Manmohan Desai’s Naseeb Song, Raj Kapoor, Amitabh Bachchan…

(appeared earlier in a somewhat different form on NG)

The John Jani Janardhan Naseeb song was weakly misread by Farah Khan in Om Shanti Om. The former isn’t really about ‘number’. What is noteworthy about the Naseeb song is that it precisely does not feature ‘everyone’. Some of the obvious ‘exclusions’ are Dilip Kumar, Dev Anand, Ashok Kumar, Rajendra Kumar, Shashi Kapoor, Rishi Kapoor, Jeetendra, Vinod Khanna. A similar list could be made for the actresses as well.

So what’s going on? Presumably some of these stars must have been busy on their own assignments but there’s something else too.

The stars that do feature in the song are Dharmendra, Rajesh Khanna, Raj Kapoor, Shammi Kapoor, Sharmila Tagore, Randhir Kapoor and so on.

Well all the stars that feature in the song had acted in Desai’s films (though I am unable so far to account for Rakesh Roshan! Well he can be the exception that proves the rule!). Shammi Kapoor did Bluffmaster, Dharam did Chacha Bhatija as did Randhir, Dharam aslo did Dharam Veer, Rajesh Khanna did Sachcha Jhoota and Roti, Sharmila Tagore did Aa Gale Lag Ja. Raj Kapoor of course was the great ‘teacher’, Desai had been assistant to him and later began his career directing the legend in Chalia.

So this a bit humorous, even a bit subversive. The event is a jubilee function for Dharam Veer. Normally the whole industry shows up for such an event but here the list is rather selective (of course Shashi Kapoor is not here and Rishi couldn’t be as he in the same film as a character, however no one who did not work with Desai is there!). It’s actually a bit of a Desai ‘family’ gathering!

But the fun doesn’t end here. The ultimate star, Bachchan (the one man industry by that time) is just a waiter here and dreams of becoming a star! Desai is craftier still. In a very important symbolic moment Raj Kapoor is at the center of things because he is asked to ‘play’ the harmonium (as he did in his films, most famously in Sangam). The great showman is therefore given his own ’show’ within the show! And the man who hands him the musical instrument and begs him to play is Bachchan! So Bachchan is connected in a very critical way to Raj Kapoor here (Qalandar has connected certain moments in Abhishek’s career to Raj Kapoor’s persona, another Bachchan therefore!).

Let’s not forget another bit of symbolism to the song. The ‘Allah Jesus Ram hain mere’ refrain. Bachchan is everyman of every(Indian). of course in Desai’s films Bachchan is most famously Anthony and Iqbal and the NAseeb character with 3 names. Raj Kapoor is the ultimate ‘humanist’ of Hindi cinema. If there is an actor before Bachchan who could represent the truly secular, the truly ‘classless’, if there was someone who could represent the ‘lack’ of proper markers of religion and ethnicity and so on it was Raj Kapoor.

Connecting Raj kapoor to Bachchan is therefore brilliant because Bachchan himself functions as another kind of everyman to the extent that he does not represent a religion or an ethnicity to the audiences. As I’ve pointed out before many of Bachchan’s canonical roles are coded with ‘minority’ signs. In the most canonical one of all Deewar, we see the nominal Hindu (Vijay) who has a quarrel with God and therefore refuses to enter the temple but on the other hand accepts the ‘talismanic’ significance of the ‘786′ badge (an important number in Islamic numerology as it denotes the ’sacred refrain’ that must begin every reading of the Koran or in a more general sense every ‘auspicious’ act, the character in Deewar explains as much). But then the badge actually protects him when he’s shot and significantly he only dies at the end when he loses the badge. One should take this a bit further. Bachchan does enter the temple later in the film when his mother is ill but to once again ‘quarrel’. The God in the temple functions in Deewar as an almost malignant force whereas the talismanic ‘786′ protects. This is powerfully, even dangerously subversive.

