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If anything this is a wake up call for parents. What parent wants their child to be in trouble for something they’ve gotten away with for ages (if I believe rumours). Imagine how the disciplinary conversation between parents and child goes here. It will reek of hypocrisy and reputation of loss and probably more embarrassment for parents than child.
In the end this is just about whether you’re caught or not. Some can then influence outcome and others can’t.
Some folks are talking clearly without knowing facts and with clear hate.
Few facts – there was no party going on. The ship was still boarded with over 1300 people. Aryan and his friends entered near main entrance and went inside and were arrested right away. They arrested 8 people and then let the ship still with other 1300 folks. NCB didn’t stop the ship neither checked other 1300 folks, that would have taken a day or two. The rest enjoyed their trip as usual.
Secondly, Aryan was invited by media event planner. They do to attract sales of tickets and he invited as guest for this short trip from Mumbai to Goa cruise.
I have no intention to support Aryan here but clearly folks are twisting open facts. They didn’t check other 1300 folks and then nothing was found with Aryan and his medical test was clean.
If there was a drugs party or rave party, it won’t be with just 8 people and then it won’t start with ship still tied to anchor.
NCB official sources said Aryan Khan continuously cried during the interrogation. During the questioning, it was further revealed that Aryan Khan had been consuming drugs for almost four years.
The NCB sources have further said that even when Aryan Khan was in the UK, Dubai and other countries, he used to consume drugs.
That’s the point. Any news in media, you jump even if there’s no truth in it. Those media houses are rightly doing their jobs to trigger some folks.
Show me which country will run 1 hour prime hour debates for a top star’s son caught for drugs. He didn’t have it but someone with him for 6gms. You have debates daily at prime time and nothing else happening in the country. Clear divergent tactics and brainwashing dumb idiots.
Nearly nine months after he was arrested in connection with a drugs case, a special court on Monday granted bail to Sameer Khan, son-in-law of state cabinet minister Nawab Malik. The court also granted bail to co-accused Rahila Furniturewala and Karan Sejnani.
This is the person from the NCP who’s levelling allegations against the NCB. And people are taking his word as gospel.
No one cares what you like or have in your personal life. You can’t shove your hatred on every news item on everyone. You want it clearly that Aryan khan shouldn’t even get movies or launched. Itni nafrat..for what? Relax dude.
Man..this is not matrimonial site..why are we reading someone’s personal traits. You ain’t getting a girl here…stop it. Cringeworthy!! Call Reema aunty!
If you have a problem with Aryan getting launched (or nepotism like me), you should really curse this probe. More and more, it seems like a political witch hunt and is making Aryan more popular for fans and give more buzz than ever before LOL.
Lol. Go and get laid ( I know you think even that’s wrong, Lol). This is not shaadi.com or Tinder. I come here to read Bollywood discussion and not your bio and what excites you and makes you high.
I don’t understand why the Madeliene character wasn’t named Tracy? Or even the daughter? Would have made it a great subversion to have Bond die and Tracy survive. So, Leiter dead, Blofeld dead, Spectre gone, Bond blown up, they should shelve Bond permanently, or until Cruise finishes Mission Impossible, which is the perfect spy series.
Even better if they got some of the older Bonds for cameos in Skyfall, Spectre and NTTD.
“There was a rave party going on. And even if he wasn’t carrying any drugs, he wasn’t exactly there to sing some Bhajans, Anoop Jalota style. Right?”
Comment without any head or tail and pure hatred from first go. Reminds me of Kangana’s Queen comment. Sharma uncle ne kuch galat kaam nahi kiya, na sharable piya, no cigarette pee..isse acha toh pee hi lete. At least your heart would be clean. Lol.
This is last year’s interview when Rhea was arrested. Yes, again it is Sameer WANKHEDE here whose wife is B grade actress worked in Gangajal and other movies.
@anuragkashyap72 says, Sameer Wankhede of the Narcotics Control Bureau "loves invading Bollywood"
Whether he ‘loves’ or hates to invade Bollywood is irrelevant. Whether Bollywood folks consume drugs and act as role models otherwise IS the million dollar question.
And why go after his wife? Are you even worthy of acting in B grade films yourself?
I showed bollywood connection of wankhede. That’s a valid point. You are behaving you are on Sameer’s payroll or his wife. If I talk about his wife, why ru getting upset? Damn, don’t make me get ideas. Lol.
“Bollywood folks consume drugs”-Even Tollywood has had drug probes. If they’re role models, then I have a bigger issue with Aamir porking a girl his daughter’s age with crazy power dynamics.
How does Aamir come into the picture? If your sensibilities are offended with what Aamir does, then go ahead and rant about it.
I don’t care too much about someone’s personal relationships but when Bollywood folks take drugs and otherwise pretend to be role models, supporting some charitable cause and shit, then I do have a problem.
“otherwise pretend to be role models, supporting some charitable cause and shit”-Exactly, if Aamir can do all this, while partaking in a relationship that has completely wrong power dynamic, then it sets a precedent just as bad as drug use IMO.
More importantly, how is SRK’s son who barely comes out in public supposed to be a role model LOL?
Then go ahead and talk about it. No one’s stopping you — and has someone leaked Aamir’s pictures having sex with younger girls? I’d be the first one to talk about Aamir’s hypocrisy then.
SRK’s son IS a social media influencer — I don’t need to spell it out or explain that, I hope.
Sanjana: I know you think I attacked Aamir..I don’t think I attacked Aamir for his divorce. Go and read that thread when his divorce was announced. After 2,3 weeks of divorce I posted another comparing Reema and Kiran which was taken completely wrong. I have no issue in commenting on divorce but if didn’t, I didnt..
I have kept quiet because I want to have discussions with some logic. Why are you bringing aamir into it? His porking? What a language which is generally used against one community and you are using it against a person belonging to that communiity just because your srk is in trouble?
His carefully cultivated image, PR and everything crumbled like a pack of cards with this incident and that is burning you and you are turning your anger against aamir in your fury. I remember how srk fans barring Z attacked aamir like wild wolves when he broke up with Kiran.
I sincerely wanted all of us to forget silly differences and pray for Aryan because I have a motherly feeling for kids.
I and Z strived for this consensus. But you people are unable to take the heat while srk himself is keeping his calm and doing everything possible to come out of this nightmare.
Remember one thing. Yesterday it was aamir, today it is srk and the person who truly deserved all the brickbats is Salman with his wild history and he is looking like some saint.
I am sure that aamir must have phoned srk and they are good friends. Even amitabh and abhishek must have talked to srk.
Yes, why are you quiet when folks are openly saying they kid shouldn’t have carreer or any launch. That is just 1st day of news. If that’s fine… then why to stop now.
I agree, even I don’t attack celebrities for their personal matters but Aamir with Fatima certainly freaked me out at that point. I simply brought it up because if someone can be attacked for their drug habit, then they can also be attacked for their divorces.
Even during SSR, I thought the drugs case was stupid, and we needed to find out if there was mafia style takedown through blinds that happened with him.
People already ridiculed Aamir for his divorce — and if someone thinks that getting a divorce is as bad as consuming drugs, then that person’s moral centre is heavily compromised. If there’s one in the first place.
The same folks are planning to boycott LSC. And they will boycott his kids too. Just because they are saying so, it will not necessarily happen. These things are not in our hands anymore.
Do you know about the ceat ad and about aamir advocating safe Diwali? And the backlash?
Already his endorsements is a big zero and his film career is also ending.
Aman, you have already attacked aamir for his divorces and other weaknesses. Why to bring it here which has no relevance? Instead bring Ira’s depression and the reasons for it.
Anurag Kashyap is a self confessed snorter and drug addict himself. Fancy interviewing him on narcotics! However its obvious that certain Kashyap fanboys on this forum (fans of his degenerate poor man’s Scorsese films) would conveniently ignore this fact.
Some folks are unable to stop hatred and fake propaganda. I just came in this thread to counter that hatred. Didn’t participate in previous thread. Also had no connection that one of our member has hots for wakhede’s wife and commenting on him has upset him. Truly sorry for that.
Master, commenting on another’s wife is what you have done in the heat of an argument. What Saket said was all in the timesofindia and it was not fake news. Srk has fallen from his pedestal as of now. Take it. And he will rise once again in no time.
Now dont tell me that I have hots for a C grade critic.
These shocking things do happen and we aamir fans are used to it for the last 20 or 15 years.
Saket also blamed an A grade actress Deepika P and Hrithik’s wife and others besides Gauri and srk.
And Aman also said similar things about srk and family in the previous thread and heaped praises on Bachchan’s family.
Now also folks will say I made the other thread close. I debated when Aryan was arrested but I wasn’t evergreen there for so many days but folks will remember the rebuttal today. Go and read my first comment today. That is all I wanted to post.
I haven’t made personal attacks either but this is very mystifying, there are so many other things to discuss and we’re talking about this? We’re star struck too
Lol, is that the issue? So I talk about public figure and you respond by insulting personally and then you have guts to say I started first? Hilarious and we have some folks finding that reasonable. Lol.
That was a question, right? In response to your unnecessary provocation about Sameer Wankhede’s wife being a B-GRADE actress?
His wife has nothing to do with her husband’s job. She has nothing to do with the probe either — so why bring her in and mock her for being a B-grade actress?
And if you can call someone a B-grade actress, why can’t I question your worthiness in response?
I’ve made the same remarks against KRK who mocks films and stars/actors for a living. After making a film like Desh Drohi, no less.
“Accused Aryan Khan, in the WhatsApp chats, is discussing modes of payment to be done for procurement (of drugs). Several code names are being used. All the accused persons have to be confronted with each other. The international transactions need to be investigated,” Singh said.
In his argument, Satish Maneshinde, lawyer defending Aryan Khan in the case, told that court that NCB had found nothing on his client except his phone. “Nothing incriminating was recovered from Aryan Khan except his mobile phone.
I hope that clears up any doubts for people still supporting Aryan Khan.
I’m no expert in the law but if the laws are being fragrantly violated, I’d assume the Judiciary wouldn’t allow it to happen.
As far as I’m aware, the Judge allowed the NCB to take custody of Aryan Khan for further interrogation — based on incriminating evidence found on his phone and him being present at a crime scene.
The person next to him was found in possession of drugs. And that person is also his good friend. These are sufficient grounds for taking someone in for questioning.
That’s the point every lawyer is making. The judge didn’t give him jail time, they have more time for investigation but that’s also against the law. But as you know everything is not done legal in the country. It might be news to you as you are from Utopian country.
Also, why was the ship let it sail with 1300 folks without checking them? Was the drugs only on 8 and rest are all clean? Wasn’t it supposed to be rave party? No one from organizers arrested ? No one from ship arrested? No one from 1300 folks arrested?
Six more people, including four from the Delhi event management company Namas’cray Experience Pvt Ltd that had organised the two-day voyage on the cruise liner from which drugs were recovered were arrested by NCB on Tuesday as part of its ongoing probe into the seizure. The total number of arrests in the case has now gone up to 16.
Saket: If you do a raid for rave party – will you let the cruise sail off without checking 1300 members? If truly drugs is found on the cruise.. will that not be sealed off and trip cancelled? They just needed to catch particular folks and not worried about cruise or rave party. Answer and you’ll figure out the situation.
I will say this to end this debate — I don’t really care about the politics behind NCB’s raids. I’ve never been a sympathizer of the present Government.
But I am ok with ALL Bollywood celebrities, including my personal favourites, to be called in for questioning and OUTED as drug users.
I want people, especially young people, to know that their idols are deeply flawed human beings who don’t deserve the pedestals they’ve been placed upon.
When I read comments about young people defending the use of drugs, it pains me no end. And if any such arrest can change their minds, I’m all up for it.
Except you, no one seems to care if SRK’s son is a nashedi, ganjedi. Your drug warrior stance is anyway outdated, and then you pay no attention to the frequent breaches and holes in the NCB’s process and procedure. Very wide eyed to believe that our courts or even any court is absolutely impartial.
“Instead of SRK fans admitting that his son is a nashedi, ganjedi”
Lol. Again back to your self.
Cocaine addict, alcohol addict is different than trying out recreational drugs. If one tries drugs doesn’t make them nashedi, ganjedi. If one smokes or drinks doesn’t make them that as well. You need to know the difference first. Yes, getting caught with drugs is illegal but having drugs is not. Anyone can say I had drugs last night or last year or earlier.. but they can’t arrest based on that. Again huge difference. Ranbir has admitted to have drugs, Kangana has admitted and so has many celebs. No one’s arresting them for their statements.
NCB is propaganda machinery now. Only big arrest are small amounts and if celebs the better. No real peddlers are arrested. It has done nothing every year Drugs increases 30% in the country.
What about that 3000 kgs caught in Adani port? No, let’s focus on 6 gms first.. that 3000 kgs we can see later.
Yes, when no answer. Let’s close it but also mention that Aryan khan shouldn’t get a career now for this fake witch hunt or that he might have taken drugs sometime in his life.
Again you don’t understand it well. The phone was taken for more time and he said apart from that there is no proof and phone has proof or not we don’t know. He’s not admitting there is enough proof in the phone. You are creating your own story.
From your own article:
The lawyer denied the NCB’s claim that Aryan had consumed drugs even when he was abroad, saying he was not involved in any trafficking, supply or distribution of drugs.
“During the entire period of his (Aryan) stay abroad, he has not been involved in any trafficking, supply or distribution of drugs,” Maneshinde said.
The lawyer has been saying in all interviews.. nothing in mobile and you are hanging to this 1 article where it is misrepresenting a sentence. It doesn’t mean there is evidence. It is about the raid and nothing has been found on person.
So, B-grade actress is an issue? Even Sanjay Dutt’s wife Manyata was one. How is that an insult? It is just the movies they do. Even Daisy shah used to do B movies before Salman giving her break.
You are totally lost! You can’t respond that with personal attack. Trying to justify when you are caught. It’s futile!
Man.. B-grade actress is same. I’m not talking about her personality. Deepika is the A-lister and Daisy Shah is the B-lister. That’s how Industry talks and it is not about their individual personality.
If Sanjay Dutt can have such a great career even after serious charges, why not others with lesser charges or nothing proven, cannot have big careers?
We are all passing through difficult times due to covid, due to other things like financial distress and this is not new if we go back and study history. We had some good times and this lulled us into believing that bad things wont happen. And we are unable to take it.
Just imagine, if fans are so perturbed, what about the celeberity families? Of course they are cushioned with luxuries and living a protected life with so many options and choices and friends in powerful positions to help them out.
“If Sanjay Dutt can have such a great career even after serious charges, why not others with lesser charges or nothing proven” – Sanjay Dutt is a disgrace to the film industry and his popularity (along with Salman’s) is a facepalm moment for India’s society of blind fanatics and hero worshippers in general.
Not really. No one here defended Aamir when he divorced Kiran and our srk-fanatics went on a rampage. If Aamir’s marraige does not matter, who cares abt his son?
There is something more than that meets the eye. This is becoming like ssr case. There are many conspiracy theories floating around. And srk is coming back with 2 sure hiots and once again he is going to rule. And then his son will rule with proper training and with a grand launch never seen before. There is dismay amongst his rivals. I will not rule out some big names.
And other conspiracy theories are also making rounds. I am going through some tweets of regular tweeters.
Or it maybe a straightforward case. Since ssr’s incident, ncb people have regularly doing investigations and going after clues procided by informers and others and they have also arrested some big drug suppliers from mumbai. They went even to Chennai to arrest a big supplier and his wife who were living as common citizens in a middleclass locality.
The Narcotics Control Bureau’s custody of superstar Shah Rukh Khan’s son Aryan Khan ends today. Senior counsel Satish Maneshinde, who represents the 23-year-old, is expected to make another application for bail. Follow ETimes’ Live Blog for all the updates and latest developments in the drugs case
Aryan Khan’s statements. He has been given custody for 14 days now!
Officers interrogated me and took me under arrest. I have no connection to any of the organizers. I do not deny my friendship with Arbaaz but I am not connected with his activities. He himself says he came on his own. They have interrogated me on the basis of my chats. Be that as it may, Aachit is the only person they have to confront me with, but that can be done anytime. That can be done even after I am granted bail. They have not interrogated me for two nights. Why is custodial interrogation required now?
I have a friend, Prateek, who introduced me to someone who was in touch with the organizers. He said I will be invited as VVIP. Only with that intention to add colour to the cruise, I went. There were 1,300 people and they have arrested only 17. So the entire cruise is not connected to the passengers and as one of the persons from Bollywood… but I am not connected to anyone… There are chats between me and Prateek…Prateek is also a friend of Arbaaz. So he invited Arbaaz. Based on the aforesaid events, I reached the gate where Arbaaz was also there. Before we could go to the ship, NCB asked us questions. When we started from the ship, they asked questions if I took drugs and searched my bags and my person. They found nothing. They took my mobile instrument and then took me to the NCB office. I am not saying which pancha took me.
As far as my client’s statement is concerned, I was arrested and picked up at the gate. I had no complaint to the officers. As far as this case is concerned, on the first day, I readily agreed for one more day of remand, thinking there will be some development. Apart from some more arrests, nothing more has happened. As far as my interrogation that has taken place, it was connected to my stay abroad. Nothing else has been questioned. If the arrested are picked up on my statement, any senior officer connected with my investigation would ascertain that it is the same person or that I have any association, but nothing has happened. Yesterday, when they arrested Kumar, they should have confronted whether Merchant and Khan were related or not. They did not. The question of confronting should not be the only ground. One more development is, the cruise organisers have been detained. They have arrested a foreign national with whom I have no connection so far.
This statement is ‘I have no connection’, ‘I do not deny’ etc. The one that floors me is the last sentence.
‘I have no connection “so far”‘
I was in a bad crowd when 14 years old. I was coaxed into stealing from a store. I knew perfectly well what I was doing. Thankfully the store manager called my parents and that was a life changing moment in itself.
If he’s done something wrong it will be a tough lesson. What doesn’t break you, makes you stronger!
Agree but ‘so far’ is very bad way of saying but it is how lawyers write statements. Basically it means – there is another foreign national arrested and there is no connection with that person. I read lot of lawyer’s reports and I feel shocked to see such poor grammar and sentences giving rise to other meanings but it works in the judiciary.
Jay: Yes, what doesn’t break you makes you stronger. Here it is not about individual growth or coming out of it. It is all about perception. If the perception that Aryan Khan was caught into drugs is built, his life & career is ruined. Similarly, Sooraj Pancholi’s career is ruined the day he was involved in Jiah Khan’s suicide. Irrespective if he’s the reason or not, the perception is that he’s the issue and public will NEVER accept him as leading man.
Aryan Khan was invited as VIP guest and it was publicized in the cruise promotion and NCB and everyone else had clear plan and time to setup this operation. Or else, who is keeping track of Aryan in daily basis or any star’s kids.
It is even bailable offense if you get caught with drugs. Here without drugs, they are scared he will leave country and run away forever, so denying bail? Wow. So much for ‘legal’ laws following.
It used to be like this every time SRK film trailer, or movie released 🙂
In USA, Tom Cruise son/daughter getting caught with drugs would probably get 10 seconds of airtime on some channels but 8 farmers getting killed would be National news and would get ample time on all media outlet.
In India, we all know what’s the case. This alone should tell you the state of India, and this isn’t just limited to current times, it has always been like that. So this has nothing to do with BJP or Congress or any other parties.
For all the LAWYERS on this forum. How much jail time someone has gotten in india for having 6 or 8 grams of drugs? I assume it’s not lifetime.
Aryan will be out and someone like Karan Johar will launch him and have a career. Even if he doesn’t, i’m sure daddy has enough money to feed next couple generation sitting home.
And none of us will have extra slice of bread or lose slice of bread from our table weather aryaan lives or dies.
Not taking SRK/Aryaan side but haven’t we learned anything from the SSR media fiasco?
This too will pass in no time because I have full faith in judiciary as well corruption in India from top to bottom.
As far as Aamir is concerned, it’s none of our business what he does in his personal life. We can have opinion on it but we don’t know what’s going on in some ones life which triggers events which etches paths in life. Some take alcohol, some drugs, some part ways to deal with the issues. In aamirs case if he feels it’s better to part ways, then it’s his life. If it’s about sleeping with girl half his age, he doesn’t need to get divorced to do that. He can easily do that any anytime he wants with outdoor shooting and so on, with as many different girls he wants.
As I had said before, at some level he is keeping respect of marriage by getting a divorce (I know it sounds weird) and not just having side affairs.
We are human and it’s better if we act like human instead of trying to be Gods.
What I object to is the holier-than-thou image these celebrities project to the outside world. No one wishes to judge people, especially not me.
But if someone’s giving lectures on depression and is then caught consuming drugs then I’m going to have very little sympathy for them.
The other thing is, it’s not only Aryan Khan who has been caught — others have been called in for questioning too. Deepika, Sara Ali Khan etc.
Perhaps there was political pressure applied to halt investigations into their chats but for what it’s worth, they deserve to be exposed as well. Playing with the emotions of impressionable young people is a ghastly thing, in my opinion.
There’s an argument to be had that people who take drugs end up depressed and mentally unwell. Not the other way round.
But he hasn’t been projecting any image.
In his case, I’m more stumped that SRK fans are giving character certificates to a guy who’s definitely not a role model. He does have followers on social media though. And for the sane ones amongst them, it should be clear that he’s not the guy to follow.
The whole brouhaha is because he’s SRK’s son. So what? He did the wrong thing, he got caught. End of story, really!
He’s not the only one to take drugs in Bollywood. I’m saying everyone who’s taking drugs should be called out. KJo made a show out of Bollywood Wives, calling it fabulous lives or whatever.
It’s only when incidents like this get reported that people, at least the sane ones, can see the brutal reality behind the fake smiles. The real ugly underbelly of Bollywood.
tl;dr — it’s not about Aryan Khan. Bollywood is fake and sanctimonious to a nauseating degree and that needs to be called out, IMO.
I agree with your entire sentiment around fakeness but there are bigger fish to fry than this kid who hasn’t even started being an actor. If one was to clean up Bollywood I doubt you’d start here. I would certainly hope in this case his parents take some of the blame and responsibility especially if the rumours are true on there own habits.
Ultimately he’s a kid who’s exposure is to a certain lifestyle from Day 1. This is one heck of a lesson.
It’s exactly as I said earlier. If a parent of mine was a habitual stealer and I was seeing that all the time and I thought it good to try that…in the process getting caught – part of that blame is on the upbringing and exposure that kid is exposed too. Also it would be silly for parents to preach here. Again if rumours on Gauri are true is she in any position to ‘parent’ responsibily here? Hardly in a position to do much. All her parental leverage is gone.
Good parents set or try to set an example. I actually feel a bit sorry for Aryan. When news broke out I could see the fan war side humour of this but actually I see this as a proper messy situation for SRK and Gauri. Career will always be there for Aryan. The comparison to Pancholi is nothing. This is SRK’s son, he’ll get into a big film guaranteed and audience won’t care. They didn’t care with Dutt, Salman etc.
No SRK fan has been giving character certificates, it’s the political motivation behind this witch hunt that pissed me off. Master was asking for evidence of which there is very little by the NCB.
Most people know what happens in movie industries, colleges and even schools these days have people doing drugs. This is not surprising at all.
I think the average person doesn’t know Aryan. OK they may know he’s son of SRK- but his personality, I doubt. Only SM followers will know. I follow no one on SM except when a topic thoroughly interests me and some interest is there I will read on both positive or negative positions.
This year I probably typed Piers Morgan twitter most than any other person because of his comments against Osaka, Raducanu and Biles. In the end I was happy to see egg on his face.
I doubt any harm is done to Aryan as superstar prospect. If anything in Bollywood this kind of thing will probably heighten his stardom!
it’s the political motivation behind this witch hunt that pissed me off. Master was asking for evidence of which there is very little by the NCB.
What was the political motivation behind calling in Deepika, Sara, Shraddha, Arjun Rampal for questioning? Why are SRK fans so fussed about a political angle when it comes to his own son?
I’m actually annoyed that Navika didn’t reveal Aryan’s chats on Times Now. Would have been another ‘maal you have’ moment.
But jokes aside, even if it’s politically motivated, at least SRK’s fans should admit that his son might be a drug addict and a poor role model for his social media followers. Both things can be true at once.
Most people know what happens in movie industries, colleges and even schools these days have people doing drugs. This is not surprising at all.
Yeah, well, I’m definitely surprised. I’m not aware of college kids consuming drugs on a regular basis. It’s pretty sad if this is true.
As Jay pointed out, if you wanted to clean up bollywood, you would start at some other place else and not a soft target of a kid who hasn’t done any films or TV.
So there is political angle and witch hunt angle there. Once that is there, it’s hard to understand what illegal things the NCB themselves did to get to the point of arresting aryaan.
Aryaan taking drug will destroy his life or his loved ones. Not mine of my loved ones. Who cares.
GVMT playing politics can destroy innocent lives.
As far as worshipping stars or cricketers or whatever, it has always been and it will always be there.
I’m a diehard fan of Raj Kapoor the filmmaker. Yes, he probably had an affair, was alcoholic, etc, but that’s his life.
This will hurt SRK and Gauri more. Nothing more needs to be said. Of course if Aryan did many illegal things drugs wise, punish him.
But ultimately (‘if that rumour mill is true on SRK and Gauri’) they should definitely feel the most guilt here. I would as a parent 100%. People will say Aryan is a grown boy or man but he’s exposed to a certain lifestyle all his life. If he’s constantly hearing ‘mummy’ does this or that he won’t have any guidance or moral guidance here at all.
Might be harsh but it’s mostly on the parents and parenting example set here.
Even now if my 5 year old behaves untoward we look at ourselves to understand if we’re doing something wrong or is he just being a 5 year old idiot child.
At 23 years old he will know right from wrong but you juxtapose his life and the status of his father on him you can see all kinds of messy situations.
