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SATYAMSHOT
June 15, 2011 at 2:33 AM
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June 15, 2011 at 12:06 PM
I love this man… still believe if he wouldnt have left bollywood for OSHO… he would have been at the place of.. i wont take the name…. to save myself from some bashing
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June 15, 2011 at 1:18 PM
The media built up Vinod Khanna quite a bit as the Bachchan alternative for a while. But the record is quite clear. Vinod Khanna doesn’t even have the accomplishments of Dharmendra. And It’s not about staying longer. The gap between Vinod Khanna and Amitabh Bachchan just between the late 70s and the early 80s (after which he left) is not just great but mind-boggling. of course this was true for bachchan’s other peers too but Vinod Khanna in any case never quite had the record of a Dharmendra either. Then when Vinod Khanna returned in ’87 the media again started comparing him to Bachchan. what happened? He had a few initial high-points and then dissipated quickly. Bachchan even in decline by ’88 was still producing by far the biggest initials and grossers usually way bigger than his. So it’s not about ‘bashing’ here. There really is not a jot of evidence to suggest Vinod Khanna could have really been a serious challenger whether in the box office sense or in terms of attracting better projects than Bachchan and so on. I like Vinod Khanna a lot myself (though I must say he hasn’t aged as well.. he doesn’t seem as remarkable from a distance) but the media was always in this Bachchan-denial phase. There was that Star & Style cover from 1978 which thought the year would be a contest between Vinod and Rishi. LOL, Bachchan only had films like Trishul and MKS coming up! It eventually turned out to be the best year of his career with Don, Kasme Vaade, Ganga ki Saugandh added to the mix. The media however played these silly games. It wasn’t just the coverage. I’ve gone through many magazine covers in recent times and it’s fascinating to see how beyond a point when Bachchan becomes supreme it is not just the coverage that gets increasingly negative but the media also resorted to this very cheap trick of deliberately coming up with awkward or unflattering shots of his to put on their covers. There are very many examples. So it was a very concerted effort. Nonetheless this entire politics cannot conceal the fact that between Bachchan and everyone else there was an extraordinary gulf. Getting back to Vinod Khanna your position therefore is one of ‘faith’. Because there is not even the slightest shred of evidence that can support your claim. And if it’s about ‘faith’ one is really free to believe anything. Hope you don’t consider this response ‘bashing’. But if so tough!
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June 15, 2011 at 12:41 PM
“he would have been at the place of..”
Bachchan.
Let the bashing begin!
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June 15, 2011 at 1:15 PM
Let’s see –
AB v VK
Khoon Pasina – AB winner
Hera Pheri – AB winner (VK had a better role)
AAA – AB winner
Parvarish – AB winner (VK had a better role)
MKS – AB winner (in a clever ploy he’s not the Sikandar but Muqaddar ka Sikandar!)
Zameer not included.
Math – AB 5 : VK 0
Right there, when VK was at his height…
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June 15, 2011 at 1:21 PM
in AAA even Akbar was easily the winner over him. Now it’s fair to say that Vinod didn’t really get the crowd pleasing part but he hardly had the comedic skills of Rishi let alone Bachchan. In fact Rishi is so fine here that he works extremely well with Anthony. Also why is a top director like Desai not giving Vinod one of the better parts?!
The media also had this nonsensical stuff about Bachchan not wanting to work with stars like Vinod beyond a point. yeah I guess because he was so disappointed with the MKS and AAA result. LOL!
Vinod Khanna just didn’t have more than mediocre projects without Bachchan. Qurbani is the one exception and it’s a favorite film of mine. The Burning Train (another favorite of mine) is another exception that didn’t work. But note how even without Bachchan Vinod Khanna is generally not privileged over his co-stars. And even in Qurbani where he dies at the end and therefore has the sympathetic part he still cannot quite match up to Feroz Khan’s cool. And this is arguably his best outing ever as a star.
On that note one of Vinod Khanna’s underrated commercial films is Khuda Kasam. It’s very engaging. Didn’t do well at the time though.
The ultimate problem with Vinod Khanna is that he didn’t quite have fire as a star on screen. There was a kind of flatness to him. and again I say this as someone who nonetheless likes him a lot.
