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There already seem to be too many ‘excuses’ in some of these reports so far! What they count as a perfect release is when no other film releases on the planet on that weekend and it’s an international holiday..
If it was an end of the world event they’d say ‘the film couldn’t do 40 (or whatever) on opening day because too many people were trying to get off the planet and also some of the potential audience died in the morning therefore affecting the evening shows’, ‘Salman is still the top opener for all films released on the day the world ends’.
Meanwhile Dhoni has pointed out a global conspiracy to destroy Salman. Getting a dozen or whatever huge grossers is fine but more than this is beyond the pale. ‘They’ will now take care of him. Enough’s enough. This is why he doesn’t cross PK. Last week God signed onto the conspiracy. Said he’d bring more bad weather to key Indian cities and keep audiences away.
Sir, these are pretty flat jokes……..and even if one were to disregard your obvious partisanship, one at least conceded to your decent sense humor in your commenting.
It seems you have missed few of my comments lately on Salman. I would suggest a revisit and then talk about conspiracies…. Though not relevant here haven’t you heard a saying – “The only time I commit to conspiracy theories is when something way retarded happens. Like Lee Harvey Oswald acting alone.”
On Salman why can’t you appreciate an evolving position? …..aren’t evolving candidate, evolving campaign, evolving thoughts, evolving tastes the current buzz words these days !
I’ve been seeing his huge numbers for years now.. that’s not in doubt for me.. I just want to see whether he can get the absolute biggest grosser this time. But then I always think that. every film is spun as such or as being on the way to such. But it never seems to happen. Unlike many people I am not in a war with the facts. So if he gets it great for him. What I do like to point out is these silly narratives where he’s the greatest superstar on the planet but because of a roadblock in somewhere in Bombay he missed out on the record. I’d like to say this is a caricature but it isn’t. Or I guess it’s a more intelligent caricature than the kind unwittingly provided by the likes of BOI or some of his fans.
Those absolute blockbusters and numbers of the bygone era are a thing of the past. Audience minds and tastes and the way we live and behave and to be frank the world in general is too complicated for a universal recognition. There are simply too many prejudices for that to happen.
In fact to me PK with its absolute numbers itself never reached its true box-office potential……and then so much has happened in life of Aamir since then that he may be in for a rude shock if ‘Dangal mein Mangal’ sticks a little longer….
I’m not comparing it to blockbusters of the past but PK shouldn’t have been such a hard task, specially if as you say it didn’t live up to its potential. Actually no Salman film has matched Ghajini’s trending let alone 3I’s. So I’m not really using past standards.
This seems a bit startling considering this is a working day release…. ‘pre-release sales record’ is new one !
Sultan Creates History In Advance Sales
Tuesday 05 July 2017 22.30 IST
Sultan has created history in advance sales by taking in sales worth 22-23 crore nett apprx. Prem Ratan Dhan Payo had set records last year with around 15 crore nett in pre release sales. This is the highest amount ever collected pre release and the highest number in ticket solds pre release. Obviously in terms of percentage of tickets sold against the total it is not simply because of the huge number of tickets available..
The figure is a huge 50% above Prem Ratan Dhan Payo though some of this will be because there are more holidays in the weekend for Sultan then there were for Prem Ratan Dhan Payo and its five day period against for a four day period. But on the other side Prem Ratran Dhan Payo had a longer period for the advance due to it releasing one day later than Sultan.
The advance of Sultan is higher than Prem Ratan Dhan Payo in totality and also for the first day which probably means the opening day record of 39.16 crore nett is going to fall and the question by tomorrow evening should be by how much. The bonus will be the benchmark of 40 crore nett is toppled.
As for #sultan my prophesy coming true
100+ in 72 hours
Let’s see 315 + lifetime
Satyam learn to accept facts
True stardom is not the KEEP of
Delayed prolonged release intervals
Nor conditional to xtra special film
Nor to releasing only in xmas after many years wait & such bs
Day 1 will be around 38 crs…The non holiday Hindi record of D3 is around 33 cr and 36 cr including all languages. This will fall even though it is pre-iD.
Adds trade analyst Atul Mohan. “The Sultan producers Yash Raj Films are targeting at widest release for Sultan. Not only in India but overseas also. Audience is hungry for a massy film, which hasn’t come from long time. As we can see from the advance booking that opened on Sunday the ticket prices have been hiked and shows are getting full within few hours. With the long weekend ahead, the film should easily cross more than half of Salman’s previous best collections within five days. No major release for three weeks after its release will make sure it enters the prestigious club of Rs. 300 crores. The content of Bajrangi Bhaijaan ensured that it got good run at the box-office and if Sultan’s content is lapped up by the audience, then new records will be created.” http://www.bollywoodhungama.com/movies/features/type/view/id/10869
The ticket prices are hiked.
He has hit and run case still running. And his not apologizing for his rape remark. Yet he remains Brand Ambassador for Rio Olympics! Incredible India!
Sultan has taken a bumper opening af around 70% on average and this looked on the cards due to the mega advance. The opening is fantastic all over with North, Rajasthan and CI leading. The collections at most places are historic while in UP they are just out of this world with many places in the state going over capacity.
The key is that traditionally weak pockets for Salman Khan like West Bengal and Mysore have opened to a huge response and even these circuits could set records on day one. Tamil Nadu / Kerala could have better but a small circuit like this hardly makes a difference.
It will be surprising if the film does not take the highest opening day ever and crosses the 40 crore nett mark for the first time. The way the film is opened even a crazy 45 crore nett total or higher cannot be written off but will depend how the day plays out and with so many screenings there are always odd show timings in the afternoon and late afternoon which record lower occupancy.
Sultan has given a breather to the industry which has not really seen a film in a long time interest the audience to bring them in initially. It shows the audience is still there but as long as the film looks a proper Hindi film in the commercial format and not poor copies of films from US, Europe and the Far East or films with story telling styles which are alien to majority of the Indian audience.
The early reviews are very good. Looks like it will have appeal to the small cities as well as the metroes due to the wrestling flavour. This might be a monster from early indications. I said Day 1 will be 38 but might well be higher. Infact it has a chance to break the holiday opening of HNY (producer numbers) – around 42 (44.97 inclusive all languages) on a non holiday…
But Sultan is a Salman Khan film made solely for the superstar’s fans. It has everything to please its target audience. It has megahit written all over it.
Superstardom is something which can only be experienced … until unless you have not lived through the madness of tsunami, you can mistaken even small storm as equal or bigger than that tsunami which you never experienced . Before Salman, kids of this generation were cheering for whatever little craze SRK was able to generate in middle of 2000 and comparing him to Amitabh without even knowing what Amitabh was in those 2 decades. After Salman overtaking SRK and now in his peak, even SRK fans got sense that there could be bigger craze than what they earlier thought. And now it is turn of Salman fans who are at mistake thinking if this is biggest ever stardom .. until unless someone bigger comes and show them that superstardom is something else, you are at mistake .. wakeup.
During bachchan time, throughout year, every single day (release or no release) .. in every single city, at least one theater was playing Amitabh movie and drawing all houseful boards …. My 2 cents.
Saying all this, I am enjoying stardom of Salman and feeling proud that even my American friends became his fan, after showing them few of Bollywood stuffs. And now after exploring quite a good number of Bollywood stuff, these Americans friends are surprised seeing good quality entertainer from Bollywood. Some of masala stuff which we generally laughing at are received very positively and enjoyed by them, and I knew this coming. We are hypocrites trashing our own products and endorsing even poor quality Hollywood stuff, just to make a fashion statement.
One doesn’t even have to go that far An Jo. this whole ‘he’s like Bachchan’ comparison that we’ve been hearing about for.. I don’t know.. 3 decades now is rather stale. Remember the SRK folks?! Now it’s certainly fair to say that Salman with his massive initials is closest to that sort of mass model that doesn’t quite exist in Bombay anymore but still does in the South. And as I’ve argued before SRK never ever had this sort of run, nothing even close to it (i.e. as a pure box office matter). Unfortunately it’s dangerous making perfectly reasonable factual claims online because you have the crazies on all sides coming out, people who were either born yesterday or act like they were born yesterday and make all sorts of wild claims that illustrates little more than their utter ignorance of these matters. But with someone like Aamir you have a model in the present. It’s a different thing that he chooses not to do Ghajini 1, 2, 3 or whatever. But the fact that he has this film and those two Hiranis and of course D3 illustrates simply this — huge as Salman is and extraordinary as his run has been he has still not been able to match a) the highest benchmarks of his age (beyond the initial) and b) even the initial is not unique as any number of films prove. I don’t have a huge problem with anyone who wants to call Salman the top star today (even if I would debate this and I myself would put Aamir up there at the very least or even over him for certain reasons) but the craziness derails any reasonable discussion. Then again I better not tempt some of the Akshay fans here who claim he’s not Salman out of choice! Hey why not?! Since the craziness is ok everyone is welcome to theirs!
Anupama Chopra @anupamachopra 6h6 hours ago
So the husband says that my body language changes when I enjoy a film & generally everything becomes sunnier at the Chopra abode!! #Sultan
Anupama Chopra @anupamachopra 4h4 hours ago
When #Sultan ended, I had moist eyes and a big grin. My review : #FilmCompanion
Anupama Chopra liking it might be a better sign than most others in terms of its multiplex trending patterns.. still will have to see it get to the (underperforming!) PK number to believe it.
Sultan is flirting with an all time record on day one. The picture looked pretty clear in the morning with a record looking almost certain on the advance and morning collections. It was looking ro race past the 39 crore nett plus of Prem Ratan Dhan Payo but though it is a national holiday, Eid is eventually going to be tomorrow which has meant a Pre – Eid trend for the film in Muslim centres.
These centres started bumper as the Salman Khan fans came first day first show but the 3pm and 6pm shows were lower being the final day of Ramazan. If it was not for this the film would have set crazy records but this will bring it down more towards the 40 crore nett range. Its going to be a very tight call with the first day of Prem Ratan Dhan Payo, it could beat but also short a little due to the muslin centres in Gujarat, Nizam, CP Berar, UP etc.
An all time record would be just extraordinary but even if it falls it a little short it will phenomenal considering pre Eid. East Punjab which is not really affected by Pre Eid is an all time record by 10-15%, West Bengal also looks a record while other circuits are a close call and it will come down to what figure comes in Mumbai as Prem Ratan Dhan Payo was an extraordinary 14.75 crore nett and that is not easy to beat.
Sultan is the tenth bumper opening this decade after Dabangg, Bodyguard, Agneepath, Ek Tha Tiger, Chennai Express, Dhoom 3, Singham Returns, Happy New Year and Prem Ratan Dhan Payo. It means that less than two films a year manage to achieve the feat and the audience is only coming in hordes when its a national holiday. Only Dhoom 3 out of the above is outside a national holiday and that is an eviable achievement.
These sort of initials were witnessed much more prior to this decade as the holiday film watching culture was less prevalent due to a lower ratio of business coming from multiplexes.
The above list consists of five Salman Khan starrers highlighting his initial draw and dominating of the box office this decade. There are two films for Shahrukh Khan and one each for Aamir Khan, Ajay Devgn and Hrithik Roshan. No other star has managed to get a 20 crore nett plus opening even though we are now talking about 40 nett plus figures which may come with Sultan
Going tonight to watch Sultan.
Happy Eid everyone at SS.
For Madhubala fans-
मत गुज़ारना रमजान के वक़्त किसी मस्जिद के पास से
लोग तुम्हे चाँद समझ कर कहीं रोज़ा ना तोड़ देन
( Mat guzarna Ramzan key waqt kisi Masjid key paas sey, log tumhe channd samajh kar kahin Roza naa tod den !!)
The numbers pouring in are phenomenal. BOI is comparing it with PRDP but rest of trade will compare it with HNYs 44.97 official numbers as BOI had it at a lower number. The movie will be 40 cr at end of day 1 which is huge considering it was not a holiday and pre-I’d. This is better than the 33 cr D3 number on a like to like comparison even if you subtract the part holiday effect of 10perent. Day 2 is holiday for most parts and it has a good chance of challenging the 44.97 official numbers of HNY
You are not taking ticket rates into the account surely tickets of Sultan doesn’t cost u same as Dhoom 3 which was released nearly 3 years ago not to mention this is a relatively bigger release too but yeah i would put this on par with Dhoom 3 .
That’s a fair point. But then D3 was a franchise and is the biggest brand of sequel releasing at the time of Christmas holidays. People underestimate the effect of Pre-ID. Many circuits like UP, Nizam etc don’t perform to optimum during this time. This negates the effect of part holiday in some parts of the state.
Wait for Thursday. Sultan will soar to its actual potential in these circuits as WOM is quite positive.
Day 1 will be around 38 – 40 crs. Day 2 can be above 45 crs. (If there is a drop in Day 2 we know this wont fly much)
Monday will tell us how big this will be.
One more point, the movie is doing sensationally well in Multiplexes. And it is the single screens in some circuits which are lagging behind. So there is still potential to grow today in single screens…and that will happen from today in the circuits of UP and CP. These two circuits specially is all about single screens and are also affected by Pre-ID
I think multiplexes did remarkably well yesterday and acutally helped the film to put up such a huge number .. while i think plexes may see a little drop today even though its Eid .. at the same time i expect single screens to grow .. offcourse i could be totally wrong and it might end up doing 50 cr today not sure about the WOM yet but lets see how it goes .
It’s the widest release ever at around 4350 screens with more than half of India having a full holiday on 6th July. Apart from the fact that Dhoom 3 released almost 3 years ago, nobody talks about Kick opening which was in 26-27 Crores range on a normal day. One ought to factor in the holiday impact and years after which record is broken besides print count, yet these rudimentary things are put aside to present the rosy picture as if these opening day records are never seen before kind of deals! Dhoom 3, PK and even Talaash opened as big as any other movie would have opened on a normal day including any Salman movie, yet trade would present an entirely different picture in reporting the figures using adjectives as if only Salman’s movies open as big! Salman is certainly one of the biggest stars, but with certain limitations as Jai Ho and PRDP showed us where he faltered in opening and final gross!
Dabang was also a big brand yet Dabang 2 dispite getting a Christmas release did not break any opening record which is testimony to genre, word of mouth, director and cast combination being the vital factors behind setting the new opening records. So on a normal day, Salman, Aamir and Shahrukh starrer would open more or less the same.
Komal Nahta @KomalNahta 8h8 hours ago
My estimate of #Sultan day 1: Rs. 43 crore!
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taran adarsh @taran_adarsh 1h1 hour ago
#Sultan [Wed biz / pre-Eid]: ₹ 40 cr+ definitely… 41… 42… 43… It can touch these figures… Final numbers coming up… FANTABULOUS!
taran adarsh @taran_adarsh 1h1 hour ago
The Eid festivities commence from today in India… A HISTORIC 5-day opening weekend is on the cards… #Sultan = HURRICANE at the BO.
Girish Johar @girishjohar 21h21 hours ago
EXCLUSIVE !!! Very early trends for early shows… MAHA BUMPER START to #Sultan @BeingSalmanKhan @AnushkaSharma 😎👏😆🔥
Loved the movie… it will be very big hit if they can delete couple of songs .
Salman owns the movie, and Anoushka has a pretty significant role too.
Aside-Salman Khan says Bharat Mata kee Jai @ Olympics and delivers a strong message !! maza aa gaya !!
Salman reminded me of Dharmendra a lot in this movie !
Salman’s friend also acted very well and had a decent role.
The casting director should get an A +….
It was okay one time watch for me…Bajrangi was far better in terms of emotional connect…Salman is good but he looked old chasing kites…I liked first MMA fight, don’t teach father joke and some other jokes…The main conflict was childish IMO…But movie rode on Salman and many people will overlook the obvious problems. Both fathers were good. Hooda was miscast.
ps – was it me …they used game of thrones tune in slightly different way in background?
I liked Hooda- specially when he asks -yeh Haryana ka jaat hai na ?( the joke -he himself being a Haryanvi jaat in real life)
Anoushka was smoking hot !!
The joke doing the rounds is that since Virat never performed well when she was around, she saw all the big fights of Sallu on TV..lol
Wom on this one is really positive and have not heard even one negative comment within my circle of friends who have watched it and this one is gearing for a long haul.
Unfortunately trade pundits have become too predictable while quoting towering figures……and then coming with modifications later…….Actually the way Eid day has played out in the domestic market is another yo-yo kind of a deal. In my opinion Sunday is where the movie its going to settle down in a big way.
Haha..I thought her performance was patchy..She was good when she was silent and speaking with eyes…
Also she was switching to Hindi in emotional dialogues…
Wow Namrata noticed the same thing I did about Hooda !!
Aside-she is a libtard and can never accept liking this kind of a movie.I bet these sickulars must have had a huge problem in Salman saying Bharat Mata kee jai and doing Namstey in the movie !! LOL!!
Aside 2- (from whatsapp)-
Agar aisey hee chalta raha toh the coming generation will assume that the reason Eid is celebrated is because it’s the day of Sallu Bhai’s film release !!!
The film has fallen short of the All Time Record of Prem Ratan Dhan Payo of 39 crore nett but if we take out the Ramazan factor on fair value the number is much higher and that will mean better hold on the second day as that the Muslim audience comes out today. Basically it was a holiday yesterday but the film has not got the full benefit of the holiday due to Ramazan and that will show up in the next few days as collections hold better than other films coming off a big holiday.
The film has smashed records at multiplexes with most multiplexes recording the highest daily figures they have ever seen for any film but the circuit records are very few as the single screen business is well short of films like Prem Ratan Dhan Payo , Happy New Year and Dhoom 3. The single screen business has kept the figures of Sultan lower than likes of Prem Ratan Dhan Payo in most circuits. http://boxofficeindia.com/art_detail.php?articalid=2134#.V33j15N97BI
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#Sultan proves its SUPREMACY at the BO… Does MIND-BOGGLING biz on Wed [pre-Eid]… Wed ₹ 36.54 cr. India biz.
Lol what a joke all these box office sites are becoming!!! Yes its pre – eid BUT the producer has given a similar total to D3 (3 years ago on a non holiday on lower prints, ticket prices)!
And if yesterday was pre-eid – today is the big day!
Maybe Aamir wrote it into the D3 contract that no film crushes its opening day record – no film from YRF.
“taran adarsh @taran_adarsh 1h1 hour ago
#Sultan [Wed biz / pre-Eid]: ₹ 40 cr+ definitely… 41… 42… 43… It can touch these figures… Final numbers coming up… FANTABULOUS!”
And now just hours later
@taran_adarsh
#Sultan proves its SUPREMACY at the BO… Does MIND-BOGGLING biz on Wed [pre-Eid]… Wed ₹ 36.54 cr. India biz.
The trend today is not great atleast in plexes. Its not a fall but its lesser than yesterday by 20%. So not sure how well it will do from here. But feedback is quite positive but its not reflecting in todays trend
this film is not going to slow down,almost positive reviews everywhere…here in manchester trafford centre its all buzzing and look at the shows viewing…
Initial reports say that theatres are going house-full on Thursday and excellent reviews are just adding to Sultan’s buzz.
According to trade analyst Taran Adarsh, the film has proved its supremacy at the box office with the “mind-boggling” business on day one. Adarsh has predicted a “historic” five-day weekend for the film.
Aamir Khan, as we know only too well, has a soft centre and is easily moved to tears. He watched colleague Salman Khan’s new film Sultan on Wednesday and blubbed through it, just as he did last year after watching Salman’s Bajrangi Bhaijaan and nephew Imran Khan’s Katti Batti.
Just days ago, Aamir criticised Salman’s controversial remark about feeling ‘like a raped woman,’ calling it “rather unfortunate and rather insensitive.” On Thursday, however, the 51-year-old actor had only praise for Salman’s film, which co-stars Anushka Sharma.
Salman plays a wrestler in Sultan, just as Aamir plays real life wrestler Mahavir Phogat in December’s Dangal.
“It’s difficult to compare Bajrangi Bhaijaan and Sultan. Both are very good movies. I don’t compare. But Sultan is outstanding, moving, cried in second half. It is a very inspiring film,” Aamir told reporters on Thursday in Mumbai.
Aamir, who appeared with Salman in 1994’s Andaz Apna Apna, sent him a text after watching Sultan at Yash Raj Studios on Wednesday night.
“I messaged him at night, congratulating him. It deserves success. Sultan will break all records, I am sure,” added Aamir.
Aamir was also fulsome with praise for Salman on Twitter:
Bollywood HungamaVerified account @Bollyhungama 3h3 hours ago
“#Sultan is VERY MOVING, VERY INSPIRING; I cried a lot in second half,” says @aamir_khan
Bollywood HungamaVerified account @Bollyhungama 3h3 hours ago
“For me @BeingSalmanKhan’s #Sultan is OUTSTANDING,” says @aamir_khan
mukesh chhabra CSA @CastingChhabra 6h6 hours ago
After Bajrangi, yet another sensible and sensitive film of @BeingSalmanKhan. Thoroughly enjoyed @aliabbaszafar’s #Sultan
…and this one for you Rocky……….may inspire Madhubala fans again to come with those amazing lines on chand / roza / masjid……
Anushka Sharma @AnushkaSharma 7h7 hours ago
What a way to celebrate Eid! Can’t be better. Thank you for all the love for #Aarfa 🙏🏻 #EidMubarak #Sultan
Don’t wish to spam here, but here it is straight from the horse’s mouth……
Faridoon Shahryar @iFaridoon 4h4 hours ago
.@aamir_khan told media today that if any film can break #PK’s box office record then it has to be #Sultan …
Realistically this is Salman’s third bite at the cherry. Eventually it has to happen. If the 9 day total is more than 200 cr it’s got chances. Maybe something like 210cr, 70cr, 35cr, 15cr + 15cr (rest) gets it there. But all things being equal with the positive WOM and not getting 40 cr yesterday or possibly today think it will be hard to pull it off. Today sounds like it will at best be the same as yesterday but the reports from BO sites are hardly trustworthy as has been proven today with them nearly as much as 10cr off the mark!!! Like we are being led to believe it will be 35cr today and out of nowhere it could be 45cr. Who the f knows. Only Monday can confirm its chances.
I suspect though Aamir is being quite generous to his buddy. And he’s the only one to know how much of mistake or opportunity Dangal is at this stage.
I think based on the morning shows they made those extravagant claims. Clearly the film was weaker than expected in the evening shows. Now dropping 20% on a Sat is not unusual for many films but if you’re looking to be biggest absolute grosser that might be a problem. It should stabilize overall but this is not about relative multiplex strength. It’s about going from strength to strength for days.
But on the larger point everyone loves making the oldest claims about the numbers and then either pretending that whether it’s 35 or 45 it’s equally record-breaking or saying ‘oh evening shows didn’t pan out’ or something. But since this happens with so many big films, and actually the vast majority of those that do become big grossers, what’s the reason for this amnesia every single time?!
Good uptick in evening shows all over but still looks like an overall 5 to 10 percent drop from yesterday. In the morning it was looking like a higher drop though
A tweet from Aamir is very unconvincing. I mean this is the guy who starred in Lagaan & 4-6 record openers & 4 total WW record grossers. Why trust him now???
A bit of a bittersweet moment to see Rahul Dravid with grey hair on the sides. Having said that, it probably adds another layer to his distinguished appearance. And of course, he’s always a joy to listen to!
Yeah, he’s pretty much my all time favourite cricketer as well. His clarity of thought makes me think he could not only coach the Indian cricket team but also the Indian Hockey team, Football team, you name it 🙂
When the Azhar match-fixing case came to light,I like most other Indian cricket fans had given up on cricket for a while. Little did I know that we’d be blessed with exceptional heroes in the form of Dravid, Tendulkar, Laxman, Kumble and Sehwag in the years to come. There was more to follow, later, in the form of Dhoni as well.
Back to Dravid, he’s got a great sense of humour too. Watch this as he trolls Ganguly on air!
Now that I think about my reply, seems a bit harsh to leave out Ganguly from my list of favourite cricketers. I did admire his pluck ,from a distance, but I was never a true fan. Perhaps it was his ego, his inability to conform to the more modern demands of the game (fitness mainly; his inability to cope with short-pitched deliveries as well) that never persuaded me to be his fan. He truly acted like he was a ‘prince’ (or at least gave the impression that he was one)…that wasn’t very cool either.
Ditto. I don’t think I dislike Ganguly but some of the accolades are over stated. Mainly by people who have seen selective cricket.
I have seen him when he used to score 70s as opener using 100-120 balls when Tendulkar was the faster one. His inability to handle balls on leg side. His batting improved later in career. Even in captaincy, I think he brought fearlessness in approach but there was no strategy.
Since I’ve had some time to kill, thought about posting some random thoughts on the Box Office.
1) Assuming an average price of INR 100 per ticket, the maximum number of tickets sold for PK is around 3.4 crores. That’s less than 3% of the total Indian population! It makes intuitive sense that as the Indian economy expands, we’ll see much bigger opening day/final totals.
2) People give too much significance to the final figures of a film. It makes more sense to look at the opening day (as a measure of hype, stardom etc) and the final total;then divide the latter by the former. For example: PK has a FT (Final Total)/OD (Opening Day) ratio of 12.44; Fan has a ratio of 4; Bajirao Mastani has a ratio of 14.5; Dilwale has a ratio of roughly 7; PRDP stands at roughly 5, and so on. The obvious conclusion is that the higher the ratio, the better is its public reception! Not a ground-breaking conclusion by any means, but it makes comparisons much easier. One can easily see that compared to PK and Bajirao, the other films have fared much worse in terms of public perception.
3) Point #2 above has a caveat: one needs to properly contextualize the FT-OD ratios. These ratios will have different meanings for ‘small’ films vis-à-vis big films. By small I mean films which are intended for a niche audience. A Wednesday, for example, will have a ridiculously high FT-OD ratio (>100) compared to a film like PK or Bajrangi. It makes more sense to club films together which have similar final totals. Alternatively, one could look at films within a certain range: e.g. 0-50 Crores, 50-100 Crores, 100-150 Crores etc.
4) There are obviously more sophisticated methods to analyze Box Office Data, even if it’s incomplete and open to debate. One could look at Bell curves, probability distributions (there are many to choose from) and then form an informed opinion, but the above method is a quick and dirty way to look at a film’s overall reception…and start comparing films. Let the fun begin…
Regarding #3, one could categorize films based on genre, holiday/non-holiday releases as well. The point is, one should get a more realistic feel for box office numbers. Would save a lot of bandwidth on the internet and also on this blog as well!
Another point of contention is the PK vs Bajrangi debate. It’s somehow considered a failing on Salman’s part (see disclaimer below) that the latter fell short of the former. Unless one considers Raju Hirani at the same level as Kabir Khan, this isn’t a fair comparison.
Any sane person would agree that PK = Aamir + Hirani whereas Bajrangi = Salman. Kabir Khan released Phantom just after Bajrangi and the results were pretty ordinary.
Raju Hirani, on the other hand, gave one of the biggest hits of 2006 with a Box Office has-been, Sanjay Dutt. Moreover, LRM trended better than 3 Idiots and PK. Munnabhai MBBS trended even better than LRM.
Unless one considers all these points together, how can one do a fair comparison?
Obligatory disclaimer: I’m not a Salman fan; don’t watch his films and will not watch Sultan either. I don’t own a dog in these Box Office fights; in fact, I’m quite a big Aamir fan, but in the interest of fairness, let’s not side-line certain facts…
To make it simple.. whole industry accepts and mentioned in various interviews that BB has sold more tickets than PK and possibly the highest tickets sold in last decade! That matters something!
We can consider BB’s 320 crore is almost as good as PK’s 340 crores. Its not that big of a lead for a longer holiday release(PK released on Dec 19 and had lot of Christmas and New year holidays to make drop little less in 2nd and 3rd weeks whereas BB had regular following working weeks with no holidays at all).
“Whole industry accepts”.. whatever! Leaving this aside I’d be happy to accept this point if it were applied fairly to lots of other films. Has anyone checked how many tickets Ghajini sold for example?! It actually did hugely well in a lot of smaller centers. These points only come up very selectively. I myself have said some of these things in the past. But no one was interested. Somehow it’s hard to miss the narrative that when Aamir does it it’s nothing special, someone else can always do it. And when others miss the mark then there are all these special points to be made. Before competing with the absolute totals why aren’t these disclaimers attached. Why are these brought only after the film ‘fails’? Beyond this why not make the much more obvious point that to cross a film’s total one year or two years or three or four years later also isn’t particularly creditable for some of the reasons Saket has pointed out. So there’s simply bad faith in applying these arguments selectively. And now back to the game!
Btw, there is only 6-7 months between PK and BB. Also tickets sold usually comes only when there is another movie closing in on the highest grosser. But to make it more clear I feel both D3 and PK performed less than its potential and BB reached it max potential and at the best could have added more 5-10 crores. D3 could have easily been the 1st 300 crore grosser and PK could have crossed 350 easily and touch 375 crores if there was not that minority unhappy with the movie (unlike 3 Idiots).
PK performed marginally better than Bajrangi if we look at FT-OD ratios (12.44 vs 11.85). Don’t think it underperformed in any way.
Dhoom 3 on the other hand has an FT-OD ratio of 8 (all numbers from BOI, fyi), which indicates only an above-average acceptance response. Had it been liked as much as PK, it would have made more than 400 crores! So, in short, Dhoom 3 did not have the potential to do more, based on its final WOM.
watching the exciting Germany-France game at the moment. Will get back to some of this later. Speaking for myself my PK point is against those who don’t discover such subtlety except when they’re playing favorites. I don’t disagree with too much that you’re saying but I’ve been polemicizing against some rather opportunistic fans here.
Not sure if you referred me but I have no favorites between PK and BB. I can easily see why PK is highest gross but personally I liked BB more. I am as fair I can be in these 2 movies. I didn’t even bring this discussion but adding to Saket’s point.
I was going through slippery slopes and how arguments can be twisted to suit one’s theory. Very interesting and hairsplitting too.
When one takes only one example in a long career of A, then B who has more than 5 films which were much more appreciated besides being boxoffice hits too. So who is the real winner here? Both have almost the same career span.
And what is that excuse that Raju Hirani is a franchise like Dhoom and so PK hit is not a great deal and so Aamir Khan who starred in PK is incidental and Hirani is the real winner. In that case, one must accept Hirani is lesser than Kabir Khan who made a better film. So the credit must go to Kabir Khan than Salman Khan if we stretch this argument further.
And the disclaimer is unnecessary as we all know
Saket is impartial and comes to conclusions based on his calculations. Ultimately it should be Hirani versus Kabir Khan than Salman Khan versus Aamir Khan because both are incidental. PK could have been done by Salman and BB could have been done by Aamir.
Actually, PK would never have Salman in it. Raju Hirani picked Aamir for a reason. Hirani did make Munnabhai films with Sanjay Dutt but by picking Aamir he took his box office performance to another level. I don’t think he ever thought of Salman as an option.
Regarding Bajrangi, there’s no doubt it had a fantastic performance at the BO (FT-OD ratio: 11.85) but so far, this film is the exception in Salman’s line-up. PRDP, for instance, had a FT-OD ratio of 5 even though it made close to 200 crores. His films start big but fizzle out sooner than later.
Aamir, with the exception of Talaash has had consistently high FT-OD ratios. His films, in the long run, are appreciated more compared to any other star.
Day 2 will be in the same range as Day 1 as the evening and night shows were better than Day 1 though the morning shows were lower than day 1. SS are very good and multiplexes performed well after evening..
Just back from the movie. To put it simply, this is gonna be huge winner for Salman Khan. It has potential to go near or over 300 crores but that little bit special feeling is missing like BB so I don’t think it will pass it. Overall, movie belongs to Salman Khan with his die-hard spirited performance. He has put his heart and soul in the movie and never looked lazy or dis-interested. This is 2nd time after BB where he showed his dedication(no need to think about talent but he’s good as he can in commercial format actor). Anushka is great in a smaller role and managed to speak Haranyvi accent good(though in some scenes accent wasn’t great). The songs were alright but the 2 lines title track which keeps coming in the movie every 15 mins absolutely rocks and builds up the tempo.
Haven’t read any reviews tlil now.. but this is a predictable movie and ideas borrowed from all great movies (lot of Rocky in it..) but eventually managed to deliver a proper hindi commercial venture. Ali Zafar has stretched his ability and deliveres finally a complete film and lot better than flawed Gunday(though I like his 1st movie Mere Brother ki..). The way it is shot and presented demands it to be watched on big screen, it should do unprecented business in interiors and have a longer shelf life on TV. There was lot of minor masala things which although predictable, director didn’t miss the punches and eventually everything helps in aiding to the culmination well.
If there is Any Movie that Can Beat PK’s Business, then it is Sultan – Aamir Khan
On Sultan, Aamir said, “It is an outstanding film. Kamaal ki film banayi hai. Kahani bahot hi jazbaati hai. Music bahot badhiya. Salman ne bahot behtareen kaam kiya hai. Anushka ne bhi. Film aisi hai jo dil ko chu jaati hai. Aapko entertain karti hai. It inspires you. Har cheez jo aap dhundte ho achi mainstream film main, wo isme hai. Mujhe lagta hai yeh film bahot hi kamyab hogi. Yeh bahot acha tohfa diya hai Salman Khan sahab ne. Congratulations to the entire team. – Ali, Salman and Anushka. Mujhe lagta hai ki yeh PK ka business agar koi film todegi, toh wo yeh film hogi
(It is a very well made movie with an emotional story line. The music of the movie is amazing. Salman has done some exceptional work and even Anushka. Sultan will touch your hearts. It entertains and inspires you. Whatever you want in a mainstream movie, is present in this film. I think this film will do great business. Salman has given a great gift to all his fans on Eid. If there is any movie that can beat PK’s business then it is Sultan.)
I also think option 2. I think people who have allergy to blood may avoid it. As I have said, the emotional connect is not there like Bajrangi. They tried but IMO, it is manufactured and nor organic like Bajrangi.
Looking at Hirani’s films, who’s by far the most successful director in present day Bollywood, one can surmise a few things:
1) Humor sells. Not crass humor, which has its limits, but genuine, family-friendly humor acts as a big audience hook. Anurag Kashyap’s films are also full of dark humor but that’s not everyone’s cup of tea (in fact, hardly anyone’s cup of tea!)
2) Humor + emotional message = big win. This also explains why a film like Oh My God did so well.
3) Films, hindi films in particular, need a big star. Add the star to #1 & #2 and you’ve suddenly got a very potent Box Office combination.
This doesn’t mean that other films aren’t good…far from it. The above factors only explain what’s considered to be “good” by a majority of the audience. Individual choices will differ, and indeed they should differ, otherwise it’d be the end of cinema as we know it.
Adding to point #3, Hirani + Aamir is a match made in heaven because they both display similar traits. While Hirani is a master at weaving an emotional yarn with dollops of humor added to the mix, Aamir is also famous for his choice of cerebral scripts. They both complement each other very well. They both have the tendency to generate positive WOM as well.
The odd thing about Hirani is that his musical sense is pretty average, to put it mildly. There are hardly any memorable songs in his films, and yet his films end up being such huge grossers. That’s a testament to his enormous skill (for lack of a better word) as a filmmaker who can connect to a wide range of audience, time and time again!
Actually its good that Raees moved away from clash. There is no way in the world it could top Sultan as a mainstream film or boxoffice returns. Maybe Raees could have been more critically acclaimed but no way it can bring the audience away from Sultan. Infact, I would think no other film in 2016(including Dangal) could be released around Sultan and yet managed to make its mark in opening week. Sultan is perfect Salman holiday release with the star at its peak and YRF backing the movie.
Sultan has had another huge day which should come out in the 35 crore nett range. It is slightly harder to judge than normal weeks as different circuits behave very differently due to the period so early collections have a bit more margin for error but what is clear is that there is not that drop that happens on the day after Eid. Also there is no precedence with Eid falling like it has.
Normally its around 15-20% fall but as the national Eid holiday fell on the last day of Ramazan which meant the film could get the full effect of the holiday so this has bennefited the film on day two and the fall will be minimal if there is one when final collections come tomorrow.
The first day record breaking circuits of East Punjab and Mysore are looking to drop 15% while other circuits will show minimal drops while Delhi / UP and Nizam / Andhra are looking at gains. If Gujarat / Saurashtra can gain the figure can get very close to the opening day figure. Basically the film was looking at a national holiday and a partial holiday in the first two days but with Eid coming late it has meant two partial holidays.
The target now for the film is the highest weekend in the history of Hindi cinema which at the moment is with Bajrangi Bhaijaan at 101.42 crore nett and another 30 crore nett plus day on Friday will take it there.
BOI will update that 35 cr figure upwards. The Day 2 numbers coming in from some centres are huge and 20% more than Day 1. Specially the central India. Delhi and Mumbai will decide how much bigger than Day 1 this is. Some single screens in central India have tripled their Day 1 numbers. The post ID upsurge is evident in entire central India and UP. This is looking like anywhere between 37 to 40 crores now for Day 2
krish,
i thought you said there was a drop from day 1,looks like it beat the the day 1,there is no stopping for this blockbuster,its a huge for salman khan…..
Sultan did excellent business on day two with business set to be very close to the first day with business in the 35-36 crore nett region. The two day business will be in the 72 crore nett region. The film has actually gained in North India, Central India and Nizam / Andhra but when the final collections come from Mumbai circuit later on they will take the all India total a little lower than the first day.
Normally there is a 15-20% drop on the day after the Eid holiday but here there is hardly a drop as Eid actually fell a day later than the official holiday had been announced. This is also why the collections are all over the place with each circuit behaving differently depending on the holiday situation..
It is looking as per early estimates that it is the second time that a film has managed to score two days over 35 crore nett. The first being Bajrangi Bhaijaan last year which was over 35 crore nett on Saturday and Sunday. Dhoom 3 is the only film to score three days of over 30 crore nett and that is what Sultan can do or maybe even one better and a historic 4 or even 5 days of over 30 crore nett. But that will depend on where the films lands today.
The business is excellent all over but it is record breaking in East Punjab while Delhi / UP is playing catch up due to day one being Ramazan but the film is looking set for a fantastic run in North India. It was historic in North India on day two with business similar to Prem Ratan Dhan Payo record breaking day one. CI amd Nizam / Andhra also created history with the highest figures ever for any day in both circuits.
Mudith Gupta, Managing Partner of Emgee Properties, filed the suit against Khan before senior Civil Division Court in Goa, Gupta’s lawyer Ranjith Shetty told PTI.
The court has fixed July 20 as the date of hearing.
Emgee Properties has already filed a complaint with Panaji police against Khan for alleged fraud of Rs 1.87 crore. Khan has challenged the FIR before Goa Bench of the Bombay High Court.
However, in a twist to the case, Gupta filed defamation suit against Khan citing various media statements made by her against him.
“Khan has issued statements through media that Gupta is trying to bully her. He is trying to pressurise her being a single mother. She has also said that the firm wanted to take some cheap architect,” Shetty said.
“Such statements have forced us to file a defamation suit against her to the tune of Rs 15 crore before Senior Civil Court in Panaji,” the lawyer said.
Panaji police had registered an FIR against Sussanne on June 9 after a real estate firm filed a complaint against her for allegedly cheating them to the tune of Rs 1.87 crore by posing as an architect. She had been booked under section 420 (cheating and dishonestly inducing delivery of property) of IPC.
Gupta had, in the complaint before police, alleged that she represented herself as an architect and designer, and in September 2013, the company executed a written contract with her “for architectural and designing services”.
The complaint stated that she failed to submit the requisite design in a stipulated period of time and that the designs submitted by her were not of professional standards.
The company alleged that she failed to execute the project based in Goa, thus cheating the firm of around Rs 1.87 crore, which was paid between September 21, 2013 to February 20, 2015.
Sussanne has dubbed the allegations against her as “false” and “defamatory” and a pressure tactic by the firm.
This is a must read review by Rangan , Maza aa gaya !!!
Some great lines from Rangan’s review-
1.Hence the non-MNC-ness of the brands that pop up in his wrestling career: Escort tractors, Kukreja pressure cookers. I was especially intrigued by two scenes. The first time we see Sultan, it’s during a wrestling match, and the crowds screaming his name are waving saffron and green flags. A nod to the star’s pan-Indian, pan-religious popularity?
2.Anushka Sharma is so good (she does brittleness very well), she makes us sense emotions that the script doesn’t spell out: resentment, perhaps even jealousy.
3.There are two great scenes with Sultan and Aarfa, one at a dargah, one at a hospital – I was surprised at how well Zafar modulated the melodrama.
4.As with Sunjay Dutt, I get the feeling that real-life troubles have had a part to play in the actor’s performances. Salman is a graver presence on screen. He projects maturity, even melancholy. It’s a real conundrum. The worse he behaves off-screen, the better his films seem to get.
and finally,
5. It’s impossible to separate Sultan from Salman, Salman from Sultan.the innocent with such a “saaf dil” that “Jo man mein aata hai, keh deta hoon.” Sultan is speaking to Aarfa (Anushka Sharma), but isn’t he really addressing the National Commission for Women? The knowledge that Sultan’s screenplay was written long before the NCW decided to haul him up for his remark about rape does little to dispel these resonances.
Good review by Rangan! The most surprising part about Sultan personally for me the ‘stillness’ of the movie. It never looked a movie which was started in December and Anushka only joining after 1 schedule in January and they managed to wrap such a long movie easily with lot of different locations, MMA style matches, lot of training by Salman Khan in outdoor locations etc in less than 6 months flat. It doesn’t look like a ‘project’ per se but a linear old-fashioned story narrated with lot of care and time and made over a year and not something to wrap quickly to meet the Eid release date!
Also, more importantly it doesn’t look like a project put up just to steal limelight from Dangal quickly. “At least on screen” it looks a film made with lot of time and effort. The director(Ali Abbas Zafar)’s last movie, Gunday, released in Feb 2014 and he has written story, screenplay, dialogues alone for Sultan and it takes time for such a huge project.
Shobhaa De @DeShobhaa 18h18 hours ago
Sultan:Satisfying all the way. Salman is the Sultan of Bollywood now. Anushka was feisty and tender, Randeep,terrific.300 crore hit.Pucca!
Ragini Khanna Actress @iraginikhanna 4h4 hours ago
Saw #sultan amidst100 people dancin in theatre showering confetti&money. @BeingSalmanKhan Aap Itne ache ho film mein,am at a loss of words🙏🏼
Girish Johar @girishjohar 2h2 hours ago
Can #Sultan do a 30crs + every day for its 1st 5 days …it looks like …if it does…no other film EVER his done it so far …HUUUUUGE !!!
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Girish Johar @girishjohar 2h2 hours ago
Bhai chasing Bhai #Sultan is poised to cross nett 100crs tday chasing fastest record of 100crs in 3dys by #BajrangiBhaijaan @BeingSalmanKhan
Amar Butala @amarbutala 2h2 hours ago
#Sultan grows even bigger on day 2! Thurs is a massive 37.25 cr.! The film is unstoppable! @BeingSalmanKhan @AnushkaSharma @aliabbaszafar
sabina lamba @SabinaLamba 2h2 hours ago
#Sultan weeknd almost certain 2 b record nw as it goes past 100cr,2 become only d 2nd film 2 hit century n 3days after
#BajrangiBhaijaan-BOI
Bollywood HungamaVerified account @Bollyhungama 4h4 hours ago Mumbai, India #BoxOffice @BeingSalmanKhan & @AnushkaSharma ‘s #Sultan collects Rs. 37.20 cr on (Eid) Day 2. Total Rs. 73.74 cr.
Himachal man surprises wife by booking an entire 120-seat theatre for Sultan HT Correspondent, Hindustan Times | Updated: Jul 08, 2016 11:43 IST
Geetanjali from Himachal Pradesh’s Hamirpur is a big fan of Salman Khan and when her husband Shankar Musafir bought tickets for the Bollywood star’s latest flick, Sultan, she thought it would be just another day.She was, however, in for a big surprise.
Musafir booked the entire 120-seat ARV Cinemas in Gurukul Mall a day before the release of the film about an ageing wrestler so that Geetanjali and he could watch the show on the first day.
“When Bajrangi Bhaijaan was released, Geetanjali asked me to get five tickets for the show. But I could not arrange it. Now, I decided to surprise her by booking the entire show,” Musafir, an alumnus of Delhi’s Jawaharlal Nehru University, said.
New Delhi-based educationist Musafir married Geetanjali in April this year. “I am so happy. I don’t think anybody has given such a surprise to his wife in Hamirpur,” Geetanjali said.
Amit Thakur, the managing director of the mall, said that Musafir booked all the seats in the theatre and told him he will come with 120 people.
“But we were surprised to find that he came only with his wife,” he added.
Sultan has continued to create history on day three as the film will record three consecutive days of 30 crore nett plus business as it grosses in the range of 33 crore nett on day three. Again Eid is still on in various circuits so its and up and down scenario and final all India number will depend on where the final Mumbai figures comes out in the morning. The hold is phenomenal in Delhi / UP and Nizam / Andhra.
What is clear is that the trend is better than normal for the the third day after Eid holiday as its normally a 20% drop but here its looking to more closer to 10%. Eid falling late may be a reason for this but that will only be known over next two days.
The only film to collect over 30 crore nett in three consecutive days before was Dhoom 3 which grossed a that time record 98 crore nett while Sultan has gone to a phenomenal 106-107 crore nett. This is an all time record opening three day opening weekend beating the numbers of Bajrangi Bhaijaan which were 101.42 crore nett.
The century mark in three days has only been hit by two films Sultan and Bajrangi Bhaijaan, both Eid releases and both Salman Khan starrers.
satish kaushik @satishkaushik2 7h7 hours ago
Uff what a film #Sultan @BeingSalmanKhan what a great performance..u r like a raging bull..unstoppable..hats off to the makers and the crew
Vijender Singh @boxervijender 5h5 hours ago
@SultanTheMovie Kya Kamal wah Bhai man ge 👌 @BeingSalmanKhan Uk me bhe dhmal 😄
Faridoon Shahryar @iFaridoon 9h9 hours ago
Watching #Sultan the 2nd time around was an even better experience..more claps n whistles..this time in the MMA fights in d 2nd half..
Siddhartha Basu @babubasu 1h1 hour ago
Fine performances by the supporting cast is a hallmark of #Sultan. #Anant Sharma as Govind is outstanding
Sultan sets a benchmark for getting the technique right: A sports writer’s perspective
The first few minutes of the movie Sultan are sheer madness. The deafening cheers in the theatre make it hard to focus on what unfolds on the screen. It was no different from what usually happens in front of the screen for a Salman Khan movie, but what happened behind was definitely a break from the usual, or as Indian Express movie critic Shubhra Gupta pointed out, “Salman breaking free from bhai-giri bondage”.
Sports biopics have been criticised for the misrepresentation of the game on the screen. It’s easy for the actors to get in shape for the role, but giving shape to the role is what counts, especially in movies like Sultan.
The challenge was a stiff one for someone like Salman. Yes, he has a decent physique and has inspired plenty to stay in shape in the industry, but the demands and techniques of wrestling are not as easy as ‘Sultan’ pulls them off – first in a tiny ‘langot’ in the ‘akhada’ then in proper gear on the mat. Anushka Sharma was the real talking point when it comes to executing the moves but we will come to her later.
