Gangs of Wasseypur trailers (updated)
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SATYAMSHOT 
May 3, 2012 at 8:55 AM
Good stuff. Bajpai looks in pretty good form here!
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May 3, 2012 at 8:58 AM
Good trailer though I think a shorter one might have been more effective. The shots in the opening seconds are super (even if ‘iconic’.. the chimneys for example), there are a few more sprinkled throughout the trailer which a more compressed segment would have better brought out. It’s a film I’m interested in mostly for the ‘aesthetics’ and of course Bajpai but otherwise one gets the sense that this terrain has just been visited too many times for anyone to be able to make it fresh.
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June 6, 2012 at 9:00 PM
What movies have visited this ‘terrain’ according to you? According to me this terrain has been left out of the Bombay film industry, thanks to that half of India’s population that lives there does not give a rat’s ass to the Bombay film makers anymore.
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June 6, 2012 at 9:03 PM
or by terrain you meant the genre of gangster films?
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June 6, 2012 at 10:31 PM
meant the genre but also the terrain. It’s quite true that this representation has been left out of Bombay cinema. I have talked about this many times. At the same time I don’t like this by now cliched ‘anthropological’ take on UP or Bihar life or whatever it happens to be where every time you make a film in these parts certain gestures are evident. Including the conceit that somehow there ought to be a hard-hitting realism to these depictions, a kind of rawness to everything. There’s nothing wrong with this on its own but when it’s a group of films it becomes problematic. there are some films that buck this trend but not enough of them. And it then becomes the inverse of the Karan Johar universe or they confirm each other’s ghettoization. Why can’t there be a normal film on such terrain? Why does it always have to be about gangsters or police violence or kidnappings and so on? I know what’s in the news but these films can incorporate the reality of many of those parts without being fellow-sensationalists in the same journalistic project. Here the example of Tamil new wave cinema is very revealing. They have all kinds of stories in comparably rooted settings and so ‘small town’ or ‘downmarket’ doesn’t automatically become a stale set of themes.
This isn’t a very strong objection though when it comes to GOW. And individually I do like many of the films I am criticizing as a group. But as always I am not just interested in what is literally happening in the film but the larger narrative it feeds. Karan Johar is not at all disturbed by these representations. This is the reason he stays away from them! It confirms his sense of India in various ways or the India he has to be in flight from. I would however like to see a film for a change that problematizes his sense of this India. So far though it’s mostly operated on his turf. which is to say that these films despite their best intentions confirm the bourgeois complacency of India’s contemporary upwardly mobile (urban) classes. This is why many of these directors are so lionized. They might be doing interesting work but they don’t seriously offend anyone.
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June 6, 2012 at 10:38 PM
of course note how on the other side the audiences who are represented this way also don’t really embrace these films! This should make us think as well.
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June 7, 2012 at 1:31 PM
I think you are clubbing a lot of bad movies together with some real good ones and arriving at this conclusion.
Being from the same milieu I can say that the closest representation of some realistic sense of that region has to be Haasil. Omkara as well but people who are from the region would know Western UP and Eastern UP-Bihar are two completely different settings.
To some extent Kabir Kaushik’s Sehar and Anand Rai’s Tanu weds Manu maybe.
I don’t include Dabang simply because remove some quirky characters and scenes and that was a story that could have fit in any milieu according to me.
Regarding movies like Ishqzaade, Bunty aur Babli they are more of a sham where they tell some stupid stories set in that region so that they can show the Bhaiyas talking in their funny accent and capitalize on it. Typical Yashraj as we know.
Apart from Haasil and Sehar haven’t seen a movie that really captures the essential conflict of strongmen of the society against the rule of the law that happens there.
Why do I want those stories to be told? Simply because they will result in some excellent cinema as the stories are spectacular in nature. Believe me, almost all major cities of Eastern UP-Northern Bihar have stories which are real but sound completely filmy!
Regarding why only about Lawlessness, because its one of the major part of almost everybody’s lives there. The nexus of studentactivism, politics ,crime and business brings out so many stories that are too tempting not to be told.
And different stories are also being tried, for example Water. One would get more stories of conflict and heroism in the face of odds if one digs deep and not ignores the region altogether.
Atleast AK is trying to tell the story, I know the real events of that region in bits and pieces and its to interesting not to be made part of cinema.
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May 3, 2012 at 9:05 AM
This doesn’t look particularly new. Agree with Satyam there. Some nice moments and dialog but wish this were a bit less enervated than it seems. Still a much awaited film of course.
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May 3, 2012 at 9:13 AM
Have to sadly admit that this isn’t a ‘wow’ trailer, and even the film looks very ‘been-there-done-that’. Kashyap seems to be stuck in a rut, the same brash sexuality, the supposedly shock-value in using profanity casually, quirky violence and punned dialogues.
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May 3, 2012 at 9:19 AM
It Starts with Bang and ends in whimper 😦
may be he is living up2 his own dialogue mouthed by Bajpai ” keh k leenge” 😛
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May 3, 2012 at 9:26 AM
This looks alright, but given the constant references to Godfather, and Anurag’s tweets about how many of his production company’s films are being shown at Cannes and how this is the year that Indian cinema will make an impression internationally, I was expecting something epic, something much more powerful. 😦
BTW- have any of you seen Aranya Kandam? What did you think of it?
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May 3, 2012 at 10:29 AM
No Ami, I haven’t but have wanted to ever since I read Rangan’s blog post on it…
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May 3, 2012 at 11:15 AM
That’s a really spot-on review from Rangan- as always. I agree with a lot of his thoughts but I can’t say I cared for it as much as he did. There is a print of the movie available online- or at least there was one some months ago- if you don’t mind watching films illegally. It’s not subtitled though.
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May 7, 2012 at 1:27 AM
i’m going to try and buy the subtitled DVD (the comment by “Vimal” here suggests one exists).
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May 3, 2012 at 9:30 AM
Don’t disagree with the comments here; definitely the “wow” factor is missing…it looks more like Gulaal part II. But I disagree about the use of profanity in dialogues. There are few directors who can capture the authentic flavours of the heartland as Kashyap can. It’s all very ‘real’ albeit a little overexposed at the moment…
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May 3, 2012 at 9:43 AM
Kashyap fanboys on twitter are already acting as if he has unveiled an instant classic masterpiece- ugh.
Well- looking at the positive side- I suppose that a gritty movie without big stars is getting hyped is a good thing.
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May 3, 2012 at 10:29 AM
Bloody jabardast!
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May 3, 2012 at 10:43 AM
Guess you guys are being a little too harsh already. the trailer most probably is meant to give a peek into what the film is mostly about. Im positive it has otherwise a lot more to offer, considering Kashyap’s abilities as a filmmaker.
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May 3, 2012 at 11:08 AM
I was reacting more to the undeservedly hysterical reception that this trailer has received on twitter than to the trailer itself to be honest. And I loved Gulaal- but this trailer looks far less visually compelling that the Gulaal trailer.
I do think that there is a chance that Kashyap could surprise us very pleasantly- hopefully that happens.
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May 3, 2012 at 11:13 AM
Blame the reception on how measly the number of quality films are made here. Guess the online public isnt at fault when we’ve got hardly anything till the first half of 2012
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May 3, 2012 at 11:17 AM
True. But the Kashyap fanboy brigade are hardly deprived of quality entertainment- they are world cinema buffs. Then again- maybe that just makes them all the more desperate to see quality Indian films being made- and willing to cheer on any sincere effort.
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May 3, 2012 at 11:19 AM
You answered my question yourself! 😛
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May 3, 2012 at 11:20 AM
But if Kashyap is very good at something, then it has to be the ‘art of surprising the audience’.It happened with black friday, with No Smoking and with Dev D. and i am not taking Paanch into account. btw Ami have u seen Paanch? and I highly recommend ‘Last train to mahakali'(i and tony had a discussion over it once)- a Kashyap directed telefilm which was a part of Star Bestsellers- one of a kind and not to be missed-stars Kay Kay Menon- it’s available on youtube
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May 3, 2012 at 11:27 AM
I haven’t seen Paanch- will watch Last Train To Mahakali- wasn’t aware of it- thank you form pointing it out. My rating of Kashyap films goes like this:
Powerful and intelligent- Black Friday
Brilliant but flawed- Gulaal
Interesting but self-indulgent- Dev.D
WTF? but fun- No Smoking
Trite, cliched and Sordid- That Girl In Yellow Boots
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May 3, 2012 at 11:29 AM
Ur ratings are spot on (though I like No smoking, sort of see myself in the characater of the lead). though i have not seen That Girl. Btw u missed ‘Hanuman Returns’- i quite liked it
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May 3, 2012 at 11:38 AM
I liked No Smoking too- it was fun – but not the tortured surrealist masterpiece that I think Kashyap intended it to be. I haven’t watched Hanuman- BTW- you should watch Sita Sings the Blues- it’s fantastic. It’s an unorthodox retelling of the Ramayan though- so only watch it if you’re not easily offended.
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May 3, 2012 at 10:54 AM
I’m willing to give Kashyap the benefit of the doubt. But given how he’s been talking about this film having a very long running time, one expected a more arresting trailer, or at least one that couldn’t be confused with a number of other films in the same genre including ones Kashyap has made himself. Parts of this, as Saket astutely pointed out, looks like Gulaal Part 2.
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May 3, 2012 at 11:02 AM
Probably the marketing team showed more of an audience-friendly trailer – raw look and profanity and cool dialogues and stuff..
Might be a tad underwhelming for some who were expecting the moon from this but one shouldnt exactly blame Kashyap unless having watched the film.
Anyways, this film also marks the acting debut of Tigmanshu Dhulia.
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May 3, 2012 at 11:11 AM
Yes, Tony I second your opinion here. Kashyap looks in fine form here. Kashyap played the role of Bunty Bhaiya (he was deliciously entertaining here, the character was a spoof of famous U.P. politician Raja Bhaiya) in Dhulia’s Shagird, so I guess we have come to a full circle here. Also quite a few directors have acted in films- Kashyap in Shagird and I Am, Sudhir Mishra in Traffic Signal, Nishikant Kamath in 404: Error Not Found, Apoorva Lakhia in Knock Out
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May 3, 2012 at 11:17 AM
…..Subhash Ghai in all his films.
Sorry that was an audience – ‘fiendly’ joke.. 😛
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June 6, 2012 at 11:51 AM
And Imtiaz Ali in Black Friday as Yakook Memon.
