Bade Miyan Chote Miyan, Maidaan and the rest of the box office

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  1. Looks no confidence in the product!

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  2. #BadeMiyanChoteMiyan USA Day 1 advance sales have just now crossed $25K. Bookings trend is very slow and at this rate the opening will be lower than comparatively smaller budget films like #Crew and #TBMAUJ which is shocking. Weekend trend is also not encouraging. #BMCM

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  3. Sacnilk advance for Day 1(Thursday Holiday day)

    BMCM: 4520 tkts sold; 14.43 lakhs gross.

    MAIDAAN: 6313 tkts sold; 14.94 lakhs gross.

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  4. BMCM is at 4500 tickets and 14L…But look at the blocked tickets. Its 5 times more on Sacnilk at 76L..

    Sacnilk need to publish the Eid Advance also as anyways Day 1 is curtailed.

    BMS daily trend will start only if more than 5K is booked in 24 hour period and hourly trend will start only if 1K is booked in an hour. Even 5K trend hasnt started. Madgaon express etc were trending in 24hr window 1 day before release..Would be shocking if BMCM dont start trending by EOD at the very least

    I think we are looking at one of the lowest opener for a big budget movie on a national holiday on Thursday. This wont open as bad as Selfiee but considering the budget and period it will be worse, unless there is some pick up..

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    • I was thinking this will open atleast 20 to 25cr on Eid holiday but i think we are looking at some terrible numbers now…10 to 15crs??

      Its very hard to predict when there is no advance!!!

      Fighter did 40+ cr on national holiday just for context.

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      • Eid should be min 30 crs for BMCM and 18 crs for Maidaan. Anything below will be huge mess and tough to recover.

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    • I think this is Eid day Thursday’s advance. Or are they talking about Wed Paid previews advance?

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      • I want to understand how can Vashu Bhagnani keep making movies after such budget disasters.

        Bell bottom ; 150 crs budget and Disaster

        Mission Raniganj; 100 crs budget and Disaster

        Ganpath; 250 crs budget and Disaster

        BMCM; 350 crs budget and…

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      • Ok that is interesting if thats the case. And even more worrying advance for a national holiday. I was thinking 4500 advance is not worst thing in world as shows start only at 7pm

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  5. Here is a potentially huge one. It is going to be huge, even more notably in the Hindi belt. Looking forward to it. By far, the project with the highest potential to strike really big pan- India in the near future.

    ***Pushpa 2 The Rule Teaser ***

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    • tonymontana Says:

      why do you always look forward to chapri movies? Mesmerised by Animal, stunned by Pushpa, overwhelmed by Gadar 2, blown away by Salaar, overjoyed by Welcome to the Jungle?

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      • Why has Allu Arjun changed his gender in Pushpa 2? The teaser shows him wearing sari? Did i see it right?

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      • Not watched Salaar or Welcome to the Jungle yet for that matter. Not a fan of Animal at all, as posted here several times. However, I liked Gadar 2 for Sunny’s bravura performance and celebrated its success. Who does not like Rocky Balboa vs Ivan Drago stories where the underdog defies the odds and comes out a winner? I did find Pushpa quite entertaining, just like KGF. Expecting it to be a blockbuster success like KGF 2.

        It is good when films work. I hope both films of this week work, even if it would take a miracle. This year has been quite bad, except for Article 370. Fighter, notably deserved better.

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  6. Akshay fan clubs are mad on producers.

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    • Honestly, the producers have gone all out and promoting as much they can with huge billboards and marketing. Not talking about quality as they are not creative people as they sign directors and let them make movies. So, in that aspect can’t blame producers..all that effort looks waste if public doesn’t acknowledge or shows interest in the product. The audience is not excited with Akshay or Tiger these days. Nothing can be done and it’ll take time and lot of good films underperforming to turn the tide.

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  8. Obligatory 4 statlr pre-release reviews

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  9. bmcm moved to 11th. No paid preview..theatre to refund money to whoever booked on 10th. Maidaan solo release on 10th

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    • They are creating a mess out of nothing.

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      • You can’t cancel twice and then refund and then ask to book next day. First they had whole day shows, then only evening shows and finally all shows canceled on Apr 10.

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        • If I were producers, I will postpone it. You may have to pay extra interest on financing but no harm in delaying if there is no/little interest as of now.
          But can you generate interest say after 1-2 months? They need some catchy songs.

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      • maidaan show happened and the reviews are excellent..this could have played a part..they don’t want any shows on wed to affect the collection on Thursday. I suspect they will cancel overseas release also

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        • One more proof that they are not confident of the product and don’t want to impact only day good collections.

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        • Most of reviews of Maidaan seems good. Himesh has also praised it.

          Showing the move to press 2 days before seems like a very good strategy. It might have been a desperate movie seeing lack of advance but it also shows they were confident of their movie. Maidaan should do well in Plexes. Need to see if it can pull ahead of BMCM by the weekend. BMCM will be the top movie on Eid day.

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  10. Imtiaz Ali’s Chamkila is getting outstanding reviews. Diljit Dosanj has lived the role.

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  11. T minus 2

    BMCM PIC 5500

    Maidaan PIC 4300

    merry Christmas had 10k day before release..Yodha was 23k

    those are the immediate targets. Crew was 65k. That looks difficult

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    • Lol, competing with Merry Christmas now 😆.

      If an actor is giving flops, let’s make huge budgeted action flick like Pathaan and folks will turn up like 55 cr weekday opening just like that. No credit to SRK’s stardom but everything else from huge budgeted movie to franchise movie to anything else. Just coz we made grand movie, it has potential to do 700 cr Net and 1100 cr global boxoffice. Next, let’s make 500 cr like Avatar and everyone will come out to watch it and make it 2000 cr boxoffice. Matlab, kuch bhi.

      BTW, I read that Crew is selling more tickets for this Eid over BMCM or Maidaan in UAE.

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      • BMCM Last 24 hrs on BMS 5600 sold

        Shaitaan 5th week has sold 8K

        This is quite a sad rejection by audience. They are refusing to set foot until reviews are out. And to be frank one could see this since a month back and largely i was using Crew data only for comparison

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  12. Bob Cristo Says:

    Tell me honestly. Has anyone pridicted or expected any better than this for BMCH. Just tell me a single good thing about BMCM from what has shown us so far. Jaded, Cliched, Run of the mill film, pathetic music. Who will go to watch it?

