JayShah’s Saturday Box Office Column – Kambakkht Ishq opens well; signs of slide…

Note all numbers are from Trade Guide

Reporting Methodology

1) New films most of the time where possible will be benchmarked against other films ‘in the same range’. The gross used for the older films will be one’s I have computed in the past
2) Films currently playing – I will always do some trending analysis. This is always against the ‘week before’
3) To compute subsequent week grosses I will always benchmark against ‘the first week’. Before it was always the preceding week, but Week 1 is always the best base because it gives maximum centres to use
4) Going forward I will show ONE example in FULL and show the results of the remaining scenarios

New Releases

Kambakkht Ishq

Its testament to the star system and a timely release that Kambakkht Ishq has managed to post a sizeable first week haul but the signs are already there in the collections that the film has struggled after a big first weekend. The opening by all accounts was as expected very big, with a wide release and immense pre-release hype. But following a strong first weekend, the weekdays have shown considerable signs of drops.

The Akshay Kumar & Kareena Kapoor all out entertainer, promoted as the “Battle of Sexes” and with a dash of Hollywood presence failed to make any impression with most critics. In fact the film has been fighting a huge amount negativity press since release so in the end the first week numbers have found a middle ground – not too extra-ordinary but considering the media barrage, a credible net gross.

Week 1 Kambakkht Ishq vs Week 1 CCTC
Mumbai 30% means that CCTC is 30% LESS than Kambakkht Ishq in Week 1

Mumbai 30%
Ahmedabad 32%
Baroda 21%
Bharuch -7%
Jamnagar 11%
Pune -354%
Goa 7%
Nasik 72%
Delhi 71%
Lucknow 48%
Faridabad 21%
Gorakhpur 30%
Agra 15%
Gurgaon -432%
Indore 86%
Nagpur 69%
Raipur 25%
Ujjain 11%
Sehore 26%
Kolkatta 25%
Burdwan 19%
Jaipur 45%
Bangalore -7%
Chennai -1%
Vijayawada -38%

CCTC leads in 6 centres
KI leads in 19 centres

The cumulative centre total for the above centres for KI = 10.72Cr (Pune, Delhi, Gurgaon)
The cumulative centre total for the above centres for CCTC = 7.26Cr (Pune, Delhi, Gurgaon)

This means that KI is 148% of CCTC’s total (10.72/7.26 = 148%)

Using my own CCTC Week 1 total of 22.75Cr (midpoint), KI’s Week 1 = 146% * (22.75) = 33.6Cr

A similar exercise with OSO, RNBDJ & Raaz – TMC yields the following outputs;
OSO ~ 32.4Cr (using my OSO figure of 36.0Cr)
RNBDJ ~ 34.0Cr (using my RNBDJ figure of 40.0Cr)
Raaz – TMC ~ 33.8Cr (using my Raaz – TMC figure of 18.5Cr)

Kambakkht Ishq 1 Week Total = 32.5-34.0Cr(Week 1) = 32.5-34.0Cr

Verdict – Good Opening Week though alarming signs of slide

Kambakkht Ishq’s first week is pretty much in the ballpark of films like Dhoom 2, Welcome and Race. It’s considerably shy of Golmaal Returns (8 day total), Om Shanti Om, Singh is Kinng, Rab Ne Bana Di Jodi & Ghajini. Almost certainly the film is struggling at the box office from after the first weekend – the film’s opening was on a par with Singh is Kinng and Rab Ne Bana Di Jodi from most reports, but has fallen short of these totals.

The negative press is certainly a factor, but overall the weak word of mouth is the biggest contributor. The first week haul ensures that the film won’t flop but the film will need to at least post a decent second week total to have a chance of being classified as an average plus film. A finishing total of between 50-55Cr is the most likely.

Past Releases

New York

Despite the huge release of Kambakkht Ishq, New York managed to post a decent second week – clearly suggesting the film has found a considerable audience and is a success.

