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Zero has struggled to make much of an impact on day two as collections are set to come in the 16-17 crore nett range. There will be a 15% drop from the Friday when the film had to show this much growth to stay in the race despite an under performing day one.
The two day figures will be around 35-36 crore nett which is just not good enough and the writing is on the wall. The film has surprising done best in UP and Bihar which are normally the lesser performers for Shahrukh Khan starrers but it is probably the UP setting helping these parts.
Its another huge blow for the industry just after Thugs of Hindostan and unless a miracle happens for Zero its going to be a bad year for the industry theatrically. The euphoria of the huge extra revenue from digital is a blessing but getting huge crowds into theaters remains the big problem.
These 2 tweets were from April 2016 the man on to something and was correct
Ram Gopal Varma
@RGVzoomin
SRK must learn from mistakes of kamal and not listen to near n dear ones who are stopping him from becoming a Mega Rajnikant.
Ram Gopal Varma
Ram Gopal Varma
@RGVzoomin
Megastar SRK becoming ordinary fan,dwarf etc is as big a same blunder as what Kamal Hasan did to lose his stardom to Rajnikant(Salman Khan)
Don’t think Kamal Haasan ever wanted to become Rajnikant.
And SRK is clearly not attempting anything different, or different enough, to destabilise his connection with his core fan base. To compare him with Kamal is a bit farcical, to be honest.
Saket, to your last posts on the old topic… That’s exactly my problem with him. I feel bored with the same poses and expressions but that’s exactly what brings the fans to him (I think).
I’m more concerned with the question where all his fans are. He always wins when it comes to voting, his fans are everywhere in large numbers. Wouldn’t they also have to appear in large numbers in the cinema? This logic doesn’t open up to me.
Wouldn’t they also have to appear in large numbers in the cinema? This logic doesn’t open up to me.
I think only his fans show up in the cinema. Not a lot of neutrals, which explains the opening numbers. Online polls, I’m not sure of. There is obviously the possibility of manipulation in online polls.
Thanks for the answers.
So his fans are probably already going to the movies…I always had the feeling that they are much more because they seem to be everywhere! But the neutral mass is missing and that’s his real problem, I understand.
Here in Germany there are felt only SRK fans, in forums etc.. When I ask cinemas if they want to bring another film, the answer comes, it’s only worth it for SRK. But it’s about to change a bit.
His fans (mostly the giggling fangirls of the 90’s generation who gave 2 hoots to content) have had enough of the romantic hero image & had done with it 10 years ago. The problem with being a one dimensional romantic hero is that once you pass the 40’s, you seize to remain a romantic hero anymore & need to innovate & improvise. Rajesh Khanna failed to do so in the 70’s, Srk has failed to do so now.
You can’t tell me stars don’t want to be the biggest superstar it’s an ego thing and everyone has an ego, my point here is that srk made horrible decisions the last decade and that’s why he is here losing his stardom to Salman Khan, ram gopal verma was correct with this tweet
What I meant was that Kamal has been too much of an artist to settle down in Rajni’s mould. If becoming a megastar would come at the cost of experimentation, he wouldn’t opt for it. He can’t help his intrinsic calling there.
And in response to RGV’s tweets, Aamir has practically done the exact same thing that RGV is preaching against. He has experimented in all sorts of genres and has still experienced the highest Box Office success as well. So what gives?
Salman, for all his fan following, hasn’t been able to breach Aamir’s numbers in 10 years. So RGV’s analysis doesn’t make a whole lot of sense.
The element of surprise is no longer there with SRK both acting and film. Raees at least had a kick ass trailer.
We are flogging the proverbial dead horse. Content is king to get biggest successes. Relying on stardom is a finite strategy. For some it carries on for longer than others but if you churn out good content you will last longer. Agree with all your comments Saket.
RGV makes lot of sense here. Blunt but correct views. Kamal also always wanted to have Rajni’s God-like status, but could never got there…and in the process started doing mindless commercial films, lost his own identity also…..
From one developer to another – Linus never meant linux open source developers to change the code without understanding how the kernel works. Else the operating system will crash and no one can browse, so page-rank algorithms become useless. Right?
Linux comes in various flavors with different distribution certificates. I prefer mint and work with it. But some kind of moderation is always good. Just like my comments have to pass the moderation filter so that i dont spam.
Marcus – Excess of anything is bad…No one can deny your contribution to the blog but at times it has been disruptive..Please keep on commenting and things will be alright.
You can Bash Zero or any movie, in civil language all day and no one would complain.
Any thing personal or commentator objecting to comment directed to him/her (there is moderators’s discretion involved) , coarse language, or discourse abusing the star, is not allowed. There are warnings; Sometimes subtle and occasionally overt. Of course moderators and admin are not perfect. At end of day we love movies and want to exchange perspective.
Marcus, I don’t want unnecessary and pointless fights. Hope there will be no cause for action going forward. Incidentally these things are not up for ‘debate’. It’s a judgment call. It’s a take it or leave it deal! Things get feisty from time to time, that’s fine, there’s no need to get carried away however. Again hope things move smoothly in this sense going forward.
thanks for this admin, bcos it was shocking to hear another comment sometime ago, to the effect that spending more time here gives you more right to say disrespectful things..
You are twisting my sentence. I just said we are always here but did not say that we can say disrespectful things because of that. They are two different things.
MY FEMALE STAR OF THE YEAR is @TheMahiraKhan for empowering women, charity work, raising awareness of social causes & opening doors for her country globally. MY MALE STAR OF THE YEAR is @akshaykumar for making such a positive difference to women's lives.#MahiraKhan#AkshayKumarpic.twitter.com/Ra2xConv7L
Yes. Like always he has overtaken the next highest grossing actor by INR 2.50 after doing 17 films in one year & has thereby become the most profitable actor by selling all his films on commission & pocketing 99.1% of the profits.
Bhai – Dimaag se khela hai Khiladi. 🙂
Jeet Rs 2.0 ka ho ya, 2.0 paise ka…
Business mein mool aur sood samajhna jaroori hai because this number game is a business.
Popularity is not about doing ten 50 Cr grossers & accumulating 500 Cr in a year. Its about selling tickets & being the face of a movie, delivering huge grossers, record openings & highest annual grossers. Despite acting for 26 years Akshay has zero highest annual grossers (HR has 3, Ranbir got his first in 2018 within 10 years) & just 1 record opener in Singh is King. It took a Rajnikanth/Shankar sci fi for him to cross 175 cr (a feat achieved by Krrish 3 five years ago), that too post GST with 1000 more screens. Even in terms of profits, Padman is coverage, Gold is a loser & 2.0 is commission. Sanju alone has made more profit for its investors than all these 3 films combined. The fact is, post RR Akshay did some retrograde cheap mass entertainers like Boss & Khiladi 786 which antagonized the A audience. To win them over he did niche films (his best phase in terms of content) between 2016-18 which isolated his original fan base in the B/C centers (the kind who patronize pungent junk like RR & Welcome). Now he has no option but to do small films or else run the risk of giving big budget losers like Gold. Unless he gets Bhansali or Hirani to sign him of course, since right now they’re the only Bollywood makers who can get 200 cr out of an Akshay film.
I am posting Saket’s 2 comments from the last thread here for reference.
They point out clearly what neutral fans feel about his acting.
Most of the reviews mention that Zero is strictly meant for SRK fans. At least the ones that are negative take care to point that out.
I think this is a key message. SRK, for all his ambition, has not transcended the ambit of his initial stardom. His films and his roles are still catering to his original fan-base. There is no crossover audience to speak of. I say this without watching Zero, of course, but this is the sense that I get.
He has his trademark mannerisms, which define his stardom and his appeal to his fans, but they also alienate another section of the audience. There is not even an attempt to appear different. There are some exceptions like Dear Zindagi (even in this film, his dialogue delivery is reminiscent of his previous romantic roles) but by and large, he has been content to play the same character, or a variation of it, in film after film.
An actor, at least a real one, looks forward to challenges in his/her craft. What has been so challenging about films like Dilwale, HNY, Chennai Express, Ra.One, JHMS or Zero? Where is the drive to push oneself? If anything, it represents a pretty cynical mindset revolving around Box Office success. Perhaps this is the reason why he doesn’t have a crossover audience.
It’s not that people who are not his fans love to hate him. It’s more about finding something relatable in his work that stands out for others to appreciate. Otherwise, the refrain is: If I’ve seen one SRK film, I’ve pretty much seen everything he has to offer. His diehard fans may be OK with that, but why should others follow the same diktat?
As an example, SRK plays (or is supposed to play) a typical guy from Meerut in Zero.
From what angle does he resemble one? He has the same hairstyle, the same mannerisms (the song Mere Naam Tu comes to mind) and the same excessive energy to speak of. What’s really different?
Clearly love stories ain’t working for him anymore, I hope he just hires a new manager that can help him choose scripts with best content, it’s 2019 content is king. I hope a big director like Hirani or bhansali try to revive his career
This i something i really want Aamir to do and hope this really happens:
“Aamir has not seen a flop for a very long time. It does happen when things do not go according to the script. The failure of Thugs of Hindostan and Aamir’s subsequent admission for the failure of the film and apology to fans, there is a lot of contemplation and introspection taking place. When things are hunky dory, you move ahead as per plan. But when it is not happening that way, you do not know what to do. You look at what went wrong when you make a film like a masala potboiler unlike how Aamir chooses logic over magic in his other films. He is also slated to make the Mahabharata sometime in the future. Plus he has committed to old friend Amin Hajee to do a film for him,” says a source.
Dec 23, 2018
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Aamin Hajee is basically one of the writers associated with Lagaan/Swades. And this is perhaps the film that is/was planning to do:
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Known for roles such as Baghi in ‘Lagaan’ (2001) and Bit Da in ‘Mangal Pandey: The Rising’ (2005), not many know that Amin Hajee is in a fact a very talented screenwriter who will soon venture into his first directorial. And news has it he has signed Kunal Kapoor and Kalki Koechlin as his leads.
Titled ‘Koi Jaane Na’, Hajee has planned to start shooting for the film in September. Mumbai Mirror reports a source revealing, “It will be shot majorly in Scotland in a month-long schedule with some portions in Panchgani later. Kunal plays a writer who doubles up as a vigilante.”
Apparently, Hajee will turn to his mentor Ashutosh Gowariker for support.
Aug 2, 2018
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But i have no idea what has happened to this film. This is something which will suit Aamir perhaps best (hopefully).
Do you follow China closely, Marcus? After MB was confirmed more or less involuntarily, it sounds completely different there. He always says he reads scripts and there is no new project. He hopes that he can use the creative potential in China, that a Chinese director can approach him with a good script, that’s what he would like to do best. It sounds like a call, he says it more directly every day. It doesn’t sound anything like a soon MB and it doesn’t feel like he’s just being polite anymore. Very interesting!
Priyanka Chopra and Nick Jonas hosted a grand reception-cum-party for their Bollywood folks in Mumbai on December 20, 2018.
Many B-town biggies and PeeCee’s friends turned up in full attendance to bless the newlyweds.
What caught everyone’s attention was the absence of B-town’s Superstars, Shah Rukh Khan, Aamir Khan, and Akshay Kumar
Many speculations about the trio and their better halves missing the bash started floating in the media and the reason for the same was touted to be their past relationship with PeeCee.
But, if a report in DNA is to be believed, the ones who missed the bash, were busy with their work commitments.
The report further elaborated their whereabouts, Aamir Khan was in China for the promotion of his recently released film, ‘Thugs of Hindostan.
Shah Rukh Khan and Gauri Khan were busy hosting a special screening of ‘Zero’ at their house Mannat in Bandra on the same night, as the film was set to release the next day, i.e. December 21, 2018.
On the other hand, Akshay Kumar was busy spending time with his son Aarav Kumar who is in India for his winter vacation.
BOI goes so soft on Zero crash. With headline such as “Zero Second day business estimate”. For Thugs it was “Thugs Of Hindostan Has Big Fall On Day Two”
Double standards clearly indicated in their commentary to indicate their preference
#KGF witnesses an upward trend on Day 2 [Sat]… Biz should grow further on Day 3 [Sun]… Growth on Day 2 [vis-à-vis Day 1]: 42.86%… Fri 2.10 cr, Sat 3 cr. Total: ₹ 5.10 cr. India biz. Note: HINDI version.
#Zero slips on Day 2… Biz should’ve witnessed solid growth on Day 2 after an underwhelming Day 1, but is struggling at the BO… Decline on Day 2 [vis-à-vis Day 1]: 9.53%… Fri 20.14 cr, Sat 18.22 cr. Total: ₹ 38.36 cr. India biz.
The first 2 are telugu and tamil remakes of Queen with Tamanna Bhatia and Kajal Agarwal. The third one is teaser for trailer releasing on 26th of this month on Balasaheb Thackeray.
tamnnah and Kajal A. are far better actresses than KR and they are far bigger star down South in terms of popularity….South Industry is more disciplined and both these 2 hindi rejects have done superbly well down South.
Just watched zero it was a decent film, the first half was quite good actually it’s the second half that it starts to get weird, but overall not s bad film and Srk was quite good, if this movie came out when he was at the top of his game it would’ve done well but since he is in the downward spiral it flopped, I would give it 6 out of 10, the first half gets 4 out 5 it was really good, can’t believe the 2nd half caused this film to flop,
KGF is excellent business on all formats with second day collections of 19.25 crore nett across India. The film had a little drop in Karnataka but that is still great trending and is only behind Bahubali – The Conclusion in that state. The Hindi version had growth of 50% apprx which is good and it could sustain on the weekdays. Mumbai circuit might end up with good final numbers. The all india collections of the film are over 37 crore nett in two days.The approx first day figures of KGF are as follows.
Karnataka – 12,50,00,000
Hindi Markets – 2,00,00,000
Nizam / Andhra – 2,00,00,000
Tamil Nadu – 1,00,00,000
Kerala – 50,00,000
TOTAL – 17,90,00,000
The approx second day figures of KGF are as follows.
Zero Second Day Business
Sunday 23 December 2018 13.00 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
Zero showed a 12% drop in collections on its second day as it collected 17 crore nett apprx. This takes the business of the film to nearly 36.50 crore nett. The film really needed to grow on Saturday as though Friday was a decent opening day number as a whole it was not good enough for this film.
The surprise is UP and Bihar and these areas actually could do well as when a film falls 12% on an all India level then these areas fall 20% but here the fall in UP and Bihar is less than the major multiplexes and that too on a Saturday. It wont make much difference to the overall picture because in terms of collections they are just 12-15% of all India.
The worst performance is Gujarat which is not doing much more business than Rajasthan when it should be double. Normally these two trend pretty similar but not for Zero The two day figures for Zero are as follows..
Friday – 19,35,00,000 apprx
Saturday – 17,00,00,000 apprx
TOTAL – 36,35,00,000 apprx
There should be growth on Sunday but its unlikely that it will be 30-40% and may have to settle for collections in the range of the first day which would mean a 55 crore nett weekend which is poor number for such a film.
Has Rangan suddenly become producer to Rai, just like Kashyap?
Here’s his glowing review of Zero:
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Zero Review: This Very Literal Flight Of Fancy Is The Year’s Most Audacious Love Story
Zero is all heart. It probably won’t work if you start thinking about the probability of it all, but after a wobbly half-hour I found the film easy to embrace
Rangan and AnJo’s review give the film some life for future generations. If in 2050, Wikipedia can convert Zero release date to 20 years earlier and BOI will of course have it as an all-time blockbuster by 2025, by which time in 2050 Zero will be coined as a 1998 release and a generational revolutionary film following DDLJ…Zero has afterlife capability. But as Shahjaan said for our generation it’s a flop that had some promising moments and SRK’s downturn gave it little hope. So even today it’s a HIT if released many years ago 😀
Dont forget that Malala also watches hindi films and gives short reviews. First and last review for her. If Toh was shown to her, she would have given a good review. Bad luck!
AnJo has given that review to take revenge on aamir fans for certain reasons. Sort of cold war happening. And thats the reason for Naveen and AnJo liking each other’s comments recently and Naveen supporting AnJo vehemently like a knight in shining armour. AnJo will deny vehemently. But I am smelling something else. And Naveen calls me vindictive!
Now I will run and hide under the bed.
Sorry AnJo. Just what I felt and I maybe wrong.
Because you liked complicated lovestories like Tamasha too.
I liked Tamasha as well. But that film isn’t only a love story. It’s more about a person’s identity crisis. A carefully constructed fable about a man coming out of his society (and parental) induced shackles. And it’s not really that absurd to begin with.
Movie watching is very personal and we humans are complex people..
I liked and was intrigued by Ranbir’s Roy and I have not found one soul liking that movie..
I loved Cloud Atlas and recommended to some colleagues and now they don’t listen to my recommendation 🙂
That’s fair Sanjana. But I bet he responds with fairness in kind. Look at the Kadels and Jaiswals of the world. Their retorts are full of venom, Rangan’s a kind fella. Engages even under scrutiny yet defends his position with passion without forcing that opinion on you.
He accepts everyone has a voice. My assumption here, I’m not a follower on his blog. And might be misreading his behaviour.
Tamasha btw is a beautiful film. I’m listening to it’s songs a lot. Matargashti feels like 3 songs in one but so seamlessly interwoven. And if I recall the picturisation it was itself a random moment. Ranbir, Deepika jodi is very likeable.
Trust me it’s not as bad as it’s performance at the box office. Even if the second half goes haywire it still didn’t bore any of us at theatre. I suggest you to watch it, I went with 5 people and 4 of us found it enjoyable, the audience was enjoying it lots of laughs
Read the review carefully tonymontana. Here are some excerpts:
The “logical” questions melt away because Rai and his writer, Himanshu Sharma, are in such firm control of the absurdity of it all. This is, after all, a film that opens like a Western, takes detours into the musical and the melodrama, before taking a jaw-dropping leap into sci-fi.
I believe if you play fast and loose with the term sci-fi, you can call Zero a sci-fi film. Rangan also termed 2.0 a sci-fi film. Interstellar is a sci-fi film. And so is Gravity. Just because an absurdist film involves a man going to Mars, it does not become a sci-fi film.
This film, even according to Rangan, is the theatre of the absurd. The challenge for the audience is to find some semblance of sense amidst this absurdity. And people can certainly make some sense out of it. But that’s just a different reading of the film.
He does like the film, for sure. But for completely different reason(s). He likes the meta references in the film. He likes the OTT nature of the plot and the narrative style. In other words, he finds the OTT nature of the film to be quite wonderful.
That’s precisely what has bothered other critics of the film. They can’t seem to reconcile the absurdity with their tastes and expectations. And frankly, with a budget of 200 Crores, this film wasn’t meant to rely on a handful of critics liking the absurdist universe built by Anand L Rai.
Rangan’s polar opposite of Taran. He gives a review devoid of the baggage of box office. He’s thorough, I haven’t read this yet but I suspect for every film for as much as he can he will try to give it a shot. I find him intriguing but also not a barometer of whether I will like or dislike a film.
why you are repeadtedly misunderstanding today? this was also not meant for u..another comment up there is saying the critics cudnt reconcile the film with their tastes and expectations..my comment was a reaction to that only.
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As Jay says, Zero maybe another citizen Kane and we with low intelligence are unable to come to the same conclusion because we dont regard srk King of acting or emperor of acting due to our inherent bias against him.
These are the best movies of 2018, per IMDB ratings (min 5000 votes) which got appreciations from critics and audiences (interestingly two best rated movies belong to @ayushmannk).#Andhadhun – 8.9#BadhaaiHo – 8.2#PadMan – 8.1#Sanju – 8.1
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I have liked the comment not because it is supposed to be a disaster but for giving a peep into overseas picture. So far we are not getting overseas figures for Zero.
Hoping this negativity will end by the year end until the next release.
Till then peace.
Let us start the new year with less negativity because it is unrealistic to expect it to die down completely.
Let us wait for Simmba and Manikarnika which will not raise such passions and debates.
On a side note, just finished watching Tummbad and I agree with Saket that this is the best Hindi film of the year. Easily eclipses my other favourite, Andhadhun, in that this isn’t an easy film to shake off
Deeply affecting at a psychological level. The background score is still ringing in my ears. This isn’t merely a horror film. It’s folklore style storytelling is one for the ages, might rven go as one of the classic stories ever written when critiqued fairly years from now.
Anand Gandhi may be “niche” as it is fairly easy to bracket unique voices in the industry, but what a unique voice he is! Tummbad beeds to be watched by one and all, and aim curious to know what others think of it in this group. Yes for a change let’s discuss its merits rather than beating around the bush for Zero and TOH’s “who gives an eff” prospects in China
What struck me most about the film was its visual panache. It really is a tale visually narrated, although how the producers were able to manage this much technical finesse with a shoestring budget must comprise a story in itself.
It is, of course, a morality tale about a demon God who is (partly) oppressed by a family that teases him with the grain that he so covets. It’s also a fable about rites of passage within a male patriarchy. The sins of the father are passed on to the son and then, the grandson. It’s also, rather overtly, a tale about greed.
But as good as the story is, the film’s strength lies elsewhere. As you point out, this film stays with you. The visuals are so captivating, the background score is so pulsating, the film enters your system and refuses to leave. This, in effect, is the purest form of story-telling.
The horror elements in the film also add to the visceral feeling. And from the first frame itself, it becomes a captivating experience. There’s also lots to chew upon. In that sense, it’s a very remarkable film — beautifully mounted, but also gives you cause to reflect. A rare gem, indeed.
“It really is a tale visually narrated, although how the producers were able to manage this much technical finesse with a shoestring budget must comprise a story in itself.”
Undoubtedly! I however found some of the visuals–those involving Hastar the weakest link in the film, and mind you, those were still good, just that the film scores extraordinarily in just so many other aspects. I wouldv’e preferred if they hadn’t showed the demon god at all.. well, except maybe in the final scene. Why not present him just as an urban legend: who may or may not exist. That may well have left a lot to the imagination and more to ponder over!
I absolutely loved the part about the grandmother at the movie’s start, that’s what kept me going. the film was extremely neatly conceived and narrated, and I reserve special praise for the kid who plays Vinayak’s son.
“It’s also a fable about rites of passage within a male patriarchy. The sins of the father are passed on to the son and then, the grandson. It’s also, rather overtly, a tale about greed.”
— I agree, but I also found some reviews which called the film’s message rather simplistic about ONLY greed, and I’d like to add there’s more than what meets the eye.
I also see it as the Illuminati concept of how trading for one’s soul can promise one instant wealth but suffering till eternity. One can also make a case of why the film was set in Pre-Independent Era, and how its parallels can be drawn to the current socioeconomic scenario.
Tumbbad is a very well made..as said above, it is like mythological tale set in British raj..I don’t know what is the budget but it will give Hollywood movies run for money….I don’t think it is a horror movie..there are elements though.
I was about 60 % or so into tumbbad sometime ago, where he is taking his son to the village..got interrupted, and then somehow cudnt bring myself to start agian till now.. kind of hesitant..
Some critics first over do by predicting extra ordinary collections of a film & later on the day of release tear the film apart. Such acts badly damage the films business.
I will look out for Bansal’s producer figures on Zero (i like absurd stuff anyways as many will vouch for it). I am surely there will be lots of Zeros in it …
BUT i dont buy producer figures. I learnt it all from Satyam and Jay’s ‘analysis’, when i was a novice in naach-gaana stuff.
What a start…found 104 …35 mm films in a godown found Gulzar sahab’s Lekin the film I started my career … now lot of hardwork to save some of these rare films…… pic.twitter.com/nWAQOuX0Ms
I think it may be best to let go of any ‘debate’ or ‘proof’ or ‘analysis’ on the validity of Red Chillies’ producer figures for Zero.
Instead, we can enjoy the remaining days of the hols having some guilty pleasure (Simmba) OR/AND checking TOH’s chinese cut results in China.
But then again, I am not really a masala fan (sincere apologies to ‘Shetty’), nor am I sure of what Aamir can end up with after trimming off 45 mins of an ‘above’-average effort like TOH anyways. Moreover, it is likely to ‘loose’ all its showings in china with the subsequent releases of the local production ‘A Long Day’s Journey Into The Night’ or ‘Hollywood’s BumbleBee’. [ PS – I have always admired the visuals of Transformer series, although i find no attempt to make a story in those films whatsoever. Does that make me a fan? I dont know … and i dont think it matters. ]
So NO theaters for me please. I will binge-watch ‘Travelers in Netflix’
To sign off – Happy Holidays to all bloggers.
No unreasonable appreciation of Zero’s numbers were done by Red Chillies and SRK. It was widely forced on our throat by Marcus that this will happen. However he has so far not provided any claims.
Goes on to show that people like Kadel do take back their words because they need to show accountability, those shooting off do not.
This is just my observation as i said earlier, i am continuously monitoring.
Hmm, i agree. please delete the whole line – [ It was widely forced on our throat by Marcus that this will happen]. It was not meant to be on one person.
Zero under performed in the first weekend with collections of 54.50 crore nett. The figures on Sunday could not reach the first day number. The disappointment is what has happened on Saturday and Sunday. The opening was always not going to be huge though it should have been 20% better than what it was. Still this was not that action film or mass comedy which depended on the first day and could easily make up ground.
But instead of making up ground it lost ground. The drop in collections after day one tell its another Shahrukh Khan starrer which has got some numbers due to his presence with the content being rejected. The weekdays may get some numbers due to the holiday period.
The figures are better than Jab Harry Met Sejal and very similar to Fan which pretty much tells the story of the film. The first weekend figures for Zero are as follows.
Friday – 19,35,00,000 apprx
Saturday – 17,00,00,000 apprx
Sunday – 18,25,00,000 apprx
TOTAL – 54,60,00,000 apprx
The film has done best in UP and Bihar probably as the film is set in that world and these places tend to under perform for Shahrukh Khan. The collections in UP and Bihar are not blockbuster levels that it makes much difference to the overall picture but at least in these two states the film has managed average business which is better than other parts of the country.
Shahrukh Khan strongholds like West Bengal, Mysore and Tamil Nadu / Kerala have collected poorly as has Mumbai circuit. the Xmas factor could help over the next two days but the real level of the film will be known on Wednesday after the big holiday.
Top Overseas Opening Weekends 2018 – Zero Fifth
Monday 24 December 2018 10.45 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
Zero has not done well in Overseas as it had collected in the $4.75-5 million range. Gulf has done pretty with collections close to $1.75 million. It was released on Friday rather than the regular Thursday and on fair value it would be the second best opening of the year after Race 3 in Gulf. USA / Canada will be around $950k and United Kingdom will do £300k apprx. Both have not performed but it could also be due to pre Xmas and collections should sustain till the New Year. But the film probably does not have the reports to really take benefit of thsi period.
The best market is Pakistan where it collected $525k apprx. It had the third best opening day ever here after Sultan and Sanju. The business from the five markets of United Kingdom, US / Canada, United Kingdom, Australia and Pakistan will be around $4 million and $750k-$1M should come from the rest of the world.
It is the fifth best opener of the year but Shahrukh Khan is the biggest star Overseas (excluding Far East) and it should be doing much better. Dilwale had clocked $8 million a few years back on Xmas and even Jab Harry met Sejal crossed $6 million last year. Padmaavat is the top opener of 2018 and it is also the all time top opener. The top ten openings overseas in 2018 are as follows.
“..but Shahrukh Khan is the biggest star Overseas (excluding Far East) ..”
And the never-ending BOI charade continues…
So exclude Far East, but fail to mention that the “Far East” beats the rest of the world combined, by a ratio of at least 3 to 1. Which then begs the question, how does SRK become the biggest? Why even segregate this truncated Overseas market??
#KGF goes from strength to strength… Picks up momentum over the weekend… Fri 2.10 cr, Sat 3 cr, Sun 4.10 cr. Total: ₹ 9.20 cr. India biz. Note: HINDI version.
Zero Gets 100 Cr Plus Worldwide In Three Days
Monday 24 December 2018 10.45 IST
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Zero crossed the 100 crore mark worldwide in three days and was the sixth best worldwide opener of 2018 but that is below the mark. The collections are below the mark in India and Overseas. It released before the holiday period and genre is not front loaded so 200 crore was probably out of reach but it should have done 175 crore and then have the reports to take advantage of the holiday period.
Sanju is the only film to go over 200 crore worldwide in the first weekend and even that was also non holiday and the genre was also not front loaded but that film had strong momentum pre release with a huge advance and even a couple of songs worked which does not happen with Rajkumar Hirani films. The other films ahead of Zero are Race 3, Thugs Of Hindostan, Padmaavat and Baaghi 2. These six are the only films to go above 100 crore in the first weekend.
The top ten openings worldwide in 2018 are as follows.
Starring superstar Yash & Srinidhi Shetty, KGF got succeed to impress the viewers and gained a solid word of mouth. On Friday, it successfully registered the business of 19.60 crores from 2460 screens nationwide including 2.10 crores from its dubbed Hindi version with 1500 screens.
On Saturday, Prashanth Neel’s directorial witnessed good growth and raked the business of 23.15 crores with 3 crores from the Hindi language. On the next day i.e. Sunday, the film witnessed a further jump and minted the amount of 25.75 crores with 3.90 crores of Hindi version.
With this, the total collection of KGF after the first weekend has become 68.50 crores at the domestic box office including 47 crores from Karnataka (Kannada), 7.25 crores from Andhra Pradesh & Telangana (Telugu), 3.75 crores from Tamil Nadu (Tamil), 1.50 crore from Kerala (Malayalam) & 9 crores from the rest of India (Hindi).
On the other hand, Dhanush & Sai Pallavi starrer the much-awaited Tamil film Maari 2 has got failed to make to the desired impact on viewers. Still, with the support of fans, it opened on a terrific note and did the business of 4.50 crores on Friday from Tamil Nadu.
On Saturday, Balaji Mohan’s directorial the sequel to 2015’s Maari witnessed a drop and grossed 4 crores. While on the next day i.e. Sunday, it collected 4.25 crores and raised the opening weekend total collection to 13.75 crores at the TN box office including around 1.45 crore from Chennai.
#Zero has clearly underperformed… Remained on similar levels over the weekend… No turnaround / big jump in biz… #Christmas holiday [tomorrow] should boost biz… Real test on Wed and Thu… Fri 20.14 cr, Sat 18.22 cr, Sun 20.71 cr. Total: ₹ 59.07 cr. India biz.
I was led to believe that the difference will be more because of ‘unethical’ SRK and red chillies involved.
But looks like they are unethical and “claimant” was looking for unverified entertainment. 🙂
Zeeshan Ayyub To Avoid Big Budget Films For Some Time After Zero Misfires!
“Now, if somebody else has tried something, why are we after his life?,” he questioned
Asked about the problems, he pointed out: “There are many things. I never like my work. I didn’t like my work even in Raanjhanaa. So, I don’t want to give my perspective on the film. If I sit on any film, I will find loopholes. I think Indian films generally don’t work on logic.”
But he shared that, “We missed a bit of Himanshu’s humour in the second half of the film.”
His other release this year, Thugs of Hindostan, also starring Amitabh Bachchan and Aamir Khan, wasn’t a box office winner either.
Now, Zeeshan, who started his Bollywood journey in 2011 with the biographical thriller film No One Killed Jessica, wants to take a break from big budget movies.
“I will avoid very big budget films for some time. The problem is that you don’t have anything at stake when you do these kind of films because most of the critics just talk about the so-called ‘A listers’. So, you don’t get to know about your performance from critics and not too much from the audience.
“I want to do characters which are important to the screenplay. I am also looking forward to doing some web series. Let’s see if things work out. Now, I will explore myself more. I was getting into a ‘secure zone’. My household is running very well now so, I think it’s time to take risks,” added the actor, who will next be seen in Manikarnika: The Queen of Jhansi.
But one thing that worked for Zero is the stardom. With a star-cast consisting of actors that are already flourishing in the industry – Katrina Kaif, Anushka Sharma & the king himself, Shah Rukh, a decent opening was inevitable. The movie collected 20.14 crores on its opening day. As in the case of Simmba, Ranveer Singh undoubtedly is considered as a power- packed performer but when compared with the ‘Khans’ – we’re not sure! Also, it’s just Sara Ali Khan’s second film. So, that’s one thing that might be a drawback for this movie.
No 1: Akshay Kumar – 2.0 is a game changer. His biggest hit 2.0 along with two other success in 2018 (Padman and Gold) is precedented by 6 Hits in last two years. This is very good run. a big hit was needed to break the shackle which 2.0 gave in its Hindi run. All eyes on Kesari if he has to cement his position. His inability to give Big Hits will keep this rank vulnerable.
No 2: Aamir Khan – Dangal released in 2016 and ToH was supposed to be bigger hit. However ToH flopped and this changed the equation for Akshay. With no release in sight, he slides one rank down.
No 3: Salman Khan – A force. Halo is gone post Race 3. Would need a blockbuster to sustain flurry of Akshay’s hits.
No 4: Ranveer Singh / Ranbir Kapoor – Simbaa can pust Ranveer above Ranbir if a Hit.
No 6: Ajay Devgn / Ayushmaan Khurana – Ayushmann is now a star with two superhits – Badhaai Ho and Andhadhun
No 8: Varun / Tiger Shroff – October and Sui Dhaga was average but past films keep it going for Varun. Tiger’s Baaghi 2 is one of the biggest hit.
jay u r missing the point man…..akki was above all no. game man so far…..but now he has humbly agreed to accept the no. 1 position 😉 accept and ack. that from the transcendent-super-star of the milky way man 🙂
I have maintained an unbiased ranking so far. Being a fan of Akshay, i was more strict with him and only when ToH and Race 3 flopped and his 2.0 gave him his career best hit, could he manage No 1 ranking. He has given 8 successes before 2.0 but that was not enough for him because competition were doing better.
A career best doesn’t qualify. It’s like a batsman suddenly scoring a century after so many efforts of getting close and when he hits a career best he is top of ICC rankings! No one will begrudge Akshay if he’s at #3 but if you feel he’s #1 already it’s 1 in a 1000 opinion. His openings don’t suggest it. In fact a bad WOM film like Zero is opening in similar range to 2.0. But Akshay’s record of hits is now clearly giving SRK a run for his money.
Forget Salman or Aamir, they are opening films at another level.
2.0 is not a seminal moment for a star to jump 2 places from 3 to 1 even if 1 and 2 failed. 1 failed for first time in years!
2.0 is a superhit in Hindi or some may call Hit+ depending on the standard. But a game changer in terms of cinema and also a huge leap for Akshay in terms of gross, though it is still not close to the highest.
But the momentum gained and the variety he is bringing changes the game a bit in his favour. If he had only one release with 2.0 and with same result, he would not have become No 1. But a rare movie like Padman and Gold becoming success along with the momentum of 2016-17 helps him.
Again, Akki is on a thin edge here. It’s not an outright No 1 which Aamir or Salman enjoyed over last few years alternately.
As genuine successes go including audience reception, Ayushman has to be top performer of the year (NOT TOP STAR). Biggest star’s overall are still Salman and Aamir. Biggest stars of 2018; 100% Agree with Rahul’s list.
I do agree with the Mr Reliable tag to Akshay. He is reaching a stage where a big flop hasn’t happened for some time. But 2.0 is a difficult film to conclude anything from really. It’s firstly not Akshay’s film. More Shankar and Rajni. But it’s worked in Hindi belt only so Akshay’s performance and visibility can be connected to it’s success here. Everywhere else it’s not done well. So if you take the good only from Hindi belt plus kudos you got to take some of the bad elsewhere. Can’t have your cake and eat it too!
He already shared Day 1. I think something like 47-48Cr. I leave it to him to respond anyway!
And don’t shoot the messenger! I don’t like Kadel but I at least acknowledge he is calling a spade a spade (at this point).
I didn’t write this for example…
‘No unreasonable appreciation of Zero’s numbers were done by Red Chillies and SRK. It was widely forced on our throat by Marcus that this will happen. However he has so far not provided any claims.’
Inflation is inflation whether it is Zimbabwe type inflation or Greek type or China type or US type. It’s all the same. If you want to do the right thing, call them all out, don’t be selective about it!
Firstly when Kadel writes it’s a ‘new trend’…He’s lost the plot already. Overreported numbers have been around for a LONG TIME. No way is TOH one of the first instances. In ANY CASE, BOI shares the same numbers for TOH as YRF! LOL! I don’t even have to say more here! Your venom on TOH can actually be directed at BOI instead of me 😀
The three day weekend of ToH as per Kadel has a difference of a whopping Rs 15 Cr. So a weekend valuation would be needed to dissect the truth, not just day 1.
I was relying on @BoxotopView to provide the centre-wise updates on occupancy but he/she hasn’t updated his twitter account after the 1st day.
Incidentally Bollytrick has also not given any numbers since yesterday. Wonder why!
It’s best to have a python script to scrape the web, especially booking sites, but that may or may not be ethical. So, that’s kind of a a brick-wall for us amateurs.
Understand. The moment you started, you’ve been presented with an obstacle. I actually think publicly displaying your good intentions and prowess here might be a bad call. I would not be surprised if people ‘in the industry’ are worried about you already! Keep a low profile!
I was led to believe a completely different ethics of Aamir Khan’s movie. Saket, you are confirming that Day 1 for ToH was low by 2.5 Cr. This is alarming and Kadel is sating weekend was pushed by 15 Cr? This is quite massive.
