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Friday 7th November 2013 14.30 IST
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Satya 2 opened to a very dull response of around 5%. The film stands practically no chance at the box office. Krrish 3 continues to dominate but even if there was no Krissh 3 this film would have struggled. There was audience count in single figures at some Delhi multiplexes and Delhi multiplexes tend to start better than most other big city plexes.
Satya 2 is a sequel/series to a film called Satya released in 1998, that film itself was a box office flop all over India apart from Mumbai and South so its beyond reason why a second film is made as results are pretty obvious even before release.
The collections of Satya (1998) were very low outside Mumbai and South but Satya 2 will go one step ahead and be a total washout all over India. The film has already seen a release in UAE and the results were no different.
Friday 8th November 2013 10.30 IST
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Krrish 3 recorded the third highest first week of time only behind Chennai Express and Ek Tha Tiger over the first seven day run. The film has collected a little over 123 crore nett. If the film can break the second weekend record it has chances of becoming the highest grossing film of all time but in order to that the drop on its eight day has to be much less than the drops over the past two days. The business of Krrish 3 so far is as follows.
A dubbed Telugu and Tamil version of the film has collected around 7 crore nett with most of the business coming in Telugu. The film is a record grosser as far as dubbed Hindi films are concerned as Ra.One and Don 2 grossed around 5 crore nett each in their entire run.
So going by these #’s above from Taran (comparing K3 and CE). CE did NOT beat 3 idiots? (glad if its true). I thought they did about 225? Confused. CE shows at 200.55 or something 3I was 202+.
The thing is that Bollywoodhungama has started putting up these tables for various films. The numbers are often not the same as Taran’s though sometimes they are as with Krrish here. On CE Taran went upto 225 or something. Obviously that was a producer number. Here the individual numbers seem to be the same as what Taran put out on CE even in the initial stages. Not sure what the deal is. But in any case here it’s just 200. BOI had it a bit higher. Also remember that once the hype dust settles these guys don’t often care about lowering their totals. BOI has done it regularly in the past. Less so now.
It dont think it is big drop. CE was 5.5 cr second friday on BOI. From there, it went to do 22.5 cr second weekend and surprisingly very big 38.5 cr second week helped by failure of OUTIMD.
Anything above 6 cr friday will be very good, though it should drop big after weekend in the anticipation of Ramleela. And i think Singh Saheb will impact big in single screens. From There on, all the big films in successive films will dent big.
the best ever super hero made in recent times..I think the second weekend looks good considering satya 2 opens to dull..
overall kriss 3 has proved that bollywood is getting very good in making this kind of film…
Six-pack? Eight-pack? Or make it a round dozen – twelve-pack? How fit do we want our heroes to be?
When Aamir Khan acquired a six-pack (or eight-pack or whatever) for Ghajini, it was still a novelty, It was the first time a serious actor, as opposed to, say, Salman Khan, took to such obsessive body-sculpting – and it turned into a great publicity gimmick. Suddenly, we were hearing all about this exercise or that one, this diet schedule or that one – it was the same with Kareena Kapoor, when she went size zero – and the film was constantly in the news. But what did the washboard abs do for Aamir Khan’s character, who suffered from memory loss? You could argue that his fanatical exercise regimen gave him something to do while he blanked out, that it was a reassuring routine, but did we ever see him at the gym? Besides, given that memory loss, how would he remember what exercises to do, how many reps, or even where his gym was? Wouldn’t we have accepted him even without this chiselled form? This is, after all, a film about the mind.
And this craze – maybe we should call it madness – is now everywhere. Every hero is expected to bare his torso in front of the camera, from newcomers like Arjun Kapoor in Ishaqzaade to established stars like Shah Rukh Khan in Om Shanti Om. (And of course, Hrithik Roshan in Krrish 3, which is the reason behind this piece.) You could argue that there are reasons for these bodily enhancements – that the Ishaqzaade character is a small-town boy who perhaps worships Salman Khan and therefore hits the gym reverently, that the Om Shanti Om character is perhaps spoofing this muscle mania, that the Krrish 3 character is a superhero and therefore deserves those super muscles. But, as in the case of Ghajini, would these characters have lost anything if they’d been normally built? Did all that ab-flashing – for just a few minutes – change the way we looked at the rest of the story? I’d say no.
When Hollywood stars get all testosteroney, there’s usually a purpose. In all-action movies, we want to see mountains of muscle like Schwarzenegger or Stallone or Dolph Lundgren. Stallone was a boxer in the Rocky films, and those painfully sculpted muscles made sense. Schwarzenegger was an unstoppable killing machine in the Terminator movies, and that almost-alien physique made sense. Lundgren played He-Man in Masters of the Universe, and it makes sense that he’d have those he-man muscles. You can make a case for James Bond or Ethan Hunt (from the Mission:Impossible movies) to have that kind of body – they are spies, after all, and they need to be in peak condition. You can argue that Sunny Deol or Dharmendra, too, could have used some extra definition in their bodies in the films where they uprooted hand pumps from the earth with their bare hands.
But why take all the trouble to beef yourself up for Krrish 3, when you’re just going to open a door and stand in profile so the audience can see your abs, and, later, walk around shirtless during a song sequence? It’s this use of one’s abs as a super-cool accessory, this metrosexualisation of muscle, that’s annoying. There’s no narrative context for today’s heroes to look this way. It’s just a glamorous selling point on posters and glossy magazine covers, and the actors get to add a bit of “credibility” to their process by saying things like “I gave up gulab jamuns and gnawed on a strip of chicken for eight months, and also woke up at 5 a.m. and spent five hours at the gym” – what’s left unsaid is “so please, please like me, and like my performance.” Perhaps there’s some subtext here. Perhaps, in the absence of a solid character, these actors seek solidity in other, superficial ways.
It’s gotten to a point where we’re hearing about Kareena Kapoor building a six-pack for her upcoming film with the director Karan Malhotra. A tabloidy news item posed this breathless question: “If Kareena has been asked to build a six-pack, how many packs has Karan asked of Hrithik. Any guesses?” From proudly flaunting curves to proudly flaunting the lack of them, the Indian heroine has sure come a long way, baby. That’s why it’s refreshing, sometimes, to turn to Tamil cinema. When we see a big hero like Ajith (in the Diwali release Arrambam) show up with a slight paunch and greying hair, we sense a solid man, someone who fills up the screen in more ways than one. Even better is the hulking Sharath Lohithaswa, who plays the villain in Paandiya Naadu (another Diwali release). When the villain looms this large, it’s all the more satisfying when he falls. If you asked them about six-packs, they’d probably head to the refrigerator.
This is a fine, but I disagree with Rangan’s ‘defence’ of Arnie and Lundgren- for each of these beefed-up folks, there was a Bruce Willis with perfectly ‘normal’ (non six-pack) physique. He is also mistaken on Sunny and Dharmendra- both of them never had a gym-body, their sturdy physique was the result of their natural body architecture. They NEVER built their physique for any particular role or whatever.
And this six-pack culture is their in Hollywood as well- I can understand Arnie flaunting his pecs in Conan, but when Jeremy Renner does the same as Hawkeye (Avengers) it seems completely unnecessary (in any case Hawkeye in the original comics has a very lean physique). The same goes for Chris Hemsworth in Thor
Yes I’d agree that even in Hollywood it’s more the norm than not and in fact it’s really become by now a global norm. Having said that he is right that irrespective of the kind of part it is vulgarly flaunted in Bollywood.
On Dharam and Sunny though you’ve misread him. He’s not suggesting they built up their physiques.
“I disagree with Rangan’s ‘defence’ of Arnie and Lundgren”-agree..
Whilst it is absolutely fine if somebody has major objections for the beefy look and x-packs etc (though that also needs examination as to why but will come to that later!)
But another thing to attack one while condone the other for the SAME thing AND trying to come out holier than thou AND KEWL together while doing this shady job…
So according to Rangan, it’s ok to beef up for being just a ‘boxer’ as in Stallone but not for someone who’s playing a goddamm superhero who is apparently gonna stop ‘trains’ not opponent boxers….
What a shallow hollow defense!!!
And why does he not take into account Cavill in superman (whom I otherwise like!!). Is he not beefed up ?
And why this covertly attacking sunny and dharmendra who have never really been gym addicts (as we know of now)
There’s this subtle undercurrent of attacking north overall, it seems
Is it OUR fault that his idols have been those like the pot bellied mohan lol or the balding rajni Kant !!! 🙂
There are some terms that are just used for snob appeal–like this one ‘obsequious’
There are loads of other simple terms that I could have used & conveyed the same point much more easily
But there’s a reason I used it for Rangan –because it’s very usage stands for what Rangan stands for …
Ps: I have nothing personal against Rangan
He is a brilliant writer of witty anecdotes and a gentleman to be fair…but sometimes ones ‘politics’ and agenda outstrip all those merits … 🙂
LOL, Hrithik is now going around saying he hopes D3 crosses the Krrish numbers. When you know something is going to happen anyway might as well embrace it! SRK was saying similar things after CE!
And aamir will say same thing for salman’s Jai hoo and salman thn back to Aamir’s P.K and vicious never ending circle and ego massaging will go on and ppl will go on discussing it threadbare…. 😉
It’s one thing to celebrate a film after it has achieved a certain gross and quite another thing to preemptively say this stuff. Don’t recall Aamir or Salman saying this sort of thing though I could be wrong.
Go for #Krrish3 now and then go for ‘ Dhoom 3’ in sometime. I want it to go beyond my movie,” .#HrithikRoshan ! Really a selfless man.
This is where HR has Heart of Gold compare to other ego oriented stars.Record are created to be broken.
What is selfless about it? He know D3 will definitely cross k3. Actually, he is spreading false propaganda as if K3 is highest grossing movie and ultimate standard. Hypocrite Hrithik.
Why cant he wish D3 crosses CE?
Agree there sumon
THIS is called ‘class’–well done hritik
While some are already seeing ‘designs’ even in this healthy gesture…..
There’s a difference between what hritk says here and what aamir says/means when he says he doesn’t believe in numbers (!!)
Ps: in this regard, hritik (& even abhishrek!!) are far ahead the bickering plotting khans
Dhoom3 is built on the BIGGEST franchise in bolllywood.
The ONLY A-grade hero having being associated with dhoom has been hritik !!
aamir is only BENEFITTING from that franchise(& he knows it!!)
Dhoom3 has loads of ADDED box office friendly FRILLS-
Like Katrina –who is not much less than an a-grade hero currently ….
Like glorified sidekicks like abhishrek and uday…
The marketing acumen and power of the BIGGEST banner in Bollywood –yashraj
Compared to that Krrish3 is JUST hritik
With part contribution by Rakesh /filmkraft
Yeah, Satyam will point out –krrish is ALSO a franchise.,,
True –but THIS franchise is BUILT AROUND the BACKBONE called Hritik !!!
Take out aamir from dhoom3 -put in ANY top hero –results won’t be much different
Take out hritik from K3-put in ANYBODY–I mean ANYBODY from Bollywood–or even rest of the Indian fraternity–results won’t be half !!!!
So if dhoom3 makes more than krish 3 -is it of credit to aamir —
A big NO
The big question first is though–let aamir make that much first !!
There’s stuff ready even for that 🙂
You’re quite right. Abhishek had not come off his best career point when D2 released (Dhoom, BnB, Dus, Sarkar, BM, Guru to follow). He was not called ‘The Rising Prince’ for this reason on an India Today cover in mid’2005. Aishwarya just happened to be in the film. The first film in the franchise just happened to be a hit. And of course D2 didn’t have any other frills either like Bipasha Basu showing up.
As we all know Abhishek is in a better box office position right now. Aamir has just been struggling for hits in all kinds of genres for about a dozen years now (soon he’ll struggle more with Hirani).
And what’s your hilarious logic here? Not that the franchise gets credit but that Hrithik gets it for creating the franchise? Even by the Alice in Wonderland standards of the blogosphere that is pretty amusing.
Finally, yes, Krrish has no frills. It’s a serious drama where Hrithik the actor performs in every scene and if you don’t like this there’s nothing else there.
You’ve gone pretty goofy in recent times! Not very surprising, if you don’t like the results you see try and change the subject. Guess who’s making excuses now? LOL! What happened to the public being the final deciders and all that? Not apparently when it comes to D3!
Seriously though Sanjay Dutt deserves the credit for 3I.
I must also thank you for pointing out all such frills when Agneepath released…
This is interesting..perhaps not the right thread but never the less..
Two Titans Of Cinema, Under One Roof
You know you’re in the presence of a legend when the audience, which has been eating out of your hands so far, begins heckling you when your questions run longer than they should. It is a sign that the audience will not be satisfied until they see and hear as much as humanly possible from the man they came to see. That the audience firmly believed that every moment Amitabh Bachchan spent silent on stage was a moment of this once-in-a-lifetime opportunity they would never get back. If TEHELKA Editor-in-chief Tarun Tejpal, who hosted the session, had ended it at the scheduled time, there might have been a mini-riot. Wisely, when the bell rang, he immediately assured the crowd that the talk would go on.
It was, as Tejpal said, the most starstruck session in THiNK’s history, as Bachchan and Robert De Niro, two titans of cinema whose names are known to millions, were both present under one roof. De Niro, who will formally take the stage on Sunday afternoon, was watching in the audience; and when the session finally ended, he came onto the stage for a photo-op for the ages.
Bachchan, who said that the presence of a live audience “always brings fear” of not being acceptable, of making mistakes, was reserved, but engaging. He spoke of his childhood in one of India’s most elite families, growing up in an atmosphere of literature and poetry (his mother let him follow his acting dreams since “one poet in the family [was] enough”), to parents who came from two entirely different backgrounds. Of his early struggles in the industry after being rejected as a newsreader by All India Radio. Of the heights he reached once he broke through as a leading man in Zanjeer and Abhimaan. Of the fall from his perch and bankruptcy, of his reinvention on the small screen through Kaun Banega Crorepati.
It is a cliché, but what shone through the session was Bachchan’s utter humility and the legendary work ethic (he made sure, he said, that he would never miss a call time). Asked repeatedly to describe what goes into his decision to choose which films to do, he replied, “I’m bad at picking scripts; I just took work whenever I could. I just wanted what I was doing to be acceptable.” The younger crowd, he acknowledged, was more organised, more choosy when it came to their films. He talked about the blind faith he placed in his directors, how the only disagreements he’d have with them would be registered when the script was being narrated; once shooting would start, they would be boss.
At one point, Tejpal asked him whether the rumours of Indira Gandhi getting him his first break by writing a letter of recommendation were true. “I never saw the letter or anyone who got this letter. But,” he said, asking De Niro whether he agreed, “even a letter from God can’t get you a role in a film.”
Satyam, video of this can be found here (thinkworks.in) and if there is a way to put it here
Satyam–yeah I might be pulling aamir because you are pitting him against the box office might of hritk…
Aamir is way ahead in discretion, planning and script sense etc
But purely as a ‘star’ hritik is ahead (by a mile)…
Ps: but that doesn’t mean that u bring in poor abhishrek amongst these guys…
Let abhishrek do FIVE solo films
ANY banner
ANY heroine of choice
ANY release date
And ADD UP the total of those FIVE solo films of abhishrek —
Let them beat either k3 or d3 –then we will discuss abhishrek 🙂
Since we’re into quiz terrain name me a Hrithik solo other than the ones he has with his father that has big numbers. I’ll be generous and not count aliens as supporting actors.. ‘Nuff said.
Hopefully you won’t make me name the Aamir solos.. What does this prove? Hrithik’s ahead by a mile.
Now you can get back to your Krrish action figures..
“Aamir is way ahead in discretion, planning and script sense etc
But purely as a ‘star’ hritik is ahead (by a mile)…”
Hrithik is not ahead of Aamir in any terms, not by a mile, not by a meter, not by a kilometer!
In his 25th year as a leading actor in cinema, Aamir Khan is on his way to have the highest grossing film in the history of indian cinema. Hrithik is a star, but the guy is limited by his acting and stardom. Ranbir has MUCH more potential IMO to become the next true “super star.” Actually Ranbir has already caught up with Hrithik amongst the younger generation. The 90’s (age group of 25-35) generation still belongs to the Khan’s and Aamir is a huge part of that following.
Agree about Aamir but Hrithik has a HUGE mass audience following, bigger than Aamir, and maybe even SRK. Ranbir is a long way from having this and by the looks of his next few movies, it doesn’t seem like his mass audience will grow. Plus his recent attempt at a wooing the mass audience was an epic disaster. Ranbir is a great actor but there’s something about him that makes him seem like a sissy/too feminine. I get the same feeling from Imran Khan. Ranveer Singh seems like the only young actor capable of developing a mass audience but the guy is damn annoying and a semi-buffoon.
After pretending that it was only about the box office Apex suddenly introduces these qualifiers when it’s Aamir. Genre for genre the man gets the biggest initial around but we’re supposed to believe that Hrithik somehow has the bigger following! Which of course cannot be verified in any box office sense! Not my terms but those Apex has chosen for so long. And it’s particularly curious to launch this argument because Hrithik has been extremely mortal the moment he moves away from a very commercial genre. And even within these there’s a big difference between Filmkraft and everything else. The only big success he has since his debut is D2 (hardly a solo!). Other than this Agneepath opened big but didn’t sustain. But ok by the standards of today it worked but this had lots of frills to it too. It’s even more curious to make this argument when the Krrish 3 numbers make quite clear that it’s light years away from any standard that the previous Krrish lived upto! Forget this, it’s in all probability not even going to touch CE (leaving aside Taran’s numbers.. and even here it might only touch those) which is hardly SRK’s biggest film the way that OSO was or perhaps HNY will be (again in the sense of having a lot else going on in the film). It gets to a point (and this happens with many fans) where any kind of result somehow makes the star! And these are the guys who were making fun of me for saying that a 90 crore gross for Talaash all said and done was pretty good. Not optimal, might have done a bit more but no one else could have done more with this genre. And again the idea that not Aamir, not even the franchise history, but Hrithik deserves the credit for whatever D3 does is completely daft!