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May 3, 2012 at 11:32 AM
Folks :admit to like anurag kashyap films a lot
Infact am yet to find any of his efforts subpar till now and some of them hae been overwhelming as well
Infact loved ‘no smoking’ as well 🙂
Plan to see ‘girl with yellow boobs’ soon
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May 3, 2012 at 11:36 AM
Its boots* Alex.
Saurabh bhaiya, gattu kahan gayab ho gaye.. dikhayi hi nahi de rahe..
Btw do watch Apartment (1960) those who havent
surprised at how blatantly Life in A metro borrowed from this one (even some of the dialogues were direct lifts and translated in hindi) .. still charming enough and Shirley McLaine is very cute 🙂
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May 3, 2012 at 11:39 AM
Thanx tony -yes ‘boots’
Oops : that was a typo folks (as usual)
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May 3, 2012 at 11:42 AM
I’ll also count Paanch as one of Kashyap’s best efforts – considering the era which he wanted to release in (we still hadn’t seen the new millennium till then), it deserved a standing ovation. It was a pity that the film didnt witness a release and neither got its due, but it introduced me to the world of Kashyap – very dark, gritty and pessimistic. but he has a knack of extracting sense from an amoral, soulless world he creates around his quirky characters.
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May 3, 2012 at 11:44 AM
tony bhai, type ‘gattu’ in the search box- u will find it. otherwise there is also sumthing on ‘idea ads’ thread. and if u liked apartment, do see ‘some like it hot’- bahot hi bejod film hai- the best hwood comedy i have ever seen alongwith ‘the general’
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May 3, 2012 at 11:47 AM
thanks saurabh.
yes, i have Some Like it Hot on my system but have watched it only in bits n parts. That chain-pulling sequence in train had me in splits. Would love to watch it at length now, especially after having properly witnessed Lemmon’s comic timing..
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May 4, 2012 at 8:11 AM
Some like it Hot hindi remake is Rafoo Chakkar, Rishi and Paintal…
Some like it hot is worth coz of Marilyn Monroe 🙂
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May 3, 2012 at 11:44 AM
For Gulaal fans:
Oh re Bismil kaash aate aaj tum Hindustaan…
Dekhte ki mulk saara kya tashan, kya tashan mehfil mein hai..
Aaj ka launda yeh kehta hum to bismil thak gaye…
Apni aazaadi to bhaiya laundiya ke til mein hai.
Aaj ke jalson me Bismil ek gunga gaa raha…
Aur behron ka wo rela naachta mehfil mein hai
Haath ki khadi banaane ka zamaana lag gaya…
Aaj to chaddi bhi silti englison ki mill mein hai
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May 3, 2012 at 11:48 AM
Haha gud one tony
Though pray translate
Whateva said n done
Kashyap remains one of the most interesting makers in the subcontinent
I don’t care about finding trivialities in his work or temperament for the sale f it
More kashyaps are needed
Ps -how is ‘yellow girl boots’
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May 3, 2012 at 11:52 AM
TGIYB is pretty bad- Kashyap’s weakest film- very cliched and lifeless- it doesn’t bear any evidence of his trademark style- only watch it if you’re a Kalki fan- she puts in a solid performance- and she also wrote the script.
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May 3, 2012 at 12:17 PM
its something like:
Oh Bismil, wish u were here to see what the nation has come to..
U must have seen how relaxed people here are
Guys now say – we have grown tired Bismil..
Our freedom lies in a girl’s mole..
Bismil has become dumb in today’s materilastic world
And a rally of deafs dances in gatherings
The days of manufacturing wrist-watches are long gone..
Today even an underwear is woven in English mills
(sorry.. bad in translating)
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May 3, 2012 at 1:50 PM
“Our freedom lies in a girl’s mole..”
That’s hilarious
There seems a ‘deeper’ meaning here 🙂
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May 3, 2012 at 2:14 PM
alex, this is for u-opening dialogue from omkara-langda tyagi to rajjo(deepak dobriyal) admonishing him for still remaining a virgin- “bevkoof aur chu*iye me dhaage bhar ka farak hota hai bhaiya. dhaaga haincho to bevkoof kaun aur chu*iya kaun, ye to laakh rupaiye ka prashn hai bhiaya.tu to bevkoof hai na. translation- a fine ‘thread'(the hymen) separates the fool from the fukcer. once u snap the thread, now who becums the fool and who the fukcer, is a million-dollar question. i hope u r a fool,aren’t u’
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May 3, 2012 at 2:20 PM
Hahaha
That’s a cunning one
Thanx for the ‘education’
Btw not a big fan of omkara or ‘langda tyagi’
Some times have never really enjoyed Bhardwaj
Beyond a point
Have tried watching Kareenas few times but the moment one sees two of shahid kapoor, one feels -heck, what’s the point
Btw this omkara dialogue taught me a lot of ‘technicality’ 🙂
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May 3, 2012 at 11:54 AM
lovely lines- and sum more “Palchin mein baaten chali jaati hai hai,
Palchin mein raaten chali jaati hai hai,
Reh jaata hai jo sawera wo dhoondhe,
Jalta makaan mein basera wo dhoondhe,
Jaisi bachi hai waisi ki waisi, bacha lo yeh duniya,
Apna samajh ke apno ki jaisi utha lo yeh duniya,
Chitput si baaton mein jalne lagegi, sambhalo yeh duniya,
Katpit ke raaton mein palne lagegi, sambhalo yeh duniya,
Oh ri duniya, oh ri duniya, wo kahen hai ki duniya,”( a tribute to ‘yeh duniya agar mil bhi jaay’ from’pyaasa’
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May 3, 2012 at 11:57 AM
Wow
Minor are these your lines?
Now translate into ‘Normal’ lingo ha
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May 3, 2012 at 12:08 PM
alex not my lines, these r from gulaal. but sumtimes u do write stuff in hindi like this(when i am in my ‘trip’ of ‘ecstacy’ and in a psychedelic kinda mood…lol).
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May 3, 2012 at 12:02 PM
a rock song in paanch-“Ye sahi hai, ye galat, meri maano, socho mat. Ye na pehno, woh na bolo, ho sake toh munh na kholo.Ye pado mat, woh suno mat, main chununga, tum chuno mat. Kat-te jaao, mit-te jaao,dabna seekho, dabte jaao. Bas ab aur nahin, ab aur nahin, aur nahin, ab aur nahin. Bas aur nahin, ab aur nahin(Aur nahin, ab aur nahin, bas aur nahin, ab aur nahinAur nahin, ab aur nahin, bas aur nahin)Saans lo, dum bharo, chillaakar, sab se kahoSar jhuka! khuda hoon main! Main khuda⦠hoon khudaâ¦-2
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May 3, 2012 at 12:30 PM
Good trailer and signs of an authentic soundtrack. Nice to see Tigmanshu Dhulia showing his acting chops. Looking forward to this one.
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May 3, 2012 at 1:07 PM
Jiya ho bihar k laal… maza aa gaeel ba kasam se… I really liked the trailor… Although i admit I have soft corner for movies made on crime life of eastern UP and Bihar…
Loved the last scene… “Dekho to mantri ji kya kha k aaye hain”
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May 3, 2012 at 1:48 PM
So minor -after all that ‘poetry’
Come down to earth 🙂
What’s your vote-folks
Deepika or Amy
http://idiva.com/photogallery-style-beauty/vote-deepika-vs-amy-on-may-mag-covers/12466
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May 3, 2012 at 2:02 PM
alex, if the criteria ‘minimum time lag in setting the hormones racing’- ‘deepika’ wins this one hands down.but i found the chitrangada one better.i’m quite a fan of her
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May 3, 2012 at 2:23 PM
Hmmm
Actually I’ve chosen this pic carefully
Agree that me needs to give deepika some credit here
Very recently I’ve suddenly woken up somewhat to her ‘flexibility’
And a certain ‘fluid’ persona
Btw saw aarakshan recently –deepika can act -she’s not a non-actor and she can behave v ‘ Indian’ as well when she wants
So what are your views on
(she’s nowhere near the best here)
http://idiva.com/photogallery-style-beauty/vote-deepika-vs-amy-on-may-mag-covers/12466/6
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May 3, 2012 at 2:29 PM
alex, ur nargis fakhri has upstaged everyone here. uff, she is looking HOT here. actually she has done a Nadia Comaneci here- perfect 10 on 10
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May 3, 2012 at 2:40 PM
This is quintessential RGV-“Knowledge is to know that a snake contains poison; intelligence is to figure out what the poison contains and how it can kill you. Genius is to create an anti venom. Wisdom is to know all this but yet not to fuck around with the snake just in case the first three go wrong.”
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May 3, 2012 at 2:43 PM
Haha
I have gr8 ‘respect’ for rgv
Like the guy
He currently seems to be (more than) filming nathalia kaur
Ps-actually I also like these ‘auditions’ a lot
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May 3, 2012 at 2:40 PM
Haha Minor
U have ‘passed’ now 🙂
Btw who’s gone ‘traditional’ here
http://www.bollywoodlife.com/pics/nargis-fakhri-at-the-launch-of-a-jewellery-store/
And check out this song from Satyams favourite star
This song is somewhat groovy
And this esha ‘clotheshorse’ Gupta-is she ‘natural’
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May 3, 2012 at 2:51 PM
well, nargis seems a bit misfit here in the traditional look.yes, the number is groovy but these days pritam is cuming with one ‘uninspired'(pun intended) number after another.i believe esha is ‘natural’ in every sense(though our Ami may be knowing better as she has met her).but the big question arises- is esha as ‘natural’ as Ayesha?