Aamir is not producer of TOH. I know you desire to club him in so just do it! None of his productions till date have been questioned or scrutinised like RCE, Filmkraft, SKF etc.
And don’t stop here. Even 2.0 is getting all kinds of variable worldwide figures!
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· Dec 23, 2018
Saw @Zero21Dec and loved the entertainment it brought. I enjoyed myself. Everyone played their parts well. Loved @AnushkaSharma performance because I felt it was a very challenging role and she was outstanding. 👌👌
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So this is the secret of your patience in cricket ground 😂. If you can enjoy this movie, surely you enjoy batting on day 5th pitch😜
Very likely to be at single digits today. First week looks like 75-80Cr. Rest will be 5Cr probably. The producer numbers for 1st weekend are showing better than expected hold for me. Sunday is better than Friday. Even the tweets of Jaiswals and Kadels don’t make sense i.e. manipulating is happening, but how much I have no idea! Because their occupancy reports suggest lower numbers than they are claiming as manipulation. So either their occupancy reports are wrong or they are downplaying the level of manipulation. In other words they might be inflating themselves! So I don’t trust this bs at all. It’s smug traders, calling other kettles black when they themselves maybe doing similar things.
KGF: Huge In Karnataka – Decent In Hindi And Andhra
Monday 24 December 2018 14.00 IST
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KGF has done excellent business in the opening weekend as it runs riot in Karnataka. The weekend collections in the state are only second to Bahubali – The Conclusion. It has also done well in Mumbai and Nizam / Andhra. The collections in Tamil Nadu and Kerala are low. The Hindi version has done decent business over the first weekend thanks to good busines in Mumbai circuit and CP Berar. The trend is also good with solid growth on Saturday and Sunday.
It remains to be seen where the Hindi version goes over the weekdays but it should hold well over the holiday period and the test will be Friday as Simmba will strong in the areas that KGF is doing its best business. .The approx first weekend figures of KGF are as follows.
Nice pictures and thoughts. Stopped going to his blog long back because of the changes in the formats. Happy to go through this. That must be Sholapur blanket. I have around 6 and they last forever. Bachchan forever! Like Sholapur blankets.
Ayushmann Khurrana – Shoojit Sircar out of John Abraham’s football biopic, 1911?
Five years back, 1911 was to be made with Shoojit and John Abraham as co-producers and Ayushmann Khurrana in the lead. Khurrana had even roped in his brother Aparshakti Khurrana (a national-level footballer) to be coached in football.
But now, the long-in-the-pipeline project 1911 has finally been announced. And there is no Ayushmann and no Shoojit in the project. Instead, John will play the lead while his new favourite director Nikkhil Advani who is also directing John in Batla House, will direct the football film.
A pity that the project has slipped out of Shoojit’s hands. A self-confessed football enthusiast he vowed to cast only real-life footballers in the film.
It’s been a strange year. The 3 Khans have faced disasters. Race 3 at 165cr (most probably inflated figures here), TOH at around 140cr and now Zero will struggle to get past 100cr.
On the other hand, the young guns who can throw in a challenge during the next few years, Ranbir, Tiger and Ranveer, have had massive grossers.
Akshay Kumar is the Mr Reliable of this year.
Ayushman Khurana is the underdog who has over-performed massively. Honourable mentions to guys like Kartik Aryan, Vicky Kaushal and Rajkumar Rao there.
Another huge surprise is that John Abraham, the non-actor with a series of flops before this year, ends the year with 2 hits.
If Simba is a massive grosser, then it most probably is Ranveer’s year.
If not, then IMO this may be the current order (for this year only):
1. Ranbir
2. Ranveer
3. Tiger
4. Ayushman Khurana
5. Akshay Kumar
6. John Abraham
7. Ajay Devgan
On what basis is Akshay Mr Reliable in 2018? Padman barely covered costs due to smart economics, Gold was a loser & 2.0 being an extravaganza was barely commission. Mr Reliable!
Just for the shree variety, relevance of the movie Padman and superhit 2.0, and the momentum gained since last 2 years i will have Akshay as No 1.
2. Ranbir gave the biggest hit of the year but lacks the momentum. He basically made himself as top star once again with Sanju. before Sanju, many were doubting.
3. Ayushman and Tiger but will edge to Ayushman for sheer variety and velocity.
4. Ranveer for Padmaavat. Will give him No 2 is Simbaa is a hit. If superhit or above, he will be No 1 for 2018 but not overall as Ranveer did not have a great 2016-17 like Akshay.
Naveen, I didn’t want to get into the 2.0 debate again. But a film sold at less than 80cr and earns 185cr is a solid hit IMO. If it isn’t then, the success of a lot of films need to be re-categorised.
I remember a few people denying the blockbuster status of Ghaijini once due to bizare economics they were trying to apply. I can bet they never applied the same economics again to other films.
I have yet to see any trade specialist call 2.0 in hindi a flop or commission earner anywhere. From BOI to Taran to the likes of Kadel, the figures were in similar range and everyone called it a hit at least.
2.0 is a hit Rahul. Gold and Padman are not but Naveen keeps peddling them as. Call a spade a spade.
2.0 opened to 20Cr. So it’s hardly suggesting Akshay’s a #1 star! THIS IS WHY I CAN’T TAKE NAVEEN SERIOUSLY! It’s not april 1st today!
When we look at economics of these films, then at the time of release it was said that Gold would need around 120cr to break even. It did around 105cr. net (BOI figures) So, it technically is a flop. Anyway, the trending was poor.
Padman was reasonably budgeted. It was said it would be a hit at 90cr. It did around 80cr. Maybe something like average status.
Some folks still call a commission earner, a big scale grand sci fi extravaganza with over 4000 screens and 180 cr collection as Super Hit. 2.0 in Hindi is nothing more than a Semi Hit. Boi is out of its mind. Even Ra.1 had similar footfalls to 2.0 Hindi.
2.0 is a superhit in Hindi or some may call Hit+ depending on the standard. But a game changer in terms of cinema and also a huge leap for Akshay in terms of gross, though it is still not close to the highest.
But the momentum gained and the variety he is bringing changes the game a bit in his favour. If he had only one release with 2.0 and with same result, he would not have become No 1. But a rare movie like Padman and Gold becoming success along with the momentum of 2016-17 helps him to emerge No 1 star for 2018 and also in the overall Ranking which i have given above.
I called him Mr Reliable because he is the only actor who has carried on the momentum gathered during last few years.
The other major stars (the Khans) have delivered flops. And the ones who have delivered blockbusters had lacked consistency before. They need to build on this year.
Game changing cinema? Lol…Baahubali toh ghaas charne gaye hain. 2.0 is described by many as an inferior product to even 2010’s Enthiran. Forget game changing. As for #1 stardom, a guy with nil HGOTY & 1 record opener in 26 years of career cannot be dreamt of being called #1 even by his greatest worshippers like yourself.
Cold hearted truth in black and white. This is a silly debate whether genuinely contrived or not is dependent upon what you think of Naveen in general. Facts are better.
Even a billion releases means little in the debate.
Nishikora will not be considered bigger than Federer if he wins more ranking points in a year. Djokovic and Nadal can be debated with Federer because they win the big ones.
2.0 is like Zverev beating Djokovic in atp final. It’s like a seminal moment for Zverev but the question remains can he do it in a grand slam over 5 sets?
Alia surely is the leader here with Raazi along with Dipika for Padmaavat.
Shraddha actually did not gain much from Stree and i still cannot figure out why?
I would rate Tabu and Neena higher just for 2018 over Anuksha and Shraddha.
1. Alia and Dipika
3. Neena Gupta
4. Tabu
5. Sara Ali Khan
6. Anushka
7. Shraddha
8. Rani Mukherjee
9. Tapsi Pannu
Simbaa hasn’t even released. Naveen I knew from beginning eventually Akshay is #1. You were only waiting for an opportunity. But even here you are misguided. LOL first film of his that got close to 200Cr and you took him to #1! Good one!
How can Akshay Kumar be ranked higher than Aamir or Salman when his biggest hits are unable to outgross their flops? 2.0 being the only exception, thus far.
It’s like saying Aamir had become #1 in 1988 because QSQT was a hit and Shehenshah was average. Even though the latter outgrossed QSQT.
If RR is adjusted for inflation & screen count, lets do the same for HAHK, DDLJ, RH, Border, Gadar, 3I or even KNPH. Lets see where Akshay ranks among them.
No by Naveen’s logic Aamir debuted at #5 in 1988 and Salman at #1 in 89.
It took the most expensive film ever made to gift Akshay his biggest grosser till date. Even here it is lower than 3 Idiots in 2009! Lower than ETT in 2012! CE in 2013! Utter nonsense, not taking the rankings seriously, just ranting like I do with BOI.
Akshay’s tests are in 2019. Big budget films riding on him only. Then we can see what he can do! Beyond that I’ve joked before that it was only a matter of time that Akshay’s #1 by Naveen. But I thought he’d at least wait and not grab the first opportunity…whilst everyone looks at him and goes 🤦♂️
Saket, I have given my reasons above in the overall ranking as well as 2018 only ranking.
If we are starting the criteria for no 1 to have highest grosser or close to it then he is not.
In my criteria, it is not essential but important. Akshay doesn’t have it but have compensated it along with those having biggest grossers slowing down.
It’s a firm #3 at best. You have deserted fandom of Salman and SRK which was only their to poke in noses of Aamir fans to slyly push Akshay to #1 right under our noses. Even Santa is not this generous.
No, you are not. You are mixing subjective opinions about Akshay with Box Office performance. If Box Office numbers are the only criteria, Ranbir and Ranveer will rank higher than Akshay.
Ps. Even Aamir in 06 wasn’t outgrossing opposition but at least in diverse films like MP, RDB and Fanaa he was challenging or breaking opening day records. So it was only a matter of time Ghajini happened.
Akshay’s no closer to the top than in 2007. His last record opener was 2008!
This is self indulgance and we are giving it to much attention and it will give Naveen an ego like SRK. It will eventually end. Kesari won’t open 40Cr+, if it opens 30Cr+ I can listen or read this nonsense!
However as i said, the volume, variety and 2.0’s success breaking his upper ceiling along with the 9 consecutive successes since last 3 years gives him the edge.
Veriety is not the main reason…just mentioning it but ignore if it is looking odd.
I will take your point Saket. Actually Akshay’s No 1 ranking is because of inconsistency of stars who were giving biggest grossers and lesser volume. It is not absolute but relative.
“Akshay’s biggest grossers have not crossed the numbers that ToH & Race 3 have produced this year.”
This will be true for any No 1 star’s movie. His biggest flop will always fetch higher than average hit movies. But then the cost will also be substantially high and so will be the hype.
Factually 2.0 was entrusted with Akshay. Then factually pan India it’s a flop on Akshay’s name. Or the flop is Shankar’s or Rajni’s and the hit only Akshay’s.
Does Amy Jackson debut at #1?
Don’t waste your time Saket. You are way too smart for this. Write some comments on Tummbad etc.
We can handle this nonsense debate. It happens every so often.
I reiterate Naveen’s random love for Salman, SRK is false pretense to antagonise Aamir fans. It’s profanity to just get Akshay to this position. He probably likes Salman and SRK but hates Aamir. So he befriends Salman and SRK fans to just provoke Aamir ones. But the goal is to promote Akshay Kumar!
I know it’s tough to understand but it’s probably true. If something costs way too much, recovery was absolutely difficult here. It’s a financial loss. But in Hindi release it’s a success.
Krish can confirm. I am going on my instincts rather than any verifiable data.
You lie that 2.0 is a flop pan india.2.0 is above average in south.And then someone else lies gold is flop.You should stop lying.I won’t indulge in foolish debates with you.
Akshay’s No 1 rank has to be seen two fold.
His No 1 is not absolute and only because of his Box office. It is just relative. Actually Akshay’s No 1 ranking is largely because of inconsistency of stars who were giving biggest grossers and lesser volume. It is not absolute but relative. hence his rank is unstable and possible temporary.
To get a stable No 1 and unanimous acceptance he has to get absolute and only on his box office. Some like what Aamir and Salman gave and they had solid consistent grossers which defied any competition come what may. Their ranking was in absolute terms.
Now it’s just blabbering to cover up the farce and retort!
Akshay needs 2 solid years of big grossers…big is by definition 250Cr+, I’m not even saying get TZH, PK or Dangal. Just get a freaking 30Cr+ opener and a Padmaavat or Kick or heck even Golmaal Returns. Just get 1 in 2019 and 2020 then Naveen can talk. All his other billion films can even flop.
Ajay Devgnn has TWO 30Cr+ openers and ONE 200Cr+ grosser and is being ignored.
Maybe you don’t know, aamir khan has retired but isn’t saying that.Srk has also most probably retired.So they are outside ranking now.Bharat doesn’t look that good,So going but that Akshay and salman are biggest stars now.Jay shah’s ranking is based on assumptions.
Yes everyone is finished. They made way as soon as Akshay arrived 26 years ago. They woke up on 24.12.18 to all decide together to arrive to the decision to retire collectively and give Akshay his well earnt slot of #1. Bravo bravo! 😀
In Aamir’s case it’s not one flop with TOH that will hurt him. It’s lack of releases after TOH. If his next film releases in 3 or 4 years, then there is a vacuum out there. In Salman’s case, his position may be affected by a couple of under-performers right after Race 3. – Rahul
Jayshah…just to give you a reply in the language you used.
LOL….Why Not Aamir Khan from No 1 to 10. You any way were working hard to keep him intact. One can hardly trust jayshah in such things as he has been playing the agenda for some time making Zero look a bigger flop than ToH etc. 😀
This site is so biased and blind, Salman delivered 2 disasters on holiday with no competition, and Aamir just delivered one of the biggest disasters of all time on the biggest holiday with 3 open weeks. Next Aamir release is prob in 3-4y away, so obviously he is not nr 1 or wont be nr 1 for long.
SRK the less said, the better, this guys last good movie was CDI 2007.
Firstly let your stars do 3-4 movies/y over a period of 10y+, and then lets compare average grossers.
Bollywood makes 95% crap movies, so of course if an actor makes more movies, there is a higher chance of failure, thats common logic. Akshay has a different way, and hes happy
To get the biggest grossers, it has to be an event movie, just like in Hollywood, look at Avengers etc.
A movie about toilet and pads arent gonna do 300+, Gold opened to 25, although it was a bad movie, it still didnt make losses.
2.0 was an event movie, but people suddenly forget it was a long delayed movie and even the trailer wasnt anything special. It opened on a normal weekend and was a dubbed movie which is off-putting for many. It still did well enough.
I dont like all Akshay movies, but he is the only one of the big 5 who constantly tries different genres and takes risks. He really has come a long way from his struggling days and that should be appreciated.
Do the averages and talk. Count Dhobi Ghat and Secret Superstar too. Aamir has delivered 5 All time grossers and Akshay’s streak is considered as more? We are talking box office stars here not ROI or Hit count or frequency or whatever. We all know TOH is a disaster, this disaster outgrossed every Akshay film ever except his highest grosser 2.0 which itself is the most expensive film ever from India.
This is not saying Akshay’s nothing. READ what the discussion is about. Khurana has 2 films of diversity this year, bigger successes ROI wise than Akshay period. Is he bigger than Akshay?
If Akshay had a couple of 25Cr openers and 200Cr+ grossers obviously he is considered due to high volume. But he doesn’t. The fact remains his best total is a total many have reached. He can do 10 films a year – that’s HIS choice and that dilution won’t change the dynamics of biggest star. 10 small hits vs 2 monster hits – is a profitability debate or debate on quality or success rates. Being biggest star is very easy debate. It’s what Shivaay wrote.
First of all, if we count Dhobi ghat and SS and Talash, out of 7 releases this decade, 4 were losses/disasters. Thats really something to be proud of, isnt it 🙂
The rest Dhoom, PK and Dangal, didnt I say that you need event movies to get the big grossers? Out of these, I will give full credit to Aamir only for Dangal. If Hirani can give Ranbir a 350cr+ movie after the latter giving disaster after disaster, then the question is, how much did Aamir really add to PK?
About Khurana, let him do that for a couple of years and then maybe he will be bigger.
Nonsense! How much did Shankar add to 2.0? You are way off here. As you have gone into personal taste of films. Flipping from taste to top grossers to streaks…any debate is possible. Stick to 1 and I will respond in kind otherwise you’re point is a series of points most of which are linked to films or stars you like. Yes I like Aamir and his films too. Shoot me. Ghajini, 3 Idiots, Dhobi Ghat, Talaash, D3, PK, Dangal, SS have amassed 1500 Cr (no inflation taken into account)…thats an average of nearly 190Cr – HIGHER THAN AKSHAY’S HIGHEST GROSSER, so mathematically laws of physics need to be redefined for Akshay to score a higher average. Even here I am doing a disservice by including DG and SS as 2 feature length films of Aamir.
Worldwide gross will ballpark 5,000Cr – an average of 600Cr+. This is a NONSENSE debate.
“First of all, if we count Dhobi ghat and SS and Talash, out of 7 releases this decade, 4 were losses/disasters” – DG : Flop Talaash : Average, D3 : Super Hit, Dangal : Mega Hit, SS : Semi Hit, TOH : Flop. 7 films, 2 flops not 4. Get your facts right. Hirani did 335 with Ranbir because Aamir’s presence elevated Hirani from a LRM Super Hit level to a 3I all time level & then stedied the ship through PK. Precisely why Aamir can deliver a record grosser like Dangal even with a niche film with no masala elements & songs.
You are the one totally missing the point, and I have been writing a clean languague without any insults. Try that. Its truly laughworthy to add the 7-8 last movies of x actor and say its the same irrespective if they came the same year or a period of 10 years. Did Aamir earn these 1500cr during 2 years period?
You cant compare apples to oranges. Why not add last 25 movies of Akshay and Aamir and then say average? I know right, its not fair 😉
Go back to the start and inflation adjust everything as you just changed the terms of the debate again. Going back 25 films for Aamir I’d include 90’s films which is a joke.
Even here consider the washouts of Akshay and you will not WIN. Inflation adjusted or not (I suspect).
If you want to play such a game – go WW and SS alone covers 8 Akshay WW films, Dangal some 15! By the time you finish you’ll realise Akshay will have to work into his 80’s at the current pace!
Basically you want Akshay #1 – I get it. Chalo, I said it. He’s number 1, now go away and torture someone else.
How many blockbusters does Akshay have in 26 years?
The only reason I said 25 movies, is because you counted Aamir last 8 movies and during that period of time Akshay delivered 25movies. My point is you cant compare like that.
Anyways, I know its frustraing being an Aamir fan, he wont be in cinemas for 3-4y, go and take out your frustration somewhere else.
Ok last 25 films from BOI
Aamir – Aatank Hi Aatank (1995) to TOH = 2008Cr.
Akshay – Thank you (2011) to 2.0 = 2139Cr.
So basically you need creativity to win. And the tipping point is 2.0. So 6 weeks ago you had no such debate and 1 film gives you this bragging rights?
That too Aamir has all-time grossers like RH, Ghajini, 3 Idiots, D3, PK and Dangal. Akshay’s got 0.
The list of opening records, Aamir has close to 10, Akshay has 1.
Aamir has 6 HGOTY to Akshay’s 0.
Aamir has 5 HGOAT to 0 for Akshay. Aamir has 4 flops to Akshay’s 8.
What NONSENSE is this?
The only thing you have is frequency. And if you want ratings/quality go to IMDB to get annihilation.
Disingenuous debate as I have to exclude some 23 years of inflation to favour Akshay. And I exclude one film, Akshay’s last 2.0 and Aamir is ahead! Sounds like you wanted 25 films just for this!
Forget overseas as that will just be rubbing it in.
I would surprised if Akshay’s films in total in overseas (100+) earn more than Aamir’s in overseas at total (30+) including or excluding China.
In fact China alone will probably outgross all of Akshay’s earnings overseas.
I think Akshay Kumar, on pure BO record of last couple of years is probably ahead of SRK right now.
SRK may need to completely re-invent himself. The age-old formula is not working for him anymore.
But things may change quickly. Next few years are going to be interesting especially taking into account the way this year panned out.
Aamir and Salman are still way ahead of everyone IMO. In Aamir’s case it’s not one flop with TOH that will hurt him. It’s lack of releases after TOH. If his next film releases in 3 or 4 years, then there is a vacuum out there. In Salman’s case, his position may be affected by a couple of under-performers right after Race 3.
The young guns might jump in if they build on this year instead of doing a Hrithik.
Agree completely. I am not hating on Akshay’s record at all. I’ve said whether is ahead of SRK or not is debatable but he is not close to Salman or Aamir.
Age has caught up already with all 4 of these 50+ dudes. Expecting them to do a Rajnikanth is a bit much, due to various reasons, but chiefly that Bwood audience is far too diverse and deep to be kept captive a la Tamil cinema. IMHO, there are hardly 2-3 yrs left in the tanks of these guys to actually play central characters.
Think of this as a race which all 4, alongwith another 5-6 contemporaries, started 25-30 yrs ago, when each of them was a greenhorn in their low 20s. Out of that batch of the post Bachchan 90s, only these 4 have proven to be a ‘lambi race ka ghoda’. Most all of their contemporaries fell by the wayside, with barring only a Devgan just walking briskly far far behind them. At various stages of this race, a different guy has seemed to be ahead and sprinting. But as the years have progressed, the stark differences in approach/strategy/placement etc have started becoming more distinct.
Back in the NG days, I had once stated that after 3I, AK had pulled even with SRK, and that the days of the lone superstar that rules Bwood are done and dusted. Sallu had not even started his second run yet. So I had not imagined then, that 10 yrs on, we will be looking at not just 2 but actually 4 guys that finish this long race out.
As the finish line nears, IMHO, the relevant debate will be about AK vs SK and their relative positioning in a photo-finish. Whether it be Sallu’s traditional starpower rule vs Aamir’s rule-bending paradigm-shifts. Whether it is desi footfalls vs global game-changing. We could keep debating.
However, the one singular surprise has been Akshay, who for a long while seemed to be destined to fall by the wayside. But who, IMHO, has over the last few years steadied his stride, rejuvenated and surpassed SRK now.
What portends in the next max 2-4 years is anyone’s guess. But, perhaps the more important point is that these 4 guys have actually positioned to FINISH this race. Being the only 4 ghodas that survived this long multi decade marathon, perhaps in their own minds, they already have crossed the finish line, and are reaping the just benefits and deserved rewards, while all the Fans fight it out everywhere.
“In Aamir’s case it’s not one flop with TOH that will hurt him. It’s lack of releases after TOH. If his next film releases in 3 or 4 years, then there is a vacuum out there. In Salman’s case, his position may be affected by a couple of under-performers right after Race 3.’
Friends, mazaa aaya. 4 vs 1. Reminded me of GD days.
Merry Christmas to all. Have fun. And pls ignore anything i said which u did not like. I was setting the game for Santa. He will be bringing cheers now.
A superstar may come once or twice in a year. By the way Aamir usually comes once in a year with some exceptions. And Even srk is doing the same. Salman may follow. The burden and expectations on these 3 are tremedous unlike on an Akshay or Devgn. Their ranking at the top is justified due to this. Among the others only Ranbir carries this burden to some extent. Akshay can be called semi superstar along with Ranveer, Ranbir and Ajay Devgn. They will come next.
I am placing Srk along with Salman and Aamir just for the above reason. Srk might have given flops and underwhelming films but his star power is not defunct or dented much. Raees and DJ are proof.
Mega star Bachchan
Superstars The 3 Khans Most dangerous Zone to be in.
Semi superstars Akshay, Ajay Devgn, Ranbir, Ranveer, Varun in that order. Dangerous Zone to be in.
Tiger, JA, Khurana are at the most stars. No one cares if their films fail.
Bachchan is the only Mega star in Hindi cinema thus far along with Dilip Kumar. The Khans’, Khanna, Dev Anand, Dharmendra etc are Super stars while Sunny, Akshay, Ajay, Hrithik, Anil Kapoor, Vinod Khanna etc are just stars. JA, Tiger etc are not even in the picture for now. They’re just popular personalities among fragments of the audience, not stars by any means.
According to a report published in Peepingmoon, SRK has finally said yes for Don 3. The report suggests, “Farhan (Akhtar) and his team were working on the script of Don 3 for the last one and a half years. They have finally locked the script and believe me; it’s going to be the best of the franchise. Don 3 will have a completely different storyline, unlike Don 2 which was the continuation of the first part.”
SRK will not learn, will he? Instead of trying to re-invent himself, he seems caught in a time warp.
Actors like Salman and Akshay were way behind him 10 years back. When the going got tough, they re-invented themselves. Salman went from comedies and love stories to action films. Akshay went from action films in the 90s to comedies and then to content based social films recently. Even Devgan managed to re-invent himself to survive.
The last Don had a plot even more silly that Race 3’s.
I doubt this story. Farhan and SRK can’t be so friendly considering KGF and Zero clashed. I’m not sure what kind of directors would be interested now.
I would go for a complete debutant who is not interested or a fan of SRK or his history. If you see Big B he has gone with new, fresh ideas a lot in this innings. Ultimately you need a director who can say no! And one who doesn’t mind staying in shabby surroundings and not these expensive lavish ones that Master speaks off.
Celebrating 10 years of Ghajini, the first 100 Cr film. Although I detest this movie personally, there’s no denying that this is a real “gamechanger” in the true sense (unlike some Akshay fanatics on this forum might claim). Must be frustrating being an Akshay fan considering that even 10 years later, 100 Cr is still the success yardstick for most of your idol’s films 😉
Sarcasm apart, I am unable to understand this ranking based on BO results not just by Naveen but by anyone.
Do people go to watch a movie based on its budget? If yes, then no actors who do low budget films should be in the list. Also then the ratings should be based on gross collections irrespective of budget.
Is it based on the movie making profits? Then it should be based on ROI as the hit/ super hit classification seems to be dubious
Is it the opening day figures? Does genre play a factor?
And then there is overseas collections which for a long time was used to prop up SRK’s stardom. Now convieniently it becomes irrelevant
If Aamir had had a release in 2019, it would have been interesting to see how it would have opened.
Opening is a combination of star value, production value, lead actress, director’s image, genre, trailer etc etc. So yes, indeed this star ranking is preposterous. Star power is completely based on movie collections and footfalls (irrespective of budget), that too over a period of at least 10-15 years of work.
Correction : At least 10-15 years of “diverse” work. Not just flogging the dead horse to fill up coffers like SRK’s late 90’s ad early 00’s romance spree or Salman’s recent masala spree (which include remakes and sequels at most times).
TOH and Zero should have swapped dates. Both still would have flopped. But as Zero is a romance film it fits the bill of previous SRK Diwali films and TOH is more fun adventure film that could have been aimed at children over Xmas.
It’s just a few hours only. But would be quite spectacular if TOH took opening slot in China. First ever indian film to open at #1 in any overseas market? That too one of the biggest flops ever? Haha this is hilarious! You can’t script such things!
Saw Badhaai Ho – It is decent one time watch..I think it is really funny till midway..but resolution and second half was very simplistic. I liked the setting of the movie..the characters. I probably needed more drama in second half.
Spacey released a video on YouTube Monday, titled “Let Me Be Frank,” which appeared to criticize the #MeToo movement in a “House of Cards”-inspired monologue as his former character Frank Underwood.
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This must be the Rakesh Sharma movie. It’s good that Siddharth Roy Kapoor and Ronnie Screwvala decided not to loose their 200 crore investment. It’s good for SRK too, he should just do a small <50 crore budget film and release it on a solo non-holiday date. SRK should first work his way to hitting 100 crore, and then soon enough he can break the Akshay barrier of 130 crores.
Strong hearsay- A big film might get shelved after debacle performance of recently released film. Producers are in predicament, not sure about shelling out huge amount on the project.
When Aamir Khan called up Vidhu Vinod Chopra and said ‘Tu meri party mein meri baja raha hai’Entertainment
Updated Dec 24, 2018 | 20:26 IST | Pooja Nayak
Vidhu Vinod Chopra just made a brutally honest confession about the reason behind Aamir Khan and the ‘so-called’ superstars’ box office debacle in 2018
Let’s just say 2018 has been really disappointing for the Khans and with that we are talking about all the three superstars, Shah Rukh Khan, Salman Khan and Aamir Khan. The trio, who until last year were considered as the box office kings, unfortunately couldn’t win over the audience this year. Zero, Race 3, Thugs Of Hindostan all three underperformed while small budget films like Raazi, Stree, Badhai Ho emerged as surprise hits with some amazing performances by Rajkummar Rao, Ayushmann Khurranna, Vicky Kaushal. So does this mean the Khans have lost their magic?
Vidhu Vinod Chopra, who is coming up with a film called Ek Ladki Ko Dekha Toh Aisa Laga starring Anil Kapoor, Sonam Kapoor, Rajkummar Rao, Juhi Chawla, decided to share his point of view on this during a recent media interaction as he said, “The first thing is that the script should be written devoid of big stars. The trouble is that when you start thinking that okay, this is the story I am going to do for this guy, that is when you start making compromises. Which is why I think the disaster is hitting you all in the faces right now because it’s not a script, it becomes a vehicle for a star and when it becomes a vehicle for a star, it ceases to be a script. So write a story and then look at the actor. I didn’t write Ek Ladki Ko Dekha Toh Aisa Laga for Anil Kapoor. I wrote the film and I then said, Anil is the best choice for this role and then I called him. I think all the so-called stars must realise that the script comes first and then comes anything.”
Stating how he had also warned Aamir Khan about the same during Dangal, he added, “I said it at Dangal success party…Someone asked me there sir Aamir No. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 and I was like what 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. It’s because of the script that the film has done well. Even if Hrithik was there in this film, it would have worked well but if made horribly then it wouldn’t work at all. Aamir called me later and he was like yaar ‘tu meri party mein meri baja raha hai’ Now see what happened? Ask him (Aamir) only what happened. So what I said that day was true right?”
“Which is why I think the disaster is hitting you all in the faces right now because it’s not a script, it becomes a vehicle for a star and when it becomes a vehicle for a star, it ceases to be a script. So write a story and then look at the actor. I didn’t write Ek Ladki Ko Dekha Toh Aisa Laga for Anil Kapoor. I wrote the film and I then said, Anil is the best choice for this role and then I called him. I think all the so-called stars must realise that the script comes first and then comes anything.”
Vidhu Vinod Chopra is right but he is seriously delusional about his capabilities. Agar aisa tha to baaki “written” picturein teri disaster kyu hai be bsdk?
He is full of himself. But he isn’t a bad filmmaker. Not commercially successful, too Hollywood-y for his own good, thinks he is Coppola’s soul brother or something, but not bad as a filmmaker.
He has made some good films that could stand on their own.
It’s shaping up to be a pretty bleak holiday season for Steve Carell and Robert Zemeckis after “Welcome to Marwen” flopped last weekend in spectacular fashion. The $40 million drama about a man’s attempts to overcome his PTSD is one of the biggest bombs of the year, debuting to a disastrous $2.4 million from 1,191 theaters. It stands to lose between $45 million to $50 million when marketing and distribution costs are taken into account, according to rival studio executives, an embarrassing result for both Carell and Zemeckis.
The long Christmas weekend is underway with Aquaman, Warner Bros.’s latest entry into their DC Extended Universe, topping the charts, on its way to a $100+ million five-day opening. Meanwhile, Disney’s Mary Poppins Returns and Paramount’s Bumblebee finished in runner-up positions over a weekend that played relatively similarly to the same weekend last year, though given the holiday timing its hard to make an apples-to-apples comparison.
Performing almost exactly as expected, WB’s release of Aquaman easily took the #1 spot at the weekend box office with an estimated $67.4 million over the course of the three-day weekend and a cume that now stands at $72.1 million once you include the $4.7 million in grosses from pre-weekend Amazon Prime showings. The film is now expected to deliver around $105 million over the course of its first five days, which ends on Christmas Day, routinely the busiest day at the box office all year. The film received an “A-” CinemaScore from opening day audiences and played to an opening weekend crowd that was 55% male and 58% aged 25 years or older.
Overall, the performance ranks as one of the top ten December openings of all-time, though it is sixth largest debut within WB’s DC Extended Universe. That last note, however, will be an interesting stat to watch as Aquaman has enjoyed some of the best reviews of the franchise and audiences seem to be enjoying it to the tune of an 86% audience rating on RottenTomatoes.
Zero is looking at a reasonable Monday with collections in the 9-10 crore nett range on Monday. It will be a 45-50% drop which is a little high for a film which under performed over the weekend but then it could have been much worse for a film which did not really trend over the weekend. There was also the factor of the holiday on Tuesday helping the film in the evening.
Surprisingly its still UP and Bihar holding best. Some centers in these parts only dropped 30% from the first day and you probably have to go back to Hum Tumhare Hain Sanam in 2002 when a Shahrukh Khan film out performed in these parts compared to the metros. Even the single screens are holding well across UP and Bihar. The collections are also held better in Delhi NCR and big cities of East Punjab.
The total collections of the film so far are in the 64 crore nett range and there should be jump on Wednesday due to the holiday but as film has not been really been accepted it will not be that big 60-70% jump which can happen for a film which is not doing huge collections.
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“Whacky has different meanings to different people. But for viewings, the writing has to be”
Agree. But one thing is certain. What is wacky or whacky is not generic. But generic becomes Meta when the reviewer wants to do so. As is happening with Zero with some viewers and reviewers. Some are finding it Meta and some are finding it too generic. Srk in a lovestory is the most generic thing one can think of. But some are finding it Meta allover.
Meta is in the minds of the viewer just like beauty is in the eyes of the beholder.
Actually for whacky stuff we will never know for certain what meta the writer intended. We will individually interpret it as ‘di-verse’ based on our own preferences, bias and self interest. But our ancient texts insists on ‘multi-verse’ existence, but hey whats the scientific proof?
Take the example of a tree. For ordinary souls it is just a tree. But for some it is not the tree but it is the roots that are interesting. For that you have to study botany. A tree is too generic and it is the roots that make the tree interesting. A tree maybe short or tall but it does not matter. Without roots the tree will not be there. Without the womb there wont be living being.
Take a tic tic clock. It has meanings. For many, it just reminds them what to do at what time. But to those who are on death bed or about to be hanged and know about their impending fate, the clock looks like Yamraj impatiently waiting to get them. And for students writing an exam, the clock ticking away is like making their hand race with their minds. For philosophers, it denotes so many things. Clock is time. The B-theory of time is the name given to one of two positions regarding philosophy of time. B theorists argue that the flow of time is an illusion. The past, present and future are equally real, and that time is tenseless. This would mean that temporal becoming is not an objective feature of reality.
Clock can break down but time will not.
That is an apt philosophical meta for an often used tree data structure in software.
Let me give another one. Every moment we live, r-values are continuously created on-the-fly and getting lost in the time-space warp. A coder has created a reference variable to capture one such r-value. But he cant assign r-values to normal reference variables. So he creates a constant reference that can ‘refer’ to the r-value. BUT to the reader, there is no constant reference due to ‘di-versity’ principle. So, he/she needs to create a non-constant reference variable that serves as an alias to the constant reference that the writer had created. What it implies, is that the reader is not capturing the r-value anymore, but the writer’s l-value.
All this can get v confusing and create controversies. But thats why its whacky in the first place!
Just think about it – variables (named locations), references (aliases), pointers (address locations) and namespaces along with scope resolution operator.
What is memory mangement in coding except for it all being ‘meta’?
Discussions of the nature of time, and of various issues related to time, have always featured prominently in philosophy, but they have been especially important since the beginning of the 20th Century. This article contains a brief overview of some of the main topics in the philosophy of time — Fatalism; Reductionism and Platonism with respect to time; the topology of time; McTaggart’s arguments; The A Theory and The B Theory; Presentism, Eternalism, and The Growing Universe Theory; time travel; and the 3D/4D controversy — together with some suggestions for further reading on each topic, and a bibliography.
Note: This entry does not discuss the consciousness, perception, experience, or phenomenology of time. An historical overview and general presentation of the various views is available in the entry on temporal consciousness. Further coverage can be found in the SEP entry on the experience and perception of time. For those interested specifically in phenomenological views, see the entries on Husserl (Section 6), and Heidegger (Section 2: Being and Time).
Consider the question of whether time should be represented by a line without a beginning. Aristotle has argued (roughly) that time cannot have a beginning on the grounds that in order for time to have a beginning, there must be a first moment of time, but that in order to count as a moment of time, that allegedly first moment would have to come between an earlier period of time and a later period of time, which is inconsistent with its being the first moment of time. (Aristotle argues in the same way that time cannot have an end.)
This part of discussion comes under Topology of Time.
Very interesting.
Aside zero being a disaster was good to avoid but cinema buff should see antariksham9000 which was also released last week and with clichés is still a great watch.
Being from North but have to admit after watching this telgu movie its Bollywood that has completely lost it due to these 40plus haggards calling it with fake re_innovation and hardly represent anything indian and hell bent on subversion.
10 Years of Ghajini: Analyzing the marketing strategy of this blockbuster and also celebrating 10 years of 100 Crore Club!