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    • This is a 300cr production, promoted round the clock with reasonable stars with face value. I think the shock for trade is not that it is not opening well but how low it is opening. Mery Christmas and Yodha still have better advance and the best it can hope is a 40K advance which is in range of Prithviraj and Raksha Bandhan.

      You have different kinds of bad openings. This is a different level of low. Thats where the shock is.

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  13. Bob Cristo Says:

    Even after watching Selfie and Mission raniganj’s 2 cr opening. Is is still shocking. Mind you they were/are good movies story wise.

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    • Yes….the genre of BMCM makes it much more BO friendly and universal than those two movies. It was/is probably the biggest movie from BW to release this year, bigger in scale and COP than Fighter.

      The hope is the walkin is as usual on Eid and it touches 15crs. Typically national holidays have huge walkins. And one reason that 15cr is possible even with zero advance is also due to genre.

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      • 300 Crs investment might have worked with these 2 guys in 2019. But post pandemic their stardom’s taken a beating. This is poor planning & strategizing by the investors.

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  14. Yeah, saying we all knew BMCM would flop is not the same as the audience rejecting Akshay Kumar and not even giving him the chance. It’s not a total boycott like Kangana yet but for a male proven superstar, this is quite shocking. We witnessed the 2022 bad year when he went about promoting all his crap movies and 2023 has 2 movies that both of the audience didn’t want to see even after getting good reviews (2 crore openings). I mentioned earlier, that film flopping is not an issue if it’s a bad movie but if it’s a good movie and the audience still doesn’t want to watch it as they don’t want to see this star, that’s the saddening part for an actor. That’s when you lose the stardom. If there’s no stardom and even a great movie having Jacky Bhagnani himself in 300 cr production no one will watch him.

    Flops aur flops ka level hota hai. The way Ganpath flopped almost killed Tiger Shroff’s career and it can’t come back. The way Gori Tere Pyaar Mein flopped killed Imran’s career.

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  15. Who can think Crew (not some Pathaan or Jawan) is selling 5 times the ticket in 3rd week when compared to huge production like BMCM? Not even in wildest dream.

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    • Fan’s can’t even complain that there was a clash, Lol.

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      • You put Salman in one of the roles, have the exact same set of jaded promotion, Music etc the movie opens to 35+ cr easily.

        There is no escape for Akshay Kumar here.

        He needs to move back to his forte. Keep a restricted budget and do movies where 100cr net gets you hit status. He is an important actor for the industry considering how prolific he is but that is exactly why he should keep the budget restricted.

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        • Not many remember that’s what happened in early 2010’s when Tees Maar Khan, Action Reply, Once Upon a Time in Mumbai 2 etc kept flopping, he had to resort to smaller budgets and 100 crs hit starting from Special 26. That revived his career which he followed with Holiday, Baby, Airlift, Rustom, Toilet, Padman etc etc. That should be his forte not trying to become Salman Khan by making huge budgeted movies while releasing them consistently.

          He needs to go back to low budget good content movies and stop the fight with Neeraj Pandey and sign his next movie and let him make whatever he wants instead of Welcome 3 by Ahmad Khan or Hera Pheri 3 by Lord Farhad Samji.

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        • 100cr would be enough for very small films these days.

          I don”t think Akshay or Tiger would be finished by this flop. Akshay has had leaner spells, much worse in the 90s and he bounced back. And remember, just before the pandemic, he was constantly getting near or around the 200cr mark, delivering Good News, Mission Mangal, 2.0, Housefull plus Kesari within a spell of around 12-13 months. Then he had Sooryavanshi right after the pandemic.

          However certain genres are working after the pandemic. Small social films not as much. But OMG2 still made 150cr, despite Gadar 2. The is the genre which most stars should try to avoid, however.

          So, the genre becomes important. As for Tiger, he was on a high after Baaghi 2 and was hit hard when Baaghi 3 released right during the pandemic. There are not too many action stars from the younger lot. So, he has a chance there.

          Remember one thing. Smaller films are finding it tough, making it more difficult for newcomers to break through. Can anyone imagine a film with debutants striking it big like it was the case earlier? I cant see that. So, stars are going to stay. There is no one coming in to step into their shoes right now. They just have to ensure a hit once in a while.

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    • Next level EMBARRASSING

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  16. Sacnilk Day 1 updates

    BMCM: 34523 tkts sold; 81.46 lakhs gross

    Maidaan: 16062 tkts sold; 35.7 lakhs gross

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    • Don’t know how they are posting 34k tickets suddenly without any movement on BMS. Looks fishy.

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      • Okay, my bad. This is complete tickets and not just PIC tickets. PIC should be around 10-12K now.

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  17. Samosa khaya hai Jordan mein to kuch to bolne padega!

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    • The best bet these days are sequels to earlier successful films. The brand creates interest in the minds of an audience that has become more choosy and one that has already made its mind on what to watch much before. Sequels help in that respect. But every of these will work.

      Devgan is a wise man. He is going for sequels with a vengeance: Singham 3, Raid 2, De DePyaar De 2, Golmaal. He is now to announce Son of Sardaar 2 with Sunny Deol. Smart moves. I guess he will announce Shaitaan 2 as well. Horror is working well with BB2.

      if 2 or 3 of these sequels work, he will keep going and build upon these.

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  19. HIMESH PIC Advance Update for April 11- Eid Holiday

    BMCM: 12,900 tickets

    MAIDAAN: 9000 tickets

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  20. tonymontana Says:

    it can still open not too badly, considering the genre is action and that depends on on-the-spot booking.

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    • Less than 20 will seal the fate. Hard to recover after that. Shehzada opened between 6-7 cr with 30k advance. If we add double of that with 30k advance, it’ll be 13 cr opening in National Holiday. Is that not too bad?

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      • On NAtional Holiday walkins are huge. The question is will audience walk in though?

        I think BMCM can do 15cr on Day 1 even with a 50K advance due to walk in if at all people walk in. It will be terrible opening but will be better than opening at 7 or 8 cr on Wed.

