Terminology is just a naming convention and that hardly matters. When it comes to consistency TG is also as good as FI. And any source like BOI which lacks consistency is a farce.
@Munna – Why this new thread? Not much discussion goes on regarding FI anyways.
Someone has been crying nonstop that Pathaan collections are fake and vouching for FI and even that’s calling 55 crores as 1st day record…now what? Find reasons? Lol.
Pathaan netted Rs. 14.31 crore in 4th week, taking its grand total to Rs. 520.16 crore. The fourth weekend started with a net collection of Rs. 2.25 crore (Hindi Rs. 2.20 crore; dubbed Rs. 0.05 crore). Collections on Saturday totalled Rs. 3.32 crore (Hindi Rs. 3.25 crore; dubbed Rs. 0.07 crore). The increase on Sunday resulted in a total of Rs. 4.25 crore (Hindi Rs. 4.15 crore; dubbed Rs. 0.10 crore). Therefore, the total for the fourth weekend was Rs. 9.82 crore (Hindi Rs. 9.60 crore; dubbed Rs. 0.22 crore) https://filminformation.com/category/box-office/latest-position/
Film Information, the premier trade magazine of the Hindi film industry, completed 50 years today (6th October). Started on 6th October, 1973 by its founder editor-printer-publisher, Shri Ramraj Nahta (in picture above), it has served the film industry for half a century with its free, frank and impartial reviews and reporting of the happenings in the film trade, including box-office collections of cinemas across the country.
Although the magazine is now in the digital format only, it was started as a weekly in the print format. It was published every Saturday for 46 years. The magazine changed its avatar on 6th October, 2019, the day it completed 46 years. It is now four years that the trade paper is being brought out digitally.
Saturdays (the day on which the magazine in the print format was published) from 1973 to 2019 used to be unthinkable for the film trade people without a copy of their favourite trade magazine in their hands. While the magazine was never sold on the news stands as it was for circulation within the film trade only, that too, by subscription, the online version has been made available to the world at large.
So AB has delivered 20 blockbusters in his career as per FI. In his prime, 18 Blockbusters 13 years! I dont think this record will ever be broken in Bollywood.
Comparatively, SRK/Salman both has around 15-16 if include Tiger 3 & Dunki (TvP will probably increase both of their count to 17), & Aamir has 10-11. Unlikely that any of the Khans will get there, unless SRK’s current resurgence gives 3 more Blockbusters after TvP!
Not sure if FI will publish year end classifications this year after a hiatus, but here is my reading of 2023 box office:
SUPER DUPER HIT – Gadar 2, The Kerala Story
SUPERHIT – Animal
HIT – Pathaan, Jawaan, 12th Fail
SEMI-HIT – Zara Hatke Zara Bachke, Dream Girl 2, Fukrey 3
OVERFLOW – Sam Bahadur, Dunki (expected)
COMMISSION EARNER – Tu Jhoothi Main Makkar, OMG 2
COVERAGE – Satya Prem Ki Katha, Rocky Aur Rani Ki Prem Kahani, Tiger 3, Mrs. Chatterjee vs. Norway
Dunki – Whoever said this is Hirani’s best and that he’s outdone 3 Idiots deserves to be thrashed.
That being said, its okay if watched without the burden of watching it as a Hirani film. Same old juvenile humor, same old toilet jokes (without the novelty and comic timing of a Munnabhai or 3 Idiots), same old stale suicidal props (with a warning of course!), Hirani trying desperately to get into masala zone (with a bit of action that falls flat) and a screenplay that starts off in an interesting fashion but ends up being a snoozefest.
A disinterested Taapsee, an expectedly over the top srk (playing 30 years younger than hos age as usual) and a misfitting vicky kaushal do not help the cause.
PS -If the intention was to showcase the misery and suffering of illegal immigrants and their challenges, the plot falls flat. As flat as srk & taapsee’s chemistry and Hardy & manu’s love story.