As an aside I should add that Desai picks up on the potency of this symbolism and Deewar and really takes it to a logical extreme in Coolie. There are credible accounts that Bachchan was supposed to initially die in Coolie. Then Bachchan almost died in real life and due to public pressure Desai changed the ending. As the film now stands Bachchan writes in his blood the basic proclamation that qualifies one as a ‘Muslim’ after he is shot. Later of course he survives. As the film originally stood this might have been the final ‘confession’ of Bachchan! But even in this revised version it is very potent. Nowhere else in Hindi cinema does one find such powerful ‘religious’ subversion.

Raj Kapoor and Bachchan are for Desai guarantors of the secular Nehruvian India of which Desai himself is the last true representative as ‘director’.

This is another instance of how underrated the masala tradition is in many ways. Those writers and directors were far more interesting than might appear to be the case. And today’s talents are rather impoverished to exactly the same degree! Farah Khan for example thought it was just about throwing in every conceivable star and starlet!

48 Responses to “Manmohan Desai’s Naseeb Song, Raj Kapoor, Amitabh Bachchan…”

  1. Naseeb song is an iconic moment in Bollywood history.
    As you point out it is much better crafted than the OSO song but is also held together by a much more masterful and charismatic presence.
    On viewing the OSO again ( one cannot help but see it again and again as is used far too much as a filler by Sony ), it is still enjoyable on its own. I find it hard to tire of looking at Shilpa’s kammar.

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    • yes agreed.. the song is a very iconic moment..

      the problem with the OSO song is that it keeps meandering along in terms of the introductions as well as the musical cues. With that many stars in the song it’s hard not to get titillated but the song doesn’t have a ‘narrative’ the way the Naseeb one does.

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  2. I left the following comment on NG in connection with Satyam’s piece on Naseeb there:

    “I also see the true presiding deity over this scene as neither Amitabh nor the specter of Raj Kapoor, but Desai himself (and the fact that this is a Dharam Veer jubilee celebration also makes this the only self-referential moment I am aware of in a Desai film), invisible just like the God of Chance who governs the business of lottery ticket with which the film begins and which determines so much of the action.
    [And of course the lottery ticket might simultaneously be another in-joke (i.e. not just “qismet” but “tukka”/fluke), inasmuch as it suggests randomness; whereas in Desai’s films the piling on of coincidence upon coincidence shows the very opposite of randomness, it shows a ringmaster and puppetmaster at work]…”

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  3. omrocky786 Says:

    What a song , and a great writeup Satyam.

    Re.-The God in the temple functions in Deewar as an almost malignant force whereas the talismanic ‘786′ protects. This is powerfully, even dangerously subversive

    But the God in the temple saved the life of his mother by listening to his prayers. LOL !!
    Tera Peecha Na, Main chodoonga Chaliye, Ban kar de tu, Chahen Mujhe !!LMAO !! Just kidding sir jee

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    • Thanks Rocky…

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    • And in fact this is interesting. Because the ‘786’ badge for all its religious connotations is really a mythic symbol and works perfectly with this new ‘Vijay’ myth that is in the making in this film. The God in the temple represents an older orthodoxy. The new hero that we see emerging in the film battles the old one. He is never an atheist. He is involved in a quarrel with God which makes his audacity greater than that of the atheist. The mythic hero of this narrative takes on a God who is almost malevolent. The legendary scene in the temple has the hero go through a number of emotional stages from plain anger to tears (yes those Bachchan tears!). But once the mother is cured we are back with the ‘786’ from which the hero derives his potency. When he loses it he also forsakes his life. This entire terrain of the film is mythic in every sense.

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      • I would also suggest (and this relates to some of the political debates we’ve had elsewhere) that what the ‘colonized’ (doubly so for it reacts to the ‘Muslim’ sign as well as the ‘British’ one and creates a political program that is very ‘new’) Hindutva politics completely empties out is precisely this mythic force of Hindu (and let us also recall here that historically this word refers to a geographical reality — the Indus — and not at all a religious one.. and which is certainly only ‘Hinduism’ after the British are done with their labeling) paradigms and thought. But ‘Hindu’ here also stands in for the ‘Indic’. Much as Desai’s Muslim belongs to an ‘Indo-Islamic’ constellation (which is as it should be). Right wing politics today in India completely devalues the richness of the tradition they otherwise pretend to follow. Much as Muslim zealots the world over would be locked up first in any age of Islamic civilization worth the name.

