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Watched Cobra Kai (season 4) in 3 sitting. Enjoyed it a lot. Really liked the message it was delivering towards the end and your way is not the only way. Different approaches will work for different people under different situations.
Minnal Murali – My goodness, our own super hero movie and it was joy to watch from beginning to end. Low budget film but it looked right. Can’t wait for part 2. I hope they stay true to core of the story where there’s an emotional story which connects with you. The guy who plays Simbhu is very good, he is actually the movie.
Honsala Rakh – Cute little Panjabi film. I think this film had done very well in Canada. Seen plenty of movies on same theme but not a bad watch at all.
Chorri – It was okay. The message is disturbing if still true.
Pushpa: The Rise overtakes 83 at box office in Hindi; Earns 1 Cr more than the Ranveer Singh starrer…
The third Monday collection of Pushpa’s Hindi version is approximately Rs. 2.60 Cr while the second Monday collection of 83 is approximately Rs. 1.80 Cr. While Pushpa’s Hindi version showed a 25 percent fall vis-à-vis its third Friday, 83 fell by nearly 60 percent. The appreciation that 83 is receiving is not in synchronisation with its box office numbers.
Thanks all who asked me to stay back. I just cant disrespect your feelings. The reason for my absence is that some issues have cropped up and I am trying to deal with them.
I am happy that the situation is not that bad. Happy that 83 is getting to 100 crore. Haooy that Pushpa is making news. Telugu industry is not about Rajamouli and Prabhas only. Spidy crossed the important 200 crore mark.
In a way grateful to Jersey for makng 83 get some important bo collection. Disappointed that RRR and others have to wait.
About high ticket price for 83. Some still want to watch it inspite of high ticket prices for an event film which is good news. Nothing wrong in being a multiplex film and nothing wrong in being a singlescreen film.
Wishing you all a belated happy new year!
Agree, Jersey postponing helped all 3 films, more so for 83. If Jersey had released, i think 83 would have crashed bigtime past friday.
There were many good/great films in pat that didn’t do well at boxoffice for various reasons. 83 isn’t the first one and it will not be the last one to fall in this scenario.
Biggest benefit of Pushpa will go to KGF Chapter 2.
83 is not about ranveer or Kabir Khan. It is more about Kapil dev and his team and that victory. A respectable bo collection will be a tribute for them. That some still cherish them to this day.
The entire talk about 83 benefiting only due to festive season is complete nonsense. We’ve had films like Tees Maar Khan, Thugs of Hindostan, Zero among others which have tanked on the very first week despite adequate festive dates and no competition. The fact that 83 has held stable for over 10 days despite being in a 3 way tussle in itself is testimony to its appreciation (pointless getting into imdb ratings of 83 as against the likes of Zero, Dabang 3 and Thugs). The downslide on the second Monday has more to do with reduced capacity, night curfews and other stringent restrictions in major metropolitan cities (as opposed to smaller centers where Pushpa’s ruling the roost) and hence not only has 83 seen a slight fall but so has Spiderman. I hope I don’t receive a response from the usual suspects on this one. Got no interest in justifying something crystal clear to folks as blind as a bat.
PS : I paid more for War on the first weekend at a PVR multiplex in Bangalore than I paid for 83 on its first day of release. Got no idea where this high ticket price hysteria is being created from (except BOIs usual idiocy of course).
The news about Valimai is not confirmed as of yet, but it is quite likely to be postponed after TN government releases more details about the imminent lockdown tomorrow.
Zero’s day 12 was a New Year weekend, 83 isn’t. Zero did not release in the middle of a pandemic with a spike in cases, 83 did. Zero tanked overseas, 83 hasn’t. Never seen such pointless excuses being given to drag down a well made film.
Zero was a disaster, you want to compare 83 with a disaster movie?
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I will compare numbers correctly when it makes sense, not going to sit hear trying to justify 83 is success by comparing it to a movie that most consider disaster.
How does 83 New Year Day number looks against Dangal New Years day number? Which again is a dumb comparison cause the situation isn’t same. Comparing blockbuster movie to an average earner at best (which is what 83 is).
No one is disputing Pushpa’s box office run. The dispute is against the genuine above average decent run of a well made film like 83 (sans any semi naked item songs and overt melodrama associated with most Hindi-Telugu mass entertainers nowadays) being passed off as a disaster or a flop.
I responded to Shivaay’s post, as far as I recall. This was in response to a comment that said “all movies make money during the New Year”. **Edited**
And please, just by repeating a lie a million times doesn’t make that lie the truth.
If I HATED SRK, that would imply I cared about him. Cared enough to hate him. The truth is, I don’t really care about stars, in general. I do care about good actors though.
Go and check my reviews and see what rating I’ve given to films like Haseen Dilruba. And how much I’ve praised Vikrant Massey in it.
Yeah, with the biggest festival holiday of the year, without any competition from Hollywood or a massy entertainer from the South. And without curfews, restrictions and shutdowns.
Not to mention the biggest market in India working at 50% capacity. And markets not going into further restrictions with each passing day.
**Edited**. It’s just films. You or I are not going to have an extra slice of bread or lose a slice of bread regardless of how anyone films does..
I was perhaps like you over 15 years ago, during NG days **Edited** 🙂
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Go to my posts from 10 years ago, i have always said, why bring BOI in discussion, why give them publicity? they’re in business partially due to people here talking about it. BOI hasn’t changed at all, no impact to them at all…
I wouldn’t speak a word against BOI were it not for the fact that they are taken seriously. By people like Karan Johar and Anupama Chopra (Film Companion).
I’m not trying to fight for 83 ONLY. It’s a fight for films that are good in terms of content and are pulled down mercilessly by the likes of BOI.
That includes films like Dil Se and Kabhi Haan Kabhi Naa as well.
Agree, BOI should get called out but what is it accomplishing? NOTHING… Nothing at all…
They’re getting free publicity from people who talks about them constantly.
By they way, do you remember there was another boxoffice site which was anit-srk and pro-bachchan, i think it was called IBOS or somehting like that. what ever happened to that site?
BOI puts up questionable commentary but their number are pretty much same as all other sites.
IBOS used to deduct a core or two every week from srk film.
Pushpa likely to release in Amazon on 07th Jan. This deal was struck when RRR was still releasing. IMO makers should renegotiate for an extra 2 week theatrical run
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IT’S OFFICIAL: ‘RADHE SHYAM’ POSTPONED… #Jersey, #RRR, #Prithviraj… #RadheShyam is the fourth prominent title to be postponed… #RadheShyamPostponed OFFICIAL STATEMENT…
Budget 30 Lakh
1st Day Collection 4 Lakh
1st Week Collection 32 Lakh
India Net Box Office Collection 5 cr
Worldwide Collection 8 cr
Verdict All Time Blockbuster
2nd Highest Grossing Film of 1975
1) This film was clash with Sholay film and both films proved to be an all-time blockbuster at the box office.
2) Anita Guha played Santoshi Mata in this film. She played the role of God in many devotional films.
3) After the success of this film, people used to put a long line outside the house of Anita Guha to see her . If Anita Guha could be seen anywhere, people would touch her feet and take her blessings.
4) Due to the low theater at that time, people used to reach to see this film from far away and also put a long line to watch the film.
5) Wherever this film was released in the theater. People used to distribute prasad there. People used to take off their shoes and slippers before going inside the theater.
6) Santoshi Maa was very popular among the people since this film.
7) A remake of this film was made in 2006 with the same title. But the film flopped badly at the box office.
She would call me ‘Bala’ which in Marathi means son and I would refer to her as Mai which means mother. We actually shared a mother and son relationship. We were in touch. Whenever she was in Mumbai she would call and meet me and whenever I was in Pune, I would go to meet her. Mr. Amitabh Bachchan was present during the music launch of the film and later she was also a part of one the episodes of Kaun Banega Crorepati. She would always call me on Gudi Padwa. The last time I spoke to her was last April on Gudi Padwa. She was legendary and a pillar of strength. I am still trying to come to terms with her death. She was sabki mai and a farishta (angel).
As things stand today, Aditya Chopra is planning to bring Pathan on October 2 and Tiger 3 on Christmas, but only time shall say what happens next. Another delay in the release calendar of already announced films might change everything as both the biggies could even be pushed to 2023. “Adi is ethical and believes that films long in waiting deserve a shot at release before the ones that went on floors in the middle of pandemic. So he will wait and watch.”
Things are getting crazy, all producers will have to play nice when films are able to release.
RRR and LCS should get the first preference for a good release date since the films are ready and they’re big budget film, along with few others. Pathan and Tiger are still being made and they shouldn’t rush knowing the condition.
Now call them superhits or blockbusters, it does not matter. Similarly fighting over spoilt milk like 83, Bellbottom or Antim is also pointless. Apart from above 4, no other film has worked at BO. Incidentally only 1 bollywood film, 1 southie and 2 Hollywood films.
Bell Bottom, 83 and No Time to Die have all worked reasonably decently under respective circumstances with an Average verdict. 83 is a Hit overseas as well.
In Telugu, there were Krack, Uppena, Jathi Ratnalu-small films that became surprise blockbusters. Akhanda and Love Story superhits and Vakeel Saab, Shyam Singha Roy were hits.
Tamil also, there was the blockbuster Master, superhit Maanaadu and more.
The Covid restrictions simply constricted the Malayalam and Hindi markets.
“Every time a film can’t be a success (at the box office). What kind of film is that? Will it live even after I’m gone? If yes, then that’s a successful film,” Kamal had said once.
Amusing that I’ve never heard such scathing words for an SRK starring URBAN sports drama film called Chak De India which in itself never crossed >1.4 Cr footfalls despite the star being at his peak in 2007. The likes of DIL Chahta Hai, Baby, Neerja and 83 have been made to sound like horrendous films by BOI 😉
The kinda filth completely missing from films like Baby, Airlift, Lakshya and 83 that are essential to make cinema like Pushpa Chameli and Sooryavanshi super hits among our esteemed audience 😉
The element of patriotism might prevail once again. There was a change in the mood of the nation for long spell, from 2004/2005 onwards where toning down the hostilities between the 2 nations were the talk of the day. It reflected in Indian cinema. Films like Main Houn Na, Veer Zara, based on brotherhood of the nations were being made, keeping a target Pakistani audience in UK and Dubai in mind. And they did quite well.
But the mood has changed again during the last few years. Anil Sharma delivered a hard hitting drama epic with a very well etched-out love story back then and it created a never-seen-before kind of frenzy.
Both him and Sunny Deol are past their peak. But who knows? The mood in the country has changed again, now akin to those times when the first part released.
A hard hitting epic may work again. The first part was a hurricane, though. Gripped the nation in a way I have not seen again since then.
Read the respectable comments by Komal wherein he clearly states its the budget and not the film that’s failed 83. Compare this with BOIs commentary, you’d know the difference.
Look at words BOI uses.
Today
Pushpa went from 2.4cr to 2.2Cr which is 9% drop. They say ROCK STEADY
83 went from 1.4Cr to 1.2Cr which is 17% drop. They say FREEFALL.
It’s the exaggerated language that is deplorable. And when you manipulate words like this you are trying your hardest to be extreme rather than stating facts.
For Pushpa say it remains steady with typical fall expected.
For 83 say given it’s total collections, the daily falls are simply not helping or something like this.
They need an education in English language to stop taking extreme positions on numbers.
Anyone can rewrite their reporting to not sound condescending or plain mean.
There leading headlines are just typical of a bad news broadcaster or tabloid sensationalist headline grabbing garbage newspaper.
Imagine every country in world had to put forward there best box office site. You pro BOI fans will be running a mile to defend it. It would be laughing stock of world.
Its a combination of the budget going overboard due to delays, the bad release timing (2 weeks earlier made more sense) and of course the 3rd wave and consequent curfews. Its the same scenario Tenet faced in the US in 2020 (domestic flop but a global success). I cannot remember boxofficemojo or any Hollywood trade analyst go on a ranting spree against Nolan.
Not about Kabir not being Nolan. Its about 83 being a well made film and BOIs shocking rants. Against the same film maker whose Bajrangi was termed as the best film of the decade by the same BOI.
Ranveer Singh, in a recent interview with IndiaToday.in, said that a film like 83 happens once in 20 years, and the last one that saw this kind of euphoria was Aamir Khan’s Lagaan (2001). Perhaps that is where it went wrong. The creative liberties Lagaan took worked because it never claimed to be retelling history. Teen-guna lagaan – like a host of golden daffodils…ten thousand…at a glance – wasn’t about the number but stood as a symbol of oppression we could all collectively identify with. Cut to 83, when a Pakistani Army official calls up an Indian Army border base camp to inform them of a ceasefire so that the Indian jawans can listen to the match on the radio, it all feels construed, and unnecessarily.
As films get postponed, lack of content might force theatres to shut down; Gaiety cinema stops showing 83 and halts operations
By -Fenil SetaCreated: Jan 6, 2022 – 10:00 AM ISTUpdated: Jan 6, 2022 – 11:31 AM IST
Satadeep continued, “Spider-Man and Pushpa have slowed down. Both these films would have done better had the Omicron not reared its ugly head. We would have no other option (but to shut). We can’t run the cinema like this. We have overhead expenses. Also, it’s better to shut down. Who’ll go through the headache of deciding what to play and whether viewers would turn up to watch the film?” He also added, “Had 83 worked, we all would have been sorted for another few weeks.”
Manisha Koirala and Sanjay Leela Bhansali re-unite for Heera Mandi after 25 years
By -Bollywood Hungama News NetworkCreated: Jan 6, 2022 – 10:03 AM IST
Bombay Velvet lost 70 Cr on a budget of 100. 83 has lost a similar number on an investment of 250. Do BOI editors need to go back to elementary math? The same bunch of clowns who gave Semi Hit tags to distribution disasters like Jai Ho and Dilwale.
Cant understand why boi is crying as if its money is lost? Its the producers money and they are not crying this loudly. Profit and loss are part of life. Everyone cant be a rohit shetty sticking to safety and not trying to experiment. Each one to its own. Boi is crying about the loss again and again which is making me laugh. It is trying its best to make others do the same. And when others dont do the same, it cries more.
Lights off to you boi. I know you are going through SS meticulously and want to divide us into quarelling warmongers.
History is not made by people who eat 3 times a day and happy not to go for anything risky. It is made by people who are ready to starve and who are ready to climb everest in bad weather and make risky decisions. Go get a life! Or do the same thing again and again until the world ends. Just like rohit shetty. Just like Salman Khan.
Actually I have started enjoying your rants. Wiithout those rants, you are not what you are. Hope you wont change and continue to be what you are!
And we are living in a world where we start worrying or maybe gloating that some film failed. Looks more like crocodile tears!
Success will not make a dog become a lion and failure will not make a lion become a dog.
Antim would be called a Flop while Sooryavanshi would be tagged a Hit. Amusing that ballsofficeindia is giving verdicts based on 2019 methodology in pandemic times. Yet having different strokes for crass masala films since as per 2019 methodology, Sooryavanshi should be nothing more than a Semi Hit.
I agree…atleast stick to one method. Call 83 a disaster but then Antim becomes a flop , tadap is a flop, sooryavanshi a semi hit. I am okay with this is consistently done.
But BOI is known for its inconsistent classifications. Hence i thought of not relying on their verdict.
BTW I’m not advocating one can’t change there mind on BOI. It’s not a given one should have a binary/ binding position on them. But 99% of your comments specifically have praised them on there opinion pieces. So I’m not buying this uturn – I’m calling you out. And I’m calling out all BOI cheerleaders.
The site is NOTHING to be proud of. Today I looked at a Deloitte paper on India film trends from 2019. Its on Google and you can search for it. All of Deloitte’s data on box office came from Bollywood Hungama or Koimoi – data and verdicts. No professional company that has proper standards would use a third class site like BOI. Total own goal or reputational risk written all over it. They would be ridiculed.
Bell Bottom and 83 are both average while everything else is a flop. Respect the audience verdict for once. Distribution losses or gains have nothing to do with the paying viewer.
@Jay-Is that for me? Antim is a poor theatrical performer. An outright flop in every aspect. And yes we need to go easy on economics in these times towards films that are biting the bullet and going for theatrical release in times when the industry is on life support.
I understand the sentiment but isn’t it being reserved for personal likes or dislikes rather than derivative of economics? Even I wouldn’t call Bell Bottom a disaster, I’ve said elsewhere below average or underperformed or worst case a flop is fair.
83 is looking at much bigger losses.
Here each film should be given it’s ‘actual’ verdict and then you can slide it up one notch or something.
I would like to know your ‘actual ‘ economic verdict for both Bell Bottom and 83 ignoring the external issues first.
Ps. I’m all for being liberal, kind and nice in these times of hardship…but let’s first get the facts correct.
What is the economic verdict for 83 and Bell Bottom. We can then take it from there.
(I know teachers dealing with this kind of stuff who have to provide a grade to students. Students who haven’t sat exams because covid situation cancelled exams. But in such cases a sensible, transparent process is followed to be fair to every student. However, in doing this the average grade will always increase. A teacher can assume a student trending at D will get to B. So they give a B. But there are always students who trended to B who end up at C because of nerves, 1 bad question. It’s not something a teacher can predict. They will get an A. Not C. Imagine being that student who got predicted less than what they are achieving…it wouldn’t happen. Hence leniency will creep in.
Here 100% there is a negative economic verdict for both 83 and Bell Bottom. It’s that reference I would like to know first. Then apply what adjustment you feel fair).
My thought on it is more from availability Vs. sold.
The argument for most films thrown out is that if 100% capacity was available, it would have done lot more. True but at the same time how do you explain Bell Bottom collecting only like 7 to 9% in limited number of theatres?
I can understand if it was colleting 75% from the limited release than you can have that argument that more theatres would have added lot more money.
I think right now only movie you can make solid argument for is Pushpa, i think that movie would have collected lot more if there were theatre available for it and more shows.
Yes covid impact is much more on films that show excellent WOM. Rest can’t complain as much.
Some PVR investor data I seen recently shows average occupancy in theatres is 35%. Now I checked for other entertainment medium in UK/US like live theatres. They operate at 80-90% average. A football stadium in UK will operate at 90%+.
So I don’t buy into this restrictions stuff too much. A complete show cancellation is a legitimate negative impact though. Here you lose the 35% audience you were expected to have.
Bell Bottom opening %’s for occupancy tell you enough about it’s opening. The addatoday.com data I’m sure won’t ever have averaged above 50% throughout any morning/afternoon/evening report. So it’s hardly a great point. If it is having an impact it’s offset by having a run at cinema with restrictions too. It ends up having a longer tail…Saket’s day 1 comparison to lifetime showed 12x or something. No way would Bell Bottom have that multiplier in precovid times.
“Saket’s day 1 comparison to lifetime showed 12x or something. No way would Bell Bottom have that multiplier in precovid times.”
Of course not.
That’s why i always say that right now, we really don’t good sense of anything when it comes to boxoffice because everything is so fluid.
And everyone can manipulate data how they want. Like someone had put up an argument few days ago that Pushpa collection for past Tuesday was only 1 Cr more than 83. But when you look in context of 83 made 1.5 Cr and Pushpa made 2.5 Cr, you have one movie collecting 60% more than the other film.
Even by BOIs vague logic, 83 has recovered 180+ on a budget of 250 Cr. The loss margin is under 30% in a worst case scenario which makes it eligible for a Below Average verdict even in normal times. Its certainly an Average performer in present times, all things considered. The same cannot be said about Bell Bottom since its adjusted collection would hardly be at par with a Below average Gold.
Following is how i see the use of different sources-
Taran Adarsh for box office verdict / classification. He is most consistent. So will go by his verdict, though i still see him using pre pandemic system of judging based on Distributor’s cost.
BOI is good for early box office numbers and response because theirs is fastest and usually different from Producers total, which Taran takes. The way BOI is going hard on 83, there seems to be an agenda which noone is ready to accept.
BOIs numbers are manipulated as per their agenda. There’s no ways on earth that they have access to numbers before the producers or distribution sources. Unless there’s obvious proof of fudging from the production end, we need to stick to Taran’s/BollywoodHungama numbers. And this entire hoax of reporting footfalls to the last possible decimal is a joke!
So basically cherry pick. You still haven’t found a single source soliciting Bell Bottom as a HIT. The search goes on. At least we know your dearest BOI thinks it’s a disaster. Very harsh verdict.
What i am doing is a prepandemic adjustment for the movies, offsetting the loss in theatricals with gain from OTT offer. I beleive just like inflation adjustment or holiday / non holiday release difference, this is important to do specially while giving a verdict.
Unfortunately this suggestion of mine seems to be my way of looking at things across all movies incl Bell Bottoms, Antim, Tadap or 83. I dont see any one else looking at it in this way.
There is no clear cut way to judge success of a movie on OTT. Web series yes, if they commission a new one it’s a good indicator. Unless you can clearly calculate a subscriber increase related to a specific release – it’s impossible.
Frankly the OTT deals are not struck to offset distributor losses. Distributors don’t get these in their pockets.
