm-house-is-a-blow-to-scholars-of-the-city
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December 22, 2015 at 12:39 PM
Nice and of course poignant read..
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December 22, 2015 at 12:56 PM
This and the recent closure of Merwan, which opened again thanks to petitions and because there were no buyers, is really one of the many landmarks of the city’s history giving way to new. even the roads seem so unfamiliar! incidentally, my wife, whose office is in the vicinity, purchased an LP of Deewar’s dialogues as a reminder and souvenir purchase from the shop before it shuts.
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December 22, 2015 at 1:28 PM
appropriate… her choice..
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December 22, 2015 at 1:41 PM
Wow that’s the right purchase!
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December 22, 2015 at 1:40 PM
Very sad indeed — this was perhaps the last music store in Bombay, and during my five years in the city I visited many many times. I am glad you mention the staff — so knowledgeable!!!
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December 22, 2015 at 9:51 PM
Qalandar glad to see you after a long while 🙂 Yesterday i was thinking of posting a comment with respect to your take on this entire “Intolerant” debate and backlash SRK and Aamir have received and here you appeared and commented, what luck!! Still luckier if you and abzee2kin can present your take on the whole issue. Thanks in advance 🙂
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December 22, 2015 at 1:05 PM
40M Monday for Star Wars…looks like Avatars’ domestic record will get destroyed here.
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December 22, 2015 at 1:23 PM
my tickets are booked for BM tonight show,2040…hopefully while watching the film I digest my popcorn and not to get lost in maugle -aazam 2,
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December 22, 2015 at 1:45 PM
In the re-runs section I decided to put up a piece on MeA. Somewhat relevant with all the BM comparisons. I am generally a naysayer on the film but I try to point out some of its virtues here. I’ve also reintroduced something on Shetty, a Qalandar review on BB.
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December 22, 2015 at 2:27 PM
I watched MEA during a rerun and was so underwhelmed. Been planning to revisit to see if Incan appreciate it more.
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December 22, 2015 at 2:31 PM
The only thing I really enjoy here is Prithivraj Kapoor’s thundering (and stagey) performance. And I don’t like Dilip Kumar’s ‘sullen’ act here at all.
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December 22, 2015 at 2:35 PM
Dilip Kumar once famously mentioned that MEA is possibly the only movie he was hesitant to sign and regretted as he was not playing the leading role in the movie. The title role belonged to Prithviraj Kapoor!
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December 22, 2015 at 2:41 PM
he certainly had the lead role, the idea that he didn’t is a bit strange. Prithviraj has a pivotal role for sure, it’s not a supporting part but the film really revolves around Salim-Anarkali’s love story.
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December 22, 2015 at 2:45 PM
” Prithviraj has a pivotal role for sure, ”
Prithiviraj has TITLE role and that was big deal that time!
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December 22, 2015 at 2:49 PM
” but the film really revolves around Salim-Anarkali’s love story.”
Again.. incorrect. It starts with Akbar longing for his son.. praying for his son’s birth.. then son being born (granting 1 wish to servant girl).. then seeing his son becoming irresponsible.. sending him away to become worth successor and when he returns he falls in love with servant girl.. he again opposes that as a king, he cant’ do that.. and tries to kill Anarkali. But actually does the sacrifice(for the wish granted to the servant girl) and sends her away but still taking the blame infront of kingdom that he stopped and killed the servant girl. Its all about Akbar – Mughal – E -Azam.
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December 22, 2015 at 4:40 PM
I know all of that..
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December 22, 2015 at 5:00 PM
“I know all of that..”
Then, isn’t that the protagonist role? You also have the whole graph of story on Akbar besides naming the movie and also ending the movie with Akbar. They didn’t even care to show Salim’s reaction when Anarkali is taken. Besides, its just not me.. even Dilip Kumar feels he wasn’t the lead actor in the movie.
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December 22, 2015 at 2:37 PM
“And I don’t like Dilip Kumar’s ‘sullen’ act here at all.”
What about the confrontational scenes with Akbar? That alone is award worthy!
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December 22, 2015 at 2:39 PM
yes I like those but I think Prithviraj dominates him everywhere physically and with his voice.
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December 22, 2015 at 2:54 PM
BM jumps by 11% in Kanpur. And congrats to satyam ans srkians – Dilwale didnt fall atall in kanpur.
37m37 minutes ago
Girish Johar @girishjohar
Tuesday Kanpur #Dilwale 6.31lacs
#BajiraoMastani 5.19lacs aproxs
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December 22, 2015 at 2:58 PM
“And congrats to satyam ans srkians ”
Since you gave this good news to Satyam.. you will get a reward and the reward is you won’t get banned today! 😀
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December 22, 2015 at 4:41 PM
It would have been worthwhile to have Dilwale work in a big way just to be able to escape Raghav;s hourly updates!
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December 22, 2015 at 10:12 PM
Dont worry, srkians. Here is update on Gurgaon and cheer that dilwale fell only by 13.5% on tuesday, didnt crash 🙂
And BM fell only by 0.075% -> which is negligible.
Girish Johar @girishjohar 13m13 minutes ago
Tuesday Gurgaon #Dilwale 8.62lacs #BajiraoMastani 18.37lacs aproxs
Girish Johar @girishjohar 1d1 day ago
Monday Gurgaon #Dilwale 9.92lacs #BajiraoMastani 18.51lacs aproxs …. What a turn around…almost double 👏👏👏👍
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December 22, 2015 at 4:05 PM
with all the praise and positive words on BM…will have to check it out. Everything about BM was a turn off for me…the director…the lead actors. But I love a good historical film…so will have to watch this one.
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December 22, 2015 at 4:44 PM
yeah I must say that it’s hard to make it to the theater for a Bhansali film.. still I might have been somewhat tempted here after the reviews but for Ranveer Singh. I could still watch it as soon as I clear my other backlog first or if another chance arises. Still haven’t seen Star Wars! also have to check out the Tarantino (will be out soon). A few others similarly. Will say though that I’d still be surprised if I really liked BM.
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December 22, 2015 at 2:39 PM
@GirishJohar
Tuesday Kanpur #Dilwale 6.31 lacs
Monday Kanpur #Dilwale 6.3 lacs
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December 22, 2015 at 3:19 PM
Nothing to apologise about: SRK
Bollywood superstar Shahrukh Khan on Tuesday maintained that he had not said anything which merited an apology, but regretted that the box office collection of his film “Dilwale” was adversely affected due to protests by those who “misinterpreted” and “misconstrued” his comments on intolerance in the country.
“I have not said anything that I should apologise (for). I will fall in my own eyes if I do that,” Shahrukh said at a media meet to promote his latest film “Dilwale”.
Agonised over protests against the film, Shahrukh said it made him sad when his work did not reach the people as that was the only way he could return the people’s “love” for him, and appealed to his fans to watch and enjoy the movie.
Shahrukh said his comments on the intolerance issue was not represented properly.
“At some point of time, I do regret people could not understand what I said. It was not represented properly. If anybody feels bad about it, I regret it completely.
“I just want to wish that all the people who wish to see the film on their own, please go out and see it. Don’t get misled by people who perhaps misconstrued what I am saying, so I regret that this has happened. I feel extremely sad,” Shahrukh said.
“I apologise if somebody got disturbed, please go out and enjoy the film because it’s not me, there are thousands who have made it with a lot of love.”
“(It’s) too hard for me to understand why something that we make for your happiness would somehow turn into something that becomes controversial or tainted.”
Angered by Shahrukh’s statement on ‘religious intolerance’, Bajrang Dal activists opposed the film’s screening in Araria and Patna districts of Bihar. Protests also took place in Ghaziabad, Varanasi, Jabalpur and many places in Rajasthan.
The 50-year-old actor was clad in a black suit, and was accompanied by his “Dilwale” co-star Kajol, who was wearing a black saree.
Shahrukh said the ‘intolerance’ controversy has hit box-office collections of the movie in some parts of the country.
“I can’t deny the fact that I’ve been reading messages on Whatsapp. I’ve been reading messages on social media, and even on ground that there has been activity all over the country, where the film has been stopped, and not allowed.
“Yes, box office collections have been hit, I don’t know exactly the places. But they have been,” he said.
“I have been an actor for 25 years in this country. I would like to say I received love from every corner of the country, in spite of religion, region, caste, creed, gender.
“And the only way I can return the love is through my work. And I try my best to do that. I succeed some times, and sometimes I fail, but I try my best to do that. So it saddens me when any of my work can’t reach the people, because I do work two or three times a year. It is saddening.”
There have been images of the superstar in the social media which Shahrukh found offensive. He said he has even been linked with people he doesn’t have any links with.
“A lot of the things I say are misconstrued perhaps, misrepresented, perhaps misinterpreted sometimes. And I am not someone who can sit here and say… this amazing amount of love from my countrymen and women… I have any issue with it in terms of tolerance and intolerance. So I don’t.
“But of course like the other day, I was sitting in and somebody put a tweet which does not belong to me. And I can’t clarify,” he added.
“I see a news which say I am related to an X person who is entirely against my country but that’s not true. I have no logistic way to explain all this, at my stage and age. I am a representative of my own country and I am thankful to everybody, but I can’t keep explaining that.”
http://www.business-standard.com/article/news-ians/won-t-apologise-for-comment-but-regret-dilwale-collection-hit-srk-115122201206_1.html
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December 22, 2015 at 4:02 PM
OK…this is a new low for SRK. The film was literally a crap fest…no two ways about it…that is the MAIN factor/reason why the film isn’t doing so well. When a Rohit Shetty tries to Karan Joharize his films…the product results in the filthiest crap known to man kind.
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December 22, 2015 at 4:41 PM
Dilwale may not be a great film, but it is also true that shows have been disrupted in many parts of the country including Bangalore. This boycott call is extremely wrong, unfair, unethical, mean. I have seen plenty of useless people on social media calling for a boycott of SRK’s Dilwale this year and Aamir’s next. What a shameful face of supposedly tolerant India. And why? Because these actors admitted when asked , that yes, there is increasing intolerance. A lot of ordinary people have said it privately — that tolerant India now co-exists with an increasingly intolerant India. And all those who spoke before SRK- Aamir — no they are not all politically manipulated statements — these people, the economists, writers, scientists, directors — they will not be boycotted. But these two stars with over two decades of films to their credit — they are being torched.
I have come across an FB post that shows empty seats in a PVR Bangalore complex, and speaks about Khan actors being taught a lesson. Almost every comment that follows sees the mob cheering and indulging in virtual lynching. Wow, tolerant India.
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December 22, 2015 at 4:54 PM
I anticipate more protest against Dangal than Dilwale coz of the statement but the only silver lining for Dangal is that there is lot of time and people may forget by then and also that its more social drama and for women benefit subject compared to masala Dilwale which folks will empathize. But I don’t think SRK is very soft target for such controversies more than Aamir and Salman Khan.
So, first SRK’s statement is misconstrued and say like how dare he say intolerant to India.. and secondly they protest and start this #boycottdilwale trend and when someone says it impacted the movie release.. then its like.. how dare he say this as well… maybe just shut up and live scared of these goons and such folks.
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December 22, 2015 at 4:56 PM
But I also* think SRK is very soft target …
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December 22, 2015 at 5:13 PM
I don’t disagree with anything you’ve said this may be one of the factors but again the main factor remains that the product is bad. PK had received notable negativity after its release from all sides yet because the product was good it sustained through all the crap thrown at it from everywhere. good product wins every time. For SRK to admit that BO performance “has been hit” is him making the ultimate excuse here.
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December 22, 2015 at 5:18 PM
Yeah.. just like blind fans.. bringing PK.. the biggest hit of Indian cinema for every discussion and then comparing with every film to prove a point. Its hilarious. You need to see world beyond that. SRK is talking about protests over the 1st weekend.. was it smooth release? No. Should he hide that fact and say it was a smooth release? Well, why should he?
Calling D as “filthiest crap known to man kind” will not help your point any better and then bringing PK. Wait.. you also have your ID as “Aamirsfan”. Still, you really want folks to take your opinion seriously? Lol.
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December 22, 2015 at 5:30 PM
nah man…not a “blind fan” here. If you follow any of my comments…I’m critical on any film that is bad…including D3 (an Aamir Khan starrer). I remember someone saying if I’m even a real Aamir Khan fan when I made that comment…and now you’re accusing me of blind fandom. lol. This is just SRK trying to play victim here and its annoying to be honest.
And yes Dilwale is pretty filthy…if you are trying to insinuate if that comment came from an hidden agenda…then you are wrong. There is no hidden agenda here…never has been. You don’t see me here “dragging down” SRK at every chance…I had to say something here on these comments because its becoming clear where he is trying to go with this narrative.
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December 22, 2015 at 5:33 PM
“I had to say something here on these comments because its becoming clear where he is trying to go with this narrative”
you HAD to say something? Why? Supreme court hai kya?
Find me 1 more person like you who will calling D as “filthiest crap known to man kind” then we can talk fairly.
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December 22, 2015 at 5:47 PM
The reality is if and when some of the bans are lifted one should see an uptick in collections. If not clearly weak WOM is the reason behind declining collections and poor trends. If the reason for the struggle till now is this, the film should catch up in following days….so let’s see if that plays out. If not we can safely assume audience did not warm to film?
The ban point is moot to an extent, business should skyrocket as all those who missed out can turn up now or later.
If not we get back to reality of a weak product.
Imagine iPhone releases a new version and shops are closed, ppl who wanted to buy will turn up later for sure.
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December 22, 2015 at 5:59 PM
Sometimes banning has opposite effect. Sympathisers arrive and media supports the banned. I see none of that here or even ardent SRK fans crying at cinemas. The hard-core fans or media haven’t cared here probably cos they know they’d be backing the wrong horse.
There are probably more ppl out there wanting a refund than wanting to see the film.
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December 22, 2015 at 6:33 PM
Fanaa to was banned.
http://www.international.ucla.edu/asia/article/47469
But the critical differences was fanaa had this narrative
‘But the ban has come as a boon to pirate-VCD sellers who say they are hard pressed to cope with demand for the film.’
In other words fans who want to see it find ways or protest quietly.
I simply see none of this for Dilwale, its probably explained by the muted response to the film.
I am not at all condoning the ban , but merely explaining the demand for D is not huge. Let’s see the screen counts and collections in week two.
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December 22, 2015 at 7:32 PM
part of my comment earlier today:
[But unless a film is banned in a massively important state like Gujarat (like Fanaa was.. and even if no one cared about some of these issues then when initials were calculated.. when some of us mentioned these things people used to either laugh at us or ignore them.. but then I could say the same for competition and trending and what not!) which has not only some very important centers but also a very major city that is among the top 3-4 grossing cities in the country (for Hindi films). As for these bans, limited or whatever, these aren’t the difference between let’s say 200 and wherever the film is going to end up. It’s safe to say that unless the film really stabilizes at some point it is on path to do not much better than Ra One, all things considered. Or at least a significant failure. The kind of gross where all these reasons go out the window. Because these are about marginal things one way or the other. And again some of the ban stuff is being exaggerated anyway.]
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December 22, 2015 at 5:45 PM
again taking that comment and disregarding my whole point is just idiotic. i can care less if you don’t take me seriously. I don’t have anything to prove to you…especially if you haven’t been paying attention to my earlier comments. I have found myself defending SRK and his achievements many times here in the past. This has nothing to do with ‘fandom’.
