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ABO has India numbers as 240cr gross for 4 days..it has done around 80cr gross on Sunday…
At the risk of being panned again i will say that IMO the rest of India gross is deflated here. It cannot be 102cr…the net is around 94cr so gross will be around 120cr without 3D glass cost….with glass cost it will be around 125cr+
ABO will put up the worldwide figure by evening…
BW yet to release Tamil numbers
I assume you are talking about the lyca numbers. They are very Bollywood centric analyst..they will not have any figures..the Bollywood numbers seem ok…only BW and ABO will question..that too ABO will question only telugu and BW will question Tamil…no one knows the breakup of lyca numbers..even in best case scenario it wont be more than 325cr gross..so Lyca is just throwing random numbers surely
Myselfaamir- regarding your query has any movie collected 450 cr after the first weekend other than bahubali 2 worldwide….I dont think so apart from.secret superstar and dangal…but movies dont usually have 3 languages to gross from like bahubali 2..as I said the only reason why I didnt write off the movie after day 2 was due to the wom..and in a sense there has been an uptick on day 3 and day 4. If it is wrong to be optimistic then I am at fault..but it’s the wom that is reason for optimism not any fandom..
It still isnt..its hard but not out of bounds….the wom is quite good..if it has done 300 cr till Sunday which seems to be case then getting 450cr with good trending across the world is not impossible..
Again your calculation is going haywire as to get to 800, it’d require 500 not 450!! Second, the total budget was around 540-550 and if P&A is added, then it’d certainly be North of 600 at the bare minimum, so it would need at the very least 800 to 900 NET not gross to get the hit tag.
The producers have sold it to distributor for a price..the hit tag is based on that price…not on the budget..the rest they recover from ancillary rights…so for example kjo has bought hindi version rights for 77cr and movie is a hit at 170cr in hindi version…most producers sell to distributors lesser than budget as they have non theatrical recoveries
Meanwhile BW has reported the 4 day Chennai number as 10cr…sarkar had 10cr in 6 days in Chennai city if I remember correctly but TN grosses for this are lower than sarkar in both BOI and ABO…that’s very strange
It’s a joke but it’s obvious people in the industry want it this way. It gives a certain get out of jail free card to them to use whenever they want. I doubt the general public gives a crap too.
This is like Narcos where the cartel have paid off everyone in the system and they are all happy to play along. A few fools like me come along thinking they can help but it’s pointless.
We are all happy with wrong information. The day everyone fights for no tolerance I’ll wake up. But when reasonable folk accept this useless box office system I might as well just stick to watching films instead of giving myself weekly headaches over collections.
I’ll follow China and US. India can keep blasting out it’s corrupted numbers…
I hv a chance to catch up with 2.0 today evening. Surprisingly, advance is good for evening shows today, didnt get the tickets i usually prefer. Not too many hindi shows running here though.
I said during metoo campaign that it was a very poor medium to use. Metoo is practically over from what I can see. If a serious opinion wants to be heard, Twitter is not the medium.
On the flip side, it’s use is growing daily. We all use it here for certain purposes. It’s definitely harmed TOH IMO but not to completely kill it…apparently I did that, not Twitter LOL!
I maintain it is better TOH completely fell like it did than scrabble to 300Cr. Any level of respectability would have given this VKA reason to rejoice, now we can put him to history.
Twitter has it’s uses. People claiming it hasn’t harmed TOH need to wake up soon. Twitter is a multi billion dollar company that is used daily by every media outlet in the world. It is how news travels today or one such way amongst many. It ‘can’ create a fictious view of things. How something so perverse like metoo found it’s way their is beyond me. Film trolling is fine by me. End of the day a good film will survive. TOH didn’t for many reasons other than Twitter.
Enough of my rant, I actually have work to do where my numbers will actually reconcile to a ledger or something!
Crackers are burst even now during marriages and other religious functions.
In tamilnadu I have observed crackers being burst during funeral processions and boys dancing. It is called some kootthu. Brahmin funeral processions are silent affairs and hurried ones.
If they become too expensive, people will stop buying them. Atleast, the poor.
All India NETT : 95 Cr
All India NETT (All versions) : 229 Cr
All India GROSS : 291 Cr
Worldwide GROSS : 380 Cr
Hindi version clearly driving the film with over 41% share in collections while on day 1 the Hindi version share was barely 31%. Akshay Kumar seems to be a huge benefactor & biggest gainer from 2.0
Munna is having fun predicting 2.0 box office. First thread 2.0 he guessed first day collections. Now he is going up from 201 to 202Cr. Very aggressive prediction change for LT. 0.5% increase…
Watched Tumbbad. Hands down the best film of the year. As a cinematic experience, it’s right up there with the very best Hindi films ever made. Will write a detailed review later. This film absolutely deserves every single accolade that comes its way.
I’ve been prolific this year. Don’t watch more than 3-4 Bollywood films a year in theatre, this year it’s been 7.
My rank
Raazi
Badhaai Ho
Manmarziyaan
Sanju
Hitchki (tv)
Padmaavat
TOH
Veere Di Wedding
I’m happy with that but I would count Narcos 1-3, This Is Us 1-2, Homeland S7, Power 1-5, Bodyguard, Sacred Games, Haunting of Hill House all as more productive use of my time. So TV > cinema this year for me.
Unless Zero is the surprise in a small package I doubt I’ll be adding to my movie list.
Best Hollywood film of year. Mi6 hands down.
Worst experience in theatre Equalizer 2. Zzzzz. Biggest disappointment- no surprises here with TOH.
TV, these days, is any day better than cinema. Except for the odd film that’s so brilliant, it doesn’t require the length of time available on a streaming series. I still have to watch a few films before making a final list but don’t think any film is topping Tumbbad this year.
No experience can match that of watching a movie on a big screen, esp if its Imax. Movies for me work better than TV shows as they get it done with in 120-150 minutes unlike web series which go on & on with endless seasons and induce snooze beyond a certain limit.
I was very much a naysayer for many years. But some of these shows are extraordinary each episode…that itself is not easy. Like Narcos S3 just episode 6 and 9 alone one can watch as a movie experience.
And I agree the right film will always trump TV but it’s very rare nowadays.
Yeah. I loved Sherlock, enjoyed Prison Break season 1 & 2 (until it went bust) and am quite enjoying Breaking Bad and Stranger Things for now. However, much of this still remains my mobile or Laptop hobby watch and not the kinda content that’s made the kind of impact some of the Nolan, Sorcese, David Fincher or Spielberg films made on the big screen.
I will go to cinema to see the work of an auteur. Films like Interstellar, Dunkirk etc need to be watched in cinema halls.
But that said, TV shows have the best writing in view today. They have the space to expand on content, to provide background stories, elaborate themes etc. So in a way they are richer, in terms of content. And they also need to be visually enticing as well. Sherlock & Sacred Games both are visually very strong.
In a nutshell, unless it’s the work of a great director, I’m not interested in watching it in theatres.
13-14Cr hold is huge here. Only 35% lower than first day is a big hold. First week heading to 140-145Cr here. 200Cr should be very comfortable, possibly inside 2 weeks, certainly by 3rd weekend if the rest of first weeks weekdays hit double digits.
Easily Akshay Kumar’s biggest grosser ever- inside EXTENDED ONE WEEK!
This will go past SRK’s biggest ever grosser so pressure on Zero!
If this actually opened as per expectations (25-30Cr+) it would have challenged 300Cr, as the WOM is very strong. And really the economics of the film would have been a mute point with no f ups in delays. Genuine blockbuster looks like at least in Hindi.
TOH does 45 Lacs INR in first weekend in Turkey.Around 55% of SS’s weekend in Turkish Lira making it the second highest weekend for an Indian movie in Turkey in INR as well as TL ahead of Dangal. TL has dropped otherwise weekend cld have been in 55-60Lacs range.It opened on much lesser screens than SS with almost zero publicity there while for SS Aamir himself went there.Hope China does much better and Aamir goes for publicity there.
Reading between the lines it seems ticket prices here were not raised on average to TOH levels or more. I still think the biggest issue for TOH after the film itself was the ticket prices. One has to deliver on that promise. That person who leaked should be fired.
And I suspect Zero team will have learnt that just raising prices is not smart economics. The increase has to be justified not guess work.
I am expecting average audience acceptance in China market. In terms of figures i wud say 50m over first 5 days which is an extended holiday weekend and an end total of 70-75m. Maybe it can do more, not wont bet my money on it.
I am encouraged by the Turkish response to TOH. From whatever is understood thru twitter, the film seems to have been liked to an extent. Ditto in Russia. They had a few special shows. I am hoping that China does not reject TOH totally like most of India. In any case, the Indian rejection is part manipulation.
Well, that is a smart way to attend, say hello to his Chinese fans ( and he does seem to have made a deep connection with fans there; have followed up reports from insiders) — and hopefully be as honest with them as possible without jeopardising the film’s chances. Chinese distributors will not be happy if he goes around apologising for the film like in India. But Aamir needs to speak sincerely about TOH. Tricky.
Jayshah I am very skeptical and dont know what to expect.Pre screening Maoyan score might give an idea but it might have a good advantage of holidays infact 4 holidays straight away after friday so if WOM is OK then we might be looking at 40-50M$ 5 day weekend but I am not aware of other HW releases happening at that time in China.
@Rahul, Sanjana – Dangal had a male lead in a non traditional sense. It’s setting was not lavish, the costs are a fraction of 2.0. And coming after Sultan not with a director of Shankar’s pedigree it’s a feat itself.
2.0 is getting Hindi success mainly through Akshay’s visibility. Robot did 20Cr, not bad in 2010. But opening could have been higher. It’s working (without seeing it) I assume on Akshay’s name + content + 3D. It’s not really comparable to Dangal at all. Better to compare with TOH, scale wise or D3, itself a sequel.
2.0 heading to 200Cr+ with no holiday benefit is no joke either, coupled with the split in India suggests more about Rajni’s reducing stardom and Akshay’s gaining. This dynamic others can maybe explain as BB (both) were pan Indian successes, here north is leading the performance, South not – surely that is unusual.
It’s not about the milieu. I loved Mukkabaaz and GoW. But TWM tries too hard to be funny, especially with Kangana playing a free-spirited gundi in the film. I found it totally fake and ridiculous. If you don’t buy into Kangana’s character, you don’t buy into the film either.
Happy Bhaag Jaayegi, another Anand L Rai production, made very little sense as a script and was not particularly funny either. Apart from a spirited Jimmy Shergill.
Out of 11 movies, I think only Happy Phirr Bhag Jayegi is crap; rest all are quality movies even if they worked at boxoffice or not. This is very good record for single independent producer.
TWMR had the most ridiculous climax. Rai makes his leading hero a confused sucker, someone you end up laughing at instead of sympathizing with. That is how all his films are, and Zero wont be an exception going by that trailer.
I am quite sceptical of such rankings if not all are viewed in same platform. I shared the same when Jayshah shared the thread for best films of Aamir Khan.
I usually find theatrical experience, with other audience responses, different from watching it on TV/Netflix, etc.
A ranking on films watch in theatre if mixed with films watch on other platform undermines.
Its like saying London is better than Switzerland while visiting London for 1 week and visiting Switzerland only on laptop. Or vice versa.
Such experiences are part of screen play’s vision. There are many scenes created/envisaged/directed just for theatre going audience. Various effects, etc are used which one cannot recognise in other formats.
Hence in my opinion when talking about a movie…say Tanu Weds Manu Returns and if not seen in theatre..then one should specify it. Because the other person who really liked it in a theatre saw a very different cinema than one who watched it another platform.
Wish i had as much enthusiasm as aamirsaurabh about TOH China’s release after such a disastrous result in India . IF TOH was a under performer like Talaash or Secret Superstar Chinese collections would have mattered and might bring some respectability but the fact is TOH was a massive disappointment an absolute embarrassment and thats how it will be remembered.
It wld be remembered as a massive dissaoppintment in India but I m hoping for some miracle in China.SS also put on a huge 118M$.Atleast some consolation wld be there if China works.
I don’t have high hopes. Anything above a quick smash and grab in China will be an achievement for TOH. Let’s see as Turkey will give some idea of a non NRI market.
It wont recover costs. 375 cr distribution cost in India needs equivalent share for recovery status. Producer figure (over-reported by a margin) is 260 cr nett in all versions in 5 days in India so far. That is just 130 cr share, which is just 35% of recovery target.
And Monday has fallen by 60% from Sunday at all-india level. sustaining at this level over weekdays wont be enuf.
The Good/Very Good
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5) Pataakha
6) Stree
7) Mukkabaaz
8) Andhadhun
9) Manmarziyan
The Exceptional
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10) Tumbbad
The list by Saket is a fair one.
Zero will be the real test for Rai. Can he handle a big star like srk? It is one thing making small films and another thing to make a film with a big superstar. Raees director was the last one to get something good from srk.
Massive fire in Mumbai’s Aarey forest near Infinity IT Park
According to Mumbai fire brigade, the fire, which was confined to trees and dry leaves, spread across an area of about 3-4 kilometers. Although, there were no reported casualties, a heavy damage to the forest is being feared.
Filmcity is also in this area.
Activist Zoru Bhathena said, “Although there might be no human casualties but there might be a huge green cover loss. Also, it is likely that there may be many animals and birds stuck in the forest fire. The cause also needs to get investigated as it may be an attempt to encroach the land by later claiming it to be a barren land.”
Nobody Is Infallible At The Box OfficeHits and flops are an intrinsic part of the show business and an actor, howsoever big, has to take his flops in his stride. The Indian cinema history is replete with examples of the failure of good films, let alone the awful ones.
Film-making is actually a teamwork and no individual should suffer from any pangs of guilt for a movie’s failure. But being Mr Perfectionist and a huge star that he is, Aamir perhaps thinks that he owes an apology to his fans for letting them down. In the past 20 years, more so in the last decade, he has had a reputation as someone who knows the box office like the back of his hand. Thugs of Hindostan, therefore, must have come as a rude shock to him. As a conscientious star, he apparently thought it wise to take “full responsibility” for “not entertaining the audiences”. But in doing so, he is only putting more pressure on himself. Isn’t he?
Aamir should realise that he is an actor and not merely a hit machine. He or his admirers should not expect each of his movies to be a veritable pot of gold. Actually, he should take a leaf out of the book of Salman Khan, who remains unapologetic over the box office fate of his films and claims that even his flops do a business of Rs 150 crore. Or, he should look at the career graph of Naseeruddin Shah, who remains a great actor regardless of the innumerable flops to his credit.
What should Aamir be really worried about is why and how did he err in the selection of the script this time? Thugs of Hindostan, doubtless, had a hackneyed script. He should ponder over it but, at the same time, he should also remember that nobody is infallible in this business where the ultimate arbiter of a movie’s destiny is a fickle audience. Not even someone who strives for perfection in each of his outings!
I am actually pained to see the reaction of few Aamir Khan fans. They are shell shocked.
One became abusive till i intervened.
Another has become vindictive.
Couple of others have become mournful.
Few are finding fault external to the movie.
Most are justifying the movie even when Aamir accepted that he failed and apologised.
I mean WHY? Are you guys so stupid that you let one fall belittle the amazing run Aamir had since last 10 years via 3 great movies and 3-4 very good movies.
I am not “Only” Amir fan. Unlike few here who pride in sayin “I will not watch that film because it has that “STAR”, i can proudly say i have watched all Aamir’s film in the first weekend despite the WoM. I skippped ToH but will watch it sooner.
But again, for the sake of this portal we should not club people. There are many passionate Amitabh Bachchan fans also. They were very excited about ToH as after Khakhee, this was one movie where BigB was ruling the promos. It got me excited.
Post debacle, i am amazed at the maturity shown by Big B fans. I am sure they are pained. But none of them are vindictive, accusing fans of other stars for sabotaging and noone is abusing.
Ok, since I am one of those who seem to be perpetually speaking up for this beleaguered film, let me explain my stand.
I can and have been critical of Aamir films, the man too.
My liking for TOH is not because of Aamir only. I belong to the minority Aamir mentioned, those who were entertained by the film. The film was patchy, entertaining in parts, stretchy and illogical in parts. But it is NOT the worst ever Hindi film as many are terming it. Both filmi and social media have been saying so. There have been worse films in the recent past, one a hit, since the star is accepted as he is.
Yesterday, I felt like revisiting a song from TOH — Suraiyya. I enjoyed the video, this goofy fun flirty song sequence. Then I made the mistake of reading comments. 95 % had trashed it. Have we all lost any sense of fun? There have been worse comedies in Hindi cinema. I found the song to be an absolute riot, right up to the last bit where Firangi’s wig is jacked off. Loved the chemistry of this pair through the film.
I loved Vashmalle too. My spouse too, is a big fan of this buddy drinking song. Master was horrified that I liked the lyrics and the fact that Amitabh was made to dance. I felt, so what if he had a bit of fun in a role that was mostly fierce and righteous.
I know plenty of fans on fb and twitter (and a couple of silent ones here too), people who are unhappy about the total rejection of TOH. But unlike me, they have been wisely silent too. I guess I should too, if I am not to be laughed at.
Aamir has apologized for not entertaining most of India. He is happy that a section of his India audience liked it.
And people who speak up for ANY film, need to be accepted.
I am all for speaking up for the movie one liked.
Just an hour ago i was listening to Suraiyaa. I think it is a wonderful dance song. I wish i had seen ToH and contributed to the reviews. I have remained quiet because i don’t want to say based on other’s opinion/reviews.
My message is for the larger audience.
As fan of the No 1 star, you enjoy many privileges. You have the best box office numbers, some of the most amazingly accepted movies, superb performances, etc. it’s power.
But with power comes responsibility. You cannot use the power provided by your No 1 star to weaponise against No2, no 3…No 10 star. Of course the fans of No 2- No 10 knows that their star if not No 1. These things are obvious. Allow them sometimes to go over the top. Let them enjoy some of the magic.
But never belittle other’s achievement. This way, will make you look bigger. This goes in life as well and not just this portal.
I can only speak for myself. I have never belittled any star. It takes passion and team work to make a film, any film. I review books for a paper. Have rarely spoken out completely against any book, even if the book has glaring faults. I point out thefaults as my opinion, but do try to put in a good word.And when I love a book, I champion it, totally. So, thoseinterested : do check out Mohammed Hanif’s latest novel, Red Birds. It is a parable that critiques the US foreign policy in the Middle East. My review has appeared in Sunday Deccan Herald, couple of days back. It is one funny, searing novel that ultimately left me choked up.
I have seen people on twitter speak up for SRK’s last outing JHMS, as a misunderstood film that raised issues which Europeans connect to, not Indians. I respect their views.
Naveen should become a swamiji and disperse gyan. Nowadays it is a very lucrative profession. It is much better profession than praising Akshay day and night and dealing with passionate aamir fans. Or should become like BigB fans and control himself.
Both of you seem to have been at the receiving end of wrong swamijis. Your bad luck continues. 😛
I know the great ones. My great lucky streak is self made.
Yes, I saw it last night. But nothing much to say about the film. Its not bad nor good, plain average. Its less masala than a regular Shankar film, at least till the point that horrendous 2.0 or 3.0 version of Chitti shows up (and Rajni starts his usual antics). After that it becomes quite intolerable. Rajni was fine in the first half though. But Akshay Kumar has done well (and he shows up in the second half to save it from being a disaster). I think thats the main reason why hindi version is doing relatively better. Akshay deserves all the credit for that.
This film needed to be Rajni nonsense from the get-go to make it really big in TN/Telegu belt. And to make it really big in high-end plexes (like that 227 cr nett for AIW a few months back), it needed to mute Rajni in the second half. So its neither here, nor there – dangling somewhere in the middle.
I think in Hindi it will do 170-175 cr nett and be a plus film. In south its downward trend will continue.
As for visual spectacle, Shankar uses his imagination better than Enthiran. But the vfx execution is not as great as his imagination (probably budget constraints). But maybe good enuf from the kind of vfx exposure that Rajni/Akshay fans usually have.
The best thing about the film is Akshay by a margin. He has a good role, and performs v well. But his ‘message’ gets belittled by 2.0 – quite literally.
Appreciate for you unbiased review. Even I heard from some reviews that Akshay comes off better. It might be the reason for tamil people(some) to be somewhat unhappy. Some even said why Rajni could not do Akki’s role.
Appreciate for your unbiased review. Many liked the back story of Akshay. But for some reasons which are too well known, I dont have any problem with Akshay and his success.
All the best for 2.0 success.
I am confused. I dont watch films in Imax format because it gives me headache. So I will catch it on TV. I think Akshay has given a subdued performance here. I dont dislike Rajni either. Sort of accustomed to his style of acting.
Sorry for the confusion, i meant there is such a cartoonish feeling to the vfx execution here. Hollywood extravaganzas are all beyond that. Even check the visuals from the upcoming chinese sci-fi production – The Wandering Earth. I posted the trailer yesterday.
Instead of fake praise from agenda driven people, I like this honest, heartfelt review from you. Your praise of Akshay sounds authentic and believable and does not leave a bad taste.
@LS – Glad u mentioned the birdman costume. It worked well along with akshay’s look and makeup. The hindi version wud have opened better (at least by 10 cr on day one) had the trailers highlighted more Akshay than Rajni.
I felt the film was very ambitious in its visual grandeur but the good intentions in its message didn’t translate as well. it hits a high during its post interval flashback involving Dr. Pakshirajan’s story, but enters the ludicrous zone again when it ended.
A robot fighting a man’s aura sounds too outlandish, but I was simply swayed by the tech marvel, and this is where I think Shankar deserves all the appreciation. It also helps that you are never less invested in the film. it works as a grand entertainer, not as a film on paper!
Agree on Shankar’s ambition to push it visually. He does deserve some brownie points for it. What I cant understand is, why not do this with a younger star?
Nice review…well enthiran when it was written it was supposed to star SRK…then after the fall out rajni stepped in…2.0 was just an extension of enthiran so maybe they continued with rajni…akshay role was supposed to be done by kamal initially but he backed out..now shankar is starting Indian 2 with kamal..I guess the budget was so high that it needed rajni for the worldwide appeal…
The problem with someone like you who hardly visits theatres of other actor’s movie is you lack sensibilities which are required to appreciate 2.0.
You put some effort for your ToH review but it was more defensive than what Italians play in soccer. Just to prove your point of masala, you went on and on there. It did not cut ice with me sorry. I did read other reviews that praised 2.0 and those were more genuine.
@SANJANA – Whatever little game you are trying to play here, i don’t know. If you think your favourite person can do anything and in the long run all gets forgotten then you are wrong. You play the game u want to. I never forget and forgive.
I am hoping it does 200 cr in hindi and gets certified as a hit. If Devgn could get a 200 cr film with the last Golmaal, then Akshay surely deserves to get there with his effort here.
This film is a lot better than bollywood’s krrish series or any sci-fi attempts.
Not much. Strictly one-time watch. Dont know why Shankar decided to trivialize the issue with cell-phones by the end of it all. He seems completely confused about what he wants to say in the film. Again a middle ground.
paying audiences have matured it seems in 2018 becoz they wudn’t take any crappy stuff be it aamir, rajni, sallu or srk….they want content now…that is a good sign…atleast proper masala also is ok for them but not just big advertisements with no show afterwards….
I don’t think Akshay has ten 100 crores to his name.Btw, if any record of 100 crore ever needs to be mentioned is that Salman is the only actor who touched 100 crore with Dabangg and continued it till now irrespective of flops in between. Every movie from Dabangg till now is over 100 crores which is 13 in a row and I don’t know how long will it continue to do.
That record will continue till he retires. But 100Cr means very little now when small budget movies get there. 13 though is some streak. Only way to lose that is doing a Tubelight or Race 3 on non holiday period.
#2Point0 cruises past ₹ 100 cr mark on Day 5 [Mon]… Will emerge Akshay Kumar’s highest grosser *before* Week 1 concludes… Thu 20.25 cr, Fri 18 cr, Sat 25 cr, Sun 34 cr, Mon 13.75 cr. Total: ₹ 111 cr. India biz. Note: HINDI version.
Week one (8 days) will be 135 cr, thats equal to akshay’s highest grisser so far. Second weekend will be key to an eventual 200 cr nett total for hindi version.
2.0 needs to hold off Kedarnath next weekend. Kedarnath is being predicted to open in 5-8 cr range. 2.0 will need to keep ahead of it in its second weekend to get to 200 cr total imo.
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Will Kedarnath affect the business of Rajinikanth’s 2.0?
Thanks to the presence of debutante Sara Ali Khan and a powerful provocative inter-religious love story as its plot, Kedarnath is all set to be get an impressive opening this Friday. Sources in the know say the beleaguered project which was embroiled in a producers’ conflict has shaped into a love-during-the-time-of-cataclysm tale of epic proportions. The producers RSVP and director Abhishek Kapoor are expecting a heartening opening in spite of Rajinikant and Akshay Kumar stronghold over the box office with 2.0 which opened last Friday.
A source from a leading multiplex chain says they expect a sizeable drop in the 2.0 collections in the coming days. “By the time Kedarnath opens on Friday the theatres, screens and the audience should be satiated with 2.0”
Film & Trade Business analyst Girish Johar says, “Kedarnath has got a very interesting backdrop of the love story set in the Northern Hills of India and one of the most sacred places and temple of the country. It’s a fiction-based love story on the actual cloudburst which led to over flooding there. Sushant Singh Rajput is a fine actor and Sara Ali Khan is a budding new star on the horizon, with decent music, I feel the film should open anywhere near Rs. 5 to 6 crores on its Day 1. Thereafter the content and word of mouth will take it accordingly into the weekend.”
Adds trade analyst Amod Mehra, “Opening should be around Rs. 7/8 crores. In film industry you are known by your last film and both the director as well as the hero had given big flops in their previous films. Despite that thanks to the curiosity of Sara Ali Khan the film’s opening can be decent and earn Rs. 7/8 crores on Day 1.”
Trade expert Atul Mohan adds, “The film has gone through various ups and downs right from inception. And now when it’s finally on the verge of release we are hearing a new controversy about ‘Love Jihad’ arising. In a way all these controversies add to the audiences’ curiosity. The film is a debut vehicle of Sara Ali Khan and she is making all the right pre-release noise with her confidence. Looking at all this I think an opening of Rs. 6-7 crores should be on cards.”
I think 2.0 will manage to sustain as it will only lose its 2D screens to kedarnath which anyways are not collecting much..that’s what most likely will happen..5 days is 110cr..it should be around 145 cr by end of the week if it collects in double digits next 3 days…Friday would be around 7 to 8 crs..seems good to reach 200cr for now..
is really 2.0 making profit or just faking numbers. will it achieve hit status with that 600cr budget.. i dont see its trending well as compare bahubali 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔😌
At this point its more liking producers faking numbers to publicize an imaginary recovery status, given the huge distribution prices. Ra.One deja vu.
Hindi version has a chance of becoming a hit in the end. Depends on how it sustains from here. Our generous addatoday is reporting 20% drop today for hindi, which implies another double digit number today. Subsequent drops over next two days are more likely than not.
TWO VERY DIFFERENT SUPERHERO FILMS LEAD A HOLIDAY LINEUP OF BIG BUDGET TENTPOLES AND HISTORICAL DRAMAS.
Even as we enter the final month of 2018, superhero movies continue to draw massive interest, with a member of DC’s Justice League and an alternate version of a Marvel icon topping the list of Decembers most anticipated movies. If you count the Transformers prequel about a certain VW Beetle and Disney’s decades-later sequel to a celebrated classic, then fantastical tales about extraordinary individuals comprise the top four. Toss in a couple of real-life based dramas that tied for the fifth spot, and you’ve got a pretty hefty holiday movie season to look forward to. With that in mind, read on for the Most Anticipated Movies of December!
1. AQUAMAN (2018)
How do you make a superhero who talks to fish and wears orange spandex cool? Cast Jason “Khal Drogo” Momoa in the role, surround him with people like Nicole Kidman, Willem Dafoe, Patrick Wilson, and Amber Heard, and put the man behind the Conjuring universe in the director’s chair. James Wan’s origin story about DC’s reluctant Atlantean king ranked #1 across all of our social polls and garnered the most Want-to-See votes on RT of any December movie by a wide margin. Aquaman looks primed to rule the box office when it opens right before Christmas, but it’ll face some stiff competition from a few other movies on this list.
