World Cup – Aamir Khan (updated Group Stage standings, Round 1, 2 & 3 voting in progress)

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8 GROUPS OF RANDOMLY CHOSEN FILMS THAT STAR AAMIR KHAN – 4 FILMS IN EACH GROUP
2 MATCHES EVERY OTHER DAY FROM EACH GROUP – votes equal points
BLOGGERS TO VOTE ON WHICH FILM WINS – only need the winning film and if you like a reason for victory. No essays! In The event of a tie score at the end of group stages – the head to head match will determine the victor. In the event of a tie head to head my vote will determine the victor.
TOP 2 FROM EACH GROUP TO GO THROUGH TO FINAL 16 – matches there on are randomly picked by me.

Final 16 and knockouts – in the event of a tie score the highest voted film overall will go through.

Honourable mentions to nothing really.

Here are the groups and matches. Please vote by naming the film you prefer and ensure it is in a list like my example.

Group 1
Qayamat Se Qayamat Tak 66
Ghajini 52
Mann 19
Baazi 4
Group 2
3 Idiots 56
Rangeela 54
Raakh 25
Holi 5
Group 3
Lagaan 65
Dhobi Ghat 31
Akele Hum Akele Tum 30
Dil 14
Group 4
Dil Chahta Hai 61
Talaash 51
Raja Hindustani 21
Afsana Pyar Ka 7
Group 5
Dil Hai Ke Manta Nahin 59
Mangal Pandey 44
Dhoom 3 19
Ishq 18
Group 6
Rang De Basanti 56
Jo Jeeta Wohi Sikander 52
PK 23
Ghulam 9
Group 7
Dangal 62
Earth 30
Hum Hain Rahi Pyar Ke 28
Fanaa 20
Group 8
Taare Zameen Par 45
Sarfarosh 41
Andaz Apna Apna 39
Secret Superstar 15

First Round Group Matches

Qayamat Se Qayamat Tak Vs Baazi
Mann Vs Ghajini
Raakh Vs Rangeela
Holi Vs 3 Idiots
Dil Vs Akele Hum Akele Tum
Lagaan Vs Dhobi Ghat
Afsana Pyar Ka Vs Raja Hindustani
Dil Chahta Hai Vs Talaash
Dil Hai Ke Manta Nahin Vs Ishq
Mangal Pandey Vs Dhoom 3
Jo Jeeta Wohi Sikander Vs Ghulam
Rang De Basanti Vs PK
Hum Hain Rahi Pyar Ke Vs Earth
Fanaa Vs Dangal
Andaz Apna Apna Vs Sarfarosh
Taare Zameen Par Vs Secret Superstar

2nd Round Group matches

Qayamat Se Qayamat Tak Vs Mann
Baazi Vs Ghajini
Raakh Vs Holi
Rangeela Vs 3 Idiots
Dil Vs Lagaan
Akele Hum Akele Tum Vs Dhobi Ghat
Afsana Pyar Ka Vs Dil Chahta Hai
Raja Hindustani Vs Talaash
Dil Hai Ke Manta Nahin vs Mangal Pandey
Ishq Vs Dhoom 3
Jo Jeeta Wohi Sikander vs Rang De Basanti
Ghulam Vs PK
Hum Hain Rahi Pyar Ke vs Fanaa
Earth Vs Dangal
Andaz Apna Apna vs Taare Zameen Par
Sarfarosh Vs Secret Superstar

3rd Round Group matches

Qayamat Se Qayamat Tak Vs Ghajini
Baazi Vs Mann
Raakh Vs 3 Idiots
Rangeela Vs Holi
Dil Vs Dhobi Ghat
Akele Hum Akele Tum Vs Lagaan
Afsana Pyar Ka Vs Talaash
Raja Hindustani Vs Dil Chahta Hai
Dil Hai Ke Manta Nahin Vs Dhoom 3
Ishq Vs Mangal Pandey
Jo Jeeta Wohi Sikander Vs PK
Ghulam Vs Rang De Basanti
Hum Hain Rahi Pyar Ke Vs Dangal
Earth Vs Fanaa
Andaz Apna Apna Vs Secret Superstar
Sarfarosh Vs Taare Zameen Par

 

 

 

 

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501 Responses to “World Cup – Aamir Khan (updated Group Stage standings, Round 1, 2 & 3 voting in progress)”

  1. Round 1 Group Stage

    Qayamat Se Qayamat Tak
    Ghajini
    Rangeela
    3 Idiots
    Akele Hum Akele Tum
    Lagaan
    Afsana Pyar Ka
    Dil Chahta Hai
    Dil Hai Ke Manta Nahin
    Mangal Pandey
    Jo Jeeta Wohi Sikander
    Rang De Basanti
    Earth
    Dangal
    Sarfarosh
    Taare Zameen Par

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  2. Qayamat Se Qayamat Tak
    Ghajini
    Rangeela
    3 Idiots
    Akele Hum Akele Tum
    Lagaan
    Raja Hindustani
    Talaash
    Dil Hai Ke Manta Nahin
    Mangal Pandey
    Ghulam
    Rang De Basanti
    1947-Earth
    Dangal
    Sarfarosh
    Taare Zameen Par

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  3. QSQT
    Ghajini
    Rangeela
    3I
    AHAT
    Lagaan
    Afsana Pyar Ka
    Talaash (this should have been a later matchup! I would have voted for it over every Aamir film except for Lagaan!)
    DHKMN
    MP
    JJWS
    RDB
    Earth
    Dangal
    Sarfarosh
    TZP

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  4. But Jay has made it such that most of the excellent movies are put against each other which would result in either of the one getting knocked out in last 16 race!! Case in point is putting DCH against Talaash & PK vs RDB & JJWS vs Ghulam which is rather unfair as one of them would get eliminated even before last 16 despite being among the best ones Aamir has been part of!!

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    • All teams within a group play each other once. Only 2 go through! Of course Group 6 & 8 are going to cause an upset! So JJWS will play RDB and PK…likewise for each group

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  5. Round 1:

    QSQT
    Ghajini (haven’t seen it but it can’t be worse than Mann!)
    Rangeela
    3 Idiots
    Dil
    Lagaan
    Afsana Pyar Ka
    Dil Chahta Hai
    Dil Hai Ke Manta Nahin
    Mangal Pandey
    Jo Jeeta Wohi Sikander
    Rand De Basanti
    Hum Hain Rahi Pyar Ke
    Dangal
    Sarfarosh
    Taare Zameen Par

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  6. AamirsFan Says:

    Here we go…this is going to fun!

    Qayamat Se Qayamat Tak
    Mann
    Rangeela
    3 Idiots
    Akele Hum Akele Tum
    Lagaan
    Raja Hindustani
    Dil Chahta Hai
    Dil Hai Ke Manta Nahin (love the title song)
    Mangal Pandey
    Jo Jeeta Wohi Sikander
    PK (this was the hardest choice to make…)
    Earth (…until I got to this choice lol…sheesh)
    Dangal
    Andaz Apna Apna (these match-ups are incredibly insane to pick!!)
    Taare Zameen Par

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  7. thecooldude Says:

    QSQT
    Ghajini
    Rangeela
    3 idiots
    AHAT
    Lagaan
    RH
    DCH
    DHKMN
    Mangal Pandey
    JJWS
    PK
    HHRPK
    Dangal
    AAA
    TZP

    This is gonna be fun!!!

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  8. Qayamat Se Qayamat Tak
    Ghajini
    Rangeela
    Holi
    Akele Hum Akele Tum
    Dhobi Ghat
    Raja Hindustani
    Dil Chahta Ha
    Dil Hai Ke Manta Nahin
    Dhoom
    Ghulam
    Rang De Basanti
    Earth
    Dangal
    Sarfarosh
    Secret Superstar

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  9. Qayamat Se Qayamat Tak
    Ghajini
    Raakh
    3 Idiots
    Akele Hum Akele Tum
    Lagaan
    Raja Hindustani
    Dil Chahta Hai
    Dil Hai Ke Manta Nahin
    Mangal Pandey
    Jo Jeeta Wohi Sikander
    Rang De Basanti
    Earth
    Dangal
    Sarfarosh
    Taare Zameen Par

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  10. Qayamat Se Qayamat Tak
    Ghajini
    Rangeela
    3 Idiots
    Akele Hum Akele Tum
    Lagaan
    Raja Hindustani
    Dil Hai Ke Manta Nahin
    Mangal Pandey
    Jo Jeeta Wohi Sikander
    Rang De Basanti
    Earth
    Dangal
    Sarfarosh
    Taare Zameen Par

    Just copy pasted and removed the lesser ones.

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    • QSQT
      Ghajini
      Rangeela
      3 Idiots
      Akele Hum Akele Tum
      Lagaan
      Raja Hindustani
      Talaash
      DHKMN
      Mangal Pandey
      JJWS
      Rang de Basanti
      Earth
      Fanaa
      Sarfarosh
      TZP

      some truly unfortunate match-ups here I’m afraid (JJWS vs Ghulam, or Lagaan vs Dhobi Ghat, were painful).

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    • Between Talaash and DCH will take Talaash.

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  11. aage aage bahut difficult hai.

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  12. Qayamat Se Qayamat Tak
    Ghajini
    Rangeela
    3 Idiots
    Akele Hum Akele Tum
    Lagaan
    Raja Hindustani
    Dil Chahta Hai
    Dil Hai Ke Manta Nahin
    Mangal Pandey
    Jo Jeeta Wohi Sikander
    Rang De Basanti
    Hum Hain Rahi Pyar Ke
    Dangal
    Sarfarosh
    Taare Zameen Par

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  13. Can we have Bachchan’s next? Before Salman and Akshay.

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    • I second that.

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      • By the time i was born bachchan was past his prime. So purists wont count my votes i guess.

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        • There are three phases of him. First one the angry young man and the next one experimental one or european cinema in boi terms! That is roughly speaking. His films with Hrishida and others like Hrishida and the post angry young man phase in angry middleaged man roles.
          In the first segment we can take Abhimaan, Chupke Chupke, Deewar, Sholay, AAA as samples. Shahenshah, Agnipath middle phase samples. The last one has Paa, Piku Teen as samples. Sarkar series represent mainstream in his older years.
          It will be easy for Jayshah if these phases are separated instead of face offs from a general pool without taking into consideration age factor.

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          • The middle aged career was the lowest phase for him. We can ignore that without missing much but hype. I think bachchan’s cup shud be between the films in 1975-85 phase. V few old age films have him as the lead, so that will be a skewed world cup too.

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          • Actually there are tons of films that have him as the lead Mohabbatein and onwards. But one can certainly include films in this phase where he has a very important part. In any case it would be hard to do a WC with his entire career. Simply too many films.

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          • We shud do 2 parts – pre and post mohabbatein imo. But many will hv bias against films like k3g or kank as they were mainly srk vehicles.

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          • you don’t need KANK when he has tons of films in this period that are far more important.. I don’t have a problem with including Mohabbatein and KANK (the former should certainly be there) but otherwise… Aks, Aankhen, Kaante, Baghbaan, Khakee, Dev, Black, Ek Rishtaa, Waqt, BnB, Sarkar, Viruddh, Aetbaar, Eklavya, Bhootnath, Teen Patti, Nishabd, Cheeni Kum, Paa, the Last Lear, Rann, Satyagraha, Aarakshan, Piku, wazir, Pink, Teen. And there are still some others I haven’t included. Even at this stage his volume is quite remarkable. Just the ones I’ve named are about 30! And of course Thugs is around the corner.

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          • Wow!

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        • We can have 2 parts or 3. And the final face off.

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          • Bachchan will arrive but I’ll keep you waiting. Salman will be as worthwhile as I can make it. Plus Madhuri Vs Sridevi is next!

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  14. There is nothing much to choose from.
    There is too much to choose from.

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  15. QSQT
    Ghajini
    Rangeela
    3 Idiots
    Dil
    Lagaan
    RH
    DCH
    DHKMN
    D3
    JJWS
    RDB
    Earth
    Dangal
    Sarfarosh
    SS

    Some tough ones here. would have liked Fanaa , Talaash and AAA to go ahead.