ByFenil SetaDec 25, 2018 – 8:00 am IST
While the final figures are yet to be compiled, ZERO is expected to have grossed approx. 5 mil. USD [Rs. 35.13 cr.] in its opening weekend in the overseas markets. ZERO has emerged as the *fifth highest opening weekend grosser of 2018 in overseas*. It is also Shah Rukh Khan’s *11th highest All Time Opening Weekend overseas grosser*.
Another Khan film underperformed and bit the dust. 2018 will be remembered as the year of Khans demise as star performers. Akshay overperformed the 3 Khans in a year for the first time and young brigade led by Ranbir and Ranveer took the mantle from aging Khans. From now on we may see Khans as one of the many stars competing with one another, the same way Amitabh used to in late 90s. Better they choose roles that suit their age and stature otherwise they will leave a pathetic legacy from 2019.
Speaking about the rumours, Fatima Sana Shaikh recently opened up to Bollywood Hungama. When asked how she deals with the constant link ups with her Dangal co-stars Aamir Khan and Aparshakti Khurrana, Fatima said, “It’s very weird. My mother keeps on watching TV and the other day she showed me ‘Your photo has come’ and I was like ‘Read the headline to know what’s written.’ I used to get disturbed and I felt like I should explain myself. If someone accuses you of something, the first instinct is to come out and tell, ‘Listen, why do you think it is like this?’ If you are an aggressive person, you will attack. If you are a submissive person, even then you will talk about it. But, now, I do not feel the need to explain because I feel no matter what you do, people will talk about you. “Logo ka kaam hai bolna woh bolenge.” No point getting affected by it. People, who write these things, are the people who will meet me nicely. I know it’s their job but I hope they sleep well (laughs).
Fatima Sana Shaikh further talked about how relationship is with the two star even after the speculation around her relationship. She said, “Aparshakti and AK are just too special to me. Why should I get affected by it?”
#KGF continues to trend very, very well… Mon is higher than Fri and similar to Sat… #Christmas holiday today should boost its biz further… Fri 2.10 cr, Sat 3 cr, Sun 4.10 cr, Mon 2.90 cr. Total: ₹ 12.10 cr. India biz. Note: HINDI version.
kgf on kannada , antarakshim in telgu and to a small extent maari(masala) in tamil dominating in week of zero covering indian authentic theme and here we have director who is known for it (small north indian sensibility) for it have been reduced to caricature covering new york
aside in telgu cinema in recent time both goodachari and geetha govindam where extremely good
It’s we stop giving mediocre films their due by discussing their trending and prospects. Even if TOH does All time Blockbuster business in China, fact is it’s an average film which is no great shakes. History isn’t going to remember this film fondly except maybe hundreds of comments on blogs such as these
Tumbbad remains the best Hindi film this year, and I seriously think it should’ve done more. Going by the trend this year, what we’re looking at in future is films such as these making a huge mark in different mediums other than only movie theatres
I”t’s we stop giving mediocre films their due by discussing their trending and prospects. Even if TOH does All time Blockbuster business in China, fact is it’s an average film which is no great shakes. History isn’t going to remember this film fondly except maybe hundreds of comments on blogs such as these.”
That is how bo thread works. Cant help it. Especially when a big star is involved. His is fans and detractors will also be involved.
The fun element will be lost if we discuss only niche films.
As for myself, I am more interested in the fate of Toh in China even if it underperforms there. And then I will be interested in KGF, Manikarnika, Simmba etc.
@Sanjana – When anyone works on a new tech, there are challenges u dont face until u start a beta run in production scale. Scaling wide has its own set of issues, which later helps to make the tech sharper and useful. Feedback loop is essential. So initial ratings dont matter, but number of viewings do. Its like a publicity gimmick itself, but an essential experiment.
You know whats the take-away from Lucider’s pilot episode? Mindspace-Invasion can create films like Bird-Box. Such pseudo-apocalyptic imagination (without any explanation or understanding of the phenomena whatsoever) can hamper ur beta run immensely; making it a failure.
KGF Holds Strongly On Monday
Tuesday 25 December 2018 12.30 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
KGF held up very strongly on monday as it collected 13.75 crore nett on day four across India compared to the 16.50 crore nett on day one. The drop is under 20% and the drop is only in Karnataka where the film had a huge opening.
The hindi version has jumped around 45% from the first day which is a very strong trend especially for this type of film. It is trending like a HIT Hindi content film when it is actually a South action film that too from Kannada film industry which actually have no hope in the Hindi markets. Its not done well across all hindi markets but whatever it has done still ranges from good to decent because in some parts its near impossible to get the audience in for this type of film.
The dubbed films which have done well before did not look like South films which is a huge plus but this film did and has still managed collections. The crucial day for the film will be Friday and if that holds like content films do then this film will do very well.The approx four day figures of KGF are as follows.
Ten years of Ghajini: The film that made an average Indian a number-crunching trade pundit
Remake of a Tamil psychological thriller (itself inspired by Memento), A.R. Murugadoss-directed Ghajini is the inventor of the elusive Rs 100 crore club. It made leading man Aamir Khan a box-office magnet. But does the film hold up well today? A quick glance at its legacy.
Another comparison was if the film departed from Memento (2000), which has acquired a cult following over the years. Explaining Memento’s non-linear, timeline-bursting narrative, filmmaker Christopher Nolan had once said, “We tried to put the audience through the head of the protagonist to experience his uncertainty, confusion and paranoia. He’s an unreliable narrator, so we are seeing the world through the distorted point of view of this one particular person.” Nolan has famously described Memento as “film noir.” On the other hand, Ghajini is a love story gone wrong. It has been whittled down for the Indian taste. Murugadoss spent a lot of time building the romance between Aamir and Asin and the action set pieces instead of focusing on the philosophical and psychological elements that has made Memento a classic of the genre. In other words, Memento (adapted from a short story by Nolan’s brother) was faithful to its concept, Ghajini to Aamir Khan.
Aamir buzzed his hair for the second remake of Nolan’s film as a pub gimmick.
But here is some ‘meta’-notes on the dev of original … from ‘wiki’ (*so it may be an edited article with some convenient modifications from reality*)
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In July 1996, Christopher and Jonathan took a cross-country road trip from Chicago to Los Angeles, as Christopher was relocating his home to the West Coast. During the drive, Jonathan pitched the story for the film, who responded enthusiastically to the idea. After they arrived in Los Angeles, Jonathan left for Washington, D.C., to finish college at Georgetown University. Christopher repeatedly asked Jonathan to send him a first draft, and after a few months, Jonathan complied. Two months later, Christopher came up with the idea to tell the film backwards, and began to work on the screenplay. Jonathan wrote the short story simultaneously, and they continued to correspond, sending each other subsequent revisions of their respective works. Christopher initially wrote the script as a linear story, and then would “go back and reorder it the way it is on screen to check the logic of it.”
Jonathan’s short story, titled Memento “Mori”, is radically different from Christopher’s film, although it maintains the same essential elements. In Jonathan’s version, Leonard is instead named Earl and is a patient at a mental institution. As in the film, his wife was killed by an anonymous man, and during the attack on his wife, Earl lost his ability to create new long-term memories. Like Leonard, Earl leaves notes to himself and has tattoos with information about the killer. However, in the short story, Earl convinces himself through his own written notes to escape the mental institution and murder his wife’s killer. Unlike the film, there is no ambiguity that Earl finds and kills the anonymous man.
In July 1997, Nolan’s (who?) girlfriend Emma Thomas showed his screenplay to Aaron Ryder, an executive for Newmarket Films. Ryder said the script was, “perhaps the most innovative script I had ever seen”, and soon after, it was optioned by Newmarket and given a budget of $4.5 million. Pre-production lasted seven weeks, during which the main shooting location changed from Montreal, Quebec to Los Angeles, California, to create a more realistic and noirish atmosphere for the film.
All in all, one thing to be mentioned above is the fact that this movie could only surpass the collections of Aamir & Salman’s flop movies. The rest are the numbers that the movie failed to collect even on its 2nd day!
Also, for those who consider Secret Superstar as an Aamir Khan film, the movie on its 5th day being Monday (also released on Thursday) made 3.05 crores, and yes, that’s a number that Zero fortunately has surpassed.
Zero dropped under 50% on Monday thanks to the holds in Delhi / UP, East Punjab and Bihar. The drops elsewhere were in the 50-60% range. The Monday collections were in the 9.50 crore nett range which takes the business of the film to 64 crore nett in four days.
The film only dropped 30% in Delhi / UP as it collected 3 crore nett against the 4.20 crore nett on day one. East Punjab and Bihar dropped 40%. But its a different story in Mumbai and South as collections came down 55% and even 60% in some centres. There is the Xmas holiday on Tuesday but it might not grow as it should on a the national holiday as the holiday is more effective in the Mumbai and South while its not so big in UP and Bihar.
The first week may do around 85 crore nett depending on how far it goes on Tuesday. There will be a drop post the Xmas holiday.. The first four day figures for Zero are as follows.
Kedarnath Has Strongest Trend On Third Monday
Tuesday 25 December 2018 13.30 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
Kedarnath had the strongest trend on Monday of all films running as its collections showed growth of 65-70% from its Friday numbers. The film has found appreciation and if the collections dont match the appreciattion its mainly down to a lackluster opening and then an abrupt end to its run due to new Xmas releases. The film dropped only 53% in its second week and it was a universal trend except Nizam / Andhra and even in third week the collections will come despite limited screens.
The film will cross the 65 crore nett mark today and there has been this fiasco with the reviews of Zero but this film shows even a film which is more towards content can still run with negativity from these so called reviewers. The public always has a better judgement and always will as its consolidated.
Rajinikanth’s ‘2.0’ has earned over 100 crore in Hindi, Tamil, and Telugu versions. The movie ‘2.0’ was released in theaters on November 29. In the film 2.0 (Robot 2.0), stars like Rajinikanth, Akshay Kumar, Amy Jackson, Adil Hussain and Sudhanshu Pandey are also in the lead roles. This is Akshay’s first film in South and he is in the role of villain who has made a budget of Rs 500-600 crores. In the film, Rajinikanth is in the role of a scientist and a robot. In the past, trade analyst Ramesh Bala gave an information about the film’s earnings, according to him, ‘2.0’ had earned 188 crores after three weeks.
Officially confirmed. #HeraPheri3 script has been locked. Indra Kumar and a new writer (one of @akshaykumar's friend) have written the script and all the three actors loved it. It will start rolling from mid of next year after Akshay finishes Rohit Shetty's action film. pic.twitter.com/1tEX8wkWuZ
Watched ZERO. What on earth they were smoking when made this film ? Neither like first half nor second. How difficult it is to make a simple film ? Anand tai’s strength is make simple film. What mess they were trying to make here ? All lead actors are bad but Anushka is weakest. If they wanted to make her disabled it is ok but most irritating part is her speech. Kam se kam speech ko clear rehane dete. There are thousand of wheel chair bound people who speak clearly. Finally WTF with this scientist angle ? This mars and all science talk killed the film. Why oh why they took this part in story ? Agar film simple rakhi hoti to kya pata chal jati. Though I didn’t liked any part but my wife and daughter enjoyed before interval part but second part really killed the film as I already said that science part was as boring as Modi’s spee nowadays.
PS- and one more thing about these kadels and rohit jaisawals of the world. The great philosopher Bob cristo once said it is better to have smart enemies then idiot chamchas or stooges. Before release they created false environment that ZERO is going to be a master piece and now they are hell bent to prove this is the biggest disaster in the history of bollywood. Neither are true.
Bob I agree with your last paragraph. The trade and certain clan that SRK has as support is actually harming him for many years. These people are giving him kudos in wrong instances instead of hurting his feelings. A bit of tough love is never harmful.
Did Jay satyam master Z or anjo see the movie..just getting back after holidays and not going to scroll through 3 BO threads..can someone point me to the links of their reviews.
Oh ya just saw it’s a post by itself..will read..guess movie was a goner at the BO on Friday itself..but BRs review was very positive and I was a bit curious to see what others thought of it
I am all alone (poor me) in the White House waiting for the Democrats to come back and make a deal on desperately needed Border Security. At some point the Democrats not wanting to make a deal will cost our Country more money than the Border Wall we are all talking about. Crazy!
At the promotional event of his upcoming film Ek Ladki Ko Dekha Toh Aisa Laga, Rajkummar Rao was asked how he feels about the Khans – Shah Rukh Khan, Salman Khan and Aamir Khan – failing to create magic at the box office. “They are superstars nobody can touch them and there is a reason they are superstars. They are ruling for 30 years. Just because one or two films did not work, I still love them. I have respect for them,” he said.’
“I reiterate Naveen’s random love for Salman, SRK is false pretense to antagonise Aamir fans. It’s profanity to just get Akshay to this position. He probably likes Salman and SRK but hates Aamir. So he befriends Salman and SRK fans to just provoke Aamir ones. But the goal is to promote Akshay Kumar!”
Prediction for Aamir Khan in 2019: Bad decisions leading to sheer waste of massive talent
If Aamir Khan has no release in 2019, he is likely to get knocked out of top 3 by year end. Only way he can survive now is when others fail to deliver. Then status quo remains.
For the sake of his emotional fans, i hope he does a quickie. Wonder why he did not sign any movie this year.
17-Year-Old Girl, Lost In 2013 Kedarnath Floods, Reunites With Family
Chanchal had gone to Kedarnath on a pilgrimage with her parents when the tragedy struck, sweeping away her father, while her mother returned home after sometime.
It’s not getting to any kind of respectability here, unless one classifies 100Cr club as such. This is just suggesting it’s not a total washout performance.
This will endup with same total as Gold.
But difference is huge.
Gold-
2500 screens
Competition from more Commercial looking contender SMJ
Only One Holiday though a national holiday
Recovery – 95 -100 cr
BO – 105 -110 cr
Verdict – Average
Zero-
4300 screens
Solo Release
Festival Period
Recovery- 175-180 cr
BO appr – 110 cr
Verdict – Disaster, 45% investment loss
Still 50% apprx more screen count and almost double distribution cost in more commercial viable project with no competition. And if it still does same. It is huge disaster.
Not sure how 164 mins version looks like, my personal feeling about the 121 mins version is it’s average but watchable. Action scenes one by one, Aamir Khan’s character might surprise Chinese audience(though I personally think it’s just OK) #ThugsofHindostan
Zero will do business in the 12-12.50 crore nett range as per early estimates which is around 30% better than Monday. The growth is less than normal for a national holiday but it is sort of expected as the film did not trend strongly over the weekend and the Monday number was pretty decent considering the weekend so some of the growth was baked into the Monday collection.
Also the best markets are UP and Bihar and Christmas is probably the weakest national holdiay in these parts and they have grown less than places like Bengal and South despite the film being liked best in UP and Bihar. The growth this Christmas day is generally less this year as films like Kedarnath and KGF which are doing much lower numbers and have potential for huge growth are also not showing that huge growth for a national holiday.
The collections of Zero till date are 76-77 crore nett and the big drop will come on Wednesday which will tell where week will end. The five day business is what it should have done over the weekend from that 19 crore nett start.
In share market analysis, we use lot of graphs on a daily basis or hourly basis. Or at the end of its run? Why not for bo performances too? Then comparisons will be much more easier between 2 films.
Looks to follow the same trajectory as Get Out, one of my favourite films from Jordan Peele.
In fact, this kind of horror is the need of the hour. We’ve had too much of cliche-ridden films such as the Conjuring Series and Annabelles of the world.
A part of me was ROTTING Away: Kangana Ranaut
Kangana Ranaut REVEALS WHY she chose to DIRECT portions of Manikarnika…
Monday, December 24, 2018 | 1:29:17 PM IST (+05:30 GMT)
By Bollywood Team
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Manikarnika: The Queen of Jhansi, is one movie that has been in news ever since it was announced. The period film stars Kangana Ranaut in the titular role and it is co-directed by Krish and Kangana, has substantial buzz surrounding its release, thanks to its mammoth scale and a mass-appealing subject.
The trailer of the movie has caught the attention of one and all people cannot stop raving about it.
Another thing that has been the talk of the town is that Kangana Ranaut has donned on the hat of co-director with this movie.
Kangana is one of the few actresses that we have in Bollywood that have carried the weight of the entire movie on her shoulders and emerged victoriously.
Her performance in movies such as Fashion, Queen and Tanu Weds Manu franchise has won her many accolades.
Talking about her experience as a director, Kangana says, “I always wanted to direct films. These days, you generally hear of directors wanting to be actors, and not the other way around. Even those actors who direct don’t really do it full-time.
They feel that they have got a certain amount of acclaim and popularity as actors, so why should they give that up and only direct films. It may sound strange, but I have never really identified with being an actress. It’s not my calling, direction is.”
She went on to elaborate on how comfortable she felt being a director, “It’s actually surprising even to me how comfortable I feel being a director on set, even when I am sweating buckets and am surrounded by 500 people and everyone’s screaming at the same time!
There’s something about directing a film that’s so gratifying, even though it’s a worker’s life. An actor is just one part of the whole orchestra of filmmaking and it kind of makes me feel inadequate, that I am not doing enough as a creative person”.
“It’s not that I don’t want to act in films with other directors I am doing Ashwiny’s (Iyer Tiwari) Panga and Prakash’s film (Kovelamudi, called Mental Hai Kya) right now. I like acting, but I always felt a part of me was dying somewhere because I wasn’t being utilized totally.
I felt like a part of me was rotting away because I wasn’t being able to express myself as a director. When I was just an actor on this film, I didn’t know what was happening with the rest of the film and it was frustrating.
A lot of mishaps happened on set I injured myself several times, I broke my forehead and I was worried about how I would take this forward as an actor. But when I got down to directing, there was no pressure there were only goals. For me, the director is the hero of a film and directing is my first love,” she added.
Kangana also mentioned that being just an actor in a movie is a relief as it is a small part of a huge canvas. She says, “Honestly, it’s actually a relief to just be an actor to be a small part of a huge canvas. Acting, for me, is actually like a holiday (laughs). I can sit prettily in my van and go out only when I am called for my shot, I don’t have to bother about anything else. When I was shooting Panga, I was so busy with the VFX of Manikarnika that I was constantly Facetiming with my team. Imagine how overrated actors are! I could actually do a full-fledged role as an actor and I had so much time that I did the entire VFX work of an epic film alongside!”
She added, “And yet, actors behave like they are carrying the burden of the world on their shoulders so, so overrated. Acting involves doing absolutely nothing and that kind of superficial involvement always hurt me.
I don’t come from a film family and I don’t have a platform set out for me where I can stand and make tall announcements like, ‘I want to be a director’. It’s happened organically. I still ask Prasoon Sir that what made him think I could direct when even I didn’t know I could do it.
Being an actor doesn’t interfere with what I want to do as a director and vice-versa. As an actor, I am happy to be a part of someone else’s vision. If you ask me whether the films I am doing as an actor stimulate me as a director, then the answer would be, ‘Not at all’.
What Ashwiny is doing with Panga is a reflection of who she is as a mother and a wife. I don’t know that world because I am not married and I don’t have children-related issues (smiles). Mental Hai Kya is a thriller, it’s a mad ride and as a director, thriller as a genre doesn’t excite me. But to be part of it as an actor is so gratifying”.
These hypocrites have retweeted the bad reviews of #ThugsOfHindostan & #Race3 in bulk, enjoyed it like anything. Us waqt critics honest the par jab #Zero pe baat aayi toh critics ne paise liye hai. Wah bahut khub.
Rajkummar Rao, Boman Irani and Mouni Roy… #MadeInChina gets a new release date: 30 Aug 2019… Directed by Mikhil Musale… Produced by Dinesh Vijan… The producer had released #Stree on 31 Aug 2018.
#Zero witnessed growth on Day 5 [#Christmas]… Day 6 [Wed] and Day 7 [Thu] biz crucial… Fri 20.14 cr, Sat 18.22 cr, Sun 20.71 cr, Mon 9.50 cr, Tue 12.75 cr. Total: ₹ 81.32 cr. India biz.
She is well-adjusted to the shifting dynamics of commercial Hindi cinema. “It’s okay if I am not there in Simmba as much as I was in Kedarnath. It’s okay if I don’t have that big role. Being a part of a Rohit Shetty film is as much a high for me as being a central character in Kedarnath. When I signed Simmba, I was very aware of my role. One needs to know why one is doing what one is doing. I did Simmba with my eyes open. I am thrilled to be part of it. I aspire to do all genres of cinema.”
Displaying wisdom far beyond her years, Sara says, “An actor does every film in the hope of success and in the hope of learning something new. I’ve learnt a lot from working in both Kedarnath and Simmba.”
What would your third film be? “Something that challenges and excites me. Right now, I am promoting Kedarnath and Simmba. I am scared when this ends there will be a void in my life. I can’t wait to get into another project.”
In Kannada filmmaker Mansore’s December 28 release Nathicharami (A promise to stand by), Sruthi Hariharan plays Gowri, a young woman who is trying to come to terms with her husband’s sudden death. If there is immense grief on one side, there’s also the looming question of what next. A friend suggests another marriage but Gowri is clear that she wants neither companionship nor love. But what about a woman’s physical desires, Gowri asks aloud in the trailer of the film. Also starring Sanchari Vijay and Sharanya, the film was premiered at the Mumbai Film Festival in October. This is Hariharan’s fourth film in 2018 after Humble Politician Nograj, Bhootayyana Mommaga Ayyu and Ambi Ning Vayasaaytho.
The year also saw Hariharan accuse actor Arjun Sarja of sexually harassing her on the sets of the 2017 Nibunan. Sarja has denied the allegations, and has sued Hariharan for defamation and embezzlement.
@Sanjana – Will appreciate if you can shift focus from zero bo to whats happening all around the world when it comes to box office stuff. Its more happening and interesting for those not so invested in Zero.
#KGF continues its upward trend… Day 5 [#Christmas] is bigger than Day 1, Day 2, Day 3 and Day 4, which is a rarity… Fri 2.10 cr, Sat 3 cr, Sun 4.10 cr, Mon 2.90 cr, Tue 4.35 cr. Total: ₹ 16.45 cr. India biz. Note: HINDI version.
Priyanka, who is spending Christmas with her family in London, on Tuesday took to Instagram to share The Simpsons renditions by illustrators Stefano Monda and Rino Russo.
The collections of the film across India in all formats are 84 crore nett in five days and it will cruise past 100 crore nett in the first week. It is mainly due to the local market of the film in Karnataka which has grossed 60 crore nett in five days. Bahubali 2 is the only film to 100 crore nett in Karnataka and this film could beat the figures of Bahubali – The Conclusion as Christmas period is huge in Bangalore.
Prediction for Aamir Khan in 2019: Bad decisions leading to sheer waste of massive talent
If Aamir Khan has no release in 2019, he is likely to get knocked out of top 3 by year end. Only way he can survive now is when others fail to deliver. Then status quo remains.
For the sake of his emotional fans, i hope he does a quickie. Wonder why he did not sign any movie this year.
Prediction for Salman Khan in 2019: Bharat has to be a HIT
If Bharat is a HIT, then Salman Khan will still remain among the top stars performers. If superhit, he will again be No 1. An Eid release is usually a guaranteed hit for him but Race 3, which released on Eid, sent shock waves. There are no other projects at the moments which is on floors.
Of the three dialogues, two are related to Thackeray’s reference to South Indians and Babri Masjid. But setting the stage for a faceoff, Raut has declared that he won’t make any changes or cuts to the movie.
“Just like Balasaheb was controversial, but his thoughts gave direction to the country, the movie on Balasaheb too will be like that. We will show what he was like. This is not a love story. There will be no cuts or changes,” he told News18.
Thackeray, who was known for his highly provocative and controversial statements, had targeted South Indians in the late 1960s, accusing them of snatching away jobs from the Maharashtra youth. Prasoon Joshi-led CBFC has objected to its reference in the film.
I will be updating this for all the major stars one at a time, adding for SRK now
Prediction for Aamir Khan in 2019: Bad decision of slowing down leading to sheer waste of massive talent
If Aamir Khan has no release in 2019, he is likely to get knocked out of top 3 by year end. Only way he can survive now is when others fail to deliver. Then status quo remains.
I hope he does a quickie. Wonder why he did not sign any movie this year. What the hell???? And his fans here come after me if his ranks are lowered as if I am responsible for his no show.
Prediction for Salman Khan in 2019: Bharat has to be a HIT
If Bharat is a HIT, then Salman Khan will still remain among the top stars performers. If superhit, he will again be No 1. An Eid release is usually a guaranteed hit for him but Race 3, which released on Eid, sent shock waves. There are no other projects at the moments which is on floors
Prediction for SRK in 2019: Lack of movies makes no sense
SRK may be going thru a bad phase but he has seen worse and he should know that the only way to outperform is to first perform. Where are his movies? Pre-producting for his next, Salute has not even started. For god sake and for his fans..what is going on????
The actress #SanaShaikh has been accused of having an affair with #AamirKhan for quite some time now, with various Indian publications reporting that the two have been dating.https://t.co/PKi8nqkYCr
Seriously — this is the most mischievous version of an innocuous interview bit. Not surprised by the mischief.
Faridoon Shahryar of Bollywood Hungama had a longish interview chat with Fatima; and here is a minute plus, under two minutes actually, query and response about How Fatima dealt with link ups.
Delhi from 1950s to be recreated in Mumbai for Salman Khan – Katrina Kaif starrer Bharat
ByBollywood Hungama News NetworkDec 26, 2018 – 3:24 pm IST
The last schedule of Bharat will begin in January which will be dedicated to the climax scenes. As per reports, three different sets have been set up at Josh Maidan 1 and 2 and open ground at Film City. The expensive sets have been recreated by Acropolis’ Rajnish Hedao over the course of three months. Besides the intense action packed climax scenes, a crucial dramatic sequence between Katrina and Salman will also be filmed during the course of last schedule. As the script demanded Old Delhi, so makers decided to recreate it.
I guess its poetic justice in a way… for the last 20 yrs, been hearing SRK fans diss Aamir as dwarf, butka, bauna, dhai-fut etc etc…only to see him rise to greater heights.
Yeh dekh ke shaayad SRK ko laga ki kyun na bauna ban kar try maar lete hain..lekin picture phir bhi flop hi rahi.
So all 3 Khans flopped this year. When was the last time that happened??
Anyways, I think Aamir is heading towards boredom (or may be his interest has shifted somewhere else). These days he isn’t looking interested in anything related to working in movies, SRK’s force has been exhausted since a long time and with every release he keeps confirming, Salman enjoyed a phase where he can stand in front of camera and be himself and that would do great, but don’t think that’s gonna work now. So may be what looked unlikely in near future couple of years ago has happened. The Khan rule is heading towards end. We are back to early 90s. The throne is finally slipping with lot of old and new contenders. Bollywood now awaits a brand new success story or in case of Khans it’s stories.
At least Aamir is doing one good thing, other than films. He is seriously involved in the re-greening of rural Maharashtra. I have been following his Paani Foundation efforts through the past three- four years. Last year, the rains were insufficient in Maharashtra, and yet villages that received some rain benefited, if rainwater work had been done. I understand that the foundation is also looking at enriching soil quality. It is a limited five year program, so I guess they want to do maximum work possible.
I am a benficiary of Chennai’s rain water harvesting efforts, some 15 years back, courtesy then CM Jayalalitha. From around 2004-5, Chennai’s water woes ended for many citizens. Will ever be grateful to Jayalalitha for having made rainwater harvesting mandatory — if you did not do it, you sewer line connection would be shut. Nothing works like a threat.
Back to single figure as it could be 5 to 6 Crores on Wednesday, which means 80 to 87 total so far depending on who you trust!! It could be down to 4 on Thursday ending its first week 84 at the lower end & 90 at the upper end, which means it would just touch 100 Crores or thereabouts ending just 5 to 7 Crores ahead of Talaash back in 2012 with thrice the budget!! 3rd disaster for Shahrukh in his last 5 movies and here overseas is also a damp-squib which is unusual as this is his ‘genre’ which has been working for so long in the overseas!! Still excuses galore from Shahrukh fan(atics) for it & trying to club Salman and Aamir together in this phase as if they were giving the same leniency to them when he was at the top!! One question to all 3 of them is why can’t they work on some small budget movies in between big ones as that would take a lot of pressure off them in terms of recovery and also could provide them with an array of creative choices to choose from. Going small is one of the ways to elongate their career as their recent failures have been more on the budget front than the reception their movies have been given at the box-office.
As an Aamir fan, I seriously want Aamir to do a small quick film. Or even another Talaash meaning a medium sized quickie. In China through past week, Aamir has been telling interviewers that he would be interested in a Chinese film, if the right script came his way. But he adds that would require three to six months to get the Chinese dialogues correct. Which rules out a 2019 release. 😐
Somebody, anybody, make this message reach Aamir — we want a good small Hindi film from you before 2019 ends. And Mahabharat can wait. Do your wife’s film, anything else….but get productive fast. We are all growing older.
I remember a period after Lagaan Oscar run, when aamir stayed put in US trying to get an English movie happen. Nothing came of it, except that he wasted prime time after his best year. Hope this is not a repitition of that episode.
But why wud ppl want to make movies in china of all the places? You cant even look as one of them!
Aamir went there to promote Lagaan for Oscars which itself is a grueling exercise, so had to ‘stay put’ in US, but never have i heard or read any ‘insider’ information like yours hinting Aamir’s ‘Hollywood ambitions’ being the reason for not signing a movie after DCH & Lagaan in 2001!! It is a well known fact that he was going through a rough phase in his married life which finally ended in a divorce in 2002, so he didn’t sign any movie even after he had finished shooting for Lagaan & DCH in 2001 & the whole Oscar thing happened in 2002 which didn’t take more than 2 to 3 months of his time during which he might have discussed and interacted with the film studios, the producers & the directors about the prospects and possibilities if any, but that was never the prime reason behind the hiatus he took between 2001 & 2005.
From what i understand, Gavin is saying this local production will open big and fizzle out due to wrong marketing strategy. Yet its likely to eat up screens and hurt TOH’s prospects (if any) in China. But he has also increased TOH’s predicted opening numbers. Moreover, he is saying the future of indian films in China depends on how TOH performs there. So it all implies average outcome for indian films in future in chinese market along with a possible outcome of local production to make an opening splash despite being a niche film?
China is always so interesting. What does it all mean? I think for indian films in china, releasing a film itself is a problem for lot of factors.
From what i understand of chinese market, either go realistic like Aamir did in Dangal (they call him ‘Uncle’ with belly and white hairs) or just go all out vfx like hollywood does. They also like action heroine oriented films, where hollywood always takes the lead.
Imagine PK getting pitched as a love story? Did the alien come to earth to fall in love and stay? Was that not Hirani’s ploy to deviate the controversies due to all the anti-religious jokes he cracked and made everyone laugh?
Yet was it really a film about ‘atheism’ or a rant against all religions?
The climax revealed his true intentions – PK was upset that his key to go back home was being held up as a religious talisman by one Guru (who turned out to not believe in what he was preaching). THAT was the main conflict of the film. He just wanted to go back. Was he against any religion, religious leaders or those who follow religion ??
He insisted religion is necessary to live life. He was also not crucifying all religious leaders under one broad stroke. He had issue with one guy who withheld his key.
Hirani made a film about how a necessary system can end up victimizing anyone who is not well versed about how it all works – an outsider. Interstellar was about us visiting different new worlds. Hirani’s film was about one world, while Nolan wanted to explore an unknown uni-verse. Not many consider Interstellar as his best, while i personally adored the father-daughter bondage that emotionally held the movie together IMO.
Makers want it to work well in both japan and US. It will open first in China as they like animations (check out the run of a 30 yr old animation film released recently there). Its delayed twice already (summer to winter to now spring). ToH, ABA – it will get interesting to look at the china market for those interested.
Zero had a big drop in business on Wednesday as it collected 4.5-5 crore nett which is around 50% lower than the Monday collection. The drop was always likely to come and it seals the fate of the film. The total collections of the film are now in the 80-81 crore nett range and it will do a first week collection of 85 crore nett.
This is lower than what Ra.One did on Diwali 2011 which managed 90 crore nett and Zero has come seven years later with more screens an higher ticket rates. The ticket rates were dropped on Wednesday at multiplexes after being held on Monday and Tuesday due to the holiday period..
The film is still best in UP and Bihar but collections have dropped there also on Wednesday. The only thing that remains now is to see whether the film can go over 100 crore nett and the business on Friday will tell that.
I sincerely believe Aamir played his part in ghost-directing DG.
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“When I sign a film, I first look at the screenplay or script … Actors and technicians are all part of the film, but it all starts with the writer. The writer is the origin and the most important aspect of making a film,” Aamir said in a statement.
So, while sharing what he expects of future writers, he said, “We are looking for someone with a different imagination and scenario or scenario that we come across, where the characters have been well written, the premise and the purpose is clear and where the whole trip is very entertaining and engaging. This is what we are looking for in a good scenario.”
The Cinestaan India Storytelling Contest is launched by Cinestaan Digital Pvt. Ltd.
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I am sure that all the aspirants created havoc everywhere.
If something cant get the desired results, then isnt the aaproach wrong in the first place ??? I am not debating on whether those results are needed or not. But in this way? Please!
I can speak only about showbiz. The result is that they are more careful. No movement can sustain for a long time. People get tired. Only the stakeholders should pursue the matter once the public support is muted.
The approach was by one woman and even she did not expect that it will snowball into a big movement.
Atleast bollywood has seen some changes. Something is better than nothing.
The above story and the Pink film.
If the accused in the Pink film had committed suicide? The film maker should explore the possibilities. Maybe Pink 2.
If someone commits suicide, it is a very sad thing. These matters should be kept confidential and the concerned employee should get a warning first. If it is publicized, they will feel humiliated. Some time back I read a story about a senior employee who was arrested for taking huge bribes. After CBI questioned his family, the mother and daughter committed suicide due to shame or harassment. And also the son.Then the accused who was home after bail also committed suicide. Entire family wiped out due to one man’s crime or mistake.
When parents scold children for lowgrades or deny them a smart phone or bike, children commit suicide. Students commit suicide when they are caught for copying or if the teacher is strict with them.
So these suicides should be taken as a bigger picture. Why they are happening and who is actually responsible for them?
The media is mainly responsible for highlighting them for sensationalising.
Naming and shaming is not such a good idea. It can backfire.
Zero Drops On Wednesday
Thursday 27 December 2018 01.30 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
Zero had a big drop in business on Wednesday as it collected 4.5-5 crore nett which is around 50% lower than the Monday collection. The drop was always likely to come and it seals the fate of the film. The total collections of the film are now in the 80-81 crore nett range and it will do a first week collection of 85 crore nett.
This is lower than what Ra.One did on Diwali 2011 which managed 90 crore nett and Zero has come seven years later with more screens an higher ticket rates. The ticket rates were dropped on Wednesday at multiplexes after being held on Monday and Tuesday due to the holiday period..
The film is still best in UP and Bihar but collections have dropped there also on Wednesday. The only thing that remains now is to see whether the film can go over 100 crore nett and the business on Friday will tell that.
Zero can also be a Use case of Holiday period playing such an important role. A difference of 15 Cr for Zero which is having mixed WoM could easily have been a swing of upto 40-50 Cr with a positive WoM due to holiday factor.
BOI: KGF Hindi is a HIT in Mumbai with business of 9 crore nett till date. Despite Simmba coming on Friday the film will manage to have good screen time in the circuit as it is holding good occupancy. North has low occupancy but it is holding at low levels.
Friday – 2,00,00,000 apprx
Saturday – 3,00,00,000 apprx
Sunday – 4,00,00,000 apprx
Monday – 3,00,00,000 apprx
Tuesday – 4,25,00,000 apprx
TOTAL – 16,25,00,000 apprx
The collections of the film across India in all formats are 84 crore nett in five days and it will cruise past 100 crore nett in the first week. It is mainly due to the local market of the film in Karnataka which has grossed 60 crore nett in five days. Bahubali 2 is the only film to 100 crore nett in Karnataka and this film could beat the figures of Bahubali – The Conclusion as Christmas period is huge in Bangalore.
Lessons of Life : I am completely dyslexic and have intense ADD. I don’t know what else! Thank God there were no special schools for kids like me when I was growing up. They would have beaten out all the rebellion in me. Certainly would not have made any films. Or been creative.
No preview response posted for Chinese cut? Its Dec 28 release! Today is 27th.
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Aamir Khan’s ‘Thugs of Hindostan’ set for release in China
Celebrated Indian actor Aamir Khan’s new film “Thugs of Hindostan” is set to be released in China on December 28.
Directed by Vijay Krishna Acharya and produced by Yash Raj Films, the production of the adventure film “Thugs of Hindostan” has cost about 300 million yuan ($43.5 million). Till late November, in return, it grossed about $40 million in box office.
Before its release in China, starting from December 16, the leading actor Aamir have finished a 10-day tour to attend a series of promotional events in eight major cities in China, including Sanya, Guangzhou, Xi’an, Nanjing, Chengdu, Wuhan, Shanghai, and Beijing.
The review of the film, however, seems to come out critically. Its Average Rating on the Rotten Tomatoes is only a little over 4 out of 10, and many critics offered negative comments.
What raised the expectations of Chinese fans is that the film to be released two days later is a unique version edited by Aamir Khan himself. Catering to the Chinese audience’s taste, this version removes some slow-motion action scenes and local Indian slangs, while adding some background stories. This version will be more compact, intense, and easier to understand.
