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Both Forrest Gump and Vikram Vedha are good films and Aamir’s next 2 are remakes of them. Chances are both will turn out good pieces of cinema. The challenge will be to live up to the reputations of the originals. Not sure of the material in Mogul though. But Aamir not letting it go suggests the script is good. Good times for Aamir fans with 3 back to back films on his platter.
It’s different as it removes the Irish border backstop. I think Boris Johnson may have finally delivered a deal here. If an extension is not forced only 3 options exist
No deal
Accept deal
Revoke Article 50 and stay in EU. I think it’s going to be a close vote now. Hopefully they agree.
As per reports VV remake is being planned to go on floors in April and shoot to be completed in 2-3 months. If so, it provides a possibility of back to back releases for aamir in 2020 – LSC in Diwali and VV in Christmas. I hope Aamir reads this (as Naveen keeps claiming)!
I wonder who’re these distributors willing to invest in Saif Ali Khan films nowadays. Lal Kaptaan carries zero buzz & zero anticipation. A monumental disaster on the cards. Being a billionaire nawab himself, Saif should have some mercy on distributors & exhibitors and stick to Netflix or Amazon unless he gets to play second fiddle to Aamir or Srk in any of their films. I remember the troll Krk recently remarking that even Saif’s own family member Kunal Khemu might have greater fan following today than Saif. For once I did agree with him.
I like almost all Saif’s performances these days. His BO pull is probably gone but he does act well. And being rich doesn’t mean he can sell his film. When distributors know they are going to make a loss, they won’t buy. But by that logic then half of all the films won’t get released.
Top Twenty Grossers All Formats – Saaho 9th War 12th
Wednesday 16 October 2019 11.45 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
Saaho finished with a total of 302 crore nett across India making it the ninth highest NETT grosser of all time if we take business of all Indian films across all formats. The top ten sees six films from the Hindi film industry and four from the South but the top three films are all from South and they are the only 3 films to cross 40 crore nett.
Its pretty easy to see the judge the difference between these three films and the Hindi films and that is these films are larger than life and made for cinema and that is why they put up big numbers in Hindi markets which they needed for these huge numbers. The 400 crore nett number is still proving elusive for Hindi cinema which it should not as ticket prices are higher than two years back and taxes are far less. So even if GROSS records are not being hit, the NETT records should be easily achievable.
Saaho had a so so performance in the South and had it performed there as expected it would have meant the top four being non Hindi films. War is probably aiming at a top ten finish also and presently stands at number twelve. The top twenty NETT grossers on all formats across India are as follows.
Lol! Why not take the dubbed versions of all Hindi films too if that’s been done for these South films?
In fact why not take a step ahead and include worldwide gross? But we all know why BOI would shy away from it!
Worldwide gross they see it privately every day, shed tears, look in the mirror angrily, promise to take revenge and out of the blue come up with articles which are cringeworthy, strange, illogical and embarrassing. Bollywood style!!
How’s it bollywood style when the article is motivated to degrade bollywood itself? As i’ve always maintained, its either gotta be Hindi vs Hindi or Telugu vs Telugu in gross terms (as Hindi & southern domestic markets barring B’lore & Hy’bad city are totally isolated) or its gotta be worldwide vs worldwide all version together (in which case boi’s propaganda of degrading multiplex films & promoting pungent retrograde masala junk would be ripped apart). Either ways, even Saaho is an outright Hindi film itself as it was shot entirely in Hindi with an actor who enjoys huge following in the Hindi belt & a bollywood actress too. 2.0’s Hindi version too had Akshay & some of the rest mouthing dialogues in Hindi and with Akshay’s presence it became a pan India film too, releasing in 7500 screens.
It’s useless to segregate. We are only asking for all India or WW collections on gross basis – all those splits of Hindi vs Hindi etc can still be done.
It’s like any big company reports it’s big numbers and then segments after for deeper drivers. Here in India you don’t get the big numbers just the nett and shoddy contrived comparisons to suit oneself.
All India, all versions has no relevance as the interiors of AP/Telangana, TN etc are as alien for a Hindi film as the Chinese or Japanese market. Outright Hindi films like War & Padmaavat hardly find 100-150 screens for their dubbed versions down south while dubbed Telugu films find almost 4000 screens in Hindi along with face value for the Hindi version (Akshay in 2.0, Ajay/Alia in RRR, Sanjay in Kgf 2). Bahubali was a once in a generation exception, a Sholay moment but even there it was the cult popularity of part 1 that generated the hype, anticipation & craze for part 2. Part 1 itself was a healthy 120 cr in Hindi but not extraordinary. Its unfair to compare Hindi films getting 4500 screens pan India with Telugu or Tamil films which release in 7500 screens, which are multilingual & have healthy face value for the Hindi audience too. In the scenario of an “all languages, all versions” comparison only a global comparison would make sense, that too only for those films which release in the Chinese market.
NETT should have never been criteria at any point.
Gross and Distributor share are relevant information regarding totality of business and profitability.
This table is not applied when Hindi movie collections are compared or shared. South collections are regularly ignored and vv for South films. It’s done for propaganda – everyone knows BB2 is huge and everything else literally is a fraction of it!
I’d use Taran Adarsh numbers for War all India. They include dubbed versions.
Wake up guys it’s ALL INDIA and nearly 2020, not exclusive to a specific language or region. We are not in dark ages.
It’s like US excluding Texas because of some stupid reasons!
Its not as easy or straightforward as it seems. Hindi films that get dubbed in Telugu & Tamil hardly get 100-150 screens in the interiors of AP/TN while mainstream Telugu films being dubbed into Hindi are being distributed by the likes of Dharma & Excel & release in a good 4000+ screens in Hindi. Plus the likes of 2.0, Saaho & now the upcoming RRR have huge Bollywood star value which makes these films commercially viable for the Hindi audience while being lapped up by their home audience too. For an outright Hindi film like War or Dangal, the AP/TN & Karnataka interiors (outside Hy’bad & Bangalore city) is as much an alien territory as the Chinese or Japanese market. While the likes of 2.0, RRR and the upcoming Kgf 2 are already almost as much Hindi films as they are regional. Bahubali 2 can be kept aside as that’s a once in a generation Sholay moment in Indian cinema & that too came about only thanks to the anticipation, craze & buzz created by BB1 which had zero face value in the Hindi belt & hence despite its sensational trend and word of mouth couldn’t go beyond a healthy 120 Cr nett. Since then, the likes of 2.0 & Saaho both release in 7500+ screens pan India while Dangal, Padmaavat and War hardly got 4000-4500. Hence for comparison of all versions, all languages, only a worldwide vs worldwide makes sense that too only for films that see a China release. Else we need to stick to Hindi vs Hindi in which case War as of now stands at 275 Cr compared to the 280 odd of Kabir Singh (which didn’t have a regional dubbed release).
Not surprising, but not sure why i felt happy about this severe headache 🙂
Watched #LaalKaptaan & it gave me severe headache. Story , direction performances & every aspect of the film is horrible to say the least. Watch at your own risk. Rating-⭐️
I will be keenly watching the fate of Dabangg3 Vs Good News. This is not a direct clash but still a semi clash sort of. I will not be surprised if both does more or less same business and that would be another Jhatka for Salman’s fans. They are already reeling under slowdown in the business of Salman’s movies but not accepting it. Saying an Eid Release and doubly priced Bharat made 5 Cr more than Mission Mangal is already an acceptance of defeat. Even when 2point0 and Kesari’s performance are not invoked and that Housefull 4 will easily sail through (will also be a bigger hit than Dabangg3), it is clear that in last 2 years Akshay’s films have overtaken Salman’s.