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December 22, 2015 at 6:30 PM
exactly right JS. But I guess as you say lets see how it all plays out.
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December 22, 2015 at 8:31 PM
I think Aamirsfan criticised D3 so much that I fought and reacted like a true fan!
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December 22, 2015 at 10:37 PM
“The reality is if and when some of the bans are lifted one should see an uptick in collections. If not clearly weak WOM is the reason behind declining collections and poor trends. ”
Man, looks like folks are just making this complicated for no reason. Or maybe just ignoring the fact. What was the (official) ban? When was it lifted? What you talking about?
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December 22, 2015 at 10:44 PM
“Imagine iPhone releases a new version and shops are closed, ppl who wanted to buy will turn up later for sure.”
Again, very wrong example. If Iphone releases and shops are being attacked on 1st day, I will not return to the shop next day hoping it won’t be attacked today, Iphone is not important for my living. If the shop is closed, yes I will be back.. but if there were protests and violence, I will not next day. You don’t seem to get this basic point.
No one will take kids and all and risk them for a movie.. its not that important in daily life. Once you start the protests and stop movies in between shows, it just discourages families and all. How can you calculate that? So, you expect, they will come back next day since they got booted out mid-way from the movie on 1st day? Lol.
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December 22, 2015 at 11:03 PM
“I think Aamirsfan criticised D3 so much that I fought and reacted like a true fan!”
Sanjana, you are true fan and sometimes its fine to be one! 🙂
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December 22, 2015 at 5:58 PM
PK too got caught in the Ban- brigade crossfire, but it happened more and more a few days after film’s release. Have read that PK collections did get affected to an extent.
It’s not right this sort of blackmailing and arm twisting by goons with an agenda. And the government does nothing to stop such activities.
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December 22, 2015 at 8:58 PM
Komal Nahta was right, BM > dilwale in US/Canada on Sunday.
But, Srk fans started abusing and accussing Nahta, since then he hasnt post a single tweet. Poor Nahta. 😦
Srkians, see yourself , isnt BM ($617,943 ) > dilwale ($602,175)
BM updated this –
DILWALE
UTV Communications
– $593,932
+444.3% / $2,216
$703,052 / 2 $723,967
+21.9% / $2,701
$1,427,019 / 3 $602,175
-16.8% / $2,247
$2,029,194 / 4
N/A
– BAJIRAO MASTANI
Eros
– $451,914
— / $1,487
$451,914 / 1 $671,180
+48.5% / $2,208
$1,123,094 / 2 $617,943
-7.9% / $2,033
$1,741,037 / 3
N/A
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/daily/chart/
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December 22, 2015 at 9:28 PM
Was there any BAN in usa also ?
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December 22, 2015 at 10:46 PM
Master: “ But MNIK was not a love story.” Thank God for small mercies! SRK and Kajol at this stage of their career would be much more interesting to watch in a dramatic story where they had to display their histrionics rather than cavort and simper among hills like simpering teenagers. ( Something like Aamir and Kajol in Fanaa.) Romance requires young people. Unless it is a different kind of romance like Bridges of Madison County where the woman plays her age. You cannot have Salman romance Madhuri today because they were a hit Jodi in HAHK and Saajan and expect the audience to be excited. Of course an older hero can romance a young heroine, that would work. Rajnikant romances Ash in Robot. Now he is romancing Amy Jackson in Robot 2. That would work. But imagine trying to bring Rajnikant and Sridevi together to romance among Machhu Pichhu because they were a hit Jodi once! Aishwarya looks svelte and fetching as ever. But she does Jazbaa and Serbjeet, and not Shohabbatein!
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December 22, 2015 at 10:50 PM
“Thank God for small mercies! SRK and Kajol at this stage of their career would be much more interesting to watch in a dramatic story where they had to display their histrionics rather than cavort and simper among hills like simpering teenagers.”
Utkal Sir.. please watch the movie. SRK and Kajol kept saying this is very close to their age in the movie. There is 15 years old gap and that flashback portion is about 30 mins including Gerau song. That’s part of the story.. College life was shown 5 mins in Mohabbatein and 1 hour in KKHH. You are wasting your energy for the flashback portion. Later on, the story is not romantic but more of drama.
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December 22, 2015 at 10:54 PM
“Something like Aamir and Kajol in Fanaa.”
Good you reminded Fanaa. Kajol making her comeback 5 years after K3G did Fanaa and she played college student in 1st half of the movie. Was it appropriate? Lol. The 2nd half is more appropirate with having a kid and more of drama. Similarly.. there’s nothing teenage romance in Dilwale, far from it. Infact it has one of the most unique rivalry displayed in Hindi films(don’t want to put spoilers here) and the reaction by leading lady.
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December 22, 2015 at 10:53 PM
LS: I dont think how a call for boycott is unfair. If the film is released and there is no violence involved then it is a perfectly democratic way of expressing your opinion for or against something. In fcat I like this way. People gave call to boycott PK. Faor enough. But people made their own choice. They will do so for Dangal. The government has to ensure that there is no violence and no coercion not to exhibita film. That’s all. Call to individuals to boycott a film is perfectly legit. I think that is healthy too.
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December 22, 2015 at 11:00 PM
“I dont think how a call for boycott is unfair.”
So, it doesn’t matter the ‘reason’ for the boycott. If you keep misconstruing the original statement and spreading lies and asking folks to boycott, is that fair? Seems in your world.
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December 23, 2015 at 12:04 AM
Peaceful calls to boycott movies is entirely democratic. Entire hollywood (led by their paymasters) kept trying to dissuade public from watching “The Passion of Christ”, yet that movie was a runaway blockbuster. It had found its audience. Its another matter that Mel Gibson has been paying for his insolence to this day.
Everyone has a right to express opinion, so there is nothing wrong if people are peacefully expressing their opinion via social media, without resorting to violence. They are not asking for someone to physically harm, just asking for people to stay away from a movie. It is upto the recepient of the message to decide whether to stay away or not.
And IMHO, it is a mark of Tolerant India that still went ahead to see an Uncle-Aunty romance and catapulted Dilwaale towards at least 100crs in collections. How can SRK even call anyone intolerant after that!?! Just day before yesterday, they were in BigBoss trying to promote, and doing the steps on Gerua, and they looked OLD!! Kajol also had packed her pounds back and was looking awful. So, do you expect an interested party to go and watch the movie after seeing Uncle-Aunty cavort on BigBoss? All this nostalgia is being manufactured, and is really only working on his core fanbase.
Now he is making matters worse by labelling those who stayed away as intolerant. Are the people of India born to just go watch whatever crap is dished out by SRK?
The first weekend gets booked en masse by all the hype, and kudos to SRK’s marketing for having drawn people in. After that it was based on the merits of the movie. BM is clearly the superior product, and ergo is doing better after the initial hype of Dilwaale had died down.
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December 23, 2015 at 12:07 AM
I think Master feels like I do. Utkal — it’s all seemingly legit, but actually this whole boycott an actor business is extremely mischievous and unfair IMO. SRK and Aamir get affected by their endorsement of the increased intolerance debate, because their films are actually ‘products’ that need to be sold in a particular way — distributors, exhibitors, film going audience, all involved in a very public deal. When theatres showing PK or Dilwale are attacked by a goon squad ( and with tv cameras covering their moves, they do a thorough job of damaging theatre property)– then exhibitors are reluctant to show the film, families are reluctant to watch the film in a theatre. Thus, a film does not get its intended collections. People will be happy enough to watch the film on a pirated DVD, or wait for a few months and watch the film when it is shown on tv. How fair and democratic is this sort of protest when a blackmailing goon squad has managed to make a dent in the expected collections of a film? Film production needs to be commercially viable. If the film is good people will come and watch — but the atmosphere should be conducive to a film outing at the local theatre. What happens when a band of thugs stands outside the theatre shouting obscenities, burning posters, breaking glass while a cud- chewing policeman watches indolently? Families and couples who have come to watch the film simply move away to a less troublesome spot.
Agree that public figures need to be circumspect while pronouncing their views on contentious topics — but whatever happened to minor matters like freedom of expression, thought, emotion. We sit at home and talk of similar matters– how a section of India is going on a rampage while tolerant ol’ India continues as before. Governors and Sadhvis and CMs talk in the most irresponsible manner. The news media gets to write about them but these worthies go on unhindered. On Twitter too a lot of loose talk happens….and they get away with it. But when two popular actors are asked and they give a frank though politically unwise opinion— all hell breaks lose. Toxic Twitter and to a lesser extent Facebook are perfect examples of how social media manipulates public opinion. Whatsapp is in its own league. Since the past month, supposedly educated Indians have been urging family and friends not to watch the films of supposed deshdrohis like the two Khan actors. Can this sort of thing be justified?
After Dari lynching, Khan lynching at work on the net. Not fair at all.
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December 23, 2015 at 12:30 AM
As it is peaceful calls for bandh immediately translates into violent protests.
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December 23, 2015 at 12:20 AM
“NyKavi:
– How can SRK even call anyone intolerant after that!?
– Now he is making matters worse by labelling those who stayed away as intolerant”
What’s the use of all this pseudo intelligent discussions when you are easily twisting SRK’s words.. what else is expected from goons and protestors now? So, SRK is calling who didn’t watch Dilwale as Intolerant? Can you be serious henceforth?
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December 23, 2015 at 2:57 AM
SRK is the one who talked about Intolerance. Now he says that his words were misinterpreted! That is really rich. Both SRK and AK jumped on this tolerance bandwagon, fully expecting that there would be no blowback, but are crying foul now when people are protesting peacefully. They both need to understand that they can have fans of different political leanings. By siding with one political group, they alienate themselves from the other.
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December 23, 2015 at 9:49 AM
“but are crying foul now when people are protesting peacefully”
Peacefully? Few goons protesting against cinemas to remove Dilwale screenings is peaceful protests? Which world are you from?
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December 22, 2015 at 11:02 PM
Rajasthan – BM jumps by 10%, Dilwale fell by 2%
Punjab – BM fell by 17.6%, Dilwale fell by 24%
KRK @kamaalrkhan 15m15 minutes ago
5th Day- Rajasthan #Dilwale 35lacs #BajiraoMastani 55lacs Punjab- #Dilwale 57Lacs, #BajiraoMastani 70Lacs.
KRK BOX OFFICE @KRKBoxOffice Dec 21
Monday- Rajasthan #Dilwale 36Lakhs, #BajiraoMastani 50Lakhs, Punjab-#Dilwale 75lakhs. #BajiraoMastani 85Lakhs.
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December 22, 2015 at 11:57 PM
Dilwale was steady at the box office on Tuesday, most centres have witnessed drops in the range of 5 – 15%. A select few centres that we tracked were about the same as Monday. As per estimates, the film has collected somewhere around 8.5 – 9 crore on Tuesday.
Bajirao Mastani was steadier, there were some centres that showed surprising growth on Tuesday and others were rock steady showing hardly any drop. The film is likely to collect around Rs 9.5 – 10 crore on Tuesday.
Dilwale Bajirao Mastani Difference
Day 1 (Friday) 21 12.81 8.19
Day 2 (Saturday) 20.09 15.52 4.57
Day 3 (Sunday) 24 18.45 5.55
Day 4 (Monday) 10.09 10.25 -0.16
Day 5 (Tuesday) 8.75 9.75 -1
Total Collections 83.93 crore 66.78 crore 17.15
http://www.indicine.com/movies/bollywood/dilwale-bajirao-mastani-5th-day-box-office-collections/
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December 23, 2015 at 12:35 AM
Dilwale First Tuesday Business
Wednesday 23 December 2015 11.00 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
Dilwale dropped 13% on Tuesday with multiplexes in big cities having noticeable falls with the best holds coming in Nizam / Andhra and East India. The business of Dilwale over the five days is as follows.
Friday – 20,85,00,000
Saturday – 19,50,00,000
Sunday – 23,00,00,000
Monday – 9,50,00,000
Tuesday – 8,25,00,000 apprx
TOTAL – 81,10,00,000
The first week business of the film will be in the 94-95 crore nett range. The film consumed less business on the weekend than it could have due to the clash so the weekday trend should have been good but it as very average here.
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December 23, 2015 at 12:36 AM
Bajirao Mastani First Tuesday Business
Wednesday 23 December 2015 11.00 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
Bajirao Mastani was rock steady on Tuesday with just a 5% drop after a very strong Monday. The business of Bajirao Mastaani over the first five days is as follows.
Friday – 12,25,00,000
Saturday – 15,00,00,00
Sunday – 17,75,00,000
Monday – 10,00,00,000
Tuesday – 9,50,00,000 apprx
TOTAL – 64,50,00,000
The first week of the film should be around 80 crore nett but with this solid Tuesday business it will be the second week where the film will put up a very good total. The film ia being lead by Mumbai circuit followed by South which is now also putting up very good numbers. East India is weakest though is holding well at low levels.
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December 23, 2015 at 12:36 AM
Dilwale First Tuesday Business
Wednesday 23 December 2015 11.00 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
Dilwale dropped 13% on Tuesday with multiplexes in big cities having noticeable falls with the best holds coming in Nizam / Andhra and East India. The business of Dilwale over the five days is as follows.
Friday – 20,85,00,000
Saturday – 19,50,00,000
Sunday – 23,00,00,000
Monday – 9,50,00,000
Tuesday – 8,25,00,000
TOTAL – 81,10,00,000
The first week business of the film will be in the 94-95 crore nett range. The film consumed less business on the weekend than it could have due to the clash so the weekday trend should have been good but it as very average here.
http://www.boxofficeindia.com/art_detail.php?articalid=1673#.VnowSxUrLIU
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December 23, 2015 at 12:37 AM
Bajirao Mastani First Tuesday Business
Wednesday 23 December 2015 11.00 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
Bajirao Mastani was rock steady on Tuesday with just a 5% drop after a very strong Monday. The business of Bajirao Mastaani over the first five days is as follows.
Friday – 12,25,00,000
Saturday – 15,00,00,00
Sunday – 17,75,00,000
Monday – 10,00,00,000
Tuesday 9,50,00,000
TOTAL – 64,50,00,000
The first week of the film should be around 80 crore nett but with this solid Tuesday business it will be the second week where the film will put up a very good total. The film ia being lead by Mumbai circuit followed by South which is now also putting up very good numbers. East India is weakest though is holding well at low levels.
http://www.boxofficeindia.com/art_detail.php?articalid=1674#.Vnox5BUrLIU
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December 23, 2015 at 1:41 AM
LS: When theatres showing PK or Dilwale are attacked by a goon squad ( and with tv cameras covering their moves, they do a thorough job of damaging theatre property)– That is when the government has to act sternly and punish the culprits. People like Aair and SRK have enough platforms to air their views and convince the people that they are right. If they cant, well, they have to accept the consequences. Fredom of Expression cannot be a one-way street available only to the elite. It is this attitude which gives liberals a bad name. If you are for fredom of expression and fredom to protest, you have to back anyone who wants to express or protest peacefully, even if you dont agree with their viewpoint.
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December 23, 2015 at 2:28 AM
Totally agree Utkal.