The highlight of the movie, for me, was the way Salman delivered the ‘Sultan slam’. So it started with the ‘German Suplex’ – something which we have seen WWE stars Kurt Angle and Brock Lesnar enthrall the spectators with numerous times – and ended with the drop that pinned the opponent.
Clearly the writer of this this piece has seen a totally different movie or writing a column just for the heck of it just to fill up some space. She was shown a modern , strong, independent woman with a mind of her own and always in charge.
Wow this guy has a stick up his a**. just watched the movie and it’s not at all anti women equality and to blame Anushka, really wtf? It’s almost just as extreme blaming her when Virat gets out cheaply.
It’s a actually a very smartly constructed Salman film with a lot of desiness that will appeal both to the interiors and multiplex audience. Very long but I could have sat longer.
SRK really needs a prestige hit at this point, even Salman has left him far behind!!
This is clearly a better movie than BB and can easily be slotted for a repeat watch. This a first complete movie of Salman after Wanted for me with hardly any visible flaw. After a long time i watched a movie without getting restless for even a small moment. Bajrangi Bhaijaan was nice, but was uplifted to a great extent by the innocence of the mute girl character which concealed some of its flaws.
Rangan has perfectly reviewed the movie in terms of the movie itself and also the outer politics / personal demons assigned in Salman’s world.
What a great movie and value wise , this an ultimate in Hindi movie entertainment. Hats off to Anushka for bringing so much authenticity to her character. She is naturally gifted like Kajol and there is nothing fake about any of her emotions in the movie. Perfect support cast and ace direction.
Came back after watching 2nd time. Totally loved it. Went with huge group and everyone loved it. This will break PK’s record without much struggle IMO.
True GGM will hurt it both at multiplexes and single screens. It will lose screens to it as well as Madaari. Even 1 open week would have helped but Sultan doesn’t have that.
When Dallas police used a bomb-carrying robot to kill a sniper, they also kicked off an ethical debate about technology’s use as a crime-fighting weapon.
In what appears to be an unprecedented tactic, police rigged a bomb-disposal robot to kill an armed suspect in the fatal shootings of five officers in Dallas. While there doesn’t appear to be any hard data on the subject, security experts and law enforcement officials said they couldn’t recall another time when police have deployed a robot with lethal intent.
The strategy opens a new chapter in the escalating use of remote and semi-autonomous devices to fight crime and protect lives. It also raises new questions over when it’s appropriate to dispatch a robot to kill dangerous suspects instead of continuing to negotiate their surrender.
“If lethally equipped robots can be used in this situation, when else can they be used?” says Elizabeth Joh, a University of California at Davis law professor who has followed US law enforcement’s use of technology. “Extreme emergencies shouldn’t define the scope of more ordinary situations where police may want to use robots that are capable of harm.”
Dallas Police chief David Brown defended his department’s decision. “Other options would have exposed our officers to great danger,” he said.
Dallas Mayor Mike Rawlings applauded Brown for making “the right call” and said he would have no qualms about resorting to the same strategy in the future. “When there’s no other way, I think this is a good example,” he said. “The key thing is to keep our police out of harm’s way.”
In Salman’s case, thousands of us rushed to condemn him on social media but didn’t question the presence of the same patriarchy in our lives–we didn’t think of when we make casual sexist jokes, when we inadvertently make workplaces unsafe for women, when we reduce women to their looks in engineering and scientific institutes and when we make it impossible for women to step out and enjoy public spaces.
We bandied the word ‘rape culture’ about and berated Salman for furthering it, but didn’t think about the WhatsApp forwards in our phones that are as offensive as Salman’s comments. We didn’t wonder if watching movies with the same violent language and actions will bolster a culture where sexual violence is seen as a legitimate tool to silence women.
But the second and more important take-away is that it never helps to put all the blame on individuals for prejudices in our society’s structures. Salman Khan was a prominent target and it is important to condemn his words but such critique will do little to smash patriarchy if the words don’t shape our actions. So the next time we condemn a celebrity bad boy, maybe we will spare some time to question the insidious everyday misogyny and patriarchy that so many of us benefit from.
Maybe we will think about making our public spaces safer, calling out colleagues who leer or are sexist or complain against teachers who abuse or harass students. But more importantly, maybe we will start thinking of patriarchy as a structure that oppresses a vast section of women and non-binary, LGBT folks instead of individual acts.
Sultan was excellent again on day three with business of 31.50 crore nett apprx as per early estimates which has taken its three day weekend business to around the 105 crore nett which is an all time record for Hindi cinema. The drop on day three is 15% which is excellent as its coming of a holiday period though in some parts the Eid factor is still helping collections and this will ease slowly over the weekend.
The film is still going up and down in the various circuits and it will be Monday that the circuits will come done to the more normal ratios. On day three Mumbai, Rajasthan and Nizam / andhra all held very well, Delhi / UP was phenomenal as it did better than the first day while East Punjab which smashed all records in the first two days had the biggest drop.
The third day has ensured the film is the biggest hit of the year although thats not really saying much when Airlift, the biggest hit of the year prior to Sultan only did well only in the main cities meaning its hardly competition for a real Hindi film like Sultan.
Its difficult to say where the collections will go today as there is no precedence in the recent past to how Eid has fallen and then the fourth day being a Saturday which is a day where some circuit shows healthy gains. But here its not the second day but fourth day which should makes gains harder.
…and he remains my favorite all time cricketers which probably has Imran, Kapil, Viv Richards and McGrath to name a few. In Sultan context he is a real son of the soil and I can easily imagine him with ‘ Khoon mein tere mitti Mitti mein tera khoon.’
We may have all played galli cricket and at times due to constraints of awkward field, broken bat or make shift arrangements came up with ‘jugaadu’ shots to get the job done…..and Dhoni took one of those innovation to international level in the form of his famous ‘Helicopter shot’.
But his greatest gift to Indian cricket which we as nation lacked even after having so many superstars was to play ‘selfless’ game focused towards winning. Since we are talking about Harsha Bhogle one of his famous quotes was – “if Dhoni plays till the end, one thing is for sure, he will make his team win”
let’s say that with both Bajrangi and this one I was ‘persuaded’ by larger groups to watch the film. Which still proves the point though since no one was persuading anyone for Prem Ratan..! Seriously though I did enjoy Bajrangi but wouldn’t have seen it on my own. For a number of years now unless it’s an Aamir film or a good Abhishek one (since he’s been doing this ‘other’ stuff for some time!) or something with his father (saw Piku twice) I generally don’t watch any kind of Hindi film on my own. Even at home I probably watch no more than 6-10 Hindi films every year. My interest in ‘Bollywood’ is pretty close to zero.
I haven’t seen the movie so cannot comment. But I am getting the feeling from the reviews that this movie’s strengths are being over-blown. And I am talking of the ‘rationalists’ here. Not ‘fans.’ BB hit the right spots and though not great by any standards, it was intriguing and held interest throughout, mainly, for me, by Nawaz’s outstanding comic turn. I am mentally too old to get turned on by the ‘cute’, ‘deaf-mute’ girl emotional manipulations.
None of the critics, except BR, seem to have fulsomely praised this one. Everybody has complained of the length, some shoddy editing, etc., etc.,. I didn’t read this kind of stuff for BB. Everybody was pleased with the movie over-all. Here, it only seems to be Salman-porn and Anushka.
I of course would always trust BR over any other critic but he has his weak spots too, as his review of 24 revealed. Rushed to the movie based on his review but apart from a few, very few masala moments and a spirited performance from Surya, it was an over-blown, over-bloated mess of a movie. And way, way, too long. That idiotic romantic angle of Surya playing with time to impress the lady literally gave me the nails-on-the-black-board feeling. Shekhar Kapur’s MR. India, and then a distant second, ROBOT, to me, remain the pinnacle of sci-fi merged with masala on Indian celluloid. [Of course, I have tremendous weakness for all the oldie Kishore’s ‘invisible-man’ films like MR. X IN BOMBAY.]
I have never been interested, as you, in checking out Salman in theater. Except DABAANG, which I truly enjoyed like a comic-masala-book, I haven’t seen a single Salman movie in theater, and intend not to. He is too off-putting as a being ‘in-human’ human off-screen and extremely ordinary as an actor on-screen to invest my money and time in.
And also, it is just that I grew older and wiser tasting the lion’s blood. When Amitabh has whetted your appetite with a full-course meal not merely as a star but a rare combination of an exemplary star-actor, why go for the starters?
agreed An Jo.. I’d be shocked if this were half as good as Bajrangi which itself I didn’t find stunning (!). In fairness I didn’t find PK or 3I stunning either (though preferred both to Bajrangi.. 3I was certainly superior to both, i.e. relative to what each film was trying to do) for those here who think I’m unnecessarily soft on Aamir’s films (in Hollywood terms if you’re a Leo fan and like most of his films because he works with the right directors most of the time or does that sort of sensible stuff while someone else likes Vin Diesel you don’t exactly have the burden of proof on yourself but with Bollywood fans its the opposite.. but on Aamir’s films I’d take Talaash over both of his Hirani efforts.. maybe I’m the only person on the planet to have this view but there it is!).
We know and read so much about movies and the hype that a lot of time expectations kill the fun so I would still suggest going in with normal /usual expectations.
Can’t say much on box-office & ‘conspiracies’ ( lol ) , but there is no past precedent of extra ordinary trending for a big ticket ‘liked’ movie during normal days…(not talking about Queen, Piku type of movies) . Due to heavy duty ticketing prices in India , the only real time trending of such big movies is only witnessed at Christmas / New Year time where holidays keeping popping up by the dozen and the holiday mood magnify the movie going experience. Last year we witnessed Bajirao Mastani another liked movie taking big jumps on numerous holidays to get to that gigantic total. PK, Ghajini and 3 Idiots have done that.
We are living in different time and though there is no comparisons to be made here , sometime one feels even Amitabh himself wouldn’t be able to replicate half of what he did since he fit in the times he ruled. Abhishek is a perfect replica of Bachchan in terms of his build, stride , voice etc and could easily maneuver us with a U.P …..ite bhaiyya swagger but those things don’t work anymore…..similarly SRK had found the right groove with his romantic take filled with Indian economical rise / globalized India.
Times have changed otherwise we would be replacing The Godfather each year with current releases.
** sometime one feels even Amitabh himself wouldn’t be able to replicate half of what he did since he fit in the times he ruled. **
I guess that explains the fact that Amitabh ruled from ’73 to ’90. And that he invented himself in the ‘millennium’ after being handled by directors who just didn’t know what to do with him from mid-’90s to 2000 and his resurgence post 2000 that warranted this article..
And as I said before, let Salman attempt even a 1000th of watered-down stardom the way Hrishikesh and Basu and Shakti used him in their films, and then we can talk…
Let’s see where Salman and SRK end up at 60 +. I see only Aamir making that bridge based on his penchant for not resorting to self-porn but always being a sub-set of a film…
Oh no! That’s a fallacy! They are so much more than you credit them for and have already played a very long inning by any bollywood standards. I remember towards late 90s and early 2000s many were already writing their obituaries as they had already long over played their lover boy image /roles. Their diminutive build / stature itself was hindrance to get into any other genre or action roles but look what Aamir did with just one Ghajini and made us all sit up and take him seriously as an action hero.
In fact , not only Khans, I credit Akshay and Ajay too for reinventing themselves at regular intervals and remain relevant not to simply “survive” the box-office but be the force they are and continue ruling at the top. These 5 will not only survive but remain at the top of the heap for a good period of time.
An Jo, don’t take this stuff so seriously. People are still making the comparisons with Bachchan from SRK in the 90s to Salman today. they’re not making them with anyone else! Before that there was a whole host of other stars in the 80s from Mithun to Vinod Khanna to Anil Kapoor. It’s like Sachin. Is Sehwag better? Is Dravid? Is Kohli? Even Kambli briefly. and so it goes. If you’re the constant in every debate you’re doing pretty well! But leaving this aside we see all kinds of absurd claims being made online all the time. The online world is where one’s parallel universe can nonetheless find like-minded takers. Add to this the fact that people have a very poor sense of the past. And so these things keep arising. Some years down the line we’ll see others being compared to bachchan too. And these folks don’t even remember what happened 5-10 years ago let alone anything more. By the way it doesn’t even take Salman’s otherwise uncanny run since Dabanng to make the point. As you know the Akshay Kumar fan makes the very same claims with one tenth the results! It’s anything goes! Salman’s run has been incredible without a doubt. But there are things that are incredible on earth that don’t make the earth the sun! Guess you know where I’m going with this! To be honest I even used to debate some of this stuff years ago with the SRK folks and so on. Leaving aside the fact that I simply don’t have as much interest (or time) to keep doing the same it is also the case that the claims have got even crazier since. At some point the Alice in Wonderland Mad Hatter dictum holds ‘you must be mad or you wouldn’t be here’! If one keeps arguing this stuff one must truly be mad!
by the way the age thing is a fallacy too.. I’ve expanded on this many times before and won’t again except that those who think stars cannot survive for 30-35 years at various levels just don’t know their history. The idea that the contemporary stars have survived whereas earlier people did not is also an illiterate claim. I could name many stars. Secondly there’s an even bigger fallacy anyway. A tennis star might last till 30 and win 15 titles and not win anything after that. Another guy lasts till 35 and gets 10. So what? Finally it’s important not to take a star’s success (at any given point in time) and give his entire career the afterglow of the same. Again Salman’s run is pretty remarkable (though note it’s not so much so by South Indian standards.. what does his career prove? That there was such a market even in Hindi which multiplex cinema ignored for very long.. now with Salman you have essentially a Southern mass star.. but of course every Southern mass star isn’t Rajni). There’s a lot that could be said about Salman’s completely unexpected present run but a pond isn’t the best place to start!
Abhishek is a perfect replica of Bachchan in terms of his build, stride , voice etc and could easily maneuver us with a U.P …..ite bhaiyya swagger
LOL what makes you think Abhishek is even 1/1000th the actor or star that Amitabh was at his peak? That’s the problem I have with comparisons — Abhishek is used as a stick to bring down Amitabh Bachchan, something that’s just plain wrong.
And Abhishek’s been educated in Switzerland…he wouldn’t know a thing about the heartland even if he tried his best. He’s what one would call a child raised in privilege — the one with the proverbial silver spoon in his mouth, so to speak — and nothing about his appearance or even his voice reminds me of Amitabh. Nothing! If Abhishek’s failure is used to cast doubts on Amitabh’s stardom, or even question it, that’s like looking at Arjun Tendulkar and then questioning Sachin’s greatness. Or looking at Rohan Gavaskar and pointing fingers at Sunil Gavaskar. You get the idea…
I wasn’t going to say this earlier (what’s the point with some folks?!) but it’s pretty perverse to argue that a star who’s as much Bachchan’s spawn in terms of operating in that space he opened up as scores of others North or South (Salman of course comes at it via the Telugu remake route or that brand of masala) is suddenly judged to be capable of that which the god of this genre (among other things) might not have managed.
@”what makes you think Abhishek is even 1/1000th the actor or star that Amitabh was at his peak? ”
Well unlike you very few here say – Abhishek is even 1/1000th the actor Amitabh is…….
Obviously there is no comparison but subconsciously knowing Abhishek standing on this blog, I was using The Godfather equivalence of ‘making a statement people can’t refute’
that doesn’t make any sense.. you can’t use a position you don’t subscribe to.. that’s rather cynical. Don’t be so shy by the way.. you probably think Salman is like Amitabh or greater but for the difference in their periods. One should be open about one’s ‘madness’!
Just back from ‘Sultan’. Slept through the entire second half. Had gone in with a slight headache…came back with one that was much worse. It started off well enough. Very rooted and lively. The romance between Salman and Anushka was well written and performed. After some dull portions, the plot turn just before the interval was handled well. But after that it was dull, plodding and predictable storytelling all the way till the end. Imagine, showing three MMA matches back to back, with no new detailing! So boring and unimaginative. It was all so somber and serious, trying so hard to look like serious drama. I am so de-energized can’t muster the strength to write anything more. Give me ‘Kick’ any day!
watching it tonight but from the very first trailer I expected the second half to be a let down. Not surprised. I’d be very surprised at a Bajrangi-like run here irrespective of the numbers. D3 is much more likely. How much that kind of run is worth today given that Sultan is ahead remains to be seen. What I do know is that irrespective of the numbers when the fade happens it can be dramatic. D3 more or less broke every record for a week or ten days. The steam this one has built up might be good for 300 and that’s certainly nothing to be sneezed at (in other words it could do that sort of number with less than Bajrangi trending). But add another 20-40 crores to that remains to be seen. If I were betting I’d say it won’t get to PK despite this start (possibly it might even fall short of Bajrangi) but I could be completely wrong about this.
I think you need to be open minded. The 2nd half is not like some MTV channel type crap but still has lot of masala treatment and still managed to strike a chord. Difficult to shoot the fights without getting repetitive or borrowing from other movies but still I feel they managed to do it great and brought lot of Hindi films language and not some HW remake style. That actually helped the movie a lot IMO.
The thing is I’m not much of a fan of the Hollywood-like sports narrative. Even in Hollywood. Barring the Rocky series where too I really like the first one (some of the others are enjoyable but not even remotely close to the first one’s mood.. also a persona that I love..).
I will say Utkal isn’t the only one here.. I’ve heard complaints about this film’s second half. With Bajrangi it was extremely hard to find someone who hadn’t liked it. I could be wrong about this film’s prospects, I of course haven’t seen it yet, but I also know these numbers start flying fast and thick (in terms of predictions) every time there’s a big release and these have very rarely been borne out eventually.
Utkal I understand your issues but for me , all the fight and build up was very well executed. Even though India is hardly a MMA type nation plus the outcome was a foregone conclusion, still the fight development / escalation together with the background score easily pulled out those nationalistic feelings to root for Sultan.
Amar Butala @amarbutala 3m3 minutes ago
Wait for the Saturday box office numbers of #Sultan ! They are going to be INSANE!! @BeingSalmanKhan #sultanbreaksrecords
Bollywood Business @BHT_OFFICIAL 4m4 minutes ago
Today #Sultan Aiming for 40cr mark bt yes the 4th day of film will B highest day also till now a rare trend On a Normal day aftr 3 huge days
Boxofficedetail @boxofficedetail 1h1 hour ago
The way #Sultan is going it will cross 300cr Worldwide tomorrow.. Reports are strong, lifetime will be very huge!!
Ravi Teja @raviteja 2h2 hours ago
#Sultan superb film.. I traveled with the film.. Felt every emotion.. @AnushkaSharma & @BeingSalmanKhan performance peaks !! Loved it
Joginder Tuteja @Tutejajoginder 3h3 hours ago
#Sultan – It is HUGE. The @BeingSalmanKhan starrer is now set for these records:
FASTEST 150 cr
FASTEST 200 cr
FASTEST 250 cr
FASTEST 300 cr
Sultan has created havov across India on day four with collections that are just unbelievable. It will only be known exactly in the morning but it seems possible that not only has the fillm seen the highest daily collection of its run but possible the highest single day in the history of Hindi cinema. This has happenned on the fourth day of the film and that too after three huge days. There is the Eid affect in muslim centres which last for three days so today will be last but simply put the collections are crazy.
An early estimate for the collections on Saturday are around 38-39 crore nett though as has been the case over the past few days it will be no surprise if the film goes over the 39.32 crore all time single day record of Prem Ratan Dhan Payo. This is because there is difference of behavior in circuits due to Eid and what is being estimating has a bigger margin of error than normal. the total of the film in four days will be close to 145 crore nett.
It is just a shocker to see a film rise like this despite the holiday period in most places finished and another huge rise may well mean the sort of word of mouth that has not been seen probably in the last 15 years and the film could go anywhere.
HISTORIC – Sultan Tops 200 Crore Smashes Worldwide Record
Saturday 09 July 2016 17.30 IST
Sultan created history by becoming the first film to cross 200 crore in Worldwide business in the first weekend as the film grossed 148 crore (Gross) in India and $8.60 million Overseas (58 crore). This gave it a three day Worldwide gross total of 206 crore. Below are the top five Wordwide opening three day weekends.
The figures are outstanding across the world. The final worldwide total will go a little higher as the Gulf business like for like is normally four days for other films while three here as normally UAE opens a day early while other nations in Gulf open on Friday. The Overseas total will go higher due to this and it is the second highest opening ever in Oversaes after Dhoom 3.
The industry and media still see 100 crore lifetime domestic totals as achievements for many films when they are not but this is a true benchmark that the film has gone through to become the first film to cross 200 crore Worldwide in just 3 days.
Again an example of how these guys can’t resist the bull. To repeat 3I’s trending (2.5 times its week 1 number) it would have to do roughly 450 crores in its overall run. To repeat LRM’s it would have to do in excess of 600 crores. To just repeat Ghajini it would have to make at least 360-400 crores (depending on what the week 1 number is). I could keep multiplying these examples. Presumably trending is not divorced from WOM?! If the film is really going to do 350 or 400 it won’t be a debatable point then but let’s see. There have been lots of hurricane starts with lots of films that got the same breathless ‘record-breaking’ commentary. Let’s see where it is when the dust settles.
After seeing the movie, I think 400 should be achievable….The audience response is simply out of this world. The last time I saw such a response was in 3Idiots.
400 or not.. one thing is for sure, this will be highest grosser and will beat PK. Even if it falls short and wraps in between 350-380 is really huge from a movie like Sultan with no known director!
yes if it’s 3I-like that’s for sure.. the better comparison might be Bajrangi though. Because 3I got a lot of repeats from a very high percentage of the younger multiplex demographic. Doesn’t happen that often. If Sultan is liked as much as Bajrangi then with a much bigger start it ought to be able to cross PK.
The difference in the collection of this movie from other hurricane starts is that the 4th day is bigger than the first 3 days and more so when the first three days had some holidays in some form or other. Sunday will be 42+ I think..
But Satyam I am not sure you can extrapolate in the same ratios. 3I did 2.5 times the week 1 on a 70 cr opening. If a movie has a 250 cr Week 1, you cant expect it to do 600 crores to reach 3I levels. Because it has already done thrice of 3I in week 1. A better way to measure is footfalls. and am sure Sultan will exceed the footfalls of 3I by the time it touches 350 crores. While trending is not doubt a good indicator the ratio of trending can differ depends on the type of opening it gets. And of course there is the factor of lack of screen space in India!!
3I was 80 in week 1 not 70. And this was record-breaking for its time. Secondly the trending expectations remain the same one way or the other. In Hollywood when it’s the Avengers it’s also expected to make 600m. On the same trending grounds. And the film is liked enough it does this. But whether a film opens at 40m or 180m the trending expectations are similar. And again we see this with the Aamir films. Since Lagaan almost all of his films at every end of the production spectrum, mass-oriented or multiplex, maintain a certain trending. How did that happen?
Hollywood has unlimited screen space, that luxury is not there in Bollywood. IMO footfalls tell you the number of people who watches the movie. As long as a movie keeps exceeding the previous movies footfalls, one can say it is well accepted. Even Aamirs movies haven’t trended 2,5 times the opening week no?
yes but 2.5 times is not the standard. Most Aamir hits have at least doubled the week 1 number. D3 didn’t and we pointed this out here. It wasn’t even close to it. However with Salman you don’t have a single film so far, not one, that has doubled its week 1 number at end level of the game. Take Dabanng. Opened exactly like 3I. Fell 60 crores behind that film. Take every other film. Bajrangi is his best trending film by far. even that didn’t double week 1 though the result was otherwise acceptable. This isn’t the case though for every other film of his. How does screen space suddenly become an issue for non-Aamir films? Why is he able to produce that trending in every genre from RDB to Fanaa to TZP to Ghajini to 3I? Even an under-performing (on trending by his standards) PK was enough to make it the top grosser that even the biggest openers have not beaten so far. And this wasn’t done just on the strength of a mind-blowing initial as will be the case with Sultan or any other film that eventually crosses it. All of this isn’t an argument for Aamir as many people seem to think. Whether I like him or not this is about the facts. And it’s about time one stopped making excuses to explain away Aamir’s success and to similarly explain away the relative failures of others. So you can do 150-200 in a week, there’s no screen problem, you can break every record but suddenly when there’s a problem in week 2 or 3.. oops.. there weren’t screens, Salman didn’t get a good director, he had competition, etc etc. Aamir has a whole body of evidence post-Lagaan. Salman has a similar body of evidence post-Dabanng. In one case poor trending is the exception, in the other case the rule. There’s no getting away from this. Now are Salman’s films poor most of the time? Should one be surprised if these films did better? Sure! But that’s the kind of star he is. I’ve said this many times in the past. His appeal is based on the very thing that is also his weakness. The audience is not in it to watch him do anything serious. Bajrangi.. is the best deal that can be cut with the audience. But you can’t do that sort of subject every time. The regular Salman film, the kind everyone gets excited to see, is a fairly trashy sort of product. With few exceptions. Nothing wrong with this. I’m not making a judgment here. It works for him. More power to him. But given the kind of star and actor he is it would be very hard for him to suddenly turn serious.
If Salman’s films cross Aamir’s regular hey that’s great for him. I don’t have an issue with it whatever I might think of the films. But it’s somewhat perverse when the guy with the more proven track record in these matters is penalized whereas the guy with the lesser one is excused away.
Finally on the footfalls.. where’s the data for this? And again why is this used selectively? What were the Ghajini footfalls like? The film did very well in small-town India. Secondly the gross often increases with many of these films because there are also more multiplexes around even in smaller places. Even though a film like Sultan does well everywhere it nonetheless gets to those big numbers helped by a mushrooming multiplex market in these other centers. The major metros are more or less saturated. The growth has come from those smaller markets in recent years. This is not like Gadar where vastly more people saw it than Lagaan, the gap was even wider than the numbers suggest. But Lagaan did well in the metros, was ok or less elsewhere whereas Gadar was fine everywhere but a real monster in those smaller centers that couldn’t register as much at the time. had Gadar had some of the same multiplexes then it would have been a much wider gap. But it wouldn’t necessarily have meant more footfalls. Now of course given enough time the footfalls do increase on average but again this argument cannot be used selectively. What’s all the gross discussion about if one is suddenly going to talk about footfalls one day for selective films? THIS sort of thing is what the debate has always been about from my side. There’s no consistency to how these criteria are applied. It’s like pulling rabbits out of a hat to keep explaining away something. So yeah let’s do footfalls, let’s do that for every film. Let’s forget the gross.
Even Aamirs movies will be affected by screen count if there is a release in weeks after that. I think PK was on course for a much higher total but lost screens in Week 3 or 4 which curtailed its run…PK didn’t double its first week too. The first week was 182 and overall was 340. But it had very good trending considering its opening. BB fell short by a 20 crores of PK but faced competition earlier than PK. I don’t think BB was any less loved than PK. Infact BB marginally had higher footfalls than PK.
I don’t think Ghajini will be there in the top 20 footfalls…It was equally a monster in the metros too. Its footfalls was around 2.4 crores. and it didn’t double its week 1…Its week 1 was around 62 crores and it totally did 114.71 crs officially..Of course the first week was 8 days and not 7 days…But PK, BB etc were almost a crore higher than Ghajini and around 50 lacs higher than 3I. Though Ghajini was a huge blockbuster it didn’t have the trending of 3I but it doesn’t make it any lesser.
The greatest trender in Hollywood is My big Fat Greek wedding which hardly opened to 5 mn and ended up with more than 200mn..That can happen only in Hollywood which has unlimited screen space. In India if we have a movie opening at 1 cr, even with the best of trending it wont reach 20 crs and that too only if it retains some screens the week after it releases. If India has more screens than the number of movies it can accommodate then I am sure we will get the trending of 1980s and 1990s happening.
Ghajini definitely doubled it’s week 1 which was roughly 55 crores or so. the extended week number was 62 or whatever. But even going by the latter it almost doubled it. On PK yes and we mentioned it at the time. And yes 3I was a different deal than Ghajini and no one has said otherwise. It was more ‘liked’ by the multiplex audience. Now some genres are more dominant in one age, that’s a different debate, but there’s no doubt that most of the audience liked 3I more. Secondly there has to be minimal trending. A film doubling its week 1 number (it doesn’t have to be 3I!) is different from films doing 70% in week 1. D3 was historic for 7-10 days but then added relatively little after this. It should have done 350 or so if it had followed the trending of the first two films in the franchise. Actually more than this. The total is nothing to be sneezed but there’s no doubt that D3 wasn’t liked as much as D2 or Ghajini.
On the rest one could debate this more but notice the ‘formula’.. it is ALWAYS Aamir’s success that requires some sort of explanation that then ‘reduces’ his achievement whereas with SRK or Salman it’s the exact opposite. Yes let’s look at footfalls and ticket prices and the multiplex/single screen divide and competition (hey some of us have only been saying this for more than a decade) but let’s do this for EVERY film. Not just self-selected ones.
Just came back from Sultan. My first Salman movie since HAHK as I find seeing his movies a waste of time….
Like all sports movie, it is a bit predictable and clichéd, the central conflict might be weak but Boy o Boy, what an awesome movie this is…Thoroughly enjoyed it and there is not a single dull moment. I never thought I will live to say this but Salman Khan acts…He really has struck acting gold here..This is his Chakde moment…Anushka is wonderful. The best part of the movie is that it is understated in its emotions and one can easily connect with it due to the very Indian setting…The music is wonderful, Jag Ghoomeya is such a beautiful song. and the title song is mesmeric…specially the lines…”Khoon mein tera Mitti, Mitti mein tera khoon, upar amber neeche Dharti, beech mein tera Junoon” … and the way it has been used thrills you…
BO wise there will be no stopping this. This will easily coast to 400 crores and above…
One more thing, Dangal needs to be a very good movie to match this. Because however good Dangal will be, the novelty of the subject will be an issue it will need to overcome. And Sultan will not be an easy movie to measure up to.
Great to read this Krish. This is his CDI and as Salman said his ‘Rocky’. This won’t have any negative reviews IMO..just minor complaints here and there.
Btw, the lyrics are..”Upar Allah niche dharti Beech mein tera junoon” . So, the word ‘Allah’ has been replaced with ‘amber’ in some places in India? Just curious.
Satyam, Baradwaj liking it very much and then Masand who gives 1-2 stars to Salman movies gave 3.5/5 eventually, you can figure out that this is something different!
Always respect Rangan’s opinion (can’t stand Masand) but for a number of years now I’ve not agreed with him very often when it comes to Bollywood. His pieces are always fantastic but his perspective on what Bollywood represents is very different from mine.
I wouldn’t have seen this one too had it not on my wifes insistence. Not that she is a fan but just wanted to see some movie. Bhajrangi I had caught on TV…Had liked it too…
On this one, like all sports movie there is a bit of predictability but what keeps it going are the tender moments between the leads. They have aced that…the wrestling and MMA scenes are also good but like in Chak De , you are invested in the characters due to what happens outside the sporting moments. This is a better movie than BB. And as BR stated the melodrama is beautifully understated. No loud emotions…That was good to see..
I must say I didn’t like Sultan at all. Liked Bajrangi a fair bit and compared to this I think it was Sholay. Even the first half was barely passable for me. Some of the fight moments I didn’t mind even if the second half went on interminably. The film does push the right buttons and it’s certainly constructed for a star at a box office peak but just not my thing. Went with a group of 6. Just one person liked it. When I was leaving the theater heard a guy say that it was a terrible film but would probably do ok. I’d be very surprised if this film maintained Bajrangi-like trending. Sure there was a cross-section clapping and cheering for it but that wasn’t everyone. It has enough support to sustain itself for a while but the test will come after 10 days or so.
Very surprised to read this. I think its little bit harsh. BB has more modern and Raju Hirani kind of screenplay whereas Sultan has old as mountains story and same treatment but has heart and punches in right places. It pushes the right buttons and for me its a winner in all respects. I still don’t doubt its beating PK!
think the elements were there to make a much better film than they did. Even among people who liked the film I wonder if anyone could watch it a second time. But yeah Bajrangi to my mind was vastly superior than this. I didn’t go crazy over Bajrangi but it was perfectly fine. Wasn’t bored anywhere in the film. In Sultan some portions were interesting here and there but overall couldn’t couldn’t wait to leave the theater! On that note I was surprised to see a screening in Times Square barely be half full (it was a 10:20 show). Bajrangi in the second week, and the very same show, at the very same theater was full. It might just be a one-off but I was surprised.
@On that note I was surprised to see a screening in Times Square barely be half full (it was a 10:20 show).”
Well overseas numbers are there for all to see. In fact U.S numbers will be at display on Box Office Mojo tomorrow and we can judge the reception from there.
Since ‘stardom’ is being compared across decades, I’d like to offer my own interpretation of stardom in a way that’s more in tune with the comparisons made here.
We’ve got:
a) Salman (at present) — a star who can create a huge opening on his own without any apparent trouble
b) Aamir — a suave actor-star whose films have a long standing tradition of positive WOM
c) Akshay Kumar — A star who’s not capable of giving the highest opening but one who releases 3-4 films in any given year, which is unusual in present day Bollywood, and takes them to relatively good box office outcomes.
Amitabh, at his peak, was Salman+Aamir+Akshay combined…only better! He was a much better actor than Aamir (who I think is very good on his day), used to generate mass hysteria of the kind that can be imagined by looking at Salman’s openings, and used to release 3-4 films every year! At one point he had 4-5 superhit films running in theaters concurrently! There’s hype and there’s the real deal — Amitabh Bachchan was the only deal going by current yardsticks.
In fact, stars of yesteryears, be it Rajesh Khanna (another true-blue superstar) or Dharmendra had multiple releases every year and at some point of time competed with themselves!
Yes, I realize times are different — but the fundamentals never change. In fact, Amitabh’s example is replicated — albeit by breaking it down — by 3 stars. It takes 3 current day superstars to emulate the phenomenon that was Amitabh, and even then it’s only a partial appraisal of his stardom.
Aamir though does give you the biggest initial possible for any given genre. Yes he doesn’t get Salman-like openings because he doesn’t do those genres all the time. It’s also true that Salman is more suited to make this his bread and butter film. Nonetheless Ghajini broke every kind of record when it opened. It’s safe to say that Aamir could have continued going down that path.
As far as I’m concerned though what Rajesh Khanna did for a few years and then what Bachchan did for many years and at an even greater magnitude is still unparalleled in any era before or since. I don’t even buy the ‘different era’ argument much. Yes of course there are great distinctions but this is always the case. Before Salman did what he’s been doing since Dabanng no one thought this was even possible. People felt SRK’s achievement was the limit of what could be done (had many arguments with folks over the years). Now Salman is considered the limit but were he more of an actor, more of a serious actor, he would also have had stronger narratives more often than not and then he would also have had truly record-breaking grossers (not just initials) more often than not. The other thing I always like to point out is that in Bachchan’s era everyone else was in a different universe. It’s not as if every other star was getting that sort of success! Today Salman is the only guy doing that sort of mass thing with every film. But otherwise in terms of both initials and grosses many films get it done and even as we speak PK is still the biggest grosser despite not starting out this way and not trending like 3I. Before this there was the 3I benchmark for years. Before that Ghajini. But even some of the big SRK films have opened very strongly in the initial run (even if he needs a circus these days to get this going). The point is that Salman’s consistency is remarkable but no one else is really doing that genre and even then his numbers don’t necessarily eclipse everyone else’s. In Bachchan’s age every star more or less did the same dominant genre.
Agreed on Rajesh Khanna…people who discuss Box Office these days have no idea of how big a phenomenon he was.
Regarding Aamir, I agree that he guarantees an initial, irrespective of genre, and he’s also quite good in selecting the right scripts. He’s anyway my pick, easily, among big name stars from the current lot. In fact, I’d call myself a fan.
I haven’t watched a Salman film since Dabangg (enjoyed it quite a lot) and I have little interest in his films. Give me an Udta Punjab kind of film any day. I’d be willing to watch it a third time instead of spending time on Sultan. My problem (!) with mainstream hindi cinema is that I can’t tolerate mediocrity anymore. I didn’t like 3 Idiots for that matter. Quite liked PK though. Wasn’t happy with Dhoom 3 either but loved Talaash. In essence, there are very few mainstream hindi films that truly excite me, or to be more precise, elicit a response from me.
Have to agree with Saket in a big way. Give me an Udta Punjab sort of filmand day. I absolutely loved the film and would be happy to watch it again. It was a perfect mixture of mainstream+ art+ documentary feel.
I feel that Kabir Khan has contributed to Salman’s revival. Loved Ek Tha a Tiger (and liked both Salman and Katrina in it); loved Bajrangi Bhaijaan — my husband and I laughed (my spouse, aloud) while watching it on a plane trip some five months back. Loved Kabir’s Kabul Express, his early pre-Salman film.
I am fine with 3 Idiots; loved the Zoobi Doobi song, the way it was picturized. Aamir was hilarious, in the song’s audio scene bits. And Aamir- Kareena had great chemistry; in Talaash too,another niche film I love. PK was ok, had a good theme, could have been better.
‘@Amitabh, at his peak, was Salman+Aamir+Akshay combined…only better! He was a much better actor than Aamir (who I think is very good on his day), used to generate mass hysteria of the kind that can be imagined by looking at Salman’s openings, and used to release 3-4 films every year! At one point he had 4-5 superhit films running in theaters concurrently! There’s hype and there’s the real deal — Amitabh Bachchan was the only deal going by current yardsticks.”
This is the most concise and probably the best ‘write-up’
(not defense since his unique place is unmatched and needs no account) on Bachchan phenomenon !
On that note enjoy the two tweets of Rishi Kapoor -.
I, ME, MYSELF! @chintskap Jul 7
Time and again I have supported Manmohan Desai’s films. Here’s another instance. Sometimes life is illogical too!
I, ME, MYSELF! @chintskap Jun 16
Please read this all Manmohan Desai detractors. This happens in real life too!🎭
@chintskap it’s not only in AAA miracle happened It happened in Indian Military Soldier lost memory in accident regains in another accident
Girish Johar @girishjohar 8h8 hours ago
Data pouring in, seems Box office is about to explode… can #Sultan day 4 be the highest any sinlge day in the history @BeingSalmanKhan 👍👍👍
PJ @Prakashjaaju 13m13 minutes ago Mhow, India
Almost full from early morning.
PJ @Prakashjaaju 6m6 minutes ago Mhow, India
So #SULTAN will become first film to collect 200 Cr in First Week in India.
Joginder Tuteja @Tutejajoginder 1h1 hour ago
#Sultan Wed-Fri it was Salman superpower. From Sat, it has the lethal combo of content going in its favor too. That’s making the difference!
KRK @kamaalrkhan 2h2 hours ago
#Sultan is having historical advance booking today so day5 collections can be 40Cr+ n it will be a first film ever which will do 40+ on day5
Sultan Has Extraordinary Saturday
Saturday 10 July 2017 12.30 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
Sultan had a phenomenal Saturday with business of around 36.50 crore nett which takes the four day total to around 142 crore nett and if the advances for Sunday are counted the 150 crore nett barrier had already been breached by the end of business on Saturday.
The film just ran riot on Saturday especially in North India with Delhi / UP flirting with all time record collections and East Punjab growing a humongous 30% plus from high levels on Friday. It is very difficult for a commercial masala film coming on a such a wide release to grow on Saturday if its day two but here there is growth in the 20% region despite it being day four.
The Eid benefit is normally there for three days in the Muslim centres and that will have ended yesterday but it is Sunday now and normally for this type of film you would assume that Sunday will show more growth than Saturday so possibly history is about to be created with the first 40 crore nett plus day and highest single day in history.
Obviously it is not certain that Sunday will show more growth than Saturday because eventually the Sunday is day five and Muslim centres are getting back to normal but with the sort of Saturday the film has had even 10% growth will mean an extraordinary Sunday.
Basically the film is going to do similar to what Bajrangi Bhaijaan (184 cr) did in a week in five days. It could go a little higher or little lower depending on Sunday but the range is around Bajrangi Bhaijaan seven days in five days.
Sultan Creates Havoc On Saturday
Saturday 09 July 2016 22.30 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
Sultan has created havov across India on day four with collections that are just unbelievable. It will only be known exactly in the morning but it seems possible that not only has the fillm seen the highest daily collection of its run but possible the highest single day in the history of Hindi cinema. This has happenned on the fourth day of the film and that too after three huge days. There is the Eid affect in muslim centres which last for three days so today will be last but simply put the collections are crazy.
An early estimate for the collections on Saturday are around 38-39 crore nett though as has been the case over the past few days it will be no surprise if the film goes over the 39.32 crore all time single day record of Prem Ratan Dhan Payo. This is because there is difference of behavior in circuits due to Eid and what is being estimating has a bigger margin of error than normal. the total of the film in four days will be close to 145 crore nett.
It is just a shocker to see a film rise like this despite the holiday period in most places finished and another huge rise may well mean the sort of word of mouth that has not been seen probably in the last 15 years and the film could go anywhere.
More than boxoffice figures, there is more madness in getting all the right words to describe apocalypse. Havoc, shocker, extraordinary etc. etc. I will supply some more.
I think it is a forgone conclusion now that the movie is going to do tremendous business.
As for the Aamir v Salman debate, I think that the pattern during the last 5-6 years have been that Aamir has regularly come up with record breaking grossers and Salman has been getting 2 or 2 huge grossers in between that have come close to these record grossers.
So, Aamir has been setting the standards while Salman has been coming very close regularly and with occasionally more volume of releases.
Between PK and Dangal, Salman has already had 3 releases. BB was close to matching PK’s total, PRDP was a 200cr grosser and now Sultan is threatening to outgross everything.
That’s 3 huge grossers within one year period. Aamir on the other hand, has a 2 years gap between PK and Dangal.
I think it is going to be quite an easy conclusion this time around. If Dangal beats Sultan’s collections then Aamirs reigns supreme, having the biggest grosser under the belt.
But if it doesn’t, then Salman is easily the undisputed No.1. Because after a gap of 2 years, there is no margin of error for Aamir. The occasional lack of volume of releases is the only issue with Aamir. One quality film a year surely is not asking too much from him.
One quality film he will surely give. But BO results is not a measure of quality film. I will take his own films.Talaash and PK. PK was crowdpleasing and Talaash was not. 3 Idiots and RDB.
RH and Sarfarosh.
As for Salman, he was already number one even before Sultan.
And he had more 100 crore films in his kitty. He is far ahead in the race even if Dangal does good business. I feel Dangal may do 100 to 150 at the most if it is allowed to release without bans and boycotts.
I dont understand why should give he every year one movie or two movies in the same year. It is his working style that he opted and adopted.
Some can manage even six kids. Some can manage only two kids.
All these arguments are forwarded to make him look like an odd sheep. Each to his own.
I do actually feel that Dangal can do very well. I have faith in Aamir’s script sense and I don’t think he is going to devote 2 years to a project that will not get universal appreciation.
Asking one quality film a year is reasonable from any cinema lover. I would be glad to see more films from him. 2 years is a too long wait. Remember Ghajini and 3 Idiots or Lagaan and DCH releasing within months. It’s better than 2 years gaps and it did not hurt the quality of the movies.
Dangal isn’t the Sultan kind of production. It’s a much smaller deal. One simply can’t have the same standard for both. A strong script could trend very well and still put up huge numbers and perhaps it surprises and does a massive amount. But that can’t be the standard. It’s a proper commercial film but it’s not the kind of deal that is instantly in the race for biggest opener or grosser. Some of the novelty value has also been lost. Good WOM can overcome some of this but it’s still hard to put a number to what the loss of that novelty value means.
I am not so sure of that. I think Dangal is also aiming to be a huge opener. It is a proper commercial movie and even the first poster suggested the same thing. Additionally they are also releasing in Christmas and I am sure it wont be less than 5000 screens…
and i don’t believe Dangal is aiming to be a huge opener cause Aamir could’ve had his young look on the poster to bulit some hype but he didn’t . Aamir clearly said he wants to remain true to the film and the film is about father and his 4 daughters and the role of the young Aamir is not more than 10 -15% . Does that sound as commerical as Sultan to you ?
No film on scale of CDI or TZP will release on 5000 screens. For example Fan released on 2500 screens, almost half of what Sultan did. I am sure Dangal is not going to do that. We will know when we see the trailor but from what I know its a proper commercial movie with masala moments and humour…
I do think Dangal will be quite commercial as Aamir has suggested the director gives him the Hirani impression. But it’s not like Hirani films open massively, they trend well which is what I’d expect here.
The way Sultan is going, dangal will find it tough to match the opening week but I’d never rule Aamir out from pulling something special over a few weeks to overturn any record total that sultan is set to make.
The fear for dangal would have to be the novelty. Aamir’s been quite gracious on sultan so far so I think he’s confident rather than worried.
I also don’t think it’s much to ask to do one film a year…I’m quite shocked how Aamir has now done 3 physically demanding roles like ghajini, d3 & dangal. Even 3 idiots required some physical changes. He’s better off picking less physically demanding scripts in future to help trim the turnaround time on his films.
Sultan releasing one month after Fan released in 1500 more screens than Fan. There was a reason why Fan didn’t release on maximum screen count as it was not meant for all centres. That 3500 screen
Even if it is not 5000, Dangal will be closer to 4500 atleast considering Sultan is on 4200 + screens.
Fan was 3500 screens http://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cm_OMAvWYAA1nOd.jpg the difference between Fan and Sultan were around 700 screens which i feel is not a lot given the kind of film Fan was .
Dangal will be commerical but its no Ghajini or D3 . Dangal is more of a multiplex film and would be dependent on word of mouth. If WOM works it will do well if it doesn’t it wont simple as that .
FYI, during Talaash, Aamir was asked why isn’t he releasing Talaash in Christmas and instead releasing in November. He said its different kind of film and not aimed at full family entertainer and i don’t want it to burden with my other big hits during Christmas. If he has that mindset and then releasing Dangal on Christmas shows that he believes that Dangal will do very well at the boxoffice. My 2 cents!
I think this is a more of a case of people hoping it is not commercial and hatke. Well, being commercial is not exactly a bad thing guys 🙂
I hope you remember that one of the reasons Talaash didn’t release over holiday weekend was because it was too niche for that weekend. No such thoughts are existing for Dangal. This is a Walt Disney Productions who will pump in the best promotions for it. You can also see that by the fact that the posters are out a good 6 months before. Its a solo Christmas release with Pritam as the music director – a proper commercial music director.
In all probability it will have 2 halves one where Aamir is playing the wrestler and second where we encourages his kids to do the same and how they get those gold medals in real life. Aamir himself told it is a script laden with humour. Mark my words it will have enough ‘seeti’ moments in it. At best I will compare it to Chak De India which was more of a songless affair and was more low key in promotions. But even if Chak de was releasing in todays times, it will be doing 200 cr +. Dangal will be bigger and more glitzy….
Well, ofcourse I might be wrong and it is a very niche movie then it that case it wont release in 4000 screens. Lets wait for the trailor
Sultan had a phenomenal Saturday with business of around 36.50 crore nett which takes the four day total to around 142 crore nett and if the advances for Sunday are counted the 150 crore nett barrier had already been breached by the end of business on Saturday.
The film just ran riot on Saturday especially in North India with Delhi / UP flirting with all time record collections and East Punjab growing a humongous 30% plus from high levels on Friday. It is very difficult for a commercial masala film coming on a such a wide release to grow on Saturday if its day two but here there is growth in the 20% region despite it being day four.
The Eid benefit is normally there for three days in the Muslim centres and that will have ended yesterday but it is Sunday now and normally for this type of film you would assume that Sunday will show more growth than Saturday so possibly history is about to be created with the first 40 crore nett plus day and highest single day in history.
