#3 World Cup – Sridevi beats Madhuri (Sadma wins)
Winner winner winner!
4 GROUPS OF RANDOMLY CHOSEN FILMS THAT STAR MADHURI DIXIT AND SRIDEVI EACH – 4 FILMS IN EACH GROUP
2 MATCHES EVERY OTHER DAY FROM EACH GROUP – votes equal points
BLOGGERS TO VOTE ON WHICH FILM WINS – only need the winning film and if you like a reason for victory. No essays! In The event of a tie score at the end of group stages – the head to head match will determine the victor. In the event of a tie head to head my vote will determine the victor.
TOP 2 FROM EACH GROUP TO GO THROUGH TO FINAL 16 –
ROUND 16 – WILL BE 8 MATCHES OF MADHURI VS SRIDEVI – (head to head) RANDOMLY CHOSEN
QF/SF – RANDOMLY CHOSEN (if even number of films of each star make it through, I will ensure it is HEAD to HEAD)
In the event of tie scores, the highest score from Group will proceed, if this is a tie, my vote will be final!
Final Group Standings
| Group 1 | |
| Lamhe | 33 |
| Janbaaz | 19 |
| Laadla | 14 |
| Himmatwala | 8 |
| Group 2 | |
| Mr India | 31 |
| Sadma | 20 |
| Khuda Gawah | 19 |
| Judaai | 4 |
| Group 3 | |
| English Vinglish | 27 |
| Chandni | 24 |
| Nagina | 18 |
| Gurudev | 5 |
| Group 4 | |
| Chaalbaaz | 29 |
| Gumrah | 16 |
| Aakhree Raasta | 16 |
| Mom | 13 |
| Group 5 | |
| Tezaab | 25 |
| Hum Aapke Hain Koun | 22 |
| Saajan | 21 |
| Dil To Pagal Hai | 6 |
| Group 6 | |
| Pukar | 23 |
| Prem Pratigya | 20 |
| Beta | 18 |
| Raja | 13 |
| Group 7 | |
| Parinda | 26 |
| Khal Nayak | 25 |
| Devdas | 18 |
| Yaarana | 5 |
| Group 8 | |
| Dil | 28 |
| Aaja Nachle | 19 |
| Anjaam | 14 |
| Koyla | 13 |
Quarter Final Madhuri Vs Sridevi Results
Lamhe 10 Dil 2
Sadma 10 Pukar 2
Chandni 8 Hum Aapke Hain Koun 4
Mr India 8 Chaalbaaz 2
Semi Finals Results
Sadma 7 Mr India 6
Lamhe 6 Chandni 7
Final
Sadma 8 Chandni 3
SATYAMSHOT 
December 9, 2018 at 2:18 PM
Sorry For Group 5 – tough luck!
My votes for group stage round robin 1
Janbaaz
Lamhe
Mr India
Khuda Gawah
Chandni
English Vinglish
Chaalbaaz
Gumrah
Saajan
Hum Aapke Hain Koun
Beta
Pukar
Khal Nayak
Devdas
Dil
Aaja Nachle
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December 9, 2018 at 2:21 PM
Please use the same naming convention that is in the post when voting. Voting for Group Stage Round Robin 1 ends Tuesday GMT 8PM.
Must admit, haven’t seen all of Sridevi’s films here…so some are hunches.
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December 9, 2018 at 2:39 PM
Once again. There are no specific guidelines to picking one film over another. You can choose a film for whatever reason you want. If I have missed a favourite, I apologise already! It’s just a game!
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December 9, 2018 at 4:48 PM
Madhuri in Yaarana?
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December 9, 2018 at 4:54 PM
Yes, according to wiki. I have not seen many of these films. So it is tricky. Let me see how others do it.
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December 9, 2018 at 5:23 PM
Sadma , Mr india, Khuda Gawah and Judaai – All in one group of initial stage. That is pretty dumb grouping.
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December 9, 2018 at 5:31 PM
madhuri has some major hits in her career but her filmography is so weak. I can pick 4 Sridevi movies which are far superior than entire career of Madhuri.
Anyways, my pick would be –
Sadma
Mr india
Khuda Gawah
English Vinglish
ChaalBaaz
Nagina
MOM
Kalakaar
And innumerable Tamil & Telugu movies.
hard to pick any madhuri’s performance, they all are so weak. Still
Beta
Parinda
Btw, beta was offered to sridevi who refused it because she had already worked in its original Telugu Blockbuster version and she was doing multiple movies with Anil kapoor. But, it turned out to be one of her many bad decisions during early 90s.
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December 9, 2018 at 5:52 PM
I have seen most of these movies in theatre.
Am i the real movie geek here?
Wow these are tough choices. 🙂
I am starting group by Group for Sri Devi first.
Group 1 – Lamhe. Jaanbaaz has Sri in iconic special appearance. She was at her peak then and movie recovered whatever it could due to her.
Group 2 – Sadma Vs Mr India…this is real tough one. I will pick Mr India. As a kid i loved her performance. Esp the Charlie Chaplin one in the casino was a hoot.
Group 3 – This is probably the toughest group so far. Three blockbusters – nagina and Chandni along with EV. My pick will be Chandni and probably my best Sridevi movie ever.
Group 4 – Chalbaaz has to be here despite the fact that i really liked her in MOM.
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December 9, 2018 at 6:35 PM
So my choices for Sridevi are –
Lamhe
Mr India
Chandni
Chalbaaz
Madhuri will need to wait. She made me wait for years. Now it is my turn to keep her waiting.
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December 9, 2018 at 9:26 PM
Can anyone explain to me this format? Are you going to make sridevi vs madhuri movies competing with each other at some stage? Or it is individual competition among their own movies? If so, we can have two separate posts as there are so many iconic movies of sri which are not even mentioned and many are from tamil and telugu.
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December 9, 2018 at 9:57 PM
That would have been fair but Jay wants competition between the two. For example if Mr.India is top film for Sri and HAHK for Madhuri, then the competition will be between Mr.India and HAHK.
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December 10, 2018 at 1:12 AM
They will compete after Group Stage. 8 matches of Sridevi Vs Madhuri. Obviously after that I can’t vouch that they will always compete as we might end up with 5 Madhuri films and 3 Sridevi ones so I will ensure 3 of the QF’s are Madhuri Vs Sridevi and the last one is Madhuri Vs Madhuri.
Hopefully it will even up but it might end up being a Sridevi Vs Sridevi final!
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December 9, 2018 at 9:54 PM
Sridevi looks luminous. Her acting may have problems but she has variety of films some of which did not get mention here. Jumping from one industry to another with a language so different is not easy.
Unlike Rekha, Hema and some others, she made a lasting impact in the south industry with a number of hit films to her credit.
In this respect, she is incomparable.
Madhuri had to tackle only one industry and now she is trying to do some marathi films. Unfortunately her filmography in bollywood films is not memorable and only her acting remains memorable. There cannot be another Madhuri. Even Deepika cant match Madhuri in looks, dancing or acting. For me Beta remains Madhuri’s best film. And Parinda too. I heard good things about Yaarana too.
Chandni would have been different with Madhuri. Madhuri easily could have done all of Sri’s films and they would have been as good if not much better. But boxoffice was doubtful as Sri’s pull was at a different level in those times.
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December 9, 2018 at 10:15 PM
Group 1
Himmatwala
Lamhe
Group 2
Sadma
Khuda Gawah
Group 3
Nagina
Gurudev
Group 4
Aakhree Raasta
Gumrah
Group 5
Tezaab
Hum Aapke Hain Koun
Group 6
Beta
Pukar
Group 7
Parinda
Yaarana
Group 8
Anjaam
Aaja Nachle
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December 9, 2018 at 11:06 PM
I am changing to Mr. India for Sri instead of Sadma. The issue is fun element. Mr. India has so much fun.
And Dil toh Pagal Hai for Madhuri instead of HAHK. The issue is songs. I like DTPH songs more.
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December 9, 2018 at 11:19 PM
Mr. India is one of my all-time favourites! It’s hard to beat the nostalgia of that one, and Shekhar Kapur made an example of how to make a fun superhero film without a hint of cheesiness
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December 9, 2018 at 10:52 PM
Group 1
Janbaaz
Lamhe
Group 2
Mr India
Khuda Gawah
Group 3
Chandni
English Vinglish
Group 4
Chaalbaaz
Mom
Group 5
Tezaab
Hum Aapke Hain Koun
Group 6
Beta
Pukar
Group 7
Parinda
Devdas
Group 8
Dil
Koyla
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December 9, 2018 at 11:17 PM
these ladies for a major part made the 80s and 90s bearable. Madhuri’s tenure extended till Devdas but it won’t be wrong to say they were the highlight in many, many of their films.
Sridevi especially stole the show from Anil in Mr. India! It was quite an achievement, in an era with hardly any female centric subjects, and in a film that was all about a male superhero!
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December 10, 2018 at 1:22 AM
Indian John and Naveen please follow Sanjana and Tony’s examples as viable answers.
Please pick a film from each of the following;
Group 1
Himmatwala Vs Janbaaz
Lamhe Vs Laadla
Group 2
Sadma Vs Mr India
Khuda Gawah Vs Judaai
Group 3
Nagina Vs Chandni
Gurudev Vs English Vinglish
Group 4
Aakhree Raasta Vs Chaalbaaz
Gumrah Vs Mom
Group 5
Tezaab Vs Saajan
Hum Aapke Hain Koun Vs Dil To Pagal Hai
Group 6
Prem Pratigya Vs Beta
Raja Vs Pukar
Group 7
Parinda Vs Khal Nayak
Yaarana Vs Devdas
Group 8
Dil Vs Anjaam
Koyla Vs Aaja Nachle
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December 10, 2018 at 1:29 AM
Group 1
Jaanbaaz
Lamhe
Group 2
Mr India
Khuda Gawah
Group 3
Chandni
English Vinglish
Group 4
Chaalbaaz
Mom
Group 5
Saajan
Hum Aapke Hain Koun
Group 6
Beta
Raja
Group 7
Khal Nayak
Yaarana
Group 8
Dil
Koyla
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December 10, 2018 at 1:38 AM
Group 1
Janbaaz
Lamhe
Group 2
Sadma
Khuda Gawah
Group 3
Chandni
English Vinglish
Group 4
Chaalbaaz
Mom
Group 5
Tezaab
Hum Aapke Hain Koun
Group 6
Prem Pratigya
Pukar
Group 7
Parinda
Devdas
Group 8
Dil
Aaja Nachle
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December 10, 2018 at 2:14 AM
Group Stage – Round Robin 1
Group 1
Janbaaz
Laadla
Group 2
Mr India
Khuda Gawah
Group 3
Chandni
English Vinglish
Group 4
Chaalbaaz
Mom
Group 5
Tezaab
Hum Aapke Hain Koun
Group 6
Prem Pratigya
Raja
Group 7
Parinda
Devdas
Group 8
Dil
Koyla
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December 10, 2018 at 2:33 AM
surprised to see ram lakhan, mrityudand, tohfa missing
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December 10, 2018 at 2:37 AM
Yes some have not made it here unfortunately!
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December 10, 2018 at 3:18 AM
MADHURI. MADHURI, MADHURI. MADHURI. MADHURI, MADHURI.
There, I said it. Sridevi not a PATCH on Madhuri. Contest closed. Winner announced.
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December 10, 2018 at 3:41 AM
I woke up in the 80’s so very hard to constructively favour Sridevi, seems she’s more of the 80’s star here plus with me not being familiar with her Southern films I really emphatically am all in for Madhuri here.
Just devastated that Tezaab, Saajan, HAHK, DTPH all found themselves in one group! We lose 2 of them. I don’t think I could sit through the latter 2 without Madhuri and music…
I guess I missed the major Sridevi craze.
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December 10, 2018 at 4:19 AM
Same thing will be said about Salman after 20 or 10 years depending on his longevity as a star.
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December 10, 2018 at 4:32 AM
1. Jaanbaaz
2. Lamhe
3. Sadma
4. Judaai
5. Nagina
6. English Vinlish
7. Chaalbaaz
8.Gumraah
9. Tezaab
10. HAHK
11. Beta
12. Pukar
13. Parinda
14. Devdas
15. Dil
16. Aaja Nachla
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December 10, 2018 at 4:56 AM
I like both. Both are par excellence. Both have their own charm. But I believe Madhuri is more versatile and is a complete package if you look at subtleties.
I remember there was time when Sridevi had hit films like Karma, Jaanbaaz, Nagina and Mr. India in 1986 and 1987. Sridevi established no 1 position after that in bollywood.
Just next year around 1988 and 1989 Madhuri Dixit had hits like Tezaab, Ram Lakhan,and Tridev. She was good and people termed her as good and competetive and some started comparing her with Sridevi.
In 1990 other than Kishen Kaniya, Madhuri gave biggest hit of the year Dil. Sridevi also came up with hit films like Chandni and Chaalbaaz around late 1989-1990.
In 1991, Madhuri Dixit had Saajan. In 1991, Sridevi had Lamhe which was not great success in India but overseas.
In 1992, Madhuri Dixit had Beta and Sridevi had Khuda Gawah. Beta did well in India. Khuda Gawah failed at box office in India but was hit overseas.
Sridevi had average success in films like Gumrah in 1993. On the other hand, Madhuri’s Khalnayak was hit in 1993. Sridevi’s position weakened in 1992 and 1993. Madhuri Dixit was still not proclaimed no 1.
Then came Hum Aapke Hain Kaun in 1994 where she looked stunning. She was proclaimed no 1 only after Hum Aapke Hain Kaun. She looked better than Sridevi in that movie. She looked as gorgeous as Madhubala. There are some places she looks so good that no actress can beat her. But that does not mean one movie can decide and we can say that Madhuri is best actress ever and better than Sridevi.
1. Acting Skills
Both are natural in front of camera. They have great screen presence. Both look believable in whatever they are portraying. I cannot compare their movies and it wouldn’t be fair as well. I believe Madhuri had a tough time considering the kind of films being made in the 90’s . Sridevi was already popular when Madhuri was introduced, hence had more box-office pull in late 80’s. Madhuri came into the picture with Tezaab, Ram Lakhan, Dil etc. All were movies which were hero-centric, while Sri Devi got female-oriented movies like Nagina, Chandramukhi, Chaalbaaz, etc. Sridevi got a much wider spectrum to display her acting skills. And madhuri had to do her best in whatever little screen time she got and she did spectacularly. I think Indian Cinema hasn’t done enough justice to these two actresses. They have so many roles for an old Amitabh Bacchan, but hardly any roles for old Sridevi and Madhuri. Javed Akhtar said that Indian audience has seen only a fraction of talent of both Sridevi and Madhuri. They didn’t get good roles and both have still achieved so much with whatever little they have got.
Both are captivating and have tremendous screen presence and both overshadowed their fellow co-stars.
If I have to choose one, as a kid of 90’s it would be Sridevi and as a mature audience, it would be Madhuri. I feel Madhuri is more versatile with her comic sense, voice modulation, expressions and other subtleties.
2. Choice of movies
I would say both did very good movies and their choices were more.
3. Beauty
Beauty lies in eyes of beholder. For ME, Madhuri is more beautiful. I like the big eyes of Sridevi. She looks innocent because of them. Madhuri because of her doe-shaped eyes, high cheek-bones, aquiline nose looks like a QUEEN.
4. Character
Based on interviews, both are private people. They don’t bad-mouth anyone. All co-stars praise them. All call them humble.
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December 10, 2018 at 5:31 AM
Wow Naveen! Excellent!
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December 10, 2018 at 5:45 AM
Feels like Sridevi in 90’s had a few hiccups in major projects whilst Madhuri blossomed.
Seems they had so many films with Anil Kapoor.
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December 10, 2018 at 5:52 AM
But her comeback was better with English Vinglish and Mom. Her early death deprived us of more films from her.
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December 10, 2018 at 5:58 AM
Agree. Sri Devi’s comeback films and her acting were way better than Madhuri’s comeback films. In fact, old Madhuri is quite irritating now that she is far from the sexy siren she used to be. Never thought much of her acting anyways. That way perhaps Sri was better in nineties too. Its like Deepika is not a great actor, but better than the likes of Anushka or Priyanka.
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December 10, 2018 at 6:13 AM
Absolutely. Loved EV and Mom is pretty good. Madhuri in AN is decent enough and after that it’s been poor, I’d hardly call hers an attempt at all as a comeback.
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December 10, 2018 at 7:32 PM
Madhuri’s comeback attempt has so far not honored her stardom.
Hopefully 2019 releases like Total Dhamaal and Takht reverses the trend.
She is too good to not make it big soon.
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December 10, 2018 at 7:32 PM
Sorry Kalank, not Takht.
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December 10, 2018 at 6:55 PM
Yes Sri couldn’t maintain her stardom in 90s. There was a tectonic shift happening then in terms of movie making from 80s masala to 90s romantic films. Sri entered hindi films rather easily via south indian remakes with Jeetendra. Then Rekha was the biggest heroine in early 80s and for a long time it was Rekha Vs Sri.
Sridevi zoomed pass Rekha in 86-87.
Then Madhuri came like a superstar from tezaab. She took over the glamour quotient first then the dance quotient and then acting quotient from Sri Devi in hindi films.
So if we just compare Sri devi’s hino filmography, Madhuri beats her hands down.
However Sri devi has a very powerful South indian filmography. Her hits with Kamal Hassan and Rajnikanth were huge. Most were remade in Hindi with her. I have not seen those movie…but those who have seen find Sri devi a better actress in her mother toungue language. Her voice was dubbed for a long time and only later when she became a star did the producers agree to have Sri dub her own.
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December 10, 2018 at 6:27 AM
1
Janbaaz
Lamhe
2
Sadma
Khuda Gawah
3
Chandni
English Vinglish
4
aakhree Raasta
Gumrah
5
Tezaab
Dil to paagal hai
6
Prem pratigya
pukar
7
Parinda
devdas
8
Dil
Koyla
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December 10, 2018 at 6:27 AM
will add the Aamir WC to the sidebar later..