2. SPIDER-MAN: INTO THE SPIDER-VERSE (2018)
We’ve already gotten three different versions of Peter Parker since the superhero movie boom of the 2000s, but we’ve never seen Miles Morales on the big screen, and if early reviews are any indication, Into the Spider-Verse could be one of the best Spider-Man movies yet. Produced by The Lego Movie and Jump Street franchise’s Phil Lord and Chris Miller (and co-written by Lord), Sony’s animated film made believers out of skeptics with the first trailer, which showcased a unique, vibrant art style with a beating heart at its center. Considering almost all the reviews thus far have been raves, this one looks like a crowd-pleaser.
3. BUMBLEBEE (2018)
The Transformers franchise has never performed very well with critics (the first film in 2007 is the Freshest at 58% on the Tomatometer), but it has raked in over $4 billion at the box office. With that in mind, this month’s Bumblebee represents a break from formula: It’s a prequel set during the 1980s and centered on just one of the characters, and it’s directed by someone other than Michael Bay (namely Travis Knight). Hailee Steinfeld stars as the human companion this time around, and instead of the more futuristic designs we’ve seen in the franchise thus far, we get robots that more closely resemble the classic Transformers from the TV series. We’ll have to wait and see if the gamble pays off.
4. MARY POPPINS RETURNS (2018)
The latest in Disney’s efforts to remake, reimagine, or otherwise reintroduce classic films from their extensive library comes in the form of a sequel to 1964’s Mary Poppins. The magical nanny formerly played by Julie Andrews is replaced by Emily Blunt, who returns to Cherry Tree Lane to teach timely lessons to the children of the now grown-up Michael Banks (Ben Whishaw). This one only cracked the top five in our Twitter poll, but it also earned the third most Want-to-See votes on RT.
439 cr gross and 200cr distributor share as per BOI in 5 days…still a mountain left to climb..the way I see it now hindi and overseas has to help it to recover the losses in south
ABO has a figure of 140cr distributor share just for India in 5 days…worldwide is around 14mn..so their number will be around 180cr distributor share
It is gross only. Day 1 they had it at 24cr when the reported net was 20cr…..they dont report net anyways..they might adjust it later but it’s a small number of around 20cr gross only
..140cr is just India..adding overseas their numbers will be within 50cr gross of BOI…and distributor share will be 180cr plus…so roughly 50 percent done..if you go by them…
BOI numbers seem reasonable as it is worldwide…we obviously dont know which is right but the range seems to be 180cr to 200 cr recovery till now in shares…it is not going to touch 375cr share..it might end close to 300cr I think…
Typically yes in hindi..in telugu Tamil the share concept is different..if you see heading of ABO column it says gross…you can see sarkar or any film..right side is gross..they stopped reporting net few years back…actually I have also wondered how south share calculation works compared to north..its different for sure but dont know the details involved…
If you see the numbers of Tamil telugu the share to gross ratio is very high..60 percent types but for Bollywood it is just 40 percent..the share works differently there…
I agree with Marcus. BOI is pulling a fast one here desperately trying to get recovery status. They are even looking at the Far East, Japan LOL. The height of hypocrisy of this site is beyond me.
When China provides nothing back, Far East and Japan will save 2.0! BULLSHIT STUFF!
And they are posting 2.0 updates quicker than Twitter! This is not some joke, they are desperate for Akshay Kumar..this Girish Johar or whoever.
The ignorance and sweeping under the carpet of BOI so blatantly in front of people’s eyes is just very sad to see.
It happened with TOH when potentially inflated numbers by YRF and BOI were swept aside as it hurt BOI credibility but folks were happy to champion lower numbers from Kadels and Jaiswals but not accept BOI fudging. Where does one draw a line of credibility?
I dont think so..they are clearly saying it will reach 500 not sure of rest of the 175cr..and I think reason for talking about south east and Japan because these are big markets for rajni…the movie was no 1 in Singapore Malaysia etc last week..
Yea fine but do they even score anything like China has in last 2 years. I bet every $ earnt in these markets in the history of Rajni’s films is less than Dangal in China alone!
They obviously wont..thats why they also mention fledgling markets..but these markets run his movies for a long time..singapore has tamil as national language and tamil movies are big there…sarkar might still be running there for all that we know…btw this movie also released in Norway and fiji due to same reason and did a crore or two there..that’s why it is such a big overseas number..I am not defending BOI but this commentary seems reasonable
Not 2.0 but other films that do in China!
I’m simply saying the overseas is being used here in disguise whereas for other films that release in China, that market is ridiculed. So how can BOI be so disrespectful in one instance but here it is reasonable.
Not a fair way to look at it. It’s a flop in South, heading for BB in Hindi, overseas I don’t know. These are all separate arrangements, covering losses with success of other is like covering India with China 😀
Was about to say that. Hindi wont be BB in any case given that high distribution price of 75-80 cr. But heading for Hit/Superhit status depending on how lenient one is regarding these verdicts.
Yes I get that…you cannot make up losses of one with other…as its sold to different entities..it is going to be losses in south and surplus in hindi and overseas…very strange..I would have never thought a shankar movie doing well in north and not in south..the price has killed it..let’s see how the next 2 weekend go for it
#ThugsOfHindostan Will Release in China On 28 Dec. @aamir_khan Will attend 6 City Pramotional Activity & attend Closing ceremony of Hainan International Films Festival in China on 16 Dec. #Firangi#AamirKhan
Have read one where that some edited out bits have been added. Don’t know how true.
Six city tour….I am guessing YRF and the Chinese distributors want Aamir to sell the film as much as possible…and Aamir needs to be careful, not apologising obviously, but being guarded. So the film may be more about Firangee.
If true, they should release that edition in India too. I know its difficult to release but they should market it as limited 1 week run for super edited version at select cinemas with 100-200 rupees only at plexes.
Pruning is accepting it didn’t work and was essential to have any chance in China. I wonder what the editor left out, I bet this blog could edit TOH to a blockbuster as it wasn’t that bad.
Marcus I like a bit of banter but usually when I’ve seen my cards I start to brag. Going to the casino would be fun with you, I think you will feel a straight flush every hand!
Unfortunately, I dont refer you at all when i talk abt trolling. You have your own views and i am fine with that. As Saket said, krish did not get that offended by his post. Again, it was not krish who started a moronic rant when i said some of the numbers he quote is idiotic …
China release just 50 days of domestic release is insane.SS before this was the one with the minimum gap and before it Dangal and before it PK tells us abt what Aamir is in China
@Jay – I posted the above set of tweets on China release for a reason. And no, it was not to piss off a few people here.
Aamir is taking enough time out from his current work schedule to do a promotional tour for 6 cities and attending a film fest before the china release. That is at least one week of his time. And he is taking another cut of the film to that market.
My point is that he has enuf faith in the film (even after all the bashing and trolling it received in India) to further work on it to make it better (at least they have tried) and is then going all out for China release. That says something, doesnt it? I think he is on the same page as those few of us who have liked the film. I belong to that category and am quite pleased that he obviously feels the same about his 2 years of work.
At least he didnt cancel chinese release after reading your comments. But dont mind that, coz your words are enuf to get our respected blog owner to cancel his tickets.
@Marcus- if he’s on the same page he wouldn’t change the film at all. The point is he has publicly acknowledged the dislike and YRF too so they MUST edit it to give it a chance. It’s the only option if they go for China release, I’ve already been convinced that it is fair to release it so relax. But am cautious about the response and more hopeful than confident.
Satyam would watch the film if he wanted to irrespective of my opinion. So I think you should stop pointing this finger at me. I’ve known him long enough to know one person’s opinion won’t stop him, if anything it will peak his interest more to watch it.
You’re really beyond limits here. My point yesterday was in jest that over confidence after such a huge farce is just pointless, nothing more than that. Instead you’re trying to prove how Aamir likes the film like you do when he’s acknowledged it’s gone wrong. Enough, we’ll know everything we’ll need to know come China release.
You are misreading everything. Firstly plz revisit aamir’s interview. He apologized to those like u who did not like the film. Then he thanked a minority like me who liked the film. Then he acknowledged the trolls saying everyone has the right to say stuff against the film. And he said that although the film did not work for majority of indian audience, he is still looking fwd to china release in dec. Is this not clear enuf?
Aamirsaurabh, I don’t know what’s your life or career or location but in all honesty, I want to suggest that you should make this your profession. The passion you have for Chinese collections is incredible and you should contact Aamir khan productions and tell them you can help in marketing in China or work with them when the deal will be going on, etc. You know all the details than anyone else sitting in that discussion room. Then you can take to be the lead coordinator for all Bollywood film releases in China. There is full requirement for a specialist now in Bollywood and oldies can’t fill this spot. Take this suggestion seriously.
On a serious note, if one needs to do what you propose then he/she will have to really study local chinese productions and their fascination for hollywood extravaganzas. Good luck to anyone who has that much time and enthusiasm.
I am an Engineer at Hindalco(Flagship Aditya Birla Group Company) at Renukoot,UP and I earn well enough.This is just a passion and I have no intrest in pursuing it as a career.Marcus let TOH release in China and I am sure we are excited abt it as it is a full on commercial pot boiler.Reactions in China is not discourging till now.
Did I? I usually don’t provoke or poke a person. But yes, i will reply in same currency if i see goondaism.
I am not in a ‘fan club’ group here indulging in such nonsense of poking or provoking and then instigating other group members to react.
My opinions are not guided.
I also don’t want to guide anyone towards a particular agenda.
I dislike such group politics as it smacks of stupidity and jealousy.
1.Stree- what an overhyped Chu##yapa, getting tired of Rao’s bumbling act . Whatever AnJo said about Badhai ho is actually true for Stree.
2.Pathaka- This was double Chu##yapa, matlab no rhyme and reason par picture bana dee. the sibling fights seemed entertaining in the beginning but soon they became boring and annoying, Vijay Raj bhee ab typecast ho gaya hai.
3.The Post- Again Overhyped and boring no drama at all .
4.Sui Dhaga- felt like watching a documentary .
5.The Five- Not as good as Bodyguard, lots of unrealistic stuff and too many coincidences, but the last episode was so moving.
It should be with sub-titles if it’s on einthusan. Do not miss 96. If you like conversational movies, you will love this: On the lines of Linklater’s ‘Before Sunrise’ series.
Subtitles but awesome movie and AnJo has added his valuable comment also. Before series my Fav but it is not like Before series though, one may find similarity
If you don’t mind subtitles and have Hotstar subscription (I got email from sling that Star is being removed from Jan 4th), Check a Bengali movie “Kabir”.
Ya I got that email from Sling as well.
Frankly with KBC gone, My wife’s favorite -Bepanah gone, and Indian Idol to be gone by Dec end I will probably end my subscription after the Winter break.
True. I don’t know what people saw in Stree. At least Badhaai Ho if not great movie was good but Stree was painful watch. They called it horror comedy but not enough horror nor enough comedy!
I’m not really a horror fan at all. Partly because stuff rarely scares me. Or spooks me. I find it a really overrated genre. But if this arrives on Netflix I’ll give it a go.
Stree: a no holds barred entertainer. goes slightly OTT and outstrethed in its climatic portions but all in all a fun film. quite unique in some matters. glad that we had a pure desi horror comedy in its treatment
Patakha: Not VB’s best but a good film nevertheless. the sibling fights are repetitive and its loud but its endearing throughout
The Post: very good film with fantastic lead performers. bites as much as it can chew, and does a good job at it. fairly uncomplicated and that’s why it’s engrossing
Sui Dhaga: One-time watch, but some great moments, especially when it involves the familial interactions between the couple or with the parents
India’s most inspirational film of the decade..another wonderful story here.
Inspired by @akshaykumar's "#Padman", a 13-year-old Dubai-based girl has adopted 250 girls from rural Maharashtra and donated sanitary napkins to them!https://t.co/Xo1Hj6AHiD?
There are flurry of Bollywood releases in China now. (Has the quota increased)?
While Aamir opened the gate, the humongous success of smaller films like SS, Hindi Medium and Hichki has given confidence to the Chinese distributor to look at other films now and tie up with Indian counterparts. I wish this doesn’t become a one way street.
I would like to see mainstream chinese movies releasing in India too dubbed in local languages. The success of Jungle book and Avengers shows the acceptance in India towards international films dubbed in local languages.
T 3014 – NAGPUR .. for 'Jhund' .. the new project by Nagraj , his first in Hindi, the maker of 'Sairat' the Marathi block buster .. a centre of attraction .. and NAGPUR, geographically apparently the centre of geographic India .. may the 2 centres thrive ! pic.twitter.com/e6GGMH3iSP
Massive. Salman and SRK when together dancing for Katrina will break the decibel level in the theatre.
Those planning to watch Zero on TV, please excuse.
Those not planning to watch, thank you!
Twinkle Khanna talks about the challenges she faced while finding people who would finance Padman
Mumbai: Twinkle Khanna, who produced Akshay Kumar-starrer Padman, said on Friday that there were many people who questioned her decision to back a movie which supported the cause of menstrual hygiene. Padman is inspired by the life of Tamil Nadu-based Arunachalam Muruganantham, who created affordable sanitary napkins for the women of his village.
The film, directed by R Balki, had Akshay playing the central character. It is based on the short story, “The Sanitary Man of Sacred Land” from Twinkle’s book “The Legend of Lakshmi Prasad”. “When I started making the film, a lot of people said, ‘Are you crazy? Who is going to watch a film on menstruation? People don’t talk about it.’ That was the challenge- to find people who would be ready to finance a film like this.
“As a team, we were determined and we realised the impact (of the film) as the government announced that they are installing sanitary pads vending machine at railway stations and there was an impact on the GST. We did play a small part in bringing that about,” Twinkle said at an event here.
The film, which released in January this year, earned over Rs 100 crore at the box office. Twinkle, 43, has been roped in as an artiste ambassador by Save the Children, a leading Child Rights NGO in India, to champion the cause of adolescent health and menstrual hygiene.
Twinkle on Friday visited the slum area in Govandi to interact with adolescents, who are part of Save the Children and its partner agency Apnalaya in creating awareness.
“I created awareness through columns and a movie. We needed to do a ground work and it was great to be a part of Save the Children. Also, we got to know that 20 per cent of school girls drop out because they hit puberty and they do that because of the taboo around menstruation. They do not have access to low-cost sanitary pads.”
Citing the example of a 12-year-old girl from South India, who committed suicide after she was reprimanded by her teacher as her uniform was stained, Twinkle said there is a need to change the mindset.
“It was gratifying to see what they (Save the Children and Apnalaya) did in Govandi, they were not only educating girls but boys also. That is important as we live in a patriarchal society, where men are controlling the household.”
Trailer out tomorrow… #Uri – The Surgical Strike stars Vicky Kaushal, Paresh Rawal, Yami Gautam, Mohit Raina and Kirti Kulhari… Directed by Aditya Dhar… Produced by Ronnie Screwvala… 11 Jan 2019 release… #UriTrailerpic.twitter.com/zfNVJjuBgr
Distribution and exhibition sectors in joyous mood… #2Point0 brings abundant cheer… Boosts morale of exhibitors, who were shocked after the disastrous response to #TOH… Optimism is back… Hope #Kedarnath, #Zero, #KGF and #Simmba brighten up the scenario further!
2.0 (Hindi) dropped 15% on Tuesday which is a bit more than the regular 10% for a big film on a Tuesday but its was the sixth day here instead of the fifth day. The film has collected over 120 crore nett in six days and the first week (seven days) is looking to be around 130 crore nett.
This 120 crore nett for 2.0 in Hindi is without South so real value is around 135 crore when compared to other Hindi films. Its still about the Friday which will tell where the film is going and there will be a some competition from Kedarnath which will get a good release though collections will be another matter and will depend on the film. .
The first three day collections of 2.0 (Hindi) are as follows
Thursday – 20,00,00,000 apprx
Friday – 18,00,00,000 apprx
Saturday – 24,00,00,000 apprx
Sunday – 33,25,00,000 apprx
Monday – 13,50,00,000 apprx
Tuesday – 11,50,00,000 apprx
TOTAL – 1,20,25,00,000 apprx
The southern versions of the film dropped less in Bangalore though Hyderabad was in a similar range to the Hindi version.
Note – The all India collections will be updated later on.
Taran has updated a neat 122.5 cr in his site (again no ugly fractions). Week one will be approx 137 cr in 8 days. Golmaal Again collected similar in first week.
It needs to do 31-32 cr in second weekend like Golmaal did, in order to get to that 200 cr milestone. And it has Kedarnath as competition. Doable IMO.
I dont think they update as frequently as boi (speaking from my experience during BB2’s box office run). They will probably update entire week’s collection next.
dropped 15% on tuesday. this may get a 140 crore week one and then may finish at somewhere around 190-200 crore. best for an akki starrer till date but should be doing more!
2.0 All India Day Six Business
Wednesday 05 December 2018 13.45 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
2.0 grossed continues with strong collections all over with business of 24 crore nett which takes the film to over 280 crore nett. The film is doing record or near record business in the big centres of Tamil nadu and Kerala. The smaller centers are less but are very steady and will have good runs.
Bahubali – The Conclusion is the highest all India NETT grosser at 1115 crore and that is impossible to touch but it will easily become the second highest NETT grosser ever as it beats the 418 crore nett of Bahubali – The Beginning. The 500 crore nett mark will also prove to be a step too far due to the flow of releases in December.
The first six day NETT collections 2.0 across India are as follows.
#2Point0 sets the BO on 🔥🔥🔥… Double digits yet again on Day 6 [Tue]… The trending on weekdays is EXCELLENT… Thu 20.25 cr, Fri 18 cr, Sat 25 cr, Sun 34 cr, Mon 13.75 cr, Tue 11.50 cr. Total: ₹ 122.50 cr. India biz. Note: HINDI version.
First week heading towards 140Cr. Rowdy Rathore business will be beaten today or tomorrow.
The pan Indian business is not spectacular at all. If it’s not getting to BB2 Hindi business (that’s a decent enough target) than the South markets didn’t do as well as expected. Basically it’s beating BB1 all India net with a shot at BB2 Hindi net. (This paragraph based on BOI report posted by Sanjana).
2nd week Hindi business looks like 40-45Cr. LT looks on track for 200Cr.
It is indeed shocking that Akshay had to wait for so long to cross 135 Cr barrier. I will blame his choices as well as lack of good directors for his kind of cinemas.
Good action films have always done well. However since last 10-15 years, Hindi cinema has lacked good action directors.
If we look at last few good action movies- Wanted, Ghajini, Dabangg, Rowdy Rathore…all were remakes of South India movies. Last solid director were Rajiv Rai (Tridev, Mohra, Gupt, etc.) and Raj Kumar Santoshi (Khakee, Ghayal, Ghatak) and occasional Anil Dharma and JP Dutta. This really impacted Akshay who was grooming towards the action hero. All these core action film directors faded because they couldn’t reinvent.
On the contrary we had directors making mushy good romantic feel good movies which helped other stars like SRK, Salman, etc. They needed softer looking heroes with chocolaty looks. Rajshree, Chopras and Johars made them big stars.
It again needed a director from South india to push Akshay’s BO boundary. I doubt if this boundary is going to be breached any time soon. The North Indian directors just don’t know the masala actioner genre.
I don’t watch the South films but if we compare the north and stuff like Wanted, Ghajini, Dabangg, RR all of which I liked then for sure the talent for this kind of genre is in the South. One day hopefully North, South distinction is not having to be mentioned at all!
The likes of Santoshi, Rajiv Rai, Anil Sharma and JP Dutta really excelled with action dramas. They made action films for the northern audience.
Santoshi combined drama and action well and the rythm in his films got relentless once during the second half. Rajiv Rai made big action films in a thriller format. The edting was crisp, the scenes were kept short and the films moved at a breakneck pace with VIju Shah’s BG score accompanying it. Sharma and Dutta like patriotic films, laced with flash-backs, emotions and love stories but they were good with large scale action scenes. Unfortunately they haven’t been able to re-invent themselves.
The kind of action films being done these days is more the kind of action inspired from south films.
I don’t think Akshay Kumar is doing enough action films. You have to go back to the days Gabbar, Baby and Holiday for those last action movies. For an actor who does 3 or 4 films a year and who is so good at action, it is puzzling why he stays away from action deals.
Even when Masala films started working during the times of Ghajini, Wanted and Dabangg, he waited for too long before doing an action film.
Trie and it is sad, but not Akki’s fault. He was not getting good scripts in core action or event in action comedy genre.
He was approached by Lyca for Kaththi remake which would have been a good hit with him. But instead he chose 2.0
There are not many action film scripts that are coming.
Now he is being offered historicals with lot of action scenes. He will consider on of those…however its coming too late now with his age. He should have got these offers when in his 30s and 40s.
Movies like Tashan, CCTC, Blue, Boss etc just blew away the opportunity to give Action comedy genre with Akki. Foreign studios never came with technologies..they just put money on the stars. YRF made few actioners but they only promoted directors like Victor who made Dhoom series or Kabir Khan. They never really looked out to make actioner in true sense.
UTV delved more on new age stories which was easier to make with evolving sensibilities of Indian audience. Ram Gopal Varma and Anurag Kashyap wasted their talent in chasing girls rather than scripts. Entire 2000s got wasted as far as good action comedy films are concerned. Priyadarshan, Sunil Darshan, Vipul Shah and Niraj Pandey couldn’t make bigger and better films with Akshay despite getting biggest hits of their career from Akshay. They all used Akshay and gained but never really evolved themselves to return the favour.
Tamil specifically has underperformed majorly but bizarrely it will set lifetime records in all TN cities…so basically the B and C Tamil mass centers have failed and A centres have broken records..I always had a major doubt whether 100cr share is even achievable even in Tamil when no movie before has even reached 80cr…
Would B and C centres have the ability to film 3D versions? Or is Rajni simply not the draw he once was? Or those rumours of political stance have some truth? Or a combination of many such factors?
Not sure..not political surely as kaala didnt even open in cities and came too soon after the shooting incident…maybe that whole scifi thing was too much for them..you know what’s strange..its doing record business in Bihar though…it has hardly recouped 35percent of share in Tamil yet…telugu is atleast at 55.percent…
One of my friend from Patna told me that the largest patna daily Dainik Jaagaran and Hindustan carried out a 4.5/5 star review in Hindi. People read newspaper in Bihar and UP more. 😀
The urge in such cities towards technology has to be seen to be believed. People in the race to compete with big cities adopt tech stuff faster.
Marvel to release Avengers 4 trailer on Friday: Report
After weeks of waiting, it seems that Marvel will release the first Avengers 4 trailer on Friday, December 7.
The songs were awesome. One of the greatest song in the history of Hindi Cinema.
This songs sounds simple but has things which people who dont’ know music won’t understand it. Kavita Krisnamuthy said it the best; in music, you have a language sa re ga ma pa, but in this song Rafi did things outside of the language.
My fav bollywood movie and Din Dhal Jaaye is probably my fav song of all time.What a masterpiece.Guide is the best bollywood music album of all time.PERIOD.
Interestingly R. K. Narayan disliked the film adaptation of his novel. Reviewing the English version of the film for the magazine Life, he called it “The Misguided Guide”.
In a caustic article published on The Cut website on Tuesday, actress Priyanka Chopra has been called a “modern-day scam artist” with whom husband Nick Jonas shares a “fraudulent relationship against his will”. Chopra and Jonas, an American musician, got married in Jodhpur on December 1. The article, written by journalist Mariah Smith, is titled “Is Priyanka Chopra and Nick Jonas’s Love for Real?” – and attempts to prove that it is not. The article also portrays Chopra as a money-minded celebrity who calculatingly married the unassuming Jonas as a power move.
The Cut is a website that is brought out by the New York magazine, which is owned by New York Media LLC. Its “About Us” section describes The Cut as a “premier destination for women with stylish minds” that covers “politics, feminism, work, money, relationships, mental health, fashion and issues relating to equality”.
The 2,100-word article was roundly panned on social media from people across the globe. Social media users also criticised the piece as being racist and sexist because it accuses Chopra of trying to rise in the ranks in Hollywood by marrying an American celebrity, ignoring the fact that she has been a major star in India since 2003.
In 7 days 2.0 will cross 300 cr nett in India and 500 cr ww gross. The challenge is going to be to double these figures by the end of its run (China, Malaysia, Far East included in ww gross).
China will be 10-15m range if it gets a wide release. Not sure what boi is expecting from far east and far west ;(apart from antartica and arctic regions).
Doubling first week collections or 7 days has proved difficult for every major grosser since 3 Idiots except of course BB2. And I guess with BB2 that might only have happened for Hindi dubbed version. None of the 200Cr+ club except 3 Idiots have done this (I think). So 2.0 is really going to have to do something special overseas here IMO in the Asian belt.
Dangal came close to 2x opening week, followed by Padmaavat…the closest since 3 Idiots.
Economics aside I would definitely call 2.0 a resounding hit in Hindi (It’s trend is positive). It is still a dubbed film so it’s achievement is still next to only BB2.
Other languages seems flop. Overseas haven’t followed. If Padman scores, it might be Akshay Kumar who emerges after Aamir in China as #2. And of course 2.0 will arrive in May19.
Marcus verdict seems fair….thats what it is looking like…in Tamil it will end up as a resounding flop…In Telugu could just about reach average if it gets a better second week…Hit in Hindi and Overseas…
2.0 just lost out huge business by not releasing it during Thanksgiving long weekend in US. When one is done with long vacation and getting back to routine lives people tend to not go to movie in same week. It was a stupid decision to not release it after 2 weeks of TOH and wait for 3 weeks.
Hindsight is wonderful. If they knew TOH would be a disaster they would know. But I suspect they expected it to run for 3 weeks. These big releases can’t advertise a date and change it so nimbly and just for US market alone?
My point is till now any big movie releases gap is 2 weeks. No one did 3 weeks and they went out of the way to create 3 weeks gap also sacrificing overseas collection and huge holiday. It was not a hindi film alone and they would have gained enough collections from other languages. Even TOH is blockbuster, 90% of the collection would have come in those 2 weeks and that is usually enough gap.
True they probably should have come earlier. Once you lock that date, preponing an already costly film is difficult I’d imagine. They certainly would have taken US market by storm.
Anyway next time round Aamir won’t get the benefit of the doubt or luxury of 3 weeks. Even Salman only got 2 weeks for Race 3 before Sanju release. So Aamir can expect some immediate competition going forward. Unless its Mahabharata or something like that where all bets are off. But if he did Mogul I could easily imagine direct competition on same day as his bubble has burst now.
I feel that one of the reasons she married Jonas is just to have this beautiful train trailing like a parachute unfolding. The never ending train. She showed her fetish for this in one of her fashion statements.
Either Anushka or Deepika can beat Priyanka in style statements.
She made her marriage look like a fairy tale and Jonas looks nothing less than a Prince Charming.
Neither Anushka nor Deepika can beat Priyanka in style statements.
She made her marriage look like a fairy tale and Jonas looks nothing less than a Prince Charming.
Show off and style. Both. I dont know why all this looks so fake.
The fake smiles, the fake poses, everything fake. But nowadays I am seeing even ordinary middleclass people who can afford are imitating these trends.
300+ nett in 7 days. However, 500 is far fetched as per BOI. No ways can 2.0 ever be called anywhere near a HIT if the final all India nett collections in all versions combined is <500 Cr.
The likes of Karan Johar & now Excel Entertainment are behaving like pimps. Dubbing every single big budget extravaganza from down south and arm twisting exhibitors to give them a 4000+ screen release while the dubbed versions of well accepted Hindi films like Dangal, Padmaavat & Bajirao barely get 200 screens upon release in Tamil & Telugu. I’d rather have these corporate czars produce some similar big screen extravaganzas in their own industry and attempt to get a 2000+ screen release for their dubbed versions down south. Every Telugu or Tamil movie is not a Baahubali as 2.0 has proved, for which the Hindi version is the only saving grace thanks to its bi-lingual nature and Akshay’s presence.
The WW Gross of 2.0 will be better than most Hindi movies barring 1 or 2 movies…It will be close to 600 to 700 cr Gross. Not sure how many Hindi movies have done that…Apart from Bahubali1 and 2 what other movie was dubbed and released in Hindi? The scale of 2.0 deserves a wide release like this.
Someone had posted the list of big movies releasing next year – many of them are South. The scale and vision at which they are working now these Bollywood directors are not yet matching..
Dangal, Secret Superstar, Bajrangi Bhaijaan and P.K in that order above 700-800Cr. Below that Sultan, Sanju, Padmaavat, TZH, D3, 3 Idiots. Though that’s Wikipedia who use inflation year ending rates so not perfectly accurate.