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      • Deewar is in a sense the founding of a new mythology centered around Bachchan, with “786” as a kind of talisman. As such it is important to focus on the fact that Vijay is NOT an atheist, he has a quarrel with God. i.e. he is on the same plane as God so to speak (because mere mortals cannot presume to be on such terms with the Almighty), and his quarrel signifies that we are — despite the modern, urban setting etc. — in a mythic terrain, not a “godless” one.

        [Aside: The talisman does not signify a preference for a Muslim deity over a Hindu one; on the contrary, one could see it as God protecting Vijay even though the latter has quarreled with him (the “disguise”, i.e. 786 instead of mandir, is necessary to get past Vijay’s resistance, in the best Freudian sense of the “real” always being distorted in a dream); i.e. Vijay cannot secede from the Divine plan simply by staying out of the temple — although only Vijay is grand enough to entertain such a conceit]…

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  4. omrocky786 Says:

    Why was Veer ( Jeetendra) of Dharam- Veer Missing from this event??

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  5. I don’t know if Farah Khan actually misread the purpose of the original song, it could be a deliberate choice to leave the symbolism and only take the gloss. Actually i don’t see how she could’ve dealt with it when in her film, the situation of the hero is not the same. The only grudge i have with her song is that she called too many “has been” stars that nobody would be cheer for (i saw it in theater, and really people like Aftab, Arbaaz Khan wife and sister or Dino Morea went unnoticed…)

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    • That’s a fair point.. and you’re also right that what made it worse was including those unimportant stars. Desai does this too but his lesser actors are all recognizable for having occupied his films. So there is still a link. But also the lesser character or supporting stars in the 70s belonged to a zone of ‘respectability’ which has since vanished. It’s impossible to imagine that period without the likes of an Iftikhar or an Om Shiv Puri or a Satyan Kappu. Arbaaz and Dino Morea on the other hand simply assault the sensibilities!

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      • My comment on this video, excerpted from my review of Om Shanti Om:

        “…it is impossible to believe she could not have made a better video for the Deewangi song (featuring cameos from dozens of stars and minor celebrities) than the horrendously boring, formulaic sequencing of shots showcasing various members of the film fraternity cavorting with Shah Rukh at a party celebrating Om Kapoor’s Filmfare award. It is fitting indeed that here (and elsewhere) Farah Khan includes a fake applause track, evoking both the superficiality of the sitcom as well as the artificiality of propaganda. (The “manufactured” cannot completely stamp out the event, as illustrated by the hysterical crowd reaction at the single-screen I saw the film at when Salman Khan and Akshay Kumar made their brief appearances (including hooting from yours truly in the latter instance).) …”

        The complete review is here.

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  6. I’m actually surprised that you have read so much into a song by Manmohan Desai! And, why only this particular song do you somehow associate Amitabh-Raj-Abhishek(?) with? Particularly the handing over of the accordion…

    JJJ was nicely photographed. But I would contribute the presence of the stars to who was randomly available rather than a thoughtfully presented private affair of MD! (explaining the absence of Neetu Singh, Zeenat Aman and Jeetendra for the Golden jubilee of Dharma Veer)

    The OSO song is cheap copy. The stars just pose in a static line, break into dance-song on a frivolous cue; SRK smarmily roping in everybody in his silk suit with jarring repetitive music playing continuously for ten minutes!

    The 786 numerology thing is just copied in Coolie. I cannot place these many ‘connections’ intervening divinely to a number – sacred or not. It’s a film after all. Liberty of it.

    Interesting concoction, though. You should write a script!

