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Holiday – A Soldier Is Never Off Duty Has Good First Week
Friday 13 June 2014 11.30 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
Holiday – A Soldier Is Never Off Duty did well in its first as it grossed around 65.75 crore nett. The weekend was not quite up to the mark due to the opening being lacklustre but the film trended very well in the weekdays to come out with a good first week.
The second week should hold well and should be the highest second week of the year beating the figures of 2 States and Jai Ho which were 25 crore nett approx and 21.50 crore nett approx respectively.
The third week should see the film cross 100 crore nett which is not really a big deal today for big star films like Holiday – A Soldier Is Never Off Duty but as it did not open too well then the 100 crore mark becomes a bigger achievement than it would otherwise. In one or two circuits the film may well go on and be the highest Akshay Kumar grossing film ever. Holiday – A Soldier Is Never Off Duty has done good or at least decent business in all circuits across India in its first week.
Fugly Hoping To Go The Fukrey Way
Thursday 12 June 2014 11.30 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
Fugly will be hoping to go the Fukrey way which released exactly a year ago and was a similar film with a new cast. The other releases of the week stand little chance.
Holiday – a Soldier Is Never Off Duty will be providing big competition for Fugly and will be the first choice this weekend. Fukrey last year emerged a surprise hit starting with a 2.50 crore nett first day, it picked up pretty well over the weekend but came into its own in the weekdays and week two to emerge with a final total of just under 35 crore nett.
Fugly will be hoping of similar or more lifetime business though it will have to open better than Fukrey as the flow of releases is stronger this year and content will have to be very strong for it to have a run like Fukrey.
ALL answers will be given –but have the courage to NOT hide behind multiple layered moderation !!! (Moderation of posted comments is fine but this is beibg done Even before posting comments) 🙂
‘Contexts’ are important but sometimes numbers are so OVER/UNDERwhelming that all such contexts are
RIPPED APART :!!!
Reminds me of a sequence from holiday that all masala lovers should see –(SHAME on those who ‘masala’rant but don’t support such stuff!)
Akshay is surrounded on a boat by armed guards , (he ‘surrendered’ himself due threat to ‘innocent civilians’!)
Still
Satyam and his guards/cronies are scared of untying his hands–
Because they are aware of the B(G)ANG BANG that will follow hahahaha
THIS is a ‘trailer’like answer to the above question !! 🙂
Holiday Set To Be Top Grosser Of 2014
Saturday 14 June 2014 12.30 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
Holiday – A Soldier Is Never Off Duty is set to be the top grosser of the year till date as it maintained steady collections on its eighth day. The day eight collections were around the 4 crore nett mark.
The eighth day collections are the best of the year and that second weekend and second week will also follow that trend. The film will easily go over 15 crore nett (possibly even to 17-18 crore) for the weekend as Saturday and Sunday will show big growth.
Jai Ho is the biggest grosser of the year till date with 108 crore nett and Holiday – a Soldier Is Never Off Duty should beat that and get to the 110 crore nett mark. The film will show a drop from week three onwards due to the flow of big releases but as the film is established now it will still get the screenings to do decent business from week three onwards and take it towards that 110 crore nett total.
Finally checked out Dallas Buyers Club. Didn’t expect to like it very much but I must say that McConaughey’s performance really held it together and made the film far more interesting than it otherwise would have been. He’s really (and improbably) metamorphosed into not just a fine acting talent (maybe he never got the chance earlier) but equally a charismatic star performer and far more of one in this sense than he was even when he was doing those very commercial parts all those years ago. But this also confirms a long-standing thesis of mine. The part or a moment (re)makes the star-actor. It might be that the latter never gets such a moment or not enough times but that’s a different debate. Of course there has to be a certain talent level for this to be possible even if the opportunities are not there but this is very far from saying that it’s all dormant in the actor (in any precise sense). Because the right film or part constitutes a kind of event or a space where a certain expression becomes possible for the actor. Without that moment that expression isn’t possible. Put differently there has to be a potential in some general sense but this can as easily not get manifested.
2013′s most critically acclaimed film ‘The Lunchbox’ has emerged as the highest grossing Indian film at the US box office for films released in 2014. It has also made it to the Top 5 highest grossing Indian films of all time in the U.S. beating hugely successful films like Shahrukh Khan’s My Name Is Khan.
Grossing more than 4 million (and still counting), The Lunchbox is only behind films like Dhoom 3, Chennai Express and 3 Idiots.
Apart from the US, ‘The Lunchbox’ has recorded strong international collections, especially from European markets where it is still going strong in France, Germany, Sweden among other markets.
For its star cast and release size, The Lunchbox did very well in India too collecting around 28 crore net. The film was made on a budget of less than 10 crore.
Released in the US on February 28th, The Lunchbox has collected $4,064,041 (Rs 24.25 cr) so far.
yes it’s done hugely well. And this is what constitutes proper success for a somewhat offbeat or different or alternative film or whatever. Every film doesn’t have to reach this level but one cannot define everything that grosses Rs 5 to anything that puts up this kind of result as success! There has to be a minimal standard.
Much as at a more general matter one shouldn’t have this anxiety that everything one likes also ought to be liked at some general level and vice versa.
Holiday May Hit Century In Two Weeks – Fugly Flat
Sunday 15 June 2014 12.30 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
Holiday – A Soldier Is Never Off Duty continues to dominate the box office as it grossed around 6.25-6.50 crore on Saturday to take its second weekend total to 10.50 crore nett. If the film follows the trend of last week it may hit 20 crore nett in its second weekend which will give it a shot at 100 crore nett it two weeks.
Fugly is poor as it could not grow on Sunday with collections coming in the 2.25 crore nett range taking its business to 4.50 crore nett in two days.
Saturday growth is a must for these types and that too big growth and as Fugly showed no growth its likely the film will not go anywhere as far as its box office is concerned.
“Jai Ho is the biggest grosser of the year till date with 108 crore nett and Holiday – a Soldier Is Never Off Duty should beat that and get to the 110 crore nett mark. ”
Man, my prediction of approx 110-120 cr(wh)ore is nearly spot on!!
Wow…another fluke, yaiy…
To be honest, this was a tricky one–more than the likes of ETT, & now kick, PK…etc (which are relatively easy-peezy!)
due to the genre, akshays poor flop form etc
I had just the poor first day collections to base it on…
Btw there’s a sequence wherein akshay skims thru his childhood photos before embarking on his ‘surrender’–really liked that one
As I mentioned straightway after the viewing —
Full marx to murga
For giving akshay his best film after prabhudevas rowdy
As for sonakshi
She did a good job–her main job was that–
She kept on requesting to be ‘kissed’ thoughout the movie 🙂
Holiday is being celebrated for just getting to 100 or 110! Another sign of the crazy (or dishonest) times we live in. Sure the film has been stable. But it opened weak because of Akshay’s track record in recent years. And even with good WOM it hasn’t really jumped in a huge way. It’s just been very stable. This sort of thing is fine for either a much lesser star or a much less safe genre. But it’s a little absurd to celebrate Holiday for doing more or less what BMB or Barfi did or which tons of other films have been doing for years! Again it’s been more liked than many of the latter but one can’t suddenly make it all about trending when one was otherwise celebrating films that did 70-80% of their run in the first 5-7 days or something like that! Now in something like Singh is Bling Akshay should still open a lot bigger than this. Nonetheless the Holiday result though a welcome one for Akshay given the start it had and certainly proving that the film has been liked is hardly an optimal result all things considered.
You can definitely blame some of the poor opening to Akshay’s recent tarnish, BUT that is not the whole story. I think Holiday type of movies have reached a saturation point. In today’s environment even “Wanted” and “Dabang” would open with a slightly less enthusiasm (even if we assume all else to be equal”.
Holiday does not confirm Akshay’s decline, it just raises the suspicion that this genre is close to being done. A few years ago, Holiday would have done BB business even with a lesser star, today it needs the word of mouth to beef up it legs.
I don’t think I can agree. Holiday is going to do the same business as Jai Ho, more or less. The latter a film that was basically rejected. I do agree a saturation point is reached, specially when you have most films in the genre being very poor examples. But one of the problems also is that a star like Salman who can open much bigger in this genre is also less likely to do the Holiday kind of film, or a film that can really trend well. Meanwhile Akshay isn’t where he was some years ago (doesn’t mean he isn’t a major star, just that he’s had too many failures in between for the audience to show up blindly outside of a franchise film) and so the better which does trend well doesn’t open that big.