Data, perception, popularity and power – it is all favouring Akshay now.
BUT
Salman’s fans have taken Eid 2020 on their ego. This is the final frontier for those fans who can be quite abusive if you try to engage with in a debate. They are going bonkers ever since Suryavanshi was announced on Eid and then preponed and then Laaxmi was confirmed. I can understand their rage. It is like Pakistan who suddenly realise that Kashmir is gone after article 370 was reversed.
And as a keen observer of trends, i am more confident about trending of Laaxmi Bomb and almost certain that Laxxmi bomb would do 50% more business than Radhe. Likh ke de rahein hain. But both will be far less than Suryavanshi and Prithviraj.
I never ever doubt you would bet against any Akshay movie but do agree both the semi clashes might end up closer as both Salman films feel just front loaded.
Even if they do more business, the fact will always remain that Akshay never has and never will see the craze & rage witnessed by SK between 94-99 & 2010-16. At least let Akshay first deliver a single Hgoty or All timer before comparing him with a guy whose delivered 9!
I think you are betting on wrong films. Your dreams may come true if you pitch Houseful 4 against Dabangg 3 and Suryavanshi against Radhe and compare business. But Salman’s movies will also do good, if not better.
The stuff mastered by tatoo kumar in his mostly potty films till he joined hands with neeraj pandey to deliver some sense. I guess he & his garbage fans been missing his braindead status quo for too long now.
It can be a sort of guilty pleasure. But why like something just because it has the potential to be a blockbuster?
There’s stuff that sells like hotcakes in the interiors of the Indian hinterland, B-grade softporn or the likes of trashy Mithun starters. Then there’s stuff like Masaan that they’d shun right away. Would you call the former better cinema?
Somewhere a line has to be drawn. The audience is not always right.
It is a bit like Martin Scorsese saying Marvel movies are not cinema. One needs to enjoy cinema rather than restrict it to his wants and needs. Cinema is a medium to explore and not to restrict. If Akshay does a Housefull 4 one in 1 year, i would never appreciate that. But look at him man-
A superb villain in 2point0
A warrior in Kesari
A scientist in Mission Mangal
A crazy king in Housefull
in last 12 months. His next 6 are all in diverse genres. He is doing a film like Housefull after years and reinventing successfully which other stars find it so hard to do (reinvention).
I am in awe of his abilities and his range. To be frank, Shivaay is jealous of this. Tell me one superstar who can pull off Bala. No Aamir, Hrithik, SRK can pull this off…Salman and Devgn can try but he cannot match. I can only see Ranveer doing it.
So this makes me clap when AKshay attempt this so brilliantly and successfully. It also makes me wonder of the limited cinematic understanding of those who cannot appreciate this.
Other thing is there are 2 genres which are not made everytime – Uber auctioneers like War and Slapstick comedy like Housefull 4.
I love these genres and usually tend to like them a lot. These genres are loved every where in india and by every class.
Few actually trying to make Housefull-4 a B centre movie but they know and fear the business the A centres multiplex will do. It will be by and large the same audience who like War and Dangal that will come for Housefull 4. It is entertainment after all.
No one denies Akshay’s comic timing and there’s nothing in it for me to be jealous of (I’m not his competitor, rival or even in the same field of work). However slapstick comedy too can be genuinely funny instead of just silly, lame rehased junk that’s being fed by franchises like Golmaal, Dhamaal & HF. The best examples of genuinely funny slapstick films would be Andaaz Apna Apna & Akshay’s very own Hera Pheri. Bachchan pulled off a classic slapstick act in Namak Halaal back in his hey days. Any kinda comedy’s gotta be genuinely funny, not corrosive junk like the Shetty’s, Bazmee’s and Farah/Sajid’s of the industry make to fill their coffers. PS, even 3 Idiots’ got plenty of slapstick moments esp with Chatur on screen. Genuinely funny one’s.
I am wondering who are the producers financing Sail solo starrers these days. The actor barely has an audience since a long time. Laal Kaptaan has a first day at 0.5cr and that’s about as big an initial he can deliver. Saif as a supporting actor, I can understand. But as a main lead in mainstream venture??
War has done 295 cr till Saturday and is bound to cross 300 cr today. Doubt if HF4 or Dabangg3 can beat its end total. Its after 13 years that HR got a highest grosser of the year for Bollywood since Dhoom2 in 2006, in the same genre.
If it happens, HR will break Aamir’s “record” of a 12 year gap between HGOTYs. SRK, if he ever has another HGOTY, will have an even bigger gap. Dilip Kumar has the all time record here with a 20 year gap between Ganga Jamuna and Kranti.
Aamir’s 12 years gap between RH and Ghajini consists of 3-4 years of break in between. Nonetheless, some of his best films released in this period – Sarfarosh, Lagaan, DCH, RDB, TZP. Such a “record” is most welcome again for Aamir!
I’m betting on Dabangg 3 (Hindi) to beat War (Hindi) total as for Hindi domestic grossers, purely Hindi vs Hindi collections need to be considered. However, If War indeed manages the best among the lot in Hindi, it would be a 4th for HR (only behind the Khan’s among whom SRK has the least with 5). Ranbir’s got 1 among the new comers (although had Padmaavat had a full release it would easily have crossed Sanju), Prabhas has 1 while Akshay & Ajay are yet to open account. Akshay’s best bet seems HF4 or Prithviraj while Ajay’s best bet is in the Hindi version of Rajamouli’s next RRR where he’d be in a supporting role.
I remember there was a time during the 90s when various trade journalists or newspapers awarded the ‘Star of the Year’ by doing a balancing act taking into account the actors who have given the highest amounts of hits and taking into account how big the hits were. During those times, actors were working in more films simultaneously, so the hits counts and the hits versus flops ratio mattered a lot. It was not really only about the single highest grosser.
So, in 1998 for e.g, Salman was Star of the Year when he had several hits like Pyar Kiya to Darna Kya, Jab Pyar Kisi Se Hota Hai , Bandhan (a big hit in the interiors) and a important cameo in KKHH. SRK, on the other had the biggest blockbuster (KKHH) but had 2 flops (Dil Se and Duplicate). So, when hits were tallied up, the likes of Taran and Komal gave it to Salman.
I think most actors today seem to doing less work (except for Akshay and Ayushman), so taking into account the hits count may be unfair on the rest. But still, the sole highest grosser should not be the only benchmark. It limits things way too much. By that perspective, Sunny Deol had 3 highest grossers of the year within a spell of 10-11 years. He was a big draw at that time but I don’t think he was dominating that era as much these stats may infer.
In the same vein, HR’s 3 highest grossers of the year may be very deceiving. He has been great in spells. But over the last 10 years or so, he has done disappearing acts or underperformed and it a no-brainer that the likes of Ajay and Akshay have been way more relevant pr prolific BO-wise. I am full of praises for HR’s comeback and very glad to see this year’s success. I am sure his ceiling may be right among the highest ones currently if he chooses his next projects well enough. But limiting stats to the highest grossing movie of the year may be quite deceiving.
Hrithik has broken opening day records and got the top grosser multiple times. Likewise Salman, Aamir and SRK.
The simple question is why not Akshay? What has limited his ability in 25+ years not to strike at all? I mean Ranbir has done it. Hollywood and south dubbed have too. No one doubts Akshay is successful. That is not a doubt.
But point on Akshay is he has ZERO ATG or HGOAT or hgoty etc. I do get your point but all said and done even career flops/disasters Akshay leads even if he has more hits. Once you put everything in mixer bowl likes of Hrithik, SRK, Aamir and Salman have always been considered bigger than him.
Who in the market or trade is calling him #1?