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  16. Qayamat Se Qayamat Tak
    Ghajini
    Rangeela
    3 Idiots
    Akele Hum Akele Tum
    Lagaan
    Raja Hindustani
    Dil Chahta Hai
    Ishq
    Mangal Pandey
    Jo Jeeta Wohi Sikander
    Rang De Basanti
    Hum Hain Rahi Pyar Ke
    Dangal
    Andaz Apna Apna
    Taare Zameen Par

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  17. Jay – Satyam will fund your next 2 projects: Angry Man Cup & Old Man Cup. Bring them on!

    That will bring most members out of hibernation for sure (one way or the other!).

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  18. Qayamat Se Qayamat Tak
    Ghajini
    Rangeela
    3 Idiots
    Akele Hum Akele Tum
    Lagaan
    Raja Hindustani
    Dil Chahta Hai
    Dil Hai Ke Manta Nahin
    Mangal Pandey
    Jo Jeeta Wohi Sikandar
    Rang De Basanti
    Earth
    Dangal
    Andaz Apna Apna
    Taare Zameen Par

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  19. tonymontana Says:

    Round 1:

    Qayamat Se Qayamat Tak
    Ghajini
    Rangeela
    3 Idiots
    Dil
    Lagaan
    Raja Hindustani
    Dil Chahta Hai
    Dil Hai Ke Manta Nahin
    Dhoom 3
    Jo Jeeta Wohi Sikander
    Rang De Basanti
    Hum Hain Rahi Pyar Ke
    Dangal
    Andaz Apna Apna
    Taare Zameen Par

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  20. QSQT
    Ghajini
    Rangeela
    3 idiots
    Dil
    Lagaan
    Raja Hindustani
    Talaash
    DHKMN
    Mangal Pandey
    JJWS
    RDB
    HHRPK
    Dangal
    Sarfarosh
    TZP

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  21. Jay, You have created seeding system for 8 teams to avoid bad clashes early. Just a thought.

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    • I thought the same thing while voting …

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    • Barring the replacement of Mela with Holi I have used a method for groups. How it turns out is just what it is, it’s logical enough method – I’m sure munna will figure it out! (same for SRK). By meddling with it I’m sure we’ll debate who the 8 seeds would be!

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  22. QSQT
    Ghajini
    Rangeela
    3 Idiots
    AHAT
    Lagaan
    DCH
    Raja Hindustani
    DHKMN
    Mangal Pandey
    RDB
    JJWS
    HHRPK
    Dangal
    Sarfarosh
    TZP

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  23. Seeding is the system in professional tennis used to separate the top players in a draw so that they will not meet in the early rounds of a tournament. … He and the second seed are placed at opposite ends of the draw so that, if they both keep winning, they will meet in the final round.

    And the benefit of being the second player.

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    • Seeding also provides you the thrill of upsets 🙂

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      • Sorry clicked too soon on the previous comment. Seeding could be based on IMDB rating to be on the safe side.

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      • Here the upset chances are little as it is not a live show like sports. A Holi or Raakh cannot upset a more popular film. Even a DG will find it difficult to do so.

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        • Agree – it’s not like a film can be off form or injured too! The cream should rise to the top eventually! Round of final 16 will be very tough if people are finding groups unfair!

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  24. And Firangi has voted Dhobi Ghat over Lagaan so unless it’s a strategic vote – watch out, shocks are possible.

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  25. tonymontana Says:

    I honestly dont know why people are preferring Sarfarosh over AAA. the latter has been a Hindi comedy staple for millions across the country. and there are many of my friends who rate this film as the best Hindi comedy of all time.

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    • agree. I did not connect to Sarfarosh as much as others do.

      AAA, DCH and 3Idiots are another territory.

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      • tonymontana Says:

        i find sarfarosh a vastly overrated film by some intellectuals. seriously i do not know what’s the big deal in it

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        • More than overrated its a well liked film. An understated patriotic film. When I first saw I was not that impressed. After repeat viewings I started to like it. It aged well.

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    • Sarfarosh is one of the best cop gangster thrillers to have come out in Hindi cinema. A film that deserves much more praise than what it gets.

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  26. Amit Pandey Says:

    Round 1:
    Qayamat Se Qayamat Tak
    Ghajini
    Rangeela
    3 Idiots
    Dil
    Lagaan
    Raja Hindustani
    Dil Chahta Hai
    Dil Hai Ke Manta Nahin
    Dhoom 3
    Jo Jeeta Wohi Sikander
    Rang De Basanti
    Hum Hain Rahi Pyar Ke
    Dangal
    Andaz Apna Apna
    Taare Zameen Par

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  27. Round one

    Qayamat Se Qayamat Tak
    Ghajini
    Rangeela
    3 Idiots
    Akele Hum Akele Tum
    Lagaan
    Raja Hindustani
    Talaash
    Ishq
    Mangal Pandey
    Jo Jeeta Wohi Sikander
    Rang De Basanti
    Earth
    Dangal
    Sarfarosh
    Taare Zameen Par

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  28. First Round Group Matches

    Qayamat Se Qayamat Tak
    Ghajini
    Rangeela
    3 Idiots
    Akele Hum Akele Tum
    Lagaan
    Raja Hindustani
    Dil Chahta Hai
    Dil Hai Ke Manta Nahin
    Mangal Pandey
    Jo Jeeta Wohi Sikander
    Rang De Basanti
    Hum Hain Rahi Pyar Ke
    Dangal
    Andaz Apna Apna
    Taare Zameen Par

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  29. Dole Dole Dil Dole needs your help. Only film not to be given a vote so far is Baazi. Half expect Shivaay to give it a vote when it faces Ghajini… though Mann didn’t get Shivaay’s vote against Ghajini even after all the trolling. 19/20 have voted for Ghajini Vs Mann.

    The shock factor vote goes to Firangi Mallah – voted against Lagaan, 3 Idiots & Taare Zameen Par (3 heavy hitters). Tactical, strategic votes? Or googly? Is Jeeves trying to engineer a Holi victory after begging for its entry instead of Mela. Or is he just doing the Firangi thing for now, batting for the enemy to join forces with the good later on?

    China is devastated that Secret Superstar has only scored twice against Taare Zameen Par only to realise Dangal has battered Fanaa (Qalander is upset with that comment).

    2 days of voting for these matches still left! 20 voters – very good! QSQT 💯%, 5 films with 95% of the vote…Round 2 of group stages starts Sunday night GMT… enjoy!

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    • Haha! The real Secret Superstar is Darsheel. Who can forget his performance? Aamir tried hard to elevate Zaira Wasim and make her big star.

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    • thecooldude Says:

      Baazi is an absolute crap movie…..I know some folks here want to just vote differently just for the sake of making things interesting but how in the world can you go against the movie that changed hindi cinema in 1988.

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    • Would be really interesting if QSQT and Lagaan met in the final!

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      • Like DDLJ and Swades.

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        • This is trickier though because everyone loves QSQT, it would be hard to vote against it. On the other hand Lagaan is universally respected and ultimately the greater film in any objective sense. I certainly would be a bit torn between this choice. For me at least QSQT is much superior to DDLJ and between Swades and Lagaan I don’t even think there’s a contest! Anyway that’s a long way off. For the moment I’m more worried about Talaash not going deep enough!

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  30. Contest should’ve been

    Mann vs Fanaa
    Baazi vs Ghajini

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  31. Firangi Mallah, I’m responding to a couple of your comments here that I felt no need to let through…

    First off there’s no great conspiracy here. The idea that the contests are being rigged in certain ways to get certain results is utterly absurd. We’re not going to change history here irrespective of however these polls turn out! This is just fun. Don’t take it so seriously. The contest so far does reveal how more meaningful films generally do better over time. Dil Se made the final 4, Swades got to the final. Even Darr beat all of SRK’s other iconic stuff. And his biggest hit ever beat Swades narrowly. It’s interesting therefore to see how views evolve over a longer period. Nonetheless the idea (and I know some others have suggested it here too) that there’s some deeper vested interest behind doing these contests or it’s to favor certain stars or films is downright silly. Not sure what we could possibly do here that could make any sort of difference anywhere else! Your most recent votes are suspect for obvious reasons. I hope you won’t keep doing crazy stuff just because you believe in crazier things. If it’s a sincere vote that’s a different matter.

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    • thecooldude Says:

      Yes….folks who master in conspiracy theories have evolved now from JFK to 9-11 to satyamshot! Wait until you see what we do to Salman.

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    • I’ve just seen these myself. I’m pretty disappointed.

      I’ll lay out how the group’s have been made not that I have to. If I personally involved myself in the process of groups it could create a manufactured tournament. Indeed I didn’t ‘seed’ as I would be rigging to some degree.

      All I have done is listed SRK and Aamir films chronologically from Wikipedia, deleted the film’s not required and arrived at 32 films. The first 8 films are numbered 1-8, the next 8 1-8 and so on. The Aamir groups were set in stone till Jeeves wanted Holi instead of Mela. Instead of re-engineering new groups I just replaced Mela with Holi as inserting Holi would means it’s the first film in Aamir’s filmography and it would change every group thereafter.

      Each person who is voting can go to Wikipedia and use the same process and they will arrive at the same groups.

      For knockouts I’m just using random excel formulas to derive each round or asking my wife to tell a number from 1-8 and that’s the first film out then another number etc.

      Nothing spooky here. I’m happy to stop the whole thing if this claim is furthered as you can now derive the group yourself. For Aamir you have to assume Mela in the order film #18 in his filmography and just replace it with Holi instead of Holi being film #1 and creating 8 different groups (and mind you I checked these groups and they become even TOUGHER) – so I left the original groups just replacing Mela with Holi.

      I don’t care about the claim – as you can check it for yourself and apologize after.

      It’s rather silly tbh – just a game, won’t bother next time.

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      • If Aamir’s 1st film was QSQT and 9th Sarfarosh, 17th Lagaan and 25th 3 Idiots I would still have left that group as it is.

        You can build your own group next time or give me a method that doesn’t involve huge effort or seeding or IMDb or whatever. I went with something easy that could still surprise and make it unpredictable.

        Have to say I’m more cheesed off with this than writing box office columns! Something so trivial like a game has got you annoyed for no reason.

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      • Jay this is a great deal of fun. I’m sure I speak for most people here when I say you should definitely continue with this. In fact with the last one I enjoyed it a lot more than I expected to when you first suggested the idea. So you should definitely carry on..

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  32. Eagerly waiting for Big B and Salman ones along with Akshay’s and Ranbir’s. It is only a game. And nothing serious.

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  33. Original groups based on Wikipedia chronological order

    Qayamat Se Qayamat Tak 1
    Raakh 2
    Dil3
    Afsana Pyaar Ka4
    Dil Hai Ke Manta Nahin5
    Jo Jeeta Wohi Sikandar6
    Hum Hain Rahi Pyar Ke7
    Andaz Apna Apna8
    Baazi1
    Rangeela2
    Akele Hum Akele Tum3
    Raja Hindustani4
    Ishq5
    Ghulam6
    Earth7
    Sarfarosh8
    Mann1
    Mela2
    Lagaan3
    Dil Chahta Hai4
    Mangal Pandey5
    Rang De Basanti6
    Fanaa7
    Taare Zameen Par8
    Ghajini1
    3 Idiots2
    Dhobi Ghat3
    Talaash4
    Dhoom 35
    PK 6
    Dangal7
    Secret Superstar8

    New groups with Holi – I chose to not go with this as original groups were shared so replaced Mela with Holi in the above groups instead.
    Holi1
    Qayamat Se Qayamat Tak2
    Raakh3
    Dil4
    Afsana Pyaar Ka5
    Dil Hai Ke Manta Nahin6
    Jo Jeeta Wohi Sikandar7
    Hum Hain Rahi Pyar Ke8
    Andaz Apna Apna1
    Baazi2
    Rangeela3
    Akele Hum Akele Tum4
    Raja Hindustani5
    Ishq6
    Ghulam7
    Earth8
    Sarfarosh1
    Mann2
    Lagaan3
    Dil Chahta Hai4
    Mangal Pandey5
    Rang De Basanti6
    Fanaa7
    Taare Zameen Par8
    Ghajini1
    3 Idiots2
    Dhobi Ghat3
    Talaash4
    Dhoom 35
    PK 6
    Dangal7
    Secret Superstar8

    SRK done same way except excluded films which I did on my own accord.

