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Let’s begin one again Sanjana
And we all become Aamirsfan
To Master the world of entertainment
By watching Jolly LLB2 next week.
#8 Days to go
Message to Aamir Khan- why do you put all your eggs in the same basket. Once the omlette is made, basket remains empty for years. Fans get hungry. Hungry stomach causes Nasha. Nashe mein log ladte hai aur baaki enjoy karte hain.
Message to SRK – Become vegetarian and Desi. Rename you next movie Ring. Naam se bachche Dar jaayenge ki kahin screen se SRK na baahar aa jaaye. Call it Angoothi Nikaal ke le jaayenge. 400 cr
yes both papa roshan and srk are waiting for amirs response, whats the secret behind dangal success,so srk can re-shoot the Ring and roshan can get the idea of krish 4…whats done is done with Raees & Kaabil…both celebrating the success even though a minor success…ts a success….lol
ha ha – what have we come to:-))) why group ppl like Aamir-fan / SRK-Fan etc? I am a cinema-fan and I like aamir because of body of his work but that doesn’t make me anti-srk or anti-sallu or anti-akki!! I have liked their works also at times – and each one has a choice and opinion – and that is how such blogs exist – if we pick up silly fights then the fun to contribute and read what others put up here goes away….come on guys – be mature – except for abusive language – u can write whatever u want here as far as it does not distract too much from Cinema…..
In just 8 days, there is a differential of 20 cr between Kaabil’s producer total (85 cr) and BOI’s (65 cr). Such difference of 20 cr existed for Red Chillies’ CE & HNY for their entire run – not in one week!
Roshans play this game at a different level altogether. And BOI perhaps gives the lowest possible estimates for Kaabil, Bang Bang, Krrish etc. Quite a pair these two make together.
And BOI’s rants are quite funny. Recently they went after DCH for no apparent reason whatsoever. They called it a flop or below average and that it was rejected – blah blah. IF it was not profitable with business of 20 cr or so back in 2001, then it would not have set the trend of making multiplex oriented movies for urban audience. The industry never follows a ‘rejected’ film as a trendsetter.
It’s pro Srk than Raees , clearing saying whatever Raees is doing is because of srk star power . Quiet amusing actually Aamir has given 3 consecutive All Time Grossers but never read a word of appreciation for Aamir from BOI but srk underperformer gets an excuse article that why the movie is not a big hit , srk needs a film with content and numbers would come blah blah ..
yeah they have to keep stating with every film ‘x wasn’t good on content but SRK’s star power gave it the opening’. Only fans say these sorts of things constantly!
their report today on Raees is quite the gag reel! In all sorts of ways. the lower the film’s total is projected to be (they’re now saying 130 +) the more their own ‘hits’ keep coming out!
I think the sole intention of SRK and Roshan’s has been to create the impression in the media that their film are hit films. If you start off with the end state, everything you say or do or present in terms of collections, media interaction unfortunately has to satisfy that end state.
This is pure insecurity at display. Both decided that their film is hit even before the collections are there. Many others do the same for their films. But because of clash they’ve developed a bad unprofessional mentality and really now are fighting at gutter levels. Things can’t stoop much lower.
Highly immature stuff by apparently friends on good terms.
Agreed. Their articles are so poorly written. I don’t mind their argument about Dil Chahta Hai but the quality of their articles are embarrassing. They never give the writer’s name. I wonder who writes this dross.
LMAO Rakesh Roshan (@RakeshRoshan_N) Verified 1 hour ago
RT by _beingtiger_
In view of the great response KAABIL is receiving across, exhibitors are adding up 200 PLUS new cinemas in the 2nd week.đđť#Kaabil @iHrithik
the amusing thing about all this is that Rakesh Roshan has become such a laughing stock but he keeps doing this. Not sure who this ‘fiction’ is meant to convince since everyone from the trade to people online seem to be laughing.
With Krrish he has trying to portray it as an ATBB. This time, he is trying to save his face from a complete underperformer. But instead of saving his reputation, all this ‘fixing’ has ruined his reputation. His own distributors are unhappy this time, as they will perhaps lose money.
The next Filmkarft film will be a Krrish sequel. Without a franchise film, he will find it hard to get decent diatribution price for his next – specially when his own trade friends are upset and complaining.
Amidst all this they are throwing ‘success’parties.
Watched Raees finally. Totally banal movie. Zero emotional connect. It is not a 200 CR type of movie even if released with out clash. But as a SRK fan feeling happy that after dilwale fiasco he is doing acting finally. First fan now Raees. Though I like Fan more. Fan was unadulterated movie then Robin Hood Raees.
SRK sounds very pissed off here – at trade figures that are being tracked. It almost seems like Papa Roshan speaking.
Red Chillies has a record of inflating figures (although not at Rakesh Roshan level). The difference between their figures and BOI’s numbers were 20 cr for CE and HYN, 10 cr for Dilwale. And now Raees weekdays surely look inflated by Red Chillies.
That 115 cr figure in 8 days will probably be in 105-110 cr range.
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If SRK considers himself a star n his film doesn’t do half business of Salman-Aamir’s film so he himself should call it flop for reputation.
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Top Khans films don’t become hit-Flop by profit only. Their films must do min 200Cr to be called hit. Akshay Ajay films become hit by profit
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If SRK calls himself superstar then #Raees is flop. But if he considers himself in league of Ajay Akshay then it’s a hit. So Let him decide.
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Dilwale’s business- 10Cr on Monday, 9Cr on Tuesday! Raees- 6Cr on Monday n 5Cr on Tuesday. Now you can easily understand how big flop Raees!
think the point about standards is a fair one.. some of us have been arguing for exactly this over here.. you can’t have it every which way. You can’t say he’s a big star on day 1 and then it’s all about ‘content’!
KRK tweets would make sense provided he remained impartial, an objective observer with consistency of the past. Lately all the attention seems to have gone to his bloated head as if he is the one who makes and breaks stars. Either Sanjay Gupta requested or Roshans made the effort but like Shivaay-ADHM, one fine day he is on a single track of trashing Raees. I still donât think people will throw money at this monkey & probably the egomaniac just needs to be pampered and must have assured the makers of Kaabil âme me krk will make your movie hit. Donât worry main raees ki crash kar doonga đ đ
I have seen both movies and each worse than the other and they are lucky to reach these figs considering how tough it is for rest of the movies to get to even 70-80cr. Without 5-day republic day weekend and even without a clash both would find it tough to reach 100cr. Just weekend biz cannot take movies to safety….. They are âbundle moviesâ like they use to say in old times and time pass would be an understatement for a movie like Kaabil because the plot holes get on your nerve after a while. Raees is badly edited in trying to reduce duration hence in many scenes it is difficult to justify why the characters did this or that….more like PRDP zone of abrupt edit.
On krk , may be its kjo behind the scene working for Ranbir or Hirani himself who sent sanjay dutt as some sort of emissary for Dutt biopic going by the lunch pic he put with Dutt recently to massage his ego. He is already hyping the movie in case of a anticipated clash with TZH. Salman like Ajay is straightforward and does not entertain such arseholes in the first place and least bothered on box office outcome once the movie hit the theatre. But one good thing is his antics have now become a bit more exposed and after Sultan and Dangal he had to eat shit again with biased twitter storm. Fact is eventually even after all biased applauds ADHM wrapped under 100cr.
KRKVerified account â@kamaalrkhan 7 Nov 2016
Had lunch with my favourite star Sanju Baba.
Interesting piece which clearly shows bollywood is influenced by the antics of this pompous arsehole. He is also making use of the divisions within the film industry and people using him to settle scores. This is further to my earlier Shekhar Gupta article on ills of social media and the affect on our society.
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The Dark Side of the Moon: Vikram Bhatt slams KRK for SRK
Imagine this if you will. Imagine that you have in your collection a masterpiece by the great Rembrandt. Now imagine that a fool who does not understand art convinces you that it is just a worthless piece of canvas. Now imagine that you listen to this fool and burn the painting down. Can you imagine yourself doing this?
Imagine now that you own a Model T Ford. A fabulous vintage car that a fool convinces you does not drive anymore so you should push it down the cliff. Now imagine you do this. Are you this person?
Imagine a bottle of the oldest wine. Imagine a heritage property. Imagine antiques. Imagine your parents. Imagine your grandparents. Imagine that you are throwing all this away because you feel all this is worthless. Are you this person?
If you are not, read on, for if you are, chances are you may not like this piece.
Last week we in the world of âBollywoodâ, how I hate that term, we had two films release. One was Kaabil, with Hrithik Roshan in the lead. Hrithik and I have worked together and though not a very memorable film, he shall remain one of the best human beings I have met in my life. I shall always hold him close to my heart. The second one was Raaes, with Shah Rukh Khan. I have never worked with Shah Rukh and know him only socially, a powerhouse talent though and that is not even something that needs a mention.
Cut away now, as we say in film parlance, to a man by the name of Kamaal R Khan, with whom I have had a tryst in past and while a lot of people are easily scared of him or don’t want to be at the receiving end of his malicious tweets, I for one, have never really cared about malice. Infamy has never really perturbed me. Like fame, it is only temporary, but I digress.
Quite clearly Kaamal R Khan has decided to use all his power to bring Raaes down but it does not end there. To make my case I have no choice but to paste a few of his tweets here.
Why Pak govt allowed to release #Kaabil but not #Raees? Because Pak govt wants people to watch a better film instead Ghisapita masala film.
I agree that SRK was a super star but his attitude and thinking is of Kunal Khemu. This is why he is not a super star today. Purity is must.
If you have watched #Raees and you want ur money back from SRK then RT this. If you liked the film, then like it.
By GOD Ki Kasam SRK’s success party would have come superhit in media if he could have called it #Raees flop party Instead of success party.
After flop result of #Raees, SRK has gone out of 3 Khans league n joined Ajay, Akshay, Ranbir, Hrithik n Ranveer singh. Fair enough!
Last 4 films Of SRK- #HappyNewYear- Flop, #Dilwale- Flop, #Fan- Disaster, #Raees- Flop coz it will do lifetime max 150Cr like Dilwale. If Salman khan is the hero in #Raees then 100% it will do 200+Cr business means definitely SRK is not in the league of 3Khans anymore.
Hey SRK fans if SRK is in league of Ajay-Akshay then #Raees is hit n if he is 3rd Khan then #Raees is super flop. Now decide what tag u want
Hey dear SRK fans, you RT this tweet to accept that now SRK is in the league of Ajay n Akshay not 3 Khans n I will declare #Raees super hit.
I am sure you get an idea from these tweets, what I am about to say, yet do stick with me for a bit more.
A lot of people around me are rolling their eyes as I write this piece. They complain that this is not my problem. Shah Rukh does not need a piece from me and it will make no difference to the great KRK. They are probably right but they are wrong to say that this is not my problem. This is my problem, it very much is my problem and if you don’t get why, scroll up and read again.
My Grandfather sat me down on his lap when I was little and shared with me an insight that never leaves me. He said, âVikram, there are two kinds of people. One, that seek fame and power with their immense talent and ability. The other, more dangerous kinds, are the ones who want to smear the first kind to seek power and fame.â
I believe, you can be one of the two. A person who gets ahead by getting ahead or a person who wants to get ahead by pulling others behind. The second kind never really stays forever for they can, at best, bask in the reflected glory. The glory of the ones who are ahead. The first kind can easily do without the second but the second kind needs the first, for it needs succesful people to attack. Without anyone to attack they lose their importance.
This man calls himself a critic, but don’t be fooled by that, for he is not. He is a slander machine and gets ahead by that very same slander.
If you should read the tweets and there are many more on his tweet timeline, you will see a pattern emerge. This man called KRK is not reviewing a film, he wants to systematically attack the stardom of Shah Rukh Khan. Not that it makes a difference to Shah Rukh Khan but it does, as I said to me.
I do know that icon making and breaking has been the most primitive past time for most but pause here, for pause we must undertand this, a legend is a legend and we cannot standby when someone is trying so hard to bring one down. For the legend does not care but the legend belongs to us and we must care for our legends, like we would care for all things of great value around us. If we standby and watch this schoolyard bully tarnish our legends for his personal gain then we are the fools who are burning the Rembrandt, throwing the Model T of the cliff and disrespecting all things that only grow in value with every passing day.
Success and failures are not people, they are only incidents. In a fast changing universe, they are daily occurences. Use that for slander and you are just an arrogant fool with a ridiculous level of self importance.
I am proud of my legends be it Amitabh Bachchan, Salman Khan, Shah Rukh Khan, Aamir Khan or the lesser known ones today of the bygone era. They are the greats and they will remain the greats. Should my or rather our legends not see a single succesful film from today, they will still remain legends. Like the other priceless things they get more priceless with each passing day.
I don’t care if no one should stand with me on this. Attack my legends and I will attack you Mr-Self-proclamined-Critic! I will not let you be the primordial barbarian trying to bring my temples down. I shall mud wrestle with you and bury you in that very same mud!
For all those who still don’t agree, please refer to the tweet below. Can you stand by and watch this happen to the greatest of all legends who gave us our freedom?
Incidentally Taran and Komal have stopped tweeting about both films. And Nahta a couple of days ago was talking about Raees breaking records in Singapore. Nothing about India. Whether it’s them or BOI or whoever it’s not the dishonesty that offends me as much as the sheer stupidity with which it is practiced. Let me put it this way, if I were a star and wanted a propaganda machine these guys or BOI wouldn’t make it to my list. I wouldn’t want dumb folks doing the job.
If one looks at the final grosses of SRK’s last 3-4 films – Dilwale, Fan, DZ and Raees – he is surely in Akshay’s bracket now? Why place him at Aamir/Salman level?
I was not referring to verdicts, just the final grosses being in the same range.
Verdicts can be given based on different parameters and differs from person to person. For example – BOI calls Dilwale a semi-hit movie, you are calling it a flop.
that’s going too far.. Akshay rarely crosses 100-120 these days even with very commercial films. not referring to stuff like Rustom (though the problem precisely is that whether it’s Houseful or Rustom he’s more or less in the same range these days). In any case those are considered hits for Akshay no questions asked. Where I do think the fans are foolish is that by calling films like Dilwale or whatever semi hits or hits they actually do the opposite — they reduce SRK’s standing. Then there are all these games about ‘he was only trying to get 100’ or what have you. When the films fail they’re either ‘bad content’ or they’re ‘good content but not for families’. You add it all up and it’s a lot of excuses! Ultimately there’s no running away from reality. HNY if it released today probably wouldn’t cross 150. Because there is a relative decline even in this sense over time. SRK fans have been waiting for the big one for him forever. Irrespective of genre it just never happens. CE was an exception (even this didn’t threaten anyone else’s records). A star in decline can still put up good opening numbers but it is the follow-through that the problems always come up. It’s happened to much greater stars than SRK.
One can expect inconsistencies from fans, but its objectionable when a trade site like BOI does the same. They call everything under the sun from RaOne to Don2 to JTHJ or MNIK as clean hits, irrespective of their grosses in India, and then claim SRK is one of the biggest superstars around.
What’s the point by posting KRK tweets? Why are you bent upon degrading the crediablity of this blog? KRK is the most pathetic creature on this planet and sensible souls like yourself need to stay away from such people.
“”Ultimately, film-making is difficult. Sometimes, we can go wrong, but I would still want to follow my own creative instinct, and do films that excite me. When I hear a script, I pretend to be the audience at that time. If it excites, touches or moves me, then I want to be part of it.” – Aamir
Re.- I have been here since the inception of this blog & very emotionally attached as I have got to learn inmensely from the members of this blog especially Satyam.
I am so deeply hurt man, Hum kya yahan moongfali baant rahe hain ?? LOL
Aside- don’t be so mad, ignore the trolls and move on , but don’t stop commenting here .
Hey Meselfaamir – now that Basanti aa gayee hai, Dhanno bhee aa hee jao !!!
here is a joke to make you come back-
Punjabi to a Haryanvi grocery seller- “Bhai LitP tan dee Chaha hai ??”
Haryanvi – Bhai mainney toh nah hai, tanney hai toh lipat jaa …..
Sanjana , My Samachar.com !!
Bloddy hell – you can’t leave !!
who is going to provide us all the news from JNY, Troll.com, Halfakingston.com, etc. ?? LOL
never ever imagined the two most cool minded person – Aamir and Sanjana to suddenly get so riled up.
actually missed the Sanjana thing earlier. Thanks for bringing it up.
So this is addressed to Sanjana.. do not leave! The same to Aamirsfan.
Again I’ll only repeat what Munna said.. both comments were eventually removed.. but c’mon guys no one monitors the blog 100% of the time. And things sometimes get missed. Once there’s a complaint the comments are usually removed. There’s no need to leave. Just remember if you do you’re making the world less safe for Aamir fans! Ha! Just kidding..
Nobody has to leave as everyone contributes in some way to blog. We may not like each other but that is okay till we are respectful to each other. It is also fact that we lose temper and say things which we retrospectively regret because we are not that person.
Hopefully myselfaamir, Sanjana and Master keep on commenting.
I don’t know what these specific comments were, and I am sure it has hurt one or two members. Sometimes things go out of control and angry words are exchanged, but unless a member is truly vicious and being an annoyance in general, I think it is best to ignore and move on.
All the two-three members involved in this small little drama are intelligent, respectful members. Yes, they might like one star a little more than the other, but they all make reasonable comments and act in good faith. I engage a lot with Master even if I hold a different view, because I think he is ultimately reasonable. When i don’t argue/engage with someone, it is probably because it is not worth it. We’re on different planes and I rather enjoy their comments for the entertainment and variety they bring to the blog.
The blog has always been more cerebral than other filmy blogs you will find. The result is, yes, you will have more takers and sympathizers for Aamir, Raju Hirani, Mani Ratnam and alternative/sensible cinema as opposed to Salman, Akki and Rohit Shettys of the world. That should change, given both Akki and Salman are now doing good films. Shah Rukh is in the middle. He’s always considered a premium star on any level.
Considering the obvious ideological leaning of the blog, I do think it is vital to have a good enough representation of fans of all kind of stars and films. Not those who indulge in rabid, puerile fan-talk but those who can bring balance when the scales tilt too much in favour of one particular star (in this case Aamir.) It makes the blog entertaining and more alive!
In view of that, there’s no harm if one is a little lenient and gracious towards members of stars who are not adequately represented. I always believe the majority has to look the other way sometimes to make people feel welcome.
I have such high expectations in terms of humour with AIB that I was in fact a bit disappointed with this SRK episode. The AIB chaps seemed too much in awe and were behaving life fan boys. SRK also wasn’t particularly funny. I know some people have liked it a lot, so I want others to see it and back me up here đ
I liked it overall, but I wasn’t floored the way some people have been. The setting was special – SRK’s home.
Same here even I found it forced. Maybe it was a different experience for Rocky if he was listening only. But I watched it on Youtube and srk body language again suspect in trying to sound and be cool.
The day he stops trying he is going to get back to his flair and real natural self. This is the thing with big stars – they don’t realise they are naturally gifted and even if they just remain their usual self, that is sufficient to cast magic spell on screen. It is the same for Dilip Kumar, Bachchan, SRK, Aamir, Salman all of them. I think complication arise when they start to get conscious of their stardom / success or ( sense of humor in this instance ) and feel they have broken the code of their fame. Later in trying to cling to the same reputation, their insecurities make them chase their own personage. Whereas the truth of the matter is just their inherent natural gift is sufficient to do the job and any more effort then becomes a diversion and comes across as forced.
Lol. Honestly, I think only SRK can carry this kind of interviews and its right up his alley. Aamir and Salman doesn’t have ‘this’ kind of humor to deal with AIB folks.
It’s not about whether other stars can carry off AIB humour or not. I just didn’t find it particularly funny. I preferred him on the Kapil Sharma show. He wasn’t joking but his reactions to others’ jokes are spontaneous and genuine.
Master, one has a right to not be floored by something!
Unfortunately I watched the video hence found comic timing all wrong. Body language and movement of shoulders all over the placeâŚâŚ face and expressions donât gel with the jokesâŚlike I said above â âsuspect in trying to sound and be coolâ There is a difference between genuine humor and sounding a wannabe.
True please do let me have the right not to be floored with anything and everything.
Dhoni to be honest the interview did not even need the a$$ holes of AIB, they were just there as furniture.
SRK did most of the talking.
The AIB gang is so overrated and biased that had a “Bhakt” not recommended the podcast, I would not even have listened to it.
Yahee diference hai Bhakt and tards mein !!!
Sandyi, I’m surprised to hear this. I think after long time SRK was completely relaxed as this was shot 27th Jan and he was relieved Raees opened well and let his hair down. Also this AIB Podcast is not always hilarious and its more of interview with fun and for that it was very entertaining.
Just some highlights in this thread and you’ll recollect the his 1-liners. This is just from Part 1. Easy for folks to read this who have not seen the video or heard the audio.
So last week’s thread was about SRK bashing.
This week is about salvaging him.
Guys- SRK is a very big star. Aamir needs a Dangal to stay on top, SRK doesn’t. What Aamir has been doing this decade, SRK did it and was ahead of the curve. Am not trying to pull down Aamir. Just giving my perspective.
Raees is a Hit based on its cost. Simple.
When people like KRK try to spin a story and is selectively lauded by few here, smell a rat.
Tomorrow if Aamir makes a film for RS 1 cr and that movie makes 1.5 cr the same brigade with change their stand to cost based Hits.
Till then enjoy Raees. And yes, Kaabil is a success too. Would have loved to see it becoming a hit, but sad it got squeezed in a clash.
What Aamir has been doing this decade, SRK did it and was ahead of the curve.
@naveen,when did srk gave 5 ATHG in 6 movies.i want to know and out of those 5,4 are ATBB’s as well and 3 are critically acclaimed par excellence and 2 are the most critically acclaimed movies after lagaan in last 15-16 yrs.
Excuse me- delivering all time grossers is not the only criteria to be a Topnstar.
Fortunately I was born to see glimpses of Amitabh’s stardom which remains unmatched.
Then saw Sanjay Dutt becoming craze of the nation while I was learning to wear diapers.
Then Aamir Khan was launched in a big way and enjoyed 10 months of extraordinary debut till Maine Pyar Kiya happened for Salman Khan.
Then Deewana came and for a long time since then and till Ghajini, SRK was mostly the top star. From Ghajini Aamir took over from SRK and never looked back. Dabangg happened and since then Salman has mostly given blockbusters (all but one).
Despite all this SRK body of work is so huge that his stardom is extraordinary. Lots of his films are absolute gem. I love him more than Aamir and less than Salman and AKSHAY. All this with very little degree of difference and to the extent that I enjoy all of their movies.
Don’t like bringing down one star to promote another. I am no saint but try to be sane.
You are right…WTH was I thinking: BO numbers to decide who the top star is….stupid stupid stupid.
I love that you now bring in Bachchan, Sanjay Dutt, Aamir, Salman, and SRK to the argument. Not sure what ALL THAT has to do with Aamir’s last 8 years to ANY SRK 8 years. Again, SRK was a box office force BUT he never EVER EVER came close to what Aamir is doing right now. Also, his ‘lots of gem films’ have nothing to do with his box office pull. Nawazuddin Siddiqui has given LOTS of great performances lately but would you make him a TOP star right now?
This is not about bringing down any star but please get your facts straight…or at least make an attempt.
amir needs a Dangal to stay on top, SRK doesnât.
@naveen,wah kya logic hai.aamir has to deliver another ATHG and ATBB after 4 out his last 5 movies r ATHG to stay on top(before dangal),while SRK doesn’t need anything to stay on top even after last 8 out of 9 films being underperformers(before raees).
I am really sorry and It was an impulsive decision on my part to stand with myselfaamir who was trying to be heard. He is quite a level headed guy and rarely he jumps the gun.
I am back to my mayka that is SS. Hope he will be back. I dont hold grudges for more than 10 minutes against anyone as life is too short and cant be wasted over trivial things like fan wars or blog wars.
– Call PK a FLOP the day it was released…then later claim that it was a joke
– believing that Robot 2 would make 700 CR? 800 CR? because the greatest BO draw of all time Akshay Kumar is in it
– believing Jolly LLB2 wil get to ‘200 CR if it has good songs’
Honestly never issue with Sanjana and I would never talk disrespectful to a female either. She just got pissed when I replied her ‘back stabbing’ comment with an example of Aamir’s similar action he did long back. For that she blindly supported 1 side and took over Aamir bandwagon and trying to support another another Aamir fan.
I just want to put this out for folks who might think that I spoke something about her as well in my deleted comments. She was nowhere in the picture or topic.
200 screens r adding for dangal in week7 insane.cld cross 375 cr in hindi version alone.btw dangal crosses 30m$ in overseas.why is there no update on dangal FF by BOI?cld cross border FF of 3.70 cr.on lighter note raees screens r being reduced.
Bollywood star Hrithik Roshan says that like any normal person, he too has been in situations where he has lost all hope. But he sees such adversities are god-given opportunities to become an improved person, one who understands life and the world better.
“They (good or bad times) affect me just like they affect anybody else. I become very comfortable with my adversities because of a few philosophies that I believe in. I never take anything too seriously.
“When you face adversity, god is giving you an opportunity to become a better person, a better character, more informed and educated about your life and the world,” Hrithik told IANS in a telephonic interview from Mumbai.
The 43-year-old, a father of two, says it has taken him almost half his life to realise that he is an adventurer at heart.
“I am an adventurer who can’t end up doing the same things every day. An adventurer explores and goes places where he is afraid of going, and this holds true for me as an actor as well,” he said.
The actor’s struggle to overcome a stammer during his growing-up years, a broken marriage with childhood sweetheart Sussanne Khan and his legal battle with actress Kangana Ranaut — these have been some of the phases in Hrithik’s life which grabbed public and media attention. But his charisma has remained intact for his fans.
This has been proved once again with the success of his latest release “Kaabil”. The film had a box office clash with Shah Rukh Khan-starrer “Raees”, but it has managed to mint nearly Rs 80 crore in the seven days since its release.
Asked if the film could have done better business if not released with the superstar’s film, Hrithik said what matters is “not the gold”.
“What matters is if you are putting your 100 per cent in the work,” he said, adding: “One important thing I have learnt from this (box office clash), and something I have been teaching my kids, is that the gold is not important; what is important is to run at your best.”
“Kaabil” is a revenge drama involving a visually-challenged couple. Hrithik plays a man whose wife (Yami Gautam) is raped, and he sets out to seek revenge.
The rape scene and the incident’s effect on the victim — who commits suicide — have not been received too well by some.
Defending the film, Hrithik said it’s not negative at all.
“This is the depiction of human reality… Where sometimes in our life, (even) I felt that there is no reason to go on. (You feel) so low and down that you fail to see any prospect of a happy future. Many of us have been through adversities where it seems like ‘This is the end and one can’t go on’. While some of us succumb to it, some of us don’t.
“This is the story of a simple, sweet girl who goes through so much, not once, but twice — and she unfortunately succumbs to it. On the other hand, it is also the story of a man who fights for justice, love, life, truth, and that is the brightness. After something bad, the good happens, and this is what the film is all about.
“Adversity is very important to bring out the victory at the end, just like in life,” said the actor who was also appreciated for his roles in “Bang Bang”, “Krrish”, “Koi Mil Gaya” and “Jodhaa Akbar”.
So, what next after “Kaabil”?
“Everything is undecided right now. I haven’t signed any film. I liked a few scripts. Will take some time to decide,” he signed off.
I feel the Boxoffice is now defining how we become Fanboys. Its the same thing with Apple/Android, ManIU/Arsenal etc etc. Basically there are 2 things. The Boxoffice of today that you see in comments of site like Indicine, BollyArena etc is all about this new trend about general interest in 100 cr -300cr etc. Look at the youtube videos of the Audience Verdict , every one is giving out comments like Trade Analyst, itna nahi karegi, clash hai and non holiday hai etc etc.
I cannot completely blame the industry wherein the sentiment or mood of a film is based on perception and what is being talked about . I have liked Aamir and then Hrithik consistently. However when i used to like Aamir was due to his underdog scenario of doing films and probably losing the media perception and then Hrithik. Now recently for past few years i have liked SRK, since the perception for me is his being underdog and trying way too hard for his films.
for Salman its on and off. When i see him in Big Boss, thats splendid but when i see him in other interviews and sometimes in movies, i completely shut down on him. Out of all the blockbusters BB and to an extent Sultan is a good body of work for him and he has now realized this, thats why it seems he is now more content focussed. But him getting close to SRK (or rather sRK using Salman) is again casting clouds on the movie.
See for Past 10 years, 2007 + (CDI came in that year). SRK’s perception has become one of shouting top of his lungs in media, over promotion, extra reach and all this for Sub Par films. Thats the biggest dent for him with Neutral Audiences. They see through these tactics now.
As far as this portal, i feel its too Aamir leaning and we need good diversity on members to have punches across the aisle.
No updates on Wednesday collections? Might have crashed. The way these two movies are going, Dangal might start scoring more from next weekend onwards.
BOI articles as usual are so lame and joke. Many times during the same articles itself they look confused.
With all the recent stuff happening on the blog, I’m not leaving but certainly slowing down henceforth. That’s the reason I posted few comments today and end this awkwardness. Will be around..
I’m truly overwhelmed by the love & support of the fellow members of this blog for me, felt really touched & special đ
Rocky Dada your message left me in splits, love you & want to clear your doubt that when I talked of learning, it was from all the members including you & feel sorry if that hurt you đ
Thanks galore Sanjana for standing by my side & even going to such an extreme decision of leaving, I’m deeply moved & grateful to you for your immense support đ
Thanks very much Jay for your support & care, means a lot to me đ
Thanks Naveen & livewire for infusing wit & humour in such heavy times & making me feel “wanted” despite our diffrences of opinions đ
Thanks Sandy, aamirsaurabh & belphegorjanak for your sensible comments.
But I’d like to add one thing that it’s not about anything personal against Master or any other member but just asking for a fair verdict as abusing or use of foul language should never be tolerated regardless of any situation & the abusive comment by Master was there for a long time but nothing was done, so after a while I purposely retorted in the same colourful language which Munna Sir read in a flash & deleted without warning Master for initiating it! And despite my repeated attempts to make him understand my indignance, he kept treating both comments as equal which riled me up as I was made to feel & look like an offender & being equated for something I was forced to retaliate! Master in his earlier comment had termed An Jo dumb as well which was personal & insulting both yet Munna Sir didn’t intervene at that point! And it was more to do with Master’s brashful & brazen behaviour as he continues to be unalologetic
I will pause to criticize BOI again. To say the bromance in this film may have inspired some crap but also Hirani’s film like Munnabhai’s and 3 Idiots rely greatly on friendship, bromance & humour of this kind. So I’m unclear on their tirade. Even Kal Ho Na Ho incorporated this between SRK and SAK. RDB has electric elements too. Maybe DCH was slightly ahead of its time when multiplex culture was just on the horizon, but if a similar film released now it would ROAR in the multiplexes. The focus was too heavy on the corporates and Imtiaz Ali’s of the world. He’s a good director anyway.
i don’t agree with BOI at all abt DCH.If it releases today,min 170-180 cr wld be done.they have somewhat been proved wrong as they were excited abt raees being a massy affair still result is there in front of everyone which is in contradiction with their expectations of Raees BO.i guess they have somewhat been proved wrong with raees
Myselfaamir – I normally don’t read all comments (I am almost sure that is true for Satyam as well). I read yours, then I saw what Master has written. Ideally I think members, if they don’t like something, should draw attention of moderators. If nothing happens say after significant time then I think it is a problem.
as he continues to be unapologetic & regretful for his abusive comments even once & keeps justifying his comments under the pretext of my comment being personal to him!!
I have never used abuse as my weapon to win in this game of one upmanship nor will in the future but responding the person in the same language can sometimes become the necessity to drive the point home & my comment in response to Master was exactly in that spirit rather than meaning it literally.
Diversity & inclusiveness are 2 of the key cornerstone to progress & growth & I’m a strong believer of it. SS is testimony to this axiom which has fans of different stars vying to prove the superiority of their favourites to other stars. And that is the beauty of this blog which gives space as much to dissenting voices as much as like-minded fans & I hope it to remain this way by giving this platform to each and every one however contrasting views & opinions they might espouse.
Thanks again every one for their love & support đ
Great to see you back Myselfaamir. Btw would have loved to read that comment and check the level of your immorality as never seen you getting riled up here..âŚ. was it deep Omkara type or mild phirangi banter.
Sit back and enjoy the ride because 2017 will unfold never seen before double dhamaka coming summer & Christmas. Critical acclaim and box-office combo ka naya tihaas racha jayega !
Glad to see you back…
Aside- Vakil ho kya? you present your case well, then do not stop presenting and repeating your arguments until the judge says- Bhai aa gayee baat samajh mein, ab rulayega kya !!!
LOL
Please don’t mind mat karna, it’s all in the Jolly LLB mood !!
Rocky Dada I’m not lawyer but learnt to defend & present cases with the experience I have gained from the SS & its members đ But thanks for being so kind.
ha! this looks like a resignation letter thanking everyone đ bhai be normal and have fun instead of getting too carried away with such senti stuff – this blog is to have fun and NOT for all this heavy-duty drama đ
It varies from person to person how he or she considers this space as for me SS is the only blog or website which I make it a point to visit at least once in a day & I’m very emotionally attached to it! So for you it might be just a fun thing but I value this space much more than just to have fun & that reflected in my write-ups subsequent to my “kaha-suni” with Master! And I thought my plea was not given the due it deserved despite my repeated attempts, so in the heat of the moment I took the decision to quit! But after so many moving messages from members, I felt the need to reciprocate my emotions for them, so I wrote “the senti resignation letter” kind of stuff to voice my feelings đđ
So itâs all done after all! Aamir Khanâs Dangal has practically broken all possible Bollywood records (barring one or two which pertained to the initial) and has now gone past the Rs. 385 crore mark. The fact that it is still collecting in the sixth week despite Raees and Kaabil playing in theatres is a testimony to the fact that the Aamir Khan starrer is still a choice for the audiences. Meanwhile, what has happened in the process is the gap that has been further widened when it comes to the next big grosser.
Here is how!
âBefore Dangal, the record for the highest grossing film was PK [2014] and that stood for a good two years. That too was an Aamir Khan starrer and had netted Rs. 340.8 crore. Now to think of it, this number couldnât even be touched by any superstar. Salman Khan came close to it with 2015 release Bajrangi Bhaijaan [Rs. 321 crore] but fell short. Later, even though his Sultan [2016] was magnificent in its initial run, eventually it too ran out of breathing space and closed at Rs. 301.5 crore. So as you can see, while Bajrangi Bhaijaan was close to Rs. 20 crore short, Sultan was almost Rs. 40 crore behind,â says a trade guru.
As for the other superstar Shah Rukh Khan, he is yet to enter the Rs. 300 Crore Club and the maximum distance he has travelled is Rs. 227 crore with Chennai Express. Now even Raees is far away from making it to this club, leave aside the Rs. 300 Crore Club and one still waits to see what âThe Ring/Rahnumaâ has in the offering.
âMeanwhile, Aamir Khan has raised the stake for the game,â the guru comments, âWhile the PK record itself was inaccessible, Aamir Khan has outdone himself with Dangal that has gone past the Rs. 385 crore mark. Now what does one do with this competition? Who will really break it? With which film? And by what margin? You need so much at hand in order to achieve such a milestone, be it fantastic content, star power, absolutely perfect release date, at least reasonably good music, a story that connects with the heartland of India as well as the urban centres, fantastic marketing, all available screens to your disposal, the works.â
Since the only man who has come closest to achieve great Box Office numbers so far is Salman Khan, all eyes are on whom to take up this challenge with his two releases in 2017.
âWill it be Tubelight or Tiger Zinda Hai? Well, which other film can we even bet on this year,â wonders an industry insider, âSalman and Kabir Khan have got it right twice over, be it Ek Tha Tiger or Bajrangi Bhaijaan. Latter in particular was a humane tale and this is what helped with a strong audience connect. One hopes that happens with Tubelight even though the only on-screen star here is Salman Khan with a heroine [Zhu Zhu] who is a Chinese. On the other hand Ali Abbas Zafar has given Sultan with Salman and he also has Katrina Kaif lending further star power. Moreover, there is a huge advantage of the sequel factor.â
Not to mention the holiday factor too. While Tubelight releases around the Eid holiday on June 23, and has a two week open period (before Munna Michael arrives on July 7), Tiger Zinda Hai has an even better release period. It hits the screens on December 22 and then has Christmas Day falling on Monday, hence giving it a four day weekend. Moreover, it has an astonishing one month open period with no release planned till January 26 when Sushant Singh Rajputâs Chandamama Door Ke hits the screens.
âThe stage is set for Salman Khan to do the honours,â the insider says, âOtherwise, it would be back to Aamir Khan to unleash something magical all over again on Diwali 2018 with Thugs of Hindostan. A Salman or a Shah Rukh definitely want to score really high by then because Aamir could well have started thinking of the Rs. 500 Crore Club with his Dhoom 3 director Vijay Krishna Acharya a.k.a. Victor and Amitabh Bachchan for Thugs of Hindostan. He is going to miss the Rs. 400 Crore Club by just a whisker with Dangal; he wonât allow that to happen with his historical affair and will go even bigger.â
Well, the ball is in Salman Khanâs court and he now needs to hit it really hard before Aamir comes back into the play!
Earlier we had reported that Shah Rukh Khan would be seen playing an important cameo in Salman Khanâs upcoming film Tubelight. Later we also brought you images of Shah Rukh Khan on sets of the film posing for the cameras. Well now we hear that SRK will in fact be seen playing the role of a magician in the film.
Though an official confirmation on the same is unavailable, our source informs us that it is a very unique character that Shah Rukh Khan is playing in the film. In fact we got some interesting scoop on SRKâs look in the film. From what we hear, Shah Rukh will be getting a temporary tattoo made on his face for his role of a magician. In fact, a meagre semblance of a tattoo can be seen over the actorâs right eye and on the cheek bone in the photographs that he had posed for earlier.
As for the film, Tubelight that is an Indo â Chinese film is directed by the Bajrangi Bhaijaan director Kabir Khan. Featuring a story set in the backdrop of the 1962 Sino-Indian War, Tubelight also stars Chinese actress Zhu Zhu alongside Salman Khan and is slated for release on June 25, 2017.
Talking about DCH, I have seen that movie 3 times in cinema hall when it was released and multiple times on TV. The only movies which I have watched more in theatre are DDLJ (it was kinda craze back then), but never watched DDLJ much on TV and Maine Pyar Kiya (I was a kid then and whatever my siblings watched I used to watch).
Today came across a post in FB on 11 best moments of DCH and couldn’t stop smiling watching that video.
I was wondering when will finally a younger actor take over the mantle of top spot from senior actors. Aamir, Salman and SRK have pretty much ruled the BO in separate or overlapping times for over 2 decades. Other actors have come and gone. Some senior actors have been on the peripheral like Akki, Hrithik and Ajay but they haven’t threatened to be at top (not for any reasonable enough time at least). The so called new crop of actors who are doing well enough have been around for a while now but don’t seem to be really threatening the top 2-3 slot anytime soon. Ranbir was a hope but seems to be a hit and miss kind of a guy and I feel he is too urban for masses to connect with him. I don’t find the rest good enough yet. In fact I think most new actors are very urban, hence totally dependent on multiplexes and have limited BO power.
Ranbir Kapoor will surely be around in top 3 for next 5-10 years. I wont like to see Ranveer Singh there evenif he is delivering BO hits. Varun and Siddharth both have promising projects lined up and they both are sincere – so they should be there in top 3. Shahid is down and out and on the way like Jr. B. Arjun Kapoor does not have it in him neither Harshvardhan or anyone else. Sushant is just like Sharman – not a solo hero material although Dhoni worked but that was because of Dhoni.
Ranveer actually seems to have a little dialogue delivery issue IMO. Whatever he speaks doesn’t sound clear or in a free flow or natural in a movie to me. Leaving how he is personally aside he is a doing good job with the tools he possesses. But he has knack of hamming.
Looking at all the BO figures floating around, it seems after extended week Raees is around 110-115 cr and Kaabil is around 75-80 cr.
Both may recover their distribution price by the end of their theatrical run. Whether they will be somewhat plus film or not, will depend on how the second weekend goes.
The producer totals for Kaabil and Raees are 90 cr and 122 cr. There is a 10 cr differential with BOI number for Raees and 20+ cr differential for Kaabil.
Whats the actual collections? Its Talaash – The answer lies within!
taran is huge srk fan and yet he stop tweeting,is he embarrassed by this all saga,komal naahta is same…since monday both films have tanked heavily …second week is just the waste week…
1. Aamir Khan – Dangal’s mega success gets him top slot
2. Salman Khan – His next release is coming in Eid which may bring him back to No 1 if that film is a Hit
3. SRK – He got a success with Raees that opened really well.
4. Akshay Kumar – Looking certain to get 4th Hit/superhit in a trot within 12 months
5. Hrithik – Is set to slide now and will be out from Top 5 by end of this year as Kaabil is barely a success and his next release is not likely to happen soon.
6. Ranbir
Basis of female star ranking?
And Raees a success…really??? SRK has a very flexible benchmark. Lucky him. Life hasn’t been so kind to others including Salman and Aamir.
SRK recent movies don’t last beyond Sunday. HNY, Dilwale, Fan and now Raees!!!! Bad content…well may be. But tbh SRK was never a content man (CE had a bad content). The day he became too old and the mushy mushy romance combined with I am such a God that I keep everyone happy even when I am dying or someone I love is dying or someone I love is already engaged and sometimes even married formula became stale, he got exposed. The guy actually hasn’t grown as an actor since 1995. Never re-invented himself. The success and over-media hype he had probably made him feel he is perfect. Infact I think he was a better actor in 90s.
Now lets not compare him with Salman’s acting skills. Salman never relied on acting. But I still think Salman is better actor than he used to be until middle of last decade.
I find Kangana & Vidya as the best in terms of acting talent, then Alia as she is talented but less body of work than the above 2 I mentioned. I think Vidya is extremely underrated as she has proved her versatility in all kinds of roles ranging from comic to emotional with utmost sincerety.
Dangal was an opportunity since her husband was one of the producer. Also she would have suited Sakshi’s role perfectly. Would have been some date issues
Raees was had a reasonable extended nine day first week of 111.75 crore nett but collections have down a lot from Monday onward and that is the problem with the film. The film has not been able to hold after a solid first five days. The film has managed to outpace the competition Kaabil easily but the lead was only by around 1 crore nett on Thursday which will mean the collections of both films will be similar in the second week. That is not really a concern as the film is already 45 crore nett ahead and the race is over but for any film dropping weekday collections is a concern as it means the film has not really worked. The drop in screens in second week is more for Raees than Kaabil with around 30-35% drop for the former and 25% drop for the latter but this is because Raees is coming off a higher number.
The film has done well in Mumbai with collections of of 35 crore nett in nine days. Actually the clash was all about Mumbai circuit as both films were always likely to be best in Mumbai as Raees is a Gujarat based film and Kaabil is a crime drama which have a market in Mumbai mainly and the lead is very comfortable for Raees with 35 crore against the 20 crore of Kaabil over nine days. The other circuits where it fared better were Nizam / Andhra, Mysore, TNK and West Bengal and here Shahrukh Khan films tend to do better anyway. The film has already nearly beaten the Dilwale number of Mumbai which was 37 crore nett as that film suffered due to the intolerance remarks in Gujarat and a strong Bajirao Mastani in Maharashtra.
The second week is going to be tough for Raees and its looking at a finish of around 130 crore nett or maybe little higher depending on where the second Friday lands.
130Cr nett will be a huge letdown for SRK now after solid first 5 days. It is as if two different movies released – one till Sunday and i thought 150cr is set and other from Monday which is now being predicted to close by 130 cr.
SRK on a downwards slide now. Media narrative doesn’t takes time to change as well. He has a big fan support base which will keep him relevant for more time than usual.
Great!! If not for SRK’s star power movie would have done 25 cr nett or so. That is the greatness of SRK. He takes subjects that are sure shot failures, produces them, spends good 2 years on them (knowing fully he doesn’t have enough years) and pulls those movies over the line by his raw star power. Absolute Genius!!
Yaa, Aamir shud try doing that sometimes..to get ppl talk about him more. Seems all these ATBBs are not working and SRK is hogging all the discussions still.. đ
It’s better to let the film talk then yourself and your fans. There is always lip service before a boxing match, stuff like I am the best / I’m gonna woop your arse etc…The loser either whines, accepts defeat or demands a rematch. The winner matches onto bigger and better things or gives the loser a rematch, usually to give him another beating.
We are just taking an opportunity to bash SRK up a bit. We spent 5 weeks of Dangal run worshipping Aamir. What else do we do, talk about him when other biggies have movie rekeases. In fact you brought up his name anyway, din’t you??
Any articles on Excel Entertainment continued failure? No I didn’t think so. All that shpeal before release has just got you back to square one. CONTENT.
The Gulf total of Raees is bigger than NA/UK/Aus combined! It is a fact that SRK has a huge Pakistani fanbase and this result just highlights it. All these past 4-5 movies have been hugely shored up by his alternate offshore fanbase.
In NA, he started the 3M club back in the early 2000s. But he is stuck at that level since then.
Will Akshay Kumar equal Shah Rukh Khan’s record with Jolly LLB 2?
Akshay Kumar is gearing up for his first release of 2017, Jolly LLB 2. The actor who recently completed 26 years in the film industry has 6 films in the coveted Rs. 100 crore club with Rustom being the last entrant.
As his next film, Jolly LLB 2 is just a week away from its release, the trade has already started the prediction game with most betting it to be Akshay Kumar’s biggest hit till date surpassing Rowdy Rathore (134 crore).
The two theatrical trailers have received a good response from the audiences and the movie is expected to record a very good start at the ticket window on 10 February 2017. If the satire manages to live onto the hype, it would become the 7th Akshay Kumar film to do over Rs. 100 crore at the Box-Office thereby equalling Shah Rukh Khan’s record.
SRK too has seven films in the coveted club with Raees being the latest entrant.
HERE’S A LOOK AT ACTORS WITH MAXIMUM 100 CRORE FILMS:
Salman Khan: 10 films
Shah Rukh Khan: 7 films
Akshay Kumar: 6 films
Aamir Khan: 5 films
Ajay Devgn: 5 films
Hrithik Roshan: 3 films
Ranbir Kapoor: 2 films
Ranveer Singh: 2 films
Varun Dhawan: 1 film
Arjun Kapoor: 1 film
Sana Khaan to play Akshay Kumar’s girlfriend in Toilet: Ek Prem Katha?
Toilet: Ek Prem Katha is a satirical take on Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s project Swachh Bharat Abhiyan. The project aims at cleaning the streets and roads and the film will portray the loopholes of how it has been taken.
The film stars Akshay Kumar and Bhumi Pednekar in the lead roles. Now, for the role of Akshay’s girlfriend, the filmmaker Shree Narayan Singh has roped in Wajah Tum Ho actor Sana Khaan.
Shree Narayan Singh, who is directing the film, confirmed the news, according to TOI, âItâs a cameo extremely crucial to the plot. Sana shot her portions recently during a schedule. She will be seen in a completely desi avatar in the filmâ.
Khan will be seen as Kumarâs girlfriend in the film which also stars Bhumi Pedneka
A source close to the film production told a leading daily, “It’s a cameo extremely crucial to the plot. Sana shot her portions recently during a schedule. She will be seen in a completely desi avatar in the film.”
I am quite excited for this movie even though it is quite a risky deal for Akshay. A movie which is a social satire would definitely be interesting to a few like me who cares for the cause but it has very limited audience. Moreover with its political alienation, not sure how it will be taken.
Even Taran has lost faith on producer totals of Kaabil and Raees. Has this ever happened before?
Dangal is now comfortably past 385 cr in India and over 30M (200 cr) in overseas. If they have second phase release, then the overseas number will go further.
No film is likely to get such numbers till Thugs of Hindostan, which will likely be the first 400 cr movie.
Btw, there are reports that Aamir will start shooting for Rakesh Sharma biopic after Thugs of Hindostan. What do you guyz think about that one?
I am surprised that there is no buzz here about the possibility of a Rakesh Sharma biopic. If they can get the special effects right, then this might turn out to be a rare space odyssey in Bollywood. And this is supposedly a Aamir production, so the dramatization and screenplay can be expected to be good.
The bench of Justice Ranjan Gogoi and Justice Ashok Bhushan asked the petitioner Fox Star Studios to approach the High Court and advance all its contentions before it. The bench asked the High Court to hear the matter on Monday â February 6 â allowing film producer Fox Star Studios to come before it on Tuesday â February 7.
The film is set for release on February 10.
âWe are keeping it pending,â the bench told senior counsel Kapil Sibal as he said that the film was cleared for release by the Central Board of Film Certification (CBFC) and under law the screening of the film before the panel comprising two lawyers and a doctor could not be done.
âGo and tell this to the High Court,â Justice Gogoi told Sibal. âWe will not say anything. We will keep it pending. Go to the High Court.â
As Sibal urged the bench to see the film, Justice Gogoi said, âWe will not see the film. We will tell you why we will not see the film. We donât have three hoursâ patience. Donât you think that three hours is too long.â
The Aurangabad bench of the Bombay High Court set up the committee to see the film after a Nanded lawyer, Ajaykumar Waghmare, told the court that the film was an attempt to portray the countryâs legal profession and the judicial system in a poor light.
It is âan attempt to portray the Indian legal profession and judicial system as a laughing stock to society at largeâ, Waghmare told the High Court.
The High Court directed for the review of the film by the panel on February 1 and set the next hearing on February 3.
Why Pak govt allowed to release #Kaabil but not #Raees? Because Pak govt wants people to watch a better film instead Ghisapita masala film.
I agree that SRK was a super star but his attitude and thinking is of Kunal Khemu. This is why he is not a super star today. Purity is must.
If you have watched #Raees and you want ur money back from SRK then RT this. If you liked the film, then like it.
By GOD Ki Kasam SRK’s success party would have come superhit in media if he could have called it #Raees flop party Instead of success party.
After flop result of #Raees, SRK has gone out of 3 Khans league n joined Ajay, Akshay, Ranbir, Hrithik n Ranveer singh. Fair enough!
Last 4 films Of SRK- #HappyNewYear- Flop, #Dilwale- Flop, #Fan- Disaster, #Raees- Flop coz it will do lifetime max 150Cr like Dilwale. If Salman khan is the hero in #Raees then 100% it will do 200+Cr business means definitely SRK is not in the league of 3Khans anymore.
Hey SRK fans if SRK is in league of Ajay-Akshay then #Raees is hit n if he is 3rd Khan then #Raees is super flop. Now decide what tag u want
Hey dear SRK fans, you RT this tweet to accept that now SRK is in the league of Ajay n Akshay not 3 Khans n I will declare #Raees super hit.
The last time SRK had the biggest movie of the year was 2007. How can this article not even mention Salman? Since 2008, its been pretty much Aamir vs Salman show. I mean just take the last two years. SRK had the 5th biggest hit in 2015 and the 9th biggest hit in 2016. The ‘baadshah’ lost his throne a long long time ago.
This is for Master from my side to break the ice:
Iâve Been A Star Long Enough. Dignity Is More Important Than Hashtags.âThe Badshah of Bollywood on how he cherishes his father’s reading of poetry, his stardom, art, et al in an interesting conversation…PRACHI PINGLAY-PLUMBER INTERVIEWS SHAH RUKH KHAN
âWoh aaye ghar mein hamare, khuda ki kudrat hai/Kabhi hum unko kabhi apne ghar ko dekhte hainâŚ.â If Shahrukh Khan were to ever drop in at someoneâs house, this might be the perfect couplet to describe that moment. But itâs he, the Badshah of Bollywood, who has a backstory for this Ghalib gem. Nothing around himâthe feverish promotional melee, hopping from one vanity van to the other to meet co-actors, producers et al, delayed lunches, the disarmingly innocent AbRam who demands his dadâs time over âboring interviewsââis conducive to ruminating about Âpoetry. But SRK shares an anecdote about how this couplet was Âinspired by a kleptomaniac friend of Ghalibâs and then goes on to the symbolic importance of the âsaaqiâ figure in shayari. He cherishes his fatherâs reading of poetry, his words of explanation, and promises that none of the chaos will distract him from the conversation at hand, and it would be an interesting one too. Not vainly spoken, as Prachi Pinglay-Plumber discovers. Excerpts:
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Youâve done different things from very early on in your carÂeerâplaying the bad guy, or the vulnerable romantic, when others were being action heroes; IPL; making the first successful sports film on real events. What prompts you to make these risky decisions?
I think all of us, whatever business we are in, we are all a beat off. Unfortunately, what happens is when you start getting into a system, you start getting on beat and start following the beatâŚwhich is also alright because you have enough talent to pull that off too sometimes. But Iâve been fortunate enoughâby nature, not by design. Iâve always been far removed from how films work, Âbecause I came from outside. I go by a different connotation. No one told me how one is supposed to behave within the film indÂustry. Very often, more decisions of mine still remain off beat than on. Sometimes I adhere to it. I say okay, letâs just do it. But I do it with the same aplomb and happiness. To me it doesnât seem like a risk.
When I started out, I didnât know how to be a movie starâthere was no uniformity given to me, that you are supposed to behave like this, talk like this, go for those parties, have a manager. Or that weâd like you to go in the action category, so you should dress like this, show your musclesâŚ. I think I was so unwise that I did those films! I wouldnât have done them if I was wiser or on beat. But those unwise things worked. People tend to think they all worked but thatâs not trueâAsoka didnât work, Paheli didnât work, Phir Bhi Dil Hai Hindustani didnât work, and it killed me emotionally. Offbeatness does mess up also but when you get it right, you kind of become unique. I still donât think of it as a risk.
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I remember while making Ra.One, my whole team was skeptical. It was the most expensive film at the time. The sampling and research people came and told me the audience for sci-fi movies is 0.1 or 0.001 per cent, where action films have 23 per cent, romantic films have 16 per cent! In 10 categories, it was the tenth, they saidâŚeveryone told me this, you know? But I said, if I donât, who will?
âOften, my decisions still Âremain more off beat than on. Sometimes I adhere to it. I say okay, letâs just do it. But I do it with the same aplomb and happiness.â
On IPL, for three years everybody kicked me for it, even Outlook. People said I donât know how to run cricket or business, but I got it right. We won it twice. Recently we were named the most consistent brand. I didnât tweet it. I donât want to harp on it or gloat. I donât adhere to that old maxim: thereâs nothing like being âahead of your timeââthereâs your time or not your time. Maybe you havenât got it right. Maybe you need to work harder.
You seem to be returning to darker roles with Fan, Raees? Javed Akhtar once said sketching out villains was particularly fun because they exude a certain freedom. Do you find them more interesting than the good guys?
I come from theatreâŚHamlet, Macbeth, Richard, these are the characters you remember. You wonât remember most of the sweet characters: they are nice, thatâs about it. You remember Romeo and Juliet because of the dark endâpoison le liya, nakli tha, khud ko maar diya, uth gayi, yeh kya ho gaya, oh my God! (speaks feverishly), a comedy of errors but so creepy, scary. You remember those things. The thunderclouds, the rain, the lightning are always more attractive than the daffodils and sunshine. Something as simple as Humpty Dumpty is more fun because they could not put them back together.
Within the parameters of commercial cinema, I donât think I have done all that yet. It requires a certain amount of obsessive passion to be that person. It requires the same passion to be Raj and Rahul too. To be devta-like or dariÂNDA-like requires sacrificeâŚ. I can understand the obsession in both places, I get attracted to it. I can play a Devdas, whoâs completely obsessive and weird, but I get it. I donât need to be like them but I get that space.
Raees is more real. Journalists have researched how bootlegging is done in Gujarat and elsewhere. Itâs not like Happy New Year⌠upar se aaya, gutter ke raaste nikla, andar chala gaya. Some of these moments, the modality of selling illegal liquor etc., theyâre very interesting because itâs actually happened somewhere. For example, they would sell it at vegetable stores, it was injected in tomatoes. Men started telling wives they would buy the vegetables, the women were happy, it was so wonderfully in the public space that nobody knew about it! There are lots of moments like this in the film. Small, reality-based thingsâŚwhere I hide the money, the booze. Itâs very intriguing for me, Iâm not from that world, neither are most of us. Normally I play urban characters. This was kind of rural, small town. Not completely rustic like Chahat or Paheli. The real space attracted me.
Dear Zindagi, in which you played a psychologist, highlighted the need for emotional support. Do you think it has become more acceptable? How do you cope with your upheavals?
Each one to his own, yaar. Iâm inexpressive, closeted, cloistered, very awkward sharing even with the closest of my people. There were times, for not being able to talk to anyone, Iâd talk to my pet dogâŚbecause I had it somewhere on my mind that she wonât understand, so itâs alright. I talk to my little kids knowing they wonât get most of it. That too, maybe once in four years! Iâm not at all someone who can do it. I get awkward even if you ask me to my face if something has made me sad. I donât want to share it. But I know friends, actors and actresses, who sometimes call me and talk to me. âShah, I want to talk to you yaar.â Iâm happy talking to them. Iâm a good person to talk to because I donât judge you. Maybe thatâs why I donât talk, because Iâm worried people will judge me. If you came to me and told me something radically weird, Iâm okay with it. Whatever is taboo. I donât discuss it with anyone. Iâm very private about your privacy. Nothing can shock me. If you told me you were an alien, itâs alright. I donât have to tell four people about it.
In DZ, Gauri Shinde, Alia Bhatt, Kausar MunirâŚI donât think they were propagating going to a counsellor or notâjust that there is a need in every man and womanâs life to have someone to talk to. I believed in it because you (the audience) believed in it. I donât need to believe in everything, just to make you Âbelieve. I believe you! So this could be true. If you need someone to talk with, Dr Jehangir Khan can be that. Personally it doesnât work for me, but I know it works for others, a lot of people I know go to counsellors. Itâs a good thing if it helps. Whatever helps you get over depression.
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How do you deal with it?
I just do it alone. I vent it out in films. I have no idea. I leave a part of me in a film. I could be doing a comedy right now and feeling extremely depressed but I leave a part of me there. I just overwork myself out of depression.
Dear Zindagi
Karan Joharâs autobiography is out. Naseeruddin Shah also wrote his. When do we see yours?