        For some reason makers are pumping BMS likes. Yesterday it added 31K BMS likes but whole day (24 hrs) only 11K tickets were sold in BMS. Movie is still not trending hourly which means hourly ticket count is less than 1K. But they seem to be artificially pumping BMS by 31K in 1 day using BOTS. Not sure how it helps. If 31K people have interested likes in 24hrs they should also be buying tickets 🙂

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        • They have also goofed up big time on pricing. They have opted for premium all time pricing for BMCM. Its way higher than Dunki and Salaar and highest ever in IMAX.

          Net result of that is IMAX in Hindi has sold only 680 tickets all over India across all properties whereas Tamil version has sold 2K tickets.

          Very poor decision making on pricing. Maidaan on other hand has opted for popular pricing.

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        • I thought Malayalam will be hot due to Prithviraj but it got only 5 shows and hardly any tickets. Not sure why Tamil I selling tickets when it has nothing which connects them.

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        • They should have cut a Malayalam trailor with Prithviraj in focus. In that mask he is not even seen

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  21. I hope Naveen’s review is ready before release, bas publish hone ke der hai!

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    • Bob Cristo Says:

      whatever. But Tarakki to ki hai launde ne. Here everyone is doing chamchagiri of his favourite actor. Only difference is in degree. Yes Naveen goes over the top but what’s wrong if he gets monetary benefits out of it. Feeling happy for him.

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      • Everyone here is happy for him as well. No one wishes ill for him. Besides, definition of tarakki differs. Posting a bollywood review in foreign country is not tarakki but as he says CEO under 30 on his profile is definitely tarakki. ( NO idea CEO of what?).

        The point is to do any job for its purpose. If the point of review is to give only 4 stars irrespective however the movie turns out then it becomes futile to post in a newspaper. Online blogging and serious reviews are different. I wouldn’t want to earn money through dishonest ways but that’s just me.

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  22. Maidaan getting positive reviews all over. Let’s hope this well intended film gets what it deserves. Good for Ajay sir.

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  24. tonymontana Says:

    Finally caught Dunki on Netflix. If there’s one word to describe it, it’s inconsistent. Terribly inconsistent. It goes on quite a few highs and then dips to shockingly mediocre levels. The rip-roaring comedy that is Hirani’s forte is missing in the first half except a few well-written scenes highlighting the principal characters’ struggle with convincing the visa agent of their English speaking skills. The emotional scenes work sparingly, but it’s clear that the film was written at a time when immigration was looked at with a different political view. At a time when the world is becoming xenophobic, sometimes justifiably so, the theme of Dunki might not be relevant and relatable to a substantial lot.

    The best part of the film starts just after the interval when the Dunki process begins and ends with the ridiculous church scene. SRK’s character, though presented as a strong and resilient man brimming with idealism, reeks of hypocrisy at the same time. He’s willing to risk his and others lives by engaging in an unscrupulous activity, but shies away from lying in court even if that means finally succeeding at what he spent the past several months planning for. It is also an inconsistent performance. Even when he is in form with no dips in his energy levels, that overdone Punjabi accent serves as a roadblock and it becomes difficult to take many dramatic moments seriously.

    The film flips from one tangent to another and finally brings home the idea that it’s not worth leaving your motherland to live a life of less dignity and constant struggle to make ends meet. The old-school filmmaking style of Hirani is there in many scenes, minus the magic of the Munnabhai series or 3 Idiots that made them mass favourites.

    Dunki can be called decent at best despite all its flaws, but I can’t imagine how disappointed the fans must have felt when they finally caught it in theatre after months and years of hype, expecting no less than a masterpiece from two of hindi cinema’s legends.

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    • Quite rightly pointed out issues with moral compass.
      In spite of theme of the movie not resonating with public, there could have been better screenplay

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  25. Kinda obvious and open this time with BMCM!

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  26. Eid Mubarak!

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  27. Day 1 prediction

    BMCM : 14 crs

    Maidaan: 8 crs

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  28. bmcm has taken pic fraud to a new level…the official pic no is 107k..at night 10 pm it was 40k…some pumping they have done on tickets.. Cinepolis has been made bigger than it is ..

    crazy stuff going on.

    waiting to see if media calls this out…it’s so easily catachable..wait for some reports today

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  29. Tickets sold on BMS & PIC in bracket. See the correlation

    Jawan: 1653K (560K)

    Animal: 1264K (460K)

    Tiger3: 738K (290K)

    Dunki: 533K (230K)

    Fighter: 307K (145K)

    Shaitaan: 159K (80K)

    for BMCM

    it is 65k (107k)

    only for one movie bms has sold less than PIC.

    source of data is jatinder from pinkvilla

    cinepolis is pumped up and made equal to PI. Usually cinepolis is just around 20 percent of PIC

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  30. All fake shows.. critics going but no shows in cinemas.

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  31. BMCM Review

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  32. Sikander Eid 2025.

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  33. BMCM Leading today. Walkins is there not great but they havent given up on the movie as that was the biggest worry. 15cr is possible. Reviews are mixed though. So hard to know how the long weekend turns out

    Maidaan good review but not enough crowd yet. Again hard to know if families come out due to the genre issue (same issue which Dunki faced). The genre limits the total as its dependent on families as can be seen in Shaitaan also

    I think BMCM wont cross 100crs just seeing how it stands today. Maidaan is wait and watch, depends on the evening crowd to take it forward

    Overall a bad Eid but doesnt look an outright disaster (not wrt budget etc) thankfully at this stage.

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  34. Samosa rating..

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    • Other rating

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  35. Problem is too much oil in samosa. Lol.

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  36. LOL, Komal Nahata enjoyed Jordan but he’s still calling this out!

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  37. Taran

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    • Actually, feeling bad.. I was sure that movie will not work due to budget and lack of audience interest but even if averagely made, I wanted to check it on big screen as it’ll be waste to see it in smaller screen. But looking more difficult now.

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      • I look at traffic to this blog as barometer for interest in a movie.
        For Pathaan, Animal, Jawan it was 3k+ visits per day. Even for fighter (I think 2k)it was high but less than earlier mentioned movies.
        For this one it is hovering around 800+ which is marginal more than regular days without any big release.

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        • I can’t fathom the dumbness of folks who still think Pathaan or Jawan or some media made or hype based or corporate blockbusters. If it’s so easy, everyone would have done including BMCM now.