Obviously it is not certain that Sunday will show more growth than Saturday because eventually the Sunday is day five and Muslim centres are getting back to normal but with the sort of Saturday the film has had even 10% growth will mean an extraordinary Sunday.
Basically the film is going to do similar to what Bajrangi Bhaijaan (184 cr) did in a week in five days. It could go a little higher or little lower depending on Sunday but the range is around Bajrangi Bhaijaan seven days in five days.
addatoday.com @addatoday 1h1 hour ago
#Sultan 5th Day (Sunday) Collection Early Trends. Set to Create HISTORY Today! Housefull Everywhere! Unstoppable!
Girish Johar @girishjohar 4h4 hours ago
Thank u @BeingSalmanKhan for keeping my word 😚 was laughed at wen i said 150crs in 5 dys…aapne toh lagbhag 4 hi days mein kar diya #Sultan
Shekhar RavjianiVerified account @ShekharRavjiani 5h5 hours ago
What an honor to be a part of this beautiful film. #Sultan Thank you @aliabbaszafar @yrf #adityachopra and @BeingSalmanKhan for your love.
VISHAL DADLANIVerified account @VishalDadlani 5h5 hours ago
Also, props to @aliabbaszafar & Julius Packiam for the way that our songs, especially #Sultan title & Rise of Sultan are used in the score!
taran adarshVerified account @taran_adarsh 7h7 hours ago
#Sultan is UNSTOPPABLE… Setting new BENCHMARKS… Wed 36.54 cr, Thu 37.32 cr, Fri 31.66 cr, Sat 37.10 cr. Total: ₹ 142.62 cr. India biz.
Komal Nahta @KomalNahta 7h7 hours ago
#Sultan day 4: 37.10 crore. Total: 142.62 crore. Outstanding!!!!
sabina lamba @SabinaLamba 1h1 hour ago
#Sultan earns Rs150million in Pakistan n 5Days setting new RECORD!Salman Khan’s invincible dominance
ali abbas zafar @aliabbaszafar 5h5 hours ago
Sultan in cinema hall @BeingSalmanKhan @AnushkaSharma let’s go and collect that money 😜https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cm_0Ad4WAAAT5jx.jpg
I personally think it may just about make it past PK. Maybe a 230-240cr first week (9 days total). It may then probably gross an additional 100cr.
BOI have PK at 330cr and BB at 315cr lifetime. Both are looking like realistic targets for Sultan now. But still looks like a tall order in both cases.
However it is going to cruise past D3. That’s very obvious.
Another Huge Day For Sultan On Sunday
Sunday 10 July 2017 23.30 IST
Sultan continued its phenomenal run on Sunday with another huge day with collections set to be around 39-40 crore nett and taking its extended five day weekend total to around 182 crore nett. This is averaging out to be around 36.5 crore nett a day over five days which in just incredible. The film has maintained over 35 crore nett for four of the five days in its run so far.
The way to put this into perspective is that only one film prior to Sultan had opened to more than 36.50 crore nett and this has averaged that much over five days. The growth on Sunday has come mainly from the areas that did not jump on Saturday. The very high level of collection on Saturday made huge Sunday growth hard.
The business of the film is fantastic all over and what is exceptional is the business in West Bengal, Mysore and Tamil Nadu Kerala which are the weakest for Salman Khan starrers but here all three have put up excellent numbers with the latter crossing Bajrangi Bhaijaan lifetime in five days.
The business on Sunday may turn out to be the highest single day ever and the first 40 crore nett breach in a day. It would be another huge achievement if day five is setting ALL TIME RECORDS.
Saw Sultan last evening and was bowled over.
Salman Khan rocks. This is a superfresh family entertainer and India’s own Rocky. I wish Salman has done this earlier and would have made this a series.
5/5
All time Block Buster
Both of you are becoming repetitive now. Try something new dear.
Atleast i am honest. Jayshah is plain hypocrite and has disappeared now. You are here and facing the heat so that’s a change.
I’m still here & quite happy to see Sultan doing well. And quite frankly it should easily be the top grosser ever now.
“At least I am honest” – what a pile of rubbish. Honesty is in accepting that even if Akshay does 3 films – his totals don’t reach to those of Salman / Aamir. And barring the last couple of years, his filmography is made up of mainly poor films with the odd cracker like Mohra/Hera Pheri.
It is true I almost slept through the second half of Sultan and overall the film left me cold. But funnily enough there isn’t anything specifically negative in the film that I can point out.
I read somewhere a review which asks the question,”Why doesn’t Aarfa try to win the Olympic medal instead of teaching wrestling to children?” How naïve! People who buy this have no idea what losing a baby means to a mother. She is grieving deeply and dos not have the motivation to aim for something as demanding as the Olympics. If it was as simple as that she could have had an abortion and prepare for the Olympics. She didn’t even consider that option.
No you cannot fault the psychological motivation of the principal characters leading to crucial actions in the film. In fact some of them are written and performed with a lot of subtlety. Take the whole sequence leading to Aarfa losing her baby and her turning Sultan away. When he is planning to take part in the World Wrestling Championship, she does not explicitly stop him. But she wants to show her some consideration. After all she did not bat an eyelid or show any signs of regret while giving up her Olympics dreams for the sake of their baby. It is just a chance that the baby had a blood type of O negative and he needed it. It adds to her resentment against him and the guilt that Sultan feels about the whole episode. Mind you, even now she does not blame him. She just says she cannot help feel a wall between them now. The writing here is first class. The melodrama is toned down by Aarfa’s semi-sarcastic monologue: “Like you he had the O negative blood type. Like you he was rare. But he was not strong like you. He needed a little more blood in his body..etc etc.” This one really brought tears to my eyes.
In fact the writing was consistently witty, with a lightness of touch. After Sultan has chased the four akhada boys down as a test of his fitness, instead of heavy praise, you get the line, “Today I am convinced man indeed evolved from the monkey”. There are some hilarious one-liners too, none more explosive than “ Angrezi mein bataate hain. Don’t teach your father how to make babies.” The line has half the hall in splits because the young among them know the more authentic version: Don’t teach your father how to f***.
The other positive of the film were the songs. On seeing the trailer, I had made up mind to stay away from the film mainly because of the two songs ‘ Baby Ko Bass Pasand Hai’ and ‘ 44 Volt’. But I ended up enjoying Baby Ko Bass Pasand Hai hugely. It was set up nicely with Aarfa asking the sound guy to add some more bass. And then both Salman and Anuska rocked the floor with their energetic and playful dance moves. The ‘440 Volt’ song was placed more intrusively. But fortunately they cut to scenes of Sultan preparing for the wrestling match during most of the stanzas. “ Jag Ghumeya’ was of course a beauty by Vishal-Sekhar and was used very aptly.
Which bring s me to strongest positive of the film – the performances. It was an excellent supporting cast – Aaarfa’s father, Sultans friend Govinda, the organizer of the MMA tournament, etc. Anushka is among our most consummate actresses at the moment. And if it is a north Indian character she is playing she can nail it perfection. Even though she looks a tad skinny for a Haryanvi wrestler, she takes your mind off the fact with her superlative performance. Salman Khan needs to be applauded for the way he has played Sultan Ali Khan. In his portrayal Sultan is an organic whole, and not just sum of a few good scenes. He stays in character throughout, making every action pf his appear spontaneous and credible. His Haryanvi accent? How authentic it is? Frankly I don’t care. Not only here, but in any film. If the actor can carry off the lines and manage to make it appear natural that is what I care about. And Salman does that. He had already shown how well he can play a golden-hearted son of the soil in Bajarangi Bhaijaan. What he adds to that here is a touch of gravitas and maturity. He brings out the psychological condition of Sultan after they had lost their baby is spot on. There is grief, there is guilt, and there is a man who has lost a lot in his life. His body language and slow speech reflects this loser to perfection. He does not shed this lumbering slowness even when he starts preparing for the MMA tournament. He is seeking redemption. But what is lost is lost, never to be got back. This feeling of loss will remain with him even after he has won the MMA tournament, raised money for the blood bank, got back Aarfa and even has had one more child. The old exuberance can never come back. Salman does this brilliantly. Then there is the sheer physicality demanded of the role. Stripping down to one’s langot and to move across the screen without a trace of self-consciousness is not as easy it sounds. Everyone has mentioned the scene where he examines his flabby paunch and despairs; and that’s very well done indeed. But even in the other scenes where he has to reveal his body, including the fight scenes, he is efffortle3ss. No one but Salman could do this part as convincingly.
(So as I said I have hardly anything negative to say about the film and so many positives to dwell on. In spite of that the second half of the films was totally unengaging for me. And the whole storytelling kind of left me cold. On the other hand, there have been films with obvious script inconsistencies and other negative, and yet have gripped me with something powerful at the core. That’s the way it goes.)
This is a great read Utkal and you have nicely brought out the positives and the special efforts in writing that they have accomplished.
In the middle there were junctures where I had my own issues in terms of reasoning / rationale but the climax more than made up for all that and I came out of theater smiling. For me the best part of the movie was when during the final fight after having being knocked down completely, Sultan gathers strength from his basics / native instincts and they show Sultan’s rusty / dusty wrestling image of his ‘akhaada years’ parallel to MMA fight. That was a good example of integrating the modern world to our traditional roots.
On scripting anxieties, there is a nice interview of Ali Abbas and towards the middle of conversation he tells what Salim Khan counseled , siting Sholay as an example for plot error / inconsistencies….
Utkal this may answer few of the critical points about film and Salman as an actor. Ali has countered it superbly. Ali seems to have superb knowledge about commercial aspects of mainstream film.
Anupama Chopra @anupamachopra 7h7 hours ago
On #Sultan, @aliabbaszafar says it’s @BeingSalmanKhan and emotions that trump in the end
Salman needs to thank Katrina for introducing two good directors ( Kabir and Ali Zafar ) to him and move out of comfort zone and increase his multiplex reach. Both were very close to Kat and directed their first mainstream movie with her.
Sultan Has An Unbelievable Extended Weekend
Monday 11 July 2016 11.00 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
Sultan has had an unbelievable extended five day weekend grossing around 181.50 crore apprx nett in five days. These figures are similar to what Bajrangi Bhaijaan and PK did in seven days. The film just shattered almost every record in the book. There was a dip on Friday which was a working day but the film went up to the Eid levels again on Saturday and Sunday. An early estimate for Sunday is 39 crore nett apprx.
The figures were record breaking all over with every circuit doing fantastic business. The North Indian touch in the film has meant that North is extraordinary but places where it may have found it harder like Mysore and West Bengal are also huge with the former hitting 11.50 crore nett in five days.
The weekend business has ensured the film is a BLOCKBUSTER and it remains to be seen where Monday lands up. The film does not have the benefit of weekday holidays like a Bajrangi Bhaijaan or PK which allowed ticket rates for those films to stay at weekend levels so it will harder to set weekday records but what is certain is that film will become the first film to cross 200 crore nett in a week, another major record added to the list.
I do still think that PK and BB’s totals are going to be quite hard to attain. Maybe once the initial euphoria is over, the collections and trending are going to be more ‘normal’. If I were a betting man, I would bet on a 300cr total for Sultan.
Whatever the final total, I don’t think anyone in Bollywood can deliver over 800cr in terms of returns within a year. This is what Salman has delivered with BB, PRDP and Sultan,
There are over 800cr of net collections in there in less than 12 months. This is unheard of and I don’t think anyone can match that right now.
During a recent promotional event for their upcoming film, Dishoom, Varun Dhawan decided to lift John Abraham, who weighs around 95 kg. Seeing him successfully pull it off, co-star Jacqueline Fernandez, too, decided to give it a go.
The actress attempted to lift Johnny boy, but wasn’t successful. The next day, Jacqueline realised that she couldn’t move her back and suspected a slipped disc.
A visit to the doctor clarified that she had just strained her back and luckily, it wasn’t something major that needed severe medical attention.
I am not able to understand why Boi does not simply give crisp figures and simply say very good instead of going gaga like a fond grandmother? By seeing the figures, we can understand how big a hit a particular film is.
And also its tendency to write off certain movies just looking at the title of a film, at the starcast, at the genre.
What drives them to give silly commentaries like pro?
Every portal wants to outdo the other to get fans to their sites.
What about others who want to find only boxoffice figures without going through all this froth?
Ghostbuster Gaurav Tiwari found dead. Father hints at ‘negative forces’
Indian Paranormal Society founder and CEO Gaurav Tiwari was found dead in his Dwarka home on Thursday, July 7. The police is still conducting investigations and has not established a firm cause of death yet.
Read: Paranormal investigations a fast-growing hobby
Tiwari, who had multiple TV shows to his credit, was found lying on his bathroom floor with a thin black line across his neck. The police say that the cause of death was asphyxia, reports The Times of India.
Tiwari was part of TV shows like Haunted Weekends with Sunny Leone and MTV’s Girl’s Night Out with VJ Ranvijay, Bhoot Aaya and Fear Files. He was also a part of movies 16 December and Tango Charlie.
sabina lamba @SabinaLamba 2h2 hours ago
#Sultan -Delhi/NCR Is Super strong Today – Monday ! Many evening shows Houseful.
Faridoon Shahryar @iFaridoon 4h4 hours ago
The way #Sultan is trending it may cross 300 crore nett India by the next weekend,it looks practically set to cross #PK record!!
Faridoon Shahryar @iFaridoon 4h4 hours ago
New benchmarks are meant to be set…it is too early to say but the way #Sultan is being loved,400 crore India nett is a possibility…
BombayTimesVerified account @bombaytimes 4h4 hours ago
Wonder if it is because of @AnushkaSharma or @BeingSalmanKhan , @RanveerOfficial surprised us with his act! #Sultan
Movie continues to be super strong in North today. Expect a number between 20 and 25 crs based on North India. But if others don’t rise as much in evening, a little below 20 crs.
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Today also #Sultan is rocking at box office means my business rating is going to be 100% wrong so congratulations to @BeingSalmanKhan @yrf
Film #Sultan’s business has confirmed that @BeingSalmanKhan is as big super star in Bollywood as big Rajnikanth in Tollywood.
yeah he thought it would do 200-230 which is odd given that even a film that completely fizzled out like Prem rattan.. also did 200 or whatever. He is saying that single screens are at 50% today while multiplexes are at 90%. Obviously it can put up the biggest numbers if the latter keep holding up.
I saw some site suggesting today/Monday is looking like 25 crore which will be amazing.
The thing with salman movies is everybody who wants to see it will see it in first few days. They’re not going to wait and see how the film report is, etc… It’s like an event.
There’s no doubt that this movie is liked/loved by many, otherwise the collection doesn’t stay at this level for more than a day or two.
I think the 2nd weekend drop will be big.
Would have loved to see this film release during christmas/new year time when there’s like a 10 day festive mood.
Today is key still – reckon it needs to be at least 20cr minimum to stand strong chances of overhauling P.K – obviously needs to milk it as much as possible by the time it loses screen space in week 2 & 3.
He is saying that single screens are at 50% today while multiplexes are at 90%. Obviously it can put up the biggest numbers if the latter keep holding up.
He said that yesterday . Multiplexes cant be 90% today its a working day .
“He is saying that single screens are at 50% today while multiplexes are at 90%”
You are mixing that. That was his tweet early monday morning and more of ‘hope’ and by the end of the day he accepted he’s wrong and posted the above tweet saying he is 100% wrong.
No he tweeted that on Sunday evening/night . Earlier this morning he tweeted this ‘ kamaalrkhan @ DM FAV RT ? 11 hours ago
If today #Sultan will be able to collect approx 10Cr then my business rating will be correct if more, then wrong, so let’s wait till evening ‘ .
of course I always wonder why the SRK, Salman (and now evidently Akshay) fans (not to mention some others) are quite happy to rejoice in the success of a number of stars not called Aamir! I’ve long held the thesis that Aamir provokes an anxiety that the others don’t (in each others’ fans). Again what’s common is that whatever the debate Aamir is the excluded guy. His success is always accepted the most grudgingly and this has been the case for very long. Not that it matters one way or the other (his box office record would seem to prove this rather easily) but it’s amusing to see the same folks turn around and then accuse others of being biased. Once more whether I like a star or not I’m not in a war with the facts. Which is more than can be said for some of these other fans!
You talk about Ghajini trending a lot on this forum..Talaash, D3 and even PK could not emulate the same..maybe time to accept that trending norms are changing or Aamir is not in the zone as he was
Yes and all those films have more or less been held to those standards.
Talaash was not too bad but clearly audience did not like it.
D3 was a huge under performer, felt this at the time. The script was interesting but the screenplay & action nowhere near as clean as D2.
PK clearly not Hirani’s best film…probably his style is getting stale. Ultimately film was saved by Aamir’s performance.
The difference for D3 & PK is they DID break all time records…no Salman film has despite multiple films breaking opening day, weekend, weekday records.
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All predictions are failing for #Sultan including mine. No one knows where this film is going. Its creating new BoxOffice records every day.
This last one brings so many memories and have watched so many movies at Paradise when it was Calcutta
Karan Johar and Ekta Kapoor were among the producers present at Aamir Khan’s residence on Friday to discuss the issue of online leaks of new releases.
In particular, the issue of Great Grand Masti, being preponed from July 22 to July 15 due to online leaks, came up. With Sultan having a three-week contract with theatre chains all over India, theatre availability for GGM at such short notice, would be a matter of concern.
Says a source in the know, “Since Aditya Chopra was not present at the meeting, Aamir and the other bigwigs from film industry phoned Adi asking for theatres for Great Grand Masti. To his credit, Adi, who is known not to budge an inch to accommodate films of other producers, agreed to share theatres screening his Sultan with Great Grand Masti.”
Says the source. “This is a first for Adi. He realises the critical situation regarding piracy and online leaks, since Sultan was also leaked.” Well indeed this show that Mr. Perfectionist shares a great bond with the head honcho of Yash Raj Films. Also after the super success of Dhoom 3 we are eager to watch Dangal star working yet again with Aditya and YRF. What say Bollywoodlifers?
Sultan had a strong hold on Monday as it grossed an excellent 16 crore nett. The drop is around 50% from Friday which is a normal drop but the difference here is that it was not a normal weekend but a huge five day weekend where the film has already consumed around 180 crore nett business. So dropping 50% in this case is excellent.
The weekend smashed all records but on Monday the records have not come as the 20 crore nett plus Monday films have either been on holiday or kept on weekend ticket rates and here none of these apply. The major chains have seen a 25-30% drop in tickets rates as they were inflated a little for the five day weekend.
The film will become the first film in history to cross 200 crore nett in the first week with the seven day total cruising past to 208-210 crore nett. Now it will be about the crucial 8th day which decides the fate of most films, here its not about the fate as the weekend and now Monday as ensured a blockbuster but about where the film will eventually land up. The film does not have three open weeks like PK or two like Bajrangi Bhaijaan but is still looking to put up strong numbers for the next 2-3 weeks. .
I think we’re seeing a lot of excuses once more..! They’re certainly not as confident as some here about the film crossing Bajrangi or PK. If they were they would have said it.
It’s a decent hold, but I expected at least 20 cr with the excitement of forum. Might play out like BB where weekends are bigger & record breaking rather than weekdays.
Lets wait till Friday and then we will back track 🙂 But I think 350 is still on…as you said, the jump on weekends will be like BB. It is losing 2000 screens to GGM. Yraj agreed to this even though they had a 2 week contract.
I think this will fall short of P.K.
I think it will be 235cr week 1 (9 days), 62cr week 2 (I’ve assumed same trend of BB where the weekend grows big & baked in a similar thur-fri drop) taking it to 296cr after 2 weeks. It would need to match BB after week 2 to have any chance of catching P.K, which is quite tough. W2 – W4 all has competition & I suspect WOM is good but not on BB / P.K level. which is s fair assumption as good as Monday total is it needed to be on or more than 20 cr, wasn’t even close.
Matching or beating BB is a more realistic option.
Quite possible. The Monday numbers are definitely not great. Its 15.54 crs. The CI trend showed it much higher but its possible multiplexes went down as they do during weekdays. If it is around 12 cr on Friday its still possible but for that to happen it needs to overcome the 2000 screens it will lose to GGN by higher capacities.
One more thing, the ticket rates were ridiculously high for sultan. The theatre I saw was charging 400 buck and usually they charge around 300…Around 20 crores would have been due to the hike in price.
The silver lining is that the third week of the movie has only Madaari coming so if GGN is not up to the mark the third week hold will be stronger than BB
Hmm…BB was 12.8 on second Friday, PK was around 14cr. But both were at 182 cr after 1st week and this will be 50 crores ahead. So considering BB was at 12.8, as long as Sultan doesn’t drop below 10 cr on Friday (and considering it has an headstart of 50 cr), it should break the record. What say?
I suggest you do a daily estimate and see where you land. Sultan could very well drop below 10cr on Fri. Just apply a 10% daily drop till thursday and a slightly more severe drop for fri (exactly what happened to BB).
The headstart is all fine but P.K made some 155 cr from week 1 onwards & BB some 138 cr. These are tough totals. Sultan will only need 100cr. With less screens. Tough I’d say.
“Hmm…BB was 12.8 on second Friday, PK was around 14cr”
More critically, Sultan’s Monday gross is the same as BB’s 7th day gross. So basically from hear on in, it is likely to be behind BB on a daily basis…the 50 cr lead will be chipped away daily.
The Mumbai of today has become synonymous with crowded trains, traffic jams among other troubles. We rewind to the time when the city was a calm, serene place..
Haven’t seen Sultan as of now. It will go on to become a big grosser or perhaps the biggest. Big challenge for Aamir…Salman is undisputed number 1 thanks to volume and the grosses.
Director Indra Kumar has confirmed that the sequel to ‘Dil’ will go on floors this year.
Director Indra Kumar, who has to his credit films like Dil, Beta, Ishq, Dhamaal, Masti franchise to name a few, has confirmed that he is planning to make a sequel to his 1990 hit film Dil which originally starred Aamir Khan and Madhuri Dixit in the leads.
The Ishq helmer was interacting with the media at a promotional event held for his upcoming flick Great Grand Masti, which is the third film in the Masti franchise. When asked about the rumours of a sequel to Dil are true, the filmmaker revealed that “I again want to go back to romance. Mere andar is umar mein phir se romance jaag raha hai (at this age, romance is once again awakening in me). and I want to do a romantic film now.”
He further said that the sequel to Dil is most likely to go on floors this year. However, the cast of the sequel has not been revealed yet. Kumar is working on the script and songs of the sequel as of now and the cast has not been finalised.
The Eid release has been on a record breaking spree…
Salman Khan‘s Sultan has performed tremendously well at the box office. The film received fabulous reviews from both the critics and the audience. In fact, even though the Eid date shifted on the last day, the film stood strong and performed phenomenally at the domestic and International box office. Sultan has already collected Rs 180.36 crore at the end of its first weekend and broken several records. And with a good word of mouth of publicity flowing for the film, it is all set to break a few more records. However, there are three records that Sultan could not break. Yes, Salman’s Eid release couldn’t break three records set by Shah Rukh Khan‘s films.Take a look right here:
Highest opening day collection
Sultan collected Rs 36.54 crore on day one, which was lesser than the opening day collections of Shah Rukh Khan’s Happy New Year (Rs 44.97 crore). It was also lesser than his last release – Prem Ratan Dhan Payo‘s opening day collection of Rs 40.35 crore.
Highest 3-day collections
Shah Rukh Khan’s Happy New Year still holds the record for the highest 3-day collection. If you remember, the Diwali release had collected Rs 108.86 crore in 3 days. Sultan also came close to beating the this record but ended up just short as it collected Rs 105.34 crore.
Highest overseas opener
Salman Khan’s Sultan opened very well at the overseas market as it collected Rs 20.50 crore on day 1. However, it couldn’t cross the highest overseas opening day collection of Dilwale, which stands at Rs 22.61 crore.
If PK record is broken by Sultan, will SRK fans still root for Salman or go back to SRK? Or they became Salman fans because SRK disappoints them nowadays? Have they given up on their idol?
Perdonally, Its more about movie. If I like Dangal, I will hope it breaks Sultan’s collections. I have favorite stars but biggest motivation is movie itself and am not some teen movie fan. I only liked BB and Sultan..not other southern remake his by Salman.
Also favorite star has nothing to do with boxoffice. Your favorite can be even Nawazuddin or Irrfan and they are not even real stars for boxoffice. Just coz few films underperform, they don’t cease to be favourite.
Not everyone is like you sanjana who jumped from Srk to Aamir and tomorrow maybe Ajay Devgn.
I am different. It is not about movies but personality which make me some someone’s fan.
More than his movies, I am a fan of his personality.
Even if akshay or salman are extremely successful, I am not motivated to see their movies nowadays. I still prefer to watch their past works.
As for srk, his outward bubbliness does not fool me. He has a serious side to him which he is not revealing too much. Maybe through some films he gives vent to his inner feelings.
If I talk about films only, Rajesh Khanna’s films always make me smile and sad. His personility does not make me dislike his films.
Sultan has had the sixth highest Monday ever but it is the highest ever if we don’t count holiday releases or film where the ticket rates were kept high on weekdays as it was a holiday period. Below are the top ten first Monday collections of all time..
1. Krrish 3 – 29.64 crore (Holiday)
2. Bajrangi Bhaijaan – 26.78 crore (Holiday)
3. PK – 21.15 crore (Enhanced Ticket Rates)
4. Dhoom 3 – 19.87 crore (Enhanced Ticket Rates)
5. Ek Tha Tiger – 18.96 crore (Holiday)
6. Sultan – 15.50. apprx
7. Singham Returns – 14.69 crore
8. Kick – 13.86 crore
9. Happy New Year – 12.74 crore
10. Prem Ratan Dhan Payo – 12.52 crore
Sultan is the only film to go over 15 crore nett where the Monday is a regular Monday like for the majority of releases. PK and Dhoom 3 were both christmas releases so although the Monday for them was not a official holiday, the ticket rates were kept high through the first seven days (more for PK) to benefit from the Christmas period.
If we compare with a Dhoom 3 or PK, Sultan has had double the consumption before the Monday, in another words almost twice the number of people have seen and then Monday is just 20% less than those films despite it being screened on lower ticket rates.
Comparing sultan numbers with D3/PK saying latter had higher ticket rates but they wont mention the highest ever tickets rates for Sultan over the 5 day weekend .. who will take that into account and what about the numbers of screens ? also i dont believe the 3 year old D3 had higher ticket rates on weekdays than Sultan .
With the kind of reporting to justify why x, y & z fail to beat other films, I’d not take it seriously. The pure collections & drops/trends speak greater volumes. Everything else is noise and demand/supply.
Footfalls is another debunk idea – it totally misses the social divide created by ticket pricing. It’s all demand and supply at the end of the day. If there is a demand to sell tickets so high, people will do it. It’s whether they have priced correctly to maximise revenue that counts.
Lowering or increasing prices affects demand, its whether the demand is elastic or inelastic to know if the impact is positive or negative.
In layman terms Salman & SRK are inelastic superstars who have very loyal fans quite happy to run to the screen FDFS. Aamir stars in more inelastic demand films where there is strong feeling from audience that the film will be good to watch and he probably captures non loyal fans as a result.
Akshay is learning to make the transition but I think he does too many films to have the big box office impact.
Poor Hrithik has tried for ages but is just a poor man’s Aamir stuck in the middle – either sticking or twisting. Essentially following Aamir without the script sense.
Sultan continued its great run at the box office on Monday with collections in the 16 crore nett region. The film had ticket rates at multiplexes come to normal levels and the drop in rates were was more than normal as ticket rates were inflated to highest rates ever over the five day weekend. The collections are down 50% from Friday but footfalls are down just 30%. The collections of Sultan till date are as follows.
Friday – 36.59,00,000
Thursday 37,25,00,000
Friday – 31,50,00,000
Saturday – 36,50,00,000
Sunday 38,25,00,000
Monday – 16,00,00,000 apprx
TOTAL – 196.09 crore apprx
The film is going be the first film to cross 200 crore nett in a week as its heading for a 210 crore apprx first week beating the previous record by an insane 27 crore nett apprx. The extended nine day week will fall in the 230-235 crore nett range and then comes the crucial 8th day which will give a idea where the film will go in terms of lifetime business.
The early release of Great Grand Masti means the film will not get a clear run like the other big films like Bajrangi Bhaijaan, PK and Dhoom 3 got and although Great Grand Masti is not a huge film it will be a film aiming at a 2000 screen release which will hit the screen space of Sultan.
This was one instance, there was another question by a person, who we believe was a Salman Khan fan (coz his handle had Sultan with a lovey dovey heart). This one was curious to know why SRK had snubbed his friends and blocked them on Twitter. SRK without an ounce of bad behaviour or rudeness spelled out the reason and wrote, “Bad language…ill thoughts…rude ideas…negative radical views…I don’t need.”
Technically and for reasonable minds comparing apples to apples and going by the acceptance level, this movie released on Dec 18th does 400crs net biz by Jan 5 when all is said and done. So that topic should be closed.
In current scenario due to front loading this may still trend at decent levels during weekdays but at much larger scale during weekend/ holidays and get to her 300 in short period of time. There is whole bunch of domestic crowd gearing up for 2nd viewing and in my estimation 2nd weekend (fri- sun) numbers will be anywhere from 55-65cr net inspite of GGM.
The technical issues always come out after collections not before. Now its just plain & simple revision of hyperbola and corrections taking place. Everyone is fretting that their free reign judgement whilst watching the film in amongst a festival crowd (mostly salman fans) has biased their box office collection prediction & frantically running round to find a dossier of excuses to support a 400 cr conclusion at Xmas.
No need there is every chance still that Sultan will beat P.K! No need to come up with excuses now – should of layed them out weeks ago.
what I don’t understand as a matter of simple common sense is that since all of these ‘conditions’ hold and are known prior to release why do folks nonetheless make these claims? Why not just wait a bit and crow about it later? Specially when 99% of big films not starring Aamir fizzle out irrespective of the ‘historic’ starts? Not just big films. Most Bollywood films these days are weak on trending. If one knows these things (release date, competition et al) and one nonetheless makes those claims one obviously believes that the highest numbers are still possible. I actually agree! If Sultan is liked as much as Bajrangi there is nothing that will stop it from crossing PK! It might do it anyway (though I’ve always doubted this.. mostly because of the WOM.. even early on I heard lots of negative views from people I knew whereas on Bajrangi it was really hard to find anyone) but the point is that all of these excuses simply don’t hold water. Leaving aside the fact that they sound silly on their own. A ‘hurricane’ of a film, ‘historic’ in every sense… but oops a half-signifcant release and there go all the records! This happens because people commit to a thesis and then try very hard to make the evidence match it.
Some of us have always had a much simpler explanation. Of course Salman can get to the biggest grosses the way he opens films. But it’s always improbable because his films by and larger trend weakly. And this because he doesn’t do sensible films. Now saying that he can suddenly become like Aamir is itself an imaginary position. Because his market is premised on doing the ‘trashy’ (let’s call it by its proper name…) for the most part. This is what his stardom is based on. Once you go down that route it’s hard to find good scripts in contemporary Bollywood. Bajrangi was an exception but also not the usual Salman film in a number of ways. Sultan on the other hand is par for the course. You have a Yashraj film, mounted that way and so on but at bottom it’s still a pretty mediocre film (and I’m being kind). Compared to this Ghajini is a total classic (even if the same folks pretend not to see this). You know what kind of film it’s going to be the day Salman signs it. If he were in Tamil films he might get good scripts from time to time though even there masala stars those days mostly do completely run of the mill stuff. Telugu is even worse and Salman is very much in that lineage. Now this works for him and that’s great. He’s appealing in those roles, his record has been astonishing since Dabanng in terms of pulling initials, no one’s denying any of this. But all the hype in the world cannot make a film trend strongly. Ultimately it has to be liked enough at any end of the production spectrum. EVen competition can hurt a film on the gross but not change it’s overall trending trajectory (Singham/ZNMD anyone?!). But especially with a star like Salman in a big film no one’s going to skip the film if they were otherwise going to watch it just because a Masti sequel is releasing. That’s absurd. As for the screen count that’s ridiculous too because in multiplexes these days there are enough shows all the time. Hourly shows and shows every 2-3 hrs is not a huge difference. Again no one says ‘I wanted to watch Sultan but it’s a 9:30 show, not an 8:30 and so I’ll miss it’. And yashraj if anything will ensure a certain screen count irrespective of everything else. The lower number is also a red herring. Because they will have the best screens and the best timings for their films. Everyone knows this. It’s dishonest to pretend otherwise. There is no record that Sultan cannot put up in week 2 if it’s otherwise on that course because of a Masti sequel. None whatsoever. And of course what happened yesterday? Why wasn’t it the 20 plus Mon everyone was talking about? In fact from day 1 hasn’t this been the case? The film has put up massive numbers but not quite as high as everyone predicted. On day 1 it was supposed to be well in excess of 40. What happened? Evening shows didn’t come through? But the same folks then keep predicting again and again and again. People are constantly wrong but this never stops them from making equally confident predictions the next time around. And if one is depending on a source for the info one should fire that source! One might have the strongest possible wish to have SRK or Salman get to Aamir’s numbers but hey just wishing ain’t getting it done! And how many chance does Salman need after these massive initials to prove this? Again I don’t have anything against Sultan crossing PK. The facts are what they are. If it happens great for Salman. Greater still for the anti-Aamir folks who’ll pretend that this wipes out more than a decade of post-Lagaan history. Yeah.. whatever.
**As for the screen count that’s ridiculous too because in multiplexes these days there are enough shows all the time. Hourly shows and shows every 2-3 hrs is not a huge difference. Again no one says ‘I wanted to watch Sultan but it’s a 9:30 show, not an 8:30 and so I’ll miss it’.**
Well said. I have always had this issue with regard to this issue of screen-count.
I am not very well-aware about the multiplex-system in India but..
1) If a person/family wants to see SULTAN or any movie, they will see it at a time convenient to them. For instance, if the evening shows are cut down on week-days in the 2nd week, won’t they wait to watch it at a time convenient to them on the week-end? Will they ALTOGETHER skip the movie? The monies it would be accumulating on a Wednesday would now be pushed to coming Sat or Sun. But it is still accumulating isn’t it?
2) Cutting down the shows/distance:
Let’s say shows are cut down on the week-days in R MALL, Mulund. Folks living close to this mall now only have the option of going to Cinemax Odeon, Ghatkoper. It definitely is an inconvenience for them since they can’t come back from work and immediately drive or catch the local to Ghatkoper and reach before 6 or 7 pm. Won’t these folks wait til the week-end? Ditto if one has to go from Old Rajender Nagar to Vasant Kung in ND or even from Malleshwaram to JP NAGAR in Bangalore..
3) I feel it is actually more problematic in the US. For instance, Marathi movies are rarely released in DC or Baltimore. One has to drive all the way to Virginia, if luckily enough Marathi movie finds a showtime. Even then, it will be set at 8:30 AM on a Sunday, for one show! It is difficult as it is — for me at least — to get up at 7 and go to work daily. Why would I want to get up at 6:30 AM on a Sunday after I am drunk on a Saturday? And I am actually a guy who is very hungry for Marathi movies. I wouldn’t want to miss them. [I missed RAMAN RAGHAV for this reason itself].
4) The ‘Would Like To’/’Will Not’ list:
The ones who wait till the 3rd or 4th week to watch a movie would be the non-fans of the star and so, they wouldn’t be very interested in watching the movie but then they will watch the movie ONLY if the WOM is too good. Somebody like me is not even an audience for SULTAN. I might watch it but just don’t care if I miss it. I will catch it free later. [Master has already watched it twice; the second time for me – so Arbaaz and Sohail didn’t miss out on their income.]
So folks like should not even be included in the ‘potential’ end-figure calculation.
Again, I am neither very interested nor very knowledgeable on BO matters but just provided some thought-process..
Somebody like Krish or Jayshah who are more invested in BO can provide information as to how multiplex shows-contracts [if any] work in India [for instance, do you HAVE to cut down shows even if your movie is doing very well and earning moolah at the BO in its 4th week to give space to upcoming movies? Even if the upcoming movie carries a negative report?]
Agree everyone making predictions barring a couple (no names mentioned) are sensible. They know the holidays (where collections go up), ticket pricing (when they come down), competition (when future releases are coming & impact it can have on collections). Pre-release predictions take this into account. Yet everyone throws 400cr or 350cr (BB, PRDP, Dilwale & and Sultan) like anything…and then excuses on screens/competition/ticket pricing & EID vs. Diwali vs. Xmas are used to adjust the prediction & ultimately diminish the chap who is 5 foot 5 inches who has only released TZP/Ghajini/3 Idiots/D3/PK over Xmas over a 9 year period.
Never mind Akshay’s BB flop TMK, Salman’s Dabanng 2 which opened well but trended averagely & SRK’s Don 2 doing much the same – ALL on XMAS!
The only excuse not used yet is the rumour that Aamir has agreed with every producer & exhibitor to ensure his films is always top – a contract signed since 2008 with only 1 life (Chennai Express)!
Funnily I read the discussion on GGM screen share between GGM & Yashraj took place at Aamir’s residence!!! That wily old fox probably brokered the deal! Those grey hairs are not just for show!
My few cents on this…Not specific to Sultan but in general
When a movie announces a release date, it books the screens before announcing it. That’s the reason they are confident enough to book a screen months or even years in advance. They will book not just the best screens in a multiplex, but also the best shows in a single screen.
Losing a screen typically in a multiplex means you are down by 8-10 shows. For big movies multiplexes might have 3-4 screens playing and one of them might be very high capacity than the others. So if a new movie comes either the movie is shifted to a smaller screen or if it is not grossing enough will be moved out. The best example is the Sathyam chain in Chennai…Sathyam theatre is the highest grossing screen, there are 11 other theatres in the chain, the others have screen capacity from 30 to 100 but nothing matches the earning from the main screen.
In Single screen usually this means shifting the movie to a single show in the matinee or in most cases losing the screen altogether.
Another factor is that this tussle for screens is not just with another Bollywood movie, the competition is also with regional movies. So a Sultan doesn’t stand a chance in kerala to get good screens as they will go to Kasaba…
The terms of contract during release will mean that irrespective of how the previous movie is faring, it will make way for the next movie assuming that producer has already made some agreement with the theatre chain or single screen owner.
Losing a screen in a place like Mumbai might not be that much visavis losing a screen in a place like Jaipur or even in a more A grade city like Bangalore or Chennai. A person in Mulund has options of theatres in Bhandup, Huma theatres in Kanjurmarg, Thane and so on. But in smaller cities like Jaipur for example, the main single screen is Raja Mandir which has a huge capacity. if you lose that theatre you lose pretty much the entire single screen revenue of Jaipur which is a mass + Class centre. Now extrapolate this to thousands of small cities in India where typically they all will have 1 screen playing of the movie. Even in a place like Bangalore which is a A centre, travelling from Malleswaram to JP nagar is not a sure case unless the family is a die hard fan of that star. As a family man with 2 kids, I can speak for myself, I am pretty much stuck to Cinepolis and will not go to any other theatre due to the proximity. So since Finding Dory was not playing in 2D I skipped that movie. This is also true for a lot of people who avoid multiplexes due to the costs involved. To take an example from Bangalore, The IT crowd in the Tavarekere area would primarily prefer Srinivas or Laxmi single screen theatre to a Forum. If a movie moves from there they skip the movie.
Again moving the movie to a smaller screen leads to invariably capacity problems. Sathyam in Chennai is again an excellent example. The smaller screens of Sathyam will always be full doesn’t matter what movie is running. So if someone is specifically seeking out a movie playing in a smaller screen, you are likely to go back without seeing that movie.
The other point is not everyone is as star focused as some are and will catch the stars movie whatsoever happens. For many movie is just an impulse decision.
Finally the number of examples we have of movies suddenly experiencing a drop in collections are many. Jay was alluding earlier to me to consider the Thurs to Fri drop of Sultan due to the loss in screens. Because he knows its a reality.
Three very good examples I can think of. Chennai express collected 12+ cr on Wednesday (Thursday was a holiday so I will ignore) and was showing less than 10% drop till then day by day, then suddenly on Friday it was at 6 crs – a 50% drop from Wednesday. People suddenly didnt change their liking for the movie over Thursday. Its just that it lost 1500 screens to OUATIM2. Same for PK which dropped suddenly by 30% between Week 3 and 4 Or BB which dropped by 30% between Week 2 and 3. A movie which is showing less than 10% drop every day , suddenly on a Friday develops a huge drop. That happens because screens stop playing the movie, people who anyways have tons of other choices to watch also has options to seek from.
Satyams theory that whoever wants to see the movie will seek it and see it even if it not playing is a good one on paper but unfortunately it doesn’t work that way in reality. Movie watching is all about convenience and accessibility and this problem is more so in a place which is not a Mumbai or Delhi
Now GGN releasing a week after Sultan was not supposed to happen. Ekta films had planned the release only two weeks after Sultan. But due to piracy they had to release it earlier and YRaj films have accommodated them keeping aside the contract.
It makes sense but my caveat would be in a theatre that was going 100% capacity & suddenly loses some shows & suddenly has 50% capacity, the gap can’t be attributed to what you say. The capacity within a confined city/theatre is there. The movie going public has not shrunk just the accessibility, the capacity to fill the theatre is always there. So to Satyam’s point, there should a tick up in occupancy in some places to compensate a whole area losing its means to watch a film. Overall agree that it does impact, numbers prove it, but the impact for a movie that has good WOM is far less than one that doesn’t.
On CE going from 12 to 6 from wednesday to fri with a huge holiday in between is partly exhaustion on the thurs & partly loss of screens – but where screens are impacted but not accessibility, occupancy should be higher.
WOM is far more important as a flop film on 1000 screens going to 5000 screens is hardly going to increase collections massively – its a dud, a dud is a dud.
The theory should work both ways. Its mainly about WOM. Both HAHK & Vivaah proved this – releasing on small scale & gradually widening the accessibility -it only worked as the audience demanded it.
GGM will be a dud on release, its been pirated the impact will be short term.
“There is nothing to dislike in the movie. The movie is told in coherent way. But it is more like Indian soap with no depth.
*spoilers*
The conflict is laughable without any appreciable background. He left wrestling to grieve; then to redeem he wants to open blood bank and he joins wrestling/MMA again. Or he wanted the kid and aarfa was more in wrestling and she was persuaded by his happiness to have kid. But when the kid died she was more devastated and enraged enough to disown him. This was the backbone of the movie.
I though the writing was using convenient paths.”
“I am pretty sure in India also you do blood test when someone is pregnant to figure risks of pregnancy. Especially when you have One parent O negative. If mother is rh negative, you have to go through rhogham shot sequence.
Losing a kid towards end of pregnancy or after birth is devastating for both parents. But whole sequence in movie was half baked and simplistic.”
Rajkumar Hirani & Abhijhat Joshi | PK – The logic versus emotion debate
Anupama Chopra: After I saw the PK Abhijat, you and I had a long conversation and of course, I loved the first half but I talked to you about the things which I found emotionally unconvincing .You explained how as creative artists you took a call to allow things which you knew were flawed so that the larger emotional arc of a film can be served. How do you do that? How do you actually say, “Okay, this is not perfect but the bigger picture is better because of this.” Is it difficult? Is it instinctive? How do you take those calls?
AC: So in a sense, in storytelling, is emotion more important than logic?
Rajkumar Hirani: I think what is most important is engaging an audience. All of us, be it critics, be it filmmakers, we have lost the innocence of watching a film. We can never watch the film the way we watched it while we were students.Now every filmmaker I meet, they don’t come up with what they thought about the film, they say, “Arrey yaar! You are getting the girl at the 30th minute? That’s not the right thing to do. Plot point comes at this point.” So they come up with these kind of things, which when you talk to a normal audience, they don’t care. They want to be engaged, they are with you, they have walked into the hall, bought their ticket and say, “Come on now, entertain us.” I am not saying logic is not important. Logic is important. But you pick up your best film, you will find holes in it, because you are jumping in time, space constantly.
AC: And that’s creative liberty.
AJ: Like in Lage Raho Munna Bhai, Jimmy Shergill’s character calls the radio station at a certain time, and at one point we realized that how does Jimmy Shergill know that Munna will be at the radio station but we realized nobody else in the world is going to think about, so we let it pass.
RH: No, because what happens is that when you create logic to match that, you are actually disengaging the audience. You are spending 30 seconds of screen time to get the logic right which is actually disengaging them from drama…..
agreed that the crisis was absurd. [SPOILERS] Can the poor guy really be blamed for wanting to fight for another championship when that’s his profession and when nothing indicates that there will be a problem with the pregnancy?
Bajrangi Bhaijaan vs Sultan vs PK: Box Office Collections
Only two films have crossed the 300 crore mark so far: Aamir Khan – Anushka – Rajkumar Hirani’s PK and Salman Khan – Kabir Khan’s Bajrangi Bhaijaan. Salman, under Ali Abbas Zafar’s direction and Anushka as his lead heroine, will have yet another go at the 300 crore club, as his latest release ‘Sultan’ has already collected ₹ 181 crore in 5 days at the box office.
Release factors in favour and against all three films:
PK (December 2014) : 3900 screens, highest average ticket price, 3 open weeks, no competition
Bajrangi Bhaijaan (July 2015) : 4000 screens, lowest average ticket price (compared to other two), 2 open weeks, competition from
Baahubali
Sultan (July 2016) : 4350 screens, 2nd highest average ticket price, 1 open week, competition from Great Grand Masti from Week 2.
July 11 Update: At the end of 5 days, Bajrangi Bhaijaan had collected 151.05 crore, PK had collected ₹ 135.79 crore and Sultan has accumulated ₹ 180.36 crore. So, Salman Khan’s latest release is ₹ 29.31 crore ahead of Bajrangi Bhaijaan and a whopping ₹ 44.57 crore ahead of PK. Interestingly, the highest single day of Sultan was lower than the highest single day of both Bajrangi Bhaijaan and PK!
On Day 6, PK collected ₹ 19.55 crore, while Bajrangi Bhaijaan notched up ₹ 18.05 crore. Both were working weekdays. But since Sultan had a extended 5-day weekend, during which business was at a very high level throughout, it’ll be interesting to see where Monday finishes for Sultan.
We’ll be analysing the trend over the next few days. Even if Sultan collects about half of what PK collected after its first 5 days, the film will cross the 300 crore mark. If it matches pace and collects as much as PK did, then it’ll get close to the unbelievable 400 crore mark! If it collects as well as Bajrangi Bhaijaan, it’ll be the highest grosser of all time and cross the 350 crore mark!
July 12 Update: Sultan has collected Rs 15.54 crore on its 6th day at the box office, which is the same as what Bajrangi Bhaijaan collected on its 7th day. The reduction in multiplex ticket prices, along with a majority of audience watching the film in the first extended weekend itself – meant that the film had a ‘bigger-than-expected’ drop on Monday. At the end of the 6th day, Bajrangi Bhaijaan had collected 169.1 crore, while PK had collected 163.34 crore. Sultan is ahead of BB by 26.8 crore and PK by 32.56 crore. The gap with PK has reduced quite considerably and should decrease further tomorrow, because the Christmas holiday was on the 7th day of its run.