FI on 2023:
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♦♦ Five of the 228 theatrically released films proved blockbusters. They were Pathaan, The Kerala Story, Gadar 2, Jawan and Animal. Besides the five aforenamed films, 13 were successful at the turnstiles. They were Oh My God 2, Dunki, Rocky Aur Rani Kii Prem Kahaani, 12th Fail, Zara Hat Ke Zara Bach Ke, Dream Girl 2, Fukrey 3, 1920: Horrors Of The Heart, Satyaprem Ki Katha, Salaar (dubbed), Sam Bahadur, IB 71 and Mrs. Chatterjee Vs Norway.
” Shah Rukh Khan may have written history not just by delivering two blockbusters (Jawan and Pathaan) and one successful film (Dunki) in a single year but also by staging a comeback with three success stories, two of them being phenomenal hits. This may be a world cinema record for an actor who had been written off not just by the trade but also by many among the public. He proved that his comeback was far more forceful than his setback.”
The joke is on you for always contradicting this open fact – “an actor who had been written off not just by the trade but also by many among the public.”
Stop making a fool of yourself. No one has denied Srk’s comeback. But you live with your biased delusions.
Lol, SRK was down but he was still the highest paid celebrity even when he was on a break and was commanding huge offers. Producing Jawan, doing Raju Hirani’s and YRF’s Pathaan doesn’t happen when you are not saleable or completely down. It’s not like he became Arjun Kapoor or something.
Happy for Sam Bahadur for withstanding Animal & the sandwiching between Tiger 3 & Dunki. Great year for Vicky in general. IB71 should have been a better film for its theme.
And it carries 200 cr investment too, unlike any of the others in the list. Thats why it is just a success or an earning proposition by FI. Some of us have been saying this earlier, much to your chagrin.
All you could come up with was *hater **hater *** hater rantings.
Last year, FI listed only 5 Bollywood films that had crossed the Average line. This year that number has shot up to 17 (excluding Salaar). That is a 240% increase in just one year! 2023 was indeed a great year for Bollywood.
Salaar is around 75-80 cr distribution price for Hindi alone.
Dunki i dont have the exact figure, but it will be in 100-120 cr range given the names involved.
Budget figure doesnt really matter, whether it was 135 cr inclusing P&A as Himesh says or its 200 cr including minimum talent fees. Its a moot point. Anyone thinking that a Hirani film with SRK was sold for peanuts to the distributors (specially after Pathaan and Jawaan) is day-dreaming.
Yes, that is my reading too. Both will be recovery to commission earner in the final run.
I miss the days when FI would explicitly classify the earners as commission, overflow, hits and superhits. These days they just cluster the big hits and earners into 2 broad groups.
Dunki 200 cr? Lol. Jio brought satellite rights even before shooting started for 150 crs and financed the full production and even in that after shooting and promotion, rest is gone to RCE & RHF. This is even before selling other rights. I see some others saying 300 crs as well.. you should have joined that gang.
Lol, ignoring many reputed sites, finding some silly site to prove your point. Even who watched the movie can vouch, there’s hardly anything which makes it 200 cr budget movie.
The 1st half is shot in small set and 2nd half is shot in various countries free of cost. Even the Saudi sequence is funded by Saudi govt as it’s first Bollywood movie to be shot there and also they gave them incentive back as it promoted their place first time in movie. UK is ofcourse non-expensive for Indian movies especially shooting on the roads. Both SRK/Hirani are co-producers. There’s absolutely no way it can cost about 85 crs for shooting and 120 crs with all print, publicity and marketing which is widely reported everywhere. Now, I understand why Raju Hirani wanted to make this as much low cost as possible.
That’s Himesh’s exclusive. I said pick any important site. It was 70-75 shoot movie and that also lowers cost unlike Jawan 150 days of shooting.
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According to sources close to the development, the cost of production for Dunki excluding the remuneration of SRK and Rajkumar Hirani is merely Rs. 90 crores. “Rajkumar Hirani is a writer, director, and editor and has a very clear vision of what he needs to shoot and how. He never wastes resources and goes ahead with proper planning of the shooting schedule. He pulled off the Dunki shoot in merely 70 days,” a source close to the development told Bollywood Hungama.