How many screens did the likes of Bajirao, Padmaavat and Dangal get for their dubbed versions in TN and AP? Dangal was a masterpiece that got a cult following even in China while the dubbed versions accumulated a mere 12 Cr nett, thanks to low screen count, lack of awareness and perhaps lack of interest among the south audience (outside of Bangalore, Hyderabad, Vizag etc) to witness the film. Even today, >70% of the highest grossing Indian films worldwide are from the Hindi film industry with Rajamouli and Shankar being the only film makers to have broken through. As for 2.0, its almost half a Hindi film with the bilingual dialect and Akshay’s presence leading to a solid initial in the core Hindi film markets. If the likes of BB and 2.0 get 4000+ screens for their dubbed versions, its high times distributors and exhibitors in the Telugu and Tamil movie market reciprocate the same for dubbed Hindi films, for it to be a more valid comparison. Despite all the grandeur, 2.0 might manage a little over 450 Cr from 7000+ screens, a pale comparison to even Padmaavat which amassed 300 Cr+ from just about 4000 screens. Forget Dangal’s 387 nett (gross would be a lot more).
@ Naveen. I’m skimming through comments and see you’ve slipped by saying 12th hit in a row for Akshay Kumar. I will use your beloved, devoted one and only BOI to give you the reality check you need.
I can’t believe Reema Kagti made such a lifeless movie out of the Gold script. It was so mechanical effort and no one cared for any character on screen. It should have been easy superhit movie but they botched it up.
Jolly & Housefull 3 are both Semi Hits than Hits imo. They both costed over ₹ 80 Cr and released in >3500 screens while barely crossing ₹ 105 Cr nett. The only clean hits among them are Airlift, Rustom and Toilet.
Ouch…did i say 12? I must have quoted from some news portal.
i was more referring to this list of last 3 years-
2016 Airlift
2016 Housefull 3
2016 Rustom
2017 Jolly LLB 2
2017 Naam Shabana
2017 Toilet: Ek Prem Katha
2018 Pad Man
2018 Gold
2018 2.0
Padman is my most favourite movie here. I don’t know but somehow the entire social entrepreneurship struck some kind of cord with me.
It not always we come across films like these from mainstream actors. I can understand a Rajkumar Rao or Ayushmann doing it at the beginning of their career. But some with a strong image like Akshay Kumar, completely going out of the way and doing this act was nice to see.
Right from start to end, he actually lived the life on reel of Real life Padman ‘Arunachalam Muruganantham’.
The care he showed for his wife, for other women in family and getting obsessed to make an affordable Sanitary Pad so much so that he shunned hesitation( imagine the movie was based on years of late 90s, when even the word menstrual cycle was not uttered by women even, forget men).
His inner desire to do good was seen in his small successes and failures and experiments. Eventually, succeeding thereby giving powerful message to all in general about never loosing hope. Keep trying.
More so, he refused to take the help of translator in a conference at United Nations (in the film) and tried to connect in “Linglish”( watch the film for this).
So, this movie is a must watch if one is really inclined towards issue based films in which he/she don’t get bored rather understand the emotions and can connect with the scene.
If you just want entertainment from this film, I think that would be a great disrespect to cause for which this film has been made. Although, at times it will bring cheers of joy as well.
Hence, must watch and take home the message of breaking the shackles of taboos imposed (like not to talk about sanitary napkins) and other such taboos also.
Vee, I am using this term because this is how the marriage between hindu muslim is looked upon especially if the girl is hindu.
As for taking Kareena as example, it is because she is the latest celebrity. Yes, Aamir did have two marriages with hindu women and they are also called love jihad on the internet and so also Srk’s. I am also deeply disturbed by this trend.
For the sake of the film, I hope the makers must have taken into consideration all these things.
Padmaavat was also bashed for insinuating something between the villain and the heroine though it was one sided.
And Reema and Kiran were not known as Reema Khan or Kiran Khan. If one converts just for the sake of pleasing the husband, it is not correct. If one converts out of conviction, it is different.
Entertainment was a flop. Producers of Baby were probably over-reporting but the difference was abnormally high with something like BOI’s 82cr to Taran’s 93-94cr. I think the truth may lie in the middle range. But still, I would not call the film a hit. Maybe above average at best.
I may be wrong but I think Aamir most probably has the best run with a string of winners before TOH. Varun Dhawan has very few under-performers as well in his short career.
US website takes down offensive article calling Priyanka Chopra a ‘global scam artist’
‘Upon further editorial review, we found this story did not meet our standards,’ said a note on the website.
2.0 Box Office Collections: Rajinikanth, Akshay Kumar film needs to earn Rs 600 crore, says analyst; here’s why
2.0 Box Office Collection: Directed by S Shankar and sequel to Robot, rajinikanth and Akshay Kumar starrer 2.0 has already crossed Rs 400 crore mark worldwide. The film’s entry into the Rs 200 crore (worldwide gross) club in the opening weekend is itself a feat for Indian films. However, made with a huge budget of over Rs 550 crore, the film has now entered into its second week and has already registered slow growth on the box office.
2.0 film collection day 1 (India market) stood at Rs 74 crore. Rajinikanth and Akshay Kumar starrer 2.0 has now marked Rs 425 crore gross collection worldwide.
“The film has earned Rs 135 crore net in 6 days in South India while it has earned Rs 119 cr net in northern belt. Though it has done a good business in Tamil Nadu, its performance at Andhra Pradesh, Telangana and Kerala box offices have not been up to the mark. Its gross India collection now stands at Rs 310 crore after 6 days,” told film critic and trade analyst Sumit Kadel to ZeeBiz.Com.
Kadel said that the film’s net overseas earning stood at Rs 115 crore. The film’s worldwide gross collection now stands at Rs 425 crore.
Sumit said that despite its good weekend performance, the film may not get the ‘Hit’ tag.
“The film needs minimum Rs 600 crore to get a ‘Hit’ tag. The film’s lifetime India collection may be around Rs 350-380 crore. It’s a hit in Hindi belt but a clear flop in South given the huge making budget,” said Kadel.
Kadel said that even if its global earning is taken together, the film’s performance is not up to the expectations.
“The film was released on around 12000 to 15000 screens globally. Lyca Productions have sold it to distributors/theatre owners at a very high price in India. Neither its South India collection nor its global collection justifies it as a ‘Hit’ film,” said Kadel.
The film has earned Rs 26 cr net (all languages) on Monday and Rs 20 crore net (all languages) on Tuesday in India. Given the working week, the film’s earning may only see a decline going ahead. It’s now up to the movie lovers to classify the movie as a ‘Hit’ or ‘Flop’ as the analyst verdict is already out now.
So much for “normal ticket rates”, a working day ticket price in a high end Delhi multiplex is ₹ 400 and beyond! Ditto here in Bangalore where its ₹ 320 on a Thursday (I watched Fantastic Beasts at the same PVR for ₹ 270 last Sunday). Yet again, BOI seems to be caught with its pants down.
Shankar must be beating his head hard. Rajni hardly gained from this film which was supposed to be his vehicle while Akshay gained immensely. What a twist! If China performs then it will be different and everyone will gain.
I beg to differ on Shankar. On Rajni, probably yes.
But Shankar benefited from 2.0. He made a movie which will at min recover the cost for the makers. Remember the cost doubled and this movie was never meant to be 500Cr. It was made for 300Cr.
Not many big movies can recover if the cost gets doubled in the making.
So Shankar will be mighty pleased. He bailed out the producers here. Audience has hailed 2.0 has Shankar’s film more than Rajni or Akshay. What more can one want. He is getting more credit than what Nitesh Tiwary got from Dangal.
He remains India’s top director along with Rajamouli and Hirani. He has already moved on to his next biggie Indian 2 with Kamal Hassan.
Nitesh Tiwary got plenty of credit for Dangal — from its own lead star, other co stars, from the film’s fans. It was the media probably that failed to highlight Tiwary’s contribution.
I don’t think it will be higher. It was at 11.5cr on Tuesday. I guess if it has remained stable, it may be at 10cr or slightly more. We’ll get the figures tomorrow morning. I guess it has gone past the 130cr mark today.
Still not sure about the Tamil numbers, this link seems to suggest it’s in good company, on the other hand it seems to be slipping fast at this point, and this is just Chennai:
they’re calling the trending no more than ‘fair’ which I think characterizes the Tamil as well. The problem is it can’t just be ‘fair’ for such a massive film. It needs big numbers minimally for two weeks. The Hindi version has done well or better but not stupendously. Still this would be fine if the South markets kept up. Not sure if this is happening as of yet.
The Chennai numbers are record breaking..sarkar did like 15cr by end of its runs and this is already at 13cr now…but the issue is with rest of TN..the B and C hasnt performed well..but I think even if they had the price of 100cr distribution share has killed it completely…
With its Hindi version only, Dharma Productions & AA Films’ presentation opened on a tremendous note and since then maintaining a strong pace. Over the 4-days extended opening weekend, it did the business of 97.25 crores with 20.25 crores on Thursday, 18 crores on Friday, 25 crores on Saturday & 34 crores on Sunday.
Then on weekdays, 2.0 faced a usual drop but still remained solid and minted the amount of 13.75 crores on Monday & 11.50 crores on Tuesday. On the next day i.e. Wednesday, after a further decline, 2.0 bagged the amount of 10.25 crores and raised 7 days total collection to 132.75 crores from 4000+ screens.
Including its all three versions- Hindi, Tamil & Telugu, the sequel to 2010’s Enthiran is running phenomenally. The movie has done the business of 310 crores nett (395 crores gross) nationwide from around 7000 screens, that included 234 crores in the 4-days weekend, 29 crores on Monday, 25 crores on Tuesday & 22 crores on Wednesday.
In the international market as well, 2.0 is performing excellently and has grossed approx. 522 crores globally including 127 crores gross from 2500+ screens in overseas.
‘Aquaman’ Projected To Have Highest Opening Ever For A DC Movie In China
Aquaman is already looking to be a force to be reckoned with stateside, but if current estimates deliver, it could also set a new record for DC films in China.
Aquaman hits later this month, and as of right now it is looking to make quite a splash overseas, specifically China. Current estimates are putting Aqumana’s box office projections in the $60 million and up range over the course of the opening three days (via Gavin Fang). Even when compared to Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice, who holds the current title for DC movies in China, if those projections hold Aquaman will surpass it to become the highest grossing DC movie ever in the country.
2.0 7th Day box office collections saw again good hold in its collections on Wednesday as fall in its collections from Tuesday was just 10-15% as it is again challenging to hit double digits
2.0 Box Office Collection Day 7
9-11 Crore nett Hindi Trade Figure
2.0 is already an Hit and How 2.0 performs on Second Friday when Kedarnath opens will determine how big of a hit is it going to be
2.0 Has A Strong First Week
Thursday 06 December 2018 09.30 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
2.0 (Hindi) had a noticeable drop on Wednesday as it dropped around 18% from the previous day but still it has put up strong first week numbers of 130 crore nett apprx. The film has sustained and for a South dubbed film it is exceptional.
The Monday hold was stronger than the rest of the weekdays but it is an extended week. The film should consolidate again over the second weekend as has found appreciation all over Bihar is the best maket followed by Delhi / UP. The lesser performance is Mumbai which maybe could have been little higher. The multiplexes could have done better in Mumbai and Pune
The film is on course for a certain 175 crore nett and the second Friday will tell if the film has a shot at 200 crore nett plus. The first week daily collections of 2.0 (Hindi) are as follows
Thursday – 20,00,00,000 apprx
Friday – 18,00,00,000 apprx
Saturday – 24,00,00,000 apprx
Sunday – 33,25,00,000 apprx
Monday – 13,50,00,000 apprx
Tuesday – 11,50,00,000 apprx
Wednesday – 9,50,00,000 apprx
TOTAL – 1,29,75,00,000 apprx
Note – The all India collections will be updated later on.
Aquaman preview showings have started in China. 102 NO is not even going to do 5m there. Unless chinese women faces hygiene issues like in India, v doubtful about Padman’s chances there.
Thugs of Hindostan, a 2018 Indian Hindi-language action adventure film written and directed by Aditya Chopra, has scored a December 28 China release. The film stars Amitabh Bachchan and China’s favorite Indian actor Aamir Khan. Produced on an estimated budget of US$29 million, Thugs of Hindostan is one of the most expensive Indian films. Set in 1795, the film follows a band of Thugs led by Khudabaksh Azaad, who aspires to free Hindostan (the Indian subcontinent) from the rule of the expanding British East India Company.
2.0 may actually finish at somewhere around 180-190 crore net in the Hindi version. definitely good for an Akshay Kumar film but the appreciation even in Hindi hasn’t come universally. it needed to do a lot better in Mumbai
Sushant Singh Rajput, who plays the male lead in the film, has been praised just as well for his captivating performance playing a Muslim boy in Kedarnath. While the film had quite a few bumps during its making, it seems that the end result is a delightful one, especially for Bollywood celebs. Now, the makers and the stars of the film can only hope that the general movie going audience too appreciates the film as well as the Bollywood celebs did. (Also Read: PIL seeking ban on the release of Kedarnath dismissed in Gujarat High Court – details inside)
This isn’t the only good news for team Kedarnath today. A PIL was filed against the film on December 5 accusing the project of encouraging love jihad and claiming that its release would hurt Hindu sentiments and cause law and order issues countrywide. However, the Bombay High Court has dismissed the petitioner’s request as folly and given the release of the film their go ahead.
How come real life love jihads like Kareena and Saif marriage did not create riots througout the country? Is not reality more influential than fiction?
Nowadays Kareena’s name appears as Kareena Kapoor Khan and their child has a muslim name. It is as well as converting. In the film the heroine may not have converted and thats why the makers are so confident. On the otherhnd, the hero might turn out to be a hindu adopted by muslim parents.
Let us wait for tomorrow.
LOL! Adding her husband’s last name to her own is not converting! Do you understand what religious conversion actually means? I doubt either of them are particularly religious anyway.
I know what religious conversion means. Adding Khan is like adding fuel to the fire to the already tense atmosphere. I go through internet comments and so i am saying this. How do we know whether she has converted or not? That is their personal matter. Just like Hema and Dharam’s.
Sanjana, I’m surprised to see someone like you using these terms so lackadaisically! The whole bogeyman behind ‘Love Jihad’ claims that it is an act of terrorism that forcibly and tortuously converts Hindu women to Islam. Does that in any way apply to Kareena, who is one of the most confident and least inhibited married heroines working in Indian cinema today and who shot afilm like Veere Di Wedding while pregnant? Would you call your favourite star Aamir’s marriage(s) to Hindu women love jihad?
Even if she did convert, which she obviously didn’t, I don’t see how that can be automatically termed terrorism (if there is a forcible and abusive conversion it is a totally different issue). India is a deeply patriarchal country where most married women are still expected to leave their family and customs and adopt their husband’s family and customs as their own. Why is it perfectly OK if, say, a Jain woman marries a Punjabi man in a Sikh ceremony and proceeds to cook meat for him despite having being vegetarian all her life (something I’ve seen happen in my social circle and be accepted without much comment) but not if a Hindu woman does so for a Muslim man?
Most of my non-Indian friends would be astonished by the fact that a married woman in India is expected to live with and attend to her husband’s parents, adapt completely to their way of life and ask them for permission for many simple things (which still happens in a large number of households) and term such relationships cruel and exploitative. Would you be willing to accept such a blanket label on all Indian marriages? Why then would you casually use the term Love Jihad to refer to all Hindu woman-Muslim man relationships?
Yes ever inter religion marriage may not be Love Jihaad. We should we careful in our choice of words as creating religious tension is what few politicians want.
I worded that poorly – I meant that ALL marriages in India can’t be generalised as exploitative based on such norms (just like ALL arranged marriages can’t be generalised as forced even though there is an element of immense social pressure involved in a lot of them). I agree with what you say.
I don’t understand what you are trying to say…if you’re saying that marriages where women are expected to unilaterally adapt everything their husband’s family want are unfair I do agree (hence my use of the term deeply patriarchal).
However what I wanted to point out was
A) You can’t call a woman adopting her husband’s customs terrorism when it is basically a traditional expectation that is common across ALL religions in India
B) you can’t generalise all Hindu-Muslim marriages as love jihad just like (obviously) you can’t generalise all Indian marriages as oppressive and exploitative
C) it is hypocritical for Indian society to object to a woman adopting her husband’s customs on an inter-religious level alone when they are perfectly accepting of it (and in fact expect it) in all other cases
This is your words – “Most of my non-Indian friends would be astonished by the fact that a married woman in India is expected to live with and attend to her husband’s parents, adapt completely to their way of life and ask them for permission for many simple things (which still happens in a large number of households) and term such relationships cruel and exploitative. Would you be willing to accept such a blanket label on all Indian marriages? ”
My point is – YES, a blanket label of exploitation is not an understatement for such ‘simple’ scenarios. Does ur ‘inquiring’ mind get it now?
My reply was not posted. So I am typing it once again.
Aamir and Srk. Their marriages are also called love jihad on internet.
Kareena’as example was the recent one. So I took that name.
I used that term because that is how these marriages are looked by many. Though I dont support this.
And why you are bringing your favourite aamir? That is not required. Kareena is also my favourite and I supported her many times on this blog.
When I used that term, it was in reply to the film being called a love jihad them ed one. So my reply was in the same coin.
You are clearly a thoughtful person from the comments you make and I didn’t think you would use such offensive terms, so that’s why I made that remark. Just because some rabble-rousers use these words casually it doesn’t mean we need to. Peace!
@ Naveen — Why bring in Aamir here? Any chance to… 😏Yes, that shower line from Aamir was dumb, but perhaps it was intentional, the show being KWK. Karan wants controversial cheesy stuff. So.
Have not watched the KWK episode with Saif and Sara. Not watching too many of Karan’s ’s show these days. Watched the Aamir episode, only, to be honest; since he is a favourite. I forgive his occasional stupidities.
I loved watching Aamir and cousin Nuzhat in Komal Nahata’s show. Never cheesy,good fun. Also liked Komal’s show with Katrina and the TZH director, Ali Abbas Zafar. The director comes across as a thoughtful guy with a quiet sense of humour. And Katrina too came across as a fun person. She seems to have loosened up over the years.
Sara comes across as a bright young kid. Watched her in two interviews, one with Anupama and another one. Good for her, getting all these chances to showcase herself before her films release. Wish other newbies could get such opportunities.
Can we have a thread for this upcoming film? I sense a good film, a brand new heroine who is going to be worth it. One can see in her profile, a resemblance to her mother Amrita. In her interviews she comes across as sensible and respectful.
I have to say I find the premise of this film to be in very bad taste. Why use a real tragedy that cost people their lives as base for a fictional plot and suggest it happened because of some kind of a lover’s spat?
Having said that, Sara is a refreshing change from Bollywood’s interchangeable model-turned-actress assembly line. I watched KWK for the first time in a very long time for her and I thought she handled Saif’s boorishness with maturity and humour. He came across as a terrible, immature father and had none of the royal sophistication that he tried hard to project; his daughter at 25 was far more dignified!
#2Point0 sets new benchmarks… * Is now second highest grossing *Hindi dubbed* film, surpassing *lifetime biz* of #Baahubali [first part]. * Rajnikanth’s highest grossing film ever [#Hindi]. * Will emerge Akshay Kumar’s highest grossing film today [Thu; Day 8]. HINDI version.
Forget inter religious. Even inercaste marriages are not accepted. In Telengana a boy was killed in front of many for doing just that. It is only one of the examples. Only the very rich celebrities are protected from being lynched for marrying outside caste and religion.
Intercaste marriages are not accepted, forget inter religious ones.
When we warm up to intercaste marriages, half the problem will be solved.
Marriages should be left to the boy and girl. But films like DDLj propagate marriage with the consent of the family which rarely happens. It happens only in films. That is why a Sairat is celebrated for bringing out the raw realities to the fore.
This is true! Unlike other countries (not just in Europe but also in Asia and Africa) where such rigid norms have eased away with time and with increase in income/ cultural exposure they have managed to stubbornly persist in India. I read an illuminating survey about how rare inter-caste marriage still is and how little it is growing with time but I can’t find it now.
I think the rich are some of the most caste and status conscious people and put even more pressure on their children to make strategic alliances that benefit them and make them look good within whichever business community they belong to. And there are many cases of rich families intimidating, abusing and even killing the ‘unsuitable’ grooms their daughters chose.
In that sense, Bollywood and it’s many fluid inter caste/ religion (and now interracial marriages) are a rare and welcome beacon of cosmopolitanism in the country. And before people say it’s only one-sided, let’s not forget that Sussane Roshan married Hrithik and Soha married Kunal Khemu, for instance.
Problem with ddlj is that the boy had to cunningly suck up to the girl’s family to get the job done. Also he had an unreal devta like father in the first place … talk abt realism in chopra/johar universe.
BTW, Akshay’s Dhadkan was at the other end of girl’s choice not being as good as father’s choice. The movie was quite a big thing then at smaller centres.
#2Point0 sets new benchmarks… * Is now second highest grossing *Hindi dubbed* film, surpassing *lifetime biz* of #Baahubali [first part]. * Rajnikanth’s highest grossing film ever [#Hindi]. * Will emerge Akshay Kumar’s highest grossing film today [Thu; Day 8]. HINDI version.
Where Does The Credit Of The Hindi Version Of 2.0 Go
Thursday 06 December 2018 13.30 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
Q. Where does the credit go for the Hindi version of 2.0 you have said Akshay Kumar as its dubbed but Bahubali – The Conclusion with no stars did even bigger so its the content of the film really and not Akshay Kumar?
Shahid Butt
A. See obviously when a film works in the long run then its content. The point that was made is that till date all dubbed films released in Hindi markets have been driven by Mumbai circuit. Bahubali – The Conclusion is the only exception which had business which was uniform but that had huge brand value by the time it released. Even the first Bahubali film had 50% business from Mumbai on day one. 2.0 was being led by Delhi / UP, East Punjab, Rajasthan and Bihar and this is where Akshay Kumar has a strong market so its not hard to work out that he is the reason why this dubbed film behaved differently.
Q. I would just like to point out to you that Rajnikant may have been a big star five years ago in Tamil Nadu but now younger stars have taken over and lead at the box office in Tamil Nadu and it could be that your calculations are wrong and the Tamil Nadu trade is spot on and 13 crore is the first day gross for 2.0.
S. Kurusar
A. You may be right and there may be bigger younger stars due to the age factor but we are not really going into who is the biggest star in Tamil Nadu as you may know better. Filmwatchers there will have a good idea of that. Even if others have taken over nobody can take away the fact that Rajnikant as been huge in TN since 1980 which is a long time to be at the at top or now near the top as you put it. As for box office numbers it does not matter who is number one or number two as you compare collections and not stars.
It is difficult to make too many comments against another industry as our mailbox will be flooded that its boxofficeHINDI and not boxofficeINDIA as has happened before. Lets just say there is an issue with reporting, as figures going around do not match cinema collections which is the only way to track box office as its done across the world. It seems that figures are worked through shares when shares should be worked out from the collections and a lot extra is lumped on day one but that extra does not seem to be the same for all films. There was a Tamil film released on Diwali and the GROSS figures going around for that was 33 crore and for 2.0 it was 13 crore but from actual cinema numbers this is impossible. There are limited cinema DCR’s (daily collections reports) in Tamil Nadu but the ones which are there were at best 60% in favour of the Diwali release but then some were the same. But the reported GROSS figures are almost 300% more for the Diwali release. It is the same state so you are not going to have films collecting similar at some places and then 200-300% gap in others. The only way this sort of gap comes is when the release size is lopsided or a huge difference in screenings at places which should not be the case here as 2.0 itself is a huge film. There are a lot more cinema collections after the week is out so a better judgement can be made but looking at what cinema collections are available at present it is certain that if the Diwali release was 33 crore then 2.0 is not 13 crore and if 2.0 is 13 crore then the Diwali release is not 33 crore. This even a five year can make out by comparing cinema numbers. The industry should come out of tracking through shares as it will always be off as far as actual collections go. The real cinema data for Tamil Nadu is limited on a daily basis but a much wider sample is available when the week is out so if the analysts in the state have the access and work through them then there will be more realistic numbers. This is just an observation from the outside and not about Hindi film industry being better than the Tamil industry.
Hindi
Shankar 30% – sequel, TV factor
Akshay Kumar 50% – Hindi star
Rajni 20% – opened Robot to 5Cr? And has minimal stardom in North
South, all versions…
Shankar 45%, Rajni 45% – both driving the collections down South
Akshay 10% – the residual South business lost by having less Hindi prints replaced by regional versions.
Akshay’s all India contribution 10Cr (50% of opening day, North) + 10% of regional net whatever that is (64-20 = 44*10% = 4.4Cr, South). Opening day = 14.4Cr for Akshay, considering it’s Thursday that’s decent enough.
This second answer is so spot on specially the sarkar part…2.0 did more than sarkar in Chennai city on day 1 and did only 16cr gross as per ABO but sarkar did 33 cr gross with a lesser Chennai number. I had pointed this out that I have never seen such a thing in kollywood before and i have followed this market now for over 7 years…the BW numbers also indicate that Chennai was higher for 2.0…I can understand post day 1 the smaller towns didnt go for 2.0 due to WOM..but on day 1 a rajni Shankar movie releasing wide and doing better in Chennai but not in TN doesnt make any sense..and it’s not that it was falling short by 1 cr…it was a good 17cr lower than sarkar for day 1…I have raked my brains on this and have left at that as there is obviously no way to know the real number..but that day 1 TN number still rankles me whenever I think of it..quite bizarre that BOI also talked about the same thing.
I can only say this. Boi may be right in implying Sarkar team had done a Rakesh Roshan with numbers. But that does not mean we have to accept the 2.0 numbers with blind faith either. Indian BO is a system of abuse, and everyone abuses it to various degrees. 2.0 numbers are likely to be as much bull as Ra.One numbers were.
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2.0 Week One All India GROSS – Hindi Markets Set For 50%
Thursday 06 December 2018 15.30 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
2.0 had GROSS of 362 crore apprx in India in seven days with the Hindi markets contributing around 47% of the all India business. This should eventually go over to around 50%. The contribution of Bahubali – The conclusion was 46% for the Hindi markets but that is because the home market of Bahubali – The Conclusion (Andhra) has bigger potential than the home market of 2.0 (Tamil Nadu)
If the film is right than the Hindi markets do add to these South Indian films. Only five South Indian films have crossed 300 crore worldwide and all have Hindi releases. Obviously the South films cant be the normal films about a youth in Hyderabad or Chennai be it action or love story genre but if the scale is bigger and does not give the feel of regionality then there is potential for business in Hindi markets.
2.0 will hit the 500 crore mark worldwide it its extended first week with figures standing at 480 crore apprx in seven days. The break down of the India GROSS business in week one is as follows..
Hindi Markets – 170 crore (including Tamil and Telugu versions playing in Hindi circuits)
Tamil Nadu – 75 crore
Nizam / Andhra – 64 crore (Not including Marathawada which is a part of this circuit for the regular Hindi film. For this film Marathawada has been put in Hindi markets).
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Excel Entertainment’s Ritesh Sidhwani said, “I don’t think it is a clash or a fight for the space. I think there is enough space. The reason we’re coming on the same date is because it is an important festive date for south and we’re releasing in four different south Indian languages. We couldn’t have delayed it.”
“We’re not aiming to go as wide as ‘Zero’ in the north Indian market. So there will be no clash.”
Excel Entertainment, known for commercial Hindi drama films, such as ‘Rock On!! 2‘, ‘Raees‘, ‘Fukrey‘ series, ‘Gold‘ and many more, is now backing up ‘KGF‘ which is a Kannada film. Sidhwani says cinema has overcome the language barrier.
Golden Globes 2019 complete list of nominations: A Star is Born, Black Panther, Bohemian Rhapsody lead the way
The Golden Globe nominations were announced on Thursday, with A Star is Born, Mary Poppins Returns leading the race.
Can anybody explain why India is virtually absent from the international awards stage?
A couple of films in the late fifties, one Salaam Bombay in the eighties, three Indian film nominations in the noghties ( Lagaan oscar nomination and Monsoon Wedding Golden Globes nom, both in 2002; RDB nomination at BAFTA 2007). One could list on half a page, the list of Indian nominations. Have we won anything ?
Satyajit Ray was given an honorary Oscar before his death, right?
Our Indian film industry is over a hundred years old. Surely we have produced some gems. Off the top of my head I could name at least ten terrific films that entertained and provoked the viewer’s interest.
Why don’t we feature alongside films from Germany ( have watched the GG nominated Goodbye Lenin), Austria ( watched the exquisite and intense Amour), Iran, China (Crouching Tiger…)….