I don’t get why is this hard to fathom for folks here. NCB can’t arrest if there is no drugs on you. That’s why you see movies where during raid, the guy drops his stash in someone’s pocket or jacket and keeps nothing on himself. If you don’t have it, there is NO ARREST. If I go to a party with 10 people and 2 of them have drugs, they arrest that 2 and not 10. If you have medical test proven you took drugs right before I came, you can be arrested but even medical test is clean.
There itself the case fails. There is nothing more to it. If you want to find out more, you can confiscate the phone and let the person go. There is no point in doing custody for days and days together without any logical reason. He’s not going to run away!
Blaming parents is easy but Indian almost all the high class youngsters indulge in drugs at least some point in their life. It is just the status quo. It is not about parents influence, it’s the lifestyle. On another hand, every poor kid will do smoking, alcohol and drugs (check punjab) and they do it even if their parents never did it. It’s the state of the lifestyle they live. Addiction is something else but attempting either smoking, drinking or drugs is not that uncommon at different levels in society.
Jay: How will the court not say the reason for custody. Is it a secret hidden? They have to pronounce the reason for custody. That’s a given and they do.
I don’t know ins and outs of legal. I’m shooting from the hip here.
An extreme example. If I got intelligence on 9/10/01 about terrorist attack on twin towers I may bend certain rules for certain reasons.
We don’t know what kind of case we are dealing with. Is it someone unlucky, some small time crook or the next Escobar. No one knows. Do we need to know, I don’t. I don’t care at all here just typing.
Mother’s a drug addict; son’s a drug addict. So what’s the probability that the father is Maryada Purshottam Ram?
Anyway, you are a blind SRK supporter. Keep on believing whatever you think is correct. Just don’t expect others to take it on face value.
This has been my pet peeve all along — there’s no decency left in fan wars. It’s like I’m personally attacking fans by pointing out flaws in their idols. And this has specially been true with SRK fans.
I’ve managed to piss off SRK fans. I managed to piss off Naveen with my review for Bell Bottom.
Saket, Obama took drugs in his youth to such an extent, that he and his friends were calling themselves the choom gang. And this was in the 1970s, where drugs were seen as the devil. Is Obama a bad role model? Try telling that to millions around the world.
You are doing nothing more than being the local aunty who puts people down for their lifestyles.
This is ridiculous, and highly political, as was calling Rhea and others, purely to distract the public and keep things going till Amit Shah could take back charge for Bihar.
Aryan Khan will be out tomorrow, and SRK will be back to shooting without announcements. Meanwhile farmers were mowed down by a home minister’s son who has still not been arrested.
When Obama was taking drugs, he certainly wasn’t a role model. And he is NOT KNOWN as a person who took drugs! What are you on about?
And cut out this Aunty shit with me. I understand your moral values are different, and you are more accepting of the drug menace. I’m not and never will be. I hope you don’t pass on your moral values to others.
I don’t comment on people’s lifestyles. Hell, I don’t even care to read gossip sites.
Why are you defending SRK’s son here if you are really worried about farmers being mowed down? Please go to change.org or galvanize people to oust the present Government. Enough of this whataboutery!
“So what’s the probability that the father is Maryada Purshottam Ram?”
No, that is only you in this whole world who doesn’t smoke, doesn’t touch alcohol and doesn’t even think about drugs. You are the only true person worthy to live on this planet, we all should go to mars!
I don’t approve of smoking or drinking but that doesn’t mean I’m on a mission to brand people evil if they indulge in these things. They kill people, sure, but rather slowly.
Drugs, on the other hand, are really bad for the brain. And more often than not, they mess with a person’s life, forever. Whatever’s left of it, anyway.
Btw, dirnking alcohol or smoking is not as bad as thinking negative on someone so much and showing hatred. As soon the news about Aryan comes up.. this is your reaction!
“Ha Ha. Expect him to get out soon and prepare for his Bollywood debut.Classic Bollywood. Never change!”
Where’s the hatred? I think you have comprehension issues, like your wording was totally off with the B-grade actress comment. It came across as highly misogynistic they way you phrased it.
If anything, I was making a comment about BOLLYWOOD — and how it rewards people who are even sent to jail!
How’s that supposed to indicate hatred directed towards Aryan or SRK?
“The one stop solution for all of the country’s woes, right from farmer killings to SSR suicide to Sachin’s pandora to Bollywood junkies.. the Prime Minister MUST resign” – Congressi dalals and chamchas 😉
The people in high society probably has it more than we regular people do due to access they have in terms of finance and everything else. They can easily get things.
Arresting one Aryaan isn’t going to make any difference.
Who is arresting the big fish? How is it coming into the country?
I think a bunch of people, mostly peddlers, have been arrested so far.
This is the other side of the story — one that doesn’t get reported:
Wankhede said, “We are not targeting anyone at all. We have nothing against him. We have arrested more than 300 people in the last 10 months. Out of those, at the most, there would be about 4 to 5 known people. How can you say that we are targeting anyone? Most of those arrested in the last one year are hard-core, drug-related criminals.”
There are too many comments to go through. Please discuss the topic not the commentator.s ; and language civil. If there is objection to a comment, please tag me.
Tomorrow the judge will decide on his bail application. Usually they confiscate passport as a guarantee and expects availability at all times. Bail with conditions. Salman Khan used to take permission whenever he had to travel abroad for shoots and shows. This will continue until all charges are dropped.
The funny thing is, I only appreciated Rahul’s post, which I thought was very balanced and moved on to talking about Bell Bottom’s box office performance.
But then you have accusations about hatred and what not flying around, for no good reason and things escalate pretty fast. Won’t be the last time either, although, hopefully I won’t be involved again!
Shah Rukh Khan and his lookalike Prashant Walde/Pics: Satej Shinde
Following Aryan Khan’s arrest, Shah Rukh Khan’s scenes from South Mumbai schedule of Atlee’s film were shot with his body double Prashant Walde on Sunday
Updated on: 06 October,2021 10:32 PM IST | Mumbai
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WTH!.. Are you not the same person who said I was being insensitive when I posted this same picture of beating a dead horse? Now, you are posting it? WOW
At that time I was angry. But as days passed, I just laughed it off. I just am remembering those days. Nothing to do with the present. You have become too sensitive and thinking something else.
Good.. I didn’t even participate in the 1st thread. I know it will nosedive badly. I came mid way in 2nd thread and posted this exact comment as my 1st comment.
I have been away from this thread and usually don’t comment until I watch the movie but I can’t this one first day. With all the reception and reports, no way this one will do 300 crores. D3 was not this bad. Real final collections = 200 crs (max), YRF collections = 240 crores. I don’t see it even doing PRDP in reality but the huge start will help it sale towards 200 crs. Race 3 did 165, I think as a solo release.
Then some fanatics started calling it classic and that it’ll do 400 crores or 450 crores and then kept laughing at others. Then it was an open playfield. Lol.
I have seen many bloggers/FaceBookers who see all international quality stuff but they go weak as soon as their star movie is in discussion. I think that is very human trait. You have all the rules and policies for other people but for your own, you are going to give benefit of doubt publicly.
TOH was an ok film as per bollywood standards. But people expect a lot from Aamir these days. If this film had salman or akshay in place of Aamir it wudnt have been mauled like that and may have even worked at box office. Worse films have done a lot better in bollywood.
Even all that I still went and watched TOH in big screen after 1 week. By then it was all done and dusted. I didn’t wanted to miss Aamir and Amitabh on big screen and actually liked Aamir’s performance very much.
The main point is that everyone here are sure that everyone or majority in Bollywood is doing drugs and every rich youngsters doing drugs. Then how come you go and catch only 1 top star’s son out of the blue. Saket is very sure Gauri Khan does drugs regularly. Then, how her or no other prominent personality is ever caught in decades? That clearly screams the setup!
Yes. Even I thought it was DDLJ song.
Srk was so charming in that Baazigar song and I think that established him as the hero villain combo. Abbas Mastaan could never repeat that success afterwards.
Bollywood, I love you!
And Amitabh in Zindagi hasne gane ke liye. Such a lively dance and such a meaningful song!
I watched Akele Hum Akele Tum again recently. I miss the Aamir of those times.. that spontaneity, innocence, the natural actor in him. The film itself is not the greatest in his filmography, but it was a good film in its time.. with the right sentiments in place.
Aamir was really good in there. There is a scene when he comes back home drunk because he felt he could not live up to his son’s expectations. There was no need for the staggered steps of a drunkard, no need to act like someone drunk. He is in the background with the main frame being on his sleeping son, but one look at his face, and you knew that he was a bit drunk and hurting inside. It was a natural, heartfelt performance.
I do respect (but I admit frustrated with) his approach to work during the last decade. But, as an cinema lover, you want to see more of him., more of that spontaneity, natural actor, more of those heartfelt performances. His ability as an actor often gets overlooked because of his involvement at all levels in his film. But he is a tremendous actor. I miss that actor of the 90s.
Think about him as a key player in a football team being ‘managed’ because of his age. Or how certain tennis players managed the tour by picking and choosing the tournaments they wanted to play. Obviously sports are weekly and films yearly. But the idea is similar.
I would give an apt wrestling example for munna as he’s a huge fan!
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No Hogan. But Kohli is a prime example of a guy lessening his workload for the bigger battles in life. BTW this use to be about older, successful generation doing this but it is normal for younger athletes to do it.
Read Emma Raducanu’s interviews post US Open victory and even at 18 years old she realises she’ll need to manage her career by picking the right tournaments to play.
Look at Messi who got subbed off by Pochettino in PSG game 2 weeks back.
Ronaldo was dropped on Saturday by OGS.
To be a long term bet you have to manage your workload.
Akshay’s work ethic should be applauded but he’s an outlier. Vast majority- Khan’s, Ranbir, Hrithik, Ranveer are picky and choosy. I don’t see the issue unless you really want a buffet of trashy films every Friday.
The joy and feeling of agelessness of being an Akshay fan talking about next release amidst budhaoo and pakaaoo public here sharing old songs of their stars in young age
Or some film is celebrating their 25 years of release. 🤣
The above is in response to Jayshah and Marcussuggesting its better to not have films ready to release. I mean, kaun hain aap log?
Record book ke keepers or film lovers?
I am so looking forward to hear the next hit song from bollywood (bell bottoms songs were disappointin). Probably Soorya would have.
I have plenty of passions aside from movies. Movies are last. Sports, TV shows – checking latest movies from Bollywood as the collections suggest are not a priority for many!
Diwali’s still a while away. India’s barely vaccinated 30% of its adult population thus far. Its a volatile situation where the earlier the film’s released, the better. They should have taken Dusshera as of now.
If the film’s good enough, there’s no reason why audiences would stay away. As proved by the performances of the Punjabi & Telugu films domestically and Bond worldwide. There’s always the pent up demand factor. Hindi audiences have been starved of a good film for 20 months now.
You will need a really good film to release the pent-up demand. But Indian BO recovery is going to be gradual, not sudden with just one film. It will take 6-7 biggies or more to get to a Shang Chi moment at domestic BO.
I do hope you count the Punjabi, Telugu and Tamil box office as part of the Indian box office since they have already hit pre pandemic levels with just 2 films.
No, pan India box office resurgence cant be judged by some regional movies doing well in one state or another. That is like a regional party winning a state election catering to a particular demographic, but it does not guarantee the party is going to win Lok Sabha elections.
We will need at least 6-7 Bollywood biggies to gradually bring back the pan india audience before we get a solid 200 cr nett grosser film. And 200 cr is the minimum that the big budget films will need to make enuf profits to get a Hit verdict.
Regional political parties do not win as many Lok Sabha seats as national parties in assembly elections. Master’s all India collections are 165 Cr and Vakeel Saab is at 115. These are figures Sooyavanshi or 83 would take any day in the present scenario.
Just because a regional movie is running housefull in one state does not mean the next anticipated hindi film will be running to housefull theaters all over the country.
#Bellbottom strikes GOLD!The film that defied naysayers and the pandemic to reach the finishing line has now completed 50 days in theatres! @poojafilms and @akshaykumar ’s leap of faith has been vindicated with a golden streak that they hope will continue with other films to come pic.twitter.com/0QS502bYIO
‘If the Distributor’s cost is X
Then a movie is a HIT if nett collection = 2X
Superhit if nett > 2.5X or a huge grosser
Blockbuster if nett > 3X or a huge grosser’
So was Bell Bottom’s DC = 15Cr?
I’ll give the link of such comments. By his own words his box office knowledge is awful! By the way this is HIS standard. Not industry standard. Industry would compare the distributor shares with the cost. A guy like Nahta would not even call BB a semi hit let alone a hit. BOI/Taran more liberal types won’t either. It will be Naveen and Sunil.
Let’s bookmark this comment. Naveen will eventually in the future call Bell Bottom a blockbuster!
BB is flop to average. There are no 2 ways about it. And right now its history. Its basically did the way Tenet performed in US market when it released in an untimely manner. Tenet still did well in international circuit, but BB did not.
I am just hoping Sooryavanshi on this Diwali will not do the way WW84 did on last Christmas.
Yes this is a true benchmark. Stick to it.
What is Distributor’s cost for Bell Bottoms?
My hearsay is that it was done at profit share and there was no fixed cost. Usually distributors do not agree but with the issue at hand they did. Effective cost has come to 10cr.
In pre pandemic, BB would habe got sold at 80 cr + 25 cr OTT.
In pandemic, it is sold at 75 cr OTT and 10 cr dostributors cost. So using the same formula as above, BB has sailed through.
I have been asking everyone from Day 1 – What is the distribution price of Bell Bottoms? No respomse but all gyaan from both of you.
@ Marcus and Jayshah- Why are you applying your biased verdict on movies without keeping distribution cost in mind. My source is internal. I am still looking for a reliable publicly available source.
I thought the way Marcus was creating brouhaha as usual, he might have numbers with him. Seems he was all gas as always.
Give me the numbers mate. Elese go the golden way, silence. Noises are not acceptable by me.
Lol, so you pulled out a DP of 10 cr **Edited**? No source at all, but an absurd lie. How can it be so ridiculously low? Specially when the OTT deficit itself was 25 cr for the theatrical release. Logically the DP wud be more than that. So if we give benefit of doubt and say its 25 cr, then BB has only made DS of 15 cr, thats 10 cr loss straight away.
Landing cost (PC plus P&A) of the film was 60cr (excluding Akshay Kumar fees which is based on profits share). Akshay Kumar’s share will be around 100cr.
The Satellite/digital and other rights were sold for for 140cr.
The film got a rebate for being shot in UK (30%-40%)- roughly 20cr- of production budget of 50cr if it ran for 2 weeks (which it did). It is the main reason for theatrical release.
It does seem the rights and rebate covered all the costs.
For the theatrical:
There is a sharing scheme between producer and distributors for the theatrical release. 60% goes to distributors in first week, 55% in 2nd and 50% each as from week 3, which is unusual practice compared to usual DP and DS, but it was adopted keeping the current pandemic and restrictions in mind.
It will most probably end up at 33cr net.
Make of it what you want.
My take is that producer and especially, Akshay Kumar have made money. Distributors less so.
Marcus claimed it would be average at these figures a few weeks back and has now changed goal posts. Naveen is claiming it to be a hit.
My take: Not a flop, not a hit. Average at best (mainly because of the pandemic, the trending, the revenues and OTT release scheme and that most stakeholders have not lost money). Impossible to predict any performance in normal times. Some of the above comparison metrics used are downright ridiculous.
Not going to argue with that. It’s never a hit. Every website was ecstatic to report figures. By end of first week no one was reporting daily figures. It was so obvious the movie’s collections were below expectations. Everyone in media would be interested in a hit – they wouldn’t stop talking numbers. BOI lost interest as early as Day 6. They themselves had little positive to say.
Everything anecdotal alongside the OTT deal and your numbers which I’ve seen on a site elsewhere suggest distributors are not calling this a hit movie.
Only a fan would. It deserves its brownies for taking the risk but no business person enters a transaction with a loss of 10Cr already! That’s in reference to the OTT price that Marcus pointed out and was known before release.
The other point was the pre release expectations. The trade was definitely expecting a 5Cr range opening, they make such expectations based on some idea of what the movie needs to achieve. That’s why the opening was deemed sub par from the off. The movie needed a 25Cr first week and then to sail through 40Cr at least for a narrative of success.
It’s short. We are only wasting our time on this topic because 1 person will eventually call this a blockbuster.
Even Akshay’s pre release interviews had things like 30Cr is worth 100Cr and 50Cr is worth 150Cr. So we know what ranges he sought for here. He’s in the Gold territory at lower end of 100Cr pre pandemic.
Akshay Kumar knows more than his own fans – I’m sure of that! I know it’s hard for this gentleman to digest and he’ll desperately try to spin things with fantasy genre like storylines but the writing was on the wall very early on.
The one positive is what Saket pointed out. The long term trend was decent (day 1 vs total). But I would say I’d expect that in a market devoid of front loading and one that looks like it’s been transported back to 20 years ago.
Rahul seems to have sanest comment out of the other two. Numbers, thats needed. Looks like Distributor’s cost is unknown. As i said, most would consider the movie to be a success. Now whether you call that average in your books or a hit in my book its all the same.
JAYSHAH, dont support Marcus just because he is in your group and has a common interest. Else best avoidable.
I’m a common sense person. No one is calling it a hit. Find a single source doing so and then comment, a proper source and I’ll even accept your bogus BOI.
I again dialled one of my known contacts in distribution and he said 10 cr cost was notional. BB was release on commission basis due to uncertainty around the response. The lower end expectation was 25 cr and higher end of 50 cr.
The news media has become so alarmingly predictable that this is no surprise.
Aryan Khan taking drugs or not taking them shouldn’t be seen as a ‘sansanikhez khulasa’. Because it shouldn’t matter or affect general lives of middle class Indians bogged down by rising fuel prices.
As a film forum, ideally we must be discussing films and box office threads. But theek hai. Cool.
And as citizens, this facade of the media and diversion tactics should have been crystal clear to anyone using common sense before analysing and overanalysing and writing blogs about a decadent generation.
Fuel prices is the top news item here in UK. People have gone bonkers, queues of hours to fill up. The energy bills will go up hugely too. Energy companies are going bust.
It is ironic that all the SSR fans(mostly bots and immature kids) are rejoicing and trending #JusticeforSSR hoping whole Bollywood be jailed for not supporting SSR and now the official advocate of SSR himself is calling this investigation unfair. Lol.
Life is always unfair but it not as miserable as yours who just posts the shooting schedules of his fav star, not movies mind you, the schedule updates. Lol.
Also, even if I come once in a while for half a day is more than enough comments than you lingering around here everyday without anything worthwhile than Chadda’s shooting updates. Yes, life is really unfair!
LOL, why so much hatred for Chaddha? It takes a pathetic life to keep ranting not only abt some silly star all through these years, but also defend his spoilt son day in and day out on a controversy that no one cares about.
There is no hatred for Chaddha and I’m be the first in to watch it and I’m sure it’ll be one of best movies of Aamir’s career as the template of Forrest Gump is fantastic. Even if they match 75%, it’ll be huge.
Secondly, I’m interested in the movie but has no interest in the shooting schedules being reported by dimwit fanatics like you. Do you see anyone posting Pathan or Atlee’s shooting schedules? Nope! Movie will come when it will come, then we can discuss.
If you dont want to know abt shooting schedules, just ignore the info. Who is forcing u? Better stick to ur defense for srk and his son instead? Thats more in-tune towards ur personality.
Lol, I mentioned for the reason so you realize, if you don’t want to read about Srk or his son, why you keep commenting on my comments. Oh, maybe that’s in tune to your personality. I’m not bothered about your comments, just showing how miserable is the life just posting that!
Ha! Dont think u r that important that i read all ur comments unless u r replying to mine. Moronic defense of a star’s family members by a fanatic does not deserve such attention.
But when u clog this blog with your non-stop rants for more than a day, its pathetic behavior and needs to be called out and made fun of. Deal with it.
People forget things in few days and there is 350+ days left before Pathan scheduled release date.
Aryaan case is nothing like how the media went crazy during SSR. How long did it take for people to forget as soon as perticular media group stopped covering it???
In less than a month it was a forgotten story…
Agree, so either some people are too childish to not know any difference or they know but are negative minded people who are completely okay with it being witch hunt.
Like i had posted earlier, aryaan taking drugs ruin his life and his loved ones, not mine or anyone elses.
GOVT playing political games ruins innocent people lives which someday can be your or your loved ones life.
One can easily argue Cigarettes (second hand smoke) and drunk driving (running over innocent people) kills lots more people than some innocent person dying from someone taking drug.
This is where i disagree with saket, if he has such an issue with drug, he should have a lot bigger issue with second hand smoke and drunk driving because that kills innocent people.
who cares if some drug attic overdose and takes his life.
Also, what’s the stand on gutka, how many lives does that take?
Z, the main difference is the type of drug which is completely omitted in all discussions. Gaanja and Charas (part of cannabis) are different than hard drugs. The stuff which was caught now is 6 gms of charas with Abbas Merchant. Cocaine is different issue altogether!. It is expensive and not easily available for middle and lower class folks!
“Advocate Singh explained, “This entire law (NDPS – Narcotic Drugs and Psychotropic Substances Act) is possession based and quantity of possession becomes the sentence. If there is no possession, the question of a case does not arise unless you are a peddler or a supplier, which is the fourth category. Aryan was neither found with possession nor was he a supplier. He is at best a consumer. And calling him consumer is also debatable, because till now there is nothing found in his hair follicle. I don’t think they have even tested that. What is happening to him is unfair.”
“What happened to the list which was in confession statement?”
Confession statement? Where did you read it? There’s none. The list is all which has been caught from all of 8 folks. Aryan knows just 2 folks in that. One his friend Abbas – with 6 gms and another Achit who introduced to organizers to invite him as VIP on the cruise to sell tickets.
What happened to the list which was in confession statement?
Nobody keeps all drugs in pocket for possession to be deemed illegal. If it is in vicinity (say with in room of presence then someone can make case, it was for consumption and above limit). Even in this case, it would be difficult to pin point one person to drugs if there are more people. Only way you can prove that drugs are for people in room if you do blood test and correlate to drugs found in room.
Aryan was standing in the line to enter ship. They asked him and checked his bag and checked him and nothing found. He didn’t enter ship or even checked his room. They just took him as one of his friend was caught with 6 gms charas. There is no case if there’s no Aryan arrest.
For some it is fun and they are enjoying a kid without drugs dragged to jail just for political witch hunt! Some are sure that SRK as father is drug addict and he taught his kids to become additcts as well! So much sanity talk here!
Just for Munna. This is official statement and what NCB and everyone presented in the court. It is not heresay like other articles.
“I have a friend, Prateek, who introduced me to someone who was in touch with the organizers. He said I will be invited as VVIP. Only with that intention to add colour to the cruise, I went. There were 1,300 people and they have arrested only 17. So the entire cruise is not connected to the passengers and as one of the persons from Bollywood… but I am not connected to anyone… There are chats between me and Prateek…Prateek is also a friend of Arbaaz. So he invited Arbaaz. Based on the aforesaid events, I reached the gate where Arbaaz was also there. Before we could go to the ship, NCB asked us questions. When we started from the ship, they asked questions if I took drugs and searched my bags and my person. They found nothing. They took my mobile instrument and then took me to the NCB office.”
” I was arrested and picked up at the gate. I had no complaint to the officers. As far as this case is concerned, on the first day, I readily agreed for one more day of remand, thinking there will be some development. Apart from some more arrests, nothing more has happened. As far as my interrogation that has taken place, it was connected to my stay abroad. Nothing else has been questioned. If the arrested are picked up on my statement, any senior officer connected with my investigation would ascertain that it is the same person or that I have any association, but nothing has happened. “
Check the thread for complete argument…ASG presented some evidence but Manshinde said that is inadmissible because of some SC ruling..
Maneshinde (for #AryanKhan): I have a friend, Prateek, who introduced me to someone who was in touch with the organizers. He said I will be invited as VVIP. Only with that intention to add colour to the cruise, I went. There were 1,300 people and they have arrested only 17.
ASG (referring to statement): I cannot read in open court, but milords may see it
ASG asks the court to read statement by #AryanKhan
Maneshinde (for Aryan Khan): These statements are inadmissible, in light of SC judgments
This is more important news; remember Jayshah talking about this. Is the agreement of any value or should we just celebrate that countries around the world agree on something?
Let’s see how this actually works. The Pandora Papers tell you many politicians, public figures, celebrities, famous people, billionaires are incredibly greedy and happy to tie up money in tax havens. Even today BoJo scoffed off claims at Tories and mentioned Blair instead.
Bunch of crooks leaving trillions that could change the course of history.
There are not many people from US in the list; the reason some commentators are attributing is for the low tax rate and schemes for tax avoidance for rich that there is no incentive to do illegal way.
US tax avoidance is different. I gave an example on Amazon last week. The big techs are hiding taxable profits into investments.
I think I gave a real life example. Amazon paid 2% tax in UK compared to gross revenues. I pay 40% just as an individual. Here, something is clearly wrong. It is the main reason why this minimum global tax rate is arriving. Likes of Bezos, Tusk maybe paying fair share in US as individuals and maybe even their companies too but outside of their country the numbers don’t add up.
I use to work in a huge US company. Every year sub part f was a big deal. I never understood the concept. It was all dodgy stuff. How dodgy? Sometimes the pre tax profit was peanuts. Then this sub part F arrives and income shot up. Then tax was not high. I don’t know ins and outs of links. But this is what 2005-13 was like!
There are some industries that seem to do this way better. Retail for sure. Like the big supermarkets. They definitely seem to pay better share of taxes. The big techs not so much.