âExcept for four or five films, Iâve not done films where the girl is not playing the prime role. I believe it makes the story more interesting. It makes life more interesting.â
Mine is writtenâTwenty Years of a Decade. Bhatt saab had convinced me to write it. I finished it, but such beautiful things keep happening so I have to keep writing! Itâs a very funny ÂautobiographyâŚI mean I like to think so. I write when Iâm sad and I write quite funny. Itâs very therapeutic, but I havenât been sad for years (laughsâŚ) which is a good thing. Letâs see. The deal with my publisher was, you will not tell me when to publish it. Iâll keep writing and add lots of chapters. I edit myself. I want to finish it. It had finished at Aryanâs birth. Then Suhana came, then AbRamâŚso I have to add a few chapters.
You have been vocal about womenâs rights. How do you ensure, as a parent, that prejudices, stereotypes donât creep into your upbringing of a son and a daughter?
However much I want to avoid the fact that Iâm a movie star, part of it does come back. My wife and me come from a simple background. At home, am completely untouched, I donât bring back any part of this world, which is larger than life. My kids see me on hoardings or read that I got the Chubbs fellowship, but when theyâre sitting at home with me, Iâm a basic, sensitive guy. I donât shout, I donât misbehave. I do nothing that can ever be taken as trappings of a stereotypeâlike âmy father does this, so itâs okay for a guy to do thisâ. No impression is formed in my house. Except they sense that I work hard. Iâve never spoken to my wife in a way that can be questionedâŚIâve known her for 33 years. Or the way I speak to the people who work at home, actresses and others who work with me. Even with AbRam…heâs very young, if he says something I just put in a little word, like I did tell him just now to come and be nice to you girls.
My children have grown to be extra sensitive, sometimes theyâve even questioned my actionsâan outburst or a little Âanger with a journalist or someone. They say, âyou only tell us this, naâŚleave it, naâ. So thereâs a certain maturity. Maybe they realise I exist in a fragile world so they need to be stronger and keep everything together and itâs happened very naturally. I havenât seen my son or daughter saying anything wrong and Iâm very proud of them for that.
A lot is said about strong women characters in your films, the message that gives. You really seem to like thatâŚ.
âMeryl Streep can say what she has to or wants to. Even Trump can. If you donât have the platform, you canât ask why that speech doesnât Âhappen here.â
Except for four or five films maybe, Iâve not done films where the girl is not playing the prime role. I remember this very famous filmmaker said to me, why would you do this film (referring to DDLJ), the film belongs to Kajol. Or even Paheli, Kuch Kuch Hota Hai. In Chennai Express, the woman is so strong and the guy is such a lallu. I get attracted to films like that. I really believe it makes the story more interesting. It makes life more interesting if you have stronger roles for women in real life too. It just does. There is more girth, more rotundity. Even when a lady politician talks, itâs somehow better. My lifeâs highest fantasy is that Iâm sitting in an open car, pardon me but with a cigarette, laid-back, and a lady is drivingâŚnot from a service point of view, donât get me wrong. But a lady is in the driverâs seat. When I was in LA for the Oscars for Paheli, a limousine pulled up and I think Matt Damon came out and the chauffeur was this lady. Amazing high. My next film with Imtiaz, it has a wonderful role for Anushka. And Iâm not being patronising. Even Don for that matter; Roma is a stunning characterâwe couldnât even kill her in the end, ânahin maarte yaar, isko rehne dete hain yaar, wapas layengeââall the girls are so strong in Don, even the molls, LaraâŚeven in Raees, the mother, the wife played by Mahira.
Hark back to Aziz Mirzaâs Phir Bhi Dil Hai HindustaniâŚrather prophetic in retrospect. How do you perceive the media today? Has it gone out of control?
A little out of control, yes. Thereâs nascent stardom. The Âmedia has its competitors in people now. Suddenly so many people have points of views online. Earlier you were the only guys who brought news, now everyone has an opinion. So stardom has become very important in media. Instead of sticking to your ground of being well-informed and analytical, thereâs a rushâŚof half-hearted, hashtagged information. The other day, a lady was saying on a channel, âthis is my hashtagâ. I felt like, you made the hashtag lady, so what? They might feel, you canât beat them so join themâbut no, you donât need to join them. I can form my opinion without yours bearing in on me. I fully respect the issues you have, I simply do not speak about it or not speak in a tone I donât believe in, just because you need more voices.
From time immemorial, when stories were written, editors said, âlisten, letâs humanise it, letâs put a face thereâ, like the National Geographic girl with light eyes. Anything thatâs humÂanised is attractive, identifiable. Now presenters feel they are (those) human beings. But you just have to present, you canât force your opinion down my throat. Sensationalism is wrong, this is not even that. And the trolls are so hyper. Such wonderful journalists I know, one can respect them despite contrary views. If Salma Sultan would meet me for tea and gave me news, Iâll still take it! But it will become okay. It will curve eventually.
I also hear, âwhy canât the star say so, why canât youââŚ. But you have to create an atmoÂsphere for me to speak and I have to create an atmosphere too. We all are media, we need to do it together. We canât be on different pitches and have the same song. It wonât be the same song.
Without going into the Âdetails, do you think controversiesâlike on Ae Dil Hai Muskhil, My Name is Khan et alâchange the larger narrative in society, making people more cautious?
I donât think it will change the society. As an entertainer, I know my responsibility. You could be a serious-minded person and think a guy who does Chammak Challo canât ever be taken seriously, but having been 25 years at this job I owe three things to people. One, to make a good film. The second part is through youâthis interview is not just to market myself or my filmâthrough you I want tell people that this is one commodity where money wonât be returned if you donât like itâthe only good/service in the world that has no moneyback guarantee. Everything else, clothes, food, you can send it back. I need to inform them, so Iâm guilt-free. Third, I owe it to my audience that they go and like a film, just the way Iâd like to go and watch a film with ease, pleasure, comfort, relaxation. You donât go for entertainment with stress.
Dilwale Dulhania ÂLe Jayenge
I used to get very disturbed with all these small issues. (âWhy is this happening, yaar!â) Very few of us would make a film to incite violence or hurt your sensibilities. Just now the censor board said, âcut this lineâ. I hadnât realised it could hurt someone. And itâs alright, I can change it. Itâs no big deal, Iâm okay. Itâs a commercial film, how seriously can you take it? The word is not cautious, itâs âa little more carefulâ. What Iâm selling as entertainment may not be so entertaining to someone.
It happened to me a few years ago, when I met a set of hair stylists who felt âbarberâ was a derogatory word. I was really vehement. I said I wonât change it; âbarberâ is a degree in AustraliaâŚ. Then they sat next to me and watched the film. It was derogatory to their mind. I met 45 of them from all over India. âShahrukh bhaiya aisa bolte hai, chidaate haiâ (they tease us). So I removed the word. It would still be the same movie about a hairstylist. Iâm sorry, I canât explain to them that barber wasnât meant in a derogatory way. I donât know their backstory. Iâm a little more careful now.
See, my job doesnât end at making the film. It ends with getting the mother, daughter, father, brother, girlfriend, boyfriend coming and seeing it. I read these things and I tell my team, âcan we just control it because it goes out of handââŚ. Iâm not taking a stand because I canât. I donât like to clarify or write blogs on the subject. If itâs hurting people, letâs bypass it. Letâs do it easily. Iâm not bowing down to anyone. Thatâs what people may feel but Iâm not giving in to fear. This is just part of my job now, the world has changed. Thereâs a whole populist belief about what can work and cannot work and you have to adhere to it to get your job done, and my job is to touch your life for 2.5 hours. For that I need to do a few things and I will do them. I donât think thereâs any lack of dignity of labour in it or any lack of dignity.
Maybe 7-8 years ago I could come on a high horse and say âbut Iâm just a filmmakerââbut no, Iâm a filmmaker of responsibility. Parents meet me and say I want my son to be like you. I get such unconditional love and I got to look after that. Yes Iâm a little more careful, little more aware, little more patient. And a little more easy, rather than getting all worked up.
Don
What did you make of the powerful speech by Meryl Streep or even Leonardo DiCaprio about climate change, that platform, the impact it hadâŚ.
I think itâs an amazing platform, but platforms are made by peopleâin this case, the foreign press. You need to present my view as it is, not as part of the agenda of your write-up. You can ask me, âShahrukh, I believe in this, do you?â I say no. You can even present your point of view, which disagrees with mine. But letâs be fair, honest, letâs be brave enough. Itâs alright if you say I donât want your interview because youâre not going with the agenda of my story, which is okay. But you canât take what I say and make it part of your agenda. Thatâs whatâs not fair at all. Keep it in the context. Journalists cannot have an agenda unless itâs an editorÂial. I have an agenda to sell my film and blatantly soâso I come and dance on the Kapil Sharma show. Itâs not downgrading or Âupgrading in any way. Itâs my job.
When I have a platform like thatâŚ. With all due respect to whatâs happening there, or not happening, whatever we think of itâŚthereâs an advancement in media there, which we havenât got. Like they are much more advanced in filmsâtechnologically. And no, we are wrong in saying our films are better. If we were, weâd be making world-class cinema. We do need to learn from better things. Because of having passed these stages of stardom and having that platform, Meryl Streep can say what she has to or wants to. She or anyone else knows they can. Even Trump can. If you donât have the platform, you canât ask why that speech doesnât happen here.
Here, things are at a very nascent stage. Even I used to be jumpy. Iâve said things like âawards which donât give me awards donât deserve meâ. Now I think there are many years to come, I still have my talent, craft. Let me assume youâre right and Iâm not good enough. But I can be. I will be. Itâs about how dignified you are. Long back I remember visiting Mr Amitabh Bachchan at his ABCL office. People were screaming âShahrukh, Shahrukh!â and I feltâŚyes, Iâve arrived! Banging on my car and shouting. But when he started driving his car, they just parted way for him. It struck me then. They give you that space when youâre a true star. Not asking people âdo you love meâ and getting them to shout âyesâ. People will say that on their own. I used to do that, now I donât. Dignity is far more important than provocative hashtags, alliterations. Iâve been a star long enough, I donât want to be louder, we can agree to disagree. http://www.outlookindia.com/magazine/story/ive-been-a-star-long-enough-dignity-is-more-important-than-hashtags/298399
The Dial Of The Sun King
In the Bolly-games of Khandom, Raees could be Shahrukhâs next big chance. What if it fails to come good?GIRIDHAR JHATHE
âApna time shuru,â says the Raees poster, in a street-savvy, oracular tone. But the real arbiter these days is the weekend box-office collections, and itâs a destiny being written as you read this. So the question is open for the time-being: will this much-Âawaited gangsta flick renew his lease on the throne, or will it mark the beginning of the end of his Âprolonged reign at the top? Ever since he hit a purple patch early in his careerâwith Darr (1993), Baazigar (1993) and, above all, Dilwale Dulhania Le Jayenge (1995)âthere has been no looking back for the 51-year-old Shahrukh Khan. But as Raees, directed by the National Award-winning filmmaker Rahul Dholakia, hits the screen worldwide this week, thereâs a real tinge of nervousness.
And with good reason. There are two sensitive points on the graph on which comparisons will be made. One, SRKâs Ârecent films have not done business befitting his stature. Last year, Dear ÂZindagi (Rs 68 crore) and Fan (Rs 85 crore) failed to make it to the coveted Rs 100-crore club. And two, the Âphenomenal success of Salman Khanâs Sultan and Aamir Khanâs Dangal means King Khan is expected to match up and deliver a Rs 300-crore blockbuster. Tellingly enough, for SRK, âRs 300 croreâ is a peak that Âremains Âunconquered. And now, he has to aim for it against the current, with another A-lister from B-town, Hrithik Roshan, poised to split the votes with his home production Kaabil, releasing the same day.
Thatâs why Bollywood is keeping its fingers crossed, waiting with bated breath for the outcome of the film where it matters the most: the cash counters. Expectations are always spectacularly high from a new SRK film anyway. But never in recent years has any movie of his generated as much interest about its fate as Raees. The film comes with favourable pre-release reports, but what if it falls short of the mark?
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âItâs extremely important for a big star to deliver hit movies consistently. In Shahrukhâs case, this has not been the case in Ârecent times,â noted film trade analyst Komal Nahta tells ÂOutlook. âHe has to deliver a film that becomes a hit big enough to keep everybody associated with it happyâeven the distributors and exhibitors, not merely the producers.â Nahta says âs box-office showing is all the more important because both Salman and Aamir have had two films each that earned over Rs 300 crore in the past couple of years. âDangal is, in fact, getting closer to the Rs 400-crore mark now.â
Shahrukhâs trajectory has followed a different tangent of late. Dear Zindagi and Fan were both touted as experimental projects, devoid of the trademark SRK tropes, but their modest haul denÂted his reputation. And it became tough to rationalise against the runaway hits of the other two Khans. Dangal, released around Christmas, continues to have a roaring run, inching its way to the Rs 400-crore mark in the domestic circuit to emerge as the Âhighest-ever grosser in the history of tinsel town.
Nor was Sultan an exception in Salmanâs oeuvre. It only Âunderlined his undisputed box-office heft in the wake of ÂBajrangi ÂBhaijan (Rs 320.34 crore). Aamirâs PK, too, had done Rs 339.5 crore. In contrast, no SRK film has crossed the Rs 250-crore barrier yet, his Chennai Express (2013) being his best with a net collection of Rs 226.7 crore.
Never in recent years has any SRK movie generated as much interest about its fate as Raees, which comes in the wake of the huge success of Sultan and Dangal.
Could this be âhis timeâ finally? Tough to call, because the simultaneous release of any two star-driven movies inevitably divides the collections and harms the commercial prospects of both. âThe clash between Raees and Kaabil is interesting,â says Nahta. âBoth Shahrukh and Hrithik are looking for a big hit after failures. Hrithikâs Mohenjo Daro (2016) may have bombed, but Kaabil has got good pre-release reports.â
Film writer Rajiv Vijayakar thinks they would have done well to avert a direct faceoff. âItâs not only about SRK and Hrithik either. Kaabil director Sanjay Guptaâs last two movies have been flops too, while Dholakia is yet to deliver a commercially successful film.â But he feels hits or flops wonât matter much for a star of SRKâs luminance. âIf Shahrukh needs a hit at the moment after Fan and Dilwale, he needs it for nobody else but himself,â he says. âHeâs among the top six stars whose stature is not going to be Âaffected by hits and flops. Had failure affected them, Ajay Devgnâs career would have been finished by now. A hit is always good for any star, including Shahrukh. All he needs to do is select his films carefully.â
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Itâs also not fair to read the success of Raees against Dangal and Sultan, Vijayakar feels. âDuring Amitabh Bachchanâs era, so many other heroes, from Dharmendra and Sanjiv Kumar to Vinod Khanna and Rishi Kapoor, coexisted without affecting each otherâs box-office standing.â Many in the industry think Raees, Shahrukhâs first hardcore commercial film since Dilwale (2015), is his best bet for that elusive Rs 300-crore mark.
Shahrukh, along with Aamir and Salman, has been part of the triptych that has ruled Bollywood in the post-Bachchan era. And it was Shahrukh who took the lead with hits like DDLJ, Dil Toh Pagal Hai (1997), Kuch Kuch Hota Hai (1998), Devdas (2002), Kal Ho Naa Ho (2003) and many more. Itâs only in the past five years or so that the Kingâs throne appeared to wobble because of the Âindifferent performance of movies such as Ra.One, Happy New Year and Dilwale. Last year, even Akshay Kumar delivered Rs 100-crore hits (Airlift/Rs 129 crore, Rustom/Rs 127.42 crore and Houseful 3/Rs 107.7 crore) in quick succession. But SRK didnât touch even that markâthe low threshold of success for any movie starring a big star these days.
It was actually Aamir who started the Rs 100-crore trend with Ghajini in 2008. Since then, he has scored 200-plus four timesâbesides Dangal and PK, his Dhoom 3 (2013) and 3 Idiots (2009) collected Rs 280.25 crore and Rs 202 crore respectively. Salman had Kick (Rs 233 crore in 2012) and Prem Ratan Dhan Payo (Rs 207.4 crore, 2016) before Sultan and Bajrangi Bhaijaan in the elite double century club. And his Ek Tha Tiger (Rs 198 crore) fell short by only Rs 2 crore.
Salman, in fact, emerges as the most dependable hit-maker among the trio. He has as many as 10 movies in the total list of 49 films that have collected over Rs 100 crore at the domestic box office so far. ÂBesides Dabangg (Rs 145 crore, 2010) and Dabangg 2 (Rs 158 crore, 2012), he had Bodyguard (Rs 142 crore, 2011), Ready (Rs 120 crore, 2011) and Jai Ho (Rs 111 crore, 2014). Of course, Shahrukh has six films in that listâHappy New Year, Chennai Express, Dilwale, Ra.One, Jab Tak Hai Jaan and Don 2, all between 2011 and 2015. But the sum total of the Âmoney collected by these movies (Rs 921.35 crore) falls far short of the Rs 1,326.75 crore earned by five movies of Aamir (Dangal, PK, Dhoom 3, 3 Idiots and Ghazni) on the same list.
All the same, SRK remains a big draw with a massive and varied fan baseâand not just in India or among NRIs, as his peculiarly soft/hard persona enjoys a unique niche among European audiences too. That kind of genuine crossover appÂeal isnât something Aamir or Salman can really boast of. But trade Âexperts believe he has not drawn enough on the many-sided potential innate to him, or eked out a filmography that Âexploited the many shades of his Âpersona. Unlike Aamirâand even ÂSalman to some extentâhe has stayed put in his comfort zone too long, according to them. Ideally, he should have Âtaken a leaf out of Aamirâs book, who was the first among the trio to realise that it was the script, and not star Âpower, that could Âreally work at the box office.
Quite early in his career, Aamir is said to have even declined to work in a movie that his father, filmmaker Tahir Hussain, wanted to direct after Tum Mere Ho (1990) without seeing its script. ÂLater, he also desisted from working in cousin Mansoor Khanâs Josh (2000) because he did not wish to play another lover boyâs role (eventually essayed by a long-forgotten Chandrachur Singh in the film) and was keen on the part offered to Shahrukh in the film. That Mansoor was the director of his launch vehicle, Qayamat Se Qayamat Tak (1988), apparently made no difference to him.
Not only that, the Dangal star has gone absolutely against the norm in another very interesting way: he has studiously Âavoided working a second time with many directors who gave him hit films. The list includes Ram Gopal Verma (Rangeela/1995), John Matthew Matthen (Sarfarsoh/1999), Rakesh Omprakash Mehra (Rang De Basanti/2006) and A.R. Murugadoss (Ghajini), to name a few. He did repeat Raj Kumar Hirani with PK (after 3 Idiots) and that too was only after he liked its script.
Hrithik Roshanâs Kaabil, Âreleasing on the same day, is poised to split the votes with Raees, Shahrukhâs first Âhardcore commercial film after Dilwale (2015).
After a string of hit-and-run monsters like Ready, in recent years even Salman has consciously tried to go for interesting scripts: Bajrangi Bhaijan and Sultan came out of that search. SRK, however, has had no such strategy in the selection of his projects. Over the years, he did try to work with accomplished directors. So there have been Mani Ratnam (Dil se/1998), Aziz Mirza (Phir Bhi Dil Hai Hindustani/2000), Santosh Sivan (Asoka/2001), Gowariker (Swades/2004), Amol Palekar (Paheli/2005) and Priyadarshan (Billo/2009). But the commercÂial failure of these collaborations ÂappÂÂÂarently forced him to stay back in the Aditya Chopra-Karan Johar camp which kept offering him their brand of bubble-gum cinema.
In between, an occasional Chak De! India (2007) brought a long-overdue glimpse of what could have been. Normally, SRK has stayed with a deliberate over-Âthe-topness that bridged the genre gap between action-Âcomedies like Badshah and the grandiloquent Don, and worked equally well in both. Raees is an Âunderworld flick too, but one backed by research and grounded in near-Âreal events. And in Dholakia, one has a Âdirector who surÂely can tell a story, as his small-budget Parzania (2005) showed. But right now, as much as the filmâs cinematic merit, everyoneâs got their eyes on the number of voters he pulls in.
The Khanate Without End
A journey extraordinaire. Twenty-five years on, Shahrukh Khan stays at the top effortlessly, retaining an insatiable hunger for excellence in his craft.
PRACHI PINGLAY-PLUMBER
Aag puurii kahaa. Na bujhii hai abhii
Diidaa-e-tar mein tishnagii hai abhii
(Who says the embers burn not/Thereâs thirst left
yet in these moist eyes)
âMidahtul Akhtar
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The best tributes to a superstar are perhaps those that were never heard much. Paradoxically for a kind of human figure that looms everywhere for millions of peopleâin remembered scenes, on billboards, in an abstracted sort of public consciousnessâthese may be spoken in intimate spaces, to friends or family, perhaps even to themselves. No one will know, for instance, what endearments to SRK may have been uttered by the wife and daughter of Farid Khan Sherani, the man who lost his life in the melee at Baroda railway station. He had taken his family, fans of Shahrukh Khan, to see the star as he passed by on August Kranti Express in a promotional rail yatra. Whatever they were, those words would have joined innumerable others, offered in joy and rapture, to an actor whoâs now touching an incredible quarter-century at the top.
An unusual tribute to Shahrukh was once offered by a middle-aged German lady outside a film festival in Europe. âWe love himâ, she said, because âwe have had enoughâ of the standard male prototypeâthe tall, macho man, strong and silent, the medieval gallant. In Shahrukh, on the contrary, they saw a kind of neurosis and vulnerability. It is he who perhaps needs to be protected. Scan his films over the last 25 years, and it rings true. SRKâs is a persona composed of more complex notes than that of the average, monochrome Bollywood heroâquite outside the question of whether his filmography has entirely harnessed it. He has enough strings to his bow to attract an arthouse director, or a wide-eyed NRI kidâŚor a sedate European. In their time, Raj Kapoor and Amitabh Bachchan had that crossover appealâbut they got their Russia and Egypt, one suspects, by just being the arch representatives of Hindi cinema. (And Rajnikanth got his Japanese legions by approximating to the dark, flamboyant comic-hero.) SRK, on the other hand, seems to have a kind of cosmopolitan tinge that could genuinely speak to everyone.
Mostly, it was delivered to us with that deliberate over-the-topness. But the quiet moments have a way of creating their own space too. In Swades, as a NASA scientist returning to his village, Shahrukhâs character, seated in a crowded train, buys water from a boy on a platform. The boy, running with the train to sell water for 25 paise per glass, triggers a transformation in the scientist. Intense, but understated. One of those moments that turned the 2004 film from âcommercialâ to âcritically acclaimedâ. It was perhaps bettered with some of those wordless glances in Chak De (2007), but otherwise it remained a minor stream in the SRK school of acting.
Swades came after Kal Ho Na Ho, Main Hoon Na and Veer Zaraâthe known âRaj-ÂRahulâ territory for SRK. Without over-Âanalysing his choicesâbecause the freedom to make them rests with the one making themâhe did seem to step out of his comfort zone every now and then, only to go back, and then dart out again, a cautious guerilla. Paheli, then the swash-and-burn of Don, then the remarkably controlled Chak DeâŚ.
METAMORPHOSIS
Shahrukh began his career with TV serials in the late 1980sÂâFauji being an early hit.
âShahrukh would do three shifts a day (on the sets of Raju Ban Gaya). Heâd do 20 rehearsals, retakes till that scene sparkled.
Juhi Chawla, Actress
The journey for the 51-year-old Khan started with the aptly-titÂled Deewana. Heâs visibly tired, yes, but as passionate about work and cinemaâif not more, if that was at all possible. Raees, direcÂted by Rahul Dholakia, has set off some nice social media frenzyâhelped along by talk of âresearchedâ facts about bootlegging in 1980s Gujarat, denials about any connection to real-life don Abdul Latif, and other political pressure-points. It comes after Dear Zindagi, in which he played a counsellor to Alia Bhatt, and Fan in which he essayed both a film star and his innocent-turned-evil fan. Is this yet another experimental phase?
âI think itâs better to go wrong doing the new than go right in doing the done. I really believe that,â Shahrukh tells Outlook (see interview). âMany times Iâm blamed for doing the same. I donât get that but I accept it. And I donât do different for the sake of doing different. I do it because itâs important, it feels good and itâs high time. It does work out eventually.â With the VFX-heavy superhero flick Ra.One, for example, he did take a leap of faith factoring in the lossesââbecause if I donât, who will?â
In these 25 years, he has bought a bungalow on Bandstand, Bandra, set up Red Chillies Entertainment, hosted TV shows, bought a cricket team in the Indian Premier League, has a following of 23 million on Twitter, has two honorary doctorates, has been named a Chubbs Fellow at Yale University, and has had three children with Gauri Khan, his companion for three decades. Flops and controversies have stalked him on this journey but the dimpled starâs aura hasnât ebbed.
But after all these years, is he a conformist or not so much? âHeâs doing films which are different now. Not to forget, he started out with Mani Kaul and Ketan Mehta,â says Anupama Chopra, film critic and author of King of Bollywood. âThe films that made him a superstar are the YRF, Karan Johar films about affluent people living abroad but he has had his foraysâŚ.â Any statement about his oeuvre has to be a qualified one.
My Name Is Khan (2010) went on to add glitter to the star.
âHe writes minimally, and with such depth and simplicity. I urge him to publish about his journey so far and not wait any longer.â
Mahesh Bhatt, Filmmaker
Posterity has conferred on his blink-and-miss role in In Which Annie Gives it Those Ones a jokey relevance. But his early wsorkâthe serials he did before his motherâs death in 1991, the early heroâgave notice of one on the verge of something big, partly becÂause of his genre of looks, partly because of his strange eneÂrgy. It seemed, over the years, that he had internalised a lot from the past, Dilip Kumar, Rajesh Khanna, Amitabh. But his acting persona was entirely of his own makingâoscillating between the comedic and the noirish, both deliberately overblown, and the sun-kissed boy right out of Riverdale High.
First blood was drawn by the anti-hero films, Baazigar and Darr, which SRK still credits to lack of choice. âShahrukh was an outsider, what he has had to do is innovation. Itâs well-known that no one was giving him the sweet boy roles. He took the villainous roles rejected by others. But they workedâŚbecause there was a certain passion. He was all heart,â says filmmaker Imtiaz Ali, who has SRK with Anushka Sharma for his next, a love story, yes, but a little âdifferentâ.
SRKâs first âRajâ may have come in Aziz Mirzaâs Raju Ban Gaya Gentleman, but it wasnât until DDLJ that he became the romÂantic hero that fans drool over and critics love to hate. The forgettable Trimurti, Ram Jaane and Chaahat apart, he teamed up with Abbas-Mustan, Yash Chopra, Karan Johar and Mani Ratnam to set the box office ringing. DDLJ continues hold on to its matinee show at Maratha Mandir even nowâcreating its own legend. A quick glance also throws up a quirky Maya Memsaab, and associations with Mani Kaul, Ketan Mehta, Kundan Shah et alâall genres. Every few years he returned to Aziz MirzaâYes Boss, Phir Bhi Dil Hai Hindustani, all with Juhi ChaÂwla, co-owner in his Kolkata Knight Riders team.
âI had not seen those serials when I first him on the sets of Raju Ban Gaya,â Juhi Chawla tells Outlook, reminiscing. âI was working with Azizji for the first time, they had already worked togetÂher. I thought of it as a sweet love story. Shahrukh was extremely hard-working. Heâd do 20 rehearsals, retakes till that one scene sparkled. Heâd do three shifts a dayâŚI was doing one. He wrote scenes together with Azizji. We clicked together. We had great times, but in our heart of hearts we were simple people. We wanted to work and do something nice and we had Azizji, who spoke of the common man, his aspirations. It was very endearing.â
Juhi was also the leading lady in Darr, the object of Shahrukhâs obsessive stalker with the infamous kkkkkkiran stammer. This turn with YRF resulted in a long, happy association, full of the feted hits that exuded the glossy air of post-reforms India and brought in NRI audiences. Aziz Mirza, who says he no longer watches films, says the world is all about instant gratification now. âHeâs a good boy, intelligent, good background. Also very aware, always understood value systems. He has had to move with the times. Maybe something more relevant is in the pipeline,â Mirza says.
Mahesh Bhatt, the maverick filmmaker whose daughter Alia recently had SRK in a supporting role, has known him for many years. It was on his urging that Khan decided to pen his yet-to-be-completed autobiography, Twenty Years in a Decade. Bhatt says, âHeâs a national treasure. A self-made man who touched dizzying heights. Ultimately we are the stories we are shaped by. I felt he has a story. We know his professional world through filmmakersâlarger than life and all that. But in his autobiography he gives you access to the inner sanctum of his heart. I had got a glimpse of this in the â90s, sensed the depth, narrative flowing like a stream in him.â Khan is waiting to add more chapters (see interview).
âStars also get trapped in their image and what people or industry expects of them. Itâs a plastic world, you know,â says Kundan Shah, who made Kabhi Haan Kabhi Na with Shahrukh. It was in fact his first film but did not find distributors for a long timeâuntil Shahrukh himself stepped in. He loved the film so much that he bought rights to the film a few years ago. But by then, whether by choice or notâtrapped he was. The open arms, sweet smile, hamming with tearful eyes, getting beaten up before screaming in extreme rage, trapped in all that.
There were comparisons with Dilip Kumar and Bachchan (with whom there were rumours of differences)âthe three posed together for a Filmfare cover in 2013. Not to mention the other two KhansâSalman and Amir. Their films, their personal equations, the great friendships and greater falling-outs. In between, there were odditiesâAsoka, and much later Shimit Aminâs Chak DeÂ. Then Farhan Akhtarâs delicious outing, the Don remakeâanother anti-hero, complete with guns and sexy women. But he only plays at macho, almost jokily. In his movies, the heroineâs name rolls before his in credits. There were also controversies: on the Chaiyya Chaiyya lyrics, on the word âbarberâ, Manoj Kumar taking umbrage at his portrayal in Om Shanti Om.
Things started to get really worrying when Karan Joharâs My Name is Khan met with violent political protests about SRKâs positive statements about Pakistani cricket playersâ the avoidably gooey, over-the-top KJo signature ensures that controversy is what the film will finally be remembered for. But SRK has had to pay a price for being one of the most articulate and vocal among stars. And perhaps he has learnt his lessons the hard way.
âWe live in unforgiving times,â says Bhatt. âAn icon like him has so much riding on his shoulders. He doesnât have the luxury to speak his worldview. Itâs good to use tact in these times when you are walking in a field of mines and silly to become a sitting duck for somebody. Thereâs a certain amount of caution, itâs a reflection of the times we live in. He knows he is a solitary animal and is out there on his own without any political clout. Heâs worldly-wise now but the whispers in his heart can be heard loud and clear by those who choose to tune into his art.â In his keynote address at Yale, SRK even described himself (and anyone creative) as a funaÂmbulist, a tightrope walker.
Juhi wants him to âlook after his healthâ, but that tightrope must be walked because the hunger is still insatiable. Anupama believes the power and influence that comes with his territory can do wonders for the industry, if he wishes. âThe three Khans are institutions by themselves. When they push the envelope, the envelopes move. I wish he should just go wild,â she says. âI know he believes his best is yet to come,â says Imtiaz Ali. The final word to Bhatt: âI told Alia that Dear Zindagi works because of that man. His energy, his large heartedness made the film sparkle. You can sense his aloneness, not loneliness. He has a light of his own. Like a beast in the jungle, a lion or tiger, alone and complete. I feel he will polevault out of that straitjacketed space.â http://www.outlookindia.com/magazine/story/the-khanate-without-end/298398
But Marcus has a point as Shahrukh’s last 3, 4, 5 or more movies have underperformed or been outright failures depending on the sources one trusts in comparison to Akshay whose last 3 movies have been big hits & have made money for every one involved in the business! And their ROI with respect to their budgets has also been also profitable to the makers in absolute numbers! And on top of that he is churning 3 to 4 movies a year which makes it more commendable as people don’t wait for his movies as much as say Aamir, then Shahrukh & then Salman as their releases are lesser than Akshay which gives people wait more for a Khan’s movie/s due to their lesser frequency than Akshay where they know that if they miss Jolly LLB 2, they would have Akshay releases in next few months! So keeping that in mind, it becomes imperative for Khans to come up with comparatively bigger openers & bigger grossers than Akshay to stay ahead of him. But 140, 68, 85, 140 grossers from Shahrukh’s last releases are not suggesting the gulf between him & Akshay as big or even if any at all projected by the trade & media! If Aamir is coming after 2 years in TOH & delivers just 150 or 200 Crores grosser, then Salman would be undoubtedly No. 1 as his releases are more frequent than Aamir & yet that is not affecting his grossing capability!
So in my view Akshay is at 3rd spot ahead of Shahrukh as he has been more consistent despite more releases than him & neither Shahrukh has delivered a mega grosser lately to remain at 3rd place. Akshay’s highest grosser is RR at 132 but it’s not the case that he is coming up with 70 or 80 Crore grossers whereas Shahrukh has been delivering huge grossers in the vicinity of 200 Crores with his releases, if that were the case, then Akshay at 4th would have made sense with such huge gap between his & Shahrukh’s movies! But with 2 grossers in almost 130 range & 1 at around 110, I would have him ahead of Shahrukh as Raees is a huge let down for Shahrukh & it needed 175 or more to make Shahrukh stable at 3rd place but with just 135 Crores, Akshay moves ahead of Shahrukh on the strength of sheer volume & rational budgeting of his movies ensuing in genuine & clean hits.
strongly considering changing my ID to avoid the confusion lol…but my ID has been “aamirsfan” ever since planet bollywood/naachgaana days….but yes this blog does have a lot of Aamir fans now…it wasn’t always like this here!
there was once a time where I was pretty damn passionate about Aamir and his BO positioning…that was a decade or so ago tho. Now I just let the box office numbers of his films do the talking…
Aamirsfan Don’t change your ID as it doesn’t matter to me one bit when I’m referred to as your username most of the times by Satyam as both have Aamir in it đ And on top of that Shakespeare’s famous quote “What’s in a name?” So don’t worry about such trivial things & keep visiting.
I was one of the ‘instigators’ of whatever happened between Master and Myselfaamir. I was taken-aback by Master’s outburst calling me not dumb, but ‘dumber [which means, I had been making dumber comments previously as well, when it comes to SRK.] In reply to another comment of mine, Z had called me dumb, by taking one sentence completely out of context. It was my mistake that I attributed the ‘Muslimness’ factor being harped on to both of them. I was on the not-so-smart-phone and couldn’t even properly search for all comments but when I did I realized my error and immediately apologized to Master for mixing-up.
Anyway, good that it’s over. Thanks Myselfaamir for supporting me – though don’t know whatever traversed after 4 pm Wednesday due to personal reasons since I have barely checked the blog after that.
I too might come here very infrequently now, but not because of one rude response or anything, but just because I have some other stuff to attend to.
I will however, as I mentioned, ‘politely’ disagree with both Master and Z on their takes; with Master since I didn’t find this film as superior — be it even the 2nd ‘grim’ half [& God knows I like serious, grimy films]; with ‘Z’ on the religious angle being a hold-back for some — you know who — folks.
Anything anybody said is not a Trump executive order. It can be taken back on this blog.
Nobody please leave; God has anyway planned our last day. Why make oneself sound so great and resign from a blog? And a very good blog at that?
An Jo you were not”the instigator” in my case as I just referred to you in my comment only to point out Master’s previous such comment terming you dumber before he posted that abusive comment in response to my innocuous comment. But let bygones be bygones đ
An Jo – if u were called dumber with all the wonderful reviews and write-ups u’ve been posting – then I self-proclaim myself as a dumberrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr đ ignore all those things and pl continue sharing the gems u’ve always done
he has called a whole lot of people dumb including…doesn’t matter. It is prolly something he himself thinks of himself; more of Freudian slip of sorts. You are one of the few people I hold in gr8 esteem AJ and love your reviews.
P.S. whatever you are doing avoid travelling abroad đ
Thanks Myselfaamir, Raju, Di, Munna. Yes of course the Am-exit is on my mind and has resulted in topsy-turviness of my priorities in life. But I am avoiding traveling. Some other stuff going on too.
No hard-feelings toward Master too.
In the mean-time, enjoy the SHAHENSHAH’s percentage..
It’s very much possible that FilmKraft’s dishonest reporting has provoked Red Chillies into this game to portray a strong leading position. Both are heading for HIT, lol. Hit means nothing today, even TV channels advertise upcoming movies as blockbusters when they were washouts.
They are both manipulating. One doing more than other is silly way to target only that one party. If RCE can do this and get away with it why trust any number?
Exhibitors are quoting a 5.75 cr no for Raees….There are literally three numbers now…BOI, Exhibitor and Producer…Its a mess honestly…The overall manipulation in Raees is around 6-7 crs as per exhibitors…The issue here is that within trade BOI is very credible and BOI numbers have been lower for Raees on last 3-4 days..So most sites are coming with an in between number…and having an ‘our estimate’ column…Adda today, Indicine, Bollyarena all have done that…And their numbers are more exhibitors numbers…
Rakesh Roshan’s figures have touched 100 cr on second friday. Now he can run media propaganda of 100 cr ‘hit’ to build a perception of success and hope to attract a few more people to theaters over the weekend. It is all very convenient.
I agree that Red Chillies are trying to keep up with Roshan’s numbers and have started over-reporting to win the perception game.
Anyways, I doubt if Kaabil has done anything more than 80 cr at this point (10 days) and Raees 115 cr or so.
Didn’t this dude use to comment on NG? Joginder? What a fall from grace! To actually believe propaganda is one thing, to promote it is just as corrupt.
BOI figures for Kaabil and Raees are 2.5 and 2.75 respectively. More than 100% manipulation by both makers. I dont know why everybody is questioning Kaabil collections only, Raees makers have also made big strides in manipulation. This is really a sad state of affairs, where one party is trying to outdo other in manipulation. It seems to be a clash of ego, more about perception than actual collection
Let me extend. RCE were presenting numbers quickly over holidays as they knew they were beating Kaabil but since then they’ve deliberately waited for FKP to release weekday figures just so they can be ahead when they release their own. FKP were dishonest from off, since long time. RCE are converts.
Exactly till weekend collections of Raees were fine, so there was no need to go for higher numbers, as weekdays collections have not been commensurate to their expectation they started manipulation, and they need to compete with Roshans too, otherwise RCE may loose the perception game.
All this is because of reaching that 100 crore club. Somehow everyone wants to cross it by hook or crook. Just like fudging marksheets. They say everything is fair in love and war and let us include boxoffice and awards too.
Arnie wants to go full Terminator on Trump and âsmash his face into a tableâ
hollywood Updated: Feb 04, 2017 11:04 IST
HT Correspondent
HT Correspondent
Hindustan Times
Arnold Schwarzenegger
Hasta la vista, baby.
The war of words between the former California governor Arnold Schwarzenegger and President Donald Trump is heating up – not over policy, but TV ratings.
On Thursday, Trump converted a speech at the National Prayer Breakfast into a discussion about The Apprentice, a reality show he used to host.
âWe had tremendous success on The Apprentice, and when I ran for president, I had to leave the show,â Trump said. âThatâs when I knew for sure I was doing it. And they hired a big, big movie star, Arnold Schwarzenegger, to take my place, and we know how that turned out. The ratings went right down the tubes, itâs been a total disaster, and (creator Mark Burnett) will never, ever bet against Trump again,â he said.
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Arnoldâs spokesperson had a ready comeback:ââArnold is praying that President Trump can start improving his own approval ratings, which were the worst in history for an incoming president, by taking his job seriously and working inclusively,â the statement to ABC News read.
Schwarzenegger, 70, then released a video in response. âHey Donald,â he said. âI have a great idea. Why donât we switch jobs: You take over TV, because youâre such an expert in ratings, and I take over your job. Then people can finally sleep comfortably again.â
Dangal Continues Its Run Into Week Seven
Saturday 04 February 2017 12.30 IST
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Dangal (Hindi) is still continuing at cinemas in its seventh week with over 373 crore nett in six weeks under its belt already. The film has broken records in most of the circuits. The ones which won’t make an all time record are Mumbai, Bihar, Assam and Odisha while West Bengal is looking a photo finish. In CP Berar it has made a record in NETT collections but its distributor share is still below Bajrangi Bhaijaan. Bihar is the worst performing circuit as it was unable to beat the other big Aamir Khan starrers PK and Dhoom 3. The film will close with an all India distributor share of 180 crore apprx. The business of Dangal (Hindi) till date is as follows.
Raees Second Friday Business
Saturday 04 February 2017 12.00 IST
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Raees dropped again on the second Friday with collections around 2.75 crore nett. The total collections of the film are now around 114.50 crore nett. The collections are still a little ahead of Kaabil but now both films are doing similar business The collections dropped around 35% from the previous day as there was a big reduction screens but some of that was compensated by the higher weekend ticket rates. The second weekend may go to around 10 crore nett or a little higher but that is not good for a big film like Raees. The business of Raees till date is as follows.
First Week – 1,11,75,00,000
Second Friday – 2,75,00,000
TOTAL – 1,14,50,00,000
The lifetime business of the film will not stay below Dilwale (2015) as that film did manage to sustain a little better possibly as it was Xmas period as the public response to that film was not really better than Dilwale.
Kaabil Second Friday Business
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Kaabil had a low second Friday with collections of 2.50 crore nett which has taken the total business to 69.50 crore nett apprx. The film dropped around 15-20% from the previous day which is not bad but the collections are too low and to get any decent final total the film had to show growth on its second Friday. The film has managed to get the closest it has ever been to Raees but the collections are still a little less. There should be good growth on the second Saturday and maybe it could get even closer to Raees but that remains to be only target for the film as its box office fate is sealed. Even if the film does start to collect more than Raees on a daily business it will still struggle to make any major dent in the lead of Raees The business of Kaabil till date is as follows.
First Week – 67,00,00,000
Second Friday – 2,50,00,000
TOTAL – 69,50,00,000
The business of the film is poor across all circuits of India though it has managed to go ahead of Raees in places like Rajasthan, CI and East Punjab. The weekend of the film could go to around 10 crore nett and or even a little higher but a 20 crore nett second week is impossible and that is where the film problem is as a big film that does not open well has to atleast get 20 crore nett in week two.
SRK said he feels that they have made “a universally correct movie”. “We held focus groups, before the film’s release and according to their response, a few scenes and a song have been cut from the movie.”
Ritesh Sidhwani joked that Mahira thought we will cross the 100 crore mark on the very first day. “But we weren’t making a film with Salman Khan or Aamir Khan” he added.
Recounting her arrival in Mumbai, for the shoot, Mahira joked, “When I reached the Mumbai Airport, I thought I’d be greeted by Shah Rukh running towards me, with his arms open. But that didn’t happen.” She also added that she is unaware of the film’s collections.
Shah Rukh was asked how does he feel that so many actresses like Deepika Padukone, Anushka Sharma and now Mahira Khan have debuted opposite him, and have gone on to become major stars of our times, “Deepika was already working in South. Anushka was also into modelling, and Mahira was acting before as well. All three of them were working before debuting in a film with me.”
SRK, on the other hand, found the song to be a tough one, “It was a tough song. I’ve never done garba in my 25 years in the film industry. I had to work hard for it. I am more of a performer, whereas Nawazuddin and Mahira are great actors. Picking up the beats of a song comes naturally to them.”
Lol at the defense of Excel and RCE having to inflate. These sites are now having to revisit their history. They started off as producers hub, when they had estimated figures. Now they have to turn to their own figures because of this clash.
This is childish!!! Easier to accept the truth and focus and work hard towards next project then to live a lie… isn’t it?? I mean both are rich with lot of fame and success. Shit happens!! Accept it and move on.
i donât know why BOI is saying dangal wldnât cross PK in mumbai as it is just 1 cr short in mumbai after week5.i am attaching their circuit collns.after week5,dangal has already done 1.92 cr and wld atleast do upto 3.25 to 3.5 cr.usually,mumbai collns 30-35% of all ind. collns unless a movie is very mumbai cenred,so,dangal shld easily add atleast 1 cr. in mumbai after week5.
Megastar Amitabh Bachchan says he always wanted to work with Sanjay Leela Bhansali and when the filmmaker offered him a role in his directorial venture ‘Black’ he did not charge a single penny for it.
Amitabh Bachchan calls ‘Sairat’ a Marathi wonder
In a special blog dedicated to ‘Black’, which clocks twelve years today, the 74-year-old actor said just being a part of such a beautiful project was more than enough for him. “I had just wanted to work with Sanjay, after seeing all his other works he had done… And when the opportunity came it was quite overwhelming. I did not take any salary for the film… Just being a part of such an enterprise, was sufficient fees !” Bachchan wrote.
The film based on the real life story of Helen Keller, starred Rani Mukerji as a blind and deaf woman to whom Big B played the teacher. Bachchan said the best moment of his life came when his idol veteran actor Dililp Kumar attended the premier of the film and praised his performance. “At the premiere when we all saw the film, there was just those tears of joy within me, and of course the fact of having Dilip Saheb in the audience was a child hood dream coming true.”
“When the film got over, he stood outside the hall, held my hands and just looked into my eyes .. It was, what I could have allowed, to last for a lifetime!” he wrote. The actor concluded the post saying each and every detail Bhansali put in making of the film is still very much there in his heart. “12 years of its release…And each and every detail that accompanied it has been engraved on stone for me.”
For his role in the film Bachchan went on to receive his second National Film Award for best actor. The movie also won National award in best feature film in Hindi category.
what do u think abt dangal breaking PK record in mumbai.why is BOI denying it straight away.it is just 1 cr nett short after 5 weeks and should add 3.5 cr after that.it wld surely do 1 out of 3.5cr in mumbai circuit.
dangal china and japan release is being planned.i think they cld release the movie in china only after 4 months of it’s domestic release.china release could happen by may/jun.
Aamirsaurabh.. consolidate your comments.. you put up too many brief ones. And hey there’s no need to sell a 380 crore movie (or whatever) so much at this point! But seriously don’t keep putting up too many brief comments let alone on the same topic. Also anything with two links automatically goes into moderation (to answer your earlier question).
I am enjoying Aamirsaurabh. Never seen a crazy Aamir fan getting on nerves of others so much. Its always the other way around. Let Aamir fans enjoy. Pleaae don’t stop him.
Given Shah Rukhâs career crossroads, itâs going to be fascinating to watch where he goes from here.
Is it just me, or has Shah Rukh Khan become the most interesting actor around? This isnât about his performing skills. This isnât about his box-office clout, healthy enough for a star, yet nowhere near that of the other two Khans of his generation, Salman and Aamir. This is about where the actor is at this point, at some kind of crossroads. Heâs too old to pull off the demented lover and Raj-Rahul routines that made him a superstar â even the mature variants of Raj and Rahul havenât quite done the trick, as the modest returns of Jab Tak Hai Jaan and Dilwale prove. But he hasnât figured out what the alternative is. Heâs trying to reinvent himself. But as what? He doesnât seem to know. We donât either. And thatâs⌠interesting.
srk can get into politics,surely superstars decling years ahead of him usually takes those path or try a ” Villain ” opposite akki,ranveer or even salman ,why not …
SRK is also getting extremely insecure, annoyed, irritated about this confused state he finds himself in. Karan Johar recently revealed that he backed away from the friendship once he felt Karan was getting friendlier with the other Khans and doing films without him. That reveals a side to SRK I did not know. He also seems to have some resentment against Ranveen Singh who was cast in Befikre by Adi.
Other stars also have their favourite filmmakers but no one is so possessive or dependent. Of course if you leave out the likes of Ajay Devgan who feels that way about Rohit Shetty.
SRK has been struggling since a long time now. He just comes across as a bit bitter and egoistical. Suddenly he is talking about how big a star he is, how he had big hits no one else had earlier. This is clearly the talk of a star who fears his biggest years are behind him. There is a shadow of Rajesh Khanna, though SRK’s stardom has lasted much much longer. But there is the same feeling of disbelief and deluded appearance on saw in Khanna. he chided Kareena a few yeas ago because she called Aamir the God of acting.
He takes jibes at anyone who he thinks is loyal to other stars.
This is a timely piece by Rangan. It is indeed interesting to see where his career goes.
It is obvious that he cares about loyalty, because the only actress he got very close to was Priyanka Chopra. And one of the reasons was because she was his unabashed fan, who didn’t appear eager to cozy up to the other Khans. SRK clearly liked that about her, and even got involved with her somewhat.
A person who ardently supports and promotes someone because they are faithful and loyal to him is correspondingly going to detach himself and get angry if that person doesn’t show the same level of devotion. That is what is happening with Adi and Karan.
sitcom like Everybody loves Raymond ? I beg your pardon. Please don’t demean any Hollywood actors by comparing them to anything on the indian scene. It all seems effortless to watch but try and have a dekho of behind the scene and prep work.
They don’t multitask and SRK and their ilk cannot even achieve even 30% of that humor and even if the script permits, will ruin such well written parts with their self-centerdness
All these HR and SRK need to get off their pill and once again level up and they have enough talent to reestablish themselves for Hindi audience which has very low standards anyway.
“….Gauri Khan, wife of King Khan â Shah Rukh Khan â was once allegedly held at the Berlin airport for possession of Marijuana….”
A drug is any substance other than food, that which can be inhaled, injected, smoked or consumed by a person. Consuming any form of drugs is very harmful to human body, but yet people fall prey to such habits either due to socializing, peer pressure, depression or any other reason.
But the fact remains, that drugs causes harm and needs to be avoided. In Mumbai itâs been reported that drug peddlers target college youths in pubs, disco and other joints, while slum dwellers also prey to such substance are seen lying in an unconscious state by the road side.
Apart from these, the drug menace has also hit the rich and high flying celebrities from the glamour world of Bollywood. Some of the famous stars of yesteryearâs and current generation were reportedly involved in some of the other form of drug abuse â whether usage, possession or transit
Agree with the article, except it’s under a decade late. As he still has a loyal fanbase he is capable of delivering interesting films. I quite liked the DZ role but one knows his safety zone is a YRF film & it won’t be too long before he goes back there.
DZ was a good movie. SRK was great, till the SRK-Alia angle was brought in. Seem out of place and totally not required. Probably SRK must have suggested the same I guess, knowing him. He was doing perfectly fine as a guide/mentor/doctor to Alia and I know getting close to your guide/mentor is common but somehow it din’t work in the movie. In fact would have been more interested in knowing SRK’s character’s past and probably they could have shown another unconventional/funny way SRK could have used to convince her she is fine and needs no more sessions. Anyways, still was a decent effort which of course appealed only urban audiences.
vidhu vinod chopra is talking some sense,all these years we wasted our energy & time on superstars as who is bollywood king…” the bollywood story is the real king “
He’s actually talking nonsense because he says “Iss kahaani ka king nirmata nahin hai, darkhak hai.” What does that even mean?
So Aamir gets no credit either as a star or actor or even producer. God only knows what this self-absorbed, delusional (and entertaining for that reason) guy had in mind to say this.
What sense is he talking ? Hrithik would be a total misfit for Aamir’s role in Dangal , Besides Aamir’s acting in the film his goodwill and credibility has lot to do with with Dangal success which clearly HR and others stars dont have .
For someone who has collaborated with Aamir for his 2 biggest hits, I’m surprised he doesn’t recognise what time Aamir puts into his films. Dangal he produced. Without Hirani, VVC had a varied directing career. He’s lucked out big time.
Content was always the king. Execution is the Wazir. There are many good stories that flattered to decieve. There are infinite no. of things that can go wrong and ruin a potentially good story. In bollywood there is only 1 person who can almost guarantee to get it right every time. His name is Aamir Khan.
Yeah right VVC ! Film industry is full of these self-aggrandizer and agenda driven narcissists. Easily visible why he is saying that……and pushing his own upcoming movie in the bargain.
This idiot has produced so many movies after vetting the story ….so if he is concerned on story why haven’t they work even at small level. Dangal with anyone else would not even be a 100 cr grosser. Strictly for sake of argument ( in reality doubt that ) considering his stardom salman may take it to 150 cr or ” a bit’ further. Dangal has aamir written in bold letters.
I agree. I didn’t realise he was thinking of his next film while saying that. But you’re right.
I may have seen his point with regards to some other film but to say that only the story is king in Dangal is ridiculous. The writing is strong but it wouldn’t have been one tenth of the film if not for Aamir.
VVC’s quote of story is the king makes his job of producing movies irrelevant as per him the good stories get translated in to a movie w/o the need of competent directors (make anybody a director with good story!) & the producer becomes redundant in the process, so do away with this department based on your comment & VVC becomes jobless! He has hoards to sustain himself for the rest of his life thanks to Hirani & Aamir. Take Hirani out of his production house only then he would realise the immense value of a director & a star!
Remember VVC made Aamir sign a clause that he wont interfere with the film? VVC is stating what he needs..that he needs Hirani as the director and the story of course he brings.
Yes Aamir is a greenhorn in Bollywood to sign such a clause. This guy is shameless and still comes on public platform and give gyaan to people after failure and absolute duds by the dozen.
Even after all the talent Hirani benefited immensely with aamir association and I don’t know about 3I but PK would be a sub standard without an Aamir there to make it work. Dutt Biopic is round the corner and even after sitting on this project for 4-5 years all the truth will be revealed.
India is a nation driven by stars and nothing is going to change in the near future. Just look at all the ‘story’ and ‘director’ driven over achievers for the whole of last year. What is the 2nd highest total after Dangal and Sultan …..a meager 130 cr and that too had another superstar MSDhoni’s name attached to it.
Your memory seems to have some special compartment to “recall or retain Aamir related news dating back to 25 years”!! A fan keeps a very-very close tab on his competitor’s history even at the risk of erasing his idol’s past as memory needs space & fan prefers to keep his competitor’s history so as to use it as a weapon for the support of his idol as he is fully aware that his idol’s present & future don’t give him this luxury to win the war đ
âDangalâ success bash: Karan Johar, Alia Bhatt, Rekha attend Aamir Khanâs star-studded party
TNN | Updated: Feb 5, 2017, 08.10 AM IST
While most stars are quick to announce a success bash within days of their film’s release, Bollywood’s Mr. Perfectionist, Aamir Khan, likes to do things differently. The actor likes to throw a success bash only when his film is truly a success in every sense of the word. Over 40 days after the release of ‘Dangal’, which now holds the distinction of being Bollywood’s highest grosser of all time, Aamir and the film’s team got together to host a success bash on Saturday night. And when you’re celebrating the success of Hindi cinema’s biggest film, it is only natural that the night will be high on star power. All of Bollywood came together to celebrate Aamir’s labour of love – a film that is easily the most loved one of the year gone by.
Aamir looked dapper in a Nehru jacket while his wife Kiran Rao looked elegant in a golden sari. The two shared an ‘aww’ moment on the red carpet as the actor endearingly planted a kiss on Kiran’s cheek. The two were gracious hosts as they welcomed their guests. Aamir’s daughter Ira too was by her father’s side on his big day.
Karan Johar was one of the early birds at the party. The filmmaker heaped praises on the actor as he said, “Aamir is a game-changer and he has given mainstream cinema a new voice.” Celebrated singer Asha Bhosle too was all praise for the film as she said, “I had decided not to watch the film as I don’t like to watch wrestling. But ‘Dangal’ is a beautiful film and Aamir is a brilliant actor.”
‘Dangal’ girls – Fatima Sana Shaikh and Sanaya Malhotra – posed on the red carpet with their on-screen mom Sakshi Tanwar. While Fatima looked gorgeous in a black number, Sanya showed off her glamorous side in a one-shoulder dress. Zaira Wasim too wouldn’t miss the bash for the world. Director Nitesh Tiwari and wife Ashwini Iyer Tiwari were seen bonding with the guests.
The otherwise reclusive Rekha made it a point to attend the bash and congratulate Aamir in person. It was every photographer’s delight as the senior actress and Aamir posed together on the red carpet.
Vidya Balan walked in hand-in-hand with husband Siddharth Roy Kapur. The actress looked like a dream in a golden Anavila sari.
Alia Bhatt came in with director friend Ayan Mukerji. Shahid Kapoor looked suave in black and his wife Mira dazzled as always in a blue number. While Kriti Sanon showed off her toned pins in a short blue outfit, Sunny Leone looked ravishing in a black number. The red carpet witnessed a whole lot of bonding – if on one hand, veteran actresses Waheeda Rehman and Asha Parekh posed together, on the other hand, former beauty queens Dia Mirza and Lara Dutta were seen chatting nineteen to the dozen.
Filmmaker Vidhu Vinod Chopra graced the event. The ‘3 idiots’ producer was quite forthright in asserting that Aamir is not the sole reason behind the film’s immense success. He said, “Aamir Khan is not the king, the story of ‘Dangal’ is the king. Even if the film didn’t have Aamir and had Hrithik Roshan, even then it would work at the box-office.”
Others at the party included Jeetendra with son Tusshar, Anil Kapoor, Kapil Sharma, Randhir Kapoor, Imran Khan and Randeep Hooda.
On BR’s blog someone wondered why srk is most hated? I left this comment there.
Why srk is hated the most among the Khans? there are so many theories going around. His boasting. Alleged award manipulation. Media manipulation and having PR done by some mediawallahs. His hamming instead of acting and getting away with it. Playing minority card to get sympathy. Too much air and little substance. Ego.
Yes, he is working very hard. But that hardwork is not always about acting and doing good cinema.
He has got some charisma and that charisma is working till today.
Sanjana – Agree with most of your points. But I don’t really think anyone will invest into a feeling like hatred. Its just that the things you said in above post were done so shamelessly and boasted so arrogantly that apart from SRK fans and PR machinery no one could stand it any longer. I think it was a very gradual process though which became more vocal a decade back.
Though he continues to have a loyal fanbase for good reasons. He is good, but was never as good as he was made out to be. Some still believe in the hype he had created despite numerous failures in last decade or so. Again mainly due to his PR machinery. I really admire his PR skills though and his wit really helps him.
I answered someone who said why there is so much hatred for him. It can also be a perception. Hatred is a strong word but then it can be said that some irritation is there.
The early estimates of Saturday are 4 cr or so for both Kaabil and Raees. That is hardly any growth from Friday. Both movies are goner, but then again Roshan is claiming 9 cr on Saturday and started his 100 cr propaganda.
Raees probably is touching 120 cr by now (till saturday) and Kaabil perhaps 85 cr or so.
Raees will probably end up at 130 cr and Kaabil in 90-95 cr range. Dont think there will be too much losses involved for both, but no way these two can be counted as ‘success’ of any sort.
One good thing that has come out of these BO manipulations is that the sites that were quoting producer totals are now more confident about their own tracking numbers and are shunning the producer totals which look fishy.
It will be interesting if Jolly LLB 2 grosses more than 130 cr of Raees.
@pktalli,u were right i managed to see D3 uk collns on boxofficemojo,it is showing 4.44m$ for D3 in UK but how does that converts into 2.71mpounds which BOI is showing.taking converter of 0.81, 4.44m$ is almost 3.6mpounds.it means BOI is doing some forgery with aamir films compared to SRK films in overseas collns.