From the first Monday collections of Sultan – one thing is clear, the 400 crore mark is now beyond the reach of the film and even becoming the highest grosser of all time could prove to be difficult. However, it does have a good chance of crossing the 300 crore mark and even challenging the lifetime business of Bajrangi Bhaijaan (possibly even PK, if picks up in the 2nd weekend). The release of Great Grand Masti won’t have a big impact on Sultan, but on a lower level, it will definitely make a small dent on business – because a section of the audience will have a choice to make and the repeat audience at smaller centres could also reduce.
This page will be updated everyday.
Day Bajrangi Bhaijaan PK Sultan
Day 1 27.25 26.63 36.54
Day 2 36.60 30.34 37.32
Day 3 38.75 38.24 31.67
Day 4 27.05 21.22 36.62
Day 5 21.4 19.36 38.21
Day 6 18.05 19.55 15.54
Day 7 15.55 27.55
First Week 184.65 cr 182.89 cr
Day 8 12.80 14.55
Day 9 19.25 17.12
Day 10 24.05 22.25
Day 11 9.30 10.08
Day 12 9.10 9.11
Day 13 7.10 9.05
Day 14 6.03 13.48
Two Week 272.28 cr 278.53 cr
Day 15 4.11 6.85
Day 16 6.80 8.32
Day 17 9.07 11.58
Day 18 2.75 4.42
Day 19 2.63 4.02
Day 20 2.45 3.46
Day 21 2.25 2.96
Three Week Total 302.34 cr 320.14 cr
Day 22 1.45 1.82
Day 23 2.73 2.82
Day 24 3.51 4.01
Till Fourth weekend 310.03 cr 328.79 cr
Remaining weeks 10.45 11.81
India Collections 320.48 cr 340.6 cr 195.9 cr
Overseas Collections 193.52 cr 306.1 cr 92.0 cr (5 days)
A clash with another film featuring the powerhouse Irrfan Khan would have made matters progressively worse. But not anymore. Madaari’s director, Nishikant Kamat, has revealed that he, along with his producers, has decided to push the release date of his film thereby giving GGM a clear window.
In a statement shared with the press, Kamat said, “While we were apprehensive to shift our date again to 22 July, we felt strongly that the cause of piracy owing to the leak of Great Grand Masti was more crucial, and as creative people we must all support each other and create an eco-system where we hopefully can survive through such tactical ways to fight back things like piracy.”
This isn’t the first time the Irrfan Khan starrer’s release has been pushed. Earlier, it was set to open on June 10 but the makers moved the dates to avoid a clash with the Amitabh Bachchan starrer Te3n.
Madaari isn’t the only film that is going out of its way to help GGM. According to a dna report, Aditya Chopra, producer of the recently released blockbuster Sultan, has agreed to share screens with the beleaguered film.
Umair Sandhu @sandhumerry 39m39 minutes ago
Celebration Time for Fans! #Sultan crossed ” 200 cr ” in India in Just 7 Days. All Time Record Blockbuster!
Mister Chang @MeiyangChang 1h1 hour ago Mumbai, India
Man! Sooo much love for my work in #Sultan .Merci! 😘 Would u believe I haven’t watched it yet myself? Sultan SLAM! 😆
dnaVerified account @dna 2h2 hours ago
Rs 344.5 crore! That’s how much #SalmanKhan’s #Sultan has collected worldwide in just 5 days
Joginder Tuteja @Tutejajoginder 2h2 hours ago
Box Office – #Sultan goes past Happy New Year, 3 Idiots and Ek Tha Tiger lifetime today @bollyreflection
Joginder Tuteja @Tutejajoginder 25m25 minutes ago
#Sultan enters #200CroreClub. @BeingSalmanKhan’s fourth after #BajrangiBhaijaan #Kick #PremRatanDhanPayo
RAJ BANSAL @rajbansal9 4h4 hours ago
#Sultan is almost at par with Monday s collection.
PJ @Prakashjaaju 3h3 hours ago Mumbai, India
#Sultan bahut tez dauda tha isliye saans lene ke liye thoda slow hua hai, Saturday se phir daudegaa.
REAL BOXOFFICE-INDIA @RealBoxofice 7m7 minutes ago
#Sultan (Filtered By @RealBoxofice )
1st Weekend :- 181.49cr
Mon :- 16.34cr
Total (6 Days) :- 197.83cr
ALL TIME BLOCKBUSTER HIT (HISTORY) !!
Nopes that was just a function of multiplying the CI numbers of 0.72 crs by a factor of 25. That’s the arithmetic which usually one does to get to a quick estimate. Then you should add a few crores to that number as CI is more single screen intensive than rest of territories specially if it is a more multiplex centric movie. This is tried and tested method in the trade world. You can try it yourself. It will work for most of the movies. 🙂
P Jaju does this all the time sitting in Indore. He has no clue what is happening in the metroes but will give numbers. And invariably he will go wrong in a mass centric movie 😉
According to Taran Tues is 12.92cr, 17% drop from yesterday. Addatoday/Indicine reporting same so that must be producers total.
These trends don’t suggest to me that competition would have impacted Sultan’s chances to beat P.K. Only thing that impacted it was overzealous predictions. Now competition may impact the 300 crore mark, let’s see.
Of course its a guess but not a random one…CI dropped to 0.55 crs from 0.71 crs..a roughly 20% drop…applied that maths to all India…
I don’t have any sources to get numbers otherwise 🙂
Sultan set a huge record for week one as its first week collections went to 208 crore nett plus. This beats the previous first week record of Bajrangi Bhaijaan by a huge 26 crore nett. On the other hand the film also saw its first noticeable drop on day seven after a huge run as it dropped 15% apprx from the previous day. The collections of Sultan till date are as follows.
Friday – 36,59,00,000
Thursday 37,25,00,000
Friday – 31,50,00,000
Saturday – 36,50,00,000
Sunday 38,25,00,000
Monday – 15,50,00,000
Tuesday – 13,00,00,000 apprx
TOTAL – 208.59 crore apprx
The film has basically done the business of films like Chennai Express and Kick in seven days. The extended first week is going to close at around 230 crore nett and where it lands on its second Friday will determine its lifetime business.
after all that smack talk on here…if this movie doesn’t reach 300cr…lol i’m not rooting one way or another but my only advice is always trust the sensible level headed people on here…always.
Smack talk will never stop. Only biggie left in year that can be top grosser or challenger to Sultan is Dangal. Rustom & Mohenjo Daro are on a path of collision so won’t be a top grosser. Both stars are not top grosser material anyway.
Runs on the board is what matters 337. A lightning start does not guarantee anything…neither does a slightly weaker start (P.K). Right now, Sultan is like 208-5 chasing 337 on a dodgy wicket & behind on duckworth lewis, tough run chase…the predictors of 350-400 cr better hope its Tendulkar, Lara, Richards, Bradman & Sobers coming in to bat next.
Weekdays are just a temporary stumbling block after extreme front loading and this being a family fare, the movie is likely to come into its own during weekends. This is not going to fizzle out soon. PRPD, HNY, Kick etc the cracks were visible within 2 days of the release.
“Movie doing good in 2nd, 3rd, 4th week is not because of the star but because of the movie itself.”
WOM is strong apparantly at least according to a few here so this should sustain.
We’ve established Salman is a superstar with a spat of stunning openers – the exercise now is to see if the predictors can predict good things after seeing the film; as their critical judgement is on the line. They have that advantage seeing the film, making glowing predictions. I’m just an armchair amateur observer making my observations.
It’s petty I know but nothing makes me smile more than mature grown ups throwing toys out of their prams.
I haven’t seen the film so I can’t comment, can’t remember the last salman film I’ve seen in a theatre.
I’m sure a lot of people who were throwing out the numbers had not seen it either and were just going based on the collection in starting days.
Regardless, the point is the film collecting 208 crore in 7 days flat is amazing and should be celebrated. Not look for excuses to bring it down.
Another thing to look at is the business side of it, I would think the movie making 200 crore in 7 days is more profitable than the one making 200 crore in 175 days.
As an investor I will take 200 crore in 7 days anyday over having the movie open to 50 crore in week 1 and then it make 200 crore total in 25 weeks.
An investor yes. But as an audience or film maker/actor etc, there is much more glory in seeing your film run in theaters for a long time & the long term cash earned is nothing to be snoozed at. The reputation gained, long term sustaining street credit etc.
Ultimately it’s a creative medium & one which audiences want to be entertained for.
Great films or music or art are not remembered on monetary return terms.
And none of us are investors here, we’re all watching films for a reason. Some maybe interested in numbers too like me but its rash for anyone to think the industry is built on around investment return.
Plus I am not snoozing at the stunning opening power of Salman, he’s the biggest star around but like you I rarely watch all his films in theaters so he hasn’t convinced us.
I’d liken it too shorting in the market vs. long term investing. Both can make you millions. Both have advantages for you. But only the latter is a truth that the investment was sound where more than one person could have benefited other than just you. You make a great film for someone that shocks & awes – they will keep coming back & remember it forever, make a lot of junk you’ll get some takers, some adoration but its not a good long term model of success.
I can multiply examples like one night stand vs. having partner for life / junk food vs. healthy diet – all very unrelated but some of the core pleasures/benefits remain same.
You’re a SRK fan because of his films or because how rich he is?
I don’t think there’s anybody making a film with not keeping financial gains in mind.
Long term run depends on a lot of factors, movie liked or not, is there a competition or not, did the film opened at huge or medium level, did you have Eid Diwali or Christams and new year release or not, etc…
We’re not going to get a Gadar in this day and age.
No one would think after Titanic you’d get another but then bang you get Avatar years later coincidentally from the same director – many years apart.
The people who are creative and put their heart in it will crack it one day.
Gadar might not happen but maybe what you get nowadays is a run like 3 idiots, no reason why a film today cannot match a pattern like that 7 years ago.
“I don’t think there’s anybody making a film with not keeping financial gains in mind.”
Read the article posted by M.S. Dhoni yesterday on Hirani/Joshi/Chopra discussing P.K’s second half. There is clear conviction in changing the second half as that story was told in Inception, creatively they went back to the table to optimise the outcome of the film to just make it work, keeping in mind engaging the audience & entertainment.
The reality is the industry has very little talent at this level to make things happen. If you are given rubbish to eat you will eat it to survive.
The thought is like yours…lets make D4 and stick Salman in there – we’ll find & make a script for him. The week 1 will cover all costs. Boom, we are on a winner.
Invert it. We have a script & certain budget. It suits this actor. It can be converted into the Dhoom Franchise. We can afford Salman. We can do it.
The greatest entrepreneurial ideas of the last 20 years are probably on the social media side. Hardly any would have been bankrolled by an existing tech company. Most were probably created by some whimsical fluke idea made out of a garden shed by some geeks who loved technology. And all are now billionaires. I doubt there first thought was I want to be on the Nasdaq or FTSE by next year (maybe a dream).
“The reality is the industry has very little talent at this level to make things happen.”
TRUE, and that should be kept in mind when we try to compare stardom from different era to current, not to mention the movie is available to stream the day it releases.
Imagine if todays stars had Manmohan Desai, prakash mehra, yash chopra, salim-javed, rafi-kishor, L-P, RD, K-A, etc to work with?
I think most of todays movies are worse than what we got from mithun in 90’s. At least they were some what entertaining.
“Imagine if todays stars had Manmohan Desai, prakash mehra, yash chopra, salim-javed, rafi-kishor, L-P, RD, K-A, etc to work with?”
The stars of today would ruin it with their financial demands. The fun is taken out with the pressure of money. I bet those folks you mentioned just enjoyed the process of making films & were less worried about what they took home in their pockets.
I have been wrong before in predictions, might go wrong again in future, but I don’t mind putting my head on the blocks by quoting a number. I said it will do 400, will fall well short. But whats wrong in getting a prediction wrong?
And I’ve got many a prediction wrong, revisit the archives here on my yearly predictions or NG, I’ve had bricks thrown at me longer than anyone barring the owner of the blog. But one prediction we’ve been right on since 2006 is Aamir and it annoys the f*&k out of people. Cos they keep coming back wishing that film number 1,0000,78963 will beat his collections. And that “long term” investment has many a laugh for me!
Krish, I’ll take posts from somebody like you (even if the prediction is wild).
It’s better than some who spends time trying to bring films down and when their fav actor films releases, they’re silent, they can’t even give prediction.
If any film will do 400 crore, it will be Dhoom 4 with Salman or Raj Kumar Hirani masala film (not the Sanjay Dutt biopic he is making) 🙂
Of course all the elements has to be there like Christmas/new year release, no compition, etc…
“I did not reference you & did not have you in mind when making that comment.”
Lol.. I guess only Krrish said 400 crore. Not sure who else predicted anything else apart from Krish and me. Personally I do no predictions and after watching it 1st day, I said it will do “around 300 crores” and after watching 2nd time on Saturday, I said it will do 350 as there was huge public reaction and majority of my family/friends loved it.
I think its fair to say it will still do around 300 crores.
I think film has a good chance of getting 350+ despite average performance in weekdays.Front loading in the extended weekend has affected the collections by 25-30%, people who would have watched in the weekdays have already seen it in the extended weekend. In addition repeat viewing will come forth in the second weekend only. I expect 45 crore + in two days Saturday and sundray. 2nd week should close around 75-80 crores. WOM is pretty good for the film. I haven’t met a single person who has disliked the film, though some have issues with the second half.
As for Aamir Dangal will be the decider. If it crosses Sultan then his supremacy over the box office can’t be questioned because He is the whole sole behind the movie. The director doesn’t boast of a great record neither it’s a big franchise. People have questioned his stardom on the basis of these two factors. If he succeeds without these he will be a winner but if doesn’t then people need to accept that he is definitely a lesser star then Salman. Quality and trending is a different thing altogether.
I believe that if Dangal is a well made film then 400 crores is on.Aamir has clearly mentioned that it’s a mainstream film so therefore there should not be any doubt regarding commercial viability of the subject.
I think people are in consensus 45 crore (or may be more) over the weekend. But it is difficult to do 75 in week. Why? Suppose it is doing 10 on friday. It probably will be doing 5 on monday. It will be more like 60 week. Based on what I am seeing 10 is difficult on friday.
Not very reliable these days, but still a trade person –
PJ @Prakashjaaju 12h12 hours ago Mumbai, India
#Sultan : First Week ends on 210 Cr.
Second week starts today …
PJ @Prakashjaaju 12h12 hours ago
My prediction of further business of #Sultan : From Today : 10,10,10,15,25,6,6,5,4 = 91 .. 210+91 …. 301 Cr in 2 weeks & 2 days.
Generally this has been a liked movie by average movie going audience and for it to trend one needs to be patient as we are only in the first week. We should give a verdict only on August 1 when 3 weeks are over. Would also say this movie has potential to get a decent innings in B &C centres in small towns and districts so domestic lifetime may pull on further.
Below are the numbers for BB and PK. The Christmas / New Year loss has already been made up by Sultan due to front loading so I still feel movie has a shot go beyond BB and PK.
but why does this ‘wait and watch’ attitude come in only when the numbers start getting lower? Why not the same when all sorts of predictions are made after one or two days? Secondly while anything is possible there is also something called ‘experience’ in these matters.
Of course 20 crores still separate BB from PK. Personally I have my doubts that Sultan will even touch BB.
as an aside BOI forgot to update for Tue even as they’re busy talking about week 1. On that note I can only repeat part of a comment from last week:
“If it was an end of the world event they’d say ‘the film couldn’t do 40 (or whatever) on opening day because too many people were trying to get off the planet and also some of the potential audience died in the morning therefore affecting the evening shows’, ‘Salman is still the top opener for all films released on the day the world ends’.”
Friday wont be more than 8 crores in any case. But I am expecting a huge jump on Saturday and Sunday . These two days should bring around 40-42 crores, besides this film will be more steady in its second weekend.
One more thing Eid is the best period to release the film and this year in a way 6th and 7th both were holiday. We have seen in the past too that films like Kick , CE , ETT have maintained good collections for 5-6 days because it’s an extended holiday period, the euphoria is at its zenith resulting in maximisation of collection in those days. A holiday coming on 7th or 10th day helps but not upto that extend. Sultan has fully exploited the benefit of holiday factor, final gross would have been a bit less if it would have released in new year or diwali
I don’t know but my Facebook feed, I haven’t seen many people going to check this movie apart from usual suspects. But for Bajrangi, there was a constant stream.
BB is a true blue family film. A film on wrestling that is part violent will lose some audience comparatively.
It’s losing steam on weekdays, Friday is key, needs to hold well to have a good second weekend.
Otherwise it’s trended pretty much like ETT & D3 both YRF, 10 day films mostly heavily front loaded on a bigger scale due to wider release/higher ticket prices.
**I believe that if Dangal is a well made film then 400 crores is on.Aamir has clearly mentioned that it’s a mainstream film so therefore there should not be any doubt regarding commercial viability of the subject.**
This expectation is nothing but an attempt to set up an extremely high bar only to label it a failure later. Even if you stretch it to any commercial length, there is just no way you can put SULTAN and DANGAL on the same planet.
DANGAL is a SOCIAL FAMILY drama; not a FAMILY drama per-se. Any film that is expecting the 400 cr kind of moolah needs a LOT of commercial elements. The very genre of DANGAL demands some kind of leash on commercial elements.
When Aamir says this is a commercial film, he only means this is NOT a docu-drama or a limited-audience social-satire like PEEPLI LIVE.
Secondly, the worrying factor is NITISH TIWARI, the director. So far, Aamir, post-Mela [except DHOOM, but that was a success commercially and it is like a junk-food franchise], hasn’t gone wrong in script-selection or the assignment of a director. But Nitish Tiwari is a very ordinary director except his outing with CHILLAR PARTY. BR was watchable in parts and elevated by Amitabh.
All these indicate there’s no way this is going to be on the same platform as SULTAN…
Well Aamir has done it quite a number of times in past , his records speaks for himself. How many people expected Ghajini to cross 100 crores. 3 idiots wasn’t a pure masala film but it went on to do 200+ . PK again wasn’t a pure masala was the first 300+ grosser and that too when the WOM wasn’t great. These all figures show that market has the potential but the current crop of stars excluding hasn’t been able to exploit it to the fullest. Only 3 idiots in the past 15 years is a true ATBB rest all have been awarded this status because trade didn’t expected those sort of numbers or rather they gave a glimpse on the potential of the market.
The promotion has already started for the film. The film is releasing during Christmas (though there are no extra holidays during Christmas ), if the product is well made then anything is possible because repeat audiences are always there for these type of movies
Anupama Chopra @anupamachopra 7h7 hours ago
#AarfaWonHearts and @AnushkaSharma can explain why. She talks about #Sultan and her future on #FCFaceTime at 2 pm
Anupama Chopra @anupamachopra 4h4 hours ago
Be it a film with @diljitdosanjh or acting with @iamsrk, @AnushkaSharma always backs herself
Akshay Kumar has been on a film signing spree. While the recently released trailer of Rustom has been creating waves, the actor has announced yet another film that he will be a part of.
Akshay Kumar will feature yet again in the Hindi remake of a South blockbuster. The film in question is the A R Murugadoss directorial Katthi which starred Vijay which has been retitled as Ikka in Hindi and will be directed by Murugadoss’ associate Jagan. Focusing on the current situation of the farmer suicides, the film will have Akshay in a double role, one of a thug and the other of a post graduate in Hydrology. Earlier, Akshay Kumar has featured in remakes like Rowdy Rathore and Holiday, which are remakes of Telugu film Vikramarkudu and Tamil film Thuppaki respectively. Interestingly, this is also the second time Akshay Kumar will be replacing Vijay in a film (Thuppaki starred Vijay in the lead role).
Confirming about the same, Akshay revealed that he will start shooting for the remake of the South film after wrapping up the schedule of other films like Rustom, Robot 2.0 and Namastey England.
SHILPA SHETTY KUNDRAVerified account @TheShilpaShetty 9h9 hours ago -Watched #Sultan last night here in London,lovvved it. Tk a bow 👍@BeingSalmanKhan @AnushkaSharma @aliabbaszafar, rake in the Crores😁
VISHAL DADLANIVerified account @VishalDadlani 5h5 hours ago
.@me_sreehitha Glad you like it! The way @aliabbaszafar shot it & @BeingSalmanKhan has performed it, it’s gone to the next level! #Sultan
Sultan OfficialVerified account @SultanTheMovie Jul 10
#Sultan wrestling tournament took over @cineworld, Bradford where 1 winner took away the YRF Sultan of UK trophy!
Ormax Media @OrmaxMedia 4h4 hours ago
For the first time in over 300 weeks, a film takes each of the top 4 spots on the #OrmaxHeartbeats charts! #Sultan
#SULTANFastest400CrWW Yet another RECORD! #Sultan is indeed a Masterpiece. Must Watch in Theatres 💪🏻❤️
On Wednesday, Sultan collected Rs. 10.8 crore* more at the Box Office and its overall collections so far stand at Rs. 219.62 crore*. While these are superb numbers by all means if one considers the strike rate that the film has maintained during last 8 days (~Rs. 27.5 crore per day), the numbers have seen a relative decline w.r.t. what one expected after a stupendous weekend. The trend had indicated that an average of Rs. 15 crore would be maintained on each of the weekdays as well. However, since that hasn’t really happened, one doesn’t see the film earning an extraordinary total which once seemed possible.
This means that all the talks of the Salman Khan starrer actually aiming for that elusive Rs. 400 crore mark have vanished. However, the film still has a chance for the Rs. 300 crore total. Salman Khan already has one to his name in Bajrangi Bhaijaan [Rs. 321 crore] while Anushka Sharma sits on the top with P.K. [Rs. 340.8 crore]. Incidentally, these are also the two highest scoring films of all time and the respective lead protagonists have come together in Sultan to bring it the third position at the least.
While this Yash Raj film is set to be their biggest ever, hence surpassing Dhoom 3 [Rs. 284 crore], the first major milestone for Sultan would be to cross the Rs. 300 crore mark. It is possible since the film’s competition during next couple of weeks is Great Grand Masti [July 15] and Madaari [July 22]. Post that there is Dishoom [July 29] but if Ali Abbas Zafar has to enter the Rs. 300 Crore Club, it would anyways happen by then.
Stay tuned as next few days are going be quite exciting for the industry to truly gauge that when huge records are scored on the first day, first weekend and first week, how much steam is actually left for a film for an all time high score as well.
Using producer totals, his website thinks Friday could be 5-6cr & lifetime is vying more with D3 than BB/PK, I think it should get close to 300cr plus or minus 10cr.
Aamir’s totals have become the Moby Dick-like white whales that everyone likes to hunt down though they never can. Remember how long the 3I 200 crore thing went on? Eventually of course the initial becomes big enough to do this but that hardly proves anything. And I must say I enjoy people squirming over this. Not because I have a problem with Sultan or any other film breaking PK’s record but that these debates are just not honest in most cases.
I’ll also say this again, whether one likes Sultan or not I just don’t think it’s a reasonable opinion to prefer it to Bajrangi. It could have been the kind of film that made such a comparison possible. But for what it is it’s just poor stuff for the most part. On paper it had more elements to enable it to become a really massive grosser, one that could keep up the pace of the initial, much more than Bajrangi which didn’t have all the Salman masala in the true sense and eventually became much more of a family film. Not that there’s anything wrong with this but the core Salman fan base probably wants more excitement than that.
The release date of highly anticipated action-comedy Golmaal Again has been announced. The fourth installment of the Golmaal series will be releasing in Diwali 2017. This is the 7th collaboration between director Rohit Shetty and actor Ajay Devgn, the two has previously worked together on films like Zameen, Golmaal, Golmaal Returns, Singham, Golmaal 3 and Singham Returns.
Golmaal 4 will have Tusshar Kapoor, Kunal Kemmu, Arshad Warsi and Shreyas Talpade reprising their roles. The film might star a new actress opposite Ajay Devgn, since Kareena Kapoor Khan is due to deliver her first child in December and the shoot of the film is scheduled to start in October.
Because of Golmaal Again, Ajay has decided to put the sequel of Son of Sardaar on the back burner. Initially he had decided to book the Diwali slot for the sequel of Son of Sardaar, but now Golmaal 4 will be officially releasing on Diwali 2017.
Ajay Will start the shooting of the film after the release of his ambitious project Shivaay, which is set to hit the screens on 28th October this year.
Sultan had another huge day as it put ap around 11 crore nett on its eight day. The drops are 15% on the weekdays which is little higher than normal as its an extended week and it is coming off a huge holiday period. Despite normal tiket rates rates the Wednesday figures are similar to Airlift day one (weekend ticket rates) which was the biggest hit of 2016 before Sultan. It shows how big Sultan is compared to what has come before this year. The collections of Sultan till date are as follows.
SATYAMSHOT 
July 5, 2016 at 1:45 PM
http://www.boxofficeindia.com/art_detail.php?articalid=2123#.V3v0l6DhXqA
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July 5, 2016 at 2:06 PM
There already seem to be too many ‘excuses’ in some of these reports so far! What they count as a perfect release is when no other film releases on the planet on that weekend and it’s an international holiday..
If it was an end of the world event they’d say ‘the film couldn’t do 40 (or whatever) on opening day because too many people were trying to get off the planet and also some of the potential audience died in the morning therefore affecting the evening shows’, ‘Salman is still the top opener for all films released on the day the world ends’.
Meanwhile Dhoni has pointed out a global conspiracy to destroy Salman. Getting a dozen or whatever huge grossers is fine but more than this is beyond the pale. ‘They’ will now take care of him. Enough’s enough. This is why he doesn’t cross PK. Last week God signed onto the conspiracy. Said he’d bring more bad weather to key Indian cities and keep audiences away.
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July 5, 2016 at 11:27 PM
lol this is THE comment.
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July 6, 2016 at 9:02 AM
Sir, these are pretty flat jokes……..and even if one were to disregard your obvious partisanship, one at least conceded to your decent sense humor in your commenting.
It seems you have missed few of my comments lately on Salman. I would suggest a revisit and then talk about conspiracies…. Though not relevant here haven’t you heard a saying – “The only time I commit to conspiracy theories is when something way retarded happens. Like Lee Harvey Oswald acting alone.”
On Salman why can’t you appreciate an evolving position? …..aren’t evolving candidate, evolving campaign, evolving thoughts, evolving tastes the current buzz words these days !
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July 6, 2016 at 9:08 AM
I must confess I am not as neutral as you in matters related to Salman..
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July 6, 2016 at 9:18 AM
Haha…now that’s a nice one and good to see you got your mojo back quick.
Now brace yourself for behemothic ‘Sultan of Swing’ box-office figures !
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July 6, 2016 at 9:26 AM
I’ve been seeing his huge numbers for years now.. that’s not in doubt for me.. I just want to see whether he can get the absolute biggest grosser this time. But then I always think that. every film is spun as such or as being on the way to such. But it never seems to happen. Unlike many people I am not in a war with the facts. So if he gets it great for him. What I do like to point out is these silly narratives where he’s the greatest superstar on the planet but because of a roadblock in somewhere in Bombay he missed out on the record. I’d like to say this is a caricature but it isn’t. Or I guess it’s a more intelligent caricature than the kind unwittingly provided by the likes of BOI or some of his fans.
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July 6, 2016 at 10:07 AM
Those absolute blockbusters and numbers of the bygone era are a thing of the past. Audience minds and tastes and the way we live and behave and to be frank the world in general is too complicated for a universal recognition. There are simply too many prejudices for that to happen.
In fact to me PK with its absolute numbers itself never reached its true box-office potential……and then so much has happened in life of Aamir since then that he may be in for a rude shock if ‘Dangal mein Mangal’ sticks a little longer….
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July 6, 2016 at 11:39 AM
I’m not comparing it to blockbusters of the past but PK shouldn’t have been such a hard task, specially if as you say it didn’t live up to its potential. Actually no Salman film has matched Ghajini’s trending let alone 3I’s. So I’m not really using past standards.
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July 5, 2016 at 1:53 PM
http://indianexpress.com/article/entertainment/bollywood/how-big-will-sultan-be-trade-experts-play-guessing-game-2893473/
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July 5, 2016 at 2:09 PM
This seems a bit startling considering this is a working day release…. ‘pre-release sales record’ is new one !
Sultan Creates History In Advance Sales
Tuesday 05 July 2017 22.30 IST
Sultan has created history in advance sales by taking in sales worth 22-23 crore nett apprx. Prem Ratan Dhan Payo had set records last year with around 15 crore nett in pre release sales. This is the highest amount ever collected pre release and the highest number in ticket solds pre release. Obviously in terms of percentage of tickets sold against the total it is not simply because of the huge number of tickets available..
The figure is a huge 50% above Prem Ratan Dhan Payo though some of this will be because there are more holidays in the weekend for Sultan then there were for Prem Ratan Dhan Payo and its five day period against for a four day period. But on the other side Prem Ratran Dhan Payo had a longer period for the advance due to it releasing one day later than Sultan.
The advance of Sultan is higher than Prem Ratan Dhan Payo in totality and also for the first day which probably means the opening day record of 39.16 crore nett is going to fall and the question by tomorrow evening should be by how much. The bonus will be the benchmark of 40 crore nett is toppled.
http://www.boxofficeindia.com/art_detail.php?articalid=2124#.V3v4PdQrL4Y
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July 5, 2016 at 2:14 PM
When records are broken it’s great. Otherwise it’s a conspiracy. One might want to decide which it is.
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July 5, 2016 at 2:18 PM
apex (@apex2edge)
05/07/2016, 19:14
#sultan @TeamSalmanfc #bhaitard #eid no excuses <100cr domestic in 72 hours <315cr lifetime net =underperformance Behemoth Cometh time2fire
https://twitter.com/apex2edge/status/750392544853393409
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July 5, 2016 at 3:04 PM
hey why have you been missing from the Mohenjo Daro threads?
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July 9, 2016 at 7:11 AM
See my reply in that thread!
As for #sultan my prophesy coming true
100+ in 72 hours
Let’s see 315 + lifetime
Satyam learn to accept facts
True stardom is not the KEEP of
Delayed prolonged release intervals
Nor conditional to xtra special film
Nor to releasing only in xmas after many years wait & such bs
Stardom is the force in itself
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July 9, 2016 at 8:52 AM
still wondering why you’re absent from all the Mohenjo Daro threads following the trailer..
also with all the ‘delays’ and ‘release intervals’ and everything you’re referring to I wonder if you’re describing Hrithik’s career..
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July 5, 2016 at 9:47 PM
Day 1 will be around 38 crs…The non holiday Hindi record of D3 is around 33 cr and 36 cr including all languages. This will fall even though it is pre-iD.
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July 5, 2016 at 9:53 PM
Thought its a partial holiday not sure pre eid would have any effect as its a last day of Ramadan .. evening and night shows should be really strong .
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July 6, 2016 at 12:15 AM
http://www.ibtimes.co.in/sultan-movie-review-by-audience-live-update-685620
Seems first half is good and second half is so so.
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July 6, 2016 at 12:18 AM
Supreme Court delivers a rude shock to Salman Khan just before ‘Sultan’ release
http://www.ibtimes.co.in/supreme-court-delivers-rude-shock-salman-khan-just-before-sultan-release-685553
What is so rude about it? It is only admitting the plea, not judgment against him.
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July 6, 2016 at 12:24 AM
Adds trade analyst Atul Mohan. “The Sultan producers Yash Raj Films are targeting at widest release for Sultan. Not only in India but overseas also. Audience is hungry for a massy film, which hasn’t come from long time. As we can see from the advance booking that opened on Sunday the ticket prices have been hiked and shows are getting full within few hours. With the long weekend ahead, the film should easily cross more than half of Salman’s previous best collections within five days. No major release for three weeks after its release will make sure it enters the prestigious club of Rs. 300 crores. The content of Bajrangi Bhaijaan ensured that it got good run at the box-office and if Sultan’s content is lapped up by the audience, then new records will be created.”
http://www.bollywoodhungama.com/movies/features/type/view/id/10869
The ticket prices are hiked.
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July 6, 2016 at 12:31 AM
He has hit and run case still running. And his not apologizing for his rape remark. Yet he remains Brand Ambassador for Rio Olympics! Incredible India!
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July 6, 2016 at 1:32 AM
Priyanka Chopra: India Is A Difficult Country.
http://www.koimoi.com/bollywood-news/india-is-a-difficult-country-priyanka-chopra/
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July 6, 2016 at 1:54 AM
Sultan has taken a bumper opening af around 70% on average and this looked on the cards due to the mega advance. The opening is fantastic all over with North, Rajasthan and CI leading. The collections at most places are historic while in UP they are just out of this world with many places in the state going over capacity.
The key is that traditionally weak pockets for Salman Khan like West Bengal and Mysore have opened to a huge response and even these circuits could set records on day one. Tamil Nadu / Kerala could have better but a small circuit like this hardly makes a difference.
It will be surprising if the film does not take the highest opening day ever and crosses the 40 crore nett mark for the first time. The way the film is opened even a crazy 45 crore nett total or higher cannot be written off but will depend how the day plays out and with so many screenings there are always odd show timings in the afternoon and late afternoon which record lower occupancy.
Sultan has given a breather to the industry which has not really seen a film in a long time interest the audience to bring them in initially. It shows the audience is still there but as long as the film looks a proper Hindi film in the commercial format and not poor copies of films from US, Europe and the Far East or films with story telling styles which are alien to majority of the Indian audience.
Boxofficeindia.com
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July 6, 2016 at 2:46 AM
The early reviews are very good. Looks like it will have appeal to the small cities as well as the metroes due to the wrestling flavour. This might be a monster from early indications. I said Day 1 will be 38 but might well be higher. Infact it has a chance to break the holiday opening of HNY (producer numbers) – around 42 (44.97 inclusive all languages) on a non holiday…
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July 6, 2016 at 2:57 AM
Today is a bank holiday and also share market is closed. So how come government has postponed holiday to tomorrow?
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July 6, 2016 at 3:03 AM
http://www.firstpost.com/bollywood/sultan-leaked-online-yrf-denies-development-cyber-crime-sleuths-say-its-on-dark-net-2876328.html
Somebody leaked the entire story in a comment.
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July 6, 2016 at 4:35 AM
A quick positive review
http://www.hindustantimes.com/bollywood/sultan-quick-take-salman-khan-weaves-his-charm-again/story-UL3J798Skf2cMt1rvp4JnI.html
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July 6, 2016 at 4:49 AM
http://www.hindustantimes.com/movie-reviews/sultan-review-salman-s-eid-offering-has-all-the-sparkles/story-uG4Wpuj2522jgLtXihuVoN.html
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July 6, 2016 at 5:03 AM
http://movies.ndtv.com/movie-reviews/sultan-movie-review-1284?pfrom=home-lateststories
But Sultan is a Salman Khan film made solely for the superstar’s fans. It has everything to please its target audience. It has megahit written all over it.
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July 6, 2016 at 5:09 AM
http://www.news18.com/news/movies/sultan-tweet-review-first-day-first-show-1266289.html
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July 6, 2016 at 8:40 AM
is this salmans best ever,he is edging towards amitabhs status
the next ” king khan ” I think he already is and now this blockbuster he must be “tagged” superstar,
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July 7, 2016 at 8:56 PM
Superstardom is something which can only be experienced … until unless you have not lived through the madness of tsunami, you can mistaken even small storm as equal or bigger than that tsunami which you never experienced . Before Salman, kids of this generation were cheering for whatever little craze SRK was able to generate in middle of 2000 and comparing him to Amitabh without even knowing what Amitabh was in those 2 decades. After Salman overtaking SRK and now in his peak, even SRK fans got sense that there could be bigger craze than what they earlier thought. And now it is turn of Salman fans who are at mistake thinking if this is biggest ever stardom .. until unless someone bigger comes and show them that superstardom is something else, you are at mistake .. wakeup.
During bachchan time, throughout year, every single day (release or no release) .. in every single city, at least one theater was playing Amitabh movie and drawing all houseful boards …. My 2 cents.
Saying all this, I am enjoying stardom of Salman and feeling proud that even my American friends became his fan, after showing them few of Bollywood stuffs. And now after exploring quite a good number of Bollywood stuff, these Americans friends are surprised seeing good quality entertainer from Bollywood. Some of masala stuff which we generally laughing at are received very positively and enjoyed by them, and I knew this coming. We are hypocrites trashing our own products and endorsing even poor quality Hollywood stuff, just to make a fashion statement.
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July 6, 2016 at 9:08 AM
True that !
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July 6, 2016 at 10:50 AM
First let him try even 1/1000th of a Hrishikesh Mukherjee type-film by petering down his one-note stardom and then we can talk…
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July 6, 2016 at 11:47 AM
One doesn’t even have to go that far An Jo. this whole ‘he’s like Bachchan’ comparison that we’ve been hearing about for.. I don’t know.. 3 decades now is rather stale. Remember the SRK folks?! Now it’s certainly fair to say that Salman with his massive initials is closest to that sort of mass model that doesn’t quite exist in Bombay anymore but still does in the South. And as I’ve argued before SRK never ever had this sort of run, nothing even close to it (i.e. as a pure box office matter). Unfortunately it’s dangerous making perfectly reasonable factual claims online because you have the crazies on all sides coming out, people who were either born yesterday or act like they were born yesterday and make all sorts of wild claims that illustrates little more than their utter ignorance of these matters. But with someone like Aamir you have a model in the present. It’s a different thing that he chooses not to do Ghajini 1, 2, 3 or whatever. But the fact that he has this film and those two Hiranis and of course D3 illustrates simply this — huge as Salman is and extraordinary as his run has been he has still not been able to match a) the highest benchmarks of his age (beyond the initial) and b) even the initial is not unique as any number of films prove. I don’t have a huge problem with anyone who wants to call Salman the top star today (even if I would debate this and I myself would put Aamir up there at the very least or even over him for certain reasons) but the craziness derails any reasonable discussion. Then again I better not tempt some of the Akshay fans here who claim he’s not Salman out of choice! Hey why not?! Since the craziness is ok everyone is welcome to theirs!
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July 6, 2016 at 10:10 AM
Anupama Chopra @anupamachopra 6h6 hours ago
So the husband says that my body language changes when I enjoy a film & generally everything becomes sunnier at the Chopra abode!! #Sultan
Anupama Chopra @anupamachopra 4h4 hours ago
When #Sultan ended, I had moist eyes and a big grin. My review : #FilmCompanion
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July 6, 2016 at 11:50 AM
Anupama Chopra liking it might be a better sign than most others in terms of its multiplex trending patterns.. still will have to see it get to the (underperforming!) PK number to believe it.
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July 6, 2016 at 11:41 PM
The feedback what I got is very strong too…A biggie on the cards. How big we will know on Monday
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July 6, 2016 at 12:42 PM
not impress at all,
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July 6, 2016 at 2:53 PM
Sultan is flirting with an all time record on day one. The picture looked pretty clear in the morning with a record looking almost certain on the advance and morning collections. It was looking ro race past the 39 crore nett plus of Prem Ratan Dhan Payo but though it is a national holiday, Eid is eventually going to be tomorrow which has meant a Pre – Eid trend for the film in Muslim centres.
These centres started bumper as the Salman Khan fans came first day first show but the 3pm and 6pm shows were lower being the final day of Ramazan. If it was not for this the film would have set crazy records but this will bring it down more towards the 40 crore nett range. Its going to be a very tight call with the first day of Prem Ratan Dhan Payo, it could beat but also short a little due to the muslin centres in Gujarat, Nizam, CP Berar, UP etc.
An all time record would be just extraordinary but even if it falls it a little short it will phenomenal considering pre Eid. East Punjab which is not really affected by Pre Eid is an all time record by 10-15%, West Bengal also looks a record while other circuits are a close call and it will come down to what figure comes in Mumbai as Prem Ratan Dhan Payo was an extraordinary 14.75 crore nett and that is not easy to beat.
Boxofficeindia.com
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July 6, 2016 at 2:56 PM
Communal comment!
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July 6, 2016 at 2:59 PM
Sultan is the tenth bumper opening this decade after Dabangg, Bodyguard, Agneepath, Ek Tha Tiger, Chennai Express, Dhoom 3, Singham Returns, Happy New Year and Prem Ratan Dhan Payo. It means that less than two films a year manage to achieve the feat and the audience is only coming in hordes when its a national holiday. Only Dhoom 3 out of the above is outside a national holiday and that is an eviable achievement.
These sort of initials were witnessed much more prior to this decade as the holiday film watching culture was less prevalent due to a lower ratio of business coming from multiplexes.
The above list consists of five Salman Khan starrers highlighting his initial draw and dominating of the box office this decade. There are two films for Shahrukh Khan and one each for Aamir Khan, Ajay Devgn and Hrithik Roshan. No other star has managed to get a 20 crore nett plus opening even though we are now talking about 40 nett plus figures which may come with Sultan
Boxoficeindia.com
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July 6, 2016 at 4:46 PM
Going tonight to watch Sultan.
Happy Eid everyone at SS.
For Madhubala fans-
मत गुज़ारना रमजान के वक़्त किसी मस्जिद के पास से
लोग तुम्हे चाँद समझ कर कहीं रोज़ा ना तोड़ देन
( Mat guzarna Ramzan key waqt kisi Masjid key paas sey, log tumhe channd samajh kar kahin Roza naa tod den !!)
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July 6, 2016 at 10:03 PM
The numbers pouring in are phenomenal. BOI is comparing it with PRDP but rest of trade will compare it with HNYs 44.97 official numbers as BOI had it at a lower number. The movie will be 40 cr at end of day 1 which is huge considering it was not a holiday and pre-I’d. This is better than the 33 cr D3 number on a like to like comparison even if you subtract the part holiday effect of 10perent. Day 2 is holiday for most parts and it has a good chance of challenging the 44.97 official numbers of HNY
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July 7, 2016 at 1:01 AM
You are not taking ticket rates into the account surely tickets of Sultan doesn’t cost u same as Dhoom 3 which was released nearly 3 years ago not to mention this is a relatively bigger release too but yeah i would put this on par with Dhoom 3 .
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July 7, 2016 at 1:12 AM
That’s a fair point. But then D3 was a franchise and is the biggest brand of sequel releasing at the time of Christmas holidays. People underestimate the effect of Pre-ID. Many circuits like UP, Nizam etc don’t perform to optimum during this time. This negates the effect of part holiday in some parts of the state.
Wait for Thursday. Sultan will soar to its actual potential in these circuits as WOM is quite positive.
Day 1 will be around 38 – 40 crs. Day 2 can be above 45 crs. (If there is a drop in Day 2 we know this wont fly much)
Monday will tell us how big this will be.
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July 7, 2016 at 1:17 AM
One more point, the movie is doing sensationally well in Multiplexes. And it is the single screens in some circuits which are lagging behind. So there is still potential to grow today in single screens…and that will happen from today in the circuits of UP and CP. These two circuits specially is all about single screens and are also affected by Pre-ID
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July 7, 2016 at 1:24 AM
I think multiplexes did remarkably well yesterday and acutally helped the film to put up such a huge number .. while i think plexes may see a little drop today even though its Eid .. at the same time i expect single screens to grow .. offcourse i could be totally wrong and it might end up doing 50 cr today not sure about the WOM yet but lets see how it goes .
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July 7, 2016 at 1:34 AM
Early indications of Day 2 is that multiplexes have started on a 95% note as against 75% yesterday….Will let know by 3pm.
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July 7, 2016 at 1:59 AM
Can’t see how it doesn’t get pass 300 crores now. It’s going to be well over 200 crores in its 9 day first week.
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July 7, 2016 at 2:10 AM
To be honest, if Day 2 is 10-15% higher than Day 1, we might be looking at 400 crores rather than 300….
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July 7, 2016 at 1:06 AM
https://businessofcinema.com/bollywood_news/evening-sultan-rs-900-will-hiked-prices-affect-sultans-fare-box-office/328956
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July 7, 2016 at 1:57 AM
It’s the widest release ever at around 4350 screens with more than half of India having a full holiday on 6th July. Apart from the fact that Dhoom 3 released almost 3 years ago, nobody talks about Kick opening which was in 26-27 Crores range on a normal day. One ought to factor in the holiday impact and years after which record is broken besides print count, yet these rudimentary things are put aside to present the rosy picture as if these opening day records are never seen before kind of deals! Dhoom 3, PK and even Talaash opened as big as any other movie would have opened on a normal day including any Salman movie, yet trade would present an entirely different picture in reporting the figures using adjectives as if only Salman’s movies open as big! Salman is certainly one of the biggest stars, but with certain limitations as Jai Ho and PRDP showed us where he faltered in opening and final gross!
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July 7, 2016 at 5:04 AM
Dabang was also a big brand yet Dabang 2 dispite getting a Christmas release did not break any opening record which is testimony to genre, word of mouth, director and cast combination being the vital factors behind setting the new opening records. So on a normal day, Salman, Aamir and Shahrukh starrer would open more or less the same.
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July 6, 2016 at 10:14 PM
Komal Nahta @KomalNahta 8h8 hours ago
My estimate of #Sultan day 1: Rs. 43 crore!
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taran adarsh @taran_adarsh 1h1 hour ago
#Sultan [Wed biz / pre-Eid]: ₹ 40 cr+ definitely… 41… 42… 43… It can touch these figures… Final numbers coming up… FANTABULOUS!
taran adarsh @taran_adarsh 1h1 hour ago
The Eid festivities commence from today in India… A HISTORIC 5-day opening weekend is on the cards… #Sultan = HURRICANE at the BO.
Girish Johar @girishjohar 21h21 hours ago
EXCLUSIVE !!! Very early trends for early shows… MAHA BUMPER START to #Sultan @BeingSalmanKhan @AnushkaSharma 😎👏😆🔥
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July 6, 2016 at 11:38 PM
Loved the movie… it will be very big hit if they can delete couple of songs .
Salman owns the movie, and Anoushka has a pretty significant role too.
Aside-Salman Khan says Bharat Mata kee Jai @ Olympics and delivers a strong message !! maza aa gaya !!
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July 6, 2016 at 11:41 PM
Salman reminded me of Dharmendra a lot in this movie !
Salman’s friend also acted very well and had a decent role.
The casting director should get an A +….
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July 7, 2016 at 2:28 AM
It was okay one time watch for me…Bajrangi was far better in terms of emotional connect…Salman is good but he looked old chasing kites…I liked first MMA fight, don’t teach father joke and some other jokes…The main conflict was childish IMO…But movie rode on Salman and many people will overlook the obvious problems. Both fathers were good. Hooda was miscast.
ps – was it me …they used game of thrones tune in slightly different way in background?
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July 7, 2016 at 7:31 AM
I liked Hooda- specially when he asks -yeh Haryana ka jaat hai na ?( the joke -he himself being a Haryanvi jaat in real life)
Anoushka was smoking hot !!
The joke doing the rounds is that since Virat never performed well when she was around, she saw all the big fights of Sallu on TV..lol
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July 7, 2016 at 7:59 AM
Glad you liked it Rocky !
Wom on this one is really positive and have not heard even one negative comment within my circle of friends who have watched it and this one is gearing for a long haul.
Unfortunately trade pundits have become too predictable while quoting towering figures……and then coming with modifications later…….Actually the way Eid day has played out in the domestic market is another yo-yo kind of a deal. In my opinion Sunday is where the movie its going to settle down in a big way.
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July 7, 2016 at 12:23 PM
The only problem is that it may not have the repeat audience like Bajrangi Bhaijan.
