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What is the need of this here in this thread? This should have been posted in a seperate thread..Anyway, Congrats in advance for Bachchan as he has been selected for a saas bahu type TV serial.
Once in a while, it would make sense — and not really an astonishing effort — to first read/watch and then comment.
With AK at the helm, if one feels this would be a ‘saas-bahu’ serial, then it is not rocket science to figure out that the jibes are actually targeted at Anurag and not AB. AB has been well-known for his poor choices anyway for decades together..
GF: While you guys were discussing the state of Indian TV on the other I was reminded of your insightful note on Saudagar (the AB starrer. Satyam had once posted it). And i thought a tv series which might interest you is Nukkad- it’s possibly one of the best examples of how something set in a ‘small-town milieu’ ends up informing a much larger pop-cultural world. This serial belonged to DD’s golden age and was helmed by none other than Saeed Akhtar Mirza. Infact it is often regarded as the first landmark show on Indian TV.
The other one which you might enjoy is Benegal’s Bharat Ek Khoj (based on Discovery of India)
Yeah I’ll have to do this at some point. The problem with television (here I mean in the US) is that there’s so much good stuff to watch it’s difficult to find the time.
Have to admit even I liked most of the us drama but British are better here even in this regard and these are easily acessible in India now
One name which has grown just big from tv it has to be cumberbatch from Sherlock who was villain in most recent star trek and ironically a global terrorist called khan
I don’t even think you buy that comment, Ami! Or maybe you’re just not watching the right stuff. But fair enough, I’m of course not really all that well-versed in the UK classic sitcoms. And these things are subjective, just think it’s going a bit too far to suggest, particularly in the last ten to twenty years when there’s really been a renaissance in American TV, that one can’t find anything to match the classics in British comedy.
british TV had some great stuff from the late 60s through the mid-80s. Since then things haven’t been the same. Since the 90s there’s been a renaissance of sorts but barring exceptions it’s still not the same as the earlier period by any stretch. Plus the period stuff even gets to be a bit much after a while even accounting for some good productions. I personally don’t think there’s any comparison with the best of American TV over the last 15 years or so. On that note British crime dramas and so forth are quite often inspired by stuff in the US these days. the very best of American TV (and I have been a latecomer to all of this myself) reaches an art form (as many have pointed out). It would be hard for anything anywhere to match this contemporary American output.
“IMO, nothing on American cable can match the wit of classic British comedy shows”—hey Amy –totally agree there…
Though lately I’m enjoying ‘new anger management’ a lot haha–have u seen it…
Btw Amy –couple of days back, I checked MUD
what are your views on mud & the great gatsby ….
By performance if we look at Dharmendra, he is the one who seems to be fully enjoying his role like a little kid. No matter how much older he gets year by year, he is and will forever be young at heart.
Saw Yeh Jawaani Hai Deewani yesterday. A typical KJo produced film IMO upgraded by a fresh lead pair who perform well enough. My usual issues apply. Too long. First half good (as it is typical Kjo formula, fun, entertaining). Second half drag. (long, melodramatic, poor editing…should have ended 30mins earlier, too many songs). Overall 3/5.
there is no doubt this completely unexpected and massive gross gives Ranbir a quantum box office leap. In addition to the other success he was having recently he could not really be in a better place than he is at the moment. This kind of box office success can elevate initials in general but anything loosely belonging to the genre will be hugely helped. And of course he has besharam coming up.
My argument for Indian tv from the last thread which was closed.
Indian tv empowered women artistes and they are the movers and shakers in all the soaps while their men play a supporting role. Except perhaps a Mahadev or BALH.
And the ladies are impeccably dressed, styled and it is a pleasure to watch their sarees, their jewels etc. Even in the hot kitchen where they spend most of the time, they are in their heavy ghunghats, best sarees! they also sleep in them with ghunghats and full makeup! And the heroines are superwomen. They try to please everybody, make tremendous sacrifices. They arely laugh but cry always so that trps increase. the glycerine sales must be skyrocketing due to Indian soaps. And the freeze shots.
They have to show these freeze shots from the saas to the dog so that the serial run forever. And there are always lookalikes, plastic surgeries etc. to add pep.
Just now the bahu of the top ranking serial found a broken bangle piece and is out to do a cid.
They always prepare ghee soaked parathas and halwas with relentless zeal. Wnenever they try to show togetherness, the wife always stitches the button while the husband still wears that shirt.
And the doors are never closed so that the others can evesdrop easily.
after watching these soaps, they become part of me just like my virtual family. I wait what that lady vamp do next like setting fire to the good one or emptying entire salt packet in the dal prepared by the good one. Will the mother in law sport that unhappy sulk forever?
And Arnab, the crusader is trying to give stiff competition to these soap ladies!
There were other good soaps. Shanti of DD, Jassi Jaisi koi nahin, Saaya, Fauji for SRK sake, Astitva Ek Prem Kahani, Sailab, Wagle ki duniya, Campus, Chunauti etc.And also Saans by Neena Gupta.
B.O. update: ‘Yamla Pagla Deewana 2’ opens well in North India
By Taran Adarsh, June 7, 2013 – 14:22 IST
As expected, YAMLA PAGLA DEEWANA-2 had a robust start in North India, which is considered a stronghold of the Deols. In other circuits, the opening response range from average to dull. However, the film faces a strong opponent in YEH JAWAANI HAI DEEWANI, which refuses to slow down at the ticket window. It would be interesting to see how strong YAMLA PAGLA DEEWANA-2 eventually is over the weekend.
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Yamla Pagla Deewana 2 had good opening of around 60 on average. The opening in Delhi/UP was very good and East Punjab was excellent with 80% plus collections. West Bengal and Mysore opened to low collections of 30-35%.
However the film has not a great release with less screenings than the film would normally have due to the super success of Yeh Jawaani Hai Deewani. Even the single screen release is not great due to Yeh Jawaani Hai Deewani being booked for two weeks at many places.
The film is likely to do better in North and Central India markets where the opening is best but with Yeh Jawaani Hai Deewani emerging a blockbuster it is not really a solo release for Yamla Pagla Deewana 2 so the reports become even more important as the weekend business will not be as strong as it would have been without the compeition.
LOS ANGELES — “If history is any indication,” a Forbes report read on May 3, “ ‘The Great Gatsby’ will bomb rather hard.” BoxOffice.com at one point projected very soft opening-weekend sales of about $24 million. Early on, several studios were so worried about the movie’s multiplex prospects that they passed on making it.
Oops.
“The Great Gatsby,” directed by Baz Luhrmann, has become the latest example of the Hollywood machinery getting audience interest wrong. “Gatsby,” adapted from F. Scott Fitzgerald’s classic novel and starring Leonardo DiCaprio in the title role, is now expected to take in at least $330 million worldwide.
With that kind of box-office success, the movie should be able to generate $200 million or so more from ancillary sources like DVD sales and reruns on cable channels, studio executives said.
Profitability is another matter, affected by unknown factors, including how compensation for Mr. DiCaprio and Mr. Luhrmann was structured. The movie was also expensive to make; executives who worked on “The Great Gatsby” contend it cost about $105 million after heftier-than-normal rebates from filming in Australia. Global marketing costs, after factoring in partnerships, ran $90 million. (Some insiders say those costs were substantially higher.)
Is it surprising that “The Great Gatsby” has succeeded? Apparently not to a lot of movie fans. Who would bet against Mr. DiCaprio in a flashy retelling of one of literature’s best-known stories?
A lot of people did. Village Roadshow, a film financier and production company, showed interest early on, agreeing to collaborate with Sony. But Sony, which had a flop with “How Do You Know” around the time “The Great Gatsby” was getting under way, decided it was too risky.
Members of Mr. Luhrmann’s management team said he then approached other studios but got one no after another: too expensive; mainstream audiences would not be interested; his last movie, “Australia,” was a disappointment.
Warner, with Village Roadshow, finally said yes, but only after Warner’s president of production, Greg Silverman, became an avid supporter of the project.
So, with the money now rolling in, is Mr. Luhrmann’s camp saying “told you so”? In true Hollywood fashion, it is gloating in private while trying — successfully, apparently — to get the word of its vindication out there.
“As an aside, Ranbir Kapoor’s 100-crore films (YJHD, Barfi) seem more impressive than those of the others because these are not really “mass” films.’ Baradwaj Rangan
Barfi’s success was a surprise while YJHD,s is not unexpected with its blockbuster songs and dances. The latter is having repeat audience. they dont care for the intricacies and they want good entertainment.
And deols chose a wrong time to release their flick. Fools rush in where angels fear to tread!
I don’t agree with this. All else being equal the mass film has an edge. In other words if a film can perform very well across the board it will obviously beat another one that does well in certain segments. However as a practical matter the mass films that do cross this mark tend to be largely ‘initial’ affairs. They generate a certain hype and then collapse. The reason this is important is that the mass film is less likely to sustain in multiplexes for a longer period of time. This is incidentally true even for some of the better masala films. Because the two most important multiplex demographics, the youth audience and the family one are both not at this point in time the core groups for masala. They show up for the big releases nonetheless and are not really satisfied with what they see. So it’s somewhat rare to have a masala film maintain that initial momentum for longer than 5-7 days. On the other hand a multiplex film that is liked reasonably can quite easily do this because the vast bulk of the gross still comes from multiplexes. Even masala films wouldn’t get to 100 or whatever that easily without reasonable multiplex participation in the initial rounds. If anything the mass film is at a certain disadvantage because if tickets sold are the same or even more (as is true in many cases) these are likely to come from centers that cannot generate the gross in the same way. And so the multiplex success often seems exaggerated. ZNMD did 90 or so, Singham did close to a 100 or something but in terms of tickets sold the difference is much more. So there are many factors here. One isn’t really comparing like for like the way the Bollywood markets work. On the other hand if Rangan had made such a statement about Tamil cinema I’d completely agree because there masala successes are not under-performers.
The 3I gross is achieved because of repeat multiplex audience more than anything else. And the Salman films can never catch up because after the initial rounds there is no multiplex participation. Which is why I said the other day that the YJHD gross indicates the extent to which masala ventures underperform. If the latter were playing to their market potential a film like YJHD despite being so successful would be way behind the comparable masala grosser. But the masala films are by and large poor products. And unlike say in TN where multiplexes are limited from jacking up prices as much there is just too great a disparity in the Hindi markets. Now it’s a different matter than most of the multiplex films are also junk and don’t have much staying power but the ones that go can get to a 100 with far less audience participation (though more multiplex participation) than masala.
that is well put satyam – sanju’s argument also has a point but the producers shd have known that they have a weaker product on hand and YJHD is going really strong but i guess these things (release) are planned well in advance….YPD’s loss will be YJHD’s gain ..
Okay lets agree with you on this point but how shameful it would be if he’ll return to it and that too on small screen?But one thing is sure that he never will as he has earned enough and he can enjoy rest of his life without doing any work.
Sanjana: “Barfi’s success was a surprise while YJHD,s is not unexpected with its blockbuster songs and dances. The latter is having repeat audience. they dont care for the intricacies and they want good entertainment.”
Wrong on all counts. The scale of success of YJHD was totally unexpected. Even after the first three days everyone as calling it a ‘ multiplex’ film. Show me one post that had predicted a 100cr opening week. Most people had thought it m may at best touch 100cr. . After all a film like Jab Tak Hai Jaan with Shahrukh, Katrina, Anushka, Yash Chopra, ARR… and Diwali release does 120 cr. If hit songs and dances could make a film a blockbuster Anjana Anjani had them too.
And people do care for intricacies. That is why when everyone agrees that the film has no ‘ story’ and the second half is ‘slow’ and ‘heavy’, they are still hooked. It is the ‘intricacies’ that is making the connection. Of course it is entertaining. But it is the soul of the film that is touching people, just as it was with 3 Idiots.
If soul matters to audience, ashiquit 2 should have done better than this flick.
Audience dont care for intricacies. Recent Salman Khan’s success is proof of this. They are purely entertainers.
JTHJ was a ridiculous film and its success is really inexplicable. I could not sit for for half an hour. In comparison Ek Tha tiger was far more entertaining and highly watchable.
Maybe so many things must have contributed to this flick’s success. KJO’s marketing, cast of the film, songs and dances, a combination of DCH, ZNMD, 3 Idiots cleverly put together. And Ranbir.
“If soul matters to audience, ashiquit 2 should have done better than this flick.”
The fact that Ashiqui 2 has done close to 80 cr proves that the soul of the film touches the audience. Otherwise how much did the industry give a non star cast romance to make? 3o cr at best!
This film has soul …and entertainment with song and dance….and Ranbir and Deepika. I mean that is why it has done so much more than Wake Up Sid which too had soul and subtleties. Which can take a film only this far. Then you have a few more ingredients lie stars, gloss and song and dance…it goes to the next level. 3 Idiots needed that one Zoobie Doobie song to make it look like a regular film, without which many regular Bollywood film goers feel cheated. That is why ZNMD needed a Senorita song. But make no mistake, a film needs soul, which a film like Dabangg too had. JTHJ did not have it, that’s why it so underperformed. The same with Talaash. If these films had really connected they could have done 200 cr and 120 cr respectively.
The targetted audience appreciated Talaash, otherwise it would not have touched 93 crores and overseas it performed more than expected. The others expected something like 3 Idiots and so were disappointed. Many loved Talaash more than 3 Idiots. That includes me.
YJHD had KJO gloss, starpower, a youth oriented subject apart from foot tapping music. Ranbir’s dances have that spontaneity which hrithik’s perfect moves lack. An abandon type of moves.These 2 are interesting study material. Ranbir seems more like the next door youngster while hrithik seems to be that reserved rich guy. Mass and Class? I happened to watch the movie in parts.
And the only soul that today’s youth knows is love, hearbreaks, love with good music(?). I feel like laughing when words like soul is attached to certain types of movies.
“That is why ZNMD needed a Senorita song. But make no mistake, a film needs soul, which a film like Dabangg too had. JTHJ did not have it, that’s why it so underperformed. The same with Talaash.”
For a movie that was entirely based on the concept of a bhatakti aatma/soul, not having a soul in itself is quite an extraordinarily paradoxical achievement as per Utkal!!
Talaash had many good things and many people liked it. But it faltered somewhere. Kahaani in the same genre without songs, without stars did 60 cr. This one with Aamir, Rani, Kareena and songs by Ram Sampat should have done 120cr. Aashiqui 2 without stars will do 80 crores. Jab Tak Hai Jaan, with SRK, Katrina and Anushak should have done 160cr. Simple. 120cr for JBHJ is good. 94 cr for Talaash is good. But if the films had made genuine connection with the audience they could have done what I have estimated. Roughly.
Expectations from Aamir will be more than from Vidya! A Vidya underperformer will not affect her that much while Aamir underperformer will be talked about more.
I did not like Kahani or EV that much. I prefer to watch where a male has also an equally good part to play. Feminists, please dont bash me! Somehow these films look incomplete for me. Ditto for Mother India and Bandini. The only female centric film which I enjoyed was Gupt!
How many Hindi flms have equally balanced roles for the male and female?
90% of Bollywood films have extremely unimportant, poorly thought out roles for the women; Kahaani might have been female centric but the entire supporting cast was male and from the insurance salesman to the policeman, they all had powerfully written and memorable characters, which is FAR more than what the vast majority of mainstream Bollywood films offer women characters.
No offence, but how do you then enjoy the Indian soaps which are also female centric?
The male in the kahani (for me) was total, complete eye candy…have watched Parambrata’s other bangla movies as well. 🙂
Even though VB was the ‘hero’ of the movie, the hero also was not weak…enjoyed his role thoroughly in the movie.
Haha sanju & Amy— seems u both are watching lots of ‘saas basu’ serials —action packed
“And the only soul that today’s youth knows is love, hearbreaks, love with good music(?). I feel like laughing when words like soul is attached to certain types of movies”—
Wow sanju–what ‘depth’ in that comment eh lol
Btw while u give me my coffee –will be interesting to know, your idea of ‘soul’ 😉
Oh man–the ‘tension’ is palpable btw Amy & sanju–cheer up gals–u both are gr8…
We will let Amy shop n splurge the Yjhd box office moolah–she deserves it …
Sanju- thanx for the coffee–im literally about to hit the road
And film this song—
Loved it’s picturisation actually –well done ranbir and ayan
Check this out gals–
Mera falsafaa kandhe pe mera basta
Chala main jahaan le chala mujhe rasta
Boondon pe nahin
Boondon ke samandar pe woh oo woh…
Cya shortly 🙂
Yeh Jawaani Hai Deewani Set For Huge Second Weekend
Saturday 8th June 2013 11.30 IST
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Yeh Jawaani Hai Deewani is set for a huge second weekend total which should go in excess of 25 crore nett. The 8th day total is around 6.50-6.75 crore nett which takes the eight day business of the film to around 113 crore nett.
The second weekend will be the second highest ever behind Three Idiots which grossed 33 crore nett approx. The next highest is Dabangg at 24 crore nett and Yeh Jawaani Hai Deewani will surpass that.
The film is sure to be the third highest grossing film of all time with an outside chance of being second highest ever. The two week business of the film will be around 150 crore or very close to that mark.
Undoubtedly, Ranbir has arrived, and arrived BIG. I was surprised with Barfi BO, never expected it to cross 100crs. But that was just an indication of how massive RK’s fan following has become. YJHD is confirmation of his starpower. A year or so earlier, it just did not seem like the young guns had it in them to challenge the Big3. Finally, an under-30 hero seems to be signalling the end of the Khan/Kumar era. We will not be subject to 45+ male buddhas cavorting with under-25 nubile beauties anymore. Whew!
Friday 7th June 2013 12.30 IST
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Yamla Pagla Deewana 2 grossed around 7-7.50 crore nett on day one as the film did well in parts of India but not so good in other parts. The collections are best in Delhi/UP, East Punjab, Rajasthan and CI but collections in Delhi/UP and East Punjab are slightly lower than Yamla Pagla Deewana while Rajasthan and CI are similar to part one.
The film has been hugely affected by the super success of Yeh Jawaani Hai Deewani which has meant that Yamla Pagla Deewana 2 is not really a solo release and probably cost the film at least 2 crore in terms of opening day collections.
Yamla Pagla Deewana 2 will need good growth over the weekend to come out with a decent weekend total. Yamla Pagla Deewana grossed around 23 crore nett in its first weekend and it is looking same range for Yamla Pagla Deewana 2.
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Aashiqui 2 has now nearly touched 78 crore nett in six weeks. The film’s super steady run was halted by the release of Yeh Jawaani Hai Deewani but it will finish at around 79 crore nett which is outstanding for such a film. The first six week collections of Aashiqui 2 are as follows.
