Zero, KGF, and the rest of the box office…

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  1. New box office thread. Advance warning, any silly comments will be deleted. I’ve read all from last few hours and it’s ok as per me.

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  2. http://www.sify.com/movies/adangamaru-review-an-engaging-action-thriller-review-tamil-smvk6agdbcfid.html

    Both seethakati and adangamaru open to good reviews in TN..seethakati is turning out to be a winner for sethupati ..again…

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  3. This may the moment of handing over the baton. Eerie how all three Khans bungled up . I am disappointed in Aamir more than the other two.

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    • If they do so, trolls will be out of business!

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    • Aamir may get a lifeline in china next week itself.

      But lets see if srk’s PR machinery has the firepower to stand against the viriol and vile thats started to boil in that platform.

      The FDFS are all about fanatics worshipping their idol. The general sentiment flows over the weekend, thats what will feed the trolling.

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      • *vitriol*

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      • Even if the movie does well in China, I will treat it as a failure for Aamir. Expecting star power to carry a film without substance is sheer laziness on the part of YRF and the director and it is surprising how Aamir did not see it coming

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        • IF it works in China, that wil imply that Aamir overcame his laziness by putting in the effort to re-edit the film and promote it in China. Agree or not?

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        • He is also human. But success in China will be relished by aamirians. Just like its failure will disappoint them. Nothing to do with Indian BO.

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    • Aamir has more say via his self investment so I agree the disappointment is greater but because of this I expect him to roar back whenever.

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  4. Vijjie – Keep an eye out for social media for 2 days now and u will stay away from internet for next 20 yrs of our life.

    What goes around in social media returns 10X times. Its that bad, just cope with it. There ar no Jays out there to delete and judge stuff. Social media is a ‘free’ playground.

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    • The movie if and when it flops will flop on its merits same as TOH…I dont think any fake account or any negative trolling will affect any collection of zero or for TOH…

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      • Wom gets skewed by such trolling in mass scale. Anyways, these are PR games just like producer figures are.

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      • It has *some* impact. Some could be 1 person, 10 people, 100 or 1,000. If SM had no impact it wouldn’t exist. No one sets up such a business not to influence things. Ignoring SM impact, you will change your mind oneday. It’s impact is everywhere nowadays.

        But one has to judge it accordingly and make one owns opinion too.

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    • cmon..i was on the same social media as well as here, when JHMS happened..its nothing new. in fact i thought JHMS was a rather harmless film to be subjected to such hate. And I said it here also..my comments were dismissed as that of a fan..

      its only when it hits you, you will realise..as u did with TOH!

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  5. WOAH this is gone. Below 100 crores

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  6. Incidentally most shows in Hyderabad are sold out until Sunday except the early morning ones.
    Recollect Saket making a similar point

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  7. Trolling is the new mass entertainment.

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  8. BookMyShow …

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  9. BO update: Zero opens at 50% plus occupancy in morning shows
    By Bollywood Hungama News Network, Dec 21, 2018 – 12:24 pm IST

    Shah Rukh Khan‘s mega Christmas release Zero has opened fairly well across the country. Released across 4380 screens in domestic markets, despite the drop in temperatures, Zero has opened really well in North centres. It has got about 50 per cent plus occupancy almost everywhere. There are areas, especially in Rajasthan and North, where the film is playing to nearly packed houses in the morning shows.

    ZERO had got average advance on the account of bookings opening late in many centres. It is expected to clock Rs. 30 cr. on Day 1. The Zero makers have banked well on the holiday season which includes a bank holiday. This ensures a good opening to the film.

    Apart from Zero, another movie, Kolar Gold Fields (KGF), is released in five languages. Primarily a South film, it does not have a pan India appeal. The occupancy for KGF is as low as 10 per cent. Most plexes have shows post noon for KGF. But having said this, the movie has a great scope in South and will pose a great competition to Zero.

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  10. Koimoi

    Zero Box Office Day 1 Morning Occupancy: And finally the wait is over, as the much-awaited Zero has hit the screens. Amidst the huge fanfare, the movie has taken a splendid start at the ticket windows. Being a comeback of Shah Rukh Khan, the fans flocked the theatres to catch their beloved star in a different avatar.

    The movie has taken a splendid start in the morning shows across the country by recording an impressive occupancy of 45-50%. Talking about the major cities, Zero has stormed the screens in Kolkata, Bangalore and Hyderabad, by registering an occupancy of 75-80%. The response to get even better in the evening and night shows owing to the decent reviews and word-of-mouth.

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  11. Right now I’m perplexed with SRK to the degree I have more trust in Salman Khan not only as a star but probably an actor on choosing scripts! That’s how disappointing he has become.

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  12. Bob cristo Says:

    All said and done. Feeling sad for SRK. He tried everything. From Munish sharma(Fan) to Rahul dholakia, Imtiaz ali and Anand rai. Gave them budget. As far as I know SRK doesn’t interfere too much. Still they came up with such duds especially Imtiaz and Anand. Sahi kehtey hain “Jab waqt kharab chal raha ho to unth (Camel) per baithe aadmi ko bhi kutta kaat leta hai”

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    • It may have been the worst mistake to give these small time directors such big budgets. He shud have scaled down the projects and wud have perhaps got way better results. He tried in his way, but did not bother to get ‘down’ to the level of these directors …

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    • Agree but I don’t think one can absolve SRK himself of blame. He’s been haggard on screen for a decade now, ever since Dard-E-Disco. He just has lost heart IMO and generally he reminds me of Jose Mourinho. Resting on past glories period.

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      • And I’ll be scathing on Mourinho more than SRK. That guy Mourinho is a cancer! SRK is lost and this space film under his stewardship is probably disaster all over again.

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  16. Audience wom is disastrous.

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    • This itself is a nonsense comparison. TOH is by the biggest film since K3G. It was releasing on a post Diwali day. It having bigger advance is obvious.

      It use to be fans fight for best film or biggest grosser. Now we are fighting for the ‘best’ worst film? TOH is a flop so is Race 3. Zero let’s see.

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  18. Cinetrak analyst and ardent SRK fan.

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  19. boi

    Zero has taken a good opening of 30-35% in its morning shows. The openings numbers are generally good at most places but not huge. Obviously many Shahrukh Khan starrers have taken bigger openings than this film but this is a par opening for this film.

    The film is a huge release and easily the biggest ever for Shahrukh Khan not just in terms of screens but the capacity is huge and very close to capacity of Thugs of Hindostan. the only difference is that around 200-300 of the low grossing cinemas in small centers are not there for Zero and these hardly make a difference to the overall number. It is the third biggest release ever after Thugs of Hindostan and Tiger Zinda Hai.

    The opening in terms of occupancy is a little less than 2.0 (Hindi) but the release is wider and more importantly the ticket rates are far higher than that film which mean despite occupancy being a little less it should collect higher than that film.

    The film had a good trailer though Shahrukh Khan is a midget in the film and this could eventually turn out to be the USP depending on the content of the film but as far as opening is concerned it is a bit of a hindrance. The music of the film is good but generally songs which can look good in the film and no chartbuster types and then on top film has no action.

    Initially the only big plus was Shahrukh Khan and its on him that this opening has come and its come despite poor films like Jab Harry Met Sejal, Raees, Dear Zindagi and Fan behind him. The film is a growth film and that will depend on public reports but Saturday may not see huge gains as growth films generally do as its a huge release and maybe the release is actually too big for a non action or mass comedy film. But this is how it goes nowadays with big films going on the most screens possible.

    But it will be Sunday which is the crucial day for the film and there it will have to show a big jump in business to really get the best out of the Christmas week.On top the film seems to be catering more for the family audience than the youth and its on Sunday when the family audience really comes out.

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    • Wtf is this. BOI love letter. How many excuses can be fit into one report? LOL!

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    • So many excuses being ranted already!

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    • Growth potential is huge Mr BOI when opening is 35%. So stop the bullcrap.

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    • The film is a huge release and easily the biggest ever for Shahrukh Khan not just in terms of screens but the capacity is huge and very close to capacity of Thugs of Hindostan.

      LOL LOL LOL!

      Taran has already confirmed some 4300 screens for Zero. Race 3 had 4500 screens (also visible in the advance booking scenario where it had more screens) and ToH had 5000 screens.

      Expect massive fudging of first day numbers from BOI. They are also claiming ticket rates are much higher than 2.0!

      This is just batshit crazy response from BOI.

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      • I feel sorry for people who set up accounts for fake negative reviews, that’s the biggest waste of time here.

        In the end the Twitter feed of Obama, Putin and co reviewing Zero might be the better thing to come here.

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      • They are preparing ground for over-reporting by 20-25% at least. Race 3 probably pushed a opening closer to 25 cr to almost 30 cr as a PR gimmick for advertising. ToH hindi tracked day one of 45 cr, add another 2 cr from dubbed version and YRF pushed that 47 cr to a neat 50 cr day one. But Red Chillies is going to take all this to a new level now … with boi quoting 1-2 cr less than that for ‘validity’.

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  20. Then there are the scripted moments that make you smile in their subversiveness — the jibe at Muslims not getting the American visa, SRK as Bauua sporting the ultimate Brahminical symbol, the janeu, even rolling it on his earlobe when using the toilet and invoking Mata Rani all the time. It’s as though SRK is deliberately pointing out to some commentators and critics (remember the debate post Raees) that he is not just about embracing his Muslim identity on screen. Touche!

    https://www.thehindu.com/entertainment/movies/zero-review-honey-i-shrunk-the-romance/article25796480.ece?homepage=true

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  21. Highest occupancies around. Kadel is easy to break.
    I expect
    1) Defense of SRK at some point
    2) Don’t write him off bla bla bla
    3) Pointing fingers at others (already done that with latest tweet)

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  22. I am observing something strange here. Whenever I post a link only, the comment is not published. If I add some words before or after, then the comment gets published. This type of thing did not happen in the past.

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    • You need to gif it. Who’s todays dead horse? 🐴

      Zero in india or master z in china? It maybe padman in china too! Too many candidates for one single idiom in one single day.

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  23. Speaking of trolls … there was an army of them in 2.0

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  27. We should not write off Zero at all.
    The ground reality might be different from the twitter world and Media reviews. BH public review video is encouraging.

    Hoping to see Laluji review video soon

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  28. Top Openings 2018: Zero 10th – Baaghi 2 And Thugs Rule
    Friday 21 December 2018 14.30 IST
    Box Office India Trade Network

    Zero had the tenth best opening of the year in terms of occupancy and a Shahrukh Khan film should be doing better. The occupancy is lower than the last big release 2.0 (Hindi) but the opening day collections may edge past that film as it has higher capacity and far higher ticket rates at multiplexes.

    Thugs Of Hindostan is the biggest opening of 2018 and is the only BUMPER opening of 2018 along with Baaghi 2. Thug Of Hindostan released on a national holiday while Baaghi 2 was a a minor holiday. Sanju and Race 3 (pre Eid) took EXCELLENT openings on non holidays as did Gold and Satyemeva Jayate on a national holidays. The rest on the chart below can be classified as GOOD openings. Fourtteen films have taken GOOD or better initials and there is one more release to go Simmba and it remains to be seen what happens to that.

    The top openings of 2018 are as follows. The film opening wider is given precedence for ranking

    1. Thugs Of Hindostan – 65% (4700 screens) (NATIONAL HOLIDAY)

    2. Baaghi 2 – 57.5% (3500 screens) (HOLIDAY)

    3. Sanju – 55% (4200 screens)

    4. Gold – 52.5% (3050 screens) (NATIONAL HOLIDAY)

    5. Race 3 – 50% (4300 screens)

    6. Satyameva Jayate – 45% (2550 screens) (NATIONAL HOLIDAY)

    7. Padmaavat – 42.5% (3750 screens)

    8. 2.0 – 37.5% (4150 screens)

    9. Veere Di Wedding – 35% (2200 screens)

    10. Zero – 30% (4450 screens)

    . Badhaai Ho – 30% (2000 screens) (HOLIDAY)

    . Raazi – 30% (1800 screens)

    13. Stree – 27.5% (1950 screens)

    14. Sonu Ke Titu Ki Sweety – 27.5% (1650 screens)

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  29. ATTN: The public review videos across reputed media channel is very good with 4/5 rating for Zero

    This is very different from ToH where public review videos were also negative.

    https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/videos/entertainment/hindi/zero-public-review/videoshow/67191358.cms

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  30. Um it looks like Kedarnath will run and run. It can survive any flood lol.

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  32. Zero Occupancy(Day 1)
    Delhi NCR 25.1% (299 Sh)
    Mumbai 15.4% (289 Sh)
    Pune 14.0% (116 Sh)
    Bengaluru 41.2% (047 Sh)
    Hyderabad 53.1% (056 Sh)
    Kolkata 46.5% (075 Sh)
    Ahmedabad 13.6% (103 Sh)

    Time slot : 12 to 4 p.m

    Race 3 Occupancy(Day 1)
    Delhi NCR 37.8% (309 Sh)
    Mumbai 21.2% (328 Sh)
    Pune 23.9% (121 Sh)
    Bengaluru 27.3% (091 Sh)
    Hyderabad 49.1% (078 Sh)
    Kolkata 32.6% (070 Sh)
    Ahmedabad 24.0% (102 Sh)

    Time slot : 12 to 4 p.m.

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    • It’s much lower than Race 3 — as expected looking at advance bookings!

      Also, exposes the lie that Zero has anywhere the same number of screens as Race 3, except Kolkata!

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    • Saket these are not footfalls..they were published at around 1130am for the 12 to 4 time slot by boxtopview..so they are the latest advance position. you should also use bollytrick too as they publish post show footfalls too..so for example there could be tickets sold in current counter between 1130 and 1215 which won’t be included in these…

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      • Correct for both films.

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      • Why do you think things would change drastically between 11:30 and 12:15?

        And even if they were to change, they would have changed for Race 3 as well! It’s still an apples to apples comparison.

        Besides, just where are the screens even equal to Race 3 in any of the metros apart from Kolkata?

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        • Correction: Kolkata and Ahmedabad.

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        • Exactly. Assumption is same for both. Unless one is suggesting one movie will have higher spot booking than other? In the absence of proper data this is best one can do.

          Noida example proves how this number could be forged to 30Cr+.

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          • Jay I cannot believe you are saying this..you are an expert in bo..how can you refute footfalls and say advance gives better indicator of actual occupancy..I am.not saying it doesnr give but if you have footfalls why not use it…

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          • There is no data to prove your hypothesis, Krish. Noida is just one centre! And who knows if that data is fudged or not?

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          • I didn’t say it’s better I said it’s consistent. That’s all.

            And how can 1 city like Noida determine 25Cr? What’s more logical?

            Using that Noida data, Zero could be 40Cr according to producers!

