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Non-holiday release… Non-festival period… Yet, #2Point0 takes a SUPER START… Keeping in mind the fact that it’s a dubbed film + advance bookings opened very late, the biz is STRONG… Thu ₹ 20.25 cr. India biz. Note: HINDI version.
Seems Hindi has disappointed. Master predicted 27 or 28, I went big at 35. The poor distribution will have dented a bit but overall this doesn’t seem to have the steam to beat Akshay’s top grosser. 20Cr is pretty much average, I won’t comment on other regions as don’t have the knowledge – default to Krish. Delays really hurt a film.
@Saket are you going to share your numbers?
It’s a separate thing that the reviews and response is better it seems. I’m going to continue my bad luck predictions and go big with Zero! I’ll get one right eventually! Zero day 1 will be 35Cr+.
I think 2 things affected it jay..one was people didnt turn out for the 2D screens..3D were having good occupancy and 2D were running only at 25 percent..secondly the Thursday release I think didnt help at the high end multiplex. The advances of course opened late at cities and dented it..the smaller towns and cities have actually done quite well..20 cr is underpar definitely as it looked like opening to 30cr a week back..wom seems good to decent though but it needs more than just a weekend number
For me single biggest factor is delay. If this arrived on time everything would be better off. Cost lower, expectations higher, a clean release and all that together would just add up to a better result. 3D doing better is a good thing but I wonder how much of that can be changed scheduling wise now. WOM might give it a decent weekend but now it’s needing a good second week too. Reviews suggest a one time watch and experience, so I’d be surprised if Hindi goes above 150Cr now. 4 day weekend is struggling for 100Cr already…film needed some big 20’s here but only Sunday mught give that big day of 30+.
Finger pointing wont wash away ur sins, nor will people stop showing you a mirror.
I am saying same things today as yesterday, but u need to get sober. Its Ok – Akki isnt going to get a big one. Learn to live with it, or are you too old to do that?
Whether 2point0 is a flop or a hit…my language will not change.
Move on in life buddy….these things (flop/hits) are transient. I am still watching you. Just keep the language appropriate. its so much fun discussing in a respectful environment.
My point was Aamir was the only actor who had a realistic chance to eclipse BB2 as he was the first to break 100,200,300 crore barriers in Hindi film industry. As he is mid 50s, TOH was the last chance for him to break BB2 and bow out on a high. As he usually takes 2 to 3 years to make a movie, by the time his next movie comes he will be around 56. As for as Salman, Shah Rukh, Akshay, Hrithk and younger stars are concerned, they are fighting for 2nd place behind Aamir. As the undisputed crowdpuller and maker of exceptionally varied films, Aamir was the only one who had a realistic chance to get past BB2. Now it is impossible in near future for anyone to touch BB2.
I do not think BB2 was ever within reach for anyone. It’s not just the opening but the way it got accepted and hence the way it trended. Those were outrageous numbers.
So any movie that claims to aim for BB2 numbers before its release will get disappointed.
He is not interested anymore. His next projects in the pipeline are Netflix web-series on Mahabharata in 7 parts (no BO accounting for this one!) and a possible Forest Gump remake which isnt BB material.
As I said, he miscalculated the impact of Firangi’s grey character against masala expectations and took responsibility of that. No one forced him to do ToH, was HIS decision and he can live with it (and so can his fans). Its silly guyz like Salman who cant deal with their wounds and publicly blame and humiliate their pawns like Remo or Kabir.
For example, Naveen was pumpd up for weeks to watch 2.0. He came back and hurled abuses at me without any provocation from my side at all … and finally when talked about the film it turned out that he had nothing much to say! Such misdirected anger comes from deep insecurity and frustration from within – so guyz like Salman needs to relax. Coz no one takes their shit so seriously …. its like tuteja’s gossip writing – does not matter.
Look up some shrinks man … all aamir fans were quite at peace after watching an underwhelming film given aamir’s standards. However, you are seriously damaged and unbalanced since yesterday, playing in an infinite loop.
After ToH, your cells got damaged. You have been repeatedly in vengeance. If things are not working as per your expectation you are going crazy.
I am seriously wondering about your mental health. Why dont you lean from other Aamir Khan fans…u are the odd one out. Bad one..actually trashy!
Aamir and Akshay both are great in their own way. Both of them take unusual risks, reinvent themselves. They occasionally star in or make bad movie choices. But both are successful without comparing how many crores their movies do. Aamir’s does more but then he does far less work and spends years making movies. Having this debate between you two is childish. Toh was badly made and 2.0 maybe didn’t work in North. I hope both movies recover cost for sake of producers. Naveen, just ignore and let it go.
Agree but you never know, box office is unpredictable. It will obviously be a shock if it isn’t Aamir, Salman or SRK. Ranbir himself is officially sitting on a higher grosser than Salman already. If Zero fails I already imagine upteen articles writing off these 3 but one bad film is not enough. Aamir will be back IMO. Salman too. SRK is sitting on a hit with Zero me thinks. But even that is no guarantee. Youtube hits mean nothing, day 1 determines a lot now.
Don’t be shocked if something like Lion King ends up being top grosser next year.
I do not think Khans can cross the BB2 number. I will count on good hollywood movie like Avengers finale or Lion King or similar. Among stars younger guns are doing more exciting projects.
Bahubali in wrong hands could have been a super flop, huge disaster. It was not the “bigness” of the movie that made BB successful. That YRF missed and jumped into “big” movie bandwagon. Bahubali was a big movie, mounted on great script and story telling. The latter part hindi cinema/yrf missed. They could have instead made 5 or 10 great small movies with greater return on investment. Greed is horrible thing.
I said a lot during BB2 times that I expect many big budgeted disasters post BB2. I certainly expected TOH to be safe as I placed a massive premium on Aamir Khan. But these Bollywood folk haven’t learnt for many years. Even 2.0 could have been safe if vfx was on time, no delays. Professionalism is a huge cost here. These 2 films TOH and 2.0 had the time to correct their scripts post BB2 and costs.
Seriously Bhansali and Hirani deserve some credit. The former continues to make good on big budgeted films, the latter is making good on scripts translating into audience liking his films.
The small films get an A* this year.
Biggest films are on track for very average performance saved by unexpected Padmaavat and Sanju success, unless Zero fires up and delivers huge.
filmmaking and makers are super humans. They need to be awarded bharat ratna. I just can’t begin to imagine the pressure, the stress and infinite amount of patience they need to have on top of being creative. I would give up!
Are you going to watch Kedarnath starring Sara? What do you think of her so far?
Worldwide 2000 Cr of Dangal & 1800 Cr of BB2 was always out of reach. So is the domestic 1200 Cr of BB2 in all formats. The only aim for 2.0 is to surpass the domestic gross collections of Dangal & BB1 in all formats, which were a little over 500 Cr, 2-3 years ago. 2.0 has almost double the ticket rates than those films so perhaps it should fancy its chances.
Not sure if such targets mean anything after Dangal and BB2’s worldwide run. The official ToH ww gross is 255 cr now (same as Sarkar’s). But 100m from china can take that total to a cool 1000 cr gross. However, it will still remain a flop in india.
As for 2.0, it needs 375 cr ‘share’ to avoid losses for distributors – impossible in current scenario. Even TN may not sustain from Monday ….
Not sure if the Hindi version would entail losses because as per Nahta and BOI its been commissioned. Numbers game is more about popularity of a film than trade economics anyways.
Day 1 is definitely a below par for 2point0 Hindi and overall for 2.0
With such a high cost, the mountain is looking steeper to climb now.
Its like Rohit Sharma is out and now all eyes on Kohli (in this case the weekend). Required run rate is 12.00
TN is superb considering sarkar opened on diwali and this is a working Thursday…it has dropped in hindi today…20 percent types but night can improve as it is end of week
Krish – If 2point0 opened to 4000 screens in hindi..then got 40% opening in morning shows and did upto 65 % by the end of the day, shouldn’t it have 25Cr+ nett?…the numbers are not adding somewhere. If 20.25 Cr nett is true, then either the occupancy was less or the screen counts.
Again this is my guess based on screen count and occupance % of previous movies released this year,
The occupancies were poor in 2D throughout the day in cities.only 3 D performed….out of 4000 we dont know the 3D and 2 D split..that can explain the calculation…as I said they need to ensure there are more 3D screenings over weekend than 2D..audiences are not coming out for the 2D ones in hindi
Bb2 didnt this much inn TN BO.on day 1….3D is there that explains the difference of 2 crs….the 3 Cs are all single screens..multiplexes are restricted to bigTN citirs..sarkar pretty much was running at 100 percent..or close to it..this has matched that on a working day..I dont think it could have done more in TN..other states is a different matter altogether…BB2 is not a comparison that’s a monster..
And for the nth time … resident trolls are encouraged to ‘read’ this (inspite of not having such a habit!) to understand my regards for ToH … the film and the final outcome (Aamir going forward with MB web-series instead of films) are both to my immense liking.
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‘Firangi In Engleeshthan’ – Cracking the TOH Code!
Some fans in this blog have talked about Amitabh in TOH and how its a tribute to his peak imagery that has been lost in time. A few Aamir fans have said Firangi is a ‘fun’ character and that Aamir had a ball doing this. There is no doubt that he did, not at least to those who has actually seen this film. But thats not all!
I have loved this character (seen it 2 times in theatres already and will eagerly wait for it to some on netflix/prime for more viewings). Its not that you can resist laughing WITH him and AT him, the ‘duplicity’ in this double-crossing ‘thug’ quite amusingly represents Aamir in Bollywood over last 20 years. For every Sarfarosh he has always backtracked with a Mela. There was MP following Lagaan, Fanaa after RDB, Ghajini after TZP, DG after 3I (!), D3 after Talaash and son and so forth. After he reached a crescendo with Dangal’s success all over, he selected to do TOH with YRF/Acharya gang! In short, he has been double-crossing his different set of audience all through these years and everyone had accepted it passively. Till TOH released …
There is an introductory scene of Firangi, after double crossing a maharaja, a bunch of thugs and then the brits (with a grandma dying story) he proudly goes off sitting on a donkey (that he proudly calls his master – a dethroned Nawab) wearing a ridiculous hat and a pair of red goggles. The scene is gleefully edited with Firangi’s donkey taking one step forward, then one step backward. Its a hilarious representation with an apt bgm … and is more allegorical than Amitabh’s physically impressive swashbuckling gig at 75.
And its not done in a way to demean anyone. Its much more self-deprecating humor than Mera Naam Joker or Kaagaz Ke Phool. At one point his reluctant side-kick tells him that either he is ‘mahaan’ or a ‘chutiya’. Firangi coolly retorts back claiming he is a ‘mahaan chutiya’. He literally kills the film by winking at his audience for 3 fun-filled hours. And during my second viewing I felt that showing a mirror to all his diverse audience was perhaps the primary reason behind such extreme backlash uniformly from all quarters.
If you revisit the film, once Khdabaksh dies (apparently) and passes the amulet to Firangi, he is just using his duplicity to help out in the cause. Its a devious Machiavellian way to get to the target. He just appears to be helping the brits. At least for me, thats the highlight of the film! [ And I will add this bit. Both of Aamir’s characters in SS and TOH are similar in the fact that both come across ‘non-hero’ like (even repulsive to some extent by traition) but actually helps out in the cause more than anyone else. So in that way SS and TOH form a ‘couple’. This maybe one focal reason why both films have been rejected in India. We perhaps cant consume such characters in a mass scale commercial entertainer. Or maybe all the message-oriented films have made it impossible for him to be acceptable in a non-straight role in India? ]
After his usual berayal, Firangi asked Khudabaksh to not sacrifice himself. In fact he explicitly states that he first betrayed him and then saved his life. So they are now quits as per him. He has no qualms or guilt regarding Khudabaksh sacrificing himself. But since Khudabaksh requests him to save Zafira, he obliges cause he perhaps felt responsible for putting her in danger with his betrayal. Once he saves her, he wants to leave the thugs and move on. But has a change of heart when the brits attack their hideout. Why shud he suddenly become a shahenshah like messiah as expected in a regular masala movie? It makes no sense.
However, once he has a change of heart he takes Zafira to Surraiya and together they plot to kill clyve during dussehra festivities. But when he finds out that Khudabaksh is alive he pretends to side with brits so that he can give them an advantage which he clearly explains later. When the time comes he saves Khudabaksh and the thugs finally defeat the brits. Once that job is done, he wants to move on because he has another dream to fulfill- Firangi in Engleeshthan! So no surprise that he is planning MB with Netflix next.
In some pop-philosophy thrown in TOH, he did what it took to be ‘alive’ given his circumstances. To which Khudabaksh says that everyone gets a chance to redeem himself … and Firangi responds well when the time comes. Remember Lagaan, RDB, DCH, Dangal, PK to name a few?
In another perspective, its a dual tribute to both masala and jack sparrow – which made in jarring to some extent, more alien in my books to a surprised audience.
Anyways, in TOH the emotional connect for revenge angle had to be with Fatima’s character. But it never happens to due to Acharya’s lacking and Fatima’s poor acting. [ Even SS suffered with similar lack of connection with the lead girl due to more aggressive and one-dimensional characterisation.] TOH is more hollywood at its core (specially Firangi’s characterization) than any regular masala troupe that the general indian audience is used to. I guess it was bound to face the backlash the way it did. Whats completely logical in a typical hollywood script can unsettle the indian audience due to their ‘set’ expectations. That way TOH is perhaps as big a disappointment as Taran is shouting for last few days. [ But SS did fine in China. Lets see what TOH does in Jan. ]
I felt cinematography is top-notch – They have created a true fairy-land with forts and jungles and all that is supposedly exotic to foreign eyes about India. The Rajasthan bits just seals it.
I criticised the vfx shown in trailer, but didnt mind it during theater watching (cant say that about BB2). Yfx team surely did some work here after the trailer backlash.
With the overall backlash and nil acceptance of TOH, this will hopefully be the end of his Firangi-ness in his project selection. Khudabaksh puts it aptly that he can sense a ‘restless’-ness in Firangi and hoped to make him truly free (Azaad!). I guess he may truly succeed in this. The MB decision is the right direction (no matter what results such a huge project will yield).
Bye bye Masala. Bye bye Firangi. And as Firangi would say – “Jai Shambhu !”
Postscript – On Mahabharata Web-series:
Looking at the Indian response to SS and TOH, i dont think its wise to invest a lot of money to make a MB films with Aamir as Krishna. Unless one dumbs it down … but then the essence of the story itself will vaporize. Krishna is a lot more Machiavellian character in MB than Firangi. I am quite intrigued to know how masala fans wud react to see a ‘desi masala film’ where Arjuna defeats Bhishma using Shikhandi as a shield (as advised by Krishna), Krishna emotionally brainwashing Arjuna (by citing Abhimanyu’s death) to unethically slaughter Karna (when the latter had requested a pause in battle) or Bheema defeating Duryodhana on final day by sheer cheating (again as advised by ‘God’ Krishna). No way he can play such a character in any other platform than a Netflix web series.
One can never emotionally connect to a character like Krishna (whether depicted in a serious avatar or a more notorious ‘natkhat’ avatar). You can perhaps connect with Pandavas or the Karna character emotionally in a masala setting (lowbrow or highbrow) with all their history and value for righteousness and other angles romped up properly by a director of Rajamouli’s caliber. Krishna’s actions are not so black or white and will never connect in a ‘traditional’ masala setting.
Well written. When the dust settles, some may appreciate firangi.
A big success would have made him take bigger risks, Now he will think before taking any decision.
At the end of the day paying audience is the judge, jury and justice. It doesn’t matter what individual viewers say. I am glad that Aamir didn’t produce this movie. At the most he lost of the profit sharing paycheck and it is ok for him. In that sense, it is ok to take risk and try different things. It is impossible to always hit the bullseye and jackpot. Occassional failures are good for human growth and keeping ego in check. He must have had fun two years and got his dream to work with Bachchan fulfilled. After success of Badhai Ho, YRF should focus on making smaller budget movies with better scripts and smaller but more talented actors. Lesser risk and return on investment is higher even if moderate success.
Doesn’t matter the character, TOH is a rank bad and dumb film written & directed by a film maker who neither has the nuances to appease masses and nor the wow factor to appease the metropolitan crowd. AK’s biggest mess up here was to do a film with Viktor for a second time after a substandard outing in Dhoom 3.
Well, some people who disliked D3 liked toh. I did not mind even D3. It was fun. A film’s rejection does not mean that even good acting should not be appreciated. A highly successful film maybe dumb like Golmal returns or Judwa2.
As for ego being crushed, it is a sadistic thing to say even for Race3. Every film rejected big or small breaks many people including workers. It is a circle. Of course such things give pleasure to some.
Agree that some shocks are required to make big stars introspect.
But it should not result like what happened to Gurudutt and Vinod Mehra.
As for small producers, today I read that Rajpal Yadav is going to jail for not returning 5 crores borrowed for making a film that flopped. Failure always has domino effect like some production houses being closed and the the workers employed losing their jobs. But these things do happen in other sectors too. One has to learn to live with all this.
ToH is hardly a ‘rank bad or dumb’ film as it has been largely made out to be. It belongs to the set of average films in Aamir’s repertoire like Talaash, Secret Superstar, Mangal Pandey – films which were only liked by a niche section of his audience. If you want to cuss Aamir for making dumb films then please point to Ghajini or D3 (but you wont have the balls to do that because masses had lapped them up as blockbusters).
On a bigger scale, if you want more successful yet dumb films, I will recommend stuff like Gadar and BB2 (not BB1 which was indeed far superior as a film than Katappa kyon Maara sequel).
A senior movie star is said to be especially upset about the failure of his recent film because— among other things—the movie had taken a serious toll on his health. Sources say the actor’s costumes were uncomfortable, and the film’s many physical sequences were hard to perform at his age. Looking back, he feels the discomfort endured and sacrifices made were in vain. Insiders also reveal that the actor was not particularly keen to do the movie in the first place, but was persuaded by the makers who were relentless in their requests for him to take the role. He is said to be disappointed in the makers for failing to spot the problems in the script and deliver a compelling film.
This is a blind? Even a blind man can see who it is. Bachchan has so much money and success and love from people. He should not worry about BO. People are still casting him at 70+.
Something that even deniro and pacinos don’t have. Yes, he should have said no based on the adverse health effect poor man had to go through in making of ToH.
The fact that in India except In Telugu speaking states, nobody knew about Prabhas, Rana, Anushka,Kattappa and Rajamouli made BB2 a true blue pan India Blickbuster . The movie going audience were so pumped up to watch it, the result was shattering of every record. When event films happened before like Mother India, Mughal-E-Azam, Sholay, Hum Apke Hai Kaun, Dilwale Dulhania Lejayenge and Lagaan, the actors and actresses were known throughout India. That makes BB2 achievement even more commendable. I think the next BB2 eclipser will not come from any established stars including 3 Khans but from completely unknown ones like BB2. Wish to see it sooner than later.
Believe you me, 80% of BB2’s blockbuster success needs to be attributed to the praise, appreciation and admiration BB1 received, both in theaters and television. The open ended climax was a masterstroke thereby raising curiosity level to fever pitch. BB2 pales in comparison to BB1 as a wholesome product in terms of screenplay, dialogues and VFx too. BB2’s climatic duel is cartoonish and video game like when compared to BB1’s epic climatic duel between the mahishmati kingdom and kalakeyas. The biggest, and perhaps the only reason for BB2’s monster success is BB1’s epic second half and the legendary climax.
BB2 has some wonderful conflicts, courtroom drama like scenes. I do agree overall 1st part edges it. But the key thing is for a 2nd part to meet or exceed expectations is never easy and here BB2 delivered massively.
It’s like Usain Bolt doing 100m and 200m back to back. The former is the headline event but the latter is still gold and following 100m only immortals do it. The hook obviously helps but you still have to execute the 2nd film.
Which is why I think Stree 2 will be massive as well. It could easily go north of 200 crores…even 300, in the likely event that it gets its comic and horror elements right, just like part 1.
My heart full thanks to the audience who have lapped up #2point0 and celebrated and made it a huge success, and to all the media who supported and respected the hard work of our team, and to my whole team who have given a piece of their life to 2.0. 🙏🙏🙏
Shankar himself is fully aware that an average opening does not mean ‘success’ for his 550 cr film. Yet he is already calling it a success on social media.
ABO has given their breakup..here share is distributor share not net..that’s 48cr on a 93 cr gross…but again the TN completely stumps me..how can it be a 16cr gross..we read it was 33 cr gross..even otherwise 16cr for a rajni movie doesnt make sense…am thoroughly confused about TN numbers..everything else is clear…
Most people have arrived in this range. I think looking at the economics here the film’s heading for flop even though it may make good theatrical business and reviews are decent enough. The costs became too big, poor management basically.
#2Point0 is practically collecting only from half of its capacity in multiplexes as audiences are not looking forward to have this movie experience in 2D screen.
Would be interesting to see how quick distribution team gets 3D prints before it would be all lost over the weekend. https://t.co/OSopMXQuK6
In TN, 2.0 has not crossed Sarkar. It’s around 20/22 Cr Gross and that is high-end PR number. There is another figure doing the rounds which is close to 14 Cr Nett. 2.0 simply did not have the occupancy of Sarkar, so crossing it is out of the question.
But, that is not shocking BO update with 2.0. It is the US opening where the premiere+Day 1 is less than 1 Million. Kabali did 2.7M on Day 1 a few years ago.
It’s a decent watch so should be stable over the weekend and not crash like TOH. Doubt it will have any legs after that, though. The makers have botched up with the release date.
The net for TN here is 20 so gross obviously is above 25cr…it still doesnt tally with ABO and BOI TN numbers…I wont be surprised if this hasnt beaten sarkar but I still think the gross will be close to 30cr..satyam and mayajaal were showing all.shows full and this was not a kaala kind of deal where audience chose not to turn up…not sure what’s the deal..all said and done the movie does look like tanking and a big one at that because TN alone anyways cannot save it
Sri50 doesn’t report Nett (if he does, he would mention it specifically). The gross here is 20/22 Cr, Nett in 14/16 Cr region. So, there is no confusion actually. Only the Hindi number is Nett which if adjusted is close to what others are reporting.
As far as tanking, don’t think it will do TOH tank at least until the weekend.
A senior police official in the cyber crime department said his attempts to take down Tamilrockers and their proxy servers in the past were mostly futile for many reasons.
“Tamilrockers is not run by a single individual or a single entity, it is a scattered group of people, who may be anonymous to each other, possibly working abroad. In multiple occasions during some blockbuster movie leaks in the past, we have found that their sites were often hosted by proxy servers based in Russia, Ukraine or countries like that which give immunity from legal actions,” the official said on the condition of anonymity.
The official said the leaks weren’t driven by personal vendetta against a particular producer.
“It is also supported and run by a section of online activists who believes in an ideology against knowledge industry, that drives these anonymous groups successful in many leaks in spite of a massive crackdown of many URLs,” the official said.
The highly awaited Rajinikanth movie, directed by Shankar and reported to have cost over Rs 500 crore to make, may have suffered significant losses due to piracy. The fear of piracy had prompted Lyca Productions – the film’s producers – to move a petition in the court with a list of 12,564 illegal websites, some of which were linked to Tamilrockers.
Even though Lyca Productions submitted a probable list of sites, a new URL of Tamilrockers with a link to ‘2.0’ appeared on Thursday and went viral on social media. Hundreds tweeted asking for a fresh link to the pirated version. Even though some URLs of some proxy sites disappeared after the initial leaks, more URLs appeared with minor changes in them. Some of the websites featured alternate spellings of Tamilrockers such as tamilrockerss.cl, tamilrockerss.website etc.
“In many cases, we found that leaked prints are mostly procured from theatres abroad, such as in Malaysia or Europe. They get recorded with camera phones by individual viewers, or from labs during post-production works,” the police official said.
V Rajendran, an expert in cyber law and the chairman of Chennai-based Digital Security Association, said a battle with such proxy sites may be a difficult task for India.
Audience should be educated in this matter, be principled enough, not to watch on these pirated sites. Watching a pirated print is akin to stealing. This idea should be hammered home through advertisements in theatres, on web, tv, every available, platform.
Dont think ABO and Boi will be both wrong abt TN numbers. The 35 cr gross number may be a hoax. This increasingly seems like a Ra.One deja vu, where it wont sustain beyond the weekend despite BS numbers thrown around.
ABO says only 48 cr ‘share’ from day one … 375 cr ‘share’ for recovery is a long way off. We may be looking at massive losses in a week’s time.
Agree 35cr might be a hoax but even abo and boi numbers are not tallying..one is saying 16cr net other is saying gross..think we will get real number by tomorrow when they will update it..boi does say it’s not final number..
From what I got to know from the comments on the other blog, it looks like neutral tamil audience are not happy with Rajni show. And they are unable to connect to Akshay too. VFX also not compensating for lack of proper screenplay and direction.
I’ve lucked out on 2.0. The Tamil version (including the 3D one) is playing very close to me. Normally this theater rarely shows Indian movies. The only problem now is: I’m not sure if the movie is worth checking out! Can’t do it for another 2-3 days anyway. Liked the first one a lot but the reviews are tricky for this one (though Tamil reviews are much more positive than the Hindi ones).
2.0 ALL INDIA First Day Territorial Breakdown
Friday 30 November 2018 11.30 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
2.0 has collected 64 crore nett apprx all over India which is a huge number but still just a little more than 50% of Bahubali – The Conclusion which is the highest first day collection in India of 123 crore nett apprx.
The surprise is the figures in North India and Central India as well as Bihar. These markets have done very well for a dubbed film. The South is good but the trade there probably expected higher numbers especially the home market of Tamil Nadu. Bihar is almost at the level of Thugs Of Hindostan with a Thursday release compared to the Diwali day of Thugs Of Hindostan. The single screens in the circuit ran to full or near full houses.
The all India territorial breakdown is as follows and the figures are for all languages in each circuit. The collections in Mumbai and Tamil Nadu are apprx and could go a little higher.
India Top Opening Day All Formats – 2.0 Second
Friday 30 November 2018 15.30 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
2.0 has collected around 64 crore nett which will give GROSS box office of around 80 crore. It is the biggest total ever after Bahubali – The Conclusion which is a phenomenal 150 crore plus.
It now means that the top two openers across India are both films from the South and three of the top five are from South with 2.0, Bahubali – The Conclusion and Kabali in the top five and the other two being Thugs Of Hindostan and Prem Ratan Dhan Payo both Hindi releases. Rajnikant is the only star to have two in the top five.
2018 has seen four entries with 2.0, Thugs of Hindostan, Sarkar (Tamil Film), and Sanju. Below are the top ten openers across India in all formats. All figures are GROSS.
1. Bahubali 2 – The Conclusion (2017) – 154.89 crore
It’s dithering and has no chance for breakeven. Like simplyRDB said the overseas numbers too are below mark. The hit it out of the park scenario is gone, now it’s about getting to a decent number at best.
My own Hindi estimate has this at no more than 115Cr in first week at best (8 day week). If it beats this number it’ll be good WOM in play and will go above 160Cr LT. It needs a huge weekend and if that were to happen that swing would have been reported today. Haven’t read or seen anything positive today suggesting positive WOM has come into play.
As reported earlier, this morning, the couple flew to Jodhpur (their wedding destination) along with their families and very close friends.
This morning a report in DNA revealed that the security at Umaid Bhavan in Jodhpur (Priyanka- Nick’s Wedding Venue) has been beefed up and the hotel staff members have been sent on leave. Only managerial level staff will continue to work for the next five days.
But, strict rules have been laid down for them too. They won’t be allowed to use their smartphones, instead, they will be given basic phones to communicate.
The pre-nuptial ceremonies will be starting from today and every possible measure is taken to make it the most coveted affair. The hotel staff that has been sent on leave from today, has been replaced by the employees of the event management and security firms hired by the hosts.
Strict rules have been laid down for the guests too. Along with the staff and the security, even guests attending the wedding festivities cannot carry their mobiles for any of the ceremonies.
Priyanka and Nick have signed a $2.5-million deal with an international magazine for the pictures’ rights and hence stringent measures are being taken to prevent any leakage of photographs or videos.
A close source has revealed to DNA that two American companies and one Indian firm have been taken on board to manage the security of Umaid Bhawan Palace.
The security guards deployed with the royal family too will be removed from the hotel and only the palace’s catering staff will remain the same. A set of security team has been specially hired to prevent any gate crashers.
Along with all these measures, jammers have been installed at the venues to block signals at the time of the ceremonies.
Now, a fresh news that’s making rounds, states that the guests attending the wedding have been made to sign a confidentiality contract.
A report in PinkVilla states that apart from beefing up the security, the guests at the wedding have been asked to sign the confidentiality clauses. Every guest invited for the wedding received a personal call and has been asked to sign a confidentiality clause.
With high-end security on board, total replacement of staff, no cell phones clause, confidentiality clause and powerful jammers; Nick and Priyanka have left no stone unturned to make their wedding the most coveted affair!
Thursday, November 29, 2018 | 4:34:00 PM IST (+05:30 GMT)
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I am so happy that instead of going to italy like deepika and anushka, priyanka is having it in India and Rajasthan! Nothing beats the royal indian palace as backdrop for your big fat indian wedding.
patakha has india-pakistan, israel-palestine and some other country as the “moral” of the story, which didn’t make a whole lot of sense to me. Vishal cannot make a film without some of his personal bias on politics coming in.
Patakha has an interesting premise , so will definitely watch it .Manto has Nawaz which is plus one , but Nandita Das is minus 100 so net is “-ve 99”, bada asamnjas hai .
I have not yet, but a Delhi born Tamilian dear friend who recently moved to Dallas calls me up and says – Yaar Mirzapur dekh kar tumhari yaad aa gai .
I wonder why ..LOL!!
I will add another one for Rocky. Lots of sex. 😉
I like it over GoW, ‘coz it is pure entertainment. But that is subjective. It is definitely better than Sacred Games which was pure hype and nothing else.
I love it when desi actors channel their inner Marlon Brando, Godfather type acting. Tripathi plays gangsta in most movies. So it is different, different version of Brando. And the whole cast is awesome. It is extremely predictable, extremely enjoyable masala, with tons of gory violence which is shown in very creative ways, sex, bad language and small town ki feel aati hai. Acting, scripting, editing is amazing but the best part is the underlying humor. There is a natgeo scene that made me laugh so hard. It is a fun ride, though I have only watched few episodes and not finished it yet. Each episode ends with “roundtable” with director and actors discussing the episode, which makes it even more interesting. And Ali Fazal is pure eye candy. Well played by all.
So people are trying to do downplay Babubali saying the will be remembered only for thier BO scucess and not as a polished product. Ha..Ha..Fool yourself. Just remember
1- Characters like Bahubali, Katappa, Bhalladev will be remember forever.