Week One – 34.65 crore
Week Two – 17.35 crore
Week Three – 11.48 crore
Week Four – 7.39 crore
Week Five – 5.80 crore
Week Six – 1.20 crore
Ranbir Kapoor is doing exceptionally great .. But I still believe he is not even half as charismatic as Khans (Salman mainly) and khans again are not even 5% as charismatic as Amitabh.
Ranbir is following Aamir model post 2000 in choosing movies and of course he possess very good acting capabilities and looks. This mix of modus operandi and talent working In his favor exactly same way as Aamir khan post Lagaan. Only difference is what Aamit achieved quite very late in his career, Ranbir got it quite very early (At age less than Debut age of Amitabh).
I heard today that Aditya Roy Kapoor is signed for Yash Raj films next movie paring with Pareenita Chopra … having a gut feel that Aditya roy fan base immensely increased after Aashiqui-2. Looks like we are ignoring contribution of his fanbase in smashing success of YJHD. Otherwise who would have think this movie going past 100 Crore in one week ?? (Except Amod Mehra or Jaju).
But that fanbase is limited to genre and stritctly its still one dimensional in case of both
Always used to wonder how aditya kapoor used to get all plum role…was akshay and aishearya child in time machine and shared important role with both Salman and what so its nothing new its just now a big ruar
As for ranbir he is still to choclaty and has done harmless role nothing game changer as such
“I don’t have a personality like Salman Khan or Shah Rukh Khan that I can be myself and the film will be a huge hit. I have to be a character,” he added.
Since starting his career in Bollywood, Ranbir has appeared only in ten full-fledged films. The actor says he is not multi-talented to do more than one project at a time.
Aditya kapoor whose brother heads utv(both ashqui2 and yjhd) are utv production and has vidya balan as babhi and ranbir who again got everthing on platter and that includes big production houses and bannners
ranbir hasn’t done much risky role with shades either and most of these are crowd pleasing movie….let them have some concrete body of work first
How many theories! How many explanations! Success is success and it needs no explanations. Ranbir’s success made one thing certain. That Salman is not the only god ruling the boxoffice. And Ranbir is different from Aamir in more ways than one. I dont know how 2 persons whose appraoch to films are so different can be compared! The way they choose directors and scripts! Is heady success the only criterion to judge whether an actor is worth or not? Was not ranbir good in rajneeti or barfi? What is this percentage nonsense? Instead of enjoying the success of stars, the fans of each star has become so insecure that they start blabbering. Why should any star’s success make others so insecure? The same thing is happening in cricket. If we can worship so many gods, why dont we apply the same to these things as well? Is this mother in law syndrome? As soon as daughter in law enters, the mother in law becomes so insecure! The son will no longer think the mother is the best!
terms like greatest star actor and most talented one without complete body of work is ridiculous anyway and resort to blabbering of highest order and there is nothing called % nonsense but genre limitation which is evident from body of work to run things commercially
He is harmless but never will be game changer with such roles
Thing is when big stats have not been spared of criticism including salman of his choices then is there any golden rule justifying not to touch current flavour of the month
For record none of his movie have any shelf life except rajniti where he to was not the best thing around
When Salman Khan was and is giving blockbusters, everyone started to find new virtues in him and trashed the other stars for not having those virtues. When Ranbir has given this latest blockbuster, the same thing is happening. Finding virtues, trashing the others for not having these virtues and taking digs at Salman’s supposed invincibility. This is showbiz and of course weak souls like Jiah Khan cant take it anymore. When one socialite journalist tried to shed crocodile tears over Jiah’s suicide, almost everyone of her readers blamed her for her scathing and critical remarks on failed stars and starlets.
Salman was the most ridiculed and least commercial star of last decade intact when he only went to tv and did did dus ka dum and later jitendra model of south Indian remake is back in buzz
For record allmost all ranbir movies are with big production houses or with big directors..
He is yet to venture out and even this is first for any newcomer
rockstar: For record none of his movie have any shelf life except rajniti where he to was not the best thing around” Totally wrong. Rajneeti has no shelf life. And Ranbir was certainly what made the difference and made it stand out from other Prakash Jha films.
On the other hand, it is YJHD, Barfi, Rockstar and Wake Up Sid..are the films with a long shelf life and can be revisited for glimpses of brilliance and artistic achievement.
This kid is the most happening one at the present. But I will still wait for couple of more movies. Every major star has atleast a decade and a half to prove what he or she is.
How can U see shelf life of yjhd which has just released…prakash jha and devgan won national award before first do remember the only dialogue karara jawab denge from vajpayee
Barfi was hyped to hilt and was sent to Oscar in place of deserving candidate…what reps are this movie generating when they are coming to satelite…are they even talked about lol
Rockstar was India used adaptation of jommy Morrison life ala doors and that rockstar phenomenon with easy music was repeated in ashqui2 with tearjerkers….such fantacy are easilly appealable to teens
Yeh Jawani Hai Deewani Has Fantastic Second Saturday
Saturday 9th June 2013 14.30 IST
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Yeh Jawaani Hai Deewani had a fantastic second Saturday with business around the 9.50 crore nett mark taking its two day second weekend to a huge 16.25 crore nett with Sunday to come.
The film total so far for the film is around 123 crore nett which already makes it the seventh highest grossing film ever. The film is rocking North India where it will cross the business of even Three Idiots and be second only to Ek Tha Tiger.
The second Friday and Saturday of Yeh Jawaani Hai Deewani is as follows
taran adarsh @taran_adarsh 2h
#YehJawaaniHaiDeewani [2nd Week] Fri 7 cr, Sat 10.25. Total: 124.86 cr. All set for second highest *second weekend* after #3Idiots [33 cr].
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Yamla Pagla Deewana 2 failed to grow on Saturday as collections dropped around 10%. The collections on Saturday were 6.25-6.50 crore nett with collections down in most circuits.
The film has collected around 13.50 crore nett in two days and will probably collect 21-22 crore nett over its first weekend which is lower than Yamla Pagla Deewana. The first two day business of Yamla Pagla Deewana is as follows
A friend of mine pointed this it may be first when 3 real brothers are involved in movie
Aditya kapoor red hot in multiplexes after ashqui 2…….kunal Roy kapoor for playing kalkis hubby after nautanki saala and siddhharth Roy the head of utv
Dey has been honored with the titles Padma Shri and Padma Bhushan.
The following is the list of Manna Dey’s other awards:
1969 National Film Award for Best Male Playback Singer for the Hindi Film Mere Huzur
1971 National Film Award for Best Male Playback Singer for the Bengali film Nishi Padma and Hindi film Mera Naam Joker [7][8]
1971 Padma Shri Award by Government of India
1972 Filmfare Award for Best Male Playback Singer for Mera Naam Joker
1985 Lata Mangeshkar Award awarded by Government of Madhya Pradesh
1988 Michale Sahittyo Puraskar awarded by Renaissance Sanskritik Parishad, Dhaka
1990 Shyamal Mitra Award by Mithun Fans Association
1991 Sangeet Swarnachurr Award awarded by Shree Khetra Kala Prakashika, Puri
1993 P.C.Chandra Award by P.C.Chandra Group & others
1999 Kamala Devi Roy Award by Kamala Devi Group
2001 Anandalok Lifetime Award by the Anandabazar Group
2002 Special Jury Swaralaya Yesudas Award for outstanding performance in music
2003 Alauddin Khan Award by the Government of West Bengal
2004 National Award as Playback singer by Government of Kerala
2004 Hony D. Lit Award by the Rabindra Bharati University
2005 Lifetime Achievement award by the Government of Maharashtra
2005 Padma Bhushan Award by the Government of India
2007 First AKSHAYA Award by Government of Orissa
2007 Awarded the Dada Saheb Phalke Award by the Government of India
2008 Hony D. Lit Award by Jadavpur University
2011 Filmfare Lifetime Achievement Award
2011 Banga-Vibhushan by Government of West Bengal
Actress Priyanka Chopra’s father Dr. Ashok Chopra breathed his last today at the Kokilaben Ambani hospital in Mumbai. He was suffering from cancer since 2008 and had undergone several medical surgeries. The Chopra clan including the actress, her mother and younger brother were with him at the time of death.
Just yesterday we reported how Priyanka has put aside work assignments and has been spending all her time praying for her father’s recovery. On Friday, Priyanka had organised a Mahamrityunjay puja at her home, for her daddy’s recovery.
Though Ranbir or his father are not the kinds of people who would have stuff ‘written’ for them Bollywoodhungama has become a total advertising machine for Ranbir over the past week or more. This Joginder piece is just one example:
Having said that I do agree with the central point that Besharam following on the heels of YJHD is best suited in terms of genre to take maximum advantage of the latter’s huge success. The initial should be fantastic. And if Kashyap can create just as much watchability as Dabanng here Ranbir could have two monsters in a row.
June 9, 2013, 1:31 pm 8 Comments
‘The Purge’ Leads at the Box Office
By BROOKS BARNES
It was another grim box office weekend for mainstream movie stars, as a micro-budgeted horror film, “The Purge,” crushed Owen Wilson and Vince Vaughn in “The Internship.” A mere $3 million to make, “The Purge” (Universal Pictures) surprisingly dominated North American theaters, taking in an estimated $36.4 million, according to Hollywood.com, which compiles box office data.
“Fast & Furious 6” (Universal) was second, taking in about $19.8 million, for a three-week total of $202.9 million. The holdover “Now You See Me” (Lionsgate) finished third, with estimated ticket sales of $19.5 million, for a two-week total of $61.4 million. “The Internship,” which cost Fox and New Regency about $58 million to make, was a disappointing fourth, taking in about $18.1 million. And the animated “Epic” (Fox) was fifth, selling $12.1 million in tickets, for a three-week total of $84.2 million.
Why did audience interest surge for “The Purge”? Universal and Blumhouse Productions backed the horror movie with a savvy social media marketing campaign. The concept was also fresh: in the movie’s futuristic plot, any and all crime is legalized during one 12-hour period each year. “The Internship,” on the other hand, was lambasted by some critics as a glorified infomercial for Google, and its marketing campaign, in particular its outdoor advertisements, appeared to copy the playbook of comedies past.
Haha Satyam–‘ affected’ is an understatement here…in this box office rampage….
Btw they have released portions of ‘subhanallah’
Dedicated to the spoof
What poetry–what depth…
Btw deepika looked cuter /sexier in these glasses —than without
Those like Satyam who were waiting for bikinis won’t understand…
Btw amy–I actually won’t mind deepika in NOTHING BUT these glasses 🙂
“But if YJHD is a protracted ad for the likes of makemytrip.com and FoxTraveller, it can also have a curious touch of the real if, like protagonist Bunny (charming Ranbir), you too have been a nomad at heart. To the world you might seem an irresponsible, selfish and confused rake but that’s what you are: a rolling stone on a journey in life. A journey that may have a few stops on the way but no definite arrivals. This “banjarapan” is captured well in Amitabh Bhattacharya’s lyrics for the song Kabira: Kisi thaur tike na paanv. The one to implicitly understand the drifter is the father, played with affection and grace by Farooque Sheikh. Or the dignified step-mother, Tanvi Azmi, who doesn’t want his passion for travel to die. These are brief roles, but standout performances—the scenes between them give the film its emotional wallop.
The counterpoint to Ranbir is his giddy, blustery good at heart friend, played with spontaneity by Kalki Koechlin, who, despite unrequited love, decides to home in on another who cares for her. Or the hawt-in-specs heroine Naina (Deepika), who doesn’t believe in waiting. As the film states, none of them is ‘wrong’, only ‘different’ in the way they deal with relationships. It’s these warp and weft of urban relationships that could have been explored more. Instead, Ayan Mukherjee takes the accepted way out. He makes the traveller hero halt and settle down when he could have let him carry on, if not alone then in the company of someone significant. The traveller in me, ultimately, returned disappointed.” Nmarta Joshi.
( Namrata: I was not disappointed precisely because for a change a girl had her way than the guy.)
Ranbir may not of this type of heady success too soon. So I wont grudge him all these accolades. Films are not mathematical formulas to follow a pattern. They are always a case of diminishing marginal returns. Madhuri could not replicate the case of stupendous success after HAHK. Even Salman is facing some resistance.
A big success carries with it its own negative baggage for the future. The expectations will be more and if he fails to touch the same level of success, he will be termed as a fluke.
don’t think he’s going anywhere. He’s making the right choices. And he has this great narrative to support him as well. I’m not arguing against him either, just commenting on a certain media reception which strikes me as being absurd in its hyperbole.
media’s job is to create hype (to sell its content)…remember not so long ago there was really huge hype, hoopla and anticipation around Vivek Oberoi and he was tauted as next biggest star…today he is nowhere (though a certain SK is credited with destroying his career and am not sure how much truth in that). Same with Shahid Kapoor, the youth icon.
The reviews are overwhelmingly bad–so bad that its impossible to find ONE good review. Had little opther options, so checked it out yesterday since my instinct told me it cant be that bad (reasonable at the v least)–luckily my instinct was right…
Liked it and enjoyed it…
Neither the Summer blockbuster, nor is it pathbreaking but crap it certainly aint!
I have been irritated by Will Smiths attempts at nepotism for some time & was wary of his son a lot.But its a warm bonding movie with a bit of soul –yes for all the visual pyrotechnics, this is missin in many sci-fi flicks.
Will smith shows flashes of his star power (briefly) and sits back–literally with a fractured femur..Its a cross between Oblivion and some other action adventure/alien flicks but importantly it kept me awake and moderately entertained throughout the duration.
I can say the same about some other ‘biggies’–
Nap time in Iron man 3 was about 10 min
Oblivion was about 15 min
in this one, it was zero
BUt thats not the only credit–
Think theres something perverse in the negativity…
When i read this before watching the film, i laughed out loud
i LOL @ racism sabotaging this film….BUT
after watching the film, i wasnt sure….
and im not alone….
ps—how can WIll Smith have the audacity to indulge in naked nepotism and get his son (another black) to the centrestage in a blockbuster aspirant role
and to top it all… directed by Manoj n shyamalan
who has been hidden in publicity but how can he be hidden from the meida coterie….
Anyhow, i suspect that this will be the last Will Smith Summer Blockbusters….
Just like, I said goodbye to SRK in JTHJ….
Adieu Will Smith–u were gr8 while u lasted…
To add– i was reminded repeatedly of BnB and Sarkaar, where in a still charismatic and much superior dad held back to let the son tkae in the limelight.
The “dad” failed in this attempt in both scenarios
The result was worthwhile /reasonable
As for SHyamalan, the poor guy is already bad news. He creates his most ‘normal’ ‘conventional’ movie till date and keeps it simple!
and here it gets torn apart for keeping it simple!
Unfortunately he isnt a Tarantino who can get away wiht murder andbehave obscenely in interviews (and still manage to get defenders)!!
—imo only partly correct but does has some weight!
The above is perhaps the ONLY semi positive/ non-negative review on After Earth….in the whole blogosphere….
Apparently on certain portals, the one or two reviewers who said something remotely positive–their credibilty was questioned by the coterie and they had to back down.
Unfortunately i had/have/will have no such compulsion !!
Here comes the easy punching bag…but a star reality which is yuva and bunty or bubli both where offered to hrithik Roshan who chickened out and sarkar to akshay kumar
neither the Yuva (certainly not for the Lallan part) nor the Sarkar story is correct. And even BnB is a much more ‘complicated’ story. The thing is films are often offered to different stars at various stages for all sorts of reasons. If one started making such a list it would be encyclopedic! Beyond this various stars are mentioned at different points in a film’s production process. Some of this info gets leaked out and it becomes an actual ‘offer’ where there has been none. Of course one shouldn’t take 99% of the stuff that is written about in the film media seriously. It is either totally false, largely false or somewhat true but false in its ‘narrative’. Here it’s always interesting to think of stars who supposedly keep refusing the choicest projects!
Wait wait wait… Gf aka girlfriends has picked up this fact–so what if it is damn obvious —so what if gf missed the ‘anti-joke’ ‘off-colour’ humour here !!!
Errr if gf doesn’t know it, it surely doesn’t exist -innit..
Gf also missed the possibility of mixed race kids —
(Though jaden smith is 3/4 black technically)— but any how let’s applaud gf for again voluntarily announcing she is ‘gorillas friend aka gf’ 🙂
Trust me buddy –I agree with that …but to be honest, there’s not many words u have ever posted here (& as many others have pointed out) that do not smack of fake snob-appeal and pretentious word play– that doesn’t equal context & content…!!
Obviously I’m not forcing u to agree –as for ‘bad jokes’ unsure what has forced u to spend aeons readin them, dissecting them and then finally coming with such an imbecile misinterpretation of them ( as above) & above all thinking uve been smart!!
Ps: anyhow this wasn’t meant to be a ‘mauling’–so relax..
As for ‘anti jokes’ and ‘post-modern humour’ I think u are too ‘intellectual’ to get the grip –just leave em
They are not for ‘gorillas’ 🙂 (sorry çouldnt resist)
And a friendly suggestion gf—if u don’t mind
Obviously I’m not at all at the level of these esteemed posters–but word play and flowery language isn’t a substitute for content and context
Just by watching /reading Shakespeare isn’t good.
As examples –try reading the posts of q, munna, Amy, anu, annjo(pencho) and finally Satyam…u may benefit..
And plz don’t spend time on my post modern humour–it’s not worth your while (& is infact beyond u as of now) 🙂
“what has forced u to spend aeons readin them, dissecting them and then finally coming with such an imbecile misinterpretation of them ( as above) & above all thinking uve been smart!!”
It’s doesn’t take all that long to read your commentary alex, and you spam this site so it’s kind of difficult to circumvent the constant stream of garbage you spew out, especially when much of it is begging for attention. And I’ll admit some of this is pretty amusing but not for the reasons you think. It’s kind of like seeing an animal attempting speech. Finally, I’m never in the habit of dissecting flatulence. I just don’t mind pointing out when something stinks.
As always I apologize to Satyam for my lack of grace. I’ll step away from this lovely discussion.
Relax gf– I didn’t intend to offend u (frankly)
Btw Oh I forgot utkal uncle, sanju, Oldgold & Di– to tell u the truth– they all make sense (& that’s what matters)
This is not a ‘creative writing’ context–& do pass on this message to your friend and guide b Rangan 🙂
Ps– c’mon gf— kool it maan…u r the rockstar…
And I admit to all those transgressions hahaha
Yeh Jawaani Hai Deewani Set To Emerge The Second Biggest Grosser Ever
Tuesday 11th June 2013 09.30 IST
Boxofficeindia.Com Trade Network
Yeh Jawaani Hai Deewani is set to emerge the second biggest grosser ever of Hindi cinema looking at its second week trends. The film is all set to cross the business of Ek The Tiger and finish around the 190 crore nett mark.