It’s not about Akshay. I don’t think he is No. 1. It is just that the highest grosser of the year is not the end all and be all. It is one of the main criterias, but not the only one.
Sunny Deol was a huge star & crowd puller in his hey days. HGOTY might be deceiving when looked at from a short term perspective. However then looked at for a particular performer for over a period of 2-3 decades, its a somewhat accurate indicative of consolidated stardom over an extended period of time. Akshay & Ajay might have remained more “relevant” than HR over the last 6 years (thanks to more number of films) but one cannot deny the fact that neither Ajay & not even Akshay have ever witnessed the kind of popularity & craze witnessed by HR during his “peak” in 2000, 2003 & 2006 (the after effects of which are still being felt till today with War breaking the opening record on day 1 while Agneepath did the same in 2012 when HR was well past his peak). Popularity & craze witnessed during an actor’s peak phases is what stardom is all about. Not so much about delivering consistent low end hits through economically viable films, or else Emraan Hashmi would be a top bill between 2008-2011 while Ayushmann would be #2 right now after Akshay.
Good points. I do agree with most of what you say in there. All the factors mentioned in there along with Jay’s should be taken into account. It provides a much better balanced perspective. The whole point was merely about this: Biggest Yearly grossers do not always reveal the whole story.
If, for e.g. Dabang 3 ends up with 310cr while War ends at 300cr, it shouldn’t mean that Salman has owned the year. Bharat worked only moderately well, so it does come into the balance.
A single parameter is never enough. Agreed.
However the only things Akshay’s ahead on are volume and # of hits. Only in 07 did he have an opening record (SIK), that too got smashed within weeks by RNBDJ and Ghajini. He’s never come close again. Getting to lifetime records or overseas or whatever is difficult. If it hasn’t already happened it’s difficult.
Hrithik floated for years and BANG in one year he’s smashed opening day record! Only really Hrithik, SRK, Salman and Aamir have shown this capability.
If it happens for Akshay Kumar I’ll be there to applaud Naveen’s lifelong dream. Maybe soon with HF4!
Others are relying on past generation history and future hope.
Here is a counter logic to beat the current No 1 star.
To beat Akshay’s model of HITs since last 1 year (2point0 – 185 Cr, Kesari – 155 Cr, Mission Mangal – 204 Cr) , you need to give a blockbuster every year. If it is Highest grosser it just means it is a blockbuster. Highest grosser also depends on other releases. So many times those are not in your hand.
So far i do not see anyone doing it and I see Akshay only doing better every year since last 3 years.
I do concede that not having highest grosser even once goes against Akshay. He doesn’t stand tall.
BUT, here is my hope.
He is the only star whose next releases look better than previous releases. No other star’s next movie is looking better than their last. Tell me one.
With Super 30 and War, this is very much Hrithik’s year untill now. Akshay Kumar, Ayushman Khurana, Vicky Kaushal and Shahid have had done very well. Akshay Kumar still has a couple of releases until the end of the year while Salman has Dabangg 3 but right now Hrithi tops it.
Having watched War, it is Hrithik’s film, first and foremost. He is the biggest winner in there. Tiger lends him a tremendous supporting hand (it is Tiger’s best all-round performance until now), but make no mistake, HR is the main guy in there.
Assuming Akshay gives a big hit in Housefull 4 and Good News, and that Akshay will lead far far ahead to a crowning glory, it would still not deny Hrithik the rise. He is now again noticed and trust me it is not easy when Ranveer and Ranbir had zoomed past him in recent years.
If we start talking about gross instead of nett, then Dangal has already started the 500 cr gross club for bollywood. And PK is #2 even after 5 years from its release. The first 300 cr nett film was in fact the first 450+ cr India grosser, and no bollywood film has done that till now except Dangal of course.
since some movies get tax free status, i think someone long back felt nett was more appropriate for comparison over gross. which is not so in other markets.
Comparing nett in times of changing taxes gives wrong picture. War is going to end at around 315 cr nett, which is 375 cr gross. However, its really not ahead of Padmaavat, whose all versions all india gross was 387 cr and nett was 302 cr.
Gross numbers are best used for comparative analysis. For judging a film’s economic success as a parameter in itself, Nett & Distributor share are the only factors taken into the picture.
Actors Shahrukh Khan and Aamir Khan have hailed Prime Minister Narendra Modi for his initiative to give the responsibility of popularising Mahatma Gandhi’s ideals to the film industry. PM Modi on Saturday interacted with the members of the creative and entertainment world on the ways to mark the 150th birth anniversary of Mahatma Gandhi. The interaction was held at 7, Lok Kalyan Marg, New Delhi.
“First and foremost, I want to appreciate PM for thinking about this effort [further popularising the ideals of Bapu]. As creative people, there is much we can do. And, I assure the PM that we will do even more,” Aamir Khan said.
Actor Shahrukh Khan said, “I would like to thank PM Narendra Modi for bringing us all together, that too for a cause such as this [Mahatma Gandhi]. I feel we need to re-introduce Gandhi ji to India and the world.”
At the event, director Aanand L Rai praised PM Modi for giving them the responsibility of popularizing Mahatma Gandhi’s ideals by involving them in the initiative.
Look at Saif- He looks so good when he comes as a second lead.
Ajay Paa ji ka another superhit. His eyes are the best we have in Hindi film industry. Kya rage hai.
Tanhaji is sure shot hit. Does Ajay have enough dare to show the true story where Saif’s character Uday Rathod will kill Tanhaji? Tanhaji will die in the end but he might kill Uday as well before his death in the movie. Like the cheap way Bhansali made Khilji’s sidekick kill Shahid in Padmaavat(when its not even true by any stretch of imagination).
The last fifty years has seen Diwali dominated by two actors, Amitabh Bachchan and Shahrukh Khan
The biggest blockbusters released on Diwali since 1970 are as follows. There could be some big blockbusters before 1970 but that is something to be checked for next Diwali. The list consists of 23 films which have proved to be SUPER HIT or better with a Diwali release. The films before 1994 have not been tabulated to the exact figure so an apprx figure is given.
Krrish 3 did 19 Cr in Hindi way back in 2013 being a huge franchise film. Ideally, adjusted for inflation, HF4 which is a huge franchise in itself (perhaps not as big as the Koi Mil Gaya/Krrish franchise) should be chasing at least 25 Cr (if not more) on the same Dhanteras release.
25 Cr looks very tough esp with 2 mid sized films taking 700-800 screens each. They will be decimated but the screen loss will not help to get this number.
40 Cr+ on Monday is what would compensate this. Housefull 4 can be the biggest Diwali Grosser if the movie turns out as per the trailer.
Without going into much details – 2 of the movies tagged as hits are outright flops and that too in succession. – Brothers and Singh is Bling with neverthless Karan Johar and Prabhu Deva!
Other 6 were semi hits. None of them flopped due to the controlled budget.
Rajesh Khanna’s hits include – Aradhana, Ittefaq, Doli, Bandhan, Do Raaste, The Train, Sachaa Jhutha, Safar, kati Patang, Aan Milo Sajna, Anand, Maryada, Haathi Mera Saathi, Amar Prem, Andaz, Dushman and Apna Desh.
I am sure this list also has few films that were not clean hits.
Another article about consecutive successes by Akshay, which i think most would agree-
If Housefull 4 meets expectations of film analysts, it will be Akshay’s 11th consecutive box office hit in last three years. Starting from Airlift (2016), till Mission Mangal (2019), the actor has not given a single flop since 2016.
Good change. See, I am an eternally optimistic person. 🙂
I think the producer, Rohit Shetty has correctly removed each and every trace that could link this movie to the original Satte Pe Satta. Else any comparison would have hurt the film.