New York Week 2 vs New York Week 1
66% Mumbai means New York fell by 66% in Mumbai in Week 2

Mumbai 66%
Ahmedabad 65%
Gandhinagar 69%
Himmatnagar -389%
Jamnagar 59%
Rajkot 53%
Baroda -287%
Bharuch 77%
Pune 62%
Goa 72%
Nasik 67%
Gurgaon 92%
Faridabad 78%
Gorakhpur 54%
Delhi 98%
Lucknow 78%
Indore 78%
Raipur 63%
Nagpur 69%
Ujjain 73%
Sehore 63%
Jaipur 74%
Ajmer 63%
Kota 62%
Guwahati 52%
Kolkatta 82%
Burdwan 57%
Hyderabad 64%
Bangalore 26%
Chennai 42%
Vijayawada 64%

Trending
Week 2 drop = 66%
Most centres have seen considerable drops but this was expected as Kambakkht Ishq took the lion’s share of screens and attention. The trend is consistent across India with most centres falling between 50-75%. Chennai and Bangalore held up best, the North of India less so.

The New York Week 1 total for the above centres = 9.23Cr (ignoring Himmatnager, Baroda, Gurgaon, Delhi, Kolkatta)
The New York Week 2 total for the above centres = 3.15Cr (ignoring Himmatnager, Baroda, Gurgaon, Delhi, Kolkatta)

This means that New York’s Week 2 total is 34% of New York’s Week 1 total (3.15/9.23 = 34%)

Using my own New York Week 1 Total of 26.0-27.0Cr, New York’s Week 2 Total = 34% * (26.0-27.0) = 8.9-9.2Cr

New York 2 Week Total = 26.0-27.0Cr(Week 1) + 8.9-9.2Cr(Week 2) = 34.9 – 36.2Cr

Verdict – Above Average with the promise of more

New York was as stable as one could have expected it to be but the coming weeks should see the film accumulate a total in excess of 45Cr which would qualify the film as the first biggie of the year to be a “proper” hit.

January 2009
Chandi Chowk to China : 24.5 – 26.2Cr (Disaster)
Raaz – The Mystery Continues : 22.5 – 23.8Cr (Below Average)
Slumdog Millionaire : 4.8 – 5.5Cr (Flop)
Luck By Chance : 16.3 – 17.9Cr (Flop)
Victory : 1.2 – 1.5Cr (Disaster)

February 2009
Dev D : 16.0 – 17.2Cr (Hit)
Billu : 22.7 – 24.1Cr (Flop)
Delhi 6 : 32.7 – 35.0Cr (Flop)
Kisse Pyaar Karoon : 0.4 – 0.5Cr (Flop)
Siddharth – The Prisoner : 0.1 – 0.2Cr (Flop)

March 2009
Dhoondte Reh Jaoge : 7.5 – 8.1Cr (Flop)
13B : 7.4 – 8.2Cr (Flop)
Gulaal : 3.5 – 4.1Cr (Flop)
Jai Veeru : 1.5 – 2.0Cr (Flop)
Little Zizou : 1.1 – 1.2Cr (Average)
Aloo Chat : 4.0 – 4.7Cr (Flop)
Aa Dekhen Zara : 3.9 – 4.3Cr (Flop)
Ek – The Power of One : 4.3 – 4.7Cr (Flop)

April 2009
8×10 Tasveer : 11.5 – 12.5Cr (Flop)

May 2009
99 : 11.9 – 12.5Cr (Above Average)
Detective Naani : 0.6 – 0.7Cr (Flop)

June 2009
Maruti Mera Dosst : 0.2 – 0.3Cr (Flop)
Team – The Force : 1.5 – 1.7Cr (Flop)
Kal Kissne Dekha : 5.6 – 6.0Cr (Disaster)
Paying Guests : 6.9 – 7.5Cr (Flop)
New York : 34.9 – 36.2Cr (Above Average)

July 2009
Kambakkht Ishq : 32.5 – 34.0Cr (Good Opening Week)

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68 Responses to “JayShah’s Saturday Box Office Column – Kambakkht Ishq opens well; signs of slide…”

  1. Great work Jay. I think you’re quite right about the slide being evident in the numbers. The Bombay number for example is exactly the same as Dostana’s. Some numbers still seem strong. Ahmedabad for example (now you know why rajen liked it!). I thought it might be 35-37 crores but looks like it’s even less than this. Given that this had a huge opening there’s no doubt that there has been some damage here.