    The group’s have little bias this way unless the actor chose every 8th film of his to be a masterpiece or utter rubbish!

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  34. Group 5 seems the weakest.

    Qayamat Se Qayamat Tak
    Ghajini
    Raakh
    3 Idiots
    Dil
    Lagaan
    Afsana Pyar Ka
    Dil Chahta Hai(Sorry Talaash, this is Jays fault)
    Dil Hai Ke Manta Nahin
    Mangal Pandey
    Jo Jeeta Wohi Sikander
    Rang De Basanti
    Hum Hain Rahi Pyar Ke
    Dangal
    Andaz Apna Apna Vs Sarfarosh(Are you kidding me? With a heavy heart. It is Sarfarosh)
    Taare Zameen Par

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  35. All future groups will be the same way.

    So I’m sorry if you get Deewar, Sholay, Trishul & Don in the same group.
    Or Hello Brother, Tubelight, Marigold & God Tussi Great Ho.

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  36. Hope now All is well!

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  37. Ghulam, which is an adaptation of On The Waterfront could have been a good film (could have been a contender!) but for the fact that everything in the movie is blindingly obvious. It’s hardly surprising as the director who helmed the project is a known hack – one of those countless South Bombay drones who look up to Hollywood as if they are ashamed of their own industry. The title, as quirk of fate would have it, is really apt as they are the real ghulams. And in some cases, like Vikram Bhatt’s, the awakening from this inferiority complex, so desired, never comes to pass.

    I can very well imagine the conversation (while scripting) going like this: we need to adapt OTW for our poor, clueless Indian masses. Nevermind the fact that the iconic original had Marlon Brando playing a proper loser — a dimwit who develops a conscience, out of love and desperation, to testify against a mob boss. That is classic Hollywood, but we need to milk every single piece of empathy that can be aroused by playing to the galleries. To that end, we will use a hammer where a stick will suffice. Let’s boldly say it aloud: subtlety be damned.

    We will go ahead and give a pathetic display of the boxing fight that Brando only alludes to fixing. We will make Aamir a hard-ass hero (with swag), totally capable of standing up to a muscular Ronnie (Sharat Saxena). In the climax, while fighting with Ronnie, our hero will not only get up after being beaten to a pulp, but will also defeat Ronnie, in true Bollywood fashion, nevermind the fact that he’s at least two times his own size. It’s Bollywood, you see – and once we are done, we will also pat our backs while taking credit for steering the industry in the right direction.

    /end rant.

    I don’t mind the fact that a Hollywood classic was remade in Bollywood. I do mind, however, that the adaptation ended up like this – a kitschy retelling that adds nothing, absolutely nothing, to the original but only debases it. Even thugs, the real ones, had more integrity than these Bollywood poseurs

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    • Haha … And Karan Malhotra did an one-up on the Ghulam climax in his Agneepath remake!

      You should be posting more, Saket!

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    • Haven’t seen Brando’s film but in general not a huge fan of Ghulam for reasons you’ve laid out. One film I missed watching in cinema altogether in fact – a rarity for an Aamir film for me in general. Decent only.

      I liked some songs but felt like JL were trying very hard to recreate the JJWS pulse.

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    • I liked this song a lot back then …

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  38. Jay – We shud have had a single world cup of aamir vs srk instead of these 2 back to back tournaments. That would have been a high-profile Test match instead of numerous t20s. Also a test match that Aamir wud win by an innings or more …

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  39. We should have had qualifying rounds for the Mela slot …

    Aatank Hi Aatank vs Parampara
    Love Love Love vs Tum Mere Ho
    Deewana Mujh Sa Nehin vs Awwal No.
    Jawani Zindabad vs Isi Ka Naam Zindagi
    Daulat Ki Jung vs Mela

    How can we forget this ‘learning curve’?

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  40. TOH versus Mogul!

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  41. Round 1

    Qayamat Se Qayamat Tak
    Ghajini
    Rangeela
    3 Idiots
    Dil
    Lagaan
    Raja Hindustani
    Dil Chahta Hai
    Dil Hai Ke Manta Nahin
    Dhoom 3
    Jo Jeeta Wohi Sikander
    Rang De Basanti
    Hum Hain Rahi Pyar Ke
    Dangal
    Andaz Apna Apna
    Taare Zameen Par

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  42. My Choices for Round 1:

    Qayamat Se Qayamat Tak
    Ghajini (love this film!)
    Rangeela
    3 Idiots
    Akele Hum Akele Tum
    Dhobi Ghat (Touch choice but I like this more)
    Afsana Pyar Ka (Terrible film though I still like Tip Tip Barsa Paani)
    Talaash (If I had my way this film should win!)
    Dil Hai Ke Manta Nahin
    Mangal Pandey
    Jo Jeeta Wohi Sikander (Both films are remakes; like this much more)
    Rang De Basanti (This is really unfortunate; I really really like PK)
    Earth
    Dangal
    Andaz Apna Apna (Find Sarfarosh overrated)
    Taare Zameen Par

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  43. Quite a few Hollywood remakes in this list:

    Mann — An Affair to Remember
    Ghulam — On The Waterfront
    Akele Hum Akele Tum — Kramer Vs Kramer
    DHKMN — It Happened One Night
    JJWS — Breaking Away (not a complete remake though)
    Fanaa — Story taken from Ken Follett’s Eye of the Needle; not sure if Hollywood has made a film on it

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  44. The best ‘look’ in 30 years …

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  45. Nice collection of Aamir songs here (BGM for this world cup):

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  46. QSQT
    Ghajini
    Rangeela
    3I
    Dil
    Lagaan
    APK
    DCH
    Ishq
    MP
    JJWS
    RDB
    Earth
    Dangal
    AAA
    TZP

    Evil of you to force a knock out betn:
    Fanaa-Dangal
    DCH-Talaash
    JJWS-Ghulam
    RDB-PK
    MP-D3

    4 of these cudve been salvaged by being paired against DHKMN, Ishq, APK and RH.

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  47. I would like someone to remake Hollywood’s Double Jeopardy…not exactly a classic but I truly loved that film back in the 90’s.

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  48. Round 1 voting is still in progress, but I have updated standings based on the 24 votes so far.

    Group 1 – QSQT has 100% votes so far, though is probably against the worst film in this tournament.
    Group 6 – PK is in trouble early on here. Tough match up with RDB has proved to be too hot for it. It still has to match up against Ghulam & JJWS. TOUGH GROUP, will the Hirani-Aamir combo see an early exit?
    Group 7 – very close match up between Hum Hain Rahi Pyar Ke & Earth, this might prove to be crucial in the outcome here as Dangal is early favourite to top this group. TOUGH GROUP
    Group 8 – Another big match up between AAA and Sarfarosh is crucial. The latter has edged it so far. Another TOUGH GROUP

    Group leaders currently are QSQT, 3 Idiots, Lagaan, Raja Hindustani, Dil Hai Ke Manta Nahin, Jo Jeeta Wohi Sikander/Rang De Basanti, Dangal, Taare Zameen Par…things will change when we get to Round 2 of Group stage tomorrow in 36 hours.

    Carry on voting if you haven’t on Round 1 matches. They are in the post.

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  49. I used to be Tom, but there’s a new Tom now (the Tom who wrote about the TOH trailer).

    Already at my last post I changed my name and the old Tom here is now the new Tom D.

    My vote:
    QSQT
    Mann
    3i
    Raakh
    LAGAAN
    Dhobi Ghat
    DCH
    Talaash
    Mangal Pandey
    DHKMN
    RDB
    JJWS
    Dangal
    HHRPK
    TZP
    SeSu

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    • Tom D you need to choose from this please

      Qayamat Se Qayamat Tak Vs Baazi
      Mann Vs Ghajini
      Raakh Vs Rangeela
      Holi Vs 3 Idiots
      Dil Vs Akele Hum Akele Tum
      Lagaan Vs Dhobi Ghat
      Afsana Pyar Ka Vs Raja Hindustani
      Dil Chahta Hai Vs Talaash
      Dil Hai Ke Manta Nahin Vs Ishq
      Mangal Pandey Vs Dhoom 3
      Jo Jeeta Wohi Sikander Vs Ghulam
      Rang De Basanti Vs PK
      Hum Hain Rahi Pyar Ke Vs Earth
      Fanaa Vs Dangal
      Andaz Apna Apna Vs Sarfarosh
      Taare Zameen Par Vs Secret Superstar

      Seems you’ve picked your 2 favourite films from each group…

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      • Okay, thank you, I somehow got it wrong…

        Qayamat Se Qayamat Tak
        Ghajini
        Raakh
        3 Idioten
        Akele Hum Akele Tum
        Lagaan
        Afsana Pyar Ka
        Talaash
        Dil Hai Ke Manta Nahin
        Mangal Pandey
        Jo Jeeta Wohi Sikander
        Rang De Basanti
        Hum Hain Rahi Pyar Ke
        Dangal
        Sarfarosh
        Taare Zameen Par

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    • Now I got it. I thought why you suddenly turned against toh and aamir.

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  50. 12 final hours for votes but as it’s group stages (3 rounds) anyone can vote as long as they end up voting for each of the 3 group match ups.

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    • It is always fun to see votes per round basis..But there are commentators who come less frequently…If people want to vote for all 3 rounds in one go they should be allowed?

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      • That’s what I just confirmed. Qalander did it – so it’s fine. I’m obviously trying to drive some process here for my own purposes as it’s easier to manage but happy to deal with 3 rounds of votes!

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  51. Waiting for round 2.

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  52. Round 2 matches are ready…(in the post above) and in this comment…
    Qayamat Se Qayamat Tak Vs Mann
    Baazi Vs Ghajini
    Raakh Vs Holi
    Rangeela Vs 3 Idiots
    Dil Vs Lagaan
    Akele Hum Akele Tum Vs Dhobi Ghat
    Afsana Pyar Ka Vs Dil Chahta Hai
    Raja Hindustani Vs Talaash
    Dil Hai Ke Manta Nahin vs Mangal Pandey
    Ishq Vs Dhoom 3
    Jo Jeeta Wohi Sikander vs Rang De Basanti
    Ghulam Vs PK
    Hum Hain Rahi Pyar Ke vs Fanaa
    Earth Vs Dangal
    Andaz Apna Apna vs Taare Zameen Par
    Sarfarosh Vs Secret Superstar

    You can enter the voting but please vote for both Round 1 & 2 matches (in the post above), otherwise those that voted in Round 1 can now vote for Round 2. Voting will continue to be open for groups beyond Tuesday 8PM GMT but I will share an update on standings at the end of Round 2 on Tuesday.

    For now an update on standings after Round 1 (25 votes) is in the post.

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  53. Round 2 vote – mine

    Qayamat Se Qayamat Tak
    Ghajini
    Raakh
    3 Idiots
    Lagaan
    Akele Hum Akele Tum
    Dil Chahta Hai
    Talaash
    Mangal Pandey
    Dhoom 3
    Jo Jeeta Wohi Sikander
    PK
    Fanaa
    Dangal
    Taare Zameen Par
    Sarfarosh

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  54. QSQT
    Ghajini
    Holi
    Rangeela
    Lagaan
    Dhobi Ghat
    DCH
    Talaash
    DHKMN
    Dhoom3
    JJWS
    PK
    HHRPK
    Dangal
    AAA
    Sarfrosh

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  55. QSQT
    Ghajini
    Holi
    Rangeela
    Lagaan
    Dhobi Ghaat
    DCH
    Talaash
    MP
    D3
    JJWS
    Ghulam
    Fanaa
    Dangal
    TZP
    Sarfarosh

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    • I initially chose Holi over Raakh because I like it more. Then I changed it to Raakh as I felt it might be harder to treat Holi as an Aamir film. But then I had a second redo and chose Holi once more! Actually he does have a substantial part here.

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      • Ha! I’m just reading up on Holi. Nasser, Om Puri…crap never heard of this film till it’s been mentioned here.

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        • My choices landed at the wrong place!!