Now one could make an argument that if you leave aside franchises of some sort (sequels/remakes et al) and if you leave aside Salman (who in any case doesn’t do serious masala but masala-comedy in just about every instance.. Jai Ho wasn’t this and underperformed) you don’t really get huge openers. And even leaving this aside a film like SIngham that trended very well after a solid but not super start is relatively rare. This is an argument that I actually buy but most people who talk about masala refer to it in a very general sense without allowing for these distinctions. Otherwise for a long time I’ve felt that Ghajini’s performance has been singular. Not just in a pure box office sense with no film in any genre since matching its combination of opening and final gross, in each case relative to the prevalent standards at any point, and with the obvious exception of 3I, but specially within this larger genre of masala you just don’t have anything within striking distance. You don’t have this even in masala-comedy (though you do have some big totals here otherwise) but if you consider serious masala the gap is a massive one. Ghajini really remains the exception.
But leaving this aside I think a number of stars could generate the right initials in ‘credible’ masala. However to an extent this is a fantasy position because in Bollywood that situation will never quite be the case. Lastly I’d add that I’ve always felt that the return to masala in Bollywood principally by way of a Telugu variant (notice how Ghajini was a Tamil remake as is of course Holiday.. not that Tamil doesn’t offer junk masala but there is also more meaningful stuff on display here than is mostly the case in Telugu) is essentially about an ‘avoidance’ of masala. In other words it is pleasure without the cost. There is nothing cathartic about this ‘return’ (again Ghajini being a huge exception), it is simply a more rooted way of doing comedy and getting more of the audience involved. It also offers the chance to do item numbers consistently, get into remakes as a matter of course, and so on. It is a very superficial kind of thing. But multiplex audiences aren’t really looking for the real thing. Aamir’s prestige could still persuade people to check out a ‘story’ but Akshay cannot do the same.
You are making a few points. It is not as if I necessarily disagree with these points. My remark, in contrast was very lean. I think if Holiday had been a 200 type movie, we could have looked at the results and claimed that inspite of a tired genre, it was Akshay’s star power that made the rain happen.
But sadly the rain did not occur. I assign most of this fault to the fact this genre is now suffering from overexposure. The genre in the case of Holiday is the Mark Furhman, it allows a free go past jail card to Akshay.
The point that Akshay is in a de-acceleration mode can be made in many ways, but it would not be efficient to use Holiday to make this point.
Jai Ho, should have bombed. It was a bad movie in addition to all the other issues we said about Holiday. In an ideal world, Holiday should have done slightly better than Jai Ho, but Jai Ho’s BO was helped by the presence of Salman in an acceleration mode (or at the peak of his stardom).
Salman in Holiday would have been better at the BO. On the other hand Akshay in Jai Ho would have been another Joker/TMK.
agreed on most of this.. not saying Holiday was a 200 kind of film. In fact my point precisely is that other than Ghajini I haven’t seen a serious masala film in that range (adjusting for inflation and so forth and relative to the film’s stratospheric initial and final gross relative to what every other film was doing at the time.. because I expect some bozo to pop up and say Ghajini did 115, not 200). But in a stronger phase Akshay would easily have got this to 150. Rowdy made it to 120 or more (can’t remember exactly) and even then he wasn’t in his absolute strongest phase. It’s also the case though that Holiday was hardly the most well-publicized film so some of the lower initial can be chalked up to this.
I’d say though, and based on some of the points made here, that people are misreading what I’ve said (barring Z who like most SRK fans of bad faith tries to talk about Aamir leaving aside all the contexts for Talaash and then when someone questions SRK’s major stuff promptly moves on to Abhishek, with I might add his father as the real target.. it’s a bit like Israel saying they’re the only democracy in the Mideast but when questioned for human rights abuses or whatever immediately say they’re better than Saudi Arabia! so if you claim SRK is a top star he should be living upto some of these benchmarks, you can’t question Aamir at one end and then move to Abhishek at the other! not that Z’s bad faith is restricted just to this..). My point isn’t that Holiday hasn’t done well. It of course has. But a 100-110 crore result or even a bit more cannot be considered the optimal one for this film even considering all possible factors. Because when films like Barfi or BMB get to a 100 what this shows is that given the wider appeal of a genre/film like Holiday you’re actually appealing to a smaller cross-section of your potential audience whereas BMB for instance is possibly close to maximizing its base. Now a stronger star could get a lot more out of Holiday but it’s hard to argue that anyone could get 150 out of Barfi! And here the Talaash point should be introduced again. Yes and specially for Aamir the film could have trended better. If the argument is about whether the film could have done 10-20% better I’d concede the point. But given the kind of film that it was no one could have gotten more out of it. Aamir still got it the biggest initial possible. But it was simply too dark a film to do more than this even if many pretend to be too dense (scarily some actually are so!) to see this. And this isn’t a point I made just for this film. It’s one I’ve made consistently for years. There simply is no truly dark film, which is to say one that questions the values of ‘new India’, that does very well. There simply isn’t, even at the lower end of the spectrum. So for instance GoW doesn’t upset anyone within this audience whether they actually show up for the film or not. Talaash or MP or DMD or Raavan or Dhobi Ghaat are much more disturbing films for this audience than any RGV effort or any Kashyap film. But I won’t get into all the reasons once again. But yes a bigger star will all else being equal still get the film to the biggest possible total. hence Aamir got Talaash and DG to the best possible totals. even in Hollywood a film like Talaash simply isn’t blockbuster material and is more the sort of thing that with good reviews can open decently or better and stay stable over time.
Finally my other point was about the dishonesty of Taran and BOI and others who after arguing the opposite for many films are suddenly pretending it’s all about trending. And who are further into this game of how very few films make 100. As if doing so in 2008 and 2014 are exactly the same!
I guess if most people agree the genre has reached saturation point then
1)Why do people invest in making these films (STILL)
2)Why do actors choose them (STILL)
3)Why are big prices paid for them (STILL)
Because making some money and keeping oneself gainfully employed beats sitting at home and doing nothing. The audience have the luxury of being record keepers whereas those in the trade have to should the burden of survival.
Meanwhile Edge of Tomorrow has held up pretty well. It’s dropped just 44% and ended up at 56m. But that number is otherwise too low and the film will have to be extremely stable from this point on just to clear 100. Once again the sign of a weaker star. Even with strong reviews people aren’t really coming in. I do have to see this. Haven’t had the chance so far and now things are a bit more difficult with the World Cup on.
“Holiday is being celebrated for just getting to 100 or 110! Another sign of the crazy (or dishonest) times we live in.”
Haha I’m enjoying this ‘discomfiture’. This is what happens when ‘theories’ come round to bite one.
Now lemme introduce the comparison with the overcelebrated (here) talaash.. (I actually loved Aamirs role in that but not the box office of that film!)
Aamir was coming off the all time blockbuster biggest hit ever 3I , after a long break of three years
Unlike the ‘lowly’ akshay coming off many flops the biggest of which was ouatim2 with the same sonakshi and the megastar Imran khan (whose career has thankfully been grounded by ouatmi2 much to the annoyance of innocent chicks like Amy lol)
Talaash had a domesticated (but surprisingly attractive) rani who is a big star (& who gave a masterclass of how to expose even in a sari!)
And the ‘prostitute’ Kareena in her most ‘user friendly’ role yet (lol)
Still talaash tottered to a lowly 80 crores odd and we were supposed to applaud its performance!!
Now it’s perhaps equivalent in terms of inflation etc but
With a better total and
MUCH superior TRENDING than D3 & talaash combined
The lowly holiday is a ‘slap’ for those who felt only aamir can trend!
Without any ‘exposure’ or ‘making out’
And not even a godamm kiss (unlike Kaam leela)–much to the chagrin of poor sonakshi:-)
actually the trending idea has rather come to bite you. You might have missed my comment in the previous thread but after claiming exactly the opposite for the longest time, and how the total mattered and nothing else, you’ve suddenly made a U-turn here!
On Talaash perhaps you stole 10 crores from its final total? And yeah Holiday and Talaash are completely comparable as genres. But if one plays that game I’m not sure why Holiday is anything less than a dismal performance since a 3 hr BMB with Farhan Akhtar did a 100!
But yeah expecting a rational debate from you on this or anything might be a bit like expecting Pepe to behave! Sorry I have today’s match on my mind!
By this logic all of Abhi films are super flop, i guess you don’t need that logic since he has many super flops anyway. using this same logic, what does it mean for talaash, i hope you don’t think farhan akhter has same star appeal as aamir/rani/kareena…
You can’t keep comparing apple to oranges. sometime you have to compare apple to apple.
Every movie is unique and there are many factors involved.
A movie opening with no competition for 3 weeks is different from a movie which has to face new big movie every week.
A movie with actor in it riding high on success is different from the one which has main actor who is going thru low phase.
There are many many more factors involved.