    I will say this. Taran has clearly decided that he’s going to call this a megahit or whatever but the media is general has been swayed (the reviews were negative not the box office reports) by the big opening thing. Unless it completely crashes which is probably unlikely for this sort of film I think it will be called a success.

    Akshay’s star power in this genre is clearly undiminished but unless he starts thinking more about scripts he will keep seeing diminishing returns.

    And yes NY has been very stable given the opposition. They probably would have done well to not release it a week before KI but then they probably didn’t have too many options (incidentally the odd thing about this passable film is that Neil Nitin Mukesh has the central role!).

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  2. Rooney’s comment:

    “Luck releases on 24th july and it wont be wrong to say that the product has been given less publicity than one would have thought. So i am not expecting it to have a bumper opening. But a good reasonable opening around 20-25 crores. that to because it has the Jaane tu.. star.

    But here comes the twist…..

    What if the movie is liked and appreciated like jaane tu..and gets positive word of mouth than it will crash land to Love Aaj Kal which releases on 31st july. Luck has some cool action, a good lead pair, ok to good music and if Soham makes the movie as a good interestiing action with a tight screenplay and some unexpected twist like Dus,( i didnt remember another recent action hit) than Love Aaj Kal Has lot to worry. Imran has the following after jaane tu to upset a movie like Love Aaj Kal if the director gets the movie right.

    Also love aaj kal though from director of Jab we met and good music and good vibes makes me unsure simply because i m not convince by saifs potrayal and look from promos and that may leave a lot for Deepika to salvage.

    Also to add movie has dual stories together which is not such a successful trend at Indian Box Office. Ofcourse it seems to have crackling dialogue but two stories in one always leaves the audiences in India unsatisfied from my understanding of recent history.

    And also to note is Luck belongs to Dhoom 2 (now i remember !) category which was sure fire hit about dangerous stunts good music, heroine in bikini except that luck comparatively a small film to Dhoom but my prediction is luck will crashland and not only effect Love Aaj kal but can effect it very strongly….

    guys would like to know yours Bo opinion on this..i know m predicting against the odds but i did rather be lucky than good at predicting :-)”

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    • Rooney, a movie like Luck sustaining the way JTYJN did is very unlikely. For one these slick action types always look better in the previews than they turn out to be in the final cut! The best possible scenario is the Race one where a lot of people liked the film, it did well, nonetheless had a relatively fast fade and certainly didn’t enjoy JTYJN sort of trending. Now one could make the case that if a film isn’t truly lionized by either the family audience or an under 30 segment it cannot have very great trending. I think there’s a correlation in this sense. I’d be surprised if Luck did very well let alone having that sort of trending. Race did deconstruct D2 to the extent that it proved within a certain genre you could get similar numbers with lesser stars but the point that should not be missed is that Saif with Katrina and then Akshaye Khanna thrown in is actually a pretty good mix for the multiplexes.

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      • mksrooney Says:

        well m taking a gamble here in predicting ..i know as u show the odds are against me…but my gut feeling says this will click bigtime…

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  3. Taran’s 42 crore spreadsheet for KI:

    http://www.bollywoodhungama.com/trade/special_features/index.html

    Haven’t we seen this deal before?!

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  4. Taran is playing games. BOI has first week at 36 crores. I think it will finish 55-60 crores. An underperformer for sure.

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  5. Taran has mixed up Gross and NETT numbers. In circuit breakup he shows Delhi+UP to be 9 crore and in center collections he has delhi alone at 9 crore and separate collections for UP centers.
    KI is weak in south but numbers suggest that it is on par with Ghajini and RNBDJ, which further validate that Taran is mixing gross numbers and Producers are pumping up the numbers for 100 cr claim.

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  6. I am amused by the efforts on part of Hrithik/SRK fans to run down the film’s performance.

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    • Not just this but I note that Jay’s numbers are more ‘widely’ accepted ‘x’ months after a film’s release!