LS: “After Dari lynching, Khan lynching at work on the net. Not fair at all”
Labeling peaceful online protest as “Online Dadri style lynching” is what is really unfair. As pointed by Utkal, it is this attitude which gives liberals a bad name. If it were left to liberals, they would condescendingly muzzle all peaceful opposition.
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December 23, 2015 at 2:11 AM
We have a tendency to make someone very big and then bring him or her down.
SRK and Aamir have no fathers to firefight like Salman has.
Both should be careful in future.
Ab tera kya hoga Dangal?
Relatively SRK is receiving mild protests. In Aamir’s case, it wil be unimaginable unless some miracle happens.
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December 23, 2015 at 8:07 AM
Trust aamir, he will have satyme vijayte show next year where he will cater to the audience and get a good image in before dangal releases. aamir is a smart man, he knows how to manipulate things.
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December 23, 2015 at 9:30 AM
Wether Aamir has another Satyamev Jayate show or not — and I am somehow doubtful of that — what wrong has he done? Both SRK and Aamir agreed that there was some increased intolerance, repeated what even India’s premier economist indicated…and Aamir added his own bit about private apprehensions. You can argue the point, but this sort of sustained net campaign, still on, it makes me sick. Just read the comments of netizens on Indian Express fb page and website, in response to a news item where SRK has spoken sadly about this sort of campaign against his film and how he feels that it has affected the film. People are indulging in what I would call net lynching ( and somebody here pulled me up for this usage). These guys have been in the industry for over two decades, entertained us, done plenty of charity with their earnings….and to face this level of hate? Aren’t there worse villains out there?
And why talk of some sort of manipulation by Aamir? Any action can be read charitably as genuine — or as manipulation. What sort of action then is Being Human, playing Ram- Hanuman Bhakt in films, playing kite with the PM …the actor concerned has his fans here who may get offended, but the truth is he too ‘manipulated’ his image makeover, to use such words…😐
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December 23, 2015 at 3:11 AM
The film hasn’t been liked enough by the audience and the writing is on the wall. As simple as that. RS and SRK are coming out with excuses.
Surely they aren’t going to come out and accept that the movie is being rejected.
Having watched Dilwale, what I can say is that the movie is all plastic. SRK-Kajol, their make-up and appearance, their love story and the action scenes.. everything is so plastic in the movie. Shallow and fake. It is only getting what it deserves.
On the other hand, BM’s trending suggests that it is going to profit from the 3 open weeks. Can see the dark horse emerging as the winner here.
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December 23, 2015 at 4:04 AM
The backlash to SRK’s comment did affect the movie. Actually, there are two dimensions to it, one is protest and show cancellation which may have resulted in a loss of couple of crores. The another one and perhaps the bigger one is, many people may have not even considered watching SRK movie after his comment. I am not sure to what extent this has impacted the outcome but I know many who have skipped this movie because of this reason. I also found nothing wrong in this way of peaceful protesting. If SRK’s comments have been twisted to spread rumors, then onus is on him to clarify not on those who are protesting his stand by boycotting his movie.
Having said that, a stronger product could have easily overcome this effect.
Before release, I was of the opinion that even if Dilwale had bad wom and BM good, still Dilwale would end as bigger grosser. Guess, this is not going to happen now seeing how the movies are faring on weekdays.
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December 23, 2015 at 4:07 AM
The biggest issue is WOM other things are minor effects. A good film like you say would overcome, the question one needs to ask is how is it performing in areas where there were no bans or cancellations. I’d be shocked if it was holding well there.
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December 23, 2015 at 6:43 AM
Interestingly D has gone ahead of BM on Tuesday by 2 lacks. In the morning red chillies have given 9.42cr as the Tuesday number. Few hours back BM has given 9.4 cr as the collection. Their drop is larger as to what general trade was saying. Star wars will take some screens of both the movies. Though next weekend onwards BM will be ahead am still not sure if it will sail into safe zone. There is still some work to be done for both movies. The disadvantage for D is that though it will be fine economic wise perception wise it will always be a disappointment
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December 23, 2015 at 8:36 AM
Girish Johar (@girishjohar) 3 hours ago
Tuesday BO #BajiraoMastani collects 9.25crs aprox…till date cnboc 64.5crs aprox – Hindi
Girish Johar (@girishjohar) 3 hours ago
Tuesday BO, #Dilwale collects 8.35crs aprox ….total cnboc 81.25crs aprox
BM is also ahead as per BOI , and BM had a very strong hold on monday compared to Dilwale didn’t drop more than 20% from friday so how could it have a bigger drop than Diwale on Tue ? Offcourse one can believe anything they want but its quite clear what Redchilles are trying to do here .
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December 23, 2015 at 7:34 AM
watched bajirao mastani last night,will not say much as few people here has not seen the movie,
ranveer singh….outstanding performace
deepika….excellent
priyanka chopra…..” wow ” as kashibai she steels the show
raza murad and aditya panchol were there for few moments but were ok.
first 20 minutes its gone so fast that everything about the film is felt,
then there is drag as if its in slow motion..
overall I would rate this film as 2.5*, it was not awesome but direction and acting wise everone did their job and hence the film will succeed….personally I think if this had solo release it would have done same…on the other hand dilwale on a solo release it would have minted money but clashing has done more damage to dilwale then BM
2.5*
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December 23, 2015 at 7:58 AM
So it’s not Moghul E Azam like some are saying here?
Another winner from this movie is Aditya Chopra, he has Ranveer Singh in his next film. Not sure if ranveer has another movie in between but if next up is befikre, than it will help that movie a lot.
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December 23, 2015 at 8:21 AM
maugle e azaam will be a uniqe,every songs,ever shots were just brilliant,BM is nowhere near….the film just does not match the 60s blockbuster…
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December 23, 2015 at 8:56 AM
None of the film of today matches the films of past.
Same for songs too, I’ll take Nadeem Shravan songs anyday over what’s being dished out right now. Eventhou what NS did was not anything great but at least you can listen to those songs over and over again.
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December 23, 2015 at 9:10 AM
yes,
todays song heard today gone tomorrow,ashqi 1990,1942 a love story,sung by kumar shanu still rocks,even earlier of kishore da,or rafi sahab,everything were memorised instantly
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December 23, 2015 at 9:14 AM
Agree. The songs nowadays are totally forgettable. The yesteryear music directors gave even flop films memorable, melodious music.
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December 23, 2015 at 8:04 AM
After the initial euphoria, slowly truth will come out about numbers and appreciation. This weekend will throw some light as to how things are going for both the films.
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December 23, 2015 at 8:08 AM
What euphoria?
Numbers are there to see.
As per BOI, Dilwale is behind BM on Tuesday and the trend will continue.
Some are trying to save face but truth is very clear. Stop clutching at straws.
And, move on.
BM -safe
Dilwale-dud
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December 23, 2015 at 8:11 AM
I’m thinking in terms of when OUATIM 2 released 5 days after CE, it did good business first couple days than tanked very quickly. But here, Dilwale has collected more than BM 4 out of the 5 days yet it’s made out to be as if BM is beating up on Dilwale badly daily.
And how does a movie stays steady Monday and than again on Tuesday if it’s rejected?
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December 23, 2015 at 9:34 AM
But that’s apples and oranges. even if there was a ‘clash’ these are not comparable films. A film like BM will never outpace a film like Dilwale even when the former does well. It is only when the latter slips enough that this will happen. Put differently with these reviews most films in normal commercial genres would get to double the gross or at least one very significant higher than BM. The Tanu sequel did 140 or 150. Even as a solo that would be quite an achievement for BM. This is a point some of us have stressed for years. Genre matters. Now as for saying BM is doing better that’s a different argument. Even when Dilwale was ahead for 4 days or whatever it was underperforming and/or not growing whereas BM was going from strength to strength. Piku at 80 crores was a massive success because of the genre. Now it could have released with Jai Ho and maybe this would have outpaced it. But that wouldn’t prove anything! For Dilwale 250 was a real possibility. I never believed the 300 thing because Shetty’s movies don’t trend too well. For Bhansali meanwhile 120 was the best he could hope for. Maybe 20-30 more if it’s a real dream deal with extraordinary WOM. Let’s see how much this does. But if we look at such an ideal situation for him then Dilwale could have gone higher too (say Shetty really got a more substantial script). Either way there’s a huge bit separating the films. That BM could get ahead of Dilwale by the 5th day is actually pretty remarkable given all this. specially without a true-blue elite star.
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December 23, 2015 at 9:58 AM
It went ahead on day 4 itself
Dilwale has not crashed but it started lowish and didn’t sustain. Now even if it is relatively stable at low end, evetual haul is us going to be underwhelming.
If ut sustains in this pattern, it might limp to 150. Otherwise, around 130. In either case, it will be a very disappointing result.
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December 23, 2015 at 11:51 AM
Agreed Rajen — note that all these years later, Dilwaale is barely putting up 15-20% higher numbers than Ra-One, which itself was quite a disappointment and a fast fade. But then that isn’t surprising: if I’m not mistaken, only once in the last ten years has the highest grossing Hindi film of the year been a SRK film.
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December 23, 2015 at 11:53 AM
yes and that was OSO in 2007.
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December 23, 2015 at 11:57 AM
PS — even on fast fades, note the difference in numbers: Salman has also had films that have faded really fast, and can be said to have under-performed (relative to a Bajrangi Bhaijaan or a Dabangg 1) on trending. But Salman’s fast fades are putting up numbers like Ek Tha Tiger and Dabangg 2 did (150+), whereas SRK’s are comfortably south, in the 110-130 range (Ra-One; Dilwaale). It’s true the media has become very soft on Salman, where whether a film grosses like Bodyguard or like Bajrangi Bhaijan the coverage is at the same ecstatic level, but obvious under-performers like Bodyguard aren’t the majority of his releases). I won’t even mention Aamir here because even his relatively off-beat Talaash got to about 90, so ’nuff said (there are, as an aside, always a few who try and hold his films against him — “hey Aamir’s films are good so they don’t count!” — in a display of logic that depresses me as far as the country’s future is concerned)…
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December 23, 2015 at 12:08 PM
No but Aamir has always played this dirty game. Consider the new Star Wars. It’s going to make 700 or 800m or whatever. But that’s because it got good reviews and everyone liked it. This is the kind of dirty trick Aamir pulls. This time Salman got a bit dirty with Bajrangi too. Did a meaningful film, shockingly for him. Still didn’t get to PK but that’s another matter. By the way have you noticed how SRK fans seem to have a great deal of appreciation for SRK and vice versa. The same was true of some Hrithik fans too. Aamir is always the ‘excluded’ one in this sense. Now of course no one this side of sanity would deny his status in any sense (some still try.. but democracies have to tolerate the insane too) but it’s always interesting how these discussions get perverted. When he does a 100 SRK and Salman can supposedly do it by default. hey I;m still waiting! Without inflation becoming a factor it never really happens. The same for 200 or 300 or whatever. Bajrangi still did it without this kind of factor but this wasn’t true for any of the 200 crore grossers. One could similarly look at the Ghajini graph versus others. Similarly one could look at Aamir;s prestige stuff, what people used to say and how people pretend art house efforts are being made when SRK or someone else does them. So there has always been this kind of ‘unease’ where SRK is concerned. Somehow PK just means that someone else can do it. Meanwhile when it’s Dilwale notice how charitable things become (and not just on the part of SRK fans). On a related note suddenly competition with BM is such a fearsome proposition one would think it was ETT at the other end! Such exaggeration. And because of which hey even a 100 by Dilwale is a big deal. This is SRK-Shetty in a film post-CE. Then people think I’m attacking them or whatever. If you say such bizarre stuff you reveal your anxiety. You don’t really make a case for the film.
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December 23, 2015 at 12:10 PM
Re: “No but Aamir has always played this dirty game. Consider the new Star Wars. It’s going to make 700 or 800m or whatever. But that’s because it got good reviews and everyone liked it. This is the kind of dirty trick Aamir pulls. This time Salman got a bit dirty with Bajrangi too. …”
LOL!
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December 23, 2015 at 10:01 AM
Instead of competing with Aamir and Salman, SRK is now competing with a ranveer led historical – fans are fans, spin is spin. D beating BM in collections was a no brainer…but that BM is putting up a fight is the surprise.
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December 23, 2015 at 10:01 AM
“For Dilwale 250 was a real possibility. I never believed the 300 thing because Shetty’s movies don’t trend too well. ”
Yes if D released solo – 250 cr was always the expectation but not when released alongside another movie where it had to fight tooth and nail to get even the screens.
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December 23, 2015 at 10:04 AM
“…BM is putting up a fight is the surprise.”
Silly comparisons.. BM isn’t doing something extraordinary… D is doing below expectations, that’s all to it. BM will still same as expected prior release and D will not.
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December 23, 2015 at 10:09 AM
http://www.indicine.com/movies/bollywood/indicinelbo-dilwale-and-bajirao-mastani-lifetime-prediction/
The trade never expected this. It’s doing more than ppl expected. Ppl expected another thumping for SLB. I think you are defending D performance and taking it too personally. Don’t worry there is still Fan and raees to come…SRK will be back.
But I’m grateful you’ve finally admitted D is doing below expectations.
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December 23, 2015 at 10:13 AM
I think before release or same day, I’ve told Satyam.. D doing 150 crs (with all the issues and competition) is akin or more than HNY doing 200 or PRDP doing 200 crs with solo release. If you understand that, you will realize the WOM is actually not bad than those films. .
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December 23, 2015 at 10:14 AM
That’s like one batsman scoring 10 and another claiming victory with 11. Neither here nor there.
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December 23, 2015 at 11:18 AM
What if it does much less than 150?
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December 23, 2015 at 10:23 AM
“. I think you are defending D performance”
What I’m actually doing is that trying to differentiate the scenario which is better than lumping all movies, all situations, release time and then judging one same criteria. No will judge Dhobi Ghat or Talaash with PK or Dhoom 3 but every SRK movie ought to be the biggest blockbuster of all time or else its a flop. I’m sure FAN doing 100 crs is another disaster in your eyes whereas Talaash doing 90 crs is superhit!
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December 23, 2015 at 11:17 AM
You’re being silly.. Raees or Fan will of course have a lower bar to live up to but I hope that all those who consider Talaash a failure without qualification will remember this total then! On dilwale c’mon I wasn’t the one hangong on to every detail like my life depended on it! You can’t have it both ways. And this whole ‘alright it’s not the biggest blockbuster’ spiel is a bit stale and certainly unconvincing by now. The film would be lucky to match the Tanu sequel number at this point.maybe that’s why Srk teamed up with Shetty after CE! C’mon!
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December 23, 2015 at 11:20 AM
By the way even Srk has accepted what’s going on. Not sure why you want to be the last Japanese soldier on the island still fighting the war.
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December 23, 2015 at 1:08 PM
“Instead of competing with Aamir and Salman, SRK is now competing with a ranveer led historical”
At this rate, he may compete with the bachhans pretty soon 🙂
By the way, it’s great to see all these bachhan fans all of sudden out of nowhere. Wonder where they all go when bachhan film releases. For reference, please see all is well boxoffice thread and see the number of comment bachhan fans put up.
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December 23, 2015 at 2:05 PM
“Wonder where they all go when bachhan film releases. ”
wherever you were vacationing after HNY.. thought we ran into each other..