Personally i don’t think what holiday has collected so far is anything great but consedering all factors, it’s doing okay.
you might want to either get English courses or read my response again.. your entire response here would have been unnecessary.. though when a SRK fan sees some of his star’s major releases scraping to a 100 perhaps he (or she) has a vested interest in this kind of argument. let’s talk about Don2 and JTHJ and many others.. we’ll get to Talaash soon enough! And I promise not to bring up Ra One..
send me the bill for your glass-house.. didn’t quite mean to shatter it..
This will be my last word on this subject till you show me you can read better.
Can you talk about any of the bachhans movies doing business of Don2, JTHJ, and i’ll throw in Ra One too…
LOL about glass house. nevermind shatter, you glass house has been destroyed completly time and again by Abhis failure and to top it off SRK is still there where he was 15 years ago, in top 3, you can put him at 3 if you like.
And, no, don’t send me the bill, it’s your house, your problem 🙂
Funny how you have to bring up SRK in everything, nothing has changed, your life revolves around SRK, period…
There is no denying that Holiday’s box office is hardly earth shattering. However, it has performed reasonably well with a star on a weak run lately and within a genre that has delivered only underperformers during the last 2 years. BOI say it may get to 100cr after 2 weeks run. So, it may probably gross around 20cr more to end up at around the 120cr mark.
It’s nothing like D3 territory. But at around 120cr, Holiday still is going to be the 12th or 13th biggest grosser of the recent times. A solid, universal hit finally.
At times good flicks make only end up with reasonable runs while shit movies end up doing better. Special Chabbis grossed as much as Khiladi 786 but I would take S26 over most other flicks of last year while K786 probably ranks as one the worst flicks I have had to endure. We talk a lot about Talaash’s underperformance here but there is no denying that it was undermined by the fact that it belonged to a genre that didn’t have universal appeal.
And when you look at how masala movies have been doing during the last 2 years, I don’t think anyone can claim that it’s the safest bet these days. Which is why I feel that Holiday’s BO is commendable really.
Holiday is a film which will have done 150 crore (my original prediction) if not for the sub standard Day 1 which can be attributed to Akshay Kumars falling presence at the BO. With a Hritik or a Salman this was 200 cr + material. The movie is not your average Masala fare but quite a gripping and interesting action movie.
No film with anti terrorist theme was a hit in the past two decardes.The last film which was a success was Aamir Khan’s sarfarosh which was just above average.These kind of films dont do well.Akshay made Holiday a hit.
Sunil: you raise an interesting point, perhaps because the terrorist is simply the latest cinematic manifestation of the figure of the outlaw (and bourgeois audiences have long had a fascination for criminality, a point Hannah Arendt made decades ago in “The Origins of Totalitarianism”); to be “on the side of the State” is where the bourgeoisie finds itself in “real life” (often unthinkingly so, with depressing regularity), but perhaps it prefers to dream of criminals (the dream of criminals is a dream of freedom, of a freedom that existed before the modern State; we discern echoes of the folk love for figures like Robin Hood or Papadu here), it makes waking life easier for all of us. But there are other, equally powerful, dreams too, for instance where a hyper-potent state goes around exterminating criminals/terrorists — the 1990s had a number of these, but films like Kaaka Kaaka and Singham fall into this — and these are, I would suggest, the stuff of fascism: where what one dreams about is not the “other” of waking life/politics, but its hyper-intensification (to the point where no obstacles stand in the way of ideological fulfilment: in the romantic narrative, removal of obstacles is not the point, because the romance lies in conflict and failure; in the totalitarian narrative, the point is the removal of every last obstacle, and the fantasy is of a cleansing — just consider the difference between Deewar and Inquilab)… There have been enough successful films in this genre (think of Sunny Deol’s later films; Singham) that one can hardly deem Holiday to have climbed a huge mountain here. Stated differently, I would argue that your astute point bears on the figure of the hero (the Devgan of Singham is not a romantic figure; whereas the outlaw can be), but not on box-office receipts.
Thats a good comment qalander.The films with the big stars since last fifteen years have never shown terroists,particularly islamic terroists as villains.There’s always a sympathy of terrorists.mhn is obviously made to counter gadar type of films.
But these films never have done well even since early 1990s.The khans becoming superstars might be a major reason.But there could be other reasons as well.Shahrukh khan has always made films which attack these type of films.and he atatcks manoj Kumar for these reasons.Manoj Kumar’s patriotic genre is well known.Bollywood audiences think these types of films are morally wrong.Although no religion is offended.
Also sunny deol has done some bad films after Indian and soon faded out.The public waited for wom for Holiday.And Holiday is a good films.Alshay’s rr grossed has already outgrossed ghajini anyway.A regular action film will do much better.
In the south,these films are seen as regular action films.They open well,and do well.But its a different thing ion hindi alltogether.The reason holiday is an important success is because it grossed 120cr and a is a hit this has crossed even jai ho,a salman khan film which came when he was in good form.Akshay brought back the patriotic genre back.
“Akshay will get his biggest hit soon”
Maybe, but I don’t think this means much today as it did in 2008. His biggest hit today or even biggest grosser would be RR at 130 crores. Beating that would put his film at 50% of the total collections of D3.
When Hrithiks batted out a 180 crore, SRK a 205 crore, Salman a 185 crore, Ranbir a 180 crore odd, Akshay is not in this league. With Happy New Year, Kick, Bang Bang and Peekay to arrive, one can only see that gap widening.
In 2008 you could say he was closer with SIK at 70 crores and RNBDJ at 80 crores and Ghajini at 115 crores.
Simply Akshay Kumar is not the kind of star to belt out big massive grossers. He doesn’t have that script selection or fandom to get that level of reception. What is commendable is he works hard, knocks out 2-4 films a year well into his 40’s and in his best days in 06-08 strung 5-6 hits out of 9 films and 2012 had RR, Housefull2 and OMG. In between he has had many failures. He keeps going but the gap between him and the top 5 is now wider than in 2008.
When he hits one out of the park wake me up Sunil. As you’ve been banging on about Akshay Kumar for years now, according to you he has many hits, and not many flops, other stars have many flop and not many hits, he is now a trend setter for patriotic films yet his films barely scrape the barrel in terms of total collections when compared with the top stars. Am I missing something?
I think jay shah hasnt understood that Holiday is a non holiday release.Akshay has the biggest non holiday grossers among the top league stars.When Aamir Khan couldnt take talaash to 100cr.Shahrukh Khan doesnt have a non holiday release sicne mnik.Hrithik’s biggest non holiday grosser is znmd.Akshay is ahead of all of them.If you quote Ranbir kapoor’s yjyd,a non holiday reease then you have to agree that Ranbir is bigger than Khans,Hrithik.
ce is massively overreported though,with srk buying tickets.The real net is only 175cr.ouatim 2 got only half the screens as ce which is in second week.
haha.I said bollywood audiences doesnt like anti terroist film.new york isnt a hit at 45cr.Although yrf inflates numbers.Holiday isnt a normal action film.Akshay will get his biggest hit soon.
NY isn’t a hit at 45-50 crores all those years ago with Neil Mukesh and John Abraham in the lead while all these years later Holiday with Akshay is one no questions asked?
I think new york dioesnt have irfan khan as hero.!It has other smaller stars as alleged terrorists.That isnt even a comparision.
mhn is about a Indian hindu terrorist.Holiday at 120cr has done well.
It might have done better,but this is a good hit.
Actor Abhishek Bachchan today made a courtesy call on Rajasthan Chief Minister Vasundhara Raje at the state secretariat here, a CMO spokesman said.
Abhishek Bachchan discussed matters related to the International Kabaddi League with the Chief Minister, the spokesman said.
Chairman of International Kabaddi Federation Janardan Singh was also present during the meeting.
While coming out of the Chief Minister’s Office, Abhishek Bachchan told reporters that the Chief Minister showed enthusiasm over the Kabaddi league.
Quoting the Bollywood actor, the spokesman said Raje was confident and had strong vision on sports.
However, it was not yet clear whether the Kabaddi league would be held in Rajasthan or not.
This is why I think. Salman is the people’s hero. Whereas a lot of other stars/super stars would have been kind of polite (in their response), Salman was in your face rude. I am not in favor of such rudeness, I believe that there needs to be some protocols, but the average person laps this up.
idiot reporters do need to be put in their place, especially the media in India. sallu gives interviews all the damn time on several topics. THIS specific time was for a film promotion. why the hell would anyone bring up random stuff? especially about someone else personal matter?
i honestly don’t think sallu or anyone else for that matter needs to speak up publicly about preity and her molestation charge on her ex. maybe privately they can support her and be there for her, but really no need to support her publicly or even comment on it.