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    • The other thing that is often missed in box office ‘debates’ is that no matter how much the other star underperforms one’s own favorite star ultimately has to come up with something. There’s no such thing as a top star by default. This kind of position and/or prestige has to be earned, one way or the other. And if one’s favorite star is underperforming other stars doing so just plateaus out things. That still leaves the burden of someone cutting ahead of the pack. Of course this entire ‘competition’ might be anachronistic in today’s increasingly Hollywoodized system where there is a top bracket but for all sorts of reasons not clearly one top star. I have argued that Bachchan was the last of the undisputed one. I think that it might now ‘structurally’ be the case. again we might not be there completely yet but we are heading in that direction which is why ‘prestige’ becomes all the more important. You need to be successful at the box office but also have more films with a shelf life. The superhits that are also disposable cinema will put a star in the top bracket if these are consistently delivered but will still hamstring that star from getting ahead within that fold. Which is why with Aamir we see the box office but also the films with the shelf life. He seems to be in the driver’s seat in the way SRK isn’t, precisely because he has control over his narrative for one and secondly his narrative is the one of choice at the moment. Box office yes but prestige films also.

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  7. BOI’s figure is in the ballpark. A couple of crores here or there from Jay’s total is within margin of error. Times have indeed changed when a 36 crore opening is considered a flop performance by some.

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  8. mksrooney Says:

    nice work jay as usual though m disappointed that ovie startted to slide down from monday orl lately…as i thought may be it had some spark to carry on

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  9. Rooney: Guilty as charged

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  10. I’m glad KI is not performing well. I like Akki but this movie does not deserve to be a hit to encourage more of the same sh*t.

    He got a good opening so his star has not dimmed with his fan base. But it should be a wake up call to him to that people are weary of his tasteless comedies. They expect more from him now – mix it up a little.

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  11. I saw KI. It was slightly more bearable than CC2C. Akki has brought down the bar so low that such are the comparisons one has to make.

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  12. moifightclub Says:

    the makers claiming 100 crore is a big lie. eros has two more big releases this year..its a big bet and they want to make sure that it looks all happy from the start…
    http://moifightclub.wordpress.com/2009/07/11/kambakkht-ishqs-100-crore-a-big-fat-box-office-lie/

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  13. Thanks Jay! But is the KI drop really alarming?

    PS: Satyam, can we please have more Tamil songs – the way you posted earlier. And having more of Surya would be great 🙂

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  14. If one can read between lines then KI is surely going in ‘Tashan’ way! Akki’s star powered has indeed diminished and there is hope for better cinema. Thank goodness Kareena’s much hyped sexy(Biggest joke and PR machinary at their best or worse!) avatar seems to have worked only for Sandy & Taran!
    Akki has publicly blamed his own freternity for feeding bad reports/reviews and there might be some truth to that but it’s effect on box office collection is debatable issue.

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    • I don’t think Akshay has lost his star power. Otherwise he wouldn’t get these sorts of numbers. Remember he gets a huge opening weekend and the films then tank. What’s happening is that he’s doing poorly with the scripts of late. And these things do affect you beyond a point specially since Akshay has no prestige really associated with him other than through the box office. But yeah it’s getting lean for him if KI doesn’t stabilize. Because when you just do the box office deal you have no excuses for failure. CCTC or Tashan were spoofs in a way but KI was regular and they should have got a proper success here. Still not too late for that to happen but the trendline is very poor.

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  15. Thanks Jay — I must say I was expecting more from Kambakht Ishq…

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  16. Thanks Jayshah. I must say I am very surprised by New York’s success. Yashraj is still way behind the competition though.

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  17. I think the last Akshay film with a somewhat decent script was Namaste London. It was also a lot more than classy than an average Akshay film.

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  18. Idea’s comment:

    http://www.boxofficeindia.com/npages.php?page=shownews&articleid=1018&nCat=news

    and maybe, another 20-30 cr from overseas, so total around 80 Cr NETT…..

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  19. ideaunique Says:

    KI being a HIT justifies the saying that “Andheri Nagari me……” 🙂

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    • It’s not a hit yet by any reasonable definition.. having said that if the media keeps up this narrative it might be a distinction without a difference.