You are deriving a producer wise profit profile. Even in prepandemic world many producers tabled profits – it doesn’t make those films hit films. A successful film surely has to succeed against the cost of distribution. Your method doesn’t cover account for a distribution loss in verdict.
I mean did you use to contaminate satellite deals to offset distribution costs before covid? Think of OTT deal is iteration of satellite deal not theatrical release deal.
And no cherry picking is Khan fan’s love. They love to put down movies of all other actors who come on the way of their favourites. I am not one of them. 🥳
I have been consistely using BOI numbers and Taran’s classification. If you go through the thread we have where i exposed how F1 classification is inconsistent.
So despite some flaws with everyone, usually
boi are right with their initial numbers and Taran with boxoffice verdict.
So yes, BOI is not entirely crap. They have certain strengths in getting the numbers. Producers also rely on their numbers on several occasions where they wait for BOI to release its figures before producers release theirs.
However BOI’s commentry is embarrassing. Their views of high concept films is not something anyone in the industry agrees to.
It’s rubbish for decades now. You are choosing to see it now. But such articles have been posted 100s of times here but you’ve championed them and many times praised there articles. Unclear what has led to your u turn.
70 rs shared in 55:45ratio between multiplex and producer (40 rs to cinema and 30 rs to producer or distributor basically the person dealing with the cinema chain.)
Week 2 the ratio becomes 45:55 between cinema and producer/distributor
Week 3 – 35:65
These ratios are not fixed and keep changing. If studio has a strong movie like YRF or Dharma, they can command a higher share from the cinema as per their terms agreed pre release as per buzz .
All above indicates that it’s a difficult business to be in due to high taxes and secondly the producer is rewarded with a higher share if his movie sticks around in forthcoming weeks post release clearly rewarding content.
Above from Quora. Typically this implies a cost to distribute. The Bollywood Hungama link basically suggests same without providing distribution cost.
Antim above maybe sold on commission basis as explained.
Quote ‘Zee has decided to release the film as a distributor across the globe on a commission basis. They will be charging approximately 8% to 10% standard commission meaning, take away 8% to 10% of the distributor share leaving the rest for SKF.’
Commission model is looking like standard 8-10% take home of DS. So in Bell Bottom case are you implying from 32Cr after entertainment tax Bell Bottom gets 10% of distribution share.
I will leave it to likes of Krish, Rahul etc who might be better placed to explain this better.
Pre pandemic this would have been below average. However considering the pandemic and overall industry scenario and how they benefited, it would not be wrong to call Bell Bottom a hit.
so as per your numbers, it’s made a loss of 5 cr. As per my understanding it is a much bigger loss maker than that. How can anyone with even a little bit sanity call it a hit??
If one shoots a significant portion of their movie in UK and the movie gets a proper theatrical release for atleast 2 weeks then UK government gives a major subsidy on the cost incurred.
One of the major reason why Bell Bottoms was release was to get this subsidy. If it had gone directly to OTT, then subsidy was not possible.
“The makers fetched approximately Rs 150 crore from non-theatrical sources, including the rebate from UK government, leaving Rs 130 crore to recover from theatrical medium. In a nutshell, the film had to clock Rs 230 crore in the domestic belt and 60 crore in the overseas market to hit the breakeven mark. As things stand today, 83 is looking to collect a domestic share of Rs 55 to 60 crore, whereas the overseas share is expected to be in the range of Rs 26 to 28 crore.”
As he takes profit share, he might not taoe 100 cr, however we really dont know. So we have to tale his market value even though knowing well that his wont be 100 cr.
However despite this Bell Bottom is in green. Not a big profit but considering the scenario then, prodicers would take it.
I don’t need to. The verdict is out on Koimoi, BOI…Taran or Bollywood Hungama has no verdict. Komal you can wait for FI classification.
All other sites you can see are saying flop or disaster.
I don’t know what you’re trying to pull by aggregating OTT revenue against distributor losses. No one in past would aggregate satellite revenue against distributor losses otherwise every film is in profit zone. LOL.
I’m no fan of Taran Adarsh because he mixes business with film reviews interchangeably. But at least he shared publicly centre wise data in past. You could use it to draw some conclusions or do some checks with. Komal also started giving out data precovid but you had to pay for it.
BOI in mid 00s did present ‘some’ data but now it shares very little. Surprised how such smart people blindly follow a third rate site.
Not just third rate site, just about everyone is following it.
What’s the source of most of BO discussion here?
I say everyone should just ignore BOI site. And maybe a year from now or two years from now, they’ll die down. If everyone keeps talking about it, keeps referencing it, than it’s not going anywhere. Case in point, we’re talking about BOI same way we did 10 years ago. Who’s the winner here???
I get your point, but my kid doing something bad would have consequences which can impact my/his life and someone else.
Same with me bringing up happening in India like Rape, corruption, etc… It impacts people lives.
I would like to believe that BOI writeups is not causing major concern for the world and it’s safety.
For me, personally, BOI writeups does absolutely nothing to my life or cause any major concern for world hence i could careless about them and will not give them a second of my life.
Aayush Sharma NO LONGER a part of Salman Khan’s Kabhi Eid Kabhi Diwali – wants to do main lead
Bollywood Hungama had previously reported that Aayush Sharma will be joining the cast of Salman Khan and Sajid Nadiadwala’s upcoming collaboration, Kabhi Eid Kabhi Diwali. However, we can now confirm that Aayush Sharma is no longer a part of this action comedy, which stars Pooja Hegde as Salman’s love interest.
“After being appreciated in Antim, Aayush has taken this decision to not take up character roles in big films. Salman too feels the same, as the track of Aayush in Kabhi Eid Kabhi Diwali was not a significant one. He was to play the role of Salman’s younger brother, though the entire film revolved around Salman’s character,” a source told Bollywood Hungama. The source also added that Salman’s other protégé; Zaheer Iqbal will however continue being a part of Kabhi Eid Kabhi Diwali.
“Two more actors will come on board to play key roles in this Farhad Samji directed action comedy. The casting work is currently going on in full swing as the movie will take off by the end of February,” the source further told us. Meanwhile, South Superstar Venkatesh has come on board to play the parallel lead to Salman Khan in Kabhi Eid Kabhi Diwali.
His character has been kept under wraps for now; however, we heard that a top Southern actress will soon join the cast to play the romantic lead alongside Venky. Kabhi Eid Kabhi Diwali is a reunion of Salman with Sajid after the blockbuster, Kick, and we trust the duo to deliver big yet again with this high octane commercial entertainer.
Sidney Poitier, Hollywood’s First Major Black Movie Star, Dies At 94
Sidney Poitier, who held dual US and Bahamian nationality, was “an icon, a hero, a mentor, a fighter, a national treasure,” Deputy Prime Minister Chester Cooper said on his official Facebook page.
Renowned Ad Man and journalist Gerson Da Cunha passed away. He died on Friday at the age of 92. He was a multi-faceted personality who began his journey as a journalist with Press Trust India and went on to join the advertising industry. He also starred in a few Bollywood movies.
The film couldn't achieve break-even for distributors in AP, US, Singapore, etc & ended up as a loss venture. Many compared it with KGF & Baahubali. But the fact is, neither its content nor its collections are close to those biggies.
“Domestic collections” should only be for the original language version, Telugu in Pushpa’s case, Hindi in Sooryavanshi’s. Anything outside of it is part of global gross (including dubbed Hindi version in Hindi circuits just like Mandarin version of Dangal in China). Hindi circuits for a dubbed Telugu film is as much as alien market as overseas. Exact reason why I believe HGOTY should be restricted to domestic market and original language alone, Sooryavanshi in 2021 (not the multi lingual Spiderman since its Hindi version barely grossed 50 Cr).
Collections are always language vs language, not currency vs currency. A change of language or a dubbing changes the entire essence and target audience of the original.
Just curious how much kgf had collected all India and how much pushpa collected so far?
Also how much extra do we add to pushpa total for covid, limited screen space, night curfew etc…
So sad to hear so many single screen theaters getting closed.
If you are from Bengaluru or lived there..Santosh/Nartaki are very popular and main centers for lot of big Bollywood and Kannda movies..Have watched lot of Big B movies there growing up there..
Sad…remember watching several movies at Santosh and Nartaki when i was in Bengaluru.
Nartaki had all the awards of golden jubilees of 60s and 70s in the foyer area.
The entire Majestic area in Bengaluru had many cinema halls. I still remember watching 2 back to back movies as theatres were just across the street from one another or mere 2-3 blocks away. They were pretty well managed too.
Finally on Bell Bottoms, no matter what my or your opinion is, if BOI or Taran classifies a movie we have to take its verdict.
Till Taran gives his, we have to consider Bell Bottom as a disaster as per BOI.
This would be unfortunate because it was cheered widely by all exhibitors and distributors for its performance at box office. However an Akshay Kumar movie doing 32 cr nett does make it sound like a disaster. So be it.
Looop Lapeta starring Taapsee Pannu and Tahir Raj Bhasin to premiere on February 4 on Netflix
By -Bollywood Hungama News NetworkCreated: Jan 8, 2022 – 10:15 AM ISTUpdated: Jan 8, 2022 – 11:05 AM IST
The upcoming comedy thriller starring Taapsee Pannu and Tahir Raj Bhasin is all set to hit Netflix on 4th February 2022. Looop Lapeta promises to be an adventurous ride through a sticky situation where a girlfriend is on a mission to rescue her boyfriend. As the plot unfolds, a series of events constantly prompts the lovers to make choices that define their future.
After 2020, 2021 was the year Bollywood would love to forget (with few exceptions). Apart from box office damage, there was just a handful of films that were worth remembering. On the other hand, we saw many big stars like Salman Khan and John Abraham giving films one shouldn’t ever dare to watch. Yes, we’re talking about Radhe and Satyameva Jayate 2!
You must have got an idea above, where we’re really heading to. We have shortlisted some worst films of 2021, which should be missed at all costs. So, fasten your seat belts to know what was the worst of last ‘gloomy’ year!
According to a report in Mirchi9, the OTT giant has paid Rs. 22 crores for the post-theatrical digital streaming rights of the film. Well, this amount is a bit less for a blockbuster movie like Pushpa. But, it looks like the makers had done the deal before the release of the movie.
Pushpa releases on OTT: Here’s how much Amazon Prime Video paid for Allu Arjun and Rashmika Mandanna starrer
Allu Arjun and Rashmika Mandanna starrer Pushpa: The Rise Part 1 is all set to premiere on Amazon Prime Video today.
Watched Chandigarh kare Ashiqui. A very good film. Highly engaging with a message. Not one dull moment. If not for covid, this film would have made more than 100 crores. Ayushman and Vani along with others gave superb performances. This is also a sort of sports film. It is like a fairytale. I got 100 percent satisfaction watching this movie.
I am honestly shocked how this film is doing so well in Hindi, it is in fact a flop or average at best in Telugu and underperformed in Tamil. It’s the first time I think something like this happened
It truly is amazing what Pushpa is doing in hindi belt. I think the 4th Friday number are around 2 CR.
I watched it last night and found it to be an okay movie. I think it connected in hindi belt because there really aren’t any decent action film that is made. I liked that they didn’t have too much violence, actions were more of like early 90s hindi films.
Fahad Fazil scenes were brilliant, both “BRAND” scenes were well shot.
Not 1st time. Saaho didn’t do well in south markets but it did 150 crores just in Hindi dubbed version and is technically Hit. That’s phenomenal as well.
Pushpa is a long film. I could not watch it in one go. Today I watched three fourths. Rest I will watch when I am free.
My take so far.
It is a simple story and it is raw. Once you get used to the hero, you will enjoy his antics. His backstory tugs at our hearts. We start to empathise with him from the beginning. He has a sidekick Keshava. The hero is invincible and so we are not too worried about his safety! There is a lovestory, There are some very violent scenes and mixing of so many dialects, languages. The hero mixes and matches telugu, Kannada, tamil, hindi effortlessly. The slang used is peculiar to rayalaseema. And then there is Samantha’s oo antava song.
The usual cat and mouse games with the police.
When I finish watching, I will write more about the film.
I am dealing with some issues and so I cant devote fulltime. I have to attend to so many things and whenever I get time, I try to watch.
Just now finished watching Pushpa. The last scenes were quite intriguing. Making me wait for the next one. This time Shekhawat and not Kattappa. Both are bald.
But I hated to see the bald FF.
This film has its own raw charm.
Have not seen Telugu version, but Pushpa Hindi had a fantastic dubbing. Shreyas Talpade absolutely rocked in his voice over for Allu Arjun adding superb flair and style.
Am glad i could catch it in theatre. Had a blast.
And the item song by Samantha Prabhu was so much fun.
In the last few days several actors and actresses of the Telugu film industry have tested positive for Covid-19. Film stars such as Mahesh Babu, Manchu Manoj, Manchu Lakshmi, music director Taman, Nitin’s wife and actor Vishwak Sen among others have been infected. Actress Trisha also revealed on January 7 that she has tested positive for Covid-19. In spite of getting vaccinated and doing all she could to avoid contracting the virus, she was still affected.
Many film personalities in the Tamil movie industry have also recently contracted Coronavirus, including Kamal Haasan, Chiyaan Vikram, Vadivelu and Trisha Krishnan.
As @83thefilm enters one of the last weekends of its theatrical run (with most states imposing restrictions), here’s something that’s coming straight from my heart. I’m not saying this as a film exhibitor, but as a person who eats, breathes & lives cinema.
Akshay Rathi is one of the more sensible and balanced guys out there in the trade. His views have usually been very level headed but doesn’t get much traction due to the lack of clickbait opinions and hyperbolic rants.
83 will release on digital platforms after 8 weeks of theatrical run globally, says co-producer
Shibasish Sarkar, one of the co-producers of Ranveer Singh’s 83, said on Thursday that the film will release on OTT or TV only after an 8-week run in cinema halls.
Even as Ranveer Singh’s 83 struggles to pull cine-goers to theatres due to the rise in Omicron cases in India, the makers of the film continue to remain committed and have announced that the film will release on OTT or TV only after an 8-week run in cinema halls.
Shibasish Sarkar, the former CEO of Reliance Entertainment, who is also one of the co-producers of the Kabir Khan directorial on Thursday confirmed the same on Twitter.
He tweeted, “Film 83 will be released on Digital platforms or Satellite Television at least after 8 weeks of theatrical run globally.”
Delhi-Ncr, Mumbai, Pune, Bangalore and Kolkata were its primary markets. Delhi-Ncr is completely shut while Bangalore is on a weekend curfew. So for now its just Mumbai, Pune and Kolkata that 83s gonna collect from. The rest of the Hindi circuits would aid Pushpa Chameli’s collections via taalis, seetis and front bench perverts ogling at Samantha and Rashmika.
Totally misdirected information in terms of regions preferring Pushpa.
Pushpa is collecting primarily from Mumbai, Pune and Gujarat circuit. However it is not doing business of 83+spiderman combined in virtually all centres.
Distributors of PushpaHindi and SpiderMan have booked screens in Hindi region over the next 2 months taking advantage of no new release.
They are eyeing 10 cr and 30 cr additional nett collection respectively.
Pushpa Hindi release on OTT is now on hold for 2 months.
Odisha, MP, UP and Bihar were the primary collecting circuits as per boi initially before they changed tune and got back to being gujjuboxoffice like they always do.
Yes, there is lot of sleeze and female body exploitation which perhaps is attracting some sections and some demographies.
I could not stand many of those scenes and terrible violence. There is no difference between item girl and the heroine.
This film is C grade. Not even B grade. And I wonder whether Taran, Boi have seen this movie or they are simply ogling at the boxoffice only. The hero does not have any charm compared to even other charmless ones. He looks like another extra or side character. Of course it is realistic portrayal of a charmless law breaker. They cant look like Dharmendra.
My rating is 1.5.
A like for like comparison for the films would be 2.50 crore for Pushpa and 1 crore nett for 83 on Saturday as 83 (Hindi) has collections from Andhra, Tamil Nadu, Karntaka and Kerala while Pushpa (Hindi) is hardly being screened in these areas.
A like for like comparison for the films would be 2.50 crore for Pushpa and 1 crore nett for 83 on Saturday as 83 (Hindi) has collections from Andhra, Tamil Nadu, Karntaka and Kerala while Pushpa (Hindi) is hardly being screened in these areas.
A like for like comparison for the films would be 2.50 crore for Pushpa and 1 crore nett for 83 on Saturday as 83 (Hindi) has collections from Andhra, Tamil Nadu, Karntaka and Kerala while Pushpa (Hindi) is hardly being screened in these areas.
#BOI portal is Neither the karta dharta of all trade Nor the Official box office portal of Bollywood. It is jst another trade portal Which reports Nos. The credibility has gone for a toss. vindictive articles , Reporting Fake budgets,verdicts For Pr , Personal grudges..
Fact 1 : Mass audiences of the Hindi belt have proven to be far more receptive of southern films and their actors like Prabhas & Allu Arjun while the Telugu and Tamil masses are to reciprocate the gesture.
Fact 2 : Bollywood production houses like Dharma and Excel are more than happy to distribute southern films like Bahubali and KGF thereby making sure their dubbed Hindi versions find well over 2000 screens for release while producers down south are yet to accept the presence of dubbed versions of films like Dangal, Padmaavat and War which barely find 200-300 screens for their regional versions. Hence high quality Bollywood films like Dangal are now having to rely on dubbed Mandarin versions in China in order to outgross crass masala entertainers like Bahubali 2 on a global platform.
Fact 3: The Telugu and Tamil markets are at 50% of the Hindi market’s potential individually. With the restrictions, the Hindi market was only at 60% capacity, allowing equal comparisons between it and the Telugu/Tamil markets, which were open for a longer time as well.
Actually the seat capacity issue might be a myth, but I’m not able to figure out what exactly the Kerala box office (operating under similar constraints) offers. If Kerala box office (under stricter rules than the North) is working, then 2021 must be the worst year ever for Hindi cinema.
Watched this for the first time tonight. Despite the mediocre VFX and an aged Chiranjeevi playing a youngster, this masala movie never feels cheap, vulgar or crass at any point in time. A powerful story narrated with fluidity and flair with some good decent performances by the support case as well. Syeraa Narasimha Reddy is how magnum opus masala cinema ought to be made on a large canvas. 7/10
This is over all their movies.
Few stars are few notches above in certain genres like Akshay in Comedy, Devgn in intense dramas, Salman in family drama etc.
A source close to India Today revealed the same as, “Aamir Khan is planning to keep a special screening for Tom Hanks closer to Laal Singh Chaddha’s release. There is a buzz that closer to the release of Laal Singh Chaddha, Aamir would hold the screening for Tom Hanks in the US (United States) or travel there to personally show him the film. It is because he wants Tom Hanks to watch Laal Singh Chaddha and share his thoughts.” https://www.koimoi.com/bollywood-news/aamir-khan-to-take-laal-singh-chaddha-to-us-hold-special-screening-for-tom-hanks/
In all honesty, 83 shot itself in the foot. Opting for a 8 week theatrical release instead of a 4 week release like most films including Sooryavanshi and Pushpa, it could have reduced its losses to some 20-30 crore easily. The fact that producers are still insistent on an 8 week window is bizarre to say the least.
Ranveer Singh-starrer 83 has been struggling at the box office. However, the sports drama may soon enter the Rs 200 crore club. Despite the increasing restrictions and growing number of cases, movie buffs have been visiting the theatres to watch Ranveer in action. The Kabir Khan directorial was released on December 24, 2021.
Hollywood IGNORES the Golden Globes and the reason’s not COVID!
The HFPA has been in the eye of a storm after a Los Angeles Times’s investigation last year revealed there were no black members on its 87-member voting panel. Calling out the organisation for its ‘unethical behaviour’, Hollywood has since stayed away from this awards ceremony, with stars like Tom Cruise even returning the three Globes he had won. https://www.rediff.com/movies/report/hollywood-ignores-the-golden-globes-and-the-reasons-not-covid/20220110.htm
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#Pushpa Hindi version to premiere on Amazon Prime on 14th January. Film is already a SUPER HIT in hindi markets with a collection of approx 80 cr nett till now . #AlluArjun
Not entirely unexpected from a filthy worshipper of Periyar ideology & Dravidian land. I guess clowns like Siddharth tend to take illogical movies like RDB a bit too seriously..
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While I am extremely disgusted with Siddharth’s tweet and his subsequent explanation, I also condemn Bulli bai which is also extremely offensive. Thank god that the masterminds who are very young and brainwashed for money or ideology were arrested and their names were published. And who is Javed Akhtar to forgive them? It is the 100 women who suffered and are suffering the humiliation of being publicly auctioned. Hope Smriti Iraniji condemns both Siddharth and Buli Bai perpetrators with equal vehemence.
Smriti Irani: ‘Women, irrespective of religion, denied dignity on social media’
Speaking at The Indian Express e-Adda programme, Smriti Irani underlined the need for people to cut across party lines and come together to address this issue.
Here people are selective in pointing out outrage. So I brought what was bothering me since a long time. In my view both are about humiliating women and so both are wrong.