Aamir Khan’s teenage daughter Ira will host a celebrity football match on June 20. Our source says the star-beti, who got amazing grades in her final year at school, has managed to get several superstars, including Sachin Tendulkar, Hrithik Roshan, Abhishek Bachchan and Tiger Shroff on her own accord for the tournament.
BOI have it at around 91cr for the same period. I guess that it will wrap up at around 120cr as per Taran and at around 115cr as per BOI. Solid hit, no doubt about that. But could have done better and maybe deserved better.
Thanks apex,when ghajini released satyam said this is a genre which is not a hit in last two decades.Although There was a blockbuster mohra.Even Holiday is a genre which is not a hit since last two decades.
qalander,you should not go by boi.Karan Arjun had lesser ticket sales than Mohra.Mohra was released in june 1994,and hahk two months later.After two weeks,ticket prices were increased by 240%.
Mohra had a big opening, the biggest of the year I think (because HAHK was just screened in one or two Bombay theaters at the beginning!). In terms of gross it was decent after that opening, nothing spectacular. Was still the year’s biggest grosser after HAHK (huge gulf here obviously) but that’s not saying much given that there wasn’t another serious grosser that year. Krantiveer might have been next on the list. In any case suspense thrillers of this sort, even with masala added, never trend too strongly in Hindi cinema. So a successful film without doubt but I wouldn’t call it a super-hit let alone a blockbuster. another way of doing it is if you examine super hits from just the year before or the year after you’ll see significantly bigger grosses at that top 5 level. Aankhen for example in 1993. Mohra had the Khalnayak run. A big initial with decent follow-through. Obviously a more successful film than Khalnayak in terms of expectations and profitability. Some films get big grosses because of the initials but a true super-hit shows a minimal trending. Simply being decent means the gross is mostly about the initial. Of course those films trended superbly by today’s bankrupt standards but that’s another matter.
Of course (and this is for Sunil) but the initial was largely due to a popular song and of course Rajiv Rai who was still significant at the time. Akshay’s career didn’t really take off despite this film.
Mohra at 13cr and maine pyar kiya at 14cr with same ticket prices.People who dont know how older films grossed will make these arguments.Satyam should ask yakuza about these things.
For many bo starts from Lagaan.
MPK released something like 5 years before Mohra. You should also check out what the inflation adjusted grosses would be! Not to mention this was a film with newcomers, the Barjatyas hadn’t done anything significant for years, this film then proved to be a huge success. You say ridiculous stuff. Don’t know why. Why not simply compare it to Aankhen that just a year before made a lot more?! And this was a true super hit/blockbuster. By the way I think there was a much more significant gap between Mohra and MPK in favor of the latter. I’d say Mohra was probably 5 crores or so behind MPK in absolute terms. Anyway not sure why I’m even bothering. You’ll follow this up with something more outrageous.
I think that the unanimous verdict of that time from Taran (Trade Guide) and Nahta (Film Information) was that MPK, Ankhein and HAHK were blockbusters while Mohra was a superhit. Taran was usually using the term ‘historical superhit’ for those blockbusters.
I still don’t know how 20 years afterwards BOI and IBOS are coming up with totals for all these movies when at that time only those 2 BO sources existed and even they were only reporting certain numbers from a limited number of theatres from the main centres and % occupancy was the main indicator of how a movie was doing.
So, 20 or 30 years on, BOI and IBOS have been able to track all the numbers from all those B and C Centres when so many of those theatres have probably already closed down while at the time of release even the producers were allegedly finding it hard to do it?
My take on it: take those totals with a pinch of salt instead of them being the gospel truth. These are most probably nothing more than mere estimates and anyone can come up with his own.
MPK, Ankhein and HAHK (along with Raja Hindustani and Kuch Kuch Hota Hai and DDLJ) are All Time Blockbusters as far as I can remember.
Let Sunil have his day…otherwise he’ll be saying Blue or Tashan is a superhit soon…
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June 13, 2014 at 7:34 AM
taran adarsh @taran_adarsh · 2h
#Holiday Fri 12.08 cr, Sat 12.46 cr, Sun 16.85 cr, Mon 8.11 cr, Tue 7.10 cr, Wed 6.31 cr, Thu 5.74 cr. Total: ₹ 68.63 cr nett. India biz.
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June 13, 2014 at 7:35 AM
Holiday – A Soldier Is Never Off Duty Has Good First Week
Friday 13 June 2014 11.30 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
Holiday – A Soldier Is Never Off Duty did well in its first as it grossed around 65.75 crore nett. The weekend was not quite up to the mark due to the opening being lacklustre but the film trended very well in the weekdays to come out with a good first week.
The second week should hold well and should be the highest second week of the year beating the figures of 2 States and Jai Ho which were 25 crore nett approx and 21.50 crore nett approx respectively.
The third week should see the film cross 100 crore nett which is not really a big deal today for big star films like Holiday – A Soldier Is Never Off Duty but as it did not open too well then the 100 crore mark becomes a bigger achievement than it would otherwise. In one or two circuits the film may well go on and be the highest Akshay Kumar grossing film ever. Holiday – A Soldier Is Never Off Duty has done good or at least decent business in all circuits across India in its first week.
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June 13, 2014 at 7:36 AM
Fugly Hoping To Go The Fukrey Way
Thursday 12 June 2014 11.30 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
Fugly will be hoping to go the Fukrey way which released exactly a year ago and was a similar film with a new cast. The other releases of the week stand little chance.
Holiday – a Soldier Is Never Off Duty will be providing big competition for Fugly and will be the first choice this weekend. Fukrey last year emerged a surprise hit starting with a 2.50 crore nett first day, it picked up pretty well over the weekend but came into its own in the weekdays and week two to emerge with a final total of just under 35 crore nett.
Fugly will be hoping of similar or more lifetime business though it will have to open better than Fukrey as the flow of releases is stronger this year and content will have to be very strong for it to have a run like Fukrey.
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June 13, 2014 at 7:34 AM
taran adarsh @taran_adarsh · 4h
#Filmistaan Fri 51 lacs, Sat 1.04 cr, Sun 1.26 cr, Mon 54 lacs, Tue 56 lacs, Wed 51 lacs, Thu 49 lacs. Total: ₹ 4.91 cr nett. India biz.
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June 13, 2014 at 9:28 AM
BANG BANG : Out on 2nd October
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June 13, 2014 at 10:05 AM
Like the background music. This movie will do well.
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June 13, 2014 at 3:36 PM
In response to the amusing question above—
ALL answers will be given –but have the courage to NOT hide behind multiple layered moderation !!! (Moderation of posted comments is fine but this is beibg done Even before posting comments) 🙂
‘Contexts’ are important but sometimes numbers are so OVER/UNDERwhelming that all such contexts are
RIPPED APART :!!!
Reminds me of a sequence from holiday that all masala lovers should see –(SHAME on those who ‘masala’rant but don’t support such stuff!)
Akshay is surrounded on a boat by armed guards , (he ‘surrendered’ himself due threat to ‘innocent civilians’!)
Still
Satyam and his guards/cronies are scared of untying his hands–
Because they are aware of the B(G)ANG BANG that will follow hahahaha
THIS is a ‘trailer’like answer to the above question !! 🙂
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June 13, 2014 at 3:56 PM
“In response to the amusing question above”
still waiting for the response..!
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June 13, 2014 at 10:13 PM
WT……is this???
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June 14, 2014 at 7:33 AM
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June 14, 2014 at 7:34 AM
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June 14, 2014 at 7:56 AM
taran adarsh @taran_adarsh · 2h
#Fugly Fri ₹ 2.95 cr nett. India biz.
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June 14, 2014 at 7:56 AM
taran adarsh @taran_adarsh · 4h
#Holiday [Week 2] Fri 4.34 cr. Grand total: ₹ 73.03 cr nett. India biz. Very Good!
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June 14, 2014 at 7:57 AM
Holiday Set To Be Top Grosser Of 2014
Saturday 14 June 2014 12.30 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
Holiday – A Soldier Is Never Off Duty is set to be the top grosser of the year till date as it maintained steady collections on its eighth day. The day eight collections were around the 4 crore nett mark.
The eighth day collections are the best of the year and that second weekend and second week will also follow that trend. The film will easily go over 15 crore nett (possibly even to 17-18 crore) for the weekend as Saturday and Sunday will show big growth.
Jai Ho is the biggest grosser of the year till date with 108 crore nett and Holiday – a Soldier Is Never Off Duty should beat that and get to the 110 crore nett mark. The film will show a drop from week three onwards due to the flow of big releases but as the film is established now it will still get the screenings to do decent business from week three onwards and take it towards that 110 crore nett total.