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  20. ideaunique Says:

    “I liked Bhool Bhulaiya the most. It was a remake of course but this was his most watchable film for me.”

    ya, this was ok – but I prefer the Tamil version with Rajni’s antics any day 🙂

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  21. jayshah Says:

    The media is desperate to call KI a hit. It’s become apparent that anything that takes a good opening is called a hit nowadays. But the fact for KI remains that it will probably fall heavily in week 2 (70%+) and end with a total shy of 50Cr. Whichever way this is spun…the collections have basically followed the KANK/MP route. KI isn’t a disaster or anything, but calling it a hit is rather ridiculous. It won’t even end up with a total better than New York probably and that film is a hit pretty much. So how can KI be a hit? Or is New York a blockbuster?

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    • You’ve hit the nail on the hand. a film that opens huge finds it easy to be called a hit even with dramatic drops. So unless it’s an absolute disaster such a film is peddled as a success. Having said that if this film only ends up making 50-55 crores that will be an extremely poor performance. Because here there are no excuses in terms of genre and so forth. But there is an ideological component to these things as well. The film’s narrative was in place on the first day of release. On the other hand MP even if it had released today and run up those awesome numbers would probably still not have been celebrated. We saw this in a different sense with Dostana as well where this was the sort of thing that really pleased the liberal establishment. Of course if KI is a hit at 50-60 crores Dostana is a blockbuster! The big initials at any rate are a big part of the story. But to paper over some vulnerabilities the film has to please the media and the interests it represents in terms of its readership/viewership and so forth.

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  22. (Yet again as a contrast to the insanity of Indian box office reporting I offer this NY Times story)

    July 13, 2009
    No Swagger Like ‘Borat,’ but ‘Brüno’ Opens on Top
    By BROOKS BARNES

    “Brüno” is no “Borat.”

    Despite the best efforts of Universal Pictures and Sacha Baron Cohen to will their gay-themed “Brüno” into a cultural and financial juggernaut akin to Mr. Baron Cohen’s “Borat,” the new film’s so-so opening over the weekend indicates it will fall short of the goal.

    The results look impressive on the surface. The R-rated “Brüno” was No. 1 in North American theaters over the weekend with estimated ticket sales of $30.4 million, according to box office tracking services. “Borat,” which carried the formal subtitle “Cultural Learnings of America for Make Benefit Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan,” opened to $26.5 million in 2006 (or about $28 million when adjusted for inflation) and went on to gross $128.5 million domestically.

    The problem is that “Brüno” was released in 2,756 theaters in North America — over three times as many as the number of theaters in which “Borat” played initially — but failed to increase its opening tally accordingly. Put another way, “Brüno” had a per-theater average of $11,040; “Borat’s” average was $31,607 its opening weekend. So interest in “Brüno” was comparatively soft.

    Universal urgently needs “Brüno” to become a substantial hit. The studio, part of NBC Universal, which is owned by General Electric, has stumbled at the summer box office, something that Hollywood expects from time to time but that corporate owners do not.

    After disastrous results for its “Land of the Lost” and an arduous road to profitability for its “Public Enemies,” Universal has become a hot subject of speculation in the movie capital. (The studio considers “Public Enemies” a hit, as it is performing on par with expectations domestically and outperforming overseas.) Does a management shake-up lie ahead? Spokeswomen for the company have brushed such chatter aside as rubbish.

    Universal returns to bat on July 31 with “Funny People,” an R-rated comedy starring Adam Sandler that was written and directed by Judd Apatow. The movie is being marketed as a romp akin to Mr. Apatow’s highly successful “Knocked Up,” but “Funny People” tackles more grown-up subject matter — the central character has a terminal illness — that could prove a turnoff to some comedy fans.

    The studio on Sunday sought to focus attention on the global performance of “Brüno.” In eight of the biggest markets overseas “Brüno” sold $20 million more in tickets. The film will open in more countries in the coming weeks, but Universal does not control those rights.

    “We are all so pleased with the result, which tells us this is going to be a very, very profitable movie for us,” said Nikki Rocco, Universal’s president for domestic distribution. But how much gas does “Brüno” have left in its tank? “I wish I had tea leaves, but I just don’t,” she said.

    “The film will be very profitable for the studio,” a company spokesman wrote in an unusually forceful morning e-mail message to reporters. Universal said it paid $42.5 million for the distribution rights to “Brüno.” (“Borat” cost 20th Century Fox about $18 million; Fox bid on the rights to “Brüno” but dropped out as the price rose.)

