Thugs of Hindostan, the rest of the box office

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  1. Here we go, updated expectations from TOH one day before release in all versions …

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    Day 1: 50-55 cr nett
    4 Day Opening Weekend: 175-180 cr nett
    8 Day Opening Week: 230-235 cr nett
    Expected Total: 375-380 cr nett
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    • 3 Big BO Records that TOH is chasing …

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      1. Biggest opener

      With 5000 screens in its kitty, including 21 IMAX screens, we are expecting the film to collect between Rs 45 to Rs 50 crore on its first day, which will make it the biggest opener of all-time, even surpassing Shah Rukh Khan’s Happy New Year (Rs 44.97 crore).

      2. Highest weekend grosser

      The film is enjoying an extended weekend of four days and honestly, it will be a disappointment if TOH collects anything less than Rs 150 crore in this time. Currently, Salman Khan’s Sultan enjoys the record of being the highest first weekend grosser with a whopping business of Rs 180.36 crore (5 day weekend). Thugs of Hindostan has the potential to reach this milestone if it receives positive reviews from cine-goers.

      3. Highest Bollywood grosser of all time

      In the past, we have seen Aamir Khan breaking his own records and setting new benchmarks at the box office. The highest Bollywood grosser is Aamir Khan’s last release Dangal, which had collected Rs 387.39 crore during its theatrical run (We have not considered Baahubali 2 in the list since it was a dubbed Hindi film and not a Bollywood venture). Since Aamir Khan’s films are known for running for long in cinema halls, similar results can be expected from TOH. The film will also enjoy three week’s free run as no biggies are hitting the screens until 2.0, which is arriving on November 29. We wouldn’t be surprised if it enters the Rs 400 crore club at the box office.

      https://www.bollywoodlife.com/news-gossip/thugs-of-hindostan-3-records-that-the-aamir-khan-and-amitabh-bachchan-starrer-can-break-to-become-the-biggest-diwali-blockbuster/

      https://www.bollywoodlife.com/news-gossip/thugs-of-hindostan-3-records-that-the-aamir-khan-and-amitabh-bachchan-starrer-can-break-to-become-the-biggest-diwali-blockbuster/

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      • Current status:

        1. 45+ cr day one record is kind of a given at this point.
        2. 180+ cr 4 day weekend is a possibility depending on WOM.
        3. 390+ cr cume is really doubtful given Acharya and Adi Chopra’s previous contributions.

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  2. Sarkar is off to a flyer in TN.

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    The early estimation coming from trade say that Sarkar has earned Rs 2.37 crore, which is the highest ever for a movie in Chennai. It means the movie has beaten the record of Rajinikanth’s Kaala, which minted little over Rs. 1.75 crore.

    Sarkar has beaten Vijay’s previous record of Rs 1.48 crore in Chennai. Ajith’s Vivegam and Vijay’s Theri are in the next two positions by earning Rs. 1.21 crore and Rs 1.01 crore, repectively.

    The AR Murugadoss-directorial has been released in over 650 screens in Tamil Nadu. It has got a great opening across the state with an average 85 percent occupancy in theatres.

    However, Sarkar has garnered mixed reviews. The success of the movie at the box office depends on how it performs in the days to come.

    https://www.ibtimes.co.in/sarkar-first-day-box-office-collection-vijay-starrer-shatters-kaala-baahubali-2-records-784929

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    • Inconsistent report. Headline says 400 cr needed for recovery and last paragraph says it needs 280-300 cr for recovery.

      120 cr out of 220 cr budget has been recovered from digital and satellite rights itself as per this same report.

      Anyone with basic knowledge of elementary arithmetic can deduce it needs roughly 200 cr nett to have the entire distribution food chain in green. Even Zero needs a similar amount to get there.

      Bottomline – 200 cr nett needed for TOH and Zero to be declared as commission earners.

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  3. The Biggest Diwali BLOCKBUSTERS Of All Time
    Wednesday 07 November 2018 11.30 IST
    Box Office India Trade Network

    Thugs Of Hindostan will release this week and is the most expensive film of all time from the Hindi film industry so naturally big numbers are expected. The huge cost is not an issue as far as recovery goes as the film has actually proved to be the first real HIT in China as far as big money coming back to the makers is concerned but more on that on another day.

    The real test is as always theatrical and its been a long time since that killer blockbuster has come on Diwali. The last one is probably Kuch Kuch Hota Hai way back in 1998. But Diwali has seen some really big blockbusters in past led by the Muqaddar Ka Sikandar with Amitabh Bachchan in the title role which is bigger than Bahubali – The Conclusion comparing with the Hindi version only and among the biggest films of all time. Next is the biggest Shahrukh Khan blockbuster Dilwale Dulhania Le Jayenge which is also a near 500 crore nett film with adjusted rates.

    The last fifty years has seen Diwali dominated by two actors, Amitabh Bachchan and Shahrukh Khan and the former is a factor in Thugs Of Hindostan as well. The big question is where will Thugs Of Hindostan get in the list. A top TEN finish is a MUST while a top FIVE finish will be a GREAT result. A top THREE finish will be the JACKPOT. The list will be updated post the result of Thugs Of Hindostan unless of course it does not do well.

    The biggest blockbusters released on Diwali since 1970 are as follows. There could be some big blockbusters before 1970 but that is something to be checked for next Diwali. The list consists of 23 films which have proved to be SUPER HIT or better with a Diwali release. The films before 1994 have not been tabulated to the exact figure so an apprx figure is given.

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  4. 1. Muqaddar Ka Sikandar (1978) – 550 crore apprx

    2. Dilwale Dulhania Le Jayenge (1995) – 461 crore

    3. Mard (1985) – 425 crore apprx

    4. Raja Hindustani (1996) – 394 crore

    5. Kuch Kuch Hota Hai (1998) – 343 crore

    6. Seeta Aur Geeta (1972) – 325 crore apprx

    7. Dil Toh Paagal Hai (1997) – 284 crore

    8. Parvarish (1977) – 275 crore apprx

    9. Hum Saath Saath Hain (1999) – 274 crore

    10. Mohabbatein (2000) – 257 crore

    11. Tezaab (1988) – 250 crore apprx

    12. Dostana (1980) – 225 crore apprx

    13. Prem Ratan Dhan Payo (2015) – 219 crore

    14. Krrish 3 (2013) – 210 crore

    15 Golmaal Again (2017) – 206 crore

    16. Sargam (1979) – 200 crore apprx

    17. Happy New Year (2014) – 190 crore

    18. Om Shanti Om – 173 crore

    19. Golmaal 3 (2010) – 170 crore

    20. Ghatak (1996) – 153 crore apprx

    21. Baazigar (1993) – 150 crore apprx

    22. Veer Zaara (2004) – 129 crore

    23. Insaaf Ka Tarazu (1980) – 105 crore apprx

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    • I agree with this BOI article for a change. Raja Hindustaani’s collections in today’s money will be around 400 cr nett for sure. And KKHH was really the last Diwali blockbuster that we had, but it was not a bigger hit than say this year’s Sanju (340 cr).

      TOH indeed has to be liked a lot to break into the top Diwali blockbusters bracket:

      1. Muqaddar Ka Sikandar (1978) – 550 crore apprx
      2. Dilwale Dulhania Le Jayenge (1995) – 461 crore
      3. Mard (1985) – 425 crore apprx
      4. Raja Hindustani (1996) – 394 crore

      The likes of Dil Toh Paagal Hai, Hum Saath Saath Hain, Mohabbatein, Om Shanti Om, Baazigar or Veer Zaara were hardly that big hits.

      Whereas Prem Ratan Dhan Payo, Dostana or Happy New Year were more of PR ‘hits’ than BO hits.

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    • this is a totally crazy list..

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  5. Q. Thugs Of Hindustan will also be releasing in Tamil & Telugu and Aamir Khan is a big pull especially in Chennai and Hyderabad so can that version of the film pull in 4 or 5 crore nett day one.

    A. When Dhoom 3 is only Hindi film has to go over 1 crore nett on day one then what chance is there for 4-5 crore nett. There is no market there for Hindi films even if dubbed. Padmaavat till date has done best but its only 13 crore nett apprx lifetime. The likes of Bajirao Mastani, Happy New Year and Prem Ratan Dhan Payo fell apart. A Hum Aapke Hain Kaun in 1994 has higher business than these lot in its Telugu version. Infact Hum Aapke Hain Kaun and Maine Pyaar Kiya are the only films which we can call SUPER HIT and HIT respectively in dubbed versions and both were Telugu only. Another point Aamir Khan pull is better in Bangalore than Chennai or Hyderabad.

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  6. https://indianexpress.com/article/entertainment/bollywood/aamir-khan-fatima-sana-shaikh-sanya-malhotra-doing-well-5436775/

    When someone asked if it was a proud father speaking, the actor laughed to say, “I wish they treated me like a father. These girls have the utmost disrespect for me. You all should see how they behave around me.”

    Stating that Thugs of Hindostan is perfect for the festive season, the actor further said, “TOH is not a historical film. There were reports that it was based on a book but it’s not. It’s an entirely fictitious story set in that period. It’s an action adventure, not a serious historical film. It isn’t also patriotic. It is a very universal and child-friendly film. Though there are action scenes, there is no blood and those (action) scenes are quite fun. It’s more like the films we used to watch in the 70s.”

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  7. Some info:

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    • And this was TZH advance as per the same source:

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      • This seems right to.me..the advance as of now is behind tzh and sanju but the day is not over..50 cr is going to happen as things stand once you factor the wider release, diwali factor and higher ticket rates..

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        • One more thing to note..it is not having as many screening as tzh in delhi NCR due to length of the movie..

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          • If there were some good songs and a better trailor the advance would have been easily better…but diwali is one day when you dont need advance…g4 did close to 35 cr with practically a non existent advance

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          • With so many shows available in every plex I dont get the reson why everyone wud be so bothered to book advance tickets in the first place. Availability of tickets in a non-issue in this plex era.

            GA did great all over without opening advance booking.

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    • Some more info on advance booking …

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  8. Any reviews out?
    I am actually getting bored with different people predicting almost same thing. Opening day record is going to be broken.

    Now reviews need to be consistently 4/5 level.
    That bar for similar genre is lower for other star but Aamir has set high standards and will be evaluated with a different expectation. This is normal and often satyam has contested why? 🙂

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    • For this movie 3/5 ratings is whats expected in average.

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      • 3/5 with Aamir coming after 2 years of agyaatwaas will be underwhelming for non-aamir fans which comprises 95% of his viewers. His loooong absenteeism and superb script sense generates an expectation which 3/5 may not meet.

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        • This 95% of audience is more than happy with TZH or Sanju. ToH wont be any worse.

          One outlier star cannot change overall expectations from a dumb audience. Try to be reasonable for a change?

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  11. Is this the first time that two male superstars doing all the promos and they are being called the jodi!

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  12. IdeaUnique Says:

    how good is the film is going to be the question by tom eod? will it have a repeat-value? i think the heavily guarded film can raise the excitement so much that ppl may just rush for 2nd viewing if it is good….

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  13. The screen count has increased from 10 to 14 in some of the plexes.

    8:35am
    9:10am
    10:00am
    11:40am
    12:15pm
    1:15pm
    2:45pm
    3:20pm
    4:30pm
    6:25pm
    7:45pm
    9:30pm
    11:00pm
    11:55pm

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    • In Ahmedabad also most are having first show at 8 am.

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    • Screens are not increasing, they are increasing the number of shows in many plexes now that advance booking has picked up.

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      • You are right. Screens may also get increased. Who will watch a film at 8 in the morning and 11.55 in the night even if they increase shows?

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      • Ahmedabad was having 8 am shows since first day of advance booking. I know as I checked for booking tickets on first or 2nd day.

        Dont know about other places.

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  15. aamirsaurabh Says:

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    • At least one guy bought a 8 am show ticket. So no press screening tonight.

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      • Marcus France is watching #ThugsOfHindostan..reviews will be up shortly

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      • At least one guy bought an 8 AM ticket. 

        Congrats to the guy’s patience. True blue fan. I have skipped final exams because am not a morning person and thence am a content with the title of thakela person who has no drive to achieve anything in life!

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        • He is a srk fan who writes bad reviews for aamir films. I can bet his mag wants his review to hit the net at the earliest tomorrow, and hence the pressure to watch it early. 8 am shows will be full of reviewers of all sorts.

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      • IdeaUnique Says:

        that is the highest guarded secrecy for any aamir-films off-late – usually he shows it to press 3 days in advance….maybe they want the suspense to reach crescendo

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  18. ‘Simmba’: Rohit Shetty shares an emotional message for Ranveer Singh on the film’s shoot wrap

    He shared a picture of himself with Ranveer with a caption which read as “6th June 2018, Exactly 5 Months ago today, the journey of Simmba began and as this adventourous journey ends for our Simmba a.k.a. Sangram Bhalerao, I am filled with mixed emotions. Simmba being our first film together, was full of fun, laughters and unending memories. It’s truly been wonderful knowing him as a person and as an actor who is honest hardworking and so passionate about his craft.

    I can vouch today that no-one else could have been a better Simmba than Ranveer Singh making Simmba (as my team says) My best film so far.