There should be no loopholes and a zero tolerance on this kind of stuff. It literally rages me. Especially the super billionaires. I respect people who are stingy way more. Because they are cutting costs. People who just avoid tax with some funky offshore accounts are just morally corrupt.
It’s such an easy problem to fix. Just ban offshore accounts. Or if you want to use one tax them for using one.
I have been asking everyone from Day 1 – What is the distribution price of Bell Bottoms? No respomse but all gyaan from others.
@ Marcus and Jayshah- Why are you applying your biased verdict on movies without keeping distribution cost in mind. My source is internal. I am still looking for a reliable publicly available source.
I thought the way Marcus was creating brouhaha as usual, he might have numbers with him. Seems he was all gas as always.
Give me the numbers mate. Elese go the golden way, silence. Noises are not acceptable by me.
If no numbers are available then to each your own. Why are you pointing fingers at me when you are depleted of numericals yourself?
THE NAVEEN STANDARD of box office classification for every theatrical release.
If the Distributor’s cost is X
Then a movie is a HIT if nett collection = 2X
Superhit if nett > 2.5X or a huge grosser
Blockbuster if nett > 3X or a huge grosser
This has Harvard level accpetance. Taran Adarsh follows this. Komal / Shivaay use the same metrics but has a classification less. Thats fine. BOI has found to have used it mostly for Khan movies but not for others like Amitabh or Akshay films. But they use it too.
Anyone not using like Marcus etc and claiming box office verdict on theatrical release is same as a television without the screen. Just a Dubba …
Netflix valuated Atrangi re on being Hindi (die to Akki) + Tamil (due to Dhanush). The offer price is more for the cost of the film. Hence the decision.
Watched Bhramam on prime as I almost forgot Andhadhun. Though I am familiar with the twists and turns and I enjoyed it as the actors are competent and I usually like malayalayee actors.
I just enjoyed the drama once again. They replaced rabbit with wild boar. Prithviraj was good and so were others. But telugu version was meh from the beginning for me.
No Movement On Sooryavanshi Yet
Saturday 09 October 2021 13.00 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
The release date of Sooryavasnhi was announced a few weeks back but there has been no movement so far as far as a trailer goes or even a small teaser and there is no sight of promotion. This is because the Maharashtra government has not given SOP’s and guidelines to cinemas yet. The trailer will only come when Maharashtra government gives the operating procedures to exhibitors as that is the actual green light of cinemas actually being allowed to open.
There is four weeks left till the release date and hopefully the mandate from the government comes in the next few days or at least in the next week as this will allow Sooryavanshi to have a three week campaign. If nothing comes by next week then the promotion of the film is likely to suffer. In a normal situation a limited promotion campaign would hardly matter for a film like Sooryavanshi but the difference here is that this will be actually be the restart of Hindi cinema and this will have to communicated to the audience across the country. Bell Bottom did lack in this communiaction as digital promotion may look huge but does not actually reach the ground level as the industry tends to think.
The release dates have been announced of so many films but at the moment a film is seen to be coming only when the trailer comes with a date. Here the trailer is being held up until they are 100% sure that Maharashtra theatres will open up as planned.
The exhibitors cannot plan much either till they get the guidelines. There were many teething problems with the first release be it Puaada in Punjab or Bell Bottom in rest of the circuits and many cinemas could not release on the first day with many issues including settlements with landlords. If you intend to open then these things should be done before but here many agreed settlements post the release of the films as they saw business was up and running again.
This should be avoided in Maharashtra as if your cinema is going to reopen then you want to be ready for Sooryavanshi on Diwali as there is no better time to start but the this delay of not knowing the film is 100% certain to come on Diwali means less time. The makers on their part gave a six week notice with an intention to release but intention does not mean an actual release today and we are down to four weeks and it will be three weeks next Friday. Basically the longer it takes for the trailer to come will mean less cinemas ready to release in Maharashtra. It will be like Bell Bottom and Puaada in Punjab with cinemas being added post the first day.
A lot of this could have been avoided if the guidelines had already come but now its going to be a race against time for many cinemas as real negotiations with landlords will only start when the trailer is there of Sooryavanshi.
The under secretary might put forward his recommendations to the joint secretary who in turn would contact the cabinet secretary for approval from CM Thackrey who in turn needs his share of bribes.
Prabhas, Kriti Sanon and Saif Ali Khan starrer ‘Adipurush’ has been in the headlines ever since it was announced. The much-anticipated film is based on the epic ‘Ramayan’ starring Saif as Lankesh and Prabhas as Adipurush.
Now, after months of shooting, Saif has wrapped up his portions as Lankesh. To mark the wrap-up of Saif’s portion, a small celebration was held on the sets of the film while director Om Raut joined the actor.
Nitesh Tiwary (Dangal, Chhichhore) is all set to direct a new version of the Ramayan.
To be produced by Madhu Mantena, the three-film trilogy will be made at a whopping cost of Rs 750 crores (Rs 7.5 billion)!
According to a source in the know, both Hrithik Roshan and Ranbir Kapoor, who will play Ravan and Lord Ram respectively, will be paid Rs 75 crores (Rs 750 million) each.
“The rest of the budget will go into making the kind of epic that the Ramayan has never been treated to before,” the source inform Subhash K Jha.
While Lord Ram and Ravan have been cast, Sita is yet to be found for Mantena’s ambitious project.
Stories of Kareena Kapoor Khan being approached to play Sita were untrue, insists the source. “Kareena for all her talent doesn’t suit the part at all,” says the source.
Kareena’s husband Saif Ali Khan has been cast as Ravan in another project based on the Ramayan, Adipurush, which is being directed by Om Raut.
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75 cr for Ranbir, Hrithik for Ram, Ravan
By SUBHASH K JHA
Akshay should book 2 full years only for his films!
By that time, he will finish another 20 movies and can book 2 more years!
One man industry!
If others want to shine, they should either produce akshay movies or act in them as side characters!
Akshay Kumar’s Sooryavanshi not releasing on Diwali despite theatres opening from Oct 15: report
Akshay Kumar and Katrina Kaif-starrer Sooryavanshi is not releasing on Diwali despite government giving a go-ahead for cinemas to open. One of the producers of the film, Reliance Entertainment has said they will first wait and watch audience’s response, before deciding on its release.
Actually it has now become a joke!
I posted some time back that rohit shetty may develop cold feet and dont want to become a lab example while others are watching smugly. Thalaivi can re release in Maharashtra and also Chehre during Diwali period. Both have nothing to lose.
Lol, this is exactly what i have been saying. BB has underperformed and is a theatrical flop. Its collections is hardly encouraging for any biggie to release anytime soon. So much for the wise cracks in this forum who insists BB has done well.
R Balki is currently gearing up for his next directorial which is a psychological thriller. The film boasts of an ensemble cast including Dulquer Salmaan, Sunny Deol, Pooja Bhatt, and Shreya Dhanwanthary. Today, on the occasion of Guru Dutt’s death anniversary, the makers unveiled the title and motion poster of the film.
Watched a old film Apradh starring Feroze Khan. Good old fashioned action, good music, songs and romance. A stylish film for those times. Even now it looks quite stylish and elegant.
Critically acclaimed film actress files a complaint against a Twitter user and a YouTube influencer for outraging her modesty
According a tweet by ANI, “A film actress filed a complaint alleging that a Twitter user & YouTube influencer has been circulating some messages on social media platforms with the intention of outraging her modesty and some hashtags have also been circulated regarding some movie scenes”
Those asking YASMIN kidawi and a tweet liked by Ravish Kumar, Barlha Ditt etc on why SRK or Bhatt is targeted don’t ask why Sanjay Dutt or Rhea was targeted because they were hindus? There is an attempt to paint it on religious lines. Yes, there would be some noise painting it religious but we now know to mute them.
Watch the video which is in complete contrast to the line of thoughts from Yasmin who ironically choose to use it for her line of thinking. While video talks about bollywood devoid of religious preferences, the twitteratti promotes it.
Any super star’s son, irrespective of religion, if caught using drugs would get same attention in India. Sanjay dutt got same attention, ofcourse he was a superstar himself then. Media here is anyway oriented towards cacophony since independence. Now with social its more.
Of course i am totally with the victim here and supporting SRK and family here. Most of bollyword are in support. I liked Hrithik’s heartfelt message on one hand while on the other hand also noted Kangana’s measured critic of calling it a mistake and not glorify drugs and drug addicts.
There is a twist by some media and social media public in doing extreme commentary because of religion. They seems to be a tiny set not worth mentioning.
Yes, both the cases are different. Not comparing the nature of the case but just contesting the religious angle as the reason for extra rigour on Aaryan or Sanjay or Rhea or Salman earlier. Glamour and crime sells a lot.
Sanjay Dutt’s mother was a Muslim, and his father’s constituency had Muslims affected by the 90s Bombay riots. It was the father’s attempts to get justice for these Muslims (mind you, the father as a congressman did a padayatra for Punjab) that got him threats from the Shiv Sena, which Sanju said made him buy the guns.
Sorry but there are no excuses for keeping a handful of AK 56s in your own backyard directly obtained from dreaded gangs under the garb of “self protection”.
Watched No Time to Die. First hour and half felt little long but overall pretty coherent screenplay and ending was great which elevated the movie. Nice ending for Craig and one of best send off ever written for an actor playing Bond and this is unique in every sense! Will age nicely as well!
This guy’s career saw a fillip after his dad got the insurance money. Since last few years, he has got more movies than any other star of his age. He is signing more films than Akshay Kumar. Suddenly from a flop star, post demise if her step mom in mysterious circumstances in Dubai, its raining movies for him, his step sister Jhanavi etc. Clearly the money recevied are going into production.
Amusing to see the Uddhav Thackrey led Shiv Sena calling for a bandh in a state which has already been in permanent lockdown for over 19 months. Bunch of fringe goons imposing closure on their own citizens and vandalizing their own public property, a perfect lesson for a few fools on this forum who brand Yogi’s government in under developed UP as jungle raj!
I am not against social media but use this as standard to control narrative is problematic; Most of the times the reactions on these platforms are knee-jerk and and not well formed. Of course people use it for propaganda (imposition of views) as well. It is like companies doing stuff on quarter to quarter basis (short term) than what is good for company in long run. People do all kind of mistakes to meet quarter estimates so that they get their bonuses.
MH cinemas opening is great news! Looking forward to 12 real biggies in the next 9 months (starting from Nov 2021 to July 2022) as per current release schedule:
Bad news for big budget front loaded entertainers if they do not have good WoM.
Also bad news if 2 big budget movie clashes.
Moreover, a message to audience that all is still not well. They would think, why to go if there is a risk?
100% makes it risk free in terms of perception.
AKSHAY WRAPS UP ‘RAKSHA BANDHAN’ SHOOT… #AkshayKumar and director #AanandLRai have wrapped up the shoot of #RakshaBandhan in #NewDelhi… Costars #BhumiPednekar… 11 Aug 2022 release. #IndependenceDay weekend
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I am watching Shiddhat on hotstar. Quite a lovestory. Radhika Madan is bright and Sunny Kaushal is the sunny side of Vicky Kaushal. About illegal immigrants and their struggles.
I sort of liked it. Cant say more because it will spoil your viewing if you decide to watch it. Lots of DDLJ references.
Shiddhat is a lovestory which will tug at your hearts.
Sunny Kaushal is much more expressive than his more famous brother Vicky Kaushal.
Veteran Tamil Actor Srikanth Dies At 82. Rajinikanth Pays Tribute
Veteran Tamil actor Srikanth died at the age of 82 in Chennai on Tuesday, news agency PTI reported. Superstar Rajinikanth, who had shared screen space with Srikanth in a few films, paid tribute to the late actor on Twitter on Tuesday night. “I am deeply saddened by the death of my dear friend Srikanth. May his soul rest in peace,” Rajinikanth’s tweet in Tamil read. Srikanth had shared screen space with Rajinikanth in the films Bhairavi and Sadhurangam. Srikanth made his acting debut with the 1965 film Vennira Aadai with J Jayalalithaa. In a career spanning over 4 decades, he starred in several critically-acclaimed films. He famously starred in the 1974 super hit Thanga Pathakkam.
Besides Rajinikanth, Srikanth had co-starred with top Tamil stars such as Sivaji Ganesan, R Muthuraman, Sivakumar and Kamal Haasan, among others. Other than films, Srikanth had also been a part of a several stage plays. He had also featured in the television series titled Mangai, opposite KR Vijaya.
Looking at No Time To Die at the Indian Box Office, it seems that things are very depressed in the North right now.
It’s around 20 Crores and will definitely cross Shang Chi’s total and go beyond 25 crores, but traditionally Bond films have done very well in India — especially North India.
I know that regional films have done well but those are completely different markets with audiences still besotted with stars to a great extent. They operate on a different paradigm altogether.
Looking at NTTD and Shang Chi, Bell Bottom’s total doesn’t look bad, although it definitely incurred losses for its distributors. With Maharashtra not open, BB has been the best performer during India’s second Covid –19 wave. Trended decently as well.
The day FF9 trended was an alarming bell for all concerned.
Hindi movie belt is still spooked big time.
Pre pandemic, Bond movie was a 150 cr+ nett even on a non holiday release. Its business when rest of Maha is at 100% occupancy is testimony of our times and new reality.
Bell bottoms on a non holiday thursday release at a time when theatres were closed, night shows not allowed and 50% occupancy is a remarkable story.
Parameters of Theatrical hit classification has changed now due to upfront loading of OTT offer. Not sure why it took many others to not accept the new reality. Maybe a confirmation bias that i am trying to make Bell Bottoms look better. Not my fault. A workshop on how to remove confirmation bias is free on linkedin for Jayshah and Marcus. 😁📌
Exactly. Even in pre-pandemic times NTTD wud be doing 75-80 cr at max in India. Same with Shang Chi.
Anyways, NTTd has doing softly in US and will probably end at 170M there, same range as Casino and Quantum. Even ww it will be in 600M range like Casino and Quantum. Given its 250M budget and the release delays, it will be a minor success at box office.
But if No Time to Die can leg out to anywhere near $700 million with only a nominal Chinese boost, that will be a sign that the entire global box office is, relatively speaking, safe for preordained blockbusters.
Yes 150 cr was definitely not based on past performance.
Should have been more around 90-100cr.
But dont use this to deflect.. 20% of the market at the time on BB has probably become 25% now. Still a long way to go. With Maha opening 50%, we might see 40% of the market now.
I so wish T20 WC had been played in some of the safer cities in India. To boost the perception in terms of crowd participation for entertainment, nothing better than the biggest sport of the country.
Hahaha. Skyfall did 60Cr I think in India and naveen has taken this to 150Cr! What nonsense stuff as usual. And he talks deflection but he is a better liar than BoJo!
Looks like you like dodging the issue on picking on the loose end and not on the main topic. 😀
90- 100 Cr is what i have the estimate for Bond movie at pre pandemic based on past data. But i do think that this would have made 150 cr based on the momentum and WoM. But nonetheless if only past data is to consider then 90 Cr min is what it would have made. It would be fair.
Still with 90 Cr nett estimate, my analysis that current box office is at 20% to start with and now at 25% of pre pandemic level is bang on.
I think most trade analysts overestimated the potential when Bell Bottoms opened the theatres in most of the states in India. From 50 cr to 75 cr, it was based on theatrical capacity not taking into account the pandemic perception.
The 50% cap and no night shows actually dented the ability to come to theatre. Family audience were definitely not ready for it.
A holiday release might still have done some trick. But a non holiday thursday release of a niche but well made film like Bell Bottoms was more of a test run of a reasonable big film. I myself thought the market would be 50%. However all these were estimates.
What one realised was even to do 50% of pre pandemic level,
1. Maharashtra was needed,
2. night shows are essential
3. Occupancy is needed to be 100% esp on first 3-4 days
and
4. overall perception needs improvemement in terms of declining cases etc.
And unlike regional films, hindi film audience is in no waiting mode.
We should not undermine the pandemic shock india during second wave ompared to other countries.
Many of the commentary from others comparing market performance of other countries is definitely not correct.
There is also an element of aversion to bollywood. It can be short term and temporary. But i do know few people (maybe 5% of theatrical audience) who are dead against bollwood movies, thinking it to be root cause of all evil like drugs, nepotism, linked to underworld, etc. and have boycotted it forever.
LOL, Naveen, stop making excuses for Sooryavanshi from now itself with your ridiculous numbers. The fact is it will need at least 100 cr nett for recovery, i.e., Average status at box office. For that it will need to get footfalls in theaters this Diwali. Else it will be a theatrical FLOP like BB.
No No dear, if you can claim BB was sold for 10 cr then no surprise if you claim Sooryavanshi was sold for 15 cr to distributors. This time we will ignore producer losses then?
What I said is that DP wont be any less than 50 cr for such a big film. Problem is you have no clue abt box office numbers and make ridiculous and laughing stock of comments and claims. Give it a rest. Its ok to say that you have no idea.
On a serious note, Rohit Shetty has always been hit and miss if he isn’t borrowing from other film plots. Except Chennai Express which itself was a riff on DDLJ, and Golmaal Again, his original films, especially like Zameen and Singham 2 never worked. Hopefully he’s remixing not only Tip Tip Barsa Paani here.
The bigger issue is also that Singham 3 and Simmba 2 rest on Sooryavanshi now. An underperformance and the Cop Universe reaches entropy.
No second trailer, no newspaper advertisement – Rohit Shetty adopts a novel strategy for Sooryavanshi; campaign to begin post October 15
Through the 18 day campaign, he will unveil 3 songs, and expects the buzz to touch the roof with them, as all 3 are expected to be chartbusters. He is banking big on ‘Aila Re Aila’, which features the 3 cops, Singham (Ajay Devgn), Simmba (Ranveer Singh) and Sooryavanshi (Akshay Kumar).”
Sanjana had recommended this movie that i watch few months back. Very good masala film. Not sure if karthik will be able to carry it as it needs the lead to look little mature.
Kathik looks goofy, probably my bias based on most movies he has done. I have like a set goofy image of him.
This would have been a great film for papa roshan to make with Hrithik.
Skyfall = 45Cr (from BOI and Koimoi)
Spectre = 37Cr (from Bollywood Hungama)
The Bond series is not a big deal in India. It’s half the money of FF at most.
Note FF9 released well before in many places before coming to India.
Ff7 released in India on 2/4/15, next day in US
Ff8 released on 12/04/17 in both US and India.
Hobbs and Shaw released 1/08/19 in US and 2/08/19 in India
Ff9 25/06/21 in US vs 2/09/21 in India.
Obviously of all FF releases in a time when watching from home is more convenient it was hit massively on piracy in India. So using FF9 as any basis is futile.
No Time To Die is performing par expectations.
It’s below Spectre but not way off – that is without maharashtra.
Now look at Gold.
BOI and BH total is 102Cr and 105Cr respectively. Minus their Mumbai territory totals you get 69Cr and 75Cr.
So you’ve eliminated Mumbai which is the main difference between back then and now.
Now you can adjust down by 50% (to account for 50% reduction in screens etc.) getting you to 35-38Cr for like for like release thereabouts.
Now knock off a few crores for fear in current periods but add a couple of crores for pent up demand. You more or less get to Bell Bottom’s total. Yes Bell Bottom is pretty much Gold’s equivalent today.
Comparing ff9 to previous ff’s is not right. The conditions of release dates is a massive curve ball.
And in any case were the 50% capacity restrictions going to housefull? No!
Bell Bottom has behaved like an pre multiplex era release where there was plenty of release time and period to accumulate collections. It’s still running today! This is what films use to do.
The difference between Gold and Bell Bottom is how they made they collections. Gold was front loaded. 70Cr opening weekend and 87Cr first week and lifetime of 105Cr. This is the pattern of a major star release on a holiday that simply didn’t interest audiences after week 2. Heck the film at 101Cr by end of week 2 and it finishes at 105Cr! That’s awful trending.
Bell Bottom’s trends have been aided by the restrictions and conditions. Akshay knew very well what he was saying when 30Cr today is worth 100Cr pre covid.
Stop trying to fool everyone here with this nonsense Hollywood model vs Bollywood model.
Z laid a perfect example. If there were 100 seats and now only 50 seats. And only 15 people turn up on opening. It is still a 15% opening or 30% whichever way you look at it. It’s poor.
The opening was poor. The trend ok. Doesn’t make it a hit.
Find me a single source calling Bell Bottom a hit film. That is your challenge today.
Bond is never that big in India. NTTD wud have done 70-75 cr nett in pre-pandemic times. The market is performing at one third without MH, as we saw with BB. That will improve with MH opening.
IF Sooryavanshi were to do 200 cr in pre-pandemic times, it will do around 85 cr in current market scenario. But that wont be a Hit total, but barely recovery due to high budget and costs associated.
Bond used to be the only game in town a few decades ago! The only Hollywood films that outgrossed Bond were the Jurassic Park movies or superhero movies.
The situation did change from 2015 onwards when even the Fast and Furious franchise and Mission Impossible did much better than Spectre.
Of course, Avengers: Endgame was a complete gamechanger and turned the whole tide in terms of Hollywood moves and their performance at the Indian BO but Bond still remains a marquee draw.
The fact that it’s going to cross Shang Chi and run Bell Bottom close, in India, is proof of the brand’s potency.
NTTD may be a good film (haven’t watched it yet), but its not exactly shaking up the BO. Its ww total will be around 650M. Now consider its 250M budget, interests incurred due to delays, extensive marketing, etc and that total is underwhelming. It will be a minor success overall, not a bonafide blockbuster.
People waited for Prime release therefore theatrical business suffered.
This 4 week or 8 week period may work in long term but not for a film to regalvanise the industry. You need a film to hit it out the park with favourable conditions. As the cards are firmly stacked against cinemas.
Not safe for everyone, overpriced, Bollywood is devoid of creativity, the big stars are aging…it’s a bloated industry and can’t recover with just pure luck. A proper release with surgically precisioned marketing and a great release date is needed.
The lack of noise from Sooryavanshi is not good IMO. Get the promotions out and excite people.
So called change in entertainment habits doesn’t seem to apply to any industry apart from Bollywood. For the rest the big screen is still the rightful king.
These are fads though which come and go. The Sopranos was a sensation on OTT but its prequel has just released in theatres and has bombed quite spectacularly!
I would like OTT to win over cinema (because of convenience) but realistically, they are going to co-exist. The big-budget VFX-driven blockbusters will first release in theatres and if people want to watch them, they will have to take a trip to the local theatre.
But the dynamic is bound to change — people will not accept bad actors and unless there is clear hype, they will not run to theatres to catch a movie.
And by hype, I mean either great word of mouth or megabucks spent on advertisement. I think reviews will matter more from now on.
“The Squid Game is being talked about more than a Bond film as far as the whole world is concerned.” – No proof of that other than twitter hashtags. Either ways, television has always been the primary source of mass entertainment since 4 decades. NTTD is a certified big screen Blockbuster!
@Saket, good points and that’s what i’m trying to say.
This concept or thought of that people are dying for big screen and it’s the only way is foolish.
Audience has moved on and OTT is not same as Doordarsahn of the 80s. The library is so huge on OTT and one gets to see movies from around the world which they wouldn’t get to see in theatre anyway. And add some fantastic TV shows like money heist, squid game, etc. There’s a huge library on OTT at ones finger tip.
Of course the big screen will be always be there but more and more it will be for event film like Avataar or big budget films or during holidays. Some small films may click but in general, you’ll start seeing that audience is not going to spend too much money on going to theatre.
India maybe different but in USA the Electronic companies made huge profit past 2 years where they sold lots of big screen TVs, home theatre system, etc. I mean most big quality items were on back orders.
I think you will start seeing some effects of this in future where people may decide to watch it at their house instead of dishing out loads of money to go to theatre.
Family of 5, maybe $40 between pizza, wings and soda. Grab the movie at Redbox for $1 or free if it’s on OTT you have subscription to. Movie and Dinner covered for under $50.
Last paragraph exactly. I’ve been shouting from rooftop that watching movies in theatre is far too expensive.
To watch NTTD for 4 people I shelled out £40 ($55). In fact that was after a discount…the actual prices would have been £55 ($75). Now throw in the ice cream someone kindly bought for us it’s another £20 ($30). A 5th person joined and paid for themselves.
I’m sorry but one movie experience has just cost a year’s subscription to Netflix.
I then learnt a different chain charges £5 per ticket vs the £10 I paid. Plus they have better seats!
Something will have to change. I’m not going to be wasting money when I’m not so precious about ‘cinematic experience’. Kids of tomorrow are screwed. They will be dealing with covid related debt, soaring prices…cinema is at the back of the queue as far as I’m concerned.
“Something will have to change. I’m not going to be wasting money when I’m not so precious about ‘cinematic experience’” – plenty of us actually precious about the ‘cinematic experience’ (as proved by NTTD, Shang Chi and Master) and thank goodness for that! OTT is just digital television which is eventually gonna replace satellite TV in the long run. Cinemas has nothing to do with OTT.
Look I expected a response from you. I am not knocking cinema. I am knocking it’s prices.
If you cut prices by 50% you never know….audience footfalls might go up from X to 1.5X – yes you will make less theatrical revenues on tickets but the extra 0.5X is more footfalls for food and drink. That 0.5X could be X. We don’t know. And overall you make more by halfing prices. This is basic playground economics.
Unfortunately if you cannot see this or the economics for a family of 4 you are either too rich to care or just not old enough yet!
Too many millionaires in India’s metros to pack houses for Sunday evening shows of NTTD I guess 😉 Anyways, ticket prices in India are very reasonable on weekdays but the exact opposite on weekends. Reduction would definitely help.
Just kidding but i think the audience will have mind set somewhat to what it was back in late 70s.
I remember during that time, movie was reserved for two Eid and Diwali. No other movies thru out the year unless it’s some special occasion.