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December 10, 2018 at 8:00 AM
Group 1
Janbaaz (Was she there thru out the film?, I thought it was a special appreance)
Lamhe
Group 2
Mr India
Khuda Gawah
Group 3
Chandni
English Vinglish
Group 4
Chaalbaaz
Mom
Group 5
Saajan
Hum Aapke Hain Koun
Group 6
Prem Pratigya
Pukar
Group 7
Khal Nayak
Devdas
Group 8
Dil
Koyla
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December 10, 2018 at 8:11 AM
SriDevi all the way for me.
If someone is asked to think of first thing that comes to mind about Madhuri, 99% of them will say either “dhak dhak”, “ek do teen” or “cholie ke piche kya hai”. She became famous with sort of item songs.
If someone is asked to think of first thing that comes to mind about sridevi, 99% of them will say either “chandni”, “lamhe”, “Mr. India”, “sadma”, “chaalbaaz”, or even more recent “mom” and “english vinglish”. She was known for acting. She was called female bachchan. She had central role in many film even thou a movie starred big male stars. Very hard to have that if you think about it.
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December 10, 2018 at 3:54 PM
yes Janbaaz was a special appearance.
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December 10, 2018 at 8:51 AM
Group 1
Himmatwala
Lamhe
Group 2
Mr India
Khuda Gawah
Group 3
Nagina
English Vinglish
Group 4
Chaalbaaz
Gumrah
Group 5
Tezaab
Hum Aapke Hain Koun
Group 6
Beta
Pukar
Group 7
Khal Nayak
Devdas
Group 8
Dil
Koyla
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December 10, 2018 at 9:15 AM
tried posting my vote, this wont accept it!!!!!!
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December 10, 2018 at 9:23 AM
Try again!
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December 10, 2018 at 9:38 AM
This WW cup will make munna and Satyam appear more frequently. Atleast once in 2 days! I like it.
Wiaiting for Saket and Qalandar to participate or appear .
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December 10, 2018 at 1:00 PM
Holiday period this side of world..
I have seen many of Sridevi and Madhuri movies in 80s and 90s but I have hazy memory of them.
My vote is mostly based on perception and whatever I rememberer correctly. I will probably not like many movies if I see today.
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December 10, 2018 at 12:03 PM
Still wondering the point of these preposterous & pointless polls, whose coming up with them & why exactly are we even paying heed?
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December 10, 2018 at 1:56 PM
Group 1
Jaanbaaz
Lamhe
Group 2
Mr India
Khuda Gawah
Group 3
Nagina
English Venglish
Group 4
Chaalbaaz
Gumrah
Group 5
Tezaab
HAHK
Group 6
Prem Pratigya
Raja
Group 7
Khalnayak
Yaarana
Group 8
Dil
Koyla
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December 10, 2018 at 2:47 PM
Group 1
Janbaaz
Lamhe
Group 2
Mr India
Khuda Gawah
Group 3
Chandni
English Vinglish
Group 4
Aakhree Raasta
Mom
Group 5
Tezaab
Hum Aapke Hain Koun
Group 6
Prem Pratigya
Pukar
Group 7
Parinda
Devdas
Group 8
Dil
Aaja Nachle
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December 10, 2018 at 4:24 PM
Mr India vs Sadma is a tough choice. I went for the former but it’s like flipping a coin between the two.
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December 10, 2018 at 4:27 PM
I liked Sridevi only in Mr. India and Chandni .
Madhuri on the other hand has- Hifazat, Ram Lakahn, tezab, Beta, Sajan, Khalnayak, Devdas and above all HAHK and DTPH.
If Sridevi had – Katey Nahee katttey, Mdhuri had – Ankhiya Milaye , kabhee ankhiya churaye, and aaj phir tum par pyar aaya hai .
If Sri had terey mere hotho par, Mad had Tu shara hai, mai teri shayri .
I mean NO competition at all…Madhuri all the way !!
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December 10, 2018 at 4:35 PM
Madhuri in a waterfall before her super stardom –
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December 10, 2018 at 10:13 PM
Group 1
Himmatwala
Lamhe
Group 2
Sadma
Khuda Gawah
Group 3
Chandni
English Vinglish
Group 4
Chaalbaaz
Gumrah
Group 5
Saajan
Dil To Pagal Hai
Group 6
Prem Pratigya
Raja
Group 7
Parinda
Devdas
Group 8
Dil
Aaja Nachle
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December 10, 2018 at 10:14 PM
btw, if you put Sri’s Chandni on one side and all the films of Madhuri on opposite side, Sri will win hands down just on that one film! it is a text-book for any heroine….
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December 10, 2018 at 10:19 PM
Its not great acting by any means though. It somewhat worked in a semi-commercial space. But yes, Sri always had more substance than all the dhak-dhak choli ke peeche matkas and jhatkas. Maduri’s complete lack of grace in her middle aged avatar has tarnished all that sexy siren stuff. Neither she has any grace like Sri as displayed in EV/Mom, nor has she any character like Rekha in an past-item-number phase (Rekha was fab even when she was young also).
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December 10, 2018 at 10:21 PM
Even Juhi has retained some of her cuteness in the way she speaks (its hardly impressive at her age though), but what is Madhuri’s USP at this point? Apart from being a fat-cow wife of a businessman.
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December 11, 2018 at 12:42 AM
Quite a misogynstic comment I should say. Just what is it that you are expecting from Madhuri at this point?
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December 11, 2018 at 1:53 AM
Do some good acting in some good films. But perhaps this simple expectation is too much to understand for anyone who is deeply misogynist at her core.
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December 11, 2018 at 3:01 AM
I was reacting to the ‘fat cow’ comment. And how does that make me misogynstic?
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December 11, 2018 at 12:48 AM
Most of us here know Sridevi only by her Hindi films . Her performance in Tamil and Telugu are far far better and her voice is not as jarring as it is in Hindi.That said it is a fact that Sridevi was perceived as an actress and Madhuri more as a dancer .
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December 11, 2018 at 12:58 AM
Group 1
Himmatwala
Lamhe
Group 2
Mr India
Khuda Gawah
Group 3
Nagina
English Vinglish
Group 4
Chaalbaaz
Gumrah
Group 5
Tezaab
Hum Aapke Hai Koun
Group 6
Beta
Pukar
Group 7
Khalnayak
Devdas
Group 8
Anjaam
Aaja Nachle
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December 11, 2018 at 1:45 AM
Whenever the Madhuri versus Sridevi debate comes around, very conveniently, and ignorantly I should say, the term bandied around is that her so-called item numbers define her rather than her acting chops; as is evident on this blog.
One needs to see the trajectory of both the actresses. Sridevi has been extremely lucky, in the sense that because she started as a child artiste in Tamil film industry in 1967. During the early ’70s and ’80s, she got to work with supremely talented directors of the Tamil industry like Bharati Raaja: Acting with a giant like Hassan and an upcoming Rajinikanth also helped her a lot. So she started as an actress belonging to meaningful right away. That gives her an edge. By the time she came to the Hindi film industry, the nuances and requirements were known to her. What was missing, was just the language. And remember, the very fact that language wasn’t important in Hindi films of the ’80s like TOHFA and those umpteen Rishi Kapoor films, made her popular. If you catch her by the scruff of the neck and make her ‘act’ in Hindi, her short-coming would have filled a cauldron.
Madhuri, on the other hand, conquered the Hindi film industry at a time when content was below-standards, and it was upto the actors to raise the bar with their performances and get indian arses on the seat: That she was an extremely talented dancer thanks to her classical-dancing roots, proved to be a double-edged sword for her. Everybody knew her acting chops, but she was so over-powering and graceful with her dancing, and with the success of TEZAAB and SAILAAB’s song. that obviously, producers and directors flocked to her with dance-dominated films. However, if one has seen her massy films from KHALNAYAK to RAM LAKHAN, even in her dance-heroine avatar, she revealed her acting chops. It was then, further encapsulated in her fantastic performances in PARINDAA and MRITYUDAND.
Sridevi, to me, represented a highly irritating actress, mainly with her poorly modulated shrill-voice, mainly in roles that called for some seriousness. Hence, she was delightful in films like Ramu’s KSHNANA KSHNAM, Mr. INDIA, and CHAALBAAZ. In fact, she was born to do these roles. She was fine in the Tamil and the southern films as I mentioned before, but she was truly average in Hindi films that called upon her to show some serious acting chops. However, there’s no denying that before Madhuri, she will remain the first female-superstar of Hindi cinema.
There’s always a difference between measuring an actor’s filmography, versus an actor’s innate talent. As someone mentioned, in the annals of film industry, Sridevi’s will appear more prestigious thanks to her association with ‘quality’ directors. However, Madhuri, for me, will go down as one of the most talented actresses amongst Sridevi, Juhi, Meenakshi, and Manisha. Of course, it never realized its complete potential, and I do not contest that.
When I talk of innate talent versus a certain filmography, here’s an example:
a) Amitabh in Deewar or Trishul verses in Namal Halaal; the former two will be etched in history, the latter will be a gem for actors and audiences..
b) Madhuri in Mrityudand versus in Khel
c) Hoffman in Rainman versus Hoffman in Midnight Cowboy or Billy Bathgate
Sometimes, 0ne needs to be not so involved in missing the forest for the trees..
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December 11, 2018 at 1:59 AM
You have explained your stance well. Instead of dismissing in one sentence.
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December 11, 2018 at 2:21 AM
How can some innate talent have any meaning or significance if there is no filmography to justify it??? Do u really think that history is or ever will be kind to such unfulfilled ‘talent’?
Its not what u can do that matters, but what legacy u cud leave behind that sticks through unforgiving time.
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December 11, 2018 at 7:31 AM
Well said AnJo..
Aside: Itna Sadma mat lo, yeh toh bas ek Khel hai, ek Chalbaz ney Sailab laney kee koshish kee hai, so every one from Khalnayak to Mr. India are going- Ek Do Teeen….
Chandni raat mein kuch Lamhe bitao, otherwise Zindagi Ek Jua poochegii kee HAHK ??
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December 12, 2018 at 7:50 AM
haha nice use of film names Rocky!!! 🙂
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December 12, 2018 at 11:30 AM
Thank you Pandey jee..
Ek – Kishan Kanhiyya kee Prem deewani hai..
Doosri- Khuda Gawah hai kee yeh Himmatwali Chaand ka tukda kuch hee Lamhe mein Judai ho gai.
# Anjaam # Karma !!
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December 11, 2018 at 2:04 AM
I have not watched many of the films of either of the actresses. I heard good things about Jaag Utha Insaan for Sri and Dedh Ishquiya for Madhuri. Even Gajagamini was appreciated by some niche audience.
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December 11, 2018 at 2:11 AM
Ramu is smitten by Sri while M.F. Husain was smitten by Madhuri.
Jayaprada was praised by Ray for her classical features.
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December 11, 2018 at 2:48 AM
It does not matter much what the back history of an actor is. Or is he from a filmi background. The thing that matters is filmography and acting talent. Ranbir’s and Rishi’s success prove that. While Randhir and Chimpu failed though from the same family and groomed by Raj Kapoor.
No one can deny Madhuri’s acting talent or her huge success. Only her filmography poses some problems. I agree Sri can be irritating sometimes with her expressions and thats her weakness more than her voice and voice modulation. But her tamil, telugu and even Malayalam films are on par with the best of actors. One should have innate talent and also a passion to learn. Then only they can achieve great success.
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December 11, 2018 at 3:14 AM
Ultimately who gets to decide what ‘innate talent’ is?? The definition would vary from person to person depending on his or her taste and priorities, so it is not an objective thing like hit or flop but so many intangible things to account for while determining who is more talented or gifted as the criterion to judge would always differ. What you do with your talent is more important than the talent itself as has been proved by innumerable examples who, though, were extremely talented but lacked the judgement to utilise their talent in anything worthwhile. This trait of knowing oneself is also a talent which can’t be undermined as movies are an amalgamation of real & fantasy and those who are able to sift through it last much longer.
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December 11, 2018 at 3:26 AM
The innate talent is there for us to see. Some may appreciate some actors more and some actors less. But innate talent cant be hidden. It contributes to the success of a film or success of an actor. It is like the fragrance of a flower. One may like it or not,
but the fragrance spreads and makes a statement.
Agree that one should know how to use that talent. Otherwise it will be like a wasted gift.
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December 11, 2018 at 3:35 AM
What you do with your talent is more important than the talent itself as has been proved by innumerable examples who, though, were extremely talented but lacked the judgement to utilise their talent in anything worthwhile.
No, it’s a subject of time and circumstances. Why did Amitabh get ZANJEER after established ‘actors’ like Dev, Dharmendra, and Rajesh rejected it? Dev rejected it because it didn’t suit his ‘romantic’ image, and there were no songs!
Who gets to decide what innate talent is? It is YOU.!
Again, one is missing the point. Who are the directors that Madhuri worked with? Who were reining at that point? Ghai? Mehra? Dhawan? Where was Prakash Jha? Where was Shekar Kapur? Where was Balu Mahendra? Do you remember a film called DHARAVI by Sudhir Mishra? Why were these directors so less prominent during the ’90s? Madhuri was the first choice for 1942. Manisha only replaced her; a poor replacement by any standards. She looked beautiful, but that was it. In FILMARE in 1993, Chopra had carried a port-folio of Madhuri in 1942 and folks were stunned with her fit into that role.
There are many variables here. And that’s why a contest between Sridevi and Madhuri, though juicy, is not really a level-playing field..
One film, one film of Bhagwan Dada and it is still remembered with actors mimicking him all over the place; and one dares to question innate talent?? By that yard-stick, Dada Kondke is really..nothing in Marathi cinema..
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December 11, 2018 at 3:36 AM
Sehwag – terrific hand eye coordination
Tendulkar – numbers
Dravid – reliable
Ganguly – gritty, determined
Laxman – poetry in motion
Dhoni – matchwinner in crucial situations
There are infinite reasons for talent. But also infinite ways talent can be used, judged, nurtured.
There is no magic formula. By pigeonholing one is already filtering out talent.
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December 11, 2018 at 3:53 AM
But ultimately Sachin and Dravid standout among all of them. It is sad as to how quickly we forgot Ganguly and Dhoni as if they are not in the same league.
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December 11, 2018 at 3:46 AM
1942 was just to showcase the innocent and fresh faced beauty of Manisha. Madhuri never looked innocent though she was also very pretty.
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December 11, 2018 at 3:47 AM
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December 11, 2018 at 3:52 AM
That’s your opinion. Look at the article below. And look at one of her 1942’s pictures. And then decide. And if your yard-stick is like looking like a coquettish virgin a la- Carry Mulligan, then she is more than apt..
I am not able to reproduce the whose set of pictures…
https://www.filmfare.com/features/birthday-special-madhuri-dixit-nenes-journey-to-stardom-in-pictures-20580-7.html
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December 11, 2018 at 4:01 AM
These kind of articles are written about every successful star.
No big deal.
Why do you think only your choice is the best and our choice is to be ridiculed?
Manisha is considered by many as a very beautiful and talented actress and your blind love for Madhuri does not permit you to make a fair judgment. You called LS as a blind fan of aamir. What about you? Are you not a blind fan of Bachchan, Madhuri and Sachin?
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December 11, 2018 at 4:03 AM
‘Ridicule’? That’s what you get/deduce from my explanations? I rest my case and will no longer comment.
Thank you.
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December 11, 2018 at 3:55 AM
Madhuri definitely was a potential that was under utilised. But whose fault was it? Is it that producers/directors were scared to cast her against type or was Madhuri herself apprehensive? I would lay part of the blame on Madhuri herself.
Lajja, Mrutyudand all came much later in her career and was perhaps a little too late.I loved Aaja Nachle but the burden of making Madhuri dance pretty much throughout the film really brought it down.
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December 11, 2018 at 4:19 AM
This is definitely partly shared blame. It’s a tougher industry for women so surely that should be factored in. I.e. A male with the equivalent talent would have more probability to find his talent nurtured than the female. And the male could make it happen himself. It’s only now we see female actresses becoming producers too. Timing, luck, fate all play a part.
It’s an unfair rap to reduce Madhuri to just a dancer. She represented something much more.
My own personal liking is further enhanced by how my father’s older brother loved her (he was well into his 50’s and loved films from 50’s onwards). I think she cut across generations and yes looks played a huge part. I’m not denying my likeness for her is largely due to her absolutely stunning looks. But even Katrina is stunning but that’s not enough! In the main Madhuri dominated the male lead in my opinion, I can’t think of many films where I think she was so bad. The million dollar smile is legendary.
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December 11, 2018 at 4:33 AM
Agree pretty much to all. Madhuri may have had a longer and more successful career had she debuted 10 years later.
90s were tough times for actresses and there was huge personal rivalries going on not to mention the campism.
I think the failure of Anjaam , Khel etc kind of made her wary
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December 12, 2018 at 7:58 AM
agree with Latha.. we teenager friends though liked Anil kapoor but went to watch zindagi ek jua n Khel only bcoz Madhuri was in it. same is was case with saajan. she was one of the ‘Hero’ in these n few more movies n not herione!!!
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December 11, 2018 at 4:22 AM
I prefer Madhuri as she made me discover my manhood (sorry for offending some) and find her ethereal. I am definitely more biased towards her. Her stardom peaked with the success of HAHK where she overshadowed Salman every time they appeared together. Simply too good for him!
But I’d call Sridevi a better actress who played to her strengths! And her comic talent was exemplary. Probably the best ever among mainstream heroines along with Juhi Chawla
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December 11, 2018 at 4:25 AM
Imagine making Sunny Deol and Rajnikanth appear as sidekicks in the same film!