I think there is some insecurity suddenly in apex’s views.
Excuses are already being prepared for D3 whatever result. Anything less than Krrish 3 and we will be hearing the Hrithik is better than Aamir. Anything slightly more and pretty much the same. Anything significantly more and Hrithik will begin to get the credit!!!
Ha!
It’s like saying Aamir’s Lagaan made Gowariker and than Jodha Akbar’s success should be attributed to Aamir.
The logic is flawed.
Come Dec 22nd, most of apex’s questions will be answered one way or the other.
Poor actors, they truly do end up with some poor fans!
chennai express is family oriented movie with a director who himself is brand and a red hot female lead who is striking gold in multiplex with an extensive promotion(forget srk)
let me asked you honestly:
krrish 3 with bad music, no skin show or item number , outdated and worn out trailer , a genre which itself in last year has fetched ra 1 has lot going against it …see response
You can’t have it both ways. Apex has also said the same thing. Presumably the people who like the film don’t think it’s bad! when one doesn’t get enough of a benchmark gross one can’t say that ‘hey this is good for a bad film’. This is exactly what SRK fans say. ‘Ra One still crossed a 100’. As if it was going to stop at 40! And if everything I’m saying weren’t true Kites would also have made as much let alone a dozen other Hrithik films.
FIRSTLY let’s take Abhishrek out of this debate –it’s not fair to the guy ….he has my best luck to resurrect his career first before posing threat to anyone -last of all those like aamir or hritik!!!
Now coming to aamir v hritik…
the KEY point here is that Hritik is more than TEN years JUNIOR than aamir and NOT exactly a contemporary at all..
So it’s but natural that Aamirs filmography is bigger than hritik
And with due respect, aamir has been brilliant and has excelled in his choices and moves…
Let’s dissect Aamirs RECENT illustrious filmography ..
To start with–I love aamir on most of these films but NOT in the ‘worshiper fanboy’ mode that’s been pedalled here…
Ghajini–remake of South Indian HIT
which itself was remake of memento !!!!
(Note the originality & ‘risk taking’!)
Tzp-the writer/director amol Gupte was chucked out and aamir ‘took over’ the responsibility of ‘direction’
Three idiots–took over from Sanjay dutt who clicked big time in munnabhai, with perhaps the best all-round contemporary mani stream director hirani coming off two blockbusters
(Talk about risk taking!)
‘Originality’– ‘adapted’ from chetan bhagatsalreqsy successful novel—spat with bhagat over crediting issues!!
Peepli live–aamir did not act in it-though creditably ‘backed’ it
spat (again!) with the female director over crediting issues !!!
Dhoom3–the only a-grade actor associated with the franchise was hritik! in an essentially b-rung actors dhoom1…
Biggest franchise in Bollywood
Biggest production house yashraj
Biggest heroine (other than deeps)– katrina
Taking over from the momentum left behind by –who else but Hritik himself !!!
Is it a credit if this one nets 250+? Not really,,,,
And now coming to the final nail in the coffin–
TALAASH
The ONLY original film recently in the true sense
TWO big heroines not one–Kareena in full skin show mode
Kareena as the ‘heart of gold’ prostitute (favourite with guys!)
Rani in a male-pleasing ‘wife role’
Handle bar moustache in a macho cop role
One of the biggest prodcution house excel
THREE years after three idiots ….
And what does aamir deliver—
The ONLY film by an a-grade hero in the last two three years NOT even reaching 80-90 crores (trumped by raaz!!!)
Nuff said 🙂
think Hrithik might be ahead of Amitabh Bachchan. After all the latter has had more than 40 years… On a related note I heard De Niro was disappointed at that Tehelka event. He was expecting Hrithik.
In fairness to you I should say Rakesh Roshan agrees completely with you.
If there were a candy bar for each of the ‘logical’ clauses laid out, I think some would be millionaires by now..
Never knew ‘handle bar’ mustache was a big draw at the box office!! And I am wondering if there is a secret, special ‘Reema Kagti’ Director’s Cut where Kareena indulges in ALL the bed-room/chair antics of a prostitute. How did I miss that? It has to be. If the desi men keep getting hard-ons merely for the fact that Kareena enacts a prostitute’s role, man, 3 cheers to our libido. At least we are ‘up’ above the rest of the world at least in one area!! And I also never knew that ‘family ‘people would flock to Aamir’s film expecting BLUE IS THE WARMEST COLOR!
It’s better I stay away from these – makes no sense when people keep trying to fit in a square peg in a round hole..
Not really sure what you trying to say or what you even understood out of my comment and its context..but hey if it helps you crack jokes only you and Apex can follow, go for it!!
Hahah rockstar–timely link
-this is a setback to those who have suddenly started quoting ‘box office India’ as the ‘holy grail’ do indian box office —
Whilst BOIs own website says this–
“YOU ACKNOWLEDGE THAT BOXOFFICEINDIA.COM AND ITS AFFILIATES DO NOT CONTROL, REPRESENT OR ENDORSE THE ACCURACY, COMPLETENESS OR RELIABILITY OF ANY OF THE INFORMATION AVAILABLE ON THE WEB SITE”
well, it’s been a long time since box office figures have been trivialised and made fun of here. Boi is supposed to be biased, have agenda, modify commentary and so on
Live never been interested in these box office minutiae not only because I don’t see the point in fighting over 10 crores in a total of 200(!)) but also because the box office ‘food chain’ is v complex esp in India, so there are many others factors that we can’t take uno account
Aldo lots of tweaks are fine for income tax liability purposes…
This is NOT to condone taran and his ilk, but it’s interesting how in the discussions of krrish 3 box office, suddenly the SAMS Box office India figures are being quoted and held up by the SAME usual suspects who dissed them earlier 🙂
The SAME guys who wrote paras and long essays in discrediting ‘box office India’ are suddenly claiming BOI is the ultimate gold standard (!)
And it doesn’t take rocket science to figure it why…
This sudden elevation of boi as the GOLD standard (even when they haven’t even included the dubbed versions!) and are being alleged of under quoting figures is really somethign worth watching
Actually this is the ultimate admission of the box office force of Krrish 3 and ultimately Hritik Roshan 🙂
Just read the above krrish3 review by filmigirl –wow
What an unbiased, evolved, sensible review that doesn’t overintellectualise things for the sake of appearing cool (as is common)….
She also correctly picks up the character graphs of the lead characters here and finally nails it as to the type of actor HR is…
Bravo filmigirl —
And as usual, filmigirl rips apart her pet hate PC 🙂
Exerpts—
Hrithik Roshan is a very deliberate actor and very physical actor. Watching him over the years, you can see how he fully inhabits the body of his characters. So, it was fascinating to see the indifference with which he played his scenes with his on-screen wife Priya and this indifference fully set the tone of the character of Krishna for me. Krishna is a man ripped from an idyllic life in the countryside and thrust into an urban, upper-middleclass lifestyle that has no meaning to him. Priya is happy as a clam, with her career as a TV news person and endless stream of designer frocks but Krishna takes no pleasure in it and, worse, he can’t seem to find the knack of holding a “normal” job–security guard, waiter.
Moving on to the two ladies of Krrish 3, Priya and Kaya, heroine and vamp, respectively. I was dreading Priya’s role going in, if for no other reason than she was played by Priyanka Chopra, but the two things that have bothered me the most about Priyanka’s screen presence where neutralized quite well here by Rakesh (proving yet again that he knows exactly what I like in a film). The first is her propensity to wear way too much make-up and way too few clothes for characters that are supposed to be ordinary women. This was successfully poked fun at within the first ten minutes of the film, which combined with Priya’s fancy TV hosting job, was just a nice acknowledgement that Priyanka’s glam act is an act, and one put on by wealthy women. The second is that she seems incapable of acting like a mature grown woman, putting on a grating “cute and girlish” act that has only grown worse as she’s gotten older. What’s tolerable at an adorably dim 22 is far less so in a woman over 30 and there is a scene late in the film that has–for plot reasons–Priyanka acting as Kaya acting as Priya. The sarcastic edge this gives Priyanka’s usual flighty heroine act was really effective. I’m not sure if Priyanka intended it this way but I thought it worked very well in the film.
As for Kaya, her character was the closest I’ve seen to the vamp with a heart of gold in a long time. Besides the fact that Kangana Ranaut is just electric on screen, I thought Kaya was a fascinating character. She is a manimal, created by Kaal to be obedient to him, even as he treats her like shit and orders her around like a robot. When she meets Krishna, she’s touched by his kindness–literally touched. Physical contact done with love and tenderness is something she’s never experienced and neither is praise. When Kaya, who is unconsciously becoming more sympathetic to Krishna, pulls a Krrish and helps a small child, she’s stunned by the applause and gratitude of the crowd. She asks, “What did I do?”
Perhaps I’m biased because the non-human who finds a soul and learns to love is one of my favorite science-fiction tropes but I loved Kaya. And I appreciated that she got to make her own decisions in the end and use her life in the way she thought was best. I also have to say that the bizarre picturization for “Dil Tu Hi Bataa,” filmed in Jordan and featuring Kangana decked out in some elaborate headdresses, makes a lot more sense when it’s clear that the song is from Kaya’s point of view. The desert can be seen to represent her previously empty heart and the odd styling… well, who am I to judge what a manimal would find fashionable?
The last two major characters are Rohit, the father, and Kaal, the villain–two different faces of wisdom. One has morals and the other is concerned with profit. You can guess how that confrontation goes; making money is not an end in itself in Rakesh Roshan’s world. His message is simple: Love, Peace, and Hrithik.
The above review by filmigirl is an example of what I call a wholesome sensible review
Wherein the reviewer (irrespective of his/her antecedents) tries to get the tone/texture/target audience of the film and gets the ESSENCE right
The rest is usually peppering with jokes/anecdotes and I don’t mind them for eg here filmigirl lambasts PC excessively though the reality is that poor PC did not do anything wrong
But it’s ok to have these likes/dislikes
But it shouldn’t distract from the overall ‘schemata’
Ps: filmigirl is brief about HR but gets it spot on
I may elaborate sometime what makes HR what he is…
It’s not an accident/fluke/looks/dance only !!!
Ps2:suggest rangan and his followers should try this type of earnest review –it’s not an accident that Rangan finds similar admirers as we’ll lol
Ps3: a brilliant description of kaaya aka kangana..
“When she meets Krishna, she’s touched by his kindness–literally touched. Physical contact done with love and tenderness is something she’s never experienced and neither is praise.”
I was right –The apt casting for Kaaya was certainly anu 🙂
No one elevated BOI or anyone else here. At least not for anyone who can read and understand English. You’re unfortunately following the well-trodden path SRK fans first developed. Of attacking the messenger when the news isn’t to your liking or when you feel that the slightest bit of credit is being taken away from your favorite star. I don’t think that people who try to give credit to Hrithik for D3’s potential success and pretend Aamir is reaping the benefits really have a leg to stand on when it comes to questions of honesty! Every single thing I’ve said in my comments you’ve more or less proved. Being a partisan of a star (which is different from being a fan.. how? a partisan tries to alter ‘reality’ to shape his or her perspective) perhaps all of this is wholly natural to you but what you don’t realize is that you’re not really making a case here. You’re just confirming with every comment that you are ‘fanatical’ about Hrithik. And you’re hardly alone with this kind of attitude because many stars have these kinds of fans all of whom think that simply attacking anyone who dares to question the star in any way gets one to the desired goal. Taran or BOI or whatever narrative one favors isn’t one’s savior because those guys will easily move on to the next film in a matter of days or weeks! And so even here the ‘honesty’ is lacking on your side because if you want to go by Taran you can’t then unilaterally decide that Ranbir isn’t comparable to hrithik at the box office (when everyone was asserting the opposite after YJHD) nor can you unilaterally say things about Aamir. If one is not available to any kind of reasonable debate in these matters one cannot suddenly pretend to be more ‘subtle’ when it’s about stars one doesn’t like or at least is anxious about. Nor can one play this ‘hey I’m just quoting one important source Taran’ game. Specially when he’s just quoting producer totals himself! Forget BOI, why is it that from BoC to NBOC all of whom have numbers closer to BOI you’ve never made much attention? Aren’t you also showing a desperation to somehow have Hrithik get to 200, the way SRK fans were earlier or Salman fans or whoever? Taran could be adding a 100 crores and calling the film at 250 right now and you’d still say the same thing. Why? Is one forced to simply accept things this way? When one clearly knows there’s something very dubious about these claims? Again you are free to do all of this but let’s not pretend others are being dishonest and what not. If I were a true Hrithik fan, which I’m not in any sense (not even a fan of his), I actually would find the Krrish result somewhat dismaying, not least because it would confirm in my mind a certain stagnation on hrithik’s part but furthermore it would also tell me that even in his strongest genre he’s falling way behind his earlier benchmarks. Is he a top star? Absolutely. But that was evident after his first film! The rest has been about a fits and starts career where despite having this box office potential no one has ever (yes EVER) put him ahead of whoever his strongest peers happened to be. Desperation can’t cover this gap. Assuming that one still maintains some contact with reality (always a dangerous assumption on a blog I know). I still have nothing against Krrish in any ideological sense (the way I sometimes do with SRK’s films) but I found it an appalling piece of cinema (I did not at all mind the older Krrish), about as unwatchable as Ra One. Appalling as narrative, appallingly handled SFX, so on and so forth. Compared to this the last Krrish was a great classic. I’m not partisan when it comes to judging this stuff. I found CE quite engaging recently. And even though YJHD was watchable for the genre I found it every bit as poor as many other films from the Johar camp in this context. And yeah I haven’t liked a major release more than Talaash in recent times (might be forgetting something). Krrish is utterly awful. An embarrassment in my view much like Ra One. Yeah I’d rather watch both in the same day than sit through Drona. But that doesn’t mean much!
Krrish3 enters the 200 crores club
‘Krrish 3’, Hrithik Roshan’s Bollywood superhero film franchise, with sensational box office collections has entered Bollywood’s elite Rs 200 crore club on the seventh day (November 7) of its release.
Noted film critic Taran Adarsh tweeted the box office collections figures: @Krrish3 collects 13.44 Cr on day 7. Domestic Total 166.52 cr. Overseas 36 cr. Worldwide 202.42 cr.
As of November 7, ‘Krrish 3’ has collected Rs. 166.52 in India and with ‘fatal’ reviews of the only release this weekend, it seems that ‘Krrish 3’ is still in the running!
‘Krrish 3’ now joins Aamir Khan’s ‘3 Idiots’ and Shah Rukh Khan’s ‘Chennai Express’ in the Rs 200 crore club. However, King Khan’s ‘Chennai Express’ still retains its spot as the fastest film to reach the Rs 100 crore mark, in just 4 days.
On the fifth day of its release, ‘Krrish 3’ had already entered Bollywood’s elite Rs 100 crore club.
Third film in the series, ‘Krrish 3’ created history by registering the highest collections ever on a single day, having garnered Rs 35.91 crore on Monday.
there is an elementary error in this article. Even Taran has it at 200 crores at that point only with a worldwide gross. But with 3I or CE only the domestic totals are being referred to. CE for instance must have reached its worldwide 200 much earlier than its domestic one! Also if one is just going by a worldwide 200 many other films would join such a list!
Now it’s a different matter that Taran being 40-45 crores ahead of other estimates at this point the film will cross 200 even domestically. But it’s not there yet. The article is simply false even going by Taran’s numbers. of course going by these other estimates it’s still unlikely to do much more than 185.
It would seem K3 may not get to 200 crores per BOI numbers. Again, one of those films that has a massive initial but not so great trending. Eventual total will be fairly big regardless of whether it makes it to 200 or not.
It IS some sort of sucess for sure but am sure Roshans must have hoped for more.
Hapoened to catch five min of it on a pirated DVD and thought this might be actually fun on big screen!
Think the producer and its cohorts like Taran had decided beforehand to ensure this movie goes past 226 crs before Ram leela releases. Must say they are well on track. I am sure this movie has done closer to the BOI numbers than the producers. But who can prove it anyways?. One things certain though, the movie has been liked and has trended well after that start and is a hit at the very least. Think this will end around 190 crores in BOI and around 270 crores in Tarans book…
“Abhishek had not come off his best career point when D2 released ”
Bringing in poor abhishrek amongst the likes of aamir and hritik ? Hahah
It’s like discussing Namibia in a G8 summit…
Ps : hiya sanju –how r u –hope u had a nice ‘break’
How’s your playmate anu–did she teach u naughty stuff 🙂
When Aamir Khan acquired a six-pack (or eight-pack or whatever) for Ghajini, it was still a novelty, It was the first time a serious actor… Stars like Shah Rukh Khan in Om Shanti Om.
I think in normal calenders 2007 comes before 2008 and OSO released in 2007. But i am not surprised by this misteke on the part of Rangan and nor surprised by the esteemed member of this blog who get orgism on every point about thier adopted idol Aamir (Thier real idols are Sr and Jr Bachchan but at preasent they are dead horse in BO). That is why they find infinite loopholes in Krish 3 but not in Dhoom 3 where thier adopted idol runs in a building downward. Then they call fans of other stars Dishonest.