The way the film is going it will cross 150 crore nett in two weeks and will show a 55% drop in week two. This trend is likely to be easily repeated again next week as Fukhrey is no Yamla Pagla Deewana 2 so there will not be that second Friday fall that Yeh Jawaani Hai Deewani saw this week.
Yeh Jawaani Hai Deewani will be at 172-173 crore nett after three weeks at a minimum and should then go past the 186 crore nett total of Ek Tha Tiger.
The third week is very important in terms of where the film goes, if it holds stronger than this week due to the weaker competition then even a challenge of Three Idiots record figure of 200 crore nett is not ruled out. A 45% drop in week three will take the film very close to 180 crore nett in three weeks and then it will have very good chances of crossing 200 crore nett.
What can be easily determined by YJHD’s performance is a number of biggies, especially the more massy types have underperformed since 3 Idiots. Having seen YJHD, there is nothing “special” about it but it is still an outside threat to the 200 crore barrier…in fact if it had a clean run it probably would have got close. But none of the past 4 years’ big films have even endeavoured to this! And this is a pretty multiplex friendly film on the whole.
Maybe a somewhat perfect storm of timing, promotion, fresh lead pair, pop music helped give this film buzz…but quite obviously you’d like to think a Katrina-Salman or SRK-Katrina starrer had and should have a bit more going for it!
In current currency, If they have 3 Idiots like appreciation, more than 300 crore. Hum Aapke Hain Kaun – I can not estimate 🙂 Gadar somewhere in between.
I agree with those points munna and Satyam…
Those films WILL do much more now as u pointed out–due to market expansion, unconventional audiences, inflation etc
BUT what nobody had ever mentioned ever is–
How is one so sure that the audiences of NOW will respond to them in the same orgasmic manner as then–as noted trends/tastes/preferences of audiences change month to month really… So yeah they are still likely to work in a big way but I’m not sure if a ‘logarithmic’ or exponential graph can give the exptrapolared final box office figures–
But it’s not about how audiences would react to older films ‘now’ but about what the equivalent of those older films would be today if it were liked in the same way.
Of course.. when I saw chalti ka naam gaadi last time, it looked more like a kid movie. Our tastes change. I see 90s movie and cringe at clothes during that time. But there are movies which garner audience appreciation more than the normal and they do extra business. Be it Sholay or Hum Aapke Hain Kaun, Gadar or 3 Idiots (to some extent..It was liked more in multiplex than mass areas but there were repeat audience). In that sense ETT or Dabangg-1 or YJHD are good performers but nothing extraordinary. If they have similar audience appreciation they would have done business as I said above not touching or nearing benchmark.
Good point munna–I felt the same about chalti ka Naam whatever–also unsure how much sholay/gaddar etc would be liked by today’s audiences–actually it’s difficult to predict…
I dont think it is a matter of these mass films underperforming.It is just that they werent liked that much and hteir final grosses owed a large part to massive initials. This is the point Satyam,myself and others have been making all along. And, idiots always used to argue using the final gross that they were ‘successful’ films. This actually reinforces the trending theory! A film that opens big if liked can go onto more than triple their opening weekend. A lot of people have argued that the final figureis the only thing that matters and not how it got there. But, this proves that even those final grosses arent really a sign of a successor acceptance of a movie.
yes.. how is it possible to say that YJHD is a blockbuster (I agree) but say the same for ETT which was a mass film (and therefore potentially a lot more eyeballs and in addition had a vastly bigger week number)? In other words both films might end up at the same number or YJHD might do somewhat less than that or more (depending on the weeks ahead). The expectations from ETT were 150 crores at the very least and actually more. And the film lived upto these by doing 150 or so in the first 7-9 days or so. And then it more or less collapsed. On the other hand YJHD will probably end up doing double (at the very least) of what was expected from it in the best case scenario. The two cannot be compared in any universe. All the final gross arguments are as you rightly say completely bogus.
I am a little bemused by this talk of ‘ underperforminmg’ by everyone. Isn’t t it be more meaningful to say films like 3 Idiots and to a lesser extent, ETT or YJHD have performed wonderfully.
Otherwise one can . look at Picasso’s output and say ,’ Look how the other artists underperformed!’. Or one can look at Mahatma Gandhi and say , ‘ Look how the other politicians underperrform!’. Whom we call ‘genius’ , ‘great’ or ‘ brilliant’ is with respect to the average.
there is a kind of comparison that renders one’s language meaningless. Of course it doesn’t hold in this case even otherwise since the problem with mass films isn’t about how good or bad they are but that they’re clearly not satisfying even their core audience enough. When they do on the rare occasion trending is very good. This is true for a film that opened at the somewhat lower end like Singham and faced competition from ZNMD eventually and equally it is true for Ghajini which broke all opening records at the time and was nonetheless extraordinarily stable. Rajneeti itself was masala enough and it too trended well. We’ve been hearing these excuses for years but from the multiple end of the equation (ZNMD or Barfi) to the mass end films that are truly liked show a minimally strong trending. This debate isn’t about whether the films are good or bad. Even doing 200 crores doesn’t necessarily imply a great film! No one’s saying YJHD is even DDLJ let alone anything more. But the film has clearly been sufficient for its base. No one would argue against a film that opened at 45 crores and went on to do 90. Or a 70 crore opener going on to 140 or a bit less. We’re talking about films having the vast bulk of their gross in the first 5-7 days. In Hollywood plenty of ‘nothing’ films are still expected to maintain a certain trending. So leaving aside the absurdity of certain comparisons even the at the very basic level the logic doesn’t hold. We call those painters average who are not greats like Picasso or Matisse or whoever but nonetheless produce important works on their own. We don’t call those average who don’t even display a basic talent level! No one expects Gambhir to play like Sachin. But he can’t come back after scoring 10 or 20 each time! if he did there would be a problem!
NO real market exists on hypothetical figures
The ASSUMPTION is that figures can go on and on if a liked movie does not ‘underperform’
I politely disagree–
A) the slope of the graph decreases -as item goes by after release
B) multiple complex factors kick in like
Piracy
Telly
Other coexistent events
Distractions
Other releases
Fatigue
Waning interest
C) pool of people who NEVER /can’t view films is a constant
And so on…
Also one can agree that 3 idiots was a MUCH better film besides having aamir, hirani, munnabhai, momentum, and a good storyline and perfect confluence of mass and class…
Then a counter question is –inspite of being SO MCUH better, why did it do only 200 odd…
Agreed that correcting for inflation, market expansion, it will do much more now–but how can one be sure that the audience tastes/profiles/ responses today will be the same
Till the time a film actually trumps the 3I target, that’s the REAL score–the rest are conjectures …
And no real transactions happen on imagination
Ofcourse one can opine and hypothesise on blogs -doesn’t take a penny–but that’s not the real world…
If one says the distance between Jhumri Talaya and Dhanbad is the same as or double the distance between New York and Boston , one is not saying Boston is same as Jhumri Talaya or Dhanbad is same as Boston. No one is even comparing the two. One is merely comparing the distance between the two.
Satyam: ” No one’s saying YJHD is even DDLJ let alone anything more.: I , for one, am saying , I acfre more for YJHD than DDLJ., which is the usual Aditya Chopra trash, though the best among his three efforts. In my review, I have explained why YJHD is unlike DDLJ or KKHH and why it has some thing more genuine at the core compared to DDLJ or KKHH.
“No one expects Gambhir to play like Sachin. But he can’t come back after scoring 10 or 20 each time! if he did there would be a problem!” Sure. But if Sachin scores 100 and Gambhir scores 50, and most others score 20 or 30, you don’t say Gambhir is underperformimg. you say Sachin is a genius. The one who scores 20 or less is the underperformer. If Chris Ggayle scores 160, ven those who score 60 are not called underperformers. You just call Gayle extraordinary.
Box-office aside, finally caught the film on big screen and liked it quite a bit. I agree with BR’s take in that it is not neccessarily a great film but has some brilliant moments. The plot line and treatment draws obvious comparisions to ZNMD which also I liked quite a bit but prefer this over ZNMD. There is a decent filmamker inside Aayan Mukherjee and there are some really splendid moments that connect. Someone mentioned DDLJ. There is really no comparision there. This is a far more accomplished film and Mukherjee is a far better director than Aditya. I certainly would not put this film in that candyfloss category.
The performances are uniformly excellent. Some have said this is Deepika’s film. I beg to differ. This is by far her best outing and she does admirably well but the film is anchored by Ranbir and he is excellent. So are Kalki and Kapur. Some very likeable cameos from Farooq Sheikh and the guy who plays Kalki’s fiancee/husband. The way that character is treated reveals a lot about Aayan. Very nicely done. It would have been so easy to portray himn as a bumbling baffoon.Instead, Aayan imprts a certain grace and dignity to his character. Pritam’s score is excellent. Some have felt the film drags in the second half but I didnt find it so. Aayan does succumb to BO pressures quite a bit but not a crime in my book.
Put SRK in stead of Ranbir and you would have butchered the movie 😉
ps – It follows DDLJ template in the sense, Boy is carefree ( you need to make him more carefree[hence self proclaiming flirt] than 90s SRK because it is 20 years later), girl is seedhi saadhi. Go on a trip…Second half they meet at Marriage venue with obvious liking for each other. If Aditya makes DDLJ now, it probably would look similar.
Even if it is a joke, I find the insinuation offensive. I dont think it would be the same film with even a young SRK in place of Ranbir as Ibelieve Ranbir isa far btter performer and more charismatic. But, that IS food for thought. Had SRK been more involved in this kind of films and IF he had Ranbir’s off scren persona and likeability, may be my views and treatment of SRK and his fans could have been different!
Munna,
Just one example- look at Farooq Sheikh is porrayed here as opposed the caqricature that Kher’s character was in DDLJ.
There really is no comparision here. As you point out there are some superficial similarities here but the treatment and products are vastly different. Chalk and cheese or like comparing a melodious gazal to a loud item song!
Aaditya made JTHJ ( really, he did tho Yashji had the credit) and one can see the difference between Aaditya of 2013 and Aayan of 2013. BTW, not really offended. Was just trying to make you feel bad-:).
also think SRK is fine during this phase. Had a certain flamboyance that went well with those films. It doesn’t seem as fresh as it once did but he still works in this film and some others surrounding it. Which doesn’t mean it’s a great performance or anything (!), just that he’s right for that terrain in ways that Aamir for example couldn’t be.
Yes, it does but I think largely due to SRK’s boundless energy, the SRK-Kaajol chemistry and the score. I still think as a film it is prety mediocre but certainly, SRK’s best in a strictly commercial format ( I still regard Chak De as his best overall and am not too fond of his Swades performance) and he deserves a lot of credit for its success.
It’s mediocre, true but it is so in the way a lot of classics are mediocre. Not saying this is the best example of such a classic but leaving aside ideological issues (which I of course have with it) it is not inferior to say the average Shammi Kapoor film. Now one might prefer the latter for the music or whatever but the scripts were rarely better than DDLJ’s. It’s not like the best of Rajesh Khanna where the films had strong scripts.
Is DCH on the other hand superior to DDLJ? Absolutely.
DDLJ is a classic. One doesn’t need to like a classic to acknowledge it as one. I’d agree with Satyam on that score. Also that KKHH is impossible to watch now too. I think Aditya was OK as a director…in all his 3 films, DDLJ/Mohabbatein/RNBDJ he has his moments. And I’d take DDLJ over YJHD anyday of the week…for a start, the music is about 50 billion times better IMO.
Yes but the scenario here is of Gambhir playing a very fluent 10-20 and then getting out most of the time when he could very easily make 50 or a 100. One could hardly say that a century isn’t possible except when it’s Sachin!
Utkal, the problem with your argument is that these ‘underperforming’ films were proclaimed to be massive hits which they were not. They did make money for all/most of those involved but werent really ‘liked’ or ‘accepted’ as much. YJHD has shown once again how a really well liked film performs.If one goes back and looks at the epithets bestowed upon those films in question, you will realise the unfairness of your argument. I dont have a problem with Sachin- Gambhir argument but those ‘underperforming’ films were being treated as Sachin and there in lies the problem!
A surprisingly good and balanced review there by rajen uncle…
Time also for rajen uncle to call back poor anu and some others he has inadvertently scared away by his Bachchan fandom 🙂
yes genius scares some.. that shouldn’t prevent the rest of us from appreciating the likes of Bachchan or Sachin or whoever it happens to be along these lines! I am a militant about these things. I’m all for the iconoclastic. However if the lines between the authentically great and the totally mediocre are constantly blurred as they are in today’s discourse one must give such commentary the response it deserves!
Now, I have to take a shower!
All kiddin aside, I have often said that there is a movie buff inside Alex that is a welcome presence but is lost amidst constant posturing and attempts at oneupmanship and desparate attention seeking.
And would have to say that there IS a sensible voice in rajen uncle –if he is not drowned in bachchan fandom.
It’s good to be a fan (esp of the likes of bachchan sr) but one shouldn’t take this ‘policing’ of anti bachchan comments to the extreme imo..
Actually genuine legends like bachchan (sr) don’t need such defense..
Ps: as for taking a shower, certain ‘sins’ don’t get washed away by that –joking 🙂
genuine legends like Bachchan also don’t need some of the madness that some folks launch at them! The thing is one can’t have it both ways. You can’t say crazy stuff about a titan and then when someone defends him (or her) say that ‘oh a legend needs no defense’! Now perhaps the mad should be ignored. that’s a different point. But in which case the ‘defense’ is also aimed at highlighting the madness!
I get your point Satyam–but think that some like poor anu were treated in an excessive manner due to their bachchan comments –she wasn’t like some other compulsive bachchan haters who turn up here
Satyam–Time for u to show some ‘ maturity’ & ‘magnanimity’ and make an ‘announcement’ for the ‘wronged’ like anu and Oldgold to start posting again…
didn’t think Anu had left because of that exchange. As for Oldgold I told her more than once not to leave. Ultimately it’s everyone’s will and wish but I think people shouldn’t take online stuff so personally.
the other thing here and this gets back to the earlier point but it’s a bit silly to posit some kind of Bachchan ‘fandom’ as being the equivalent of just any other kind. A bit like saying being a Sachin fanatic is the same as being a Dhoni fanatic! Now an unthinking attitude isn’t useful anywhere in life. However when one is talking about titans the one defending them also cannot be expected to provide a complete resume of their achievements each and every time. Perhaps one shouldn’t make the effort to defend the legend before some very mad attacks, that’s a different issue. But the idea that somehow it’s all the same is ridiculous. So while one shouldn’t be a fanatic in any situation some subjects are more worthy of this sentiment than others. It’s harder to overrate Sachin than Gambhir!
Secondly those who get into this stuff should also have done some of their own homework. A lot of people just aren’t familiar with the movies, they don’t know what they’re talking about, their comments reveal this, and then they feel their opinions should be given as much weight as anything else. Not referring to Anu here by the way, just making a general point. It’s fine if one isn’t aware of some of the histories but then one shouldn’t substitute informed opinion with these imaginary positions.
the ethical responsibility doesn’t run only in one direction! One is expected to know what one is commenting on! It’s not good enough to say ‘I’ll catch Kaala Pathar next week but in the meantime here’s my opinion on Amitabh Bachchan’! Or if it’s a limited opinion in this sense it should be highlighted as such. I have enormous respect for Mohanlal, I’ve seen a number of his important films but despite the fact that I’ve only been impressed with what I’ve seen I’m very conscious of the fact that I haven’t seen a very great deal. I just don’t have that sense of complete judgement (for want of a better term) with his work. Because I haven’t even seen all the iconic films. This matters.
and then there are SRK fans who proudly say SRK turned down Munnabhai. I’m glad that he did but if I were a fan I’d be pretty embarrassed about this! Much as Abhishek turning down not one but both important parts in RDB is his single most mystifying decision. Specially given his other risky choices.
Munna”; “If Aditya makes DDLJ now, it probably would look similar.” He wrote and produced Jab tak Hai Jaan..and it is even more puerile than DDLj..with 70’s stuff like retrogade amnesia. YJHD is nothing like the DDLJ template. Naian is not seedhi sadhi. Sje is an introvert but knows who she is and brings Bunny to his knees. And Bunny is not carefree. He gets a schol to study in a reouted institite in US. Does well in his profession. And you will not got a SINGLE moment like the conversation between Bunny and Avi. Ayan is about a zillion light years ahead of Aditya as a writer and filmmaker. And Ranbir is a far subtler actor than SRK. Anda better student of cinema…which shows in his work.
Re: If Aditya makes DDLJ now, it probably would look similar.” He wrote and produced Jab tak Hai Jaan..and it is even more puerile than DDLj..with 70′s stuff like retrogade amnesia. YJHD is nothing like the DDLJ template
🙂 If Ramesh Sippy directs Zamana Deewana that doesn’t take away Sholay? There are many reasons a person can choose not to direct a movie on certain line.
If I start nitpicking: How old was Ranbir to go to undergraduate college in Chicago that too on scholarship for Journalism which is very rare to get for international students. Taking into account he was with Deepika’s class in primary and she was studying medicine at start of the movie. Was he failing in his class or preparing for TOEFL that he still needed to start undergrad.
“Naian is not seedhi sadhi. Sje is an introvert but knows who she is and brings Bunny to his knees.” So do you think Kajol was any different? When she made a carefree and noncommittal guy run to India?
“And Bunny is not carefree.” – What was his character like ?
“And you will not got a SINGLE moment like the conversation between Bunny and Avi.” – Do you find Kajol and SRK conversations in Europe boring/dull?
“And Ranbir is a far subtler actor than SRK. Anda better student of cinema…which shows in his work.” – How?
“How old was Ranbir to go to undergraduate college in Chicago that too on scholarship for Journalism which is very rare to get for international students. ”
Since this is KJO’s venture, Ranbir is funded by the nexus amongst SRK, Mukesh Ambani & wife, and the Indian Association in the University..just as SRK was a ‘prestigious’ but nonetheless mysteriously ‘selected’ guest at Yale..
Lol, An Jo!
Munna,buddy- you are clutching at straws-:). But, honestly , if you dont find a difference between Aditya and Ayan, between DDLJ and YJHD – there is no point arguing! YJHD is far from a perfect film but far more refined tjan DDLJ!
Haha..Then people should eschew talking about soul , emotion and what not ..It is a decently made film. You can enjoy it. IMO it is marginally better than ilks of Break ke baad, Anjana Anjaani..nothing more.
Agree completely Munna….I certainly did not find this film to be better than DDLJ. YJHD was pretty puerile in my opinion, even ZNMD was far more tastefully executed and contained a few moments of genuine beauty.
