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Avatar2 looks like heading towards a 190cr plus first week. Looks on course to beat TKF and RRR (hindi).
Circus looks like the next disaster, unfortunately.
Avatar 2 has done exceedingly well in India in week one. 190+ cr in 7 days is great. Hollywood releases usually dont do that well in second weekend and 80% drops are common. I think Avatar 2 may hold somewhat better than that. I would expect it to do at least 30 cr over second weekend (8+10+12). Anything more would be a bonus. Worldwide also the movie is faring below expectations; but may hold well over the holiday period.
I saw the film yesterday. A tedious, terrible borefest. Didnt mind the first film so much. From what I remember it was an enjoyable experience in theaters. But not so much this time.
Hype will take it to 1-1.2B worldwide in the final tally and will be a money-maker. But not a record blockbuster like other Cameron films. This is his weakest film in decades.
Ever since it came out in the open that the cost of Avatar 2 is $400M, i have been expecting a Brahmastra like scenario where box office collections wont be bad but the movie overall wont be much profitable. And the mixed reactions will hurt the prospects of the next part in the series. Cameron shud have moved on to other projects instead of beating around Avatar imo. Even Battle Alita was a better film than this.
It could have been easily edited into a 2hr movie as nothing much happens most of the time. But Cameron is in over-indulgent mode here. It seems like he took the first avatar success too much into his head to look at the sequel any objectively. I wonder why Studio execs at Disney didnt have much of a say here. I guess either Cameron’s reputation was too awe-inspiring or he is adept at keeping studio interventions away from his work.
Even I am skipping Cirkus and Pathaan. Not sure of these 2 movies. There seems to be a lot of desperation from both Srk and Deepika’s end to make a comeback in Pathaan. And YRF is just being YRF, which obviously is not good.
On the other hand, Shetty seems over-confident with a poor product. Cirkus may be a rare flop from him. At best it will be an average grosser like Dilwale was.
The trailer was itself lacklustre for Cirkus. At least that was pretty good for Pathaan.
If Cirkus works, it will be only because of RS. And Given his track record of mediocre films, I assume this one won’t be any different.
God save Pathaan. They’re raising the WTFery bar with every subsequent song. I have a feeling this will be done and dusted before the first day is even over.
Obviously anything can misfire. Basically it’s a script written for action star and then put SRK into it. That’s the ‘newness” part. I agree that song is average and badly pictures but don’t see any issue with Srk dancing. That’s not an issue at all. All action movies have a dancing number with hero dancing. The reason movie can dissapoint is they are delivering average songs but then Vishal -Shekhar are done now. Story and action are different domains, let’s see how much That’s impacted. Action will be fine if they hired foreign action directors, rest all is story should be above average.
Well.. Krishna did predict the Kali Yug 5000 years ago with 2 rotten pieces of shit becoming global financial super powers at loggerheads, one which believes in bonded slave labour and another that’s purely surviving on immigrants **edited**. So yea, no surprises at the Chinese virus’s reoccurence.
Very glad to see ‘Jhund’ here. It was well-made movie, but lost in the heap of bigger movies of the year.
PS:Vasudev menon’s ”Vendhu Thanindhathu Kaadu” is one the good movies of this year too to me.
Watched VTK. For the first time, I liked GVM after Kamal’s serial murderers’ movie. I hate that so-called actor Simbaa or whatever he is known as. But he did a good job here. Kudos. A good, lyrical film with underpinnings of NAYAKAN and AGNEEPATH. Definitely watchable, and ARR’s score is magnanimous…
Simbu in the right hands/right role is a good talent. He is also multi faceted (music, lyrics, directs, writes etc) which makes him go over the top and try to do monkey tricks causing most people to hate him. I usually avoid his films as well, but his last two are pretty solid (Maanadu a time travel masala film which is extremely fun watch with a terrific SJ Suryah as villain) and VTV.
A highly underrated film yes. Much more relatable to Maharashtra I suppose. And as wonderful films as they are, I do hope the Indian film industry doesn’t have to make films like Major, Shershah and Uri again.
Interesting list, have not seen a few in here. Did not like RRR or KGF2 much and prefer Kantara over both. I saw it in theater in Kanada before it became big or was even posted on here so the hype did not impact my views. As a standard masala output it worked well for me as it has some great moments and I do believe the last 15 mins did the trick, the audience were left hypnotized and in a daze and that is how the word of mouth spread. I do agree it is overated, has some crass stuff in there (which unfortunately was a realistic portryal of Indian youth imho) and I was surprised at the crazy hyperbolic reactions to Kantara a month after I watched it! I would rate 777 Charlie significantly higher and is possibly my best film last year (need to think of my list actually). I also loved Minnal Murali in Malayalam although that came in 2021. Major was good and I always liked Advi Sesh. His recent Hit 2 is decent well made tight thriller, check it out if you like his work.
Don’t see any issue with the song unless you have some notion that game show shouldn’t be promoted this way. Promotion can done by anyway and that era was making promotional videos. Heck, Srk even made for KKR team.
From BOI’s latest commentary it looks like Cirkus opening will be around 10 cr only. Avatar 2’s thursday is 13.5 cr as per sacnilk, so it can do 10 cr tomorrow too.
Will be a shame if both Cirkus and Avatar 2 both do 10 cr tomorrow.
People are hoping they get such a clean slate for release and here we have SOLO release in Circus for all Christmas and New Year holidays and then further till Jan 25th, like a free month and yet it Circus doesn’t do well, it’ll be biggest flop IMO. You don’t get such free release dates ever! Pathaan should have released this time instead.
If Cirkus fails as the advance is indicating, Avatar 2 may as well take advantage of the holidays and beat Brahmastra’s 257 cr total in India. IF it sustains v well over next 2 weeks it can even challenge RRR’s 274 cr hindi total.
As I said earlier….Shetty is giving Sajid Khan vibes..and now time to deliver a flop. Sooryavanshi’s real feedback and Ranveer’s poor form adds to his woes.
The lack of advance is a shocker nevertheless. The movie in current state can open even less than 5 crs which would be shocking. Movie business has become unpredictable post covid. Movie we expect to open around 20 crs have advance of a opening of 5 crs.
We all expect pathaan to open 35crs up but really there is no saying till advance opens honestly
Haven’t seen A2. It looks like it’s a massive failure in the US while profiting outside of continental USA. Even the US citizens are now calling out for lack of writing/quality it seems!!
There are conflicting statements…so one’s not sure…
Part 1 wasn’t great writing either but it moved fast. In this one it just drags and is over 3 hours. they could easily cut it down to 2 1/2 hours and it would have been fine and hold interest.
I also don’t think the CGI is all that great than part 1.
Quite surprised overall. Seems like a skip for me – it was my most awaited film of 2022 but I have lost all energy. I rather watch repeats of WC final at the moment!!!
I may still try to watch it. Cameron says that part 3 is 95% shot and it’s been designed in such a way that it part 2 under performs heavily, they’ll wind up with part 3 and end with a trilogy OR else he has parts 4 & 5 to shoot in next 2 years together.
Last night I had a wonderful dream of a cricket match played between SS members.
AnJo, Shivaay, Naveen, and Rocky were in one team and Z, Master, and Marcus were in the other. Krish was the common batsman between them.
Munna was the umpire, and I was the third umpire.
Z, Master, and Marcus team appealed for a run out and the decision went to me, i.e. the third umpire. I mistakenly got Shivaay out even when he was well within the crease. An argument erupted between both the teams on the field. But they ended up fighting on whether AB is the greatest actor of all time or not. 30 minutes later, the argument got political.
Munna tried to defuse the tension but gave up after a while and returned to the stands to have cold beer.
Visiting INDIA after 8 long years and will be in Bombay from Dec 9 to Jan 5:Tgen my native in Maga and then Bangalore and Mangalore followed by Chandigarh. Would love to meet folks from SS and have films ki bat and chai pe charcha!!!
Looks like entering Modi’s India first time. 8 yrs is enough time to notice infrastructure changes, advances and people’s attitudes. Have open chai pe charchas including and there will be no moderation (by munna or even otherwise)! 🙂
Munna: Yes, all kids and cousins grown up and smarter.
Z: Thanks. Am taking it slow, will be there for at least 2.5 months.
Tony: Thanks for the invite. Will try my best to make it to Delhi from Chandigarh.
Shivaay: Maybe it will be end of Jan or mid of February. Will be good to meetup.
Master: LOL yes, expecting culture shock and learning new things, but good to see a resurgent India.
Will be watching Avatar in Bombay! And hope there are some single screens left in Bombay or/and Bangalore to enjoy chai/samosa at reasonable prices during the interval…
Have a good time Anjo in Bharat. While in namma Bengaluru , try to catch a movie in ‘Rex’ Theater..read it is completely renovated. Only a few single screens at Majestic now and few around Malleswaram .If you arr going after 8 years you will need a paytm/google pay to make to make your life easy.
Rex is taken over by PVR now and is a multiplex. The entire complex is a mall now. Fame Shankarnag and Cauvery theater are only authentic single screens left in urban Bangalore as of now.
That’s right ‘Cauvery’ . ‘Sampige’, ‘Savitha’ theatres at Malleswaram are still operating too. Not sure how it is maintained these days. Had watched many movies there.
Ranveer Singh has 1 film in his kitty – Karan Johar’s next with Alia Bhatt and chance to get a hit movie. Rohit Shetty has Singham 3 and it’ll also have Akshay and Ranveer along with Ajay. Both can get hits there as well. Rohit Shetty should also give Golmaal 5 some more break and do masala movies.
The trailer and hype is the main thing. The trailer killed the movie and there was not a single laugh. Also, Rohit’s over confidence that it’s solo Christmas release..just 3 weeks is more than enough for all 100% promotion. Nothing about the movie till December starting and you expect everyone is aware about the movie in 3 weeks flat.
If anyone need a good movie to watch, you should watch LOVE TODAY On Netflix. Such a low budget but thoroughly entertaining and completely dependent on unique script and sharp direction makes this a great watch. 2nd film of director Pradeep who also launched himself as leading hero with this movie and yet gave very good performance. Highly recommended.
Now, Love Today has been released in 4 languages on Netflix. I saw in original kannada version. Good for folks who didn’t watch it yet and have options now.
Pradeep’s first film Comali (Jayam Ravi of PS-1 fame) is actually an interesting premise but falters a bit in execution and content overall. Check it out if you can.
Rohit Shetty will bounce back, for sure. Singham 3 and the next Golmaal are going to work, no doubt about that.
For Ranveer, it is tougher. He will need someone like SLB to back him again. The last 3 flops will have hurt his prospects considerably. With Cirkus flopping, there goes the chance of any Simmba 2 from materialising. Shetty dropped SRK as soon as Dilwale underperformed and moved on to new pastures and returned to the Devgan camp in the process.
When you open a film at 2cr (JJ), it puts into question your fans following. The main problem for Ranveer is that his major few successes have been attributed to SLB and Rohit Shetty. Even if Cirkus was working, everyone knows that the credit would be going to RS.
Right now, only someone like SLB or maybe Karan Johar may pull him out of the doldrums. He may get bit role in Singham 3, but if I were to bet, that may be as far as he can get with any future project with RS.
Which is quite sad since Ranveer is a supremely talented performer and a genuine star actor rolled into one. Far superior to his contemporaries like playboys Ranbir & Shahid in my opinion.
Rohit Shetty has delivered a flop/disaster after Sunday back in 2008. This wont hurt him as he will get back to Devgn camp and do franchise films in Singham 3 and Golmaal 5 next. Dilwale may have underperformed, but it was still a average/below avg fare at box office.
Ranveer is indeed in a tight spot now and a lot will depend on KJO film with Aliya. Ranbir is in a lot better position after Brahmastra success and with a decent line-up of films in 2023.
Bollywood is ending its disastrous year with yet another disaster in Cirkus. And with its massive underperformance another third class film from Hollywood is now going to do 300 cr or so. This year will be remembered as the year where southern (KGF2, RRR) and hollywood (Avatar 2) films beat the crap out of bollywood films.
All eyes on Pathaan now, Bollywood needs this movie to do well, once the trailer comes out along with advance booking opens we will get an idea of the opening anything is possible but I expect pathaan to open big.