2- Though story is noy unique but the screenplay and how so many things pulled together with seemlessness will be gold standerd for future.
3- Bahubali taught us that only CGI is not enough to make a good film you still need a good story.
4- Ofcourse..The trending and final BO result will be there to remember.
I havent any memory of Gadar b/c that time i am not that mush into films but Babhubali is the only film (say in last quarter of century) that is truley an event film. I have seen people were posting thier photo with Bahubali-2 ticket in social media if it was a entry of some sort of elite club. So
BB2 was stunning as well as the first part. But it is remembered more for its BO success.
But for me some films like Mera Naam Joker, Sholay, Aaradhana were more impactful as stories. Music also is important for a fulfilling experience.
Each to his own.
I don’t watch horror. Haunting and Tummbad. The latter just finished. It was not that bad thriller-horror both, meaning not that scary. I removed audio when I got scared, twice or thrice. It is atmospheric (had to be shot over four monsoon seasons to capture the rain), very dark-literally as it is of pre-independance time era. Remember the famous dialogue of sholay “maa kehti hai beta so ja nahi toh gabbar aa jayega”. After watching Tumband, I remembered this sholay dialogue. The movie is about horror of greed. The film opened venice film festival, as critics choice. It is very rooted in Indian folk tales. Bit more on arty side but I liked it a lot. In past I have liked commercial masala thriller/horror like Kaun. Ek Haseena thi.
Sometime last week, the shrewd producer Karan, an opportunist both in his party circles as well as in terms of projects, stated how Baahubali was a slap in the face of all of us. I do not know the context of the statement, nor do I gave it enough thought at the time. But after watching 2.0, I do believe presenting both this film and the larger than life Bahubali movies for the Hindi audience has been the best thing he has ever done for cinema.
Enough digression already, and enough credit given to Johar already. 2.0 is a bloody good jolly time at the movies, where Shankar, the master “imaginator” and a genius of a man who gets things done and shown to the audience exactly the way he wants, conjures up a film that simply refuses to let you look away. Yes, it has “massy” written all over it, where he respects the time of the paying public and shows a big fat finger to the ones who wish to judge it for all the wrong reasons.
Yes, it is not to be viewed as a film. 2.0 is a roller coaster ride right from the word go, like one of those 7D adventures you pay for a 15 minute ride. This one just goes on and on, albeit in a great way! A case can be made for the outlandish climax that overstays its welcome, but once you let go of your movie watching inhibitions, even that works wonderfully well for the inner you that enjoys guilty pleasures as much as everyone else.
Forget what the academic critic in you thinks. Forget the bias surrounding the film, or any of its stars. Forget what the paid as well as unpaid reviewers are lamenting about the film, finding faults in the story or character development. Just grab your popcorn and watch it in 3D.
I came out with a huge grin on my face. Shankar has served the dish a tad delayed, but hot and one that you will devour with relish. Watch it only, and only in 3D!
And if you can whistle, all the better.
Thanks jayshah. I suggest everyone here to watch it
Its performance till date has been sort of bewildering. Coz according to my personal experience, it deserves a major jump in collections already, and there should be mandatory 3D viewing for this sort of cinema. Every single frame here is meant for such viewing. The purpose will be totally lost if u watch it in any other medium
Agreed. Baahubali is not only about breaking records. It struck a chord across the pan-Indian audience in a way no movie has been or will be able to do for many, many years. The 1100cr worth of collections speak for themselves.
It is an all-time classic. Maybe not for a few persons here and there. But when there is such massive appreciation across the whole country, the writing is on the wall.
#2point0 Budget is HUGE 550 cr. Film is doing good business but to get a HIT tag it should have created HAVOC at the BO, unfortunately it is not happening. Film day-1 Collection was good, Day-2 has a All Ind drop of appx 15%. Film is heading towards FLOP verdict. Sad but true.
Bachchan Sahab today-
the yardstick for success in the commerce of film is the 100 cr Club .. so until you can qualify for a product that comes in the category of a 100 cr Club, you are not IT .. or not there or not valued enough .. collect 100 cr in the business of the film and you are there ..
and for the past the yardstick was the number of weeks – 25, 50 100 weeks .. and the conclusion that weeks do not compare with 100 cr so you are not its member ..
In conclusion .. if you are not in 100 cr Club you are inferior commercially ..
But this is a yardstick constructed by you for today .. and because weeks do not feature in yardstick you are inferior ..
cool ..
BUT .. dear assessor ..
You cannot do away with the yardstick of the past .. and if you consider the 100 cr as the prime then you must consider the weeks as prime too .. for they reflected the yardstick of commerce .. and if you are going to use the 100 cr measure as the final .. then how many of the present do measure to 25, 50 100 weeks of commerce .. none that one can see even with a binocular .. !!
And may I just state that in the adjusted currency values of time .. the 25, 50 and 100 weeks monetarily in adjusted currency were all above 1000 cr !! .. which none of the present have even been near to ..
2.0 Box Office Day 2 Early Trends: The Hold Indicates A Massive Weekend!
2.0 starring Rajinikanth and Akshay Kumar, has taken an impressive start at the box office by collecting 20.25 crores.
By Koimoi.com Team -December 1, 2018
2.0 starring Rajinikanth and Akshay Kumar, has taken an impressive start at the box office by collecting 20.25 crores (Hindi dubbed version) on Thursday i.e. opening day. Going by the critics reviews and audience feedbacks, it seems that movie has met the expectations set due to its pre-release buzz.
As per the early trends, the movie has shown a considerable growth on day 2 by collecting in the range of 18-20 crores. The brand power of Rajinikanth, Akshay Kumar and Shankar, attracted the movie maniacs on the first day, but now it’s the real ‘content’ factor, which is taking the game further for this sci-fi entertainer.
17-18 cr is the likely number given the occupancy fall from yesterday. Hindi will do 110-120 cr total, but it will be difficult to reach its 155-160 cr target needed for distributor recovery. All versions are headed towards Flop verdict UNLESS they all can sustain from monday onward.
Ya was skimming through some data..looks like it recovered ground after evening shows yesterday..morning was looking like 15 cr. That programming issue of 60-40 3D to 2 D split is still hitting it hard in plexes
i want to repeat one point…..big stars can give certain initials…but for EPIC BO stuff….any movie will need a solid love-story as the soul….again i repeat….Titanic…MEA….BB/BB2….u name it – without a strong conflicting love-story at the center…..even mighty aamir or rajni will fail….
Bogus love stories are a bane on the viewer & its just in India that obsession with love stories equals bif box office results. Barring Titanic, none of the major Hollywood grossers right from the times of Godfather to Jurassic Park to Avatar to Dark Knight to MCU have a love story at its theme. Even Sholay & BB did not hv a love story as its central theme. Such a pointless statement of overt romanticism usually comes from Srk fans grown up on mindless garbage like DDLJ, KKHH, DTPH etc etc etc.
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George Bush, the 41st president of the United States and the father of the 43rd, who steered the nation through a tumultuous period in world affairs but was denied a second term after support for his presidency collapsed under the weight of an economic downturn and his seeming inattention to domestic affairs, died on Friday. He was 94.
His death, which was announced by his office, came less than eight months after that of his wife of 73 years, Barbara Bush.
Mr. Bush had a form of Parkinson’s disease that forced him to use a wheelchair or motorized scooter in recent years, and he had been in and out of hospitals during that time as his health declined. In April, a day after attending Mrs. Bush’s funeral, he was treated for an infection that had spread to his blood. In 2013, he was in dire enough shape with bronchitis that former President George W. Bush, his son, solicited ideas for a eulogy.
But he proved resilient each time. In 2013 he told well-wishers, through an aide, to “put the harps back in the closet.”
For BO success u need love story ? Sorry not true. Sholay.. Mother India..Border..Most of Amitabh’s monster hits. AAA, Don etc. Even Karan-Arjun, Ghayal, PK, Dangal, Sanju, Ek tha Tiger, Bajrangi-bhaijan.The list is endless.
Sholay had two love stories…..Border had that husband-wife connect stronger (Sandeshe aate he….) – PK, Sanju all had conflicting love-angles….when I say love stories, let me add – it can extend that love for / of parents (dangal)….the other names u mentioned are very few exceptions may be….but if u take BB/BB2 case study – the beautifully shot and directed love-angle is what remained with me and not those war-scenes….ditto for Titanic, MEA etc…..
Lol. Spoken like a true fangirl. The likes of Sholay & Dangal hv a relationship conflict as a side track & not the central theme. Anyhow, you’re most welcome to carry on with your mushy romanticism.
Sorry, not Dangal. I meant Sholay & PK. Dangal is very much a relationship sports drama albeit a mature relationship drama and not some candy floss junk that most Bollywood viewers have grown up to be fond up since the disgraceful 90’s of HAHK, DDLJ and RH.
2.0 (Hindi) Does Well On Day Two
Saturday 01 December 2012 12.00 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
2.0 (Hindi) had a good second day as it grossed around 18 crore nett on day two. There is a drop in collections but it is limited drop and with a dubbed film the fear as always a big second day drop. These is a normal trend for 2.0 an outright Hindi film and its very good for a dubbed Hindi film. The two day business is 38 crore nett which is good. .
The film is performing well in Delhi / UP, East Punjab, Bihar and Central India and most of these places are where dubbed South Indian films struggle especially the North. The collections are above averahe in places like Mumbai and West Bengal while it has mainly seen a release in Marathawada which for our markets comes in the South while elsewhere its a minimal Hindi release in South. Basically what we could call the Akshay Kumar markets for this film have done well and actually thats not just the case for the Hindi version but for the film as a whole. Even if we look at all India then the out performance for this is film is Delhi / UP, East Punjab, Rajasthan, CP Berar, CI and Bihar.
The first two two day collections of 2.0 (Hindi are as follows
Thursday – 20,00,00,000 apprx
Friday – 18,00,00,000 apprx
TOTAL – 38,00,00,000 apprx
The film needs to be stable again on Saturday and have a push on Sunday and that should see the film come out with a good weeeknd and a chance for a good run over the next 2-3 weeks. The figures for the all India version will be given later but the Hindi version of the film has done best and looks to be the one should also do best in the long run.
In Overseas the Hindi version has not performed at all due to the complete lack of awareness that this film is also in Hindi.
The non holiday Thursday release is also not a great idea for the Hindi markets but it has still put in a good base and now it remains to be seen where the film goes from here and a good hold on Friday especially in mass markets will be a good sign.
70 cr will come from hindi version by the end of this weekend, i m expecting 75-80 cr in first 4 days. But going by how akshay films trend, the end total may fold up around 125 cr range.
Except for the odd Gold, Akshay Kumar’s movies usually trend very well. They usually do 10 x opening day. Films like Airlift, Jolly LLB 2, Rustom, Toilet etc. did that.
However, 2.0 is not the typical Akshay Kumar kind of deal. It is more expensive but seems also more front loaded. Let’s see how it trends.
It has picked up and started quite well on Saturday morning from reports. So, the chance of a good extended week end is still very much there.
The way 2nd day held on with a minimal drop of 10%, is a good sign for this film. It shows public are willing to spend to watch the spectacle. I guess it will collect 90-100 in 4 day weekend and may double its lifetime to 180-200, unless it crashes from Minday. If it makes 200+ then it is commendable for a dubbed film.
Movies are earning much more in China than in any traditional OS market since Dangal.So BOI’s non sense has been proved wrong.Hitchki has done around 22M$ while no Indian movie has done so much in any traditional OS territory leave alone the fact no female oriented movie can even dream of this total in whole traditional overseas.Dangal,SS,Bajrangi and HM has done even more than Hitchki in China.No Akki movie has ever crossed even 8M$ in combined OS while Toilet has done around 14M$.Even the lowest grosser since then Sultan has done 5M$ which is good enough for any single large OS market.Also anyone can see China doesnt behave propotionately as traditional OS.Sultan did well enough in traditional but scenario was not like that in China and vice versa for HM and Hitchki.
On its first day, 2.0, starring Rajinikanth and Akshay Kumar, garnered a revenue of ₹80 crore across India.
This is the second highest for an Indian film after Baahubali 2: The Conclusion (2017), which made over ₹150 crore.
But at home in Chennai, the movie managed to collect only ₹2.42 crore. Overall, in Tamil Nadu, the movie collected ₹18 crore.
The Vijay-starrer Sarkar — which released during the first week of November 2018 — broke records by grossing over ₹30 crore on day one in Tamil Nadu.
In its Hindi version, 2.0 made over ₹20 crore.
He said, “The biggest challenge is that everyone wants to watch the film in the 3D version. If you go to tier 2 and tier 3 towns, not all theatres are equipped with 3D technology.”
Another trade source pointed out that Tamil Nadu was not a market for expensive films like 2.0.
‘Math does not work’
He further said, “The movie is mind-blowing, but in Tamil Nadu, with the government capping ticket prices, we can’t have an expensive movie.”
“The math does not work well,” he added.
Theatre owners across the State said that it’s housefull for them for the next four days.
In 2010, 2.0’s prequel Enthiran — which was produced by media baron Kalanithi Maran — garnered good response at the box office.
According to the 2011 annual report of Sun TV Network, the company released the movie simultaneously in three languages titled Enthiran in Tamil and Robot in Telugu and Hindi.
The company earned revenues of ₹179 crore, including ₹8 crore towards satellite rights.
The company had spent ₹132 crore on the production of the blockbuster.
Good news is that the high end multiplexes has opened really well on Saturday. Those had under performed a bit on working days. 3D shows are doing extraordinary business and chances are that all 3D shows in India will be booked for 2point0 till Dec 2018.
#2Point0 Opening on Day 3.. is FANTABULOUS ! After DECENT Numbers on Day 1 & Day 2… Film will show from today that how much it has potential to earn… Film opened around 55% Occupancy in Morning Shows on Day 3…. This will take film to ₹ 25-28 Cr… On day 3… pic.twitter.com/7fXLKaRF6X
Ragan has suggested a slightly different end to what 2.0 had and i agree with him.
Rangan is also contesting that a good masala movie is always between good and evil . Whereas in 2point0 it appears to be good Vs “good, but not for us” is also correct, which limits the possibilities in terms of box office.
But like Rangano i cannot deny that this is a brilliant twist by Shankar and makes it a classic. The thought lingers with you even after you come out of theatre and this I believe is the sign of success.
There is a lot of positivity that 2point0 is carrying. Whether one is liking the movie or not, whether one is a fan of Rajni/Akshay or not…the effort that has gone is showing on screen and the experience is mind blowing in 3D.
Anyone who has seen this is wanting the movie to succeed. Few even saying that such landmark movie is already a success and need not be m with boxeasured office.
Rangan – “A lot of people have told me exactly that. (It’s some version of “I know the film has many problems but it’s a hell of a ride and I loved it.”)”
The movie no doubt has good feedback..but cost might be too high for it to make up..you can see in BR blog and responses are very positive..but it bloody needs 375cr worldwide distributor share..that’s very hard..meanwhile it is no 1 in Australian BO as well as Malaysian BO today..crossed 1mn in UAE and had a better Friday than Thursday in USA..
Akshay Kumar in India Today interview was asked this question (before the release –
“How do you think the cost will be recovered..as even a superhit opening will not be enough and an all time blockbuster opening is needed?”
Akshay – “I spoke to the producers today and they are happy now. They have done the math with the distributors. So recovery will not be a problem.”
It’s a double whammy. Any project management team will tell you a delay is awful. Here even worse it hurts the anticipation (potential revenue), then costs get hammered. Economically this film has been doomed theatrically but personally I don’t benchmark success like this. If it trends well it’s done what it could do best given the cards dealt. The rest someone should be getting fired for the delays and poor distribution.
I think Shankar can’t be blamed for the delay promised by original VFX company. The original VFX company couldn’t complete it as it was complex work for them and then Shankar had to find another big company. The first company still took the money as they worked on the project for a year. Now he was pressed for time, Shankar had to pay 2nd time for VFX company plus additional as he needed it in shorter timeframe. They also spent lot of money in transferring all the data from previous company to new company to continue the work. These are all big US VFX companies and I think 100 crores or more was just wasted on this wrong decision which added to the cost and which is not seen on the big screen. Its bad luck for Shankar but there’s nothing he could have done to avoid this additional expense. If this movie was made around 300-350 crores of original budget, it would have recovered money somehow. But now over 500 crores is difficult unless you make an absolute masterpiece with tremendous repeat value like Avatar.
Solid jump in collections today , looks like WOM is kicking in . I’m pretty confident this will remain quite stable during the weekdays .. on course to become Akshay’s biggest grosser till date . Shankar had a much more tougher task at hand but he has succeeded where Victor failed miserably .
It needs more than one good week for that. But this movie might hang around more than a normal film due to 3D factor. Fingers crossed for Naveen aka Akshay.
Now, I am always prepared for the worst. During Naachgaana days i was younger, got excited with Chandni chowk to China and thought it would be best cross over film from India to China. (How naive of me)
The hype got me in. Then the movie opened in UAE on thursdays and WoM started trickling in. I couldn’t believe it then. I saw the movie and at that time i thought it was alright. Akki was good, Deepika was good…songs were hit..so why so much negativity?
Looking back now i realise the game industry was playing then. Foreign Studios were throwing money and industry was making trash with the easy money.
Now again i realise that makers are pumping in insane money because of Baahubali 2. I see Brahmastra, etc which makes me worry again because South India has now entered north india in a big way now. Audience is not ready for anything which would be only air. No CCTC types movies please. 🙂
2.0 (Hindi) is looking to emerge a HIT film as the film has been accepted in most of the Hindi markets. Its difficult to put a number on the third day number yet as some places are going up very strongly while other are stable.
But North India which is traditionally weakest with dubbed films is showing super strength on day three with Delhi / UP heading for 6 crore nett and East Punjab going to 2.50 crore nett. This is the third day and these numbers are excellent in these markets for a film of this sort and that is allowing for the presence of Akshay Kumar.
As these markets are so strong for a dubbed Rajnikant starrer it is only a matter of time when the rest of Hindi markets also play catch up. There is sure to be a healthy jump on day three and the Hindi version is set to be a HIT film at the very least.
Yeah if on higher scale it goes to 28 today and 235 tomorrow then it is bound to be stable over weekday..such a growth on 3rd and 4th day means weekday will be stable and even I’m double digits..I think though this might be closer to 25 today and 30 tomorrow which is not so bad considering the tepid start and gives it a shot for 150cr..150 cr is recovery point hit will be around 175cr
American singer Nick Jonas and Bollywood actress Priyanka Chopra are now officially man and wife. The power couple tied the knot during a Western wedding at Jodhpur’s Umaid Bhawan Palace, reports PEOPLE.
The nuptials come just three months after the pair was engaged in August in a traditional Indian roka ceremony. On Sunday, the two will exchange vows in a traditional Hindu wedding ceremony to honour Priyanka’s background. Designer Ralph Lauren took to Twitter to congratulate the couple on their wedding and said that he was honored to have dressed Priyanka and Nick for their D-Day.
The pre-wedding festivities for the couple, who has been on a celebration spree ever since they kicked off their respective bachelorettes, began on Friday with a Sangeet ceremony. Their friends and family turned out in fabulous style for the function held at the Umaid Bhawan palace.
All said and done, I believe 2018 has been one of the best recent years for the Hindi film industry. have seen plenty of successes as well as good cinema.
We’ve had stuff like Andhadhun, Tummbad, October, Badhai Ho, Manto, Stree, Raazi, Mulk, Sanju, Mukkabaaz, Manmarziyan, Parmanu, Bhavesh Joshi, Padmaavat, 2.0 (hindi version), Bioscopewala, Pataakha, Pari, Padman and Karwaan, and there is another month to go where a couple of films may throw a surprise.
The hit count is just going up. but if I had to take a name, I’d say it belongs to Ayushman, with two neat successes that also happen to be pretty good films.
I was low key John Abraham fan copied his hairstyle his long hair lol when I was 17 lol all the girls that I knew were going crazy For him when he came I’m happy for him he seems like a down to earth guy. When he came to that concert with Salman my cousin in the Bay Area was assign to be with him take him out, they even went clubbing, my cousin said he was really great guy didn’t even act like a star, my cousin even made him call our house to talk to my siblings as l they were fans lol.
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If a book is known by its cover, and a film by its trailer, let it be ANNOUNCED LOUDLY & CLEARLY that RohitShetty’s SIMMBA will be a BLOCKBUSTER. The trailer has it all — comedy, high-pitch drama, romance, song, dance, action, emotions. Subject will appeal to the public and how!
Not sure if Simmba will do 150 cr or 200 cr. But quite confident that its collections will be more than that of 2.0 hindi and zero. And no, I am far from a Ranveer fan.
There are just too many numbers out there for 2.0 box office. For first day itself i heard numbers ranging from 60 cr to 70 cr. The next day numbers are in 45-50 cr range (that is a collapse). Early numbers for day 3 all-india total seem to be less than day 2! This despite hindi having done 23-24 cr yesterday (an uptick from friday). IF true, then non-hindi versions have already collapsed and hindi may do so on monday.
No user reviews yet have given me the motivation to venture into theaters today. And the few hindi shows in the mall near me have weird timings. I dont mind watching telegu/tamil versions, but usually need a bit of help from subtitles (although Rajni films never need subtitles – the OTT expressions say everything!).
The top female stars are married and settling. Kareena already has a child. Deepika and Priyanka just married. Alia is in a relationship. There is nothing like old fashioned marriage for many. There are exceptions like Sushmita Sen, Kangana who show that marriage is not that important. Each to her own. Aishwarya led the way and she is a happy mother. Sushmita became a mother by adopting two girls. Kangana is happy with her sister’s child. And not to forget Anushka and her not so long ago marriage.
Always thought Avenger 2 was my most awaited movie of 2019 until I watched this! For every kid of the 80’s and early 90’s, The Lion King is an unforgettable fond memory and for some like me, it even overpowers the likes of Aladdin, Jungle Book and Tales Spin. Cannot wait for July 2019 and nor do I care for the Avengers anymore.
Saw 2.0 last night. The movie is a worthy sequel to the original Robot. This time around the story is not a wholesome package(romance, twists and songs) like last time but it’s actually true to the genre of good vs evil without songs and true blue action spectacle. I think Shankar had an idea to make a movie on Akshay’s birdman character from long and then used that idea and put it in the Robot world. So Akshay’s character is usual Shankar’s hero but in this movie he’s the negative hero. Still it is very good to watch a negative character with strong positive message. The story idea is very good. First half is usual killings but all the murders has extraordinary VFX sequences and Akshay’s intro is one of the best for any actor and he looks great! The second half is the roller coaster fight till the end. I would have like the movie to be extra 10 mins and flesh out the details better. I felt they compromised screenplay to not make it long as already there are no songs in the movie and audience will get bored. Right now no one will get bored but you feel underwhelmed at places which are regular Shankar scenes from earlier movies. Shankar doing story, screenplay, directions and design VFX sequences and choreograph the fights and everything is too much effort for single person and he needs another point of view somewhere if he’s going wrong. Still to pull this off single handedly is nothing short of miracle.
Performances are great – Akshay has really acted well for the given role and left an indelible mark in a Rajnikanth movie which is a huge deal whereas Rajnikanth has really enjoyed the movie and his real acting or enjoyment is done by Chitti 2.0 and 3.0 versions and not the Scientist or Chitti. Amy looked great for the robot Nila and suited perfectly. The movie will be remember for Shankar’s wild imagination and creative VFX ideas (even he VFX sequences and action choreography is conceived by Shankar). The whole sequences of fights and action is something not seen on Indian screen and at many places it appears one is watching a Hollywood action blockbuster but the content and style and soul is completely Indian.
The movie would have been a classic if some more effort was done on the screenplay. Danny’s son character is very stupid and he just lands and let go Akshay’s soul from the secure facility in like 2 seconds. Similarly I didn’t like the idea about overlong climax and make it funny in last few mins you get 3.0 and its entertaining to watch but I would have preferred more emotional ending with Akshay dying a heroic death. Instead he’s killed as normal villain and then Rajni gets his dying dialogues. I doubt if it was any other hero, Akshay would have got a heroic death but you can’t expect others overshadowing Rajnikanth in his own movie. Finally, promoting the only song with budget 20 crores and using it after the movie with the credits is really stupid decision.
Overall, these are minor issues in a huge successful effort. Just the VFX and whole action sequences with still strong good and strong evil characters are more than enough reasons to like the movie and turn it into a blockbuster. If the audience don’t turn this into a blockbuster, no other director will try such a huge movie again.
I want to add 1 point which book one has mentioned. All the important scenes by Akshay Kumar mouthing dialogues have been shot in Hindi as well
simultaneously when shooting in Tamil. That early helped immensely to connect Akshay’s character in Hindi. So even though its dubbed movie, Akshay’s role makes it bilingual movie and not purely dubbed. Lot of other characters like Adil Hussain, Sudhanshu Pandey etc also spoke Hindi lines. Rest of it is anyways action. So, I won’t treat this as dubbed like Baahubali but more of bilingual movie.
Even I noticed that. Adil’s dialogues were also spoken in hindi but not Rajnisir’s. I think all close up shots had dialogues (of people who know the language) in hindi. So it doesn’t feel like we are watching a dubbed movie. Both Tumbbad and 2.0 took many years of effort and thankfully it shows on the screen. Though in case of Tumbbad, the director was rookie.
Just watched 2.0. It is very much like marvel comic. Iron man-Bird man. I had no issues with anything including story. Akshay took lot of risk here as he is really old balding man before becoming birdman later on. I am sure Shankar approached other biggies in hindi belt before going to Akshay because this mega budget movie needed one big star from south and one big one from north to recover cost and be profitable. The theater had barely 15 people and was showing only 3D shows and even Badhai Ho on third week was more full than this, 1st saturday show of 2.0, which is sad because it is worth watching it. Just the opening scenes are entertaining and there is lot of male-female stuff between the robots and their banter is entertaining. Everyone stayed till the end credit song was over. Rajni has aged well and looks good. Akshay is benign villain and my sympathies were with the birdman! So it is not really good vs evil in classic sense and in my opinion.
2.0 (Hindi) Is Very Good On Saturday
Sunday 02 December 2018 00.30 IST
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2.0 (Hindi) has come into its own on Saturday with very good business on Saturday after two good days. The early estimates for the third day are 24-25 crore nett as the film looks at 35-40% jump in collections. The three day weekend is a solid 62-63 crore nett with Sunday still to come.
The film is a non holiday Thursday release and a south dubbed film and top it has lost around 10-12% business in its Hindi version due to a minimal Hindi release in the South which actually makes this 60 crore nett number much better than it actually looks.
More importantly the film has started to score across Hindi markets. Delhi / UP and East Punjab lead and it is a sure shot HIT in these two markets already and no dubbed South Indian dubbed film has ever worked her barring the Bahubali films. On Saturday Gujarat has picked up hugely and it should show another big jump on Sunday.
Sunday should also see West Bengal do a big number which will mean it has been accepted across all Hindi film circuits. A big all India number on Sunday will be confirmation of the families across Hindi markets taking to the film. The film is showing strong business in Karnataka also on Saturday though there is a minimal Hindi release in that market.
But the surprises don’t stop here. Enter the 3.0 version of Chitti. These tiny Thalaivar microbots are winning hearts all over. It is as though all of Rajinikanth’s swagger has been packaged into this small adorable red robot. Do you go ‘awww’ or whistle at its antics? Simple, you do both. This is one of Shankar’s best ideas in terms of marketability because this character is sure to be a hit with children. 3.0 saves the day in the film, by riding pigeons and taunting Birdman by gesturing that the microbots are going to kill the birds. You may argue that this is not in good taste but you can’t deny that it is fun.
Shankar has gone on record to say that he is willing to start a robot franchise and would love to direct a 2.0 sequel. He has set the stage with the introduction of 3.0. Whether the sequel takes off or not, it is certain that 3.0 is here to stay.
That is the twist. The good (Chitti and the bots) is not pure good and evil (birdman) is not pure evil. That part I didn’t expect and was different experience altogether and made it interesting. Is radiation from cell towers causing huge havoc on birds? Is that proven? I honestly didn’t know about it. They could have taken up a cause that is more well known like air pollution or ozone layer, global warming, tsunami. It seemed to me that they started writing the story backwards. Created birdman first and then tried to justify it with a reason. I could be wrong.
The theme is good and noble. They should have shown the bird winning. And the pigeons thing has raised some criticism.
It looks like environmentalists versus the establishment.
I am living in a place where I hear birds more than human beings.
Such a peaceful place. All sorts of birds sit on my windowsill and I am careful not to frighten them with sudden movements.
Posting Sanjana’s comment from Rangan-Multiverse for our resident trolls:
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“A very good re analysis by you. Our sympathies are with the birds. But everything will be destroyed for one reason or another in due course. Today it is birds and forests. Tomorrow it maybe directed against less fortunate human beings and weeding them out as advocated by one celebrated novelist and by one Hitler by using more brutal methods.
Aamir’s Fanaa worked though he played an unrepentent terrorist.
Toh was sabotaged to some extent by twitter trolls. Indian audience who regularly patronise bad films by superstars and smaller stars cannot suddenly wake up and find things terribly wrong with Toh.”
This is in response to Rangan’s re-analysis of ToH (something I have been saying ever since i saw the film and noticed Jay’s and Saket’s reaction) …
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The masala genre (I use the term “genre” loosely) is one of the most MORAL of genres, like the Western. The lines between Good and Bad are clearly drawn. When Thugs of Hindostan came out, this was the problem. I wrote: The only way this story would have worked is if we were constantly kept on edge about whether Firangi Mallah is a rogue or a nice guy — and with a superstar like Aamir Khan, it’s never in doubt that he will feel a twinge of conscience and rise against the British. But it’s more than that It’s more than just the fact that our big heroes almost never play morally complicated characters in big movies (as opposed to, say, an indie-ish film like 1947: Earth). It’s also that the masala universe cannot (and will not) accommodate such a character.
Rangan is a masala guy (a highbrow one of course), and his lament explains the varying levels of under-performance of ToH and 2.0 … Masala fans dont fancy ‘moral confusion’ in their lala-land.
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Is any of this “wrong”? No. It’s brilliant, actually. Shankar’s films – for me – work better when I think back on them than when I am actually watching them. He’s one of our best ideas men, someone who upends conventional morality by giving his “hero” a mechanical birth and his “villain” a mythical birth. (The latter is literally “birthed” by a bird.) But all this needs layered writing, where we see and sense all these facets as opposed to simply settling down for a “WWF movie”. With such amazing visuals, some of you may not mind doing that. A lot of people have told me exactly that. (It’s some version of “I know the film has many problems but it’s a hell of a ride and I loved it.”) But this is an if-only lament from someone who worships masala movies and their ethos. These brilliant subversions need writing that’s just as brilliant. Otherwise, we’re just watching a sound-and-light show, not that there’s anything wrong with that…
I witnessed Naveen completely unbalanced after watching 2.0, and it kind of explains the severe backlash of ToH (ignoring the contributions from trolls).