Yes, economics has changed where people can afford to go watch or pay for their kids tickets more than what middle average family used to back in late 70s but still, choices will have to be made if it’s worth going or not. And the young generation is growing up on 5″ phone or 10″ tablet. Their eyes and mind are set/adjusted to it. They won’t crave to go to cinema like we did growing up. My daughters go to cinema few times a year but it’s more to hang out with friends and watch some silly horror movies versus going for a cinematic experience.
Some will show up for NTTD but not for wonder women. And you won’t have NTTD releasing every week. So let’s not talk and make judgement as if there’s a sort of event film like NTTD releasing every week.
Once again, i’m not against cinema but i’m wise enough to know that there’s this thing called OTT where there’s huge library of movies and shows available at finger tip which is convenient as well as cost effective.
Let me dumb this down little.
Having a dinner at nice 5 star restaurant is a great experience but how many of us do that daily/weekly?
Most likely none of us are, we save that for special occasion like birthdays, anniversaries, etc…
Cinema experience will become like that for many where they will go see some big event films like 3 times a year.
A few things I’d like to point out — the nett figures for Bond films are suspect. Boxofficemojo has the gross figures. 10.9 mill USD for Skyfall and 8.35 mill USD for Spectre.
Now multiply the gross figures with the average USD-to-INR price in 2012 and 2015 respectively: 53.4 and 64.13 respectively.
We get 58.2 crores gross for Skyfall and 53.55 crores respectively.
Now if we account for inflation and let’s assume the best case scenario for NTTD being as successful as Skyfall, the gross figure for NTTD becomes 100.7 crores.
Assuming the same nett to gross ratio as Skyfall, that amounts to around 78 crores in 2021.
Given that NTTD is going to end up close to 27 crores nett, the business is roughly 1/3rd of its potential maximum.
Applying the same extrapolation to Bell Bottom, its pre-covid total comes out to be around 100 crores.
So tl;dr — The nett we see right now is about 1/3rd of its pre-covid equivalent. And that’s the best case scenario!
Deep diving further into his pursuits to make ‘Sooryavanshi’ into a big success, Rohit was yesterday spotted at PVR Juhu (the leading chain of multiplexes is the distributor of ‘Sooryavanshi’) shooting a few promos with himself in the camera. What he was exactly saying in the videos that were shot with high professional gadgets is not known but it is not rocket science to understand that it must be related to the big release of ‘Sooryavanshi’, which is slated for Diwali.
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October 7, 2021 at 5:33 AM
https://www.livemint.com/industry/media/no-time-to-die-makes-rs12-crore-over-opening-weekend-in-india-11633353947495.html
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October 7, 2021 at 5:36 AM
https://indianexpress.com/article/entertainment/movie-review/bhramam-review-prithviraj-delivers-an-enjoyable-remake-of-andhadhun-7556625/
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October 7, 2021 at 5:36 AM
Damn you munna! My comment didn’t post as you closed previous thread 🤣
On Aryan it sounds like a witch hunt. But at same time if he’s done something illegal he should get punished.
Aside – I don’t understand fascination with drugs, there are plenty of other ways to get a ‘high’!
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October 7, 2021 at 5:43 AM
If anything this is a wake up call for parents. What parent wants their child to be in trouble for something they’ve gotten away with for ages (if I believe rumours). Imagine how the disciplinary conversation between parents and child goes here. It will reek of hypocrisy and reputation of loss and probably more embarrassment for parents than child.
In the end this is just about whether you’re caught or not. Some can then influence outcome and others can’t.
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October 7, 2021 at 6:50 AM
Some folks are talking clearly without knowing facts and with clear hate.
Few facts – there was no party going on. The ship was still boarded with over 1300 people. Aryan and his friends entered near main entrance and went inside and were arrested right away. They arrested 8 people and then let the ship still with other 1300 folks. NCB didn’t stop the ship neither checked other 1300 folks, that would have taken a day or two. The rest enjoyed their trip as usual.
Secondly, Aryan was invited by media event planner. They do to attract sales of tickets and he invited as guest for this short trip from Mumbai to Goa cruise.
I have no intention to support Aryan here but clearly folks are twisting open facts. They didn’t check other 1300 folks and then nothing was found with Aryan and his medical test was clean.
If there was a drugs party or rave party, it won’t be with just 8 people and then it won’t start with ship still tied to anchor.
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October 7, 2021 at 6:55 AM
https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/aryan-khan-cried-during-ncb-interrogation-had-drugs-for-4-years-1860411-2021-10-04
NCB official sources said Aryan Khan continuously cried during the interrogation. During the questioning, it was further revealed that Aryan Khan had been consuming drugs for almost four years.
The NCB sources have further said that even when Aryan Khan was in the UK, Dubai and other countries, he used to consume drugs.
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October 7, 2021 at 7:06 AM
Oh, some must be thinking Aryan is involved in SSR ‘murder’ ‘case with Rhea. Some folks don’t really need drugs to get high.
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October 7, 2021 at 7:10 AM
I have spoken against Deepika, against Suzanne Khan. Basically druggies in general.
But your SRK-poisoned brain won’t get the gist, so what’s the point?
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October 7, 2021 at 7:25 AM
That’s the point. Any news in media, you jump even if there’s no truth in it. Those media houses are rightly doing their jobs to trigger some folks.
Show me which country will run 1 hour prime hour debates for a top star’s son caught for drugs. He didn’t have it but someone with him for 6gms. You have debates daily at prime time and nothing else happening in the country. Clear divergent tactics and brainwashing dumb idiots.
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October 7, 2021 at 7:28 AM
How do you know there’s no truth in it? Maneshinde has himself admitted that my client (Aryan Khan) might have indulged in drugs in the past.
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October 7, 2021 at 7:01 AM
https://indianexpress.com/article/cities/mumbai/nawab-maliks-son-in-law-sameer-khan-drugs-case-bail-7537778/
Nearly nine months after he was arrested in connection with a drugs case, a special court on Monday granted bail to Sameer Khan, son-in-law of state cabinet minister Nawab Malik. The court also granted bail to co-accused Rahila Furniturewala and Karan Sejnani.
This is the person from the NCP who’s levelling allegations against the NCB. And people are taking his word as gospel.
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October 7, 2021 at 7:04 AM
Don’t post stupid sources and fake news. Post what is the case and what NCB said in the court. All rest is noise for dumb folks to spread agenda.
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October 7, 2021 at 7:07 AM
Prove what I’ve posted is fake news.
Do you want me to post what Maneshinde said about his client Aryan Khan?
Maneshinde HAS admitted that he might have indulged in drugs in the past.
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October 7, 2021 at 7:18 AM
Please post. SS is dumping ground for you to spread fake news. Woh bhi dekh lenge.
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October 7, 2021 at 7:22 AM
Umm, does that mean there were not a BJP worker and absconding private detective escorting an accused into the NCB and even taking selfies inside?
You’re too much of a drug warrior, Saket bhai.
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October 7, 2021 at 7:26 AM
Even if all this is true and even if there’s a gigantic conspiracy to frame SRK, the fact is there’s no smoke without fire.
And I’ve already mentioned how much I dislike drugs. I won’t repeat myself.
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October 7, 2021 at 7:24 AM
” he might have indulged in drugs in the past.”-So have I. Toh? A student in LA, California NOT taking drugs is rare.
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October 7, 2021 at 7:31 AM
I studied in the US. I never visited a bar or a strip club, let alone even THINK about drugs.
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October 7, 2021 at 7:34 AM
No one cares what you like or have in your personal life. You can’t shove your hatred on every news item on everyone. You want it clearly that Aryan khan shouldn’t even get movies or launched. Itni nafrat..for what? Relax dude.
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October 7, 2021 at 7:39 AM
No one cares what an SRK ka tattoo thinks about me. I certainly don’t!
So you take your own unsolicited advice and go chill, dude.
I don’t give a rat’s bottom about Aryan Khan — but I’m enjoying SRK tattoos like you squirming with pain.
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October 7, 2021 at 7:39 AM
Man..this is not matrimonial site..why are we reading someone’s personal traits. You ain’t getting a girl here…stop it. Cringeworthy!! Call Reema aunty!
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October 7, 2021 at 7:40 AM
Then don’t read, simple. Go and do what you like doing best — jerking off to SRK’s poster.
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October 7, 2021 at 7:40 AM
If you have a problem with Aryan getting launched (or nepotism like me), you should really curse this probe. More and more, it seems like a political witch hunt and is making Aryan more popular for fans and give more buzz than ever before LOL.
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October 7, 2021 at 7:41 AM
Good for you guys if you think he’s getting popular.
Naam nahin tou badnaam hi sahi…yeh bhi sahi hai!
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October 7, 2021 at 7:44 AM
Lol. Go and get laid ( I know you think even that’s wrong, Lol). This is not shaadi.com or Tinder. I come here to read Bollywood discussion and not your bio and what excites you and makes you high.
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October 7, 2021 at 7:45 AM
I don’t care what you come here for.
I might or might not think about getting laid.
But please, you openly jerking off for SRK is not a wholesome sight to behold.
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October 7, 2021 at 7:49 AM
I’m changing the poster to Sameer ‘s wife for tonight! Ouch… it must hurt to imagine!
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October 7, 2021 at 6:01 AM
300 plus comment and thread was borderline contentious..not suggesting that things will not be hot in this thread 😉
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October 7, 2021 at 6:07 AM
You are becoming stricter with age!
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October 7, 2021 at 11:21 AM
With age you can foresee things 🙂
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October 7, 2021 at 11:22 AM
You created space for arguments. You are some kind of mind reader 🤣
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October 7, 2021 at 5:42 AM
SPOILERS FOR NO TIME TO DIE
I don’t understand why the Madeliene character wasn’t named Tracy? Or even the daughter? Would have made it a great subversion to have Bond die and Tracy survive. So, Leiter dead, Blofeld dead, Spectre gone, Bond blown up, they should shelve Bond permanently, or until Cruise finishes Mission Impossible, which is the perfect spy series.
Even better if they got some of the older Bonds for cameos in Skyfall, Spectre and NTTD.
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October 7, 2021 at 6:06 AM
https://www.koimoi.com/bollywood-news/hrithik-roshans-new-100-crore-abode-to-alia-bhatt-moving-closer-to-beau-ranbir-kapoor-bollywood-stars-their-dream-homes/
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October 7, 2021 at 7:02 AM
“There was a rave party going on. And even if he wasn’t carrying any drugs, he wasn’t exactly there to sing some Bhajans, Anoop Jalota style. Right?”
Comment without any head or tail and pure hatred from first go. Reminds me of Kangana’s Queen comment. Sharma uncle ne kuch galat kaam nahi kiya, na sharable piya, no cigarette pee..isse acha toh pee hi lete. At least your heart would be clean. Lol.
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October 7, 2021 at 7:11 AM
This is last year’s interview when Rhea was arrested. Yes, again it is Sameer WANKHEDE here whose wife is B grade actress worked in Gangajal and other movies.
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October 7, 2021 at 7:14 AM
Whether he ‘loves’ or hates to invade Bollywood is irrelevant. Whether Bollywood folks consume drugs and act as role models otherwise IS the million dollar question.
And why go after his wife? Are you even worthy of acting in B grade films yourself?
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October 7, 2021 at 7:20 AM
That is to talk about Bollywood connection. Lol, so you want to attack personally now? I’ll at least say I’m not a C grade pseduo critic, Lol.
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October 7, 2021 at 7:23 AM
You are the one who brought in someone’s wife. Why? You love to shit on women for no reason?
Whether I’m a C grade critic or not, I’m certainly not a bhaade ka tattoo like you.
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October 7, 2021 at 7:30 AM
I showed bollywood connection of wankhede. That’s a valid point. You are behaving you are on Sameer’s payroll or his wife. If I talk about his wife, why ru getting upset? Damn, don’t make me get ideas. Lol.
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October 7, 2021 at 7:26 AM
“Bollywood folks consume drugs”-Even Tollywood has had drug probes. If they’re role models, then I have a bigger issue with Aamir porking a girl his daughter’s age with crazy power dynamics.
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October 7, 2021 at 7:30 AM
How does Aamir come into the picture? If your sensibilities are offended with what Aamir does, then go ahead and rant about it.
I don’t care too much about someone’s personal relationships but when Bollywood folks take drugs and otherwise pretend to be role models, supporting some charitable cause and shit, then I do have a problem.
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October 7, 2021 at 7:36 AM
“otherwise pretend to be role models, supporting some charitable cause and shit”-Exactly, if Aamir can do all this, while partaking in a relationship that has completely wrong power dynamic, then it sets a precedent just as bad as drug use IMO.
More importantly, how is SRK’s son who barely comes out in public supposed to be a role model LOL?
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October 7, 2021 at 8:02 AM
Then go ahead and talk about it. No one’s stopping you — and has someone leaked Aamir’s pictures having sex with younger girls? I’d be the first one to talk about Aamir’s hypocrisy then.
SRK’s son IS a social media influencer — I don’t need to spell it out or explain that, I hope.
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October 7, 2021 at 7:53 AM
Sanjana: I know you think I attacked Aamir..I don’t think I attacked Aamir for his divorce. Go and read that thread when his divorce was announced. After 2,3 weeks of divorce I posted another comparing Reema and Kiran which was taken completely wrong. I have no issue in commenting on divorce but if didn’t, I didnt..
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October 7, 2021 at 7:49 AM
I have kept quiet because I want to have discussions with some logic. Why are you bringing aamir into it? His porking? What a language which is generally used against one community and you are using it against a person belonging to that communiity just because your srk is in trouble?
His carefully cultivated image, PR and everything crumbled like a pack of cards with this incident and that is burning you and you are turning your anger against aamir in your fury. I remember how srk fans barring Z attacked aamir like wild wolves when he broke up with Kiran.
I sincerely wanted all of us to forget silly differences and pray for Aryan because I have a motherly feeling for kids.
I and Z strived for this consensus. But you people are unable to take the heat while srk himself is keeping his calm and doing everything possible to come out of this nightmare.
Remember one thing. Yesterday it was aamir, today it is srk and the person who truly deserved all the brickbats is Salman with his wild history and he is looking like some saint.
I am sure that aamir must have phoned srk and they are good friends. Even amitabh and abhishek must have talked to srk.
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October 7, 2021 at 7:55 AM
Yes, why are you quiet when folks are openly saying they kid shouldn’t have carreer or any launch. That is just 1st day of news. If that’s fine… then why to stop now.
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October 7, 2021 at 8:04 AM
I agree, even I don’t attack celebrities for their personal matters but Aamir with Fatima certainly freaked me out at that point. I simply brought it up because if someone can be attacked for their drug habit, then they can also be attacked for their divorces.
Even during SSR, I thought the drugs case was stupid, and we needed to find out if there was mafia style takedown through blinds that happened with him.
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October 7, 2021 at 8:08 AM
People already ridiculed Aamir for his divorce — and if someone thinks that getting a divorce is as bad as consuming drugs, then that person’s moral centre is heavily compromised. If there’s one in the first place.
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October 7, 2021 at 8:06 AM
The same folks are planning to boycott LSC. And they will boycott his kids too. Just because they are saying so, it will not necessarily happen. These things are not in our hands anymore.
Do you know about the ceat ad and about aamir advocating safe Diwali? And the backlash?
Already his endorsements is a big zero and his film career is also ending.
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October 7, 2021 at 8:08 AM
Aman, you have already attacked aamir for his divorces and other weaknesses. Why to bring it here which has no relevance? Instead bring Ira’s depression and the reasons for it.
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October 7, 2021 at 8:14 AM
Why would I blame someone for depression? Especially someone who’s not even in films.
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October 7, 2021 at 8:18 AM
Even Aryan is not in films.
It is kid to kid.
I want to write a lot about that depression and how sometimes parents’ separation can cause it.
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October 7, 2021 at 5:59 PM
Anurag Kashyap is a self confessed snorter and drug addict himself. Fancy interviewing him on narcotics! However its obvious that certain Kashyap fanboys on this forum (fans of his degenerate poor man’s Scorsese films) would conveniently ignore this fact.
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October 7, 2021 at 7:32 AM
Calm down children. This thread was created for a bit of peace and harmony for munna. He’s probably gone to sleep now and having nightmares.
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October 7, 2021 at 7:36 AM
Some folks are unable to stop hatred and fake propaganda. I just came in this thread to counter that hatred. Didn’t participate in previous thread. Also had no connection that one of our member has hots for wakhede’s wife and commenting on him has upset him. Truly sorry for that.
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October 7, 2021 at 8:01 AM
Master, commenting on another’s wife is what you have done in the heat of an argument. What Saket said was all in the timesofindia and it was not fake news. Srk has fallen from his pedestal as of now. Take it. And he will rise once again in no time.
Now dont tell me that I have hots for a C grade critic.
These shocking things do happen and we aamir fans are used to it for the last 20 or 15 years.
Saket also blamed an A grade actress Deepika P and Hrithik’s wife and others besides Gauri and srk.
And Aman also said similar things about srk and family in the previous thread and heaped praises on Bachchan’s family.
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October 7, 2021 at 8:06 AM
Thanks, Sanjana!
Thanks for at least understanding that I’m not writing all of this to spite a particular star’s fans.
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October 7, 2021 at 6:01 PM
“And he will rise once again in no time.” – I seriously doubt that. The silly fangirls of the 90s are grown up mature ladies now 😉
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October 7, 2021 at 8:05 AM
one of our member has hots for wakhede’s wife and commenting on him has upset him
Hey, I hope no one talks shit about the women in your family either. But that’s just me.
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October 7, 2021 at 8:15 AM
But she’s a public figure?
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October 7, 2021 at 8:25 AM
Does that mean it’s ok to say anything about women? That too in a patriarchal country like India?
Looks like everyone’s forgotten the horror stories from Me-too in India…
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October 7, 2021 at 8:21 AM
Saket.. you are crossing line again n again. I’m taking about an actor and not your wife. So shut up and stich it.
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October 7, 2021 at 8:22 AM
Which line did I cross? The one you regularly jump around while discussing women?
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October 7, 2021 at 8:39 AM
Haha, now taking the discussion to another level. Lol
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October 7, 2021 at 8:00 AM
Now also folks will say I made the other thread close. I debated when Aryan was arrested but I wasn’t evergreen there for so many days but folks will remember the rebuttal today. Go and read my first comment today. That is all I wanted to post.
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October 7, 2021 at 8:08 AM
Saket, Master and Aman please take a break. Please refrain from personal attacks.
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October 7, 2021 at 8:11 AM
I haven’t started any personal attacks and I haven’t made any personal comments against Aman.
Master is the one who started it — it’s clear if anyone goes through the list of comments.
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October 7, 2021 at 8:21 AM
I haven’t made personal attacks either but this is very mystifying, there are so many other things to discuss and we’re talking about this? We’re star struck too
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October 7, 2021 at 8:23 AM
I can say with a clear conscience that I’m not really star-struck.
Argument-obsessed, you bet I am. If someone challenges my motives, I’m not going to hold back for a second.
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October 7, 2021 at 8:31 AM
Prove it. You started saying if I’m worth to act in B grade movie
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October 7, 2021 at 8:36 AM
Okay am waiting.. for your lies again
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October 7, 2021 at 8:41 AM
Lol, is that the issue? So I talk about public figure and you respond by insulting personally and then you have guts to say I started first? Hilarious and we have some folks finding that reasonable. Lol.
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October 7, 2021 at 8:38 AM
That was a question, right? In response to your unnecessary provocation about Sameer Wankhede’s wife being a B-GRADE actress?
His wife has nothing to do with her husband’s job. She has nothing to do with the probe either — so why bring her in and mock her for being a B-grade actress?
And if you can call someone a B-grade actress, why can’t I question your worthiness in response?
I’ve made the same remarks against KRK who mocks films and stars/actors for a living. After making a film like Desh Drohi, no less.
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October 7, 2021 at 8:15 AM
Divorce vs Drugs vs Death driver
Aamir vs SRK vs Salman
I agree with Sanjana – turn your attention to Salman. He’s a proper criminal.
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October 7, 2021 at 8:18 AM
These are arguments submitted in court:
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/magazines/panache/srks-son-aryan-khan-drugs-case-update-what-satish-maneshinde-ncb-said-in-court-custody-extended-till-oct-7-all-you-need-to-know/articleshow/86779872.cms
“Accused Aryan Khan, in the WhatsApp chats, is discussing modes of payment to be done for procurement (of drugs). Several code names are being used. All the accused persons have to be confronted with each other. The international transactions need to be investigated,” Singh said.
In his argument, Satish Maneshinde, lawyer defending Aryan Khan in the case, told that court that NCB had found nothing on his client except his phone. “Nothing incriminating was recovered from Aryan Khan except his mobile phone.
I hope that clears up any doubts for people still supporting Aryan Khan.
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October 7, 2021 at 8:19 AM
Even Maneshinde admits that there’s incriminating evidence in Aryan Khan’s mobile phone.
Translating it for people who struggle with understanding basic English.
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October 7, 2021 at 8:55 AM
Doesn’t matter whether he made past purchases, the law is clearly about catching someone at the present moment.
For someone so concerned about drugs, not a word about all the norms and rules flouted in this joke of an investigation.
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October 7, 2021 at 9:00 AM
I’m no expert in the law but if the laws are being fragrantly violated, I’d assume the Judiciary wouldn’t allow it to happen.
As far as I’m aware, the Judge allowed the NCB to take custody of Aryan Khan for further interrogation — based on incriminating evidence found on his phone and him being present at a crime scene.
The person next to him was found in possession of drugs. And that person is also his good friend. These are sufficient grounds for taking someone in for questioning.
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October 7, 2021 at 9:02 AM
NCB can’t do an arrest if there is no actual drugs on that person. That is AGAINST the law. Simple.
They have never arrested someone when their friend is found with drugs. It has not happened till now.
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October 7, 2021 at 9:06 AM
Then why did the Judge allow further custody if it’s against the LAW?
Why wasn’t he released immediately and the NCB reprimanded for their act? WHY?
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October 7, 2021 at 9:09 AM
That’s the point every lawyer is making. The judge didn’t give him jail time, they have more time for investigation but that’s also against the law. But as you know everything is not done legal in the country. It might be news to you as you are from Utopian country.
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October 7, 2021 at 9:20 AM
,ieverything is not done legal in the country
Right. It’s only SRK’s son the legal system is after. Gotcha!
Instead of SRK fans admitting that his son is a nashedi, ganjedi they are out to find faults everywhere. Everywhere except their own star’s son.
If burying your head in the sand had a face…
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October 7, 2021 at 9:12 AM
Isn’t that and the whole BJP workers at the time of arrest why people are calling it a witch hunt LOL
This is a very poor side that you’ve chosen, tell me journo who isn’t pro BJP who isn’t calling this a witchhunt?
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October 7, 2021 at 9:23 AM
I was happy when Deepika, Sara Ali Khan and Shraddha Kapoor were called in for questioning.
Can’t accuse people of double standards when they have straight up been vocal about all such incidents.
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October 7, 2021 at 9:15 AM
Also, why was the ship let it sail with 1300 folks without checking them? Was the drugs only on 8 and rest are all clean? Wasn’t it supposed to be rave party? No one from organizers arrested ? No one from ship arrested? No one from 1300 folks arrested?
Forget arrest.. they were not even checked.
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October 7, 2021 at 9:24 AM
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/hindi/bollywood/news/aryan-khan-drugs-case-4-cruise-organisers-among-6-more-arrested/articleshow/86797629.cms
Six more people, including four from the Delhi event management company Namas’cray Experience Pvt Ltd that had organised the two-day voyage on the cruise liner from which drugs were recovered were arrested by NCB on Tuesday as part of its ongoing probe into the seizure. The total number of arrests in the case has now gone up to 16.
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October 7, 2021 at 9:21 AM
Saket: If you do a raid for rave party – will you let the cruise sail off without checking 1300 members? If truly drugs is found on the cruise.. will that not be sealed off and trip cancelled? They just needed to catch particular folks and not worried about cruise or rave party. Answer and you’ll figure out the situation.
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October 7, 2021 at 9:28 AM
I will say this to end this debate — I don’t really care about the politics behind NCB’s raids. I’ve never been a sympathizer of the present Government.
But I am ok with ALL Bollywood celebrities, including my personal favourites, to be called in for questioning and OUTED as drug users.
I want people, especially young people, to know that their idols are deeply flawed human beings who don’t deserve the pedestals they’ve been placed upon.
When I read comments about young people defending the use of drugs, it pains me no end. And if any such arrest can change their minds, I’m all up for it.
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October 7, 2021 at 9:27 AM
Except you, no one seems to care if SRK’s son is a nashedi, ganjedi. Your drug warrior stance is anyway outdated, and then you pay no attention to the frequent breaches and holes in the NCB’s process and procedure. Very wide eyed to believe that our courts or even any court is absolutely impartial.
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October 7, 2021 at 9:28 AM
“Instead of SRK fans admitting that his son is a nashedi, ganjedi”
Lol. Again back to your self.
Cocaine addict, alcohol addict is different than trying out recreational drugs. If one tries drugs doesn’t make them nashedi, ganjedi. If one smokes or drinks doesn’t make them that as well. You need to know the difference first. Yes, getting caught with drugs is illegal but having drugs is not. Anyone can say I had drugs last night or last year or earlier.. but they can’t arrest based on that. Again huge difference. Ranbir has admitted to have drugs, Kangana has admitted and so has many celebs. No one’s arresting them for their statements.
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October 7, 2021 at 9:32 AM
He has been trying drugs since the last 4 years.
His mother was detained at an international airport for possession of marijuana.
Try harder next time.
As for Ranbir and Kangana, I’ve made fun of the latter multiple times, even though I admit she’s a great actress.
Ranbir — couldn’t care about him less. Average actor, absolutely piss-poor role model.