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    • You might have a point on the stars. The rest of the connections are not as tenuous as you might think. Desai assisted Raj Kapoor. The latter was always propounding a certain humanism. I’ve just mentioned Chalia here. Isn’t it interesting that the religious syncretism Desai advances in Naseeb is also present in his very first film? In other words he must have been ideologically invested in it. Leaving this aside Desai goes on to establish with Bachchan a code through most of the films. There were other films of that masala period that were focused on the AAA kind of trope. But Desai took it way beyond the token gestures. Coolie though a far less interesting film than Deewar on any number of levels must nonetheless be taken as a kind of reading of the latter. One could argue that it’s a less interesting one. Because by connecting Bachchan so obviously with the ‘Muslim’ sign Desai loses the ambiguity of Deewar where Bachchan as it were is invested in two traditions.

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  7. This song was one of the rare occasions when Rafi sang for AB and perhaps one of the last few movies that Rafi sang for.
    Your point on AB and religious subversion is really good. Vijay rarely ever has any religion , he is more representative of all the masses

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    • Rafi has sung for Amitabh in quite a few films like Abhiman, Suhaag, Kasme Vaade, Desh Premee, Dostana…

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      • Abhimaan made it a little absurd in fact.. here’s a film about a singer and he sings in both Rafi’s and Kishore’s voices!

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        • Mukesh has also sung for Bachchan..

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        • Did Amitab have some differences with Rafi ? I have heard stories that Kishore had Amitabh had some misunderstandings and he stopped to sing for him. I belive ‘Sharabi’ was the last film Kishore sang for Amitabh. Whoever sang for Amitabh for later on movies like ‘Mard’, ‘Ajooba’ etc dis not suit well for him.

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        • Yes, I did read that Kishore wanted AB to act in a movie produced by him for which AB agreed but later did not shoot. Shabbir Kumar sang for AB in Mard,Coolie etc. But not to blame the singer. The music was equally bad

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        • I haven’t heard of these differences. But in any case Shabbir sang for these films because Rafi was in fact dead. In fact Desai who said he couldn’t imagine doing a film without a Rafi song asked Laxmikant-Pyarelal to launch essentially a Rafi clone (not his term!) contest. Shabbir was selected through this process.

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      • Yes. I had forgotten Suhaag and Dostana . But still rare . Incidentally, I liked Yesudas for AB in Trishul.

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        • Yes, but Rafi singing for AB itself was on very few occasions only, most often when LP were the composers. In Dostana, while Kishore sings all the songs, Rafi got only one sad number. It was Kishore who had sung most of AB’s songs.
          And Kishore was there long after Rafi had passed away.

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        • But Desai never used Kishore too frequently with Bachchan. This when everyone else was doing so.

          It is certainly true that Kishore sang for Bachchan most often though as the top singer of that period he sang most of the best songs. After Rajesh Khanna’s rise things were never quite the same for Rafi.

          Incidentally Rafi also sang for Bachchan in Benaam and Adalat.

          In general it is true that L-P had a Rafi orientation while R D of course had a Kishore one.

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        • True. Sad that R D did not prefer Rafi . LP used both Rafi and Kishore equally , so it was Rafi who lost in the bargain.

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        • actually in the initial days a lot of RD’s songs were with Rafi, before the runaway ARADHANA days at least.

          In fact in TEESRI MANZIL every singly song is by Rafi. Even in THE TRAIN, Rafi is singing for Khanna. So Pancham did not quite have a preference unless the hero insisted which is what Kaka began doing once ARADHANA became popular. KK became Khanna’s voice forever after which!

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        • Rafi was practically unstoppable in the 50s and 60s and hence perhaps RD did not have a choice. RD himself composed very less in this period. For most of the Dev Anand films, his father SDB cleverly used both Rafi and Kishore . After SD’s death, perhaps RD became more confident and used Kishore more .Whether RK insisted on the use of Kishore, I don’t know as LP seem to use Rafi as well for him thought not as extensively

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        • I’d dispute that Aarkayne. Kishore and Asha seemed very much to be Burman’s singers of choice more than Rafi/Lata. Recall how even his father had a thing for Kishore. Now Khanna of course wanted Kishore as his voice after Aradhana but already in this film Kishore has the very best songs!

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        • salimjakhra Says:

          It’s hard to say Asha was RD’s singer of choice when he seemed to give his classiest tunes to Lata, be it Aandhi, Amar Prem, Libaas, etc etc etc.