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June 15, 2011 at 1:33 PM
If Vinod Khanna did not leave still Amitabh would had beaten Vinod by miles…Amitabh was so much in demand that if he would have gone then bollywood would have been in tatters..
let s have a bashing
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June 15, 2011 at 1:35 PM
no doubt vinod was very good actor,
hera pheri,khoon pasina,parvarish,AAA,
muqqadar ka sikander..Amitabh stole the show
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April 5, 2013 at 7:12 PM
You are stating facts here but personally I prefer Vinod to Amitabh . I thought VK was much better in Khoon Pasina. And your forgetting to mention VK best movies that made him a star before AB. To me Mera Goan Mera Dish is Dharmender’ best movie and VK’ best role as a bad guy. In fact ,I think MGMD is a much better movie than Sholay. VK’s best movie is Kache Daagi,one of my all time favorite movies. VK over powers Kabir Bedi. In fact,VK’ s earlier movies are where you will find his best acting. He was always more handsome than AB. It’s all a matter of opinion of course but most AB movies with the exception of Shakti don’t satand the test of time. His movies ,especially movies like Cooli and Mard are not watchable now.
But 100% with you on Khuda Kassam. I am watching right now and it’s a solid movie. Very attractive cast ,good story and direction.
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June 15, 2011 at 2:10 PM
Vinod hanna was behind Amitabh for sure.But after Amitabh started doing lesser films from 1984 he could have utilised his stardom and could have become a bigger star.Even jeetendra had some hits in that vaccum from 1984.
But I doubt whether he would have overtaken bachchan.Bachchan’s popularity
and mass appeal was huge.And Vinod had a bad script sense.
After getting a better role in parvarish he accepted a supporting role in MKS.
And most of his films didnt have that much quality exept qurbani.
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June 15, 2011 at 2:36 PM
A media created myth. There was a period when any successful star was being hyped up as the person taking over from Amitabh. The list is endless
and includes nobodies like Vikram of the Julie fame. Some, obviously fell for this media hype. VK had a tremendous physical presence but not the whole paqckage. He obviously didnt do himself any favors by joining Osho and had some oppurtunities after his return but never really capitalised. Now, it is painful to see him in roles like Dabangg.
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June 15, 2011 at 3:03 PM
LOL, and that list also included Raj Babbar at one point who was considered another one of those ‘rising stars’ to potentially take over! Bachchan didn’t quite oblige. In more recent times those with petty minds have decided to compare straight up a man in his 60s or now approaching 70 (and one who walked away from his image.. itself completely unusual for a his kind of superstar though his transcendence can nonetheless be measured in other ways.. to wit Bachchan is precisely the only superstar for whom the box office in a sense becomes inconsequential beyond a point) with those who in their 30s or 40s. A lack of historical understanding is revealed here. Clearly they are not aware of the relevant histories. Sometimes I even feel pity for them. Unfortunately we live in times where even such pettiness has enough platforms to be heard and to influence.
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June 15, 2011 at 3:11 PM
“Clearly they are not aware of the relevant histories. Sometimes I even feel pity for them. Unfortunately we live in times where even such pettiness has enough”
If they are not aware of history, that makes them “petty”. Hmmmmmm
Compassion but not pity. Also people have prerogatives…its all subjective, no?
E.G. I personally love roles played by Sanjeev Kumar and in my very personal opinion rank him above DK, bachchan…so does that make me “petty” or would that garner emotions of pitiness from you.
Anyhow….I really don’t understand what you “see” in Trishul.
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June 15, 2011 at 2:58 PM
I have to say this. There is a raw macho magnetism in younger VK that is so appealing to women. It is not traditional choclate hero looks. It is not Bigb type of totally unconventional looks. It is something else. I LOVEd him in Meera (with Hema M.).
I hate these dump comparisions. Bet. bigb, VK, Dharam, DK…yada yada. They all are good in their own place and have UNIQUE contribution to cinema. It cannot be all bachchan…that would be like eating all rotis without sabzi, dhal, kachumber…etc. Even in a very successful movie, a strong “side” character is needed. It could be the character of AKHangal in Sholey or VK in dabaang. We may never attribute the whole good ness of the meal to that kachumber or to that side character but it has its very important space-place in the meal..in the movie going experience.
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June 15, 2011 at 3:08 PM
No one is saying ‘only Bachchan’. The original point made by Shaurya was about Vinod Khanna replacing Bachchan eventually which is what some of us are disagreeing with. You need to pay attention to how a discussion gets started.
as to everyone having their own place sure a meal in a fine French restaurant has its place as does a hamburger! Sachin Tendulkar has his place as does Zaheer Khan! I incidentally love hamburgers (all kinds!). I wouldn’t want to live in a world where there was only ‘fine dining’. As long as one doesn’t compare the two there’s no issue.