“Indian audience who regularly patronise bad films by superstars and smaller stars cannot suddenly wake up and find things terribly wrong with Toh.” Just perfect, Marcus!
That’s what I think all the time. They complain to Aamir himself about the content he regularly delivered more than any other – while a year earlier they voted out a content-driven film like SS over a brainless entertainer! Double morality at its finest!
We now see in non-Desi areas what the truth is. TOH is not Aamir’s best, without question, but EVERYONE at the cinema in Berlin enjoyed this movie! And now it happen also in Turkey.
And this Turksh fan has a lot to say really, through three tweets.
I would like to congratulate the whole team and the players for their efforts. Really hard work. I can feel the sadness of your heart. I hope we'il see you again soon. Loves from Turkey. #ThugsOfHindostan#aamirkhan
That’s all from me.😊 More out there. There was mention of an 8.5 or 8.6 rating from Turkish fans. Which is too much of course but to fans in India, this sort of praise is balm. TOH was trashed beyond limits, more than it deserved to. And I will be happy to see a correction. If such correction has to come from Turkey and China — and I hope it happens, some acceptance beyond tweets — Aamir fans like self can stop feeling bad about the engineered fiasco called Thugs of Hindostan. Not a great film, but not Mela level disaster. As Aamir rightly said, it entertained a minority. Despite its negative parts.
2.0’s Sunday collections are going to surprise those expecting a fall. The movie is now on path to be another HIT for Akshay Kumar.
12th consecutive HIT …a record now?
Apart from Chinese countries Turkey is another real Overseas territory for Aamir having passionate.With real OS I mean overseas country with non-NRI diaspora.Turkey seems to be having a good response.You can see Aamir’s Turkey visit and passion fans have for Aamir there.We wld know weekend on turkey by monday night.SS currently has the weekend,LT record there.
Turkey market size is not significant enough to await collections. But the response from non-NRI diaspora says a lot.
Btw, Bumblebee is likely to open on Jan 4 in China, where Transformers is a big brand. However, both ToH (28 dec) and Bumblebee (jan 4) dates are not confirmed yet.
Taiwan is happening Sanjana for movies just that movies r not earning anything substantial there.Hitchki and even Padman have already released in Taiwan.TEPK is releasing shortly even though u r right in TEPK’s choice.Just that Taiwan release doesnt make a news for non Aamir movies.
sare double standards hai. In diwali it is two hours of pataka in the night vs the year long industrial pollution, year long pollution of vehicles and on and on. But become animal rights lover for Jallikattu, become enviromentalist on diwali and holi. Its a joke! Priya should stick to acting, in movies and in her shaadi.
What a malicious video! Point out the very obvious hypocrisy here but do so without adding an unnecessary religious hatred angle to it. Priyanka had both a Hindu and Christian wedding and the malicious intent behind highlighting the Christian ceremony alone in this video is quite clear. Ironically, she was the only one who got married in a historic Indian setting while devoted nationalists like Virat chose to marry in an Italian chateau (not that there’s anything wrong with that).
Her intention behind doing the firecracker video was to promote a ‘sensitive environmentalist’ image not an anti-Hindu one. Celebrities all over the world are guilty of these double standards and promoting a holier-than-thou image. Whether it’s people like Leo DiCaprio asking people to conserve water at home and then flying private around the world or Megan Markle broadcasting to the media that she asked guests donate to charity on her wedding instead of giving her gifts to show her ‘non-materialistic social activist’ side while spending crores of rupees on her wedding dress alone. It has nothing to do with them hating Hindu festivals which is an absurd conclusion to come to. In many countries you need special police/ local authority permission to burst fireworks and for good reason.
Call Priyanka out on her blatant hypocrisy by all means. But it is hateful and incredibly narrow-minded to make an inter-racial/ religious relationship the subject of your ridicule simply because they dared to have a Christian ceremony as well as a Hindu one. It seems the Twitter bigots consider Hindu women their personal property and froth at the mouth any time a Hindu woman dares to fraternise with a Muslim/ Christian/ Parsi/ Jewish man, whether onscreen or in real life. Such blatant entitlement over woman is sickening and no different from the attitudes displayed in the most extreme Arab countries that prohibit the women from marrying non-Muslim men.
I’m no Priyanka or Nick Jonas fan and I too found the fireworks hypocritical but I also find the reactions to their wedding quite alarming.
Already there are talks about looses … and its just day 4.
#2point0 continues to struggle in B&C Class Centres. Distributors to ask for removal of 2D theatres or for a percentage basis run in 2nd week. Telugu Distributors staring at huge losses. pic.twitter.com/1hBvhvuO2J
tricky…becoz so much hype about the 3D version that 2D viewers will feel shortchanged….they shd have released it entirely 3D like Chota Chetan or Shiva Ka Insaaf etc….that wud have made things better….
Continuing my previous analogy between 2.0 opening and T20 cricket with India batting…After Rohit sharma got out early…Shikhar Dhawan and Kohli has steadied the innings with Shikhar now scoring Half century. Kohli is looking in ominous form and another century for him on the card?
India on track to another win. 😀
whats confusing. Two of them had OTT italian wedding. Deepveer is so much display of various designer outfits that it looks more like fashion show than a real wedding. Anuska’s was the most authentic and real. Priya’s is just inspired by her clicking biological clock the way Amrita singh wanted quick wedding to have their babies. Ranveer is poor choice for Deepa but then she dated all eligible men out there.
RS knows audience’ pulse and he accepted failure of Dilwaale saying that he was overwhelmed with the prospect of exploring SRK-Kajol chemistry and forgot his main strengths….i went to see Golmaal only for Tabu but was happy with the overall show….This man knows entertainment-starved nation’s minds….
According to Kadels and Jaiswals of twitter, 2.0 hindi has failed to touch Gold’s day one figure of 25 cr on Sat. And yesterday we heard that Sat was going to be 27 cr from Addatoday. They are now praying for 30 cr on Sunday so that hindi version MAY reach recovery, otherwise it will likely flop.
As for producers, they have gone mum on TN’s saturday number. ABO is talking about losses in Telegu belt.
375 cr ‘share’ needed for recovery … good luck to its supporters.
South versions did 40 cr on Thursday, 22 cr on friday and 24 cr on sat. Cant even satisfy core audience, now hoping for 2-3 weeks run in hindi version?
Akshay films dont trend in hindi belts except a rare airlift. Check the numbers before commenting.
Rustom started at 13cr and finished at 130c. Toilet started at 12cr and finished at 125-130cr. Jolly LLB 2 started at 11cr and finished at 110cr.
These films did around 10 times their opening day. This is not tremendous trending in the league of Baahubali 2. Far from that. But by today’s standards, it is solid trending.
Even Padman which did trend more moderately opened at 10cr and finished at around 82cr.
I think if Robot trends like the typical Akshay Kumar films as shown above, it will be a winner in the hindi belt. However, nothing is given. It seems a more front-loaded kind of deal and is a dubbed film which makes it more difficult. But the trend has been alright until here.
I guess since the film is performing decently in the hindl belt, now some will try to knock it though its collections down in the south. That’s like trying to move the goalpost, isn’t it?
It is like secret superstar doing much much better in China than in India. But ultimately India matters for obvious reasons. Same way tamil nadu matters for 2.0 for rajni’s stardom and Shankar’s reputation. Boi is ranting against tamilnadu without knowing the reasons.
It’s not about foreign BO. We are more concerned about Indian BO here. The blog is more about it. We follow Bollywood stars and Indian BO. So, what the film does in the Hindi belt matters. It’s not like Hum Tumhare Hai Sanam opening at at Number 4 in UK makes it more relevant while it under-performs in India.
You can be sure if the films flops, or if the film were collecting only
80-90cr total in hindi, Akshay Kumar would be getting a hiding here. The focus on this blog, the northern BO trade and media have always mostly been how much it does in the hindi belt and how much the hindi version does.
Rahul, you are bang on and bring sense to the overall understanding of 2.0 Hindi.
For all i know, 2.0 Hindi has been sold at 80 Cr..and it needs 160 Cr to break even and that it is going to do that now.
Lyca production made this movie with a vision that is rare. Dharma was very smart and got Hindi rights at realistic price.
My point is north south divide. If it works in the north, it benefits Akki. If it works well in tamilnadu, it will benefit rajni. If something works in China or america, it will benefit the concerned star whether it is aamir, akki or rajni. The respective fans will celebrate.
ALso if the movie had been a blockbuster else where than in Hindi…then Akshay would have got all the blame. So in a reverse scenario,, credit will go.
I however thing the movie will make money in 1 year for the makers. Did not they already earned 350 cr or so even before the release via selling of various rights.
As the movie is getting very positive wom, those prices will remain now. Had it not been for the public response, the same scenario would have cast the doom.
No doubt it was not a blockbuster opening like ToH or Baahubali2. If it had opened big in Hindi belt, it would not have triggered a debate. So i agree with you.
Nonetheless, 20 Cr + Opening for 2.0 Hindi on a non holiday Thursday, where night show benefits don’t come in) and where almost entire south was unavailable, will qualify for a good opening if you factor the 15-20% shortfall.
Sidhu is making news for all the wrong reasons.
In his Twitter profile he has written
‘Master of All Trades, jack of none, All-in-One; Proud Indian; Cabinet Minister, Punjab; 4-time MP; Cricketer; Commentator; Motivational Speaker & TV Personality.’
All the novice nowadays think of themselves as Master. LOLLLLLLLLL on them.
Look at the extreme optimistic tone of Krish even when 2.0 opening has not been up to the mark nor the trending suggests of any miracle keeping humongous 550 Crore budget in mind to that of TOH where he had already made up his mind where he remarked the former was being massively over-reported ( though he doesn’t see 10% as overreporting but TOH was an aberration as that starred Aamir!!).
Agree. Some here including boi started to think that 2.0 will be another big success like Baahubali 2. And now they are showing their anger against tamilnadu for not cooperating.
Some here are showing anger? I don’t know about BOI’s rant but
look at the thread and you’ll notice that most of the anger here comes from people praying that the film fails! Those hoping the film works seem happy. Naveen is in celebration mode already!
Definitely. Confused and annoyed as to why tamilnadu is not performing upto the mark. I have posted one Hindu article about how 2 tier and 3 tier dont have those big screens and how controlled ticket prices are also responsible for expensive films to recover the costs and me profit.
Rahul, have not so many prayed for the failure of toh? The same also prayed for the success of 2.0 to score more brownie points over aamir.
Action and reaction.
They are confused and annoyed as to why tamilnadu is not performing upto the mark. I have posted one Hindu article about how 2 tier and 3 tier dont have those big screens and how controlled ticket prices are also responsible for expensive films to recover the costs and making profit an uphill task.
And Rajni’s last films underperforming also casts some shadow.
The film’s message is also not clear.
Z, it is action and reaction. If others prayed for Toh failure, naturally aamir supporters will not pray for the success of any film following. Accept that fact. We are also waiting for Zero and praying. Haha!
” If others prayed for Toh failure…”
I don’t think people are that mean. Even diehard fans. I want all producers to get their money back and do not like to see films flop. Most of the time there is a collective audience radar, audience knows, it can smell the movie before its release. And when it doesn’t or thinks that movie is flop and do not go see it, there is WOM and they are sleeper hits. Making movies is risky business but a good product will always sell. A bad product will always tank.
I havent even once lost sight of the 750 cr gross figure anywhere in any message of mine..even in above one I said 450cr more to go..regarding TOH I had no doubt it will crash and I was first one to tell that by invoking besharam..i never even complained about toh extrapolation infact everywhere i said it is within reasonable limits….regarding boi reporting I think their overall number seems okay..we will know tomorrow when BW and ABO gives their number…
Your overoptimism towards one favourite is there for all to see!! Despite Telugu & Tamil not performing as they ought to be in movie’s first week keeping the massive budget, huge star-cast and an ace director, you keep showing us the bright side despite facts suggesting otherwise!! If a movie of the size of 2.0 could not open to bumper response in its first weekend, what chances are there that it could do in the coming weeks and that too 500 Crores?? Let me know how many movies have achieved this feat in the past? As far as i know none and you are making 500 Crores figure look like a ‘laddoo’ which can be achieved whenever you want!! You were so critical of TOH opening day number, yet you were the same guy who advocated for 10% differentiation in reported numbers was fair which takes TOH’s first day figure in 46-47 range, still a record opening!! But I have never seen you question, even for once, the ‘ so called accurate 44.97 crores’ figure of HNY ever, why??
You think us to be ‘gullible’ who would believe anything under the garb of box-office expertise but we know the ‘agenda’ but keep mum to let you ‘enjoy’ the fallacy but sometimes it becomes indispensable to uncover the truth lest it go beyond recognition.
Fans praying for the success of their favourites is nothing unusual but praying for others failures is not only absurd but senseless as well as other stars failures can’t compensate for your star’s failure!! It’s only when your favourite succeeds, it makes a difference not others failures. So let’s assume Shahrukh’s next bombs but could that reverse the backlash Aamir received for TOH as both are standalone movies and the audience wouldn’t start loving Aamir for delivering a turkey as Shahrukh has also one!! Everyone is judged on the basis of their talent and capability, so in case of Aamir, the audience has the highest bar both quality and box-office wise and when he fails to deliver on both count, he is bound to face brickbats. It’s the expectations people have which determine the success or failure as Virat scoring a mere 50 is deemed a failure for most of the people when the same 50 is celebrated by other players is just the difference how people look at them hence the difference in expectations. As a fan, I want Aamir to succeed based on his films and decisions rather than failures of his peers as that gives me nothing but negativity which is toxic for my well-being.
That’s quite an unfair comment..I have been the only one in this blog who have been vocal about following BOI so there is no question of following any other number for me..Whether HNY or JTHJ I was the only one advocating BOI number rather than producer number..jayshah can vouch for my stand if he remembers..I also keep saying that 10% manipulation in hindi box office is acceptable and have always said that and that was the reason I never had any issue with TOH..regarding the negative reporting of BOI I cannot help it if there was no uptick on Day 2..why will I say anything positive about any movie which is falling every single show..just to please people??..TOH was an epic reject from the first show and that was the only thing I reported and i am sorry i cannot sugar coat it..regarding 2.0 show me one post where I said it will be a success…show.me one…the only thing i have said is it has a positive feedback from day 1 and that I want it to succeed as it is a Tamil movie..but I was the one who posted in this blog that it needs 375 share for success and a 750 cr gross…you can be positive about trend of amovie without being positive about success of a movie…and yes I do still have doubts about the movies Tamil numbers..because a.movie doesn’t do 16cr gross when it does 2.75cr in Chennai city..the mathematics doesnt add up..so till BW reports the Chennai number I will wait and watch…for AP we have ABO and I never doubted those numbers..and for hindi we have BOI…
Here I am saying telugu version is flopping..you might want to go through my comments again and tell me one place where I have said movie is going to be a success..I would have talked about trend and positive feedback but visavis budget never ever said it will be success
The issue i have with you is with selective pick and choose whichever suits your agenda!! You also didn’t answer my question whether any movie ever collected this figure excluding Bahubali 2 that too after first weekend for you to display so much of optimism for 2.0 box-office prospects??
Having read the plot of Shankar’s 2.0 (I’ve decided I’m not watching this film), I’m reminded of the avenging spectre trope used in Horror cinema, across both Hollywood and Bollywood. The plot in such movies is usually quite simple: an honest person is wronged and killed. That person’s spirit rises from the ashes and seeks revenge, often stopping after the perpetrator is killed.
In Hindi cinema, films like Madhumati, Bees Saal Baad, Suryavanshi, Bhool Bhulaiya (Chandramukhi in the South), Om Shanti Om, Talaash, Darling, Bhoot and now Stree offer the same (or a slight variation) of this familiar plot device. In Hollywood, we have What Lies Beneath, Candyman, The Grudge & Ghost among other such films. It’s such a common trope that it even finds its way into popular literature.
The interesting part about this seemingly generic motif lies in its usage. Almost exclusively, in Hindi cinema, the avenging ghost happens to be female. It’s not a coincidence. Rather, it serves as an example of effective social commentary. Women in India being oppressed and marginalized are given superpowers (after death) to right their wrongs via this plot device. The other option (story-wise) is to let the oppressed women fight it out against the system (a patriarchal society) but that sometimes makes for a not-so engaging social drama (e.g. Shakti — The Power, starring Karisma Kapoor). Moreover, the first approach is usually more commercially viable as well.
In Stree, Bollywood’s recent runaway hit, the script writers take the former approach. In what is essentially a pro-feminist script, set in a small village where male privilege runs rampant, the all-powerful avenging spirit not only hunts for males but also takes them away naked, metaphorically stripping them of their masculinity. The horror film genre conventions stay in place, but this subtext offers delicious irony with respect to the battle of the sexes. The males in the village are, in fact, forced to wear sarees in order to escape punishment. In other Hindi films, the retribution is not so harsh, and certainly not all males are targeted, but the unscrupulous villain, always a man, is found running terrified. The social order is thus inverted.
Shankar’s 2.0 also has an avenging spectre in his story. But this time around, it’s the story of a man, an ornithologist, who takes revenge on mankind for destroying his favourite species — birds. Although one can’t deny that birds represent a marginalized section of life on Earth, I’m inclined to think this plot point is so far out there, it’s practically irrelevant. It’s a manufactured cause, a politically correct subtext that’s neither here nor there, in case it offends anyone. And offending people, even a small sub-section, for a big-budget extravaganza is like committing wilful suicide — especially in today’s politically charged climate. But this informs a separate discussion.
There is another point of commonality between Stree and 2.0 (based on the story I’ve read) where once the spirit becomes omnipotent, it imparts punishment indiscriminately. It doesn’t really care if someone is innocent or not, it’s out there to get everyone who remotely fits the bill. This reminds of the legend of Parshurama — the sixth avatar of Vishnu who wiped out the entire Kshatriya race no less than 23 times. I find this similarity, this greying of areas, quite interesting. Direct revenge is perhaps justified, at least in a cinematic universe, but how does one deal with repeated instances of killing? Should our sympathies still lie with the avenging spirit once it starts killing out of mere habit? I find this kind of moral conundrum to be a surprise package in genre films. In a good way, of course. I personally look forward to more such open-ended explorations in commercial cinema.
“Although one can’t deny that birds represent a marginalized section of life on Earth, I’m inclined to think this plot point is so far out there, it’s practically irrelevant. It’s a manufactured cause, a politically correct subtext that’s neither here nor there, in case it offends anyone. ”
On the contrary, the story for the birds is so compelling that noone will say it is manufactures, artificial cause. 🙂
“This reminds of the legend of Parshurama — the sixth avatar of Vishnu who wiped out the entire Kshatriya race no less than 23 times. I find this similarity, this greying of areas, quite interesting. Direct revenge is perhaps justified, at least in a cinematic universe, but how does one deal with repeated instances of killing? Should our sympathies still lie with the avenging spirit once it starts killing out of mere habit? I find this kind of moral conundrum to be a surprise package in genre films. In a good way, of course. I personally look forward to more such open-ended explorations in commercial cinema.”
This is a wonderful commentary. The dilemma was there with me as well. I am still unable to decide who is right or wrong in the whole movie. As a cell phone user…am i indirectly killing the birds (esp migratory birds)?
This question will remain with all and to some extent strengthens the antagonist role.
“I’m inclined to think this plot point is so far out there, it’s practically irrelevant.” Yes. Bang on. You are right. I feel/felt the same way. Wish it was a different cause that is more familiar and imminent danger to society. It felt that they took birdman-ironman concept first and then tried to come up with a cause later on to weave into the story.
Very pertinent video where Aamir stressed on the importance of script writer on Dangal’s success and in his career while receiving Master Deenanath Mangeshkar Puraskar:
He should take the full time role vacated by Anupam Kher, that of FTII chairman.
A very prestigious position and he can then groom students.
This would be great for the industry.
Aamir is available now and highly competent to teach. Others are busy.
However your choices are also fine if you are saying this in reference to ToH and subsequent lack of faith you might have had. You are for sure not an Aamir fan, so it can happen.
Nonetheless, Aamir remains my top choice for academics.
After reading this and other comment I realise why Marcus called you what he did though I wont do it. I sort of like you and these kind of comments are also quite funny.
One semi-successful movie doesn’t erase Aamir’s entire track record. Apart from movies he has SMJ and Paani foundation. But Akki would suit the role of Anupam kher just fine Naveen 😉 🙂
Both of you are taking my suggestion with a pinch of salt. You all need to be a spy.
Akshay is not academic material at all. He is not a thinker like Aamir. I think you guys are assuming that my suggestion is sarcastic. On the contrary it is not. I value Aamir very highly.
FTII chairman is a very prestigious position in the industry. They drive the future of film making in India. OK, if not a permanent role then definitely some form of association to understand the creative direction. Other person could be Hirani. These are the top 2 names i have.
Who told you that Aamir is ‘available’ when there have been a lot of recent posts about him going to USA for research on Mahabharata!! Just one flop and unsolicited advices & suggestions!!
2.0 Hindi so far.
In Cr daywise : 20+18+25+30+ Cr = 93-95 Cr weekend (4 days) nett
This is a huge turn around from Friday. Then it was looking a certain flop. Scenario has completely changed now. Trending is at Vera level, usually associated with superhit films. (8-10 times opening day).
Weekday prediction-
Monday – 12 Cr ( i will not be surprised if its more, but am taking worst case scenario)
Tuesday – 11 Cr
Wednesday – 10 Cr
Thursday – 10 Cr
Week 1 (extended) = Rs 140 Cr nett
Akshay Kumar has another sure shot hit. 12th in a row now.
This year with Padman, Gold and 2.0…he has given the more diverse movies. Extraordinary talent is now getting recognition.
BOI has blasted Tamil film industry for unusual negativity and is totally justified in doing so –
The all India business of 2.0 got a boost on Saturday with collections of 56-57 crore nett. The jump was driven by the Hindi circuits especially North and Mumbai but the Southern markets are sustaining. This film has a lot of negativity in the South and it mainly seems to be coming from the Tamil film industry or people linked to that industry when in truth it is THE film of that industry and should be the pride of that industry.
The negativity was pretty clear on Thursday evening when these 12 and 13 crorre GROSS numbers from Tamil Nadu started to do the rounds. But at the end of the day you may have some takers for this sort of rubbish but in the wider picture its just some sort of agenda or limited knowledge of box office numbers. In short 2.0 is to the Tamil film industry what Sholay is to the Hindi film industry and Bahubali is to the Telugu film industry. It may not reverberate at the levels of those films across India but that does not take away the fact that it stands apart from what has come and gone in the Tamil industry so far by a distance. So negativity for the best ever in your industry is just crazy.
The other reason for the agenda could be the hero Rajnikant but the fact there is this guy has dominated that industry for 38 years now and it can be pretty much said it will never find such a megastar again. In fact maybe the industry can attempt to make a film at the level of 2.0 again in time but the stardom of Rajnikant in Tamil cinema will not be repeated.
When there is negativity about a film like Thugs of Hindostan then it is understandable as its public rejection but with 2.0 there is no such thing and the film has been liked by the vast majority be it Amritsar or Ambur.
The film will go past 200 crore nett on Sunday and will basically become the highest grossing film (not adjusted) in the history of Tamil cinema in four days in India and worldwide. The worldwide figures should comfortably cross 300 crore by the end of business on Sunday
Myselfaamir – You are the China BO champion more than anyone else here.
Padman is releasing on 14th. This could be the biggest bollywood movie there in Dec. I would rate its chances to be better than ToH just on the basis of movie quality. (There is no comparison actually).
So please share the news once the China release for Padman gets closer.
I am not aware of taboos in China. Thanks for informing me.
I will still stick to my opinion and belief from whatever i have got to know about menstruation and issues with it for poor women. This is a global problem and no country is untouched.
And Padman goes beyond social issues. It celebrates entrepreneurship / social business and knowing few chinese business man (i would rate them highly and extremely aggressive when it comes to doing business), it is going to connect a lot more than it did in India.
The film should have been released only in hindi or in tamil only abroad. The theatres are divided between 3 languages and making choices difficult for the audience. One telugu family I know wants to watch it only the telugu version but the theatre and timings are not suiting while hindi version is more accessible. If there is only hindi version, they would have gone to that theatre without thinking.
True..same with few i know.
However there are not many who watch other language movies. If Akshay had not been in 2.0…not sure if it would have got even 1000 screens in North India. Now we know that Hindi business is leading the show overall.
Case in South India for hindi film is even worse. A Hindi movie in south India is less popular than an english or a chinese film.
I go with my previous assessment of 4 day weekend of 90-100 and lifetime of 180-200 for this. If Monday can hold well then it may go past 200. The growth of 30-35% on consecutive days of weekend is going to augur well for this movie. The difference between TOH and 2.0 is TOH was on a free fall from 2nd day. The growth indicates that public acceptance, especially family audience, is very much there.
I guess for the first time Akshay’s movie is faring better than Salman and Amir films in a year. If Zero underperforms, then in a calendar year Akshay will have outclassed all 3 Khans.That’s a quite achievement.
Sanjana – “Z, it is action and reaction. If others prayed for Toh failure, naturally aamir supporters will not pray for the success of any film following. Accept that fact. We are also waiting for Zero and praying. Haha!”
I really appreciate this honesty. But the path chosen by you (i still do not know why you talk in ‘we’ as if all Aamir fans are same), is a long laborious one. Till the next Aamir’s release, you have to keep on doing and trust me it will not only be painful, but also you will be the one who will be wrong most of the time. And that next Aamir’s release is not going to come soon. In fact it would be more delayed now.
Not sure if you are watching Big Boss, but there is a character called Deepika. She is foolishly supporting the arrogant Sreshanth calling him Bhaiya etc. They share common interest for sure, but the support looks awful.
BELIEVE IT – #2Point0 is FLIRTING to set highest single day collection record at #Bihar. Today's collection at Bihar are better than single day collection of #TZH (Day 3), and #Sanju (Day 3). @akshaykumar has catered to this section of audience AFTER AGES!
Incredible jump in the collections of #2Point0 (Hindi) today! The audience has been bowled over by the entertainment quotient & the awesome quality of 3D! The mantra is – GIVE PEOPLE THEIR MONEY’S WORTH & THEY WILL GIVE YOU THEIR MONEY! @rajinikanth@akshaykumar@shankarshanmugh
I don’t think people are that mean. Even diehard fans. I want all producers to get their money back and do not like to see films flop. Most of the time there is a collective audience radar, audience knows, it can smell the movie before its release. And when it doesn’t or thinks that movie is flop and do not go see it, there is WOM and they are sleeper hits. Making movies is risky business but a good product will always sell. A bad product will always tank.
I am not that naive to believe that others are so good after going through all those threads.
And bad films work most of the time and good films tank most of the time. Just like bad people thrive while good people suffer most of the time.
102 Not Out was below the mark in China has it grossed $3.16 million in China over three days. Hichki a couple of months back had grossed around $5.1 million though 102 Not Out had a better Friday. The trend was not too strong for 102 Not Out as collections on Sunday were 30% down from Saturday.
The $3.16 million number is INR 22 crore which looks big considering that 102 Not Out is not a big film but it got a good release in China and the expectations on the release were of better numbers. Its unlikely the film can sustain in China. Pad Man which has a female subject which tend to fare better in China will release on the 14th December and hopefully will see a better turnout.
The numbers are all over the place for 2.0. And here is what Deadline is saying regarding the sad state of its BO reporting … What a mess!
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Before turning back for the moment to FB2, there’s an Indian film that looks to be doing bang-up business internationally. Numbers out of India are routinely difficult to assess, and particularly when a film does not hail from Bollywood. Based on local information, Tamil sci-fi actioner 2.0 is looking at huge weekend globally (putting it in the company of the recent Baahubali movies). This will be updated as soon as we have more clarity.
Negativity is also part of life. It can be called by other names like competitiveness. When one receives so much negativity, one also wants to give it back to some extent. It is toxic but it also takes away the sting and makes one to move on in life. Sort of therapy.
Otherwise those action dramas will not be so successful. The whistles heard when the hero is bashing the villain again and again.
When I said ‘we’, I also thought that I should not be talking on behalf of others but that ‘we’ indicate some of us in my circle outside this blog.
When Federer beats the other guy, do we feel the pain of the one who was defeated? Not much. Or not at all. That is life.
Have we not seen how one positive person becomes negative because of circumstances? To be positive is good. But to be negative is not that bad sometimes.
As long as negativity is a part of life, i agree to your point of view.
Just don’t make it your entire life by associating with arrogant abusers. Then it would suck.You will get irritated but just for the sake of supporting you would keep his side.
Siding with arrogant abusers will also make matter worse. You may win one brownie point but the guilt will soak out the real happiness. Rather avoid such people.
You are referring to Marcus. I am not supporting him for being abusive
but for supporting aamir wholeheartedly while also being extremely critical of him.
They are two different things. Cant throw away the baby with the bathwater.
I am always a bit cynical. Whether it is about aamir’s invincibility or taking something for granted. But the orchestrated campaign by social media, by vengeful critics and by vested interests is something else. Extraordinary cirucumstances makes one become extraordinary in reactions too.
Some of the campaign might have been directed at YRF itself for the way it treated media(with arrogance) and for the high ticket prices which they foolishly publicised as if they were delivering some magnum opus.
I never abuse other stars or fans. Am just supportive of a favourite( Aamir), even while I am aware of his shortcomings. Have been critical of him , but elsewhere, not here too much.
Self and some other fans do find the TOH crash to be quite intriguing. It was an ok film that could have become a semi hit. It did not deserve to be totally shamed the way it happened. Critics, many of them,completely compromised and biased,started the campaign called shaming of TOH. Will not forgive Taran Adarsh the trade guide critic who went on and on with his talk against a TOH, right up till third week. Did not care to read gossip columnist critic Masand or that idiot Raja Sen. Did read a decent review from Bhawana Somaaya who gave TOH three stars. And a few foreign reviewers too, fair enough.
When I watched the film, first day, evening, almost the entire hall seemed to be laughing along — though a few people did fiddle with phones. This fiddling with phone happens with the best of films though. When I was watching Manto in September, one guy had an entire conversation on his mobile. What the…😡 Any film, good or bad, deserves viewer’s attention.