I don’t mean this in a bad way but generally the west views indian films with very little respect. Also the musical format is frowned upon. Indian films even amongst NRI’s get polarised views. How I stereotypically dirade every indian serial as one which is my ignorance is how many think of indian films. Admitting to liking indian films can be seen as uncool. Just my experience. So even my white friend who loves cricket and curries laughs at the synopsis of Lagaan. Just like how I laugh at how in general Caucasian parents kick their kids out of their homes or ask for rent, generally a lot of taboo is attached with indian films.
I’ll even extend this to India as a tourist destination. It’s criminal how many people I’ve met who shudder at the thought of going to India because of stories they’ve heard. India doesn’t do marketing well enough. It’s a magical country and films are much more guilty pleasures and acquired tastes for many 20-30 somethings. I have a huge family…some 30 first cousins. They’ll all know Bachchan or SRK. Ask them the last major film they saw from India and how, I reckon it will be TV and not cinema for 90% of them. If it’s not culturally interwoven for NRI, expecting non NRI is a distant dream.
But Indian cinema does have foreign fans too. I know some Germans, Brazilians, Russians …all interested enough. Besides other countries, as we see these days.
But this is a miniscule minority. I’ve lived in Munich for 6 months…my means to watch an indian movie was to join a club (embarrassing enough whilst living with an Irish guy) and watching a film every now and then. Otherwise it’s a very small market. This idea that foreign people watch Indian films in vast sums is nothing more than a dream, dreamt up by SRK fans in mid 2000’s that Germany, Austria etc is full of SRK fans.
These markets still are driven in the main by NRI’s, more than likely your infosys, genpact indian offshore/onshore employees of big companies. Not your traditional Caucasian Brazilian, German friends. Only in London or major American cities will you see a wider demographic and even this is like 1-2%, rest will be of indian origin.
This is why China, Japan, Malaysia etc are so interesting to understand for indian producers. Also parts of Africa, Turkey etc. These are on the whole demographic of people with situations similar to Indians so films will more likely resonate their.
Growth in UK is over. So many Indians now it can’t grow more. The only other option is stuff like Slumdog Millionaire where India co produces stuff like this with West to entice audience in. Otherwise what you see is a very niche market that is pretty much negligible unless we talk of China.
US has growth but it seems here the South Indian movies are seeing it not Bollywood.
Bottom line it’s not a country that has been prolific in producing quality cinema in the eyes of the non Indians. Some of it is ignorance, some truth, some pure disinterest in song and dance.
I’m no expert here on this topic. I would love to hear Saket’s view here.
Indian food travels well, so do skill sets and intelligence of indian education but movies have a huge mountain to climb. And I doubt I would say this is just an indian issue. Even these European countries’ cinema is hardly much more popular. At least Indian films release in UK in huge volumes. Street shops sell dvds in volumes. But I hardly see any European cinema in show listings, I’d have to go to an arthouse cinema for that.
A film like Peepli Live — one of my favourite films (and not because Aamir produced it) — love its black humour,the topic about rural migration. There was only a background song. Or a film like The Lunchbox. Deliciously sweet and funny. Why are such films never in the running?
As Jay says, we dont promote our films as much as it should be. There are festival films like Manto which gets screenings at international film festivals. Slightly commercial films or hardcore commercial films have little chance as they are hampered by songs and some other factors.
Although a tad too late, yet today I have finally managed to watch TOH. And Aamir fans might be upset at me for my opinion on it and his acting but still i’ll go ahead and say TOH to be ‘worse’ than ‘Mela’!! It might sound sacrilegious to Aamir fans but I consider Dhoom 3 to be infinitely better than TOH. What did Aamir see in such a ‘horrendous’ script including his role which was just too mechanical and devoid of any shade whatsoever as i was really flabbergasted by the movie, its ‘infantile’ premise, unimaginative screenplay and horrible dialogues despite going with very low expectations after all the bashings the movie received.
And biggest shock for me is that Aamir spent 2 years on such a piece of garbage which has nothing at all, not a single saving grace in the entire movie. It is made in such a Haphazard manner as if the entire script was written just in the wake of Bahubali’s phenomenal success without any deep thought going into it. There was nothing in the story which could justify the first time coming together of 2 legends of Indian film industry, just an absolutely wasted opportunity by YRF, VK Acharya and Aamir himself as such opportunities don’t come time and again. One thing i have deduced from the debacle of TOH is that Aamir does not have a grip on ‘fantastical’ stuff as is evident from his past failures in Mela as well. He has an exceptional gift of dealing in human drama and stories which are human, real and relatable which is evident by his stellar films which revolve mostly around these basic themes. This purple patch had to come to an end sooner or later as it was too long a period for any artist not to undergo failure of any sort since Mela in 2000!! But i hope and wish this setback will motivate Aamir to come back with a bang as he did in 2001 by coming up with 2 all time classics in the form of Lagaan and DCH.
I was planning on watching it in London couple weeks back…but after the negative reviews I just didn’t have the enthusiasm to watch it. I’ll probably watch it when it comes on TV or something…but from the trailers it didn’t look as bad as Mela…I mean…Mela was horrendous piece of cinema. lol. I’m really curious how Aamir will go about this failure…I’m glad he’s accepted it as a failure..now I’m curious what his next plan of action is going to be.
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December 3, 2018 at 3:32 AM
http://andhraboxoffice.com/info.aspx?id=5322&cid=6&fid=6014
ABO has India numbers as 240cr gross for 4 days..it has done around 80cr gross on Sunday…
At the risk of being panned again i will say that IMO the rest of India gross is deflated here. It cannot be 102cr…the net is around 94cr so gross will be around 120cr without 3D glass cost….with glass cost it will be around 125cr+
ABO will put up the worldwide figure by evening…
BW yet to release Tamil numbers
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December 3, 2018 at 3:36 AM
Let’s see how many have the guts and temerity to question this open ‘fudging’?? Especially ‘the Jaiswals & kadels’ the super experts on box-office!!
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December 3, 2018 at 3:44 AM
I assume you are talking about the lyca numbers. They are very Bollywood centric analyst..they will not have any figures..the Bollywood numbers seem ok…only BW and ABO will question..that too ABO will question only telugu and BW will question Tamil…no one knows the breakup of lyca numbers..even in best case scenario it wont be more than 325cr gross..so Lyca is just throwing random numbers surely
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December 3, 2018 at 3:48 AM
Yes, i was talking about flagrant overreporting of Lyca.
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December 3, 2018 at 3:41 AM
Myselfaamir- regarding your query has any movie collected 450 cr after the first weekend other than bahubali 2 worldwide….I dont think so apart from.secret superstar and dangal…but movies dont usually have 3 languages to gross from like bahubali 2..as I said the only reason why I didnt write off the movie after day 2 was due to the wom..and in a sense there has been an uptick on day 3 and day 4. If it is wrong to be optimistic then I am at fault..but it’s the wom that is reason for optimism not any fandom..
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December 3, 2018 at 3:51 AM
No, your calculation was for the first 4 days and you were saying it wasn’t impossible for 2.0 to get to 800!
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December 3, 2018 at 3:56 AM
It still isnt..its hard but not out of bounds….the wom is quite good..if it has done 300 cr till Sunday which seems to be case then getting 450cr with good trending across the world is not impossible..
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December 3, 2018 at 5:30 AM
Again your calculation is going haywire as to get to 800, it’d require 500 not 450!! Second, the total budget was around 540-550 and if P&A is added, then it’d certainly be North of 600 at the bare minimum, so it would need at the very least 800 to 900 NET not gross to get the hit tag.
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December 3, 2018 at 5:40 AM
Its gross not net…read…750 to 800 cr gross needed…south dont even record net collections..they know only share and gross…
http://andhraboxoffice.com/info.aspx?id=4118&cid=8&fid=6014
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December 3, 2018 at 5:41 AM
I meant read the link
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December 3, 2018 at 5:44 AM
I wasn’t asking you to provide any link but was just stating the obvious. And all my assumptions are based on the budget of 2.0.
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December 3, 2018 at 5:56 AM
The producers have sold it to distributor for a price..the hit tag is based on that price…not on the budget..the rest they recover from ancillary rights…so for example kjo has bought hindi version rights for 77cr and movie is a hit at 170cr in hindi version…most producers sell to distributors lesser than budget as they have non theatrical recoveries
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December 3, 2018 at 3:51 AM
https://www.outlookindia.com/blog/story/thugs-of-hindostan-why-is-aamir-khan-sorry-nobody-is-infallible-at-the-box-offic/4005
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December 3, 2018 at 3:56 AM
Ttheir aim is to get at Baahubali 2. A sort of prestige war. So every site is overreporting because there are no checks and only checks.
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December 3, 2018 at 3:59 AM
https://m.behindwoods.com/tamil-movies/2-0/2-0-box-office-dec-02.html
Meanwhile BW has reported the 4 day Chennai number as 10cr…sarkar had 10cr in 6 days in Chennai city if I remember correctly but TN grosses for this are lower than sarkar in both BOI and ABO…that’s very strange
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December 3, 2018 at 4:06 AM
I am reposting Jay’s comment here
It’s a joke but it’s obvious people in the industry want it this way. It gives a certain get out of jail free card to them to use whenever they want. I doubt the general public gives a crap too.
This is like Narcos where the cartel have paid off everyone in the system and they are all happy to play along. A few fools like me come along thinking they can help but it’s pointless.
We are all happy with wrong information. The day everyone fights for no tolerance I’ll wake up. But when reasonable folk accept this useless box office system I might as well just stick to watching films instead of giving myself weekly headaches over collections.
I’ll follow China and US. India can keep blasting out it’s corrupted numbers…
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December 3, 2018 at 4:12 AM
Well said Jay.
I hv a chance to catch up with 2.0 today evening. Surprisingly, advance is good for evening shows today, didnt get the tickets i usually prefer. Not too many hindi shows running here though.
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December 3, 2018 at 4:12 AM
Where are you located Marcus?
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December 3, 2018 at 4:17 AM
Bengaluru
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December 3, 2018 at 4:54 AM
enjoy and review.
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December 3, 2018 at 4:12 AM
This is set to do 200 cr in hindi now…
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December 3, 2018 at 4:19 AM
Yes. 200crr seems to be lock now. Good trending
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December 3, 2018 at 4:26 AM
Good for Naveen! And Akshay Kumar! This might trend even better than people expect if it’s 3D only deal. 200Cr is very possible.
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December 3, 2018 at 4:34 AM
Now there will be 3.0 soon with akshay or without akshay.
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December 3, 2018 at 4:22 AM
On Twitter and in general.
I said during metoo campaign that it was a very poor medium to use. Metoo is practically over from what I can see. If a serious opinion wants to be heard, Twitter is not the medium.
On the flip side, it’s use is growing daily. We all use it here for certain purposes. It’s definitely harmed TOH IMO but not to completely kill it…apparently I did that, not Twitter LOL!
I maintain it is better TOH completely fell like it did than scrabble to 300Cr. Any level of respectability would have given this VKA reason to rejoice, now we can put him to history.
Twitter has it’s uses. People claiming it hasn’t harmed TOH need to wake up soon. Twitter is a multi billion dollar company that is used daily by every media outlet in the world. It is how news travels today or one such way amongst many. It ‘can’ create a fictious view of things. How something so perverse like metoo found it’s way their is beyond me. Film trolling is fine by me. End of the day a good film will survive. TOH didn’t for many reasons other than Twitter.
Enough of my rant, I actually have work to do where my numbers will actually reconcile to a ledger or something!
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December 3, 2018 at 4:42 AM
300 crore would have been as underwhelming for toh as a flop.
Only 400 crore would have given it some respect.
There is still a possibility that chinese may accept it and make Naveen and his new found friends a bit unhappy.
Not yet time for aamir to retire and take up another job!
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December 3, 2018 at 4:56 AM
Whatever the number for respectability! Add 10÷ to 300Cr then another 10÷ and another 10÷. We get 400Cr!
TOH is done unless anyone didn’t watch it cos of me, I’ll buy them the best ticket for London showing! But they’ll pay for the flight and hotel LOL.
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December 3, 2018 at 4:58 AM
Is it still running in London?
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December 3, 2018 at 5:11 AM
Hahaha you caught me. No it isn’t! That’s not very surprising at all.
So if you want I will buy a ticket for 2.0 or Aamir’s next release in 2025! It’s the only kind hearted gesture I will offer.
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December 3, 2018 at 5:15 AM
China.
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December 3, 2018 at 5:19 AM
That will not be the same film I saw! I want these people to see the same film I saw!
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December 3, 2018 at 4:35 AM
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December 3, 2018 at 4:51 AM
Crackers are burst even now during marriages and other religious functions.
In tamilnadu I have observed crackers being burst during funeral processions and boys dancing. It is called some kootthu. Brahmin funeral processions are silent affairs and hurried ones.
If they become too expensive, people will stop buying them. Atleast, the poor.
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December 3, 2018 at 5:18 AM
https://boxofficeindia.com/report-details.php?articleid=4486
380cr gross worldwide..overseas is 13mn…they revised the India net downwards…didnt understand the mysore reference though…
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December 3, 2018 at 6:35 AM
https://boxofficeindia.com/report-details.php?articleid=4486
All India NETT : 95 Cr
All India NETT (All versions) : 229 Cr
All India GROSS : 291 Cr
Worldwide GROSS : 380 Cr
Hindi version clearly driving the film with over 41% share in collections while on day 1 the Hindi version share was barely 31%. Akshay Kumar seems to be a huge benefactor & biggest gainer from 2.0
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December 3, 2018 at 9:02 AM
Munna is having fun predicting 2.0 box office. First thread 2.0 he guessed first day collections. Now he is going up from 201 to 202Cr. Very aggressive prediction change for LT. 0.5% increase…
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December 3, 2018 at 12:35 PM
haha..it is somewhat of software version convention.
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December 3, 2018 at 9:07 AM
Watched Tumbbad. Hands down the best film of the year. As a cinematic experience, it’s right up there with the very best Hindi films ever made. Will write a detailed review later. This film absolutely deserves every single accolade that comes its way.
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December 3, 2018 at 9:34 AM
I’ve been prolific this year. Don’t watch more than 3-4 Bollywood films a year in theatre, this year it’s been 7.
My rank
Raazi
Badhaai Ho
Manmarziyaan
Sanju
Hitchki (tv)
Padmaavat
TOH
Veere Di Wedding
I’m happy with that but I would count Narcos 1-3, This Is Us 1-2, Homeland S7, Power 1-5, Bodyguard, Sacred Games, Haunting of Hill House all as more productive use of my time. So TV > cinema this year for me.
Unless Zero is the surprise in a small package I doubt I’ll be adding to my movie list.
Best Hollywood film of year. Mi6 hands down.
Worst experience in theatre Equalizer 2. Zzzzz. Biggest disappointment- no surprises here with TOH.
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December 3, 2018 at 9:46 AM
TV, these days, is any day better than cinema. Except for the odd film that’s so brilliant, it doesn’t require the length of time available on a streaming series. I still have to watch a few films before making a final list but don’t think any film is topping Tumbbad this year.
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December 3, 2018 at 10:29 AM
No experience can match that of watching a movie on a big screen, esp if its Imax. Movies for me work better than TV shows as they get it done with in 120-150 minutes unlike web series which go on & on with endless seasons and induce snooze beyond a certain limit.
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December 3, 2018 at 10:33 AM
I was very much a naysayer for many years. But some of these shows are extraordinary each episode…that itself is not easy. Like Narcos S3 just episode 6 and 9 alone one can watch as a movie experience.
And I agree the right film will always trump TV but it’s very rare nowadays.
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December 3, 2018 at 10:36 AM
Yeah. I loved Sherlock, enjoyed Prison Break season 1 & 2 (until it went bust) and am quite enjoying Breaking Bad and Stranger Things for now. However, much of this still remains my mobile or Laptop hobby watch and not the kinda content that’s made the kind of impact some of the Nolan, Sorcese, David Fincher or Spielberg films made on the big screen.
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December 3, 2018 at 4:55 PM
I will go to cinema to see the work of an auteur. Films like Interstellar, Dunkirk etc need to be watched in cinema halls.
But that said, TV shows have the best writing in view today. They have the space to expand on content, to provide background stories, elaborate themes etc. So in a way they are richer, in terms of content. And they also need to be visually enticing as well. Sherlock & Sacred Games both are visually very strong.
In a nutshell, unless it’s the work of a great director, I’m not interested in watching it in theatres.
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December 3, 2018 at 10:51 AM
https://www.addatoday.com/2018/12/20-hindi-5th-day-monday-collection.html?m=1
13-14Cr hold is huge here. Only 35% lower than first day is a big hold. First week heading to 140-145Cr here. 200Cr should be very comfortable, possibly inside 2 weeks, certainly by 3rd weekend if the rest of first weeks weekdays hit double digits.
Easily Akshay Kumar’s biggest grosser ever- inside EXTENDED ONE WEEK!
This will go past SRK’s biggest ever grosser so pressure on Zero!
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December 3, 2018 at 11:01 AM
If this actually opened as per expectations (25-30Cr+) it would have challenged 300Cr, as the WOM is very strong. And really the economics of the film would have been a mute point with no f ups in delays. Genuine blockbuster looks like at least in Hindi.
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December 3, 2018 at 11:25 AM
TOH does 45 Lacs INR in first weekend in Turkey.Around 55% of SS’s weekend in Turkish Lira making it the second highest weekend for an Indian movie in Turkey in INR as well as TL ahead of Dangal. TL has dropped otherwise weekend cld have been in 55-60Lacs range.It opened on much lesser screens than SS with almost zero publicity there while for SS Aamir himself went there.Hope China does much better and Aamir goes for publicity there.
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December 3, 2018 at 11:35 AM
Now many Bollywood producers and directors are going to cash in on this thing.
Take one huge bollywood star and take from from the south
Capture both markets successfully in a mass-friendly subject
earn 100s of crores within the first weekend
and end up with 400-500 crores even if the budget is at 150 crores
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December 3, 2018 at 11:40 AM
I’d take Andhadhun as the best Hindi film of 2018
On Hollywood, I’ll take A Quiet Place and Searching above anything else I’ve seen this year. Two great concepts carried out amazingly well!
Bohemian Rhapsody – Great medley of songs and a towering performance from the lead
Incredibles 2 and Coco were both visual delights and very entertaining storylines
But 2.0 is the most fun I’ve had recently watching a Hindi film.
Stree was also very good
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December 3, 2018 at 11:45 AM
I wanted to watch Andhadhun but it hardly played. I haven’t watched a lot of Hollywood. Now I feel like I should be watching 2.0 but I have no time.
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December 3, 2018 at 12:17 PM
Watch Tumbbad. I like Andhadhun a lot and also Manmarziyan but Tumbbad is on a different level.
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December 3, 2018 at 11:42 AM
Reading between the lines it seems ticket prices here were not raised on average to TOH levels or more. I still think the biggest issue for TOH after the film itself was the ticket prices. One has to deliver on that promise. That person who leaked should be fired.
And I suspect Zero team will have learnt that just raising prices is not smart economics. The increase has to be justified not guess work.
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December 3, 2018 at 11:20 PM
2.0 ticket prices are not same as that as BH. But its neither as high as ToH.
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December 3, 2018 at 11:49 AM
28th December.TOH may open in China means 50 days after it’s domestic release.
Holiday period (Dec 30-Jan1)but big HW releases also there.I hope it does well.Fingers crossed.I hope it benefits from holidays.
https://twitter.com/gavinfeng97/status/1069533150966013952
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December 3, 2018 at 11:54 AM
Let’s hope for better news from China. What are opening expectations?
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December 3, 2018 at 11:22 PM
I am expecting average audience acceptance in China market. In terms of figures i wud say 50m over first 5 days which is an extended holiday weekend and an end total of 70-75m. Maybe it can do more, not wont bet my money on it.
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December 3, 2018 at 9:17 PM
I am encouraged by the Turkish response to TOH. From whatever is understood thru twitter, the film seems to have been liked to an extent. Ditto in Russia. They had a few special shows. I am hoping that China does not reject TOH totally like most of India. In any case, the Indian rejection is part manipulation.
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December 3, 2018 at 9:23 PM
What is needed is Aamir to make a promotional tour to china for a few days before the release.
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December 3, 2018 at 9:24 PM
And just read this!
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December 3, 2018 at 9:41 PM
Well, that is a smart way to attend, say hello to his Chinese fans ( and he does seem to have made a deep connection with fans there; have followed up reports from insiders) — and hopefully be as honest with them as possible without jeopardising the film’s chances. Chinese distributors will not be happy if he goes around apologising for the film like in India. But Aamir needs to speak sincerely about TOH. Tricky.
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December 3, 2018 at 9:44 PM
Why will be apologize in China???
His apology was targeted to part of his indian fans like Jay, whose expectations were not met.
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December 3, 2018 at 9:50 PM
This is a great release date for ToH. Just goes on to show how big Aamir is in China.
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December 3, 2018 at 12:02 PM
Jayshah I am very skeptical and dont know what to expect.Pre screening Maoyan score might give an idea but it might have a good advantage of holidays infact 4 holidays straight away after friday so if WOM is OK then we might be looking at 40-50M$ 5 day weekend but I am not aware of other HW releases happening at that time in China.
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December 3, 2018 at 12:05 PM
I need to interact with Chinese on their forum to get an idea.I wld update here after their feedback.
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December 3, 2018 at 3:19 PM
Wow, so you learnt Chinese now?
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December 3, 2018 at 9:05 PM
Ever heard of something called google translate?
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December 4, 2018 at 2:19 AM
It is an English forum and I can read and write English.Gavin is also a member there. Btw there is no language called Chinese.Language is Mandarin.
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December 3, 2018 at 12:20 PM
@Rahul, Sanjana – Dangal had a male lead in a non traditional sense. It’s setting was not lavish, the costs are a fraction of 2.0. And coming after Sultan not with a director of Shankar’s pedigree it’s a feat itself.
2.0 is getting Hindi success mainly through Akshay’s visibility. Robot did 20Cr, not bad in 2010. But opening could have been higher. It’s working (without seeing it) I assume on Akshay’s name + content + 3D. It’s not really comparable to Dangal at all. Better to compare with TOH, scale wise or D3, itself a sequel.
2.0 heading to 200Cr+ with no holiday benefit is no joke either, coupled with the split in India suggests more about Rajni’s reducing stardom and Akshay’s gaining. This dynamic others can maybe explain as BB (both) were pan Indian successes, here north is leading the performance, South not – surely that is unusual.
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December 3, 2018 at 12:35 PM
My Bollywood Report Card so far:
The Disappointments
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1) Thugs Of Hindostan
2) Bhavesh Joshi
3) Sanju
The Average
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4) Raazi
The Good/Very Good
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5) Pataakha
6) Stree
7) Mukkabaaz
8) Andhadhun
9) Manmarziyan
The Exceptional
——————————-
10) Tumbbad
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December 3, 2018 at 12:37 PM
I can’t wait to see where you put Zero in this list
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December 3, 2018 at 12:45 PM
Judging by my reaction to Tanu Weds Manu it’s not likely to feature high up on the list.
I could barely watch 30 mins of TWM. A complete turn off for me. Excruciatingly unfunny, when it was trying to be funny.
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December 3, 2018 at 1:02 PM
You haven’t stayed in North (Up, Bihar)?
Aanand L Rai’s movies are very north oriented, lower middle class in milieu.
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December 3, 2018 at 4:43 PM
It’s not about the milieu. I loved Mukkabaaz and GoW. But TWM tries too hard to be funny, especially with Kangana playing a free-spirited gundi in the film. I found it totally fake and ridiculous. If you don’t buy into Kangana’s character, you don’t buy into the film either.
Happy Bhaag Jaayegi, another Anand L Rai production, made very little sense as a script and was not particularly funny either. Apart from a spirited Jimmy Shergill.
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December 3, 2018 at 4:55 PM
Anand L Rai is one of the best producers in Bollywood, period irrespective of one likes his movies or not.
1) Tanu Weds Manu
2) Raanjhanaa
3) Tanu Weds Manu: Returns
4) Nil Battey Sannata
5) Happy Bhag Jayegi
6) Shubh Mangal Saavdhan
7) Mukkabaaz
8) Meri Nimmo
9) Happy Phirr Bhag Jayegi
10) Manmarziyaan
11) Tumbbad
12) Zero
Out of 11 movies, I think only Happy Phirr Bhag Jayegi is crap; rest all are quality movies even if they worked at boxoffice or not. This is very good record for single independent producer.
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December 3, 2018 at 5:00 PM
Didn’t know he directed Mukkabaaz and Manmarziyan. Or that he directed Tumbbad too!
None of the films he has personally directed are any good.
KJo by adding his name to Baahubali did not become its content creator.
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December 3, 2018 at 5:21 PM
Actually scratch that. I did watch parts of Ranjhanaa and that was quite absorbing, albeit a bit depressing.
I haven’t seen TWM: Returns which has fetched the best ratings for Anand L Rai so far.
But I still insist, TWM is a pretty mediocre film with a plot that’s absolutely bonkers — and not in a good way.
I much prefer films like Bareily Ki Barfi or even Dum Laga Ke Haisha over TWM, and these films aren’t that special either.
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December 3, 2018 at 4:59 PM
Forgot Rajkummar Rao’s Newton!
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December 3, 2018 at 9:09 PM
Disliked Tanu Weds Manu. Could not empathise with characters.Offputting attitudes.
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December 3, 2018 at 9:13 PM
TWMR had the most ridiculous climax. Rai makes his leading hero a confused sucker, someone you end up laughing at instead of sympathizing with. That is how all his films are, and Zero wont be an exception going by that trailer.
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December 3, 2018 at 12:39 PM
Haven’t seen but would like to see: Badhai Ho, Manto, Gali Guleiyan, Mulk, Beyond The Clouds, October, Padmaavat and Pad Man
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December 3, 2018 at 9:43 PM
Wow…that’s a long list of great cinemas.
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December 3, 2018 at 10:00 PM
I am quite sceptical of such rankings if not all are viewed in same platform. I shared the same when Jayshah shared the thread for best films of Aamir Khan.
I usually find theatrical experience, with other audience responses, different from watching it on TV/Netflix, etc.
A ranking on films watch in theatre if mixed with films watch on other platform undermines.
Its like saying London is better than Switzerland while visiting London for 1 week and visiting Switzerland only on laptop. Or vice versa.
Such experiences are part of screen play’s vision. There are many scenes created/envisaged/directed just for theatre going audience. Various effects, etc are used which one cannot recognise in other formats.
Hence in my opinion when talking about a movie…say Tanu Weds Manu Returns and if not seen in theatre..then one should specify it. Because the other person who really liked it in a theatre saw a very different cinema than one who watched it another platform.
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December 3, 2018 at 12:44 PM
Wish i had as much enthusiasm as aamirsaurabh about TOH China’s release after such a disastrous result in India . IF TOH was a under performer like Talaash or Secret Superstar Chinese collections would have mattered and might bring some respectability but the fact is TOH was a massive disappointment an absolute embarrassment and thats how it will be remembered.
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December 4, 2018 at 2:24 AM
It wld be remembered as a massive dissaoppintment in India but I m hoping for some miracle in China.SS also put on a huge 118M$.Atleast some consolation wld be there if China works.
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December 4, 2018 at 4:12 AM
I don’t have high hopes. Anything above a quick smash and grab in China will be an achievement for TOH. Let’s see as Turkey will give some idea of a non NRI market.
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December 3, 2018 at 4:02 PM
Does 2.0 need to gross the equivalent of the budget costs (around 500 crore) to be deemed a success? This is what’s confusing me.
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December 3, 2018 at 9:10 PM
It wont recover costs. 375 cr distribution cost in India needs equivalent share for recovery status. Producer figure (over-reported by a margin) is 260 cr nett in all versions in 5 days in India so far. That is just 130 cr share, which is just 35% of recovery target.
And Monday has fallen by 60% from Sunday at all-india level. sustaining at this level over weekdays wont be enuf.
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December 3, 2018 at 5:32 PM
My Bollywood Report Card so far:
The Disappointments
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1) Thugs Of Hindostan
2) Bhavesh Joshi
3) Sanju
The Average
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4) Raazi
The Good/Very Good
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5) Pataakha
6) Stree
7) Mukkabaaz
8) Andhadhun
9) Manmarziyan
The Exceptional
——————————-
10) Tumbbad
The list by Saket is a fair one.
Zero will be the real test for Rai. Can he handle a big star like srk? It is one thing making small films and another thing to make a film with a big superstar. Raees director was the last one to get something good from srk.
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December 3, 2018 at 5:57 PM
Massive fire in Mumbai’s Aarey forest near Infinity IT Park
According to Mumbai fire brigade, the fire, which was confined to trees and dry leaves, spread across an area of about 3-4 kilometers. Although, there were no reported casualties, a heavy damage to the forest is being feared.