Let CE release. Doodh ka doodh paani ka paani hojayega. Whether SRK still has it to give a fight. And Besharam will decide whether Ranbir is one trick pony or not. Everywhere the fans are confused and making confusing predictions.
Am not sure if one could call Ranbir a one trick pony even if Besharam doesnt hit the mark. This is neither his first film or his first success. A lot will depend on the kind of film Besharam is.
Agree to a degree that CE is a somehwat of a test for SRK as long as the yardstick is properly defined. If it makes a 100 crore, does it mean SRK is still the king? I dont think so!
If the first Dabangg is anything to go by I don’t think there will be any issues with Besharam succeeding. Not to mention (and as much as I liked Salman in that film) unlike in Dabangg, here the writer-director actually has a gifted actor to work with. This is, in any case, more of an acid test for Abhinav Kashyap (who in Chulbul Pandey really gave Hindi cinema its first readymade icon since Hirani’s Munnabhai) than it is for Ranbir.
Ranbir has done a variety of films though. He’s certainly not a one trick pony in this sense. In box office terms though every star has to become this to keep jacking up the initial. It is precisely a similar genre and or part that attracts the audience. Besharam is actually a great followup to YJHD assuming Kashyap delivers. The initial should be huge.
In fact, from DDLJ to Mohabbatein to RDBNJ to JBTHJ..he has only regressed as filmmaker. ( Though, to be fair, RDBNJ was a little better than the two films it is sandwiched between)
In Current business scenario it is very highly unlikely that big movies with big stars and big release size collect less than 70 Crore a week. Even with average content, movies are collecting this much at least.
In last 3 years only 3 big movies failed … TMK, Himmatwala and YPD-2 …. and these movies failed mainly because of hugely negative WOM. Otherwise even with mixed WOM big movies are highly unlikely to collect less than 100 .. and once 120+ we call it Blockbuster .. and just inches above 120, we call it ATBB .. no matter audience accept or reject it.
And with 150/- average ticket price .. 100 Crore is just 66 Lakhs audience … which is less than footfalls of flop movies five years back.
I would dare say less than just 15% of audience and inflated ticket prices has helped only …price of ticket matters as in interior of country a movie may sell more ticket but it is nuetralised by less ticket price and conveniently ignored in final gross
Tuesday 11th June 2013 12.30 IST
Boxofficeindia.Com Trade Network
Yamla Pagla Deewana 2 grossed around 3.50-3.75 crore nett on Monday as it held up well in Delhi/UP, East Punjab and Rajasthan while other circuits dropped more than 50% than Friday.
Although the all India drop is around 50% from Friday which is decent for a Monday, the problem is that Friday was not that strong. The film has grossed around 25 crore nett in four days and is likely to finish the week at around 31-32 crore nett.
The business of the film is likely to finish 25-30% less than Yamla Pagla Deewana which released in 2011.
Finally, the life and loves of legendary director Guru Dutt will be made into a film. It will be directed by Bhavna Talwar, who had won a National Award for her debut film,Dharam.
She has also secured exclusive rights to use the iconic songs in his films like Jaane Kya Tune Kahi and Yeh Duniya Agar Mil Bhi Jayen Toh Kya Hai (Pyaasa), and Waqt Ne Kiya Kya Haseen Situm and Dekhi Zamanein Ki Yaari (Kaagaz Ke Phool).
Apparently, Saregama/HMV — one of India’s oldest and well-stocked music companies — has given Talwar the exclusive rights to use the entire body of Guru Dutt’s music.
Says a source close to the project: “Saregama and Bhavna Talwar’s producer-husband Sheetal Talwar have signed a deal for the entire oeuvre of Guru Dutt’s music to be used in Bhavna’s film on Guru Dutt as and how required.”
Though Adarsh Gupta, Business Head of Saregama, confirms the deal, none of the two parties is willing to divulge the kind of monies that exchanged hands before this large treasure-chest of melodies passed into the Talwars’ hands. But here’s a hint: Tigmanshu Dhulia had to pay Rs 35 lakh for one Lata Mangeshkar classic Lag Ja Gale Se before it could be used in Sahib Biwi Aur Gangster Returns.
Shedding light on her ambitious Guru Dutt bio-pic, Talwar said, “It would look at the man and the filmmaker from one range of vision — mine. There will be lots of music but we will not over-use Guru Dutt’s vast repertoire of music just because we have access to it.”
As for Dutt’s family raising objections to the bio-pic, a source close to Talwar’s film says, “We’re very clear on the legal aspect of filming a real-life personality. We’ll only be using information on Guru Dutt that is in the public domain.”
“Tricky subject. Very tricky”–haha
but this will interesting to watch–and the woman remaking it seems a serious sensible film maker–so she wont maul the subject
yaiy–as usual i dont watch half the links i post–but saw this interview…since only 8 minutes
yaiy–ranbir said that YJHD sequel shoudl be in the works!!-as i had earlier said !!!
as i had suggested— a (W)WUS FRANCHISE
WONT wake up sid part 1 & part 2 (YJHD) already there
in the next one, ranbir ‘escapes’ from deepikas charms (and legs) and continues his shenanigans…part3, 4, 5…. –gets murkier and darker….
Circumstances and people CONSPIRE to wake him up but he ESCAPES 🙂
Wow–what a story idea–anyone reading this can make a brilliant franchise…hahaha
Random status updates from some of my Facebook friends: ( One t is a male and one female. When is it last that film created this level of empathy and engagement?)
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hmm… it does not happen that often that one of your loved ones goes to watch a movie and gives you a call right after leaving the theater because the character reminded them of you… My sister called me after watching Ranbir in YJHD, the only other time it has happened was with Shahid in Jab We met…”
“Sometimes for the silliest of movies I wish to see a sequel.. For instance, the case of a dreamy and yet so real and honest pairing of Bunny and Naina! So, we know that the two people who said “I love you” have decided that they are able enough the take responsibility of the three words… but then what? The curious me, wants to know what happens to their life after that 31st December night, when Bunny walks in with cake to tell her that ” Tu ne mera waat laga diya! Fasa liya! Ab main wahin sapne dekhta hoon par do ticket pe!”
How does their world unfurl now…what happens … ?
Do they travel the world together? Does Naina take extended weekends off from her doctors’ profession and join Bunny wherever he is?Does he take up his dream assignment travelling through Paris, Tokyo,Istanbul and Berlin? Does he settle down in Mumbai while Naina still runs her clinic?
So do they still take vacations in Manali and spot a deer in the wee hours of the morning light, celebrating a moment of their love?
Darn! I love my curious self!”
“We thank Jeetu sir and Balaji” – Shah Rukh Khan
By Bollywood Hungama News Network, Jun 13, 2013 – 11:26 hrs IST
Balaji Motion Pictures’ romantic drama Once Upon A Time In Mumbaai Dobara which was earlier slotted for an Eid release, along side Shah Rukh Khan’s Chennai Express will now release on Thursday, August 15, 2013 (Independence Day). It is learnt that Shah Rukh Khan spoke to Mr. Jeetendra and a meeting was held between Mr. Jeetendra, UTV and Shah Rukh Khan to resolve the situation of both the movies releasing together, and find a win-win situation for all.
“Keeping in mind that both weekends (8th Aug and 15th Aug) are good times for film releases, Jeetendra sir being the senior most showed the path. He took the decision to move Once Upon A Time In Mumbaai Dobara to August 15. This is extremely graceful of him. UTV, Rohit and I are very happy with the decision made and we thank Jeetu sir and Balaji for the same. This should pave the way for such mature and sensible amicable understandings whenever two films release on the same day in future too,” says Shah Rukh Khan.
“My father and Shah Rukh spoke and have clearly worked out what is best for both the films. Both are big and keenly awaited films and should not be made to eat into each other’s business. I have huge respect for SRK and wish him the best,” says Ekta Kapoor.
Chennai Express will now release on Aug 8 while Once Upon A Time in Mumbaai Dobara will release on Aug 15.
SATYAMSHOT 
June 6, 2013 at 11:02 PM
An Jo:
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June 7, 2013 at 8:02 AM
What is the need of this here in this thread? This should have been posted in a seperate thread..Anyway, Congrats in advance for Bachchan as he has been selected for a saas bahu type TV serial.
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June 7, 2013 at 10:45 AM
“Congrats in advance for Bachchan as he has been selected for a saas bahu type TV serial.”
Yeah, it’s unfortunate he couldn’t follow SRK’s cue and make a career out of doing these on the big screen.
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June 7, 2013 at 11:02 AM
LOL, line of the day!
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June 7, 2013 at 11:43 AM
Once in a while, it would make sense — and not really an astonishing effort — to first read/watch and then comment.
With AK at the helm, if one feels this would be a ‘saas-bahu’ serial, then it is not rocket science to figure out that the jibes are actually targeted at Anurag and not AB. AB has been well-known for his poor choices anyway for decades together..
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June 7, 2013 at 12:31 PM
An Jo, not everyone can aspire to the lofty Ray-like vision of Rohit Shetty…
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June 7, 2013 at 11:12 AM
Haven’t sat through all of this but they appear to be playing it close to the chest in terms of revealing any plot or even genre hints…
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June 7, 2013 at 11:21 AM
haven’t seen any of it.
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June 7, 2013 at 1:09 PM
GF: While you guys were discussing the state of Indian TV on the other I was reminded of your insightful note on Saudagar (the AB starrer. Satyam had once posted it). And i thought a tv series which might interest you is Nukkad- it’s possibly one of the best examples of how something set in a ‘small-town milieu’ ends up informing a much larger pop-cultural world. This serial belonged to DD’s golden age and was helmed by none other than Saeed Akhtar Mirza. Infact it is often regarded as the first landmark show on Indian TV.
The other one which you might enjoy is Benegal’s Bharat Ek Khoj (based on Discovery of India)
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June 7, 2013 at 1:54 PM
Magudi days is still a compelling watch in DVD and akshay Kumar copied most memorable sequence in khatta meetha
Tamas is memorable, buniyaad was compelling ….infact most of dd material of 80s and early 90s are goldmine
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June 7, 2013 at 2:02 PM
Btw this is anurag kashyap going back to his tv days of 90s
He had drited some strong short stories mostly crime and even written script
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June 7, 2013 at 2:19 PM
Thanks for the note Saurabh. Many of these I’ve heard of but haven’t had the chance to check out.
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June 7, 2013 at 2:25 PM
All are there in DVD and you tube..hum log , buniyaad ,surbhi,nukkad etc
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June 7, 2013 at 2:31 PM
Yeah I’ll have to do this at some point. The problem with television (here I mean in the US) is that there’s so much good stuff to watch it’s difficult to find the time.
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June 7, 2013 at 2:37 PM
Have to admit even I liked most of the us drama but British are better here even in this regard and these are easily acessible in India now
One name which has grown just big from tv it has to be cumberbatch from Sherlock who was villain in most recent star trek and ironically a global terrorist called khan
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June 7, 2013 at 2:45 PM
Cumberbatch is superb on the BBC’s Sherlock. In my opinion I haven’t seen anything from the UK that’s better than the best on American cable networks.
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June 8, 2013 at 4:44 AM
IMO, nothing on American cable can match the wit of classic British comedy shows, although the States does outdo the UK in other genres.
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June 8, 2013 at 11:44 AM
I don’t even think you buy that comment, Ami! Or maybe you’re just not watching the right stuff. But fair enough, I’m of course not really all that well-versed in the UK classic sitcoms. And these things are subjective, just think it’s going a bit too far to suggest, particularly in the last ten to twenty years when there’s really been a renaissance in American TV, that one can’t find anything to match the classics in British comedy.
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June 8, 2013 at 1:36 PM
british TV had some great stuff from the late 60s through the mid-80s. Since then things haven’t been the same. Since the 90s there’s been a renaissance of sorts but barring exceptions it’s still not the same as the earlier period by any stretch. Plus the period stuff even gets to be a bit much after a while even accounting for some good productions. I personally don’t think there’s any comparison with the best of American TV over the last 15 years or so. On that note British crime dramas and so forth are quite often inspired by stuff in the US these days. the very best of American TV (and I have been a latecomer to all of this myself) reaches an art form (as many have pointed out). It would be hard for anything anywhere to match this contemporary American output.
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June 8, 2013 at 5:16 AM
“IMO, nothing on American cable can match the wit of classic British comedy shows”—hey Amy –totally agree there…
Though lately I’m enjoying ‘new anger management’ a lot haha–have u seen it…
Btw Amy –couple of days back, I checked MUD
what are your views on mud & the great gatsby ….
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June 7, 2013 at 2:41 PM
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June 6, 2013 at 11:18 PM
http://www.indiatvnews.com/entertainment/bollywood/movie-review-yamla-pagla-deewana-2-8065.html
Glad to read this:
By performance if we look at Dharmendra, he is the one who seems to be fully enjoying his role like a little kid. No matter how much older he gets year by year, he is and will forever be young at heart.
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June 7, 2013 at 3:48 AM
Saw Yeh Jawaani Hai Deewani yesterday. A typical KJo produced film IMO upgraded by a fresh lead pair who perform well enough. My usual issues apply. Too long. First half good (as it is typical Kjo formula, fun, entertaining). Second half drag. (long, melodramatic, poor editing…should have ended 30mins earlier, too many songs). Overall 3/5.
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June 7, 2013 at 1:09 PM
there is no doubt this completely unexpected and massive gross gives Ranbir a quantum box office leap. In addition to the other success he was having recently he could not really be in a better place than he is at the moment. This kind of box office success can elevate initials in general but anything loosely belonging to the genre will be hugely helped. And of course he has besharam coming up.
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June 7, 2013 at 6:05 AM
My argument for Indian tv from the last thread which was closed.
Indian tv empowered women artistes and they are the movers and shakers in all the soaps while their men play a supporting role. Except perhaps a Mahadev or BALH.
And the ladies are impeccably dressed, styled and it is a pleasure to watch their sarees, their jewels etc. Even in the hot kitchen where they spend most of the time, they are in their heavy ghunghats, best sarees! they also sleep in them with ghunghats and full makeup! And the heroines are superwomen. They try to please everybody, make tremendous sacrifices. They arely laugh but cry always so that trps increase. the glycerine sales must be skyrocketing due to Indian soaps. And the freeze shots.
They have to show these freeze shots from the saas to the dog so that the serial run forever. And there are always lookalikes, plastic surgeries etc. to add pep.
Just now the bahu of the top ranking serial found a broken bangle piece and is out to do a cid.
They always prepare ghee soaked parathas and halwas with relentless zeal. Wnenever they try to show togetherness, the wife always stitches the button while the husband still wears that shirt.
And the doors are never closed so that the others can evesdrop easily.
after watching these soaps, they become part of me just like my virtual family. I wait what that lady vamp do next like setting fire to the good one or emptying entire salt packet in the dal prepared by the good one. Will the mother in law sport that unhappy sulk forever?
And Arnab, the crusader is trying to give stiff competition to these soap ladies!
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June 7, 2013 at 8:47 PM
There were other good soaps. Shanti of DD, Jassi Jaisi koi nahin, Saaya, Fauji for SRK sake, Astitva Ek Prem Kahani, Sailab, Wagle ki duniya, Campus, Chunauti etc.And also Saans by Neena Gupta.
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June 7, 2013 at 6:42 AM
Top 5: ‘Yeh Jawaani Hai Deewani’ crosses a ton, creates history!
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June 7, 2013 at 6:43 AM
B.O. update: ‘Yamla Pagla Deewana 2’ opens well in North India
By Taran Adarsh, June 7, 2013 – 14:22 IST
As expected, YAMLA PAGLA DEEWANA-2 had a robust start in North India, which is considered a stronghold of the Deols. In other circuits, the opening response range from average to dull. However, the film faces a strong opponent in YEH JAWAANI HAI DEEWANI, which refuses to slow down at the ticket window. It would be interesting to see how strong YAMLA PAGLA DEEWANA-2 eventually is over the weekend.
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June 7, 2013 at 6:44 AM
Yamla Pagla Deewana 2 Opens Well
Friday 7th June 2013 11.30 IST
Boxofficeindia.Com Trade Network
Yamla Pagla Deewana 2 had good opening of around 60 on average. The opening in Delhi/UP was very good and East Punjab was excellent with 80% plus collections. West Bengal and Mysore opened to low collections of 30-35%.
However the film has not a great release with less screenings than the film would normally have due to the super success of Yeh Jawaani Hai Deewani. Even the single screen release is not great due to Yeh Jawaani Hai Deewani being booked for two weeks at many places.
The film is likely to do better in North and Central India markets where the opening is best but with Yeh Jawaani Hai Deewani emerging a blockbuster it is not really a solo release for Yamla Pagla Deewana 2 so the reports become even more important as the weekend business will not be as strong as it would have been without the compeition.
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June 7, 2013 at 6:56 AM
Expected
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June 7, 2013 at 7:57 AM
I was expecting YPD2 will put a dent in the collections of YJHD but case seems to be reverse here.
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June 7, 2013 at 3:26 PM
OT,
The Huffington Post’s Brutal Front Page: ‘GEORGE W. OBAMA’
http://www.businessinsider.com/huffington-post-george-w-obama-front-page-2013-6
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June 7, 2013 at 4:20 PM
yeah saw this!
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June 7, 2013 at 4:38 PM
LOS ANGELES — “If history is any indication,” a Forbes report read on May 3, “ ‘The Great Gatsby’ will bomb rather hard.” BoxOffice.com at one point projected very soft opening-weekend sales of about $24 million. Early on, several studios were so worried about the movie’s multiplex prospects that they passed on making it.
Oops.
“The Great Gatsby,” directed by Baz Luhrmann, has become the latest example of the Hollywood machinery getting audience interest wrong. “Gatsby,” adapted from F. Scott Fitzgerald’s classic novel and starring Leonardo DiCaprio in the title role, is now expected to take in at least $330 million worldwide.
With that kind of box-office success, the movie should be able to generate $200 million or so more from ancillary sources like DVD sales and reruns on cable channels, studio executives said.
Profitability is another matter, affected by unknown factors, including how compensation for Mr. DiCaprio and Mr. Luhrmann was structured. The movie was also expensive to make; executives who worked on “The Great Gatsby” contend it cost about $105 million after heftier-than-normal rebates from filming in Australia. Global marketing costs, after factoring in partnerships, ran $90 million. (Some insiders say those costs were substantially higher.)
Is it surprising that “The Great Gatsby” has succeeded? Apparently not to a lot of movie fans. Who would bet against Mr. DiCaprio in a flashy retelling of one of literature’s best-known stories?