Only Sridevi could do that
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December 11, 2018 at 4:26 AM
Well I concur already on the main reason for liking Madhuri but I’m not this explicit LOL
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December 11, 2018 at 4:29 AM
LOL!
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December 11, 2018 at 4:25 AM
Let’s not get personal as I will get the thread closed! I was asked for a female centric WC but please keep it civil! No handbags 😀
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December 11, 2018 at 4:31 AM
Nothing personal Jayshah. But I am seeing that the Aamir Khan syndrome of ‘legacy’ is seeping into all of this. Hit it below the belt. In spite of detailed explanations as to how filmography is different from innate talent, it is considered ‘ridicule.’ I would love to explain it but I think the point will be lost.
I guess I am poor at explaining those things, so I said I will leave it at that. I had already mentioned before, that Madhuri/Sridevi would be a very tricky thing what variable parameters. It’s just not a level-playing field, by any standards.
Hopefully, you will not have an Amitabh-Aamir contest!!!!
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December 11, 2018 at 4:38 AM
LOL! This is a Sridevi, Madhuri only zone!
I won’t do that! I’ll be digging my own grave 😂
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December 11, 2018 at 4:54 AM
Dig deeper. And bury all of us!
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December 11, 2018 at 4:41 AM
I think within contemporaries it is okay to have WC…so Amitabh and Dharmedra/Vinod Khanna is fair but Raj Kapoor and Amaitabh doesn’t make sense. SRK and Salman probably will be a good contest. Sridevi was half a decade earlier than Madhuri..
On acting I agree with you..Madhuri is/was a better actor..Star is debatable.
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December 11, 2018 at 5:05 AM
This contest was always about the ‘filmography’ than the ‘talent’ as has been the case in the previous such contests. So you need to look at the criteria on which it is based which was never about ‘talent’ to begin with. Your explanation can be countered with another explanation from my perspective, so let’s not be judgemental on others as the road to it will keep taking us in circles with no conclusive end to it!!
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December 11, 2018 at 5:12 AM
Then this is a meaningless contest! ‘HITS’ is what you mean? Let’s go back to BOI then!
FILMOGRAPHY cannot be used here since the times are different; circumstances; parameters are different..You cannot club then statistically since it would be a mess…
Sridevi ALWAYS will have an edge if you want filmography…if that’s the case, then I will rest..that it’s only FILMOGRAPHY that matters…
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December 11, 2018 at 5:53 AM
“Sridevi ALWAYS will have an edge if you want filmography”
An Jo..I quite disagree here. I have explained in detail below.
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December 11, 2018 at 4:36 AM
“And if your yard-stick is like looking like a coquettish virgin a la- Carry Mulligan, then she is more than apt..”
The problem was with this sentence for me.
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December 11, 2018 at 4:46 AM
No it was not. Please don’t change the terms of the debate.
Here’s your taking:
December 11, 2018 at 4:01 AM
These kind of articles are written about every successful star.
No big deal.
Why do you think only your choice is the best and our choice is to be ridiculed?
Manisha is considered by many as a very beautiful and talented actress and your blind love for Madhuri does not permit you to make a fair judgment. You called LS as a blind fan of aamir. What about you? Are you not a blind fan of Bachchan, Madhuri and Sachin?
Where does it talk of Carrey Mulligan? it talks of my ‘blind’ worshipping of Amitabh, Tendulkar, and Madhuri, while of course, conveniently ignoring Aamir — my criticisms of Amitabh’s family, his blog., etc, are conveniently censored.
Let me give you a context of what I meant; in case you STILL want explanations:
Chopra wanted a very ‘different’ look and he opted for Madhuri since she was the only actress who could fit in western and eastern clothes and carry it off well. For some stupid date reasons, Madhuri couldn’t do it and it landed up in Manisha’s kitty. Manisha had already acquired a reputation in the over-rated Mani’s poorly executed Bombay. So that ‘innocent’ girl look was just an add-on.
I repeat, I am NOT able to reproduce all the pictures of Madhuri for 1942. But that was twisted in content.
This IS the last. I will leave it at this.
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December 11, 2018 at 4:48 AM
The thing that provoked me to write the next comment. One thing leading to the other.
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December 11, 2018 at 4:46 AM
There is space for everyone. Manisha, Madhuri and Sri. Manisha was the most unlucky one because of herself. And she was not a great dancer like the other two. And she made a mess of her life when she should have been concentrating on her career.
They say one gets what is due to them by destiny and it is correct only to some extent.
When Rajesh Khanna’s stardom ended, many felt its the end of the world.
My aim is not to fight with anyone but sometimes it just happens. And I hate myself for that.
Jay expected fireworks but not to this extent when he pitted Sri and Madhuri against each other.
Even if Madhuri is a better actress than both Manisha and Sri, she cannot do all the good films done by them. It is humanly impossible. I will appreciate her for making the best of the opportunities given to her which only very few could do.
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December 11, 2018 at 5:29 AM
I think Manisha had a beautiful face. In films like 1942, Dil Se, Bombay and Criminal, her beautiful, innocent face lit up the screen. She was good on these under-stated kind of roles because her innocence worked for her.
In other films like AHAT or Yugpurush, her limitations showed. As poor as some or Madhuri or Sridevi’s films were, their respective acting range or performance were not the main problems and never called into question.
It’s a no brainer when it comes to comparing the acting talent of Madhuri/Sridevi to that of Manisha. The formers were more talented.
Manisha was good in certain kind of deals. But Madhuri/Sridevi were the better actors. Having watched most of their respective films, I think Madhuri just about edges it against Sridevi.
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December 11, 2018 at 5:37 AM
Manisha Koirala actually could never compete with Madhuri. Madhuri was beating her hands down every year, film after film, awards after awards, hits after hits.
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December 11, 2018 at 5:44 AM
Cant disagree with you much here. I felt that in AHAT, she overshadowed aamir. And there was Agnisakshi with Nana and also Khamoshi. In Gupt she held her ground against Kajol. She also acted in some tamil films.
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December 11, 2018 at 7:13 AM
I don’t think she was overshadowed Aamir in AHAT
The best moments in the film are the father-son bonding when Aamir males blunders but then gradually comes into his own. While Aamir was subtle and natural, Manisha hammed a bit too much during the emotional scenes.
Agreed she was great in Agnisakshi and Khamoshi. Those films along with 1942, Dil Se, Criminal and Bombay were the best moments og her career. I liked her a lot in these films.
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December 11, 2018 at 5:00 AM
There were actresses like Dimple and Bhagyashree who threw away future stardom and settled for early marriage. Dimple made a sort of comeback. Meenakshi also left after a successful career and did not linger on.
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December 11, 2018 at 5:25 AM
I certainly do not understand how filmography of Sri devi is better than Madhuri?
I am quite perplexed.
No one film of Sri Devi can compete with the likes of HAHK. The movie was extraordinary in every sense and landmark in indian cinema.
Add Khalnayak, Saajan, Beta, Pre Pratigya, Tezaab …man i can go on.
No one movie of Sri devi can compete here.
p.s. Those who have not seen the movie of Madhuri/Sridevi and giving opinion need to say that they are joking. An Jo you need not react to them.
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December 11, 2018 at 5:34 AM
Let me compare Sri devi’s group and Madhuri’s group in the order given by Jayshah-
Sri devi Group 1
Himmatwala Vs Janbaaz
Lamhe Vs Laadla
Madhuri Group 5
Tezaab Vs Saajan
Hum Aapke Hain Koun Vs Dil To Pagal Hai
Group 5 is quite superior not only in overall box office but also in performances and overall movie quality.
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Group 2
Sadma Vs Mr India
Khuda Gawah Vs Judaai
Group 5
Tezaab Vs Saajan
Hum Aapke Hain Koun Vs Dil To Pagal Hai
I mean again the same story. Sri’s group is no comparision.
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Group 3
Nagina Vs Chandni
Gurudev Vs English Vinglish
Group 6
Prem Pratigya Vs Beta
Raja Vs Pukar
I can bet Prem Pratigya over all the 4 movies of Sri devi. Despire this box office of Madhuri is better.
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Group 4
Aakhree Raasta Vs Chaalbaaz
Gumrah Vs Mom
Group 7
Parinda Vs Khal Nayak
Yaarana Vs Devdas
Again Madhuri wins hands down!!!
Box office opening of Khalnayak is legendry.
Last one-
Group 8
Dil Vs Anjaam
Koyla Vs Aaja Nachle
Hahahaha 😀
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December 11, 2018 at 5:46 AM
Most movies will fail in comparison to HAHK BO . That does not make it a better movie. It was a wedding song and dance video – a remake of Rajishri’s own Nadiya Ke Paar .
Sadma did not do that well in Hindi. But it does not make it a lesser movie
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December 11, 2018 at 5:50 AM
That analogy is same as someone saying Lagaan was a India Vs Eng T20 match including BCCI politics. Fact is these analogies are incorrect.
Fact is over simplifying huge hits like Sholay or HAHK or Baahubali2 has been happening since ages. To each their own…but not true at all.
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December 11, 2018 at 6:03 AM
No one is over simplifying the issue. You were arguing that Madhuri is better because of BO . I was only contesting that.
Does Karisma become a better actress because of Raja Hindustani ?
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December 11, 2018 at 6:13 AM
I mentioned box office as one of the other parameters and not the only one.
In all parameters- quality, longevity, box office, impact, etc. of filmography, this group wise comparison of Sridevi lags behind those of Madhuri.
Again it is the comparison which is making me take a stand. Else as i told in the first writeup, it consider both great actresses.
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December 11, 2018 at 5:50 AM
You exhibited some wisdom during your first comment by being well balanced. Now you came back to your usual self.
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December 11, 2018 at 5:51 AM
Why are you trying to bring in Manisha in Sri Vs Mads post. wait your time will come.
Jay is planning Manisha Vs Urmila post soon.
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December 11, 2018 at 5:54 AM
I think An Jo brought manisha first. Why dont you ask him? Scroll up. I will also check once again as to who did it first. Myself or An Jo.
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December 11, 2018 at 6:00 AM
I brought in Manisha because it was 1942 – a film meant for Madhuri but landed in Manisha’s kitty; hope that clears the air..what followed subsequently was not my doing…but mere reactions..
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December 11, 2018 at 6:01 AM
An Jo started it.
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December 11, 2018 at 6:09 AM
You blamed me without thinking. Without going through the comments. hehehe.
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December 11, 2018 at 6:21 AM
I wish to stop it at this point. With Sanjana not willing to accept anything against her — and conveniently being blamed on me; with no respect to context et. al., , I will leave it at that.
Please continue on. Enjoy this ‘contest.’
I will continue to post only those things that mattered to ME; if you like it, good; else, else, better…
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December 11, 2018 at 6:45 AM
Naveen said that I started it. And so I refuted. That maybe context for you but I felt that it showed Manisha as a poor second choice for a film which was not a very big one though it had great publicity because of those songs. She was a second choice and maybe poor choice for some but as far as I know she was admired and loved as far as my reading of that film was concerned. I may be right or may not be.
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December 11, 2018 at 7:22 AM
Yes, An jo’s mention to Manisha was contextual to 1942 movie. You branched it to another tree which was only on manisha. See your comments above to believe what i said.
Anyway as i said, just wait.
Jay will do manisha Vs Urmila one day. 🙂
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December 11, 2018 at 7:39 AM
You just copied what An Jo wrote about context. You said that I started it. Stick to the point.
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December 11, 2018 at 5:44 AM
Hindi cinema isn’t just about Madhuri and Sri. That’s a big misconception.
First there was Nargis. Then there was Nutan, not as famous, but she was a fabulous actress.
Then there was the great Meena Kumari. And following her, there was Rekha. Talking about actresses who could act well on screen, that is.
Sri Devi and Madhuri came much later into the frame.
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December 11, 2018 at 5:48 AM
I agree. But this ‘contest’ was between Sri and Mads…What you are talking of, I can write essays — poorly written though — on…but that’s against Jay’s rules!!!
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December 11, 2018 at 5:51 AM
Exactly!!!
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December 11, 2018 at 6:19 AM
Ok let me be clear. THERE IS NO CRITERIA HERE. It’s a preference of one film over another.
To be it in an easier way, if you were asked to watch 1 film from the battle which is your choice? It need not be about IMDB ratings, box office or talent.
Keep it simple. I think Bliss has got the point so far and others.
It’s fun, if it’s not and we need babysitting I’ll stop soon.
AnJo not aimed at you or anyone specific. Just responding to ‘rules’ – there are NONE! If there was something like better film or performance I’d pick Swades over DDLJ in the equivalent SRK tournament.
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December 11, 2018 at 6:24 AM
Jay; I apologize; not to make a mess of your idea; i am not fit to be here — just as I never was in the box office thread — so apologize- please continue the context..I am out…TY…
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December 11, 2018 at 6:41 AM
On the contrary, these discussions make these threads interesting. I think it was Shivaay who asked what was the point of these comparisons?
The point is exactly this — to bring about a legitimate discourse on actors/actresses/stars and films. The fact that we are all so passionate about all of this is what matters in the end. Individual opinions can vary, of course.
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December 11, 2018 at 6:46 AM
Disagreements should not discourage you. You write more coherently and comprehensively than most of us and I wish that you would continue to comment.
On the point of Sanjana vs you, I am reminded of the fights that I have with my husband. Some word out of context and we fight for hours, forgetting the main issue of dispute😁
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December 11, 2018 at 7:24 AM
AnJo I don’t know why you are apologising.
Please vote at least! You can definitely write essays if you want and debate points. Nothing here has offended me personally, I’d be annoyed if you start voting and stop 😀
You have to finish what you started. Plus you are a Madhuri fan 😁
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December 12, 2018 at 8:10 AM
No!!!! An Jo plz dont do that!!! plz dont leave ..
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December 12, 2018 at 9:53 PM
Thanks Saket, Jayshah, Latha, Amit. The lure of cinema and this blog is too much; difficult to leave..Have begun voting. I don’t wish to clog up someone else’s space so was just making sure that I don’t cross limits…sometimes I might not recognize it but others see it..
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December 12, 2018 at 10:04 PM
I am pretty sure you don’t get clogger title on this board 🙂
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December 11, 2018 at 5:53 AM
You dont’t like Waheeda Rehman?
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December 11, 2018 at 6:15 AM
I do like Waheeda Rehman as well. Completely forgot about her…but would hesitate to put her in the same bracket, perhaps.
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December 11, 2018 at 6:31 AM
Amitabh Bachchan considers Waheeda Rehman to be the best ever there in Hindi film industry!!
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December 11, 2018 at 6:36 AM
I dont think so. She is one of the better actresses. Thats it.
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December 11, 2018 at 7:04 AM
I mentioned what Amitabh thinks of Waheeda Rehman not you or others. So in his opinion, he reckons her to be the best regardless of whether others agree with him or not and that is immaterial to him.
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December 11, 2018 at 7:10 AM
I know. He always says so. But here I have expressed about what I think and I know that it is immaterial for him. Do you think I dont understand that much? Blog is a space where anyone can reply even if the opinion is that of a celebrity.
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December 11, 2018 at 8:54 AM
It was in context to the innate talent discussion, wasn’t directed at your choice or reason behind it.
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December 11, 2018 at 5:54 AM
And there were few before Nargis as well.
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December 11, 2018 at 6:00 AM
And Smita Patil, Shabana Azmi……. they acted in commercial films as well. A contest between them will be much more interesting.
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December 11, 2018 at 6:07 AM
Both have fantastic filmographies and both are talented. Smita died early, very early, Spooky. Just like Sri and Madhuri where Sri died early.
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December 11, 2018 at 6:20 AM
Smita Patil was brilliant. On acting merit alone, she’s probably the best we’ve ever had. She wasn’t a commercial cinema stalwart though.
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December 11, 2018 at 6:03 AM
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December 11, 2018 at 6:21 AM
Box-office wise, Hema Malini was head and shoulders above her competition. But how many of her movies are remembered for her acting prowess is a moot question? It’s a combination of acting, filmography and box-office, if it were not so, we should be discussing Smita Patil vs Shabana Azmi instead.
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December 11, 2018 at 6:07 AM
Madhuri also had a good movie Sangeet which released in 1992.
She played a blind, orphan girl aspires to be a successful singer. With the help of another street performer, she sets out to make a mark and in the process discovers her real parents.
She won rave reviews for her acting then.
See one song from this movie.
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December 11, 2018 at 6:15 AM
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December 11, 2018 at 6:57 AM
Just to dispel the notion that I’m some kind of logical bot with no heart or emotions (if ever anyone thought so), I’d like to add that I’ve never found anyone as beautiful on screen as…Parveen Babi.
Not even Madhubala! One look at Parveen and I was transported somewhere else.
People talk about Amitabh and Rekha but I always thought Bachchan and Parveen Babi made the perfect pair, on screen.
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December 11, 2018 at 7:08 AM
‘People talk about Amitabh and Rekha but I always thought Bachchan and Parveen Babi made the perfect pair, on screen’ –
Not so sure about that but did like them both in Deewar. I thought Yash Chopra presented them quite well – surprising for the time in which it was made. Am also reminded of Khudaar
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December 11, 2018 at 7:37 AM
Amar Akbar Anthony, Suhaag, Majboor, Do Aur Do Paanch, Kaalia, Mahaan & Shaan!
They were also together in Namak Halaal & Kaala Pathar but were not paired together.
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December 11, 2018 at 7:40 AM
Subhash, she was paired with Shashi Kapoor. I forgot Majboor.I love that movie and keep watching the reruns on TV- for Pran’s performance and the song ‘Aadmi Jo kehta hai’
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December 11, 2018 at 7:41 AM
Sorry, Suhaag became Subash on auto correct😀
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December 11, 2018 at 7:50 AM
Yes, you are right. In Suhaag she was paired with Shashi Kapoor. Mixed it up I guess…but then I always wanted Bachchan and Parveen Babi to end up together!