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  38. Love Naveen for this! One more time attitude!

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  39. More crowd than Eid releases is here! Crazy!

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  40. BOI 1st day estimates

    BMCM : 15 crs

    Maidaan 5 crs

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    • Disaster day 1 for both films, no mater how you analyze it.

      More for BMCM as it’s a huge budget and masala action film.

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      • BMCM spent 2 years in making and with 350 crores and huge promotions all around and spending across opening around 15 cr on one of the biggest holidays out there.

        Shaitaan spent 2 months in the making with budget 65 crs and limited marketing and opening around 15 cr on smaller holiday.

        Matlab kuch bhi!

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        • If BMCM had released on April 10, 1 day before holiday, it would have collected under 5 crs. Even now, many saying it’s not double digits and additional 5-6 crs are inflated including Komal Nahata. That’s outright rejection by audience without even giving a chance. The last we have seen is for Kangana, it doesn’t matter how the movie is, public ko dekhna hi nahi hai.

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        • That’s the concerning part. Audience not even giving it a chance. Ideally for a big movie, the fall should start Monday, but here, day 1 itself is underwhelming to say the least.

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        • Day 2 if they don’t do any producer booking is going to be terrible looking at advance..

          day 1 actual ticket sale would be 11cr tops..

          cant call this corporate booking where brands are involved. This is more like salaar scam where producer buying tickets..

          fwiw day2 advance is organic..and that’s why only 72k sold

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  41. MAIDAAN SCREENS

    Maidaan has been released on with 2000 screens in India and 1600 screens in overseas for 3600 screens worldwide.

    MAIDAAN BUDGET

    Maidaan is estimated to be made on a budget of 90 Crores inclusive of P&A.

    Maidaan needs to cross 90 Crores to be called an Average fare (estimate).

    https://www.bollymoviereviewz.com/2024/04/maidaan-budget-box-office-collection-day-1-worldwide.html

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  42. Before release:

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  43. Akshay Kumar next films

    1. BMCM -Apr 11
    2. Sarfira (Soorarai Pottru remake) – July 12
    3. Singham Again (cameo) – Aug 15
    4. Sky Force (India vs Pak attack through aerial in 1965 war) – Oct 2
    5. Welcome to the Jungle – Dec 20

    2025

    1. Shankara ( C. Sankaran Nair biopic)
    2. Khel Khel Mein (Mudassar Aziz directorial)
    3. Hera Pheri 3(no confirmation).

    He needs to clear this backlog and get back to basics and controlled budgeted movies and reduce his signing amount to 40-50 crores instead of 150 crs now.

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    • Just after my post, this one shows up on Twitter. Why not post here Naveen?

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      • BMCM is looking like a very potential disaster, for sure.

        Maidaan’s 5cr opening on a national holiday, on the other hand, is almost as disastrous as the openings of Selfie and Jayeshbhai Jordaar.

        And there looks nothing promising in the next 2 months or so. It means that after Animal last year, it has been mainly downhill, with the exceptions of Article 370 and Shaitaan to a certain extent. Looking like 7 months of barren run, baring a couple of success of small scale.

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        • The dull initials of both the Eid releases today have sent shockwaves in the film industry. It is baffling that neither of Bade Miyan Chote Miyan and Maidaan opened to even average houses, considering that today was a nationwide holiday for Eid. While BMCM is expected to close the day with a net collection of only Rs. 10-11 crore (not taking into account the tickets purchased by the producers to window-dress the opening day’s collections), the total for Maidaan may be in the region of Rs. 6-7 crore only (including Rs. 2 crore from paid previews on 10th April; again, not taking into account the comparatively smaller amount of tickets bought by the producers/actors). The weak initial of Akshay Kumar and Tiger Shroff’s BMCM is baffling because it is a mass-oriented film and hence should’ve opened far bigger on Eid day while the pathetic opening of Maidaan is intriguing because the same hero’s (Ajay Devgan) Shaitaan opened to far better houses just five weeks back and the film is, in fact, still running in the cinemas.

          https://filminformation.com/featured/box-office-poor-footfalls-make-2024-eid-lacklustre-in-trade-11-april-2024/

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        • looks like people are abandoning sinking ships.
          There is no way to tell how many tickets have been bought by producers. You can only guess estimate.

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        • Fighter & Sam Bahadur are successful films especially after the Ott performances & box office trend. Every films cannot be expected to be a shady blockbuster with bratty protagonists behaving like khaps & gujjars or rowdy vigilantes following marxism.

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        • Sam Bahadur maybe to a certain extent. Fighter scrapped to 200cr. Same for Dunki. Tiger made much more and is still considered as an under-performer. I liked Fighter much more than all these. It was watchable compared to the others, at least. But let’s face it. They are all under-performers. And huge ones at that. I can bet there will be no further Tiger film on its own, and certainly no Fighter 2. Just like there will be no Brahmastra trilogy! And Dunki may have ended Hirani’s career. From when did OTT performance translate into theatrical success? We were all laughing at claims like some time back.

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        • OTT and subsequently satellite television performance signifies long term acceptance just like it has for films like Hera Pheri, Lakshya & Swades. No one would care about box office numbers 20 years down the line but films like Fighter & Sam Bahadur would easily stand the test of time (unlike Brahmastra, Dunki & Tiger 3 which didn’t succeed in Ott beyond their first week) and that’s what counts for a lot more especially when the films are Average fares and not outright Flops the way you & certain few have been trying to make it sound like.

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        • Add 83 to the list as well. Satyam shotees seem obsessed with box office numbers & verdicts more than audience trends & acceptance as if they’ve personally paid out of their pockets to purchase these films.

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  44. Part of production school about how NOT to mount a movie.

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    • bmcm is done today

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      • I don’t know why producers are not doing Pathaan or Jawan type corporate booking and take it to 500 crores if that was so easy. Especially Bhagnani has enough cash to do the same and this had his son’s entire career as producer riding on and would have settled Jacky Bhagnani as important producer for next 10 years. But alas, only SRK and YRF has 100 crs to book extra tickets but none of the other producers or actors like Akshay have money to book their own tickets and take it to 500 crores. Alas.