I am still confused with Bully Bai, what it intended etc.. Heard the main perpetrator a 19 yr old engineering student tried to commit suicide twice. His father said he was always confined to his room on his laptop and rarely used to meet people.
RRR: Rajamouli takes upon the onus
With interest increasing on it, DVV.Dayanna is facing immense stress. Coming to know about it, Rajamouli has taken the onus upon himself and decided to take the responsibility of clearing it. In return, Rajamouli may have a share in RRR profits. https://www.cinejosh.com/news/3/86816/rrr-rajamouli-takes-upon-the-onus.html
Is ranveer singh with his weird dress sense and over the top behaviour reminds us of legendary Raaj Kumar and Kishore Kumar? They were also talented like ranveer.
Filmmaker Pahlaj Nihalani is back with his next film and this time it’s a family entertainer set on the backdrop of COVID Times. ETimes reached out to Pahlaj Nihalani who revealed key details about the shoot of his new film. He said, “I shot the film in March and April and had planned for a December release but looking at the situation right now, we will decide on the release a little later.”
Pahlaj has cast his ‘Raja Rangeela’ heroine Mishika Chaurasia as the leading lady with newcomer Nawab Khan the lead opposite her. He further revealed, “I have Mithun Chakraborty, Anita Raaj and Shakti Kapoor playing some important roles in the film. I also have a lot of new-age actors playing character roles in the film.”
So what is the title of the film? Nihalani revealed, “It is titled ‘Anari Is Back’ as the hero of the film is an innocent and honest man, therefore, the title.” Nihalani’s film has already received clearance from the Censor Board and is now waiting for release. https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/hindi/bollywood/news/pahlaj-nihalanis-new-film-anari-is-back-is-ready-for-release/articleshow/88819720.cms
Lata Mangeshkar Admitted to ICU at Breach Candy Hospital in Mumbai After Contracting Covid-19
Sharing Mangeshkar’s health update, her niece Rachna told news agency ANI, “She is doing fine; has been kept in ICU only for precautionary reasons considering her age. Please respect our privacy and keep Didi in your prayers.”
Mangeshkar was earlier admitted to the hospital in November 2019 after she complained of breathing problems. At the time, Mangeshkar’s younger sister Usha had said the singer had a viral infection.
Reliance Entertainment, one of the production houses backing 83, shared the news that the film has crossed the Rs 100 crore mark in India on its official Twitter account. “India scores a century!” read the caption of the poster.
BOI is diminishing 83 collections to make sure the Hindi version doesn’t cross 100 Cr. I doubt the regional versions would do anything more than 2-3 Cr and the rest of the collections shared by Reliance are for the Hindi version alone.
All about expectations – no one expected Pushpa to make this much and a lot more was expected from 83 – around 250-300. But I don’t think it would have made that much even with no COVID and theatre closure issues because it doesn’t seem like it’s been liked to that degree.
Agree with Henry on 83, i dont’ think it would have made much regardless. Obviously it would have made more if there was no covid, etc… but it would not have made as some of the number are being thrown out. If barely touching 100 cr would have made 200 Cr in 2019 scenario, than can we say that 200 Cr grosser sooryavanshi would have easily made 400 cr in 2019 scenario?
Sooryavanshi collected about 26, 24 and 27 Cr first 3 days.
83 collected about 13, 17 and 17 Cr first 3 days. It’s not like 83 took flying start, it started okay and stayed okay and than fell sharply after new year, after that it fell below Pushpa daily collection but lot in terms percentage. If Jersey had released, 83 would not have gotten to 90 Cr.
83 did okay by getting 100, but i’m not going to start making arguments for it that it would have somehow made 200 cr in 2019, than we have to double up on all movies including sooryavanshi getting to 400 Cr.
Though a generic rule but the one i am using gets it close to prepandemic numbers.
So in a nutshell Post Diwali and opening of Guj/Maha and several other states till cinemas started to close again –
Non event good wom films (Chandigarh/Tadap) are doing 25-30% of its pre pandemic business
Non event excellent wom films (Pushpa Hindi) are doing 50% of its pre pandemic business
Event good wom films (Sooryavanshi/83) are doing 60-70% of its pre pandemic business.
Event very good wom films (Baahubali2/Dangal/Spiderman) should do 80-90% of its pre pandemic business
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So using the above rule, we can check the pre pandemic numbers. Ofcourse this doesnt have any impact other than the new box office classification.
83 would have made 170- 180 cr
Pushpa Hindi would have made 200 cr
Sooryavanshi would have made 285- 300 cr
Chandigarh would have made 80 cr
Tadap would have made 90 cr
Antim would have made 100 cr
If Pushpa Hindi does 90 cr, then its likely projected number is 180 cr.
If it gets to 100 cr then it is closer to 200 cr which i have considered, assuming it gets there.
Wrong, The massy movies such as Sorryvanshi and Pushpa have very little impact due to Covid. Not more than 15-20% as per my estimates. While the classy movies such as 83, CKA are highly impacted maybe 50-80%.
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What this tells us is that to get to 100 cr now, you need to be a decent event level movie like 83 or you need to be an excellent non event movie.
Any thing lesser and the boxoffice nosedives.
Anything more and the boxoffice gets closer and closer to pre pandemic.
I think Laal Singh Chadda was extremely luck as it would have done same business as 83. Add 10 cr for Aamir’s exclusivity. Both are quite similar in budget, concept, target audience and i hope LSC would be as good as 83.
BOI would have come hammers and tong on LSC while entire Aamir Khan brigade (90% of this forum, quite detached from real work where it is 10% or so) would have come with golden hammers and sharpened tongs. 😀
83 also worked big time with the same target audience. Its a loved film. Except that not all came to watch because of pandemic or availability of an alternative. Those that were not target audience for 83 did not bother. Pls dont mix pre pandemic expectation with what 83 faced.
Its an apprehension just based on the concept on which this movie is based. Once we see the trailer, would know more. And this apprehension is not misplaced, it applies to all big budget concept movies.
Again one can always challenge apprehensions but i am sure it exists to some extent.
Aamir is watching the fate of all the films. And so he will not have high expectations. His film is aimed at both national and intenational audience. There will be comparisons and some criticism too. Except one or two, we are all grounded and can face the reality. He did not stick to christmas release. Maybe its a wait and watch game for him. It is his home production and no fee for him. Except Kareena and Chay, there are no big stars.
I have seen the original Malayalam #Drivinglicence & it’s a super duper entertaining film.. Dharma Productions & Director @raj_a_mehta already has a WINNER on hands as they have got the casting right BIG TIME. https://t.co/ruIDZbf34X
When others are cancelling their shoots….Akki manages to shoot a promo song for his new movie Selfie.
I mean this is next level work ethics, planning and execution.
He is announcing more movies every months than what actors are doing in a year. I am stunned, amazed and proud all at the same time
This is his second remake out of 12 movies he has in pipeline. The other remake is Cindrella. Both Malayalam remakes. He is avoiding telugu remakes since Rowdy Rathore.
The writer of this movie directed Ayyapanum Koshiyum which was smashing. Just saw it’s beiing remade in Telugu as Beemla Nayak. Could be remade in Hindi – Ayushman in Prthviraj role , who can do Biju Manon”s role? Akshay perhaps 🙂
Top Five Biggest Losers Of All Time – 83 Tops
Wednesday 12 January 2022 13.30 IST
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There have been many disaster films in Hindi cinema since the Sohrab Modi film Jhansi Ki Rani in 1953 which was the first film to lose a huge amount of money. The film only lost 30 lakh but at that time there were hardly any films made on a budget of 30 lakhs and it was a huge amount for that time.
There are two ways at looking at disasters, one is the amount of money they lose and then there are complete washout films which just tank but sometimes they do not lose the most money as the budgets are lower and many times there is decent recovery from non theatrical revenue against the budget.
These washouts would include films like RGV Ki Aag (2007), Drona (2008), Khelein Hum Jee Jaan Sey (2010), Zanjeer (2013), Bombay Velvet (2015) Mirziya (2015), Fitoor (2016), Rangoon (2017) among others. 83 does not come in this list as its not what you call a washout but more of a rejected film. The washout films are the ones where the public just does not care for these films and dont even give them a chance.
Below is a list of the top five losers in Hindi cinema and these are the films to have lost 50 crore or more but only one of these films is a disaster and a washout also and that is Bombay Velvet. The others are also disasters due to heavy losses but they are rejected films and not washouts. The number in brackets is the loss of the film. The washout result of Bombay Velvet can be seen by the footfalls against the other films. Zero will remain with the highest footfalls of these films as its likely that 83 will not even reach the level of Mohenjo Daro.
BOI upgrades 83 status from Washout to Rejected. 🤣
Bombay Velvet was really the mother of all disaster. Its amazing how Anurag Kashyap still survives.
Growing up, Roop ki raani choron ka raaja was called the biggest flop of all time. Then Salman’s Chadramukhi overtook it in terms of losses. Not sure where these two rank now?
Rubbish analysis about escalated costs and diminished footfalls. Even in the worst case scenario, 83 has recovered >70% of its investment and had recorded >70 Lakh footfall.
After being accused of making sexist remarks against badminton player Saina Nehwal, actor Siddharth on Tuesday took to social media to apologise. In an open letter, he called Saina his champion, and said that he was trying to make a joke with his original comment, but it ‘didn’t land’. The shuttler responded to Siddharth’s apology by saying that the matter is ‘about women’ and wondered why the actor changed his stance after making the comment.
“He only said it and he is now apologising. I was surprised to see myself trending on Twitter that day. I haven’t spoken to him but I am happy that he apologised,” she said on the sidelines of the ongoing India Open, according to news agency PTI. “See, it is about women, he shouldn’t target a woman like that but it’s okay, I am not bothered about it, I am happy in my space and god bless him,” she added.
Identifying himself as an ‘ally’ of the feminist movement, Siddharth wrote in his open letter, “Dear Saina, I want to apologise to you for my rude joke that I wrote as a response to a tweet of yours, a few days ago. I may disagree with you on many things but even my disappointment or anger when I read your tweet, cannot justify my tone and words. I know I have more grace in me than that. As for the joke… If a joke needs to be explained, then it wasn’t a very good joke to begin with. Sorry about a joke that didn’t land.”
If one has still not realised then let me spell out….
If Modi plays a game, he keeps it technically right. He doesnt do 80-20. He plays on a strong wicket. To take him head on, one needs to have a lot of credibility, correctness and ability to do drama, lots of drama at national level from North to South and East to West India.
Sid in no way can match his game. Agree with Munna…he tried to take a dig on Modi using Saina’s tweet. He fell prey to Modi, not to Saina.
This government action has been done to support theatres from getting arm twisted by producers to increase tix price to insane level and ask for 55-60% share.
Theatres were having no cboice than adhere to this demand. Else for their business, they would keep the tix proce moderate and food price high and make more profit.
Now with high tix price, foot falls have reduced and profit of exhibitors are taking a hit.
Finally demand supply and market efficiency will rule. Government interventions seems to be temporary.
1. When you buy a Gucci over a tom, dick and Harry you are most probably already wealthy and paying 10 bucks or 20 bucks for cinema is irrelevant
2. Using taxi same thing. People who can’t afford will walk, use bus or train
3. Smartphone – you are buying technology that helps in many aspects of life. Now my phone can count steps for example. Plus it’s a year long investment
Cinema ticket is entertainment product. 2-3 hours max. Deeply silly comparison. Cinema ticket should be reasonable. Inflate food and drink.
It’s poor economics to inflate ticket prices all the time. You are pricing people out not just from ticket revenue but also food and drink revenue.
I have no idea whether the inflation is done on the producer’s behest or whether its the exhibitor’s call. But half the people visiting the theater might not be interested in snacks or popcorn and hence inflating f&b pricing does make a lot more business sense than inflating ticket prices and driving footfalls away.
Cinema is meant to be the common man’s entertainment option unlike shopping at high end retail stores. It’s like hiking the prices of essential commodities.
There is an implicit assumption that all cinema are same or similar. We are here arguing about 83 and Pushpa. They don’t cater to same set of audience. And audience have differing purchasing power. There is a famous story regarding Ford Model T and GM (“GM should offer not cheaper cars but better quality cars in a greater variety.”). Sholay, HAHK, 3 Idiots are universal. But most of the movies have different audience (there is definitely an overlap). My point is you can have affordable cinema but if Salman fans want to pay Rs 2000 on first three days of Antim, let them pay. Or some couple want to pay Rs 3000 in director cut at PVR..that should also be fine. But smaller cities should have smaller halls and cheaper ticket prices. If we look at HAHK release strategy, they first renovated dilapidated halls, increased the ticket price..and that made sure female gender showed up in a safe and clean surroundings. And there was pricing out in the strategy but once WOM became strong they moved to other smaller cinemas.
I think you can have both in same cinema. Some section can be VIP and other just regular price. Unfortunately prices get out of hand.
My local specifically stated that for NTTD they increased prices and they kept them there for Spiderman. Once you hit a price point you rarely go down nowadays. It doesn’t happen in sports, theatre pricing. Cinema prices have only gone one way.
if You keep increasing prices at certain point people are going to stop watching movies at your location. People should study why there have been so many closures of single screen cinema. Relatively they have been cheap. I think it has to do with operating larger cinema and content not matching audience taste /sensibility.
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Ajay Devgn has taken off to the Sabarimala Temple in Kerala. The actor left for the darshan, today. Devgn had been steadfastly abiding what it takes to go there for a pilgrimage. He hadn’t spoken about it to many in his circle, but ETimes is now bringing you this breaking news FIRST and EXCLUSIVE.
According to the official website of the temple, a pilgrimage to Sabarimala is all about the test of senses. Pilgrims are expected to lead a simple pious life known as ‘Vrutham’ for the successful completion of the pilgrimage. A source says, “Ajay followed quite a few rituals required for a month or so. The visible ones were that he was spotted wearing black, he did not cut hair or nails for about a month and he did not shave either.” https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/hindi/bollywood/news/ajay-devgn-takes-off-to-keralas-sabarimala-temple-actor-followed-the-rituals-for-a-month-exclusive/articleshow/88862314.cms
Netflix assembles Mohanlal, Mammootty, Kamal Haasan, Fahadh Faasil for star-studded Malayalam anthology
Mohanlal, Mammootty and Fahadh Faasil are among the star cast of Netlfix’s upcoming Malayalam anthology, which will be presented by Kamal Haasan.
Gujjus just love AkshayKumar, dont they….Housefull4 was a massive blockbuster too.
'SOORYAVANSHI' TO RE-RELEASE IN GUJARAT TOMORROW… On the auspicious occasion of #Sankranthi festival, #Sooryavanshi will re-release across 30 non-national multiplexes in #Gujarat tomorrow… This move will boost footfalls at a time when there's dearth of new content in cinemas. pic.twitter.com/dOb2ke8jR2
Well Gujjus in general have a good sense of humor. Not just HF4 & Soorya even classics like Golmaal 4, Judwaa 2 & Pushpa chameli have scored heavily in Gujju land.. at least as per boxofficegujarat.com
Oh Gandhi did have a great sense of humor with his insistence on a bootlegging dry state of India and experiments with truths with a teenage niece. And Modi’s sense of humor is evident in all his bluffmaster speeches & 8pm shockers.. actually both sense of humors are sinister
BOIs entire rant on 83s economics falls flat when you consider the fact that 83s pre pandemic cost was 150 cr (at par with War, cannot possibly be more!) and an additional 50 cr due to pandemic postponement. Even in a worst case scenario the total cost is 200 cr approx and as per cost vs recovery model, the global recovery is 170-180 cr which is an ROI of -10-15% and nowhere near disasters like Zero or Bombay Velvet. This 260 cr figure and the biggest disaster tag is a figment of BOIs imagination. Yes the distributors of B/C centers have lost big, but they did so during the so called Semi Hits of Jai Ho & Dilwale too.
Actually, even per Mankad, the budget is close to 280 crore. Kapil and his team alone were paid close to 50 crores, they booked stadiums in England for the matches and the pandemic added an extra 30 crore. The budget went wrong, not the film.
So we’re to believe the likes of Balwinder Sandhu and Madan Lal would charge crores for their narratives. Conspiracy theories at their heights. Neither Nahta nor Taran has confirmed the budget. The rest of it is speculation.
Strong rumor now in the industry about the 5th project that Akshay would announce for 2023. YRF’s second in the series after Prithviraj in their 3 films deal with Akki over 10 years.
I think the difference between what Salman Khan and others like Akshay Kumar, Hrithik, Ranveer is doing is that Salman is making films for himself and director comes next and then the story. Till the time directors were reaching out to him with story because Salman would fit the character, he ruled the industry.
Question is why aren’t he being approached and why all new directors and stories going to Akshay or Hrithik or Ranveer?
The worst markets are East Punjab and Delhi NCR but these will struggle to get numbers for films which have that South feel, its the same for Hindi films in this zone. The Delhi / UP number has been helped by good numbers in many centres of UP. The total collections of the film so far are 83 crore nett and it should finish up with a total around the 90 crore nett mark. The collections of Pushpa (Hindi) till date are as follows
Delhi & Gurgaon theaters are shut so obviously the numbers are low. But yes, Ncr, Mumbai-Pune, Bangalore and to an extent Kolkata seem to be having the most mature audience while Gujjus seem to love guilty pleasures and spoofs which the idiots at boxofficesaurashtra seem to mistake for genuine appreciation.
Problem is such men also have another face of someone who would stand by you.
Closest star in the industry to him is SRK and Aamir. Both got involved in a scuffle with him but both eventually embraced him. You need gunda mawaali types.
'SOORYAVANSHI' TO RE-RELEASE IN GUJARAT TOMORROW… On the auspicious occasion of #Sankranthi festival, #Sooryavanshi will re-release across 30 non-national multiplexes in #Gujarat tomorrow… This move will boost footfalls at a time when there's dearth of new content in cinemas. pic.twitter.com/dOb2ke8jR2
A strictly okay watch that is boring for the most part with none of the scenes standing out. Well, maybe the penultimate scene at the police station with the hero and his arch nemesis. It never derails completely but is just not convincing enough.
It is as expected an 80s style entertainer and has a hero with street smart antics and flat unidimensional characters that have no depth whatsoever. The women are meant to be protected and harassed (a couple of scenes involve paying money for sexual favours that are played for comic effect). But theek hai. It’s a mass movie meant for entertainment that knows what people want and not films like 83. Kya karein!
Its overlong and aimless and stretches itself to no fruition. Yes, there’s a part 2 coming up and hope that offers more depth and maybe FaFa will save the day
Even by the standards of mass entertainers, the likes of Syeraa and KGF are far superior films. I wonder what’s with the interiors of the Hindi belt nowadays. First Kanchana, then Laxmi and now this. Perhaps its pure good old buffooneries and guilty fun a lot of them seek.
“Perhaps its pure good old buffooneries and guilty fun a lot of them seek.”
100%. This is what it is. Films like these are based on strong characters. Most of them have super hero capabilities. Pushpa is an unabashed bucolic criminal. Someone who no one would want to meet in person.
SATYAMSHOT 
January 4, 2022 at 8:05 AM
https://indianexpress.com/article/entertainment/movie-review/the-lost-daughter-movie-review-olivia-colman-oscar-netflix-elena-ferrante-adaptation-7699994/
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January 4, 2022 at 8:08 AM
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January 4, 2022 at 8:23 AM
Watched Cobra Kai (season 4) in 3 sitting. Enjoyed it a lot. Really liked the message it was delivering towards the end and your way is not the only way. Different approaches will work for different people under different situations.
Minnal Murali – My goodness, our own super hero movie and it was joy to watch from beginning to end. Low budget film but it looked right. Can’t wait for part 2. I hope they stay true to core of the story where there’s an emotional story which connects with you. The guy who plays Simbhu is very good, he is actually the movie.
Honsala Rakh – Cute little Panjabi film. I think this film had done very well in Canada. Seen plenty of movies on same theme but not a bad watch at all.
Chorri – It was okay. The message is disturbing if still true.
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January 4, 2022 at 9:02 AM
Pushpa: The Rise overtakes 83 at box office in Hindi; Earns 1 Cr more than the Ranveer Singh starrer…
The third Monday collection of Pushpa’s Hindi version is approximately Rs. 2.60 Cr while the second Monday collection of 83 is approximately Rs. 1.80 Cr. While Pushpa’s Hindi version showed a 25 percent fall vis-à-vis its third Friday, 83 fell by nearly 60 percent. The appreciation that 83 is receiving is not in synchronisation with its box office numbers.
https://www.pinkvilla.com/entertainment/box-office/hl-pushpa-rise-overtakes-83-box-office-hindi-allu-arjun-starrer-earns-1-cr-more-ranveer-si-983962
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January 4, 2022 at 9:49 AM
Thanks all who asked me to stay back. I just cant disrespect your feelings. The reason for my absence is that some issues have cropped up and I am trying to deal with them.
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January 4, 2022 at 10:08 AM
So GLAD to see you back.
Hope all goes well with issues.
I hope AnJo is doing well as well.