Now you might consider Shatrugan sinha’s and Fardeen Khan’s contribution to Hindi cinema as unique. I fortunately don’t!
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June 17, 2011 at 9:40 AM
“Vinod Khanna replacing Bachchan”
Agree..that is matter of conjecture, hypothetical statement and not worthy of debate. Even Shatrughan Sinha thinks that Bachchan sabotaged his career..doesn’t mean its true. Other actors only wished that they had role/movies and career graph like bachchan..even Om Puri said so much in recent interview.
Peace.
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June 15, 2011 at 10:30 PM
Can’t say I ever particularly liked watching Vinod Khanna onscreen.
But he did star several Gulzar movies and he is lucky to have been given that honour.
In Gulzar’s debut, Vinod Khanna had that awesome Kishore song:
Koi hota jis ko apna, hum apna keh lete yaaron
Paas nahin toh door hi hota, lekin koi mera apna
Aakhon mein neend na hoti, aansoon hi tairte rahate
Khwaabon mein jaagte hum raat bhar
Koi to gham apnataa, koi toh saathi hota
Bhoola hua koi wadaa, beeti hui kuch yaadein
Tanhaai doharati hai raat bhar
Koi dilaasa hota, koi toh apna hota
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June 15, 2011 at 11:39 PM
Mere Apne is a fine film..
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June 16, 2011 at 6:54 PM
Yes. But it’s a film I find hard to see – there is something incredibly sad about it.
Perhaps also the fact that Meena Kumari was dying during the making.
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June 16, 2011 at 12:33 AM
“There was a period when any successful star was being hyped up as the person taking over from Amitabh.”Here you guys support Amitabh and even i m of the same opinion.But when same media does samething with srk and u people support media.why are there such double standards from your side?
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June 16, 2011 at 12:40 AM
Actually SRK has been the media’s darling all these years. It is exactly the opposite situation! And here his rivals for about a decade now have actually done better than him! So for example just yesterday Nahata said Aamir, SRK, Salman are at the same level. Except that er.. only two of those have two hits a piece well in excess of 100 crores.One has shattered the 200 crore barrier. But hey SRK who isn’t anywhere close is somehow at the same level! Let’s see him do it first!
But there’s no double standard. It’s like saying the media is being touch on Sachin and then the media being touch on Ganguly. Only one of them is Sachin. LOL! Of course no one has ever been tough on SRK. Fans like yourself when they couldn’t handle the competition decided to fashion this fiction about the media raising new stars against him. Except that those others stars often did better.
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June 16, 2011 at 3:26 AM
You should check boxoffice reports of 70s and 80s and you ll see the stars like Dharmendra,Rishi Kapoor,Manoj Kumar etc have delivered some of the biggest hits in those years where as bigb has done that only twice.So does that mean all of them were bigger than him?One more example you can take the case of Sehwag who has crossed 300 run mark couple of times whereas Sachin has not done that as yet.So going by your logic Sehwag is bigger than Sachin.Do you agree with this.I hope you ll not.It is actually no of hits that matters and srk is ahead of Salman and Amir in that department.This year when he ll shutter all records mentioned by you then u ll come up with another theory that the movies he did lacked the prestige and boxoffice doesn’t matter.Anyway he is not the darling of media just check the Hindi tv news channels and he how much srk bashing is going on there on daily basis.
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June 16, 2011 at 7:16 AM
Bhai Mere .. Kyon phokat mein apni izzat ka faluda kar raha hai ? Amitabh delivered biggest Hits of year and multiple blockbusters every year from 1975 to 1985 .. for straight 11 Years and even after that He had Big openings and Hits like Akhree Raasta, shahenshah, Aaj Ka Arjun and Hum.
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June 16, 2011 at 9:35 AM
this is a pointless argument Taran.. because you’re not open to reason when it comes to SRK.. the Bachchan-SRK pairing is absurd to begin with.. even BOI with all their bias towards Bachchan and all their downgrading of his films are pretty much forced to have him on top just about every single year of his peak period, Something they don’t do with SRK! In any case Bachchan has the top grosser every single year between ’75 and ’86! In most of these years he dominates the top 5. He was called 1-10 for a reason! In contrast SRK between 1992 and the present has the top grosser of the year just 5 times and that too scattered across many years. LOL! So much for the comparison!
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June 16, 2011 at 4:26 AM
I mean he has delivered biggest hits of the year only twice whereas there are many hits that he has delivered.