Aamir announced that he will shooting for TOH from May this year. TOH in my book is the right commercial movie to follow up an intense film like Dangal.
Aamir is always good in mixing things up. He did a Ghajini after TZP, a Dhoom after Talaash and now TOH after Dangal.
TOH seems to be an action packed adventure film in a period setting, which sounds quite promising. Waiting for Diwali 2018!
It is exciting to see Aamir go back to a period setting. Reminds me of Lagaan and Mangal Pandey days. Lagaan was a hoot. But I liked Mangal Pandey more. The craze for MP was at its peak (specially after DCH). Had to stand in a long queue to get tickets in the first place and watched it in a jam packed theater in first week.
The movie didnt do much at box office after week one. But the opening was super and it recovered its costs.
BOI is giving 4 cr for kaabil sat while official fig. is 9.22 cr.spechless at the manipulation.i am waiting for red chillies calculation.as per BOI even raees has also done 4 cr on sat.bollyarena is saying 4.25 cr for kaabil sat.means kaabil has beaten raees for sat.Also 100 cr (106 cr)has been crossed for kaabil as per filmkraft,while BOI is giving 73.5 cr for kaabil.diff of 33 cr 11 days.(45% difference,beats even K3). http://www.koimoi.com/box-office/kaabils-day-wise-box-office-collections-in-india/
As per estimates from bollyarena, indicine and addatoday, Kaabil figure is somewhere in between BOI’s 73 cr and Roshan’s 106 cr. BOI is probably under-reporting Kaabil.
But their Raees number is in the same range with other estimates.
It is good to have the estimates from more sites than just BOI and producers, as they indicate the range in which the actual collections probably are.
@marcus,it is not an in between fig,much more manipulation has been done by filmkaft.Kaabil is max at 85 cr though indicine wld be having it even lower than 85cr,as from last few days,kaabil manipulation has reached pinnacle.but ya even BOI is underreporting kaabil as well.might have done the same with K3 as well.
A spades a spade.
Every party is manipulated.
RR is over reporting to greatest degree.
Then RCE and Excel over reporting.
BOI is under reporting Kaabil and with high probability previous HR films. I know for sure when I was estimating figures they under reported Krrish in 2006. Now their under reporting might be in some people’s minds within a certain threshold. But that’s only right If all collections of ALL movies went in that direction. They don’t, based on this they have leverage to fudge commentary and verdicts.
The estimate sites are wrong as they waited too long to expose the trade and producers. If you have the data use it.
Isn’t reporting manipulated nos. by any party some sorta cheating. I mean if the nos. are without any basis isn’t there some legal mechanism that can audit. And how does paying of taxes work out??
Kaabil (Hindi) showed growth of around 60% on its second Saturday which was a little better than Raees and the collections were in the same range to Raees on day eleven with 4 crore nett. This has taken the total of the film to 73.50 crore nett which is not good.
There was an excuse in the first weekend as Raees was strong but even that does not mean you collect just 31 crore nett over the first three days and that too when one is a big national holiday but this week Raees has low occupancy so is not much of a factor but the problem is the occupancy of Kaabil is only slightly better. The business of Kaabil till date is as follows.
First Week – 67,00,00,000 (nine days)
Friday – 2,50,00,000
Saturday – 4,00,00,000
Second Weekend – 6,50,00,000 (Two days)
TOTAL – 73,50,00,000
The film is now leading Raees in terms of daily collections in Delhi /UP, East Punjab, Rajasthan, CI and Bihar while in other circuits Raees is leading barring Mumbai where both films are same with a little over 1 crore nett.
Raees Second Saturday Business
Sunday 05 February 2017 11.00 IST
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Raees showed growth of around 50% which is the normal trend for the second weekend. The film collected four crore nett on the second Saurday taking its 11 day total 118.50 crore nett. The growth on the second Saturday is not huge as films can grow 80-100%. Although here the film has had an extended first week so growth was always likely to be less.
The film will cross the business of other Republic day week releases like Agneepath and Airlift shortly but its still an under performance. Even taking into account the clash the film still managed to open and the problem has been holding. The business of Raees till date is as follows.
First Week – 1,11,75,00,000 (nine days)
Friday – 2,75,00,000
Saturday – 4,00,00,000
Second Weekend – 6,75,00,000 (two days)
TOTAL – 1,18,50,00,000 apprx
The business of Kaabil has caught up with Raees for the first time since they released as both films have grossed similar amounts on the second Saturday. Kaabil could go ahead of Raees possibly on Sunday or one of the weekdays
Official fig. for raees sat is 8 cr,while BOI is having 4 cr.manipulation of 100% though still lesser than Filmkraft.this is damaging for SRK’s reputation.
âTill today I never signed a film on the basis of its capability to do business. I prefer to choose a film from my heart. All the films Iâve done till now are those which touched my heart,â he said.
ââTaare Zameen Parâ, â3 Idiotsâ, âRang De Basantiâ or âSarfaroshâ, when I did those films, I never thought they would do such a good business. If you take âDangalâ as an example, I played a role of an aged and heavy wrestler. There are no romantic songs or any typical formula to become a blockbuster. Therefore, we never predicted that the film would be such a big hit,â he added.
âI would never do films like âDhobi Ghatâ with Kiran if I have ever thought of doing films by its number.â Bollywoodâs Mr. Perfectionist told the reporters.
Asked if he wants to take forward the success internationally, Aamir said that for him the most respectable award is his audienceâs love.
âOther than this, I do not think about any other awards.â
Aamir also spoke about the recent attack of a mob on the âPadmavatiâ set in Jaipur.
Saying that the attack on Sanjay Leela Bhansali as âunfortunateâ, the 51-year-old actor said: âTaking law in our own hand is not legal for anyone. What has happened is very wrong and saddening. The people of Rajasthan are very much lovable and sensible. My experience with the people and the place was very good.â
âWhen a small group does this kind of an act, then the entire populattion gets a wrong name. This is very regrettable,â he said.
I watched the video and found it quite sweet, that Aamir was publicly acknowledging his wife — who is said to be a very involved co-producer. I think he meant it in a nice way , like I am her king, and she is my queen sort of thing. Why remind the poor chap about his first failed marriage?âşď¸ The media also asked him about Valentine’s Day and Aamir quipped that ‘ for us every day is Valentine’s Day.’ Biwi smiled along. I guess they have learnt to accept each other beyond the pin pricks over an 11 year marriage that can sometimes spill on to the public stage, as with any celebrity.
Filmmaker Kabir Khan says that the cameo in Salman Khan starrer âTubelightâ was screaming for superstar and hence Shah Rukh Khan graciously agreed to do the role.
âI am not going to divulge much details about the role. Let the film come out. It is a cameo, which was screaming for a superstar so we went to Shah Rukh and asked to do the special role. He graciously agreed to do it,â Kabir said at the success party of âDangalâ on Saturday night.
The âBajrangi Bhaijaanâ helmer also spoke about his planning to work with âKaabilâ star Hrithik Roshan.
Shah Rukh graciously agreed to do cameo in ‘Tubelight’: Kabir Khan
Shah Rukh graciously agreed to do cameo in âTubelightâ: Kabir Khan
âUsually I donât announce my next project until my film gets released. Iâve a long-standing relation with Hrithik. Obviously, I had a chat with him and we keep discussing but nothing is finalised yet,â said Kabir, who also hopes to see âKaabilâ in the coming week.
Kabir expressed his happiness at the huge success of Aamir Khan starrer âDangalâ and said the film is well-deserved to become highest grossing film.
âTubelightâ is written and directed by Kabir Khan. Based on 1962 Sino-Indian War, this historical war drama also features Chinese actress Zhu Zhu, Shatrughan Sinha, and the late Om Puri among others.
I really think SRK should retire or take a break for 3-4 years, spend time with family, go on a vacation, do some advertisements, instrospect and make a comeback as an alternate hero.
He is already doing it. It’s no longer a choice now. Someone compared him to Rajesh Khanna the other day. I disagreed because Raees was still showing promise. But the way it has folded is shocking and shows that signs are now there. I hope I am wrong like many here.
I don’t agree as he had had breaks lasting for a year in between his one movie release to the next. After RNBDJ, his next MNIK came after almost 14 months & a bigger gap of almost 20 months or more than 1.5 years in his next release in Ra-1 in Oct. 2011!! So this break theory doesn’t make sense as he is not in his prime where he could afford such gaps & also feeble box office performances of his previous few movies which don’t give him the luxury to bask in the glory of his last mammoth successes like Salman & Aamir can! So rather than taking a break he should relax a bit & let his directors do what they would like to do with him with out pandering to his stardom & his image becoming the handicap in not being able to realise their vision in its totality. This is what happened with Rohit Shetty in Dil Wale where he could not make what he actually wanted to only because of the external pressures I mentioned above as he kept vacillating between his sensibilities to catering to the expectations of Shahrukh-Kajol combo fans which resulted in half-backed recipe of Dil Wale!! If Rohit Shetty had stuck to his belief & sensibilities, which he did while making CE, Dil Wale would not have been such a hotchpotch niether here or there!!
I partially agree with what Vidhu Vinod Chopra said about Dangal and Aamir.
Dangal is a movie where Aamir was the third best actor after the girls. The movie could become genuine because of its strong supporting cast. In fact the story was about Geetha Phogat. It’s another matter that the girls did not get the recognition in the awards they deserved to win. So any other good actor in place of Aamir would have given an equally good movie.
What i do not agree is that the movie had been equally successful. Aamir brought in huge credibility and honesty by giving his physicality for the role. This dedication is exemplary and don’t think any other actor barring Tom Hanks or Leonardo DiCaprio could have done it.
Aamir fans could not understand that VVC actually gave the best compliment to Dangal. Unfortunately for fans, hero is bigger than the movie and hence all joined and attacked VVC like the Karni Sena. Someone rightly said – Aamir Khan’s fans are showing intolerant behaviour known with SRK earlier.
No other actor in the industry has the balls to put on that kind of a weight (and then loose it for a 30 second clip). No other actor in the industry has the balls to spend 2 years on a movie like this (or any movie..I mean which actor spends two years on a movie). VVC must have had a brain fart when he made that comment. There is a reason Aamir movies make what they make…he has earned this reputation. People don’t come to the theatres to watch movie with Aamir Khan! They come to watch an Aamir Khan movie! Some people still don’t know the difference!
Aamir as third best actor after the girls? No, I don’t think that’s right. Aamir did his job perfectly , as needed, neither underplaying nor hamming. He was pitch perfect.
Actually Aamir is the first person to admit that the girls and Sakshi did a fabulous job, that their understanding and execution of their characters was quick, that he laboured more. But, and this is my point, Aamir’s labour bore fruit. He never came across as the actor Aamir, but managed to immerse himself well into the character.
The girls were terrific and have been recognized as such by the audience.
VV Chopra is a bit like Ram Gopal Varma — blunt, outspoken and graceless. You don’t attend an actor’s success party and use the occasion to snidely diss him.
Dangal would not have reached where it did if anybody other than Aamir had produced the film. Aamir is known to take keen interest in every aspect of filmmaking. Even the songs ( like the iconic , intelligent and hilarious Hanikarak Bapu) were written and composed in Aamir’s Panchgani home. The same process was followed when the music of Tare Zameen Par was being composed.
Here is revealing interview from Dangal Director Nitesh Tiwari. Do read it to the end.
But also — ignore the mischievous headline and loaded questions from an interviewer who has obviously not appreciated the film, understood its spirit or its essence.
It’s dubious and disingenuous to suggest Dangal with any other actor would create the same result. It is because of Aamir’s credibility and reputation that the film was taken seriously. If Dangal and Sultan released opposite, the surprise elements of Dangal would dwarf any entertainment value Sultan has to offer. VVC and people believing this rubbish are persistent and persuaded into believing John Abraham can do the same.
Basically the theory is any great script can be acted by ME and be super result. Even worse than this, the film I produced and acted in will do wonders. Only haters put forward such stupid arguments. So basically every actor is the same, everything depends on the content. What utter garbage! And we are meant to view this as a HUGE compliment. Give me a break!
It is not even about giving Aamir all credit. It’s about ones own dignity in making or putting forward such arguments. VVC’s Parinda was fine as I recall. At the time Anil Kapoor and Jackie Shroff were seen as brothers on and off screen. So he believes any Tom, Dick & Harry can carry off that lineage that the cast offered. Let’s face it Hirani’s the ONLY reason we get to listen to this overrated director who according to the BOI (THE FINAL SAY IN INDUSTRY) gave the industry’s biggest ever disaster in Broken Horses.
Aamir literally risked his life for this film. After putting on weight and doing the major portion of the film, Aamir is said to have given it in writing — that if the need arose and his younger- leaner portion needed to be done by another actor — then please chose Ranveer Singh or Ranbir Kapoor for that role. Meaning, if I kick the bucket during this risky process of quick weight loss — go ahead, complete the film with these guys.
Which actor would be so madly committed to a film?
As a fan of Aamir such a comment is fine. But if one twists it to suggest anyone else can do the same, one is inadvertently dismissing Aamir’s contribution. He can be the worst actor in any great film IMO. But don’t suggest or insinuate any actor can replicate what he clearly brings to the table as a filmmaker. People turn up to his films expecting a good film not something flat. He’s earnt that goodwill after years of creating that brand. No one can just waltz in and be the same. A Chinese maker of phones can’t just become Apple overnight.
On the actorâs part, Barjatya made hay with Salman but could not do so with Hrithik & Kareena. The actors of MPK and HAHK had the same sugary and corny lines and behaved coyly and weirdly on screen but watch the difference to outcome when the same accomplished director hired so called good actors like Hrithik and Kareena and the results of those corny scenes in Main Prem Ki Diwani Hoon. Audience rushed for the first exit…… So itâs not that director and story can do everything and actor is the last in chain. Not in India at least.
Why is that story and accomplished directors not able to produce one superstar in 25 years.
Kal Ho Na Ho with similar corny scene and joke somewhat became classic of its time for Johar but sadly he could not do the same with a similar ADHM inspite of having that beautiful title track and hit ost because cast does not have the same credibility and connection. Even with Diwali release it all meh…..
Vijjie you are getting more delusional & snooty after the failure of Raees which is compelling you to revel in taking vicarious pleasure by inventing such infantile fantasies & attributing such mean remark which are also your own invention to Amitabh Bachchan just to buttress your outlandish claims! Give us any link to support your bogus claim which you are attributing to AB! This is height of jealousy where one wants to see one’s favourite at the top by hook or crook even if that means pulling other more successful ones down, is not only shameful but devoid of any logic whatsoever!!
There was no such comment or even a milder one insinuating the same from AB, never!! It is all vijjie’s figment of imagination to dwarf Aamir’s stature & achievements to make Shahrukh bigger & better as if that were possible!! But let him take this fanciful flight as that might alleviate the pain & suffering he has been going through due to Shahrukh’s recent failures & underperformers!!
I wud love to give you a link when I can find it..but don’t think that all people cook up stories just to pull stars down, as some of you do about SRK!
But I can tell you a little more about this comment which I saw on TV..and I am sure many here who follow Amitabh Bachchan so passionately must have seen it also..It was said on one of the channels a few years ago, where he was picking his favourite films post independence or some landmark like that. I think the channel was NDTV and his list featured both Lagaan and Swades. About Lagaan, this comment of his surprised me, and that’s why it is remembered still..while about Swades he said he cud see the conviction in SRK’s acting.. đ
Even if he said so, that does not make aamir a lesser actor in Lagaan. Everyone has a right to express what they feel about acting. Even aamir said something about Black and that hurt Bachchan a lot. And Bachchan said about Delhi Belly being a shit film or some such thing as it clashed with BHTB but aamir did not react or expressed hurt feelings in both the cases. These things do happen and actors move on. Otherwise both will not be acting in a movie.
Hard to believe!!! Anyways, IMO, Bhuvan and Aakash were the performances that have made Aamir Khan what he is today. Like it or not since then he has been giving acting lessons to rest of Bollywood. And later BO lessons. Only thing I dislike is the 3-4 yr break that happened between 2001 and 2005. I think Aamir was in terrific acting form during those times. He was pulling off some terrific acting in 25 seconds ads too back then.
All this is reminding me of RGV’s comment about the actor who played waiter in that famous ac scene with Aamir in Rangeela being better actor than Aamir!! So you have another staunch supporter in RGV besides of course you who feels that way for Aamir by shoving off your own agenda in making Shahrukh seem bigger & better this way as this is the only way left!! Even for a second, just to mitigate your long sufferings a little less, assume what AB said is to be true (mind you just assuming until you give us concrete proof ;), what does that prove except that AB found one actor’s acting better or more natural than Aamir in Lagaan other than it was his opinion which is very subjective & it doesn’t take anything away from Aamir’s outstanding performance considerded to be one of the best of all times!! I hope he wasn’t saying Shahrukh’s K3G performance to be better than Aamir’s & Shahrukh “deserved” all the best actor awards for his natural acting that year!!
I’m amused at the perplexing state of Shahrukh’s fans where they are feeling “ecstatic” about AB’s one particular comment about Aamir’s performance in Lagaan as they have nothing else left to revel in their own idol’s recent films & their box office debacles so now they are busy excavating Aamir’s past to bring him down & jettison their sense of despair & frustration at its pinnacle!! I can just wish that they get to see the light rather quickly as this continous gloom can jeopardize their mental well-being!!
For the record I found Salman’s “acting better than Shahrukh’s in Karan Arjun đ Does that prove anything, if any let me discover!!
On “the waiter was better” comment, RGV did indeed say it, but years later, he clarified the situation while making it, and how it got deliberately misrepresented.
M’aamir, and i found Salman much better than Aamir in AAA, do you mind?
What I said was on the context and it was said by BigB not me, and you shud be concerned about his agenda in saying that rather than mine..and properly warn Aamir before acting with him in the next. Khuda na kare, he don’t hijack Aamir’s next 400 cr venture!
I will agree the Bachchans don’t have any particular soft corner for Aamir. On the other hand, Aamir adores Big B.
Amitabh is neutral on Aamir, but there is no love there either as far as I can tell. Big B is friendly, cordial and respectful towards Aamir, nothing more. I remember, he did not explicitly support Aamir during the Fanaa controversy. He went as far as to say that people objecting to him have as much democratic rights as Aamir does. Again, he took up the Incredible India campaign (I’m not sure it actually materialised). But that was another example of him not really standing up for Aamir. But then Big B for all his greatness as an actor has probably learnt it through the hard way never to take a stand. No one should rely on him to stand up for them. He just won’t. Of course, he spoke out against Harsha Bhogle’s commentary, leading to his sacking. But then Bhogle is a small fry and Big B is close now to the establishment.
Anyway, fact being he seems least close to Aamir among the Khans. I don’t see the Bachchans at any of Aamir’s events really. But then, are they at anyone else’s apart from their own or some usual suspect like Mukesh Ambani? They are a bit too full of themselves to accord anyone else any special privilege, but their stature is still altogether formidable.
So I agree, Bachchan’s equation with Aamir is nothing more than cordial, but I don’t really believe he said anything except great things about Lagaan. He had a small stake in the film, given he was the narrator, and I remember him writing a review of the film and calling it the most perfect film he has seen. Aamie Khan’s performance in Lagaan is too great for Bachchan or anyone to say it was underwhelming or whatever, forget saying everyone else in it was better! He may have indirectly paid a compliment by saying this is a rare film where the supporting cast outshines even the lead, but that can be said about so many films from Chak De to Sarfarosh to Sholay! I’m not suggesting he said this, but even if he did, I don’t think he meant to undermine Aamir.
Finally, even if he did, facts don’t change. I’m not a fan of Aamir’s performance in a number of films. Liked him in all his 90s films where he was very natural. HE is not great when cast against type – RDB, DCH IMO. Rangeela is an exception though. he was extraordinary there. And Lagaan is everything he personifies as a star and actor – earnest, brave, morally upright, people’s man. He just wouldn’t get that wrong!
Sandyi you have encapsulated the equation bit between AB & Aamir very poetically & succinctly. On your casting against the type take, I politely disagree as Aamir the actor in RDB surpasses Aamir in Lagaan IMO & I consider Aamir’s DJ performance as one among his top 5 others being PK, Sarfarosh, Rangeela & 1947 Earth the other 4. Even DCH & AAA acts of Aamir I like more than the Lagaan one, but Lagaan’s is a seminal performance for sure. Another thing I concur with you that Aamir’s 90’s performances were more natural than the post 2000 ones.
vijjie you have my full sympathies as recent box office performances of Shahrukh’s movies is forcing you to take this alternate route of fanciful flights!! But landing can be perilous after such adventurous flights, take care!!
I do remember AB saying something on the lines of the actors who played the villagers being more natural than Aamir. He also said that one can notice Aamir being very methodical on screen. But yeah it seems that woh comments Itihaas ke panno mein kaheen kho gayee đ
No, he liked it a lot. He was quite effusive in his praise for the movie. Mother will always be proud if her baby is praised more. It is nice of him to think of Dilip Kumar and Ganga Jumna. Bachchan himself is from UP and so his love for Avadhi is understandable.
Your logic is contradictory as it would mean Airlift, Baby, Special 26, Rustom would have had the same result with any other star in Akshay’s place as the stories were the paramount reason behind these films success regardless of actors starring in them!! And if we go by your theory, then Sholays, Mother Indias, Guides, MEAs, DDLJs, Lagaans, Hera Pheris to be just as good & successful even when we replace the actors of these movies with any other actors based on your support of VVC’s childish hypothesis that “STORY” is the “KING”!! A movie like Dangal or TZP or RDB or Lagaan would not be 1/100th of what they turned out to be if they would have starred any other actor other than Aamir!! And if VVC claims are gospel truth then why credit Shahrukh behind the success of all his movies or his stardom as they would have been equally as successful had Aamir or Akshay or even Emraan Hashmi acted in them as all of them had “KING STORY” to ensure success!!
BREAKING AWAY FROM THE BARD
By Kunal Guha, Mumbai Mirror | Feb 5, 2017
Breaking away from the Bard
Ahead of his upcoming love story, the National Award winner on raking in more credibility than money, his roster of shelved projects, and why heâd rather be a fool.
When Vishal Bhardwaj announced Rangoon, his upcoming love story set in the time of World War II, many felt the filmmaker was done with Shakespeare adaptations. But when we meet him at his tastefully furnished Andheri office, he points to a crowded book shelf adjacent to his desk and says, âThereâs still a lot left. I can adapt every Shakespeare play.â That said, he has chosen to take a break from the Bardâs works because âbohot ho gayaâ. âAnd adaptations have made me lazy as it gives you a ready structure. I want to do something original,â says the National Award winner. The original idea for Rangoon emerged from a script lab organised by Mira Nairâs film school in Kampala, Uganda, in 2004, where Bharadwaj was mentored by American screenwriter Mathew Robbins (Crimson Peak). But for reasons largely to do with finance, the film was shelved two months prior to production. It was an âambitious filmâ and the filmmaker wasnât âmature enoughâ to have made it then. âBecause you are judged by your last film (or films) and since this one demanded a huge canvas and was expensive, it wasnât being made for so long. Over the years, VFX evolved by leaps and I matured as a filmmaker to achieve that vision within a budget.â
But this isnât his first to be indefinitely held. âMy first film Barf, starring Manoj Bajpayee and Sushmita Sen, and to be produced by Ajay Devgn, didnât happen as Ajay had suffered losses with another film at the time.â Others include Aamir Khan-starrer Mr Mehta Mrs Singh, Dream Sequence and Mehmaan. âThere are various reasons why a film gets shelved, itâs not always finance,â he says, adding that the Khanstarrer is the one he regrets the most. âI saw Dangal and really liked it.â This rare compliment must be well-deserved as Bhardwaj decidedly avoids Hindi films. âI donât relate to them and since I am a part of the same industry, it becomes a problem,â he says, adding that he is addicted to Netflix and loves Black Mirror and The Americans.
For the rest follow the link: http://mumbaimirror.indiatimes.com/others/sunday-read/breaking-away-from-the-bard/articleshow/56979038.cms
“This rare compliment must be well-deserved as Bhardwaj decidedly avoids Hindi films. âI donât relate to them and since I am a part of the same industry, it becomes a problem,â”
ha ha ha – look who is talking here – that is why his films are bombing at the BO – I just don’t look forward to his films anymore since many years now – what an overrated and self-obsessed copycat of shakespear……
Looks like Producer numbers of #Kaabil are very close to official numbers .. and #Raees numbers are heavily inflated from last Monday to stay in game. Atleast CI numbers suggested this which are 2.5 times of Raees …… but officially both Raees and Kaabil given same.
What? Producers numbers for Kaabil are not even close to actual numbers? Raees is off as well but Kaabil is going the Krrish 3 way with the help of Papa Roshan’s calculator.
Producer total for Kaabil has reached 118 cr. Whereas the estimates from bollyarena, indicine etc are around 90 cr only. RR has over reported by 20 cr or so.
The estimates for Raees is around 125 cr (same as BOI). Red Chillies is also over reporting numbers.
When she was 18, long before her Bollywood debut, Kangana Ranaut ran into a man who was doing gymnastics at Juhu Beach. Impressed, she asked the man, Surya Narayan Singh, to teach her how to do what he was doing. Since then, the actor has been learning yoga from Singh.
Now, HT has learnt that the actor has gifted her two-bedroom apartment in Andheri to Singh in a bid to help him start a yoga centre. âThe apartment has a spacious balcony, where the yoga classes will be conducted,â says an insider.
Kangana Ranaut will next be seen in Vishal Bhardwajâs Rangoon.
Apparently, Kanganaâs apartment is worth more than Rs 2 crore. âItâs a kind gesture from Kangana, but she feels itâs her âguru dakshinaâ to Singh, who has been a pillar of strength in her life right from the start. He has never asked her for anything like that, but the actor felt that she should do something for him,â the insider says.
Kangana isnât just gifting Singh the posh apartment. The actor is apparently also helping him refurbish the place so it looks like âa nice yoga centreâ. âIn fact, Kangana visited the apartment a few days ago to instruct the contractor how to design and redo the house,â the insider says.
Kangana Ranautâs career took a big turn with Queen. (HT Photo)
The actor is ensuring the proposed centre will have everything that is needed, from personal lockers to health amenities. âSince she will be recommending the yoga centre to everyone, the actor wants everything to be of high quality. She has always been sensitive to people around her,â says the insider.
Kangana had also gifted another two-bedroom apartment to her sister, Rangoli Chan
Karan Johar can be accused of many things but not of being egoistical as a filmmaker. He has ditched the uber cool setting in favour of a Hindi heartland, in keeping with recent hits. Plenty of influences from here and there. Don’t think the film is going to be a breakout film in any sense, and Varun Dhawan also gives me the sense of a guy who is trying too hard to stand out, but sadly he has nothing original to offer. His act is a stereotype.
Filmmaker Rajkumar Hirani’s biopic film on Sanjay Dutt is witnessing many changes with every passing day. The film will showcase many aspects of Baba’s personal and professional life. Due to the controversies that had been revolving around him for so many years, it is becoming difficult for the makers to portray it on the big screens.
The film was also supposed to have Sanju’s love life, but now the makers are facing another challenge if they want to incorporate it!
When we talk about Sanjay Dutt’s love story, how can one not mention about his alleged and famous relationship with Madhuri Dixit. But it seems that the ‘Dhak Dhak girl’ isn’t in agreement with it.
Madhuri Dixit Nene is reported to have asked the makers to strike out the part (her and Sanjay’s relationship) from the script.
A tabloid quoted a source stating, “Initially, Sanjay’s alleged affair with Madhuri was a part of the biopic. But when the married actress got to know about this, she quickly rushed to Rajkumar and asked him to remove this bit from the movie. Their relationship is one of the most highlighted part of Sanjay’s life, but considering the actress’ current stature, she disapproved of the part. Left with no option, Hirani had to eliminate it from the film”. (sic)
Sanjay Dutt’s biopic will feature Ranbir Kapoor playing the title role. The film also stars Dia Mirza, Sonam Kapoor, Anushka Sharma and Vicky Kaushal. It is slated to release sometime in December this year.
Damn! Most interesting part in his story, but I understand Madhuri’s concern. The narrative was that he was madly in love with her, and so was she. But when he was jailed etc – for terror activity – she obviously backed out. Love is not everything. Here. she was the very symbol of middle-class respectability. It just wasn’t in her sensibility to put romance above practical considerations.
But some of the media turn against her for not even visiting him in jail, forget standing by him. Madhuri has no way to know how exactly this episode will be portrayed in the film, and any negative tone can damage her reputation. So she’s right in one sense. But as an audience, this is very disappointing.
Happy to see Huma Quereshi in this film. She’s a lovely actress. Also, glad Akshay is not sticking to a tiredly conventional choice for his heroine (hot, sexy, decorative). First the Lunch Box heroine and now Huma. Just the change in choice of heroines suggests to me that his films are evolving.
Raees Has Big Drop In Second Weekend
Monday 06 February 2017 12.30 IST
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Raees had a big drop in collections in the second weekend and even if we take the Fri – Sun period last week which was not exactly its first weekend the drop is nearly 75%. The collections in the second weekend are 11.75 crore nett which takes the business to 121.50 crore nett. The second weekend collections are not much better than Dear Zindagi which was a little short of 10 crore nett.
The difference between Raees and Kaabil is the initial and it is that which makes the film safe. The big numbers it took over the first five days has pulled it through and this was what Kaabil was not able to do. On Sunday Raees had lower collections than Kaabil for the first time. The business of Raees till date is as follows.
First Week – 1,10,05,00,000 (nine days)
Friday – 2,75,00,000
Saturday – 4,00,00,000
Sunday – 4,75,00,000
Second Weekend – 11,50,00,000 apprx
TOTAL – 1,21,55,00,000 apprx
It is circuits like Mumbai, Nizam / Andhra, Mysore, Tamil Nadu / Kerala and West Bengal which have aided the film and although these are down in the second weekend they outperformed the rest of India in the initial staged due to the presence of Shahrukh Khan. North India under performed from day one and its the multiplex business in these parts which is biggest disappointment.
i think raees isn’t even doing 20cr nett in second week.to put into prespective,dangal did 112 cr nett in second week.i think even second weekend was also abt 68cr nett.
Kaabil (Hindi) had a low second weekend of 11.75 crore nett apprx which has taken its total to 77.50 crore nett apprx. The growth over the weekend was decent and better than Raees but the collections are low and with under 78 crore nett in 12 days the film is not going anywhere.
The problem for Kaabil is not the second weekend but the first day collections. The film was crushed by Raees with just 8 crore nett coming on day one and that is where it lost any chance it did. The reports had to be good to survive that sort of start and here the were mediocre which did not show when it was a holiday but on normals day the collections went down to report levels. The business of Kaabil till date is as follows.
First Week – 65,74,00,000 (nine days)
Friday – 2,50,00,000
Saturday – 4,00,00,000
Sunday – 5,25,00,000
Second Weekend – 11,75,00,000 apprx
TOTAL – 77,49,00,000 apprx
The second weekend business of the film is very similar to Raees and it may finish the second week with a slightly higher number than Raees but that 44 crore nett lead for Raees over the extended first week will stay. Kabil may be able to cut it down by a crore or two by the end of its run but thats about it.
I think Raees crash is more notable than Kaabil’s trending. Both movies collected a paltry 12 cr in second weekend. Max estimates for Kaabil is around 90 cr (unless one takes RR seriously) and will probably not even cross 100 cr.
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the last major Johar release and now a major SRK one will combine for something like 230 cr. Salman gets 200 in a Barjatya flop. How times have changed. There’s a reason one should have some humility in life but especially so in a roller coaster business like the movies. This applies to the fans also. I remember all the excessive things SRK fans used to say all those years ago. Today people are saying he’s in Akshay’s league or whatever (by the way I don’t agree with this at all). Even more sober voices know there’s a gulf between him and Salman/Aamir. Once when Aamir was getting success after Lagaan both SRK and his fans would say ‘yeah but who has the biggest grossers?’. Things change and when you fail it’s easy for people to ridicule you. It’s not a question of whether the criticism or the ridicule is deserved or not. But it’s symptomatic. Of course human nature being what it is people still don’t realize this. Once Johar would have the most smug things to say about his films and so on, he and those like him didn’t have the time of day for anyone not called SRK (recently in an interview Johar even admitted that he thought Aamir was finished after DCH or whatever it was.. this was Aamir post-Lagaan, not even Salman). Today he’s reduced to saying ‘I always knew my film couldn’t do more than 100’, today he has to praise Salman at the drop of a hat (or Aamir). Again no one learns. We see some other fans doing the same at the moment for their favorites.
Its not just Johar, many thought Aamir was finished during the 3-4 years break he took between DCH and MP for personal reasons. Lagaan and DCH were landmark movies, but at BO Lagaan was just a Hit (not a Blockbuster like Gadar) and DCH was only a metro-Hit. So those who count only Blockbusters failed to understand the impact and consequences that Lagaan and DCH were going to have later in his career.
MP when it came took a bumper opening (its a different matter that it didnt sustain). But after that he had thoroughly reaped the fruits of his labor in Lagaan and DCH.
Btw, I consider Akshay a major star (not in the league of Aamir/Salman, but he is right there after them). Comparing SRK to Akshay was a way to say that he is still a major star around, but hardly in the top level anymore.
MP was just like Raees or Dilwale. It’s opening showcased Aamirs star power that he had accrued due to Lagaan and DCH. Even though MP fizzled, any keen BO observer should’ve by then realized that Aamir had arrived finally to the top3. And ever since MP released, SRK never delivered another clean HGOY. (There is confusion betn OSO and D2). And since 2008, the picture became crystal clear with Ghajini comprehensively beating RNBDJ. In fact AK was a clear #1 since then, at least until Sallu joined the party with his resurgence after Dabang. And yet even Sallu has not been able to beat AK benchmark records which keep increasing the bar higher since Ghajini.
However, most SRK fans continued to keep their blinders on all the way even after disasters such as Fan. They kept finding excuses for every hit since RDB, constantly berating, undermining and abusing Aamir. But the #s always proved the Ranking. Its mighty amusing to see excuses for Fan or even JaiHo, but no quarter is given by the same folks to Talaash. And Talaash remains the only slight under-performer (had it made 5-6 more crores and crossed 100cr, nobody wouldve criticized it) in this Bull Run of Aamir since RDB.
well said – btw some interesting observations:
– Aamir has stopped attending the awards whereas SRK went for an overkill by hosting and dancing and cutting some cheap jokes year after year – he thought that this will make him more popular or whatever….
– Aamir didn’t fall for Thussad’s wax museum stuff
– Aamir didn’t attend Kapil Sharma or Big Boss kind of shows when every other star including SRK/Sallu keep going there
– He avoided romance in Dangal as script did not demand it (VV Chopra is crazy when he says Aamir wasn’t the reason here for its succes – without him Dangal wouldn’t have done even 50 cr forget anything more)
– Aamir has been continuously trying newer directors and newer scripts whereas SRK has started doing too late and he looks so jaded now in films
I think Sallu has kept his physique alright and he knows that ppl will accept him only in certain roles – so that leaves a huge gap between Aamir and the rest of the actors – I think BO wise it is Sallu but variety-wise I will put Akki on no 2 spot
I think in the last 6 years srk has under-estimated amir and salman..now he is paying the price for it and not only that amir khan has moved on according to time and thats why he is doing roles what people wants,where as srk was stuck in time and when he saw salman and amir doing films like gazini and kick or pk or sultan ,srk realised where he is going wrong,he tried those formula in which it back-fired on him..is it too late for srk ,nope i think he can still be huge success but he needs to find the right formula as he is getting old…I think villian is possibility there …bollywood is gone funny and been spoilt by akki,salman and amir by giving them quality films and srk has been stuck with similar roles ( rahul ) which is way outdated or you can say its a sour grapes status..srk is still there but only on star-power because initial of Raess has proved that..he is no 3 but now akki is breathing down his neck and there is ranveer,ranbir singh and others waiting in the wings..srk is still there but only just…
TZH or tubelight ,one of them surely will do 300cr and that will put another misery to srk ..
Agree, also the Imitiaz film is no guarantee at all. He showed great promise with Jab We Met, but following that most of his projects have just been strange, and not in a good way.
Also have to agree that with SRK being a distant third and Akki being a close fourth makes the number game interesting. Akki – if he gets two reasonably big hits can legitimately claim to be No 3 or at least jointly hold that position with SRK. I just don’t see why not, esp after the poor showing of Raees. When I saw the movie, i expected it to be a clean hit, given the buzz and the terrific initial. The content is not great, but it’s not poor either. Earlier, I didn’t think Diwale was particularly bad either. SRK has a wider and bigger fan following than Ranbir and Akshay (his immediate next competition) which guarantees a minimum initial, but when it comes to the neutral audience, all three are on the same level now.
The SRK camp has completely disintegrated and that tells you how much his currency has diminished. He does not elicit the same kind of loyalty and unqualified praise he commanded from folks like Adi, Johar, Farah and a whole lot of hangers on. Since all of them specialise in a certain kind of genre – romance, song and dance – sticking with SRK is not feasable anymore. The whole genre in its conventional avatar has reached a sell by date and it is no surprise that Farah, Adi and SRK are all struggling. Karan Johar being the astute one realised which way the wind was blowing and has correctly identified that his cinema has to change. He still isn;t everything right, but every now and then, he gets a decent hit through his production house. Last year, both ADHM and Kapoor and Sons added to his reputation as a venturesome producer-director.
clearly Kaka’s case (Rajesh Khanna) – he was stuck in a romantic hero image and could not come out of it and Bachchan ran him over there……Aamir has surprised every time…..no one expected him to be an action-hero and he gave Ghajini……and after that the surprise element has always been up his sleeves…..and I think he is the only hero-star-actor ppl really look forward and give respect to his body of work today in the way they do with no other star……
Why bother Rajesh Khanna still..Poor guy he had just 7 years at the top and never got back..we can find better examples to compare with him!
The more valid comparison is with Amitabh bachchan..I remember, when I was small, how when each of his film came out, it was touted to be the big comeback of bachchan..and nothing worked except Khuda gawah to an extent. I am reminded of that when some comments here say how SRK fans are hoping for a big one with each film of his..
And of course, bigb had an injury in between and then a failed career as an MP also..
And during this comeback period, he looked awful…it was a pain to see him romancing on the screen to be honest..
I just hope that SRK career doesn’t turn out the same way..since bachchan never got back to the position he was before. The villain was no one else, the time, age, took over and he couldnt go on being the same kind of hero any longer.
Imo, Raees is a good step..nobody faulted his acting or looks in this. Maybe late starting on the so called ‘acting’ path the other two khans are going..but surely, SRK is the more ‘gifted’ in that dept, as we all know!
I always despised any SRK comparison with Big B and I still do. No one has ever had Big B kinda superstardom. I don’t even want to discuss on this.
And yes for SRK fans SRK is a biggest star, most gifted actor and probably SUPERSPIDERBATMAN. And he also is IRON MAN and HULK on weekends..just for fun.for his fans and kids.
It’s only fair to have a look at the comparison..i do have some idea of how BigB’s later years went..before he reinvented in the current avatar..
On the topic of super stardom, different eras can have different measures of it..it not the same now as it was 20 years ago, or another 20 years ago.
It is also not a podium somewhere imaginary, where actors stand in 1,2,3 positions according to their box office results..it is more likely to be measured in the impact any star had on the audience for a considerable period, consistently..
And in that count, it definitely is Shah Rukh Khan who had that kind of impact from when he came on the screen upto now..after the Bachchan era. And this is a fact whether anybody despise it or not.
Nothing up to now. Up to 96 all 3 of SRK, Salman and Aamir delivered big hits like DDLJ, HAHK, RH. What you write off SRK makes sense abroad. In India he reigned supreme 98-04. That reign was more consistency then what you see now with Aamir and Salman. Since then he’s had 1 big year in India (07). Overseas he’s held well but the infamous top 20 hits predominantly SRK dominated are being wiped out systematically by Aamir mainly and then Salman. No one can rewrite history, SRK was there first. I remember his amazing foothold in places like Austria and Germany. But the money makers of China are outgrossing SRK films WW excluding India. Since 08, Aamir and Salman have done one on SRK.
But because of his history, one cannot write him off as he still has an initial. And now he’s found a calculator too.
SRK was never undisputed no. 1 like Bachchan for a decade or so. He fell flat whenever he wasn’t doing mushy mushy stuff. And his undisputed no. 1 status between 2002 – 2005 is because someone was in a sabatical. Anyways he was a top star, but bachchan he was never. He wasn’t unanimously liked by majority of people. So comparison with Bachchan is a nice fantasy but ..lol..
Shah Rukh Khan’s ‘Raees’ won’t release in Pakistan
PTI | Updated: Feb 6, 2017, 07.46 PM IST
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Pakistan’s censor board blocks Shah Rukh Khan-Mahira Khan starrer “Raees” for release in the country
Board finds film’s content and theme ‘objectionable’
Shah Rukh Khan during a promotional event of his film Raees (PTI photo)Shah Rukh Khan during a promotional event of his film Raees (PTI photo)
KARACHI: Pakistan’s censor board has not cleared Bollywood superstar Shah Rukh Khan-Mahira Khan starrer “Raees” for release in the country after finding the film’s content and theme objectionable.
“The portrayal of Muslims is negative and the film’s content undermines Islam, and a specific religious sect, (while also) portraying Muslims as criminals, wanted persons and terrorists,” an official source in the censor board said.
The distributors of “Raees”, Hum Films had last week submitted the film to the censor board for clearance to release in the Pakistani cinema halls after the government allowed screening of latest Bollywood movies last week.
A official with Hum Films declined to comment and said so far they had not got any official word from the censor board about banning “Raees.”
The lifting of the unofficial ban followed the release of a flow of latest Bollywood movies including “Kaabil” and “Ae Dil Hai Muskhil.”
“‘Raees’ will not release in Pakistan according to a decision taken by the censor board today,” the source told PTI.
“It shows Muslims in very negative light and could lead to reactions from different sects and it is unsuitable for public screening.”
Another source said that CBFC chairman Mobashir Hasan had backed the censor board members in their decision.
I see how Pakistan might find the film objectionable, given it does portray the Muslim community represented through Raees as being involved in illegal business and being a terror suspect. Given the Islamaphobia and the obvious issues around Islam-based terror activities, this is not the kind of film they necessarily feel good about projecting even to their own public.
This is not to suggest the film is particularly bold or plucky. In fact, the opposite.
I wonder if Mahira was chosen keeping in mind Pak collections. That has come a cropper now. Everything just going wrong for a film that had the best pre release buzz i have seen in a long time.
Good I’m glad. Serves SRK right by trying to play politics. No doubt mahira was chosen for this reason. Her role was so basic, any newcomer could’ve done it. Actually the Jolly LLB 2 trailer played in theaters before the movie which has Huma Qureshi and hindsight she would’ve been perfect in Raees too. Or Tabu. Even the overseas BO of Raees is nothing spectacular so hopefully SRK doesn’t play identity/religious politics again because it failed here…
A lot of studios follow boxofficeindia.com for figures, where numbers are sometimes 20 to 25 per cent lower than what the producers claim a lot of times. A distributor, who didn’t want to be named, told TOI, “BoxofficeIndia.com has authentic numbers, most from the fraternity follow this when tracking one another’s films. But when it comes to their own films, they track the sites that show inflated numbers.”
The disparity in box-office numbers can even be seen in the case of recent big releases, ‘Raees’ and ‘Kaabil’. According to Boxofficeindia.com, Shah Rukh Khan’s ‘Raees’ collected approximately Rs 1,10,05,00,000 in 9 days. However, according to Bollywoodhungama.com, the same film was reported to have collected Rs 122.36 crore at the end of Week One. For ‘Kaabil’. Boxofficeindia.com reported that the film had earned approximately Rs 65,74,00,000 in 9 days. In sharp contrast, Bollywoodhungama.com reported that Hrithik Roshan’s film garnered Rs 90.55 crore in the same span.
Such disparity was even seen in the case of Diwali release ‘Shivaay’. While Bollywoodhungama.com reported that the lifetime collections of the Ajay Devgn-starrer were Rs 100.33 crore, Boxofficeindia.com reported that it had earned Rs 84,83,50,000 (Total Nett).
India makes the maximum number of films in a year, more than any film industry in the world. Isn’t it time the film industry gets together and comes out with authentic figures for the sake of its audience who they are answerable to?
He is very likeable with out sounding too brash or pompous. Also he comes across very genuine in his interviews & media interactions which aids to his charm. Industry needs Akshay as his model is very crucial for industry to survive in such difficult times where only 10 to 12 films becoming clean hits with more than 200 releases in a year & out of these 10, Akshay has 3 this year!! He is mixing it up very well by not sticking to one specific genre as he used to do earlier by doing just comdies.
BMCM was second highest grosser of 1998 and we know this all through years … and even BOI had same on their site … only till last year when they slide it down to 4th place … This is ridiculous …. First of all getting data of movies before 2000 in accuracy level of few lakhs is just impossible … but there was always a ranking based on gross and trade guide and film information had put BMCM on second spot at gross level (though verdict was lower due to less profit shares) ..
@pktalli and @raj,finally an update on
dangal UK bo -2.55mÂŁ till 5.2.17.
NA is 12.37m$,Gulf-8.77m$
If one believes this no.it is currently at no.4 in UK,top 3 are just very close to each other as per BOI(.com) nos though below update is of BOI.co.in.
#Dangal Territory till 5th Feb :- #USA : $12.37M, #UAE : 8.77M, #UK : ÂŁ2.55M, Aust : Au $2.62M, NZ : Nz $0.644m, Malaysia : MYR 0.604m #BOI
It is pretty obvious now that BOI has the most authentic numbers in the business. There numbers for Dangal match the producers numbers (and no one doubts it). There numbers for Raees and Kaabil are below and way below (in that order) the producers numbers and no one (outside of Red Chillies and Filmkraft) believes that the producers numbers are accurate. They do write some inane articles from time to time but I don’t see how someone can doubt there numbers for movies released within the past 8 or 9 years. Now the reports are coming that the film industry follows them as well. I would love to know who runs this website but its probably a good thing that they should remain anonymous.
Doesn’t seem to be you’ve read all the numbers and commentary from sites like Bollywood arena, addatoday, Indicine. I’m not an advocate of their numbers or comments, but they all have displayed estimated figures. All their ballpark figures for Raees are close to BOI. BUT for Kaabil they are pretty much average of BOI and producers.
Don’t be surprised when they continue to provide estimated figures that they will not track correctly for Hrithik, Akshay, Ajay or Amitabh films. That’s my gut feeling.
Even Wikipedia quotes BOI. I doubt Wikipedia does any due diligence, they just go with status quo. Anyway you and few others deserve some commission for promoting BOI numbers, it seems without reading what these other sites are saying.
Just read and put their Kaabil numbers here and put BOI next to it. I’m not defending FKF. Just calling a spade a spade.
PK and Dangal, along with other big films used Rentrak I believe…I won’t endorse that as I know very little about it. Maybe that system of tracking is good.
And I have a USB stick fully loaded of all centre figures from 06-09 that can derive estimated figures and I am sure they undercut Krrish.
I know the fans of BOI here, but read the articles on Kaabil.
Knowing the owners – it could be anyone! It could be me! Or Satyam or You or Krish. Heck knows.
Just remember anyone can be fooled. The UK voted out of Europe, America voted for Trump. Perfectly smart people can misread or be misconstrued. I’m actually surprised at a few here.
You have 3 sources claiming Kaabil to be close to a midpoint between BOI and producers, yet all of the pro- BOI flag bearers turn a blind eye to it, their sources as they claim are not too dissimilar to BOI.
I’m open minded, even BOI can convince me one day.
Working in financial services, it’s very easy to
A) start with a story or goal
B) use numbers and backward induct assumptions to arrive at that figure
C) hide those assumptions and build a story you want to satisfy what you want people to hear.
Heck anyone close enough to banking will know most recessional activity is through such misleading of numbers and fooling the naive.
Right now at face value if I take every data point for Kaabil, RR calculator and BOI calculator are outliers and Bollywood arena, addatoday and Indicine provide an average.
And BOI is open to more scrutiny then ever now as Indicine want to re-evaluate all their figures. You’ll get a long line of discrepancies with BOI. I’m sure the queue to work for BOI is still ripe but equally the opposite may happen.
It is better to just use everything available (if it matters to you) and make your own judgement.
One can sense a good film and good collections without reading too much. Akshay Kumar films have done well recently. BB is far superior to Sultan. Dangal’s murdered Sultan despite all things AGAINST.
Rajen wrote it first that BOI is dodgy on Kaabil and he’s bang on! He likes Hrithik, I don’t. Yes Rajen is a friend. But I don’t think it matters. Clearly doesn’t matter to those that know commentary at BOI is shite but have such belief on their numbers.
I have checked bollyarena and other websites and not really sure what the follow. They could be following BOI one day and producers the other day. I have never seen BOI follow the producers numbers (even in Dangal’s case where the numbers are pretty close). Also, all these new websites have popped up in the last year or so and BOI has been around for a little while. This should count for something. I wouldn’t compare BOI and indian box office to Brexit or Trump because those are world defining events and no matter how much I trust BOI, its still just a box office site. I have seen your model on NG and even here and see no issue there but you still got your territory numbers from Taran. I am not doubting your method…just that I can’t trust Taran with numbers.
I wouldn’t put much into Wikipedia following BOI as BOI is the most popular site for indian box office. Just like Wikipedia would follow boxofficemojo for US box office.
Also, why is everyone surprised that BOI’s numbers for Kaabil are off by so much? Same thing happened with Krrish and Papa Roshan was ridiculed everywhere for it. I don’t buy this argument for one minute that BOI is under reporting their number. For what? to show that Raees is winning? It’s not like their Raees numbers (or even commentary for that matter) will make SRK or RCE very happy. So much for their pro SRK bias.
Lastly, I wish I can get some commission from BOI or Aamir. These are the only two things I talk about on this forum.
You can always match it with Komal Nahta Film Information. Taran stopped posting numbers because he saw people like Jay can do better number crunching than trade analyst.
In fact at one time BOI was so insecure they started posting raw numbers.
There is no thing like Truth in Indian box office. If someone thinks BOI number is accurate then they are delusional. I do agree they have some consistency. But you have to take their numbers with pinch of salt on most accasions and sometimes with bucket of salt (OSO first week, HNY first day or the changing footfalls).
I am not saying you were doing something advance but people who don’t know mathematics will have tough time understanding extrapolation,correlation and matching movie model (CDI or TZP release is different than say OSO release).
FYI every Taran center number matched BOI, a large %. And I actually used BOI as my baseline. Anyone following my numbers with any ounce of smartness knew all I was doing was taking tarans bat and BOI’S ball and playing cricket in BOI’s stadium and smacking 6’s. Sometimes I got a golden duck.
Sometimes you sleep with or befriend the enemy to uncover the deceit. People who knew this knew the game.
Just for a quick comment, I know Indicine even before I started commenting on NG (and SS), they don’t have sources enough to estimate all India figure. In fact, that was just a random blog few years back. they have definitely matured and may have links with few distributors, but, no way they can estimate on all India basis. Same holds true for other sites.
They most probably took BOI number and twist it here and there a bit.
V difficult in current scenario to get authenticate nos. Its very people and links (pehchaan) dependent so pretty easy to tweak nos. any which way. Only industry and producers can come together and form a uniform system that needs to be followed by all. But not everyone would be willing. So have to live with it until Modi does something :P…lol
Not sure abt authenticity of Indicine as i am unaware of their history. But i followed bollyarena during dangal and was pretty impressed the way they came up with early estimates each day before any other source like boi or producer total. And they were always on the mark.
I doubt if that is possible without proper contacts and access to enough sample raw data.
I think people unpredict what is possible. Now their predictions do go wrong, but there is more green than red in general. To be able to predict one must have some basis. I DO NOT ENDORSE INDICINE BTW. I’m just countering what you’re saying. All their predictions are before BOI has even posted a figure.
Many things are possible;
BOI is most authentic
Producer is most authentic
These satellite sites have access to film information or trade guide (? If they still exist) and can become authentic
There is no such thing as authentic
Authentic is deciphering through all the sources and getting an overall picture of the story
To blankly say one is more than other without knowing their mechanism is very black and white view. None of the people saying this would put serious money on it! Let alone their lives!!!
Because how can you prove it?
Even when I wrote columns I tracked BOI. It’s basic rules of business, you follow any source and distinguish outliers and use judgement to benchmark against a good average.
As munna pointed out I used what I would call basic extrapolation techniques, but for some that would be WOW, others it could understandable, others could easily conjure up better things and add conjectures or huge disclaimer to my methods.
Heck even I could. Correlation, modelling, forecasting, sum of squares, linear regression (zzzzzz as I write this), statistical tools, means, standard deviation, variance, confidence intervals, normal distribution curves, hypothesis testing, spearman’s rank etc etc are all things I studied and could use to get or refine more precision. It’s not how a Saturday morning should start!
Bollywood arena admittedly said they track BOI. This to me means something different then to you. To you and others it means they authenticate BOI and plus or minus 0.5 CR here or there to perpetuate themselves as distinguishable and another authentic source. But I interpret tracking as 1) I have a mechanical way to predict 2) I am uncertain and lack confidence in that method 3) I’ll compare it to something else off the shelf and if I’m in range I’m happy 4) By continually doing this overtime I learn, refine and become more accurate.
Btw as Marcus points out a lot of these sites predict daily collections and they are not widely off until FKP OR RCE arrive. They must have sources and no one can tell me for sure who has the best, cleanest and most sound method of box office numbers… Whoever is frankly don’t know what they are talking about or what propaganda they are endorsing.
To be blunt anyone authenticating BOI, IBOS, Jayshah, Indicine, Addatoday, Bollywood arena, producers really are just adding a huge disclaimer to their own judgement. I absolved myself from this list as I had no disclaimer, I was transparent. You took it or you left it.
But realistically the only authentic number is when the expected outcome = actual outcome. The latter is never disclosed by private companies, public ones I presume have an obligation to give some details. The tax man is another source, but even here big companies like Starbucks can be clever in disguising their tax obligations.
It’s a murky world. If one used prescriptive nice language like BOI is directionally correct than fine as that’s expected outcome language. But when one says it is the most accurate or ‘spot on’ one is entering actual outcome territory.
BOI isn’t even Hawkeye or ball tracking, it’s more like the umpire raising it’s finger. Even the line judges in tennis are more precise consistently. BOI is like a football referee (read soccer you yanks), making dubious decisions every week! And don’t get me started or verdict changes! LOL! How is it possible to make one verdict many years ago and have a new verdict now? And people believe this bubblegum website!
Very aptly put Jay! No point in saying one is better than another. Its best to look at all the sources and get a rough idea abt whats really going on. One can then arrive at a range in which the actual collections may be in. Indian BO will remain a mess until everything is computerised, which is far far away. Without infrastructure even agencies like rentrak cant help the situation here.
Your first line is assumption. Even Bollyarena and addatoday daily estimates before the official release were near the Dangal numbers. That doesn’t mean they are right.
Why the numbers are so well rounded? 15 (or 15.5) crore. not 14.98 or 15.02 crore. I know they are estimates but where is the precision (if they are doing mathematics by any mean).
I think where BOI does manipulation or adjusting is daily numbers. They may have say .25-0.50 crore less or more, so next day they may add/subtract it. In end it will be near producers numbers. But if you don’t do that your error will keep adding and you will be far from producer’s number. It is where they have choice to do or not.
The reason numbers are not THAT accurate is because BOI is not rentrak. I don’t know if there will EVER be a time when indian box office numbers will be as accurate as the one in US. The way things work in india with single screens, tax issues, actors being friendly with distributors…not sure we will ever have a system that everyone can trust.
I find it amusing BOI’s numbers are the LOWEST out there for Kaabil and those are the likeliest to be most precise! If they were in the average zone I could understand. Raees upto Sunday on BOI is fine, probably fine all way through as the average amongst those estimating (excluding producers) is in range.
Anyway no more blabbering from me, both have underperformed but are setting Dangal standards combined according to producers!
I think this whole debate around authenticity of the Boxoffice Figures can be easily overcome by doing 2 things;
1. Some Agency needs to connect with the Central Excise and State Level Tax Departments to verify per film earnings from the Taxation of the movies. These are publicly available figures but not sure without RTI can be released or not. When we will know how much Tax a particular movie collected in its run, that should give us a clear picture.
2. How can producers say they earned 100 crores and not be scrutinized by Tax Agency for the ET ? Unless to boost their ego they are also paying Taxation to back these excessive numbers.
I saw that everyone talking about Rentrak which is now part of ComScore, its centralized and integrated. Its easier for them to integrate PVR, INOX , Satyam etc the chains which have Printed Ticketing and Computerized collections. For Single Screen who still sell cheap quality hand written tickets, there’s lot of room to fudge numbers.
TOI report on actual n inflated numbers and also about not a singke authenthic board to count real collections..
Box-Office Collection: Who can you trust? http://toi.in/IQCQmb/a19li
This is a reasonable article and i tend to agree with their estimates on the controversial films. BOI numbers are fishy for some films. Its really good to now have the likes of bollyarena and indicine to give their own estimates.
” Box Office India (the collections from which Bolly Arena follows as well) ”
I don’t think indicine, bollyarena or addatoday have much tracking or links with distributors. May be couple of distributors and using bookmyshow they simply throw numbers. They change their numbers too often throughout the day to be taken seriously. And finally all their numbers are closer to BOI
Don’t know why RGV delaying Sarkar 3 promotions …. if idea is to release on 17th March then promotion should start right now … Minimum 1.5 month of publicity is must ..
Sarkar 3 is a non starter. Don’t know why BigB is doing it at this stage. Sarkar was the only one worth seeing. Rest one can see ON TVs when it comes. BigB films any way is the most repeatedly run after Akshay Kumar’s movie on satellite.
Ramu is businessman – Production budget of Sarkar 3 must be 10 cr – out of give 5 cr to Big B – shot in local locations and in 30 days flat (that is how the entire South industry works – very disciplined) – publicity etc go for hell – he can easily sell this product on Big B’s name to distributors in a moderate 30-35 cr – add this some rights like TV etc – another 20-30 cr – so pocket a cool profit of 20-30 cr and move on đ do u think Ramu cares for making a good cinema anymore?????
If this is true than Amitabh is a damn fool for taking just 5 CR. If his name is the ONLY thing selling the movie than he should be demanding 50% profit.
Pls do not forget, BigB has already entered the Fixed Investment and Steady Return Club. He tried Growth strategies in the 90s, it bankrupted him.