            Every data needs to be scrutinised, Saket just posted advances at same time for both movies- that is consistent. How he uses that thereafter will give a clearer picture. I would like to see your calculated number too. 25Cr is based on what?

            Actual collections – what Taran use to give is best
            Footfalls is next but then you needa ticket assumption
            Advance needs ticket prices and spot booking assumption
            Every layer needs some scrutiny.

            Noida on it’s own will derive such a huge spread.

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          • Noida is one centre but by evening the guy will post data for many centres and you can make a judgement. And regarding fudging that could be the case with advance data too..I am saying use both data and not just 1 data..to give a better representation…for example in bms itself there are 48 shows of zero between 4 PM to 7pm but boxtopview says 40 shows..anyways my idea was just to improve your model. There was nothing to it other than that

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          • Ok I will see in evening then. Whenever I go to bollytrick it only shows Noida.
            Fudging can happen anywhere agree. But then it’s pointless debating whether it is 20Cr or 25Cr without submitting to a source or number of sources. I’m not picking on you. I would like to see how you arrive at Day 1 that’s all.

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          • Yes, will look out for more data. No issues with that.

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          • I dont have any model… But yes if saket can develop his model it will be great…its fine as long as he is going with consistent data for now…if we have only advance data now so be it..my major issue with advance data is always the time at which snapshot was taken..so if you take a snapshot at 1130 for a 12 to 4 block and take at 1145 for another movie it is going to throw differences and then it is not a like to like comparison…but yeah for a start what saket a trying is great…let’s see where he lands

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          • You said with TOH you got similar numbers to Kadels etc by doing some homework.

            You surely have something right?

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        • Well then how are the footfalls more in bollytrick? It depends on a lot of factor..by the logic you are using based purely on advance movies which sell more on current tickets will go for a toss. So something like G4 will never even reach close to a race 3 as G4 had poor advance but did phenomenally well in current sales…the best way to get a reasonably accurate system is to place emphasis to footfalls..there can be no if and but in footfalls …yes race 3 also will have current sales but at a multiplex in north south or east it is more likely current sales are better for a srk starrer than Salman whereas in a place like rajasthan etc it will be favoring salman more..I am.pretty sure collections in Bangalore south east and north will be better for zero unless it crashes from now..simply because these are circuits srk usually does well on day 1 and north because it is a ALR movie…take footfalls you will arrive at a better model

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          • I am.pretty sure collections in Bangalore south east and north will be better for zero unless it crashes from now..simply because these are circuits srk usually does well on day 1 and north because it is a ALR movie

            I will dispense with the myths one by one.

            In Bangalore, Zero has roughly half the screens of Race 3 due to competition from KGF. It’s not possible for it to outgross the latter.

            In the North and Mumbai, the two biggest centres in terms of the number of shows, the advance has been way lower than Race 3 along with the fact that it has LOWER number of screens. Very unlikely that spot booking will overcome a deficit where Race 3 has 2x the amount of advance.

            ALR’s best opening till date, all over India, is 8 crores. That too for a sequel! That’s how much clout he exercises at the box office.

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          • Yeah I forgot the kgf factor you are right that it 2ill be running at lesser screens here but occupancies will be higher as race3 was a write off in south..anyways I will wait to see what you come up..best of luck…

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          • Race 3 did very well in Hyderabad. That was in fact its strongest centre.

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  34. THIS syas it all !!!

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  35. Replicas Final Trailer

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  36. It’s presumptuous to assume the end of Salman, SRK and Aamir together. Nicely clubbing in SRK is disingenuous to say the least. His last big success is 5 years old.

    Nice trick whoever rip’ed altogether.

    That handing of torch moment happened to SRK way back in 08. Since then he’s been fighting to reclaim his throne. Of course Ranbir, Ranveer, Varun lie in wait. But till they deliver or someone retires you still see the same story.

    Just like it took Bachchan to retire for new breed to prosper – a seminal moment is consistency for these young guns. IMO SRK was gone a long time ago. These are just extended prolonged periods. Salman and Aamir have done their Messi/Ronaldo show for 10 years. 2018 – Modric emerged, it’s a bit like Akshay…too old to dominate beyond 18. A young gun like Mbappe or Neymar like Ranbir, Ranveer or Varun is best option. But as Messi scores a hattrick last weekend, the great one is still about. Don’t rule out Salman and Aamir still doing damage for 3 years for example.

    I’m glad for Aamir that he is bypassing all this box office stuff for Netflix. If that venture is successful, watch the cavalry join small TV.

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    • Agreed on all counts. Someone said today that Khans started existing from 1993 and all ended in 2018. :p

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    • Agree on srk..he is no longer a bankable star and that’s been for some time..Salman will surely give a big hit with bharat next year…

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      • I can bet that Bharat will not do so well if Zero fails. I know these are disjoint events but perception is a lot and “Khans” benefited for a long time by clubbing themselves as there was always one Khan who dominated thereby helping the perception battle of others.

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    • Akshay was expected to do longer than Khans at his own pace and level so he will continue for couple of more years and his fall will be more gradual because of his less high peaks and high velocity.

      But the “Khan” era will end if Zero were to underperform. So it is important for Sallu and Aamir to pray that Zero becomes a hit because a Khan in the fry will help the clan. Else the perception battle will be lost.

      The Opening of Simbaa is going to shock everyone. This will be second blockbuster of Ranveer Singh.

      In a nutshell, 2018 might be known as the year of Khan-Ageddon.

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      • ““Khan” era will end ” is primarily an indication of end of dominance and not necessarily relevance.
        It is not an obituary. Khans will settle done more in digital formats, tvs etc.

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      • Haha. I agree on Akshay. If he was 5 years younger he could have a ‘reign’, but right now it’s Lady Jane Grey type reign.

        I don’t agree on this ‘Khan’ perception. The surname has helped each throughout career to help each other in bad times. Salman and Aamir have ruled since 08 by any logical metric. SRK has been a beneficiary via surname only for a decade. But this chirade will continue till retirement as fans will always have hope. Hope is pretty much borderline miracles now. It’s Xmas! Season of miracles!

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        • “Khan” perception not only helped SRK, but has also helped Salman in pre Dabangg phase and in Aamir in between his long releases. They kept appearing, tweeting , jointly promoting, warring etc to build this perception for mutual benefit.

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          • Yes it’s helped all. But Aamir has 1 flop and he’s down with the other 2? Give me a break! Salman’s got 2/3 disasters. I’ve lost count on SRK’s recent history. But now we rip altogether?

            Aamir’s bigger than this. Script sense will always win or god given talent. He will be back. Give him 1 chance. Salman’s had 2 chances recently and many through 00’s. SRK is flopping good directors now. Aamir has 1 flop, deserves a bit more.

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          • Agree on Aamir. He is too good indeed esp on his creativity and sense of universally appealing cinema. That’s why it is all the more important for Aamir to do a cinema and not a TV series on Mahabharat. Just for perception.
            A TV series at this stage where Saif Ali Khan is reigning will give a completely different signal, unless the TV series is of the level of Baahubali or atleast GoT. Both i doubt due to the budget.
            Hence a big announcement for Aamir is needed to get the juice flowing.

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          • I share complete opposite view. Netflix will get this right. Transformation is always good. Aamir on TV might kill his cinematic career but it can open other options. Out of sight out of mind after a disaster is good strategy. Except he’s in China that alternative universe everyday!

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          • Quite possible. Aamir’s next will be most interesting as still nothing is confirmed as of today. And i hope it is not a franchisee.

            Salman is already readying for Dabangg 3.

            SRK and YRF may join hands for Dhoom 4. There are strong rumors.

            It’s the last resort to use a franchisee.

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        • Clubbing Aamir with other two idiots khans has always been a sad joke.

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  37. Once again it has happened. Only link will not go through.
    https://scroll.in/reel/906565/kgf-film-review-lots-of-style-and-not-enough-substance

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    • Maybe askmet thinks a robot is sending links.
      I will declare that I am not a robot before every link.

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      • It happens for me too

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      • For my my posts stop appearing. I then realised and also Munna later told that it happens if you have opened an email on webmail and satyamshot at the same time.

        It still happens. Strangely i can like a comment, but not post till i close the webmail.

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        • In my case I am not opening any webmail or email. I am only opening the source of the link like Times of India Or Hindustan Times.

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  38. Now its surely looking like 20cr to 22cr..

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    • Writing is on the wall. I feel sorry for SRK. I think Tony Montana said something very profound. In amongst all the hate for TOH, Zero was still coming. And it was something like throwing it an underarm bowl and still it could lose it’s wicket.

      Not a good sign this.

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      • Its futile to not accept the obvious. Even the most important noida center is only 70% of Race 3. Race 3 tracked 25 cr day one, so this is not even 20 cr, but 18 cr range. Its lower than 20 cr opening of Fan/Raees, but a bit better than JHMS’s 15 cr washout.

        As for Red Chillies, they can claim 30-35 cr in hope of more footfalls, but the writing is clearly on the wall.

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      • I still wait for the 7th wicket till switching off the tv. Here only the opening batsman has got out.

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    • This online trolling game is jumping levels all the time with ingenious strategies. Seems like a concerted effort – but it is open source code or funded by some?

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      • Good question.

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      • If these trolls had any brains they could become popular. I was told a 7 year old boy in US is YouTube sensation just by reviewing toys with net worth of $17mm. What a joke. Parents give him toys, he reviews. Other children love it, subscribe to his channel and boom he’s a millionaire kid! Ryan’s toys. This is height of ridiculousness. As a parent I don’t know if this is use or abuse territory. Clever nonetheless, don’t think these trolls have a clue. I did think it was funny this time though not vile like TOH, probably because people don’t expect a lot now from SRK. It’s just a big joke.

        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_ToysReview
        Kid is loaded.

        I guess in America anything literally is possible!

        This kids life must be bonkers!

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        • There are millionaire youtubers in India as well. This craze has picked up big time among kids.

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          • On the basis of what ideas?

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          • Sharing their life style,
            eating habits,
            parents issues
            friend’s issues
            school issues
            etc.

            The millionaire youtubers are focussed on one aspect and their followers wait for the next videos. Something what secret superstar attempted to show where a girl has extraordinary singing talent and become a youtuber. But the movie did not delve into this phenomena, which initially i thought would be the case. A movie is due now.

            basically they do it in an interesting way. There are several apps available to make those videos look cool, animations can be added etc.

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          • As a parent I don’t know how I feel about this. Who wouldn’t snooze at millions but at the expense of every bad guy in town knowing your kids.

            My wife already said if our child mentions Ryan’s toys he’s getting a slap.

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        • It may not be that simple. It may be rival camps funding this effort like Saket is implying. Or it can be a corporate entity flexing their muscles abt to show how they can kill movies by such anonymously spread out online trolling before offering such services to the money-bags. Corporate espionage happens at many levels and layers.

          Remember how Comscore tied up with Sanju makers to prove how efficiently, fast and accurately they can track/estimate BO collections than boi/whatever? These are publicity campaigns run to encourage subscription from bigwigs. There is usually lot of money involved in all this.

          These are not conspiracy theories but hardcore realities in today’s virtual world.

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          • Yes this is all above my head! Twitter is really something I find hard to connect with. It’s next level communication. Corporations backing stuff can understand, if big stars can be waiters at weddings anything is possible.

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          • It maybe even betting syndicates. Match fixing types.

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          • I’m old fashioned. I have children so that I buy them things not other way around. Something perverse here but entrepreneurial too.

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          • Betting is a Huge business in india regarding cricket. If the underbelly has started betting on bollywood BO too, then you may be v much on the mark. Srk himself is involved heavily in IPL for yrs, which earns more thru betting than by legal means. So …

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          • Take for example TOH. Everyone was sure that it will cross 300 cr. or even 400 cr. Some will bet that it will be below 200 cr. Those who bet probably are part of the syndicate. They set the ball rolling by negative whatsapp messages, twitter, fake polls one or two days before the release. The film ends up with less than 150 cr. They rake up crores. It maybe even an international racket. They may buy out even some critics and websites. Not only TOH but any big movie. Why 2.0 was stopped in its tracks? Why Zero received that kind of negativity even before the first show?
            It is better to turn to web series as the chances of sabotage will be nil. And star in a film occasionally if one badly wants . Dont go overbudget. Dangal was 70 cr. It would not have lost much even if it had failed. Satellite and music rights would have come to the rescue.

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          • Dont go overbudget. Dangal was 70 cr. It would not have lost much even if it had failed. Satellite and music rights would have come to the rescue.

            This is the key. It’s entirely a failure of economics.

            Judging by the trailers, there was no need for SRK to be vertically challenged in Zero. It’s just a proper gimmick, nothing else.

            Take this gimmick out and you instantly save more than half of the film’s budget.

            People who are not interested in watching SRK playing a romantic role are suddenly not going to turn up, in case he decides to play himself as a dwarf.

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          • Take the gimmick out and you may as well call it Jab Tak Hai Jaan 2

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          • True, but with a chance to salvage some pride Anand L Rai never made a big budget film like this before.

            It was too risky a project to begin with.

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          • Still if they play the film on loop on YouTube it could be a blockbuster.

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          • Such rackets (if indeed happening) cannot work against a genuinely well-made movie. But these over-budget average to above average films with big stars can be easy targets. Bharat may be the next big target. Not sure if Ranveer is that big a deal to bet crores on Simmba. But if people are making such money on BO betting, then wud want to bet more and more.

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          • ‘But these over-budget average to above average films with big stars can be easy targets. Bharat may be the next big target.’

            Let us watch how the syndicate targets Bharat if they want to.

            And there is that menace called Tamilrockers who can shapeshift.

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          • Tamilrockers are into piracy business for good … but they may be more than just that.

            Bollywood anyways has a lame line-up next year. Only hindi film i m interested in watching in theaters is Manikarnika. But there are perhaps 10+ hollywood films i am looking forward to.

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  39. The three wise men review Zero-

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    • Mixed review by the trio.
      Bobby rejects because he is looking for logic. 1/5 , 5/5 for VFX
      Laluji okayish as technically Zero is brilliant 3/5
      Vijay loved as SRK is outstanding. 3.5/5

      This reminds me of Happy New Year kind of feedback.

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      • Look at the history, bobby does not like khans and will give bad reviews, generally. He is a big time akki fan 🙂

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        • Yes, but they seem to be genuine despite being fans of one or the other star.
          Actually this mixed feedback is also coming from others.
          So all is not lost.
          I think this is in Happy New Year zone which despite mixed feedback did well. With Christmas holidays and wide release, Zero will get benefited. So enjoy the movie with family and post your review.

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          • Nah Man, I have hard time sitting thru a good movie, and if you tell me that a movie has boring 2nd half, then i’m not going knowing that.

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      • Out of these 3, I find Bobby to be hyper and very over reaction. I remember during Raees vs Kaabil, he called Raees flop and Kaabil MASTERPIECE he’s never seen in his life!