As the new Covid variant strikes the world, I’m assuming cases are gonna rise in India in the next one month. Either Pathaan’s release will be delayed or its collections will be affected. Doesn’t spell good news for the makers and actors after the backlash from the two songs
This is sad!
Avatar – The Way Of Water is a BLOCBUSTER and heading for the 300 crore nett plus mark as it collects a huge 12 crore nett on its second Friday taking its overall total to over 200 crore nett. The film continues with insane collections in South as it contributes 50% of the all India collections on the second Friday.
Sacnilk is tracking 25 cr For Avatar 2 today to wish Merry Christmas to Bollywood! Almost 60 cr second weekend for a weak hollywood film. That is a record 55% fall for any hollywood film in India?
“What makes Mukhbir a gripping watch as well as a pleasant one is the way Delhi of the 60s has been brought alive. The vintage cars and scooters look pretty on one side, and the infusion of ghazals in the plot accentuates the visual appeal on the other. Also, what comes as a huge surprise is when a short and straightforward, then Prime Minister Lal Bahadur Shastri (1964-1966), says, “Gentleman, Kashmir may be a dream for Pakistan but I want Lahore for real.” Had the series released in a theatre, whistles and claps were definitely guaranteed. India taking a lead in proving that non-violence cannot be misinterpreted as cowardice, that is something the Indian audience has hardly ever seen being realised on screen. Not all from the current generation are aware of India actually crossing the line of control to capture Lahore in September, 1965.”
An absolutely brilliantly written, well enacted and taut web series that brings alive the stories of real life spies & gives us more than a sneek peek into the brutal world of espionage. Mukhbir is an absolute masterpiece that’d leave you proud as an Indian and in awe of the sacrifices and contributions of our unsung soldiers who’ve been instrumental in resisting the detestible attempts of the US backed Pakistani ISI on Indian soil (the Kashmir fantasy -an epic failure for uncle Sam & their lacky ISI dogs for almost 6 decades now!) Kudos to Shivam Nair & Zee5.
I have been a vocal critic of Rohit Shetty at time but having said that imo criticism should be purely on content and nothing else because if we start looking cinema with a particular ideological spectrum that fits our belief than it will jeopardize artistic freedom. pic.twitter.com/7frB0eYh59
I still believe that Bollywood will comeback big in 2023.
2022 was off year due to covid, but lets not hide away from the fact that going forward, south films along with films from USA will score big every year in Hindi market.
South and USA will enjoy boycott free release while our own hindi audience/media will be busy pulling down hindi films for one reason or another (mainly due to religion/politics) and in that process, outsider (south/USA) will enjoy success.
You can see pathaan post to get a clear picture. As pathaan release gets closer, you can count on the usuals to go in overdrive with pulling down the film.
Re-while our own hindi audience/media will be busy pulling down hindi films for one reason or another (mainly due to religion/politics)
You can see pathaan post to get a clear picture. As pathaan release gets closer, you can count on the usuals to go in overdrive with pulling down the film.
Coming from someone who is constantly belittling Bharat , it is a bit rich .
So he can say whatever , and rejoinder will be deleted ?
WTF ????????
Jhund
Bachchhan Paandey
Attack – Part I
Jersey
Runway 34
Heropanti 2
Jayeshbhai Jordaar
Dhaakad
Anek
Samrat Prithviraj
Shamshera
Ek Villain Returns
Raksha Bandhan
Laal Singh Chaddha
Vikram Vedha
Goodbye
Doctor G
Ram Setu
Thank God
An Action Hero
Cirkus
One thing i am unable to understand why Rohit Shetty went to PR excercise overdrive. And the strange part is that LW and RW twitter celebs are doing PR tweet for him. The tweets are so in your face that everyone can understand that they are Paid tweets. Don’t know why so much insecurity in Rohit Shetty’s part? He is not even an actor.
Rohit Shetty is huge director, if not the biggest director of Bollywood, for the brand value and audience. Most of them accept it without any issue but the issue arises if he himself starts saying that. Even after the tremendous effort in opening theaters and holding off Sooryavanshi, Rohit never claimed fame but this time around it was very different and it was many who noticed the difference. I mean the whole interviews were just how Rohit Shetty is master film maker and his connect. Bollywood Hungama’s interview was like, let’s not talk all about movie…let’s just ask individually everyone what we’re you doing when you received Rohit’s Cirkus movie offer and what was your reaction? Khilnani said, Rohit Shetty can pick anyone from the industry and cast them in his movie, so how hard is the process like whom to give chance now or whom to select now. Everyone went on and on that they couldn’t believe that they got offered Cirkus and whole interview was about Rohit Shetty as some sort of God and not a film maker.
Either ways, Rohit Shetty is intelligent and he’ll be back right away and also change his attitude. Ranveer Singh will be impacted but so far everyone is just calling out Rohit Shetty for Cirkus’s flop. Next is Singham 3 and Golmaal 5 and both will be huge blockbusters as expected.
One more point which Rohit said that most of the film makers are unable to understand audience’s taste post pandemic. He’s referring to Sooryavanshi but actually that was a movie about to be released pre-pandemic and his first real test post pandemic movie is actually Cirkus. Rohit also failed at same which he’s commenting other film makers are failing.
This 2.2 minutes clip should be watched by everyone in Bollywood .
A short film on how content providers on OTT & other platforms, films & pornography promotion are main cause of increasing menace of rape terrorising our society. It was launched by me today in Bhopal as part of ‘Save Culture,Save Nation’ campaign. Let’s join hands this battle. pic.twitter.com/rNduwjBpQD
What more do you expect when disgusting C grade content like Mirzapur & Sacred Games gets far more views than genuinely solid brilliant shows like Mukhbir & Suzhal.
Things will go to trash if you keep talking about each other or spam the forum. There are too many pros and against things about anything on social media, everything doesn’t need to show up here. Opinion on topics (acerbic or mild) are okay if language is acceptable.
Avatar 2 at 223cr on Saturday has gone past Drishyam 2 (at around 220cr) and was practically on par with Brahmastra (230cr). Sunday may have seen it leapfrog TKF as well and comfortably go above the 250cr mark. RRR (hindi) will be crossed during this week.
It is going to go past the 300cr mark and collect much beyond for sure, with the festive period extending its run. Only KGF 2 (hindi) will remain unbeaten.
Excellent run and trending. Not sure we are going to see collections like these again during the next few months.
We will not, Pathaan, etc will not earn like this.
Movie needs to have a clean, boycott free release to do good. Of course the movie itself has to be good too but it doesn’t help when there are factors going against it which has nothing to do with the movie itself.
This is really sad. For months i’ve been pinning hope on Cirkus. I guess a reset is needed because shetty was being pretty cocky. This should humble him little.
Even I’m sure Rohit Shetty will bounce back with Singham 3 but there are some folks who think that Hindi audience have been exposed to better masala directors in RRR, KGF and Pushpa that Rohit Shetty needs to really up his game to impress hindi audiences with his masala ventures. All the same stuff which was working earlier may not work now. Singham & Simmba both brands are actually south film remakes. He needs to think make full on masala movie like south directors instead of half hearted ones. He still have better bet to get a hit out of Singham 3 and Golmaal 5 instead of new ventures.
Hey guys wat is this 2 percent random sampling testing at CST BOMBAY terminal? Do I and my Dad need to get tested here for RT Covid? Or will it be a double task since U will get texted in Bombay nonetheless?
I think if you take a test result (within 48 hours) from here, USA, they won’t ask you even if you’re one of those 2% since you have current result with you. Probably better to go with it instead of being unlucky and get chosen and than what if you do have covid?
Last year, I was among 2% when I landed at Bangalore airport (this year there was no testing) during Omicron. I was shepherded to the front of line. More time was taken by staff to write my address and other things. And they really poke your nose (second time while returning at a hospital).
ps – I didn’t receive any call so I assume, my results were negative.
ps1 – I was carrying negative result before boarding the flight.
#Drishyam2 stands tall in Weekend 6, despite multiple films in the marketplace… [Week 6] Fri 53 lacs, Sat 1.07 cr, Sun 1.66 cr. Total: ₹ 227.94 cr. #India biz. pic.twitter.com/HPaug4j5Gi
Monday Update: Avatar – The Way Of Water And Drishyam 2 Super Strong
Monday 26 December 2022 23.15 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
Avatar – The Way Of Water will have a huge second Monday as collections look set to be better than the Friday at around 12-13 crore nett. The film is recording collections better or in a similar range to Friday in most circuits.
This would mean that the film has collections close to 70 crore nett in the second week and with the holiday period on you cannot rule out a second week of 100 crore nett which is out of this world and will be a first Hollywood in India.
Avengers Endgame had collected around 76 crore nett in week two and that record will be smashed easily in just 5 days of the second week. This second Monday also gives it a shot at the 367 crore nett lifetime total of Avengers Endgame. Although it is a long way off it does now have a chance for the first time since it released last week.
Drishyam 2 has also seen fantastic collections on its sixth Monday as collections could finish 50-60% more than its sixth Friday. The film will now have an extraordinary sixth week which will be among the top five in history and maybe even top three.
The film is getting huge benefit of the failure of Cirkus and may even start doing better business than Cirkus next weekend. Cirkus has taken a hit on Monday as expected and collections will be down more than 50% and it may well be looking at collections in the 3 crore nett range and maybe even less.
Exclusive | 20 years of Kaante: Sanjay Gupta reveals how Amitabh Bachchan refused to abuse, his near-fatal accident
Released on December 20, 2002, Kaante acquired cult status over the years and is remembered for its style, dialogues and music. The film starred Amitabh Bachchan, Sanjay Dutt, Suniel Shetty and Kumar Gaurav. among others.
So, what’s the origins of Kaante?
The whole world thinks Kaante is Reservoir Dogs, no it isn’t. there are a few similarities in the second half of the film but the genesis of Kaante was the Tribhovandas Bhimji Zaveri & Sons Jewellers robbery case, which was later made into the film Special 26. Till today that’s unsolved. My idea was, what if they were six boys from Dagdi Chawl, who conduct the most successful heist in the history of India, go back to Dagdi Chawl which is suddenly surrounded by cops.
At what point did the Reservoir Dogs inspiration come in?
There was a producer from Los Angeles called Raju Patel. He wanted to do a Hindi film and suggested to do a film based over there, as he would organise everything. I told Sanju, ‘Ok, so the story could be that all these guys are based out of Los Angeles.’ That’s the time that more than Reservoir Dogs, I was inspired by The Usual Suspects—a group of strangers who meet in a lock up.
Kashmir Files and RRR (Hindi) are unilingual films catering to Hindi audiences alone. Why comparing a multilingual Avatar 2 with them? Either put up Avatar 2 English (or Hindi) only collections or consider RRR in all languages (>750 Cr net). Trade reporting is laughable nowadays and barely considers India’s multi lingual diversity while reporting numbers.
You can find many ways to separate the totals such as language, ticket price, 3d vs 2d, paid tickets by corporations and other entities vs public paying, footfall, etc…
End result should be, treat India as ONE.
RRR and many south films are released in USA in multiple languages (Tamil, telugu, hindi), everything is reported as one total.
And very conveniently the cost of production as well as screen count is ignored. Even in absolutes Avatar 2 is not finishing anywhere near KGF 2 & RRRs pan India total of 800 & 750+ respectively. And I doubt the makers are going to make substantial profits from global collections looking at the COP. No trade site from BOI to Hungama to Koimoi ever reports pan India all language totals for the likes of Bahubali, RRR & KGF (the exact reason why you know their Hindi version totals) while such privilege holds true for the Marvel’s & Avatar’s alone.
In fact, thanks to winter storms and a mixed word of mouth Avatar 2s domestic performance is well below expectation in NA and might finish below the likes of Wakanda Forever and Dr Strange 2s total of $400m+. Enough incentive for Lightstorm Ent & TSG to pause this outdated franchise right here.
I think its doing okay in USA. The second weekend came above the estimated 56mn at 64mn. MOnday was super strong and it should be above 425mn by Sunday EOD. After that is the harder part. It needs to get to atleast 600mn to have a good shot at the 2BN global BO Cameron said it needs.
India business is a blockbuster no?
“And very conveniently the cost of production as well as screen count is ignored”
Nothing is left out, I had “etc…” in it.
Yes, production, big director vs. small director, big stars vs small, ETC… There are countless way you can dissect it.
End result is, the TOTAL gets looked at, no matter how it was achieved.