The film also keeps many songs and dance numbers to match the festive ambiance.
Khan enjoys great popularity in China. His previous works feature the comedy-drama being a satire about the Indian education system, 3 idiots (2009), the biopic film to reflect the potential and growth of girls from India’s lower class, Dangal (2016), and the musical drama telling how an ordinary girl realizes the dream of being a singer, Secret Superstar (2017). All of them were global hits and bear high fame among Chinese audience.
The year 2018 marks the 30th anniversary for Khan since he worked as a full-time actor. In “Thugs of Hindostan” he stars as a rogue, Firangi, which some comments said may be the most groundbreaking character in his career. The role he plays mediates between the English colonists and a group of Indian bandits. Being neither honest nor evil, his character presents a varied and mysterious image to the audience.
#KGF shows solid trending… Day 6 is higher than Day 1, which indicates that the positive word of mouth has come into play… Fri 2.10 cr, Sat 3 cr, Sun 4.10 cr, Mon 2.90 cr, Tue 4.35 cr, Wed 2.60 cr. Total: ₹ 19.05 cr. India biz. Note: HINDI version.
In Kapoor and Sons, it was a surprise until one watched the actual movie and also was not the main track of the movie.
I will be very surprised if a) This movie releases without any issue/court cases etc and b) does well
The Indian audiences are not that welcoming when it comes to such issues – they do not want to watch stuff which makes them uncomfortable
Zero Sixth Day Business
Thursday 27 December 2018 13.00 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
Zero took a big hit on day six post the Christmas holiday as it collected 4.50 crore nett apprx. The drop is over 50% from Monday and it means the film will struggle from here on. The total collection of the film is around 80.50 crore nett in six days.
The collections are better in North and Bihar with Delhi / UP collecting 1.25 crore nett which is 27% of the all India business compared to 20% which is teh Delhi / UP average. Thee film has struggled in Mumbai from day one and collections on day six were under 1 crore nett in the circuit when normally the should be 30-40% higher than Delhi / UP.
The film will struggle in its second week as day six is at low levels and it will be Friday which will tell ehere the film is going. The first six day figures for Zero are as follows.
KGF (Hindi) Sustains Very Well Post Big Holiday
Thursday 27 December 2018 13.30 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
The Hindi version of KGF has held very well post the Christmas holiday with collections of 2.50 crore nett. the collections are still higher than the first day by 25%. The trend of this film is very similar to the first Bahubali film at half the level of business with a similar release in terms of screen count. The total so far is 18.75 crore nett and thw week should end at 21 crore nett.
Bahubali – The Beggining broke in the second week across India and that was despite the release of a huge blockbuster like Bajrangi Bhaijaan. The screen count of Bahubali – The Beginning was still okay in Mumbai but was hit badly in many other circuits due to Bajrangi Bhaijaan but it still collected very well.
Obviously KGF (Hindi) is no Bahubali – The Beginning (Hindi) as collections are 50% of that film but if it can continue with the trend of Bahubali – The Beginning over the next ten days or so then it will come out with a very good final total. The approx six day figures of KGF (Hindi) are as follows.
Friday – 2,00,00,000 apprx
Saturday – 3,00,00,000 apprx
Sunday – 4,00,00,000 apprx
Monday – 3,00,00,000 apprx
Tuesday – 4,25,00,000 apprx
Wednesday 2,50,00,000 apprx
TOTAL – 18,75,00,000 apprx
The collections of the film across India in all formats are 92.50 crore nett in six days. The collections in Karnataka are a huge 66.50 crore nett.
This is what happens when someone wants to stand out and be counted as a standalone genius. Not Meta but Mental. Does not know in what context the films are made and for whom. Crying for attention.
“All the intelligent people loved Tumbbad?”
“Haha! I did not. Because I am more intelligent and know it is not upto the mark. And this will make intelligent critics to scratch their heads and feel confused. My wish achieved.”
“You love Sanju and Padmaavat? I wish they failed like Toh and Race 3. But as they were liked by many and disliked by intelligent people, I had to dislike them and reluctantly join some gang instead of standing alone gloriously.”
I want to stand alone and only the tallest stand alone.
the writer is confusing his takeaways from certain films and linking it to good cinema. not that i disagree with his choices, but then he has used the same logic for films he didn’t like.
the list of films he didn’t like is an arrogant and snooty choice! as sanjana said, gives vibes of a pseudo intellectual
“Just when you think you’ve had enough of drama, Shetty pulls the coup of the year with an announcement of the next Singham/Simmba installment and we won’t ruin the surprise for you by revealing who the Khiladi in Khaki is going to be!”
100%
Rohit Shetty could be ideal for Akshay in a cop khiladi genre. Not sure if they would keep the “Khiladi” in the title. Wish they had worked earlier.
Watched Zero couple days ago (thanks to An Jo review). Must say the movie is not bad at all and was great to see SRK in his full energy. Nothing more to say besides what most have already said. I thought the movie was very good to brilliant in some parts until last 30 minutes. Instead of NASA, would have been better if the method to get the love back was in another form (join army, or social works or something else). It would be more believable. Mere Naam Tu songs was amazing on screen. So, three things:
1) I don’t think SRK will be in this biopic of astronaut, zero showed enough of it already.
2) No I have to see TOH because I’m sure, TOH is not as bad as portrayed in social media.
3) Khans in particular will have a very hard time going forward because there is a section who wants them out. Any subpar movies of theirs will not do. I think even a decent movie will get killed via social media.
Watched Andhadhun, absolutely loved the movie. Even the songs were very good.
All 3 need to understand age and do roles that suit them. In theory you can be any age playing Salman’s character in Bajrangi and of course Aamir did Dangal.
When I watched Andhadhun I figured even the cheating policeman could be played by a star actor. Unfortunately such a role just wouldn’t be gobbled up as Ayushman’s is the lead role.
I’d much rather see these 50+ year olds playing that age or older.
The alarm bells and warning signs were present in abundance. So many decently trended stars have fallen by the wayside in the last 2-4 yrs. Saif, HR, AjayD, Siddharth, ArjunK, Emraan, etc. These guys at least delivered one avg grosser a year to keep pushing their carts forward. But they have ground to a halt. The reasons as explained previously were to do with choice of alternate and better entertainment for the paying public. If you make cinema going as expensive as other forms of entertainment, for sure the public will respond in kind. With the onslaught of online streaming, hollywood tentpoles, and even Southern movies, the ROI potential for bwood is rapidly decreasing.
As for the 3 Khans, these Zero, JHMS, Race3, etc etc kinda roles have been easy pickings for SRK/Sallu. Lazily written, with disproportionate reliance on starpower to pull through. Both of them will need to transition over very quickly.
Aamir had already transitioned with Dangal/PK, he just tried to experiment (albeit a very costly one) by going back to what he thought was the easy mainstream picking. He found out the hard way that people who pay don’t care a hoot for starpower anymore.
2018 should sound the final alarm for all, and even Akshay is not too far behind in age to take it casually anymore. However, he seems to have already become the most cautious of all, by doing low to medium budget flicks with good return potential.
I don’t fancy seeing actors or actresses like this. Like a Madhuri comeback now via doing some dhak dhak songs is not good. Sridevi did 2 dignified roles before her death. Big B and Rishi Kapoor do so many roles in last 20 years that are interesting.
I think Salman and SRK especially carry the bigger burden of image, stardom so it might be tougher to let go. Even Dutt found munnabhai late on. They don’t have to be side actors but surely they can do some interesting work still.
Point #3 is just alarmist. There is no backlash from viewers against any of the Khans. Had it been so, ToH would not have broken opening day records.
Also, film critics don’t work under communal lines. The reviews for all 3 films have been terrible, across the board.
It’s just gravely insincere to attribute communal bias against the Khans when they were the top stars for so long, and two of them continue to be, in Bollywood.
The rise of Trump in the US doesn’t make Hollywood communal.
With all due respect, you guys have no idea what you are talking about. The reality is just the opposite of what you claim.
In Bollywood, it’s the right wing supporters who are marginalised. Look at Anupam Kher — his career is finished. No major production house is hiring him.
Look at Vivek Agnihotri. Another done and dusted case.
When people go out and watch movies, they don’t look at someone’s religion. So please stop spreading hate to suit your own narrative.
vivek agnihotri and anupam kher? both are rightwing spokespersons and doing well! They are limiting themselves to that as they have political amibitions obviously..anupam kher was ftii chairman till recently and vivek agnihotri just coined a phrase for the ruling party with his book urban naxal.. another one is ashok pandit.what they are doing is their choice..
but there are others who r trying to keep as low profile in controversial matters and still are always on target..It is a reality.
Just because SRK is giving flops, the religion card has to be brought out, to justify his flops? It’s really pathetic!
This is precisely what Azharuddin did when he was caught in the match fixing scandal. Pulled out the religion card, all the time ignoring the fact that his religion never came in the way of him becoming the Indian cricket team’s captain.
Saket, you are totally right. Indian audiences have supported the careers till date and they have every right to remove that support. To blame it on religion is simply untrue. You only have to see SRK’s career post OSO to know he has been in decline whilst Aamir and Salman went through the best phases in their career – so how can that be? That for 2 it has worked out and 1 not? It’s simply film choices that got them where they are and those choices will continue it or finish it.
social service, army etc wont work imo..and army anywys a dwarf cant go. What was wrong with Nasa, she worked there! and i am only glad if astronaut movie wont happen, it may end up as another swades.
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December 22, 2018 at 4:23 PM
https://boxofficeindia.com/report-details.php?articleid=4547
Zero has struggled to make much of an impact on day two as collections are set to come in the 16-17 crore nett range. There will be a 15% drop from the Friday when the film had to show this much growth to stay in the race despite an under performing day one.
The two day figures will be around 35-36 crore nett which is just not good enough and the writing is on the wall. The film has surprising done best in UP and Bihar which are normally the lesser performers for Shahrukh Khan starrers but it is probably the UP setting helping these parts.
Its another huge blow for the industry just after Thugs of Hindostan and unless a miracle happens for Zero its going to be a bad year for the industry theatrically. The euphoria of the huge extra revenue from digital is a blessing but getting huge crowds into theaters remains the big problem.
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December 22, 2018 at 4:40 PM
These 2 tweets were from April 2016 the man on to something and was correct
Ram Gopal Varma
@RGVzoomin
SRK must learn from mistakes of kamal and not listen to near n dear ones who are stopping him from becoming a Mega Rajnikant.
Ram Gopal Varma
Ram Gopal Varma
@RGVzoomin
Megastar SRK becoming ordinary fan,dwarf etc is as big a same blunder as what Kamal Hasan did to lose his stardom to Rajnikant(Salman Khan)
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December 22, 2018 at 4:48 PM
Don’t think Kamal Haasan ever wanted to become Rajnikant.
And SRK is clearly not attempting anything different, or different enough, to destabilise his connection with his core fan base. To compare him with Kamal is a bit farcical, to be honest.
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December 22, 2018 at 4:53 PM
Saket, to your last posts on the old topic… That’s exactly my problem with him. I feel bored with the same poses and expressions but that’s exactly what brings the fans to him (I think).
I’m more concerned with the question where all his fans are. He always wins when it comes to voting, his fans are everywhere in large numbers. Wouldn’t they also have to appear in large numbers in the cinema? This logic doesn’t open up to me.
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December 22, 2018 at 5:12 PM
I’m his fan but since bad word of mouth I might not watch it
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December 22, 2018 at 5:25 PM
Wouldn’t they also have to appear in large numbers in the cinema? This logic doesn’t open up to me.
I think only his fans show up in the cinema. Not a lot of neutrals, which explains the opening numbers. Online polls, I’m not sure of. There is obviously the possibility of manipulation in online polls.
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December 23, 2018 at 1:07 AM
Thanks for the answers.
So his fans are probably already going to the movies…I always had the feeling that they are much more because they seem to be everywhere! But the neutral mass is missing and that’s his real problem, I understand.
Here in Germany there are felt only SRK fans, in forums etc.. When I ask cinemas if they want to bring another film, the answer comes, it’s only worth it for SRK. But it’s about to change a bit.
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December 23, 2018 at 7:27 AM
His fans (mostly the giggling fangirls of the 90’s generation who gave 2 hoots to content) have had enough of the romantic hero image & had done with it 10 years ago. The problem with being a one dimensional romantic hero is that once you pass the 40’s, you seize to remain a romantic hero anymore & need to innovate & improvise. Rajesh Khanna failed to do so in the 70’s, Srk has failed to do so now.
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December 22, 2018 at 5:10 PM
You can’t tell me stars don’t want to be the biggest superstar it’s an ego thing and everyone has an ego, my point here is that srk made horrible decisions the last decade and that’s why he is here losing his stardom to Salman Khan, ram gopal verma was correct with this tweet
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December 22, 2018 at 5:30 PM
What I meant was that Kamal has been too much of an artist to settle down in Rajni’s mould. If becoming a megastar would come at the cost of experimentation, he wouldn’t opt for it. He can’t help his intrinsic calling there.
And in response to RGV’s tweets, Aamir has practically done the exact same thing that RGV is preaching against. He has experimented in all sorts of genres and has still experienced the highest Box Office success as well. So what gives?
Salman, for all his fan following, hasn’t been able to breach Aamir’s numbers in 10 years. So RGV’s analysis doesn’t make a whole lot of sense.
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December 22, 2018 at 5:50 PM
The element of surprise is no longer there with SRK both acting and film. Raees at least had a kick ass trailer.
We are flogging the proverbial dead horse. Content is king to get biggest successes. Relying on stardom is a finite strategy. For some it carries on for longer than others but if you churn out good content you will last longer. Agree with all your comments Saket.
SRK is boring now IMO.
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December 23, 2018 at 4:04 AM
RGV makes lot of sense here. Blunt but correct views. Kamal also always wanted to have Rajni’s God-like status, but could never got there…and in the process started doing mindless commercial films, lost his own identity also…..
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December 22, 2018 at 6:20 PM
At least have a real poster on the thread. The one posted on this thread is fan made poster(which is still good one made months before release)!
Use this one: https://img.timesnownews.com/story/1545317056-Untitled_design_2_3.jpg
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December 22, 2018 at 8:48 PM
Fan made poster is quite good. And there is Kat covered with stardust. Imaginative.
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December 22, 2018 at 11:07 PM
Didn’t know..Normally do image search and whatever catches eye!
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December 23, 2018 at 12:03 AM
Bingo! News and image search thanks to google. Open Source code base, free for all dev platform.
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December 23, 2018 at 12:59 AM
From one developer to another – Linus never meant linux open source developers to change the code without understanding how the kernel works. Else the operating system will crash and no one can browse, so page-rank algorithms become useless. Right?
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December 23, 2018 at 3:17 AM
I don’t work as an expert on Linux but to go in mainline it needs to be approved?
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December 23, 2018 at 4:09 AM
Linux comes in various flavors with different distribution certificates. I prefer mint and work with it. But some kind of moderation is always good. Just like my comments have to pass the moderation filter so that i dont spam.
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December 23, 2018 at 4:29 AM
Marcus – Excess of anything is bad…No one can deny your contribution to the blog but at times it has been disruptive..Please keep on commenting and things will be alright.
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December 23, 2018 at 4:43 AM
Agrred Munna. Its just that u urself chose to ignore the ‘excess’ during ToH. Remember?
Double standards are unacceptable in open source comm. No tolerance for this.
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December 23, 2018 at 5:04 AM
You can Bash Zero or any movie, in civil language all day and no one would complain.
Any thing personal or commentator objecting to comment directed to him/her (there is moderators’s discretion involved) , coarse language, or discourse abusing the star, is not allowed. There are warnings; Sometimes subtle and occasionally overt. Of course moderators and admin are not perfect. At end of day we love movies and want to exchange perspective.
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December 23, 2018 at 7:40 AM
But munna dear, are u sure u are aware of moderation guidelines in the first place?
https://www.jarchitect.com/QACenter/index.php?qa=questions&qa_1=architecture-and-layering
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December 23, 2018 at 10:24 AM
Marcus, I don’t want unnecessary and pointless fights. Hope there will be no cause for action going forward. Incidentally these things are not up for ‘debate’. It’s a judgment call. It’s a take it or leave it deal! Things get feisty from time to time, that’s fine, there’s no need to get carried away however. Again hope things move smoothly in this sense going forward.
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December 23, 2018 at 1:18 PM
thanks for this admin, bcos it was shocking to hear another comment sometime ago, to the effect that spending more time here gives you more right to say disrespectful things..
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December 23, 2018 at 1:25 PM
You are twisting my sentence. I just said we are always here but did not say that we can say disrespectful things because of that. They are two different things.
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December 23, 2018 at 1:31 PM
Mayb I wasnt referring to you at all.
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December 23, 2018 at 1:38 PM
I keep track of all comments. And it is I who said that we are here always.
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December 22, 2018 at 6:33 PM
Kat rocks!!
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December 23, 2018 at 1:34 PM
After the criticism this film is fetching, mayb we can rewrite this song and ‘hero badnaam’!
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December 22, 2018 at 8:08 PM
https://twitter.com/girirajsinh248/status/1076427541991194624
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December 22, 2018 at 8:10 PM
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December 23, 2018 at 7:34 AM
Yes. Like always he has overtaken the next highest grossing actor by INR 2.50 after doing 17 films in one year & has thereby become the most profitable actor by selling all his films on commission & pocketing 99.1% of the profits.
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December 23, 2018 at 7:14 PM
Bhai – Dimaag se khela hai Khiladi. 🙂
Jeet Rs 2.0 ka ho ya, 2.0 paise ka…
Business mein mool aur sood samajhna jaroori hai because this number game is a business.
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December 24, 2018 at 5:01 AM
Popularity is not about doing ten 50 Cr grossers & accumulating 500 Cr in a year. Its about selling tickets & being the face of a movie, delivering huge grossers, record openings & highest annual grossers. Despite acting for 26 years Akshay has zero highest annual grossers (HR has 3, Ranbir got his first in 2018 within 10 years) & just 1 record opener in Singh is King. It took a Rajnikanth/Shankar sci fi for him to cross 175 cr (a feat achieved by Krrish 3 five years ago), that too post GST with 1000 more screens. Even in terms of profits, Padman is coverage, Gold is a loser & 2.0 is commission. Sanju alone has made more profit for its investors than all these 3 films combined. The fact is, post RR Akshay did some retrograde cheap mass entertainers like Boss & Khiladi 786 which antagonized the A audience. To win them over he did niche films (his best phase in terms of content) between 2016-18 which isolated his original fan base in the B/C centers (the kind who patronize pungent junk like RR & Welcome). Now he has no option but to do small films or else run the risk of giving big budget losers like Gold. Unless he gets Bhansali or Hirani to sign him of course, since right now they’re the only Bollywood makers who can get 200 cr out of an Akshay film.
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December 24, 2018 at 5:03 AM
Agreed!
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December 22, 2018 at 8:34 PM
I am posting Saket’s 2 comments from the last thread here for reference.
They point out clearly what neutral fans feel about his acting.
Most of the reviews mention that Zero is strictly meant for SRK fans. At least the ones that are negative take care to point that out.
I think this is a key message. SRK, for all his ambition, has not transcended the ambit of his initial stardom. His films and his roles are still catering to his original fan-base. There is no crossover audience to speak of. I say this without watching Zero, of course, but this is the sense that I get.
He has his trademark mannerisms, which define his stardom and his appeal to his fans, but they also alienate another section of the audience. There is not even an attempt to appear different. There are some exceptions like Dear Zindagi (even in this film, his dialogue delivery is reminiscent of his previous romantic roles) but by and large, he has been content to play the same character, or a variation of it, in film after film.
An actor, at least a real one, looks forward to challenges in his/her craft. What has been so challenging about films like Dilwale, HNY, Chennai Express, Ra.One, JHMS or Zero? Where is the drive to push oneself? If anything, it represents a pretty cynical mindset revolving around Box Office success. Perhaps this is the reason why he doesn’t have a crossover audience.
It’s not that people who are not his fans love to hate him. It’s more about finding something relatable in his work that stands out for others to appreciate. Otherwise, the refrain is: If I’ve seen one SRK film, I’ve pretty much seen everything he has to offer. His diehard fans may be OK with that, but why should others follow the same diktat?
As an example, SRK plays (or is supposed to play) a typical guy from Meerut in Zero.
From what angle does he resemble one? He has the same hairstyle, the same mannerisms (the song Mere Naam Tu comes to mind) and the same excessive energy to speak of. What’s really different?
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December 23, 2018 at 9:37 AM
Clearly love stories ain’t working for him anymore, I hope he just hires a new manager that can help him choose scripts with best content, it’s 2019 content is king. I hope a big director like Hirani or bhansali try to revive his career
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December 22, 2018 at 9:08 PM
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/home/science/2-masala-dosas-enough-to-provide-calories-needed-in-a-day-study/articleshow/67212777.cms
Now they are attacking even our masala dosas.
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December 22, 2018 at 9:27 PM
This i something i really want Aamir to do and hope this really happens:
“Aamir has not seen a flop for a very long time. It does happen when things do not go according to the script. The failure of Thugs of Hindostan and Aamir’s subsequent admission for the failure of the film and apology to fans, there is a lot of contemplation and introspection taking place. When things are hunky dory, you move ahead as per plan. But when it is not happening that way, you do not know what to do. You look at what went wrong when you make a film like a masala potboiler unlike how Aamir chooses logic over magic in his other films. He is also slated to make the Mahabharata sometime in the future. Plus he has committed to old friend Amin Hajee to do a film for him,” says a source.
Dec 23, 2018
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Aamin Hajee is basically one of the writers associated with Lagaan/Swades. And this is perhaps the film that is/was planning to do:
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Known for roles such as Baghi in ‘Lagaan’ (2001) and Bit Da in ‘Mangal Pandey: The Rising’ (2005), not many know that Amin Hajee is in a fact a very talented screenwriter who will soon venture into his first directorial. And news has it he has signed Kunal Kapoor and Kalki Koechlin as his leads.
Titled ‘Koi Jaane Na’, Hajee has planned to start shooting for the film in September. Mumbai Mirror reports a source revealing, “It will be shot majorly in Scotland in a month-long schedule with some portions in Panchgani later. Kunal plays a writer who doubles up as a vigilante.”
Apparently, Hajee will turn to his mentor Ashutosh Gowariker for support.
Aug 2, 2018
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But i have no idea what has happened to this film. This is something which will suit Aamir perhaps best (hopefully).
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December 23, 2018 at 1:21 AM
Sounds fantastic!
Do you follow China closely, Marcus? After MB was confirmed more or less involuntarily, it sounds completely different there. He always says he reads scripts and there is no new project. He hopes that he can use the creative potential in China, that a Chinese director can approach him with a good script, that’s what he would like to do best. It sounds like a call, he says it more directly every day. It doesn’t sound anything like a soon MB and it doesn’t feel like he’s just being polite anymore. Very interesting!
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December 22, 2018 at 9:42 PM
Priyanka Chopra and Nick Jonas hosted a grand reception-cum-party for their Bollywood folks in Mumbai on December 20, 2018.
Many B-town biggies and PeeCee’s friends turned up in full attendance to bless the newlyweds.
What caught everyone’s attention was the absence of B-town’s Superstars, Shah Rukh Khan, Aamir Khan, and Akshay Kumar
Many speculations about the trio and their better halves missing the bash started floating in the media and the reason for the same was touted to be their past relationship with PeeCee.
But, if a report in DNA is to be believed, the ones who missed the bash, were busy with their work commitments.
The report further elaborated their whereabouts, Aamir Khan was in China for the promotion of his recently released film, ‘Thugs of Hindostan.
Shah Rukh Khan and Gauri Khan were busy hosting a special screening of ‘Zero’ at their house Mannat in Bandra on the same night, as the film was set to release the next day, i.e. December 21, 2018.
On the other hand, Akshay Kumar was busy spending time with his son Aarav Kumar who is in India for his winter vacation.
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December 23, 2018 at 12:25 AM
BOI goes so soft on Zero crash. With headline such as “Zero Second day business estimate”. For Thugs it was “Thugs Of Hindostan Has Big Fall On Day Two”
Double standards clearly indicated in their commentary to indicate their preference
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December 23, 2018 at 12:40 AM
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December 23, 2018 at 12:50 AM
https://www.indiatoday.in/movies/regional-cinema/story/kgf-box-office-collection-day-2-yash-film-dominates-the-ticket-counters-1415635-2018-12-23
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December 23, 2018 at 12:54 AM
Whenever I try to visit Pinkvilla, my anti virus warns me that it is a harmful site.
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December 23, 2018 at 1:01 AM
https://www.addatoday.com/2018/12/zero-sunday-3rd-day-collection-update.html
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December 23, 2018 at 1:02 AM
https://www.addatoday.com/2018/12/kgf-hindi-saturday-2nd-day-box-office.html
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December 23, 2018 at 1:07 AM
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December 23, 2018 at 1:42 AM
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December 23, 2018 at 1:44 AM
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December 23, 2018 at 1:47 AM
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December 23, 2018 at 1:50 AM
The first 2 are telugu and tamil remakes of Queen with Tamanna Bhatia and Kajal Agarwal. The third one is teaser for trailer releasing on 26th of this month on Balasaheb Thackeray.
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December 23, 2018 at 4:02 AM
tamnnah and Kajal A. are far better actresses than KR and they are far bigger star down South in terms of popularity….South Industry is more disciplined and both these 2 hindi rejects have done superbly well down South.
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December 23, 2018 at 1:52 AM
Just watched zero it was a decent film, the first half was quite good actually it’s the second half that it starts to get weird, but overall not s bad film and Srk was quite good, if this movie came out when he was at the top of his game it would’ve done well but since he is in the downward spiral it flopped, I would give it 6 out of 10, the first half gets 4 out 5 it was really good, can’t believe the 2nd half caused this film to flop,
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December 23, 2018 at 1:56 AM
I like the director he should’ve stuck to his strength which was the first half story telling was great
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December 23, 2018 at 3:02 AM
Boxofficeindia
KGF is excellent business on all formats with second day collections of 19.25 crore nett across India. The film had a little drop in Karnataka but that is still great trending and is only behind Bahubali – The Conclusion in that state. The Hindi version had growth of 50% apprx which is good and it could sustain on the weekdays. Mumbai circuit might end up with good final numbers. The all india collections of the film are over 37 crore nett in two days.The approx first day figures of KGF are as follows.
Karnataka – 12,50,00,000
Hindi Markets – 2,00,00,000
Nizam / Andhra – 2,00,00,000
Tamil Nadu – 1,00,00,000
Kerala – 50,00,000
TOTAL – 17,90,00,000
The approx second day figures of KGF are as follows.
Karnataka – 12,00,00,000
Hindi Markets – 3,00,00,000
Nizam / Andhra – 2,50,00,000
Tamil Nadu – 1,25,00,000
Kerala – 50,00,000
TOTAL – 19,25,00,000
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December 23, 2018 at 9:18 AM
quite remarkable that KGF collected more than zero.
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December 23, 2018 at 3:02 AM
Zero Second Day Business
Sunday 23 December 2018 13.00 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
Zero showed a 12% drop in collections on its second day as it collected 17 crore nett apprx. This takes the business of the film to nearly 36.50 crore nett. The film really needed to grow on Saturday as though Friday was a decent opening day number as a whole it was not good enough for this film.
The surprise is UP and Bihar and these areas actually could do well as when a film falls 12% on an all India level then these areas fall 20% but here the fall in UP and Bihar is less than the major multiplexes and that too on a Saturday. It wont make much difference to the overall picture because in terms of collections they are just 12-15% of all India.
The worst performance is Gujarat which is not doing much more business than Rajasthan when it should be double. Normally these two trend pretty similar but not for Zero The two day figures for Zero are as follows..
Friday – 19,35,00,000 apprx
Saturday – 17,00,00,000 apprx
TOTAL – 36,35,00,000 apprx
There should be growth on Sunday but its unlikely that it will be 30-40% and may have to settle for collections in the range of the first day which would mean a 55 crore nett weekend which is poor number for such a film.
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December 23, 2018 at 3:25 AM
Has Rangan suddenly become producer to Rai, just like Kashyap?
Here’s his glowing review of Zero:
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Zero Review: This Very Literal Flight Of Fancy Is The Year’s Most Audacious Love Story
Zero is all heart. It probably won’t work if you start thinking about the probability of it all, but after a wobbly half-hour I found the film easy to embrace
https://www.filmcompanion.in/zero-review-baradwaj-rangan-this-very-literal-flight-of-fancy-is-the-years-most-audacious-love-story/amp/?fbclid=IwAR0xsh_Oo7azlyMM3ol80B9Sfp6e_FESnqO1-uVOgostfBkYHjlOJT-enQs
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December 23, 2018 at 3:33 AM
I expected this. Nothing surprising.
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December 23, 2018 at 4:00 AM
Rangan and AnJo’s review give the film some life for future generations. If in 2050, Wikipedia can convert Zero release date to 20 years earlier and BOI will of course have it as an all-time blockbuster by 2025, by which time in 2050 Zero will be coined as a 1998 release and a generational revolutionary film following DDLJ…Zero has afterlife capability. But as Shahjaan said for our generation it’s a flop that had some promising moments and SRK’s downturn gave it little hope. So even today it’s a HIT if released many years ago 😀
Even I’m reading my comment and confusing myself!
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December 23, 2018 at 4:05 AM
The same site (Filmcompanion) has given the most brutal review possible to Zero!
Anupama Chopra, herself, has given it one star. And she’s the founder of the site?
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December 23, 2018 at 4:15 AM
Perhaps a balancing act. Rediff does it. Two reviews to please everyone.
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December 23, 2018 at 4:26 AM
Dont forget that Malala also watches hindi films and gives short reviews. First and last review for her. If Toh was shown to her, she would have given a good review. Bad luck!
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December 23, 2018 at 4:41 AM
AnJo has given that review to take revenge on aamir fans for certain reasons. Sort of cold war happening. And thats the reason for Naveen and AnJo liking each other’s comments recently and Naveen supporting AnJo vehemently like a knight in shining armour. AnJo will deny vehemently. But I am smelling something else. And Naveen calls me vindictive!
Now I will run and hide under the bed.
Sorry AnJo. Just what I felt and I maybe wrong.
Because you liked complicated lovestories like Tamasha too.
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December 23, 2018 at 4:46 AM
I liked Tamasha as well. But that film isn’t only a love story. It’s more about a person’s identity crisis. A carefully constructed fable about a man coming out of his society (and parental) induced shackles. And it’s not really that absurd to begin with.
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December 23, 2018 at 4:47 AM
That is why I feel I am mistaking AnJo. Even I liked Tamasha.
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December 23, 2018 at 4:49 AM
Movie watching is very personal and we humans are complex people..
I liked and was intrigued by Ranbir’s Roy and I have not found one soul liking that movie..
I loved Cloud Atlas and recommended to some colleagues and now they don’t listen to my recommendation 🙂
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December 23, 2018 at 4:54 AM
Glad you brought up Cloud Atlas. It exemplifies our ‘Online Game Perception’.
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December 23, 2018 at 4:55 AM
But critics need to be somewhat objective.. Otherwise they will be accused of bias.
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December 23, 2018 at 5:07 AM
There is always bias..even among judges who are supposed to be neutral..IMO review is an opinion.
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December 23, 2018 at 5:09 AM
Then we can call out and point it. We need not accept everything they say as the last word. Many do it regularly on his blog.
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December 23, 2018 at 5:57 AM
followers not questioning their leader becomes religion!
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December 23, 2018 at 6:04 AM
That’s fair Sanjana. But I bet he responds with fairness in kind. Look at the Kadels and Jaiswals of the world. Their retorts are full of venom, Rangan’s a kind fella. Engages even under scrutiny yet defends his position with passion without forcing that opinion on you.
He accepts everyone has a voice. My assumption here, I’m not a follower on his blog. And might be misreading his behaviour.
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December 23, 2018 at 6:04 AM
You are right.
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December 23, 2018 at 5:00 AM
There is always stackoverflow to help out coders …
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/5069605/c-and-multi-tier-architecture
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December 23, 2018 at 5:01 AM
I believe as long as one can articulate exactly why one likes a particular film, it’s fine.
It’s the reasoning that matters to people. And if one can’t spell it out apart from some cliches, that’s when it becomes more of a problem.
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December 23, 2018 at 5:32 AM
Tamasha btw is a beautiful film. I’m listening to it’s songs a lot. Matargashti feels like 3 songs in one but so seamlessly interwoven. And if I recall the picturisation it was itself a random moment. Ranbir, Deepika jodi is very likeable.
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December 23, 2018 at 9:30 AM
Trust me it’s not as bad as it’s performance at the box office. Even if the second half goes haywire it still didn’t bore any of us at theatre. I suggest you to watch it, I went with 5 people and 4 of us found it enjoyable, the audience was enjoying it lots of laughs
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December 23, 2018 at 9:51 AM
It’s highly unlikely I will watch this. Neither a fan of SRK or these love stories with him.
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December 23, 2018 at 2:09 PM
Thanks for the review. I did imaginet it wont be as mediocre or just another love story’ as was being made out to be.
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December 23, 2018 at 6:29 PM
Yeah worth a one time watch with a very well first half
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December 23, 2018 at 4:08 AM
Read the review carefully tonymontana. Here are some excerpts:
The “logical” questions melt away because Rai and his writer, Himanshu Sharma, are in such firm control of the absurdity of it all. This is, after all, a film that opens like a Western, takes detours into the musical and the melodrama, before taking a jaw-dropping leap into sci-fi.
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December 23, 2018 at 4:14 AM
I believe if you play fast and loose with the term sci-fi, you can call Zero a sci-fi film. Rangan also termed 2.0 a sci-fi film. Interstellar is a sci-fi film. And so is Gravity. Just because an absurdist film involves a man going to Mars, it does not become a sci-fi film.
This film, even according to Rangan, is the theatre of the absurd. The challenge for the audience is to find some semblance of sense amidst this absurdity. And people can certainly make some sense out of it. But that’s just a different reading of the film.
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December 23, 2018 at 4:19 AM
But he gave 3.5 stars. That clinches the issue.
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December 23, 2018 at 4:29 AM
He does like the film, for sure. But for completely different reason(s). He likes the meta references in the film. He likes the OTT nature of the plot and the narrative style. In other words, he finds the OTT nature of the film to be quite wonderful.
That’s precisely what has bothered other critics of the film. They can’t seem to reconcile the absurdity with their tastes and expectations. And frankly, with a budget of 200 Crores, this film wasn’t meant to rely on a handful of critics liking the absurdist universe built by Anand L Rai.
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December 23, 2018 at 4:44 AM
But why does he not find the same virtues in a Himesh Reshamiyya’s films? They also have lots of absurdity and meta references.
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December 23, 2018 at 4:48 AM
Why didn’t he like the references in ToH? Only Rangan can tell.
He likes it in one film but not another. He likes Drona but reviles ToH. He likes Zero but criticises Secret Superstar.
If I remember correctly, he also gave a poor review to Te3n. And I loved that film. Absolutely loved it..
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December 23, 2018 at 4:49 AM
Unpredictable and some bias too.
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December 23, 2018 at 5:18 AM
Rangan’s polar opposite of Taran. He gives a review devoid of the baggage of box office. He’s thorough, I haven’t read this yet but I suspect for every film for as much as he can he will try to give it a shot. I find him intriguing but also not a barometer of whether I will like or dislike a film.
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December 23, 2018 at 8:52 AM
He gave a favourable review for Shandaar.
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December 23, 2018 at 5:45 PM
He is consistent then! Maybe he really has a thing for absurdist plots.
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December 23, 2018 at 1:29 PM
Being predictable is not a virtue, in any way.
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December 23, 2018 at 1:33 PM
I am not talking about virtues. I am talking about traits.
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December 23, 2018 at 2:26 PM
why you are repeadtedly misunderstanding today? this was also not meant for u..another comment up there is saying the critics cudnt reconcile the film with their tastes and expectations..my comment was a reaction to that only.
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December 23, 2018 at 7:38 PM
Sorry vijje if I misunderstood.
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December 23, 2018 at 3:41 AM
Johnny Depp officially dropped from Pirates of the Caribbean, Disney producer confirms
Johnny Depp’s tenure as Captain Jack Sparrow has now come to an end, following a Disney executive’s confirmation that the actor will no longer be seen as a part of the Pirates of the Caribbean franchise
https://indianexpress.com/article/entertainment/hollywood/johnny-depp-officially-dropped-from-pirates-of-the-caribbean-disney-producer-confirms-5506078/
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December 23, 2018 at 4:26 AM
This looks horrible.
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December 23, 2018 at 4:31 AM
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December 23, 2018 at 5:03 AM
As Jay says, Zero maybe another citizen Kane and we with low intelligence are unable to come to the same conclusion because we dont regard srk King of acting or emperor of acting due to our inherent bias against him.
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December 23, 2018 at 5:10 AM
seems its a goner. doubt it will survive past the weekend.
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December 23, 2018 at 5:29 AM
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December 23, 2018 at 5:44 AM
My Top 4 among imdb top 4 in 2018:
1. Andhadhun (no question)
2. Padman (can’t even believe one of the greatest socially impacting movies is here. Power.)
3. Sanju (For my love for Ranbir and Saju baba)
4. Badhaai Ho (For my love of Vivian Richards)
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December 23, 2018 at 9:37 AM
i liked Andhadhun for Tabu. Sanju was better as a whole product. Never bothered to watch the other two.