        Many on twitter posts nonsense about his biased but I can’t get into such nitty gritty details and post here.

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        • Isnt Booby the same guy who said Zero will do 350 cr? Neither he saw a different trailer, else he is a rocket scientist.

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  40. Anupma Chopra Sayas- I felt like Dhrisrashtra in JBDY- Yeh Kya ho raha Hai !!

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  41. Looks like I’m cancelling my tomorrows ticket, wifey can go by herself.

    Seems the 2nd half is really messed up. I just don’t get it. They do watch the movie before it’s releases, they can’t see that something is wrong and make appropiate edits?

    Everyone should stick to hirani formula, have comedy thru out the film, not just 1st half. If you’re making big films.

    Or, follow shetty formula, which are short and again comedy thru out or something like singham world, action thru out.

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    • Hirani is formulaic but he always has a story to tell. He understands a storybook, beginning, middle and end. It’s so basic. There are good storytellers. ROM, Hirani, Bhansali but like what Saket said once they get a big star it can go wrong. Stardom can be a poisoned chalice. Fans want to see the same thing for some reason.

      If a fan of Manchester United right now, 20 years of dominance/happiness/bragging is now opposite. I’m happy being a Spurs fan as in my lifetime we’ve never seen success. The chase is more fun than victory!

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      • But to your point, they should at least get some of the basics right.

        I don’t think Race3, TOH or Zero not coming out right is due to big star being present.

        Fans are not asking for “Give me a boring 2nd half”.

        Movies have been made with big stars thru out the history, think of movies of past like Naseeb, where there’s not 1 big star but multiple stars in it and all worked together nicely and not only that, even the supporting actors would have solid defined roles. In fact the big stars of past were more needy than of current lot because with current lot, they are somewhat cautious because a lot of them are acting as producer too.

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        • Agree. No one asks for a bad movie. No one wants to make one. But a simple panel of movie geeks watching a movie 8 weeks before release, having access to what’s been edited out etc would make huge difference.

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          • That’s what i had set yesterday, a set of professional reviewers, reviews the film ahead and then make appropiate suggestion. It wouldn’t be too wise to go back and reshoot but certainly some scenes can be edited out to make the movie crisp.

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          • What is this outrageous plot actually? anybody has any idea?

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  42. KGF, doesn’t seem any better either but i can sit thru action film.

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  43. What’s up between SRK and KJo? Thought they were friends?

    First he distributes KGF against Zero and is also releasing Simmba one week later!

    This looks like some deep rooted enmity between the two.

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    • There was a time around 2008-09 when Akshay had confronted Karan on rumors of Karan sabotaging Akshay’s films. From then on to now doing two films together (despite their first movie Brothers flopping), things changed between Akshay and Karan.

      On the other hand, post MNIK it went downhill between Karan and SRK. From doing joint movies, it is now at no mercy level.

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    • “This looks like some deep rooted enmity between the two.”

      I think so too but they produced Iteefaq recently together, SRK was also there in Karans last directorial.

      So not sure, but there’s something there.

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  44. My fav song of 2.0

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    • Been listening to this excuse since MNIK.

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      • They never say the same when a certain actor acts in Toilet, Airlift or PadMan. And they DARE not say the same when a certain genuine crowd puller (for the right reasons) releases a PK, Dangal or Secret Superstar. Since that’s “expected” of him all the time and when he doesn’t deliver, they mock and scream from rooftops as if its the worse than Kick and Bodyguard!

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  46. 100Cr is LT target.

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  47. tonymontana Says:

    The Ex-SRKian in me is sorely disappointed! The teasers were bad but the first trailer was good. kind of went downhill from there!

    There was still some kind of hope, maybe the law of averages could’ve caught up with SRK this time into giving a good film!

    This one, though, seems to be getting reviews worse than Fan!

    Believe it or not, this might well be the final nail in the coffin for the man. Really feel bad for him: he’s been failing left, right and center for a decade now, don’t know any other star in the current generation who’s been failing this miserably.

    Might take a lot to recover for SRK. I don’t know what’s in store for him, but he’s past the stage of even reinvention.

    The bets bet would probably be going small from here on, and doing less ambitious projects

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  48. Whilst Bollywood in general is struggling with new ideas, check out Fawad Khan’s latest Pak film trailer
    https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=331586627569967&id=276720296389934
    Impressive!

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    • I pointed 1 thing earlier, would like to repeat that all the bunch of movies SRK signed are 3 years old when he was in different mindset. Zero is also movie signed during that was also 3 years back. Its the last movie he signed and has NOT signed any new movie in last 3 years. This is the LONGEST in SRK career where he has not signed a movie. But the next movie he appears to sign is Rakesh sharma biopic which is sureshot flop. It might be critically good movie but it will not commercially success. It may or may not happen now. But it will not be the movie to save him.

      SRK should take a break of 1 year and then sign a movie or two. Either ways, his prime innings has ended with Zero.

      SRK is very good with directors and he gives them moon and stars if they ask for and trusts them 100% without much interference and then they get carried away and messes up the project. He’s not the star who can get ‘Best’ of the director but he’s be the dream producer and obedient star and give do everything to make them happy and then forget that movie making is serious business. ALR will never been on the sets and project where he was treated as superstar living the dream and snapping a finger gets him crores in a day. That ruins even the best of directors and this one proved it.

      Either ways, I have not watched it and don’t know if I can watch it over the weekend and by then its too immaterial to watch it but just might catch it to see the hullabaloo as I did with TOH.

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      • Well SRK’s kind gestures are misplaced. He should care about the audience more than whether Rai has a Giorgio Armani razor.

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        • There are no brownie points for being nice or being a good paymaster or the best resource allocator for ur employees (since its his own production) when u r continuously making rejected products.

          First one needs to understand his domian and the business he is in!

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          • cmon, stars job is to act! And being a directorls actor and not interfering are good traits! as well as being generous to his crew’s demands too!

            for all this big talk, the one who ‘shadow direct’s his every film just delievered a dud after two years hard work!

            I think what we lack now is good directors..and good story tellers. Even if stars r trying to re route their career and work with different directors, the directors dont seem to be able to cope with it.

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          • So Aamir is judged by only the ‘indian cut’ of ToH after all that he has done since Lagaan??? Seriously?

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          • seriously, what are you waiting for? TOH to make some money in china? that makes it alright? so its the money, the top spot, not the actor you care for..one or two more duds and you will jump ship!

            no wonder aamir is playing it safe by making mahabharat for netflix.

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          • Lol playing it safe? You’re joking right?

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          • At this point i am waiting for Red Chillies numbers … i like ridiculous stuff.

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          • no jay, I am not. who gives guarantee, next two three years wait, aamir film comes out , it will be good? I saw you asking questions about will srk ever make a good film after this? so what guarantee aamir has? or anybody else? its tough..its not like you can bring anything okayish, and have a somewaht respectablie way out..social media is harsh, anything half bad, its killed instantly.

            And i am not saying all of it is fair..there is targeted propaganda also. And in that category I will put all khans together. In whichever order anybody wish.. Akshay, ajay, ranbir, ranvir all r in safer zone if you ask me..

            imo, netflix or amazon, online is the better possibilty..wider audience, lesser chances of trolling killing it, greater freedom to work with, even if someone protest, they cant come and break your theatres. And no pressure of BO. I think net films make a great case for themselves.

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          • But how does all that make it playing it safe? Because SM still exists for Netflix. Mahabharata is a huge risk. Going Netflix route simply gives it a more professional backing than some Reliance or Ambani. One still needs to act or direct it.

            I don’t think anyone is breaking theatres for films like Race 3, TOH or Zero. People are disappointed period. They expect more for the price of the ticket. And trolling is part of the game now. The bar is always higher for those at the top.

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          • you think all these people spreading hate on SM are those who spent money on it? who watched it? there will be some, and other r just spreading it around.. who can counter all and say you havent seen the movie, what you say is irrelevant? they r doing it for just the sake of it!

            spending crores and leaving it out there at the mercy of some twitter trolls must be giving nightmares to many!

            on mahabharata, i see it as a great opportunity, once the time constraint is also off, and with the new vfx fully utilized, its a sureshot bargain. there was so much talk about mohanlal as Bheem in a Malayalam adaptation of mahabharata, but it seems shelved now.

            as a new convert to smart tv..netflix, amazon viewer, i love how some old timers like rishi kapoor are making most of it.

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      • I feel like someone has died that I was close too, sad day for us srk fans I’m in my early 30s I grew up watching him this is a tough pill to swallow I still have a bit of hope for a comeback but that’s just a big fan hope

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        • Word of advice to SRK fans who want a miracle. Firstly speak up and fill his Twitter page with resentment. The message may work. Otherwise patting him on the back for past glories or present business acumen won’t change a thing. Tough love works.

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          • Everyone has a down fall as a top star. Srk was the first from the 3 khans to go down, it was a good 25 years

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      • tonymontana Says:

        “SRK is very good with directors and he gives them moon and stars if they ask for and trusts them 100% without much interference and then they get carried away and messes up the project.”

        I dont know if its true. one friend’s friend who worked on the film’s set told me the Anand Rai script was very different when they started shooting. the story he told was very different to what it ultimately became.

        A similar problem was with Raees. SRK wanted it more commercial

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        • Its basically the wannabe-baniya mentality – ‘I will invest more money and demand higher returns’. How, why, what – who the heck cares? And fans will gloat that srk is a successful baniya.

          Harsh truth is that he is no more than just a wannabe-baniya.

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    • Sad 😢

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    • Top 10 actors of 2018 (BO totals):

      1) Ranveer (at least 400 crores)
      2) ranbir (350 cr)
      3) Akshay (350 crore)
      4) Ayushmann (200 crore)
      5) Tiger (160 crore)
      6) Salman (160 crore)
      7) Aamir (140-160?)
      8) Rajkumar Rao (140 crore)
      9) Karthik Aryan (120 crore)
      10) Varun (100 crore)

      Tbh it’s questionable if SRK can even break into the top 10 at this point…

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  49. https://komalsreviews.wordpress.com/2018/12/21/zero/

    “On the whole, Zero is too fantastical and hence very difficult for the audience to digest. It’s a soulless love story which doesn’t touch the heart and will, therefore, face rejection at the box-office after the initial euphoria dies down.” ~ after the usually reliable K Nahta’s review I am convinced 150 Cr is an uphill task for Zero despite the X’mas weekend.

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    • Basically their evening report is down to 20-25 cr range from 25-30% range in their morning report.

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      • Its basically tracking 20 cr if u read the report carefully. With that 25 cr figure they trying to give room to producers since Red Chillies tendencies are well known to all.

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  50. From the director of Manikarnika! NTR biopic trailer!

    [added to post]

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  51. Here is today’s China update:

    1> ‘Spider-Verse’ is the topper after spreading its complex entangled web.
    2> ‘Master Z’ cudnt topple ‘When Robbers Met The Monster’.
    3> Padman is a complete washout.

    Please check the details here for ‘proof’:
    http://english.entgroup.cn/boxoffice/cn/daily/?date=12%20/21%20/2018

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  52. Another idiot who’s lost it. All SRK trade analysts will be exposed in one go! Instead of paying them he took care of Rai.

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    • TOH is not by any margin the worst ever film made. These guys have little perspective.

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    • I don’t think Rohit is Srk side. Srk is not his fav and he never claims to be SRK fan.

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      • Ok apologies. I figured law of averages with billions of fans globally I’d have caught another one 😀

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      • “TOH is not by any margin the worst ever film made”

        I don’t agree with that at all and I’ve mentioned in my review that I’ve heard some folks say that to my face. I was like.. com’n, that’s not true. They were adamant.. I was like.. Okay whatever!

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        • So come on Master, does SRK turn this around in future in your honest opinion? I’m truly interested in your thoughts on this one. Can he get a hit one day, I mean one that a lot of people like? Or is this the end?

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          • If you probe too much Master will declare that he is leaving for good, then say this same thing 1 hr later. So let it be.

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          • Jay: Did you miss out my image I posted? 1992 to 2018? I don’t see any hopes for SRK as leading hero. Waiting for his 2nd innings after 5 years when he transforms into older roles.

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          • Hmmmm I think he will sign some films now. 5 years is a long wait for those kinds of roles.

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  53. Komal Bhai bhee negative hain-
    https://komalsreviews.wordpress.com/2018/12/21/zero/

    Read if you wish because there may be spoilers in the narration of the script in short.
    On the whole, Zero is too fantastical and hence very difficult for the audience to digest. It’s a soulless love story which doesn’t touch the heart and will, therefore, face rejection at the box-office after the initial euphoria dies down.

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  54. Movie is a disaster end if it lets see what srk does from here

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  55. aamirsaurabh Says:

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  56. aamirsaurabh Says:

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  57. There is definitely something wrong with SRK and his interference with the script/movie. No matter with which director he works it ends up poorly most of the time. Before it was flops and now disasters. Now he is on rampage to destroy director careers. First Imtiaz and now ALR. They have never given such poor movies with other stars/actors. There are multiple reports that initial script of ALR was different.

    Anyways Zero is done and dusted. Now let’s move on to next biggie Manikarnika

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    • I agree if he does he needs to back off guy has got horrible script sense

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    • wow, thats easy..imtiaz, anand l rai, all r let off..friend’s friend or anonymous source, always reports conveniently..and all blame goes to SRK!

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      • The only movie in recent times which SRK really interfered was Chennai Express and Happy New Year. I know this first hand. He helped some during Raees and FAN whereas Dilwale is all Shetty and JHMS is all Imtiaz(Srk in all his life has never played a womanizer till JHMS and its not a role which will find easy acceptance). Zero is almost all ALR and Himanushu and Srk helped only in VFX arena. He said in an interview, I didn’t want them to make SRK movie but I wanted to be part of their world.

        Even Srk might be thinking.. the screenplay doesn’t make sense to me but if ALR and Himanshu says its good, maybe its truly good as they have more connect to audience than me. So, he’s in a tight spot.. listen to his instincts (which are going wrong) or listen to directors (who goes wrong). As I said earlier that all these small time writers, directors get spoil with SRK productions and don’t deliver. Its not interference and every time its easier to blame SRK especially who don’t follow Srk at all.

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        • SRK is producer and actor. The buck stops with him. He has to change not others. This is cold hearted but truth of life, there are no freebies. I would question your sources because everything seems to centre as a staging for SRK being the victim. It’s basically never his fault. No one says put 200Cr into vfx of dwarf in love triangle. No one says put 150Cr into superhero movie. No one says etc etc. When RCE is producer, I’m sorry but SRK is the architect of his own failure or success. The CEO of a company at some points has to take responsibility of his own company orders and decisions. It happens in any industry.