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December 23, 2015 at 9:25 PM
“wherever you were vacationing after HNY.. thought we ran into each other..”
Nah, people making 200 crore vacation at different place from people who make 20 crore 🙂
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December 23, 2015 at 10:01 PM
with Piku super-performing for its genre and Dilwale underperforming perhaps we can agree on a common destination.. with Raees and Fan around the corner Piku’s might start looking like a dream gross very soon, even for much safer commercial genres! let’s put it this way.. you’re certainly not going to be vacationing with Salman’s or Aamir’s fans..!
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December 24, 2015 at 12:20 AM
**“Wonder where they all go when bachhan film releases. ”**
Umm..it’s really funny how these guys/gals/Gauri’s children start resorting to Bachchan. Hope you haven’t ‘mixed’ Amitabh and Abhishek — just like now dim-wits are celebrating ‘combined’ totals of D and BM!
I was not really a party to Satyam’s talk of SRK fans’ anxiety. But bringing AB [I mean Amitabh] into each and every ‘comparison’ really brings to the fore this anxiety that Satyam keeps talking about. That summit of reaching the sun really eludes these guys and their idol. Their only hope remains of trying to ‘lessen’ the impact and intensity of sunlight. They know they cannot equate the candle-light to the sunlight, but hey, they can try their best to portray the sun-light as a diminishing force!! At 72!!
I hope now the ‘defense’ won’t be that one was talking of Abhishek! Since Abhishek and any greatest fan of his on this globally-warmed Earth would not even in their wildest dreams when enjoying pot in Colorado would bring up a comparison between SRK’s and Abhishek’s stardom!
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December 24, 2015 at 1:05 AM
Amitabh Bachchan at 72 is ahead of all the Khans, young heart-throbs on all social networking sites be it Twitter or FB or his own blog and directors from Hirani to Shankar having their dream to direct him at least once in their lifetime and also consistently been featuring in top 5 celebrities in terms of money and fame!! Yet these very known facts are “Alien” to those who are spending 24*7 on blogs just to defend the lame performance of their favourite star and comparing him with Khans shows who is the barometer to gauge their star value!! It’s unimaginable what it would be in his prime when he was delivering monstrous hits one after the other despite media ban, can just sympathise with those who can’t accept the “Real facts” and keep on comparing “An Apple to Guavas basket!!” and then have a hearty laugh on such infantile desperate souls!!
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December 24, 2015 at 7:36 AM
I guess you missed the point of bachhan fans putting in all of their effort to make srk look bad. If bachhan are doing so well, talk about them, why spend so much time on srk?
you have problem with srk fans talking about srk but have no problem about bachhan fans wasting their life away talking badly about srk?
go thru the history of this blog and you’ll get the point unless you want to be blind.
Again, I’ll take 100 crore grosser dud like dilwale any day over 20 crore grosser blockbuster All is Well 🙂
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December 23, 2015 at 8:29 AM
I think we need to give time and there are holidays. The films are not as big disappointments as PRDP which was expected to do 400 crores without any competition and Salman in a double role after the success of BB.
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December 23, 2015 at 8:51 AM
It’s still very early to term Dilwale a flop, but the signs are not looking good for Rohit Shetty and team
Is this game over for Shah Rukh Khan’s Dilwale?
http://www.hindustantimes.com/bollywood/is-it-game-over-for-shah-rukh-khan-s-dilwale/story-oOyRcmyH5snm9N4XQoR6gN.html
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December 23, 2015 at 8:56 AM
Basically Kajol & kriti (along with Kashibai/ Mastaani) have been SCHLONGED by Bajirao
No point in denials —accept & move on…
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December 23, 2015 at 9:52 AM
Varun Dhawan hurt by media’s indifference to boycotting of Dilwale
“The boycotting of Dilwale by a certain section did hurt as an actor, as an artiste. We made the film for the audience to enjoy,” said Varun Dhawan in a Bollywood Hungama
“Our release wasn’t a tension free release. It wasn’t a normal release. People in the media knew about it but they didn’t write about it for some reason. People keep on telling us that stand up for something but when we do stand up, we don’t get the support from the media or the film fraternity. It hurt me. I felt bad about the whole thing,” said a visibly hurt Varun Dhawan.
http://www.bollywoodhungama.com/news/16961610/Varun-Dhawan-hurt-by-media%27s-indifference-to-boycotting-of-Dilwale
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December 23, 2015 at 10:01 AM
…..Aao Thoda Politics Ho Jaye !
Bachchan was absolutely right for terming Indian politics – ‘cesspool of politics’
‘Wait and watch,’ says Kirti Azad as BJP suspends him
Reacting to the news of his suspension, Kirti Azad said, “Wait and watch for my next move, the fun starts now”.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Wait-and-watch-says-Kirti-Azad-as-BJP-suspends-him-for-colluding-with-Congress-AAP/articleshow/50299837.cms
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December 23, 2015 at 10:08 AM
Taran Adarsh @taranadarsh
#Dilwale Fri 21 cr, Sat 20.09 cr, Sun 24 cr, Mon 10.09 cr, Tue 9.42 cr. Total: ₹ 84.60 cr. India biz. STEADY!
#Dilwale is UNSTOPPABLE in UK, crosses £ 1 million on Tue… Mon £ 143,808, Tue £ 172,653. Total: £ 1,044,110 [₹ 10.27 cr].
#Dilwale crosses MYR 1 million in 4 days in Malaysia… UAE-GCC Week 1 should close at $ 4.5 million. UNPRECEDENTED!
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December 23, 2015 at 10:31 AM
#Dilwale is UNSTOPPABLE in UK, crosses £ 1 million on Tue… Mon £ 143,808, Tue £ 172,653. Total: £ 1,044,110 [₹ 10.27 cr].
srk films always do well in uk and so does other 2 khans,here in uk,btw last night even bajirao mastani was alamost full which is unusual considering a week day and non khan film…
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December 23, 2015 at 10:40 AM
Yes agree Vijay. Also the reason SRK took panga here is as ROI is not at stake here and worldwide like PRDP will again end up in top 5 or so considering Christmas / Vacations work better overseas. Its the perception and reputation which is under scanner at the moment.
Now this tweet –
KRK @kamaalrkhan 3h3 hours ago
Today also all the shows of #Dilwale are houseful all over the UAE. It’s proof that @iamsrk is the biggest Bollywood super star in overseas.
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December 23, 2015 at 10:10 AM
On the intolerance bit I will say srk is paying for some of the damage done by Aamir for contemplating on leaving India. Now whatever was the context of aamir blabber , but it has hurt a lot of people and the sense of ungratefulness has steeped in public minds…..( yes media is to be partly blamed for distorting and twisting , but aamir being a public figure should have known what catches media attention to sell)
Also blame for SRK intolerance debate needs to go to Barkha Dutt and if anyone watches that interview, will vouch she kept on insisting to say something on that bit…….and he started okay now people are more vocal on social media, more mediums are out there etc etc…..and rest as they say is history.
Salman came out of it smartly using common man thesis by saying something like……. I am sitting here , Sonam is sitting here and you
(the jounalist ) here and all from different religion so where is the so called ‘ intolerance’….
But if all this is not nipped in the bud there is trouble for ‘Khandom’ ahead.
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December 23, 2015 at 11:44 AM
Re: “On the intolerance bit I will say srk is paying for some of the damage done by Aamir for contemplating on leaving India. Now whatever was the context of aamir blabber , but it has hurt a lot of people and the sense of ungratefulness has steeped in public minds…..( yes media is to be partly blamed for distorting and twisting , but aamir being a public figure should have known what catches media attention to sell)”
Now I’ve heard it all: Aamir is to blame even for this?! Wow, if I had SRK’s super-power — of being able to weasel out of responsibility in any situation — I wonder what I would do. Maybe that should be the new set of films for SRK: TeflonDon (“ye Don anday ki tarah…phisal jaata hai”). [Aside: the only context in which Aamir’s comment is “transferable” to SRK is a communal one; but in fact, the reaction was very different: SRK’s buddies in the media all showed up to canonize him (according to Barkha, we don’t even deserve him) while Aamir had to face the music with a bunch of manufactured outrage wholly out of proportion to what he actually said).]
Let’s not get distracted away from the real story: the much hyped re-union of Kajol and SRK (Rohit Shetty was an odd choice to begin with, a frankly cynical one — hard to make memorable films if the process of making them is so plastic) is a dud. Apart from the BO numbers, I have literally not met nor heard of anyone who’s seen the film and liked it. Now, I bet you the film isn’t that bad — but that’s what happens when something seems stale.
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December 23, 2015 at 11:53 AM
the reason one avoids the more obvious explanation is of course because one doesn’t like the conclusions one then has to draw from it..
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December 23, 2015 at 1:11 PM
I would love to see aamir comment on how intolerance india is a month before dangal is about to release and see what happens.
You think he will do that?
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December 23, 2015 at 6:12 PM
Qalandar, the bit on Aamir getting some blame here, firstly that incident is still fresh plus there is always this insinuation and herd mentality which is dangerous than any other angle at play here…. I mean sometimes brain suppresses personal morals when in group and this phenomenon is not restricted to India but prevalent worldwide. As someone here (I think munna ) mentioned the propensity for groups of people to shed the inhibitions of societal and moral standards when they act as a group. A group of people will often engage in actions that are contrary to the private moral standards of each individual in that group, sweeping otherwise decent individuals into mobs.
Once again,I don’t wish to comment much on the movie as it is all subjective. Although the movie was jerky and badly edited and may I say ‘again’ seemed hastily done, there were few individual brilliant sequences which had partly paisa wasool filmy moments….( not necessarily with srk but other cast members like Varun showing brotherly love and mouthing street smart lines like ‘hawa aaney de’…). In current phase , cinema for me means more tapoori /larger than life more than the ‘sophisticated’ because if the latter is not done well it comes across contrived/ quasi fake and a waste of time esp if in the alternate universe one is witnessing great innovative stories being told on TV/ HBO/Netflix.
Have said before too, Dilwale is suffering more due to HNY fatigue which is still fresh on everyone’s mind than anything else. SRK needed a change of genre to erase HNY memories before coming with Dilwale. I guess open Christmas was too much of temptation for him ….plus he has effectively played party pooper to SLB/ Ranveer’s outing where they could have genuinely had his own Yeh Jawaani Diwani blockbuster moment like Ranbir.
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December 23, 2015 at 3:18 PM
Salman will take him under his wings and teach him survival tactics. As An Jo said first teach him how to fly kites. Makar Sankranti is only a few days away.
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December 23, 2015 at 10:20 AM
Star Wars Tuesday in US…..38M. This one is touching 800M here.
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December 23, 2015 at 10:24 AM
Heat is on !!!!
After some discussions on Salman postponing his Sultan , KJO jumped in yesterday with his confirmation out of fear to protect his slot before salman changed his mind. Salman is also close to KJO, so i doubt he will mess him up.
Looking at some of the backlash on boycotting movies, I still feel the ‘Dildar Salman’ will vacate Eid date for SRK since his movie requires support and also an Eid type of audience esp with current vitiated atmosphere. Dialogue likes ‘ baniye ka dimaag, miyaan bhai ki daring’ etc cater to a certain demographic.
anyway interesting tweets –
Karan Johar ?@karanjohar Dec 22
And it’s a wrap on our London schedule!!!! #AeDilHaiMushkil all set to release on the 28th of October 2016!! DIWALI!
taran adarsh ?@taran_adarsh 2h2 hours ago
No, #Sultan is NOT postponed to Diwali 2016. Confirmed for Eid 2016. Which means, #Sultan [Salman Khan] versus #Raees [SRK] clash is on!
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December 23, 2015 at 10:28 AM
MSDhoni, I think Salman is not willing to complete Sultan so quickly. Its affecting his health and just 20 days schedule completed and more 90 days to go. He don’t want to shoot so fast and affect his health, so 2nd schedule has been delayed as he wants proper break now. Eid also comes a little early next year July 3 and its pretty tight schedule especially if its kushti scenes to be shot. See the director’s tweet.
Abbas Ali Zafar @aliabbaszafar
1st schedule of @SultanTheMovie wraps today. 20 days down 90 more to go.
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December 23, 2015 at 10:24 AM
For God’s sake SRK can you please fly a kite with Modi and finish this intolerance imbroglio & DILWAALE’s ticket sales’ issue once and for all!!
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December 23, 2015 at 10:36 AM
” For God’s sake SRK can you please fly a kite with Modi ”
love this from An Jo, I love to fly the kite then cut modis patang “kai po che “
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December 23, 2015 at 11:11 AM
Incredible !
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December 23, 2015 at 10:24 AM
there are box office experts who actually believe that SW can do 185M on it’s second weekend!!!!!!! Crazy cannot even define what this means.
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December 23, 2015 at 4:35 PM
I will be watching it on Friday…in D-box version. Usually watch one movie a year in d-box and seems like this one will be worth the price.
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December 23, 2015 at 5:06 PM
I don’t think D-Box is available in NYC.
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December 23, 2015 at 10:33 AM
cooldude the numbers are there for but buzz like Avataar / TDKR is missing…….
May be its just at my end …or Star Wars genre is not that hot with Indians
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December 23, 2015 at 10:37 AM
SW’s buzz is insane in US at the moment. The Monday \ Tuesday numbers are just out of this world.
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December 23, 2015 at 1:07 PM
SW is humongous and will go past Avatar in the US.
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December 23, 2015 at 1:25 PM
Easily, at the rate it’s going.
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December 23, 2015 at 10:46 AM
At the overseas box office charts, Bajirao Mastani is at number 10 in the Top Ten US box office charts and number 7 on the UK charts, Eros said. In its opening weekend, Bajirao Mastani grossed over Rs. 30 crore from overseas markets.
Analysts also expect Bajirao Mastani to continue its strong run. “A strong word of mouth and critical acclaim has led to surge in footfalls, opening up the possibility of movie running for 3-4 weeks in theatres,” brokerage Maybank said in a note.
Bajirao Mastani’s collections are decent despite being pitted against Shah Rukh Khan’s Dilwale starring and Star Wars in the Christmas holiday season, the brokerage added.
Eros had released Bajirao Mastani across 3,750 screens worldwide
http://profit.ndtv.com/news/corporates/article-bajirao-mastani-holds-fort-in-box-office-clash-with-dilwale-1257682
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December 23, 2015 at 1:16 PM
As a SRK fan, i’ll tell you guys frankly, it hurts much…in fact very much to see his films not grossing expected numbers and hell it’s even being bettered by a Ranveer movie…wow!!! I didn’t even think of this possibility in my worst nightmares … but for sure some of the fault lies with SRK’s scipts’ choice…Don, Don2 , HNY Ra.1, JTHJ were all crap movies….why does he have to do these types of films which even his hardcore fans disliike!!! And yes another thing I’ll say is that many people are happy when a SRK movie underperforms…I stiii can’t understand why this is so??? 😦 I mean he’s an actor like everyone else…doing movies for entertainment then why is he always criticised for every of his movies, hell why is he even disliked that much…guess I’ll never get a concrete answer for this…But I do sincerely hope Dilwale picks up and perform better than BM…if not then I’ll still hope his next movie is a superhit or blockbuster because he is my favourite star…I just don’t like to see the negativity around SRK … just hoping his movies will be better from now on and even if it’s not he’ll always be my favourite star…and Satyam and all you guys I really like your comments and visit this blog everyday…just took a big courage to share my opinion today…hope I won’t be lynched 😉 love to you all from Mauritius 😀
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December 23, 2015 at 2:05 PM
thanks for the comment…
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December 23, 2015 at 4:02 PM
You are from Mauritius? Interesting place. Regarding SRK — he has a humungous fan base, very loyal; is liked by the entire film industry; Anupam Kher spoke up for him during the intolerance controversy( and a few days later blasted Aamir to bits, on Twitter). Like Sandy wrote , Aamir is a Lone Ranger; does not have full media support, doesn’t not have full film industry support ( though he has his own loyalists). And his fan base is small, niche. And next year SRK has two interesting films coming up. SRK looks good at 50. He easily has another 5 years at the top or nearabouts.