    When we started the film he was a young talented star for me But today as he performs his last shot for the film I know I’ve earned a Kid brother for life who is now set to embark upon a new beautiful journey with someone equally as charming and wonderful as him. I am proud to showoff today that my Simmba is marrying my Meenamma!!! I Wish them all the luck for a blissfully beautiful future together.”

    ‘Simmba’ which is scheduled to release on December 28 also stars Sonu Sood, Ashutosh Rana and Siddhartha Jadhav in pivotal roles. The stars of ‘Golmaal Again’ will also be seen making a cameo in the film.

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  19. BOOM.

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  20. 50Cr nett worth of collections people cannot lie. Things will be crystal clear tomorrow irrespective of a review from Raja Sen or not. At this stage it seems this movie will envoke a polarised set of opinions IMO. A Dhoom 3 like response will give Twitter what it needs and I’m sure the film will suffer hugely. Minimally it needs a Fanaa like response but that film at least had music going for it. A Ghajini type response might be wishful thinking but I think the movie needs this now, such has been the negativity in recent days.

    Mangal Pandey/D3 response – 200-250 Cr
    Fanaa response – 350-400 Cr
    Ghajini response – 450-500 Cr+

    I will hope for only 2 scenarios;
    Flop – Aamir takes that pill (walk of shame) and avoids Victor/YRF for life
    Blockbuster – Victor will be famous for getting the legends together and delivering a film much better than D3.

    In between leaves everyone in limbo and the chance this can all happen again which I sincerely hope not!

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    • A film with d3 response will do close to 300 cr today which should ensure the movie is a safe proposition considering the cost involved.

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      • All this ‘safe’ commercially etc is trade talk. Economically the film is already pretty safe. It’s theatrical business needs to reach a certain level of respectability that matches the cost of production. A 200Cr film doing 300Cr business is not smart for Aamir. The guy does a film every 1-2 years and has to deliver either a commercial blockbuster or something like Talaash (which is safe commercially but has at least a niche fanbase, hence shell life).

        And 300 Cr here is enough for Twitter to blast Aamir and co – it will IMO need to do 400Cr to justify the billing of Big B Aamir Katrina YRF etc.

        Let me confirm my comments. If the film is universally considered a dud, it should do ‘rubbish’ business so that Aamir and co learn. Obviously if the film finds its audience and is liked, I wish good things.

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        • There are many films I don’t like that do well at box office and vice versa. My opinion is overrode in these cases by the major opinion. I love Talaash or Mangal Pandey but can make sense of why they didn’t do well. Likewise I didn’t like D3 or Raja Hindustani but have the bandwidth to understand why they did well. Hopefully here I like the film and it’s liked. Goes without saying this would be true for any film.

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        • Rubbish business? Maybe in an ideal dream world. There will be enough takers for a D3 like shitty film. Remember D3’s theatrical run?

          However, there will not be one raja sen but an army of them making fun of the film. But as long as it brings decent money, Aamir will indulge in this every 4-5 years.

          This will make 300 cr, even if its at D3 level. (And lets not confuse that D3 was as bad as Race 3 or Dilwale).

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          • I mean a dud is a dud. What’s the point in celebrating D3 collections! Movie is not good at all, sure it’s probably better than Race 3 but it’s a pretty poor film and hardly a comparison that should be celebrated either!

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          • D3 was not a dud.

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  21. P.K Talli Says:

    Talking about twitter , there has been a lot of negativity on TOH after the promos .. most of them just waiting for Aamir to fail and they might get their wish this time .

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  22. You people are forgetting it is larger than life spectacle in IMAX than a mere movie. The fights, the dances and the works.
    There is no lesson to be learnt for aamir. It is an experiment worth going for.

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    • He will not fail, I agree with that. However, dont think TOH is worth 2 years of his life at this stage of his career (things were different in nineties in every way).

      I wudnt mind him taking 5 years off to make 3 MB films with Ambani’s 1000 cr or whatever. That is some risk worth taking. But surely not doing a film like TOH with guyz like acharya and chopra and spend 2 damn years on it!

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      • Ideally Aamir should have produced this sort of thing.. and made all these decisions himself.. we’d see a better script, better production decisions (Aamir is not the guy trying to spend the most money! He’s the guy trying to get the best deal for the subject he has), a better soundtrack as well, probably a different director. Clearly he’s not been asleep as things stand but it’s still not as the same as being the producer. And this is where Bombay often lacks imagination. You don’t have to worry about the Mahabharata. You can do all that right here in TOH! Every good masala director in the 70s knew this.

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    • I am trying to catch it in an imax..

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      • Where are you located? India has a stupendous number of IMAX screens thanks to the technical advances of our great masala film-making tradition. Only 17 IMAX screens in the whole country!

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        • LOL

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        • Ahmedabad. But it doesn’t have one. I am travelling and hence I shall catch it when I am in one of the really big cities.

          Also I read reviews that Indian IMax are not real iMax but LIEmax

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          • Tomorrow reviews will be out. If the film has good story and content, you need not wait for IMAX experience. Any regular plex will do.

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          • Ahmedabad doesn’t have an IMAX!! Chalo add one more to the list where Modi failed…

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          • @sanjana yes. But I am watching in IMax because. I have never seen a movie in IMax. So thought this to be a good opportunity.

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          • Only authentic IMAX in India is Prasad’s in Hyderabad. There are couple of authentic ones in Delhi but they don’t usually show commercial movies. Having said that most IMAX screens elsewhere are not authentic ones either. They’re just larger than usual screens.

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          • Prasad’s is awesome — still un-matched, all these years later. Ah, it has been years since I saw a movie there…

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  23. It is rare for an aamir film to get good advance in single screens which is happening due to many factors.

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  24. Not to forget regular overseas market apart from china.

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  25. I’ve been following all the comments on TOH. Not really concerned about its box office prospects in any sense. Unless the reviews are mostly poor. In terms of whether it does 50 on day 1 or 60 or whatever, all of this doesn’t interest me very much. because this won’t be the difference between the film being an ultimate grosser or not. Now it’s true that the soundtrack has been mediocre, the trailers have been fine but not crazy good or something.. on the other hand all of this doesn’t affect the opening of the film in any sense inasmuch as there’s literally no one who will not show up for the film on these grounds. Yes reviews and WOM will impact things but that’s true for any films. This is something so obvious it scarcely needs to be repeated. D3 is still the best comparison here. A film which also didn’t have a great soundtrack but again no one was going to miss this one. The film wasn’t loved by too many people, not liked especially by too many people either. Everyone however showed up which is why the film kept breaking records for 10 days. After this it slowed down considerably. It was still the biggest grosser at the time. Today however TOH cannot cross Dangal with that sort of trajectory let alone BB2. But it could still do 350 or so with a D3-like response. I will say that nothing so far has really surprised me about TOH. This is what I (along with some others here) have been saying from day 1. It’s not really about Acharya either. Yashraj could have given this film to any director. Secondly when you have Bachchan and Aamir together and that too in a period setting you have the responsibility to really come up with the best script possible. If you however settle for a ‘by the numbers’ deal (the biggest film that pushes all the right buttons but is just passable at the end of the day) then it’s entirely your fault. Given Yashraj’s track record I always felt this was a real possibility unless proven otherwise. Similarly I am not at all surprised by the music. Nonetheless the film does seem to have more genuine masala angles than I would have expected, also it seems to be invested in some real Desai-like political coding. Ultimately it will be about the script but I think there’s a better than average chance that this film is better than the previews (which wasn’t true for D3, though it had the best script in the Doom series it was also seriously imbalanced in other ways). It’s certainly not cheating on the Bachchan-Aamir matchup. Finally with Aamir’s involvement it would have to be quite a blunder of historic proportions to get the film so wrong that it’s just a total loser (not talking about ‘safety’ here). Just don’t think that’s likely. At least Aamir has never made such a mistake since Lagaan. MP was a different sort of deal and even then the failure was exaggerated at the time, Talaash was niche deal, only Aamir could have gotten it to 90 or so. D3, despite the eventual disappointment in trending nonetheless became the biggest grosser. TOH has more things in place, more inherent strengths than all of those films, including even D3 (where it might be argued that Aamir was never necessarily the best fit for that plastic terrain). To make a good enough film that’s not fantastic (my expectation) is one thing, to mess it up completely would be quite another. Certainly I’d be amazed to see this happen. The only question now is: assuming it’s ‘good enough’ and not ‘fantastic’ (being conservative here) how much does this mean in terms of the gross? I think it could still be a very serious gross or even the biggest gross as long as the script does the job well enough. Put differently almost all of the other super grossers are to my mind either ok films or more often than not worse than this. With the exception of the Aamir efforts of course. It’s not as if Salman gets his 300 with ‘good’ films! TOH should have the biggest week 1 or even the days unless they’ve completely messed it up. But yeah as always it is about WOM (and the reviews should be an early indicator of this). This is so even for the films that are considered blockbusters. Dabanng for example. Why didn’t this film repeat Ghajini’s trending? The numbers don’t lie. All else being equal (comparable initials etc) the numbers always tell you how much a film was ultimately liked or not relative to another. All of this is a long way of saying, hey there’s no reason to be anxious about TOH at the moment. Unless one expected something better than what one has seen so far in the advertising. To repeat I’ve not been surprised but I do think they’ve gone a bit further in some masala directions (at least the ones I consider worthwhile) than I would have thought earlier.

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    • Very fair comments.

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    • IdeaUnique Says:

      actually, if you see the promotions, it is Aamir Khan everywhere….so basically he is carrying the whole thing on his shoulder…..Big B, YRF, Kat’s goodluck-charm all are bonuses….it is an Aamir Khan movie arriving after 2 years – that is the biggest USP i can sense…his movies are consistent trenders….

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      • I don’t agree, the real USP here is Bachchan-Aamir together for the first time. Of course as the younger star it will be Aamir’s film ultimately but I suspect Bachchan’s role is symbolically potent here and will mean more than the footage. The trailers seem to suggest as much. Also remember that Aamir is on his [Bachchan’s] turf which wasn’t true for Mohabbatein/K3G. But again success here still benefits Aamir the most. What more can Bachchan really do at his age?! The same holds for any kind of underperformance.

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        • put differently from SRK to Aamir you can do the biggest films but for the truly ultimate film you need to include Bachchan. Salman had the same idea for Race 3. Glad Bachchan pulled out of this one! on TOH it’s great that they’ve also done a period setting to create that ultimate film.

          the only other extraordinary deal would be Aamir-Salman together but it’s hard to imagine a film that could work for both of them. SRK-Aamir would also be big and here it’s easier to think of a script for both of them. Meanwhile SRK-Salman could certainly do a Karan Arjun kind of deal with Rohit Shetty!

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      • The whole movie has been pegged as both together. Remember the scroll invitation? It ignores the females completely and invites people to witness first time pairing of these 2. The trailer/promotion starts with Big B (I will assume mostly out of respect), the trailer ends with Big B’s dialogue. First song release was Vashmalle (both). The Diwali message is both. The film only works if Big B has a significant contribution in terms of narrative. I don’t understand any insecurity in admitting this. It would be a stupid movie if they didn’t do this. Everything suggests Big B has a substantial role and probably way more than KK & FSS. Obviously Aamir Khan will be the lead. This is precisely why narratively D2 and D3 are failures as the battle between good and evil is in favour of the villain footage and importance wise.

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  26. HYDERABAD seems to be always stronger when it comes to advance bookings. Any particular reason for that?

    I remember in 2011 I watched Saheb Biwi aur Ghulam in Hyderabad and the tickets were very, very affordable. I remember there wasn’t any looting like the multiplexes in Bangalore and Bombay have like jacking up rates dis-proportionately for different show-timings or any such stupid ceilings. Is that still the reason?

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  27. Mumbai and Mysore.

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  28. Now that it’s Diwali, let me light up some fire-crackers.

    The Amitabh-Aamir fight

    When Aamir was asked about Black in 2007, during TZP’s release, he talked about BLACK rather negatively, without even bothering to see the original and understanding that BLACK was actually a pretty faithful copy of the Patty Duke/Anne Bancroft movie when it comes to the rigor/harshness with which the child is treated by its tutor. With Bhansali at the helm, of course the drama would be heightened [what with the plot of Alzheimer’s afflicting AB’s character and the student taking care of the teacher angle]. It was OK if Aamir felt the movie was manipulative or was harsher — and the weird thing is he had already spoken to Amitabh about the fact that he didn’t like BLACK — on the kid’s character, etc. but then he continued into the wilderness talking of how he couldn’t make out whether the folks in Black were living in a church or some orphanage or a library!! Now Bhansai always sets his movies in Bhansalipur! Aamir should have known this!!

    In his entire career, if there’s one film that AB has reacted emotionally to when people spoke it, it’s BLACK. He always has a standard answer for his films that if the audience doesn’t like, I will move on and try to better myself, but I won’t bad-mouth them in public. But it was with BLACK that his responses got emotional. His fans might get emotional with DEEWAR or TRISHUL or his other movies but for him, it was BLACK. It was the actor in him speaking out.