It will be like saying Kohli scored century but since 80 runs came from a bowlers who are a batsman primarily and not a bowler, that will not be counted. In the end, the TOTAL matter, no matter how it was achieved.
Despite your ill wishes and bad weather, avatar put up solid numbers on sunday and monday in USA. Lets see how it does coming weekend. 1 BILLION will be reached WW. Not many movies can do that. Just because Shaan didn’t do business of Sholay, doesn’t mean it was a washout.
“Even in absolutes Avatar 2 is not finishing anywhere near KGF 2 & RRRs pan India total of 800 & 750+ respectively”
Yes, would have been nice if we can see a Hindi film in that list.
That’s an incorrect statement going in rounds. Cameron said that was in the 1st presentation to the studio heads and they were shocked but it was nowhere close to that. Secondly, as per some other articles, it goes into breakeven after 800 million, which it already has done it.
Secondly, (I posted above)Cameron says that part 3 is 95% shot and it’s been designed in such a way that it part 2 under performs heavily, they’ll wind up with part 3 and end with a trilogy OR else he has parts 4 & 5 to shoot in next 2 years together.
So, even ending with part 3 is also good idea and make only 4,5 after some 5-8 yrs break if there’s demand.
“Just because Shaan didn’t do business of Sholay, doesn’t mean it was a washout.” -Shaan wasn’t a franchise and yes, Shaan was classified as a huge underperformer by the trade in its initial run. It took re-runs for the film to break even. Either ways, Avatar 2 has fallen well short of expectation and being unable to match Dr Strange 2 kinda poor films in its domestic run is testimony to its underperformance. It was obviously never going to flop, that was a given even before release.
Not sure why you are saying it wont match Dr Strange. IMO it will beat that movie easily and most probably by Sunday EOD. Movies collect very well this period in the USA and even weekday behave like weekend
“Avatar 2 has fallen well short of expectation and being unable to match Dr Strange 2 kinda poor films in its domestic run is testimony to its underperformance”
No one said Avatar is being made for domestic market. It’s reach is world wide. Cameron would be just as happy if 1 billion is made just from USA or from Worldwide, end result is same for him.
This is true for 1st avatar, and a lot of other films, they collect huge globally, it doesn’t need to be blockbuster in USA alone.
Avatar 2 and 3 were shot together so this 300+ budget isn’t just for one movie, it’s for two. They’re making plenty of money on this and it’s not like it crashed, it’s still running good all over including India…
USA, Saturday was $15 million, Sunday was $25 million and Monday was $26 million. I won’t be shocked if Tuesday is close to $20 million. Tuesdays the ticket prices are cut in half in most US theatres but more audience coming in should put it at good total for Tuesday too.
So when a film falters in its primary domestic market (which is always the primary target audience for any industry), give the usual worldwide performance excuse like true SRK fanboys have been doing since the days of MNIK and Ra1. Anyhow the fact that its done $1B worldwide in itself is way too much for a movie as mediocre as this. Not that the first one was anything great but part 2 is a colossal misfire in every way apart from its visuals. As for the lack of Hindi films in the top, Dangal is still India’s highest global grosser for now while the footfall records of Awara, Sholay & Caravan cannot be broken even by the likes of Rajamouli just yet. A couple of poor calender years cannot tarnish an 8 decade old legacy of Hindi cinema.
“A couple of poor calender years cannot tarnish an 8 decade old legacy of Hindi cinema.”
Of course not, not at all but at the same time, first step of tackling any problem is realizing that there’s a problem. And there is problem of South and USA films making big bucks in Hindi market. Covid didn’t impact these movies. I don’t mean to sound that south/usa films shouldn’t be allowed to release or that i’m against those films but they are doing a damage to our own hindi films. Our film makers needs to realize this and come up with better products. 1 or 2 bad years can’t and will not erase glorious bollywood history but realize that there’s option for public now which wasn’t there before or it was at limited interest and availability. Now Avatar can open on as many screen as Hit maker Rohit Shetty film. That was not the case in 40s, 50s, 60s, 70s, etc… until past decade.
Hindi audience is beginning to latch on to south and usa films. There are big hindi films coming up in 2023 but i will guarantee you 50% of those big films will not have a clean release. they will be bombarded with boycott, etc… While south/usa films are enjoying clean up-beat release.
There is a problem and it needs to be addressed with all united. Film makers needs to get back to making good masala films instead many are making films with political tones and most of these film fail because people are fatigued by it.
How can you call it Vicharon ka yudh? If so, why did Godse shoot Gandhi. That no longer is battle of thoughts. Kuch bhi. Already, in TLBS movie, RKS made Gandhi accountable for Bhagat Singh’s death. Now, maybe Gandhi will take prominence and become equal to Gandhi as though both are of same stature and ideologies. As I said, Godse is current flavor, anything can happen.
Gandhi’s lack of intervention before Bhagat Singh’s sentence is seen by many as a lack of accountability, esp since Gandhi & Bhagat never saw eye to eye & had polar opposite ideologies. Although I doubt Gandhi’s intervention would have made a difference to Bhagat Singh’s untimate fate anyways. Gandhian philosophy of Dharna’s and fasts is a complete farce & a waste of time (amusing that a self proclaimed devout Hindu preached the exact opposite of Krishna’s philosophy) when dealing with tyrants but definitely serves a good purpose for giggles & bedtime entertainment via films like Lage Raho..
This film is based on Asgar Wajahat’s play. So don’t worry. BTW many people have already declared Gandhi as some sort of villan. Some on logic and some on WhatsApp University posts. So no problem.
Santoshi’s best films have been with Sunny. They complimented each other very well and brought the best out of each other.
Glad to learn that they are back to working again.
Damini & Khakee would rate as 2 of my favorite Santoshi films, followed by Ghatak, Bhagat Singh & Ghayal. Santoshi’s far more secure at hard hitting action films than goofy comedies like Andaz & Ajab ghazab.
Drishyam 2 is still performing very well in week 6. As per BOI, it may be at around 225cr by end of week 6.
It beats Brahmastra if it collects an additional 5cr after week 6, which looks like a real possibility now. Either way, it has performed way above expectations.
TKF, Drishyam 2 and BB2 have performed exceedingly well,
From Krish above: “26Mn Monday for Avatar was estimate, actual was 32mn. 6 mn more.”
So Sunday was $29 mil and Monday is $32 Mil, pretty impressive. Some analysts are changing tunes now, you can’t blame them because week 1 was an under performer. If it holds well over the new year weekend, it will be good.
Doctor Strange total is already beat and it will touch billion dollar mark before the new year weekend starts.
Avatar came in at around $24 Million for Tuesday. This is fantastic number but as i had mentioned the business picks up Tuesday due to almost half price tickets in most theatres.
I assume it may fall to around $15 Mil or lower tomorrow.
“Over the years, he has produced a plethora of films, including Bol Radha Bol (1992), Laadla (1994), Yamla Pagla Deewana (2011), Army School , Love Ke Liye Kuch Bhi Karega (2001), Dus (2005), Chal Mere Bhai (2001), Maha-Sangram (1990), Insaaf: The Final Justice (1997), Deewangi, Nayee Padosan (2003), Adharm (1992), Baaghi, Eena Meena Deeka, Tathastu, Tango.”
It’s possible, in USA, the Cinemark movie theatre chain already has it listed, just no show times yet. the movie is listed at almost 3 hours. I thought it was around 2 1/2 hours.
YRF doesn’t share their trailers with anyone from media, so all that is junk. They could have leaked trailer duration but none can see the trailer, that’s not possible.
Cirkus week 1 is just 30 cr, which shud have been the opening day figure. Will fold up at around 50 cr lifetime total. Disaster.
Avatar week 2 total in India is 290+ cr. Will cross 300 cr milestone on Saturday itself (31st Dec). Chances are there for touching 350 cr mark in its lifetime, but wont cross Endgame imo. Blockbuster.
Worldwide Avatar 2 has already touched 1B mark and will be chasing Maverick’s WW total by the end of its run. If it indeed does 1.5B+ lifetime, then part 3 and subsequent films will be justified.
Wakanda has crossed 800M worldwide and is another box office hit from Marvel.
Not sure what coming weekend will hold but Avatar is doing something special in USA.
Wednesday was again over $20 million ($20.4 mil). This is definitely going over Jurassic Park by end of this weekend and may beat Doctor Strange by end of week 3. It’s not getting anywhere close to Maverick in USA but will challenge top spot for 2022 WW collection.
As i said it will be above Dr Strange by Sunday EOD. This is how movies typically behave over christmas week. Spiderman did 56mn last year and Avatar 2 will probably do above 50m this weekend maybe even more
Well they might as well release the next 2 snoozefests over Christmas weekend else they run the risk of finishing outside the yearly top 5 at the NA box office.
As the audience, we know right off the bat that Ryan’s theory is correct, and as such, the pacing can drag a bit while waiting for the script to fill the political gaps and build out the necessary characters to carry out the season to its expected and eventual conclusion.
However, it remains a fun watch for history buffs or fans of the spy genre. In essence, it’s the Tom Clancy brand at its best, which is exactly what you want if you’ve been watching the show from the start.
Without spoiling how the third season plays out, the finale does do justice by vindicating Ryan, the end ultimately justifying his means, and setting up for the fourth and final season, which was confirmed by Amazon Prime Video in May 2022.
Nothing would ever top season 1 but season 3 is a far crisper & edgy successor to a dull & underwhelming S2. The fact that we’re witnessing a real world Russian aggression scenario that’s almost carbon copy only makes it worthier. Undoubtedly the small screen version of Bond and finally an espionage series the Americans have managed to ace.
Posted a comment and link in sports thread. Shocking that Rishabh Pant crashed his car and his car got burnt and he’s injured pretty bad. Hope no long term injuries.
Avatar having a SOLID day 15, we’re not talking about few lacs or Cr, it’s heading towards 10 Cr for 3rd Friday. It will touch 300 Cr by end of Friday.
As the year draws to a close, it turns out that only 11 films worked at the box-office. The 11 successful films of 2022 are: Gangubai Kathiawadi, The Kashmir Files, RRR (dubbed), K.G.F. Chaper 2 (dubbed), Doctor Strange In The Multiverse Of Madness (dubbed), Bhool Bhulaiyaa 2, Karthikeya 2 (dubbed), Brahmastra: Part One – Shiva, Kantara (dubbed), Drishyam 2 and Avatar: The Way Of Water (dubbed). As the list reveals, only five of the aforementioned eleven films are made in Hindi, the others being dubbed versions of either regional Indian films or Hollywood films. Interestingly, five of the said 11 films are sequels, all of them being the second parts of earlier hits. The sequels are K.G.F. Chaper 2, Bhool Bhulaiyaa 2, Karthikeya 2, Drishyam 2 and Avatar: The Way Of Life. Again, out of this list of five sequels, only two are Hindi films!
As I watched (and rewatched) the teaser of Nolan’s next Oppenheimer, one cannot but help noticing the master film maker’s return to character oriented cinema, a brand of story telling that has made him one of the finest film makers of contemporary times. Not that films like Interstellar, Dunkirk and Tenet were mediocre by any yardstick (such is the genius of Nolan that even his underwhelming films are perhaps few of the decade’s best!) but the entire idea of building a plot around the central protagonist(s) is something Nolan seemed to have forsaken in exchange for larger than life concepts where characters fitted in as nothing more than pawns.
Considering films like Memento, Insomnia, The Prestige, Batman Begins, The Dark Knight and Inception, these are stories weaved around a set of characters and their obsessions and eccentricities that make the central characters so intriguing and fascinating that as a viewer one cannot help but stay invested in their (mis)adventures. Back home when we refer to stuff like the commercial masala cinema, they tend to follow the same template of a larger than life protagonist facing off against an equally larger than life & menacing adversary (from the times of Sholay and Deewaar right until stuff like War, RRR and KGF).
With films like The Dark Knight Rises, Interstellar, Dunkirk and Tenet, Nolan the film maker seemed to have shortchanged his characters for a conceptual brand of story telling where the entire hypothesis appears to be the main protagonist with the characters fitting in like puppets as per the maker’s vision & convenience (think films like 83, Pink and Zindagi na milegi dobara back home). With Oppenheimer being a passive biopic of Robert J Oppenheimer the physicist, we can hope to witness the character building exercise from Nolan yet again (perhaps for the first time since Cobb’s Inception) which perhaps makes this film as one of the most anticipated of 2023. The fact that the leading man is being portrayed by the versatile Cillian Murphy only makes it better.