So, at the age of 70+, a tangible fee of 5cr is much better than 50% share of 0.00 cr!
Amitabh is one of the topmost earners in India. I doubt that 5 CR makes that much difference to him. The reason I brought up profit is that it makes no sense for him to just charge 5 CR for a movie when it’s being sold at a really high price just based on his name. Maybe profit is the wrong word. Whatever RGV is getting for this movie (theatre, sattelite etc…), Bachchan should demand 50%.
A Division Bench of Justice S.S. Shinde and Justice K.K. Sonawane also ordered the Central Board of Film Certification to certify the film afresh after implementing the cuts in the Akshay Kumar starrer.
The order follows a report by a court-appointed three-member committee of experts, comprising Senior Advocates R.N. Dhorde and V.J. Dixit and medico Dr Prakash Kanade, petitioner-lawyer Ajaykumar Waghmare said from Nanded.
The committee viewed the film last Friday in Aurangabad and submitted its two-page report stating that a particular scene is âdefamatory to the lawyersâ profession and would be contempt of courtâ.
Bombay HC orders four cuts, fresh certification for ‘Jolly LLB 2’
Bombay HC orders four cuts, fresh certification for âJolly LLB 2â
They added that the visual or words also involved âdefamation of the body of lawyers and undermines the dignity of lawyers and courtsâ.
After taking the report on record, the judges ordered that the scenes objected to by the committee should be deleted and that the CBFC should re-certify the film, Waghmare said.
âThis is a historic and significant order concerning any film in the country. It is also a lesson to the CBFC which certified the film during the pendency of the PIL, indicating some malpractices,â Waghmare told IANS.
The scenes ordered to be deleted include the ones in which a judge is shown crouching behind the dias, hurling of a shoe at a judge and an objectionable dialogue.
The lawyers representing the filmmakers agreed to the necessary cuts/modifications.
The filmâs producers, Fox Star Studios, had challenged before the Supreme Court the January 27 ruling of the Bombay High Court to appoint the three-member.
The Supreme Court on Friday refused to put on hold the screening of âJolly LLB 2â before the three-member panel and allowed the committee to preview the film and ascertain whether the said scenes denigrated the judiciary in any manner.
Slated for release on February 10, âJolly LLB 2â is a courtroom drama starring Akshay Kumar, Huma Qureshi, Annu Kapoor and Saurabh Shukla, and is written and directed by Subhash Kapoor.
The Bombay High Court’s stance is a far cry from its ruling of June last year when it overturned 12 cuts that the CBFC had made to “Udta Punjab”, a film depicting drug addiction. It told the film board not to be “over-sensitive”.
The case is an unusual twist on censorship in the country, where courts have instructed India’s censorship board to reinstate scenes that it has deleted — not the other way round.
“We had no objection with the film and gave it a certificate. It’s a movie for entertainment and is fiction,” Censor Board chairman Pahlaj Nihalani said.
Raees Second Monday Business
Tuesday 07 February 2017 11.30 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
Raees grossed 1.50 crore nett on its second Monday to take its total to 13 crore nett in four days of the second week and 123 crore nett all together. The film will cross the business of last years Republic Day week release Airlift today and despite an under performance that will make it the highest grossing film released in the month of January. It has a lot to with the fact that big films don’t really release in January or even in the first half of the year.
The film caught up with Kaabil again on Monday as Raees has more single screens and they tend to collect better on Monday and the shortfall it has in multiplexes gets covered by the single screens. The business of Raees till date is as follows.
First Week – 1,10,05,00,000 (nine days)
Friday – 2,75,00,000
Saturday – 4,00,00,000
Sunday – 4,75,00,000
Monday – 1,50,00,000
Second Weekend – 13,00,00,000 apprx
TOTAL – 1,23,05,00,000 apprx
The second week of the film looks to be heading towards 17 crore nett which will take the film to around 127 crore nett and a final total in the vicinity of 130 crore nett. Dilwale release last Christmas grossed 140 crore nett over that holiday period with a clash. .
Except Aamir and Salman, all other stars are struggling to go past 150. SRK has done only once with Chennai Express and it might remain his highest gross ever.
HNY was also there. And with solo release I think his movies like Dilwale, Raees etc can still easily gross around 160-180crrs. But Salman and Aamir are in altogether different league now and I don’t see anyone reaching that level in next few years at least. Among newcomers Ranbir is struggling to give 100crrs and Ranveer’s movies only work with Slb+Deepika combo.
Akshay Kumar has always sported different looks for his films. He has even cut his hair as required by the characters. Now for Reema Kagtiâs biopic Gold where he reprises the role of Indiaâs legendary hockey striker, captain and coach of yesteryear, Balbir Singh Sr, the actor will wear a dhoti-kurta in the entire film. The period drama is about India winning the first Olympic medal as an independent country in 1948, at the 14th Olympiad in London. Akshay has worn a dhoti-kurta in his earlier films, but this is the first time he will be wearing the outfit throughout a film. Shooting for the film starts mid this year.
Judwaa 2 first look: Varun Dhawanâs stepping into Salmanâs shoes, can he deliver?
BOLLYWOOD Updated: Feb 07, 2017 10:55 IST
HT Correspondent
HT Correspondent
Hindustan Times
Judwaa 2 first look
Varun Dhawan steps into the shoes of Salman Khan with Judwaa 2, sequel to the 1997 hit film.
Varun Dhawan shared the first look of his much-awaited David Dhawan film, Judwaa 2 Tuesday morning.
He tweeted the first look of the film, revealing heâs playing Raja and Prem, the double role Salman Khan made famous in the original film in 1997. The sequel too will have Varun playing two diametrically opposite characters: Prem, a suit clad, bespectacled well-mannered NRI, and Raja, a long-haired Mumbai âtaporiâ.
Directed by David Dhawan and produced by Sajid Nadiadwala, the shooting for Judwaa 2 began this weekend. The film also has Jacqueline Fernandez and Taapsee Pannu play the roles made famous by Karisma Kapoor and Rambha in the original. Reports suggest that Salman may make a guest appearance in Judwaa 2.
Varun Dhawan to start shooting Judwaa 2 on 20th anniversary of Judwaa
The sequel has retained two of Anu Malikâs hit songs from the original film: Chalti Hai Kya Nau Se Barah and Oonchi Hai Building.
Man….im getting old. All I remember about Judwaa is that Sallu needed this hit after being in a slump for a couple years. He went onto having a huge two years before entering another slump.
Kaabil Second Monday Business
Tuesday 07 February 2017 13.00 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
Kaabil (Hindi) grossed 1.50 crore nett on its second Monday to takes it to total to 79 crore nett. Its not a bad drop considering that it grossed 4 crore nett last Monday which is a 62.50% drop. Although the drop is not bad the collections definitely are and the film is going nowhere. The only achievement it will have if it can be called that is that it will beat the collections of Raees in week two but it will only be around 50 lakhs nett plus.
The second week for Kaabil is heading for around 17.50 crore nett which will take its two week total to 83.25 crore and from there it may add another 3-4 crore nett for a 86-87 crore nett finish. The business of Kaabil till date is as follows.
First Week – 65,74,00,000 (nine days)
Friday – 2,50,00,000
Saturday – 4,00,00,000
Sunday – 5,25,00,000
Monday – 1,50,00,000
Second Weekend – 13,25,00,000 apprx
TOTAL – 78,99,00,000 apprx
Kaabil was also released in Tamil and Telugu and will finish its run with around 3 crore nett which is a similar ratio to Dangal as per its Hindi business at around 3.5%. Both films have grossed around 3.5% of its Hindi version in Tamil and Telugu but obviously Kaabil at much lower levels.
Jackie Chan, Disha Patani Starrer Kung Fu Yoga Tops Chinese Box Office
By Koimoi.com Team -February 7, 2017
Hong Kong action star Jackie Chan and Bollywood actor Sonu Sood-starrer âKung Fu Yoga,â part of a three-film pact signed between India and China, is ruling the Chinese box office.
According to China Film News, the movie topped the Chinese box office in the week ending on February 5, earning 963 million yuan ($ 140 million), reports Xinhua news agency.
Domestic fantasy movie âJourney to the West: The Demons Strike Backâ landed in the second place for the week, taking 822 million yuan. It has grossed 1.4 billion yuan since its release on January 28.
âDuckweed,â a domestic adventure film directed by writer Han Han, was placed third in the week with sales revenue of 503 million yuan.
Actually many of these movies made money in interiors .. between 1995-2000 .. Mithun model was to make movie in budget of 30-35 Lakhs and target was to earn from ‘C’ and ‘D’ grade centers … no trade analyst can get numbers from those small talkies , BOI ke to bilkul aukaat ke bahar ki baat hai …. If you notice most of movies are from common team , no one is mad to produce 50 disasters in row … these movies made money, it is just that profits were small and from theaters who never reveal collections.
All said and done, Raees will end at 130-135 cr range and Kaabil will make 95-100 cr by the end of its run. BOI will be 10 cr or so less in case of Kaabil (under-reporting).
Both are under-performers. Even with the clash they should have comfortably crossed 150 cr and 100 cr respectively. 2017 has started with first 2 big films turning out to be disappointments.
Johar’s year as a producer has not started very well. Ok Jaanu flopped and now all eyes on Badrinath, which to me looks like a rehash of some of Yash Raj’s own films like Shuddh Desi Romance and Band Baaja Baarat.
yeah but it will sail through smoothly. OK Jaanu had casting problems – they should have retained the very beautiful and talented Nithya Menon – what is that lady doing in South? She needs a proper bollywood launch – none of the present bollywood heroines is a patch on her kind of talent……
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@kamaalrkhan this is was my response when KRK saw trailer of Sarkar 3, liked it and predicted it to be a HIT !! lets hope so !!??
Amitabh Bachchan’s last release Pink became a surpise hit and he moved on to his next – Ram Gopal Varma’s Sarkaar. Most of the principal shooting for the film is complete and the team has cut out a trailer as well.
While it’s not known when the theatrical promo will be launched, someone has already watched the trailer.And you won’t believe who is one of the first people to see it! KRK!
Yes, Big B and Kamaal Rashid Khan’s Twitter exchange proves that KRK was one of the first few to watch the trailer and not just that, he even predicted that the film will be a huge HIT.
KRK put out a screenshot of the text message Big B sent to him, thanking him for his kind prediction and soon enough, Amit ji tweeted explaining the context of the text. Read all of it here:
Sarkar 3 predicted super-hit KRK..we saw Raees trailer and broke all youtube record then when the film released it just went flat like a coca cola bottle lid half-open..we shall see if the lid stays sealed even after the release…looking forward for this sequel ..only disadvantage is RGV himself,such a big let down…
Raees is at 2.8m$ in NA,5.3m$ in Gulf,wld hardly do 4m$ in NA,while gulf is very good,shld do 7-7.5m$ there.Inspite of it’s better Performance,it wld fall way short even in gulf as dangal’s last update was 8.77m$ in gulf.UK is shockingly low at 1.2mpound as i believe this is probably the only circuit where SRK still rules.
Dangal has crossed 3MA$ in Aus,has beaten PK by leaps and bounds with 45%.Raees is at 1.1MA$ at the moment.
If u can analyse the analogy of overseas circuits with domestic circuit,then u can infer the following.
1.NA behaves more or less like Mumbai.both r not only the biggest circuits,Aamir is clear no.1 in both.Both circuits decide the overall fate in domestic/overseas.
2.Gulf behaves like bihar.Massy films do well there and sallu rules in both though Gulf is comparatively a bigger circuit and sallu’s dominance is lesser in gulf.
3.Aus behaves like Mysore.Both r classiest circuits and Aamir is like 1-5 in both,his movies tend to outperform in both circuits.
4.UK behaves like Delhi/UP.Star power works in both and SRK rules in UK,though same can’t be said abt Delhi/UP at the moment.
I am kindly requesting that this constant comparison between Raees and Dangal be stopped! The point can be made in one comment…hell the point has been made last week. Its too much now. I realize it is a box office thread but no need to drag Dangal into every Raees convo.
Why is BOI not giving an update on dangal in overseas,WW,Footfalls.it seems dangal is going to get a wide release in china,talks are on.let’s hope for the best.
pk did 17m$ in china,not sure if dangal can do that much as dangal is very indian,though cld do 7-8m$ atleast.Let’s see but release is gonna happen for sure.
This is blasphemy by reducing his billions of followers to just millions !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Be ready to face the dire consequences in the form of “BABA’S” next titled “Mera Badla Arabon lenge” (Billions will take my revenge : Eng. Title) as it would be the biggest worldwise release ever by releasing in every country as all of them inhabit “Insaans”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Shah Rukh Khanâs next film to be titled âRehnumaâ
Tuesday 7 February 2017 | 5:09 AM | By Swati
Superstar Shah Rukh Khan who is basking in the glory of his latest success âRaaesâ is also excited about his upcoming film opposite Anushka Sharma. Directed by Imtiaz Ali, the film is lined up for release this year.
Earlier, Salman had already announced the release date of the film, ie. 11th August, but now the official name of the film has been declared. The film which was tentatively titled âThe Ringâ has been now renamed to âRehnumaâ.
The word, âRehnumaâ means guide or leader in Urdu, and will have SRK essaying the role of one as well. The film has been shot in Prague and deals with Anushkaâs character who is on a mission to unearth a lost engagement ring. Though we all know Imitiazâs fascination for English words in his filmâs name, but this SRK movie will be called âRehnumaâ and not âRingâ.
I have zero interest in 3I sequel. Aamir is the only star right now who has not done a sequel to his own movie and I want him to keep it this way. No SQLs.
BOI is calling Talaash a Semi Hit and Dhobhi Ghat Below Average. However they are calling MP a Flop now. They had it as Average/Below Average earlier not so long ago I remember. Did we go back in 2005 and something got changed??? They keep changing history if and when they feel like. If they don’t know then they shouldn’t post it. It’s sad state of affairs that BOI is the most trusted site for bollywood BO.
BOI changes their verdicts regularly, but Mangal Pandey was no way a flop. It did not lose money for anyone involved. Even Aamir in one of his interviews emphasized that there was no financial losses involved with MP. Of course that does not make it a success, but calling it a flop is going too far.
From Lagaan till Dangal, Aamir has not delivered any flops.
MP and Talaash were underperformers. And DCH was a metro-hit only. Apart from that everything was clean hits that went out of the park – Lagaan (Hit), RDB (Superhit), Fanaa (Superhit), TZP (Superhit), Ghajini (ATBB), 3 Idiots (ATBB), Dhoom 3 (ATBB), PK (ATBB) & Dangal (ATBB).
Its a stellar arc and can beat any arc of any superstar for any duration if one considers both the quality content and BO results of most of these films.
Intolerance is growing in the country and a âselect fewâ assume that they represent the masses, the Samajwadi Party MP says.
The alleged assault on Director Sanjay Leela Bhansali and his crew on the sets of âPadmavatiâ figured in Rajya Sabha on Tuesday with actress-turned-politician Jaya Bachchan saying the incident has threatened creativity.
Raising the issue in the House during the Zero Hour, she said intolerance is growing in the country and a âselect fewâ assume that they represent the masses, âunder certain political patronage,â and take law and order in their hands.
They have no respect for constitutional values or the law of the land.
Ms. Bachchan (SP) said the film fraternity, which strives to bring fictional stories to people through creativity for the sole purpose of entertainment with some moral and social message, has been the âsoft target for these anti-social elements.â
âSometime they are threatened, sometime films are not allowed be screened, sets are vandalised and sometimes it takes a violent turn as it happened in Jaipur recently,â she noted.
â…Sets of Padmavati, where Rajput Karni Sena not only physically assaulted the Director Sanjay Leela Bhansali, but also damaged the expensive film equipments,â she said.
Mr. Bhansali, she said, is a renowned director who had made great films and added that he had also staged the âsame subject of Padmavatiâ as an opera in a Paris theatre in 2008.
Ms. Bachchan further said, neither the State government, nor the Centre has condemned the incident or taken action against the culprits.
âWhat message are we sending to the film fraternity which is one of the most important and vibrant ambassador of the country. Creativity should not be subjected to such treatment,â she said and demanded strong action against those involved in the incident.
Ms. Bachchan said the film fraternity has long been fighting the menace with little or no support from the government.
The film industry creates large number of employment opportunities and such disruptions, she said, affects the earnings of the sector.
Last month, Mr. Bhansali was allegedly roughed up by members of a Rajput community group, who also stopped the shooting of the film by damaging the set at Jaigarh Fort, alleging that the director was âdistorting factsâ in the movie which is about Alauddin Khiljiâs obsession with Rani Padmavati.
After the complexities of keeping up with comments of Myselfaamir, Aamirfan, Aamirsaurabh and between a Raj5 & RajRoshan, we now have a Cooldude & Coolguy. If that were not enough there are also Vijay and Vijjie tooâŚâŚâŚI mean câmon!
Ranveer and Alia pair up for Farhan Akhtar-Ritesh Sidhwaniâs ‘Gully Boy’
Director Zoya Akhtar will also co-produce it under her banner
Zoya Akhtar’s next directorial venture, Gully Boy, will mark the outing of a new on-screen jodi. Ranveer Singh and Alia Bhatt have been finalised to play the leads in the film, which is being co-produced by Zoya’s recently-launched banner Tiger Baby and Ritesh Sidhwani and Farhan Akhtar’s Excel Entertainment. The shoot of the movie, we hear, will commence this November. With it being Ranveer-Alia’s first big-screen outing together, the project has already started generating buzz. The title further piques our interest. For more on the project, keep watching this space.
No one in the history of Bwood could come up with such rib tickling stuff. Simple reason being, one had to be extremely proficient in the English Language to actually do that piece of comedy. Not sure any of our past or present heroes can match BigB at his command of the Queens language.
The exact opposite of this piece was this bit in Khudaar where he does not know English:
And I dont think any Khan, Kumar, Siddiqui, Kher, Shah et al can match this comic ingenuity of Amitabh. All the kids and teenies on this site should issue a rebuttal if they can.
Arshad Warsi, who will reprise the much-loved character of Circuit in the third film in the Munnabhai franchise, said the script for the third installment is ready.
âRajkumar Hirani spoke to me. He gave an idea about the story and it is just superb. The story is very much relevant in todayâs time. The script is ready,â he said during a press conference for his upcoming film Irada on Tuesday.
Asked about the shooting schedule of the film, he said: âAs soon as the biopic (Sanjay Duttâs) is done, we will start shooting it in 2018.â
‘Munnabhai 3’ script ready, superb story: Arshad Warsi
âMunnabhai 3â script ready, superb story: Arshad Warsi
Talking about the film, the 48-year-old actor said, âYou will soon see the same innocent idiots coming up with a social issue once again. They will make you see the world we want to see. The film will be very sweet and lovely.â
The actor who is known for his cheerful appearance expressed, âSense of humour is the best thing in the world. Weâve a lot of issues in life so I feel we should smile more often.â
Arshad is currently awaiting the release of âIradaâ. Directed by Aparnaa Singh and featuring Naseeruddin Shah and Divya Dutta, the film will hit the screens on February 17.
Kaabil And Raees Second Tuesday Business
Wednesday 08 February 2017 13.00 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
Raees became the highest January grosser ever after fourteen days of its run as it beat last years Airlift. Its not enough to make the film hit but it is a success. The total will cross 125 crore nett today. The business of Raees till date is as follows.
First Week – 1,10,05,00,000 (nine days)
Friday – 2,75,00,000
Saturday – 4,00,00,000
Sunday – 4,75,00,000
Monday – 1,50,00,000
Tuesday – 1,25,00,000
Second Weekend – 14,25,00,000 apprx
TOTAL – 1,24,30,00,000 apprx
Kaabil (Hindi) has taken its fourteen day total to a little over 80 crore nett. It will edge out Raees in the second week but it hardly makes a difference as the shortfall was nearly 45 crore nett in week one. The business of Kaabil till date is as follows.
Doesn’t the differences in numbers among the sources usually happen for movies which are not rejected but do not start with a hit business.
For all other movies – rejected or Hit and above, such controversies rarely breaks.
Raees is atleast a success now in all sources.
Kaabil is atleast a success now in all sources minus 1. (BOI)
Wow moment for me. Naveen, great observation. Took 10 years to agree with you but better late than never. Obviously this below average/average/overflow/semihit categorisation is very unnecessary and confusing. The average guy on the street doesn’t talk in this robotic trade talk language. They probably say flop hai (flop), theek hai (average/ timepass), hit hai or chalenge (hit, long run), blockbuster hai (blockbuster film). The last time I heard overflow was for a toilet!
Haha
Not losing money can be termed as a success i guess. Both are average grossers with great display of BO reporting from the producers. Lets leave it at that and move on.
Manisha Koirala to play Nargis Dutt in Sanjay Dutt biopic
Filmmaker Rajkumar Hirani has begun work on his next venture â Sanjay Duttâs biopic. The film that will see Ranbir Kapoor essaying the role of Bollywoodâs bad boy, will have a number of famous faces as part of the project. The latest addition to the star cast happens to be one of Sanjayâs earlier co-stars, Manisha Koirala. The actress has been roped in to play Duttâs mother Nargis.
In a recent interview, the director revealed the primary reason for getting her on board. Hirani said that since Manisha is a cancer survivor and had lived through the trying times, she would be able to âidentify with Nargisâ fightâ. The actress also happens to have been treated at the same cancer facility in New York where Nargis was treated. The biopic is expected to release in December 2017.
It seems,BOI is now updating dangal overseas gross.they have updated it for Gulf and aus. the fig. they have quoted for gulf is same as is being circulated ie 8.8m$.so,i just hope they give it overall 30m$+fig.in this,way 700cr fig WW shld be done as per BOI.tremendous trending was done in gulf as opening was not very great and it’s a sort of massy circuit.
it seems for NA fig.BOI refers Boxofficemojo.u can see weekend fig. of 3248481$ for dangal at BOI.Number is exactly in sync with boxofficemojo nos from fri to sun.(888657+1013550+1346274)=3248481$.so,it means BOI wld also give NA no. same as circulated one.current no. is 12.382m$ for dangal in NA. http://www.boxofficeindia.com/movie.php?movieid=3443
the fate of the film is clear to all, in India and elsewhere. These 10th week (or whatever!) Australian numbers or any other numbers don’t change anything whatever any site does or does not report. I know you’re a big Aamir fan (to put it mildly) but hey you can relax! With such a massive total, with all these records that have been broken nothing has to be proven to anyone!
OK Satyam,i knew you were coming.i think Yakuza has sent you an old 1985 article stating 9 out of 13 all time grossers belong to AB through mail.it wld be great if u can share this at SS.
Yakuza,thanks my god i was very active then.u can see me all over in this article of ur blog.saurabh is not anyone else but me.though i was wrong abt sallu,thought he was finished ,that was just before dabang.but still a mystery how he got multiplex audience considering the kind of movies he did after dabang.
Sanjay Dutt who was very close to his dad wanted to play the most iconic character of the film.
Sanjay who gave 200 hours of recording as a basic matter for the biopic, didn’t want the attention to be divided between the real and the reel Dutt.
The film also features Sonam Kapoor as Sanjay’s earlier love interest, Vicky Kaushal as his friend from the US, Anushka Sharma as a journalist and Paresh Rawal as Sunil Dutt. Manisha joins the cast as Nargis, Sanjay’s mother, whose death in 1981 from pancreatic cancer, affected him deeply.
This seems a good piece and Dangal in some ways has given an opportunity to big stars ( who are aiming only for big number ) to change course and not worry about the “add-on” of commercial cinema. Infact with Raees it’s also clear any dilutions may now have adverse effect and the minor gains from opening with ‘ flavor enhancers ‘ will be momentary and eventually dwindle if wom gets poor due to such concoction.
The dry track of Bajrangi Bhaijaan was also one such confidence building moment but more so for Salman since until then he was associated with his signature supplements. In this respect ‘Tubelight’ will reveal a bit more and it seems Kabir may have pushed the envelope a tad more.
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Aamir Has Given New Aspect to Mainstream Cinema: Karan Johar
“….The honcho of Dharma Production said the 51-year-old actor is the most intelligent artist of India.
“I don’t give a tag to anyone. The only thing I can say about him that he is the most outstanding producer and actor in the Indian film industry.”
“Dangal is a complete Hindustani film…The way the film has been presented is outstanding and has emotionally touched everyone’s heart. I don’t think there has been a better film in the last decade than Dangal,” said Karan.
Yakuza since you have been waiting for long, there is some bad news for you ! Though it must be added the clash chatter helps small movies these days with some added buzz.
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Yes saw that .. Disappointed by this decision. March was best date .. hardly any notable release. Though even Jagaa Jasoos date is not final yet .. it may slip.
If you look at Rentrak number , looking at precision you can say that they are estimates. When you end up at 45.10 instead of 45.11 or 45.09, it is an estimate.
Also, I just saw Film information raw numbers for Raaes and Kaabil. The ratio was 70% (Kaabil/Raaes). If BOI is saying 110 for Raees then Kaabil should be approx. 78.
Aamir was recently quoted saying, âIâm a huge fan of Rajamouliâs work and if he ever plans to make âMahabharataâ, Iâd love to play Krishna or Karna. I might actually go with Krishnaâ.
Buzz is that the film is expected to hit the theaters in 2018. Considering the major casting coup, one can only imagine the filmâs budget and also what a mark it will leave at the box office, with biggies like Rajini, Aamir and Mohanlal in one film.
The film will be shot in 3 languages, Tamil Telugu and Hindi. Reportedly, the filmâs budget is around 400 crores.
You Asked It – Has Dangal Beaten The Footfalls Of Bajrang
Q. Why are the figures of dubbed versions not included in the collections of the website?
A. These figures you will see in box office note on the page for the film. The figures are tracked for Hindi films and the dubbed versions are not Hindi films, many even have different names. A Hindi film dubbed into Tamil and Telugu will do around 1-5% of its Hindi version depending on the position of the local releases down. It can be done for every film. There are also a lot of comparisons on the site and it does not work if these figures are added as with big film some choose to dub while others do not. Also the most important reason is films have to be kept separate and taking these dubbed mean you have to bring regional films into the equation. When Dangal finishes it run is a week or so then we will do a few charts which will make it clearer.
Q. Has Dangal beaten the footfalls of Bajrangi Bhaijaan and what are they?
A. Yes has edged past and will be published at the end of its run in a few weeks time.
Q. The last week has seen manipulated figures being talked by everybody including main newspapers but a big box office website like yours has not even mentioned it?
A. Its not the first time it has happened and won’t be the last. It happens practically every other week with some film or the other to different levels. There is not much to comment on and our bit can be seen here. When something happens often and then you get up and comment after years the first question by people surfing the site is why now and assume there is something behind it. The main industry people know the correct figures as the industry can’t work with fake figures. Today 70-80% of the collections of a Hindi film are there to see at a theatre level which was not the case ten years back so the public and media can be given any number but the industry will get theatre level collections and know the real number irrespective of any other numbers going around.
Q. Why was the opening of Kaabil was so low. Is it because just of Raees as it it was opening which killed the film
A. Raees was one reason but not the only one. The promos, music and production values had to be much better to stand up in a clash. Even without clash these type of revenge thrillers find it tough going as only Mumbai and a couple of other circuits really works unless the music is huge or it has a superstar at the top of his game who can convert the audience outside Mumbai and others.
After a series of action films and out-and-out comedies, Ajay Devgnâs next will be a contemporary rom-com to be written & produced by Luv Ranjan. A quirky take on urban relationships, the film will have Ajay in an edgy space that resonates with todayâs youth.
The big clash between Kaabil and Raees is another clash where the films have not lived upto expectations with both films under performing. Raees has got away with it due to an excellent start and is a SEMI HIT while Kaabil is a failure and will be BELOW AVERAGE / FLOP depending on final share. Either way it makes little difference as its not a success. Raees also has a huge pot from Overseas to helps its cause and the Overseas share will in the 35-40 crore range. The combined figures will be a little better than the Ae Dil Hai Mushkil v Shivaay clash where the combined total was 190 crore nett and here it will go to 215 crore nett. But that was Ajay Devgn and Ranbir Kapoor and here it is Shahrukh Khan and Hrithik Roshan so a 25 crore nett gap is not much. Even the gap is due to Raees which will have a 25 crore nett higher total than the winner of that clash Ae Dil Hai Mushkil while Kaabil and Shivaay will be in same range.
Raees is another film which has not grossed like a Shahrukh Khan film but it keeps his unbelievable clash record intact. He is the star with probbaly the most clashes but comes out on top every time irrespective of content. There were some defeats in the earlier films but he was not a star then. The only setback came in 2001 when Indian beat Asoka but at that time Sunny Deol in the right film was always going to be tough nut to crack for anyone. The clashes include big victories against rivals Aamir Khan in 1995 (Ram Jaane v Akele Hum Akele Tum) and Salman Khan (Don v Jaan-E-Mann). In 2015 the Dilwale v Bajirao Mastani clash is seen as a defeat but if the wider picture is seen with Worldwide numbers its a comfortable victory for Dilwale and this was only due to the clout of Shahrukh Khan as the film was not liked. Even in India it would have been much closer if the intolerance debate did not happen at time of release which cost the film around 15% business. Shahrukh Khan has probably defeated every other major star out there in a clash.
Kaabil is a another downer for Hrithik Roshan and now the next film is very important as its not around the corner so when it comes it has to be a big one. In 2006 he was about to be undisputed superstar and leave the Khan’s behind after Krrish and Dhoom 2 but doing poor films like Jodhaa Akbar and Zindagi Na Milegi Dobaraa cost him badly as Salman Khan reinvented and made the action space his own and there was no looking back for him.
The difference in stardom is so much that films like Dhoom 2 and Krrish did not open that much lower than Kaabil despite more than 60% less screens and half the ticket rates. Despite this they were just 25% less than Kaabil on the first day.
I had doubts but it is confirmed that some srk and salman PR is sitting there and writing all this nonsense demeaning other stars and elevating SRK and Salman. Calling well appreciated films like JA and ZNMD as poor outings.
âAamir Khan did no promotion for Dangal, still delivered biggest hitâ â Naseeruddin Shah
âThis whole business of promotions is over rated. To my mind it is nonsensical. It is a waste of money,â said Naseeruddin Shah Sahab in a Bollywood Hungama exclusive video interview with Content Head Broadband Faridoon Shahryar. âAamir did no promotion for Dangal. He didnât go anywhere. It is the biggest hit, not only of the year but of history. So what do you gain by drawing thousands of hysterical people to look at you. I think these actors enjoy doing this thatâs why they do it. Blowing up that much money is no big deal for them,â stated Naseer Sahab in his trademark no nonsense style taking a jibe at the trend of too-much-in-the-face-promotions instead of quality promotions.
Naseer Sahab went on to add, âI donât believe promotions can make a film successful. The film is successful on its own merit. Promotions can make it more successful perhaps. But promotions canât convert a bad movie into a good one.â He substantiated his point by adding, âWhen A Wednesday was made there were no promotions done. There was hardly a poster in town. There were black and white posters of me and Anupam Kher, not the heartthrob kind of guys. The movie did not do well in the first week. It picked up from the second week.â
Naseer Sahab has made a solid point at a time when mushrooming of Media has resulted in too much of content dissemination (many a times harping on sensational âjuicyâ stories). The need of the hour is to identify the right platforms and journalists that add value instead of carpet bombing that only tires out the stars.
SATYAMSHOT 
February 1, 2017 at 11:52 PM
New week New cinema
New josh New comments
Let’s begin one again Sanjana
And we all become Aamirsfan
To Master the world of entertainment
By watching Jolly LLB2 next week.
#8 Days to go
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February 2, 2017 at 12:05 AM
Message to Aamir Khan- why do you put all your eggs in the same basket. Once the omlette is made, basket remains empty for years. Fans get hungry. Hungry stomach causes Nasha. Nashe mein log ladte hai aur baaki enjoy karte hain.
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February 2, 2017 at 12:11 AM
Message to SRK – Become vegetarian and Desi. Rename you next movie Ring. Naam se bachche Dar jaayenge ki kahin screen se SRK na baahar aa jaaye. Call it Angoothi Nikaal ke le jaayenge. 400 cr
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February 2, 2017 at 12:15 AM
You are funny! đ
What happened here..I also didn’t see. Maybe aamir fans feel like taking a break after counting all those crores!
How much Raees and Kaabil earned yesterday? Roshan figures, chillie figures, boi figures..sab chalega..
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February 2, 2017 at 6:36 AM
yes both papa roshan and srk are waiting for amirs response, whats the secret behind dangal success,so srk can re-shoot the Ring and roshan can get the idea of krish 4…whats done is done with Raees & Kaabil…both celebrating the success even though a minor success…ts a success….lol
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February 2, 2017 at 12:30 AM
ha ha – what have we come to:-))) why group ppl like Aamir-fan / SRK-Fan etc? I am a cinema-fan and I like aamir because of body of his work but that doesn’t make me anti-srk or anti-sallu or anti-akki!! I have liked their works also at times – and each one has a choice and opinion – and that is how such blogs exist – if we pick up silly fights then the fun to contribute and read what others put up here goes away….come on guys – be mature – except for abusive language – u can write whatever u want here as far as it does not distract too much from Cinema…..
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February 2, 2017 at 3:09 AM
BOI deary me just give number and nothing else. Your writing is crap and dillusioned.
It’s pro Raees and anti Kaabil to the core.
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February 2, 2017 at 4:07 AM
In just 8 days, there is a differential of 20 cr between Kaabil’s producer total (85 cr) and BOI’s (65 cr). Such difference of 20 cr existed for Red Chillies’ CE & HNY for their entire run – not in one week!
Roshans play this game at a different level altogether. And BOI perhaps gives the lowest possible estimates for Kaabil, Bang Bang, Krrish etc. Quite a pair these two make together.
And BOI’s rants are quite funny. Recently they went after DCH for no apparent reason whatsoever. They called it a flop or below average and that it was rejected – blah blah. IF it was not profitable with business of 20 cr or so back in 2001, then it would not have set the trend of making multiplex oriented movies for urban audience. The industry never follows a ‘rejected’ film as a trendsetter.
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February 2, 2017 at 5:06 AM
It’s pro Srk than Raees , clearing saying whatever Raees is doing is because of srk star power . Quiet amusing actually Aamir has given 3 consecutive All Time Grossers but never read a word of appreciation for Aamir from BOI but srk underperformer gets an excuse article that why the movie is not a big hit , srk needs a film with content and numbers would come blah blah ..
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February 2, 2017 at 5:58 AM
yeah they have to keep stating with every film ‘x wasn’t good on content but SRK’s star power gave it the opening’. Only fans say these sorts of things constantly!
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February 2, 2017 at 8:05 AM
their report today on Raees is quite the gag reel! In all sorts of ways. the lower the film’s total is projected to be (they’re now saying 130 +) the more their own ‘hits’ keep coming out!
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February 2, 2017 at 8:45 AM
Yes they are talking about 130 cr plus finish now , also according to them the budget of the film is 127 cr http://boxofficeindia.com/movie.php?movieid=3460
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February 2, 2017 at 10:13 AM
I think the sole intention of SRK and Roshan’s has been to create the impression in the media that their film are hit films. If you start off with the end state, everything you say or do or present in terms of collections, media interaction unfortunately has to satisfy that end state.
This is pure insecurity at display. Both decided that their film is hit even before the collections are there. Many others do the same for their films. But because of clash they’ve developed a bad unprofessional mentality and really now are fighting at gutter levels. Things can’t stoop much lower.
Highly immature stuff by apparently friends on good terms.
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February 2, 2017 at 12:29 PM
Agreed. Their articles are so poorly written. I don’t mind their argument about Dil Chahta Hai but the quality of their articles are embarrassing. They never give the writer’s name. I wonder who writes this dross.
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February 2, 2017 at 5:19 AM
LMAO Rakesh Roshan (@RakeshRoshan_N) Verified 1 hour ago
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In view of the great response KAABIL is receiving across, exhibitors are adding up 200 PLUS new cinemas in the 2nd week.đđť#Kaabil @iHrithik
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February 2, 2017 at 5:59 AM
the amusing thing about all this is that Rakesh Roshan has become such a laughing stock but he keeps doing this. Not sure who this ‘fiction’ is meant to convince since everyone from the trade to people online seem to be laughing.
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February 2, 2017 at 6:39 AM
maybe roshan next film will be ” handicapped ” 100cr as starting point…lol
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February 2, 2017 at 7:03 AM
With Krrish he has trying to portray it as an ATBB. This time, he is trying to save his face from a complete underperformer. But instead of saving his reputation, all this ‘fixing’ has ruined his reputation. His own distributors are unhappy this time, as they will perhaps lose money.
The next Filmkarft film will be a Krrish sequel. Without a franchise film, he will find it hard to get decent diatribution price for his next – specially when his own trade friends are upset and complaining.
Amidst all this they are throwing ‘success’parties.
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February 2, 2017 at 6:17 AM
Yeah Dangal missed the 400 cr by 15-20 cr but i am sure if Rakesh Roshan was the producer there it would have been the first 500 cr grosser !
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February 2, 2017 at 6:25 AM
Been trying to post the srk article but it won’t let me for some reason , not sure if its in the moderation ?
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February 2, 2017 at 7:33 AM
somehow it went into spam.
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February 2, 2017 at 6:47 AM
Watched Raees finally. Totally banal movie. Zero emotional connect. It is not a 200 CR type of movie even if released with out clash. But as a SRK fan feeling happy that after dilwale fiasco he is doing acting finally. First fan now Raees. Though I like Fan more. Fan was unadulterated movie then Robin Hood Raees.
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February 2, 2017 at 6:56 AM
http://www.indicine.com/movies/bollywood/know-collections-films-last-penny-shah-rukh-khan/
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February 2, 2017 at 9:02 AM
SRK sounds very pissed off here – at trade figures that are being tracked. It almost seems like Papa Roshan speaking.
Red Chillies has a record of inflating figures (although not at Rakesh Roshan level). The difference between their figures and BOI’s numbers were 20 cr for CE and HYN, 10 cr for Dilwale. And now Raees weekdays surely look inflated by Red Chillies.
That 115 cr figure in 8 days will probably be in 105-110 cr range.
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February 2, 2017 at 8:02 AM
Filmfare â@filmfare 4h4 hours ago
“We will never release our film around Eid, it’s @BeingSalmanKhan’s zone.” – @karanjohar at the #BadrinathKiDulhaniaTrailer launch
Badrinath Ki Dulhania – Official Trailer | Karan Johar | Varun Dhawan | Alia Bhatt
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February 2, 2017 at 8:14 PM
Surprised, the most happening and proven upcoming stars of young generation have not found a separate post.
I like the trailer and just love the bhaiyya lingo and surprisingly Alia gets the twang better than Varun. Will be a fun watch.
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February 2, 2017 at 9:04 AM
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If SRK considers himself a star n his film doesn’t do half business of Salman-Aamir’s film so he himself should call it flop for reputation.
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Top Khans films don’t become hit-Flop by profit only. Their films must do min 200Cr to be called hit. Akshay Ajay films become hit by profit
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If SRK calls himself superstar then #Raees is flop. But if he considers himself in league of Ajay Akshay then it’s a hit. So Let him decide.
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Dilwale’s business- 10Cr on Monday, 9Cr on Tuesday! Raees- 6Cr on Monday n 5Cr on Tuesday. Now you can easily understand how big flop Raees!
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February 2, 2017 at 9:04 AM
think the point about standards is a fair one.. some of us have been arguing for exactly this over here.. you can’t have it every which way. You can’t say he’s a big star on day 1 and then it’s all about ‘content’!
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February 2, 2017 at 10:42 AM
KRK tweets would make sense provided he remained impartial, an objective observer with consistency of the past. Lately all the attention seems to have gone to his bloated head as if he is the one who makes and breaks stars. Either Sanjay Gupta requested or Roshans made the effort but like Shivaay-ADHM, one fine day he is on a single track of trashing Raees. I still donât think people will throw money at this monkey & probably the egomaniac just needs to be pampered and must have assured the makers of Kaabil âme me krk will make your movie hit. Donât worry main raees ki crash kar doonga đ đ
I have seen both movies and each worse than the other and they are lucky to reach these figs considering how tough it is for rest of the movies to get to even 70-80cr. Without 5-day republic day weekend and even without a clash both would find it tough to reach 100cr. Just weekend biz cannot take movies to safety….. They are âbundle moviesâ like they use to say in old times and time pass would be an understatement for a movie like Kaabil because the plot holes get on your nerve after a while. Raees is badly edited in trying to reduce duration hence in many scenes it is difficult to justify why the characters did this or that….more like PRDP zone of abrupt edit.
On krk , may be its kjo behind the scene working for Ranbir or Hirani himself who sent sanjay dutt as some sort of emissary for Dutt biopic going by the lunch pic he put with Dutt recently to massage his ego. He is already hyping the movie in case of a anticipated clash with TZH. Salman like Ajay is straightforward and does not entertain such arseholes in the first place and least bothered on box office outcome once the movie hit the theatre. But one good thing is his antics have now become a bit more exposed and after Sultan and Dangal he had to eat shit again with biased twitter storm. Fact is eventually even after all biased applauds ADHM wrapped under 100cr.
KRKVerified account â@kamaalrkhan 7 Nov 2016
Had lunch with my favourite star Sanju Baba.
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February 3, 2017 at 9:13 AM
Interesting piece which clearly shows bollywood is influenced by the antics of this pompous arsehole. He is also making use of the divisions within the film industry and people using him to settle scores. This is further to my earlier Shekhar Gupta article on ills of social media and the affect on our society.
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The Dark Side of the Moon: Vikram Bhatt slams KRK for SRK
https://www.pinkvilla.com/entertainment/discussion/372026/dark-side-moon-vikram-bhatt-slams-krk-srk
Imagine this if you will. Imagine that you have in your collection a masterpiece by the great Rembrandt. Now imagine that a fool who does not understand art convinces you that it is just a worthless piece of canvas. Now imagine that you listen to this fool and burn the painting down. Can you imagine yourself doing this?
Imagine now that you own a Model T Ford. A fabulous vintage car that a fool convinces you does not drive anymore so you should push it down the cliff. Now imagine you do this. Are you this person?
Imagine a bottle of the oldest wine. Imagine a heritage property. Imagine antiques. Imagine your parents. Imagine your grandparents. Imagine that you are throwing all this away because you feel all this is worthless. Are you this person?
If you are not, read on, for if you are, chances are you may not like this piece.
Last week we in the world of âBollywoodâ, how I hate that term, we had two films release. One was Kaabil, with Hrithik Roshan in the lead. Hrithik and I have worked together and though not a very memorable film, he shall remain one of the best human beings I have met in my life. I shall always hold him close to my heart. The second one was Raaes, with Shah Rukh Khan. I have never worked with Shah Rukh and know him only socially, a powerhouse talent though and that is not even something that needs a mention.
Cut away now, as we say in film parlance, to a man by the name of Kamaal R Khan, with whom I have had a tryst in past and while a lot of people are easily scared of him or don’t want to be at the receiving end of his malicious tweets, I for one, have never really cared about malice. Infamy has never really perturbed me. Like fame, it is only temporary, but I digress.
Quite clearly Kaamal R Khan has decided to use all his power to bring Raaes down but it does not end there. To make my case I have no choice but to paste a few of his tweets here.
Why Pak govt allowed to release #Kaabil but not #Raees? Because Pak govt wants people to watch a better film instead Ghisapita masala film.
I agree that SRK was a super star but his attitude and thinking is of Kunal Khemu. This is why he is not a super star today. Purity is must.
If you have watched #Raees and you want ur money back from SRK then RT this. If you liked the film, then like it.
By GOD Ki Kasam SRK’s success party would have come superhit in media if he could have called it #Raees flop party Instead of success party.
After flop result of #Raees, SRK has gone out of 3 Khans league n joined Ajay, Akshay, Ranbir, Hrithik n Ranveer singh. Fair enough!
Last 4 films Of SRK- #HappyNewYear- Flop, #Dilwale- Flop, #Fan- Disaster, #Raees- Flop coz it will do lifetime max 150Cr like Dilwale. If Salman khan is the hero in #Raees then 100% it will do 200+Cr business means definitely SRK is not in the league of 3Khans anymore.
Hey SRK fans if SRK is in league of Ajay-Akshay then #Raees is hit n if he is 3rd Khan then #Raees is super flop. Now decide what tag u want
Hey dear SRK fans, you RT this tweet to accept that now SRK is in the league of Ajay n Akshay not 3 Khans n I will declare #Raees super hit.
I am sure you get an idea from these tweets, what I am about to say, yet do stick with me for a bit more.
A lot of people around me are rolling their eyes as I write this piece. They complain that this is not my problem. Shah Rukh does not need a piece from me and it will make no difference to the great KRK. They are probably right but they are wrong to say that this is not my problem. This is my problem, it very much is my problem and if you don’t get why, scroll up and read again.
My Grandfather sat me down on his lap when I was little and shared with me an insight that never leaves me. He said, âVikram, there are two kinds of people. One, that seek fame and power with their immense talent and ability. The other, more dangerous kinds, are the ones who want to smear the first kind to seek power and fame.â
I believe, you can be one of the two. A person who gets ahead by getting ahead or a person who wants to get ahead by pulling others behind. The second kind never really stays forever for they can, at best, bask in the reflected glory. The glory of the ones who are ahead. The first kind can easily do without the second but the second kind needs the first, for it needs succesful people to attack. Without anyone to attack they lose their importance.
This man calls himself a critic, but don’t be fooled by that, for he is not. He is a slander machine and gets ahead by that very same slander.
If you should read the tweets and there are many more on his tweet timeline, you will see a pattern emerge. This man called KRK is not reviewing a film, he wants to systematically attack the stardom of Shah Rukh Khan. Not that it makes a difference to Shah Rukh Khan but it does, as I said to me.
I do know that icon making and breaking has been the most primitive past time for most but pause here, for pause we must undertand this, a legend is a legend and we cannot standby when someone is trying so hard to bring one down. For the legend does not care but the legend belongs to us and we must care for our legends, like we would care for all things of great value around us. If we standby and watch this schoolyard bully tarnish our legends for his personal gain then we are the fools who are burning the Rembrandt, throwing the Model T of the cliff and disrespecting all things that only grow in value with every passing day.
Success and failures are not people, they are only incidents. In a fast changing universe, they are daily occurences. Use that for slander and you are just an arrogant fool with a ridiculous level of self importance.
I am proud of my legends be it Amitabh Bachchan, Salman Khan, Shah Rukh Khan, Aamir Khan or the lesser known ones today of the bygone era. They are the greats and they will remain the greats. Should my or rather our legends not see a single succesful film from today, they will still remain legends. Like the other priceless things they get more priceless with each passing day.
I don’t care if no one should stand with me on this. Attack my legends and I will attack you Mr-Self-proclamined-Critic! I will not let you be the primordial barbarian trying to bring my temples down. I shall mud wrestle with you and bury you in that very same mud!
For all those who still don’t agree, please refer to the tweet below. Can you stand by and watch this happen to the greatest of all legends who gave us our freedom?
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February 2, 2017 at 9:11 AM
Incidentally Taran and Komal have stopped tweeting about both films. And Nahta a couple of days ago was talking about Raees breaking records in Singapore. Nothing about India. Whether it’s them or BOI or whoever it’s not the dishonesty that offends me as much as the sheer stupidity with which it is practiced. Let me put it this way, if I were a star and wanted a propaganda machine these guys or BOI wouldn’t make it to my list. I wouldn’t want dumb folks doing the job.
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February 2, 2017 at 9:28 AM
If one looks at the final grosses of SRK’s last 3-4 films – Dilwale, Fan, DZ and Raees – he is surely in Akshay’s bracket now? Why place him at Aamir/Salman level?
Akshay delivers 3-4 of such grossers every year.
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February 2, 2017 at 9:40 AM
How can SRK be in Akshay’s league when a flop like Dilwale has made more money than the biggest Akshay hit?
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February 2, 2017 at 9:46 AM
I was not referring to verdicts, just the final grosses being in the same range.
Verdicts can be given based on different parameters and differs from person to person. For example – BOI calls Dilwale a semi-hit movie, you are calling it a flop.
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February 2, 2017 at 10:02 AM
Dilwale made 139. Rowdy Rathode made 131. Dilwale is considered a flop. RR is Akshay’s biggest hit. No ‘verdict’ needed.
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February 2, 2017 at 10:01 AM
that’s going too far.. Akshay rarely crosses 100-120 these days even with very commercial films. not referring to stuff like Rustom (though the problem precisely is that whether it’s Houseful or Rustom he’s more or less in the same range these days). In any case those are considered hits for Akshay no questions asked. Where I do think the fans are foolish is that by calling films like Dilwale or whatever semi hits or hits they actually do the opposite — they reduce SRK’s standing. Then there are all these games about ‘he was only trying to get 100’ or what have you. When the films fail they’re either ‘bad content’ or they’re ‘good content but not for families’. You add it all up and it’s a lot of excuses! Ultimately there’s no running away from reality. HNY if it released today probably wouldn’t cross 150. Because there is a relative decline even in this sense over time. SRK fans have been waiting for the big one for him forever. Irrespective of genre it just never happens. CE was an exception (even this didn’t threaten anyone else’s records). A star in decline can still put up good opening numbers but it is the follow-through that the problems always come up. It’s happened to much greater stars than SRK.
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February 2, 2017 at 10:28 AM
One can expect inconsistencies from fans, but its objectionable when a trade site like BOI does the same. They call everything under the sun from RaOne to Don2 to JTHJ or MNIK as clean hits, irrespective of their grosses in India, and then claim SRK is one of the biggest superstars around.
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February 2, 2017 at 11:22 AM
forget fans or trade sites. Here is a fact: Akshay has not breached the 140 number. Let him do this first before we talk about his box office pull.
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February 2, 2017 at 10:31 PM
What’s the point by posting KRK tweets? Why are you bent upon degrading the crediablity of this blog? KRK is the most pathetic creature on this planet and sensible souls like yourself need to stay away from such people.
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February 2, 2017 at 9:36 AM
This is truly embarrassing…..success party for a 130-140 CR movie?? Poor SRK.
Now lets take a look at the success party for a somewhat bigger hit!
Hard to tell which movie made almost a third of the other movie!!!
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February 2, 2017 at 10:08 AM
“”Ultimately, film-making is difficult. Sometimes, we can go wrong, but I would still want to follow my own creative instinct, and do films that excite me. When I hear a script, I pretend to be the audience at that time. If it excites, touches or moves me, then I want to be part of it.” – Aamir
http://www.bollywood.com/celebrities/aamir-khan/news/aamir-khan-force-reckon
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February 2, 2017 at 10:17 AM
Myselfaamir !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Re.- I have been here since the inception of this blog & very emotionally attached as I have got to learn inmensely from the members of this blog especially Satyam.
I am so deeply hurt man, Hum kya yahan moongfali baant rahe hain ?? LOL
Aside- don’t be so mad, ignore the trolls and move on , but don’t stop commenting here .
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February 2, 2017 at 10:25 AM
Hopefully its a momentary thing and he isn’t leaving…
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February 2, 2017 at 2:10 PM
Hey Meselfaamir – now that Basanti aa gayee hai, Dhanno bhee aa hee jao !!!
here is a joke to make you come back-
Punjabi to a Haryanvi grocery seller- “Bhai LitP tan dee Chaha hai ??”
Haryanvi – Bhai mainney toh nah hai, tanney hai toh lipat jaa …..
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February 2, 2017 at 2:29 PM
For myselfaamir
And a big old fashioned moon to BOI and anyone criticizing this modern day classic.
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February 2, 2017 at 10:21 AM
Sanjana , My Samachar.com !!
Bloddy hell – you can’t leave !!
who is going to provide us all the news from JNY, Troll.com, Halfakingston.com, etc. ?? LOL
never ever imagined the two most cool minded person – Aamir and Sanjana to suddenly get so riled up.
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February 2, 2017 at 10:28 AM
actually missed the Sanjana thing earlier. Thanks for bringing it up.
So this is addressed to Sanjana.. do not leave! The same to Aamirsfan.
Again I’ll only repeat what Munna said.. both comments were eventually removed.. but c’mon guys no one monitors the blog 100% of the time. And things sometimes get missed. Once there’s a complaint the comments are usually removed. There’s no need to leave. Just remember if you do you’re making the world less safe for Aamir fans! Ha! Just kidding..
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February 2, 2017 at 10:56 AM
Nobody has to leave as everyone contributes in some way to blog. We may not like each other but that is okay till we are respectful to each other. It is also fact that we lose temper and say things which we retrospectively regret because we are not that person.
Hopefully myselfaamir, Sanjana and Master keep on commenting.
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February 2, 2017 at 12:05 PM
I don’t know what these specific comments were, and I am sure it has hurt one or two members. Sometimes things go out of control and angry words are exchanged, but unless a member is truly vicious and being an annoyance in general, I think it is best to ignore and move on.
All the two-three members involved in this small little drama are intelligent, respectful members. Yes, they might like one star a little more than the other, but they all make reasonable comments and act in good faith. I engage a lot with Master even if I hold a different view, because I think he is ultimately reasonable. When i don’t argue/engage with someone, it is probably because it is not worth it. We’re on different planes and I rather enjoy their comments for the entertainment and variety they bring to the blog.
The blog has always been more cerebral than other filmy blogs you will find. The result is, yes, you will have more takers and sympathizers for Aamir, Raju Hirani, Mani Ratnam and alternative/sensible cinema as opposed to Salman, Akki and Rohit Shettys of the world. That should change, given both Akki and Salman are now doing good films. Shah Rukh is in the middle. He’s always considered a premium star on any level.
Considering the obvious ideological leaning of the blog, I do think it is vital to have a good enough representation of fans of all kind of stars and films. Not those who indulge in rabid, puerile fan-talk but those who can bring balance when the scales tilt too much in favour of one particular star (in this case Aamir.) It makes the blog entertaining and more alive!
In view of that, there’s no harm if one is a little lenient and gracious towards members of stars who are not adequately represented. I always believe the majority has to look the other way sometimes to make people feel welcome.
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February 2, 2017 at 12:25 PM
@”obvious ideological leaning of the blog”
Thanks for calling a spade a spade. I love it !!!
Ab itna bola hai toh baaki ka bhi bol do but remember Bachchan love is old story and update loyalties to our desi Tom Hanks.:-) đ
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February 2, 2017 at 12:41 PM
This is quite a comment and shows a better and another side of Sandhyai.
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February 2, 2017 at 11:33 AM
Please don’t leave myselfaamir and sanjana.it is a request
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February 2, 2017 at 10:27 AM
Yesterday while diving back from work, I put on the SRK podcast by AIB.
I have to admit he was pretty witty and badass in a good way.
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February 2, 2017 at 11:17 AM
I agree…just watched both parts on youtube. Very entertaining! SRK in this kind of setup is always a fun interview.
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February 2, 2017 at 3:59 PM
isse accha toh Nawaz kaa tha. Hilatey jyada hai,, muttay kum…LMAO. SRK is going thru’ existential crisis..it is apparent from that AIB podcast bechara.
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February 2, 2017 at 11:32 AM
I have such high expectations in terms of humour with AIB that I was in fact a bit disappointed with this SRK episode. The AIB chaps seemed too much in awe and were behaving life fan boys. SRK also wasn’t particularly funny. I know some people have liked it a lot, so I want others to see it and back me up here đ
I liked it overall, but I wasn’t floored the way some people have been. The setting was special – SRK’s home.
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February 2, 2017 at 12:10 PM
Same here even I found it forced. Maybe it was a different experience for Rocky if he was listening only. But I watched it on Youtube and srk body language again suspect in trying to sound and be cool.
The day he stops trying he is going to get back to his flair and real natural self. This is the thing with big stars – they don’t realise they are naturally gifted and even if they just remain their usual self, that is sufficient to cast magic spell on screen. It is the same for Dilip Kumar, Bachchan, SRK, Aamir, Salman all of them. I think complication arise when they start to get conscious of their stardom / success or ( sense of humor in this instance ) and feel they have broken the code of their fame. Later in trying to cling to the same reputation, their insecurities make them chase their own personage. Whereas the truth of the matter is just their inherent natural gift is sufficient to do the job and any more effort then becomes a diversion and comes across as forced.
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February 2, 2017 at 1:15 PM
“Same here even I found it forced. ”
Lol. Honestly, I think only SRK can carry this kind of interviews and its right up his alley. Aamir and Salman doesn’t have ‘this’ kind of humor to deal with AIB folks.
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February 2, 2017 at 1:27 PM
It’s not about whether other stars can carry off AIB humour or not. I just didn’t find it particularly funny. I preferred him on the Kapil Sharma show. He wasn’t joking but his reactions to others’ jokes are spontaneous and genuine.
Master, one has a right to not be floored by something!
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February 2, 2017 at 1:31 PM
“Master, one has a right to not be floored by something!”
Completely.. good you reminded me Kapil’s show. I didn’t think he was funny there but very good in AIB. So, different sense of humor, I guess.
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February 2, 2017 at 1:44 PM
Unfortunately I watched the video hence found comic timing all wrong. Body language and movement of shoulders all over the placeâŚâŚ face and expressions donât gel with the jokesâŚlike I said above â âsuspect in trying to sound and be coolâ There is a difference between genuine humor and sounding a wannabe.
True please do let me have the right not to be floored with anything and everything.
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February 2, 2017 at 2:06 PM
Dhoni to be honest the interview did not even need the a$$ holes of AIB, they were just there as furniture.
SRK did most of the talking.
The AIB gang is so overrated and biased that had a “Bhakt” not recommended the podcast, I would not even have listened to it.
Yahee diference hai Bhakt and tards mein !!!
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February 2, 2017 at 1:13 PM
Sandyi, I’m surprised to hear this. I think after long time SRK was completely relaxed as this was shot 27th Jan and he was relieved Raees opened well and let his hair down. Also this AIB Podcast is not always hilarious and its more of interview with fun and for that it was very entertaining.
Just some highlights in this thread and you’ll recollect the his 1-liners. This is just from Part 1. Easy for folks to read this who have not seen the video or heard the audio.
https://www.buzzfeed.com/soniathomas/do-you-love-me-srk?utm_term=.quLYYr7M#.qrBzz1Oo
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February 2, 2017 at 11:51 AM
So last week’s thread was about SRK bashing.
This week is about salvaging him.
Guys- SRK is a very big star. Aamir needs a Dangal to stay on top, SRK doesn’t. What Aamir has been doing this decade, SRK did it and was ahead of the curve. Am not trying to pull down Aamir. Just giving my perspective.
Raees is a Hit based on its cost. Simple.
When people like KRK try to spin a story and is selectively lauded by few here, smell a rat.