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July 7, 2016 at 11:39 AM
Haha..I thought her performance was patchy..She was good when she was silent and speaking with eyes…
Also she was switching to Hindi in emotional dialogues…
I am not harsh like her but my views are somewhat in this review:
http://www.thehindu.com/features/cinema/cinema-reviews/sultan-movie-review/article8816105.ece
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July 7, 2016 at 12:28 PM
Wow Namrata noticed the same thing I did about Hooda !!
Aside-she is a libtard and can never accept liking this kind of a movie.I bet these sickulars must have had a huge problem in Salman saying Bharat Mata kee jai and doing Namstey in the movie !! LOL!!
Aside 2- (from whatsapp)-
Agar aisey hee chalta raha toh the coming generation will assume that the reason Eid is celebrated is because it’s the day of Sallu Bhai’s film release !!!
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July 7, 2016 at 1:10 AM
The film has fallen short of the All Time Record of Prem Ratan Dhan Payo of 39 crore nett but if we take out the Ramazan factor on fair value the number is much higher and that will mean better hold on the second day as that the Muslim audience comes out today. Basically it was a holiday yesterday but the film has not got the full benefit of the holiday due to Ramazan and that will show up in the next few days as collections hold better than other films coming off a big holiday.
The film has smashed records at multiplexes with most multiplexes recording the highest daily figures they have ever seen for any film but the circuit records are very few as the single screen business is well short of films like Prem Ratan Dhan Payo , Happy New Year and Dhoom 3. The single screen business has kept the figures of Sultan lower than likes of Prem Ratan Dhan Payo in most circuits.
http://boxofficeindia.com/art_detail.php?articalid=2134#.V33j15N97BI
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July 7, 2016 at 1:42 AM
First Look of Kaatru Veliyadai. Mani Ratnams next
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July 7, 2016 at 3:44 AM
Sultan has dropped today in multiplexes all over. SS are running bumper. Evenings shows will give a clear picture
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July 7, 2016 at 3:49 AM
That’s a quick turnaround
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July 7, 2016 at 3:52 AM
Yeah opposite to Day 1 is happening…
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July 7, 2016 at 5:33 AM
the people are enjoying the film,how could this drop….yes srk film fan did drop but this is theeee sultan,nothing like that will happen..
” sultan audience verdict: Salman Khan inspires, film is a blockbuster ”
http://indianexpress.com/article/entertainment/bollywood/sultan-audience-verdict-salman-khan-anushka-sharma-inspires-film-is-a-blockbuster-eid-2896881/
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July 7, 2016 at 5:06 AM
taran adarshVerified account
@taran_adarsh
#Sultan proves its SUPREMACY at the BO… Does MIND-BOGGLING biz on Wed [pre-Eid]… Wed ₹ 36.54 cr. India biz.
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July 7, 2016 at 5:21 AM
Lol what a joke all these box office sites are becoming!!! Yes its pre – eid BUT the producer has given a similar total to D3 (3 years ago on a non holiday on lower prints, ticket prices)!
And if yesterday was pre-eid – today is the big day!
Maybe Aamir wrote it into the D3 contract that no film crushes its opening day record – no film from YRF.
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July 7, 2016 at 5:31 AM
What happened to 40….41…42…43!!!! tweet.
These guys are mugs!!!
“taran adarsh @taran_adarsh 1h1 hour ago
#Sultan [Wed biz / pre-Eid]: ₹ 40 cr+ definitely… 41… 42… 43… It can touch these figures… Final numbers coming up… FANTABULOUS!”
And now just hours later
@taran_adarsh
#Sultan proves its SUPREMACY at the BO… Does MIND-BOGGLING biz on Wed [pre-Eid]… Wed ₹ 36.54 cr. India biz.
Clown! Amateur!
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July 7, 2016 at 5:35 AM
BOI started with 45 cr possibility yesterday morning and now we have come down to 36 ….
taran_adarsh @ DM FAV RT ? 12:33
RTretweeted by aamirmerijaan
So here’s the Friday total of #Dhoom3 … India ₹ 36.22 cr + Overseas ₹ 20.20 cr. Worldwide *Friday* total: ₹ 56.42 cr. MONSTROUS START!
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July 7, 2016 at 5:39 AM
D3 was all languages put together. Hindi was around 33…
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July 7, 2016 at 5:54 AM
I’m sure Sultan will come onto its own on the weekend.
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July 7, 2016 at 5:56 AM
The trend today is not great atleast in plexes. Its not a fall but its lesser than yesterday by 20%. So not sure how well it will do from here. But feedback is quite positive but its not reflecting in todays trend
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July 7, 2016 at 5:17 AM
Think Dhoom 3 did around 36.50 on its opening day !!
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July 7, 2016 at 5:21 AM
ATBB – Hats off to the No 1 Star in Hindi Films by a distance … Salman Khan!!
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July 7, 2016 at 5:37 AM
Those getting Sadist pleasure (predictible ones like Jayshah etc) that Sultan couldn’t cross 40+ etc, i have one message:
HA HA HA HA
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July 7, 2016 at 5:40 AM
It is not pleasure at crossing X Y Z figure. It is the reporting that makes me laugh.
And I’ll laugh more when Sultan knocks out any Akshay starrer inside 5 days – that will be a HA HA HA HA moment
Sadist is laughing at the collection of a film on first day and calling it a flop when it goes onto be the biggest grosser of all time!!!
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July 7, 2016 at 7:39 AM
To e honest, I got sadistic pleasure. Not because of Salman but because of the trade making it to be biggest record breaker on the first day itself.
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July 7, 2016 at 7:40 AM
BOI/Indicine/Addatoday/Taran/KOI all been made fools off
http://www.boxofficeindia.com/art_detail.php?articalid=2135#.V34_2PkrKkk
36.59 BOI number after scrabbling round to knock off a couple of crores
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July 7, 2016 at 5:47 AM
this film is not going to slow down,almost positive reviews everywhere…here in manchester trafford centre its all buzzing and look at the shows viewing…
ODEON Trafford Centre – Map
11:20 12:20 13:20 14:20 15:10 16:10 17:10 18:10 19:00 20:00 21:00 22:00 22:50
Initial reports say that theatres are going house-full on Thursday and excellent reviews are just adding to Sultan’s buzz.
According to trade analyst Taran Adarsh, the film has proved its supremacy at the box office with the “mind-boggling” business on day one. Adarsh has predicted a “historic” five-day weekend for the film.
http://indianexpress.com/article/entertainment/bollywood/opening-box-office-collections-of-salman-khan-anushka-sharma-starrer-sultan-to-get-affected-as-eid-now-on-july-7-2896519/
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July 7, 2016 at 7:36 AM
Aamir Khan, as we know only too well, has a soft centre and is easily moved to tears. He watched colleague Salman Khan’s new film Sultan on Wednesday and blubbed through it, just as he did last year after watching Salman’s Bajrangi Bhaijaan and nephew Imran Khan’s Katti Batti.
Just days ago, Aamir criticised Salman’s controversial remark about feeling ‘like a raped woman,’ calling it “rather unfortunate and rather insensitive.” On Thursday, however, the 51-year-old actor had only praise for Salman’s film, which co-stars Anushka Sharma.
Salman plays a wrestler in Sultan, just as Aamir plays real life wrestler Mahavir Phogat in December’s Dangal.
“It’s difficult to compare Bajrangi Bhaijaan and Sultan. Both are very good movies. I don’t compare. But Sultan is outstanding, moving, cried in second half. It is a very inspiring film,” Aamir told reporters on Thursday in Mumbai.
Aamir, who appeared with Salman in 1994’s Andaz Apna Apna, sent him a text after watching Sultan at Yash Raj Studios on Wednesday night.
“I messaged him at night, congratulating him. It deserves success. Sultan will break all records, I am sure,” added Aamir.
Aamir was also fulsome with praise for Salman on Twitter:
http://movies.ndtv.com/bollywood/aamirs-review-of-salmans-film-sultan-is-outstanding-made-me-cry-1428949?pfrom=home-topstories
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July 7, 2016 at 7:50 AM
#NationalHelicopterDay: Awesome Tweets on M S Dhoni’s Birthday
Virender Sehwag ✔ @virendersehwag
Happy Birthday @msdhoni .
May you keep doing Anhoni ko Honi.#NationalHelicopterDay
Sushant S Rajput ✔ @itsSSR
HappyBirthday Captain.A totally Selfless cricketer &a wonderfully amazing person..Respect. #HappyBirthdayCaptainCool
Amitabh Bachchan @SrBachchan 14h14 hours ago
T 2309 – Happy birthday MS ..
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July 7, 2016 at 10:48 AM
The real Sultan…exemplary leader, on and off the field!
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July 7, 2016 at 8:09 AM
Bollywood HungamaVerified account @Bollyhungama 3h3 hours ago
“#Sultan is VERY MOVING, VERY INSPIRING; I cried a lot in second half,” says @aamir_khan
Bollywood HungamaVerified account @Bollyhungama 3h3 hours ago
“For me @BeingSalmanKhan’s #Sultan is OUTSTANDING,” says @aamir_khan
mukesh chhabra CSA @CastingChhabra 6h6 hours ago
After Bajrangi, yet another sensible and sensitive film of @BeingSalmanKhan. Thoroughly enjoyed @aliabbaszafar’s #Sultan
…and this one for you Rocky……….may inspire Madhubala fans again to come with those amazing lines on chand / roza / masjid……
Anushka Sharma @AnushkaSharma 7h7 hours ago
What a way to celebrate Eid! Can’t be better. Thank you for all the love for #Aarfa 🙏🏻 #EidMubarak #Sultan
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July 7, 2016 at 8:14 AM
Don’t wish to spam here, but here it is straight from the horse’s mouth……
Faridoon Shahryar @iFaridoon 4h4 hours ago
.@aamir_khan told media today that if any film can break #PK’s box office record then it has to be #Sultan …
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July 7, 2016 at 8:35 AM
Realistically this is Salman’s third bite at the cherry. Eventually it has to happen. If the 9 day total is more than 200 cr it’s got chances. Maybe something like 210cr, 70cr, 35cr, 15cr + 15cr (rest) gets it there. But all things being equal with the positive WOM and not getting 40 cr yesterday or possibly today think it will be hard to pull it off. Today sounds like it will at best be the same as yesterday but the reports from BO sites are hardly trustworthy as has been proven today with them nearly as much as 10cr off the mark!!! Like we are being led to believe it will be 35cr today and out of nowhere it could be 45cr. Who the f knows. Only Monday can confirm its chances.
I suspect though Aamir is being quite generous to his buddy. And he’s the only one to know how much of mistake or opportunity Dangal is at this stage.
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July 7, 2016 at 8:45 AM
agreed completely on all counts..
I think based on the morning shows they made those extravagant claims. Clearly the film was weaker than expected in the evening shows. Now dropping 20% on a Sat is not unusual for many films but if you’re looking to be biggest absolute grosser that might be a problem. It should stabilize overall but this is not about relative multiplex strength. It’s about going from strength to strength for days.
But on the larger point everyone loves making the oldest claims about the numbers and then either pretending that whether it’s 35 or 45 it’s equally record-breaking or saying ‘oh evening shows didn’t pan out’ or something. But since this happens with so many big films, and actually the vast majority of those that do become big grossers, what’s the reason for this amnesia every single time?!
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July 7, 2016 at 9:29 AM
Good uptick in evening shows all over but still looks like an overall 5 to 10 percent drop from yesterday. In the morning it was looking like a higher drop though
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July 7, 2016 at 9:55 AM
Reports are good, looks like it will pull through over 300. Beating PK is different as multiple repeat value looks little weak.
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July 7, 2016 at 8:46 AM
“Don’t wish to spam here..”
hey why stop now?!
just kidding…
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July 7, 2016 at 8:49 AM
A tweet from Aamir is very unconvincing. I mean this is the guy who starred in Lagaan & 4-6 record openers & 4 total WW record grossers. Why trust him now???
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July 7, 2016 at 8:50 AM
had that thought too!
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July 7, 2016 at 9:49 AM
3 Khan family picture: Arbaaz Khan(left), Salman Khan(middle), Sohail Khan(right).
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July 7, 2016 at 12:07 PM
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July 8, 2016 at 4:43 PM
This is really awesome munna, thanks!
A bit of a bittersweet moment to see Rahul Dravid with grey hair on the sides. Having said that, it probably adds another layer to his distinguished appearance. And of course, he’s always a joy to listen to!
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July 8, 2016 at 4:52 PM
He has been very clear in his thought process. I think it is just matter of time he will be Indian team coach.
If you call me fan (I don’t like that tag) of anybody in Indian Cricket, it is Rahul Dravid.
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July 8, 2016 at 5:16 PM
Yeah, he’s pretty much my all time favourite cricketer as well. His clarity of thought makes me think he could not only coach the Indian cricket team but also the Indian Hockey team, Football team, you name it 🙂
When the Azhar match-fixing case came to light,I like most other Indian cricket fans had given up on cricket for a while. Little did I know that we’d be blessed with exceptional heroes in the form of Dravid, Tendulkar, Laxman, Kumble and Sehwag in the years to come. There was more to follow, later, in the form of Dhoni as well.
Back to Dravid, he’s got a great sense of humour too. Watch this as he trolls Ganguly on air!
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July 8, 2016 at 5:34 PM
Now that I think about my reply, seems a bit harsh to leave out Ganguly from my list of favourite cricketers. I did admire his pluck ,from a distance, but I was never a true fan. Perhaps it was his ego, his inability to conform to the more modern demands of the game (fitness mainly; his inability to cope with short-pitched deliveries as well) that never persuaded me to be his fan. He truly acted like he was a ‘prince’ (or at least gave the impression that he was one)…that wasn’t very cool either.
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July 8, 2016 at 5:50 PM
Ditto. I don’t think I dislike Ganguly but some of the accolades are over stated. Mainly by people who have seen selective cricket.
I have seen him when he used to score 70s as opener using 100-120 balls when Tendulkar was the faster one. His inability to handle balls on leg side. His batting improved later in career. Even in captaincy, I think he brought fearlessness in approach but there was no strategy.
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July 7, 2016 at 1:50 PM
Since I’ve had some time to kill, thought about posting some random thoughts on the Box Office.
1) Assuming an average price of INR 100 per ticket, the maximum number of tickets sold for PK is around 3.4 crores. That’s less than 3% of the total Indian population! It makes intuitive sense that as the Indian economy expands, we’ll see much bigger opening day/final totals.
2) People give too much significance to the final figures of a film. It makes more sense to look at the opening day (as a measure of hype, stardom etc) and the final total;then divide the latter by the former. For example: PK has a FT (Final Total)/OD (Opening Day) ratio of 12.44; Fan has a ratio of 4; Bajirao Mastani has a ratio of 14.5; Dilwale has a ratio of roughly 7; PRDP stands at roughly 5, and so on. The obvious conclusion is that the higher the ratio, the better is its public reception! Not a ground-breaking conclusion by any means, but it makes comparisons much easier. One can easily see that compared to PK and Bajirao, the other films have fared much worse in terms of public perception.
3) Point #2 above has a caveat: one needs to properly contextualize the FT-OD ratios. These ratios will have different meanings for ‘small’ films vis-à-vis big films. By small I mean films which are intended for a niche audience. A Wednesday, for example, will have a ridiculously high FT-OD ratio (>100) compared to a film like PK or Bajrangi. It makes more sense to club films together which have similar final totals. Alternatively, one could look at films within a certain range: e.g. 0-50 Crores, 50-100 Crores, 100-150 Crores etc.
4) There are obviously more sophisticated methods to analyze Box Office Data, even if it’s incomplete and open to debate. One could look at Bell curves, probability distributions (there are many to choose from) and then form an informed opinion, but the above method is a quick and dirty way to look at a film’s overall reception…and start comparing films. Let the fun begin…
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July 7, 2016 at 2:05 PM
Regarding #3, one could categorize films based on genre, holiday/non-holiday releases as well. The point is, one should get a more realistic feel for box office numbers. Would save a lot of bandwidth on the internet and also on this blog as well!
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July 7, 2016 at 2:57 PM
Another point of contention is the PK vs Bajrangi debate. It’s somehow considered a failing on Salman’s part (see disclaimer below) that the latter fell short of the former. Unless one considers Raju Hirani at the same level as Kabir Khan, this isn’t a fair comparison.
Any sane person would agree that PK = Aamir + Hirani whereas Bajrangi = Salman. Kabir Khan released Phantom just after Bajrangi and the results were pretty ordinary.
Raju Hirani, on the other hand, gave one of the biggest hits of 2006 with a Box Office has-been, Sanjay Dutt. Moreover, LRM trended better than 3 Idiots and PK. Munnabhai MBBS trended even better than LRM.
Unless one considers all these points together, how can one do a fair comparison?
Obligatory disclaimer: I’m not a Salman fan; don’t watch his films and will not watch Sultan either. I don’t own a dog in these Box Office fights; in fact, I’m quite a big Aamir fan, but in the interest of fairness, let’s not side-line certain facts…
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July 7, 2016 at 3:23 PM
To make it simple.. whole industry accepts and mentioned in various interviews that BB has sold more tickets than PK and possibly the highest tickets sold in last decade! That matters something!
We can consider BB’s 320 crore is almost as good as PK’s 340 crores. Its not that big of a lead for a longer holiday release(PK released on Dec 19 and had lot of Christmas and New year holidays to make drop little less in 2nd and 3rd weeks whereas BB had regular following working weeks with no holidays at all).
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July 7, 2016 at 3:39 PM
“Whole industry accepts”.. whatever! Leaving this aside I’d be happy to accept this point if it were applied fairly to lots of other films. Has anyone checked how many tickets Ghajini sold for example?! It actually did hugely well in a lot of smaller centers. These points only come up very selectively. I myself have said some of these things in the past. But no one was interested. Somehow it’s hard to miss the narrative that when Aamir does it it’s nothing special, someone else can always do it. And when others miss the mark then there are all these special points to be made. Before competing with the absolute totals why aren’t these disclaimers attached. Why are these brought only after the film ‘fails’? Beyond this why not make the much more obvious point that to cross a film’s total one year or two years or three or four years later also isn’t particularly creditable for some of the reasons Saket has pointed out. So there’s simply bad faith in applying these arguments selectively. And now back to the game!
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July 7, 2016 at 3:45 PM
Btw, there is only 6-7 months between PK and BB. Also tickets sold usually comes only when there is another movie closing in on the highest grosser. But to make it more clear I feel both D3 and PK performed less than its potential and BB reached it max potential and at the best could have added more 5-10 crores. D3 could have easily been the 1st 300 crore grosser and PK could have crossed 350 easily and touch 375 crores if there was not that minority unhappy with the movie (unlike 3 Idiots).
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July 7, 2016 at 4:27 PM
PK performed marginally better than Bajrangi if we look at FT-OD ratios (12.44 vs 11.85). Don’t think it underperformed in any way.
Dhoom 3 on the other hand has an FT-OD ratio of 8 (all numbers from BOI, fyi), which indicates only an above-average acceptance response. Had it been liked as much as PK, it would have made more than 400 crores! So, in short, Dhoom 3 did not have the potential to do more, based on its final WOM.
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July 7, 2016 at 4:37 PM
PK was hampered by other factors which hampered its growth. A sort of propaganda started by vested interests. I liked D3 more than PK.
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July 7, 2016 at 3:35 PM
watching the exciting Germany-France game at the moment. Will get back to some of this later. Speaking for myself my PK point is against those who don’t discover such subtlety except when they’re playing favorites. I don’t disagree with too much that you’re saying but I’ve been polemicizing against some rather opportunistic fans here.
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July 7, 2016 at 3:38 PM
Not sure if you referred me but I have no favorites between PK and BB. I can easily see why PK is highest gross but personally I liked BB more. I am as fair I can be in these 2 movies. I didn’t even bring this discussion but adding to Saket’s point.
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July 7, 2016 at 3:51 PM
I was going through slippery slopes and how arguments can be twisted to suit one’s theory. Very interesting and hairsplitting too.
When one takes only one example in a long career of A, then B who has more than 5 films which were much more appreciated besides being boxoffice hits too. So who is the real winner here? Both have almost the same career span.
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July 7, 2016 at 4:02 PM
And what is that excuse that Raju Hirani is a franchise like Dhoom and so PK hit is not a great deal and so Aamir Khan who starred in PK is incidental and Hirani is the real winner. In that case, one must accept Hirani is lesser than Kabir Khan who made a better film. So the credit must go to Kabir Khan than Salman Khan if we stretch this argument further.
And the disclaimer is unnecessary as we all know
Saket is impartial and comes to conclusions based on his calculations. Ultimately it should be Hirani versus Kabir Khan than Salman Khan versus Aamir Khan because both are incidental. PK could have been done by Salman and BB could have been done by Aamir.
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July 7, 2016 at 4:11 PM
Actually, PK would never have Salman in it. Raju Hirani picked Aamir for a reason. Hirani did make Munnabhai films with Sanjay Dutt but by picking Aamir he took his box office performance to another level. I don’t think he ever thought of Salman as an option.
Regarding Bajrangi, there’s no doubt it had a fantastic performance at the BO (FT-OD ratio: 11.85) but so far, this film is the exception in Salman’s line-up. PRDP, for instance, had a FT-OD ratio of 5 even though it made close to 200 crores. His films start big but fizzle out sooner than later.
Aamir, with the exception of Talaash has had consistently high FT-OD ratios. His films, in the long run, are appreciated more compared to any other star.
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July 7, 2016 at 3:18 PM
Day 2 will be in the same range as Day 1 as the evening and night shows were better than Day 1 though the morning shows were lower than day 1. SS are very good and multiplexes performed well after evening..
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July 7, 2016 at 3:36 PM
Just back from the movie. To put it simply, this is gonna be huge winner for Salman Khan. It has potential to go near or over 300 crores but that little bit special feeling is missing like BB so I don’t think it will pass it. Overall, movie belongs to Salman Khan with his die-hard spirited performance. He has put his heart and soul in the movie and never looked lazy or dis-interested. This is 2nd time after BB where he showed his dedication(no need to think about talent but he’s good as he can in commercial format actor). Anushka is great in a smaller role and managed to speak Haranyvi accent good(though in some scenes accent wasn’t great). The songs were alright but the 2 lines title track which keeps coming in the movie every 15 mins absolutely rocks and builds up the tempo.
Haven’t read any reviews tlil now.. but this is a predictable movie and ideas borrowed from all great movies (lot of Rocky in it..) but eventually managed to deliver a proper hindi commercial venture. Ali Zafar has stretched his ability and deliveres finally a complete film and lot better than flawed Gunday(though I like his 1st movie Mere Brother ki..). The way it is shot and presented demands it to be watched on big screen, it should do unprecented business in interiors and have a longer shelf life on TV. There was lot of minor masala things which although predictable, director didn’t miss the punches and eventually everything helps in aiding to the culmination well.
Overall ,movie is Recommeded!!
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July 7, 2016 at 4:36 PM
If there is Any Movie that Can Beat PK’s Business, then it is Sultan – Aamir Khan
On Sultan, Aamir said, “It is an outstanding film. Kamaal ki film banayi hai. Kahani bahot hi jazbaati hai. Music bahot badhiya. Salman ne bahot behtareen kaam kiya hai. Anushka ne bhi. Film aisi hai jo dil ko chu jaati hai. Aapko entertain karti hai. It inspires you. Har cheez jo aap dhundte ho achi mainstream film main, wo isme hai. Mujhe lagta hai yeh film bahot hi kamyab hogi. Yeh bahot acha tohfa diya hai Salman Khan sahab ne. Congratulations to the entire team. – Ali, Salman and Anushka. Mujhe lagta hai ki yeh PK ka business agar koi film todegi, toh wo yeh film hogi
(It is a very well made movie with an emotional story line. The music of the movie is amazing. Salman has done some exceptional work and even Anushka. Sultan will touch your hearts. It entertains and inspires you. Whatever you want in a mainstream movie, is present in this film. I think this film will do great business. Salman has given a great gift to all his fans on Eid. If there is any movie that can beat PK’s business then it is Sultan.)
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July 7, 2016 at 4:40 PM
Looking at different scenarios, this is how things might pan out for Sultan:
1) If the film is liked as much as Bajrangi then it will gross close to 400 crores!
2) If the WOM is above average (Dhoom 3) it will end up close to 300 crores (280-300, to be precise)
3) If the WOM is below average/average (PRDP) it will end up close to 180-200 crores
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July 7, 2016 at 4:44 PM
I agree with your analysis. To me, WOM is above average to good, I gave it around 300 crores(little up or little down).
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July 7, 2016 at 5:07 PM
I also think option 2. I think people who have allergy to blood may avoid it. As I have said, the emotional connect is not there like Bajrangi. They tried but IMO, it is manufactured and nor organic like Bajrangi.
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July 7, 2016 at 6:10 PM
Looking at Hirani’s films, who’s by far the most successful director in present day Bollywood, one can surmise a few things:
1) Humor sells. Not crass humor, which has its limits, but genuine, family-friendly humor acts as a big audience hook. Anurag Kashyap’s films are also full of dark humor but that’s not everyone’s cup of tea (in fact, hardly anyone’s cup of tea!)
2) Humor + emotional message = big win. This also explains why a film like Oh My God did so well.
3) Films, hindi films in particular, need a big star. Add the star to #1 & #2 and you’ve suddenly got a very potent Box Office combination.
This doesn’t mean that other films aren’t good…far from it. The above factors only explain what’s considered to be “good” by a majority of the audience. Individual choices will differ, and indeed they should differ, otherwise it’d be the end of cinema as we know it.
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July 7, 2016 at 6:24 PM
Adding to point #3, Hirani + Aamir is a match made in heaven because they both display similar traits. While Hirani is a master at weaving an emotional yarn with dollops of humor added to the mix, Aamir is also famous for his choice of cerebral scripts. They both complement each other very well. They both have the tendency to generate positive WOM as well.
The odd thing about Hirani is that his musical sense is pretty average, to put it mildly. There are hardly any memorable songs in his films, and yet his films end up being such huge grossers. That’s a testament to his enormous skill (for lack of a better word) as a filmmaker who can connect to a wide range of audience, time and time again!
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July 7, 2016 at 8:04 PM
Agree with almost everything.
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July 7, 2016 at 4:43 PM
Actually its good that Raees moved away from clash. There is no way in the world it could top Sultan as a mainstream film or boxoffice returns. Maybe Raees could have been more critically acclaimed but no way it can bring the audience away from Sultan. Infact, I would think no other film in 2016(including Dangal) could be released around Sultan and yet managed to make its mark in opening week. Sultan is perfect Salman holiday release with the star at its peak and YRF backing the movie.
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July 7, 2016 at 4:02 PM
that was a harsh call against Germany!
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July 7, 2016 at 4:55 PM
Waiting to see how different or how similar Dangal will be. It seems there is no love story in Dangal. More about father and daughters.
Will Dangal benefit from Sultan? Not in BO terms but otherwise.
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July 7, 2016 at 8:13 PM
SRK on Eid 2016. (For few folks on here who thinks there is never any crowd outside Srk’s house – Mannat!)
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July 7, 2016 at 8:24 PM
Bharat mei logon ke paas bahut samay hai.
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July 7, 2016 at 10:15 PM
Sultan has had another huge day which should come out in the 35 crore nett range. It is slightly harder to judge than normal weeks as different circuits behave very differently due to the period so early collections have a bit more margin for error but what is clear is that there is not that drop that happens on the day after Eid. Also there is no precedence with Eid falling like it has.
Normally its around 15-20% fall but as the national Eid holiday fell on the last day of Ramazan which meant the film could get the full effect of the holiday so this has bennefited the film on day two and the fall will be minimal if there is one when final collections come tomorrow.
The first day record breaking circuits of East Punjab and Mysore are looking to drop 15% while other circuits will show minimal drops while Delhi / UP and Nizam / Andhra are looking at gains. If Gujarat / Saurashtra can gain the figure can get very close to the opening day figure. Basically the film was looking at a national holiday and a partial holiday in the first two days but with Eid coming late it has meant two partial holidays.
The target now for the film is the highest weekend in the history of Hindi cinema which at the moment is with Bajrangi Bhaijaan at 101.42 crore nett and another 30 crore nett plus day on Friday will take it there.
Boxofficeindia.com
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July 8, 2016 at 12:07 AM
BOI will update that 35 cr figure upwards. The Day 2 numbers coming in from some centres are huge and 20% more than Day 1. Specially the central India. Delhi and Mumbai will decide how much bigger than Day 1 this is. Some single screens in central India have tripled their Day 1 numbers. The post ID upsurge is evident in entire central India and UP. This is looking like anywhere between 37 to 40 crores now for Day 2
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July 8, 2016 at 6:22 AM
krish,
i thought you said there was a drop from day 1,looks like it beat the the day 1,there is no stopping for this blockbuster,its a huge for salman khan…..
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July 8, 2016 at 1:45 AM
Sultan did excellent business on day two with business set to be very close to the first day with business in the 35-36 crore nett region. The two day business will be in the 72 crore nett region. The film has actually gained in North India, Central India and Nizam / Andhra but when the final collections come from Mumbai circuit later on they will take the all India total a little lower than the first day.
Normally there is a 15-20% drop on the day after the Eid holiday but here there is hardly a drop as Eid actually fell a day later than the official holiday had been announced. This is also why the collections are all over the place with each circuit behaving differently depending on the holiday situation..
It is looking as per early estimates that it is the second time that a film has managed to score two days over 35 crore nett. The first being Bajrangi Bhaijaan last year which was over 35 crore nett on Saturday and Sunday. Dhoom 3 is the only film to score three days of over 30 crore nett and that is what Sultan can do or maybe even one better and a historic 4 or even 5 days of over 30 crore nett. But that will depend on where the films lands today.
The business is excellent all over but it is record breaking in East Punjab while Delhi / UP is playing catch up due to day one being Ramazan but the film is looking set for a fantastic run in North India. It was historic in North India on day two with business similar to Prem Ratan Dhan Payo record breaking day one. CI amd Nizam / Andhra also created history with the highest figures ever for any day in both circuits.
Boxofficeindia.com
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July 8, 2016 at 1:56 AM
Mudith Gupta, Managing Partner of Emgee Properties, filed the suit against Khan before senior Civil Division Court in Goa, Gupta’s lawyer Ranjith Shetty told PTI.
The court has fixed July 20 as the date of hearing.
Emgee Properties has already filed a complaint with Panaji police against Khan for alleged fraud of Rs 1.87 crore. Khan has challenged the FIR before Goa Bench of the Bombay High Court.
However, in a twist to the case, Gupta filed defamation suit against Khan citing various media statements made by her against him.
“Khan has issued statements through media that Gupta is trying to bully her. He is trying to pressurise her being a single mother. She has also said that the firm wanted to take some cheap architect,” Shetty said.
“Such statements have forced us to file a defamation suit against her to the tune of Rs 15 crore before Senior Civil Court in Panaji,” the lawyer said.
Panaji police had registered an FIR against Sussanne on June 9 after a real estate firm filed a complaint against her for allegedly cheating them to the tune of Rs 1.87 crore by posing as an architect. She had been booked under section 420 (cheating and dishonestly inducing delivery of property) of IPC.
Gupta had, in the complaint before police, alleged that she represented herself as an architect and designer, and in September 2013, the company executed a written contract with her “for architectural and designing services”.
The complaint stated that she failed to submit the requisite design in a stipulated period of time and that the designs submitted by her were not of professional standards.
The company alleged that she failed to execute the project based in Goa, thus cheating the firm of around Rs 1.87 crore, which was paid between September 21, 2013 to February 20, 2015.
Sussanne has dubbed the allegations against her as “false” and “defamatory” and a pressure tactic by the firm.
http://www.mid-day.com/articles/sussanne-khan-slapped-with-a-rs-15-crore-defamation-suit/17414164
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July 8, 2016 at 7:45 AM
Rangan on Sultan.
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July 8, 2016 at 10:05 AM
This is a must read review by Rangan , Maza aa gaya !!!
Some great lines from Rangan’s review-
1.Hence the non-MNC-ness of the brands that pop up in his wrestling career: Escort tractors, Kukreja pressure cookers. I was especially intrigued by two scenes. The first time we see Sultan, it’s during a wrestling match, and the crowds screaming his name are waving saffron and green flags. A nod to the star’s pan-Indian, pan-religious popularity?
2.Anushka Sharma is so good (she does brittleness very well), she makes us sense emotions that the script doesn’t spell out: resentment, perhaps even jealousy.
3.There are two great scenes with Sultan and Aarfa, one at a dargah, one at a hospital – I was surprised at how well Zafar modulated the melodrama.
4.As with Sunjay Dutt, I get the feeling that real-life troubles have had a part to play in the actor’s performances. Salman is a graver presence on screen. He projects maturity, even melancholy. It’s a real conundrum. The worse he behaves off-screen, the better his films seem to get.
and finally,
5. It’s impossible to separate Sultan from Salman, Salman from Sultan.the innocent with such a “saaf dil” that “Jo man mein aata hai, keh deta hoon.” Sultan is speaking to Aarfa (Anushka Sharma), but isn’t he really addressing the National Commission for Women? The knowledge that Sultan’s screenplay was written long before the NCW decided to haul him up for his remark about rape does little to dispel these resonances.
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July 8, 2016 at 10:32 AM
Good review by Rangan! The most surprising part about Sultan personally for me the ‘stillness’ of the movie. It never looked a movie which was started in December and Anushka only joining after 1 schedule in January and they managed to wrap such a long movie easily with lot of different locations, MMA style matches, lot of training by Salman Khan in outdoor locations etc in less than 6 months flat. It doesn’t look like a ‘project’ per se but a linear old-fashioned story narrated with lot of care and time and made over a year and not something to wrap quickly to meet the Eid release date!
Also, more importantly it doesn’t look like a project put up just to steal limelight from Dangal quickly. “At least on screen” it looks a film made with lot of time and effort. The director(Ali Abbas Zafar)’s last movie, Gunday, released in Feb 2014 and he has written story, screenplay, dialogues alone for Sultan and it takes time for such a huge project.
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July 8, 2016 at 7:51 AM
Shobhaa De @DeShobhaa 18h18 hours ago
Sultan:Satisfying all the way. Salman is the Sultan of Bollywood now. Anushka was feisty and tender, Randeep,terrific.300 crore hit.Pucca!
Ragini Khanna Actress @iraginikhanna 4h4 hours ago
Saw #sultan amidst100 people dancin in theatre showering confetti&money. @BeingSalmanKhan Aap Itne ache ho film mein,am at a loss of words🙏🏼
Girish Johar @girishjohar 2h2 hours ago
Can #Sultan do a 30crs + every day for its 1st 5 days …it looks like …if it does…no other film EVER his done it so far …HUUUUUGE !!!
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Girish Johar @girishjohar 2h2 hours ago
Bhai chasing Bhai #Sultan is poised to cross nett 100crs tday chasing fastest record of 100crs in 3dys by #BajrangiBhaijaan @BeingSalmanKhan
Amar Butala @amarbutala 2h2 hours ago
#Sultan grows even bigger on day 2! Thurs is a massive 37.25 cr.! The film is unstoppable! @BeingSalmanKhan @AnushkaSharma @aliabbaszafar
sabina lamba @SabinaLamba 2h2 hours ago
#Sultan weeknd almost certain 2 b record nw as it goes past 100cr,2 become only d 2nd film 2 hit century n 3days after
#BajrangiBhaijaan-BOI
Bollywood HungamaVerified account @Bollyhungama 4h4 hours ago Mumbai, India #BoxOffice @BeingSalmanKhan & @AnushkaSharma ‘s #Sultan collects Rs. 37.20 cr on (Eid) Day 2. Total Rs. 73.74 cr.
Anupama ChopraVerified account @anupamachopra 3h3 hours ago
Meanwhile @BeingSalmanKhan isn’t doing badly either! #Sultan #MarathaMandir
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July 8, 2016 at 7:57 AM
Himachal man surprises wife by booking an entire 120-seat theatre for Sultan HT Correspondent, Hindustan Times | Updated: Jul 08, 2016 11:43 IST
Geetanjali from Himachal Pradesh’s Hamirpur is a big fan of Salman Khan and when her husband Shankar Musafir bought tickets for the Bollywood star’s latest flick, Sultan, she thought it would be just another day.She was, however, in for a big surprise.
Musafir booked the entire 120-seat ARV Cinemas in Gurukul Mall a day before the release of the film about an ageing wrestler so that Geetanjali and he could watch the show on the first day.
“When Bajrangi Bhaijaan was released, Geetanjali asked me to get five tickets for the show. But I could not arrange it. Now, I decided to surprise her by booking the entire show,” Musafir, an alumnus of Delhi’s Jawaharlal Nehru University, said.
New Delhi-based educationist Musafir married Geetanjali in April this year. “I am so happy. I don’t think anybody has given such a surprise to his wife in Hamirpur,” Geetanjali said.
Amit Thakur, the managing director of the mall, said that Musafir booked all the seats in the theatre and told him he will come with 120 people.
“But we were surprised to find that he came only with his wife,” he added.
http://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/himachal-man-surprises-wife-by-booking-an-entire-120-seat-theatre-for-sultan/story-Gop5FWr5BS8ooFYSWn4xRL.html
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July 8, 2016 at 9:42 AM
They plan to watch the movie or have fornicate? And this fellow calls himself an educationist..
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July 8, 2016 at 9:47 AM
I have this family friend who always books minumum 4 seats or 6 while going to movie with his wife in India. Too much crowd!
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July 8, 2016 at 10:04 AM
oh you mean because she could be molested?
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July 8, 2016 at 10:14 AM
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July 8, 2016 at 4:15 PM
drona 2.0. hindi cinema should just quit trying to do these types of movies.
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July 8, 2016 at 1:48 PM
Sultan has continued to create history on day three as the film will record three consecutive days of 30 crore nett plus business as it grosses in the range of 33 crore nett on day three. Again Eid is still on in various circuits so its and up and down scenario and final all India number will depend on where the final Mumbai figures comes out in the morning. The hold is phenomenal in Delhi / UP and Nizam / Andhra.
What is clear is that the trend is better than normal for the the third day after Eid holiday as its normally a 20% drop but here its looking to more closer to 10%. Eid falling late may be a reason for this but that will only be known over next two days.
The only film to collect over 30 crore nett in three consecutive days before was Dhoom 3 which grossed a that time record 98 crore nett while Sultan has gone to a phenomenal 106-107 crore nett. This is an all time record opening three day opening weekend beating the numbers of Bajrangi Bhaijaan which were 101.42 crore nett.
The century mark in three days has only been hit by two films Sultan and Bajrangi Bhaijaan, both Eid releases and both Salman Khan starrers.
Boxofficeindia.com
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July 8, 2016 at 11:14 PM
satish kaushik @satishkaushik2 7h7 hours ago
Uff what a film #Sultan @BeingSalmanKhan what a great performance..u r like a raging bull..unstoppable..hats off to the makers and the crew
Vijender Singh @boxervijender 5h5 hours ago
@SultanTheMovie Kya Kamal wah Bhai man ge 👌 @BeingSalmanKhan Uk me bhe dhmal 😄
Faridoon Shahryar @iFaridoon 9h9 hours ago
Watching #Sultan the 2nd time around was an even better experience..more claps n whistles..this time in the MMA fights in d 2nd half..
Siddhartha Basu @babubasu 1h1 hour ago
Fine performances by the supporting cast is a hallmark of #Sultan. #Anant Sharma as Govind is outstanding
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July 8, 2016 at 11:18 PM
This is a great article !
http://indianexpress.com/article/entertainment/bollywood/sultan-salman-khan-anushka-sharma-sets-a-benchmark-for-getting-the-technique-right-a-sports-writer-perspective-2899547/
Sultan sets a benchmark for getting the technique right: A sports writer’s perspective
The first few minutes of the movie Sultan are sheer madness. The deafening cheers in the theatre make it hard to focus on what unfolds on the screen. It was no different from what usually happens in front of the screen for a Salman Khan movie, but what happened behind was definitely a break from the usual, or as Indian Express movie critic Shubhra Gupta pointed out, “Salman breaking free from bhai-giri bondage”.
Sports biopics have been criticised for the misrepresentation of the game on the screen. It’s easy for the actors to get in shape for the role, but giving shape to the role is what counts, especially in movies like Sultan.
The challenge was a stiff one for someone like Salman. Yes, he has a decent physique and has inspired plenty to stay in shape in the industry, but the demands and techniques of wrestling are not as easy as ‘Sultan’ pulls them off – first in a tiny ‘langot’ in the ‘akhada’ then in proper gear on the mat. Anushka Sharma was the real talking point when it comes to executing the moves but we will come to her later.
The highlight of the movie, for me, was the way Salman delivered the ‘Sultan slam’. So it started with the ‘German Suplex’ – something which we have seen WWE stars Kurt Angle and Brock Lesnar enthrall the spectators with numerous times – and ended with the drop that pinned the opponent.
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July 8, 2016 at 11:23 PM
Anushka Sharma’s participation in the shameless sexism of ‘Sultan’ is hugely disappointing
http://www.firstpost.com/bollywood/anushka-sharmas-participation-in-the-shameless-sexism-of-sultan-is-hugely-disappointing-2880940.html
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July 8, 2016 at 11:51 PM
Clearly the writer of this this piece has seen a totally different movie or writing a column just for the heck of it just to fill up some space. She was shown a modern , strong, independent woman with a mind of her own and always in charge.
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July 9, 2016 at 12:49 AM
Wow this guy has a stick up his a**. just watched the movie and it’s not at all anti women equality and to blame Anushka, really wtf? It’s almost just as extreme blaming her when Virat gets out cheaply.
It’s a actually a very smartly constructed Salman film with a lot of desiness that will appeal both to the interiors and multiplex audience. Very long but I could have sat longer.
SRK really needs a prestige hit at this point, even Salman has left him far behind!!
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July 8, 2016 at 11:44 PM
This is clearly a better movie than BB and can easily be slotted for a repeat watch. This a first complete movie of Salman after Wanted for me with hardly any visible flaw. After a long time i watched a movie without getting restless for even a small moment. Bajrangi Bhaijaan was nice, but was uplifted to a great extent by the innocence of the mute girl character which concealed some of its flaws.
Rangan has perfectly reviewed the movie in terms of the movie itself and also the outer politics / personal demons assigned in Salman’s world.
What a great movie and value wise , this an ultimate in Hindi movie entertainment. Hats off to Anushka for bringing so much authenticity to her character. She is naturally gifted like Kajol and there is nothing fake about any of her emotions in the movie. Perfect support cast and ace direction.
Just loved it !
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July 8, 2016 at 11:55 PM
The movie has a genuine chance to hit 400 cr. And the 5th day Sunday might be the highest grossing day among first 5 days
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July 9, 2016 at 2:00 AM
Amazing, what are your weekend and week predictions right now?
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July 9, 2016 at 5:11 AM
we are looking at possibly a 225 cr week 1 here…Today it is again better than yesterday.
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July 9, 2016 at 7:03 AM
Today , Saturday might be more than last 3 days….Noon shows are excellent.
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July 9, 2016 at 8:52 AM
7 or 9 day?
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July 9, 2016 at 2:55 AM
Came back after watching 2nd time. Totally loved it. Went with huge group and everyone loved it. This will break PK’s record without much struggle IMO.
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July 9, 2016 at 3:11 AM
Looks like it I would be surprised if not after the remarkable first 3 days…5 straight days of 30+ on cards it’s already half way there.
If Monday hold is similar to PK, D3 or BB…it will past D3 in 9 days flat!
This is 400cr on the cards!
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July 9, 2016 at 3:35 AM
GGM is releasing next week. That will take away the more lucrative multiplex screens…
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July 9, 2016 at 3:48 AM
I think it is an adult movie. There is Irrfan’s Madari.
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July 9, 2016 at 6:08 AM
True GGM will hurt it both at multiplexes and single screens. It will lose screens to it as well as Madaari. Even 1 open week would have helped but Sultan doesn’t have that.
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July 9, 2016 at 2:18 AM
When Dallas police used a bomb-carrying robot to kill a sniper, they also kicked off an ethical debate about technology’s use as a crime-fighting weapon.
In what appears to be an unprecedented tactic, police rigged a bomb-disposal robot to kill an armed suspect in the fatal shootings of five officers in Dallas. While there doesn’t appear to be any hard data on the subject, security experts and law enforcement officials said they couldn’t recall another time when police have deployed a robot with lethal intent.
The strategy opens a new chapter in the escalating use of remote and semi-autonomous devices to fight crime and protect lives. It also raises new questions over when it’s appropriate to dispatch a robot to kill dangerous suspects instead of continuing to negotiate their surrender.
“If lethally equipped robots can be used in this situation, when else can they be used?” says Elizabeth Joh, a University of California at Davis law professor who has followed US law enforcement’s use of technology. “Extreme emergencies shouldn’t define the scope of more ordinary situations where police may want to use robots that are capable of harm.”
Dallas Police chief David Brown defended his department’s decision. “Other options would have exposed our officers to great danger,” he said.
Dallas Mayor Mike Rawlings applauded Brown for making “the right call” and said he would have no qualms about resorting to the same strategy in the future. “When there’s no other way, I think this is a good example,” he said. “The key thing is to keep our police out of harm’s way.”
http://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/killer-robot-used-by-dallas-police-to-neutralise-sniper-opens-ethical-debate/story-Hjvbllot6M5C0EBxnBfnLP.html
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July 9, 2016 at 2:24 AM
In Salman’s case, thousands of us rushed to condemn him on social media but didn’t question the presence of the same patriarchy in our lives–we didn’t think of when we make casual sexist jokes, when we inadvertently make workplaces unsafe for women, when we reduce women to their looks in engineering and scientific institutes and when we make it impossible for women to step out and enjoy public spaces.
We bandied the word ‘rape culture’ about and berated Salman for furthering it, but didn’t think about the WhatsApp forwards in our phones that are as offensive as Salman’s comments. We didn’t wonder if watching movies with the same violent language and actions will bolster a culture where sexual violence is seen as a legitimate tool to silence women.
But the second and more important take-away is that it never helps to put all the blame on individuals for prejudices in our society’s structures. Salman Khan was a prominent target and it is important to condemn his words but such critique will do little to smash patriarchy if the words don’t shape our actions. So the next time we condemn a celebrity bad boy, maybe we will spare some time to question the insidious everyday misogyny and patriarchy that so many of us benefit from.
Maybe we will think about making our public spaces safer, calling out colleagues who leer or are sexist or complain against teachers who abuse or harass students. But more importantly, maybe we will start thinking of patriarchy as a structure that oppresses a vast section of women and non-binary, LGBT folks instead of individual acts.
http://www.hindustantimes.com/editorials/sultan-is-a-hit-sound-and-fury-over-salman-comment-signifies-nothing/story-7roCAtyvbHdkUdZfpH9GjL.html
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July 9, 2016 at 2:34 AM
Sultan was excellent again on day three with business of 31.50 crore nett apprx as per early estimates which has taken its three day weekend business to around the 105 crore nett which is an all time record for Hindi cinema. The drop on day three is 15% which is excellent as its coming of a holiday period though in some parts the Eid factor is still helping collections and this will ease slowly over the weekend.
The film is still going up and down in the various circuits and it will be Monday that the circuits will come done to the more normal ratios. On day three Mumbai, Rajasthan and Nizam / andhra all held very well, Delhi / UP was phenomenal as it did better than the first day while East Punjab which smashed all records in the first two days had the biggest drop.