The budget of Dunki in terms of production cost excluding all talent fees is Rs. 90 crores, and the makers are all ready to spend around Rs. 30 to 35 crores on print and publicity. “It’s a clash and hence more amount will be spent to market the film. The overall cost of production including PnA is in the range of Rs. 125 to 130 crores.”
Especially this movie was launched in 2021, Hirani wanted to keep the budget as low as possible especially knowing nothing is working in Bollywood post covid. As I mentioned anyone who has seen the movie knows how economical is the movie. Don’t think it crosses 100 crs esp with such low shooting days.
Since A month back release I have been telling that budget is very less…I was not aware Himesh has confirmed this too which is as good as any confirmation in bollywood…
And this article is month before release..the trend before release is usually to say budget is high to attract eyeballs..it hypes up the movie..here it is opposite…they were saying it is low almost a month back…btw bmcm budget is being said as 300cr for same reason to hype up the project..unless the producer is a nutcase i doubt it is as high as that…I won’t be surprised till time of release they will say the budget as 300cr once it releases they will try to justify how it got back all its investment..
Dunki as most are saying is a clear success..the only issue is expectation were higher for sure whether it has recovered his distribution cost or not is not the question anyways…it surely is a result which is a bit of an under achievement from.expextation side..
Also pathaan DS was 125cr..jawaan was 125 to 140cr.. There is no way dunki DS will be same or even close to this..
Why cannot a Hirani (director of 4 biggest BBs in the last 18 years) film starring a post Jawan Srk fetch the same price as a Pathaan? Even if its lower, it’ll at least be a 100 Cr acquisition and the all India share will be in the 100-110 Cr range. So a Coverage to commission at best.
Typically they sell movies to half the production budget and rest to overseas..no production house tries to get all his earnings from India alone..pathaan budget was 200cr..india DS was 125..jawaan was 250cr..india DS was 110cr excluding south and Orissa…..it is improbable that a movie with a big star that the india DS is same or close to production budget…and srk is one thing we all know an extremely smart business man…one can say he is lousy actor but he has business sense…overseas plus India plus digital plus music are all channel to get back your money..for every movie srk is trying to get half of production budget from india DS suddenly for dunki he does something opposite knowing the genre and that it is not an big budget actioner? That is not at all common sense
Trade expectations were 500 cr from Hirani and SRK combination for a typical comedy drama. Read the reports before release if you think this is an exaggeration. That would imply 250 cr Distributor Share. Distribution price of 100-120 cr is a reasonable range considering that.
The 85 cr number thrown around maybe just the production cost. What about the talent cost? SRK and Hirani both are taking their fees from the ‘earnings’ as they are the co-producers here. It is typical that they will sell their film for highest prices that they can get from the current market – be it 200+ cr satellite deals or 100+ cr Distribution Price. That is typical business sense, which SRK supposedly has in abundance?
As i said, fans think out their arse when it comes to the films about their fav star. Need to apply the grey cells too (assuming they are there!).
“Typically they sell movies to half the production budget and rest to overseas” – Tiger 3 is a success by that yardstick. No mention of that on FI (incorrect imo).
Tiger 3 production budget is over 300cr…rising to 350cr..even if I assume they sold it for 150cr it’s still hardly breakeven…I have no clue why boi calls it a success
Yrf shelved 2 of their movies after tiger 3..that’s tell us about real fate of tiger 3
Most trade websites are calling it a huge underperformer. How is it a hit. Budget should include fee of the lead actors. If you take a simulated or assumed fee of Shshrukh khan of 100 cr it’s budget is 220 cr. Profit means theatrical profits not profits from other rights to be called a hit.