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        • you should certainly check it out if you get the chance. Aamir of curse did MP with Ketan Mehta decades later!

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          • For starters, Aamir was in Ketan Mehta’s mind for the lead role but Aamir had a break up during that period and shaved his head due to the rejection!! So when Aamir met Mr. Mehta, he was surprised looking him bald, then Aamir narrated the whole story; then came his good friend Ashutosh Gowarikar as a lead and Aamir as one of the supporting actors!!

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          • I haven’t seen Holi, hence voted for Raakh — but it isn’t a fair vote. D3 and it are the only films on this list I haven’t seen

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  56. AamirsFan Says:

    Qayamat Se Qayamat Tak
    Ghajini
    Raakh
    Rangeela
    Lagaan
    Akele Hum Akele Tum
    Dil Chahta Hai
    Talaash
    Mangal Pandey
    Dhoom 3
    Rang De Basanti
    PK
    Hum Hain Rahi Pyar Ke
    Earth
    Andaz Apna Apna
    Sarfarosh

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  57. 2nd round votes from Jeeves. Please vote the same
    Qayamat Se Qayamat Tak
    Ghajini
    Holi
    Rangeela
    Lagaan
    Dhobi Ghat
    Dil Chahta Hai
    Talaash
    Dil Hai Ke Manta Nahin
    Dhoom 3
    Rang De Basanti
    Ghulam
    Hum Hain Rahi Pyar Ke
    Earthl
    Andaz Apna Apna
    Secret Superstar

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  58. Mann
    Ghajini
    Holi
    Rangeela
    Lagaan
    Akele Hum Akele Tum
    Dil Chahta Hai
    Talaash
    Dil Hai Ke Manta Nahin
    Dhoom 3
    Rang De Basanti
    Ghulam
    Fanaa
    Earth
    Taare Zameen Par
    Secret Superstar

    I did not watch Raakh or Holi. I simply ticked.

    I went for Mann because of less gore and less tension vis a vis QSQT. I love Mann’s songs more.

    Baazi I saw only some parts.

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    • Ghulam has more blood than PK. But the direction is more compact and gripping. I dont care much for originality in films or songs. The final result should be good.
      Not much bothered about layers or nuance.
      QSQT is far superior. But Mann has its moments. I love cruises, oceans and ships. And well shot songs without too many background dancers.

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      • QSQT will win even if my vote is not there. I felt bad about Mann getting zero or one!

        As for gore, there are 2 or 3 knifings! Ghulam is more bloody for that matter but it is a story well directed even if it is plagiarised.

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    • What ‘gore’ is there in QSQT?!

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  59. A straightforward and well rounded story is my choice most of the time. At the end of it I should feel happy than start thinking. It does not mean that I dont like the thinking cinema. But when it comes to choose with a gun pointing at my head, then I will go for the former with some regret for not choosing the latter. It is like choosing father or mother or one child over the other. Very difficult.

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  60. Round 2 votes:

    Qayamat Se Qayamat Tak
    Ghajini
    Raakh
    3 Idiots
    Lagaan
    Dhobi Ghat
    Dil Chahta Hai
    Talaash
    Dil Hai Ke Manta Nahin
    Dhoom 3
    Rang De Basanti
    PK
    Hum Hain Rahi Pyar Ke
    Dangal
    Taare Zameen Par
    Sarfarosh

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  61. QSQT
    Ghajini
    Raakh
    Rangeela
    Lagaan
    DG
    DCH
    Talaash
    DHKMN
    D3
    RDB
    Ghulam
    Fanaa
    Dangal
    TZP
    SS

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  62. Votes for Round 2. JJWS v RDB was a tough one here:

    Qayamat Se Qayamat Tak
    Ghajini
    Raakh
    3 Idiots
    Lagaan
    Akele Hum Akele Tum
    Dil Chahta Hai
    Raja Hindustani
    Dil Hai Ke Manta Nahin
    Ishq
    Jo Jeeta Wohi Sikander
    Ghulam
    Hum Hain Rahi Pyar Ke
    Earth
    Andaz Apna Apna
    Sarfarosh

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  63. tonymontana Says:

    Round 2:

    Qayamat Se Qayamat Tak
    Ghajini
    Raakh
    3 Idiots
    Lagaan
    Dhobi Ghat
    Dil Chahta Hai
    Talaash
    Dil Hai Ke Manta Nahin
    Dhoom 3
    Rang De Basanti
    PK
    Hum Hain Rahi Pyar Ke
    Dangal
    Andaz Apna Apna
    Secret Superstar

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  64. Round 2

    Qayamat Se Qayamat Tak
    Ghajini
    Raakh
    3 Idiots
    Lagaan
    Akele Hum Akele Tum
    Dil Chahta Hai
    Talaash
    Dil Hai Ke Manta Nahin
    Ishq
    Jo Jeeta Wohi Sikander vs Rang De Basanti
    PK
    Hum Hain Rahi Pyar Ke
    Dangal
    Andaz Apna Apna
    Sarfarosh

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  65. Round 2

    Qayamat Se Qayamat Tak
    Ghajini
    Raakh
    3 Idiots
    Lagaan
    Akele Hum Akele Tum
    Dil Chahta Hai
    Talaash
    Dil Hai Ke Manta Nahin
    Ishq
    Jo Jeeta Wohi Sikander
    PK
    Hum Hain Rahi Pyar Ke
    Earth Vs Dangal
    Andaz Apna Apna vs Taare Zameen Par
    Sarfarosh Vs Secret Superstar

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    • SP please pick from last 3 match ups!

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      • Sorry. Round 2 again.

        Qayamat Se Qayamat Tak
        Ghajini
        Raakh
        3 Idiots
        Lagaan
        Akele Hum Akele Tum
        Dil Chahta Hai
        Talaash
        Dil Hai Ke Manta Nahin
        Ishq
        Jo Jeeta Wohi Sikander
        PK
        Hum Hain Rahi Pyar Ke
        Dangal
        Andaz Apna Apna
        Sarfarosh

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  66. aamirsaurabh Says:

    Second round vote-

    Qayamat Se Qayamat Tak
    Ghajini
    Raakh
    3 Idiots
    Lagaan
    Akele Hum Akele Tum
    Dil Chahta Hai
    Talaash(Hands down)-My vote always for Talaash against any opponent.
    Mangal Pandey
    Ishq
    Rang De Basanti(Very tough-RDB just by a margin)
    PK
    Fanaa
    Dangal(Tough one)
    Taare Zameen Par
    Sarfarosh

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  67. My vote for round 2

    Qayamat Se Qayamat Tak
    Ghajini
    Raakh
    Rangeela
    Lagaan
    Akele Hum Akele Tum
    Dil Chahta Hai
    Talaash
    Dil Hai Ke Manta Nahin
    Ishq
    Jo Jeeta Wohi Sikander
    PK
    Hum Hain Rahi Pyar
    Dangal
    Andaz Apna Apna
    Sarfarosh

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  68. 2nd Round Picks:

    Qayamat Se Qayamat Tak Vs Mann
    QSQT

    Baazi Vs Ghajini
    Ghajini

    Raakh Vs Holi
    Raakh

    Rangeela Vs 3 Idiots
    3I

    Dil Vs Lagaan
    Lagaan

    Akele Hum Akele Tum Vs Dhobi Ghat
    DG

    Afsana Pyar Ka Vs Dil Chahta Hai
    DCH

    Raja Hindustani Vs Talaash
    Talaash

    Dil Hai Ke Manta Nahin vs Mangal Pandey
    MP

    Ishq Vs Dhoom 3
    D3

    Jo Jeeta Wohi Sikander vs Rang De Basanti
    JJWS

    Ghulam Vs PK
    PK

    Hum Hain Rahi Pyar Ke vs Fanaa
    Fanaa

    Earth Vs Dangal
    Dangal

    Andaz Apna Apna vs Taare Zameen Par
    AAA

    Sarfarosh Vs Secret Superstar
    Sarfarosh

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  69. Round 2 :

    Qayamat Se Qayamat Tak
    Ghajini
    Raakh
    Rangeela
    Lagaan
    Dhobi Ghat
    Dil Chahta Hai
    Talaash
    Dil Hai Ke Manta Nahin
    Ishq
    Rang De Basanti
    PK
    Hum Hain Rahi Pyar Ke
    Dangal
    Andaz Apna Apna
    Secret Superstar

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  70. Want these as QF whether I voted for them or not.

    Dangal

    Lagaan

    3 Idiots

    TZP

    QSQT

    Talaash

    PK

    Secret Superstar

    Incidentally 3 films were directed by women. Earth, DG and Talaash.

    Aamir acted in wacky comedy roles in Rangeela, AAA, SS and 3 Idiots.

    Two sports films if we leave Awwal Number. Lagaan and Dangal. Ghulam?

    3 action films starting from Ghulam, Ghajini and Sarfarosh. Dhoom 3?

    Some loud ones like RH and Dil.

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    • No love for Rang De Basanti?

      If I could pick the final 2, they would be Talaash & Rang De Basanti. After that I wouldn’t care which film eventually wins.

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      • I missed it. It has tremedous music too and repeat value.

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        • tremendous music I meant. AR at his best.

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        • Not just that, it has gorgeous, absolutely gorgeous, camera work. It is, technically speaking, a flawless film. Yes, it has some troublesome politics embedded into the narrative, but that’s a separate debate.

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          • Agree completely. RDB is a visual splendour, musical delight and a wonderful story told cleverly.

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          • Troublesome politics? Rdb is an epitome of what aamir stands for in the bigger icture (from qsqt to dangal) – rebel against the status quo. 🖕🏻

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          • First off, QSQT isn’t an example of rebelling against the status quo. If that is the case then most love stories would fit the bill as well. That’s a very loose definition of the term.

            Second, RDB encourages an armed rebellion of sorts, which judged by any criteria, is problematic. The Naxal movement, for instance, is also about an armed conflict against the state or the establishment. There is a good reason for not calling it a mere rebellion against the status quo.

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          • I wont equate rdb with naxal movement. The latter is an ‘idealist’ rebellion, while rdb is about retaliation to govt corruption due to personal loss. Saying both are about armed rebellion is an ideological shortcut IMO.

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          • The politics, in both cases, is the same. It is about taking up arms against the state/establishment, as opposed to following a democratic process. Peasants who join the Naxal movement are also goaded by state corruption, and in some cases, loss of wealth/land.

            It is a bit of a cop-out, I’m afraid. Rakeysh Mehra took pains to point out that he wanted people to be more politically aware, to be more willing to take a stand, after watching the movie. But had he shown just that, in the end, the movie would have ended without emotional catharsis for the viewers. Hence the need to stage the murder, which is only a plot device, but it strongly conveys an extremist message.

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          • despite my admiration for Mehra’s great filmmaking strengths I too have been a bit of a naysayer on the film’s politics.

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          • Ah, glad you posted this, I had been meaning to go look for this!

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          • I’d also add this here — ‘extremism’ is not something self-evident for me. I of course don’t support violent political acts. But there is an ‘extremism’ of the state that usually precedes it. In other words the ‘extremism’ of the state is usually not even defined as such while the kind that comes around in response is immediately tagged ‘crazy’ or ‘illegitimate’ or what have you. So the state sets the terms of the debate at both ends. State violence cannot be defined as ‘extremist’ or ‘terrorist’ while the other side’s can be. as in so many other areas of life this then becomes a struggle over meaning. The state is quite naturally hegemonic even here. To be clear I am not defending certain kinds of political actions. At the same time that which the state does is never presented except in the most bland business-as-usual language. The exceptions are of course those states which becomes international pariahs and then the very same language is applicable to them as well.