    Even before this, and in a weirder way, somewhere when AB was in semi-retirement [around 1993 or 94] and was content, Aamir came up with some, with all due respect, dumb statements when he was asked who his favorite actor was. He talked of Kamal, Amitabh, Raghubir Yadav, and Naseer. He continued Amitabh, and I am paraphrasing; that he loved AB till his AAA phase and then didn’t. That’s fine. He said he would have liked him even more if AB took some social responsibility and played some better characters so that his fans wouldn’t come out on the streets and act like ruffians and break laws!! This was one of the dumbest statements that Aamir has made in his career, displaying a complete lack of understanding AB’s career trajectory and the times he lived/acted in; though I can understand and am completely with Aamir as being in a phase where he was still evolving and understanding cinema. Curiously, there was no reaction from Amitabh; ill-will or otherwise. [This was in CINE BLITZ or MOVIE magazine, I am unable to reproduce the link, but it’s etched in my mind.]

    Maybe that’s the awkwardness that some folks feel when AB and Aamir interact and specifically Aamir fan-boyism toward Amitabh. But it’s true that Aamir is a big fan of AB. It’s hard not to be — as an actor or as an audience. As a human being, to each his own.

    Happy Diwali all!!

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    • Instead of a filmstar, aamir could have been a critic like Raja Sen and Shubra Gupta!
      People are quite snarky whether they are actors or not. This snarkiness hurts others in more ways than one.
      I always sensed this awkwardness between them.
      Now it looks like he is making up for all that. But people dont forget the past so easily.

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    • Aha! The duel begins tomorrow …

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    • I find lots of similarities between Manoj Kumar’s Shor and Black, and irony in ending..

      I think Aamir comment could be correlated with TZP release which was espousing treating issue differently. Black was more in fiction world and character studies; TZP was dealing real life issue of dyslexia.

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  29. P.K Talli Says:

    Victor , a director who has always brought the best out of me as an actor .

    I don’t even know whether to laugh or feel sad !

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  30. No early reviews for TOH??

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  31. pls post link swati

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    • There are couple of them now on youtube. Just do a search on “audience reactions” or “first day, first show” for ToH and look at the time when it was posted. || Review & Rating || Thugs Of Hindustan Movie Public Response

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    • These could be paid reviews. Who knows. Just be patient ..it will be out in next 24 hours….

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  32. All that is fake.It has not released anywhere in India.

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  33. TOH is Amir’s show all yhe way..Film could have been better in case Zaifira’s character had been given more weightage because foundation of the story lies there.. Still as a film it is better than Dhoom3.. Bachchan has done his part well but his fans won’t be satsfied due to less screen space.. Film turns boring at times but still has much for front benchers.. Overall mass audience may like it and from Monday onwards may find acceptance only in single screens.

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    • Though there are lot of flaws in the film but major flaws that i found were two three twists in second half which seem to be influenced by Race franchise. Katrina is there for two songs and three to four minutes role in parts. Fatima has acted poorly.

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    • P.K Talli Says:

      Film hasn’t been released anywhere yet so where did you see it ?

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  34. P.K Talli Says:

    Never seen Aamir fans so nervous before the release , pretty much the whole fanbase is awake .. off course most of them are booked for the 8 am show but they just can’t sleep .

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    • Fans need to brace themselves for mixed reviews, audience reception/ratings and BO results. Losing sleep over it wont help. Hopefully Aamir will choose his next wisely.

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  35. Sarkar beats Baahubali 2 on day one at the box office
    Vijay’s latest film Sarkar, which was released in over 3000 screens on Deepavali, is dominating the Tamil box office.

    https://indianexpress.com/article/entertainment/tamil/sarkar-beats-baahubali-2-box-office-5437190/

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    • Its such a pity for bollywood.

      BB2 set records in hindi dubbed version last year which is way beyond the biggest of bollywood names. AIW set multiplexes in fire this year like no bollywood film can even dream about. Now Sarkar has collected more in day one than Sanju and TZH …

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  39. Bob Cristo Says:

    Never seen Aamir’s fan so nervous in a decade (After Gahjni). Lets be honest. ToH was never a challanger of bahubali. It may still beat Dangal in Box office dangal (I am not so pessimist yet) but in my mind ToH was never a challanger to Bahubali. On Gadar days there was no social media but after that it was the Bahubali-2 which became an event film. People were posting there Bahubali-2 ticket in Twitter and Facebook. Family photos from inside multiplex. Bahubali-2 was like a festival. Everyone wanted to enjoy it. Everyone wanted a slice of Bahubali-2. An Aamir and Salman film can go pass 300cr but after that is is uphill task to earn every carore.

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    • LOL … The target is BB1’s 420 cr all india nett, not BB2. There would have been no BB2 records without BB1’s success.

      To really chase BB2 numbers Aamir needs to sign 3I sequel with Hirani or MB with Rajamouli.

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  41. I will rather wait for a raja sen negative review.

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  42. The early reviews are mixed. Some guy on twitter commented about the rough cut he had seen two months ago, as per him the film is boring. Aamir seems to have missed the bus this time. All thanks to the success of Dhoom 3, which despite being a crap was huge success.

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  43. Bob Cristo Says:

    Come on Marcus. Be a sport. Dont change the goal post. The target was always BB2. For me if it does north of 325 cr i will call it success. 325 cr means it would have some sort of acceptibility.

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  44. Sarkar Day One Breakups (All in Gross):

    Chengalpet – Rs 7 Cr
    Coimbatore – Rs 5 Cr
    North-South Arcot – Rs 4.7 cr
    Madurai-Ramanathapuram – Rs 4.5 Cr
    Trichy-Thanjavur – Rs 3.5 Cr
    Salem – Rs 3 Cr
    Chennai city – Rs 2.37 Cr
    Tirunelveli-Kanyakumari – Rs 2 Cr
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    Total TN Collection – Rs 32 Cr approx.

    Sarkar India Day 1 Break-up:

    TN – Rs 32 Cr
    Kerala – Rs 6.52 Cr
    Karnataka – Rs 6.25 Cr
    Ap/Tg – Rs 4 Cr
    ROI – Rs 1 Cr
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    Total India Collection – Rs 50 Cr approx.

    Overseas Day 1 Break-up:

    South East Asia – Rs 11 Cr
    North America – Rs 5.5 Cr
    Middle East – Rs 5 Cr
    Europe – Rs 4.1 Cr
    Sri Lanka – Rs 3.1 Cr
    Australia region – Rs 1.4 Cr
    Others – Rs 1 Cr
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    Total Overseas Collection – Rs 31 Cr approx.

    Worldwide Day 1 Collection:

    India – Rs 50 Cr
    Overseas – Rs 31 Cr
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    Total WW Day 1 Collection – Rs 81 Cr approx.

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  45. Some info on morning show occupancy:

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      • Roughly 50% occupancy rates in morning shows in major centers.

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        • Not bad.

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          • The opening is not upto the mark for diwali day..strangely south is lagging behind..it still will be a big opener but need work to do to reach 50..as of now 40 cr is given..wom is seriously mixed.

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          • South has its own releases.

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          • Toh released in 149 screens there which is a record..sarkar or no sarkar the hindi audience should have still flocked to theatre..opening is barely 25 percent there and aamir is the biggest brand in Chennai

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          • It is only 9 now. Picture abhi baaki hai.

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        • 50% occupancy on morning shows is decent enuf. It will pick up a lot as the day progresses. Wom is mixed as expected.

          The way I see it, it will be embarrassing for Aamir supporters if this does not do 300 cr. I personally will be satisfied with 350 cr. 400 cr will make be happy.

          As for the film, its not my cup of tea (this masala nonsense – designer or not). Will watch it just because Aamir has spent 2 years of his life on this (shit or not).

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          • It was strange that movie was not screened for press at all. In Hollywood that happens only when product is bad..the first show is not out so it’s still wait and watch but the feelers I am getting is not good from interval block..hoping for the best…these kind of movies with huge expectation when they crash they crash faster too..remember besharam?

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          • Why besharam, it can be as embarrassing as all srk films since CE (and thats quite a list!). Adi Chopra does like showing his products to press or even focus groups like Aamir does.

            And wake me up when Bollywood starts functioning like Hollywood!

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          • Besharam was a different level of tank for masala genre…srk movies underperformed but even hny had legs to reach close to 200..if hny was besharam would have folded around 100 after a 40.opening..the other movies of his weren’t as masala as hny..

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          • HNY was over-reported by 20-25% as srk’s standard PR strategy. You really buy those fraud numbers spitted out by Red Chillies? There were enough controversies with those numbers at the time of release. An opening of 37-38 cr day one was PR-ed as a 45 cr record. It got to some 170 cr or so from that start. Even Race 3 got to 130-135 cr starting from a 25 cr day one (unless you are willingly naive to buy the producer totals of fraudsters like srk, salman or great roshans).

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          • I can give you in writing that even if TOH opens at 45 cr today, it will still do 4-5 times of that even if it tanks. There will be enuf takers for what srk-akki fans will suddenly realize is ‘shit’. Thats still 200-225 cr and a commission-earner for you like MP.

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          • You are saying the same thing what I am.saying..besharam.is a different level of tank to hny..getting to 180 from.36 is not a disaster

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          • HNY did not do 180 cr my frd. Thats a srk fan talking. My point was it did much worse than even Race 3. HNY’s total was 4.5X its day one while Race 3 did more than 5X its day one.

            Anyways, I am now ‘debating’ this with the guy who thrashed SS one year back for making 13X of its opening day and it was just an ‘above average’ film …

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          • Doesnt matter the multiplier..besharam did 2.5x its opening day…the red chillies number for hny was 200 plus but boi had it at 180..and race didnt do 130..it did close to 160cr..I debated the race numbers even then..based on footfalls..you were floating some incorrect reporting theories based on prakash jajus tweet..and I dont think any site supported the 130 cr number…anyways its irrelevant now..the movie remains a flop at both numbers…the only point I was making is that some movies tend to crash faster than others due to the hype..nothing else..and besharam was a unique case study in that…anyways good luck to you..am not responding anymore to this line of argument

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  46. Derailed by intervention groups
    The case of Avni is a prime example of a case derailed by online intervention groups. They created unnecessary pressure for forest officials through social media and litigation, so much so that the authorities hesitated and failed to act when they should have. Being trolled on social media not only scared the authorities but also some otherwise vocal conservationists, who silently allowed apathy to take hold when they should have opposed it.

    Even under ideal circumstances, removing a tigress with cubs from her domain is a tall order, more so when an entire tiger cult-like intervention group is monitoring the pulse of the situation. The state authorities nevertheless took the harsh decision to kill Avni. There must be genuine reasons behind this decision, especially considering that forest officials, wildlife non-governmental organisations, biologists and conservationists unanimously let this happen. If we try to understand the issue in its totality, the decision taken was possibly the only option.

    https://scroll.in/article/901301/did-online-intervention-groups-delay-action-against-tigress-avni-allow-her-to-kill-more-people

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  47. If ToH tanks, then serve Aamir right for spending two years on a movie just because it was with Big B, who isn’t really known for his script sense.

    Getting a real bad vibe about ToH

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    • In an ideal world TOH will tank and Aamir will learn his lesson. Unfortunately nothing like that will happen thanks to indian audience and their cherished choices for entertainment. Guyz like Idea and Naveen can surely elaborate more on this?

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  51. Looks like a huge disappointment.
    RIP!

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  52. It is time for aamir to retire.

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  53. From a genuine twitter fan …

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  54. #ThugsOfHindostan – At Interval.

    So painful to write that its so painful to watch d first half of this poor rehash of #Kranti that can easily be called #Tashan of 2018.

    The film now needs a completely opposite & entirely diff. 2nd half to rise above its killing boredom.

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  55. @VictoriaCot
    Just saw #ThugsOfHindostan
    Spoiler alert: it was awesome!!!
    Go see it.
    And look,
    @ShriGRajen
    and I even managed to get
    @aamir_khan
    and
    @SrBachchan

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  56. Bob cristo Says:

    Time for Aamir to retire ??

    Are you kidding ? This guy is destroying every BO record left, right and centre and after just one poor outing you are saying he should retire. Come on. I don’t like Aamir but what he has done in last decade is hard to replicate. Why just can’t accept that everything with this film(promo, songs, Aamir’s acting shown in promo was plain bad to cringeworthy). Many will say it MCP attitude but I thing Aamir had a good time with Fatima during the shoot. In my view it was one of the reason to do this film. So let ToH be a flop. It will be a lesson for Aamir. It was MELA part 2. He should stick in PK and Dangal.

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    #ThugsOfHindostan.. Interval. First half PREDICTABLE BORING & OUTDATED..!!

    Missing home.. !!

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  58. So this is looking like a complete waste of time and Loser Acharya would go down in history to make one of the worst films with the casting coup of the century. Sad.

    And HR will now have the last laugh..

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  59. Film is clearly a dud. A gargantuan miscalculation it seems. Hopefully (if really this poor) it does absolutely pathetic business and Aamir doesn’t touch a YRF again. Anyway I’m in the unfortunate situation of pre booking to watch this in a few hours – I’ll take my pillow just in case!

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    • Looks to be that way..guess all bets are off..I am.not too sure of 40 crs now for today..bad wom spreads very fast

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      • This will fall to Bobby Singh prediction and he’ll be famous for it. When Taran Adarsh rates a big film badly it says something.

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        • Yeah this can crash I feel..day 2 is very important now

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          • Back to your form as during SS, good to see. This wont save your aka’s zero anyways.