DHLJ was Flop by Taran Adarsh & Film Information. BOI have given Flop movie Hit. Ram Jaane was Above Average by Komal Nahta & Semi-Hit by Taran Adarsh. pic.twitter.com/KBG23soc0A
Boi is truly hilarious in calling DHLJ, Yes Boss & Ram Jaane as Hits while Pardes is a Super Hit.. its like someone launching a random trade journal in 2044 & calling Fighter a Hit & Tiger 3/Dunki as blockbusters 👏
SATYAMSHOT 
April 7, 2023 at 1:28 PM
More than terminology its about consistency. An aspect where BOI has falls apart completely compared to FI and now Sacnilk or even Koimoi.
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April 12, 2023 at 8:59 AM
Terminology is just a naming convention and that hardly matters. When it comes to consistency TG is also as good as FI. And any source like BOI which lacks consistency is a farce.
@Munna – Why this new thread? Not much discussion goes on regarding FI anyways.
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April 7, 2023 at 1:39 PM
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April 7, 2023 at 1:48 PM
Too many Akshay films on the list.
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April 7, 2023 at 1:55 PM
Someone has been crying nonstop that Pathaan collections are fake and vouching for FI and even that’s calling 55 crores as 1st day record…now what? Find reasons? Lol.
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April 7, 2023 at 3:21 PM
I saw that but didn’t want to rub it in him face. He may go in depression just like aamir.
Does anybody have day 2 FI numbers, and the 1st week scan?
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April 7, 2023 at 3:41 PM
Pathaan netted Rs. 14.31 crore in 4th week, taking its grand total to Rs. 520.16 crore. The fourth weekend started with a net collection of Rs. 2.25 crore (Hindi Rs. 2.20 crore; dubbed Rs. 0.05 crore). Collections on Saturday totalled Rs. 3.32 crore (Hindi Rs. 3.25 crore; dubbed Rs. 0.07 crore). The increase on Sunday resulted in a total of Rs. 4.25 crore (Hindi Rs. 4.15 crore; dubbed Rs. 0.10 crore). Therefore, the total for the fourth weekend was Rs. 9.82 crore (Hindi Rs. 9.60 crore; dubbed Rs. 0.22 crore)
https://filminformation.com/category/box-office/latest-position/
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April 12, 2023 at 9:01 AM
Still cant accept that YRF over-reported Pathaan by 10-15%? Not even after TJMM fiasco?
FI’s unreported center totals is just an estimation. That does not matter.
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September 30, 2023 at 10:18 PM
Exclusive : Suhag was semi hit and Mr. Natwarlal was an overflow fare. Bachchan staunch fans have spread so many lies about his films verdicts.
I clearly remember Naseeb too was classified semi hit by Film Information.
Actually yakuza made up those FI fake verdicts but now he is getting exposed
https://twitter.com/Taklaseth45/status/1707675872574984477?t=KdSkKo1FshbVjz2_kEmkFg&s=19
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October 6, 2023 at 6:17 PM
Changing username isn’t gonna make you a non Zero. Get scans to prove your false worthless claims.
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October 6, 2023 at 5:38 PM
” Saudagar (Diwali ’73): Flop; Parvarish (’77): Hit; Muqaddar Ka Sikander (’78): Blockbuster; Yaarana (’81): Hit; Mard (’85): Hit; and Akayla (’91)”
https://filminformation.com/featured/flashback-6-october-2023-from-our-issue-dated-10th-october-1998/
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October 6, 2023 at 6:30 PM
Parvarish -Hit, Yaarana -Hit.. what a fail for these sewer dwelling drag queen fans whose messiah himself is a massive AB Sr fan since childhood 😂
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October 6, 2023 at 5:41 PM
https://filminformation.com/featured/film-information-completes-50-years-6-october-2023/
Film Information, the premier trade magazine of the Hindi film industry, completed 50 years today (6th October). Started on 6th October, 1973 by its founder editor-printer-publisher, Shri Ramraj Nahta (in picture above), it has served the film industry for half a century with its free, frank and impartial reviews and reporting of the happenings in the film trade, including box-office collections of cinemas across the country.
Although the magazine is now in the digital format only, it was started as a weekly in the print format. It was published every Saturday for 46 years. The magazine changed its avatar on 6th October, 2019, the day it completed 46 years. It is now four years that the trade paper is being brought out digitally.