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January 4, 2022 at 8:21 PM
Yes, hope AnJo gets better and be seen here soon.
Also hope Satyam, Rocky and GF will be back here this year.
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January 4, 2022 at 8:19 PM
Hi Sanjana: So very nice to have you back. Hope things get better and happy new year to all!
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January 4, 2022 at 8:47 PM
Happy new year to you too Rajesh.
Agree, I hope more of old timers do comeback.
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January 4, 2022 at 10:00 AM
https://www.rediff.com/movies/report/2021-the-box-office-report/20220104.htm
I am happy that the situation is not that bad. Happy that 83 is getting to 100 crore. Haooy that Pushpa is making news. Telugu industry is not about Rajamouli and Prabhas only. Spidy crossed the important 200 crore mark.
In a way grateful to Jersey for makng 83 get some important bo collection. Disappointed that RRR and others have to wait.
About high ticket price for 83. Some still want to watch it inspite of high ticket prices for an event film which is good news. Nothing wrong in being a multiplex film and nothing wrong in being a singlescreen film.
Wishing you all a belated happy new year!
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January 4, 2022 at 10:13 AM
Agree, Jersey postponing helped all 3 films, more so for 83. If Jersey had released, i think 83 would have crashed bigtime past friday.
There were many good/great films in pat that didn’t do well at boxoffice for various reasons. 83 isn’t the first one and it will not be the last one to fall in this scenario.
Biggest benefit of Pushpa will go to KGF Chapter 2.
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January 4, 2022 at 10:22 AM
83 is not about ranveer or Kabir Khan. It is more about Kapil dev and his team and that victory. A respectable bo collection will be a tribute for them. That some still cherish them to this day.
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January 4, 2022 at 1:55 PM
The entire talk about 83 benefiting only due to festive season is complete nonsense. We’ve had films like Tees Maar Khan, Thugs of Hindostan, Zero among others which have tanked on the very first week despite adequate festive dates and no competition. The fact that 83 has held stable for over 10 days despite being in a 3 way tussle in itself is testimony to its appreciation (pointless getting into imdb ratings of 83 as against the likes of Zero, Dabang 3 and Thugs). The downslide on the second Monday has more to do with reduced capacity, night curfews and other stringent restrictions in major metropolitan cities (as opposed to smaller centers where Pushpa’s ruling the roost) and hence not only has 83 seen a slight fall but so has Spiderman. I hope I don’t receive a response from the usual suspects on this one. Got no interest in justifying something crystal clear to folks as blind as a bat.
PS : I paid more for War on the first weekend at a PVR multiplex in Bangalore than I paid for 83 on its first day of release. Got no idea where this high ticket price hysteria is being created from (except BOIs usual idiocy of course).
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January 4, 2022 at 3:20 PM
This is how much Zero made during the New Year Weekend:
Day 8 0.90 cr.
Day 9 1.10 cr.
Day 10 1.50 cr.
Day 11 0.90 cr.
Day 12 1.50 cr.
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January 4, 2022 at 3:22 PM
So much for any film working during the New Year Weekend.
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January 4, 2022 at 2:42 PM
83 has gone down further on Tuesday.
https://www.addatoday.com/2022/01/83-2nd-tuesday-12th-day-collection.html
Spiderman is steady:
https://www.addatoday.com/2022/01/spider-man-no-way-home-3rd-tuesday-day.html
Pushpa shows solid hold on 3rd Tuesday:
https://www.addatoday.com/2022/01/pushpa-hindi-3rd-tuesday-day-19.html
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January 4, 2022 at 3:35 PM
Spiderman:NWH is going to wrap up below 2`15 crores. Might be less than 210 crores as well.
In Karnataka, a 50% cap on theatres has been imposed along with a weekend curfew.
Ajith Kumar’s Valimai is postponed and theatres in TN are going to be shut down.
In a week from now, theatres all across India are most probably going to shut down completely.
But, of course, political rallies will continue without any social distancing.
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January 4, 2022 at 3:46 PM
The news about Valimai is not confirmed as of yet, but it is quite likely to be postponed after TN government releases more details about the imminent lockdown tomorrow.
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January 4, 2022 at 5:29 PM
Funny, 83 12th day is pretty much same as Zero, a film which was a disaster???
Never seen so much excuse being given for a film…
Anyways, Pushpa isn’t having any issues Day 12 or day 18…
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January 4, 2022 at 5:50 PM
Zero’s day 12 was a New Year weekend, 83 isn’t. Zero did not release in the middle of a pandemic with a spike in cases, 83 did. Zero tanked overseas, 83 hasn’t. Never seen such pointless excuses being given to drag down a well made film.
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January 4, 2022 at 6:02 PM
Zero’s Day 12 was New Year — a holiday, with no restrictions or curfews or lockdowns in place.
For someone who works with data, you are pretty poor at interpretation of data. As well as dates in general.
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January 4, 2022 at 6:07 PM
As someone wise once said, “Never attribute to malice that what can be attributed to incompetence”.
Or Occam’s razor, if you like.
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January 4, 2022 at 6:20 PM
Zero was a disaster, you want to compare 83 with a disaster movie?
**Edited**
I will compare numbers correctly when it makes sense, not going to sit hear trying to justify 83 is success by comparing it to a movie that most consider disaster.
How does 83 New Year Day number looks against Dangal New Years day number? Which again is a dumb comparison cause the situation isn’t same. Comparing blockbuster movie to an average earner at best (which is what 83 is).
How is Pushpa Day 18th number looking against 83?
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January 4, 2022 at 6:27 PM
**Edited**, KRK and BOI are calling 83 a disaster, so yes, I had to compare and show what a real disaster looks like.
**Edited**
Pushpa’s day 18 is not even 1 crore greater than 83’s and the latter is actually going to be the HGOTY in the overseas territory.
Oh, and by the way, Pushpa is a FLOP in AP — the place and the industry it came from. Let’s talk about that too.
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January 4, 2022 at 6:30 PM
No one is disputing Pushpa’s box office run. The dispute is against the genuine above average decent run of a well made film like 83 (sans any semi naked item songs and overt melodrama associated with most Hindi-Telugu mass entertainers nowadays) being passed off as a disaster or a flop.
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January 4, 2022 at 6:41 PM
**Edited**, here’s data for TOH as well:
Day 8 2.85 cr.
Day 9 1.34 cr.
Day 10 1.75 cr.
This is how films collapse, in case they are REJECTED by the audience.
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January 4, 2022 at 6:49 PM
Again, you’re comparing 83 against disaster, collapsed movies.
Did i mention anywhere that 83 is a disaster movie? Go read my posts in previous thread too, i’ve said it’s holding well.
**Edited**…
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January 4, 2022 at 7:00 PM
**Edited**
I responded to Shivaay’s post, as far as I recall. This was in response to a comment that said “all movies make money during the New Year”. **Edited**
And please, just by repeating a lie a million times doesn’t make that lie the truth.
If I HATED SRK, that would imply I cared about him. Cared enough to hate him. The truth is, I don’t really care about stars, in general. I do care about good actors though.
Go and check my reviews and see what rating I’ve given to films like Haseen Dilruba. And how much I’ve praised Vikrant Massey in it.
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January 4, 2022 at 6:51 PM
I’m calling 83 as what most have, decent collection that got lucked out due to 83 postponing. that’s it, nothing more, nothing less.
**Edited**
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January 4, 2022 at 6:56 PM
Collapsed TOH made about 150 crore…
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January 4, 2022 at 7:04 PM
Yeah, with the biggest festival holiday of the year, without any competition from Hollywood or a massy entertainer from the South. And without curfews, restrictions and shutdowns.
Not to mention the biggest market in India working at 50% capacity. And markets not going into further restrictions with each passing day.
**Edited**
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January 4, 2022 at 7:02 PM
**Edited**. It’s just films. You or I are not going to have an extra slice of bread or lose a slice of bread regardless of how anyone films does..
I was perhaps like you over 15 years ago, during NG days **Edited** 🙂
**Edited**
Go to my posts from 10 years ago, i have always said, why bring BOI in discussion, why give them publicity? they’re in business partially due to people here talking about it. BOI hasn’t changed at all, no impact to them at all…
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January 4, 2022 at 7:09 PM
I wouldn’t speak a word against BOI were it not for the fact that they are taken seriously. By people like Karan Johar and Anupama Chopra (Film Companion).
I’m not trying to fight for 83 ONLY. It’s a fight for films that are good in terms of content and are pulled down mercilessly by the likes of BOI.
That includes films like Dil Se and Kabhi Haan Kabhi Naa as well.
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January 5, 2022 at 3:33 AM
BOI should be called out. Just like everything that is wrong gets called out. They are at it again today.
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January 5, 2022 at 9:49 AM
Agree, BOI should get called out but what is it accomplishing? NOTHING… Nothing at all…
They’re getting free publicity from people who talks about them constantly.
By they way, do you remember there was another boxoffice site which was anit-srk and pro-bachchan, i think it was called IBOS or somehting like that. what ever happened to that site?
BOI puts up questionable commentary but their number are pretty much same as all other sites.
IBOS used to deduct a core or two every week from srk film.
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January 4, 2022 at 5:36 PM
10 Most Wahiyat films of 2021. Video by KRK!
He is talking strictly in terms of box office (budget Vs. recovery)…
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January 5, 2022 at 12:03 AM
he didnt mention Salman khan for the 4th film..due to legal issues.
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January 5, 2022 at 9:45 AM
yeah, instead called him Budhao.
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January 4, 2022 at 9:53 PM
Pushpa likely to release in Amazon on 07th Jan. This deal was struck when RRR was still releasing. IMO makers should renegotiate for an extra 2 week theatrical run
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January 5, 2022 at 12:07 AM
pushpa hindi will come later on Amazon. This should be fine
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January 4, 2022 at 11:18 PM
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/hindi/bollywood/news/aanand-l-rai-zero-was-not-a-failure-but-a-lesson-learnt/articleshow/88701480.cms
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January 5, 2022 at 12:11 AM
Watched Pushpa the Rise – Part 1 (Hindi) last night.
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January 5, 2022 at 2:12 AM
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IT’S OFFICIAL: ‘RADHE SHYAM’ POSTPONED… #Jersey, #RRR, #Prithviraj… #RadheShyam is the fourth prominent title to be postponed… #RadheShyamPostponed OFFICIAL STATEMENT…
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January 5, 2022 at 4:53 AM
https://ksboxoffice.com/jai-santoshi-maa-1975-movie-box-office-collection-budget-and-unknown-facts/movies-facts/
Release Date – 30 May 1975
Budget 30 Lakh
1st Day Collection 4 Lakh
1st Week Collection 32 Lakh
India Net Box Office Collection 5 cr
Worldwide Collection 8 cr
Verdict All Time Blockbuster
2nd Highest Grossing Film of 1975
1) This film was clash with Sholay film and both films proved to be an all-time blockbuster at the box office.
2) Anita Guha played Santoshi Mata in this film. She played the role of God in many devotional films.
3) After the success of this film, people used to put a long line outside the house of Anita Guha to see her . If Anita Guha could be seen anywhere, people would touch her feet and take her blessings.
4) Due to the low theater at that time, people used to reach to see this film from far away and also put a long line to watch the film.
5) Wherever this film was released in the theater. People used to distribute prasad there. People used to take off their shoes and slippers before going inside the theater.
6) Santoshi Maa was very popular among the people since this film.
7) A remake of this film was made in 2006 with the same title. But the film flopped badly at the box office.
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January 5, 2022 at 4:58 AM
Sindhutai Sapkal’s Biopic Maker Ananth Mahadevan Remembers the Legend: She Was Everyone’s Mother and an Angel
https://www.news18.com/news/movies/sindhutai-sapkals-biopic-maker-ananth-mahadevan-remembers-the-legend-she-was-everyones-mother-and-an-angel-4624721.html
She would call me ‘Bala’ which in Marathi means son and I would refer to her as Mai which means mother. We actually shared a mother and son relationship. We were in touch. Whenever she was in Mumbai she would call and meet me and whenever I was in Pune, I would go to meet her. Mr. Amitabh Bachchan was present during the music launch of the film and later she was also a part of one the episodes of Kaun Banega Crorepati. She would always call me on Gudi Padwa. The last time I spoke to her was last April on Gudi Padwa. She was legendary and a pillar of strength. I am still trying to come to terms with her death. She was sabki mai and a farishta (angel).
(As told to News18.com)
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January 5, 2022 at 6:01 AM
Good to see Reliance and PVR not fudge numbers in order to desperately reach the 100 cr mark. Hopefully the film reaches there by Sunday.
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January 5, 2022 at 8:13 AM
Valimai also postponed.
https://www.bollywoodhungama.com/news/bollywood/breaking-ajith-kumars-much-awaited-action-thriller-valimai-postponed-tamil-nadu-cinemas-shut/
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January 5, 2022 at 8:15 AM
As things stand today, Aditya Chopra is planning to bring Pathan on October 2 and Tiger 3 on Christmas, but only time shall say what happens next. Another delay in the release calendar of already announced films might change everything as both the biggies could even be pushed to 2023. “Adi is ethical and believes that films long in waiting deserve a shot at release before the ones that went on floors in the middle of pandemic. So he will wait and watch.”
https://www.bollywoodhungama.com/news/bollywood/scoop-shah-rukh-khans-pathan-delays-salman-khans-tiger-3-release-date-heres/
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January 5, 2022 at 9:01 AM
LSC likely to take the Christmas slot now after all the current delays.
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January 5, 2022 at 9:55 AM
Things are getting crazy, all producers will have to play nice when films are able to release.
RRR and LCS should get the first preference for a good release date since the films are ready and they’re big budget film, along with few others. Pathan and Tiger are still being made and they shouldn’t rush knowing the condition.
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January 5, 2022 at 1:02 PM
Aamir will probably drag the post production of LSC for another year. Pathan and Tiger will probably get 2023 release dates.
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January 5, 2022 at 8:34 AM
There have been only 4 hits at Indian box office:
Kong vs Godzilla
Sooryavanshi
Spiderman
Pushpa
Now call them superhits or blockbusters, it does not matter. Similarly fighting over spoilt milk like 83, Bellbottom or Antim is also pointless. Apart from above 4, no other film has worked at BO. Incidentally only 1 bollywood film, 1 southie and 2 Hollywood films.
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January 5, 2022 at 9:15 AM
Bell Bottom, 83 and No Time to Die have all worked reasonably decently under respective circumstances with an Average verdict. 83 is a Hit overseas as well.
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January 5, 2022 at 9:40 AM
In Telugu, there were Krack, Uppena, Jathi Ratnalu-small films that became surprise blockbusters. Akhanda and Love Story superhits and Vakeel Saab, Shyam Singha Roy were hits.
Tamil also, there was the blockbuster Master, superhit Maanaadu and more.
The Covid restrictions simply constricted the Malayalam and Hindi markets.
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January 5, 2022 at 12:56 PM
There may be other regional hits, but only those 4 films worked at all india level.
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January 5, 2022 at 9:58 AM
Pushpa: 3rd Tuesday Collection, Dream Run Continues:
2.5 Cr Tuesday collection, 68.15 Total…
https://www.addatoday.com/2022/01/pushpa-hindi-third-tuesday-box-office.html
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January 5, 2022 at 10:51 AM
Anyone in Northeast part of US, drive carefully if you go out. It has been a rough morning.
What takes me 15 to 20 minutes, took me 2 hours due to blocked highway.
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January 5, 2022 at 11:43 AM
Rotomac owner Vikram Kothari dies in freak accident:
https://www.rediff.com/business/report/rotomac-owner-vikram-kothari-dies-in-freak-accident/20220105.htm
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January 5, 2022 at 12:02 PM
https://www.rediff.com/movies/special/suparn-verma-the-era-of-the-heroes-is-over/20220105.htm
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January 5, 2022 at 12:32 PM
https://indianexpress.com/article/entertainment/opinion-entertainment/kamal-haasan-ranveer-singh-83-box-office-performance-allu-arjun-pushpa-7707458/
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January 5, 2022 at 12:51 PM
“Every time a film can’t be a success (at the box office). What kind of film is that? Will it live even after I’m gone? If yes, then that’s a successful film,” Kamal had said once.
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January 5, 2022 at 2:23 PM
Amusing that I’ve never heard such scathing words for an SRK starring URBAN sports drama film called Chak De India which in itself never crossed >1.4 Cr footfalls despite the star being at his peak in 2007. The likes of DIL Chahta Hai, Baby, Neerja and 83 have been made to sound like horrendous films by BOI 😉
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January 5, 2022 at 4:03 PM
The kinda filth completely missing from films like Baby, Airlift, Lakshya and 83 that are essential to make cinema like Pushpa Chameli and Sooryavanshi super hits among our esteemed audience 😉
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January 5, 2022 at 4:24 PM
Gadar was a love story. Hope gadar2 remains same.
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January 5, 2022 at 5:32 PM
I loved Gadar, not sure how Gadar 2 will come out but Anil Sharma surprises when least expected (Hukumat, Gadar being two example)
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January 5, 2022 at 5:56 PM
Recall value of Gadar is still high. So a sequal might work if made well. This might be Sunny Deol’s last chance as a lead.
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January 6, 2022 at 3:46 AM
The element of patriotism might prevail once again. There was a change in the mood of the nation for long spell, from 2004/2005 onwards where toning down the hostilities between the 2 nations were the talk of the day. It reflected in Indian cinema. Films like Main Houn Na, Veer Zara, based on brotherhood of the nations were being made, keeping a target Pakistani audience in UK and Dubai in mind. And they did quite well.
But the mood has changed again during the last few years. Anil Sharma delivered a hard hitting drama epic with a very well etched-out love story back then and it created a never-seen-before kind of frenzy.
Both him and Sunny Deol are past their peak. But who knows? The mood in the country has changed again, now akin to those times when the first part released.
A hard hitting epic may work again. The first part was a hurricane, though. Gripped the nation in a way I have not seen again since then.
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January 5, 2022 at 6:23 PM
His is an outdated storytelling style. Best suited to to the 80s
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January 6, 2022 at 6:27 AM
Gadar in itself was a terrible film. I’m sure Gadar 2 will be no different. Unsurprising to see Lousy Rathore fans adore Gadar 😉
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January 5, 2022 at 4:48 PM
83 is a bugger disaster than Zero.
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January 5, 2022 at 5:32 PM
Not sure why BOI is singled out and diatribe of Taran and Komal ignored? Both are saying 83 is a bigger disaster than Zero.
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January 5, 2022 at 5:41 PM
Read the respectable comments by Komal wherein he clearly states its the budget and not the film that’s failed 83. Compare this with BOIs commentary, you’d know the difference.
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January 5, 2022 at 11:47 PM
Yes while all are giving similar verdict, the difference is the reason.
BOI says budget is not the reason, its the type of subject/concept which is not for all.
Others are saying its primarily the budget.
I think its primarily the pandemic.
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January 6, 2022 at 2:02 AM
BOI is spewing venom daily. Komal and Taran are simply more professional. There is a huge difference between them.
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January 6, 2022 at 5:01 AM
Look at words BOI uses.
Today
Pushpa went from 2.4cr to 2.2Cr which is 9% drop. They say ROCK STEADY
83 went from 1.4Cr to 1.2Cr which is 17% drop. They say FREEFALL.
It’s the exaggerated language that is deplorable. And when you manipulate words like this you are trying your hardest to be extreme rather than stating facts.
For Pushpa say it remains steady with typical fall expected.
For 83 say given it’s total collections, the daily falls are simply not helping or something like this.
They need an education in English language to stop taking extreme positions on numbers.
Anyone can rewrite their reporting to not sound condescending or plain mean.
There leading headlines are just typical of a bad news broadcaster or tabloid sensationalist headline grabbing garbage newspaper.
Imagine every country in world had to put forward there best box office site. You pro BOI fans will be running a mile to defend it. It would be laughing stock of world.
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January 6, 2022 at 6:34 AM
Its a combination of the budget going overboard due to delays, the bad release timing (2 weeks earlier made more sense) and of course the 3rd wave and consequent curfews. Its the same scenario Tenet faced in the US in 2020 (domestic flop but a global success). I cannot remember boxofficemojo or any Hollywood trade analyst go on a ranting spree against Nolan.
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January 6, 2022 at 6:58 AM
Kabir Khan is no Nolan
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January 6, 2022 at 8:56 AM
Not about Kabir not being Nolan. Its about 83 being a well made film and BOIs shocking rants. Against the same film maker whose Bajrangi was termed as the best film of the decade by the same BOI.
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January 5, 2022 at 5:47 PM
Ranveer Singh, in a recent interview with IndiaToday.in, said that a film like 83 happens once in 20 years, and the last one that saw this kind of euphoria was Aamir Khan’s Lagaan (2001). Perhaps that is where it went wrong. The creative liberties Lagaan took worked because it never claimed to be retelling history. Teen-guna lagaan – like a host of golden daffodils…ten thousand…at a glance – wasn’t about the number but stood as a symbol of oppression we could all collectively identify with. Cut to 83, when a Pakistani Army official calls up an Indian Army border base camp to inform them of a ceasefire so that the Indian jawans can listen to the match on the radio, it all feels construed, and unnecessarily.