Pathan has really made a mark and that too worldwide. Imagine this film with some other actor and creating this much of buzz? Never possible and that’s the reason Srk is ahead of all when it comes to stardom.
I’ve also noticed that word of mouth affects his films more than the other stars. Many of SRK films have lately taken decent openings but crash immediately if they aren’t good. The same doesn’t hold true for Salman/Akshay/Ajay films, they seem to get away with making mediocre stuff.
SATYAMSHOT 
December 22, 2022 at 1:24 AM
https://filminformation.com/featured/you-asked-it-16-december-2022/
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December 22, 2022 at 3:51 AM
Avatar2 looks like heading towards a 190cr plus first week. Looks on course to beat TKF and RRR (hindi).
Circus looks like the next disaster, unfortunately.
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December 22, 2022 at 3:53 AM
Avatar 2 has done exceedingly well in India in week one. 190+ cr in 7 days is great. Hollywood releases usually dont do that well in second weekend and 80% drops are common. I think Avatar 2 may hold somewhat better than that. I would expect it to do at least 30 cr over second weekend (8+10+12). Anything more would be a bonus. Worldwide also the movie is faring below expectations; but may hold well over the holiday period.
I saw the film yesterday. A tedious, terrible borefest. Didnt mind the first film so much. From what I remember it was an enjoyable experience in theaters. But not so much this time.
Hype will take it to 1-1.2B worldwide in the final tally and will be a money-maker. But not a record blockbuster like other Cameron films. This is his weakest film in decades.
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December 22, 2022 at 4:13 AM
Ever since it came out in the open that the cost of Avatar 2 is $400M, i have been expecting a Brahmastra like scenario where box office collections wont be bad but the movie overall wont be much profitable. And the mixed reactions will hurt the prospects of the next part in the series. Cameron shud have moved on to other projects instead of beating around Avatar imo. Even Battle Alita was a better film than this.
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December 22, 2022 at 4:38 AM
Quite surprised by Cameron’s misfire here. 3hrs plus is too long nowadays for Indian films so Avatar 2 makes it a bit of a cock up.
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December 22, 2022 at 5:14 AM
It could have been easily edited into a 2hr movie as nothing much happens most of the time. But Cameron is in over-indulgent mode here. It seems like he took the first avatar success too much into his head to look at the sequel any objectively. I wonder why Studio execs at Disney didnt have much of a say here. I guess either Cameron’s reputation was too awe-inspiring or he is adept at keeping studio interventions away from his work.
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December 22, 2022 at 5:25 AM
The wannabe vibe is so evident in SRK’s new song that it’s unintentionally funny. Trying so goddamn hard
This is probably gonna make viewers laugh in the theatre. Seriously, no one ever thought this was gonna misfire?
Not watching this unless the reviews are good.
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December 22, 2022 at 5:36 AM
Even I am skipping Cirkus and Pathaan. Not sure of these 2 movies. There seems to be a lot of desperation from both Srk and Deepika’s end to make a comeback in Pathaan. And YRF is just being YRF, which obviously is not good.
On the other hand, Shetty seems over-confident with a poor product. Cirkus may be a rare flop from him. At best it will be an average grosser like Dilwale was.
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December 22, 2022 at 5:45 AM
The trailer was itself lacklustre for Cirkus. At least that was pretty good for Pathaan.
If Cirkus works, it will be only because of RS. And Given his track record of mediocre films, I assume this one won’t be any different.
God save Pathaan. They’re raising the WTFery bar with every subsequent song. I have a feeling this will be done and dusted before the first day is even over.
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December 22, 2022 at 7:40 AM
TOH again for YRK?
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December 22, 2022 at 9:28 AM
Maybe that’s why srk went to Mecca and Hindu mandir makes sense now
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December 22, 2022 at 2:45 PM
The trailer for CIRCUS was a huge insult to Shakespeare and Gulzar, Sanjeev, Devan Verma et. al., Bad, bad trailer.
I am not sure about Pathaan 2nd song which people r unhappy with: Would watch and comment. However, I am still confident that the film will work.
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December 22, 2022 at 10:10 AM
Obviously anything can misfire. Basically it’s a script written for action star and then put SRK into it. That’s the ‘newness” part. I agree that song is average and badly pictures but don’t see any issue with Srk dancing. That’s not an issue at all. All action movies have a dancing number with hero dancing. The reason movie can dissapoint is they are delivering average songs but then Vishal -Shekhar are done now. Story and action are different domains, let’s see how much That’s impacted. Action will be fine if they hired foreign action directors, rest all is story should be above average.
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December 22, 2022 at 5:50 AM
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December 22, 2022 at 5:15 PM
Rogue nation…still continues
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December 23, 2022 at 9:29 AM
Well.. Krishna did predict the Kali Yug 5000 years ago with 2 rotten pieces of shit becoming global financial super powers at loggerheads, one which believes in bonded slave labour and another that’s purely surviving on immigrants **edited**. So yea, no surprises at the Chinese virus’s reoccurence.
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December 22, 2022 at 7:17 AM
Favourite movies of 2022 :
Major : 9/10
Drishyam 2 : 8/10
Vikram Vedha : 8/10
777 Charlie : 7/10
The Kashmir Files : 7/10
Gangubai Kathiawadi : 7/10
Vikram Hitlist : 7/10
Jhund : 7/10
RRR : 7/10
KGF 2 : 7/10
Others : PS1, Bhediya, Runway 34, Karthikeya 2
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December 22, 2022 at 1:00 PM
Very glad to see ‘Jhund’ here. It was well-made movie, but lost in the heap of bigger movies of the year.
PS:Vasudev menon’s ”Vendhu Thanindhathu Kaadu” is one the good movies of this year too to me.
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December 22, 2022 at 2:48 PM
Watched VTK. For the first time, I liked GVM after Kamal’s serial murderers’ movie. I hate that so-called actor Simbaa or whatever he is known as. But he did a good job here. Kudos. A good, lyrical film with underpinnings of NAYAKAN and AGNEEPATH. Definitely watchable, and ARR’s score is magnanimous…
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December 26, 2022 at 12:19 PM
Simbu in the right hands/right role is a good talent. He is also multi faceted (music, lyrics, directs, writes etc) which makes him go over the top and try to do monkey tricks causing most people to hate him. I usually avoid his films as well, but his last two are pretty solid (Maanadu a time travel masala film which is extremely fun watch with a terrific SJ Suryah as villain) and VTV.
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December 22, 2022 at 6:06 PM
A highly underrated film yes. Much more relatable to Maharashtra I suppose. And as wonderful films as they are, I do hope the Indian film industry doesn’t have to make films like Major, Shershah and Uri again.
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December 22, 2022 at 6:09 PM
Most overrated of the year -Kantara
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December 26, 2022 at 12:32 PM
Interesting list, have not seen a few in here. Did not like RRR or KGF2 much and prefer Kantara over both. I saw it in theater in Kanada before it became big or was even posted on here so the hype did not impact my views. As a standard masala output it worked well for me as it has some great moments and I do believe the last 15 mins did the trick, the audience were left hypnotized and in a daze and that is how the word of mouth spread. I do agree it is overated, has some crass stuff in there (which unfortunately was a realistic portryal of Indian youth imho) and I was surprised at the crazy hyperbolic reactions to Kantara a month after I watched it! I would rate 777 Charlie significantly higher and is possibly my best film last year (need to think of my list actually). I also loved Minnal Murali in Malayalam although that came in 2021. Major was good and I always liked Advi Sesh. His recent Hit 2 is decent well made tight thriller, check it out if you like his work.
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December 22, 2022 at 8:13 AM
This isn’t the first time SRK has made a fool of himself. Tongue in cheek/goofy or not, this was a rather embarrassing turn for him.
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December 22, 2022 at 10:05 AM
You mean the song or the show? Song was fine for its time.
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December 22, 2022 at 12:33 PM
The song. Cringeworthy.
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December 22, 2022 at 8:37 PM
Don’t see any issue with the song unless you have some notion that game show shouldn’t be promoted this way. Promotion can done by anyway and that era was making promotional videos. Heck, Srk even made for KKR team.
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December 22, 2022 at 11:21 AM
From BOI’s latest commentary it looks like Cirkus opening will be around 10 cr only. Avatar 2’s thursday is 13.5 cr as per sacnilk, so it can do 10 cr tomorrow too.
Will be a shame if both Cirkus and Avatar 2 both do 10 cr tomorrow.
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December 22, 2022 at 12:02 PM
People are hoping they get such a clean slate for release and here we have SOLO release in Circus for all Christmas and New Year holidays and then further till Jan 25th, like a free month and yet it Circus doesn’t do well, it’ll be biggest flop IMO. You don’t get such free release dates ever! Pathaan should have released this time instead.
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December 22, 2022 at 12:23 PM
If Cirkus fails as the advance is indicating, Avatar 2 may as well take advantage of the holidays and beat Brahmastra’s 257 cr total in India. IF it sustains v well over next 2 weeks it can even challenge RRR’s 274 cr hindi total.
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December 22, 2022 at 12:57 PM
RRR snubbed at the Oscar nominations
https://www.rediff.com/movies/report/no-rrr-but-chhello-show-on-oscar-list/20221222.htm
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December 22, 2022 at 4:26 PM
No reviews of Cirkus yet from UAE, usually you hear something by now.
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December 22, 2022 at 4:35 PM
Indian premiere shows are done and it’s mixed.
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December 22, 2022 at 5:22 PM
I just saw couple videos on youtube where they are saying it’s kind of golmaal, just not that funny.
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December 22, 2022 at 5:39 PM
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December 22, 2022 at 5:06 PM
Advance is so low..10 crores would be lucky for Circus. It’s lower than Thank God and Raksha Bandhan.
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December 22, 2022 at 5:21 PM
Something is not right, how can this be? Shetty film, 10 days holidays coming up, lots of known faces in the film.
I still have hope on spot booking.
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December 22, 2022 at 8:40 PM
10 is a stretch. 7 crs maybe. Basically completely dependent on spot bookings so cant predict. Reviews seem poor too
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December 22, 2022 at 8:48 PM
As I said earlier….Shetty is giving Sajid Khan vibes..and now time to deliver a flop. Sooryavanshi’s real feedback and Ranveer’s poor form adds to his woes.
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December 22, 2022 at 9:17 PM
The lack of advance is a shocker nevertheless. The movie in current state can open even less than 5 crs which would be shocking. Movie business has become unpredictable post covid. Movie we expect to open around 20 crs have advance of a opening of 5 crs.
We all expect pathaan to open 35crs up but really there is no saying till advance opens honestly
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December 22, 2022 at 11:37 PM
Ranveer will have 2 flops on back to back Christmas releases. In between he also delivered a jordaar disaster in Jayeshbhai.
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December 22, 2022 at 5:13 PM
Haven’t seen A2. It looks like it’s a massive failure in the US while profiting outside of continental USA. Even the US citizens are now calling out for lack of writing/quality it seems!!
There are conflicting statements…so one’s not sure…
https://variety.com/2022/film/box-office/avatar-the-way-of-water-uk-box-office-1235467115/
BTW, I did expect weak writing and high CGI…wonder why people are surprised
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December 22, 2022 at 5:19 PM
Part 1 wasn’t great writing either but it moved fast. In this one it just drags and is over 3 hours. they could easily cut it down to 2 1/2 hours and it would have been fine and hold interest.
I also don’t think the CGI is all that great than part 1.
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December 22, 2022 at 6:01 PM
Quite surprised overall. Seems like a skip for me – it was my most awaited film of 2022 but I have lost all energy. I rather watch repeats of WC final at the moment!!!
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December 22, 2022 at 8:44 PM
I may still try to watch it. Cameron says that part 3 is 95% shot and it’s been designed in such a way that it part 2 under performs heavily, they’ll wind up with part 3 and end with a trilogy OR else he has parts 4 & 5 to shoot in next 2 years together.
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December 22, 2022 at 6:36 PM
A complete snoozefest with a wafer thin plot from a film maker well past his prime. Even contemplating a part 3 is ridiculous!
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December 22, 2022 at 9:57 PM
Last night I had a wonderful dream of a cricket match played between SS members.