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December 23, 2018 at 10:32 AM
“4. Badhaai Ho (For my love of Vivian Richards)”
LMAO.
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December 23, 2018 at 5:33 AM
CUUUTEEEEE
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December 23, 2018 at 5:46 AM
Giving me vibes of a Rowdy Rathore here.
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December 23, 2018 at 5:36 AM
Simmba is releasing on 28th Friday, instead of Thursday. Good decision. Gives Zero one more day of relief.
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December 23, 2018 at 5:38 AM
Am liking everything about Sara here. She is a natural and humble. Gives great interviews.
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December 23, 2018 at 5:45 AM
He would reignite the second part. Ranbir and him would actually better the first one just from casting perspective.
Problem is do we have the director of the calibre of Raj Kumar Santoshi now?
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December 23, 2018 at 5:59 AM
Crowd screams as Indonesian rock band swept away by tsunami
Video footage shared on social media showed partygoers enjoying the music and then screaming as the waves crashed into the stage and band members were swept away. Reuters was not able to immediately verify the video.
https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/crowd-screams-as-indonesian-rock-band-swept-away-by-tsunami/story-0MM2X7Dre3VBYxOYkWXNpK.html
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December 23, 2018 at 6:00 AM
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December 23, 2018 at 6:02 AM
Lord Hanuman was a sportsperson, his caste shouldn’t be discussed: Ex-Indian cricketer Chetan Chauhan
https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/lord-hanuman-was-a-sportsperson-his-caste-shouldn-t-be-discussed-ex-indian-cricketer-chetan-chauhan/story-Cj1jQmk3iIDnFP1kCWgiWP.html
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December 23, 2018 at 7:06 PM
Hanuman ji sabke hain.
No harm if someone says the greatest is from their own and other says accordingly.
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December 23, 2018 at 10:27 AM
friends, pl. recommend some online links for South movies with subtitles….want to watch Geet Govindam, Savitri biopic and many other films….
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December 23, 2018 at 11:16 PM
Savitri biopic is available on Amazon Prime I think
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December 24, 2018 at 10:54 AM
thanks latha
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December 23, 2018 at 10:31 AM
Sunday similar to Fri as per Addatoday.
https://www.addatoday.com/2018/12/zero-3rd-day-sunday-collection-early.html
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December 23, 2018 at 10:32 AM
https://twitter.com/SumitkadeI/status/1076855535293460481
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December 23, 2018 at 1:30 PM
Let us see how Toh fares in China. 4 days wait. By that time Simmba will be released.
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December 23, 2018 at 1:35 PM
I have liked the comment not because it is supposed to be a disaster but for giving a peep into overseas picture. So far we are not getting overseas figures for Zero.
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December 23, 2018 at 12:22 PM
Hoping this negativity will end by the year end until the next release.
Till then peace.
Let us start the new year with less negativity because it is unrealistic to expect it to die down completely.
Let us wait for Simmba and Manikarnika which will not raise such passions and debates.
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December 23, 2018 at 1:11 PM
I think this ad is probably better than ToH 😉
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December 23, 2018 at 8:36 PM
Better than Zero.
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December 23, 2018 at 9:08 PM
Mathematically speaking, anything is better than Zero!
😉
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December 23, 2018 at 1:16 PM
Meerut to Mars!
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December 23, 2018 at 3:06 PM
On a side note, just finished watching Tummbad and I agree with Saket that this is the best Hindi film of the year. Easily eclipses my other favourite, Andhadhun, in that this isn’t an easy film to shake off
Deeply affecting at a psychological level. The background score is still ringing in my ears. This isn’t merely a horror film. It’s folklore style storytelling is one for the ages, might rven go as one of the classic stories ever written when critiqued fairly years from now.
Anand Gandhi may be “niche” as it is fairly easy to bracket unique voices in the industry, but what a unique voice he is! Tummbad beeds to be watched by one and all, and aim curious to know what others think of it in this group. Yes for a change let’s discuss its merits rather than beating around the bush for Zero and TOH’s “who gives an eff” prospects in China
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December 23, 2018 at 3:36 PM
Unfortunately this is not yet available on Prime in the US.
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December 23, 2018 at 3:49 PM
It is. I had to do a search from the Desktop to find it.
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December 23, 2018 at 4:25 PM
I tried that.. I see the page but there’s no option to watch the movie. Just the trailer. There’s a note there saying as much.
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December 23, 2018 at 5:42 PM
Strange…it must be a regional thing then.
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December 24, 2018 at 12:13 AM
thanks..
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December 23, 2018 at 5:41 PM
Glad you liked Tumbbad so much, tonymontana.
What struck me most about the film was its visual panache. It really is a tale visually narrated, although how the producers were able to manage this much technical finesse with a shoestring budget must comprise a story in itself.
It is, of course, a morality tale about a demon God who is (partly) oppressed by a family that teases him with the grain that he so covets. It’s also a fable about rites of passage within a male patriarchy. The sins of the father are passed on to the son and then, the grandson. It’s also, rather overtly, a tale about greed.
But as good as the story is, the film’s strength lies elsewhere. As you point out, this film stays with you. The visuals are so captivating, the background score is so pulsating, the film enters your system and refuses to leave. This, in effect, is the purest form of story-telling.
The horror elements in the film also add to the visceral feeling. And from the first frame itself, it becomes a captivating experience. There’s also lots to chew upon. In that sense, it’s a very remarkable film — beautifully mounted, but also gives you cause to reflect. A rare gem, indeed.
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December 23, 2018 at 11:46 PM
“It really is a tale visually narrated, although how the producers were able to manage this much technical finesse with a shoestring budget must comprise a story in itself.”
Undoubtedly! I however found some of the visuals–those involving Hastar the weakest link in the film, and mind you, those were still good, just that the film scores extraordinarily in just so many other aspects. I wouldv’e preferred if they hadn’t showed the demon god at all.. well, except maybe in the final scene. Why not present him just as an urban legend: who may or may not exist. That may well have left a lot to the imagination and more to ponder over!
I absolutely loved the part about the grandmother at the movie’s start, that’s what kept me going. the film was extremely neatly conceived and narrated, and I reserve special praise for the kid who plays Vinayak’s son.
“It’s also a fable about rites of passage within a male patriarchy. The sins of the father are passed on to the son and then, the grandson. It’s also, rather overtly, a tale about greed.”
— I agree, but I also found some reviews which called the film’s message rather simplistic about ONLY greed, and I’d like to add there’s more than what meets the eye.
I also see it as the Illuminati concept of how trading for one’s soul can promise one instant wealth but suffering till eternity. One can also make a case of why the film was set in Pre-Independent Era, and how its parallels can be drawn to the current socioeconomic scenario.
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December 24, 2018 at 2:20 AM
Tumbbad is a very well made..as said above, it is like mythological tale set in British raj..I don’t know what is the budget but it will give Hollywood movies run for money….I don’t think it is a horror movie..there are elements though.
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December 24, 2018 at 1:29 AM
I was about 60 % or so into tumbbad sometime ago, where he is taking his son to the village..got interrupted, and then somehow cudnt bring myself to start agian till now.. kind of hesitant..
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December 23, 2018 at 6:34 PM
For Sumit and Rohit…
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December 23, 2018 at 7:10 PM
Wise words. No doubt the two idioms –
– ‘Jumping the gun’
– ‘Shooting the messenger’,
needs good understanding and should be shunned.
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December 23, 2018 at 8:06 PM
I will look out for Bansal’s producer figures on Zero (i like absurd stuff anyways as many will vouch for it). I am surely there will be lots of Zeros in it …
BUT i dont buy producer figures. I learnt it all from Satyam and Jay’s ‘analysis’, when i was a novice in naach-gaana stuff.
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December 23, 2018 at 6:35 PM
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December 23, 2018 at 7:57 PM
Made in Ghana.
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December 23, 2018 at 7:57 PM
https://scroll.in/article/904972/a-young-ghanian-inventor-is-helping-children-go-to-school-without-risking-their-lives
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December 23, 2018 at 10:49 PM
I think it may be best to let go of any ‘debate’ or ‘proof’ or ‘analysis’ on the validity of Red Chillies’ producer figures for Zero.
Instead, we can enjoy the remaining days of the hols having some guilty pleasure (Simmba) OR/AND checking TOH’s chinese cut results in China.
But then again, I am not really a masala fan (sincere apologies to ‘Shetty’), nor am I sure of what Aamir can end up with after trimming off 45 mins of an ‘above’-average effort like TOH anyways. Moreover, it is likely to ‘loose’ all its showings in china with the subsequent releases of the local production ‘A Long Day’s Journey Into The Night’ or ‘Hollywood’s BumbleBee’. [ PS – I have always admired the visuals of Transformer series, although i find no attempt to make a story in those films whatsoever. Does that make me a fan? I dont know … and i dont think it matters. ]
So NO theaters for me please. I will binge-watch ‘Travelers in Netflix’
To sign off – Happy Holidays to all bloggers.
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December 23, 2018 at 11:28 PM
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December 23, 2018 at 11:43 PM
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December 24, 2018 at 12:06 AM
Wait a second guys !!!!
Weekend is over.
No unreasonable appreciation of Zero’s numbers were done by Red Chillies and SRK. It was widely forced on our throat by Marcus that this will happen. However he has so far not provided any claims.
Goes on to show that people like Kadel do take back their words because they need to show accountability, those shooting off do not.
This is just my observation as i said earlier, i am continuously monitoring.
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December 24, 2018 at 12:12 AM
Naveen, no need to provoke anyone with such statements [ It was widely forced on our throat by Marcus that this will happen]
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December 24, 2018 at 12:16 AM
Hmm, i agree. please delete the whole line – [ It was widely forced on our throat by Marcus that this will happen]. It was not meant to be on one person.
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December 24, 2018 at 12:16 AM
boxofficeindia
Zero under performed in the first weekend with collections of 54.50 crore nett. The figures on Sunday could not reach the first day number. The disappointment is what has happened on Saturday and Sunday. The opening was always not going to be huge though it should have been 20% better than what it was. Still this was not that action film or mass comedy which depended on the first day and could easily make up ground.
But instead of making up ground it lost ground. The drop in collections after day one tell its another Shahrukh Khan starrer which has got some numbers due to his presence with the content being rejected. The weekdays may get some numbers due to the holiday period.
The figures are better than Jab Harry Met Sejal and very similar to Fan which pretty much tells the story of the film. The first weekend figures for Zero are as follows.
Friday – 19,35,00,000 apprx
Saturday – 17,00,00,000 apprx
Sunday – 18,25,00,000 apprx
TOTAL – 54,60,00,000 apprx
The film has done best in UP and Bihar probably as the film is set in that world and these places tend to under perform for Shahrukh Khan. The collections in UP and Bihar are not blockbuster levels that it makes much difference to the overall picture but at least in these two states the film has managed average business which is better than other parts of the country.
Shahrukh Khan strongholds like West Bengal, Mysore and Tamil Nadu / Kerala have collected poorly as has Mumbai circuit. the Xmas factor could help over the next two days but the real level of the film will be known on Wednesday after the big holiday.
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December 24, 2018 at 12:18 AM
The movie still has Mon (Christmas Eve) and Tuesday (Christmas) to do well. Ticket Price will remain at weekend level.
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December 24, 2018 at 12:41 AM
don’t look like it will do any better than Fan.
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December 24, 2018 at 12:18 AM
Top Overseas Opening Weekends 2018 – Zero Fifth
Monday 24 December 2018 10.45 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
Zero has not done well in Overseas as it had collected in the $4.75-5 million range. Gulf has done pretty with collections close to $1.75 million. It was released on Friday rather than the regular Thursday and on fair value it would be the second best opening of the year after Race 3 in Gulf. USA / Canada will be around $950k and United Kingdom will do £300k apprx. Both have not performed but it could also be due to pre Xmas and collections should sustain till the New Year. But the film probably does not have the reports to really take benefit of thsi period.
The best market is Pakistan where it collected $525k apprx. It had the third best opening day ever here after Sultan and Sanju. The business from the five markets of United Kingdom, US / Canada, United Kingdom, Australia and Pakistan will be around $4 million and $750k-$1M should come from the rest of the world.
It is the fifth best opener of the year but Shahrukh Khan is the biggest star Overseas (excluding Far East) and it should be doing much better. Dilwale had clocked $8 million a few years back on Xmas and even Jab Harry met Sejal crossed $6 million last year. Padmaavat is the top opener of 2018 and it is also the all time top opener. The top ten openings overseas in 2018 are as follows.
1. Padmaavat – $10,590,000
2. Race 3 – $7,790,000
3. Sanju – $7,220,000
4. Thugs Of Hindostan – $5,730,000 apprx
5. Zero – $5,000,000 apprx
6. Baaghi – $3,360,000
7. Veere Di wedding $2,630,000
8. Pad Man – $2,300,000
9. 2.0 (Hindi) – $2,230,000
10. Badhaai Ho – $2,180,000
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December 24, 2018 at 2:03 AM
“..but Shahrukh Khan is the biggest star Overseas (excluding Far East) ..”
And the never-ending BOI charade continues…
So exclude Far East, but fail to mention that the “Far East” beats the rest of the world combined, by a ratio of at least 3 to 1. Which then begs the question, how does SRK become the biggest? Why even segregate this truncated Overseas market??
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December 24, 2018 at 2:27 AM
Is and was, pretty close BOI. Presently SRK is a shadow of the star he was in overseas. Overseas have rejected him. Jog on BOI.
Exclude ‘far east’ till DDLJ breaks records in Cambodia.
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December 24, 2018 at 12:20 AM
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December 24, 2018 at 12:25 AM
Satyam should give a shot to this film.
Satyamshot.
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December 24, 2018 at 12:23 AM
STAR RANKING
Zero Gets 100 Cr Plus Worldwide In Three Days
Monday 24 December 2018 10.45 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
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Zero crossed the 100 crore mark worldwide in three days and was the sixth best worldwide opener of 2018 but that is below the mark. The collections are below the mark in India and Overseas. It released before the holiday period and genre is not front loaded so 200 crore was probably out of reach but it should have done 175 crore and then have the reports to take advantage of the holiday period.
Sanju is the only film to go over 200 crore worldwide in the first weekend and even that was also non holiday and the genre was also not front loaded but that film had strong momentum pre release with a huge advance and even a couple of songs worked which does not happen with Rajkumar Hirani films. The other films ahead of Zero are Race 3, Thugs Of Hindostan, Padmaavat and Baaghi 2. These six are the only films to go above 100 crore in the first weekend.
The top ten openings worldwide in 2018 are as follows.
1. Sanju – 203.57 crore
2. Race 3 – 181.79 crore
3. Thugs Of Hindostan – 166.54 crore
4.. Padmaavat – 163.31 crore
5. Baaghi 2 – 115.54 crore
6. Zero – 105 crore apprx
7. 2.0 (Hindi) – 94.87 crore
8. Pad Man – 64.75 crore
9. Gold – 63.42 crore
10. Veere Di Wedding – 62.83 crore
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December 24, 2018 at 1:04 AM
Starring superstar Yash & Srinidhi Shetty, KGF got succeed to impress the viewers and gained a solid word of mouth. On Friday, it successfully registered the business of 19.60 crores from 2460 screens nationwide including 2.10 crores from its dubbed Hindi version with 1500 screens.
On Saturday, Prashanth Neel’s directorial witnessed good growth and raked the business of 23.15 crores with 3 crores from the Hindi language. On the next day i.e. Sunday, the film witnessed a further jump and minted the amount of 25.75 crores with 3.90 crores of Hindi version.
With this, the total collection of KGF after the first weekend has become 68.50 crores at the domestic box office including 47 crores from Karnataka (Kannada), 7.25 crores from Andhra Pradesh & Telangana (Telugu), 3.75 crores from Tamil Nadu (Tamil), 1.50 crore from Kerala (Malayalam) & 9 crores from the rest of India (Hindi).
On the other hand, Dhanush & Sai Pallavi starrer the much-awaited Tamil film Maari 2 has got failed to make to the desired impact on viewers. Still, with the support of fans, it opened on a terrific note and did the business of 4.50 crores on Friday from Tamil Nadu.
On Saturday, Balaji Mohan’s directorial the sequel to 2015’s Maari witnessed a drop and grossed 4 crores. While on the next day i.e. Sunday, it collected 4.25 crores and raised the opening weekend total collection to 13.75 crores at the TN box office including around 1.45 crore from Chennai.
https://boxofficecollection.in/box-office-report/kgf-maari-2-3rd-day-box-office-collection-tremendous-opening-weekend-39645
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December 24, 2018 at 1:08 AM
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December 24, 2018 at 1:10 AM
BOI figure 54.60 and Taran’s firure 59.07. More than 4 cr. difference.
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December 24, 2018 at 1:29 AM
I was led to believe that the difference will be more because of ‘unethical’ SRK and red chillies involved.
But looks like they are unethical and “claimant” was looking for unverified entertainment. 🙂
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December 24, 2018 at 2:15 AM
Zeeshan Ayyub To Avoid Big Budget Films For Some Time After Zero Misfires!
“Now, if somebody else has tried something, why are we after his life?,” he questioned
Asked about the problems, he pointed out: “There are many things. I never like my work. I didn’t like my work even in Raanjhanaa. So, I don’t want to give my perspective on the film. If I sit on any film, I will find loopholes. I think Indian films generally don’t work on logic.”
But he shared that, “We missed a bit of Himanshu’s humour in the second half of the film.”
His other release this year, Thugs of Hindostan, also starring Amitabh Bachchan and Aamir Khan, wasn’t a box office winner either.
Now, Zeeshan, who started his Bollywood journey in 2011 with the biographical thriller film No One Killed Jessica, wants to take a break from big budget movies.
“I will avoid very big budget films for some time. The problem is that you don’t have anything at stake when you do these kind of films because most of the critics just talk about the so-called ‘A listers’. So, you don’t get to know about your performance from critics and not too much from the audience.
“I want to do characters which are important to the screenplay. I am also looking forward to doing some web series. Let’s see if things work out. Now, I will explore myself more. I was getting into a ‘secure zone’. My household is running very well now so, I think it’s time to take risks,” added the actor, who will next be seen in Manikarnika: The Queen of Jhansi.
https://www.koimoi.com/bollywood-news/zeeshan-ayyub-to-avoid-big-budget-films-for-some-time-after-zero-misfires/
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December 24, 2018 at 2:29 AM
Good luck Kangana! You might need it!
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December 24, 2018 at 2:35 AM
Ha!
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December 24, 2018 at 2:18 AM
But one thing that worked for Zero is the stardom. With a star-cast consisting of actors that are already flourishing in the industry – Katrina Kaif, Anushka Sharma & the king himself, Shah Rukh, a decent opening was inevitable. The movie collected 20.14 crores on its opening day. As in the case of Simmba, Ranveer Singh undoubtedly is considered as a power- packed performer but when compared with the ‘Khans’ – we’re not sure! Also, it’s just Sara Ali Khan’s second film. So, that’s one thing that might be a drawback for this movie.
https://www.koimoi.com/box-office/zero-vs-simmba-opening-day-will-ranveer-singh-beat-shah-rukh-khan-at-the-box-office/
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December 24, 2018 at 2:35 AM
Top 10 Stars Ranking:
No 1: Akshay Kumar – 2.0 is a game changer. His biggest hit 2.0 along with two other success in 2018 (Padman and Gold) is precedented by 6 Hits in last two years. This is very good run. a big hit was needed to break the shackle which 2.0 gave in its Hindi run. All eyes on Kesari if he has to cement his position. His inability to give Big Hits will keep this rank vulnerable.
No 2: Aamir Khan – Dangal released in 2016 and ToH was supposed to be bigger hit. However ToH flopped and this changed the equation for Akshay. With no release in sight, he slides one rank down.
No 3: Salman Khan – A force. Halo is gone post Race 3. Would need a blockbuster to sustain flurry of Akshay’s hits.
No 4: Ranveer Singh / Ranbir Kapoor – Simbaa can pust Ranveer above Ranbir if a Hit.
No 6: Ajay Devgn / Ayushmaan Khurana – Ayushmann is now a star with two superhits – Badhaai Ho and Andhadhun
No 8: Varun / Tiger Shroff – October and Sui Dhaga was average but past films keep it going for Varun. Tiger’s Baaghi 2 is one of the biggest hit.
No 10 : SRK – He needs to reinvent now.
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December 24, 2018 at 2:37 AM
LOL Naveen. You really are drunk already and it’s not even Xmas day yet!
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December 24, 2018 at 3:04 AM
Am starting in a while now. 😛
Where is the glitch?
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December 24, 2018 at 3:06 AM
Akshay’s #1 long ago. 😀
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December 24, 2018 at 3:22 AM
jay u r missing the point man…..akki was above all no. game man so far…..but now he has humbly agreed to accept the no. 1 position 😉 accept and ack. that from the transcendent-super-star of the milky way man 🙂
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December 24, 2018 at 3:32 AM
OHH I see.
Akshay was never No 1 till now.
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December 24, 2018 at 3:34 AM
See these things are relative. A flop and a game changer movie was needed. No one is a dynast here.
If u are accusing me of favouritism then i cannot argue.
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December 24, 2018 at 3:38 AM
I haven’t accused you of anything. You are accusing yourself of what you think I am accusing you of 😀
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December 24, 2018 at 3:45 AM
I have maintained an unbiased ranking so far. Being a fan of Akshay, i was more strict with him and only when ToH and Race 3 flopped and his 2.0 gave him his career best hit, could he manage No 1 ranking. He has given 8 successes before 2.0 but that was not enough for him because competition were doing better.
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December 24, 2018 at 4:53 AM
A career best doesn’t qualify. It’s like a batsman suddenly scoring a century after so many efforts of getting close and when he hits a career best he is top of ICC rankings! No one will begrudge Akshay if he’s at #3 but if you feel he’s #1 already it’s 1 in a 1000 opinion. His openings don’t suggest it. In fact a bad WOM film like Zero is opening in similar range to 2.0. But Akshay’s record of hits is now clearly giving SRK a run for his money.
Forget Salman or Aamir, they are opening films at another level.
2.0 is not a seminal moment for a star to jump 2 places from 3 to 1 even if 1 and 2 failed. 1 failed for first time in years!
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December 24, 2018 at 5:04 AM
Yes, if they open big again, they will become No 1 again. But a flop will also have its cost.
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December 24, 2018 at 5:09 AM
2.0 is a superhit in Hindi or some may call Hit+ depending on the standard. But a game changer in terms of cinema and also a huge leap for Akshay in terms of gross, though it is still not close to the highest.
But the momentum gained and the variety he is bringing changes the game a bit in his favour. If he had only one release with 2.0 and with same result, he would not have become No 1. But a rare movie like Padman and Gold becoming success along with the momentum of 2016-17 helps him.
Again, Akki is on a thin edge here. It’s not an outright No 1 which Aamir or Salman enjoyed over last few years alternately.
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December 24, 2018 at 5:15 AM
As genuine successes go including audience reception, Ayushman has to be top performer of the year (NOT TOP STAR). Biggest star’s overall are still Salman and Aamir. Biggest stars of 2018; 100% Agree with Rahul’s list.
I do agree with the Mr Reliable tag to Akshay. He is reaching a stage where a big flop hasn’t happened for some time. But 2.0 is a difficult film to conclude anything from really. It’s firstly not Akshay’s film. More Shankar and Rajni. But it’s worked in Hindi belt only so Akshay’s performance and visibility can be connected to it’s success here. Everywhere else it’s not done well. So if you take the good only from Hindi belt plus kudos you got to take some of the bad elsewhere. Can’t have your cake and eat it too!
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December 24, 2018 at 7:29 AM
Shikar scores a century while Kohli fails. That does not put Shikar as the #1 batsman, does it?
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December 24, 2018 at 2:41 AM
Bravo Kadel! You’ve redeemed yourself.
Now I want Saket’s numbers, only trustworthy stuff out there! Saket are you on Twitter? I feel you can become famous here…
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December 24, 2018 at 3:07 AM
I also want Saket’s numbers for ToH where makers manipulated big time.
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December 24, 2018 at 3:21 AM
He already shared Day 1. I think something like 47-48Cr. I leave it to him to respond anyway!
And don’t shoot the messenger! I don’t like Kadel but I at least acknowledge he is calling a spade a spade (at this point).
I didn’t write this for example…
‘No unreasonable appreciation of Zero’s numbers were done by Red Chillies and SRK. It was widely forced on our throat by Marcus that this will happen. However he has so far not provided any claims.’
Inflation is inflation whether it is Zimbabwe type inflation or Greek type or China type or US type. It’s all the same. If you want to do the right thing, call them all out, don’t be selective about it!
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December 24, 2018 at 3:27 AM
If Race 3 1st day is 28.5 Crores, ToH first day is not less than 48.84 crores. That’s what my numbers indicate.
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December 24, 2018 at 3:29 AM
Firstly when Kadel writes it’s a ‘new trend’…He’s lost the plot already. Overreported numbers have been around for a LONG TIME. No way is TOH one of the first instances. In ANY CASE, BOI shares the same numbers for TOH as YRF! LOL! I don’t even have to say more here! Your venom on TOH can actually be directed at BOI instead of me 😀
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December 24, 2018 at 3:48 AM
The three day weekend of ToH as per Kadel has a difference of a whopping Rs 15 Cr. So a weekend valuation would be needed to dissect the truth, not just day 1.
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December 24, 2018 at 3:31 AM
I was relying on @BoxotopView to provide the centre-wise updates on occupancy but he/she hasn’t updated his twitter account after the 1st day.
Incidentally Bollytrick has also not given any numbers since yesterday. Wonder why!
It’s best to have a python script to scrape the web, especially booking sites, but that may or may not be ethical. So, that’s kind of a a brick-wall for us amateurs.
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December 24, 2018 at 3:36 AM
Understand. The moment you started, you’ve been presented with an obstacle. I actually think publicly displaying your good intentions and prowess here might be a bad call. I would not be surprised if people ‘in the industry’ are worried about you already! Keep a low profile!
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December 24, 2018 at 3:50 AM
Saket, till you get data for Zero….am looking forward to see if ToH was less than 15 Cr (as per Kadel) or was it even more?
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December 24, 2018 at 3:52 AM
I was led to believe a completely different ethics of Aamir Khan’s movie. Saket, you are confirming that Day 1 for ToH was low by 2.5 Cr. This is alarming and Kadel is sating weekend was pushed by 15 Cr? This is quite massive.
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December 24, 2018 at 4:01 AM
Aamir is not producer of TOH. I know you desire to club him in so just do it! None of his productions till date have been questioned or scrutinised like RCE, Filmkraft, SKF etc.
And don’t stop here. Even 2.0 is getting all kinds of variable worldwide figures!
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December 24, 2018 at 4:11 AM
Nowhere close to 15 crores. Around 4-5 crores, max.
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December 24, 2018 at 4:57 AM
Crunch the numbers for the weekend. just like day 1, weekend may surprise.
yes and also pls do for 2.0 if not already done.
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December 24, 2018 at 4:59 AM
I already did for ToH. Haven’t done it for 2.0 but there is no data for 2.0 regarding the 2D/3D screen split.
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December 24, 2018 at 2:41 AM
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December 24, 2018 at 2:59 AM
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December 24, 2018 at 3:02 AM
https://www.addatoday.com/2018/12/zero-monday-4th-day-collection-update.html
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December 24, 2018 at 3:27 AM
Virat Kohli
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@imVkohli
· Dec 23, 2018
Saw @Zero21Dec and loved the entertainment it brought. I enjoyed myself. Everyone played their parts well. Loved @AnushkaSharma performance because I felt it was a very challenging role and she was outstanding. 👌👌
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December 24, 2018 at 3:28 AM
Sayeed Ahamed
@SayeedA56669445
So this is the secret of your patience in cricket ground 😂. If you can enjoy this movie, surely you enjoy batting on day 5th pitch😜
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December 24, 2018 at 4:56 AM
Hope Virat does not score a Zero this tour. He and Anushka will be trolled
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December 24, 2018 at 3:33 AM
https://www.indiatimes.com/entertainment/virat-kohli-calls-anushka-sharma-s-performance-in-zero-outstanding-trolls-can-t-keep-calm-359147.html
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December 24, 2018 at 3:34 AM
https://www.news18.com/news/buzz/virat-kohli-praises-anushka-sharmas-performance-in-zero-gets-massively-trolled-1981863.html
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December 24, 2018 at 3:40 AM
he he typical husband-talk. Shaam ko ghar jaana he aur khana bhi khana he uske haath ka 🙂 phir taarif to karni padegi na 🙂
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December 24, 2018 at 3:42 AM
LOL that’s not politically correct. In the 21st century, Kohli could easily be the cook in the house and Anushka could be a couch potato!
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December 24, 2018 at 3:41 AM
so zero will start below 10 cr per day from today….how far it can go with so much negative wom…..80 cr?
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December 24, 2018 at 3:58 AM
https://www.addatoday.com/2018/12/zero-monday-4th-day-collection-update.html?m=1
Very likely to be at single digits today. First week looks like 75-80Cr. Rest will be 5Cr probably. The producer numbers for 1st weekend are showing better than expected hold for me. Sunday is better than Friday. Even the tweets of Jaiswals and Kadels don’t make sense i.e. manipulating is happening, but how much I have no idea! Because their occupancy reports suggest lower numbers than they are claiming as manipulation. So either their occupancy reports are wrong or they are downplaying the level of manipulation. In other words they might be inflating themselves! So I don’t trust this bs at all. It’s smug traders, calling other kettles black when they themselves maybe doing similar things.
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December 24, 2018 at 4:14 AM
Think Jaiswal and Kadel are closer to the mark. They’ve reported the decline in Kolkata’s occupancy correctly. And I believe both are from Kolkata.
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December 24, 2018 at 3:44 AM
KGF: Huge In Karnataka – Decent In Hindi And Andhra
Monday 24 December 2018 14.00 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
KGF has done excellent business in the opening weekend as it runs riot in Karnataka. The weekend collections in the state are only second to Bahubali – The Conclusion. It has also done well in Mumbai and Nizam / Andhra. The collections in Tamil Nadu and Kerala are low. The Hindi version has done decent business over the first weekend thanks to good busines in Mumbai circuit and CP Berar. The trend is also good with solid growth on Saturday and Sunday.
It remains to be seen where the Hindi version goes over the weekdays but it should hold well over the holiday period and the test will be Friday as Simmba will strong in the areas that KGF is doing its best business. .The approx first weekend figures of KGF are as follows.
Karnataka – 38,00,00,000
Hindi Markets – 9,00,00,000
Nizam / Andhra – 3,00,00,000
Tamil Nadu – 1,50,00,000
Kerala – 75,00,000
TOTAL – 52,25,00,000
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December 24, 2018 at 3:54 AM
Wow looks at Karnataka numbers. Its mind blowing and unheard in the state.
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December 24, 2018 at 4:01 AM
https://www.rediff.com/movies/report/and-salman-arrived-for-priyankas-reception/20181221.htm
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December 24, 2018 at 4:03 AM
I beginning to like Ranveer a lot. Makes a lot of sense. Incidentally, has he stolen Bappi Lahiri’s wardrobe?
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December 24, 2018 at 4:13 AM
LOL, yes. His dressing sense is completely out there.
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December 24, 2018 at 4:18 AM
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December 24, 2018 at 4:22 AM
Bachchan shooting for JHUND in Nagpur..Manjule & Bachchan; just can’t wait for this one…
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December 24, 2018 at 4:42 AM
Nice pictures and thoughts. Stopped going to his blog long back because of the changes in the formats. Happy to go through this. That must be Sholapur blanket. I have around 6 and they last forever. Bachchan forever! Like Sholapur blankets.
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December 24, 2018 at 4:27 AM
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December 24, 2018 at 4:28 AM
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December 24, 2018 at 4:29 AM
Looking at these numbers, the RCE figure looks completely dubious.
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December 24, 2018 at 4:28 AM
Ayushmann Khurrana – Shoojit Sircar out of John Abraham’s football biopic, 1911?
Five years back, 1911 was to be made with Shoojit and John Abraham as co-producers and Ayushmann Khurrana in the lead. Khurrana had even roped in his brother Aparshakti Khurrana (a national-level footballer) to be coached in football.
But now, the long-in-the-pipeline project 1911 has finally been announced. And there is no Ayushmann and no Shoojit in the project. Instead, John will play the lead while his new favourite director Nikkhil Advani who is also directing John in Batla House, will direct the football film.
A pity that the project has slipped out of Shoojit’s hands. A self-confessed football enthusiast he vowed to cast only real-life footballers in the film.
http://www.bollywoodhungama.com/news/bollywood/ayushmann-khurrana-shoojit-sircar-john-abrahams-football-biopic-1911/
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December 24, 2018 at 4:32 AM
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December 24, 2018 at 4:42 AM
It’s been a strange year. The 3 Khans have faced disasters. Race 3 at 165cr (most probably inflated figures here), TOH at around 140cr and now Zero will struggle to get past 100cr.
On the other hand, the young guns who can throw in a challenge during the next few years, Ranbir, Tiger and Ranveer, have had massive grossers.
Akshay Kumar is the Mr Reliable of this year.
Ayushman Khurana is the underdog who has over-performed massively. Honourable mentions to guys like Kartik Aryan, Vicky Kaushal and Rajkumar Rao there.
Another huge surprise is that John Abraham, the non-actor with a series of flops before this year, ends the year with 2 hits.
If Simba is a massive grosser, then it most probably is Ranveer’s year.
If not, then IMO this may be the current order (for this year only):
1. Ranbir
2. Ranveer
3. Tiger
4. Ayushman Khurana
5. Akshay Kumar
6. John Abraham
7. Ajay Devgan
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December 24, 2018 at 4:45 AM
What about leading ladies? Their ranking? They also performed very well.
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December 24, 2018 at 4:49 AM
On what basis is Akshay Mr Reliable in 2018? Padman barely covered costs due to smart economics, Gold was a loser & 2.0 being an extravaganza was barely commission. Mr Reliable!
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December 24, 2018 at 5:03 AM
Ok, let’s just put JA at No.5 then. On the other hand, the otherwise dependable Varun Dhawan has had an underwhelming year.
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December 24, 2018 at 5:03 AM
Just for the shree variety, relevance of the movie Padman and superhit 2.0, and the momentum gained since last 2 years i will have Akshay as No 1.
2. Ranbir gave the biggest hit of the year but lacks the momentum. He basically made himself as top star once again with Sanju. before Sanju, many were doubting.
3. Ayushman and Tiger but will edge to Ayushman for sheer variety and velocity.
4. Ranveer for Padmaavat. Will give him No 2 is Simbaa is a hit. If superhit or above, he will be No 1 for 2018 but not overall as Ranveer did not have a great 2016-17 like Akshay.
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December 24, 2018 at 5:10 AM
Naveen, I didn’t want to get into the 2.0 debate again. But a film sold at less than 80cr and earns 185cr is a solid hit IMO. If it isn’t then, the success of a lot of films need to be re-categorised.
I remember a few people denying the blockbuster status of Ghaijini once due to bizare economics they were trying to apply. I can bet they never applied the same economics again to other films.
I have yet to see any trade specialist call 2.0 in hindi a flop or commission earner anywhere. From BOI to Taran to the likes of Kadel, the figures were in similar range and everyone called it a hit at least.
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December 24, 2018 at 5:27 AM
2.0 is a hit Rahul. Gold and Padman are not but Naveen keeps peddling them as. Call a spade a spade.
2.0 opened to 20Cr. So it’s hardly suggesting Akshay’s a #1 star! THIS IS WHY I CAN’T TAKE NAVEEN SERIOUSLY! It’s not april 1st today!
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December 24, 2018 at 5:32 AM
When we look at economics of these films, then at the time of release it was said that Gold would need around 120cr to break even. It did around 105cr. net (BOI figures) So, it technically is a flop. Anyway, the trending was poor.
Padman was reasonably budgeted. It was said it would be a hit at 90cr. It did around 80cr. Maybe something like average status.
2.0 is a hit.
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December 24, 2018 at 5:11 AM
Some folks still call a commission earner, a big scale grand sci fi extravaganza with over 4000 screens and 180 cr collection as Super Hit. 2.0 in Hindi is nothing more than a Semi Hit. Boi is out of its mind. Even Ra.1 had similar footfalls to 2.0 Hindi.
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December 24, 2018 at 9:54 AM
copy that. and Ra.one had similat trending to 2.0 too
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December 24, 2018 at 5:13 AM
2.0 is a superhit in Hindi or some may call Hit+ depending on the standard. But a game changer in terms of cinema and also a huge leap for Akshay in terms of gross, though it is still not close to the highest.
But the momentum gained and the variety he is bringing changes the game a bit in his favour. If he had only one release with 2.0 and with same result, he would not have become No 1. But a rare movie like Padman and Gold becoming success along with the momentum of 2016-17 helps him to emerge No 1 star for 2018 and also in the overall Ranking which i have given above.
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December 24, 2018 at 5:22 AM
I called him Mr Reliable because he is the only actor who has carried on the momentum gathered during last few years.