    For the weekend “Ice Age: Dawn of the Dinosaurs” (Fox) sold an estimated $28.5 million in tickets for second place and a new cumulative total of $120.6 million. “Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen” (Paramount) continued to show impressive traction, placing third with an estimated $24.2 million ($339.2 million total).

    “Public Enemies” was fourth with $14.1 million ($66.5 million) while “The Proposal” (Disney) clung to the Top 5 with $10.5 million ($113.8 million).

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  23. By the way it’s all over the place with this one. Taran basically picks up the producer’s total and pegs it at 42 crores. BOI have it at 36 crores (I recall some debates of the past.. with Partner they were over the producer’s total for example). IBOS remarkably have it at 43.4 crores (!). don’t think it’s very likely that the producer is underselling this one!

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  24. (how does one unravel this?!)

    Kambakkht Ishq Grosses 7.50 Crore Over Second Weekend

    Monday 13th July 2009 11.30 IST

    Boxofficeindia.Com Trade Network

    Kambakkht Ishq grossed around 7.50 crore nett over its second weekend taking its ten day nett gross to around 43.50 crore nett. The first weekend business was 24 crore nett so the film is showing a drop of nearly 70%.

    The film should finish week two at about 47 crore nett and lifetime nett business seems to be heading for the 52-55 crore range. The lifetime distributor share will be about 27-28 crore with 20 crore coming in the first week. Compared to the big films of last year it’s lifetime share will be below Ghajini, Rab Ne Bana Di Jodi, Singh Is Kinng and Race but higher than Jodhaa Akbar and Dostana.

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  25. KI – 2nd weekend in the US – 55% drop – $343,468.00

    http://www.boxofficemojo.com/weekend/chart/

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  26. Jay, this post of yours has garnered a remarkable number of hits and did so even within the first couple of days. So you have a huge fan following. Justifiably so one should add. But I’d also like to bring up an older thread of yours here which has been one of the top 10 ones in the short history of this blog getting close to a thousand hits:

    https://satyamshot.wordpress.com/2009/04/27/jays-predictions-for-the-5-biggies-of-the-year/

    But I bring it up here because you can take a bow. You were on the money with KI.

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    • jayshah Says:

      Oh thats cool to know…prediction for KI is pretty much right I guess. Ironically the other 4 predictions, 3 of them dont even have confirmed release dates for this year!

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  27. ideaunique Says:

    Jay, what is the no. (NETT) that will make KI a HIT, S.HIT or a BB? At present, the picture is a bit confusing…

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  28. ideaunique Says:

    also, what is ur prediction on LUCK and KAMINEY?

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    • jayshah Says:

      IU – KI would need 60-65Cr plus for a hit. There really is no chance of it happening. Most likely is it won’t even reach 50Cr. I’d bet on New York outgrossing it.

      Not so keen on Luck, I might catch it in cinema, but don’t think this kind of movie does super business unless it has a huge hero in it or supercast. This seems pretty half baked so reckon flop to average.

      Kaminey I think will have a lot of hype around it. Will be a hit. Could be the year’s top grosser thus far…also think Love Aaj Kal will do decently enough.

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  29. ideaunique Says:

    but jay, BOI mentions that KI did 43 cr nett in first week and the second weekend was 7 cr so it has already reached 50 cr in india and overseas must be 10-15 cr….so?

    Luck will be an acid test for Imran Khan and Soham Shah too….he was literally written off after his parting way with KJO….I liked his first movie KAAL…

    Kaminey – I am with you.

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    • BOI now have the first week gross at 33.4 crores. They earlier mentioned 36 crores, it’s now even lower than that. The only source that has it at higher than the already dubious (and frankly not possible) producer’s total is IBOS at 43.4 crores.

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  30. ideaunique Says:

    “BOI now have the first week gross at 33.4 crores”
    satyam, i guess it is NETT

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    • but they never deal in gross do they?!