AnJo, Shivaay, Naveen, and Rocky were in one team and Z, Master, and Marcus were in the other. Krish was the common batsman between them.
Munna was the umpire, and I was the third umpire.
Z, Master, and Marcus team appealed for a run out and the decision went to me, i.e. the third umpire. I mistakenly got Shivaay out even when he was well within the crease. An argument erupted between both the teams on the field. But they ended up fighting on whether AB is the greatest actor of all time or not. 30 minutes later, the argument got political.
Munna tried to defuse the tension but gave up after a while and returned to the stands to have cold beer.
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December 22, 2022 at 11:26 PM
Chai instead of cold beer!
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December 22, 2022 at 11:55 PM
Sab ek hi hai
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December 23, 2022 at 12:33 AM
3rd umpire bika hua hai… it was clean out!
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December 23, 2022 at 7:50 AM
you spending a lot of time on SS that you dream about the members here. Get a life outside SS as well. 🙂
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December 24, 2022 at 4:28 AM
No I was reading comments on SS before I went to sleep.
I dreamt about you too.
You were the cheerleader and match expert rolled into one
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December 23, 2022 at 2:12 AM
Cirkus is getting bad reviews, only few liking. Naveen liked it and gave 3/5.
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December 23, 2022 at 7:52 AM
Naveen liked Bachchan Pandey as well … anything that stars Akshay or Ranvir, or doesn’t star them, Naveen is unreliable
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December 23, 2022 at 8:33 AM
If you see his recent comments it’s more like Naveen can’t be trusted for “KHAN” and non-khan movies, so basically not reliable at all 🙂
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December 23, 2022 at 5:46 AM
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December 23, 2022 at 5:48 AM
Set to go past Brahmastra (Hindi) now that Circus has tanked 💥
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December 23, 2022 at 7:12 AM
Disappointed by Cirkus. Rohit is go to guy for time pass film, too bad it looks like a misfire.
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December 23, 2022 at 8:35 AM
If i’m YRF, i would go into promotion overdrive and come on December 30th.
I think Cirkus will be done by then.
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December 23, 2022 at 8:45 AM
Visiting INDIA after 8 long years and will be in Bombay from Dec 9 to Jan 5:Tgen my native in Maga and then Bangalore and Mangalore followed by Chandigarh. Would love to meet folks from SS and have films ki bat and chai pe charcha!!!
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December 23, 2022 at 9:42 AM
Awesome, have fun, eat a lot.
I hope to go early August.
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December 23, 2022 at 9:44 AM
When are you visiting Bangalore?
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December 23, 2022 at 12:59 PM
Come to Dehi
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December 23, 2022 at 1:05 PM
Maga kya hain? Maghadeera?
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December 23, 2022 at 2:46 PM
Hope you have a good time with friends and family!
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December 23, 2022 at 3:05 PM
Looks like entering Modi’s India first time. 8 yrs is enough time to notice infrastructure changes, advances and people’s attitudes. Have open chai pe charchas including and there will be no moderation (by munna or even otherwise)! 🙂
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December 23, 2022 at 9:24 PM
Thanks guys for the wishes.
Munna: Yes, all kids and cousins grown up and smarter.
Z: Thanks. Am taking it slow, will be there for at least 2.5 months.
Tony: Thanks for the invite. Will try my best to make it to Delhi from Chandigarh.
Shivaay: Maybe it will be end of Jan or mid of February. Will be good to meetup.
Master: LOL yes, expecting culture shock and learning new things, but good to see a resurgent India.
Will be watching Avatar in Bombay! And hope there are some single screens left in Bombay or/and Bangalore to enjoy chai/samosa at reasonable prices during the interval…
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December 23, 2022 at 9:26 PM
Sorry Juggie my bad. I was saying Maharashtra…iphone…
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December 23, 2022 at 10:03 PM
Good to hear Anjo, Enjoy your time in India.
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December 23, 2022 at 11:51 PM
Have a good time Anjo in Bharat. While in namma Bengaluru , try to catch a movie in ‘Rex’ Theater..read it is completely renovated. Only a few single screens at Majestic now and few around Malleswaram .If you arr going after 8 years you will need a paytm/google pay to make to make your life easy.
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December 24, 2022 at 3:12 AM
Rex is taken over by PVR now and is a multiplex. The entire complex is a mall now. Fame Shankarnag and Cauvery theater are only authentic single screens left in urban Bangalore as of now.
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December 26, 2022 at 2:19 AM
That’s right ‘Cauvery’ . ‘Sampige’, ‘Savitha’ theatres at Malleswaram are still operating too. Not sure how it is maintained these days. Had watched many movies there.
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December 24, 2022 at 3:13 AM
Do let me know..
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December 23, 2022 at 9:56 AM
Folks are angry…
https://twitter.com/seeuatthemovie/status/1606214219132698625?t=B6yehEHmefsQ6Q5Uxe1ItQ&s=19
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December 23, 2022 at 9:59 AM
Ranveer Singh has 1 film in his kitty – Karan Johar’s next with Alia Bhatt and chance to get a hit movie. Rohit Shetty has Singham 3 and it’ll also have Akshay and Ranveer along with Ajay. Both can get hits there as well. Rohit Shetty should also give Golmaal 5 some more break and do masala movies.
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December 23, 2022 at 12:22 PM
North vs South debate
https://twitter.com/AkshaysWrestler/status/1605582309029134336
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December 23, 2022 at 12:29 PM
Krish was spot on…
Report are Cirkus around 8 Cr, this is truly shocking.
Avatar is around 12 Cr, decent hold.
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December 23, 2022 at 1:35 PM
Aur kya compliment chahiye aapko??
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December 23, 2022 at 3:00 PM
.. and nobody, even rohit shetty doesn’t know who this anonymous legend is. read the comments on twitter
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December 23, 2022 at 3:03 PM
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December 23, 2022 at 10:04 PM
Very sad about Cirkus. Shows how hard it is to predict a movies fate till advance opens.
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December 24, 2022 at 12:20 AM
The trailer and hype is the main thing. The trailer killed the movie and there was not a single laugh. Also, Rohit’s over confidence that it’s solo Christmas release..just 3 weeks is more than enough for all 100% promotion. Nothing about the movie till December starting and you expect everyone is aware about the movie in 3 weeks flat.
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December 23, 2022 at 2:49 PM
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December 23, 2022 at 3:10 PM
Cirkus 1st day 7 crores
Avatar 8th day 14 crores.
Weekend advance increasing for Avatar 2 and decreasing for Cirkus.
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December 23, 2022 at 3:26 PM
Komal’s review of Cirkus
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December 23, 2022 at 3:32 PM
for a moment I thought he said “it is awesome”
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December 23, 2022 at 8:34 PM
Facts
https://twitter.com/realm_of_kapoor/status/1606200474050478080?t=XIviwpiC0gWJ-ikeGzFNZA&s=19
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December 23, 2022 at 8:39 PM
Cirkus <<<< Humshakals
Cirkus <<<< Humshakals
Cirkus <<<< Humshakals
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December 23, 2022 at 8:43 PM
If anyone need a good movie to watch, you should watch LOVE TODAY On Netflix. Such a low budget but thoroughly entertaining and completely dependent on unique script and sharp direction makes this a great watch. 2nd film of director Pradeep who also launched himself as leading hero with this movie and yet gave very good performance. Highly recommended.
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December 23, 2022 at 10:00 PM
Completely agree. It will probably see a hindi remake too. Made over 60 crs on a negligible budget
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December 24, 2022 at 2:54 PM
Now, Love Today has been released in 4 languages on Netflix. I saw in original kannada version. Good for folks who didn’t watch it yet and have options now.
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December 25, 2022 at 5:49 PM
Original is Tamil
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December 25, 2022 at 9:25 PM
Got it, thanks.
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December 26, 2022 at 12:23 PM
Pradeep’s first film Comali (Jayam Ravi of PS-1 fame) is actually an interesting premise but falters a bit in execution and content overall. Check it out if you can.
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December 24, 2022 at 3:32 AM
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December 24, 2022 at 3:40 AM
Often think of this idiom when I hear imbecile criticism of Bachchan saab, Sachin sir, Chris Nolan & ilk (;
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December 24, 2022 at 5:54 AM
Rohit Shetty will bounce back, for sure. Singham 3 and the next Golmaal are going to work, no doubt about that.
For Ranveer, it is tougher. He will need someone like SLB to back him again. The last 3 flops will have hurt his prospects considerably. With Cirkus flopping, there goes the chance of any Simmba 2 from materialising. Shetty dropped SRK as soon as Dilwale underperformed and moved on to new pastures and returned to the Devgan camp in the process.
When you open a film at 2cr (JJ), it puts into question your fans following. The main problem for Ranveer is that his major few successes have been attributed to SLB and Rohit Shetty. Even if Cirkus was working, everyone knows that the credit would be going to RS.
Right now, only someone like SLB or maybe Karan Johar may pull him out of the doldrums. He may get bit role in Singham 3, but if I were to bet, that may be as far as he can get with any future project with RS.
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December 24, 2022 at 6:41 AM
Which is quite sad since Ranveer is a supremely talented performer and a genuine star actor rolled into one. Far superior to his contemporaries like playboys Ranbir & Shahid in my opinion.
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December 24, 2022 at 7:14 AM
Cirkus day 2 is trending lower than day 1, this is shocking. I hope it picks up big time Christmas Day.
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December 24, 2022 at 7:16 AM
Watched Jai Bhim (in Hindi) last night on Amazon.
Good movie but though to watch.
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December 24, 2022 at 7:19 AM
Rohit Shetty has delivered a flop/disaster after Sunday back in 2008. This wont hurt him as he will get back to Devgn camp and do franchise films in Singham 3 and Golmaal 5 next. Dilwale may have underperformed, but it was still a average/below avg fare at box office.
Ranveer is indeed in a tight spot now and a lot will depend on KJO film with Aliya. Ranbir is in a lot better position after Brahmastra success and with a decent line-up of films in 2023.
Bollywood is ending its disastrous year with yet another disaster in Cirkus. And with its massive underperformance another third class film from Hollywood is now going to do 300 cr or so. This year will be remembered as the year where southern (KGF2, RRR) and hollywood (Avatar 2) films beat the crap out of bollywood films.
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December 24, 2022 at 7:51 AM
All eyes on Pathaan now, Bollywood needs this movie to do well, once the trailer comes out along with advance booking opens we will get an idea of the opening anything is possible but I expect pathaan to open big.
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December 24, 2022 at 8:00 AM
As the new Covid variant strikes the world, I’m assuming cases are gonna rise in India in the next one month. Either Pathaan’s release will be delayed or its collections will be affected. Doesn’t spell good news for the makers and actors after the backlash from the two songs
This is sad!
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December 24, 2022 at 9:10 AM
Licorice pizza ki image change kar do please. After Night Vision in Talaash, this is the second image that haints me every time I log on to SS
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December 24, 2022 at 2:00 PM
Don’t know auteur kind of cinema..so difficult to find one which I have seen!
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December 25, 2022 at 10:14 AM
Thanks for putting up Pulp Fiction! I wouldn’t mind it staying forever!
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December 24, 2022 at 9:11 AM
Don’t know why the postponed this movie fearing Curkus. They needed just few screens and should have been ideal for this week.
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December 24, 2022 at 9:38 AM
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December 24, 2022 at 10:36 AM
Poor girl!
Wish her family the strength to bear this loss. Tragic!
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December 24, 2022 at 10:51 AM
Merry Christmas everyone
Happy holidays and enjoy the season
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December 24, 2022 at 1:38 PM
Why shock waves headlines missing??
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December 24, 2022 at 10:37 PM
This one..
https://twitter.com/SimonMinter7_/status/1606565495570051077?t=IeKdnMm8d3x70VgD5sURsw&s=19
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December 25, 2022 at 3:32 AM
Taran finally uses the expected term with pressure from everyone, Lol.
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December 25, 2022 at 6:05 AM
No growth on Sunday either, what a waste of Christmas. MONUMENTAL DISASTER!
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December 24, 2022 at 3:02 PM
Avatar – The Way Of Water Is A BLOCKBUSTER
Avatar – The Way Of Water is a BLOCBUSTER and heading for the 300 crore nett plus mark as it collects a huge 12 crore nett on its second Friday taking its overall total to over 200 crore nett. The film continues with insane collections in South as it contributes 50% of the all India collections on the second Friday.