The other major stars (the Khans) have delivered flops. And the ones who have delivered blockbusters had lacked consistency before. They need to build on this year.
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December 24, 2018 at 6:47 AM
Game changing cinema? Lol…Baahubali toh ghaas charne gaye hain. 2.0 is described by many as an inferior product to even 2010’s Enthiran. Forget game changing. As for #1 stardom, a guy with nil HGOTY & 1 record opener in 26 years of career cannot be dreamt of being called #1 even by his greatest worshippers like yourself.
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December 24, 2018 at 7:00 AM
Cold hearted truth in black and white. This is a silly debate whether genuinely contrived or not is dependent upon what you think of Naveen in general. Facts are better.
Even a billion releases means little in the debate.
Nishikora will not be considered bigger than Federer if he wins more ranking points in a year. Djokovic and Nadal can be debated with Federer because they win the big ones.
2.0 is like Zverev beating Djokovic in atp final. It’s like a seminal moment for Zverev but the question remains can he do it in a grand slam over 5 sets?
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December 24, 2018 at 4:56 AM
Of course, actresses like Deepika, Alia and Shraddha completely owned films like Padmaavat, Raazi and Ek Stree respectively. More power to them!
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December 24, 2018 at 5:10 AM
And also Tabu, Apte, Neena Gupta, Katrina, Anushka, October girl, Rani, Tapsee Pannu,
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December 24, 2018 at 5:24 AM
Agree over every one of them. But Katrina in TOH and Zero? I don’t think she belongs there.
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December 24, 2018 at 5:19 AM
Alia surely is the leader here with Raazi along with Dipika for Padmaavat.
Shraddha actually did not gain much from Stree and i still cannot figure out why?
I would rate Tabu and Neena higher just for 2018 over Anuksha and Shraddha.
1. Alia and Dipika
3. Neena Gupta
4. Tabu
5. Sara Ali Khan
6. Anushka
7. Shraddha
8. Rani Mukherjee
9. Tapsi Pannu
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December 24, 2018 at 5:23 AM
Sara Ali Khan debuts at 5? Why not put her at #1 just to put an exclamation mark to this comedy act on Xmas eve.
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December 24, 2018 at 5:27 AM
Here i am also giving her advantage for Simbaa and the main reason for Kedarnath’s success.
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December 24, 2018 at 5:29 AM
Simbaa hasn’t even released. Naveen I knew from beginning eventually Akshay is #1. You were only waiting for an opportunity. But even here you are misguided. LOL first film of his that got close to 200Cr and you took him to #1! Good one!
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December 24, 2018 at 5:55 AM
Actually i was 100% sure he would not be No 1. But how times change.
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December 24, 2018 at 5:40 AM
Neena Gupta at number 2- Then why not Gajraj Rao at no 2? I am sure Viv Richards will not object
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December 24, 2018 at 5:40 AM
ROFLMAO
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December 24, 2018 at 5:45 AM
Well just in 2018, only two actresses did better than Neena.
This is not overall ranking.
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December 24, 2018 at 5:27 AM
How can Akshay Kumar be ranked higher than Aamir or Salman when his biggest hits are unable to outgross their flops? 2.0 being the only exception, thus far.
It’s like saying Aamir had become #1 in 1988 because QSQT was a hit and Shehenshah was average. Even though the latter outgrossed QSQT.
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December 24, 2018 at 5:30 AM
Akshay’s biggest grossers have not crossed the numbers that ToH & Race 3 have produced this year.
And he has attempted a mix of genres too. Rowdy Rathore, adjusted for inflation, would rank higher but that film released 6 years ago.
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December 24, 2018 at 6:51 AM
If RR is adjusted for inflation & screen count, lets do the same for HAHK, DDLJ, RH, Border, Gadar, 3I or even KNPH. Lets see where Akshay ranks among them.
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December 24, 2018 at 5:38 AM
No by Naveen’s logic Aamir debuted at #5 in 1988 and Salman at #1 in 89.
It took the most expensive film ever made to gift Akshay his biggest grosser till date. Even here it is lower than 3 Idiots in 2009! Lower than ETT in 2012! CE in 2013! Utter nonsense, not taking the rankings seriously, just ranting like I do with BOI.
Akshay’s tests are in 2019. Big budget films riding on him only. Then we can see what he can do! Beyond that I’ve joked before that it was only a matter of time that Akshay’s #1 by Naveen. But I thought he’d at least wait and not grab the first opportunity…whilst everyone looks at him and goes 🤦♂️
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December 24, 2018 at 5:41 AM
“No by Naveen’s logic Aamir debuted at #5 in 1988 and Salman at #1 in 89.”
Never said that 🙂
If you have seen my ranking since last 4 years, i have never had Akshay even at No 3 till SRK slowed down and Akshay picked up.
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December 24, 2018 at 5:38 AM
Saket, I have given my reasons above in the overall ranking as well as 2018 only ranking.
If we are starting the criteria for no 1 to have highest grosser or close to it then he is not.
In my criteria, it is not essential but important. Akshay doesn’t have it but have compensated it along with those having biggest grossers slowing down.
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December 24, 2018 at 5:40 AM
And again because he doesn’t have top grossers, he stand on a thin edge. It is not a firm No 1 as what Aamir had.
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December 24, 2018 at 5:43 AM
It’s a firm #3 at best. You have deserted fandom of Salman and SRK which was only their to poke in noses of Aamir fans to slyly push Akshay to #1 right under our noses. Even Santa is not this generous.
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December 24, 2018 at 5:42 AM
Why are you mixing objective data (Box Office numbers) with subjective opinions? Choose one or the other.
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December 24, 2018 at 5:47 AM
I am strictly going by Box office performance.
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December 24, 2018 at 5:51 AM
No, you are not. You are mixing subjective opinions about Akshay with Box Office performance. If Box Office numbers are the only criteria, Ranbir and Ranveer will rank higher than Akshay.
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December 24, 2018 at 5:53 AM
How much are you considering opening?
Ps. Even Aamir in 06 wasn’t outgrossing opposition but at least in diverse films like MP, RDB and Fanaa he was challenging or breaking opening day records. So it was only a matter of time Ghajini happened.
Akshay’s no closer to the top than in 2007. His last record opener was 2008!
This is self indulgance and we are giving it to much attention and it will give Naveen an ego like SRK. It will eventually end. Kesari won’t open 40Cr+, if it opens 30Cr+ I can listen or read this nonsense!
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December 24, 2018 at 5:54 AM
No doubt both have given a bigger hits in 2018.
However as i said, the volume, variety and 2.0’s success breaking his upper ceiling along with the 9 consecutive successes since last 3 years gives him the edge.
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December 24, 2018 at 5:56 AM
Gold is a flop. Padman is hardly a success. Where do you get your 9 consecutive successes argument from?
Why do you care about variety when we are discussing Box Office numbers ONLY?
What was the opening day number for 2.0 again?
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December 24, 2018 at 6:00 AM
Veriety is not the main reason…just mentioning it but ignore if it is looking odd.
I will take your point Saket. Actually Akshay’s No 1 ranking is because of inconsistency of stars who were giving biggest grossers and lesser volume. It is not absolute but relative.
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December 24, 2018 at 5:44 AM
“Akshay’s biggest grossers have not crossed the numbers that ToH & Race 3 have produced this year.”
This will be true for any No 1 star’s movie. His biggest flop will always fetch higher than average hit movies. But then the cost will also be substantially high and so will be the hype.
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December 24, 2018 at 5:48 AM
But why didn’t YRF choose Akshay for ToH? Why did they have to settle for Aamir?
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December 24, 2018 at 5:50 AM
Looks like they wanted to work with the reigning No 1 then.
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December 24, 2018 at 5:54 AM
Looks like they still haven’t entrusted Akshay Kumar with the biggest budget films so far. Why is that?
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December 24, 2018 at 6:01 AM
Factually 2.0 was entrusted with Akshay. Then factually pan India it’s a flop on Akshay’s name. Or the flop is Shankar’s or Rajni’s and the hit only Akshay’s.
Does Amy Jackson debut at #1?
Don’t waste your time Saket. You are way too smart for this. Write some comments on Tummbad etc.
We can handle this nonsense debate. It happens every so often.
I reiterate Naveen’s random love for Salman, SRK is false pretense to antagonise Aamir fans. It’s profanity to just get Akshay to this position. He probably likes Salman and SRK but hates Aamir. So he befriends Salman and SRK fans to just provoke Aamir ones. But the goal is to promote Akshay Kumar!
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December 24, 2018 at 5:56 AM
They did work with Akshay in Tashan when he became a big star. Now that he is again, they will sign him.
But now YRF are no longer the brand it was when Aamir signed for ToH.
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December 24, 2018 at 9:29 AM
who said 2.0 is a flop pan india?Let krish give his estimates.
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December 24, 2018 at 9:50 AM
I know it’s tough to understand but it’s probably true. If something costs way too much, recovery was absolutely difficult here. It’s a financial loss. But in Hindi release it’s a success.
Krish can confirm. I am going on my instincts rather than any verifiable data.
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December 24, 2018 at 9:54 AM
https://www.businesstoday.in/trending/box-office/2point0-box-office-collection-day-23-rajinikanth-magnum-opus-struggles-to-touch-rs-800-crore-mark-worldwide/story/303363.html
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December 24, 2018 at 12:02 PM
You lie that 2.0 is a flop pan india.2.0 is above average in south.And then someone else lies gold is flop.You should stop lying.I won’t indulge in foolish debates with you.
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December 24, 2018 at 6:09 AM
Saket,
Akshay’s No 1 rank has to be seen two fold.
His No 1 is not absolute and only because of his Box office. It is just relative. Actually Akshay’s No 1 ranking is largely because of inconsistency of stars who were giving biggest grossers and lesser volume. It is not absolute but relative. hence his rank is unstable and possible temporary.
To get a stable No 1 and unanimous acceptance he has to get absolute and only on his box office. Some like what Aamir and Salman gave and they had solid consistent grossers which defied any competition come what may. Their ranking was in absolute terms.
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December 24, 2018 at 6:15 AM
Now it’s just blabbering to cover up the farce and retort!
Akshay needs 2 solid years of big grossers…big is by definition 250Cr+, I’m not even saying get TZH, PK or Dangal. Just get a freaking 30Cr+ opener and a Padmaavat or Kick or heck even Golmaal Returns. Just get 1 in 2019 and 2020 then Naveen can talk. All his other billion films can even flop.
Ajay Devgnn has TWO 30Cr+ openers and ONE 200Cr+ grosser and is being ignored.
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December 24, 2018 at 12:08 PM
Maybe you don’t know, aamir khan has retired but isn’t saying that.Srk has also most probably retired.So they are outside ranking now.Bharat doesn’t look that good,So going but that Akshay and salman are biggest stars now.Jay shah’s ranking is based on assumptions.
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December 24, 2018 at 12:16 PM
Yes everyone is finished. They made way as soon as Akshay arrived 26 years ago. They woke up on 24.12.18 to all decide together to arrive to the decision to retire collectively and give Akshay his well earnt slot of #1. Bravo bravo! 😀
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December 24, 2018 at 6:33 PM
In Aamir’s case it’s not one flop with TOH that will hurt him. It’s lack of releases after TOH. If his next film releases in 3 or 4 years, then there is a vacuum out there. In Salman’s case, his position may be affected by a couple of under-performers right after Race 3. – Rahul
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December 24, 2018 at 6:06 AM
Ranking of top stars
1. Salman and Aamir
3. SRK and Akshay
5. Ranbir and Ranveer
7. Devgnn
8. Dhawan
9. Tiger
10. Khurana
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December 24, 2018 at 6:12 AM
Jayshah…just to give you a reply in the language you used.
LOL….Why Not Aamir Khan from No 1 to 10. You any way were working hard to keep him intact. One can hardly trust jayshah in such things as he has been playing the agenda for some time making Zero look a bigger flop than ToH etc. 😀
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BTW, this is not my language. I acted as Jayshah.
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December 24, 2018 at 6:13 AM
Please see my ranking, ponder and think over it unbiased. 🙂
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December 24, 2018 at 6:17 AM
Brilliant agenda. Zero released on Friday, 3 day agenda exposed 😀
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December 24, 2018 at 6:17 AM
This site is so biased and blind, Salman delivered 2 disasters on holiday with no competition, and Aamir just delivered one of the biggest disasters of all time on the biggest holiday with 3 open weeks. Next Aamir release is prob in 3-4y away, so obviously he is not nr 1 or wont be nr 1 for long.
SRK the less said, the better, this guys last good movie was CDI 2007.
Firstly let your stars do 3-4 movies/y over a period of 10y+, and then lets compare average grossers.
Bollywood makes 95% crap movies, so of course if an actor makes more movies, there is a higher chance of failure, thats common logic. Akshay has a different way, and hes happy
To get the biggest grossers, it has to be an event movie, just like in Hollywood, look at Avengers etc.
A movie about toilet and pads arent gonna do 300+, Gold opened to 25, although it was a bad movie, it still didnt make losses.
2.0 was an event movie, but people suddenly forget it was a long delayed movie and even the trailer wasnt anything special. It opened on a normal weekend and was a dubbed movie which is off-putting for many. It still did well enough.
I dont like all Akshay movies, but he is the only one of the big 5 who constantly tries different genres and takes risks. He really has come a long way from his struggling days and that should be appreciated.
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December 24, 2018 at 6:24 AM
Do the averages and talk. Count Dhobi Ghat and Secret Superstar too. Aamir has delivered 5 All time grossers and Akshay’s streak is considered as more? We are talking box office stars here not ROI or Hit count or frequency or whatever. We all know TOH is a disaster, this disaster outgrossed every Akshay film ever except his highest grosser 2.0 which itself is the most expensive film ever from India.
This is not saying Akshay’s nothing. READ what the discussion is about. Khurana has 2 films of diversity this year, bigger successes ROI wise than Akshay period. Is he bigger than Akshay?
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December 24, 2018 at 6:37 AM
If Akshay had a couple of 25Cr openers and 200Cr+ grossers obviously he is considered due to high volume. But he doesn’t. The fact remains his best total is a total many have reached. He can do 10 films a year – that’s HIS choice and that dilution won’t change the dynamics of biggest star. 10 small hits vs 2 monster hits – is a profitability debate or debate on quality or success rates. Being biggest star is very easy debate. It’s what Shivaay wrote.
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December 24, 2018 at 6:39 AM
First of all, if we count Dhobi ghat and SS and Talash, out of 7 releases this decade, 4 were losses/disasters. Thats really something to be proud of, isnt it 🙂
The rest Dhoom, PK and Dangal, didnt I say that you need event movies to get the big grossers? Out of these, I will give full credit to Aamir only for Dangal. If Hirani can give Ranbir a 350cr+ movie after the latter giving disaster after disaster, then the question is, how much did Aamir really add to PK?
About Khurana, let him do that for a couple of years and then maybe he will be bigger.
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December 24, 2018 at 6:48 AM
Nonsense! How much did Shankar add to 2.0? You are way off here. As you have gone into personal taste of films. Flipping from taste to top grossers to streaks…any debate is possible. Stick to 1 and I will respond in kind otherwise you’re point is a series of points most of which are linked to films or stars you like. Yes I like Aamir and his films too. Shoot me. Ghajini, 3 Idiots, Dhobi Ghat, Talaash, D3, PK, Dangal, SS have amassed 1500 Cr (no inflation taken into account)…thats an average of nearly 190Cr – HIGHER THAN AKSHAY’S HIGHEST GROSSER, so mathematically laws of physics need to be redefined for Akshay to score a higher average. Even here I am doing a disservice by including DG and SS as 2 feature length films of Aamir.
Worldwide gross will ballpark 5,000Cr – an average of 600Cr+. This is a NONSENSE debate.
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December 24, 2018 at 7:00 AM
“First of all, if we count Dhobi ghat and SS and Talash, out of 7 releases this decade, 4 were losses/disasters” – DG : Flop Talaash : Average, D3 : Super Hit, Dangal : Mega Hit, SS : Semi Hit, TOH : Flop. 7 films, 2 flops not 4. Get your facts right. Hirani did 335 with Ranbir because Aamir’s presence elevated Hirani from a LRM Super Hit level to a 3I all time level & then stedied the ship through PK. Precisely why Aamir can deliver a record grosser like Dangal even with a niche film with no masala elements & songs.
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December 24, 2018 at 7:03 AM
You are the one totally missing the point, and I have been writing a clean languague without any insults. Try that. Its truly laughworthy to add the 7-8 last movies of x actor and say its the same irrespective if they came the same year or a period of 10 years. Did Aamir earn these 1500cr during 2 years period?
You cant compare apples to oranges. Why not add last 25 movies of Akshay and Aamir and then say average? I know right, its not fair 😉
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December 24, 2018 at 7:11 AM
Go back to the start and inflation adjust everything as you just changed the terms of the debate again. Going back 25 films for Aamir I’d include 90’s films which is a joke.
Even here consider the washouts of Akshay and you will not WIN. Inflation adjusted or not (I suspect).
If you want to play such a game – go WW and SS alone covers 8 Akshay WW films, Dangal some 15! By the time you finish you’ll realise Akshay will have to work into his 80’s at the current pace!
Basically you want Akshay #1 – I get it. Chalo, I said it. He’s number 1, now go away and torture someone else.
How many blockbusters does Akshay have in 26 years?
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December 24, 2018 at 7:16 AM
The only reason I said 25 movies, is because you counted Aamir last 8 movies and during that period of time Akshay delivered 25movies. My point is you cant compare like that.
Anyways, I know its frustraing being an Aamir fan, he wont be in cinemas for 3-4y, go and take out your frustration somewhere else.
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December 24, 2018 at 7:31 AM
Ok last 25 films from BOI
Aamir – Aatank Hi Aatank (1995) to TOH = 2008Cr.
Akshay – Thank you (2011) to 2.0 = 2139Cr.
So basically you need creativity to win. And the tipping point is 2.0. So 6 weeks ago you had no such debate and 1 film gives you this bragging rights?
That too Aamir has all-time grossers like RH, Ghajini, 3 Idiots, D3, PK and Dangal. Akshay’s got 0.
The list of opening records, Aamir has close to 10, Akshay has 1.
Aamir has 6 HGOTY to Akshay’s 0.
Aamir has 5 HGOAT to 0 for Akshay. Aamir has 4 flops to Akshay’s 8.
What NONSENSE is this?
The only thing you have is frequency. And if you want ratings/quality go to IMDB to get annihilation.
Disingenuous debate as I have to exclude some 23 years of inflation to favour Akshay. And I exclude one film, Akshay’s last 2.0 and Aamir is ahead! Sounds like you wanted 25 films just for this!
Forget overseas as that will just be rubbing it in.
I would surprised if Akshay’s films in total in overseas (100+) earn more than Aamir’s in overseas at total (30+) including or excluding China.
In fact China alone will probably outgross all of Akshay’s earnings overseas.
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December 24, 2018 at 8:20 PM
Jay, you are missing Dil which was also HGOTY in 1990. So Aamir has 7 HGOTY.
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December 24, 2018 at 8:26 PM
The question was only about Aamir’s last 25 films Vs Akshay’s and Dil isn’t in the list for Aamir hence it’s exclusion.
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December 24, 2018 at 6:45 AM
I think Akshay Kumar, on pure BO record of last couple of years is probably ahead of SRK right now.
SRK may need to completely re-invent himself. The age-old formula is not working for him anymore.
But things may change quickly. Next few years are going to be interesting especially taking into account the way this year panned out.
Aamir and Salman are still way ahead of everyone IMO. In Aamir’s case it’s not one flop with TOH that will hurt him. It’s lack of releases after TOH. If his next film releases in 3 or 4 years, then there is a vacuum out there. In Salman’s case, his position may be affected by a couple of under-performers right after Race 3.
The young guns might jump in if they build on this year instead of doing a Hrithik.
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December 24, 2018 at 6:53 AM
Agree completely. I am not hating on Akshay’s record at all. I’ve said whether is ahead of SRK or not is debatable but he is not close to Salman or Aamir.
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December 24, 2018 at 7:53 AM
Age has caught up already with all 4 of these 50+ dudes. Expecting them to do a Rajnikanth is a bit much, due to various reasons, but chiefly that Bwood audience is far too diverse and deep to be kept captive a la Tamil cinema. IMHO, there are hardly 2-3 yrs left in the tanks of these guys to actually play central characters.
Think of this as a race which all 4, alongwith another 5-6 contemporaries, started 25-30 yrs ago, when each of them was a greenhorn in their low 20s. Out of that batch of the post Bachchan 90s, only these 4 have proven to be a ‘lambi race ka ghoda’. Most all of their contemporaries fell by the wayside, with barring only a Devgan just walking briskly far far behind them. At various stages of this race, a different guy has seemed to be ahead and sprinting. But as the years have progressed, the stark differences in approach/strategy/placement etc have started becoming more distinct.
Back in the NG days, I had once stated that after 3I, AK had pulled even with SRK, and that the days of the lone superstar that rules Bwood are done and dusted. Sallu had not even started his second run yet. So I had not imagined then, that 10 yrs on, we will be looking at not just 2 but actually 4 guys that finish this long race out.
As the finish line nears, IMHO, the relevant debate will be about AK vs SK and their relative positioning in a photo-finish. Whether it be Sallu’s traditional starpower rule vs Aamir’s rule-bending paradigm-shifts. Whether it is desi footfalls vs global game-changing. We could keep debating.
However, the one singular surprise has been Akshay, who for a long while seemed to be destined to fall by the wayside. But who, IMHO, has over the last few years steadied his stride, rejuvenated and surpassed SRK now.
What portends in the next max 2-4 years is anyone’s guess. But, perhaps the more important point is that these 4 guys have actually positioned to FINISH this race. Being the only 4 ghodas that survived this long multi decade marathon, perhaps in their own minds, they already have crossed the finish line, and are reaping the just benefits and deserved rewards, while all the Fans fight it out everywhere.
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December 24, 2018 at 1:15 PM
Srk would be lucky to be top 5 now
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December 24, 2018 at 6:32 PM
“In Aamir’s case it’s not one flop with TOH that will hurt him. It’s lack of releases after TOH. If his next film releases in 3 or 4 years, then there is a vacuum out there. In Salman’s case, his position may be affected by a couple of under-performers right after Race 3.’
I agree 100% here and it reflects in my ranking.
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December 24, 2018 at 6:17 AM
Friends, mazaa aaya. 4 vs 1. Reminded me of GD days.
Merry Christmas to all. Have fun. And pls ignore anything i said which u did not like. I was setting the game for Santa. He will be bringing cheers now.
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December 24, 2018 at 6:37 AM
A superstar may come once or twice in a year. By the way Aamir usually comes once in a year with some exceptions. And Even srk is doing the same. Salman may follow. The burden and expectations on these 3 are tremedous unlike on an Akshay or Devgn. Their ranking at the top is justified due to this. Among the others only Ranbir carries this burden to some extent. Akshay can be called semi superstar along with Ranveer, Ranbir and Ajay Devgn. They will come next.
I am placing Srk along with Salman and Aamir just for the above reason. Srk might have given flops and underwhelming films but his star power is not defunct or dented much. Raees and DJ are proof.
Mega star Bachchan
Superstars The 3 Khans Most dangerous Zone to be in.
Semi superstars Akshay, Ajay Devgn, Ranbir, Ranveer, Varun in that order. Dangerous Zone to be in.
Tiger, JA, Khurana are at the most stars. No one cares if their films fail.
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December 24, 2018 at 8:12 AM
Bachchan is the only Mega star in Hindi cinema thus far along with Dilip Kumar. The Khans’, Khanna, Dev Anand, Dharmendra etc are Super stars while Sunny, Akshay, Ajay, Hrithik, Anil Kapoor, Vinod Khanna etc are just stars. JA, Tiger etc are not even in the picture for now. They’re just popular personalities among fragments of the audience, not stars by any means.
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December 24, 2018 at 6:59 AM
According to a report published in Peepingmoon, SRK has finally said yes for Don 3. The report suggests, “Farhan (Akhtar) and his team were working on the script of Don 3 for the last one and a half years. They have finally locked the script and believe me; it’s going to be the best of the franchise. Don 3 will have a completely different storyline, unlike Don 2 which was the continuation of the first part.”
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December 24, 2018 at 8:10 AM
SRK will not learn, will he? Instead of trying to re-invent himself, he seems caught in a time warp.
Actors like Salman and Akshay were way behind him 10 years back. When the going got tough, they re-invented themselves. Salman went from comedies and love stories to action films. Akshay went from action films in the 90s to comedies and then to content based social films recently. Even Devgan managed to re-invent himself to survive.
The last Don had a plot even more silly that Race 3’s.
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December 24, 2018 at 8:52 AM
I doubt this story. Farhan and SRK can’t be so friendly considering KGF and Zero clashed. I’m not sure what kind of directors would be interested now.
I would go for a complete debutant who is not interested or a fan of SRK or his history. If you see Big B he has gone with new, fresh ideas a lot in this innings. Ultimately you need a director who can say no! And one who doesn’t mind staying in shabby surroundings and not these expensive lavish ones that Master speaks off.
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December 24, 2018 at 7:39 AM
Why did we forget ‘ Sonu ki …..’ in the ratings? I am sure Kartik Aryan will be somewhere at the top before Aamir
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December 24, 2018 at 7:42 AM
Latha for sarcasm you get 10/10.
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December 24, 2018 at 6:31 PM
sarcasm fails when it gets over implied. 🙂
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December 24, 2018 at 8:05 AM
https://www.firstpost.com/entertainment/bollywood/ghajini-turns-10-how-aamir-khan-starrer-married-scale-with-concept-to-give-indian-cinema-its-first-100-cr-film-5762901.html
Celebrating 10 years of Ghajini, the first 100 Cr film. Although I detest this movie personally, there’s no denying that this is a real “gamechanger” in the true sense (unlike some Akshay fanatics on this forum might claim). Must be frustrating being an Akshay fan considering that even 10 years later, 100 Cr is still the success yardstick for most of your idol’s films 😉
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December 24, 2018 at 8:15 AM
Sarcasm apart, I am unable to understand this ranking based on BO results not just by Naveen but by anyone.
Do people go to watch a movie based on its budget? If yes, then no actors who do low budget films should be in the list. Also then the ratings should be based on gross collections irrespective of budget.
Is it based on the movie making profits? Then it should be based on ROI as the hit/ super hit classification seems to be dubious
Is it the opening day figures? Does genre play a factor?
And then there is overseas collections which for a long time was used to prop up SRK’s stardom. Now convieniently it becomes irrelevant
If Aamir had had a release in 2019, it would have been interesting to see how it would have opened.
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December 24, 2018 at 8:20 AM
Opening is a combination of star value, production value, lead actress, director’s image, genre, trailer etc etc. So yes, indeed this star ranking is preposterous. Star power is completely based on movie collections and footfalls (irrespective of budget), that too over a period of at least 10-15 years of work.
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December 24, 2018 at 8:24 AM
It’s actually boredom that results in my responses. Actually people who are vested in lies deserve such responses.
There are no official rankings by anyone, so we rely on Naveen to give us a clear picture.
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December 24, 2018 at 8:32 AM
Correction : At least 10-15 years of “diverse” work. Not just flogging the dead horse to fill up coffers like SRK’s late 90’s ad early 00’s romance spree or Salman’s recent masala spree (which include remakes and sequels at most times).
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December 24, 2018 at 9:18 AM
I missed this review on KGF.
https://www.hindustantimes.com/regional-movies/kgf-chapter-1-movie-review-yash-s-movie-about-goldmine-mafia-burns-bright/story-bWBDTJIQ7wYP2LxvQCZBWJ.html
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December 24, 2018 at 9:20 AM
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December 24, 2018 at 9:53 AM
https://www.addatoday.com/2018/12/zero-4th-day-1st-monday-collection.html?m=1
Single digits for sure.
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December 24, 2018 at 9:55 AM
Oh my god!
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December 24, 2018 at 10:01 AM
Not a huge surprise. It’s expected number. Xmas day will be wasted this year, one of the first times since long time.
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December 24, 2018 at 10:08 AM
It is unrealistic to expect a Dangal or TZH every XMas.
Padmaavat was denied this luxury. Perhaps 2.0?
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December 24, 2018 at 10:14 AM
Sanju also could have used this time but it would have been too late.
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December 24, 2018 at 10:25 AM
TOH and Zero should have swapped dates. Both still would have flopped. But as Zero is a romance film it fits the bill of previous SRK Diwali films and TOH is more fun adventure film that could have been aimed at children over Xmas.
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December 24, 2018 at 10:37 AM
Merry Christmas SS and enjoy the holiday season. Wishing everyone a Happy New Year.
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December 24, 2018 at 10:53 AM
Santa trying to lift falling US mkt 🙂 ha ha sp lost 600 pts in 3 months! 2950 to 2350+
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December 24, 2018 at 11:48 AM
We have a modi of our own here taking the country down, can’t wait for 2020.
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December 24, 2018 at 1:17 PM
Thanks much Jay.. the same to you.. and everyone else here..
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December 24, 2018 at 10:54 AM
I should sue koimoi.com lol I brought these tweets up a couple days ago now they have a article about it
https://www.koimoi.com/bollywood-news/shah-rukh-khan-vs-salman-khan-is-this-great-war-of-stardom-becoming-one-sided/
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December 24, 2018 at 11:52 AM
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December 24, 2018 at 11:58 AM
Oh my god!
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December 24, 2018 at 12:22 PM
It’s just a few hours only. But would be quite spectacular if TOH took opening slot in China. First ever indian film to open at #1 in any overseas market? That too one of the biggest flops ever? Haha this is hilarious! You can’t script such things!
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December 24, 2018 at 12:31 PM
SS opened at no.1 in China and was no.1 for 10 days consecutively or so.Dangal and PK both opened at no.2.
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December 24, 2018 at 12:32 PM
Ah okay, I didn’t know Aamir had those bragging rights already!
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December 24, 2018 at 12:38 PM
YRF and Bachchan will be happy. And also VKA.
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December 24, 2018 at 1:00 PM
Saw Badhaai Ho – It is decent one time watch..I think it is really funny till midway..but resolution and second half was very simplistic. I liked the setting of the movie..the characters. I probably needed more drama in second half.
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December 24, 2018 at 1:41 PM
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December 24, 2018 at 2:29 PM
Spacey released a video on YouTube Monday, titled “Let Me Be Frank,” which appeared to criticize the #MeToo movement in a “House of Cards”-inspired monologue as his former character Frank Underwood.
“Conclusions can be so deceiving,” he says in the video. “Miss me?”
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December 24, 2018 at 3:14 PM
This must be the Rakesh Sharma movie. It’s good that Siddharth Roy Kapoor and Ronnie Screwvala decided not to loose their 200 crore investment. It’s good for SRK too, he should just do a small <50 crore budget film and release it on a solo non-holiday date. SRK should first work his way to hitting 100 crore, and then soon enough he can break the Akshay barrier of 130 crores.
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December 24, 2018 at 6:24 PM
PHATA POSTER NIKLAA ZERO 😀
When Aamir Khan called up Vidhu Vinod Chopra and said ‘Tu meri party mein meri baja raha hai’Entertainment
Updated Dec 24, 2018 | 20:26 IST | Pooja Nayak
Vidhu Vinod Chopra just made a brutally honest confession about the reason behind Aamir Khan and the ‘so-called’ superstars’ box office debacle in 2018
Let’s just say 2018 has been really disappointing for the Khans and with that we are talking about all the three superstars, Shah Rukh Khan, Salman Khan and Aamir Khan. The trio, who until last year were considered as the box office kings, unfortunately couldn’t win over the audience this year. Zero, Race 3, Thugs Of Hindostan all three underperformed while small budget films like Raazi, Stree, Badhai Ho emerged as surprise hits with some amazing performances by Rajkummar Rao, Ayushmann Khurranna, Vicky Kaushal. So does this mean the Khans have lost their magic?
Vidhu Vinod Chopra, who is coming up with a film called Ek Ladki Ko Dekha Toh Aisa Laga starring Anil Kapoor, Sonam Kapoor, Rajkummar Rao, Juhi Chawla, decided to share his point of view on this during a recent media interaction as he said, “The first thing is that the script should be written devoid of big stars. The trouble is that when you start thinking that okay, this is the story I am going to do for this guy, that is when you start making compromises. Which is why I think the disaster is hitting you all in the faces right now because it’s not a script, it becomes a vehicle for a star and when it becomes a vehicle for a star, it ceases to be a script. So write a story and then look at the actor. I didn’t write Ek Ladki Ko Dekha Toh Aisa Laga for Anil Kapoor. I wrote the film and I then said, Anil is the best choice for this role and then I called him. I think all the so-called stars must realise that the script comes first and then comes anything.”
Stating how he had also warned Aamir Khan about the same during Dangal, he added, “I said it at Dangal success party…Someone asked me there sir Aamir No. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 and I was like what 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. It’s because of the script that the film has done well. Even if Hrithik was there in this film, it would have worked well but if made horribly then it wouldn’t work at all. Aamir called me later and he was like yaar ‘tu meri party mein meri baja raha hai’ Now see what happened? Ask him (Aamir) only what happened. So what I said that day was true right?”
Do you agree with Vidhu Vinod Chopra?
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December 24, 2018 at 6:27 PM
Yes, ofcourse.
Nothing to disagree here. Of course Script tops everything. 2018’s successes are ample proof of it.
Give a bad script and with biggest of stars, audience will still slap on the face.
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December 24, 2018 at 6:28 PM
“‘tu meri party mein meri baja raha hai’ ”
I cannot think of any other star saying this. Aamir tussi great ho !!!
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December 24, 2018 at 8:36 PM
Akki to khud ki baja raha hai
https://in.style.yahoo.com/akshay-kumar-more-apos-canadian-112534183.html
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December 25, 2018 at 1:45 AM
“Which is why I think the disaster is hitting you all in the faces right now because it’s not a script, it becomes a vehicle for a star and when it becomes a vehicle for a star, it ceases to be a script. So write a story and then look at the actor. I didn’t write Ek Ladki Ko Dekha Toh Aisa Laga for Anil Kapoor. I wrote the film and I then said, Anil is the best choice for this role and then I called him. I think all the so-called stars must realise that the script comes first and then comes anything.”
Vidhu Vinod Chopra is right but he is seriously delusional about his capabilities. Agar aisa tha to baaki “written” picturein teri disaster kyu hai be bsdk?
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December 25, 2018 at 2:22 AM
Ha this was the ACTUAL irony here! Barring Parinda the only gift from VVC to Bollywood is Raju Hirani. VVC is arrogance personified!
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December 25, 2018 at 5:14 AM
He is full of himself. But he isn’t a bad filmmaker. Not commercially successful, too Hollywood-y for his own good, thinks he is Coppola’s soul brother or something, but not bad as a filmmaker.
He has made some good films that could stand on their own.
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December 24, 2018 at 6:30 PM
It’s shaping up to be a pretty bleak holiday season for Steve Carell and Robert Zemeckis after “Welcome to Marwen” flopped last weekend in spectacular fashion. The $40 million drama about a man’s attempts to overcome his PTSD is one of the biggest bombs of the year, debuting to a disastrous $2.4 million from 1,191 theaters. It stands to lose between $45 million to $50 million when marketing and distribution costs are taken into account, according to rival studio executives, an embarrassing result for both Carell and Zemeckis.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/news/steve-carell’s-‘welcome-to-marwen’-to-lose-dollar50-million-at-box-office/ar-BBRo881?li=BBnbfcL&ocid=mailsignout
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December 24, 2018 at 6:32 PM
The long Christmas weekend is underway with Aquaman, Warner Bros.’s latest entry into their DC Extended Universe, topping the charts, on its way to a $100+ million five-day opening. Meanwhile, Disney’s Mary Poppins Returns and Paramount’s Bumblebee finished in runner-up positions over a weekend that played relatively similarly to the same weekend last year, though given the holiday timing its hard to make an apples-to-apples comparison.
Performing almost exactly as expected, WB’s release of Aquaman easily took the #1 spot at the weekend box office with an estimated $67.4 million over the course of the three-day weekend and a cume that now stands at $72.1 million once you include the $4.7 million in grosses from pre-weekend Amazon Prime showings. The film is now expected to deliver around $105 million over the course of its first five days, which ends on Christmas Day, routinely the busiest day at the box office all year. The film received an “A-” CinemaScore from opening day audiences and played to an opening weekend crowd that was 55% male and 58% aged 25 years or older.
Overall, the performance ranks as one of the top ten December openings of all-time, though it is sixth largest debut within WB’s DC Extended Universe. That last note, however, will be an interesting stat to watch as Aquaman has enjoyed some of the best reviews of the franchise and audiences seem to be enjoying it to the tune of an 86% audience rating on RottenTomatoes.
https://www.boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=4469&p=.htm
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December 24, 2018 at 8:34 PM
Boi
Zero is looking at a reasonable Monday with collections in the 9-10 crore nett range on Monday. It will be a 45-50% drop which is a little high for a film which under performed over the weekend but then it could have been much worse for a film which did not really trend over the weekend. There was also the factor of the holiday on Tuesday helping the film in the evening.