After the critical attack, rival fans, assorted politically motivated attackers, all had a go at TOH, leading to domino effect crash. I read of people cancelling tickets, due to bad reports on social media. Don’t you have enough sensibility, awareness through trailer and other material, to have a sense of the film? Of course, the campaign against TOH started right after the release of promos, over a month earlier. The constant reference to Pirates of C…. No, TOH was never an Indian Pirates, save for the look of Firangi, a nod to Jack Sparrow, perhaps, a bit.
TOH debacle was a perfect lesson in how to kill a film.
Thankfully, places without India effect — they are giving the film it’s due.
One example of what you are saying is that blog members like Satyam and Rooney cancelled their tickets after Jay started bashing the film. His expectations had not been met, obviously. But Tony’s review (the first one in this blog) was middling. So Aamir fans like Jay had also pitched in their contributions to the fiasco.
Agree with all the rest that you have pointed out.
I will not go by what others say when I want to watch a film.
Infact it makes me much more determined when someone asks me not to watch a certain film when I liked that film because of trailers and other factors like actors starring in them.
I was not impressed by the premise of Manmarziyaan inspite of people going gaga over it on this blog. Maybe I will watch it on tv and change my opinion.
Sort of liked Raees and liked some songs of JHMS.
I am fully aware where he came from – big masala expectations and was a victim of it. What he perhaps did not realize is that he was adding additional fuel to fire. Happens.
I didn’t realise my critisism would lead to cancellations. If anyone wants a ticket for TOH I’ll buy it for them. Satyam for sure wouldn’t simply go on my word alone. He read Rangan’s review too and then decided to not watch it.
I don’t take my own opinion this seriously, others definitely shouldn’t!
Let it go if the movie was well made it would’ve done well, you Aamir fans need to come to a fact he made a bad movie after a decade that’s fine none of the actors can say that, but you fans need to stop putting the blame on social media
I do plan to watch Zero this Christmas. Am never against any actor. Zero looks interesting enough. A family member is down from the US — and what better movie outing than Zero.:) Though our last SRK film together, in an Albany, NY theatre — wasn’t the greatest.😄
Jhms had some good songs and some decent scenes but movie got boring in the second half I was about to snooze myself. Srk did apologize recently for making that movie I think
i am going to avoid Zero at all cost – SRK does not get the nuances right and in every frame is trying to do a DDLJ-Rahul act – OTT show! no chance that i will go for this self-aggrandising vanity affari….a dwarf dancing to perfect bollywood coreography et all…is too far-fetched for me….i suspect anand rai has fallen for the bygone-srk just like rohit shetty fell for it….
@LS – Here is a comment from Rangan’s blog that i believe is the best constructive criticism I have read about ToH’s scripting issues. Agree with this on all counts and really hoping that the chinese cut is more on these lines …
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“TOH suffers from unimaginative setup. The movie should have started off showing the Firangi character, his antics and then through him we should have been introduced to the Thugs without any backstory. The reason for their actions and their emotional flashback should have been shared with the viewers only in the second half, and then moving into a change of heart from Firangi and then heading towards the revenge seeking climax. It would have worked significantly better. Imagine a MERSAL or a VADA CHENNAI if the flashbacks portions were narrated right before the titles, what follows would have been boring screenplay offering no excitement whatsoever. What TOH did was something from the 80s and hence paid the price for it.”
I believe you didn’t read my review of TOH. I said that the movie should have called ‘Adventures of Firangi’ and more about his character then showed his adventures and this story as one of his adventure and foundation would have been laid for sequel.
@ Marcus: I did read you review of TOH, enjoyed the write up. Just did not comment on it. Agree, the film should have been called something else — like,Firangi Mallah or Firangi Kahaani, maybe. And perhaps the film title Thugs of Hindostan could have been inspired by the late 18 th century book, Confessions of a Thug — and this is where wrong expectectations came in when you use the word thug, the image conjured up is bloodthirsty highway robbers and killers. Here, you have a film mostly at sea — in every sense of the word😄
Good points! The sort of attacking left, right and center of the film was uncalled for.
it had a “behti ganga mei haath dhona” effect, where everyone simply started trolling the film for no good reason. It had its flaws but was never “unwatchable”. but what to do? we live in an era of memes
A complete fiasco on the part of Indian box office sites. It’s 2018 and no one has a proper Box Office tracking system. 2.0 has totally exposed the system’s flaw.
One must also take into account the unethical BO reporting and multiple exhibitors (for their own reasons) not sharing the complete data
Its a joke dude … a sad one. Taran, Boi, & whoever is quoting ‘whole’ numbers of their own liking. No decimals or any ugly numbers – its either 20 cr or 25 cr round off numbers based on their vested interest. Too neat to be true.
It’s a joke but it’s obvious people in the industry want it this way. It gives a certain get out of jail free card to them to use whenever they want. I doubt the general public gives a crap too.
This is like Narcos where the cartel have paid off everyone in the system and they are all happy to play along. A few fools like me come along thinking they can help but it’s pointless.
We are all happy with wrong information. The day everyone fights for no tolerance I’ll wake up. But when reasonable folk accept this useless box office system I might as well just stick to watching films instead of giving myself weekly headaches over collections.
I’ll follow China and US. India can keep blasting out it’s corrupted numbers…
Both Baahubali films had recovered 70% of their distribution rights in first 3 days despite being such big films. Their economics were quite reasonable given their market potential and meeting expectations.
On the other hand, 2.0 has just recovered 30% of its distribution rights in first 3 days. Says everything about its botched up economics at play.
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One really cant expect 2.0 to sustain in A-center plexes in the year when AIW did 227 cr, JW did 100 cr and MI6 did 85 cr. Demands from visual spectacles are now too high for Shankar to appease this segment of audience.
@Shahjaan. Albany has a fair sprinkling of Indians, but just enough. Employers like GE Research, Global l Foundries, plus State Univ of NY headquarters, nanaociences institute, Rensselaer Polytechnic ( full fledged technology college, not polytechnic in Indian diploma sense)…give space for Indian presence.
2.0 (Hindi) Has Excellent Extended Weekend
Monday 03 December 2018 11.30 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
2.0 (Hindi) scored a huge Sunday with collections going to around 33 crore nett apprx. The four day weekend of the film is 95 crore nett apprx which is huge number for this film. The families have really come out over Saturday and Sunday..
The film did start slow in some areas on Friday but by Sunday its doing very well across the board. The film is missing business in the South due to the Tamil and Telugu version and if it was a normal Hindi film then it would be a 105 crore nett extended weekend. The ticket prices have also not been hiked for this film like it was for Race 3, Sanju and Thugs Of Hindostan.
The first three day collections of 2.0 (Hindi) are as follows
Thursday – 20,00,00,000 apprx
Friday – 18,00,00,000 apprx
Saturday – 24,00,00,000 apprx
Sunday – 33,25,00,000 apprx
TOTAL – 95,25,00,000 apprx
The main worry for a dubbed film is post the first day especially if the dubbed film has a healthy first day number but this film has gone through with flying colors. There is acceptance for the film across all Hindi circuits and now its about the level it holds on the weekdays. A normal Monday hold confirm this film as a HIT. .
The film has also done well in Tamil and Telugu in the South but due to the growth in the Hindi versions it is actually the Hindi version which has performed best..
Note – The all India all format and territory collections will be updated later on.
“The ticket prices have also not been hiked for this film like it was for Race 3, Sanju and Thugs Of Hindostan.”
This isnt true. I watched it by paying Rs. 550 for one ticket, mroe than what I paid for Sanju. The exhibitors are just shooting up the prices like anything. there should be some law governing it
2.0 (Hindi) Sets Weekend Record for Akshay Kumar Films
Monday 03 December 2018 11.45 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
2.0 (Hindi) is the highest Akshay Kumar opening weekend and that too by a distance as it went through the figures of Housefull 3 by a margin. The film was a non holiday release and it had about 10% of the hindi film business missing due to a non release in the South for the Hindi version.
The Akshay Kumar factor is in play in this film as its North India which has out performed for this film. Till date every South dubbed film (be it a success or disaster) has under performed in places like Delhi / UP and East Punjab but here these two markets led the way. On Sunday they had crazy collections of 7.50 crore nett in Delhi / UP and 3.50 crore nett in East Punjab. Bahubali – The Conclusion was universal and performed to huge levels across all Hindi markets. The presence of Akshay Kumar has made a difference to the film across all Hindi markets especially North and Central India.
Bihar and Rajasthan are also huge for a dubbed film with Bihar possibly coming out with an all time record on Sunday for the highest single day in history.
Gold remains the highest opening day of Akshay Kumar but that was a national holiday release. Below are the top ten opening weekends of Akshay Kumar. Normally a film opens on Thursday if it is a holiday on Thursday or Friday but it was not the case here so the regular Fri-Sun weekend is taken for comparison. All are three days.
Congrats Naveen. Feeling happy for Akshay. I like Akki. More then Actor he is my fitness idol. Our physic is almost same. Both of us belive in natural body without going to gym. Healthy diet and normal exercise. As an actor also I am repeat this often in this decade and especially in last five year Akki has the most diverse kind of filmography. Meaningful film with good box office result. Quantity(no of films) with quality. I just pray success doesn’t go over his head like 2007-08. Khans, Akkis and Devgans of the world should understand this. Time is running out for them. They are not going to get younger. So focus on good film. Once again congrats to Naveen for weekend century.
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November 30, 2018 at 3:39 AM
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November 30, 2018 at 3:43 AM
Seems Hindi has disappointed. Master predicted 27 or 28, I went big at 35. The poor distribution will have dented a bit but overall this doesn’t seem to have the steam to beat Akshay’s top grosser. 20Cr is pretty much average, I won’t comment on other regions as don’t have the knowledge – default to Krish. Delays really hurt a film.
@Saket are you going to share your numbers?
It’s a separate thing that the reviews and response is better it seems. I’m going to continue my bad luck predictions and go big with Zero! I’ll get one right eventually! Zero day 1 will be 35Cr+.
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November 30, 2018 at 4:03 AM
I remember your first prediction. Those are bang on. You had predicted 20 Cr.
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November 30, 2018 at 4:24 AM
I think 2 things affected it jay..one was people didnt turn out for the 2D screens..3D were having good occupancy and 2D were running only at 25 percent..secondly the Thursday release I think didnt help at the high end multiplex. The advances of course opened late at cities and dented it..the smaller towns and cities have actually done quite well..20 cr is underpar definitely as it looked like opening to 30cr a week back..wom seems good to decent though but it needs more than just a weekend number
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November 30, 2018 at 4:34 AM
For me single biggest factor is delay. If this arrived on time everything would be better off. Cost lower, expectations higher, a clean release and all that together would just add up to a better result. 3D doing better is a good thing but I wonder how much of that can be changed scheduling wise now. WOM might give it a decent weekend but now it’s needing a good second week too. Reviews suggest a one time watch and experience, so I’d be surprised if Hindi goes above 150Cr now. 4 day weekend is struggling for 100Cr already…film needed some big 20’s here but only Sunday mught give that big day of 30+.
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November 30, 2018 at 8:01 AM
Yes, I’ll take a look in the evening.
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November 30, 2018 at 8:11 AM
You should not do it for this as we dont have a precedent or 60-40 3D to 2D screens..hard to compare with earlier numbers as occupancy is also skewed
Just saying..
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November 30, 2018 at 3:48 AM
Fans were hurtling abuses yesterday and now taran is mouthing excuses. 35 cr expected, actual is 20. Aukaad …
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November 30, 2018 at 4:00 AM
You abused yesterday. Behave today. I am watching you.
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November 30, 2018 at 4:02 AM
Finger pointing wont wash away ur sins, nor will people stop showing you a mirror.
I am saying same things today as yesterday, but u need to get sober. Its Ok – Akki isnt going to get a big one. Learn to live with it, or are you too old to do that?
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November 30, 2018 at 4:05 AM
Whether 2point0 is a flop or a hit…my language will not change.
Move on in life buddy….these things (flop/hits) are transient. I am still watching you. Just keep the language appropriate. its so much fun discussing in a respectful environment.
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November 30, 2018 at 4:22 AM
‘Respect’ needs to be earned … no free lunch for senior citizens … SO try to stop being moronic for a change? May work better than u can imagine.
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November 30, 2018 at 4:27 AM
I am asking you to be respectful towards others. I can take quirks like you…but others just leave. You are the damaging element.
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November 30, 2018 at 7:36 AM
Naveen is very well behaved. I have never seen him use bad language or be abusive. People have ganged up on him being Akki fan.
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November 30, 2018 at 3:51 AM
My point was Aamir was the only actor who had a realistic chance to eclipse BB2 as he was the first to break 100,200,300 crore barriers in Hindi film industry. As he is mid 50s, TOH was the last chance for him to break BB2 and bow out on a high. As he usually takes 2 to 3 years to make a movie, by the time his next movie comes he will be around 56. As for as Salman, Shah Rukh, Akshay, Hrithk and younger stars are concerned, they are fighting for 2nd place behind Aamir. As the undisputed crowdpuller and maker of exceptionally varied films, Aamir was the only one who had a realistic chance to get past BB2. Now it is impossible in near future for anyone to touch BB2.
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November 30, 2018 at 3:59 AM
I do not think BB2 was ever within reach for anyone. It’s not just the opening but the way it got accepted and hence the way it trended. Those were outrageous numbers.
So any movie that claims to aim for BB2 numbers before its release will get disappointed.
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November 30, 2018 at 4:00 AM
He is not interested anymore. His next projects in the pipeline are Netflix web-series on Mahabharata in 7 parts (no BO accounting for this one!) and a possible Forest Gump remake which isnt BB material.
As I said, he miscalculated the impact of Firangi’s grey character against masala expectations and took responsibility of that. No one forced him to do ToH, was HIS decision and he can live with it (and so can his fans). Its silly guyz like Salman who cant deal with their wounds and publicly blame and humiliate their pawns like Remo or Kabir.
Huge difference in attitude …
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November 30, 2018 at 4:07 AM
For example, Naveen was pumpd up for weeks to watch 2.0. He came back and hurled abuses at me without any provocation from my side at all … and finally when talked about the film it turned out that he had nothing much to say! Such misdirected anger comes from deep insecurity and frustration from within – so guyz like Salman needs to relax. Coz no one takes their shit so seriously …. its like tuteja’s gossip writing – does not matter.
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November 30, 2018 at 4:09 AM
I found the energy to attach at cockroaches and then when i opened the blog i saw you. Rest is your history.
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November 30, 2018 at 4:10 AM
attack*
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November 30, 2018 at 4:10 AM
You were arrogantly abusive…i mean Thotha chana se baaja kaise baj raha hai aur wo bhi gaaliyon ka?
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November 30, 2018 at 4:20 AM
Look up some shrinks man … all aamir fans were quite at peace after watching an underwhelming film given aamir’s standards. However, you are seriously damaged and unbalanced since yesterday, playing in an infinite loop.
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November 30, 2018 at 4:26 AM
After ToH, your cells got damaged. You have been repeatedly in vengeance. If things are not working as per your expectation you are going crazy.
I am seriously wondering about your mental health. Why dont you lean from other Aamir Khan fans…u are the odd one out. Bad one..actually trashy!
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November 30, 2018 at 4:27 AM
Again u are losing the plot here … want the mirror again?
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November 30, 2018 at 4:28 AM
As i said there are no mirrors now for you. Its me who is watching you. So behave now.
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November 30, 2018 at 4:40 AM
As i said, stop being moronic for a change (at least try) and ur blood pressure may decrease …
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November 30, 2018 at 4:41 AM
I am calm and observant. In fact am tracking abuses more than ever now.
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November 30, 2018 at 4:47 AM
You dont even get it that I have been calling u a moron continuously while you claim to be watching me … I rest my case.
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November 30, 2018 at 7:43 AM
Aamir and Akshay both are great in their own way. Both of them take unusual risks, reinvent themselves. They occasionally star in or make bad movie choices. But both are successful without comparing how many crores their movies do. Aamir’s does more but then he does far less work and spends years making movies. Having this debate between you two is childish. Toh was badly made and 2.0 maybe didn’t work in North. I hope both movies recover cost for sake of producers. Naveen, just ignore and let it go.
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November 30, 2018 at 4:03 AM
Agree but you never know, box office is unpredictable. It will obviously be a shock if it isn’t Aamir, Salman or SRK. Ranbir himself is officially sitting on a higher grosser than Salman already. If Zero fails I already imagine upteen articles writing off these 3 but one bad film is not enough. Aamir will be back IMO. Salman too. SRK is sitting on a hit with Zero me thinks. But even that is no guarantee. Youtube hits mean nothing, day 1 determines a lot now.
Don’t be shocked if something like Lion King ends up being top grosser next year.
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November 30, 2018 at 4:13 AM
I do not think Khans can cross the BB2 number. I will count on good hollywood movie like Avengers finale or Lion King or similar. Among stars younger guns are doing more exciting projects.
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November 30, 2018 at 7:48 AM
Bahubali in wrong hands could have been a super flop, huge disaster. It was not the “bigness” of the movie that made BB successful. That YRF missed and jumped into “big” movie bandwagon. Bahubali was a big movie, mounted on great script and story telling. The latter part hindi cinema/yrf missed. They could have instead made 5 or 10 great small movies with greater return on investment. Greed is horrible thing.
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November 30, 2018 at 7:57 AM
I said a lot during BB2 times that I expect many big budgeted disasters post BB2. I certainly expected TOH to be safe as I placed a massive premium on Aamir Khan. But these Bollywood folk haven’t learnt for many years. Even 2.0 could have been safe if vfx was on time, no delays. Professionalism is a huge cost here. These 2 films TOH and 2.0 had the time to correct their scripts post BB2 and costs.
Seriously Bhansali and Hirani deserve some credit. The former continues to make good on big budgeted films, the latter is making good on scripts translating into audience liking his films.
The small films get an A* this year.
Biggest films are on track for very average performance saved by unexpected Padmaavat and Sanju success, unless Zero fires up and delivers huge.
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November 30, 2018 at 9:19 AM
filmmaking and makers are super humans. They need to be awarded bharat ratna. I just can’t begin to imagine the pressure, the stress and infinite amount of patience they need to have on top of being creative. I would give up!
Are you going to watch Kedarnath starring Sara? What do you think of her so far?
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November 30, 2018 at 3:59 AM
Worldwide 2000 Cr of Dangal & 1800 Cr of BB2 was always out of reach. So is the domestic 1200 Cr of BB2 in all formats. The only aim for 2.0 is to surpass the domestic gross collections of Dangal & BB1 in all formats, which were a little over 500 Cr, 2-3 years ago. 2.0 has almost double the ticket rates than those films so perhaps it should fancy its chances.
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November 30, 2018 at 4:16 AM
Not sure if such targets mean anything after Dangal and BB2’s worldwide run. The official ToH ww gross is 255 cr now (same as Sarkar’s). But 100m from china can take that total to a cool 1000 cr gross. However, it will still remain a flop in india.
As for 2.0, it needs 375 cr ‘share’ to avoid losses for distributors – impossible in current scenario. Even TN may not sustain from Monday ….
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November 30, 2018 at 10:20 AM
Not sure if the Hindi version would entail losses because as per Nahta and BOI its been commissioned. Numbers game is more about popularity of a film than trade economics anyways.
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November 30, 2018 at 4:08 AM
Will 2.0 Hindi day 2 be same as day 1?
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November 30, 2018 at 4:23 AM
Day 1 is definitely a below par for 2point0 Hindi and overall for 2.0
With such a high cost, the mountain is looking steeper to climb now.
Its like Rohit Sharma is out and now all eyes on Kohli (in this case the weekend). Required run rate is 12.00
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November 30, 2018 at 4:26 AM
Thanks for listening … It will need to jump over weekend.
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November 30, 2018 at 4:16 AM
https://twitter.com/ManobalaV/status/1068431714043613185
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November 30, 2018 at 4:16 AM
TN has really outperformed.
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November 30, 2018 at 4:17 AM
So its not even 35 cr, just 2 cr more than Sarkar’s day 1 in TN.
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November 30, 2018 at 4:29 AM
TN is superb considering sarkar opened on diwali and this is a working Thursday…it has dropped in hindi today…20 percent types but night can improve as it is end of week
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November 30, 2018 at 4:35 AM
Krish – If 2point0 opened to 4000 screens in hindi..then got 40% opening in morning shows and did upto 65 % by the end of the day, shouldn’t it have 25Cr+ nett?…the numbers are not adding somewhere. If 20.25 Cr nett is true, then either the occupancy was less or the screen counts.
Again this is my guess based on screen count and occupance % of previous movies released this year,
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November 30, 2018 at 4:47 AM
The occupancies were poor in 2D throughout the day in cities.only 3 D performed….out of 4000 we dont know the 3D and 2 D split..that can explain the calculation…as I said they need to ensure there are more 3D screenings over weekend than 2D..audiences are not coming out for the 2D ones in hindi
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November 30, 2018 at 5:15 AM
hmm, It makes sense. 2D screens were bound to get impacted if 3D were to be so good.
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November 30, 2018 at 4:31 AM
Just amazing how much better sarkar is over kaala..almost double
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November 30, 2018 at 4:34 AM
u need to factor in increased ticket prices for 3d too. and again, bb2 also released on a working non-holiday.
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November 30, 2018 at 4:44 AM
Bb2 didnt this much inn TN BO.on day 1….3D is there that explains the difference of 2 crs….the 3 Cs are all single screens..multiplexes are restricted to bigTN citirs..sarkar pretty much was running at 100 percent..or close to it..this has matched that on a working day..I dont think it could have done more in TN..other states is a different matter altogether…BB2 is not a comparison that’s a monster..
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November 30, 2018 at 4:33 AM
And for the nth time … resident trolls are encouraged to ‘read’ this (inspite of not having such a habit!) to understand my regards for ToH … the film and the final outcome (Aamir going forward with MB web-series instead of films) are both to my immense liking.
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‘Firangi In Engleeshthan’ – Cracking the TOH Code!
Some fans in this blog have talked about Amitabh in TOH and how its a tribute to his peak imagery that has been lost in time. A few Aamir fans have said Firangi is a ‘fun’ character and that Aamir had a ball doing this. There is no doubt that he did, not at least to those who has actually seen this film. But thats not all!
I have loved this character (seen it 2 times in theatres already and will eagerly wait for it to some on netflix/prime for more viewings). Its not that you can resist laughing WITH him and AT him, the ‘duplicity’ in this double-crossing ‘thug’ quite amusingly represents Aamir in Bollywood over last 20 years. For every Sarfarosh he has always backtracked with a Mela. There was MP following Lagaan, Fanaa after RDB, Ghajini after TZP, DG after 3I (!), D3 after Talaash and son and so forth. After he reached a crescendo with Dangal’s success all over, he selected to do TOH with YRF/Acharya gang! In short, he has been double-crossing his different set of audience all through these years and everyone had accepted it passively. Till TOH released …
There is an introductory scene of Firangi, after double crossing a maharaja, a bunch of thugs and then the brits (with a grandma dying story) he proudly goes off sitting on a donkey (that he proudly calls his master – a dethroned Nawab) wearing a ridiculous hat and a pair of red goggles. The scene is gleefully edited with Firangi’s donkey taking one step forward, then one step backward. Its a hilarious representation with an apt bgm … and is more allegorical than Amitabh’s physically impressive swashbuckling gig at 75.
And its not done in a way to demean anyone. Its much more self-deprecating humor than Mera Naam Joker or Kaagaz Ke Phool. At one point his reluctant side-kick tells him that either he is ‘mahaan’ or a ‘chutiya’. Firangi coolly retorts back claiming he is a ‘mahaan chutiya’. He literally kills the film by winking at his audience for 3 fun-filled hours. And during my second viewing I felt that showing a mirror to all his diverse audience was perhaps the primary reason behind such extreme backlash uniformly from all quarters.
If you revisit the film, once Khdabaksh dies (apparently) and passes the amulet to Firangi, he is just using his duplicity to help out in the cause. Its a devious Machiavellian way to get to the target. He just appears to be helping the brits. At least for me, thats the highlight of the film! [ And I will add this bit. Both of Aamir’s characters in SS and TOH are similar in the fact that both come across ‘non-hero’ like (even repulsive to some extent by traition) but actually helps out in the cause more than anyone else. So in that way SS and TOH form a ‘couple’. This maybe one focal reason why both films have been rejected in India. We perhaps cant consume such characters in a mass scale commercial entertainer. Or maybe all the message-oriented films have made it impossible for him to be acceptable in a non-straight role in India? ]
After his usual berayal, Firangi asked Khudabaksh to not sacrifice himself. In fact he explicitly states that he first betrayed him and then saved his life. So they are now quits as per him. He has no qualms or guilt regarding Khudabaksh sacrificing himself. But since Khudabaksh requests him to save Zafira, he obliges cause he perhaps felt responsible for putting her in danger with his betrayal. Once he saves her, he wants to leave the thugs and move on. But has a change of heart when the brits attack their hideout. Why shud he suddenly become a shahenshah like messiah as expected in a regular masala movie? It makes no sense.
However, once he has a change of heart he takes Zafira to Surraiya and together they plot to kill clyve during dussehra festivities. But when he finds out that Khudabaksh is alive he pretends to side with brits so that he can give them an advantage which he clearly explains later. When the time comes he saves Khudabaksh and the thugs finally defeat the brits. Once that job is done, he wants to move on because he has another dream to fulfill- Firangi in Engleeshthan! So no surprise that he is planning MB with Netflix next.
In some pop-philosophy thrown in TOH, he did what it took to be ‘alive’ given his circumstances. To which Khudabaksh says that everyone gets a chance to redeem himself … and Firangi responds well when the time comes. Remember Lagaan, RDB, DCH, Dangal, PK to name a few?
In another perspective, its a dual tribute to both masala and jack sparrow – which made in jarring to some extent, more alien in my books to a surprised audience.
Anyways, in TOH the emotional connect for revenge angle had to be with Fatima’s character. But it never happens to due to Acharya’s lacking and Fatima’s poor acting. [ Even SS suffered with similar lack of connection with the lead girl due to more aggressive and one-dimensional characterisation.] TOH is more hollywood at its core (specially Firangi’s characterization) than any regular masala troupe that the general indian audience is used to. I guess it was bound to face the backlash the way it did. Whats completely logical in a typical hollywood script can unsettle the indian audience due to their ‘set’ expectations. That way TOH is perhaps as big a disappointment as Taran is shouting for last few days. [ But SS did fine in China. Lets see what TOH does in Jan. ]
I felt cinematography is top-notch – They have created a true fairy-land with forts and jungles and all that is supposedly exotic to foreign eyes about India. The Rajasthan bits just seals it.
I criticised the vfx shown in trailer, but didnt mind it during theater watching (cant say that about BB2). Yfx team surely did some work here after the trailer backlash.
With the overall backlash and nil acceptance of TOH, this will hopefully be the end of his Firangi-ness in his project selection. Khudabaksh puts it aptly that he can sense a ‘restless’-ness in Firangi and hoped to make him truly free (Azaad!). I guess he may truly succeed in this. The MB decision is the right direction (no matter what results such a huge project will yield).
Bye bye Masala. Bye bye Firangi. And as Firangi would say – “Jai Shambhu !”
Postscript – On Mahabharata Web-series:
Looking at the Indian response to SS and TOH, i dont think its wise to invest a lot of money to make a MB films with Aamir as Krishna. Unless one dumbs it down … but then the essence of the story itself will vaporize. Krishna is a lot more Machiavellian character in MB than Firangi. I am quite intrigued to know how masala fans wud react to see a ‘desi masala film’ where Arjuna defeats Bhishma using Shikhandi as a shield (as advised by Krishna), Krishna emotionally brainwashing Arjuna (by citing Abhimanyu’s death) to unethically slaughter Karna (when the latter had requested a pause in battle) or Bheema defeating Duryodhana on final day by sheer cheating (again as advised by ‘God’ Krishna). No way he can play such a character in any other platform than a Netflix web series.
One can never emotionally connect to a character like Krishna (whether depicted in a serious avatar or a more notorious ‘natkhat’ avatar). You can perhaps connect with Pandavas or the Karna character emotionally in a masala setting (lowbrow or highbrow) with all their history and value for righteousness and other angles romped up properly by a director of Rajamouli’s caliber. Krishna’s actions are not so black or white and will never connect in a ‘traditional’ masala setting.
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November 30, 2018 at 5:00 AM
Well written. When the dust settles, some may appreciate firangi.
A big success would have made him take bigger risks, Now he will think before taking any decision.
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November 30, 2018 at 7:57 AM
At the end of the day paying audience is the judge, jury and justice. It doesn’t matter what individual viewers say. I am glad that Aamir didn’t produce this movie. At the most he lost of the profit sharing paycheck and it is ok for him. In that sense, it is ok to take risk and try different things. It is impossible to always hit the bullseye and jackpot. Occassional failures are good for human growth and keeping ego in check. He must have had fun two years and got his dream to work with Bachchan fulfilled. After success of Badhai Ho, YRF should focus on making smaller budget movies with better scripts and smaller but more talented actors. Lesser risk and return on investment is higher even if moderate success.
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November 30, 2018 at 10:25 AM
Doesn’t matter the character, TOH is a rank bad and dumb film written & directed by a film maker who neither has the nuances to appease masses and nor the wow factor to appease the metropolitan crowd. AK’s biggest mess up here was to do a film with Viktor for a second time after a substandard outing in Dhoom 3.
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November 30, 2018 at 10:39 AM
Well, some people who disliked D3 liked toh. I did not mind even D3. It was fun. A film’s rejection does not mean that even good acting should not be appreciated. A highly successful film maybe dumb like Golmal returns or Judwa2.
As for ego being crushed, it is a sadistic thing to say even for Race3. Every film rejected big or small breaks many people including workers. It is a circle. Of course such things give pleasure to some.
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November 30, 2018 at 10:50 AM
I meant big ego of actor which otherwise might think he/she in invincible. The workers already got their payment and will move to other movies.
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November 30, 2018 at 11:38 AM
Agree that some shocks are required to make big stars introspect.
But it should not result like what happened to Gurudutt and Vinod Mehra.
As for small producers, today I read that Rajpal Yadav is going to jail for not returning 5 crores borrowed for making a film that flopped. Failure always has domino effect like some production houses being closed and the the workers employed losing their jobs. But these things do happen in other sectors too. One has to learn to live with all this.
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November 30, 2018 at 11:26 PM
ToH is hardly a ‘rank bad or dumb’ film as it has been largely made out to be. It belongs to the set of average films in Aamir’s repertoire like Talaash, Secret Superstar, Mangal Pandey – films which were only liked by a niche section of his audience. If you want to cuss Aamir for making dumb films then please point to Ghajini or D3 (but you wont have the balls to do that because masses had lapped them up as blockbusters).
On a bigger scale, if you want more successful yet dumb films, I will recommend stuff like Gadar and BB2 (not BB1 which was indeed far superior as a film than Katappa kyon Maara sequel).