Filmcity is also in this area.
Activist Zoru Bhathena said, “Although there might be no human casualties but there might be a huge green cover loss. Also, it is likely that there may be many animals and birds stuck in the forest fire. The cause also needs to get investigated as it may be an attempt to encroach the land by later claiming it to be a barren land.”
https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/massive-fire-in-mumbai-s-aarey-forest-near-infinity-it-park/story-Tnptf6PPjaUq9Z8i4w3L6N.html
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December 3, 2018 at 9:33 PM
Thugs Of Hindostan: Why is Aamir Khan Sorry?
Nobody Is Infallible At The Box OfficeHits and flops are an intrinsic part of the show business and an actor, howsoever big, has to take his flops in his stride. The Indian cinema history is replete with examples of the failure of good films, let alone the awful ones.
Film-making is actually a teamwork and no individual should suffer from any pangs of guilt for a movie’s failure. But being Mr Perfectionist and a huge star that he is, Aamir perhaps thinks that he owes an apology to his fans for letting them down. In the past 20 years, more so in the last decade, he has had a reputation as someone who knows the box office like the back of his hand. Thugs of Hindostan, therefore, must have come as a rude shock to him. As a conscientious star, he apparently thought it wise to take “full responsibility” for “not entertaining the audiences”. But in doing so, he is only putting more pressure on himself. Isn’t he?
Aamir should realise that he is an actor and not merely a hit machine. He or his admirers should not expect each of his movies to be a veritable pot of gold. Actually, he should take a leaf out of the book of Salman Khan, who remains unapologetic over the box office fate of his films and claims that even his flops do a business of Rs 150 crore. Or, he should look at the career graph of Naseeruddin Shah, who remains a great actor regardless of the innumerable flops to his credit.
What should Aamir be really worried about is why and how did he err in the selection of the script this time? Thugs of Hindostan, doubtless, had a hackneyed script. He should ponder over it but, at the same time, he should also remember that nobody is infallible in this business where the ultimate arbiter of a movie’s destiny is a fickle audience. Not even someone who strives for perfection in each of his outings!
https://www.outlookindia.com/blog/story/thugs-of-hindostan-why-is-aamir-khan-sorry-nobody-is-infallible-at-the-box-offic/4005
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December 3, 2018 at 9:42 PM
I am actually pained to see the reaction of few Aamir Khan fans. They are shell shocked.
One became abusive till i intervened.
Another has become vindictive.
Couple of others have become mournful.
Few are finding fault external to the movie.
Most are justifying the movie even when Aamir accepted that he failed and apologised.
I mean WHY? Are you guys so stupid that you let one fall belittle the amazing run Aamir had since last 10 years via 3 great movies and 3-4 very good movies.
I am not “Only” Amir fan. Unlike few here who pride in sayin “I will not watch that film because it has that “STAR”, i can proudly say i have watched all Aamir’s film in the first weekend despite the WoM. I skippped ToH but will watch it sooner.
But again, for the sake of this portal we should not club people. There are many passionate Amitabh Bachchan fans also. They were very excited about ToH as after Khakhee, this was one movie where BigB was ruling the promos. It got me excited.
Post debacle, i am amazed at the maturity shown by Big B fans. I am sure they are pained. But none of them are vindictive, accusing fans of other stars for sabotaging and noone is abusing.
It is time YOU , yes Y O U learn from them.
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December 3, 2018 at 10:06 PM
Ok, since I am one of those who seem to be perpetually speaking up for this beleaguered film, let me explain my stand.
I can and have been critical of Aamir films, the man too.
My liking for TOH is not because of Aamir only. I belong to the minority Aamir mentioned, those who were entertained by the film. The film was patchy, entertaining in parts, stretchy and illogical in parts. But it is NOT the worst ever Hindi film as many are terming it. Both filmi and social media have been saying so. There have been worse films in the recent past, one a hit, since the star is accepted as he is.
Yesterday, I felt like revisiting a song from TOH — Suraiyya. I enjoyed the video, this goofy fun flirty song sequence. Then I made the mistake of reading comments. 95 % had trashed it. Have we all lost any sense of fun? There have been worse comedies in Hindi cinema. I found the song to be an absolute riot, right up to the last bit where Firangi’s wig is jacked off. Loved the chemistry of this pair through the film.
I loved Vashmalle too. My spouse too, is a big fan of this buddy drinking song. Master was horrified that I liked the lyrics and the fact that Amitabh was made to dance. I felt, so what if he had a bit of fun in a role that was mostly fierce and righteous.
I know plenty of fans on fb and twitter (and a couple of silent ones here too), people who are unhappy about the total rejection of TOH. But unlike me, they have been wisely silent too. I guess I should too, if I am not to be laughed at.
Aamir has apologized for not entertaining most of India. He is happy that a section of his India audience liked it.
And people who speak up for ANY film, need to be accepted.
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December 3, 2018 at 10:22 PM
I am all for speaking up for the movie one liked.
Just an hour ago i was listening to Suraiyaa. I think it is a wonderful dance song. I wish i had seen ToH and contributed to the reviews. I have remained quiet because i don’t want to say based on other’s opinion/reviews.
My message is for the larger audience.
As fan of the No 1 star, you enjoy many privileges. You have the best box office numbers, some of the most amazingly accepted movies, superb performances, etc. it’s power.
But with power comes responsibility. You cannot use the power provided by your No 1 star to weaponise against No2, no 3…No 10 star. Of course the fans of No 2- No 10 knows that their star if not No 1. These things are obvious. Allow them sometimes to go over the top. Let them enjoy some of the magic.
But never belittle other’s achievement. This way, will make you look bigger. This goes in life as well and not just this portal.
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December 3, 2018 at 10:34 PM
I can only speak for myself. I have never belittled any star. It takes passion and team work to make a film, any film. I review books for a paper. Have rarely spoken out completely against any book, even if the book has glaring faults. I point out thefaults as my opinion, but do try to put in a good word.And when I love a book, I champion it, totally. So, thoseinterested : do check out Mohammed Hanif’s latest novel, Red Birds. It is a parable that critiques the US foreign policy in the Middle East. My review has appeared in Sunday Deccan Herald, couple of days back. It is one funny, searing novel that ultimately left me choked up.
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December 3, 2018 at 10:36 PM
I have seen people on twitter speak up for SRK’s last outing JHMS, as a misunderstood film that raised issues which Europeans connect to, not Indians. I respect their views.
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December 3, 2018 at 10:25 PM
Naveen should become a swamiji and disperse gyan. Nowadays it is a very lucrative profession. It is much better profession than praising Akshay day and night and dealing with passionate aamir fans. Or should become like BigB fans and control himself.
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December 3, 2018 at 10:26 PM
Become silent like them. That will be much appreciated.
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December 3, 2018 at 10:27 PM
😀
I am waiting for Jayshah to provide me ToH tickets in my city. I am ready to become a swamiji for that.
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December 3, 2018 at 10:31 PM
Swamijis dont watch films as far as I know.
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December 3, 2018 at 10:32 PM
Fraud ones watch pron all day, not just movies.
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December 4, 2018 at 12:53 AM
Both of you seem to have been at the receiving end of wrong swamijis. Your bad luck continues. 😛
I know the great ones. My great lucky streak is self made.
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December 3, 2018 at 10:03 PM
Marcus, did you watch 2.0? You talked yesterday something about getting a chance. Whats your view?
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December 3, 2018 at 10:30 PM
Yes, I saw it last night. But nothing much to say about the film. Its not bad nor good, plain average. Its less masala than a regular Shankar film, at least till the point that horrendous 2.0 or 3.0 version of Chitti shows up (and Rajni starts his usual antics). After that it becomes quite intolerable. Rajni was fine in the first half though. But Akshay Kumar has done well (and he shows up in the second half to save it from being a disaster). I think thats the main reason why hindi version is doing relatively better. Akshay deserves all the credit for that.
This film needed to be Rajni nonsense from the get-go to make it really big in TN/Telegu belt. And to make it really big in high-end plexes (like that 227 cr nett for AIW a few months back), it needed to mute Rajni in the second half. So its neither here, nor there – dangling somewhere in the middle.
I think in Hindi it will do 170-175 cr nett and be a plus film. In south its downward trend will continue.
As for visual spectacle, Shankar uses his imagination better than Enthiran. But the vfx execution is not as great as his imagination (probably budget constraints). But maybe good enuf from the kind of vfx exposure that Rajni/Akshay fans usually have.
The best thing about the film is Akshay by a margin. He has a good role, and performs v well. But his ‘message’ gets belittled by 2.0 – quite literally.
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December 3, 2018 at 10:34 PM
Appreciate for you unbiased review. Even I heard from some reviews that Akshay comes off better. It might be the reason for tamil people(some) to be somewhat unhappy. Some even said why Rajni could not do Akki’s role.
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December 3, 2018 at 10:36 PM
Thanks.
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December 3, 2018 at 10:36 PM
Appreciate for your unbiased review. Many liked the back story of Akshay. But for some reasons which are too well known, I dont have any problem with Akshay and his success.
All the best for 2.0 success.
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December 3, 2018 at 10:41 PM
Btw, I wont recommend it as a visual spectacle – its quite shabby if you are exposed to the vfx world.
But wont discourage anyone who wants to watch it either – just for Akshay. For his message here and of course the way he entertains.
I wud prefer this over ‘Katappa Kyon Maara’ nonsense anyday. But its not a patch on BB1. Yet, its an upgrade from Enthiran.
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December 3, 2018 at 10:47 PM
I am confused. I dont watch films in Imax format because it gives me headache. So I will catch it on TV. I think Akshay has given a subdued performance here. I dont dislike Rajni either. Sort of accustomed to his style of acting.
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December 3, 2018 at 10:58 PM
Sorry for the confusion, i meant there is such a cartoonish feeling to the vfx execution here. Hollywood extravaganzas are all beyond that. Even check the visuals from the upcoming chinese sci-fi production – The Wandering Earth. I posted the trailer yesterday.
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December 3, 2018 at 10:59 PM
Instead of fake praise from agenda driven people, I like this honest, heartfelt review from you. Your praise of Akshay sounds authentic and believable and does not leave a bad taste.
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December 3, 2018 at 11:02 PM
If you publish this short review on BR blog, you may get some brickbats from diehard rajni fans. Just a thought.
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December 3, 2018 at 11:06 PM
Many viewers have praised Akshay in 2.0. Happy for him. Apparently he suffered and sweated through his shoot, thanks to the birdman costume.
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December 3, 2018 at 11:08 PM
Not posting it anywhere. Just shared my opinion since you asked. :p
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December 4, 2018 at 1:06 AM
@LS – Glad u mentioned the birdman costume. It worked well along with akshay’s look and makeup. The hindi version wud have opened better (at least by 10 cr on day one) had the trailers highlighted more Akshay than Rajni.
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December 3, 2018 at 11:32 PM
Fine review Marcus
I felt the film was very ambitious in its visual grandeur but the good intentions in its message didn’t translate as well. it hits a high during its post interval flashback involving Dr. Pakshirajan’s story, but enters the ludicrous zone again when it ended.
A robot fighting a man’s aura sounds too outlandish, but I was simply swayed by the tech marvel, and this is where I think Shankar deserves all the appreciation. It also helps that you are never less invested in the film. it works as a grand entertainer, not as a film on paper!
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December 3, 2018 at 11:42 PM
Agree on Shankar’s ambition to push it visually. He does deserve some brownie points for it. What I cant understand is, why not do this with a younger star?
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December 3, 2018 at 11:51 PM
Nice review…well enthiran when it was written it was supposed to star SRK…then after the fall out rajni stepped in…2.0 was just an extension of enthiran so maybe they continued with rajni…akshay role was supposed to be done by kamal initially but he backed out..now shankar is starting Indian 2 with kamal..I guess the budget was so high that it needed rajni for the worldwide appeal…
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December 4, 2018 at 12:05 AM
Like this review — and also your TOH write up. Said it in the earlier box office thread.
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December 4, 2018 at 12:57 AM
Third class review. Seems like you saw a pirated downloaded Mallu 2.0
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December 4, 2018 at 1:01 AM
The problem with someone like you who hardly visits theatres of other actor’s movie is you lack sensibilities which are required to appreciate 2.0.
You put some effort for your ToH review but it was more defensive than what Italians play in soccer. Just to prove your point of masala, you went on and on there. It did not cut ice with me sorry. I did read other reviews that praised 2.0 and those were more genuine.
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December 4, 2018 at 1:19 AM
What happened to you gyan that you are so keen to distribute?
Why so much anger and frustration?
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December 4, 2018 at 1:50 AM
@SANJANA – Whatever little game you are trying to play here, i don’t know. If you think your favourite person can do anything and in the long run all gets forgotten then you are wrong. You play the game u want to. I never forget and forgive.
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December 4, 2018 at 1:03 AM
btw marcus did you watch it in 3D or 2D?
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December 4, 2018 at 1:07 AM
3D
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December 3, 2018 at 10:49 PM
I am hoping it does 200 cr in hindi and gets certified as a hit. If Devgn could get a 200 cr film with the last Golmaal, then Akshay surely deserves to get there with his effort here.
This film is a lot better than bollywood’s krrish series or any sci-fi attempts.
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December 3, 2018 at 10:56 PM
What about repeat value?
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December 3, 2018 at 11:01 PM
Not much. Strictly one-time watch. Dont know why Shankar decided to trivialize the issue with cell-phones by the end of it all. He seems completely confused about what he wants to say in the film. Again a middle ground.
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December 3, 2018 at 11:08 PM
paying audiences have matured it seems in 2018 becoz they wudn’t take any crappy stuff be it aamir, rajni, sallu or srk….they want content now…that is a good sign…atleast proper masala also is ok for them but not just big advertisements with no show afterwards….
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December 4, 2018 at 12:10 AM
Leave out comma — and this is what you get:
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December 4, 2018 at 2:28 AM
even without the comma, what is wrong with this I am still not getting it? 🙂
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December 4, 2018 at 2:58 AM
Her marriage was not to a Bhansali film. It needed a comma after marriage. Or a better worded line.
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December 4, 2018 at 2:59 AM
I think Idea is saying that Ranveer is as melodramatic as a Bhansali film.
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December 4, 2018 at 3:56 AM
☺️
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December 4, 2018 at 12:25 AM
102 NO is not trending well in China. May end at around 5m only.
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December 4, 2018 at 12:27 AM
https://www.bollywoodshaadis.com/articles/dusky-bollywood-divas-who-went-for-skin-lightening-treatment-3107
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December 4, 2018 at 12:34 AM
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December 4, 2018 at 2:19 AM
If the love story works this can do 70-80 cr nett. Enuf for a success i guess? (No idea of budget of this one).
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December 4, 2018 at 12:56 AM
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December 5, 2018 at 11:38 AM
I don’t think Akshay has ten 100 crores to his name.Btw, if any record of 100 crore ever needs to be mentioned is that Salman is the only actor who touched 100 crore with Dabangg and continued it till now irrespective of flops in between. Every movie from Dabangg till now is over 100 crores which is 13 in a row and I don’t know how long will it continue to do.
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December 5, 2018 at 11:42 AM
That record will continue till he retires. But 100Cr means very little now when small budget movies get there. 13 though is some streak. Only way to lose that is doing a Tubelight or Race 3 on non holiday period.
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December 4, 2018 at 1:20 AM
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December 4, 2018 at 1:22 AM
Week one (8 days) will be 135 cr, thats equal to akshay’s highest grisser so far. Second weekend will be key to an eventual 200 cr nett total for hindi version.
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December 4, 2018 at 2:18 AM
2.0 needs to hold off Kedarnath next weekend. Kedarnath is being predicted to open in 5-8 cr range. 2.0 will need to keep ahead of it in its second weekend to get to 200 cr total imo.
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Will Kedarnath affect the business of Rajinikanth’s 2.0?
Thanks to the presence of debutante Sara Ali Khan and a powerful provocative inter-religious love story as its plot, Kedarnath is all set to be get an impressive opening this Friday. Sources in the know say the beleaguered project which was embroiled in a producers’ conflict has shaped into a love-during-the-time-of-cataclysm tale of epic proportions. The producers RSVP and director Abhishek Kapoor are expecting a heartening opening in spite of Rajinikant and Akshay Kumar stronghold over the box office with 2.0 which opened last Friday.
A source from a leading multiplex chain says they expect a sizeable drop in the 2.0 collections in the coming days. “By the time Kedarnath opens on Friday the theatres, screens and the audience should be satiated with 2.0”
Film & Trade Business analyst Girish Johar says, “Kedarnath has got a very interesting backdrop of the love story set in the Northern Hills of India and one of the most sacred places and temple of the country. It’s a fiction-based love story on the actual cloudburst which led to over flooding there. Sushant Singh Rajput is a fine actor and Sara Ali Khan is a budding new star on the horizon, with decent music, I feel the film should open anywhere near Rs. 5 to 6 crores on its Day 1. Thereafter the content and word of mouth will take it accordingly into the weekend.”
Adds trade analyst Amod Mehra, “Opening should be around Rs. 7/8 crores. In film industry you are known by your last film and both the director as well as the hero had given big flops in their previous films. Despite that thanks to the curiosity of Sara Ali Khan the film’s opening can be decent and earn Rs. 7/8 crores on Day 1.”
Trade expert Atul Mohan adds, “The film has gone through various ups and downs right from inception. And now when it’s finally on the verge of release we are hearing a new controversy about ‘Love Jihad’ arising. In a way all these controversies add to the audiences’ curiosity. The film is a debut vehicle of Sara Ali Khan and she is making all the right pre-release noise with her confidence. Looking at all this I think an opening of Rs. 6-7 crores should be on cards.”
http://www.bollywoodhungama.com/news/features/will-kedarnath-business-rajinikanths-2-0/
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December 4, 2018 at 2:46 AM
I think 2.0 will manage to sustain as it will only lose its 2D screens to kedarnath which anyways are not collecting much..that’s what most likely will happen..5 days is 110cr..it should be around 145 cr by end of the week if it collects in double digits next 3 days…Friday would be around 7 to 8 crs..seems good to reach 200cr for now..
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December 4, 2018 at 2:22 AM
Producer figures …
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December 4, 2018 at 2:22 AM
Marcus, saw your comprehensive review on BR blog and it is really good.
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December 4, 2018 at 2:26 AM
I took ur cue to censor it …
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December 4, 2018 at 2:45 AM
is really 2.0 making profit or just faking numbers. will it achieve hit status with that 600cr budget.. i dont see its trending well as compare bahubali 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔😌
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December 4, 2018 at 2:55 AM
At this point its more liking producers faking numbers to publicize an imaginary recovery status, given the huge distribution prices. Ra.One deja vu.
Hindi version has a chance of becoming a hit in the end. Depends on how it sustains from here. Our generous addatoday is reporting 20% drop today for hindi, which implies another double digit number today. Subsequent drops over next two days are more likely than not.
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December 4, 2018 at 4:06 AM
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December 4, 2018 at 4:24 AM
If I am not mistaken, all of these 3 films (Aquaman, ToH and Bumblebee) will do a lot better in China than in their domestic markets.
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December 4, 2018 at 4:36 AM
This one is slightly better (reminded me of Sanjana fighting trolls … sorry skrulls).
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December 4, 2018 at 4:45 AM
Haha!
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December 4, 2018 at 5:35 AM
I missed this song in the film. They used a bit of it in background during the climactic face-off.
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December 4, 2018 at 5:56 AM
This is the second song that made it to the final cut (apart from the end credits one).
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December 4, 2018 at 5:48 AM
Into the Spider Verse has v good early reviews. Opens in India on Dec 14 along with Aquaman.
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/spider_man_into_the_spider_verse
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December 4, 2018 at 5:51 AM
THE 5 MOST ANTICIPATED MOVIES OPENING IN DECEMBER
TWO VERY DIFFERENT SUPERHERO FILMS LEAD A HOLIDAY LINEUP OF BIG BUDGET TENTPOLES AND HISTORICAL DRAMAS.
Even as we enter the final month of 2018, superhero movies continue to draw massive interest, with a member of DC’s Justice League and an alternate version of a Marvel icon topping the list of Decembers most anticipated movies. If you count the Transformers prequel about a certain VW Beetle and Disney’s decades-later sequel to a celebrated classic, then fantastical tales about extraordinary individuals comprise the top four. Toss in a couple of real-life based dramas that tied for the fifth spot, and you’ve got a pretty hefty holiday movie season to look forward to. With that in mind, read on for the Most Anticipated Movies of December!
1. AQUAMAN (2018)
How do you make a superhero who talks to fish and wears orange spandex cool? Cast Jason “Khal Drogo” Momoa in the role, surround him with people like Nicole Kidman, Willem Dafoe, Patrick Wilson, and Amber Heard, and put the man behind the Conjuring universe in the director’s chair. James Wan’s origin story about DC’s reluctant Atlantean king ranked #1 across all of our social polls and garnered the most Want-to-See votes on RT of any December movie by a wide margin. Aquaman looks primed to rule the box office when it opens right before Christmas, but it’ll face some stiff competition from a few other movies on this list.
2. SPIDER-MAN: INTO THE SPIDER-VERSE (2018)
We’ve already gotten three different versions of Peter Parker since the superhero movie boom of the 2000s, but we’ve never seen Miles Morales on the big screen, and if early reviews are any indication, Into the Spider-Verse could be one of the best Spider-Man movies yet. Produced by The Lego Movie and Jump Street franchise’s Phil Lord and Chris Miller (and co-written by Lord), Sony’s animated film made believers out of skeptics with the first trailer, which showcased a unique, vibrant art style with a beating heart at its center. Considering almost all the reviews thus far have been raves, this one looks like a crowd-pleaser.
3. BUMBLEBEE (2018)
The Transformers franchise has never performed very well with critics (the first film in 2007 is the Freshest at 58% on the Tomatometer), but it has raked in over $4 billion at the box office. With that in mind, this month’s Bumblebee represents a break from formula: It’s a prequel set during the 1980s and centered on just one of the characters, and it’s directed by someone other than Michael Bay (namely Travis Knight). Hailee Steinfeld stars as the human companion this time around, and instead of the more futuristic designs we’ve seen in the franchise thus far, we get robots that more closely resemble the classic Transformers from the TV series. We’ll have to wait and see if the gamble pays off.
4. MARY POPPINS RETURNS (2018)
The latest in Disney’s efforts to remake, reimagine, or otherwise reintroduce classic films from their extensive library comes in the form of a sequel to 1964’s Mary Poppins. The magical nanny formerly played by Julie Andrews is replaced by Emily Blunt, who returns to Cherry Tree Lane to teach timely lessons to the children of the now grown-up Michael Banks (Ben Whishaw). This one only cracked the top five in our Twitter poll, but it also earned the third most Want-to-See votes on RT.
https://editorial.rottentomatoes.com/article/the-5-most-anticipated-movies-opening-in-december/
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December 4, 2018 at 5:57 AM
https://boxofficeindia.com/report-details.php?articleid=4491
439 cr gross and 200cr distributor share as per BOI in 5 days…still a mountain left to climb..the way I see it now hindi and overseas has to help it to recover the losses in south
ABO has a figure of 140cr distributor share just for India in 5 days…worldwide is around 14mn..so their number will be around 180cr distributor share
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December 4, 2018 at 5:59 AM
The ABO link for 5 days only India showing 141cr distrubior share
http://andhraboxoffice.com/info.aspx?id=5323&cid=6&fid=6014
The rest of India number needs an update as it cannot be 115cr gross ..the net for 5 days is 110cr so gross has to be around 130cr plus
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December 4, 2018 at 6:04 AM
ABO’s right column is probably the nett figures from producers. Anyways, 140 cr recovered out of 375 cr share needed in 5 days.
62% of recovery left at this point. Meanwhile boi is upto Ra.One level of bull …
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December 4, 2018 at 6:06 AM
Sorry, india theatrical price is 295 cr (rest is overseas). So 52% recovery left to be done.
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December 4, 2018 at 6:10 AM
It is gross only. Day 1 they had it at 24cr when the reported net was 20cr…..they dont report net anyways..they might adjust it later but it’s a small number of around 20cr gross only
..140cr is just India..adding overseas their numbers will be within 50cr gross of BOI…and distributor share will be 180cr plus…so roughly 50 percent done..if you go by them…
BOI numbers seem reasonable as it is worldwide…we obviously dont know which is right but the range seems to be 180cr to 200 cr recovery till now in shares…it is not going to touch 375cr share..it might end close to 300cr I think…
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December 4, 2018 at 6:11 AM
Shares are roughly 50-55% of nett figures, not gross.
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December 4, 2018 at 6:16 AM
Typically yes in hindi..in telugu Tamil the share concept is different..if you see heading of ABO column it says gross…you can see sarkar or any film..right side is gross..they stopped reporting net few years back…actually I have also wondered how south share calculation works compared to north..its different for sure but dont know the details involved…
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December 4, 2018 at 6:22 AM
If you see the numbers of Tamil telugu the share to gross ratio is very high..60 percent types but for Bollywood it is just 40 percent..the share works differently there…
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December 4, 2018 at 6:11 AM
I agree with Marcus. BOI is pulling a fast one here desperately trying to get recovery status. They are even looking at the Far East, Japan LOL. The height of hypocrisy of this site is beyond me.
When China provides nothing back, Far East and Japan will save 2.0! BULLSHIT STUFF!
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December 4, 2018 at 6:18 AM
And they are posting 2.0 updates quicker than Twitter! This is not some joke, they are desperate for Akshay Kumar..this Girish Johar or whoever.
The ignorance and sweeping under the carpet of BOI so blatantly in front of people’s eyes is just very sad to see.
It happened with TOH when potentially inflated numbers by YRF and BOI were swept aside as it hurt BOI credibility but folks were happy to champion lower numbers from Kadels and Jaiswals but not accept BOI fudging. Where does one draw a line of credibility?
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December 4, 2018 at 6:21 AM
I dont think so..they are clearly saying it will reach 500 not sure of rest of the 175cr..and I think reason for talking about south east and Japan because these are big markets for rajni…the movie was no 1 in Singapore Malaysia etc last week..
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December 4, 2018 at 6:27 AM
Yea fine but do they even score anything like China has in last 2 years. I bet every $ earnt in these markets in the history of Rajni’s films is less than Dangal in China alone!
This is blatant bias.
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December 4, 2018 at 6:36 AM
They obviously wont..thats why they also mention fledgling markets..but these markets run his movies for a long time..singapore has tamil as national language and tamil movies are big there…sarkar might still be running there for all that we know…btw this movie also released in Norway and fiji due to same reason and did a crore or two there..that’s why it is such a big overseas number..I am not defending BOI but this commentary seems reasonable
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December 4, 2018 at 6:38 AM
It’s only reasonable if China is mentioned in same breath. Otherwise it’s cherry picking season again…
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December 4, 2018 at 6:51 AM
I dont think it is releasing there in China.. never read anything to that effect..
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December 4, 2018 at 7:07 AM
Not 2.0 but other films that do in China!
I’m simply saying the overseas is being used here in disguise whereas for other films that release in China, that market is ridiculed. So how can BOI be so disrespectful in one instance but here it is reasonable.
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December 4, 2018 at 7:20 AM
Ok now I got what you are saying..I agree they need to improve on China commentary in general…
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December 4, 2018 at 6:06 AM
Krish
Not a fair way to look at it. It’s a flop in South, heading for BB in Hindi, overseas I don’t know. These are all separate arrangements, covering losses with success of other is like covering India with China 😀
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December 4, 2018 at 6:09 AM
Was about to say that. Hindi wont be BB in any case given that high distribution price of 75-80 cr. But heading for Hit/Superhit status depending on how lenient one is regarding these verdicts.
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December 4, 2018 at 6:13 AM
Yes I get that…you cannot make up losses of one with other…as its sold to different entities..it is going to be losses in south and surplus in hindi and overseas…very strange..I would have never thought a shankar movie doing well in north and not in south..the price has killed it..let’s see how the next 2 weekend go for it
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December 4, 2018 at 6:43 AM
not sure if there’s anything to these numbers:
https://www.sacnilk.com/quicknews/2.0_Day_6_Box_Office_Collection_and_Occupancy_Report?hl=en
it’s relatively hard to get proper numbers here on Tamil/Telugu beyond the weekend.
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December 4, 2018 at 8:21 AM
https://www.hindustantimes.com/bollywood/priyanka-chopra-nick-jonas-share-first-official-pictures-from-their-emotional-wedding-see-pics-inside/story-x8kPwLLryO7JWnq8Ontx3M.html
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December 4, 2018 at 9:16 AM
https://www.addatoday.com/2018/12/20-hindi-6th-day-tuesday-collection.html?m=1
11-11.5Cr – solid but probably puts 200Cr in 50/50 scenario.