Surprisingly its still UP and Bihar holding best. Some centers in these parts only dropped 30% from the first day and you probably have to go back to Hum Tumhare Hain Sanam in 2002 when a Shahrukh Khan film out performed in these parts compared to the metros. Even the single screens are holding well across UP and Bihar. The collections are also held better in Delhi NCR and big cities of East Punjab.
The total collections of the film so far are in the 64 crore nett range and there should be jump on Wednesday due to the holiday but as film has not been really been accepted it will not be that big 60-70% jump which can happen for a film which is not doing huge collections.
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December 24, 2018 at 10:36 PM
10 crores? That would be surprising
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December 24, 2018 at 10:36 PM
Some wacky stuff here.
https://scroll.in/article/906871/from-white-christmas-to-santa-went-crazy-an-activist-lawyers-list-of-controversial-xmas-songs
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December 24, 2018 at 10:43 PM
https://www.indiatoday.in/trending-news/story/shah-rukh-khan-film-zero-destroyed-on-social-media-see-the-most-savage-reviews-1416427-2018-12-24
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December 24, 2018 at 10:45 PM
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December 24, 2018 at 10:54 PM
Marcus
“Whacky has different meanings to different people. But for viewings, the writing has to be”
Agree. But one thing is certain. What is wacky or whacky is not generic. But generic becomes Meta when the reviewer wants to do so. As is happening with Zero with some viewers and reviewers. Some are finding it Meta and some are finding it too generic. Srk in a lovestory is the most generic thing one can think of. But some are finding it Meta allover.
Meta is in the minds of the viewer just like beauty is in the eyes of the beholder.
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December 24, 2018 at 11:02 PM
Exactly.
Actually for whacky stuff we will never know for certain what meta the writer intended. We will individually interpret it as ‘di-verse’ based on our own preferences, bias and self interest. But our ancient texts insists on ‘multi-verse’ existence, but hey whats the scientific proof?
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December 24, 2018 at 11:09 PM
When someone gives some thing Meta tag, it becomes holy cow.
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December 24, 2018 at 11:14 PM
True, but that holds only for the religious-minded.
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December 24, 2018 at 11:37 PM
https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/time/
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December 24, 2018 at 11:32 PM
Take the example of a tree. For ordinary souls it is just a tree. But for some it is not the tree but it is the roots that are interesting. For that you have to study botany. A tree is too generic and it is the roots that make the tree interesting. A tree maybe short or tall but it does not matter. Without roots the tree will not be there. Without the womb there wont be living being.
Take a tic tic clock. It has meanings. For many, it just reminds them what to do at what time. But to those who are on death bed or about to be hanged and know about their impending fate, the clock looks like Yamraj impatiently waiting to get them. And for students writing an exam, the clock ticking away is like making their hand race with their minds. For philosophers, it denotes so many things. Clock is time. The B-theory of time is the name given to one of two positions regarding philosophy of time. B theorists argue that the flow of time is an illusion. The past, present and future are equally real, and that time is tenseless. This would mean that temporal becoming is not an objective feature of reality.
Clock can break down but time will not.
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December 24, 2018 at 11:42 PM
That is an apt philosophical meta for an often used tree data structure in software.
Let me give another one. Every moment we live, r-values are continuously created on-the-fly and getting lost in the time-space warp. A coder has created a reference variable to capture one such r-value. But he cant assign r-values to normal reference variables. So he creates a constant reference that can ‘refer’ to the r-value. BUT to the reader, there is no constant reference due to ‘di-versity’ principle. So, he/she needs to create a non-constant reference variable that serves as an alias to the constant reference that the writer had created. What it implies, is that the reader is not capturing the r-value anymore, but the writer’s l-value.
All this can get v confusing and create controversies. But thats why its whacky in the first place!
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December 24, 2018 at 11:45 PM
Very interesting. So even software coding is Meta. I will try to go deep into this.
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December 24, 2018 at 11:49 PM
Just think about it – variables (named locations), references (aliases), pointers (address locations) and namespaces along with scope resolution operator.
What is memory mangement in coding except for it all being ‘meta’?
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December 24, 2018 at 11:51 PM
“What it implies, is that the reader is not capturing the r-value anymore, but the writer’s l-value.”
This is a significant observation.
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December 24, 2018 at 11:42 PM
Discussions of the nature of time, and of various issues related to time, have always featured prominently in philosophy, but they have been especially important since the beginning of the 20th Century. This article contains a brief overview of some of the main topics in the philosophy of time — Fatalism; Reductionism and Platonism with respect to time; the topology of time; McTaggart’s arguments; The A Theory and The B Theory; Presentism, Eternalism, and The Growing Universe Theory; time travel; and the 3D/4D controversy — together with some suggestions for further reading on each topic, and a bibliography.
Note: This entry does not discuss the consciousness, perception, experience, or phenomenology of time. An historical overview and general presentation of the various views is available in the entry on temporal consciousness. Further coverage can be found in the SEP entry on the experience and perception of time. For those interested specifically in phenomenological views, see the entries on Husserl (Section 6), and Heidegger (Section 2: Being and Time).
https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/time/
Consider the question of whether time should be represented by a line without a beginning. Aristotle has argued (roughly) that time cannot have a beginning on the grounds that in order for time to have a beginning, there must be a first moment of time, but that in order to count as a moment of time, that allegedly first moment would have to come between an earlier period of time and a later period of time, which is inconsistent with its being the first moment of time. (Aristotle argues in the same way that time cannot have an end.)
This part of discussion comes under Topology of Time.
Very interesting.
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December 24, 2018 at 11:56 PM
For individual beings time is linear. Birth is the beginning and death is the end if we dont believe in rebirths but just consider the present one.
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December 24, 2018 at 10:59 PM
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December 24, 2018 at 11:14 PM
Merry Christmas everyone.
Aside zero being a disaster was good to avoid but cinema buff should see antariksham9000 which was also released last week and with clichés is still a great watch.
Being from North but have to admit after watching this telgu movie its Bollywood that has completely lost it due to these 40plus haggards calling it with fake re_innovation and hardly represent anything indian and hell bent on subversion.
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December 25, 2018 at 12:02 AM
10 Years of Ghajini: Analyzing the marketing strategy of this blockbuster and also celebrating 10 years of 100 Crore Club!
ByFenil SetaDec 25, 2018 – 8:00 am IST
http://www.bollywoodhungama.com/news/features/10-years-ghajini-analyzing-marketing-strategy-blockbuster-also-celebrating-10-years-100-crore-club/
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December 25, 2018 at 12:04 AM
While the final figures are yet to be compiled, ZERO is expected to have grossed approx. 5 mil. USD [Rs. 35.13 cr.] in its opening weekend in the overseas markets. ZERO has emerged as the *fifth highest opening weekend grosser of 2018 in overseas*. It is also Shah Rukh Khan’s *11th highest All Time Opening Weekend overseas grosser*.
http://www.bollywoodhungama.com/news/box-office-overseas/zero-collects-approx-5-mil-usd-rs-35-13-cr-in-overseas/
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December 25, 2018 at 12:06 AM
Another Khan film underperformed and bit the dust. 2018 will be remembered as the year of Khans demise as star performers. Akshay overperformed the 3 Khans in a year for the first time and young brigade led by Ranbir and Ranveer took the mantle from aging Khans. From now on we may see Khans as one of the many stars competing with one another, the same way Amitabh used to in late 90s. Better they choose roles that suit their age and stature otherwise they will leave a pathetic legacy from 2019.
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December 25, 2018 at 12:16 AM
http://www.bollywoodhungama.com/news/features/fatima-sana-shaikh-speaks-link-rumours-thugs-hindostan-co-star-aamir-khan/
Speaking about the rumours, Fatima Sana Shaikh recently opened up to Bollywood Hungama. When asked how she deals with the constant link ups with her Dangal co-stars Aamir Khan and Aparshakti Khurrana, Fatima said, “It’s very weird. My mother keeps on watching TV and the other day she showed me ‘Your photo has come’ and I was like ‘Read the headline to know what’s written.’ I used to get disturbed and I felt like I should explain myself. If someone accuses you of something, the first instinct is to come out and tell, ‘Listen, why do you think it is like this?’ If you are an aggressive person, you will attack. If you are a submissive person, even then you will talk about it. But, now, I do not feel the need to explain because I feel no matter what you do, people will talk about you. “Logo ka kaam hai bolna woh bolenge.” No point getting affected by it. People, who write these things, are the people who will meet me nicely. I know it’s their job but I hope they sleep well (laughs).
Fatima Sana Shaikh further talked about how relationship is with the two star even after the speculation around her relationship. She said, “Aparshakti and AK are just too special to me. Why should I get affected by it?”
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December 25, 2018 at 12:18 AM
https://www.addatoday.com/2018/12/zero-tuesday-5th-day-collection-update.html
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December 25, 2018 at 12:21 AM
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December 25, 2018 at 1:13 AM
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December 25, 2018 at 1:13 AM
cutting on indian box office:
kgf on kannada , antarakshim in telgu and to a small extent maari(masala) in tamil dominating in week of zero covering indian authentic theme and here we have director who is known for it (small north indian sensibility) for it have been reduced to caricature covering new york
aside in telgu cinema in recent time both goodachari and geetha govindam where extremely good
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December 25, 2018 at 1:28 AM
i think today is the last day for zero to put up some respected nos. from tom. it will be below 5 cr per day or even less….
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December 25, 2018 at 1:52 AM
It’s we stop giving mediocre films their due by discussing their trending and prospects. Even if TOH does All time Blockbuster business in China, fact is it’s an average film which is no great shakes. History isn’t going to remember this film fondly except maybe hundreds of comments on blogs such as these
Tumbbad remains the best Hindi film this year, and I seriously think it should’ve done more. Going by the trend this year, what we’re looking at in future is films such as these making a huge mark in different mediums other than only movie theatres
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December 25, 2018 at 2:02 AM
I”t’s we stop giving mediocre films their due by discussing their trending and prospects. Even if TOH does All time Blockbuster business in China, fact is it’s an average film which is no great shakes. History isn’t going to remember this film fondly except maybe hundreds of comments on blogs such as these.”
That is how bo thread works. Cant help it. Especially when a big star is involved. His is fans and detractors will also be involved.
The fun element will be lost if we discuss only niche films.
As for myself, I am more interested in the fate of Toh in China even if it underperforms there. And then I will be interested in KGF, Manikarnika, Simmba etc.
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December 25, 2018 at 2:14 AM
Not in the films themselves but in their BO performances.
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December 25, 2018 at 2:27 AM
@Sanjana – When anyone works on a new tech, there are challenges u dont face until u start a beta run in production scale. Scaling wide has its own set of issues, which later helps to make the tech sharper and useful. Feedback loop is essential. So initial ratings dont matter, but number of viewings do. Its like a publicity gimmick itself, but an essential experiment.
You know whats the take-away from Lucider’s pilot episode? Mindspace-Invasion can create films like Bird-Box. Such pseudo-apocalyptic imagination (without any explanation or understanding of the phenomena whatsoever) can hamper ur beta run immensely; making it a failure.
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December 25, 2018 at 3:19 AM
“The fun element will be lost if we discuss only niche films.”
Only niche films? How many have you seen discussing niche films here?
90% of discussion is BO related, maybe 5% on jayshah’s World Cups, and remaining on trailers or interviews.
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December 25, 2018 at 3:25 AM
Only this year we had some good niche movies achieving success. Which became popular too.
Otherwise it is a bleak picture. Overshadowed by big films.
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December 25, 2018 at 2:19 AM
https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/kevin-spacey-faces-felony-charge-for-alleged-sexual-assault-1967654?pfrom=home-lateststories
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December 25, 2018 at 2:22 AM
KGF Holds Strongly On Monday
Tuesday 25 December 2018 12.30 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
KGF held up very strongly on monday as it collected 13.75 crore nett on day four across India compared to the 16.50 crore nett on day one. The drop is under 20% and the drop is only in Karnataka where the film had a huge opening.
The hindi version has jumped around 45% from the first day which is a very strong trend especially for this type of film. It is trending like a HIT Hindi content film when it is actually a South action film that too from Kannada film industry which actually have no hope in the Hindi markets. Its not done well across all hindi markets but whatever it has done still ranges from good to decent because in some parts its near impossible to get the audience in for this type of film.
The dubbed films which have done well before did not look like South films which is a huge plus but this film did and has still managed collections. The crucial day for the film will be Friday and if that holds like content films do then this film will do very well.The approx four day figures of KGF are as follows.
Karnataka – 47,50,00,000
Hindi Markets – 12,00,00,000
Nizam / Andhra – 3,75,00,000
Tamil Nadu – 2,00,00,000
Kerala – 1,00,00,000
TOTAL – 66,25,00,000
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December 25, 2018 at 2:23 AM
This is bad news for Simmba in Bangalore.
Srinidhi Shetty versus Rohit Shetty.
Let us see the drama.
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December 25, 2018 at 2:26 AM
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December 25, 2018 at 2:34 AM
This song is going to be rehashed for Cheat India.
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December 25, 2018 at 2:44 AM
The original isnt patented, right? So, its a free pass in bollywood. But the result may as well be a big Zero.
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December 25, 2018 at 2:50 AM
Ten years of Ghajini: The film that made an average Indian a number-crunching trade pundit
Remake of a Tamil psychological thriller (itself inspired by Memento), A.R. Murugadoss-directed Ghajini is the inventor of the elusive Rs 100 crore club. It made leading man Aamir Khan a box-office magnet. But does the film hold up well today? A quick glance at its legacy.
Another comparison was if the film departed from Memento (2000), which has acquired a cult following over the years. Explaining Memento’s non-linear, timeline-bursting narrative, filmmaker Christopher Nolan had once said, “We tried to put the audience through the head of the protagonist to experience his uncertainty, confusion and paranoia. He’s an unreliable narrator, so we are seeing the world through the distorted point of view of this one particular person.” Nolan has famously described Memento as “film noir.” On the other hand, Ghajini is a love story gone wrong. It has been whittled down for the Indian taste. Murugadoss spent a lot of time building the romance between Aamir and Asin and the action set pieces instead of focusing on the philosophical and psychological elements that has made Memento a classic of the genre. In other words, Memento (adapted from a short story by Nolan’s brother) was faithful to its concept, Ghajini to Aamir Khan.
https://indianexpress.com/article/entertainment/bollywood/ten-years-of-ghajini-aamir-khan-5508550/
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December 25, 2018 at 3:03 AM
Aamir buzzed his hair for the second remake of Nolan’s film as a pub gimmick.
But here is some ‘meta’-notes on the dev of original … from ‘wiki’ (*so it may be an edited article with some convenient modifications from reality*)
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In July 1996, Christopher and Jonathan took a cross-country road trip from Chicago to Los Angeles, as Christopher was relocating his home to the West Coast. During the drive, Jonathan pitched the story for the film, who responded enthusiastically to the idea. After they arrived in Los Angeles, Jonathan left for Washington, D.C., to finish college at Georgetown University. Christopher repeatedly asked Jonathan to send him a first draft, and after a few months, Jonathan complied. Two months later, Christopher came up with the idea to tell the film backwards, and began to work on the screenplay. Jonathan wrote the short story simultaneously, and they continued to correspond, sending each other subsequent revisions of their respective works. Christopher initially wrote the script as a linear story, and then would “go back and reorder it the way it is on screen to check the logic of it.”
Jonathan’s short story, titled Memento “Mori”, is radically different from Christopher’s film, although it maintains the same essential elements. In Jonathan’s version, Leonard is instead named Earl and is a patient at a mental institution. As in the film, his wife was killed by an anonymous man, and during the attack on his wife, Earl lost his ability to create new long-term memories. Like Leonard, Earl leaves notes to himself and has tattoos with information about the killer. However, in the short story, Earl convinces himself through his own written notes to escape the mental institution and murder his wife’s killer. Unlike the film, there is no ambiguity that Earl finds and kills the anonymous man.
In July 1997, Nolan’s (who?) girlfriend Emma Thomas showed his screenplay to Aaron Ryder, an executive for Newmarket Films. Ryder said the script was, “perhaps the most innovative script I had ever seen”, and soon after, it was optioned by Newmarket and given a budget of $4.5 million. Pre-production lasted seven weeks, during which the main shooting location changed from Montreal, Quebec to Los Angeles, California, to create a more realistic and noirish atmosphere for the film.
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December 25, 2018 at 3:13 AM
https://twitter.com/aamir_khan/status/1077476972584886278
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December 25, 2018 at 2:55 AM
All in all, one thing to be mentioned above is the fact that this movie could only surpass the collections of Aamir & Salman’s flop movies. The rest are the numbers that the movie failed to collect even on its 2nd day!
Also, for those who consider Secret Superstar as an Aamir Khan film, the movie on its 5th day being Monday (also released on Thursday) made 3.05 crores, and yes, that’s a number that Zero fortunately has surpassed.
https://www.koimoi.com/box-office/zero-box-office-day-4-vs-1st-monday-collections-of-salman-khan-aamir-khans-last-3-films/
Meta movie ka kamaal.
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December 25, 2018 at 2:56 AM
http://www.bollywoodhungama.com/news/features/exclusive-rohit-shetty-reveals-will-make-debut-digital-platform-showrunner/
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December 25, 2018 at 3:00 AM
Zero dropped under 50% on Monday thanks to the holds in Delhi / UP, East Punjab and Bihar. The drops elsewhere were in the 50-60% range. The Monday collections were in the 9.50 crore nett range which takes the business of the film to 64 crore nett in four days.
The film only dropped 30% in Delhi / UP as it collected 3 crore nett against the 4.20 crore nett on day one. East Punjab and Bihar dropped 40%. But its a different story in Mumbai and South as collections came down 55% and even 60% in some centres. There is the Xmas holiday on Tuesday but it might not grow as it should on a the national holiday as the holiday is more effective in the Mumbai and South while its not so big in UP and Bihar.
The first week may do around 85 crore nett depending on how far it goes on Tuesday. There will be a drop post the Xmas holiday.. The first four day figures for Zero are as follows.
Friday – 19,35,00,000 apprx
Saturday – 17,00,00,000 apprx
Sunday – 18,25,00,000 apprx
Monday – 9,50,00,000 apprx
TOTAL – 64,10,00,000 apprx
Boi.
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December 25, 2018 at 3:28 AM
Kedarnath Has Strongest Trend On Third Monday
Tuesday 25 December 2018 13.30 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
Kedarnath had the strongest trend on Monday of all films running as its collections showed growth of 65-70% from its Friday numbers. The film has found appreciation and if the collections dont match the appreciattion its mainly down to a lackluster opening and then an abrupt end to its run due to new Xmas releases. The film dropped only 53% in its second week and it was a universal trend except Nizam / Andhra and even in third week the collections will come despite limited screens.
The film will cross the 65 crore nett mark today and there has been this fiasco with the reviews of Zero but this film shows even a film which is more towards content can still run with negativity from these so called reviewers. The public always has a better judgement and always will as its consolidated.
The collections of Kedarnath are as follows.
Week One – 41,86,00,000
Week Two – 19,74,00,000
Friday – 40,00,000 apprx
Saturday – 75,00,000 apprx
Sunday – 1,00,00,000 apprx
Monday – 70,00,000 apprx
Third Week – 2,85,00,000 apprx
TOTAL – 64,45,00,000 apprx
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December 25, 2018 at 3:32 AM
https://www.koimoi.com/box-office/box-office-salman-khans-1st-monday-collections-of-last-10-films-blockbuster-results/
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December 25, 2018 at 3:36 AM
https://www.rediff.com/movies/report/will-zero-be-another-srk-flop/20181225.htm
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December 25, 2018 at 3:41 AM
Rajinikanth’s ‘2.0’ has earned over 100 crore in Hindi, Tamil, and Telugu versions. The movie ‘2.0’ was released in theaters on November 29. In the film 2.0 (Robot 2.0), stars like Rajinikanth, Akshay Kumar, Amy Jackson, Adil Hussain and Sudhanshu Pandey are also in the lead roles. This is Akshay’s first film in South and he is in the role of villain who has made a budget of Rs 500-600 crores. In the film, Rajinikanth is in the role of a scientist and a robot. In the past, trade analyst Ramesh Bala gave an information about the film’s earnings, according to him, ‘2.0’ had earned 188 crores after three weeks.
https://khabar.ndtv.com/news/bollywood/2-0-box-office-collection-day-26-robot-2-0-rajinikanth-akshay-kumar-christmas-2-point-0-1967732
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December 25, 2018 at 4:04 AM
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December 25, 2018 at 4:07 AM
Akshay has accepted the script after 7th revision. 2020 Eid release.
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December 25, 2018 at 4:11 AM
That means Salman will have no Eid release.
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December 25, 2018 at 4:19 AM
Blockbuster!
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December 25, 2018 at 4:21 AM
Bhai yeh 7th revision kya hota hain? 7th standard mein 7 times fail hona? I am right on top….
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December 25, 2018 at 5:18 AM
Watched ZERO. What on earth they were smoking when made this film ? Neither like first half nor second. How difficult it is to make a simple film ? Anand tai’s strength is make simple film. What mess they were trying to make here ? All lead actors are bad but Anushka is weakest. If they wanted to make her disabled it is ok but most irritating part is her speech. Kam se kam speech ko clear rehane dete. There are thousand of wheel chair bound people who speak clearly. Finally WTF with this scientist angle ? This mars and all science talk killed the film. Why oh why they took this part in story ? Agar film simple rakhi hoti to kya pata chal jati. Though I didn’t liked any part but my wife and daughter enjoyed before interval part but second part really killed the film as I already said that science part was as boring as Modi’s spee nowadays.
PS- and one more thing about these kadels and rohit jaisawals of the world. The great philosopher Bob cristo once said it is better to have smart enemies then idiot chamchas or stooges. Before release they created false environment that ZERO is going to be a master piece and now they are hell bent to prove this is the biggest disaster in the history of bollywood. Neither are true.
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December 25, 2018 at 6:04 AM
Bob I agree with your last paragraph. The trade and certain clan that SRK has as support is actually harming him for many years. These people are giving him kudos in wrong instances instead of hurting his feelings. A bit of tough love is never harmful.
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December 25, 2018 at 11:25 AM
Did Jay satyam master Z or anjo see the movie..just getting back after holidays and not going to scroll through 3 BO threads..can someone point me to the links of their reviews.
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December 25, 2018 at 11:27 AM
AnJo has a review and has seen it.
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December 25, 2018 at 11:32 AM
Oh ya just saw it’s a post by itself..will read..guess movie was a goner at the BO on Friday itself..but BRs review was very positive and I was a bit curious to see what others thought of it
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December 25, 2018 at 11:33 AM
Well you’ll be surprised potentially. It’s a goner for sure but is dividing opinion so enjoy reading!
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December 25, 2018 at 11:27 AM
Naveen too…
Merry Christmas to everyone
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December 25, 2018 at 6:10 AM
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December 25, 2018 at 6:17 AM
28th Simmba release. China release of Toh. And Petta trailer release. And other events in between.
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December 25, 2018 at 6:34 AM
https://twitter.com/SirJadeja___/status/1077488018276143104
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December 25, 2018 at 6:41 AM
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December 25, 2018 at 6:45 AM
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December 25, 2018 at 6:47 AM
At the promotional event of his upcoming film Ek Ladki Ko Dekha Toh Aisa Laga, Rajkummar Rao was asked how he feels about the Khans – Shah Rukh Khan, Salman Khan and Aamir Khan – failing to create magic at the box office. “They are superstars nobody can touch them and there is a reason they are superstars. They are ruling for 30 years. Just because one or two films did not work, I still love them. I have respect for them,” he said.’
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December 25, 2018 at 6:48 AM
https://www.koimoi.com/box-office/kgf-box-office-countrywide-throws-a-pleasant-surprise-turns-out-to-be-a-pan-india-success/
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December 25, 2018 at 7:13 AM
“I reiterate Naveen’s random love for Salman, SRK is false pretense to antagonise Aamir fans. It’s profanity to just get Akshay to this position. He probably likes Salman and SRK but hates Aamir. So he befriends Salman and SRK fans to just provoke Aamir ones. But the goal is to promote Akshay Kumar!”
That means he is going roundabout way.
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December 25, 2018 at 7:37 AM
Apun direct bolta hai maalum… 😀
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December 25, 2018 at 7:42 AM
Prediction for Aamir Khan in 2019: Bad decisions leading to sheer waste of massive talent
If Aamir Khan has no release in 2019, he is likely to get knocked out of top 3 by year end. Only way he can survive now is when others fail to deliver. Then status quo remains.
For the sake of his emotional fans, i hope he does a quickie. Wonder why he did not sign any movie this year.
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December 25, 2018 at 7:51 AM
They are trying to underperform to revive aamir’s career. Hope they are successful.
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December 25, 2018 at 9:17 AM
17-Year-Old Girl, Lost In 2013 Kedarnath Floods, Reunites With Family
Chanchal had gone to Kedarnath on a pilgrimage with her parents when the tragedy struck, sweeping away her father, while her mother returned home after sometime.
https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/17-year-old-girl-lost-in-2013-kedarnath-floods-reunites-with-family-1967953?pfrom=home-topstories
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December 25, 2018 at 9:25 AM
https://www.addatoday.com/2018/12/zero-5th-day-tuesday-collection-early.html
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December 25, 2018 at 10:03 AM
Zero has held up better than expected…still a big flop though
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December 25, 2018 at 10:09 AM
Yes.
That Christmas promo song reminded me of Zoobi Zoobi.
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December 25, 2018 at 10:57 AM
It needs to hold tmr around 7 crores to have some sort of respectable total
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December 25, 2018 at 11:21 AM
It’s not getting to any kind of respectability here, unless one classifies 100Cr club as such. This is just suggesting it’s not a total washout performance.
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December 25, 2018 at 10:00 AM
can you believe this..there is a #PaidCriticTaranAdarsh hashtag trending with 56.6K tweets!!
Zero fans are having their revenge on TA..haha
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December 25, 2018 at 10:49 AM
Merry Christmas to Satyam and folks on Satyamshot!! Have a good enjoying day today!
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December 25, 2018 at 11:34 AM
This will endup with same total as Gold.
But difference is huge.
Gold-
2500 screens
Competition from more Commercial looking contender SMJ
Only One Holiday though a national holiday
Recovery – 95 -100 cr
BO – 105 -110 cr
Verdict – Average
Zero-
4300 screens
Solo Release
Festival Period
Recovery- 175-180 cr
BO appr – 110 cr
Verdict – Disaster, 45% investment loss
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December 25, 2018 at 11:39 AM
Correction-
Gold screen count – 3050
Zero screen count – 4380
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December 25, 2018 at 11:42 AM
Still 50% apprx more screen count and almost double distribution cost in more commercial viable project with no competition. And if it still does same. It is huge disaster.
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December 25, 2018 at 12:39 PM
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December 25, 2018 at 8:26 PM
Boi
Zero will do business in the 12-12.50 crore nett range as per early estimates which is around 30% better than Monday. The growth is less than normal for a national holiday but it is sort of expected as the film did not trend strongly over the weekend and the Monday number was pretty decent considering the weekend so some of the growth was baked into the Monday collection.
Also the best markets are UP and Bihar and Christmas is probably the weakest national holdiay in these parts and they have grown less than places like Bengal and South despite the film being liked best in UP and Bihar. The growth this Christmas day is generally less this year as films like Kedarnath and KGF which are doing much lower numbers and have potential for huge growth are also not showing that huge growth for a national holiday.
The collections of Zero till date are 76-77 crore nett and the big drop will come on Wednesday which will tell where week will end. The five day business is what it should have done over the weekend from that 19 crore nett start.
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December 25, 2018 at 8:41 PM
In share market analysis, we use lot of graphs on a daily basis or hourly basis. Or at the end of its run? Why not for bo performances too? Then comparisons will be much more easier between 2 films.
https://www.moneycontrol.com/stock-charts/relianceindustries/charts/RI
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December 25, 2018 at 10:14 PM
https://www.instagram.com/sharadmalhotra009/
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December 25, 2018 at 10:22 PM
http://english.entgroup.cn/boxoffice/cn/daily/
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December 25, 2018 at 10:25 PM
https://www.desimartini.com/news/martini-shots/listicles/5-top-bollywood-actors-and-their-younger-counterparts-in-bollywood-article72303.htm
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December 25, 2018 at 10:35 PM
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December 26, 2018 at 12:10 AM
Saw its trailer! Creepy as hell.
Looks to follow the same trajectory as Get Out, one of my favourite films from Jordan Peele.
In fact, this kind of horror is the need of the hour. We’ve had too much of cliche-ridden films such as the Conjuring Series and Annabelles of the world.
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December 25, 2018 at 10:41 PM
A part of me was ROTTING Away: Kangana Ranaut
Kangana Ranaut REVEALS WHY she chose to DIRECT portions of Manikarnika…
Monday, December 24, 2018 | 1:29:17 PM IST (+05:30 GMT)
By Bollywood Team
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Manikarnika: The Queen of Jhansi, is one movie that has been in news ever since it was announced. The period film stars Kangana Ranaut in the titular role and it is co-directed by Krish and Kangana, has substantial buzz surrounding its release, thanks to its mammoth scale and a mass-appealing subject.
The trailer of the movie has caught the attention of one and all people cannot stop raving about it.
Another thing that has been the talk of the town is that Kangana Ranaut has donned on the hat of co-director with this movie.
Kangana is one of the few actresses that we have in Bollywood that have carried the weight of the entire movie on her shoulders and emerged victoriously.
Her performance in movies such as Fashion, Queen and Tanu Weds Manu franchise has won her many accolades.
Talking about her experience as a director, Kangana says, “I always wanted to direct films. These days, you generally hear of directors wanting to be actors, and not the other way around. Even those actors who direct don’t really do it full-time.
They feel that they have got a certain amount of acclaim and popularity as actors, so why should they give that up and only direct films. It may sound strange, but I have never really identified with being an actress. It’s not my calling, direction is.”
She went on to elaborate on how comfortable she felt being a director, “It’s actually surprising even to me how comfortable I feel being a director on set, even when I am sweating buckets and am surrounded by 500 people and everyone’s screaming at the same time!
There’s something about directing a film that’s so gratifying, even though it’s a worker’s life. An actor is just one part of the whole orchestra of filmmaking and it kind of makes me feel inadequate, that I am not doing enough as a creative person”.
“It’s not that I don’t want to act in films with other directors I am doing Ashwiny’s (Iyer Tiwari) Panga and Prakash’s film (Kovelamudi, called Mental Hai Kya) right now. I like acting, but I always felt a part of me was dying somewhere because I wasn’t being utilized totally.
I felt like a part of me was rotting away because I wasn’t being able to express myself as a director. When I was just an actor on this film, I didn’t know what was happening with the rest of the film and it was frustrating.
A lot of mishaps happened on set I injured myself several times, I broke my forehead and I was worried about how I would take this forward as an actor. But when I got down to directing, there was no pressure there were only goals. For me, the director is the hero of a film and directing is my first love,” she added.
Kangana also mentioned that being just an actor in a movie is a relief as it is a small part of a huge canvas. She says, “Honestly, it’s actually a relief to just be an actor to be a small part of a huge canvas. Acting, for me, is actually like a holiday (laughs). I can sit prettily in my van and go out only when I am called for my shot, I don’t have to bother about anything else. When I was shooting Panga, I was so busy with the VFX of Manikarnika that I was constantly Facetiming with my team. Imagine how overrated actors are! I could actually do a full-fledged role as an actor and I had so much time that I did the entire VFX work of an epic film alongside!”
She added, “And yet, actors behave like they are carrying the burden of the world on their shoulders so, so overrated. Acting involves doing absolutely nothing and that kind of superficial involvement always hurt me.
I don’t come from a film family and I don’t have a platform set out for me where I can stand and make tall announcements like, ‘I want to be a director’. It’s happened organically. I still ask Prasoon Sir that what made him think I could direct when even I didn’t know I could do it.
Being an actor doesn’t interfere with what I want to do as a director and vice-versa. As an actor, I am happy to be a part of someone else’s vision. If you ask me whether the films I am doing as an actor stimulate me as a director, then the answer would be, ‘Not at all’.
What Ashwiny is doing with Panga is a reflection of who she is as a mother and a wife. I don’t know that world because I am not married and I don’t have children-related issues (smiles). Mental Hai Kya is a thriller, it’s a mad ride and as a director, thriller as a genre doesn’t excite me. But to be part of it as an actor is so gratifying”.
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December 26, 2018 at 12:34 AM
gayi bhains paani mai
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December 26, 2018 at 11:51 AM
Haha! Hindi makes better sense sometimes.
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December 25, 2018 at 10:44 PM
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December 25, 2018 at 10:53 PM
https://www.futurity.org/movies-films-critics-841822/
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December 25, 2018 at 11:23 PM
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December 26, 2018 at 12:41 AM
I really dont know why this guy Sumit is so important. Taran adarsh ok, he has been there for decades now, who is this guy?
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December 26, 2018 at 1:39 AM
Jay likes him.
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December 25, 2018 at 11:29 PM
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December 25, 2018 at 11:41 PM
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December 25, 2018 at 11:45 PM
http://www.bollywoodhungama.com/news/features/rohit-shetty-working-shah-rukh-khan-dont-see-happening-right-now-watch-exclusive-video/
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December 25, 2018 at 11:48 PM
She is well-adjusted to the shifting dynamics of commercial Hindi cinema. “It’s okay if I am not there in Simmba as much as I was in Kedarnath. It’s okay if I don’t have that big role. Being a part of a Rohit Shetty film is as much a high for me as being a central character in Kedarnath. When I signed Simmba, I was very aware of my role. One needs to know why one is doing what one is doing. I did Simmba with my eyes open. I am thrilled to be part of it. I aspire to do all genres of cinema.”
Displaying wisdom far beyond her years, Sara says, “An actor does every film in the hope of success and in the hope of learning something new. I’ve learnt a lot from working in both Kedarnath and Simmba.”
What would your third film be? “Something that challenges and excites me. Right now, I am promoting Kedarnath and Simmba. I am scared when this ends there will be a void in my life. I can’t wait to get into another project.”
http://www.bollywoodhungama.com/news/features/role-not-large-kedarnath-hope-fans-wont-disappointed-sara-ali-khan-playing-conventional-heroine-simmba/
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December 26, 2018 at 12:51 AM
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December 26, 2018 at 1:00 AM
In Kannada filmmaker Mansore’s December 28 release Nathicharami (A promise to stand by), Sruthi Hariharan plays Gowri, a young woman who is trying to come to terms with her husband’s sudden death. If there is immense grief on one side, there’s also the looming question of what next. A friend suggests another marriage but Gowri is clear that she wants neither companionship nor love. But what about a woman’s physical desires, Gowri asks aloud in the trailer of the film. Also starring Sanchari Vijay and Sharanya, the film was premiered at the Mumbai Film Festival in October. This is Hariharan’s fourth film in 2018 after Humble Politician Nograj, Bhootayyana Mommaga Ayyu and Ambi Ning Vayasaaytho.
The year also saw Hariharan accuse actor Arjun Sarja of sexually harassing her on the sets of the 2017 Nibunan. Sarja has denied the allegations, and has sued Hariharan for defamation and embezzlement.
https://scroll.in/reel/906936/nathicharami-actor-sruthi-hariharan-on-metoo-only-way-to-clear-my-conscience-was-to-speak-up
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December 26, 2018 at 1:06 AM
https://www.timesnownews.com/entertainment/south-gossip/article/following-kgf-s-massive-success-rajinikanth-s-petta-reportedly-allowed-release-in-kannada/336821
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December 26, 2018 at 1:11 AM
https://www.addatoday.com/2018/12/zero-wednesday-6th-day-collection.html
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December 26, 2018 at 1:13 AM
This ‘analyst’ expects Zero to pick up at this point? Its over man, move on. Please.
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December 26, 2018 at 1:21 AM
@Sanjana – Will appreciate if you can shift focus from zero bo to whats happening all around the world when it comes to box office stuff. Its more happening and interesting for those not so invested in Zero.
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December 26, 2018 at 1:25 AM
This is BO thread. As long as Zero runs, it will be there. It is as close to my heart as Toh. Cant help it. Its run somewhat resembles Talaash.
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December 26, 2018 at 1:20 AM
https://www.rediff.com/movies/special/the-best-indian-films-of-2018/20181226.htm
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December 26, 2018 at 1:26 AM
He missed Tumbad and Stree if we consider small films only.
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December 26, 2018 at 1:31 AM
https://boxofficetrendz.blogspot.com/2018/12/kgf-6th-day-box-office-collection-wednesday-kgf-total-6-days-income.html
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December 26, 2018 at 1:35 AM
Jahnavi Kapoor as Gunjan Saxena as the country’s first female combat aviator.
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December 26, 2018 at 1:38 AM
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December 26, 2018 at 1:43 AM
As Simpson caricatures.
Priyanka, who is spending Christmas with her family in London, on Tuesday took to Instagram to share The Simpsons renditions by illustrators Stefano Monda and Rino Russo.
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December 26, 2018 at 1:49 AM
http://www.bollywoodhungama.com/news/features/2018recap-headlines-shook-bollywood/
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December 26, 2018 at 2:00 AM
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December 26, 2018 at 6:24 AM
Who exactly is the producer here?
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December 26, 2018 at 7:33 AM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thackeray_(film)
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December 26, 2018 at 7:44 AM
I m getting a bit slow …
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December 26, 2018 at 2:09 AM
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December 26, 2018 at 10:59 AM
I got 5 on it!