          If fans just repelled for 6months, he will realise the path back. But supporting him like this is a self defeating prophecy. Aamir fans absolutely raged at him for TOH so much so 3 weeks afterwards he is apologising (rightly or wrongly). He is taking responsibility for his own destiny. SRK isn’t, he wants hand me outs or easy wins. I hope Hirani does not oblige as he’ll get ruined by SRK’s current hit rate.

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          • oh, so aamir was really sorry about toh, will he be taking it to china? and go there and promote it? what is that? pulling a quick one, making some money for himself?

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          • If you realise my point. He apologised to his indian audience and is accepting responsibility. In doing so he is correcting what he thinks went wrong so that a non NRI audience may find more acceptance. SRK is boasting about reviews.

            They both handle bad situations in different ways. Aamir is trying to rectify things whilst SRK is not acknowledging anything, he’s oblivious to it. It’s up to you how you view each solution. I know what I would rather do.

            In a nutshell what Z is saying Akshay, Salman and Aamir have done. Didn’t Salman have Reshma Shetty as an adviser on films that rekindled his career. And after losing her he went back to listening to his family and is now giving 2/3 disasters. Whilst Akshay employs Shetty, he prospered. Having sounding boards in big positions is not a new phenomenon. Aamir has researchers by all accounts. When he works with Netflix, be assured he will be better for it. I’m sure the professional aspect will be even better. For all the billions SRK makes he’s stuck around with KJo and Chopra’s, hardly inspiring. I never hear anything about RCE beyond a world class VFX function. What use is it without good advice. Employ some good people around yourself to protect your position.

            Every CEO, president, PM will not make decisions all the time alone. They typically employ even smarter people then themselves to do the job! They are usually better speakers or motivators or managers or leaders etc but rely heavily on good, structured advice. All this seems a miss on SRK.

            I hope you get what I am saying.

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          • Why the hell did SRK fight with Rohit Shetty? He’s the guy who’s given him his only bonafide big grosser in CE.

            Even Dilwale’s final gross doesn’t look as bad as his past 4-5 films.

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          • Who knows. It’s around Dilwale time, I guess a divorce scenario post it’s underwhelming performance. Rumours are SRK’s inputs conspired to it’s poor outcome but I’m sure Master will say opposite.

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          • Let’s not forget the fact that VKA didn’t have any pedigree to boast of before TOH; he hasn’t yet proved his worth as a director but look at the past works of ALR, Rohit Shetty, Imitiaz Ali, Manish Sharma, Farhan Akhtar et al and how their worst came with him!! Aamir’s collaboration didn’t affect adversely anyone from proven to debutant directors, most of the times it’s opposite that their best work is with Aamir from Ashutosh, Farhan, John Matthew, Rakeysh Mehra, Reema Kagti to Nitesh Tiwari and as a producer too.

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          • I could list at least 10 negative/harmful traits SRK has harboured into the industry and at least 10 positive/courageous ones from Aamir but I’ll be on a hiding to nothing!

            SRK has created the downside by in large himself. Only he can change it now. Don’t expect directors to bail him out. First make the right decision yourself on script and get the right director onboard. And just give that person 100% control or employ some advisers to advise you on this. You are loaded dude. The list of bad decisions via RCE is growing as quick as blame game on directors. These directors are scapegoats it seems, too many examples now. There is no smoke without fire.

            Follow the Mourinho sacking this week to understand what a cult figure who has lost his mojo can do to a big global brand. Arrogance is what Mourinho thrived on, ‘I’m the special one’. Such nonsense gives success but the moment you fail you are going to get hated on. And it’s worse if you’re smug about success and always looking at past success.

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    • simba?

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  58. Raja sen gave 3.5 surprisingly, anybody posted this?

    https://www.hindustantimes.com/bollywood/zero-movie-review-shah-rukh-khan-dazzles-in-a-strange-romance/story-SdQK5zHgA4ZTva8cNcJhAJ.html

    Shah Rukh Khan measures up. The visual effects lack continuity and he looks more like a dwarf in some scenes than others, his deformity occasionally more pronounced while he looks like a spookily smooth tiny-Khan in other sequences. The actor, however, glosses over this with a dominating performance and tremendous energy. Bauaa Singh is a severely flawed character made irresistible by his pluck, and it’s remarkable how much Khan brings to the part. And he remains the best lover in the business.

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  59. For Saket, Krish

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  60. The more I think I’m more curious Karan Johar’s behavior towards SRK in past 1 year. In 2016, Srk did the cameo in ADHM and also worked in Dear Zindagi co-produced by Karan. Then Karan fought with Kajol and Ajay Devgn who openly brought the fight in media by posting KRK’s phone conversation recording. Karan released book and claimed that Kajol will not be back in his life and how Ajay shouted him on the phone and gave dhamkis etc. KJo called SRK and told all and Srk advised don’t fight with Kajol and become friends but he was not in a mood to listen. Srk was not good with Rohit Shetty as well after Dilwale.

    Cut to 2018, he went directly and announced Takth (with no SRK shadow also in the movie) and he’s now friends with Kajol and invited both Kajol and Ajay on his Koffee with Karan show and showed so much interest that he wants to be friends with Ajay. He’s full on friendship with Akshay too now whereas there’s no SRK on KWK this year again. The day Zero trailer was to release on Nov 2, he had no comment on it but promotion 2.0 trailer release for Nov 3 as if Zero didn’t exist. Then announced Simmba (which he produced for Rohit Shetty who is again not on SRK’s friend list anymore) on 28th Dec which no movie has released in last 20 years. Still nonstop promotion of Simmba without any word on Zero as the movie doesn’t exists. Rohit Shetty has been at least decent to say its not clash and so on whereas KJo is so silently hoping that Zero wraps up in a week for Simmba to do great business.

    So, if anyone has been hinting any media tweets and trolling before movies released and any bigger hand in there, all roads lead to Karan Johar IMO. How can anyone claming to be close freind will not tweet anything about the movie from trailer to songs to release, anything at all? Something happened internally in last 1-2 years for Karan and SRK or maybe Karan is moving to greener pastures where’s there is money and success. Srk on the downward trend no longer interests him or helps his brand or career.

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    • I thought he tweeted some thing about zero when trailer came out?

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    • I’m sure it’s all KJo’s fault and SRK is completely innocent. But jokes aside it’s obvious from this timeline they are not friends. Maybe SRK finally decided not to do a KJo film while it coincided with BB2, 2.0 and gave KJo confidence that he can be fine without his first love. Basically this is good news for SRK, should have been done years ago.

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    • I dont think either kajol or ajay are bigger stars than srk still. or for that matter even ranvir singh is..he got some set pieces with bhansali, thats all.

      there must be something internal or mayb its just that srk is no longer doing his films.

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    • Having seen many episodes of KWK, I could see hints of him doing all these stuff.

      Same way watching Bigg Boss you can see Salman is a vindictive..you just have to press right button and he will unload on you.

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  61. Maybe Shahrukh should move to strong supporting roles, which he kind of already did with Dear Zindagi. He can continue on that trajectory. The Aamir/Salman leading role kind of deal isn’t for every actor. Perhaps they have set unrealistic goals for all middle aged stars.

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    • He needs to stop doing core friggin love stories and attempt good cinema, any Chance Hirani or bansalli take the challenge to revive his career?

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  62. Films like Tumbbad & Manikarnika put to rest the age old excuse of Indian film makers about budget constraints in order to cover up for the poor visuals (Ra.1, K3, TOH, 2.0 and now Zero). These films have been made on 1/10th & 1/5th the cost of these biggies respectively and yet look and feel visually superior and skilful. Even BB1 had superior and well utilised visuals and CGI (esp in the 2nd half) compared to the overused and tacky Vfx in BB2 and 2.0

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    • Tumbbad is awesome. Easily the best film of the year, at least as far as Bollywood is concerned. It’s a visual spectacle like none other.

      A film that can hold its own (and more!) against an increasingly formulaic Hollywood.

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  63. Bob Cristo Says:

    So Finally SRK entered Amitabhs Mrityudata..Kohram and Lal Badshah phase. There are many similarities between Amitabh and SRK. ‘Zero’ script sense in one among them. But Amitabh is Far-Far superior actor then SRK. Amitabh was 48 in 1990. SRK was 45 in 2010. Both face similar phase around this age. Amitabh’s main films after 2010 are mentioned below.

    1991 Ajooba
    1991 Indrajeet
    1991 Akayla
    1992 Khuda Gawah
    1997 Mrityudata
    1998 Major Saab
    1998 Bade Miyan Chote Miyan
    1999 Lal Baadshah
    1999 Sooryavansham
    1999 Hindustan Ki Kasam
    1999 Kohram

    So..Khuda Gawah is Ra One. Both overhyped. Took Great Initial then fizzeld out. BMCM is CE. Both comedy and Hit. Thats it. Amitabh reinvented Himself after Mohabbatain. SRK will reinvented by ????????

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    • You are so wrong about this comparison, I wouldn’t know where to start.

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      • **You are so wrong about this comparison, I wouldn’t know where to start.**

        Absolutely. There’s JUST.NO.COMPARISON.

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        • An Jo,

          There is absolutely no comparision with Amitabh and anyone else living or dead. And i am not saying this just as a fan.

          However i related to the comparison that BOB is trying to make.
          It is not to say that those films fared same. It is more about how Amitabh too fell from his HIGHs from 1991-1999 easily his worst phase and was a decade long. SRK has entered this zone since last 3 years post Chennai Express. Other might disagree but i think SRK was still giving good grossers even in flops. But Dilwale onwards, things changed.

          Problem is SRK gas at least 7 more years now because no matter what he tries, even if he does Dangal, people will not accept him till he starts looking different and play to his age in a movie led by the current superstar. Amitabh did the same and his performance matched and was better in those films even though the current superstar took most of the credit.

          So watch out for SRK in 2023-34. He is a better actor among the Khans so he will bounce in a new avatar.

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    • Even in his most horrendous phase of Mrityudata, AB gave record initials during his 50’s with films like Major Saab and Mrityudatta itself. AB in his peak was a riot and had far greater stardom than Srk in the 90’s and 00’s. Even his so-called flops (like Shaan, Shehanshah and Agneepath) would sell over 1.5 crore tickets, a feat that many of Srk’s Super Hits are yet to achieve. Despite being branded as an “Angry Young Man”, AB managed success in almost every genre, be it romance (Kabhi Kabhi), Comedy (Namak Halal, Chupke Chupke) or thrillers. Srk despite trying his level best has never been able to convince the audience in a genre apart from romance (the early phase of Baazigar and Darr notwithstanding, as the current audience rejected even that avatar of his in Don 2, Fan and Raees respectively). Even in his mid 70’s, AB continues reinventing and redefining cinematic charisma and spontaneity with films like Piku, Pink and 102 NO. There’s no equating them. Not a chance in a million.

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      • Absolutely!

        And for starters, he has won THREE National Awards since his comeback. And unlike Saif in Hum Tum or Devgan or Akshay, his awards can’t be questioned on merit.

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        • I don’t think Devgan’s awards for Zakhm or Legend of Bhagat Singh can be questioned too. He was exceptional imo!

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        • “he has won THREE National Awards since his comeback”

          This is the template to comeback. Change, diversify, act more. Amitabh did it despite having the biggest and greatest image india has ever seen.

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  64. Cheer up SRK fans. In a way, 2018 has been a watershed moment for a lot of fans. If it wasn’t clear earlier, it’s amply clear that content is most definitely, king.

    It doesn’t pay to be called King Khan in this era, but it does pay to be called Content Khan, however weird that might sound.

    And here’s the thing. With films like Zero flopping, it’s time for hardcore fans to finally gain their freedom. Believe it or not, you are now free to enjoy content-driven cinema and diversify your cinematic interests beyond one star. That can only be a good thing.

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  65. Bob Cristo Says:

    Oh Come on. I said many similarities not they are similar absolutely. I am just talking about AB’s phase between 1990-2000 and SRK’s 2008-2018.

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  66. Right, so I crunched my numbers and my numbers indicate a first day total of 20.04 Crores.

    That is, assuming Race 3 first day was 28.5 crores. This is the constant I’ve assumed for all my calculations.

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    • Seems like what most are saying. Kadels, Bansals 19-21Cr, BOI 20Cr, addatoday/bollyarena/bollymoviereviez 20Cr+.

      The 0.04Cr for good luck?

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      • The 0.04Cr for good luck?

        LOL. I didn’t want SRK fans to accuse me of under-reporting the film!

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        • Epic disaster, everything that goes up must come down eventually, time is ticking for the other 2 khans

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          • Lol!! Who asked you to ‘pontificate’ on other 2 Khans?? These 2 are not going anywhere at least for next 5 years, Shahrukh is in desperate need of a ‘hit/superhit and accepted good film’ more than anyone!!

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          • Aamir just gave a huge disaster and is planning on making a Netflix series that will take him years, he is 54 soon and Salman Keeps making crap movies which the audience has started to reject like race 3 and he is old too so what makes you think you the other 2 won’t have a down fall? If the great AB did so will they

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          • And srk will still be around for 5 years I do agree he needs a a hit badly

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          • And how many disasters/flops has Shahrukh given in the last 2 years?? He is not able to ‘open’ a movie despite employing every trick in the book from asking Sridevi, Salman, Madhvan to make a cameo despite the fact that the movie didn’t ‘require’ it!! Aamir despite the failure of TOH has set another record which is of opening day; which makes him the holder of highest grosser of all time ‘Indian’ movie, 4 of his movie are in the list of highest grossing Hindi movies of all time worldwide!! Shahrukh has been struggling to surpass 3 Idiots worldwide total even after 9 years & still you have the ‘foolhardiness’ to predict the future of other 2 Khans who are on a different stratosphere altogether!! This ‘cockiness & vanity’ has brought about the downfall of Shahrukh and his fans despite reality staring them in their faces!!

            First and foremost thing is to ‘accept the reality’ than keep living in your la la land where he is the ‘world’s biggest superstar’!! Until this happens, there’s no chance to make a comeback as according to his fans, he is still the biggest, the richest despite all these fiascos one after the other, this ‘mirage’ is the root cause, the ‘delusionary’ mega-stardom where he is not able to match the advance booking collections of ‘TOH’ on the very first day & his movies have been folding under 100 Crores!! Rather than a much needed introspection, his fans are busy writing obituaries for others!! Keep it coming as Aamir is the one who recommended Shahrukh’s name for salute; let’s wait to see whether Aamir ‘conspired’ to bring down Shahrukh’s kingdom or Shahrukh’s mega-stardom is alive and kicking!!

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    • More details:

      Zero is doing poorly in Delhi-NCR & Bombay-Pune — places with the highest show count. It’s way behind Race 3 in the two most important regions. This is pretty much in line with the advance bookings. Both these places never really had a buzz going for Zero.

      It’s doing comparatively well in the South — especially Chennai, but with very low show count. It’s about the same as Race 3 in Bangalore and Hyderabad.