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May 3, 2012 at 2:59 PM
But nargis f looked quite good in the ‘Kashmir’ look in rockstar
Taking about Kashmir look–
By popular demand
It’s not only about dimple
I rate this THE most interesting still image I’ve seen from Bollywood recently
Check out this masterful image minor
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May 3, 2012 at 3:18 PM
thanks for the pic. dimple looks ethereal here. i wonder what happened to muzaffar ali’s dimple and VK starrer zooni. btw dimple also looks rather mysterious in gulzar’s ‘lekin’.and my fav performance of her is in mahesh bhatt’s fabulous film ‘kaash’- it should be a must watch for all the lachryomose cine-goers. and this film also has jackie shroff at his best. a bhatt classic. also has a soulful song ‘chhoti se hai baat’
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May 3, 2012 at 3:22 PM
Yes
But this zooni pic is more than just about dimple
Like the setting and ambience
The ‘out of focus’ camera which still captures enuf detail to show young curious Kashmiri adolescents ogling curiously at this ‘spectacle’
Ps-loved ‘lekin’- a recent discovery and not only bcos of dimple
Have a certain weakness of the ‘mature” dimple
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May 3, 2012 at 2:55 PM
btw we r going to see a lot of esha gupta in coming days. she has bagged prakash jha’s next ‘chakravyuh’ which also stars abhay deol,bajpai and arjun rampal. and she will be seen alonside bips and hashmi in ‘raaz 3’
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May 3, 2012 at 2:55 PM
Oh: so Amy may have met esha Gupta
But don’t think she would have ‘tested’ esha (and vice versa)
Hahaha
And btw why is Amy seeing gals and ‘testing them’
So Amy -what’s your ‘report’
Ps–in one or two shots here, esha seems she has come ‘well prepared’
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May 3, 2012 at 3:10 PM
alex, to comment abt about ami’s tastes here, i will put this often used quote by our maestro Satyam-“in these matters, i often tend to swing both ways.”….LOL (sorry ami and satyam, was just kidding)
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May 3, 2012 at 3:19 PM
Haha
Well, Amy may get angry at that comment
Ne shouldnt comment on her ‘preferences’
No wonder she has suddenly gone ‘quiet’
Relax Amy -just ‘pulling your leg’
Ps-No wonder she was ‘admiring’ esha Gupta and nargis f etc
Hope Amy is not getting some ‘practical tips’ and ‘recommendations’ from her ‘friend ‘esha Gupta
As for Satyam, it’s a ‘known fact’
Anyhow a nice film
http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2012/may/03/goodbye-first-love-review
A rare situation where I like e director more than the actress
Like Mia Hansen
http://www.guardian.co.uk/theobserver/2012/apr/29/mia-hansen-love-french-director
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May 3, 2012 at 8:01 PM
LOL! Not angry- I met her in Goa at a big party with tons of other people- I hardly interacted with her. But Saurabh seems to be attracted to anybody who is unnaturally endowed- first Ayesha and now Esha. Google earlier pictures of her to see what I mean- and it’s pretty obvious from the song too. She is extremely pretty though.
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May 3, 2012 at 8:08 PM
hey, Ami i am not a pervert yaar 🙂 not interested in esha at all. with ayesha, to be true her cuteness was the major reason, endowments came later.
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May 3, 2012 at 8:10 PM
I was just joking Saurabh. Although your conversation with Alex is pretty pervy here. 😛
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May 3, 2012 at 8:16 PM
i know. well we missed u during our ‘cerebral discussions’. and look alex was asking me questions, i was simply replying, so i’m innocent 🙂 anyway i assume from ur wordly-wise comments that u must be in ur late 20s. btw what course r u studying in england? masters in english literature? (or in ‘women empowerment’…lol)
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May 3, 2012 at 8:19 PM
Not in my late 20s- I’m still doing my undergraduate degree! And why do you think I’m studying literature? LOL! I’m studying Politics and Economics.
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May 3, 2012 at 8:24 PM
oh, thank devil that there is sumone on the blog who is of my age. well ur proficiency in the english language made me presume so. and now u r back to french high-intellect cinema stuff. haven’t even heard the names of these actors. atleast people like u r teaching me sumthing 🙂
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May 3, 2012 at 9:20 PM
Not all of French cinema is high-intellect- the 2 films I mentioned are actually rather frothy. 🙂
BTW- have you seen the South Korean suspense thriller ‘Mother’? It’s a fantastic film- I think you’ll really like it.
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May 3, 2012 at 9:23 PM
http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100324/REVIEWS/100329996/1023
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May 3, 2012 at 9:25 PM
i will try and check out “mother”. thanks for the recco. btw have u seen the korean film “oldboy” and others of the vengeance trilogy. i luved oldboy
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May 3, 2012 at 9:30 PM
I haven’t seen Oldboy- one of my flatmates who is Chinese and an avid Asian film buff has the entire trilogy on DVD- I should watch it sometime.
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May 3, 2012 at 9:37 PM
it’s a damn good film. but u should not that it is very violent and some of the stuff(like forced incest) make shake u up. and btw my roomie in school was a tamilian but he hardly saw any tamil films.btw by any chance did u study in those high class “wi-fi” schools which r popular down south in places like bangalore? ur english and tastes in things r making me think that way.
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May 3, 2012 at 9:37 PM
it’s a damn good film. but u should know that it is very violent and some of the stuff(like forced incest) make shake u up. and btw my roomie in school was a tamilian but he hardly saw any tamil films.btw by any chance did u study in those high class “wi-fi” schools which r popular down south in places like bangalore? ur english and tastes in things r making me think that way.
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May 3, 2012 at 9:41 PM
What’s a ‘wifi’ school? 😛 I studied the IB at an International School, but in Chennai not Bangalore.
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May 3, 2012 at 9:45 PM
And I hardly watch any Tamil films too- most of my friends think that South cinema is beneath their dignity- so I never really had anybody to watch those films with and I wasnt too itnerseted. But some of my classmates at school were the children of Kollywood actors and directors so I used to watched their films- and sometimes I still do when I go home and meet them.
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May 3, 2012 at 9:48 PM
i read sumwhere that this was the term that they had given for the IB international schools(btw i have seen some of those ‘theory of knowledge’ stuff which u guys have, though i studied in ICSE board). my sister is also planning to join one of these international schools, either in delhi or bangalore
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May 3, 2012 at 9:53 PM
LOL! I guess it’s because most international schools have wifi on campus? 😛 And nice to know that your sister wants to do the IB- TISB in Bangalore and UWC in Pune are the best- The British School in Delhi is good- but it’s A Levels. And BTW isn’t Doon a very ‘high class’ school?
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May 3, 2012 at 9:55 PM
u studied with children with kollywood actors and directors- awesome shit! i too studied with naseer’s son and sons of political families and writers,authors etc but no other other actor or director’s son. u must have had quite a ‘cinematic experience’ in school.
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May 3, 2012 at 10:01 PM
It wasn’t that awesome or cinematic actually. Mani Ratnam’s son studied with us- and he was extremely intelligent, articulate, sophisticated etc as you would expect- but most Kollywood personalities are very crude as are their children. 😛
Kollywood isn’t at all ‘glamorous’ in the Hollywood way- like Bollywood tries to be. And most of the students at my school were from Europe or South Korea/ Japan- so they didn’t really know who the actors children were- and no one treated them as star kids- it was wry normal- nothing cinematic or glitzy.
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May 3, 2012 at 10:03 PM
and no Doon is not a high-class school,esp when compared to these international schools. yes, there r rich kids coming but then we all were made to live in simple (and quite hard) conditions. there r no ACs and 4 guys shared a room. every friggin morning we had to run 5 km like a dog. i am not saying it was a military boot camp but yes it was tough. and the ragging there itself is stuff of legends(it’s that bad).btw IB came in the school the year i passed out.
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May 3, 2012 at 10:13 PM
WOW! Ragging at school? I thought it only happened at University? We did have to take a compulsory physical education course which was quite tough- you had to be able to do a certain number of pushups, run a certain distance within one minute, swim a certain number of laps etc to pass the fitness tests- but not at 5 a.m.- and no ragging for sure- and we had to have an air-conditioned campus because most students were foreigners who weren’t used to the heat. It wasn’t a boarding school though.
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May 3, 2012 at 10:23 PM
“wow! ragging in school”- ami, if i will tell u abt the ways we have been ragged, u would not believe(and anyway girls r not supposed to know this). and on pushups, i will tell u sumting. our basic punishment, which seniors used to give us every 2nd day just for fun, was to take up that push-up position(on ‘shingle paths’) not on our ‘palms’ but on our ‘knuckles’ which graduated to doing the same on our ‘elbows’ and maintaining the position for half an hour. and this was just basic stuff
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May 3, 2012 at 10:32 PM
That sounds TERRIBLE! 😦 Do you have ragging at your medical college as well? BTW do the girls get ragged by the seniors at college as well- or by the other girls?
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May 3, 2012 at 10:40 PM
well in college initially there was ragging but having gone thru so much, it was child’s play for me(they told me come up all kinds of hindi abuses- that was their extreme). and yes girls r also ragged and girls rag boys too(which was slightly uncomfortable for me bcos girls rag boys in ways which can’t be told here).but ragging lasted just for a month.
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May 3, 2012 at 11:31 PM
Liked mother when I saw..
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May 4, 2012 at 8:16 AM
@Ami
“Mother” is good, but its not a patch on “Memories of Murder” another Korean classic and one of the best and most talked about “Open ending” … MoM is also based on True incidents.
Some korean movies are too good.. If You are into korean movies than I can recco few more 🙂
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May 3, 2012 at 8:16 PM
Alex- What do you think about Charlotte Gainsborough? I really liked her in My Wife is an Actress and in I Do/ Rent A Wife opposite Alain Chabat. Have you seen either film? They’re both good, lighthearted fun.
BTW- speaking of ‘natural’- one thing I admire about French actresses is that they are usually very normal looking and individualistic- effortlessly pretty/ chic- sort of the opposite of Bollywood.
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May 4, 2012 at 4:09 AM
“BTW- speaking of ‘natural’- one thing I admire about French actresses is that they are usually very normal looking and individualistic- effortlessly pretty/ chic- sort of the opposite of Bollywood.”
Agree entirely Amy
What a comment there
In one sentence u have summarised what I always feel about this
A case in point -Melanie Laurent, Binoche
Even the goings crop
Almost any french female student is actually quite a film worthy proposition
Yes really like Charlotte gainsbourg
Ps-do tell us about the(rave) ‘goa party’ 🙂
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May 3, 2012 at 3:12 PM
The opening Omkara lines screamed Tarantino. Probably Bhardwaj’s ode to the filmmaker. remind me of Reservoir Dogs’ opening sequence:
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May 3, 2012 at 3:26 PM
tony bro, what an observation! superb.tarantino at his ‘ribald’ best. and i love the tune being played in the bg. and no one does torture-porn better than tarantino-the ear-slicing scene. by the way do check out this hong-kong film ‘city on fire’ (which starred my fav chow yun-fat) from where tarantino borrowed the famous ‘mexican standoff’ scene. and btw, i loved kaante. to be truthful at paces found it better than RV
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May 3, 2012 at 3:30 PM
bro,
have heard about City on Fire being a major inspiration for RD. But dont insult RD by comparing it to Sanjay Gupta’s in your-face pretentious film Kaante. It was intermittently enjoyable but it was savage the way he raped Kaante..
Have a soft corner for Tarantino films .. cant help it 😛
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May 3, 2012 at 3:31 PM
*raped Reservoir Dogs, I meant
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May 3, 2012 at 3:36 PM
I preferred kaante as well
And yes
Really liked the blokes bunch there
The dialogues were razor sharp
Don’t think Sanjay gupta will create anything remotely close to this
Be of my ‘hidden loves’
Kaante
Major-will u keep barking or do something as well ??