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November 30, 2018 at 4:36 AM
A senior movie star is said to be especially upset about the failure of his recent film because— among other things—the movie had taken a serious toll on his health. Sources say the actor’s costumes were uncomfortable, and the film’s many physical sequences were hard to perform at his age. Looking back, he feels the discomfort endured and sacrifices made were in vain. Insiders also reveal that the actor was not particularly keen to do the movie in the first place, but was persuaded by the makers who were relentless in their requests for him to take the role. He is said to be disappointed in the makers for failing to spot the problems in the script and deliver a compelling film.
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November 30, 2018 at 4:38 AM
Big B?
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November 30, 2018 at 5:01 AM
Its a big disappointment for him too after all the hype.
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November 30, 2018 at 8:00 AM
This is a blind? Even a blind man can see who it is. Bachchan has so much money and success and love from people. He should not worry about BO. People are still casting him at 70+.
Something that even deniro and pacinos don’t have. Yes, he should have said no based on the adverse health effect poor man had to go through in making of ToH.
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November 30, 2018 at 3:37 PM
Amitabh is wise and experienced enough to decide for himself, to recognize a bad script, to assess his health situation, to say no.
Aamir took responsibility, Amitabh seems to blame others.
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November 30, 2018 at 4:41 AM
Geez Marcus and Naveen…shut the F up. You boys are saying samething to each other. Just STOP.
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November 30, 2018 at 4:45 AM
It is becoming like Tom and Jerry.
They have to avoid each other.
One day Naveen. Next day Marcus.
Thats the only way to stop this never ending feud.
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November 30, 2018 at 5:12 AM
Please do not paint us in the same colour and try to dilute the point i am raising.
He is an incorrigible abusive person.
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November 30, 2018 at 5:30 AM
In that case, I have to request Marcus not to interact with you.
And then apply for Nobel Peace prize.
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November 30, 2018 at 5:36 AM
Moronism cant survive when abused and abuse cant stop while moronism exists. Catch 22 situation. But will try to ignore on sanjana’s request.
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November 30, 2018 at 6:09 AM
Marcus, I hope I won’t have to put all your comments in moderation. Stop now!
Naveen, even if you’re not at fault initially you don’t have to keep responding.
Again guys I’ve not had a chance to look at everything but you should just not engage with each other, irrespective of whoever’s fault it is.
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November 30, 2018 at 5:42 AM
Thanks Marcus. For some days atleast you avoid and ignore. It makes a lot of difference.
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November 30, 2018 at 5:10 AM
I will not stop if he goes on. Sorry.
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November 30, 2018 at 5:12 AM
Ok. Check the Twitter video on Salman.
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November 30, 2018 at 5:17 AM
Please share the link.
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November 30, 2018 at 5:18 AM
At bottom of thread
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November 30, 2018 at 5:04 AM
The fact that in India except In Telugu speaking states, nobody knew about Prabhas, Rana, Anushka,Kattappa and Rajamouli made BB2 a true blue pan India Blickbuster . The movie going audience were so pumped up to watch it, the result was shattering of every record. When event films happened before like Mother India, Mughal-E-Azam, Sholay, Hum Apke Hai Kaun, Dilwale Dulhania Lejayenge and Lagaan, the actors and actresses were known throughout India. That makes BB2 achievement even more commendable. I think the next BB2 eclipser will not come from any established stars including 3 Khans but from completely unknown ones like BB2. Wish to see it sooner than later.
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November 30, 2018 at 5:08 AM
BB2 maybe a very big success but we remember and relish a Sholay more. It is all about aging well.
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November 30, 2018 at 5:33 AM
Thats one problem with BB2, its bo is what people will remember it by, not as a film. Dangal is a much better deal to have.
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November 30, 2018 at 5:40 AM
Even telugu people will remember ANR’s Devdas more fondly than BB2. My favourite actors are ANR and NTR in that order from telugu movies.
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November 30, 2018 at 10:30 AM
Believe you me, 80% of BB2’s blockbuster success needs to be attributed to the praise, appreciation and admiration BB1 received, both in theaters and television. The open ended climax was a masterstroke thereby raising curiosity level to fever pitch. BB2 pales in comparison to BB1 as a wholesome product in terms of screenplay, dialogues and VFx too. BB2’s climatic duel is cartoonish and video game like when compared to BB1’s epic climatic duel between the mahishmati kingdom and kalakeyas. The biggest, and perhaps the only reason for BB2’s monster success is BB1’s epic second half and the legendary climax.
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November 30, 2018 at 10:35 AM
BB2 has some wonderful conflicts, courtroom drama like scenes. I do agree overall 1st part edges it. But the key thing is for a 2nd part to meet or exceed expectations is never easy and here BB2 delivered massively.
It’s like Usain Bolt doing 100m and 200m back to back. The former is the headline event but the latter is still gold and following 100m only immortals do it. The hook obviously helps but you still have to execute the 2nd film.
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November 30, 2018 at 10:57 AM
Which is why I think Stree 2 will be massive as well. It could easily go north of 200 crores…even 300, in the likely event that it gets its comic and horror elements right, just like part 1.
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November 30, 2018 at 12:59 PM
Yet i doubt Stree 2 (if ever made as a direct sequel with the same cast) would ever have the imagination or novelty of part 1.
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November 30, 2018 at 2:05 PM
It is getting made and it’s supposed to tie up all the loose ends from Part 1.
I think it was always planned that way as well.
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November 30, 2018 at 5:08 AM
https://twitter.com/BollywoodGandu/status/1068413101152837633?s=20
THIS IS EPIC TROLLING
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November 30, 2018 at 5:20 AM
hahaha…i would have missed it had Jayshah not asked me to watch. This is awesome…LIT
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November 30, 2018 at 6:54 AM
This made my morning. Thanks for sharing.
The last two were awesome (Story/Logic).
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November 30, 2018 at 8:11 AM
Agree, script logic…just ignore. 🙂 😉
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November 30, 2018 at 5:32 AM
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December 1, 2018 at 9:34 PM
Shankar himself is fully aware that an average opening does not mean ‘success’ for his 550 cr film. Yet he is already calling it a success on social media.
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November 30, 2018 at 5:33 AM
Next big thing from Ayushman
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November 30, 2018 at 6:07 AM
2.0 box office day 1: Akshay Kumar, Rajinikanth film breaks records, earns Rs 110 cr worldwide
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November 30, 2018 at 6:11 AM
Let’s see how it does going forward but being just 30 lakhs or so ahead of Sarkar in Chennai with the 3D advantage is hardly anything very special.
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November 30, 2018 at 6:55 AM
But Sarkar also released on Diwali so let’s see how the weekend plays out. I’m thinking the movie will crash on Monday.
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November 30, 2018 at 6:53 AM
https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/lion-air-crash-sheds-light-on-dark-side-of-cockpit-automation/story-BjDZkQm9DqVWoxwo3baL2J.html
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November 30, 2018 at 6:59 AM
Song of the day:
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November 30, 2018 at 7:39 AM
https://boxofficeindia.com/report-details.php?articleid=4475
I am not clear how TN can be less than AP..some correction is needed here
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November 30, 2018 at 7:47 AM
http://andhraboxoffice.com/info.aspx?id=5321&cid=6&fid=6014
ABO has given their breakup..here share is distributor share not net..that’s 48cr on a 93 cr gross…but again the TN completely stumps me..how can it be a 16cr gross..we read it was 33 cr gross..even otherwise 16cr for a rajni movie doesnt make sense…am thoroughly confused about TN numbers..everything else is clear…
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November 30, 2018 at 7:50 AM
Again ABO says 16cr gross for TN..and BOI says 16cr net..very confusing
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November 30, 2018 at 7:48 AM
Most people have arrived in this range. I think looking at the economics here the film’s heading for flop even though it may make good theatrical business and reviews are decent enough. The costs became too big, poor management basically.
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November 30, 2018 at 7:51 AM
Yeah I get that but I am genuinely curious on specifically the TN numbers…it cannot be 16cr gross. That’s too less
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November 30, 2018 at 7:57 AM
No change in programming yet..only 3D collecting..kjo should have been more proactive
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November 30, 2018 at 8:02 AM
No way this happens in China. Absolute joke.
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November 30, 2018 at 8:04 AM
https://www.firstpost.com/entertainment/2-0-box-office-collection-rajinikanth-akshay-kumar-film-collects-rs-75-5-cr-from-all-versions-on-opening-day-5646711.html
In TN, 2.0 has not crossed Sarkar. It’s around 20/22 Cr Gross and that is high-end PR number. There is another figure doing the rounds which is close to 14 Cr Nett. 2.0 simply did not have the occupancy of Sarkar, so crossing it is out of the question.
But, that is not shocking BO update with 2.0. It is the US opening where the premiere+Day 1 is less than 1 Million. Kabali did 2.7M on Day 1 a few years ago.
It’s a decent watch so should be stable over the weekend and not crash like TOH. Doubt it will have any legs after that, though. The makers have botched up with the release date.
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November 30, 2018 at 8:16 AM
The net for TN here is 20 so gross obviously is above 25cr…it still doesnt tally with ABO and BOI TN numbers…I wont be surprised if this hasnt beaten sarkar but I still think the gross will be close to 30cr..satyam and mayajaal were showing all.shows full and this was not a kaala kind of deal where audience chose not to turn up…not sure what’s the deal..all said and done the movie does look like tanking and a big one at that because TN alone anyways cannot save it
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November 30, 2018 at 8:25 AM
Sri50 doesn’t report Nett (if he does, he would mention it specifically). The gross here is 20/22 Cr, Nett in 14/16 Cr region. So, there is no confusion actually. Only the Hindi number is Nett which if adjusted is close to what others are reporting.
As far as tanking, don’t think it will do TOH tank at least until the weekend.
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November 30, 2018 at 8:42 AM
But looks like he has added the hindi net to the Tamil gross to get 73 cr then…
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November 30, 2018 at 8:20 AM
https://indianexpress.com/article/entertainment/tamil/tamilrockers-2-0-hc-order-difficult-to-stop-5472821/
A senior police official in the cyber crime department said his attempts to take down Tamilrockers and their proxy servers in the past were mostly futile for many reasons.
“Tamilrockers is not run by a single individual or a single entity, it is a scattered group of people, who may be anonymous to each other, possibly working abroad. In multiple occasions during some blockbuster movie leaks in the past, we have found that their sites were often hosted by proxy servers based in Russia, Ukraine or countries like that which give immunity from legal actions,” the official said on the condition of anonymity.
The official said the leaks weren’t driven by personal vendetta against a particular producer.
“It is also supported and run by a section of online activists who believes in an ideology against knowledge industry, that drives these anonymous groups successful in many leaks in spite of a massive crackdown of many URLs,” the official said.
The highly awaited Rajinikanth movie, directed by Shankar and reported to have cost over Rs 500 crore to make, may have suffered significant losses due to piracy. The fear of piracy had prompted Lyca Productions – the film’s producers – to move a petition in the court with a list of 12,564 illegal websites, some of which were linked to Tamilrockers.
Even though Lyca Productions submitted a probable list of sites, a new URL of Tamilrockers with a link to ‘2.0’ appeared on Thursday and went viral on social media. Hundreds tweeted asking for a fresh link to the pirated version. Even though some URLs of some proxy sites disappeared after the initial leaks, more URLs appeared with minor changes in them. Some of the websites featured alternate spellings of Tamilrockers such as tamilrockerss.cl, tamilrockerss.website etc.
“In many cases, we found that leaked prints are mostly procured from theatres abroad, such as in Malaysia or Europe. They get recorded with camera phones by individual viewers, or from labs during post-production works,” the police official said.
V Rajendran, an expert in cyber law and the chairman of Chennai-based Digital Security Association, said a battle with such proxy sites may be a difficult task for India.
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November 30, 2018 at 8:45 AM
Audience should be educated in this matter, be principled enough, not to watch on these pirated sites. Watching a pirated print is akin to stealing. This idea should be hammered home through advertisements in theatres, on web, tv, every available, platform.
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November 30, 2018 at 9:05 AM
When are you going to watch it? Share your views after watching.
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November 30, 2018 at 8:42 AM
In other news TOH third week collections are below Mela 3rd week collections!
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November 30, 2018 at 8:46 AM
Wait for China show.
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November 30, 2018 at 9:08 AM
There is a saying ‘ninda muniginavadiki chalemiti?’ Haha!
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November 30, 2018 at 8:49 AM
Dont think ABO and Boi will be both wrong abt TN numbers. The 35 cr gross number may be a hoax. This increasingly seems like a Ra.One deja vu, where it wont sustain beyond the weekend despite BS numbers thrown around.
ABO says only 48 cr ‘share’ from day one … 375 cr ‘share’ for recovery is a long way off. We may be looking at massive losses in a week’s time.
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November 30, 2018 at 8:57 AM
Agree 35cr might be a hoax but even abo and boi numbers are not tallying..one is saying 16cr net other is saying gross..think we will get real number by tomorrow when they will update it..boi does say it’s not final number..
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November 30, 2018 at 8:53 AM
From what I got to know from the comments on the other blog, it looks like neutral tamil audience are not happy with Rajni show. And they are unable to connect to Akshay too. VFX also not compensating for lack of proper screenplay and direction.
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November 30, 2018 at 8:56 AM
The enthusiasm displayed during CCV release is not visible. Maybe an intellectual thing.
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November 30, 2018 at 9:45 AM
https://www.addatoday.com/2018/11/20-hindi-2nd-day-friday-collection.html?m=1
16-17Cr estimate 2nd day
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November 30, 2018 at 10:24 AM
I’ve lucked out on 2.0. The Tamil version (including the 3D one) is playing very close to me. Normally this theater rarely shows Indian movies. The only problem now is: I’m not sure if the movie is worth checking out! Can’t do it for another 2-3 days anyway. Liked the first one a lot but the reviews are tricky for this one (though Tamil reviews are much more positive than the Hindi ones).
http://www.sify.com/movies/2o-review-exhausting-but-watchable-review-tamil-sl3jsMiajacef.html
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November 30, 2018 at 10:28 AM
See it in 3D not 2D if possible
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November 30, 2018 at 10:56 AM
I might go in today for 3D show.
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November 30, 2018 at 11:42 AM
2.0 ALL INDIA First Day Territorial Breakdown
Friday 30 November 2018 11.30 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
2.0 has collected 64 crore nett apprx all over India which is a huge number but still just a little more than 50% of Bahubali – The Conclusion which is the highest first day collection in India of 123 crore nett apprx.
The surprise is the figures in North India and Central India as well as Bihar. These markets have done very well for a dubbed film. The South is good but the trade there probably expected higher numbers especially the home market of Tamil Nadu. Bihar is almost at the level of Thugs Of Hindostan with a Thursday release compared to the Diwali day of Thugs Of Hindostan. The single screens in the circuit ran to full or near full houses.
The all India territorial breakdown is as follows and the figures are for all languages in each circuit. The collections in Mumbai and Tamil Nadu are apprx and could go a little higher.
Mumbai – 6,50,00,000 apprx
Delhi / UP – 4,86,00,000
East Punjab – 1,93,00,000
Rajasthan – 1,28,00,000
CP Berar – 1,32,00,000
CI – 93,00,000
Nizam Andhra – 16,79,00,000
Mysore / Karnataka – 7,26,00,000
Tamil Nadu – 16,50,00,000 apprx
Kerala – 3,44,00,000
West Bengal – 1,06,00,000
Bihar – 1,22,00,000
Assam – 29,00,000
Odisha – 68,00,000
TOTAL – 64,06,00,000 apprx
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November 30, 2018 at 11:43 AM
India Top Opening Day All Formats – 2.0 Second
Friday 30 November 2018 15.30 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
2.0 has collected around 64 crore nett which will give GROSS box office of around 80 crore. It is the biggest total ever after Bahubali – The Conclusion which is a phenomenal 150 crore plus.
It now means that the top two openers across India are both films from the South and three of the top five are from South with 2.0, Bahubali – The Conclusion and Kabali in the top five and the other two being Thugs Of Hindostan and Prem Ratan Dhan Payo both Hindi releases. Rajnikant is the only star to have two in the top five.
2018 has seen four entries with 2.0, Thugs of Hindostan, Sarkar (Tamil Film), and Sanju. Below are the top ten openers across India in all formats. All figures are GROSS.
1. Bahubali 2 – The Conclusion (2017) – 154.89 crore
2. 2.0 (2018) – 80 crore apprx
3. Thugs Of Hindostan (2018) – 63.50 crore
4. Prem Ratan Dhan Payo (2015)- 55.03 crore
5. Kabali (2016) – 53.96 crore
4. Sultan (2016) – 51.15 crore
6. Happy New Year (2014) – 50.78 crore
7. Bahubali – The Beginning (2015) – 49.48 crore
8. Dhoom 3 (2013)- 45.67 crore
9. Sarkar (2018) – 44.29 crore
10. Sanju (2018) – 43.74 crore
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November 30, 2018 at 11:46 AM
http://english.entgroup.cn/boxoffice/cn/daily/
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November 30, 2018 at 11:51 AM
I hope China doesn’t get confused that Bachchan is doing some Benjamin Button trick over next month…
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November 30, 2018 at 11:54 AM
I read somewhere Bachchan’s role is slashed and if 102 not out is a success they may rethink.
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November 30, 2018 at 11:51 AM
https://indianexpress.com/article/india/rajpal-yadav-sentenced-to-3-month-prison-in-rs-5-crore-loan-case-5473079/
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November 30, 2018 at 12:05 PM
The advance for Saturday and Sunday is looking better now. It might get a jump and not face complete rejection
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November 30, 2018 at 12:16 PM
It’s dithering and has no chance for breakeven. Like simplyRDB said the overseas numbers too are below mark. The hit it out of the park scenario is gone, now it’s about getting to a decent number at best.
My own Hindi estimate has this at no more than 115Cr in first week at best (8 day week). If it beats this number it’ll be good WOM in play and will go above 160Cr LT. It needs a huge weekend and if that were to happen that swing would have been reported today. Haven’t read or seen anything positive today suggesting positive WOM has come into play.
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November 30, 2018 at 12:47 PM
It has jumped on Friday overseas compared to Thursday..
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November 30, 2018 at 12:09 PM
As reported earlier, this morning, the couple flew to Jodhpur (their wedding destination) along with their families and very close friends.
This morning a report in DNA revealed that the security at Umaid Bhavan in Jodhpur (Priyanka- Nick’s Wedding Venue) has been beefed up and the hotel staff members have been sent on leave. Only managerial level staff will continue to work for the next five days.
But, strict rules have been laid down for them too. They won’t be allowed to use their smartphones, instead, they will be given basic phones to communicate.
The pre-nuptial ceremonies will be starting from today and every possible measure is taken to make it the most coveted affair. The hotel staff that has been sent on leave from today, has been replaced by the employees of the event management and security firms hired by the hosts.
Strict rules have been laid down for the guests too. Along with the staff and the security, even guests attending the wedding festivities cannot carry their mobiles for any of the ceremonies.
Priyanka and Nick have signed a $2.5-million deal with an international magazine for the pictures’ rights and hence stringent measures are being taken to prevent any leakage of photographs or videos.
A close source has revealed to DNA that two American companies and one Indian firm have been taken on board to manage the security of Umaid Bhawan Palace.
The security guards deployed with the royal family too will be removed from the hotel and only the palace’s catering staff will remain the same. A set of security team has been specially hired to prevent any gate crashers.
Along with all these measures, jammers have been installed at the venues to block signals at the time of the ceremonies.
Now, a fresh news that’s making rounds, states that the guests attending the wedding have been made to sign a confidentiality contract.
A report in PinkVilla states that apart from beefing up the security, the guests at the wedding have been asked to sign the confidentiality clauses. Every guest invited for the wedding received a personal call and has been asked to sign a confidentiality clause.
With high-end security on board, total replacement of staff, no cell phones clause, confidentiality clause and powerful jammers; Nick and Priyanka have left no stone unturned to make their wedding the most coveted affair!
Thursday, November 29, 2018 | 4:34:00 PM IST (+05:30 GMT)
6 Comments | By Priyanka Chauhan
Indiaforums
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November 30, 2018 at 1:53 PM
I am so happy that instead of going to italy like deepika and anushka, priyanka is having it in India and Rajasthan! Nothing beats the royal indian palace as backdrop for your big fat indian wedding.
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November 30, 2018 at 12:20 PM
Another biggie to disappoint now all eyes on the last two zero and simmba
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November 30, 2018 at 12:43 PM
Manto is on Netflix… FYI
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November 30, 2018 at 1:02 PM
Tumbad and pataka on prime
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November 30, 2018 at 1:17 PM
Great news, Thanks.. ws waiting to see all 3 movies..Manto..Tumbadd and Patakha.
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November 30, 2018 at 1:48 PM
patakha has india-pakistan, israel-palestine and some other country as the “moral” of the story, which didn’t make a whole lot of sense to me. Vishal cannot make a film without some of his personal bias on politics coming in.
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November 30, 2018 at 2:22 PM
Patakha has an interesting premise , so will definitely watch it .Manto has Nawaz which is plus one , but Nandita Das is minus 100 so net is “-ve 99”, bada asamnjas hai .
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November 30, 2018 at 2:43 PM
Rock :
Whenever there is conflict between head and heart.
Alwas follow heart 🙂
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November 30, 2018 at 3:22 PM
ha ha, magar I know dil Manmarziya dekhney par zaroor majboor kar dega !! Eagerly waiting for MM and Andhadhund.
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November 30, 2018 at 1:50 PM
Rocky, are you watching mirzapur on prime? Munnabhai is key character in it 😉
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November 30, 2018 at 2:17 PM
I have not yet, but a Delhi born Tamilian dear friend who recently moved to Dallas calls me up and says – Yaar Mirzapur dekh kar tumhari yaad aa gai .
I wonder why ..LOL!!
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November 30, 2018 at 2:44 PM
Cuss words 😛
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November 30, 2018 at 3:26 PM
sahee pakdey hain.
Really liked Inside edge the best between Sacred, Inside and Breathe .
Loved Bodyguard, currently watching The Five .
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November 30, 2018 at 4:35 PM
I will add another one for Rocky. Lots of sex. 😉
I like it over GoW, ‘coz it is pure entertainment. But that is subjective. It is definitely better than Sacred Games which was pure hype and nothing else.
I love it when desi actors channel their inner Marlon Brando, Godfather type acting. Tripathi plays gangsta in most movies. So it is different, different version of Brando. And the whole cast is awesome. It is extremely predictable, extremely enjoyable masala, with tons of gory violence which is shown in very creative ways, sex, bad language and small town ki feel aati hai. Acting, scripting, editing is amazing but the best part is the underlying humor. There is a natgeo scene that made me laugh so hard. It is a fun ride, though I have only watched few episodes and not finished it yet. Each episode ends with “roundtable” with director and actors discussing the episode, which makes it even more interesting. And Ali Fazal is pure eye candy. Well played by all.
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November 30, 2018 at 11:01 PM
Tripathi is great as the “matter of fact” gangster in YRF’s Powder which is also up on Netflix.
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December 1, 2018 at 11:21 PM
@rocky, inside edge and mirjapur are written by same person. https://www.indulgexpress.com/entertainment/celebs/2018/nov/23/meet-the-showman-behind-the-latest-web-series-mirzapur-11270.html
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November 30, 2018 at 12:53 PM
So people are trying to do downplay Babubali saying the will be remembered only for thier BO scucess and not as a polished product. Ha..Ha..Fool yourself. Just remember
1- Characters like Bahubali, Katappa, Bhalladev will be remember forever.
2- Though story is noy unique but the screenplay and how so many things pulled together with seemlessness will be gold standerd for future.
3- Bahubali taught us that only CGI is not enough to make a good film you still need a good story.
4- Ofcourse..The trending and final BO result will be there to remember.
I havent any memory of Gadar b/c that time i am not that mush into films but Babhubali is the only film (say in last quarter of century) that is truley an event film. I have seen people were posting thier photo with Bahubali-2 ticket in social media if it was a entry of some sort of elite club. So
Hail Bahubali
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November 30, 2018 at 12:57 PM
And don’t forget, it was woman empowerment (along with objectification) in many ways.
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November 30, 2018 at 2:13 PM
BB2 was stunning as well as the first part. But it is remembered more for its BO success.
But for me some films like Mera Naam Joker, Sholay, Aaradhana were more impactful as stories. Music also is important for a fulfilling experience.
Each to his own.
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November 30, 2018 at 2:19 PM
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November 30, 2018 at 1:43 PM
https://c.ndtvimg.com/2018-11/b6atkiv_ambanis-ndtv_625x300_30_November_18.jpg?output-quality=70&output-format=webp
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November 30, 2018 at 1:44 PM
https://www.ndtv.com/entertainment/priyanka-chopra-and-nick-jonas-wedding-nita-ambani-and-mukesh-ambani-arrive-in-jodhpur-with-isha-and-1956117?pfrom=home-lateststories
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November 30, 2018 at 1:51 PM
Tumbbad is on my watchlist.
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November 30, 2018 at 5:46 PM
you know that it is horror movie, right?
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November 30, 2018 at 8:22 PM
I watched Bhoot and some other horror flicks like Darna mana hai by RGV. Is Tumbbad more horror than them?
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November 30, 2018 at 9:53 PM
I don’t watch horror. Haunting and Tummbad. The latter just finished. It was not that bad thriller-horror both, meaning not that scary. I removed audio when I got scared, twice or thrice. It is atmospheric (had to be shot over four monsoon seasons to capture the rain), very dark-literally as it is of pre-independance time era. Remember the famous dialogue of sholay “maa kehti hai beta so ja nahi toh gabbar aa jayega”. After watching Tumband, I remembered this sholay dialogue. The movie is about horror of greed. The film opened venice film festival, as critics choice. It is very rooted in Indian folk tales. Bit more on arty side but I liked it a lot. In past I have liked commercial masala thriller/horror like Kaun. Ek Haseena thi.
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November 30, 2018 at 9:56 PM
thanks. I will watch it.
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November 30, 2018 at 9:54 PM
haunting as in “haunting of hill house”
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November 30, 2018 at 1:52 PM
2.0: My review
Sometime last week, the shrewd producer Karan, an opportunist both in his party circles as well as in terms of projects, stated how Baahubali was a slap in the face of all of us. I do not know the context of the statement, nor do I gave it enough thought at the time. But after watching 2.0, I do believe presenting both this film and the larger than life Bahubali movies for the Hindi audience has been the best thing he has ever done for cinema.
Enough digression already, and enough credit given to Johar already. 2.0 is a bloody good jolly time at the movies, where Shankar, the master “imaginator” and a genius of a man who gets things done and shown to the audience exactly the way he wants, conjures up a film that simply refuses to let you look away. Yes, it has “massy” written all over it, where he respects the time of the paying public and shows a big fat finger to the ones who wish to judge it for all the wrong reasons.
Yes, it is not to be viewed as a film. 2.0 is a roller coaster ride right from the word go, like one of those 7D adventures you pay for a 15 minute ride. This one just goes on and on, albeit in a great way! A case can be made for the outlandish climax that overstays its welcome, but once you let go of your movie watching inhibitions, even that works wonderfully well for the inner you that enjoys guilty pleasures as much as everyone else.
Forget what the academic critic in you thinks. Forget the bias surrounding the film, or any of its stars. Forget what the paid as well as unpaid reviewers are lamenting about the film, finding faults in the story or character development. Just grab your popcorn and watch it in 3D.
I came out with a huge grin on my face. Shankar has served the dish a tad delayed, but hot and one that you will devour with relish. Watch it only, and only in 3D!
And if you can whistle, all the better.
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November 30, 2018 at 1:58 PM
Nice review.
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November 30, 2018 at 2:06 PM
Thanks
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November 30, 2018 at 9:15 PM
Great read..have got similar feedback from many. I havent seen a movie in theatre since B2..might check this one out though..is it scary for kids?
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November 30, 2018 at 9:44 PM
Krish, nowadays kids are braver and smarter. So kids can safely watch this.
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November 30, 2018 at 10:02 PM
Dunno, but they’ll surely have a blast watching it!
M
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November 30, 2018 at 2:13 PM
Awesome read…
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November 30, 2018 at 2:33 PM
Thanks jayshah. I suggest everyone here to watch it
Its performance till date has been sort of bewildering. Coz according to my personal experience, it deserves a major jump in collections already, and there should be mandatory 3D viewing for this sort of cinema. Every single frame here is meant for such viewing. The purpose will be totally lost if u watch it in any other medium
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November 30, 2018 at 2:42 PM
This is a failure of marketing. Should have been pummelled as 3D only in the main. I will try to watch it.
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November 30, 2018 at 2:05 PM
Nicely said Bob Cristo.
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November 30, 2018 at 3:15 PM
Agreed. Baahubali is not only about breaking records. It struck a chord across the pan-Indian audience in a way no movie has been or will be able to do for many, many years. The 1100cr worth of collections speak for themselves.
It is an all-time classic. Maybe not for a few persons here and there. But when there is such massive appreciation across the whole country, the writing is on the wall.
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November 30, 2018 at 2:35 PM
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November 30, 2018 at 6:33 PM
2.0 Hindi will not be a flop. Cannot say about the rest of the world.
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November 30, 2018 at 3:49 PM
Bachchan Sahab today-
the yardstick for success in the commerce of film is the 100 cr Club .. so until you can qualify for a product that comes in the category of a 100 cr Club, you are not IT .. or not there or not valued enough .. collect 100 cr in the business of the film and you are there ..
and for the past the yardstick was the number of weeks – 25, 50 100 weeks .. and the conclusion that weeks do not compare with 100 cr so you are not its member ..
In conclusion .. if you are not in 100 cr Club you are inferior commercially ..
But this is a yardstick constructed by you for today .. and because weeks do not feature in yardstick you are inferior ..
cool ..
BUT .. dear assessor ..
You cannot do away with the yardstick of the past .. and if you consider the 100 cr as the prime then you must consider the weeks as prime too .. for they reflected the yardstick of commerce .. and if you are going to use the 100 cr measure as the final .. then how many of the present do measure to 25, 50 100 weeks of commerce .. none that one can see even with a binocular .. !!
And may I just state that in the adjusted currency values of time .. the 25, 50 and 100 weeks monetarily in adjusted currency were all above 1000 cr !! .. which none of the present have even been near to ..
So .. FETCH
http://srbachchan.tumblr.com/
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November 30, 2018 at 3:56 PM
Bang on!
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November 30, 2018 at 8:24 PM
Weeks or crores dont necessarily mean good cinema. It is only about popularity.
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November 30, 2018 at 6:58 PM
“You cannot do away with the yardstick of the past”
Absolutely. Those who don’t understand this are not aware of evolving economics. I think many here understand tis fully.