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June 16, 2011 at 4:58 AM
I think srk’s time as a superstar will be over soon
Tne fake superstar srk will go and genuine superstars like Akshay,salman will be reconosied more now.
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June 16, 2011 at 7:18 AM
c’mon guys…. even if one is not a srk fan… like me… one cannot deny him being a superstar… and if u dnt agree…. ask any girl living nxt door… she will kill u… trust me she will.
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June 16, 2011 at 9:04 AM
Not every girl is crazy about SRK trust me, why do guys automatically assume that, he is definitely not attractive or appealing to me and I’m a 20 year old, and I know my friends don’t find him hot either. Salman is the guy that girls rather swoon over, even Akki and Aamir of that age group are more attractive! SRK has lost A LOT of his appeal in recent years.
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June 16, 2011 at 4:08 PM
Then may be i m living in Mars…. coz every girl i knw is crazy bout that stammer…
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June 16, 2011 at 4:11 PM
rest love john…. and as far as salman is concerned…. i have seen that 60 percent girls like him… he is more of a guy hero… may b coz he is not that sophesticated on screen… or may b he is a woman abuser… i m just talking bout perception… its not like i believe he is… i dnt care what he does in personal life
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June 16, 2011 at 5:59 PM
Yes John is popular among lots of girls and Sallu well most are crazy over him, SRK just doesn’t do it for most girls my age that I know, I mean I think we all liked him back in his KKHH days but now no one really goes crazy over him.
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June 16, 2011 at 5:00 PM
SRK has indeed lost substantially among younger females. They have moved on to Shahid,Ranbir, John etc. Aunties ( a lot of them) are still firmly in SRK’s corner.
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June 16, 2011 at 6:07 PM
I agree!
In University there are not many girls that are SRK diwani’s, I mean there a lot of other male actors that appeal to females more than SRK these days, it’s more Ranbir, Imran,Shahid etc.
I know my sister and her friends who are in school prefer these guys, although my sister is extra crazy about Abhishek too!
I think among younger females he’s not all that popular anymore, yes a lot of auntieji’s still like him, but i know many that have since migrated to Salman and Akki. Who in my honest opinion are far more attractive.
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June 16, 2011 at 9:46 PM
Nice to hear that aunt
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June 16, 2011 at 9:51 PM
Nice to hear that Aunties still like srk.He should consider himself lucky as he has some humble,sobber,loving fans,i mean Aunties at least whereas i consider bigb unlucky in this department as he has some arrogant,biased,jealous fans like you.
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June 17, 2011 at 6:14 AM
Firstly I’m not married to your uncle for you to be calling me aunt! How old are you by the way, like 2 or someting seriously dude grow up! Not everyone has to like SRK and you don’t have attack everyone who gives an honest opinion on Shahrukh uncle,yes I can call him Shahrukh uncle because he is my dad’s age! Fact is he is no longer young nor is he charming, he is just arrogant and insecure these days because his no1 box office position has been lost to Salman and Aamir and if we want chocolate hero’s we have much younger and cuter Ranbir and Imran’s quite frankly I do not find him good looking that’s my opinion!Why do si many SRK fanatics assume that if someone doesn’t like him then they are jeoulous of him like seriously get over yourselves, the world does not revolve around SRK! I used to like the dude in his KKHH days because he was sweet and charming but no more and crazy dillusional fans like you make me dislike him even more! And why must you bring BigB into every conversation seems like you have a secret obsession over him since you must mention him somehow or the other! Now that you have mentioned him though letme tell you that Amitji is a milliom times thee actor that your SRK could ever be! Word of advice build a bridge and get over yourself!
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June 17, 2011 at 5:28 AM
http://www.boxofficeindia.com/manage_stars.php?c=star_ranking_india
Strange…. ajai is not in top 10 …. but john and saif are….. kudos to BOI….
SATYAM your take on this required….
even abhishek has better box office standing then john… if they r keeping him out then y John…
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June 17, 2011 at 8:42 AM
nothing is surprising coming from the hyper-partisan BOI. Like they’ve nominated Salman as the top star now. So Aamir suffers just for not doing a major film! Otherwise how does Ghajini and 3I back to back not beat Dabanng and Ready back to back. It’s not just the pure numbers but also the fact that those benchmarks seemed unimaginable before those films achieved them. But Aamir often does few films. Doesn’t mean his market value has suddenly decreased.