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October 7, 2021 at 9:30 AM
NCB is propaganda machinery now. Only big arrest are small amounts and if celebs the better. No real peddlers are arrested. It has done nothing every year Drugs increases 30% in the country.
What about that 3000 kgs caught in Adani port? No, let’s focus on 6 gms first.. that 3000 kgs we can see later.
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October 7, 2021 at 9:34 AM
Yes, when no answer. Let’s close it but also mention that Aryan khan shouldn’t get a career now for this fake witch hunt or that he might have taken drugs sometime in his life.
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October 7, 2021 at 9:36 AM
To quote nashedi Deepika — Repeat after me: Aryan Khan has been taking drugs for the last 4 years.
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October 7, 2021 at 9:38 AM
“He has been trying drugs since the last 4 years.”
No PROOF. Again. Understand law and not hogwash articles.
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October 7, 2021 at 10:50 AM
PROOF is in Maneshinde’s STATEMENT. Don’t be a fool and argue for argument’s sake.
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October 7, 2021 at 10:56 AM
Again you don’t understand it well. The phone was taken for more time and he said apart from that there is no proof and phone has proof or not we don’t know. He’s not admitting there is enough proof in the phone. You are creating your own story.
From your own article:
The lawyer denied the NCB’s claim that Aryan had consumed drugs even when he was abroad, saying he was not involved in any trafficking, supply or distribution of drugs.
“During the entire period of his (Aryan) stay abroad, he has not been involved in any trafficking, supply or distribution of drugs,” Maneshinde said.
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October 7, 2021 at 11:04 AM
During the entire period of his (Aryan) stay abroad, he has not been involved in any trafficking, supply or distribution of drugs,”
Man, why do I have to break it down again? He PURPOSEFULLY omitted the word CONSUMPTION. Any reason you can think of why?
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October 7, 2021 at 11:08 AM
The reason that the phone was seized to track the international drug trafficking issue which they hope to solve using Aryan’s chat.
Consumption is not the issue here when it is outside India
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October 7, 2021 at 11:13 AM
Why are they looking at Aryan’s chats? He was chatting with drug peddlers, that’s why!
Was he doing that to buy drugs for himself or was he just trolling drug peddlers, you know, for shits and giggles?
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October 7, 2021 at 11:00 AM
The lawyer has been saying in all interviews.. nothing in mobile and you are hanging to this 1 article where it is misrepresenting a sentence. It doesn’t mean there is evidence. It is about the raid and nothing has been found on person.
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October 7, 2021 at 11:05 AM
Who said there’s nothing in the mobile? His whole arrest has been made on the basis of his mobile phone.
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October 7, 2021 at 8:30 AM
https://www.dnaindia.com/bollywood/report-aryan-khan-case-ncb-officer-sameer-wankedhe-wife-kranti-redkar-wankhede-was-ajay-devgn-s-gangajal-co-star-2914461
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October 7, 2021 at 8:42 AM
Blamde DNA for writing this article. She’s also social media influencer and not someone who is not in media.
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October 7, 2021 at 8:50 AM
I read the whole article — where does it say she’s a B-grade actress?
And your point about her being a social media influencer being what, exactly?
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October 7, 2021 at 9:00 AM
So, B-grade actress is an issue? Even Sanjay Dutt’s wife Manyata was one. How is that an insult? It is just the movies they do. Even Daisy shah used to do B movies before Salman giving her break.
You are totally lost! You can’t respond that with personal attack. Trying to justify when you are caught. It’s futile!
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October 7, 2021 at 9:03 AM
I’m sensitive to such phrasing of words — you could have worded it better.
You could have said his wife has mostly worked in B-grade films. Calling someone B-grade is offensive. I hope you understand that much.
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October 7, 2021 at 10:41 AM
Man.. B-grade actress is same. I’m not talking about her personality. Deepika is the A-lister and Daisy Shah is the B-lister. That’s how Industry talks and it is not about their individual personality.
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October 7, 2021 at 8:52 AM
If Sanjay Dutt can have such a great career even after serious charges, why not others with lesser charges or nothing proven, cannot have big careers?
We are all passing through difficult times due to covid, due to other things like financial distress and this is not new if we go back and study history. We had some good times and this lulled us into believing that bad things wont happen. And we are unable to take it.
Just imagine, if fans are so perturbed, what about the celeberity families? Of course they are cushioned with luxuries and living a protected life with so many options and choices and friends in powerful positions to help them out.
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October 7, 2021 at 6:04 PM
“If Sanjay Dutt can have such a great career even after serious charges, why not others with lesser charges or nothing proven” – Sanjay Dutt is a disgrace to the film industry and his popularity (along with Salman’s) is a facepalm moment for India’s society of blind fanatics and hero worshippers in general.
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October 7, 2021 at 9:04 AM
SRK is God. Aryan is innocent.
Peace out!
Else srk fanatics will keep gnawing at the dead bone.
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October 7, 2021 at 9:26 AM
90 comments and still counting …
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October 7, 2021 at 10:25 PM
I bet you if this was aamir and his son involved you would be defending them lol you just a true hater
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October 8, 2021 at 12:50 AM
Not really. No one here defended Aamir when he divorced Kiran and our srk-fanatics went on a rampage. If Aamir’s marraige does not matter, who cares abt his son?
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October 7, 2021 at 9:37 AM
There is something more than that meets the eye. This is becoming like ssr case. There are many conspiracy theories floating around. And srk is coming back with 2 sure hiots and once again he is going to rule. And then his son will rule with proper training and with a grand launch never seen before. There is dismay amongst his rivals. I will not rule out some big names.
And other conspiracy theories are also making rounds. I am going through some tweets of regular tweeters.
Or it maybe a straightforward case. Since ssr’s incident, ncb people have regularly doing investigations and going after clues procided by informers and others and they have also arrested some big drug suppliers from mumbai. They went even to Chennai to arrest a big supplier and his wife who were living as common citizens in a middleclass locality.
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October 7, 2021 at 9:39 AM
2 sure hits
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October 7, 2021 at 9:45 AM
The Narcotics Control Bureau’s custody of superstar Shah Rukh Khan’s son Aryan Khan ends today. Senior counsel Satish Maneshinde, who represents the 23-year-old, is expected to make another application for bail. Follow ETimes’ Live Blog for all the updates and latest developments in the drugs case
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/hindi/bollywood/news/shah-rukh-khans-son-aryan-khan-arrest-live-updates-aryan-khan-bail-gauri-khan-ncp-bjp-drug-case-fake-cruise-ship-drug/liveblog/86828555.cms
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October 7, 2021 at 9:52 AM
Aryan Khan’s statements. He has been given custody for 14 days now!
Officers interrogated me and took me under arrest. I have no connection to any of the organizers. I do not deny my friendship with Arbaaz but I am not connected with his activities. He himself says he came on his own. They have interrogated me on the basis of my chats. Be that as it may, Aachit is the only person they have to confront me with, but that can be done anytime. That can be done even after I am granted bail. They have not interrogated me for two nights. Why is custodial interrogation required now?
I have a friend, Prateek, who introduced me to someone who was in touch with the organizers. He said I will be invited as VVIP. Only with that intention to add colour to the cruise, I went. There were 1,300 people and they have arrested only 17. So the entire cruise is not connected to the passengers and as one of the persons from Bollywood… but I am not connected to anyone… There are chats between me and Prateek…Prateek is also a friend of Arbaaz. So he invited Arbaaz. Based on the aforesaid events, I reached the gate where Arbaaz was also there. Before we could go to the ship, NCB asked us questions. When we started from the ship, they asked questions if I took drugs and searched my bags and my person. They found nothing. They took my mobile instrument and then took me to the NCB office. I am not saying which pancha took me.
As far as my client’s statement is concerned, I was arrested and picked up at the gate. I had no complaint to the officers. As far as this case is concerned, on the first day, I readily agreed for one more day of remand, thinking there will be some development. Apart from some more arrests, nothing more has happened. As far as my interrogation that has taken place, it was connected to my stay abroad. Nothing else has been questioned. If the arrested are picked up on my statement, any senior officer connected with my investigation would ascertain that it is the same person or that I have any association, but nothing has happened. Yesterday, when they arrested Kumar, they should have confronted whether Merchant and Khan were related or not. They did not. The question of confronting should not be the only ground. One more development is, the cruise organisers have been detained. They have arrested a foreign national with whom I have no connection so far.
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October 7, 2021 at 10:26 AM
This statement is ‘I have no connection’, ‘I do not deny’ etc. The one that floors me is the last sentence.
‘I have no connection “so far”‘
I was in a bad crowd when 14 years old. I was coaxed into stealing from a store. I knew perfectly well what I was doing. Thankfully the store manager called my parents and that was a life changing moment in itself.
If he’s done something wrong it will be a tough lesson. What doesn’t break you, makes you stronger!
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October 7, 2021 at 10:40 AM
Agree but ‘so far’ is very bad way of saying but it is how lawyers write statements. Basically it means – there is another foreign national arrested and there is no connection with that person. I read lot of lawyer’s reports and I feel shocked to see such poor grammar and sentences giving rise to other meanings but it works in the judiciary.
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October 7, 2021 at 10:46 AM
Jay: Yes, what doesn’t break you makes you stronger. Here it is not about individual growth or coming out of it. It is all about perception. If the perception that Aryan Khan was caught into drugs is built, his life & career is ruined. Similarly, Sooraj Pancholi’s career is ruined the day he was involved in Jiah Khan’s suicide. Irrespective if he’s the reason or not, the perception is that he’s the issue and public will NEVER accept him as leading man.
Aryan Khan was invited as VIP guest and it was publicized in the cruise promotion and NCB and everyone else had clear plan and time to setup this operation. Or else, who is keeping track of Aryan in daily basis or any star’s kids.
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October 7, 2021 at 9:55 AM
Let’s party. He got 14 days more jail time as they don’t know what to do with him!
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October 7, 2021 at 9:56 AM
It is even bailable offense if you get caught with drugs. Here without drugs, they are scared he will leave country and run away forever, so denying bail? Wow. So much for ‘legal’ laws following.
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October 7, 2021 at 9:56 AM
Ouch!
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October 7, 2021 at 10:47 AM
WOW, SS is alive, finally…
It used to be like this every time SRK film trailer, or movie released 🙂
In USA, Tom Cruise son/daughter getting caught with drugs would probably get 10 seconds of airtime on some channels but 8 farmers getting killed would be National news and would get ample time on all media outlet.
In India, we all know what’s the case. This alone should tell you the state of India, and this isn’t just limited to current times, it has always been like that. So this has nothing to do with BJP or Congress or any other parties.
For all the LAWYERS on this forum. How much jail time someone has gotten in india for having 6 or 8 grams of drugs? I assume it’s not lifetime.
Aryan will be out and someone like Karan Johar will launch him and have a career. Even if he doesn’t, i’m sure daddy has enough money to feed next couple generation sitting home.
And none of us will have extra slice of bread or lose slice of bread from our table weather aryaan lives or dies.
Not taking SRK/Aryaan side but haven’t we learned anything from the SSR media fiasco?
This too will pass in no time because I have full faith in judiciary as well corruption in India from top to bottom.
As far as Aamir is concerned, it’s none of our business what he does in his personal life. We can have opinion on it but we don’t know what’s going on in some ones life which triggers events which etches paths in life. Some take alcohol, some drugs, some part ways to deal with the issues. In aamirs case if he feels it’s better to part ways, then it’s his life. If it’s about sleeping with girl half his age, he doesn’t need to get divorced to do that. He can easily do that any anytime he wants with outdoor shooting and so on, with as many different girls he wants.
As I had said before, at some level he is keeping respect of marriage by getting a divorce (I know it sounds weird) and not just having side affairs.
We are human and it’s better if we act like human instead of trying to be Gods.
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October 7, 2021 at 10:56 AM
Agreed for the most part, Z
What I object to is the holier-than-thou image these celebrities project to the outside world. No one wishes to judge people, especially not me.
But if someone’s giving lectures on depression and is then caught consuming drugs then I’m going to have very little sympathy for them.
The other thing is, it’s not only Aryan Khan who has been caught — others have been called in for questioning too. Deepika, Sara Ali Khan etc.
Perhaps there was political pressure applied to halt investigations into their chats but for what it’s worth, they deserve to be exposed as well. Playing with the emotions of impressionable young people is a ghastly thing, in my opinion.
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October 7, 2021 at 11:18 AM
But he hasn’t been projecting any image. Lots of depressed and mentally unwell people take drugs.
You seem to think we’re in the 80s, people who invest so much in movie stars are dumb anyway.
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October 7, 2021 at 11:36 AM
There’s an argument to be had that people who take drugs end up depressed and mentally unwell. Not the other way round.
But he hasn’t been projecting any image.
In his case, I’m more stumped that SRK fans are giving character certificates to a guy who’s definitely not a role model. He does have followers on social media though. And for the sane ones amongst them, it should be clear that he’s not the guy to follow.
The whole brouhaha is because he’s SRK’s son. So what? He did the wrong thing, he got caught. End of story, really!
He’s not the only one to take drugs in Bollywood. I’m saying everyone who’s taking drugs should be called out. KJo made a show out of Bollywood Wives, calling it fabulous lives or whatever.
It’s only when incidents like this get reported that people, at least the sane ones, can see the brutal reality behind the fake smiles. The real ugly underbelly of Bollywood.
tl;dr — it’s not about Aryan Khan. Bollywood is fake and sanctimonious to a nauseating degree and that needs to be called out, IMO.
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October 7, 2021 at 11:51 AM
I agree with your entire sentiment around fakeness but there are bigger fish to fry than this kid who hasn’t even started being an actor. If one was to clean up Bollywood I doubt you’d start here. I would certainly hope in this case his parents take some of the blame and responsibility especially if the rumours are true on there own habits.
Ultimately he’s a kid who’s exposure is to a certain lifestyle from Day 1. This is one heck of a lesson.
It’s exactly as I said earlier. If a parent of mine was a habitual stealer and I was seeing that all the time and I thought it good to try that…in the process getting caught – part of that blame is on the upbringing and exposure that kid is exposed too. Also it would be silly for parents to preach here. Again if rumours on Gauri are true is she in any position to ‘parent’ responsibily here? Hardly in a position to do much. All her parental leverage is gone.
Good parents set or try to set an example. I actually feel a bit sorry for Aryan. When news broke out I could see the fan war side humour of this but actually I see this as a proper messy situation for SRK and Gauri. Career will always be there for Aryan. The comparison to Pancholi is nothing. This is SRK’s son, he’ll get into a big film guaranteed and audience won’t care. They didn’t care with Dutt, Salman etc.
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October 7, 2021 at 11:53 AM
No SRK fan has been giving character certificates, it’s the political motivation behind this witch hunt that pissed me off. Master was asking for evidence of which there is very little by the NCB.
Most people know what happens in movie industries, colleges and even schools these days have people doing drugs. This is not surprising at all.
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October 7, 2021 at 12:05 PM
I think the average person doesn’t know Aryan. OK they may know he’s son of SRK- but his personality, I doubt. Only SM followers will know. I follow no one on SM except when a topic thoroughly interests me and some interest is there I will read on both positive or negative positions.
This year I probably typed Piers Morgan twitter most than any other person because of his comments against Osaka, Raducanu and Biles. In the end I was happy to see egg on his face.
I doubt any harm is done to Aryan as superstar prospect. If anything in Bollywood this kind of thing will probably heighten his stardom!
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October 7, 2021 at 12:46 PM
it’s the political motivation behind this witch hunt that pissed me off. Master was asking for evidence of which there is very little by the NCB.
What was the political motivation behind calling in Deepika, Sara, Shraddha, Arjun Rampal for questioning? Why are SRK fans so fussed about a political angle when it comes to his own son?
I’m actually annoyed that Navika didn’t reveal Aryan’s chats on Times Now. Would have been another ‘maal you have’ moment.
But jokes aside, even if it’s politically motivated, at least SRK’s fans should admit that his son might be a drug addict and a poor role model for his social media followers. Both things can be true at once.
Most people know what happens in movie industries, colleges and even schools these days have people doing drugs. This is not surprising at all.
Yeah, well, I’m definitely surprised. I’m not aware of college kids consuming drugs on a regular basis. It’s pretty sad if this is true.
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October 7, 2021 at 12:08 PM
As Jay pointed out, if you wanted to clean up bollywood, you would start at some other place else and not a soft target of a kid who hasn’t done any films or TV.
So there is political angle and witch hunt angle there. Once that is there, it’s hard to understand what illegal things the NCB themselves did to get to the point of arresting aryaan.
Aryaan taking drug will destroy his life or his loved ones. Not mine of my loved ones. Who cares.
GVMT playing politics can destroy innocent lives.
As far as worshipping stars or cricketers or whatever, it has always been and it will always be there.
I’m a diehard fan of Raj Kapoor the filmmaker. Yes, he probably had an affair, was alcoholic, etc, but that’s his life.
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October 7, 2021 at 12:15 PM
This will hurt SRK and Gauri more. Nothing more needs to be said. Of course if Aryan did many illegal things drugs wise, punish him.
But ultimately (‘if that rumour mill is true on SRK and Gauri’) they should definitely feel the most guilt here. I would as a parent 100%. People will say Aryan is a grown boy or man but he’s exposed to a certain lifestyle all his life. If he’s constantly hearing ‘mummy’ does this or that he won’t have any guidance or moral guidance here at all.
Might be harsh but it’s mostly on the parents and parenting example set here.
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October 7, 2021 at 12:20 PM
Even now if my 5 year old behaves untoward we look at ourselves to understand if we’re doing something wrong or is he just being a 5 year old idiot child.
At 23 years old he will know right from wrong but you juxtapose his life and the status of his father on him you can see all kinds of messy situations.
Look no further than Prince Harry.
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October 7, 2021 at 12:20 PM
I don’t get why is this hard to fathom for folks here. NCB can’t arrest if there is no drugs on you. That’s why you see movies where during raid, the guy drops his stash in someone’s pocket or jacket and keeps nothing on himself. If you don’t have it, there is NO ARREST. If I go to a party with 10 people and 2 of them have drugs, they arrest that 2 and not 10. If you have medical test proven you took drugs right before I came, you can be arrested but even medical test is clean.
There itself the case fails. There is nothing more to it. If you want to find out more, you can confiscate the phone and let the person go. There is no point in doing custody for days and days together without any logical reason. He’s not going to run away!
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October 7, 2021 at 12:21 PM
Master – we do not know specific details. There could be legitimate reasons for custody.
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October 7, 2021 at 12:34 PM
NCB arrested Rhea C and her brother without any drugs being found on them in person. So this has, in fact, happened before.
And I believe Maneshinde is a lawyer who knows all the loopholes of the Law. If he can’t get Aryan out, I’d suggest you take over his place.
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October 7, 2021 at 12:26 PM
Blaming parents is easy but Indian almost all the high class youngsters indulge in drugs at least some point in their life. It is just the status quo. It is not about parents influence, it’s the lifestyle. On another hand, every poor kid will do smoking, alcohol and drugs (check punjab) and they do it even if their parents never did it. It’s the state of the lifestyle they live. Addiction is something else but attempting either smoking, drinking or drugs is not that uncommon at different levels in society.
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October 7, 2021 at 12:38 PM
In his case, the parents indulge in drugs themselves.
It’s a different thing if parents are blameless but kids go on to take drugs.
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October 7, 2021 at 12:27 PM
Jay: How will the court not say the reason for custody. Is it a secret hidden? They have to pronounce the reason for custody. That’s a given and they do.
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October 7, 2021 at 12:36 PM
I don’t know ins and outs of legal. I’m shooting from the hip here.
An extreme example. If I got intelligence on 9/10/01 about terrorist attack on twin towers I may bend certain rules for certain reasons.
We don’t know what kind of case we are dealing with. Is it someone unlucky, some small time crook or the next Escobar. No one knows. Do we need to know, I don’t. I don’t care at all here just typing.
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October 7, 2021 at 12:42 PM
Okay, now SRK is drug addict? Lol. Please stop it. You have some idea but that doesn’t make it FACT!
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October 7, 2021 at 12:52 PM
Mother’s a drug addict; son’s a drug addict. So what’s the probability that the father is Maryada Purshottam Ram?
Anyway, you are a blind SRK supporter. Keep on believing whatever you think is correct. Just don’t expect others to take it on face value.
This has been my pet peeve all along — there’s no decency left in fan wars. It’s like I’m personally attacking fans by pointing out flaws in their idols. And this has specially been true with SRK fans.
I’ve managed to piss off SRK fans. I managed to piss off Naveen with my review for Bell Bottom.
I must be doing something right!
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October 7, 2021 at 12:56 PM
Saket, Obama took drugs in his youth to such an extent, that he and his friends were calling themselves the choom gang. And this was in the 1970s, where drugs were seen as the devil. Is Obama a bad role model? Try telling that to millions around the world.
You are doing nothing more than being the local aunty who puts people down for their lifestyles.
This is ridiculous, and highly political, as was calling Rhea and others, purely to distract the public and keep things going till Amit Shah could take back charge for Bihar.
Aryan Khan will be out tomorrow, and SRK will be back to shooting without announcements. Meanwhile farmers were mowed down by a home minister’s son who has still not been arrested.
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October 7, 2021 at 1:09 PM
When Obama was taking drugs, he certainly wasn’t a role model. And he is NOT KNOWN as a person who took drugs! What are you on about?
And cut out this Aunty shit with me. I understand your moral values are different, and you are more accepting of the drug menace. I’m not and never will be. I hope you don’t pass on your moral values to others.
I don’t comment on people’s lifestyles. Hell, I don’t even care to read gossip sites.
Why are you defending SRK’s son here if you are really worried about farmers being mowed down? Please go to change.org or galvanize people to oust the present Government. Enough of this whataboutery!
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October 7, 2021 at 12:57 PM
So, now drug consumer is a drug addict? Peak Aunty behavior.
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October 7, 2021 at 1:21 PM
The problem is, I have seen what happened to Disha Ravi. And I’m not as brave as her.
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October 7, 2021 at 1:30 PM
The real problem is, people say they care. But they don’t! They don’t care enough.
They won’t do anything about the status quo. And I’m not just pointing fingers at you either — I’m one of those people.
But then I’ve realized it’s highly hypocritical of me to make noises when I won’t do anything about it.
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October 7, 2021 at 1:48 PM
“So what’s the probability that the father is Maryada Purshottam Ram?”
No, that is only you in this whole world who doesn’t smoke, doesn’t touch alcohol and doesn’t even think about drugs. You are the only true person worthy to live on this planet, we all should go to mars!
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October 7, 2021 at 1:58 PM
I don’t approve of smoking or drinking but that doesn’t mean I’m on a mission to brand people evil if they indulge in these things. They kill people, sure, but rather slowly.
Drugs, on the other hand, are really bad for the brain. And more often than not, they mess with a person’s life, forever. Whatever’s left of it, anyway.
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October 7, 2021 at 1:51 PM
Btw, dirnking alcohol or smoking is not as bad as thinking negative on someone so much and showing hatred. As soon the news about Aryan comes up.. this is your reaction!
“Ha Ha. Expect him to get out soon and prepare for his Bollywood debut.Classic Bollywood. Never change!”
As I said – Isse acha toh pee hi lete!
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October 7, 2021 at 2:05 PM
Where’s the hatred? I think you have comprehension issues, like your wording was totally off with the B-grade actress comment. It came across as highly misogynistic they way you phrased it.
If anything, I was making a comment about BOLLYWOOD — and how it rewards people who are even sent to jail!
How’s that supposed to indicate hatred directed towards Aryan or SRK?
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October 7, 2021 at 6:09 PM
“The one stop solution for all of the country’s woes, right from farmer killings to SSR suicide to Sachin’s pandora to Bollywood junkies.. the Prime Minister MUST resign” – Congressi dalals and chamchas 😉
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October 7, 2021 at 10:53 AM
Drugs, alcohol is an issue. For everyone.
The people in high society probably has it more than we regular people do due to access they have in terms of finance and everything else. They can easily get things.
Arresting one Aryaan isn’t going to make any difference.
Who is arresting the big fish? How is it coming into the country?
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October 7, 2021 at 11:02 AM
I think a bunch of people, mostly peddlers, have been arrested so far.
This is the other side of the story — one that doesn’t get reported:
Wankhede said, “We are not targeting anyone at all. We have nothing against him. We have arrested more than 300 people in the last 10 months. Out of those, at the most, there would be about 4 to 5 known people. How can you say that we are targeting anyone? Most of those arrested in the last one year are hard-core, drug-related criminals.”
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October 7, 2021 at 11:26 AM
There are too many comments to go through. Please discuss the topic not the commentator.s ; and language civil. If there is objection to a comment, please tag me.
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October 7, 2021 at 12:22 PM
So much PASSION for srk’s son. LOL
Looks like we have another abhishek bachchan on our hands.
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October 7, 2021 at 12:26 PM
Hahaha
Jokes aside but one thing on Abhishek…he seems out of many Bollywood star children an exemplary role model. Has he had any controversy?
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October 7, 2021 at 12:33 PM
Don’t worry, Junaid khan is coming with YRF’s big launch. That was favor for signing crappy Thugs of Hindostan!
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October 7, 2021 at 12:36 PM
Abhishek is good example for a star son.
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October 7, 2021 at 1:02 PM
Human beings are imperfect by nature. Once we accept this fact, nothing will surprise us.
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October 7, 2021 at 1:40 PM
Most star kids are if you are talking about from that era with amitabh, jeetendra, rishi kapoor, dhermendra, shatru, etc…
Doesn’t mean they didn’t do it, just means they didn’t get caught or someone didn’t witch hunt them.
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October 7, 2021 at 2:00 PM
Not sure how this responses ended here, it was supposed to be under Jay comment about abhisek
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October 7, 2021 at 2:07 PM
It is in response to Jay..Or there is some other AB Jr comment?