And you watch Majboor for Pran?! Bachchan is absolutely fabulous in the film! Love ‘Aadmi Jo Kehta Hai’…!
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December 11, 2018 at 8:08 AM
‘And you watch Majboor for Pran?! Bachchan is absolutely fabulous in the film!‘
LOL on that. But for the most part whenever Bachchan is there , Farida Jalal appears and I hate that parts of the film. On Pran, there is no excuse except that he is a personal favourite. Am fascinated by the fact that though he was a mere villain, he was bigger than the hero and paid much more than them.
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December 11, 2018 at 8:56 AM
So was Mehmood in his prime.
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December 11, 2018 at 7:15 AM
I felt that Raakhee Gulzar suited him more. He looks good with anyone, even with the late Jiah.
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December 11, 2018 at 7:21 AM
logical bot! Haha!
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December 11, 2018 at 7:04 AM
To me, Sri was Lady Bachchan – just with her sheer screen presence and timing she would elevate any craply written roles – also Latha made a valid point, Sri was not about only Hindi films – she did many nice films down South – someone so dedicated that Yash Chopra had to admit that she was the only actress he was in awe of……
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December 11, 2018 at 7:25 AM
I think Lady Bachchan was a media coined term. Maybe she deserved it for couple of years. But i though Sri took it too seriously and chose bad moves post chaalbaaz/chandni. To remain true to the lady bachchan thing, she let go many good movies. She could never have another ’88 thereon.
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December 11, 2018 at 7:27 AM
You are not answering me.
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December 11, 2018 at 7:29 AM
You can talk about madhuri’s greatness after answering me about who started mentioning Manisha.
Try to acknowledge and get it over.
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December 11, 2018 at 7:10 AM
I think many are missing the point when discussing Madhuri’s filmography.
They are restricting it just to the list Jayshah made.
Madhuri’s filmography is quite vast ranging from comedy to action to romance to thriller to social to heroinegiri to angelic to wifey to girl friendish to friendish to girl next door to terrific roles to extraordinary performances to iconic movies.
Her dancing talent was so sparkling that it Indian film industry during her time was made famous because of that.
But of dance had been the only quality, she would have been next to helen. But gleefully, Madhuri was a complete package. She wisely chose dance to wipe out Sri Devi’s clout who was then the best dancer compared to Rekha ro Jaya Prada. Before Madhuri arrives,,,Sri was having a cake walk.
Tezaab poked the castle Sri had built. And it was not just Ek do teen song…it was the fiery performance which got attention.
From then on Mads never looked back. Her choice of movies was also superior to Sridevi who got too hyped because of the false female Amitabh comparison. She started doing movies for her persona and in the process missed out on several good movies which Madhuri did and then completely owned it.
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December 11, 2018 at 7:31 AM
I think beyond the list, there are some notable Madhuri films. Of course Jay couldn’t put them all here. Super hits like like Ram Lakhan or to a lesser extent Tridev. Films like 100 days that worked only because of her. Also remember that Sailasb song. An iconic moment. And Thanedaar.
Sridevi also had strong films like Want ki Awaaz and Guru.
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December 11, 2018 at 7:32 AM
Edit: Waqt ki Awaaz
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December 11, 2018 at 7:39 AM
Missed a few, though without throwing anyone under the bus…I vetted the list out of a previous TOH thread. Tried to make this spicy with a Vs battle…LOL…got more than I bargained for!
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December 11, 2018 at 7:43 AM
This much interesting than the BO thread .
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December 11, 2018 at 8:19 AM
I’m enjoying the outpouring of knowledge here. Discovering interesting things for sure, more about Sridevi than Madhuri.
Anyway hopefully it will boil down to Madhuri Vs Sridevi final?
Next on the list is Farida Jalal WC … I see both you and Sanjana are waiting for it 😀
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December 11, 2018 at 8:26 AM
‘Next on the list is Farida Jalal WC … I see both you and Sanjana are waiting for it ‘
LOL on that. I am game for it , if you name 10 of her films without referring to Wikipedia 😀
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December 11, 2018 at 8:35 AM
I can’t THANK GOD
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December 11, 2018 at 7:52 AM
I had warned you 🙂
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December 11, 2018 at 7:54 AM
Yes you did. But we are all adults here 😀
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December 11, 2018 at 7:49 AM
The point you guys are missing is, what did madhuri exactly had to do in movie like Tridev or for that matter ram lakhan?
She was more like sidekick in those movies while you had stars like sunny, rajnikant, rishi kapoor, vinod khanna, etc playing sidekick to sridevi. Movies were made with central role for sridevi.
“remember that Sailasb song. An iconic moment”
Yes, I do. Again a song is referenced to remember madhuri. And it’s not a song which has and grace, it’s usually a song made like an item number.
Don’t get me wrong. Madhuri was a huge star in her time but her rise to the fame was due to the songs mainly (they were more of what we call item numbers today). She was also very free with lip kissing, etc (dayavaan, dil, parinda, and many more).
I remember my friends used to say “madhuri ki film hai, dekhne ko milega”
Coming to present, i don’t even think it’s worth talking about englishvinglish/mom versus madhuri recent release.
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December 11, 2018 at 7:55 AM
She was also very free with lip kissing, etc (dayavaan, dil, parinda, and many more).
This can’t be the reason to knock Madhuri off her perch.
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December 11, 2018 at 8:30 AM
agree 100% and not saying that this is the reason for her success cause malika sherawat did same and didn’t last much.
What i’m saying is it didn’t hurt either and added that extra umph to her and reason to watch the movie. If side actors does it, than nobody cares, if the leading lady does it, then it is something. lip kiss was still a big thing in 90s, especially if the leading lady does it, think of karishma in raja hindustani.
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December 11, 2018 at 8:07 AM
There are actresses or actors since her who have done same. Doesn’t guarantee anything. In fact first time I’m hearing this is a potential reason for success.
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December 12, 2018 at 3:43 AM
xcuse me, you are cherry picking.
are u saying Sri never played a role which was like a side kick?
There are numberous films.
Usually heroines dont get meateir roles at the beginner of their career. You picked two movies of Madhuri when she was starting. Please look at Sri’s movies…there are many more examples of her non relevance. But again i dont want to pick those to undermine her.
Z, please take back your insult to the queen!!!
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December 11, 2018 at 7:18 AM
Naveen is not answering my rejoinder. Keeping mum.
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December 12, 2018 at 3:44 AM
Kya Sanjana…!!! 🙂
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December 11, 2018 at 8:00 AM
Anyway I have a lot material here for a research paper on human behaviour and understanding simple instructions 😀
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December 11, 2018 at 8:17 AM
Yes. Poor Naveen is forced to take an anti sri and pro madhuri stance. Cant blame him.
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December 12, 2018 at 3:40 AM
yes, same thing happens with Aamir too. I really like him but then take positions which get hurtful for few.
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December 12, 2018 at 3:46 AM
I know.
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December 11, 2018 at 10:01 AM
Only few hours left to cast your votes! Then I will release Round Robin 2 of group stage…
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December 11, 2018 at 2:52 PM
Voting closed…new people can vote later whilst group stages still in play. Round Robin 2 will start very soon!
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December 11, 2018 at 3:39 PM
Standings updated and next Round Robin is ready…
it’s in the post and here too in this comment…
Group 1
Himmatwala Vs Lamhe
Janbaaz Vs Laadla
Group 2
Sadma Vs Khuda Gawah
Mr India Vs Judaai
Group 3
Nagina Vs Gurudev
Chandni Vs English Vinglish
Group 4
Aakhree Raasta Vs Gumrah
Chaalbaaz Vs Mom
Group 5
Tezaab Vs Hum Aapke Hain Koun
Saajan Vs Dil To Pagal Hai
Group 6
Prem Pratigya Vs Raja
Beta Vs Pukar
Group 7
Parinda Vs Yaarana
Khal Nayak Vs Devdas
Group 8
Dil Vs Koyla
Anjaam Vs Aaja Nachle
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December 11, 2018 at 3:42 PM
My vote for Round Robin 2 Group Stage
Lamhe
Laadla
Khuda Gawah
Mr India
Gurudev
English Vinglish
Gumrah
Mom
Tezaab
Saajan
Prem Pratigya
Pukar
Parinda
Khal Nayak
Koyla
Aaja Nachle
Voting ends in 48 hours
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December 11, 2018 at 4:49 PM
Lamhe
Janbaaz
Sadma
Mr India
Nagina
Chandni
Aakhree Raasta
Chalbaaz
Tezaab
Saajan
Prem Pratigya
Pukar
Parinda
Khalnayak
Koyla
Aaja Nachle
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December 11, 2018 at 7:18 PM
Lamhe
Jaanbaaz
Sadma
Mr India
Nagina
English Vinglish
Gumrah
Chaalbaaz
HAHK
Saajan
Raja
Beta
Parinda
Khal Nayak
Dil
Aaja Nachle
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December 11, 2018 at 8:20 PM
Lamhe
Janbaaz
Sadma
Mr India
Nagina
Chandni
Aakhree Raasta
Chaalbaaz
Tezaab
Saajan
Prem Pratigya
Pukar
Yaarana
Devdas
Dil
Aaja Nachle
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December 11, 2018 at 10:10 PM
A random selection of fully seen, half seen or not seen films.
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December 11, 2018 at 11:19 PM
This is indirectly a contest between anil Kapoor, Salman Khan, Sanjay Dutt, Rishi Kapoor, Bachchan , Srk and aamir.
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December 12, 2018 at 12:26 AM
Prem pratigya the most innocent & loveble performance. ….. my choice
Prem pratigya
Tezaab
Dil
Parnda
Hahk
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December 12, 2018 at 12:34 AM
Group 1
Lamhe
Janbaaz
Group 2
Sadma
Mr India
Group 3
Nagina
Chandni
Group 4
Aakhree Raasta
Chaalbaaz
Group 5
Tezaab
Dil To Pagal Hai
Group 6
Prem Pratigya
Pukar
Group 7
Parinda
Khal Nayak
Group 8
Dil
Aaja Nachle
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December 12, 2018 at 12:57 AM
Lamhe
Laadla
Sadma
Mr India
Nagina
English Vinglish
Gumrah
Chaalbaaz
Hum Aapke Han Koun
Saajan
Raja
Pukar
Parinda
Khalnayak
Dil
Aaja Nachle
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December 12, 2018 at 3:46 AM
Lamhe
Janbaaz
Sadma
Mr India
Nagina
Chandni
Gumrah
Chaalbaaz
Hum Aapke Hain Koun
Saajan
Prem Pratigya
Beta
Yaarana
Khal Nayak
Dil
Anjaam
Just compare the rejects of Madhuri. They are better than selects of Sri Devi. And someone was harping on filmography 😛
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December 12, 2018 at 4:02 AM
[1] I demand apology from Z to offer unconditional withdrawal of her remarks against the queen of bollywood and
[2] request a unanimous resolution by the bloggers of Sathyam shot to hail the queen, the mesmerising talent, the incomparable beauty, the phenomena, the one and only M.A.D.H.U.R.I. D.I.X.I.T. N.A.V.E.E.N.
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December 12, 2018 at 4:03 AM
There ar eonly two unquestionable talents in Hindi films- Amitabh and Madhuri.
Others can be measured as % of each.
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December 12, 2018 at 5:48 AM
You forgot to add certain ‘Akshay Kumar’ in your list!! 😊😊😊
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December 12, 2018 at 6:01 AM
Akshay Kumar is above them.
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December 12, 2018 at 6:16 AM
Akshay is beyond any such lists!!
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December 13, 2018 at 12:55 AM
Akshay Kumar is also a % of Mr Big B.
Amitabh towers above all.
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December 12, 2018 at 7:19 AM
Group 1
Lamhe
Janbaaz
Group 2
Khuda Gawah
Mr India
Group 3
Nagina
English Vinglish
Group 4
Gumrah
Mom
Group 5
Hum Aapke Hain Koun
Saajani
Group 6
Raja
Beta
Group 7
Parinda
Devdas
Group 8
Dil
Anjaam
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December 12, 2018 at 8:32 AM
Round Robin 2 Group Stage
Group 1
Himmatwala
Laadla
Group 2
Khuda Gawah (that first few scenes of her in afghani swag.. mashallah 🙂 )
Mr India (ppl started caling that movie name hcan be Miss India ;))
Group 3
Gurudev
English Vinglish (great acting here)
Group 4
Aakhree Raasta
Chaalbaaz (yeah she was bigger than the other stars in it)
Group 5
Hum Aapke Hain Koun (hands down ..madhuri was eternal here. though my favorite character in this movie was Renuka sahane)
Saajan
Group 6
Raja (indomitable performance.. i remember this movie very well .i can still visualize people going crazy over her in the theatre. she actually was the HERO here n launched the forgettable Sanjay kapoor)
Pukar
Group 7
Parinda
Devdas (how graceful she was)
Group 8
Dil (cute pair with Aamir here)
Anjaam (was fan of srk once.. but this movie belonged to Madhuri.. though flopped but yeah here too she was withstood Srk’s grey character performance which he always does best )
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December 12, 2018 at 10:17 AM
Such was the craze of Madhuri in her hey days, her fans protested against the name of ‘Raja’ & wanted it to be rechristened as ‘Raani’ instead!! And that’s what i read in the newspaper back then during its release time which is insane to say the least. Also it has been reported many a time that she was paid more than Salman for HAHK which tells a lot about her popularity during those time as well as her box-office draw.
Why does it always have to be choice between two when both of them are equally talented, achieved a lot in their respective careers and are from the different eras?? Madhuri and Sridevi are the legends of not only Hindi cinema but Indian cinema as what they did achieve despite working in a male dominated industry where roles have been written for their male leads and most of the times, if not all, female leads getting the step-motherly treatment in almost every facet of filmmaking, is nothing sort of than a miraculous feat. Their contribution to Hindi film industry is immense and needs to be lauded for it.
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December 12, 2018 at 2:03 PM
Well said.
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December 12, 2018 at 3:15 PM
Thanks Sanjana
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December 12, 2018 at 6:03 PM
Good point MSA….( no I do not mean Mani Shankar Aiyyar , LOL)
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December 12, 2018 at 7:09 PM
Thanks a lot Rocky dada!!
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December 13, 2018 at 1:10 AM
In the long run everyone is equal and dead.
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December 12, 2018 at 1:06 PM
Group 1
Lamhe
Laadla
Group 2
Khuda Gawah
Mr India
Group 3
Nagina
Chandni
Group 4
Aakhree Raasta
Chaalbaaz
Group 5
Tezaab
Saajan
Group 6
Prem Pratigya
Pukar
Group 7
Parinda
Khal Nayak
Group 8
Dil
Anjaam
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December 12, 2018 at 1:51 PM
Because of this wc, I got interested in Gumrah and finished watching it on TV but missed the beginning. Gripping movie. But blood, gore and dark lives. Mahesh Bhatt style. Sri was just adequate. Soni Razdan was impressive in her short role. Sanju baba was his usual self and there was Bhatt’s favourite Rahul Roy. Beefy Bob Cristo, Tom Alter and Kunika. It is also on Prime. Timepass film.
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December 12, 2018 at 6:02 PM
One of my favourite Dutt songs growing up is in this film. I liked this movie loads when younger.
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December 13, 2018 at 1:02 AM
Main tera aashiq hoon. was my anthem as well. 🙂
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December 13, 2018 at 1:36 AM
It was inspired from Bankok Hilton. In fact Bhatt’s favorite back then, Rahul Roy, had much lengthier role initially. Dutt had a cameo, appearing in the second half. But Roy’s career wasn’t going well while Dutt had Saajan and Sadak released in the meanwhile. So Yash Johar put pressure on Bhatt to trim Roy’s role to a guest appearance and make Dutt’s character a full fledged one.
It was a decent film. But the expectations were huge and it underperformed.
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December 13, 2018 at 1:49 AM
Yes it under performed big time. It was a decent success but could have been Sri’s Khalnayak moment with Dutt.
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December 12, 2018 at 3:20 PM
Group 1
Lamhe
Laadla
Group 2
Sadma
Mr India
Group 3
Gurudev
English Vinglish
Group 4
Gumrah
Chaalbaaz
Group 5
Tezaab
Saajan
Group 6
Raja
Beta
Group 7
Parinda
Khal Nayak
Group 8
Dil
Anjaam
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December 13, 2018 at 2:04 AM
No Hum Aapke Hain Koun?
It was indeed a toughie…Tezaab would have featured as winner with any other movie..a
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December 13, 2018 at 2:21 AM
I do wish JS had consulted me..I could have provided more insights in separations of films with regard to MADS and SRI..culturally, box-office, and impact-analysis-wise..
No rap on you JS sir, just saying..we could have grouped them into a more challenging version that would actually be ease-of-use for the participants..
My mistake that I didn’t volunteer earlier for this…
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December 13, 2018 at 4:04 AM
Unfortunately many such feedbacks, making everyone happy is not easy! Making myself happy is 😀
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December 13, 2018 at 3:40 AM
Actually position of Dil was not correct. It is not so a great film like Tezaab, Saajan…and pitting it against the like of Kpyla, Aaja Nachle and Anjaam is a cake walk for Dil.
Group 8
Dil 12
Koyla 7
Aaja Nachle 7
Anjaam 2
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December 13, 2018 at 3:42 AM
It can all change. Groups are randomly adjudged by myself, but no fiddling is involved.
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December 13, 2018 at 3:44 AM
Not blaming you Jay. It not intentional i know.
Just one of those fan rants when Brazil gets an easy group and Argentina gets a toughie.