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  46. What BOI says today about BMCM is worrying for even Pathaan 2.

    “Akshay Kumar and Tiger Shroff at a better time with better marketing and promotion with the same content may have got the film a better initial but at its costs this sort of cinema would eventually have the same fate as today the masses dont want the Hollywood clones. The Hindi circuits are rejecting the Hollywood films in the same zone.

    Pathaan is the one in this zone to perform well post the pandemic backed up by two blockbuster songs but still even at that time there was underperformance in mass and post that its been a downward slide with Tiger 3, Fighter and now this.

    The film will see a heavy fall on day two as fair value collections on day one are lower and it will fall from the fair value number and once the film is in single digits in the Eid period itself there is no coming back.”

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    • 4cr for Maidaan and 15cr for BMCM respectively, as per BOI.

      BOI talk a lot if shite. But I agree to what they affirm here:

      Akshay Kumar and Tiger Shroff at a better time with better marketing and promotion with the same content may have got the film a better initial but at its costs this sort of cinema would eventually have the same fate as today the masses dont want the Hollywood clones. The Hindi circuits are rejecting the Hollywood films in the same zone.

      Pathaan is the one in this zone to perform well post the pandemic backed up by two blockbuster songs but still even at that time there was underperformance in mass and post that its been a downward slide with Tiger 3, Fighter and now this.

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      • The part on Pathaan is spot on. A month or two back i had said Pathaan working is looking more and more like an exception than the norm. Jawaan looked very rooted and the kind of action masses like. But Pathaan was in the same zone as Tiger or Fighter. But there were couple of differences – SRK coming after a hiatus means the craze was out of the roof. There was genuine expectations among the people. Secondly the posters and way the trailor was cut was more massy than the other Hollywood type movies like Fighter etc. The movie itself was quite entertaining compared to Tiger which was so glum and serious. Its only way i am able to rewatch from last year. (havent seen fighter yet)

        Pathaan 2 surely must be careful, Need to keep it more rooted rather than like people flying here and there like Tiger.

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    • So BOI knows more than the Yashraj think tank now.. wow! Bottomline is a couple of blockbuster songs would have elevated collections of both Tiger 3 & Fighter by at least 25-50% like they did with Pathan & the Alia-Sharvari film as well as War 2 & Don 3 need to have these elements going. BOI & its cronies might be desperate to get back to the days of Ghajini, Wanted & Lousy Rathore but I’m sure such nonsense would be rejected by even single screen audiences today unless they’re sequels (even Telugu cinema of all is going the Salaar & KGF way!).

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  47. Singham Again moves.

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    • Wise decision. These 2 films are the potentially biggest films of this year. Good that they averted the clash. Diwali 24 is a tremendous release date for Singham 3.

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  48. Back to back Eid flops inspite good films!

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  49. Yes. Different films, different genres. Both can do well on Diwali. It’s not as if Singham is clashing against another action film directed at the masses. Singham is at its best in Maharashtra, and that is exactly where Puspha has struck a chord. It is likely to do very well there. We should not be under-estimating it. Remember, on this forum, news that LSC would clash with KGF 2 met with response like: Good luck to KGF 2. It is going to be destroyed in the Hindi belt. I was wary about that. Pushpa has that kind of potential, like it or not.

    The fact that Singham and BB3 belong to different genres can help as well. Last year, we had 2 films belonging to different genres releasing on same date, and they did around 525cr (Gadar 2) and 150cr (OMG2) respectively. At the same time, there was Jailor that was causing havoc down south.

    As for BB3, I am not under estimating it at all. It is likely to do very well. Casting Madhuri in there is a smart move.

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    • horror will always get eyeballs with decent drama.
      Same goes for raw violence. Masala violence needs songs and other ingredients.

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  50. BMCM looks like 6 to 8 cr today

    50crs will be touch and go

    Has to be biggest ever disaster in history of Indian cinema,

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  51. Looks like a crash all over the world.

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  52. BOGO already???

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    • Mukta Cinemas has 99 rupees from day 1 for any time any time for the entire Maidaan run. It is not helping.

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  53. Manoj Desai says even their matinee show is cancelled due to no audience on next day of Eid.

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  54. Expectations: 1100 crs worldwide

    Reality: 110 crs worldwide (tough to get even this number)

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  55. Hilarious ad as usual from Cred.

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  56. Samosa critics!

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  57. Ajay Devgn should avoid Eid releases.

    SRK should avoid Christmas releases.

    Akshay should avoid ALL festive releases.

    Salman Khan should only release Eid yearly.

    Aamir Khan should only release on Christmas.

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  58. Who wants to bet on Akshay’s next Skyforce – an aerial action film based on India/Pak 1965 war?

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    • If you are making so many movies, don’t invest too much on one movie. Diversify your risk in smaller partitions.

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    • Bob Cristo Says:

      TBH. Even after seeing Akshay and Tiger’s past record, whoever gives them 150 Cr and 40 Cr (if the figures are true), then he/she deserves to rot in hell (BO term for disaster). Who the fuck gives over 100 Cr to Akshay?

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      • If the numbers are true then some money laundering is happening.
        Just look at highest grosses of the stars and you will figure that amount cannot be reclaimed in ticket receipts.
        Typically producers get 35-40 cents/paisa per a dollar/rupee earning at ticket window. Even at 1000 crore gross, producers gets 350-400 crore.
        Other revenue streams are there but I think there is too much exaggeration and riders which are not published.

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      • The point is if 100 cr is Akshay’s price, there will be 10 producers willing to sign him at sametime. Then someone from that says, I’ll give 150 crs and then Akshay picks him for his next. Samething happened with Bell Bottom and BMCM.

        Even for Tiger, it was signed prior to his 2 disasters and he was coming out of War and then Baaghi 3 and then covid. So, he was in demand and 40 crs for such film is fine. Then he had 2 disasters in Heropanti 2 and Ganpath and now this is 3rd one which will close down his career.

        Now, they won’t sign Tiger for high price and similarly, Akshay needs to reduce his fee to 50 crs now.

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  61. Nitesh baba is right. BMCM boxoffice has surprised and shocked everyone.