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December 4, 2018 at 9:31 AM
Its official.
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December 4, 2018 at 9:32 AM
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December 4, 2018 at 10:47 AM
“@aamir_khan Will attend 6 City Pramotional Activity & attend Closing ceremony”
Why does Aamir think this movie will run only for 6 days? 🙂
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December 4, 2018 at 11:10 AM
So now u r reading aamir’s mind too?
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December 4, 2018 at 9:35 AM
Running time – 120 mins
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December 4, 2018 at 9:40 AM
@Jay – This version is 44 mins shorter than the one you saw.
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December 4, 2018 at 9:42 AM
I’ll bet good money China is getting a better cut here but skeptical whether they will like it.
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December 4, 2018 at 9:46 AM
They wont expect a Khakee for sure.
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December 4, 2018 at 9:36 AM
Chinese Synopsis:
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December 4, 2018 at 10:08 AM
Thats actually in line with Marcus and masters review saying it should be about adventures of Firangi
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December 4, 2018 at 7:55 PM
Why wasn’t it released in China with a different title- “Adventures of Fir”?
Hoping ToH China does really well.
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December 4, 2018 at 10:10 AM
Can we get that version to view? How to get it legally?
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December 4, 2018 at 10:37 AM
Have read one where that some edited out bits have been added. Don’t know how true.
Six city tour….I am guessing YRF and the Chinese distributors want Aamir to sell the film as much as possible…and Aamir needs to be careful, not apologising obviously, but being guarded. So the film may be more about Firangee.
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December 4, 2018 at 10:39 AM
Edit — Have read on a site, a fortnight back, that some edited portions may be added.
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December 4, 2018 at 11:04 AM
Amitabh and Fatima’s roles have been chopped and Firangi’s screen time increased with additional footage for the chinese cut as per reports.
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December 4, 2018 at 11:11 AM
If true, they should release that edition in India too. I know its difficult to release but they should market it as limited 1 week run for super edited version at select cinemas with 100-200 rupees only at plexes.
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December 4, 2018 at 11:49 AM
If it is pruned that much boi will say it is another film!
From Thugs to Firangi!
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December 4, 2018 at 11:52 AM
Pruning is accepting it didn’t work and was essential to have any chance in China. I wonder what the editor left out, I bet this blog could edit TOH to a blockbuster as it wasn’t that bad.
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December 4, 2018 at 11:55 AM
It will be fun to track its numbers in China while Simba is releasing and Zero is running. Second chance.
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December 4, 2018 at 12:04 PM
Trolls are already shitting here with the confirmation of the release date.
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December 4, 2018 at 12:07 PM
Marcus I like a bit of banter but usually when I’ve seen my cards I start to brag. Going to the casino would be fun with you, I think you will feel a straight flush every hand!
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December 4, 2018 at 12:18 PM
Unfortunately, I dont refer you at all when i talk abt trolling. You have your own views and i am fine with that. As Saket said, krish did not get that offended by his post. Again, it was not krish who started a moronic rant when i said some of the numbers he quote is idiotic …
The point is, dont reply if you dont get it.
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December 4, 2018 at 12:21 PM
I’m not offended by your post…who said I am?
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December 4, 2018 at 12:37 PM
China release just 50 days of domestic release is insane.SS before this was the one with the minimum gap and before it Dangal and before it PK tells us abt what Aamir is in China
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December 4, 2018 at 8:12 PM
@Jay – I posted the above set of tweets on China release for a reason. And no, it was not to piss off a few people here.
Aamir is taking enough time out from his current work schedule to do a promotional tour for 6 cities and attending a film fest before the china release. That is at least one week of his time. And he is taking another cut of the film to that market.
My point is that he has enuf faith in the film (even after all the bashing and trolling it received in India) to further work on it to make it better (at least they have tried) and is then going all out for China release. That says something, doesnt it? I think he is on the same page as those few of us who have liked the film. I belong to that category and am quite pleased that he obviously feels the same about his 2 years of work.
At least he didnt cancel chinese release after reading your comments. But dont mind that, coz your words are enuf to get our respected blog owner to cancel his tickets.
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December 5, 2018 at 1:16 AM
@Marcus- if he’s on the same page he wouldn’t change the film at all. The point is he has publicly acknowledged the dislike and YRF too so they MUST edit it to give it a chance. It’s the only option if they go for China release, I’ve already been convinced that it is fair to release it so relax. But am cautious about the response and more hopeful than confident.
Satyam would watch the film if he wanted to irrespective of my opinion. So I think you should stop pointing this finger at me. I’ve known him long enough to know one person’s opinion won’t stop him, if anything it will peak his interest more to watch it.
You’re really beyond limits here. My point yesterday was in jest that over confidence after such a huge farce is just pointless, nothing more than that. Instead you’re trying to prove how Aamir likes the film like you do when he’s acknowledged it’s gone wrong. Enough, we’ll know everything we’ll need to know come China release.
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December 5, 2018 at 1:30 AM
You are misreading everything. Firstly plz revisit aamir’s interview. He apologized to those like u who did not like the film. Then he thanked a minority like me who liked the film. Then he acknowledged the trolls saying everyone has the right to say stuff against the film. And he said that although the film did not work for majority of indian audience, he is still looking fwd to china release in dec. Is this not clear enuf?
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December 4, 2018 at 12:03 PM
Marcus I posted the date before official confirmation.Holiday weekend.Fingers crossed.
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December 4, 2018 at 12:19 PM
The date has been going round for last few dates as tentative.
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December 4, 2018 at 12:32 PM
But I told it’s confirmed.Earlier there was no exact date.
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December 4, 2018 at 1:41 PM
Aamirsaurabh, I don’t know what’s your life or career or location but in all honesty, I want to suggest that you should make this your profession. The passion you have for Chinese collections is incredible and you should contact Aamir khan productions and tell them you can help in marketing in China or work with them when the deal will be going on, etc. You know all the details than anyone else sitting in that discussion room. Then you can take to be the lead coordinator for all Bollywood film releases in China. There is full requirement for a specialist now in Bollywood and oldies can’t fill this spot. Take this suggestion seriously.
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December 4, 2018 at 1:58 PM
I agree with Master, happens rarely but definitely a serious suggestion here.
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December 4, 2018 at 8:15 PM
On a serious note, if one needs to do what you propose then he/she will have to really study local chinese productions and their fascination for hollywood extravaganzas. Good luck to anyone who has that much time and enthusiasm.
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December 5, 2018 at 2:43 AM
I am an Engineer at Hindalco(Flagship Aditya Birla Group Company) at Renukoot,UP and I earn well enough.This is just a passion and I have no intrest in pursuing it as a career.Marcus let TOH release in China and I am sure we are excited abt it as it is a full on commercial pot boiler.Reactions in China is not discourging till now.
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December 4, 2018 at 12:30 PM
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December 4, 2018 at 12:31 PM
Massive…
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December 4, 2018 at 1:05 PM
This will hv same fate as bb2 in china.
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December 4, 2018 at 8:35 PM
Good to see that you have stopped interacting with Naveen though he is trying to poke and provoke. Keep it up as long as possible.
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December 4, 2018 at 8:56 PM
Did I? I usually don’t provoke or poke a person. But yes, i will reply in same currency if i see goondaism.
I am not in a ‘fan club’ group here indulging in such nonsense of poking or provoking and then instigating other group members to react.
My opinions are not guided.
I also don’t want to guide anyone towards a particular agenda.
I dislike such group politics as it smacks of stupidity and jealousy.
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December 4, 2018 at 8:58 PM
Keep up your good work and best wishes.
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December 4, 2018 at 7:53 PM
I am surprised that non Aamir Khan films are also able to get big release.
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December 4, 2018 at 12:37 PM
Watched the following past couple of days-
1.Stree- what an overhyped Chu##yapa, getting tired of Rao’s bumbling act . Whatever AnJo said about Badhai ho is actually true for Stree.
2.Pathaka- This was double Chu##yapa, matlab no rhyme and reason par picture bana dee. the sibling fights seemed entertaining in the beginning but soon they became boring and annoying, Vijay Raj bhee ab typecast ho gaya hai.
3.The Post- Again Overhyped and boring no drama at all .
4.Sui Dhaga- felt like watching a documentary .
5.The Five- Not as good as Bodyguard, lots of unrealistic stuff and too many coincidences, but the last episode was so moving.
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December 4, 2018 at 1:29 PM
Aisi selection kyon kare hoo ki one line review main bas C….. likhna pada hain 🙂
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December 4, 2018 at 1:55 PM
C sey Chookiya
There is a superb poem written by Ashutosh Rana called Chookiya which he recently recited on an AajTak program, check it out Bliss.
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December 4, 2018 at 2:00 PM
sure.
Watch tamil movie ’96. Awesome.
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December 4, 2018 at 2:07 PM
will do, is it dubbed or subtitles ?
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December 4, 2018 at 11:53 PM
Rocky:
It should be with sub-titles if it’s on einthusan. Do not miss 96. If you like conversational movies, you will love this: On the lines of Linklater’s ‘Before Sunrise’ series.
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December 5, 2018 at 8:17 AM
Subtitles but awesome movie and AnJo has added his valuable comment also. Before series my Fav but it is not like Before series though, one may find similarity
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December 5, 2018 at 10:06 AM
Thanks AnJo and Bliss..will watch it soon.
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December 4, 2018 at 1:59 PM
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December 4, 2018 at 9:17 PM
😀 😀 😀
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December 4, 2018 at 1:49 PM
Looks like you wasted your time 🙂
The Post was very facile…I wanted more tension in screenplay.
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December 4, 2018 at 1:52 PM
totally agree on The Post, Tom Hanks sey zyada effective toh who Intern thaa …LOL
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December 4, 2018 at 4:36 PM
If you don’t mind subtitles and have Hotstar subscription (I got email from sling that Star is being removed from Jan 4th), Check a Bengali movie “Kabir”.
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December 5, 2018 at 10:09 AM
Ya I got that email from Sling as well.
Frankly with KBC gone, My wife’s favorite -Bepanah gone, and Indian Idol to be gone by Dec end I will probably end my subscription after the Winter break.
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December 4, 2018 at 1:50 PM
Ha ha…. agree overall not a good selection , ittefaq ho gaya kuch aisa.
Stree was the most disappointing of the lot.
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December 4, 2018 at 1:55 PM
True. I don’t know what people saw in Stree. At least Badhaai Ho if not great movie was good but Stree was painful watch. They called it horror comedy but not enough horror nor enough comedy!
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December 4, 2018 at 2:00 PM
I think you are sore that Rajkumar Rao mimicked SRK’s patented romantic pose in front of Stree, in the climax 😉
That was seriously funny!
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December 4, 2018 at 2:07 PM
I’ll copy Z’s original line. If I get a cent everytime you use SRK in your comment, I would have been millionaire by now!
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December 4, 2018 at 2:47 PM
You would definitely become a millionaire by keeping this plan running. So keep at it.
You’d have to wait for 1000s of birth and death cycles though. That’s just based on my frequency of mentioning SRK, here or elsewhere.
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December 4, 2018 at 3:33 PM
On a more serious note, I’ve never said a word against films like Dear Zindagi or Raees. It’s not hard to fathom why!
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December 4, 2018 at 2:01 PM
Out of four people watching, only I jheloed it till the end, and next morning all of them were asking – toh kaun niklee Stree ??
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December 4, 2018 at 2:06 PM
Even the template of Hero key friends bhee bahut ho gaya ab.
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December 4, 2018 at 1:56 PM
I’m put of Stree now. Lots of negative vibes.
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December 4, 2018 at 1:58 PM
Its IMDB rating is 8. And average of reviews is 6.3 on review monk. Apart from one or two critics, every single one has praised it.
It’s a darn good film, and a funny one too!
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December 4, 2018 at 2:05 PM
I’m not really a horror fan at all. Partly because stuff rarely scares me. Or spooks me. I find it a really overrated genre. But if this arrives on Netflix I’ll give it a go.
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December 4, 2018 at 2:53 PM
Watch the trailer and decide if it’s for you or not. The trailer kind of makes it evident if you’ll like the comic scenes or not.
I’m not a fan of horror films either. But I have the opposite problem — I get spooked too easily!
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December 4, 2018 at 10:38 PM
My take on all of them:
Stree: a no holds barred entertainer. goes slightly OTT and outstrethed in its climatic portions but all in all a fun film. quite unique in some matters. glad that we had a pure desi horror comedy in its treatment
Patakha: Not VB’s best but a good film nevertheless. the sibling fights are repetitive and its loud but its endearing throughout
The Post: very good film with fantastic lead performers. bites as much as it can chew, and does a good job at it. fairly uncomplicated and that’s why it’s engrossing
Sui Dhaga: One-time watch, but some great moments, especially when it involves the familial interactions between the couple or with the parents
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December 5, 2018 at 10:12 AM
Actually agree on Sui Dhaga , it did have some really good moments but became too simplistic towards the end.
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December 4, 2018 at 6:24 PM
India’s most inspirational film of the decade..another wonderful story here.
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December 4, 2018 at 7:52 PM
https://twitter.com/BiharKaLal/status/1070009099683684353
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December 4, 2018 at 8:32 PM
There are flurry of Bollywood releases in China now. (Has the quota increased)?
While Aamir opened the gate, the humongous success of smaller films like SS, Hindi Medium and Hichki has given confidence to the Chinese distributor to look at other films now and tie up with Indian counterparts. I wish this doesn’t become a one way street.
I would like to see mainstream chinese movies releasing in India too dubbed in local languages. The success of Jungle book and Avengers shows the acceptance in India towards international films dubbed in local languages.
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December 4, 2018 at 9:04 PM
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December 4, 2018 at 9:13 PM
Big B is looking dashing in his track suits. Has he been given Z class security?
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December 4, 2018 at 11:18 PM
He has Y category as per few news portals.
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December 4, 2018 at 9:28 PM
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December 4, 2018 at 9:34 PM
Massive. Salman and SRK when together dancing for Katrina will break the decibel level in the theatre.
Those planning to watch Zero on TV, please excuse.
Those not planning to watch, thank you!
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December 5, 2018 at 7:35 AM
pathetic…..zero can dance like a bollywood star with swag too! ha….
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December 4, 2018 at 10:55 PM
A pointer for wannabe chinese experts …
https://twitter.com/hashtag/ThugsOfHindostanInChina?src=hash
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December 4, 2018 at 11:00 PM
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December 4, 2018 at 11:02 PM
satirical tweet https://twitter.com/juniorbacchhan/status/1069549172049801218
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December 4, 2018 at 11:17 PM
Looks like fake twitter id of Abhishek Bachchan?
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December 4, 2018 at 11:10 PM
Twinkle Khanna talks about the challenges she faced while finding people who would finance Padman
Mumbai: Twinkle Khanna, who produced Akshay Kumar-starrer Padman, said on Friday that there were many people who questioned her decision to back a movie which supported the cause of menstrual hygiene. Padman is inspired by the life of Tamil Nadu-based Arunachalam Muruganantham, who created affordable sanitary napkins for the women of his village.
The film, directed by R Balki, had Akshay playing the central character. It is based on the short story, “The Sanitary Man of Sacred Land” from Twinkle’s book “The Legend of Lakshmi Prasad”. “When I started making the film, a lot of people said, ‘Are you crazy? Who is going to watch a film on menstruation? People don’t talk about it.’ That was the challenge- to find people who would be ready to finance a film like this.
“As a team, we were determined and we realised the impact (of the film) as the government announced that they are installing sanitary pads vending machine at railway stations and there was an impact on the GST. We did play a small part in bringing that about,” Twinkle said at an event here.
The film, which released in January this year, earned over Rs 100 crore at the box office. Twinkle, 43, has been roped in as an artiste ambassador by Save the Children, a leading Child Rights NGO in India, to champion the cause of adolescent health and menstrual hygiene.
Twinkle on Friday visited the slum area in Govandi to interact with adolescents, who are part of Save the Children and its partner agency Apnalaya in creating awareness.
“I created awareness through columns and a movie. We needed to do a ground work and it was great to be a part of Save the Children. Also, we got to know that 20 per cent of school girls drop out because they hit puberty and they do that because of the taboo around menstruation. They do not have access to low-cost sanitary pads.”
Citing the example of a 12-year-old girl from South India, who committed suicide after she was reprimanded by her teacher as her uniform was stained, Twinkle said there is a need to change the mindset.
“It was gratifying to see what they (Save the Children and Apnalaya) did in Govandi, they were not only educating girls but boys also. That is important as we live in a patriarchal society, where men are controlling the household.”
https://www.timesnownews.com/entertainment/news/bollywood-news/article/twinkle-khanna-talks-about-the-challenges-she-faced-while-finding-people-who-would-finance-padman/315473
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December 4, 2018 at 11:19 PM
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December 4, 2018 at 11:20 PM
I am assuming that this will be banned in Pakistan. 😛
Looking forward to this one. Hope its well made. Poster is super awesome.
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December 4, 2018 at 11:25 PM
Doston…bajaao taali. Well done! 👏👏😀
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December 5, 2018 at 12:28 AM
boxofficeindia
2.0 (Hindi) dropped 15% on Tuesday which is a bit more than the regular 10% for a big film on a Tuesday but its was the sixth day here instead of the fifth day. The film has collected over 120 crore nett in six days and the first week (seven days) is looking to be around 130 crore nett.
This 120 crore nett for 2.0 in Hindi is without South so real value is around 135 crore when compared to other Hindi films. Its still about the Friday which will tell where the film is going and there will be a some competition from Kedarnath which will get a good release though collections will be another matter and will depend on the film. .
The first three day collections of 2.0 (Hindi) are as follows
Thursday – 20,00,00,000 apprx
Friday – 18,00,00,000 apprx
Saturday – 24,00,00,000 apprx
Sunday – 33,25,00,000 apprx
Monday – 13,50,00,000 apprx
Tuesday – 11,50,00,000 apprx
TOTAL – 1,20,25,00,000 apprx
The southern versions of the film dropped less in Bangalore though Hyderabad was in a similar range to the Hindi version.
Note – The all India collections will be updated later on.
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December 5, 2018 at 12:37 AM
Taran has updated a neat 122.5 cr in his site (again no ugly fractions). Week one will be approx 137 cr in 8 days. Golmaal Again collected similar in first week.
It needs to do 31-32 cr in second weekend like Golmaal did, in order to get to that 200 cr milestone. And it has Kedarnath as competition. Doable IMO.
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December 5, 2018 at 12:40 AM
ABO did not update.
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December 5, 2018 at 12:44 AM
I dont think they update as frequently as boi (speaking from my experience during BB2’s box office run). They will probably update entire week’s collection next.
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December 5, 2018 at 12:32 AM
https://www.hindustantimes.com/bollywood/priyanka-chopra-s-wedding-veil-is-bigger-brighter-than-my-future-read-the-funniest-memes/story-aLBCuT3JVnzctqjPkiBZeP.html
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December 5, 2018 at 12:36 AM
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December 5, 2018 at 12:47 AM
This could be Vicky Kaushal’s first solo lead superhit.
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December 5, 2018 at 1:48 PM
This is a fairly ordinary trailer but reactions like these makes me hope that this turns out to be a blockbuster.
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December 5, 2018 at 12:55 AM
Someone gifted me a malayalam calender, diary and some books. Which inspired me to learn malayalam. If you know some tamil, it helps.
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December 5, 2018 at 1:11 AM
dropped 15% on tuesday. this may get a 140 crore week one and then may finish at somewhere around 190-200 crore. best for an akki starrer till date but should be doing more!
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December 5, 2018 at 1:30 AM
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December 5, 2018 at 12:21 PM
Sanjana, please post this under Zero thread, not on boxoffice thread! 😉
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December 5, 2018 at 12:54 PM
You can do it. The bottom link is much more interesting. Video by ndtv on the launch.
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December 5, 2018 at 1:32 AM
https://www.ndtv.com/video/embed-player/?site=classic&id=500690&autostart=false&autoplay=0&pWidth=420&pHeight=315&category=embed
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December 5, 2018 at 3:56 AM
2.0 All India Day Six Business
Wednesday 05 December 2018 13.45 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
2.0 grossed continues with strong collections all over with business of 24 crore nett which takes the film to over 280 crore nett. The film is doing record or near record business in the big centres of Tamil nadu and Kerala. The smaller centers are less but are very steady and will have good runs.
Bahubali – The Conclusion is the highest all India NETT grosser at 1115 crore and that is impossible to touch but it will easily become the second highest NETT grosser ever as it beats the 418 crore nett of Bahubali – The Beginning. The 500 crore nett mark will also prove to be a step too far due to the flow of releases in December.
The first six day NETT collections 2.0 across India are as follows.
Thursday – 62,31,00,000
Friday – 44,00,00,000 apprx
Saturday – 55,00,00,000 apprx
Sunday – 68,00,00,000 apprx
Monday – 29,00,00,000 apprx
Tuesday – 24,00,00,000 apprx
TOTAL – 2,82,31,00,000 apprx
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December 5, 2018 at 3:57 AM
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December 5, 2018 at 4:20 AM
First week heading towards 140Cr. Rowdy Rathore business will be beaten today or tomorrow.
The pan Indian business is not spectacular at all. If it’s not getting to BB2 Hindi business (that’s a decent enough target) than the South markets didn’t do as well as expected. Basically it’s beating BB1 all India net with a shot at BB2 Hindi net. (This paragraph based on BOI report posted by Sanjana).
2nd week Hindi business looks like 40-45Cr. LT looks on track for 200Cr.
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December 5, 2018 at 4:32 AM
It is indeed shocking that Akshay had to wait for so long to cross 135 Cr barrier. I will blame his choices as well as lack of good directors for his kind of cinemas.
Good action films have always done well. However since last 10-15 years, Hindi cinema has lacked good action directors.
If we look at last few good action movies- Wanted, Ghajini, Dabangg, Rowdy Rathore…all were remakes of South India movies. Last solid director were Rajiv Rai (Tridev, Mohra, Gupt, etc.) and Raj Kumar Santoshi (Khakee, Ghayal, Ghatak) and occasional Anil Dharma and JP Dutta. This really impacted Akshay who was grooming towards the action hero. All these core action film directors faded because they couldn’t reinvent.
On the contrary we had directors making mushy good romantic feel good movies which helped other stars like SRK, Salman, etc. They needed softer looking heroes with chocolaty looks. Rajshree, Chopras and Johars made them big stars.
It again needed a director from South india to push Akshay’s BO boundary. I doubt if this boundary is going to be breached any time soon. The North Indian directors just don’t know the masala actioner genre.
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December 5, 2018 at 4:36 AM
Your edit is done.
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December 5, 2018 at 4:51 AM
I don’t watch the South films but if we compare the north and stuff like Wanted, Ghajini, Dabangg, RR all of which I liked then for sure the talent for this kind of genre is in the South. One day hopefully North, South distinction is not having to be mentioned at all!
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December 5, 2018 at 5:25 AM
The likes of Santoshi, Rajiv Rai, Anil Sharma and JP Dutta really excelled with action dramas. They made action films for the northern audience.
Santoshi combined drama and action well and the rythm in his films got relentless once during the second half. Rajiv Rai made big action films in a thriller format. The edting was crisp, the scenes were kept short and the films moved at a breakneck pace with VIju Shah’s BG score accompanying it. Sharma and Dutta like patriotic films, laced with flash-backs, emotions and love stories but they were good with large scale action scenes. Unfortunately they haven’t been able to re-invent themselves.
The kind of action films being done these days is more the kind of action inspired from south films.
I don’t think Akshay Kumar is doing enough action films. You have to go back to the days Gabbar, Baby and Holiday for those last action movies. For an actor who does 3 or 4 films a year and who is so good at action, it is puzzling why he stays away from action deals.
Even when Masala films started working during the times of Ghajini, Wanted and Dabangg, he waited for too long before doing an action film.
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December 5, 2018 at 6:32 AM
Rahul, Few relevant thoughts from you as always.
“I don’t think Akshay Kumar is doing enough action films. ”
Trie and it is sad, but not Akki’s fault. He was not getting good scripts in core action or event in action comedy genre.
He was approached by Lyca for Kaththi remake which would have been a good hit with him. But instead he chose 2.0
There are not many action film scripts that are coming.
Now he is being offered historicals with lot of action scenes. He will consider on of those…however its coming too late now with his age. He should have got these offers when in his 30s and 40s.
Movies like Tashan, CCTC, Blue, Boss etc just blew away the opportunity to give Action comedy genre with Akki. Foreign studios never came with technologies..they just put money on the stars. YRF made few actioners but they only promoted directors like Victor who made Dhoom series or Kabir Khan. They never really looked out to make actioner in true sense.
UTV delved more on new age stories which was easier to make with evolving sensibilities of Indian audience. Ram Gopal Varma and Anurag Kashyap wasted their talent in chasing girls rather than scripts. Entire 2000s got wasted as far as good action comedy films are concerned. Priyadarshan, Sunil Darshan, Vipul Shah and Niraj Pandey couldn’t make bigger and better films with Akshay despite getting biggest hits of their career from Akshay. They all used Akshay and gained but never really evolved themselves to return the favour.
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December 5, 2018 at 4:33 AM
Tamil specifically has underperformed majorly but bizarrely it will set lifetime records in all TN cities…so basically the B and C Tamil mass centers have failed and A centres have broken records..I always had a major doubt whether 100cr share is even achievable even in Tamil when no movie before has even reached 80cr…
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December 5, 2018 at 4:45 AM
Would B and C centres have the ability to film 3D versions? Or is Rajni simply not the draw he once was? Or those rumours of political stance have some truth? Or a combination of many such factors?
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December 5, 2018 at 5:01 AM
Not sure..not political surely as kaala didnt even open in cities and came too soon after the shooting incident…maybe that whole scifi thing was too much for them..you know what’s strange..its doing record business in Bihar though…it has hardly recouped 35percent of share in Tamil yet…telugu is atleast at 55.percent…
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December 5, 2018 at 6:22 AM
One of my friend from Patna told me that the largest patna daily Dainik Jaagaran and Hindustan carried out a 4.5/5 star review in Hindi. People read newspaper in Bihar and UP more. 😀
The urge in such cities towards technology has to be seen to be believed. People in the race to compete with big cities adopt tech stuff faster.
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December 5, 2018 at 5:32 AM
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December 5, 2018 at 6:54 AM
Is this the same movie that the mercurial KRK was complaining about Karan Johar clubbing it with 2.0 and negotiating with exhibitors?
If yes, then Karan was playing a damn smart game…because this is not a small movie by a stretch. These movies are in trend now.
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December 5, 2018 at 11:25 AM
Irrespective of this releasing with Zero or not, this is such a awesome impressive promo. Totally hooked and will probably watch it surely.
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December 6, 2018 at 3:15 AM
After Telegu films rose with Baahubali, Tamil films with 2.0 … It is time for Kannada films to show their worth.
This looks good!
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December 5, 2018 at 5:50 AM
Marvel to release Avengers 4 trailer on Friday: Report
After weeks of waiting, it seems that Marvel will release the first Avengers 4 trailer on Friday, December 7.
https://www.hindustantimes.com/hollywood/marvel-to-release-avengers-4-trailer-on-friday-report/story-udDRCBB9MOHNcsWQEUgADN.html
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December 5, 2018 at 6:50 AM
Today in 1965…we witnessed a history in indian cinema.
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December 5, 2018 at 7:43 AM
The songs were awesome. One of the greatest song in the history of Hindi Cinema.
This songs sounds simple but has things which people who dont’ know music won’t understand it. Kavita Krisnamuthy said it the best; in music, you have a language sa re ga ma pa, but in this song Rafi did things outside of the language.
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December 5, 2018 at 10:48 AM
My fav bollywood movie and Din Dhal Jaaye is probably my fav song of all time.What a masterpiece.Guide is the best bollywood music album of all time.PERIOD.
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December 5, 2018 at 10:14 PM
Interestingly R. K. Narayan disliked the film adaptation of his novel. Reviewing the English version of the film for the magazine Life, he called it “The Misguided Guide”.
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December 5, 2018 at 7:02 AM
In a caustic article published on The Cut website on Tuesday, actress Priyanka Chopra has been called a “modern-day scam artist” with whom husband Nick Jonas shares a “fraudulent relationship against his will”. Chopra and Jonas, an American musician, got married in Jodhpur on December 1. The article, written by journalist Mariah Smith, is titled “Is Priyanka Chopra and Nick Jonas’s Love for Real?” – and attempts to prove that it is not. The article also portrays Chopra as a money-minded celebrity who calculatingly married the unassuming Jonas as a power move.