I was just going to type the error of rangan.. as OSO was prior to Ghajini… but was sure someone would have pointed the error.. and here i find dj!.. OSO 6 pack was well publicised and quite a craze.. i remember…
“I’ll be generous and not count aliens as supporting actors.”
Pls be a little bit generous ot Abhishek and Uday also in Dhoom series. I think both of them are importent for Dhoom franchise. They are as importent as ‘ay’ an ‘okAY’. You see OKay can’t be completed without ‘ay’ so Dhoom can’t be completed without ‘A’bhishek and uda’Y’
Saturday 9th November 2013 10.30 IST
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Krrish 3 held up well on day eight with collections around the 7.50 crore nett mark. The Gujarat area is still on holiday which is an advantage to the film. The weekend collections should go to 30 crore nett or higher. The record for second weekend is 33 crore nett by 3 Idiots. The business of Krrish 3 so far is as follows.
yes I agree that’s very much possible.. beyond this though, at least by the non-Taran numbers it’s unlikely to do much more than 185. Unless it holds up surprising well in week 3 despite the competition. Basically the most likely scenario here is an ETT/YJHD kind of total. Better trending than ETT of course but not at CE level.Can’t recall what YJHD’s first week was, if the trending was better than this but in any case that film over performed given that it was just a multiplex deal and hardly a film of the scale of ETT or Krrish.
assuming Taran has it around 9-10 crores on day 8 (he had it at 166 through Thu, 13.4 for Thu) the film will be at 175 by his count. A whopping 45 crore differential! A new record has been reached! Good to see Taran has been breaking his own records as well..!
True Hrithik is younger. The conjecture I would say is that by this time the equivalent for Salman (13 years in the industry in 2001) he already had a MPK/HAHK, SRK (in 2004) had DDLJ/KKHH and a streak going on from 2001-2004 and Aamir (in 2001) had RH and the Lagaan moment.
Hrithik in comparison has never been as “hot” as a commodity than post his debut! He also has not had a “monster” box office hit in the ATBB side. Still plenty of time on his side, but he won’t achieve much with K3 going forward, age will catch up on these types of films.
He simply is a big star but at no point in his career has he been considered #1. The closest was 2006 and than he took an 18 month break.
The “Khans” can at least lay claim to some kind of golden patch. SRK (01-04), Aamir (07-09) and Salman (10-12) where most what they touched was successful.
But this whole #1 debate or which star is bigger is rather vague nowadays. The idea that an actor not associated with a film can get the credit for its success is pretty amusing!
And if your going to compare Aamir and Hrithik compare ZNMD and Talaash. Not a big difference in gross, but the former considered a “hit” and the latter considered a “disappointment”. And compare the genres, the former a multiplex movie – coming of age type and the latter a psychological thriller with a pretty grim dark theme.
leave hot and bb when this guy is around with his much senior colleagues he has given highest grosser of the year ( so called number 1 theory)
kaho naa pyar hai, k3g, dhoom 2 , koi mil gaya , krrish, jodha akbar is massive in there repective year … what more any want and hardly has anyone had any better record so early( and here i am not including agneepath and znmd)
take any source and ya dhoom 3 is not solo its indeed however bad abhishek bachchan is performing he has some pull in multiplex and this is franchise built on -ve heroes
it took mr khan something like 25 years and massive hard work to built something like talaash but you remember something it has some hype:
mr khan coming after 3 years that to after 3 idiots
team of farhan’s production and mr khan after dch and ya not one but 2 big heroines, mr khan ironically in his last film was paired with kareena only(3 idiots) the same movie which has repeat value both in tv and dvd circuit
why should i compare znmd with talash … in the meantime mr roshan has experimented in movies like guzaarish and had special appearance in kazy4( ya rakesh roshan production which bombed and even kites largely due to many english dialogue) and something like playing second fiddle to farhan akhtar in luck by chance
he was not lying compleately low to maximise initial
did mangal pandey worked no but jodha akbar did
did mela worked(the bad remake of sholay) but something like agneepath did
Apex is at least not guilty of this but otherwise there is in many quarters this ‘nationalist’ appropriation of Hrithik. This was also in the air after KNPH to a degree. I think you’re unfortunately succumbing to this.
“krrish 3 with bad music, no skin show or item number , outdated and worn out trailer , a genre which itself in last year has fetched ra 1 has lot going against it …see response”
Well said rockstar..
It’s becoming increasingly difficult for Satyam ..
As I said the ‘black robe’ is shrinking day by day–it’s looking like a ‘bikini’ now-wonder what shall be the state in a few days 🙂
A true STAR is one who can pump life (& box office!) into a project like krrish3 that’s stale, cheesy, dated, risky (no other superhero film has worked in Bollywood ever!!) and take it to safety and beyond ….
NOT one
Who takes UNNNATURAL breaks and employs his excellent script sense, timing and undeniable grip over film financing into film choices and PIGGY BACKS choicest projects,,,
I know the above description is UNFAIR for aamir who is an above average actor( can be brilliant at times) and I’m a big fan of his satyamev Jayate initiative
BUT
when one compares Aamirs pull and STARDOM to someone like hritik and even srk and Salman, the fan frenzy generated by aamir falls short ( to blogs like this!)
And aamir being an intelligent guy knows it more than his fans!!
So fans of stupid films which are successful have bigger stars then ‘good’ films which are successful. What does that say about fans of stupid films?
The box office is not always pure stardom. There is a premium in certain instances or goodwill and aamir has earnt that. And mind you aamir has done some poor stuff of the srk, hrithik standard. Fanaa, ishq, raja Hindustani. All were hits.
Guys like you try to create the impression of ‘knowing cinema’ … Admit to the cheeniness of a krrish3 and then attempt to celebrate it as well. Lol what a confused soul you are.
Haha now u r clutching to straws and getting irate
Besides lurking at odd hours to ‘defend’ aamir
C’mon aamir doesn’t need such defense
And doesn’t need anyone’s ‘certificate’–least of all mine.
I myself have loved most of aamirs films but a definitive ‘crowd puller’ he ain’t …
As for dhoom3–it should do north of 250crores and will do so…
Aamir will get loads of money and another record but not credit
🙂
“think Hrithik might be ahead of Amitabh Bachchan”— I don’t agree with u there 🙂
It’s difficult between aamir and HR but the difference in seniority Isn’t that much
And BOTH have long gaps between releases (and I find both guilty of this unnatural interval)
To add to the expanding list of Aamirs ‘original’ films recently —
Dhoom3 lifted from ‘now you see me’ !!!
Ps: I haven’t seen the dhoom3 trailer yet nor the original film
But this should be worrying for aamir fans
Ps2: I can’t confirm or deny the accuracy of these reports-will leave that to the public 🙂
Sunday 10th November 2013 10.30 IST
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Krrish 3 had a huge jump on Saturday of around 40% with collections of around 10.50 crore nett. This makes the two day second week total 18 crore nett. It will be the second film in history to go over 30 crore nett for the second weekend. The first being 3 Idiots.
The second weekend record is 33 crore nett plus of 3 Idiots which may be out of reach of Krrish 3 as it will have to collect over 15 crore nett on Sunday which looks tough.
Krrish 3 in Hindi has now collected around 141 crore nett in nine days which is the same level as lifetime business of films like Dabangg and Bodyguard and by the end of its second weekend it will be the fifth highest grosser ever.
As predicted best trending movie since 3 idiot.
Sunday can be between 12-15 crore.
Apex……might be a good idea to use that thing inside your head before you post videos from zee news about how D3 is copy of a hollywood movie that came out THIS YEAR. Since you are a movie fan ( I presume), you should know that majority of D3 was already shot by November of 2012.
@ cool ‘dud’–well I may use that thing in my mind but perhaps it’s not an option u have got!!
Or else u would have read that I’m not supporting or denying this allegation. All I’ve done is posted a link that’s been shown on a news channel site (not even a blog!!)
If u have such sharp defensive tendencies for aamir and d3–go knock on the news channels door m8 !!!
Also bolllywood doesn’t exactly work on a ‘bound script’ route anyways and there is always room for ‘improvisation’ till the last moment. And one can’t rule it out here in d3 for a few scenes & he trailer being tweaked…
If are so naive about the workings of Bollywood–I also presume u are a fan–go check Your basics….
As for being over defensive about aamir and d3– u are feel to do so but don’t come again giving free advice to others ….
And don’t u try to tell me what I can post or not –that’s not your prerogative-there’s an efficient moderator who routinely deletes /modifies stuff here
Don’t u try to impose a ‘censorship’ of your own about what aamir or d3 is and is being shown in news media –
So don’t get your knickers in a twist (a favorite phrase I’ve learnt here!) or else that knicker may get knocked off 🙂
U got exactly the type of answer your intial comment deserved!!! & u will keep getting the same treatment no matter which name u post with lol
And why were u expecting ‘intelligence’ here…if u didn’t understand any reasoning given above..
Be worried about your knickers now rather than dishing out intelligence certificates to me… ::-)
Annjo-don’t agree with anything here
But I give u a pass for mentioning the name of a flick I wanna watch soon
‘Blue is the warmest color’
Starring our own sanju and anu
Ps: Satyam was caught Watching it-how was it Satyam and whose ‘performance’ was better 🙂
This time also Bigboss is doing well courtesy Salman Khan. The way he handles the inmates is really worth watching.
And comedy nights by Kapil has some moments though it is somewhat crass and lacks class.
Anil Kapoor’s 24 hours has caught the imagination of viewers who are fed up of saas bahu nonsense. And there are stars from anil kapoor to shabana azmi rubbing shoulders with tv stars. While in films he is more of a baffoon , on TV anil kapoor is quite good.
Colors is really offering something different and better than Star Plus and Zee which are depending on staple saas bahu stupid dramas and boring costume half baked mythologicals and historicals.
This time KBC is not doing that well. Too much competition. But it is holding well and is the sole star on Sony at present.
Wow sanju–so uve been watching lots of stuff
“I saw Madras Cafe. It is really good and bold. “– hmm how was nargis fakhris work…
Sanju–Why don’t u write your review on CE & Yjhd … 🙂
Thanx for the update sanju-seems u know my ‘tastes/interests’ well 🙂
May check out bits of big boss–guess its available online as well. Who is elli and who are your favourite contestant(s)….
Btw
This has performed the unimaginably poor. It washed out in range of any unknown small budget movie .. life time will be less than 2 Crore .. heck even KRK’s deshdrohi had double collections.
Is there any chance of RGV’s comeback ?? Here question is not about how good or bad movies he made. He build a horrible image among general public (media equally responsible) and even 5 star movie will not change their mind.
RGV is at dead end without U turn (despite churning out many good movies, even Satya-2 is not bad)
November 10, 2013
Marvel’s ‘Thor’ Soars to Top of U.S.-Canada Movie Charts
By REUTERS
LOS ANGELES/NEW YORK — Marvel superhero Thor pounded his box office competitors over the weekend, muscling movie sequel “Thor: The Dark World” to the top of U.S. and Canadian charts with a hefty $86.1 million in debut ticket sales.
The 3D film starring Chris Hemsworth trounced last week’s top movies. Raunchy comedy “Jackass Presents: Bad Grandpa” finished in second place with $11.3 million from Friday through Sunday, according to Hollywood.com.
“Free Birds,” the 3D movie featuring the voices of Owen Wilson and Woody Harrelson as turkeys who team up and travel back in time to get turkey off Thanksgiving dinner plates, earned the No. 3 slot with $11.2 million, just ahead of senior citizen buddy comedy “Last Vegas” which took in $11.1 million.
“Thor: The Dark World” also hauled in $94 million from international markets, where the movie began playing on October 30, distributor Walt Disney Co said. IMAX showings added another $11 million globally, and its combined global sales through Sunday reached $327 million.
The new “Thor” installment co-stars Natalie Portman as the love interest for Thor, the mighty god of thunder who battles to save his homeland of Asgard from evil forces. Tom Hiddleston plays Thor’s villainous brother Loki.
“Thor 2” fell a bit short of industry forecasts that it would kick off with up to $92 million at North American (U.S. and Canadian) theaters. But the sequel opened stronger than the original movie, which debuted with $65.7 million in May 2011.
Thor also appeared in 2012 smash hit movie “The Avengers,” which helped stoke interest in the character. According to a poll by the Fandango movie website, 72 percent of ticket buyers said fond memories of Thor in “Avengers” influenced their choice to see “Thor: The Dark World.” The “Thor” sequel cost $170 million, Disney said.
“It’s a great start,” said Dave Hollis, executive vice president of distribution for Walt Disney Studios, adding that Disney would have considered “anything north of $80 million to be a good result.”
Hollis also noted that the film was playing especially well with family audiences.
“Marvel has transitioned,” he said. “This is an everybody picture.” Business ticked up as the weekend went on, and he said Disney was anticipating an especially strong performance on Sunday and Monday, given the Veterans Day U.S. holiday on Monday, when many schools and businesses will be closed.
Second-place film “Bad Grandpa” stars comedian Johnny Knoxville in disguise as an 86-year-old man who travels cross-country with his 8-year-old grandson, pulling pranks on unsuspecting people they encounter on the way.
Animated movie “Free Birds” tells the tale of a pair of turkeys that try to keep their kind off Thanksgiving dinner plates, while “Last Vegas” follows four lifelong friends who reunite for a bachelor party. It stars Oscar winners Robert De Niro, Michael Douglas, Morgan Freeman and Kevin Kline.
Last week’s winner, sci-fi thriller “Ender’s Game,” dropped to fifth place, taking in $10.3 million after a steep drop-off of 62 percent in box office receipts.
Two films in limited release expanded to more than 1,000 theaters each. Drama “12 Years a Slave,” starring British actor Chiwetel Ejiofor, brought in $6.6 million, while “About Time,” a romantic comedy starring Rachel McAdams and Domhnall Gleeson, collected $5.2 million.
“Bad Grandpa” was released by Paramount Pictures, a unit of Viacom Inc. CBS Films, a unit of CBS Corp, distributed “Last Vegas.” “Free Birds” was distributed by privately held Relativity Media. Lions Gate Entertainment Corp released “Ender’s Game.” Fox Searchlight, a unit of 21st Century Fox, released “12 Years a Slave.” “About Time” was distributed by Universal Pictures, a unit of Comcast Corp.
Monday 11th November 2013 10.30 IST
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Krrish 3 collected 31 crore nett in its wecond weekend to take its business to 153 crore nett. It is the second highest collection ever for the second weekend after 3 Idiots which collected around 33 crore nett.
The film will be the highest grossing film ever in Rajasthan, Bihar and Orissa, a couple of other circuits may join the list but it still remains to be seen if the film can get to 200 crore nett. The third will probably determine whether it gets there or not.
Rakesh Roshon should add Deepika or Kathrina in Krissh 4.
Priyanka is decent but she is not box office force as above two.CE gain 30 + crore because of Deepika which may be the difference between this two movie.
@ sum’o’n–your name is really cute
It’s also fun to see you spell rosh’o’n!
Suspect u are a Bengali girl since they have a penchant for ‘o’ing everything-am I not right ?
Ps: actually Bengali is a v pleasant language to hear (though I don’t understand a word of it)
Except one phrase….(any guesses folks) 🙂
on the BOI points they’re making I remember most of them. In fact many of us have talked about this stuff over the years.
The bottom-line is that there is simply no way to precisely account for all the numbers in India which is where all this stuff comes in. There is simply no data collection source that has everything the way it’s done in the West where every single ticket sale is accounted for in every sense. Now while this was always the case there are two reasons why the problem has become more acute in the contemporary age. First off because of online and cable TV consumers you have a market for obsessively focusing on the figures. More importantly because trending patters on 99% of even successful films are rather mediocre (to put it kindly) this is a way of changing the subject and making it about absolute numbers.
By the way even in this piece note where they end up:
“Any source, any figure you take.. Krrish 3 is still one the biggest blockbusters of the year. It’s a hugely profitable film for all its investors.”
This is a completely dubious claim. it’s clear that the film has certain been liked enough by people to get to a certain total (whoever you believe) but to go from here and suggest that this means it’s been hugely accepted and is hugely profitable or what not is clearly false. The film in its second weekend still fell somewhat short of the 3I mark, this 4 years after that film. Much as these 200 crore grossers are either made-up ones or barely scratch that overall 3I number. So a film gets to 200 off 80, another gets to the same off 150, in each case you say it’s the same kind of blockbuster and that it’s hugely profitable and what not. In other words production costs and distribution prices must be completely static and for all kinds of subjects for this to be the case (i.e. for films to be equally profitable or whatever as long as they all clear some absolute number)! Leaving this aside there are also never proper numbers forthcoming for production costs et al. Producers often exaggerate these to build up hype before release and later on move away from the very same once the film releases. It’s simply not possible to assess how profitable Krissh or any other film is without knowing these numbers. But even without this information the idea that this is a big blockbuster is absurd. The same was true for CE, the same for ETT and so forth. CE and Krrish clearly trended better than ETT. Even to get to ETT’s level you need some sort of audience acceptance in the initial phase. All of this is obvious. But the Bombay definition of a hit these days is ‘any film that gets an initial, doesn’t totally collapse and then gets to a big enough number’. Around this basic formula all kinds of games are played. Whether it’s about the hyping of numbers or fabricating them, whether it’s about a narrative that is even more false than this, whether it’s about using centers selectively, so on and so forth.
One is saying 160/170 crore; one has already orgasmed to 200+ – a difference of 30 to 40 crores???