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    • Hahahaha. Already in QF mode? What if I do a Big Brother style in and out. Replace Mela with Lagaan LOL

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  71. Round 2

    Qayamat Se Qayamat Tak
    Ghajini
    Raakh
    3 Idiots
    Lagaan
    Dhobi Ghat
    Dil Chahta Hai
    Talaash
    Dil Hai Ke Manta Nahi
    Dhoom 3
    Jo Jeeta Wohi Sikandar
    PK
    Hum Hain Rahi Pyaar Ke
    Dangal
    Andaz Apna Apna
    Sarfarosh

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  72. Amit Pandey Says:

    Round 2:
    Qayamat Se Qayamat Tak
    Ghajini
    Raakh
    3 Idiots
    Lagaan
    Akele Hum Akele Tum
    Dil Chahta Hai
    Raja Hindustani
    Dil Hai Ke Manta Nahin
    Ishq
    Jo Jeeta Wohi Sikander
    Ghulam
    Fanaa
    Dangal
    Andaz Apna Apna
    Sarfarosh

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  73. I’m excited to update this. Feels like PK is in deep trouble here. Clearly not a highly rated film relative to JJWS or RDB. I’m surprised many are voting Ghulam over it too! I sense an AAA fightback.

    Also Rangeela over 3 Idiots too for a lot. Small film like Dhobi Ghat is doing well, it will be an upset IMO to knock out AHAT.

    Ishq Vs Dhoom 3 is the worst match in this round. A couple of unwatchable films…

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    • I would like essays from Qalander, Saket & Satyam on the merits of Ishq or Dhoom 3 – rangan style!

      Something like ‘first half pallette of Dhoom 3 is like a…’ or ‘[Ishq] a metaphor for the love between…’ or ‘Dhoom 3 and Ishq…’

      Guess who 😂

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  74. Jay, why don’t you come up with superstars -male
    Raj Kapoor, Dev Anand, Dilip Kumar, Amitabh Bachchan, Aamir Khan, SRK, Salman Khan, Sunny Deol, Anil Kapoor, Sanjay Dutt, Ajay Devgn, Sunil Dutt, Rajendra Kumar, Rishi Kapoor, Vinod Khanna, Shashi Kapoor, Dharmendra, Ranbir Kapoor, Jackie Shroff, Govinda, Ranveer Singh, Prithviraj Kapoor, Shammi Kapoor, Rajendra Kumar, Raj Kumar, Jeetendra, Guru Dutt, Sanjeev Kumar, Akshay Kumar, Rajesh Khanna, Balraj Sahni, Feroz Khan, Ashok Kumar, Kishore Kumar, Hrithik Roshan, etc contest?

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    • And one for females also Nargis, Geeta Bali, Madhubala, Meena Kumari, Vyjantimala, Sridevi, Meenakshi, Juhi, Kajol, Kareena, Karishma, Alia, Vidya, Kangana, Hema, Jaya, Rekha, Sharmila, Nutan, Tanuja, Waheeda etc etc

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  75. SP – please update your last 3 votes
    Waiting on JustaFan, Shalini, Shivaay, Saket & Tom D for Round 2
    New voters welcome.

    Updated group standings in post after 90 votes over 2 rounds.

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  76. The big shock here looks like being PK going out! Earth and HHRPK are really close still and Group 8 very tough to call as the final match will decide it. Sarfarosh might be in trouble here or Taare Zameen Par as Andaz Apna Apna faces Secret Superstar which has struggled in this Group of Death in the final match up.

    Every vote counts!

    Round 3 will start tomorrow around this time!

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    • PK going out will be too harsh. It’s a very fine film…Hirani’s 2nd best, after LRM

      At least IMO. I’m not a big fan of 3 Idiots though.

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  77. Round 2 Picks:

    Qayamat Se Qayamat Tak
    Ghajini
    Raakh (Don’t recall much about Holi)
    Rangeela
    Lagaan
    Dhobi Ghat
    Dil Chahta Hai
    Talaash
    Mangal Pandey
    Dhoom 3
    Rang De Basanti
    PK
    Hum Hain Rahi Pyar Ke
    Dangal
    Taare Zameen Par
    Secret Superstar

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  78. Likely finalists

    Lagaan, Dangal

    QSQT, TZP

    3 Idiots, Ghajini

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  79. Unlikely finalists

    Talaash, Earth

    RDB, DCH

    Sarfarosh, AAA

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  80. surprise upsets

    DHKMN
    JJWS
    Rangeela

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  81. Having doubts if PK and Earth will make it to round of 16, which will be harsh. Tough groups they are in.

    Apart from that no surprises yet …

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    • Earth has chances as hhrpk goes up against Dangal next whereas Earth has Fanaa. It can get through potentially…

      PK – agree it’s tough on it but it not getting out of the group here suggests it was an unlikely winner overall.

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      • Fanaa will gets its share of votes when pitched against Earth.

        MP and DHKMN are getting the advantage of being in the weakest group. PK would have made it if the round robin was with seeding. Earth will always struggle against commercial heavyweights.

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  82. Group 5 was weak so in hindsight, swapping Dhoom 3 for PK may have been fairer but I don’t want to fiddle too much here.

    I like PK a lot but I think here I am not surprised (it’s more surprising that a lot prefer Ghulam to it than RDB or JJWS). Also I think 3 Idiots will eventually struggle too.

    Round of 16 will be tough here such is the competition. Only Group A has confirmed places. Otherwise it’s still a tough group phase and last match up will count.

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  83. My revised and last list.

    Qayamat Se Qayamat Tak
    Ghajini
    Raakh
    3 Idiots
    Lagaan
    Dhobi Ghat
    Dil Chahta Hai
    Talaash
    Mangal Pandey
    Dhoom 3
    Rang De Basanti
    PK
    Fanaa
    Dangal
    Taare Zameen Par
    Sarfarosh

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  84. thecooldude Says:

    QSQT
    Ghajini
    Raakh
    3 idiots
    Lagaan
    AHAT
    DCH
    Talaash
    DHKMN
    Dhoom 3
    JJWS
    PK
    HHRPK
    Dangal
    AAA
    SS

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  85. Round 2:

    QSQT
    Ghajini
    Raakh
    Rangeela
    Lagaan
    Dhobi Ghat
    DCH
    Talaash
    DHKMN
    Ishq
    RDB
    Ghulam
    HHRPK
    Dangal
    AAA
    Sarfarosh

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  86. Round 3 – standings updated in post
    Qayamat Se Qayamat Tak Vs Ghajini
    Baazi Vs Mann
    Raakh Vs 3 Idiots
    Rangeela Vs Holi
    Dil Vs Dhobi Ghat
    Akele Hum Akele Tum Vs Lagaan
    Afsana Pyar Ka Vs Talaash
    Raja Hindustani Vs Dil Chahta Hai
    Dil Hai Ke Manta Nahin Vs Dhoom 3
    Ishq Vs Mangal Pandey
    Jo Jeeta Wohi Sikander Vs PK
    Ghulam Vs Rang De Basanti
    Hum Hain Rahi Pyar Ke Vs Dangal
    Earth Vs Fanaa
    Andaz Apna Apna Vs Secret Superstar
    Sarfarosh Vs Taare Zameen Par

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  87. Round 3 vote
    Qayamat Se Qayamat Tak
    Mann
    3 Idiots
    Rangeela
    Dil
    Lagaan
    Talaash
    Dil Chahta Hai
    Dil Hai Ke Manta Nahin
    Mangal Pandey
    Jo Jeeta Wohi Sikander
    Rang De Basanti
    Dangal
    Earth
    Andaz Apna Apna
    Taare Zameen Par

    Group 6, 7 & 8 are very close. We could lose PK, HHRPK/Earth or TZP/Sarfarosh (if AAA mounts a comeback!)…

    Vote carefully and fairly!

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  88. You can join by voting in all 3 rounds…(in the post)

    Tom D/Shivaay – please vote Round 2 and 3, everyone else who has voted only vote Round 3 as you have voted Round 1 & 2

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  89. Round 3:

    QSQT
    Mann
    3I
    Rangeela
    DG
    Lagaan
    Talaash
    DCH
    DHKMN
    MP
    JJWS
    RDB
    Dangal
    Fanaa
    Secret Superstar
    Sarfarosh

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    • Round 3:

      QSQT
      Mann
      3 Idiots
      Rangeela
      Dhobi Ghat
      Lagaan
      Talaash
      Dil Chahta Hai
      DHKMN
      Mangal Pandey
      JJWS
      Rang de Basanti
      Dangal
      Fanaa
      Secret Superstar
      Sarfarosh

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      • Ha, we have voted identically this time. Some here will smell a conspiracy!

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        • Qalander just did some different abbreviations and full names to make it look legit!

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        • Fanaa vs. Earth was an especially tough one, as was Ghulam vs. RDB (I dislike the politics of RDB, and ultimately went with the superior film, even though Ghulam’s “small scale” masala is very close to my heart). With Fanaa, I went for the massy Aamir film as opposed to the ensemble cast-driven Earth; and while Earth is a much more meaningful film than the vacuous Fanaa, I am not sure it is a better made film — Fanaa is quite fluid, and features one of Aamir’s best performances. On the rest, well I have always considered AAA to be overrated (I re-visited it a couple of years ago and it was still quite dull — with the exception of one scene (“Mujhe wahaan ki… shaam bahut pasand hai”) which is one for the ages — and I am well aware I am in the minority on this one; in the culture at large it is easily one of Aamir’s more resonant films)…

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          • agree more or less with everything here.

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          • I’m going to quote Pauline Kael here: “Movies can be enjoyed for the quality of their confusions and failures, and that’s the only way you can enjoy some of them now.”

            RDB is probably a muddled mess in terms of its politics. But it sure is a very interesting failure!

            I will also add what a gorgeous looking failure it is. Not postcard pretty, but bringing that grunge vibe to life through its cinematography and clever editing.

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      • Round 3

        QSQT
        Mann
        Raakh
        Rangeela
        Dhobi Ghat
        AHAT
        Talaash
        DCH
        DHKMN
        MP
        PK
        RDB
        Dangal
        1947-Earth
        AAA
        Sarfarosh

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  90. Will Baazi finally score?
    Can Dhobi Ghat trounce Dil and mount a comeback against Akele Hum Akele Tum?
    Can Dhoom 3 beat Mangal Pandey in head to head by 9 votes to qualify?
    PK is heading out – very tough draw. Hirani and Aamir’s second highest grosser was in a tough group… the big shock in the group phase…
    Can Earth out score Hum Hain Rahi Pyar Ka by 8 votes?
    Will Andaz Apna Apna score enough to knock out either Sarfarosh or Taare Zameen Par…not quite a shock but another solid film is going out from these 3!

    2 days left to find out… Thursday night GMT 8pm, group stage is OVER and we will be in knockout phase with final 16!

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  91. thecooldude Says:

    Round 3…

    QSQT
    Baazi
    3 idiots
    Rangeela
    DG
    Lagaan
    Talaash
    DCH
    DHKMN
    MP
    JJWS
    RDB
    Dangal
    Fanaa
    AAA
    TZP

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  92. Round 3 Picks:

    Ghajini
    Mann (Damn, this was tough!)
    3 Idiots
    Rangeela
    Dhobi Ghat
    Lagaan
    Talaash
    Dil Chahta Hai
    Dil Hai Ke Manta Nahin
    Mangal Pandey
    PK
    Rang De Basanti
    Dangal
    Earth
    Secret Superstar
    Taare Zameen Par

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    • Mann is decent. Just a little below Fanaa – completely watchable movie. When I watched it I actually thought it finished at the intermission, was ready to up and leave and then the second half slog began…

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    • This whole idea of retrospectively grading cinema is good on at least two counts: one, we get to re-calibrate our choices, in some cases, decades after a film first released (there’s always a chance that recency bias could cloud our judgment, but I trust everyone not to fall into that trap). And two, we start debating the merits and demerits of certain films. The latter point, to my mind at least, is the raison d’être of this thread.

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      • For me the first reason I am personally more likely to go the other way – childhood memories will probably cloud me more than recency but I will be as fair as possible.

        The second point I am still waiting for reviews on Ishq and Dhoom 3 to confirm that point…

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        • I have certainly changed my stance on Ghulam since I first watched it.

          This may sound blasphemous but I’m not in love with Lagaan anymore.

          I still like Rangeela but I find the lack of vulnerability in Aamir’s character a flaw in the film. I mean, Munna is a tapori with a bit of swag but surely he must have realized he doesn’t stand a chance against Jackie Shroff. That aspect of his character remains unexplored. It could be RGV’s undoing, but this is how I feel today.