Tomorrow if Aamir makes a film for RS 1 cr and that movie makes 1.5 cr the same brigade with change their stand to cost based Hits.
Till then enjoy Raees. And yes, Kaabil is a success too. Would have loved to see it becoming a hit, but sad it got squeezed in a clash.
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February 2, 2017 at 11:56 AM
‘What Aamir has been doing this decade, SRK did it and was ahead of the curve”
Remind me again when SRK delivered 5 All time grossers in a span of 8 years?
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February 2, 2017 at 12:28 PM
probably what naveen is saying that srk is ” brand ” and that is enough to make srk whatever crap he makes as an auto-hit..
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February 2, 2017 at 12:00 PM
What Aamir has been doing this decade, SRK did it and was ahead of the curve.
@naveen,when did srk gave 5 ATHG in 6 movies.i want to know and out of those 5,4 are ATBB’s as well and 3 are critically acclaimed par excellence and 2 are the most critically acclaimed movies after lagaan in last 15-16 yrs.
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February 2, 2017 at 12:07 PM
Excuse me- delivering all time grossers is not the only criteria to be a Topnstar.
Fortunately I was born to see glimpses of Amitabh’s stardom which remains unmatched.
Then saw Sanjay Dutt becoming craze of the nation while I was learning to wear diapers.
Then Aamir Khan was launched in a big way and enjoyed 10 months of extraordinary debut till Maine Pyar Kiya happened for Salman Khan.
Then Deewana came and for a long time since then and till Ghajini, SRK was mostly the top star. From Ghajini Aamir took over from SRK and never looked back. Dabangg happened and since then Salman has mostly given blockbusters (all but one).
Despite all this SRK body of work is so huge that his stardom is extraordinary. Lots of his films are absolute gem. I love him more than Aamir and less than Salman and AKSHAY. All this with very little degree of difference and to the extent that I enjoy all of their movies.
Don’t like bringing down one star to promote another. I am no saint but try to be sane.
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February 2, 2017 at 12:16 PM
You are right…WTH was I thinking: BO numbers to decide who the top star is….stupid stupid stupid.
I love that you now bring in Bachchan, Sanjay Dutt, Aamir, Salman, and SRK to the argument. Not sure what ALL THAT has to do with Aamir’s last 8 years to ANY SRK 8 years. Again, SRK was a box office force BUT he never EVER EVER came close to what Aamir is doing right now. Also, his ‘lots of gem films’ have nothing to do with his box office pull. Nawazuddin Siddiqui has given LOTS of great performances lately but would you make him a TOP star right now?
This is not about bringing down any star but please get your facts straight…or at least make an attempt.
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February 3, 2017 at 1:56 AM
amir needs a Dangal to stay on top, SRK doesnât.
@naveen,wah kya logic hai.aamir has to deliver another ATHG and ATBB after 4 out his last 5 movies r ATHG to stay on top(before dangal),while SRK doesn’t need anything to stay on top even after last 8 out of 9 films being underperformers(before raees).
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February 2, 2017 at 11:51 AM
I am really sorry and It was an impulsive decision on my part to stand with myselfaamir who was trying to be heard. He is quite a level headed guy and rarely he jumps the gun.
I am back to my mayka that is SS. Hope he will be back. I dont hold grudges for more than 10 minutes against anyone as life is too short and cant be wasted over trivial things like fan wars or blog wars.
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February 2, 2017 at 11:57 AM
You are the only sane Aamir fan here. Missed you when you left for half a day.
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February 2, 2017 at 11:59 AM
thanks Naveen.
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February 2, 2017 at 12:08 PM
‘sane’ Aamir fan. Lets define sanity here:
– Call PK a FLOP the day it was released…then later claim that it was a joke
– believing that Robot 2 would make 700 CR? 800 CR? because the greatest BO draw of all time Akshay Kumar is in it
– believing Jolly LLB2 wil get to ‘200 CR if it has good songs’
Yup…all sane stuff here.
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February 2, 2017 at 1:40 PM
Aamir..naam chunke rakha hai.. Its all money money money for his fans!
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February 2, 2017 at 12:48 PM
Mayka đ
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February 2, 2017 at 1:20 PM
Honestly never issue with Sanjana and I would never talk disrespectful to a female either. She just got pissed when I replied her ‘back stabbing’ comment with an example of Aamir’s similar action he did long back. For that she blindly supported 1 side and took over Aamir bandwagon and trying to support another another Aamir fan.
I just want to put this out for folks who might think that I spoke something about her as well in my deleted comments. She was nowhere in the picture or topic.
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February 2, 2017 at 2:06 PM
HA!
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February 2, 2017 at 12:20 PM
200 screens r adding for dangal in week7 insane.cld cross 375 cr in hindi version alone.btw dangal crosses 30m$ in overseas.why is there no update on dangal FF by BOI?cld cross border FF of 3.70 cr.on lighter note raees screens r being reduced.
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February 2, 2017 at 12:36 PM
Bollywood star Hrithik Roshan says that like any normal person, he too has been in situations where he has lost all hope. But he sees such adversities are god-given opportunities to become an improved person, one who understands life and the world better.
“They (good or bad times) affect me just like they affect anybody else. I become very comfortable with my adversities because of a few philosophies that I believe in. I never take anything too seriously.
“When you face adversity, god is giving you an opportunity to become a better person, a better character, more informed and educated about your life and the world,” Hrithik told IANS in a telephonic interview from Mumbai.
The 43-year-old, a father of two, says it has taken him almost half his life to realise that he is an adventurer at heart.
“I am an adventurer who can’t end up doing the same things every day. An adventurer explores and goes places where he is afraid of going, and this holds true for me as an actor as well,” he said.
The actor’s struggle to overcome a stammer during his growing-up years, a broken marriage with childhood sweetheart Sussanne Khan and his legal battle with actress Kangana Ranaut — these have been some of the phases in Hrithik’s life which grabbed public and media attention. But his charisma has remained intact for his fans.
This has been proved once again with the success of his latest release “Kaabil”. The film had a box office clash with Shah Rukh Khan-starrer “Raees”, but it has managed to mint nearly Rs 80 crore in the seven days since its release.
Asked if the film could have done better business if not released with the superstar’s film, Hrithik said what matters is “not the gold”.
“What matters is if you are putting your 100 per cent in the work,” he said, adding: “One important thing I have learnt from this (box office clash), and something I have been teaching my kids, is that the gold is not important; what is important is to run at your best.”
“Kaabil” is a revenge drama involving a visually-challenged couple. Hrithik plays a man whose wife (Yami Gautam) is raped, and he sets out to seek revenge.
The rape scene and the incident’s effect on the victim — who commits suicide — have not been received too well by some.
Defending the film, Hrithik said it’s not negative at all.
“This is the depiction of human reality… Where sometimes in our life, (even) I felt that there is no reason to go on. (You feel) so low and down that you fail to see any prospect of a happy future. Many of us have been through adversities where it seems like ‘This is the end and one can’t go on’. While some of us succumb to it, some of us don’t.
“This is the story of a simple, sweet girl who goes through so much, not once, but twice — and she unfortunately succumbs to it. On the other hand, it is also the story of a man who fights for justice, love, life, truth, and that is the brightness. After something bad, the good happens, and this is what the film is all about.
“Adversity is very important to bring out the victory at the end, just like in life,” said the actor who was also appreciated for his roles in “Bang Bang”, “Krrish”, “Koi Mil Gaya” and “Jodhaa Akbar”.
So, what next after “Kaabil”?
“Everything is undecided right now. I haven’t signed any film. I liked a few scripts. Will take some time to decide,” he signed off.
http://www.india-forums.com/bollywood/starry-takes/74637-adversity-is-important-for-victory-at-the-end-hrithik-roshan.htm
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February 2, 2017 at 1:14 PM
I feel the Boxoffice is now defining how we become Fanboys. Its the same thing with Apple/Android, ManIU/Arsenal etc etc. Basically there are 2 things. The Boxoffice of today that you see in comments of site like Indicine, BollyArena etc is all about this new trend about general interest in 100 cr -300cr etc. Look at the youtube videos of the Audience Verdict , every one is giving out comments like Trade Analyst, itna nahi karegi, clash hai and non holiday hai etc etc.
I cannot completely blame the industry wherein the sentiment or mood of a film is based on perception and what is being talked about . I have liked Aamir and then Hrithik consistently. However when i used to like Aamir was due to his underdog scenario of doing films and probably losing the media perception and then Hrithik. Now recently for past few years i have liked SRK, since the perception for me is his being underdog and trying way too hard for his films.
for Salman its on and off. When i see him in Big Boss, thats splendid but when i see him in other interviews and sometimes in movies, i completely shut down on him. Out of all the blockbusters BB and to an extent Sultan is a good body of work for him and he has now realized this, thats why it seems he is now more content focussed. But him getting close to SRK (or rather sRK using Salman) is again casting clouds on the movie.
See for Past 10 years, 2007 + (CDI came in that year). SRK’s perception has become one of shouting top of his lungs in media, over promotion, extra reach and all this for Sub Par films. Thats the biggest dent for him with Neutral Audiences. They see through these tactics now.
As far as this portal, i feel its too Aamir leaning and we need good diversity on members to have punches across the aisle.
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February 2, 2017 at 2:04 PM
No updates on Wednesday collections? Might have crashed. The way these two movies are going, Dangal might start scoring more from next weekend onwards.
BOI articles as usual are so lame and joke. Many times during the same articles itself they look confused.
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February 2, 2017 at 1:46 PM
With all the recent stuff happening on the blog, I’m not leaving but certainly slowing down henceforth. That’s the reason I posted few comments today and end this awkwardness. Will be around..
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February 2, 2017 at 4:28 PM
I’m truly overwhelmed by the love & support of the fellow members of this blog for me, felt really touched & special đ
Rocky Dada your message left me in splits, love you & want to clear your doubt that when I talked of learning, it was from all the members including you & feel sorry if that hurt you đ
Thanks galore Sanjana for standing by my side & even going to such an extreme decision of leaving, I’m deeply moved & grateful to you for your immense support đ
Thanks very much Jay for your support & care, means a lot to me đ
Thanks Naveen & livewire for infusing wit & humour in such heavy times & making me feel “wanted” despite our diffrences of opinions đ
Thanks Sandy, aamirsaurabh & belphegorjanak for your sensible comments.
But I’d like to add one thing that it’s not about anything personal against Master or any other member but just asking for a fair verdict as abusing or use of foul language should never be tolerated regardless of any situation & the abusive comment by Master was there for a long time but nothing was done, so after a while I purposely retorted in the same colourful language which Munna Sir read in a flash & deleted without warning Master for initiating it! And despite my repeated attempts to make him understand my indignance, he kept treating both comments as equal which riled me up as I was made to feel & look like an offender & being equated for something I was forced to retaliate! Master in his earlier comment had termed An Jo dumb as well which was personal & insulting both yet Munna Sir didn’t intervene at that point! And it was more to do with Master’s brashful & brazen behaviour as he continues to be unalologetic
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February 2, 2017 at 4:33 PM
Let’s end this here.
Be a man!
I will pause to criticize BOI again. To say the bromance in this film may have inspired some crap but also Hirani’s film like Munnabhai’s and 3 Idiots rely greatly on friendship, bromance & humour of this kind. So I’m unclear on their tirade. Even Kal Ho Na Ho incorporated this between SRK and SAK. RDB has electric elements too. Maybe DCH was slightly ahead of its time when multiplex culture was just on the horizon, but if a similar film released now it would ROAR in the multiplexes. The focus was too heavy on the corporates and Imtiaz Ali’s of the world. He’s a good director anyway.
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February 3, 2017 at 2:04 AM
i don’t agree with BOI at all abt DCH.If it releases today,min 170-180 cr wld be done.they have somewhat been proved wrong as they were excited abt raees being a massy affair still result is there in front of everyone which is in contradiction with their expectations of Raees BO.i guess they have somewhat been proved wrong with raees
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February 2, 2017 at 4:40 PM
Myselfaamir – I normally don’t read all comments (I am almost sure that is true for Satyam as well). I read yours, then I saw what Master has written. Ideally I think members, if they don’t like something, should draw attention of moderators. If nothing happens say after significant time then I think it is a problem.
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February 2, 2017 at 4:51 PM
that is indeed true for me as well!
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February 2, 2017 at 5:05 PM
Sorry for the typo continuing from where I left
as he continues to be unapologetic & regretful for his abusive comments even once & keeps justifying his comments under the pretext of my comment being personal to him!!
I have never used abuse as my weapon to win in this game of one upmanship nor will in the future but responding the person in the same language can sometimes become the necessity to drive the point home & my comment in response to Master was exactly in that spirit rather than meaning it literally.
Diversity & inclusiveness are 2 of the key cornerstone to progress & growth & I’m a strong believer of it. SS is testimony to this axiom which has fans of different stars vying to prove the superiority of their favourites to other stars. And that is the beauty of this blog which gives space as much to dissenting voices as much as like-minded fans & I hope it to remain this way by giving this platform to each and every one however contrasting views & opinions they might espouse.
Thanks again every one for their love & support đ
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February 2, 2017 at 8:11 PM
Great to see you back Myselfaamir. Btw would have loved to read that comment and check the level of your immorality as never seen you getting riled up here..âŚ. was it deep Omkara type or mild phirangi banter.
Sit back and enjoy the ride because 2017 will unfold never seen before double dhamaka coming summer & Christmas. Critical acclaim and box-office combo ka naya tihaas racha jayega !
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February 2, 2017 at 6:55 PM
Glad to see you back…
Aside- Vakil ho kya? you present your case well, then do not stop presenting and repeating your arguments until the judge says- Bhai aa gayee baat samajh mein, ab rulayega kya !!!
LOL
Please don’t mind mat karna, it’s all in the Jolly LLB mood !!
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February 3, 2017 at 6:22 PM
Rocky Dada I’m not lawyer but learnt to defend & present cases with the experience I have gained from the SS & its members đ But thanks for being so kind.
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February 2, 2017 at 7:37 PM
ha! this looks like a resignation letter thanking everyone đ bhai be normal and have fun instead of getting too carried away with such senti stuff – this blog is to have fun and NOT for all this heavy-duty drama đ
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February 3, 2017 at 6:39 PM
It varies from person to person how he or she considers this space as for me SS is the only blog or website which I make it a point to visit at least once in a day & I’m very emotionally attached to it! So for you it might be just a fun thing but I value this space much more than just to have fun & that reflected in my write-ups subsequent to my “kaha-suni” with Master! And I thought my plea was not given the due it deserved despite my repeated attempts, so in the heat of the moment I took the decision to quit! But after so many moving messages from members, I felt the need to reciprocate my emotions for them, so I wrote “the senti resignation letter” kind of stuff to voice my feelings đđ
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February 2, 2017 at 7:39 PM
So itâs all done after all! Aamir Khanâs Dangal has practically broken all possible Bollywood records (barring one or two which pertained to the initial) and has now gone past the Rs. 385 crore mark. The fact that it is still collecting in the sixth week despite Raees and Kaabil playing in theatres is a testimony to the fact that the Aamir Khan starrer is still a choice for the audiences. Meanwhile, what has happened in the process is the gap that has been further widened when it comes to the next big grosser.
Here is how!
âBefore Dangal, the record for the highest grossing film was PK [2014] and that stood for a good two years. That too was an Aamir Khan starrer and had netted Rs. 340.8 crore. Now to think of it, this number couldnât even be touched by any superstar. Salman Khan came close to it with 2015 release Bajrangi Bhaijaan [Rs. 321 crore] but fell short. Later, even though his Sultan [2016] was magnificent in its initial run, eventually it too ran out of breathing space and closed at Rs. 301.5 crore. So as you can see, while Bajrangi Bhaijaan was close to Rs. 20 crore short, Sultan was almost Rs. 40 crore behind,â says a trade guru.
As for the other superstar Shah Rukh Khan, he is yet to enter the Rs. 300 Crore Club and the maximum distance he has travelled is Rs. 227 crore with Chennai Express. Now even Raees is far away from making it to this club, leave aside the Rs. 300 Crore Club and one still waits to see what âThe Ring/Rahnumaâ has in the offering.
âMeanwhile, Aamir Khan has raised the stake for the game,â the guru comments, âWhile the PK record itself was inaccessible, Aamir Khan has outdone himself with Dangal that has gone past the Rs. 385 crore mark. Now what does one do with this competition? Who will really break it? With which film? And by what margin? You need so much at hand in order to achieve such a milestone, be it fantastic content, star power, absolutely perfect release date, at least reasonably good music, a story that connects with the heartland of India as well as the urban centres, fantastic marketing, all available screens to your disposal, the works.â
Since the only man who has come closest to achieve great Box Office numbers so far is Salman Khan, all eyes are on whom to take up this challenge with his two releases in 2017.
âWill it be Tubelight or Tiger Zinda Hai? Well, which other film can we even bet on this year,â wonders an industry insider, âSalman and Kabir Khan have got it right twice over, be it Ek Tha Tiger or Bajrangi Bhaijaan. Latter in particular was a humane tale and this is what helped with a strong audience connect. One hopes that happens with Tubelight even though the only on-screen star here is Salman Khan with a heroine [Zhu Zhu] who is a Chinese. On the other hand Ali Abbas Zafar has given Sultan with Salman and he also has Katrina Kaif lending further star power. Moreover, there is a huge advantage of the sequel factor.â
Not to mention the holiday factor too. While Tubelight releases around the Eid holiday on June 23, and has a two week open period (before Munna Michael arrives on July 7), Tiger Zinda Hai has an even better release period. It hits the screens on December 22 and then has Christmas Day falling on Monday, hence giving it a four day weekend. Moreover, it has an astonishing one month open period with no release planned till January 26 when Sushant Singh Rajputâs Chandamama Door Ke hits the screens.
âThe stage is set for Salman Khan to do the honours,â the insider says, âOtherwise, it would be back to Aamir Khan to unleash something magical all over again on Diwali 2018 with Thugs of Hindostan. A Salman or a Shah Rukh definitely want to score really high by then because Aamir could well have started thinking of the Rs. 500 Crore Club with his Dhoom 3 director Vijay Krishna Acharya a.k.a. Victor and Amitabh Bachchan for Thugs of Hindostan. He is going to miss the Rs. 400 Crore Club by just a whisker with Dangal; he wonât allow that to happen with his historical affair and will go even bigger.â
Well, the ball is in Salman Khanâs court and he now needs to hit it really hard before Aamir comes back into the play!
– See more at: http://www.bollywoodhungama.com/news/features/salman-khan-set-target-rs-400-crore-aamir-khan-tubelight-tiger-zinda-hai/#sthash.ZTprpP1Z.dpuf
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February 2, 2017 at 7:41 PM
http://www.bollywoodhungama.com/news/features/check-amuls-hilarious-take-sanjay-leela-bhansali-padmavati-controversy/
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February 2, 2017 at 7:43 PM
Earlier we had reported that Shah Rukh Khan would be seen playing an important cameo in Salman Khanâs upcoming film Tubelight. Later we also brought you images of Shah Rukh Khan on sets of the film posing for the cameras. Well now we hear that SRK will in fact be seen playing the role of a magician in the film.
Though an official confirmation on the same is unavailable, our source informs us that it is a very unique character that Shah Rukh Khan is playing in the film. In fact we got some interesting scoop on SRKâs look in the film. From what we hear, Shah Rukh will be getting a temporary tattoo made on his face for his role of a magician. In fact, a meagre semblance of a tattoo can be seen over the actorâs right eye and on the cheek bone in the photographs that he had posed for earlier.
As for the film, Tubelight that is an Indo â Chinese film is directed by the Bajrangi Bhaijaan director Kabir Khan. Featuring a story set in the backdrop of the 1962 Sino-Indian War, Tubelight also stars Chinese actress Zhu Zhu alongside Salman Khan and is slated for release on June 25, 2017.
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February 2, 2017 at 8:50 PM
Good that Sanjana is back đ
By the way just curious maybe folks already know, but is Sanjana a girl or a guy?
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February 2, 2017 at 9:35 PM
Woman!
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February 3, 2017 at 6:42 PM
Ravi Bhai Aap to Sanjana ke bade fan lagte hain đ
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February 2, 2017 at 8:51 PM
Talking about DCH, I have seen that movie 3 times in cinema hall when it was released and multiple times on TV. The only movies which I have watched more in theatre are DDLJ (it was kinda craze back then), but never watched DDLJ much on TV and Maine Pyar Kiya (I was a kid then and whatever my siblings watched I used to watch).
Today came across a post in FB on 11 best moments of DCH and couldn’t stop smiling watching that video.
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February 2, 2017 at 9:08 PM
Great to have you guys back⌠Aamirsfan & SanjanaâŚ
Incidentally the next time you take off let me know. I’ll join you!
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February 2, 2017 at 11:55 PM
I was wondering when will finally a younger actor take over the mantle of top spot from senior actors. Aamir, Salman and SRK have pretty much ruled the BO in separate or overlapping times for over 2 decades. Other actors have come and gone. Some senior actors have been on the peripheral like Akki, Hrithik and Ajay but they haven’t threatened to be at top (not for any reasonable enough time at least). The so called new crop of actors who are doing well enough have been around for a while now but don’t seem to be really threatening the top 2-3 slot anytime soon. Ranbir was a hope but seems to be a hit and miss kind of a guy and I feel he is too urban for masses to connect with him. I don’t find the rest good enough yet. In fact I think most new actors are very urban, hence totally dependent on multiplexes and have limited BO power.
What do you guys think?
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February 3, 2017 at 12:46 AM
Ranbir Kapoor will surely be around in top 3 for next 5-10 years. I wont like to see Ranveer Singh there evenif he is delivering BO hits. Varun and Siddharth both have promising projects lined up and they both are sincere – so they should be there in top 3. Shahid is down and out and on the way like Jr. B. Arjun Kapoor does not have it in him neither Harshvardhan or anyone else. Sushant is just like Sharman – not a solo hero material although Dhoni worked but that was because of Dhoni.
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February 3, 2017 at 1:22 AM
If we have only above options then Khans can rule for another 5 yrs, until budhapa aa jaye aur sathiya jayein.
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February 3, 2017 at 2:21 AM
Ranveer i hate the most,he seems to be a total bully kind of guy.doesn’t even like to see him.
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February 3, 2017 at 2:31 AM
Ranveer actually seems to have a little dialogue delivery issue IMO. Whatever he speaks doesn’t sound clear or in a free flow or natural in a movie to me. Leaving how he is personally aside he is a doing good job with the tools he possesses. But he has knack of hamming.
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February 3, 2017 at 1:07 AM
Looking at all the BO figures floating around, it seems after extended week Raees is around 110-115 cr and Kaabil is around 75-80 cr.
Both may recover their distribution price by the end of their theatrical run. Whether they will be somewhat plus film or not, will depend on how the second weekend goes.
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February 3, 2017 at 1:23 AM
Phuski bombs!! đ
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February 3, 2017 at 3:37 AM
The producer totals for Kaabil and Raees are 90 cr and 122 cr. There is a 10 cr differential with BOI number for Raees and 20+ cr differential for Kaabil.
Whats the actual collections? Its Talaash – The answer lies within!
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February 3, 2017 at 8:06 AM
taran is huge srk fan and yet he stop tweeting,is he embarrassed by this all saga,komal naahta is same…since monday both films have tanked heavily …second week is just the waste week…
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February 3, 2017 at 1:51 AM
Male Star Ranking :
1. Aamir Khan – Dangal’s mega success gets him top slot
2. Salman Khan – His next release is coming in Eid which may bring him back to No 1 if that film is a Hit
3. SRK – He got a success with Raees that opened really well.
4. Akshay Kumar – Looking certain to get 4th Hit/superhit in a trot within 12 months
5. Hrithik – Is set to slide now and will be out from Top 5 by end of this year as Kaabil is barely a success and his next release is not likely to happen soon.
6. Ranbir
Female Star Ranking:
1. Alia Bhatt
2. Deepika
3. Katrina Kaif
4. Kangana
5. Shraddha Kapoor
6. Priyanka Chopra
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February 3, 2017 at 1:54 AM
Basis of female star ranking?
And Raees a success…really??? SRK has a very flexible benchmark. Lucky him. Life hasn’t been so kind to others including Salman and Aamir.
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February 3, 2017 at 1:56 AM
I mean professionally đ
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February 3, 2017 at 2:04 AM
Coolguy….things are changing so fast and rapidly for Raees that after the new BOI report, i cannot yet call it a success.
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February 3, 2017 at 2:17 AM
SRK recent movies don’t last beyond Sunday. HNY, Dilwale, Fan and now Raees!!!! Bad content…well may be. But tbh SRK was never a content man (CE had a bad content). The day he became too old and the mushy mushy romance combined with I am such a God that I keep everyone happy even when I am dying or someone I love is dying or someone I love is already engaged and sometimes even married formula became stale, he got exposed. The guy actually hasn’t grown as an actor since 1995. Never re-invented himself. The success and over-media hype he had probably made him feel he is perfect. Infact I think he was a better actor in 90s.
Now lets not compare him with Salman’s acting skills. Salman never relied on acting. But I still think Salman is better actor than he used to be until middle of last decade.
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February 3, 2017 at 1:58 AM
The female stars are relatively younger and Alia is a baby.
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February 3, 2017 at 2:05 AM
She can’t be a baby forever.. can she?
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February 3, 2017 at 2:25 AM
Alia by far is my current favourite. I’ll watch Badrinath Ki Dulhania just for her.
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February 3, 2017 at 6:50 PM
I find Kangana & Vidya as the best in terms of acting talent, then Alia as she is talented but less body of work than the above 2 I mentioned. I think Vidya is extremely underrated as she has proved her versatility in all kinds of roles ranging from comic to emotional with utmost sincerety.
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February 4, 2017 at 12:55 AM
I like Kangana and Vidya. If Kareena has this role in TOH, depending on what it is I think Vidya would fit the bill.
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February 4, 2017 at 2:03 AM
Has Kareena been finalized for TOH? I was hoping they will get a new face for this one.
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February 4, 2017 at 5:51 PM
I also would love to see Vidya with Aamir as they make a very good pair imo.
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February 7, 2017 at 6:22 PM
Would like to see Kangana with Aamir too after Vidya. Both are Aamir kind of actors with content being key
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February 7, 2017 at 11:07 PM
Vidya wants to work with Aamir.
http://m.timesofindia.com/entertainment/hindi/bollywood/news/vidya-balan-wants-to-work-with-aamir-khan/articleshow/57000015.cms
Dangal was an opportunity since her husband was one of the producer. Also she would have suited Sakshi’s role perfectly. Would have been some date issues
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February 3, 2017 at 1:57 AM
http://www.boxofficeindia.com/report-details.php?articleid=2683
Raees Has Reasonable Extended First Week
Raees was had a reasonable extended nine day first week of 111.75 crore nett but collections have down a lot from Monday onward and that is the problem with the film. The film has not been able to hold after a solid first five days. The film has managed to outpace the competition Kaabil easily but the lead was only by around 1 crore nett on Thursday which will mean the collections of both films will be similar in the second week. That is not really a concern as the film is already 45 crore nett ahead and the race is over but for any film dropping weekday collections is a concern as it means the film has not really worked. The drop in screens in second week is more for Raees than Kaabil with around 30-35% drop for the former and 25% drop for the latter but this is because Raees is coming off a higher number.
The film has done well in Mumbai with collections of of 35 crore nett in nine days. Actually the clash was all about Mumbai circuit as both films were always likely to be best in Mumbai as Raees is a Gujarat based film and Kaabil is a crime drama which have a market in Mumbai mainly and the lead is very comfortable for Raees with 35 crore against the 20 crore of Kaabil over nine days. The other circuits where it fared better were Nizam / Andhra, Mysore, TNK and West Bengal and here Shahrukh Khan films tend to do better anyway. The film has already nearly beaten the Dilwale number of Mumbai which was 37 crore nett as that film suffered due to the intolerance remarks in Gujarat and a strong Bajirao Mastani in Maharashtra.
The second week is going to be tough for Raees and its looking at a finish of around 130 crore nett or maybe little higher depending on where the second Friday lands.
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February 3, 2017 at 2:02 AM
130Cr nett will be a huge letdown for SRK now after solid first 5 days. It is as if two different movies released – one till Sunday and i thought 150cr is set and other from Monday which is now being predicted to close by 130 cr.
SRK on a downwards slide now. Media narrative doesn’t takes time to change as well. He has a big fan support base which will keep him relevant for more time than usual.
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February 3, 2017 at 2:02 AM
Great!! If not for SRK’s star power movie would have done 25 cr nett or so. That is the greatness of SRK. He takes subjects that are sure shot failures, produces them, spends good 2 years on them (knowing fully he doesn’t have enough years) and pulls those movies over the line by his raw star power. Absolute Genius!!
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February 3, 2017 at 3:35 AM
Yaa, Aamir shud try doing that sometimes..to get ppl talk about him more. Seems all these ATBBs are not working and SRK is hogging all the discussions still.. đ
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February 3, 2017 at 3:41 AM
It’s better to let the film talk then yourself and your fans. There is always lip service before a boxing match, stuff like I am the best / I’m gonna woop your arse etc…The loser either whines, accepts defeat or demands a rematch. The winner matches onto bigger and better things or gives the loser a rematch, usually to give him another beating.
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February 3, 2017 at 4:15 AM
But then why I see the opposite under every Raees post. Doesn’t seem like winner talking..or not talking!
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February 3, 2017 at 7:59 AM
We are just taking an opportunity to bash SRK up a bit. We spent 5 weeks of Dangal run worshipping Aamir. What else do we do, talk about him when other biggies have movie rekeases. In fact you brought up his name anyway, din’t you??
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February 3, 2017 at 8:10 AM
releases* typo!!
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February 3, 2017 at 2:28 AM
Any articles on Excel Entertainment continued failure? No I didn’t think so. All that shpeal before release has just got you back to square one. CONTENT.
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February 3, 2017 at 2:42 AM
Shocking,Rees is at 2.7m$ till wednesday in NA,wld hardly do 5m$ in NA.dangal did 12.5m$.
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February 3, 2017 at 2:46 AM
It’s pointless to keep posting Raees overseas comparing to Dangal. We know it won’t get there, can you try and draw a line under it?
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February 3, 2017 at 3:53 AM
You should start a portal to counter Boi propaganda.
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February 3, 2017 at 6:12 AM
To irk and irritate them, it should be called Dil Chahta Hai of India!
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February 3, 2017 at 7:56 AM
The Gulf total of Raees is bigger than NA/UK/Aus combined! It is a fact that SRK has a huge Pakistani fanbase and this result just highlights it. All these past 4-5 movies have been hugely shored up by his alternate offshore fanbase.
In NA, he started the 3M club back in the early 2000s. But he is stuck at that level since then.
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February 3, 2017 at 3:36 AM
Will Akshay Kumar equal Shah Rukh Khan’s record with Jolly LLB 2?
Akshay Kumar is gearing up for his first release of 2017, Jolly LLB 2. The actor who recently completed 26 years in the film industry has 6 films in the coveted Rs. 100 crore club with Rustom being the last entrant.
As his next film, Jolly LLB 2 is just a week away from its release, the trade has already started the prediction game with most betting it to be Akshay Kumar’s biggest hit till date surpassing Rowdy Rathore (134 crore).
The two theatrical trailers have received a good response from the audiences and the movie is expected to record a very good start at the ticket window on 10 February 2017. If the satire manages to live onto the hype, it would become the 7th Akshay Kumar film to do over Rs. 100 crore at the Box-Office thereby equalling Shah Rukh Khan’s record.
SRK too has seven films in the coveted club with Raees being the latest entrant.
HERE’S A LOOK AT ACTORS WITH MAXIMUM 100 CRORE FILMS:
Salman Khan: 10 films
Shah Rukh Khan: 7 films
Akshay Kumar: 6 films
Aamir Khan: 5 films
Ajay Devgn: 5 films
Hrithik Roshan: 3 films
Ranbir Kapoor: 2 films
Ranveer Singh: 2 films
Varun Dhawan: 1 film
Arjun Kapoor: 1 film
http://www.catchnews.com/bollywood-news/will-akshay-kumar-equal-shah-rukh-khan-s-record-with-jolly-llb-2-bollywood-latest-news-1486034426.html
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February 3, 2017 at 3:51 AM
Very convenient question and a very convenient answer.
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February 3, 2017 at 7:50 AM
Did Dhawan have a solo 100cr grosser, or are they double-counting Dilwale?
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February 3, 2017 at 8:00 AM
If Varun Dhawan is here for Dilwe then Jr Bachchan should be here as well….4 100 CR (BB, HNY, D3, HF3).
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February 3, 2017 at 8:28 AM
u all r forgetting ABCD2.
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February 3, 2017 at 4:42 AM
Sana Khaan to play Akshay Kumar’s girlfriend in Toilet: Ek Prem Katha?
Toilet: Ek Prem Katha is a satirical take on Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s project Swachh Bharat Abhiyan. The project aims at cleaning the streets and roads and the film will portray the loopholes of how it has been taken.
The film stars Akshay Kumar and Bhumi Pednekar in the lead roles. Now, for the role of Akshay’s girlfriend, the filmmaker Shree Narayan Singh has roped in Wajah Tum Ho actor Sana Khaan.
Shree Narayan Singh, who is directing the film, confirmed the news, according to TOI, âItâs a cameo extremely crucial to the plot. Sana shot her portions recently during a schedule. She will be seen in a completely desi avatar in the filmâ.
Khan will be seen as Kumarâs girlfriend in the film which also stars Bhumi Pedneka
A source close to the film production told a leading daily, “It’s a cameo extremely crucial to the plot. Sana shot her portions recently during a schedule. She will be seen in a completely desi avatar in the film.”
https://www.pinkvilla.com/entertainment/news/372018/sana-khaan-play-akshay-kumars-girlfriend-toilet-ek-prem-katha
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February 3, 2017 at 5:05 AM
I am quite excited for this movie even though it is quite a risky deal for Akshay. A movie which is a social satire would definitely be interesting to a few like me who cares for the cause but it has very limited audience. Moreover with its political alienation, not sure how it will be taken.
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February 3, 2017 at 8:59 AM
huge akshay fan here…rooting for him!
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February 3, 2017 at 6:53 PM
Add me in the list!
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February 3, 2017 at 7:01 AM
taran_adarsh @ DM FAV RT ? 1 hour ago
#Dangal [Week 6] Fri 28 lakhs, Sat 41 lakhs, Sun 50 lakhs, Mon 17 lakhs, Tue 15 lakhs, Wed 15 lakhs, Thu 13 lakhs. Total: âš 385.66 cr. ATBB.
Lol but he’s not giving numbers for Raees & Kaabil .
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February 3, 2017 at 7:44 AM
Even Taran has lost faith on producer totals of Kaabil and Raees. Has this ever happened before?
Dangal is now comfortably past 385 cr in India and over 30M (200 cr) in overseas. If they have second phase release, then the overseas number will go further.
No film is likely to get such numbers till Thugs of Hindostan, which will likely be the first 400 cr movie.
Btw, there are reports that Aamir will start shooting for Rakesh Sharma biopic after Thugs of Hindostan. What do you guyz think about that one?
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February 4, 2017 at 12:51 AM
I am surprised that there is no buzz here about the possibility of a Rakesh Sharma biopic. If they can get the special effects right, then this might turn out to be a rare space odyssey in Bollywood. And this is supposedly a Aamir production, so the dramatization and screenplay can be expected to be good.
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February 3, 2017 at 7:11 AM
The bench of Justice Ranjan Gogoi and Justice Ashok Bhushan asked the petitioner Fox Star Studios to approach the High Court and advance all its contentions before it. The bench asked the High Court to hear the matter on Monday â February 6 â allowing film producer Fox Star Studios to come before it on Tuesday â February 7.
The film is set for release on February 10.
âWe are keeping it pending,â the bench told senior counsel Kapil Sibal as he said that the film was cleared for release by the Central Board of Film Certification (CBFC) and under law the screening of the film before the panel comprising two lawyers and a doctor could not be done.
âGo and tell this to the High Court,â Justice Gogoi told Sibal. âWe will not say anything. We will keep it pending. Go to the High Court.â
As Sibal urged the bench to see the film, Justice Gogoi said, âWe will not see the film. We will tell you why we will not see the film. We donât have three hoursâ patience. Donât you think that three hours is too long.â
The Aurangabad bench of the Bombay High Court set up the committee to see the film after a Nanded lawyer, Ajaykumar Waghmare, told the court that the film was an attempt to portray the countryâs legal profession and the judicial system in a poor light.
It is âan attempt to portray the Indian legal profession and judicial system as a laughing stock to society at largeâ, Waghmare told the High Court.
The High Court directed for the review of the film by the panel on February 1 and set the next hearing on February 3.
http://www.koimoi.com/bollywood-news/sc-sends-fox-star-studios-back-to-hc-on-jolly-llb-2/
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February 3, 2017 at 8:23 AM
Why Pak govt allowed to release #Kaabil but not #Raees? Because Pak govt wants people to watch a better film instead Ghisapita masala film.
I agree that SRK was a super star but his attitude and thinking is of Kunal Khemu. This is why he is not a super star today. Purity is must.
If you have watched #Raees and you want ur money back from SRK then RT this. If you liked the film, then like it.
By GOD Ki Kasam SRK’s success party would have come superhit in media if he could have called it #Raees flop party Instead of success party.
After flop result of #Raees, SRK has gone out of 3 Khans league n joined Ajay, Akshay, Ranbir, Hrithik n Ranveer singh. Fair enough!
Last 4 films Of SRK- #HappyNewYear- Flop, #Dilwale- Flop, #Fan- Disaster, #Raees- Flop coz it will do lifetime max 150Cr like Dilwale. If Salman khan is the hero in #Raees then 100% it will do 200+Cr business means definitely SRK is not in the league of 3Khans anymore.
Hey SRK fans if SRK is in league of Ajay-Akshay then #Raees is hit n if he is 3rd Khan then #Raees is super flop. Now decide what tag u want
Hey dear SRK fans, you RT this tweet to accept that now SRK is in the league of Ajay n Akshay not 3 Khans n I will declare #Raees super hit.
https://www.pinkvilla.com/entertainment/discussion/372026/dark-side-moon-vikram-bhatt-slams-krk-srk
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February 3, 2017 at 11:00 AM
no…that is not what Vikram is saying…you need to post the article properly Bro.
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February 3, 2017 at 12:37 PM
thats why the link was pasted dude..if you do not under stand then click the link…SIMPLE DUDE
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February 3, 2017 at 12:41 PM
you did selective cut and paste no? Learn from Sanjana how to cut and paste articles đ
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February 3, 2017 at 12:46 PM
Di,
no ned for your tuting or recommendation ,if you cannot be bothered to see the whole article then bore someone else..no one is forcing you..
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February 3, 2017 at 3:50 PM
no worries..we all have mud on our faces from time to time đ
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February 3, 2017 at 8:32 AM
Forbes on Aamir and SRK:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/suparnadutt/2017/01/23/why-dangal-star-aamir-khan-is-the-new-king-of-bollywood/#7dbc28d87763
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February 3, 2017 at 9:14 AM
The last time SRK had the biggest movie of the year was 2007. How can this article not even mention Salman? Since 2008, its been pretty much Aamir vs Salman show. I mean just take the last two years. SRK had the 5th biggest hit in 2015 and the 9th biggest hit in 2016. The ‘baadshah’ lost his throne a long long time ago.
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February 3, 2017 at 1:09 PM
The strange ways Bollywood meets real life in India
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-38754768
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February 3, 2017 at 1:23 PM
This is for Master from my side to break the ice:
Iâve Been A Star Long Enough. Dignity Is More Important Than Hashtags.âThe Badshah of Bollywood on how he cherishes his father’s reading of poetry, his stardom, art, et al in an interesting conversation…PRACHI PINGLAY-PLUMBER INTERVIEWS SHAH RUKH KHAN
âWoh aaye ghar mein hamare, khuda ki kudrat hai/Kabhi hum unko kabhi apne ghar ko dekhte hainâŚ.â If Shahrukh Khan were to ever drop in at someoneâs house, this might be the perfect couplet to describe that moment. But itâs he, the Badshah of Bollywood, who has a backstory for this Ghalib gem. Nothing around himâthe feverish promotional melee, hopping from one vanity van to the other to meet co-actors, producers et al, delayed lunches, the disarmingly innocent AbRam who demands his dadâs time over âboring interviewsââis conducive to ruminating about Âpoetry. But SRK shares an anecdote about how this couplet was Âinspired by a kleptomaniac friend of Ghalibâs and then goes on to the symbolic importance of the âsaaqiâ figure in shayari. He cherishes his fatherâs reading of poetry, his words of explanation, and promises that none of the chaos will distract him from the conversation at hand, and it would be an interesting one too. Not vainly spoken, as Prachi Pinglay-Plumber discovers. Excerpts:
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Youâve done different things from very early on in your carÂeerâplaying the bad guy, or the vulnerable romantic, when others were being action heroes; IPL; making the first successful sports film on real events. What prompts you to make these risky decisions?
I think all of us, whatever business we are in, we are all a beat off. Unfortunately, what happens is when you start getting into a system, you start getting on beat and start following the beatâŚwhich is also alright because you have enough talent to pull that off too sometimes. But Iâve been fortunate enoughâby nature, not by design. Iâve always been far removed from how films work, Âbecause I came from outside. I go by a different connotation. No one told me how one is supposed to behave within the film indÂustry. Very often, more decisions of mine still remain off beat than on. Sometimes I adhere to it. I say okay, letâs just do it. But I do it with the same aplomb and happiness. To me it doesnât seem like a risk.
When I started out, I didnât know how to be a movie starâthere was no uniformity given to me, that you are supposed to behave like this, talk like this, go for those parties, have a manager. Or that weâd like you to go in the action category, so you should dress like this, show your musclesâŚ. I think I was so unwise that I did those films! I wouldnât have done them if I was wiser or on beat. But those unwise things worked. People tend to think they all worked but thatâs not trueâAsoka didnât work, Paheli didnât work, Phir Bhi Dil Hai Hindustani didnât work, and it killed me emotionally. Offbeatness does mess up also but when you get it right, you kind of become unique. I still donât think of it as a risk.
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I remember while making Ra.One, my whole team was skeptical. It was the most expensive film at the time. The sampling and research people came and told me the audience for sci-fi movies is 0.1 or 0.001 per cent, where action films have 23 per cent, romantic films have 16 per cent! In 10 categories, it was the tenth, they saidâŚeveryone told me this, you know? But I said, if I donât, who will?
âOften, my decisions still Âremain more off beat than on. Sometimes I adhere to it. I say okay, letâs just do it. But I do it with the same aplomb and happiness.â
On IPL, for three years everybody kicked me for it, even Outlook. People said I donât know how to run cricket or business, but I got it right. We won it twice. Recently we were named the most consistent brand. I didnât tweet it. I donât want to harp on it or gloat. I donât adhere to that old maxim: thereâs nothing like being âahead of your timeââthereâs your time or not your time. Maybe you havenât got it right. Maybe you need to work harder.
You seem to be returning to darker roles with Fan, Raees? Javed Akhtar once said sketching out villains was particularly fun because they exude a certain freedom. Do you find them more interesting than the good guys?
I come from theatreâŚHamlet, Macbeth, Richard, these are the characters you remember. You wonât remember most of the sweet characters: they are nice, thatâs about it. You remember Romeo and Juliet because of the dark endâpoison le liya, nakli tha, khud ko maar diya, uth gayi, yeh kya ho gaya, oh my God! (speaks feverishly), a comedy of errors but so creepy, scary. You remember those things. The thunderclouds, the rain, the lightning are always more attractive than the daffodils and sunshine. Something as simple as Humpty Dumpty is more fun because they could not put them back together.
Within the parameters of commercial cinema, I donât think I have done all that yet. It requires a certain amount of obsessive passion to be that person. It requires the same passion to be Raj and Rahul too. To be devta-like or dariÂNDA-like requires sacrificeâŚ. I can understand the obsession in both places, I get attracted to it. I can play a Devdas, whoâs completely obsessive and weird, but I get it. I donât need to be like them but I get that space.
Raees is more real. Journalists have researched how bootlegging is done in Gujarat and elsewhere. Itâs not like Happy New Year⌠upar se aaya, gutter ke raaste nikla, andar chala gaya. Some of these moments, the modality of selling illegal liquor etc., theyâre very interesting because itâs actually happened somewhere. For example, they would sell it at vegetable stores, it was injected in tomatoes. Men started telling wives they would buy the vegetables, the women were happy, it was so wonderfully in the public space that nobody knew about it! There are lots of moments like this in the film. Small, reality-based thingsâŚwhere I hide the money, the booze. Itâs very intriguing for me, Iâm not from that world, neither are most of us. Normally I play urban characters. This was kind of rural, small town. Not completely rustic like Chahat or Paheli. The real space attracted me.
Dear Zindagi, in which you played a psychologist, highlighted the need for emotional support. Do you think it has become more acceptable? How do you cope with your upheavals?
Each one to his own, yaar. Iâm inexpressive, closeted, cloistered, very awkward sharing even with the closest of my people. There were times, for not being able to talk to anyone, Iâd talk to my pet dogâŚbecause I had it somewhere on my mind that she wonât understand, so itâs alright. I talk to my little kids knowing they wonât get most of it. That too, maybe once in four years! Iâm not at all someone who can do it. I get awkward even if you ask me to my face if something has made me sad. I donât want to share it. But I know friends, actors and actresses, who sometimes call me and talk to me. âShah, I want to talk to you yaar.â Iâm happy talking to them. Iâm a good person to talk to because I donât judge you. Maybe thatâs why I donât talk, because Iâm worried people will judge me. If you came to me and told me something radically weird, Iâm okay with it. Whatever is taboo. I donât discuss it with anyone. Iâm very private about your privacy. Nothing can shock me. If you told me you were an alien, itâs alright. I donât have to tell four people about it.
In DZ, Gauri Shinde, Alia Bhatt, Kausar MunirâŚI donât think they were propagating going to a counsellor or notâjust that there is a need in every man and womanâs life to have someone to talk to. I believed in it because you (the audience) believed in it. I donât need to believe in everything, just to make you Âbelieve. I believe you! So this could be true. If you need someone to talk with, Dr Jehangir Khan can be that. Personally it doesnât work for me, but I know it works for others, a lot of people I know go to counsellors. Itâs a good thing if it helps. Whatever helps you get over depression.
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How do you deal with it?
I just do it alone. I vent it out in films. I have no idea. I leave a part of me in a film. I could be doing a comedy right now and feeling extremely depressed but I leave a part of me there. I just overwork myself out of depression.
Dear Zindagi
Karan Joharâs autobiography is out. Naseeruddin Shah also wrote his. When do we see yours?
âExcept for four or five films, Iâve not done films where the girl is not playing the prime role. I believe it makes the story more interesting. It makes life more interesting.â
Mine is writtenâTwenty Years of a Decade. Bhatt saab had convinced me to write it. I finished it, but such beautiful things keep happening so I have to keep writing! Itâs a very funny ÂautobiographyâŚI mean I like to think so. I write when Iâm sad and I write quite funny. Itâs very therapeutic, but I havenât been sad for years (laughsâŚ) which is a good thing. Letâs see. The deal with my publisher was, you will not tell me when to publish it. Iâll keep writing and add lots of chapters. I edit myself. I want to finish it. It had finished at Aryanâs birth. Then Suhana came, then AbRamâŚso I have to add a few chapters.
You have been vocal about womenâs rights. How do you ensure, as a parent, that prejudices, stereotypes donât creep into your upbringing of a son and a daughter?
However much I want to avoid the fact that Iâm a movie star, part of it does come back. My wife and me come from a simple background. At home, am completely untouched, I donât bring back any part of this world, which is larger than life. My kids see me on hoardings or read that I got the Chubbs fellowship, but when theyâre sitting at home with me, Iâm a basic, sensitive guy. I donât shout, I donât misbehave. I do nothing that can ever be taken as trappings of a stereotypeâlike âmy father does this, so itâs okay for a guy to do thisâ. No impression is formed in my house. Except they sense that I work hard. Iâve never spoken to my wife in a way that can be questionedâŚIâve known her for 33 years. Or the way I speak to the people who work at home, actresses and others who work with me. Even with AbRam…heâs very young, if he says something I just put in a little word, like I did tell him just now to come and be nice to you girls.
My children have grown to be extra sensitive, sometimes theyâve even questioned my actionsâan outburst or a little Âanger with a journalist or someone. They say, âyou only tell us this, naâŚleave it, naâ. So thereâs a certain maturity. Maybe they realise I exist in a fragile world so they need to be stronger and keep everything together and itâs happened very naturally. I havenât seen my son or daughter saying anything wrong and Iâm very proud of them for that.
A lot is said about strong women characters in your films, the message that gives. You really seem to like thatâŚ.
âMeryl Streep can say what she has to or wants to. Even Trump can. If you donât have the platform, you canât ask why that speech doesnât Âhappen here.â
Except for four or five films maybe, Iâve not done films where the girl is not playing the prime role. I remember this very famous filmmaker said to me, why would you do this film (referring to DDLJ), the film belongs to Kajol. Or even Paheli, Kuch Kuch Hota Hai. In Chennai Express, the woman is so strong and the guy is such a lallu. I get attracted to films like that. I really believe it makes the story more interesting. It makes life more interesting if you have stronger roles for women in real life too. It just does. There is more girth, more rotundity. Even when a lady politician talks, itâs somehow better. My lifeâs highest fantasy is that Iâm sitting in an open car, pardon me but with a cigarette, laid-back, and a lady is drivingâŚnot from a service point of view, donât get me wrong. But a lady is in the driverâs seat. When I was in LA for the Oscars for Paheli, a limousine pulled up and I think Matt Damon came out and the chauffeur was this lady. Amazing high. My next film with Imtiaz, it has a wonderful role for Anushka. And Iâm not being patronising. Even Don for that matter; Roma is a stunning characterâwe couldnât even kill her in the end, ânahin maarte yaar, isko rehne dete hain yaar, wapas layengeââall the girls are so strong in Don, even the molls, LaraâŚeven in Raees, the mother, the wife played by Mahira.
Hark back to Aziz Mirzaâs Phir Bhi Dil Hai HindustaniâŚrather prophetic in retrospect. How do you perceive the media today? Has it gone out of control?
A little out of control, yes. Thereâs nascent stardom. The Âmedia has its competitors in people now. Suddenly so many people have points of views online. Earlier you were the only guys who brought news, now everyone has an opinion. So stardom has become very important in media. Instead of sticking to your ground of being well-informed and analytical, thereâs a rushâŚof half-hearted, hashtagged information. The other day, a lady was saying on a channel, âthis is my hashtagâ. I felt like, you made the hashtag lady, so what? They might feel, you canât beat them so join themâbut no, you donât need to join them. I can form my opinion without yours bearing in on me. I fully respect the issues you have, I simply do not speak about it or not speak in a tone I donât believe in, just because you need more voices.
From time immemorial, when stories were written, editors said, âlisten, letâs humanise it, letâs put a face thereâ, like the National Geographic girl with light eyes. Anything thatâs humÂanised is attractive, identifiable. Now presenters feel they are (those) human beings. But you just have to present, you canât force your opinion down my throat. Sensationalism is wrong, this is not even that. And the trolls are so hyper. Such wonderful journalists I know, one can respect them despite contrary views. If Salma Sultan would meet me for tea and gave me news, Iâll still take it! But it will become okay. It will curve eventually.
I also hear, âwhy canât the star say so, why canât youââŚ. But you have to create an atmoÂsphere for me to speak and I have to create an atmosphere too. We all are media, we need to do it together. We canât be on different pitches and have the same song. It wonât be the same song.
Without going into the Âdetails, do you think controversiesâlike on Ae Dil Hai Muskhil, My Name is Khan et alâchange the larger narrative in society, making people more cautious?
I donât think it will change the society. As an entertainer, I know my responsibility. You could be a serious-minded person and think a guy who does Chammak Challo canât ever be taken seriously, but having been 25 years at this job I owe three things to people. One, to make a good film. The second part is through youâthis interview is not just to market myself or my filmâthrough you I want tell people that this is one commodity where money wonât be returned if you donât like itâthe only good/service in the world that has no moneyback guarantee. Everything else, clothes, food, you can send it back. I need to inform them, so Iâm guilt-free. Third, I owe it to my audience that they go and like a film, just the way Iâd like to go and watch a film with ease, pleasure, comfort, relaxation. You donât go for entertainment with stress.
Dilwale Dulhania ÂLe Jayenge
I used to get very disturbed with all these small issues. (âWhy is this happening, yaar!â) Very few of us would make a film to incite violence or hurt your sensibilities. Just now the censor board said, âcut this lineâ. I hadnât realised it could hurt someone. And itâs alright, I can change it. Itâs no big deal, Iâm okay. Itâs a commercial film, how seriously can you take it? The word is not cautious, itâs âa little more carefulâ. What Iâm selling as entertainment may not be so entertaining to someone.
It happened to me a few years ago, when I met a set of hair stylists who felt âbarberâ was a derogatory word. I was really vehement. I said I wonât change it; âbarberâ is a degree in AustraliaâŚ. Then they sat next to me and watched the film. It was derogatory to their mind. I met 45 of them from all over India. âShahrukh bhaiya aisa bolte hai, chidaate haiâ (they tease us). So I removed the word. It would still be the same movie about a hairstylist. Iâm sorry, I canât explain to them that barber wasnât meant in a derogatory way. I donât know their backstory. Iâm a little more careful now.
See, my job doesnât end at making the film. It ends with getting the mother, daughter, father, brother, girlfriend, boyfriend coming and seeing it. I read these things and I tell my team, âcan we just control it because it goes out of handââŚ. Iâm not taking a stand because I canât. I donât like to clarify or write blogs on the subject. If itâs hurting people, letâs bypass it. Letâs do it easily. Iâm not bowing down to anyone. Thatâs what people may feel but Iâm not giving in to fear. This is just part of my job now, the world has changed. Thereâs a whole populist belief about what can work and cannot work and you have to adhere to it to get your job done, and my job is to touch your life for 2.5 hours. For that I need to do a few things and I will do them. I donât think thereâs any lack of dignity of labour in it or any lack of dignity.
Maybe 7-8 years ago I could come on a high horse and say âbut Iâm just a filmmakerââbut no, Iâm a filmmaker of responsibility. Parents meet me and say I want my son to be like you. I get such unconditional love and I got to look after that. Yes Iâm a little more careful, little more aware, little more patient. And a little more easy, rather than getting all worked up.
Don
What did you make of the powerful speech by Meryl Streep or even Leonardo DiCaprio about climate change, that platform, the impact it hadâŚ.
I think itâs an amazing platform, but platforms are made by peopleâin this case, the foreign press. You need to present my view as it is, not as part of the agenda of your write-up. You can ask me, âShahrukh, I believe in this, do you?â I say no. You can even present your point of view, which disagrees with mine. But letâs be fair, honest, letâs be brave enough. Itâs alright if you say I donât want your interview because youâre not going with the agenda of my story, which is okay. But you canât take what I say and make it part of your agenda. Thatâs whatâs not fair at all. Keep it in the context. Journalists cannot have an agenda unless itâs an editorÂial. I have an agenda to sell my film and blatantly soâso I come and dance on the Kapil Sharma show. Itâs not downgrading or Âupgrading in any way. Itâs my job.
When I have a platform like thatâŚ. With all due respect to whatâs happening there, or not happening, whatever we think of itâŚthereâs an advancement in media there, which we havenât got. Like they are much more advanced in filmsâtechnologically. And no, we are wrong in saying our films are better. If we were, weâd be making world-class cinema. We do need to learn from better things. Because of having passed these stages of stardom and having that platform, Meryl Streep can say what she has to or wants to. She or anyone else knows they can. Even Trump can. If you donât have the platform, you canât ask why that speech doesnât happen here.
Here, things are at a very nascent stage. Even I used to be jumpy. Iâve said things like âawards which donât give me awards donât deserve meâ. Now I think there are many years to come, I still have my talent, craft. Let me assume youâre right and Iâm not good enough. But I can be. I will be. Itâs about how dignified you are. Long back I remember visiting Mr Amitabh Bachchan at his ABCL office. People were screaming âShahrukh, Shahrukh!â and I feltâŚyes, Iâve arrived! Banging on my car and shouting. But when he started driving his car, they just parted way for him. It struck me then. They give you that space when youâre a true star. Not asking people âdo you love meâ and getting them to shout âyesâ. People will say that on their own. I used to do that, now I donât. Dignity is far more important than provocative hashtags, alliterations. Iâve been a star long enough, I donât want to be louder, we can agree to disagree.
http://www.outlookindia.com/magazine/story/ive-been-a-star-long-enough-dignity-is-more-important-than-hashtags/298399
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February 3, 2017 at 1:35 PM
The Dial Of The Sun King
In the Bolly-games of Khandom, Raees could be Shahrukhâs next big chance. What if it fails to come good?GIRIDHAR JHATHE
âApna time shuru,â says the Raees poster, in a street-savvy, oracular tone. But the real arbiter these days is the weekend box-office collections, and itâs a destiny being written as you read this. So the question is open for the time-being: will this much-Âawaited gangsta flick renew his lease on the throne, or will it mark the beginning of the end of his Âprolonged reign at the top? Ever since he hit a purple patch early in his careerâwith Darr (1993), Baazigar (1993) and, above all, Dilwale Dulhania Le Jayenge (1995)âthere has been no looking back for the 51-year-old Shahrukh Khan. But as Raees, directed by the National Award-winning filmmaker Rahul Dholakia, hits the screen worldwide this week, thereâs a real tinge of nervousness.
And with good reason. There are two sensitive points on the graph on which comparisons will be made. One, SRKâs Ârecent films have not done business befitting his stature. Last year, Dear ÂZindagi (Rs 68 crore) and Fan (Rs 85 crore) failed to make it to the coveted Rs 100-crore club. And two, the Âphenomenal success of Salman Khanâs Sultan and Aamir Khanâs Dangal means King Khan is expected to match up and deliver a Rs 300-crore blockbuster. Tellingly enough, for SRK, âRs 300 croreâ is a peak that Âremains Âunconquered. And now, he has to aim for it against the current, with another A-lister from B-town, Hrithik Roshan, poised to split the votes with his home production Kaabil, releasing the same day.
Thatâs why Bollywood is keeping its fingers crossed, waiting with bated breath for the outcome of the film where it matters the most: the cash counters. Expectations are always spectacularly high from a new SRK film anyway. But never in recent years has any movie of his generated as much interest about its fate as Raees. The film comes with favourable pre-release reports, but what if it falls short of the mark?