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December 12, 2018 at 7:02 PM
Group 1
Lamhe
Janbaaz
Group 2
Sadma
Mr India
Group 3
Nagina
English Vinglish
Group 4
Aakhree Raasta
Mom
Group 5
Hum Aapke Hain Koun
Saajan
Group 6
Prem Pratigya
Pukar
Group 7
Parinda
Devdas
Group 8
Dil
Aaja Nachle
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December 13, 2018 at 2:39 AM
Another song written by the terrific Khurshid Hallauri, where MADS’ lip-kiss ‘brought’ in audiences…
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December 13, 2018 at 3:32 AM
Madhuri so easily used to take over scenes. Amazing.
Thanks for sharing.
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December 13, 2018 at 3:36 AM
I think Sridevi Vs Hema malini Vs Rekha would be a great match as those three were more contemporary.
Difficulty with Madhuri Vs XYZ is that no one during her times – Juhi, Manisha, Urmila, Karishma could continue their momentum despite getting/showing sparks.
Madhuri literally stole the thunder from Sri from the time Tezaab released and till DevDas…she was No 1.
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December 13, 2018 at 4:22 AM
12 hours of voting remains before the final set of group stage games are in play! At this stage it is not even a Madhuri Vs Sridevi competition, it’s actually been Madhuri Vs Madhuri and Sridevi Vs Sridevi.
Next stage will be fun with 8 Madhuri Vs Sridevi matches! I’ll be hiding under my duvet quietly enjoying the debates 😀
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December 13, 2018 at 5:18 AM
Shah Rukh Khan says he would have shown his film Zero to Sridevi first
Shah Rukh Khan and director Aanand L Rai spoke about the late actor Sridevi’s appearance in their upcoming film Zero.
https://www.hindustantimes.com/bollywood/shah-rukh-khan-says-he-would-have-shown-his-film-zero-to-sridevi-first/story-jBl6HKJLowG4NpEYdz5v0L.html
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December 13, 2018 at 5:18 AM
Promotion ke liye kuch bhi?
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December 13, 2018 at 11:30 AM
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December 13, 2018 at 5:50 PM
wow….did the world miss an amazing SFX?
Manisha never looked as good in 1942 later. I am sure Madhuri would have been an ace. I had watched 1942 in theatres and still dont know why it flopped.
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December 13, 2018 at 3:23 PM
Voting closed. Round Robin 3 to start soon (final group matches), with updated group standings in post.
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December 13, 2018 at 3:49 PM
My Round Robin 3 picks – matches in post
Laadla
Lamhe
Judaai
Mr India
English Vinglish
Chandni
Mom
Gumrah
Tezaab
Saajan
Pukar
Beta
Parinda
Khal Nayak
Aaja Nachle
Koyla
Remember 72 hours left to vote here. Tony Montana, Krish and Ideaunique please vote on Round Robin 2 as I am missing your vote! 🙂
AnJo vote on Round Robin 1 as am missing your vote here
New entrants – follow the thread and vote on all 3 set of Round Robin stages! Or wait for knockouts!
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December 13, 2018 at 3:56 PM
Himmatwala
Lamhe
Sadma
Mr India
Nagina
Chandni
Aakhree Raasta
Gumraah
Tezaab
Saajan
Pukar (this was tough!)
Beta (this was tough too, don’t like either film!)
Parinda
Khalnayak
Aaja Nachle
Koyla
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December 13, 2018 at 4:06 PM
Standings update –
Group 1 – Lamhe and Janbaaz look like going through but meet in the final group match where Lamhe has a 7 vote lead currently
Group 2 – Mr India and Khuda Gawah lead here but Sadma has a chance of sneaking through as it is facing the 1 vote Judaai (munna 🙂 ) while Mr India and Khuda Gawah fight each other in a mammoth match up, that may eliminate either or send both through!
Group 3 – English Vinglish is through it seems. Chandni and Nagina are tied on 2nd with 14 each. The former seems favourite to sneak through with Gurudev in final match
Group 4 – 1st plays 2nd and 3rd plays 4th. Chaalbaaz looks safe at the top but watch out Gumrah. Gumrah needs to play well here otherwise the door is open for either Mom or Aakhree Raasta
Group 5 – What a group! Tezaab looks good to go through as it is facing bottom placed Dil To Pagal Hai. But Saajan Vs Hum Aapke Hain Koun is the almighty tussle here, who will prevail?
Group 6 – Top 2 face off, whilst Beta and Raja need a landslide victory to get through
Group 7 – Khal Nayak could go from 3rd to 1st here if it trounces Yaarana, while Parinda Vs Devdas is crucial in what may be a 2 out of 3 photofinish
Group 8 – Dil looks good to get through. Negative SRK Vs Blind SRK is crucial to deciding if one of these SRK/Madhuri combo’s get through at the expense of Aaja Nachle, though unlikely!
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December 13, 2018 at 5:20 PM
I must have voted against Khuda Gawah which I haven’t seen. Judaai was decent remake of indecent proposal..Saw it in college..Haven’t revisited since.
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December 13, 2018 at 9:01 PM
Chandni should be out of this competition as it equals and is still better than all other Sri’s films sum total…..that movie is right in the top 5 list for female oriented all time hits
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December 13, 2018 at 10:16 PM
I agree. Chandni is among my all time favourite movie too. It’s a clear leader for me in Sri’s filmography.
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December 13, 2018 at 5:25 PM
Round #3
Laadla
Lamhe
Sadma
Mr India
Nagina
Chandni
Aakhri raasta
Chaalbaaz
Tezaab
Hum aapke Hain Kaun
Pukar
Beta
Parinda
KhalNayak
Dil
Anjaam
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December 13, 2018 at 8:23 PM
Group 1
Himmatwala
Lamhe
Group 2
Sadma
Mr India
Group 3
English Vinglish
Chandni
Group 4
Mom
Chaalbaaz
Group 5
Tezaab
Saajan
Group 6
Pukar
Beta
Group 7
Parinda
Khal Nayak
Group 8
Dil
Anjaam
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December 13, 2018 at 10:31 PM
Jay I thought i finished with the robin 1 stages…am confused.Here’s what I voted..
https://satyamshot.wordpress.com/2018/12/13/world-cup-madhuri-vs-sridevi-group-stage-round-robin-1/#comment-470259
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December 14, 2018 at 1:22 AM
Round Robin is basically a group of 4, where each film matches with another once. So I think you only played the 2nd set of matches. The first set are near the top of the thread in one of my comments. The last set I released yesterday.
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December 13, 2018 at 10:48 PM
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December 13, 2018 at 11:57 PM
I am giving my list of Bachchan films for WW. It has to be 3 parts mega event. And then the finals. Make it 2 or 3. Otherwise bloggers will lose interest.
Parwana, Anand, Reshma aur Shera, Zanzeer, Abhimaan, Saudagar, Namak Haram
Deewar, Sholay, Chupke Chupke, Mili. Do Anjaane, Kabhie Kabhie
Amar Akbar Anthony, Khoon Pasina, Parvarish, Alaap, Kasme Vaade, Trishul, Don, Muqaddar Ka Sikandar
The Great Gambler, Jurmana, Mr. Natrwarlal, Kaala Patthar, Suhaag, Do aur Ao Paanch, Dostana, Shaan, Ram Balraam
Yaarana, Barsaat ki Ek Raat, Naseeb, Lawaris, Silsila, Kaalia, Satte pe Satta, Bemisaal, Desh Premee
Namak Halal, Khuddar, Shakti, Andhaa Kanoon, Coolie, Sharabi, Mard, Aakhree Rastaa, Shahenshah
Agneepath, Hum, Khuda Gawah, Major Saab
Mohabbatein, Aks, Kaante, Baghban, Khakhee, Dev, Black
Bunty aur Babli, Paheli, Sarkar, Eklavya, Nishabd, Cheeni Kum, Jhoom Barabar Jhoom, Bhoothnath Sarkar raj, Paa
Piku, Wazir, Te3n, Pink, 102 Not Out, Thugs of HIndostan
Bachchan had done some of the most forgettable films twice this. Some of the titles are not even heard of by most.
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December 14, 2018 at 12:06 AM
Need some approval from Bachchan fans like Satyam, Saket, An Jo and Yakuza. Did I forget other fans?
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December 14, 2018 at 12:14 AM
It is done chrnologically. Young, somewhat young, middleage, 50+ and 65+. Like that. I have left out Saat Hindustani and some others. Cant accommodate every middling and sentimental types.
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December 14, 2018 at 12:34 AM
Total 76 films. Corresponding to his age? If we take out one film, It will be 75 and can neatly fit into 25 films per round. 5 multiplied by 5. Paheli or some other film can be removed.
Total 3 rounds.
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December 14, 2018 at 12:37 AM
Thanks Sanjana. It will be a tough fight. His ’70s and ’80s obviously winning over everything..I think we should just have an AB versus AB contest. It really makes no sense for me at least, to bring in another player here…
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December 14, 2018 at 12:40 AM
No question of another player.
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December 14, 2018 at 1:27 AM
Group 1
Laadla
Lamhe
Group 2
Sadma
Mr India
Group 3
Nagina
Chandni
Group 4
Aakhree Raasta
Chaalbaaz
Group 5
Tezaab
Hum Aapke Hain Koun
Group 6
Prem Pratigya
Beta a
Group 7
Parinda
Khal Nayak
Group 8
Dil
Anjaam
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December 14, 2018 at 1:29 AM
For AnJo and others
Round Robin 1
Group 1
Himmatwala Vs Janbaaz
Lamhe Vs Laadla
Group 2
Sadma Vs Mr India
Khuda Gawah Vs Judaai
Group 3
Nagina Vs Chandni
Gurudev Vs English Vinglish
Group 4
Aakhree Raasta Vs Chaalbaaz
Gumrah Vs Mom
Group 5
Tezaab Vs Saajan
Hum Aapke Hain Koun Vs Dil To Pagal Hai
Group 6
Prem Pratigya Vs Beta
Raja Vs Pukar
Group 7
Parinda Vs Khal Nayak
Yaarana Vs Devdas
Group 8
Dil Vs Anjaam
Koyla Vs Aaja Nachle
Round Robin 2
Group 1
Himmatwala Vs Lamhe
Janbaaz Vs Laadla
Group 2
Sadma Vs Khuda Gawah
Mr India Vs Judaai
Group 3
Nagina Vs Gurudev
Chandni Vs English Vinglish
Group 4
Aakhree Raasta Vs Gumrah
Chaalbaaz Vs Mom
Group 5
Tezaab Vs Hum Aapke Hain Koun
Saajan Vs Dil To Pagal Hai
Group 6
Prem Pratigya Vs Raja
Beta Vs Pukar
Group 7
Parinda Vs Yaarana
Khal Nayak Vs Devdas
Group 8
Dil Vs Koyla
Anjaam Vs Aaja Nachle
Round Robin 3
Group 1
Himmatwala Vs Laadla
Janbaaz Vs Lamhe
Group 2
Sadma Vs Judaai
Mr India Vs Khuda Gawah
Group 3
Nagina Vs English Vinglish
Chandni Vs Gurudev
Group 4
Aakhree Raasta Vs Mom
Chaalbaaz Vs Gumrah
Group 5
Tezaab Vs Dil To Pagal Hai
Saajan Vs Hum Aapke Hain Koun
Group 6
Prem Pratigya Vs Pukar
Beta Vs Raja
Group 7
Parinda Vs Devdas
Khal Nayak Vs Yaarana
Group 8
Dil Vs Aaja Nachle
Anjaam Vs Koyla
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December 14, 2018 at 2:11 AM
Himmatwala
Lamhe
Sadma
Mr India
English Vinglish
Chandni
Aakhri Rasta
Chaalbaaz
Dil To Pagal Hai
HAHK
Pukar
Beta
Devdas
Khalnayak
Aaja Nachle
Anjaam
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December 14, 2018 at 7:41 AM
Round Robin 3
Group 1
Laadla
Lamhe
Group 2
Judaai
Khuda Gawah
Group 3
English Vinglish
Chandni
Group 4
Mom
Chaalbaaz
Group 5
Tezaab
Saajan
Group 6
Prem Pratigya
Raja
Group 7
Devdas
Khal Nayak
Group 8
Aaja Nachle
Anjaam
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December 14, 2018 at 8:14 AM
Hum Aapke Hain Koun and Saajan are really in a battle here. Two iconic music albums.
My favourite song from each
Note how Madhuri’s name appears first.
One of my favourite love triangle films ever! I felt so sorry for Dutt in this movie, I think only HDDCS comes in similar range.
Tezaab seems to have easily won this group. What happened to DTPH? Geez another love triangle with memorable songs.
My favourite from DTPH
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December 14, 2018 at 8:17 AM
Madhuri is absolutely hands down the most beautiful actress ever for me! Any industry! Jennifer Lawrence is close for me but Madhuri in her prime was simply everything!
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December 14, 2018 at 5:43 PM
only SRK movie I have watched 7 (yeah seven) times in a theater…..DTPH remains one of all time favorites…everything was sooooo good. even SRK….songs….Madhuri….btw, I have never watched any movie more than twice except this one….i was completely mesmerized by the sheer energy of this film…..especially the songs…
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December 15, 2018 at 12:44 AM
I did not care for the movie but I loved some of the songs. Especially Arere arere kya hua. It is one of the most ear friendly songs. Also loved bholi si surat
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December 15, 2018 at 2:31 AM
in fact the srk entry towards the end of “Le gayi Le gayi…” song hooked me so much that…..once the show had started and i reached after that song was over….so i watched the movie all over again in the next show just for that entry scene 🙂 ha ha….that was the craziest thing I’ve done ever….and no, i have never done that for my fav. star – aamir! was totally in love with that film at that time…..Chak dhoom dhoom is such a peppy no…..DTPH title song….and yeah Naveen, akki was here also….so u can say, i’ve watched an akki film 7 times 😉
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December 15, 2018 at 2:32 AM
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December 14, 2018 at 8:23 AM
Must be the first ever song I saw on TV so always memorable. I always remembered this film as Rishi Kapoor coming back from the dead after a crash but watched it recently to learn different. Fickle memory!
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December 14, 2018 at 8:35 AM
Group Stage – Round Robin 3 –
Group 1
Laadla
Janbaaz
Group 2
Judaai
Mr India
Group 3
English Vinglish
Chandni
Group 4
Mom
Chaalbaaz
Group 5
Dil To Pagal Hai
Hum Aapke Hain Koun
Group 6
Prem Pratigya
Raja
Group 7
Devdas
Khal Nayak
Group 8
Dil
Koyla
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December 15, 2018 at 12:30 AM
This is for round robbin 2:
Group 1
Lamhe
Laadla
Group 2
Sadma
Mr India
Group 3
Gurudev
English Vinglish
Group 4
Gumrah
Chaalbaaz
Group 5
Tezaab
Saajan
Group 6
Raja
Beta
Group 7
Parinda
Khal Nayak
Group 8
Dil
Anjaam
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December 15, 2018 at 12:53 AM
AnJo I have this already. Your vote for Round Robin 1 and 3?
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December 15, 2018 at 1:05 AM
Hopefully I am right here; round robin 3
Group 1
Laadla
Lamhe
Group 2
Sadma
Mr India
Group 3
English Vinglish
Gurudev
Group 4
Aakhree Raasta
Chaalbaaz
Group 5
Tezaab
Saajan
Group 6
Prem Pratigya
Raja
Group 7
Parinda
Khal Nayak
Group 8
Dil
Anjaam
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December 15, 2018 at 1:08 AM
Yes Round Robin 3 this is fine. Round Robin 1 left if you can?
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December 16, 2018 at 1:04 AM
Can I just continue with round 3?
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December 15, 2018 at 12:33 AM
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December 15, 2018 at 9:55 AM
Group 1
Laadla
Lamhe
Group 2
Sadma
Mr India
Group 3
English Vinglish
Chandni
Group 4
Aakhree Raasta
Chaalbaaz
Group 5
Tezaab
Hum Aapke Hain Koun
Group 6
Prem Pratigya
Beta
Group 7
Parinda
Khal Nayak
Group 8
Aaja Nachle
Anjaam
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December 15, 2018 at 12:47 PM
Group 1
Lamhe 24
Janbaaz 17
Laadla 6
Himmatwala 5
Group 2
Mr India 22
Khuda Gawah 17
Sadma 12
Judaai 1
Group 3
English Vinglish 20
Chandni 14
Nagina 14
Gurudev 4
Group 4
Chaalbaaz 20
Gumrah 14
Mom 9
Aakhree Raasta 9
Group 5
Hum Aapke Hain Koun 17
Tezaab 16
Saajan 15
Dil To Pagal Hai 4
Group 6
Pukar 18
Prem Pratigya 14
Beta 11
Raja 9
Group 7
Parinda 18
Devdas 15
Khal Nayak 14
Yaarana 5
Group 8
Dil 22
Aaja Nachle 14
Koyla 9
Anjaam 7
Group Stage – Round Robin 3 – voting ends Sunday 8PM GMT
Group 1
Laadla
Janbaaz
Group 2
Sadma
Khuda Gawah
Group 3
Nagina
Chandni
Group 4
Aakhree Raasta
Chaalbaaz
Group 5
Tezaab
Saajan
Group 6
Prem Pratigya
Raja
Group 7
Parinda
Khal Nayak
Group 8
Dil
Koyla
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December 15, 2018 at 12:49 PM
Sorry, editing above post:
Group 1
Laadla
Janbaaz
Group 2
Sadma
Khuda Gawah
Group 3
Nagina
Chandni
Group 4
Aakhree Raasta
Chaalbaaz
Group 5
Tezaab
Saajan
Group 6
Prem Pratigya
Raja
Group 7
Parinda
Khal Nayak
Group 8
Dil
Koyla
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December 16, 2018 at 1:50 AM
Did your overwhelming popular actress image prevent more art house projects coming your way? In spite of an occasional Dharavi you never really went about seeking realistic parts in your career?