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  93. 3rd round:

    Ghajini
    Baazi
    3 idiots
    Rangeela
    Dhobi Ghat
    Lagaan
    Talaash
    DCH
    DHKMN
    Mangal Pandey
    JJWS
    RDB
    Dangal
    Earth
    AAA
    Sarfrosh

    ps – I haven’t seen some movies..so I pick randomly.

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  94. Round 3

    Qayamat Se Qayamat Tak
    Mann
    3 Idiots
    Rangeela
    Dil
    Lagaan
    Talaash
    Dil Chahta Hai
    Dil Hai Ke Manta Nahin
    Mangal Pandey
    Jo Jeeta Wohi Sikander
    Rang De Basanti
    Dangal
    Fanaa
    Andaz Apna Apna
    Sarfarosh

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  95. WTH? How can one possibly pick between Sarfarosh and TZP??? Choosing TZP merely because aamir was the director here too.

    Round 3 picks:

    Qayamat Se Qayamat Tak
    Mann
    3 Idiots
    Rangeela
    Dhobi Ghat
    Lagaan
    Talaash
    Dil Chahta Hai
    Dil Hai Ke Manta Nahin
    Mangal Pandey
    Jo Jeeta Wohi Sikander
    Rang De Basanti
    Dangal
    Earth
    Secret Superstar
    Taare Zameen Par

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    • Jay – Maybe you shud open a new thread once the knock-out stages and officially allow cursing while voting, its going to get tough.

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  96. IdeaUnique Says:

    Ghajini
    Mann
    3 Idiots
    Rangeela
    Dil
    Lagaan
    Talaash
    Dil Chahta Hai
    Dil Hai Ke Manta Nahin
    Mangal Pandey
    PK
    Ghulam
    Dangal
    Fanaa
    Andaz Apna Apna
    Sarfarosh

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  97. I will wait instead of changing lists.

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  98. IdeaUnique Says:

    Jay, I am not sure what is your criteria of pitching one movie against another – but in Aamir’s case, esp. post-Lagaan, he has mostly worked in different genres so it is impossible to choose between some of the pair for eg – how on earth can u choose from QSQT and Ghajini? both are good and different…..similarly AHAT and Lagaan – both different genres….RH vs DCH – again different genres….DHKMN vs D3, ishq Vs MP, JJWS vs PK, Ghulam Vs RDB….I think it is not possible to pitch these movies against each other…..u choose a genre and there u choose two diff. movies….but in aamir’s case, pre-lagaan has lot of romantic films but after that – it is all different – so the whole exercise can be fun but can not be taken very seriously…..

    Qayamat Se Qayamat Tak Vs Ghajini
    Baazi Vs Mann
    Raakh Vs 3 Idiots
    Rangeela Vs Holi
    Dil Vs Dhobi Ghat
    Akele Hum Akele Tum Vs Lagaan
    Afsana Pyar Ka Vs Talaash
    Raja Hindustani Vs Dil Chahta Hai
    Dil Hai Ke Manta Nahin Vs Dhoom 3
    Ishq Vs Mangal Pandey
    Jo Jeeta Wohi Sikander Vs PK
    Ghulam Vs Rang De Basanti
    Hum Hain Rahi Pyar Ke Vs Dangal
    Earth Vs Fanaa
    Andaz Apna Apna Vs Secret Superstar
    Sarfarosh Vs Taare Zameen Par

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    • You are missing the point. For Aamir’s cup, its a choice of genres.

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    • Ideaunique – this is your first vote. You’ve arrived late, please vote for all 3 rounds! That way you don’t unfairly impart some bias voting here. Read the post. In football you have teams that play 532 or 442 or 4411 or whatever – it’s all different. Just some harmless fun! Once we are done with groups you will probably hate the knockouts!

      First Round Group Matches

      Qayamat Se Qayamat Tak Vs Baazi
      Mann Vs Ghajini
      Raakh Vs Rangeela
      Holi Vs 3 Idiots
      Dil Vs Akele Hum Akele Tum
      Lagaan Vs Dhobi Ghat
      Afsana Pyar Ka Vs Raja Hindustani
      Dil Chahta Hai Vs Talaash
      Dil Hai Ke Manta Nahin Vs Ishq
      Mangal Pandey Vs Dhoom 3
      Jo Jeeta Wohi Sikander Vs Ghulam
      Rang De Basanti Vs PK
      Hum Hain Rahi Pyar Ke Vs Earth
      Fanaa Vs Dangal
      Andaz Apna Apna Vs Sarfarosh
      Taare Zameen Par Vs Secret Superstar

      2nd Round Group matches

      Qayamat Se Qayamat Tak Vs Mann
      Baazi Vs Ghajini
      Raakh Vs Holi
      Rangeela Vs 3 Idiots
      Dil Vs Lagaan
      Akele Hum Akele Tum Vs Dhobi Ghat
      Afsana Pyar Ka Vs Dil Chahta Hai
      Raja Hindustani Vs Talaash
      Dil Hai Ke Manta Nahin vs Mangal Pandey
      Ishq Vs Dhoom 3
      Jo Jeeta Wohi Sikander vs Rang De Basanti
      Ghulam Vs PK
      Hum Hain Rahi Pyar Ke vs Fanaa
      Earth Vs Dangal
      Andaz Apna Apna vs Taare Zameen Par
      Sarfarosh Vs Secret Superstar

      3rd Round Group matches

      Qayamat Se Qayamat Tak Vs Ghajini
      Baazi Vs Mann
      Raakh Vs 3 Idiots
      Rangeela Vs Holi
      Dil Vs Dhobi Ghat
      Akele Hum Akele Tum Vs Lagaan
      Afsana Pyar Ka Vs Talaash
      Raja Hindustani Vs Dil Chahta Hai
      Dil Hai Ke Manta Nahin Vs Dhoom 3
      Ishq Vs Mangal Pandey
      Jo Jeeta Wohi Sikander Vs PK
      Ghulam Vs Rang De Basanti
      Hum Hain Rahi Pyar Ke Vs Dangal
      Earth Vs Fanaa
      Andaz Apna Apna Vs Secret Superstar
      Sarfarosh Vs Taare Zameen Par

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  99. Ghajini
    Mann
    3 Idiots
    Rangeela
    Dhobi Ghat
    Lagaan
    Talaash
    Dil Chahta Hai
    Dil Hai Ke Manta Nahin
    Mangal Pandey
    PK
    Rang De Basanti
    Dangal
    Fanaa
    Secret Superstar
    Taare Zameen Par

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  100. tonymontana Says:

    Just wondering: why aren’t there many fans of Andaz Apna Apna in this group?

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    • Maybe it is pure comedy without message unlike 3 Idiots.
      If it was pitted against some other films, it would have been the choice. For example against Mann, Dil, even Rangeela, Dhobi Ghat, AHAT, Earth, Ishq perhaps it would have got some votes. As a pure comedy AAA is better than 3 Idiots.
      It is a very special movie.

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      • Also those who cant stand great salman may have a bias towards it.

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      • tonymontana Says:

        I would pick AAA against every Aamir movie except maybe Lagaan

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        • lol

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        • “I would pick AAA against every Aamir movie ”
          Same here. Never liked Lagaan.

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        • AAA is hilarious. I really like the soundtrack too. My vote against it Vs TZP or Sarfarosh was not easy. Salman or no Salman he is funny too here. Who can forget the toilet sequence here. This is a very cleverly written film. It is very refreshing comedy even if mindless as it mostly is about the writing.

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    • AAA is cult and DVD BB and ever line spoken is cult. Salman can be d reason for ppl not selecting it or ppl love 2 show off taste for high brow cinema in public and soaking the immense joyous pleasure of AAA in private. 🙂

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      • Its moronic fun, nothing great as such. Even its cult status is funny.

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        • Ur Opinion. I can say same thing for Lagaan.

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          • All commercial films are dumbed down (read moronic). Some more, some less.

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          • All movies are commercial where green bucks are at stake – be it Lagaan or AAA.
            It all narrows down 2 what triggers ur taste bud, experience at that moment and like pleasure principle, how human goes back again and again 2 that moment, breaks it in2 pieces and chews it and cherishes and relishes each piece.
            2 some Lagaan does it and 2 some AAA does it.

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        • tonymontana Says:

          It’s probably the greatest goofy slapstick icomedy in hindi cinema. does rather well for its genre. a big part of everyone’s growing up years, especially the 80s guys!

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          • When we friends group together, AAA is timeless thread that strings our memories, times we have spent watching it and how many times :). AAA lingo becomes our conversation, i;s dialogues, lines, when foolishness becomes so rich and rewarding experience.
            How many movies can do that?

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          • Herapheri?

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          • It’s on Netflix… AAA will gather votes here against SS and it will be a photofinish between AAA, TZP & Sarfarosh. That’s torturous! I’m cursing how these groups came out!

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          • I am listening to “Ye Raat Aur Ye Doori” on the way to work #AAA music…

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          • By sunday the suspense will be over.

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          • Maybe yes, but it doesnt mean much to the nineties guyz from my experience.

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          • It is also special because the two big Khans acted in it without any inhibitions of stardom before they became big.
            Triumph for Santoshi.
            Paresh Rawal.
            Mona Darling act.
            And the screenplay writers and story writer. But without this starcast it would not have worked this well.

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    • I love the movie and Tushar Bhatia’s quirky music..I forced my daughter to check the movie..She liked it and has seen it 2-3 times..
      When it released, I remember triple riding on scooter and caught by police..but that didn’t deter us..we went next day ..hall was sparsely filled…We loved the movie but knew that it will not work.

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  101. Qayamat Se Qayamat Tak
    Mann
    Raakh
    Holi
    Dhobi Ghat
    Lagaan
    Taalash
    Dil Chahta Hai
    Dil Hai Ke Manta Nahin
    Mangal Pandey
    PK
    Rang De Basanti
    Dangal
    Earth
    Secret Superstar
    Sarfarosh

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  102. Round 3 –
    Qayamat Se Qayamat Tak
    Mann
    3 Idiots
    Rangeela
    Dhobi Ghat
    Akele Hum Akele Tum
    Talaash
    Dil Chahta Hai
    Dil Hai Ke Manta Nahin
    Ishq
    Jo Jeeta Wohi Sikander
    Rang De Basanti
    Dangal
    Earth
    Andaz Apna Apna
    Taare Zameen Par

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  103. Round 3

    Qayamat Se Qayamat Tak
    Mann
    3 Idiots
    Rangeela
    Dil
    Lagaan
    Talaash
    Dil Chahta Hai
    Dil Hai Ke Manta Nahin
    Ishq
    Jo Jeeta Wohi Sikander
    Rang De Basanti
    Hum Hain Rahi Pyar Ke
    Earth
    Andaz Apna Apna
    Taare Zameen Par

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  104. Round 3

    Qayamat Se Qayamat Tak
    Baazi
    3 Idiots
    Rangeela
    Dhobi Ghat
    Lagaan
    Talaash
    Dil Chahta Hai
    Dil Hai Ke Manta Nahin
    Mangal Pandey
    Jo Jeeta Wohi Sikandar
    Rang De Basanti
    Dangal
    Earth
    Andaz Apna Apna
    Taare Zameen Par

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  105. Round 3 – standings updated in post
    Qayamat Se Qayamat Tak Vs Ghajini
    QSQT

    Baazi Vs Mann
    Mann

    Raakh Vs 3 Idiots
    3 Idiots

    Rangeela Vs Holi
    Rangeela ( How i wish Aamir gets to play a tapori again)

    Dil Vs Dhobi Ghat
    Dil

    Akele Hum Akele Tum Vs Lagaan
    Lagaan

    Afsana Pyar Ka Vs Talaash
    Talaash

    Raja Hindustani Vs Dil Chahta Hai
    Dil Chahta Hai

    Dil Hai Ke Manta Nahin Vs Dhoom 3
    DHKMN

    Ishq Vs Mangal Pandey
    MP

    Jo Jeeta Wohi Sikander Vs PK
    JJWS

    Ghulam Vs Rang De Basanti
    RDB

    Hum Hain Rahi Pyar Ke Vs Dangal
    HHRPK (Enjoyed HHRPK more, apart from Aamir, Juhi is too good in this.)