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November 30, 2018 at 6:56 PM
2.0 Box Office Day 2 Early Trends: The Hold Indicates A Massive Weekend!
2.0 starring Rajinikanth and Akshay Kumar, has taken an impressive start at the box office by collecting 20.25 crores.
By Koimoi.com Team -December 1, 2018
2.0 starring Rajinikanth and Akshay Kumar, has taken an impressive start at the box office by collecting 20.25 crores (Hindi dubbed version) on Thursday i.e. opening day. Going by the critics reviews and audience feedbacks, it seems that movie has met the expectations set due to its pre-release buzz.
As per the early trends, the movie has shown a considerable growth on day 2 by collecting in the range of 18-20 crores. The brand power of Rajinikanth, Akshay Kumar and Shankar, attracted the movie maniacs on the first day, but now it’s the real ‘content’ factor, which is taking the game further for this sci-fi entertainer.
https://www.koimoi.com/box-office/2-0-box-office-day-2-early-trends-the-hold-indicates-a-massive-weekend/
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November 30, 2018 at 9:18 PM
I hope this is true..for some reason I want this one to succeed badly..maybe it is due to it being a Tamil movie but I hope it does well
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November 30, 2018 at 10:46 PM
How is 18-20Cr Vs 20.25Cr considerable growth? It’s held well but not shown growth.
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November 30, 2018 at 10:51 PM
https://www.bollymoviereviewz.com/2018/11/2-0-2nd-day-box-office-collections-friday-flat.html
This source has same number. It’s a decent Friday hold and ensures 100Cr but that huge Hindi number of 180Cr+ seems very difficult.
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November 30, 2018 at 11:29 PM
17-18 cr is the likely number given the occupancy fall from yesterday. Hindi will do 110-120 cr total, but it will be difficult to reach its 155-160 cr target needed for distributor recovery. All versions are headed towards Flop verdict UNLESS they all can sustain from monday onward.
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November 30, 2018 at 11:31 PM
Ya was skimming through some data..looks like it recovered ground after evening shows yesterday..morning was looking like 15 cr. That programming issue of 60-40 3D to 2 D split is still hitting it hard in plexes
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November 30, 2018 at 11:33 PM
Need a big jump all over today and tomorrow in hindi
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November 30, 2018 at 11:37 PM
I am confident of jump today. 2.0 Hindi was chasing 100 cr weekend which now looks difficult. More around 85 Cr nett if it trends as follows –
day 1- 20.25
day 2 – 18
day 3 – 22-25
day 4 – 25-28
Total 85-90 Cr nett.
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November 30, 2018 at 10:31 PM
i want to repeat one point…..big stars can give certain initials…but for EPIC BO stuff….any movie will need a solid love-story as the soul….again i repeat….Titanic…MEA….BB/BB2….u name it – without a strong conflicting love-story at the center…..even mighty aamir or rajni will fail….
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November 30, 2018 at 11:20 PM
I think Dangal was All about father/daughters relatonship.
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November 30, 2018 at 11:30 PM
Yes true by and large..but we do have exception like Dangal as Sidduqui said. There are others like my 2 favourites- Anand and Masoom.
This year’s good movies – Padman, Andhadhun, Stree, Raazi, Raid, Badhaai ho, etc…did not run on lead actor’s love story.
There has to be one emotional connect…either relationship based or in case of 2.0…visual connect.
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November 30, 2018 at 11:32 PM
For EPIC Boxoffice…a good love story is needed. It connects surprisingly well.
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December 1, 2018 at 3:37 AM
Bogus love stories are a bane on the viewer & its just in India that obsession with love stories equals bif box office results. Barring Titanic, none of the major Hollywood grossers right from the times of Godfather to Jurassic Park to Avatar to Dark Knight to MCU have a love story at its theme. Even Sholay & BB did not hv a love story as its central theme. Such a pointless statement of overt romanticism usually comes from Srk fans grown up on mindless garbage like DDLJ, KKHH, DTPH etc etc etc.
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November 30, 2018 at 10:51 PM
https://www.hindustantimes.com/bollywood/shah-rukh-khan-holding-sword-not-kirpan-in-zero-poster-makers-tell-bombay-high-court/story-BvN3usJTqykslKSD7DwbVL.html
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November 30, 2018 at 11:26 PM
Axesome !!!
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November 30, 2018 at 11:55 PM
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November 30, 2018 at 11:59 PM
https://www.dnaindia.com/bollywood/photo-gallery-scoops-aamir-khan-takes-a-break-post-thugs-of-hindostan-failure-sanjay-dutt-goes-bald-for-panipat-and-more-2691001
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December 1, 2018 at 12:00 AM
Was about to post this. Looks like he is off for his planned 7-weeks Ideation phase for MB series.
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December 1, 2018 at 12:04 AM
He will be there even when China’s release of toh happens. Or may just return.
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December 1, 2018 at 12:08 AM
He may take a break. It seems China release date is yet not finalized.
Btw, is this releasing in hindi dubbed version? The posters till now have been v interesting.
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December 1, 2018 at 12:11 AM
I dont think so. Who will be interested in the hindi belt?
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December 1, 2018 at 12:11 AM
Dont think so
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December 1, 2018 at 12:12 AM
Glad to see 102 NO doing relatively much better than Crazy rich Asians in China.
http://english.entgroup.cn/boxoffice/cn/daily/?date=12%20/01%20/2018
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December 1, 2018 at 12:25 AM
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2018/04/24/autossell/hwbush-1/hwbush-1-jumbo.jpg?quality=90&auto=webp
By Adam Nagourney
Nov. 30, 2018
NYT
George Bush, the 41st president of the United States and the father of the 43rd, who steered the nation through a tumultuous period in world affairs but was denied a second term after support for his presidency collapsed under the weight of an economic downturn and his seeming inattention to domestic affairs, died on Friday. He was 94.
His death, which was announced by his office, came less than eight months after that of his wife of 73 years, Barbara Bush.
Mr. Bush had a form of Parkinson’s disease that forced him to use a wheelchair or motorized scooter in recent years, and he had been in and out of hospitals during that time as his health declined. In April, a day after attending Mrs. Bush’s funeral, he was treated for an infection that had spread to his blood. In 2013, he was in dire enough shape with bronchitis that former President George W. Bush, his son, solicited ideas for a eulogy.
But he proved resilient each time. In 2013 he told well-wishers, through an aide, to “put the harps back in the closet.”
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December 1, 2018 at 12:28 AM
For BO success u need love story ? Sorry not true. Sholay.. Mother India..Border..Most of Amitabh’s monster hits. AAA, Don etc. Even Karan-Arjun, Ghayal, PK, Dangal, Sanju, Ek tha Tiger, Bajrangi-bhaijan.The list is endless.
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December 1, 2018 at 2:09 AM
Sholay had two love stories…..Border had that husband-wife connect stronger (Sandeshe aate he….) – PK, Sanju all had conflicting love-angles….when I say love stories, let me add – it can extend that love for / of parents (dangal)….the other names u mentioned are very few exceptions may be….but if u take BB/BB2 case study – the beautifully shot and directed love-angle is what remained with me and not those war-scenes….ditto for Titanic, MEA etc…..
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December 1, 2018 at 3:40 AM
Lol. Spoken like a true fangirl. The likes of Sholay & Dangal hv a relationship conflict as a side track & not the central theme. Anyhow, you’re most welcome to carry on with your mushy romanticism.
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December 1, 2018 at 3:51 AM
Sorry, not Dangal. I meant Sholay & PK. Dangal is very much a relationship sports drama albeit a mature relationship drama and not some candy floss junk that most Bollywood viewers have grown up to be fond up since the disgraceful 90’s of HAHK, DDLJ and RH.
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December 1, 2018 at 1:46 AM
i love how shyamalan connected the Unbreakable plot in the final scene of Split
This should be something!
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December 1, 2018 at 1:54 AM
2.0 (Hindi) Does Well On Day Two
Saturday 01 December 2012 12.00 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
2.0 (Hindi) had a good second day as it grossed around 18 crore nett on day two. There is a drop in collections but it is limited drop and with a dubbed film the fear as always a big second day drop. These is a normal trend for 2.0 an outright Hindi film and its very good for a dubbed Hindi film. The two day business is 38 crore nett which is good. .
The film is performing well in Delhi / UP, East Punjab, Bihar and Central India and most of these places are where dubbed South Indian films struggle especially the North. The collections are above averahe in places like Mumbai and West Bengal while it has mainly seen a release in Marathawada which for our markets comes in the South while elsewhere its a minimal Hindi release in South. Basically what we could call the Akshay Kumar markets for this film have done well and actually thats not just the case for the Hindi version but for the film as a whole. Even if we look at all India then the out performance for this is film is Delhi / UP, East Punjab, Rajasthan, CP Berar, CI and Bihar.
The first two two day collections of 2.0 (Hindi are as follows
Thursday – 20,00,00,000 apprx
Friday – 18,00,00,000 apprx
TOTAL – 38,00,00,000 apprx
The film needs to be stable again on Saturday and have a push on Sunday and that should see the film come out with a good weeeknd and a chance for a good run over the next 2-3 weeks. The figures for the all India version will be given later but the Hindi version of the film has done best and looks to be the one should also do best in the long run.
In Overseas the Hindi version has not performed at all due to the complete lack of awareness that this film is also in Hindi.
The non holiday Thursday release is also not a great idea for the Hindi markets but it has still put in a good base and now it remains to be seen where the film goes from here and a good hold on Friday especially in mass markets will be a good sign.
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December 1, 2018 at 2:11 AM
it may close in Hindi around 70 cr? lifetime….
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December 1, 2018 at 2:18 AM
70 cr will come from hindi version by the end of this weekend, i m expecting 75-80 cr in first 4 days. But going by how akshay films trend, the end total may fold up around 125 cr range.
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December 1, 2018 at 2:58 AM
Except for the odd Gold, Akshay Kumar’s movies usually trend very well. They usually do 10 x opening day. Films like Airlift, Jolly LLB 2, Rustom, Toilet etc. did that.
However, 2.0 is not the typical Akshay Kumar kind of deal. It is more expensive but seems also more front loaded. Let’s see how it trends.
It has picked up and started quite well on Saturday morning from reports. So, the chance of a good extended week end is still very much there.
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December 1, 2018 at 2:35 AM
The way 2nd day held on with a minimal drop of 10%, is a good sign for this film. It shows public are willing to spend to watch the spectacle. I guess it will collect 90-100 in 4 day weekend and may double its lifetime to 180-200, unless it crashes from Minday. If it makes 200+ then it is commendable for a dubbed film.
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December 1, 2018 at 3:23 AM
Good hold. It’s revving up today according to addatoday so a 25+ today is possible. Signs are good.
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December 1, 2018 at 3:53 AM
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December 1, 2018 at 3:28 AM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-46410225
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December 1, 2018 at 3:34 AM
George Bush Senior dies…
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December 1, 2018 at 3:28 AM
Movies are earning much more in China than in any traditional OS market since Dangal.So BOI’s non sense has been proved wrong.Hitchki has done around 22M$ while no Indian movie has done so much in any traditional OS territory leave alone the fact no female oriented movie can even dream of this total in whole traditional overseas.Dangal,SS,Bajrangi and HM has done even more than Hitchki in China.No Akki movie has ever crossed even 8M$ in combined OS while Toilet has done around 14M$.Even the lowest grosser since then Sultan has done 5M$ which is good enough for any single large OS market.Also anyone can see China doesnt behave propotionately as traditional OS.Sultan did well enough in traditional but scenario was not like that in China and vice versa for HM and Hitchki.
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December 1, 2018 at 3:52 AM
On its first day, 2.0, starring Rajinikanth and Akshay Kumar, garnered a revenue of ₹80 crore across India.
This is the second highest for an Indian film after Baahubali 2: The Conclusion (2017), which made over ₹150 crore.
But at home in Chennai, the movie managed to collect only ₹2.42 crore. Overall, in Tamil Nadu, the movie collected ₹18 crore.
The Vijay-starrer Sarkar — which released during the first week of November 2018 — broke records by grossing over ₹30 crore on day one in Tamil Nadu.
In its Hindi version, 2.0 made over ₹20 crore.
He said, “The biggest challenge is that everyone wants to watch the film in the 3D version. If you go to tier 2 and tier 3 towns, not all theatres are equipped with 3D technology.”
Another trade source pointed out that Tamil Nadu was not a market for expensive films like 2.0.
‘Math does not work’
He further said, “The movie is mind-blowing, but in Tamil Nadu, with the government capping ticket prices, we can’t have an expensive movie.”
“The math does not work well,” he added.
Theatre owners across the State said that it’s housefull for them for the next four days.
In 2010, 2.0’s prequel Enthiran — which was produced by media baron Kalanithi Maran — garnered good response at the box office.
According to the 2011 annual report of Sun TV Network, the company released the movie simultaneously in three languages titled Enthiran in Tamil and Robot in Telugu and Hindi.
The company earned revenues of ₹179 crore, including ₹8 crore towards satellite rights.
The company had spent ₹132 crore on the production of the blockbuster.
https://www.thehindu.com/entertainment/movies/first-day-big-show-20-opens-with-a-bang/article25638182.ece
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December 1, 2018 at 4:05 AM
https://scroll.in/pulse/903975/the-hiv-prevention-pill-is-not-only-great-at-blocking-the-virus-it-has-other-good-health-effects
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December 1, 2018 at 4:33 AM
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December 1, 2018 at 4:35 AM
The entry of 3.0 was really stunning…it was looking like Akshay will wipe us all when the life saver comes.
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December 1, 2018 at 4:36 AM
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December 1, 2018 at 4:39 AM
Good news is that the high end multiplexes has opened really well on Saturday. Those had under performed a bit on working days. 3D shows are doing extraordinary business and chances are that all 3D shows in India will be booked for 2point0 till Dec 2018.
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December 1, 2018 at 4:41 AM
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December 1, 2018 at 4:39 AM
https://www.filmcompanion.in/2.0-moral-universe-thugs-of-hindustan-shankar-aamir-khan-rajinikanth/
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December 1, 2018 at 4:45 AM
Rangan a WWF fan? I had mentioned Bollywood could learn a lot from that company 😀
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December 1, 2018 at 5:03 AM
Btw any WWF type staging of a fight is very good IMO!
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December 1, 2018 at 5:06 AM
I have left a response.
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December 1, 2018 at 5:11 AM
Where? Link?
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December 1, 2018 at 5:14 AM
At Rangan’s blog whch will be published shortl In the form of a short comment. I am a regular commentator at that blog too.
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December 1, 2018 at 5:15 AM
which will be published shortly.
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December 1, 2018 at 5:17 AM
Its published as the first comment. Check it.
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December 1, 2018 at 4:51 AM
Ragan has suggested a slightly different end to what 2.0 had and i agree with him.
Rangan is also contesting that a good masala movie is always between good and evil . Whereas in 2point0 it appears to be good Vs “good, but not for us” is also correct, which limits the possibilities in terms of box office.
But like Rangano i cannot deny that this is a brilliant twist by Shankar and makes it a classic. The thought lingers with you even after you come out of theatre and this I believe is the sign of success.
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December 1, 2018 at 4:54 AM
There is a lot of positivity that 2point0 is carrying. Whether one is liking the movie or not, whether one is a fan of Rajni/Akshay or not…the effort that has gone is showing on screen and the experience is mind blowing in 3D.
Anyone who has seen this is wanting the movie to succeed. Few even saying that such landmark movie is already a success and need not be m with boxeasured office.
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December 1, 2018 at 4:55 AM
*need not be measured with box office”
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December 1, 2018 at 4:59 AM
Rangan – “A lot of people have told me exactly that. (It’s some version of “I know the film has many problems but it’s a hell of a ride and I loved it.”)”
I am finding similar responses too.
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December 1, 2018 at 5:06 AM
The movie no doubt has good feedback..but cost might be too high for it to make up..you can see in BR blog and responses are very positive..but it bloody needs 375cr worldwide distributor share..that’s very hard..meanwhile it is no 1 in Australian BO as well as Malaysian BO today..crossed 1mn in UAE and had a better Friday than Thursday in USA..
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December 1, 2018 at 5:15 AM
Akshay Kumar in India Today interview was asked this question (before the release –
“How do you think the cost will be recovered..as even a superhit opening will not be enough and an all time blockbuster opening is needed?”
Akshay – “I spoke to the producers today and they are happy now. They have done the math with the distributors. So recovery will not be a problem.”
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December 1, 2018 at 5:16 AM
It’s a double whammy. Any project management team will tell you a delay is awful. Here even worse it hurts the anticipation (potential revenue), then costs get hammered. Economically this film has been doomed theatrically but personally I don’t benchmark success like this. If it trends well it’s done what it could do best given the cards dealt. The rest someone should be getting fired for the delays and poor distribution.
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December 1, 2018 at 5:41 AM
To be clearer this kind of film could flop theatrically but still be a very phenomenal landmark film.
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December 1, 2018 at 5:53 PM
About the budget/costs:
I think Shankar can’t be blamed for the delay promised by original VFX company. The original VFX company couldn’t complete it as it was complex work for them and then Shankar had to find another big company. The first company still took the money as they worked on the project for a year. Now he was pressed for time, Shankar had to pay 2nd time for VFX company plus additional as he needed it in shorter timeframe. They also spent lot of money in transferring all the data from previous company to new company to continue the work. These are all big US VFX companies and I think 100 crores or more was just wasted on this wrong decision which added to the cost and which is not seen on the big screen. Its bad luck for Shankar but there’s nothing he could have done to avoid this additional expense. If this movie was made around 300-350 crores of original budget, it would have recovered money somehow. But now over 500 crores is difficult unless you make an absolute masterpiece with tremendous repeat value like Avatar.
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December 1, 2018 at 5:11 AM
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December 1, 2018 at 5:16 AM
Solid jump in collections today , looks like WOM is kicking in . I’m pretty confident this will remain quite stable during the weekdays .. on course to become Akshay’s biggest grosser till date . Shankar had a much more tougher task at hand but he has succeeded where Victor failed miserably .
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December 1, 2018 at 5:21 AM
It needs more than one good week for that. But this movie might hang around more than a normal film due to 3D factor. Fingers crossed for Naveen aka Akshay.
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December 1, 2018 at 5:34 AM
Thanks Jayshah. 😀
Now, I am always prepared for the worst. During Naachgaana days i was younger, got excited with Chandni chowk to China and thought it would be best cross over film from India to China. (How naive of me)
The hype got me in. Then the movie opened in UAE on thursdays and WoM started trickling in. I couldn’t believe it then. I saw the movie and at that time i thought it was alright. Akki was good, Deepika was good…songs were hit..so why so much negativity?
Looking back now i realise the game industry was playing then. Foreign Studios were throwing money and industry was making trash with the easy money.
Now again i realise that makers are pumping in insane money because of Baahubali 2. I see Brahmastra, etc which makes me worry again because South India has now entered north india in a big way now. Audience is not ready for anything which would be only air. No CCTC types movies please. 🙂
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December 1, 2018 at 6:54 AM
i really hope this works for shankar’s sake. he has definitely put in a lot of hard work for 2.0.
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December 1, 2018 at 7:08 AM
2.0 set to emerge a HIT
2.0 (Hindi) is looking to emerge a HIT film as the film has been accepted in most of the Hindi markets. Its difficult to put a number on the third day number yet as some places are going up very strongly while other are stable.
But North India which is traditionally weakest with dubbed films is showing super strength on day three with Delhi / UP heading for 6 crore nett and East Punjab going to 2.50 crore nett. This is the third day and these numbers are excellent in these markets for a film of this sort and that is allowing for the presence of Akshay Kumar.
As these markets are so strong for a dubbed Rajnikant starrer it is only a matter of time when the rest of Hindi markets also play catch up. There is sure to be a healthy jump on day three and the Hindi version is set to be a HIT film at the very least.
boxofficeindia
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December 1, 2018 at 7:14 AM
https://boxofficeindia.com/report-details.php?articleid=4479
I suspect BOI is jumping the gun here unless they are seeing the kind of growth which puts Saturday closer to 30crs…
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December 1, 2018 at 7:57 AM
Remarkable growth can propell this to well above 150Cr. All sounds promising all of a sudden.
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December 1, 2018 at 8:07 AM
Yeah if on higher scale it goes to 28 today and 235 tomorrow then it is bound to be stable over weekday..such a growth on 3rd and 4th day means weekday will be stable and even I’m double digits..I think though this might be closer to 25 today and 30 tomorrow which is not so bad considering the tepid start and gives it a shot for 150cr..150 cr is recovery point hit will be around 175cr
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December 1, 2018 at 7:51 AM
American singer Nick Jonas and Bollywood actress Priyanka Chopra are now officially man and wife. The power couple tied the knot during a Western wedding at Jodhpur’s Umaid Bhawan Palace, reports PEOPLE.
The nuptials come just three months after the pair was engaged in August in a traditional Indian roka ceremony. On Sunday, the two will exchange vows in a traditional Hindu wedding ceremony to honour Priyanka’s background. Designer Ralph Lauren took to Twitter to congratulate the couple on their wedding and said that he was honored to have dressed Priyanka and Nick for their D-Day.
The pre-wedding festivities for the couple, who has been on a celebration spree ever since they kicked off their respective bachelorettes, began on Friday with a Sangeet ceremony. Their friends and family turned out in fabulous style for the function held at the Umaid Bhawan palace.
https://www.news18.com/news/movies/priyanka-chopra-nick-jonas-wedding-live-updates-couple-friends-family-have-a-blast-at-the-sangeet-1956637.html
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December 1, 2018 at 8:18 AM
All said and done, I believe 2018 has been one of the best recent years for the Hindi film industry. have seen plenty of successes as well as good cinema.
We’ve had stuff like Andhadhun, Tummbad, October, Badhai Ho, Manto, Stree, Raazi, Mulk, Sanju, Mukkabaaz, Manmarziyan, Parmanu, Bhavesh Joshi, Padmaavat, 2.0 (hindi version), Bioscopewala, Pataakha, Pari, Padman and Karwaan, and there is another month to go where a couple of films may throw a surprise.
The hit count is just going up. but if I had to take a name, I’d say it belongs to Ayushman, with two neat successes that also happen to be pretty good films.
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December 1, 2018 at 8:23 AM
Ayushman has taken the year closely followed by John Abraham, there is a sentence I’d never thought I’d say!
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December 1, 2018 at 9:41 AM
If Simbba grosses huge, this may also be Ranveer Singh’s year, having already delivered with Padmaavat. Ranbir also scored big with Sanju.
There is also Zero coming up. But yes, Ayushman and JA have been the dark horses till here.
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December 1, 2018 at 2:20 PM
I was low key John Abraham fan copied his hairstyle his long hair lol when I was 17 lol all the girls that I knew were going crazy For him when he came I’m happy for him he seems like a down to earth guy. When he came to that concert with Salman my cousin in the Bay Area was assign to be with him take him out, they even went clubbing, my cousin said he was really great guy didn’t even act like a star, my cousin even made him call our house to talk to my siblings as l they were fans lol.
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December 1, 2018 at 8:26 AM
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If a book is known by its cover, and a film by its trailer, let it be ANNOUNCED LOUDLY & CLEARLY that RohitShetty’s SIMMBA will be a BLOCKBUSTER. The trailer has it all — comedy, high-pitch drama, romance, song, dance, action, emotions. Subject will appeal to the public and how!
If this is true , Zero might be in trouble !
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December 1, 2018 at 8:39 AM
I have doubts about Simbba.
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December 1, 2018 at 9:26 AM
Simba looks like a potential big hit. Except if Rohit Shetty messes it up like with Dilwale, this can really turn out to be huge at the BO.
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December 1, 2018 at 8:57 PM
Not sure if Simmba will do 150 cr or 200 cr. But quite confident that its collections will be more than that of 2.0 hindi and zero. And no, I am far from a Ranveer fan.
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December 1, 2018 at 8:27 AM
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December 1, 2018 at 8:49 AM
This is so cool. Very happy for Vishal B!
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December 1, 2018 at 8:24 PM
This was brewing for a while, good to see the announcement.
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December 1, 2018 at 8:39 AM
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December 1, 2018 at 9:00 AM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Bollywood_films_of_2018
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December 1, 2018 at 11:04 AM
https://www.addatoday.com/2018/12/20-hindi-3rd-day-saturday-collection.html?m=1
Big growth here, 25Cr+ today estimated.
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December 1, 2018 at 11:07 AM
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December 1, 2018 at 11:17 AM
Apart from Hindi version it is a goner everywhere else.In Tamil it’s a disaster.
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December 1, 2018 at 8:31 PM
There are just too many numbers out there for 2.0 box office. For first day itself i heard numbers ranging from 60 cr to 70 cr. The next day numbers are in 45-50 cr range (that is a collapse). Early numbers for day 3 all-india total seem to be less than day 2! This despite hindi having done 23-24 cr yesterday (an uptick from friday). IF true, then non-hindi versions have already collapsed and hindi may do so on monday.
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December 1, 2018 at 8:34 PM
I am making some notes. I will give my full comment after next tuesday when the picture will be less hazy.
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December 1, 2018 at 8:48 PM
Will look fwd to it.
No user reviews yet have given me the motivation to venture into theaters today. And the few hindi shows in the mall near me have weird timings. I dont mind watching telegu/tamil versions, but usually need a bit of help from subtitles (although Rajni films never need subtitles – the OTT expressions say everything!).
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December 1, 2018 at 8:52 PM
Except vfx there is nothing to look forward to. Only die hard fans are rooting for it. You can skip this film and save headache.
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December 1, 2018 at 9:12 PM
I know, will wait for Avengers or Alita for such popcorn entertainment.
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December 1, 2018 at 11:22 AM
Saturday
http://english.entgroup.cn/boxoffice/cn/daily/
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December 1, 2018 at 8:38 PM
revised numbers
http://english.entgroup.cn/boxoffice/cn/daily/
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December 1, 2018 at 8:50 PM
Sunday is usually lower than Sat in that market. So 3-3.5m is likely over the weekend. Gavin predicted a similar number too.
10m cume will make it another small success in China after Hichki.
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December 1, 2018 at 8:54 PM
Very small success. But ok. With no females in a big way, this film will not get much attention.
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December 1, 2018 at 11:43 AM
The top female stars are married and settling. Kareena already has a child. Deepika and Priyanka just married. Alia is in a relationship. There is nothing like old fashioned marriage for many. There are exceptions like Sushmita Sen, Kangana who show that marriage is not that important. Each to her own. Aishwarya led the way and she is a happy mother. Sushmita became a mother by adopting two girls. Kangana is happy with her sister’s child. And not to forget Anushka and her not so long ago marriage.
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December 1, 2018 at 3:33 PM
Always thought Avenger 2 was my most awaited movie of 2019 until I watched this! For every kid of the 80’s and early 90’s, The Lion King is an unforgettable fond memory and for some like me, it even overpowers the likes of Aladdin, Jungle Book and Tales Spin. Cannot wait for July 2019 and nor do I care for the Avengers anymore.
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December 1, 2018 at 5:36 PM
Saw 2.0 last night. The movie is a worthy sequel to the original Robot. This time around the story is not a wholesome package(romance, twists and songs) like last time but it’s actually true to the genre of good vs evil without songs and true blue action spectacle. I think Shankar had an idea to make a movie on Akshay’s birdman character from long and then used that idea and put it in the Robot world. So Akshay’s character is usual Shankar’s hero but in this movie he’s the negative hero. Still it is very good to watch a negative character with strong positive message. The story idea is very good. First half is usual killings but all the murders has extraordinary VFX sequences and Akshay’s intro is one of the best for any actor and he looks great! The second half is the roller coaster fight till the end. I would have like the movie to be extra 10 mins and flesh out the details better. I felt they compromised screenplay to not make it long as already there are no songs in the movie and audience will get bored. Right now no one will get bored but you feel underwhelmed at places which are regular Shankar scenes from earlier movies. Shankar doing story, screenplay, directions and design VFX sequences and choreograph the fights and everything is too much effort for single person and he needs another point of view somewhere if he’s going wrong. Still to pull this off single handedly is nothing short of miracle.
Performances are great – Akshay has really acted well for the given role and left an indelible mark in a Rajnikanth movie which is a huge deal whereas Rajnikanth has really enjoyed the movie and his real acting or enjoyment is done by Chitti 2.0 and 3.0 versions and not the Scientist or Chitti. Amy looked great for the robot Nila and suited perfectly. The movie will be remember for Shankar’s wild imagination and creative VFX ideas (even he VFX sequences and action choreography is conceived by Shankar). The whole sequences of fights and action is something not seen on Indian screen and at many places it appears one is watching a Hollywood action blockbuster but the content and style and soul is completely Indian.
The movie would have been a classic if some more effort was done on the screenplay. Danny’s son character is very stupid and he just lands and let go Akshay’s soul from the secure facility in like 2 seconds. Similarly I didn’t like the idea about overlong climax and make it funny in last few mins you get 3.0 and its entertaining to watch but I would have preferred more emotional ending with Akshay dying a heroic death. Instead he’s killed as normal villain and then Rajni gets his dying dialogues. I doubt if it was any other hero, Akshay would have got a heroic death but you can’t expect others overshadowing Rajnikanth in his own movie. Finally, promoting the only song with budget 20 crores and using it after the movie with the credits is really stupid decision.
Overall, these are minor issues in a huge successful effort. Just the VFX and whole action sequences with still strong good and strong evil characters are more than enough reasons to like the movie and turn it into a blockbuster. If the audience don’t turn this into a blockbuster, no other director will try such a huge movie again.
Recommended and only in 3D!!
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December 1, 2018 at 9:47 PM
I want to add 1 point which book one has mentioned. All the important scenes by Akshay Kumar mouthing dialogues have been shot in Hindi as well
simultaneously when shooting in Tamil. That early helped immensely to connect Akshay’s character in Hindi. So even though its dubbed movie, Akshay’s role makes it bilingual movie and not purely dubbed. Lot of other characters like Adil Hussain, Sudhanshu Pandey etc also spoke Hindi lines. Rest of it is anyways action. So, I won’t treat this as dubbed like Baahubali but more of bilingual movie.
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December 1, 2018 at 11:20 PM
Even I noticed that. Adil’s dialogues were also spoken in hindi but not Rajnisir’s. I think all close up shots had dialogues (of people who know the language) in hindi. So it doesn’t feel like we are watching a dubbed movie. Both Tumbbad and 2.0 took many years of effort and thankfully it shows on the screen. Though in case of Tumbbad, the director was rookie.