The Cut is a website that is brought out by the New York magazine, which is owned by New York Media LLC. Its “About Us” section describes The Cut as a “premier destination for women with stylish minds” that covers “politics, feminism, work, money, relationships, mental health, fashion and issues relating to equality”.
The 2,100-word article was roundly panned on social media from people across the globe. Social media users also criticised the piece as being racist and sexist because it accuses Chopra of trying to rise in the ranks in Hollywood by marrying an American celebrity, ignoring the fact that she has been a major star in India since 2003.
https://scroll.in/reel/904566/modern-day-scam-artist-sexist-and-racist-us-article-on-priyanka-chopra-nick-jonas-draws-criticism
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December 5, 2018 at 7:23 AM
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December 5, 2018 at 7:31 AM
“If you are bad, I am your dad.”
Beats Race 3 dialogues.
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December 5, 2018 at 7:44 AM
Is Karan Johar releasing this in Hindai? 🙂
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December 5, 2018 at 7:47 AM
Farhan Akhtar, Ritesh…
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December 5, 2018 at 8:13 AM
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December 5, 2018 at 11:29 AM
What’s the title in China? Is it just Firangi or referring to Thugs?
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December 5, 2018 at 10:24 PM
Maybe u shud have spent all this time learning chinese instead of trolling.
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December 5, 2018 at 8:31 AM
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December 5, 2018 at 8:46 AM
In 7 days 2.0 will cross 300 cr nett in India and 500 cr ww gross. The challenge is going to be to double these figures by the end of its run (China, Malaysia, Far East included in ww gross).
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December 5, 2018 at 8:56 AM
In comparison BB2’s 7 days ww gross was 830 cr and india nett was 530 cr.
http://andhraboxoffice.com/info.aspx?id=2055&cid=6&fid=834
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December 5, 2018 at 8:58 AM
And BB2 ended its run with 1100 cr nett in India and 1800 cr ww gross (including China). It basically doubled its first week’s collections.
http://andhraboxoffice.com/info.aspx?id=4112&cid=6&fid=834
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December 5, 2018 at 9:26 AM
Its a non starter in the far east in my opinion. Would be a miracle if it even crosses 100 Cr in China, forget Bajrangi’s 300!
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December 5, 2018 at 9:50 AM
China will be 10-15m range if it gets a wide release. Not sure what boi is expecting from far east and far west ;(apart from antartica and arctic regions).
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December 5, 2018 at 9:01 AM
Doubling first week collections or 7 days has proved difficult for every major grosser since 3 Idiots except of course BB2. And I guess with BB2 that might only have happened for Hindi dubbed version. None of the 200Cr+ club except 3 Idiots have done this (I think). So 2.0 is really going to have to do something special overseas here IMO in the Asian belt.
Dangal came close to 2x opening week, followed by Padmaavat…the closest since 3 Idiots.
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December 5, 2018 at 9:07 AM
IMO 2.0 will end with around 420-450 cr nett in india and 900-1000 cr ww after phase 2 releases in overseas including China. Lets see.
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December 5, 2018 at 9:10 AM
Basically Secret Superstar territory
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December 5, 2018 at 9:13 AM
Yeah, BB1 range in India and Secret Superstar range Worldwide.
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December 5, 2018 at 9:14 AM
What will be its status after this? Hit or semi hit or super hit or blockbuster?
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December 5, 2018 at 9:20 AM
Mixed verdict probably. Plus in Hindi and Overseas. Flop in Tamil, Telegu and Malayalam versions.
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December 5, 2018 at 9:28 AM
Economics aside I would definitely call 2.0 a resounding hit in Hindi (It’s trend is positive). It is still a dubbed film so it’s achievement is still next to only BB2.
Other languages seems flop. Overseas haven’t followed. If Padman scores, it might be Akshay Kumar who emerges after Aamir in China as #2. And of course 2.0 will arrive in May19.
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December 5, 2018 at 10:24 AM
Marcus verdict seems fair….thats what it is looking like…in Tamil it will end up as a resounding flop…In Telugu could just about reach average if it gets a better second week…Hit in Hindi and Overseas…
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December 5, 2018 at 10:28 AM
Adding all versions, a 400-450 Cr lifetime for a 500 Cr budgeted film releasing in 7000 screens is nothing more than Average-Below Average.
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December 5, 2018 at 11:28 AM
2.0 just lost out huge business by not releasing it during Thanksgiving long weekend in US. When one is done with long vacation and getting back to routine lives people tend to not go to movie in same week. It was a stupid decision to not release it after 2 weeks of TOH and wait for 3 weeks.
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December 5, 2018 at 11:32 AM
Hindsight is wonderful. If they knew TOH would be a disaster they would know. But I suspect they expected it to run for 3 weeks. These big releases can’t advertise a date and change it so nimbly and just for US market alone?
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December 5, 2018 at 11:44 AM
My point is till now any big movie releases gap is 2 weeks. No one did 3 weeks and they went out of the way to create 3 weeks gap also sacrificing overseas collection and huge holiday. It was not a hindi film alone and they would have gained enough collections from other languages. Even TOH is blockbuster, 90% of the collection would have come in those 2 weeks and that is usually enough gap.
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December 5, 2018 at 11:49 AM
True they probably should have come earlier. Once you lock that date, preponing an already costly film is difficult I’d imagine. They certainly would have taken US market by storm.
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December 5, 2018 at 11:59 AM
Anyway next time round Aamir won’t get the benefit of the doubt or luxury of 3 weeks. Even Salman only got 2 weeks for Race 3 before Sanju release. So Aamir can expect some immediate competition going forward. Unless its Mahabharata or something like that where all bets are off. But if he did Mogul I could easily imagine direct competition on same day as his bubble has burst now.
If it’s Netflix he can avoid all this drama.
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December 5, 2018 at 8:41 AM
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December 5, 2018 at 8:54 AM
I feel that one of the reasons she married Jonas is just to have this beautiful train trailing like a parachute unfolding. The never ending train. She showed her fetish for this in one of her fashion statements.
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December 5, 2018 at 8:56 AM
Either Anushka or Deepika can beat Priyanka in style statements.
She made her marriage look like a fairy tale and Jonas looks nothing less than a Prince Charming.
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December 5, 2018 at 9:00 AM
Neither Anushka nor Deepika can beat Priyanka in style statements.
She made her marriage look like a fairy tale and Jonas looks nothing less than a Prince Charming.
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December 5, 2018 at 9:06 AM
I found this very OTT. Only posted it due to it’s extravagance rather than any liking! Jonas looks like a kid who got very lucky!
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December 5, 2018 at 9:10 AM
OTT of course. But it is beautiful.
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December 5, 2018 at 9:15 AM
I prefer quiet small weddings than such public hullabaloo. This is more of show-off than style.
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December 5, 2018 at 9:20 AM
Ditto. Not one for flashy or anything like that, it’s one day only and such with celebrity weddings it can all blow up in your face within 2 years.
Give me a Fiat, Rover, Volvo, Kia (my cars in my life) any day over a Ferrari.
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December 5, 2018 at 9:19 AM
Show off and style. Both. I dont know why all this looks so fake.
The fake smiles, the fake poses, everything fake. But nowadays I am seeing even ordinary middleclass people who can afford are imitating these trends.
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December 5, 2018 at 9:15 AM
https://boxofficeindia.com/report-details.php?articleid=4494
300+ nett in 7 days. However, 500 is far fetched as per BOI. No ways can 2.0 ever be called anywhere near a HIT if the final all India nett collections in all versions combined is <500 Cr.
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December 5, 2018 at 10:40 AM
The likes of Karan Johar & now Excel Entertainment are behaving like pimps. Dubbing every single big budget extravaganza from down south and arm twisting exhibitors to give them a 4000+ screen release while the dubbed versions of well accepted Hindi films like Dangal, Padmaavat & Bajirao barely get 200 screens upon release in Tamil & Telugu. I’d rather have these corporate czars produce some similar big screen extravaganzas in their own industry and attempt to get a 2000+ screen release for their dubbed versions down south. Every Telugu or Tamil movie is not a Baahubali as 2.0 has proved, for which the Hindi version is the only saving grace thanks to its bi-lingual nature and Akshay’s presence.
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December 5, 2018 at 10:55 AM
The WW Gross of 2.0 will be better than most Hindi movies barring 1 or 2 movies…It will be close to 600 to 700 cr Gross. Not sure how many Hindi movies have done that…Apart from Bahubali1 and 2 what other movie was dubbed and released in Hindi? The scale of 2.0 deserves a wide release like this.
Someone had posted the list of big movies releasing next year – many of them are South. The scale and vision at which they are working now these Bollywood directors are not yet matching..
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December 5, 2018 at 11:02 AM
Dangal, Secret Superstar, Bajrangi Bhaijaan and P.K in that order above 700-800Cr. Below that Sultan, Sanju, Padmaavat, TZH, D3, 3 Idiots. Though that’s Wikipedia who use inflation year ending rates so not perfectly accurate.
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December 5, 2018 at 12:35 PM
How many screens did the likes of Bajirao, Padmaavat and Dangal get for their dubbed versions in TN and AP? Dangal was a masterpiece that got a cult following even in China while the dubbed versions accumulated a mere 12 Cr nett, thanks to low screen count, lack of awareness and perhaps lack of interest among the south audience (outside of Bangalore, Hyderabad, Vizag etc) to witness the film. Even today, >70% of the highest grossing Indian films worldwide are from the Hindi film industry with Rajamouli and Shankar being the only film makers to have broken through. As for 2.0, its almost half a Hindi film with the bilingual dialect and Akshay’s presence leading to a solid initial in the core Hindi film markets. If the likes of BB and 2.0 get 4000+ screens for their dubbed versions, its high times distributors and exhibitors in the Telugu and Tamil movie market reciprocate the same for dubbed Hindi films, for it to be a more valid comparison. Despite all the grandeur, 2.0 might manage a little over 450 Cr from 7000+ screens, a pale comparison to even Padmaavat which amassed 300 Cr+ from just about 4000 screens. Forget Dangal’s 387 nett (gross would be a lot more).
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December 5, 2018 at 10:41 AM
https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/ambareesh-dies-at-66-forever-with-us-fans-pay-tribute-to-karnatakas-rebel-star-ambareesh-1952962
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December 5, 2018 at 10:53 AM
@ Naveen. I’m skimming through comments and see you’ve slipped by saying 12th hit in a row for Akshay Kumar. I will use your beloved, devoted one and only BOI to give you the reality check you need.
https://boxofficeindia.com/actor.php?actorid=2
Last 12 films excluding 2.0;
2 no verdicts – Padman and Gold (not hits for sure)
3 superhits – TEPK, Rustom, Airlift
2 hits – JollyLLB2, HF3
1 semi hit – Gabbar
1 average – Baby
3 Flops – Singh is Bling, Brothers, Shaukeens.
Go back 5 more films and 3 more flops.
Caught with your pants down while in celebratory mood 😂 So really the BOI truth is not true?
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December 5, 2018 at 10:57 AM
Padman and Gold are not hits for sure
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December 5, 2018 at 11:32 AM
I can’t believe Reema Kagti made such a lifeless movie out of the Gold script. It was so mechanical effort and no one cared for any character on screen. It should have been easy superhit movie but they botched it up.
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December 5, 2018 at 12:30 PM
I think the verdicts are alright even if I wouldn’t call Shaukeens an Askhay Kumar film. He was there in a guest appearance kind of deal.
The only dubious one there is Baby where there was a difference of nearly 10cr between BOI and Taran’s figures.
Gold at around 105cr net probably just about broke even. It is the worst trending film of the lot (along with Singh is Bling).
Padman may be average/above average due to the low costs.
But agreed. It’s not a 12 hits run.
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December 5, 2018 at 12:34 PM
Yea I haven’t seen Shaukeens so maybe should be excluded and replaced by Entertainment which was a flop.
Baby, but others too have lower collections compared to TA/producer.
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December 5, 2018 at 12:35 PM
2.0 should be only 0.5 as he comes only after interval 😀
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December 5, 2018 at 1:34 PM
Jolly & Housefull 3 are both Semi Hits than Hits imo. They both costed over ₹ 80 Cr and released in >3500 screens while barely crossing ₹ 105 Cr nett. The only clean hits among them are Airlift, Rustom and Toilet.
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December 5, 2018 at 5:31 PM
Ouch…did i say 12? I must have quoted from some news portal.
i was more referring to this list of last 3 years-
2016 Airlift
2016 Housefull 3
2016 Rustom
2017 Jolly LLB 2
2017 Naam Shabana
2017 Toilet: Ek Prem Katha
2018 Pad Man
2018 Gold
2018 2.0
Padman is my most favourite movie here. I don’t know but somehow the entire social entrepreneurship struck some kind of cord with me.
It not always we come across films like these from mainstream actors. I can understand a Rajkumar Rao or Ayushmann doing it at the beginning of their career. But some with a strong image like Akshay Kumar, completely going out of the way and doing this act was nice to see.
Right from start to end, he actually lived the life on reel of Real life Padman ‘Arunachalam Muruganantham’.
The care he showed for his wife, for other women in family and getting obsessed to make an affordable Sanitary Pad so much so that he shunned hesitation( imagine the movie was based on years of late 90s, when even the word menstrual cycle was not uttered by women even, forget men).
His inner desire to do good was seen in his small successes and failures and experiments. Eventually, succeeding thereby giving powerful message to all in general about never loosing hope. Keep trying.
More so, he refused to take the help of translator in a conference at United Nations (in the film) and tried to connect in “Linglish”( watch the film for this).
So, this movie is a must watch if one is really inclined towards issue based films in which he/she don’t get bored rather understand the emotions and can connect with the scene.
If you just want entertainment from this film, I think that would be a great disrespect to cause for which this film has been made. Although, at times it will bring cheers of joy as well.
Hence, must watch and take home the message of breaking the shackles of taboos imposed (like not to talk about sanitary napkins) and other such taboos also.
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December 6, 2018 at 1:38 AM
Vee, I am using this term because this is how the marriage between hindu muslim is looked upon especially if the girl is hindu.
As for taking Kareena as example, it is because she is the latest celebrity. Yes, Aamir did have two marriages with hindu women and they are also called love jihad on the internet and so also Srk’s. I am also deeply disturbed by this trend.
For the sake of the film, I hope the makers must have taken into consideration all these things.
Padmaavat was also bashed for insinuating something between the villain and the heroine though it was one sided.
And Reema and Kiran were not known as Reema Khan or Kiran Khan. If one converts just for the sake of pleasing the husband, it is not correct. If one converts out of conviction, it is different.
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December 5, 2018 at 10:25 PM
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December 5, 2018 at 12:44 PM
Entertainment was a flop. Producers of Baby were probably over-reporting but the difference was abnormally high with something like BOI’s 82cr to Taran’s 93-94cr. I think the truth may lie in the middle range. But still, I would not call the film a hit. Maybe above average at best.
I may be wrong but I think Aamir most probably has the best run with a string of winners before TOH. Varun Dhawan has very few under-performers as well in his short career.
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December 5, 2018 at 1:01 PM
US website takes down offensive article calling Priyanka Chopra a ‘global scam artist’
‘Upon further editorial review, we found this story did not meet our standards,’ said a note on the website.
https://scroll.in/reel/904658/us-website-takes-down-offensive-article-calling-priyanka-chopra-a-global-scam-artist
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December 5, 2018 at 1:07 PM
2.0 Box Office Collections: Rajinikanth, Akshay Kumar film needs to earn Rs 600 crore, says analyst; here’s why
2.0 Box Office Collection: Directed by S Shankar and sequel to Robot, rajinikanth and Akshay Kumar starrer 2.0 has already crossed Rs 400 crore mark worldwide. The film’s entry into the Rs 200 crore (worldwide gross) club in the opening weekend is itself a feat for Indian films. However, made with a huge budget of over Rs 550 crore, the film has now entered into its second week and has already registered slow growth on the box office.
2.0 film collection day 1 (India market) stood at Rs 74 crore. Rajinikanth and Akshay Kumar starrer 2.0 has now marked Rs 425 crore gross collection worldwide.
“The film has earned Rs 135 crore net in 6 days in South India while it has earned Rs 119 cr net in northern belt. Though it has done a good business in Tamil Nadu, its performance at Andhra Pradesh, Telangana and Kerala box offices have not been up to the mark. Its gross India collection now stands at Rs 310 crore after 6 days,” told film critic and trade analyst Sumit Kadel to ZeeBiz.Com.
Kadel said that the film’s net overseas earning stood at Rs 115 crore. The film’s worldwide gross collection now stands at Rs 425 crore.
Sumit said that despite its good weekend performance, the film may not get the ‘Hit’ tag.
“The film needs minimum Rs 600 crore to get a ‘Hit’ tag. The film’s lifetime India collection may be around Rs 350-380 crore. It’s a hit in Hindi belt but a clear flop in South given the huge making budget,” said Kadel.
Kadel said that even if its global earning is taken together, the film’s performance is not up to the expectations.
“The film was released on around 12000 to 15000 screens globally. Lyca Productions have sold it to distributors/theatre owners at a very high price in India. Neither its South India collection nor its global collection justifies it as a ‘Hit’ film,” said Kadel.
The film has earned Rs 26 cr net (all languages) on Monday and Rs 20 crore net (all languages) on Tuesday in India. Given the working week, the film’s earning may only see a decline going ahead. It’s now up to the movie lovers to classify the movie as a ‘Hit’ or ‘Flop’ as the analyst verdict is already out now.
https://www.zeebiz.com/india/news-20-box-office-collection-total-rs-600-crore-day-6-robot-sequel-rajinikanth-starrer-super-hit-or-flop-worldwide-what-analyst-says-74409
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December 5, 2018 at 1:14 PM
https://boxofficeindia.com/report-details.php?articleid=4495
https://www.pvrcinemas.com/moviesessions/Delhi-NCR/2.0/NHO00010705?language=ALL
So much for “normal ticket rates”, a working day ticket price in a high end Delhi multiplex is ₹ 400 and beyond! Ditto here in Bangalore where its ₹ 320 on a Thursday (I watched Fantastic Beasts at the same PVR for ₹ 270 last Sunday). Yet again, BOI seems to be caught with its pants down.
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December 5, 2018 at 1:36 PM
These lies will continue until Zero release. It has become prestige issue for many.
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December 5, 2018 at 1:42 PM
Shankar must be beating his head hard. Rajni hardly gained from this film which was supposed to be his vehicle while Akshay gained immensely. What a twist! If China performs then it will be different and everyone will gain.
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December 5, 2018 at 6:05 PM
I beg to differ on Shankar. On Rajni, probably yes.
But Shankar benefited from 2.0. He made a movie which will at min recover the cost for the makers. Remember the cost doubled and this movie was never meant to be 500Cr. It was made for 300Cr.
Not many big movies can recover if the cost gets doubled in the making.
So Shankar will be mighty pleased. He bailed out the producers here. Audience has hailed 2.0 has Shankar’s film more than Rajni or Akshay. What more can one want. He is getting more credit than what Nitesh Tiwary got from Dangal.
He remains India’s top director along with Rajamouli and Hirani. He has already moved on to his next biggie Indian 2 with Kamal Hassan.
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December 5, 2018 at 8:40 PM
Nitesh Tiwary got plenty of credit for Dangal — from its own lead star, other co stars, from the film’s fans. It was the media probably that failed to highlight Tiwary’s contribution.
I await Tiwary’s next.
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December 5, 2018 at 10:22 PM
Nitesh did get. I am not denying it.
Just comparing to put things in perspective.
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December 5, 2018 at 1:47 PM
How much today? I mean wednesday.
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December 5, 2018 at 1:51 PM
Addatoday predicting something between 10-11cr for today. It has remained stable, it seems from the report.
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December 5, 2018 at 1:53 PM
They said it maybe higher or lower. So we have to wait.
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December 5, 2018 at 2:05 PM
I don’t think it will be higher. It was at 11.5cr on Tuesday. I guess if it has remained stable, it may be at 10cr or slightly more. We’ll get the figures tomorrow morning. I guess it has gone past the 130cr mark today.
Any idea on the prospects of Kedarnath, anyone?
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December 5, 2018 at 8:53 PM
25 cr weekend and perhaps 70-80 cr total if accepted.
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December 5, 2018 at 1:57 PM
Still not sure about the Tamil numbers, this link seems to suggest it’s in good company, on the other hand it seems to be slipping fast at this point, and this is just Chennai:
https://www.moviecrow.com/News/22073/2point0-20-chennai-6-days-box-office-collection
again not sure about the Telugu version. Some links suggest it’s become the biggest grosser in Kerala.
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December 5, 2018 at 1:58 PM
there’s a useful table at the end here:
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/telugu/movies/box-office/2-0-box-office-collections-shankar-and-rajinikanths-film-has-an-all-time-record-for-its-pre-release-business/articleshow/66861048.cms
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December 5, 2018 at 1:59 PM
talking about a Tue drop here (Telugu):
http://telugupremiere.com/2-0-6-days-collections-ap-ts-boxoffice/
they’re calling the trending no more than ‘fair’ which I think characterizes the Tamil as well. The problem is it can’t just be ‘fair’ for such a massive film. It needs big numbers minimally for two weeks. The Hindi version has done well or better but not stupendously. Still this would be fine if the South markets kept up. Not sure if this is happening as of yet.
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December 6, 2018 at 12:09 AM
The Chennai numbers are record breaking..sarkar did like 15cr by end of its runs and this is already at 13cr now…but the issue is with rest of TN..the B and C hasnt performed well..but I think even if they had the price of 100cr distribution share has killed it completely…
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December 5, 2018 at 8:44 PM
Some numbers …
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With its Hindi version only, Dharma Productions & AA Films’ presentation opened on a tremendous note and since then maintaining a strong pace. Over the 4-days extended opening weekend, it did the business of 97.25 crores with 20.25 crores on Thursday, 18 crores on Friday, 25 crores on Saturday & 34 crores on Sunday.
Then on weekdays, 2.0 faced a usual drop but still remained solid and minted the amount of 13.75 crores on Monday & 11.50 crores on Tuesday. On the next day i.e. Wednesday, after a further decline, 2.0 bagged the amount of 10.25 crores and raised 7 days total collection to 132.75 crores from 4000+ screens.
Including its all three versions- Hindi, Tamil & Telugu, the sequel to 2010’s Enthiran is running phenomenally. The movie has done the business of 310 crores nett (395 crores gross) nationwide from around 7000 screens, that included 234 crores in the 4-days weekend, 29 crores on Monday, 25 crores on Tuesday & 22 crores on Wednesday.
In the international market as well, 2.0 is performing excellently and has grossed approx. 522 crores globally including 127 crores gross from 2500+ screens in overseas.
https://boxofficecollection.in/box-office-report/7th-day-collection-of-2-0-rajinikanth-akshay-starrer-grosses-over-500-crores-worldwide-39227
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December 5, 2018 at 8:52 PM
With 140 cr in extended week one (8 days), it should collect around 35+ cr nett in second weekend (7+11+17) if trending remains good.
200 cr total will be difficult if it does not cross 175 cr mark by end of second weekend.
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December 5, 2018 at 10:37 PM
Halfway there.
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December 5, 2018 at 8:56 PM
Venom got extension in China, will eye for 300m.
https://screenrant.com/venom-china-box-office-gross-records/
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December 5, 2018 at 9:00 PM
‘Aquaman’ Projected To Have Highest Opening Ever For A DC Movie In China
Aquaman is already looking to be a force to be reckoned with stateside, but if current estimates deliver, it could also set a new record for DC films in China.
Aquaman hits later this month, and as of right now it is looking to make quite a splash overseas, specifically China. Current estimates are putting Aqumana’s box office projections in the $60 million and up range over the course of the opening three days (via Gavin Fang). Even when compared to Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice, who holds the current title for DC movies in China, if those projections hold Aquaman will surpass it to become the highest grossing DC movie ever in the country.
https://comicbook.com/dc/2018/12/05/aquaman-highest-dc-movie-china-opening-ever/
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December 6, 2018 at 12:06 AM
Both Bumblebee and Aquaman can do 200m in China.
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December 5, 2018 at 11:36 PM
फिल्म ने बुधवार को 10 करोड़ का कलेक्शन किया है।
Read more at: https://hindi.filmibeat.com/box-office/2-0-box-office-akshay-kumar-2-0-day-7-wednesday-box-office-collection-078323.html
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December 5, 2018 at 11:36 PM
2.0 7th Day box office collections saw again good hold in its collections on Wednesday as fall in its collections from Tuesday was just 10-15% as it is again challenging to hit double digits
2.0 Box Office Collection Day 7
9-11 Crore nett Hindi Trade Figure
2.0 is already an Hit and How 2.0 performs on Second Friday when Kedarnath opens will determine how big of a hit is it going to be
https://www.bollymoviereviewz.com/2018/12/2-0-7th-day-box-office-collection-wednesday-good.html
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December 5, 2018 at 11:58 PM
2.0 Has A Strong First Week
Thursday 06 December 2018 09.30 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
2.0 (Hindi) had a noticeable drop on Wednesday as it dropped around 18% from the previous day but still it has put up strong first week numbers of 130 crore nett apprx. The film has sustained and for a South dubbed film it is exceptional.
The Monday hold was stronger than the rest of the weekdays but it is an extended week. The film should consolidate again over the second weekend as has found appreciation all over Bihar is the best maket followed by Delhi / UP. The lesser performance is Mumbai which maybe could have been little higher. The multiplexes could have done better in Mumbai and Pune
The film is on course for a certain 175 crore nett and the second Friday will tell if the film has a shot at 200 crore nett plus. The first week daily collections of 2.0 (Hindi) are as follows
Thursday – 20,00,00,000 apprx
Friday – 18,00,00,000 apprx
Saturday – 24,00,00,000 apprx
Sunday – 33,25,00,000 apprx
Monday – 13,50,00,000 apprx
Tuesday – 11,50,00,000 apprx
Wednesday – 9,50,00,000 apprx
TOTAL – 1,29,75,00,000 apprx
Note – The all India collections will be updated later on.
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December 6, 2018 at 12:08 AM
As per indian media 2.0 is going to join this elite list in china.
https://twitter.com/gavinfeng97/status/1069202905306021889
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December 6, 2018 at 12:09 AM
Rajni will ‘visually’ fit in well with his bald plate.
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December 6, 2018 at 12:31 AM
Anupam Kher comes to my mind more than Rajni.
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December 6, 2018 at 12:33 AM
No one is expecting Kher to make it big in China …
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December 6, 2018 at 1:05 PM
Time to release Ghajini
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December 6, 2018 at 12:23 AM
Aquaman preview showings have started in China. 102 NO is not even going to do 5m there. Unless chinese women faces hygiene issues like in India, v doubtful about Padman’s chances there.
http://english.entgroup.cn/boxoffice/cn/daily/?date=12%20/06%20/2018
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December 6, 2018 at 12:27 AM
For Portman fans (surprised at Annihilation topping it):
https://editorial.rottentomatoes.com/guide/all-natalie-portman-movies-ranked/
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December 6, 2018 at 12:31 AM
China Film Insider:
Thugs of Hindostan, a 2018 Indian Hindi-language action adventure film written and directed by Aditya Chopra, has scored a December 28 China release. The film stars Amitabh Bachchan and China’s favorite Indian actor Aamir Khan. Produced on an estimated budget of US$29 million, Thugs of Hindostan is one of the most expensive Indian films. Set in 1795, the film follows a band of Thugs led by Khudabaksh Azaad, who aspires to free Hindostan (the Indian subcontinent) from the rule of the expanding British East India Company.
http://chinafilminsider.com/headlines-from-china-tencent-pictures-to-board-paramounts-bumblebee-and-top-gun-2/
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December 6, 2018 at 12:32 AM
Adi may not be pleased to pull a Kanagana here!
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December 6, 2018 at 12:45 AM
Did not understand what you are trying to say.
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December 6, 2018 at 12:57 AM
This report says its directed by chopra not acharya. Last i heard kangana had officially taken directorship from krish for manikarnika.
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December 6, 2018 at 1:10 AM
If the film works, Adi will be happy for that blooper.
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December 6, 2018 at 1:12 AM
Lol
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December 6, 2018 at 12:57 AM
🤔
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December 6, 2018 at 12:37 AM
2.0 may actually finish at somewhere around 180-190 crore net in the Hindi version. definitely good for an Akshay Kumar film but the appreciation even in Hindi hasn’t come universally. it needed to do a lot better in Mumbai
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December 6, 2018 at 1:23 AM
Anything below 1000 cr ww gross is a disappointment for a 75m usd film.