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    • as I was expecting…before movie release budget 300cr, after movie release 150cr as per naveen

      bmcm is biggest disaster in history of Indian cinema…that’s only truth

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      • Despite the numerous flops, I believe Akshay Kumar has probably had one of the most extraordinary careers in Bollywood ever. This guy was basically at the same level as Sunil Shetty during most of the 90s, and coupled with the fact that he never had any great star power or acting talent (except for comedy) nor the backing of prominent directors, it’s nothing short of a miracle that he not only survived for over 30 years but became one of the richest stars ever.

        And come to think of it perhaps he did make the right choice by doing so many films. It’s not like he would have belted out blockbusters like the Khans by taking sabbaticals, just focusing on one or two films a year or become an exceptional method actor. I really think that the dude played his cards right.

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        • From his personal perspective he’s played his cards right. If there are idiots out there willing to pay you 100Cr not many people will say no.

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        • Of course, Akshay Kumar is struggling post pandemic. But, who is not? There are probably 3 or 4 stars who have benefitted from the post pandemic period: SRK, Ranbir, Sunny Deol, Devgan and Kartik Aaryan.

          Let’s take Devgan. He has duds like Bhuj, Runway, Bhola, Thank God and Maidaan. Some real disaster in there. He has met success with Shaitaan, and mainly Drishyam. He had some successful cameos in Sooryavanshi and RRR. However, we all know the main promise is in his line-up, with Singham especially, likely to be a sure shot success. It puts him into a tremendous position.

          Most other stars have been struggling. Akshay Kumar was on a high after Sooryavanshi, but except for OMG 2, there have been several disasters.

          Look at Hrithik, Salman, Aamir etc. They have had only under-performers. The main thing is that they bounce back with decent projects. They are all here to stay and no one is going to take their place in there.

          When you look at Aamir and Hrithik especially, they are not signing enough projects. They are banking on one project each, which probably means 1 release in 2 years. Ranveer himself has had a torrid time. Except for a moderate success in RARKPK, he has had major set-backs, including with films from YRF, Rohit Shetty and Kabir Khan. Right now, most of his projects have been abandoned. Producers and directors have backed out. He is on a ‘paternal leave’ while the baby is due in 6 months time.

          These are difficult times for every one. But they can bounce back through more work, in cases of some, and certainly better work in the case of the others.

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        • Mostly agree. But Akshay out of the lot needs to take the opposite approach. He could do with a break. Just forcing release on release won’t work.

          He has afforded himself the opportunity to be picky.

          What is the point on delivering disaster after disaster? The industry is not benefiting at all. BMCM looked incredibly derivative. Absolutely nothing looked unique. It’s fate was predictable. I’m not shocked, just a question of how low it can go.

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      • The collections are pathetic. Even if you combine them they still remain pathetic.

        Maidaan to some degree can be excused but still awful. I’ve seen one blog comment elsewhere and it said Maidaan is extraordinary.

        It’s a sad day if half decent movies cannot even make up on WoM.
        22Cr for BMCM and 10Cr including some previews for Maidaan is just another LSC/Raksha Bandhan moment. The latter is still worse collections wise. The former is worse cost wise.

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        • I just don’t think it’s even possible in this day and age to expect people to see a large no. of films on the big screen. Not only is it quite expensive but most films (even the good ones) just don’t warrant a theatrical viewing and can easily be enjoyed in the comfort of your home just a few weeks later.

          The future of cinema is very bleak at least as far as theatres are concerned, with a large no expected to close down in US and Canada in the next 5 years. Chris Nolan can shout and scream as much as he wants about the greatness of the big screen experience, but that’s the sad reality.

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        • “Chris Nolan can shout and scream as much as he wants about the greatness of the big screen experience, but that’s the sad reality.” – well you can certainly afford a shout out when you deliver a $900 M blockbuster with a drama film. And what was Hollywood’s 2023 turnover vis a vis 2019 again?

          https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/barbenheimer-box-office-2023-revenue-bonanza-1235777081/

          And when was the last time Indian cinema had 5 400 Cr grossers in 12 months? So much so that even healthy numbers like 200-250 Crs now are “underperformers”. Attempting to blow up lousy loss making streaming platforms (dishing out disastrous shows week after week for slobs) by cherry picking the odd Maidaan (with a 2 year delay & virtually zero promotion) and trying to defame a 100+ year old robust industry.. good luck! All those theaters shutting down would eventually be replaced by the big screens itself.

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        • https://www.forbes.com/sites/carolinereid/2024/04/07/the-real-reason-for-disneys-11-billion-streaming-losses/?sh=52a9d6353b34

          oh dear! $11b losses in a single fiscal year for a streaming giant! Not finding enough couch potatoes willing to laze around on weekends from the “comforts of their homes”. 😜

          On a serious note, unless film makers from all over the world ditch the remake/rehash bug and focus on making more original content with an element of novelty, there’s gonna be whitewashing across theaters and OTT alike.

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  63. 3.5 stars minimum rating for poster now!

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  64. tonymontana Says:

    An in-form Imtiaz Ali shuts up his detractors by making an artist’s delight. Amar Singh Chamkila is a musical biopic propelled by songs lewd, titillating, provocative, political, and all-round brilliant.

    The film simply cannot be reviewed without bringing its music into discussion. There are no two ways about it—the talent Imtiaz Ali has for song picturisation and using the screen to evoke the intended emotion is rare among today’s filmmakers. Every Rahman original in the film hits the bulls eye, and its incredible how this director-music director collaboration continues to dazzle listeners with every subsequent film (Rockstar and Tamasha being earlier musical wonders).

    But Amar Singh Chamkila is much more than a medley of well-picturised songs. At the heart of a tragic life story of a gifted artist dying young is the director making a strong political statement and scathing social commentary on religious dogma and threats and violence as tools to curb an artist’s freedom of expression. Even 40 odd years after the timeline of the projected events, nothing has quite changed in our attitudes towards mainstream entertainment, and how we continue to disassociate an artist’s ‘voice’ from our political bias, and blame popular films and artists on ‘corrupting the youth’ but not the system in charge.

    At the end of the day, it’s all just about a singer in love with his work who sets out to entertain, without taking himself seriously or regarding himself a refined craftsman. The character is self-aware and self-accepting.