And the world thought Indians were good at Math; but I forget, we are damn good at corruption too..Ask Kalmadi the price of a toilet paper roll and he can tell you to what extent it can be jacked up..
So this difference is hardly ‘shocking’ –
Saala Nana Patekar sahi bola tha: SAU MEIN SE ASSI BE-IMAAN PHIR BHI MERA DESH MAHAAN??
The range runs from BOI’s 153 to Taran’s 206! Now in the former case the dubbed totals haven’t been included but they usually weren’t in the past. Then started being specified separately. Now even that has stopped happening.
The problem once again is that there’s a market for this stuff. It creates a big news story online or on cable or wherever. And then there are fans so desperate to get to these totals that they don’t really care how these numbers have been brought about.
will also add here that leaving aside a concern with the factual in these matters, which of course the guys doing the spin or the fans/partisans don’t have, the irony here is that even coming at it from the other side the theory of the case is self-deconstructed. Whenever I bring up these questions or comments (and I have for years) I invariably have partisans of one star or the other popping up and saying I’m doing it to pull someone down or that I’m frustrated or whatever. Because most people in these cases have apparently had their mental maturity arrested at the kindergarten stage this kind of sentiment has many takers. The idea that whether one likes a star or not, a film or not, one might still be interested in the ‘actual’ box office picture is conceptually rocket science to many of these folks. But the point is it’s not about whether I or anyone else on a blog like this asks these questions. From Taran to BOI the narratives are deconstructed by these very same folks. Because first off all they change numbers, play loose with them in ways that ought to be obvious to anyone. But even if there is always a group of fans willing to buy into them (for instance the SRK fan might have had a problem with exaggerating ETT’s numbers but not Ce! The Hrithik fan similarly with respect to both and so on) for a given film there is also this larger narrative. A dozen times every year the likes of Taran get up and exhaust their vocabulary hyping these films. Two weeks later everything’s back to normal and on to the next one. This keeps happening. All kinds of figures are submitted to this same hysterical commentary. every film is historic, every film is Sholay, if you take a bathroom break a record is broken. What this does is eventually make the commentary meaningless. As a fan of one star or the other how happy can you possibly be when in a month or so the very same things will be said about another film?! In fact they’ll say more. So if YJHD is historic it’s presumably beating everything else, then if CE is doing the same it’s better than YJHD, then it’s Krissh’s turn and so on. So even for the greatest partisan there is no ‘permanent’ achievement here. And I do think we’ve reached a new low with Krrish as the numbers are so much one excess of what anyone else has calculated that this too will start happening more often going forward. The Tarans of the world meanwhile get what they’re paid for (!), they hype up things, these stories are spread in the media, you see the 100 crore or 200 crore headlines, they can say they’ve done their job! But again this happens every month!
Now of course a complete failure cannot be sold like this except that Ra One was. SRK made fun of its flopping at the Filmfares, otherwise Taran and others never conceded this. It’s just the way things are. I think looking at everything and based on experience in these matters one can judge how a film has done and what range the numbers most likely occupy. But that’s about it. Otherwise it’s just a circus routine overtime a big film releases. One just has to put up with it.
Oberoi says he is being compared to Ledger and Nicholson..and that if people don’t like K3 — which apparently is just 1% — then they don’t like anything in life…
Damn ‘snobs’ them, frustus, why can’t they just go along with the ‘flow’, so what if it is gutter water!!
Someone (offside) rightly wondered why nobody posted a review on krrish 3 yet. Well, they are busy in spins/games
Just looked around for a review. Haven’t read this one yet, but am sure filmigirl will have something sensible & unbiased to say…
WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 6, 2013
Krrish 3: Love, Peace, and Hrithik
I apologize for this review coming so late! I had two functions to attend last weekend and just barely managed to fit in a screening of the film itself. I’m going to try and keep this as spoiler-free as possible, respecting Rakesh Roshan’s wishes, but really I would suggest just seeing the film if it seems at all like something you would enjoy.
If you are the kind of person bothered by the fact that there is no Krrish 2, then Krrish 3 is definitely not the film for you. Much like Rakesh Roshan’s numbering of the series, his narrative is more concerned with what feels right, as opposed to what would make logical sense. Fortunately, that’s exactly the way I like it. What Rakesh Roshan (and co-writers Honey Irani and Robin Bhatt) have given us is a wonderful mix of science-fiction, family drama, action, and good old-fashioned masala dil. Krrish may look slicker and more musclely than heroes of days past but his heart is firmly anchored in the time when we cheered for Vijay, not Don.
Krrish 3 opens with a recap of the first two films. Rohit Mehra (Hrithik Roshan), a young man with a good heart and an intellectual disability, is given the Flowers for Algernon treatment by a mysterious alien named Jadoo. The second film has Rohit’s orphan son Krishna (also Hrithik Roshan) being kept in a state of edenic innocence, which is shattered when flighty city girl Priya (Priyanka Chopra) stumbles into his world. Krishna follows her to Singapore where he uncovers real evil, embraces a secret identiy as superhero “Krrish,” and finds out that he’s not an orphan after all.
Now, in the third installment, Krishna and Priya have moved to Mumbai with papa Rohit but trouble finds them in the form of one Mr. Kaal (Vivek Oberoi), head of Kaal Pharmaceuticals. You see, Kaal is running this scam where he has his troupe of elite manimals (yes, I said “manimals”) release a deadly virus into some area and then sits back and waits for the world to come begging for an antidote. Guess what happens when he sends his most elite manimal Kaya (Kangana Ranaut) to that very same Mumbai with a vial of deadly virus? Guess who she runs in to?
The themes of family and social responsibility raised by Rakesh, as well as his use of the full masala palate (including a comedy track with Rajpal Yadav), make Krrish 3 feel more like Shankar’s recent work in Tamil films like Anniyan and Endhiran than with contemporary Hollywood superhero films like The Dark Knight. Unlike the typical Western superhero these days, Krrish isn’t acting out the desires of the lazy male teenager with a superiority-inferiority complex but grappling with issues of what it means to live in the modern world, of how to fit into society.
Hrithik Roshan is a very deliberate actor and very physical actor. Watching him over the years, you can see how he fully inhabits the body of his characters. So, it was fascinating to see the indifference with which he played his scenes with his on-screen wife Priya and this indifference fully set the tone of the character of Krishna for me. Krishna is a man ripped from an idyllic life in the countryside and thrust into an urban, upper-middleclass lifestyle that has no meaning to him. Priya is happy as a clam, with her career as a TV news person and endless stream of designer frocks but Krishna takes no pleasure in it and, worse, he can’t seem to find the knack of holding a “normal” job–security guard, waiter.
Krishna finds joy in helping people as masked hero “Krrish.” He’s not a vigilante, acting outside the law to bring violent revenge on those who would dare harm another’s property. No, Krrish is a friendly antidote to accident and mishap. Let the law handle the law-breakers; Krrish is going to use his powers to save people who would otherwise die. And he makes sure to tell the audience that they shouldn’t imitate his stunts but should imitate his modus operandi–we can all be Krrish, if we reach out a helping hand. The contrast of Krishna, the boxed up husband riding in the private car, to Krrish interacting with people on the street cannot be an accident.
Moving on to the two ladies of Krrish 3, Priya and Kaya, heroine and vamp, respectively. I was dreading Priya’s role going in, if for no other reason than she was played by Priyanka Chopra, but the two things that have bothered me the most about Priyanka’s screen presence where neutralized quite well here by Rakesh (proving yet again that he knows exactly what I like in a film). The first is her propensity to wear way too much make-up and way too few clothes for characters that are supposed to be ordinary women. This was successfully poked fun at within the first ten minutes of the film, which combined with Priya’s fancy TV hosting job, was just a nice acknowledgement that Priyanka’s glam act is an act, and one put on by wealthy women. The second is that she seems incapable of acting like a mature grown woman, putting on a grating “cute and girlish” act that has only grown worse as she’s gotten older. What’s tolerable at an adorably dim 22 is far less so in a woman over 30 and there is a scene late in the film that has–for plot reasons–Priyanka acting as Kaya acting as Priya. The sarcastic edge this gives Priyanka’s usual flighty heroine act was really effective. I’m not sure if Priyanka intended it this way but I thought it worked very well in the film.
As for Kaya, her character was the closest I’ve seen to the vamp with a heart of gold in a long time. Besides the fact that Kangana Ranaut is just electric on screen, I thought Kaya was a fascinating character. She is a manimal, created by Kaal to be obedient to him, even as he treats her like shit and orders her around like a robot. When she meets Krishna, she’s touched by his kindness–literally touched. Physical contact done with love and tenderness is something she’s never experienced and neither is praise. When Kaya, who is unconsciously becoming more sympathetic to Krishna, pulls a Krrish and helps a small child, she’s stunned by the applause and gratitude of the crowd. She asks, “What did I do?”
Perhaps I’m biased because the non-human who finds a soul and learns to love is one of my favorite science-fiction tropes but I loved Kaya. And I appreciated that she got to make her own decisions in the end and use her life in the way she thought was best. I also have to say that the bizarre picturization for “Dil Tu Hi Bataa,” filmed in Jordan and featuring Kangana decked out in some elaborate headdresses, makes a lot more sense when it’s clear that the song is from Kaya’s point of view. The desert can be seen to represent her previously empty heart and the odd styling… well, who am I to judge what a manimal would find fashionable?
The last two major characters are Rohit, the father, and Kaal, the villain–two different faces of wisdom. One has morals and the other is concerned with profit. You can guess how that confrontation goes; making money is not an end in itself in Rakesh Roshan’s world. His message is simple: Love, Peace, and Hrithik.
In the end, Krrish doesn’t want adulation or garlands or even to “find himself.” Krrish–and Krishna–just want to do what’s right, to help their fellow human beings because they can. It’s a beautifully uncynical message and the type of small ‘r’ romance I wish we saw more of these days.
in the same year we had man of steel and a certain nolan angle so in comparison it pales if one is grown on hollywood movie but in indian context its a step forward(will easily be the best indian superhero movie) though i didn’t liked the movie but kids are liking it
thing is such genre provides employment (to technocrats)along with masala(to lesser skill technician)
imagin hrithik roshan in somthing like man of steel…pity he is wrong industry…lesser acting talent but he improved only but a big spirit
SATYAMSHOT 
November 8, 2013 at 7:52 AM
Rocky:
http://www.dnaindia.com/entertainment/report-krrish-3-reaps-gold-in-andhra-pradesh-tamil-nadu-1915707
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November 8, 2013 at 7:54 AM
Satya 2 Opens To Dull Response
Friday 7th November 2013 14.30 IST
Boxofficeindia.Com Trade Network
Satya 2 opened to a very dull response of around 5%. The film stands practically no chance at the box office. Krrish 3 continues to dominate but even if there was no Krissh 3 this film would have struggled. There was audience count in single figures at some Delhi multiplexes and Delhi multiplexes tend to start better than most other big city plexes.
Satya 2 is a sequel/series to a film called Satya released in 1998, that film itself was a box office flop all over India apart from Mumbai and South so its beyond reason why a second film is made as results are pretty obvious even before release.
The collections of Satya (1998) were very low outside Mumbai and South but Satya 2 will go one step ahead and be a total washout all over India. The film has already seen a release in UAE and the results were no different.
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November 8, 2013 at 7:54 AM
Krrish 3 Has Third Highest First Week
Friday 8th November 2013 10.30 IST
Boxofficeindia.Com Trade Network
Krrish 3 recorded the third highest first week of time only behind Chennai Express and Ek Tha Tiger over the first seven day run. The film has collected a little over 123 crore nett. If the film can break the second weekend record it has chances of becoming the highest grossing film of all time but in order to that the drop on its eight day has to be much less than the drops over the past two days. The business of Krrish 3 so far is as follows.
Friday – 18.75 crore
Saturday – 15.50 crore
Sunday – 15 crore
Monday – 31.50 crore
Tuesday – 20.50 crore
Wednesday 13 crore
Thursday – 9 crore nett
TOTAL – 123.25 crore nett
A dubbed Telugu and Tamil version of the film has collected around 7 crore nett with most of the business coming in Telugu. The film is a record grosser as far as dubbed Hindi films are concerned as Ra.One and Don 2 grossed around 5 crore nett each in their entire run.
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November 8, 2013 at 8:00 AM
and here’s Taran with 166 crores:
http://www.bollywoodhungama.com/box-office/special-features/id/281
So 36 crores ahead of BOI if you add their dubbed version totals.
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November 8, 2013 at 1:07 PM
So going by these #’s above from Taran (comparing K3 and CE). CE did NOT beat 3 idiots? (glad if its true). I thought they did about 225? Confused. CE shows at 200.55 or something 3I was 202+.
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November 8, 2013 at 1:12 PM
The thing is that Bollywoodhungama has started putting up these tables for various films. The numbers are often not the same as Taran’s though sometimes they are as with Krrish here. On CE Taran went upto 225 or something. Obviously that was a producer number. Here the individual numbers seem to be the same as what Taran put out on CE even in the initial stages. Not sure what the deal is. But in any case here it’s just 200. BOI had it a bit higher. Also remember that once the hype dust settles these guys don’t often care about lowering their totals. BOI has done it regularly in the past. Less so now.
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November 8, 2013 at 9:33 AM
Bit of a dip in performance…still expect a bit of a kick over the weekend, though chances of 200 crore on BOI have all but evaporated.
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November 8, 2013 at 10:30 AM
It dont think it is big drop. CE was 5.5 cr second friday on BOI. From there, it went to do 22.5 cr second weekend and surprisingly very big 38.5 cr second week helped by failure of OUTIMD.
Anything above 6 cr friday will be very good, though it should drop big after weekend in the anticipation of Ramleela. And i think Singh Saheb will impact big in single screens. From There on, all the big films in successive films will dent big.
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November 8, 2013 at 12:25 PM
the best ever super hero made in recent times..I think the second weekend looks good considering satya 2 opens to dull..
overall kriss 3 has proved that bollywood is getting very good in making this kind of film…
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November 8, 2013 at 10:43 AM
Wonderful, wonderful article. I had most of the same points to write about this stuff but obviously, could NEVER match Rangan’s lucidity and clarity..
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Six-pack? Eight-pack? Or make it a round dozen – twelve-pack? How fit do we want our heroes to be?
When Aamir Khan acquired a six-pack (or eight-pack or whatever) for Ghajini, it was still a novelty, It was the first time a serious actor, as opposed to, say, Salman Khan, took to such obsessive body-sculpting – and it turned into a great publicity gimmick. Suddenly, we were hearing all about this exercise or that one, this diet schedule or that one – it was the same with Kareena Kapoor, when she went size zero – and the film was constantly in the news. But what did the washboard abs do for Aamir Khan’s character, who suffered from memory loss? You could argue that his fanatical exercise regimen gave him something to do while he blanked out, that it was a reassuring routine, but did we ever see him at the gym? Besides, given that memory loss, how would he remember what exercises to do, how many reps, or even where his gym was? Wouldn’t we have accepted him even without this chiselled form? This is, after all, a film about the mind.
And this craze – maybe we should call it madness – is now everywhere. Every hero is expected to bare his torso in front of the camera, from newcomers like Arjun Kapoor in Ishaqzaade to established stars like Shah Rukh Khan in Om Shanti Om. (And of course, Hrithik Roshan in Krrish 3, which is the reason behind this piece.) You could argue that there are reasons for these bodily enhancements – that the Ishaqzaade character is a small-town boy who perhaps worships Salman Khan and therefore hits the gym reverently, that the Om Shanti Om character is perhaps spoofing this muscle mania, that the Krrish 3 character is a superhero and therefore deserves those super muscles. But, as in the case of Ghajini, would these characters have lost anything if they’d been normally built? Did all that ab-flashing – for just a few minutes – change the way we looked at the rest of the story? I’d say no.
When Hollywood stars get all testosteroney, there’s usually a purpose. In all-action movies, we want to see mountains of muscle like Schwarzenegger or Stallone or Dolph Lundgren. Stallone was a boxer in the Rocky films, and those painfully sculpted muscles made sense. Schwarzenegger was an unstoppable killing machine in the Terminator movies, and that almost-alien physique made sense. Lundgren played He-Man in Masters of the Universe, and it makes sense that he’d have those he-man muscles. You can make a case for James Bond or Ethan Hunt (from the Mission:Impossible movies) to have that kind of body – they are spies, after all, and they need to be in peak condition. You can argue that Sunny Deol or Dharmendra, too, could have used some extra definition in their bodies in the films where they uprooted hand pumps from the earth with their bare hands.
But why take all the trouble to beef yourself up for Krrish 3, when you’re just going to open a door and stand in profile so the audience can see your abs, and, later, walk around shirtless during a song sequence? It’s this use of one’s abs as a super-cool accessory, this metrosexualisation of muscle, that’s annoying. There’s no narrative context for today’s heroes to look this way. It’s just a glamorous selling point on posters and glossy magazine covers, and the actors get to add a bit of “credibility” to their process by saying things like “I gave up gulab jamuns and gnawed on a strip of chicken for eight months, and also woke up at 5 a.m. and spent five hours at the gym” – what’s left unsaid is “so please, please like me, and like my performance.” Perhaps there’s some subtext here. Perhaps, in the absence of a solid character, these actors seek solidity in other, superficial ways.