Everyone was goddamm good in it
Loved dutt, amitabh and lucky Ali -all three favourites
Heck-manjrekar was very good here
And blimey– even the likes of Sunil shetty and Kumar gaurav were good
Don’t care a damn
Fcuk Tarantino or his dad
Loved kaante
I’m surprised how this film has been neglected
A song I adore (& not bcos of the obvious reasons)
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May 3, 2012 at 3:52 PM
Kaante time now
The ‘guys’ film I loved
Infact watched it more than twice!!
Have no qualms in admitting that it trumped reservoir dogs for me!!
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May 3, 2012 at 4:00 PM
Not the only v good scene here
check out the amitabh-dutt ‘confrontation’ and the ‘suspicious’ vibe
I’m surprised how someone in mainstream Bollywood made this film!!!
And to top it-someone like Sanjay Gupta
But as they say-Something ‘stuff’ happens
To me, kaante is somewhat of a modern ‘cult’ bollywood film which didint get its due
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May 3, 2012 at 4:20 PM
Actually on a cursory look, this film does look a ‘wannabe’ take n stuff with bollywood heroes strutting around in the streets of LA
But actually, here they pulled off this remake brilliantly, I feel
But i know quite a few who like tony find it wannabe and pretentious
I liked it a lot
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May 3, 2012 at 3:56 PM
sorry, but cannot appreciate anything that’s blatantly copied..
that major dialogue was a direct lift from Michael Madsen’s ‘are you gonna bark all day lil doggie, or are you gonna bite’
I adored Zinda too, before watching the superb Oldboy. all of a sudden, lost all bits of respect for Gupta..
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May 3, 2012 at 4:05 PM
Well, we all know it was a direct lift and stuff
But the way- this film maintained a certain ‘grip’ throughout and the way it was ‘indianised’ ( though the setting was LA)
The dialogue was cleverly converted to Hindi by a kid milap zaveri
Have felt strongly about this film-just loved it unconditionally
And yes-most won’t share my affection here
But again that’s fine
I enjoyed even the stammer of manjrekar
Everyone was rightly cast, even Shetty and bloody even Kumar gaurav looked apt!!
And lucky alis casting was ace
And about amitabh and dutt nothing needs to be added
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May 3, 2012 at 4:12 PM
A couple of scenes in Kaante did stand out.
But even otherwise, it was a disjointed film that was trying too hard to be cool.
Gupta tried to mix too many things in there – terrible cliche of a dying wife, an unfortunate gangster who cant get his bar dancer girlfriend to leave her work (WTF), unnecessary item numbers, and way too many experiments with shot selections and use of colours. It was a pain watching the movie at most times.
Yes, some quirky dialogues worked because of competent performances from Dutt and Amitabh and to some extent Manjrekar but Gupta overdid the cool factor. Certainly a film that doesnt hold a shadow against Reservoir Dogs
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May 3, 2012 at 4:13 PM
There was a certain ‘hook’ in that dialogue
The same dialogue stated in a Bollywood context and to an amitabh who was possibly the most respected actor of that time..
Well that’s only one example
Think the tracks of all the guys was adeptly handled
Copying hollywood stuff into Bollywood is actually not that easy.
There are certain ‘no-go zones’ and certain ‘essentials’ needed.
Yes there was too much of RD Here (as expected)
But the film did chart its own unique course and character graph, as only a Bollywood film should
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May 3, 2012 at 4:29 PM
“Copying hollywood stuff into Bollywood is actually not that easy”
— and so is coming up with something original. I’d say Gupta’s biggest failure was taking a great concept and ruining the essence of the former. the least he could do, even after lifting it was to adapt it into an Indian context. would probably have somewhat appreciated the effort. Gupta still decided to shoot the entire film in the States and give it a, like I say, wannabe feel – men in tuxedos and women in skimpy clothes. The entire thing was a farce.
anyways, Hollywood studios have set up base in India. that best explains why Gupta hasnt come up with a film ever since.. fears of plagiarism, perhaps! 😛
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May 3, 2012 at 4:38 PM
tony, u r right on plagiarism. and oldboy is not only better than zinda(though i luved this also and dutt’s act here is better than the korean lead) but it is one of the finest films to have come out from anywhere(it’s my fav among ‘the vengeance triology’).butt we have to give to gupta for his style and treatment. his musafir is far better than sean penn’s “U-turn” imo.btw his best film remains ‘aatish’ which is inspired from john woo- yun-fat legendary film “a better tomorrow”(which i saw 15 times)
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May 3, 2012 at 3:30 PM
An average French film is more intuitive, riveting and instinctive than the counterparts from across the atlantic (or the channel)
Perhaps one of the best female young directors in the world IMO
A very intelligent young director
Mia Hansen love
Something for the likes of Amy 🙂
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May 3, 2012 at 4:31 PM
agreed with alex on kaante. btw look at certain dialogues from kaante- classy double-entendres-Ajju(dutt)-“taqdeer tera bistar garam garam karna chahti hai aur tu hai ki roj sofe pe sota hai.” and this one is my fav- “jab teri chhamiya naachti hai to mera BABURAO(u know what) bhi naachta hai.-friggin’ funny. and manjrekar’s scene with the tied-up cop is better than the one in RV imo.and alex kumar gaurav is always a competent actor-check him out in janam,naam and love story and u will get my point
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May 3, 2012 at 4:37 PM
nooo 😦
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May 3, 2012 at 4:42 PM
Minor-u really seem to be ‘cuming of age’ 🙂
Lol@ ‘babu rAo’
When minor leads like Kumar gaurav and even wooden shetty start ’emoting’, one knows something’s working …
Essentially this is a blokes film
So not surprised some haven’t really taken to it
Interestingly Satyam also seems quite ‘tepid’ about it lol
And now something for the fast ‘growing in taste’ minor
The lethal dutt who creamed his counterparts from reservoir dogs and made em look like ‘dogs’ 🙂
Enjoy minor
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May 3, 2012 at 4:45 PM
And minor: the moral of the story is that if u really like something (like kaante here or dutt elsewhere)
Shout it out
Don’t care a damn 🙂
And yes-check out dutt @ 0.10 asking the ‘hesitant’ Kumar gaurav to come on in
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May 3, 2012 at 4:56 PM
alex, i can’t thank u enough for these 2 scenes. and lemme tell u, after bachchan, dutt is my fav actor in bwood, period. he swallowed hrithik in “mission kasmir’ and mind u even hrithik was very good there. he ate up both salman and madhuri in saajan and chewed up sridevi in gumraah even when he was in a supporting role. and alex, if u really want to see dutt act, check out his ‘kabzaa’ from 80’s- a terrific film by bhatt
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May 3, 2012 at 4:45 PM
Anyways – my two cents:
Having worked in a profile somewhat related to media industry (content management FTW), I am kinda aware of what impact plagiarism of any sort could have on the source – whether it’s a published story / novel or a movie / an idea. Not giving credit to source where its due but making money out of someone else’s ihard work / creativity is one of the most unethical and immoral activities one can get involved into. Being inspirational is one thing but then you can always tell the difference between the two.
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May 3, 2012 at 5:05 PM
tony, i agree with every bit abt what u r saying here. and because u work in ‘copywriting business’, u r the best guy to speak abt these matters(btw i was shocked when that kaavya vishwanathan plagiarism case happened).and gupta is a chor, no one denies that but so r a lot of others. btw have u seen ‘4 rooms’- where tarantino one segment. also in one of my fav films ever, the frank miller comic adaptation ‘sin city’,quentin directed a sequence for rodriguez- on where clive owen and del toro r sitting in car
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May 3, 2012 at 5:11 PM
Dude, do you have the link to the Four Rooms segment or anythin? havent seen it coz couldnt find it anywhere..
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May 3, 2012 at 5:18 PM
sorry brother, don’t have a link. i saw it way back on a school friend’s i-pod. btw the taranatino waala segment is the weakest sadly. btw another brilliant film which quentin wrote was ‘natural born killers’ but sadly it went into the hands of oliver stone and lost much of its sheen.but still worth watching and woody harrelson is flat out terrific here
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May 3, 2012 at 4:46 PM
ok, i am trying to reproduce these dialogues from my memory so there may be errorsfrom “musafir”- musa(dutt again)-“Abbey saale, taqdeer teri chhutti par hain, maut tere sar pe hai, Lekin baatein aisi karta hai, jaise zindagi tere bistar pe hai”- luv sanju here and his mannerisms in ‘tez dhaar’
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May 3, 2012 at 5:04 PM
Haha enjoyed that dialogue minor
And c’mon tony-to heck with ‘copyright’ n ‘royalty’
🙂
I love plagiarism
I’m back into the kaante mood
Just got a few kaante-isms from google
“sawaal yeh nahi hai ki bar mein kitni sharab hai … sawaal yeh hai ki tu kitni pee sakta hai”
The question is not that how much alcohol is there in the bar … the question is that how much can you drink
That’s more like it !
An outlook link
http://www.outlookindia.com/article.aspx?219068
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May 3, 2012 at 5:14 PM
Kaante-isms dont hold water against RDisms.. ab meri baari 🙂
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May 3, 2012 at 5:12 PM
Ok folks
I have this Opening dialogue piece for major which A friend passed onto me before the release of the film (can’t reveal more)
But for the sake of bachchanism and this taut Smooth script of kaante —
From the script of ‘KAANTE’
……………………………….
This is when they meet in jail first time…
……
Major (Amitabh Bachchan)
maine yeh dhandha chod diya tha…socha tha ki chota-mota kam kar
loonga…bevkuf tha jo aisa socha.. agar hum me se koi badalana
chahe bhi na ..yeh hame khabhi badalne nahi denge! hum jitana bura
kam karenge, utna hi achaa yaha ki POLICE ke liye hoga! kahi kisika
gala ktata hai… to pahle yeh hamara gala pakdte hai, kahi koi
chori hoti hai to yeh hamare ghar me talashi lete hai ! ITALY KE
MAFIA ne AMERICA ke har shehar , har galli me apni takat mazboot
ki…THEY CARRY OUT ORGANIZED CRIME. jo itni ORGANIZED hai ki kisi
bhi POLICE OFFICER me himmant nahi ke unke darvaje per dastak de
sake ! COLOMBIANS ne yaha apne CARTEL’S jamaker, apne DRUGS ke
balbute per sare desh ko nashe ki latt laga di. THE ITALIANS HAVE
THAIR MAFIA THE COLOMIANS HAVE THAIR CARTELS THE CHINESE HAVE THAIR
TRIADS…AND WE INDIAN HAVE NOTHING BUT POLICE RECORDS!
kisi aankh ke andhe ne chaar sau METER ki doori se bnola hoga ki
IT WAS AN INDIAN, aur yeh hume pakdke yaha le aaye ! “chaar sau
METER ki doori se to haathi bhi hathoda lagta hai” ! har gunah ka
shehra hamare sar tab tak bandha jayega! jab tak hamare paas itna
paisa nahi hoga ki hum hamari begunahi kharid na shake!