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January 6, 2022 at 1:55 AM
Anushka Sharma confirmed to star as cricketer Jhulan Goswami in Netflix movie Chakda ‘Xpress, teaser unveiled
Anushka Sharma confirmed to star as cricketer Jhulan Goswami in Netflix movie Chakda ‘Xpress, teaser unveiled
Bpllywood Hungama
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January 6, 2022 at 1:56 AM
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January 6, 2022 at 2:35 AM
Couldn’t recognise Anushka. She has changed a lot.
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January 6, 2022 at 6:08 AM
so has Virat. He can’t seem to buy a run. The vegan diet is clearly not working
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January 6, 2022 at 1:59 AM
As films get postponed, lack of content might force theatres to shut down; Gaiety cinema stops showing 83 and halts operations
By -Fenil SetaCreated: Jan 6, 2022 – 10:00 AM ISTUpdated: Jan 6, 2022 – 11:31 AM IST
Satadeep continued, “Spider-Man and Pushpa have slowed down. Both these films would have done better had the Omicron not reared its ugly head. We would have no other option (but to shut). We can’t run the cinema like this. We have overhead expenses. Also, it’s better to shut down. Who’ll go through the headache of deciding what to play and whether viewers would turn up to watch the film?” He also added, “Had 83 worked, we all would have been sorted for another few weeks.”
https://www.bollywoodhungama.com/news/bollywood/films-get-postponed-lack-content-might-force-theatres-shut-gaiety-cinema-stops-showing-83-halts-operations/
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January 6, 2022 at 2:05 AM
Manisha Koirala and Sanjay Leela Bhansali re-unite for Heera Mandi after 25 years
By -Bollywood Hungama News NetworkCreated: Jan 6, 2022 – 10:03 AM IST
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January 6, 2022 at 2:12 AM
https://www.filmcompanion.in/streaming/netflix/netflix-chakda-xpress-movie-anushka-sharma-as-jhulan-goswami/
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January 6, 2022 at 2:15 AM
Holidify Co-Founder Kovid Kapoor Goes Viral For His Name
“My name is Kovid and I’m not a virus,” reads Kovid Kapoor’s bio on Twitter
https://www.ndtv.com/offbeat/holidify-co-founder-kovid-kapoor-goes-viral-for-his-name-2691989#pfrom=home-ndtv_lateststories
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January 6, 2022 at 2:17 AM
Kapil Sharma’s first-ever Netflix special ‘Kapil Sharma: I’m Not Done Yet’ to premiere on January 28, 2022
By -Bollywood Hungama News NetworkCreated: Jan 5, 2022 – 2:14 PM ISTUpdated: Jan 5, 2022 – 2:15 PM IST
https://www.bollywoodhungama.com/news/bollywood/kapil-sharmas-first-ever-netflix-special-kapil-sharma-im-not-done-yet-premiere-january-28-2022/
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January 6, 2022 at 2:26 AM
Ouch. stock markets plunging. I have become poorer by Rs. 12.5 L today 😒
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January 6, 2022 at 8:40 AM
I lost about $17k today but don’t worry, it goes back up petty fast.
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January 6, 2022 at 6:13 AM
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January 6, 2022 at 6:15 AM
#2021Recap: A to Z of Bollywood in 2021
By -Fenil SetaCreated: Jan 6, 2022 – 12:30 PM ISTUpdated: Jan 6, 2022 – 1:27 PM IST
https://www.bollywoodhungama.com/news/features/2021recap-z-bollywood-2021/
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January 6, 2022 at 6:34 AM
Yami Gautam starrer thriller A Thursday to directly release on Disney+Hotstar
By -Bollywood Hungama News NetworkCreated: Jan 6, 2022 – 1:14 PM IS
https://www.bollywoodhungama.com/news/bollywood/yami-gautam-starrer-thriller-thursday-directly-release-disneyhotstar/
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January 6, 2022 at 7:29 AM
https://boxofficeindia.com/report-details.php?articleid=6612
Highest loss maker in history. I am surprised it is not more than 100 crs frankly. A movie completely let down by its budget
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January 6, 2022 at 12:29 PM
Bombay Velvet lost 70 Cr on a budget of 100. 83 has lost a similar number on an investment of 250. Do BOI editors need to go back to elementary math? The same bunch of clowns who gave Semi Hit tags to distribution disasters like Jai Ho and Dilwale.
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January 6, 2022 at 8:01 AM
Cant understand why boi is crying as if its money is lost? Its the producers money and they are not crying this loudly. Profit and loss are part of life. Everyone cant be a rohit shetty sticking to safety and not trying to experiment. Each one to its own. Boi is crying about the loss again and again which is making me laugh. It is trying its best to make others do the same. And when others dont do the same, it cries more.
Lights off to you boi. I know you are going through SS meticulously and want to divide us into quarelling warmongers.
History is not made by people who eat 3 times a day and happy not to go for anything risky. It is made by people who are ready to starve and who are ready to climb everest in bad weather and make risky decisions. Go get a life! Or do the same thing again and again until the world ends. Just like rohit shetty. Just like Salman Khan.
Actually I have started enjoying your rants. Wiithout those rants, you are not what you are. Hope you wont change and continue to be what you are!
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January 6, 2022 at 8:10 AM
And we are living in a world where we start worrying or maybe gloating that some film failed. Looks more like crocodile tears!
Success will not make a dog become a lion and failure will not make a lion become a dog.
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January 6, 2022 at 8:45 AM
**Bro Daddy | Official Trailer**
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January 6, 2022 at 10:33 AM
Meanwhile favorite site of many, has declared Bell Bottom Disaster..I am curious about Radhe and Antim..
https://boxofficeindia.com/movie.php?movieid=6140
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January 6, 2022 at 10:39 AM
Naveen – now respond…
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January 6, 2022 at 12:51 PM
The War sequel no one asked for and everyone wants to see.😂
BTW Antim is not mentioned in Salman’s filmography nor is Sooryavanshi given a verdict.
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January 6, 2022 at 1:52 PM
Antim would be called a Flop while Sooryavanshi would be tagged a Hit. Amusing that ballsofficeindia is giving verdicts based on 2019 methodology in pandemic times. Yet having different strokes for crass masala films since as per 2019 methodology, Sooryavanshi should be nothing more than a Semi Hit.
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January 6, 2022 at 6:07 PM
I agree…atleast stick to one method. Call 83 a disaster but then Antim becomes a flop , tadap is a flop, sooryavanshi a semi hit. I am okay with this is consistently done.
But BOI is known for its inconsistent classifications. Hence i thought of not relying on their verdict.
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January 6, 2022 at 6:16 PM
BTW I’m not advocating one can’t change there mind on BOI. It’s not a given one should have a binary/ binding position on them. But 99% of your comments specifically have praised them on there opinion pieces. So I’m not buying this uturn – I’m calling you out. And I’m calling out all BOI cheerleaders.
The site is NOTHING to be proud of. Today I looked at a Deloitte paper on India film trends from 2019. Its on Google and you can search for it. All of Deloitte’s data on box office came from Bollywood Hungama or Koimoi – data and verdicts. No professional company that has proper standards would use a third class site like BOI. Total own goal or reputational risk written all over it. They would be ridiculed.
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January 6, 2022 at 6:22 PM
Click to access in-about-deloitte-economic-impact-of-the-film-television-and-osv-industry-noexp.pdf
For those interested
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January 7, 2022 at 8:36 AM
Bell Bottom and 83 are both average while everything else is a flop. Respect the audience verdict for once. Distribution losses or gains have nothing to do with the paying viewer.
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January 7, 2022 at 8:44 AM
Hahaha. OK thanks. So we’ve now entered territory of throwing economics completely out the window.
What next? You liked Antim so it’s a success?
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January 7, 2022 at 9:09 AM
@Jay-Is that for me? Antim is a poor theatrical performer. An outright flop in every aspect. And yes we need to go easy on economics in these times towards films that are biting the bullet and going for theatrical release in times when the industry is on life support.
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January 7, 2022 at 9:18 AM
I understand the sentiment but isn’t it being reserved for personal likes or dislikes rather than derivative of economics? Even I wouldn’t call Bell Bottom a disaster, I’ve said elsewhere below average or underperformed or worst case a flop is fair.
83 is looking at much bigger losses.
Here each film should be given it’s ‘actual’ verdict and then you can slide it up one notch or something.
I would like to know your ‘actual ‘ economic verdict for both Bell Bottom and 83 ignoring the external issues first.
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January 7, 2022 at 9:46 AM
Ps. I’m all for being liberal, kind and nice in these times of hardship…but let’s first get the facts correct.
What is the economic verdict for 83 and Bell Bottom. We can then take it from there.
(I know teachers dealing with this kind of stuff who have to provide a grade to students. Students who haven’t sat exams because covid situation cancelled exams. But in such cases a sensible, transparent process is followed to be fair to every student. However, in doing this the average grade will always increase. A teacher can assume a student trending at D will get to B. So they give a B. But there are always students who trended to B who end up at C because of nerves, 1 bad question. It’s not something a teacher can predict. They will get an A. Not C. Imagine being that student who got predicted less than what they are achieving…it wouldn’t happen. Hence leniency will creep in.
Here 100% there is a negative economic verdict for both 83 and Bell Bottom. It’s that reference I would like to know first. Then apply what adjustment you feel fair).
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January 7, 2022 at 10:00 AM
good points Jay.
My thought on it is more from availability Vs. sold.
The argument for most films thrown out is that if 100% capacity was available, it would have done lot more. True but at the same time how do you explain Bell Bottom collecting only like 7 to 9% in limited number of theatres?
I can understand if it was colleting 75% from the limited release than you can have that argument that more theatres would have added lot more money.
I think right now only movie you can make solid argument for is Pushpa, i think that movie would have collected lot more if there were theatre available for it and more shows.
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January 7, 2022 at 10:09 AM
Yes covid impact is much more on films that show excellent WOM. Rest can’t complain as much.
Some PVR investor data I seen recently shows average occupancy in theatres is 35%. Now I checked for other entertainment medium in UK/US like live theatres. They operate at 80-90% average. A football stadium in UK will operate at 90%+.
So I don’t buy into this restrictions stuff too much. A complete show cancellation is a legitimate negative impact though. Here you lose the 35% audience you were expected to have.
Bell Bottom opening %’s for occupancy tell you enough about it’s opening. The addatoday.com data I’m sure won’t ever have averaged above 50% throughout any morning/afternoon/evening report. So it’s hardly a great point. If it is having an impact it’s offset by having a run at cinema with restrictions too. It ends up having a longer tail…Saket’s day 1 comparison to lifetime showed 12x or something. No way would Bell Bottom have that multiplier in precovid times.
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January 7, 2022 at 10:21 AM
“Saket’s day 1 comparison to lifetime showed 12x or something. No way would Bell Bottom have that multiplier in precovid times.”
Of course not.
That’s why i always say that right now, we really don’t good sense of anything when it comes to boxoffice because everything is so fluid.
And everyone can manipulate data how they want. Like someone had put up an argument few days ago that Pushpa collection for past Tuesday was only 1 Cr more than 83. But when you look in context of 83 made 1.5 Cr and Pushpa made 2.5 Cr, you have one movie collecting 60% more than the other film.
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January 7, 2022 at 10:31 AM
And 83 is multiples times a bigger film than Pushpa (in this market) and also earlier in it’s run…
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January 7, 2022 at 3:39 PM
Even by BOIs vague logic, 83 has recovered 180+ on a budget of 250 Cr. The loss margin is under 30% in a worst case scenario which makes it eligible for a Below Average verdict even in normal times. Its certainly an Average performer in present times, all things considered. The same cannot be said about Bell Bottom since its adjusted collection would hardly be at par with a Below average Gold.
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January 6, 2022 at 5:11 PM
Following is how i see the use of different sources-
Taran Adarsh for box office verdict / classification. He is most consistent. So will go by his verdict, though i still see him using pre pandemic system of judging based on Distributor’s cost.
BOI is good for early box office numbers and response because theirs is fastest and usually different from Producers total, which Taran takes. The way BOI is going hard on 83, there seems to be an agenda which noone is ready to accept.
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January 6, 2022 at 5:31 PM
BOIs numbers are manipulated as per their agenda. There’s no ways on earth that they have access to numbers before the producers or distribution sources. Unless there’s obvious proof of fudging from the production end, we need to stick to Taran’s/BollywoodHungama numbers. And this entire hoax of reporting footfalls to the last possible decimal is a joke!
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January 7, 2022 at 8:06 AM
You admit that krrish 3 gross is manupulated by boi?
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January 7, 2022 at 8:39 AM
Krish 3 did 190 cr+ net all India in Hindi. Boi manipulated the numbers down to 175 systematically week after week.
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January 10, 2022 at 7:51 AM
Hrithik Roshan said krrish 3 hindi version grossed 233cr.So you disagree with him?
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January 6, 2022 at 5:32 PM
So basically cherry pick. You still haven’t found a single source soliciting Bell Bottom as a HIT. The search goes on. At least we know your dearest BOI thinks it’s a disaster. Very harsh verdict.
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January 6, 2022 at 5:43 PM
What i am doing is a prepandemic adjustment for the movies, offsetting the loss in theatricals with gain from OTT offer. I beleive just like inflation adjustment or holiday / non holiday release difference, this is important to do specially while giving a verdict.
Unfortunately this suggestion of mine seems to be my way of looking at things across all movies incl Bell Bottoms, Antim, Tadap or 83. I dont see any one else looking at it in this way.
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January 6, 2022 at 6:07 PM
There is no clear cut way to judge success of a movie on OTT. Web series yes, if they commission a new one it’s a good indicator. Unless you can clearly calculate a subscriber increase related to a specific release – it’s impossible.
Frankly the OTT deals are not struck to offset distributor losses. Distributors don’t get these in their pockets.
You are deriving a producer wise profit profile. Even in prepandemic world many producers tabled profits – it doesn’t make those films hit films. A successful film surely has to succeed against the cost of distribution. Your method doesn’t cover account for a distribution loss in verdict.
I mean did you use to contaminate satellite deals to offset distribution costs before covid? Think of OTT deal is iteration of satellite deal not theatrical release deal.
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January 6, 2022 at 5:46 PM
And no cherry picking is Khan fan’s love. They love to put down movies of all other actors who come on the way of their favourites. I am not one of them. 🥳
I have been consistely using BOI numbers and Taran’s classification. If you go through the thread we have where i exposed how F1 classification is inconsistent.
So despite some flaws with everyone, usually
boi are right with their initial numbers and Taran with boxoffice verdict.
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January 6, 2022 at 6:03 PM
So yes, BOI is not entirely crap. They have certain strengths in getting the numbers. Producers also rely on their numbers on several occasions where they wait for BOI to release its figures before producers release theirs.
However BOI’s commentry is embarrassing. Their views of high concept films is not something anyone in the industry agrees to.
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January 6, 2022 at 6:11 PM
It’s rubbish for decades now. You are choosing to see it now. But such articles have been posted 100s of times here but you’ve championed them and many times praised there articles. Unclear what has led to your u turn.
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January 6, 2022 at 6:10 PM
but there will not be any distributor loss if movies are released on commission.
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January 6, 2022 at 6:12 PM
Proof? Evidence?
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January 6, 2022 at 6:38 PM
Bell Bottom released on commission by Pens Entertainment (distributor)
https://www.bollywoodhungama.com/news/bollywood/revealed-final-agreed-distributor-multiplex-revenue-share-terms-akshay-kumar-starrer-bell-bottom/
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January 7, 2022 at 1:55 AM
It says nothing on commission basis here?
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January 7, 2022 at 3:20 AM
Ex. 100 RS to ticket price
30% entertainment tax
70 rs shared in 55:45ratio between multiplex and producer (40 rs to cinema and 30 rs to producer or distributor basically the person dealing with the cinema chain.)
Week 2 the ratio becomes 45:55 between cinema and producer/distributor
Week 3 – 35:65
These ratios are not fixed and keep changing. If studio has a strong movie like YRF or Dharma, they can command a higher share from the cinema as per their terms agreed pre release as per buzz .
All above indicates that it’s a difficult business to be in due to high taxes and secondly the producer is rewarded with a higher share if his movie sticks around in forthcoming weeks post release clearly rewarding content.
Above from Quora. Typically this implies a cost to distribute. The Bollywood Hungama link basically suggests same without providing distribution cost.
https://boxofficeworldwide.com/movies-latest-news/salman-khan-aayush-sharmas-antim-will-be-released-on-a-commission-basis-by-zee-studios/
Antim above maybe sold on commission basis as explained.
Quote ‘Zee has decided to release the film as a distributor across the globe on a commission basis. They will be charging approximately 8% to 10% standard commission meaning, take away 8% to 10% of the distributor share leaving the rest for SKF.’
Commission model is looking like standard 8-10% take home of DS. So in Bell Bottom case are you implying from 32Cr after entertainment tax Bell Bottom gets 10% of distribution share.
I will leave it to likes of Krish, Rahul etc who might be better placed to explain this better.
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January 7, 2022 at 4:46 AM
Type in Bell Bottom hit or flop in Google and multiple articles call it flop or disaster. There are many unauthenticated iterations everywhere on Web.
https://streamingdue.com/bell-bottom-hit-of-flop/ = Disaster
https://www.koimoi.com/box-office/hits-flops/bollywood-box-office-verdict-and-collections-2021-koimoi/ = Flop
BOI = disaster
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January 6, 2022 at 6:41 PM
When everyone from distributors to exhibitors are cheering and happy ….how can a movie not be a HIT?
https://www.wionews.com/entertainment/bollywood/news-%E2%80%98bellbottom%E2%80%99-theatrical-release-amid-covid-19-brings-cheer-to-distributors-exhibitors-410278
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January 7, 2022 at 8:02 AM
Bell bottom is a hit because it made 65cr profit.
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January 7, 2022 at 8:12 AM
This website says Bell bottom is a hit.
https://streamingdue.com/bell-bottom-hit-of-flop/
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January 7, 2022 at 8:18 AM
That is movie verdict.
Box office verdict is disaster…
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January 6, 2022 at 9:23 PM
#BellBottom is a HIT
🛎Production cost = 50 cr
🛎Print and Advt cost = 10 cr
💥#AkshayKumar fee = 100 cr
🍺UK Subsidy = 20 cr
Total cost = 160 – 20 = 140 cr
Revenue-
⭐Satellite & Digital and other rights: 140 Crores
⭐Theatrical share – 15 cr
Total Rev = 165 cr
Profit = 15 cr
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January 6, 2022 at 9:27 PM
Pre pandemic this would have been below average. However considering the pandemic and overall industry scenario and how they benefited, it would not be wrong to call Bell Bottom a hit.
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January 7, 2022 at 9:05 AM
Shouldn’t the same apply to 83?
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January 7, 2022 at 9:15 AM
Yes it should. Have been saying it all along.
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January 7, 2022 at 12:45 AM
140 + 15 = 165? Kaise?
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January 7, 2022 at 1:36 AM
My mistake, it should be 155.
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January 7, 2022 at 2:55 AM
so as per your numbers, it’s made a loss of 5 cr. As per my understanding it is a much bigger loss maker than that. How can anyone with even a little bit sanity call it a hit??
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January 7, 2022 at 3:21 AM
no, profit of 15 cr.
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January 7, 2022 at 2:57 AM
UK subsidy kya hai? BB was never shot in UK, to yeh 83 ka subsidy yahan laga rahe ho kya?
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January 7, 2022 at 3:20 AM
BB was mostly shot in UK, i think in Scotland.
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January 7, 2022 at 3:28 AM
Glasgow I think?
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January 7, 2022 at 3:33 AM
If one shoots a significant portion of their movie in UK and the movie gets a proper theatrical release for atleast 2 weeks then UK government gives a major subsidy on the cost incurred.
One of the major reason why Bell Bottoms was release was to get this subsidy. If it had gone directly to OTT, then subsidy was not possible.
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January 7, 2022 at 3:42 AM
In fact, even 83 got a subsidy from the UK Government. Himesh Mankad refers to this in his article:
https://www.pinkvilla.com/entertainment/box-office/why-ranveer-singh-s-83-theatrical-flop-decoding-what-didn-t-work-kabir-khan-directed-biopic-982075?124
“The makers fetched approximately Rs 150 crore from non-theatrical sources, including the rebate from UK government, leaving Rs 130 crore to recover from theatrical medium. In a nutshell, the film had to clock Rs 230 crore in the domestic belt and 60 crore in the overseas market to hit the breakeven mark. As things stand today, 83 is looking to collect a domestic share of Rs 55 to 60 crore, whereas the overseas share is expected to be in the range of Rs 26 to 28 crore.”
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January 7, 2022 at 7:49 AM
Akshay Kumar won’t take 100cr for a low budget film like bell bottom.He will take 50cr-60cr.