It’s gotten to a point where we’re hearing about Kareena Kapoor building a six-pack for her upcoming film with the director Karan Malhotra. A tabloidy news item posed this breathless question: “If Kareena has been asked to build a six-pack, how many packs has Karan asked of Hrithik. Any guesses?” From proudly flaunting curves to proudly flaunting the lack of them, the Indian heroine has sure come a long way, baby. That’s why it’s refreshing, sometimes, to turn to Tamil cinema. When we see a big hero like Ajith (in the Diwali release Arrambam) show up with a slight paunch and greying hair, we sense a solid man, someone who fills up the screen in more ways than one. Even better is the hulking Sharath Lohithaswa, who plays the villain in Paandiya Naadu (another Diwali release). When the villain looms this large, it’s all the more satisfying when he falls. If you asked them about six-packs, they’d probably head to the refrigerator.
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November 8, 2013 at 12:02 PM
Superb piece! some lines are golden including the one that ends the piece!
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November 8, 2013 at 12:17 PM
This is a fine, but I disagree with Rangan’s ‘defence’ of Arnie and Lundgren- for each of these beefed-up folks, there was a Bruce Willis with perfectly ‘normal’ (non six-pack) physique. He is also mistaken on Sunny and Dharmendra- both of them never had a gym-body, their sturdy physique was the result of their natural body architecture. They NEVER built their physique for any particular role or whatever.
And this six-pack culture is their in Hollywood as well- I can understand Arnie flaunting his pecs in Conan, but when Jeremy Renner does the same as Hawkeye (Avengers) it seems completely unnecessary (in any case Hawkeye in the original comics has a very lean physique). The same goes for Chris Hemsworth in Thor
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November 8, 2013 at 12:25 PM
Yes I’d agree that even in Hollywood it’s more the norm than not and in fact it’s really become by now a global norm. Having said that he is right that irrespective of the kind of part it is vulgarly flaunted in Bollywood.
On Dharam and Sunny though you’ve misread him. He’s not suggesting they built up their physiques.
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November 8, 2013 at 3:36 PM
The OBESQUIOUS Rangan !!!
“I disagree with Rangan’s ‘defence’ of Arnie and Lundgren”-agree..
Whilst it is absolutely fine if somebody has major objections for the beefy look and x-packs etc (though that also needs examination as to why but will come to that later!)
But another thing to attack one while condone the other for the SAME thing AND trying to come out holier than thou AND KEWL together while doing this shady job…
So according to Rangan, it’s ok to beef up for being just a ‘boxer’ as in Stallone but not for someone who’s playing a goddamm superhero who is apparently gonna stop ‘trains’ not opponent boxers….
What a shallow hollow defense!!!
And why does he not take into account Cavill in superman (whom I otherwise like!!). Is he not beefed up ?
And why this covertly attacking sunny and dharmendra who have never really been gym addicts (as we know of now)
There’s this subtle undercurrent of attacking north overall, it seems
Is it OUR fault that his idols have been those like the pot bellied mohan lol or the balding rajni Kant !!! 🙂
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November 8, 2013 at 4:10 PM
Typo ‘obsequious’
There are some terms that are just used for snob appeal–like this one ‘obsequious’
There are loads of other simple terms that I could have used & conveyed the same point much more easily
But there’s a reason I used it for Rangan –because it’s very usage stands for what Rangan stands for …
Ps: I have nothing personal against Rangan
He is a brilliant writer of witty anecdotes and a gentleman to be fair…but sometimes ones ‘politics’ and agenda outstrip all those merits … 🙂
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November 8, 2013 at 12:03 PM
that whole ghajini argument is ridiculous here…
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November 8, 2013 at 2:19 PM
BoC have 127 crores for the week:
http://businessofcinema.com/boxoffice/box-office-krrish-3-spectacular-first-week/117824
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November 8, 2013 at 2:20 PM
LOL, Hrithik is now going around saying he hopes D3 crosses the Krrish numbers. When you know something is going to happen anyway might as well embrace it! SRK was saying similar things after CE!
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November 8, 2013 at 2:34 PM
Kanpur down by 36.5% on Friday as compared to thursday.
KANPUR (#Krrish3 ) Friday Multiplexes-403248 Single Screen-206684 TOTAL-609932
KANPUR (#Krrish3 ) Thursday Multiplexes-648583.06 Single Screen-312390. TOTAL-960973.06 7days TOTAL-9839926.04
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November 8, 2013 at 2:36 PM
By this rate, Friday will be 5.71 cr which is almost equal to CE second friday. Though, CE had tough competition in second week from OUTIMD.
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November 8, 2013 at 2:43 PM
And aamir will say same thing for salman’s Jai hoo and salman thn back to Aamir’s P.K and vicious never ending circle and ego massaging will go on and ppl will go on discussing it threadbare…. 😉
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November 8, 2013 at 2:45 PM
It’s one thing to celebrate a film after it has achieved a certain gross and quite another thing to preemptively say this stuff. Don’t recall Aamir or Salman saying this sort of thing though I could be wrong.
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November 8, 2013 at 3:37 PM
I am not sure why he forgot RAM LEELA?? It is by Bhansali, who if he remembers, made GUZAARISH starring himself..
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November 8, 2013 at 3:11 PM
Go for #Krrish3 now and then go for ‘ Dhoom 3’ in sometime. I want it to go beyond my movie,” .#HrithikRoshan ! Really a selfless man.
This is where HR has Heart of Gold compare to other ego oriented stars.Record are created to be broken.
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November 8, 2013 at 3:24 PM
What is selfless about it? He know D3 will definitely cross k3. Actually, he is spreading false propaganda as if K3 is highest grossing movie and ultimate standard. Hypocrite Hrithik.
Why cant he wish D3 crosses CE?
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November 8, 2013 at 3:24 PM
Agree there sumon
THIS is called ‘class’–well done hritik
While some are already seeing ‘designs’ even in this healthy gesture…..
There’s a difference between what hritk says here and what aamir says/means when he says he doesn’t believe in numbers (!!)
Ps: in this regard, hritik (& even abhishrek!!) are far ahead the bickering plotting khans
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November 8, 2013 at 3:46 PM
The ‘PROBLEMS’ being aamir in dhoom3
Dhoom3 is built on the BIGGEST franchise in bolllywood.
The ONLY A-grade hero having being associated with dhoom has been hritik !!
aamir is only BENEFITTING from that franchise(& he knows it!!)
Dhoom3 has loads of ADDED box office friendly FRILLS-
Like Katrina –who is not much less than an a-grade hero currently ….
Like glorified sidekicks like abhishrek and uday…
The marketing acumen and power of the BIGGEST banner in Bollywood –yashraj
Compared to that Krrish3 is JUST hritik
With part contribution by Rakesh /filmkraft
Yeah, Satyam will point out –krrish is ALSO a franchise.,,
True –but THIS franchise is BUILT AROUND the BACKBONE called Hritik !!!
Take out aamir from dhoom3 -put in ANY top hero –results won’t be much different
Take out hritik from K3-put in ANYBODY–I mean ANYBODY from Bollywood–or even rest of the Indian fraternity–results won’t be half !!!!
So if dhoom3 makes more than krish 3 -is it of credit to aamir —
A big NO
The big question first is though–let aamir make that much first !!
There’s stuff ready even for that 🙂
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November 8, 2013 at 4:08 PM
You’re quite right. Abhishek had not come off his best career point when D2 released (Dhoom, BnB, Dus, Sarkar, BM, Guru to follow). He was not called ‘The Rising Prince’ for this reason on an India Today cover in mid’2005. Aishwarya just happened to be in the film. The first film in the franchise just happened to be a hit. And of course D2 didn’t have any other frills either like Bipasha Basu showing up.
As we all know Abhishek is in a better box office position right now. Aamir has just been struggling for hits in all kinds of genres for about a dozen years now (soon he’ll struggle more with Hirani).
And what’s your hilarious logic here? Not that the franchise gets credit but that Hrithik gets it for creating the franchise? Even by the Alice in Wonderland standards of the blogosphere that is pretty amusing.
Finally, yes, Krrish has no frills. It’s a serious drama where Hrithik the actor performs in every scene and if you don’t like this there’s nothing else there.
You’ve gone pretty goofy in recent times! Not very surprising, if you don’t like the results you see try and change the subject. Guess who’s making excuses now? LOL! What happened to the public being the final deciders and all that? Not apparently when it comes to D3!
Seriously though Sanjay Dutt deserves the credit for 3I.
I must also thank you for pointing out all such frills when Agneepath released…
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November 8, 2013 at 4:17 PM
LOL!
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November 8, 2013 at 4:22 PM
This is interesting..perhaps not the right thread but never the less..
Two Titans Of Cinema, Under One Roof
You know you’re in the presence of a legend when the audience, which has been eating out of your hands so far, begins heckling you when your questions run longer than they should. It is a sign that the audience will not be satisfied until they see and hear as much as humanly possible from the man they came to see. That the audience firmly believed that every moment Amitabh Bachchan spent silent on stage was a moment of this once-in-a-lifetime opportunity they would never get back. If TEHELKA Editor-in-chief Tarun Tejpal, who hosted the session, had ended it at the scheduled time, there might have been a mini-riot. Wisely, when the bell rang, he immediately assured the crowd that the talk would go on.
It was, as Tejpal said, the most starstruck session in THiNK’s history, as Bachchan and Robert De Niro, two titans of cinema whose names are known to millions, were both present under one roof. De Niro, who will formally take the stage on Sunday afternoon, was watching in the audience; and when the session finally ended, he came onto the stage for a photo-op for the ages.
Bachchan, who said that the presence of a live audience “always brings fear” of not being acceptable, of making mistakes, was reserved, but engaging. He spoke of his childhood in one of India’s most elite families, growing up in an atmosphere of literature and poetry (his mother let him follow his acting dreams since “one poet in the family [was] enough”), to parents who came from two entirely different backgrounds. Of his early struggles in the industry after being rejected as a newsreader by All India Radio. Of the heights he reached once he broke through as a leading man in Zanjeer and Abhimaan. Of the fall from his perch and bankruptcy, of his reinvention on the small screen through Kaun Banega Crorepati.
It is a cliché, but what shone through the session was Bachchan’s utter humility and the legendary work ethic (he made sure, he said, that he would never miss a call time). Asked repeatedly to describe what goes into his decision to choose which films to do, he replied, “I’m bad at picking scripts; I just took work whenever I could. I just wanted what I was doing to be acceptable.” The younger crowd, he acknowledged, was more organised, more choosy when it came to their films. He talked about the blind faith he placed in his directors, how the only disagreements he’d have with them would be registered when the script was being narrated; once shooting would start, they would be boss.
At one point, Tejpal asked him whether the rumours of Indira Gandhi getting him his first break by writing a letter of recommendation were true. “I never saw the letter or anyone who got this letter. But,” he said, asking De Niro whether he agreed, “even a letter from God can’t get you a role in a film.”
Satyam, video of this can be found here (thinkworks.in) and if there is a way to put it here
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November 8, 2013 at 4:27 PM
Satyam–yeah I might be pulling aamir because you are pitting him against the box office might of hritk…
Aamir is way ahead in discretion, planning and script sense etc
But purely as a ‘star’ hritik is ahead (by a mile)…
Ps: but that doesn’t mean that u bring in poor abhishrek amongst these guys…
Let abhishrek do FIVE solo films
ANY banner
ANY heroine of choice
ANY release date
And ADD UP the total of those FIVE solo films of abhishrek —
Let them beat either k3 or d3 –then we will discuss abhishrek 🙂
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November 8, 2013 at 4:39 PM
Since we’re into quiz terrain name me a Hrithik solo other than the ones he has with his father that has big numbers. I’ll be generous and not count aliens as supporting actors.. ‘Nuff said.
Hopefully you won’t make me name the Aamir solos.. What does this prove? Hrithik’s ahead by a mile.
Now you can get back to your Krrish action figures..
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November 8, 2013 at 4:49 PM
“I’ll be generous and not count aliens as supporting actors.. ”
Hilarious. You’re on a roll.
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November 8, 2013 at 4:58 PM
Soon Apex will say as he has been for some days that you, I and Jay are the same person. Fantasy is really his thing..
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November 9, 2013 at 10:11 AM
what are the biggest grosser of his father when hrithik is not there
which are th johar’s production biggest hit in indian gross
ashutosh gowarikers in gross
zoya akhtar in gross…any idea with whom they are with
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November 9, 2013 at 10:20 AM
aliens where also there in joker(akshay kumar), love story 2050 etc
in india apart from mr india which bigger actiors so called science fiction movie has worked it was so easy
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November 8, 2013 at 5:38 PM
“Aamir is way ahead in discretion, planning and script sense etc
But purely as a ‘star’ hritik is ahead (by a mile)…”
Hrithik is not ahead of Aamir in any terms, not by a mile, not by a meter, not by a kilometer!
In his 25th year as a leading actor in cinema, Aamir Khan is on his way to have the highest grossing film in the history of indian cinema. Hrithik is a star, but the guy is limited by his acting and stardom. Ranbir has MUCH more potential IMO to become the next true “super star.” Actually Ranbir has already caught up with Hrithik amongst the younger generation. The 90’s (age group of 25-35) generation still belongs to the Khan’s and Aamir is a huge part of that following.
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November 8, 2013 at 9:51 PM
Agree about Aamir but Hrithik has a HUGE mass audience following, bigger than Aamir, and maybe even SRK. Ranbir is a long way from having this and by the looks of his next few movies, it doesn’t seem like his mass audience will grow. Plus his recent attempt at a wooing the mass audience was an epic disaster. Ranbir is a great actor but there’s something about him that makes him seem like a sissy/too feminine. I get the same feeling from Imran Khan. Ranveer Singh seems like the only young actor capable of developing a mass audience but the guy is damn annoying and a semi-buffoon.
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November 8, 2013 at 9:52 PM
This is in response to AamirsFan’s comment.
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November 9, 2013 at 10:50 AM
After pretending that it was only about the box office Apex suddenly introduces these qualifiers when it’s Aamir. Genre for genre the man gets the biggest initial around but we’re supposed to believe that Hrithik somehow has the bigger following! Which of course cannot be verified in any box office sense! Not my terms but those Apex has chosen for so long. And it’s particularly curious to launch this argument because Hrithik has been extremely mortal the moment he moves away from a very commercial genre. And even within these there’s a big difference between Filmkraft and everything else. The only big success he has since his debut is D2 (hardly a solo!). Other than this Agneepath opened big but didn’t sustain. But ok by the standards of today it worked but this had lots of frills to it too. It’s even more curious to make this argument when the Krrish 3 numbers make quite clear that it’s light years away from any standard that the previous Krrish lived upto! Forget this, it’s in all probability not even going to touch CE (leaving aside Taran’s numbers.. and even here it might only touch those) which is hardly SRK’s biggest film the way that OSO was or perhaps HNY will be (again in the sense of having a lot else going on in the film). It gets to a point (and this happens with many fans) where any kind of result somehow makes the star! And these are the guys who were making fun of me for saying that a 90 crore gross for Talaash all said and done was pretty good. Not optimal, might have done a bit more but no one else could have done more with this genre. And again the idea that not Aamir, not even the franchise history, but Hrithik deserves the credit for whatever D3 does is completely daft!
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November 9, 2013 at 11:22 AM
I think there is some insecurity suddenly in apex’s views.
Excuses are already being prepared for D3 whatever result. Anything less than Krrish 3 and we will be hearing the Hrithik is better than Aamir. Anything slightly more and pretty much the same. Anything significantly more and Hrithik will begin to get the credit!!!
Ha!
It’s like saying Aamir’s Lagaan made Gowariker and than Jodha Akbar’s success should be attributed to Aamir.
The logic is flawed.
Come Dec 22nd, most of apex’s questions will be answered one way or the other.
Poor actors, they truly do end up with some poor fans!
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November 9, 2013 at 1:05 PM
chennai express is family oriented movie with a director who himself is brand and a red hot female lead who is striking gold in multiplex with an extensive promotion(forget srk)
let me asked you honestly:
krrish 3 with bad music, no skin show or item number , outdated and worn out trailer , a genre which itself in last year has fetched ra 1 has lot going against it …see response
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November 9, 2013 at 5:34 PM
You can’t have it both ways. Apex has also said the same thing. Presumably the people who like the film don’t think it’s bad! when one doesn’t get enough of a benchmark gross one can’t say that ‘hey this is good for a bad film’. This is exactly what SRK fans say. ‘Ra One still crossed a 100’. As if it was going to stop at 40! And if everything I’m saying weren’t true Kites would also have made as much let alone a dozen other Hrithik films.
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November 9, 2013 at 6:19 PM
FIRSTLY let’s take Abhishrek out of this debate –it’s not fair to the guy ….he has my best luck to resurrect his career first before posing threat to anyone -last of all those like aamir or hritik!!!
Now coming to aamir v hritik…
the KEY point here is that Hritik is more than TEN years JUNIOR than aamir and NOT exactly a contemporary at all..
So it’s but natural that Aamirs filmography is bigger than hritik
And with due respect, aamir has been brilliant and has excelled in his choices and moves…
Let’s dissect Aamirs RECENT illustrious filmography ..
To start with–I love aamir on most of these films but NOT in the ‘worshiper fanboy’ mode that’s been pedalled here…
Ghajini–remake of South Indian HIT
which itself was remake of memento !!!!
(Note the originality & ‘risk taking’!)
Tzp-the writer/director amol Gupte was chucked out and aamir ‘took over’ the responsibility of ‘direction’
Three idiots–took over from Sanjay dutt who clicked big time in munnabhai, with perhaps the best all-round contemporary mani stream director hirani coming off two blockbusters
(Talk about risk taking!)
‘Originality’– ‘adapted’ from chetan bhagatsalreqsy successful novel—spat with bhagat over crediting issues!!
Peepli live–aamir did not act in it-though creditably ‘backed’ it
spat (again!) with the female director over crediting issues !!!