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October 7, 2021 at 12:55 PM
Tomorrow the judge will decide on his bail application. Usually they confiscate passport as a guarantee and expects availability at all times. Bail with conditions. Salman Khan used to take permission whenever he had to travel abroad for shoots and shows. This will continue until all charges are dropped.
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October 7, 2021 at 1:05 PM
150 comments and counting!
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October 7, 2021 at 1:06 PM
You were looking for traffic 🙂
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October 7, 2021 at 1:34 PM
Aryaan, Super Hit already 🙂
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October 7, 2021 at 1:41 PM
The funny thing is, I only appreciated Rahul’s post, which I thought was very balanced and moved on to talking about Bell Bottom’s box office performance.
But then you have accusations about hatred and what not flying around, for no good reason and things escalate pretty fast. Won’t be the last time either, although, hopefully I won’t be involved again!
Famous last words, I know…
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October 7, 2021 at 1:06 PM
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October 7, 2021 at 1:39 PM
Shah Rukh Khan and his lookalike Prashant Walde/Pics: Satej Shinde
Following Aryan Khan’s arrest, Shah Rukh Khan’s scenes from South Mumbai schedule of Atlee’s film were shot with his body double Prashant Walde on Sunday
Updated on: 06 October,2021 10:32 PM IST | Mumbai
midday online correspondent
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October 7, 2021 at 1:55 PM
Thugs of Hindostan, the rest of the box office (4)
November 12, 2018
Last Thread
Posted in the bad | 420 Comments »
Thugs of Hindostan, the rest of the box office (3)
November 10, 2018
Last thread
Posted in the bad | 480 Comments »
Thugs of Hindostan, the rest of the box office (2)
November 8, 2018
Thread one of this week
Posted in the bad | 434 Comments »
Thugs of Hindostan, the rest of the box office
November 6, 2018
last week’s thread
Posted in the bad | 432 Comments »
TOH has record breaking comments and record breaking threads.
It was blockbuster thread.
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October 7, 2021 at 1:58 PM
WTH!.. Are you not the same person who said I was being insensitive when I posted this same picture of beating a dead horse? Now, you are posting it? WOW
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October 7, 2021 at 2:00 PM
At that time I was angry. But as days passed, I just laughed it off. I just am remembering those days. Nothing to do with the present. You have become too sensitive and thinking something else.
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October 7, 2021 at 2:03 PM
Good.. I didn’t even participate in the 1st thread. I know it will nosedive badly. I came mid way in 2nd thread and posted this exact comment as my 1st comment.
I have been away from this thread and usually don’t comment until I watch the movie but I can’t this one first day. With all the reception and reports, no way this one will do 300 crores. D3 was not this bad. Real final collections = 200 crs (max), YRF collections = 240 crores. I don’t see it even doing PRDP in reality but the huge start will help it sale towards 200 crs. Race 3 did 165, I think as a solo release.
Then some fanatics started calling it classic and that it’ll do 400 crores or 450 crores and then kept laughing at others. Then it was an open playfield. Lol.
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October 7, 2021 at 2:08 PM
At that time Satyam posted many comments. Very interesting and also very funny thread.
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October 7, 2021 at 2:11 PM
Man, I remember, I mauled TOH in my comments.
And none of the Aamir fans went after me for posting my honest comments. Thank you, Aamirians!
Really appreciate it.
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October 7, 2021 at 2:13 PM
Yes, I don’t think any SRK fans went berserk on you for JHMS or Zero as well. Give credit where it’s due!
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October 7, 2021 at 2:15 PM
Didn’t post a single comment about JHMS but I was called a hater for my comments on Zero.
Will have to dig them out, but I’m sure they are there.
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October 7, 2021 at 2:22 PM
I watched my first ever FDFS with TOH. What a choice! Awful movie overall. First half average, 2nd half epic fail.
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October 7, 2021 at 2:23 PM
Yeah, I watched it on Friday as well. Just an awful second half but I was already tuned out by then.
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October 7, 2021 at 2:38 PM
It was on TV and I stopped it after 15-20 minutes of loud dialogues..Not my cup of tea.
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October 7, 2021 at 2:43 PM
You missed out on a great nap.
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October 7, 2021 at 3:06 PM
On TV, you can stop anytime 🙂 I touched Bala song in Housefull4 and left it and never bothered to check the movie.
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October 7, 2021 at 2:32 PM
I have seen many bloggers/FaceBookers who see all international quality stuff but they go weak as soon as their star movie is in discussion. I think that is very human trait. You have all the rules and policies for other people but for your own, you are going to give benefit of doubt publicly.
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October 7, 2021 at 9:53 PM
TOH was an ok film as per bollywood standards. But people expect a lot from Aamir these days. If this film had salman or akshay in place of Aamir it wudnt have been mauled like that and may have even worked at box office. Worse films have done a lot better in bollywood.
I personally liked the film.
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October 7, 2021 at 2:11 PM
Even all that I still went and watched TOH in big screen after 1 week. By then it was all done and dusted. I didn’t wanted to miss Aamir and Amitabh on big screen and actually liked Aamir’s performance very much.
My review: Aamir rocks, movie sucks!
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October 7, 2021 at 1:56 PM
The main point is that everyone here are sure that everyone or majority in Bollywood is doing drugs and every rich youngsters doing drugs. Then how come you go and catch only 1 top star’s son out of the blue. Saket is very sure Gauri Khan does drugs regularly. Then, how her or no other prominent personality is ever caught in decades? That clearly screams the setup!
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October 7, 2021 at 2:19 PM
some music
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October 7, 2021 at 4:16 PM
Tere girne main bhi teri haar nahi
Ke tu aadmi hai, avtaar nahin…
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October 7, 2021 at 2:28 PM
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October 7, 2021 at 2:36 PM
This has somewhat similar presentation in Kajol’s room..
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October 7, 2021 at 2:43 PM
Yes. Even I thought it was DDLJ song.
Srk was so charming in that Baazigar song and I think that established him as the hero villain combo. Abbas Mastaan could never repeat that success afterwards.
Bollywood, I love you!
And Amitabh in Zindagi hasne gane ke liye. Such a lively dance and such a meaningful song!
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October 7, 2021 at 4:52 PM
Both Baazigar and DDLJ songs are done by Saroj Khan, so appear similar!
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October 7, 2021 at 2:50 PM
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October 7, 2021 at 4:13 PM
What a song.
I found out just a year or two years ago that this song tune is a direct lift.
Oh well, still doesn’t take away the greatness of this song. I liked E Mere Humsafar even more.
Dying to see Aamir in regular getup like this.
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October 7, 2021 at 5:26 PM
yep..
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October 7, 2021 at 5:40 PM
One of my favourite songs.😍🤩
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October 8, 2021 at 1:37 AM
I watched Akele Hum Akele Tum again recently. I miss the Aamir of those times.. that spontaneity, innocence, the natural actor in him. The film itself is not the greatest in his filmography, but it was a good film in its time.. with the right sentiments in place.
Aamir was really good in there. There is a scene when he comes back home drunk because he felt he could not live up to his son’s expectations. There was no need for the staggered steps of a drunkard, no need to act like someone drunk. He is in the background with the main frame being on his sleeping son, but one look at his face, and you knew that he was a bit drunk and hurting inside. It was a natural, heartfelt performance.
I do respect (but I admit frustrated with) his approach to work during the last decade. But, as an cinema lover, you want to see more of him., more of that spontaneity, natural actor, more of those heartfelt performances. His ability as an actor often gets overlooked because of his involvement at all levels in his film. But he is a tremendous actor. I miss that actor of the 90s.
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October 8, 2021 at 2:12 AM
Think about him as a key player in a football team being ‘managed’ because of his age. Or how certain tennis players managed the tour by picking and choosing the tournaments they wanted to play. Obviously sports are weekly and films yearly. But the idea is similar.
I would give an apt wrestling example for munna as he’s a huge fan!
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October 8, 2021 at 3:19 AM
are you inducing me to name some? Hulk Hogan?
Kohli is trying to say the same? balance the workload?
ps – I have free access to new matches and I haven’t touched them even with barge pole.
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October 8, 2021 at 3:31 AM
🤣
No Hogan. But Kohli is a prime example of a guy lessening his workload for the bigger battles in life. BTW this use to be about older, successful generation doing this but it is normal for younger athletes to do it.
Read Emma Raducanu’s interviews post US Open victory and even at 18 years old she realises she’ll need to manage her career by picking the right tournaments to play.
Look at Messi who got subbed off by Pochettino in PSG game 2 weeks back.
Ronaldo was dropped on Saturday by OGS.
To be a long term bet you have to manage your workload.
Akshay’s work ethic should be applauded but he’s an outlier. Vast majority- Khan’s, Ranbir, Hrithik, Ranveer are picky and choosy. I don’t see the issue unless you really want a buffet of trashy films every Friday.
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October 7, 2021 at 5:06 PM
Baazigar and DDLJ were awesome soundtracks
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October 7, 2021 at 5:25 PM
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October 7, 2021 at 5:29 PM
The joy and feeling of agelessness of being an Akshay fan talking about next release amidst budhaoo and pakaaoo public here sharing old songs of their stars in young age
Or some film is celebrating their 25 years of release. 🤣
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October 7, 2021 at 5:43 PM
The above is in response to Jayshah and Marcussuggesting its better to not have films ready to release. I mean, kaun hain aap log?
Record book ke keepers or film lovers?
I am so looking forward to hear the next hit song from bollywood (bell bottoms songs were disappointin). Probably Soorya would have.
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October 7, 2021 at 5:50 PM
I have plenty of passions aside from movies. Movies are last. Sports, TV shows – checking latest movies from Bollywood as the collections suggest are not a priority for many!
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October 8, 2021 at 1:33 AM
You are an exceptionally talented Aamir Khan fan. 😁
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October 8, 2021 at 2:02 AM
Thanks and you are Akshay’s greatest fan ❤
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October 7, 2021 at 6:12 PM
Diwali’s still a while away. India’s barely vaccinated 30% of its adult population thus far. Its a volatile situation where the earlier the film’s released, the better. They should have taken Dusshera as of now.
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October 7, 2021 at 9:57 PM
Diwali release is ok. Dont see a third wave breaking out by then. The question is whether audience by large will be interested or not.
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October 8, 2021 at 3:07 AM
If the film’s good enough, there’s no reason why audiences would stay away. As proved by the performances of the Punjabi & Telugu films domestically and Bond worldwide. There’s always the pent up demand factor. Hindi audiences have been starved of a good film for 20 months now.
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October 8, 2021 at 3:10 AM
Yep agree.
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October 8, 2021 at 4:28 AM
You will need a really good film to release the pent-up demand. But Indian BO recovery is going to be gradual, not sudden with just one film. It will take 6-7 biggies or more to get to a Shang Chi moment at domestic BO.
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October 8, 2021 at 6:23 AM
I do hope you count the Punjabi, Telugu and Tamil box office as part of the Indian box office since they have already hit pre pandemic levels with just 2 films.
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October 8, 2021 at 8:36 AM
No, pan India box office resurgence cant be judged by some regional movies doing well in one state or another. That is like a regional party winning a state election catering to a particular demographic, but it does not guarantee the party is going to win Lok Sabha elections.
We will need at least 6-7 Bollywood biggies to gradually bring back the pan india audience before we get a solid 200 cr nett grosser film. And 200 cr is the minimum that the big budget films will need to make enuf profits to get a Hit verdict.
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October 8, 2021 at 9:46 AM
Regional political parties do not win as many Lok Sabha seats as national parties in assembly elections. Master’s all India collections are 165 Cr and Vakeel Saab is at 115. These are figures Sooyavanshi or 83 would take any day in the present scenario.
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October 8, 2021 at 10:18 AM
Just because a regional movie is running housefull in one state does not mean the next anticipated hindi film will be running to housefull theaters all over the country.
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October 8, 2021 at 2:02 PM
If Sooryavanshi runs housefull in its “home states” of Maharashtra and Delhi/UP, the job’s done.
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October 7, 2021 at 6:25 PM
Frankly, there’s no valid reason as to why my comments have to undergo moderation after reading all this nonsense on the thread!
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October 7, 2021 at 7:00 PM
If we can get hold of Satyam!
I don’t have admin power.
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October 7, 2021 at 9:49 PM
Dont ridicule the blockbuster debut of srk’s son. All thanks to a srk fanatic.
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October 8, 2021 at 1:32 AM
Well Deserved 50 days !!
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October 8, 2021 at 2:10 AM
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October 8, 2021 at 2:13 AM
They both look great here!
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October 8, 2021 at 3:23 AM
Naveen once wrote on this very blog
‘This is what is being followed by most :
‘If the Distributor’s cost is X
Then a movie is a HIT if nett collection = 2X
Superhit if nett > 2.5X or a huge grosser
Blockbuster if nett > 3X or a huge grosser’
So was Bell Bottom’s DC = 15Cr?
I’ll give the link of such comments. By his own words his box office knowledge is awful! By the way this is HIS standard. Not industry standard. Industry would compare the distributor shares with the cost. A guy like Nahta would not even call BB a semi hit let alone a hit. BOI/Taran more liberal types won’t either. It will be Naveen and Sunil.
Let’s bookmark this comment. Naveen will eventually in the future call Bell Bottom a blockbuster!
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October 8, 2021 at 3:51 AM
BB is flop to average. There are no 2 ways about it. And right now its history. Its basically did the way Tenet performed in US market when it released in an untimely manner. Tenet still did well in international circuit, but BB did not.
I am just hoping Sooryavanshi on this Diwali will not do the way WW84 did on last Christmas.
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October 8, 2021 at 10:11 AM
Yes this is a true benchmark. Stick to it.
What is Distributor’s cost for Bell Bottoms?
My hearsay is that it was done at profit share and there was no fixed cost. Usually distributors do not agree but with the issue at hand they did. Effective cost has come to 10cr.
In pre pandemic, BB would habe got sold at 80 cr + 25 cr OTT.
In pandemic, it is sold at 75 cr OTT and 10 cr dostributors cost. So using the same formula as above, BB has sailed through.
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October 8, 2021 at 10:21 AM
Where exactly you got this 10 cr DP? Out of ur imagination?
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October 8, 2021 at 11:17 AM
Evidence please. Not hear say. We are not politicians here.
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October 8, 2021 at 10:07 PM
I have been asking everyone from Day 1 – What is the distribution price of Bell Bottoms? No respomse but all gyaan from both of you.
@ Marcus and Jayshah- Why are you applying your biased verdict on movies without keeping distribution cost in mind. My source is internal. I am still looking for a reliable publicly available source.
I thought the way Marcus was creating brouhaha as usual, he might have numbers with him. Seems he was all gas as always.
Give me the numbers mate. Elese go the golden way, silence. Noises are not acceptable by me.
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October 9, 2021 at 1:24 AM
Lol, so you pulled out a DP of 10 cr **Edited**? No source at all, but an absurd lie. How can it be so ridiculously low? Specially when the OTT deficit itself was 25 cr for the theatrical release. Logically the DP wud be more than that. So if we give benefit of doubt and say its 25 cr, then BB has only made DS of 15 cr, thats 10 cr loss straight away.
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October 9, 2021 at 2:33 AM
From what I saw reported around:
Landing cost (PC plus P&A) of the film was 60cr (excluding Akshay Kumar fees which is based on profits share). Akshay Kumar’s share will be around 100cr.
The Satellite/digital and other rights were sold for for 140cr.
The film got a rebate for being shot in UK (30%-40%)- roughly 20cr- of production budget of 50cr if it ran for 2 weeks (which it did). It is the main reason for theatrical release.
It does seem the rights and rebate covered all the costs.
For the theatrical:
There is a sharing scheme between producer and distributors for the theatrical release. 60% goes to distributors in first week, 55% in 2nd and 50% each as from week 3, which is unusual practice compared to usual DP and DS, but it was adopted keeping the current pandemic and restrictions in mind.
It will most probably end up at 33cr net.
Make of it what you want.
My take is that producer and especially, Akshay Kumar have made money. Distributors less so.
Marcus claimed it would be average at these figures a few weeks back and has now changed goal posts. Naveen is claiming it to be a hit.
My take: Not a flop, not a hit. Average at best (mainly because of the pandemic, the trending, the revenues and OTT release scheme and that most stakeholders have not lost money). Impossible to predict any performance in normal times. Some of the above comparison metrics used are downright ridiculous.
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October 9, 2021 at 2:56 AM
Not going to argue with that. It’s never a hit. Every website was ecstatic to report figures. By end of first week no one was reporting daily figures. It was so obvious the movie’s collections were below expectations. Everyone in media would be interested in a hit – they wouldn’t stop talking numbers. BOI lost interest as early as Day 6. They themselves had little positive to say.
Everything anecdotal alongside the OTT deal and your numbers which I’ve seen on a site elsewhere suggest distributors are not calling this a hit movie.
Only a fan would. It deserves its brownies for taking the risk but no business person enters a transaction with a loss of 10Cr already! That’s in reference to the OTT price that Marcus pointed out and was known before release.
The other point was the pre release expectations. The trade was definitely expecting a 5Cr range opening, they make such expectations based on some idea of what the movie needs to achieve. That’s why the opening was deemed sub par from the off. The movie needed a 25Cr first week and then to sail through 40Cr at least for a narrative of success.
It’s short. We are only wasting our time on this topic because 1 person will eventually call this a blockbuster.
Even Akshay’s pre release interviews had things like 30Cr is worth 100Cr and 50Cr is worth 150Cr. So we know what ranges he sought for here. He’s in the Gold territory at lower end of 100Cr pre pandemic.
Akshay Kumar knows more than his own fans – I’m sure of that! I know it’s hard for this gentleman to digest and he’ll desperately try to spin things with fantasy genre like storylines but the writing was on the wall very early on.
The one positive is what Saket pointed out. The long term trend was decent (day 1 vs total). But I would say I’d expect that in a market devoid of front loading and one that looks like it’s been transported back to 20 years ago.
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October 9, 2021 at 4:11 AM
“Marcus claimed it would be average at these figures a few weeks back and has now changed goal posts.”
LOL, it is so common but thanks for bringing this up. Not a sign of integrity.
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October 9, 2021 at 4:11 AM
“Marcus claimed it would be average at these figures a few weeks back and has now changed goal posts.”
LOL, it is so common but thanks for bringing this up. Not a sign of integrity.
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October 9, 2021 at 4:17 AM
Rahul seems to have sanest comment out of the other two. Numbers, thats needed. Looks like Distributor’s cost is unknown. As i said, most would consider the movie to be a success. Now whether you call that average in your books or a hit in my book its all the same.
JAYSHAH, dont support Marcus just because he is in your group and has a common interest. Else best avoidable.
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October 9, 2021 at 4:23 AM
I’m a common sense person. No one is calling it a hit. Find a single source doing so and then comment, a proper source and I’ll even accept your bogus BOI.
And no average and hit are not the same.
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October 9, 2021 at 4:20 AM
I again dialled one of my known contacts in distribution and he said 10 cr cost was notional. BB was release on commission basis due to uncertainty around the response. The lower end expectation was 25 cr and higher end of 50 cr.
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October 9, 2021 at 4:24 AM
And I dialled a known contact. They said it was 25Cr cost. Will you believe me?
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October 8, 2021 at 3:34 AM
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October 8, 2021 at 3:37 AM
Salman Khan’s ‘Radhe: Your Most Wanted Bhai’ re-releases in a theatre in Tripura, fans flock to watch the five months old film.
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October 8, 2021 at 10:13 AM
400 odd tix were sold over the weekend. Flocking is also done by pair of ducks.
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October 8, 2021 at 3:54 AM
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October 8, 2021 at 4:15 AM
The news media has become so alarmingly predictable that this is no surprise.
Aryan Khan taking drugs or not taking them shouldn’t be seen as a ‘sansanikhez khulasa’. Because it shouldn’t matter or affect general lives of middle class Indians bogged down by rising fuel prices.
As a film forum, ideally we must be discussing films and box office threads. But theek hai. Cool.
And as citizens, this facade of the media and diversion tactics should have been crystal clear to anyone using common sense before analysing and overanalysing and writing blogs about a decadent generation.
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October 8, 2021 at 4:37 AM
Fuel prices is the top news item here in UK. People have gone bonkers, queues of hours to fill up. The energy bills will go up hugely too. Energy companies are going bust.
We got fuel on Sunday morning at 3am!
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October 8, 2021 at 8:32 AM
Yayyy!!!
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October 8, 2021 at 8:38 AM
That’s good news!
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October 8, 2021 at 8:36 AM
Aryan Khan bail plea rejected!
It is ironic that all the SSR fans(mostly bots and immature kids) are rejoicing and trending #JusticeforSSR hoping whole Bollywood be jailed for not supporting SSR and now the official advocate of SSR himself is calling this investigation unfair. Lol.
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/hindi/bollywood/news/sushant-singh-rajputs-family-lawyer-vikas-singh-whats-happening-to-aryan-khan-is-unfair-exclusive/articleshow/86864606.cms
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October 8, 2021 at 8:43 AM
Ouch! Life is choooo unfair.
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October 8, 2021 at 9:18 AM
Life is always unfair but it not as miserable as yours who just posts the shooting schedules of his fav star, not movies mind you, the schedule updates. Lol.
Also, even if I come once in a while for half a day is more than enough comments than you lingering around here everyday without anything worthwhile than Chadda’s shooting updates. Yes, life is really unfair!
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October 8, 2021 at 9:36 AM
LOL, why so much hatred for Chaddha? It takes a pathetic life to keep ranting not only abt some silly star all through these years, but also defend his spoilt son day in and day out on a controversy that no one cares about.
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October 8, 2021 at 10:17 AM
There is no hatred for Chaddha and I’m be the first in to watch it and I’m sure it’ll be one of best movies of Aamir’s career as the template of Forrest Gump is fantastic. Even if they match 75%, it’ll be huge.
Secondly, I’m interested in the movie but has no interest in the shooting schedules being reported by dimwit fanatics like you. Do you see anyone posting Pathan or Atlee’s shooting schedules? Nope! Movie will come when it will come, then we can discuss.
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October 8, 2021 at 10:20 AM
“.. some silly star all through these years..”
Yes, SRK is very silly star. Lol. No one knows him apart from me and few others.
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October 8, 2021 at 10:24 AM
If you dont want to know abt shooting schedules, just ignore the info. Who is forcing u? Better stick to ur defense for srk and his son instead? Thats more in-tune towards ur personality.
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October 8, 2021 at 10:28 AM
Lol, I mentioned for the reason so you realize, if you don’t want to read about Srk or his son, why you keep commenting on my comments. Oh, maybe that’s in tune to your personality. I’m not bothered about your comments, just showing how miserable is the life just posting that!
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October 8, 2021 at 10:47 AM
Ha! Dont think u r that important that i read all ur comments unless u r replying to mine. Moronic defense of a star’s family members by a fanatic does not deserve such attention.
But when u clog this blog with your non-stop rants for more than a day, its pathetic behavior and needs to be called out and made fun of. Deal with it.
And yes get a life.
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October 8, 2021 at 8:51 AM
SSR’s advocate worked under SRK’s mom for a while. But yes, this investigation is ridiculous.
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October 8, 2021 at 9:15 AM
Pathan will now be postponed to 2023.
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October 8, 2021 at 9:34 AM
Don’t think so, Pathan would be on Oct 2 mostly.
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October 8, 2021 at 9:41 AM
Adi Chopra may want to wait out this spell of negativity. Anyways, Pathan schedule got postponed now.
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October 8, 2021 at 9:45 AM
This is negativity? Bhai’s films got the biggest openings when his court hearings came up. And there is a year to October 2, 2022.
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October 8, 2021 at 9:50 AM
Why else are you guys so bothered and worked up? Srk does not have a bad guy image, Salman’s usp is that.
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October 8, 2021 at 10:00 AM
LOL, Marcus back to his old tricks 🙂
People forget things in few days and there is 350+ days left before Pathan scheduled release date.
Aryaan case is nothing like how the media went crazy during SSR. How long did it take for people to forget as soon as perticular media group stopped covering it???
In less than a month it was a forgotten story…
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October 8, 2021 at 10:02 AM
I should not have posted “LOL, Marcus back to his old tricks”
It’s a pretty childish comment on my part. Mod, please remove.
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October 8, 2021 at 10:11 AM
I am bothered because it mostly looks like a political witch hunt and because I have a different attitude with drugs.
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October 8, 2021 at 10:45 AM
Agree, so either some people are too childish to not know any difference or they know but are negative minded people who are completely okay with it being witch hunt.
Like i had posted earlier, aryaan taking drugs ruin his life and his loved ones, not mine or anyone elses.
GOVT playing political games ruins innocent people lives which someday can be your or your loved ones life.
One can easily argue Cigarettes (second hand smoke) and drunk driving (running over innocent people) kills lots more people than some innocent person dying from someone taking drug.
This is where i disagree with saket, if he has such an issue with drug, he should have a lot bigger issue with second hand smoke and drunk driving because that kills innocent people.
who cares if some drug attic overdose and takes his life.
Also, what’s the stand on gutka, how many lives does that take?
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October 8, 2021 at 11:08 AM
Z, the main difference is the type of drug which is completely omitted in all discussions. Gaanja and Charas (part of cannabis) are different than hard drugs. The stuff which was caught now is 6 gms of charas with Abbas Merchant. Cocaine is different issue altogether!. It is expensive and not easily available for middle and lower class folks!
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October 8, 2021 at 11:33 AM
Not reading any articles on it so not sure what’s being listed but:
1) if it’s caught with Z than why is A being arrested?
2) what is the standard protocol for someone getting caught with 6 gms?
3) I saw you posted few things which leads me to believe what aman has been saying about which hunt.