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January 7, 2022 at 8:17 AM
As he takes profit share, he might not taoe 100 cr, however we really dont know. So we have to tale his market value even though knowing well that his wont be 100 cr.
However despite this Bell Bottom is in green. Not a big profit but considering the scenario then, prodicers would take it.
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January 7, 2022 at 8:20 AM
Again you are talking ‘producer’ profit. 99% of films in India the producer turns in a profit.
Talk about theatrical revenue vs theatrical cost…
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January 7, 2022 at 8:28 AM
What do you mean by theatrical cost?
Its already covered in 140 cr cost.
🛎Production cost = 50 cr
🛎Print and Advt cost = 10 cr
💥#AkshayKumar fee = 100 cr (Market value)
🍺UK Subsidy = 20 cr
Total cost = 160 – 20 = 140 cr
Revenue-
⭐Satellite & Digital and other rights: 140 Crores
⭐Theatrical share – 15 cr
Total Rev = 155 cr
Profit = 15 cr
Verdict- HIT
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January 7, 2022 at 8:32 AM
Oh so no distributor made a loss? They all made money? Have you forgotten how box office works?
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January 7, 2022 at 8:36 AM
Now onus is on to those who claim Bell Bottom is a flop or disaster to give their numbers.
BOI will reverse their decision because Taran and Komal both have called Bell Bottom a success.
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January 7, 2022 at 8:37 AM
Yes, no distributor made loss for Bell Bottom.
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January 7, 2022 at 8:47 AM
For Bell Bottom, Distributors were sharing the profits with producers.
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January 7, 2022 at 8:49 AM
Exhibitors got nothing?
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January 7, 2022 at 9:05 AM
They did. Check my numbers or give yours.
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January 7, 2022 at 9:22 AM
I don’t need to. The verdict is out on Koimoi, BOI…Taran or Bollywood Hungama has no verdict. Komal you can wait for FI classification.
All other sites you can see are saying flop or disaster.
I don’t know what you’re trying to pull by aggregating OTT revenue against distributor losses. No one in past would aggregate satellite revenue against distributor losses otherwise every film is in profit zone. LOL.
Heck which producer has lost money???
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January 7, 2022 at 7:51 AM
Akshay Kumar won’t take 100cr for a low budget film like bell bottom.He will take 50cr-60cr.
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January 7, 2022 at 8:02 AM
Is there a way to access old NG pages? There was a post on Iruvar which drew me to the site. Would like to revist that.
Thanks
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January 7, 2022 at 7:55 AM
Bel bottom made 65cr profit.
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January 7, 2022 at 8:19 AM
So are you suggesting Akshay and producers (Bhagnanis) has 50-50% in profit.
Only then a 15 cr profit + 100 cr i have talen as Akki’s fee gets added up to 115 cr and then they split?
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January 6, 2022 at 6:30 PM
I’m no fan of Taran Adarsh because he mixes business with film reviews interchangeably. But at least he shared publicly centre wise data in past. You could use it to draw some conclusions or do some checks with. Komal also started giving out data precovid but you had to pay for it.
BOI in mid 00s did present ‘some’ data but now it shares very little. Surprised how such smart people blindly follow a third rate site.
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January 7, 2022 at 9:23 AM
Not just third rate site, just about everyone is following it.
What’s the source of most of BO discussion here?
I say everyone should just ignore BOI site. And maybe a year from now or two years from now, they’ll die down. If everyone keeps talking about it, keeps referencing it, than it’s not going anywhere. Case in point, we’re talking about BOI same way we did 10 years ago. Who’s the winner here???
BOI, they’re benefiting from it.
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January 7, 2022 at 9:29 AM
I totally understand about exposing them but haven’t we’ve been doing that for 15 years?
What has been accomplished if you’re still in same position and BOI is doing what it has been doing 15 years ago?
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January 7, 2022 at 9:37 AM
Let them benefit. It’s not my concern.
If I feel I see a wrong I’m not going to sweep it under the carpet and let it carry on.
What standard am I setting for myself.
Now imagine you have a child who slaps a kid at school. You do nothing? He keeps doing it. You do nothing?
I’ve seen you call out things happening in India and imagine someone said ‘Z stop talking about it, it won’t change it’…is that appropriate?
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January 7, 2022 at 10:41 AM
I get your point, but my kid doing something bad would have consequences which can impact my/his life and someone else.
Same with me bringing up happening in India like Rape, corruption, etc… It impacts people lives.
I would like to believe that BOI writeups is not causing major concern for the world and it’s safety.
For me, personally, BOI writeups does absolutely nothing to my life or cause any major concern for world hence i could careless about them and will not give them a second of my life.
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January 7, 2022 at 10:44 AM
Agree. But I’m too stubborn or stupid to not stop.
BOI unfortunately does bring out stupidity of others. I am providing a free service to enlighten them and prepare them for life.
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January 7, 2022 at 1:21 AM
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January 7, 2022 at 4:07 AM
YRF postpones Delhi schedule of Salman Khan and Katrina Kaif starrer Tiger 3 due to surge in COVID-19 cases
By -Bollywood Hungama News NetworkCreated: Jan 7, 2022 – 10:35 AM ISTUpdated: Jan 7, 2022 – 11:19 AM IST
https://www.bollywoodhungama.com/news/bollywood/yrf-postpones-delhi-schedule-salman-khan-katrina-kaif-starrer-tiger-3-due-surge-covid-19-cases/
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January 7, 2022 at 10:32 AM
Aayush Sharma NO LONGER a part of Salman Khan’s Kabhi Eid Kabhi Diwali – wants to do main lead
Bollywood Hungama had previously reported that Aayush Sharma will be joining the cast of Salman Khan and Sajid Nadiadwala’s upcoming collaboration, Kabhi Eid Kabhi Diwali. However, we can now confirm that Aayush Sharma is no longer a part of this action comedy, which stars Pooja Hegde as Salman’s love interest.
“After being appreciated in Antim, Aayush has taken this decision to not take up character roles in big films. Salman too feels the same, as the track of Aayush in Kabhi Eid Kabhi Diwali was not a significant one. He was to play the role of Salman’s younger brother, though the entire film revolved around Salman’s character,” a source told Bollywood Hungama. The source also added that Salman’s other protégé; Zaheer Iqbal will however continue being a part of Kabhi Eid Kabhi Diwali.
“Two more actors will come on board to play key roles in this Farhad Samji directed action comedy. The casting work is currently going on in full swing as the movie will take off by the end of February,” the source further told us. Meanwhile, South Superstar Venkatesh has come on board to play the parallel lead to Salman Khan in Kabhi Eid Kabhi Diwali.
His character has been kept under wraps for now; however, we heard that a top Southern actress will soon join the cast to play the romantic lead alongside Venky. Kabhi Eid Kabhi Diwali is a reunion of Salman with Sajid after the blockbuster, Kick, and we trust the duo to deliver big yet again with this high octane commercial entertainer.
https://www.bollywoodhungama.com/news/bollywood/aayush-sharma-no-longer-part-salman-khans-kabhi-eid-kabhi-diwali-wants-main-lead/
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January 7, 2022 at 10:41 AM
Watching Pushpa in telugu. I am quite familiar with that slang.
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January 7, 2022 at 11:40 AM
It’s out on Amazon?
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January 7, 2022 at 12:46 PM
Yes.
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January 7, 2022 at 1:07 PM
AWESOME…
Will watch it tonight.
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January 7, 2022 at 10:44 AM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-27198480
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January 7, 2022 at 12:49 PM
Sidney Poitier, Hollywood’s First Major Black Movie Star, Dies At 94
Sidney Poitier, who held dual US and Bahamian nationality, was “an icon, a hero, a mentor, a fighter, a national treasure,” Deputy Prime Minister Chester Cooper said on his official Facebook page.
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January 7, 2022 at 1:59 PM
RIP, Legend.
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January 7, 2022 at 2:14 PM
Brilliant actor. A true legend!
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January 7, 2022 at 12:52 PM
Renowned Ad Man and journalist Gerson Da Cunha passed away. He died on Friday at the age of 92. He was a multi-faceted personality who began his journey as a journalist with Press Trust India and went on to join the advertising industry. He also starred in a few Bollywood movies.
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January 7, 2022 at 2:17 PM
Here’s something for BOI to ponder:
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January 7, 2022 at 2:17 PM
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January 7, 2022 at 2:44 PM
High time India looked purely at gross India collections and overseas. This region by region split and verdicts are laughable.
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January 7, 2022 at 5:53 PM
“Domestic collections” should only be for the original language version, Telugu in Pushpa’s case, Hindi in Sooryavanshi’s. Anything outside of it is part of global gross (including dubbed Hindi version in Hindi circuits just like Mandarin version of Dangal in China). Hindi circuits for a dubbed Telugu film is as much as alien market as overseas. Exact reason why I believe HGOTY should be restricted to domestic market and original language alone, Sooryavanshi in 2021 (not the multi lingual Spiderman since its Hindi version barely grossed 50 Cr).
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January 7, 2022 at 6:07 PM
Agree Jay. Who cares, it’s all one India with same currency.
You can make out the intention of the person who wrote it based his comment that Pushpa content doesn’t match KGF. He should work for BOI 🙂
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January 8, 2022 at 4:09 AM
Collections are always language vs language, not currency vs currency. A change of language or a dubbing changes the entire essence and target audience of the original.
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January 7, 2022 at 6:12 PM
Just curious how much kgf had collected all India and how much pushpa collected so far?
Also how much extra do we add to pushpa total for covid, limited screen space, night curfew etc…
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January 7, 2022 at 6:48 PM
Sorry this outside of the discussion thread.
So sad to hear so many single screen theaters getting closed.
If you are from Bengaluru or lived there..Santosh/Nartaki are very popular and main centers for lot of big Bollywood and Kannda movies..Have watched lot of Big B movies there growing up there..
https://www.deccanherald.com/special-features/curtains-coming-down-on-theatres-1069058.html
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January 7, 2022 at 8:48 PM
Sad news.
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January 7, 2022 at 10:22 PM
Sad…remember watching several movies at Santosh and Nartaki when i was in Bengaluru.
Nartaki had all the awards of golden jubilees of 60s and 70s in the foyer area.
The entire Majestic area in Bengaluru had many cinema halls. I still remember watching 2 back to back movies as theatres were just across the street from one another or mere 2-3 blocks away. They were pretty well managed too.
The theatrical world has changed now.
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January 7, 2022 at 10:25 PM
Finally on Bell Bottoms, no matter what my or your opinion is, if BOI or Taran classifies a movie we have to take its verdict.
Till Taran gives his, we have to consider Bell Bottom as a disaster as per BOI.
This would be unfortunate because it was cheered widely by all exhibitors and distributors for its performance at box office. However an Akshay Kumar movie doing 32 cr nett does make it sound like a disaster. So be it.
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January 8, 2022 at 7:08 AM
So i’m sure you consider Ra1 as a Hit since Taran never gave a verdict & ballsofficeindia called it a Hit 😉
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January 8, 2022 at 12:10 AM
2023 release
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January 8, 2022 at 1:32 AM
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January 8, 2022 at 1:41 AM
Looop Lapeta starring Taapsee Pannu and Tahir Raj Bhasin to premiere on February 4 on Netflix
By -Bollywood Hungama News NetworkCreated: Jan 8, 2022 – 10:15 AM ISTUpdated: Jan 8, 2022 – 11:05 AM IST
The upcoming comedy thriller starring Taapsee Pannu and Tahir Raj Bhasin is all set to hit Netflix on 4th February 2022. Looop Lapeta promises to be an adventurous ride through a sticky situation where a girlfriend is on a mission to rescue her boyfriend. As the plot unfolds, a series of events constantly prompts the lovers to make choices that define their future.
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January 8, 2022 at 1:50 AM
SS Rajamouli signs for Rs 180 Cr Debts
By Telugu360 -January 7, 20220
https://www.telugu360.com/ss-rajamouli-signs-for-rs-180-cr-debts/
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January 8, 2022 at 2:49 AM
After 2020, 2021 was the year Bollywood would love to forget (with few exceptions). Apart from box office damage, there was just a handful of films that were worth remembering. On the other hand, we saw many big stars like Salman Khan and John Abraham giving films one shouldn’t ever dare to watch. Yes, we’re talking about Radhe and Satyameva Jayate 2!
You must have got an idea above, where we’re really heading to. We have shortlisted some worst films of 2021, which should be missed at all costs. So, fasten your seat belts to know what was the worst of last ‘gloomy’ year!
The others are Bhuj and Hungama 2.
https://www.koimoi.com/bollywood-news/salman-khans-radhe-john-abrahams-satyameva-jayate-2-make-it-to-the-list-no-film-would-want-to-be-in-worst-of-2021/
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January 8, 2022 at 2:54 AM
According to a report in Mirchi9, the OTT giant has paid Rs. 22 crores for the post-theatrical digital streaming rights of the film. Well, this amount is a bit less for a blockbuster movie like Pushpa. But, it looks like the makers had done the deal before the release of the movie.
Pushpa releases on OTT: Here’s how much Amazon Prime Video paid for Allu Arjun and Rashmika Mandanna starrer
Allu Arjun and Rashmika Mandanna starrer Pushpa: The Rise Part 1 is all set to premiere on Amazon Prime Video today.
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January 8, 2022 at 6:09 AM
Watched Chandigarh kare Ashiqui. A very good film. Highly engaging with a message. Not one dull moment. If not for covid, this film would have made more than 100 crores. Ayushman and Vani along with others gave superb performances. This is also a sort of sports film. It is like a fairytale. I got 100 percent satisfaction watching this movie.
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January 8, 2022 at 8:21 AM
@Sanjana, what’s your take on Pushpa? You made a reference in regards to Tamil Slang, what’s that about?
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January 8, 2022 at 8:34 AM
I am honestly shocked how this film is doing so well in Hindi, it is in fact a flop or average at best in Telugu and underperformed in Tamil. It’s the first time I think something like this happened
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January 8, 2022 at 9:09 AM
It truly is amazing what Pushpa is doing in hindi belt. I think the 4th Friday number are around 2 CR.
I watched it last night and found it to be an okay movie. I think it connected in hindi belt because there really aren’t any decent action film that is made. I liked that they didn’t have too much violence, actions were more of like early 90s hindi films.
Fahad Fazil scenes were brilliant, both “BRAND” scenes were well shot.
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January 8, 2022 at 9:27 AM
Remarkable trend…looks like lowest first day opener to hit 100Cr…if it gets there.
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January 8, 2022 at 9:49 AM
Yeah, the trend is remarkable. I might actually watch it…just to see what the fuss is about.
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January 8, 2022 at 10:14 AM
I don’t think it will hit 100. it’s at about 75 Cr right now, maybe it’ll hit 85 Cr but still, pretty amazing.
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January 9, 2022 at 12:15 AM
which movie would have held the previous record? of lowest first day to get to a 100 cr nett?
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January 9, 2022 at 2:54 AM
Not sure…..I asked question before…my guess is Bahubali.
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January 8, 2022 at 1:04 PM
Not 1st time. Saaho didn’t do well in south markets but it did 150 crores just in Hindi dubbed version and is technically Hit. That’s phenomenal as well.
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January 8, 2022 at 10:27 PM
Saaho, yes. But it was mainly a Hindi film with mostly Hindi actors and Prabhas, its promotional campaign was also around Hindi.
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January 9, 2022 at 12:15 AM
Saaho was shot in Hindi. It was not dubbed.
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January 8, 2022 at 10:16 AM
This is INSANE…
Pushpa Hindi is showing 40 to 50% jump on Saturday compared to Friday.
https://www.addatoday.com/2022/01/pushpa-hindi-4th-saturday-23rd-day.html
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January 8, 2022 at 10:50 AM
Pushpa is a long film. I could not watch it in one go. Today I watched three fourths. Rest I will watch when I am free.
My take so far.
It is a simple story and it is raw. Once you get used to the hero, you will enjoy his antics. His backstory tugs at our hearts. We start to empathise with him from the beginning. He has a sidekick Keshava. The hero is invincible and so we are not too worried about his safety! There is a lovestory, There are some very violent scenes and mixing of so many dialects, languages. The hero mixes and matches telugu, Kannada, tamil, hindi effortlessly. The slang used is peculiar to rayalaseema. And then there is Samantha’s oo antava song.
The usual cat and mouse games with the police.
When I finish watching, I will write more about the film.
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January 8, 2022 at 11:09 AM
Yes, it’s a 3 hour film. I’m surprised i finished it in one go and never got a feeling of it being stretched.
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January 8, 2022 at 1:01 PM
I am dealing with some issues and so I cant devote fulltime. I have to attend to so many things and whenever I get time, I try to watch.
Just now finished watching Pushpa. The last scenes were quite intriguing. Making me wait for the next one. This time Shekhawat and not Kattappa. Both are bald.
But I hated to see the bald FF.
This film has its own raw charm.
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January 8, 2022 at 5:02 PM
Have not seen Telugu version, but Pushpa Hindi had a fantastic dubbing. Shreyas Talpade absolutely rocked in his voice over for Allu Arjun adding superb flair and style.
Am glad i could catch it in theatre. Had a blast.
And the item song by Samantha Prabhu was so much fun.
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January 8, 2022 at 1:23 PM
https://www.news18.com/news/movies/legendary-telugu-actor-sathyaraj-hospitalized-in-chennai-4634555.html
In the last few days several actors and actresses of the Telugu film industry have tested positive for Covid-19. Film stars such as Mahesh Babu, Manchu Manoj, Manchu Lakshmi, music director Taman, Nitin’s wife and actor Vishwak Sen among others have been infected. Actress Trisha also revealed on January 7 that she has tested positive for Covid-19. In spite of getting vaccinated and doing all she could to avoid contracting the virus, she was still affected.
Many film personalities in the Tamil movie industry have also recently contracted Coronavirus, including Kamal Haasan, Chiyaan Vikram, Vadivelu and Trisha Krishnan.
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January 8, 2022 at 1:41 PM
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January 8, 2022 at 4:39 PM
Akshay Rathi is one of the more sensible and balanced guys out there in the trade. His views have usually been very level headed but doesn’t get much traction due to the lack of clickbait opinions and hyperbolic rants.
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January 9, 2022 at 4:52 AM
Another Akshay Rathi’s genuine gem
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January 8, 2022 at 4:13 PM
83 will release on digital platforms after 8 weeks of theatrical run globally, says co-producer
Shibasish Sarkar, one of the co-producers of Ranveer Singh’s 83, said on Thursday that the film will release on OTT or TV only after an 8-week run in cinema halls.
Even as Ranveer Singh’s 83 struggles to pull cine-goers to theatres due to the rise in Omicron cases in India, the makers of the film continue to remain committed and have announced that the film will release on OTT or TV only after an 8-week run in cinema halls.
Shibasish Sarkar, the former CEO of Reliance Entertainment, who is also one of the co-producers of the Kabir Khan directorial on Thursday confirmed the same on Twitter.
He tweeted, “Film 83 will be released on Digital platforms or Satellite Television at least after 8 weeks of theatrical run globally.”
https://indianexpress.com/article/entertainment/bollywood/ranveer-singhs-83-will-release-on-digital-platforms-after-8-weeks-of-theatrical-run-7709059/
This is a good decision. With no bollywood big film releasing, 83 can earn something on a daily basis much to the annoyance of you know who.
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January 8, 2022 at 4:43 PM
Delhi-Ncr, Mumbai, Pune, Bangalore and Kolkata were its primary markets. Delhi-Ncr is completely shut while Bangalore is on a weekend curfew. So for now its just Mumbai, Pune and Kolkata that 83s gonna collect from. The rest of the Hindi circuits would aid Pushpa Chameli’s collections via taalis, seetis and front bench perverts ogling at Samantha and Rashmika.
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January 8, 2022 at 7:46 PM
Totally misdirected information in terms of regions preferring Pushpa.
Pushpa is collecting primarily from Mumbai, Pune and Gujarat circuit. However it is not doing business of 83+spiderman combined in virtually all centres.
Distributors of PushpaHindi and SpiderMan have booked screens in Hindi region over the next 2 months taking advantage of no new release.
They are eyeing 10 cr and 30 cr additional nett collection respectively.
Pushpa Hindi release on OTT is now on hold for 2 months.
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January 8, 2022 at 7:47 PM
correction – However it is ** now doing business of 83+spiderman combined in virtually all centres.
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January 9, 2022 at 12:11 AM
Odisha, MP, UP and Bihar were the primary collecting circuits as per boi initially before they changed tune and got back to being gujjuboxoffice like they always do.
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January 8, 2022 at 9:33 PM
Yes, there is lot of sleeze and female body exploitation which perhaps is attracting some sections and some demographies.
I could not stand many of those scenes and terrible violence. There is no difference between item girl and the heroine.
This film is C grade. Not even B grade. And I wonder whether Taran, Boi have seen this movie or they are simply ogling at the boxoffice only. The hero does not have any charm compared to even other charmless ones. He looks like another extra or side character. Of course it is realistic portrayal of a charmless law breaker. They cant look like Dharmendra.
My rating is 1.5.
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January 8, 2022 at 5:09 PM
This is getting murkier!!