THERE IS SILENCE FOR FEW MOMENTS.
VOICE OVER
MAJOR bolta bahut accha tha- agar parde pe bolta to OSCAR milta-
yaha bola , goli mili !!!!!
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May 3, 2012 at 5:27 PM
“i wouldn’t enjoy naam”- i have a poster of ‘naam’ and ‘don’ stuck in my room alongwith one of azhar. the last chase scene in naam, during the entire chase both gaurav and dutt remain completely silent(which is surprising for a chase scene)- this ‘eerie scene’ itself tells us that dutt’s fate is decided. a brilliant scene
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May 3, 2012 at 5:16 PM
Nice Guy Eddie: C’mon, throw in a buck!
Mr. Pink: Uh-uh, I don’t tip.
Nice Guy Eddie: You don’t tip?
Mr. Pink: I don’t believe in it.
Nice Guy Eddie: You don’t believe in tipping?
Mr. Blue: You know what these chicks make? They make shit.
Mr. Pink: Don’t give me that. She don’t make enough money, she can quit.
Nice Guy Eddie: I don’t even know a fucking Jew who’d have the balls to say that. Let me get this straight: you never ever tip, huh?
Mr. Pink: I don’t tip because society says I have to. Alright, I tip when somebody really deserves a tip. If they put forth an effort, I’ll give them something extra. But I mean, this tipping automatically, that’s for the birds. As far as I’m concerned they’re just doing their job.
Mr. Blue: Hey, this girl was nice.
Mr. Pink: She was okay. But she wasn’t anything special.
Mr. Blue: What’s special? Take you in the back and suck your dick?
Nice Guy Eddie: I’d go over twelve percent for that.
Mr. Pink: Look, I ordered coffee, alright? And we been here a long fucking time and she’s only filled my cup three times. When I order coffee I want it filled six times.
Mr. Blonde: Six times? Well, what if she’s too fucking busy?
Mr. Pink: The words “too fucking busy” shouldn’t be in a waitress’s vocabulary.
Nice Guy Eddie: Excuse me Mr. Pink, but the last fucking thing you need is another cup of coffee.
Mr. Pink: Jesus Christ man, these ladies aren’t starving to death. They make minimum wage. You know, I used to work minimum wage and when I did I wasn’t lucky enough to have a job the society deemed tipworthy.
Mr. Blue: You don’t care if they’re counting on your tips to live?
Mr. Pink: [rubbing his middle finger and thumb together] You know what this is? The world’s smallest violin playing just for the waitresses.
Mr. White: You don’t have any idea what you’re talking about. These people bust their ass. This is a hard job.
Mr. Pink: So is working at McDonald’s, but you don’t see anyone tip them, do you? Why not, they’re serving you food. But no, society says don’t tip these guys over here, but tip these guys over here. It’s bullshit!
Mr. White: Waitressing is the number one occupation for female non-college graduates in this country. It’s the one job basically any woman can get, and make a living on. The reason is because of tips.
Mr. Pink: Fuck all that! I’m very sorry the government taxes their tips, that’s fucked up. That ain’t my fault. It would seem to me that waitresses are one of the many groups the government fucks in the ass on a regular basis. Look, if you show me a piece of paper that says the government shouldn’t do that, I’ll sign it, put it to a vote, I’ll vote for it, but what I won’t do is play ball. And this non-college bullshit you’re givin’ me, I got two words for that: learn to fuckin’ type, ’cause if you’re expecting me to help out with the rent you’re in for a big fuckin’ surprise.
Mr. Orange: You know what, you just convinced me. Gimmie my dollar back!
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Reservoir_Dogs
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Let me see Kaante match up to anythin like this above 😛
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May 3, 2012 at 5:22 PM
“alex, i can’t thank u enough for these 2 scenes. and lemme tell u, after bachchan, dutt is my fav actor in bwood, period. he swallowed hrithik in “mission kasmir’ and mind u even hrithik was very good there….”
No problem minor
As for Sanjay dutt
His best work was his illegal yet vulnerable turn in ‘naam’
But maybe u won’t really enjoy it (yet)
And as for his ‘decrepit’ look
Loved his look here
Btw he trumped Madhuri (forget Salman) here
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May 3, 2012 at 5:30 PM
“i wouldn’t enjoy naam”- i have a poster of ‘naam’ and ‘don’ stuck in my room alongwith one of azhar. the last chase scene in naam, during the entire chase both gaurav and dutt remain completely silent(which is surprising for achase scene)- this ‘eerie scene’ itself tells us that dutt’s fate is decided. a brilliant scene.
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May 3, 2012 at 5:34 PM
“Mr. Blonde: Six times? Well, what if she’s too fucking busy?
Mr. Pink: The words “too fucking busy” shouldn’t be in a waitress’s vocabulary”–haha- there’s some v good stuff in RD
The point is that kaante with all it’s Bollywood ‘responsibilities’ etc managed v wel
About naam–Exactly minor
ESP final few scenes and his ‘dying scene’
Also the point when dutt declares to his mom(?) that he won’t ever come back…
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May 3, 2012 at 5:36 PM
And poor Amy –don’t hide away
Won’t question u about your ‘activites’ with esha Gupta and how u two ‘tested’ each other
Chillax
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May 3, 2012 at 5:38 PM
and alex, this one is short quip from kaante but look at the humour underneath. in the beginning when ajju(dutt) is introducing everyone, he says about ‘major’-“aur haa major, par major ka naam major kyon pada ye saala koi nahi jaanta.”
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May 3, 2012 at 5:49 PM
Minor-basically this is a movie for the guys
Mards 🙂
Though this is not reflective of those who didn’t like it lol
Don’t remember since sometimes forget my own name
Courtesy google
“Bali:kya saboot hai ki hum is bank ko lootnge to police humari maiyya nahin karegi???
Ajju:kyonki bali bhaiya…is bank ki security itni loose hai ki teri maiyya bhi is bank ko loot le
“major : aye baali tu kahaan jaa raha hai
baali : aisi jagah jahaan zinda reh sakoon. Ek aadmi to chaahiye tumhari maiyyat mein aane ke liye”
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May 3, 2012 at 6:37 PM
for tony, from QT scripted ‘true romance’-alabama-“Amid the chaos of that day, when all I could hear was the thunder of gunshots, and all I could smell was the violence in the air, I look back and am amazed that my thoughts were so clear and true, that three words went through my mind endlessly, repeating themselves like a broken record: you’re so cool, you’re so cool, you’re so cool. And sometimes Clarence asks me what I would have done if he had died, if that bullet had been two inches more to the left.”
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May 3, 2012 at 6:43 PM
contd from above-“To this, I always smile, as if I’m not going to satisfy him with a response. But I always do. I tell him of how I would want to die, but that the anguish and thewant of death would fade like the stars at dawn, and that things would be much as they are now. Perhaps. Except maybe I wouldn’t have named our son Elvis.”- superb scene and lines.but the scene-stealer here were oldman,christopher walken and dennis hopper.btw i had a crush on patricia arquette after seeing the film
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May 3, 2012 at 6:45 PM
thanks for sharing, saurabh.. I have seen True Romance and thought that was a superb scene.
The highlight for me was the face-off between Walken and Hooper, in that Sicilian scene. That was vintage Tarantino
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May 3, 2012 at 6:50 PM
completely agreed. btw tony scott, is another one of my favs. he is probably the best director in the action genre today.his ‘topgun’ was a classic. btw tony which r ur fav bwood actors and actresses(i know madhuri is one)
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May 3, 2012 at 7:03 PM
have no favorites in particular – though was an SRK fan for a long time but gave up on him eventually.
Just open to watching good films in particular without having any favourites.
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May 3, 2012 at 7:08 PM
hmmm… that’s right. actually such a sensible response is quintessential u. luv reading ur thoughts on films.r u into any sport? from ur comments, i assume u must be in ur late twenties or may have just crossed 30.
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May 3, 2012 at 7:12 PM
You’re a sensible chap ! 😛 pretty close..
Not into any sport as such – though I swim occasionally.
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May 3, 2012 at 7:23 PM
i just wonder that u work professionally and i am sure u be bloody good at ur copyrighting job(i guess ur proficiency in the language can be attributed to it), then how do u find time to see so many films
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May 3, 2012 at 7:29 PM
I work mostly from home, bro. Guess can afford some frolic that way !
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May 3, 2012 at 7:38 PM
ah! so ‘home-sweet home’ is the key. u know what, most of these hwood and bwood stuff i have seen was before coming to college. since then,apart from the ones i see in theatre, i have hardly seen anything. these days i am a bit free so have managed to catch-up on some films, but this ‘party time'(comparatively) is not going to last too long.btw what exactly do u do in this copyright thing, i mean what is ur specific job
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May 4, 2012 at 12:11 AM
damn you guys must have very high expectations i guess…but for me this promo ROCKED. manoj bajpai looks like he will give a acting clinic in this movie. love everything about the trailer and can’t wait for the movie.
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May 4, 2012 at 3:26 AM
Loved the trailer…going by AK’s press conference yesterday, it is a 5 hr 20 min film & will be released in 2 parts…Part 1 on June 22 and Part 2 later in the year.
Even more interesting bit of info, folks ! There is a strong possibility of “Paanch” finally getting a theatrical release in July, tentatively 27th July. This is going by the exchange of tweets between AK & distributor Sunil Wadhwa yesterday on Twitter….Fingers crossed ! Have already seen it on a pirated copy, but would love to see it on big screen again !!
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May 4, 2012 at 4:00 AM
5 and a half hours ?
Hmm this sounds special
Btw congrats scarlett
Interestingly she has already completd 20 year in films apparently
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-17934778
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May 4, 2012 at 8:48 AM
Some korean movies are too good.. If You are into korean movies than I can recco few more”
— Bliss, plz do..
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May 4, 2012 at 9:18 AM
Sure 🙂
but later
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May 4, 2012 at 1:04 PM
So bliss is into Korean stuff
After oldgold , another auteur has been unearthed
Cum on bliss –
‘educate’ us about korean stuff
Hav zilch idea about the far eastern stuff …
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May 11, 2012 at 9:21 AM
Eagerly waiting for this one, looks super.