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June 14, 2014 at 1:42 PM
Finally checked out Dallas Buyers Club. Didn’t expect to like it very much but I must say that McConaughey’s performance really held it together and made the film far more interesting than it otherwise would have been. He’s really (and improbably) metamorphosed into not just a fine acting talent (maybe he never got the chance earlier) but equally a charismatic star performer and far more of one in this sense than he was even when he was doing those very commercial parts all those years ago. But this also confirms a long-standing thesis of mine. The part or a moment (re)makes the star-actor. It might be that the latter never gets such a moment or not enough times but that’s a different debate. Of course there has to be a certain talent level for this to be possible even if the opportunities are not there but this is very far from saying that it’s all dormant in the actor (in any precise sense). Because the right film or part constitutes a kind of event or a space where a certain expression becomes possible for the actor. Without that moment that expression isn’t possible. Put differently there has to be a potential in some general sense but this can as easily not get manifested.
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June 15, 2014 at 2:04 AM
He has been doing good stuff.
Saw “Her” and liked it very much. Joaquin Phoenix was topnotch.
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June 15, 2014 at 8:45 AM
haven’t seen this one yet.
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June 14, 2014 at 10:52 PM
2013′s most critically acclaimed film ‘The Lunchbox’ has emerged as the highest grossing Indian film at the US box office for films released in 2014. It has also made it to the Top 5 highest grossing Indian films of all time in the U.S. beating hugely successful films like Shahrukh Khan’s My Name Is Khan.
Grossing more than 4 million (and still counting), The Lunchbox is only behind films like Dhoom 3, Chennai Express and 3 Idiots.
Apart from the US, ‘The Lunchbox’ has recorded strong international collections, especially from European markets where it is still going strong in France, Germany, Sweden among other markets.
For its star cast and release size, The Lunchbox did very well in India too collecting around 28 crore net. The film was made on a budget of less than 10 crore.
Released in the US on February 28th, The Lunchbox has collected $4,064,041 (Rs 24.25 cr) so far.
http://www.indicine.com/movies/bollywood/the-lunchbox-beats-my-name-is-khan-enters-top-5-at-us-box-office/
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June 15, 2014 at 8:03 AM
yes it’s done hugely well. And this is what constitutes proper success for a somewhat offbeat or different or alternative film or whatever. Every film doesn’t have to reach this level but one cannot define everything that grosses Rs 5 to anything that puts up this kind of result as success! There has to be a minimal standard.
Much as at a more general matter one shouldn’t have this anxiety that everything one likes also ought to be liked at some general level and vice versa.
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June 15, 2014 at 9:52 AM
aran adarsh @taran_adarsh · 6h
#Holiday [Week 2] Fri 4.34 cr, Sat 6.06 cr. Grand total: ₹ 79.09 cr nett. India biz. Marching towards ₹ 100 cr.
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June 15, 2014 at 9:52 AM
Holiday May Hit Century In Two Weeks – Fugly Flat
Sunday 15 June 2014 12.30 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
Holiday – A Soldier Is Never Off Duty continues to dominate the box office as it grossed around 6.25-6.50 crore on Saturday to take its second weekend total to 10.50 crore nett. If the film follows the trend of last week it may hit 20 crore nett in its second weekend which will give it a shot at 100 crore nett it two weeks.
Fugly is poor as it could not grow on Sunday with collections coming in the 2.25 crore nett range taking its business to 4.50 crore nett in two days.
Saturday growth is a must for these types and that too big growth and as Fugly showed no growth its likely the film will not go anywhere as far as its box office is concerned.
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June 15, 2014 at 2:59 PM
“Jai Ho is the biggest grosser of the year till date with 108 crore nett and Holiday – a Soldier Is Never Off Duty should beat that and get to the 110 crore nett mark. ”
Man, my prediction of approx 110-120 cr(wh)ore is nearly spot on!!
Wow…another fluke, yaiy…
To be honest, this was a tricky one–more than the likes of ETT, & now kick, PK…etc (which are relatively easy-peezy!)
due to the genre, akshays poor flop form etc
I had just the poor first day collections to base it on…
Btw there’s a sequence wherein akshay skims thru his childhood photos before embarking on his ‘surrender’–really liked that one
As I mentioned straightway after the viewing —
Full marx to murga
For giving akshay his best film after prabhudevas rowdy
As for sonakshi
She did a good job–her main job was that–
She kept on requesting to be ‘kissed’ thoughout the movie 🙂
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June 16, 2014 at 1:01 PM
taran adarsh @taran_adarsh · 9h
#Holiday [Week 2; revised figures] Fri 4.36 cr, Sat 6.31 cr, Sun 8.70 cr. Grand total: ₹ 88.05 cr nett. India biz. Excellent!
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June 16, 2014 at 1:06 PM
Holiday is being celebrated for just getting to 100 or 110! Another sign of the crazy (or dishonest) times we live in. Sure the film has been stable. But it opened weak because of Akshay’s track record in recent years. And even with good WOM it hasn’t really jumped in a huge way. It’s just been very stable. This sort of thing is fine for either a much lesser star or a much less safe genre. But it’s a little absurd to celebrate Holiday for doing more or less what BMB or Barfi did or which tons of other films have been doing for years! Again it’s been more liked than many of the latter but one can’t suddenly make it all about trending when one was otherwise celebrating films that did 70-80% of their run in the first 5-7 days or something like that! Now in something like Singh is Bling Akshay should still open a lot bigger than this. Nonetheless the Holiday result though a welcome one for Akshay given the start it had and certainly proving that the film has been liked is hardly an optimal result all things considered.
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June 16, 2014 at 10:49 PM
You can definitely blame some of the poor opening to Akshay’s recent tarnish, BUT that is not the whole story. I think Holiday type of movies have reached a saturation point. In today’s environment even “Wanted” and “Dabang” would open with a slightly less enthusiasm (even if we assume all else to be equal”.
Holiday does not confirm Akshay’s decline, it just raises the suspicion that this genre is close to being done. A few years ago, Holiday would have done BB business even with a lesser star, today it needs the word of mouth to beef up it legs.
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June 17, 2014 at 6:47 AM
I don’t think I can agree. Holiday is going to do the same business as Jai Ho, more or less. The latter a film that was basically rejected. I do agree a saturation point is reached, specially when you have most films in the genre being very poor examples. But one of the problems also is that a star like Salman who can open much bigger in this genre is also less likely to do the Holiday kind of film, or a film that can really trend well. Meanwhile Akshay isn’t where he was some years ago (doesn’t mean he isn’t a major star, just that he’s had too many failures in between for the audience to show up blindly outside of a franchise film) and so the better which does trend well doesn’t open that big.
Now one could make an argument that if you leave aside franchises of some sort (sequels/remakes et al) and if you leave aside Salman (who in any case doesn’t do serious masala but masala-comedy in just about every instance.. Jai Ho wasn’t this and underperformed) you don’t really get huge openers. And even leaving this aside a film like SIngham that trended very well after a solid but not super start is relatively rare. This is an argument that I actually buy but most people who talk about masala refer to it in a very general sense without allowing for these distinctions. Otherwise for a long time I’ve felt that Ghajini’s performance has been singular. Not just in a pure box office sense with no film in any genre since matching its combination of opening and final gross, in each case relative to the prevalent standards at any point, and with the obvious exception of 3I, but specially within this larger genre of masala you just don’t have anything within striking distance. You don’t have this even in masala-comedy (though you do have some big totals here otherwise) but if you consider serious masala the gap is a massive one. Ghajini really remains the exception.
But leaving this aside I think a number of stars could generate the right initials in ‘credible’ masala. However to an extent this is a fantasy position because in Bollywood that situation will never quite be the case. Lastly I’d add that I’ve always felt that the return to masala in Bollywood principally by way of a Telugu variant (notice how Ghajini was a Tamil remake as is of course Holiday.. not that Tamil doesn’t offer junk masala but there is also more meaningful stuff on display here than is mostly the case in Telugu) is essentially about an ‘avoidance’ of masala. In other words it is pleasure without the cost. There is nothing cathartic about this ‘return’ (again Ghajini being a huge exception), it is simply a more rooted way of doing comedy and getting more of the audience involved. It also offers the chance to do item numbers consistently, get into remakes as a matter of course, and so on. It is a very superficial kind of thing. But multiplex audiences aren’t really looking for the real thing. Aamir’s prestige could still persuade people to check out a ‘story’ but Akshay cannot do the same.
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June 17, 2014 at 8:57 AM
You are making a few points. It is not as if I necessarily disagree with these points. My remark, in contrast was very lean. I think if Holiday had been a 200 type movie, we could have looked at the results and claimed that inspite of a tired genre, it was Akshay’s star power that made the rain happen.