Saturdays (the day on which the magazine in the print format was published) from 1973 to 2019 used to be unthinkable for the film trade people without a copy of their favourite trade magazine in their hands. While the magazine was never sold on the news stands as it was for circulation within the film trade only, that too, by subscription, the online version has been made available to the world at large.
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October 13, 2023 at 4:23 AM
Seems like Blockbuster here refers to biggest or significant hits..
https://filminformation.com/featured/flashback-13-october-2023-from-our-issue-dated-17th-october-1998/
BLOCKBUSTERS OF 25 YEARS
(1973-1997)
1973
Bobby, Zanjeer, Jugnu, Daag, Anuraag
1974
Roti Kapada Aur Makaan, Bidaai, Roti, Chor Machaye Shor, Prem Nagar
1975
Sholay, Jai Santoshi Maa, Deewaar
1976
Kabhi Kabhie, Laila Majnu, Dus Numbri, Fakira, Hera Pheri, Kalicharan,
Udhar Ka Sindur
1977
Amar Akbar Anthony, Dharam Veer, Parvarish, Dulhan Wohi Jo Piya Man
Bhaaye, Hum Kisise Kum Nahin
1978
Muqaddar Ka Sikandar, Don, Trishul, Main Tulsi Tere Aangan Ki, Swarag Narak, Kasme Vaade
1979
Noorie, Jaani Dushman, Dada, Sargam
1980
Aasha, Qurbani, Insaf Ka Tarazu
1981
Ek Duuje Ke Liye, Love Story, Kranti, Laawaris, Meri Awaaz Suno
1982
Namak Halaal, Nikaah, Vidhaata, Prem Rog
1983
Coolie, Himmatwala, Avtaar, Hero, Andhaa Kaanoon, Betaab
1984
Sharaabi, Tohfa
1985
Pyar Jhukta Nahin, Ram Teri Ganga Maili, Mard
1986
Nagina, Swarag Se Sunder
1987
Pratighaat
1988
Tezaab, Qayamat Se Qayamat Tak
1989
Maine Pyar Kiya, Ram Lakhan, Chandni, Tridev
1990
Dil, Ghayal
1991
Phool Aur Kaante, Saajan, Sanam Bewafa
1992
Beta, Deewana
1993
Aankhen, Baazigar, Anari, Tirangaa, Khal-nayak, Darr
1994
Hum Aapke Hain Koun..!, Jurassic Park (dubbed), Dilwale, Mohra, Krantiveer
1995
Dilwale Dulhaniya Le Jayenge, Karan Arjun, Raja, Bombay (dubbed),
Rangeela, Coolie No. 1
1996
Raja Hindustani, Agni Sakshi, Bandit Queen, Saajan Chale Sasural
1997
Border, Dil To Pagal Hai, Ishq
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October 21, 2023 at 2:19 AM
So AB has delivered 20 blockbusters in his career as per FI. In his prime, 18 Blockbusters 13 years! I dont think this record will ever be broken in Bollywood.
Comparatively, SRK/Salman both has around 15-16 if include Tiger 3 & Dunki (TvP will probably increase both of their count to 17), & Aamir has 10-11. Unlikely that any of the Khans will get there, unless SRK’s current resurgence gives 3 more Blockbusters after TvP!