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May 17, 2012 at 1:42 PM
The leader of the pack
On comparisons with Dibakar Banerjee
“To me he is Hindi cinema biggest filmmaker. I don’t take the kind of responsibilities that Dibakar takes. I get very personal, at times indulgent. Mera cinema is pyaar zyada hai. I am a big cinephile. I remain limited to cinema. He is boundless. I am a researched filmmaker, he is an organic filmmaker. His observation of little-little things is marvellous. I don’t know what to do and how to do. I know what not to do. I negate things to make my way. Dibakar knows where he has to go. His music sense is very strong. I don’t know music. I have to scrape a lot. He is natural. Yes my destiny is perhaps better than Dibakar. He should be given the space that he deserves at the international level,” But then Anurag is taking a film with 25 songs to Cannes!
http://www.thehindu.com/arts/cinema/article3428787.ece
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May 17, 2012 at 2:14 PM
He uses examples like Carlos and Che but those were roadshow versions in the theaters seen by a very negligible percentage of the movie-going population. In France Carlos was shown on TV in the longer version (as was Che on the IFC channel in the US) so that makes it different (in Europe there’s been a tradition of showing serious ‘long’ movies on TV but then again HBO has a lot of very serious programming too). Theatrically those films do hardly anything. In fact Soderbergh said after Che that he was glad to cash in all his chips for this one because he didn’t think he’d ever be allowed to make another film of this kind. In other words with all his great influence the probability of someone like Soderbergh making Che are about the same as a Kashyap doing Wasseypur.
On Dibakar Bannerjee once again Kashyap’s is too rosy a view. When Bannerjee was doing small stuff it just wasn’t risky enough because it didn’t cost as much! Similarly Che is a lot more risky than tons of independent film efforts in the US that are made on shoe-string budgets. But now that Bannerjee is attempting probably his biggest film so far it’s also much safer. A political thriller along the lines of Z is hardly as ‘experiment’ as Love Sex Dhokha (though I am hardly a great fan of this). And once more as I said yesterday Kashyap doesn’t praise the much more obvious examples. a Rohan Sippy for DMD for example. Even within Bollywood’s ‘experimental’ circles Rohan sippy is looked up to by very many for being superior to just about everyone else in terms of technique. Doesn’t Kashyap know this?
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May 17, 2012 at 8:09 PM
The new trailers are very run of the mill- there is no trace of Kashyap the auteur here. I’m now looking forward to Miss Lovely more than I am to GoW.
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May 17, 2012 at 8:15 PM
well Ami both u and satyam r sumwhat right but this is kashyap’s most ‘massy’ film till now- has more than 10 songs- so one has to sacrifice something. also is it just who is finding more than a touch of scorsese’s ‘gangs of newyork’ in the violent action scenes shown in the trailer?
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May 17, 2012 at 8:32 PM
But Anurag is talking about the film as a masterpiece that will bring him international recognition. He is showcasing the film at Cannes hoping it will get him wide acclaim and get him noticed at the international level- this is the last place in which he should be forsaking his signature auteur style for a more massy feel.
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May 17, 2012 at 8:40 PM
u r right again but being massy does not mean it can’t be good. ‘sholey’ was as massy a film as one could be and yet it is considered one of the greatest hindi films ever. regarding cannes, anyway he is not competition success so he does not have much to lose( i am also looking forward to peddlers- gulshan deviah has impressed me like anything). and anyway if ‘udaan’ did not win palm d’or, i don’t think any of this year’s film will do anything great.btw have u seen udaan? what did u feel abt it?
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May 17, 2012 at 8:48 PM
I liked Udaan very much. And I’m not saying that massy films cannot be great films- but they are not the appropriate choice for a film festival like Cannes. The only Indian filmmakers who have had success at Cannes are Satyajit Ray and Mrinal Sen- who are heavily influenced by European Auteurs- and Mira Nair whose Salaam Bombay is the sort of representation of a disenfranchised section of society that is very valued in the international film festival circuit. Cannes does recognise good cinema- but it has a pretty narrow definition of good cinema- and I’m not sure that films of the GoW kind fit into that definition.
I know that the film cannot win any awards- but it’s pretty obvious from the interviews that Anurag is giving that this opportunity means a lot to him and that he wants to be noticed and it make it big on an international level.
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May 17, 2012 at 8:58 PM
oh got ur point. btw just to tellu the only indian film which has won the palme d’or is not a ray/mrinal sen film but a damn good film by chetan anand- ‘neecha nagar’ (saw it as a part of a film club in my school). btw which of ray and mrinal sen’s films have u seen/liked (i have only seen one of ray- shatranj ke khiladi, though i have seen a few of mrinal sen films-esp liked ‘mrigaya’)
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May 17, 2012 at 9:21 PM
My favourite Ray films are Charulatha and Ghare Baire- I’ve also seen the Apu Trilogy and The Music Room. Of Mrinal Sen’s films- I’ve only seen Ek Din Achanak and Interview- both of which I liked. But my favourite of that group of filmmakers is Ritwik Ghatak- I’ve only seen Megha Dhaka Tara- but I absolutely love it.
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May 18, 2012 at 6:02 AM
did you watch LSD satyam? I think that was more of a risk coming from someone who already had a cult KKG and an OLLO that had just won a national award for Best Hindi film. I think he could’ve gone commercial with stars if he wanted to..
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May 17, 2012 at 3:09 PM
The song is Crazy Stuff 🙂
This girl Sneha seems very promising …
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May 17, 2012 at 3:15 PM
Must say this is the least visually impressive Kashyap I’ve seen so far, The first trailer at least had some distinctive (though ‘canonical’) shots. Since then though all these segments have been fairly functional (by Kashyap’s standards). Also think that tonally the trailers seem all over the place. even this current song just seems out of place. Hopefully it will all fall in place within the film which is after all a two part ‘epic’.
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June 14, 2012 at 3:24 PM
True. And I also agree with Ami, this has begun to look quite silly now. I also happened to read the “director’s note,” which (I know it’s just a note, but still…) served as another sign of caution for me. Interestingly, I could (finally) make some sense of Kashyap’s statements about how the so-called “Madurai” Tamil films in recent years inspired him to make this one. The note to my mind betrays the same sort of ‘gaze’ that I think films like Subramaniyapuram had.
Check it out here: http://www.wasseypurworld.com/directors_note.php
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June 14, 2012 at 3:28 PM
Though I must add that, as a fan of Kashyap’s dialogue, I can definitely take a dialogue-y whacky film from him. It’s just that this film didn’t seem one such at all when it was initially announced. Also, Kashyap has tended to make films that are more serious than mere whacky till now.
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May 18, 2012 at 5:57 AM
wow – what distinct / double entendre lyrics..
She wants to see my ‘gun’ or something else…? lol
reminds me of the emotional atyachar song
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May 18, 2012 at 6:16 AM
Lol…
its like this :
I say as a hunter, I must be brave and strong. She say that she find that my gun extremely long 😛
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May 18, 2012 at 6:19 AM
😀
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May 18, 2012 at 9:04 AM
The second song which has just been released is the hilarious I am a Hunter. The song promo is here.
Hunter: Sneha went to Trinidad-Tobago to find some tunes. Migrants from UP,Bihar,Bengal moved to Caribbean islands in pre-Independence times. They settled there, mixed with local races and cultures, and gave birth to a new music called ‘Chutney’ (which is basically Bhojpuri-folk meets calypso). They sometimes use words, instruments, and folk-tunes we thought were lost forever. Of course these tunes have now fused and evolved with calypso very much.
‘Hunter’ is one such find, originally written in English by Vedesh Sukoo (who has sung it too with that trademark Bihari-lilt and curled-tongue ‘o’ sound beneath every word). The Hindi lines are sung by Rajneesh, Shyamoo, and Munna, all part of Nirman Kala Manch (NKM), a well-known theatre group in Patna. Interestingly, one of NKM’s most famous plays is called ‘Bidesiya’, a term used for migrants that never return to their origins. In this case, Rajneesh-Shyamoo-Munna’s co-singer Vedesh Sukoo.
(Migrants who go out for a long time and do return are called ‘Pardesiya‘ and those who go for a short-term, like once every year to the city, probably to sell goods/grains, are called ‘Batohiya’. Hindi film songs have used these terms loosely over the years but while researching for this film, we came to know how technically specific these are.)
Song Lyrics :
Haillloo… Hello… Hello
I am a hunter and she want to see my gun
When I pull it out boy the woman start to run]à (2)
She beg me to see it, she beg me to show it
But when I reveal it, she want to run and hideà (2)
Ooooo… ooooo … Oooo..
Put on your hunting clothes, let we go and hunt
Please don’t be embarrassed, you could touch it if you want.
All them young one around here, ask them about me.
I am the baddest gunman that they ever see
I am a hunter and she want to see my gun
Hum hai sikari, sikari sikari
I am a hunter and she want to see my gun
When I pull it out, the woman start to run
Tan tan tan tan tan tan tan tan.. Tan tan tan tan tan tan tan tan.. (2)
Daily goli nikle, automatic, tan-tan… (2)
With one gun in my hand and the next one around my waist
If you see this young girl with da rude look on she face
I say as a hunter, I must be brave and strong
She say that she find that my gun extremely long
Hum hain sikaari, paacket mein lambi gun,
Dhaayein se jo chhootey tan man howey magan..
Oooooo.. ooooo.. oooo..
This girl harasses me, she won’t leave me alone.
But that kinda behavior I really can’t condone
Hai bahut Bhokali, na kabhi ho khali – (2)
This girl harasses me, she won’t leave me alone.
But that kinda behavior I really can’t condone
She says that she’s sorry, she just want to have fun.
Then she asks me kindly, if she can hold my gun
I am a hunter and she want to see my gunWhen I pull it out boy the woman start to run ]—(2)
Door tak hai phamous, kar de sab ke bebas—(2)
Usko milta darsan, jisko man mein hai lagan—(2)
Laagi lagan laagi lagan… Laagi lagan laagi lagan…
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May 18, 2012 at 9:06 AM
Full song :
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May 19, 2012 at 3:54 AM
Nawazuddin says people in Wasseypur are very similar to people in his village. “I spent 14 days in Wasseypur. The only difference I found was the dialect. I picked the Maithili-Bhojpuri mix and returned. The character is inspired by Amitabh for he feels what he does on screen; he can do in real life. But the physical influence is limited to hairstyle. Rest of it is his.”
http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-features/tp-metroplus/article3434118.ece
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June 5, 2012 at 3:37 PM
nawazuddin as far as acting is concerned is a thousand times better than amitabh bachchan.