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October 8, 2021 at 12:35 PM
“Advocate Singh explained, “This entire law (NDPS – Narcotic Drugs and Psychotropic Substances Act) is possession based and quantity of possession becomes the sentence. If there is no possession, the question of a case does not arise unless you are a peddler or a supplier, which is the fourth category. Aryan was neither found with possession nor was he a supplier. He is at best a consumer. And calling him consumer is also debatable, because till now there is nothing found in his hair follicle. I don’t think they have even tested that. What is happening to him is unfair.”
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October 8, 2021 at 12:35 PM
This is not Aryan’s lawyer – but SSR’s lawyer statement who is not related to the case at all.
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October 8, 2021 at 1:11 PM
“What happened to the list which was in confession statement?”
Confession statement? Where did you read it? There’s none. The list is all which has been caught from all of 8 folks. Aryan knows just 2 folks in that. One his friend Abbas – with 6 gms and another Achit who introduced to organizers to invite him as VIP on the cruise to sell tickets.
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October 8, 2021 at 12:59 PM
What happened to the list which was in confession statement?
Nobody keeps all drugs in pocket for possession to be deemed illegal. If it is in vicinity (say with in room of presence then someone can make case, it was for consumption and above limit). Even in this case, it would be difficult to pin point one person to drugs if there are more people. Only way you can prove that drugs are for people in room if you do blood test and correlate to drugs found in room.
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October 8, 2021 at 1:13 PM
Aryan was standing in the line to enter ship. They asked him and checked his bag and checked him and nothing found. He didn’t enter ship or even checked his room. They just took him as one of his friend was caught with 6 gms charas. There is no case if there’s no Aryan arrest.
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October 8, 2021 at 1:11 PM
This is just heartbreaking. I will take a sort of small break and I dont have the heart to discuss about films or anything as of now.
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October 8, 2021 at 1:21 PM
For some it is fun and they are enjoying a kid without drugs dragged to jail just for political witch hunt! Some are sure that SRK as father is drug addict and he taught his kids to become additcts as well! So much sanity talk here!
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October 8, 2021 at 1:19 PM
Just for Munna. This is official statement and what NCB and everyone presented in the court. It is not heresay like other articles.
“I have a friend, Prateek, who introduced me to someone who was in touch with the organizers. He said I will be invited as VVIP. Only with that intention to add colour to the cruise, I went. There were 1,300 people and they have arrested only 17. So the entire cruise is not connected to the passengers and as one of the persons from Bollywood… but I am not connected to anyone… There are chats between me and Prateek…Prateek is also a friend of Arbaaz. So he invited Arbaaz. Based on the aforesaid events, I reached the gate where Arbaaz was also there. Before we could go to the ship, NCB asked us questions. When we started from the ship, they asked questions if I took drugs and searched my bags and my person. They found nothing. They took my mobile instrument and then took me to the NCB office.”
” I was arrested and picked up at the gate. I had no complaint to the officers. As far as this case is concerned, on the first day, I readily agreed for one more day of remand, thinking there will be some development. Apart from some more arrests, nothing more has happened. As far as my interrogation that has taken place, it was connected to my stay abroad. Nothing else has been questioned. If the arrested are picked up on my statement, any senior officer connected with my investigation would ascertain that it is the same person or that I have any association, but nothing has happened. “
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October 8, 2021 at 2:14 PM
This is Aryan Khan’s lawyers version. Not NCB.
https://www.barandbench.com/news/litigation/shahrukh-khans-son-aryan-khan-explains-to-court-events-leading-to-his-arrest-in-drug-case
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October 8, 2021 at 2:21 PM
Check the thread for complete argument…ASG presented some evidence but Manshinde said that is inadmissible because of some SC ruling..
ASG (referring to statement): I cannot read in open court, but milords may see it
ASG asks the court to read statement by #AryanKhan
Maneshinde (for Aryan Khan): These statements are inadmissible, in light of SC judgments
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October 8, 2021 at 2:42 PM
That is whatsapp chats. It is inadmissible according to recent Supreme Court judgements. Without that, there is no other proof.
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October 8, 2021 at 2:21 PM
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/10/08/oecd-reaches-deal-on-corporate-tax-after-ireland-agrees.html
This is more important news; remember Jayshah talking about this. Is the agreement of any value or should we just celebrate that countries around the world agree on something?
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October 8, 2021 at 2:27 PM
Let’s see how this actually works. The Pandora Papers tell you many politicians, public figures, celebrities, famous people, billionaires are incredibly greedy and happy to tie up money in tax havens. Even today BoJo scoffed off claims at Tories and mentioned Blair instead.
Bunch of crooks leaving trillions that could change the course of history.
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October 8, 2021 at 4:42 PM
Unfortunate to see the great Sachin Tendulkar’s name crop up there.
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October 8, 2021 at 5:31 PM
Sachin’s daughter is also being brought into the drugs case. Maybe then you will take more interest about witch hunts!
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October 8, 2021 at 6:02 PM
None of my concern even if she is (nothing on her yet anyways).
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October 8, 2021 at 5:41 PM
There are not many people from US in the list; the reason some commentators are attributing is for the low tax rate and schemes for tax avoidance for rich that there is no incentive to do illegal way.
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October 9, 2021 at 1:09 AM
There are also rumors that the CIA leaked the Pandora Papers; Putin, Imran Khan, Xi they don’t like a lot of these people.
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October 9, 2021 at 3:29 AM
US tax avoidance is different. I gave an example on Amazon last week. The big techs are hiding taxable profits into investments.
I think I gave a real life example. Amazon paid 2% tax in UK compared to gross revenues. I pay 40% just as an individual. Here, something is clearly wrong. It is the main reason why this minimum global tax rate is arriving. Likes of Bezos, Tusk maybe paying fair share in US as individuals and maybe even their companies too but outside of their country the numbers don’t add up.
I use to work in a huge US company. Every year sub part f was a big deal. I never understood the concept. It was all dodgy stuff. How dodgy? Sometimes the pre tax profit was peanuts. Then this sub part F arrives and income shot up. Then tax was not high. I don’t know ins and outs of links. But this is what 2005-13 was like!
https://americansfortaxfairness.org/issues/tax-extenders/39-national-organizations-objecting-to-corporate-tax-extenders-legislation/general-electrics-special-tax-loophole-lets-company-dodge-billions-in-taxes/
There are some industries that seem to do this way better. Retail for sure. Like the big supermarkets. They definitely seem to pay better share of taxes. The big techs not so much.
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October 9, 2021 at 3:40 AM
There should be no loopholes and a zero tolerance on this kind of stuff. It literally rages me. Especially the super billionaires. I respect people who are stingy way more. Because they are cutting costs. People who just avoid tax with some funky offshore accounts are just morally corrupt.
It’s such an easy problem to fix. Just ban offshore accounts. Or if you want to use one tax them for using one.
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October 8, 2021 at 5:59 PM
Wish everyone a happy Dushera at satyamshot.
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October 8, 2021 at 8:32 PM
BOND!! Booked IMAX tickets for Sunday. First movie in cinemas post pandemic. Hope it is worth! 🙂
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October 8, 2021 at 10:18 PM
excited for you. Still Waiting for my turn this year. My last theatrical experience was an year ago. 😞
Hopefully Sooryavanshi will be the one.
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October 8, 2021 at 10:10 PM
I have been asking everyone from Day 1 – What is the distribution price of Bell Bottoms? No respomse but all gyaan from others.
@ Marcus and Jayshah- Why are you applying your biased verdict on movies without keeping distribution cost in mind. My source is internal. I am still looking for a reliable publicly available source.
I thought the way Marcus was creating brouhaha as usual, he might have numbers with him. Seems he was all gas as always.
Give me the numbers mate. Elese go the golden way, silence. Noises are not acceptable by me.
If no numbers are available then to each your own. Why are you pointing fingers at me when you are depleted of numericals yourself?
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October 8, 2021 at 10:15 PM
THE NAVEEN STANDARD of box office classification for every theatrical release.
If the Distributor’s cost is X
Then a movie is a HIT if nett collection = 2X
Superhit if nett > 2.5X or a huge grosser
Blockbuster if nett > 3X or a huge grosser
This has Harvard level accpetance. Taran Adarsh follows this. Komal / Shivaay use the same metrics but has a classification less. Thats fine. BOI has found to have used it mostly for Khan movies but not for others like Amitabh or Akshay films. But they use it too.
Anyone not using like Marcus etc and claiming box office verdict on theatrical release is same as a television without the screen. Just a Dubba …
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October 9, 2021 at 1:32 AM
Akshay has 8 movies in the next 14 months!! I feel like Atrangi Re turned out bad; don’t see why Netflix, if not this reason.
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October 9, 2021 at 4:06 AM
Netflix valuated Atrangi re on being Hindi (die to Akki) + Tamil (due to Dhanush). The offer price is more for the cost of the film. Hence the decision.
BTW, an honest statement by Salman Khan –
https://twitter.com/KhiladiGroup1/status/1446476544495341568?t=bzrjBlXTGgMqbR7DYhKGEw&s=19
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October 9, 2021 at 1:55 AM
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October 9, 2021 at 1:56 AM
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October 9, 2021 at 2:02 AM
If only the lawyers had so much PASSION for srk’s son as the fanatic here! LOL
Parenting is a big deal for Indian middle class. srk has fallen in the eyes of that segment. Hope Pathan survives this.
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October 9, 2021 at 2:09 AM
Master is going over the top; but for the Indian middle class, divorce is also a big deal. Indian audience don’t give a fuck about morality.
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October 9, 2021 at 4:01 AM
In that case, Abhishek films must have been blockbusters and Salman’s films must have been big flops.
Indian middleclass have also split.
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October 9, 2021 at 3:52 AM
Amitabh Bachchan contemplates pulling out of brand deal he is unsure of
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October 9, 2021 at 3:58 AM
Watched Bhramam on prime as I almost forgot Andhadhun. Though I am familiar with the twists and turns and I enjoyed it as the actors are competent and I usually like malayalayee actors.
I just enjoyed the drama once again. They replaced rabbit with wild boar. Prithviraj was good and so were others. But telugu version was meh from the beginning for me.
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October 9, 2021 at 4:03 AM
Akshay Kumar, Aamir Khan, Shraddha Kapoor: Stars who keep away from Bollywood parties
Milana Rao | TIMESOFINDIA.COM | Last updated on -Oct 9, 2021, 09:00 ISTShare fbsharetwsharepinshareComments (0)
01/6Akshay Kumar, Aamir Khan, Shraddha Kapoor: Stars who keep away from Bollywood parties
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/hindi/bollywood/news/akshay-kumar-aamir-khan-shraddha-kapoor-stars-who-keep-away-from-bollywood-parties/photostory/86869793.cms
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October 9, 2021 at 4:05 AM
No Movement On Sooryavanshi Yet
Saturday 09 October 2021 13.00 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
The release date of Sooryavasnhi was announced a few weeks back but there has been no movement so far as far as a trailer goes or even a small teaser and there is no sight of promotion. This is because the Maharashtra government has not given SOP’s and guidelines to cinemas yet. The trailer will only come when Maharashtra government gives the operating procedures to exhibitors as that is the actual green light of cinemas actually being allowed to open.
There is four weeks left till the release date and hopefully the mandate from the government comes in the next few days or at least in the next week as this will allow Sooryavanshi to have a three week campaign. If nothing comes by next week then the promotion of the film is likely to suffer. In a normal situation a limited promotion campaign would hardly matter for a film like Sooryavanshi but the difference here is that this will be actually be the restart of Hindi cinema and this will have to communicated to the audience across the country. Bell Bottom did lack in this communiaction as digital promotion may look huge but does not actually reach the ground level as the industry tends to think.
The release dates have been announced of so many films but at the moment a film is seen to be coming only when the trailer comes with a date. Here the trailer is being held up until they are 100% sure that Maharashtra theatres will open up as planned.
The exhibitors cannot plan much either till they get the guidelines. There were many teething problems with the first release be it Puaada in Punjab or Bell Bottom in rest of the circuits and many cinemas could not release on the first day with many issues including settlements with landlords. If you intend to open then these things should be done before but here many agreed settlements post the release of the films as they saw business was up and running again.
This should be avoided in Maharashtra as if your cinema is going to reopen then you want to be ready for Sooryavanshi on Diwali as there is no better time to start but the this delay of not knowing the film is 100% certain to come on Diwali means less time. The makers on their part gave a six week notice with an intention to release but intention does not mean an actual release today and we are down to four weeks and it will be three weeks next Friday. Basically the longer it takes for the trailer to come will mean less cinemas ready to release in Maharashtra. It will be like Bell Bottom and Puaada in Punjab with cinemas being added post the first day.
A lot of this could have been avoided if the guidelines had already come but now its going to be a race against time for many cinemas as real negotiations with landlords will only start when the trailer is there of Sooryavanshi.
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October 9, 2021 at 4:16 AM
This is quite pathetic and a joke. What a farce! People are trying to release films in good faith but some poxy bureaucratic step isn’t done.
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October 9, 2021 at 11:33 AM
The under secretary might put forward his recommendations to the joint secretary who in turn would contact the cabinet secretary for approval from CM Thackrey who in turn needs his share of bribes.
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October 9, 2021 at 4:15 AM
Prabhas, Kriti Sanon and Saif Ali Khan starrer ‘Adipurush’ has been in the headlines ever since it was announced. The much-anticipated film is based on the epic ‘Ramayan’ starring Saif as Lankesh and Prabhas as Adipurush.
Now, after months of shooting, Saif has wrapped up his portions as Lankesh. To mark the wrap-up of Saif’s portion, a small celebration was held on the sets of the film while director Om Raut joined the actor.
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October 9, 2021 at 4:35 AM
Nitesh Tiwary (Dangal, Chhichhore) is all set to direct a new version of the Ramayan.
To be produced by Madhu Mantena, the three-film trilogy will be made at a whopping cost of Rs 750 crores (Rs 7.5 billion)!
According to a source in the know, both Hrithik Roshan and Ranbir Kapoor, who will play Ravan and Lord Ram respectively, will be paid Rs 75 crores (Rs 750 million) each.
“The rest of the budget will go into making the kind of epic that the Ramayan has never been treated to before,” the source inform Subhash K Jha.
While Lord Ram and Ravan have been cast, Sita is yet to be found for Mantena’s ambitious project.
Stories of Kareena Kapoor Khan being approached to play Sita were untrue, insists the source. “Kareena for all her talent doesn’t suit the part at all,” says the source.
Kareena’s husband Saif Ali Khan has been cast as Ravan in another project based on the Ramayan, Adipurush, which is being directed by Om Raut.
Rediff.com » Movies » 75 cr for Ranbir, Hrithik for Ram, Ravan
75 cr for Ranbir, Hrithik for Ram, Ravan
By SUBHASH K JHA
Why not Aliya Bhatt as Sita?
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October 9, 2021 at 4:47 AM
This movies release date will probably be in the next century.
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October 10, 2021 at 6:17 AM
Its supposedly going on floors in end of 2022. Will probably target a release in 2024.
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October 9, 2021 at 4:38 AM
Another wrap up.
Akshay Kumar and Rakul Preet Singh celebrate as they wrap up ‘production 41’ tentatively titled Cinderella
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October 9, 2021 at 4:43 AM
Akshay should book 2 full years only for his films!
By that time, he will finish another 20 movies and can book 2 more years!
One man industry!
If others want to shine, they should either produce akshay movies or act in them as side characters!
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October 9, 2021 at 11:51 AM
Akshay Kumar’s Sooryavanshi not releasing on Diwali despite theatres opening from Oct 15: report
Akshay Kumar and Katrina Kaif-starrer Sooryavanshi is not releasing on Diwali despite government giving a go-ahead for cinemas to open. One of the producers of the film, Reliance Entertainment has said they will first wait and watch audience’s response, before deciding on its release.
https://www.hindustantimes.com/bollywood/akshay-kumar-s-sooryavanshi-not-releasing-on-diwali-despite-theatres-opening-from-oct-15-report/story-zcfluugtK7qXNFmKjmC1gL.html
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October 9, 2021 at 1:48 PM
This is sad… If it delays more, better release on Doordarshan!
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October 9, 2021 at 2:47 PM
Actually it has now become a joke!
I posted some time back that rohit shetty may develop cold feet and dont want to become a lab example while others are watching smugly. Thalaivi can re release in Maharashtra and also Chehre during Diwali period. Both have nothing to lose.
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October 10, 2021 at 4:22 AM
Lol, this is exactly what i have been saying. BB has underperformed and is a theatrical flop. Its collections is hardly encouraging for any biggie to release anytime soon. So much for the wise cracks in this forum who insists BB has done well.
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October 10, 2021 at 5:16 AM
Now or never. Get it over with before it becomes a retro legacy.
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October 10, 2021 at 5:59 AM
I dont think Sooryavanshi will become stale if it releases next year. Look at Bond. It got postponed by a year and half but its still doing well.
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October 10, 2021 at 6:31 AM
Sh(i)tty’s cop universe is a Bhojpuri Bond to begin with 😜
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October 9, 2021 at 12:02 PM
Coal shortage, power crisis is looming ahead for Delhi, Punjab and some other states.
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October 10, 2021 at 3:57 AM
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October 10, 2021 at 3:59 AM
R Balki is currently gearing up for his next directorial which is a psychological thriller. The film boasts of an ensemble cast including Dulquer Salmaan, Sunny Deol, Pooja Bhatt, and Shreya Dhanwanthary. Today, on the occasion of Guru Dutt’s death anniversary, the makers unveiled the title and motion poster of the film.
https://www.bollywoodhungama.com/news/bollywood/r-balkis-next-starring-dulquer-salmaan-sunny-deol-pooja-bhatt-shreya-dhanwanthary-titled-chup-akshay-kumar-unveils-motion-poster/
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October 10, 2021 at 6:43 AM
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October 10, 2021 at 7:58 AM
My review of No Time To Die is up!
My longest review till date but I’ve tried to summarize the entire Craig era in one go.
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October 10, 2021 at 3:12 PM
Watched a old film Apradh starring Feroze Khan. Good old fashioned action, good music, songs and romance. A stylish film for those times. Even now it looks quite stylish and elegant.
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October 10, 2021 at 7:46 PM
Critically acclaimed film actress files a complaint against a Twitter user and a YouTube influencer for outraging her modesty
According a tweet by ANI, “A film actress filed a complaint alleging that a Twitter user & YouTube influencer has been circulating some messages on social media platforms with the intention of outraging her modesty and some hashtags have also been circulated regarding some movie scenes”
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/hindi/bollywood/news/critically-acclaimed-film-actress-files-a-complaint-against-a-twitter-user-and-a-youtube-influencer-for-outraging-her-modesty/articleshow/86917961.cms
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October 10, 2021 at 9:51 PM
Thumbs up to Bollywood, a nice video.
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October 10, 2021 at 9:55 PM
Those asking YASMIN kidawi and a tweet liked by Ravish Kumar, Barlha Ditt etc on why SRK or Bhatt is targeted don’t ask why Sanjay Dutt or Rhea was targeted because they were hindus? There is an attempt to paint it on religious lines. Yes, there would be some noise painting it religious but we now know to mute them.
Watch the video which is in complete contrast to the line of thoughts from Yasmin who ironically choose to use it for her line of thinking. While video talks about bollywood devoid of religious preferences, the twitteratti promotes it.
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October 10, 2021 at 10:21 PM
Sanjay Dutt had a solid case while Rhea had none except a clamour for her arrest.
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October 11, 2021 at 1:49 AM
Any super star’s son, irrespective of religion, if caught using drugs would get same attention in India. Sanjay dutt got same attention, ofcourse he was a superstar himself then. Media here is anyway oriented towards cacophony since independence. Now with social its more.
Of course i am totally with the victim here and supporting SRK and family here. Most of bollyword are in support. I liked Hrithik’s heartfelt message on one hand while on the other hand also noted Kangana’s measured critic of calling it a mistake and not glorify drugs and drug addicts.
There is a twist by some media and social media public in doing extreme commentary because of religion. They seems to be a tiny set not worth mentioning.
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October 11, 2021 at 1:54 AM
Yes, both the cases are different. Not comparing the nature of the case but just contesting the religious angle as the reason for extra rigour on Aaryan or Sanjay or Rhea or Salman earlier. Glamour and crime sells a lot.
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October 10, 2021 at 10:47 PM
Sanjay Dutt’s mother was a Muslim, and his father’s constituency had Muslims affected by the 90s Bombay riots. It was the father’s attempts to get justice for these Muslims (mind you, the father as a congressman did a padayatra for Punjab) that got him threats from the Shiv Sena, which Sanju said made him buy the guns.
Rhea was a patsy.
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October 11, 2021 at 1:51 AM
That’s was few say, that sanjay faced bigger ordeal because his mom was a muslim etc. Dont think this is true at all.
Putting religious angle in everything is not correct.
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October 11, 2021 at 8:27 AM
Sorry but there are no excuses for keeping a handful of AK 56s in your own backyard directly obtained from dreaded gangs under the garb of “self protection”.
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October 10, 2021 at 11:51 PM
https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2021/10/10/box-office-no-time-to-die-starring-daniel-craig-as-james-bond-opens-with-soft-56m-domestic-debut-but-tops-300m-worldwide/?sh=4ad836802c0b
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October 11, 2021 at 1:29 AM
Salman Khan starrer Antim – The Final Truth to clash with John Abraham’s Satyameva Jayate 2 on November 26
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October 11, 2021 at 1:40 AM
It would be a fun clash to witness.
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October 11, 2021 at 2:46 AM
Watched No Time to Die. First hour and half felt little long but overall pretty coherent screenplay and ending was great which elevated the movie. Nice ending for Craig and one of best send off ever written for an actor playing Bond and this is unique in every sense! Will age nicely as well!
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October 11, 2021 at 5:01 AM
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October 11, 2021 at 9:41 AM
“Isme Thrill hai. Romance Hai. Emotion Hai. Suspense Hai !!!”
Kaash lage haath ek actor bhi dal dete 🙂
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October 11, 2021 at 9:58 AM
This guy’s career saw a fillip after his dad got the insurance money. Since last few years, he has got more movies than any other star of his age. He is signing more films than Akshay Kumar. Suddenly from a flop star, post demise if her step mom in mysterious circumstances in Dubai, its raining movies for him, his step sister Jhanavi etc. Clearly the money recevied are going into production.
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October 11, 2021 at 10:39 AM
Boney Kapoor is producing films with Arjun Kapoor?
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October 11, 2021 at 10:58 AM
Amusing that you actually follow their careers 😉
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October 11, 2021 at 5:48 PM
Hehe, only from Satyamshot. Else wont have a clue.
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October 11, 2021 at 8:33 AM
https://www.hindustantimes.com/entertainment/bollywood/when-shah-rukh-khan-admitted-he-restrains-himself-from-talking-about-issues-in-public-feels-like-venting-bhadaas-101633949577541.html
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October 11, 2021 at 9:32 AM
@munna if possible could you please pull up on top Utkal’s piece on Amitabh for today? Thanks.
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October 11, 2021 at 12:45 PM
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/india/maharashtra-bandh-best-bus-services-shut-in-mumbai-after-stone-pelting/articleshow/86930641.cms
Amusing to see the Uddhav Thackrey led Shiv Sena calling for a bandh in a state which has already been in permanent lockdown for over 19 months. Bunch of fringe goons imposing closure on their own citizens and vandalizing their own public property, a perfect lesson for a few fools on this forum who brand Yogi’s government in under developed UP as jungle raj!
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October 11, 2021 at 5:47 PM
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October 11, 2021 at 5:56 PM
Loved this one! Anyone who’s against social media is my friend!!!
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October 11, 2021 at 6:08 PM
I am not against social media but use this as standard to control narrative is problematic; Most of the times the reactions on these platforms are knee-jerk and and not well formed. Of course people use it for propaganda (imposition of views) as well. It is like companies doing stuff on quarter to quarter basis (short term) than what is good for company in long run. People do all kind of mistakes to meet quarter estimates so that they get their bonuses.
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October 11, 2021 at 10:16 PM
Sooryavanshi on Diwali after all
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October 11, 2021 at 10:59 PM
Now the ball is in the audience court!
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October 12, 2021 at 8:57 AM
Agree, those 50% occupancy better be at least 90% occupied.
All other states 100% opened?
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October 12, 2021 at 4:26 AM
100% reopening for the vaccinated alone is a better option (like Bangalore).
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October 12, 2021 at 5:54 AM
MH cinemas opening is great news! Looking forward to 12 real biggies in the next 9 months (starting from Nov 2021 to July 2022) as per current release schedule:
1. Sooryavanshi
2. Antim
3. 83
4. Jersey
5. RRR
6. Prithviraj
7. LSC
8. Jayeshbhai Jordaar
9. Bachchan Pandey
10. Shamsheera
11. Mayday
12. Maidaan
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October 12, 2021 at 6:59 PM
Bad news for big budget front loaded entertainers if they do not have good WoM.
Also bad news if 2 big budget movie clashes.
Moreover, a message to audience that all is still not well. They would think, why to go if there is a risk?
100% makes it risk free in terms of perception.
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October 12, 2021 at 7:00 PM
however better to start half heartedly than no start.
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October 12, 2021 at 12:50 AM
AKSHAY WRAPS UP ‘RAKSHA BANDHAN’ SHOOT… #AkshayKumar and director #AanandLRai have wrapped up the shoot of #RakshaBandhan in #NewDelhi… Costars #BhumiPednekar… 11 Aug 2022 release. #IndependenceDay weekend
taran adarsh
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October 12, 2021 at 9:01 PM
Raksha Bandhan and Sooraj Barjatya’s next with Big B are two family social drama in 2022 i am looking forward to.