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December 24, 2022 at 3:02 PM
300 crores for 3 hour movie is fantastic which is difficult even for Bollywood in today’s times.
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December 25, 2022 at 6:09 AM
Sacnilk is tracking 25 cr For Avatar 2 today to wish Merry Christmas to Bollywood! Almost 60 cr second weekend for a weak hollywood film. That is a record 55% fall for any hollywood film in India?
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December 24, 2022 at 3:06 PM
Avatar 2 week 1 collection:
English -101 Cr+
Hindi -60 Cr+
Telugu -18 Cr+
Rest -10 Cr+
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December 24, 2022 at 3:35 PM
“What makes Mukhbir a gripping watch as well as a pleasant one is the way Delhi of the 60s has been brought alive. The vintage cars and scooters look pretty on one side, and the infusion of ghazals in the plot accentuates the visual appeal on the other. Also, what comes as a huge surprise is when a short and straightforward, then Prime Minister Lal Bahadur Shastri (1964-1966), says, “Gentleman, Kashmir may be a dream for Pakistan but I want Lahore for real.” Had the series released in a theatre, whistles and claps were definitely guaranteed. India taking a lead in proving that non-violence cannot be misinterpreted as cowardice, that is something the Indian audience has hardly ever seen being realised on screen. Not all from the current generation are aware of India actually crossing the line of control to capture Lahore in September, 1965.”
https://www.hindustantimes.com/entertainment/web-series/mukhbir-the-story-of-a-spy-review-zain-khan-durrani-is-as-good-as-raazi-s-alia-bhatt-101668217678951.html
An absolutely brilliantly written, well enacted and taut web series that brings alive the stories of real life spies & gives us more than a sneek peek into the brutal world of espionage. Mukhbir is an absolute masterpiece that’d leave you proud as an Indian and in awe of the sacrifices and contributions of our unsung soldiers who’ve been instrumental in resisting the detestible attempts of the US backed Pakistani ISI on Indian soil (the Kashmir fantasy -an epic failure for uncle Sam & their lacky ISI dogs for almost 6 decades now!) Kudos to Shivam Nair & Zee5.
8/10
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December 24, 2022 at 10:17 PM
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December 25, 2022 at 12:24 AM
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December 25, 2022 at 12:58 PM
The above clip explains a lot why certain section of people related to Film Industry are rejoicing the debacle of Cirkus .
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December 25, 2022 at 12:59 PM
The bindi wali woke aunty is so so typical …..you know what I mean !!
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December 25, 2022 at 9:26 AM
Avatar 2 is truly rocking in India.
I still believe that Bollywood will comeback big in 2023.
2022 was off year due to covid, but lets not hide away from the fact that going forward, south films along with films from USA will score big every year in Hindi market.
South and USA will enjoy boycott free release while our own hindi audience/media will be busy pulling down hindi films for one reason or another (mainly due to religion/politics) and in that process, outsider (south/USA) will enjoy success.
You can see pathaan post to get a clear picture. As pathaan release gets closer, you can count on the usuals to go in overdrive with pulling down the film.
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December 25, 2022 at 1:39 PM
Re-while our own hindi audience/media will be busy pulling down hindi films for one reason or another (mainly due to religion/politics)
You can see pathaan post to get a clear picture. As pathaan release gets closer, you can count on the usuals to go in overdrive with pulling down the film.
Coming from someone who is constantly belittling Bharat , it is a bit rich .
So he can say whatever , and rejoinder will be deleted ?
WTF ????????
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December 25, 2022 at 9:28 AM
Cirkus started off today little better, hopefully it can keep a stable trend for next few days.
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December 25, 2022 at 12:07 PM
21 MEGA-FLOPS of 2022!
Jhund
Bachchhan Paandey
Attack – Part I
Jersey
Runway 34
Heropanti 2
Jayeshbhai Jordaar
Dhaakad
Anek
Samrat Prithviraj
Shamshera
Ek Villain Returns
Raksha Bandhan
Laal Singh Chaddha
Vikram Vedha
Goodbye
Doctor G
Ram Setu
Thank God
An Action Hero
Cirkus
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December 25, 2022 at 12:09 PM
In comparison only 5 films from Bollywood actually worked at the box office!
Gangubai Kathiawadi – SEMIHIT
The Kashmir Files – BLOCKBUSTER
Bhool Bhulaiyaa 2 – BLOCKBUSTER
Brahmastra – Part One: Shiva – SEMIHIT
Drishyam 2 – BLOCKBUSTER
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December 25, 2022 at 12:15 PM
1 Hit for every 4 Disasters!
Wah Bollywood, Happy New Year!
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December 25, 2022 at 11:37 PM
One thing i am unable to understand why Rohit Shetty went to PR excercise overdrive. And the strange part is that LW and RW twitter celebs are doing PR tweet for him. The tweets are so in your face that everyone can understand that they are Paid tweets. Don’t know why so much insecurity in Rohit Shetty’s part? He is not even an actor.
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December 26, 2022 at 12:31 AM
Rohit Shetty is huge director, if not the biggest director of Bollywood, for the brand value and audience. Most of them accept it without any issue but the issue arises if he himself starts saying that. Even after the tremendous effort in opening theaters and holding off Sooryavanshi, Rohit never claimed fame but this time around it was very different and it was many who noticed the difference. I mean the whole interviews were just how Rohit Shetty is master film maker and his connect. Bollywood Hungama’s interview was like, let’s not talk all about movie…let’s just ask individually everyone what we’re you doing when you received Rohit’s Cirkus movie offer and what was your reaction? Khilnani said, Rohit Shetty can pick anyone from the industry and cast them in his movie, so how hard is the process like whom to give chance now or whom to select now. Everyone went on and on that they couldn’t believe that they got offered Cirkus and whole interview was about Rohit Shetty as some sort of God and not a film maker.
Either ways, Rohit Shetty is intelligent and he’ll be back right away and also change his attitude. Ranveer Singh will be impacted but so far everyone is just calling out Rohit Shetty for Cirkus’s flop. Next is Singham 3 and Golmaal 5 and both will be huge blockbusters as expected.
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December 26, 2022 at 2:03 AM
One more point which Rohit said that most of the film makers are unable to understand audience’s taste post pandemic. He’s referring to Sooryavanshi but actually that was a movie about to be released pre-pandemic and his first real test post pandemic movie is actually Cirkus. Rohit also failed at same which he’s commenting other film makers are failing.
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December 26, 2022 at 2:09 AM
Here..
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December 25, 2022 at 1:00 PM
This 2.2 minutes clip should be watched by everyone in Bollywood .
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December 25, 2022 at 1:21 PM
What more do you expect when disgusting C grade content like Mirzapur & Sacred Games gets far more views than genuinely solid brilliant shows like Mukhbir & Suzhal.
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December 25, 2022 at 10:48 PM
If we want rapes to not happen in society, we require an efficient security system, an effective police force, and a change in mindsets.
That’s all there is to it.
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December 26, 2022 at 1:25 AM
One cop per million people and a judge per 2.1
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December 26, 2022 at 2:11 AM
Nice to see you back Rocky.
Great Share. Completely agree, vey limited choice to see any Indian OTT series with the family.
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December 25, 2022 at 1:40 PM
Things will go to trash if you keep talking about each other or spam the forum. There are too many pros and against things about anything on social media, everything doesn’t need to show up here. Opinion on topics (acerbic or mild) are okay if language is acceptable.
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December 25, 2022 at 2:05 PM
Avataar 2 goes berserk on day 10, heading towards 25 to 26 Cr.
https://www.addatoday.com/2022/12/avatar-2-goes-berserk-on-2nd-sunday.html
Imagine if the maker had kept the movie run time to 2.5 hours which would have made the movie tight and crisp. Would have helped box office big time.
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December 25, 2022 at 11:30 PM
Avatar 2 at 223cr on Saturday has gone past Drishyam 2 (at around 220cr) and was practically on par with Brahmastra (230cr). Sunday may have seen it leapfrog TKF as well and comfortably go above the 250cr mark. RRR (hindi) will be crossed during this week.
It is going to go past the 300cr mark and collect much beyond for sure, with the festive period extending its run. Only KGF 2 (hindi) will remain unbeaten.
Excellent run and trending. Not sure we are going to see collections like these again during the next few months.
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December 26, 2022 at 7:28 AM
We will not, Pathaan, etc will not earn like this.
Movie needs to have a clean, boycott free release to do good. Of course the movie itself has to be good too but it doesn’t help when there are factors going against it which has nothing to do with the movie itself.
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December 25, 2022 at 10:15 PM
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/dax-tejera-dead-abc-news-this-week-producer-dies-1235287355/
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December 26, 2022 at 3:18 AM
Cirkus performed low on its first 3 days at the box office and earned roughly ₹ 20.1 Cr India net. 4th day opens at 7.31%.
Cirkus may earn 2.50 Cr India net on its fourth day.
~ Sacnilk
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December 26, 2022 at 7:33 AM
This is really sad. For months i’ve been pinning hope on Cirkus. I guess a reset is needed because shetty was being pretty cocky. This should humble him little.
He will bounce back huge with singham.
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December 26, 2022 at 1:59 PM
Even I’m sure Rohit Shetty will bounce back with Singham 3 but there are some folks who think that Hindi audience have been exposed to better masala directors in RRR, KGF and Pushpa that Rohit Shetty needs to really up his game to impress hindi audiences with his masala ventures. All the same stuff which was working earlier may not work now. Singham & Simmba both brands are actually south film remakes. He needs to think make full on masala movie like south directors instead of half hearted ones. He still have better bet to get a hit out of Singham 3 and Golmaal 5 instead of new ventures.
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December 26, 2022 at 7:37 AM
Avatar Day 11 is heading towards 7 to 8 Cr, fantastic. Drop of only 40% from Friday.
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December 26, 2022 at 9:29 AM
Think it will be above 10crs
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December 26, 2022 at 9:10 PM
Its actually around 12 crs. Massive Monday. If not for the weekday drop would be closer to 15 crs
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December 26, 2022 at 1:07 PM
Hey guys wat is this 2 percent random sampling testing at CST BOMBAY terminal? Do I and my Dad need to get tested here for RT Covid? Or will it be a double task since U will get texted in Bombay nonetheless?
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December 26, 2022 at 1:34 PM
You might get randomly chosen to be swabbed and provide a sample (agar kismat ke L lage ho to). Else its all fine.
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December 26, 2022 at 1:40 PM
I think if you take a test result (within 48 hours) from here, USA, they won’t ask you even if you’re one of those 2% since you have current result with you. Probably better to go with it instead of being unlucky and get chosen and than what if you do have covid?
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December 26, 2022 at 2:17 PM
Last year, I was among 2% when I landed at Bangalore airport (this year there was no testing) during Omicron. I was shepherded to the front of line. More time was taken by staff to write my address and other things. And they really poke your nose (second time while returning at a hospital).
ps – I didn’t receive any call so I assume, my results were negative.
ps1 – I was carrying negative result before boarding the flight.
ps2 – India-Airport testing was free.
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December 26, 2022 at 3:20 PM
Crosses 1.5 Cr footfalls. One of the biggest urban multiplex niche hits since the days of Chak De, ZNMD and Barfi.
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December 26, 2022 at 3:42 PM
Monday Update: Avatar – The Way Of Water And Drishyam 2 Super Strong
Monday 26 December 2022 23.15 IST
Box Office India Trade Network
Avatar – The Way Of Water will have a huge second Monday as collections look set to be better than the Friday at around 12-13 crore nett. The film is recording collections better or in a similar range to Friday in most circuits.
This would mean that the film has collections close to 70 crore nett in the second week and with the holiday period on you cannot rule out a second week of 100 crore nett which is out of this world and will be a first Hollywood in India.
Avengers Endgame had collected around 76 crore nett in week two and that record will be smashed easily in just 5 days of the second week. This second Monday also gives it a shot at the 367 crore nett lifetime total of Avengers Endgame. Although it is a long way off it does now have a chance for the first time since it released last week.
Drishyam 2 has also seen fantastic collections on its sixth Monday as collections could finish 50-60% more than its sixth Friday. The film will now have an extraordinary sixth week which will be among the top five in history and maybe even top three.