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December 1, 2018 at 6:06 PM
Just watched 2.0. It is very much like marvel comic. Iron man-Bird man. I had no issues with anything including story. Akshay took lot of risk here as he is really old balding man before becoming birdman later on. I am sure Shankar approached other biggies in hindi belt before going to Akshay because this mega budget movie needed one big star from south and one big one from north to recover cost and be profitable. The theater had barely 15 people and was showing only 3D shows and even Badhai Ho on third week was more full than this, 1st saturday show of 2.0, which is sad because it is worth watching it. Just the opening scenes are entertaining and there is lot of male-female stuff between the robots and their banter is entertaining. Everyone stayed till the end credit song was over. Rajni has aged well and looks good. Akshay is benign villain and my sympathies were with the birdman! So it is not really good vs evil in classic sense and in my opinion.
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December 1, 2018 at 11:44 PM
Agree with everything Swati.
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December 1, 2018 at 6:29 PM
2.0 (Hindi) Is Very Good On Saturday
Sunday 02 December 2018 00.30 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
2.0 (Hindi) has come into its own on Saturday with very good business on Saturday after two good days. The early estimates for the third day are 24-25 crore nett as the film looks at 35-40% jump in collections. The three day weekend is a solid 62-63 crore nett with Sunday still to come.
The film is a non holiday Thursday release and a south dubbed film and top it has lost around 10-12% business in its Hindi version due to a minimal Hindi release in the South which actually makes this 60 crore nett number much better than it actually looks.
More importantly the film has started to score across Hindi markets. Delhi / UP and East Punjab lead and it is a sure shot HIT in these two markets already and no dubbed South Indian dubbed film has ever worked her barring the Bahubali films. On Saturday Gujarat has picked up hugely and it should show another big jump on Sunday.
Sunday should also see West Bengal do a big number which will mean it has been accepted across all Hindi film circuits. A big all India number on Sunday will be confirmation of the families across Hindi markets taking to the film. The film is showing strong business in Karnataka also on Saturday though there is a minimal Hindi release in that market.
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December 1, 2018 at 6:54 PM
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/hindi/bollywood/news/tamilrockers-2018-website-2-0-pirated-prints-available-for-full-movie-hd-dowload-online-free-on-tamilrockers-website-despite-precautionary-measures-by-films-production-house/articleshow/66867939.cms
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December 1, 2018 at 7:02 PM
But the surprises don’t stop here. Enter the 3.0 version of Chitti. These tiny Thalaivar microbots are winning hearts all over. It is as though all of Rajinikanth’s swagger has been packaged into this small adorable red robot. Do you go ‘awww’ or whistle at its antics? Simple, you do both. This is one of Shankar’s best ideas in terms of marketability because this character is sure to be a hit with children. 3.0 saves the day in the film, by riding pigeons and taunting Birdman by gesturing that the microbots are going to kill the birds. You may argue that this is not in good taste but you can’t deny that it is fun.
Shankar has gone on record to say that he is willing to start a robot franchise and would love to direct a 2.0 sequel. He has set the stage with the introduction of 3.0. Whether the sequel takes off or not, it is certain that 3.0 is here to stay.
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December 1, 2018 at 7:05 PM
https://indianexpress.com/article/entertainment/tamil/3-0-2point0-rajinikanth-5474093/
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December 1, 2018 at 11:15 PM
That is the twist. The good (Chitti and the bots) is not pure good and evil (birdman) is not pure evil. That part I didn’t expect and was different experience altogether and made it interesting. Is radiation from cell towers causing huge havoc on birds? Is that proven? I honestly didn’t know about it. They could have taken up a cause that is more well known like air pollution or ozone layer, global warming, tsunami. It seemed to me that they started writing the story backwards. Created birdman first and then tried to justify it with a reason. I could be wrong.
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December 2, 2018 at 12:59 AM
The theme is good and noble. They should have shown the bird winning. And the pigeons thing has raised some criticism.
It looks like environmentalists versus the establishment.
I am living in a place where I hear birds more than human beings.
Such a peaceful place. All sorts of birds sit on my windowsill and I am careful not to frighten them with sudden movements.
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December 1, 2018 at 9:03 PM
Posting Sanjana’s comment from Rangan-Multiverse for our resident trolls:
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“A very good re analysis by you. Our sympathies are with the birds. But everything will be destroyed for one reason or another in due course. Today it is birds and forests. Tomorrow it maybe directed against less fortunate human beings and weeding them out as advocated by one celebrated novelist and by one Hitler by using more brutal methods.
Aamir’s Fanaa worked though he played an unrepentent terrorist.
Toh was sabotaged to some extent by twitter trolls. Indian audience who regularly patronise bad films by superstars and smaller stars cannot suddenly wake up and find things terribly wrong with Toh.”
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December 1, 2018 at 9:05 PM
This is in response to Rangan’s re-analysis of ToH (something I have been saying ever since i saw the film and noticed Jay’s and Saket’s reaction) …
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The masala genre (I use the term “genre” loosely) is one of the most MORAL of genres, like the Western. The lines between Good and Bad are clearly drawn. When Thugs of Hindostan came out, this was the problem. I wrote: The only way this story would have worked is if we were constantly kept on edge about whether Firangi Mallah is a rogue or a nice guy — and with a superstar like Aamir Khan, it’s never in doubt that he will feel a twinge of conscience and rise against the British. But it’s more than that It’s more than just the fact that our big heroes almost never play morally complicated characters in big movies (as opposed to, say, an indie-ish film like 1947: Earth). It’s also that the masala universe cannot (and will not) accommodate such a character.
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December 1, 2018 at 9:10 PM
Rangan is a masala guy (a highbrow one of course), and his lament explains the varying levels of under-performance of ToH and 2.0 … Masala fans dont fancy ‘moral confusion’ in their lala-land.
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Is any of this “wrong”? No. It’s brilliant, actually. Shankar’s films – for me – work better when I think back on them than when I am actually watching them. He’s one of our best ideas men, someone who upends conventional morality by giving his “hero” a mechanical birth and his “villain” a mythical birth. (The latter is literally “birthed” by a bird.) But all this needs layered writing, where we see and sense all these facets as opposed to simply settling down for a “WWF movie”. With such amazing visuals, some of you may not mind doing that. A lot of people have told me exactly that. (It’s some version of “I know the film has many problems but it’s a hell of a ride and I loved it.”) But this is an if-only lament from someone who worships masala movies and their ethos. These brilliant subversions need writing that’s just as brilliant. Otherwise, we’re just watching a sound-and-light show, not that there’s anything wrong with that…
https://www.filmcompanion.in/2.0-moral-universe-thugs-of-hindustan-shankar-aamir-khan-rajinikanth/
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December 1, 2018 at 9:16 PM
I witnessed Naveen completely unbalanced after watching 2.0, and it kind of explains the severe backlash of ToH (ignoring the contributions from trolls).
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December 1, 2018 at 10:04 PM
Get him out of your system. Unless you like him like a brother and cant help naming him.
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December 1, 2018 at 10:06 PM
I have a thing for anomalies …
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December 1, 2018 at 11:40 PM
I am fine with you as long as you are civil.
You cross the line and you will be paid back in same currency.
I am continuously watching you.
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December 1, 2018 at 11:46 PM
Civility in a world of moronic commentary is a travesty. Now go figure …
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December 2, 2018 at 12:55 AM
Please, please, please.
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December 2, 2018 at 1:03 AM
Stop, stop, stop.
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December 2, 2018 at 6:32 AM
“Indian audience who regularly patronise bad films by superstars and smaller stars cannot suddenly wake up and find things terribly wrong with Toh.” Just perfect, Marcus!
That’s what I think all the time. They complain to Aamir himself about the content he regularly delivered more than any other – while a year earlier they voted out a content-driven film like SS over a brainless entertainer! Double morality at its finest!
We now see in non-Desi areas what the truth is. TOH is not Aamir’s best, without question, but EVERYONE at the cinema in Berlin enjoyed this movie! And now it happen also in Turkey.
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December 1, 2018 at 9:51 PM
Christmas tracking has started – 100m for aquaman, 70m for Mary Poppins and 40m for Bumblebee over 5 day holiday weekend.
https://www.flickeringmyth.com/2018/12/aquaman-tracking-100-million-christmas-opening-ahead-of-mary-poppins-returns-and-bumblebee/
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December 1, 2018 at 9:55 PM
Zero would be hoping for 100 cr nett over that period, by actual collections not fraud numbers reported by red chillies.
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December 1, 2018 at 10:01 PM
😛
https://twitter.com/merengue_y/status/1069042354517041152
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December 1, 2018 at 10:05 PM
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December 1, 2018 at 10:06 PM
Very funny and eye catchy.
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December 1, 2018 at 10:05 PM
Good. Doodh ka doodh paani ka paani hojayega.
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December 1, 2018 at 10:47 PM
TOH seems to have opened in Turkey, Friday November 30 — to fairly encouraging response. Plenty of pro- TOH tweets. A sample:
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December 1, 2018 at 10:49 PM
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December 1, 2018 at 11:02 PM
And this Turksh fan has a lot to say really, through three tweets.
That’s all from me.😊 More out there. There was mention of an 8.5 or 8.6 rating from Turkish fans. Which is too much of course but to fans in India, this sort of praise is balm. TOH was trashed beyond limits, more than it deserved to. And I will be happy to see a correction. If such correction has to come from Turkey and China — and I hope it happens, some acceptance beyond tweets — Aamir fans like self can stop feeling bad about the engineered fiasco called Thugs of Hindostan. Not a great film, but not Mela level disaster. As Aamir rightly said, it entertained a minority. Despite its negative parts.
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December 1, 2018 at 11:05 PM
Thanks LS for posting this. Give me the link in english. I will try to follow it and get updates.
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December 1, 2018 at 11:15 PM
Below each Turkish or any non- English tweet, there is a line link which helps translate.
No Marcus, I won’t post anymore. This was just a sampler and that’s it from me.
MiNKi has written that she wishes to write separately about the flopping of TOH in India. But not on twitter, as she does not wish to get trolled.
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December 1, 2018 at 11:08 PM
Dont post too much of these, else there will be constant nagging to open a new thread for ToH in Turkey …
But good to see the responses.
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December 1, 2018 at 11:10 PM
If it fails, they will not mind even 4 to 5 threads!
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December 2, 2018 at 6:13 AM
Turkey 8,5
https://www.cinemaximum.com.tr/hindistan-eskiyalari-filmi?fbclid=IwAR0gyb_ZMnFAHucHQsHuqC45DNru_WoyBHNaxzPWce4juGYasPtT87RcRlU
Germany 7,8
https://www.cinemaxx.de/film/thugs-of-hindostan
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December 1, 2018 at 11:42 PM
2.0’s Sunday collections are going to surprise those expecting a fall. The movie is now on path to be another HIT for Akshay Kumar.
12th consecutive HIT …a record now?
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December 1, 2018 at 11:43 PM
Apart from Chinese countries Turkey is another real Overseas territory for Aamir having passionate.With real OS I mean overseas country with non-NRI diaspora.Turkey seems to be having a good response.You can see Aamir’s Turkey visit and passion fans have for Aamir there.We wld know weekend on turkey by monday night.SS currently has the weekend,LT record there.
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December 1, 2018 at 11:46 PM
Thailand will also be a good market for Aamir Khan, please check.
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December 2, 2018 at 12:41 AM
Thailand is Akshay’s territory. He worked in Bangkok before joining bollywood.
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December 2, 2018 at 1:59 AM
Haha…
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December 1, 2018 at 11:49 PM
Turkey market size is not significant enough to await collections. But the response from non-NRI diaspora says a lot.
Btw, Bumblebee is likely to open on Jan 4 in China, where Transformers is a big brand. However, both ToH (28 dec) and Bumblebee (jan 4) dates are not confirmed yet.
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December 1, 2018 at 11:54 PM
I meant only for response.I know market is very small.
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December 2, 2018 at 12:00 AM
Ya i got that dude, was clarifying for those who needs explicits.
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December 2, 2018 at 12:52 AM
No Taiwan this time. Hindi films are going straight to China without Taiwan stop. I think some politics is involved.
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December 2, 2018 at 4:34 AM
Taiwan is happening Sanjana for movies just that movies r not earning anything substantial there.Hitchki and even Padman have already released in Taiwan.TEPK is releasing shortly even though u r right in TEPK’s choice.Just that Taiwan release doesnt make a news for non Aamir movies.
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December 1, 2018 at 11:50 PM
This video is trending on twitter since last 24 hours… 😀
Rocky will love it.
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December 2, 2018 at 12:50 AM
sare double standards hai. In diwali it is two hours of pataka in the night vs the year long industrial pollution, year long pollution of vehicles and on and on. But become animal rights lover for Jallikattu, become enviromentalist on diwali and holi. Its a joke! Priya should stick to acting, in movies and in her shaadi.
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December 2, 2018 at 5:43 AM
What a malicious video! Point out the very obvious hypocrisy here but do so without adding an unnecessary religious hatred angle to it. Priyanka had both a Hindu and Christian wedding and the malicious intent behind highlighting the Christian ceremony alone in this video is quite clear. Ironically, she was the only one who got married in a historic Indian setting while devoted nationalists like Virat chose to marry in an Italian chateau (not that there’s anything wrong with that).
Her intention behind doing the firecracker video was to promote a ‘sensitive environmentalist’ image not an anti-Hindu one. Celebrities all over the world are guilty of these double standards and promoting a holier-than-thou image. Whether it’s people like Leo DiCaprio asking people to conserve water at home and then flying private around the world or Megan Markle broadcasting to the media that she asked guests donate to charity on her wedding instead of giving her gifts to show her ‘non-materialistic social activist’ side while spending crores of rupees on her wedding dress alone. It has nothing to do with them hating Hindu festivals which is an absurd conclusion to come to. In many countries you need special police/ local authority permission to burst fireworks and for good reason.
Call Priyanka out on her blatant hypocrisy by all means. But it is hateful and incredibly narrow-minded to make an inter-racial/ religious relationship the subject of your ridicule simply because they dared to have a Christian ceremony as well as a Hindu one. It seems the Twitter bigots consider Hindu women their personal property and froth at the mouth any time a Hindu woman dares to fraternise with a Muslim/ Christian/ Parsi/ Jewish man, whether onscreen or in real life. Such blatant entitlement over woman is sickening and no different from the attitudes displayed in the most extreme Arab countries that prohibit the women from marrying non-Muslim men.
I’m no Priyanka or Nick Jonas fan and I too found the fireworks hypocritical but I also find the reactions to their wedding quite alarming.
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December 2, 2018 at 11:46 AM
This is Vee – I don’t know why I get a new name every time I comment haha.
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December 1, 2018 at 11:52 PM
Moments like these are important for every Indians 😀
https://twitter.com/iamsamkhiladi/status/1068893118152359937
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December 2, 2018 at 12:02 AM
Already there are talks about looses … and its just day 4.
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December 2, 2018 at 2:37 AM
tricky…becoz so much hype about the 3D version that 2D viewers will feel shortchanged….they shd have released it entirely 3D like Chota Chetan or Shiva Ka Insaaf etc….that wud have made things better….
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December 2, 2018 at 12:23 AM
Occupancy report for 2.0 Hindi (Morning show)
Day 1 Thurs- 40%
Day 2 Fri – 30-35%
Day 3 Sat – 50%
Day 4 Sun – 80%
Its a Massive Start on Sunday!🔥🔥🔥 Houseful everywhere.👍👍 Humongous Day on cards!💥💥
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December 2, 2018 at 12:33 AM
Continuing my previous analogy between 2.0 opening and T20 cricket with India batting…After Rohit sharma got out early…Shikhar Dhawan and Kohli has steadied the innings with Shikhar now scoring Half century. Kohli is looking in ominous form and another century for him on the card?
India on track to another win. 😀
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December 2, 2018 at 12:36 AM
link?
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December 2, 2018 at 3:41 AM
Addatoday – they have been pretty close to reported numbers. So Sunday looks 30Cr+ and this looks good to challenge Rowdy Rathore minimally now.
https://www.addatoday.com/2018/12/20-hindi-sunday-4th-day-collection.html?m=1
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December 2, 2018 at 5:00 AM
Likewise
https://www.addatoday.com/2018/12/20-set-box-office-on-fire-on-sunday-4th.html?m=1
Further update, it’s going big on Sunday…
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December 2, 2018 at 12:50 AM
I am really confused between the couples Priyanka Nick and Deepika Ranveer and also add Anushka Virat.
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December 2, 2018 at 12:58 AM
whats confusing. Two of them had OTT italian wedding. Deepveer is so much display of various designer outfits that it looks more like fashion show than a real wedding. Anuska’s was the most authentic and real. Priya’s is just inspired by her clicking biological clock the way Amrita singh wanted quick wedding to have their babies. Ranveer is poor choice for Deepa but then she dated all eligible men out there.
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December 2, 2018 at 1:01 AM
Haha! About Deepika. Before Ranveer also slipped out quietly like Ranveer.
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December 2, 2018 at 1:52 AM
Ranbir. Another confusion between Ranvir and Ranbir.
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December 2, 2018 at 1:29 AM
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December 2, 2018 at 1:40 AM
Will comment once this poster gets a new thread.
But one word – MASSY
My next favourite star after Akshay !!!
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December 2, 2018 at 2:39 AM
RS knows audience’ pulse and he accepted failure of Dilwaale saying that he was overwhelmed with the prospect of exploring SRK-Kajol chemistry and forgot his main strengths….i went to see Golmaal only for Tabu but was happy with the overall show….This man knows entertainment-starved nation’s minds….
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December 2, 2018 at 3:26 AM
They should have released it next year with Lion King! 😉
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December 2, 2018 at 1:37 AM
According to Kadels and Jaiswals of twitter, 2.0 hindi has failed to touch Gold’s day one figure of 25 cr on Sat. And yesterday we heard that Sat was going to be 27 cr from Addatoday. They are now praying for 30 cr on Sunday so that hindi version MAY reach recovery, otherwise it will likely flop.
As for producers, they have gone mum on TN’s saturday number. ABO is talking about losses in Telegu belt.
375 cr ‘share’ needed for recovery … good luck to its supporters.
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December 2, 2018 at 3:48 AM
It is doing alright in Hindi. WOM seems to have come into play. From reports, 30cr looks the bare minimum for today. It may even go much beyond that.
The trend is quite good. There is decent chance for good run in Hindi.
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December 2, 2018 at 6:39 AM
South versions did 40 cr on Thursday, 22 cr on friday and 24 cr on sat. Cant even satisfy core audience, now hoping for 2-3 weeks run in hindi version?
Akshay films dont trend in hindi belts except a rare airlift. Check the numbers before commenting.
2.0 losses will be double of toh or race 3.
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December 2, 2018 at 7:15 AM
Rustom started at 13cr and finished at 130c. Toilet started at 12cr and finished at 125-130cr. Jolly LLB 2 started at 11cr and finished at 110cr.
These films did around 10 times their opening day. This is not tremendous trending in the league of Baahubali 2. Far from that. But by today’s standards, it is solid trending.
Even Padman which did trend more moderately opened at 10cr and finished at around 82cr.
I think if Robot trends like the typical Akshay Kumar films as shown above, it will be a winner in the hindi belt. However, nothing is given. It seems a more front-loaded kind of deal and is a dubbed film which makes it more difficult. But the trend has been alright until here.
I guess since the film is performing decently in the hindl belt, now some will try to knock it though its collections down in the south. That’s like trying to move the goalpost, isn’t it?
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December 2, 2018 at 7:24 AM
It is like secret superstar doing much much better in China than in India. But ultimately India matters for obvious reasons. Same way tamil nadu matters for 2.0 for rajni’s stardom and Shankar’s reputation. Boi is ranting against tamilnadu without knowing the reasons.
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December 2, 2018 at 7:39 AM
It’s not about foreign BO. We are more concerned about Indian BO here. The blog is more about it. We follow Bollywood stars and Indian BO. So, what the film does in the Hindi belt matters. It’s not like Hum Tumhare Hai Sanam opening at at Number 4 in UK makes it more relevant while it under-performs in India.
You can be sure if the films flops, or if the film were collecting only
80-90cr total in hindi, Akshay Kumar would be getting a hiding here. The focus on this blog, the northern BO trade and media have always mostly been how much it does in the hindi belt and how much the hindi version does.
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December 2, 2018 at 7:43 AM
Rahul, you are bang on and bring sense to the overall understanding of 2.0 Hindi.
For all i know, 2.0 Hindi has been sold at 80 Cr..and it needs 160 Cr to break even and that it is going to do that now.
Lyca production made this movie with a vision that is rare. Dharma was very smart and got Hindi rights at realistic price.
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December 2, 2018 at 7:44 AM
My point is north south divide. If it works in the north, it benefits Akki. If it works well in tamilnadu, it will benefit rajni. If something works in China or america, it will benefit the concerned star whether it is aamir, akki or rajni. The respective fans will celebrate.
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December 2, 2018 at 7:49 AM
ALso if the movie had been a blockbuster else where than in Hindi…then Akshay would have got all the blame. So in a reverse scenario,, credit will go.
I however thing the movie will make money in 1 year for the makers. Did not they already earned 350 cr or so even before the release via selling of various rights.
As the movie is getting very positive wom, those prices will remain now. Had it not been for the public response, the same scenario would have cast the doom.
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December 2, 2018 at 8:01 AM
If Akshay could give big opening, he wouldn’t have got any blame even if film would have flopped.
Currently it looks like that stardom(Rajni + Akshay), kind of failed movie but WOM saved the movie.
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December 2, 2018 at 5:19 PM
No doubt it was not a blockbuster opening like ToH or Baahubali2. If it had opened big in Hindi belt, it would not have triggered a debate. So i agree with you.
Nonetheless, 20 Cr + Opening for 2.0 Hindi on a non holiday Thursday, where night show benefits don’t come in) and where almost entire south was unavailable, will qualify for a good opening if you factor the 15-20% shortfall.
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December 2, 2018 at 2:25 AM
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/hindi/bollywood/news/sonali-bendre-who-spent-months-in-new-york-battling-cancer-will-now-return-to-the-city-she-calls-home-mumbai/articleshow/66904638.cms
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December 2, 2018 at 4:20 AM
https://indianexpress.com/article/world/paris-protest-yellow-jacket-france-emergency-emmanuel-macron-5474984/
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December 2, 2018 at 4:23 AM
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December 2, 2018 at 4:55 AM
Sidhu is making news for all the wrong reasons.
In his Twitter profile he has written
‘Master of All Trades, jack of none, All-in-One; Proud Indian; Cabinet Minister, Punjab; 4-time MP; Cricketer; Commentator; Motivational Speaker & TV Personality.’
All the novice nowadays think of themselves as Master. LOLLLLLLLLL on them.
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December 2, 2018 at 5:50 AM
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December 2, 2018 at 6:14 AM
https://boxofficeindia.com/report-details.php?articleid=4482
3 day 165cr net…by Sunday it will be 300cr worldwide gross..will still need another 450cr gross…difficult but not impossible
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December 2, 2018 at 6:47 AM
Boi is over-reporting. The numbers most are quoting are 60+40+48 = 148 cr all india nett in 3 days.
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December 2, 2018 at 7:23 AM
Look at the extreme optimistic tone of Krish even when 2.0 opening has not been up to the mark nor the trending suggests of any miracle keeping humongous 550 Crore budget in mind to that of TOH where he had already made up his mind where he remarked the former was being massively over-reported ( though he doesn’t see 10% as overreporting but TOH was an aberration as that starred Aamir!!).
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December 2, 2018 at 7:29 AM
Agree. Some here including boi started to think that 2.0 will be another big success like Baahubali 2. And now they are showing their anger against tamilnadu for not cooperating.
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December 2, 2018 at 7:46 AM
Some here are showing anger? I don’t know about BOI’s rant but
look at the thread and you’ll notice that most of the anger here comes from people praying that the film fails! Those hoping the film works seem happy. Naveen is in celebration mode already!
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December 2, 2018 at 8:10 AM
Definitely. Confused and annoyed as to why tamilnadu is not performing upto the mark. I have posted one Hindu article about how 2 tier and 3 tier dont have those big screens and how controlled ticket prices are also responsible for expensive films to recover the costs and me profit.
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December 2, 2018 at 8:13 AM
Rahul, have not so many prayed for the failure of toh? The same also prayed for the success of 2.0 to score more brownie points over aamir.
Action and reaction.
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December 2, 2018 at 8:16 AM
and how controlled ticket prices are also responsible for expensive films to recover the costs and make profit.
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December 2, 2018 at 8:20 AM
They are confused and annoyed as to why tamilnadu is not performing upto the mark. I have posted one Hindu article about how 2 tier and 3 tier dont have those big screens and how controlled ticket prices are also responsible for expensive films to recover the costs and making profit an uphill task.
And Rajni’s last films underperforming also casts some shadow.
The film’s message is also not clear.
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December 2, 2018 at 8:27 AM
“look at the thread and you’ll notice that most of the anger here comes from people praying that the film fails! ”
You just noticed that?
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December 2, 2018 at 8:51 AM
Of course.
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December 2, 2018 at 8:33 AM
Z, it is action and reaction. If others prayed for Toh failure, naturally aamir supporters will not pray for the success of any film following. Accept that fact. We are also waiting for Zero and praying. Haha!
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December 2, 2018 at 1:36 PM
” If others prayed for Toh failure…”
I don’t think people are that mean. Even diehard fans. I want all producers to get their money back and do not like to see films flop. Most of the time there is a collective audience radar, audience knows, it can smell the movie before its release. And when it doesn’t or thinks that movie is flop and do not go see it, there is WOM and they are sleeper hits. Making movies is risky business but a good product will always sell. A bad product will always tank.
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December 2, 2018 at 12:20 PM
I havent even once lost sight of the 750 cr gross figure anywhere in any message of mine..even in above one I said 450cr more to go..regarding TOH I had no doubt it will crash and I was first one to tell that by invoking besharam..i never even complained about toh extrapolation infact everywhere i said it is within reasonable limits….regarding boi reporting I think their overall number seems okay..we will know tomorrow when BW and ABO gives their number…
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December 2, 2018 at 9:27 PM
Your overoptimism towards one favourite is there for all to see!! Despite Telugu & Tamil not performing as they ought to be in movie’s first week keeping the massive budget, huge star-cast and an ace director, you keep showing us the bright side despite facts suggesting otherwise!! If a movie of the size of 2.0 could not open to bumper response in its first weekend, what chances are there that it could do in the coming weeks and that too 500 Crores?? Let me know how many movies have achieved this feat in the past? As far as i know none and you are making 500 Crores figure look like a ‘laddoo’ which can be achieved whenever you want!! You were so critical of TOH opening day number, yet you were the same guy who advocated for 10% differentiation in reported numbers was fair which takes TOH’s first day figure in 46-47 range, still a record opening!! But I have never seen you question, even for once, the ‘ so called accurate 44.97 crores’ figure of HNY ever, why??
You think us to be ‘gullible’ who would believe anything under the garb of box-office expertise but we know the ‘agenda’ but keep mum to let you ‘enjoy’ the fallacy but sometimes it becomes indispensable to uncover the truth lest it go beyond recognition.
Fans praying for the success of their favourites is nothing unusual but praying for others failures is not only absurd but senseless as well as other stars failures can’t compensate for your star’s failure!! It’s only when your favourite succeeds, it makes a difference not others failures. So let’s assume Shahrukh’s next bombs but could that reverse the backlash Aamir received for TOH as both are standalone movies and the audience wouldn’t start loving Aamir for delivering a turkey as Shahrukh has also one!! Everyone is judged on the basis of their talent and capability, so in case of Aamir, the audience has the highest bar both quality and box-office wise and when he fails to deliver on both count, he is bound to face brickbats. It’s the expectations people have which determine the success or failure as Virat scoring a mere 50 is deemed a failure for most of the people when the same 50 is celebrated by other players is just the difference how people look at them hence the difference in expectations. As a fan, I want Aamir to succeed based on his films and decisions rather than failures of his peers as that gives me nothing but negativity which is toxic for my well-being.
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December 2, 2018 at 10:00 PM
That’s quite an unfair comment..I have been the only one in this blog who have been vocal about following BOI so there is no question of following any other number for me..Whether HNY or JTHJ I was the only one advocating BOI number rather than producer number..jayshah can vouch for my stand if he remembers..I also keep saying that 10% manipulation in hindi box office is acceptable and have always said that and that was the reason I never had any issue with TOH..regarding the negative reporting of BOI I cannot help it if there was no uptick on Day 2..why will I say anything positive about any movie which is falling every single show..just to please people??..TOH was an epic reject from the first show and that was the only thing I reported and i am sorry i cannot sugar coat it..regarding 2.0 show me one post where I said it will be a success…show.me one…the only thing i have said is it has a positive feedback from day 1 and that I want it to succeed as it is a Tamil movie..but I was the one who posted in this blog that it needs 375 share for success and a 750 cr gross…you can be positive about trend of amovie without being positive about success of a movie…and yes I do still have doubts about the movies Tamil numbers..because a.movie doesn’t do 16cr gross when it does 2.75cr in Chennai city..the mathematics doesnt add up..so till BW reports the Chennai number I will wait and watch…for AP we have ABO and I never doubted those numbers..and for hindi we have BOI…
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December 2, 2018 at 10:12 PM
Here I am saying telugu version is flopping..you might want to go through my comments again and tell me one place where I have said movie is going to be a success..I would have talked about trend and positive feedback but visavis budget never ever said it will be success
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December 2, 2018 at 10:14 PM
Krish is trying too hard.
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December 3, 2018 at 3:13 AM
The issue i have with you is with selective pick and choose whichever suits your agenda!! You also didn’t answer my question whether any movie ever collected this figure excluding Bahubali 2 that too after first weekend for you to display so much of optimism for 2.0 box-office prospects??
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December 2, 2018 at 7:24 AM
Will need 500 not 450 as 800-300=500!!
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December 2, 2018 at 6:26 AM
On Horror films, Stree, 2.0 and the legend of Parshurama
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Having read the plot of Shankar’s 2.0 (I’ve decided I’m not watching this film), I’m reminded of the avenging spectre trope used in Horror cinema, across both Hollywood and Bollywood. The plot in such movies is usually quite simple: an honest person is wronged and killed. That person’s spirit rises from the ashes and seeks revenge, often stopping after the perpetrator is killed.
In Hindi cinema, films like Madhumati, Bees Saal Baad, Suryavanshi, Bhool Bhulaiya (Chandramukhi in the South), Om Shanti Om, Talaash, Darling, Bhoot and now Stree offer the same (or a slight variation) of this familiar plot device. In Hollywood, we have What Lies Beneath, Candyman, The Grudge & Ghost among other such films. It’s such a common trope that it even finds its way into popular literature.