Dhoom3–the only a-grade actor associated with the franchise was hritik! in an essentially b-rung actors dhoom1…
Biggest franchise in Bollywood
Biggest production house yashraj
Biggest heroine (other than deeps)– katrina
Taking over from the momentum left behind by –who else but Hritik himself !!!
Is it a credit if this one nets 250+? Not really,,,,
And now coming to the final nail in the coffin–
TALAASH
The ONLY original film recently in the true sense
TWO big heroines not one–Kareena in full skin show mode
Kareena as the ‘heart of gold’ prostitute (favourite with guys!)
Rani in a male-pleasing ‘wife role’
Handle bar moustache in a macho cop role
One of the biggest prodcution house excel
THREE years after three idiots ….
And what does aamir deliver—
The ONLY film by an a-grade hero in the last two three years NOT even reaching 80-90 crores (trumped by raaz!!!)
Nuff said 🙂
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November 9, 2013 at 6:51 PM
think Hrithik might be ahead of Amitabh Bachchan. After all the latter has had more than 40 years… On a related note I heard De Niro was disappointed at that Tehelka event. He was expecting Hrithik.
In fairness to you I should say Rakesh Roshan agrees completely with you.
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November 9, 2013 at 8:09 PM
ROFLOL..
If there were a candy bar for each of the ‘logical’ clauses laid out, I think some would be millionaires by now..
Never knew ‘handle bar’ mustache was a big draw at the box office!! And I am wondering if there is a secret, special ‘Reema Kagti’ Director’s Cut where Kareena indulges in ALL the bed-room/chair antics of a prostitute. How did I miss that? It has to be. If the desi men keep getting hard-ons merely for the fact that Kareena enacts a prostitute’s role, man, 3 cheers to our libido. At least we are ‘up’ above the rest of the world at least in one area!! And I also never knew that ‘family ‘people would flock to Aamir’s film expecting BLUE IS THE WARMEST COLOR!
It’s better I stay away from these – makes no sense when people keep trying to fit in a square peg in a round hole..
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November 10, 2013 at 3:11 AM
“It’s better I stay away from these….” really? vow that is as good news as D3 making 600 cr …..
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November 10, 2013 at 6:20 PM
Haha idea…
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November 10, 2013 at 10:25 PM
Not really sure what you trying to say or what you even understood out of my comment and its context..but hey if it helps you crack jokes only you and Apex can follow, go for it!!
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November 10, 2013 at 10:26 PM
This is in reply to Janak..
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November 11, 2013 at 12:01 AM
An Jo – I am seriously trying to encourage apex to cut down on his unnecessary comments on this BO thread…..
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November 11, 2013 at 2:23 AM
Taran adarsh retweets
. #BusinessTalk Rs 200 cr Club has a new member @Krrish3
bollywoodhungama.com/box-office/bus…
Haha yo 🙂
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November 11, 2013 at 3:34 PM
To heck with BOI …
Taran adarsh tweeted yesterday
. @iHrithik ‘s @Krrish3 becomes the fastest film to cross the Rs 200 cr mark…
bollywoodhungama.com/box-office
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November 11, 2013 at 3:39 PM
ROFL..you pasted the same thing yesterday too!!! Sorry not yesterday, today!!
We get it, Roshans can buy groceries without any trouble now!!
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November 11, 2013 at 3:54 PM
Hahah rockstar–timely link
-this is a setback to those who have suddenly started quoting ‘box office India’ as the ‘holy grail’ do indian box office —
Whilst BOIs own website says this–
“YOU ACKNOWLEDGE THAT BOXOFFICEINDIA.COM AND ITS AFFILIATES DO NOT CONTROL, REPRESENT OR ENDORSE THE ACCURACY, COMPLETENESS OR RELIABILITY OF ANY OF THE INFORMATION AVAILABLE ON THE WEB SITE”
🙂
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November 11, 2013 at 3:20 PM
The sudden ‘good standard’– BOI
well, it’s been a long time since box office figures have been trivialised and made fun of here. Boi is supposed to be biased, have agenda, modify commentary and so on
Live never been interested in these box office minutiae not only because I don’t see the point in fighting over 10 crores in a total of 200(!)) but also because the box office ‘food chain’ is v complex esp in India, so there are many others factors that we can’t take uno account
Aldo lots of tweaks are fine for income tax liability purposes…
This is NOT to condone taran and his ilk, but it’s interesting how in the discussions of krrish 3 box office, suddenly the SAMS Box office India figures are being quoted and held up by the SAME usual suspects who dissed them earlier 🙂
The SAME guys who wrote paras and long essays in discrediting ‘box office India’ are suddenly claiming BOI is the ultimate gold standard (!)
And it doesn’t take rocket science to figure it why…
This sudden elevation of boi as the GOLD standard (even when they haven’t even included the dubbed versions!) and are being alleged of under quoting figures is really somethign worth watching
Actually this is the ultimate admission of the box office force of Krrish 3 and ultimately Hritik Roshan 🙂
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November 11, 2013 at 3:42 PM
http://www.boxofficeindia.com/cpages.php?pageName=disc
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November 11, 2013 at 3:51 PM
Just read the above krrish3 review by filmigirl –wow
What an unbiased, evolved, sensible review that doesn’t overintellectualise things for the sake of appearing cool (as is common)….
She also correctly picks up the character graphs of the lead characters here and finally nails it as to the type of actor HR is…
Bravo filmigirl —
And as usual, filmigirl rips apart her pet hate PC 🙂
Exerpts—
Hrithik Roshan is a very deliberate actor and very physical actor. Watching him over the years, you can see how he fully inhabits the body of his characters. So, it was fascinating to see the indifference with which he played his scenes with his on-screen wife Priya and this indifference fully set the tone of the character of Krishna for me. Krishna is a man ripped from an idyllic life in the countryside and thrust into an urban, upper-middleclass lifestyle that has no meaning to him. Priya is happy as a clam, with her career as a TV news person and endless stream of designer frocks but Krishna takes no pleasure in it and, worse, he can’t seem to find the knack of holding a “normal” job–security guard, waiter.
Moving on to the two ladies of Krrish 3, Priya and Kaya, heroine and vamp, respectively. I was dreading Priya’s role going in, if for no other reason than she was played by Priyanka Chopra, but the two things that have bothered me the most about Priyanka’s screen presence where neutralized quite well here by Rakesh (proving yet again that he knows exactly what I like in a film). The first is her propensity to wear way too much make-up and way too few clothes for characters that are supposed to be ordinary women. This was successfully poked fun at within the first ten minutes of the film, which combined with Priya’s fancy TV hosting job, was just a nice acknowledgement that Priyanka’s glam act is an act, and one put on by wealthy women. The second is that she seems incapable of acting like a mature grown woman, putting on a grating “cute and girlish” act that has only grown worse as she’s gotten older. What’s tolerable at an adorably dim 22 is far less so in a woman over 30 and there is a scene late in the film that has–for plot reasons–Priyanka acting as Kaya acting as Priya. The sarcastic edge this gives Priyanka’s usual flighty heroine act was really effective. I’m not sure if Priyanka intended it this way but I thought it worked very well in the film.
As for Kaya, her character was the closest I’ve seen to the vamp with a heart of gold in a long time. Besides the fact that Kangana Ranaut is just electric on screen, I thought Kaya was a fascinating character. She is a manimal, created by Kaal to be obedient to him, even as he treats her like shit and orders her around like a robot. When she meets Krishna, she’s touched by his kindness–literally touched. Physical contact done with love and tenderness is something she’s never experienced and neither is praise. When Kaya, who is unconsciously becoming more sympathetic to Krishna, pulls a Krrish and helps a small child, she’s stunned by the applause and gratitude of the crowd. She asks, “What did I do?”
Perhaps I’m biased because the non-human who finds a soul and learns to love is one of my favorite science-fiction tropes but I loved Kaya. And I appreciated that she got to make her own decisions in the end and use her life in the way she thought was best. I also have to say that the bizarre picturization for “Dil Tu Hi Bataa,” filmed in Jordan and featuring Kangana decked out in some elaborate headdresses, makes a lot more sense when it’s clear that the song is from Kaya’s point of view. The desert can be seen to represent her previously empty heart and the odd styling… well, who am I to judge what a manimal would find fashionable?
The last two major characters are Rohit, the father, and Kaal, the villain–two different faces of wisdom. One has morals and the other is concerned with profit. You can guess how that confrontation goes; making money is not an end in itself in Rakesh Roshan’s world. His message is simple: Love, Peace, and Hrithik.
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November 11, 2013 at 5:59 PM
The above review by filmigirl is an example of what I call a wholesome sensible review
Wherein the reviewer (irrespective of his/her antecedents) tries to get the tone/texture/target audience of the film and gets the ESSENCE right
The rest is usually peppering with jokes/anecdotes and I don’t mind them for eg here filmigirl lambasts PC excessively though the reality is that poor PC did not do anything wrong
But it’s ok to have these likes/dislikes
But it shouldn’t distract from the overall ‘schemata’
Ps: filmigirl is brief about HR but gets it spot on
I may elaborate sometime what makes HR what he is…
It’s not an accident/fluke/looks/dance only !!!
Ps2:suggest rangan and his followers should try this type of earnest review –it’s not an accident that Rangan finds similar admirers as we’ll lol
Ps3: a brilliant description of kaaya aka kangana..
“When she meets Krishna, she’s touched by his kindness–literally touched. Physical contact done with love and tenderness is something she’s never experienced and neither is praise.”
I was right –The apt casting for Kaaya was certainly anu 🙂
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November 11, 2013 at 4:56 PM
No one elevated BOI or anyone else here. At least not for anyone who can read and understand English. You’re unfortunately following the well-trodden path SRK fans first developed. Of attacking the messenger when the news isn’t to your liking or when you feel that the slightest bit of credit is being taken away from your favorite star. I don’t think that people who try to give credit to Hrithik for D3’s potential success and pretend Aamir is reaping the benefits really have a leg to stand on when it comes to questions of honesty! Every single thing I’ve said in my comments you’ve more or less proved. Being a partisan of a star (which is different from being a fan.. how? a partisan tries to alter ‘reality’ to shape his or her perspective) perhaps all of this is wholly natural to you but what you don’t realize is that you’re not really making a case here. You’re just confirming with every comment that you are ‘fanatical’ about Hrithik. And you’re hardly alone with this kind of attitude because many stars have these kinds of fans all of whom think that simply attacking anyone who dares to question the star in any way gets one to the desired goal. Taran or BOI or whatever narrative one favors isn’t one’s savior because those guys will easily move on to the next film in a matter of days or weeks! And so even here the ‘honesty’ is lacking on your side because if you want to go by Taran you can’t then unilaterally decide that Ranbir isn’t comparable to hrithik at the box office (when everyone was asserting the opposite after YJHD) nor can you unilaterally say things about Aamir. If one is not available to any kind of reasonable debate in these matters one cannot suddenly pretend to be more ‘subtle’ when it’s about stars one doesn’t like or at least is anxious about. Nor can one play this ‘hey I’m just quoting one important source Taran’ game. Specially when he’s just quoting producer totals himself! Forget BOI, why is it that from BoC to NBOC all of whom have numbers closer to BOI you’ve never made much attention? Aren’t you also showing a desperation to somehow have Hrithik get to 200, the way SRK fans were earlier or Salman fans or whoever? Taran could be adding a 100 crores and calling the film at 250 right now and you’d still say the same thing. Why? Is one forced to simply accept things this way? When one clearly knows there’s something very dubious about these claims? Again you are free to do all of this but let’s not pretend others are being dishonest and what not. If I were a true Hrithik fan, which I’m not in any sense (not even a fan of his), I actually would find the Krrish result somewhat dismaying, not least because it would confirm in my mind a certain stagnation on hrithik’s part but furthermore it would also tell me that even in his strongest genre he’s falling way behind his earlier benchmarks. Is he a top star? Absolutely. But that was evident after his first film! The rest has been about a fits and starts career where despite having this box office potential no one has ever (yes EVER) put him ahead of whoever his strongest peers happened to be. Desperation can’t cover this gap. Assuming that one still maintains some contact with reality (always a dangerous assumption on a blog I know). I still have nothing against Krrish in any ideological sense (the way I sometimes do with SRK’s films) but I found it an appalling piece of cinema (I did not at all mind the older Krrish), about as unwatchable as Ra One. Appalling as narrative, appallingly handled SFX, so on and so forth. Compared to this the last Krrish was a great classic. I’m not partisan when it comes to judging this stuff. I found CE quite engaging recently. And even though YJHD was watchable for the genre I found it every bit as poor as many other films from the Johar camp in this context. And yeah I haven’t liked a major release more than Talaash in recent times (might be forgetting something). Krrish is utterly awful. An embarrassment in my view much like Ra One. Yeah I’d rather watch both in the same day than sit through Drona. But that doesn’t mean much!
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November 10, 2013 at 6:10 AM
Man…….do you purposely write dumb or is this a God given talent?
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November 10, 2013 at 8:28 AM
Krrish3 enters the 200 crores club
‘Krrish 3’, Hrithik Roshan’s Bollywood superhero film franchise, with sensational box office collections has entered Bollywood’s elite Rs 200 crore club on the seventh day (November 7) of its release.
Noted film critic Taran Adarsh tweeted the box office collections figures: @Krrish3 collects 13.44 Cr on day 7. Domestic Total 166.52 cr. Overseas 36 cr. Worldwide 202.42 cr.
As of November 7, ‘Krrish 3’ has collected Rs. 166.52 in India and with ‘fatal’ reviews of the only release this weekend, it seems that ‘Krrish 3’ is still in the running!
‘Krrish 3’ now joins Aamir Khan’s ‘3 Idiots’ and Shah Rukh Khan’s ‘Chennai Express’ in the Rs 200 crore club. However, King Khan’s ‘Chennai Express’ still retains its spot as the fastest film to reach the Rs 100 crore mark, in just 4 days.
On the fifth day of its release, ‘Krrish 3’ had already entered Bollywood’s elite Rs 100 crore club.
Third film in the series, ‘Krrish 3’ created history by registering the highest collections ever on a single day, having garnered Rs 35.91 crore on Monday.
http://www.financialexpress.com/news/krrish-3-in-rs-200-crore-club-with-sensational-box-office-collections/1192833
Ps: don’t wanna get into the bickering of whose figures are correct but as per one major estimate, krrish3 has breached a major landmark
Congrats to the team of hritik and krrish3 –sympathies for those working hard to pull it down /discredit it
🙂
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November 10, 2013 at 9:12 AM
there is an elementary error in this article. Even Taran has it at 200 crores at that point only with a worldwide gross. But with 3I or CE only the domestic totals are being referred to. CE for instance must have reached its worldwide 200 much earlier than its domestic one! Also if one is just going by a worldwide 200 many other films would join such a list!
Now it’s a different matter that Taran being 40-45 crores ahead of other estimates at this point the film will cross 200 even domestically. But it’s not there yet. The article is simply false even going by Taran’s numbers. of course going by these other estimates it’s still unlikely to do much more than 185.
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November 10, 2013 at 2:36 PM
It would seem K3 may not get to 200 crores per BOI numbers. Again, one of those films that has a massive initial but not so great trending. Eventual total will be fairly big regardless of whether it makes it to 200 or not.
It IS some sort of sucess for sure but am sure Roshans must have hoped for more.
Hapoened to catch five min of it on a pirated DVD and thought this might be actually fun on big screen!
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November 11, 2013 at 9:56 AM
Think the producer and its cohorts like Taran had decided beforehand to ensure this movie goes past 226 crs before Ram leela releases. Must say they are well on track. I am sure this movie has done closer to the BOI numbers than the producers. But who can prove it anyways?. One things certain though, the movie has been liked and has trended well after that start and is a hit at the very least. Think this will end around 190 crores in BOI and around 270 crores in Tarans book…
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November 8, 2013 at 4:23 PM
“Abhishek had not come off his best career point when D2 released ”
Bringing in poor abhishrek amongst the likes of aamir and hritik ? Hahah
It’s like discussing Namibia in a G8 summit…
Ps : hiya sanju –how r u –hope u had a nice ‘break’
How’s your playmate anu–did she teach u naughty stuff 🙂
Am busy with some work–will be back soon ….
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November 8, 2013 at 9:03 PM
When Aamir Khan acquired a six-pack (or eight-pack or whatever) for Ghajini, it was still a novelty, It was the first time a serious actor… Stars like Shah Rukh Khan in Om Shanti Om.
I think in normal calenders 2007 comes before 2008 and OSO released in 2007. But i am not surprised by this misteke on the part of Rangan and nor surprised by the esteemed member of this blog who get orgism on every point about thier adopted idol Aamir (Thier real idols are Sr and Jr Bachchan but at preasent they are dead horse in BO). That is why they find infinite loopholes in Krish 3 but not in Dhoom 3 where thier adopted idol runs in a building downward. Then they call fans of other stars Dishonest.
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November 9, 2013 at 2:41 AM
I was just going to type the error of rangan.. as OSO was prior to Ghajini… but was sure someone would have pointed the error.. and here i find dj!.. OSO 6 pack was well publicised and quite a craze.. i remember…
hoping all well at your end…
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November 8, 2013 at 9:09 PM
“I’ll be generous and not count aliens as supporting actors.”
Pls be a little bit generous ot Abhishek and Uday also in Dhoom series. I think both of them are importent for Dhoom franchise. They are as importent as ‘ay’ an ‘okAY’. You see OKay can’t be completed without ‘ay’ so Dhoom can’t be completed without ‘A’bhishek and uda’Y’
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November 8, 2013 at 9:11 PM
Satyam why my comments getting lost. I posted 2 comments but there is only one.