A lot of people did. Village Roadshow, a film financier and production company, showed interest early on, agreeing to collaborate with Sony. But Sony, which had a flop with “How Do You Know” around the time “The Great Gatsby” was getting under way, decided it was too risky.
Members of Mr. Luhrmann’s management team said he then approached other studios but got one no after another: too expensive; mainstream audiences would not be interested; his last movie, “Australia,” was a disappointment.
Warner, with Village Roadshow, finally said yes, but only after Warner’s president of production, Greg Silverman, became an avid supporter of the project.
So, with the money now rolling in, is Mr. Luhrmann’s camp saying “told you so”? In true Hollywood fashion, it is gloating in private while trying — successfully, apparently — to get the word of its vindication out there.
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June 7, 2013 at 6:59 PM
Ypd is carrying very bad to very very bad reviews….
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June 7, 2013 at 7:27 PM
yeah looks like a flop.
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June 7, 2013 at 9:40 PM
I stilll think YPD might manage to cross the 60-70 CR mark.
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June 7, 2013 at 11:52 PM
that wud be a miracle – but yeah can’t say anything until UP belt and Punjab nos. are out after a week
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June 8, 2013 at 9:30 AM
Per his interview with Chopra, he needs only 30-32 cr to break even (half of the cost is marketing the movie!!!)
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June 9, 2013 at 3:45 AM
Delhi, UP, Punjab alone can see it to 50-60 cr..lets see
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June 7, 2013 at 10:09 PM
“As an aside, Ranbir Kapoor’s 100-crore films (YJHD, Barfi) seem more impressive than those of the others because these are not really “mass” films.’ Baradwaj Rangan
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June 7, 2013 at 10:19 PM
Barfi’s success was a surprise while YJHD,s is not unexpected with its blockbuster songs and dances. The latter is having repeat audience. they dont care for the intricacies and they want good entertainment.
And deols chose a wrong time to release their flick. Fools rush in where angels fear to tread!
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June 7, 2013 at 11:26 PM
I don’t agree with this. All else being equal the mass film has an edge. In other words if a film can perform very well across the board it will obviously beat another one that does well in certain segments. However as a practical matter the mass films that do cross this mark tend to be largely ‘initial’ affairs. They generate a certain hype and then collapse. The reason this is important is that the mass film is less likely to sustain in multiplexes for a longer period of time. This is incidentally true even for some of the better masala films. Because the two most important multiplex demographics, the youth audience and the family one are both not at this point in time the core groups for masala. They show up for the big releases nonetheless and are not really satisfied with what they see. So it’s somewhat rare to have a masala film maintain that initial momentum for longer than 5-7 days. On the other hand a multiplex film that is liked reasonably can quite easily do this because the vast bulk of the gross still comes from multiplexes. Even masala films wouldn’t get to 100 or whatever that easily without reasonable multiplex participation in the initial rounds. If anything the mass film is at a certain disadvantage because if tickets sold are the same or even more (as is true in many cases) these are likely to come from centers that cannot generate the gross in the same way. And so the multiplex success often seems exaggerated. ZNMD did 90 or so, Singham did close to a 100 or something but in terms of tickets sold the difference is much more. So there are many factors here. One isn’t really comparing like for like the way the Bollywood markets work. On the other hand if Rangan had made such a statement about Tamil cinema I’d completely agree because there masala successes are not under-performers.
The 3I gross is achieved because of repeat multiplex audience more than anything else. And the Salman films can never catch up because after the initial rounds there is no multiplex participation. Which is why I said the other day that the YJHD gross indicates the extent to which masala ventures underperform. If the latter were playing to their market potential a film like YJHD despite being so successful would be way behind the comparable masala grosser. But the masala films are by and large poor products. And unlike say in TN where multiplexes are limited from jacking up prices as much there is just too great a disparity in the Hindi markets. Now it’s a different matter than most of the multiplex films are also junk and don’t have much staying power but the ones that go can get to a 100 with far less audience participation (though more multiplex participation) than masala.
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June 7, 2013 at 11:55 PM
that is well put satyam – sanju’s argument also has a point but the producers shd have known that they have a weaker product on hand and YJHD is going really strong but i guess these things (release) are planned well in advance….YPD’s loss will be YJHD’s gain ..
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June 7, 2013 at 11:57 PM
Okay lets agree with you on this point but how shameful it would be if he’ll return to it and that too on small screen?But one thing is sure that he never will as he has earned enough and he can enjoy rest of his life without doing any work.
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June 8, 2013 at 12:33 AM
There is nothing more shameful than srk doing kya paanchvii se tez hai and that other disaster on tv
it needs brain to think why aamir is doing satyamev jayate and ab and kashyap this
for record a chu..ya can change any id but he will always sound like one only…
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June 8, 2013 at 7:48 AM
Shame for deleting comments here.
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June 8, 2013 at 7:57 AM
and if you don’t stop creating trouble there will be more action. You’re just coming here to provoke people.
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June 7, 2013 at 11:58 PM
Sanjana: “Barfi’s success was a surprise while YJHD,s is not unexpected with its blockbuster songs and dances. The latter is having repeat audience. they dont care for the intricacies and they want good entertainment.”
Wrong on all counts. The scale of success of YJHD was totally unexpected. Even after the first three days everyone as calling it a ‘ multiplex’ film. Show me one post that had predicted a 100cr opening week. Most people had thought it m may at best touch 100cr. . After all a film like Jab Tak Hai Jaan with Shahrukh, Katrina, Anushka, Yash Chopra, ARR… and Diwali release does 120 cr. If hit songs and dances could make a film a blockbuster Anjana Anjani had them too.
And people do care for intricacies. That is why when everyone agrees that the film has no ‘ story’ and the second half is ‘slow’ and ‘heavy’, they are still hooked. It is the ‘intricacies’ that is making the connection. Of course it is entertaining. But it is the soul of the film that is touching people, just as it was with 3 Idiots.
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June 8, 2013 at 12:25 AM
If soul matters to audience, ashiquit 2 should have done better than this flick.
Audience dont care for intricacies. Recent Salman Khan’s success is proof of this. They are purely entertainers.
JTHJ was a ridiculous film and its success is really inexplicable. I could not sit for for half an hour. In comparison Ek Tha tiger was far more entertaining and highly watchable.
Maybe so many things must have contributed to this flick’s success. KJO’s marketing, cast of the film, songs and dances, a combination of DCH, ZNMD, 3 Idiots cleverly put together. And Ranbir.
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June 8, 2013 at 3:31 PM
Re. Soul in yjhd..
Here we go again. .
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June 8, 2013 at 12:46 AM
“If soul matters to audience, ashiquit 2 should have done better than this flick.”
The fact that Ashiqui 2 has done close to 80 cr proves that the soul of the film touches the audience. Otherwise how much did the industry give a non star cast romance to make? 3o cr at best!
This film has soul …and entertainment with song and dance….and Ranbir and Deepika. I mean that is why it has done so much more than Wake Up Sid which too had soul and subtleties. Which can take a film only this far. Then you have a few more ingredients lie stars, gloss and song and dance…it goes to the next level. 3 Idiots needed that one Zoobie Doobie song to make it look like a regular film, without which many regular Bollywood film goers feel cheated. That is why ZNMD needed a Senorita song. But make no mistake, a film needs soul, which a film like Dabangg too had. JTHJ did not have it, that’s why it so underperformed. The same with Talaash. If these films had really connected they could have done 200 cr and 120 cr respectively.
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June 8, 2013 at 2:16 AM
The targetted audience appreciated Talaash, otherwise it would not have touched 93 crores and overseas it performed more than expected. The others expected something like 3 Idiots and so were disappointed. Many loved Talaash more than 3 Idiots. That includes me.
YJHD had KJO gloss, starpower, a youth oriented subject apart from foot tapping music. Ranbir’s dances have that spontaneity which hrithik’s perfect moves lack. An abandon type of moves.These 2 are interesting study material. Ranbir seems more like the next door youngster while hrithik seems to be that reserved rich guy. Mass and Class? I happened to watch the movie in parts.
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June 8, 2013 at 2:28 AM
And the only soul that today’s youth knows is love, hearbreaks, love with good music(?). I feel like laughing when words like soul is attached to certain types of movies.
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June 10, 2013 at 1:51 PM
“That is why ZNMD needed a Senorita song. But make no mistake, a film needs soul, which a film like Dabangg too had. JTHJ did not have it, that’s why it so underperformed. The same with Talaash.”
For a movie that was entirely based on the concept of a bhatakti aatma/soul, not having a soul in itself is quite an extraordinarily paradoxical achievement as per Utkal!!
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June 8, 2013 at 2:54 AM
Talaash had many good things and many people liked it. But it faltered somewhere. Kahaani in the same genre without songs, without stars did 60 cr. This one with Aamir, Rani, Kareena and songs by Ram Sampat should have done 120cr. Aashiqui 2 without stars will do 80 crores. Jab Tak Hai Jaan, with SRK, Katrina and Anushak should have done 160cr. Simple. 120cr for JBHJ is good. 94 cr for Talaash is good. But if the films had made genuine connection with the audience they could have done what I have estimated. Roughly.
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June 8, 2013 at 3:33 AM
Expectations from Aamir will be more than from Vidya! A Vidya underperformer will not affect her that much while Aamir underperformer will be talked about more.
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June 8, 2013 at 3:44 AM
I did not like Kahani or EV that much. I prefer to watch where a male has also an equally good part to play. Feminists, please dont bash me! Somehow these films look incomplete for me. Ditto for Mother India and Bandini. The only female centric film which I enjoyed was Gupt!
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June 8, 2013 at 4:16 AM
For me, personally, the best film of this decade or the last is GOW 1 & 2….
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June 8, 2013 at 1:53 PM
Nothing can outdone “Khakee” which IMHO is best movies of last 2 decades at least …
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June 9, 2013 at 1:07 AM
TRUE…KHAKEE is remarkable…..and GOW 1 & 2 together rank as a close 2nd..
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June 8, 2013 at 4:26 AM
How many Hindi flms have equally balanced roles for the male and female?
90% of Bollywood films have extremely unimportant, poorly thought out roles for the women; Kahaani might have been female centric but the entire supporting cast was male and from the insurance salesman to the policeman, they all had powerfully written and memorable characters, which is FAR more than what the vast majority of mainstream Bollywood films offer women characters.
No offence, but how do you then enjoy the Indian soaps which are also female centric?
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June 8, 2013 at 4:34 AM
If you had only read what I wrote about Indian soap ladies above, you will notice I was sarcastic.
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June 8, 2013 at 4:40 AM
LOL! I just read it, I hadn’t realised that you were being sarcastic about liking the saas-bahu soaps, sorry. 😛
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June 8, 2013 at 9:41 AM
Agree with all your points as well Ami. Nice to have you around..do keep popping in. Without you here, there is no testosterone control 😉
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June 8, 2013 at 9:39 AM
The male in the kahani (for me) was total, complete eye candy…have watched Parambrata’s other bangla movies as well. 🙂
Even though VB was the ‘hero’ of the movie, the hero also was not weak…enjoyed his role thoroughly in the movie.
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June 8, 2013 at 5:26 AM
Haha sanju & Amy— seems u both are watching lots of ‘saas basu’ serials —action packed
“And the only soul that today’s youth knows is love, hearbreaks, love with good music(?). I feel like laughing when words like soul is attached to certain types of movies”—
Wow sanju–what ‘depth’ in that comment eh lol
Btw while u give me my coffee –will be interesting to know, your idea of ‘soul’ 😉
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June 8, 2013 at 6:27 AM
Oh man–the ‘tension’ is palpable btw Amy & sanju–cheer up gals–u both are gr8…
We will let Amy shop n splurge the Yjhd box office moolah–she deserves it …
Sanju- thanx for the coffee–im literally about to hit the road
And film this song—
Loved it’s picturisation actually –well done ranbir and ayan
Check this out gals–
Mera falsafaa kandhe pe mera basta
Chala main jahaan le chala mujhe rasta
Boondon pe nahin
Boondon ke samandar pe woh oo woh…
Cya shortly 🙂
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June 8, 2013 at 7:28 AM
Yeh Jawaani Hai Deewani Set For Huge Second Weekend
Saturday 8th June 2013 11.30 IST
Boxofficeindia.Com Trade Network
Yeh Jawaani Hai Deewani is set for a huge second weekend total which should go in excess of 25 crore nett. The 8th day total is around 6.50-6.75 crore nett which takes the eight day business of the film to around 113 crore nett.
The second weekend will be the second highest ever behind Three Idiots which grossed 33 crore nett approx. The next highest is Dabangg at 24 crore nett and Yeh Jawaani Hai Deewani will surpass that.
The film is sure to be the third highest grossing film of all time with an outside chance of being second highest ever. The two week business of the film will be around 150 crore or very close to that mark.
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June 8, 2013 at 7:47 AM
taran adarsh @taran_adarsh 5h
#YehJawaaniHaiDeewani [2nd Week] Fri 7 cr. Total: 114.61 cr.
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June 8, 2013 at 11:02 AM
Undoubtedly, Ranbir has arrived, and arrived BIG. I was surprised with Barfi BO, never expected it to cross 100crs. But that was just an indication of how massive RK’s fan following has become. YJHD is confirmation of his starpower. A year or so earlier, it just did not seem like the young guns had it in them to challenge the Big3. Finally, an under-30 hero seems to be signalling the end of the Khan/Kumar era. We will not be subject to 45+ male buddhas cavorting with under-25 nubile beauties anymore. Whew!
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June 8, 2013 at 11:29 AM
45+ Buddhas! Buddha hoga tera baap!
I could not resist.
Then Madhuri, Sri can be safely called buddhis while the rekhas, Hemas are beyond that!
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June 8, 2013 at 7:29 AM
Yamla Pagla Deewana 2 First Day Business
Friday 7th June 2013 12.30 IST
Boxofficeindia.Com Trade Network
Yamla Pagla Deewana 2 grossed around 7-7.50 crore nett on day one as the film did well in parts of India but not so good in other parts. The collections are best in Delhi/UP, East Punjab, Rajasthan and CI but collections in Delhi/UP and East Punjab are slightly lower than Yamla Pagla Deewana while Rajasthan and CI are similar to part one.
The film has been hugely affected by the super success of Yeh Jawaani Hai Deewani which has meant that Yamla Pagla Deewana 2 is not really a solo release and probably cost the film at least 2 crore in terms of opening day collections.
Yamla Pagla Deewana 2 will need good growth over the weekend to come out with a decent weekend total. Yamla Pagla Deewana grossed around 23 crore nett in its first weekend and it is looking same range for Yamla Pagla Deewana 2.
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June 8, 2013 at 7:32 AM
It is really a wonder that it is not washed out completely as many expected.
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June 8, 2013 at 9:39 AM
Then it is premature to label as flop.
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June 8, 2013 at 7:29 AM
Aashiqui 2 Touches 78 Crore Nett In Six Weeks
Saturday 8th June 2013 11.30 IST
Boxofficeindia.Com Trade Network
Aashiqui 2 has now nearly touched 78 crore nett in six weeks. The film’s super steady run was halted by the release of Yeh Jawaani Hai Deewani but it will finish at around 79 crore nett which is outstanding for such a film. The first six week collections of Aashiqui 2 are as follows.
Week One – 34.65 crore
Week Two – 17.35 crore
Week Three – 11.48 crore
Week Four – 7.39 crore
Week Five – 5.80 crore
Week Six – 1.20 crore
TOTAL – 77.87 crore
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June 8, 2013 at 7:46 AM
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June 8, 2013 at 2:12 PM
Ranbir Kapoor is doing exceptionally great .. But I still believe he is not even half as charismatic as Khans (Salman mainly) and khans again are not even 5% as charismatic as Amitabh.
Ranbir is following Aamir model post 2000 in choosing movies and of course he possess very good acting capabilities and looks. This mix of modus operandi and talent working In his favor exactly same way as Aamir khan post Lagaan. Only difference is what Aamit achieved quite very late in his career, Ranbir got it quite very early (At age less than Debut age of Amitabh).
I heard today that Aditya Roy Kapoor is signed for Yash Raj films next movie paring with Pareenita Chopra … having a gut feel that Aditya roy fan base immensely increased after Aashiqui-2. Looks like we are ignoring contribution of his fanbase in smashing success of YJHD. Otherwise who would have think this movie going past 100 Crore in one week ?? (Except Amod Mehra or Jaju).
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June 8, 2013 at 2:52 PM
But that fanbase is limited to genre and stritctly its still one dimensional in case of both
Always used to wonder how aditya kapoor used to get all plum role…was akshay and aishearya child in time machine and shared important role with both Salman and what so its nothing new its just now a big ruar
As for ranbir he is still to choclaty and has done harmless role nothing game changer as such
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June 8, 2013 at 5:16 PM
yeah Habib Faisal is directing that film.
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June 9, 2013 at 5:50 AM
Habib Faisel or Habib Fazal?
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June 9, 2013 at 7:51 AM
I believe it’s the former.
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June 9, 2013 at 5:47 AM
Yakuza please don’t start comparisions here as it always result in fan wars.Why to bring Amitabh Bachchan here?
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June 10, 2013 at 9:55 AM
I think it is childish to bring Mr.Bachchan here into discussion without any reason.Every one knows he is beyond nay comparision.
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June 8, 2013 at 2:25 PM
“I don’t have a personality like Salman Khan or Shah Rukh Khan that I can be myself and the film will be a huge hit. I have to be a character,” he added.
Since starting his career in Bollywood, Ranbir has appeared only in ten full-fledged films. The actor says he is not multi-talented to do more than one project at a time.
http://www.hindustantimes.com/Entertainment/Bollywood/Don-t-like-being-tagged-as-the-next-superstar-Ranbir-Kapoor/Article1-1073021.aspx
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June 8, 2013 at 2:41 PM
And these are your new talents
Aditya kapoor whose brother heads utv(both ashqui2 and yjhd) are utv production and has vidya balan as babhi and ranbir who again got everthing on platter and that includes big production houses and bannners
ranbir hasn’t done much risky role with shades either and most of these are crowd pleasing movie….let them have some concrete body of work first
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June 8, 2013 at 5:46 PM
Second Day Box Office Collection of Yamla Pagla Deewana 2 :
Day to Day Collection
Earnings
First/1st Day Box Office Collection
Rs.8 Crore Approx.
Second/2nd Day Box Office Collection
Rs.9 Crore Approx.
http://www.dailygrasp.in/2013/06/08/second-day-box-office-collection-of-yamla-pagla-deewana-2/
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June 9, 2013 at 1:04 AM
Collections go up on Day 2….interested to see if this holds on.
If Sunday is 7 Cr, then we are at approx 25 CR weekend which isn’t that bad.