    Diljit is an absolute delight to watch. He contrasts the crude singer persona of Chamkila with a very charming and courteous off-screen demeanour, bringing the character to life and making him instantly. Parineeti is fabulous too, but her character never really takes off. Had there been substantial focus on developing it, the film would have been a notch higher.

    Still, there are more than a few reasons to fall in love with Amar Singh Chamkila: brilliant acting, stylised direction, innovative song picturisation, a relevant theme, and Rahman proving yet again why he was and continue to be a musical genius. The album is already a favourite and added to my playlist.

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  66. Trade expected 40 cr opening day collection and irony is that it fell short of that number even after 4 days weekend collection.

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    • Even less on BH and lifetime under 70 crs.

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    • How are dunki india and ww numbers looking now???

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      • Z.. looking at performance of recent releases, Dunki looks like an ATBB kind of success. You see when big action films fail during the time when action is the falvour of season, Dunki being a drama genere which is dead, is a huge success.

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        • The best part about Dunki is that they didn’t become overconfident thinking we have SRK and Hirani and let’s make huge budgeted movie and we can find ways to recover. Instead they realized the subject is not widely known and after covid, let’s try to keep drama genre as low as possible and they made it lowest budgeted SRK film and Hirani film unless you go back to MBBS times. I think you can’t find fault with that logic and still making 460 cr worldwide with 85 cr production costs. Nothing but successful venture all associated with it and trending wise also, it did pretty well and didn’t fizzle out. It opened low and still managed to go over 200 cr easily.

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  67. My updated comment.

    I want to understand how can Vashu Bhagnani keep making movies after such budget disasters.

    Bell bottom ; 150 crs budget and Disaster

    Mission Raniganj; 100 crs budget and Disaster

    Ganpath; 250 crs budget and Disaster

    BMCM; 350 crs budget and Disaster

    Next,
    Aswathama with Shahid Kapoor with 300 cr budget.

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  68. BMCM and maidaan are showing crash numbers so far for Monday.

    Completely rejected.

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  70. Even though everyone expected low numbers, these are shocking and new low especially for BMCM.

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  71. Biggest disaster week in Indian boxoffice. Last time it was Laal Singh Chaddha & Raksha Bandhan which do 60 crs and 50 crs. BMCM and Maidaan will be lower than those 2 movies with bigger budgets to them.

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    • The bigger concern is that both movies are not the worst kind. BMCM is actually average (I’ve heard from some folks) and Maidaan is actually good and still getting these disastrous numbers is shocking. If the stars can’t let a good film run with their stardom, then what’s the point of the stardom? I remember Chak De also opened low and was low on hype. Once the 1st show hit, it changed everything and SRK’s fans and general audience took the movie to next level. Sadly, Akshay or Ajay’s fans can’t do that even after good reviews.

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      • trailer has to be well cut to generate buzz; songs these days are just rehashed and loud. You want people to hum them.

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  73. Akshay debuting in Telugu cinema, starts shooting today!

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    • After Zero flopped, SRK took a break of 1 year to analyze the failure before shooting new film. After LSC failure, Aamir took a year off as well to think about his career. Akshay was promoting BMCM to Sunday and Monday morning collections dropped, he goes to Hyderabad to start shooting for his Telugu debut film. Ek dum mast planning hai!! Jeete raho!

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  74. King or Pathaan 2 or another movie?

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  75. chengezkhan Says:

    on the other hand…recent Malayalam movies are doing 100 cr plus business, like PREMALU, MANJUMAL BOYS, ADU JEEVITHAM, and now the latest release AVESHAM & VARSHANGALKESHESHAM will easily touch 100 crore, its been a terrific year for Malayalam movies especially when there is dry from other south languages.

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    • Premalu is a very nice and fun watch. The writing of the movie is terrific. The lead are nice but the best friend and the IT team lead are super characters and very funny. The team lead is a real hoot. It’s the same old story but the writing is what sets it apart from other movies..

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  76. Have read Ramayan story during school many times;seen Ramanand Sagar’s Ramayan when it was telecasted….have got hooked to Sony TV Srimad Ramayan..title song is addictive..

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    • This will push Bollywood’s attempt to make Ramayan by another 4-5 years. This is well made with good production and fresh faces. Only complain I have is, some acting is still melodramatic. I guess that goes with terrain.

      ps – I have seen only 4-5 episodes.

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  77. Those who thought Maidan would surpass Bholaa Meena Chota Meena’s (BMCM) success in just a few days must be feeling embarrassed now. While BMCM’s business may not have been exceptional, it’s essential to acknowledge that Maidan has also performed poorly. I want to remind those who supported Maidan and criticized BMCM that both films have had disappointing results. Let’s be realistic and fair in our assessments.

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    • tonymontana Says:

      Duniya ache cinema ko celebrate kar rahi hai, and you have devised 50 different ways to express how disappointing the collections of maidaan and BMCM are. cut the crap and watch Chamkila yo

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      • So you already know Maidaan’s a bad film even before watching.. nice 👏

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        • tonymontana Says:

          that’s not what I meant.

          watch Aavesham in a theatre near you. FaFa with his lean physicality is more convincing as a crowd pleaser than many of our so-called hindi movie stars.

          also watch Chamkila.

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        • Thanks but no thanks to these overblown k u t t y films with 40 kg mid- gets masquerading as movie stars, esp given 2 hoots about their diction that sounds more like a rottweiler on piles 💩 . Will give Chamkila a try later.

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        • tonymontana Says:

          there’s more to movies than pak bashing sentiments. Watch this to get entertained and overwhelmed. Book your ticket.

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        • Lol.. even a freebie won’t be enough for a 40 kilo ka chooza, the Nawazuddin of the Kootty’s (aptly defined by the chimp Krk in his Pushpa review since Phaad Phaasil looks like his half bhai jaaan anyways) 🀡

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        • will be out on prime video soon anyways.. lets see then if possible.. along with Guddu Chamkila

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        • tonymontana Says:

          Watching it on the big screen would be the ultimate experience. I dont remember when was the last time I had so much fun at the movies. My theatre erupted throughout.

          I’m sure you can risk a few hundred bucks if you can think of spending money on Gadar 2.

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        • Gadar 2 😂 .. brain fade moments

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  78. RIP…

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  79. Watched Chamkila last night.