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      • ideaunique Says:

        actually it is around 50 cr GROSS – 1/3 of which goes to tax hence they say 33.4 cr NETT

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        • ideaunique Says:

          satyam, pl. check http://www.ibosnetwork.com/
          “Total Domestic Gross” is 59 cr and “Domestic Net” is 43 cr

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        • but BOI never puts gross figures on the site. IBOS meanwhile claim a 59 crores gross for 43 crores. The point is that there is an almost 10 crore differential between the BOI number and the producer total. I mentioned this earlier but when Partner released they were 7 crores over the producer total. The point here is that there is just no transparency. I of course don’t believe the IBOS number at all either. I will get back to an old formula. No film that makes 6.2 crores in Bombay could really open well north of 40 crores. The math just isn’t there. One would have to assume that Bombay is a complete outlier for this film which doesn’t make sense. as for this mythology of the ‘North’ that if often peddled about certain films consider the highest grossing Indian cities in no order — Bombay, Delhi, Ahmedabad, Hyderabad, Bangalore, Calcutta, Pune. Only one’s in the North! And the city of Bombay much like the territory of Bombay has a disproportionate share of the market. So these terms are just thrown around without anyone bothering to look at the math.

          Ultimately it’s not even about online sites and their reliability. We’ve had many discussions about these and there’s nothing to add to them. It’s also about individuals like ourselves who are essentially interested in one star or another, and opposed to many others who are constantly trying to game the system. So nuggets are picked up here, there and everywhere to advance a viewpoint. I now also see evidence online of some who always had all kinds of problems with Jay’s methodology essentially cloning his work. The problem is essentially one of having an agenda. everything else is made to fit the bill.

          There are real effects of what the major media outlets engage in. So yes if every cable channel keeps calling KI a hit without qualification this entire discussion becomes a little academic. Because the former is what people will believe. So the issue of perception is a real one. But to the extent that we are engaging in analysis we have to be objective about these things. Not because we’re trying to build majorities by any means!

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  31. ideaunique Says:

    Sandy kahan hei? 🙂 usko hazir kiya jay, bilkul galat predictions (75-80 cr nett) karti hei ye ladki 🙂

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  32. LOL idea!

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  33. http://www.bollywoodhungama.com/features/2009/07/14/5308/index.html

    “Last but not the least, since you have bounced back in a massive way; has the battle of being No.1 resumed?
    Do you know what, anyone who wants it please have it! I beg you, be ‘Number one’, anyone for that matter. I want no part of it. I was happy when I was not a contender; I am the last guy who is interested. Shah Rukh, Aamir, Salman, Hrithik, Abhishek – enjoy, you don’t have to worry about me! I just want to make movies and go home, so you guys figure it out. I support you all the way!”

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  34. Day 1: Harry Potter & Half-Blood Prince grosses $104 million

    Warner Bros. Pictures’ Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince has already shattered two box office records, first breaking the record for a midnight opening with $22.2 million, eclipsing the studio’s own record set last year by The Dark Knight.

    Moreover, Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince flew past the worldwide opening day box office record: with the domestic gross of $58.18 million and the international totals of $45.85 million combining for an astounding one-day global box office gross of more than $104 million.

    Warner Bros. Pictures president of domestic distribution Dan Fellman said, “We are so happy to share ‘Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince’ with the fans and thrilled that they turned out in record numbers to see it.”

    Warner Bros. Pictures president of international distribution Veronika Kwan-Rubinek added, “With many countries yet to open, these already outstanding box office numbers are another testament to the universal appeal of J.K. Rowling’s stories and the remarkable work of everyone behind the Harry Potter films.”

    Warner Bros. president and COO Alan Horn said, “Quite simply, we owe this record-breaking opening to the remarkable fans who have stood by us and who stood in line to be among the first to see Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince. We thank them again for their patience and we hope they agree with us that the film was well worth the wait.”

    Warner Bros. Pictures Group president Jeff Robinov said, “Everyone at Warner Bros. joins me in congratulating the cast and filmmakers who have made another worthy addition to the amazing Harry Potter film franchise and are already hard at work on the next film.”

    Producer David Heyman said, “We are so grateful to Jo Rowling, whose books are the foundation of our success. We share this with our remarkable team – director, writer, cast and crew – with whom I am privileged to work every day and whose ambition for the films never ceases to amaze me

    Thanks also to our friends at Warner Bros. and especially to our countless Harry Potter fans around the world for their support.”

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