The third day has ensured the film is the biggest hit of the year although thats not really saying much when Airlift, the biggest hit of the year prior to Sultan only did well only in the main cities meaning its hardly competition for a real Hindi film like Sultan.
Its difficult to say where the collections will go today as there is no precedence in the recent past to how Eid has fallen and then the fourth day being a Saturday which is a day where some circuit shows healthy gains. But here its not the second day but fourth day which should makes gains harder.
Boxofficeindia.com
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July 9, 2016 at 3:33 AM
This lovely note by Harsha Bhogle aptly sums up MS Dhoni’s legacy
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July 9, 2016 at 11:02 AM
That’s great read on Dhoni.
…and he remains my favorite all time cricketers which probably has Imran, Kapil, Viv Richards and McGrath to name a few. In Sultan context he is a real son of the soil and I can easily imagine him with ‘ Khoon mein tere mitti Mitti mein tera khoon.’
We may have all played galli cricket and at times due to constraints of awkward field, broken bat or make shift arrangements came up with ‘jugaadu’ shots to get the job done…..and Dhoni took one of those innovation to international level in the form of his famous ‘Helicopter shot’.
But his greatest gift to Indian cricket which we as nation lacked even after having so many superstars was to play ‘selfless’ game focused towards winning. Since we are talking about Harsha Bhogle one of his famous quotes was – “if Dhoni plays till the end, one thing is for sure, he will make his team win”
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July 9, 2016 at 10:15 AM
might possibly watch it tonight.. it can’t get to 300 without me (!).. Bajrangi was the only Salman I saw in the theater!
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July 9, 2016 at 10:28 AM
LOL!! If you don’t watch it, get ready for a conspiracy theory…
No BAHUBALI 2, No KABAALI to — as great men of this decade have surmised, throw a monkey wrench in the works…
Aside, if somebody like you Satyam is forced to watch it, then 450 is guaranteed..
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July 9, 2016 at 10:37 AM
let’s say that with both Bajrangi and this one I was ‘persuaded’ by larger groups to watch the film. Which still proves the point though since no one was persuading anyone for Prem Ratan..! Seriously though I did enjoy Bajrangi but wouldn’t have seen it on my own. For a number of years now unless it’s an Aamir film or a good Abhishek one (since he’s been doing this ‘other’ stuff for some time!) or something with his father (saw Piku twice) I generally don’t watch any kind of Hindi film on my own. Even at home I probably watch no more than 6-10 Hindi films every year. My interest in ‘Bollywood’ is pretty close to zero.
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July 9, 2016 at 10:52 AM
I haven’t seen the movie so cannot comment. But I am getting the feeling from the reviews that this movie’s strengths are being over-blown. And I am talking of the ‘rationalists’ here. Not ‘fans.’ BB hit the right spots and though not great by any standards, it was intriguing and held interest throughout, mainly, for me, by Nawaz’s outstanding comic turn. I am mentally too old to get turned on by the ‘cute’, ‘deaf-mute’ girl emotional manipulations.
None of the critics, except BR, seem to have fulsomely praised this one. Everybody has complained of the length, some shoddy editing, etc., etc.,. I didn’t read this kind of stuff for BB. Everybody was pleased with the movie over-all. Here, it only seems to be Salman-porn and Anushka.
I of course would always trust BR over any other critic but he has his weak spots too, as his review of 24 revealed. Rushed to the movie based on his review but apart from a few, very few masala moments and a spirited performance from Surya, it was an over-blown, over-bloated mess of a movie. And way, way, too long. That idiotic romantic angle of Surya playing with time to impress the lady literally gave me the nails-on-the-black-board feeling. Shekhar Kapur’s MR. India, and then a distant second, ROBOT, to me, remain the pinnacle of sci-fi merged with masala on Indian celluloid. [Of course, I have tremendous weakness for all the oldie Kishore’s ‘invisible-man’ films like MR. X IN BOMBAY.]
I have never been interested, as you, in checking out Salman in theater. Except DABAANG, which I truly enjoyed like a comic-masala-book, I haven’t seen a single Salman movie in theater, and intend not to. He is too off-putting as a being ‘in-human’ human off-screen and extremely ordinary as an actor on-screen to invest my money and time in.
And also, it is just that I grew older and wiser tasting the lion’s blood. When Amitabh has whetted your appetite with a full-course meal not merely as a star but a rare combination of an exemplary star-actor, why go for the starters?
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July 9, 2016 at 11:20 AM
agreed An Jo.. I’d be shocked if this were half as good as Bajrangi which itself I didn’t find stunning (!). In fairness I didn’t find PK or 3I stunning either (though preferred both to Bajrangi.. 3I was certainly superior to both, i.e. relative to what each film was trying to do) for those here who think I’m unnecessarily soft on Aamir’s films (in Hollywood terms if you’re a Leo fan and like most of his films because he works with the right directors most of the time or does that sort of sensible stuff while someone else likes Vin Diesel you don’t exactly have the burden of proof on yourself but with Bollywood fans its the opposite.. but on Aamir’s films I’d take Talaash over both of his Hirani efforts.. maybe I’m the only person on the planet to have this view but there it is!).
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July 9, 2016 at 11:15 AM
We know and read so much about movies and the hype that a lot of time expectations kill the fun so I would still suggest going in with normal /usual expectations.
Can’t say much on box-office & ‘conspiracies’ ( lol ) , but there is no past precedent of extra ordinary trending for a big ticket ‘liked’ movie during normal days…(not talking about Queen, Piku type of movies) . Due to heavy duty ticketing prices in India , the only real time trending of such big movies is only witnessed at Christmas / New Year time where holidays keeping popping up by the dozen and the holiday mood magnify the movie going experience. Last year we witnessed Bajirao Mastani another liked movie taking big jumps on numerous holidays to get to that gigantic total. PK, Ghajini and 3 Idiots have done that.
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July 9, 2016 at 11:19 AM
We are living in different time and though there is no comparisons to be made here , sometime one feels even Amitabh himself wouldn’t be able to replicate half of what he did since he fit in the times he ruled. Abhishek is a perfect replica of Bachchan in terms of his build, stride , voice etc and could easily maneuver us with a U.P …..ite bhaiyya swagger but those things don’t work anymore…..similarly SRK had found the right groove with his romantic take filled with Indian economical rise / globalized India.
Times have changed otherwise we would be replacing The Godfather each year with current releases.
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July 9, 2016 at 1:07 PM
** sometime one feels even Amitabh himself wouldn’t be able to replicate half of what he did since he fit in the times he ruled. **
I guess that explains the fact that Amitabh ruled from ’73 to ’90. And that he invented himself in the ‘millennium’ after being handled by directors who just didn’t know what to do with him from mid-’90s to 2000 and his resurgence post 2000 that warranted this article..
http://archives.digitaltoday.in/indiatoday/20040223/cover.html
And as I said before, let Salman attempt even a 1000th of watered-down stardom the way Hrishikesh and Basu and Shakti used him in their films, and then we can talk…
Let’s see where Salman and SRK end up at 60 +. I see only Aamir making that bridge based on his penchant for not resorting to self-porn but always being a sub-set of a film…
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July 9, 2016 at 1:41 PM
@Let’s see where Salman and SRK end up at 60 +”
Oh no! That’s a fallacy! They are so much more than you credit them for and have already played a very long inning by any bollywood standards. I remember towards late 90s and early 2000s many were already writing their obituaries as they had already long over played their lover boy image /roles. Their diminutive build / stature itself was hindrance to get into any other genre or action roles but look what Aamir did with just one Ghajini and made us all sit up and take him seriously as an action hero.
In fact , not only Khans, I credit Akshay and Ajay too for reinventing themselves at regular intervals and remain relevant not to simply “survive” the box-office but be the force they are and continue ruling at the top. These 5 will not only survive but remain at the top of the heap for a good period of time.
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July 9, 2016 at 1:45 PM
An Jo, don’t take this stuff so seriously. People are still making the comparisons with Bachchan from SRK in the 90s to Salman today. they’re not making them with anyone else! Before that there was a whole host of other stars in the 80s from Mithun to Vinod Khanna to Anil Kapoor. It’s like Sachin. Is Sehwag better? Is Dravid? Is Kohli? Even Kambli briefly. and so it goes. If you’re the constant in every debate you’re doing pretty well! But leaving this aside we see all kinds of absurd claims being made online all the time. The online world is where one’s parallel universe can nonetheless find like-minded takers. Add to this the fact that people have a very poor sense of the past. And so these things keep arising. Some years down the line we’ll see others being compared to bachchan too. And these folks don’t even remember what happened 5-10 years ago let alone anything more. By the way it doesn’t even take Salman’s otherwise uncanny run since Dabanng to make the point. As you know the Akshay Kumar fan makes the very same claims with one tenth the results! It’s anything goes! Salman’s run has been incredible without a doubt. But there are things that are incredible on earth that don’t make the earth the sun! Guess you know where I’m going with this! To be honest I even used to debate some of this stuff years ago with the SRK folks and so on. Leaving aside the fact that I simply don’t have as much interest (or time) to keep doing the same it is also the case that the claims have got even crazier since. At some point the Alice in Wonderland Mad Hatter dictum holds ‘you must be mad or you wouldn’t be here’! If one keeps arguing this stuff one must truly be mad!
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July 9, 2016 at 1:55 PM
by the way the age thing is a fallacy too.. I’ve expanded on this many times before and won’t again except that those who think stars cannot survive for 30-35 years at various levels just don’t know their history. The idea that the contemporary stars have survived whereas earlier people did not is also an illiterate claim. I could name many stars. Secondly there’s an even bigger fallacy anyway. A tennis star might last till 30 and win 15 titles and not win anything after that. Another guy lasts till 35 and gets 10. So what? Finally it’s important not to take a star’s success (at any given point in time) and give his entire career the afterglow of the same. Again Salman’s run is pretty remarkable (though note it’s not so much so by South Indian standards.. what does his career prove? That there was such a market even in Hindi which multiplex cinema ignored for very long.. now with Salman you have essentially a Southern mass star.. but of course every Southern mass star isn’t Rajni). There’s a lot that could be said about Salman’s completely unexpected present run but a pond isn’t the best place to start!
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July 9, 2016 at 5:20 PM
Abhishek is a perfect replica of Bachchan in terms of his build, stride , voice etc and could easily maneuver us with a U.P …..ite bhaiyya swagger
LOL what makes you think Abhishek is even 1/1000th the actor or star that Amitabh was at his peak? That’s the problem I have with comparisons — Abhishek is used as a stick to bring down Amitabh Bachchan, something that’s just plain wrong.
And Abhishek’s been educated in Switzerland…he wouldn’t know a thing about the heartland even if he tried his best. He’s what one would call a child raised in privilege — the one with the proverbial silver spoon in his mouth, so to speak — and nothing about his appearance or even his voice reminds me of Amitabh. Nothing! If Abhishek’s failure is used to cast doubts on Amitabh’s stardom, or even question it, that’s like looking at Arjun Tendulkar and then questioning Sachin’s greatness. Or looking at Rohan Gavaskar and pointing fingers at Sunil Gavaskar. You get the idea…
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July 9, 2016 at 5:30 PM
I wasn’t going to say this earlier (what’s the point with some folks?!) but it’s pretty perverse to argue that a star who’s as much Bachchan’s spawn in terms of operating in that space he opened up as scores of others North or South (Salman of course comes at it via the Telugu remake route or that brand of masala) is suddenly judged to be capable of that which the god of this genre (among other things) might not have managed.
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July 10, 2016 at 11:25 AM
@”what makes you think Abhishek is even 1/1000th the actor or star that Amitabh was at his peak? ”
Well unlike you very few here say – Abhishek is even 1/1000th the actor Amitabh is…….
Obviously there is no comparison but subconsciously knowing Abhishek standing on this blog, I was using The Godfather equivalence of ‘making a statement people can’t refute’
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July 10, 2016 at 11:28 AM
that doesn’t make any sense.. you can’t use a position you don’t subscribe to.. that’s rather cynical. Don’t be so shy by the way.. you probably think Salman is like Amitabh or greater but for the difference in their periods. One should be open about one’s ‘madness’!
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July 9, 2016 at 11:24 AM
addatoday.com @addatoday 1h1 hour ago
#Sultan 4th Day (SAT) Collection Early Trends. Unprecedented Housefull Everywhere! http://www.addatoday.com/2016/07/sultan-4th-day-saturday-collection.html … @BeingSalmanKhan @AnushkaSharma
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July 9, 2016 at 1:27 PM
Just back from ‘Sultan’. Slept through the entire second half. Had gone in with a slight headache…came back with one that was much worse. It started off well enough. Very rooted and lively. The romance between Salman and Anushka was well written and performed. After some dull portions, the plot turn just before the interval was handled well. But after that it was dull, plodding and predictable storytelling all the way till the end. Imagine, showing three MMA matches back to back, with no new detailing! So boring and unimaginative. It was all so somber and serious, trying so hard to look like serious drama. I am so de-energized can’t muster the strength to write anything more. Give me ‘Kick’ any day!
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July 9, 2016 at 1:49 PM
watching it tonight but from the very first trailer I expected the second half to be a let down. Not surprised. I’d be very surprised at a Bajrangi-like run here irrespective of the numbers. D3 is much more likely. How much that kind of run is worth today given that Sultan is ahead remains to be seen. What I do know is that irrespective of the numbers when the fade happens it can be dramatic. D3 more or less broke every record for a week or ten days. The steam this one has built up might be good for 300 and that’s certainly nothing to be sneezed at (in other words it could do that sort of number with less than Bajrangi trending). But add another 20-40 crores to that remains to be seen. If I were betting I’d say it won’t get to PK despite this start (possibly it might even fall short of Bajrangi) but I could be completely wrong about this.
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July 9, 2016 at 5:01 PM
Satyam, I think you’ll like this more than BB for sure. This is in more traditional masala style treatment and movie touching to the heartland easily!
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July 9, 2016 at 5:22 PM
good to hear.. to be honest I’m not concerned about the first half.. just the second one.
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July 9, 2016 at 5:38 PM
I think you need to be open minded. The 2nd half is not like some MTV channel type crap but still has lot of masala treatment and still managed to strike a chord. Difficult to shoot the fights without getting repetitive or borrowing from other movies but still I feel they managed to do it great and brought lot of Hindi films language and not some HW remake style. That actually helped the movie a lot IMO.
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July 9, 2016 at 5:40 PM
The thing is I’m not much of a fan of the Hollywood-like sports narrative. Even in Hollywood. Barring the Rocky series where too I really like the first one (some of the others are enjoyable but not even remotely close to the first one’s mood.. also a persona that I love..).
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July 9, 2016 at 5:45 PM
I will say Utkal isn’t the only one here.. I’ve heard complaints about this film’s second half. With Bajrangi it was extremely hard to find someone who hadn’t liked it. I could be wrong about this film’s prospects, I of course haven’t seen it yet, but I also know these numbers start flying fast and thick (in terms of predictions) every time there’s a big release and these have very rarely been borne out eventually.
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July 9, 2016 at 5:00 PM
You shouldn’t go to a movie with a headache.. i don’t blame the movie but you Utkal ji! 🙂
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July 9, 2016 at 1:50 PM
Utkal I understand your issues but for me , all the fight and build up was very well executed. Even though India is hardly a MMA type nation plus the outcome was a foregone conclusion, still the fight development / escalation together with the background score easily pulled out those nationalistic feelings to root for Sultan.
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July 9, 2016 at 2:01 PM
Amar Butala @amarbutala 3m3 minutes ago
Wait for the Saturday box office numbers of #Sultan ! They are going to be INSANE!! @BeingSalmanKhan #sultanbreaksrecords
Bollywood Business @BHT_OFFICIAL 4m4 minutes ago
Today #Sultan Aiming for 40cr mark bt yes the 4th day of film will B highest day also till now a rare trend On a Normal day aftr 3 huge days
Boxofficedetail @boxofficedetail 1h1 hour ago
The way #Sultan is going it will cross 300cr Worldwide tomorrow.. Reports are strong, lifetime will be very huge!!
Ravi Teja @raviteja 2h2 hours ago
#Sultan superb film.. I traveled with the film.. Felt every emotion.. @AnushkaSharma & @BeingSalmanKhan performance peaks !! Loved it
Joginder Tuteja @Tutejajoginder 3h3 hours ago
#Sultan – It is HUGE. The @BeingSalmanKhan starrer is now set for these records:
FASTEST 150 cr
FASTEST 200 cr
FASTEST 250 cr
FASTEST 300 cr
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July 9, 2016 at 2:05 PM
Sultan Creates Havoc On Saturday
Sultan has created havov across India on day four with collections that are just unbelievable. It will only be known exactly in the morning but it seems possible that not only has the fillm seen the highest daily collection of its run but possible the highest single day in the history of Hindi cinema. This has happenned on the fourth day of the film and that too after three huge days. There is the Eid affect in muslim centres which last for three days so today will be last but simply put the collections are crazy.
An early estimate for the collections on Saturday are around 38-39 crore nett though as has been the case over the past few days it will be no surprise if the film goes over the 39.32 crore all time single day record of Prem Ratan Dhan Payo. This is because there is difference of behavior in circuits due to Eid and what is being estimating has a bigger margin of error than normal. the total of the film in four days will be close to 145 crore nett.
It is just a shocker to see a film rise like this despite the holiday period in most places finished and another huge rise may well mean the sort of word of mouth that has not been seen probably in the last 15 years and the film could go anywhere.
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July 9, 2016 at 2:09 PM
Had forgotten to out the link to above commentary and please credit it to Box Office India
below too from –
http://www.boxofficeindia.com/index.php#.V4E9i7grKM8
HISTORIC – Sultan Tops 200 Crore Smashes Worldwide Record
Saturday 09 July 2016 17.30 IST
Sultan created history by becoming the first film to cross 200 crore in Worldwide business in the first weekend as the film grossed 148 crore (Gross) in India and $8.60 million Overseas (58 crore). This gave it a three day Worldwide gross total of 206 crore. Below are the top five Wordwide opening three day weekends.
1. Sultan – 206 crore apprx
2. Dhoom 3 – 193.32 crore
3. Bajrangi Bhaijaan – 187.24 crore
4. Prem Ratan Dhan Payo – 185.14 crore
5. PK – 174.40 crore
The figures are outstanding across the world. The final worldwide total will go a little higher as the Gulf business like for like is normally four days for other films while three here as normally UAE opens a day early while other nations in Gulf open on Friday. The Overseas total will go higher due to this and it is the second highest opening ever in Oversaes after Dhoom 3.
The industry and media still see 100 crore lifetime domestic totals as achievements for many films when they are not but this is a true benchmark that the film has gone through to become the first film to cross 200 crore Worldwide in just 3 days.
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July 9, 2016 at 2:26 PM
Again an example of how these guys can’t resist the bull. To repeat 3I’s trending (2.5 times its week 1 number) it would have to do roughly 450 crores in its overall run. To repeat LRM’s it would have to do in excess of 600 crores. To just repeat Ghajini it would have to make at least 360-400 crores (depending on what the week 1 number is). I could keep multiplying these examples. Presumably trending is not divorced from WOM?! If the film is really going to do 350 or 400 it won’t be a debatable point then but let’s see. There have been lots of hurricane starts with lots of films that got the same breathless ‘record-breaking’ commentary. Let’s see where it is when the dust settles.
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July 9, 2016 at 4:06 PM
After such a world wind start, it’ll have to minimum crack 300 cr now.
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July 9, 2016 at 4:19 PM
After seeing the movie, I think 400 should be achievable….The audience response is simply out of this world. The last time I saw such a response was in 3Idiots.
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July 9, 2016 at 4:28 PM
If response is anything close to 3 idiots…400 cr is a walk in the park after this start
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July 9, 2016 at 4:33 PM
I don’t see any reason why it wont stroll to 400 even assuming the screens it will invariably lose to GGM
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July 9, 2016 at 4:43 PM
400 or not.. one thing is for sure, this will be highest grosser and will beat PK. Even if it falls short and wraps in between 350-380 is really huge from a movie like Sultan with no known director!
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July 9, 2016 at 5:23 PM
yes if it’s 3I-like that’s for sure.. the better comparison might be Bajrangi though. Because 3I got a lot of repeats from a very high percentage of the younger multiplex demographic. Doesn’t happen that often. If Sultan is liked as much as Bajrangi then with a much bigger start it ought to be able to cross PK.
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July 9, 2016 at 4:23 PM
The difference in the collection of this movie from other hurricane starts is that the 4th day is bigger than the first 3 days and more so when the first three days had some holidays in some form or other. Sunday will be 42+ I think..
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July 10, 2016 at 12:58 AM
But Satyam I am not sure you can extrapolate in the same ratios. 3I did 2.5 times the week 1 on a 70 cr opening. If a movie has a 250 cr Week 1, you cant expect it to do 600 crores to reach 3I levels. Because it has already done thrice of 3I in week 1. A better way to measure is footfalls. and am sure Sultan will exceed the footfalls of 3I by the time it touches 350 crores. While trending is not doubt a good indicator the ratio of trending can differ depends on the type of opening it gets. And of course there is the factor of lack of screen space in India!!
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July 10, 2016 at 2:19 AM
3I was 80 in week 1 not 70. And this was record-breaking for its time. Secondly the trending expectations remain the same one way or the other. In Hollywood when it’s the Avengers it’s also expected to make 600m. On the same trending grounds. And the film is liked enough it does this. But whether a film opens at 40m or 180m the trending expectations are similar. And again we see this with the Aamir films. Since Lagaan almost all of his films at every end of the production spectrum, mass-oriented or multiplex, maintain a certain trending. How did that happen?
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July 10, 2016 at 4:10 AM
Hollywood has unlimited screen space, that luxury is not there in Bollywood. IMO footfalls tell you the number of people who watches the movie. As long as a movie keeps exceeding the previous movies footfalls, one can say it is well accepted. Even Aamirs movies haven’t trended 2,5 times the opening week no?
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July 10, 2016 at 8:48 AM
yes but 2.5 times is not the standard. Most Aamir hits have at least doubled the week 1 number. D3 didn’t and we pointed this out here. It wasn’t even close to it. However with Salman you don’t have a single film so far, not one, that has doubled its week 1 number at end level of the game. Take Dabanng. Opened exactly like 3I. Fell 60 crores behind that film. Take every other film. Bajrangi is his best trending film by far. even that didn’t double week 1 though the result was otherwise acceptable. This isn’t the case though for every other film of his. How does screen space suddenly become an issue for non-Aamir films? Why is he able to produce that trending in every genre from RDB to Fanaa to TZP to Ghajini to 3I? Even an under-performing (on trending by his standards) PK was enough to make it the top grosser that even the biggest openers have not beaten so far. And this wasn’t done just on the strength of a mind-blowing initial as will be the case with Sultan or any other film that eventually crosses it. All of this isn’t an argument for Aamir as many people seem to think. Whether I like him or not this is about the facts. And it’s about time one stopped making excuses to explain away Aamir’s success and to similarly explain away the relative failures of others. So you can do 150-200 in a week, there’s no screen problem, you can break every record but suddenly when there’s a problem in week 2 or 3.. oops.. there weren’t screens, Salman didn’t get a good director, he had competition, etc etc. Aamir has a whole body of evidence post-Lagaan. Salman has a similar body of evidence post-Dabanng. In one case poor trending is the exception, in the other case the rule. There’s no getting away from this. Now are Salman’s films poor most of the time? Should one be surprised if these films did better? Sure! But that’s the kind of star he is. I’ve said this many times in the past. His appeal is based on the very thing that is also his weakness. The audience is not in it to watch him do anything serious. Bajrangi.. is the best deal that can be cut with the audience. But you can’t do that sort of subject every time. The regular Salman film, the kind everyone gets excited to see, is a fairly trashy sort of product. With few exceptions. Nothing wrong with this. I’m not making a judgment here. It works for him. More power to him. But given the kind of star and actor he is it would be very hard for him to suddenly turn serious.
If Salman’s films cross Aamir’s regular hey that’s great for him. I don’t have an issue with it whatever I might think of the films. But it’s somewhat perverse when the guy with the more proven track record in these matters is penalized whereas the guy with the lesser one is excused away.
Finally on the footfalls.. where’s the data for this? And again why is this used selectively? What were the Ghajini footfalls like? The film did very well in small-town India. Secondly the gross often increases with many of these films because there are also more multiplexes around even in smaller places. Even though a film like Sultan does well everywhere it nonetheless gets to those big numbers helped by a mushrooming multiplex market in these other centers. The major metros are more or less saturated. The growth has come from those smaller markets in recent years. This is not like Gadar where vastly more people saw it than Lagaan, the gap was even wider than the numbers suggest. But Lagaan did well in the metros, was ok or less elsewhere whereas Gadar was fine everywhere but a real monster in those smaller centers that couldn’t register as much at the time. had Gadar had some of the same multiplexes then it would have been a much wider gap. But it wouldn’t necessarily have meant more footfalls. Now of course given enough time the footfalls do increase on average but again this argument cannot be used selectively. What’s all the gross discussion about if one is suddenly going to talk about footfalls one day for selective films? THIS sort of thing is what the debate has always been about from my side. There’s no consistency to how these criteria are applied. It’s like pulling rabbits out of a hat to keep explaining away something. So yeah let’s do footfalls, let’s do that for every film. Let’s forget the gross.
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July 10, 2016 at 9:39 AM
Even Aamirs movies will be affected by screen count if there is a release in weeks after that. I think PK was on course for a much higher total but lost screens in Week 3 or 4 which curtailed its run…PK didn’t double its first week too. The first week was 182 and overall was 340. But it had very good trending considering its opening. BB fell short by a 20 crores of PK but faced competition earlier than PK. I don’t think BB was any less loved than PK. Infact BB marginally had higher footfalls than PK.
I don’t think Ghajini will be there in the top 20 footfalls…It was equally a monster in the metros too. Its footfalls was around 2.4 crores. and it didn’t double its week 1…Its week 1 was around 62 crores and it totally did 114.71 crs officially..Of course the first week was 8 days and not 7 days…But PK, BB etc were almost a crore higher than Ghajini and around 50 lacs higher than 3I. Though Ghajini was a huge blockbuster it didn’t have the trending of 3I but it doesn’t make it any lesser.
The greatest trender in Hollywood is My big Fat Greek wedding which hardly opened to 5 mn and ended up with more than 200mn..That can happen only in Hollywood which has unlimited screen space. In India if we have a movie opening at 1 cr, even with the best of trending it wont reach 20 crs and that too only if it retains some screens the week after it releases. If India has more screens than the number of movies it can accommodate then I am sure we will get the trending of 1980s and 1990s happening.
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July 10, 2016 at 11:22 AM
Ghajini definitely doubled it’s week 1 which was roughly 55 crores or so. the extended week number was 62 or whatever. But even going by the latter it almost doubled it. On PK yes and we mentioned it at the time. And yes 3I was a different deal than Ghajini and no one has said otherwise. It was more ‘liked’ by the multiplex audience. Now some genres are more dominant in one age, that’s a different debate, but there’s no doubt that most of the audience liked 3I more. Secondly there has to be minimal trending. A film doubling its week 1 number (it doesn’t have to be 3I!) is different from films doing 70% in week 1. D3 was historic for 7-10 days but then added relatively little after this. It should have done 350 or so if it had followed the trending of the first two films in the franchise. Actually more than this. The total is nothing to be sneezed but there’s no doubt that D3 wasn’t liked as much as D2 or Ghajini.
On the rest one could debate this more but notice the ‘formula’.. it is ALWAYS Aamir’s success that requires some sort of explanation that then ‘reduces’ his achievement whereas with SRK or Salman it’s the exact opposite. Yes let’s look at footfalls and ticket prices and the multiplex/single screen divide and competition (hey some of us have only been saying this for more than a decade) but let’s do this for EVERY film. Not just self-selected ones.
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July 9, 2016 at 4:17 PM
Just came back from Sultan. My first Salman movie since HAHK as I find seeing his movies a waste of time….
Like all sports movie, it is a bit predictable and clichéd, the central conflict might be weak but Boy o Boy, what an awesome movie this is…Thoroughly enjoyed it and there is not a single dull moment. I never thought I will live to say this but Salman Khan acts…He really has struck acting gold here..This is his Chakde moment…Anushka is wonderful. The best part of the movie is that it is understated in its emotions and one can easily connect with it due to the very Indian setting…The music is wonderful, Jag Ghoomeya is such a beautiful song. and the title song is mesmeric…specially the lines…”Khoon mein tera Mitti, Mitti mein tera khoon, upar amber neeche Dharti, beech mein tera Junoon” … and the way it has been used thrills you…
BO wise there will be no stopping this. This will easily coast to 400 crores and above…
One more thing, Dangal needs to be a very good movie to match this. Because however good Dangal will be, the novelty of the subject will be an issue it will need to overcome. And Sultan will not be an easy movie to measure up to.
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July 9, 2016 at 4:29 PM
Great to read this Krish. This is his CDI and as Salman said his ‘Rocky’. This won’t have any negative reviews IMO..just minor complaints here and there.
Btw, the lyrics are..”Upar Allah niche dharti Beech mein tera junoon” . So, the word ‘Allah’ has been replaced with ‘amber’ in some places in India? Just curious.
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July 9, 2016 at 4:31 PM
Not really…BJP hasn’t plunged to that depth yet…Its Allah only..my mistake…
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July 9, 2016 at 4:40 PM
I was just curious since the replacement made perfect sense as well and you typed in the full lines. Thanks.
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July 10, 2016 at 12:31 AM
Yeah I got the lyrics wrong
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July 9, 2016 at 5:21 PM
your views give me some hope.. i.e. if you haven’t normally seen a Salman film in the theater. Surprised you missed out on Bajrangi though.
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July 9, 2016 at 5:33 PM
Satyam, Baradwaj liking it very much and then Masand who gives 1-2 stars to Salman movies gave 3.5/5 eventually, you can figure out that this is something different!
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July 9, 2016 at 5:41 PM
Always respect Rangan’s opinion (can’t stand Masand) but for a number of years now I’ve not agreed with him very often when it comes to Bollywood. His pieces are always fantastic but his perspective on what Bollywood represents is very different from mine.
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July 10, 2016 at 12:43 AM
I wouldn’t have seen this one too had it not on my wifes insistence. Not that she is a fan but just wanted to see some movie. Bhajrangi I had caught on TV…Had liked it too…
On this one, like all sports movie there is a bit of predictability but what keeps it going are the tender moments between the leads. They have aced that…the wrestling and MMA scenes are also good but like in Chak De , you are invested in the characters due to what happens outside the sporting moments. This is a better movie than BB. And as BR stated the melodrama is beautifully understated. No loud emotions…That was good to see..
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July 10, 2016 at 2:24 AM
I must say I didn’t like Sultan at all. Liked Bajrangi a fair bit and compared to this I think it was Sholay. Even the first half was barely passable for me. Some of the fight moments I didn’t mind even if the second half went on interminably. The film does push the right buttons and it’s certainly constructed for a star at a box office peak but just not my thing. Went with a group of 6. Just one person liked it. When I was leaving the theater heard a guy say that it was a terrible film but would probably do ok. I’d be very surprised if this film maintained Bajrangi-like trending. Sure there was a cross-section clapping and cheering for it but that wasn’t everyone. It has enough support to sustain itself for a while but the test will come after 10 days or so.
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July 10, 2016 at 3:32 AM
Very surprised to read this. I think its little bit harsh. BB has more modern and Raju Hirani kind of screenplay whereas Sultan has old as mountains story and same treatment but has heart and punches in right places. It pushes the right buttons and for me its a winner in all respects. I still don’t doubt its beating PK!
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July 10, 2016 at 8:26 AM
think the elements were there to make a much better film than they did. Even among people who liked the film I wonder if anyone could watch it a second time. But yeah Bajrangi to my mind was vastly superior than this. I didn’t go crazy over Bajrangi but it was perfectly fine. Wasn’t bored anywhere in the film. In Sultan some portions were interesting here and there but overall couldn’t couldn’t wait to leave the theater! On that note I was surprised to see a screening in Times Square barely be half full (it was a 10:20 show). Bajrangi in the second week, and the very same show, at the very same theater was full. It might just be a one-off but I was surprised.
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July 10, 2016 at 11:31 AM
@On that note I was surprised to see a screening in Times Square barely be half full (it was a 10:20 show).”
Well overseas numbers are there for all to see. In fact U.S numbers will be at display on Box Office Mojo tomorrow and we can judge the reception from there.
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July 9, 2016 at 5:43 PM
Since ‘stardom’ is being compared across decades, I’d like to offer my own interpretation of stardom in a way that’s more in tune with the comparisons made here.
We’ve got:
a) Salman (at present) — a star who can create a huge opening on his own without any apparent trouble
b) Aamir — a suave actor-star whose films have a long standing tradition of positive WOM
c) Akshay Kumar — A star who’s not capable of giving the highest opening but one who releases 3-4 films in any given year, which is unusual in present day Bollywood, and takes them to relatively good box office outcomes.
Amitabh, at his peak, was Salman+Aamir+Akshay combined…only better! He was a much better actor than Aamir (who I think is very good on his day), used to generate mass hysteria of the kind that can be imagined by looking at Salman’s openings, and used to release 3-4 films every year! At one point he had 4-5 superhit films running in theaters concurrently! There’s hype and there’s the real deal — Amitabh Bachchan was the only deal going by current yardsticks.
In fact, stars of yesteryears, be it Rajesh Khanna (another true-blue superstar) or Dharmendra had multiple releases every year and at some point of time competed with themselves!
Yes, I realize times are different — but the fundamentals never change. In fact, Amitabh’s example is replicated — albeit by breaking it down — by 3 stars. It takes 3 current day superstars to emulate the phenomenon that was Amitabh, and even then it’s only a partial appraisal of his stardom.
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July 9, 2016 at 5:53 PM
Aamir though does give you the biggest initial possible for any given genre. Yes he doesn’t get Salman-like openings because he doesn’t do those genres all the time. It’s also true that Salman is more suited to make this his bread and butter film. Nonetheless Ghajini broke every kind of record when it opened. It’s safe to say that Aamir could have continued going down that path.
As far as I’m concerned though what Rajesh Khanna did for a few years and then what Bachchan did for many years and at an even greater magnitude is still unparalleled in any era before or since. I don’t even buy the ‘different era’ argument much. Yes of course there are great distinctions but this is always the case. Before Salman did what he’s been doing since Dabanng no one thought this was even possible. People felt SRK’s achievement was the limit of what could be done (had many arguments with folks over the years). Now Salman is considered the limit but were he more of an actor, more of a serious actor, he would also have had stronger narratives more often than not and then he would also have had truly record-breaking grossers (not just initials) more often than not. The other thing I always like to point out is that in Bachchan’s era everyone else was in a different universe. It’s not as if every other star was getting that sort of success! Today Salman is the only guy doing that sort of mass thing with every film. But otherwise in terms of both initials and grosses many films get it done and even as we speak PK is still the biggest grosser despite not starting out this way and not trending like 3I. Before this there was the 3I benchmark for years. Before that Ghajini. But even some of the big SRK films have opened very strongly in the initial run (even if he needs a circus these days to get this going). The point is that Salman’s consistency is remarkable but no one else is really doing that genre and even then his numbers don’t necessarily eclipse everyone else’s. In Bachchan’s age every star more or less did the same dominant genre.
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July 9, 2016 at 6:19 PM
Agreed on Rajesh Khanna…people who discuss Box Office these days have no idea of how big a phenomenon he was.
Regarding Aamir, I agree that he guarantees an initial, irrespective of genre, and he’s also quite good in selecting the right scripts. He’s anyway my pick, easily, among big name stars from the current lot. In fact, I’d call myself a fan.
I haven’t watched a Salman film since Dabangg (enjoyed it quite a lot) and I have little interest in his films. Give me an Udta Punjab kind of film any day. I’d be willing to watch it a third time instead of spending time on Sultan. My problem (!) with mainstream hindi cinema is that I can’t tolerate mediocrity anymore. I didn’t like 3 Idiots for that matter. Quite liked PK though. Wasn’t happy with Dhoom 3 either but loved Talaash. In essence, there are very few mainstream hindi films that truly excite me, or to be more precise, elicit a response from me.
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July 10, 2016 at 2:41 AM
Have to agree with Saket in a big way. Give me an Udta Punjab sort of filmand day. I absolutely loved the film and would be happy to watch it again. It was a perfect mixture of mainstream+ art+ documentary feel.
I feel that Kabir Khan has contributed to Salman’s revival. Loved Ek Tha a Tiger (and liked both Salman and Katrina in it); loved Bajrangi Bhaijaan — my husband and I laughed (my spouse, aloud) while watching it on a plane trip some five months back. Loved Kabir’s Kabul Express, his early pre-Salman film.
I am fine with 3 Idiots; loved the Zoobi Doobi song, the way it was picturized. Aamir was hilarious, in the song’s audio scene bits. And Aamir- Kareena had great chemistry; in Talaash too,another niche film I love. PK was ok, had a good theme, could have been better.
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July 10, 2016 at 12:16 AM
‘@Amitabh, at his peak, was Salman+Aamir+Akshay combined…only better! He was a much better actor than Aamir (who I think is very good on his day), used to generate mass hysteria of the kind that can be imagined by looking at Salman’s openings, and used to release 3-4 films every year! At one point he had 4-5 superhit films running in theaters concurrently! There’s hype and there’s the real deal — Amitabh Bachchan was the only deal going by current yardsticks.”
This is the most concise and probably the best ‘write-up’
(not defense since his unique place is unmatched and needs no account) on Bachchan phenomenon !
On that note enjoy the two tweets of Rishi Kapoor -.
I, ME, MYSELF! @chintskap Jul 7
Time and again I have supported Manmohan Desai’s films. Here’s another instance. Sometimes life is illogical too!
I, ME, MYSELF! @chintskap Jun 16
Please read this all Manmohan Desai detractors. This happens in real life too!🎭
@chintskap it’s not only in AAA miracle happened It happened in Indian Military Soldier lost memory in accident regains in another accident
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July 9, 2016 at 5:49 PM
Sultan’s ‘fictitious’ background from his school, locality etc.
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July 10, 2016 at 12:03 AM
Girish Johar @girishjohar 8h8 hours ago
Data pouring in, seems Box office is about to explode… can #Sultan day 4 be the highest any sinlge day in the history @BeingSalmanKhan 👍👍👍
PJ @Prakashjaaju 13m13 minutes ago Mhow, India
Almost full from early morning.
PJ @Prakashjaaju 6m6 minutes ago Mhow, India
So #SULTAN will become first film to collect 200 Cr in First Week in India.
Joginder Tuteja @Tutejajoginder 1h1 hour ago
#Sultan Wed-Fri it was Salman superpower. From Sat, it has the lethal combo of content going in its favor too. That’s making the difference!
KRK @kamaalrkhan 2h2 hours ago
#Sultan is having historical advance booking today so day5 collections can be 40Cr+ n it will be a first film ever which will do 40+ on day5
addatoday.com @addatoday 9h9 hours ago
#Sultan is set for Magic on Sunday at Box Office. Advance Booking is Unprecedented. http://www.addatoday.com/2016/07/sultan-set-for-magic-on-sunday-5th-day.html … @BeingSalmanKhan @AnushkaSharma
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July 10, 2016 at 3:48 AM
Sultan Has Extraordinary Saturday
Saturday 10 July 2017 12.30 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
Sultan had a phenomenal Saturday with business of around 36.50 crore nett which takes the four day total to around 142 crore nett and if the advances for Sunday are counted the 150 crore nett barrier had already been breached by the end of business on Saturday.
The film just ran riot on Saturday especially in North India with Delhi / UP flirting with all time record collections and East Punjab growing a humongous 30% plus from high levels on Friday. It is very difficult for a commercial masala film coming on a such a wide release to grow on Saturday if its day two but here there is growth in the 20% region despite it being day four.
The Eid benefit is normally there for three days in the Muslim centres and that will have ended yesterday but it is Sunday now and normally for this type of film you would assume that Sunday will show more growth than Saturday so possibly history is about to be created with the first 40 crore nett plus day and highest single day in history.
Obviously it is not certain that Sunday will show more growth than Saturday because eventually the Sunday is day five and Muslim centres are getting back to normal but with the sort of Saturday the film has had even 10% growth will mean an extraordinary Sunday.
Basically the film is going to do similar to what Bajrangi Bhaijaan (184 cr) did in a week in five days. It could go a little higher or little lower depending on Sunday but the range is around Bajrangi Bhaijaan seven days in five days.
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July 10, 2016 at 4:03 AM
Please rewrite all articles to include advances!
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July 10, 2016 at 8:26 AM
ha!
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July 10, 2016 at 4:13 AM
http://www.boxofficeindia.com/art_detail.php?articalid=2145#.V4IBWvl97IU
Sultan Creates Havoc On Saturday
Saturday 09 July 2016 22.30 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
Sultan has created havov across India on day four with collections that are just unbelievable. It will only be known exactly in the morning but it seems possible that not only has the fillm seen the highest daily collection of its run but possible the highest single day in the history of Hindi cinema. This has happenned on the fourth day of the film and that too after three huge days. There is the Eid affect in muslim centres which last for three days so today will be last but simply put the collections are crazy.
An early estimate for the collections on Saturday are around 38-39 crore nett though as has been the case over the past few days it will be no surprise if the film goes over the 39.32 crore all time single day record of Prem Ratan Dhan Payo. This is because there is difference of behavior in circuits due to Eid and what is being estimating has a bigger margin of error than normal. the total of the film in four days will be close to 145 crore nett.
It is just a shocker to see a film rise like this despite the holiday period in most places finished and another huge rise may well mean the sort of word of mouth that has not been seen probably in the last 15 years and the film could go anywhere.
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July 10, 2016 at 4:43 AM
More than boxoffice figures, there is more madness in getting all the right words to describe apocalypse. Havoc, shocker, extraordinary etc. etc. I will supply some more.
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Some are already used by them.
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July 10, 2016 at 5:04 AM
I think it is a forgone conclusion now that the movie is going to do tremendous business.
As for the Aamir v Salman debate, I think that the pattern during the last 5-6 years have been that Aamir has regularly come up with record breaking grossers and Salman has been getting 2 or 2 huge grossers in between that have come close to these record grossers.
So, Aamir has been setting the standards while Salman has been coming very close regularly and with occasionally more volume of releases.
Between PK and Dangal, Salman has already had 3 releases. BB was close to matching PK’s total, PRDP was a 200cr grosser and now Sultan is threatening to outgross everything.
That’s 3 huge grossers within one year period. Aamir on the other hand, has a 2 years gap between PK and Dangal.
I think it is going to be quite an easy conclusion this time around. If Dangal beats Sultan’s collections then Aamirs reigns supreme, having the biggest grosser under the belt.
But if it doesn’t, then Salman is easily the undisputed No.1. Because after a gap of 2 years, there is no margin of error for Aamir. The occasional lack of volume of releases is the only issue with Aamir. One quality film a year surely is not asking too much from him.
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July 10, 2016 at 5:18 AM
One quality film he will surely give. But BO results is not a measure of quality film. I will take his own films.Talaash and PK. PK was crowdpleasing and Talaash was not. 3 Idiots and RDB.
RH and Sarfarosh.
As for Salman, he was already number one even before Sultan.
And he had more 100 crore films in his kitty. He is far ahead in the race even if Dangal does good business. I feel Dangal may do 100 to 150 at the most if it is allowed to release without bans and boycotts.
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July 10, 2016 at 5:30 AM
I dont understand why should give he every year one movie or two movies in the same year. It is his working style that he opted and adopted.
Some can manage even six kids. Some can manage only two kids.
All these arguments are forwarded to make him look like an odd sheep. Each to his own.
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July 10, 2016 at 5:31 AM
why should he give
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July 10, 2016 at 5:56 AM
I do actually feel that Dangal can do very well. I have faith in Aamir’s script sense and I don’t think he is going to devote 2 years to a project that will not get universal appreciation.
Asking one quality film a year is reasonable from any cinema lover. I would be glad to see more films from him. 2 years is a too long wait. Remember Ghajini and 3 Idiots or Lagaan and DCH releasing within months. It’s better than 2 years gaps and it did not hurt the quality of the movies.
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July 10, 2016 at 6:24 AM
But one should get worthwhile scripts too.
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July 10, 2016 at 8:52 AM
Dangal isn’t the Sultan kind of production. It’s a much smaller deal. One simply can’t have the same standard for both. A strong script could trend very well and still put up huge numbers and perhaps it surprises and does a massive amount. But that can’t be the standard. It’s a proper commercial film but it’s not the kind of deal that is instantly in the race for biggest opener or grosser. Some of the novelty value has also been lost. Good WOM can overcome some of this but it’s still hard to put a number to what the loss of that novelty value means.
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July 10, 2016 at 8:59 AM
I am not so sure of that. I think Dangal is also aiming to be a huge opener. It is a proper commercial movie and even the first poster suggested the same thing. Additionally they are also releasing in Christmas and I am sure it wont be less than 5000 screens…
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July 10, 2016 at 9:01 AM
I’m sure it will have the screens..
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July 10, 2016 at 9:40 AM
Dangal is like CDI or TZP on a bigger scale but how do you compare it to a typical masala film Sultan ?
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July 10, 2016 at 9:48 AM
and i don’t believe Dangal is aiming to be a huge opener cause Aamir could’ve had his young look on the poster to bulit some hype but he didn’t . Aamir clearly said he wants to remain true to the film and the film is about father and his 4 daughters and the role of the young Aamir is not more than 10 -15% . Does that sound as commerical as Sultan to you ?
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July 10, 2016 at 9:55 AM
No film on scale of CDI or TZP will release on 5000 screens. For example Fan released on 2500 screens, almost half of what Sultan did. I am sure Dangal is not going to do that. We will know when we see the trailor but from what I know its a proper commercial movie with masala moments and humour…
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July 10, 2016 at 11:22 AM
Dangal isn’t CDI/TZP by any means but it isn’t Sultan either. For that matter Fan wasn’t TZP/CDI, it was more ‘significant’ than that.
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July 10, 2016 at 10:03 AM
Fan was released on 3500 screens in India same as PK and D3 http://indianexpress.com/article/entertainment/bollywood/fan-box-office-collections-shah-rukh-khan-movie-great-start-2755019/ Sultan was released on 4300 screens dont know how Dangal would release on 5000 ? don’t even think we have 5000 screens .
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July 10, 2016 at 10:12 AM
Screens can extrapolate
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July 10, 2016 at 10:19 AM
Yes but i doubt it will be 5000 screens but we will see .
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July 10, 2016 at 10:33 AM
I do think Dangal will be quite commercial as Aamir has suggested the director gives him the Hirani impression. But it’s not like Hirani films open massively, they trend well which is what I’d expect here.
The way Sultan is going, dangal will find it tough to match the opening week but I’d never rule Aamir out from pulling something special over a few weeks to overturn any record total that sultan is set to make.
The fear for dangal would have to be the novelty. Aamir’s been quite gracious on sultan so far so I think he’s confident rather than worried.
I also don’t think it’s much to ask to do one film a year…I’m quite shocked how Aamir has now done 3 physically demanding roles like ghajini, d3 & dangal. Even 3 idiots required some physical changes. He’s better off picking less physically demanding scripts in future to help trim the turnaround time on his films.