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June 5, 2012 at 3:40 PM
Hahahaha
Now now -sumit are u ok mate
Can I take away that Bacardi mug away from u–free vintage booze in corporate nites is not a bad thing, eh 🙂
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June 6, 2012 at 1:58 AM
the one film in which amitabh was tolerable is saudagar in which he paired with nutan in the character of a village gur trader.in the rest of the films he simply sucks.nawazuddin is a btter actor than him.he recently got an award at ny film festival for best actor.roger ebert himself invited him to his residence.he has done some gr8 offbeat movies
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May 24, 2012 at 6:30 PM
As expected, the western press is sucking up to big-mouth Kashyap..
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/review/gangs-wasseypur-cannes-review-328768
Interview–
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/cannes-anurag-kashyap-qa-327173
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May 24, 2012 at 6:44 PM
I hope Kashyap was paying attention to that glowing review because they’ve slotted him with “Bollywood”!
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May 24, 2012 at 6:37 PM
hey thanks An jo for posting the review. btw read ur department review- a great piece- having seen the film, i more or less had the same views abt it as u. wanted to comment on ur write-up but was not getting the time, will do so by tomorrow
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June 5, 2012 at 9:08 AM
The interesting thing about all these trailers (not referring to the song one) is that the most interesting shots usually come up right at the beginning at which point the trailer settles down into more regular fare. Which is to say that the shots aren’t as striking after this. Check out the 3 min trailer, then the 2 min one and finally this new short one. This happens in every instance.
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June 5, 2012 at 9:38 AM
The problem with the film remains that I’m unsure what this is really about. This might sound like an absurd question but here’s what I mean — I am of course interested in it and the idea of a two part epic really appeals to me, however… there are two ways of doing the gangster epic. Either in a somewhat ‘romantic’ Godfather/Leone sort of way where the gangster is rendered in heroic/mythic terms or even if the subject is told in terms of greater realism the framework itself is a mythic one…. or else the anti-romantic Scarface (De Palma) kind of deal.
The problem with the Scarface model is that it gives back with the other hand what it ostensibly takes away with one. The mode is still quasi-epic, the tone very often operatic. A much greater and visceral realism is often apparent within this framework but this logic never defines the latter otherwise.
So then there is the further move of downsizing things a bit more. You have a film like Miller’s Crossing (Cohens) where things are kept much more ‘localized’. It’s about a mafia associated with a trade or an ethnicity or both. These become subversive sub-chapters to the larger Godfather model.
Note how Scorsese has tended to oscillate between these two poles. Or at least play it at both ends. He’s dealt with petty criminals, more transcendent figures. Eventually he gets to the right insight in his late career that the American Dream is often laced with criminality and violence whether it’s an actual gangster at the center or a movie mogul or law enforcement or what have you. This is why GONY is important for this late turn. Because he sets up the ‘founding’ history here. This is also why he attempted the Departed. Here fluidly people exchange identities and it’s hard to tell them apart. The gangster at the center of things seems to be a far lesser problem than the oppressive law enforcement structure surrounding him. all of this could be expanded.
The truly small anti-realist narrative in a sense throws out the baby with the bathwater. Because when you lose the larger than life ‘mythic’ gangster which is of course naive on its own terms (the idea of one guy controlling everything and so on) you are left essentially with the ‘system’. what I mean is that there are no grand figures here and hence the ‘order’ of the system comes into full focus. But this leads to a political deadlock as Zizek would say because you are forced to a position of ‘this is just the way things are’. here ironically the mythic framework often has greater ‘truth’ inasmuch as even thought it presents a naive view of any existing state of affairs is nonetheless about larger ethical or moral questions. In these works the gangster is the state so any critique of him and his order also involves one of a much larger totality. On the other hand if the same gangster is as much a cog in the machine as say the cop or the lawyer or what have you where do the real faultlines of such a ‘bureaucratic’ system really lie?
This is the problem RGV confronts with Shiva/Satya, this is why he starts moving in the opposite direction beginning with Company and completes this move with Sarkar. So he actually moves toward more transcendence not less! But then he goes in for a course correction and Rakta Charitra in a way returns him to his roots even if in hyper-stylized or hyper-operatic fashion. But he’s struggling with the same question throughout. The answer at one point is the realistic narrative more or less, then it’s about a frightening, totalitarian order guaranteed by the ‘nice intentions’ of the Sarkars, finally it’s apocalypse in RC and the solution is really an ‘aesthetic’ one (the seeds of this were evident even in Sarkar). This is still not a coherent solution which is why he keeps returning to it. Haven’t seen Department but from all accounts he’s struggling here too.
And so given all of this I am not sure what the ‘point’ of Gangs of Wasseypur is. It clearly seem to have the epic framework (the length, the two part thing etc). There is a certain novelistic conceit here. the characters seem very ordinary and ‘everyday’, one gets all the lowlife humor and so on.. however the aesthetic choices (let’s say a canonical Antonioni shot of a skyline dominated by a chimney with smoke emerging from it.. against a ‘dull’ background) argue against that very ‘ordinariness’. This is not just ‘any’ world, it is one very susceptible to aestheticization. But Antonioni (or RGV in say RC) goes all the way with this. He doesn’t break out of that mode. What becomes oppressive in Antonioni, certainly in Red Desert, is precisely this aesthetic ordering of grim, dull reality. What becomes disturbing is just how imprisoned the human seems in this world. On the other hand when Scorsese makes his own downsized films he is usually careful not to introduce that kind of aestheticization that one can get in some of his other works. But most filmmakers try to have it both ways on this terrain, And it is here that I am interested in seeing how Kashyap does it in Gangs.. because the trailers give off both signals. It might be fine as a narrative but whether it will be ‘interesting’ or not is something I’m not sure about.
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June 5, 2012 at 11:56 AM
My most awaited film this year along with Shanghai
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June 5, 2012 at 10:13 PM
new promo here..
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June 7, 2012 at 12:35 PM
Enjoy 🙂
2. Womaniya
(Lyrics: Varun Grover)
Taare jo babuna, tarti babuni | He ogles, stares and waits
Babuna ke hathe na chadti babuni | While she teases, taunts and baits.
Maange jo babuna prem nisaniya | He asks, ‘A loving bite on my chin, dear?’
Bole jo thodi, kattti ho kaniya | So she leans over and nibbles his ear.
Badle rupaya ke dena chawaniya | She gives him a quarter if he asks for a rupee
Saiyaan ji jhapte to ho na hiraniyan | And when he lunges, she flees like a flea
Rah rah ke maange choli bataniyan | Don’t let him play with your buttons, it’s a trick;
Jee mey lukaaye lot lotaniyan | The innocent game will end on his prick
Chaahe muh-jhaunsa jab haath sikaniya | When the bastard tries to warm his hands,
Kandha mein dena ji daant bhukaniya | Play along and bite his shoulder
Bolega babuna, chal jai-ho Patna, | The fiancé will offer you a ride to Patna,
Patna bahaane wo chaahega satna, | And will see this as a chance to get close…
Dai-ho na pahuna ko ticket kataniya… | Don’t go all the way (to Patna) with him..
Patna naa jaana chaahe jaana Sivaniya… | Go only up to (Distt.) Sivan, dear.
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June 11, 2012 at 1:15 AM
kya baat hai Bliss? Aajkal bade double-meanings songs post kar rahe ho..
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June 10, 2012 at 11:17 PM
“Gangs Of Wasseypur is entertaining cinema” – Anurag Kashyap: Part 1
By Devansh Patel, Jun 9, 2012 – 04:18 IST
Anurag KahyapThe Box Office in Bollywood has snubbed every movie he has made, except for Dev D that garnered a few critical applauds. Then he has cut his birthday cake with Quentin Tarantino, got help from his friend and colleague Danny Boyle on his dream project Bombay Velvet and met Michael Winterbottom and does a cameo in his movie Trishna starring Freida Pinto. So, is Anurag Kashyap a brand? A perception? Or a reality? On the arrival of the first showers in Mumbai yesterday, I met Kashyap at Novotel Hotel in Juhu over a delicious cup of cappuccino to talk that and much more, including his much talked about film that got a standing ovation at the Cannes Film Festival a few weeks ago. Anurag shrugs calmly, “I am proud of every film I’ve made so far. But I’ve learnt from my mistakes too”. Confidently, he also admits, “Gangs Of Wasseypur is my most commercial film ever”. Kashyap talks about it with enthusiasm that borders on aggression that Gangs Of Wasseypur is an extravagantly entertaining piece of work about vengeance with oodles of humour. Although his films are instantly recognisable – his imprint lies in the sassiness of the characters, the pungency of the dialogue, the shrewdness of the soundtracks – they feel united in the manner of products belonging to a carefully controlled brand, rather than by a common heart of personal revelation. In Part 1 of this exclusive chat, the uncompromising director discusses his route to success and beyond.
“If the brand means that I can do things easily, well, let me tell you it’s still not easy for me to make movies”
I don’t know whether I am a brand, a perception or a reality. I’ve heard this so often that people call me a brand. But what does a brand mean? If the brand means that I can do things easily, well, let me tell you it’s still not easy for me to make movies. For the first time we’ve actually gone out and sold both worldwide, Peddlers and Gangs Of Wasseypur. It’s the first time we’ll see actual profits in both these films. I’ve always believed that films, if doesn’t make money, should not lose any money. We have a team of people working in the office, some of them work voluntarily and we also want to be in a position where we can pay salary to people. That has started from last month (laughs).
“Gangs Of Wasseypur is an entertaining and an engaging cinema I’ve ever made”
Anurag KahyapGangs Of Wasseypur is an entertaining and an engaging cinema. To begin with, we were confused which movie to release first – Part 1 or 2 because I was super confident that both films can stand alone too. We showed Part 1 to people and they were urging to see Part 2. We tried the reverse too. We showed Part 2 to people and the film held them. When we showed both the parts together, people were stunned. At the Cannes Film Festival, the European audience that reads the subtitle and does not know the language sat through the entire film. Normally, they walk out if any movie doesn’t interest them. They sat throughout. Now that’s what gives us more confidence on the content and commerciality. 800 strong audiences watched Gangs Of Wasseypur and gave a standing ovation.