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âItâs extremely important for a big star to deliver hit movies consistently. In Shahrukhâs case, this has not been the case in Ârecent times,â noted film trade analyst Komal Nahta tells ÂOutlook. âHe has to deliver a film that becomes a hit big enough to keep everybody associated with it happyâeven the distributors and exhibitors, not merely the producers.â Nahta says âs box-office showing is all the more important because both Salman and Aamir have had two films each that earned over Rs 300 crore in the past couple of years. âDangal is, in fact, getting closer to the Rs 400-crore mark now.â
Shahrukhâs trajectory has followed a different tangent of late. Dear Zindagi and Fan were both touted as experimental projects, devoid of the trademark SRK tropes, but their modest haul denÂted his reputation. And it became tough to rationalise against the runaway hits of the other two Khans. Dangal, released around Christmas, continues to have a roaring run, inching its way to the Rs 400-crore mark in the domestic circuit to emerge as the Âhighest-ever grosser in the history of tinsel town.
Nor was Sultan an exception in Salmanâs oeuvre. It only Âunderlined his undisputed box-office heft in the wake of ÂBajrangi ÂBhaijan (Rs 320.34 crore). Aamirâs PK, too, had done Rs 339.5 crore. In contrast, no SRK film has crossed the Rs 250-crore barrier yet, his Chennai Express (2013) being his best with a net collection of Rs 226.7 crore.
Never in recent years has any SRK movie generated as much interest about its fate as Raees, which comes in the wake of the huge success of Sultan and Dangal.
Could this be âhis timeâ finally? Tough to call, because the simultaneous release of any two star-driven movies inevitably divides the collections and harms the commercial prospects of both. âThe clash between Raees and Kaabil is interesting,â says Nahta. âBoth Shahrukh and Hrithik are looking for a big hit after failures. Hrithikâs Mohenjo Daro (2016) may have bombed, but Kaabil has got good pre-release reports.â
Film writer Rajiv Vijayakar thinks they would have done well to avert a direct faceoff. âItâs not only about SRK and Hrithik either. Kaabil director Sanjay Guptaâs last two movies have been flops too, while Dholakia is yet to deliver a commercially successful film.â But he feels hits or flops wonât matter much for a star of SRKâs luminance. âIf Shahrukh needs a hit at the moment after Fan and Dilwale, he needs it for nobody else but himself,â he says. âHeâs among the top six stars whose stature is not going to be Âaffected by hits and flops. Had failure affected them, Ajay Devgnâs career would have been finished by now. A hit is always good for any star, including Shahrukh. All he needs to do is select his films carefully.â
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Itâs also not fair to read the success of Raees against Dangal and Sultan, Vijayakar feels. âDuring Amitabh Bachchanâs era, so many other heroes, from Dharmendra and Sanjiv Kumar to Vinod Khanna and Rishi Kapoor, coexisted without affecting each otherâs box-office standing.â Many in the industry think Raees, Shahrukhâs first hardcore commercial film since Dilwale (2015), is his best bet for that elusive Rs 300-crore mark.
Shahrukh, along with Aamir and Salman, has been part of the triptych that has ruled Bollywood in the post-Bachchan era. And it was Shahrukh who took the lead with hits like DDLJ, Dil Toh Pagal Hai (1997), Kuch Kuch Hota Hai (1998), Devdas (2002), Kal Ho Naa Ho (2003) and many more. Itâs only in the past five years or so that the Kingâs throne appeared to wobble because of the Âindifferent performance of movies such as Ra.One, Happy New Year and Dilwale. Last year, even Akshay Kumar delivered Rs 100-crore hits (Airlift/Rs 129 crore, Rustom/Rs 127.42 crore and Houseful 3/Rs 107.7 crore) in quick succession. But SRK didnât touch even that markâthe low threshold of success for any movie starring a big star these days.
It was actually Aamir who started the Rs 100-crore trend with Ghajini in 2008. Since then, he has scored 200-plus four timesâbesides Dangal and PK, his Dhoom 3 (2013) and 3 Idiots (2009) collected Rs 280.25 crore and Rs 202 crore respectively. Salman had Kick (Rs 233 crore in 2012) and Prem Ratan Dhan Payo (Rs 207.4 crore, 2016) before Sultan and Bajrangi Bhaijaan in the elite double century club. And his Ek Tha Tiger (Rs 198 crore) fell short by only Rs 2 crore.
Salman, in fact, emerges as the most dependable hit-maker among the trio. He has as many as 10 movies in the total list of 49 films that have collected over Rs 100 crore at the domestic box office so far. ÂBesides Dabangg (Rs 145 crore, 2010) and Dabangg 2 (Rs 158 crore, 2012), he had Bodyguard (Rs 142 crore, 2011), Ready (Rs 120 crore, 2011) and Jai Ho (Rs 111 crore, 2014). Of course, Shahrukh has six films in that listâHappy New Year, Chennai Express, Dilwale, Ra.One, Jab Tak Hai Jaan and Don 2, all between 2011 and 2015. But the sum total of the Âmoney collected by these movies (Rs 921.35 crore) falls far short of the Rs 1,326.75 crore earned by five movies of Aamir (Dangal, PK, Dhoom 3, 3 Idiots and Ghazni) on the same list.
All the same, SRK remains a big draw with a massive and varied fan baseâand not just in India or among NRIs, as his peculiarly soft/hard persona enjoys a unique niche among European audiences too. That kind of genuine crossover appÂeal isnât something Aamir or Salman can really boast of. But trade Âexperts believe he has not drawn enough on the many-sided potential innate to him, or eked out a filmography that Âexploited the many shades of his Âpersona. Unlike Aamirâand even ÂSalman to some extentâhe has stayed put in his comfort zone too long, according to them. Ideally, he should have Âtaken a leaf out of Aamirâs book, who was the first among the trio to realise that it was the script, and not star Âpower, that could Âreally work at the box office.
Quite early in his career, Aamir is said to have even declined to work in a movie that his father, filmmaker Tahir Hussain, wanted to direct after Tum Mere Ho (1990) without seeing its script. ÂLater, he also desisted from working in cousin Mansoor Khanâs Josh (2000) because he did not wish to play another lover boyâs role (eventually essayed by a long-forgotten Chandrachur Singh in the film) and was keen on the part offered to Shahrukh in the film. That Mansoor was the director of his launch vehicle, Qayamat Se Qayamat Tak (1988), apparently made no difference to him.
Not only that, the Dangal star has gone absolutely against the norm in another very interesting way: he has studiously Âavoided working a second time with many directors who gave him hit films. The list includes Ram Gopal Verma (Rangeela/1995), John Matthew Matthen (Sarfarsoh/1999), Rakesh Omprakash Mehra (Rang De Basanti/2006) and A.R. Murugadoss (Ghajini), to name a few. He did repeat Raj Kumar Hirani with PK (after 3 Idiots) and that too was only after he liked its script.
Hrithik Roshanâs Kaabil, Âreleasing on the same day, is poised to split the votes with Raees, Shahrukhâs first Âhardcore commercial film after Dilwale (2015).
After a string of hit-and-run monsters like Ready, in recent years even Salman has consciously tried to go for interesting scripts: Bajrangi Bhaijan and Sultan came out of that search. SRK, however, has had no such strategy in the selection of his projects. Over the years, he did try to work with accomplished directors. So there have been Mani Ratnam (Dil se/1998), Aziz Mirza (Phir Bhi Dil Hai Hindustani/2000), Santosh Sivan (Asoka/2001), Gowariker (Swades/2004), Amol Palekar (Paheli/2005) and Priyadarshan (Billo/2009). But the commercÂial failure of these collaborations ÂappÂÂÂarently forced him to stay back in the Aditya Chopra-Karan Johar camp which kept offering him their brand of bubble-gum cinema.
In between, an occasional Chak De! India (2007) brought a long-overdue glimpse of what could have been. Normally, SRK has stayed with a deliberate over-Âthe-topness that bridged the genre gap between action-Âcomedies like Badshah and the grandiloquent Don, and worked equally well in both. Raees is an Âunderworld flick too, but one backed by research and grounded in near-Âreal events. And in Dholakia, one has a Âdirector who surÂely can tell a story, as his small-budget Parzania (2005) showed. But right now, as much as the filmâs cinematic merit, everyoneâs got their eyes on the number of voters he pulls in.
http://www.outlookindia.com/magazine/story/the-dial-of-the-sun-king/298400
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February 3, 2017 at 1:54 PM
The Khanate Without End
A journey extraordinaire. Twenty-five years on, Shahrukh Khan stays at the top effortlessly, retaining an insatiable hunger for excellence in his craft.
PRACHI PINGLAY-PLUMBER
Aag puurii kahaa. Na bujhii hai abhii
Diidaa-e-tar mein tishnagii hai abhii
(Who says the embers burn not/Thereâs thirst left
yet in these moist eyes)
âMidahtul Akhtar
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The best tributes to a superstar are perhaps those that were never heard much. Paradoxically for a kind of human figure that looms everywhere for millions of peopleâin remembered scenes, on billboards, in an abstracted sort of public consciousnessâthese may be spoken in intimate spaces, to friends or family, perhaps even to themselves. No one will know, for instance, what endearments to SRK may have been uttered by the wife and daughter of Farid Khan Sherani, the man who lost his life in the melee at Baroda railway station. He had taken his family, fans of Shahrukh Khan, to see the star as he passed by on August Kranti Express in a promotional rail yatra. Whatever they were, those words would have joined innumerable others, offered in joy and rapture, to an actor whoâs now touching an incredible quarter-century at the top.
An unusual tribute to Shahrukh was once offered by a middle-aged German lady outside a film festival in Europe. âWe love himâ, she said, because âwe have had enoughâ of the standard male prototypeâthe tall, macho man, strong and silent, the medieval gallant. In Shahrukh, on the contrary, they saw a kind of neurosis and vulnerability. It is he who perhaps needs to be protected. Scan his films over the last 25 years, and it rings true. SRKâs is a persona composed of more complex notes than that of the average, monochrome Bollywood heroâquite outside the question of whether his filmography has entirely harnessed it. He has enough strings to his bow to attract an arthouse director, or a wide-eyed NRI kidâŚor a sedate European. In their time, Raj Kapoor and Amitabh Bachchan had that crossover appealâbut they got their Russia and Egypt, one suspects, by just being the arch representatives of Hindi cinema. (And Rajnikanth got his Japanese legions by approximating to the dark, flamboyant comic-hero.) SRK, on the other hand, seems to have a kind of cosmopolitan tinge that could genuinely speak to everyone.
Mostly, it was delivered to us with that deliberate over-the-topness. But the quiet moments have a way of creating their own space too. In Swades, as a NASA scientist returning to his village, Shahrukhâs character, seated in a crowded train, buys water from a boy on a platform. The boy, running with the train to sell water for 25 paise per glass, triggers a transformation in the scientist. Intense, but understated. One of those moments that turned the 2004 film from âcommercialâ to âcritically acclaimedâ. It was perhaps bettered with some of those wordless glances in Chak De (2007), but otherwise it remained a minor stream in the SRK school of acting.
Swades came after Kal Ho Na Ho, Main Hoon Na and Veer Zaraâthe known âRaj-ÂRahulâ territory for SRK. Without over-Âanalysing his choicesâbecause the freedom to make them rests with the one making themâhe did seem to step out of his comfort zone every now and then, only to go back, and then dart out again, a cautious guerilla. Paheli, then the swash-and-burn of Don, then the remarkably controlled Chak DeâŚ.
METAMORPHOSIS
Shahrukh began his career with TV serials in the late 1980sÂâFauji being an early hit.
âShahrukh would do three shifts a day (on the sets of Raju Ban Gaya). Heâd do 20 rehearsals, retakes till that scene sparkled.
Juhi Chawla, Actress
The journey for the 51-year-old Khan started with the aptly-titÂled Deewana. Heâs visibly tired, yes, but as passionate about work and cinemaâif not more, if that was at all possible. Raees, direcÂted by Rahul Dholakia, has set off some nice social media frenzyâhelped along by talk of âresearchedâ facts about bootlegging in 1980s Gujarat, denials about any connection to real-life don Abdul Latif, and other political pressure-points. It comes after Dear Zindagi, in which he played a counsellor to Alia Bhatt, and Fan in which he essayed both a film star and his innocent-turned-evil fan. Is this yet another experimental phase?
âI think itâs better to go wrong doing the new than go right in doing the done. I really believe that,â Shahrukh tells Outlook (see interview). âMany times Iâm blamed for doing the same. I donât get that but I accept it. And I donât do different for the sake of doing different. I do it because itâs important, it feels good and itâs high time. It does work out eventually.â With the VFX-heavy superhero flick Ra.One, for example, he did take a leap of faith factoring in the lossesââbecause if I donât, who will?â
In these 25 years, he has bought a bungalow on Bandstand, Bandra, set up Red Chillies Entertainment, hosted TV shows, bought a cricket team in the Indian Premier League, has a following of 23 million on Twitter, has two honorary doctorates, has been named a Chubbs Fellow at Yale University, and has had three children with Gauri Khan, his companion for three decades. Flops and controversies have stalked him on this journey but the dimpled starâs aura hasnât ebbed.
But after all these years, is he a conformist or not so much? âHeâs doing films which are different now. Not to forget, he started out with Mani Kaul and Ketan Mehta,â says Anupama Chopra, film critic and author of King of Bollywood. âThe films that made him a superstar are the YRF, Karan Johar films about affluent people living abroad but he has had his foraysâŚ.â Any statement about his oeuvre has to be a qualified one.
My Name Is Khan (2010) went on to add glitter to the star.
âHe writes minimally, and with such depth and simplicity. I urge him to publish about his journey so far and not wait any longer.â
Mahesh Bhatt, Filmmaker
Posterity has conferred on his blink-and-miss role in In Which Annie Gives it Those Ones a jokey relevance. But his early wsorkâthe serials he did before his motherâs death in 1991, the early heroâgave notice of one on the verge of something big, partly becÂause of his genre of looks, partly because of his strange eneÂrgy. It seemed, over the years, that he had internalised a lot from the past, Dilip Kumar, Rajesh Khanna, Amitabh. But his acting persona was entirely of his own makingâoscillating between the comedic and the noirish, both deliberately overblown, and the sun-kissed boy right out of Riverdale High.
First blood was drawn by the anti-hero films, Baazigar and Darr, which SRK still credits to lack of choice. âShahrukh was an outsider, what he has had to do is innovation. Itâs well-known that no one was giving him the sweet boy roles. He took the villainous roles rejected by others. But they workedâŚbecause there was a certain passion. He was all heart,â says filmmaker Imtiaz Ali, who has SRK with Anushka Sharma for his next, a love story, yes, but a little âdifferentâ.
SRKâs first âRajâ may have come in Aziz Mirzaâs Raju Ban Gaya Gentleman, but it wasnât until DDLJ that he became the romÂantic hero that fans drool over and critics love to hate. The forgettable Trimurti, Ram Jaane and Chaahat apart, he teamed up with Abbas-Mustan, Yash Chopra, Karan Johar and Mani Ratnam to set the box office ringing. DDLJ continues hold on to its matinee show at Maratha Mandir even nowâcreating its own legend. A quick glance also throws up a quirky Maya Memsaab, and associations with Mani Kaul, Ketan Mehta, Kundan Shah et alâall genres. Every few years he returned to Aziz MirzaâYes Boss, Phir Bhi Dil Hai Hindustani, all with Juhi ChaÂwla, co-owner in his Kolkata Knight Riders team.
âI had not seen those serials when I first him on the sets of Raju Ban Gaya,â Juhi Chawla tells Outlook, reminiscing. âI was working with Azizji for the first time, they had already worked togetÂher. I thought of it as a sweet love story. Shahrukh was extremely hard-working. Heâd do 20 rehearsals, retakes till that one scene sparkled. Heâd do three shifts a dayâŚI was doing one. He wrote scenes together with Azizji. We clicked together. We had great times, but in our heart of hearts we were simple people. We wanted to work and do something nice and we had Azizji, who spoke of the common man, his aspirations. It was very endearing.â
Juhi was also the leading lady in Darr, the object of Shahrukhâs obsessive stalker with the infamous kkkkkkiran stammer. This turn with YRF resulted in a long, happy association, full of the feted hits that exuded the glossy air of post-reforms India and brought in NRI audiences. Aziz Mirza, who says he no longer watches films, says the world is all about instant gratification now. âHeâs a good boy, intelligent, good background. Also very aware, always understood value systems. He has had to move with the times. Maybe something more relevant is in the pipeline,â Mirza says.
Mahesh Bhatt, the maverick filmmaker whose daughter Alia recently had SRK in a supporting role, has known him for many years. It was on his urging that Khan decided to pen his yet-to-be-completed autobiography, Twenty Years in a Decade. Bhatt says, âHeâs a national treasure. A self-made man who touched dizzying heights. Ultimately we are the stories we are shaped by. I felt he has a story. We know his professional world through filmmakersâlarger than life and all that. But in his autobiography he gives you access to the inner sanctum of his heart. I had got a glimpse of this in the â90s, sensed the depth, narrative flowing like a stream in him.â Khan is waiting to add more chapters (see interview).
âStars also get trapped in their image and what people or industry expects of them. Itâs a plastic world, you know,â says Kundan Shah, who made Kabhi Haan Kabhi Na with Shahrukh. It was in fact his first film but did not find distributors for a long timeâuntil Shahrukh himself stepped in. He loved the film so much that he bought rights to the film a few years ago. But by then, whether by choice or notâtrapped he was. The open arms, sweet smile, hamming with tearful eyes, getting beaten up before screaming in extreme rage, trapped in all that.
There were comparisons with Dilip Kumar and Bachchan (with whom there were rumours of differences)âthe three posed together for a Filmfare cover in 2013. Not to mention the other two KhansâSalman and Amir. Their films, their personal equations, the great friendships and greater falling-outs. In between, there were odditiesâAsoka, and much later Shimit Aminâs Chak DeÂ. Then Farhan Akhtarâs delicious outing, the Don remakeâanother anti-hero, complete with guns and sexy women. But he only plays at macho, almost jokily. In his movies, the heroineâs name rolls before his in credits. There were also controversies: on the Chaiyya Chaiyya lyrics, on the word âbarberâ, Manoj Kumar taking umbrage at his portrayal in Om Shanti Om.
Things started to get really worrying when Karan Joharâs My Name is Khan met with violent political protests about SRKâs positive statements about Pakistani cricket playersâ the avoidably gooey, over-the-top KJo signature ensures that controversy is what the film will finally be remembered for. But SRK has had to pay a price for being one of the most articulate and vocal among stars. And perhaps he has learnt his lessons the hard way.
âWe live in unforgiving times,â says Bhatt. âAn icon like him has so much riding on his shoulders. He doesnât have the luxury to speak his worldview. Itâs good to use tact in these times when you are walking in a field of mines and silly to become a sitting duck for somebody. Thereâs a certain amount of caution, itâs a reflection of the times we live in. He knows he is a solitary animal and is out there on his own without any political clout. Heâs worldly-wise now but the whispers in his heart can be heard loud and clear by those who choose to tune into his art.â In his keynote address at Yale, SRK even described himself (and anyone creative) as a funaÂmbulist, a tightrope walker.
Juhi wants him to âlook after his healthâ, but that tightrope must be walked because the hunger is still insatiable. Anupama believes the power and influence that comes with his territory can do wonders for the industry, if he wishes. âThe three Khans are institutions by themselves. When they push the envelope, the envelopes move. I wish he should just go wild,â she says. âI know he believes his best is yet to come,â says Imtiaz Ali. The final word to Bhatt: âI told Alia that Dear Zindagi works because of that man. His energy, his large heartedness made the film sparkle. You can sense his aloneness, not loneliness. He has a light of his own. Like a beast in the jungle, a lion or tiger, alone and complete. I feel he will polevault out of that straitjacketed space.â
http://www.outlookindia.com/magazine/story/the-khanate-without-end/298398
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February 3, 2017 at 2:08 PM
Myselfaamir, I’ve pulled up those comments from spam.. if you have a number of very long articles to post just put up the link and part of the piece.
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February 3, 2017 at 2:24 PM
There are two different commentators đ Aamirsfan and Myselfaamir.
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February 3, 2017 at 2:38 PM
sorry.. made the correction.. hard to keep up with the Aamir fans!
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February 3, 2017 at 6:05 PM
But Marcus has a point as Shahrukh’s last 3, 4, 5 or more movies have underperformed or been outright failures depending on the sources one trusts in comparison to Akshay whose last 3 movies have been big hits & have made money for every one involved in the business! And their ROI with respect to their budgets has also been also profitable to the makers in absolute numbers! And on top of that he is churning 3 to 4 movies a year which makes it more commendable as people don’t wait for his movies as much as say Aamir, then Shahrukh & then Salman as their releases are lesser than Akshay which gives people wait more for a Khan’s movie/s due to their lesser frequency than Akshay where they know that if they miss Jolly LLB 2, they would have Akshay releases in next few months! So keeping that in mind, it becomes imperative for Khans to come up with comparatively bigger openers & bigger grossers than Akshay to stay ahead of him. But 140, 68, 85, 140 grossers from Shahrukh’s last releases are not suggesting the gulf between him & Akshay as big or even if any at all projected by the trade & media! If Aamir is coming after 2 years in TOH & delivers just 150 or 200 Crores grosser, then Salman would be undoubtedly No. 1 as his releases are more frequent than Aamir & yet that is not affecting his grossing capability!
So in my view Akshay is at 3rd spot ahead of Shahrukh as he has been more consistent despite more releases than him & neither Shahrukh has delivered a mega grosser lately to remain at 3rd place. Akshay’s highest grosser is RR at 132 but it’s not the case that he is coming up with 70 or 80 Crore grossers whereas Shahrukh has been delivering huge grossers in the vicinity of 200 Crores with his releases, if that were the case, then Akshay at 4th would have made sense with such huge gap between his & Shahrukh’s movies! But with 2 grossers in almost 130 range & 1 at around 110, I would have him ahead of Shahrukh as Raees is a huge let down for Shahrukh & it needed 175 or more to make Shahrukh stable at 3rd place but with just 135 Crores, Akshay moves ahead of Shahrukh on the strength of sheer volume & rational budgeting of his movies ensuing in genuine & clean hits.
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February 3, 2017 at 7:13 PM
strongly considering changing my ID to avoid the confusion lol…but my ID has been “aamirsfan” ever since planet bollywood/naachgaana days….but yes this blog does have a lot of Aamir fans now…it wasn’t always like this here!
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February 3, 2017 at 8:01 PM
Aamir’s fans are mostly subtle but lately I can not say the same. I see same level of passion as exhibited by fans of other stars.
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February 3, 2017 at 9:55 PM
there was once a time where I was pretty damn passionate about Aamir and his BO positioning…that was a decade or so ago tho. Now I just let the box office numbers of his films do the talking…
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February 3, 2017 at 10:12 PM
Aamirsfan Don’t change your ID as it doesn’t matter to me one bit when I’m referred to as your username most of the times by Satyam as both have Aamir in it đ And on top of that Shakespeare’s famous quote “What’s in a name?” So don’t worry about such trivial things & keep visiting.
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February 3, 2017 at 6:35 PM
I was one of the ‘instigators’ of whatever happened between Master and Myselfaamir. I was taken-aback by Master’s outburst calling me not dumb, but ‘dumber [which means, I had been making dumber comments previously as well, when it comes to SRK.] In reply to another comment of mine, Z had called me dumb, by taking one sentence completely out of context. It was my mistake that I attributed the ‘Muslimness’ factor being harped on to both of them. I was on the not-so-smart-phone and couldn’t even properly search for all comments but when I did I realized my error and immediately apologized to Master for mixing-up.
Anyway, good that it’s over. Thanks Myselfaamir for supporting me – though don’t know whatever traversed after 4 pm Wednesday due to personal reasons since I have barely checked the blog after that.
I too might come here very infrequently now, but not because of one rude response or anything, but just because I have some other stuff to attend to.
I will however, as I mentioned, ‘politely’ disagree with both Master and Z on their takes; with Master since I didn’t find this film as superior — be it even the 2nd ‘grim’ half [& God knows I like serious, grimy films]; with ‘Z’ on the religious angle being a hold-back for some — you know who — folks.
Anything anybody said is not a Trump executive order. It can be taken back on this blog.
Nobody please leave; God has anyway planned our last day. Why make oneself sound so great and resign from a blog? And a very good blog at that?
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February 3, 2017 at 7:04 PM
An Jo you were not”the instigator” in my case as I just referred to you in my comment only to point out Master’s previous such comment terming you dumber before he posted that abusive comment in response to my innocuous comment. But let bygones be bygones đ
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February 3, 2017 at 7:56 PM
We need the reviews!
Good luck with whatever you are doing. Hope it is not to do with any of the executive orders or things around it.
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February 3, 2017 at 9:15 PM
An Jo – if u were called dumber with all the wonderful reviews and write-ups u’ve been posting – then I self-proclaim myself as a dumberrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr đ ignore all those things and pl continue sharing the gems u’ve always done
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February 3, 2017 at 9:46 PM
he has called a whole lot of people dumb including…doesn’t matter. It is prolly something he himself thinks of himself; more of Freudian slip of sorts. You are one of the few people I hold in gr8 esteem AJ and love your reviews.
P.S. whatever you are doing avoid travelling abroad đ
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February 3, 2017 at 9:58 PM
Thanks Myselfaamir, Raju, Di, Munna. Yes of course the Am-exit is on my mind and has resulted in topsy-turviness of my priorities in life. But I am avoiding traveling. Some other stuff going on too.
No hard-feelings toward Master too.
In the mean-time, enjoy the SHAHENSHAH’s percentage..
http://www.rediff.com/movies/report/srk-big-b-akshay-vote-for-your-favourite-don/20170203.htm
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February 4, 2017 at 12:46 AM
As per early estimates from BollyArena, both Raees and Kaabil made 3 cr only on second friday.
Both movies will barely recover their price, dont think either of them can be called a success, despite the early success parties!
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February 4, 2017 at 1:09 AM
The sites are confused.com on Kaabil and Raees now.
http://www.addatoday.com/2017/02/kaabil-10th-day-2nd-friday-box-office.html?m=1
http://www.addatoday.com/2017/02/raees-10th-day-friday-box-office.html?m=1
It’s very much possible that FilmKraft’s dishonest reporting has provoked Red Chillies into this game to portray a strong leading position. Both are heading for HIT, lol. Hit means nothing today, even TV channels advertise upcoming movies as blockbusters when they were washouts.
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February 4, 2017 at 1:12 AM
official nos of Kaabil are over 6 crs I think…which means it has jumped from the Friday đ Kaabil might now touch 200 crs..
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February 4, 2017 at 1:14 AM
Oh just saw even Raees figures are around 6.6 crs…
Actuals for both IMO are around 2.75 and 3.75…
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February 4, 2017 at 1:15 AM
Official Kaabil collections are more than 200% the actual collections…This is historic manipulation…
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February 4, 2017 at 1:25 AM
They are both manipulating. One doing more than other is silly way to target only that one party. If RCE can do this and get away with it why trust any number?
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February 4, 2017 at 1:30 AM
Exhibitors are quoting a 5.75 cr no for Raees….There are literally three numbers now…BOI, Exhibitor and Producer…Its a mess honestly…The overall manipulation in Raees is around 6-7 crs as per exhibitors…The issue here is that within trade BOI is very credible and BOI numbers have been lower for Raees on last 3-4 days..So most sites are coming with an in between number…and having an ‘our estimate’ column…Adda today, Indicine, Bollyarena all have done that…And their numbers are more exhibitors numbers…
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February 4, 2017 at 1:36 AM
Basically both are cheats one more than other. One is seen as ‘acceptable’, the other as totally corrupt.
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February 4, 2017 at 1:31 AM
Rakesh Roshan’s figures have touched 100 cr on second friday. Now he can run media propaganda of 100 cr ‘hit’ to build a perception of success and hope to attract a few more people to theaters over the weekend. It is all very convenient.
I agree that Red Chillies are trying to keep up with Roshan’s numbers and have started over-reporting to win the perception game.
Anyways, I doubt if Kaabil has done anything more than 80 cr at this point (10 days) and Raees 115 cr or so.
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February 4, 2017 at 1:40 AM
Roshan’s no. is 97 cr …
http://www.bollywoodhungama.com/news/box-office-special-features/box-office-kaabil-collects-rs-6-40-crores-day-10-reaches-rs-96-95-crores/
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February 4, 2017 at 1:46 AM
Didn’t this dude use to comment on NG? Joginder? What a fall from grace! To actually believe propaganda is one thing, to promote it is just as corrupt.
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February 4, 2017 at 1:46 AM
BOI figures for Kaabil and Raees are 2.5 and 2.75 respectively. More than 100% manipulation by both makers. I dont know why everybody is questioning Kaabil collections only, Raees makers have also made big strides in manipulation. This is really a sad state of affairs, where one party is trying to outdo other in manipulation. It seems to be a clash of ego, more about perception than actual collection
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February 4, 2017 at 1:48 AM
Agree Raj on your manipulation comments.
Let me extend. RCE were presenting numbers quickly over holidays as they knew they were beating Kaabil but since then they’ve deliberately waited for FKP to release weekday figures just so they can be ahead when they release their own. FKP were dishonest from off, since long time. RCE are converts.
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February 4, 2017 at 2:55 AM
Exactly till weekend collections of Raees were fine, so there was no need to go for higher numbers, as weekdays collections have not been commensurate to their expectation they started manipulation, and they need to compete with Roshans too, otherwise RCE may loose the perception game.
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February 4, 2017 at 3:43 AM
How can 2nd Friday > Thursday for both films ? Rakesh Roshan will probably say they added 200 more screens on Friday for kaabil lol
Girish Johar (@girishjohar) 20 mins ago
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Mess at the Box Office has started… both sides …worse is yet to come !!!!
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February 4, 2017 at 1:57 AM
Yes agreed. Iti s a relief that Aamir productions dont get their hands dirty with such manipulation.
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February 4, 2017 at 2:16 AM
All this is because of reaching that 100 crore club. Somehow everyone wants to cross it by hook or crook. Just like fudging marksheets. They say everything is fair in love and war and let us include boxoffice and awards too.
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February 4, 2017 at 2:49 AM
True, both needs to be pulled up…This is very poor from both houses…As always I will continue to go with BOI..
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February 4, 2017 at 2:21 AM
Arnie wants to go full Terminator on Trump and âsmash his face into a tableâ
hollywood Updated: Feb 04, 2017 11:04 IST
HT Correspondent
HT Correspondent
Hindustan Times
Arnold Schwarzenegger
Hasta la vista, baby.
The war of words between the former California governor Arnold Schwarzenegger and President Donald Trump is heating up – not over policy, but TV ratings.
On Thursday, Trump converted a speech at the National Prayer Breakfast into a discussion about The Apprentice, a reality show he used to host.
âWe had tremendous success on The Apprentice, and when I ran for president, I had to leave the show,â Trump said. âThatâs when I knew for sure I was doing it. And they hired a big, big movie star, Arnold Schwarzenegger, to take my place, and we know how that turned out. The ratings went right down the tubes, itâs been a total disaster, and (creator Mark Burnett) will never, ever bet against Trump again,â he said.
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Arnoldâs spokesperson had a ready comeback:ââArnold is praying that President Trump can start improving his own approval ratings, which were the worst in history for an incoming president, by taking his job seriously and working inclusively,â the statement to ABC News read.
Schwarzenegger, 70, then released a video in response. âHey Donald,â he said. âI have a great idea. Why donât we switch jobs: You take over TV, because youâre such an expert in ratings, and I take over your job. Then people can finally sleep comfortably again.â
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February 4, 2017 at 2:22 AM
http://www.hindustantimes.com/hollywood/arnie-wants-to-go-full-terminator-on-trump-and-smash-his-face-into-a-table/story-91s7h3FBYcDFExnpCBlJjL.html
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February 4, 2017 at 3:23 AM
Dangal Continues Its Run Into Week Seven
Saturday 04 February 2017 12.30 IST
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Dangal (Hindi) is still continuing at cinemas in its seventh week with over 373 crore nett in six weeks under its belt already. The film has broken records in most of the circuits. The ones which won’t make an all time record are Mumbai, Bihar, Assam and Odisha while West Bengal is looking a photo finish. In CP Berar it has made a record in NETT collections but its distributor share is still below Bajrangi Bhaijaan. Bihar is the worst performing circuit as it was unable to beat the other big Aamir Khan starrers PK and Dhoom 3. The film will close with an all India distributor share of 180 crore apprx. The business of Dangal (Hindi) till date is as follows.
First Week – 1,92,38,00,000
Second Week – 1,11,56,00,000
Third Week – 44,02,00,000
Fourth Week – 14,69,00,000
Fifth Week – 8,62,00,000
Sixth Week – 1,79,00,000
Seventh Week – 13,00,000 apprx (One Day)
GRAND TOTAL – 3,73,19,00,000 apprx
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February 4, 2017 at 3:24 AM
Raees Second Friday Business
Saturday 04 February 2017 12.00 IST
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Raees dropped again on the second Friday with collections around 2.75 crore nett. The total collections of the film are now around 114.50 crore nett. The collections are still a little ahead of Kaabil but now both films are doing similar business The collections dropped around 35% from the previous day as there was a big reduction screens but some of that was compensated by the higher weekend ticket rates. The second weekend may go to around 10 crore nett or a little higher but that is not good for a big film like Raees. The business of Raees till date is as follows.
First Week – 1,11,75,00,000
Second Friday – 2,75,00,000
TOTAL – 1,14,50,00,000
The lifetime business of the film will not stay below Dilwale (2015) as that film did manage to sustain a little better possibly as it was Xmas period as the public response to that film was not really better than Dilwale.
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February 4, 2017 at 3:25 AM
Kaabil Second Friday Business
Saturday 04 February 2017 11.30 IST
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Kaabil had a low second Friday with collections of 2.50 crore nett which has taken the total business to 69.50 crore nett apprx. The film dropped around 15-20% from the previous day which is not bad but the collections are too low and to get any decent final total the film had to show growth on its second Friday. The film has managed to get the closest it has ever been to Raees but the collections are still a little less. There should be good growth on the second Saturday and maybe it could get even closer to Raees but that remains to be only target for the film as its box office fate is sealed. Even if the film does start to collect more than Raees on a daily business it will still struggle to make any major dent in the lead of Raees The business of Kaabil till date is as follows.
First Week – 67,00,00,000
Second Friday – 2,50,00,000
TOTAL – 69,50,00,000
The business of the film is poor across all circuits of India though it has managed to go ahead of Raees in places like Rajasthan, CI and East Punjab. The weekend of the film could go to around 10 crore nett and or even a little higher but a 20 crore nett second week is impossible and that is where the film problem is as a big film that does not open well has to atleast get 20 crore nett in week two.
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February 4, 2017 at 3:34 AM
SRK said he feels that they have made “a universally correct movie”. “We held focus groups, before the film’s release and according to their response, a few scenes and a song have been cut from the movie.”
Ritesh Sidhwani joked that Mahira thought we will cross the 100 crore mark on the very first day. “But we weren’t making a film with Salman Khan or Aamir Khan” he added.
Recounting her arrival in Mumbai, for the shoot, Mahira joked, “When I reached the Mumbai Airport, I thought I’d be greeted by Shah Rukh running towards me, with his arms open. But that didn’t happen.” She also added that she is unaware of the film’s collections.
Shah Rukh was asked how does he feel that so many actresses like Deepika Padukone, Anushka Sharma and now Mahira Khan have debuted opposite him, and have gone on to become major stars of our times, “Deepika was already working in South. Anushka was also into modelling, and Mahira was acting before as well. All three of them were working before debuting in a film with me.”
SRK, on the other hand, found the song to be a tough one, “It was a tough song. I’ve never done garba in my 25 years in the film industry. I had to work hard for it. I am more of a performer, whereas Nawazuddin and Mahira are great actors. Picking up the beats of a song comes naturally to them.”
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/hindi/bollywood/news/mahira-khan-finally-jumps-on-to-the-raees-promotions-bandwagon-with-shah-rukh-khan-and-nawazuddin-siddiqui/articleshow/56960581.cms
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February 4, 2017 at 3:59 AM
I think reacting and writing is my therapy..some thoughts on RAEES..
— SPOILERS, MILD, or SPICY depending on your mood–
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February 4, 2017 at 5:28 AM
Very insightful review. Just like Dangal review.
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February 4, 2017 at 4:32 AM
http://www.indicine.com/movies/bollywood/kaabil-raees-inflated-figures-estimates/
Lol at the defense of Excel and RCE having to inflate. These sites are now having to revisit their history. They started off as producers hub, when they had estimated figures. Now they have to turn to their own figures because of this clash.
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February 4, 2017 at 6:59 AM
Indicine’s own estimates seem reasonable enough. Its better they stick to their own tracking.
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February 4, 2017 at 7:52 AM
And another similar report from bollyarena:
https://www.bollyarena.net/raees-vs-kaabil-a-clash-of-egos/
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February 4, 2017 at 8:07 AM
Playground stuff. Hidden behind this are real people making real losses. Quite a joke!
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February 4, 2017 at 9:42 AM
This is childish!!! Easier to accept the truth and focus and work hard towards next project then to live a lie… isn’t it?? I mean both are rich with lot of fame and success. Shit happens!! Accept it and move on.
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February 4, 2017 at 2:55 PM
Their numbers are not too different from BOI…
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February 4, 2017 at 4:15 PM
Raees yes, not Kaabil. It’s quite possible they have lower numbers for HR films and Rr over-inflates for whatever reasons.
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February 4, 2017 at 4:42 AM
i don’t know why BOI is saying dangal wldn’t cross PK in mumbai as it is just 1 cr short in mumbai after week5.i am attaching their circuit collns.after week5,dangal has already done 1.92 cr and wld atleast do upto 3.25 to 3.5 cr.usually,mumbai collns 30-35% of all ind. collns unless a movie is very mumbai cenred,so,dangal shld easily add atleast 1 cr. in mumbai after week5.
http://www.boxofficeindia.com/report-details.php?articleid=2688
http://www.boxofficeindia.com/net_box_office.php?cityName=mumbai
http://www.boxofficeindia.com/movie.php?movieid=3443
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February 4, 2017 at 5:15 AM
i donât know why BOI is saying dangal wldnât cross PK in mumbai as it is just 1 cr short in mumbai after week5.i am attaching their circuit collns.after week5,dangal has already done 1.92 cr and wld atleast do upto 3.25 to 3.5 cr.usually,mumbai collns 30-35% of all ind. collns unless a movie is very mumbai cenred,so,dangal shld easily add atleast 1 cr. in mumbai after week5.
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February 4, 2017 at 5:38 AM
Megastar Amitabh Bachchan says he always wanted to work with Sanjay Leela Bhansali and when the filmmaker offered him a role in his directorial venture ‘Black’ he did not charge a single penny for it.
Amitabh Bachchan calls ‘Sairat’ a Marathi wonder
In a special blog dedicated to ‘Black’, which clocks twelve years today, the 74-year-old actor said just being a part of such a beautiful project was more than enough for him. “I had just wanted to work with Sanjay, after seeing all his other works he had done… And when the opportunity came it was quite overwhelming. I did not take any salary for the film… Just being a part of such an enterprise, was sufficient fees !” Bachchan wrote.
The film based on the real life story of Helen Keller, starred Rani Mukerji as a blind and deaf woman to whom Big B played the teacher. Bachchan said the best moment of his life came when his idol veteran actor Dililp Kumar attended the premier of the film and praised his performance. “At the premiere when we all saw the film, there was just those tears of joy within me, and of course the fact of having Dilip Saheb in the audience was a child hood dream coming true.”
“When the film got over, he stood outside the hall, held my hands and just looked into my eyes .. It was, what I could have allowed, to last for a lifetime!” he wrote. The actor concluded the post saying each and every detail Bhansali put in making of the film is still very much there in his heart. “12 years of its release…And each and every detail that accompanied it has been engraved on stone for me.”
For his role in the film Bachchan went on to receive his second National Film Award for best actor. The movie also won National award in best feature film in Hindi category.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/hindi/bollywood/news/amitabh-bachchan-i-did-not-take-any-salary-for-black/articleshow/56969608.cms
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February 4, 2017 at 11:03 AM
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February 4, 2017 at 11:31 AM
Cringe
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February 4, 2017 at 11:15 AM
PKTALLI maine kuch comment kiya hai uppar dangal UK collns par.
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February 4, 2017 at 11:19 AM
aamirsaurabh i read that , i am not sure about the UK collections so will wait for it to get updated .
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February 4, 2017 at 11:23 AM
what do u think abt dangal breaking PK record in mumbai.why is BOI denying it straight away.it is just 1 cr nett short after 5 weeks and should add 3.5 cr after that.it wld surely do 1 out of 3.5cr in mumbai circuit.
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February 4, 2017 at 12:01 PM
https://movie.douban.com/subject/26387939/
Dangal’s unprecedented craze in china.PK is in danger.
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February 4, 2017 at 12:07 PM
dangal china and japan release is being planned.i think they cld release the movie in china only after 4 months of it’s domestic release.china release could happen by may/jun.
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February 4, 2017 at 12:10 PM
Satyam should open a “All Things DANGAL” post just for you đ
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February 4, 2017 at 12:51 PM
Aamirsaurabh.. consolidate your comments.. you put up too many brief ones. And hey there’s no need to sell a 380 crore movie (or whatever) so much at this point! But seriously don’t keep putting up too many brief comments let alone on the same topic. Also anything with two links automatically goes into moderation (to answer your earlier question).
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February 4, 2017 at 2:07 PM
I am enjoying Aamirsaurabh. Never seen a crazy Aamir fan getting on nerves of others so much. Its always the other way around. Let Aamir fans enjoy. Pleaae don’t stop him.
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February 4, 2017 at 12:13 PM
LOLLLLLLLLLLL.
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February 4, 2017 at 12:55 PM
Given Shah Rukhâs career crossroads, itâs going to be fascinating to watch where he goes from here.
Is it just me, or has Shah Rukh Khan become the most interesting actor around? This isnât about his performing skills. This isnât about his box-office clout, healthy enough for a star, yet nowhere near that of the other two Khans of his generation, Salman and Aamir. This is about where the actor is at this point, at some kind of crossroads. Heâs too old to pull off the demented lover and Raj-Rahul routines that made him a superstar â even the mature variants of Raj and Rahul havenât quite done the trick, as the modest returns of Jab Tak Hai Jaan and Dilwale prove. But he hasnât figured out what the alternative is. Heâs trying to reinvent himself. But as what? He doesnât seem to know. We donât either. And thatâs⌠interesting.
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February 4, 2017 at 1:10 PM
srk can get into politics,surely superstars decling years ahead of him usually takes those path or try a ” Villain ” opposite akki,ranveer or even salman ,why not …
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February 4, 2017 at 2:51 PM
SRK is also getting extremely insecure, annoyed, irritated about this confused state he finds himself in. Karan Johar recently revealed that he backed away from the friendship once he felt Karan was getting friendlier with the other Khans and doing films without him. That reveals a side to SRK I did not know. He also seems to have some resentment against Ranveen Singh who was cast in Befikre by Adi.
Other stars also have their favourite filmmakers but no one is so possessive or dependent. Of course if you leave out the likes of Ajay Devgan who feels that way about Rohit Shetty.
SRK has been struggling since a long time now. He just comes across as a bit bitter and egoistical. Suddenly he is talking about how big a star he is, how he had big hits no one else had earlier. This is clearly the talk of a star who fears his biggest years are behind him. There is a shadow of Rajesh Khanna, though SRK’s stardom has lasted much much longer. But there is the same feeling of disbelief and deluded appearance on saw in Khanna. he chided Kareena a few yeas ago because she called Aamir the God of acting.
He takes jibes at anyone who he thinks is loyal to other stars.
This is a timely piece by Rangan. It is indeed interesting to see where his career goes.
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February 4, 2017 at 4:16 PM
It is obvious that he cares about loyalty, because the only actress he got very close to was Priyanka Chopra. And one of the reasons was because she was his unabashed fan, who didn’t appear eager to cozy up to the other Khans. SRK clearly liked that about her, and even got involved with her somewhat.
A person who ardently supports and promotes someone because they are faithful and loyal to him is correspondingly going to detach himself and get angry if that person doesn’t show the same level of devotion. That is what is happening with Adi and Karan.
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February 4, 2017 at 4:19 PM
SRK would be perfect for a sitcom like Everyone Loves Raymond.
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February 4, 2017 at 4:27 PM
Cat On a Hot Tin Roof is better
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February 4, 2017 at 4:40 PM
The plot of that film seems to have so many bad situations for the lead.
In 1958 that film made 7mm USD in US. So would be record breaking business for SRK today.
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February 4, 2017 at 4:53 PM
sitcom like Everybody loves Raymond ? I beg your pardon. Please don’t demean any Hollywood actors by comparing them to anything on the indian scene. It all seems effortless to watch but try and have a dekho of behind the scene and prep work.
They don’t multitask and SRK and their ilk cannot even achieve even 30% of that humor and even if the script permits, will ruin such well written parts with their self-centerdness
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February 4, 2017 at 8:24 PM
It’s meant to be irony
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February 4, 2017 at 4:57 PM
All these HR and SRK need to get off their pill and once again level up and they have enough talent to reestablish themselves for Hindi audience which has very low standards anyway.
http://www.freepressjournal.in/entertainment/10-bollywood-names-linked-with-drugs/877424
“….Gauri Khan, wife of King Khan â Shah Rukh Khan â was once allegedly held at the Berlin airport for possession of Marijuana….”
A drug is any substance other than food, that which can be inhaled, injected, smoked or consumed by a person. Consuming any form of drugs is very harmful to human body, but yet people fall prey to such habits either due to socializing, peer pressure, depression or any other reason.
But the fact remains, that drugs causes harm and needs to be avoided. In Mumbai itâs been reported that drug peddlers target college youths in pubs, disco and other joints, while slum dwellers also prey to such substance are seen lying in an unconscious state by the road side.
Apart from these, the drug menace has also hit the rich and high flying celebrities from the glamour world of Bollywood. Some of the famous stars of yesteryearâs and current generation were reportedly involved in some of the other form of drug abuse â whether usage, possession or transit
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February 4, 2017 at 3:53 PM
Agree with the article, except it’s under a decade late. As he still has a loyal fanbase he is capable of delivering interesting films. I quite liked the DZ role but one knows his safety zone is a YRF film & it won’t be too long before he goes back there.
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February 4, 2017 at 11:06 PM
DZ was a good movie. SRK was great, till the SRK-Alia angle was brought in. Seem out of place and totally not required. Probably SRK must have suggested the same I guess, knowing him. He was doing perfectly fine as a guide/mentor/doctor to Alia and I know getting close to your guide/mentor is common but somehow it din’t work in the movie. In fact would have been more interested in knowing SRK’s character’s past and probably they could have shown another unconventional/funny way SRK could have used to convince her she is fine and needs no more sessions. Anyways, still was a decent effort which of course appealed only urban audiences.
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February 4, 2017 at 11:22 PM
I meant SRK-Akia romantic* angle.
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February 4, 2017 at 11:23 PM
Alia*.. it’s difficult typing lying down đŚ
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February 4, 2017 at 11:23 PM
There was no SRK Alia angle in that movie..except the fascination she felt for her saviour..which was quite natural.
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February 4, 2017 at 11:26 PM
Well that’s how it was tried to make it look…but well..was low point for me..movie din’t need that..
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February 4, 2017 at 1:19 PM
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February 4, 2017 at 1:27 PM
vidhu vinod chopra is talking some sense,all these years we wasted our energy & time on superstars as who is bollywood king…” the bollywood story is the real king “
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February 4, 2017 at 5:20 PM
He’s actually talking nonsense because he says “Iss kahaani ka king nirmata nahin hai, darkhak hai.” What does that even mean?
So Aamir gets no credit either as a star or actor or even producer. God only knows what this self-absorbed, delusional (and entertaining for that reason) guy had in mind to say this.
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February 4, 2017 at 5:22 PM
I meant ‘darshak” – audience
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February 4, 2017 at 11:40 PM
Yeah – tell him that the real reason behind that crap-fest caled “The Broken Horses” was not Vinod Chopra but the Kahani đ
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February 4, 2017 at 1:38 PM
What sense is he talking ? Hrithik would be a total misfit for Aamir’s role in Dangal , Besides Aamir’s acting in the film his goodwill and credibility has lot to do with with Dangal success which clearly HR and others stars dont have .
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February 4, 2017 at 2:01 PM
For someone who has collaborated with Aamir for his 2 biggest hits, I’m surprised he doesn’t recognise what time Aamir puts into his films. Dangal he produced. Without Hirani, VVC had a varied directing career. He’s lucked out big time.
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February 4, 2017 at 2:13 PM
Content was always the king. Execution is the Wazir. There are many good stories that flattered to decieve. There are infinite no. of things that can go wrong and ruin a potentially good story. In bollywood there is only 1 person who can almost guarantee to get it right every time. His name is Aamir Khan.
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February 4, 2017 at 4:45 PM
Yeah right VVC ! Film industry is full of these self-aggrandizer and agenda driven narcissists. Easily visible why he is saying that……and pushing his own upcoming movie in the bargain.
This idiot has produced so many movies after vetting the story ….so if he is concerned on story why haven’t they work even at small level. Dangal with anyone else would not even be a 100 cr grosser. Strictly for sake of argument ( in reality doubt that ) considering his stardom salman may take it to 150 cr or ” a bit’ further. Dangal has aamir written in bold letters.
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February 4, 2017 at 4:57 PM
I agree. I didn’t realise he was thinking of his next film while saying that. But you’re right.
I may have seen his point with regards to some other film but to say that only the story is king in Dangal is ridiculous. The writing is strong but it wouldn’t have been one tenth of the film if not for Aamir.
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February 4, 2017 at 6:24 PM
VVC’s quote of story is the king makes his job of producing movies irrelevant as per him the good stories get translated in to a movie w/o the need of competent directors (make anybody a director with good story!) & the producer becomes redundant in the process, so do away with this department based on your comment & VVC becomes jobless! He has hoards to sustain himself for the rest of his life thanks to Hirani & Aamir. Take Hirani out of his production house only then he would realise the immense value of a director & a star!
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February 4, 2017 at 9:17 PM
Remember VVC made Aamir sign a clause that he wont interfere with the film? VVC is stating what he needs..that he needs Hirani as the director and the story of course he brings.
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February 4, 2017 at 10:25 PM
Yes Aamir is a greenhorn in Bollywood to sign such a clause. This guy is shameless and still comes on public platform and give gyaan to people after failure and absolute duds by the dozen.
Even after all the talent Hirani benefited immensely with aamir association and I don’t know about 3I but PK would be a sub standard without an Aamir there to make it work. Dutt Biopic is round the corner and even after sitting on this project for 4-5 years all the truth will be revealed.
India is a nation driven by stars and nothing is going to change in the near future. Just look at all the ‘story’ and ‘director’ driven over achievers for the whole of last year. What is the 2nd highest total after Dangal and Sultan …..a meager 130 cr and that too had another superstar MSDhoni’s name attached to it.
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February 7, 2017 at 6:45 PM
Your memory seems to have some special compartment to “recall or retain Aamir related news dating back to 25 years”!! A fan keeps a very-very close tab on his competitor’s history even at the risk of erasing his idol’s past as memory needs space & fan prefers to keep his competitor’s history so as to use it as a weapon for the support of his idol as he is fully aware that his idol’s present & future don’t give him this luxury to win the war đ
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February 4, 2017 at 5:19 PM
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February 4, 2017 at 9:54 PM
Indiatimes|The Times of India|The Economic Times
âDangalâ success bash: Karan Johar, Alia Bhatt, Rekha attend Aamir Khanâs star-studded party
TNN | Updated: Feb 5, 2017, 08.10 AM IST
While most stars are quick to announce a success bash within days of their film’s release, Bollywood’s Mr. Perfectionist, Aamir Khan, likes to do things differently. The actor likes to throw a success bash only when his film is truly a success in every sense of the word. Over 40 days after the release of ‘Dangal’, which now holds the distinction of being Bollywood’s highest grosser of all time, Aamir and the film’s team got together to host a success bash on Saturday night. And when you’re celebrating the success of Hindi cinema’s biggest film, it is only natural that the night will be high on star power. All of Bollywood came together to celebrate Aamir’s labour of love – a film that is easily the most loved one of the year gone by.
Aamir looked dapper in a Nehru jacket while his wife Kiran Rao looked elegant in a golden sari. The two shared an ‘aww’ moment on the red carpet as the actor endearingly planted a kiss on Kiran’s cheek. The two were gracious hosts as they welcomed their guests. Aamir’s daughter Ira too was by her father’s side on his big day.
Karan Johar was one of the early birds at the party. The filmmaker heaped praises on the actor as he said, “Aamir is a game-changer and he has given mainstream cinema a new voice.” Celebrated singer Asha Bhosle too was all praise for the film as she said, “I had decided not to watch the film as I don’t like to watch wrestling. But ‘Dangal’ is a beautiful film and Aamir is a brilliant actor.”
‘Dangal’ girls – Fatima Sana Shaikh and Sanaya Malhotra – posed on the red carpet with their on-screen mom Sakshi Tanwar. While Fatima looked gorgeous in a black number, Sanya showed off her glamorous side in a one-shoulder dress. Zaira Wasim too wouldn’t miss the bash for the world. Director Nitesh Tiwari and wife Ashwini Iyer Tiwari were seen bonding with the guests.
The otherwise reclusive Rekha made it a point to attend the bash and congratulate Aamir in person. It was every photographer’s delight as the senior actress and Aamir posed together on the red carpet.
Vidya Balan walked in hand-in-hand with husband Siddharth Roy Kapur. The actress looked like a dream in a golden Anavila sari.
Alia Bhatt came in with director friend Ayan Mukerji. Shahid Kapoor looked suave in black and his wife Mira dazzled as always in a blue number. While Kriti Sanon showed off her toned pins in a short blue outfit, Sunny Leone looked ravishing in a black number. The red carpet witnessed a whole lot of bonding – if on one hand, veteran actresses Waheeda Rehman and Asha Parekh posed together, on the other hand, former beauty queens Dia Mirza and Lara Dutta were seen chatting nineteen to the dozen.
Filmmaker Vidhu Vinod Chopra graced the event. The ‘3 idiots’ producer was quite forthright in asserting that Aamir is not the sole reason behind the film’s immense success. He said, “Aamir Khan is not the king, the story of ‘Dangal’ is the king. Even if the film didn’t have Aamir and had Hrithik Roshan, even then it would work at the box-office.”
Others at the party included Jeetendra with son Tusshar, Anil Kapoor, Kapil Sharma, Randhir Kapoor, Imran Khan and Randeep Hooda.
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February 4, 2017 at 11:20 PM
On BR’s blog someone wondered why srk is most hated? I left this comment there.
Why srk is hated the most among the Khans? there are so many theories going around. His boasting. Alleged award manipulation. Media manipulation and having PR done by some mediawallahs. His hamming instead of acting and getting away with it. Playing minority card to get sympathy. Too much air and little substance. Ego.
Yes, he is working very hard. But that hardwork is not always about acting and doing good cinema.
He has got some charisma and that charisma is working till today.
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February 5, 2017 at 12:41 AM
Hatred started from the pure jealousy of other actor’s fans long ago..and till today they are finding newer reasons for it!
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February 5, 2017 at 3:05 AM
These are not only aamir fans invention. There are others too who agree. Everything cant be termed as jealousy.
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February 5, 2017 at 3:49 AM
Sanjana – Agree with most of your points. But I don’t really think anyone will invest into a feeling like hatred. Its just that the things you said in above post were done so shamelessly and boasted so arrogantly that apart from SRK fans and PR machinery no one could stand it any longer. I think it was a very gradual process though which became more vocal a decade back.
Though he continues to have a loyal fanbase for good reasons. He is good, but was never as good as he was made out to be. Some still believe in the hype he had created despite numerous failures in last decade or so. Again mainly due to his PR machinery. I really admire his PR skills though and his wit really helps him.
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February 5, 2017 at 4:01 AM
I answered someone who said why there is so much hatred for him. It can also be a perception. Hatred is a strong word but then it can be said that some irritation is there.
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February 5, 2017 at 12:31 AM
The early estimates of Saturday are 4 cr or so for both Kaabil and Raees. That is hardly any growth from Friday. Both movies are goner, but then again Roshan is claiming 9 cr on Saturday and started his 100 cr propaganda.
Raees probably is touching 120 cr by now (till saturday) and Kaabil perhaps 85 cr or so.
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February 5, 2017 at 12:47 AM
Raees will probably end up at 130 cr and Kaabil in 90-95 cr range. Dont think there will be too much losses involved for both, but no way these two can be counted as ‘success’ of any sort.
One good thing that has come out of these BO manipulations is that the sites that were quoting producer totals are now more confident about their own tracking numbers and are shunning the producer totals which look fishy.
It will be interesting if Jolly LLB 2 grosses more than 130 cr of Raees.
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February 5, 2017 at 2:32 AM
@pktalli,u were right i managed to see D3 uk collns on boxofficemojo,it is showing 4.44m$ for D3 in UK but how does that converts into 2.71mpounds which BOI is showing.taking converter of 0.81, 4.44m$ is almost 3.6mpounds.it means BOI is doing some forgery with aamir films compared to SRK films in overseas collns.
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=intl&id=dhoom3.htm
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February 5, 2017 at 2:53 AM
Aamir announced that he will shooting for TOH from May this year. TOH in my book is the right commercial movie to follow up an intense film like Dangal.
Aamir is always good in mixing things up. He did a Ghajini after TZP, a Dhoom after Talaash and now TOH after Dangal.
TOH seems to be an action packed adventure film in a period setting, which sounds quite promising. Waiting for Diwali 2018!
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February 5, 2017 at 3:58 AM
It is exciting to see Aamir go back to a period setting. Reminds me of Lagaan and Mangal Pandey days. Lagaan was a hoot. But I liked Mangal Pandey more. The craze for MP was at its peak (specially after DCH). Had to stand in a long queue to get tickets in the first place and watched it in a jam packed theater in first week.
The movie didnt do much at box office after week one. But the opening was super and it recovered its costs.
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February 5, 2017 at 2:56 AM
BOI is giving 4 cr for kaabil sat while official fig. is 9.22 cr.spechless at the manipulation.i am waiting for red chillies calculation.as per BOI even raees has also done 4 cr on sat.bollyarena is saying 4.25 cr for kaabil sat.means kaabil has beaten raees for sat.Also 100 cr (106 cr)has been crossed for kaabil as per filmkraft,while BOI is giving 73.5 cr for kaabil.diff of 33 cr 11 days.(45% difference,beats even K3).
http://www.koimoi.com/box-office/kaabils-day-wise-box-office-collections-in-india/
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February 5, 2017 at 3:06 AM
As per estimates from bollyarena, indicine and addatoday, Kaabil figure is somewhere in between BOI’s 73 cr and Roshan’s 106 cr. BOI is probably under-reporting Kaabil.