Now the movie with a new title and storyline looks like a new film. There could be 2 songs which would be used but that would go like a remix now.
Farha has to gain back her magic which i saw and liked in Main Hoon Naa.
SATYAMSHOT 
October 16, 2019 at 9:08 PM
https://www.livemint.com/industry/media/for-bollywood-2019-is-a-blockbuster-year-11570041057505.html
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October 16, 2019 at 10:54 PM
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October 17, 2019 at 2:41 AM
All languages should reach 300Cr before HF4.
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October 16, 2019 at 11:06 PM
Yash Raj’s forthcoming movies – which one will go into top 10?
Mardaani 2 – Dec 2019
Joyesh Bhai Jordaar starring Ranveer Singh
Shamshera – 31 July 2020
Prithviraj – Diwali 2020
Sandeep aur Pinky Faraar
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October 17, 2019 at 4:59 AM
Shamshera vs Prithviraj. Both should be there i guess.
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October 17, 2019 at 6:04 AM
Both Forrest Gump and Vikram Vedha are good films and Aamir’s next 2 are remakes of them. Chances are both will turn out good pieces of cinema. The challenge will be to live up to the reputations of the originals. Not sure of the material in Mogul though. But Aamir not letting it go suggests the script is good. Good times for Aamir fans with 3 back to back films on his platter.
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October 17, 2019 at 6:06 AM
If true of course plus get the feeling Mahabharata is waiting in the background too.
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October 17, 2019 at 11:10 AM
jay, your thoughts on bojo’s recent brexit offer that eu negotiator has agreed to? how different is it from may’s offer?
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/world-news/britain-european-union-reach-brexit-deal/articleshow/71630454.cms
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October 17, 2019 at 11:15 AM
are you a torie or a labour party supporter?
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October 17, 2019 at 11:19 AM
Use to be Labour and last voted Tory. Honestly don’t care! They are all stupid politicians who will vote against if it promoted their interests.
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October 17, 2019 at 11:16 AM
It’s different as it removes the Irish border backstop. I think Boris Johnson may have finally delivered a deal here. If an extension is not forced only 3 options exist
No deal
Accept deal
Revoke Article 50 and stay in EU. I think it’s going to be a close vote now. Hopefully they agree.
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October 17, 2019 at 11:57 AM
if BoJo has indeed delivered and gets all the support, it’s super news for the Brits.
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October 17, 2019 at 2:23 PM
I don’t know the details but hopefully this farce ends on Saturday. Brexit chatter needs to finish asap.
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October 18, 2019 at 8:59 AM
As per reports VV remake is being planned to go on floors in April and shoot to be completed in 2-3 months. If so, it provides a possibility of back to back releases for aamir in 2020 – LSC in Diwali and VV in Christmas. I hope Aamir reads this (as Naveen keeps claiming)!
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October 17, 2019 at 8:47 AM
Mogul also has RKH’s endorsement
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October 17, 2019 at 2:26 PM
I wonder who’re these distributors willing to invest in Saif Ali Khan films nowadays. Lal Kaptaan carries zero buzz & zero anticipation. A monumental disaster on the cards. Being a billionaire nawab himself, Saif should have some mercy on distributors & exhibitors and stick to Netflix or Amazon unless he gets to play second fiddle to Aamir or Srk in any of their films. I remember the troll Krk recently remarking that even Saif’s own family member Kunal Khemu might have greater fan following today than Saif. For once I did agree with him.
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October 17, 2019 at 8:30 PM
Also, the women Kareena, Sara Ali, Soha Ali and even Amrita Singh. Taimur also enjoys more popularity than his dad.
And his dog and driver too..
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October 18, 2019 at 2:03 AM
I like almost all Saif’s performances these days. His BO pull is probably gone but he does act well. And being rich doesn’t mean he can sell his film. When distributors know they are going to make a loss, they won’t buy. But by that logic then half of all the films won’t get released.
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October 17, 2019 at 8:38 PM
Rightly put
https://in.style.yahoo.com/dear-akshay-padman-mission-mangal-092623127.html
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October 18, 2019 at 12:34 AM
Top Twenty Grossers All Formats – Saaho 9th War 12th
Wednesday 16 October 2019 11.45 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
Saaho finished with a total of 302 crore nett across India making it the ninth highest NETT grosser of all time if we take business of all Indian films across all formats. The top ten sees six films from the Hindi film industry and four from the South but the top three films are all from South and they are the only 3 films to cross 40 crore nett.
Its pretty easy to see the judge the difference between these three films and the Hindi films and that is these films are larger than life and made for cinema and that is why they put up big numbers in Hindi markets which they needed for these huge numbers. The 400 crore nett number is still proving elusive for Hindi cinema which it should not as ticket prices are higher than two years back and taxes are far less. So even if GROSS records are not being hit, the NETT records should be easily achievable.
Saaho had a so so performance in the South and had it performed there as expected it would have meant the top four being non Hindi films. War is probably aiming at a top ten finish also and presently stands at number twelve. The top twenty NETT grossers on all formats across India are as follows.
1. Bahubali – The Conclusion – 1115.86 crore
2. Bahubali – The Beginning – 418.54 crore
3. 2.0 – 413.30 crore
4. Dangal – 387.29 crore
5. Tiger Zinda Hai – 339.00 crore
6. PK – 337.72 crore
7. Sanju – 334.58 crore
8. Bajrangi Bhaijaan – 315.49 crore
9. Saaho – 302.31 crore
10. Sultan – 300.67 crore
11. Padmaavat – 295.46 crore
12. War – 277 crore apprx (14 days)
13. Kabir Singh – 276.34 crore
14. Dhoom 3 – 271.53 crore
15. Uri – The Surgical Strike – 244.01 crore
16. Simmba – 239.85 crore
17. Kick – 211.63 crore
18. Chennai Express – 207.69 crore
19. Enthiran – 205.87 crore
20. Golmaal Again – 205.50 crore
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October 18, 2019 at 1:48 AM
Lol! Why not take the dubbed versions of all Hindi films too if that’s been done for these South films?
In fact why not take a step ahead and include worldwide gross? But we all know why BOI would shy away from it!
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October 18, 2019 at 1:58 AM
Worldwide gross they see it privately every day, shed tears, look in the mirror angrily, promise to take revenge and out of the blue come up with articles which are cringeworthy, strange, illogical and embarrassing. Bollywood style!!
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October 18, 2019 at 4:13 AM
How’s it bollywood style when the article is motivated to degrade bollywood itself? As i’ve always maintained, its either gotta be Hindi vs Hindi or Telugu vs Telugu in gross terms (as Hindi & southern domestic markets barring B’lore & Hy’bad city are totally isolated) or its gotta be worldwide vs worldwide all version together (in which case boi’s propaganda of degrading multiplex films & promoting pungent retrograde masala junk would be ripped apart). Either ways, even Saaho is an outright Hindi film itself as it was shot entirely in Hindi with an actor who enjoys huge following in the Hindi belt & a bollywood actress too. 2.0’s Hindi version too had Akshay & some of the rest mouthing dialogues in Hindi and with Akshay’s presence it became a pan India film too, releasing in 7500 screens.
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October 18, 2019 at 4:41 AM
It’s useless to segregate. We are only asking for all India or WW collections on gross basis – all those splits of Hindi vs Hindi etc can still be done.
It’s like any big company reports it’s big numbers and then segments after for deeper drivers. Here in India you don’t get the big numbers just the nett and shoddy contrived comparisons to suit oneself.