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October 12, 2021 at 1:41 AM
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October 12, 2021 at 6:15 AM
Mutliplexes want the gap between a film’s release in theatres and on OTT to be doubled from 4 to 8 weeks.
https://www.rediff.com/movies/report/multiplexess-coming-clash-with-ott/20211012.htm
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October 12, 2021 at 6:18 AM
AMAZING Movies Coming Up in 2022
https://www.rediff.com/movies/report/amazing-movies-coming-up-in-2022/20210929.htm
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October 12, 2021 at 7:57 AM
Looking good. Straight off Hrishikesh Mukherjee’s plot
Anyone else see the similarities between Golmaal (Old) and this one?
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October 12, 2021 at 9:06 PM
Would be good fun. Paresh Rawal in a role which is tailor made. This looked more like a Priyadarshan classic comedy to me.
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October 12, 2021 at 10:25 AM
https://twitter.com/BeingSalmanKhan/status/1447917568094871566?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
Might not be a disaster.
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October 12, 2021 at 3:37 PM
“…over the years having done many films Race3,Loveyatri, Bharat, D3,Radhe & now Antim I am confident… ”
“…THIS WILL FLOP as the above movies”
Lol, who writes a list of flop movies just before new movie’s first look?
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October 12, 2021 at 12:12 PM
I am watching Shiddhat on hotstar. Quite a lovestory. Radhika Madan is bright and Sunny Kaushal is the sunny side of Vicky Kaushal. About illegal immigrants and their struggles.
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October 12, 2021 at 12:44 PM
Let us know how the whole film is once you’re done.
I have Thalaivi, bell bottom lined up for this weekend.
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October 12, 2021 at 1:38 PM
I sort of liked it. Cant say more because it will spoil your viewing if you decide to watch it. Lots of DDLJ references.
Shiddhat is a lovestory which will tug at your hearts.
Sunny Kaushal is much more expressive than his more famous brother Vicky Kaushal.
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October 12, 2021 at 1:50 PM
Veteran Tamil Actor Srikanth Dies At 82. Rajinikanth Pays Tribute
Veteran Tamil actor Srikanth died at the age of 82 in Chennai on Tuesday, news agency PTI reported. Superstar Rajinikanth, who had shared screen space with Srikanth in a few films, paid tribute to the late actor on Twitter on Tuesday night. “I am deeply saddened by the death of my dear friend Srikanth. May his soul rest in peace,” Rajinikanth’s tweet in Tamil read. Srikanth had shared screen space with Rajinikanth in the films Bhairavi and Sadhurangam. Srikanth made his acting debut with the 1965 film Vennira Aadai with J Jayalalithaa. In a career spanning over 4 decades, he starred in several critically-acclaimed films. He famously starred in the 1974 super hit Thanga Pathakkam.
Besides Rajinikanth, Srikanth had co-starred with top Tamil stars such as Sivaji Ganesan, R Muthuraman, Sivakumar and Kamal Haasan, among others. Other than films, Srikanth had also been a part of a several stage plays. He had also featured in the television series titled Mangai, opposite KR Vijaya.
https://www.ndtv.com/entertainment/veteran-tamil-actor-srikanth-dies-at-82-rajinikanth-pays-tribute-2573452#pfrom=home-ndtv_topstories
In Thngapathakkam, he played Bachchan’s part (Shakti) While Sivaji Ganesan played DK’s part. This film came before Shakti in 1974.
Srikanth’s impressive filmography also included many of K Balachandar classics such as Bama Vijayam, Poova Thalaiya and Ethir Neechal, to name a few.
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October 12, 2021 at 3:33 PM
Looking at No Time To Die at the Indian Box Office, it seems that things are very depressed in the North right now.
It’s around 20 Crores and will definitely cross Shang Chi’s total and go beyond 25 crores, but traditionally Bond films have done very well in India — especially North India.
I know that regional films have done well but those are completely different markets with audiences still besotted with stars to a great extent. They operate on a different paradigm altogether.
Looking at NTTD and Shang Chi, Bell Bottom’s total doesn’t look bad, although it definitely incurred losses for its distributors. With Maharashtra not open, BB has been the best performer during India’s second Covid –19 wave. Trended decently as well.
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October 12, 2021 at 9:14 PM
The day FF9 trended was an alarming bell for all concerned.
Hindi movie belt is still spooked big time.
Pre pandemic, Bond movie was a 150 cr+ nett even on a non holiday release. Its business when rest of Maha is at 100% occupancy is testimony of our times and new reality.
Bell bottoms on a non holiday thursday release at a time when theatres were closed, night shows not allowed and 50% occupancy is a remarkable story.
Parameters of Theatrical hit classification has changed now due to upfront loading of OTT offer. Not sure why it took many others to not accept the new reality. Maybe a confirmation bias that i am trying to make Bell Bottoms look better. Not my fault. A workshop on how to remove confirmation bias is free on linkedin for Jayshah and Marcus. 😁📌
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October 12, 2021 at 10:22 PM
When did Bond even cross 75 crores, for you to make a 150 crore prediction?
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October 12, 2021 at 10:35 PM
Exactly. Even in pre-pandemic times NTTD wud be doing 75-80 cr at max in India. Same with Shang Chi.
Anyways, NTTd has doing softly in US and will probably end at 170M there, same range as Casino and Quantum. Even ww it will be in 600M range like Casino and Quantum. Given its 250M budget and the release delays, it will be a minor success at box office.
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October 12, 2021 at 11:12 PM
https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2021/10/12/box-office-no-time-to-die-nabs-7m-monday-for-62m-cume/?sh=9bfe8cd10066
But if No Time to Die can leg out to anywhere near $700 million with only a nominal Chinese boost, that will be a sign that the entire global box office is, relatively speaking, safe for preordained blockbusters.
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October 12, 2021 at 11:18 PM
Ya read that, but i think Scott is being plain optimistic here. 600-650M is where it will end imo.
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October 13, 2021 at 12:20 AM
Yes 150 cr was definitely not based on past performance.
Should have been more around 90-100cr.
But dont use this to deflect.. 20% of the market at the time on BB has probably become 25% now. Still a long way to go. With Maha opening 50%, we might see 40% of the market now.
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October 13, 2021 at 12:22 AM
I so wish T20 WC had been played in some of the safer cities in India. To boost the perception in terms of crowd participation for entertainment, nothing better than the biggest sport of the country.
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October 13, 2021 at 2:01 AM
Hahaha. Skyfall did 60Cr I think in India and naveen has taken this to 150Cr! What nonsense stuff as usual. And he talks deflection but he is a better liar than BoJo!
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October 13, 2021 at 2:16 AM
Looks like you like dodging the issue on picking on the loose end and not on the main topic. 😀
90- 100 Cr is what i have the estimate for Bond movie at pre pandemic based on past data. But i do think that this would have made 150 cr based on the momentum and WoM. But nonetheless if only past data is to consider then 90 Cr min is what it would have made. It would be fair.
Still with 90 Cr nett estimate, my analysis that current box office is at 20% to start with and now at 25% of pre pandemic level is bang on.
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October 13, 2021 at 12:31 AM
I think most trade analysts overestimated the potential when Bell Bottoms opened the theatres in most of the states in India. From 50 cr to 75 cr, it was based on theatrical capacity not taking into account the pandemic perception.
The 50% cap and no night shows actually dented the ability to come to theatre. Family audience were definitely not ready for it.
A holiday release might still have done some trick. But a non holiday thursday release of a niche but well made film like Bell Bottoms was more of a test run of a reasonable big film. I myself thought the market would be 50%. However all these were estimates.
What one realised was even to do 50% of pre pandemic level,
1. Maharashtra was needed,
2. night shows are essential
3. Occupancy is needed to be 100% esp on first 3-4 days
and
4. overall perception needs improvemement in terms of declining cases etc.
And unlike regional films, hindi film audience is in no waiting mode.
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October 13, 2021 at 12:37 AM
We should not undermine the pandemic shock india during second wave ompared to other countries.
Many of the commentary from others comparing market performance of other countries is definitely not correct.
There is also an element of aversion to bollywood. It can be short term and temporary. But i do know few people (maybe 5% of theatrical audience) who are dead against bollwood movies, thinking it to be root cause of all evil like drugs, nepotism, linked to underworld, etc. and have boycotted it forever.
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October 13, 2021 at 1:58 AM
What Bond movie has made these collections in India? Even your FF8 numbers were a LIE. Your first week collections were lifetime! Blatant lies.
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October 13, 2021 at 2:21 AM
My FF8 figure was taking the first week nett comparison only. I took it from BOI. Check this.
https://boxofficeindia.com/report-details.php?articleid=5291
Fast & Furious 8 grossed almost 87 crore nett while Fast & Furious 7 grossed almost 98 crore nett.
So FF9 collected only 20% of FF8, i was still right.
You tried to spin it. You are biased JS. Sorry…you have lost the punch after TOH.
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October 13, 2021 at 12:40 AM
LOL, Naveen, stop making excuses for Sooryavanshi from now itself with your ridiculous numbers. The fact is it will need at least 100 cr nett for recovery, i.e., Average status at box office. For that it will need to get footfalls in theaters this Diwali. Else it will be a theatrical FLOP like BB.
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October 13, 2021 at 2:04 AM
LOL. Already even before a trailer is released. Is this what Naveen is doing? How desperate.
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October 13, 2021 at 2:23 AM
Aaka fans and its chief are losing it. 😀
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October 13, 2021 at 2:23 AM
Again a foolish statement Marcus – “The fact is it will need at least 100 cr nett for recovery, i.e., Average status at box office”
Are you saying distributor’s cost is 50 Cr?
What is the distributor’s cost? Without it, no substance hold.
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October 13, 2021 at 2:38 AM
No No dear, if you can claim BB was sold for 10 cr then no surprise if you claim Sooryavanshi was sold for 15 cr to distributors. This time we will ignore producer losses then?
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October 13, 2021 at 2:50 AM
Lol so you dont know. Pls dont argue on my numbers then. You can look intelligent that way.😂😂
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October 13, 2021 at 3:04 AM
What I said is that DP wont be any less than 50 cr for such a big film. Problem is you have no clue abt box office numbers and make ridiculous and laughing stock of comments and claims. Give it a rest. Its ok to say that you have no idea.
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October 13, 2021 at 2:46 AM
On a serious note, Rohit Shetty has always been hit and miss if he isn’t borrowing from other film plots. Except Chennai Express which itself was a riff on DDLJ, and Golmaal Again, his original films, especially like Zameen and Singham 2 never worked. Hopefully he’s remixing not only Tip Tip Barsa Paani here.
The bigger issue is also that Singham 3 and Simmba 2 rest on Sooryavanshi now. An underperformance and the Cop Universe reaches entropy.
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October 13, 2021 at 2:52 AM
yes true. He might have borrowed bits and pieces again, we never know once we see.
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October 13, 2021 at 2:51 AM
Lol so you dont know. Pls dont argue on my numbers then. You can look intelligent that way.😂😂
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October 13, 2021 at 3:38 AM
No second trailer, no newspaper advertisement – Rohit Shetty adopts a novel strategy for Sooryavanshi; campaign to begin post October 15
Through the 18 day campaign, he will unveil 3 songs, and expects the buzz to touch the roof with them, as all 3 are expected to be chartbusters. He is banking big on ‘Aila Re Aila’, which features the 3 cops, Singham (Ajay Devgn), Simmba (Ranveer Singh) and Sooryavanshi (Akshay Kumar).”
https://www.bollywoodhungama.com/news/bollywood/scoop-no-second-trailer-no-newspaper-advertisement-rohit-shetty-adopts-novel-strategy-sooryavanshi-campaign-begin-post-october-15/
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October 13, 2021 at 4:02 AM
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October 13, 2021 at 9:44 AM
Allu Arjun’s Ala vaikantapuram remake. This is great opportunity for Kartik to shine!
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October 13, 2021 at 11:22 AM
Sanjana had recommended this movie that i watch few months back. Very good masala film. Not sure if karthik will be able to carry it as it needs the lead to look little mature.
Kathik looks goofy, probably my bias based on most movies he has done. I have like a set goofy image of him.
This would have been a great film for papa roshan to make with Hrithik.
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October 13, 2021 at 4:04 AM
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October 13, 2021 at 5:46 AM
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October 13, 2021 at 6:03 AM
Naveen please get your numbers correct.
Especially when you impose a Hollywood model on Bollywood movies.
Bollywood Hungama
FF7 2015 = 108Cr
FF8 2017 = 86Cr
FF hobbs and Shaw 2019 = 76Cr
FF9 2021 = 14Cr
Skyfall = 45Cr (from BOI and Koimoi)
Spectre = 37Cr (from Bollywood Hungama)
The Bond series is not a big deal in India. It’s half the money of FF at most.
Note FF9 released well before in many places before coming to India.
Ff7 released in India on 2/4/15, next day in US
Ff8 released on 12/04/17 in both US and India.
Hobbs and Shaw released 1/08/19 in US and 2/08/19 in India
Ff9 25/06/21 in US vs 2/09/21 in India.
Obviously of all FF releases in a time when watching from home is more convenient it was hit massively on piracy in India. So using FF9 as any basis is futile.
No Time To Die is performing par expectations.
It’s below Spectre but not way off – that is without maharashtra.
Now look at Gold.
BOI and BH total is 102Cr and 105Cr respectively. Minus their Mumbai territory totals you get 69Cr and 75Cr.
So you’ve eliminated Mumbai which is the main difference between back then and now.
Now you can adjust down by 50% (to account for 50% reduction in screens etc.) getting you to 35-38Cr for like for like release thereabouts.
Now knock off a few crores for fear in current periods but add a couple of crores for pent up demand. You more or less get to Bell Bottom’s total. Yes Bell Bottom is pretty much Gold’s equivalent today.
Comparing ff9 to previous ff’s is not right. The conditions of release dates is a massive curve ball.
And in any case were the 50% capacity restrictions going to housefull? No!
Bell Bottom has behaved like an pre multiplex era release where there was plenty of release time and period to accumulate collections. It’s still running today! This is what films use to do.
The difference between Gold and Bell Bottom is how they made they collections. Gold was front loaded. 70Cr opening weekend and 87Cr first week and lifetime of 105Cr. This is the pattern of a major star release on a holiday that simply didn’t interest audiences after week 2. Heck the film at 101Cr by end of week 2 and it finishes at 105Cr! That’s awful trending.
Bell Bottom’s trends have been aided by the restrictions and conditions. Akshay knew very well what he was saying when 30Cr today is worth 100Cr pre covid.
Stop trying to fool everyone here with this nonsense Hollywood model vs Bollywood model.
Z laid a perfect example. If there were 100 seats and now only 50 seats. And only 15 people turn up on opening. It is still a 15% opening or 30% whichever way you look at it. It’s poor.
The opening was poor. The trend ok. Doesn’t make it a hit.
Find me a single source calling Bell Bottom a hit film. That is your challenge today.
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October 13, 2021 at 6:17 AM
Bond is never that big in India. NTTD wud have done 70-75 cr nett in pre-pandemic times. The market is performing at one third without MH, as we saw with BB. That will improve with MH opening.
IF Sooryavanshi were to do 200 cr in pre-pandemic times, it will do around 85 cr in current market scenario. But that wont be a Hit total, but barely recovery due to high budget and costs associated.
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October 13, 2021 at 6:55 AM
In the best case scenario it may do 100 cr nett total, but even then it will be just Average at BO.
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October 13, 2021 at 6:56 AM
It was supposed to be a 300 crore film; here it should be 125 crore.
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October 13, 2021 at 7:01 AM
If it does 125 cr i will be willing to call it a minor hit based on the economics.
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October 13, 2021 at 7:17 AM
Frankly, if LSC was releasing this Diwali with 2 open weeks, then I wud be expecting 150 cr nett total.
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October 13, 2021 at 3:26 PM
Bond used to be the only game in town a few decades ago! The only Hollywood films that outgrossed Bond were the Jurassic Park movies or superhero movies.
The situation did change from 2015 onwards when even the Fast and Furious franchise and Mission Impossible did much better than Spectre.
Of course, Avengers: Endgame was a complete gamechanger and turned the whole tide in terms of Hollywood moves and their performance at the Indian BO but Bond still remains a marquee draw.
The fact that it’s going to cross Shang Chi and run Bell Bottom close, in India, is proof of the brand’s potency.
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October 13, 2021 at 10:15 PM
NTTD may be a good film (haven’t watched it yet), but its not exactly shaking up the BO. Its ww total will be around 650M. Now consider its 250M budget, interests incurred due to delays, extensive marketing, etc and that total is underwhelming. It will be a minor success overall, not a bonafide blockbuster.
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October 13, 2021 at 6:26 AM
Now this is Jay shah. Will revert soon. a bit late here for me.
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October 13, 2021 at 8:05 AM
Just a quick one …. Bell Bottoms is a BLOCKBUSTER HIT by Komal
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October 13, 2021 at 8:30 AM
Already posted
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October 13, 2021 at 8:41 AM
He’s referring to Bell Bottom on Prime-“BLOCKBUSTER HIT”
Even Zero was No. 1 on Google Play, beating a Star Is Born.
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October 13, 2021 at 8:50 AM
People waited for Prime release therefore theatrical business suffered.
This 4 week or 8 week period may work in long term but not for a film to regalvanise the industry. You need a film to hit it out the park with favourable conditions. As the cards are firmly stacked against cinemas.
Not safe for everyone, overpriced, Bollywood is devoid of creativity, the big stars are aging…it’s a bloated industry and can’t recover with just pure luck. A proper release with surgically precisioned marketing and a great release date is needed.
The lack of noise from Sooryavanshi is not good IMO. Get the promotions out and excite people.
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October 13, 2021 at 10:25 AM
Entertainment habits have changed for audience with the rise of OTT during pandemic. Its going to be difficult to get audience back to theaters imo.
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October 13, 2021 at 12:53 PM
So called change in entertainment habits doesn’t seem to apply to any industry apart from Bollywood. For the rest the big screen is still the rightful king.
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October 13, 2021 at 3:24 PM
Wonder why world is spending billions on OTT shows/movies.
The Squid Game is being talked about more than a Bond film as far as the whole world is concerned.
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October 13, 2021 at 3:57 PM
These are fads though which come and go. The Sopranos was a sensation on OTT but its prequel has just released in theatres and has bombed quite spectacularly!
I would like OTT to win over cinema (because of convenience) but realistically, they are going to co-exist. The big-budget VFX-driven blockbusters will first release in theatres and if people want to watch them, they will have to take a trip to the local theatre.
But the dynamic is bound to change — people will not accept bad actors and unless there is clear hype, they will not run to theatres to catch a movie.
And by hype, I mean either great word of mouth or megabucks spent on advertisement. I think reviews will matter more from now on.
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October 13, 2021 at 3:55 PM
“The Squid Game is being talked about more than a Bond film as far as the whole world is concerned.” – No proof of that other than twitter hashtags. Either ways, television has always been the primary source of mass entertainment since 4 decades. NTTD is a certified big screen Blockbuster!
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October 13, 2021 at 4:51 PM
@Saket, good points and that’s what i’m trying to say.
This concept or thought of that people are dying for big screen and it’s the only way is foolish.
Audience has moved on and OTT is not same as Doordarsahn of the 80s. The library is so huge on OTT and one gets to see movies from around the world which they wouldn’t get to see in theatre anyway. And add some fantastic TV shows like money heist, squid game, etc. There’s a huge library on OTT at ones finger tip.
Of course the big screen will be always be there but more and more it will be for event film like Avataar or big budget films or during holidays. Some small films may click but in general, you’ll start seeing that audience is not going to spend too much money on going to theatre.
India maybe different but in USA the Electronic companies made huge profit past 2 years where they sold lots of big screen TVs, home theatre system, etc. I mean most big quality items were on back orders.
I think you will start seeing some effects of this in future where people may decide to watch it at their house instead of dishing out loads of money to go to theatre.
Family of 5, maybe $40 between pizza, wings and soda. Grab the movie at Redbox for $1 or free if it’s on OTT you have subscription to. Movie and Dinner covered for under $50.
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October 13, 2021 at 5:06 PM
Last paragraph exactly. I’ve been shouting from rooftop that watching movies in theatre is far too expensive.
To watch NTTD for 4 people I shelled out £40 ($55). In fact that was after a discount…the actual prices would have been £55 ($75). Now throw in the ice cream someone kindly bought for us it’s another £20 ($30). A 5th person joined and paid for themselves.
I’m sorry but one movie experience has just cost a year’s subscription to Netflix.
I then learnt a different chain charges £5 per ticket vs the £10 I paid. Plus they have better seats!
Something will have to change. I’m not going to be wasting money when I’m not so precious about ‘cinematic experience’. Kids of tomorrow are screwed. They will be dealing with covid related debt, soaring prices…cinema is at the back of the queue as far as I’m concerned.
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October 13, 2021 at 5:13 PM
“Something will have to change. I’m not going to be wasting money when I’m not so precious about ‘cinematic experience’” – plenty of us actually precious about the ‘cinematic experience’ (as proved by NTTD, Shang Chi and Master) and thank goodness for that! OTT is just digital television which is eventually gonna replace satellite TV in the long run. Cinemas has nothing to do with OTT.
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October 13, 2021 at 5:18 PM
Look I expected a response from you. I am not knocking cinema. I am knocking it’s prices.
If you cut prices by 50% you never know….audience footfalls might go up from X to 1.5X – yes you will make less theatrical revenues on tickets but the extra 0.5X is more footfalls for food and drink. That 0.5X could be X. We don’t know. And overall you make more by halfing prices. This is basic playground economics.
Unfortunately if you cannot see this or the economics for a family of 4 you are either too rich to care or just not old enough yet!
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October 13, 2021 at 5:21 PM
Too many millionaires in India’s metros to pack houses for Sunday evening shows of NTTD I guess 😉 Anyways, ticket prices in India are very reasonable on weekdays but the exact opposite on weekends. Reduction would definitely help.
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October 13, 2021 at 5:38 PM
I think it’s “just not old enough yet!” 🙂
Just kidding but i think the audience will have mind set somewhat to what it was back in late 70s.
I remember during that time, movie was reserved for two Eid and Diwali. No other movies thru out the year unless it’s some special occasion.
Yes, economics has changed where people can afford to go watch or pay for their kids tickets more than what middle average family used to back in late 70s but still, choices will have to be made if it’s worth going or not. And the young generation is growing up on 5″ phone or 10″ tablet. Their eyes and mind are set/adjusted to it. They won’t crave to go to cinema like we did growing up. My daughters go to cinema few times a year but it’s more to hang out with friends and watch some silly horror movies versus going for a cinematic experience.
Some will show up for NTTD but not for wonder women. And you won’t have NTTD releasing every week. So let’s not talk and make judgement as if there’s a sort of event film like NTTD releasing every week.
Once again, i’m not against cinema but i’m wise enough to know that there’s this thing called OTT where there’s huge library of movies and shows available at finger tip which is convenient as well as cost effective.
Let me dumb this down little.
Having a dinner at nice 5 star restaurant is a great experience but how many of us do that daily/weekly?
Most likely none of us are, we save that for special occasion like birthdays, anniversaries, etc…
Cinema experience will become like that for many where they will go see some big event films like 3 times a year.
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October 13, 2021 at 3:21 PM
Great post, Jay
A few things I’d like to point out — the nett figures for Bond films are suspect. Boxofficemojo has the gross figures. 10.9 mill USD for Skyfall and 8.35 mill USD for Spectre.
Now multiply the gross figures with the average USD-to-INR price in 2012 and 2015 respectively: 53.4 and 64.13 respectively.
We get 58.2 crores gross for Skyfall and 53.55 crores respectively.
Now if we account for inflation and let’s assume the best case scenario for NTTD being as successful as Skyfall, the gross figure for NTTD becomes 100.7 crores.
Assuming the same nett to gross ratio as Skyfall, that amounts to around 78 crores in 2021.
Given that NTTD is going to end up close to 27 crores nett, the business is roughly 1/3rd of its potential maximum.
Applying the same extrapolation to Bell Bottom, its pre-covid total comes out to be around 100 crores.
So tl;dr — The nett we see right now is about 1/3rd of its pre-covid equivalent. And that’s the best case scenario!
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October 13, 2021 at 3:31 PM
Now with Maharashtra opening, the nett figures might approach 50% of pre-covid levels — again in the best case scenario.
But with releases stacked up, the final figures are bound to be affected as well.
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October 13, 2021 at 4:50 PM
I would never be surprised or shocked if Indian box office numbers were incorrect!
1/3rd the market seems about right.
But we won’t get an opportunity to verify this as MH opening up will create a different benchmark.
So Sooryavanshi will create a completely different set of metrics. Also it will be a festival release.
A lot rides on Sooryavanshi. All the later releases like 83, Jersey in December will be hoping for some kind of fireworks on Diwali at box office.
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October 13, 2021 at 6:20 AM
Pune: Theatres, multiplexes allowed to reopen from October 22
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October 13, 2021 at 6:27 AM
Tiger 3 to wrap up in Nov end for a release in 2022 last quarter. While Kabhi Eid Kabhi Diwali to start next year for Eid 2023 release.
https://www.pinkvilla.com/entertainment/exclusives/exclusive-salman-khan-wrap-tiger-3-november-end-godfather-and-kabhi-eid-kabhi-diwali-follow-916720
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October 13, 2021 at 6:54 AM
Deep diving further into his pursuits to make ‘Sooryavanshi’ into a big success, Rohit was yesterday spotted at PVR Juhu (the leading chain of multiplexes is the distributor of ‘Sooryavanshi’) shooting a few promos with himself in the camera. What he was exactly saying in the videos that were shot with high professional gadgets is not known but it is not rocket science to understand that it must be related to the big release of ‘Sooryavanshi’, which is slated for Diwali.
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October 13, 2021 at 6:57 AM
Rhea C post on her Insta
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October 13, 2021 at 7:11 AM
Watched Chehre. Good film but Rhea is such a terrible actress!
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