Well, I did films like Mrityudand and Prahaar whenever I got those offers. Parinda was another movie that could be called off-beat. I had to say yes to do them, right? So I had never consciously stayed away from art house cinema. It’s all about doing a good film and at the end of the day the only difference between the two is that commercial films have more entertainment. Also I think I got my fair share of good parts to play within popular cinema. There were a few films where in spite of my doing challenging performances they didn’t do very well commercially like Sangeet, where I played a double role of a blind girl and her mother.
Were you disappointed by the failure of films like Lajja, Mrityudand, Prem Granth… which showcased some of your toughest acting moments?
No, because I enjoyed working in those films. I enjoyed doing those ‘controversial’ scenes, getting into those characters and playing out their lives; so it was a tremendous amount of satisfaction for me to have been able to do these varied roles. I have worked long enough to understand that you can never anticipate box-office results. There will be hits and misses but the fact that I got the opportunity to portray these characters is thrilling for me.
http://madhuridixit.weebly.com/interviews–articles/the-definitive-madhuri-dixit-interview
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December 16, 2018 at 1:55 AM
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December 16, 2018 at 2:07 AM
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December 16, 2018 at 2:07 AM
Group 1
Lamhe
Janbaaz
Laadla
Himmatwala
Group 2
Mr India
Khuda Gawah
Sadma
Judaai
Group 3
English Vinglish
Chandni
Nagina
Gurudev
Group 4
Chaalbaaz
Gumrah
Mom
Aakhree Raasta
Group 5
Hum Aapke Hain Koun
Tezaab
Saajan
Dil To Pagal Hai
Group 6
Pukar
Prem Pratigya
Beta
Raja
Group 7
Parinda
Devdas
Khal Nayak
Yaarana
Group 8
Dil
Aaja Nachle
Koyla
Anjaam
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December 16, 2018 at 2:22 AM
In each group there are 4 films. Every group has 2 sub groups. From each sub group, you have to chose one.
For example
Group 1
sub group
Lamhe
Janbaaz
sub group
Laadla
Himmatwala
Chose Lamhe or Janbaaz
Ladla or Himmatwala
Group 5
sub group
Hum Aapke Hain Koun
Tezaab
sub group
Saajan
Dil To Pagal Hai
Chose HAHK or Tezaab
Chose Saajan or DTPH
Just cut and paste all the 8 groups from my above comment. And delete the one you dont want from every sub group. Every group has 2 sub groups.
Group 1
Lamhe
Jaanbaaz
I will delete Jaanbaaz. So Lamhe will remain.
Ladla
Himmatwala
I will remove Ladla. So Hmmat wala will remain.
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December 16, 2018 at 2:28 AM
What is the original group without the score?
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December 16, 2018 at 3:12 AM
I remember Sadma and Mr.India were grouped together. I am searching for that group.
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December 16, 2018 at 3:24 AM
Sanjana groups are in the body of the post.
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December 16, 2018 at 2:34 AM
Another weak spot of mine…
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December 16, 2018 at 2:54 AM
Here’s another absolute favorite of mine; a crush – Aamir, though weak at certain points, channelized Shammi Kappor terrifically here, and Madhuri, well, she played the diva devastatingly…
Till date, I haven’t been able to understand why this film flopped…
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December 16, 2018 at 4:48 AM
Because india got mesmerised by SRK’s extraordinary act in Darr?
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December 16, 2018 at 3:30 AM
12 hours left! Our Round of 16 will be finalised! Please vote if you haven’t….
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December 16, 2018 at 1:59 PM
Voting CLOSED. I’m finalising the positions now and will update with next round in an hour or so!
It will be 8 matches of Sridevi Vs Madhuri…so please vote on your favourite film NOT actress! 😂
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December 16, 2018 at 2:27 PM
Some changes!!
Sadma has pipped Khuda Gawah by 1 vote!
FIRST EVER TIE Gumrah and Aakhree Raasta and as the head to head was a tie at 6-6, it’s my vote for Gumrah that sends it through (basically umpires call)
Chandni has pipped Nagina
Saajan has been knocked out! (Hum Aapke Hain Koun advances)
Khal Nayak pipped Devdas
With Koyla, Anjaam, Dil To Pagal Hai and Devdas – SRK plague has hit hopes of 4 Madhuri films! Ouch!
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December 16, 2018 at 2:49 PM
Round of 16 Madhuri Vs Sridevi ROUND – voting ends Tuesday 8PM GMT
Lamhe Vs Khal Nayak
Janbaaz Vs Pukar
Mr India Vs Parinda
Sadma Vs Aaja Nachle
English Vinglish Vs Hum Aapke Hain Koun
Chandni Vs Prem Pratigya
Chaalbaaz Vs Tezaab
Gumrah Vs Dil
Some juicy matchups here!
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December 16, 2018 at 2:53 PM
My vote to advance to Quarter Finals;
Khal Nayak
Pukar
Mr India
Aaja Nachle
English Vinglish
Chandni
Tezaab
Gumrah
Hardest ones for me were Mr India Vs Parinda and English Vinglish Vs Hum Aapke Hain Koun – I think EV is a superior film to HAHK even if I love HAHK in it’s own corny way.
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December 16, 2018 at 2:59 PM
Man Jayshah tomorrow is Monday and work-day and a stress-inducing day for me..not work..but dealing with people!!
And now you are giving me contests to choose between, well, simply un-checkable tick-boxes!! HAHK versus EV? PARINDA versus Mr. India? Sridevi at her best versus me discovering manhood at child-hood and asking my Dad to get me married to Madhuri immediately! — having first night on Madh Island — and of course, getting slapped in return and asked to focus on multiplication tables!! Tough choice….
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December 16, 2018 at 4:06 PM
Randomised draw – blame my wife 😀
Anyway I’m gutted with the same 2 matchups. Gutted Saajan is out so early! World Cups can be stressful!
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December 16, 2018 at 4:10 PM
I have to say to this day, Nana Patekar killing Anil and Madhuri in a blaze of gun shots in Parinda depressed me when I was a kid. Never understood such a horrible ending. I might have to watch that movie again to relive it. Was it the wedding night? I can’t remember.
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December 16, 2018 at 4:47 PM
Since it is Christmas..we probably can play movies white elephant..
Jay send me random list of movies (as arbiter or I can choose myself)…
Commentators choose number and I reveal a movie name which they have to see and review..
Any commentator may choose to pick from lot or already opened movie..
If they choose from already opened movie..It is will be marked stolen..
The person who was owning stolen movie should choose from already opened or unopened list.
A movie could be stolen almost 3 times.
Please review the movie in thread. Honor system.
Movies which are on Netflix/Prime on the list.
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December 16, 2018 at 4:26 PM
Lamhe
Pukar
Mr India
Sadma
Hum Aapke Hain Kaun
Chandni
Chaalbaaz
Dil
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December 16, 2018 at 5:16 PM
Lamhe
Pukar
Parinda
Sadma
HAHK
Prem Pratigya (this was tricky, went with Madhuri!)
Tezaab
Dil
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December 16, 2018 at 5:17 PM
Khal Nayak
Pukar
Mr India
Sadma
Hum Aapke Hain Koun
Chandni
Chaalbaaz
Gumrah
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December 16, 2018 at 5:33 PM
Round of 16 voting, my choices:
Lamhe
Pukar
Parinda
Sadma
Hum Aapke Hain Koun
Chandni
Tezaab
Dil
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December 16, 2018 at 5:37 PM
Lamhe
Pukar
Mr India
Sadma
English Vinglish
Chandni
Chaalbaaz
Gumrah
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December 17, 2018 at 2:19 AM
Lamhe
Pukar
Mr India
Sadma
English Vinglish
Chaandni
Chaalbaaz
Gumrah
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December 17, 2018 at 2:23 AM
This round is an interesting one and tough. i think it is difficult to seperate the actor from the films and so choices are that much more difficult
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December 17, 2018 at 3:41 AM
😀
Group was easier. Now is time to separate fandom from film somehow. Not easy!
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December 17, 2018 at 3:55 AM
Not easy at all. for eg- Jaanbaaz vs Pukar. If I recollect, Sridevi had a very inconsequential role in it. The movie was more known or rather notorious if I may say for the Anil-Dimple combo.
But many seem to prefer it over Pukar where I thought Madhuri was very good
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December 17, 2018 at 4:23 AM
Fair enough. If someone prefers Janbaaz as a film it’s fair! The way the votes are going so far, Sridevi films are doing well. In total it’s 42 to 30 in favour of Sridevi so far.
Lamhe leads Khal Nayak 6-3
Pukar leads Janbaaz 8-1
Mr India leads Parinda 7-2
Sadma leads Aaja Nachle 8-1 (my sole vote here for Aaja Nachle as I have not seen Sadma)
Hum Aapke Hain Koun leads English Vinglish 6-3
Chandni leads Prem Pratigya 7-2
Chaalbaaz leads Tezaab 5-4
Gumrah leads Dil 5-4
So overall right now we have 6 Sridevi quarter finalists to 2 for Madhuri. So by default Hum Aapke Hain Koun will not face Pukar in next round as things stand. The last 2 matches are tight so it can change once Madhuri fans wake up and stop dreaming about her and actually vote for her films 😀
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December 17, 2018 at 5:02 AM
This actually proves my point of few days ago! More of Sridevi’s movies are being preferred which does indicate that choice of the film does play a great role in the viewer’s mind on his opinion of the actor/actress
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December 17, 2018 at 2:24 AM
Lamhe
Janbaaz
Mr India
Sadma
Hum Aapke Hain Koun
Chandni
Chaalbaaz
Gumrah
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December 17, 2018 at 3:43 AM
Khalnayak
Pukar
Mr India
Sadma
HAHK
Prem Pratigya
Tezaab
Dil
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December 17, 2018 at 5:10 AM
Please ignore my past entry –
My final vote after rewatching a few:
Khal Nayak
Pukar
Mr India
Sadma
Hum Aapke Hain Koun
Prem Pratigya
Tezaab
Dil
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December 17, 2018 at 5:21 AM
I just woke up. Sorry for dreaming Mads!!! An jo and Jayshah came together in our little rendezvous and spoilt it.
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December 17, 2018 at 5:22 AM
You sure it was Madhuri and not Akshay in disguise, you know he’s a great actor and can easily fool you 😀
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December 17, 2018 at 5:23 AM
haha !!! 😀
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December 17, 2018 at 5:52 AM
Following revised entry;
Lamhe leads Khal Nayak 6-3
Pukar leads Janbaaz 8-1
Mr India leads Parinda 7-2
Sadma leads Aaja Nachle 8-1 (my sole vote here for Aaja Nachle as I have not seen Sadma)
Hum Aapke Hain Koun leads English Vinglish 6-3
Chandni leads Prem Pratigya
Tezaab leads Chaalbaaz 5-4
Dil leads Gumrah 5-4
Sridevi leads Madhuri 39-33 (this has no bearing on anything, just for fun) in total votes.
Sridevi 4-4 Madhuri as Tezaab and Dil have turned it around. Naveen became a fan of Aamir Khan for Madhuri 😀
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December 17, 2018 at 7:33 AM
Round of 16 Madhuri Vs Sridevi ROUND –
Khal Nayak
Pukar
Mr India
Sadma
Hum Aapke Hain Koun
Chandni
Chaalbaaz
Dil
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December 17, 2018 at 8:06 AM
Lamhe
Pukar
Mr India
Sadma
English Vinglish
Chandni
Chaalbaaz
Dil
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December 17, 2018 at 4:41 PM
Final 20 hours to go. Looks like Lamhe, Pukar, Mr India, Sadma, Hum Aapke Hain Koun, Chandni, Chaalbaaz & Dil are heading through. So looks like 3 Sridevi Vs Madhuri matchups and 1 Sridevi Vs Sridevi.
Tezaab getting knocked out here is a bit of surprise if it happens! I’m missing votes of quite a few.
It’s turning into a bit of a Sridevi show at moment. Two guys who found their manhood yet to vote LOL.
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December 17, 2018 at 5:18 PM
Personally i feel Lamhe is overrated. I mean Lamhe pales in comparison with a movie like Silsila. The younger Sridevi was irritating and Anil Kapoor lost his manhood by shaving off his moustache which was his only asset in songs with Madhuri.
I chose Khalnayak because it was true blue entertainment. Actually getting the tickets for the first day was as prestigious then as getting a tix for Wimbledon final or World cup finals. I got it then and the experience i had was similar to what Rajnikant gets. The movie rested on a thin story line but had some amazing songs, great acting by Madhuri and Sanjay Dutt had to play to the gallery which he did with panache.
So am surprised that Khalnayak is struggling against Lamhe. So those who have not voted, please do else.
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December 17, 2018 at 7:28 PM
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December 18, 2018 at 4:39 AM
This is a memorable childhood song. Doesn’t Chunkey Pundey get stabbed soon afterwards?
Gosh these films are so very hard to recall for me!
Of all the films here I want to revisit Parinda. I’ve seen Khal Nayak, Chandni and Gumrah recently, Tezaab like a gazillion times over likewise Hum Aapke Hain Koun.
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December 18, 2018 at 4:46 AM
You HAVE to revisit PARINDA. An absolute marvel of a film in terms if Indian film contxt in general and Hindi in particular..I plan to write an ‘essay’ on the trinity of NAYAKAN, PARINDA, and AGNEEPATH…all during 1989 and 1990,,, seminal films
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December 18, 2018 at 4:51 AM
I remember only few scenes. Gut wrenching killing of Anil and Madhuri plus Jackie’s revenge. I was probably 10 or so when I watched it so seeing someone burned alive was quite a shock!
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December 18, 2018 at 4:46 AM
This song is the anthem for every night outs one does with friends. It is timeless.
Yes Chunkey gets killed immediately after this song. I have to see Tezaab many more times to match yours.
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December 17, 2018 at 5:47 PM
i am so confused with the sea of comments that which is the group I have already voted and which is the one I haven’t!
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December 18, 2018 at 1:29 AM
Ideaunique it’s so easy now as you only have to vote on 8 matchups. Just READ the post! 😀
Don’t read the comments
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December 18, 2018 at 1:33 AM
Lamhe Vs Khal Nayak = KHAL NAYAK
Janbaaz Vs Pukar = PUKAR
Mr India Vs Parinda = PARINDA
Sadma Vs Aaja Nachle = AAJA NACHLE
English Vinglish Vs Hum Aapke Hain Koun = HUM AAPKE HAI KOUN
Chandni Vs Prem Pratigya = PREM PRATIGYA
Chaalbaaz Vs Tezaab = TEZAAB
Gumrah Vs Dil = DIL
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December 18, 2018 at 2:33 AM
😀
AnJo is Madhuri’ed up today!
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December 18, 2018 at 4:23 AM
you left me with no choice. Under God’s no-longer Green earth would I have chosen AN or SADMA. SADMA is a life-altering performance from Sridevi; though the last 15 minutes, when Sridevi reverts back to her irritating voice and acting, put me off, the time that she was in character with being an amnesiac, well, pure gold standard. I CANNOT imagine anyone in her place..
And Hassan, well, just no words at all…
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December 18, 2018 at 4:24 AM
Oops sorry..need stronger meds for my insomnia…gotta report to work in 2 hours…
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December 18, 2018 at 4:54 AM
An jo – you just made me feel less Madhuri now.
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December 18, 2018 at 5:32 AM
No I am pointing out the difficulties of this context. SADMA is a true-blue masterpiece from hassan and Sridevi. It’s not the overall performances per se, but the film in totality. However, this doesn’t take an INCH away from Madhuri’s act..
And I have always said, in terms of filmography, Sridevi wins, not because she was better than Mads, but only because she was lucky enough to work directors from Tamil and Hindi at their peak…
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December 18, 2018 at 5:37 AM
Any vote counts for whatever reason. Manhood, a likeness for a song, a scene, overall movie, technical grounds, visual grounds, it’s shot in Mozambique whatever. Who cares, you need not justify why unless you want to!
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December 18, 2018 at 6:18 AM
JS sorry if I am sounding like a pain..what you have done here is commendable…I am only talking from the point of voting concerns.. and that;s why I brought in the fundamental conflict of innate talent versus filmography…
And again, manhood, etc.n are all just memories…but have they stayed long enough? In the sense, of that was all the quotient, then Mallika would be remembered by 100 year olds….does Parinda hold the test of time? Does TEZAAB still qualify as a fine entertainer?
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December 18, 2018 at 6:36 AM
I could still transport myself into Tezaab land for sure. I think if it’s part of your childhood it’s easier. Whether it’s any better than a film of similar kind today is different I guess. One edge for sure is music.
Also I’d say growing up in foreign land might have a bearing here. NRI’s in the main followed Bollywood through 80’s and 90’s, I myself only opened up to other industries from 05 onwards. The awareness of Sridevi’s regional films to my parents would be zilch as they only know Hindi. So that is another factor whereas people from South India will probably be better placed for an opinion on Sridevi.
I’d say Bahubhali is really in this sense a true blue icebreaker. Only on a diverse blog like this will you get a more informed opinion.
So maybe Sridevi has a huge edge here from indian voters who’ve seen everything and foreign voters probably haven’t (like me). I won’t be going out to see her non Hindi films. Not that interested in all her Hindi stuff either!
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December 18, 2018 at 6:38 AM
Basically not compelled to watch non English or non Hindi films in general!
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December 18, 2018 at 6:42 AM
But to your point you can vote purely for talent or filmography – up to you. On both for me I generally prefer Madhuri. But it would be unfair to take my position seriously. I’ve not seen most of Sridevi’s films period. So I’m not remarkably passionate here of outcome!
Madhuri is for sure my favourite all time actress. But if push came to shove my favourite film or World Cup winner here would be English Vinglish. Such a lovely story, very touching. Reminded me of how I always use to correct, mimick my mum for speaking bad english. Oh what a fool I was.
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December 18, 2018 at 7:16 AM
That is the reason why it should have been independent contests for both. But as you are not too familiar with Sri’s filmography, you thought of making it a contest between the two will be easier.
English Vinglish touched you somewhat personally and it is also quite recent enough. Can understand your confusion.