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July 10, 2016 at 10:44 AM
It might though be a less massy film, lagaan like more for multiplexes.
As much as sultan has had first mover advantage, dangal and Aamir have second mover advantage & 6 months to work on dangal too.
I will always bet on a better film from Aamir, but it might not be the case that it can beat sultan as the latter seems to on a huge run.
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July 10, 2016 at 10:29 AM
Sultan releasing one month after Fan released in 1500 more screens than Fan. There was a reason why Fan didn’t release on maximum screen count as it was not meant for all centres. That 3500 screen
Even if it is not 5000, Dangal will be closer to 4500 atleast considering Sultan is on 4200 + screens.
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July 10, 2016 at 10:34 AM
Fan was 3500 screens http://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cm_OMAvWYAA1nOd.jpg the difference between Fan and Sultan were around 700 screens which i feel is not a lot given the kind of film Fan was .
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July 10, 2016 at 10:44 AM
Dangal will be commerical but its no Ghajini or D3 . Dangal is more of a multiplex film and would be dependent on word of mouth. If WOM works it will do well if it doesn’t it wont simple as that .
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July 10, 2016 at 3:43 PM
FYI, during Talaash, Aamir was asked why isn’t he releasing Talaash in Christmas and instead releasing in November. He said its different kind of film and not aimed at full family entertainer and i don’t want it to burden with my other big hits during Christmas. If he has that mindset and then releasing Dangal on Christmas shows that he believes that Dangal will do very well at the boxoffice. My 2 cents!
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July 10, 2016 at 3:58 PM
I’m sure it will do well. But that’s different from calling it a commercial super production! Which is what Sultan or D3 or films like that are.
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July 10, 2016 at 4:11 PM
The template here might be lagaan itself, which is hardly blockbuster stuff.
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July 10, 2016 at 4:33 PM
And its not easy to match Lagaan .To be honest i don’t even know how it survived the Gadar onslaught !
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July 11, 2016 at 12:56 AM
I think this is a more of a case of people hoping it is not commercial and hatke. Well, being commercial is not exactly a bad thing guys 🙂
I hope you remember that one of the reasons Talaash didn’t release over holiday weekend was because it was too niche for that weekend. No such thoughts are existing for Dangal. This is a Walt Disney Productions who will pump in the best promotions for it. You can also see that by the fact that the posters are out a good 6 months before. Its a solo Christmas release with Pritam as the music director – a proper commercial music director.
In all probability it will have 2 halves one where Aamir is playing the wrestler and second where we encourages his kids to do the same and how they get those gold medals in real life. Aamir himself told it is a script laden with humour. Mark my words it will have enough ‘seeti’ moments in it. At best I will compare it to Chak De India which was more of a songless affair and was more low key in promotions. But even if Chak de was releasing in todays times, it will be doing 200 cr +. Dangal will be bigger and more glitzy….
Well, ofcourse I might be wrong and it is a very niche movie then it that case it wont release in 4000 screens. Lets wait for the trailor
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July 10, 2016 at 5:33 AM
Sultan had a phenomenal Saturday with business of around 36.50 crore nett which takes the four day total to around 142 crore nett and if the advances for Sunday are counted the 150 crore nett barrier had already been breached by the end of business on Saturday.
The film just ran riot on Saturday especially in North India with Delhi / UP flirting with all time record collections and East Punjab growing a humongous 30% plus from high levels on Friday. It is very difficult for a commercial masala film coming on a such a wide release to grow on Saturday if its day two but here there is growth in the 20% region despite it being day four.
The Eid benefit is normally there for three days in the Muslim centres and that will have ended yesterday but it is Sunday now and normally for this type of film you would assume that Sunday will show more growth than Saturday so possibly history is about to be created with the first 40 crore nett plus day and highest single day in history.
Obviously it is not certain that Sunday will show more growth than Saturday because eventually the Sunday is day five and Muslim centres are getting back to normal but with the sort of Saturday the film has had even 10% growth will mean an extraordinary Sunday.
Basically the film is going to do similar to what Bajrangi Bhaijaan (184 cr) did in a week in five days. It could go a little higher or little lower depending on Sunday but the range is around Bajrangi Bhaijaan seven days in five days.
Boxofficeindia.com
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July 10, 2016 at 11:10 AM
addatoday.com @addatoday 1h1 hour ago
#Sultan 5th Day (Sunday) Collection Early Trends. Set to Create HISTORY Today! Housefull Everywhere! Unstoppable!
Girish Johar @girishjohar 4h4 hours ago
Thank u @BeingSalmanKhan for keeping my word 😚 was laughed at wen i said 150crs in 5 dys…aapne toh lagbhag 4 hi days mein kar diya #Sultan
Shekhar RavjianiVerified account @ShekharRavjiani 5h5 hours ago
What an honor to be a part of this beautiful film. #Sultan Thank you @aliabbaszafar @yrf #adityachopra and @BeingSalmanKhan for your love.
VISHAL DADLANIVerified account @VishalDadlani 5h5 hours ago
Also, props to @aliabbaszafar & Julius Packiam for the way that our songs, especially #Sultan title & Rise of Sultan are used in the score!
taran adarshVerified account @taran_adarsh 7h7 hours ago
#Sultan is UNSTOPPABLE… Setting new BENCHMARKS… Wed 36.54 cr, Thu 37.32 cr, Fri 31.66 cr, Sat 37.10 cr. Total: ₹ 142.62 cr. India biz.
Komal Nahta @KomalNahta 7h7 hours ago
#Sultan day 4: 37.10 crore. Total: 142.62 crore. Outstanding!!!!
sabina lamba @SabinaLamba 1h1 hour ago
#Sultan earns Rs150million in Pakistan n 5Days setting new RECORD!Salman Khan’s invincible dominance
ali abbas zafar @aliabbaszafar 5h5 hours ago
Sultan in cinema hall @BeingSalmanKhan @AnushkaSharma let’s go and collect that money 😜https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cm_0Ad4WAAAT5jx.jpg
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July 10, 2016 at 11:11 AM
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July 10, 2016 at 1:02 PM
I personally think it may just about make it past PK. Maybe a 230-240cr first week (9 days total). It may then probably gross an additional 100cr.
BOI have PK at 330cr and BB at 315cr lifetime. Both are looking like realistic targets for Sultan now. But still looks like a tall order in both cases.
However it is going to cruise past D3. That’s very obvious.
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July 10, 2016 at 1:26 PM
PK is 337 cr as per BoI.
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July 10, 2016 at 9:41 PM
Another Huge Day For Sultan On Sunday
Sunday 10 July 2017 23.30 IST
Sultan continued its phenomenal run on Sunday with another huge day with collections set to be around 39-40 crore nett and taking its extended five day weekend total to around 182 crore nett. This is averaging out to be around 36.5 crore nett a day over five days which in just incredible. The film has maintained over 35 crore nett for four of the five days in its run so far.
The way to put this into perspective is that only one film prior to Sultan had opened to more than 36.50 crore nett and this has averaged that much over five days. The growth on Sunday has come mainly from the areas that did not jump on Saturday. The very high level of collection on Saturday made huge Sunday growth hard.
The business of the film is fantastic all over and what is exceptional is the business in West Bengal, Mysore and Tamil Nadu Kerala which are the weakest for Salman Khan starrers but here all three have put up excellent numbers with the latter crossing Bajrangi Bhaijaan lifetime in five days.
The business on Sunday may turn out to be the highest single day ever and the first 40 crore nett breach in a day. It would be another huge achievement if day five is setting ALL TIME RECORDS.
http://www.boxofficeindia.com/art_detail.php?articalid=2147#.V4L5ErgrKM9
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July 10, 2016 at 9:56 PM
Incredible!! Some folks are still hoping it will fall from monday! 🙂
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July 11, 2016 at 6:13 AM
did anyone here talk about a Mon drop? Might have missed that comment…
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July 11, 2016 at 12:25 AM
Saw Sultan last evening and was bowled over.
Salman Khan rocks. This is a superfresh family entertainer and India’s own Rocky. I wish Salman has done this earlier and would have made this a series.
5/5
All time Block Buster
Message to those who are predicting downfall :
KHOON MEIN TERE MITTI
MITTI MEIN TERA KHOON
UPAR SATYAM NEECHE JAYSHAH
BEECH MEIN TERA JUNNON
BREAK HUA RECORD 😀
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July 11, 2016 at 6:12 AM
yes with Sultan’s performance Salman might finally be in Akshay’s league..
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July 11, 2016 at 10:43 AM
Both of you are becoming repetitive now. Try something new dear.
Atleast i am honest. Jayshah is plain hypocrite and has disappeared now. You are here and facing the heat so that’s a change.
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July 11, 2016 at 10:54 AM
I’m still here & quite happy to see Sultan doing well. And quite frankly it should easily be the top grosser ever now.
“At least I am honest” – what a pile of rubbish. Honesty is in accepting that even if Akshay does 3 films – his totals don’t reach to those of Salman / Aamir. And barring the last couple of years, his filmography is made up of mainly poor films with the odd cracker like Mohra/Hera Pheri.
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July 11, 2016 at 12:58 AM
It is true I almost slept through the second half of Sultan and overall the film left me cold. But funnily enough there isn’t anything specifically negative in the film that I can point out.
I read somewhere a review which asks the question,”Why doesn’t Aarfa try to win the Olympic medal instead of teaching wrestling to children?” How naïve! People who buy this have no idea what losing a baby means to a mother. She is grieving deeply and dos not have the motivation to aim for something as demanding as the Olympics. If it was as simple as that she could have had an abortion and prepare for the Olympics. She didn’t even consider that option.
No you cannot fault the psychological motivation of the principal characters leading to crucial actions in the film. In fact some of them are written and performed with a lot of subtlety. Take the whole sequence leading to Aarfa losing her baby and her turning Sultan away. When he is planning to take part in the World Wrestling Championship, she does not explicitly stop him. But she wants to show her some consideration. After all she did not bat an eyelid or show any signs of regret while giving up her Olympics dreams for the sake of their baby. It is just a chance that the baby had a blood type of O negative and he needed it. It adds to her resentment against him and the guilt that Sultan feels about the whole episode. Mind you, even now she does not blame him. She just says she cannot help feel a wall between them now. The writing here is first class. The melodrama is toned down by Aarfa’s semi-sarcastic monologue: “Like you he had the O negative blood type. Like you he was rare. But he was not strong like you. He needed a little more blood in his body..etc etc.” This one really brought tears to my eyes.
In fact the writing was consistently witty, with a lightness of touch. After Sultan has chased the four akhada boys down as a test of his fitness, instead of heavy praise, you get the line, “Today I am convinced man indeed evolved from the monkey”. There are some hilarious one-liners too, none more explosive than “ Angrezi mein bataate hain. Don’t teach your father how to make babies.” The line has half the hall in splits because the young among them know the more authentic version: Don’t teach your father how to f***.
The other positive of the film were the songs. On seeing the trailer, I had made up mind to stay away from the film mainly because of the two songs ‘ Baby Ko Bass Pasand Hai’ and ‘ 44 Volt’. But I ended up enjoying Baby Ko Bass Pasand Hai hugely. It was set up nicely with Aarfa asking the sound guy to add some more bass. And then both Salman and Anuska rocked the floor with their energetic and playful dance moves. The ‘440 Volt’ song was placed more intrusively. But fortunately they cut to scenes of Sultan preparing for the wrestling match during most of the stanzas. “ Jag Ghumeya’ was of course a beauty by Vishal-Sekhar and was used very aptly.
Which bring s me to strongest positive of the film – the performances. It was an excellent supporting cast – Aaarfa’s father, Sultans friend Govinda, the organizer of the MMA tournament, etc. Anushka is among our most consummate actresses at the moment. And if it is a north Indian character she is playing she can nail it perfection. Even though she looks a tad skinny for a Haryanvi wrestler, she takes your mind off the fact with her superlative performance. Salman Khan needs to be applauded for the way he has played Sultan Ali Khan. In his portrayal Sultan is an organic whole, and not just sum of a few good scenes. He stays in character throughout, making every action pf his appear spontaneous and credible. His Haryanvi accent? How authentic it is? Frankly I don’t care. Not only here, but in any film. If the actor can carry off the lines and manage to make it appear natural that is what I care about. And Salman does that. He had already shown how well he can play a golden-hearted son of the soil in Bajarangi Bhaijaan. What he adds to that here is a touch of gravitas and maturity. He brings out the psychological condition of Sultan after they had lost their baby is spot on. There is grief, there is guilt, and there is a man who has lost a lot in his life. His body language and slow speech reflects this loser to perfection. He does not shed this lumbering slowness even when he starts preparing for the MMA tournament. He is seeking redemption. But what is lost is lost, never to be got back. This feeling of loss will remain with him even after he has won the MMA tournament, raised money for the blood bank, got back Aarfa and even has had one more child. The old exuberance can never come back. Salman does this brilliantly. Then there is the sheer physicality demanded of the role. Stripping down to one’s langot and to move across the screen without a trace of self-consciousness is not as easy it sounds. Everyone has mentioned the scene where he examines his flabby paunch and despairs; and that’s very well done indeed. But even in the other scenes where he has to reveal his body, including the fight scenes, he is efffortle3ss. No one but Salman could do this part as convincingly.
(So as I said I have hardly anything negative to say about the film and so many positives to dwell on. In spite of that the second half of the films was totally unengaging for me. And the whole storytelling kind of left me cold. On the other hand, there have been films with obvious script inconsistencies and other negative, and yet have gripped me with something powerful at the core. That’s the way it goes.)
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July 11, 2016 at 9:18 AM
This is a great read Utkal and you have nicely brought out the positives and the special efforts in writing that they have accomplished.
In the middle there were junctures where I had my own issues in terms of reasoning / rationale but the climax more than made up for all that and I came out of theater smiling. For me the best part of the movie was when during the final fight after having being knocked down completely, Sultan gathers strength from his basics / native instincts and they show Sultan’s rusty / dusty wrestling image of his ‘akhaada years’ parallel to MMA fight. That was a good example of integrating the modern world to our traditional roots.
On scripting anxieties, there is a nice interview of Ali Abbas and towards the middle of conversation he tells what Salim Khan counseled , siting Sholay as an example for plot error / inconsistencies….
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July 11, 2016 at 11:56 AM
Utkal this may answer few of the critical points about film and Salman as an actor. Ali has countered it superbly. Ali seems to have superb knowledge about commercial aspects of mainstream film.
Anupama Chopra @anupamachopra 7h7 hours ago
On #Sultan, @aliabbaszafar says it’s @BeingSalmanKhan and emotions that trump in the end
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July 11, 2016 at 12:01 PM
Salman needs to thank Katrina for introducing two good directors ( Kabir and Ali Zafar ) to him and move out of comfort zone and increase his multiplex reach. Both were very close to Kat and directed their first mainstream movie with her.
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July 11, 2016 at 2:14 AM
Sultan Has An Unbelievable Extended Weekend
Monday 11 July 2016 11.00 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
Sultan has had an unbelievable extended five day weekend grossing around 181.50 crore apprx nett in five days. These figures are similar to what Bajrangi Bhaijaan and PK did in seven days. The film just shattered almost every record in the book. There was a dip on Friday which was a working day but the film went up to the Eid levels again on Saturday and Sunday. An early estimate for Sunday is 39 crore nett apprx.
The figures were record breaking all over with every circuit doing fantastic business. The North Indian touch in the film has meant that North is extraordinary but places where it may have found it harder like Mysore and West Bengal are also huge with the former hitting 11.50 crore nett in five days.
The weekend business has ensured the film is a BLOCKBUSTER and it remains to be seen where Monday lands up. The film does not have the benefit of weekday holidays like a Bajrangi Bhaijaan or PK which allowed ticket rates for those films to stay at weekend levels so it will harder to set weekday records but what is certain is that film will become the first film to cross 200 crore nett in a week, another major record added to the list.
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July 11, 2016 at 2:24 AM
I do still think that PK and BB’s totals are going to be quite hard to attain. Maybe once the initial euphoria is over, the collections and trending are going to be more ‘normal’. If I were a betting man, I would bet on a 300cr total for Sultan.
Whatever the final total, I don’t think anyone in Bollywood can deliver over 800cr in terms of returns within a year. This is what Salman has delivered with BB, PRDP and Sultan,
There are over 800cr of net collections in there in less than 12 months. This is unheard of and I don’t think anyone can match that right now.
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July 11, 2016 at 2:54 AM
During a recent promotional event for their upcoming film, Dishoom, Varun Dhawan decided to lift John Abraham, who weighs around 95 kg. Seeing him successfully pull it off, co-star Jacqueline Fernandez, too, decided to give it a go.
The actress attempted to lift Johnny boy, but wasn’t successful. The next day, Jacqueline realised that she couldn’t move her back and suspected a slipped disc.
A visit to the doctor clarified that she had just strained her back and luckily, it wasn’t something major that needed severe medical attention.
http://www.mid-day.com/articles/jacqueline-fernandezs-stunt-to-lift-john-abraham-back-fires/17419193
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July 11, 2016 at 6:58 AM
I am not able to understand why Boi does not simply give crisp figures and simply say very good instead of going gaga like a fond grandmother? By seeing the figures, we can understand how big a hit a particular film is.
And also its tendency to write off certain movies just looking at the title of a film, at the starcast, at the genre.
What drives them to give silly commentaries like pro?
Every portal wants to outdo the other to get fans to their sites.
What about others who want to find only boxoffice figures without going through all this froth?
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July 11, 2016 at 7:07 AM
If I am not mistaken, Sultan is running like Chennai Express and YJHD but on a bigger scale. Today will be around 20 or more in that case.
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July 11, 2016 at 7:18 AM
http://www.hindustantimes.com/tv/ghostbuster-gaurav-tiwari-found-dead-father-hints-at-negative-forces/story-Jp50LfYFnPFmoUj3MuGhbK.html
Ghostbuster Gaurav Tiwari found dead. Father hints at ‘negative forces’
Indian Paranormal Society founder and CEO Gaurav Tiwari was found dead in his Dwarka home on Thursday, July 7. The police is still conducting investigations and has not established a firm cause of death yet.
Read: Paranormal investigations a fast-growing hobby
Tiwari, who had multiple TV shows to his credit, was found lying on his bathroom floor with a thin black line across his neck. The police say that the cause of death was asphyxia, reports The Times of India.
Tiwari was part of TV shows like Haunted Weekends with Sunny Leone and MTV’s Girl’s Night Out with VJ Ranvijay, Bhoot Aaya and Fear Files. He was also a part of movies 16 December and Tango Charlie.
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July 11, 2016 at 8:10 AM
sabina lamba @SabinaLamba 2h2 hours ago
#Sultan -Delhi/NCR Is Super strong Today – Monday ! Many evening shows Houseful.
Faridoon Shahryar @iFaridoon 4h4 hours ago
The way #Sultan is trending it may cross 300 crore nett India by the next weekend,it looks practically set to cross #PK record!!
Faridoon Shahryar @iFaridoon 4h4 hours ago
New benchmarks are meant to be set…it is too early to say but the way #Sultan is being loved,400 crore India nett is a possibility…
BombayTimesVerified account @bombaytimes 4h4 hours ago
Wonder if it is because of @AnushkaSharma or @BeingSalmanKhan , @RanveerOfficial surprised us with his act! #Sultan
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July 11, 2016 at 9:03 AM
Movie continues to be super strong in North today. Expect a number between 20 and 25 crs based on North India. But if others don’t rise as much in evening, a little below 20 crs.
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July 11, 2016 at 9:37 AM
KRK @KamaalrKhan
Today also #Sultan is rocking at box office means my business rating is going to be 100% wrong so congratulations to @BeingSalmanKhan @yrf
Film #Sultan’s business has confirmed that @BeingSalmanKhan is as big super star in Bollywood as big Rajnikanth in Tollywood.
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July 11, 2016 at 10:35 AM
yeah he thought it would do 200-230 which is odd given that even a film that completely fizzled out like Prem rattan.. also did 200 or whatever. He is saying that single screens are at 50% today while multiplexes are at 90%. Obviously it can put up the biggest numbers if the latter keep holding up.
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July 11, 2016 at 11:00 AM
Can’t imagine plexes holding up to 90%.
I saw some site suggesting today/Monday is looking like 25 crore which will be amazing.
The thing with salman movies is everybody who wants to see it will see it in first few days. They’re not going to wait and see how the film report is, etc… It’s like an event.
There’s no doubt that this movie is liked/loved by many, otherwise the collection doesn’t stay at this level for more than a day or two.
I think the 2nd weekend drop will be big.
Would have loved to see this film release during christmas/new year time when there’s like a 10 day festive mood.
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July 11, 2016 at 11:00 AM
Today is key still – reckon it needs to be at least 20cr minimum to stand strong chances of overhauling P.K – obviously needs to milk it as much as possible by the time it loses screen space in week 2 & 3.
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July 11, 2016 at 11:10 AM
There is audience for movies like Masti, it will definitely take away audience in 2nd weekend.
That’s where having 2 to 3 weeks clean run helps.
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July 11, 2016 at 12:14 PM
agreed..
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July 11, 2016 at 11:11 AM
He is saying that single screens are at 50% today while multiplexes are at 90%. Obviously it can put up the biggest numbers if the latter keep holding up.
He said that yesterday . Multiplexes cant be 90% today its a working day .
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July 11, 2016 at 11:15 AM
Agree, plexes are more like 50% range today
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July 11, 2016 at 11:24 AM
“He is saying that single screens are at 50% today while multiplexes are at 90%”
You are mixing that. That was his tweet early monday morning and more of ‘hope’ and by the end of the day he accepted he’s wrong and posted the above tweet saying he is 100% wrong.
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July 11, 2016 at 11:29 AM
No he tweeted that on Sunday evening/night . Earlier this morning he tweeted this ‘ kamaalrkhan @ DM FAV RT ? 11 hours ago
If today #Sultan will be able to collect approx 10Cr then my business rating will be correct if more, then wrong, so let’s wait till evening ‘ .
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July 11, 2016 at 11:32 AM
It was always going to cross 10 cr today so kinda odd why he tweeted that .
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July 11, 2016 at 12:03 PM
“It was always going to cross 10 cr today so kinda odd why he tweeted that .”
it’s KRK…
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July 11, 2016 at 10:58 AM
I wonder if Satyam will shut this site if Sallu breaks Aamir’s record. The whole taam zhaam is to build the air castle.
aside – Record will be broken. Sultan is better than PK. It will be the real ATBB and the the fake ones.
Salman is No 1. Kaan khol ke sun lo bhaiyon. Accept kar lo. Chain milega.
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July 11, 2016 at 12:14 PM
No the site survived Akshay’s incredible superstardom.. now that Salman is catching up with him I’m sure we’ll still be ok..
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July 11, 2016 at 12:19 PM
of course I always wonder why the SRK, Salman (and now evidently Akshay) fans (not to mention some others) are quite happy to rejoice in the success of a number of stars not called Aamir! I’ve long held the thesis that Aamir provokes an anxiety that the others don’t (in each others’ fans). Again what’s common is that whatever the debate Aamir is the excluded guy. His success is always accepted the most grudgingly and this has been the case for very long. Not that it matters one way or the other (his box office record would seem to prove this rather easily) but it’s amusing to see the same folks turn around and then accuse others of being biased. Once more whether I like a star or not I’m not in a war with the facts. Which is more than can be said for some of these other fans!
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July 11, 2016 at 12:32 PM
The gripe is odd as even someone like AR Rahman has trimmed his output in Hindi music, but no one would dare question what success he had.
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July 12, 2016 at 1:29 AM
You talk about Ghajini trending a lot on this forum..Talaash, D3 and even PK could not emulate the same..maybe time to accept that trending norms are changing or Aamir is not in the zone as he was
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July 12, 2016 at 2:52 AM
Yes and all those films have more or less been held to those standards.
Talaash was not too bad but clearly audience did not like it.
D3 was a huge under performer, felt this at the time. The script was interesting but the screenplay & action nowhere near as clean as D2.
PK clearly not Hirani’s best film…probably his style is getting stale. Ultimately film was saved by Aamir’s performance.
The difference for D3 & PK is they DID break all time records…no Salman film has despite multiple films breaking opening day, weekend, weekday records.
I’m only speaking for myself here.
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July 11, 2016 at 11:52 AM
addatoday.com @addatoday 1h1 hour ago
#Sultan 6th Day (Monday) Collection Early Trends. Passes Monday Test with Flying Colors. Rocking in Evening Shows
Zoom TVVerified account @ZoomTV 2h2 hours ago
#Sultan beats #EkThaTiger’s worldwide collection in just 5 days!
taran adarshVerified account @taran_adarsh 8h8 hours ago
taran adarsh Retweeted Bollywood Hungama
#Salmania has gripped the nation… #Sultan
RAJ BANSAL @rajbansal9 13h13 hours ago
All predictions are failing for #Sultan including mine. No one knows where this film is going. Its creating new BoxOffice records every day.
This last one brings so many memories and have watched so many movies at Paradise when it was Calcutta
rohit jaiswal @rohitjswl01 4h4 hours ago
#Sultan #ParadiseCinema HOUSEFULL MONDAY EVENING show… BRILLIANT.. @BeingSalmanKhan @SalmanManiaFC @SalmanUniv
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July 11, 2016 at 2:16 PM
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July 11, 2016 at 2:54 PM
It’s strictly professional though..
Karan Johar and Ekta Kapoor were among the producers present at Aamir Khan’s residence on Friday to discuss the issue of online leaks of new releases.
In particular, the issue of Great Grand Masti, being preponed from July 22 to July 15 due to online leaks, came up. With Sultan having a three-week contract with theatre chains all over India, theatre availability for GGM at such short notice, would be a matter of concern.
Says a source in the know, “Since Aditya Chopra was not present at the meeting, Aamir and the other bigwigs from film industry phoned Adi asking for theatres for Great Grand Masti. To his credit, Adi, who is known not to budge an inch to accommodate films of other producers, agreed to share theatres screening his Sultan with Great Grand Masti.”
Says the source. “This is a first for Adi. He realises the critical situation regarding piracy and online leaks, since Sultan was also leaked.” Well indeed this show that Mr. Perfectionist shares a great bond with the head honcho of Yash Raj Films. Also after the super success of Dhoom 3 we are eager to watch Dangal star working yet again with Aditya and YRF. What say Bollywoodlifers?
http://www.bollywoodlife.com/news-gossip/aamir-khan-mede-a-request-to-aditya-chopra-which-he-couldnt-refuse/
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July 11, 2016 at 3:26 PM
Sultan had a strong hold on Monday as it grossed an excellent 16 crore nett. The drop is around 50% from Friday which is a normal drop but the difference here is that it was not a normal weekend but a huge five day weekend where the film has already consumed around 180 crore nett business. So dropping 50% in this case is excellent.
The weekend smashed all records but on Monday the records have not come as the 20 crore nett plus Monday films have either been on holiday or kept on weekend ticket rates and here none of these apply. The major chains have seen a 25-30% drop in tickets rates as they were inflated a little for the five day weekend.
The film will become the first film in history to cross 200 crore nett in the first week with the seven day total cruising past to 208-210 crore nett. Now it will be about the crucial 8th day which decides the fate of most films, here its not about the fate as the weekend and now Monday as ensured a blockbuster but about where the film will eventually land up. The film does not have three open weeks like PK or two like Bajrangi Bhaijaan but is still looking to put up strong numbers for the next 2-3 weeks. .
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July 11, 2016 at 4:04 PM
I think we’re seeing a lot of excuses once more..! They’re certainly not as confident as some here about the film crossing Bajrangi or PK. If they were they would have said it.
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July 11, 2016 at 4:39 PM
It’s a decent hold, but I expected at least 20 cr with the excitement of forum. Might play out like BB where weekends are bigger & record breaking rather than weekdays.
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July 11, 2016 at 5:08 PM
Some here are praying for Sultan to beat PK. Some predicted already knowing ticket prices come down & future competition.
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July 11, 2016 at 11:00 PM
After seeing CI figures I suspect it could be closer to 18 crs,
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July 11, 2016 at 11:03 PM
All said and done 400 is not possible and that was what I thought it could get to. If it can be around 10 to 12 cr on Friday it will touch 350
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July 12, 2016 at 12:19 AM
My figure was always around 300cr and after watching 2nd time, I mentioned it will past PK and touch 350cr.
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July 12, 2016 at 2:45 AM
Is everyone backtracking now? Why?
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July 12, 2016 at 3:14 AM
Lets wait till Friday and then we will back track 🙂 But I think 350 is still on…as you said, the jump on weekends will be like BB. It is losing 2000 screens to GGM. Yraj agreed to this even though they had a 2 week contract.
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July 12, 2016 at 5:09 AM
I think this will fall short of P.K.
I think it will be 235cr week 1 (9 days), 62cr week 2 (I’ve assumed same trend of BB where the weekend grows big & baked in a similar thur-fri drop) taking it to 296cr after 2 weeks. It would need to match BB after week 2 to have any chance of catching P.K, which is quite tough. W2 – W4 all has competition & I suspect WOM is good but not on BB / P.K level. which is s fair assumption as good as Monday total is it needed to be on or more than 20 cr, wasn’t even close.
Matching or beating BB is a more realistic option.
This would be my prediction.
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July 12, 2016 at 5:15 AM
Quite possible. The Monday numbers are definitely not great. Its 15.54 crs. The CI trend showed it much higher but its possible multiplexes went down as they do during weekdays. If it is around 12 cr on Friday its still possible but for that to happen it needs to overcome the 2000 screens it will lose to GGN by higher capacities.
One more thing, the ticket rates were ridiculously high for sultan. The theatre I saw was charging 400 buck and usually they charge around 300…Around 20 crores would have been due to the hike in price.
The silver lining is that the third week of the movie has only Madaari coming so if GGN is not up to the mark the third week hold will be stronger than BB
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July 12, 2016 at 5:19 AM
12 cr on Fri is a huge stretch, it would need to drop 5% daily to get that and do that on thu-fri when it loses screens.
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July 12, 2016 at 5:28 AM
Hmm…BB was 12.8 on second Friday, PK was around 14cr. But both were at 182 cr after 1st week and this will be 50 crores ahead. So considering BB was at 12.8, as long as Sultan doesn’t drop below 10 cr on Friday (and considering it has an headstart of 50 cr), it should break the record. What say?
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July 12, 2016 at 5:38 AM
I suggest you do a daily estimate and see where you land. Sultan could very well drop below 10cr on Fri. Just apply a 10% daily drop till thursday and a slightly more severe drop for fri (exactly what happened to BB).
The headstart is all fine but P.K made some 155 cr from week 1 onwards & BB some 138 cr. These are tough totals. Sultan will only need 100cr. With less screens. Tough I’d say.
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July 12, 2016 at 6:42 AM
“Hmm…BB was 12.8 on second Friday, PK was around 14cr”
More critically, Sultan’s Monday gross is the same as BB’s 7th day gross. So basically from hear on in, it is likely to be behind BB on a daily basis…the 50 cr lead will be chipped away daily.
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July 11, 2016 at 4:58 PM
They mean crucial 10th day, no proof reading at BOI
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July 11, 2016 at 5:40 PM
There seems to be neither proof nor reading at BOI…
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July 11, 2016 at 5:45 PM
lol!
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July 11, 2016 at 6:48 PM
An Jo yours is THE COMMENT of this thread!!
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July 11, 2016 at 10:37 PM
Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious comment An Jo, I doubt BOI can use this word way too over their head
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July 12, 2016 at 12:05 AM
The comments are simply supercalifragilisticexpialidocious.
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July 12, 2016 at 4:10 AM
“Is everyone backtracking now? Why?”
Only Krish!. For 400 cr, only Krish was on…now he’s back to breaking PK 340 which was usual expectation on here and which seem to be still on.
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July 11, 2016 at 5:07 PM
The Mumbai of today has become synonymous with crowded trains, traffic jams among other troubles. We rewind to the time when the city was a calm, serene place..
http://www.mid-day.com/photos/flashback-in-pictures-when-mumbai-was-bombay/8215
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July 11, 2016 at 9:30 PM
Haven’t seen Sultan as of now. It will go on to become a big grosser or perhaps the biggest. Big challenge for Aamir…Salman is undisputed number 1 thanks to volume and the grosses.
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July 12, 2016 at 3:24 AM
Director Indra Kumar has confirmed that the sequel to ‘Dil’ will go on floors this year.
Director Indra Kumar, who has to his credit films like Dil, Beta, Ishq, Dhamaal, Masti franchise to name a few, has confirmed that he is planning to make a sequel to his 1990 hit film Dil which originally starred Aamir Khan and Madhuri Dixit in the leads.
The Ishq helmer was interacting with the media at a promotional event held for his upcoming flick Great Grand Masti, which is the third film in the Masti franchise. When asked about the rumours of a sequel to Dil are true, the filmmaker revealed that “I again want to go back to romance. Mere andar is umar mein phir se romance jaag raha hai (at this age, romance is once again awakening in me). and I want to do a romantic film now.”
He further said that the sequel to Dil is most likely to go on floors this year. However, the cast of the sequel has not been revealed yet. Kumar is working on the script and songs of the sequel as of now and the cast has not been finalised.
http://www.dnaindia.com/entertainment/report-good-news-sequel-to-amir-khan-madhuri-dixit-starrer-dil-will-go-on-floors-this-year-2232942
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July 12, 2016 at 3:32 AM
The Eid release has been on a record breaking spree…
Salman Khan‘s Sultan has performed tremendously well at the box office. The film received fabulous reviews from both the critics and the audience. In fact, even though the Eid date shifted on the last day, the film stood strong and performed phenomenally at the domestic and International box office. Sultan has already collected Rs 180.36 crore at the end of its first weekend and broken several records. And with a good word of mouth of publicity flowing for the film, it is all set to break a few more records. However, there are three records that Sultan could not break. Yes, Salman’s Eid release couldn’t break three records set by Shah Rukh Khan‘s films.Take a look right here:
Highest opening day collection
Sultan collected Rs 36.54 crore on day one, which was lesser than the opening day collections of Shah Rukh Khan’s Happy New Year (Rs 44.97 crore). It was also lesser than his last release – Prem Ratan Dhan Payo‘s opening day collection of Rs 40.35 crore.
Highest 3-day collections
Shah Rukh Khan’s Happy New Year still holds the record for the highest 3-day collection. If you remember, the Diwali release had collected Rs 108.86 crore in 3 days. Sultan also came close to beating the this record but ended up just short as it collected Rs 105.34 crore.
Highest overseas opener
Salman Khan’s Sultan opened very well at the overseas market as it collected Rs 20.50 crore on day 1. However, it couldn’t cross the highest overseas opening day collection of Dilwale, which stands at Rs 22.61 crore.
http://www.bollywoodlife.com/news-gossip/3-records-set-by-shah-rukh-khan-that-salman-khans-sultan-failed-to-break/
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July 12, 2016 at 3:36 AM
If PK record is broken by Sultan, will SRK fans still root for Salman or go back to SRK? Or they became Salman fans because SRK disappoints them nowadays? Have they given up on their idol?
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July 12, 2016 at 4:04 AM
Perdonally, Its more about movie. If I like Dangal, I will hope it breaks Sultan’s collections. I have favorite stars but biggest motivation is movie itself and am not some teen movie fan. I only liked BB and Sultan..not other southern remake his by Salman.
Also favorite star has nothing to do with boxoffice. Your favorite can be even Nawazuddin or Irrfan and they are not even real stars for boxoffice. Just coz few films underperform, they don’t cease to be favourite.
Not everyone is like you sanjana who jumped from Srk to Aamir and tomorrow maybe Ajay Devgn.
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July 12, 2016 at 4:06 AM
Also, if you see I support many Akki films but its based on movies..like AIRLIFT, Rustom…I don’t even care or comment on Brothers or Singh is Bling!
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July 12, 2016 at 4:37 AM
I am different. It is not about movies but personality which make me some someone’s fan.
More than his movies, I am a fan of his personality.
Even if akshay or salman are extremely successful, I am not motivated to see their movies nowadays. I still prefer to watch their past works.
As for srk, his outward bubbliness does not fool me. He has a serious side to him which he is not revealing too much. Maybe through some films he gives vent to his inner feelings.
If I talk about films only, Rajesh Khanna’s films always make me smile and sad. His personility does not make me dislike his films.
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July 12, 2016 at 10:15 AM
“I am different.”
Yawn! Trust me, everyone in the world says the samething!
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July 12, 2016 at 11:32 AM
That’s true. Everyone one is different and you can’t slot anyone.
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July 12, 2016 at 4:42 AM
Sultan has had the sixth highest Monday ever but it is the highest ever if we don’t count holiday releases or film where the ticket rates were kept high on weekdays as it was a holiday period. Below are the top ten first Monday collections of all time..
1. Krrish 3 – 29.64 crore (Holiday)
2. Bajrangi Bhaijaan – 26.78 crore (Holiday)
3. PK – 21.15 crore (Enhanced Ticket Rates)
4. Dhoom 3 – 19.87 crore (Enhanced Ticket Rates)
5. Ek Tha Tiger – 18.96 crore (Holiday)
6. Sultan – 15.50. apprx
7. Singham Returns – 14.69 crore
8. Kick – 13.86 crore
9. Happy New Year – 12.74 crore
10. Prem Ratan Dhan Payo – 12.52 crore
Sultan is the only film to go over 15 crore nett where the Monday is a regular Monday like for the majority of releases. PK and Dhoom 3 were both christmas releases so although the Monday for them was not a official holiday, the ticket rates were kept high through the first seven days (more for PK) to benefit from the Christmas period.
If we compare with a Dhoom 3 or PK, Sultan has had double the consumption before the Monday, in another words almost twice the number of people have seen and then Monday is just 20% less than those films despite it being screened on lower ticket rates.
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July 12, 2016 at 5:20 AM
Comparing sultan numbers with D3/PK saying latter had higher ticket rates but they wont mention the highest ever tickets rates for Sultan over the 5 day weekend .. who will take that into account and what about the numbers of screens ? also i dont believe the 3 year old D3 had higher ticket rates on weekdays than Sultan .
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July 12, 2016 at 5:32 AM
With the kind of reporting to justify why x, y & z fail to beat other films, I’d not take it seriously. The pure collections & drops/trends speak greater volumes. Everything else is noise and demand/supply.
Footfalls is another debunk idea – it totally misses the social divide created by ticket pricing. It’s all demand and supply at the end of the day. If there is a demand to sell tickets so high, people will do it. It’s whether they have priced correctly to maximise revenue that counts.
Lowering or increasing prices affects demand, its whether the demand is elastic or inelastic to know if the impact is positive or negative.
In layman terms Salman & SRK are inelastic superstars who have very loyal fans quite happy to run to the screen FDFS. Aamir stars in more inelastic demand films where there is strong feeling from audience that the film will be good to watch and he probably captures non loyal fans as a result.
Akshay is learning to make the transition but I think he does too many films to have the big box office impact.
Poor Hrithik has tried for ages but is just a poor man’s Aamir stuck in the middle – either sticking or twisting. Essentially following Aamir without the script sense.
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July 12, 2016 at 4:47 AM
Sultan continued its great run at the box office on Monday with collections in the 16 crore nett region. The film had ticket rates at multiplexes come to normal levels and the drop in rates were was more than normal as ticket rates were inflated to highest rates ever over the five day weekend. The collections are down 50% from Friday but footfalls are down just 30%. The collections of Sultan till date are as follows.
Friday – 36.59,00,000
Thursday 37,25,00,000
Friday – 31,50,00,000
Saturday – 36,50,00,000
Sunday 38,25,00,000
Monday – 16,00,00,000 apprx
TOTAL – 196.09 crore apprx
The film is going be the first film to cross 200 crore nett in a week as its heading for a 210 crore apprx first week beating the previous record by an insane 27 crore nett apprx. The extended nine day week will fall in the 230-235 crore nett range and then comes the crucial 8th day which will give a idea where the film will go in terms of lifetime business.
The early release of Great Grand Masti means the film will not get a clear run like the other big films like Bajrangi Bhaijaan, PK and Dhoom 3 got and although Great Grand Masti is not a huge film it will be a film aiming at a 2000 screen release which will hit the screen space of Sultan.
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July 12, 2016 at 4:53 AM
They say the 5 day ticket prices were the highest for Sultan and Monday is normal.
What were the ticket prices for D3, PK and BB, highest and lowest?
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July 12, 2016 at 10:01 AM
PK had the highest rates followed by Sultan followed by BB.
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July 12, 2016 at 11:53 AM
Nope , BOI clearly says here sultan had the highest ever ticket rates over the 5 day weekend http://boxofficeindia.com/art_detail.php?articalid=2152#.V4USK5N97BI
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July 12, 2016 at 4:51 AM
http://www.bollywoodlife.com/news-gossip/shah-rukh-khan-was-asked-to-pick-between-salman-khan-and-aamir-khan-guess-whos-his-favourite/Don’t dodge the question #AskSrk @iamsrk
— Umair (@Marieebiskut) July 11, 2016
Don’t ask dodgy questions.
— Shah Rukh Khan (@iamsrk) July 11, 2016
This was one instance, there was another question by a person, who we believe was a Salman Khan fan (coz his handle had Sultan with a lovey dovey heart). This one was curious to know why SRK had snubbed his friends and blocked them on Twitter. SRK without an ounce of bad behaviour or rudeness spelled out the reason and wrote, “Bad language…ill thoughts…rude ideas…negative radical views…I don’t need.”
The witty Khan.
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July 12, 2016 at 8:54 AM
Technically and for reasonable minds comparing apples to apples and going by the acceptance level, this movie released on Dec 18th does 400crs net biz by Jan 5 when all is said and done. So that topic should be closed.
In current scenario due to front loading this may still trend at decent levels during weekdays but at much larger scale during weekend/ holidays and get to her 300 in short period of time. There is whole bunch of domestic crowd gearing up for 2nd viewing and in my estimation 2nd weekend (fri- sun) numbers will be anywhere from 55-65cr net inspite of GGM.
addatoday.com @addatoday 7h7 hours ago
#Sultan Tuesday (7th Day) Collection Update for Morning Shows. Solid Start Again! @BeingSalmanKhan @AnushkaSharma
http://www.addatoday.com/2016/07/sultan-tuesday-7th-day-collection.html
Super Cinema @supercinemaent 5h5 hours ago
#Sultan – Wed: ₹ 36 cr, Thur: ₹ 37 cr, Fri: ₹ 32 cr, Sat: ₹ 37 cr, Sun; ₹ 39 cr, Mon: ₹ 16 cr; total: ₹ 197 cr. #AllTimeBlockbuster
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July 12, 2016 at 9:08 AM
The technical issues always come out after collections not before. Now its just plain & simple revision of hyperbola and corrections taking place. Everyone is fretting that their free reign judgement whilst watching the film in amongst a festival crowd (mostly salman fans) has biased their box office collection prediction & frantically running round to find a dossier of excuses to support a 400 cr conclusion at Xmas.
No need there is every chance still that Sultan will beat P.K! No need to come up with excuses now – should of layed them out weeks ago.
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July 12, 2016 at 10:43 AM
what I don’t understand as a matter of simple common sense is that since all of these ‘conditions’ hold and are known prior to release why do folks nonetheless make these claims? Why not just wait a bit and crow about it later? Specially when 99% of big films not starring Aamir fizzle out irrespective of the ‘historic’ starts? Not just big films. Most Bollywood films these days are weak on trending. If one knows these things (release date, competition et al) and one nonetheless makes those claims one obviously believes that the highest numbers are still possible. I actually agree! If Sultan is liked as much as Bajrangi there is nothing that will stop it from crossing PK! It might do it anyway (though I’ve always doubted this.. mostly because of the WOM.. even early on I heard lots of negative views from people I knew whereas on Bajrangi it was really hard to find anyone) but the point is that all of these excuses simply don’t hold water. Leaving aside the fact that they sound silly on their own. A ‘hurricane’ of a film, ‘historic’ in every sense… but oops a half-signifcant release and there go all the records! This happens because people commit to a thesis and then try very hard to make the evidence match it.
Some of us have always had a much simpler explanation. Of course Salman can get to the biggest grosses the way he opens films. But it’s always improbable because his films by and larger trend weakly. And this because he doesn’t do sensible films. Now saying that he can suddenly become like Aamir is itself an imaginary position. Because his market is premised on doing the ‘trashy’ (let’s call it by its proper name…) for the most part. This is what his stardom is based on. Once you go down that route it’s hard to find good scripts in contemporary Bollywood. Bajrangi was an exception but also not the usual Salman film in a number of ways. Sultan on the other hand is par for the course. You have a Yashraj film, mounted that way and so on but at bottom it’s still a pretty mediocre film (and I’m being kind). Compared to this Ghajini is a total classic (even if the same folks pretend not to see this). You know what kind of film it’s going to be the day Salman signs it. If he were in Tamil films he might get good scripts from time to time though even there masala stars those days mostly do completely run of the mill stuff. Telugu is even worse and Salman is very much in that lineage. Now this works for him and that’s great. He’s appealing in those roles, his record has been astonishing since Dabanng in terms of pulling initials, no one’s denying any of this. But all the hype in the world cannot make a film trend strongly. Ultimately it has to be liked enough at any end of the production spectrum. EVen competition can hurt a film on the gross but not change it’s overall trending trajectory (Singham/ZNMD anyone?!). But especially with a star like Salman in a big film no one’s going to skip the film if they were otherwise going to watch it just because a Masti sequel is releasing. That’s absurd. As for the screen count that’s ridiculous too because in multiplexes these days there are enough shows all the time. Hourly shows and shows every 2-3 hrs is not a huge difference. Again no one says ‘I wanted to watch Sultan but it’s a 9:30 show, not an 8:30 and so I’ll miss it’. And yashraj if anything will ensure a certain screen count irrespective of everything else. The lower number is also a red herring. Because they will have the best screens and the best timings for their films. Everyone knows this. It’s dishonest to pretend otherwise. There is no record that Sultan cannot put up in week 2 if it’s otherwise on that course because of a Masti sequel. None whatsoever. And of course what happened yesterday? Why wasn’t it the 20 plus Mon everyone was talking about? In fact from day 1 hasn’t this been the case? The film has put up massive numbers but not quite as high as everyone predicted. On day 1 it was supposed to be well in excess of 40. What happened? Evening shows didn’t come through? But the same folks then keep predicting again and again and again. People are constantly wrong but this never stops them from making equally confident predictions the next time around. And if one is depending on a source for the info one should fire that source! One might have the strongest possible wish to have SRK or Salman get to Aamir’s numbers but hey just wishing ain’t getting it done! And how many chance does Salman need after these massive initials to prove this? Again I don’t have anything against Sultan crossing PK. The facts are what they are. If it happens great for Salman. Greater still for the anti-Aamir folks who’ll pretend that this wipes out more than a decade of post-Lagaan history. Yeah.. whatever.
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July 12, 2016 at 11:29 AM
**As for the screen count that’s ridiculous too because in multiplexes these days there are enough shows all the time. Hourly shows and shows every 2-3 hrs is not a huge difference. Again no one says ‘I wanted to watch Sultan but it’s a 9:30 show, not an 8:30 and so I’ll miss it’.**
Well said. I have always had this issue with regard to this issue of screen-count.
I am not very well-aware about the multiplex-system in India but..