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October 18, 2019 at 7:33 AM
All India, all versions has no relevance as the interiors of AP/Telangana, TN etc are as alien for a Hindi film as the Chinese or Japanese market. Outright Hindi films like War & Padmaavat hardly find 100-150 screens for their dubbed versions down south while dubbed Telugu films find almost 4000 screens in Hindi along with face value for the Hindi version (Akshay in 2.0, Ajay/Alia in RRR, Sanjay in Kgf 2). Bahubali was a once in a generation exception, a Sholay moment but even there it was the cult popularity of part 1 that generated the hype, anticipation & craze for part 2. Part 1 itself was a healthy 120 cr in Hindi but not extraordinary. Its unfair to compare Hindi films getting 4500 screens pan India with Telugu or Tamil films which release in 7500 screens, which are multilingual & have healthy face value for the Hindi audience too. In the scenario of an “all languages, all versions” comparison only a global comparison would make sense, that too only for those films which release in the Chinese market.
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October 18, 2019 at 2:12 AM
What is the point of comparing Net collection after tax rate changes ?
Gross collection should be compared.
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October 18, 2019 at 2:40 AM
Indeed. These lists have different motivations and meanings.
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October 18, 2019 at 2:40 AM
NETT should have never been criteria at any point.
Gross and Distributor share are relevant information regarding totality of business and profitability.
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October 18, 2019 at 2:46 AM
Yes logically all of it gets taxed. Gross is sufficient as well as purchase price.
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October 18, 2019 at 5:29 AM
I see no reasons for the brouhaha here. This is All india nett for Indian movies. I think it is fare to compare.
It does put Baahubali Conclusion to be a tall tower dwarfing everything else, but that’s a reality.
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October 18, 2019 at 5:36 AM
This table is not applied when Hindi movie collections are compared or shared. South collections are regularly ignored and vv for South films. It’s done for propaganda – everyone knows BB2 is huge and everything else literally is a fraction of it!
I’d use Taran Adarsh numbers for War all India. They include dubbed versions.
Wake up guys it’s ALL INDIA and nearly 2020, not exclusive to a specific language or region. We are not in dark ages.
It’s like US excluding Texas because of some stupid reasons!
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October 18, 2019 at 5:40 AM
If Taran publishes All india, I will be fine with that as well. It will also not change the projection/graph. Yes a 10-15 Cr difference, that’s all.
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October 18, 2019 at 5:45 AM
It’s pretty easy to do. Professional way is give all India first then break it down. Other way round is confusing and obviously done deliberately.
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October 18, 2019 at 10:07 AM
Its not as easy or straightforward as it seems. Hindi films that get dubbed in Telugu & Tamil hardly get 100-150 screens in the interiors of AP/TN while mainstream Telugu films being dubbed into Hindi are being distributed by the likes of Dharma & Excel & release in a good 4000+ screens in Hindi. Plus the likes of 2.0, Saaho & now the upcoming RRR have huge Bollywood star value which makes these films commercially viable for the Hindi audience while being lapped up by their home audience too. For an outright Hindi film like War or Dangal, the AP/TN & Karnataka interiors (outside Hy’bad & Bangalore city) is as much an alien territory as the Chinese or Japanese market. While the likes of 2.0, RRR and the upcoming Kgf 2 are already almost as much Hindi films as they are regional. Bahubali 2 can be kept aside as that’s a once in a generation Sholay moment in Indian cinema & that too came about only thanks to the anticipation, craze & buzz created by BB1 which had zero face value in the Hindi belt & hence despite its sensational trend and word of mouth couldn’t go beyond a healthy 120 Cr nett. Since then, the likes of 2.0 & Saaho both release in 7500+ screens pan India while Dangal, Padmaavat and War hardly got 4000-4500. Hence for comparison of all versions, all languages, only a worldwide vs worldwide makes sense that too only for films that see a China release. Else we need to stick to Hindi vs Hindi in which case War as of now stands at 275 Cr compared to the 280 odd of Kabir Singh (which didn’t have a regional dubbed release).
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October 18, 2019 at 6:59 AM
War has done well – 288 cr and counting. Should cross 300 by this weekend.
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October 18, 2019 at 7:21 AM
Not surprising, but not sure why i felt happy about this severe headache 🙂
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October 18, 2019 at 11:36 AM
Haha
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October 18, 2019 at 3:33 PM
Dabangg 3 and Radhe
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October 18, 2019 at 4:31 PM
Doublw role?
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October 18, 2019 at 4:32 PM
Double*
Looks like wanted/dabang mix.
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October 18, 2019 at 5:37 PM
no. two pics – christmas 2019 dabangg 3
eid 2020 radhe
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October 18, 2019 at 6:32 PM
Oh, didn’t catch that.
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October 18, 2019 at 7:37 PM
Salman Vs Akshay clash is on.
2019:
I will be keenly watching the fate of Dabangg3 Vs Good News. This is not a direct clash but still a semi clash sort of. I will not be surprised if both does more or less same business and that would be another Jhatka for Salman’s fans. They are already reeling under slowdown in the business of Salman’s movies but not accepting it. Saying an Eid Release and doubly priced Bharat made 5 Cr more than Mission Mangal is already an acceptance of defeat. Even when 2point0 and Kesari’s performance are not invoked and that Housefull 4 will easily sail through (will also be a bigger hit than Dabangg3), it is clear that in last 2 years Akshay’s films have overtaken Salman’s.
Data, perception, popularity and power – it is all favouring Akshay now.
BUT
Salman’s fans have taken Eid 2020 on their ego. This is the final frontier for those fans who can be quite abusive if you try to engage with in a debate. They are going bonkers ever since Suryavanshi was announced on Eid and then preponed and then Laaxmi was confirmed. I can understand their rage. It is like Pakistan who suddenly realise that Kashmir is gone after article 370 was reversed.
And as a keen observer of trends, i am more confident about trending of Laaxmi Bomb and almost certain that Laxxmi bomb would do 50% more business than Radhe. Likh ke de rahein hain. But both will be far less than Suryavanshi and Prithviraj.
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October 19, 2019 at 1:31 AM
I never ever doubt you would bet against any Akshay movie but do agree both the semi clashes might end up closer as both Salman films feel just front loaded.
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October 19, 2019 at 1:45 AM
Even if they do more business, the fact will always remain that Akshay never has and never will see the craze & rage witnessed by SK between 94-99 & 2010-16. At least let Akshay first deliver a single Hgoty or All timer before comparing him with a guy whose delivered 9!
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October 19, 2019 at 3:17 AM
“Akshay never has and never will see the craze & rage witnessed by SK between 94-99 & 2010-16”
Yes, i agree. That was true stardom. Will never deny that and i love Salman for what he was doing then.
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October 19, 2019 at 2:49 AM
I think you are betting on wrong films. Your dreams may come true if you pitch Houseful 4 against Dabangg 3 and Suryavanshi against Radhe and compare business. But Salman’s movies will also do good, if not better.
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October 19, 2019 at 9:15 AM
I think i pitched it right. 🙂
You will see soon.
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October 19, 2019 at 5:45 AM
Obnoxious stuff this
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October 19, 2019 at 8:00 AM
The stuff mastered by tatoo kumar in his mostly potty films till he joined hands with neeraj pandey to deliver some sense. I guess he & his garbage fans been missing his braindead status quo for too long now.
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October 19, 2019 at 9:14 AM
Kyon thak rahe ho? 😀
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October 19, 2019 at 9:26 AM
Shivaay, Watch this video. You will feel relaxed.
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October 19, 2019 at 2:39 PM
I’d rather watch movies like your own darling Akki’s Special 26 or Jolly than watch promotional videos of junk films 😁
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October 19, 2019 at 11:31 PM
or Baby over Hey Baby for sure
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October 19, 2019 at 8:55 AM
The hand signal is a direct lift from The Dictator
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October 19, 2019 at 9:18 AM
This entire song and tune is also borrowed from Tony Montana’s song. Copyright was purchased last year from him.