The film is getting huge benefit of the failure of Cirkus and may even start doing better business than Cirkus next weekend. Cirkus has taken a hit on Monday as expected and collections will be down more than 50% and it may well be looking at collections in the 3 crore nett range and maybe even less.
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December 26, 2022 at 9:01 PM
Massive for Avatar 2!
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December 26, 2022 at 6:17 PM
Exclusive | 20 years of Kaante: Sanjay Gupta reveals how Amitabh Bachchan refused to abuse, his near-fatal accident
Released on December 20, 2002, Kaante acquired cult status over the years and is remembered for its style, dialogues and music. The film starred Amitabh Bachchan, Sanjay Dutt, Suniel Shetty and Kumar Gaurav. among others.
So, what’s the origins of Kaante?
The whole world thinks Kaante is Reservoir Dogs, no it isn’t. there are a few similarities in the second half of the film but the genesis of Kaante was the Tribhovandas Bhimji Zaveri & Sons Jewellers robbery case, which was later made into the film Special 26. Till today that’s unsolved. My idea was, what if they were six boys from Dagdi Chawl, who conduct the most successful heist in the history of India, go back to Dagdi Chawl which is suddenly surrounded by cops.
At what point did the Reservoir Dogs inspiration come in?
There was a producer from Los Angeles called Raju Patel. He wanted to do a Hindi film and suggested to do a film based over there, as he would organise everything. I told Sanju, ‘Ok, so the story could be that all these guys are based out of Los Angeles.’ That’s the time that more than Reservoir Dogs, I was inspired by The Usual Suspects—a group of strangers who meet in a lock up.
https://indianexpress.com/article/entertainment/bollywood/20-years-of-kaante-amitabh-bachchan-no-to-abuse-sanjay-dutt-9-11-near-fatal-accident-sanjay-gupta-8333223/
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December 26, 2022 at 10:52 PM
This is unbeliveable ..insane how did this guy was able to hijack 2 cars in a chase and keep evading the cops for quite some time..right in Hollywood
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2022-11-16/man-wild-los-angeles-orange-county-police-chase-faces-18-felony-charges
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December 27, 2022 at 8:29 AM
LA is wild, have always been as far as i can remember from early 80s.
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December 27, 2022 at 8:26 AM
Avatar strong on Tuesday too, will be double digit again. Toppled Kashmir Files in no time. Will easily go past RRR by end of the week.
Cirkus crashed even further on Tuesday.
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December 27, 2022 at 8:31 AM
Drishyam in week 7 will probably collect more than Cirkus by this weekend.
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December 27, 2022 at 8:33 AM
Kashmir Files and RRR (Hindi) are unilingual films catering to Hindi audiences alone. Why comparing a multilingual Avatar 2 with them? Either put up Avatar 2 English (or Hindi) only collections or consider RRR in all languages (>750 Cr net). Trade reporting is laughable nowadays and barely considers India’s multi lingual diversity while reporting numbers.
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December 27, 2022 at 9:18 AM
Money is money, no matter what language it’s in.
You can find many ways to separate the totals such as language, ticket price, 3d vs 2d, paid tickets by corporations and other entities vs public paying, footfall, etc…
End result should be, treat India as ONE.
RRR and many south films are released in USA in multiple languages (Tamil, telugu, hindi), everything is reported as one total.
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December 27, 2022 at 9:48 AM
And very conveniently the cost of production as well as screen count is ignored. Even in absolutes Avatar 2 is not finishing anywhere near KGF 2 & RRRs pan India total of 800 & 750+ respectively. And I doubt the makers are going to make substantial profits from global collections looking at the COP. No trade site from BOI to Hungama to Koimoi ever reports pan India all language totals for the likes of Bahubali, RRR & KGF (the exact reason why you know their Hindi version totals) while such privilege holds true for the Marvel’s & Avatar’s alone.
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December 27, 2022 at 9:58 AM
https://www.boxofficemojo.com/year/world/?ref_=bo_nb_hm_tab
In fact, thanks to winter storms and a mixed word of mouth Avatar 2s domestic performance is well below expectation in NA and might finish below the likes of Wakanda Forever and Dr Strange 2s total of $400m+. Enough incentive for Lightstorm Ent & TSG to pause this outdated franchise right here.
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December 27, 2022 at 10:36 AM
I think its doing okay in USA. The second weekend came above the estimated 56mn at 64mn. MOnday was super strong and it should be above 425mn by Sunday EOD. After that is the harder part. It needs to get to atleast 600mn to have a good shot at the 2BN global BO Cameron said it needs.
India business is a blockbuster no?
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December 27, 2022 at 10:36 AM
“And very conveniently the cost of production as well as screen count is ignored”
Nothing is left out, I had “etc…” in it.
Yes, production, big director vs. small director, big stars vs small, ETC… There are countless way you can dissect it.
End result is, the TOTAL gets looked at, no matter how it was achieved.
It will be like saying Kohli scored century but since 80 runs came from a bowlers who are a batsman primarily and not a bowler, that will not be counted. In the end, the TOTAL matter, no matter how it was achieved.
Despite your ill wishes and bad weather, avatar put up solid numbers on sunday and monday in USA. Lets see how it does coming weekend. 1 BILLION will be reached WW. Not many movies can do that. Just because Shaan didn’t do business of Sholay, doesn’t mean it was a washout.
“Even in absolutes Avatar 2 is not finishing anywhere near KGF 2 & RRRs pan India total of 800 & 750+ respectively”
Yes, would have been nice if we can see a Hindi film in that list.
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December 27, 2022 at 11:11 AM
” It needs to get to at least 600mn to have a good shot at the 2BN global BO Cameron said it needs.”
I don’t think either will happen, both seems impossible. You need big numbers from China which is not happening.
If they had this movie at 2.5 hours, it would have helped so much.
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December 27, 2022 at 11:14 AM
The budget of movie is pegged at 350mn. But Cameron said they need close to 2BN to breakeven. That doesnt add up actually.
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December 27, 2022 at 11:23 AM
That’s an incorrect statement going in rounds. Cameron said that was in the 1st presentation to the studio heads and they were shocked but it was nowhere close to that. Secondly, as per some other articles, it goes into breakeven after 800 million, which it already has done it.
Secondly, (I posted above)Cameron says that part 3 is 95% shot and it’s been designed in such a way that it part 2 under performs heavily, they’ll wind up with part 3 and end with a trilogy OR else he has parts 4 & 5 to shoot in next 2 years together.
So, even ending with part 3 is also good idea and make only 4,5 after some 5-8 yrs break if there’s demand.
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December 27, 2022 at 11:26 AM
Ideally if a film is budgeted at 350mn (as reported by every single outlet in HW), breakeven will beat 700 to 750mn. So yes its surely broken even now
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December 27, 2022 at 11:44 AM
“Just because Shaan didn’t do business of Sholay, doesn’t mean it was a washout.” -Shaan wasn’t a franchise and yes, Shaan was classified as a huge underperformer by the trade in its initial run. It took re-runs for the film to break even. Either ways, Avatar 2 has fallen well short of expectation and being unable to match Dr Strange 2 kinda poor films in its domestic run is testimony to its underperformance. It was obviously never going to flop, that was a given even before release.
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December 27, 2022 at 11:56 AM
Not sure why you are saying it wont match Dr Strange. IMO it will beat that movie easily and most probably by Sunday EOD. Movies collect very well this period in the USA and even weekday behave like weekend
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December 27, 2022 at 1:39 PM
“Avatar 2 has fallen well short of expectation and being unable to match Dr Strange 2 kinda poor films in its domestic run is testimony to its underperformance”
No one said Avatar is being made for domestic market. It’s reach is world wide. Cameron would be just as happy if 1 billion is made just from USA or from Worldwide, end result is same for him.
This is true for 1st avatar, and a lot of other films, they collect huge globally, it doesn’t need to be blockbuster in USA alone.
Avatar 2 and 3 were shot together so this 300+ budget isn’t just for one movie, it’s for two. They’re making plenty of money on this and it’s not like it crashed, it’s still running good all over including India…
USA, Saturday was $15 million, Sunday was $25 million and Monday was $26 million. I won’t be shocked if Tuesday is close to $20 million. Tuesdays the ticket prices are cut in half in most US theatres but more audience coming in should put it at good total for Tuesday too.
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December 27, 2022 at 2:33 PM
So when a film falters in its primary domestic market (which is always the primary target audience for any industry), give the usual worldwide performance excuse like true SRK fanboys have been doing since the days of MNIK and Ra1. Anyhow the fact that its done $1B worldwide in itself is way too much for a movie as mediocre as this. Not that the first one was anything great but part 2 is a colossal misfire in every way apart from its visuals. As for the lack of Hindi films in the top, Dangal is still India’s highest global grosser for now while the footfall records of Awara, Sholay & Caravan cannot be broken even by the likes of Rajamouli just yet. A couple of poor calender years cannot tarnish an 8 decade old legacy of Hindi cinema.
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December 27, 2022 at 3:13 PM
“A couple of poor calender years cannot tarnish an 8 decade old legacy of Hindi cinema.”
Of course not, not at all but at the same time, first step of tackling any problem is realizing that there’s a problem. And there is problem of South and USA films making big bucks in Hindi market. Covid didn’t impact these movies. I don’t mean to sound that south/usa films shouldn’t be allowed to release or that i’m against those films but they are doing a damage to our own hindi films. Our film makers needs to realize this and come up with better products. 1 or 2 bad years can’t and will not erase glorious bollywood history but realize that there’s option for public now which wasn’t there before or it was at limited interest and availability. Now Avatar can open on as many screen as Hit maker Rohit Shetty film. That was not the case in 40s, 50s, 60s, 70s, etc… until past decade.
Hindi audience is beginning to latch on to south and usa films. There are big hindi films coming up in 2023 but i will guarantee you 50% of those big films will not have a clean release. they will be bombarded with boycott, etc… While south/usa films are enjoying clean up-beat release.
There is a problem and it needs to be addressed with all united. Film makers needs to get back to making good masala films instead many are making films with political tones and most of these film fail because people are fatigued by it.
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December 27, 2022 at 9:01 PM
26Mn Monday for Avatar was estimate, actual was 32mn. 6 mn more.
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December 27, 2022 at 9:54 AM
Santoshi’s comeback
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December 27, 2022 at 9:58 AM
How can you call it Vicharon ka yudh? If so, why did Godse shoot Gandhi. That no longer is battle of thoughts. Kuch bhi. Already, in TLBS movie, RKS made Gandhi accountable for Bhagat Singh’s death. Now, maybe Gandhi will take prominence and become equal to Gandhi as though both are of same stature and ideologies. As I said, Godse is current flavor, anything can happen.
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December 27, 2022 at 9:59 AM
“maybe Gandhi will take prominence and become equal to Gandhi” – 👏👏
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December 27, 2022 at 10:05 AM
Godse* typo.
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December 27, 2022 at 10:07 AM
AR Rahman is promising part. Hopefully it’ll be worth a watch (on OTT, ofcourse).
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December 27, 2022 at 10:17 AM
Gandhi’s lack of intervention before Bhagat Singh’s sentence is seen by many as a lack of accountability, esp since Gandhi & Bhagat never saw eye to eye & had polar opposite ideologies. Although I doubt Gandhi’s intervention would have made a difference to Bhagat Singh’s untimate fate anyways. Gandhian philosophy of Dharna’s and fasts is a complete farce & a waste of time (amusing that a self proclaimed devout Hindu preached the exact opposite of Krishna’s philosophy) when dealing with tyrants but definitely serves a good purpose for giggles & bedtime entertainment via films like Lage Raho..
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December 28, 2022 at 12:24 AM
This film is based on Asgar Wajahat’s play. So don’t worry. BTW many people have already declared Gandhi as some sort of villan. Some on logic and some on WhatsApp University posts. So no problem.
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December 27, 2022 at 1:46 PM
I really loved Santoshi Ghatak, much more than Ghayal.
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December 28, 2022 at 12:25 AM
Ghatak, Damini and Ghayal in that order for me. Sunny deol is/was ultimate in all films.
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December 28, 2022 at 2:31 AM
Santoshi’s best films have been with Sunny. They complimented each other very well and brought the best out of each other.
Glad to learn that they are back to working again.