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December 26, 2018 at 11:53 AM
I dont understand.
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December 26, 2018 at 2:29 AM
KGF
Tuesday – 4,25,00,000 apprx
TOTAL – 16,25,00,000 apprx
The collections of the film across India in all formats are 84 crore nett in five days and it will cruise past 100 crore nett in the first week. It is mainly due to the local market of the film in Karnataka which has grossed 60 crore nett in five days. Bahubali 2 is the only film to 100 crore nett in Karnataka and this film could beat the figures of Bahubali – The Conclusion as Christmas period is huge in Bangalore.
https://boxofficeindia.com/report-details.php?articleid=4559
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December 26, 2018 at 2:48 AM
Zero
Friday – 19,35,00,000 apprx
Saturday – 17,00,00,000 apprx
Sunday – 18,25,00,000 apprx
Monday – 9,50,00,000 apprx
Tuesday – 11,75,00,000 apprx
TOTAL – 75,85,00,000 apprx
https://boxofficeindia.com/report-details.php?articleid=4560
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December 26, 2018 at 2:51 AM
http://www.bollywoodhungama.com/news/features/2018recap-10-peripheral-performances-shaped-bollywoods-destiny-2018/
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December 26, 2018 at 3:27 AM
Kangana says, “Writers have supported me really well during the film. Mr. Vijayendra Prasad is writing my next film as well.”
Asked about the genre of her next film, she said: “It’s a love story but not with a human.”
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December 26, 2018 at 3:32 AM
LOL, remind me never to piss off Kangana!
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December 26, 2018 at 6:53 AM
Kangana got too much unwanted ‘press’.
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December 26, 2018 at 3:52 AM
Prediction for Aamir Khan in 2019: Bad decisions leading to sheer waste of massive talent
If Aamir Khan has no release in 2019, he is likely to get knocked out of top 3 by year end. Only way he can survive now is when others fail to deliver. Then status quo remains.
For the sake of his emotional fans, i hope he does a quickie. Wonder why he did not sign any movie this year.
Prediction for Salman Khan in 2019: Bharat has to be a HIT
If Bharat is a HIT, then Salman Khan will still remain among the top stars performers. If superhit, he will again be No 1. An Eid release is usually a guaranteed hit for him but Race 3, which released on Eid, sent shock waves. There are no other projects at the moments which is on floors.
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December 26, 2018 at 5:01 AM
Made In China Postpones: It’s A 3 Way Clash Between Saaho, Mission Mangal & Batla House Now!
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December 26, 2018 at 5:02 AM
https://www.koimoi.com/box-office/simmba-advance-booking-update-ranveer-singh-is-all-set-to-roar/
Not yet!
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December 26, 2018 at 5:04 AM
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December 26, 2018 at 5:06 AM
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December 26, 2018 at 5:27 AM
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December 26, 2018 at 5:31 AM
https://www.news18.com/news/movies/hours-before-trailer-launch-censor-board-objects-to-3-dialogues-in-bal-thackeray-biopic-1983785.html
Of the three dialogues, two are related to Thackeray’s reference to South Indians and Babri Masjid. But setting the stage for a faceoff, Raut has declared that he won’t make any changes or cuts to the movie.
“Just like Balasaheb was controversial, but his thoughts gave direction to the country, the movie on Balasaheb too will be like that. We will show what he was like. This is not a love story. There will be no cuts or changes,” he told News18.
Thackeray, who was known for his highly provocative and controversial statements, had targeted South Indians in the late 1960s, accusing them of snatching away jobs from the Maharashtra youth. Prasoon Joshi-led CBFC has objected to its reference in the film.
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December 26, 2018 at 6:14 AM
Election propaganda for a sinking party?
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December 26, 2018 at 5:52 AM
what positive direction did he give to the copuntry? I’m just curious
Ideologies of people like Thackeray are just cancerous for society at large
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December 26, 2018 at 6:19 AM
I will be updating this for all the major stars one at a time, adding for SRK now
Prediction for Aamir Khan in 2019: Bad decision of slowing down leading to sheer waste of massive talent
If Aamir Khan has no release in 2019, he is likely to get knocked out of top 3 by year end. Only way he can survive now is when others fail to deliver. Then status quo remains.
I hope he does a quickie. Wonder why he did not sign any movie this year. What the hell???? And his fans here come after me if his ranks are lowered as if I am responsible for his no show.
Prediction for Salman Khan in 2019: Bharat has to be a HIT
If Bharat is a HIT, then Salman Khan will still remain among the top stars performers. If superhit, he will again be No 1. An Eid release is usually a guaranteed hit for him but Race 3, which released on Eid, sent shock waves. There are no other projects at the moments which is on floors
Prediction for SRK in 2019: Lack of movies makes no sense
SRK may be going thru a bad phase but he has seen worse and he should know that the only way to outperform is to first perform. Where are his movies? Pre-producting for his next, Salute has not even started. For god sake and for his fans..what is going on????
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December 26, 2018 at 7:03 AM
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December 26, 2018 at 1:27 PM
Seriously — this is the most mischievous version of an innocuous interview bit. Not surprised by the mischief.
Faridoon Shahryar of Bollywood Hungama had a longish interview chat with Fatima; and here is a minute plus, under two minutes actually, query and response about How Fatima dealt with link ups.
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December 26, 2018 at 7:50 AM
Delhi from 1950s to be recreated in Mumbai for Salman Khan – Katrina Kaif starrer Bharat
ByBollywood Hungama News NetworkDec 26, 2018 – 3:24 pm IST
The last schedule of Bharat will begin in January which will be dedicated to the climax scenes. As per reports, three different sets have been set up at Josh Maidan 1 and 2 and open ground at Film City. The expensive sets have been recreated by Acropolis’ Rajnish Hedao over the course of three months. Besides the intense action packed climax scenes, a crucial dramatic sequence between Katrina and Salman will also be filmed during the course of last schedule. As the script demanded Old Delhi, so makers decided to recreate it.
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December 26, 2018 at 9:41 AM
https://www.addatoday.com/2018/12/zero-6th-day-wednesday-collection-early.html?m=1
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December 26, 2018 at 9:53 AM
https://twitter.com/gavinfeng97/status/1077906451643781123
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December 26, 2018 at 10:07 AM
https://scroll.in/reel/905979/bollywood-2018-the-bollywood-remix-reached-saturation-point-but-shows-no-sign-of-going-away
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December 26, 2018 at 3:02 PM
I guess its poetic justice in a way… for the last 20 yrs, been hearing SRK fans diss Aamir as dwarf, butka, bauna, dhai-fut etc etc…only to see him rise to greater heights.
Yeh dekh ke shaayad SRK ko laga ki kyun na bauna ban kar try maar lete hain..lekin picture phir bhi flop hi rahi.
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December 26, 2018 at 5:38 PM
Lol!
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December 26, 2018 at 11:48 AM
https://www.thehindu.com/sci-tech/technology/internet/as-teens-take-to-tiktok-parents-lag/article25835337.ece?homepage=true
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December 26, 2018 at 5:06 PM
The.Best.Review.Ever of Manmarziyan (Sorry Q & Satyam)
http://dichotomy-of-irony.blogspot.com/2018/12/manmarziyaanlet-your-soul-fly.html
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December 26, 2018 at 5:11 PM
So all 3 Khans flopped this year. When was the last time that happened??
Anyways, I think Aamir is heading towards boredom (or may be his interest has shifted somewhere else). These days he isn’t looking interested in anything related to working in movies, SRK’s force has been exhausted since a long time and with every release he keeps confirming, Salman enjoyed a phase where he can stand in front of camera and be himself and that would do great, but don’t think that’s gonna work now. So may be what looked unlikely in near future couple of years ago has happened. The Khan rule is heading towards end. We are back to early 90s. The throne is finally slipping with lot of old and new contenders. Bollywood now awaits a brand new success story or in case of Khans it’s stories.
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December 26, 2018 at 10:36 PM
At least Aamir is doing one good thing, other than films. He is seriously involved in the re-greening of rural Maharashtra. I have been following his Paani Foundation efforts through the past three- four years. Last year, the rains were insufficient in Maharashtra, and yet villages that received some rain benefited, if rainwater work had been done. I understand that the foundation is also looking at enriching soil quality. It is a limited five year program, so I guess they want to do maximum work possible.
I am a benficiary of Chennai’s rain water harvesting efforts, some 15 years back, courtesy then CM Jayalalitha. From around 2004-5, Chennai’s water woes ended for many citizens. Will ever be grateful to Jayalalitha for having made rainwater harvesting mandatory — if you did not do it, you sewer line connection would be shut. Nothing works like a threat.
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December 27, 2018 at 1:32 AM
Yes some stunning successes with Paani foundation.
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December 26, 2018 at 5:48 PM
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December 26, 2018 at 6:25 PM
Back to single figure as it could be 5 to 6 Crores on Wednesday, which means 80 to 87 total so far depending on who you trust!! It could be down to 4 on Thursday ending its first week 84 at the lower end & 90 at the upper end, which means it would just touch 100 Crores or thereabouts ending just 5 to 7 Crores ahead of Talaash back in 2012 with thrice the budget!! 3rd disaster for Shahrukh in his last 5 movies and here overseas is also a damp-squib which is unusual as this is his ‘genre’ which has been working for so long in the overseas!! Still excuses galore from Shahrukh fan(atics) for it & trying to club Salman and Aamir together in this phase as if they were giving the same leniency to them when he was at the top!! One question to all 3 of them is why can’t they work on some small budget movies in between big ones as that would take a lot of pressure off them in terms of recovery and also could provide them with an array of creative choices to choose from. Going small is one of the ways to elongate their career as their recent failures have been more on the budget front than the reception their movies have been given at the box-office.
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December 26, 2018 at 6:28 PM
https://www.addatoday.com/2018/12/zero-6th-day-wednesday-collection-early.html?m=1
From addatoday.
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December 26, 2018 at 10:09 PM
As an Aamir fan, I seriously want Aamir to do a small quick film. Or even another Talaash meaning a medium sized quickie. In China through past week, Aamir has been telling interviewers that he would be interested in a Chinese film, if the right script came his way. But he adds that would require three to six months to get the Chinese dialogues correct. Which rules out a 2019 release. 😐
Somebody, anybody, make this message reach Aamir — we want a good small Hindi film from you before 2019 ends. And Mahabharat can wait. Do your wife’s film, anything else….but get productive fast. We are all growing older.
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December 26, 2018 at 10:50 PM
does he even need to learn Mandarin/Cantonese for it?
he can very well say the dialogues in English and have them dubbed
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December 26, 2018 at 10:53 PM
For lipsync.
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December 27, 2018 at 12:33 AM
I remember a period after Lagaan Oscar run, when aamir stayed put in US trying to get an English movie happen. Nothing came of it, except that he wasted prime time after his best year. Hope this is not a repitition of that episode.
But why wud ppl want to make movies in china of all the places? You cant even look as one of them!
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December 27, 2018 at 1:49 AM
Aamir went there to promote Lagaan for Oscars which itself is a grueling exercise, so had to ‘stay put’ in US, but never have i heard or read any ‘insider’ information like yours hinting Aamir’s ‘Hollywood ambitions’ being the reason for not signing a movie after DCH & Lagaan in 2001!! It is a well known fact that he was going through a rough phase in his married life which finally ended in a divorce in 2002, so he didn’t sign any movie even after he had finished shooting for Lagaan & DCH in 2001 & the whole Oscar thing happened in 2002 which didn’t take more than 2 to 3 months of his time during which he might have discussed and interacted with the film studios, the producers & the directors about the prospects and possibilities if any, but that was never the prime reason behind the hiatus he took between 2001 & 2005.
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December 27, 2018 at 5:25 AM
I am not sure I can bring you proof, but there was such an impression then.
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December 26, 2018 at 11:56 PM
SS is a small movie.
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December 26, 2018 at 7:26 PM
From what i understand, Gavin is saying this local production will open big and fizzle out due to wrong marketing strategy. Yet its likely to eat up screens and hurt TOH’s prospects (if any) in China. But he has also increased TOH’s predicted opening numbers. Moreover, he is saying the future of indian films in China depends on how TOH performs there. So it all implies average outcome for indian films in future in chinese market along with a possible outcome of local production to make an opening splash despite being a niche film?
China is always so interesting. What does it all mean? I think for indian films in china, releasing a film itself is a problem for lot of factors.
https://twitter.com/gavinfeng97/status/1077910272520609792
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December 26, 2018 at 7:30 PM
From what i understand of chinese market, either go realistic like Aamir did in Dangal (they call him ‘Uncle’ with belly and white hairs) or just go all out vfx like hollywood does. They also like action heroine oriented films, where hollywood always takes the lead.
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December 26, 2018 at 7:43 PM
Imagine PK getting pitched as a love story? Did the alien come to earth to fall in love and stay? Was that not Hirani’s ploy to deviate the controversies due to all the anti-religious jokes he cracked and made everyone laugh?
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December 26, 2018 at 8:02 PM
Yet was it really a film about ‘atheism’ or a rant against all religions?
The climax revealed his true intentions – PK was upset that his key to go back home was being held up as a religious talisman by one Guru (who turned out to not believe in what he was preaching). THAT was the main conflict of the film. He just wanted to go back. Was he against any religion, religious leaders or those who follow religion ??
He insisted religion is necessary to live life. He was also not crucifying all religious leaders under one broad stroke. He had issue with one guy who withheld his key.
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December 26, 2018 at 8:10 PM
Hirani made a film about how a necessary system can end up victimizing anyone who is not well versed about how it all works – an outsider. Interstellar was about us visiting different new worlds. Hirani’s film was about one world, while Nolan wanted to explore an unknown uni-verse. Not many consider Interstellar as his best, while i personally adored the father-daughter bondage that emotionally held the movie together IMO.
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December 26, 2018 at 8:16 PM
ABA is a cinematic adaptation of a japanese manga comics. Apart from a great starcast, they created so many new worlds using vfx. Check it out:
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December 26, 2018 at 8:22 PM
Makers want it to work well in both japan and US. It will open first in China as they like animations (check out the run of a 30 yr old animation film released recently there). Its delayed twice already (summer to winter to now spring). ToH, ABA – it will get interesting to look at the china market for those interested.
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December 26, 2018 at 8:20 PM
Boi
Zero had a big drop in business on Wednesday as it collected 4.5-5 crore nett which is around 50% lower than the Monday collection. The drop was always likely to come and it seals the fate of the film. The total collections of the film are now in the 80-81 crore nett range and it will do a first week collection of 85 crore nett.
This is lower than what Ra.One did on Diwali 2011 which managed 90 crore nett and Zero has come seven years later with more screens an higher ticket rates. The ticket rates were dropped on Wednesday at multiplexes after being held on Monday and Tuesday due to the holiday period..
The film is still best in UP and Bihar but collections have dropped there also on Wednesday. The only thing that remains now is to see whether the film can go over 100 crore nett and the business on Friday will tell that.
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December 26, 2018 at 8:39 PM
Isnt this trailer interesting?
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December 26, 2018 at 8:42 PM
And …
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December 26, 2018 at 8:44 PM
https://indianexpress.com/article/india/kedarnath-floods-girl-missing-in-floods-returns-home-family-faces-tough-call-5511128/
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December 26, 2018 at 8:58 PM
So ‘many’ stories can be written by just predicting through intuition of the writer.
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December 26, 2018 at 8:59 PM
Only if you dont have any star hung-ups at any point. Its a clean slate then, right?
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December 26, 2018 at 9:03 PM
https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/polymorphism-in-c/
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December 26, 2018 at 9:15 PM
DG is a personal fav of mine. Its always abt ‘true’ love.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiran_Rao
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December 26, 2018 at 9:16 PM
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December 26, 2018 at 9:34 PM
I sincerely believe Aamir played his part in ghost-directing DG.
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“When I sign a film, I first look at the screenplay or script … Actors and technicians are all part of the film, but it all starts with the writer. The writer is the origin and the most important aspect of making a film,” Aamir said in a statement.
So, while sharing what he expects of future writers, he said, “We are looking for someone with a different imagination and scenario or scenario that we come across, where the characters have been well written, the premise and the purpose is clear and where the whole trip is very entertaining and engaging. This is what we are looking for in a good scenario.”
The Cinestaan India Storytelling Contest is launched by Cinestaan Digital Pvt. Ltd.
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I am sure that all the aspirants created havoc everywhere.
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December 26, 2018 at 9:48 PM
For a change?
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December 26, 2018 at 9:49 PM
https://scroll.in/article/907124/genpact-case-have-the-noida-police-overreached-by-charging-a-company-with-abetment-of-suicide
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December 26, 2018 at 10:07 PM
What are the ground level results of the #MeToo movement again? I want to know.
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December 26, 2018 at 10:10 PM
If something cant get the desired results, then isnt the aaproach wrong in the first place ??? I am not debating on whether those results are needed or not. But in this way? Please!
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December 26, 2018 at 10:27 PM
I can speak only about showbiz. The result is that they are more careful. No movement can sustain for a long time. People get tired. Only the stakeholders should pursue the matter once the public support is muted.
The approach was by one woman and even she did not expect that it will snowball into a big movement.
Atleast bollywood has seen some changes. Something is better than nothing.
The above story and the Pink film.
If the accused in the Pink film had committed suicide? The film maker should explore the possibilities. Maybe Pink 2.
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December 26, 2018 at 10:37 PM
Why not? Pink director is not that busy i guess.
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December 26, 2018 at 10:45 PM
If someone commits suicide, it is a very sad thing. These matters should be kept confidential and the concerned employee should get a warning first. If it is publicized, they will feel humiliated. Some time back I read a story about a senior employee who was arrested for taking huge bribes. After CBI questioned his family, the mother and daughter committed suicide due to shame or harassment. And also the son.Then the accused who was home after bail also committed suicide. Entire family wiped out due to one man’s crime or mistake.
When parents scold children for lowgrades or deny them a smart phone or bike, children commit suicide. Students commit suicide when they are caught for copying or if the teacher is strict with them.
So these suicides should be taken as a bigger picture. Why they are happening and who is actually responsible for them?
The media is mainly responsible for highlighting them for sensationalising.
Naming and shaming is not such a good idea. It can backfire.
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December 26, 2018 at 10:28 PM
Zero Drops On Wednesday
Thursday 27 December 2018 01.30 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
Zero had a big drop in business on Wednesday as it collected 4.5-5 crore nett which is around 50% lower than the Monday collection. The drop was always likely to come and it seals the fate of the film. The total collections of the film are now in the 80-81 crore nett range and it will do a first week collection of 85 crore nett.
This is lower than what Ra.One did on Diwali 2011 which managed 90 crore nett and Zero has come seven years later with more screens an higher ticket rates. The ticket rates were dropped on Wednesday at multiplexes after being held on Monday and Tuesday due to the holiday period..
The film is still best in UP and Bihar but collections have dropped there also on Wednesday. The only thing that remains now is to see whether the film can go over 100 crore nett and the business on Friday will tell that.
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December 26, 2018 at 10:30 PM
As per someone, i was expecting a massive corruption in terms of reporting by both Red Chillies as well as BOI.
None of them (RCE abd BOI) have shown the false propaganda, widely publicised before Zero was releasing.
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December 26, 2018 at 10:35 PM
Zero can also be a Use case of Holiday period playing such an important role. A difference of 15 Cr for Zero which is having mixed WoM could easily have been a swing of upto 40-50 Cr with a positive WoM due to holiday factor.
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December 26, 2018 at 10:39 PM
BOI: KGF Hindi is a HIT in Mumbai with business of 9 crore nett till date. Despite Simmba coming on Friday the film will manage to have good screen time in the circuit as it is holding good occupancy. North has low occupancy but it is holding at low levels.
Friday – 2,00,00,000 apprx
Saturday – 3,00,00,000 apprx
Sunday – 4,00,00,000 apprx
Monday – 3,00,00,000 apprx
Tuesday – 4,25,00,000 apprx
TOTAL – 16,25,00,000 apprx
The collections of the film across India in all formats are 84 crore nett in five days and it will cruise past 100 crore nett in the first week. It is mainly due to the local market of the film in Karnataka which has grossed 60 crore nett in five days. Bahubali 2 is the only film to 100 crore nett in Karnataka and this film could beat the figures of Bahubali – The Conclusion as Christmas period is huge in Bangalore.
https://boxofficeindia.com/report-details.php?articleid=4559
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December 26, 2018 at 10:44 PM
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December 26, 2018 at 10:53 PM
Great star cast here. Never knew this would be at this level. VVC needed luck and maybe now he will get lucky.
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December 26, 2018 at 10:58 PM
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December 26, 2018 at 11:46 PM
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December 26, 2018 at 11:50 PM
https://www.addatoday.com/2018/12/simmba-box-office-prediction-by-bobby.html
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December 26, 2018 at 11:53 PM
http://www.bollywoodhungama.com/news/features/2018recap-18-embarrassing-scenes-dialogues-bollywood-films-year/
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December 27, 2018 at 12:00 AM
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December 27, 2018 at 12:10 AM
So was the beta test successful? ‘You’ decide …
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December 27, 2018 at 12:07 AM
Man is in a hurry to finish off mankind.
https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/vladimir-putins-new-year-gift-is-hypersonic-nuclear-warhead-that-can-glide-1968588?pfrom=home-lateststories
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December 27, 2018 at 12:23 AM
No preview response posted for Chinese cut? Its Dec 28 release! Today is 27th.
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Aamir Khan’s ‘Thugs of Hindostan’ set for release in China
Celebrated Indian actor Aamir Khan’s new film “Thugs of Hindostan” is set to be released in China on December 28.
Directed by Vijay Krishna Acharya and produced by Yash Raj Films, the production of the adventure film “Thugs of Hindostan” has cost about 300 million yuan ($43.5 million). Till late November, in return, it grossed about $40 million in box office.
Before its release in China, starting from December 16, the leading actor Aamir have finished a 10-day tour to attend a series of promotional events in eight major cities in China, including Sanya, Guangzhou, Xi’an, Nanjing, Chengdu, Wuhan, Shanghai, and Beijing.
The review of the film, however, seems to come out critically. Its Average Rating on the Rotten Tomatoes is only a little over 4 out of 10, and many critics offered negative comments.
What raised the expectations of Chinese fans is that the film to be released two days later is a unique version edited by Aamir Khan himself. Catering to the Chinese audience’s taste, this version removes some slow-motion action scenes and local Indian slangs, while adding some background stories. This version will be more compact, intense, and easier to understand.
The film also keeps many songs and dance numbers to match the festive ambiance.
Khan enjoys great popularity in China. His previous works feature the comedy-drama being a satire about the Indian education system, 3 idiots (2009), the biopic film to reflect the potential and growth of girls from India’s lower class, Dangal (2016), and the musical drama telling how an ordinary girl realizes the dream of being a singer, Secret Superstar (2017). All of them were global hits and bear high fame among Chinese audience.
The year 2018 marks the 30th anniversary for Khan since he worked as a full-time actor. In “Thugs of Hindostan” he stars as a rogue, Firangi, which some comments said may be the most groundbreaking character in his career. The role he plays mediates between the English colonists and a group of Indian bandits. Being neither honest nor evil, his character presents a varied and mysterious image to the audience.
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December 27, 2018 at 12:56 AM
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December 27, 2018 at 2:31 AM
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December 27, 2018 at 12:32 AM
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December 27, 2018 at 12:36 AM
https://www.koimoi.com/box-office/box-office-updates-zero-flops-kgf-hindi-does-well/
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December 27, 2018 at 12:43 AM
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December 27, 2018 at 4:41 AM
I’m surprised they’ve gone all out for a lesbian love story. I guess they’re expecting a Kapoor & Sons style success here.
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December 27, 2018 at 7:46 AM
In Kapoor and Sons, it was a surprise until one watched the actual movie and also was not the main track of the movie.
I will be very surprised if a) This movie releases without any issue/court cases etc and b) does well
The Indian audiences are not that welcoming when it comes to such issues – they do not want to watch stuff which makes them uncomfortable
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December 27, 2018 at 1:22 AM
https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-5-most-overrated-movies-of-the-year-blackkklansman-vice-and-more?source=twitter&via=desktop
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December 27, 2018 at 1:51 AM
Happy Birthday Salman Khan !!!
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December 27, 2018 at 1:52 AM
Happy Birthday Salman Khan !!!
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December 27, 2018 at 1:53 AM
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December 27, 2018 at 1:53 AM
https://twitter.com/RajatSharmaLive/status/107810065283074457
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December 27, 2018 at 2:48 AM
Zero Sixth Day Business
Thursday 27 December 2018 13.00 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
Zero took a big hit on day six post the Christmas holiday as it collected 4.50 crore nett apprx. The drop is over 50% from Monday and it means the film will struggle from here on. The total collection of the film is around 80.50 crore nett in six days.
The collections are better in North and Bihar with Delhi / UP collecting 1.25 crore nett which is 27% of the all India business compared to 20% which is teh Delhi / UP average. Thee film has struggled in Mumbai from day one and collections on day six were under 1 crore nett in the circuit when normally the should be 30-40% higher than Delhi / UP.
The film will struggle in its second week as day six is at low levels and it will be Friday which will tell ehere the film is going. The first six day figures for Zero are as follows.
Friday – 19,35,00,000 apprx
Saturday – 17,00,00,000 apprx
Sunday – 18,25,00,000 apprx
Monday – 9,50,00,000 apprx
Tuesday – 11,75,00,000 apprx
Wednesday – 4,50,00,000
TOTAL – 80,35,00,000 apprx
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December 27, 2018 at 2:59 AM
KGF (Hindi) Sustains Very Well Post Big Holiday
Thursday 27 December 2018 13.30 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
The Hindi version of KGF has held very well post the Christmas holiday with collections of 2.50 crore nett. the collections are still higher than the first day by 25%. The trend of this film is very similar to the first Bahubali film at half the level of business with a similar release in terms of screen count. The total so far is 18.75 crore nett and thw week should end at 21 crore nett.
Bahubali – The Beggining broke in the second week across India and that was despite the release of a huge blockbuster like Bajrangi Bhaijaan. The screen count of Bahubali – The Beginning was still okay in Mumbai but was hit badly in many other circuits due to Bajrangi Bhaijaan but it still collected very well.
Obviously KGF (Hindi) is no Bahubali – The Beginning (Hindi) as collections are 50% of that film but if it can continue with the trend of Bahubali – The Beginning over the next ten days or so then it will come out with a very good final total. The approx six day figures of KGF (Hindi) are as follows.
Friday – 2,00,00,000 apprx
Saturday – 3,00,00,000 apprx
Sunday – 4,00,00,000 apprx
Monday – 3,00,00,000 apprx
Tuesday – 4,25,00,000 apprx
Wednesday 2,50,00,000 apprx
TOTAL – 18,75,00,000 apprx
The collections of the film across India in all formats are 92.50 crore nett in six days. The collections in Karnataka are a huge 66.50 crore nett.
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December 27, 2018 at 3:29 AM
https://www.rediff.com/movies/special/ten-2018-films-i-didnt-like/20181227.htm
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December 27, 2018 at 3:53 AM
This is what happens when someone wants to stand out and be counted as a standalone genius. Not Meta but Mental. Does not know in what context the films are made and for whom. Crying for attention.
“All the intelligent people loved Tumbbad?”
“Haha! I did not. Because I am more intelligent and know it is not upto the mark. And this will make intelligent critics to scratch their heads and feel confused. My wish achieved.”
“You love Sanju and Padmaavat? I wish they failed like Toh and Race 3. But as they were liked by many and disliked by intelligent people, I had to dislike them and reluctantly join some gang instead of standing alone gloriously.”
I want to stand alone and only the tallest stand alone.
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December 27, 2018 at 3:56 AM
I saw this list and felt sorry. Maybe favourite list will have Race3, TOH and Zero!
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December 27, 2018 at 3:59 AM
https://www.rediff.com/movies/special/the-best-indian-films-of-2018/20181226.htm
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December 27, 2018 at 4:02 AM
He may give the most stupid films list where the 3 might find a place.
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December 27, 2018 at 11:07 AM
the writer is confusing his takeaways from certain films and linking it to good cinema. not that i disagree with his choices, but then he has used the same logic for films he didn’t like.
the list of films he didn’t like is an arrogant and snooty choice! as sanjana said, gives vibes of a pseudo intellectual
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December 27, 2018 at 5:56 AM
Simmba
https://www.khaleejtimes.com/citytimes/bollywood/simmba-movie-review-ranveer-dominates-in-this-masala-flick-
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December 27, 2018 at 6:11 AM
“Just when you think you’ve had enough of drama, Shetty pulls the coup of the year with an announcement of the next Singham/Simmba installment and we won’t ruin the surprise for you by revealing who the Khiladi in Khaki is going to be!”
A.K.S.H.A.Y. K.U.M.A.R. 😀
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December 27, 2018 at 6:40 AM
Wouldn’t Shetty, Akshay and a Khiladi film be the perfect storm?
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December 27, 2018 at 6:45 AM
100%
Rohit Shetty could be ideal for Akshay in a cop khiladi genre. Not sure if they would keep the “Khiladi” in the title. Wish they had worked earlier.
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December 27, 2018 at 6:02 AM
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December 27, 2018 at 6:09 AM
Hahaha…Kher nails it.
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December 27, 2018 at 6:09 AM
Hahaha…Kher nails it.
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December 27, 2018 at 6:36 AM
Akshaye K. is in super form in this…..what an actor!
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December 27, 2018 at 9:34 AM
The timing of the release — just before the general elections — tells one everything.
Perhaps the Congress could make a movie out of demonetisation.
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December 27, 2018 at 12:06 PM
i think the timing is wrong for this movie now..MMs is no longer a ridiculed PM..the time he said he will be judged kindly seem to have come too soon!
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December 27, 2018 at 7:06 AM
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December 27, 2018 at 8:01 AM
What’s with all these political almost propaganda driven movies coming out early 2019? Accidental Prime Minister, URI, Thackrey, there maybe others…
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December 27, 2018 at 8:06 AM
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December 27, 2018 at 8:57 AM
Watched Zero couple days ago (thanks to An Jo review). Must say the movie is not bad at all and was great to see SRK in his full energy. Nothing more to say besides what most have already said. I thought the movie was very good to brilliant in some parts until last 30 minutes. Instead of NASA, would have been better if the method to get the love back was in another form (join army, or social works or something else). It would be more believable. Mere Naam Tu songs was amazing on screen. So, three things:
1) I don’t think SRK will be in this biopic of astronaut, zero showed enough of it already.
2) No I have to see TOH because I’m sure, TOH is not as bad as portrayed in social media.
3) Khans in particular will have a very hard time going forward because there is a section who wants them out. Any subpar movies of theirs will not do. I think even a decent movie will get killed via social media.
Watched Andhadhun, absolutely loved the movie. Even the songs were very good.
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December 27, 2018 at 9:15 AM
Khans in particular will have a very hard time going forward because there is a section who wants them out.
This is absolute rubbish. Film viewing doesn’t work on communal lines. Never has, never will.
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December 27, 2018 at 9:22 AM
One such “section” also comprises of Asaddudin Owaisi, who asked Muslims to boycott Salman Khan’s films.
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December 27, 2018 at 9:24 AM
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December 27, 2018 at 9:30 AM
All 3 need to understand age and do roles that suit them. In theory you can be any age playing Salman’s character in Bajrangi and of course Aamir did Dangal.
When I watched Andhadhun I figured even the cheating policeman could be played by a star actor. Unfortunately such a role just wouldn’t be gobbled up as Ayushman’s is the lead role.
I’d much rather see these 50+ year olds playing that age or older.
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December 27, 2018 at 9:35 AM
Saif’s role in Sacred Games is kick ass. Move on from stardom and diversify. Being image bound is far too restrictive.
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December 27, 2018 at 9:44 AM
As long as the content is strong, being 50+ will not pose much of a problem.
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December 27, 2018 at 9:47 AM
The alarm bells and warning signs were present in abundance. So many decently trended stars have fallen by the wayside in the last 2-4 yrs. Saif, HR, AjayD, Siddharth, ArjunK, Emraan, etc. These guys at least delivered one avg grosser a year to keep pushing their carts forward. But they have ground to a halt. The reasons as explained previously were to do with choice of alternate and better entertainment for the paying public. If you make cinema going as expensive as other forms of entertainment, for sure the public will respond in kind. With the onslaught of online streaming, hollywood tentpoles, and even Southern movies, the ROI potential for bwood is rapidly decreasing.
As for the 3 Khans, these Zero, JHMS, Race3, etc etc kinda roles have been easy pickings for SRK/Sallu. Lazily written, with disproportionate reliance on starpower to pull through. Both of them will need to transition over very quickly.
Aamir had already transitioned with Dangal/PK, he just tried to experiment (albeit a very costly one) by going back to what he thought was the easy mainstream picking. He found out the hard way that people who pay don’t care a hoot for starpower anymore.
2018 should sound the final alarm for all, and even Akshay is not too far behind in age to take it casually anymore. However, he seems to have already become the most cautious of all, by doing low to medium budget flicks with good return potential.
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December 27, 2018 at 9:56 AM
I don’t fancy seeing actors or actresses like this. Like a Madhuri comeback now via doing some dhak dhak songs is not good. Sridevi did 2 dignified roles before her death. Big B and Rishi Kapoor do so many roles in last 20 years that are interesting.
I think Salman and SRK especially carry the bigger burden of image, stardom so it might be tougher to let go. Even Dutt found munnabhai late on. They don’t have to be side actors but surely they can do some interesting work still.
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December 27, 2018 at 10:23 AM
Z, points 1-3 perfectly confirm my perception. Thanks for your post.
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December 27, 2018 at 10:36 AM
Point #3 is just alarmist. There is no backlash from viewers against any of the Khans. Had it been so, ToH would not have broken opening day records.
Also, film critics don’t work under communal lines. The reviews for all 3 films have been terrible, across the board.
It’s just gravely insincere to attribute communal bias against the Khans when they were the top stars for so long, and two of them continue to be, in Bollywood.
The rise of Trump in the US doesn’t make Hollywood communal.
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December 27, 2018 at 11:34 AM
**The rise of Trump in the US doesn’t make Hollywood communal.**
Great comment Saket.
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December 27, 2018 at 12:25 PM
In hollywood there are no boycott calls, no theatre attacks, and the actors stand up against the president. We know what happens here!
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December 27, 2018 at 12:31 PM
The film that suffered the most in terms of boycott calls and attacks was SLB’s PADMAAVAT.
And when it was released, it made 300 Crores!
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December 27, 2018 at 1:07 PM
“In hollywood there are no boycott calls, no theatre attacks, and the actors stand up against the president. We know what happens here!”
Yes, and no one is always encouraged to finally leave the country!
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December 27, 2018 at 1:19 PM
With all due respect, you guys have no idea what you are talking about. The reality is just the opposite of what you claim.
In Bollywood, it’s the right wing supporters who are marginalised. Look at Anupam Kher — his career is finished. No major production house is hiring him.
Look at Vivek Agnihotri. Another done and dusted case.
When people go out and watch movies, they don’t look at someone’s religion. So please stop spreading hate to suit your own narrative.
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December 27, 2018 at 1:53 PM
vivek agnihotri and anupam kher? both are rightwing spokespersons and doing well! They are limiting themselves to that as they have political amibitions obviously..anupam kher was ftii chairman till recently and vivek agnihotri just coined a phrase for the ruling party with his book urban naxal.. another one is ashok pandit.what they are doing is their choice..
but there are others who r trying to keep as low profile in controversial matters and still are always on target..It is a reality.
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December 27, 2018 at 1:59 PM
Again, where are the facts in your post?
Isn’t it true that Kher’s career as an actor is finished? Agnihotri’s career as a director is also finished?
And why don’t you give a concrete example of hate? Why was DANGAL the biggest Hindi grosser of all time? After Aamir’s intolerance remark, to boot.
Why did PK, a film that ostensibly criticises the practices of a Hindu Godman, do so well?
Where is the proof that Khans are being persecuted? Why don’t you have any comments on what a guy like Owaisi has to say?
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December 27, 2018 at 2:01 PM
And please, reply with facts. Not insinuations, not innuendos and also, don’t bring in your gut feeling. Only facts will do.
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December 27, 2018 at 2:10 PM
Just because SRK is giving flops, the religion card has to be brought out, to justify his flops? It’s really pathetic!
This is precisely what Azharuddin did when he was caught in the match fixing scandal. Pulled out the religion card, all the time ignoring the fact that his religion never came in the way of him becoming the Indian cricket team’s captain.
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December 27, 2018 at 3:42 PM
Saket, you are totally right. Indian audiences have supported the careers till date and they have every right to remove that support. To blame it on religion is simply untrue. You only have to see SRK’s career post OSO to know he has been in decline whilst Aamir and Salman went through the best phases in their career – so how can that be? That for 2 it has worked out and 1 not? It’s simply film choices that got them where they are and those choices will continue it or finish it.
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December 27, 2018 at 12:13 PM
agreed on all 3 ponts Z..glad you watched it!
social service, army etc wont work imo..and army anywys a dwarf cant go. What was wrong with Nasa, she worked there! and i am only glad if astronaut movie wont happen, it may end up as another swades.
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