The interesting part about this seemingly generic motif lies in its usage. Almost exclusively, in Hindi cinema, the avenging ghost happens to be female. It’s not a coincidence. Rather, it serves as an example of effective social commentary. Women in India being oppressed and marginalized are given superpowers (after death) to right their wrongs via this plot device. The other option (story-wise) is to let the oppressed women fight it out against the system (a patriarchal society) but that sometimes makes for a not-so engaging social drama (e.g. Shakti — The Power, starring Karisma Kapoor). Moreover, the first approach is usually more commercially viable as well.
In Stree, Bollywood’s recent runaway hit, the script writers take the former approach. In what is essentially a pro-feminist script, set in a small village where male privilege runs rampant, the all-powerful avenging spirit not only hunts for males but also takes them away naked, metaphorically stripping them of their masculinity. The horror film genre conventions stay in place, but this subtext offers delicious irony with respect to the battle of the sexes. The males in the village are, in fact, forced to wear sarees in order to escape punishment. In other Hindi films, the retribution is not so harsh, and certainly not all males are targeted, but the unscrupulous villain, always a man, is found running terrified. The social order is thus inverted.
Shankar’s 2.0 also has an avenging spectre in his story. But this time around, it’s the story of a man, an ornithologist, who takes revenge on mankind for destroying his favourite species — birds. Although one can’t deny that birds represent a marginalized section of life on Earth, I’m inclined to think this plot point is so far out there, it’s practically irrelevant. It’s a manufactured cause, a politically correct subtext that’s neither here nor there, in case it offends anyone. And offending people, even a small sub-section, for a big-budget extravaganza is like committing wilful suicide — especially in today’s politically charged climate. But this informs a separate discussion.
There is another point of commonality between Stree and 2.0 (based on the story I’ve read) where once the spirit becomes omnipotent, it imparts punishment indiscriminately. It doesn’t really care if someone is innocent or not, it’s out there to get everyone who remotely fits the bill. This reminds of the legend of Parshurama — the sixth avatar of Vishnu who wiped out the entire Kshatriya race no less than 23 times. I find this similarity, this greying of areas, quite interesting. Direct revenge is perhaps justified, at least in a cinematic universe, but how does one deal with repeated instances of killing? Should our sympathies still lie with the avenging spirit once it starts killing out of mere habit? I find this kind of moral conundrum to be a surprise package in genre films. In a good way, of course. I personally look forward to more such open-ended explorations in commercial cinema.
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December 2, 2018 at 7:06 AM
Interesting.
“Although one can’t deny that birds represent a marginalized section of life on Earth, I’m inclined to think this plot point is so far out there, it’s practically irrelevant. It’s a manufactured cause, a politically correct subtext that’s neither here nor there, in case it offends anyone. ”
On the contrary, the story for the birds is so compelling that noone will say it is manufactures, artificial cause. 🙂
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December 2, 2018 at 7:23 AM
“This reminds of the legend of Parshurama — the sixth avatar of Vishnu who wiped out the entire Kshatriya race no less than 23 times. I find this similarity, this greying of areas, quite interesting. Direct revenge is perhaps justified, at least in a cinematic universe, but how does one deal with repeated instances of killing? Should our sympathies still lie with the avenging spirit once it starts killing out of mere habit? I find this kind of moral conundrum to be a surprise package in genre films. In a good way, of course. I personally look forward to more such open-ended explorations in commercial cinema.”
This is a wonderful commentary. The dilemma was there with me as well. I am still unable to decide who is right or wrong in the whole movie. As a cell phone user…am i indirectly killing the birds (esp migratory birds)?
This question will remain with all and to some extent strengthens the antagonist role.
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December 2, 2018 at 2:02 PM
Vikram Bhatt’s sordid mind decided on an exception. one of his ghost stories had the ghost returning to rape a female ghost (whatever that means)
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December 2, 2018 at 2:24 PM
“I’m inclined to think this plot point is so far out there, it’s practically irrelevant.” Yes. Bang on. You are right. I feel/felt the same way. Wish it was a different cause that is more familiar and imminent danger to society. It felt that they took birdman-ironman concept first and then tried to come up with a cause later on to weave into the story.
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December 2, 2018 at 6:57 AM
Very pertinent video where Aamir stressed on the importance of script writer on Dangal’s success and in his career while receiving Master Deenanath Mangeshkar Puraskar:
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December 2, 2018 at 7:15 AM
He should take the full time role vacated by Anupam Kher, that of FTII chairman.
A very prestigious position and he can then groom students.
This would be great for the industry.
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December 2, 2018 at 8:35 AM
Rajni will be more suitable. A man from the south. Or Mani ratnam.
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December 2, 2018 at 5:27 PM
Aamir is available now and highly competent to teach. Others are busy.
However your choices are also fine if you are saying this in reference to ToH and subsequent lack of faith you might have had. You are for sure not an Aamir fan, so it can happen.
Nonetheless, Aamir remains my top choice for academics.
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December 2, 2018 at 8:28 PM
After reading this and other comment I realise why Marcus called you what he did though I wont do it. I sort of like you and these kind of comments are also quite funny.
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December 2, 2018 at 8:40 PM
One semi-successful movie doesn’t erase Aamir’s entire track record. Apart from movies he has SMJ and Paani foundation. But Akki would suit the role of Anupam kher just fine Naveen 😉 🙂
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December 2, 2018 at 10:24 PM
Both of you are taking my suggestion with a pinch of salt. You all need to be a spy.
Akshay is not academic material at all. He is not a thinker like Aamir. I think you guys are assuming that my suggestion is sarcastic. On the contrary it is not. I value Aamir very highly.
FTII chairman is a very prestigious position in the industry. They drive the future of film making in India. OK, if not a permanent role then definitely some form of association to understand the creative direction. Other person could be Hirani. These are the top 2 names i have.
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December 3, 2018 at 2:50 AM
But ‘timing’ says a lot about your suggestion!!
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December 3, 2018 at 2:56 AM
Who told you that Aamir is ‘available’ when there have been a lot of recent posts about him going to USA for research on Mahabharata!! Just one flop and unsolicited advices & suggestions!!
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December 2, 2018 at 7:02 AM
2.0 Hindi so far.
In Cr daywise : 20+18+25+30+ Cr = 93-95 Cr weekend (4 days) nett
This is a huge turn around from Friday. Then it was looking a certain flop. Scenario has completely changed now. Trending is at Vera level, usually associated with superhit films. (8-10 times opening day).
Weekday prediction-
Monday – 12 Cr ( i will not be surprised if its more, but am taking worst case scenario)
Tuesday – 11 Cr
Wednesday – 10 Cr
Thursday – 10 Cr
Week 1 (extended) = Rs 140 Cr nett
Akshay Kumar has another sure shot hit. 12th in a row now.
This year with Padman, Gold and 2.0…he has given the more diverse movies. Extraordinary talent is now getting recognition.
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December 2, 2018 at 7:09 AM
BOI has blasted Tamil film industry for unusual negativity and is totally justified in doing so –
The all India business of 2.0 got a boost on Saturday with collections of 56-57 crore nett. The jump was driven by the Hindi circuits especially North and Mumbai but the Southern markets are sustaining. This film has a lot of negativity in the South and it mainly seems to be coming from the Tamil film industry or people linked to that industry when in truth it is THE film of that industry and should be the pride of that industry.
The negativity was pretty clear on Thursday evening when these 12 and 13 crorre GROSS numbers from Tamil Nadu started to do the rounds. But at the end of the day you may have some takers for this sort of rubbish but in the wider picture its just some sort of agenda or limited knowledge of box office numbers. In short 2.0 is to the Tamil film industry what Sholay is to the Hindi film industry and Bahubali is to the Telugu film industry. It may not reverberate at the levels of those films across India but that does not take away the fact that it stands apart from what has come and gone in the Tamil industry so far by a distance. So negativity for the best ever in your industry is just crazy.
The other reason for the agenda could be the hero Rajnikant but the fact there is this guy has dominated that industry for 38 years now and it can be pretty much said it will never find such a megastar again. In fact maybe the industry can attempt to make a film at the level of 2.0 again in time but the stardom of Rajnikant in Tamil cinema will not be repeated.
When there is negativity about a film like Thugs of Hindostan then it is understandable as its public rejection but with 2.0 there is no such thing and the film has been liked by the vast majority be it Amritsar or Ambur.
The film will go past 200 crore nett on Sunday and will basically become the highest grossing film (not adjusted) in the history of Tamil cinema in four days in India and worldwide. The worldwide figures should comfortably cross 300 crore by the end of business on Sunday
https://boxofficeindia.com/report-details.php?articleid=4482
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December 2, 2018 at 7:32 AM
Myselfaamir – You are the China BO champion more than anyone else here.
Padman is releasing on 14th. This could be the biggest bollywood movie there in Dec. I would rate its chances to be better than ToH just on the basis of movie quality. (There is no comparison actually).
So please share the news once the China release for Padman gets closer.
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December 2, 2018 at 7:39 AM
Padman maybe appreciated for drama but its message is not relevant to China as they dont have the same taboos like us. Just like TEPK.
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December 2, 2018 at 7:46 AM
I am not aware of taboos in China. Thanks for informing me.
I will still stick to my opinion and belief from whatever i have got to know about menstruation and issues with it for poor women. This is a global problem and no country is untouched.
Read what Bill Gates said on Padman.
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December 2, 2018 at 7:56 AM
And Padman goes beyond social issues. It celebrates entrepreneurship / social business and knowing few chinese business man (i would rate them highly and extremely aggressive when it comes to doing business), it is going to connect a lot more than it did in India.
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December 2, 2018 at 8:02 AM
It is an interesting point which I overlooked.
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December 2, 2018 at 7:35 AM
The film should have been released only in hindi or in tamil only abroad. The theatres are divided between 3 languages and making choices difficult for the audience. One telugu family I know wants to watch it only the telugu version but the theatre and timings are not suiting while hindi version is more accessible. If there is only hindi version, they would have gone to that theatre without thinking.
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December 2, 2018 at 7:39 AM
True..same with few i know.
However there are not many who watch other language movies. If Akshay had not been in 2.0…not sure if it would have got even 1000 screens in North India. Now we know that Hindi business is leading the show overall.
Case in South India for hindi film is even worse. A Hindi movie in south India is less popular than an english or a chinese film.
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December 2, 2018 at 8:38 AM
Tomorrow will be crucial. Monday and also tuesday.
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December 2, 2018 at 8:44 AM
Any guesses from admirers and cynics?
Can you get the scenario for both north and south?
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December 2, 2018 at 2:00 PM
I go with my previous assessment of 4 day weekend of 90-100 and lifetime of 180-200 for this. If Monday can hold well then it may go past 200. The growth of 30-35% on consecutive days of weekend is going to augur well for this movie. The difference between TOH and 2.0 is TOH was on a free fall from 2nd day. The growth indicates that public acceptance, especially family audience, is very much there.
I guess for the first time Akshay’s movie is faring better than Salman and Amir films in a year. If Zero underperforms, then in a calendar year Akshay will have outclassed all 3 Khans.That’s a quite achievement.
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December 2, 2018 at 2:00 PM
Huge turn around for 2.0 Hindi version after Friday. Looks like finally Akshay may get his first 200crr film.
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December 2, 2018 at 6:30 PM
Sanjana – “Z, it is action and reaction. If others prayed for Toh failure, naturally aamir supporters will not pray for the success of any film following. Accept that fact. We are also waiting for Zero and praying. Haha!”
I really appreciate this honesty. But the path chosen by you (i still do not know why you talk in ‘we’ as if all Aamir fans are same), is a long laborious one. Till the next Aamir’s release, you have to keep on doing and trust me it will not only be painful, but also you will be the one who will be wrong most of the time. And that next Aamir’s release is not going to come soon. In fact it would be more delayed now.
Not sure if you are watching Big Boss, but there is a character called Deepika. She is foolishly supporting the arrogant Sreshanth calling him Bhaiya etc. They share common interest for sure, but the support looks awful.
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December 2, 2018 at 8:48 PM
It will not be painful but fun. I have nothing to lose.
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December 2, 2018 at 10:25 PM
All the best!! Let’s see.
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December 2, 2018 at 6:51 PM
2.0 Hindi: Few Sunday reactions-
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December 2, 2018 at 8:32 PM
I don’t think people are that mean. Even diehard fans. I want all producers to get their money back and do not like to see films flop. Most of the time there is a collective audience radar, audience knows, it can smell the movie before its release. And when it doesn’t or thinks that movie is flop and do not go see it, there is WOM and they are sleeper hits. Making movies is risky business but a good product will always sell. A bad product will always tank.
I am not that naive to believe that others are so good after going through all those threads.
And bad films work most of the time and good films tank most of the time. Just like bad people thrive while good people suffer most of the time.
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December 2, 2018 at 8:35 PM
102 Not Out was below the mark in China has it grossed $3.16 million in China over three days. Hichki a couple of months back had grossed around $5.1 million though 102 Not Out had a better Friday. The trend was not too strong for 102 Not Out as collections on Sunday were 30% down from Saturday.
The $3.16 million number is INR 22 crore which looks big considering that 102 Not Out is not a big film but it got a good release in China and the expectations on the release were of better numbers. Its unlikely the film can sustain in China. Pad Man which has a female subject which tend to fare better in China will release on the 14th December and hopefully will see a better turnout.
boi.
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December 2, 2018 at 9:32 PM
The numbers are all over the place for 2.0. And here is what Deadline is saying regarding the sad state of its BO reporting … What a mess!
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Before turning back for the moment to FB2, there’s an Indian film that looks to be doing bang-up business internationally. Numbers out of India are routinely difficult to assess, and particularly when a film does not hail from Bollywood. Based on local information, Tamil sci-fi actioner 2.0 is looking at huge weekend globally (putting it in the company of the recent Baahubali movies). This will be updated as soon as we have more clarity.
https://deadline.com/2018/12/fantastic-beasts-grindelwald-crazy-rich-asians-china-venom-ralph-breaks-the-internet-bohemian-rhapsody-global-international-box-office-1202512458/
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December 2, 2018 at 10:09 PM
Negativity is also part of life. It can be called by other names like competitiveness. When one receives so much negativity, one also wants to give it back to some extent. It is toxic but it also takes away the sting and makes one to move on in life. Sort of therapy.
Otherwise those action dramas will not be so successful. The whistles heard when the hero is bashing the villain again and again.
When I said ‘we’, I also thought that I should not be talking on behalf of others but that ‘we’ indicate some of us in my circle outside this blog.
When Federer beats the other guy, do we feel the pain of the one who was defeated? Not much. Or not at all. That is life.
Have we not seen how one positive person becomes negative because of circumstances? To be positive is good. But to be negative is not that bad sometimes.
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December 2, 2018 at 10:29 PM
As long as negativity is a part of life, i agree to your point of view.
Just don’t make it your entire life by associating with arrogant abusers. Then it would suck.You will get irritated but just for the sake of supporting you would keep his side.
Siding with arrogant abusers will also make matter worse. You may win one brownie point but the guilt will soak out the real happiness. Rather avoid such people.
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December 2, 2018 at 10:35 PM
You are referring to Marcus. I am not supporting him for being abusive
but for supporting aamir wholeheartedly while also being extremely critical of him.
They are two different things. Cant throw away the baby with the bathwater.
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December 2, 2018 at 10:28 PM
I am always a bit cynical. Whether it is about aamir’s invincibility or taking something for granted. But the orchestrated campaign by social media, by vengeful critics and by vested interests is something else. Extraordinary cirucumstances makes one become extraordinary in reactions too.
Some of the campaign might have been directed at YRF itself for the way it treated media(with arrogance) and for the high ticket prices which they foolishly publicised as if they were delivering some magnum opus.
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December 2, 2018 at 10:57 PM
https://www.hindustantimes.com/bollywood/sonali-bendre-returns-to-mumbai-says-battle-against-cancer-is-far-from-over-see-videos/story-btWxmSNLSjL7qdO3G2CvHL.html
Sonali is still fighting cancer but atleast she is with her loved ones and at home which will give her lots of happiness and confidence.
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December 2, 2018 at 11:10 PM
I never abuse other stars or fans. Am just supportive of a favourite( Aamir), even while I am aware of his shortcomings. Have been critical of him , but elsewhere, not here too much.
Self and some other fans do find the TOH crash to be quite intriguing. It was an ok film that could have become a semi hit. It did not deserve to be totally shamed the way it happened. Critics, many of them,completely compromised and biased,started the campaign called shaming of TOH. Will not forgive Taran Adarsh the trade guide critic who went on and on with his talk against a TOH, right up till third week. Did not care to read gossip columnist critic Masand or that idiot Raja Sen. Did read a decent review from Bhawana Somaaya who gave TOH three stars. And a few foreign reviewers too, fair enough.
When I watched the film, first day, evening, almost the entire hall seemed to be laughing along — though a few people did fiddle with phones. This fiddling with phone happens with the best of films though. When I was watching Manto in September, one guy had an entire conversation on his mobile. What the…😡 Any film, good or bad, deserves viewer’s attention.
After the critical attack, rival fans, assorted politically motivated attackers, all had a go at TOH, leading to domino effect crash. I read of people cancelling tickets, due to bad reports on social media. Don’t you have enough sensibility, awareness through trailer and other material, to have a sense of the film? Of course, the campaign against TOH started right after the release of promos, over a month earlier. The constant reference to Pirates of C…. No, TOH was never an Indian Pirates, save for the look of Firangi, a nod to Jack Sparrow, perhaps, a bit.
TOH debacle was a perfect lesson in how to kill a film.
Thankfully, places without India effect — they are giving the film it’s due.
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December 2, 2018 at 11:16 PM
One example of what you are saying is that blog members like Satyam and Rooney cancelled their tickets after Jay started bashing the film. His expectations had not been met, obviously. But Tony’s review (the first one in this blog) was middling. So Aamir fans like Jay had also pitched in their contributions to the fiasco.
Agree with all the rest that you have pointed out.
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December 2, 2018 at 11:35 PM
I will not go by what others say when I want to watch a film.
Infact it makes me much more determined when someone asks me not to watch a certain film when I liked that film because of trailers and other factors like actors starring in them.
I was not impressed by the premise of Manmarziyaan inspite of people going gaga over it on this blog. Maybe I will watch it on tv and change my opinion.
Sort of liked Raees and liked some songs of JHMS.
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December 3, 2018 at 12:05 AM
Do not remember any song of JHMS. I do remember a scene where the lead pair sing loudly in the early morning European air….it looked unnatural.
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December 3, 2018 at 12:08 AM
Safar and Hawayein. I did not watch the movie but heard only songs and song promotions. I dont know the context of those songs.
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December 2, 2018 at 11:49 PM
Jay swayed a lot! Kabhi idhar, kabhi udhar.
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December 3, 2018 at 12:01 AM
I am fully aware where he came from – big masala expectations and was a victim of it. What he perhaps did not realize is that he was adding additional fuel to fire. Happens.
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December 3, 2018 at 2:46 AM
I didn’t realise my critisism would lead to cancellations. If anyone wants a ticket for TOH I’ll buy it for them. Satyam for sure wouldn’t simply go on my word alone. He read Rangan’s review too and then decided to not watch it.
I don’t take my own opinion this seriously, others definitely shouldn’t!
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December 2, 2018 at 11:19 PM
Let it go if the movie was well made it would’ve done well, you Aamir fans need to come to a fact he made a bad movie after a decade that’s fine none of the actors can say that, but you fans need to stop putting the blame on social media
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December 2, 2018 at 11:23 PM
Now all you Aamir fans go support zero his boy srk needs a big hit
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December 3, 2018 at 12:00 AM
I do plan to watch Zero this Christmas. Am never against any actor. Zero looks interesting enough. A family member is down from the US — and what better movie outing than Zero.:) Though our last SRK film together, in an Albany, NY theatre — wasn’t the greatest.😄
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December 3, 2018 at 12:02 AM
SRK was all right in Jab Harry met Sejal. But Anushka was irritating. The film was….bad. Even the SK fans accompanying us hated it.
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December 3, 2018 at 12:14 AM
Nice I live in Toronto been to Albany before when I was coming from New York is there a lot of Indians in Albany?
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December 3, 2018 at 12:16 AM
Jhms had some good songs and some decent scenes but movie got boring in the second half I was about to snooze myself. Srk did apologize recently for making that movie I think
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December 3, 2018 at 12:56 AM
i am going to avoid Zero at all cost – SRK does not get the nuances right and in every frame is trying to do a DDLJ-Rahul act – OTT show! no chance that i will go for this self-aggrandising vanity affari….a dwarf dancing to perfect bollywood coreography et all…is too far-fetched for me….i suspect anand rai has fallen for the bygone-srk just like rohit shetty fell for it….
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December 2, 2018 at 11:23 PM
@LS – Here is a comment from Rangan’s blog that i believe is the best constructive criticism I have read about ToH’s scripting issues. Agree with this on all counts and really hoping that the chinese cut is more on these lines …
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“TOH suffers from unimaginative setup. The movie should have started off showing the Firangi character, his antics and then through him we should have been introduced to the Thugs without any backstory. The reason for their actions and their emotional flashback should have been shared with the viewers only in the second half, and then moving into a change of heart from Firangi and then heading towards the revenge seeking climax. It would have worked significantly better. Imagine a MERSAL or a VADA CHENNAI if the flashbacks portions were narrated right before the titles, what follows would have been boring screenplay offering no excitement whatsoever. What TOH did was something from the 80s and hence paid the price for it.”
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December 3, 2018 at 12:35 AM
I believe you didn’t read my review of TOH. I said that the movie should have called ‘Adventures of Firangi’ and more about his character then showed his adventures and this story as one of his adventure and foundation would have been laid for sequel.
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December 3, 2018 at 1:59 AM
@ Marcus: I did read you review of TOH, enjoyed the write up. Just did not comment on it. Agree, the film should have been called something else — like,Firangi Mallah or Firangi Kahaani, maybe. And perhaps the film title Thugs of Hindostan could have been inspired by the late 18 th century book, Confessions of a Thug — and this is where wrong expectectations came in when you use the word thug, the image conjured up is bloodthirsty highway robbers and killers. Here, you have a film mostly at sea — in every sense of the word😄
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December 2, 2018 at 11:53 PM
Good points! The sort of attacking left, right and center of the film was uncalled for.
it had a “behti ganga mei haath dhona” effect, where everyone simply started trolling the film for no good reason. It had its flaws but was never “unwatchable”. but what to do? we live in an era of memes
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December 2, 2018 at 11:21 PM
A complete fiasco on the part of Indian box office sites. It’s 2018 and no one has a proper Box Office tracking system. 2.0 has totally exposed the system’s flaw.
One must also take into account the unethical BO reporting and multiple exhibitors (for their own reasons) not sharing the complete data
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December 2, 2018 at 11:26 PM
Its a joke dude … a sad one. Taran, Boi, & whoever is quoting ‘whole’ numbers of their own liking. No decimals or any ugly numbers – its either 20 cr or 25 cr round off numbers based on their vested interest. Too neat to be true.
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December 3, 2018 at 4:01 AM
It’s a joke but it’s obvious people in the industry want it this way. It gives a certain get out of jail free card to them to use whenever they want. I doubt the general public gives a crap too.
This is like Narcos where the cartel have paid off everyone in the system and they are all happy to play along. A few fools like me come along thinking they can help but it’s pointless.
We are all happy with wrong information. The day everyone fights for no tolerance I’ll wake up. But when reasonable folk accept this useless box office system I might as well just stick to watching films instead of giving myself weekly headaches over collections.
I’ll follow China and US. India can keep blasting out it’s corrupted numbers…
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December 2, 2018 at 11:29 PM
Lot of shows getting cancelled in 2D today morning due to no audience…largely in cities…
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December 2, 2018 at 11:53 PM
This is how a chinese sci-fi production looks like …
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December 3, 2018 at 12:19 AM
Recovery status of 2.0 compared to other big south films.
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December 3, 2018 at 12:26 AM
Both Baahubali films had recovered 70% of their distribution rights in first 3 days despite being such big films. Their economics were quite reasonable given their market potential and meeting expectations.
On the other hand, 2.0 has just recovered 30% of its distribution rights in first 3 days. Says everything about its botched up economics at play.
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December 3, 2018 at 12:21 AM
New Popeye videos, to begin in 2019, show what 90 years of spinach can do for a guy, writes George Gene Gustines.
Popeye the Sailor, the weathered and quick-with-his-fists cartoon character, is getting a reboot for a series of animated shorts that premiered Sunday on YouTube. The shorts and a new series of comic strips, which will begin in 2019, were created to celebrate the character’s 90th birthday next year.
In the animated series, Popeye is being recast as a more youthful, environmentally resourceful fellow, who lives in a washed-ashore houseboat, collects rainwater and grows his own spinach. Are skinny jeans and kale salads far behind?
“He’s younger, but you can’t tell how old he is,” said C.J. Kettler, president of King Features, which syndicates the “Popeye” strip. “He’s not an old guy, he’s not a young guy; he’s somewhere in between.”
https://indianexpress.com/article/parenting/events-things-to-do/popeye-the-sailor-90-grows-spinach-new-videos-5475708/
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December 3, 2018 at 12:24 AM
2.0 is supposedly doing rather well in the single screens in the Hindi belt today. we might be looking at something around 15 crore
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December 3, 2018 at 12:29 AM
One really cant expect 2.0 to sustain in A-center plexes in the year when AIW did 227 cr, JW did 100 cr and MI6 did 85 cr. Demands from visual spectacles are now too high for Shankar to appease this segment of audience.
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December 3, 2018 at 12:31 AM
@SumitkadeI
#Issaqbaazi out tomorrow. It will create HAVOC on social media platforms.
This is the srk and Salman Khan should be huge
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December 3, 2018 at 12:40 AM
smart marketing move, days before the film release
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December 3, 2018 at 1:12 AM
@Shahjaan. Albany has a fair sprinkling of Indians, but just enough. Employers like GE Research, Global l Foundries, plus State Univ of NY headquarters, nanaociences institute, Rensselaer Polytechnic ( full fledged technology college, not polytechnic in Indian diploma sense)…give space for Indian presence.
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December 3, 2018 at 1:29 AM
2.0 (Hindi) Has Excellent Extended Weekend
Monday 03 December 2018 11.30 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
2.0 (Hindi) scored a huge Sunday with collections going to around 33 crore nett apprx. The four day weekend of the film is 95 crore nett apprx which is huge number for this film. The families have really come out over Saturday and Sunday..
The film did start slow in some areas on Friday but by Sunday its doing very well across the board. The film is missing business in the South due to the Tamil and Telugu version and if it was a normal Hindi film then it would be a 105 crore nett extended weekend. The ticket prices have also not been hiked for this film like it was for Race 3, Sanju and Thugs Of Hindostan.
The first three day collections of 2.0 (Hindi) are as follows
Thursday – 20,00,00,000 apprx
Friday – 18,00,00,000 apprx
Saturday – 24,00,00,000 apprx
Sunday – 33,25,00,000 apprx
TOTAL – 95,25,00,000 apprx
The main worry for a dubbed film is post the first day especially if the dubbed film has a healthy first day number but this film has gone through with flying colors. There is acceptance for the film across all Hindi circuits and now its about the level it holds on the weekdays. A normal Monday hold confirm this film as a HIT. .
The film has also done well in Tamil and Telugu in the South but due to the growth in the Hindi versions it is actually the Hindi version which has performed best..
Note – The all India all format and territory collections will be updated later on.
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December 3, 2018 at 1:36 AM
“The ticket prices have also not been hiked for this film like it was for Race 3, Sanju and Thugs Of Hindostan.”
This isnt true. I watched it by paying Rs. 550 for one ticket, mroe than what I paid for Sanju. The exhibitors are just shooting up the prices like anything. there should be some law governing it
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December 3, 2018 at 1:31 AM
2.0 (Hindi) Sets Weekend Record for Akshay Kumar Films
Monday 03 December 2018 11.45 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
2.0 (Hindi) is the highest Akshay Kumar opening weekend and that too by a distance as it went through the figures of Housefull 3 by a margin. The film was a non holiday release and it had about 10% of the hindi film business missing due to a non release in the South for the Hindi version.
The Akshay Kumar factor is in play in this film as its North India which has out performed for this film. Till date every South dubbed film (be it a success or disaster) has under performed in places like Delhi / UP and East Punjab but here these two markets led the way. On Sunday they had crazy collections of 7.50 crore nett in Delhi / UP and 3.50 crore nett in East Punjab. Bahubali – The Conclusion was universal and performed to huge levels across all Hindi markets. The presence of Akshay Kumar has made a difference to the film across all Hindi markets especially North and Central India.
Bihar and Rajasthan are also huge for a dubbed film with Bihar possibly coming out with an all time record on Sunday for the highest single day in history.
Gold remains the highest opening day of Akshay Kumar but that was a national holiday release. Below are the top ten opening weekends of Akshay Kumar. Normally a film opens on Thursday if it is a holiday on Thursday or Friday but it was not the case here so the regular Fri-Sun weekend is taken for comparison. All are three days.
1. 2.0 – 75,25,00,000 apprx
2. Housefull 3 – 53,27,00,000
3. Rustom – 49,53,00,000
4. Toilet Ek Prem Katha – 49,09,00,000
5. Jolly LLB 2 – 47,59,00,000
6. Brothers – 47,42,00,000
7. Rowdy Rathore – 46,04,00,000
8. Singh Is Bling – 44,23,00,000
9. Gold – 42,58,00,000
10.Airlift – 42,57,00,000
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December 3, 2018 at 1:38 AM
More than the Akshay Kumar factor it’s a larger-than-life spectacle. The posters promised a fun-loaded experience perfectly fit for B and C centres.
Akki doesn’t even show his face till the interval
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December 3, 2018 at 2:03 AM
From reports, Monday morning shows have opened quite strong and almost on par with Friday.
Addatoday predicting a minimum of 175cr lifetime with a chance of crossing 200cr.
The Hindi version is doing alright.
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December 3, 2018 at 2:11 AM
Congrats Naveen. Feeling happy for Akshay. I like Akki. More then Actor he is my fitness idol. Our physic is almost same. Both of us belive in natural body without going to gym. Healthy diet and normal exercise. As an actor also I am repeat this often in this decade and especially in last five year Akki has the most diverse kind of filmography. Meaningful film with good box office result. Quantity(no of films) with quality. I just pray success doesn’t go over his head like 2007-08. Khans, Akkis and Devgans of the world should understand this. Time is running out for them. They are not going to get younger. So focus on good film. Once again congrats to Naveen for weekend century.
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December 3, 2018 at 2:36 AM
bad …..
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December 3, 2018 at 2:49 AM
Looks like a mix of dabang 3 and singham3..but would be fun..they seem to have connected singham to this..
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December 3, 2018 at 3:21 AM
Lyca has reported 400cr gross for weekend for 2.0…no breakup is provided..
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