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October 19, 2019 at 9:33 AM
Tony Montana is the Scarface character from that movie starring Al Pacino in the title role.
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October 19, 2019 at 9:12 AM
This is hoot
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October 19, 2019 at 9:20 AM
The No 1 star of Bollywood is carrying the entire promotion on this solo song. This is a rage. Cannot wait to watch it in theatre.
Seeti, Taali….Blockbuster song. A popular choice now in every disc in India.
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October 20, 2019 at 1:26 AM
It can be a sort of guilty pleasure. But why like something just because it has the potential to be a blockbuster?
There’s stuff that sells like hotcakes in the interiors of the Indian hinterland, B-grade softporn or the likes of trashy Mithun starters. Then there’s stuff like Masaan that they’d shun right away. Would you call the former better cinema?
Somewhere a line has to be drawn. The audience is not always right.
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October 20, 2019 at 6:24 AM
It is a bit like Martin Scorsese saying Marvel movies are not cinema. One needs to enjoy cinema rather than restrict it to his wants and needs. Cinema is a medium to explore and not to restrict. If Akshay does a Housefull 4 one in 1 year, i would never appreciate that. But look at him man-
A superb villain in 2point0
A warrior in Kesari
A scientist in Mission Mangal
A crazy king in Housefull
in last 12 months. His next 6 are all in diverse genres. He is doing a film like Housefull after years and reinventing successfully which other stars find it so hard to do (reinvention).
I am in awe of his abilities and his range. To be frank, Shivaay is jealous of this. Tell me one superstar who can pull off Bala. No Aamir, Hrithik, SRK can pull this off…Salman and Devgn can try but he cannot match. I can only see Ranveer doing it.
So this makes me clap when AKshay attempt this so brilliantly and successfully. It also makes me wonder of the limited cinematic understanding of those who cannot appreciate this.
Other thing is there are 2 genres which are not made everytime – Uber auctioneers like War and Slapstick comedy like Housefull 4.
I love these genres and usually tend to like them a lot. These genres are loved every where in india and by every class.
Few actually trying to make Housefull-4 a B centre movie but they know and fear the business the A centres multiplex will do. It will be by and large the same audience who like War and Dangal that will come for Housefull 4. It is entertainment after all.
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October 22, 2019 at 12:07 PM
No one denies Akshay’s comic timing and there’s nothing in it for me to be jealous of (I’m not his competitor, rival or even in the same field of work). However slapstick comedy too can be genuinely funny instead of just silly, lame rehased junk that’s being fed by franchises like Golmaal, Dhamaal & HF. The best examples of genuinely funny slapstick films would be Andaaz Apna Apna & Akshay’s very own Hera Pheri. Bachchan pulled off a classic slapstick act in Namak Halaal back in his hey days. Any kinda comedy’s gotta be genuinely funny, not corrosive junk like the Shetty’s, Bazmee’s and Farah/Sajid’s of the industry make to fill their coffers. PS, even 3 Idiots’ got plenty of slapstick moments esp with Chatur on screen. Genuinely funny one’s.
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October 20, 2019 at 2:28 AM
I am wondering who are the producers financing Sail solo starrers these days. The actor barely has an audience since a long time. Laal Kaptaan has a first day at 0.5cr and that’s about as big an initial he can deliver. Saif as a supporting actor, I can understand. But as a main lead in mainstream venture??
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October 20, 2019 at 2:51 AM
maybe his wife and in laws hoping he can do an akshay kumar with the khannas.
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October 20, 2019 at 3:57 AM
War has done 295 cr till Saturday and is bound to cross 300 cr today. Doubt if HF4 or Dabangg3 can beat its end total. Its after 13 years that HR got a highest grosser of the year for Bollywood since Dhoom2 in 2006, in the same genre.
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October 20, 2019 at 4:42 AM
If it happens, HR will break Aamir’s “record” of a 12 year gap between HGOTYs. SRK, if he ever has another HGOTY, will have an even bigger gap. Dilip Kumar has the all time record here with a 20 year gap between Ganga Jamuna and Kranti.
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October 20, 2019 at 5:00 AM
Aamir’s 12 years gap between RH and Ghajini consists of 3-4 years of break in between. Nonetheless, some of his best films released in this period – Sarfarosh, Lagaan, DCH, RDB, TZP. Such a “record” is most welcome again for Aamir!
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October 20, 2019 at 5:27 AM
Yeah creatively that was Aamir’s best phase no doubt.
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October 22, 2019 at 12:00 PM
I’m betting on Dabangg 3 (Hindi) to beat War (Hindi) total as for Hindi domestic grossers, purely Hindi vs Hindi collections need to be considered. However, If War indeed manages the best among the lot in Hindi, it would be a 4th for HR (only behind the Khan’s among whom SRK has the least with 5). Ranbir’s got 1 among the new comers (although had Padmaavat had a full release it would easily have crossed Sanju), Prabhas has 1 while Akshay & Ajay are yet to open account. Akshay’s best bet seems HF4 or Prithviraj while Ajay’s best bet is in the Hindi version of Rajamouli’s next RRR where he’d be in a supporting role.
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October 23, 2019 at 3:50 AM
I remember there was a time during the 90s when various trade journalists or newspapers awarded the ‘Star of the Year’ by doing a balancing act taking into account the actors who have given the highest amounts of hits and taking into account how big the hits were. During those times, actors were working in more films simultaneously, so the hits counts and the hits versus flops ratio mattered a lot. It was not really only about the single highest grosser.
So, in 1998 for e.g, Salman was Star of the Year when he had several hits like Pyar Kiya to Darna Kya, Jab Pyar Kisi Se Hota Hai , Bandhan (a big hit in the interiors) and a important cameo in KKHH. SRK, on the other had the biggest blockbuster (KKHH) but had 2 flops (Dil Se and Duplicate). So, when hits were tallied up, the likes of Taran and Komal gave it to Salman.
I think most actors today seem to doing less work (except for Akshay and Ayushman), so taking into account the hits count may be unfair on the rest. But still, the sole highest grosser should not be the only benchmark. It limits things way too much. By that perspective, Sunny Deol had 3 highest grossers of the year within a spell of 10-11 years. He was a big draw at that time but I don’t think he was dominating that era as much these stats may infer.
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October 23, 2019 at 4:07 AM
In the same vein, HR’s 3 highest grossers of the year may be very deceiving. He has been great in spells. But over the last 10 years or so, he has done disappearing acts or underperformed and it a no-brainer that the likes of Ajay and Akshay have been way more relevant pr prolific BO-wise. I am full of praises for HR’s comeback and very glad to see this year’s success. I am sure his ceiling may be right among the highest ones currently if he chooses his next projects well enough. But limiting stats to the highest grossing movie of the year may be quite deceiving.
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October 23, 2019 at 4:22 AM
Hrithik has broken opening day records and got the top grosser multiple times. Likewise Salman, Aamir and SRK.
The simple question is why not Akshay? What has limited his ability in 25+ years not to strike at all? I mean Ranbir has done it. Hollywood and south dubbed have too. No one doubts Akshay is successful. That is not a doubt.
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October 23, 2019 at 4:12 AM
But point on Akshay is he has ZERO ATG or HGOAT or hgoty etc. I do get your point but all said and done even career flops/disasters Akshay leads even if he has more hits. Once you put everything in mixer bowl likes of Hrithik, SRK, Aamir and Salman have always been considered bigger than him.
Who in the market or trade is calling him #1?