            Even with D3 like reception, this will do 300+ cr. Have said this about how trolls will equate D3 with Race 3 and Dilwale throughout the day today. First of my predictions has come true. Now wait for the others too.

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          • Marcus you dont need to respond to me..I dont think I have said anything to offend you..a bad wom movie tends to crash
            .its normal and this one might…based on feedback..if it doesnt good…on SS I have not changed my verdict about its Indian BO..you are wasting your time reading my messages..

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  60. Good that Hrithik didn’t take this project and had sense to drop out last moment . After mohanjadero if he has done thug the career would have dommed for sure . This year we had three flops from 3 major khans , it will make them down to earth . Also,Hindi movie now need new new star to take Hindi movie forward . It sad that still we are only waiting for khan to make record breaking collection even though all them above 50 now . Time to find new actor and star now .

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  61. It is billed as the most expensive Bollywood film to date and only the fifth Indian movie to be remastered in the IMAX format.

    Yet, Thugs of Hindostan, which hits theatres on Thursday, November 8, and is the big Diwali release of 2018, may not have as easy a run at the box office as previous Hindi films did during the period.

    At Rs 2.2 billion in terms of the size of its budget, Thugs of Hindostan, which stars Amitabh Bachchan and Aamir Khan, will have to make Rs 4 billion to break even, say sector experts, since half of the net collections go to the distributor.

    The producer gets the other half. And with a three-week window available before Rajinikanth’s 2.0 hits the box office (on November 29), experts say the producer of Thugs of Hindostan, namely Yash Raj Films, is practically skating on thin ice.

    Typically, Diwali releases have at least a month at their disposal to shatter records. While some experts argue that records today are broken in a matter of weeks and competition for eyeballs is a way of life, that may not be the case with Thugs of Hindostan, given its steep production budget.

    The Ranbir Kapoor-starrer Sanju, for instance, took 16 days to reach Rs 3 billion in box office collections this June and it was made with a budget of Rs 700 million.

    Plus, say experts, Sanju had strong buzz and positive word-of-mouth riding in its favour. In the case of Thugs of Hindostan, it is not clear which way the wind will blow, since the movie’s trailer has received mixed reactions so far.

    “Getting the opening won’t be a problem. Diwali is a big festival and people will flock cinema halls with their families, giving the film enough footfall to reach Rs 500 million on Day 1. But the buzz around the film is somewhat tepid for the distributors’ confidence. If the word of mouth for the film continues to be weak, it could see a sharp dip in footfall on the very next day following release,” says Shaaminder Malik, an independent distributor (North India) and a trade analyst.

    While Yash Raj Films was not immediately available for comment, an executive in the know said the studio had targeted 5,000 screens on the opening day of Thugs of Hindostan, giving it a likely strong opening.

    But the challenge would be to sustain the momentum through the ensuing weeks, which appears difficult. The studio is said to have locked deals worth Rs 600 million each for the digital streaming and satellite TV rights.

    But this may not be enough because it still requires to make at least Rs 2.8 billion to Rs 3 billion at the box office to break even.

    Incidentally, advance bookings for Thugs of Hindostan, which opened on November 3, have been largely for the first day of the film only, experts tracking the market said.

    URVI MALANIA BUSINESS STANDARD

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  62. P.K Talli Says:

    Bye Bye Victor

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      • This seals it. Nothing more to say if the likes of TA start thrashing…no wonder they hid the movie from everyone before release. I suspected it would be bad; but not THIS bad…

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        • P.K Talli Says:

          I knew about this a month ago when i shared with everyone here about the test screening and what my friend briefly told me . I was still hoping he would be wrong .

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  63. P.K Talli Says:

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    #ThugsOfHindostan – 2.5/5.. Hope #AamirKhan gets back to making epic films of substance, like he regularly does. He can be excused of this one strictly average film. Even the biggest slip once in a while.

    Hope they don’t make a sequel to this, as hinted in the end.

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  64. This seems to be a complete fiasco. A rating of 2 from Taran Adarsh !! . I think Dhoom 3 is the culprit here. A crap film succeeded which gave the makers confidence to go for a high budget film with megastars.

    A Salman can get away with a shoddy film because he does two films a year , but Aamir take 2 years to complete a film. So much hard work going down the drain!!

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    • The lesson needs to be a hard one. D3 I readily blamed Victor, here I’m feeling Aamir will get equal blame as with how China has shaped up for him he knew the consequences of a bad film. His involvement has been more here.

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  65. well this seems a genuine review from a genuine news site – seems good here..guess it’s better whoever wants to watch or has booked just watch and stay away from reviews..have tickets so maybe will watch..

    https://www.timesnownews.com/entertainment/news/bollywood-news/article/thugs-of-hindostan-quick-movie-review-amitabh-bachchan-aamir-khan-starrer-is-a-visual-spectacle/310768

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    • There are a few scarce decent 2/5 or 3/5’s (from some blogs) but the overall impression is very negative. The increased ticket prices will burn the film even more.

      I will watch the film with an open eye, I liked the trailer a lot. I can only think of one film like this which I liked but audience panned – Jagga Jasoos.

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  66. Bob cristo Says:

    Marcus.. that’s why wise men day keep your expectations in check. You are the one who was throwing 55-60 cr opening day and 500cr+ lifetime. I am saying ToH as MELA-2 because of Aamir’s acting. I am still saying film will do around 300 cr. Problem with you is that you knew what was coming still you went on an on with your prediction. Look at me I have 250 cr expectation from ZERO even in best case scenario and now after seeing SRK’s over the top hamming in ZERO my expectations are 200cr+ in best case scenario. So my friend it is you who were talking about the capacity of indian BO is 75 cr. So now be ready to get the brickbats. I am again saying ToH will so around 300 cr.

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    • LOL … If ToH underperforms it does not mean per day capacity is any less than 75 cr! Logic of srk fans i guess, what else can you expect from zero supporters? 500 cr was always the upper limit for this film and I have maintained all throughout the build-up that 400 cr will be good for this. Anything less than 300 cr is embarrassing since 2 yrs of Aamir’s time went into this.

      [ Personally I would want this to end in Race 3’s total of 130 cr or so (in real terms not PR figures) so Aamir learns his lesson. Else we will get another such film in 5 years time. ]

      Zero needs 200 cr nett for recovery and barely be a commission earner. So your best expectation is that Zero wont flop, good luck with that!

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      • Problem is that bollywood films and stars are totally incompetent and underperforming in today’s market potential. But its difficult for fans of 100 cr stars like akki and srk to see the light.

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  67. This will be a disaster of epic proportions. Dhoom 3 wasn’t rated that bad. TOH seems to be in Race 3 mode. What a waste !! Aamir conducts special screening . He knew beforehand about the poor product , that’s why no media screening and reviews.

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    • Yeah that no media screening was strange..I dont think this is touching 200 cr..the occupancies in Mumbai Delhi ahmedabad are.all.lesser than sanju and needs a big lift to have a good 4 day…

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  68. P.K Talli Says:

    I still don’t know what Aamir saw in Victor .. Tashan , Dhoom 3 and now TOH , seriously this guy is worthless who shouldn’t be allowed to make films and Aditya chopra is another idiot who doesn’t have any sense whatsoever . Aamir will learn his lesson and come back strong .

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    • Read Scroll review. I think aamir got a well written role and thats all that mattered to him. That is why he is praising victor.

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      • ‘Thugs of Hindostan’ review: Aamir Khan is the saving grace in a trite, uninvolving film

        Only Aamir Khan seems to be paying any attention to the proceedings, and he ensures that the movie springs to life when he is around. Director Acharya, who has also written the screenplay, reserves the best lines for Firangi, and invests the most in his appealing crookedness. Aamir Khan’s eye-rolling is in line with his previous comic turns in Rangeela and Andaz Apna Apna. But Firangi cannot save this Mangal Pandey-on the-sea saga from being scuttled by its ineptitude and palpable disinterest in approaching the freedom struggle with fresh eyes.

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      • P.K Talli Says:

        It is Aamir’s show and he has really acted well , was talking about the film .

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  69. IdeaUnique Says:

    Twitter is going beserk with excellent reviews for TOH – Aamir Khan gets max. praise – one such review….

    PRKians of HINDOSTAN

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    Victor takla can’t direct this. This is Aamir khan behind the camera.

    This is baap of Baahubali .

    Action 5/5
    Big B 5/5

    FATIMA good so far

    Aamir khan = God level

    500cr club = Formality even if post interval is half as good as pre Interval

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  70. P.K Talli Says:

    LOL

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  71. IdeaUnique Says:

    and I dont which Taran’s account review is posted above but the correct one is here:

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    #OneWordReview…
    #ThugsOfHindostan : A-L-L T-I-M-E B-L-O-C-K-B-U-S-T-E-R.
    Rating:- ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️½

    Entertainment at it’s best!

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  72. IdeaUnique Says:

    and all those negative reviews posted above are usual aamir-haters – ha! pl. check….dont be cynical yet…..final word belongs to two Gods of bollywood – AK and AB….the rest is pure bullshit 🙂

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  73. P.K Talli Says:

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    Gonna need some drugs to get over the Thugs

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  74. Thugs Of Hindostan Takes Bumper Opening
    Thursday 08 November 2018 12.30 IST
    Box Office India Trade Network

    Thugs Of Hindostan took a bumper opening as expected of around 65-70% which is the top opening of the year beating Baaghi 3 which had the best morning occupancy till date this year. Its the biggest day of the year for box office collections so this was always on the cards. The trailer recieved mixed response but at the ground level there was always going to huge interest to watch this film.

    The film is the most expensive film in the history of Hindi cinema costing around 260 crore without the remuneration of Aamir Khan but despite this huge cost its not much of an issue as its the first real winner in China as far as money back to the makers is concerned. The film does not even look for China but Aamir Khan seems to bigger there than it actually looks. The film has got a $20 million (145 crore) minimum guarantee from China and then there is Overflow to share if it gets any. Films like Dangal, Secret Superstar, Bajrangi Bhaijaan and Hindi Medium have done huge there especially the first two but this sort of money has not come back home. On top there is the 150 crore from satellite and digital which takes it to 300 crore with just these three revenue sources.

    These insane recoveries are all good and well but that real fight is theatrical as this is where the audience comes to play and the expectations are huge for the film. The start is huge but its about the holds especially post the weekend in the case where the film goes theatrically.

    The expectations will be of 300 crore nett plus and if its liked universally then it will cruise past that mark. The bare minimum necessity on a worst case is the Diwali record which is held by Golmaal Again at around 205 crore nett last year. The last real big one on Diwali was Kuch Kuch Hota Hai in 1998 which went past 300 crore entt (adjusted rates) and since then nothing has gone to 300 crore nett plus.

    There is not much to say about the initial as its huge all over. Its a bit slower in Gujarat and parts of South but eventually the audience come. The collections in UP and Bihar are insane especially for an Aamir Khan starrer which tend to be bit weaker in these areas. The real tests for the film begin after day one and remains to be see what are the levels. Gujarat has a prolonged holiday period over Diwali but the higher services taxes are killing that market as there has been another increase this week and this has been the case since GST came into force. The total taxes in the state are now nearly double of what it used to be at the time of Entertainment Tax.

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  75. Impressively mounted but caught between solemnity and fluffiness, Thugs of Hindostan might entertain large swathes of the audience, but it is ultimately too tacky and unconvincing to lay legitimate claims to being India’s answer to Pirates of the Caribbean.

    https://www.ndtv.com/entertainment/thugs-of-hindostan-movie-review-bloated-and-tacky-despite-amitabh-bachchan-plus-aamir-khan-2-5-stars-1944309

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  76. From the 2 or 3 reviews it looks like Aamir did not fail as an actor.

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  77. P.K Talli Says:

    Social media is ruthless , two of friends who just finished watching the film said its quiet watchable . Jay if you’re watching this soon let us know about your thoughts on the film .

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    • I’m in theatre in 4 hours, if I’m awake and alert I’ll give my thoughts. This is the first time ever I’m watching a film FDFS. Hahahaha, just my luck I’ve chosen something that will be famous for Twitter bashing by the time the opening credits role.

      And I’m waiting for livewire and Naveen for their juicy tomatoes!

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      • IdeaUnique Says:

        yeah Jay, i will take ur review as final – u r alway neutral…..i’ve ticket for tom show but now thinking to go solo as well for today afternoon somewhere 😉

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  78. Aamir and Bachchan fans just need to laugh this off. Maybe pray for TOH 2.
    Get your helmets out. Dress up in comical 19th century British attire. And prepare for war with a Robot, Birdman & dwarf. And avoid the pavements.

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  79. P.K Talli Says:

    need to wake up Satyam first how could be sleep so peacefully amidst all this mess lol .

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  80. The only one having a blast is Aamir Khan, in his curly mop coloured a carrot shade, a glint-in-the-eye Awadhi thug. And while he’s around, it’s bearable. Just about.

    The rest of it is a non-stop combo of eye-roll-and-eye-glaze.

    https://indianexpress.com/article/entertainment/movie-review/thugs-of-hindostan-movie-review-rating-aamir-amitabh-katrina-5437650/
    One star!

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  81. Maybe critics are too angry that YRF did not give them special screenings before the film’s release! They are taking revenge!