But this is also quite interesting as it has made passionate discussions possible. I dont care for height or sexiness in a leading lady. I just care for the face and the expressions. That is why I like Savitri immensely inspite of her figure. I am a face person. Friendly faces attract me even if they are not perfect.
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December 18, 2018 at 7:37 AM
No confusion for me. Makes it even easier to choose if you haven’t seen it! Somewhat unfair but then not everyone has perfect information.
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December 18, 2018 at 7:49 AM
Atleast you should try to watch Chaalbaaz fully. Even if it is after the contest is over. Sharper than Seeta aur Geeta.
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December 18, 2018 at 7:51 AM
Will try.
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December 18, 2018 at 4:04 AM
Final Update – 10 hours left
Lamhe leads Khal Nayak 7-5
Pukar leads Janbaaz 11-1
Mr India leads Parinda 9-3
Sadma leads Aaja Nachle 10-2
Hum Aapke Hain Koun leads English Vinglish 8-4
Chandni leads Prem Pratigya 8-4
Tezaab tied with Chaalbaaz 6-6 (Chaalbaaz will go through as it collected more votes in Group Stage)
Dil leads Gumrah 8-4
So it’s 49-47 overall with Sridevi leading
4-3 in head to head battles with Sridevi leading
Tie score will result in elimination of Tezaab! Tony Montana, Ideaunique and Saket where are your votes?
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December 18, 2018 at 4:07 AM
Pretty much confirm Pukar, Mr India, Sadma, Hum Aapke Hain Koun, Chandni and Dil. Lamhe Vs Khal Nayak and Chaalbaaz Vs Tezaab can change! If 1 Madhuri film can scrape through it will be 4 Vs 4 in QF’s!
Sanjana want to change your vote? 😀
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December 18, 2018 at 4:12 AM
No. I dont mind any of them winning as I like both of them to some extent. I went by films than actors here.
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December 18, 2018 at 4:18 AM
Anyway my film to win the tournament is getting knocked out in this round. English Vinglish damn…so far only Lagaan’s victory has given me some peace of mind. DDLJ winning was not ideal. The ideal final here might be Mr India Vs Hum Aapke Hain Koun.
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December 18, 2018 at 4:09 AM
I should have participated during srk wc from the beginning. At that time I did not take it seriously.
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December 18, 2018 at 4:50 AM
If people had voted for films and not thier favourites, Tezaab and Dil would have been in trouble
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December 18, 2018 at 4:56 AM
Latha, please change your votes for Madhuri’s films. I will waive off your loan.
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December 18, 2018 at 5:19 AM
I voted for Pukar if you noticed. Dil is a bad film by any standards(watched it in the theatre if I remember and hated it) .
My criteria for choosing is that either Madhuri or Sridevi must have had a substantial part and of course the film overall.
Will take a raincheck on your offer😁
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December 18, 2018 at 5:29 AM
My criteria is the same. Film first, then actress. And then as Marcus said…tip tip barsa paani 😀
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December 18, 2018 at 4:57 AM
Hmmm. I agree on Dil probably. On Tezaab it’s quite an iconic film for 80’s born. These films in late 80’s like Tezaab, Ram Lakhan, Tridev, QSQT, MPK are like my staple diet of Bollywood. VCR collection and watched many times over. Voting against them would be difficult for me. My votes here are a bit unfair as I haven’t seen 50% of Sridevi films so I can only vote for what I’ve seen. On Dil, I like the songs a lot but I prefer Gumrah. Chaalbaaz I’ve seen bits and bops and no chance I’ll vote out Tezaab. In fact very few Madhuri films I would against Tezaab!
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December 18, 2018 at 4:27 AM
Deepika versus Priyanka for WC?
Anushka versus Alia?
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December 18, 2018 at 4:31 AM
Kangana versus Deepika.
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December 18, 2018 at 5:25 AM
Lets do that after Manikarnika releases. Till then let there be ‘tip tip barsa paani’ watching madhuri’s nineties stuff.
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December 18, 2018 at 4:51 AM
Jayshah – “Final Update – 10 hours left”
Can we please extend this till Friday when Zero will release. With many more SRK fans expected to come, it would be more votes for sure.
Madhuri is lagging because of NOTA voters.
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December 18, 2018 at 4:55 AM
They will be too excited to look beyond Zero! As Zero has Sri in a miniscule role and Srk acted with Sri in Army, the result maybe opposite.
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December 18, 2018 at 4:58 AM
Lamhe Vs Khal Nayak = Lamhe
Janbaaz Vs Pukar = PUKAR
Mr India Vs Parinda = Mr India
Sadma Vs Aaja Nachle = Sadma
English Vinglish Vs Hum Aapke Hain Koun = English Vinglish
Chandni Vs Prem Pratigya = Chandni
Chaalbaaz Vs Tezaab = Chaalbaaz
Gumrah Vs Dil = Gumrah
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December 18, 2018 at 4:59 AM
WHAT????
I just felt like someone putting a dagger right when i was about to get a new car.
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December 18, 2018 at 5:11 AM
You felt like Chunkey Pandey?
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December 18, 2018 at 5:01 AM
Those who have not voted.
See this song once. till the end. and then vote.
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December 18, 2018 at 5:04 AM
I listened to this song on Sunday.
I forgot ‘ouch’.
But this song and film Beta is out. You need to post Mohini, mohini oh oh oh oh….
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December 18, 2018 at 7:11 AM
@Jay,
I don’t which is this round I am voting for, but here u go 🙂
Janbaaz Vs Pukar = Janbaaz
Mr India Vs Parinda = Mr India
Sadma Vs Aaja Nachle = Sadma
English Vinglish Vs Hum Aapke Hain Koun = Hum Aapke Hain Koun
Chandni Vs Prem Pratigya = Chandni
Chaalbaaz Vs Tezaab = Chaalbaaz
Gumrah Vs Dil = Gumrah
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December 18, 2018 at 7:13 AM
Correct Ideaunique! You are fine here.
But you forgot Lamhe Vs Khal Nayak!
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December 18, 2018 at 9:31 AM
ofcourse Lamhe!
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December 18, 2018 at 9:36 AM
Ideaunique – you love Tabu right? Watch Andhadhun, she is smashing in it. Easily the best actress and absolutely gorgeous in her nightwear. She has a a very naughty role.
Though Radhika is my new favourite.
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December 18, 2018 at 11:49 AM
Ok very much looking like
Lamhe 9
Pukar 12
Mr India 11
Sadma 12
Hum Aapke Hain Koun 9
Chandni 10
Chaalbaaz 8
Dil 8
Clearly looks like Sridevi is winning the battles.
Get ready for quarter final time soon.
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December 18, 2018 at 1:11 PM
Quarter Finals – voting ends Wednesday 19th December at 8pm GMT
Sadma Vs Pukar
Chandni Vs Hum Aapke Hain Koun
Lamhe Vs Dil
Mr India Vs Chaalbaaz
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December 18, 2018 at 1:14 PM
Right as Zero releases, I’m finishing this World Cup by Friday GMT 8pm.
So QF is in play
My vote
Quarter Finals – voting ends Wednesday 19th December at 8pm GMT
Pukar
Hum Aapke Hain Koun
Lamhe
Mr India
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December 18, 2018 at 1:18 PM
Sadma
Chandni
Lamhe
Mr India
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December 18, 2018 at 1:22 PM
No place for Madhuri?
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December 18, 2018 at 1:24 PM
In my heart.
But her filmography is unattractive compared to Sri’s.
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December 18, 2018 at 1:28 PM
Pukar’s ending is too dramatic and unbelievable for a serious theme.
HAHK is too cheesy with that dog carrying messages!
Dil is too loud.
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December 18, 2018 at 1:31 PM
LOL. I can’t argue with that except all have Madhuri Dixit!
But toffy is integral to HAHK, should have been nominated best supporting actor instead of Salman.
It’s obvious the only way for Madhuri to win here is for Hum Aapke Hain Koun to win! LOL DDLJ and HAHK! That would be hilarious! #votehahk!
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December 18, 2018 at 1:40 PM
I dont mind her winning. Best of luck!
Haarkar bhi jethnewali ko kehte hain Baazigarni.
Forgive my hindi.
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December 18, 2018 at 1:54 PM
Beta should have made it to next round..She was good.
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December 18, 2018 at 2:02 PM
I liked the face off between Madhuri and Aruna Irani. Hated Anil Kapoor for his blind Ma worship.
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December 18, 2018 at 2:16 PM
Same here. I don’t like the film otherwise. Indra Kumar films in general are poor. Only music is good like Dil and Mann. My favourite would have to be from Raja
Love Madhuri here and her eyes! It’s ruined by the depressing presence of Sanjay whoever.
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December 18, 2018 at 1:36 PM
Sadma. I felt Sri’s acting was irritating and embarrassing at some points. Kamal’s was more interesting and empathetic.
Chandni is la la land of Yash Chopra and too sugary for my taste.
Lamhe ending left me fuming. The old man and the child woman.
Only Mr.India and Chaalbaaz were pure fun.
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December 18, 2018 at 1:51 PM
Sadma
Hum aapke Hain Kaun
Lamhe
Chaalbaaz
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December 18, 2018 at 3:59 PM
Sadma
Chandni
Lamhe
Mr India
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December 18, 2018 at 5:22 PM
Sadma
Hum Aapke Hain Koun
Dil
Mr India
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December 18, 2018 at 5:32 PM
Sadma
Chandni
Lamhe
Mr India
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December 18, 2018 at 5:36 PM
LOL, all four films here are Sridevi’s. Pity Tezaab didn’t make it through. I would’ve picked Pukar over most other films here, just not Sadma. But partly the problem also is that Madhuri never got the chance to feature in too many substantial films. She should either have arrived a few years earlier or a few years later. She was hugely iconic but Sridevi has many more starring parts (in the true sense).
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December 18, 2018 at 5:59 PM
Younger crowd is picking Madhuri’s movie and oldies are going with Sri. Once my adrenaline rush reduces in few years, probably my choice would be similar to Satyam, Indian, Latha and Z.
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December 18, 2018 at 6:12 PM
I’m just selecting the films I like more! Incidentally I’ve never been a Sridevi fan at all.
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December 18, 2018 at 6:00 PM
Sorry did not mean old in age wise…more of mature audience.
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December 18, 2018 at 9:55 PM
Ha this is turning rapidly into the Sridevi World Cup!
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December 18, 2018 at 6:05 PM
I can predict a win for Hum Aapke Hain Koun.
Sau sonaar ki
ek lohaar ki.
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December 18, 2018 at 6:24 PM
Sadma
Chandni
Lamhe
Mr India
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December 18, 2018 at 6:25 PM
well, Madhuri may be a “part” of some big films and she may have acted well…..but look at above 4 films….Sri was equal to the male lead and even more….Chandni is God-mother of all films…
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December 18, 2018 at 8:03 PM
“Sri was equal to the male lead and even more…”
Was Madhuri any lesser in below movies (only picking from the list we have been given here) –
Khalnayak
Dil
Hum Aapke Hain Koun
Beta
Prem Pratigya
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December 18, 2018 at 6:31 PM
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December 18, 2018 at 6:36 PM
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December 18, 2018 at 8:06 PM
There are two easy draws that has got 2 extra movies of Sri in finals-
Mr India Vs Parinda
Sadma Vs Aaja Nachle
I mean its bad luck that the best of Madhuri movies got eliminated in previous rounds.
Have a look at this scenario
Mr India Vs Beta
Sadma Vs Sajan
I am not sure if the result would have been so one sided.
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December 18, 2018 at 9:12 PM
Sadma
Chandni
Lamhe
Mr India
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December 18, 2018 at 9:31 PM
A great unbiased detailed fact based analysis here
Why Madhuri Dixit is the Bollywood’s Best Actress ever.
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December 18, 2018 at 9:58 PM
‘A great unbiased’
And what is the name of Site ?
madhurimania.wordpress
Claps
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December 19, 2018 at 1:50 AM
Once you read it, you will swap ur votes.
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December 19, 2018 at 7:55 AM
Nveen, Buddy, this is just on satyamshot and you see the results. If this was like a major voting, madhuri would not even have a film in top 7 compared to sri.
Keep in mind that sri film likemom and english vinglish is not even here in qt final which both were just about better than anything madhuri did, as far as acting is concerned.
How do i explain, there was a song “I’m a Disco Dancer” and an actor became famous, and then few other hits dance songs followed. Followed by couple very good roles in film like pyar jukta nahin, gulamie, etc… but that actor wasn’t compared to amitabh. Not sayng madhuri is mithun but just trying to explain.
Not sure of your age but if you were over 20 in 80s, you would understand what sri was to film industry and you would have understood more how madhuri rose to fame.
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December 18, 2018 at 9:57 PM
Sadma
Chandni
Lamhe
Mr India and Chaalbaaz Both (Cant pick one here, Jayshah can pick his own choice here if bpth cant be added)
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December 18, 2018 at 10:12 PM
5 into 4 semi finalists doesn’t go so I will wait for that pick when it counts.
Eek the title of the thread will have Madhuri removed soon! You bloggers have woken me up at 3am to a nightmare! Where are Saket and Tony?
Sridevi is smashing it out of the park.
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December 18, 2018 at 10:08 PM
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December 19, 2018 at 2:16 AM
Sadma Vs Pukar = PUKAR
Chandni Vs Hum Aapke Hain Koun = HAHK
Lamhe Vs Dil = DIL
Mr India Vs Chaalbaaz = KHEL
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December 19, 2018 at 2:42 AM
Mr India Vs Chaalbaaz = KHEL
😀 😀 😀 😀 😀 😀 😀
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December 19, 2018 at 4:01 AM
Tick tock…10 hours left
Update
It’s carnage as Sridevi has amassed a huge cumulative 30 votes Vs 8 for Madhuri.
Lamhe leads Dil 8-2
Sadma leads Pukar 8-2
Chandni leads Hum Aapke Hain Koun 6-4 (a tie sends Chandni through as it’s amassed more votes in total till now than Hum Aapke Hain Koun)
Mr India leads Chaalbaaz 7-1 (indian john and Anjo have not voted)
So my beloved World Cup is about to end at the semi finals with Sridevi emerging as a decisive winner! But we shall carry on for 10 hours and see if Salman fans wake up, or fans of white fluffy dogs start to bark or the 1 Mohnish Behl fan in the world joins the blog to vote for Hum Aapke Hain Koun to turn the tables on Chandni. Lamhe, Sadma and Mr India look home and dry.
Tony – stop touching yourself and start voting! It’s not 1988, it’s 2018.
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December 19, 2018 at 7:56 AM
“Tony – stop touching yourself”
Jay, nothing wrong with it, let the man have his seconds 🙂
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December 19, 2018 at 7:47 AM
Sadma
Chandni
Lamhe
Chaalbaaz
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December 19, 2018 at 10:25 AM
Sadma
Chandni
Lamhe
Mr India
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December 19, 2018 at 11:22 AM
Voting closed. It’s over Madhuri fans. Sridevi has won the battles and the war!
Now it’s time for the semi finals!
1 day – 24 hour shootout. This time tomorrow is the final!
Sadma Vs Mr India
Lamhe Vs Chandni
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December 19, 2018 at 11:23 AM
My vote
Mr India
Chandni
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December 19, 2018 at 11:34 AM
Sridevi really destroyed Madhuri here.
Now it’s final 4.
Results of QF’s
Lamhe 10 Dil 2
Sadma 10 Pukar 2
Chandni 8 Hum Aapke Hain Koun 4
Mr India 8 Chaalbaaz 2
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December 19, 2018 at 12:02 PM
Sadma
Chandni
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December 19, 2018 at 12:05 PM
I just read the synopsis of Sadma. Sounds really interesting…
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December 19, 2018 at 12:45 PM
It’s a wonderful film. The only problem for me when I watched it back then and even recently was some portions of Sridevi’s performance.
She usually is a tremendous actress but in parts of this film, she screeched and over-acted too much, for my liking.
But Kamal’s performance was really excellent there. He hit the right notes and was absolutely perfect.
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December 19, 2018 at 4:04 PM
“Sridevi really destroyed Madhuri here.”
Not surprised at all. If the audience here was over the age of 40, Sri would have destroyed madhuri in 1st round itself.
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December 19, 2018 at 10:48 PM
That was still possible. But, they were competing with their own films first round.
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December 20, 2018 at 6:14 AM
Sadma
Chandni
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December 19, 2018 at 12:03 PM
Mr India
Lamhe
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December 19, 2018 at 12:47 PM
Sadma
Lamhe
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December 19, 2018 at 1:01 PM
Sadma
Lamhe
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December 19, 2018 at 2:03 PM
Mr India
Chandni
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December 19, 2018 at 3:12 PM
Sadma
Lamhe
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December 19, 2018 at 4:02 PM
Mr India
Chandni
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December 19, 2018 at 7:01 PM
Mr India
Lamhe
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December 19, 2018 at 7:11 PM
Mr India
Chandni
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December 19, 2018 at 9:51 PM
Is this a joke?
What’s the point of final vote here?
I am surprised by the result and don’t think it resonates the public reality. A close fight and Madhuri edging out is still justified. Even a “true” Sri fan will be shocked by the results.
These qualitative arguments on filmography can always be debated. Audience’s taste changes with generation. Silsila would be a blockbuster today. Sadma would not flop. Parinda would be superhit.
So the voting is skewed and many voted even when they had not seen one of the movie in comparison. It is like voting for congress no matter who is the candidate.
I am sure if done in a more inclusive public platform, the popular vote will be against Madhuri’s movies.
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December 19, 2018 at 9:52 PM
***I doubt if done in a more inclusive public platform, the popular vote will be against Madhuri’s movies.
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December 19, 2018 at 10:18 PM
Naveen, You havent lived through 80s. Sri gave umpteen hits and Blockbusters from 83 to 86. Just check BOI and see yourself and they themselves are missing data of some movies. There were years in 80s when she had 4 highest grossing movies every year.