1. Zanjeer (1973)
2. Roti Kapada Aur Makaan (1974)
3. Deewaar (1975)
4. Sholay (1975)
5. Kabhi Kabhie (1976)
6. Hera Pheri (1976)
7. Amar Akbar Anthony (1977)
8. Parvarish (1977)
9. Muqaddar Ka Sikandar (1978)
10. Don (1978)
11. Trishul (1978)
12. Kasme Vaade (1978)
13. Laawaris (1981)
14. Namak Halaal (1982)
15. Coolie (1983)
16. Andhaa Kaanoon (1983)
17. Sharaabi (1984)
18. Mard (1985)
19. Mohabbatein (2000)
20. Kabhi Khushi Kabhie Gham (2001)
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December 25, 2023 at 12:38 AM
Not sure if FI will publish year end classifications this year after a hiatus, but here is my reading of 2023 box office:
SUPER DUPER HIT – Gadar 2, The Kerala Story
SUPERHIT – Animal
HIT – Pathaan, Jawaan, 12th Fail
SEMI-HIT – Zara Hatke Zara Bachke, Dream Girl 2, Fukrey 3
OVERFLOW – Sam Bahadur, Dunki (expected)
COMMISSION EARNER – Tu Jhoothi Main Makkar, OMG 2
COVERAGE – Satya Prem Ki Katha, Rocky Aur Rani Ki Prem Kahani, Tiger 3, Mrs. Chatterjee vs. Norway
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December 25, 2023 at 1:59 AM
And the ‘Big’ Flops of 2023:
Shehzada
Selfiee
Bholaa
Kisi Ka Bhai Kisi Ki Jaan
Adipurush
Mission Raniganj
Ganapath – A Hero Is Born
Tejas
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December 25, 2023 at 4:50 AM
Pathaan/Jawan lower than War?
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December 25, 2023 at 5:07 AM
Dunno about War, but both Pathaan and Jawaan carried 250+ cr and 300+ cr respectively, including budget and P&A costs.
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December 25, 2023 at 7:20 AM
War was a Super Duper by FI.
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December 25, 2023 at 7:57 AM
Dunki – Whoever said this is Hirani’s best and that he’s outdone 3 Idiots deserves to be thrashed.
That being said, its okay if watched without the burden of watching it as a Hirani film. Same old juvenile humor, same old toilet jokes (without the novelty and comic timing of a Munnabhai or 3 Idiots), same old stale suicidal props (with a warning of course!), Hirani trying desperately to get into masala zone (with a bit of action that falls flat) and a screenplay that starts off in an interesting fashion but ends up being a snoozefest.
A disinterested Taapsee, an expectedly over the top srk (playing 30 years younger than hos age as usual) and a misfitting vicky kaushal do not help the cause.
PS -If the intention was to showcase the misery and suffering of illegal immigrants and their challenges, the plot falls flat. As flat as srk & taapsee’s chemistry and Hardy & manu’s love story.
☆☆½
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December 30, 2023 at 11:06 PM
FI on 2023:
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♦♦ Five of the 228 theatrically released films proved blockbusters. They were Pathaan, The Kerala Story, Gadar 2, Jawan and Animal. Besides the five aforenamed films, 13 were successful at the turnstiles. They were Oh My God 2, Dunki, Rocky Aur Rani Kii Prem Kahaani, 12th Fail, Zara Hat Ke Zara Bach Ke, Dream Girl 2, Fukrey 3, 1920: Horrors Of The Heart, Satyaprem Ki Katha, Salaar (dubbed), Sam Bahadur, IB 71 and Mrs. Chatterjee Vs Norway.
https://filminformation.com/featured/film-weather-2023-30-december-2023/
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December 30, 2023 at 11:10 PM
Not surprised that Tiger 3 did not cross the Average line as per FI standards, but Tu Jhoothi Main Makkar is also missing from this list.
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December 30, 2023 at 11:15 PM
” Shah Rukh Khan may have written history not just by delivering two blockbusters (Jawan and Pathaan) and one successful film (Dunki) in a single year but also by staging a comeback with three success stories, two of them being phenomenal hits. This may be a world cinema record for an actor who had been written off not just by the trade but also by many among the public. He proved that his comeback was far more forceful than his setback.”
😛
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December 30, 2023 at 11:24 PM
The joke is on you for always contradicting this open fact – “an actor who had been written off not just by the trade but also by many among the public.”
Stop making a fool of yourself. No one has denied Srk’s comeback. But you live with your biased delusions.