But sadly the rain did not occur. I assign most of this fault to the fact this genre is now suffering from overexposure. The genre in the case of Holiday is the Mark Furhman, it allows a free go past jail card to Akshay.
The point that Akshay is in a de-acceleration mode can be made in many ways, but it would not be efficient to use Holiday to make this point.
Jai Ho, should have bombed. It was a bad movie in addition to all the other issues we said about Holiday. In an ideal world, Holiday should have done slightly better than Jai Ho, but Jai Ho’s BO was helped by the presence of Salman in an acceleration mode (or at the peak of his stardom).
Salman in Holiday would have been better at the BO. On the other hand Akshay in Jai Ho would have been another Joker/TMK.
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June 17, 2014 at 9:16 AM
agreed on most of this.. not saying Holiday was a 200 kind of film. In fact my point precisely is that other than Ghajini I haven’t seen a serious masala film in that range (adjusting for inflation and so forth and relative to the film’s stratospheric initial and final gross relative to what every other film was doing at the time.. because I expect some bozo to pop up and say Ghajini did 115, not 200). But in a stronger phase Akshay would easily have got this to 150. Rowdy made it to 120 or more (can’t remember exactly) and even then he wasn’t in his absolute strongest phase. It’s also the case though that Holiday was hardly the most well-publicized film so some of the lower initial can be chalked up to this.
I’d say though, and based on some of the points made here, that people are misreading what I’ve said (barring Z who like most SRK fans of bad faith tries to talk about Aamir leaving aside all the contexts for Talaash and then when someone questions SRK’s major stuff promptly moves on to Abhishek, with I might add his father as the real target.. it’s a bit like Israel saying they’re the only democracy in the Mideast but when questioned for human rights abuses or whatever immediately say they’re better than Saudi Arabia! so if you claim SRK is a top star he should be living upto some of these benchmarks, you can’t question Aamir at one end and then move to Abhishek at the other! not that Z’s bad faith is restricted just to this..). My point isn’t that Holiday hasn’t done well. It of course has. But a 100-110 crore result or even a bit more cannot be considered the optimal one for this film even considering all possible factors. Because when films like Barfi or BMB get to a 100 what this shows is that given the wider appeal of a genre/film like Holiday you’re actually appealing to a smaller cross-section of your potential audience whereas BMB for instance is possibly close to maximizing its base. Now a stronger star could get a lot more out of Holiday but it’s hard to argue that anyone could get 150 out of Barfi! And here the Talaash point should be introduced again. Yes and specially for Aamir the film could have trended better. If the argument is about whether the film could have done 10-20% better I’d concede the point. But given the kind of film that it was no one could have gotten more out of it. Aamir still got it the biggest initial possible. But it was simply too dark a film to do more than this even if many pretend to be too dense (scarily some actually are so!) to see this. And this isn’t a point I made just for this film. It’s one I’ve made consistently for years. There simply is no truly dark film, which is to say one that questions the values of ‘new India’, that does very well. There simply isn’t, even at the lower end of the spectrum. So for instance GoW doesn’t upset anyone within this audience whether they actually show up for the film or not. Talaash or MP or DMD or Raavan or Dhobi Ghaat are much more disturbing films for this audience than any RGV effort or any Kashyap film. But I won’t get into all the reasons once again. But yes a bigger star will all else being equal still get the film to the biggest possible total. hence Aamir got Talaash and DG to the best possible totals. even in Hollywood a film like Talaash simply isn’t blockbuster material and is more the sort of thing that with good reviews can open decently or better and stay stable over time.
Finally my other point was about the dishonesty of Taran and BOI and others who after arguing the opposite for many films are suddenly pretending it’s all about trending. And who are further into this game of how very few films make 100. As if doing so in 2008 and 2014 are exactly the same!
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June 17, 2014 at 7:24 AM
I guess if most people agree the genre has reached saturation point then
1)Why do people invest in making these films (STILL)
2)Why do actors choose them (STILL)
3)Why are big prices paid for them (STILL)
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June 17, 2014 at 9:00 AM
Because making some money and keeping oneself gainfully employed beats sitting at home and doing nothing. The audience have the luxury of being record keepers whereas those in the trade have to should the burden of survival.
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June 17, 2014 at 9:02 AM
*shoulder the burden of survival
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June 16, 2014 at 1:18 PM
Meanwhile Edge of Tomorrow has held up pretty well. It’s dropped just 44% and ended up at 56m. But that number is otherwise too low and the film will have to be extremely stable from this point on just to clear 100. Once again the sign of a weaker star. Even with strong reviews people aren’t really coming in. I do have to see this. Haven’t had the chance so far and now things are a bit more difficult with the World Cup on.
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June 16, 2014 at 3:01 PM
“Holiday is being celebrated for just getting to 100 or 110! Another sign of the crazy (or dishonest) times we live in.”
Haha I’m enjoying this ‘discomfiture’. This is what happens when ‘theories’ come round to bite one.
Now lemme introduce the comparison with the overcelebrated (here) talaash.. (I actually loved Aamirs role in that but not the box office of that film!)
Aamir was coming off the all time blockbuster biggest hit ever 3I , after a long break of three years
Unlike the ‘lowly’ akshay coming off many flops the biggest of which was ouatim2 with the same sonakshi and the megastar Imran khan (whose career has thankfully been grounded by ouatmi2 much to the annoyance of innocent chicks like Amy lol)
Talaash had a domesticated (but surprisingly attractive) rani who is a big star (& who gave a masterclass of how to expose even in a sari!)
And the ‘prostitute’ Kareena in her most ‘user friendly’ role yet (lol)
Still talaash tottered to a lowly 80 crores odd and we were supposed to applaud its performance!!
Now it’s perhaps equivalent in terms of inflation etc but
With a better total and
MUCH superior TRENDING than D3 & talaash combined
The lowly holiday is a ‘slap’ for those who felt only aamir can trend!
Without any ‘exposure’ or ‘making out’
And not even a godamm kiss (unlike Kaam leela)–much to the chagrin of poor sonakshi:-)
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June 16, 2014 at 3:14 PM
actually the trending idea has rather come to bite you. You might have missed my comment in the previous thread but after claiming exactly the opposite for the longest time, and how the total mattered and nothing else, you’ve suddenly made a U-turn here!
On Talaash perhaps you stole 10 crores from its final total? And yeah Holiday and Talaash are completely comparable as genres. But if one plays that game I’m not sure why Holiday is anything less than a dismal performance since a 3 hr BMB with Farhan Akhtar did a 100!
But yeah expecting a rational debate from you on this or anything might be a bit like expecting Pepe to behave! Sorry I have today’s match on my mind!
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June 16, 2014 at 4:34 PM
” a 3 hr BMB with Farhan Akhtar did a 100!”
By this logic all of Abhi films are super flop, i guess you don’t need that logic since he has many super flops anyway. using this same logic, what does it mean for talaash, i hope you don’t think farhan akhter has same star appeal as aamir/rani/kareena…
You can’t keep comparing apple to oranges. sometime you have to compare apple to apple.
Every movie is unique and there are many factors involved.
A movie opening with no competition for 3 weeks is different from a movie which has to face new big movie every week.
A movie with actor in it riding high on success is different from the one which has main actor who is going thru low phase.
There are many many more factors involved.
Personally i don’t think what holiday has collected so far is anything great but consedering all factors, it’s doing okay.
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June 16, 2014 at 4:41 PM
you might want to either get English courses or read my response again.. your entire response here would have been unnecessary.. though when a SRK fan sees some of his star’s major releases scraping to a 100 perhaps he (or she) has a vested interest in this kind of argument. let’s talk about Don2 and JTHJ and many others.. we’ll get to Talaash soon enough! And I promise not to bring up Ra One..
send me the bill for your glass-house.. didn’t quite mean to shatter it..
This will be my last word on this subject till you show me you can read better.
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June 16, 2014 at 5:52 PM
Can you talk about any of the bachhans movies doing business of Don2, JTHJ, and i’ll throw in Ra One too…
LOL about glass house. nevermind shatter, you glass house has been destroyed completly time and again by Abhis failure and to top it off SRK is still there where he was 15 years ago, in top 3, you can put him at 3 if you like.
And, no, don’t send me the bill, it’s your house, your problem 🙂
Funny how you have to bring up SRK in everything, nothing has changed, your life revolves around SRK, period…
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June 17, 2014 at 2:41 AM
There is no denying that Holiday’s box office is hardly earth shattering. However, it has performed reasonably well with a star on a weak run lately and within a genre that has delivered only underperformers during the last 2 years. BOI say it may get to 100cr after 2 weeks run. So, it may probably gross around 20cr more to end up at around the 120cr mark.