      In Kolkata, where SRK’s popularity made sure he got more shows compared to Race 3, the drop is drastic. It has gone from 62% occupancy in the afternoon to 44% at night. This is clearly the effect of a bad WoM.

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    • Super stuff saket..move over taran..imo actual collection will be around 19…let’s see what boi says..but I guess we can live with it.
      Pretty disappointing last 3 months for BO. Am off for my vacation.. merry Christmas.will be back next week

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  67. IdeaUnique Says:

    terrible reviews for zero…..SRK has given flops with some of the finest directors now….what on earth he thinks while signing a film and why successful directors like Rohit and Anand fail to deliver with him??? baffling…anyway, SRK just got himself out of RS biopic as he already explored a NASA angle in zero 😉 ha ha – i think he still lives in 90s mindset…like Dev Anand, who could not move on with changing times and kept giving flop after flop….SRK is unable to get out of his cheesy-loverboy-i-can-do-anything kind of image……that is where aamir excels, his Firangi in TOH was a well-nuanced character with many shades…

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  68. #BLBestOf2018: Akshay Kumar, Ranveer Singh, Ranbir Kapoor – Here’re the most successful actors of 2018
    Successful actors of 2018 who rocked the box office

    2018 is over… yes, it’s time you accept that fact. And now that you have allowed yourself to accept it, we are here to tell you who were the most successful actors of this year. 2018 has been a year of content. If films had stories, audience watched it in hordes. That helped many actors like Rajkummar Rao, Vicky Kaushal, Ayushmann Khurrana get their first Rs 100 crore films. Even Amitabh Bachchan and Rajinikanth got their first Rs 100 crore films in their career. So this year has been truly educational in many ways. But never has Bollywood seen such an amazing amalgamation of content and box office. The films which were supposed to be made for a niche audience did crackling business at the box office while biggies failed. So these are good times and the actors who saw better times at the box office this year are.

    Akshay Kumar (Pad Man, Gold, 2.0 – Rs 370.29 crore)
    Akshay Kumar is one actor who has maintained his string of successes at the box office for many years now. Trade has named him the ATM of Bollywood because, every movie of his earns at least Rs 70 crore or more. 2018 began with Pad Man, a film which got major acclaim but didn’t quite see much box office adulation. Still, since all Akshay films are made on a controlled budget, Pad Man didn’t lose much. His Independence Day release Gold went bigger and earned over Rs 100 crore, despite sharing screens with Satyameva Jayate. And finally when 2.0 released last month, Akshay catapulted to the top of the tally.

    2. Ranbir Kapoor (Sanju – Rs 342.53)

    Ranbir Kapoor silenced everyone this year with Sanju, the highest grossing Hindi film of 2018. Post a few debacles like Jagga Jasoos, many had started doubting his ability to make big box office bucks. Sanju, a biopic on Sanju Dutt, broke many records for the actor himself. He got his life’s biggest hit ever.

    3. Ranveer Singh (Padmaavat – Rs 302.15)

    Ranveer Singh has been on a high since the past few years. With Sanjay Leela Bhansali, he not only casts a spell on the audience but at the box office as well. Padmaavat was no different. Despite many protests, agitations and violence, the film released last January and became a raging hit. It hadn’t even released at many major centres owing to the controversy but yet it managed to score Rs 100 crore and more within days. Ranveer is here to stay… he is now one of the most successful young actors of the industry.

    4. Ayushmann Khurrana (Andhadhun, Badhaai Ho – Rs 211.79 crore)

    Every year, we see someone emerge victorious and take you by surprise. Ayushmann Khurrana was one such actor. With two films, both bonafide hits, Ayushmann has managed to secure a place in the top 5 successful actors of this year. That’s simply incredible! He has a way of choosing scripts others might think twice about. Andhadhun had him playing a blind pianist caught in a mess while Badhaai Ho saw him as a son grappling with the fact that his parents have an active sex life.

    https://www.bollywoodlife.com/news-gossip/blbestof2018-akshay-kumar-ranveer-singh-ranbir-kapoor-herere-the-most-successful-actors-of-2018/

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    • Just for the sheer diversity of roles, movie’s genre, volume, and box office performance I will have Akshay well above the others in 2018. He truly outshone himself not only getting his biggest grosser but also being a part of two brilliant movie – 2.0 and Padman

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  69. SO zero day one is tracking only 20 cr, and that is based on Race 3’s over-reported figure of 29 cr. If one considers that Race 3 was tracking 25 cr till producer figures came in, then zero is 17.5 cr.

    KHMS opened at 15 cr and Fan did 19 cr. So this is some where between these two. ‘Bumper’ opening accepted. No excuses or PR figures needed.

    Btw, thanks for sharing your analysis Saket.

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  70. tonymontana Says:

    It’s SRK’s narcissism: plain and simple
    And he is delusional that that he is still a saleable star. Somewhere he is insecure and this reflects in his interviews, where he gives himself away when there are comparisons of him with younger actors!
    His answers are off-putting. People might claim he’s being funny in his disdain about others but there’s always something off about it. He is, in a way, very serious in dissing othere.
    He’s forgotten that the times we live in are not dependent on a once popular formula. What he needed to do was a complete makeover in image like Akshay and Aamir from what they were in the 90s
    And he’s no Salman to have that kind of mass popularity to pull anything off in a certain image
    Media and PR have led us into believing his relevance as a big star
    But to be honest, he lost that edge long time ago. All his films that even got big initials and ultimately succeeded were disappointing on a general level.
    There was a Chak De in between, the only exception I can think of since Kuch Kuch Hota Hai and Mohabbatein (yes, it’s been that long!)

    His films and the interest in them just doesnt cut it. He needs to fo back to his Darr and Baazigar days and reflect on what went wrong for so many years.

    Ok, end of discussion. Better go back to watching good cinema

    Thinking of watching Andhadhun the third time or Badhai Ho for first on Hotstar. Roma on Netflix also pending!

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    • “hat he needed to do was a complete makeover in image like Akshay and Aamir from what they were in the 90s”

      But is is not easy if you created an image that gave immense success. SRK has that image. Aamir/Akshay never had any image that was the only reason for them to give hits.
      Before SRK, Amitabh had a huge image, the biggest India has seen.

      There is absolutely no comparision between Amitabh and anyone else living or dead. And i am not saying this just as a fan. However refer to Amitabh’s filmography from 1990-99 that BOBshared.

      Amitabh too fell from his HIGHs from 1991-1999 easily his worst phase and was a decade long. SRK has entered this zone since last 3 years post Chennai Express. Other might disagree but i think SRK was still giving good grossers even in flops. But Dilwale onwards, things changed.

      If we were to take that it takes 10 years for a strong image actor to re-emerge, SRK has at least 7 more years now because no matter what he tries, even if he does Dangal, people will not accept him till he starts looking different, kill his image and play to his age in a movie led by the current superstar. Amitabh did the same and his performance matched and was better in those films even though the current superstar took most of the credit.

      So watch out for SRK in 2023-34. He is a better actor among the Khans so he will bounce in a new avatar.

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      • In marketing terms, when down and out in every possible way – politically, financially, career wise – Amitabh invoked his power of Survival instinct. These self-made stars have this in plenty. They don’t use it once successful but can invoke if drawn to the wires.

        Amitabh called Yash Chopra asking for a movie…can u even imagine. It requires lot of guts. I mean he had everything even when he was down. But he wanted to survive and more. These are not a common personality traits.

        SRK is also a self -made star. He has a great survival instinct. When he sense danger to his career, which i don’t think he will do for few more years, he will invoke it. I am 100% certain. Please remember what i am saying here.

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        • 1991 Ajooba
          1991 Indrajeet
          1991 Akayla
          1992 Khuda Gawah
          1997 Mrityudata
          1998 Major Saab
          1998 Bade Miyan Chote Miyan
          1999 Lal Baadshah
          1999 Sooryavansham
          1999 Hindustan Ki Kasam
          1999 Kohram

          If you notice, few of these movies were not bad. I would rate Khuda Gawah, Akayla very high among others. Lal Badshah was probably the lowest when he tried to be like a Mithun and hoped for a hit in Bhojpuri belt (which was then very lucrative but bhojpuri movies had become better). I still like them but now i know why people did not find anything new on these films.
          Amitabh was then trying hard to do diverse genres but by and large sticking to his action hero image.

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        • I agree with Tony. I think you’re missing some crucial points here. I don’t know Bachchan’s history but let me give it a stab and others can over rule me as more productive knowledgeable folks. It doesn’t appear to me that Bachchan had media support, awards, PR machinery at the go to get to where he was. It was god given talent plus hard work plus everything around him was the best around – writers, directors, musicians, singers, whatever! It’s the perfect cocktail and recipe for greatness. It’s like Messi having Guardiola, Xavi, Iniesta and all to make merry. But Messi even without all them still found a way to make merry! God given talent won no matter what. It’s a bit like an irresistible force.

          SRK has created an image of success. He’s talented IMO. His best ‘acting’ performances ‘some’ may consider as good or better than his contempories. BUT when they are randomised events over an incredibly long period THIS hasn’t been the key to his success. It’s the PR, awards (buying of), media support that has supported his good times, the network he built with production houses like Dharma, YRF, his own that ALL have pigeoned holed onto his romantic image. Such an image has a limit. To me the footfall analogy (Sorry to bore people with such things, they are not ‘direct’ comparisons just analogies) here is Jose Mourinho. In a twist of fate Mourinho himself is dellusional. His fate, status, personality traits are all too similar. He got success of his own back. A wonderful story at a small club like Porto. He then went to Chelsea and on day 1 declared he’s the ‘special one’. (Point 1. As young star both took success to head and declared themselves as great). He won at Chelsea, got sacked – fine everyone has a disappointment. He then goes to Inter, wins the treble (unbelievable. Point 2. This is the crazy period of success where both are ‘proving’ how big they are’. Everything seems to work). Then he goes to Madrid, Chelsea again and Manchester United. These 3 positions he still wins things but it’s clear a sea of change has occured and he’s missed the boat. (Point 3. Others have caught up in their own ways. New styles have come to rule the roost). Good PR is no longer the be all or end all. People prefer humbleness and cocky attitudes will struggle. (Point 4. Mourinho just lost the biggest job he ever had. He is a cyclical manager who in the 3rd year just loses the plot. Everyone else is blamed! From female doctors, to expectations to other teams spending more to his players to everything except HIMSELF).

          Point 5. Last one. Mourinho leaves and he says. I have a future without Manchester United and they have one without me. He WILL NOT CHANGE. In a world where Guardiola, Klopp, Pochettino existing and playing exhilarating football people, players have better homes. Mourinho is still Mourinho and SRK is still SRK but they both look like egotistical megolomaniacs to me. Some fans too. In defeat you MUST accept and not blame everyone around you.

          Now your big B story enlightens me, him going to Chopra etc. If true it’s humbling but shows class too. SRK doesn’t seem to have this option. Everyone is desserting him. His talent is overrated, PR has moved on. And just like I have Guardiola, Klopp or Poch…we have other stars, Netflix, Amazon. Alternatives and crucially better ones are there. SRK has missed his boat a very long time ago. It’s a Mourinhoesque decline – one where you need to step back and comnect the dots of how it happened. Why is obvious – combination of arrogance, complacency, not changing, stubbornness, blaming others, spiting others etc. The list of bad human behaviour traits is endless for me. The style of Mourinho no longer works. He can still succeed but he must change. SRK too but it’s no longer reinventing himself. That’s what Aamir did at 35 what not. At 53 you need dignity, humbleness, acceptance or a freaking miracle. Above all YOU SHOULD KNOW WHAT’S GONE WRONG BY NOW. If you don’t and your fans don’t, GOOD LUCK!

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          • Very well crafted on SRK’s arrogance and his behaviour which while built his image of success is now a reason for him slowing down. Amitabh at his peak was also reportedly humble. Though there are stray stories of his ego battles too like with Kishore Kumar ( a big reason for his success), Shatrughan Sinha, Fall out with Gandhi family, etc. Jaya still says that she never found a man as indecisive as Amitabh to which he too agreed. I am sure Big B was also human but yes humble even then.

            “At 53 you need dignity, humbleness, acceptance. Above all YOU SHOULD KNOW WHAT’S GONE WRONG BY NOW. If you don’t and your fans don’t, GOOD LUCK!”

            Bang on…this template needs to be used by SRK. Can he do- YES. Does he want to do – Time will tell. I think he would only because he is self-made.

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          • I personally graph SRK’s decline from OSO. Reinvention opportunities if smart happen while you’re on top or young enough to get to the top. Aamir has done both. Lagaan he was young enough, since then he graphed out small successes leading to a string of all time grossers to NRI overseas domination to China domination. It all happened slowly but step back and evolution has happened. He’s changed many things. Importantly trust is a big trait. Everyone around him trusts him, he trusts others. He’s collaborative, every production has worked, he has seminal moments etc. And now Netflix has knocked on the door with China and TV. Akshay reinvented later into social films and on his own terms. Medium budget films, safe economical propositions and stings of successes. Salman is traditional like a born rockstar and people have underestimated his stardom (me for sure). No one could predict this 2nd innings, in fact I would have predicted it’s length to be shorter but he’s still around. He’s still a big fish. SRK could have reinvented when Hrithik arrived (competition must challenge you, a threat is a perfect time to reinvent) or when he’s on top (numerous points like 98, 04 or 07). Even 98 I say simply because I truly believe this KJo has given SRK many things but all the mannerisms I dislike can be connected to KKHH. That’s a personal opinion. But everything that is dislikable back then is furthermore now. You just step back and see it. Now it’s too late.

            I see Bob isn’t taking this message as goodwill-it basically is. It’s free advice. I’m not kicking him down. I’m giving a mirror and presenting a path to outside chance of comeback. The GOOD LUCK is to his fans. This is not pleasurable for myself. I’ve worked for one of the GREATS in American corporates, GE and it’s down in the dumps (in 2 years a share price of $30 is $7). In 2 decades, half a trillion of value has been lost. It happens. A great beacon company but in an industry now dominated by tech giants it needs it’s own kind of introspection and reinventing.

            I’m not licking my lips at all. If you believe that I stick you in the same arrogant bucket your idol is in.

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  71. All SRK need to do now. Shun his ego. Do films like ‘Sahir’ on Sahir-Amrita pritam, Jolly LLB-3, Hindi medium type films. Landing cost of the film should be around 60-70 cr. Don’t use VFX. Just simple films with good stories. Hhiriskesh Mukherjee and Amol Palekar type film. He can act. He is damn good for that type of films. He lost viewers Trust. Even his fans are not turning for his films. I don’t know what is wrong with medium budget film. He has seen superstardom. Now time to take a back seat and should work in content driven medium budget film. For that first control ur ego SRK.