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  82. Bachchan’s Khudabaksh is a cinematic figure and as a warrior on horseback, he revisits his iconic avatars in Khuda Gawah and Ajooba. Even while he doesn’t speak for the first hour of the film, his character packs a silent intimidation. Much credit goes to the makeup and costume team for completing his leathery face with scars that wordlessly convey that every wound has a story. But the true lead here, who occupies almost every second frame, is Khan’s Firangi who for some reason resembles a leprechaun with a nose ring. His caricaturish ways can be pinned on the fact that his over-the-top character demanded deliberate exaggeration. But this excessive performance can be overbearing at times and it doesn’t help that the dialogue offers little novelty. Shaikh is the worst cast here. While her Zafira is marginalised for a large part of the film, she barely holds her ground in the critical monologue when she gets undivided focus. But the one who should stand up for being objectified is Katrina Kaif whose Suraiyya is almost a prop in the film — her three scenes cling to the item numbers she features in.
    Given how long India was colonised, a fantasy tale of retribution would be suitably gratifying as it touches a distinct patriotic sentiment. But since this one drags along as if this freedom struggle was playing out in real time, the inevitable triumph barely hits the spot.

    https://mumbaimirror.indiatimes.com/entertainment/movie-review/thugs-of-hindostan-movie-review-amitabh-bachchan-and-aamir-khans-fantasy-tale-of-retribution-suffers-due-to-mediocre-execution/articleshow/66543328.cms 2.5 stars.

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    • Always felt Fatima was a huge miscast here. She deserved a big film but not something like this. She’s been short changed completely, hardly been promoted.

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  83. IdeaUnique Says:

    actually we have been discussing it so much that it is easier to be cynical….but paying public seems to be liking it =

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  84. I am waiting for rajasen’s negative review and rediff review.

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  85. The reviews are universally poor. Poor than D3 and marginally better than Race 3. Was expecting poor reviews given the director but was thinking may be it could turn out good if Aamir ghost directed this. That doesn’t seems to be the case here. Audience reviews although not glowing but seems to be better than critics. They do not seem to mind some stupid mindless fun movie and seems to be partially entertaining at least. So this could still do big numbers although not record breaking numbers like Dangal or BB2

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  86. These public reviews notwithstanding, the film is not going to work. Dhoom 3 had way better reviews than this one.

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  87. tonymontana Says:

    Thugs of Hindostan review:

    the extraordinarily mounted canvas with very well choreographed action scenes take the cake in this film which is, quite honestly, a mess of a storyline which relies on Race 3-like double crosses and lame twists. It is still engaging thanks to Aamir’s fabulous act.

    Fatima Sheikh disappoints as the female lead. Can’t believe someone who acted so well in dangal proving to be a damp squib here.

    Katrina is strictly eye candy while Amitabh is shockingly reduced to a caricature. Its criminal considering an actor of his stature being given such less screen time and lended a one dimensional character compared to Aamir who is a one man show.

    Aazad is just an idea here, and it’s embarrassing to see the angry old man whimpering and struggling while the morally bankrupt Firangi Mallah gets the scene stealing lines

    Aamir’s script sense might work well for the single screens but it is overall a disappointing effort. A good attempt at masala but he has conpromised big time on the story in favour of his one man show.
    Mixed feelings on this one. Its engaging no doubt but ultimately an exhausting effort.

    I’d call it a one time watch. Stay away from VKA Aamir

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    • This is the most promising review so far. I can watch it in one hour with some hope! Thanks for sharing.

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    • P.K Talli Says:

      And they made us all believe in the promos that Bachchan has a very substantial role in this . I don’t even understand what’s the point of bringing Aamir and Bachchan together if they both don’t have an equally important part to play ..

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    • Thanks for sharing. Latest I can see is Friday late night.

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    • “Aazad is just an idea here, and it’s embarrassing to see the angry old man whimpering and struggling while the morally bankrupt Firangi Mallah gets the scene stealing lines.”

      Ha! Looks like we may not get long member reviews about ToH in this blog! Anyways, this was expected imo …

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  88. wow, quite surprised with the responses so far! Mostly because didn’t expect Aamir to go so wrong. If this really reflects the general reaction the film will have a very poor total. What a waste of an opportunity this would have been. Anyway I’m already booked for Sat! So I hope the reviews get better!

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    • Its tracking slightly less than sanju till now in multiplexes..obviously this will be better than sanju in SS and B multiplexes…think we are looking at around 40 to 45 cr range here..which is very good in any case

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      • at this point the day 1 number matters less. Given some of these initial responses the trending becomes very questionable. The Taran review especially is a big danger sign for the same commercial reasons. Unless the reactions so far are completely unrepresentative (unlikely) this film might be a huge disappointment in every sense. and more importantly a box office embarrassment.

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      • Posted some time back here that I didn’t expect Amitabh to get a big deal beyond what may or may not be a good intro scene.

        It’s a YRF and remember Aamir’s worst films in recent times came under this banner. If It tanks, Asmir is the biggest loser here, since he has devoted 2 years of his life to this and he has nothing else lined up.

        Was going for it tomorrow evening but looking at the reviews I feel there is a Mohenjodaro or even worse, a Race 3 kind of deal here. Will go for something else instead.

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  89. BOI is saying opening is bumper with 65-70%. Bollyarena reported 65% occupancy in morning shows. Addatoday reported 65% occupancy in morning shows and 85-90% in noon shows!

    Looks like the wishes of a first day washout, quick-spread of disastrous wom, Besharam like tank and below 200 cr total are all going out of the window!

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    • that’s not going to happen, it will post some very big numbers one way or the other, I’m just interested in the trending and what happens after a few days. D3 never got these kinds of responses, also kept breaking records for 10 days.

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      • We dont know the ground level response yet. Reviewers were forced to watch 8 am shows (pay for the highly priced tickets too!) for Yrf’s no press screenings cost cutting measure. They sound grumpy. Taran definitely did not get his check. So I wont take these reviews too seriously.

        Nor do i take desperate wishes of srk fans and trolls seriously (here or in twitter).

        Tony says its watchable. Which basically translates to a major portion of the audience digging this given the genre and terrain. I can bet this film is not worse than D3. Lets see what Jay says about this.

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  90. Bluffmaster Says:

    The biggest day of the year and 10%+ ticket prices, still happy with 45cr?
    Heres an idea, maybe next time instead of being a blind fan, look at the whole product, the director, trailer, songs etc before making predictions of 55-60cr+ and 2000cr worldwide, that was the aim according to some. Now obviously you will change and be happy if it even manages 250.
    The amount of hipocrisy by some fans amazes me, afterall Aamir is just having fun. Now imagine if some other actor would take 2y break for this, how the reactions would be. Really feeling sorry for the regular people who will be spending thousands on this garbage.

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  91. Thugs Of Hindostan Is 8th Bumper Opening For Aamir Khan
    Thursday 08 November 2018 15.30 IST
    Box Office India Trade Network

    Thugs Of Hindostan took an earth shattering opening today across the country and is the eighth bumper opening in the career of Aamir Khan. There is a different definition of bumper between a Dil (1990) and Thugs Of Hindustan (2018) as the days of 95-100% occupancy are long gone unless restricted release. But today even restricted release fails to get occupancy on day one.

    Thugs of Hindustan is the 45th release of Aamir Khan and eight of these films have taken a bumper opening. Rang De Basanti had a healthy number which as a number can be called bumper but the capaity potential had really grown in the six months prior to the release of this film which led to occupancy which was not bumper for Rang De Basanti

    Amitabh Bachchan also has a bumper opening to his name after a long time with Kabhi Khushi Kabhie Gham being the last one in 2001. In total there could be 30 bumper openings for Amitabh Bachchan as in the eighties and early nineties it was bumper for nearly every film be it that film eventually turned out to be a HIT or FLOP.

    The eight films of Aamir Khan to take a bumper opening are as follows.

    1. Dil (1990)

    2. Ishq (1997)

    3. Mela (2000)

    4. Fanaa (2006)

    5. Ghajini (2008) – Holiday

    6. 3 idiots (2009) – Holiday

    7. Dhoom 3 (2013)

    8. Thugs Of Hindustan (2018) – Holiday

    There are a few holiday releases with 3 idiots, Ghajini and Thugs Of Hindostan but both Ghajini and Thugs Of Hindostan would probably be bumper even if non holiday.

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    • Kind words from Boi for aamir khan!

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      • This is bargain basement compliments from BOI. Strictly factual, if BOI was like this with all stars – no issues. But if for SRK or Salman they would display how amazing such records were. I don’t believe Krish that BOI are being kind here. To think it takes the biggest production ever plus Big B plus Diwali for BOI to be ‘kind’.

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  92. New promo.

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    • What to expect for those planning to watch it …

      ************

      “It is thus left to Khan and the technical departments to save this film, and they do. Thugs of Hindostan’s production designers (there are four) and DoP Manush Nandan ensure that the film is never short of pretty and grand. John Stewart Eduri serves up a throbbing background score and Ajay-Atul’s songs are all hummable.

      Given the only well-written character in Thugs of Hindostan, with an abundance of mischievous dialogues and credible motivations, Khan throws himself into his role with gusto, summoning up Munna of Rangeela and Siddhu of Ghulam, imbuing Firangi with a relentless zest, and switching from good to bad to inexplicable to exasperating to lovable within a twinkling of those delightful kohl-lined eyes.

      Thugs was promoted as the first film ever to pit him against the great Bachchan. The legendary superstar is a pale shadow here of the best he has been. Khan, on the other hand, crackles, pops and sparkles as a swashbuckling scoundrel. The writing of his character and his performance are the only reasons why Thugs of Hindostan does not turn out to be a stylishly produced but disastrously dreary repeat of Acharya’s first film, Tashan. Despite all its minuses, Thugs is light-hearted fun.”

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      • I wont be surprised if this was exactly the response Aamir got from the few focus screenings they had during editing phase. And since the main flaws are lack of plot/story and weak screenplay (apart from Firangi’s characterization), there was not much to do to rectify during edits. If the foundation is weak, there is only so much you can do.

        No surprise that Aamir went around during promotions
        saying that only reason he did this was because he liked the character. Reading between the lines, the final product had made him realize that he had erred on script selection. He will take what he gets here.

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        • I agree to this..aamirs interview did give that vibe..he was honest enough to say there is no usp to the movie too

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      • What I feel is that Bachchan lost interest in this film and did his act mechanically. The physical effort of wearing heavy armour at his age and an action drama. Nowadays he excels when it is a social drama. He was cast because he is grand looking like those grand sets. It is a spectacle and visual drama and aamir spoiled it by acting! They should have gone for Hrithik.

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  93. CHENNAI: Tamil Nadu law minister CV Shanmugam on Thursday compared superstar Vijay’s film ‘Sarkar’ to a “terrorist” activity. Condemning the film, Mr Shanmugam said, “Through this movie, an attempt has been made to instigate violence in society. It is not less than a terrorist instigating people for violence.”
    The minister threatened to “take action against the actor and the team” and alleged that the film “attempts to pull down a democratically elected government.”

    Yesterday, another state minister, Kadambur C Raju also threatened action if the objectionable scenes were not removed. He said he will consult the Chief Minister, Edapaddi Palaniswami about taking action.

    The Tamil Nadu health department has already sent a legal notice to AR Murugadoss, the producer of the film and Vijay for promoting smoking in the film. The posters, released as the first look, showed the actor smoking a cigar.

    https://www.ndtv.com/tamil-nadu-news/tamil-nabu-law-minister-cv-shanmugam-says-the-film-sarkar-is-like-a-terrorist-instigating-violence-1944451?pfrom=home-topstories

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    • So films should not show violence? How lame! People are making this a blockbuster and the writing is on the wall.

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      • IdeaUnique Says:

        ha ha they come up with this every time – last time, Vijay’s film had shown doctors in poor light and they created lot of drama – which, in the end, did lot of PR for the film! and it went on to become a monster BO hit 🙂

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  94. Aamir should have been smarter. The film was doomed right when they decided that the title would be ‘Thugs of Hindostan’. The promos sealed the fate.

    Can’t believe Aamir spent two years making this and that this is what followed Dangal. He enjoys a rare sort of goodwill and a misstep like ToH can potentially hurt it.

    I guess time to wait till 2021 for Aamir’s redeemable next.

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  95. IdeaUnique Says:

    all my friends who have watched this today said that it is an entertaining film and enjoyable….no one has disliked it so far…yaar – it is vacation time and ppl want easy-family-entertainment which TOH provides…no one is expecting a masterpiece here….

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    • The Golmaal Again crowd will lap this up and a chunk of it watched films in multiplexes not just in single screens.

      Last year GA and SS together scored 270 cr nett business. ToH will do 300.

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      • 300 looks extremely unlikely right now. The best case scenario is 250, tops.

        This looks like a HNY kind of a deal.

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        • Ground reaction is not as bad as that intolerable HNY. And day one will be higher than HNY’s 37-38 cr opening. 300 cr is v much on from here with regular trending of bollywood commercial hits.

          Wait and watch the tamasha.

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        • This will be GA kind of deal. GA got to 205 cr from 30 cr opening. Similarly this will get to 305-310 cr from 45 cr opening with similar multiplier.

          You guyz give too much attention to troll noise and tend to over-estimate indian audience by a margin.

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          • GA has a better imdb rating compared to ToH — early days yet, but it’s hovering at around 4.3!