It’s nothing like D3 territory. But at around 120cr, Holiday still is going to be the 12th or 13th biggest grosser of the recent times. A solid, universal hit finally.
At times good flicks make only end up with reasonable runs while shit movies end up doing better. Special Chabbis grossed as much as Khiladi 786 but I would take S26 over most other flicks of last year while K786 probably ranks as one the worst flicks I have had to endure. We talk a lot about Talaash’s underperformance here but there is no denying that it was undermined by the fact that it belonged to a genre that didn’t have universal appeal.
And when you look at how masala movies have been doing during the last 2 years, I don’t think anyone can claim that it’s the safest bet these days. Which is why I feel that Holiday’s BO is commendable really.
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June 17, 2014 at 9:03 AM
Holiday is a film which will have done 150 crore (my original prediction) if not for the sub standard Day 1 which can be attributed to Akshay Kumars falling presence at the BO. With a Hritik or a Salman this was 200 cr + material. The movie is not your average Masala fare but quite a gripping and interesting action movie.
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June 17, 2014 at 9:18 AM
you’ve said everything much more concisely and I agree. 150 was a totally fair (and achievable) benchmark for this film.
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June 17, 2014 at 9:39 AM
No film with anti terrorist theme was a hit in the past two decardes.The last film which was a success was Aamir Khan’s sarfarosh which was just above average.These kind of films dont do well.Akshay made Holiday a hit.
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June 17, 2014 at 9:40 AM
Fanaa? The guy is even an unrepentant terrorist! That did hugely well even without Gujarat.
MHN had the terrorism/national security angle and did very well. ETT had some of it too, opened massively.
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June 17, 2014 at 6:59 AM
taran adarsh @taran_adarsh · 3h
#Holiday [Week 2] Fri 4.39 cr, Sat 6.32 cr, Sun 8.74 cr, Mon 3.15 cr. Grand total: ₹ 91.29 cr nett. India biz. Marching towards ₹ 100 cr.
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June 17, 2014 at 9:41 AM
fanaa is pro terrorist.
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June 17, 2014 at 9:42 AM
You didnt understand what i said.Its about films which the hero mission is to kill terrorists.
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June 17, 2014 at 9:44 AM
so the Indian audience likes ‘pro-terrorist’ films as you put it but dislikes those in which the terrorists are actually caught or killed..?!
By the way New York even without major male stars did rather well.
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June 17, 2014 at 9:59 AM
Sunil: you raise an interesting point, perhaps because the terrorist is simply the latest cinematic manifestation of the figure of the outlaw (and bourgeois audiences have long had a fascination for criminality, a point Hannah Arendt made decades ago in “The Origins of Totalitarianism”); to be “on the side of the State” is where the bourgeoisie finds itself in “real life” (often unthinkingly so, with depressing regularity), but perhaps it prefers to dream of criminals (the dream of criminals is a dream of freedom, of a freedom that existed before the modern State; we discern echoes of the folk love for figures like Robin Hood or Papadu here), it makes waking life easier for all of us. But there are other, equally powerful, dreams too, for instance where a hyper-potent state goes around exterminating criminals/terrorists — the 1990s had a number of these, but films like Kaaka Kaaka and Singham fall into this — and these are, I would suggest, the stuff of fascism: where what one dreams about is not the “other” of waking life/politics, but its hyper-intensification (to the point where no obstacles stand in the way of ideological fulfilment: in the romantic narrative, removal of obstacles is not the point, because the romance lies in conflict and failure; in the totalitarian narrative, the point is the removal of every last obstacle, and the fantasy is of a cleansing — just consider the difference between Deewar and Inquilab)… There have been enough successful films in this genre (think of Sunny Deol’s later films; Singham) that one can hardly deem Holiday to have climbed a huge mountain here. Stated differently, I would argue that your astute point bears on the figure of the hero (the Devgan of Singham is not a romantic figure; whereas the outlaw can be), but not on box-office receipts.
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June 17, 2014 at 10:08 AM
Thats a good comment qalander.The films with the big stars since last fifteen years have never shown terroists,particularly islamic terroists as villains.There’s always a sympathy of terrorists.mhn is obviously made to counter gadar type of films.
But these films never have done well even since early 1990s.The khans becoming superstars might be a major reason.But there could be other reasons as well.Shahrukh khan has always made films which attack these type of films.and he atatcks manoj Kumar for these reasons.Manoj Kumar’s patriotic genre is well known.Bollywood audiences think these types of films are morally wrong.Although no religion is offended.
Also sunny deol has done some bad films after Indian and soon faded out.The public waited for wom for Holiday.And Holiday is a good films.Alshay’s rr grossed has already outgrossed ghajini anyway.A regular action film will do much better.
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June 17, 2014 at 10:14 AM
In the south,these films are seen as regular action films.They open well,and do well.But its a different thing ion hindi alltogether.The reason holiday is an important success is because it grossed 120cr and a is a hit this has crossed even jai ho,a salman khan film which came when he was in good form.Akshay brought back the patriotic genre back.
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June 17, 2014 at 10:38 AM
“Akshay will get his biggest hit soon”
Maybe, but I don’t think this means much today as it did in 2008. His biggest hit today or even biggest grosser would be RR at 130 crores. Beating that would put his film at 50% of the total collections of D3.
When Hrithiks batted out a 180 crore, SRK a 205 crore, Salman a 185 crore, Ranbir a 180 crore odd, Akshay is not in this league. With Happy New Year, Kick, Bang Bang and Peekay to arrive, one can only see that gap widening.
In 2008 you could say he was closer with SIK at 70 crores and RNBDJ at 80 crores and Ghajini at 115 crores.
Simply Akshay Kumar is not the kind of star to belt out big massive grossers. He doesn’t have that script selection or fandom to get that level of reception. What is commendable is he works hard, knocks out 2-4 films a year well into his 40’s and in his best days in 06-08 strung 5-6 hits out of 9 films and 2012 had RR, Housefull2 and OMG. In between he has had many failures. He keeps going but the gap between him and the top 5 is now wider than in 2008.
When he hits one out of the park wake me up Sunil. As you’ve been banging on about Akshay Kumar for years now, according to you he has many hits, and not many flops, other stars have many flop and not many hits, he is now a trend setter for patriotic films yet his films barely scrape the barrel in terms of total collections when compared with the top stars. Am I missing something?
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June 17, 2014 at 11:16 AM
This is an outstanding comment Qalandar..
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June 17, 2014 at 12:46 PM
I think jay shah hasnt understood that Holiday is a non holiday release.Akshay has the biggest non holiday grossers among the top league stars.When Aamir Khan couldnt take talaash to 100cr.Shahrukh Khan doesnt have a non holiday release sicne mnik.Hrithik’s biggest non holiday grosser is znmd.Akshay is ahead of all of them.If you quote Ranbir kapoor’s yjyd,a non holiday reease then you have to agree that Ranbir is bigger than Khans,Hrithik.
ce is massively overreported though,with srk buying tickets.The real net is only 175cr.ouatim 2 got only half the screens as ce which is in second week.
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June 17, 2014 at 12:51 PM
rr grossed 141cr,not 130cr.Ghajini net of 115cr is from producers.
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June 17, 2014 at 2:07 PM
there’s no way RR did 140. C’mon! Of course I can’t say the rest of your longer comment is very serious either!
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June 17, 2014 at 9:48 AM
haha.I said bollywood audiences doesnt like anti terroist film.new york isnt a hit at 45cr.Although yrf inflates numbers.Holiday isnt a normal action film.Akshay will get his biggest hit soon.
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June 17, 2014 at 9:51 AM
NY isn’t a hit at 45-50 crores all those years ago with Neil Mukesh and John Abraham in the lead while all these years later Holiday with Akshay is one no questions asked?
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June 17, 2014 at 9:59 AM
I think new york dioesnt have irfan khan as hero.!It has other smaller stars as alleged terrorists.That isnt even a comparision.
mhn is about a Indian hindu terrorist.Holiday at 120cr has done well.
It might have done better,but this is a good hit.
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June 17, 2014 at 11:41 AM
Actor Abhishek Bachchan today made a courtesy call on Rajasthan Chief Minister Vasundhara Raje at the state secretariat here, a CMO spokesman said.
Abhishek Bachchan discussed matters related to the International Kabaddi League with the Chief Minister, the spokesman said.
Chairman of International Kabaddi Federation Janardan Singh was also present during the meeting.
While coming out of the Chief Minister’s Office, Abhishek Bachchan told reporters that the Chief Minister showed enthusiasm over the Kabaddi league.