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    • SRK is a self -made star. He has a great survival instinct. When he sense danger to his career, which i don’t think he will do for few more years, he will invoke it. I am 100% certain.

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  72. Some very good points by Naveen while most of the people are taking sadist pleasure. I always say it is not a man’s thing to beat a person who is down and o.ut. I used to say this for Abhishek bachchan. Though he didn’t get that much success but for me he he is one of the finest actor and human being. So what happened if Abhishek didn’t get success. Only the films are not life. Just see a person as a whole and if you see Abhishek as a human being he is far good then the many successful people. Still people mock Abhishek. World is full of fools and sadist people.

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    • Amit Pandey Says:

      nice n true words Bob

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    • But is SRK even this kind of human being? The traits are so obviously not like Abhishek. Abhishek was doomed from start. The enormity or chance of real success like today’s superstars was very unlikely. Even if gifed with his father’s talent it would be tough. History for him was always going to hold him back. If he found stardom guarantee media would say it’s Big B driven for a start. His being humble human are basic things everyone should have. It’s just the stars we love don’t show this enough and Abhishek under the backdrop of lack of success presents these traits well. It’s almost easier to like such traits from his prism. Such traits from success may come off as fake. One cannot assume Abhishek would be like this if he was successful, one can hope and guess he would but there is no guarantee. Success can get to anyone in a bad way.

      If anything he’s lacked the killer instinct a serial winner has. But his is a complex debate. Too many if’s, but’s and maybe’s with the enormity of having Big B as father. Living up to a standard that you see day in day out is not easy! How many famous sons overachieve above their father’s legacy when their maternal or paternal was considered one of the greats if not the greatest. It’s improbable. Godfather 2 always happens once in a blue moon.

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  73. tonymontana Says:

    Its not being a sadist. Lets call a spade a spade and see the man for who he is.

    Aamir doesn’t live in the 90s and strike poses that SRK does in so many event shows around him, be it a press conference, an India Today conclave or a talk show. The reason People aren’t accepting him in roles other than his “image” is because he doesn’t want to. He has become what you call gimmicky to such an extent that it has affected most of his films.

    Have you had those Dr. Batra messages of combating hair loss, even if you are suffering from one? Initially you might be interested, but when you realize the clinic is overselling itself without any effective returns, you quickly lose interest. And then when you go in the market showing off to the public that you’ve warn XYZ awards for medical excellence, it only puts off the larger audience.

    I suppose going the Dear ZINdagi way is what he must be looking at. He must keep his commercial ambitions away, to be honest! Competing with Akki is out of question now, forget Aamir or Salman

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    • LOL @ hair loss. Dear Zindagi but with a bigger role. But I agree with everything. Truth is from what I see if SRK fans don’t change he won’t. Or vice versa. They are all stuck in a YouTube loop.

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      • tonymontana Says:

        Actually most SRK fans have moved away to watching younger stars n different stories. He himself is responsible for alienating those who trusted him once. Even Z has cancelledhis show now

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  74. No one says Sunny is successful bc of his father or Rishi kapoor or Sanjay dutt. Though Dharmendra, Raj kapoor and Sunil dutt are/were not as successful as Amitabh but still they are/were quite big in their time. As far as SRK traits are concerned one of the reason I am a fan of SRK b/C he has every human traits. Arrogance, jealousy, insecurity and he shows it. He don’t try to be pretentious. My limited point is when a person is down and out. It is not a thing MARD do.

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    • LOL so you like some untoward traits. I like violent or bad behaviour traits so Salman is great! Nonsense! If you said vulnerable or quirky or funny I could understand but arrogance and insecurity is not any trait an employer or consumer seeks. You are simply not getting it. Nor is SRK. GOOD LUCK!

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    • Pardon my own arrogance or knowledge but none of those yesteryear superstars are Bachchan. It’s a big big point to miss this. Being a cricketing son of Tendulkar is different to Ganguly. If you don’t get this I have no other way of explaining.

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      • What happened to Rohan Gavaskar, son of India’s first cricket superstar??

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        • A couple of matches that’s it. It’s a tough gig. Nearly impossible IMO. It will be a historic event when a famous child becomes bigger than a parent. I don’t mean financially, I mean in eyes of public popularity and scrutiny. If anyone has an example beyond political or monarchy stuff I would love to know.

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      • Yes Jay, I pardon your ignorance!!

        One fact, that all these experts ignore is this: Who, and where, where the directors available for Bachchan during his lean period? Veeru Devgan, Tinnu Anand, Mehul Kumar, K.C. Bokadia?

        Compare it with what the Khans have here! Kashyap, Motwane, Raghavan, etc., etc., who have the mind-set to channel into one’s super-stardom and one’s acting/innate talent! What choice did Amitabh have? MUKUL Anand was the only promising guy! And he died!!

        One film, just one film, KHAKEE substantiated the importance of Bachchan as a Haley’s Comet of a talent, and we talk of comparisons?

        For the first 3 weeks of AGNEEPATH, a completely violent film, and with NO affiliation toward family audiences, was running house-full and I got the tickets in the black-market, this was his power when he was supposed to be down-and-out thanks to the Khans’ ‘fresh’ blood!!

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        • Also Hum which was 1994 , I think . Saw it in a packed theatre with wolf whistles and all

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        • Mukul Anand is very much missed. He was a visual pioneer in Hindi cinema. It’s still a treat to watch the visuals in Hum, Agneepath and Khuda Gawah.

          Back in the days, he was the only answer to Mani Rathnam’s visual genius in Bollywood. The only one!

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          • Mukul Anand was a visionary in technical stuff: Yes, AGNEEPATH had iconic SCARFACE scenes ripped-off, but boy oh boy, did he have the verve to fit it onto the Indian milieu?

            Check out this kidnap scene in AGNEPATH; and how he utilizes Amitabh’s stardom; those few seconds of Bachchan and Deepak Shirke staring at each other still give goose-bumps; and in the theater at that time, ears were deafened with the surrounding whistles..

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          • The staging of this scene (many such set pieces are present in the film) is brilliant. The cinematography is also great. A few faults with the extras, but otherwise very well executed. This was Mukul Anand’s speciality — to make a film look visually stunning. He was perhaps the only one of his kind in Bollywood, back then.

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        • I think Aankhen was his most creditable role post his Mohabbatein renaissance, even ahead of Khakee. It was a delight watching him play an absolute antagonist without a vein of humanity, a role most Bollywood stars might shy away from (except the Ranveer Singh kind who’d like to explore and experiment).

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          • Family was a flop but I thought he was great in the film. There’s always something special about a Santoshi – Bachchan collaboration.

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        • Khans or akshay, ajay Devgn fresh blood were needed. How long can one man carry the burden of satisfying the audience? That is the nature. Today Khans are also are forced to give way to fresh blood like Ranveer, Ranbir. One will experiment with fresh blood. When Bachchan dethroned Khanna, he was offered everything and he saw the success that no one had seen. Khanna dethroned Jeetendra. Rishi could never be the superstar inspite of his looks and talent.

          A person can be the greatest actor but age will not permit him to play some roles. An MPK. a QSQT, a DDLJ, a khiladi, a Zhakm, a Bobby. Once the fresh ones capture the imagination of the young crowd, there is no looking back. They will replace the older brigade and they will get some interesting roles too because cinema evolves with new directors and new story tellers like Hirani, Mehra and the like. I am talking about mainly mainstream ones.

          Hema Malini and Rekha could not do roles that Rani, Kajol, Madhuri, Sridevi did.The young crowd simply will not accept them in lead roles. And Rani, Kajol cant do roles meant for a Deepika, Kareena, Priyanka. Alia and others are slowly taking over from Priyanka, Kareena while Deepika still is wanted by big film makers.

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    • ‘Mardangi’ also includes being ‘humble, down to earth, truthful, honest, sincere’ which are ‘anathema’ to your & your idol’s ‘Mardangi’!!

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    • Your ‘unprincipled Mardangi’ was ‘making merry’ at the time of ‘TOH’!! Ayushmann is the brand ambassador of real ‘Mardangi’ with his choice of movie not a star full of vengeance & vanity despite failure one after the other.

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    • Your ‘unprincipled Mardangi’ was ‘making merry’ at the time of ‘TOH’!! Ayushmann is the brand ambassador of real ‘Mardangi’ with his choice of movie not a star full of vengeance & vanity despite failure one after the other.

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    • People in glass houses should be careful before throwing stones.

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  75. Isn’t she the most beautiful woman?

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    • Indeed. I’ve always had a soft corner for Dia Mirza.

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      • Looks like that corner is a bit overcrowded. Madhuri, Alia, Radhika Apte, Dia Mirza…….

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        • Pardon the crudeness of the video in the political correctness world we live in.

          You forgot Nicole Kidman, Gillian Anderson and Jennifer Lawrence who I mention a lot. And I mention my wife the most!

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  76. Saket passes his first test with flying colours!

    Kadel congratulates you too for not inflating, only 0.11Cr away though, tread carefully!

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    • So basically Saket just smashed it. Within weeks, a model is built and delivered within 0.5% accuracy relative to producer minus any hypothetical inflationary measures by RCE or underlying data! So you can shove it to whoever says you can’t do it!

      None of this bs 5-10% accuracy!

      Spot on spot on!

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    • Jaiswal suggests under 20Cr, so Saket are you a SRK fan in disguise? 😀

      I await BOI’s litmus test.

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  77. Zero has under performed on the first day as to what was expected from the film but the number is pretty healthy at 20 crore nett. The opening day is similar to 2.0 (hindi) with multiplexes doing a bit better than that film but smaller centers being less. It is also similar to what the likes of Dilwale and Raees did on day one and the Salman Khan starrer Tubelight and all these are under performers.

    It should have got higher than 2.0 (Hindi) as this genre gets more crowds in the evening than an action film but that push did not really come in the evening. Most circuits are lower than 2.0 (Hindi) but Zero has that added business from South where 2.0 (Hindi) had a minimal release.

    The film would be out on day one if it was an action film or mass comedy as they are frontloaded and it remains to be seen where Zero goes. It will be of utmost important to be up on day two with an upward trend. If the trend is downward then the film will be in big trouble after just two days.

    The dubbed film from the South KGF had fair collections for a dubbed film of 2 crore nett. The film was decent in Mumbai circuit as it collected over 1 crore nett. North was a no no but it might have some chances in Mumbai circuit.

    Boi.

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  78. It’s very close to Saket’s prediction:
    Check out @taran_adarsh’s Tweet: https://twitter.com/taran_adarsh/status/1076338523274268673?s=09

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  79. Lol have any members posted their review of Zero or seen it?

    I saw it earlier today. It is basically two films. The first half is a good ALR type of movie set in a small town with hilarious dialogues and great acting by supporting characters like SRK’s dad, friend, and the shaadi.com guy. Not much happens plot wise, but it is damn entertaining. Liked a lot of scenes. There was one cringe worthy scene around “SEX”. I have never cringed more in a theater, and I was with friends my age. I don’t get why SRK and Aamir of late think the audience wants to see how horny they are on screen. And it always involves either Anushka or Katrina lol. Songs were good, Mera Naam Tu was the best and stood out. Husm Pancham was wasted though.

    Second half is like FAN. Completely unnecessary and a disaster. And a stupid shift of setting to the US. Crazy how now for me, SRK + Foreign location = disaster. I see it as him giving the Red Chillies team a paid vacation. Basically, the first hour and 40 minutes of the move are good. At 1 hour 40 minutes is basically when SRK realizes he loves Anushka and goes back to her. At that point, they should have just had a 20 minute resolution, and ended the film at 2 hours like a normal ALR film. But no, that is too logical, so they inserted an ENTIRE space training montage that was 30 minutes. It’s like Red Chillies used the second half of Zero to practice for the Rakesh Sharma film, showing all the space training and rocket launches. Katrina-SRK story is rushed, although I liked them on screen more than SRK-Anushka. All those cameos are a waste. Everyone gets 2 irrelevant lines. The SRK-Salman song was a complete waste, it was just random. It was like in the past when you had a song right after intermission because people still aren’t back in their seats.

    Acting wise, SRK was very enjoyable, classic SRK. The man has screen presence. Of late, SRK has been playing shitty characters. They’re all dicks. This one, the JHMS one, superstar in FAN, HNY, even Raees. He needs to play people who aren’t assholes like in Dear Zindagi lol. Why would anyone want to root for his characters or sympathize with them? Also, I closed my eyes for a second, and thought I was watching Gaurav for FAN or the alter ego from RNBDJ. Same voice modulation, accent, etc lol. Katrina did really well, but it’s not going to be a Cocktail moment for her. She looked great though. Anushka was so damn annoying, I couldn’t stand her. Her acting was annoying as was her character. There was no need for her to have Cerebral Palsy. Anushka can’t pull off real acting like that! They should have just made her handicapped tbh. It would have made the film shorter too. Madhavan is good in his cameo, and Abhay Deol just plays a generic multiplex actor. VFX, sets etc were all excellent as they usually are in Red Chillies films, but script, story, and conviction were also poor, as they are in Red Chillies films. Instead of a 200 crores budget and 3 hours long, this should have been 100 crores and 2 hours.

    All in all, 4/5 first half and 1/5 second half. Overall, 2.5/5. Better than JHMS at least lol. But seriously, how hard is it to show your film to 5 other people?? Anyone would have told them the second half was garbage. I’m sure they could have edited the material they had to at least salvage the second half, instead of ruining the whole film. This gives me no hope for the Rakesh Sharma film. The space scenes in this film were so boring, I saw people falling asleep. The Rakesh Sharma director is an unknown random, and giving him 250 crores will end poorly. Only thing that gives me some hope is that Ronnie and Siddharth Roy Kapoor are co-producing this. Small time directors may loose all sensibilities when directing SRK, but I’m sure those 2 producers won’t make the same mistake, especially when it’s their money on the line too.

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  80. tonymontana Says:

    20 crores with screen count almost as much as TOH!

    Srk is not a superstar

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  81. Shah Rukh Khan confirms Aamir Khan will play Krishna in Mahabharata, says he wanted the role too
    Shah Rukh Khan said in an interview that he would like to play Krishna in future but added that Aamir Khan has already taken up the role in Mahabharata.
    https://www.hindustantimes.com/bollywood/shah-rukh-khan-confirms-aamir-khan-will-play-krishna-in-mahabharata-says-he-wanted-the-role-too/story-4elj4WnthaSBmZsaYUWjoO.html

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  82. https://www.addatoday.com/2018/12/zero-saturday-2nd-day-collection-update.html?m=1

    Drops. TOH deja vu.

    My friend Kadel has reported a drop.