It all changed in 87 after Nagina which was very close second highest grosser of the year and Highest profit maker of the year by a big margin. She again had 4 movies in top 5.
Her BO success from 83 to 87 itself is more than entire career of Madhuri.
And here i am talking about bollywood only, she was only actress/actor ever to be number 1 in Hindi, Tamil, Telugu for 10 years continuously. No other actress could ever be undisputed no 1 in any of these industry for 10 years continuously..
It took her marriage with Boney kapoor , a string of big flops like Roop ki rani, Banjaaran and Heer rajhna And HAHK’s legendary success for Madhuri to be undisputed no 1 actress.
Her 87-93 periods were all female dominated roles. She was not acttress but Male superstar and second highest paid actor after Amitabh bachchan. where big actors played supporting actor and she played double role in many of them. She did most number of double roles. Filmmaker relied on her.
She made comeback in 97 for her last movies before sabbatical. And you can watch Judaai and Dil toh pagal hai. And decode yourself which performance was more deserving for Best actress award that year. Actually, Dil toh pagal hai winning so many undeserving awards made me lost trust in Filmfare.
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December 19, 2018 at 10:19 PM
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December 20, 2018 at 6:21 AM
wow….this is truely a fan-tribute man! thnx – yeah! she was a queen and had her own terms….it is not at all easy to make Yash Chopra to bend to ur demands…she did it gracefully….
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December 20, 2018 at 6:34 AM
The reason i refrained from voting till semis is precisely this. No point in comparing a real female superstar playing lead roles with an item number objectified sexy siren of masala films. One hahk changes nothing. Madhuri does not hv a filmography to be compared with sri, even if her voice modulation is better in hindi.
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December 19, 2018 at 10:21 PM
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December 19, 2018 at 10:30 PM
Sadma
Lamhe
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December 19, 2018 at 11:30 PM
Hahaha … not a single dixit film made to the semis? End of tip tip barsa paani here. Same wud happen if u pitch bachchan against dharmendra.
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December 20, 2018 at 3:56 AM
Update-10 hours left.
The semi finals are awesomely placed!
Mr India 6-5 Sadma
Lamhe 6-5 Chandni
In the event of a tie, Mr India goes through above Sadma as it’s had more votes in total through World Cup (in fact it won the group with Sadma in same group). Lamhe will go through too for same reason of more votes.
So as of now, Sadma and Chandni need to turn it round and win the matchups and NOT TIE.
Ps indian john very interesting comments on Sridevi, didn’t realise she actually dominated Hindi markets this much.
Marcus – Madhuri fans are united, just not holding hands together for obvious reasons 😂
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December 20, 2018 at 3:58 AM
Only 11 votes! This is not good enough!
I am going to stop these unless we get 20+!
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December 20, 2018 at 4:04 AM
reflects the indifference when women are leads in a movie.
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December 20, 2018 at 4:08 AM
Irony is I did this as a few female bloggers requested it.
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December 20, 2018 at 4:13 AM
I think matching up comtemporary female leads may bring more votes? Not sure.
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December 20, 2018 at 4:14 AM
Not doing any more females! They have flopped! Well Sridevi hasn’t, Madhuri has to some extent.
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December 20, 2018 at 4:36 AM
Then finish this series with a cliffhanger – Bachchan WC. I think that will be a mega blockbuster.
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December 20, 2018 at 4:11 AM
For what it counts, my vote:
Sadma
Chandni
Jay counted by votes from semis during srk WC, so requesting him to count these too.
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December 20, 2018 at 4:12 AM
Hahaha you are creating photo finish scenario?
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December 20, 2018 at 4:14 AM
I genuinely like those two! I dont think Sri had that significant roles in mr india or lamhe.
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December 20, 2018 at 4:15 AM
Fair enough!
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December 20, 2018 at 4:20 AM
Both semi’s are 6-6 after Marcus’ vote but Mr India and Lamhe have the edge! CLIFFHANGER!
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December 20, 2018 at 4:20 AM
There are more males here than females. And most of males think of women as sexual objects and that reflected in some comments.
We , the fans of male stars, dont view the male stars as sexual objects. Otherwise everyone will be after those muscular heroes.
If there are mixed doubles. the participation will be more.
Madhuri Salman Khan
Hema Malini Bachchan
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December 20, 2018 at 4:33 AM
I reserve the right to find a female actress sexy or hot. It’s not why I voted for Madhuri in films, in fact despite how much more attractive I think she is I still say EV is the best film here because of my mum! LOL!
Men are men. To understand us you have to be us. Attraction or no attraction means little overall. Otherwise why suggest Deepika vs Priyanka? To further get us excited?
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December 20, 2018 at 4:38 AM
Men are men. I agree. No problem. I understand without being a male.
But I pointed out what drives most men.
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December 20, 2018 at 4:41 AM
No comment. Not walking into a gender debate.
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December 20, 2018 at 4:35 AM
How about Amitabh/Jaya vs Srk/Kajol; Aamir/Juhi vs Salman/Kat or Ranveer/Deepika. Mini WC maybe.
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December 20, 2018 at 4:38 AM
Anil/Madhuri was also a hit jodi. Lets match up all such jodis over the ages. But doubt if anything can beat srk/kjo jodi.
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December 20, 2018 at 4:42 AM
Filmography also counts.
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December 20, 2018 at 4:45 AM
Then i think srk/chimp(diya) jodi will take the cup! Interspecies homosexuality can even win that coveted Oscar.
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December 20, 2018 at 4:48 AM
We are entering Troll land.
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December 20, 2018 at 4:39 AM
Thats a great idea.
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December 20, 2018 at 4:52 AM
How many films has Anil done with Sridevi and Madhuri? He never got superstar status like Salman or SRK or Aamir.
So many films! Ridiculous! I decided to watch the end of Parinda on YouTube yesterday, that film’s ending is kick ass. Nana just goes nuts and kills a couple on their honeymoon on their boat. Movie masala magic!
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December 20, 2018 at 6:27 AM
Sadma and Chandni have a 7-6 lead now! These are 2 big close semi finals now!
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December 20, 2018 at 10:52 AM
half of Sadma belongs to Kamal. Chandni is Sri’s show all the way…..
here is one underrated song from Chandni….Sri gives an ocean of expressions in this one song! what an actress!
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December 20, 2018 at 10:53 AM
here is the video of that song
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December 20, 2018 at 11:12 AM
I really like Chandni. Very simple love story. If it reaches final it might get my vote!
2-3 hours left!
Chandni leads Lamhe 7-6
Sadma leads Mr India 7-6
One vote for Lamhe or Mr India will change things in favour of those films!
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December 20, 2018 at 11:20 AM
@Jay – Looks like the winner this weekend is going to be ‘Sadma’! 😛
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December 20, 2018 at 12:11 PM
Chandni is a text-book of emotions a woman can enact! honestly, I do not think we have any other movie in hindi industry who has captures so much of wide canvass of emotions from a leading lady in a single movie…..gamut of expressions depicting every single mood, costumes (i think she wore some 500+ dresses in this one movie), songs, dances…..everything was here in this one movie!
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December 20, 2018 at 11:23 AM
Sorry dude, cant stand the young Rishi or the older Kamal. Will anyday vote for a young Kamal or the older Rishi. As for Sri she is good in both. If both go thru, its going to be Sadma.
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December 20, 2018 at 11:27 AM
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December 20, 2018 at 11:30 AM
My target is 16 World Cup’s. The winner from each will play in the 17th Universe Cup;
So far we have
Dilwale Dulhania Le Jayenge
Lagaan
Sadma/Chandni/Mr India/Lamhe
Something like this, I am talking out aloud but may lose interest eventually.
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December 20, 2018 at 11:36 AM
Then every fight possible can take place in one to multiple threads when fans of all everything from actor, actress, song, musician, director etc can all go at it in unison.
I have to find a way of getting Madhuri in that universe cup! 😛
Next World Cup definitely will have a say.
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December 20, 2018 at 11:42 AM
Haha … Great Idea. Welcome to Jay’s Cinematic Universe – JCU. 16 films planned out at inception itself!
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December 20, 2018 at 11:48 AM
The competition will not be on equal footing. Certain stars will represent the strong teams and certain others will be there to make the numbers — effectively teams like Bermuda, Canada etc in a cricket world cup.
I have a different idea — put up a series of polls (which superstar you like the least, which actor (not star) you like to watch, which director, music etc) to evaluate everyone’s personal preferences towards films. And offer a persnalized report at the end of it. A cinematic version of the Rorschach test, if you will.
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December 20, 2018 at 11:52 AM
The fun part will be interpreting those Rorschach cards.
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December 20, 2018 at 12:06 PM
It’s partly predicated on the idea that we all have certain pathways to cinema. Some people, rather a vast majority, access films through the lead stars. Some find solace in a good story. Others are more inclined towards a wholesome experience or a predilection for a particular genre (comedy is gold as far as Hindi cinema is concerned!).
I’m actually quite interested in knowing this spread. Perhaps once we understand what is it that drives our choices, we can move forward and modify them — consciously. In effect, access cinema through different pathways.
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December 20, 2018 at 12:09 PM
Saket you want to be in people’s minds. If you were in mine during this World Cup, you would have been in the gutter!
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December 20, 2018 at 12:17 PM
LOL!
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December 20, 2018 at 12:18 PM
@Saket – The thing is that its a noble idea and i wud support it whole-heartedly. But once u lay out ur intentions straight-forwardly even before embarking, u may find v few takers who wud sincerely volunteer to be a human guinea pig! 😛
Introspection isnt v popular notion.
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December 20, 2018 at 11:53 AM
Essentially JCU will be countered by SCU.
@Saket – Dont commit the mistakes of Warner Bros!
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December 20, 2018 at 11:56 AM
Maybe I can turn this into matchmaking? Matchup film bloggers to their best partners by choices out of a survey. 😛
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December 20, 2018 at 12:07 PM
Every World Cup needs crappy teams to make up numbers. 16 is better than 32. More chances of quality. Anyway I’m imagining this right now. Not going for it. It’s kind of an editing idea with VKA before it goes to Aamir for sign off. We know what shit that VKA can cook up.
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December 20, 2018 at 12:20 PM
Dude, my personal favs like RDB and Swades have already been knocked-out from our Avengers Assemble idea.
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December 20, 2018 at 12:21 PM
Chillax. AR Rahman contest you get a chance right?
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December 20, 2018 at 12:31 PM
When is that coming up? Too many Rahman albums, not sure which ones i will end up rooting for.
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December 20, 2018 at 11:56 AM
Maybe I will come up with Avatar series in the meantime, but it will take an eternity to release them. Naveen has already made 3 disappointing star wars prequels with comic listing.
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December 20, 2018 at 12:18 PM
I think Jay u consider these:
Every actor’s (male/female) THE best film:
For eg: Sridevi – choose one from three – Chandni / Lamhe / Sadma
Big B: Deewar / Zanzeer / Don
DilipKumar: Devdas / Crap A / Crap B (ha ha just kidding, he has many great films to choose from)
and like that…..that would be really interesting.
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December 20, 2018 at 1:21 PM
Semi finals over
Chandni & Sadma win
Final is open for voting for 24 hours!
Sadma Vs Chandni
My vote
Chandni
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December 20, 2018 at 1:52 PM
Sadma
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December 20, 2018 at 2:21 PM
Chandni
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December 20, 2018 at 2:32 PM
Sadma
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December 20, 2018 at 3:16 PM
Sadma
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December 20, 2018 at 5:19 PM
Chandni
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December 20, 2018 at 8:26 PM
Sadma.
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December 20, 2018 at 8:34 PM
Sadma for sure!
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December 20, 2018 at 8:39 PM
Khalnayak
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December 20, 2018 at 9:04 PM
Then go to hospital.
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December 21, 2018 at 12:51 AM
Nice one Naveen. But Madhuri is out 😥
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December 20, 2018 at 9:04 PM
Between Sadma and Chandni –
Chandni
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December 20, 2018 at 10:00 PM
@Marcus @Naveen, guys pl. don’t hijack every other post with ur comments-war…….i suggest Munna/Satyam/Jay – pl. create a separate “mindless fan-wars” post where these guys can go and vomit as much as venom as they want against each other and save us from the tedious labour of wading thru zillions of useless comments….
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December 20, 2018 at 10:02 PM
Why are you including me?
See who is trying to provoke.
For god’s sake read Marcus’ agenda.
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December 20, 2018 at 10:12 PM
Sadma!
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December 21, 2018 at 12:04 AM
Feel bad Mr India is voted out as I feel it is one of Sridevi’s complete performances.
My vote is for Sadma now
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December 21, 2018 at 2:48 AM
@Jay – Update on final scoreboard and time remaining?
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December 21, 2018 at 3:02 AM
Soon give me 30mins walking into work
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December 21, 2018 at 3:21 AM
Sadma
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December 21, 2018 at 3:33 AM
PRK – Public Relations for Khan.
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December 21, 2018 at 3:33 AM
10 hours left
Sadma leads Chandni 7-4…
And WOW on total votes before final they are 49-49.
So MY VOTE wins the tournament in event of tie!!!!! Crucial then for a decisive winner, I don’t want the deciding vote here as I have not seen Sadma so I might retract my vote depending on how things pan out here…
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December 21, 2018 at 3:34 AM
Retraction is nasty politics.
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December 21, 2018 at 3:36 AM
I have not seen Sadma and voted Chandni. So my vote is one that penalises Sadma. Hopefully we don’t come to that or I will declare joint winners and throw in Madhuri too 😛
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December 21, 2018 at 3:38 AM
Khalnayak!
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December 21, 2018 at 3:46 AM
You have enough time. Watch it before you cast your deciding vote! You will not be disappointed.
Very very rarely you will come across films which almost entirely revolves around its two protagonists alone and where you do nit want to miss even a single moment
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December 21, 2018 at 3:48 AM
I’m at work. No time Latha. I will already remove my vote officially.
So it’s 7-3 to Sadma.
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December 21, 2018 at 4:56 AM
PLEASE VOTE – IT’S THE FINAL
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December 21, 2018 at 8:49 AM
Final is like Zero opening day, waiting to take off 😀
7-3 Sadma leads Chandni
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December 21, 2018 at 9:56 AM
Sadma Vs Chandni
my vote: Sadma
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December 21, 2018 at 10:01 AM
And shit!
I would’ve voted for Mr. India against Sadma!
Jay, any chance it could be brought back as a wild card entry? Lol!
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December 21, 2018 at 10:17 AM
No changes. You snooze you lose.
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December 21, 2018 at 10:19 AM
You are worried about Mr India whereas we were emotionally devastated by Madhuri’s early exit. We are looking for scapegoats now.
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December 21, 2018 at 1:00 PM
In a poorly watched final, Sadma has defeated Chandni 8-3.
Semi Finals were the show stealing matches in what ultimately turned out to be the Sridevi World Cup.
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December 21, 2018 at 1:12 PM
Player of tournament – Sridevi
Special Guest Appearance Award – Madhuri Dixit
Best Villain Award – voters against Madhuri 😛
Best Comedy Award – late vote for Mr India that may have knocked Sadma out at semi finals
Special Audience Award – all fans of Queen Madhuri who had hearts broken
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December 21, 2018 at 1:18 PM
that is pathetic. Sadma is not a patch on Chandni….
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December 21, 2018 at 1:30 PM
Sorry Ideaunique. Defeat and loss is part and parcel of life. You can argue with 8 people if you want.
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December 21, 2018 at 4:05 PM
Madhuri Dixit clearly has a brilliant collection of throwback memories, which we are glad for, BTW. The 51-year-old actress often treats us to delightful old photos and Thursday is one such day. On Instagram, Madhuri shared a photo of hers, which appears to be from the sets of 2002 film Hum Tumhare Hain Sanam. “Capturing memories on the go. Throwback Thursday,” she captioned the sepia-toned photograph, in which she can be seen navigating the busy streets with a camera. In the photo, Madhuri is dressed up in a traditional look – draped in a saree with gajra in her hair – just the look she sported in the 2002 film. She co-starred with Shah Rukh Khan and Salman Khan in Hum Tumhare Hain Sanam.
Meanwhile, here are some of the early comments that arrived on Madhuri’s Instagram: “Beautiful and still beautiful,” said an user while another added: “Gorgeous.”
Here’s what Madhuri Dixit posted as a throwback Thursday treat!
https://www.ndtv.com/entertainment/this-thursdays-throwback-treat-straight-from-madhuri-dixits-instagram-1965529?utm_source=taboola
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December 21, 2018 at 4:44 PM
Still beautiful as ever.
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December 21, 2018 at 4:55 PM
Glad to see Sadma win..
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December 22, 2018 at 2:25 AM
Forgot about his finals!
Congrats to Sadma.
It is all about filmography.
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December 22, 2018 at 2:28 AM
I never felt so sad about a last scene before or after!
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December 22, 2018 at 3:21 AM
one of the reasons why I cant bring myself to watch Sadma again. It just rips your soul at the end. the film kind of scarred me when I watched it as a kid
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January 27, 2019 at 5:14 AM
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January 27, 2019 at 5:16 AM
Incredible how young they both look!
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January 27, 2019 at 6:29 AM
Can’t believe this was 30 years ago.
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October 29, 2019 at 6:52 AM
I prefer Sridevi the woman who can hypnotise you with her raw innocence and killer eyes and untouchable versatility. Box Office wise she is ahead, She had tonnes of women orientated film that turned out highest grossing movie, Tohfa was women orientated but it was sridevi who played the bigger character, Nagina was highest grossing solo movie in 1986 behind karma which was a multistarrer that also had sridevi. HAHK wouldn’t of been successful without the team salman and sooraj bharjatiya who were know to give big alltime grossers like MPK, that would mean Madhuri role could of been done by another actress and same result.
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