Quoting the Bollywood actor, the spokesman said Raje was confident and had strong vision on sports.
However, it was not yet clear whether the Kabaddi league would be held in Rajasthan or not.
http://indianexpress.com/article/entertainment/bollywood/abhishek-bachchan-meets-vasundhara-raje-discusses-kabaddi-league/
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June 17, 2014 at 11:42 AM
http://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/jaipur/abhishek-bachchan-visits-jaipur-in-new-role-as-kabbadi-promoter/article1-1230398.aspx
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June 17, 2014 at 4:12 PM
This is Hilarious…..but on a serious note why are Salman, Big B , SRK, etc. not speaking up ??????
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June 17, 2014 at 4:45 PM
This is why I think. Salman is the people’s hero. Whereas a lot of other stars/super stars would have been kind of polite (in their response), Salman was in your face rude. I am not in favor of such rudeness, I believe that there needs to be some protocols, but the average person laps this up.
This clip will now add to Kick’s hype.
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June 17, 2014 at 11:19 PM
idiot reporters do need to be put in their place, especially the media in India. sallu gives interviews all the damn time on several topics. THIS specific time was for a film promotion. why the hell would anyone bring up random stuff? especially about someone else personal matter?
i honestly don’t think sallu or anyone else for that matter needs to speak up publicly about preity and her molestation charge on her ex. maybe privately they can support her and be there for her, but really no need to support her publicly or even comment on it.
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June 17, 2014 at 4:26 PM
watched IIFA last Sunday, what a waste of time………..bilkul bakwaas !!
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June 17, 2014 at 8:46 PM
Actually found it better than most award shows. Tho, its not saying much. Good to see an award show not hosted by SRK/salman
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June 17, 2014 at 4:56 PM
Aamir Khan’s teenage daughter Ira will host a celebrity football match on June 20. Our source says the star-beti, who got amazing grades in her final year at school, has managed to get several superstars, including Sachin Tendulkar, Hrithik Roshan, Abhishek Bachchan and Tiger Shroff on her own accord for the tournament.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Entertainment/Hindi/Bollywood/News-Interviews/Ira-Aamir-Khans-daughter-gets-Hrithik-Roshan-and-Abhishek-Bachchan-for-a-football-match/articleshow/36717963.cms
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June 17, 2014 at 9:09 PM
LOL “superstars such as Tiger Shroff and Abhishek Bachchan”! Abhishek I can somewhat understand, but Sachin and Tiger grouped together? Wtf!
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June 18, 2014 at 6:32 AM
taran adarsh @taran_adarsh · 2h
#Holiday [Week 2] Fri 4.40 cr, Sat 6.34 cr, Sun 8.77 cr, Mon 3.18 cr, Tue 2.96 cr. Grand total: ₹ 94.33 cr nett. India biz. Rock-steady!
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June 18, 2014 at 2:34 PM
BOI have it at around 91cr for the same period. I guess that it will wrap up at around 120cr as per Taran and at around 115cr as per BOI. Solid hit, no doubt about that. But could have done better and maybe deserved better.
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June 18, 2014 at 4:43 PM
“will wrap up at around 120cr as per Taran and at around 115cr ”
Omg I’m pleasantly surprised to see the satellite imagery guided/ cruise missile-like accuracy of my predictions of 110-120 cr(wh)ore
Ps: some good stuff by Sunil–keep it up m8
Ps2: about the preity zinta-ness imbroglio –no comments
I will leave it open for u folks –what do u feel..
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June 19, 2014 at 6:10 AM
taran adarsh @taran_adarsh · 2h
#Holiday [Week 2] Fri 4.40 cr, Sat 6.34 cr, Sun 8.77 cr, Mon 3.18 cr, Tue 2.97 cr, Wed 2.73 cr. Grand total: ₹ 97.08 cr nett. India biz.
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June 19, 2014 at 8:14 AM
World war Z on netflix now.
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June 19, 2014 at 9:29 AM
Even on SS, Z is always on the war path…
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June 19, 2014 at 2:19 PM
“Z is always on the war path…”
🙂
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June 19, 2014 at 9:54 AM
Thanks apex,when ghajini released satyam said this is a genre which is not a hit in last two decades.Although There was a blockbuster mohra.Even Holiday is a genre which is not a hit since last two decades.
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June 19, 2014 at 9:58 AM
Mohra was a hit, but “blockbuster”?!
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June 19, 2014 at 10:14 AM
I really liked Mohra. Raveena was top notch back then with Tip Tip Barsa Paani! Blockbuster soundtrack for sure!
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June 19, 2014 at 10:27 AM
qalander,you should not go by boi.Karan Arjun had lesser ticket sales than Mohra.Mohra was released in june 1994,and hahk two months later.After two weeks,ticket prices were increased by 240%.
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June 19, 2014 at 11:58 AM
Mohra was a superhit. Any hindi cinema lover of that time would know that. Don’t know what they are smoking at BOI if they are denying that.
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June 19, 2014 at 12:36 PM
Mohra had a big opening, the biggest of the year I think (because HAHK was just screened in one or two Bombay theaters at the beginning!). In terms of gross it was decent after that opening, nothing spectacular. Was still the year’s biggest grosser after HAHK (huge gulf here obviously) but that’s not saying much given that there wasn’t another serious grosser that year. Krantiveer might have been next on the list. In any case suspense thrillers of this sort, even with masala added, never trend too strongly in Hindi cinema. So a successful film without doubt but I wouldn’t call it a super-hit let alone a blockbuster. another way of doing it is if you examine super hits from just the year before or the year after you’ll see significantly bigger grosses at that top 5 level. Aankhen for example in 1993. Mohra had the Khalnayak run. A big initial with decent follow-through. Obviously a more successful film than Khalnayak in terms of expectations and profitability. Some films get big grosses because of the initials but a true super-hit shows a minimal trending. Simply being decent means the gross is mostly about the initial. Of course those films trended superbly by today’s bankrupt standards but that’s another matter.
Of course (and this is for Sunil) but the initial was largely due to a popular song and of course Rajiv Rai who was still significant at the time. Akshay’s career didn’t really take off despite this film.
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June 19, 2014 at 12:50 PM
The songs, and of course Rai who had Tridev and Vishwatma behind him (the Naseer link probably more apt here)
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June 19, 2014 at 2:39 PM
Tridev, Vishwatma, Mohra, Gupt. Nice set of films, then all sudden where did he go?
His movies had good amount of masala in it with awesome songs.
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June 19, 2014 at 2:41 PM
Forgot Yudh.
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June 19, 2014 at 1:32 PM
Mohra at 13cr and maine pyar kiya at 14cr with same ticket prices.People who dont know how older films grossed will make these arguments.Satyam should ask yakuza about these things.
For many bo starts from Lagaan.
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June 19, 2014 at 1:47 PM
MPK released something like 5 years before Mohra. You should also check out what the inflation adjusted grosses would be! Not to mention this was a film with newcomers, the Barjatyas hadn’t done anything significant for years, this film then proved to be a huge success. You say ridiculous stuff. Don’t know why. Why not simply compare it to Aankhen that just a year before made a lot more?! And this was a true super hit/blockbuster. By the way I think there was a much more significant gap between Mohra and MPK in favor of the latter. I’d say Mohra was probably 5 crores or so behind MPK in absolute terms. Anyway not sure why I’m even bothering. You’ll follow this up with something more outrageous.
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June 20, 2014 at 12:41 AM
I think that the unanimous verdict of that time from Taran (Trade Guide) and Nahta (Film Information) was that MPK, Ankhein and HAHK were blockbusters while Mohra was a superhit. Taran was usually using the term ‘historical superhit’ for those blockbusters.
I still don’t know how 20 years afterwards BOI and IBOS are coming up with totals for all these movies when at that time only those 2 BO sources existed and even they were only reporting certain numbers from a limited number of theatres from the main centres and % occupancy was the main indicator of how a movie was doing.
So, 20 or 30 years on, BOI and IBOS have been able to track all the numbers from all those B and C Centres when so many of those theatres have probably already closed down while at the time of release even the producers were allegedly finding it hard to do it?
My take on it: take those totals with a pinch of salt instead of them being the gospel truth. These are most probably nothing more than mere estimates and anyone can come up with his own.
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June 20, 2014 at 1:13 AM
Taran Adarsh gave blockbuster to Mohra.Akshay had only a hit in khiladi before,and a few above average grossers.
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June 20, 2014 at 4:42 AM
MPK, Ankhein and HAHK (along with Raja Hindustani and Kuch Kuch Hota Hai and DDLJ) are All Time Blockbusters as far as I can remember.
Let Sunil have his day…otherwise he’ll be saying Blue or Tashan is a superhit soon…
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