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  83. https://www.hindustantimes.com/bollywood/zero-box-office-day-1-shah-rukh-khan-s-film-opens-at-rs-20-crore-performs-lower-than-the-expectations/story-qHbgVHhI7dhA0YWvm93KUJ.html

    However, he had also spoken about the effect the Kannada film KGF might have on Zero, “Thugs of Hindostan released day after Diwali, the biggest day for a movie business. That was a national holiday. Zero is releasing on a regular working Friday. Not only this, the significant Kannada film KGF is also releasing on the same day and will take substantial number of screens and shows. So, even that makes a difference.”

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  84. Priyanka Chopra, Nick Jonas to host wedding reception in Los Angeles, Meghan Markle and Dwayne Johnson invited
    Priyanka Chopra, Nick Jonas are said to throw their fourth wedding reception in Los Angeles for their Hollywood friends. Priyanka’s close friend Meghan Markle is expected to attend the event.

    https://www.hindustantimes.com/bollywood/priyanka-chopra-nick-jonas-to-host-wedding-reception-in-los-angeles-meghan-markle-and-dwayne-johnson-invited/story-gscMQPGPGb5JQDiCVkHLUI.html

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  85. While I agree that JHMS bashing was somewhat unfair, Zero bashing is not. It is too close to TOH butchering and mocking.
    I have not actively participated in bashing either JHMS or Zero. But I understand the feelings. I was defensive rather than aggressive most of the time.

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  87. ZERO

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  88. https://scroll.in/reel/836691/there-is-a-reason-why-yash-is-rocking-venkat-is-a-fish-and-srinivasan-is-well-a-coconut

    Delhi Ganesh He has played a character artist in numerous Tamil films and television serials. The prefix dates back to the years before he became an actor and was working with the Indian Air Force in Delhi. Ganesh used to act in stage productions and one-act shows for Army soldiers. After 10 years in Delhi, he migrated to Chennai and began his acting career. “I started acting in dramas in the evenings in Chennai,” Ganesh said in an interview. “Director K Balachander saw my performance…he liked my acting and introduced me to films. Since I started acting in Delhi, KB Sir named me Delhi Ganesh.”

    Sivaji Ganesan Villupuram Chinnaiah Ganesan fled home as a child to be a theatre artist. The prefix Sivaji was bestowed by Tamil activist and politician EV Periyar in 1946 after Ganesan played the Maratha king Shivaji in the play Sivaji Kanda Hindu Rajyam.

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  90. The highly anticipated last ‘Khan’ movie of the year – Zero starring none other than Shah Rukh Khan along with Katrina Kaif & Anushka Sharma has finally hit the theatre screens yesterday and things don’t seem to have gone very well! The Aanand L. Rai directorial has received mix response from the critics as well as the audiences and that clearly is affecting the box office numbers.

    Talking about today’s morning occupancy, it registers around 30-40% of the cinema halls. It has unfortunately seen a drop as the occupancy laid in the range of 45-50% yesterday. Moreover, today being a Saturday – the percentage should’ve only risen up for things to work as expected but alas! No wonder the word-of-mouth is playing the lead role in this case as a major chunk of the audience consists of those who felt disappointed after watching the movie.

    https://www.koimoi.com/box-office/zero-box-office-day-2-morning-occupancy-witnesses-a-drop/

    koimoi was and is promoting this film by giving glowing reviews and best support. While the same reviewer gave such a bad review for Toh. Kuch to kichdi pak raha hai.

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  91. SCOOP: Bobby Deol to make debut on digital platform with India Strikes
    ByBollywood Hungama News NetworkDec 22, 2018 – 12:24 pm IST

    http://www.bollywoodhungama.com/news/bollywood/scoop-bobby-deol-make-debut-digital-platform-india-strikes/

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  92. https://boxofficeindia.com/report-details.php?articleid=4546

    ₹ 12.5 Cr in Karnataka alone is a monumental number. Its at par with a lot of star studded Hindi films at a pan India level. Once again makes you question where Bollywood film makers are going wrong. If a regional Kannada film manages to collect >100 Cr nett in Karnataka alone, Bollywood biggies should ideally be nothing short of 500-600 Cr nett pan India considering the reach of the Hindi language.

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    • link?

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    • KGF trailers was a lot better than zero trailer. Is it surprising that KGF opened at 18 cr and producer figures of Zero is just 20 cr? Take into account Red Chillies’ record and the opening is perhaps in 17-18 cr range only (Saket’s analysis points to that too, if we take into account the 25 cr ‘tracked’ for Race 3 day one disclaiming its producer figure).

      As per reviews, KGF looks good but story is stale. So 100 cr is not given at this point. But nor is zero getting to that landmark. Meanwhile, Simmba will sail thru (even if KJo/Shetty funded zero trolling). But instead of blaming Kjo/whoever, the main problem lies in making a weak film in zero.

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      • KGF is being adored by the audiences in Karnataka, esp here in Bangalore. It has good chances of crossing 100 Cr in Karnataka alone. Anything apart from this is an added bonus. If Simmba ends up being a damp squib, KGF Hindi would be the biggest beneficiary, giving it an extended run and a shot at 50 Cr lifetime in the Hindi version. This for sure is the Baahubali of Kannada cinema which in itself was the Sholay moment of Telugu cinema.

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  93. A top male star who’d verbally committed to starring in a mini-series about the relationship between a spiritual guru and his devotee may not end up starring in the show after all. According to sources, the actor was fascinated by the true story of the guru and the impact he seemed to have on this married woman who went on to become his biggest ally. He agreed in principle when a young filmmaker approached him to take the role, but insisted he could only make a firm commitment after the script was ready. It helped that the director had managed to rope in the most sought-after young actress for the other role. The actor was keen to work with her.

    But the project reportedly came close to falling apart when the actor quoted a fee so high that it scared off the international streaming giant that will bankroll the show. One learns that the actor is unwilling to budge on his price. The streaming company has asked the writer- director to go ahead and complete the script anyway because it is still interested in the project. Which means there’s a good chance they will try to rope in a different actor to take the lead.

    The same streaming company lost another credible artist recently because the producers of a hit series on its platform were unwilling to shell out the big bucks she asked for to star in the second season of the show. The actress, regarded as one of India’s best, was approached for a key role, but the offer was recalled once they discovered she wouldn’t come for a dime. The actress has told friends privately that she liked the part and would’ve taken the job, but expected to be paid a fee that was commensurate with her position. She realised the producers were hoping she’d do it for a pittance since most actors would give an arm or a leg to be on the show. But no, that wasn’t going to work for her.

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    • Osho was never happening, no matter how much the makers want to make it. Aamir quoted a high price for Osho series and cited #MeToo to get out of both Osho and Gulshan Kumar biopic. After TOH debacle he is not interested in such projects.

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  94. Bob cristo Says:

    Some points
    1- I clearly mentioned that Dharmendra in not Amitabh but still was a very big star.
    2- Every human has different traits. So what’s wrong with arrogance if you don’t harm others?
    3- Aamir was not down and out in ToH time if many thinks so that his and SRK’s position is same then fine.
    4- Though Aamir was not down at the time of ToH still if someone can dig my comment where I mocked him or took sadist pleasure I am man enough to own my mistake and say sorry. Pls some one dig my old comment where I mocked Aamir.

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    • 1 I know. But it’s a completely different context. In any field 1st and 2nd is close but 1st carries significance. It’s a mentality thing. It’s not putting someone like Dharmendra down or pushing Bachchan even higher. It’s just very different.
      2 You feel SRK’s arrogance hasn’t harmed anyone? The very definition of arrogance is “unpleasantly proud and behaving as if you are more important than, or knowmore than, other people:” – does it sound pleasant or positive when the definition itself has ‘unpleasantly’! That’s just one definition; but SRK has humour, quirky etc. Arrogance or haughtyness is nothing pleasant at all! (Arrogance is overbearing pride or haughtiness. If your friends are constantly complaining about your arrogance, you might want to lose the haughty attitude and try to be more humble. – another definition). I think you mean confidence rather than arrogance.
      3 He wasn’t down. One flop though was enough to flip and jolt a lot of people.
      4 I don’t think anyone is targeting you for saying things in this instance or from back then so nothing to apologise for.

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  95. tonymontana Says:

    A slap in the face of BOI yet again who penned a disgusting article about European cinema being hit hard this year. Looking at the films which have done well this year and those which haven’t, they’re reduced to a freaking joke again!

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  96. tonymontana Says:

    Can Zero cross Andhadhun lifetime business?

    Let’s see!

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  97. The fate of Race3/TOH/Zero has proven that streaming platforms have finally broken the back of Bwood. In the last 12-18 months, Netflix/Amazon et al have steadily increased original Hindi content offerings; and unsurprisingly, we see the demise of avg to below avg movies. Also, observe that only the success of content driven bwood cinema has increased, so called European Cinemas as per BOI.
    No wonder the likes of BOI are hammer n tongs against steaming platforms. They provide an alternative for entertainment at a tiny percentage of the cost of a single bwood ticket. Why would anyone want to spend Rs 1000+ for the theater outing of a family of 4?
    Social Media is just an information source, to gauge what to expect. One can hardly blame trolls for movie debacles. If there were no alternatives in Streaming, even the worst SM reviews wouldnt prevent a person from venturing into a theater.
    However, a movie better be superlative in order to rake anything over 100crs now. Otherwise, there are tones of avg to below avg offerrings on Streaming platforms, that one can watch in the palm of your hand anytime/anywhere.

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    • Nykavi:

      What is f@#$%^ up is this disgusting favoritism toward Netflix and its ilk as though it’s some kind of relief toward some freedom-of-expression! Pray, can you tell me what’s the big achievement of NETFLIX in Inida except liberal usage of mo-fo and be-cho?
      Seriously, I mean!!

      I am completely against Aamir’s fucked up idea of using NETFLIX for a prolific epic as epic as MAHABHARATHA!!

      Dude, this is something that needs to be HERALDED to the world! If Wolfgang Peterson can do it with TROY, you need to collaborate, use your business instincts, give it the platform it deserves, and expose it!!

      If Iliad and Odessey deserve a Hollywood platform, and a fantastic big-screen experience, so do MAHABHARATA and RAMAYAN God-dammit! It’s pathetic to restrict it to NETFLIX!!

      What the hell are you bringing to the table that Chopra and Reza didn’t? Technology? Then go all the way!! Give this epic the iconic status is deserves!!

      Netflix!! pathetic!!

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      • I totally agree with An Jo.

        I will be disappointed if Mahabharat doesn’t come in large screen.

        I would like Rajamouli to immediately announce because a netflix will make the epic story television based again. BR Chopra’s epic will be difficult to match anyway.

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        • BR Chopra’s epic will be difficult to match anyway.

          On the contrary, it will be quite easy to match. It’s quite tacky by today’s standards. It can be easily improved upon, given the right choices in terms of writing and direction.

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          • Tacky if you are talking about war sequences.
            The teachings, messaging, starcast is still etched permanently which is not easy to change.
            Fitting stars to fit the role rather than fitting the role on the star is not easy. BR Chopra was able to do it to a great deal. He almost used his lifetime savings on this epic only to become legendary.

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          • There were no stars in B R Chopra’s version. He made it with unknown faces, save for a Puneet Issar who wasn’t that famous anyway.

            The acting too was melodramatic and over the top.

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          • It was good for its time. It’s not good for the new generation anymore.

            Like most things, it needs a face uplift, most importantly, but also an upgrade in terms of writing and thematic exploration.

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          • Yes, on big screen 🙂
            It will come on netflix any way few months later.

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      • I can understand many here dont watch movie in theatre and do so later on streaming channels and love to give their reviews then. But i am not interested in those people. I am a big cinema person and watch netflix for its TV series and other languages, which i cannot watch on big cinema.

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      • With Netflix though, there is a crossover audience. With just cinema, there isn’t.

        Sacred Games is a hit not just in India but worldwide. Two out of Three of its viewings have come from outside India!

        I vastly prefer watching movies (and shows) in the comfort of my room. With Television prices being down and all, 65 inch TVs will be quite inexpensive soon. there’s not much to the theatre experience anyway.

        There are no crying babies or people flipping through their mobile phones when the lights are down in theatres either.

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      • MB belongs on the big screen and Aamir loves cinema, the big screen. He once said that if nothing goes on in the film business he would still want to sell tickets…

        Problem is that the Indian audience currently an MB of Aamir in the cinemas will not tolerate. They want it from the south, like Bahubali, and they reject it from Bollywood and especially from a socially critical Muslim. So Aamir remains no choice.

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        • After Padmaavat, everyone is cautious. Aamir should abandon MB altogether. He can go for small, meaningful films like Secret Superstar, TZP which can be understood by even ordinary audience. Release them during summer holidays.

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          • FYI, Padmavat release and became a blockbuster.

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          • It was only a plus film. It would have been a real BB if it was released in time and without threats and protests. It had great potential.

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          • That’s alright. Makers got what they achieved. The controversy was there even while shooting. Makers knew those. They still released it. Hats off to them and to the viewers who supported the vision.

            Luck and public supports the brave.

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        • IdeaUnique Says:

          MB on TV screen in 2013-14 was really good and Saurabh who portrayed Krishna was excellent. I do not think Aamir can match even that! he is too old for Krishna’s frivolous act…..i would not advise him to do that role now unless younger Krishnas are depicted by other actors and he restricts himself to Gita and MB war….

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      • I beg to differ. Netflix is not a plague. It’s simple economics. I am a family of 2 watchers of content. Right now it requires a cinematic adventure for us to want to go and watch in theatre. 1 movie experience can cost up to £25 for 2 people. Netflix costs £7 per MONTH. I can watch unlimited content for 3 months to breakeven and I am one such person who is not armoured by visuals too much. I can replace date night with dining or other things.

        I love cinema and still watch it, but have to become picky on what I watch.

        A movie on Mahabharata is unique and different. It deserves top billing i.e theatre. But Aamir on it in India and his history with controversy attached etc is a risky proposition. There is no reason why both together cannot happen in some format.

        Economics is a win-win on Netflix. But I will always watch a LOTR type film in theatre. There is always a price though. I am lucky that price is not increasing where I am. Streaming is not taking over either. Good films work in theatre. At least 15 have this year, barring Race3/TOH/Zero a lot of success for indian films this year. So it’s years before cinema is finished. And finished will never happen. Cinema will always be around just it needs to be economical.

        Popcorn itself is the highest premium product priced out there. In UK it costs something like 15p to make this stuff but you get charged £4+. It’s a joke! Now as a gujji, we get our bag of popcorn from supermarket and walk into theatre with it as we are cool…

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        • we get our bag of popcorn from supermarket and walk into theatre with it as we are cool

          That’s because you are married. If one is out to impress his girlfriend, trying the same tactic will not get one too far!

          It needs to be popcorn plus Nachos with cheese.

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        • Besides, in 5 years time, we will have economically priced 80 (?) inch TVs. 65 inch TVs aren’t that bad, as it is.

          What else can be seen through visuals?

          Paraphrasing Robbie from Manmarziyan — Ghus Jao…Kha Jaoge kya visuals ko?