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December 6, 2018 at 12:44 AM
Sushant Singh Rajput, who plays the male lead in the film, has been praised just as well for his captivating performance playing a Muslim boy in Kedarnath. While the film had quite a few bumps during its making, it seems that the end result is a delightful one, especially for Bollywood celebs. Now, the makers and the stars of the film can only hope that the general movie going audience too appreciates the film as well as the Bollywood celebs did. (Also Read: PIL seeking ban on the release of Kedarnath dismissed in Gujarat High Court – details inside)
This isn’t the only good news for team Kedarnath today. A PIL was filed against the film on December 5 accusing the project of encouraging love jihad and claiming that its release would hurt Hindu sentiments and cause law and order issues countrywide. However, the Bombay High Court has dismissed the petitioner’s request as folly and given the release of the film their go ahead.
https://www.timesnownews.com/entertainment/news/bollywood-news/article/first-reviews-out-arjun-rampal-sussanne-khan-and-others-laud-sara-ali-khan-s-performance-in-kedarnath/326726
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December 6, 2018 at 12:51 AM
How come real life love jihads like Kareena and Saif marriage did not create riots througout the country? Is not reality more influential than fiction?
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December 6, 2018 at 12:57 AM
Because Kareena did not convert?
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December 6, 2018 at 1:09 AM
Nowadays Kareena’s name appears as Kareena Kapoor Khan and their child has a muslim name. It is as well as converting. In the film the heroine may not have converted and thats why the makers are so confident. On the otherhnd, the hero might turn out to be a hindu adopted by muslim parents.
Let us wait for tomorrow.
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December 6, 2018 at 1:38 AM
Kareena and Karisma carr mother’s religion : Christian.
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December 6, 2018 at 1:39 AM
LOL! Adding her husband’s last name to her own is not converting! Do you understand what religious conversion actually means? I doubt either of them are particularly religious anyway.
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December 6, 2018 at 1:43 AM
I know what religious conversion means. Adding Khan is like adding fuel to the fire to the already tense atmosphere. I go through internet comments and so i am saying this. How do we know whether she has converted or not? That is their personal matter. Just like Hema and Dharam’s.
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December 6, 2018 at 1:20 AM
Sanjana, I’m surprised to see someone like you using these terms so lackadaisically! The whole bogeyman behind ‘Love Jihad’ claims that it is an act of terrorism that forcibly and tortuously converts Hindu women to Islam. Does that in any way apply to Kareena, who is one of the most confident and least inhibited married heroines working in Indian cinema today and who shot afilm like Veere Di Wedding while pregnant? Would you call your favourite star Aamir’s marriage(s) to Hindu women love jihad?
Even if she did convert, which she obviously didn’t, I don’t see how that can be automatically termed terrorism (if there is a forcible and abusive conversion it is a totally different issue). India is a deeply patriarchal country where most married women are still expected to leave their family and customs and adopt their husband’s family and customs as their own. Why is it perfectly OK if, say, a Jain woman marries a Punjabi man in a Sikh ceremony and proceeds to cook meat for him despite having being vegetarian all her life (something I’ve seen happen in my social circle and be accepted without much comment) but not if a Hindu woman does so for a Muslim man?
Most of my non-Indian friends would be astonished by the fact that a married woman in India is expected to live with and attend to her husband’s parents, adapt completely to their way of life and ask them for permission for many simple things (which still happens in a large number of households) and term such relationships cruel and exploitative. Would you be willing to accept such a blanket label on all Indian marriages? Why then would you casually use the term Love Jihad to refer to all Hindu woman-Muslim man relationships?
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December 6, 2018 at 1:28 AM
Yes ever inter religion marriage may not be Love Jihaad. We should we careful in our choice of words as creating religious tension is what few politicians want.
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December 6, 2018 at 2:11 AM
I worded that poorly – I meant that ALL marriages in India can’t be generalised as exploitative based on such norms (just like ALL arranged marriages can’t be generalised as forced even though there is an element of immense social pressure involved in a lot of them). I agree with what you say.
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December 6, 2018 at 1:45 AM
So u dont find such marriages exploitative? Yet you fancy urself enuf to use the name ‘inquiring’ reader!
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December 6, 2018 at 1:47 AM
Huh? What marriages should I find exploitative? Kareena and Saif?
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December 6, 2018 at 1:52 AM
Forget celebrities for a change. Try to listen to the opinions of ur non-indian frds for a change. That will suffice.
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December 6, 2018 at 2:02 AM
I don’t understand what you are trying to say…if you’re saying that marriages where women are expected to unilaterally adapt everything their husband’s family want are unfair I do agree (hence my use of the term deeply patriarchal).
However what I wanted to point out was
A) You can’t call a woman adopting her husband’s customs terrorism when it is basically a traditional expectation that is common across ALL religions in India
B) you can’t generalise all Hindu-Muslim marriages as love jihad just like (obviously) you can’t generalise all Indian marriages as oppressive and exploitative
C) it is hypocritical for Indian society to object to a woman adopting her husband’s customs on an inter-religious level alone when they are perfectly accepting of it (and in fact expect it) in all other cases
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December 6, 2018 at 2:07 AM
This is your words – “Most of my non-Indian friends would be astonished by the fact that a married woman in India is expected to live with and attend to her husband’s parents, adapt completely to their way of life and ask them for permission for many simple things (which still happens in a large number of households) and term such relationships cruel and exploitative. Would you be willing to accept such a blanket label on all Indian marriages? ”
My point is – YES, a blanket label of exploitation is not an understatement for such ‘simple’ scenarios. Does ur ‘inquiring’ mind get it now?
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December 6, 2018 at 1:50 AM
My reply was not posted. So I am typing it once again.
Aamir and Srk. Their marriages are also called love jihad on internet.
Kareena’as example was the recent one. So I took that name.
I used that term because that is how these marriages are looked by many. Though I dont support this.
And why you are bringing your favourite aamir? That is not required. Kareena is also my favourite and I supported her many times on this blog.
When I used that term, it was in reply to the film being called a love jihad them ed one. So my reply was in the same coin.
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December 6, 2018 at 1:54 AM
typos
Kareena’s example was the recent one.
When I used that term, it was in reply to the film being called a love jihad themed one. So my reply was in the same coin.
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December 6, 2018 at 1:54 AM
You are clearly a thoughtful person from the comments you make and I didn’t think you would use such offensive terms, so that’s why I made that remark. Just because some rabble-rousers use these words casually it doesn’t mean we need to. Peace!
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December 6, 2018 at 3:42 AM
@ Naveen — Why bring in Aamir here? Any chance to… 😏Yes, that shower line from Aamir was dumb, but perhaps it was intentional, the show being KWK. Karan wants controversial cheesy stuff. So.
Have not watched the KWK episode with Saif and Sara. Not watching too many of Karan’s ’s show these days. Watched the Aamir episode, only, to be honest; since he is a favourite. I forgive his occasional stupidities.
I loved watching Aamir and cousin Nuzhat in Komal Nahata’s show. Never cheesy,good fun. Also liked Komal’s show with Katrina and the TZH director, Ali Abbas Zafar. The director comes across as a thoughtful guy with a quiet sense of humour. And Katrina too came across as a fun person. She seems to have loosened up over the years.
Sara comes across as a bright young kid. Watched her in two interviews, one with Anupama and another one. Good for her, getting all these chances to showcase herself before her films release. Wish other newbies could get such opportunities.
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December 6, 2018 at 12:55 AM
Can we have a thread for this upcoming film? I sense a good film, a brand new heroine who is going to be worth it. One can see in her profile, a resemblance to her mother Amrita. In her interviews she comes across as sensible and respectful.
https://skjbollywoodnews.com/8-things-you-can-expect-in-kedarnath/
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December 6, 2018 at 1:34 AM
I have to say I find the premise of this film to be in very bad taste. Why use a real tragedy that cost people their lives as base for a fictional plot and suggest it happened because of some kind of a lover’s spat?
Having said that, Sara is a refreshing change from Bollywood’s interchangeable model-turned-actress assembly line. I watched KWK for the first time in a very long time for her and I thought she handled Saif’s boorishness with maturity and humour. He came across as a terrible, immature father and had none of the royal sophistication that he tried hard to project; his daughter at 25 was far more dignified!
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December 6, 2018 at 1:44 AM
Agree on the KWK episode. Aamir too came across in same zone as Saif.
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December 6, 2018 at 1:52 AM
E P I C B L O C K B U S T E R
Week 2.0 commences!
https://twitter.com/karanjohar/status/1070535283203022848
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December 6, 2018 at 2:08 AM
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December 6, 2018 at 2:08 AM
Forget inter religious. Even inercaste marriages are not accepted. In Telengana a boy was killed in front of many for doing just that. It is only one of the examples. Only the very rich celebrities are protected from being lynched for marrying outside caste and religion.
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December 6, 2018 at 2:15 AM
Intercaste marriages are not accepted, forget inter religious ones.
When we warm up to intercaste marriages, half the problem will be solved.
Marriages should be left to the boy and girl. But films like DDLj propagate marriage with the consent of the family which rarely happens. It happens only in films. That is why a Sairat is celebrated for bringing out the raw realities to the fore.
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December 6, 2018 at 2:20 AM
This is true! Unlike other countries (not just in Europe but also in Asia and Africa) where such rigid norms have eased away with time and with increase in income/ cultural exposure they have managed to stubbornly persist in India. I read an illuminating survey about how rare inter-caste marriage still is and how little it is growing with time but I can’t find it now.
I think the rich are some of the most caste and status conscious people and put even more pressure on their children to make strategic alliances that benefit them and make them look good within whichever business community they belong to. And there are many cases of rich families intimidating, abusing and even killing the ‘unsuitable’ grooms their daughters chose.
In that sense, Bollywood and it’s many fluid inter caste/ religion (and now interracial marriages) are a rare and welcome beacon of cosmopolitanism in the country. And before people say it’s only one-sided, let’s not forget that Sussane Roshan married Hrithik and Soha married Kunal Khemu, for instance.
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December 6, 2018 at 2:24 AM
also Nargis married Sunil dutt.
I myself had an unusual marriage and we are a very happy couple and our families have also accepted us when it happened.
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December 6, 2018 at 2:37 AM
So urs was like DDLJ?
Atleast give the poor movie its due!!!
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December 6, 2018 at 2:38 AM
It is too personal and I cant spill the beans!
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December 6, 2018 at 2:47 AM
Problem with ddlj is that the boy had to cunningly suck up to the girl’s family to get the job done. Also he had an unreal devta like father in the first place … talk abt realism in chopra/johar universe.
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December 6, 2018 at 3:01 AM
Wasnt it losely based on a true story?
BTW, Akshay’s Dhadkan was at the other end of girl’s choice not being as good as father’s choice. The movie was quite a big thing then at smaller centres.
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December 6, 2018 at 2:09 AM
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December 6, 2018 at 2:09 AM
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December 6, 2018 at 3:32 AM
I married a Christian woman too. does that fall under love jihad? B)
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December 6, 2018 at 4:03 AM
Unless you want to give it an exotic name, its only marriage between two consulting adults.
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December 6, 2018 at 3:38 PM
does that fall under love jihad? B)
It’s called: ‘You Got Nailed.’
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December 6, 2018 at 3:33 AM
Quite funny that when bollywood is struggling to cut a decnet trailer for its biggies like zero and simmba, KGF has released 2 cracking trailers.
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December 6, 2018 at 12:34 PM
Looks heavily inspired from Kaala Patthar and Deewaar imo.
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December 6, 2018 at 4:00 AM
Where Does The Credit Of The Hindi Version Of 2.0 Go
Thursday 06 December 2018 13.30 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
Q. Where does the credit go for the Hindi version of 2.0 you have said Akshay Kumar as its dubbed but Bahubali – The Conclusion with no stars did even bigger so its the content of the film really and not Akshay Kumar?
Shahid Butt
A. See obviously when a film works in the long run then its content. The point that was made is that till date all dubbed films released in Hindi markets have been driven by Mumbai circuit. Bahubali – The Conclusion is the only exception which had business which was uniform but that had huge brand value by the time it released. Even the first Bahubali film had 50% business from Mumbai on day one. 2.0 was being led by Delhi / UP, East Punjab, Rajasthan and Bihar and this is where Akshay Kumar has a strong market so its not hard to work out that he is the reason why this dubbed film behaved differently.
Q. I would just like to point out to you that Rajnikant may have been a big star five years ago in Tamil Nadu but now younger stars have taken over and lead at the box office in Tamil Nadu and it could be that your calculations are wrong and the Tamil Nadu trade is spot on and 13 crore is the first day gross for 2.0.
S. Kurusar
A. You may be right and there may be bigger younger stars due to the age factor but we are not really going into who is the biggest star in Tamil Nadu as you may know better. Filmwatchers there will have a good idea of that. Even if others have taken over nobody can take away the fact that Rajnikant as been huge in TN since 1980 which is a long time to be at the at top or now near the top as you put it. As for box office numbers it does not matter who is number one or number two as you compare collections and not stars.
It is difficult to make too many comments against another industry as our mailbox will be flooded that its boxofficeHINDI and not boxofficeINDIA as has happened before. Lets just say there is an issue with reporting, as figures going around do not match cinema collections which is the only way to track box office as its done across the world. It seems that figures are worked through shares when shares should be worked out from the collections and a lot extra is lumped on day one but that extra does not seem to be the same for all films. There was a Tamil film released on Diwali and the GROSS figures going around for that was 33 crore and for 2.0 it was 13 crore but from actual cinema numbers this is impossible. There are limited cinema DCR’s (daily collections reports) in Tamil Nadu but the ones which are there were at best 60% in favour of the Diwali release but then some were the same. But the reported GROSS figures are almost 300% more for the Diwali release. It is the same state so you are not going to have films collecting similar at some places and then 200-300% gap in others. The only way this sort of gap comes is when the release size is lopsided or a huge difference in screenings at places which should not be the case here as 2.0 itself is a huge film. There are a lot more cinema collections after the week is out so a better judgement can be made but looking at what cinema collections are available at present it is certain that if the Diwali release was 33 crore then 2.0 is not 13 crore and if 2.0 is 13 crore then the Diwali release is not 33 crore. This even a five year can make out by comparing cinema numbers. The industry should come out of tracking through shares as it will always be off as far as actual collections go. The real cinema data for Tamil Nadu is limited on a daily basis but a much wider sample is available when the week is out so if the analysts in the state have the access and work through them then there will be more realistic numbers. This is just an observation from the outside and not about Hindi film industry being better than the Tamil industry.
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December 6, 2018 at 4:13 AM
Weighted average opening day credit model…
Hindi
Shankar 30% – sequel, TV factor
Akshay Kumar 50% – Hindi star
Rajni 20% – opened Robot to 5Cr? And has minimal stardom in North
South, all versions…
Shankar 45%, Rajni 45% – both driving the collections down South
Akshay 10% – the residual South business lost by having less Hindi prints replaced by regional versions.
Akshay’s all India contribution 10Cr (50% of opening day, North) + 10% of regional net whatever that is (64-20 = 44*10% = 4.4Cr, South). Opening day = 14.4Cr for Akshay, considering it’s Thursday that’s decent enough.
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December 6, 2018 at 4:14 AM
This second answer is so spot on specially the sarkar part…2.0 did more than sarkar in Chennai city on day 1 and did only 16cr gross as per ABO but sarkar did 33 cr gross with a lesser Chennai number. I had pointed this out that I have never seen such a thing in kollywood before and i have followed this market now for over 7 years…the BW numbers also indicate that Chennai was higher for 2.0…I can understand post day 1 the smaller towns didnt go for 2.0 due to WOM..but on day 1 a rajni Shankar movie releasing wide and doing better in Chennai but not in TN doesnt make any sense..and it’s not that it was falling short by 1 cr…it was a good 17cr lower than sarkar for day 1…I have raked my brains on this and have left at that as there is obviously no way to know the real number..but that day 1 TN number still rankles me whenever I think of it..quite bizarre that BOI also talked about the same thing.
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December 6, 2018 at 5:29 AM
I can only say this. Boi may be right in implying Sarkar team had done a Rakesh Roshan with numbers. But that does not mean we have to accept the 2.0 numbers with blind faith either. Indian BO is a system of abuse, and everyone abuses it to various degrees. 2.0 numbers are likely to be as much bull as Ra.One numbers were.
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December 6, 2018 at 4:50 AM
TN numbers:
https://www.ibtimes.co.in/2-0-7th-day-box-office-collection-tamil-nadu-rajinikanths-film-earns-this-amount-first-week-787234
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December 6, 2018 at 7:04 AM
The latest 7 day Tamil gross from boi is similar to this number..infaxt the Tamil gross is matching with ABO also largely
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December 6, 2018 at 5:17 AM
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December 6, 2018 at 5:21 AM
great one!
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December 6, 2018 at 5:28 AM
2.0 Week One All India GROSS – Hindi Markets Set For 50%
Thursday 06 December 2018 15.30 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
2.0 had GROSS of 362 crore apprx in India in seven days with the Hindi markets contributing around 47% of the all India business. This should eventually go over to around 50%. The contribution of Bahubali – The conclusion was 46% for the Hindi markets but that is because the home market of Bahubali – The Conclusion (Andhra) has bigger potential than the home market of 2.0 (Tamil Nadu)
If the film is right than the Hindi markets do add to these South Indian films. Only five South Indian films have crossed 300 crore worldwide and all have Hindi releases. Obviously the South films cant be the normal films about a youth in Hyderabad or Chennai be it action or love story genre but if the scale is bigger and does not give the feel of regionality then there is potential for business in Hindi markets.
2.0 will hit the 500 crore mark worldwide it its extended first week with figures standing at 480 crore apprx in seven days. The break down of the India GROSS business in week one is as follows..
Hindi Markets – 170 crore (including Tamil and Telugu versions playing in Hindi circuits)
Tamil Nadu – 75 crore
Nizam / Andhra – 64 crore (Not including Marathawada which is a part of this circuit for the regular Hindi film. For this film Marathawada has been put in Hindi markets).
Karnataka – 36 crore
Kerala – 17 crore
TOTAL – 362 crore
The ratios are as follows
Hindi Markets – 46.96%
Tamil Nadu – 20.72%
Nizam / Andhra – 17.68%
Karnataka – 9.94%
Kerala – 4.70%
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December 6, 2018 at 5:33 AM
Who does marathwada represent? Which states or which regions do they represent? I just dont understand marathwada being a separate entity. Is it Goa?
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December 6, 2018 at 5:35 AM
According to wiki
It is a region of the Indian state of Maharashtra. The region coincides with the Aurangabad Division of Maharashtra. It borders the states of Karnataka and Telangana, and it lies to the west of the Vidarbha and east of Khandesh regions of Maharashtra. The largest city of Marathwada is Aurangabad. Its people speak Marathi and Dakhini.
The term Marathwada means the house of Marathi people, that is land occupied by the Marathi-speaking population of the former Hyderabad state during the period of Nizam rule. The term can be traced to 18th century state records of the Nizam of Hyderabad.
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December 6, 2018 at 5:44 AM
Excel Entertainment’s Ritesh Sidhwani said, “I don’t think it is a clash or a fight for the space. I think there is enough space. The reason we’re coming on the same date is because it is an important festive date for south and we’re releasing in four different south Indian languages. We couldn’t have delayed it.”
“We’re not aiming to go as wide as ‘Zero’ in the north Indian market. So there will be no clash.”
Excel Entertainment, known for commercial Hindi drama films, such as ‘Rock On!! 2‘, ‘Raees‘, ‘Fukrey‘ series, ‘Gold‘ and many more, is now backing up ‘KGF‘ which is a Kannada film. Sidhwani says cinema has overcome the language barrier.
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December 6, 2018 at 5:59 AM
https://www.jackace.in/2017/07/Kedarnath-Box-Office-Budget-Cast-Hit-Flop-Posters-Predictions-Release-Story.html
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December 6, 2018 at 6:58 AM
Somewhat misleading headline.
https://www.news18.com/news/movies/rajinikanth-2-0-box-office-collection-s-shankar-film-hindi-version-defeats-baahubali-creates-multiple-records-1962297.html
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December 6, 2018 at 6:59 AM
Akshay Kumar: Game changer
http://www.forbesindia.com/article/2018-celebrity-100/akshay-kumar-game-changer/51977/1
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December 6, 2018 at 8:15 AM
Kedarnath Movie Review Quicker: Sushant Singh Rajput & Sara Ali Khan Will Tangle You In Aww-dmiration!
https://www.koimoi.com/reviews/kedarnath-movie-review-quicker-sushant-singh-rajput-sara-ali-khan-will-tangle-you-in-aww-dmiration/
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December 6, 2018 at 8:50 AM
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/hindi/movie-reviews/kedarnath/movie-review/66971514.cms
Full movie review.
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December 6, 2018 at 9:00 AM
https://www.hindustantimes.com/hollywood/golden-globes-2019-complete-list-of-nominations-a-star-is-born-black-panther-bohemian-rhapsody-lead-the-way/story-NWwukianZOmmJuwrvNk3QL.html
Golden Globes 2019 complete list of nominations: A Star is Born, Black Panther, Bohemian Rhapsody lead the way
The Golden Globe nominations were announced on Thursday, with A Star is Born, Mary Poppins Returns leading the race.
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December 6, 2018 at 11:57 AM
Can anybody explain why India is virtually absent from the international awards stage?
A couple of films in the late fifties, one Salaam Bombay in the eighties, three Indian film nominations in the noghties ( Lagaan oscar nomination and Monsoon Wedding Golden Globes nom, both in 2002; RDB nomination at BAFTA 2007). One could list on half a page, the list of Indian nominations. Have we won anything ?
Satyajit Ray was given an honorary Oscar before his death, right?
Our Indian film industry is over a hundred years old. Surely we have produced some gems. Off the top of my head I could name at least ten terrific films that entertained and provoked the viewer’s interest.
Why don’t we feature alongside films from Germany ( have watched the GG nominated Goodbye Lenin), Austria ( watched the exquisite and intense Amour), Iran, China (Crouching Tiger…)….
Genuinely wondering.
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December 6, 2018 at 12:04 PM
Maybe they are not that interested. It takes time and some hardwork.
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December 6, 2018 at 12:11 PM
I don’t mean this in a bad way but generally the west views indian films with very little respect. Also the musical format is frowned upon. Indian films even amongst NRI’s get polarised views. How I stereotypically dirade every indian serial as one which is my ignorance is how many think of indian films. Admitting to liking indian films can be seen as uncool. Just my experience. So even my white friend who loves cricket and curries laughs at the synopsis of Lagaan. Just like how I laugh at how in general Caucasian parents kick their kids out of their homes or ask for rent, generally a lot of taboo is attached with indian films.
I’ll even extend this to India as a tourist destination. It’s criminal how many people I’ve met who shudder at the thought of going to India because of stories they’ve heard. India doesn’t do marketing well enough. It’s a magical country and films are much more guilty pleasures and acquired tastes for many 20-30 somethings. I have a huge family…some 30 first cousins. They’ll all know Bachchan or SRK. Ask them the last major film they saw from India and how, I reckon it will be TV and not cinema for 90% of them. If it’s not culturally interwoven for NRI, expecting non NRI is a distant dream.
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December 6, 2018 at 12:17 PM
Thought provoking and interesting observations.
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December 6, 2018 at 12:23 PM
But Indian cinema does have foreign fans too. I know some Germans, Brazilians, Russians …all interested enough. Besides other countries, as we see these days.
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December 6, 2018 at 12:26 PM
Add Turkey, Egypt, China, Taiwan, Japan, Malaysia, Poland.
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December 6, 2018 at 12:40 PM
But this is a miniscule minority. I’ve lived in Munich for 6 months…my means to watch an indian movie was to join a club (embarrassing enough whilst living with an Irish guy) and watching a film every now and then. Otherwise it’s a very small market. This idea that foreign people watch Indian films in vast sums is nothing more than a dream, dreamt up by SRK fans in mid 2000’s that Germany, Austria etc is full of SRK fans.
These markets still are driven in the main by NRI’s, more than likely your infosys, genpact indian offshore/onshore employees of big companies. Not your traditional Caucasian Brazilian, German friends. Only in London or major American cities will you see a wider demographic and even this is like 1-2%, rest will be of indian origin.
This is why China, Japan, Malaysia etc are so interesting to understand for indian producers. Also parts of Africa, Turkey etc. These are on the whole demographic of people with situations similar to Indians so films will more likely resonate their.
Growth in UK is over. So many Indians now it can’t grow more. The only other option is stuff like Slumdog Millionaire where India co produces stuff like this with West to entice audience in. Otherwise what you see is a very niche market that is pretty much negligible unless we talk of China.
US has growth but it seems here the South Indian movies are seeing it not Bollywood.
Bottom line it’s not a country that has been prolific in producing quality cinema in the eyes of the non Indians. Some of it is ignorance, some truth, some pure disinterest in song and dance.
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December 6, 2018 at 12:51 PM
Thanks for your views. Interesting.
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December 6, 2018 at 1:35 PM
I’m no expert here on this topic. I would love to hear Saket’s view here.
Indian food travels well, so do skill sets and intelligence of indian education but movies have a huge mountain to climb. And I doubt I would say this is just an indian issue. Even these European countries’ cinema is hardly much more popular. At least Indian films release in UK in huge volumes. Street shops sell dvds in volumes. But I hardly see any European cinema in show listings, I’d have to go to an arthouse cinema for that.
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December 6, 2018 at 12:25 PM
A film like Teesri Kasam, speaks through its music.
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December 6, 2018 at 12:30 PM
A film like Peepli Live — one of my favourite films (and not because Aamir produced it) — love its black humour,the topic about rural migration. There was only a background song. Or a film like The Lunchbox. Deliciously sweet and funny. Why are such films never in the running?
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December 6, 2018 at 12:39 PM
As Jay says, we dont promote our films as much as it should be. There are festival films like Manto which gets screenings at international film festivals. Slightly commercial films or hardcore commercial films have little chance as they are hampered by songs and some other factors.
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December 6, 2018 at 12:01 PM
https://www.khaleejtimes.com/citytimes/bollywood/kedarnath-movie-review-does-sara-ali-khan-impress-in-her-debut
Kedarnath is getting mixed reviews.
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December 6, 2018 at 12:21 PM
It looks like Kanika Dhillon messed up this time. Maybe audience will like it. It is compared to 70s melodramas.
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December 6, 2018 at 1:06 PM
Although a tad too late, yet today I have finally managed to watch TOH. And Aamir fans might be upset at me for my opinion on it and his acting but still i’ll go ahead and say TOH to be ‘worse’ than ‘Mela’!! It might sound sacrilegious to Aamir fans but I consider Dhoom 3 to be infinitely better than TOH. What did Aamir see in such a ‘horrendous’ script including his role which was just too mechanical and devoid of any shade whatsoever as i was really flabbergasted by the movie, its ‘infantile’ premise, unimaginative screenplay and horrible dialogues despite going with very low expectations after all the bashings the movie received.
And biggest shock for me is that Aamir spent 2 years on such a piece of garbage which has nothing at all, not a single saving grace in the entire movie. It is made in such a Haphazard manner as if the entire script was written just in the wake of Bahubali’s phenomenal success without any deep thought going into it. There was nothing in the story which could justify the first time coming together of 2 legends of Indian film industry, just an absolutely wasted opportunity by YRF, VK Acharya and Aamir himself as such opportunities don’t come time and again. One thing i have deduced from the debacle of TOH is that Aamir does not have a grip on ‘fantastical’ stuff as is evident from his past failures in Mela as well. He has an exceptional gift of dealing in human drama and stories which are human, real and relatable which is evident by his stellar films which revolve mostly around these basic themes. This purple patch had to come to an end sooner or later as it was too long a period for any artist not to undergo failure of any sort since Mela in 2000!! But i hope and wish this setback will motivate Aamir to come back with a bang as he did in 2001 by coming up with 2 all time classics in the form of Lagaan and DCH.
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December 6, 2018 at 1:29 PM
I won’t disagree at all but I probably liked it a bit more. But I understand your absolute distain here.
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December 6, 2018 at 2:37 PM
I was planning on watching it in London couple weeks back…but after the negative reviews I just didn’t have the enthusiasm to watch it. I’ll probably watch it when it comes on TV or something…but from the trailers it didn’t look as bad as Mela…I mean…Mela was horrendous piece of cinema. lol. I’m really curious how Aamir will go about this failure…I’m glad he’s accepted it as a failure..now I’m curious what his next plan of action is going to be.
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