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January 8, 2022 at 8:13 PM
https://indianexpress.com/article/entertainment/bollywood/jacqueline-fernandez-issues-statement-private-picture-with-sukesh-chandrasekhar-7713368/
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January 8, 2022 at 5:23 PM
The Sure thing
https://www.filmcompanion.in/features/bollywood-features/akshay-kumar-movies-2021-box-office-collection-the-only-sure-thing-in-bollywood-sooryavanshi-atrangi-re-bell-bottom/amp/
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January 8, 2022 at 6:58 PM
Sure thing.
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January 8, 2022 at 7:49 PM
Akshay Kumar’s model is one of a kind in the world. He is doing films at an age when many slow down.
The “right brain left brain” theory given to find how he is able to manage, in the above writeup is bang on.
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January 8, 2022 at 5:32 PM
A high class edge of the seat thriller that deserved a much better reception that it got. Amitabh Bachchan was truly mesmerizing.
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January 8, 2022 at 9:38 PM
My full review of Pushpa The Rise.
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January 9, 2022 at 2:46 AM
A like for like comparison for the films would be 2.50 crore for Pushpa and 1 crore nett for 83 on Saturday as 83 (Hindi) has collections from Andhra, Tamil Nadu, Karntaka and Kerala while Pushpa (Hindi) is hardly being screened in these areas.
https://boxofficeindia.com/report-details.php?articleid=6618
This is wrong.
According to Sacnik, Pushpa is running in 221 shows in Hyderabad on Day 24.
https://www.sacnilk.com/entertainmenttopbar/Box_Office_Collection?hl=en
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January 9, 2022 at 2:46 AM
A like for like comparison for the films would be 2.50 crore for Pushpa and 1 crore nett for 83 on Saturday as 83 (Hindi) has collections from Andhra, Tamil Nadu, Karntaka and Kerala while Pushpa (Hindi) is hardly being screened in these areas.
According to Boi.
This is wrong.
According to Sacnik, Pushpa is running in 221 shows in Hyderabad on Day 24.
https://www.sacnilk.com/entertainmenttopbar/Box_Office_Collection?hl=en
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January 9, 2022 at 10:00 AM
These jokers are so desperate to tag 83 as a disaster that now they’re down to comparing a 100 Cr pandemic grosser with Bombay Velvet.
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January 9, 2022 at 2:50 AM
A like for like comparison for the films would be 2.50 crore for Pushpa and 1 crore nett for 83 on Saturday as 83 (Hindi) has collections from Andhra, Tamil Nadu, Karntaka and Kerala while Pushpa (Hindi) is hardly being screened in these areas.
https://boxofficeindia.com/report-details.php?articleid=6618
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January 9, 2022 at 8:53 AM
83 has shown good jump on Saturday:
Collects 1.3 Cr.
https://www.addatoday.com/2022/01/83-third-saturday-day-16-box-office.html
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January 9, 2022 at 8:54 AM
Pusha shows solid jump on Saturday:
Collects 2.6 Cr.
https://www.addatoday.com/2022/01/pushpa-hindi-fourth-saturday-day-23-box.html
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January 9, 2022 at 10:02 AM
https://mobile.twitter.com/relianceent/status/1480170924552843265
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January 9, 2022 at 11:56 AM
My yearend list of Top 10 Bollywood movies is up!
Had to delay the whole thing as I was grappling with a broken foot since the beginning of the New Year.
One can apparently twist and break one’s metatarsal bone without being drunk (I don’t drink!).
Next up — the best male and female performances of 2021.
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January 9, 2022 at 12:10 PM
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January 9, 2022 at 1:05 PM
FYI he’s a huge Bhai fan.
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January 9, 2022 at 1:34 PM
Fact 1 : Mass audiences of the Hindi belt have proven to be far more receptive of southern films and their actors like Prabhas & Allu Arjun while the Telugu and Tamil masses are to reciprocate the gesture.
Fact 2 : Bollywood production houses like Dharma and Excel are more than happy to distribute southern films like Bahubali and KGF thereby making sure their dubbed Hindi versions find well over 2000 screens for release while producers down south are yet to accept the presence of dubbed versions of films like Dangal, Padmaavat and War which barely find 200-300 screens for their regional versions. Hence high quality Bollywood films like Dangal are now having to rely on dubbed Mandarin versions in China in order to outgross crass masala entertainers like Bahubali 2 on a global platform.
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January 9, 2022 at 10:46 PM
Fact 3: The Telugu and Tamil markets are at 50% of the Hindi market’s potential individually. With the restrictions, the Hindi market was only at 60% capacity, allowing equal comparisons between it and the Telugu/Tamil markets, which were open for a longer time as well.
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January 10, 2022 at 2:11 AM
Actually the seat capacity issue might be a myth, but I’m not able to figure out what exactly the Kerala box office (operating under similar constraints) offers. If Kerala box office (under stricter rules than the North) is working, then 2021 must be the worst year ever for Hindi cinema.
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January 9, 2022 at 10:47 PM
Nice
**VIKRAM VEDHA’: HRITHIK FIRST LOOK**
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January 9, 2022 at 1:56 PM
https://indianexpress.com/article/entertainment/telugu/ramesh-babu-dead-7713965/
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January 9, 2022 at 3:34 PM
Watched this for the first time tonight. Despite the mediocre VFX and an aged Chiranjeevi playing a youngster, this masala movie never feels cheap, vulgar or crass at any point in time. A powerful story narrated with fluidity and flair with some good decent performances by the support case as well. Syeraa Narasimha Reddy is how magnum opus masala cinema ought to be made on a large canvas. 7/10
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January 10, 2022 at 12:58 AM
Although Chiranjeevi is aged, the intensity he summoned is something only an older star actor can do.
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January 9, 2022 at 10:34 PM
Acting-wise , I keep these superstar in such Ranking order –
ShahRukhKhan > Aamir Khan > Hrithik Roshan > Ajay Devgan > AkshayKumar > SalmanKhan
This is over all their movies.
Few stars are few notches above in certain genres like Akshay in Comedy, Devgn in intense dramas, Salman in family drama etc.
Strictly my opinion…. what is yours ?
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January 10, 2022 at 12:02 AM
Have seen Full House episodes on reruns…
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/bob-saget-dead-65-010051209.html
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January 10, 2022 at 12:42 AM
Yes, the show with the Olsen twins. Though there were two actors, who played a single role
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January 10, 2022 at 3:10 AM
https://www.hindustantimes.com/entertainment/bollywood/you-raised-all-of-us-too-parineeti-chopra-priyanka-chopra-remember-dad-of-the-century-bob-saget-101641792208909.html
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January 10, 2022 at 3:12 AM
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/bob-saget-dies-abc-news-013800451.html
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January 10, 2022 at 12:23 AM
Golden Globes 2022 full winners list: The Power of the Dog, West Side Story and Succession win big
Golden Globes 2022 full winners list: The Power of the Dog, West Side Story and Succession emerged as the big winners with 3 trophies each.
https://indianexpress.com/article/entertainment/hollywood/golden-globes-2022-the-power-of-the-dog-succession-full-winners-list-7715315/
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January 10, 2022 at 1:48 AM
83 Box Office Day 17: Ranveer Singh Starrer Goes Past The 100 Crores Mark Across All Languages
At the limited theatres where the film is playing, at least some numbers are still coming in which has allowed the film to enter the 100 Crore Club.
https://www.koimoi.com/box-office/83-box-office-day-17-ranveer-singh-starrer-goes-past-the-100-crores-mark-across-all-languages/
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January 10, 2022 at 1:52 AM
A source close to India Today revealed the same as, “Aamir Khan is planning to keep a special screening for Tom Hanks closer to Laal Singh Chaddha’s release. There is a buzz that closer to the release of Laal Singh Chaddha, Aamir would hold the screening for Tom Hanks in the US (United States) or travel there to personally show him the film. It is because he wants Tom Hanks to watch Laal Singh Chaddha and share his thoughts.”
https://www.koimoi.com/bollywood-news/aamir-khan-to-take-laal-singh-chaddha-to-us-hold-special-screening-for-tom-hanks/
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January 10, 2022 at 2:14 AM
‘We’ve made a better film than Baahubali’
https://www.rediff.com/movies/report/s-s-rajamouli-weve-made-a-better-film-than-baahubali/20220110.htm
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January 10, 2022 at 3:17 AM
https://www.yahoo.com/news/downed-plane-hit-train-la-063535214.html
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January 10, 2022 at 3:22 AM
graphic video; please use caution..
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January 10, 2022 at 5:15 AM
https://indianexpress.com/article/lifestyle/food-wine/london-seafood-restaurant-stuffed-duck-neck-westerns-laundry-7715517/
‘That is too much’: London restaurant’s stuffed duck neck dish invites mixed reactions from netizens
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January 10, 2022 at 5:37 AM
https://www.filmibeat.com/telugu/news/2022/pushpa-worldwide-closing-collections-allu-arjun-starrer-fails-to-achieve-break-even-in-telugu-state-327593.html?story=2
Verdict: Superhit In Hindi And Other Regional Languages, Except For Telugu.
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January 10, 2022 at 5:42 AM
In all honesty, 83 shot itself in the foot. Opting for a 8 week theatrical release instead of a 4 week release like most films including Sooryavanshi and Pushpa, it could have reduced its losses to some 20-30 crore easily. The fact that producers are still insistent on an 8 week window is bizarre to say the least.
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January 10, 2022 at 6:24 AM
https://www.indiatoday.in/movies/bollywood/story/83-box-office-collection-day-17-ranveer-singh-starrer-inches-closer-to-rs-200-crore-club-1898051-2022-01-10
Ranveer Singh-starrer 83 has been struggling at the box office. However, the sports drama may soon enter the Rs 200 crore club. Despite the increasing restrictions and growing number of cases, movie buffs have been visiting the theatres to watch Ranveer in action. The Kabir Khan directorial was released on December 24, 2021.
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January 10, 2022 at 6:27 AM
Hollywood IGNORES the Golden Globes and the reason’s not COVID!
The HFPA has been in the eye of a storm after a Los Angeles Times’s investigation last year revealed there were no black members on its 87-member voting panel. Calling out the organisation for its ‘unethical behaviour’, Hollywood has since stayed away from this awards ceremony, with stars like Tom Cruise even returning the three Globes he had won.
https://www.rediff.com/movies/report/hollywood-ignores-the-golden-globes-and-the-reasons-not-covid/20220110.htm
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January 10, 2022 at 7:01 AM
Sumit Kadel
@SumitkadeI
#Pushpa Hindi version to premiere on Amazon Prime on 14th January. Film is already a SUPER HIT in hindi markets with a collection of approx 80 cr nett till now . #AlluArjun
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January 10, 2022 at 7:59 AM
Great news. Will watch it again.
Pushpa 🌺🌺🌺 nahin 🔥🔥🔥 hai
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January 10, 2022 at 8:03 AM
I should have waited a week 🙂
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January 10, 2022 at 7:45 AM
https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/outrage-over-actor-siddharths-tweet-on-badminton-star-saina-nehwals-post-on-pm-narendra-modi-security-2699374
Not entirely unexpected from a filthy worshipper of Periyar ideology & Dravidian land. I guess clowns like Siddharth tend to take illogical movies like RDB a bit too seriously..
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January 10, 2022 at 3:24 PM
What a disgusting tweet by this vile and pathetic person. Saina should sue this scum
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January 10, 2022 at 8:05 PM
Drinking and tweeting are dangerous combo. Sid should know.
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January 10, 2022 at 8:03 PM
Chak De India!
Dhamaal
Dhol
Guru
Heyy Babyy
Jab We Met
Namastey London
Om Shanti Om
Partner
Shootout At Lokhandwala
Tare Zameen Par
Welcome
Bhool Bhulaiyaa
Year 2007 was one of the best years for Bollywood since last 20-25 years. Quality entertainers. Your thoughts?
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January 10, 2022 at 9:09 PM
With four big-budget films, over Rs 875 crore riding on Hrithik Roshan in 2022-23!
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/hindi/bollywood/box-office/with-four-big-budget-films-over-rs-875-crore-riding-on-hrithik-roshan-in-2022-23/articleshow/88814137.cms
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January 10, 2022 at 9:17 PM
While I am extremely disgusted with Siddharth’s tweet and his subsequent explanation, I also condemn Bulli bai which is also extremely offensive. Thank god that the masterminds who are very young and brainwashed for money or ideology were arrested and their names were published. And who is Javed Akhtar to forgive them? It is the 100 women who suffered and are suffering the humiliation of being publicly auctioned. Hope Smriti Iraniji condemns both Siddharth and Buli Bai perpetrators with equal vehemence.
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January 10, 2022 at 9:40 PM
Smriti Irani: ‘Women, irrespective of religion, denied dignity on social media’
Speaking at The Indian Express e-Adda programme, Smriti Irani underlined the need for people to cut across party lines and come together to address this issue.
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January 10, 2022 at 9:59 PM
jumping jack jeetendra
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January 10, 2022 at 11:01 PM
“While i condemn. ( wrong 1)…..i also condemn…..(wrong 2).”
This sentence get loaded because it has a possibilty of putting equal weightage to both the wrongs if they are different.
Few wrongs needs to be pointed.
Few needs to be condemned.
Few must be reported to authorities.
Few needs to be fought.
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January 10, 2022 at 11:11 PM
Here people are selective in pointing out outrage. So I brought what was bothering me since a long time. In my view both are about humiliating women and so both are wrong.
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January 10, 2022 at 11:20 PM
I am still confused with Bully Bai, what it intended etc.. Heard the main perpetrator a 19 yr old engineering student tried to commit suicide twice. His father said he was always confined to his room on his laptop and rarely used to meet people.
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January 10, 2022 at 9:38 PM
RRR: Rajamouli takes upon the onus
With interest increasing on it, DVV.Dayanna is facing immense stress. Coming to know about it, Rajamouli has taken the onus upon himself and decided to take the responsibility of clearing it. In return, Rajamouli may have a share in RRR profits.
https://www.cinejosh.com/news/3/86816/rrr-rajamouli-takes-upon-the-onus.html
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January 10, 2022 at 9:46 PM
Is ranveer singh with his weird dress sense and over the top behaviour reminds us of legendary Raaj Kumar and Kishore Kumar? They were also talented like ranveer.
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January 10, 2022 at 9:54 PM
Filmmaker Pahlaj Nihalani is back with his next film and this time it’s a family entertainer set on the backdrop of COVID Times. ETimes reached out to Pahlaj Nihalani who revealed key details about the shoot of his new film. He said, “I shot the film in March and April and had planned for a December release but looking at the situation right now, we will decide on the release a little later.”
Pahlaj has cast his ‘Raja Rangeela’ heroine Mishika Chaurasia as the leading lady with newcomer Nawab Khan the lead opposite her. He further revealed, “I have Mithun Chakraborty, Anita Raaj and Shakti Kapoor playing some important roles in the film. I also have a lot of new-age actors playing character roles in the film.”
So what is the title of the film? Nihalani revealed, “It is titled ‘Anari Is Back’ as the hero of the film is an innocent and honest man, therefore, the title.” Nihalani’s film has already received clearance from the Censor Board and is now waiting for release.
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/hindi/bollywood/news/pahlaj-nihalanis-new-film-anari-is-back-is-ready-for-release/articleshow/88819720.cms
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January 11, 2022 at 1:04 AM
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January 11, 2022 at 2:04 AM
https://www.hindustantimes.com/entertainment/music/lata-mangeshkar-admitted-to-icu-after-testing-positive-for-covid19-101641883584095.html
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January 11, 2022 at 2:06 AM
Lata Mangeshkar Admitted to ICU at Breach Candy Hospital in Mumbai After Contracting Covid-19
Sharing Mangeshkar’s health update, her niece Rachna told news agency ANI, “She is doing fine; has been kept in ICU only for precautionary reasons considering her age. Please respect our privacy and keep Didi in your prayers.”
Mangeshkar was earlier admitted to the hospital in November 2019 after she complained of breathing problems. At the time, Mangeshkar’s younger sister Usha had said the singer had a viral infection.
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January 11, 2022 at 2:23 AM
83 Box Office: Ranveer Singh Beats Hrithik Roshan, Ties With Shah Rukh Khan In Star Ranking!
In Stars’ Power Index, actors are given points based on the respective number of films in box office clubs.
https://www.koimoi.com/box-office/83-box-office-ranveer-singh-beats-hrithik-roshan-ties-with-shah-rukh-khan-in-star-ranking/
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January 11, 2022 at 2:30 AM
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January 11, 2022 at 6:03 AM
Reliance Entertainment, one of the production houses backing 83, shared the news that the film has crossed the Rs 100 crore mark in India on its official Twitter account. “India scores a century!” read the caption of the poster.
https://www.indiatoday.in/movies/bollywood/story/83-box-office-collection-day-18-ranveer-singh-starrer-earns-rs-180-crore-worldwide-1898501-2022-01-11
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January 11, 2022 at 7:03 AM
83 will make it to 100 crs nett. Pushpa will not. Will BOI still call 83 as a disaster?
https://boxofficeindia.com/report-details.php?articleid=6621
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January 11, 2022 at 8:36 AM
BOI is diminishing 83 collections to make sure the Hindi version doesn’t cross 100 Cr. I doubt the regional versions would do anything more than 2-3 Cr and the rest of the collections shared by Reliance are for the Hindi version alone.
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January 11, 2022 at 1:10 PM
All about expectations – no one expected Pushpa to make this much and a lot more was expected from 83 – around 250-300. But I don’t think it would have made that much even with no COVID and theatre closure issues because it doesn’t seem like it’s been liked to that degree.
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January 11, 2022 at 1:16 PM
we were expecting Sorryvanshi to get to 250 to 300 cr. It faltered at 190s. By that logic, it is a flop as well.
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January 11, 2022 at 3:39 PM
83 would easily have done 180-200 Cr net in a 2019 scenario and been a box office success for sure.
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January 11, 2022 at 5:21 PM
Agree with Henry on 83, i dont’ think it would have made much regardless. Obviously it would have made more if there was no covid, etc… but it would not have made as some of the number are being thrown out. If barely touching 100 cr would have made 200 Cr in 2019 scenario, than can we say that 200 Cr grosser sooryavanshi would have easily made 400 cr in 2019 scenario?
Sooryavanshi collected about 26, 24 and 27 Cr first 3 days.
83 collected about 13, 17 and 17 Cr first 3 days. It’s not like 83 took flying start, it started okay and stayed okay and than fell sharply after new year, after that it fell below Pushpa daily collection but lot in terms percentage. If Jersey had released, 83 would not have gotten to 90 Cr.
83 did okay by getting 100, but i’m not going to start making arguments for it that it would have somehow made 200 cr in 2019, than we have to double up on all movies including sooryavanshi getting to 400 Cr.
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January 11, 2022 at 8:04 PM
Though a generic rule but the one i am using gets it close to prepandemic numbers.
So in a nutshell Post Diwali and opening of Guj/Maha and several other states till cinemas started to close again –
Non event good wom films (Chandigarh/Tadap) are doing 25-30% of its pre pandemic business
Non event excellent wom films (Pushpa Hindi) are doing 50% of its pre pandemic business
Event good wom films (Sooryavanshi/83) are doing 60-70% of its pre pandemic business.
Event very good wom films (Baahubali2/Dangal/Spiderman) should do 80-90% of its pre pandemic business
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So using the above rule, we can check the pre pandemic numbers. Ofcourse this doesnt have any impact other than the new box office classification.
83 would have made 170- 180 cr
Pushpa Hindi would have made 200 cr
Sooryavanshi would have made 285- 300 cr
Chandigarh would have made 80 cr
Tadap would have made 90 cr
Antim would have made 100 cr
Do you think it adds up reasonable?
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January 11, 2022 at 8:08 PM
If Pushpa Hindi does 90 cr, then its likely projected number is 180 cr.
If it gets to 100 cr then it is closer to 200 cr which i have considered, assuming it gets there.
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January 11, 2022 at 10:01 PM
Wrong, The massy movies such as Sorryvanshi and Pushpa have very little impact due to Covid. Not more than 15-20% as per my estimates. While the classy movies such as 83, CKA are highly impacted maybe 50-80%.
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January 12, 2022 at 5:29 AM
World is full of people who only say right or wrong to your ideas. They will not give alternate solutions or a different idea. Ignore such ignorants. – Bill Gates
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January 11, 2022 at 8:33 PM
What this tells us is that to get to 100 cr now, you need to be a decent event level movie like 83 or you need to be an excellent non event movie.
Any thing lesser and the boxoffice nosedives.
Anything more and the boxoffice gets closer and closer to pre pandemic.
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January 11, 2022 at 11:08 PM
You do realize Sooryavanshi was NOT impacted by Omicron, night curfews, weekend curfews and an Ncr shutdown right?
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January 12, 2022 at 5:27 AM
yes, true.
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January 11, 2022 at 8:37 PM
I think Laal Singh Chadda was extremely luck as it would have done same business as 83. Add 10 cr for Aamir’s exclusivity. Both are quite similar in budget, concept, target audience and i hope LSC would be as good as 83.