But their Raees number is in the same range with other estimates.
It is good to have the estimates from more sites than just BOI and producers, as they indicate the range in which the actual collections probably are.
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February 5, 2017 at 3:14 AM
@marcus,it is not an in between fig,much more manipulation has been done by filmkaft.Kaabil is max at 85 cr though indicine wld be having it even lower than 85cr,as from last few days,kaabil manipulation has reached pinnacle.but ya even BOI is underreporting kaabil as well.might have done the same with K3 as well.
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February 5, 2017 at 3:42 AM
A spades a spade.
Every party is manipulated.
RR is over reporting to greatest degree.
Then RCE and Excel over reporting.
BOI is under reporting Kaabil and with high probability previous HR films. I know for sure when I was estimating figures they under reported Krrish in 2006. Now their under reporting might be in some people’s minds within a certain threshold. But that’s only right If all collections of ALL movies went in that direction. They don’t, based on this they have leverage to fudge commentary and verdicts.
The estimate sites are wrong as they waited too long to expose the trade and producers. If you have the data use it.
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February 5, 2017 at 4:05 AM
Both are big names and they are setting this kind of example to the lesser ones!
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February 5, 2017 at 11:25 AM
Isn’t reporting manipulated nos. by any party some sorta cheating. I mean if the nos. are without any basis isn’t there some legal mechanism that can audit. And how does paying of taxes work out??
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February 5, 2017 at 3:00 AM
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Kaabil (Hindi) showed growth of around 60% on its second Saturday which was a little better than Raees and the collections were in the same range to Raees on day eleven with 4 crore nett. This has taken the total of the film to 73.50 crore nett which is not good.
There was an excuse in the first weekend as Raees was strong but even that does not mean you collect just 31 crore nett over the first three days and that too when one is a big national holiday but this week Raees has low occupancy so is not much of a factor but the problem is the occupancy of Kaabil is only slightly better. The business of Kaabil till date is as follows.
First Week – 67,00,00,000 (nine days)
Friday – 2,50,00,000
Saturday – 4,00,00,000
Second Weekend – 6,50,00,000 (Two days)
TOTAL – 73,50,00,000
The film is now leading Raees in terms of daily collections in Delhi /UP, East Punjab, Rajasthan, CI and Bihar while in other circuits Raees is leading barring Mumbai where both films are same with a little over 1 crore nett.
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February 5, 2017 at 3:02 AM
Raees Second Saturday Business
Sunday 05 February 2017 11.00 IST
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Raees showed growth of around 50% which is the normal trend for the second weekend. The film collected four crore nett on the second Saurday taking its 11 day total 118.50 crore nett. The growth on the second Saturday is not huge as films can grow 80-100%. Although here the film has had an extended first week so growth was always likely to be less.
The film will cross the business of other Republic day week releases like Agneepath and Airlift shortly but its still an under performance. Even taking into account the clash the film still managed to open and the problem has been holding. The business of Raees till date is as follows.
First Week – 1,11,75,00,000 (nine days)
Friday – 2,75,00,000
Saturday – 4,00,00,000
Second Weekend – 6,75,00,000 (two days)
TOTAL – 1,18,50,00,000 apprx
The business of Kaabil has caught up with Raees for the first time since they released as both films have grossed similar amounts on the second Saturday. Kaabil could go ahead of Raees possibly on Sunday or one of the weekdays
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February 5, 2017 at 3:08 AM
Official fig. for raees sat is 8 cr,while BOI is having 4 cr.manipulation of 100% though still lesser than Filmkraft.this is damaging for SRK’s reputation.
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February 5, 2017 at 4:13 AM
I am not a box-office king, says Aamir Khan
âTill today I never signed a film on the basis of its capability to do business. I prefer to choose a film from my heart. All the films Iâve done till now are those which touched my heart,â he said.
ââTaare Zameen Parâ, â3 Idiotsâ, âRang De Basantiâ or âSarfaroshâ, when I did those films, I never thought they would do such a good business. If you take âDangalâ as an example, I played a role of an aged and heavy wrestler. There are no romantic songs or any typical formula to become a blockbuster. Therefore, we never predicted that the film would be such a big hit,â he added.
âI would never do films like âDhobi Ghatâ with Kiran if I have ever thought of doing films by its number.â Bollywoodâs Mr. Perfectionist told the reporters.
Asked if he wants to take forward the success internationally, Aamir said that for him the most respectable award is his audienceâs love.
âOther than this, I do not think about any other awards.â
Aamir also spoke about the recent attack of a mob on the âPadmavatiâ set in Jaipur.
Saying that the attack on Sanjay Leela Bhansali as âunfortunateâ, the 51-year-old actor said: âTaking law in our own hand is not legal for anyone. What has happened is very wrong and saddening. The people of Rajasthan are very much lovable and sensible. My experience with the people and the place was very good.â
âWhen a small group does this kind of an act, then the entire populattion gets a wrong name. This is very regrettable,â he said.
http://www.koimoi.com/bollywood-news/im-not-a-box-office-king-says-aamir-khan-post-dangals-massive-success/
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February 5, 2017 at 4:18 AM
Let Kiran declare that you are her King. Remember last time? LOl!
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February 5, 2017 at 8:48 AM
I watched the video and found it quite sweet, that Aamir was publicly acknowledging his wife — who is said to be a very involved co-producer. I think he meant it in a nice way , like I am her king, and she is my queen sort of thing. Why remind the poor chap about his first failed marriage?âşď¸ The media also asked him about Valentine’s Day and Aamir quipped that ‘ for us every day is Valentine’s Day.’ Biwi smiled along. I guess they have learnt to accept each other beyond the pin pricks over an 11 year marriage that can sometimes spill on to the public stage, as with any celebrity.
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February 5, 2017 at 9:00 AM
I believe Sanjana was referring to the ‘intolerance’ remark by Aamir…not his first marriage.
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February 5, 2017 at 9:25 AM
OK. That was one big error he must be still living down.
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February 5, 2017 at 9:27 AM
Cooldude is right.
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February 5, 2017 at 10:09 AM
Filmmaker Kabir Khan says that the cameo in Salman Khan starrer âTubelightâ was screaming for superstar and hence Shah Rukh Khan graciously agreed to do the role.
âI am not going to divulge much details about the role. Let the film come out. It is a cameo, which was screaming for a superstar so we went to Shah Rukh and asked to do the special role. He graciously agreed to do it,â Kabir said at the success party of âDangalâ on Saturday night.
The âBajrangi Bhaijaanâ helmer also spoke about his planning to work with âKaabilâ star Hrithik Roshan.
Shah Rukh graciously agreed to do cameo in ‘Tubelight’: Kabir Khan
Shah Rukh graciously agreed to do cameo in âTubelightâ: Kabir Khan
âUsually I donât announce my next project until my film gets released. Iâve a long-standing relation with Hrithik. Obviously, I had a chat with him and we keep discussing but nothing is finalised yet,â said Kabir, who also hopes to see âKaabilâ in the coming week.
Kabir expressed his happiness at the huge success of Aamir Khan starrer âDangalâ and said the film is well-deserved to become highest grossing film.
âTubelightâ is written and directed by Kabir Khan. Based on 1962 Sino-Indian War, this historical war drama also features Chinese actress Zhu Zhu, Shatrughan Sinha, and the late Om Puri among others.
The film is slated to release on July 26.
http://www.koimoi.com/bollywood-news/fresh-details-on-shah-rukh-khans-cameo-in-salmans-tubelight/
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February 5, 2017 at 11:28 AM
I am more excited about Chinese actress in the movie. Could become the first crossover Indo-Chinese project.
Aamir should have been chosen in the cameo if the script shouted a super star.
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February 5, 2017 at 10:21 AM
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February 5, 2017 at 11:26 AM
Juhi still looks the same đđđ
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February 5, 2017 at 11:27 AM
I really think SRK should retire or take a break for 3-4 years, spend time with family, go on a vacation, do some advertisements, instrospect and make a comeback as an alternate hero.
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February 5, 2017 at 11:55 AM
I agree. He needs a 1 year break to rethink on the direction of his career.
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February 5, 2017 at 12:21 PM
He is already doing it. It’s no longer a choice now. Someone compared him to Rajesh Khanna the other day. I disagreed because Raees was still showing promise. But the way it has folded is shocking and shows that signs are now there. I hope I am wrong like many here.
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February 5, 2017 at 4:22 PM
I don’t agree as he had had breaks lasting for a year in between his one movie release to the next. After RNBDJ, his next MNIK came after almost 14 months & a bigger gap of almost 20 months or more than 1.5 years in his next release in Ra-1 in Oct. 2011!! So this break theory doesn’t make sense as he is not in his prime where he could afford such gaps & also feeble box office performances of his previous few movies which don’t give him the luxury to bask in the glory of his last mammoth successes like Salman & Aamir can! So rather than taking a break he should relax a bit & let his directors do what they would like to do with him with out pandering to his stardom & his image becoming the handicap in not being able to realise their vision in its totality. This is what happened with Rohit Shetty in Dil Wale where he could not make what he actually wanted to only because of the external pressures I mentioned above as he kept vacillating between his sensibilities to catering to the expectations of Shahrukh-Kajol combo fans which resulted in half-backed recipe of Dil Wale!! If Rohit Shetty had stuck to his belief & sensibilities, which he did while making CE, Dil Wale would not have been such a hotchpotch niether here or there!!
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February 5, 2017 at 11:30 AM
BOI number is final in the industry. One may disagree or call it biased but it is most genuine till now. All stars too quote its figure.
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February 5, 2017 at 12:35 PM
I partially agree with what Vidhu Vinod Chopra said about Dangal and Aamir.
Dangal is a movie where Aamir was the third best actor after the girls. The movie could become genuine because of its strong supporting cast. In fact the story was about Geetha Phogat. It’s another matter that the girls did not get the recognition in the awards they deserved to win. So any other good actor in place of Aamir would have given an equally good movie.
What i do not agree is that the movie had been equally successful. Aamir brought in huge credibility and honesty by giving his physicality for the role. This dedication is exemplary and don’t think any other actor barring Tom Hanks or Leonardo DiCaprio could have done it.
Aamir fans could not understand that VVC actually gave the best compliment to Dangal. Unfortunately for fans, hero is bigger than the movie and hence all joined and attacked VVC like the Karni Sena. Someone rightly said – Aamir Khan’s fans are showing intolerant behaviour known with SRK earlier.
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February 5, 2017 at 12:56 PM
No other actor in the industry has the balls to put on that kind of a weight (and then loose it for a 30 second clip). No other actor in the industry has the balls to spend 2 years on a movie like this (or any movie..I mean which actor spends two years on a movie). VVC must have had a brain fart when he made that comment. There is a reason Aamir movies make what they make…he has earned this reputation. People don’t come to the theatres to watch movie with Aamir Khan! They come to watch an Aamir Khan movie! Some people still don’t know the difference!
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February 5, 2017 at 1:04 PM
Aamir as third best actor after the girls? No, I don’t think that’s right. Aamir did his job perfectly , as needed, neither underplaying nor hamming. He was pitch perfect.
Actually Aamir is the first person to admit that the girls and Sakshi did a fabulous job, that their understanding and execution of their characters was quick, that he laboured more. But, and this is my point, Aamir’s labour bore fruit. He never came across as the actor Aamir, but managed to immerse himself well into the character.
The girls were terrific and have been recognized as such by the audience.
VV Chopra is a bit like Ram Gopal Varma — blunt, outspoken and graceless. You don’t attend an actor’s success party and use the occasion to snidely diss him.
Dangal would not have reached where it did if anybody other than Aamir had produced the film. Aamir is known to take keen interest in every aspect of filmmaking. Even the songs ( like the iconic , intelligent and hilarious Hanikarak Bapu) were written and composed in Aamir’s Panchgani home. The same process was followed when the music of Tare Zameen Par was being composed.
Here is revealing interview from Dangal Director Nitesh Tiwari. Do read it to the end.
But also — ignore the mischievous headline and loaded questions from an interviewer who has obviously not appreciated the film, understood its spirit or its essence.
http://www.huffingtonpost.in/2017/01/30/director-nitesh-tiwari-comes-clean-on-dangals-flawed-feminism/
I have returned to my original user ID.
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February 5, 2017 at 1:15 PM
It’s dubious and disingenuous to suggest Dangal with any other actor would create the same result. It is because of Aamir’s credibility and reputation that the film was taken seriously. If Dangal and Sultan released opposite, the surprise elements of Dangal would dwarf any entertainment value Sultan has to offer. VVC and people believing this rubbish are persistent and persuaded into believing John Abraham can do the same.
Basically the theory is any great script can be acted by ME and be super result. Even worse than this, the film I produced and acted in will do wonders. Only haters put forward such stupid arguments. So basically every actor is the same, everything depends on the content. What utter garbage! And we are meant to view this as a HUGE compliment. Give me a break!
It is not even about giving Aamir all credit. It’s about ones own dignity in making or putting forward such arguments. VVC’s Parinda was fine as I recall. At the time Anil Kapoor and Jackie Shroff were seen as brothers on and off screen. So he believes any Tom, Dick & Harry can carry off that lineage that the cast offered. Let’s face it Hirani’s the ONLY reason we get to listen to this overrated director who according to the BOI (THE FINAL SAY IN INDUSTRY) gave the industry’s biggest ever disaster in Broken Horses.
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February 5, 2017 at 1:16 PM
Never mind what VVC think , truth was spoken long ago https://twitter.com/niteshtiwari22/status/819067514760085505
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February 5, 2017 at 1:27 PM
Aamir literally risked his life for this film. After putting on weight and doing the major portion of the film, Aamir is said to have given it in writing — that if the need arose and his younger- leaner portion needed to be done by another actor — then please chose Ranveer Singh or Ranbir Kapoor for that role. Meaning, if I kick the bucket during this risky process of quick weight loss — go ahead, complete the film with these guys.
Which actor would be so madly committed to a film?
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February 5, 2017 at 1:36 PM
being a perfectionist, shudnt he be considering the height factor also?
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February 5, 2017 at 1:50 PM
Empty brains have thinking problems!
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February 5, 2017 at 1:32 PM
This reminds me, earlier once Amitabh bachchan said that in Lagaan, everybody else acted better than Aamir!
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February 5, 2017 at 1:40 PM
As a fan of Aamir such a comment is fine. But if one twists it to suggest anyone else can do the same, one is inadvertently dismissing Aamir’s contribution. He can be the worst actor in any great film IMO. But don’t suggest or insinuate any actor can replicate what he clearly brings to the table as a filmmaker. People turn up to his films expecting a good film not something flat. He’s earnt that goodwill after years of creating that brand. No one can just waltz in and be the same. A Chinese maker of phones can’t just become Apple overnight.
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February 5, 2017 at 2:15 PM
On the actorâs part, Barjatya made hay with Salman but could not do so with Hrithik & Kareena. The actors of MPK and HAHK had the same sugary and corny lines and behaved coyly and weirdly on screen but watch the difference to outcome when the same accomplished director hired so called good actors like Hrithik and Kareena and the results of those corny scenes in Main Prem Ki Diwani Hoon. Audience rushed for the first exit…… So itâs not that director and story can do everything and actor is the last in chain. Not in India at least.
Why is that story and accomplished directors not able to produce one superstar in 25 years.
Kal Ho Na Ho with similar corny scene and joke somewhat became classic of its time for Johar but sadly he could not do the same with a similar ADHM inspite of having that beautiful title track and hit ost because cast does not have the same credibility and connection. Even with Diwali release it all meh…..
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February 5, 2017 at 3:13 PM
Vijjie you are getting more delusional & snooty after the failure of Raees which is compelling you to revel in taking vicarious pleasure by inventing such infantile fantasies & attributing such mean remark which are also your own invention to Amitabh Bachchan just to buttress your outlandish claims! Give us any link to support your bogus claim which you are attributing to AB! This is height of jealousy where one wants to see one’s favourite at the top by hook or crook even if that means pulling other more successful ones down, is not only shameful but devoid of any logic whatsoever!!
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February 5, 2017 at 6:44 PM
hard to believe he said that.. he’s usually too painfully diplomaticâŚ
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February 5, 2017 at 8:34 PM
There was no such comment or even a milder one insinuating the same from AB, never!! It is all vijjie’s figment of imagination to dwarf Aamir’s stature & achievements to make Shahrukh bigger & better as if that were possible!! But let him take this fanciful flight as that might alleviate the pain & suffering he has been going through due to Shahrukh’s recent failures & underperformers!!
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February 6, 2017 at 1:50 AM
I wud love to give you a link when I can find it..but don’t think that all people cook up stories just to pull stars down, as some of you do about SRK!
But I can tell you a little more about this comment which I saw on TV..and I am sure many here who follow Amitabh Bachchan so passionately must have seen it also..It was said on one of the channels a few years ago, where he was picking his favourite films post independence or some landmark like that. I think the channel was NDTV and his list featured both Lagaan and Swades. About Lagaan, this comment of his surprised me, and that’s why it is remembered still..while about Swades he said he cud see the conviction in SRK’s acting.. đ
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February 6, 2017 at 2:16 AM
Even if he said so, that does not make aamir a lesser actor in Lagaan. Everyone has a right to express what they feel about acting. Even aamir said something about Black and that hurt Bachchan a lot. And Bachchan said about Delhi Belly being a shit film or some such thing as it clashed with BHTB but aamir did not react or expressed hurt feelings in both the cases. These things do happen and actors move on. Otherwise both will not be acting in a movie.
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February 6, 2017 at 2:35 AM
Aah good.. So it is not always the flight of fancy that others take!
Better to have some confidence in one’s hero..learn a thing or two from SRK fans if nothing else, M’aamir!
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February 6, 2017 at 2:45 AM
Yes, we are learning something from SRK fans. Assertive, rude and quarrelsome! Thanks a lot. Munna also noticed it!
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February 6, 2017 at 8:17 AM
Hard to believe!!! Anyways, IMO, Bhuvan and Aakash were the performances that have made Aamir Khan what he is today. Like it or not since then he has been giving acting lessons to rest of Bollywood. And later BO lessons. Only thing I dislike is the 3-4 yr break that happened between 2001 and 2005. I think Aamir was in terrific acting form during those times. He was pulling off some terrific acting in 25 seconds ads too back then.
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February 6, 2017 at 5:14 PM
All this is reminding me of RGV’s comment about the actor who played waiter in that famous ac scene with Aamir in Rangeela being better actor than Aamir!! So you have another staunch supporter in RGV besides of course you who feels that way for Aamir by shoving off your own agenda in making Shahrukh seem bigger & better this way as this is the only way left!! Even for a second, just to mitigate your long sufferings a little less, assume what AB said is to be true (mind you just assuming until you give us concrete proof ;), what does that prove except that AB found one actor’s acting better or more natural than Aamir in Lagaan other than it was his opinion which is very subjective & it doesn’t take anything away from Aamir’s outstanding performance considerded to be one of the best of all times!! I hope he wasn’t saying Shahrukh’s K3G performance to be better than Aamir’s & Shahrukh “deserved” all the best actor awards for his natural acting that year!!
I’m amused at the perplexing state of Shahrukh’s fans where they are feeling “ecstatic” about AB’s one particular comment about Aamir’s performance in Lagaan as they have nothing else left to revel in their own idol’s recent films & their box office debacles so now they are busy excavating Aamir’s past to bring him down & jettison their sense of despair & frustration at its pinnacle!! I can just wish that they get to see the light rather quickly as this continous gloom can jeopardize their mental well-being!!
For the record I found Salman’s “acting better than Shahrukh’s in Karan Arjun đ Does that prove anything, if any let me discover!!
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February 6, 2017 at 6:54 PM
On “the waiter was better” comment, RGV did indeed say it, but years later, he clarified the situation while making it, and how it got deliberately misrepresented.
http://www.indiaglitz.com/-i-will-never-ever-do-a-film-with-aamir-khan–ram-gopal-varma-hindi-news-40578.html
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February 6, 2017 at 9:14 PM
M’aamir, and i found Salman much better than Aamir in AAA, do you mind?
What I said was on the context and it was said by BigB not me, and you shud be concerned about his agenda in saying that rather than mine..and properly warn Aamir before acting with him in the next. Khuda na kare, he don’t hijack Aamir’s next 400 cr venture!
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February 6, 2017 at 10:40 PM
I will agree the Bachchans don’t have any particular soft corner for Aamir. On the other hand, Aamir adores Big B.
Amitabh is neutral on Aamir, but there is no love there either as far as I can tell. Big B is friendly, cordial and respectful towards Aamir, nothing more. I remember, he did not explicitly support Aamir during the Fanaa controversy. He went as far as to say that people objecting to him have as much democratic rights as Aamir does. Again, he took up the Incredible India campaign (I’m not sure it actually materialised). But that was another example of him not really standing up for Aamir. But then Big B for all his greatness as an actor has probably learnt it through the hard way never to take a stand. No one should rely on him to stand up for them. He just won’t. Of course, he spoke out against Harsha Bhogle’s commentary, leading to his sacking. But then Bhogle is a small fry and Big B is close now to the establishment.
Anyway, fact being he seems least close to Aamir among the Khans. I don’t see the Bachchans at any of Aamir’s events really. But then, are they at anyone else’s apart from their own or some usual suspect like Mukesh Ambani? They are a bit too full of themselves to accord anyone else any special privilege, but their stature is still altogether formidable.
So I agree, Bachchan’s equation with Aamir is nothing more than cordial, but I don’t really believe he said anything except great things about Lagaan. He had a small stake in the film, given he was the narrator, and I remember him writing a review of the film and calling it the most perfect film he has seen. Aamie Khan’s performance in Lagaan is too great for Bachchan or anyone to say it was underwhelming or whatever, forget saying everyone else in it was better! He may have indirectly paid a compliment by saying this is a rare film where the supporting cast outshines even the lead, but that can be said about so many films from Chak De to Sarfarosh to Sholay! I’m not suggesting he said this, but even if he did, I don’t think he meant to undermine Aamir.
Finally, even if he did, facts don’t change. I’m not a fan of Aamir’s performance in a number of films. Liked him in all his 90s films where he was very natural. HE is not great when cast against type – RDB, DCH IMO. Rangeela is an exception though. he was extraordinary there. And Lagaan is everything he personifies as a star and actor – earnest, brave, morally upright, people’s man. He just wouldn’t get that wrong!
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February 7, 2017 at 9:05 AM
Sandyi you have encapsulated the equation bit between AB & Aamir very poetically & succinctly. On your casting against the type take, I politely disagree as Aamir the actor in RDB surpasses Aamir in Lagaan IMO & I consider Aamir’s DJ performance as one among his top 5 others being PK, Sarfarosh, Rangeela & 1947 Earth the other 4. Even DCH & AAA acts of Aamir I like more than the Lagaan one, but Lagaan’s is a seminal performance for sure. Another thing I concur with you that Aamir’s 90’s performances were more natural than the post 2000 ones.
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February 7, 2017 at 9:20 AM
vijjie you have my full sympathies as recent box office performances of Shahrukh’s movies is forcing you to take this alternate route of fanciful flights!! But landing can be perilous after such adventurous flights, take care!!
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February 7, 2017 at 12:20 PM
sandyi, while i serached for the link for that comment, i came across another incident which was mentioned in media, take a look..
http://www.dnaindia.com/entertainment/report-did-aamir-deliberately-reveal-that-ashutosh-gowariker-rejected-amitabh-bachchan-s-voice-in-lagaan-1556321
Not very positive vibes indeed.. Especially when he counts BigB’s voice as another risk taken by the movie..
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February 7, 2017 at 12:24 PM
Despite all allegedly behaviour. Lagaan etc. Why are they doing Toh together?
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February 6, 2017 at 6:12 AM
I do remember AB saying something on the lines of the actors who played the villagers being more natural than Aamir. He also said that one can notice Aamir being very methodical on screen. But yeah it seems that woh comments Itihaas ke panno mein kaheen kho gayee đ
Did manage to pull up his review of Lagaan though
https://web.archive.org/web/20011109090730/http://www.filmfare.com/specialfeature/amitlagaan/index1.htm
Fair to say he liked it quite a bit đ
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February 6, 2017 at 6:27 AM
No, he liked it a lot. He was quite effusive in his praise for the movie. Mother will always be proud if her baby is praised more. It is nice of him to think of Dilip Kumar and Ganga Jumna. Bachchan himself is from UP and so his love for Avadhi is understandable.
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February 5, 2017 at 3:39 PM
Your logic is contradictory as it would mean Airlift, Baby, Special 26, Rustom would have had the same result with any other star in Akshay’s place as the stories were the paramount reason behind these films success regardless of actors starring in them!! And if we go by your theory, then Sholays, Mother Indias, Guides, MEAs, DDLJs, Lagaans, Hera Pheris to be just as good & successful even when we replace the actors of these movies with any other actors based on your support of VVC’s childish hypothesis that “STORY” is the “KING”!! A movie like Dangal or TZP or RDB or Lagaan would not be 1/100th of what they turned out to be if they would have starred any other actor other than Aamir!! And if VVC claims are gospel truth then why credit Shahrukh behind the success of all his movies or his stardom as they would have been equally as successful had Aamir or Akshay or even Emraan Hashmi acted in them as all of them had “KING STORY” to ensure success!!
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February 5, 2017 at 3:41 PM
This is in response to Naveen comment but landed at the wrong place!
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February 5, 2017 at 1:02 PM
As per early estimates from bollyarena, both Raees and Kaabil made 5 cr today. Raees has touched 125 cr and Kaabil roughly 90 cr.
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February 5, 2017 at 5:27 PM
BREAKING AWAY FROM THE BARD
By Kunal Guha, Mumbai Mirror | Feb 5, 2017
Breaking away from the Bard
Ahead of his upcoming love story, the National Award winner on raking in more credibility than money, his roster of shelved projects, and why heâd rather be a fool.
When Vishal Bhardwaj announced Rangoon, his upcoming love story set in the time of World War II, many felt the filmmaker was done with Shakespeare adaptations. But when we meet him at his tastefully furnished Andheri office, he points to a crowded book shelf adjacent to his desk and says, âThereâs still a lot left. I can adapt every Shakespeare play.â That said, he has chosen to take a break from the Bardâs works because âbohot ho gayaâ. âAnd adaptations have made me lazy as it gives you a ready structure. I want to do something original,â says the National Award winner. The original idea for Rangoon emerged from a script lab organised by Mira Nairâs film school in Kampala, Uganda, in 2004, where Bharadwaj was mentored by American screenwriter Mathew Robbins (Crimson Peak). But for reasons largely to do with finance, the film was shelved two months prior to production. It was an âambitious filmâ and the filmmaker wasnât âmature enoughâ to have made it then. âBecause you are judged by your last film (or films) and since this one demanded a huge canvas and was expensive, it wasnât being made for so long. Over the years, VFX evolved by leaps and I matured as a filmmaker to achieve that vision within a budget.â
But this isnât his first to be indefinitely held. âMy first film Barf, starring Manoj Bajpayee and Sushmita Sen, and to be produced by Ajay Devgn, didnât happen as Ajay had suffered losses with another film at the time.â Others include Aamir Khan-starrer Mr Mehta Mrs Singh, Dream Sequence and Mehmaan. âThere are various reasons why a film gets shelved, itâs not always finance,â he says, adding that the Khanstarrer is the one he regrets the most. âI saw Dangal and really liked it.â This rare compliment must be well-deserved as Bhardwaj decidedly avoids Hindi films. âI donât relate to them and since I am a part of the same industry, it becomes a problem,â he says, adding that he is addicted to Netflix and loves Black Mirror and The Americans.
For the rest follow the link:
http://mumbaimirror.indiatimes.com/others/sunday-read/breaking-away-from-the-bard/articleshow/56979038.cms
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February 5, 2017 at 8:56 PM
“This rare compliment must be well-deserved as Bhardwaj decidedly avoids Hindi films. âI donât relate to them and since I am a part of the same industry, it becomes a problem,â”
ha ha ha – look who is talking here – that is why his films are bombing at the BO – I just don’t look forward to his films anymore since many years now – what an overrated and self-obsessed copycat of shakespear……
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February 5, 2017 at 5:31 PM
Looks like Producer numbers of #Kaabil are very close to official numbers .. and #Raees numbers are heavily inflated from last Monday to stay in game. Atleast CI numbers suggested this which are 2.5 times of Raees …… but officially both Raees and Kaabil given same.
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February 5, 2017 at 5:32 PM
*Producer numbers of #Kaabil are very close to actual numbers
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February 5, 2017 at 9:18 PM
What? Producers numbers for Kaabil are not even close to actual numbers? Raees is off as well but Kaabil is going the Krrish 3 way with the help of Papa Roshan’s calculator.
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February 6, 2017 at 1:06 AM
Producer total for Kaabil has reached 118 cr. Whereas the estimates from bollyarena, indicine etc are around 90 cr only. RR has over reported by 20 cr or so.
The estimates for Raees is around 125 cr (same as BOI). Red Chillies is also over reporting numbers.
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February 6, 2017 at 4:13 AM
Typo – RR has over reported by 30 cr or so on Kaabil. Quite an achievement!
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February 6, 2017 at 12:20 AM
When she was 18, long before her Bollywood debut, Kangana Ranaut ran into a man who was doing gymnastics at Juhu Beach. Impressed, she asked the man, Surya Narayan Singh, to teach her how to do what he was doing. Since then, the actor has been learning yoga from Singh.
Now, HT has learnt that the actor has gifted her two-bedroom apartment in Andheri
to Singh in a bid to help him start a yoga centre. âThe apartment has a spacious balcony, where the yoga classes will be conducted,â says an insider.
Kangana Ranaut will next be seen in Vishal Bhardwajâs Rangoon.
Apparently, Kanganaâs apartment is worth more than Rs 2 crore. âItâs a kind gesture from Kangana, but she feels itâs her âguru dakshinaâ to Singh, who has been a pillar of strength in her life right from the start. He has never asked her for anything like that, but the actor felt that she should do something for him,â the insider says.
Kangana isnât just gifting Singh the posh apartment. The actor is apparently also helping him refurbish the place so it looks like âa nice yoga centreâ. âIn fact, Kangana visited the apartment a few days ago to instruct the contractor how to design and redo the house,â the insider says.
Kangana Ranautâs career took a big turn with Queen. (HT Photo)
The actor is ensuring the proposed centre will have everything that is needed, from personal lockers to health amenities. âSince she will be recommending the yoga centre to everyone, the actor wants everything to be of high quality. She has always been sensitive to people around her,â says the insider.
Kangana had also gifted another two-bedroom apartment to her sister, Rangoli Chan
http://www.hindustantimes.com/bollywood/kangana-ranaut-gifts-a-posh-flat-to-her-yoga-guru-as-guru-dakshina
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February 6, 2017 at 1:40 AM
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February 6, 2017 at 1:41 AM
This is a superhit trailer. Movie is looking fab and Varun + Alia is brilliant. First Day for sure.
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February 6, 2017 at 6:22 AM
Looks lovely. This one and Phillauri — two good releases in March.
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February 6, 2017 at 10:41 AM
Karan Johar can be accused of many things but not of being egoistical as a filmmaker. He has ditched the uber cool setting in favour of a Hindi heartland, in keeping with recent hits. Plenty of influences from here and there. Don’t think the film is going to be a breakout film in any sense, and Varun Dhawan also gives me the sense of a guy who is trying too hard to stand out, but sadly he has nothing original to offer. His act is a stereotype.
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February 6, 2017 at 3:15 AM
Madhuri Dixit has an OBJECTION with Sanjay Dutt biopic!
Madhuri Dixit has an OBJECTION with Sanjay Dutt biopic!
Actress Madhuri Dixit Nene has even approached filmmaker Rajkumar Hirani due to…
http://www.india-forums.com/bollywood/hot-n-happening/74824-madhuri-dixit-has-an-objection-with-sanjay-dutt-biopic.htm
Filmmaker Rajkumar Hirani’s biopic film on Sanjay Dutt is witnessing many changes with every passing day. The film will showcase many aspects of Baba’s personal and professional life. Due to the controversies that had been revolving around him for so many years, it is becoming difficult for the makers to portray it on the big screens.
The film was also supposed to have Sanju’s love life, but now the makers are facing another challenge if they want to incorporate it!
When we talk about Sanjay Dutt’s love story, how can one not mention about his alleged and famous relationship with Madhuri Dixit. But it seems that the ‘Dhak Dhak girl’ isn’t in agreement with it.
Madhuri Dixit Nene is reported to have asked the makers to strike out the part (her and Sanjay’s relationship) from the script.
A tabloid quoted a source stating, “Initially, Sanjay’s alleged affair with Madhuri was a part of the biopic. But when the married actress got to know about this, she quickly rushed to Rajkumar and asked him to remove this bit from the movie. Their relationship is one of the most highlighted part of Sanjay’s life, but considering the actress’ current stature, she disapproved of the part. Left with no option, Hirani had to eliminate it from the film”. (sic)
Sanjay Dutt’s biopic will feature Ranbir Kapoor playing the title role. The film also stars Dia Mirza, Sonam Kapoor, Anushka Sharma and Vicky Kaushal. It is slated to release sometime in December this year.
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February 6, 2017 at 3:49 AM
I would have really wanted to see it.
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February 6, 2017 at 11:09 AM
Damn! Most interesting part in his story, but I understand Madhuri’s concern. The narrative was that he was madly in love with her, and so was she. But when he was jailed etc – for terror activity – she obviously backed out. Love is not everything. Here. she was the very symbol of middle-class respectability. It just wasn’t in her sensibility to put romance above practical considerations.
But some of the media turn against her for not even visiting him in jail, forget standing by him. Madhuri has no way to know how exactly this episode will be portrayed in the film, and any negative tone can damage her reputation. So she’s right in one sense. But as an audience, this is very disappointing.
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February 6, 2017 at 3:54 AM
Naam Shabana Poster
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February 6, 2017 at 3:55 AM
This is a stellar starcast. Will see if reviews are good. Prequel to BABY.
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February 6, 2017 at 8:45 AM
Prithviraj in it?
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February 6, 2017 at 4:14 AM
Predictions 2017
300Cr +
Tiger Zinda Hai (Salman + Kat | Christmas release | Sulatn’s director)
TubeLight (Salman + Eid release | Kabir Khan is director)
200 Cr+
Ring (SRK, Anushka | 15th Aug release)
150 Cr+
Baahubali 2 (sequel to Blockbuster)
Padmavati (Ranveer, Deepika, Shahid | Sanjay Bhansali’s controversial saga))
2.0 (Rajnikanth | Diwali release)
100 Cr+
Raees (SRK)
Jolly LLB2 (Releasing next week)
Half Girlfriend (Based on Chetan Bhagat novel)
Badrinath Ki Dulhania (Varun + Alia | Holi Release)
Baadshaho (Ajay + Milan Luthria is director)
Golmaal 4 (Ajay + Rohit Shetty | Diwali release)
Judwa 2 (Dadid Dhawan + Varun | Sequel to Hit film)
Notable omissions: Rangoon, Jagga Jasoos, Toilet- Ek Prem Katha,
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February 6, 2017 at 4:24 AM
link?
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February 6, 2017 at 4:53 AM
http://www.bollywoodhungama.com/news/box-office-special-features/box-office-prediction-movies-will-make-rs-100-cr-rs-200-cr-rs-300-cr-2017/
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February 6, 2017 at 4:54 AM
I did change their predictions a bit but by and large its from BH
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February 6, 2017 at 11:03 AM
Happy to see Huma Quereshi in this film. She’s a lovely actress. Also, glad Akshay is not sticking to a tiredly conventional choice for his heroine (hot, sexy, decorative). First the Lunch Box heroine and now Huma. Just the change in choice of heroines suggests to me that his films are evolving.
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February 6, 2017 at 5:30 AM
Trailer out of Phillauri..but didnt they gave away too much again via trailer?
Title reminded of the old song ..and a romantic, rather grim ghost story cud have gone better with it.
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February 6, 2017 at 5:36 AM
Raees Has Big Drop In Second Weekend
Monday 06 February 2017 12.30 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
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Raees had a big drop in collections in the second weekend and even if we take the Fri – Sun period last week which was not exactly its first weekend the drop is nearly 75%. The collections in the second weekend are 11.75 crore nett which takes the business to 121.50 crore nett. The second weekend collections are not much better than Dear Zindagi which was a little short of 10 crore nett.
The difference between Raees and Kaabil is the initial and it is that which makes the film safe. The big numbers it took over the first five days has pulled it through and this was what Kaabil was not able to do. On Sunday Raees had lower collections than Kaabil for the first time. The business of Raees till date is as follows.
First Week – 1,10,05,00,000 (nine days)
Friday – 2,75,00,000
Saturday – 4,00,00,000
Sunday – 4,75,00,000
Second Weekend – 11,50,00,000 apprx
TOTAL – 1,21,55,00,000 apprx
It is circuits like Mumbai, Nizam / Andhra, Mysore, Tamil Nadu / Kerala and West Bengal which have aided the film and although these are down in the second weekend they outperformed the rest of India in the initial staged due to the presence of Shahrukh Khan. North India under performed from day one and its the multiplex business in these parts which is biggest disappointment.
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February 6, 2017 at 11:53 AM
i think raees isn’t even doing 20cr nett in second week.to put into prespective,dangal did 112 cr nett in second week.i think even second weekend was also abt 68cr nett.
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February 6, 2017 at 5:37 AM
Kaabil (Hindi) had a low second weekend of 11.75 crore nett apprx which has taken its total to 77.50 crore nett apprx. The growth over the weekend was decent and better than Raees but the collections are low and with under 78 crore nett in 12 days the film is not going anywhere.
The problem for Kaabil is not the second weekend but the first day collections. The film was crushed by Raees with just 8 crore nett coming on day one and that is where it lost any chance it did. The reports had to be good to survive that sort of start and here the were mediocre which did not show when it was a holiday but on normals day the collections went down to report levels. The business of Kaabil till date is as follows.
First Week – 65,74,00,000 (nine days)
Friday – 2,50,00,000
Saturday – 4,00,00,000
Sunday – 5,25,00,000
Second Weekend – 11,75,00,000 apprx
TOTAL – 77,49,00,000 apprx
The second weekend business of the film is very similar to Raees and it may finish the second week with a slightly higher number than Raees but that 44 crore nett lead for Raees over the extended first week will stay. Kabil may be able to cut it down by a crore or two by the end of its run but thats about it.
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February 6, 2017 at 6:02 AM
http://www.koimoi.com/box-office/raees-scores-lesser-than-kaabil-on-its-2nd-sunday-at-the-box-office/
Initial goes to Raees. Trending goes to Kaabil.
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February 6, 2017 at 6:57 AM
I think Raees crash is more notable than Kaabil’s trending. Both movies collected a paltry 12 cr in second weekend. Max estimates for Kaabil is around 90 cr (unless one takes RR seriously) and will probably not even cross 100 cr.
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February 6, 2017 at 7:05 AM
Jolly fever all over #JolluAaRahaHai
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February 6, 2017 at 7:22 AM
Jolly 1st review is out.
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February 6, 2017 at 8:24 AM
the last major Johar release and now a major SRK one will combine for something like 230 cr. Salman gets 200 in a Barjatya flop. How times have changed. There’s a reason one should have some humility in life but especially so in a roller coaster business like the movies. This applies to the fans also. I remember all the excessive things SRK fans used to say all those years ago. Today people are saying he’s in Akshay’s league or whatever (by the way I don’t agree with this at all). Even more sober voices know there’s a gulf between him and Salman/Aamir. Once when Aamir was getting success after Lagaan both SRK and his fans would say ‘yeah but who has the biggest grossers?’. Things change and when you fail it’s easy for people to ridicule you. It’s not a question of whether the criticism or the ridicule is deserved or not. But it’s symptomatic. Of course human nature being what it is people still don’t realize this. Once Johar would have the most smug things to say about his films and so on, he and those like him didn’t have the time of day for anyone not called SRK (recently in an interview Johar even admitted that he thought Aamir was finished after DCH or whatever it was.. this was Aamir post-Lagaan, not even Salman). Today he’s reduced to saying ‘I always knew my film couldn’t do more than 100’, today he has to praise Salman at the drop of a hat (or Aamir). Again no one learns. We see some other fans doing the same at the moment for their favorites.
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February 6, 2017 at 9:10 AM
Its not just Johar, many thought Aamir was finished during the 3-4 years break he took between DCH and MP for personal reasons. Lagaan and DCH were landmark movies, but at BO Lagaan was just a Hit (not a Blockbuster like Gadar) and DCH was only a metro-Hit. So those who count only Blockbusters failed to understand the impact and consequences that Lagaan and DCH were going to have later in his career.
MP when it came took a bumper opening (its a different matter that it didnt sustain). But after that he had thoroughly reaped the fruits of his labor in Lagaan and DCH.
Btw, I consider Akshay a major star (not in the league of Aamir/Salman, but he is right there after them). Comparing SRK to Akshay was a way to say that he is still a major star around, but hardly in the top level anymore.
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February 6, 2017 at 4:09 PM
MP was just like Raees or Dilwale. It’s opening showcased Aamirs star power that he had accrued due to Lagaan and DCH. Even though MP fizzled, any keen BO observer should’ve by then realized that Aamir had arrived finally to the top3. And ever since MP released, SRK never delivered another clean HGOY. (There is confusion betn OSO and D2). And since 2008, the picture became crystal clear with Ghajini comprehensively beating RNBDJ. In fact AK was a clear #1 since then, at least until Sallu joined the party with his resurgence after Dabang. And yet even Sallu has not been able to beat AK benchmark records which keep increasing the bar higher since Ghajini.
However, most SRK fans continued to keep their blinders on all the way even after disasters such as Fan. They kept finding excuses for every hit since RDB, constantly berating, undermining and abusing Aamir. But the #s always proved the Ranking. Its mighty amusing to see excuses for Fan or even JaiHo, but no quarter is given by the same folks to Talaash. And Talaash remains the only slight under-performer (had it made 5-6 more crores and crossed 100cr, nobody wouldve criticized it) in this Bull Run of Aamir since RDB.
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February 6, 2017 at 9:51 AM
well said – btw some interesting observations:
– Aamir has stopped attending the awards whereas SRK went for an overkill by hosting and dancing and cutting some cheap jokes year after year – he thought that this will make him more popular or whatever….
– Aamir didn’t fall for Thussad’s wax museum stuff
– Aamir didn’t attend Kapil Sharma or Big Boss kind of shows when every other star including SRK/Sallu keep going there
– He avoided romance in Dangal as script did not demand it (VV Chopra is crazy when he says Aamir wasn’t the reason here for its succes – without him Dangal wouldn’t have done even 50 cr forget anything more)
– Aamir has been continuously trying newer directors and newer scripts whereas SRK has started doing too late and he looks so jaded now in films
I think Sallu has kept his physique alright and he knows that ppl will accept him only in certain roles – so that leaves a huge gap between Aamir and the rest of the actors – I think BO wise it is Sallu but variety-wise I will put Akki on no 2 spot
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February 6, 2017 at 10:14 AM
âIf you are explaining, you are losing!â
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February 6, 2017 at 11:27 AM
I think in the last 6 years srk has under-estimated amir and salman..now he is paying the price for it and not only that amir khan has moved on according to time and thats why he is doing roles what people wants,where as srk was stuck in time and when he saw salman and amir doing films like gazini and kick or pk or sultan ,srk realised where he is going wrong,he tried those formula in which it back-fired on him..is it too late for srk ,nope i think he can still be huge success but he needs to find the right formula as he is getting old…I think villian is possibility there …bollywood is gone funny and been spoilt by akki,salman and amir by giving them quality films and srk has been stuck with similar roles ( rahul ) which is way outdated or you can say its a sour grapes status..srk is still there but only on star-power because initial of Raess has proved that..he is no 3 but now akki is breathing down his neck and there is ranveer,ranbir singh and others waiting in the wings..srk is still there but only just…
TZH or tubelight ,one of them surely will do 300cr and that will put another misery to srk ..
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February 6, 2017 at 11:30 AM
is srk Ring the final nail in the coffin or will he hit the jackot…suspense continues…
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February 6, 2017 at 11:31 AM
typo..jacpot
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February 6, 2017 at 11:42 AM
Agree, also the Imitiaz film is no guarantee at all. He showed great promise with Jab We Met, but following that most of his projects have just been strange, and not in a good way.
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February 6, 2017 at 11:49 AM
Also have to agree that with SRK being a distant third and Akki being a close fourth makes the number game interesting. Akki – if he gets two reasonably big hits can legitimately claim to be No 3 or at least jointly hold that position with SRK. I just don’t see why not, esp after the poor showing of Raees. When I saw the movie, i expected it to be a clean hit, given the buzz and the terrific initial. The content is not great, but it’s not poor either. Earlier, I didn’t think Diwale was particularly bad either. SRK has a wider and bigger fan following than Ranbir and Akshay (his immediate next competition) which guarantees a minimum initial, but when it comes to the neutral audience, all three are on the same level now.
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February 6, 2017 at 12:08 PM
Time for conspiracy theories! Then why didn’t it do that much?
What you say, the boycott srk campaign is still there or not?
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February 6, 2017 at 11:19 AM
The SRK camp has completely disintegrated and that tells you how much his currency has diminished. He does not elicit the same kind of loyalty and unqualified praise he commanded from folks like Adi, Johar, Farah and a whole lot of hangers on. Since all of them specialise in a certain kind of genre – romance, song and dance – sticking with SRK is not feasable anymore. The whole genre in its conventional avatar has reached a sell by date and it is no surprise that Farah, Adi and SRK are all struggling. Karan Johar being the astute one realised which way the wind was blowing and has correctly identified that his cinema has to change. He still isn;t everything right, but every now and then, he gets a decent hit through his production house. Last year, both ADHM and Kapoor and Sons added to his reputation as a venturesome producer-director.
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February 6, 2017 at 12:39 PM
clearly Kaka’s case (Rajesh Khanna) – he was stuck in a romantic hero image and could not come out of it and Bachchan ran him over there……Aamir has surprised every time…..no one expected him to be an action-hero and he gave Ghajini……and after that the surprise element has always been up his sleeves…..and I think he is the only hero-star-actor ppl really look forward and give respect to his body of work today in the way they do with no other star……
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February 6, 2017 at 9:56 PM
Why bother Rajesh Khanna still..Poor guy he had just 7 years at the top and never got back..we can find better examples to compare with him!
The more valid comparison is with Amitabh bachchan..I remember, when I was small, how when each of his film came out, it was touted to be the big comeback of bachchan..and nothing worked except Khuda gawah to an extent. I am reminded of that when some comments here say how SRK fans are hoping for a big one with each film of his..
And of course, bigb had an injury in between and then a failed career as an MP also..
And during this comeback period, he looked awful…it was a pain to see him romancing on the screen to be honest..
I just hope that SRK career doesn’t turn out the same way..since bachchan never got back to the position he was before. The villain was no one else, the time, age, took over and he couldnt go on being the same kind of hero any longer.
Imo, Raees is a good step..nobody faulted his acting or looks in this. Maybe late starting on the so called ‘acting’ path the other two khans are going..but surely, SRK is the more ‘gifted’ in that dept, as we all know!
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February 6, 2017 at 10:29 PM
many of your claims here are the stuff of fiction..
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February 6, 2017 at 10:33 PM
I always despised any SRK comparison with Big B and I still do. No one has ever had Big B kinda superstardom. I don’t even want to discuss on this.
And yes for SRK fans SRK is a biggest star, most gifted actor and probably SUPERSPIDERBATMAN. And he also is IRON MAN and HULK on weekends..just for fun.for his fans and kids.
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February 6, 2017 at 11:34 PM
As we all ‘from the la la land’ know….
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February 7, 2017 at 1:06 PM
It’s only fair to have a look at the comparison..i do have some idea of how BigB’s later years went..before he reinvented in the current avatar..
On the topic of super stardom, different eras can have different measures of it..it not the same now as it was 20 years ago, or another 20 years ago.
It is also not a podium somewhere imaginary, where actors stand in 1,2,3 positions according to their box office results..it is more likely to be measured in the impact any star had on the audience for a considerable period, consistently..
And in that count, it definitely is Shah Rukh Khan who had that kind of impact from when he came on the screen upto now..after the Bachchan era. And this is a fact whether anybody despise it or not.
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February 7, 2017 at 1:33 PM
Nothing up to now. Up to 96 all 3 of SRK, Salman and Aamir delivered big hits like DDLJ, HAHK, RH. What you write off SRK makes sense abroad. In India he reigned supreme 98-04. That reign was more consistency then what you see now with Aamir and Salman. Since then he’s had 1 big year in India (07). Overseas he’s held well but the infamous top 20 hits predominantly SRK dominated are being wiped out systematically by Aamir mainly and then Salman. No one can rewrite history, SRK was there first. I remember his amazing foothold in places like Austria and Germany. But the money makers of China are outgrossing SRK films WW excluding India. Since 08, Aamir and Salman have done one on SRK.
But because of his history, one cannot write him off as he still has an initial. And now he’s found a calculator too.
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February 7, 2017 at 7:28 PM
SRK was never undisputed no. 1 like Bachchan for a decade or so. He fell flat whenever he wasn’t doing mushy mushy stuff. And his undisputed no. 1 status between 2002 – 2005 is because someone was in a sabatical. Anyways he was a top star, but bachchan he was never. He wasn’t unanimously liked by majority of people. So comparison with Bachchan is a nice fantasy but ..lol..
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February 6, 2017 at 9:28 AM
Shah Rukh Khan’s ‘Raees’ won’t release in Pakistan
PTI | Updated: Feb 6, 2017, 07.46 PM IST
HIGHLIGHTS
Pakistan’s censor board blocks Shah Rukh Khan-Mahira Khan starrer “Raees” for release in the country
Board finds film’s content and theme ‘objectionable’
Shah Rukh Khan during a promotional event of his film Raees (PTI photo)Shah Rukh Khan during a promotional event of his film Raees (PTI photo)
KARACHI: Pakistan’s censor board has not cleared Bollywood superstar Shah Rukh Khan-Mahira Khan starrer “Raees” for release in the country after finding the film’s content and theme objectionable.
“The portrayal of Muslims is negative and the film’s content undermines Islam, and a specific religious sect, (while also) portraying Muslims as criminals, wanted persons and terrorists,” an official source in the censor board said.
The distributors of “Raees”, Hum Films had last week submitted the film to the censor board for clearance to release in the Pakistani cinema halls after the government allowed screening of latest Bollywood movies last week.
A official with Hum Films declined to comment and said so far they had not got any official word from the censor board about banning “Raees.”
The lifting of the unofficial ban followed the release of a flow of latest Bollywood movies including “Kaabil” and “Ae Dil Hai Muskhil.”
“‘Raees’ will not release in Pakistan according to a decision taken by the censor board today,” the source told PTI.
“It shows Muslims in very negative light and could lead to reactions from different sects and it is unsuitable for public screening.”
Another source said that CBFC chairman Mobashir Hasan had backed the censor board members in their decision.
Timesofindia
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February 6, 2017 at 10:53 AM
I see how Pakistan might find the film objectionable, given it does portray the Muslim community represented through Raees as being involved in illegal business and being a terror suspect. Given the Islamaphobia and the obvious issues around Islam-based terror activities, this is not the kind of film they necessarily feel good about projecting even to their own public.
This is not to suggest the film is particularly bold or plucky. In fact, the opposite.
I wonder if Mahira was chosen keeping in mind Pak collections. That has come a cropper now. Everything just going wrong for a film that had the best pre release buzz i have seen in a long time.
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February 6, 2017 at 4:58 PM
Good I’m glad. Serves SRK right by trying to play politics. No doubt mahira was chosen for this reason. Her role was so basic, any newcomer could’ve done it. Actually the Jolly LLB 2 trailer played in theaters before the movie which has Huma Qureshi and hindsight she would’ve been perfect in Raees too. Or Tabu. Even the overseas BO of Raees is nothing spectacular so hopefully SRK doesn’t play identity/religious politics again because it failed here…
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February 6, 2017 at 9:31 AM
A lot of studios follow boxofficeindia.com for figures, where numbers are sometimes 20 to 25 per cent lower than what the producers claim a lot of times. A distributor, who didn’t want to be named, told TOI, “BoxofficeIndia.com has authentic numbers, most from the fraternity follow this when tracking one another’s films. But when it comes to their own films, they track the sites that show inflated numbers.”
The disparity in box-office numbers can even be seen in the case of recent big releases, ‘Raees’ and ‘Kaabil’. According to Boxofficeindia.com, Shah Rukh Khan’s ‘Raees’ collected approximately Rs 1,10,05,00,000 in 9 days. However, according to Bollywoodhungama.com, the same film was reported to have collected Rs 122.36 crore at the end of Week One. For ‘Kaabil’. Boxofficeindia.com reported that the film had earned approximately Rs 65,74,00,000 in 9 days. In sharp contrast, Bollywoodhungama.com reported that Hrithik Roshan’s film garnered Rs 90.55 crore in the same span.
Such disparity was even seen in the case of Diwali release ‘Shivaay’. While Bollywoodhungama.com reported that the lifetime collections of the Ajay Devgn-starrer were Rs 100.33 crore, Boxofficeindia.com reported that it had earned Rs 84,83,50,000 (Total Nett).
India makes the maximum number of films in a year, more than any film industry in the world. Isn’t it time the film industry gets together and comes out with authentic figures for the sake of its audience who they are answerable to?
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/hindi/bollywood/box-office/box-office-figures-who-can-you-trust/articleshow/57001593.cms
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February 6, 2017 at 10:48 AM
http://www.filmcompanion.in/article/why-you-cant-trust-bollywood-box-office-numbers?utm_content=buffere3308&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer
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February 6, 2017 at 11:02 AM
Dangal crosses 30m$ in overseas.
30m$ overseas movies.
Aamir-3
Rest-NIL
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February 6, 2017 at 11:27 AM
Probably PINK was only movie where producers number was lower than estimates from BOI and others ….
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February 6, 2017 at 11:30 AM
Magic
Priceless
Stardom
koi to rok lo
Kuch to Baat hai!
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February 6, 2017 at 5:47 PM
He is very likeable with out sounding too brash or pompous. Also he comes across very genuine in his interviews & media interactions which aids to his charm. Industry needs Akshay as his model is very crucial for industry to survive in such difficult times where only 10 to 12 films becoming clean hits with more than 200 releases in a year & out of these 10, Akshay has 3 this year!! He is mixing it up very well by not sticking to one specific genre as he used to do earlier by doing just comdies.
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February 6, 2017 at 12:04 PM
Just leave #Raees, Rakesh Roshan Calculator is beating #Dangal too..
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February 6, 2017 at 12:14 PM
OMG!
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February 6, 2017 at 12:41 PM
yeah and on day 13 it will be 15 cr – on planet called la-la-land owned entirely by RR đ
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February 6, 2017 at 12:05 PM
BMCM was second highest grosser of 1998 and we know this all through years … and even BOI had same on their site … only till last year when they slide it down to 4th place … This is ridiculous …. First of all getting data of movies before 2000 in accuracy level of few lakhs is just impossible … but there was always a ranking based on gross and trade guide and film information had put BMCM on second spot at gross level (though verdict was lower due to less profit shares) ..
http://boxofficeindia.com/years.php?year=1998&pageId=4
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February 6, 2017 at 12:15 PM
One of my favourite movies.
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February 6, 2017 at 12:12 PM
@pktalli and @raj,finally an update on
dangal UK bo -2.55mÂŁ till 5.2.17.
NA is 12.37m$,Gulf-8.77m$
If one believes this no.it is currently at no.4 in UK,top 3 are just very close to each other as per BOI(.com) nos though below update is of BOI.co.in.
#Dangal Territory till 5th Feb :- #USA : $12.37M, #UAE : 8.77M, #UK : ÂŁ2.55M, Aust : Au $2.62M, NZ : Nz $0.644m, Malaysia : MYR 0.604m #BOI
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February 6, 2017 at 12:25 PM
It is pretty obvious now that BOI has the most authentic numbers in the business. There numbers for Dangal match the producers numbers (and no one doubts it). There numbers for Raees and Kaabil are below and way below (in that order) the producers numbers and no one (outside of Red Chillies and Filmkraft) believes that the producers numbers are accurate. They do write some inane articles from time to time but I don’t see how someone can doubt there numbers for movies released within the past 8 or 9 years. Now the reports are coming that the film industry follows them as well. I would love to know who runs this website but its probably a good thing that they should remain anonymous.
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February 6, 2017 at 1:09 PM
Doesn’t seem to be you’ve read all the numbers and commentary from sites like Bollywood arena, addatoday, Indicine. I’m not an advocate of their numbers or comments, but they all have displayed estimated figures. All their ballpark figures for Raees are close to BOI. BUT for Kaabil they are pretty much average of BOI and producers.
Don’t be surprised when they continue to provide estimated figures that they will not track correctly for Hrithik, Akshay, Ajay or Amitabh films. That’s my gut feeling.
Even Wikipedia quotes BOI. I doubt Wikipedia does any due diligence, they just go with status quo. Anyway you and few others deserve some commission for promoting BOI numbers, it seems without reading what these other sites are saying.
Just read and put their Kaabil numbers here and put BOI next to it. I’m not defending FKF. Just calling a spade a spade.
PK and Dangal, along with other big films used Rentrak I believe…I won’t endorse that as I know very little about it. Maybe that system of tracking is good.
And I have a USB stick fully loaded of all centre figures from 06-09 that can derive estimated figures and I am sure they undercut Krrish.
I know the fans of BOI here, but read the articles on Kaabil.
Knowing the owners – it could be anyone! It could be me! Or Satyam or You or Krish. Heck knows.
Just remember anyone can be fooled. The UK voted out of Europe, America voted for Trump. Perfectly smart people can misread or be misconstrued. I’m actually surprised at a few here.
You have 3 sources claiming Kaabil to be close to a midpoint between BOI and producers, yet all of the pro- BOI flag bearers turn a blind eye to it, their sources as they claim are not too dissimilar to BOI.
I’m open minded, even BOI can convince me one day.
Working in financial services, it’s very easy to
A) start with a story or goal
B) use numbers and backward induct assumptions to arrive at that figure
C) hide those assumptions and build a story you want to satisfy what you want people to hear.
Heck anyone close enough to banking will know most recessional activity is through such misleading of numbers and fooling the naive.