About Aamir, I am not sure. His recent careless remark ( for which I don’t consider him a deshdrohi) — it has cost him plenty of goodwill. Can he get out of this self created situation…maybe, if he is lucky. But I have my doubts. Dangal looks chancy.
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December 24, 2015 at 12:08 PM
Thanks LS 🙂 . Just hoping that SRK does some quality movies and that people hate him less :p 😉
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December 24, 2015 at 12:34 PM
Ziyad,
wished we had simple sofisticated fans here as Ziyad,two simple sentences said it all..I am sure srk will do some quality films in future but not sure people will hate him less,all stars have their fans but all also have hatred fans situated everywhere,some hate amir khan,salman khan and others,some people even started hating ranveer singh,can you imagine that….look at amitabh he is now 73 but hatred is still there…
every actors who are top are hated in their own right because they are successful so srk is not immune…
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December 23, 2015 at 1:37 PM
i haven’t seen Dilwale, but I was among the first few to express how this was a project of convenience with cynical boxoffice aims. To that end, the film is looking like a big disappointment. Why else would SRK come out and sound all defensive and pleading about his intolerance remarks? I’m not convinced that his remarks are responsible for the film losing the little steam it gathered on the first two days, thanks to SRK’s core fan base.The film got poor reviews everywhere, including from quarters that are seen to be SRK cheerleaders. The actor has only been doing commercial potboilers for a while now, and none were critically dismissed like Dilwale. Even his last- HNY – got a 3 star on average. Frankly i was shocked to see an SRK film being handed a one star! And this is an actor who has plenty of media support, unlike Aamir who is a lone ranger. It was evident during the intolerance controversy.
My point is – Dilwale appears to be a very average film, and the public is getting tired of SRK doing predictable no-brainers in the futile pursuit of keeping up with numbers, and not becoming a very distant third to Salman and Aamir! He needs to mix it up. His next, Fan and Raees look good.
Was his remarks responsible for the no showing? Well, maybe a little. Once people sense a film isn’t going to be any great shakes, it becomes easy to give it up for any flimsy reason.
Will Aamir suffer next? I expect some protests ,but it’s a year away, and perceptions can change either way. Also, Dangal is not a masala entertainer; the fact that it is a social drama makes it a lesser target. But overall,I think it’s crucial for the film to be outstanding; anything less, and people may boycott the film. There was genuine outrage against Aamir and a sizeable number of people may stay away unless the film is pure gold. Then, of course, the Indian public’s sense of fairness will take over, and everyone will flock to see it.
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December 23, 2015 at 1:45 PM
I don’t sense good things for Dangal as a film. Aamir is due an error of judgement and he is pushing out his body one too many times I feel here.
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December 23, 2015 at 2:08 PM
anything can of course happen but I am quite strong on Dangal.. because I think it will allow him to do the Lagaan kind of deal. Not a film of similar quality or anything. Just that this will have enough of the rustic to it, which is to say enough comic situations, important wrestling bouts a la Lagaan’s cricket and it will have a strong emotional appeal in the father-daughter thing. Leaving aside whatever feminist angle there is. So I think on paper he has the right elements here. The only place I’d agree is that I too sometimes long to see a normal Aamir in a film!
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December 23, 2015 at 2:05 PM
every superstars do that,when they are fallen hero every tricks in the books comes to light.
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December 23, 2015 at 4:46 PM
good comment and yes agree overall with the Dilwale point. On Dangal, I just want it to be a good film; and what I’ve learned from this is…if a movie is good…then the box office return will be great…what a concept!
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December 23, 2015 at 1:56 PM
Really enjoyed Bajirao Mastani…just a terrific, solid piece of filmmaking, maybe the most controlled piece direction from Bhansali in his career. Great dialogue-baazi, and remarkable visuals…to miss it on the big screen would be a huge mistake.
Saw few scenes from Dilwale on a pirated print…honestly couldn’t watch it even for free. If this movie is tolerated (hopefully not) by the public, then there is absolutely no intolerance in India 🙂
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December 23, 2015 at 2:04 PM
ha! on the last bit!
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December 23, 2015 at 2:39 PM
“Saw few scenes from Dilwale on a pirated print…honestly couldn’t watch it even for free.”
They made another version for pirated prints… for folks like you! Lol. 🙂
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December 23, 2015 at 2:49 PM
Yes, I did find there weren’t enough cars blowing up for a Rohit Shetty movie….glad those watching in theater are getting their money’s worth 🙂
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December 23, 2015 at 2:57 PM
“glad those watching in theater are getting their money’s worth”
Money’s worth is besides the point and secondary issue and if I take my example, I watch a movie on big screen or later on DVD if I’m interested…. doesn’t matter if it will be hit or flop. At least I don’t watch it on pirated copies and give my opinion or review. That is pathetic, it is better if you say you don’t care about D and don’t want to watch it. At least it sounds fair than this BS pirated opinion.
I think few days back.. someone asked about BM.. I mentioned if interested, you need to watch SLB on big screen, no point of watching it on TV or DVD later.
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December 23, 2015 at 3:19 PM
What’s your problem dude? You are taking this too personally.
So my opinion is BS because I am basing it on a pirated print, so why don’t you just go by the opinions of those who watched it on the big screen?
And please atone for my sins, and go watch Dilwale at least 10 times on the big screen. We all know that it needs some help.
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December 23, 2015 at 3:28 PM
Naah, I’m not taking it personally but you can’t make fun of folks who watch movies legally. I even responded in fun manner but then you are supporting your piracy and making fun of folks watching movies.. why wouldn’t I react? Isn’t this a movie blog? The whole point is watch movies and discuss. Yes, many folks watch it and give their opinions(can be good or bad) here but I don’t remember anyone endorsing piracy for thrashing a movie.
Also, its not about D only – I watch every big movie out there during whole year and that is again my personal choice. So its logical I will get defensive on that.
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December 23, 2015 at 8:58 PM
One of the srkian, between Z and master, posted BM pirated link here on BO thread, on saturday itself. Thankfully, satyam removed it. Srkians are worst, still take dignified stand if its about dilwale. Huh
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December 23, 2015 at 9:21 PM
“One of the srkian, between Z and master, posted BM pirated link here on BO thread, on saturday itself”
Satyam, can you tell this idiot raghav that it wasn’t me who posted the pirated link.
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December 23, 2015 at 9:26 PM
“One of the srkian, between Z and master, posted BM pirated link here on BO thread, on saturday itself. Thankfully, satyam removed it.”
Looks like kuch zyada hogay raat mein? See below for my reply.
“Satyam, can you tell this idiot raghav that it wasn’t me who posted the pirated link.”
+ 1
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December 23, 2015 at 9:53 PM
srkians ke paas gum main doob jaane ka achcha bahana hai, srk ke peeche dum hila ke din raat peete jaana hai ….hahaha
lutt gaye dilwale
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December 24, 2015 at 7:29 AM
“srkians ke paas gum main doob jaane ka achcha bahana hai, srk ke peeche dum hila ke din raat peete jaana hai ….hahaha
lutt gaye dilwale”
Beta, jab tumhara favorite star lifetime 20 crore se jada boxoffice collection kare, tab baat karna. Yaha to 20 crore pehle din ki baat hain.
SRK ke aage peeche tum lage rahe ho, kyun? Apne favorite star ki baat karne me sharm aate hai?
hahaha…
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December 23, 2015 at 3:40 PM
Re: “Really enjoyed Bajirao Mastani…just a terrific, solid piece of filmmaking, maybe the most controlled piece direction from Bhansali in his career. Great dialogue-baazi, and remarkable visuals…to miss it on the big screen would be a huge mistake.”
I was initially planning on skipping it (based on the Ras-Leela experience) but reviews such as yours have persuaded me, and I hope to check it out this weekend…
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December 23, 2015 at 2:00 PM
Yes, the film doesn’t have the outright vibe of a winner; and Aamir as a father to 4 (or 3?) daughters in a film about female empowerment etc…i don’t know. It’s an unconventional set-up, but the silver lining is that he has more often than not, produced a superlative film with these unusual subjects. His unconventionality is indispensable now, as the public is clearly tiring of seeing the same formulaic fares . SRK has reached his limit with it; Salman will run out of steam too.
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December 23, 2015 at 2:34 PM
I have absolutely no doubt that Dangal will be a great movie and will do min 200+ crs. Its the classic story of underdog which never goes wrong with all the social issues merged into them. Even if it does quite less, it will be hugely successful but I don’t it doing less than 200crs, a year from now in Dec 2016.
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December 23, 2015 at 2:48 PM
Dola dola to Pinga
Continuing my BM snippets from here https://satyamshot.wordpress.com/2015/12/20/dilwale-bajirao-mastani-2-the-rest-of-the-box-office/#comment-322004
There’s a lot of ‘history’ behind the casting of BM & whilst it does appear ‘coincidental’ & ‘circumstantial’ ultimately it’s significant & not a frivolous opportunistic piece of casting
pinga is not as opulent & lacks the wow factor of dola dola besides being a less catchy tune
But nonetheless pinga is sincere, well placed & has less fakery
Transposing the actors
Madhuri is rightly & ably substituted by Priyanka
Aishwaryas ‘legacy’ is carried forward by Deepika
And all four filmed this with dignity & ‘maturity’ without resorting to cheap cat fights etc
There have been good actresses like rani, vidya, kangana etc but as complete Bollywood performers, these four encapsulate bollywoods elite heroines over the last two three decades…
& bajiraos role couldn’t have been played by anybody now except Ranveer Singh
Who inspite of the flaws &inconsistencies, makes the role his own
Btw imo the role of bajirao isn’t an ordinary role–
I personally Loved the part of bajirao
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December 23, 2015 at 3:00 PM
Making out –pinga
Deepika is easily the weakest dancers of the four (Aish, madhuri &
PC) but kudos to her for not letting that affect her…
As for PC –have a sense that she is SRKs current (secret) lover in real life? Is that true ?…
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December 23, 2015 at 4:33 PM
Dilwale And Bajirao Mastani Hold Steady On Wednesday
Thursday 24 December 2015 01.00 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
Dilwale and Bajirao Mastani have held up very well on Wednesday as both films will see minimal drops. The business of Dilwale will be 8.25 crore nett apprx and Bajirao Mastani 9.25 crore nett apprx. The total of Dilwale is 89.25 crore nett after six days and Bajirao Mastani will be around 73.50 crore nett.
The Xmas period is kicking in and it could be that both films actually improve tomorrow as the evenings will get a boost due to the big holiday next day. The holds of Bajirao Mastani are very strong in the city multiplexes
The best performance for Bajirao Mastani is Mumbai circuit by a distance and the film is on a very strong run in the circuit which will take it comfortably over 50 crore nett, maybe to even 60 crore nett.
The best performance of Dilwale is East India especially West Bengal. It is a Shahrukh Khan film who is the number one star in the circuit but such collections for a masala genre film are still very surprising.
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December 23, 2015 at 8:17 PM
I always liked Rohit as a person and here he makes me admire him more for his straight talks.
@RajeevMasand
Rohit Shetty sportingly responds to criticism against Dilwale, reveals his fav films & why he cant make such cinema
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December 23, 2015 at 9:52 PM
This was good interview..
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December 23, 2015 at 8:22 PM
The Guild Awards 2015 was held last night. Sanjay Leela Bhansali’s Bajirao Mastani swept the awards ceremony winning as many as 9 awards – including Ranveer Singh in the Best Actor category, Best Director, Best Supporting Actress, Best Choreography, Best Dialogue, Best Cinematography, Best Art Direction, Best Sound Design and Best Costume Design.
The other big winner of the evening was Kabir Khan’s Bajrangi Bhaijaan, which won 5 awards. Salman Khan was the top contender to sweep the Best Actor awards this year, but Ranveer Singh delivered the performance of his life in Bajirao Mastani to win the biggest award of the night. Deepika Padukone was declared the Best Actress for her performance in Piku.
Best Film Of The Year – Bajrangi Bhaijaan
Best Actor Of The Year (Male) – Ranveer Singh for Bajirao Mastani
Best Actor Of The Year (Female) – Deepika Padukone for Piku
Best Director Of The Year – Sanjay Leela Bhansali for Bajirao Mastani
Best Actor Debut (Male) – Kapil Sharma
Best Actor Debut (Female) – Bhumi Pednekar for Dum Laga Ke Haisha
Best Actor in a Negative Role: Nawazuddin Siddiqui for Badlapur
Best Director Debut – Neeraj Ghaywan for Masaan
Best Supporting Actor – Nawazuddin Siddiqui for Bajrangi Bhaijaan
Best Supporting Actress – Tabu for Drishyam and Tanvi Azmi for Bajirao Mastani
Best Story – Bajrangi Bhaijaan
Best Screenplay – Kabir Khan, Bajrangi Bhaijaan
Best Child Artist – Harshali Malhotra for Bajrangi Bhaijaan
Best Choreography – Remo D’Souza for Pinga in Bajirao Mastani
Lifetime Achievement Award – Jeetendra
Yash Chopra Most Promising Debut Award – Neeraj Ghaywan for Masaan
Best Actor Comic Role – Deepak Dobriyal for Tanu Weds Manu Returns
Best Music – Amaal Mallik, Ankit Tiwari, Meet Bros Anjjan for Roy
Best Male Singer – Arijit Singh, Hamari Adhuri Kahani (Hamari Adhuri Kahani)
Best Female Singer – Monali Thakur, Moh Moh Ke Dhaage (Dum Laga Ke Haisha)
Best Lyrics – Varun Grover, Moh Moh Ke Dhaage (Dum Laga Ke Haisha)
Best Dialogue – Prakash R. Kapadia, Bajirao Mastani
Best Cinematography – Bajirao Mastani
Best Art Direction – Bajirao Mastani
Best Sound Design – Bajirao Mastani
Best Costume Design – Bajirao Mastani
http://www.indicine.com/movies/bollywood/sony-guild-awards-2015-winners/
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December 23, 2015 at 8:30 PM
There is hardly any drop for D on Wednesday. I think we should see a 9 cr plus collection. Thursday should maintain it as evening onwards collections will pick up. The key for Friday is how many screens the two movies lose to Star Wars. It D can put a figure close to 12 to 13 cr it means a 35 to 40 percent drop only from first Friday. I think BM will do around 15 cr which means an increase from first Friday. D is maintaining very well in singe screens, it’s multiplexes which are not supporting it in certain parts of he country.