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December 28, 2022 at 9:16 AM
Damini & Khakee would rate as 2 of my favorite Santoshi films, followed by Ghatak, Bhagat Singh & Ghayal. Santoshi’s far more secure at hard hitting action films than goofy comedies like Andaz & Ajab ghazab.
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December 28, 2022 at 8:53 AM
Damini was awesome too. Can’t think of bigger supporting role impact then the one sunny had in Damini. He literally brought the house down.
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December 28, 2022 at 12:23 AM
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December 28, 2022 at 12:24 AM
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December 28, 2022 at 2:41 AM
Drishyam 2 is still performing very well in week 6. As per BOI, it may be at around 225cr by end of week 6.
It beats Brahmastra if it collects an additional 5cr after week 6, which looks like a real possibility now. Either way, it has performed way above expectations.
TKF, Drishyam 2 and BB2 have performed exceedingly well,
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December 28, 2022 at 6:12 AM
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December 28, 2022 at 6:12 AM
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December 28, 2022 at 8:58 AM
From Krish above: “26Mn Monday for Avatar was estimate, actual was 32mn. 6 mn more.”
So Sunday was $29 mil and Monday is $32 Mil, pretty impressive. Some analysts are changing tunes now, you can’t blame them because week 1 was an under performer. If it holds well over the new year weekend, it will be good.
Doctor Strange total is already beat and it will touch billion dollar mark before the new year weekend starts.
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December 28, 2022 at 4:17 PM
Avatar in 2009 didn’t light up the BO..but it kept on going..
https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl876971521/
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December 28, 2022 at 4:25 PM
It kept on going for long long time.
I remember finally getting good seats tickets for it in 3rd week, it may have been even later than that.
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December 28, 2022 at 3:26 PM
@Krish, any inside on when Pathaan trailer coming out?
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December 28, 2022 at 3:44 PM
Reports say Jan 1st or 2nd
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December 28, 2022 at 10:54 PM
Jan 1-2 90% or Jan 5 10%.
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December 28, 2022 at 4:45 PM
Avatar came in at around $24 Million for Tuesday. This is fantastic number but as i had mentioned the business picks up Tuesday due to almost half price tickets in most theatres.
I assume it may fall to around $15 Mil or lower tomorrow.
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December 28, 2022 at 9:12 PM
By Sunday EOD it will be ahead of Dr Strange and Wakanda i feel
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December 29, 2022 at 1:52 AM
“Over the years, he has produced a plethora of films, including Bol Radha Bol (1992), Laadla (1994), Yamla Pagla Deewana (2011), Army School , Love Ke Liye Kuch Bhi Karega (2001), Dus (2005), Chal Mere Bhai (2001), Maha-Sangram (1990), Insaaf: The Final Justice (1997), Deewangi, Nayee Padosan (2003), Adharm (1992), Baaghi, Eena Meena Deeka, Tathastu, Tango.”
https://www.timesnownews.com/entertainment-news/veteran-film-producer-nitin-manmohan-passes-away-after-suffering-cardiac-arrest-bollywood-news-article-96587059
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December 29, 2022 at 2:29 PM
He was a big time producer in 90s. Made some big films.
RIP
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December 29, 2022 at 8:16 PM
Yes, big producer and as recent as last decade he produced Salman’s Ready and Yamla Pagla Deewana.
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December 29, 2022 at 4:49 AM
Posting from Twitter. Not sure if true
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December 29, 2022 at 8:56 AM
It’s possible, in USA, the Cinemark movie theatre chain already has it listed, just no show times yet. the movie is listed at almost 3 hours. I thought it was around 2 1/2 hours.
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December 29, 2022 at 3:44 PM
It has not been submitted to Censor yet. Only then final time will be revealed. But it won’t be 3 hours long.
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December 29, 2022 at 4:10 PM
I hope not and that it stays at around 2.5 hours.
There are lots of youtube going around saying some saw trailer and that it’s 2 minutes 37 seconds.
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December 29, 2022 at 4:34 PM
YRF doesn’t share their trailers with anyone from media, so all that is junk. They could have leaked trailer duration but none can see the trailer, that’s not possible.
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December 29, 2022 at 5:46 AM
Cirkus week 1 is just 30 cr, which shud have been the opening day figure. Will fold up at around 50 cr lifetime total. Disaster.
Avatar week 2 total in India is 290+ cr. Will cross 300 cr milestone on Saturday itself (31st Dec). Chances are there for touching 350 cr mark in its lifetime, but wont cross Endgame imo. Blockbuster.
Worldwide Avatar 2 has already touched 1B mark and will be chasing Maverick’s WW total by the end of its run. If it indeed does 1.5B+ lifetime, then part 3 and subsequent films will be justified.
Wakanda has crossed 800M worldwide and is another box office hit from Marvel.
And that is the end of 2022; HNY everyone!
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December 29, 2022 at 5:49 AM
In domestic market Avatar 2 will do around 450-500M and will be a success domestically too.
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December 29, 2022 at 8:52 AM
Avatar 2nd Wednesday is also double figure, 10 Cr. It will go below double digit tomorrow and then should be back to double digit on Friday.
It also goes over $1 billion.
Part 3 will release next December 🙂
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December 29, 2022 at 10:11 AM
Wednesday is 9.5 cr range. And Thursday is 9 cr as per early estimates. Avatar 2 is taking full advantage of the holiday period.
Third weekend should be 30+ cr.
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December 29, 2022 at 11:41 AM
You sound reasonable but Wednesday’s lifetime gross was less than 15 crores and Thursday was an OTT release
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December 29, 2022 at 3:45 PM
Part 3 is scheduled for Dec 2024. It’s alternat years of all 5 releases.
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December 29, 2022 at 3:21 PM
Not sure what coming weekend will hold but Avatar is doing something special in USA.
Wednesday was again over $20 million ($20.4 mil). This is definitely going over Jurassic Park by end of this weekend and may beat Doctor Strange by end of week 3. It’s not getting anywhere close to Maverick in USA but will challenge top spot for 2022 WW collection.
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December 29, 2022 at 9:18 PM
As i said it will be above Dr Strange by Sunday EOD. This is how movies typically behave over christmas week. Spiderman did 56mn last year and Avatar 2 will probably do above 50m this weekend maybe even more
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December 30, 2022 at 3:18 AM
Well they might as well release the next 2 snoozefests over Christmas weekend else they run the risk of finishing outside the yearly top 5 at the NA box office.
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December 30, 2022 at 7:51 AM
Aim is one of top 2 spot, not 5.
Snoozefest is killing it in India, made more than all hindi films in 2022…
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December 30, 2022 at 10:06 AM
Have you even watched it?
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December 29, 2022 at 5:38 PM
As the audience, we know right off the bat that Ryan’s theory is correct, and as such, the pacing can drag a bit while waiting for the script to fill the political gaps and build out the necessary characters to carry out the season to its expected and eventual conclusion.
However, it remains a fun watch for history buffs or fans of the spy genre. In essence, it’s the Tom Clancy brand at its best, which is exactly what you want if you’ve been watching the show from the start.
Without spoiling how the third season plays out, the finale does do justice by vindicating Ryan, the end ultimately justifying his means, and setting up for the fourth and final season, which was confirmed by Amazon Prime Video in May 2022.
https://www.militarytimes.com/off-duty/military-culture/2022/12/28/jack-ryan-season-3-ushers-show-into-its-anti-hero-era/
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December 29, 2022 at 5:41 PM
Nothing would ever top season 1 but season 3 is a far crisper & edgy successor to a dull & underwhelming S2. The fact that we’re witnessing a real world Russian aggression scenario that’s almost carbon copy only makes it worthier. Undoubtedly the small screen version of Bond and finally an espionage series the Americans have managed to ace.
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December 29, 2022 at 11:12 PM
Posted a comment and link in sports thread. Shocking that Rishabh Pant crashed his car and his car got burnt and he’s injured pretty bad. Hope no long term injuries.
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December 30, 2022 at 1:06 AM
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December 30, 2022 at 9:32 AM
Sad that it happened, he is lucky thou to survive.
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December 30, 2022 at 7:54 AM
Avatar holding up very solid on 3rd Friday, will easily get past 8 Cr today and i think it will do 30 Cr for the weekend.
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December 30, 2022 at 10:08 AM
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December 30, 2022 at 10:26 AM
Decent trend but at very low levels.
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December 30, 2022 at 1:12 PM
Avatar having a SOLID day 15, we’re not talking about few lacs or Cr, it’s heading towards 10 Cr for 3rd Friday. It will touch 300 Cr by end of Friday.
AMAZING…
https://www.koimoi.com/box-office/avatar-the-way-of-water-box-office-day-15-early-trends-did-this-just-pick-up-breaking-the-trend-of-slipping-downwards/
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December 30, 2022 at 2:25 PM
Komal Nahta:
As the year draws to a close, it turns out that only 11 films worked at the box-office. The 11 successful films of 2022 are: Gangubai Kathiawadi, The Kashmir Files, RRR (dubbed), K.G.F. Chaper 2 (dubbed), Doctor Strange In The Multiverse Of Madness (dubbed), Bhool Bhulaiyaa 2, Karthikeya 2 (dubbed), Brahmastra: Part One – Shiva, Kantara (dubbed), Drishyam 2 and Avatar: The Way Of Water (dubbed). As the list reveals, only five of the aforementioned eleven films are made in Hindi, the others being dubbed versions of either regional Indian films or Hollywood films. Interestingly, five of the said 11 films are sequels, all of them being the second parts of earlier hits. The sequels are K.G.F. Chaper 2, Bhool Bhulaiyaa 2, Karthikeya 2, Drishyam 2 and Avatar: The Way Of Life. Again, out of this list of five sequels, only two are Hindi films!
https://filminformation.com/featured/2023-films-to-pin-hopes-on-30-december-2022/
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December 30, 2022 at 2:47 PM
Would like to see full FI classification for 2022.
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December 30, 2022 at 3:18 PM
Oppenheimer and Nolan’s return to character oriented cinema :
As I watched (and rewatched) the teaser of Nolan’s next Oppenheimer, one cannot but help noticing the master film maker’s return to character oriented cinema, a brand of story telling that has made him one of the finest film makers of contemporary times. Not that films like Interstellar, Dunkirk and Tenet were mediocre by any yardstick (such is the genius of Nolan that even his underwhelming films are perhaps few of the decade’s best!) but the entire idea of building a plot around the central protagonist(s) is something Nolan seemed to have forsaken in exchange for larger than life concepts where characters fitted in as nothing more than pawns.
Considering films like Memento, Insomnia, The Prestige, Batman Begins, The Dark Knight and Inception, these are stories weaved around a set of characters and their obsessions and eccentricities that make the central characters so intriguing and fascinating that as a viewer one cannot help but stay invested in their (mis)adventures. Back home when we refer to stuff like the commercial masala cinema, they tend to follow the same template of a larger than life protagonist facing off against an equally larger than life & menacing adversary (from the times of Sholay and Deewaar right until stuff like War, RRR and KGF).
With films like The Dark Knight Rises, Interstellar, Dunkirk and Tenet, Nolan the film maker seemed to have shortchanged his characters for a conceptual brand of story telling where the entire hypothesis appears to be the main protagonist with the characters fitting in like puppets as per the maker’s vision & convenience (think films like 83, Pink and Zindagi na milegi dobara back home). With Oppenheimer being a passive biopic of Robert J Oppenheimer the physicist, we can hope to witness the character building exercise from Nolan yet again (perhaps for the first time since Cobb’s Inception) which perhaps makes this film as one of the most anticipated of 2023. The fact that the leading man is being portrayed by the versatile Cillian Murphy only makes it better.
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December 30, 2022 at 6:49 PM
Thursday was again over $20 million for Avatar in USA, simply amazing. It’s at $358 million right now.
$1.168 BILLION worldwide…
https://www.boxofficemojo.com/
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December 30, 2022 at 10:00 PM
Pathan has really made a mark and that too worldwide. Imagine this film with some other actor and creating this much of buzz? Never possible and that’s the reason Srk is ahead of all when it comes to stardom.
https://www.imdb.com/search/title/?title_type=feature&year=2023-01-01,2023-12-31
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December 30, 2022 at 11:49 PM
I’ve also noticed that word of mouth affects his films more than the other stars. Many of SRK films have lately taken decent openings but crash immediately if they aren’t good. The same doesn’t hold true for Salman/Akshay/Ajay films, they seem to get away with making mediocre stuff.
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