I still think it might surprise people….
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June 8, 2013 at 8:58 PM
How many theories! How many explanations! Success is success and it needs no explanations. Ranbir’s success made one thing certain. That Salman is not the only god ruling the boxoffice. And Ranbir is different from Aamir in more ways than one. I dont know how 2 persons whose appraoch to films are so different can be compared! The way they choose directors and scripts! Is heady success the only criterion to judge whether an actor is worth or not? Was not ranbir good in rajneeti or barfi? What is this percentage nonsense? Instead of enjoying the success of stars, the fans of each star has become so insecure that they start blabbering. Why should any star’s success make others so insecure? The same thing is happening in cricket. If we can worship so many gods, why dont we apply the same to these things as well? Is this mother in law syndrome? As soon as daughter in law enters, the mother in law becomes so insecure! The son will no longer think the mother is the best!
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June 8, 2013 at 11:16 PM
terms like greatest star actor and most talented one without complete body of work is ridiculous anyway and resort to blabbering of highest order and there is nothing called % nonsense but genre limitation which is evident from body of work to run things commercially
He is harmless but never will be game changer with such roles
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June 8, 2013 at 11:30 PM
Thing is when big stats have not been spared of criticism including salman of his choices then is there any golden rule justifying not to touch current flavour of the month
For record none of his movie have any shelf life except rajniti where he to was not the best thing around
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June 9, 2013 at 12:49 AM
When Salman Khan was and is giving blockbusters, everyone started to find new virtues in him and trashed the other stars for not having those virtues. When Ranbir has given this latest blockbuster, the same thing is happening. Finding virtues, trashing the others for not having these virtues and taking digs at Salman’s supposed invincibility. This is showbiz and of course weak souls like Jiah Khan cant take it anymore. When one socialite journalist tried to shed crocodile tears over Jiah’s suicide, almost everyone of her readers blamed her for her scathing and critical remarks on failed stars and starlets.
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June 9, 2013 at 1:41 AM
Media is like whore anyways
Salman was the most ridiculed and least commercial star of last decade intact when he only went to tv and did did dus ka dum and later jitendra model of south Indian remake is back in buzz
For record allmost all ranbir movies are with big production houses or with big directors..
He is yet to venture out and even this is first for any newcomer
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June 9, 2013 at 3:06 AM
Manna dey is Dead
RIP !!!
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June 9, 2013 at 3:09 AM
Sorry seems unconfirmed news yet 😦
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June 9, 2013 at 3:26 AM
there are some who are critically ill as of now. Priyanka Chopra’s father, Nelson Mandela and Manna Dey.
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June 9, 2013 at 7:48 AM
yes he’s supposed to be in critical condition. Haven’t heard anything else.
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June 9, 2013 at 4:22 AM
rockstar: For record none of his movie have any shelf life except rajniti where he to was not the best thing around” Totally wrong. Rajneeti has no shelf life. And Ranbir was certainly what made the difference and made it stand out from other Prakash Jha films.
On the other hand, it is YJHD, Barfi, Rockstar and Wake Up Sid..are the films with a long shelf life and can be revisited for glimpses of brilliance and artistic achievement.
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June 9, 2013 at 4:51 AM
This kid is the most happening one at the present. But I will still wait for couple of more movies. Every major star has atleast a decade and a half to prove what he or she is.
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June 9, 2013 at 5:04 AM
How can U see shelf life of yjhd which has just released…prakash jha and devgan won national award before first do remember the only dialogue karara jawab denge from vajpayee
Barfi was hyped to hilt and was sent to Oscar in place of deserving candidate…what reps are this movie generating when they are coming to satelite…are they even talked about lol
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June 9, 2013 at 5:10 AM
Rockstar was India used adaptation of jommy Morrison life ala doors and that rockstar phenomenon with easy music was repeated in ashqui2 with tearjerkers….such fantacy are easilly appealable to teens
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June 9, 2013 at 7:52 AM
Yeh Jawani Hai Deewani Has Fantastic Second Saturday
Saturday 9th June 2013 14.30 IST
Boxofficeindia.Com Trade Network
Yeh Jawaani Hai Deewani had a fantastic second Saturday with business around the 9.50 crore nett mark taking its two day second weekend to a huge 16.25 crore nett with Sunday to come.
The film total so far for the film is around 123 crore nett which already makes it the seventh highest grossing film ever. The film is rocking North India where it will cross the business of even Three Idiots and be second only to Ek Tha Tiger.
The second Friday and Saturday of Yeh Jawaani Hai Deewani is as follows
Friday – 6.75 crore approx
Saturday – 9.50 crore approx.
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June 9, 2013 at 7:53 AM
taran adarsh @taran_adarsh 2h
#YehJawaaniHaiDeewani [2nd Week] Fri 7 cr, Sat 10.25. Total: 124.86 cr. All set for second highest *second weekend* after #3Idiots [33 cr].
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June 9, 2013 at 7:52 AM
Yamla Pagla Deewana 2 Day Two Business
Saturday 9th June 2013 14.30 IST
Boxofficeindia.Com Trade Network
Yamla Pagla Deewana 2 failed to grow on Saturday as collections dropped around 10%. The collections on Saturday were 6.25-6.50 crore nett with collections down in most circuits.
The film has collected around 13.50 crore nett in two days and will probably collect 21-22 crore nett over its first weekend which is lower than Yamla Pagla Deewana. The first two day business of Yamla Pagla Deewana is as follows
Friday – 7 crore approx
Saturday – 6.25-6.50 crore approx
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June 9, 2013 at 8:09 AM
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June 9, 2013 at 9:23 AM
Hey Satyam–hav u seen fast n furious 6?? Any good…. Kwik
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June 9, 2013 at 9:43 AM
No. Will wait for the DVD. Not the sort of thing I go to the theater for!
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June 9, 2013 at 1:21 PM
Any review of Aurangzeb coming anytime soon from you(Rockysaab said you watched it in theater)?
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June 9, 2013 at 9:28 AM
& after earth/ hangover 3!!! Not much choice eh…
Take up pick
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June 9, 2013 at 9:34 AM
Last of the axn heros—–escape
http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Stallone-Schwarzenegger-Locked-Up-Escape-Plan-Poster-37952.html
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June 9, 2013 at 10:00 AM
Unsure…Seems a fan-made one?
As for ypd2— the only interesting thing from the promos are the two dumb/cute heroines and the guy in the ape/monkey/bear costume –reechhaa anyone 🙂
May hav to endure ‘after earth’ 2day—sometimes one has to bear it…& grit the teeth.(4 the company!!!)
Ps– hiya arsh–aren’t u in vancouver downtown ?
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June 10, 2013 at 3:23 AM
A friend of mine pointed this it may be first when 3 real brothers are involved in movie
Aditya kapoor red hot in multiplexes after ashqui 2…….kunal Roy kapoor for playing kalkis hubby after nautanki saala and siddhharth Roy the head of utv
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June 10, 2013 at 9:43 AM
I think Kishore Kumar, Ashok Kumar and Anup Kumar acted in Chalti ka naam gaadi.
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June 9, 2013 at 3:52 PM
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/top-lists/Top-10-classics-by-Manna-Dey/videols/20505753.cms
Let us celebrate Manna Dey and wish him well.
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June 9, 2013 at 3:55 PM
Accolades and awards
Dey has been honored with the titles Padma Shri and Padma Bhushan.
The following is the list of Manna Dey’s other awards:
1969 National Film Award for Best Male Playback Singer for the Hindi Film Mere Huzur
1971 National Film Award for Best Male Playback Singer for the Bengali film Nishi Padma and Hindi film Mera Naam Joker [7][8]
1971 Padma Shri Award by Government of India
1972 Filmfare Award for Best Male Playback Singer for Mera Naam Joker
1985 Lata Mangeshkar Award awarded by Government of Madhya Pradesh
1988 Michale Sahittyo Puraskar awarded by Renaissance Sanskritik Parishad, Dhaka
1990 Shyamal Mitra Award by Mithun Fans Association
1991 Sangeet Swarnachurr Award awarded by Shree Khetra Kala Prakashika, Puri
1993 P.C.Chandra Award by P.C.Chandra Group & others
1999 Kamala Devi Roy Award by Kamala Devi Group
2001 Anandalok Lifetime Award by the Anandabazar Group
2002 Special Jury Swaralaya Yesudas Award for outstanding performance in music
2003 Alauddin Khan Award by the Government of West Bengal
2004 National Award as Playback singer by Government of Kerala
2004 Hony D. Lit Award by the Rabindra Bharati University
2005 Lifetime Achievement award by the Government of Maharashtra
2005 Padma Bhushan Award by the Government of India
2007 First AKSHAYA Award by Government of Orissa
2007 Awarded the Dada Saheb Phalke Award by the Government of India
2008 Hony D. Lit Award by Jadavpur University
2011 Filmfare Lifetime Achievement Award
2011 Banga-Vibhushan by Government of West Bengal
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June 10, 2013 at 12:46 AM
Xhobdo..
Ranbir Kapoor in Anurag
Basu’s Jagga Jasoos ~ http://m.indianexpress.com/news/ranbir-kapoor-in-anurag-basus-jagga-jasoos/1126945/
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June 10, 2013 at 4:11 AM
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/bollywood/news-interviews/Priyanka-Chopras-father-Dr-Ashok-Chopra-passes-away/articleshow/205
Actress Priyanka Chopra’s father Dr. Ashok Chopra breathed his last today at the Kokilaben Ambani hospital in Mumbai. He was suffering from cancer since 2008 and had undergone several medical surgeries. The Chopra clan including the actress, her mother and younger brother were with him at the time of death.
Just yesterday we reported how Priyanka has put aside work assignments and has been spending all her time praying for her father’s recovery. On Friday, Priyanka had organised a Mahamrityunjay puja at her home, for her daddy’s recovery.
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June 10, 2013 at 9:16 AM
Though Ranbir or his father are not the kinds of people who would have stuff ‘written’ for them Bollywoodhungama has become a total advertising machine for Ranbir over the past week or more. This Joginder piece is just one example:
http://www.bollywoodhungama.com/movies/features/type/view/id/5106
Notice how the Bachchan ghost shows up even here!
Having said that I do agree with the central point that Besharam following on the heels of YJHD is best suited in terms of genre to take maximum advantage of the latter’s huge success. The initial should be fantastic. And if Kashyap can create just as much watchability as Dabanng here Ranbir could have two monsters in a row.
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June 10, 2013 at 9:17 AM
June 9, 2013, 1:31 pm 8 Comments
‘The Purge’ Leads at the Box Office
By BROOKS BARNES
It was another grim box office weekend for mainstream movie stars, as a micro-budgeted horror film, “The Purge,” crushed Owen Wilson and Vince Vaughn in “The Internship.” A mere $3 million to make, “The Purge” (Universal Pictures) surprisingly dominated North American theaters, taking in an estimated $36.4 million, according to Hollywood.com, which compiles box office data.
“Fast & Furious 6” (Universal) was second, taking in about $19.8 million, for a three-week total of $202.9 million. The holdover “Now You See Me” (Lionsgate) finished third, with estimated ticket sales of $19.5 million, for a two-week total of $61.4 million. “The Internship,” which cost Fox and New Regency about $58 million to make, was a disappointing fourth, taking in about $18.1 million. And the animated “Epic” (Fox) was fifth, selling $12.1 million in tickets, for a three-week total of $84.2 million.
Why did audience interest surge for “The Purge”? Universal and Blumhouse Productions backed the horror movie with a savvy social media marketing campaign. The concept was also fresh: in the movie’s futuristic plot, any and all crime is legalized during one 12-hour period each year. “The Internship,” on the other hand, was lambasted by some critics as a glorified infomercial for Google, and its marketing campaign, in particular its outdoor advertisements, appeared to copy the playbook of comedies past.
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June 10, 2013 at 9:24 AM
Midweek: ‘Yamla Pagla Deewana 2’ affected by ‘Yeh Jawaani Hai Deewani’ wave!
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June 10, 2013 at 12:46 PM
Haha Satyam–‘ affected’ is an understatement here…in this box office rampage….
Btw they have released portions of ‘subhanallah’
Dedicated to the spoof
What poetry–what depth…
Btw deepika looked cuter /sexier in these glasses —than without
Those like Satyam who were waiting for bikinis won’t understand…
Btw amy–I actually won’t mind deepika in NOTHING BUT these glasses 🙂
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June 10, 2013 at 2:01 PM
“But if YJHD is a protracted ad for the likes of makemytrip.com and FoxTraveller, it can also have a curious touch of the real if, like protagonist Bunny (charming Ranbir), you too have been a nomad at heart. To the world you might seem an irresponsible, selfish and confused rake but that’s what you are: a rolling stone on a journey in life. A journey that may have a few stops on the way but no definite arrivals. This “banjarapan” is captured well in Amitabh Bhattacharya’s lyrics for the song Kabira: Kisi thaur tike na paanv. The one to implicitly understand the drifter is the father, played with affection and grace by Farooque Sheikh. Or the dignified step-mother, Tanvi Azmi, who doesn’t want his passion for travel to die. These are brief roles, but standout performances—the scenes between them give the film its emotional wallop.
The counterpoint to Ranbir is his giddy, blustery good at heart friend, played with spontaneity by Kalki Koechlin, who, despite unrequited love, decides to home in on another who cares for her. Or the hawt-in-specs heroine Naina (Deepika), who doesn’t believe in waiting. As the film states, none of them is ‘wrong’, only ‘different’ in the way they deal with relationships. It’s these warp and weft of urban relationships that could have been explored more. Instead, Ayan Mukherjee takes the accepted way out. He makes the traveller hero halt and settle down when he could have let him carry on, if not alone then in the company of someone significant. The traveller in me, ultimately, returned disappointed.” Nmarta Joshi.
( Namrata: I was not disappointed precisely because for a change a girl had her way than the guy.)
http://outlookindia.com/article.aspx?285937
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June 10, 2013 at 2:33 PM
Ranbir may not of this type of heady success too soon. So I wont grudge him all these accolades. Films are not mathematical formulas to follow a pattern. They are always a case of diminishing marginal returns. Madhuri could not replicate the case of stupendous success after HAHK. Even Salman is facing some resistance.
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June 10, 2013 at 2:34 PM
may not get
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June 10, 2013 at 3:20 PM
A big success carries with it its own negative baggage for the future. The expectations will be more and if he fails to touch the same level of success, he will be termed as a fluke.
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June 10, 2013 at 3:47 PM
don’t think he’s going anywhere. He’s making the right choices. And he has this great narrative to support him as well. I’m not arguing against him either, just commenting on a certain media reception which strikes me as being absurd in its hyperbole.
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June 10, 2013 at 5:15 PM
media’s job is to create hype (to sell its content)…remember not so long ago there was really huge hype, hoopla and anticipation around Vivek Oberoi and he was tauted as next biggest star…today he is nowhere (though a certain SK is credited with destroying his career and am not sure how much truth in that). Same with Shahid Kapoor, the youth icon.
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June 10, 2013 at 6:38 PM
AFTER EARTH
The reviews are overwhelmingly bad–so bad that its impossible to find ONE good review. Had little opther options, so checked it out yesterday since my instinct told me it cant be that bad (reasonable at the v least)–luckily my instinct was right…
Liked it and enjoyed it…
Neither the Summer blockbuster, nor is it pathbreaking but crap it certainly aint!
I have been irritated by Will Smiths attempts at nepotism for some time & was wary of his son a lot.But its a warm bonding movie with a bit of soul –yes for all the visual pyrotechnics, this is missin in many sci-fi flicks.
Will smith shows flashes of his star power (briefly) and sits back–literally with a fractured femur..Its a cross between Oblivion and some other action adventure/alien flicks but importantly it kept me awake and moderately entertained throughout the duration.
I can say the same about some other ‘biggies’–
Nap time in Iron man 3 was about 10 min
Oblivion was about 15 min
in this one, it was zero
BUt thats not the only credit–
Think theres something perverse in the negativity…
When i read this before watching the film, i laughed out loud
i LOL @ racism sabotaging this film….BUT
after watching the film, i wasnt sure….
and im not alone….
check out the blog acitivity—
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3027181/posts
ps—how can WIll Smith have the audacity to indulge in naked nepotism and get his son (another black) to the centrestage in a blockbuster aspirant role
and to top it all… directed by Manoj n shyamalan
who has been hidden in publicity but how can he be hidden from the meida coterie….
Anyhow, i suspect that this will be the last Will Smith Summer Blockbusters….
Just like, I said goodbye to SRK in JTHJ….
Adieu Will Smith–u were gr8 while u lasted…
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June 10, 2013 at 6:48 PM
To add– i was reminded repeatedly of BnB and Sarkaar, where in a still charismatic and much superior dad held back to let the son tkae in the limelight.
The “dad” failed in this attempt in both scenarios
The result was worthwhile /reasonable
As for SHyamalan, the poor guy is already bad news. He creates his most ‘normal’ ‘conventional’ movie till date and keeps it simple!
and here it gets torn apart for keeping it simple!
Unfortunately he isnt a Tarantino who can get away wiht murder andbehave obscenely in interviews (and still manage to get defenders)!!
ANother ‘racism’ allegation
http://www.communityjournal.net/is-will-and-jaden-smiths-after-earth-being-sabotaged-by-racists/
—imo only partly correct but does has some weight!
The above is perhaps the ONLY semi positive/ non-negative review on After Earth….in the whole blogosphere….
Apparently on certain portals, the one or two reviewers who said something remotely positive–their credibilty was questioned by the coterie and they had to back down.
Unfortunately i had/have/will have no such compulsion !!
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June 11, 2013 at 2:15 PM
Here comes the easy punching bag…but a star reality which is yuva and bunty or bubli both where offered to hrithik Roshan who chickened out and sarkar to akshay kumar
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June 11, 2013 at 2:33 PM
neither the Yuva (certainly not for the Lallan part) nor the Sarkar story is correct. And even BnB is a much more ‘complicated’ story. The thing is films are often offered to different stars at various stages for all sorts of reasons. If one started making such a list it would be encyclopedic! Beyond this various stars are mentioned at different points in a film’s production process. Some of this info gets leaked out and it becomes an actual ‘offer’ where there has been none. Of course one shouldn’t take 99% of the stuff that is written about in the film media seriously. It is either totally false, largely false or somewhat true but false in its ‘narrative’. Here it’s always interesting to think of stars who supposedly keep refusing the choicest projects!
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June 11, 2013 at 2:36 PM
I heard SRK turned down YJHD!
No, not Ranbir’s role but Kalki’s husband!
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June 11, 2013 at 2:42 PM
LOL!