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          • That being said, I would have loved to watch Tumbbad in theatres.

            Even Hollywood superhero movies though, don’t need a special trip to theatres. I can easily get by watching them on TV. There’s nothing outstanding about their visuals.

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          • Agree. I watched Dil Se and Andhadhun on Netflix. Visuals were fine for me. I’ve watched some sports live and still prefer home comforts. Now it’s to the point where a high profile must watch film or 3D that will lure me in.

            Netflix, Amazon, TV, sports channels is more than enough. Thrill aspect once a month in theatre or once every 8 weeks is fine.

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          • May be true for small budget movies to some extent. I still believe Andhadhun in a theatre would have been awesome and i regret not watching it.

            But in big budget, like MB we are talking about, there are various thrills and effects that script writers make for the theatre viewing which can be experienced only in a big theatre.

            These can be experienced in fairly reduced effect on television even on 65″ 4000K HD format.

            GoT would have done wonders to my viewing if it had released in IMAX.

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          • Did you stop watching GOT after first episode?

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          • These can be experienced in fairly reduced effect on television even on 65″ 4000K HD format.

            Not really. One a person crosses the age of 18, his/her visual and aural faculties start deteriorating anyway. So unless one is stuck in a time-warp, you are not experiencing sound and visuals as they would be, in their purest form.

            Besides, there will be 8K TVs becoming the norm soon. 85 inch 8K TVs will be the norm in 5 years time.

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          • No as i had no choice. But if and whenever a theatre decides to play it, i will go there FDFS.
            If it is remade with a great director again and released in theatre, i will go again. 🙂

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      • Its simple economics.. theater, steaming, video, etc are all just competing for the limited ‘Entertainment’ time quota enjoyed by paying folks. And as stated by Saket/JS, one can pretty much enjoy visuals driven movies on a 65″ TV in the comfort of one’s lavish drawing room. Why bother going to a cinema to blow up one’s wallet?
        As for MB is concerned, you are right that MB needs the absolute best treatment and release on the big screen. And the best part of it is, the Trolls of SM cant nitpick on anything, cause the story is already known, consumed, mentally ingrained in the minds of a billion people. So people will be going to a theater ONLY for the visuals. So here is the business decision: What if they spend 1000crs and are yet unable to create a product that at least matches up to circa 2010 Hollywood VFX? Is that a risk to be taken?
        Conversely, they can go with diminished visuals and choose Netflix, where they can actually have a 50-75 part series, that delves deep into this massive epic and its characters. People will perhaps enjoy that more than a truncated 3 part Cinematic experience.
        They actually need an MCU kinda deal. Have a main 4-5 part ongoing movie, with several other offshoots in between that explore each character. But for that, they need a huge commitment by many different actors. They might need more than half of bollywood to concentrate only on this. Is that even feasible, given the larger-than-Everest egos of everyone in this industry?
        They could actually do the MCU thing in a more cost effective manner with Netflix, than with cinema.
        Whatever be the result, the Business Decision and Risk Parameters are very very unpredictable to say the least.

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        • Agreed completely!

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          • One can watch at any time. One can pause and sleep. Avoiding traffic.
            Cant escape from cinema halls easily because of various considerations.
            Why to pay abnormally high ticket rates and then getting angry.
            Slowly the footfalls will decrease to the consternation of boi.
            The golden period is over for bollywood.

            South cinema is like BIhar and UP. So they can survive even producing mediocre stuff with some stars with reasonable budget.

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          • a movie releasing in theatre later will come in streaming later.

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        • Disagreed completely!!

          Fear of troll or not getting VFX right is the reason then film industry should not be the choice. People making Baahubali did not think in those line. Kar himmat to bhagwaan bhi saath dete hain.

          As i said the problem and good thing with MB is that it started with Aamir the actor. This changes the equation as he will decide who will be director and other stars. Usually he has not done these things before. Even TZP which he directed was when Amol Gupte had done everything.

          Problem because it should have started with a brilliant director whose name would get all the actors he wants. Someone like Rajamouli.

          So MB is not something which looks promising with Nefllix.

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          • There are various thrills and effects that script writers make for the theatre viewing which can be experienced only in a big theatre.

            These can be experienced in fairly reduced effect on television even on 65″ 4000K HD format.

            GoT would have done wonders to my viewing if it had released in IMAX.

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          • Viewing is less but not B&W. Have some perspective man! TV is not visually impaired!
            I even watch Netflix on my phone now! Never would 5 years ago. But times change. Once you are into something you will watch it. BB2 VFX is NOWHERE close to Hollywood but people watched it in cinemas and TV too! Follow the evidence.

            And I would rather watch something backed by Netflix than Reliance and Ambani!

            Anyway it’s a nonsense debate, once it comes if it’s good we’ll see.

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          • Just what I said! Naveen proved it again. A brilliant director like Rajamouli has to do it so that it can be accepted in India at all. Because Baahubali is the Holy Grail.

            MB on Netflix in Germany is very unlikely and I can only hope for a Bluraybox.

            I still hope Aamir will drop it, even after what he says every day in China in the interviews.

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          • 3 Netflix series – leave 3rd on CLIFFHANGER
            1 movie
            3 Netflix series

            Cliffhanger will guarantee cinematic experience and then Netflix subscription will go up after movie just to finish it all off.

            Netflix and theatres can be happy together. Any release problems are offset by Netflix goodwill.

            Everyone can be happy. TV to movie to TV.

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  98. Ground level WOM for Zero is actually not at all negative. It is decent and slightly tilted on positive side. So Zero will sustain better than ToH and Race 3. This has SRK a its best and a good reason to watch it in theatre.

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    • ‘Zero’: Shah Rukh Khan pens poetic verse to thank fans for aappreciating his film ZERO

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  99. Asuran.

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  100. 2.0 (Hindi) And Kedarnath Update
    Saturday 22 December 2018 12.30 IST
    Box Office India Trade Network

    2.0 (Hindi) had a huge reductions of shows in the fourth week and its run has sort of come to an end and the film will finish at around 185 crore nett. The collections were very limited on the fourth Friday. The collections of 2.0 (Hindi) till date are as follows

    Week One – 1,37,50,00,000 apprx

    Week Two – 37,50,00,000 apprx

    Week Three – 9,00,00,000 apprx

    Friday – 10,00,000 apprx

    TOTAL – 1,84,10,00,000 apprx

    Kedarnath is heading towards the 65 crore nett mark as it collected 45-50 lakhs nett on its third Friday. The drop in collections was inevitable but the film is still collecting. The film has done decent business though could have done with a better start. Still its a solid total for the film and not many would have expected to this film to go to 65 crore nett apprx.

    The business of Kedarnath till date is as follows.

    Week One – 42,16,00,000

    Week Two – 18,85,00,000 apprx

    Friday – 45,00,000 apprx

    TOTAL – 61,46,00,000 apprx

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  101. EXCLUSIVE: Vijay Devarakonda to play SRIKKANTH in Ranveer Singh starrer ‘83
    ByBollywood Hungama News NetworkDec 22, 2018 – 1:31 pm IST

    http://www.bollywoodhungama.com/news/bollywood/exclusive-vijay-devarakonda-play-srikkanth-ranveer-singh-starrer-83/

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  102. Seeking attention now!!

    “What did I say this time that I am being termed as a traitor?”- Naseeruddin Shah

    ByBollywood Hungama News NetworkDec 22, 2018 – 12:38 pm IST

    Naseeruddin Shah, who voiced his opinion against the rising mob violence in India, has sparked a huge controversy. While many are protesting, some politicians have called him a traitor. A day after the much hullabaloo, Naseeruddin Shah has now responded to the barbs and backlash directed his way.

    http://www.bollywoodhungama.com/news/features/say-time-termed-traitor-naseeruddin-shah/

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    • He isn’t seeking attention. He has always spoken his mind. Look at his history of comments.

      Calling him a traitor is sick.

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      • With six months to go before election, politicians will respond in the same language that they know. So that’s not a surprise anyways. They too have spoken their mind and the language they know.

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        • It is same as exactly 6 months before An Aamir Khan’s films, someone who speaks his mind says that his movies are not good enough to be watched in theatre but only on netflix.

          Then few people here (you know who), will attack him in the language they know. They will call the person idiot, which can be sick as well…but who cares.

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          • If people want to see films on Netflix instead of theatre it’s up to them. I personally never understand concept of TV movie. If a film is good I can enjoy it on my toilet seat, on sofa or cinema.

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    • The issue escalates

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  105. BTW there are no tweets from @BoxotopView today.

    No idea what happened here. I was sourcing his data for my calculations.

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  106. tonymontana Says:

    SATYAm is missing yesteryear srk so muh that he has decided to watch RbgG. Next in line in kabhi haan kabhi naa
    The final straw in his srk repertoire will be dil se and that will be it

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    • SRK couldn’t save Tubelight for Salman with his cameo. Salman has returned the favor back to SRK with Zero.

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  107. Where is Satyam, I hope everything is fine with you buddy. We’ve have argued a lot since the naachgaana days but know, that you are in my prayers and hope all is well.

    As I’ve said before, life is too short to spend on hating and spend time with people who loves and cars about you.

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  108. More about fresh blood.

    Khans or akshay, ajay Devgn fresh blood was needed. How long can one man carry the burden of satisfying the audience? Today Khans are also are forced to give way to fresh blood like Ranveer, Ranbir. One will experiment with fresh blood. When Bachchan dethroned Khanna, he was offered everything and he saw the success that no one had seen. Khanna dethroned Jeetendra. Rishi could never be the superstar inspite of his looks and talent. We can see a clear pattern.

    A person can be the greatest actor but age will not permit him to play some roles. An MPK. a QSQT, a DDLJ, a khiladi, a Zhakm, a Bobby. Once the fresh ones capture the imagination of the young crowd, there is no looking back. They will replace the older brigade and they will get some interesting roles too because cinema evolves with new directors and new story tellers like Hirani, Mehra and the like. I am talking about mainly mainstream ones.

    Hema Malini and Rekha inspite of preserving their looks could not do roles that Rani, Kajol, Madhuri, Sridevi did.The young crowd simply will not accept them in lead roles. And Rani, Kajol cant do roles meant for a Deepika, Kareena, Priyanka. Alia and others are slowly taking over from Priyanka, Kareena while Deepika still is wanted by big film makers.

    Even with singers this happened. Rafi reigned for a long time. But Kishore Kumar’s fresh blood dethroned rafi due to people loving the latter’s freshness as a singer while rafi could still sing perfectly. People need variety and they embrace variety. Same way
    Rahman replaced Ilayaraja. Kamal and Rajni are on their way out.

    We may feel nostalgic and feel sad. But the show goes on with new players.

    Some very good actors and singers never got their due. And that is more saddening.

    I have many beautiful old sarees, yet I am excited to get a new saree.

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    • Asking for variety has nothing to do with quality. That is why we find that most of the young crowd quite surprised at the adulation the bygone ones get. While quality remains the same, tastes do change. So when one accepts the quality, they may not be overwhelmed because their taste accepts something else. There are some who accept both equally and I am one of them.

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  109. tonymontana Says:

    On another note:

    These are the guys who trolled TOH and 2.0

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  110. After impressing the audience with his spectacular performance in the film Padmaavat earlier this year, Bollywood actor Ranveer Singh is all set for the release of his next film Simmba. Not only this, but Ranveer also has a lot of films lined up in his kitty for the coming year. Recently, the actor treated his fans with an ask Simmba session where he expressed his wish to starring in the sequel of Aamir Khan and Salman Khan’s hit movie Andaz Apna Apna.

    When a fan asked the 33-year-old actor if he plans to star in an out and out comedy film, he said, “hoping for something crackling to come along! very much looking forward to something in that space! Andaz Apna Apna 2?!” with a wink emoticon.

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  112. Kashyap has a number of tweets praising Zero…

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    • Yeah but nothing concretely in favour of Zero. Anand L Rai produced both Mukkabaaz and Manmarziyan, so that might have something to do with it.

      If you read between the lines, it’s qualified praise — more for the ambition rather than the execution.

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    • I will bet that kashyap is trying to kid himself, while is knows better. A few more zeros and he will disassociate himself from rai altogether. And i dont think he cares abt the zeros in his paycheck from rai productions anyways. He is born for netflix stuff, with no strings attached.

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  113. aamirsaurabh Says:

    EXCUSES.

    Zero Second Day Early Estimates
    Sunday 23 December 2018 13.30 IST
    Box Office India Trade Network
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    Zero has struggled to make much of an impact on day two as collections are set to come in the 16-17 crore nett range. There will be a 15% drop from the Friday when the film had to show this much growth to stay in the race despite an under performing day one.

    The two day figures will be around 35-36 crore nett which is just not good enough and the writing is on the wall. The film has surprising done best in UP and Bihar which are normally the lesser performers for Shahrukh Khan starrers but it is probably the UP setting helping these parts.

    Its another huge blow for the industry just after Thugs of Hindostan and unless a miracle happens for Zero its going to be a bad year for the industry theatrically. The euphoria of the huge extra revenue from digital is a blessing but getting huge crowds into theaters remains the big problem.

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  114. aamirsaurabh Says:

    I believe LT wld be around 85cr and that too might be due to christmas boosting collns a bit.Weekend looking in 55-56cr range.

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  115. Most of the reviews mention that Zero is strictly meant for SRK fans. At least the ones that are negative take care to point that out.

    I think this is a key message. SRK, for all his ambition, has not transcended the ambit of his initial stardom. His films and his roles are still catering to his original fan-base. There is no crossover audience to speak of. I say this without watching Zero, of course, but this is the sense that I get.

    He has his trademark mannerisms, which define his stardom and his appeal to his fans, but they also alienate another section of the audience. There is not even an attempt to appear different. There are some exceptions like Dear Zindagi (even in this film, his dialogue delivery is reminiscent of his previous romantic roles) but by and large, he has been content to play the same character, or a variation of it, in film after film.

    An actor, at least a real one, looks forward to challenges in his/her craft. What has been so challenging about films like Dilwale, HNY, Chennai Express, Ra.One, JHMS or Zero? Where is the drive to push oneself? If anything, it represents a pretty cynical mindset revolving around Box Office success. Perhaps this is the reason why he doesn’t have a crossover audience.

    It’s not that people who are not his fans love to hate him. It’s more about finding something relatable in his work that stands out for others to appreciate. Otherwise, the refrain is: If I’ve seen one SRK film, I’ve pretty much seen everything he has to offer. His diehard fans may be OK with that, but why should others follow the same diktat?

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    • As an example, SRK plays (or is supposed to play) a typical guy from Meerut in Zero.

      From what angle does he resemble one? He has the same hairstyle, the same mannerisms (the song Mere Naam Tu comes to mind) and the same excessive energy to speak of. What’s really different?

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