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October 23, 2019 at 4:24 AM
It’s not about Akshay. I don’t think he is No. 1. It is just that the highest grosser of the year is not the end all and be all. It is one of the main criterias, but not the only one.
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October 23, 2019 at 4:28 AM
Of course.
Opening day record
Renumeration
Strike rate
Highest grosser
Consistency
Variety
All parameters can be applied.
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October 23, 2019 at 6:31 AM
Don’t forget, SRK also has a ZERO!! 😉
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October 23, 2019 at 4:23 AM
Sunny Deol was a huge star & crowd puller in his hey days. HGOTY might be deceiving when looked at from a short term perspective. However then looked at for a particular performer for over a period of 2-3 decades, its a somewhat accurate indicative of consolidated stardom over an extended period of time. Akshay & Ajay might have remained more “relevant” than HR over the last 6 years (thanks to more number of films) but one cannot deny the fact that neither Ajay & not even Akshay have ever witnessed the kind of popularity & craze witnessed by HR during his “peak” in 2000, 2003 & 2006 (the after effects of which are still being felt till today with War breaking the opening record on day 1 while Agneepath did the same in 2012 when HR was well past his peak). Popularity & craze witnessed during an actor’s peak phases is what stardom is all about. Not so much about delivering consistent low end hits through economically viable films, or else Emraan Hashmi would be a top bill between 2008-2011 while Ayushmann would be #2 right now after Akshay.
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October 23, 2019 at 4:37 AM
Good points. I do agree with most of what you say in there. All the factors mentioned in there along with Jay’s should be taken into account. It provides a much better balanced perspective. The whole point was merely about this: Biggest Yearly grossers do not always reveal the whole story.
If, for e.g. Dabang 3 ends up with 310cr while War ends at 300cr, it shouldn’t mean that Salman has owned the year. Bharat worked only moderately well, so it does come into the balance.
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October 23, 2019 at 9:35 AM
A single parameter is never enough. Agreed.
However the only things Akshay’s ahead on are volume and # of hits. Only in 07 did he have an opening record (SIK), that too got smashed within weeks by RNBDJ and Ghajini. He’s never come close again. Getting to lifetime records or overseas or whatever is difficult. If it hasn’t already happened it’s difficult.
Hrithik floated for years and BANG in one year he’s smashed opening day record! Only really Hrithik, SRK, Salman and Aamir have shown this capability.
If it happens for Akshay Kumar I’ll be there to applaud Naveen’s lifelong dream. Maybe soon with HF4!
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October 23, 2019 at 7:19 PM
Others are relying on past generation history and future hope.
Here is a counter logic to beat the current No 1 star.
To beat Akshay’s model of HITs since last 1 year (2point0 – 185 Cr, Kesari – 155 Cr, Mission Mangal – 204 Cr) , you need to give a blockbuster every year. If it is Highest grosser it just means it is a blockbuster. Highest grosser also depends on other releases. So many times those are not in your hand.
So far i do not see anyone doing it and I see Akshay only doing better every year since last 3 years.
I do concede that not having highest grosser even once goes against Akshay. He doesn’t stand tall.
BUT, here is my hope.
He is the only star whose next releases look better than previous releases. No other star’s next movie is looking better than their last. Tell me one.
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October 20, 2019 at 5:05 AM
With Super 30 and War, this is very much Hrithik’s year untill now. Akshay Kumar, Ayushman Khurana, Vicky Kaushal and Shahid have had done very well. Akshay Kumar still has a couple of releases until the end of the year while Salman has Dabangg 3 but right now Hrithi tops it.
Having watched War, it is Hrithik’s film, first and foremost. He is the biggest winner in there. Tiger lends him a tremendous supporting hand (it is Tiger’s best all-round performance until now), but make no mistake, HR is the main guy in there.
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October 20, 2019 at 6:29 AM
Assuming Akshay gives a big hit in Housefull 4 and Good News, and that Akshay will lead far far ahead to a crowning glory, it would still not deny Hrithik the rise. He is now again noticed and trust me it is not easy when Ranveer and Ranbir had zoomed past him in recent years.
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October 20, 2019 at 11:10 AM
I was looking up some of the gross figures for big BO films from Taran’s portal. Only 6 Bollywood films have grossed more than 400 cr in India:
1. Dangal – 538 cr
2. PK – 473 cr
3. Bajrangi Bhaijaan – 445 cr
4. Sanju – 439 cr
5. TZH – 435 cr
6. Sultan – 417 cr
I think we shud chuck Boi’s articles and start comparing gross vs gross for all box office discussions here.
War’s India gross is 351 cr till Saturday. Slim chance of it breaching 400 cr gross.
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October 20, 2019 at 11:49 AM
If we start talking about gross instead of nett, then Dangal has already started the 500 cr gross club for bollywood. And PK is #2 even after 5 years from its release. The first 300 cr nett film was in fact the first 450+ cr India grosser, and no bollywood film has done that till now except Dangal of course.
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October 20, 2019 at 6:46 PM
What is the reason that even by BOI or Taran Adarsh, Nett collection is accepted as real parameter to compare boxoffice?
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October 20, 2019 at 8:52 PM
since some movies get tax free status, i think someone long back felt nett was more appropriate for comparison over gross. which is not so in other markets.
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October 21, 2019 at 2:52 AM
Even for tax free films we shud look at the total money collected from the paying audience, which is the gross value.
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October 21, 2019 at 3:18 AM
right, but to gauge economic success, the DS is critical. which gross will be incorrectly projected for tax free situations.
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October 21, 2019 at 3:27 AM
Nett shouldn’t be considered. Gross is something user is willing to pay.
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October 21, 2019 at 3:39 AM
Comparing nett in times of changing taxes gives wrong picture. War is going to end at around 315 cr nett, which is 375 cr gross. However, its really not ahead of Padmaavat, whose all versions all india gross was 387 cr and nett was 302 cr.
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October 22, 2019 at 11:53 AM
Gross numbers are best used for comparative analysis. For judging a film’s economic success as a parameter in itself, Nett & Distributor share are the only factors taken into the picture.
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October 23, 2019 at 7:26 PM
Is Distributor’s cost included in the Distributor share?
I don’t think so. Except this everything looks logical.
So underline thing is Gross collection vis a vis distributor cost remains the best way to compare. Isn’t it?
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October 21, 2019 at 10:01 AM
Actors Shahrukh Khan and Aamir Khan have hailed Prime Minister Narendra Modi for his initiative to give the responsibility of popularising Mahatma Gandhi’s ideals to the film industry. PM Modi on Saturday interacted with the members of the creative and entertainment world on the ways to mark the 150th birth anniversary of Mahatma Gandhi. The interaction was held at 7, Lok Kalyan Marg, New Delhi.
“First and foremost, I want to appreciate PM for thinking about this effort [further popularising the ideals of Bapu]. As creative people, there is much we can do. And, I assure the PM that we will do even more,” Aamir Khan said.
Actor Shahrukh Khan said, “I would like to thank PM Narendra Modi for bringing us all together, that too for a cause such as this [Mahatma Gandhi]. I feel we need to re-introduce Gandhi ji to India and the world.”
At the event, director Aanand L Rai praised PM Modi for giving them the responsibility of popularizing Mahatma Gandhi’s ideals by involving them in the initiative.
https://www.indiatoday.in/movies/celebrities/story/srk-aamir-khan-hail-pm-modi-for-initiative-to-popularise-gandhi-s-ideals-via-film-industry-1611096-2019-10-19
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October 21, 2019 at 10:08 AM
It is fun seeing commies have their Lal Kaptaan knickers in a twist with Aamir and SRK by Modi’s side..the meltdown is simply hilarious .