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June 11, 2013 at 3:09 PM
Kalki husband was introduced by rohan sippy only in nautanki saala ala mandar
Srk has said personally in his interview that he wanted to do bunty or bubli because of curious title
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June 10, 2013 at 10:56 PM
“to indulge in naked nepotism and get his son (another black) to the centrestage in a blockbuster aspirant role”
Wait, wait, wait…Will Smith’s son is black?!
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June 11, 2013 at 8:35 AM
Wait wait wait… Gf aka girlfriends has picked up this fact–so what if it is damn obvious —so what if gf missed the ‘anti-joke’ ‘off-colour’ humour here !!!
Errr if gf doesn’t know it, it surely doesn’t exist -innit..
Gf also missed the possibility of mixed race kids —
(Though jaden smith is 3/4 black technically)— but any how let’s applaud gf for again voluntarily announcing she is ‘gorillas friend aka gf’ 🙂
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June 11, 2013 at 10:29 AM
“missed the ‘anti-joke’ ‘off-colour’ humour ”
Trust me buddy there’s not a word you’ve ever posted here I’ve taken as anything but a bad joke.
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June 11, 2013 at 11:54 AM
Trust me buddy –I agree with that …but to be honest, there’s not many words u have ever posted here (& as many others have pointed out) that do not smack of fake snob-appeal and pretentious word play– that doesn’t equal context & content…!!
Obviously I’m not forcing u to agree –as for ‘bad jokes’ unsure what has forced u to spend aeons readin them, dissecting them and then finally coming with such an imbecile misinterpretation of them ( as above) & above all thinking uve been smart!!
Ps: anyhow this wasn’t meant to be a ‘mauling’–so relax..
As for ‘anti jokes’ and ‘post-modern humour’ I think u are too ‘intellectual’ to get the grip –just leave em
They are not for ‘gorillas’ 🙂 (sorry çouldnt resist)
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June 11, 2013 at 12:19 PM
And a friendly suggestion gf—if u don’t mind
Obviously I’m not at all at the level of these esteemed posters–but word play and flowery language isn’t a substitute for content and context
Just by watching /reading Shakespeare isn’t good.
As examples –try reading the posts of q, munna, Amy, anu, annjo(pencho) and finally Satyam…u may benefit..
And plz don’t spend time on my post modern humour–it’s not worth your while (& is infact beyond u as of now) 🙂
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June 11, 2013 at 12:21 PM
“what has forced u to spend aeons readin them, dissecting them and then finally coming with such an imbecile misinterpretation of them ( as above) & above all thinking uve been smart!!”
It’s doesn’t take all that long to read your commentary alex, and you spam this site so it’s kind of difficult to circumvent the constant stream of garbage you spew out, especially when much of it is begging for attention. And I’ll admit some of this is pretty amusing but not for the reasons you think. It’s kind of like seeing an animal attempting speech. Finally, I’m never in the habit of dissecting flatulence. I just don’t mind pointing out when something stinks.
As always I apologize to Satyam for my lack of grace. I’ll step away from this lovely discussion.
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June 11, 2013 at 12:25 PM
Relax gf– I didn’t intend to offend u (frankly)
Btw Oh I forgot utkal uncle, sanju, Oldgold & Di– to tell u the truth– they all make sense (& that’s what matters)
This is not a ‘creative writing’ context–& do pass on this message to your friend and guide b Rangan 🙂
Ps– c’mon gf— kool it maan…u r the rockstar…
And I admit to all those transgressions hahaha
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June 11, 2013 at 12:38 PM
On a lighter note–gf u seem to have done a gr8 job in YPD2–in between the deols in that fur-suit 🙂
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June 11, 2013 at 1:53 AM
Yeh Jawaani Hai Deewani Set To Emerge The Second Biggest Grosser Ever
Tuesday 11th June 2013 09.30 IST
Boxofficeindia.Com Trade Network
Yeh Jawaani Hai Deewani is set to emerge the second biggest grosser ever of Hindi cinema looking at its second week trends. The film is all set to cross the business of Ek The Tiger and finish around the 190 crore nett mark.
The way the film is going it will cross 150 crore nett in two weeks and will show a 55% drop in week two. This trend is likely to be easily repeated again next week as Fukhrey is no Yamla Pagla Deewana 2 so there will not be that second Friday fall that Yeh Jawaani Hai Deewani saw this week.
Yeh Jawaani Hai Deewani will be at 172-173 crore nett after three weeks at a minimum and should then go past the 186 crore nett total of Ek Tha Tiger.
The third week is very important in terms of where the film goes, if it holds stronger than this week due to the weaker competition then even a challenge of Three Idiots record figure of 200 crore nett is not ruled out. A 45% drop in week three will take the film very close to 180 crore nett in three weeks and then it will have very good chances of crossing 200 crore nett.
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June 11, 2013 at 3:41 AM
What can be easily determined by YJHD’s performance is a number of biggies, especially the more massy types have underperformed since 3 Idiots. Having seen YJHD, there is nothing “special” about it but it is still an outside threat to the 200 crore barrier…in fact if it had a clean run it probably would have got close. But none of the past 4 years’ big films have even endeavoured to this! And this is a pretty multiplex friendly film on the whole.
Maybe a somewhat perfect storm of timing, promotion, fresh lead pair, pop music helped give this film buzz…but quite obviously you’d like to think a Katrina-Salman or SRK-Katrina starrer had and should have a bit more going for it!
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June 11, 2013 at 4:57 AM
“but quite obviously you’d like to think a Katrina-Salman or SRK-Katrina starrer had and should have a bit more going for it!”
no jay – it would have been otherwise. It is only because RK / DP – and then the additional factors – this is such a monstrous hit.
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June 11, 2013 at 7:15 AM
yes it certainly shows just how much the mass films underperform.
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June 11, 2013 at 11:42 AM
In current currency, If they have 3 Idiots like appreciation, more than 300 crore. Hum Aapke Hain Kaun – I can not estimate 🙂 Gadar somewhere in between.
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June 11, 2013 at 12:06 PM
I agree with those points munna and Satyam…
Those films WILL do much more now as u pointed out–due to market expansion, unconventional audiences, inflation etc
BUT what nobody had ever mentioned ever is–
How is one so sure that the audiences of NOW will respond to them in the same orgasmic manner as then–as noted trends/tastes/preferences of audiences change month to month really… So yeah they are still likely to work in a big way but I’m not sure if a ‘logarithmic’ or exponential graph can give the exptrapolared final box office figures–
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June 11, 2013 at 12:43 PM
But it’s not about how audiences would react to older films ‘now’ but about what the equivalent of those older films would be today if it were liked in the same way.
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June 11, 2013 at 12:34 PM
Of course.. when I saw chalti ka naam gaadi last time, it looked more like a kid movie. Our tastes change. I see 90s movie and cringe at clothes during that time. But there are movies which garner audience appreciation more than the normal and they do extra business. Be it Sholay or Hum Aapke Hain Kaun, Gadar or 3 Idiots (to some extent..It was liked more in multiplex than mass areas but there were repeat audience). In that sense ETT or Dabangg-1 or YJHD are good performers but nothing extraordinary. If they have similar audience appreciation they would have done business as I said above not touching or nearing benchmark.
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June 11, 2013 at 12:37 PM
Good point munna–I felt the same about chalti ka Naam whatever–also unsure how much sholay/gaddar etc would be liked by today’s audiences–actually it’s difficult to predict…
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June 11, 2013 at 12:33 PM
I dont think it is a matter of these mass films underperforming.It is just that they werent liked that much and hteir final grosses owed a large part to massive initials. This is the point Satyam,myself and others have been making all along. And, idiots always used to argue using the final gross that they were ‘successful’ films. This actually reinforces the trending theory! A film that opens big if liked can go onto more than triple their opening weekend. A lot of people have argued that the final figureis the only thing that matters and not how it got there. But, this proves that even those final grosses arent really a sign of a successor acceptance of a movie.
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June 11, 2013 at 12:48 PM
yes.. how is it possible to say that YJHD is a blockbuster (I agree) but say the same for ETT which was a mass film (and therefore potentially a lot more eyeballs and in addition had a vastly bigger week number)? In other words both films might end up at the same number or YJHD might do somewhat less than that or more (depending on the weeks ahead). The expectations from ETT were 150 crores at the very least and actually more. And the film lived upto these by doing 150 or so in the first 7-9 days or so. And then it more or less collapsed. On the other hand YJHD will probably end up doing double (at the very least) of what was expected from it in the best case scenario. The two cannot be compared in any universe. All the final gross arguments are as you rightly say completely bogus.
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June 11, 2013 at 8:11 AM
I am a little bemused by this talk of ‘ underperforminmg’ by everyone. Isn’t t it be more meaningful to say films like 3 Idiots and to a lesser extent, ETT or YJHD have performed wonderfully.
Otherwise one can . look at Picasso’s output and say ,’ Look how the other artists underperformed!’. Or one can look at Mahatma Gandhi and say , ‘ Look how the other politicians underperrform!’. Whom we call ‘genius’ , ‘great’ or ‘ brilliant’ is with respect to the average.
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June 11, 2013 at 8:27 AM
I find it more amusing that Gandhi and Picasso are introduced in a dialogue about Salman Khan and Karan Johar movies.
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June 11, 2013 at 9:51 AM
yes ‘one can’ say a lot of things when one’s sanity is in question..
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June 11, 2013 at 8:36 AM
Gandhi & Picasso … Salman khan & kjo –end of sentence …
More amusement for gf–go smile away now kid–uve got your share of thrills …. 🙂
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June 11, 2013 at 10:02 AM
there is a kind of comparison that renders one’s language meaningless. Of course it doesn’t hold in this case even otherwise since the problem with mass films isn’t about how good or bad they are but that they’re clearly not satisfying even their core audience enough. When they do on the rare occasion trending is very good. This is true for a film that opened at the somewhat lower end like Singham and faced competition from ZNMD eventually and equally it is true for Ghajini which broke all opening records at the time and was nonetheless extraordinarily stable. Rajneeti itself was masala enough and it too trended well. We’ve been hearing these excuses for years but from the multiple end of the equation (ZNMD or Barfi) to the mass end films that are truly liked show a minimally strong trending. This debate isn’t about whether the films are good or bad. Even doing 200 crores doesn’t necessarily imply a great film! No one’s saying YJHD is even DDLJ let alone anything more. But the film has clearly been sufficient for its base. No one would argue against a film that opened at 45 crores and went on to do 90. Or a 70 crore opener going on to 140 or a bit less. We’re talking about films having the vast bulk of their gross in the first 5-7 days. In Hollywood plenty of ‘nothing’ films are still expected to maintain a certain trending. So leaving aside the absurdity of certain comparisons even the at the very basic level the logic doesn’t hold. We call those painters average who are not greats like Picasso or Matisse or whoever but nonetheless produce important works on their own. We don’t call those average who don’t even display a basic talent level! No one expects Gambhir to play like Sachin. But he can’t come back after scoring 10 or 20 each time! if he did there would be a problem!
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June 11, 2013 at 8:46 AM
Limitless extrapolation-problems
NO real market exists on hypothetical figures
The ASSUMPTION is that figures can go on and on if a liked movie does not ‘underperform’
I politely disagree–
A) the slope of the graph decreases -as item goes by after release
B) multiple complex factors kick in like
Piracy
Telly
Other coexistent events
Distractions
Other releases
Fatigue
Waning interest
C) pool of people who NEVER /can’t view films is a constant
And so on…
Also one can agree that 3 idiots was a MUCH better film besides having aamir, hirani, munnabhai, momentum, and a good storyline and perfect confluence of mass and class…
Then a counter question is –inspite of being SO MCUH better, why did it do only 200 odd…
Agreed that correcting for inflation, market expansion, it will do much more now–but how can one be sure that the audience tastes/profiles/ responses today will be the same
Till the time a film actually trumps the 3I target, that’s the REAL score–the rest are conjectures …
And no real transactions happen on imagination
Ofcourse one can opine and hypothesise on blogs -doesn’t take a penny–but that’s not the real world…
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June 11, 2013 at 10:59 AM
If one says the distance between Jhumri Talaya and Dhanbad is the same as or double the distance between New York and Boston , one is not saying Boston is same as Jhumri Talaya or Dhanbad is same as Boston. No one is even comparing the two. One is merely comparing the distance between the two.
Satyam: ” No one’s saying YJHD is even DDLJ let alone anything more.: I , for one, am saying , I acfre more for YJHD than DDLJ., which is the usual Aditya Chopra trash, though the best among his three efforts. In my review, I have explained why YJHD is unlike DDLJ or KKHH and why it has some thing more genuine at the core compared to DDLJ or KKHH.
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June 11, 2013 at 12:42 PM
your aches might have cures other than the ones that lead to your gross comparisons..
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June 11, 2013 at 11:00 AM
one is not saying Boston is same as Jhumri Talaya or Dhanbad is same as New York.
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June 11, 2013 at 11:14 AM
“No one expects Gambhir to play like Sachin. But he can’t come back after scoring 10 or 20 each time! if he did there would be a problem!” Sure. But if Sachin scores 100 and Gambhir scores 50, and most others score 20 or 30, you don’t say Gambhir is underperformimg. you say Sachin is a genius. The one who scores 20 or less is the underperformer. If Chris Ggayle scores 160, ven those who score 60 are not called underperformers. You just call Gayle extraordinary.
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June 11, 2013 at 12:46 PM
Box-office aside, finally caught the film on big screen and liked it quite a bit. I agree with BR’s take in that it is not neccessarily a great film but has some brilliant moments. The plot line and treatment draws obvious comparisions to ZNMD which also I liked quite a bit but prefer this over ZNMD. There is a decent filmamker inside Aayan Mukherjee and there are some really splendid moments that connect. Someone mentioned DDLJ. There is really no comparision there. This is a far more accomplished film and Mukherjee is a far better director than Aditya. I certainly would not put this film in that candyfloss category.
The performances are uniformly excellent. Some have said this is Deepika’s film. I beg to differ. This is by far her best outing and she does admirably well but the film is anchored by Ranbir and he is excellent. So are Kalki and Kapur. Some very likeable cameos from Farooq Sheikh and the guy who plays Kalki’s fiancee/husband. The way that character is treated reveals a lot about Aayan. Very nicely done. It would have been so easy to portray himn as a bumbling baffoon.Instead, Aayan imprts a certain grace and dignity to his character. Pritam’s score is excellent. Some have felt the film drags in the second half but I didnt find it so. Aayan does succumb to BO pressures quite a bit but not a crime in my book.
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June 11, 2013 at 12:50 PM
I really think the last 20mins was not needed! It’s typical KJo IMO to drag out another scenario.
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June 11, 2013 at 12:53 PM
Put SRK in stead of Ranbir and you would have butchered the movie 😉
ps – It follows DDLJ template in the sense, Boy is carefree ( you need to make him more carefree[hence self proclaiming flirt] than 90s SRK because it is 20 years later), girl is seedhi saadhi. Go on a trip…Second half they meet at Marriage venue with obvious liking for each other. If Aditya makes DDLJ now, it probably would look similar.
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June 11, 2013 at 12:57 PM
Even if it is a joke, I find the insinuation offensive. I dont think it would be the same film with even a young SRK in place of Ranbir as Ibelieve Ranbir isa far btter performer and more charismatic. But, that IS food for thought. Had SRK been more involved in this kind of films and IF he had Ranbir’s off scren persona and likeability, may be my views and treatment of SRK and his fans could have been different!
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June 11, 2013 at 1:03 PM
Sorry you felt offended. Please see PS part in reply.
ps – It is not a bad movie to watch but all the emotions and dynamics are superficial. The same I said about ZNMD and it coincidences of fear.
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June 11, 2013 at 1:13 PM
Munna,
Just one example- look at Farooq Sheikh is porrayed here as opposed the caqricature that Kher’s character was in DDLJ.
There really is no comparision here. As you point out there are some superficial similarities here but the treatment and products are vastly different. Chalk and cheese or like comparing a melodious gazal to a loud item song!
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June 11, 2013 at 1:07 PM
Aaditya made JTHJ ( really, he did tho Yashji had the credit) and one can see the difference between Aaditya of 2013 and Aayan of 2013. BTW, not really offended. Was just trying to make you feel bad-:).
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June 11, 2013 at 1:11 PM
I think DDLJ still holds up well. Unlike just about any other film in this genre from the 90s. For instance I find KKHH unwatchable at this point.
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June 11, 2013 at 1:16 PM
also think SRK is fine during this phase. Had a certain flamboyance that went well with those films. It doesn’t seem as fresh as it once did but he still works in this film and some others surrounding it. Which doesn’t mean it’s a great performance or anything (!), just that he’s right for that terrain in ways that Aamir for example couldn’t be.
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June 11, 2013 at 1:18 PM
Re: I think DDLJ still holds up well.
Yes, it does but I think largely due to SRK’s boundless energy, the SRK-Kaajol chemistry and the score. I still think as a film it is prety mediocre but certainly, SRK’s best in a strictly commercial format ( I still regard Chak De as his best overall and am not too fond of his Swades performance) and he deserves a lot of credit for its success.
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June 11, 2013 at 1:25 PM
It’s mediocre, true but it is so in the way a lot of classics are mediocre. Not saying this is the best example of such a classic but leaving aside ideological issues (which I of course have with it) it is not inferior to say the average Shammi Kapoor film. Now one might prefer the latter for the music or whatever but the scripts were rarely better than DDLJ’s. It’s not like the best of Rajesh Khanna where the films had strong scripts.
Is DCH on the other hand superior to DDLJ? Absolutely.
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June 12, 2013 at 3:22 AM
DDLJ is a classic. One doesn’t need to like a classic to acknowledge it as one. I’d agree with Satyam on that score. Also that KKHH is impossible to watch now too. I think Aditya was OK as a director…in all his 3 films, DDLJ/Mohabbatein/RNBDJ he has his moments. And I’d take DDLJ over YJHD anyday of the week…for a start, the music is about 50 billion times better IMO.
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June 12, 2013 at 3:30 AM
And that’s not to shoot down Ranbir. I think if your a fan of him, he’s done far better films (and performances) to endorse than this one!
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June 11, 2013 at 1:26 PM
Okay, if we are comparing it to Shammi Kapoor films I dont have the slightest problem! -:).
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June 11, 2013 at 12:49 PM
Yes but the scenario here is of Gambhir playing a very fluent 10-20 and then getting out most of the time when he could very easily make 50 or a 100. One could hardly say that a century isn’t possible except when it’s Sachin!