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June 17, 2011 at 5:30 AM
And shahid is also there… ok.. girls like him… but can ny one tell me how many hits he has delivered… to b on 7th spot…
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June 17, 2011 at 6:21 AM
Lol, I would like to know the same. Shahid has never really appealed to me but most girls tend to like him for his looks more than anything else :p
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June 17, 2011 at 6:57 AM
Apart from Dharmendra and Rishi Kapoor, I don’t think any hero was giving significant solo hits during Bachchan’s peak period. I really cannot recollect any VK movie which was a big hit – Main Tulsi Tere Aangan Ki and Lahu Ke Do Rang are the only movies which come to mind where he did not star with Bachchan. It was rumoured that both Shatrughan Sinha and Vinod Khanna had problems with the producers because of thier unprofessional attitude and Osho or No Osho , VK could never have replaced Bachchan at the top
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June 17, 2011 at 7:43 AM
Agreed. The idea of VK replacing Amit is just silly.
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June 17, 2011 at 8:38 AM
Rishi didnt have many solo hits if at all after the late 70s. Even with Vinod Khanna it’s hard for me to think of any significant success of his in the late 70s-early 80s, whether solo or not, barring anything with Bachchan. Dharmendra though was quite solid through the 70s. He too wasn’t the same in the 80s barring a late resurgence around the 1987 period. admittedly he wasn’t seen by the media as more promising than Vinod Khanna in that period but the media was also eager to nominate a newer guy versus Bachchan versus someone who had been around since the 60s..
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June 17, 2011 at 10:58 AM
I don’t remember Sargam was which year, but I think that movie did really well
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June 17, 2011 at 11:20 AM
’79 or ’80.
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June 17, 2011 at 9:42 AM
I’ve paid the ultimate tribute to him here
http://bollywooddeewana.blogspot.com/2010/05/bollywood-fashion-icons-vinod-khanna.html
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June 17, 2011 at 9:52 AM
thanks.. some great shots here..
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June 17, 2011 at 11:40 AM
Nice shots…
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June 17, 2011 at 9:10 PM
@Filmifan…..My comment was never against you but for someone else, who always spoils discussions with his unfunny,irritating jokes.He said only aunties like srk and i responded to him.Sorry for this confusion.Actually when i posted my comment only “nice aunt” got posted and then i posted it again.So i think this thing has created a confusion and as a result i got this breakfast.Sorry once again.
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June 17, 2011 at 9:20 PM
BOI star rankings are purely based on boxoffice performance and at present it is Salman who is on the top.BOI should never be held responsible for pulling Amir down as he himself is responsible coz by doing less films.Same is the case with srk this time by doing just two films in last three years is never going to help.But he ll surely beat all his competitors by the end of this year and after that he has a very strong line up also.
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June 17, 2011 at 10:46 PM
One example of BOI Bullshit star ranking :
2005 :
Amitabh Bachchan (Black, B&B, Waqt, Sarkar)
Abhishek Bachchan (B&B, DUS, Sarkar)
Salman Khan (Maine Pyar Kyin Kiya, Lucky)
Akshay Kumar (Garam Masala, Waqt)
Even blind can see who were top stars of 2005 ….
But see BOI rankings of 2005 :
Shahrukh Khan –
Salman Khan No Entry, Maine Pyaar Kyun Kiya
Akshay Kumar Garam Masala, Waqt
HA HA … Do these guys have any shame ??
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June 18, 2011 at 12:08 AM
Jeevan….Boi follows a points system in star rankings in which previous years performances are also considered.If they go by your logic then they need to change rankings after every week.At present this is the only trade site on which we are bound to trust as you can better judge what happened to other such sites.Above all this is the only site which gives you updates on daily basis both of India as well as overseas.No one in this world can give you 100% correct Boxoffice collections of a movie but at least boi give somewhat near to accurate collections.
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June 21, 2011 at 10:33 AM
@ Taran, ok sorry dude thought you were talking to me since your post was posted under mine :p
Said a lot of stuff to u unnecessarily then, sorry for the misunderstanding.
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September 22, 2011 at 1:25 AM
Vinod Khanna being compared to Amitabh Bachan! No way! Amitabh is on another galaxy. Vinod Khanna is at best ordinary. He makes a good villain in old Bollywood. There’s not much to do but look villain lke in a rudimentary fashion.
On a personal front he was irresponsible to his first family. He is married currently to an obnoxious ugly snob. In south mumbai circles his current wife and her two sisters are known as Cinderella’s ugly sisters. They have major attitude for being from a so called industrialist (old world) family. Third raters.
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