            All the reviewers have butchered the film so far. It’s not going anywhere after the extended weekend.

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          • You think imdb user crowd propelled GA collections? 🙂

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          • No, but it does give an idea of what the word of mouth is.

            I’d be happy if the film does more. I’m actually quite intrigued now that the film has received such negative press. The same happened to Bombay Velvet… and for all its flaws, it certainly did not deserve the hysterical response that it happened to receive.

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          • Agree that the hysteria seems propaganda oriented. Lets see, wom of a film varies a lot depending on the demographic you are considering in my experience …

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          • Sure IMDB has bad reviews. But just check the review history of some of these reviewers. I randomly selected 5 who had given a 1/10.
            3 of them have not done any other reviews, and are on this site for a year only. TOH is their first and only review!
            1 has rated Race3 as great!!
            And only 1 guy who has also rated HNY at 1/10, and Haider at 9. So basically, only 1 out of 5 guys who reviewed it as 1/10 can be taken seriously.

            IMHO, just like there is a troll army on every newspaper blog (ie, paid by comment readers who are paid by political parties), I seriously think there is a bunch of such reviewers on IMDB as well now, paid by rival stars trying to bring a movie down.

            Anyhow, I will be checking it out tomorrow. Lets see how it goes.

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          • In fact, the more 1/10 reviewers I check, the more I see only 1 film reviewers!! WTF??
            A few seem genuine, but they are the “fine wine” yuppy types, who for sure would not enjoy masala, ie, guys into Fury, Haider, and all the Oscar worthy stuff.

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          • From the standards set by Baahubali 2, to now aiming the standards by GA or HNY. How the mighty have fallen!

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          • Mighty has fallen for sure, but a lot of assholes are feeling vindicated that their pathetic choice is perhaps not that bad …

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  96. Remember I was the first one to predict the outcome of the movie on this blog. I am correct…looks like, so far, reading the reviews and such!

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  97. oh so now Bachchan is being bashed. LOL. Somebody even said flaring nostrils Hrithik would have been better!! Watching it tonight anyhow if I get the tickets…which I suspect with this kind of negativity, I will,,,

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  98. The top fifteen advances (in terms of collections) of all time are as follows:

    1. Bahubali – The Conclusion – 37,53,00,000
    2. Avengers – Infinity War – 28,14,00,000
    3. Thugs Of Hindostan – 27,50,00,000 apprx
    4. Tiger Zinda Hai – 24,76,00,000
    5. Sultan – 21,53,00,000
    6. Sanju – 20,35,00,000
    7. Race 3 – 19,16,00,000
    8. Dangal – 18,84,00,000
    9. Prem Ratan Dhan Payo – 15,73,00,000
    10. Dhoom 3 – 15,18,00,000
    11. Happy New Year – 13,62,00,000
    12. Gold – 13,03,00,000
    13. Kick – 12,89,00,000
    14. Bajrangi Bhaijaan – 12,65,00,000
    15. Tubelight – 12,41,00,000

    BOI

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  99. This sucs, We (12 people) had planned to go see it this Saturday, now I’m not sure I want to go.

    Let’s see what paying public says.

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  100. This looks like an honest review:

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  101. Sarkar was steady in chennai on second day:

    *******

    In Chennai on the first day, the film collected Rs 2.37 crore in the city and is the first film to cross Rs 2 crore opening day collection in the city. Vijay is also the actor who opened the Rs 1 crore and Rs 1.5 crore club in the city with Theri in 2016 and Mersal in 2017, respectively. The film’s collection was equally impressive on the second day with Rs 2.32 crores collected at the ticket window.

    https://www.hindustantimes.com/regional-movies/sarkar-box-office-collection-day-2-vijay-starrer-collects-rs-100-crores-beats-baahubali-and-rajinikanth/story-XH5QE4aNrGZ5C6intNGY8L.html

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  104. At intermission and unless this is disastrous post interval, I’ve enjoyed this overall. A few negatives would be poor camera work, too many close ups. Some scenes with a wider angle. Dialogues in general are a weakness. Victor seems to like certain things as a director that, way things are shot that I don’t. The intermission twist is unwelcome IMO but let’s see how this unfolds.

    This is entertaining so far, quite funny. But reading things, the second half gets worse but let’s see. The first half was worth it. The film has nothing to say it’s just guilty pleasure cinema. It’s better than Dhoom 3 till now.

    I think critics till this point have been pretty harsh.

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    • IdeaUnique Says:

      there u go….all my friends have the same thing to say….enjoyable cinema

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    • Unfortunately the second half is an absolute write-off. I’m flabbergasted how messed up it is. The first half tone is replaced with some unfortunate comical twists. I’m quite speechless as this was a fairly easy film to resolve without stupidity.

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      • So whats the verdict, overall its better or worse than D3?

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        • Overall the first half is better than D3 but second half is Mela level. Overall this will do good to get to 200Cr IMO. It’s quite enjoyable in first half as the tone set by Big B (quite serious) and Aamir (humour), backstory together give you enough moments.

          The second half – I have no clue what everyone is smoking. I could spoil it but I’ll let everyone who wants to watch it, watch it but I’m sure the moments before Manzoor E Khuda will drive everyone up the wall. Even the picturisation of the song is Mela like and thereafter you simply lose the film entirely as it’s become non serious and quite cheesy.

          Overall at least D3 got narratively stronger, here it’s very bad script and if Aamir’s signed up to this I’m afraid he’s losing it.

          Performance wise Aamir is good, more when is playing & funny – it’s true all the best dialogues are for him (think Tony mentioned that in his review). Big B is wasted here. WHAT AN OPPORTUNITY MISSED. THIS IS A BIG OWN GOAL. If they had screenings for this last month I’m sure they could have edited this better. VKA has improved but I’m not watching a film of his ever again. He gets basics wrong and if Aamir had a hand in this, his fans need to go after him as he’s lost it here. His last ‘cheesy’ films Mela/Ishq have returned to haunt him here.

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          • if a film has to have a bad half it’s better for it to be the first one. If it’s the second it’s even worse because the audience leaves the theater with that impression. On the rest though yes it’s true, I didn’t expect that they wouldn’t even get to Dhoom level in the worst case scenario. Even if it were ‘just enjoyable’ it would already be a letdown but to do this with this opportunity is pretty incredible. I’m actually quite surprised Aamir okayed this. As for Aditya Chopra the less said the better.

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          • the problem as always is the writing. You can’t make films with nothing scripts. I still consider Ghajini the only genuine masala effort out of Bombay in many years and not surprisingly this was a Southern director remaking his film (the Memento angle is less important here because just that wouldn’t have made for a blockbuster).

            This film will be harder for Aamir to write-off because since Lagaan, successful or not, letdown or not, there has never been a reason to really doubt his judgment. No one really had a problem with MP or Talaash though they might not have loved these films or ‘enjoyed’ them. It could be that he got swayed by the basic setup here and so on but still amazed he didn’t do more with the script. I was skeptical from day 1 about the quality of the film but I must say I never expected this even in the worst case scenario. It’s simply unbelievable. I’d go further and say that this is a wasted opportunity in the historic sense.

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          • after that Mela reference I’m seriously looking into whether I can do something about my booking. It’s one thing for a sensible., meaningful film to go wrong, quite another for this sort of thing.

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          • I would advise anyone not interested, don’t watch it. If you are interested, don’t watch it in IMAX or 4DX as you’ll feel robbed, 2.0 deserves your money instead. I hardly remember Mela but I recall the title song & here Aamir is prancing around giving the same vibes (for a few minutes). Instead of his brother, he has Katrina Kaif and Fatima SS.

            Ps. The English spoke Hindi better than Katrina. She’s laughable but her dancing is pretty extraordinary here. One move on her knees when she spins herself is quite unforgettable. Her Botox is off-putting.

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          • A better than D3 1st half followed by a Mela level 2nd seems horrifying. VKA seems to have had a complete stinker. A pity because his Tashan was pretty enjoyable.

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      • Thanks for your take Jay .. Pity they messed it up.

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  105. Day one will end up around 45 cr as per tracking reports:

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    • How the average occupancy trended today in major centers sample data:

      Morning Shows ~ 50%
      Afternoon Shows ~ 60%
      Evening Shows ~ 70%
      Night Shows ~ 60%

      Details have been tweeted by this account:

      This data is not representative of bad wom at ground level …

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  106. tonymontana Says:

    DEspite social media feedback i predict Thigs to do very well. Story was non existent but this seems to be made for the single screen audience. The critic in me was disappointed but it has crowd pleasing action scenes and a larger than life canvas

    Expecting it to go the Dhoom 3 way. Should do rather well in the small towns

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  108. Telegraph:

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  109. P.K Talli Says:

    Marcus i am sure you will revise down to 200 or less in a day or two btw Taran one word review of TOH got 5000+ retweets which would be more than Salman and Srk last 4-5 flops just goes on to show how many of them were desperately waiting for an Aamir khan film to fail .

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    • There is hyper trolling but that was true for D3 also. Jay’s review is not encouraging.

      If Taran does not get his check he will use all his clout to show his influence, are you surprised?

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    • And its not just TOH, if you think Zero trailer hits are ‘genuine’ then it will surely open to 65 cr nett on Dec 21.

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  110. tonymontana Says:

    Jayshah Firangi Mallah behaved a lot like Sanjay Singhania of Ghajini. Every few minutes he forgot whose side he was on!

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    • Beyond a point this works but in the second half after the pre interval climax you’d think it’s a simple revenge story. This is why Ghajini still moves me today. It hits all the right notes in the love story for you to root for a maniac.

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    • Aamir will.bounce back from this. He has in the past at much worse times.

      Let’s only hope it won’t be 2 long years before we see him again. I hope he has something lined up already that will be announced in next few weeks or so.

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      • he doesn’t have anything to bounce back from. He’s allowed to fail once a decade! And really for the first time since Lagaan, assuming the box office here is as bad as the responses. Because no one was giving MP these reviews. I’m just surprised he went ahead with this script, and yes to the extent that his judgment means more for the audience than any other star’s, this will be a blow in that sense. But otherwise this is just a big project that went very wrong and it’s really more at Yashraj’s doorstep than anything else.

        on a related note and before some SRK fans foolishly rush in to attack (as they have since the advertising started for this film) don’t make me count SRK’s misfires over the last 10-12 years. Similarly Salman (who even on a good day does Sultan) has had two total failures in the last two years (Tubelight, race 3), before this even the Barjatya was very poor. So let’s not get into silly season here. The Aamir fans are calling it like it is on the film.

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  111. Even after such negative response it has destroyed all the records https://www.boxofficeindia.com/report-details.php?articleid=4413

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    • It might still do 300 or more if this pace can be kept up beyond the weekend. Going by D3 numbers. On the other hand that film was very stable for 10 days or so. That doesn’t happen without the audience minimally liking it at some level. Even today and irrespective of initial films can come crashing down after a few days. Will be interesting to see where TOH lands up.

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    • This is all good and I expected this. If my own senses were in order and trailer, music all came together this would have done 60Cr if WOM was good. This was easily a huge opportunity for some ridiculous numbers. Now most likely it will be a technical flop or whatever. But a flop film for me no matter what business as it won’t trend well at all. I’m open for some solid business till Sunday but cracks will definitely show. Twitter won’t spare Aamir – his fanbase is way more demanding. Even in my theatre people were walking out towards end. But in saying that there is enough one liners and witty humour to keep people laughing.

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      • yes I think with strong WOM it might have done 60 plus and even if not it would have roared over the weekend.

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        • Occupancy post afternoon have stayed very strong..in multiplexes advances were excellent too…day 2 is key..it needs to do above 35 cr I think..bhaidooj will affect north and central irrespective of wom..if it does 35+ then 300 cr is still on..

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    • To hit these figures in the the storm that social media has provided is an achievement. Let’s see what happens tomorrow. TOH is the butt of jokes and it’s going to hit 50Cr. I certainly expected more but given the way things have turned out this I did not expect.

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  112. I may be old school, but I believe pirate movies need to have eye-patches. This one doesn’t, and that’s a shame. The viewing experience would have been hugely improved. I should have gone in wearing two.

    https://www.hindustantimes.com/bollywood/thugs-of-hindostan-movie-review-aamir-khan-amitabh-bachchan-katrina-kaif-go-down-with-this-sinking-ship/story-wVrWJbn3bavozYb0RzVFML.html

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    • Awesome first day numbers. From those BOI figures, records have been broken by a big margin.

      If it holds on Monday at a decent level, it very much has a chance to reach a very healthy total.

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  113. Certain trade folk have watched the film, slammed it like they would do with Salman or SRK. But for latter you will see them posturing with a defence. I saw it with JHMS. Aamir will never get this support.

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  114. Bob cristo Says:

    And the curse of 8th NOV continues.
    #ThugsOfHindostan #ThugsOfHindostanReview
    #DestructionByDemonetisation #DemonetisationDisaster https://t.co/jsY2fctdP9

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  115. Thugs Of Hindostan (HINDI) has destroyed all box records as it collects in the 50 crore nett range on the first day. It will the first film to hit this mark if it reaches with final collections in the morning. The previous record was 39.32 crore of Prem Ratan Dhan Payo if we count outright Hindi films only and.40.73 crore nett if we include box office legend Bahubali – The Conclusion. It is also the highest single day in history as it beats the Sunday numbers of Sanju.