Net net I think D inspite of WOM seemed to have settled now relatively and there is a chance now of 150 cr which seemed improbable when it dropped on Saturday. BM also seems to have a chance of 160 cr.
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December 23, 2015 at 9:28 PM
I think I’ve mentioned earlier, it will do 150 cr and will mean more better WOM than HNY but in overall scheme its not bonus for anyone associated.
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December 23, 2015 at 10:13 PM
It has 14 open days from Friday which includes holidays. Even more than 150 is possoble if Friday is around 12 cr.
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December 23, 2015 at 10:37 PM
But Friday is holiday.. even with lesser screens, why you think 12 cr is not possible when Wed/Thu is doing 9 crs?
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December 23, 2015 at 10:45 PM
It wont be so easy. D will lose substantially more screens in multiplex to star wars than BM. For BM get to to 14 is easier as It is doing better in plexus. D will need to be propelled by single screens and there is a limit to how much they can push. If it was not a holiday with those reduced screens 6 cr would have been the best hope and we are talking about doubling that.it is tough to achieve due to the middling WOM. If Delhi single screens shift to D it is possible.
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December 23, 2015 at 11:05 PM
Yeah make sense coz of Star wars’s release.
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December 23, 2015 at 9:57 PM
Q: You(SRK) are blending smaller films with big movies now.
A: Yes, I want to do two to three films now if possible. I set up Red Chillies as a production house and studio 12 years ago, and I had to put it on a sound footing, so I did a lot of big films where I spared no expense to make the best possible movie. That also took up a lot of my time, as I was hands-on in everything. Now I have got a crack team, and, if I do everything like before, I will be wasting their time, because they are so good. So I just stick to the creatives and call them over to tell them what I want and then leave them to do the job. So I have a great time with my other activities and go with my kids for matches and so on.
For a 150-strong company, however, I still need to do that biggie like “Happy New Year” and “Dilwale.” But I now want to also do those small movies that can be shot in 60 to 70 days instead of, say, 140, because I love those kind of films. I always loved doing a “Raju…” or a “Kabhi Haan…” and that’s where “Fan” and “Raees” come in. Now Aanand Rai has come to me with the character of a dwarf, and that’s very interesting. You see, I cannot WRITE a film for me. But I love such films. So I need to keep a balance.
Also people expect things from you, and you must give it to them. Aditya Chopra was going to make “Auzaar,” a hard-hitting action drama, with me. But he changed his mind stating that people loved me as a romantic hero. He then made “Dilwale Dulhania Le Jayenge” and continued making romantic films with me!
Honestly, I must tell you that some offbeat directors I respect come to me and want to make my kind of 200-crore film with me! I tell them I want to make their kind of cinema, and I will be good at it. If they tell me that they want to make a love story differently, I am game, because nobody knows love better than me! (Grins)
http://www.indiawest.com/entertainment/interviews/shah-rukh-khan-dilwale-has-an-inbuilt-promise-of-attracting/article_0394fe9a-a295-11e5-8f06-074441f190ec.html
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December 23, 2015 at 10:05 PM
Rumors about SRK and Ranbir in Shimit Amin’s next movie!
Shah Rukh Khan and Ranbir Kapoor working together is all things magical. There have been conjectures the two will soon begin work on Aditya Chopra’s project which is to be directed by Shimit Amin.
http://www.ibtimes.co.in/dilwale-star-shah-rukh-khan-share-screen-space-ranbir-kapoor-660691
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December 23, 2015 at 10:19 PM
You recently spoke about the controversy surrounding Aamir Khan & Shah Rukh Khan as well. You are one of the few celebrities in Bollywood who has always spoken about social issues. Do you feel disheartened with the way things have been deliberately misrepresented and misquoted in what Aamir and Shah Rukh said and how it was twisted?
Not just Aamir or Shah Rukh, but I feel that if anybody gets misquoted, it’s very unfortunate. When you are speaking to media or speaking anywhere, the least you’re going to expect is that the context in which you’ve said something is put forward in the same context. The sensationalism on some level has taken over. The headline is there to shock you and when you read the fine print, you realize that it was said differently and in another context. Secondly, I do believe that we live in a very thriving democracy where people have the freedom to say what they are feeling and what is troubling them if there’s anything troubling them. And there are people who have the right to disagree with them. But once that happens, the debate that needs to be surrounded should happen at a certain level of dignity. But when it is brought down to the level of a street brawl and when the intentions are being questioned, that’s a bit unfortunate. Instead, one should try to understand why the person is saying what he is saying and even if we feel that the person is wrong, you know what is it that we can say to them needs to be considered. By targeting them and pointing fingers, you are actually proving their point.
http://www.bollywoodhungama.com/movies/features/type/view/id/9461
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December 23, 2015 at 11:20 PM
http://www.india-forums.com/bollywood/film-reviews/59762-star-wars-episode-7-the-force-awakens-movie-review.htm
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December 23, 2015 at 11:43 PM
The Guirdan – Bajirao Mastani review – lusty yet progressive historical love triangle
4 / 5 stars
Deepika Padukone and Ranveer Singh get the epic hots for each other, as spurned wife Priyanka Chopra smoulders by candlelight – under the masterfully assured direction of Sanjay Leela Bhansali
http://www.theguardian.com/film/2015/dec/23/bajirao-mastani-review-historical-love-triangle-deepika-padukone-ranveer-singh-priyanka-chopra#comments
ps: this review just came out.
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December 24, 2015 at 12:20 AM
Girish Johar @girishjohar 2m2 minutes ago
“I guess we could shift” @iamsrk at the #Raees #Sultan clash
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December 24, 2015 at 1:16 AM
BM collections goes lower than D on Wednesday!
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December 24, 2015 at 1:23 AM
Happy?
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December 24, 2015 at 1:25 AM
Now take this folks!!!!!!
SRK to make Ra.One sequel – G.One!
It’s official. Shah Rukh Khan has confirmed that he’ll take the superhero franchise forward, film will be helmed by the same director.
“I will 100 per cent make the sequel. There are no two ways about it. By nature I am not someone to give up on a dream — be it KKR or Ra.One. Of course we will make it better now, because we have five more years of amazing experience in technology. I think we are the only ones who have it in this country. Inshaallah, we will figure a story and I will speak to Anubhav Sinha again. The film will be called G.One”
http://wwv.asianage.com/bollywood/i-will-definitely-make-gone-shah-rukh-khan-305
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December 24, 2015 at 1:55 AM
the definition of insanity is…
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December 24, 2015 at 2:33 AM
http://www.ibnlive.com/news/buzz/star-wars-fan-arrested-over-threat-to-student-who-revealed-plot-prosecutor-1181070.html
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December 24, 2015 at 6:45 AM
Now take this folks!!!!!!
SRK to make Ra.One sequel – G.One!
sometimes when a film bombs this panic attack occurs,cannot blame anyone its in the nature…lol
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December 24, 2015 at 2:01 PM
Problem with this interview regarding Ra.One sequel is ‘we will figure a story’…when you start making films in reverse you are asking for trouble.
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December 24, 2015 at 5:19 AM
In ur dreams. Go check boi or any trade site. Also be prepared to hear dilwale crash on thursday and further on friday. Its number of shows have gone half and still bookings are very poor. Number of deducted shows clarifies how poor it is performing everywhere except west bengal. Every other circuit bm has been leading since monday with margin getting better, there is high possibility dilwale collections were for weekdays were inflated, many sources say 6-7 cr on tuesday and wednesday. First week territorial breakdown should bring out real data.
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December 24, 2015 at 6:49 AM
yes desperate measures from now,shuving & pushing will be done on this D,on the other hand BM does not need anything its doing auto-pilot,rising & rising,people can see clearly what is good and what id dud….
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December 24, 2015 at 1:24 AM
Dilwale and Bajirao Mastani have held up very well on Wednesday as both films will see minimal drops. The business of Dilwale will be 8.25 crore nett apprx and Bajirao Mastani 9.25 crore nett apprx. The total of Dilwale is 89.25 crore nett after six days and Bajirao Mastani will be around 73.50 crore nett.
http://www.boxofficeindia.com/art_detail.php?articalid=1675#.VnuPdPl97IU
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December 24, 2015 at 1:30 AM
@KRK
Today, tomorrow n day after tomorrow are holidays in UAE n all the shows of #Dilwale are fully booked for next 3days. Superb run in UAE.
@GirishJohar
Wednesday Kanpur #Dilwale 6.59lacs #BajiraoMastani 6.34lacs aproxs
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December 24, 2015 at 2:00 AM
D will be a recovery movie at 125 cr. BM will be recovery movie at a little higher than that. For hit status both need 160 to 170 cr. This is just India business
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December 24, 2015 at 3:13 AM
MILD SPOILERS..
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December 24, 2015 at 5:04 AM
Fantastic review.
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December 24, 2015 at 7:31 AM
logged in to see this precious gem of a review AJ (which I was desperately hoping for). Chakas on every count, every word, every imagery, analogies you have used. Haven’t read something so superb in BM reviews which wants me to convince you to become a full time writer boss! Satyam should create a separate post on this one.
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December 24, 2015 at 7:45 AM
Two significant scenes worth a good discussion in these and those, tolerant/intolerant times, and even though the movie is all love story (he still put some scenes like this in the movie which allows the audience to ponder on history/self-reflection), for me, would be the scene where B-M’s son Krishna is not allowed a munji/yagnopavit and Bajirao changes the name of his son (possibly same thing happened to Mastani because she was also product of hindu father and muslim mother). The scene where they take mastani’s son away from her in the prison. Both scenes linger on in my mind. Poignant. Moving. Touching. Telling.
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December 24, 2015 at 7:48 AM
P.S.: what were you doing at 3AM…though the sleepless night produced such a piece of writing that makes me think that aayat of writing needs to convert to ibaadat-mohobbat-e-writing 🙂
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December 24, 2015 at 7:58 AM
Ranveer’s acting is like Bhansali’s movie making. There is flashes of genius/brilliance all over the place but something that leaves the end result still incoherant or one feels a sense of ‘adhura-pan”. It is like reading a most interesting, spactacular novel but in the end the reader feels that the book was somehow not complete and leaves him perplexed instead of satisfied. It is like eating the most sumptuous meal with laddoos, ghee, pharsan and feeling ‘full’ but not satisfied because maybe the daal-rice was missing. I feel Bhansali needs a collaborator like wozniak needed Steve Jobs to bring all his talents and genius to market it. Or merchant-ivory-jabavala, the trio that created movie magic each incomplete without the other. Ranveer is a good clay in hands of a right molder and hopefully he will become daniel-day-lewis that hs so desperately wants to be (he is not DDL that he thinks he is yet but on a right track at least from the choices and priority he has which has to be admired even if one cannot stand him on personal prejudices).
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December 24, 2015 at 8:05 AM
“And PINGA PINGA is the BEST example of Bhansali’s excesses. Absolutely unnecessary, zero value-added song.”
Well if there was more acceptance and tolerance of Mastani, if she didn’t have to grow up a muslim (we assume), if she was allowed ‘conversion’ even, then this is what would have happened. Pinga-Pinga. There would be no B-M movie and Bhansali would have to look elsewhere to make some other movie. The women as such had no problem as men in those days did marry multiple times. Had Mastani been a marathi mulgi then both her and kashi would have lived happily together and Baji’s dream of Hindu swaraj would indeed be successful because he may not have suddenly died at 39 out of broken heart etc. and instead of 40 wars he would have won 80 wars…etc..etc. So pinga-pinga is very important note from the film maker 😉 🙂
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December 24, 2015 at 4:55 AM
An absolute gem of a heartfelt review An Jo. You have what it takes to be a “Genuine” film reviewer without any agenda or propaganda, hats off for writing down “Prose in Poetry”, a very gifted and rare skill. Wish you could write more such pieces to enthrall and captivate us in equal measure as the movie you are writing about (As sometimes your writings surpass the movies you write about)
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December 24, 2015 at 7:33 AM
““Genuine” film reviewer”. Amen
Agree on all counts. Though he is more genuine than the “reviewers” who get paid to do their jobs…alas…
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December 24, 2015 at 7:39 AM
http://www.indicine.com/movies/bollywood/dilwale-bajirao-mastani-show-count-in-week-2/
Oh how the tables have turned.
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December 24, 2015 at 7:51 AM
Not just india, in us aswell. Bm shows are very less reduced or kept intact. For dilwale 30-50% shows are cut. lets see how are first week numbers in us/canada.
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December 24, 2015 at 8:40 AM
This was expected. And I was saying 12 cr Friday after taking this into account only.
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December 24, 2015 at 9:01 AM
I think BM 2nd Friday might be bigger than it’s first Friday going by the trend. Can’t think of a recent movie which 2nd Friday was higher than first.
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December 24, 2015 at 12:45 PM
“I think BM 2nd Friday might be bigger than it’s first Friday going by the trend. Can’t think of a recent movie which 2nd Friday was higher than first.”
True but 2nd Friday is also Christmas holiday so the comparison isn’t fair. Another rare example is Queen collections where 2nd Fri > 1st Fri; 2nd Sat > 1st Sat and 2nd Sun > 1st Sun.
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December 24, 2015 at 1:19 PM
Yes, the comparison wouldn’t be same and fair. I mean you would never expect aamir/salman/srk/hr movies to make more 2nd weekend because they open big. most who wants to see it will see it in first few days.
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December 24, 2015 at 8:05 AM
This is classic. Had to dig it out of All is Well boxoffice thread… There are more classics comments if you care to go thru bachhan countless flop films posts.
Raghav Says:
August 21, 2015 at 5:24 AM
It has flopped And i think it is end of career for abhishek bachchan. Do you agree satyam?
Satyam Says:
August 21, 2015 at 6:18 AM
Not at all. Not by a long shot. There’s a reason why folks have been waiting for this supposed ‘end’ forever! And why every film is supposed to be a final ‘nail’ in his coffin. Except that there’s then another one. I’ve always said this but people greatly underestimate his resilience. Let’s how how much or not AIW does but he will be back and with a proper solo even if AIW doesn’t work.
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So Abhishek is still going strong but SRK, whose last 6 films have made over 100 crore including 2 over 200 crore (this just in india) and Raees and Fan coming up, his career is fading?
So SRK, ranbir, hrithik, etc.. are at risk but somebody who has given countless flops is doing fine. LOL, what logic…
SRK is going nowhere, neither his fans 🙂
Bolbachhan was celebrated here like it was a huge success, well a dud Dilwale will cross BB without any doubts.
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December 24, 2015 at 8:21 AM
But who said SRK is going anywhere? If you could find me a thread, a comment, anything of mine where I said that one would stop seeing him in movies perhaps we could talk.. otherwise this is a classic straw man argument.
On the rest not sure which Abhishek fan has denied the problems he’s been facing for a long time. The question is more about an ‘existential’ thread in his case. In other words it’s often been framed as ‘will he get any films at all?’ Or ‘will he get any films as a solo?’ that’s the question I’ve often responded to.