    Earth Vs Fanaa
    Earth

    Andaz Apna Apna Vs Secret Superstar
    AAA

    Sarfarosh Vs Taare Zameen Par
    TZP (This was very tough to choose)

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  106. Round 3

    Qayamat Se Qayamat Tak
    Mann
    3 Idiots
    Rangeela
    Dhobi Ghat
    Lagaan
    Talaash
    Dil Chahta Hai
    Dil Hai Ke Manta Nahin
    Ishq
    PK
    Rang De Basanti
    Dangal
    Fanaa
    Andaz Apna Apna
    Sarfarosh

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  107. 3rd Round Group matches

    Qayamat Se Qayamat Tak Vs Ghajini
    Can I call it tie? Jay, can u accomodate ties?

    Baazi Vs Mann
    Seen neither, and both are anyway about to get knocked out
    Mann

    Raakh Vs 3 Idiots
    3I

    Rangeela Vs Holi
    Rangeela

    Dil Vs Dhobi Ghat
    Dil

    Akele Hum Akele Tum Vs Lagaan
    Lagaan

    Afsana Pyar Ka Vs Talaash
    Talaash

    Raja Hindustani Vs Dil Chahta Hai
    DCH

    Dil Hai Ke Manta Nahin Vs Dhoom 3
    DHKMN

    Ishq Vs Mangal Pandey
    MP

    Jo Jeeta Wohi Sikander Vs PK
    so close, cud be another tie, but lets go with JJWS!

    Ghulam Vs Rang De Basanti
    RDB

    Hum Hain Rahi Pyar Ke Vs Dangal
    Dangal

    Earth Vs Fanaa
    Fanaa

    Andaz Apna Apna Vs Secret Superstar
    AAA

    Sarfarosh Vs Taare Zameen Par
    TZP

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    • No ties. But Group 1 is over so I’ll let it pass and give half each or something.

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    • Re: QSQT vs Ghajini
      I wasn’t even thinking of the ‘ageing’ of one vs the other. I just feel that they are both very high up there in Aamir’s oeuvre, and not just for the content but also for the historical context of their contributions to subsequent movies of their eras.
      As pointed out above, one ended the masala era, the other kick-started it back.
      With his inducing a fresh breath of life into the romance genre back in 1988, he ironically launched the careers of the other 2 Khans through the same genre.
      And yet again, in 2008, his venturing back into masala induced a fresh breath of life into at least the career of Sallu. SRK perhaps missed the boat on that one.

      As also the films themselves, and their strikingly dissimilar content, eg the endings to the love stories. In QSQT, a despondent fresh loverboy ends his life along with the death of his lover. No vendetta, just an acceptance of his fate. Versus in Ghajini, he becomes a vendetta driven maniac..

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      • Insightful comment here NYkavi…

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      • I still see masala in QSQT. There isn’t exaggeration in the plot but Juhi being terrorised by bad guys, a rebellion of sorts, some fight scenes, drama between families & a sense of loss at the end. Raj stabbing himself with the gift Reshmi gave to him it’s more Romeo & Juliet stuff. The real winner here was Mansoor Khan’s sensibilities as a director. Nothing is lavish like a YRF production. You can imagine what SRK and Kajol would find in a great big mountain in Kjo film. Not a tiny abandoned hut but a great big palace to live in.

        He’s great in JJWS again. This is a gem of a film. How many side stories are interwoven here. 2 brothers not getting along, father/son favouritism, school competitions & conflict, each brothers love story all in one. Each has its own story to tell. He is one director Aamir could trust blindly IMO. He also produced JTYJN, not a bad film again.

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        • Always regretted the fact that Mansoor Khan stopped working beyond a point. He also of course made Josh. The one subject he attempted which was uncharacteristic for him was AHAT.

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          • I don’t think he had a characteristic voice. He was one of those South Bombay dudes whose whole idea of cinema began and ended with Hollywood — as evidenced by the number of remakes he attempted (JJWS, AHAT & Josh).

            Yes, he’s better than the likes of Johar and Chopra but that’s already a very low bar.

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          • I tend to think the true Mansoor Khan is to be found in QSQT and JJWS. These are smaller, intimate films where he dials things down greatly relative to what one might expect from these genres. If you really pushed me I’d say QSQT is the only one of his films that really matters. It’s one that stands the test of time. It remains as fresh as ever. Coming from a huge Bobby fan I also think it’s the ultimate un-Bobby. Nonetheless I retain a weakness for JJWS as well. Josh admittedly doesn’t have as many true moments in the same sense. AHAT didn’t much for me but I’m also not a fan of the original.

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          • yes, that’s a fair analysis. QSQT and JJWS are his best films, by far.

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      • Well Raj actually kills the murderers in the end before taking his life. In Ghajini he decides to live after all the vendetta. Memento of course has a more complex ending, but lets leave it at that.

        Qsqt is more true to romance genre than masala films of the eighties! It was a breath of fresh air in a nauseating era of films.

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        • There were some pretty nauseating films (as in any era) but there were also some fantastic massy movies in the 1980s: the late 1980s in particular feature the (only) flowering of JP Dutta. Just consider that between 1985 and 1991 the man had Ghulami, Hathyar, Yateem, Batwara — all films on a huge canvas.* If one looks at somewhat smaller films this is also Bhatt’s finest period (with Dutt alone he has Kabzaa and Naam; there’s also Thikana and, slightly earlier in the decade, Arth as well). By contrast, the 1990s are overrated: barring a few Aamir films there really isn’t much that survives the test of time.

          *[One of the greatest cinematic disappointments of my life is that Dutta’s Bandhua with Bachchan never got made: with Dutta in that form, not to mention Bachchan in the politically charged title role of a bonded laborer, to not have the film is a crime. I’d settle for rushes at this point!]

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          • Tridev, Ram Lakhan, Tezaab & Parinda were some guilty pleasures.

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          • Yes, re-visited Tezaab and Parinda earlier this year: Tezaab is a very strong film, despite Anil Kapoor’s constant yelling and over-acting in it (he is much worse in Parinda)…

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          • To be fair, Parinda isn’t his film at all. I would rate Parinda very highly even today…as a cinematic spectacle. VVC’s best film, no doubt

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          • I agree that Parinda is VVC’s best film, although Eklavya is probably the best realized of his films (but good god, talk about a film that should have been longer!)

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          • Eklavya is certainly his most interesting failure. He really was onto something here but didn’t fully realize the potential of the story.

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          • the 80s was a terrible decade in terms of the average film being made at the time. But I’d easily take the top 10-20 of the 80s over a similar list for the 90s or beyond.

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          • my 80s list would be something like this (in no order except that Ghulami belongs at the top for me, I’d still say no commercial film has bettered it since):

            Ghulami
            Lawaaris
            Arth
            Aakrosh
            Kalyug
            Naseeb
            Kranti
            QSQT
            Parinda
            Naam
            Bemisaal
            Shakti
            Batwara
            Ek Chadar Maili Si
            New Delhi Times
            Masoom
            Khubsoorat
            Kabzaa
            Thikana
            Saaransh
            Namkeen
            Qurbani
            Mirch Masala
            Janam (TV)
            Woh Saat Din
            Paar
            Katha (though I prefer the Mohanlal remake)
            Ardh Satya
            Khandar
            Chandni
            Karz
            Hathyar
            Sadma (prefer Tamil original)
            Arjun
            Zara Si Zindagi (prefer Tamil original)
            Ankush
            The Burning train
            Tezaab

            I’m sure I’m forgetting some stuff. this is just off the top of my head. But even Chandni, not a special film by any means, is still way better than most of the Yashraj romances since. Now these are not all favorites of mine but a list of possibles if you will.

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          • Wow, seeing all these films listed together underscores the point made earlier: no way a “top of the 1990s” list looks anywhere near as impressive. I haven’t seen a few films here (Khandar, for instance). Mason I assume is just a typo for Masoom right?

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          • yes corrected it, added a couple of other films as well.

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          • forgot the Burning train (uncut version now available on some of the DVDs). Added this too.

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          • Holy shit that was a great film! Something also Chauceresque / medieval about this idea of a social pageant, with everyone going along on a journey. That notion of “shared social space” has vanished from our imagination — if a film today features people from different social classes “together”, one is either committing violence on the other or is a background servant-like character for the most part.

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          • great comment! Also added Tezaab.

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          • What about Rocky and Hero? i.e. did you forget or deliberately leave them off?

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          • Didn’t forget those. Hero is way better than Rocky but Ghai just hasn’t aged well.

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          • Yeah I haven’t re-visited (or felt like re-visiting!) any Ghai for years; only exception was Karz which I saw again a few years ago, and it was fantastic.

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          • Chandni is pretty good, was watching it recently. Perfectly watchable.

            Maine Pyar Kiya?

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          • It’s watchable in a very cheesy sort of way but hard to include it on such a list. I’d put Prem Pratigya before it.

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          • Yeah, I found Alok Nath nauseating in MPK long before I had ever heard of any of the recent allegations! (Perhaps the pervert in me suspects every overly-sanskaari-seeming person.)

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          • The true psychoanalytic insight here might be — the insistence on sanskaar in a rigid, unyielding sort of way is already a perversion! This as a universal matter across cultures. Something inhuman about it.

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          • Ha ha ha, and the best clip for this idea is THIS ONE, followed by THIS ONE. More sanskaari fun HERE.

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          • It’s very cheesy but sad as it may sound, I doubt I’ve watched ANY movie more in my entire life…..not my choice as well!

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          • Yes that is sad! No polite way to put it!

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          • I like Lamhe more though some of Anupam Kher’s and Sridevi’s comedy in the second half spoils the mood of the film. But Chandni is certainly the better (more even) film.

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          • @Satyam:

            you rate Ghulaami over Ardha Satya?

            AS was all time fav of member here b moniker ‘GF’.
            Ghulaami is JP best. And that train shot of Sanju in Hathyaar

            ps: Where is GF?

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          • GF rocks (I miss him here for sure); he was “goodfella” prior to that (on naachgaana.com)…

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      • Ghajini, one can interpret the end as Aamir and Jiah lived happily together later

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  108. Jay, I am feeling bad for Ghajini. Can I change my preference now? It will match with Saket’s if I am not mistaken!

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  110. tonymontana Says:

    ROUND 3:

    Qayamat Se Qayamat Tak
    Mann
    3 Idiots
    Rangeela
    Dhobi Ghat
    Lagaan
    Talaash
    Dil Chahta Hai
    Dil Hai Ke Manta Nahin
    Ishq
    Jo Jeeta Wohi Sikander
    Rang De Basanti
    Dangal
    Earth
    Andaz Apna Apna
    Taare Zameen Par

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  111. Jay – Whats the schedule for knockouts? Life is about to get batshit crazy for me in coming days.

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  112. Amit Pandey Says:

    Round 3
    Qayamat Se Qayamat Tak
    Mann
    3 Idiots
    Rangeela
    Dil
    Lagaan
    Talaash
    Dil Chahta Hai
    Dil Hai Ke Manta Nahin
    Ishq
    Jo Jeeta Wohi Sikander
    Rang De Basanti
    Dangal
    Fanaa
    Andaz Apna Apna
    Taare Zameen Par

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  113. Not sure of this, but did Juhi deliver any BO hit after her ‘split’ with Aamir post Ishq?

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  114. Round 3
    QSQT
    Mann( was watching it just now. realised the issues with thefilm. too long and Manisha is just bad)
    3I
    Rangeela
    DG
    Lagaan
    Talaash
    DCH
    DHKMN
    Ishq
    JJWS
    RDB
    Dangal
    Fanaa
    SS
    Sarfarosh

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  115. Oops I’ve just realized that this thread has been hijacked. Shouldn’t have mentioned the list here. Sorry Jay!

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  116. ROUND 3

    Qayamat Se Qayamat Tak Vs Ghajini
    Mann
    Idiots
    Rangeela
    Dhobi Ghat
    AHAT
    Talaash
    Raja Hindustani
    Dil Hai Ke Manta Nahin
    Mangal Pandey
    Jo Jeeta Wohi Sikander
    Rang De Basanti
    Dangal
    Earth
    Andaz Apna Apna
    Taare Zameen Par(Tough choice)

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  117. Ghajini Jayshah for me easily.I like those underneath emotions in it.

    one more thing even if i m not able to come here for further voting for any reason.Count my vote always for Talaash against any opponent.