    Thugs Of Hindustan has beaten every single circuit figure of Prem Ratan Dhan Payo that is certain while though it will be ahead of Bahubali – The Conclusion in terms of all India collections some circuits maybe a little less as the major difference between Thugs of Hindustan and Bahubali – The Conclusion is coming from the South (where Bahubali – The Conclusion had a limited release in Hindi), Delhi / UP and Bihar

    Delhi / UP and Bihar are extraordinary as Delhi / UP figure may beat the Bahubali – The Conclusion figure by 2 crore nett and Bihar also may come out 50 lakh ahead. The film has run riot in these two circuits with multiplexes collecting earth shattering numbers and single screens running house full across both circuits.

    The holiday factor has pushed the film and Bahubali – The Conclusion was not a holiday but still the numbers have to be done. It is easy to say 45 or 50 crore nett but to actually get is a huge achievement today. In the future even a 50 crore nett number will look small as many films do it as ticket prices get higher and higher.

    The big benchmarks apart from the all India 50 crore nett day one that are on for the film are a 10 crore nett total in Delhi / UP which no one has even got close to, even 9 crore nett has not been surpassed on any day. It also could get 3 crore nett in Rajasthan and 1.50 crore nett in Bihar.

    There is a possibility of the film going over 50 crore nett when the final figures come out in the morning. The range at present is a big one between 48-52 crore as 48 crore it has done for sure and 52 crore nett is a possibilty. This all depends on the where the final figures of Mumbai and Delhi / UP come out at in the morning as these two could be 5-10% higher or lower than present estimates.

    Boi.

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    • The previous record was PRDP and this is why opening records don’t matter. Shit films can make such records as long as the timing is right, star-power is there, hype is huge etc.

      Who cares about such records? I know Aamir definitely won’t because this won’t do anything for his career and will bring down his brand value a lot.

      I found the trailer really average, and am not really surprised by the result. Victor has no story-telling abilities – Tashan was nothing but some style (and it’s not like it was Tarantino-level of style), D3 was a khichdi with a mishmash of Prestige, and 80s bhai-bhai drama. I don’t understand why Aamir chose to work with him again.

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      • The record is quite unforgettable especially as the movie is. And I’ll never know why Aamir let this VKA direct this. This needed someone with Rajamoulli’s vision really. Maybe even Bhansali could have. Heck a panel from this blog could have!

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  116. Seeing the reviews I can conclude few things:

    Aamir has a thing for sub par masala movies. Having done movies like Mela, Ishq, D3, Baazi, Mann and now ToH. For some reason such scripts appeal him. Maybe he tries too hard with Masala films and falls flat. He got Ghajini right though and also RH was fine. Ishq was also ok but he isn’t a great Masala movie maker. He should stick to his strengths henceforth. Or he should pick a goood Director for Masala movies, act and go home. Don’t get involved.

    A bad WOM on first day can be counter effecitive if the movie is watchable. Helps reduce high expectations.

    Finally now I know why no one was shown the movie prior to proper release. They knew the quality.

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    • Nope. They know how anti amirians will be waiting in the wings to destroy the film. That is why they did not show the film before the release. In that case, the first day numbers would have been affected. Now they can relax. The first day record is set for the present.

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    • IdeaUnique Says:

      actually for masala fares, Aamir shd turn to South directors instead of Vijay-Crap-Acharyas…..

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  117. As I watched this morning, I liked second half better than first … to me it was more engaging with all those twists and turns (though predictable but still entertaining). Writing definitely lacked layers and depth , but isn’t it is norm with every other action movie ? Tiger zinda hai was also equally silly and flat , atleast #TOH has performances to watch out. Less said about Baaghi-2 , the better. This is thousand times better than that crap.

    I am not sure how this negativity spreads, but this movie is soft target for sure. In my personal view, this is one time watchable with same entertainment value as ETT or TZH , with added bonus of great performances.

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    • That’s what I was going to post. If expectations are reduced and people watch it as Salman movie and not Aamir movie it will be ok.

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    • I have seen middling reviews from people on Facebook groups..No one is saying it is bad as reviews suggest but not saying good things. It needed couple of hit songs to sustain better. Raja Hindustani, Fanaa, Ghajini all were having chartbusters. Here the songs are very average.

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  118. Aamir always said that it is a fun movie not to be taken seriously and kids will enjoy it. And ordinary people who are not intellectuals may also enjoy it. He knew what was the deal.

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  119. taran is not saying anything about the huge opening. He is promoting all the movies ignoring toh. It is funny to see how Boi and Taran have switched sides!

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  120. Hey everyone ! Was searching for a Hindi movie portal & a friend suggested this blog.

    Good to be here !

    My name is Jay, Director with a leading IT Services company, crazy business traveller & a movie buff.

    Was going through the thread ! An unbelievably comprehensive & consolidated view of information and opinions.

    I watched Thugs today with family in Bangalore and here are my inputs.

    1. A sub par masala fare, as good or as bad as kick, reddy, HNY & most other masala movies.

    2. Everyone but me liked they movie, i expected a little more finesse from an Aamir / Bachan flick. This is the first time in ages that we as a family have gone to watch any movie first day. I convinced everyone to come along / booked ticket in advance etc.

    3. The twists and turns and extremely predictable and the movie simply does not soar at any level through its entire duration. Not sure how many of us went to see Dhoom3 and were frustrated that the movie never really rose above the obvious, the same director and the same outcome here. Not sure why Aamir went with this guy the second time. And to think of an opportunity to have the legendary Mr.Bachan for company, I can only say that this is an opportunity lost.

    4. Coming to business, as I checked while coming out at the box office. Most plex shows were booked through the weekend, barring the first few rows which anyways can get taken at runtime. So I see this movie doing great business over the entire weekend.

    5. Unlike what I read here on the blog, this won’t crash on Monday. In fact I am pretty sure that this will surprise everyone. 7 folks of my family had fun and love the movies. This is better than movies a like TZH, Baaghi 2, HNY etc.

    6. I am surprised at some of the reviews, infact cant fathom someone like TA give low ratings. He gives good rating to all movies stating business potential. Raja Sen I agree is consistent & he had given 5 stars to both Lagaan & Dedh Ishqiya. Both exceptionally good movie and my favs. So he can still stick to his guns.

    6. Mr. Bachan should have been given a better deal. This man is most probably not going to do many big movies from now on. Such an opportunity should not have been wasted.

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    • Welcome to the forum…

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      • I was confused. I thought that Jayshah shortened his name.
        If there are two similar names like for example munna and munna or sanjana and sanjana, how to identify who is the first one and who is the new one? Or the new one has to add some numerals so that difference can be maintained?

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    • tonymontana Says:

      so r u jay or jay 2.0?
      If the latter, you must be looking forward to the rajni akki starrer with bated breath
      Welcome to bog. working for IT and be interested in a highly subjective art like cinema must provide a great contrast.
      curious to read your opinions further from the potential politically incorrect individual such as you

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      • I’ll love to add more value here ! And I like the indulgent / welcoming nature of the users here. Thanks !

        I’m in consulting / sales which is as much an art as it is technical knowhow (wink).

        I think we need to talk about 3 dying art forms.

        1. Political Correctness. This is pretty obvious, sad but true.

        2. Cinema as a medium of entertainment for the adult population. I was based close to a Lowe in Emeryville in the summer holiday time this year & the only times you knew that was a movie hall and not a food court was when the summer Disney movies / Jurassic world released. And those you would agree are more tuned towards a younger audience. Netflix is the obvious choice & after Disney fully takes over Hulu , the cinematic space will further shrink. Disney which is now the last Hollywood movie experience will itself put the final nail in. Shorter forms of entertainment / byte sized entertainment capsules will become the norm. Monetisation will be subscription based, movie pass is already doing that for theatres but no one still wants to go to the theatre. At home / on mobile it will work.

        Now I’m certain in India the same will happen, but the platform of consumption will be mobile.

        3. Superstars : Amitabh, 3 Khan’s, Rajni, Akshay with differing clout at different stages are the last superstars. As with Hollywood, the stars would soon not matter as cinema itself will have taken a backseat. & event movies would be more kids friendly.

        Hence while these superstars are still around I would absolutely love to watch all of them in movies that are well made.

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        • Welcome Jay 2.0, my robot sequel 😀

          By the way, Jay was fine for you as I had Shah in my handle.

          What of the 3 Raj’s? Feels like they are confusing like Raj Malhotra, Raj Aryan or other Raj’s.

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    • Fair analysis.

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  121. Bob Cristo Says:

    300cr+ ws always on. I maintained it throughout but that was not the expectation of Aamir fans.

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  122. Public reviews.

    Victor Director is also there.

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  123. Story, screenplay and direction : Vijay Acharya. Right from the time the film went on floor I was always apprehensive for this precise reason, despite the presence of Amitabh Bachchan and Aamir Khan. Unfortunately, my apprehensions and doubts seem to have come true. This one seems to be carrying negativity at par with the likes of Ra.1 and HNY. Perhaps it might trend better than Race 3, yet its still gonna be a mega colossal disappointment. Victor seems to be the new age Dharmesh Darshan for Aamir. After a blockbuster with a substandard RH, he signed Mela with the same film maker, which tanked. Dhoom 3 and TOH with Victor Acharya seems analogous.

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  124. Bob Cristo Says:

    This 50cr day 1 will work as multiplier. People may watch the film to know what is there to do 50 cr day 1 buisness.

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  125. Thugs of Hindostan: Quick take
    Indianexpress.com’s Komal says, “Thugs of Hindustan is predictable, but that doesn’t take away its entertainment quotient. There are few good comic moments. The set design is good if we don’t compare it with Pirates of the Caribbean. It is richer than what we have seen in Indian films. Same would go for CG and VFX. Aamir is fun to watch as Firangi and Amitabh Bachchan does a commendable job. Fatima Sana Sheikh is good too. I am sure kids will love this film, because it has good amount of ships and action sequences without violence attached to it. It is an entertainer.”

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  126. IdeaUnique Says:

    i think this will fall in those films category where critics had universally panned the films but at the BO, they were winners….aamir in sallu zone now….although his performance has been liked by all and one…same for Big B….culprit here is the Victor and well…children seem to be lapping this film up..

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  127. IdeaUnique Says:

    some of the trollers on twitters are having a ball at the cost of TOH 🙂 HA HA HA – so much funny……

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  128. tonymontana Says:

    audience and viewers can be savage without any reason! sure they could have worked more on the story but they’re being way too harsh — as if there hasn’t been a worse movie made.

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  129. tonymontana Says:

    anyways the most useless character was the eagle. kept flying from here to there distracting the protagonists without serving any purpose other than irritating the hell out of audience and actors.

    the second most useless decision was getting amitabh to fight. he couldnt dance for heavens sake and he was expected to do those moves. he should sue vijay krishna acharya for making him go through that ordeal.

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  130. tonymontana Says:

    and i do not know why aamir let fatima sana sheikh act in this film. she fails miserabluy. i think she should continue playing a younger adult/school kid for sometime before she attempts something as challenging. her performance was bad. even katrina was better than her.

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    • nepotism?

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    • Fatima is totally miscast. Either Kangana, Deepika or Alia could have done this role. She looked out of place. Katrina was par the course. 2 songs, good dancing. Few dialogues and delivered like only she can. Clive was utterly dull IMO. His 2nd in line a lot better.

      That Yakuza preferred 2nd half gives the film some hope.

      Critics have been OTT for sure. Those that are both critics & box office analysts will have to compromise at some stage.

      Aamir’s single biggest worry should be China. Indian viewers will forgive him and he’ll bounce back but Chinese market I suspect will be quite surprised – but it’s too hard to 2nd guess that audience automatically. D3 was lukewarm their, I’d be shocked if this did half the business of Secret Superstar. I guess they have to release it now given the money given to YRF, ideally it shouldn’t go to China.

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      • the problem with a film like TOH is also the expectations game. Even if it’s at TZH level the audience expects a lot more here. With Salman the audience just expects a bit more than passable.

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        • That’s true. Even though YRF didn’t carpet bomb marketing, everyone would have expectations pre trailer. After K3G this was the biggest casting coup of this century.
          And because it will not work, doing it again in another film makes no sense.

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  131. Thugs Of Hindustan Records Insane City And Circuit Records

    The collections of the first day of Thugs Of Hindostan (HINDI) are coming in and they are simply insane from multiplexes to single screens from North to South. Obviously there is going to out performance and under performance when the circuits are compared but when compared to other films the records are practically everywhere. The early figures from some circuits are as follows compared to Prem Ratan Dhan Payo which is the highest opening day for an outright Hindi film.

    https://www.boxofficeindia.com/report-details.php?articleid=4414

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    • This film has been mauled since the first show started on Twitter. I followed most comments out of interest. It was 90% negative and not a single review has been positive. And yet it’s still broke records (possible numbers might come in lower tomorrow). Given how pre release predictions plummeted based on ‘weaker’ than expected advance to say a maximum of 50Cr – all those distributors predicting 35Cr or 40Cr – do they even know their business models?

      Capacity has to be higher than 65Cr so I agree with Marcus on that and disagree with Krish.