Right now at face value if I take every data point for Kaabil, RR calculator and BOI calculator are outliers and Bollywood arena, addatoday and Indicine provide an average.
And BOI is open to more scrutiny then ever now as Indicine want to re-evaluate all their figures. You’ll get a long line of discrepancies with BOI. I’m sure the queue to work for BOI is still ripe but equally the opposite may happen.
It is better to just use everything available (if it matters to you) and make your own judgement.
One can sense a good film and good collections without reading too much. Akshay Kumar films have done well recently. BB is far superior to Sultan. Dangal’s murdered Sultan despite all things AGAINST.
Rajen wrote it first that BOI is dodgy on Kaabil and he’s bang on! He likes Hrithik, I don’t. Yes Rajen is a friend. But I don’t think it matters. Clearly doesn’t matter to those that know commentary at BOI is shite but have such belief on their numbers.
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February 6, 2017 at 1:21 PM
I have checked bollyarena and other websites and not really sure what the follow. They could be following BOI one day and producers the other day. I have never seen BOI follow the producers numbers (even in Dangal’s case where the numbers are pretty close). Also, all these new websites have popped up in the last year or so and BOI has been around for a little while. This should count for something. I wouldn’t compare BOI and indian box office to Brexit or Trump because those are world defining events and no matter how much I trust BOI, its still just a box office site. I have seen your model on NG and even here and see no issue there but you still got your territory numbers from Taran. I am not doubting your method…just that I can’t trust Taran with numbers.
I wouldn’t put much into Wikipedia following BOI as BOI is the most popular site for indian box office. Just like Wikipedia would follow boxofficemojo for US box office.
Also, why is everyone surprised that BOI’s numbers for Kaabil are off by so much? Same thing happened with Krrish and Papa Roshan was ridiculed everywhere for it. I don’t buy this argument for one minute that BOI is under reporting their number. For what? to show that Raees is winning? It’s not like their Raees numbers (or even commentary for that matter) will make SRK or RCE very happy. So much for their pro SRK bias.
Lastly, I wish I can get some commission from BOI or Aamir. These are the only two things I talk about on this forum.
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February 6, 2017 at 1:32 PM
Taran numbers were raw numbers from Trade.
You can always match it with Komal Nahta Film Information. Taran stopped posting numbers because he saw people like Jay can do better number crunching than trade analyst.
In fact at one time BOI was so insecure they started posting raw numbers.
There is no thing like Truth in Indian box office. If someone thinks BOI number is accurate then they are delusional. I do agree they have some consistency. But you have to take their numbers with pinch of salt on most accasions and sometimes with bucket of salt (OSO first week, HNY first day or the changing footfalls).
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February 6, 2017 at 1:41 PM
Please munna, I was doing basic stuff and even basics uncovered lots of things. I can do way more but I prefer to criticize and laugh more nowadays.
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February 6, 2017 at 1:47 PM
I am not saying you were doing something advance but people who don’t know mathematics will have tough time understanding extrapolation,correlation and matching movie model (CDI or TZP release is different than say OSO release).
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February 6, 2017 at 1:33 PM
FYI every Taran center number matched BOI, a large %. And I actually used BOI as my baseline. Anyone following my numbers with any ounce of smartness knew all I was doing was taking tarans bat and BOI’S ball and playing cricket in BOI’s stadium and smacking 6’s. Sometimes I got a golden duck.
Sometimes you sleep with or befriend the enemy to uncover the deceit. People who knew this knew the game.
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February 6, 2017 at 3:10 PM
I miss our BO column!!
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February 6, 2017 at 4:04 PM
Those were the days!
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February 6, 2017 at 1:27 PM
Anyone can change Wikipedia. You can change it to point it to Papa Roshan numbers.
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February 8, 2017 at 1:07 AM
Just for a quick comment, I know Indicine even before I started commenting on NG (and SS), they don’t have sources enough to estimate all India figure. In fact, that was just a random blog few years back. they have definitely matured and may have links with few distributors, but, no way they can estimate on all India basis. Same holds true for other sites.
They most probably took BOI number and twist it here and there a bit.
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February 8, 2017 at 1:16 AM
V difficult in current scenario to get authenticate nos. Its very people and links (pehchaan) dependent so pretty easy to tweak nos. any which way. Only industry and producers can come together and form a uniform system that needs to be followed by all. But not everyone would be willing. So have to live with it until Modi does something :P…lol
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February 8, 2017 at 1:39 AM
Not sure abt authenticity of Indicine as i am unaware of their history. But i followed bollyarena during dangal and was pretty impressed the way they came up with early estimates each day before any other source like boi or producer total. And they were always on the mark.
I doubt if that is possible without proper contacts and access to enough sample raw data.
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February 8, 2017 at 3:22 AM
For lifetime predictions.
http://www.indicine.com/movies/bollywood/indicinelbo-2016-lifetime-box-office-predictions/
For first day predictions
http://www.indicine.com/fbo/
I think people unpredict what is possible. Now their predictions do go wrong, but there is more green than red in general. To be able to predict one must have some basis. I DO NOT ENDORSE INDICINE BTW. I’m just countering what you’re saying. All their predictions are before BOI has even posted a figure.
Many things are possible;
BOI is most authentic
Producer is most authentic
These satellite sites have access to film information or trade guide (? If they still exist) and can become authentic
There is no such thing as authentic
Authentic is deciphering through all the sources and getting an overall picture of the story
To blankly say one is more than other without knowing their mechanism is very black and white view. None of the people saying this would put serious money on it! Let alone their lives!!!
Because how can you prove it?
Even when I wrote columns I tracked BOI. It’s basic rules of business, you follow any source and distinguish outliers and use judgement to benchmark against a good average.
As munna pointed out I used what I would call basic extrapolation techniques, but for some that would be WOW, others it could understandable, others could easily conjure up better things and add conjectures or huge disclaimer to my methods.
Heck even I could. Correlation, modelling, forecasting, sum of squares, linear regression (zzzzzz as I write this), statistical tools, means, standard deviation, variance, confidence intervals, normal distribution curves, hypothesis testing, spearman’s rank etc etc are all things I studied and could use to get or refine more precision. It’s not how a Saturday morning should start!
Bollywood arena admittedly said they track BOI. This to me means something different then to you. To you and others it means they authenticate BOI and plus or minus 0.5 CR here or there to perpetuate themselves as distinguishable and another authentic source. But I interpret tracking as 1) I have a mechanical way to predict 2) I am uncertain and lack confidence in that method 3) I’ll compare it to something else off the shelf and if I’m in range I’m happy 4) By continually doing this overtime I learn, refine and become more accurate.
Btw as Marcus points out a lot of these sites predict daily collections and they are not widely off until FKP OR RCE arrive. They must have sources and no one can tell me for sure who has the best, cleanest and most sound method of box office numbers… Whoever is frankly don’t know what they are talking about or what propaganda they are endorsing.
To be blunt anyone authenticating BOI, IBOS, Jayshah, Indicine, Addatoday, Bollywood arena, producers really are just adding a huge disclaimer to their own judgement. I absolved myself from this list as I had no disclaimer, I was transparent. You took it or you left it.
But realistically the only authentic number is when the expected outcome = actual outcome. The latter is never disclosed by private companies, public ones I presume have an obligation to give some details. The tax man is another source, but even here big companies like Starbucks can be clever in disguising their tax obligations.
It’s a murky world. If one used prescriptive nice language like BOI is directionally correct than fine as that’s expected outcome language. But when one says it is the most accurate or ‘spot on’ one is entering actual outcome territory.
BOI isn’t even Hawkeye or ball tracking, it’s more like the umpire raising it’s finger. Even the line judges in tennis are more precise consistently. BOI is like a football referee (read soccer you yanks), making dubious decisions every week! And don’t get me started or verdict changes! LOL! How is it possible to make one verdict many years ago and have a new verdict now? And people believe this bubblegum website!
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February 8, 2017 at 3:46 AM
Very aptly put Jay! No point in saying one is better than another. Its best to look at all the sources and get a rough idea abt whats really going on. One can then arrive at a range in which the actual collections may be in. Indian BO will remain a mess until everything is computerised, which is far far away. Without infrastructure even agencies like rentrak cant help the situation here.
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February 6, 2017 at 1:44 PM
Your first line is assumption. Even Bollyarena and addatoday daily estimates before the official release were near the Dangal numbers. That doesn’t mean they are right.
Why the numbers are so well rounded? 15 (or 15.5) crore. not 14.98 or 15.02 crore. I know they are estimates but where is the precision (if they are doing mathematics by any mean).
I think where BOI does manipulation or adjusting is daily numbers. They may have say .25-0.50 crore less or more, so next day they may add/subtract it. In end it will be near producers numbers. But if you don’t do that your error will keep adding and you will be far from producer’s number. It is where they have choice to do or not.
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February 6, 2017 at 2:03 PM
The reason numbers are not THAT accurate is because BOI is not rentrak. I don’t know if there will EVER be a time when indian box office numbers will be as accurate as the one in US. The way things work in india with single screens, tax issues, actors being friendly with distributors…not sure we will ever have a system that everyone can trust.
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February 6, 2017 at 2:07 PM
That is true even with regards to raw numbers, but chances of bias is less at that point than when it is coming from BOI or producers.
http://www.etintelligence.com/etig/researchchannels/sectors/mediaBollywoodTracker.jsp
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February 7, 2017 at 3:07 AM
This is quite good really. However limited with only 6 multiplex chains. Hopefully more multiplexes will be included in future.
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February 6, 2017 at 4:21 PM
I find it amusing BOI’s numbers are the LOWEST out there for Kaabil and those are the likeliest to be most precise! If they were in the average zone I could understand. Raees upto Sunday on BOI is fine, probably fine all way through as the average amongst those estimating (excluding producers) is in range.
Anyway no more blabbering from me, both have underperformed but are setting Dangal standards combined according to producers!
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February 6, 2017 at 1:39 PM
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February 6, 2017 at 4:00 PM
I think this whole debate around authenticity of the Boxoffice Figures can be easily overcome by doing 2 things;
1. Some Agency needs to connect with the Central Excise and State Level Tax Departments to verify per film earnings from the Taxation of the movies. These are publicly available figures but not sure without RTI can be released or not. When we will know how much Tax a particular movie collected in its run, that should give us a clear picture.
2. How can producers say they earned 100 crores and not be scrutinized by Tax Agency for the ET ? Unless to boost their ego they are also paying Taxation to back these excessive numbers.
I saw that everyone talking about Rentrak which is now part of ComScore, its centralized and integrated. Its easier for them to integrate PVR, INOX , Satyam etc the chains which have Printed Ticketing and Computerized collections. For Single Screen who still sell cheap quality hand written tickets, there’s lot of room to fudge numbers.
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February 6, 2017 at 11:23 PM
TOI report on actual n inflated numbers and also about not a singke authenthic board to count real collections..
Box-Office Collection: Who can you trust?
http://toi.in/IQCQmb/a19li
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February 7, 2017 at 12:16 AM
More on the debate on BO numbers:
https://www.bollyarena.net/bollywood-box-office-collection-and-manipulation/
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February 7, 2017 at 12:43 AM
This is a reasonable article and i tend to agree with their estimates on the controversial films. BOI numbers are fishy for some films. Its really good to now have the likes of bollyarena and indicine to give their own estimates.
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February 8, 2017 at 3:36 AM
” Box Office India (the collections from which Bolly Arena follows as well) ”
I don’t think indicine, bollyarena or addatoday have much tracking or links with distributors. May be couple of distributors and using bookmyshow they simply throw numbers. They change their numbers too often throughout the day to be taken seriously. And finally all their numbers are closer to BOI
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February 7, 2017 at 12:17 AM
Don’t know why RGV delaying Sarkar 3 promotions …. if idea is to release on 17th March then promotion should start right now … Minimum 1.5 month of publicity is must ..
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February 7, 2017 at 1:54 AM
Sarkar 3 is a non starter. Don’t know why BigB is doing it at this stage. Sarkar was the only one worth seeing. Rest one can see ON TVs when it comes. BigB films any way is the most repeatedly run after Akshay Kumar’s movie on satellite.
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February 7, 2017 at 3:31 AM
Ramu is businessman – Production budget of Sarkar 3 must be 10 cr – out of give 5 cr to Big B – shot in local locations and in 30 days flat (that is how the entire South industry works – very disciplined) – publicity etc go for hell – he can easily sell this product on Big B’s name to distributors in a moderate 30-35 cr – add this some rights like TV etc – another 20-30 cr – so pocket a cool profit of 20-30 cr and move on đ do u think Ramu cares for making a good cinema anymore?????
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February 7, 2017 at 8:54 AM
If this is true than Amitabh is a damn fool for taking just 5 CR. If his name is the ONLY thing selling the movie than he should be demanding 50% profit.
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February 7, 2017 at 9:15 AM
Pls do not forget, BigB has already entered the Fixed Investment and Steady Return Club. He tried Growth strategies in the 90s, it bankrupted him.
So, at the age of 70+, a tangible fee of 5cr is much better than 50% share of 0.00 cr!
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February 7, 2017 at 9:41 AM
Amitabh is one of the topmost earners in India. I doubt that 5 CR makes that much difference to him. The reason I brought up profit is that it makes no sense for him to just charge 5 CR for a movie when it’s being sold at a really high price just based on his name. Maybe profit is the wrong word. Whatever RGV is getting for this movie (theatre, sattelite etc…), Bachchan should demand 50%.
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February 7, 2017 at 10:17 AM
not sure if he has really charged 5cr,
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February 7, 2017 at 12:43 AM
A Division Bench of Justice S.S. Shinde and Justice K.K. Sonawane also ordered the Central Board of Film Certification to certify the film afresh after implementing the cuts in the Akshay Kumar starrer.
The order follows a report by a court-appointed three-member committee of experts, comprising Senior Advocates R.N. Dhorde and V.J. Dixit and medico Dr Prakash Kanade, petitioner-lawyer Ajaykumar Waghmare said from Nanded.
The committee viewed the film last Friday in Aurangabad and submitted its two-page report stating that a particular scene is âdefamatory to the lawyersâ profession and would be contempt of courtâ.
Bombay HC orders four cuts, fresh certification for ‘Jolly LLB 2’
Bombay HC orders four cuts, fresh certification for âJolly LLB 2â
They added that the visual or words also involved âdefamation of the body of lawyers and undermines the dignity of lawyers and courtsâ.
After taking the report on record, the judges ordered that the scenes objected to by the committee should be deleted and that the CBFC should re-certify the film, Waghmare said.
âThis is a historic and significant order concerning any film in the country. It is also a lesson to the CBFC which certified the film during the pendency of the PIL, indicating some malpractices,â Waghmare told IANS.
The scenes ordered to be deleted include the ones in which a judge is shown crouching behind the dias, hurling of a shoe at a judge and an objectionable dialogue.
The lawyers representing the filmmakers agreed to the necessary cuts/modifications.
The filmâs producers, Fox Star Studios, had challenged before the Supreme Court the January 27 ruling of the Bombay High Court to appoint the three-member.
The Supreme Court on Friday refused to put on hold the screening of âJolly LLB 2â before the three-member panel and allowed the committee to preview the film and ascertain whether the said scenes denigrated the judiciary in any manner.
Slated for release on February 10, âJolly LLB 2â is a courtroom drama starring Akshay Kumar, Huma Qureshi, Annu Kapoor and Saurabh Shukla, and is written and directed by Subhash Kapoor.
http://www.koimoi.com/bollywood-news/bombay-hc-orders-deletion-of-4-scenes-from-akshays-jolly-llb-2/
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February 7, 2017 at 2:11 AM
No reference to Lucknow in LLB2
http://www.dnaindia.com/entertainment/report-no-reference-to-lucknow-in-jolly-llb-2-central-board-2314105
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February 7, 2017 at 2:18 AM
Quite a bizzarre turn of events!!!
This time court decides code of conduct
http://www.ndtv.com/india-news/with-4-scenes-cut-akshay-kumars-jolly-llb-2-to-release-on-friday-1656777?pfrom=home-lateststories
The Bombay High Court’s stance is a far cry from its ruling of June last year when it overturned 12 cuts that the CBFC had made to “Udta Punjab”, a film depicting drug addiction. It told the film board not to be “over-sensitive”.
The case is an unusual twist on censorship in the country, where courts have instructed India’s censorship board to reinstate scenes that it has deleted — not the other way round.
“We had no objection with the film and gave it a certificate. It’s a movie for entertainment and is fiction,” Censor Board chairman Pahlaj Nihalani said.
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February 7, 2017 at 2:32 AM
Now they cant even appeal to SC.
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February 7, 2017 at 1:41 AM
Raees Second Monday Business
Tuesday 07 February 2017 11.30 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
Raees grossed 1.50 crore nett on its second Monday to take its total to 13 crore nett in four days of the second week and 123 crore nett all together. The film will cross the business of last years Republic Day week release Airlift today and despite an under performance that will make it the highest grossing film released in the month of January. It has a lot to with the fact that big films don’t really release in January or even in the first half of the year.
The film caught up with Kaabil again on Monday as Raees has more single screens and they tend to collect better on Monday and the shortfall it has in multiplexes gets covered by the single screens. The business of Raees till date is as follows.
First Week – 1,10,05,00,000 (nine days)
Friday – 2,75,00,000
Saturday – 4,00,00,000
Sunday – 4,75,00,000
Monday – 1,50,00,000
Second Weekend – 13,00,00,000 apprx
TOTAL – 1,23,05,00,000 apprx
The second week of the film looks to be heading towards 17 crore nett which will take the film to around 127 crore nett and a final total in the vicinity of 130 crore nett. Dilwale release last Christmas grossed 140 crore nett over that holiday period with a clash. .
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February 7, 2017 at 2:07 AM
Except Aamir and Salman, all other stars are struggling to go past 150. SRK has done only once with Chennai Express and it might remain his highest gross ever.
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February 7, 2017 at 3:14 AM
HNY was also there. And with solo release I think his movies like Dilwale, Raees etc can still easily gross around 160-180crrs. But Salman and Aamir are in altogether different league now and I don’t see anyone reaching that level in next few years at least. Among newcomers Ranbir is struggling to give 100crrs and Ranveer’s movies only work with Slb+Deepika combo.
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February 7, 2017 at 2:34 AM
Akshay Kumar to don a dhoti in ‘Gold’
Akshay Kumar has always sported different looks for his films. He has even cut his hair as required by the characters. Now for Reema Kagtiâs biopic Gold where he reprises the role of Indiaâs legendary hockey striker, captain and coach of yesteryear, Balbir Singh Sr, the actor will wear a dhoti-kurta in the entire film. The period drama is about India winning the first Olympic medal as an independent country in 1948, at the 14th Olympiad in London. Akshay has worn a dhoti-kurta in his earlier films, but this is the first time he will be wearing the outfit throughout a film. Shooting for the film starts mid this year.
http://www.dnaindia.com/entertainment/report-akshay-kumar-to-don-a-dhoti-in-gold-2312991
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February 7, 2017 at 2:37 AM
This is somewhat risky.
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February 7, 2017 at 2:43 AM
Judwaa 2 first look: Varun Dhawanâs stepping into Salmanâs shoes, can he deliver?
BOLLYWOOD Updated: Feb 07, 2017 10:55 IST
HT Correspondent
HT Correspondent
Hindustan Times
Judwaa 2 first look
Varun Dhawan steps into the shoes of Salman Khan with Judwaa 2, sequel to the 1997 hit film.
Varun Dhawan shared the first look of his much-awaited David Dhawan film, Judwaa 2 Tuesday morning.
He tweeted the first look of the film, revealing heâs playing Raja and Prem, the double role Salman Khan made famous in the original film in 1997. The sequel too will have Varun playing two diametrically opposite characters: Prem, a suit clad, bespectacled well-mannered NRI, and Raja, a long-haired Mumbai âtaporiâ.
Directed by David Dhawan and produced by Sajid Nadiadwala, the shooting for Judwaa 2 began this weekend. The film also has Jacqueline Fernandez and Taapsee Pannu play the roles made famous by Karisma Kapoor and Rambha in the original. Reports suggest that Salman may make a guest appearance in Judwaa 2.
Varun Dhawan to start shooting Judwaa 2 on 20th anniversary of Judwaa
The sequel has retained two of Anu Malikâs hit songs from the original film: Chalti Hai Kya Nau Se Barah and Oonchi Hai Building.
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February 7, 2017 at 2:45 AM
http://www.hindustantimes.com/bollywood/judwaa-2-first-look-varun-dhawan-s-stepping-into-salman-s-shoes-can-he-deliver/story-8gUcw742YFMEEUcU18212O.html
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February 7, 2017 at 7:17 PM
Man….im getting old. All I remember about Judwaa is that Sallu needed this hit after being in a slump for a couple years. He went onto having a huge two years before entering another slump.
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February 7, 2017 at 4:30 AM
Kaabil Second Monday Business
Tuesday 07 February 2017 13.00 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
Kaabil (Hindi) grossed 1.50 crore nett on its second Monday to takes it to total to 79 crore nett. Its not a bad drop considering that it grossed 4 crore nett last Monday which is a 62.50% drop. Although the drop is not bad the collections definitely are and the film is going nowhere. The only achievement it will have if it can be called that is that it will beat the collections of Raees in week two but it will only be around 50 lakhs nett plus.
The second week for Kaabil is heading for around 17.50 crore nett which will take its two week total to 83.25 crore and from there it may add another 3-4 crore nett for a 86-87 crore nett finish. The business of Kaabil till date is as follows.
First Week – 65,74,00,000 (nine days)
Friday – 2,50,00,000
Saturday – 4,00,00,000
Sunday – 5,25,00,000
Monday – 1,50,00,000
Second Weekend – 13,25,00,000 apprx
TOTAL – 78,99,00,000 apprx
Kaabil was also released in Tamil and Telugu and will finish its run with around 3 crore nett which is a similar ratio to Dangal as per its Hindi business at around 3.5%. Both films have grossed around 3.5% of its Hindi version in Tamil and Telugu but obviously Kaabil at much lower levels.
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February 7, 2017 at 5:26 AM
http://www.thehindu.com/entertainment/movies/Jolly-LLB-2-producer-accepts-cuts-withdraws-appeal-from-SC/article17233242.ece?homepage=true
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February 7, 2017 at 6:53 AM
Jackie Chan, Disha Patani Starrer Kung Fu Yoga Tops Chinese Box Office
By Koimoi.com Team -February 7, 2017
Hong Kong action star Jackie Chan and Bollywood actor Sonu Sood-starrer âKung Fu Yoga,â part of a three-film pact signed between India and China, is ruling the Chinese box office.
According to China Film News, the movie topped the Chinese box office in the week ending on February 5, earning 963 million yuan ($ 140 million), reports Xinhua news agency.
Domestic fantasy movie âJourney to the West: The Demons Strike Backâ landed in the second place for the week, taking 822 million yuan. It has grossed 1.4 billion yuan since its release on January 28.
âDuckweed,â a domestic adventure film directed by writer Han Han, was placed third in the week with sales revenue of 503 million yuan.
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February 7, 2017 at 8:13 AM
BOI has not mentioned Dangal in its 2016 Hitlist:
http://www.boxofficeindia.com/hit-down.php?txtYearlyData=2010-2019&year=2016
And not even in the list for 2017, yet Raees is already there!!:
http://www.boxofficeindia.com/hit-down.php?txtYearlyData=2010-2019&year=2017
Guess, they just forgot about Dangal. Kya karein, it was just a script based movie with some sidey starcast.
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February 8, 2017 at 12:18 AM
They must be in tears after finally declaring Fan a flop!
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February 7, 2017 at 8:24 AM
Dangal trailer is just abt to get 50million views,first for a bollywood trailer.it seems even raees wld do it within few days.
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February 7, 2017 at 10:14 AM
50million,wow…and Raees was a record breaker though..
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February 7, 2017 at 8:34 AM
And here is MithunDa. As per BOI, he had 50 consecutive Disasters and Flops between 1998-2005!
http://www.boxofficeindia.com/actor.php?actorid=57
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February 7, 2017 at 5:13 PM
And he starred in Sultaan which flopped in 2000
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February 7, 2017 at 9:46 PM
Actually many of these movies made money in interiors .. between 1995-2000 .. Mithun model was to make movie in budget of 30-35 Lakhs and target was to earn from ‘C’ and ‘D’ grade centers … no trade analyst can get numbers from those small talkies , BOI ke to bilkul aukaat ke bahar ki baat hai …. If you notice most of movies are from common team , no one is mad to produce 50 disasters in row … these movies made money, it is just that profits were small and from theaters who never reveal collections.
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February 7, 2017 at 10:08 PM
Surely last 8-10 movies must have made losses .. that’s why that stint ended by that time
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February 7, 2017 at 8:59 AM
All said and done, Raees will end at 130-135 cr range and Kaabil will make 95-100 cr by the end of its run. BOI will be 10 cr or so less in case of Kaabil (under-reporting).
Both are under-performers. Even with the clash they should have comfortably crossed 150 cr and 100 cr respectively. 2017 has started with first 2 big films turning out to be disappointments.
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February 7, 2017 at 9:31 AM
Need new posts for Badrinath ki Dulhaniya and Phillauri trailors
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February 7, 2017 at 9:36 AM
Johar’s year as a producer has not started very well. Ok Jaanu flopped and now all eyes on Badrinath, which to me looks like a rehash of some of Yash Raj’s own films like Shuddh Desi Romance and Band Baaja Baarat.
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February 7, 2017 at 9:47 AM
yeah but it will sail through smoothly. OK Jaanu had casting problems – they should have retained the very beautiful and talented Nithya Menon – what is that lady doing in South? She needs a proper bollywood launch – none of the present bollywood heroines is a patch on her kind of talent……
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February 7, 2017 at 9:51 AM
Bahubali 2 will more than makeup for all of his production failures!
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February 7, 2017 at 10:28 AM
Amitabh Bachchan â@SrBachchan 9h9 hours ago
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@kamaalrkhan this is was my response when KRK saw trailer of Sarkar 3, liked it and predicted it to be a HIT !! lets hope so !!??
Amitabh Bachchan’s last release Pink became a surpise hit and he moved on to his next – Ram Gopal Varma’s Sarkaar. Most of the principal shooting for the film is complete and the team has cut out a trailer as well.
While it’s not known when the theatrical promo will be launched, someone has already watched the trailer.And you won’t believe who is one of the first people to see it! KRK!
Yes, Big B and Kamaal Rashid Khan’s Twitter exchange proves that KRK was one of the first few to watch the trailer and not just that, he even predicted that the film will be a huge HIT.
KRK put out a screenshot of the text message Big B sent to him, thanking him for his kind prediction and soon enough, Amit ji tweeted explaining the context of the text. Read all of it here:
http://www.dnaindia.com/entertainment/report-guess-who-was-one-of-the-first-few-to-watch-amitabh-bachchan-s-sarkaar-3-trailer-2315182
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February 7, 2017 at 10:33 AM
Sarkar 3 predicted super-hit KRK..we saw Raees trailer and broke all youtube record then when the film released it just went flat like a coca cola bottle lid half-open..we shall see if the lid stays sealed even after the release…looking forward for this sequel ..only disadvantage is RGV himself,such a big let down…
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February 7, 2017 at 12:19 PM
Why would a legend like Bachchan talk to a d-bag like KRK?
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February 7, 2017 at 10:40 AM
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February 7, 2017 at 10:44 AM
Raees is at 2.8m$ in NA,5.3m$ in Gulf,wld hardly do 4m$ in NA,while gulf is very good,shld do 7-7.5m$ there.Inspite of it’s better Performance,it wld fall way short even in gulf as dangal’s last update was 8.77m$ in gulf.UK is shockingly low at 1.2mpound as i believe this is probably the only circuit where SRK still rules.
Dangal has crossed 3MA$ in Aus,has beaten PK by leaps and bounds with 45%.Raees is at 1.1MA$ at the moment.
If u can analyse the analogy of overseas circuits with domestic circuit,then u can infer the following.
1.NA behaves more or less like Mumbai.both r not only the biggest circuits,Aamir is clear no.1 in both.Both circuits decide the overall fate in domestic/overseas.
2.Gulf behaves like bihar.Massy films do well there and sallu rules in both though Gulf is comparatively a bigger circuit and sallu’s dominance is lesser in gulf.
3.Aus behaves like Mysore.Both r classiest circuits and Aamir is like 1-5 in both,his movies tend to outperform in both circuits.
4.UK behaves like Delhi/UP.Star power works in both and SRK rules in UK,though same can’t be said abt Delhi/UP at the moment.
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February 7, 2017 at 7:28 PM
I am kindly requesting that this constant comparison between Raees and Dangal be stopped! The point can be made in one comment…hell the point has been made last week. Its too much now. I realize it is a box office thread but no need to drag Dangal into every Raees convo.
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February 7, 2017 at 10:49 AM
uk is ÂŁ1.2 million..that is low as uk is srk strong hold..Dangal was ÂŁ4 miillion..
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February 7, 2017 at 10:51 AM
Vijay,Indeed UK is SRK’s strongest hold,dangal is at ÂŁ2.56 miillion,shld end at max ÂŁ2.57 million in UK.
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February 7, 2017 at 10:57 AM
50 million youtube views for dngal trailer,first bollywood trailer,raees is at 48.1 million.
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February 7, 2017 at 10:59 AM
wow,amir khan is replacing srk in all departments…amazing
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February 7, 2017 at 11:03 AM
i didn’t get what u mean by departments.
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February 7, 2017 at 11:14 AM
departments of srk has the dominance…did you get it?
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February 7, 2017 at 11:26 AM
OK.
Why is BOI not giving an update on dangal in overseas,WW,Footfalls.it seems dangal is going to get a wide release in china,talks are on.let’s hope for the best.
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February 7, 2017 at 11:50 AM
aamirsaurab,
if when is is released in china it will surely do more then Pk..
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February 7, 2017 at 12:06 PM
pk did 17m$ in china,not sure if dangal can do that much as dangal is very indian,though cld do 7-8m$ atleast.Let’s see but release is gonna happen for sure.
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February 7, 2017 at 11:11 AM
This is fu#$ing hilarious…..this guy is putting KRK’s Desh Drohi to shame!
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February 7, 2017 at 3:24 PM
and he has millions of followers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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February 7, 2017 at 6:18 PM
This is blasphemy by reducing his billions of followers to just millions !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Be ready to face the dire consequences in the form of “BABA’S” next titled “Mera Badla Arabon lenge” (Billions will take my revenge : Eng. Title) as it would be the biggest worldwise release ever by releasing in every country as all of them inhabit “Insaans”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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February 7, 2017 at 12:05 PM
Shah Rukh Khanâs next film to be titled âRehnumaâ
Tuesday 7 February 2017 | 5:09 AM | By Swati
Superstar Shah Rukh Khan who is basking in the glory of his latest success âRaaesâ is also excited about his upcoming film opposite Anushka Sharma. Directed by Imtiaz Ali, the film is lined up for release this year.
Earlier, Salman had already announced the release date of the film, ie. 11th August, but now the official name of the film has been declared. The film which was tentatively titled âThe Ringâ has been now renamed to âRehnumaâ.
The word, âRehnumaâ means guide or leader in Urdu, and will have SRK essaying the role of one as well. The film has been shot in Prague and deals with Anushkaâs character who is on a mission to unearth a lost engagement ring. Though we all know Imitiazâs fascination for English words in his filmâs name, but this SRK movie will be called âRehnumaâ and not âRingâ.
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February 7, 2017 at 12:12 PM
Satyam bhai,but it’s an old news,rehnuma title was decided many days back.
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February 7, 2017 at 12:25 PM
It is said to be not a very good title..not easily understandable.
But its better than the ring, especially with The Hollywood Ring coming up! đ
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February 7, 2017 at 12:45 PM
Netizens are pouring support to OPS. Atlast he spoke. Better late than never.
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February 7, 2017 at 1:00 PM
http://www.koimoi.com/bollywood-news/brand-new-romantic-poster-of-phillauri-ft-anushka-diljit-dosanjh/
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February 7, 2017 at 1:06 PM
Rajkumar Hirani confirmed Munnabhai 3 is on the works and will be his next after Dutt biopic đ
Hope he does a sequel to 3 Idiots after that!
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February 7, 2017 at 1:44 PM
I have zero interest in 3I sequel. Aamir is the only star right now who has not done a sequel to his own movie and I want him to keep it this way. No SQLs.
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February 7, 2017 at 2:02 PM
He definitely should avoid sequels.
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February 7, 2017 at 7:32 PM
I am all for a PK sequel with RK as the lead and Aamir showing up in bits and parts…but that will never happen.
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February 7, 2017 at 10:23 PM
How about PK sequel with Akshay Kumar and Paresh Rawal?
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February 8, 2017 at 11:10 AM
OMG! what an idea!
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February 7, 2017 at 1:24 PM
Where is apex?
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February 8, 2017 at 12:22 AM
Will make a triumphant return after Kaabil surpasses Talaash đ
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February 8, 2017 at 12:42 AM
BOI is calling Talaash a Semi Hit and Dhobhi Ghat Below Average. However they are calling MP a Flop now. They had it as Average/Below Average earlier not so long ago I remember. Did we go back in 2005 and something got changed??? They keep changing history if and when they feel like. If they don’t know then they shouldn’t post it. It’s sad state of affairs that BOI is the most trusted site for bollywood BO.
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February 8, 2017 at 6:54 AM
BOI changes their verdicts regularly, but Mangal Pandey was no way a flop. It did not lose money for anyone involved. Even Aamir in one of his interviews emphasized that there was no financial losses involved with MP. Of course that does not make it a success, but calling it a flop is going too far.
From Lagaan till Dangal, Aamir has not delivered any flops.
MP and Talaash were underperformers. And DCH was a metro-hit only. Apart from that everything was clean hits that went out of the park – Lagaan (Hit), RDB (Superhit), Fanaa (Superhit), TZP (Superhit), Ghajini (ATBB), 3 Idiots (ATBB), Dhoom 3 (ATBB), PK (ATBB) & Dangal (ATBB).
Its a stellar arc and can beat any arc of any superstar for any duration if one considers both the quality content and BO results of most of these films.
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February 8, 2017 at 6:56 AM
Not counting Dhobi Ghat as it was not a commercial film.
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February 7, 2017 at 1:28 PM
http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/Attack-on-Bhansali-threatens-creativity-Jaya-Bachchan-in-Rajya-Sabha/article17236313.ece?homepage=true
Intolerance is growing in the country and a âselect fewâ assume that they represent the masses, the Samajwadi Party MP says.
The alleged assault on Director Sanjay Leela Bhansali and his crew on the sets of âPadmavatiâ figured in Rajya Sabha on Tuesday with actress-turned-politician Jaya Bachchan saying the incident has threatened creativity.
Raising the issue in the House during the Zero Hour, she said intolerance is growing in the country and a âselect fewâ assume that they represent the masses, âunder certain political patronage,â and take law and order in their hands.
They have no respect for constitutional values or the law of the land.
Ms. Bachchan (SP) said the film fraternity, which strives to bring fictional stories to people through creativity for the sole purpose of entertainment with some moral and social message, has been the âsoft target for these anti-social elements.â
âSometime they are threatened, sometime films are not allowed be screened, sets are vandalised and sometimes it takes a violent turn as it happened in Jaipur recently,â she noted.
â…Sets of Padmavati, where Rajput Karni Sena not only physically assaulted the Director Sanjay Leela Bhansali, but also damaged the expensive film equipments,â she said.
Mr. Bhansali, she said, is a renowned director who had made great films and added that he had also staged the âsame subject of Padmavatiâ as an opera in a Paris theatre in 2008.
Ms. Bachchan further said, neither the State government, nor the Centre has condemned the incident or taken action against the culprits.
âWhat message are we sending to the film fraternity which is one of the most important and vibrant ambassador of the country. Creativity should not be subjected to such treatment,â she said and demanded strong action against those involved in the incident.
Ms. Bachchan said the film fraternity has long been fighting the menace with little or no support from the government.
The film industry creates large number of employment opportunities and such disruptions, she said, affects the earnings of the sector.
Last month, Mr. Bhansali was allegedly roughed up by members of a Rajput community group, who also stopped the shooting of the film by damaging the set at Jaigarh Fort, alleging that the director was âdistorting factsâ in the movie which is about Alauddin Khiljiâs obsession with Rani Padmavati.
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February 7, 2017 at 2:59 PM
After the complexities of keeping up with comments of Myselfaamir, Aamirfan, Aamirsaurabh and between a Raj5 & RajRoshan, we now have a Cooldude & Coolguy. If that were not enough there are also Vijay and Vijjie tooâŚâŚâŚI mean câmon!
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February 7, 2017 at 10:14 PM
https://www.google.co.in/amp/www.bollywoodlife.com/news-gossip/did-salman-khan-and-shah-rukh-khan-boycott-aamir-khan-dangal-success-party/amp/
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February 7, 2017 at 10:27 PM
Ranveer and Alia pair up for Farhan Akhtar-Ritesh Sidhwaniâs ‘Gully Boy’
Director Zoya Akhtar will also co-produce it under her banner
Zoya Akhtar’s next directorial venture, Gully Boy, will mark the outing of a new on-screen jodi. Ranveer Singh and Alia Bhatt have been finalised to play the leads in the film, which is being co-produced by Zoya’s recently-launched banner Tiger Baby and Ritesh Sidhwani and Farhan Akhtar’s Excel Entertainment. The shoot of the movie, we hear, will commence this November. With it being Ranveer-Alia’s first big-screen outing together, the project has already started generating buzz. The title further piques our interest. For more on the project, keep watching this space.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/hindi/bollywood/news/ranveer-alia-pair-up-for-farhan-riteshs-gully-boy/articleshow/57019664.cms
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February 7, 2017 at 11:55 PM
Great comment Livewire about name confusion..One from me..Vijay hajare and Vijay Merchant in on the crease. Wasim Raja and Wasim bari on the pitch.
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February 8, 2017 at 10:53 AM
No one in the history of Bwood could come up with such rib tickling stuff. Simple reason being, one had to be extremely proficient in the English Language to actually do that piece of comedy. Not sure any of our past or present heroes can match BigB at his command of the Queens language.
The exact opposite of this piece was this bit in Khudaar where he does not know English:
And I dont think any Khan, Kumar, Siddiqui, Kher, Shah et al can match this comic ingenuity of Amitabh. All the kids and teenies on this site should issue a rebuttal if they can.
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February 8, 2017 at 11:01 AM
I don’t agree with AB being most proficient.Dev Anand i have heard was great with english and some say even his total thought process was in english.
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February 8, 2017 at 11:04 AM
Absolutely, one can imagine a million headshakes of Dev Anand while mouthing those dialogs.
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February 8, 2017 at 4:21 PM
Rajamouli’s Mahabharat to star Aamir, Rajinikant, Mohanlal
http://indianexpress.com/article/entertainment/bollywood/ss-rajamouli-aamir-khan-mohanlal-rajinikanth-baahubali-4514263/
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February 8, 2017 at 3:51 PM
Also, the fact that the English but was ad libbed:
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February 8, 2017 at 11:12 PM
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February 8, 2017 at 1:29 AM
Arshad Warsi, who will reprise the much-loved character of Circuit in the third film in the Munnabhai franchise, said the script for the third installment is ready.
âRajkumar Hirani spoke to me. He gave an idea about the story and it is just superb. The story is very much relevant in todayâs time. The script is ready,â he said during a press conference for his upcoming film Irada on Tuesday.
Asked about the shooting schedule of the film, he said: âAs soon as the biopic (Sanjay Duttâs) is done, we will start shooting it in 2018.â
‘Munnabhai 3’ script ready, superb story: Arshad Warsi
âMunnabhai 3â script ready, superb story: Arshad Warsi
Talking about the film, the 48-year-old actor said, âYou will soon see the same innocent idiots coming up with a social issue once again. They will make you see the world we want to see. The film will be very sweet and lovely.â
The actor who is known for his cheerful appearance expressed, âSense of humour is the best thing in the world. Weâve a lot of issues in life so I feel we should smile more often.â
Arshad is currently awaiting the release of âIradaâ. Directed by Aparnaa Singh and featuring Naseeruddin Shah and Divya Dutta, the film will hit the screens on February 17.
http://www.koimoi.com/bollywood-news/arshad-warsi-reveals-munnabhai-3s-shooting-story-details/
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February 8, 2017 at 3:30 AM
Kaabil And Raees Second Tuesday Business
Wednesday 08 February 2017 13.00 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
Raees became the highest January grosser ever after fourteen days of its run as it beat last years Airlift. Its not enough to make the film hit but it is a success. The total will cross 125 crore nett today. The business of Raees till date is as follows.
First Week – 1,10,05,00,000 (nine days)
Friday – 2,75,00,000
Saturday – 4,00,00,000
Sunday – 4,75,00,000
Monday – 1,50,00,000
Tuesday – 1,25,00,000
Second Weekend – 14,25,00,000 apprx
TOTAL – 1,24,30,00,000 apprx
Kaabil (Hindi) has taken its fourteen day total to a little over 80 crore nett. It will edge out Raees in the second week but it hardly makes a difference as the shortfall was nearly 45 crore nett in week one. The business of Kaabil till date is as follows.
First Week – 65,74,00,000 (nine days)
Friday – 2,50,00,000
Saturday – 4,00,00,000
Sunday – 5,25,00,000
Monday – 1,50,00,000
Tuesday – 1,35,00,000
Second Weekend – 14,55,00,000 apprx
TOTAL – 80,29,00,000 apprx
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February 8, 2017 at 3:32 AM
Highest January grosser! Haha! Why not highest February, March, April and so on grossers!
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February 8, 2017 at 4:22 AM
Doesn’t the differences in numbers among the sources usually happen for movies which are not rejected but do not start with a hit business.
For all other movies – rejected or Hit and above, such controversies rarely breaks.
Raees is atleast a success now in all sources.
Kaabil is atleast a success now in all sources minus 1. (BOI)
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February 8, 2017 at 4:51 AM
Wow moment for me. Naveen, great observation. Took 10 years to agree with you but better late than never. Obviously this below average/average/overflow/semihit categorisation is very unnecessary and confusing. The average guy on the street doesn’t talk in this robotic trade talk language. They probably say flop hai (flop), theek hai (average/ timepass), hit hai or chalenge (hit, long run), blockbuster hai (blockbuster film). The last time I heard overflow was for a toilet!
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February 8, 2017 at 5:27 AM
” The last time I heard overflow was for a toilet!”
(holidayspirit) (handshake)
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February 8, 2017 at 5:38 AM
I think SRK grossed too much for a blockbuster this time.. had it been around 100 this would have been possible.
As for Hrithik he either matched Piku or gave ZNMD a run for its money. Either way huge achievement.
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February 8, 2017 at 5:52 AM
Haha
Not losing money can be termed as a success i guess. Both are average grossers with great display of BO reporting from the producers. Lets leave it at that and move on.
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February 8, 2017 at 5:39 AM
Manisha Koirala to play Nargis Dutt in Sanjay Dutt biopic
Filmmaker Rajkumar Hirani has begun work on his next venture â Sanjay Duttâs biopic. The film that will see Ranbir Kapoor essaying the role of Bollywoodâs bad boy, will have a number of famous faces as part of the project. The latest addition to the star cast happens to be one of Sanjayâs earlier co-stars, Manisha Koirala. The actress has been roped in to play Duttâs mother Nargis.
In a recent interview, the director revealed the primary reason for getting her on board. Hirani said that since Manisha is a cancer survivor and had lived through the trying times, she would be able to âidentify with Nargisâ fightâ. The actress also happens to have been treated at the same cancer facility in New York where Nargis was treated. The biopic is expected to release in December 2017.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/hindi/bollywood/Most-talked-about-biopics-you-just-cannot-miss/Ranveer-Singh-compares-his-role-in-Padmavati-to-that-of-Joker-from-The-Dark-Knight/photostory/55199419.cms
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February 8, 2017 at 7:21 AM
So with Paresh playing Sunil Dutt, Nargis is Manisha. Why theu didn’t consider Paresh real wife for. Nargis role Swaroop Sampath. She is a good actor
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February 8, 2017 at 7:40 AM
It seems,BOI is now updating dangal overseas gross.they have updated it for Gulf and aus. the fig. they have quoted for gulf is same as is being circulated ie 8.8m$.so,i just hope they give it overall 30m$+fig.in this,way 700cr fig WW shld be done as per BOI.tremendous trending was done in gulf as opening was not very great and it’s a sort of massy circuit.
http://www.boxofficeindia.com/week_report_overseas_total.php?cityName=uae
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February 8, 2017 at 9:43 AM
Even aus is in sync with circulated fig. 2.62-2.63Aus$.i m assuming BOI have not included NZ collns in it.
http://www.boxofficeindia.com/week_report_overseas_total.php?cityName=australia
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February 8, 2017 at 10:09 AM
it seems for NA fig.BOI refers Boxofficemojo.u can see weekend fig. of 3248481$ for dangal at BOI.Number is exactly in sync with boxofficemojo nos from fri to sun.(888657+1013550+1346274)=3248481$.so,it means BOI wld also give NA no. same as circulated one.current no. is 12.382m$ for dangal in NA.
http://www.boxofficeindia.com/movie.php?movieid=3443
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=daily&id=dangal.htm
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February 8, 2017 at 10:18 AM
the fate of the film is clear to all, in India and elsewhere. These 10th week (or whatever!) Australian numbers or any other numbers don’t change anything whatever any site does or does not report. I know you’re a big Aamir fan (to put it mildly) but hey you can relax! With such a massive total, with all these records that have been broken nothing has to be proven to anyone!
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February 8, 2017 at 10:28 AM
OK Satyam,i knew you were coming.i think Yakuza has sent you an old 1985 article stating 9 out of 13 all time grossers belong to AB through mail.it wld be great if u can share this at SS.
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February 8, 2017 at 10:34 AM
haven’t received anything. anyway won’t be around till much later today.
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February 8, 2017 at 10:52 AM
Thanks….these Dangal updates are now getting a bit too much! No more news on Dangal until it releases in China!
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February 8, 2017 at 11:06 AM
Too much emphasis on numbers takes away the focus from the film. It is not about how much a film makes but it should be about the film.
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February 8, 2017 at 11:12 AM
BO is a big part of any movie (except those arts type). Any big commercial movie will be scrutinized about how much money it made (or not made).
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February 9, 2017 at 1:04 AM
Satyam, I email you article, but not sure if that is your correct email. I am opening my Blog for a day … here’s article ..
https://bollybusiness.wordpress.com/2010/08/27/upto-1984-total-13-atbb-9-was-starring-amitabh/
@Saurabh, you can hang out for a day in blog đ
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February 9, 2017 at 2:13 AM
Yakuza,thanks my god i was very active then.u can see me all over in this article of ur blog.saurabh is not anyone else but me.though i was wrong abt sallu,thought he was finished ,that was just before dabang.but still a mystery how he got multiplex audience considering the kind of movies he did after dabang.
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February 8, 2017 at 8:12 AM
http://www.india-forums.com/bollywood/hot-n-happening/74932-sanjay-dutt-wanted-to-play-sunil-dutt-role-in-his-biopic.htm
Sanjay Dutt who was very close to his dad wanted to play the most iconic character of the film.
Sanjay who gave 200 hours of recording as a basic matter for the biopic, didn’t want the attention to be divided between the real and the reel Dutt.
The film also features Sonam Kapoor as Sanjay’s earlier love interest, Vicky Kaushal as his friend from the US, Anushka Sharma as a journalist and Paresh Rawal as Sunil Dutt. Manisha joins the cast as Nargis, Sanjay’s mother, whose death in 1981 from pancreatic cancer, affected him deeply.
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February 8, 2017 at 9:17 AM
This seems a good piece and Dangal in some ways has given an opportunity to big stars ( who are aiming only for big number ) to change course and not worry about the “add-on” of commercial cinema. Infact with Raees it’s also clear any dilutions may now have adverse effect and the minor gains from opening with ‘ flavor enhancers ‘ will be momentary and eventually dwindle if wom gets poor due to such concoction.
The dry track of Bajrangi Bhaijaan was also one such confidence building moment but more so for Salman since until then he was associated with his signature supplements. In this respect ‘Tubelight’ will reveal a bit more and it seems Kabir may have pushed the envelope a tad more.
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Aamir Has Given New Aspect to Mainstream Cinema: Karan Johar
“….The honcho of Dharma Production said the 51-year-old actor is the most intelligent artist of India.
“I don’t give a tag to anyone. The only thing I can say about him that he is the most outstanding producer and actor in the Indian film industry.”
“Dangal is a complete Hindustani film…The way the film has been presented is outstanding and has emotionally touched everyone’s heart. I don’t think there has been a better film in the last decade than Dangal,” said Karan.
http://www.news18.com/news/movies/aamir-has-given-new-aspect-to-mainstream-cinema-karan-johar-1345556.html
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February 8, 2017 at 9:30 AM
Yakuza since you have been waiting for long, there is some bad news for you ! Though it must be added the clash chatter helps small movies these days with some added buzz.
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February 8, 2017 at 10:16 AM
Yes saw that .. Disappointed by this decision. March was best date .. hardly any notable release. Though even Jagaa Jasoos date is not final yet .. it may slip.
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February 8, 2017 at 9:33 AM
http://forums.itsboxoffice.com/546936/rentrak-further-verified-credible-authentic-boxoffice-tracking
Very intresting piece.Even rentrak authenticates BOI in nos.
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February 8, 2017 at 12:28 PM
If you look at Rentrak number , looking at precision you can say that they are estimates. When you end up at 45.10 instead of 45.11 or 45.09, it is an estimate.
Also, I just saw Film information raw numbers for Raaes and Kaabil. The ratio was 70% (Kaabil/Raaes). If BOI is saying 110 for Raees then Kaabil should be approx. 78.
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February 9, 2017 at 3:23 AM
BOI has 65 cr for Kaabil in week one and 110 cr for Raees. They are under-reporting Kaabil by 10 cr or so.
And now Raees is a ‘semi-hit’by BOI :
http://boxofficeindia.com/report-details.php?articleid=2700
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February 8, 2017 at 10:34 AM
LMAO !!!
https://twitter.com/reviewero/status/829319844621328384
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February 8, 2017 at 2:21 PM
Saw Munthirivallikal Thalirkkumbol(malayalam). The cast of superhit Drishyam is repeated here but very average movie.
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February 8, 2017 at 3:44 PM
http://www.indicine.com/movies/bollywood/arshad-warsi-confirms-ishqiya-3/
Munnabhai 3 on the cards!
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February 8, 2017 at 8:14 PM
http://www.ndtv.com/tamil-nadu-news/kamal-haasan-backs-panneerselvam-says-sasikala-reality-hurts-me-1657409?pfrom=home-lateststories
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February 8, 2017 at 11:07 PM
Shraddha being considered for thugs of hindustan
http://m.filmfare.com/news/aamir-khan-and-shraddha-kapoor-18638.html
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February 9, 2017 at 1:25 AM
http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/tamil-nadu/%E2%80%98Dhanush-approached-HC-with-fake-birth-certificate%E2%80%99/article17265016.ece?homepage=true
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February 9, 2017 at 1:30 AM
Aamir was recently quoted saying, âIâm a huge fan of Rajamouliâs work and if he ever plans to make âMahabharataâ, Iâd love to play Krishna or Karna. I might actually go with Krishnaâ.
Buzz is that the film is expected to hit the theaters in 2018. Considering the major casting coup, one can only imagine the filmâs budget and also what a mark it will leave at the box office, with biggies like Rajini, Aamir and Mohanlal in one film.
The film will be shot in 3 languages, Tamil Telugu and Hindi. Reportedly, the filmâs budget is around 400 crores.
http://www.koimoi.com/bollywood-news/rajinikanth-aamir-khan-mohanlal-to-be-a-part-of-rajamoulis-mahabharata/
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February 9, 2017 at 2:02 AM
Toi
Ranbir Kapoor and Katrina Kaif’s ‘Jagga Jasoos’ to have 29 songs.
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February 9, 2017 at 2:41 AM
Wow missed 30 by 1. Shame the producers weren’t FKP or RCE.
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February 9, 2017 at 2:04 AM
Boxofficeindia
You Asked It – Has Dangal Beaten The Footfalls Of Bajrang
Q. Why are the figures of dubbed versions not included in the collections of the website?
A. These figures you will see in box office note on the page for the film. The figures are tracked for Hindi films and the dubbed versions are not Hindi films, many even have different names. A Hindi film dubbed into Tamil and Telugu will do around 1-5% of its Hindi version depending on the position of the local releases down. It can be done for every film. There are also a lot of comparisons on the site and it does not work if these figures are added as with big film some choose to dub while others do not. Also the most important reason is films have to be kept separate and taking these dubbed mean you have to bring regional films into the equation. When Dangal finishes it run is a week or so then we will do a few charts which will make it clearer.
Q. Has Dangal beaten the footfalls of Bajrangi Bhaijaan and what are they?
A. Yes has edged past and will be published at the end of its run in a few weeks time.
Q. The last week has seen manipulated figures being talked by everybody including main newspapers but a big box office website like yours has not even mentioned it?
A. Its not the first time it has happened and won’t be the last. It happens practically every other week with some film or the other to different levels. There is not much to comment on and our bit can be seen here. When something happens often and then you get up and comment after years the first question by people surfing the site is why now and assume there is something behind it. The main industry people know the correct figures as the industry can’t work with fake figures. Today 70-80% of the collections of a Hindi film are there to see at a theatre level which was not the case ten years back so the public and media can be given any number but the industry will get theatre level collections and know the real number irrespective of any other numbers going around.
Q. Why was the opening of Kaabil was so low. Is it because just of Raees as it it was opening which killed the film
A. Raees was one reason but not the only one. The promos, music and production values had to be much better to stand up in a clash. Even without clash these type of revenge thrillers find it tough going as only Mumbai and a couple of other circuits really works unless the music is huge or it has a superstar at the top of his game who can convert the audience outside Mumbai and others.
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February 9, 2017 at 3:16 AM
http://www.koimoi.com/bollywood-news/details-revealed-ajay-devgn-signs-urban-comedy/
After a series of action films and out-and-out comedies, Ajay Devgnâs next will be a contemporary rom-com to be written & produced by Luv Ranjan. A quirky take on urban relationships, the film will have Ajay in an edgy space that resonates with todayâs youth.
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February 9, 2017 at 3:47 AM
The big clash between Kaabil and Raees is another clash where the films have not lived upto expectations with both films under performing. Raees has got away with it due to an excellent start and is a SEMI HIT while Kaabil is a failure and will be BELOW AVERAGE / FLOP depending on final share. Either way it makes little difference as its not a success. Raees also has a huge pot from Overseas to helps its cause and the Overseas share will in the 35-40 crore range. The combined figures will be a little better than the Ae Dil Hai Mushkil v Shivaay clash where the combined total was 190 crore nett and here it will go to 215 crore nett. But that was Ajay Devgn and Ranbir Kapoor and here it is Shahrukh Khan and Hrithik Roshan so a 25 crore nett gap is not much. Even the gap is due to Raees which will have a 25 crore nett higher total than the winner of that clash Ae Dil Hai Mushkil while Kaabil and Shivaay will be in same range.
Raees is another film which has not grossed like a Shahrukh Khan film but it keeps his unbelievable clash record intact. He is the star with probbaly the most clashes but comes out on top every time irrespective of content. There were some defeats in the earlier films but he was not a star then. The only setback came in 2001 when Indian beat Asoka but at that time Sunny Deol in the right film was always going to be tough nut to crack for anyone. The clashes include big victories against rivals Aamir Khan in 1995 (Ram Jaane v Akele Hum Akele Tum) and Salman Khan (Don v Jaan-E-Mann). In 2015 the Dilwale v Bajirao Mastani clash is seen as a defeat but if the wider picture is seen with Worldwide numbers its a comfortable victory for Dilwale and this was only due to the clout of Shahrukh Khan as the film was not liked. Even in India it would have been much closer if the intolerance debate did not happen at time of release which cost the film around 15% business. Shahrukh Khan has probably defeated every other major star out there in a clash.
Kaabil is a another downer for Hrithik Roshan and now the next film is very important as its not around the corner so when it comes it has to be a big one. In 2006 he was about to be undisputed superstar and leave the Khan’s behind after Krrish and Dhoom 2 but doing poor films like Jodhaa Akbar and Zindagi Na Milegi Dobaraa cost him badly as Salman Khan reinvented and made the action space his own and there was no looking back for him.
The difference in stardom is so much that films like Dhoom 2 and Krrish did not open that much lower than Kaabil despite more than 60% less screens and half the ticket rates. Despite this they were just 25% less than Kaabil on the first day.
Boxofficeindia
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February 9, 2017 at 4:27 AM
Lol another love letter to Srk !
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February 9, 2017 at 4:44 AM
I had doubts but it is confirmed that some srk and salman PR is sitting there and writing all this nonsense demeaning other stars and elevating SRK and Salman. Calling well appreciated films like JA and ZNMD as poor outings.
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February 9, 2017 at 7:03 AM
A star in my lifetime hasn’t been gushed over so fancifully by the media and trade despite a long rut.
One wonders where SRK would be without his PR agencies.
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February 9, 2017 at 3:52 AM
âAamir Khan did no promotion for Dangal, still delivered biggest hitâ â Naseeruddin Shah
âThis whole business of promotions is over rated. To my mind it is nonsensical. It is a waste of money,â said Naseeruddin Shah Sahab in a Bollywood Hungama exclusive video interview with Content Head Broadband Faridoon Shahryar. âAamir did no promotion for Dangal. He didnât go anywhere. It is the biggest hit, not only of the year but of history. So what do you gain by drawing thousands of hysterical people to look at you. I think these actors enjoy doing this thatâs why they do it. Blowing up that much money is no big deal for them,â stated Naseer Sahab in his trademark no nonsense style taking a jibe at the trend of too-much-in-the-face-promotions instead of quality promotions.
Naseer Sahab went on to add, âI donât believe promotions can make a film successful. The film is successful on its own merit. Promotions can make it more successful perhaps. But promotions canât convert a bad movie into a good one.â He substantiated his point by adding, âWhen A Wednesday was made there were no promotions done. There was hardly a poster in town. There were black and white posters of me and Anupam Kher, not the heartthrob kind of guys. The movie did not do well in the first week. It picked up from the second week.â
Naseer Sahab has made a solid point at a time when mushrooming of Media has resulted in too much of content dissemination (many a times harping on sensational âjuicyâ stories). The need of the hour is to identify the right platforms and journalists that add value instead of carpet bombing that only tires out the stars.
http://www.bollywoodhungama.com/news/features/aamir-khan-no-promotion-dangal-still-delivered-biggest-hit-naseeruddin-shah/
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