1) If a person/family wants to see SULTAN or any movie, they will see it at a time convenient to them. For instance, if the evening shows are cut down on week-days in the 2nd week, won’t they wait to watch it at a time convenient to them on the week-end? Will they ALTOGETHER skip the movie? The monies it would be accumulating on a Wednesday would now be pushed to coming Sat or Sun. But it is still accumulating isn’t it?
2) Cutting down the shows/distance:
Let’s say shows are cut down on the week-days in R MALL, Mulund. Folks living close to this mall now only have the option of going to Cinemax Odeon, Ghatkoper. It definitely is an inconvenience for them since they can’t come back from work and immediately drive or catch the local to Ghatkoper and reach before 6 or 7 pm. Won’t these folks wait til the week-end? Ditto if one has to go from Old Rajender Nagar to Vasant Kung in ND or even from Malleshwaram to JP NAGAR in Bangalore..
3) I feel it is actually more problematic in the US. For instance, Marathi movies are rarely released in DC or Baltimore. One has to drive all the way to Virginia, if luckily enough Marathi movie finds a showtime. Even then, it will be set at 8:30 AM on a Sunday, for one show! It is difficult as it is — for me at least — to get up at 7 and go to work daily. Why would I want to get up at 6:30 AM on a Sunday after I am drunk on a Saturday? And I am actually a guy who is very hungry for Marathi movies. I wouldn’t want to miss them. [I missed RAMAN RAGHAV for this reason itself].
4) The ‘Would Like To’/’Will Not’ list:
The ones who wait till the 3rd or 4th week to watch a movie would be the non-fans of the star and so, they wouldn’t be very interested in watching the movie but then they will watch the movie ONLY if the WOM is too good. Somebody like me is not even an audience for SULTAN. I might watch it but just don’t care if I miss it. I will catch it free later. [Master has already watched it twice; the second time for me – so Arbaaz and Sohail didn’t miss out on their income.]
So folks like should not even be included in the ‘potential’ end-figure calculation.
Again, I am neither very interested nor very knowledgeable on BO matters but just provided some thought-process..
Somebody like Krish or Jayshah who are more invested in BO can provide information as to how multiplex shows-contracts [if any] work in India [for instance, do you HAVE to cut down shows even if your movie is doing very well and earning moolah at the BO in its 4th week to give space to upcoming movies? Even if the upcoming movie carries a negative report?]
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July 12, 2016 at 11:37 AM
Agree everyone making predictions barring a couple (no names mentioned) are sensible. They know the holidays (where collections go up), ticket pricing (when they come down), competition (when future releases are coming & impact it can have on collections). Pre-release predictions take this into account. Yet everyone throws 400cr or 350cr (BB, PRDP, Dilwale & and Sultan) like anything…and then excuses on screens/competition/ticket pricing & EID vs. Diwali vs. Xmas are used to adjust the prediction & ultimately diminish the chap who is 5 foot 5 inches who has only released TZP/Ghajini/3 Idiots/D3/PK over Xmas over a 9 year period.
Never mind Akshay’s BB flop TMK, Salman’s Dabanng 2 which opened well but trended averagely & SRK’s Don 2 doing much the same – ALL on XMAS!
The only excuse not used yet is the rumour that Aamir has agreed with every producer & exhibitor to ensure his films is always top – a contract signed since 2008 with only 1 life (Chennai Express)!
Funnily I read the discussion on GGM screen share between GGM & Yashraj took place at Aamir’s residence!!! That wily old fox probably brokered the deal! Those grey hairs are not just for show!
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July 12, 2016 at 11:51 AM
http://www.india.com/showbiz/salman-khans-sultan-makes-way-for-great-grand-masti-in-theatres-thanks-to-aamir-khan-yrf-1323221/
Actor Aamir Khan called up Aditya Chopra to request him to let go of some screens for the Indra Kumar directorial in an effort to fight online piracy.
Surprised he’s yet to be trashed on this one.
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July 12, 2016 at 1:53 PM
My few cents on this…Not specific to Sultan but in general
When a movie announces a release date, it books the screens before announcing it. That’s the reason they are confident enough to book a screen months or even years in advance. They will book not just the best screens in a multiplex, but also the best shows in a single screen.
Losing a screen typically in a multiplex means you are down by 8-10 shows. For big movies multiplexes might have 3-4 screens playing and one of them might be very high capacity than the others. So if a new movie comes either the movie is shifted to a smaller screen or if it is not grossing enough will be moved out. The best example is the Sathyam chain in Chennai…Sathyam theatre is the highest grossing screen, there are 11 other theatres in the chain, the others have screen capacity from 30 to 100 but nothing matches the earning from the main screen.
In Single screen usually this means shifting the movie to a single show in the matinee or in most cases losing the screen altogether.
Another factor is that this tussle for screens is not just with another Bollywood movie, the competition is also with regional movies. So a Sultan doesn’t stand a chance in kerala to get good screens as they will go to Kasaba…
The terms of contract during release will mean that irrespective of how the previous movie is faring, it will make way for the next movie assuming that producer has already made some agreement with the theatre chain or single screen owner.
Losing a screen in a place like Mumbai might not be that much visavis losing a screen in a place like Jaipur or even in a more A grade city like Bangalore or Chennai. A person in Mulund has options of theatres in Bhandup, Huma theatres in Kanjurmarg, Thane and so on. But in smaller cities like Jaipur for example, the main single screen is Raja Mandir which has a huge capacity. if you lose that theatre you lose pretty much the entire single screen revenue of Jaipur which is a mass + Class centre. Now extrapolate this to thousands of small cities in India where typically they all will have 1 screen playing of the movie. Even in a place like Bangalore which is a A centre, travelling from Malleswaram to JP nagar is not a sure case unless the family is a die hard fan of that star. As a family man with 2 kids, I can speak for myself, I am pretty much stuck to Cinepolis and will not go to any other theatre due to the proximity. So since Finding Dory was not playing in 2D I skipped that movie. This is also true for a lot of people who avoid multiplexes due to the costs involved. To take an example from Bangalore, The IT crowd in the Tavarekere area would primarily prefer Srinivas or Laxmi single screen theatre to a Forum. If a movie moves from there they skip the movie.
Again moving the movie to a smaller screen leads to invariably capacity problems. Sathyam in Chennai is again an excellent example. The smaller screens of Sathyam will always be full doesn’t matter what movie is running. So if someone is specifically seeking out a movie playing in a smaller screen, you are likely to go back without seeing that movie.
The other point is not everyone is as star focused as some are and will catch the stars movie whatsoever happens. For many movie is just an impulse decision.
Finally the number of examples we have of movies suddenly experiencing a drop in collections are many. Jay was alluding earlier to me to consider the Thurs to Fri drop of Sultan due to the loss in screens. Because he knows its a reality.
Three very good examples I can think of. Chennai express collected 12+ cr on Wednesday (Thursday was a holiday so I will ignore) and was showing less than 10% drop till then day by day, then suddenly on Friday it was at 6 crs – a 50% drop from Wednesday. People suddenly didnt change their liking for the movie over Thursday. Its just that it lost 1500 screens to OUATIM2. Same for PK which dropped suddenly by 30% between Week 3 and 4 Or BB which dropped by 30% between Week 2 and 3. A movie which is showing less than 10% drop every day , suddenly on a Friday develops a huge drop. That happens because screens stop playing the movie, people who anyways have tons of other choices to watch also has options to seek from.
Satyams theory that whoever wants to see the movie will seek it and see it even if it not playing is a good one on paper but unfortunately it doesn’t work that way in reality. Movie watching is all about convenience and accessibility and this problem is more so in a place which is not a Mumbai or Delhi
Now GGN releasing a week after Sultan was not supposed to happen. Ekta films had planned the release only two weeks after Sultan. But due to piracy they had to release it earlier and YRaj films have accommodated them keeping aside the contract.
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July 12, 2016 at 2:06 PM
It makes sense but my caveat would be in a theatre that was going 100% capacity & suddenly loses some shows & suddenly has 50% capacity, the gap can’t be attributed to what you say. The capacity within a confined city/theatre is there. The movie going public has not shrunk just the accessibility, the capacity to fill the theatre is always there. So to Satyam’s point, there should a tick up in occupancy in some places to compensate a whole area losing its means to watch a film. Overall agree that it does impact, numbers prove it, but the impact for a movie that has good WOM is far less than one that doesn’t.
On CE going from 12 to 6 from wednesday to fri with a huge holiday in between is partly exhaustion on the thurs & partly loss of screens – but where screens are impacted but not accessibility, occupancy should be higher.
WOM is far more important as a flop film on 1000 screens going to 5000 screens is hardly going to increase collections massively – its a dud, a dud is a dud.
The theory should work both ways. Its mainly about WOM. Both HAHK & Vivaah proved this – releasing on small scale & gradually widening the accessibility -it only worked as the audience demanded it.
GGM will be a dud on release, its been pirated the impact will be short term.
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July 12, 2016 at 12:54 PM
Have you see Sultan?
Some comments on FB forum.
“There is nothing to dislike in the movie. The movie is told in coherent way. But it is more like Indian soap with no depth.
*spoilers*
The conflict is laughable without any appreciable background. He left wrestling to grieve; then to redeem he wants to open blood bank and he joins wrestling/MMA again. Or he wanted the kid and aarfa was more in wrestling and she was persuaded by his happiness to have kid. But when the kid died she was more devastated and enraged enough to disown him. This was the backbone of the movie.
I though the writing was using convenient paths.”
“I am pretty sure in India also you do blood test when someone is pregnant to figure risks of pregnancy. Especially when you have One parent O negative. If mother is rh negative, you have to go through rhogham shot sequence.
Losing a kid towards end of pregnancy or after birth is devastating for both parents. But whole sequence in movie was half baked and simplistic.”
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July 12, 2016 at 2:41 PM
Rajkumar Hirani & Abhijhat Joshi | PK – The logic versus emotion debate
Anupama Chopra: After I saw the PK Abhijat, you and I had a long conversation and of course, I loved the first half but I talked to you about the things which I found emotionally unconvincing .You explained how as creative artists you took a call to allow things which you knew were flawed so that the larger emotional arc of a film can be served. How do you do that? How do you actually say, “Okay, this is not perfect but the bigger picture is better because of this.” Is it difficult? Is it instinctive? How do you take those calls?
AC: So in a sense, in storytelling, is emotion more important than logic?
Rajkumar Hirani: I think what is most important is engaging an audience. All of us, be it critics, be it filmmakers, we have lost the innocence of watching a film. We can never watch the film the way we watched it while we were students.Now every filmmaker I meet, they don’t come up with what they thought about the film, they say, “Arrey yaar! You are getting the girl at the 30th minute? That’s not the right thing to do. Plot point comes at this point.” So they come up with these kind of things, which when you talk to a normal audience, they don’t care. They want to be engaged, they are with you, they have walked into the hall, bought their ticket and say, “Come on now, entertain us.” I am not saying logic is not important. Logic is important. But you pick up your best film, you will find holes in it, because you are jumping in time, space constantly.
AC: And that’s creative liberty.
AJ: Like in Lage Raho Munna Bhai, Jimmy Shergill’s character calls the radio station at a certain time, and at one point we realized that how does Jimmy Shergill know that Munna will be at the radio station but we realized nobody else in the world is going to think about, so we let it pass.
RH: No, because what happens is that when you create logic to match that, you are actually disengaging the audience. You are spending 30 seconds of screen time to get the logic right which is actually disengaging them from drama…..
https://in.bookmyshow.com/entertainment/rajkumar-hirani-abhijhat-joshi-pk-logic-versus-emotion-debate/52000
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July 12, 2016 at 3:05 PM
yes saw it Sat night:
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July 12, 2016 at 3:06 PM
agreed that the crisis was absurd. [SPOILERS] Can the poor guy really be blamed for wanting to fight for another championship when that’s his profession and when nothing indicates that there will be a problem with the pregnancy?
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July 12, 2016 at 3:06 PM
I’d say again that with this material a vastly better script and film might have been fashioned.
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July 12, 2016 at 9:02 AM
Bajrangi Bhaijaan vs Sultan vs PK: Box Office Collections
Only two films have crossed the 300 crore mark so far: Aamir Khan – Anushka – Rajkumar Hirani’s PK and Salman Khan – Kabir Khan’s Bajrangi Bhaijaan. Salman, under Ali Abbas Zafar’s direction and Anushka as his lead heroine, will have yet another go at the 300 crore club, as his latest release ‘Sultan’ has already collected ₹ 181 crore in 5 days at the box office.
Release factors in favour and against all three films:
PK (December 2014) : 3900 screens, highest average ticket price, 3 open weeks, no competition
Bajrangi Bhaijaan (July 2015) : 4000 screens, lowest average ticket price (compared to other two), 2 open weeks, competition from
Baahubali
Sultan (July 2016) : 4350 screens, 2nd highest average ticket price, 1 open week, competition from Great Grand Masti from Week 2.
July 11 Update: At the end of 5 days, Bajrangi Bhaijaan had collected 151.05 crore, PK had collected ₹ 135.79 crore and Sultan has accumulated ₹ 180.36 crore. So, Salman Khan’s latest release is ₹ 29.31 crore ahead of Bajrangi Bhaijaan and a whopping ₹ 44.57 crore ahead of PK. Interestingly, the highest single day of Sultan was lower than the highest single day of both Bajrangi Bhaijaan and PK!
On Day 6, PK collected ₹ 19.55 crore, while Bajrangi Bhaijaan notched up ₹ 18.05 crore. Both were working weekdays. But since Sultan had a extended 5-day weekend, during which business was at a very high level throughout, it’ll be interesting to see where Monday finishes for Sultan.
We’ll be analysing the trend over the next few days. Even if Sultan collects about half of what PK collected after its first 5 days, the film will cross the 300 crore mark. If it matches pace and collects as much as PK did, then it’ll get close to the unbelievable 400 crore mark! If it collects as well as Bajrangi Bhaijaan, it’ll be the highest grosser of all time and cross the 350 crore mark!
July 12 Update: Sultan has collected Rs 15.54 crore on its 6th day at the box office, which is the same as what Bajrangi Bhaijaan collected on its 7th day. The reduction in multiplex ticket prices, along with a majority of audience watching the film in the first extended weekend itself – meant that the film had a ‘bigger-than-expected’ drop on Monday. At the end of the 6th day, Bajrangi Bhaijaan had collected 169.1 crore, while PK had collected 163.34 crore. Sultan is ahead of BB by 26.8 crore and PK by 32.56 crore. The gap with PK has reduced quite considerably and should decrease further tomorrow, because the Christmas holiday was on the 7th day of its run.
From the first Monday collections of Sultan – one thing is clear, the 400 crore mark is now beyond the reach of the film and even becoming the highest grosser of all time could prove to be difficult. However, it does have a good chance of crossing the 300 crore mark and even challenging the lifetime business of Bajrangi Bhaijaan (possibly even PK, if picks up in the 2nd weekend). The release of Great Grand Masti won’t have a big impact on Sultan, but on a lower level, it will definitely make a small dent on business – because a section of the audience will have a choice to make and the repeat audience at smaller centres could also reduce.
This page will be updated everyday.
Day Bajrangi Bhaijaan PK Sultan
Day 1 27.25 26.63 36.54
Day 2 36.60 30.34 37.32
Day 3 38.75 38.24 31.67
Day 4 27.05 21.22 36.62
Day 5 21.4 19.36 38.21
Day 6 18.05 19.55 15.54
Day 7 15.55 27.55
First Week 184.65 cr 182.89 cr
Day 8 12.80 14.55
Day 9 19.25 17.12
Day 10 24.05 22.25
Day 11 9.30 10.08
Day 12 9.10 9.11
Day 13 7.10 9.05
Day 14 6.03 13.48
Two Week 272.28 cr 278.53 cr
Day 15 4.11 6.85
Day 16 6.80 8.32
Day 17 9.07 11.58
Day 18 2.75 4.42
Day 19 2.63 4.02
Day 20 2.45 3.46
Day 21 2.25 2.96
Three Week Total 302.34 cr 320.14 cr
Day 22 1.45 1.82
Day 23 2.73 2.82
Day 24 3.51 4.01
Till Fourth weekend 310.03 cr 328.79 cr
Remaining weeks 10.45 11.81
India Collections 320.48 cr 340.6 cr 195.9 cr
Overseas Collections 193.52 cr 306.1 cr 92.0 cr (5 days)
Courtesy: Indicine
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July 12, 2016 at 9:25 AM
A clash with another film featuring the powerhouse Irrfan Khan would have made matters progressively worse. But not anymore. Madaari’s director, Nishikant Kamat, has revealed that he, along with his producers, has decided to push the release date of his film thereby giving GGM a clear window.
In a statement shared with the press, Kamat said, “While we were apprehensive to shift our date again to 22 July, we felt strongly that the cause of piracy owing to the leak of Great Grand Masti was more crucial, and as creative people we must all support each other and create an eco-system where we hopefully can survive through such tactical ways to fight back things like piracy.”
This isn’t the first time the Irrfan Khan starrer’s release has been pushed. Earlier, it was set to open on June 10 but the makers moved the dates to avoid a clash with the Amitabh Bachchan starrer Te3n.
Madaari isn’t the only film that is going out of its way to help GGM. According to a dna report, Aditya Chopra, producer of the recently released blockbuster Sultan, has agreed to share screens with the beleaguered film.
http://www.huffingtonpost.in/2016/07/11/irrfan-khans-madaari-has-been-pushed-yet-again-this-time-for/
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July 12, 2016 at 12:15 PM
In a BO story, Hrithik PR has confirmed Krish3 did 188 crore
http://m.indiaglitz.com/rights-of-hrithiks-next-six-films-sold-for-a-whooping-550-crores–hindi-news-163077.html
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July 12, 2016 at 12:37 PM
He’s not uttering the words?
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July 12, 2016 at 12:57 PM
This is HR’s PR team.
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July 12, 2016 at 1:01 PM
Ah ok…so finally the lie is now truth!
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July 12, 2016 at 3:19 PM
Ah so finally the intensive Math-coaching classes worked…
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July 12, 2016 at 3:01 PM
LOL, hope Apex is reading!
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July 12, 2016 at 1:08 PM
IndiaTV- Sultan is now among ALL TIME BOLLYWOOD
BLOCKBUSTER; Salman’s third
addatoday.com @addatoday 56m56 minutes ago
#Sultan 7th Day (Tuesday) Collection Early Trends. ROCK STEADY! http://www.addatoday.com/2016/07/sultan-7th-day-tuesday-collection-early.html … @BeingSalmanKhan @AnushkaSharma
Umair Sandhu @sandhumerry 39m39 minutes ago
Celebration Time for Fans! #Sultan crossed ” 200 cr ” in India in Just 7 Days. All Time Record Blockbuster!
Mister Chang @MeiyangChang 1h1 hour ago Mumbai, India
Man! Sooo much love for my work in #Sultan .Merci! 😘 Would u believe I haven’t watched it yet myself? Sultan SLAM! 😆
dnaVerified account @dna 2h2 hours ago
Rs 344.5 crore! That’s how much #SalmanKhan’s #Sultan has collected worldwide in just 5 days
Joginder Tuteja @Tutejajoginder 2h2 hours ago
Box Office – #Sultan goes past Happy New Year, 3 Idiots and Ek Tha Tiger lifetime today @bollyreflection
Joginder Tuteja @Tutejajoginder 25m25 minutes ago
#Sultan enters #200CroreClub. @BeingSalmanKhan’s fourth after #BajrangiBhaijaan #Kick #PremRatanDhanPayo
RAJ BANSAL @rajbansal9 4h4 hours ago
#Sultan is almost at par with Monday s collection.
PJ @Prakashjaaju 3h3 hours ago Mumbai, India
#Sultan bahut tez dauda tha isliye saans lene ke liye thoda slow hua hai, Saturday se phir daudegaa.
REAL BOXOFFICE-INDIA @RealBoxofice 7m7 minutes ago
#Sultan (Filtered By @RealBoxofice )
1st Weekend :- 181.49cr
Mon :- 16.34cr
Total (6 Days) :- 197.83cr
ALL TIME BLOCKBUSTER HIT (HISTORY) !!
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July 12, 2016 at 11:23 PM
Tuesday will be less than 14 crs
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July 13, 2016 at 1:16 AM
Tuesday might be less than even 12 crs. No chance now of catching PK…
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July 13, 2016 at 1:57 AM
From where are you getting these reports? Or simply guessing?
Boi so far did not give out any figures for tuesday.
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July 13, 2016 at 2:14 AM
Is it the same source that said yesterday could be as high as 25 cr?
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July 13, 2016 at 2:16 AM
http://www.boxofficeindia.com/art_detail.php?articalid=2154#.V4XcbCNwYm8
13cr on BOI
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July 13, 2016 at 2:57 AM
Won’t be surprised if the official Tue number comes around 12-12.5 .
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July 13, 2016 at 2:36 AM
Nopes that was just a function of multiplying the CI numbers of 0.72 crs by a factor of 25. That’s the arithmetic which usually one does to get to a quick estimate. Then you should add a few crores to that number as CI is more single screen intensive than rest of territories specially if it is a more multiplex centric movie. This is tried and tested method in the trade world. You can try it yourself. It will work for most of the movies. 🙂
P Jaju does this all the time sitting in Indore. He has no clue what is happening in the metroes but will give numbers. And invariably he will go wrong in a mass centric movie 😉
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July 13, 2016 at 4:56 AM
Taran reports producers numbers. I don’t think he can add himself. Otherwise he should have been giving nett instead of city numbers at BH.
YRF numbers are pretty reliable and in a sense pulled down all the enthusiasm of early of 40+ numbers from usual suspects!
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July 13, 2016 at 5:17 AM
According to Taran Tues is 12.92cr, 17% drop from yesterday. Addatoday/Indicine reporting same so that must be producers total.
These trends don’t suggest to me that competition would have impacted Sultan’s chances to beat P.K. Only thing that impacted it was overzealous predictions. Now competition may impact the 300 crore mark, let’s see.
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July 13, 2016 at 2:39 AM
Of course its a guess but not a random one…CI dropped to 0.55 crs from 0.71 crs..a roughly 20% drop…applied that maths to all India…
I don’t have any sources to get numbers otherwise 🙂
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July 13, 2016 at 2:24 AM
Sultan set a huge record for week one as its first week collections went to 208 crore nett plus. This beats the previous first week record of Bajrangi Bhaijaan by a huge 26 crore nett. On the other hand the film also saw its first noticeable drop on day seven after a huge run as it dropped 15% apprx from the previous day. The collections of Sultan till date are as follows.
Friday – 36,59,00,000
Thursday 37,25,00,000
Friday – 31,50,00,000
Saturday – 36,50,00,000
Sunday 38,25,00,000
Monday – 15,50,00,000
Tuesday – 13,00,00,000 apprx
TOTAL – 208.59 crore apprx
The film has basically done the business of films like Chennai Express and Kick in seven days. The extended first week is going to close at around 230 crore nett and where it lands on its second Friday will determine its lifetime business.
boxofficeindia.com
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July 13, 2016 at 2:55 AM
after all that smack talk on here…if this movie doesn’t reach 300cr…lol i’m not rooting one way or another but my only advice is always trust the sensible level headed people on here…always.
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July 13, 2016 at 7:59 AM
Smack talk will never stop. Only biggie left in year that can be top grosser or challenger to Sultan is Dangal. Rustom & Mohenjo Daro are on a path of collision so won’t be a top grosser. Both stars are not top grosser material anyway.
Runs on the board is what matters 337. A lightning start does not guarantee anything…neither does a slightly weaker start (P.K). Right now, Sultan is like 208-5 chasing 337 on a dodgy wicket & behind on duckworth lewis, tough run chase…the predictors of 350-400 cr better hope its Tendulkar, Lara, Richards, Bradman & Sobers coming in to bat next.
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July 13, 2016 at 8:04 AM
love your second paragraph!
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July 13, 2016 at 6:44 AM
I saw Boi’s new avatar. Have to depend on BH for simplicity.
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July 13, 2016 at 8:16 AM
Weekdays are just a temporary stumbling block after extreme front loading and this being a family fare, the movie is likely to come into its own during weekends. This is not going to fizzle out soon. PRPD, HNY, Kick etc the cracks were visible within 2 days of the release.
addatoday.com @addatoday 3h3 hours ago
#Sultan 1st Week (7 Days) Box Office Collection. Broken all existing Record! http://www.addatoday.com/2016/07/sultan-1st-week-7-days-box-office.html … @BeingSalmanKhan @AnushkaSharma
addatoday.com @addatoday 6h6 hours ago
#Sultan 2nd Wednesday (8th Day) Collection Update for Morning Shows. Steady Again -> http://www.addatoday.com/2016/07/sultan-2nd-wednesday-8th-day-collection.html … @BeingSalmanKhan @AnushkaSharma
Super Cinema @supercinemaent 4h4 hours ago
#Sultan – Wed: ₹ 36 cr, Thur: ₹ 37 cr, Fri: ₹ 32 cr, Sat: ₹ 37 cr, Sun; ₹ 39 cr, Mon: ₹ 15.50 cr, Tue: ₹ 13 cr; total: ₹ 209.50 cr.
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July 13, 2016 at 9:30 AM
This shows massive star power of Salman…
Movie doing good in 2nd, 3rd, 4th week is not because of the star but because of the movie itself.
Trending is always talked about by some, on same token the opening should be talked about too for big grosser to show star power.
Of course you can’t take a movie which life time collection is 19 crore of which 17 crore came in first week and call that a starpower 🙂
I assume Aditya is already thinking Dhoom 4 with Salman, he would be an idiot not to go that route.
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July 13, 2016 at 9:46 AM
“Movie doing good in 2nd, 3rd, 4th week is not because of the star but because of the movie itself.”
WOM is strong apparantly at least according to a few here so this should sustain.
We’ve established Salman is a superstar with a spat of stunning openers – the exercise now is to see if the predictors can predict good things after seeing the film; as their critical judgement is on the line. They have that advantage seeing the film, making glowing predictions. I’m just an armchair amateur observer making my observations.
It’s petty I know but nothing makes me smile more than mature grown ups throwing toys out of their prams.
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July 13, 2016 at 10:59 AM
I haven’t seen the film so I can’t comment, can’t remember the last salman film I’ve seen in a theatre.
I’m sure a lot of people who were throwing out the numbers had not seen it either and were just going based on the collection in starting days.
Regardless, the point is the film collecting 208 crore in 7 days flat is amazing and should be celebrated. Not look for excuses to bring it down.
Another thing to look at is the business side of it, I would think the movie making 200 crore in 7 days is more profitable than the one making 200 crore in 175 days.
As an investor I will take 200 crore in 7 days anyday over having the movie open to 50 crore in week 1 and then it make 200 crore total in 25 weeks.
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July 13, 2016 at 11:48 AM
An investor yes. But as an audience or film maker/actor etc, there is much more glory in seeing your film run in theaters for a long time & the long term cash earned is nothing to be snoozed at. The reputation gained, long term sustaining street credit etc.
Ultimately it’s a creative medium & one which audiences want to be entertained for.
Great films or music or art are not remembered on monetary return terms.
And none of us are investors here, we’re all watching films for a reason. Some maybe interested in numbers too like me but its rash for anyone to think the industry is built on around investment return.
Plus I am not snoozing at the stunning opening power of Salman, he’s the biggest star around but like you I rarely watch all his films in theaters so he hasn’t convinced us.
I’d liken it too shorting in the market vs. long term investing. Both can make you millions. Both have advantages for you. But only the latter is a truth that the investment was sound where more than one person could have benefited other than just you. You make a great film for someone that shocks & awes – they will keep coming back & remember it forever, make a lot of junk you’ll get some takers, some adoration but its not a good long term model of success.
I can multiply examples like one night stand vs. having partner for life / junk food vs. healthy diet – all very unrelated but some of the core pleasures/benefits remain same.
You’re a SRK fan because of his films or because how rich he is?
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July 13, 2016 at 12:09 PM
Todays cinema is mostly an investment factory…
I don’t think there’s anybody making a film with not keeping financial gains in mind.
Long term run depends on a lot of factors, movie liked or not, is there a competition or not, did the film opened at huge or medium level, did you have Eid Diwali or Christams and new year release or not, etc…
We’re not going to get a Gadar in this day and age.
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July 13, 2016 at 12:14 PM
No one would think after Titanic you’d get another but then bang you get Avatar years later coincidentally from the same director – many years apart.
The people who are creative and put their heart in it will crack it one day.
Gadar might not happen but maybe what you get nowadays is a run like 3 idiots, no reason why a film today cannot match a pattern like that 7 years ago.
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July 13, 2016 at 12:25 PM
“I don’t think there’s anybody making a film with not keeping financial gains in mind.”
Read the article posted by M.S. Dhoni yesterday on Hirani/Joshi/Chopra discussing P.K’s second half. There is clear conviction in changing the second half as that story was told in Inception, creatively they went back to the table to optimise the outcome of the film to just make it work, keeping in mind engaging the audience & entertainment.
The reality is the industry has very little talent at this level to make things happen. If you are given rubbish to eat you will eat it to survive.
The thought is like yours…lets make D4 and stick Salman in there – we’ll find & make a script for him. The week 1 will cover all costs. Boom, we are on a winner.
Invert it. We have a script & certain budget. It suits this actor. It can be converted into the Dhoom Franchise. We can afford Salman. We can do it.
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July 13, 2016 at 12:38 PM
The greatest entrepreneurial ideas of the last 20 years are probably on the social media side. Hardly any would have been bankrolled by an existing tech company. Most were probably created by some whimsical fluke idea made out of a garden shed by some geeks who loved technology. And all are now billionaires. I doubt there first thought was I want to be on the Nasdaq or FTSE by next year (maybe a dream).
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July 13, 2016 at 12:38 PM
“The reality is the industry has very little talent at this level to make things happen.”
TRUE, and that should be kept in mind when we try to compare stardom from different era to current, not to mention the movie is available to stream the day it releases.
Imagine if todays stars had Manmohan Desai, prakash mehra, yash chopra, salim-javed, rafi-kishor, L-P, RD, K-A, etc to work with?
I think most of todays movies are worse than what we got from mithun in 90’s. At least they were some what entertaining.
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July 13, 2016 at 12:43 PM
“Imagine if todays stars had Manmohan Desai, prakash mehra, yash chopra, salim-javed, rafi-kishor, L-P, RD, K-A, etc to work with?”
The stars of today would ruin it with their financial demands. The fun is taken out with the pressure of money. I bet those folks you mentioned just enjoyed the process of making films & were less worried about what they took home in their pockets.
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July 13, 2016 at 1:23 PM
“The stars of today would ruin it with their financial demands.”
True, part of the problem is star son/daughter, industry family members joining films system. or how easily they get the film offers.
and the cycle will continue.
In few years, aamir, srk, saif, akshay, etc, their kids will be ready and they will get ample offers if they want to join films.
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July 13, 2016 at 11:50 AM
I have been wrong before in predictions, might go wrong again in future, but I don’t mind putting my head on the blocks by quoting a number. I said it will do 400, will fall well short. But whats wrong in getting a prediction wrong?
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July 13, 2016 at 11:54 AM
I did not reference you & did not have you in mind when making that comment.
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July 13, 2016 at 12:04 PM
Thanks 🙂
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July 13, 2016 at 12:09 PM
And I’ve got many a prediction wrong, revisit the archives here on my yearly predictions or NG, I’ve had bricks thrown at me longer than anyone barring the owner of the blog. But one prediction we’ve been right on since 2006 is Aamir and it annoys the f*&k out of people. Cos they keep coming back wishing that film number 1,0000,78963 will beat his collections. And that “long term” investment has many a laugh for me!
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July 13, 2016 at 12:15 PM
Krish, I’ll take posts from somebody like you (even if the prediction is wild).
It’s better than some who spends time trying to bring films down and when their fav actor films releases, they’re silent, they can’t even give prediction.
If any film will do 400 crore, it will be Dhoom 4 with Salman or Raj Kumar Hirani masala film (not the Sanjay Dutt biopic he is making) 🙂
Of course all the elements has to be there like Christmas/new year release, no compition, etc…
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July 13, 2016 at 8:07 PM
“I did not reference you & did not have you in mind when making that comment.”
Lol.. I guess only Krrish said 400 crore. Not sure who else predicted anything else apart from Krish and me. Personally I do no predictions and after watching it 1st day, I said it will do “around 300 crores” and after watching 2nd time on Saturday, I said it will do 350 as there was huge public reaction and majority of my family/friends loved it.
I think its fair to say it will still do around 300 crores.
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July 13, 2016 at 1:18 PM
I think film has a good chance of getting 350+ despite average performance in weekdays.Front loading in the extended weekend has affected the collections by 25-30%, people who would have watched in the weekdays have already seen it in the extended weekend. In addition repeat viewing will come forth in the second weekend only. I expect 45 crore + in two days Saturday and sundray. 2nd week should close around 75-80 crores. WOM is pretty good for the film. I haven’t met a single person who has disliked the film, though some have issues with the second half.
As for Aamir Dangal will be the decider. If it crosses Sultan then his supremacy over the box office can’t be questioned because He is the whole sole behind the movie. The director doesn’t boast of a great record neither it’s a big franchise. People have questioned his stardom on the basis of these two factors. If he succeeds without these he will be a winner but if doesn’t then people need to accept that he is definitely a lesser star then Salman. Quality and trending is a different thing altogether.
I believe that if Dangal is a well made film then 400 crores is on.Aamir has clearly mentioned that it’s a mainstream film so therefore there should not be any doubt regarding commercial viability of the subject.
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July 13, 2016 at 1:25 PM
I think people are in consensus 45 crore (or may be more) over the weekend. But it is difficult to do 75 in week. Why? Suppose it is doing 10 on friday. It probably will be doing 5 on monday. It will be more like 60 week. Based on what I am seeing 10 is difficult on friday.
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July 13, 2016 at 1:40 PM
Not very reliable these days, but still a trade person –
PJ @Prakashjaaju 12h12 hours ago Mumbai, India
#Sultan : First Week ends on 210 Cr.
Second week starts today …
PJ @Prakashjaaju 12h12 hours ago
My prediction of further business of #Sultan : From Today : 10,10,10,15,25,6,6,5,4 = 91 .. 210+91 …. 301 Cr in 2 weeks & 2 days.
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July 13, 2016 at 2:03 PM
25 on Sunday?
Is it Christmas or New year this sunday? 🙂
I think from today:
10 + 9 + 8 + 9 + 10 + 5 + 5 + 4 = 60
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July 13, 2016 at 2:12 PM
Generally this has been a liked movie by average movie going audience and for it to trend one needs to be patient as we are only in the first week. We should give a verdict only on August 1 when 3 weeks are over. Would also say this movie has potential to get a decent innings in B &C centres in small towns and districts so domestic lifetime may pull on further.
Below are the numbers for BB and PK. The Christmas / New Year loss has already been made up by Sultan due to front loading so I still feel movie has a shot go beyond BB and PK.
Two weeks total:
BB 272.28 cr
PK 278.53cr
Three weeks total:
BB 302.34 cr
PK 320.14 cr
Weekend four total:
BB 310.03cr
PK 328.79cr
Remaining weeks:
BB: 10.45cr
PK: 11.81cr
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July 13, 2016 at 2:23 PM
but why does this ‘wait and watch’ attitude come in only when the numbers start getting lower? Why not the same when all sorts of predictions are made after one or two days? Secondly while anything is possible there is also something called ‘experience’ in these matters.
Of course 20 crores still separate BB from PK. Personally I have my doubts that Sultan will even touch BB.
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July 13, 2016 at 3:01 PM
All I can say it needs Tendulkar batting on weekend
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July 13, 2016 at 2:37 PM
addatoday.com @addatoday 3h3 hours ago
#Sultan 8th Day (2nd Wednesday) Collection Early Trends. Steady! http://www.addatoday.com/2016/07/sultan-8th-day-2nd-wednesday-collection.html … @BeingSalmanKhan @AnushkaSharma
On an aside, Salman needs to come out and promote the movie. Just by being visible will add 30/40 cr to the final total.
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July 13, 2016 at 2:41 PM
“On an aside, Salman needs to come out and promote the movie. Just by being visible will add 30/40 cr to the final total.”
yeah what a loser.. 30 crores here, 40 crores there.. with more visibility Sultan could get to 500.
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July 13, 2016 at 2:44 PM
as an aside BOI forgot to update for Tue even as they’re busy talking about week 1. On that note I can only repeat part of a comment from last week:
“If it was an end of the world event they’d say ‘the film couldn’t do 40 (or whatever) on opening day because too many people were trying to get off the planet and also some of the potential audience died in the morning therefore affecting the evening shows’, ‘Salman is still the top opener for all films released on the day the world ends’.”
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July 13, 2016 at 2:46 PM
for the record I still don’t have a problem with Sultan crossing PK. but that’s not what the debate is about (for me).
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July 13, 2016 at 2:06 PM
I’m lower than 60 cr for whole week
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July 13, 2016 at 9:55 PM
Friday wont be more than 8 crores in any case. But I am expecting a huge jump on Saturday and Sunday . These two days should bring around 40-42 crores, besides this film will be more steady in its second weekend.
One more thing Eid is the best period to release the film and this year in a way 6th and 7th both were holiday. We have seen in the past too that films like Kick , CE , ETT have maintained good collections for 5-6 days because it’s an extended holiday period, the euphoria is at its zenith resulting in maximisation of collection in those days. A holiday coming on 7th or 10th day helps but not upto that extend. Sultan has fully exploited the benefit of holiday factor, final gross would have been a bit less if it would have released in new year or diwali
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July 13, 2016 at 11:18 PM
I meant film will be more steady in second week weekdays.
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July 14, 2016 at 1:12 AM
I don’t know but my Facebook feed, I haven’t seen many people going to check this movie apart from usual suspects. But for Bajrangi, there was a constant stream.
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July 14, 2016 at 2:45 AM
BB is a true blue family film. A film on wrestling that is part violent will lose some audience comparatively.
It’s losing steam on weekdays, Friday is key, needs to hold well to have a good second weekend.
Otherwise it’s trended pretty much like ETT & D3 both YRF, 10 day films mostly heavily front loaded on a bigger scale due to wider release/higher ticket prices.
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July 14, 2016 at 1:57 AM
The 2 days wont bring 42 cr, nowhere even close to it.
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July 13, 2016 at 1:44 PM
I don’t think aamir has anything to prove in Dangal. Whether it tanks or doesn’t its not going to affect his brand value a wee bit.
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July 13, 2016 at 5:46 PM
**I believe that if Dangal is a well made film then 400 crores is on.Aamir has clearly mentioned that it’s a mainstream film so therefore there should not be any doubt regarding commercial viability of the subject.**
This expectation is nothing but an attempt to set up an extremely high bar only to label it a failure later. Even if you stretch it to any commercial length, there is just no way you can put SULTAN and DANGAL on the same planet.
DANGAL is a SOCIAL FAMILY drama; not a FAMILY drama per-se. Any film that is expecting the 400 cr kind of moolah needs a LOT of commercial elements. The very genre of DANGAL demands some kind of leash on commercial elements.
When Aamir says this is a commercial film, he only means this is NOT a docu-drama or a limited-audience social-satire like PEEPLI LIVE.
Secondly, the worrying factor is NITISH TIWARI, the director. So far, Aamir, post-Mela [except DHOOM, but that was a success commercially and it is like a junk-food franchise], hasn’t gone wrong in script-selection or the assignment of a director. But Nitish Tiwari is a very ordinary director except his outing with CHILLAR PARTY. BR was watchable in parts and elevated by Amitabh.
All these indicate there’s no way this is going to be on the same platform as SULTAN…
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July 13, 2016 at 9:43 PM
Well Aamir has done it quite a number of times in past , his records speaks for himself. How many people expected Ghajini to cross 100 crores. 3 idiots wasn’t a pure masala film but it went on to do 200+ . PK again wasn’t a pure masala was the first 300+ grosser and that too when the WOM wasn’t great. These all figures show that market has the potential but the current crop of stars excluding hasn’t been able to exploit it to the fullest. Only 3 idiots in the past 15 years is a true ATBB rest all have been awarded this status because trade didn’t expected those sort of numbers or rather they gave a glimpse on the potential of the market.
The promotion has already started for the film. The film is releasing during Christmas (though there are no extra holidays during Christmas ), if the product is well made then anything is possible because repeat audiences are always there for these type of movies
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July 13, 2016 at 9:01 AM
Anupama Chopra @anupamachopra 7h7 hours ago
#AarfaWonHearts and @AnushkaSharma can explain why. She talks about #Sultan and her future on #FCFaceTime at 2 pm
Anupama Chopra @anupamachopra 4h4 hours ago
Be it a film with @diljitdosanjh or acting with @iamsrk, @AnushkaSharma always backs herself
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July 13, 2016 at 10:57 AM
Akshay Kumar has been on a film signing spree. While the recently released trailer of Rustom has been creating waves, the actor has announced yet another film that he will be a part of.
Akshay Kumar will feature yet again in the Hindi remake of a South blockbuster. The film in question is the A R Murugadoss directorial Katthi which starred Vijay which has been retitled as Ikka in Hindi and will be directed by Murugadoss’ associate Jagan. Focusing on the current situation of the farmer suicides, the film will have Akshay in a double role, one of a thug and the other of a post graduate in Hydrology. Earlier, Akshay Kumar has featured in remakes like Rowdy Rathore and Holiday, which are remakes of Telugu film Vikramarkudu and Tamil film Thuppaki respectively. Interestingly, this is also the second time Akshay Kumar will be replacing Vijay in a film (Thuppaki starred Vijay in the lead role).
Confirming about the same, Akshay revealed that he will start shooting for the remake of the South film after wrapping up the schedule of other films like Rustom, Robot 2.0 and Namastey England.
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July 13, 2016 at 11:05 AM
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July 13, 2016 at 2:46 PM
Super pic!!
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July 13, 2016 at 3:03 PM
Indeed..
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July 13, 2016 at 2:47 PM
Time for some spam –
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July 14, 2016 at 2:33 AM
On Wednesday, Sultan collected Rs. 10.8 crore* more at the Box Office and its overall collections so far stand at Rs. 219.62 crore*. While these are superb numbers by all means if one considers the strike rate that the film has maintained during last 8 days (~Rs. 27.5 crore per day), the numbers have seen a relative decline w.r.t. what one expected after a stupendous weekend. The trend had indicated that an average of Rs. 15 crore would be maintained on each of the weekdays as well. However, since that hasn’t really happened, one doesn’t see the film earning an extraordinary total which once seemed possible.
This means that all the talks of the Salman Khan starrer actually aiming for that elusive Rs. 400 crore mark have vanished. However, the film still has a chance for the Rs. 300 crore total. Salman Khan already has one to his name in Bajrangi Bhaijaan [Rs. 321 crore] while Anushka Sharma sits on the top with P.K. [Rs. 340.8 crore]. Incidentally, these are also the two highest scoring films of all time and the respective lead protagonists have come together in Sultan to bring it the third position at the least.
While this Yash Raj film is set to be their biggest ever, hence surpassing Dhoom 3 [Rs. 284 crore], the first major milestone for Sultan would be to cross the Rs. 300 crore mark. It is possible since the film’s competition during next couple of weeks is Great Grand Masti [July 15] and Madaari [July 22]. Post that there is Dishoom [July 29] but if Ali Abbas Zafar has to enter the Rs. 300 Crore Club, it would anyways happen by then.
Stay tuned as next few days are going be quite exciting for the industry to truly gauge that when huge records are scored on the first day, first weekend and first week, how much steam is actually left for a film for an all time high score as well.
*Estimates. Final collections awaited
Bollywoodhungama
http://www.bollywoodhungama.com/box-office/special-features/id/734
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July 14, 2016 at 7:10 AM
http://www.indicine.com/movies/bollywood/sultan-box-office-collections-8-days/
Using producer totals, his website thinks Friday could be 5-6cr & lifetime is vying more with D3 than BB/PK, I think it should get close to 300cr plus or minus 10cr.
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July 14, 2016 at 10:19 AM
Aamir’s totals have become the Moby Dick-like white whales that everyone likes to hunt down though they never can. Remember how long the 3I 200 crore thing went on? Eventually of course the initial becomes big enough to do this but that hardly proves anything. And I must say I enjoy people squirming over this. Not because I have a problem with Sultan or any other film breaking PK’s record but that these debates are just not honest in most cases.
I’ll also say this again, whether one likes Sultan or not I just don’t think it’s a reasonable opinion to prefer it to Bajrangi. It could have been the kind of film that made such a comparison possible. But for what it is it’s just poor stuff for the most part. On paper it had more elements to enable it to become a really massive grosser, one that could keep up the pace of the initial, much more than Bajrangi which didn’t have all the Salman masala in the true sense and eventually became much more of a family film. Not that there’s anything wrong with this but the core Salman fan base probably wants more excitement than that.
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July 14, 2016 at 3:31 AM
Central Cinema had screened the movie on July 6 to a 100-member audience; owners and staff have been booked
http://www.mid-day.com/articles/great-grand-masti-at-malegaon-nine-days-before-release/17431164
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July 14, 2016 at 4:09 AM
The release date of highly anticipated action-comedy Golmaal Again has been announced. The fourth installment of the Golmaal series will be releasing in Diwali 2017. This is the 7th collaboration between director Rohit Shetty and actor Ajay Devgn, the two has previously worked together on films like Zameen, Golmaal, Golmaal Returns, Singham, Golmaal 3 and Singham Returns.
Golmaal 4 will have Tusshar Kapoor, Kunal Kemmu, Arshad Warsi and Shreyas Talpade reprising their roles. The film might star a new actress opposite Ajay Devgn, since Kareena Kapoor Khan is due to deliver her first child in December and the shoot of the film is scheduled to start in October.
Because of Golmaal Again, Ajay has decided to put the sequel of Son of Sardaar on the back burner. Initially he had decided to book the Diwali slot for the sequel of Son of Sardaar, but now Golmaal 4 will be officially releasing on Diwali 2017.
Ajay Will start the shooting of the film after the release of his ambitious project Shivaay, which is set to hit the screens on 28th October this year.
http://www.koimoi.com/bollywood-news/ajay-devgn-starrer-golmaal-4-to-release-in-diwali-2017/
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July 14, 2016 at 7:15 AM
Sultan had another huge day as it put ap around 11 crore nett on its eight day. The drops are 15% on the weekdays which is little higher than normal as its an extended week and it is coming off a huge holiday period. Despite normal tiket rates rates the Wednesday figures are similar to Airlift day one (weekend ticket rates) which was the biggest hit of 2016 before Sultan. It shows how big Sultan is compared to what has come before this year. The collections of Sultan till date are as follows.
Friday – 36,59,00,000
Thursday 37,25,00,000
Friday – 31,50,00,000
Saturday – 36,50,00,000
Sunday 38,25,00,000
Monday – 15,50,00,000
Tuesday – 13,00,00,000
Wednesday – 11,00,00,000 apprx
http://www.boxofficeindia.com/report-details.php?articleid=2156
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July 14, 2016 at 11:08 AM
Taran’s
#Sultan Wed 36.54 cr, Thu 37.32 cr, Fri 31.67 cr, Sat 36.62 cr, Sun 38.21 cr, Mon 15.54 cr, Tue 12.92 cr, Wed 10.82 cr. Total: ₹ 219.64 cr.
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