      If a film arrives with everything aligned, a national holiday, wide release, cast, genre etc 60Cr is easily doable. And really the 50Cr for TOH is inflated by ticket prices plus post GST so comparing with PRDP is pretty stupid IMO. Better to compare to Sanju’s Sunday of 47Cr or whatever BOI had for it. Even there the potential 50Cr is only adding 6% and all that can be explained by ticket prices. The sensational number would have been 60Cr here or more but as Krish said all bets were off once Twitter watched and reviewed/panned the film.

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  132. Nahta has more or less the Taran line on this:

    On the whole, Thugs Of Hindostan is a major disappointment. The word of mouth for the film will be bad (despite the fact that the masses may not hate it) and, therefore, collections will drop down fast and furiously after the initial euphoria dies down and after the festive and holiday period gets over. The producers, of course, may make some profits but that’s more because they had sold the satellite and digital rights of the film at phenomenal prices, before the film’s theatrical release. Compared to the scale, canvas and budget of the film, its box-office earnings will be a dampener.

    https://komalsreviews.wordpress.com/2018/11/08/thugs-of-hindostan/

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    • Even with a 50 cr opening, I doubt 300 cr is a possibility here. I guess a Gold kinda trending, 4-5x its day 1 number would be a more realistic scenario here culminating in a 200-250 cr lifetime total.

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      • There is a huge spread on where this could finish. Anything between 150-300Cr is possible. I’d be open to either side right now. The first day number is very strong considering what we think WOM is. Indian audience might see this as a unique one time watch for Big B Aamir combo and then 275-300Cr is possible. Monday all will be clear.

        I am curious to see how it opens tomorrow. It’s still an interesting box office story to follow as a big film flopping can still tell you what market potential is out there.

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  133. Watched it with my family, my youngest son 7 year old says it was a Superb movie. Ha

    After reading the negative WoM my expectations were very low, so I quite liked it as a one time watch. For me as well 2nd half was better than the first one.

    Not bad as Dhoom 3 but not good as Ghajini either, it should have been promoted more as a movie for kids.

    Aamir should stop working with YRF though, he should produce his own movies and do away with working for someone else.

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    • There are more positive views on TOH on SS than the whole of Twitter today. Conspiracy theorists will suggest a cartel at work here!

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  134. Hi guys, this is Vee; same person, different email ID. I’ve been trying to comment from my usual device and ID but nothing goes through; I’m not sure what the issue is. I hope I haven’t been blocked haha!

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  135. P.K Talli Says:

    Tomorrow drop will be bigger especially in the plexes .. Advance seems lot less compared to today . Expect it to drop by 45% -50%

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  136. Since the verdict on ToH is anyways out, I’ll chime in with some flogging-the-dead-horse bits as well. The problem isn’t that ToH is a stale, hackneyed film – that was kind of visible through the trailers – the real problem is that it shaped up to be worse in the end. And this is the key point – it shaped up worse despite Aamir being a part of it. To some extent, it’s not much of a surprise – Dhoom 3 was nonsensical enough to have given cause to some alarm, but we, the people, have short memories. The title was intriguing, the pairing was historic and that was assumed to be enough. We all forgot how utterly crap YRF has been over the years, and of course, what Viktor (Vijay Krishna becomes Viktor, go figure!) dished out in the name of entertainment last time around. The telltale signs were there, only we chose to ignore it. Just because of Aamir. That’s the cross he has to bear.

    The masala genre itself isn’t the problem. It’s how one handles it. And certainly, with the Indian audiences getting a healthy dose of Hollywood each week, the treatment deserves a certain update as well. It has to be intelligent masala, not just masala for the masses. A Khakee or Ghajini is fine but Dhoom 3 or ToH is not. That’s not to say that Murugadoss will work every time in Bollywood – but the masala narrative needs to be plausible enough for the audiences to emotionally invest themselves. In that respect, the likes of Farah Khan or Viktor have done a serious disservice to the genre. If done right, this is the only genre which can smash box office records (Baahubali) because this is what we all have grown up with. Bollywood is synonymous with masala, but its cruder, more coarse elements have to be either tucked away or given a nice window-dressing, especially in this time and age.

    Having said that, I’m not at all a fan of the Baahubali series.

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  137. Did Jay Shah write review (of 1st half) while watching movie and before 2nd half. Meaning in the interval? Wow. That is dedication. Hats off to you J.S. and now there is 2.0 to compete with you!!

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  138. Looks like a big disappointment!

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  139. So far the story has been just as I expected …

    1. Trolls and srk/sallu/akki fans had a field day.

    2. Reviewers suddenly uplifted their standards (happens when the privileged ones are not pampered at press screenings and publications/stalwarts dont get their PR paychecks for writing reviews).

    3. Indian audience is reliable enough to dig any sub-par commercial film with a star-cast. (They do it all the time for other stars, why would they leave out an Aamir film?)

    Where will it go from here? The trolls are now saying (and praying) for HNY/PRDP scenario, which essentially means 5X multiplier. That is 250 cr nett. IF that happens then likes of BOI will end up calling it ‘above average’ or ‘semi-hit’ (only because it has Aamir, with Sallu or SRK in it it would be classified as a Hit).

    In my books anything less than 300 cr will be embarrassing. This will probably not sustain at D3 level (which would take it past 350 cr given TOH’s higher initial), but will do better than PRDP or HNY (both are actually considered as ‘hits’ by respective fans!).

    Weekend may still do 150 cr in 4 days. I would wait for monday to gauge actual ground level response of this movie.

    Anyways, watching it tonight.

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    • Btw, with his latest tweet Big B has put salim-javed to shame.

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    • I wonder who is the biggest troll on this site, for reference, go thru any topic and you’ll get the answer very easily.

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      • Yes if you can read, then trolls are majorly synonymous with ‘srk fans’. And everytime they show their colors, you get offended cause you are a proud srk fan. The joke is on you Mr Z. At least you cant demand a separate thread for TOH BO now since this one is labeled as such. LOL

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      • And thanks for trolling me again as usual.

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  140. How comes YT reviews are so much better than twitter?

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  141. joyless slog that appears like jail term…..moth eaten script…ouch.

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  142. Friday advance booking is around 30% in major centers as per data in the account below. Same source had average 35% advance bookings for Thursday. Factor in 15% less in ticket prices today. these itself accounts for 20% fall in collections today.

    40% fall today will be ok. Thats 30 cr nett to be explicit.

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    • And whats happening with Aamir is kind of natural in many ways. He did his best work in his forties (usually an age frame where the best best stars like Bachchan would decay). In his fifties, he seems to be suffering from egoism and complacency. I have seen most successful men in their fifties go through this. Blinded by the success achieved in their prime (usually forties in most line of work), they become quite biased, prejudiced and complacent. Their credential cant be doubted by their ‘history’, but their decisions become ridiculous. How else do you explain this downgrade in quality after Dangal? First SS, now ToH. Lets hope better sense prevails and biopics of osho or gulshan kumar do not materialize.

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      • The kind of backlash it has received will negate its box-office performance however Crores it might end up with in its final tally! Massive disappointment from Aamir as giving 2 years to such a trash is a cruel joke on the audience who trust Aamir blindly and wait for his film with bated breath!! It’s a blow on that trust as bashing seems to be universal in nature from critics to the audience which is very rare as Aamir seems to have mastered the art of balancing both or in some cases either of the one but here he is getting mauled by both!! The biggest question is what he saw in this hotchpotch storyline which has neither the novelty nor the able director to pull this off?? And that too when he is getting to act with Amitabh Bachchan in the most expensive Hindi movie is not only baffling but once in a life time opportunity missed!! Never expected such a misreading from Aamir ever!!

        He needs to pull his socks up and give up on his complacency, if any!! And move as far from the Osho biopic or any biopic for that matter as possible and try to focus on his core strength which is humane aspect of storytelling than this over the top stuff. And he should also work with new breed of directors to explore new vistas and avenues as he did with John Mathew Matthan in Sarfarosh, Farhan Akhtar in DCH and Rakeysh Mehra in RDB. One could sense his sticking with Hirani but with Victor is really a bizarre decision!! Also he needs to quicken his speed by releasing at the very least one movie a year or in 18 months but a gap more than this is neither feasible nor judicious keeping his age in mind as he is going to be 54 in March next year. I have faith in him and hope this would just be a ‘blip’ in his filmography.

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  143. UP Big Three All Smash Records With Thugs Of Hindustan
    Thursday 08 November 2018 04.30 IST
    Box Office India Trade Network

    Thugs Of Hindustan has set insane records across UP. The film looks to have netted a huge 6.50 crore nett apprx in the state with the collections from 50 plus cinema halls in Delhi city to come which could hit 4 crore giving the circuit a crazy 10.50 crore nett first day. The three big cities of UP (proper) are simply phenomenal and as follows. The NCR part of UP is also insane as Noida and Ghaziabad shatter all records by distances with around 1.75 crore nett between them.

    Lucknow – 62,00,000 apprx

    Footfalls – 44,000 apprx

    Kanpur – 40,13,460

    Footfalls – 30,072

    Agra – 31,46,386

    Footfalls – 27,348

    TOTAL – 1,33,59,846 apprx

    Footfalls – 1,01,420

    The three cities have seen a turnout of 1 lakh people on the first day alone which is HISTORY. Ek Tha Tiger and Bahubali – The Conclusion also saw a lakh turnout in these three cities but it was on the Sunday for both films.

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  144. Thugs Of Hindustan has recorded earth shattering numbers in East Punjab and the circuit could hit the 5 crore nett mark which will be a first for the circuit. Bahubali – The Conclusion was 4.64 crore nett, Sultan was 4.01 crore nett, Prem Ratan Dhan Payo was 3.98 crore nett, Sanju was 3.68 crore nett and Happy New Year was 3.51 crore nett. These are the top five in the circuit and Thugs of Hindustan could breach the 5 crore nett mark which is extraordinary. It has beaten all the films for sure except maybe Bahubali – The Conclusion. If the collections from the smaller centres of Haryana come in a bit less than expected than the final total could fall in the Bahubali range.

    The collections from the big cities of East Punjab are as follows.

    Gurgaon – 76,16,088

    Chandigarh – 61,00,000 apprx

    Faridabad – 48,66,441

    Ludhiana – 45,67,170

    Jalandhar – 23,53,194

    Amritsar – 22,00,000 apprx

    Jammu – 16,94,683

    Patiala – 10,79,023

    The figures have crossed 3 crore nett from the above eight cities only which gives the film a shot at the 5 crore nett mark. The numbers from the smaller cities will tell if 5 crore nett comes or not.

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    • It’s actually rather upsetting. Such incredible numbers, such a chance the film had to create true history.

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      • Boi’s numbers are indicating a gap between day one figures of BB2(hindi)/PRDP and TOH that is as big as the gap between RNBDJ and Ghajini in 2008!

        A great opportunity wasted. Its not just about one’s caliber (whoever you are), its also about the projects you work on and who your colleagues are.

        This 50 cr opening number is more disheartening than the silly reviews and trolling we saw yesterday. Bad luck Satyam! Aamir has a love for masala that makes me equate him with you in my mind, although i dont support it. 😛

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      • P.K Talli Says:

        The hysteria in single screens specially in smaller cities reminds me of Ghajini , if only reviews were better like that film Aamir might have got his first 500 cr grosser .

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      • IdeaUnique Says:

        i repeat, such magnum opus shd be handed over to South Directors for direction purpose. They are miles ahead in this dept. YRF shd have given this to Rajamauli/Shankar/Murugadass

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      • Exactly. I look at these numbers and think what if rather than great. The problem will be if by hook or crook this continues to some degree and people are invested in it again.

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  145. IdeaUnique Says:

    Chalo atleast 1st is above 50 cr – ek record to bana 🙂 Fri/Sat/Sun will be packed as WOM is good from children and hence parents have no other option there 🙂

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  146. Mere paas boi hai!, say thugs!

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  147. These guyz have 51.2 cr nett figure.

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    “On the opening day, with a terrific response from single screens as well as the multiplexes, Thugs Of Hindostan has done the business of 51.20 crores nett at the domestic box office including Hindi, Tamil & Telugu versions. With this, it has also emerged as the highest single-day grosser of all time by breaking the record of Sanju (46.71 crores on day-3).”

    https://boxofficecollection.in/box-office-report/thugs-of-hindostan-1st-day-box-office-collection-registers-biggest-opening-of-all-time-38682

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    • We will need a new thread once official numbers come in. This thread is already too long and taking a lot of time to load.

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  148. Bob Cristo Says:

    I dont know why Aamir’s fan are acting grumpy and petty. Since so many years you looked down upon every actor. You make fun of every actor. Personally for me in last 5 to 7 years it is Akshay who is working on the best script. He has the variety but still Aamir fans made fun of Akki. Aamir’s fan act snooty. Now it is pay back time. So why cry ? what you sow you reap. Its simple. Some member (Even Big B’s fan) are so much into Aamir’s sucking that they are ignoring how criminally Amitabh has been sidelined in ToH. Jusk ask people they still have memory of Narayan shankar, Yashvardhan Raichand or Sexy Sam..But look at Khuda Baksh.

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    • Grumpy? We are just laughing at likes of you. Imagine a guy looking forward to zero is thrashing TOH as a poor film. Greatest irony in my books.

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