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  118. Round 3:

    QSQT
    Baazi
    3 Idiots
    Rangeela
    Dhobi Ghat
    Lagaan
    Talaash
    DCH
    Dil Hai Ke Manta Nahin
    MP
    JJWS
    RDB
    Dangal
    Fanaa
    AAA
    Sarfarosh

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  119. Voting continues…for 24 hours ONLY before Knockout phase starts! Are you ready?

    I am missing the following

    Ideaunique – Round 1, 2 & 3, if you want to join. I may use your Round 3 vote as a substitute of anyone who doesn’t vote on Round 3
    Shivaay/Tom D – Round 2 & 3
    Aamirsfan – Round 3
    New voters – all 3 Rounds please

    Updated standings in post soon…

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  120. VOTES are crucial now, standings updated;
    Group 1 – QSQT, Ghajini through
    Group 2 – 3 Idiots, Rangeela through
    Group 3 – Lagaan through. Dhobi Ghat is 1 VOTE ahead of AHAT! WOW! It’s ahead on head to head by 13-10 also so a tie score sends Dhobi Ghat through. AHAT needs a 2 vote swing now!
    Group 4 – DCH, Talaash through
    Group 5 – DHKMN, Mangal Pandey through
    Group 6 – RDB, JJWS through
    Group 7 – Dangal through. Earth holds a 2 vote lead over HHRPK and a 13-12 head to head advantage. So HHRPK needs a 3 vote swing here…
    Group 8 – TZP is edging through it seems. Sarfarosh holds a 2 vote lead on AAA and a 15-10 head to head advantage. So AAA needs a 3 vote swing here…

    Group 3, 7 & 8 are photo finishes, oh it’s so gripping! Very exciting finale here…thanks for all the voting! A total of 1,121 votes (NYKavi I didn’t half your vote, so pointless as QSQT & Ghajini are through by miles)

    Over to you ideaunique, shivaay, tom d and aamirsfan to decide it here. I’m not accepting any changes in votes in light of closeness (especially from Sanjana)…

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    • Awesome stuff here Jay. Glad to see DG, Earth and Sarfarosh doing what they are doing in round robin stages … More power to them!

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    • Nice to see Dhobi Ghat & Earth close to getting through. It’s tough on PK/AHAT/HHRPK and especially AAA as things stand. Winning best film for Filmfare means nothing here for HHRPK!

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    • Vote change should be allowed within an hour of original comment. There could be genuine mistake. If really want to influence close contest then you possibly can vote just before close of voting 🙂

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      • Ok you’ve convinced me to give 1 hour…but only to those who have yet to vote. People who have technically had 1 hour or even more! Sanjana has days so far!

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    • PK getting mauled. Tough group.

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  121. Abstaining from Group 3 as I haven’t seen DG. 1,2,4,5,6 are dead and dusted so only voting for 7 and 8.

    Round 1

    HHRPK
    Dangal
    AAA
    TZP

    Round 2

    HHRPK
    Earth
    AAA
    Sarfarosh

    Round 3

    HHRPK
    Earth
    AAA
    Sarfarosh

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    • So HHRPK goes one up on Earth and AAA goes one up on Sarfarosh. We need some votes from the younger demographic …

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      • Earth and Sarfarosh still holding on to 2nd place in their respective groups. HHRPK and AAA are fighting back.

        This is going for a tight finish during this extra-time.

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    • Thanks JC, you’ve really appreciated and added to the tight finish here…

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  122. Looks like I am on radar!

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  123. What is going on with IMDB. What’s up with these english titles. The ratings seem to have adjusted and user numbers look low. Haven’t paid attention to the ratings in a while.

    https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0451148/?ref_=nv_sr_1#actor (Aamir)
    https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0451321/?ref_=nv_sr_1#actor (SRK)

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    • It seems imdb did some cleanup recently to remove multiple votes from same ips and other such routine security checks. They shud be doing these ‘cleanups’ more regularly.

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      • These are the current Imdb ratings for Aamir films (with 8+ ratings) and corresponding # of votes:

        3I – 8.4 (282K)
        TZP – 8.4 (130K)
        PK – 8.2 (128K)
        Dangal – 8.5 (105K)
        RDB – 8.2 (95K)
        Lagaan – 8.1 (89K)
        DCH – 8.2 (58K)
        AAA – 8.2 (43K)
        Sarfarosh – 8.2 (21K)
        JJWS – 8.2 (18K)
        SS – 8.0 (13K)

        Out of these, PK and SS surely wont make it to the knock-out stages. And one out of AAA/Sarfarosh is also going to be another early casualty.

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  124. Less than 12 hours left to cast your votes! The future of Dhobi Ghat, Hum Hain Rahi Pyar Ka, Earth, Akele Hum Akele Tum, Sarfarosh, Taare Zameen Par & Andaz Apna Apna is at stake!

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  125. IdeaUnique Says:

    @Jay, here are my votes:

    First Round Group Matches

    Qayamat Se Qayamat Tak
    Ghajini
    Rangeela
    3 Idiots
    Akele Hum Akele Tum
    Lagaan
    Raja Hindustani
    Dil Chahta Hai
    Dil Hai Ke Manta Nahin
    Dhoom 3
    Ghulam
    PK
    Hum Hain Rahi Pyar Ke
    Dangal
    Sarfarosh
    Taare Zameen Par

    2nd Round Group matches

    Qayamat Se Qayamat Tak
    Ghajini
    Raakh
    3 Idiots
    Lagaan
    Akele Hum Akele Tum
    Dil Chahta Hai
    Talaash
    Dil Hai Ke Manta Nahin
    Dhoom 3
    Jo Jeeta Wohi Sikander
    PK
    Fanaa
    Dangal
    Taare Zameen Par
    Sarfarosh

    3rd Round Group matches

    Ghajini
    Mann
    3 Idiots
    Rangeela
    Dil
    Lagaan
    Talaash
    Dil Chahta Hai
    Dil Hai Ke Manta Nahin
    Mangal Pandey
    PK
    Ghulam
    Dangal
    Earth
    Secret Superstar
    Sarfarosh

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    • Thanks ideaunique, finally got there! And I think you’ve inflicted pain on fans of Dhobi Ghat, AAA & HHRPK ( though I need to check!).

      And strategically too as I see what you have done here!

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      • IdeaUnique Says:

        sorry for delay Jay, in between running around for my SG/ML trip – I trade mkts also (SP mini and Indian indexes) – and what moves in last 2 days! US crashed vertically yday and India mkt is crashing since last 6 weeks…..anyway, coming back to this – DG is actually not an Aamir-movie (not a lead role) and has to be voted out 🙂 ha ha…..AAA maybe a cult classic but aamir has a far better looking CV without it……..HHRPK is a gem and it is difficult to see it go out (if that is the case)

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        • It’s a big crash in US. Lots of red everywhere. I guess Trump going nuts on Fed and the big storm in Florida has hit everyone hard.

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          • Yeah, too depressed to check my 401k 😦

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          • On a more serious note, but off-topic for this thread, Trump has routinely not been able to draw any distinction between “the economy” and “the stock market”, using the latter as a proxy for the former (I would say that shows his basic economic illiteracy, but then again it isn’t as if he is better informed on other subjects). So this stock market crash should get even his attention. With this guy and demonetization, we have imbeciles running the economies of the world’s two largest democracies! Kalyug hai Kalyug.

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          • He’s a business man so that’s probably why. But hey you idiots voted him in and the rest of us have to deal with it 😀

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          • Sadly 51% of us did not vote for him — but yes enough of us did that we “own” this cretin.

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  126. Shivaay, Tom D, AamirsFan have 3-4 hours to vote now….tick tock tick tock tick tock…

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  127. Ghajini
    Mann
    3 Idiots
    Rangeela
    Dil
    Lagaan
    Talaash
    Dil Chahta Hai
    Dil Hai Ke Manta Nahin
    Ishq
    Jo Jeeta Wohi Sikander
    Rang De Basanti
    Dangal
    Fanaa
    Andaz Apna Apna Vs Secret Superstar
    Sarfarosh Vs Taare Zameen Par

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  128. 1. Dangal 2. Lagaan 3. Sarfarosh/TZP. End of the story for me.

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  129. 3rd round :

    Qayamat Se Qayamat Tak
    Baazi
    3 Idiots
    Rangeela
    Dil
    Lagaan
    Talaash
    Dil Chahta Hai
    Dil Hai Ke Manta Nahin
    Mangal Pandey
    Jo Jeeta Wohi Sikander
    Rang De Basanti
    Dangal
    Earth
    Andaz Apna Apna
    Sarfarosh Vs Taare Zameen Par – BOTH

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  130. A lot of folks voting Ghajini over QSQT is pretty funny and ridiculous in a way. Anyhow, to each their own!

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    • Though I wouldn’t vote for Ghajini over QSQT I certainly don’t find this ridiculous either. If someone voted for Mela over QSQT that would qualify as such in my books. Or even Ishq for that matter.

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  131. BOI at it again! This time pitting up a C grade Bond in TZH against an all time classic like Dangal :

    https://boxofficeindia.com/report-details.php?articleid=4337

    Wonder when they’d bother talking about global footfalls in such scenarios.

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  132. IdeaUnique Says:

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  133. Voting closed. New thread to be opened soon.

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    • this is a really interesting thread because some of the choices are difficult. In the SRK one it was easy. The only thread as difficult would be a Salman one. Here it would be hard to choose anything! Ok, he does one sensible film every decade but otherwise..

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      • I think on a Salman thread we might just have to call it a contest between Bajrangi Bhaijan, Baaghi and Love and ask people to vote based on that!!! (On a serious note some of the best Salman moments are when he steals a film, and rescues the audience from even greater horrors: for instance, KKHH, or Saawariya.

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  134. Final 16 are;
    Qayamat Se Qayamat Tak
    Ghajini
    3 Idiots
    Rangeela
    Lagaan
    Akele Hum Akele Tum
    Dil Chahta Hai
    Talaash
    Dil Hai Ke Manta Nahin
    Mangal Pandey
    Rang De Basanti
    Jo Jeeta Wohi Sikander
    Dangal
    Earth
    Taare Zameen Par
    Sarfarosh

    Akele Hum Akele Tum knocked out Dhobi Ghat 32-31

    Earth knocked out Hum Hain Rahi Pyar Ka 33-32

    Taare Zameen Par 48
    Sarfarosh 46
    Andaz Apna Apna 42 (AAA knocked out – just!)

    Final groups will be in new thread with Round of 16 – very soon!!!

    Happy to have this thread closed and archived, if necessary!

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    • Must say, no actor who has debuted in the last thirty years has a better combo of top 10-15 films and roles than Aamir does, even if he isn’t necessarily the best actor. Despite the lack of consistent box office success, actually Abhishek interestingly would come closest; certainly he has a lot more than most, and if I pick a top 5 or 7 I’d probably go with his more than any other contemporary actor.

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      • This is minus films lost like AAA, PK, Dhobi Ghat, HHRPK…

        Ok the Round of 16 is set. I AM FURIOUS WITH MY WIFE!!!

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      • On Abhishek that’s a good point but in one sense this isn’t surprising. Whatever one might think of the individual films he has 3 with Ratnam, 1 with Mehra, 1 with Gowariker, 1 with Kashyap, 2 with Rohan Sippy (actually 3 but 2 are worthwhile), 3 with RGV, 1 with Balki, at least 1 with Dutta that’s worthwhile (Refugee), 1 with Rituparno Ghosh (Bengali), he also has a significant part in Revathy’s Phir Milenge. You work with these kinds of directors and you have more meaningful films most of the time even if you don’t like one film or the other. Then with his more commercial films BnB is better than most others in this sense, Dostana is pretty good too (specially the first half, the second one got Joharized), BB is one of Shetty’s better films. Some other decent stuff elsewhere that I’m not mentioning (and I have the decency not to mention KANK!).

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    • yeah you should set up a new thread. Too many comments here.

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  135. On Dutta don’t forget Umraojaan, where he had a good role.

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