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October 21, 2019 at 10:52 AM
Just a gimmick right before Maharashtra elections. Nothing else
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October 23, 2019 at 5:18 AM
while Akshay still can’t vote. How can he get into NRC?
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October 21, 2019 at 10:03 AM
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October 21, 2019 at 10:29 AM
SRK, Salman, Alia, Kangana only actors RKH hasn’t worked with in any movie so far
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October 23, 2019 at 3:13 PM
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October 23, 2019 at 3:57 PM
why were yrf missing? they were busy with giving us war on 150 bday of gandhiji
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October 21, 2019 at 10:18 AM
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October 21, 2019 at 6:49 PM
Look at Saif- He looks so good when he comes as a second lead.
Ajay Paa ji ka another superhit. His eyes are the best we have in Hindi film industry. Kya rage hai.
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October 22, 2019 at 11:50 AM
A well scripted & directed movie with these guys & this content can surely deliver something memorable. Fingers crossed!
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October 22, 2019 at 2:31 PM
Tanhaji is sure shot hit. Does Ajay have enough dare to show the true story where Saif’s character Uday Rathod will kill Tanhaji? Tanhaji will die in the end but he might kill Uday as well before his death in the movie. Like the cheap way Bhansali made Khilji’s sidekick kill Shahid in Padmaavat(when its not even true by any stretch of imagination).
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October 21, 2019 at 12:19 PM
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October 21, 2019 at 3:22 PM
Didn’t realize crappy Total Dhamaal made 150 crores!
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October 22, 2019 at 11:48 AM
Still found that more enjoyable than any of the HF or Golmaal junk (barring G1). Perhaps ‘coz it was almost similar to Dhamaal 1 in 2007.
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October 21, 2019 at 6:55 PM
3 Ekke (three aces) of 2019 :
Uri, Chichore and Kabir Singh – who would even given then a chance at the beginning of this year.
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October 21, 2019 at 7:06 PM
Opening of movies released during pre or Diwali day:
2016 Dhanteras:
#ADHM ~ 13 cr
#Shivaay ~ 9 cr
2013 Dhanteras:
#Krrish3 ~ 19 cr
2012 Diwali:
#JTHJ: 13.5 cr
#SOS: 9.5 cr
2011 Diwali:
#RaOne: 15 cr
Housefull 4 is looking at doing joint business of ADHM and Shivaay as of now on Friday. 22 Cr Friday.
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October 21, 2019 at 7:10 PM
Source BOI:
The last fifty years has seen Diwali dominated by two actors, Amitabh Bachchan and Shahrukh Khan
The biggest blockbusters released on Diwali since 1970 are as follows. There could be some big blockbusters before 1970 but that is something to be checked for next Diwali. The list consists of 23 films which have proved to be SUPER HIT or better with a Diwali release. The films before 1994 have not been tabulated to the exact figure so an apprx figure is given.
1. Muqaddar Ka Sikandar (1978) – 550 crore apprx
2. Dilwale Dulhania Le Jayenge (1995) – 461 crore
3. Mard (1985) – 425 crore apprx
https://boxofficeindia.com/report-details.php?articleid=4407
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October 23, 2019 at 4:30 AM
Krrish 3 did 19 Cr in Hindi way back in 2013 being a huge franchise film. Ideally, adjusted for inflation, HF4 which is a huge franchise in itself (perhaps not as big as the Koi Mil Gaya/Krrish franchise) should be chasing at least 25 Cr (if not more) on the same Dhanteras release.
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October 23, 2019 at 7:55 PM
Krrish 3 opening was very very big. I don’t think anyone comes close to Hrithik in this uber action genre.
Interestingly Boxofficeindia has deleted all the pages for Krish3 which gave daily numbers. It now has only one page. This has never happened.
This had Day 1 number. Now this page doesn’t exist.
http://boxofficeindia.com/boxnewsdetail.php?page=shownews&articleid=6194&nCat=
25 Cr looks very tough esp with 2 mid sized films taking 700-800 screens each. They will be decimated but the screen loss will not help to get this number.
40 Cr+ on Monday is what would compensate this. Housefull 4 can be the biggest Diwali Grosser if the movie turns out as per the trailer.
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October 22, 2019 at 5:06 PM
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October 23, 2019 at 3:51 AM
Now Akshay has entered the Steven Smith zone…every release one record broken and new one to make.
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October 23, 2019 at 4:03 AM
Lies. The only record Akshay Kumar has broken is having so many successes without actually breaking a record!
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October 23, 2019 at 10:52 AM
Without going into much details – 2 of the movies tagged as hits are outright flops and that too in succession. – Brothers and Singh is Bling with neverthless Karan Johar and Prabhu Deva!
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October 23, 2019 at 3:12 PM
Entertainment and Shaukeens (with an extended cameo by Akshay) also flopped
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October 23, 2019 at 7:33 PM
No flops here due to controlled cost.
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October 23, 2019 at 3:46 PM
This is lie
But Akshay must have a record of giving 5-6 disasters within a year
Police force(May 2004), Aan, Meri biwi ka jawab nahi, Mujhse Shaadi karogi(hit), Hatya, Aitraaj, Ab tumhare hawale watan saathiyo, Insaan(Jan 2005)
All movies except MSK and Aitraaz are disasters.
6 disasters in 8-9 months.
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October 23, 2019 at 7:37 PM
I think he gave 14 flops then. Any other star would have got evaporated, but not Akshay. He worked harder and…
What a turn around since then !!
Bollywood 2017-2020 will be Akshay Kumar years. 4 years of dominance.
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October 23, 2019 at 7:31 PM
Akshay Kumar’s hits include- Holiday, Entertainment, The Shaukeens, Baby, Gabbar Is Back, Brothers, Singh Is Bliing, Airlift, Housefull 3, Rustom, Jolly LLB 2, Toilet: Ek Prem Katha, Padman, Gold, 2.0, Kesari and Mission Mangal.
Clean HITs: Holiday, Baby, Gabbar, Airlift, Housefull3, Rustom, Jolly, Toilet, 2.0, Kesari, Mission Mangal
So out of 17, this is 11.
Other 6 were semi hits. None of them flopped due to the controlled budget.
Rajesh Khanna’s hits include – Aradhana, Ittefaq, Doli, Bandhan, Do Raaste, The Train, Sachaa Jhutha, Safar, kati Patang, Aan Milo Sajna, Anand, Maryada, Haathi Mera Saathi, Amar Prem, Andaz, Dushman and Apna Desh.
I am sure this list also has few films that were not clean hits.
So this evens out the analysis.
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October 23, 2019 at 7:42 PM
Another article about consecutive successes by Akshay, which i think most would agree-
If Housefull 4 meets expectations of film analysts, it will be Akshay’s 11th consecutive box office hit in last three years. Starting from Airlift (2016), till Mission Mangal (2019), the actor has not given a single flop since 2016.
https://www.businesstoday.in/trending/box-office/housefull-4-box-office-prediction-akshay-kumar-film-may-set-new-benchmark-for-diwali-releases/story/386283.html
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October 23, 2019 at 3:54 AM
Gosh! Fincher’s Seven remains one of my all time favourites and now I have to watch a Farah Khan film with that title!
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October 23, 2019 at 8:05 PM
Good change. See, I am an eternally optimistic person. 🙂
I think the producer, Rohit Shetty has correctly removed each and every trace that could link this movie to the original Satte Pe Satta. Else any comparison would have hurt the film.
Now the movie with a new title and storyline looks like a new film. There could be 2 songs which would be used but that would go like a remix now.
Farha has to gain back her magic which i saw and liked in Main Hoon Naa.
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October 23, 2019 at 8:17 PM
Munna -this is for the new thread
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