Of course the problem here is that if you think there is no comparison between SRK and Abhishek why bring it up at all? BB was a big deal for Abhishek, specially at that point in time. Just as 100 crores even today would be a big deal for many stars in many situations. But not Aamir or Salman or some others. However you want to play the game where you aim for 300 and compete with Aamir or whoever at that level but if the film fails completely 100 too is a big deal. So your argument lacks sincerity to say the very least! Much as you know well that in today’s money BB would be make a lot more than it’s 100 or whatever it was. But here’s the further dishonesty about it. From 1988 to 1992 (when he took a 5 year sabbatical) Bachchan had the greatest initial around, despite all the under performers (some were hits too too but that wasn’t by and large the case) his was easily the strongest initial by far. It wasn’t like today where a few stars, specially in the right project can bring up those initials. No one could at the time. And so even through that period he had some of the year’s biggest grossers and so on. But was this a problematic period for him? yes! Because by his own impossibly high standards that was a comedown. However he was still the biggest star (it wasn’t even like SRK relative to AAmir or Salman), he was simply the biggest. But still clearly in decline. Now if someone had said then ‘hey there’s no problem, his failures are making more than Anil Kapoor’s hits’, that would be factually true in most cases but that would still miss the point. If SRK just wants to be happy matching Ranveer Singh’s best performance with his underperformer or failure he can certainly do that. But I thought he was still trying to compete with his most immediate peers! Leaving aside the fact that no real audience out there says BM is a great film but Dilwale even as a failure is probably making as much. It doesn’t work that way. A film is liked or not. No one counts the crores of failure. Otherwise the audience would like Ra One as much as Ramleela! Again the disjunctive logic in place:
1)SRK is huge, as big as Aamir or Salman
2)even if he isn’t what did Abhishek do?
3)His flop is making as much as Ranveer’s hit.
4)He’s soooo rich… oooh…
Finally most Bachchan fans that I know don’t mix the father and son. Most of them are not even particularly fans of the son as far as I can tell. However the opposition has been quite eager to mix things in this way over the years. I am not going to defend the father here, even through all of his career mistakes and so on, because despite everything his pre-eminence at his age, measurable in a variety of ways, is for there for all to see. If one is going to be foolish enough to argue against this I won’t be foolish enough (at least anymore) to get into these pointless debates. However I do have a larger point to make and at the risk of repeating myself. I think there are ‘facts’ in the world and mine have never depended on what the other side claims, sincerely or cynically. So if someone wants to be dishonest about Bachchan I won’t be dishonest about SRK or Salman or whoever just to ‘get even’. I will still only say things I genuinely believe in. the whole ‘I said this because x said that’ logic is I’m afraid foreign to me.
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December 24, 2015 at 8:48 AM
As of now his career is over, but one can never say never. I remember Salman’s film flopping left, right and centre! and look today he is the best! Box office is funny..
Any given day SRK is bigger star, but comparing SRK’s box-office to Abhi, is an insult to SRK!
But I still believe if Abhi makes a good film with good director he can turn it around. He has frustrated many people who appreciated Guru, Raavn, Bluff Master, Yuva, Bol Bachchan, Paa etc. Those were some very good movies.
I have heard he is doing a comedy? Hera Pheri 3… he has good comic timing.. one never knows!
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December 24, 2015 at 8:22 AM
Z: I am surprised you are really trying to discuss Satyam’s comment on Abhishek seriously. I mean I thought by now everyone in the forum knows to let these kind of statements go by harmlessly.
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December 24, 2015 at 8:26 AM
yes for many years I’ve told people not to take my stuff seriously and ignore it. they never seem to!
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December 24, 2015 at 8:34 AM
Cause we love you just the way you are.
Just know, no matter how much we disagree, srk fans will not get down to a level of calling you satyamullah, intolerant, etc… 🙂
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December 24, 2015 at 8:31 AM
Agree, I take it back.
I’m sure on the flip side, some die hard srk fan will probably do same when srk gets to the point where his movies collect 20 crore only lifetime.
But I hope you get my point that how does it make sense logically? specially when one writes thousand word comment trying to bring stars down and at the same time defend somebody who can’t collect 25% of those other stars.
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December 24, 2015 at 9:31 AM
It’s precisely about logic. I’m very careful about the claims I make. But the reader also has to do some of the hard work for himself or herself. If I say Ranveer is doing very well and I then say SRK is doing poorly obviously the argument is a bit different in each case. But fans also need to have some honesty and not change the terms of the debate depending on the result. For instance forget the bschchans. Why not restrict your self to Aamir or salman? Say Srk is way behind at this point. Why Are Then Terms Like ‘Top 3’ Invented?! So again the fans need to become models of honesty themselves before they start going after others!
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December 24, 2015 at 9:34 AM
so why don’t you tell me where SRK ranks, I had him at 3. Where do you have him? And just out of curiosity, where do you have abhi?
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December 24, 2015 at 11:05 AM
It’s not about having him at 3. It’s about having a term like ‘top 3’.why? Because this is a way of ignoring the gap between the top 3 and him. Why doesn’t one just say ‘top 2’? That makes the most sense within this paradigm. If you asked me I might say this. I might then say it’s Srk and hrithik with the caveat that the latter has been on a downward graph and the former has been on a stagnant one for Very long. All things considered srk has probably been ahead of him in recent years. Ranbir looked to be getting really big but some of his recent stuff has really slowed him down and he doesn’t seen to have an obvious big one. Even Johar isn’t a guarantee these days. I could expand this but it’s a nuanced argument. To keep saying top 3 is a strategy to avoid saying those other two are well-ahead.
Now beyond a point the count doesn’t mean anything. To do a top 10 where someone is at 7 and some else at 8 is a pretty foolish exercise. Beyond a point you get out of that A bracket. There are then some solid stars and that’s about it.
As for abhishek first off I’ve said very much about him after AiW. Unlike many here including yourself I’ve never been I n a war w with the facts! The film didn’t even make 20 by the way. But what’s this ‘negotiation’ about? Maybe I’m a bigger star than abhishek but how does that change anything for srk? Again isn’t this a way of avoiding the conversation or changing the subject? This is the classic political move. It’s a ‘top 3’ or it’s about bachchan fans or its about abhishek. But somehow one never gets to the topic of actually evaluating srk honestly or looking at that reality squarely I’m the face! One just plays these rhetorical games which reveal the anxiety more than anything else.
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December 24, 2015 at 12:02 PM
I get it, you can’t answer my question or don’t want to answer it.
So stop trying to pull down srk and let him be which ever position you think he is at. If you think he is at # 25 behind uday chopra and chuncky pandey, fine, let it be.
What are you going after? That anybody who is not at #1, is not worth it? It would be an odd opinion considering you’re a fan of abhi, no?
problem for you is srk fans are happy with whatever position he is at, so if he is at 3, I’m happy, but you won’t be and will try to make a case that he is not at #3, if I say he is at # 4, you will not be happy and try to make a case that he is not at #4.
The fact is, what ever position srk is at, it annoys the hell out of you, hence you spend so much time on him. you spend more time talking about srk than srk fans do here.
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December 24, 2015 at 12:18 PM
“I get it, you can’t answer my question or don’t want to answer it.”
ha.. thought you were referring to yourself.. but hey don’t get so upset.. I couldn’t be more comprehensive even if I wanted to. But then avoiding facts is always a difficult enterprise. Not blaming you! if you criticize the BJP they say ‘what did the Congress do?’ or ‘you just have 44 seats’ or ‘everyone’s against us, they hate us’. All of this doesn’t exactly excuse the BJP on whatever criticism they’re facing. Of course you’re not as confused about these things when the topic is intolerance or whatever. But you bring in this very ‘political’ logic when it’s about SRK. I’ll just repeat this one point. If one doesn’t want to face up to facts one can keep finding alibis. It’s always then about what others are saying, it’s never about the problems/anxieties revealed by one’s own positions.
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December 24, 2015 at 9:33 AM
Though it’s true that here we only take seriously comparisons of Cocktail with Guru Dutt!
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December 24, 2015 at 9:43 AM
I know who Guru Dutt is but who is Cocktail? 🙂
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December 24, 2015 at 11:07 AM
The reference is to Utkal feeling certain moments in cocktail are comparable to guru dutt’s best. Or for that matter discovering dostoyevsky in d3 but he has a collection of such hits.
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December 24, 2015 at 3:18 PM
Wait till Utkal watches BM.
I can feel a Ranveer- AlPacino comparision coming on😄
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December 24, 2015 at 3:24 PM
Ha! but on a related note I might be checking this out myself at some point next week. Not a done deal but a lot closer to it now than ever before. before this there’s Star wars (yes ashamed not to have seen it so far), the Tarantino and the Revenant. Would check out the last one first but it’s on limited release.
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December 24, 2015 at 8:58 AM
For IP Man fans (If any!) IP Man vs Mike Tyson!
I have been a huge fan of earlier two parts. One of my most awaited chinese movie!
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December 24, 2015 at 9:41 AM
Part 1 was awesome, perhaps best martial art movie I’ve seen in years.
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December 24, 2015 at 10:57 AM
I liked part 2 also! of course part one was better…. hopefully this one is good…
It made me a fan of Donnie Yen!
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December 24, 2015 at 11:52 AM
I never heard of him until the Ipman. Became a fan since than.
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December 24, 2015 at 9:02 AM
Wasn’t aware they of this:
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December 24, 2015 at 10:33 AM
Aamir Khan in Dangal look at Anil’s birthday! Even his chest hair is white!
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December 24, 2015 at 10:51 AM
Was Anupam Kher also there?
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December 24, 2015 at 10:59 AM
Yes… don’t think they are enemies but disagreements are fine in this industry.
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December 24, 2015 at 11:27 AM
Anil Kapoor maintained so well .. At 59 he look quite very young, at par with khans.
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December 24, 2015 at 6:43 PM
50 year old Aamir is sporting/ realistic enough to play an older character in Dangal. Good.
Merry Christmas to all here at Satyamshot.
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December 24, 2015 at 6:59 PM
Personally I find that the one good thing here. A plus 40 playing his age.
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December 24, 2015 at 10:44 AM
38M Wednesday for Star Wars….364M in USA. Absolutely rolling over any box office record in it’s path.
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December 24, 2015 at 11:02 AM
First look of Himesh from #TeraaSuroor2.
Farah Karimi stars opp Himesh in #TeraaSuroor2. Entire shoot completed in Dublin. Produced by TSeries and HR Musik. Releases 11 March 2016.
Co-starring with Himesh in #TeraaSuroor2 are Naseeruddin Shah, Shekhar Kapur, Kabir Bedi, Shernaz Patel and Monica Dogra…
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December 24, 2015 at 11:50 AM
Master, there is no reason why you should be torturing us like this. What did we ever do to you? 🙂
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December 24, 2015 at 11:50 AM
“Co-starring Naseeruddin Shah, Shekhar Kapur, Kabir Bedi, Shernaz Patel and Monica Dogra…”
OMG!!!! Himesh is superman!!
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December 24, 2015 at 11:51 AM
The songs should be good.
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December 24, 2015 at 12:42 PM
Merry Christmas to all.
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December 24, 2015 at 1:00 PM
👍👍👍
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December 24, 2015 at 1:16 PM
thanks Sanjana.. best to you and everyone else here as well..
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December 24, 2015 at 1:24 PM
Thanks Sanjana, Satyam & Co and Merry Christmas to everyone!
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December 24, 2015 at 1:35 PM
@KRK
First Week at Indian box office #Dilwale 100+Cr n #BajiraoMastani approx 75Cr.
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December 24, 2015 at 1:54 PM
krk ko seriously nahi Lete.
KRK
12h12 hours ago
KRK @kamaalrkhan
#StarWarsTheForceAwakens was super flop in the gulf n all around the world so it will not effect #Dilwale n #BajiraoMastani at box office.
Dilwale 5 cr on wednesday-
KRK
Dec 23
KRK @kamaalrkhan
RT @gauravgaur9 Wednesday Rajasthan #BajiraoMastani 44 lakhs…. #Dilwale 27 lakhs.. India 9crs and 6 crs..!!!
Krk smokes pots and post on twitter every minute.
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December 24, 2015 at 2:21 PM
I don’t know what is going on with you? KRK’s total is still little lower than Taran Adarsh who has 93.39crs in 6 days, so 100 crs is obvious.. not sure what you smoking to not believe this.
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December 24, 2015 at 3:16 PM
krk said wednesday dilwale was 6 cr, and today he says bm first week is 75 cr , while bm in 6 days is already 73.5 cr.
Anyways why am i responding to delusion-ed fans, i wont from now.
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December 24, 2015 at 2:29 PM
Script of superhero film ‘Dragon’ is ready: Ayan Mukerji
Director Ayan Mukerji, who last directed the super-successful ‘Yeh Jawaani Hai Deewani’, is ready with the script of his next film – which will be about a superhero. The film, tentatively titled ‘Dragon’, will star Ranbir Kapoor and Alia Bhatt in the lead.
“People are talking about this film from a very long time. I have completed the script of this film. Finally, Karan Johar has approved the script. So, hopefully in early 2016, I’ll be able to talk more about the movie” Ayan said.
Ranbir is going through a low in his career, what with films like Besharam, Roy, Bombay Velvet and Tamasha, failing at the box office. But Ayan says, failure is part and parcel of the game.
“I know his films are not working right now. But it’s okay. This is part and parcel of the game” he said.
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December 24, 2015 at 3:31 PM
While in between these mediocre box office results from bollywood…star wars is crushing every record in history in usa…in India hype doesn’t seem to be much..looks like will do close to 1bn in usa alone to dethrone Avatar…however Avatar will remain global champ overall
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December 24, 2015 at 5:01 PM
Dilwale: 8 moments that defy logic, even by Rohit Shetty standards
1. Varun Dhawan’s car drifting
Sanjay Mishra calls Mukesh Tiwari ‘Gareebo ka Jackie Shroff’ in the film. Talking in the same lingo, Varun Dhawan is ‘Gareebo ka Vin Diesel’. You cannot stay neutral once you have seen the young actor drifting into the frame as he makes his entry. No we dare not make the comparison. It is the filmmakers. In case you still don’t get it, you have characters saying stuff like, “Ye Fast ho gaya to kya hua, aap furious mat ho.” Mr Shetty, you have heard about trying too hard?
2. Kajol’s slow walk on highway
Kajol definitely makes for the worst and most ridiculous gangster ever. And what’s with the slow walk against the backdrop of explosions?
http://www.hindustantimes.com/bollywood/dilwale-10-moments-that-totally-defied-logic-even-by-rohit-shetty-standards/story-1DDE6naDkNZDph5Wssh5QP.html
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December 24, 2015 at 7:40 PM
Wondering what all the protests were about. Saw Dilwale, got it. Indian junta is tired if same old ghisa pita garbage served on a silver platter. Only respite was availibility of aspirin at the concession stands. It was selling like hot cakes. Is picture be diljala diya
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December 24, 2015 at 9:47 PM
i wish i would have warned you or you just didnt read the reviews atall. here is one you might have read, hasnt been posted here yet.
‘Dilwale’ Review: This Movie Sucks, And We’re All To Blame For Its Existence
http://www.huffingtonpost.in/2015/12/17/dilwale-review_n_8835362.html
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December 24, 2015 at 9:52 PM
Star Wars was delayed by a week in India due to this excuse for a movie.