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June 11, 2013 at 1:02 PM
Utkal, the problem with your argument is that these ‘underperforming’ films were proclaimed to be massive hits which they were not. They did make money for all/most of those involved but werent really ‘liked’ or ‘accepted’ as much. YJHD has shown once again how a really well liked film performs.If one goes back and looks at the epithets bestowed upon those films in question, you will realise the unfairness of your argument. I dont have a problem with Sachin- Gambhir argument but those ‘underperforming’ films were being treated as Sachin and there in lies the problem!
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June 11, 2013 at 12:50 PM
A surprisingly good and balanced review there by rajen uncle…
Time also for rajen uncle to call back poor anu and some others he has inadvertently scared away by his Bachchan fandom 🙂
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June 11, 2013 at 12:53 PM
yes genius scares some.. that shouldn’t prevent the rest of us from appreciating the likes of Bachchan or Sachin or whoever it happens to be along these lines! I am a militant about these things. I’m all for the iconoclastic. However if the lines between the authentically great and the totally mediocre are constantly blurred as they are in today’s discourse one must give such commentary the response it deserves!
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June 11, 2013 at 12:58 PM
LOL,Satyam!
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June 11, 2013 at 12:59 PM
There are no permanent friends or permanent enemies. It is nice to see rajen and apex agreeing on something.
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June 11, 2013 at 1:05 PM
Now, I have to take a shower!
All kiddin aside, I have often said that there is a movie buff inside Alex that is a welcome presence but is lost amidst constant posturing and attempts at oneupmanship and desparate attention seeking.
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June 11, 2013 at 1:13 PM
And would have to say that there IS a sensible voice in rajen uncle –if he is not drowned in bachchan fandom.
It’s good to be a fan (esp of the likes of bachchan sr) but one shouldn’t take this ‘policing’ of anti bachchan comments to the extreme imo..
Actually genuine legends like bachchan (sr) don’t need such defense..
Ps: as for taking a shower, certain ‘sins’ don’t get washed away by that –joking 🙂
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June 11, 2013 at 1:18 PM
genuine legends like Bachchan also don’t need some of the madness that some folks launch at them! The thing is one can’t have it both ways. You can’t say crazy stuff about a titan and then when someone defends him (or her) say that ‘oh a legend needs no defense’! Now perhaps the mad should be ignored. that’s a different point. But in which case the ‘defense’ is also aimed at highlighting the madness!
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June 11, 2013 at 1:40 PM
I get your point Satyam–but think that some like poor anu were treated in an excessive manner due to their bachchan comments –she wasn’t like some other compulsive bachchan haters who turn up here
Satyam–Time for u to show some ‘ maturity’ & ‘magnanimity’ and make an ‘announcement’ for the ‘wronged’ like anu and Oldgold to start posting again…
Btw Yjhd ‘secret’ success party—
Note the hilarious ‘suspense’ laden tone…
“there is still any paani in the doodh to be separated?”–@ utkal uncle— that sounds a double entrende lol 🙂
Sanju beware…
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June 11, 2013 at 2:29 PM
didn’t think Anu had left because of that exchange. As for Oldgold I told her more than once not to leave. Ultimately it’s everyone’s will and wish but I think people shouldn’t take online stuff so personally.
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June 11, 2013 at 2:30 PM
It is likely Anu left because of that thread but really no big deal. Her comments on that thread show it is no big loss.
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June 11, 2013 at 2:39 PM
the other thing here and this gets back to the earlier point but it’s a bit silly to posit some kind of Bachchan ‘fandom’ as being the equivalent of just any other kind. A bit like saying being a Sachin fanatic is the same as being a Dhoni fanatic! Now an unthinking attitude isn’t useful anywhere in life. However when one is talking about titans the one defending them also cannot be expected to provide a complete resume of their achievements each and every time. Perhaps one shouldn’t make the effort to defend the legend before some very mad attacks, that’s a different issue. But the idea that somehow it’s all the same is ridiculous. So while one shouldn’t be a fanatic in any situation some subjects are more worthy of this sentiment than others. It’s harder to overrate Sachin than Gambhir!
Secondly those who get into this stuff should also have done some of their own homework. A lot of people just aren’t familiar with the movies, they don’t know what they’re talking about, their comments reveal this, and then they feel their opinions should be given as much weight as anything else. Not referring to Anu here by the way, just making a general point. It’s fine if one isn’t aware of some of the histories but then one shouldn’t substitute informed opinion with these imaginary positions.
the ethical responsibility doesn’t run only in one direction! One is expected to know what one is commenting on! It’s not good enough to say ‘I’ll catch Kaala Pathar next week but in the meantime here’s my opinion on Amitabh Bachchan’! Or if it’s a limited opinion in this sense it should be highlighted as such. I have enormous respect for Mohanlal, I’ve seen a number of his important films but despite the fact that I’ve only been impressed with what I’ve seen I’m very conscious of the fact that I haven’t seen a very great deal. I just don’t have that sense of complete judgement (for want of a better term) with his work. Because I haven’t even seen all the iconic films. This matters.
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June 11, 2013 at 2:45 PM
and then there are SRK fans who proudly say SRK turned down Munnabhai. I’m glad that he did but if I were a fan I’d be pretty embarrassed about this! Much as Abhishek turning down not one but both important parts in RDB is his single most mystifying decision. Specially given his other risky choices.
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June 11, 2013 at 1:15 PM
Munna”; “If Aditya makes DDLJ now, it probably would look similar.” He wrote and produced Jab tak Hai Jaan..and it is even more puerile than DDLj..with 70’s stuff like retrogade amnesia. YJHD is nothing like the DDLJ template. Naian is not seedhi sadhi. Sje is an introvert but knows who she is and brings Bunny to his knees. And Bunny is not carefree. He gets a schol to study in a reouted institite in US. Does well in his profession. And you will not got a SINGLE moment like the conversation between Bunny and Avi. Ayan is about a zillion light years ahead of Aditya as a writer and filmmaker. And Ranbir is a far subtler actor than SRK. Anda better student of cinema…which shows in his work.
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June 11, 2013 at 1:19 PM
Re: If Aditya makes DDLJ now, it probably would look similar.” He wrote and produced Jab tak Hai Jaan..and it is even more puerile than DDLj..with 70′s stuff like retrogade amnesia. YJHD is nothing like the DDLJ template
Entirely,agree. Made the same point above!
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June 11, 2013 at 4:29 PM
🙂 If Ramesh Sippy directs Zamana Deewana that doesn’t take away Sholay? There are many reasons a person can choose not to direct a movie on certain line.
If I start nitpicking: How old was Ranbir to go to undergraduate college in Chicago that too on scholarship for Journalism which is very rare to get for international students. Taking into account he was with Deepika’s class in primary and she was studying medicine at start of the movie. Was he failing in his class or preparing for TOEFL that he still needed to start undergrad.
“Naian is not seedhi sadhi. Sje is an introvert but knows who she is and brings Bunny to his knees.” So do you think Kajol was any different? When she made a carefree and noncommittal guy run to India?
“And Bunny is not carefree.” – What was his character like ?
“And you will not got a SINGLE moment like the conversation between Bunny and Avi.” – Do you find Kajol and SRK conversations in Europe boring/dull?
“And Ranbir is a far subtler actor than SRK. Anda better student of cinema…which shows in his work.” – How?
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June 11, 2013 at 4:52 PM
“How old was Ranbir to go to undergraduate college in Chicago that too on scholarship for Journalism which is very rare to get for international students. ”
Since this is KJO’s venture, Ranbir is funded by the nexus amongst SRK, Mukesh Ambani & wife, and the Indian Association in the University..just as SRK was a ‘prestigious’ but nonetheless mysteriously ‘selected’ guest at Yale..
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June 11, 2013 at 7:14 PM
Lol, An Jo!
Munna,buddy- you are clutching at straws-:). But, honestly , if you dont find a difference between Aditya and Ayan, between DDLJ and YJHD – there is no point arguing! YJHD is far from a perfect film but far more refined tjan DDLJ!
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June 11, 2013 at 8:23 PM
Haha..Then people should eschew talking about soul , emotion and what not ..It is a decently made film. You can enjoy it. IMO it is marginally better than ilks of Break ke baad, Anjana Anjaani..nothing more.
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June 11, 2013 at 10:54 PM
Agree completely Munna….I certainly did not find this film to be better than DDLJ. YJHD was pretty puerile in my opinion, even ZNMD was far more tastefully executed and contained a few moments of genuine beauty.
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June 11, 2013 at 1:26 PM
Let CE release. Doodh ka doodh paani ka paani hojayega. Whether SRK still has it to give a fight. And Besharam will decide whether Ranbir is one trick pony or not. Everywhere the fans are confused and making confusing predictions.
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June 11, 2013 at 1:29 PM
Am not sure if one could call Ranbir a one trick pony even if Besharam doesnt hit the mark. This is neither his first film or his first success. A lot will depend on the kind of film Besharam is.
Agree to a degree that CE is a somehwat of a test for SRK as long as the yardstick is properly defined. If it makes a 100 crore, does it mean SRK is still the king? I dont think so!
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June 11, 2013 at 3:09 PM
If the first Dabangg is anything to go by I don’t think there will be any issues with Besharam succeeding. Not to mention (and as much as I liked Salman in that film) unlike in Dabangg, here the writer-director actually has a gifted actor to work with. This is, in any case, more of an acid test for Abhinav Kashyap (who in Chulbul Pandey really gave Hindi cinema its first readymade icon since Hirani’s Munnabhai) than it is for Ranbir.
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June 11, 2013 at 1:29 PM
Ranbir has done a variety of films though. He’s certainly not a one trick pony in this sense. In box office terms though every star has to become this to keep jacking up the initial. It is precisely a similar genre and or part that attracts the audience. Besharam is actually a great followup to YJHD assuming Kashyap delivers. The initial should be huge.
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June 11, 2013 at 1:27 PM
In fact, from DDLJ to Mohabbatein to RDBNJ to JBTHJ..he has only regressed as filmmaker. ( Though, to be fair, RDBNJ was a little better than the two films it is sandwiched between)
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June 11, 2013 at 1:30 PM
Sanjana: When a film like Barfi makes as much JTHJ..there is still any paani in the doodh to be separated?
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June 11, 2013 at 2:57 PM
In Current business scenario it is very highly unlikely that big movies with big stars and big release size collect less than 70 Crore a week. Even with average content, movies are collecting this much at least.
In last 3 years only 3 big movies failed … TMK, Himmatwala and YPD-2 …. and these movies failed mainly because of hugely negative WOM. Otherwise even with mixed WOM big movies are highly unlikely to collect less than 100 .. and once 120+ we call it Blockbuster .. and just inches above 120, we call it ATBB .. no matter audience accept or reject it.
And with 150/- average ticket price .. 100 Crore is just 66 Lakhs audience … which is less than footfalls of flop movies five years back.
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June 11, 2013 at 3:33 PM
I would dare say less than just 15% of audience and inflated ticket prices has helped only …price of ticket matters as in interior of country a movie may sell more ticket but it is nuetralised by less ticket price and conveniently ignored in final gross
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June 11, 2013 at 3:47 PM
This is sad fact relative to market most of these movies are underperforming
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June 11, 2013 at 11:38 PM
Yamla Pagla Deewana 2 Monday Business
Tuesday 11th June 2013 12.30 IST
Boxofficeindia.Com Trade Network
Yamla Pagla Deewana 2 grossed around 3.50-3.75 crore nett on Monday as it held up well in Delhi/UP, East Punjab and Rajasthan while other circuits dropped more than 50% than Friday.
Although the all India drop is around 50% from Friday which is decent for a Monday, the problem is that Friday was not that strong. The film has grossed around 25 crore nett in four days and is likely to finish the week at around 31-32 crore nett.
The business of the film is likely to finish 25-30% less than Yamla Pagla Deewana which released in 2011.
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June 11, 2013 at 11:39 PM
taran adarsh @taran_adarsh 49m
Xclusiv: #ChennaiExpress and #OUATIMA clash averted… #ChennaiExpress arrives on 8 Aug, #OUATIMA on 15 Aug.
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June 11, 2013 at 11:39 PM
Akshay has the bigger date..
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June 11, 2013 at 11:40 PM
taran adarsh @taran_adarsh 20h
#YJHD is unstoppable even in Week 2. Mon 5.5 cr. Grand total: Rs 141.86 cr nett. Karan Johar, UTV, Ranbir and Deepika’s biggest hit!
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June 12, 2013 at 5:33 AM
Must Watch !
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June 12, 2013 at 9:06 AM
Xhobdo..
Here pic of John Day – Randeep Hooda https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BMj6UMiCAAAT15D.jpg
Pic of John Day – Naseeruddin Shah… https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BMj6N_kCAAAJ_u2.jpg
Thanks 🙂
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June 12, 2013 at 9:27 AM
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June 12, 2013 at 1:15 PM
🙂
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June 12, 2013 at 1:22 PM
Finally, the life and loves of legendary director Guru Dutt will be made into a film. It will be directed by Bhavna Talwar, who had won a National Award for her debut film,Dharam.
She has also secured exclusive rights to use the iconic songs in his films like Jaane Kya Tune Kahi and Yeh Duniya Agar Mil Bhi Jayen Toh Kya Hai (Pyaasa), and Waqt Ne Kiya Kya Haseen Situm and Dekhi Zamanein Ki Yaari (Kaagaz Ke Phool).
Apparently, Saregama/HMV — one of India’s oldest and well-stocked music companies — has given Talwar the exclusive rights to use the entire body of Guru Dutt’s music.
Says a source close to the project: “Saregama and Bhavna Talwar’s producer-husband Sheetal Talwar have signed a deal for the entire oeuvre of Guru Dutt’s music to be used in Bhavna’s film on Guru Dutt as and how required.”
Though Adarsh Gupta, Business Head of Saregama, confirms the deal, none of the two parties is willing to divulge the kind of monies that exchanged hands before this large treasure-chest of melodies passed into the Talwars’ hands. But here’s a hint: Tigmanshu Dhulia had to pay Rs 35 lakh for one Lata Mangeshkar classic Lag Ja Gale Se before it could be used in Sahib Biwi Aur Gangster Returns.
Shedding light on her ambitious Guru Dutt bio-pic, Talwar said, “It would look at the man and the filmmaker from one range of vision — mine. There will be lots of music but we will not over-use Guru Dutt’s vast repertoire of music just because we have access to it.”
As for Dutt’s family raising objections to the bio-pic, a source close to Talwar’s film says, “We’re very clear on the legal aspect of filming a real-life personality. We’ll only be using information on Guru Dutt that is in the public domain.”
http://www.rediff.com/movies/report/guru-dutts-life-now-on-film/20130612.htm
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June 12, 2013 at 1:30 PM
Tricky subject. Very tricky.
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June 12, 2013 at 2:47 PM
“Tricky subject. Very tricky”–haha
but this will interesting to watch–and the woman remaking it seems a serious sensible film maker–so she wont maul the subject
anyhow Masand with yjhd team
ps–note deepika’s…..
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June 12, 2013 at 5:29 PM
Deepika about Ayan: “He is one of those school teachers who spanks kids..”
Ayan: “But then, if it is Deepika, who would not spank?”
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June 12, 2013 at 5:36 PM
haha nykavi–well picked–u seem to have seen this video ‘minutely’…
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June 12, 2013 at 2:59 PM
yaiy–as usual i dont watch half the links i post–but saw this interview…since only 8 minutes
yaiy–ranbir said that YJHD sequel shoudl be in the works!!-as i had earlier said !!!
as i had suggested— a (W)WUS FRANCHISE
WONT wake up sid part 1 & part 2 (YJHD) already there
in the next one, ranbir ‘escapes’ from deepikas charms (and legs) and continues his shenanigans…part3, 4, 5…. –gets murkier and darker….
Circumstances and people CONSPIRE to wake him up but he ESCAPES 🙂
Wow–what a story idea–anyone reading this can make a brilliant franchise…hahaha
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June 13, 2013 at 12:06 AM
taran adarsh @taran_adarsh 15h
#YJHD is stupendous in Week 2. Mon 5.5 cr, Tue 4.75 cr. Grand total: Rs 146.61 cr nett. BLOCKBUSTER.
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June 13, 2013 at 2:26 AM
Random status updates from some of my Facebook friends: ( One t is a male and one female. When is it last that film created this level of empathy and engagement?)
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hmm… it does not happen that often that one of your loved ones goes to watch a movie and gives you a call right after leaving the theater because the character reminded them of you… My sister called me after watching Ranbir in YJHD, the only other time it has happened was with Shahid in Jab We met…”
“Sometimes for the silliest of movies I wish to see a sequel.. For instance, the case of a dreamy and yet so real and honest pairing of Bunny and Naina! So, we know that the two people who said “I love you” have decided that they are able enough the take responsibility of the three words… but then what? The curious me, wants to know what happens to their life after that 31st December night, when Bunny walks in with cake to tell her that ” Tu ne mera waat laga diya! Fasa liya! Ab main wahin sapne dekhta hoon par do ticket pe!”
How does their world unfurl now…what happens … ?
Do they travel the world together? Does Naina take extended weekends off from her doctors’ profession and join Bunny wherever he is?Does he take up his dream assignment travelling through Paris, Tokyo,Istanbul and Berlin? Does he settle down in Mumbai while Naina still runs her clinic?
So do they still take vacations in Manali and spot a deer in the wee hours of the morning light, celebrating a moment of their love?
Darn! I love my curious self!”
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June 13, 2013 at 7:01 AM
“We thank Jeetu sir and Balaji” – Shah Rukh Khan
By Bollywood Hungama News Network, Jun 13, 2013 – 11:26 hrs IST
Balaji Motion Pictures’ romantic drama Once Upon A Time In Mumbaai Dobara which was earlier slotted for an Eid release, along side Shah Rukh Khan’s Chennai Express will now release on Thursday, August 15, 2013 (Independence Day). It is learnt that Shah Rukh Khan spoke to Mr. Jeetendra and a meeting was held between Mr. Jeetendra, UTV and Shah Rukh Khan to resolve the situation of both the movies releasing together, and find a win-win situation for all.
“Keeping in mind that both weekends (8th Aug and 15th Aug) are good times for film releases, Jeetendra sir being the senior most showed the path. He took the decision to move Once Upon A Time In Mumbaai Dobara to August 15. This is extremely graceful of him. UTV, Rohit and I are very happy with the decision made and we thank Jeetu sir and Balaji for the same. This should pave the way for such mature and sensible amicable understandings whenever two films release on the same day in future too,” says Shah Rukh Khan.
“My father and Shah Rukh spoke and have clearly worked out what is best for both the films. Both are big and keenly awaited films and should not be made to eat into each other’s business. I have huge respect for SRK and wish him the best,” says Ekta Kapoor.
Chennai Express will now release on Aug 8 while Once Upon A Time in Mumbaai Dobara will release on Aug 15.
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