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November 8, 2013 at 9:45 PM
I see two comments here..
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November 9, 2013 at 12:28 AM
Man this looks wonderfully quirky..Mads is rocking in this one..
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November 9, 2013 at 12:58 AM
Thakela Dull trailer 😦 Disappointing.
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November 9, 2013 at 1:31 AM
Krrish 3 Holds Strong On Day 8
Saturday 9th November 2013 10.30 IST
Boxofficeindia.Com Trade Network
Krrish 3 held up well on day eight with collections around the 7.50 crore nett mark. The Gujarat area is still on holiday which is an advantage to the film. The weekend collections should go to 30 crore nett or higher. The record for second weekend is 33 crore nett by 3 Idiots. The business of Krrish 3 so far is as follows.
Friday – 18.75 crore
Saturday – 15.50 crore
Sunday – 15 crore
Monday – 31.50 crore
Tuesday – 20.50 crore
Wednesday 13 crore
Thursday – 9 crore nett
Friday – 7.50 crore nett
TOTAL – 130.25 crore nett
K3 will now going to beat 3 idiot 2nd week record.
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November 9, 2013 at 7:35 AM
This is a good Fri number. Not sure about the weekend but by BOI’s numbers the film will find it hard to cross 185.
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November 9, 2013 at 10:09 AM
I think its possible for a 50 crore second week here. Depends on how the weekdays hold. COuld put it in the 170-175 crore bracket…
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November 9, 2013 at 10:43 AM
yes I agree that’s very much possible.. beyond this though, at least by the non-Taran numbers it’s unlikely to do much more than 185. Unless it holds up surprising well in week 3 despite the competition. Basically the most likely scenario here is an ETT/YJHD kind of total. Better trending than ETT of course but not at CE level.Can’t recall what YJHD’s first week was, if the trending was better than this but in any case that film over performed given that it was just a multiplex deal and hardly a film of the scale of ETT or Krrish.
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November 9, 2013 at 7:37 AM
here too they have 7.6 crores:
http://www.boxofficeindia.co.in/krrish-3-day-eight-all-india-nboc/
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November 9, 2013 at 7:41 AM
assuming Taran has it around 9-10 crores on day 8 (he had it at 166 through Thu, 13.4 for Thu) the film will be at 175 by his count. A whopping 45 crore differential! A new record has been reached! Good to see Taran has been breaking his own records as well..!
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November 9, 2013 at 10:23 AM
if it was so easy i mean
thing is give credit where its due atleast jodha akbar a historical worked and some great actors didn’t managed it with mangal pandey or ashoka
hrithik is still a close to a decade younger than his so called so called senior actors
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November 9, 2013 at 11:35 AM
True Hrithik is younger. The conjecture I would say is that by this time the equivalent for Salman (13 years in the industry in 2001) he already had a MPK/HAHK, SRK (in 2004) had DDLJ/KKHH and a streak going on from 2001-2004 and Aamir (in 2001) had RH and the Lagaan moment.
Hrithik in comparison has never been as “hot” as a commodity than post his debut! He also has not had a “monster” box office hit in the ATBB side. Still plenty of time on his side, but he won’t achieve much with K3 going forward, age will catch up on these types of films.
He simply is a big star but at no point in his career has he been considered #1. The closest was 2006 and than he took an 18 month break.
The “Khans” can at least lay claim to some kind of golden patch. SRK (01-04), Aamir (07-09) and Salman (10-12) where most what they touched was successful.
But this whole #1 debate or which star is bigger is rather vague nowadays. The idea that an actor not associated with a film can get the credit for its success is pretty amusing!
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November 9, 2013 at 11:38 AM
And if your going to compare Aamir and Hrithik compare ZNMD and Talaash. Not a big difference in gross, but the former considered a “hit” and the latter considered a “disappointment”. And compare the genres, the former a multiplex movie – coming of age type and the latter a psychological thriller with a pretty grim dark theme.
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November 9, 2013 at 12:42 PM
in same language:
leave hot and bb when this guy is around with his much senior colleagues he has given highest grosser of the year ( so called number 1 theory)
kaho naa pyar hai, k3g, dhoom 2 , koi mil gaya , krrish, jodha akbar is massive in there repective year … what more any want and hardly has anyone had any better record so early( and here i am not including agneepath and znmd)
take any source and ya dhoom 3 is not solo its indeed however bad abhishek bachchan is performing he has some pull in multiplex and this is franchise built on -ve heroes
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November 9, 2013 at 12:49 PM
it took mr khan something like 25 years and massive hard work to built something like talaash but you remember something it has some hype:
mr khan coming after 3 years that to after 3 idiots
team of farhan’s production and mr khan after dch and ya not one but 2 big heroines, mr khan ironically in his last film was paired with kareena only(3 idiots) the same movie which has repeat value both in tv and dvd circuit
initial aise hi nahi mil gaya
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November 9, 2013 at 12:58 PM
why should i compare znmd with talash … in the meantime mr roshan has experimented in movies like guzaarish and had special appearance in kazy4( ya rakesh roshan production which bombed and even kites largely due to many english dialogue) and something like playing second fiddle to farhan akhtar in luck by chance
he was not lying compleately low to maximise initial
did mangal pandey worked no but jodha akbar did
did mela worked(the bad remake of sholay) but something like agneepath did
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November 9, 2013 at 5:37 PM
Apex is at least not guilty of this but otherwise there is in many quarters this ‘nationalist’ appropriation of Hrithik. This was also in the air after KNPH to a degree. I think you’re unfortunately succumbing to this.
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November 9, 2013 at 1:39 PM
Apex: A fertilizer commercial 🙂
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November 9, 2013 at 5:58 PM
Thanx munna–that’s really an ‘uplifting’ commercial–(nearly) did it’s ‘job’ 🙂
“did mangal pandey worked no but jodha akbar did
did mela worked(the bad remake of sholay) but something like agneepath did”
Haha that’s true…
Yeah ‘facts’ don’t really matter in ‘fandom’ land …
Ps: also come good points by dj, sumon, raj5…
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November 9, 2013 at 5:52 PM
“krrish 3 with bad music, no skin show or item number , outdated and worn out trailer , a genre which itself in last year has fetched ra 1 has lot going against it …see response”
Well said rockstar..
It’s becoming increasingly difficult for Satyam ..
As I said the ‘black robe’ is shrinking day by day–it’s looking like a ‘bikini’ now-wonder what shall be the state in a few days 🙂
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November 9, 2013 at 6:54 PM
In short–
A true STAR is one who can pump life (& box office!) into a project like krrish3 that’s stale, cheesy, dated, risky (no other superhero film has worked in Bollywood ever!!) and take it to safety and beyond ….
NOT one
Who takes UNNNATURAL breaks and employs his excellent script sense, timing and undeniable grip over film financing into film choices and PIGGY BACKS choicest projects,,,
I know the above description is UNFAIR for aamir who is an above average actor( can be brilliant at times) and I’m a big fan of his satyamev Jayate initiative
BUT
when one compares Aamirs pull and STARDOM to someone like hritik and even srk and Salman, the fan frenzy generated by aamir falls short ( to blogs like this!)
And aamir being an intelligent guy knows it more than his fans!!
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November 9, 2013 at 7:02 PM
So fans of stupid films which are successful have bigger stars then ‘good’ films which are successful. What does that say about fans of stupid films?
The box office is not always pure stardom. There is a premium in certain instances or goodwill and aamir has earnt that. And mind you aamir has done some poor stuff of the srk, hrithik standard. Fanaa, ishq, raja Hindustani. All were hits.
Guys like you try to create the impression of ‘knowing cinema’ … Admit to the cheeniness of a krrish3 and then attempt to celebrate it as well. Lol what a confused soul you are.
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November 9, 2013 at 7:11 PM
Haha now u r clutching to straws and getting irate
Besides lurking at odd hours to ‘defend’ aamir
C’mon aamir doesn’t need such defense
And doesn’t need anyone’s ‘certificate’–least of all mine.
I myself have loved most of aamirs films but a definitive ‘crowd puller’ he ain’t …
As for dhoom3–it should do north of 250crores and will do so…
Aamir will get loads of money and another record but not credit
🙂
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November 9, 2013 at 7:01 PM
“think Hrithik might be ahead of Amitabh Bachchan”— I don’t agree with u there 🙂
It’s difficult between aamir and HR but the difference in seniority Isn’t that much
And BOTH have long gaps between releases (and I find both guilty of this unnatural interval)
But where it comes to PURE STARDOM—HR>aamir
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November 9, 2013 at 7:41 PM
To add to the expanding list of Aamirs ‘original’ films recently —
Dhoom3 lifted from ‘now you see me’ !!!
Ps: I haven’t seen the dhoom3 trailer yet nor the original film
But this should be worrying for aamir fans
Ps2: I can’t confirm or deny the accuracy of these reports-will leave that to the public 🙂
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November 10, 2013 at 3:38 AM
Krrish 3 Has Huge Jump On Second Saturday
Sunday 10th November 2013 10.30 IST
Boxofficeindia.Com Trade Network
Krrish 3 had a huge jump on Saturday of around 40% with collections of around 10.50 crore nett. This makes the two day second week total 18 crore nett. It will be the second film in history to go over 30 crore nett for the second weekend. The first being 3 Idiots.
The second weekend record is 33 crore nett plus of 3 Idiots which may be out of reach of Krrish 3 as it will have to collect over 15 crore nett on Sunday which looks tough.
Krrish 3 in Hindi has now collected around 141 crore nett in nine days which is the same level as lifetime business of films like Dabangg and Bodyguard and by the end of its second weekend it will be the fifth highest grosser ever.
As predicted best trending movie since 3 idiot.
Sunday can be between 12-15 crore.
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November 10, 2013 at 7:41 AM
Apex……might be a good idea to use that thing inside your head before you post videos from zee news about how D3 is copy of a hollywood movie that came out THIS YEAR. Since you are a movie fan ( I presume), you should know that majority of D3 was already shot by November of 2012.
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November 10, 2013 at 8:18 AM
@ cool ‘dud’–well I may use that thing in my mind but perhaps it’s not an option u have got!!
Or else u would have read that I’m not supporting or denying this allegation. All I’ve done is posted a link that’s been shown on a news channel site (not even a blog!!)
If u have such sharp defensive tendencies for aamir and d3–go knock on the news channels door m8 !!!
Also bolllywood doesn’t exactly work on a ‘bound script’ route anyways and there is always room for ‘improvisation’ till the last moment. And one can’t rule it out here in d3 for a few scenes & he trailer being tweaked…
If are so naive about the workings of Bollywood–I also presume u are a fan–go check Your basics….
As for being over defensive about aamir and d3– u are feel to do so but don’t come again giving free advice to others ….
And don’t u try to tell me what I can post or not –that’s not your prerogative-there’s an efficient moderator who routinely deletes /modifies stuff here
Don’t u try to impose a ‘censorship’ of your own about what aamir or d3 is and is being shown in news media –
So don’t get your knickers in a twist (a favorite phrase I’ve learnt here!) or else that knicker may get knocked off 🙂
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November 10, 2013 at 2:34 PM
exactly the answer I expected from someone who does not know how to use his brain.
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November 10, 2013 at 4:05 PM
U got exactly the type of answer your intial comment deserved!!! & u will keep getting the same treatment no matter which name u post with lol
And why were u expecting ‘intelligence’ here…if u didn’t understand any reasoning given above..
Be worried about your knickers now rather than dishing out intelligence certificates to me… ::-)
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November 10, 2013 at 5:27 PM
Good going Sherlock…..keep it up.
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November 10, 2013 at 6:22 PM
Thanx-that’s better….
And I’ve noticed that u are actually a ‘dudette’ not a ‘dude’…
Now plz stop flashing your knickers–it’s not cool 🙂
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November 10, 2013 at 8:20 AM
Annjo-don’t agree with anything here
But I give u a pass for mentioning the name of a flick I wanna watch soon
‘Blue is the warmest color’
Starring our own sanju and anu
Ps: Satyam was caught Watching it-how was it Satyam and whose ‘performance’ was better 🙂
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November 10, 2013 at 10:32 AM
This time also Bigboss is doing well courtesy Salman Khan. The way he handles the inmates is really worth watching.
And comedy nights by Kapil has some moments though it is somewhat crass and lacks class.
Anil Kapoor’s 24 hours has caught the imagination of viewers who are fed up of saas bahu nonsense. And there are stars from anil kapoor to shabana azmi rubbing shoulders with tv stars. While in films he is more of a baffoon , on TV anil kapoor is quite good.
Colors is really offering something different and better than Star Plus and Zee which are depending on staple saas bahu stupid dramas and boring costume half baked mythologicals and historicals.
This time KBC is not doing that well. Too much competition. But it is holding well and is the sole star on Sony at present.
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November 10, 2013 at 10:35 AM
I saw Madras Cafe. It is really good and bold. Better than CE, YJHD which also I saw.
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November 10, 2013 at 4:09 PM
Wow sanju–so uve been watching lots of stuff
“I saw Madras Cafe. It is really good and bold. “– hmm how was nargis fakhris work…
Sanju–Why don’t u write your review on CE & Yjhd … 🙂
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November 10, 2013 at 7:17 PM
In bigboss there is a Katrina lookalike Elli and Salman is quite fond of her.
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November 11, 2013 at 2:27 AM
Thanx for the update sanju-seems u know my ‘tastes/interests’ well 🙂
May check out bits of big boss–guess its available online as well. Who is elli and who are your favourite contestant(s)….
Btw
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November 11, 2013 at 2:35 AM
elli.
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November 11, 2013 at 4:09 PM
Thanx sanju–not only my interests, but u seem to be getting influenced by my tastes as well (like some others lol)
Just got introduced to elli-Even I like Elli (what a surprise!)…
🙂
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November 10, 2013 at 3:28 PM
btw .. no one pasted Satya 2 numbers here .. 🙂
This has performed the unimaginably poor. It washed out in range of any unknown small budget movie .. life time will be less than 2 Crore .. heck even KRK’s deshdrohi had double collections.
Is there any chance of RGV’s comeback ?? Here question is not about how good or bad movies he made. He build a horrible image among general public (media equally responsible) and even 5 star movie will not change their mind.
RGV is at dead end without U turn (despite churning out many good movies, even Satya-2 is not bad)
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November 10, 2013 at 3:35 PM
Read an article that said Satya 2 is RGV’s 16 flop in a row. I think he’s a lost cause
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November 10, 2013 at 3:34 PM
Good positive article on RGV after quite a long .. http://www.mensxp.com/entertainment/celeb-trends/20961-visionaries-of-cinema-ram-gopal-varma.html
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November 10, 2013 at 4:03 PM
November 10, 2013
Marvel’s ‘Thor’ Soars to Top of U.S.-Canada Movie Charts
By REUTERS
LOS ANGELES/NEW YORK — Marvel superhero Thor pounded his box office competitors over the weekend, muscling movie sequel “Thor: The Dark World” to the top of U.S. and Canadian charts with a hefty $86.1 million in debut ticket sales.
The 3D film starring Chris Hemsworth trounced last week’s top movies. Raunchy comedy “Jackass Presents: Bad Grandpa” finished in second place with $11.3 million from Friday through Sunday, according to Hollywood.com.
“Free Birds,” the 3D movie featuring the voices of Owen Wilson and Woody Harrelson as turkeys who team up and travel back in time to get turkey off Thanksgiving dinner plates, earned the No. 3 slot with $11.2 million, just ahead of senior citizen buddy comedy “Last Vegas” which took in $11.1 million.
“Thor: The Dark World” also hauled in $94 million from international markets, where the movie began playing on October 30, distributor Walt Disney Co said. IMAX showings added another $11 million globally, and its combined global sales through Sunday reached $327 million.
The new “Thor” installment co-stars Natalie Portman as the love interest for Thor, the mighty god of thunder who battles to save his homeland of Asgard from evil forces. Tom Hiddleston plays Thor’s villainous brother Loki.
“Thor 2” fell a bit short of industry forecasts that it would kick off with up to $92 million at North American (U.S. and Canadian) theaters. But the sequel opened stronger than the original movie, which debuted with $65.7 million in May 2011.
Thor also appeared in 2012 smash hit movie “The Avengers,” which helped stoke interest in the character. According to a poll by the Fandango movie website, 72 percent of ticket buyers said fond memories of Thor in “Avengers” influenced their choice to see “Thor: The Dark World.” The “Thor” sequel cost $170 million, Disney said.
“It’s a great start,” said Dave Hollis, executive vice president of distribution for Walt Disney Studios, adding that Disney would have considered “anything north of $80 million to be a good result.”
Hollis also noted that the film was playing especially well with family audiences.
“Marvel has transitioned,” he said. “This is an everybody picture.” Business ticked up as the weekend went on, and he said Disney was anticipating an especially strong performance on Sunday and Monday, given the Veterans Day U.S. holiday on Monday, when many schools and businesses will be closed.
Second-place film “Bad Grandpa” stars comedian Johnny Knoxville in disguise as an 86-year-old man who travels cross-country with his 8-year-old grandson, pulling pranks on unsuspecting people they encounter on the way.
Animated movie “Free Birds” tells the tale of a pair of turkeys that try to keep their kind off Thanksgiving dinner plates, while “Last Vegas” follows four lifelong friends who reunite for a bachelor party. It stars Oscar winners Robert De Niro, Michael Douglas, Morgan Freeman and Kevin Kline.