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        • but it would be hard to argue that R D saw those tunes as the ‘classiest’. In other words he seemed most interested beyond a point in doing fusion and here Asha did seem to be the privileged singer. Amar Prem is still relatively early and represents the ‘Bengali’ phase of his music. Aandhi is a later work and while fantastic is not completely representative of what R D was in that period and then later.

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  8. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0474822/bio
    There is the reference of the disagreement here. Am sure Ab had his reasons

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  9. omrocky786 Says:

    I thought Manmohan Desai and KK had a fight which was finally resolved just before his death and he sang Aaaya aaya Toofan for his film Toofaan.
    KK also sang Andheri Raton mein …. Shenshah for AB

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    • That might be true, I don’t know. But he was singing for Bachchan throughout in any case. Just about every single Bachchan film in the 80s features Kishore barring the Desai ones.

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  10. omrocky786 Says:

    Here you go-

    “I have two special memories of Kishoreda. One, that I was the only young music director to be invited to his home alone for a meal. And of Manji (Manmohan Desai) accepting my request to call Kishoreda to sing for Amitabh Bachchan in Gungaa Jamunaa Saraswati and Toofan even though they had some problem between them for many years.”

    http://www.rediff.com/entertai/2002/oct/14kumar.htm

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  11. omrocky786 Says:

    I don’t know how true is the following- Now I do need to get back to work !!

    Ashwin, PFC’s interview copy/pasted by SV, has the Amitabh Bachchan part edited. The edited part is in inverted commas :
    settle this entire business once and for all. “I dont want to make them (IncomeTax) travel all the way to Khandwa to collect my dues.”

    “PN: I believe you recently refused to sing for Amitabh Bachchan..
    KK : Well he made my son hang around for so many days. I had asked him to act for my new film. He was very polite but refused to say yes or no, and kept us hanging. We lost so many days. And why should my son hang around outside his house, his sets – just to find out if he would act or no ? So I signed on Rajesh Khanna.

    PN: And refused to sing for Bachchan ?
    KK : Only for a while. I later relented. Why fight such childish wars? Its not him. He is not a bad sort. Its that fellow, Manmohan Desai. He’s behind it all. I know that. He hates me.
    It is that fellow who has poisoned Amitabh against me. I know everything.

    PN: What has Manmohan Desai against you ?
    KK : Where are the friends in this industry ? Everyone has a motive when he tries to get close to you

    http://passionforcinema.com/old-hindi-songs-relishing-their-magic/

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  12. omrocky786 Says:

    Interesting Comment-

    Secularist iconography was a hallmark of Manji’s movies. Who can forget the backdrop of a temple, mosque and church outside the hospital room where Vinod Khanna, Amitabh and Rishi Kapoor donate blood in sync to Nirupa Roy in AAA? Or the John Jaani Janardhan of Naseeb? If there was a director who wore his secular credentials on his sleeve, it was MMD. And he did it in characteristic style. His movies showed the religious minorities as the younger brothers (the pampered ones) to an all-encompassing maryada purushottam elder brother (invariably hindu); thus outlining the demographic breakup of India in light of the 3 major religions followed in the country.

    http://passionforcinema.com/portrait-of-a-director-manmohan-desai/#more-7742

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    • Nice set of thoughts..

      It has been persuasively argued by some that the quintessential splitting of the family in many Desai films relives the traumas of the Partition period.

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  13. Thanks for the posts Rocky bro, made for some interesting reading.

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  14. omrocky786 Says:

    RGV has been posting seven part Essays on GOD !!!
    Fursat mein Padhna padega !!

    http://rgvarma.spaces.live.com/

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  15. By the way note how Bachchan does a Raj Kapoor before Raj Kapoor at the 5 min mark here.. as soon as Raj Kapoor stops playing the harmonium.

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    • there are moments in Kabhi Alvida Na Kehna where Abhishek also channels RK a bit — in particular, the scene early on in the film where there’s abhi-rani banter and he talks about dropping his pants (or perhaps actually does so)…

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  16. Kishore Kumar was GOD! He made Rajesh Khanna & Amitabh bachchan Superstars

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