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December 24, 2015 at 7:45 PM
In an alternate Universe saw Bajirao Mastani. What a magnificent grandeur of a movie. Bahaut khub mazza aa gai. Amazing acting beautiful visuals spectacular scenes.
The Mano Amano confrontation between the sauts was spell bounding . Movie ne mastana jar diya. Aina Mahal gave us a glimpse of 18 century telepresence . I wish I could also burn the screen of my video conference when I did not like what I saw.
Kudos to SLB
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December 24, 2015 at 8:46 PM
Your video conference ? can i see it ? what had you said that you regret now? Actually, one should never make any notion about anything, without knowing it well. Glad you too loved the movie.
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December 24, 2015 at 8:58 PM
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/bengaluru/Bengaluru-doctor-designs-Rs-50-device-to-give-patients-their-lost-voice-back/articleshow/50318489.cms
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December 24, 2015 at 9:45 PM
BM jumped by 28% in kanpur on Thursday.
dilwale fell by 3%.
Girish Johar @girishjohar 9h9 hours ago
Thursday Kanpur # DILWALE 6.42lacs #BajiraoMastani 8.12lacs aproxs
Girish Johar @girishjohar 22h22 hours ago
Wednesday Kanpur #Dilwale 6.59lacs #BajiraoMastani 6.34lacs aproxs
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December 25, 2015 at 2:52 AM
Sadhana is no more.
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December 25, 2015 at 2:57 AM
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/hindi/bollywood/news/On-X-mas-B-town-celebs-wish-happiness-to-all/articleshow/50321582.cms
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December 25, 2015 at 2:59 AM
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/hindi/bollywood/news/Actress-Sadhana-Shivd
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December 25, 2015 at 3:10 AM
RIP to bwood’s first Sindhi actress. Aunt of Kareena/Karishma (sister of Babita). Classic Sindhi beauty and 60s fashion icon.
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December 25, 2015 at 4:29 AM
The man who quit Bollywood to make cheese
Bahar Dutt
1 October 2015
“OF BOLLYWOOD HITS AND THE YEARNING FOR SOMETHING NON-URBAN
“While I was making films, I used to come to Coonoor for shoots and my nephew Imran (Khan) was studying here in Boarding school. That’s when I decided this place gave me peace, this is where I wanted to be. That’s why in the year 2003-4 I started coming here for longer spells. We already had a family house in Coonoor but I started spending more time here. When I moved here I was already in debt, I was also quite depressed having lost both my parents recently .I was just following my heart. It was easy leaving Bollywood as films were just a stop gap arrangement , till I could escape. In the beginning when I moved here my friends thought I was becoming too cloistered that I was a maverick.”
‘MY THIS IS IT’ movement
“That moment when my wife Tina and our kids decided to move to Coonoor with me was my ‘THIS IS IT’ moment. It felt real. The fact that my family was going to join me here made it real. Then we started reading up on cheese making on the internet , it was important for me that Tina had something to do, which she liked and before we knew it the cheese was a hit. And then I became bolder, I loved the idea that when guests came we could teach them how to make cheese and soon it worked well economically as well for us. I don’t advertise my homestay, I deliberately keep everything understated, I like to live life at a QUALITATIVE rather than a QUANTITATIVE level.”
MY BOOK – THE THIRD CURVE
“Well life has come full circle in many ways. I was reading up on energy issues, I had in my days at University in the US, as a physicist been familiar with all these issues, when suddenly I thought we need to talk about this more. I wasn’t thinking of writing a book but I was invited to different places to give lectures and that’s when someone suggested why you don’t put all this in a book. I spoke to Aamir (Khan) he put me in touch with Chikki Sarkar in Penguin, I spoke to many people then I thought I have something to say so why don’t I publish the book myself. See if I wrote a book about Bollywood I would have got a fat pay cheque here I was writing about an issue in which I wanted to have all the freedom, to write as I wanted to say it. And so I wrote the book. It has done well, we printed 5000 copies, of which I think I have sold 3000 myself just by travelling around talking to people from all walks of life. It’s a book which everyone should read from corporates to ordinary people it appeals to everyone. I was in fact surprised by how many people relate to it. I didn’t want to talk about environment as a moral issue, that scares people off it makes them guilty. My message in my book is simple- How do you lead a life of LIMITLESS GROWTH on a planet with FINITE resources?”
AND WHAT DOES AAMIR KHAN THINK OF HIS LIFE AND BOOK
“Well Aamir has always been aware of my ‘off-centre’ thoughts; he was the one who asked me well how will you get this message out to people? Few people know this; you know that phase when Aamir got involved with the Narmada movement. I was the one who got him into this whole debate of large dams. Though I feel bad about it now because he got a lot of flak for it later!”
WHY I WANT TO GO BACK TO FILM MAKING
“I do feel the urgency now to take what I wrote in this book forward maybe as a feature film. But this isn’t the kind of film I would want should be part of the 100 crore club. I need to work on the script I need to drub the language and graphs – approach it in an entirely different way. That’s the challenge. I talk in an intuitive way, I need to write this film first and that’s what I am working on these days.”
social.yourstory.com/2015/10/mansoor-khan/
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December 25, 2015 at 4:38 AM
this seems like a very interesting idea for a movie…im curious as to what he might create based off of his book..and how that would fit in a very capitalistic society that ‘bollywood’ is today.
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December 25, 2015 at 10:07 AM
स्वर्गीय Dilwale
स्वर्गीय Dilwale – @TeraBaapHuMein
@indicine 1st week : Dabangg2 (2012) – 107cr. #Dilwale – 102cr (highest ticket rate ever+varun+kriti+gay rua+ kajol + takla shetty)
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December 25, 2015 at 10:11 AM
Shamesless srkians have started abusing Ranveer singh.
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December 25, 2015 at 10:18 AM
Indicine.com @indicine 4h4 hours ago
#BajiraoMastani is outperforming all films at multiplexes today, by a distance. 2nd Friday certain to be bigger than 1st Friday (12.81 cr).
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December 25, 2015 at 10:23 AM
Girish Johar @girishjohar 3m3 minutes ago
Early trends…#BajiraoMastani will be almost double #Dilwale at domestic BO today …. Estimated
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December 25, 2015 at 10:47 AM
Bajirao Mastani Has Very Strong Weekday Trend
Friday 25 December 2015 12.30 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
Bajirao Mastani has managed a good first week after a decent weekend. The film has had a very strong hold on the weekdays with the best business coming on Thursday out of all the weekdays. The film has grossed 83.50 crore nett in week one with a 45 crore nett and 38.50 crore nett weekend to weekday split.
The film is a huge hit in Mumbai circuit with business in week one going over 30 crore nett. Mumbai circuit had started well enough on day one but is the other circuits barring East India which have slowly come on board for the film which has really helped the film to a solid first week total. The business in West Bengal and Bihar is below the mark but should not make much a difference now as the rest of India is now doing good to very good business.
Recovery had looked impossible for the film on the initial it had taken but its weekday business has totally changed the scenario for the film. On this weekday trend the film is certain to hit 150 crore nett mark which would ensure recovery but there is a chance that the film could even go to 175 crore nett depending on the second week figures.
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December 25, 2015 at 10:48 AM
Dilwale Has Good First Week
Friday 25 December 2015 12.00 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
Dilwale has had a good first week of around 97 crore nett though the trend over the weekdays is average. For a normal film a 20% drop from Monday to Thursday would be good but Dilwale is an event film and although the weekend was strong it was not an optimum release which meant less business was consumed over the weekend so the weekdays should have done better. Also the weekday business is less than Bajirao Mastani despite a much better weekend.
The film has fared very well in West Bengal, Nizam / Andhra, Mysore and Tamil Nadu / Kerala. In the latter it will become the highest Hindi grosser of the year in just ten days.
The problem is all the above markets are not the core Hindi markets and that is where the film has suffered. Mumbai circuit has had strong competition from day one so the performance in Mumbai is understandable but North and Central India should be collecting much better especially the latter as its masala genre and central India normally leads for the genre.
The film does not have a problem for recovery as the first week in India is big enough with reasonable holds and Overseas is huge but eventually the India theatrical business will not be the sort that is expected from a big Shahrukh Khan film. The 300 crore nett number going around was never going to happen due to two films releasing together but 200 crore nett or close to it was a realistic expectation but it is going to fell short of that.
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December 25, 2015 at 10:48 AM
ha.. still extremely ‘kind’ reporting!
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December 25, 2015 at 11:16 AM
BOI is reporting overseas more frequently than usual, though official figures are not out yet. But, they are still not talking about US/Canada where ,to everyone’s surprise, BM is leading.
In other overseas market also, it has picked up, and dont be surprised if it performs neck to neck, atleast in uk, australia, this is really possible.
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December 25, 2015 at 11:17 AM
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December 25, 2015 at 11:52 AM
PRAKASH JAJU @Prakashjaaju 6h6 hours ago
Lag raha hai ki #BajiraoMastani aaj lagi hai … Itni terrific hai … Star Wars ko bhi khaa gayi.
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December 25, 2015 at 11:53 AM
dilwale_shahrukh @dilwala_SRK 6h6 hours ago
@Prakashjaaju Dilwale ka koi chance bacha hai kya Boxoffice pe???
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December 25, 2015 at 11:53 AM
rofl
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December 25, 2015 at 4:17 PM
Bajirao Has Growth On Day Eight Dilwale Flat
Saturday 26 December 2015 01.30 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
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Bajirao Mastani got benefit of the Christmas holiday as it showed growth of 20% from the previous day and the business of the film will be in the 12.50 crore nett range. The collections on day eight will be in the same range as collections on day one due to the holiday. The total is also in the same range as the Bajrangi Bhaijaan day eight figures but it was not a holiday for that film. The 12.75 crore nett by Bajrangi Bhaijaan was the highest day eight total this year and Bajirao Mastani can challenge it when final numbers come in the morning.
Dilwale was flat as it grossed 7.50 crore nett on its eighth day which is slightly lower than yesterday. Dilwale also got benefit of the holiday but that was cancelled out by the loss of screens at multiplexes. The figure is pretty decent as the fall could have been huge as there was a heavy loss of screen time at most major multiplex chains.
Dilwale has crosssed 100 crore nett mark in eight days with a total of around 104.50 crore nett while Bajirao Mastani is closing on in on Dilwale and the 100 crore nett mark with collections of around 96.50 crore nett.
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December 25, 2015 at 4:38 PM
BM is double of dilwale as per some trade sources, i think this could be revised based on below –
Girish Johar @girishjohar 6h6 hours ago
Early trends…#BajiraoMastani will be almost double #Dilwale at domestic BO today …. Estimated
PRAKASH JAJU @Prakashjaaju 10h10 hours ago
Lag raha hai ki #BajiraoMastani aaj lagi hai … Itni terrific hai … Star Wars ko bhi khaa gayi.
Bajirao Mastani is outperforming all other films at the box office on Friday and this includes both the Hollywood release ‘Star Wars: The Force Awakens’ and Shah Rukh Khan’s ‘Dilwale’.
The lead seems to be quite big, because multiplexes are performing at a much higher level of occupancy as compared to yesterday and even better than the 1st Friday.
The film could be looking at a total in the range of Rs 15-16 crore on 2nd Friday, depending on how well the night shows perform.
Dilwale is performing well too, but the film has lost a lot of its shows and screens to Star Wars and Bajirao Mastani, due to the latter performing very well during the weekdays. The Rohit Shetty film could be looking at a total in the 10 crore range.
http://www.indicine.com/movies/bollywood/dilwale-bajirao-2nd-week-friday-box-office-collection-update/
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December 25, 2015 at 5:04 PM
Raghav don’t paste the same comments again and again. You posted this earlier. I’ve edited that comment.
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December 25, 2015 at 5:18 PM
i dont comment without any substantial source, to prove why i am saying so, i had to posted these tweets from trade guys and the indicine. I knew it had posted that indicine link but to substantiate my claim, there is no facility i could refer to other comment. Anyways, i dont mind that.
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December 25, 2015 at 4:20 PM
Redchillies calculator has become really famous since monday , Taran is giving dilwale daily collections very close to BM, not just they gave Mon 10.09 cr, Tue 9.42 cr. against Mon 10.25 cr, Tue 9.40 cr. of BM.
some funny tweets –
RedChilli Calculator @RedchilliC 3h3 hours ago
@girishjohar Our RED CHILLIES CALCULATOR figure –
#BajiraoMastani – 8.04 lacs
#Dilwale – 8.06 lacs
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December 26, 2015 at 12:52 AM
Girish Johar @girishjohar 3m3 minutes ago
Friday Gurgaon #Dilwale 11.42lacs #BajiraoMastani 33.16lacs aproxs
Girish Johar @girishjohar 12h12 hours ago
Friday Kanpur #Dilwale 6.13lacs #BajiraoMastani 8.04lacs aproxs
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December 26, 2015 at 6:44 AM
Bajirao Mastani to open at 12.8 crore and then maintain almost the same average in its first 8 days, hence coming close to the 100 crore mark, is simply remarkable
http://www.koimoi.com/box-office/box-office-bajirao-mastani-set-to-cross-100-crore-today/
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December 26, 2015 at 8:17 AM
Bajirao Mastani Eight Day Business
Saturday 26 December 2015 15.30 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
Bajirao Mastani (Hindi) has grossed 95.50 crore nett in eight days. The daily business of Bajirao Mastani till date is as follows.
Day One – 12,25,00,000
Day Two – 15,00,00,000
Day Three – 17,75,00,000
Day Four – 10,00,00,000
Day Five – 9,25,00,000
Day Six – 9,00,00,000
Day Seven – 10,25,00,000
Day Eight – 12,00,00,000
TOTAL – 95,50,00,000
The film started doing very well on Monday and that has continued into its second week though the jump on Christmas Day holiday could have been higher especially for a film which had such a strong weekday trend. The film is doing excellent business in Mumbai and Mysore, good in other circuits with under performance in West Bengal, Bihar, Assan and Orissa.
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December 26, 2015 at 8:17 AM
Dilwale Eight Day Business
Saturday 26 December 2015 15.30 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
Dilwale has grossed 104 crore nett plus in eight days. The daily business of Dilwale till date is as follows.
Day One – 20,85,00,000
Day Two – 19,50,00,000
Day Three – 23,00,00,000
Day Four – 9,50,00,000
Day Five – 8,25,00,000
Day Six – 7,75,00,000
Day Seven – 8,00,00,000
Day Eight – 7,50,00,000
TOTAL – 1,04,35,00,000
The film is continuing its extraordinary run in West Bengal but the performance is not what it should be in main circuits like Mumbai, Delhi /UP and East Punjab.
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December 26, 2015 at 8:17 AM
BOI should get a ‘kindness award’ for their reporting on Dilwale..
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December 26, 2015 at 9:13 AM
“The film is continuing its extraordinary run in West Bengal ” Surely, they deserve the ‘ Kindness’ award.
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December 26, 2015 at 10:34 AM
Dilwale 1st week 95 cr BM 84 cr http://www.boxofficeindia.com.boindia.arvixecloud.com/Years/opening_week/2015#.Vn6y_JN95AY
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December 26, 2015 at 11:13 AM
http://www.dnaindia.com/entertainment/report-shah-rukh-khan-confirms-raone-sequel-reveals-it-will-be-called-gone-2159310
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