“Gangs Of Wasseypur moves faster than a bullet train”
I never wanted to make a mafia film because I was a part of Satya and Black Friday. What’s the point to make another one? But I finally had a story – the beginning and the end of it, to be precise. There I could trace the origins of the mafia, as to why the mafia existed in the first place. Gangs Of Wasseypur is a story of mafia, a story of family feud, a story of changing country; it’s a story about everything. In five hours and twenty minutes, there’s so much to see. It’s an extremely fast moving film that moves faster than a bullet train. There’s so much to explore about the mafia in Gangs Of Wasseypur.
“I was urging to trace everything I could about Wasseypur and how the gang wars started”
There’s a place called Wasseypur that exists and its not even on Google Maps. Then the whole ‘gang war’ that started intriguing you only because you come to know that it exists since 50 years. I wanted to know why it started and was urging to trace everything I could about Wasseypur. I mean, think about this – People fought over petty things and who’ll be the ruler of Wasseypur, and that Wasseypur is mere two streets. It was insane for me not to make such unbelievable story into a believable one. It’s a crazy story for any outsider.
Anurag Kahyap “The parallel cinema that was considered art house and boring are not boring anymore”
The lines between commercial cinema and art house cinema are blurring. The main stream is being redefined and the good thing is that it coexists today, thanks to Kahaani, Paan Singh Tomar, Vicky Donor, etc. The parallel cinema that was considered art house and boring are not boring anymore. They’ve become entertaining. Even the parallel cinema is being redefined.
“I’ve learnt what I had to from RGV”
RGV’s Factory made films that Ram Gopal Varma believed in. We, including Madhur, Shimit and the many who worked with us during ‘factory’ days wanted to make our kind of cinema but it was RGV who made films he wanted to make and we all were working towards his goals. Today, I don’t tell Vikramaditya Motwane or Bejoy Nambiar or Vasan Bala what to make. Factory made films that RGV believed in and that filmmakers didn’t believe in. RGV controlled everything back then. I don’t control the background score and music. We don’t control anyone. I’ve learnt what I had to from RGV.
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June 12, 2012 at 5:21 PM
Nice Read-( it also provides a translation of Keh ke loonga as requeted by Di) LOL
But language is another matter. It is the film’s real triumph. Let me translate what a butcher wearing a ganji tells a rookie policeman: “This is Wasseypur. Here even a pigeon flies with only one wing, and with the other it tries to protect its honour.”
That is what all that shooting comes down to. The desperate drive to find protection against shame. The shame of knowing that you are fucked. You are either singing “Teri keh ke lunga” — or what is more likely for most people, you are being sung to. Humiliation is par for the course. If you are a star, you will slap a friend in public. But if you are a nobody, you’ll only want to save your ass. In your dreams, you’ll itch to pull the trigger. Of course, revenge is short-lived while death lasts forever, but that brief, bright moment when you challenge fate is worth the dying. O jiya ho Bihar ke lala, arrey jiya tu hazaar saala.
http://www.tehelka.com/story_main53.asp?filename=hub160612AMITAVA.asp
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June 14, 2012 at 7:19 AM
btw “kahe K lunga” doesn’t mean what y’all explained. A.K explained the meaning…saying it means different things in different places….in an interview on youtube…will try to find the link and post it.
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June 14, 2012 at 6:58 AM
Swearing marathon 😛
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June 14, 2012 at 7:44 AM
See, this is exactly my problem. What childish glee and ticklish joy does one get out of having your characters mouth swear words. This is not ‘mature’ filmmaking at all.
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June 14, 2012 at 8:37 AM
Totally concur…I was thinking the same thing (haven’t watched the clip yet)…the alternative cinema of yore made meaningful cinema like ardhyasatya, akrosh and in that sense was truely a “parallel” cinema. After 19 years of struggle A.K comes up with GoW. Will have to see what the noise is all about!
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June 14, 2012 at 9:04 AM
this latest trailer is quite weak. But the Variety review has been very positive on the film:
http://www.variety.com/review/VE1117947719/
“The love child of Bollywood and Hollywood, “Gangs of Wasseypur” is a brilliant collage of genres, by turns pulverizing and poetic in its depiction of violence. A saga of three generations of mobsters cursed and driven by a blood feud, it’s epic in every sense, not least due to its five-hour-plus duration. Helmer Anurag Kashyap puts auds on disturbingly intimate terms with this psychopathic family and its hardscrabble North Indian mining town, while encompassing nothing less than India’s postwar history and deep-rooted problems in microcosm. Riveting as the film is, its sheer length presents a formidable challenge for theatrical distribs.”
I would love to see both parts together. Hoping against hope there’s a roadshow version at least in NY at some point.
But the review all suggests the “tech package” is “uneven”, something that I think is evident from the longer trailers.
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June 14, 2012 at 9:09 AM
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June 14, 2012 at 9:19 AM
Amitava Kumar on the film:
http://www.tehelka.com/story_main53.asp?filename=hub160612AMITAVA.asp
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June 15, 2012 at 4:01 AM
i dont know from where u found this review…but u did a great job.can we have the video of the discussion in cannes..after gow was screened?i know u can find it some how.plssssss
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June 14, 2012 at 9:45 AM
This film is starting to look infantile and kitschy. 😦 But the enormously positive reviews give me some hope…
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June 14, 2012 at 10:04 AM
I think Amitava Kumar might be onto something. This film might be most usefully accessed as a linguistic reinvention of otherwise well-trod terrain. But of course a more than 5 hour narrative needs to be very strong in other ways as well. At the recent NY Indian film festival (from where the above discussion was conducted) they just screened part 1.
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June 15, 2012 at 3:18 AM
I don’t think they are speaking the correct accent especially ladies are speaking Hindi…Bajpai is good but the punchline itself is in hindi (teri kah ke lunga)
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June 14, 2012 at 11:40 AM
Ami…it would defin
ately be something we have never seen before on celluloid. Just the whole bihar language culture part…and A.K has stayed very authentic…so should be interesting watch!
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June 15, 2012 at 2:49 AM
I don’t think they use DK bose that much in Jharkhand (Dhanbad) or Bihar .
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June 14, 2012 at 9:47 AM
All this is hype to recover the cost of a 5 n half hour film.. (two films rather
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June 14, 2012 at 11:17 AM
Wah… kya amrit tapak raha hai sabki zabaan se..
Matlab 100-150 gaaliya daal do picture mei.. aur tarantino ban jao..
Lol.. anyways – the film should still be good.. Go Anurag go 🙂
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June 14, 2012 at 11:38 AM
much like shakespear…thoda chavnni audience K liyay and thoda intellectuals K liyay. I think there is the whole coal mining, mafia, corruption, power politics that will elevate the movie 😉
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June 15, 2012 at 3:19 AM
shakespeare was the greatest artist 2 hv born in the whole history of this universe.by artist i mean…from any field.and by comparing anurag with shakespeare u hv not only shown that u r the most intelligent person in this blog…but also made me ur lifelong fan….god bless u
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June 14, 2012 at 11:27 AM
Tony, but why just blame Kashyap for it. There r so many hwood films where there is an F-word in every 2nd sentence. What was the need of making Tony Montana utter F word so many times in Scarface? how was that justified ?
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June 14, 2012 at 11:39 AM
whats problematic is the word being so many times in the latest promo? Selling a film based on the abuses.. Hmmm..
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June 15, 2012 at 1:44 PM
ON BEING THE BIGGEST BACHCHAN ( Tehelka)
Around the late ’60s, early ’70s, the Congress party was full of people who were hero-worshipped by the masses. All of this changed after the Emergency. Films started being censored, people started to be controlled, corruption began to set in. This was also when Amitabh Bachchan dawned on cinema. For generations we had believed in a dream and we suddenly realised that the benefits of that dream were not meant for us, for the common man. It was meant for a chosen few. The wronged man as the anti-hero got justice for the local people. There’s a sequence in GoW that tells this story — Nawazuddin, who is an Amitabh Bachchan fan and a sort of Bachchan-esque figure to his village, is sitting on a train in front of a guy who is more Amitabh Bachchan than him. They’re silently staring at each other trying to assess, who is a bigger Bachchan? You or me? We are all fanatics for the anti-hero. After Bachchan it was Sanjay Dutt, after Sanjay it was Salman Khan — the labour class heroes are not SRK and Ranbir Kapoor. Their heroes are the bad boys who take on the system, live with swagger.
http://www.tehelka.com/story_main53.asp?filename=hub230612Float.asp
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June 15, 2012 at 3:46 PM
“Nawazuddin, who is an Amitabh Bachchan fan and a sort of Bachchan-esque figure to his village, is sitting on a train in front of a guy who is more Amitabh Bachchan than him. They’re silently staring at each other trying to assess, who is a bigger Bachchan? You or me?”
ROFLOL hahaha
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June 15, 2012 at 5:05 PM
Interesting process of incorporating rural ethnic folk stuff into music here
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June 16, 2012 at 5:45 AM
This one is better 🙂
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June 16, 2012 at 9:32 AM
Now this is one space I NEVER dreamt I will visit forget enjoying somewhat
A folk cum Bihari cum bhojpuri new age sounds reworking !!!
A day has come wherein am finding this stuff interesting
Wherein cannot understand even the meaning of most lyrics
But don’t mind admitting a certain zing n tempo n rhythm
Have never let snobbishness cloud my judgement (or atleast try not to)
Full marks to sneha khanwalkar and anurag kashyap for introducing me to this folk flavour
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June 16, 2012 at 12:57 PM
Anurag never disappoints with music…Loving the songs of this movie..Bihar ke lala, Womaniya, Teri kah ke lunga, Hunter..all of them very good…
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June 16, 2012 at 1:57 PM
Agree bhaalu -good point
Btw credit also goes to the music director sneha here who seems to be genuinely interested in real music and here has incorporated the ‘folk’ traditions otherwise looked down upon or somewhat downmarket
Ps–for the first time, find myself liking this sort of cunning mix of new age sound-Bihari-folk even without understanding some lyrics…
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June 16, 2012 at 3:24 PM
u have put it quite nicely…completely agree with ur point about MD Sneha…
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June 19, 2012 at 1:07 AM
This is looking like a sure-fire winner going by WOM on social media. If a foreign audience without the knowledge of intricacies of the hinter-land and its language is going ga-ga to such an extent, imagine our reaction as someone privy to the language. If AK has just even managed to make the movie satisfactorily gripping, I think the moolah will flow-in. Rest will be taken care of the quirky characters, performances and of course the oxygen supplier to the film; abuses.
This might in all probability end up being the first money-spinner of MCBC Corporation Ltd.,!
http://blog.c0up.com/gangs-of-wasseypur
http://ibnlive.in.com/news/wasseypur-is-a-success-at-the-sydney-film-fest/266527-8.html
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