Last week’s winner, sci-fi thriller “Ender’s Game,” dropped to fifth place, taking in $10.3 million after a steep drop-off of 62 percent in box office receipts.
Two films in limited release expanded to more than 1,000 theaters each. Drama “12 Years a Slave,” starring British actor Chiwetel Ejiofor, brought in $6.6 million, while “About Time,” a romantic comedy starring Rachel McAdams and Domhnall Gleeson, collected $5.2 million.
“Bad Grandpa” was released by Paramount Pictures, a unit of Viacom Inc. CBS Films, a unit of CBS Corp, distributed “Last Vegas.” “Free Birds” was distributed by privately held Relativity Media. Lions Gate Entertainment Corp released “Ender’s Game.” Fox Searchlight, a unit of 21st Century Fox, released “12 Years a Slave.” “About Time” was distributed by Universal Pictures, a unit of Comcast Corp.
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November 10, 2013 at 4:04 PM
gravity at 231m and even over its 6th weekend just dropped 34%. Even Captain Phillips isn’t bad at all. Will end up around 100m.
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November 11, 2013 at 2:25 AM
Krrish 3 becomes the fastest film to breach 200 cr(who)res
. @iHrithik ‘s @Krrish3 becomes the fastest film to cross the Rs 200 cr mark…
bollywoodhungama.com/box-office/spe…
🙂
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November 11, 2013 at 3:17 AM
Krrish 3 Second Weekend Business
Monday 11th November 2013 10.30 IST
Boxofficeindia.Com Trade Network
Krrish 3 collected 31 crore nett in its wecond weekend to take its business to 153 crore nett. It is the second highest collection ever for the second weekend after 3 Idiots which collected around 33 crore nett.
The weekend breakdown was as follows
Friday – 7.50 crore
Saturday – 10.50 crore
Sunday – 13 crore
The film will be the highest grossing film ever in Rajasthan, Bihar and Orissa, a couple of other circuits may join the list but it still remains to be seen if the film can get to 200 crore nett. The third will probably determine whether it gets there or not.
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November 11, 2013 at 6:53 AM
Taran has it at 206:
http://www.bollywoodhungama.com/box-office/top5-hindi-movies/id/1013
53 crore differential! And most of it isn’t the dubbed versions. New records have definitely been broken here!
By Taran’s numbers the film will end up in CE territory (225 or more). By BOI/BoC/NBOC it will be around 185.
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November 11, 2013 at 3:46 AM
Rakesh Roshon should add Deepika or Kathrina in Krissh 4.
Priyanka is decent but she is not box office force as above two.CE gain 30 + crore because of Deepika which may be the difference between this two movie.
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November 11, 2013 at 3:24 PM
@ sum’o’n–your name is really cute
It’s also fun to see you spell rosh’o’n!
Suspect u are a Bengali girl since they have a penchant for ‘o’ing everything-am I not right ?
Ps: actually Bengali is a v pleasant language to hear (though I don’t understand a word of it)
Except one phrase….(any guesses folks) 🙂
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November 11, 2013 at 10:43 AM
http://www.indicine.com/movies/bollywood/controversial-box-office-collections-of-krrish-3-our-take/
Interesting report. Here they claim producer is over quoting and BOI is low and the real number is actually 170 crores for 10 days.
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November 11, 2013 at 10:58 AM
close to 32 crores for the second weekend here:
http://www.boxofficeindia.co.in/krrish-3-second-weekend-all-india-nboc/
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November 11, 2013 at 10:58 AM
160 crore total at BoC:
http://businessofcinema.com/boxoffice/box-office-will-krrish-3-cross-rs-200-crore-mark/118545
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November 11, 2013 at 11:04 AM
on the BOI points they’re making I remember most of them. In fact many of us have talked about this stuff over the years.
The bottom-line is that there is simply no way to precisely account for all the numbers in India which is where all this stuff comes in. There is simply no data collection source that has everything the way it’s done in the West where every single ticket sale is accounted for in every sense. Now while this was always the case there are two reasons why the problem has become more acute in the contemporary age. First off because of online and cable TV consumers you have a market for obsessively focusing on the figures. More importantly because trending patters on 99% of even successful films are rather mediocre (to put it kindly) this is a way of changing the subject and making it about absolute numbers.
related comment here:
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November 11, 2013 at 11:14 AM
By the way even in this piece note where they end up:
“Any source, any figure you take.. Krrish 3 is still one the biggest blockbusters of the year. It’s a hugely profitable film for all its investors.”
This is a completely dubious claim. it’s clear that the film has certain been liked enough by people to get to a certain total (whoever you believe) but to go from here and suggest that this means it’s been hugely accepted and is hugely profitable or what not is clearly false. The film in its second weekend still fell somewhat short of the 3I mark, this 4 years after that film. Much as these 200 crore grossers are either made-up ones or barely scratch that overall 3I number. So a film gets to 200 off 80, another gets to the same off 150, in each case you say it’s the same kind of blockbuster and that it’s hugely profitable and what not. In other words production costs and distribution prices must be completely static and for all kinds of subjects for this to be the case (i.e. for films to be equally profitable or whatever as long as they all clear some absolute number)! Leaving this aside there are also never proper numbers forthcoming for production costs et al. Producers often exaggerate these to build up hype before release and later on move away from the very same once the film releases. It’s simply not possible to assess how profitable Krissh or any other film is without knowing these numbers. But even without this information the idea that this is a big blockbuster is absurd. The same was true for CE, the same for ETT and so forth. CE and Krrish clearly trended better than ETT. Even to get to ETT’s level you need some sort of audience acceptance in the initial phase. All of this is obvious. But the Bombay definition of a hit these days is ‘any film that gets an initial, doesn’t totally collapse and then gets to a big enough number’. Around this basic formula all kinds of games are played. Whether it’s about the hyping of numbers or fabricating them, whether it’s about a narrative that is even more false than this, whether it’s about using centers selectively, so on and so forth.
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November 11, 2013 at 11:32 AM
One is saying 160/170 crore; one has already orgasmed to 200+ – a difference of 30 to 40 crores???
And the world thought Indians were good at Math; but I forget, we are damn good at corruption too..Ask Kalmadi the price of a toilet paper roll and he can tell you to what extent it can be jacked up..
So this difference is hardly ‘shocking’ –
Saala Nana Patekar sahi bola tha: SAU MEIN SE ASSI BE-IMAAN PHIR BHI MERA DESH MAHAAN??
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November 11, 2013 at 11:39 AM
The range runs from BOI’s 153 to Taran’s 206! Now in the former case the dubbed totals haven’t been included but they usually weren’t in the past. Then started being specified separately. Now even that has stopped happening.
The problem once again is that there’s a market for this stuff. It creates a big news story online or on cable or wherever. And then there are fans so desperate to get to these totals that they don’t really care how these numbers have been brought about.
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November 11, 2013 at 11:29 AM
will also add here that leaving aside a concern with the factual in these matters, which of course the guys doing the spin or the fans/partisans don’t have, the irony here is that even coming at it from the other side the theory of the case is self-deconstructed. Whenever I bring up these questions or comments (and I have for years) I invariably have partisans of one star or the other popping up and saying I’m doing it to pull someone down or that I’m frustrated or whatever. Because most people in these cases have apparently had their mental maturity arrested at the kindergarten stage this kind of sentiment has many takers. The idea that whether one likes a star or not, a film or not, one might still be interested in the ‘actual’ box office picture is conceptually rocket science to many of these folks. But the point is it’s not about whether I or anyone else on a blog like this asks these questions. From Taran to BOI the narratives are deconstructed by these very same folks. Because first off all they change numbers, play loose with them in ways that ought to be obvious to anyone. But even if there is always a group of fans willing to buy into them (for instance the SRK fan might have had a problem with exaggerating ETT’s numbers but not Ce! The Hrithik fan similarly with respect to both and so on) for a given film there is also this larger narrative. A dozen times every year the likes of Taran get up and exhaust their vocabulary hyping these films. Two weeks later everything’s back to normal and on to the next one. This keeps happening. All kinds of figures are submitted to this same hysterical commentary. every film is historic, every film is Sholay, if you take a bathroom break a record is broken. What this does is eventually make the commentary meaningless. As a fan of one star or the other how happy can you possibly be when in a month or so the very same things will be said about another film?! In fact they’ll say more. So if YJHD is historic it’s presumably beating everything else, then if CE is doing the same it’s better than YJHD, then it’s Krissh’s turn and so on. So even for the greatest partisan there is no ‘permanent’ achievement here. And I do think we’ve reached a new low with Krrish as the numbers are so much one excess of what anyone else has calculated that this too will start happening more often going forward. The Tarans of the world meanwhile get what they’re paid for (!), they hype up things, these stories are spread in the media, you see the 100 crore or 200 crore headlines, they can say they’ve done their job! But again this happens every month!
Now of course a complete failure cannot be sold like this except that Ra One was. SRK made fun of its flopping at the Filmfares, otherwise Taran and others never conceded this. It’s just the way things are. I think looking at everything and based on experience in these matters one can judge how a film has done and what range the numbers most likely occupy. But that’s about it. Otherwise it’s just a circus routine overtime a big film releases. One just has to put up with it.
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November 11, 2013 at 3:00 PM
Isn’t this blog for reviews? Has anybody put up a review of K3 from a fellow boarder here? Or it’s the ‘Truth or Business or Cinema’ now?!
Back to essentials please?
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November 11, 2013 at 3:24 PM
Here’s another one..man these guys are gonna kill us one day with the unintentional laughs they are providing..
http://www.bollywoodhungama.com/more/videos/view/id/2198383
Oberoi says he is being compared to Ledger and Nicholson..and that if people don’t like K3 — which apparently is just 1% — then they don’t like anything in life…
Damn ‘snobs’ them, frustus, why can’t they just go along with the ‘flow’, so what if it is gutter water!!
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November 11, 2013 at 3:38 PM
Someone (offside) rightly wondered why nobody posted a review on krrish 3 yet. Well, they are busy in spins/games
Just looked around for a review. Haven’t read this one yet, but am sure filmigirl will have something sensible & unbiased to say…
WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 6, 2013
Krrish 3: Love, Peace, and Hrithik
I apologize for this review coming so late! I had two functions to attend last weekend and just barely managed to fit in a screening of the film itself. I’m going to try and keep this as spoiler-free as possible, respecting Rakesh Roshan’s wishes, but really I would suggest just seeing the film if it seems at all like something you would enjoy.
If you are the kind of person bothered by the fact that there is no Krrish 2, then Krrish 3 is definitely not the film for you. Much like Rakesh Roshan’s numbering of the series, his narrative is more concerned with what feels right, as opposed to what would make logical sense. Fortunately, that’s exactly the way I like it. What Rakesh Roshan (and co-writers Honey Irani and Robin Bhatt) have given us is a wonderful mix of science-fiction, family drama, action, and good old-fashioned masala dil. Krrish may look slicker and more musclely than heroes of days past but his heart is firmly anchored in the time when we cheered for Vijay, not Don.
Krrish 3 opens with a recap of the first two films. Rohit Mehra (Hrithik Roshan), a young man with a good heart and an intellectual disability, is given the Flowers for Algernon treatment by a mysterious alien named Jadoo. The second film has Rohit’s orphan son Krishna (also Hrithik Roshan) being kept in a state of edenic innocence, which is shattered when flighty city girl Priya (Priyanka Chopra) stumbles into his world. Krishna follows her to Singapore where he uncovers real evil, embraces a secret identiy as superhero “Krrish,” and finds out that he’s not an orphan after all.
Now, in the third installment, Krishna and Priya have moved to Mumbai with papa Rohit but trouble finds them in the form of one Mr. Kaal (Vivek Oberoi), head of Kaal Pharmaceuticals. You see, Kaal is running this scam where he has his troupe of elite manimals (yes, I said “manimals”) release a deadly virus into some area and then sits back and waits for the world to come begging for an antidote. Guess what happens when he sends his most elite manimal Kaya (Kangana Ranaut) to that very same Mumbai with a vial of deadly virus? Guess who she runs in to?
The themes of family and social responsibility raised by Rakesh, as well as his use of the full masala palate (including a comedy track with Rajpal Yadav), make Krrish 3 feel more like Shankar’s recent work in Tamil films like Anniyan and Endhiran than with contemporary Hollywood superhero films like The Dark Knight. Unlike the typical Western superhero these days, Krrish isn’t acting out the desires of the lazy male teenager with a superiority-inferiority complex but grappling with issues of what it means to live in the modern world, of how to fit into society.
Hrithik Roshan is a very deliberate actor and very physical actor. Watching him over the years, you can see how he fully inhabits the body of his characters. So, it was fascinating to see the indifference with which he played his scenes with his on-screen wife Priya and this indifference fully set the tone of the character of Krishna for me. Krishna is a man ripped from an idyllic life in the countryside and thrust into an urban, upper-middleclass lifestyle that has no meaning to him. Priya is happy as a clam, with her career as a TV news person and endless stream of designer frocks but Krishna takes no pleasure in it and, worse, he can’t seem to find the knack of holding a “normal” job–security guard, waiter.
Krishna finds joy in helping people as masked hero “Krrish.” He’s not a vigilante, acting outside the law to bring violent revenge on those who would dare harm another’s property. No, Krrish is a friendly antidote to accident and mishap. Let the law handle the law-breakers; Krrish is going to use his powers to save people who would otherwise die. And he makes sure to tell the audience that they shouldn’t imitate his stunts but should imitate his modus operandi–we can all be Krrish, if we reach out a helping hand. The contrast of Krishna, the boxed up husband riding in the private car, to Krrish interacting with people on the street cannot be an accident.
Moving on to the two ladies of Krrish 3, Priya and Kaya, heroine and vamp, respectively. I was dreading Priya’s role going in, if for no other reason than she was played by Priyanka Chopra, but the two things that have bothered me the most about Priyanka’s screen presence where neutralized quite well here by Rakesh (proving yet again that he knows exactly what I like in a film). The first is her propensity to wear way too much make-up and way too few clothes for characters that are supposed to be ordinary women. This was successfully poked fun at within the first ten minutes of the film, which combined with Priya’s fancy TV hosting job, was just a nice acknowledgement that Priyanka’s glam act is an act, and one put on by wealthy women. The second is that she seems incapable of acting like a mature grown woman, putting on a grating “cute and girlish” act that has only grown worse as she’s gotten older. What’s tolerable at an adorably dim 22 is far less so in a woman over 30 and there is a scene late in the film that has–for plot reasons–Priyanka acting as Kaya acting as Priya. The sarcastic edge this gives Priyanka’s usual flighty heroine act was really effective. I’m not sure if Priyanka intended it this way but I thought it worked very well in the film.
As for Kaya, her character was the closest I’ve seen to the vamp with a heart of gold in a long time. Besides the fact that Kangana Ranaut is just electric on screen, I thought Kaya was a fascinating character. She is a manimal, created by Kaal to be obedient to him, even as he treats her like shit and orders her around like a robot. When she meets Krishna, she’s touched by his kindness–literally touched. Physical contact done with love and tenderness is something she’s never experienced and neither is praise. When Kaya, who is unconsciously becoming more sympathetic to Krishna, pulls a Krrish and helps a small child, she’s stunned by the applause and gratitude of the crowd. She asks, “What did I do?”
Perhaps I’m biased because the non-human who finds a soul and learns to love is one of my favorite science-fiction tropes but I loved Kaya. And I appreciated that she got to make her own decisions in the end and use her life in the way she thought was best. I also have to say that the bizarre picturization for “Dil Tu Hi Bataa,” filmed in Jordan and featuring Kangana decked out in some elaborate headdresses, makes a lot more sense when it’s clear that the song is from Kaya’s point of view. The desert can be seen to represent her previously empty heart and the odd styling… well, who am I to judge what a manimal would find fashionable?
The last two major characters are Rohit, the father, and Kaal, the villain–two different faces of wisdom. One has morals and the other is concerned with profit. You can guess how that confrontation goes; making money is not an end in itself in Rakesh Roshan’s world. His message is simple: Love, Peace, and Hrithik.
In the end, Krrish doesn’t want adulation or garlands or even to “find himself.” Krrish–and Krishna–just want to do what’s right, to help their fellow human beings because they can. It’s a beautifully uncynical message and the type of small ‘r’ romance I wish we saw more of these days.
http://filmigirl.blogspot.co.uk/2013/11/krrish-3-love-peace-and-hrithik.html
Thanx FG–will read this shortly to see what U made of this film…
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November 11, 2013 at 4:07 PM
in the same year we had man of steel and a certain nolan angle so in comparison it pales if one is grown on hollywood movie but in indian context its a step forward(will easily be the best indian superhero movie) though i didn’t liked the movie but kids are liking it
thing is such genre provides employment (to technocrats)along with masala(to lesser skill technician)
imagin hrithik roshan in somthing like man of steel…pity he is wrong industry…lesser acting talent but he improved only but a big spirit
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November 11, 2013 at 4:08 PM
“he is in wrong industry”
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November 11, 2013 at 4:12 PM
lol ya but also taran adarsh’s father to made a movie called gupt gyaan
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B._K._Adarsh
lol look at movie collection
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November 11, 2013 at 4:43 PM
btw unreleased version of ranbir’s shakti
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November 11, 2013 at 4:43 PM
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0765819/plotsummary?ref_=tt_stry_pl
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November 11, 2013 at 6:36 PM
Can’t resist celebrating the breach of the 200 crores barrier …
This ones for oldgold, amy, anu, sanju, maggie, ….
“Non-stop party
Aaj ki party
Celebrations tere naam” 🙂
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