BOI would have come hammers and tong on LSC while entire Aamir Khan brigade (90% of this forum, quite detached from real work where it is 10% or so) would have come with golden hammers and sharpened tongs. 😀
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January 12, 2022 at 11:42 AM
Not an aamir fan by any means but it’s silly to think LCS would have done pretty much same as 83.
LCS would have worked in multiplex and single screen.
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January 12, 2022 at 8:59 PM
83 also worked big time with the same target audience. Its a loved film. Except that not all came to watch because of pandemic or availability of an alternative. Those that were not target audience for 83 did not bother. Pls dont mix pre pandemic expectation with what 83 faced.
Its an apprehension just based on the concept on which this movie is based. Once we see the trailer, would know more. And this apprehension is not misplaced, it applies to all big budget concept movies.
Again one can always challenge apprehensions but i am sure it exists to some extent.
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January 12, 2022 at 11:46 PM
Aamir is watching the fate of all the films. And so he will not have high expectations. His film is aimed at both national and intenational audience. There will be comparisons and some criticism too. Except one or two, we are all grounded and can face the reality. He did not stick to christmas release. Maybe its a wait and watch game for him. It is his home production and no fee for him. Except Kareena and Chay, there are no big stars.
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January 12, 2022 at 5:27 AM
looks fun.
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January 12, 2022 at 5:38 AM
When others are cancelling their shoots….Akki manages to shoot a promo song for his new movie Selfie.
I mean this is next level work ethics, planning and execution.
He is announcing more movies every months than what actors are doing in a year. I am stunned, amazed and proud all at the same time
This is his second remake out of 12 movies he has in pipeline. The other remake is Cindrella. Both Malayalam remakes. He is avoiding telugu remakes since Rowdy Rathore.
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January 12, 2022 at 5:42 AM
Its officially Omnicron vs Akshay Kumar now 😁😁🙏
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January 12, 2022 at 11:40 AM
The writer of this movie directed Ayyapanum Koshiyum which was smashing. Just saw it’s beiing remade in Telugu as Beemla Nayak. Could be remade in Hindi – Ayushman in Prthviraj role , who can do Biju Manon”s role? Akshay perhaps 🙂
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January 13, 2022 at 2:38 AM
Maybe Selfiee 2? 😁
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January 13, 2022 at 4:58 AM
🙂 They are chalk and cheese though it’s has two protagonists pitted against one another as a common theme.
** Contains spoilers**
https://www.filmcompanion.in/features/malayalam-features/ayyappanum-koshiyum-with-prithviraj-and-biju-menon-is-on-amazon-prime-this-entertaining-action-drama-is-more-than-just-an-empty-action-drama-baradwaj-rangan-sachy/
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January 13, 2022 at 5:03 AM
Just realized the BR linki provided may have spoilers. Not sure how to delete. Pls ignore
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January 12, 2022 at 5:31 AM
Top Five Biggest Losers Of All Time – 83 Tops
Wednesday 12 January 2022 13.30 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
There have been many disaster films in Hindi cinema since the Sohrab Modi film Jhansi Ki Rani in 1953 which was the first film to lose a huge amount of money. The film only lost 30 lakh but at that time there were hardly any films made on a budget of 30 lakhs and it was a huge amount for that time.
There are two ways at looking at disasters, one is the amount of money they lose and then there are complete washout films which just tank but sometimes they do not lose the most money as the budgets are lower and many times there is decent recovery from non theatrical revenue against the budget.
These washouts would include films like RGV Ki Aag (2007), Drona (2008), Khelein Hum Jee Jaan Sey (2010), Zanjeer (2013), Bombay Velvet (2015) Mirziya (2015), Fitoor (2016), Rangoon (2017) among others. 83 does not come in this list as its not what you call a washout but more of a rejected film. The washout films are the ones where the public just does not care for these films and dont even give them a chance.
Below is a list of the top five losers in Hindi cinema and these are the films to have lost 50 crore or more but only one of these films is a disaster and a washout also and that is Bombay Velvet. The others are also disasters due to heavy losses but they are rejected films and not washouts. The number in brackets is the loss of the film. The washout result of Bombay Velvet can be seen by the footfalls against the other films. Zero will remain with the highest footfalls of these films as its likely that 83 will not even reach the level of Mohenjo Daro.
1. 83 (80 cr)
Footfalls – 52 lakhs apprx (2 weeks)
2. Bombay Velvet (70 cr)
Footfalls – 22.24 lakhs
3. Zero (70 cr) (on valued SRK remuneration)
Footfalls – 68.74 lakhs
4. Mohenjo Daro (55 cr)
Footfalls – 60.17 lakhs
5. Jagga Jasoos (50 cr)
Footfalls – 49.74 lakhs
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January 12, 2022 at 6:26 AM
BOI upgrades 83 status from Washout to Rejected. 🤣
Bombay Velvet was really the mother of all disaster. Its amazing how Anurag Kashyap still survives.
Growing up, Roop ki raani choron ka raaja was called the biggest flop of all time. Then Salman’s Chadramukhi overtook it in terms of losses. Not sure where these two rank now?
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January 12, 2022 at 10:14 AM
Rubbish analysis about escalated costs and diminished footfalls. Even in the worst case scenario, 83 has recovered >70% of its investment and had recorded >70 Lakh footfall.
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January 12, 2022 at 8:02 AM
After being accused of making sexist remarks against badminton player Saina Nehwal, actor Siddharth on Tuesday took to social media to apologise. In an open letter, he called Saina his champion, and said that he was trying to make a joke with his original comment, but it ‘didn’t land’. The shuttler responded to Siddharth’s apology by saying that the matter is ‘about women’ and wondered why the actor changed his stance after making the comment.
“He only said it and he is now apologising. I was surprised to see myself trending on Twitter that day. I haven’t spoken to him but I am happy that he apologised,” she said on the sidelines of the ongoing India Open, according to news agency PTI. “See, it is about women, he shouldn’t target a woman like that but it’s okay, I am not bothered about it, I am happy in my space and god bless him,” she added.
Identifying himself as an ‘ally’ of the feminist movement, Siddharth wrote in his open letter, “Dear Saina, I want to apologise to you for my rude joke that I wrote as a response to a tweet of yours, a few days ago. I may disagree with you on many things but even my disappointment or anger when I read your tweet, cannot justify my tone and words. I know I have more grace in me than that. As for the joke… If a joke needs to be explained, then it wasn’t a very good joke to begin with. Sorry about a joke that didn’t land.”
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January 12, 2022 at 8:12 AM
I don’t think there was a joke…Any one who follows politics could see there was a dig.
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January 12, 2022 at 8:16 AM
A better quip would have been “from the best at shuttlecock to buying cock and bull”, or still offensive?
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January 12, 2022 at 8:37 AM
If one has still not realised then let me spell out….
If Modi plays a game, he keeps it technically right. He doesnt do 80-20. He plays on a strong wicket. To take him head on, one needs to have a lot of credibility, correctness and ability to do drama, lots of drama at national level from North to South and East to West India.
Sid in no way can match his game. Agree with Munna…he tried to take a dig on Modi using Saina’s tweet. He fell prey to Modi, not to Saina.
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January 12, 2022 at 8:22 AM
1. 83 (80 cr)
Footfalls – 52 lakhs apprx (2 weeks)
2. Bombay Velvet (70 cr)
Footfalls – 22.24 lakhs
3. Zero (70 cr) (on valued SRK remuneration)
Footfalls – 68.74 lakhs
4. Mohenjo Daro (55 cr)
Footfalls – 60.17 lakhs
5. Jagga Jasoos (50 cr)
Footfalls – 49.74 lakhs
https://boxofficeindia.com/report-details.php?articleid=6622
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January 12, 2022 at 8:43 AM
he does have a point…
https://twitter.com/Actor_Siddharth/status/1474383152575483907
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January 12, 2022 at 9:28 AM
This government action has been done to support theatres from getting arm twisted by producers to increase tix price to insane level and ask for 55-60% share.
Theatres were having no cboice than adhere to this demand. Else for their business, they would keep the tix proce moderate and food price high and make more profit.
Now with high tix price, foot falls have reduced and profit of exhibitors are taking a hit.
Finally demand supply and market efficiency will rule. Government interventions seems to be temporary.
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January 12, 2022 at 9:45 AM
1. When you buy a Gucci over a tom, dick and Harry you are most probably already wealthy and paying 10 bucks or 20 bucks for cinema is irrelevant
2. Using taxi same thing. People who can’t afford will walk, use bus or train
3. Smartphone – you are buying technology that helps in many aspects of life. Now my phone can count steps for example. Plus it’s a year long investment
Cinema ticket is entertainment product. 2-3 hours max. Deeply silly comparison. Cinema ticket should be reasonable. Inflate food and drink.
It’s poor economics to inflate ticket prices all the time. You are pricing people out not just from ticket revenue but also food and drink revenue.
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January 12, 2022 at 10:20 AM
I have no idea whether the inflation is done on the producer’s behest or whether its the exhibitor’s call. But half the people visiting the theater might not be interested in snacks or popcorn and hence inflating f&b pricing does make a lot more business sense than inflating ticket prices and driving footfalls away.
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January 12, 2022 at 10:44 AM
Why doesn’t he tag his colleague in the tamil industry who is in the govt or rather the govt. He wouldnt dare.
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January 14, 2022 at 2:01 PM
Cinema is meant to be the common man’s entertainment option unlike shopping at high end retail stores. It’s like hiking the prices of essential commodities.
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January 14, 2022 at 3:17 PM
Agreed
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January 14, 2022 at 5:19 PM
There is an implicit assumption that all cinema are same or similar. We are here arguing about 83 and Pushpa. They don’t cater to same set of audience. And audience have differing purchasing power. There is a famous story regarding Ford Model T and GM (“GM should offer not cheaper cars but better quality cars in a greater variety.”). Sholay, HAHK, 3 Idiots are universal. But most of the movies have different audience (there is definitely an overlap). My point is you can have affordable cinema but if Salman fans want to pay Rs 2000 on first three days of Antim, let them pay. Or some couple want to pay Rs 3000 in director cut at PVR..that should also be fine. But smaller cities should have smaller halls and cheaper ticket prices. If we look at HAHK release strategy, they first renovated dilapidated halls, increased the ticket price..and that made sure female gender showed up in a safe and clean surroundings. And there was pricing out in the strategy but once WOM became strong they moved to other smaller cinemas.
http://www.autolife.umd.umich.edu/Design/Gartman/D_Casestudy/D_Casestudy3.htm
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January 14, 2022 at 5:49 PM
I think you can have both in same cinema. Some section can be VIP and other just regular price. Unfortunately prices get out of hand.
My local specifically stated that for NTTD they increased prices and they kept them there for Spiderman. Once you hit a price point you rarely go down nowadays. It doesn’t happen in sports, theatre pricing. Cinema prices have only gone one way.
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January 14, 2022 at 6:38 PM
if You keep increasing prices at certain point people are going to stop watching movies at your location. People should study why there have been so many closures of single screen cinema. Relatively they have been cheap. I think it has to do with operating larger cinema and content not matching audience taste /sensibility.
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January 12, 2022 at 8:31 AM
**Bangarraju Trailer **
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January 12, 2022 at 12:02 PM
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January 12, 2022 at 1:50 PM
Ajay Devgn has taken off to the Sabarimala Temple in Kerala. The actor left for the darshan, today. Devgn had been steadfastly abiding what it takes to go there for a pilgrimage. He hadn’t spoken about it to many in his circle, but ETimes is now bringing you this breaking news FIRST and EXCLUSIVE.
According to the official website of the temple, a pilgrimage to Sabarimala is all about the test of senses. Pilgrims are expected to lead a simple pious life known as ‘Vrutham’ for the successful completion of the pilgrimage. A source says, “Ajay followed quite a few rituals required for a month or so. The visible ones were that he was spotted wearing black, he did not cut hair or nails for about a month and he did not shave either.”
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/hindi/bollywood/news/ajay-devgn-takes-off-to-keralas-sabarimala-temple-actor-followed-the-rituals-for-a-month-exclusive/articleshow/88862314.cms
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January 13, 2022 at 2:15 AM
Chichchore was supposed to premiere in China on 7th of this month.
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January 13, 2022 at 7:50 AM
Didn’t work, surprisingly. But even in India, it was overrated beyond belief.
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January 13, 2022 at 2:23 AM
**Looop Lapeta | Official Trailer **
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January 13, 2022 at 2:27 AM
Netflix assembles Mohanlal, Mammootty, Kamal Haasan, Fahadh Faasil for star-studded Malayalam anthology
Mohanlal, Mammootty and Fahadh Faasil are among the star cast of Netlfix’s upcoming Malayalam anthology, which will be presented by Kamal Haasan.
https://indianexpress.com/article/entertainment/malayalam/netflix-mohanlal-mammootty-kamal-haasan-fahadh-faasil-malayalam-anthology-7720839/
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January 13, 2022 at 3:49 AM
Sooryavanshi Final Circuit Figures And Verdicts
Thursday 13 January 2022 13.45 IST
https://boxofficeindia.com/report-details.php?articleid=6623
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January 13, 2022 at 4:29 AM
Pure Rubbish by BOI changing the goalposts to give Sorryvanshi a hit tag. It’s an Average fare as per me.
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January 13, 2022 at 5:16 AM
Yes if Sooryavanshi’s a Hit then 83 is an Average fare for sure, especially including overseas.
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January 13, 2022 at 5:23 PM
Gujjus just love AkshayKumar, dont they….Housefull4 was a massive blockbuster too.
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January 13, 2022 at 6:33 PM
Well Gujjus in general have a good sense of humor. Not just HF4 & Soorya even classics like Golmaal 4, Judwaa 2 & Pushpa chameli have scored heavily in Gujju land.. at least as per boxofficegujarat.com
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January 13, 2022 at 10:30 PM
Shivaay, are you a gujju by any chance? asking since your sense of humor is hilarious.
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January 13, 2022 at 11:21 PM
Are you guys suggesting Modi, Gandhi ji and host of politicians are full of humor?
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January 14, 2022 at 12:23 AM
Nah.. half a punjabi, half Bangalorean.. gujarat falls right in between the two xP
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January 14, 2022 at 12:27 AM
Oh Gandhi did have a great sense of humor with his insistence on a bootlegging dry state of India and experiments with truths with a teenage niece. And Modi’s sense of humor is evident in all his bluffmaster speeches & 8pm shockers.. actually both sense of humors are sinister
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January 13, 2022 at 6:09 AM
Tabu to star in Ajay Devgn’s ‘Bholaa’ – the remake of Tamil blockbuster ‘Kaithi’ – Exclusive!
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/hindi/bollywood/news/tabu-to-star-opposite-ajay-devgn-in-bholaa-the-remake-of-tamil-blockbuster-kaithi-exclusive/articleshow/88872611.cms
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January 13, 2022 at 1:22 PM
https://indianexpress.com/article/opinion/columns/gender-justice-elusive-malayalam-film-industry-7720132/
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January 13, 2022 at 6:01 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/leftyindian/status/1481615396180430853
BOIs entire rant on 83s economics falls flat when you consider the fact that 83s pre pandemic cost was 150 cr (at par with War, cannot possibly be more!) and an additional 50 cr due to pandemic postponement. Even in a worst case scenario the total cost is 200 cr approx and as per cost vs recovery model, the global recovery is 170-180 cr which is an ROI of -10-15% and nowhere near disasters like Zero or Bombay Velvet. This 260 cr figure and the biggest disaster tag is a figment of BOIs imagination. Yes the distributors of B/C centers have lost big, but they did so during the so called Semi Hits of Jai Ho & Dilwale too.
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January 13, 2022 at 10:48 PM
Actually, even per Mankad, the budget is close to 280 crore. Kapil and his team alone were paid close to 50 crores, they booked stadiums in England for the matches and the pandemic added an extra 30 crore. The budget went wrong, not the film.
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January 14, 2022 at 12:20 AM
So we’re to believe the likes of Balwinder Sandhu and Madan Lal would charge crores for their narratives. Conspiracy theories at their heights. Neither Nahta nor Taran has confirmed the budget. The rest of it is speculation.
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January 14, 2022 at 1:36 AM
Strong rumor now in the industry about the 5th project that Akshay would announce for 2023. YRF’s second in the series after Prithviraj in their 3 films deal with Akki over 10 years.
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January 14, 2022 at 2:17 AM
I think the difference between what Salman Khan and others like Akshay Kumar, Hrithik, Ranveer is doing is that Salman is making films for himself and director comes next and then the story. Till the time directors were reaching out to him with story because Salman would fit the character, he ruled the industry.
Question is why aren’t he being approached and why all new directors and stories going to Akshay or Hrithik or Ranveer?
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January 14, 2022 at 2:24 AM
If situation becomes normal by 2022 1st quarter, then we can expect something like this👇:
2022:
#Prithviraj
#BachchanPandey
#RamSetu
#RakshaBandhan
#Cinderella
2023:
#OMG2
#Selfiee
#Gorkha
#BMCM
#(yrf next – could be dhoom 4)
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January 14, 2022 at 2:33 AM
Not just Sussanne Khan, but Hrithik Roshan too had tested positive for COVID-19
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January 14, 2022 at 3:16 AM
The worst markets are East Punjab and Delhi NCR but these will struggle to get numbers for films which have that South feel, its the same for Hindi films in this zone. The Delhi / UP number has been helped by good numbers in many centres of UP. The total collections of the film so far are 83 crore nett and it should finish up with a total around the 90 crore nett mark. The collections of Pushpa (Hindi) till date are as follows
https://boxofficeindia.com/report-details.php?articleid=6624
They are not worst markets. They look like sensible markets not entertaining B grade films!
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January 14, 2022 at 5:22 AM
Delhi NCR has been lacklustre for all movies since pandemic.
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January 14, 2022 at 5:39 AM
Delhi & Gurgaon theaters are shut so obviously the numbers are low. But yes, Ncr, Mumbai-Pune, Bangalore and to an extent Kolkata seem to be having the most mature audience while Gujjus seem to love guilty pleasures and spoofs which the idiots at boxofficesaurashtra seem to mistake for genuine appreciation.
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January 14, 2022 at 10:48 AM
boxofficesaurashtra! Hahahahhahhahaha!
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January 14, 2022 at 3:38 AM
https://www.timesnownews.com/sports/cricket/article/virat-kohli-will-never-be-an-idol-to-youngsters-by-doing-this-gautam-gambhir-on-skippers-stump-mic-outburst/849263
Virat Kohli is a disgraceful captain and to the game. India’s very own Ricky Ponting.
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January 14, 2022 at 5:16 AM
Shame on Salman Khan
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January 14, 2022 at 5:17 AM
This is what he did
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January 14, 2022 at 1:53 PM
He needs to be called out for what he is: a toxic man who has gotten away for far too many misdeeds now
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January 14, 2022 at 3:17 PM
Absolutely
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January 14, 2022 at 6:08 PM
Problem is such men also have another face of someone who would stand by you.
Closest star in the industry to him is SRK and Aamir. Both got involved in a scuffle with him but both eventually embraced him. You need gunda mawaali types.
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January 14, 2022 at 6:10 PM
People like Salman would tease/ flirt with your wife or girlfriend in front of you but would come to fight for you when you need.
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January 14, 2022 at 6:17 PM
You know him personally?
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January 14, 2022 at 5:20 AM
Its everywhere now
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January 14, 2022 at 5:22 AM
Crass behaviour!
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January 14, 2022 at 5:44 AM
Not unexpected from a **Edited** who once claimed he felt like a raped woman after the Sultan shoot.
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January 14, 2022 at 7:22 AM
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January 14, 2022 at 1:47 PM
Pushpa: Hindi dubbed
A strictly okay watch that is boring for the most part with none of the scenes standing out. Well, maybe the penultimate scene at the police station with the hero and his arch nemesis. It never derails completely but is just not convincing enough.
It is as expected an 80s style entertainer and has a hero with street smart antics and flat unidimensional characters that have no depth whatsoever. The women are meant to be protected and harassed (a couple of scenes involve paying money for sexual favours that are played for comic effect). But theek hai. It’s a mass movie meant for entertainment that knows what people want and not films like 83. Kya karein!
Its overlong and aimless and stretches itself to no fruition. Yes, there’s a part 2 coming up and hope that offers more depth and maybe FaFa will save the day
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January 14, 2022 at 5:29 PM
Even by the standards of mass entertainers, the likes of Syeraa and KGF are far superior films. I wonder what’s with the interiors of the Hindi belt nowadays. First Kanchana, then Laxmi and now this. Perhaps its pure good old buffooneries and guilty fun a lot of them seek.
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January 14, 2022 at 6:04 PM
“Perhaps its pure good old buffooneries and guilty fun a lot of them seek.”
100%. This is what it is. Films like these are based on strong characters. Most of them have super hero capabilities. Pushpa is an unabashed bucolic criminal. Someone who no one would want to meet in person.
But probably cinema provides a medium to meet.
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