    Hard to express in words but what a wonderful film.

    Imtiyaz direction and flow of the film is fantastic from first frame to the last.

    Dilijit is absolutely delight to watch. Would love to see him get more offers. I think he can easily slide in many low budget movies. All other cast members did well.

    Rehman music is good but Kamil lyrics are awesome. All singers sang their songs well. Menu Vida Karo is a gem.

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  81. tonymontana Says:

    Aavesham—outstanding fun at the movies!
    Just when I thought I had already had my share of good films for the first half of 2024, with Chamkila still fresh in mind, in barges Aavesham — an absolute banger of a film!
    The fun begins with the entry of Fahadh Faasil, a sociopathic cum funny-as-hell don that enjoys his violence as much as he lets his henchmen explain his exploits. From there on, it’s an absolute riot right till the last scene. It grabs you by the neck and treats you to one fun moment to the next.
    Won’t share many details, as there’s a lot to like. The comedy is spot on, the action scenes are straight out of a masala lover’s wet dream, and there are not enough words to describe FaFa’s showstealer act.
    Missing this on the big screen would be an absolute travesty! Do that at your own risk.

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  82. 4 south movies coming to ruin Bollywood.

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    • Kalki is a bilingual. Deepika >> Pra-baas. Its not about ruin as much as its about complement since AA films & Dharma are B’wood distributors themselves. Anyhow they all might just tank apart from Pushpa chameli 2 since eunuchs are the flavor of slum dwellers, OBCs & paan supari wallas since covid 19, be it Cunnt-aara or now Pushpa.

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  83. For Tony 🙂

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  84. Pushpa and Kalki have a chance for sure. Pushpa 2 will most probably do very well. As for Kalki, it appears to be a mega-project. Prabhas does not have a great record after Bahubali 2, but he still seems to guarantee around 150cr net in Hindi, and this is something that most Bollwood actors are regularly failing to come up with. . If Kalki is half decent, he will bring that to the table on his own. However, Prabhas, with all his limitations, is at his best in Salaar (it did 620cr WW) and Saaho kind of deals, and I don’t know much about the genre Kalki belongs to. It appears to be a sci-fi film.

    I don’t think Deepika brings that much on the table on her own, but she brings added on value for sure (as in Pathaan). A bikini song will help towards that (even if with Fighter, that pull was waning already). I know these are crass words, but these are the realities of the Indian audience these days.

    Overall, I am quite skeptical about these sci-fi films made in India. Not too many have got it right, and they end up looking like cheaper and inferior Hollywood clones, and they often lack the emotional and dramatic elements that the Indian audience look for and that can make up for these.

    On the other hand, Indian 2 will have both, Shankar and Kamal Hasan in their elements. Indian re-defined vigilant films in the 90s. While Hindi Industry practically gave up on the genre since the 80s, Indian did quite well in both the Northern and Southern territories back then and vigilant films have remained quite popular down South. In fact, when one looks for decent vigilant films made in India, most of them come from the South. So, the Hindi audience that look out for these deals often have had to go for the dubbed versions of these kind of deals, coming from the South. Kamal Hasan’s last film, Vikram, was a well made film in that respect.

    All these films that we are talking about, are not everyone’s cup of tea, for sure. I am going to get slaughtered here for sure for affirming that I am awaiting Indian 2. But Shankar, Kamal Hasan and a vigilant film, on the grounds of the first Indian may work out fine for me.

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    • Indian 2 trailor released last year is so terrible i lost all interest in the project

      Pushpa 2 will be biggest opener of all time.

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    • 1st flop for SRK after pandemic. Once you create a perception that it’s a cameo role and then it’s Suhana’s launch vehicle, it’s hard to beat that even if you increase your role or budget. This will never be taken seriously by regular audience and it will reflect in opening and lifetime gross especially the opening. It will behave like Salman’s Antim where he was trying to launch Ayush Sharma by extending his supporting role as parallel lead. Audience never took that as serious Salman Khan release. This is mess which RedChillies created and the output will be not positive and in that they have bumped up the budget to 200 crs which will not work out eventually for a movie without songs or without leading lady. Professional harakiri to launch the daughter.

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  86. Why does Vanga thinks he needs to keep reacting to every single soul who’s talking bad about his movies? I don’t get the logic. He should move on that some of them don’t like his movies.

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    • very thin skinned; You cannot make everyone happy and there will be people who will criticize.
      Even Adil’s take is somewhat confusing as people were aware of original which was a hit. To suggest he didn’t know the content morality will be like living in cocoon and came out to do this role.

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      • Adil Hussain doesn’t do many commercial films and it was just 1 day’s role of prinicipal and I don’t think he got any script or movie as in whole. Just 1 day shoot in between multiple films for the role of college principal, it’s easy to overlook what’s it about.

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        • It’s also to get turn off in first 20 mins especially Kabir’s intro trying to sleep with a patient and then her husband barging in and then the ice scene and then calling his friend to find any girl for that moment. That is actually TOO much for any Hindi commercial movie at least till then. I wouldn’t hold anyone if they want to walk out after that. They are free to follow their sensibilities. Adil Hussain also clarified his role of Principal was good and he was fine with his role.

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      • Vanga Reddy’s just a street side dolt whose better suited for his state of per-verts expertising in the Raghavendra Rao brand of cinema. This chuuutya is a confirmed raaapist with daddy issues whose brand of muck would soon be called out for what it is. Even Sajid Khan & his trans sissy had their days in this industry, only a matter of time.

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  87. Don’t know how the veracity of the claim..

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    • Tune is different than a complete song. Many folks suggest the tunes but it’s up to the music director to use that and then create a song out of it. Few other examples.

      Sukhwinder Singh also gave tune for Chaiyya Chaiyya from Sufi song Thaiyya Thaiyya to AR Rahman and he made a even a greater song out of it.

      Jugal Hansraj did 1st few lines tune and lyrics of Kuch Kuch Hota Hai title track.

      Hrithik Roshan gave the tune for Dil Leke Jaan Leke from the Na Tum Jaano Na Hum which his uncle made a song out of it.

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      • btw, Jai Ho is more about orchestration of the song and beats than the tune. No discredit to ARR and even Sukhwinder will agree to that. ARR has used Sukhi for the song as well.

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