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December 30, 2023 at 11:32 PM
Lol, SRK was down but he was still the highest paid celebrity even when he was on a break and was commanding huge offers. Producing Jawan, doing Raju Hirani’s and YRF’s Pathaan doesn’t happen when you are not saleable or completely down. It’s not like he became Arjun Kapoor or something.
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December 31, 2023 at 12:16 AM
Happy for Sam Bahadur for withstanding Animal & the sandwiching between Tiger 3 & Dunki. Great year for Vicky in general. IB71 should have been a better film for its theme.
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December 31, 2023 at 12:29 AM
Sam Bahadur has been the silent killer at the box-office. Vicky had a good year, no doubt. I hope he gets some good projects from here onwards.
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December 30, 2023 at 11:23 PM
Among the 13 successful films mentioned, Dunki is highest grosser by a margin.
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December 30, 2023 at 11:27 PM
And it carries 200 cr investment too, unlike any of the others in the list. Thats why it is just a success or an earning proposition by FI. Some of us have been saying this earlier, much to your chagrin.
All you could come up with was *hater **hater *** hater rantings.
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December 30, 2023 at 11:38 PM
Lol, surely there are haters out there. It’s individual’s interest to get counted in that list or not by his comments.
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December 30, 2023 at 11:52 PM
HAHA
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December 30, 2023 at 11:52 PM
Lol, one is very eager to be on the list permanently. Always ‘butting’ in with his lame comments and licking anything and everything on the way.
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December 30, 2023 at 11:34 PM
Last year, FI listed only 5 Bollywood films that had crossed the Average line. This year that number has shot up to 17 (excluding Salaar). That is a 240% increase in just one year! 2023 was indeed a great year for Bollywood.
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December 31, 2023 at 12:11 AM
Salaar is around 75-80 cr distribution price for Hindi alone.
Dunki i dont have the exact figure, but it will be in 100-120 cr range given the names involved.
Budget figure doesnt really matter, whether it was 135 cr inclusing P&A as Himesh says or its 200 cr including minimum talent fees. Its a moot point. Anyone thinking that a Hirani film with SRK was sold for peanuts to the distributors (specially after Pathaan and Jawaan) is day-dreaming.
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December 31, 2023 at 12:14 AM
Both around coverage to commission with Salaar being a huge loser for domestic circuits.
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December 31, 2023 at 12:27 AM
Yes, that is my reading too. Both will be recovery to commission earner in the final run.
I miss the days when FI would explicitly classify the earners as commission, overflow, hits and superhits. These days they just cluster the big hits and earners into 2 broad groups.
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December 30, 2023 at 11:35 PM
Dunki 200 cr? Lol. Jio brought satellite rights even before shooting started for 150 crs and financed the full production and even in that after shooting and promotion, rest is gone to RCE & RHF. This is even before selling other rights. I see some others saying 300 crs as well.. you should have joined that gang.
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December 30, 2023 at 11:40 PM
Live with your delusions, no one cares.
https://www.bollymoviereviewz.com/2013/04/bollywood-box-office-collection-2013.html
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December 30, 2023 at 11:44 PM
Lol, ignoring many reputed sites, finding some silly site to prove your point. Even who watched the movie can vouch, there’s hardly anything which makes it 200 cr budget movie.
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December 30, 2023 at 11:43 PM
The 1st half is shot in small set and 2nd half is shot in various countries free of cost. Even the Saudi sequence is funded by Saudi govt as it’s first Bollywood movie to be shot there and also they gave them incentive back as it promoted their place first time in movie. UK is ofcourse non-expensive for Indian movies especially shooting on the roads. Both SRK/Hirani are co-producers. There’s absolutely no way it can cost about 85 crs for shooting and 120 crs with all print, publicity and marketing which is widely reported everywhere. Now, I understand why Raju Hirani wanted to make this as much low cost as possible.
https://www.pinkvilla.com/entertainment/exclusives/exclusive-rajkumar-hirani-masterfullly-plans-dunki-to-make-it-lowest-budgeted-shah-rukh-khan-film-in-6-years-1260264#:~:text=Pinkvilla%20has%20exclusively%20learnt%20that,is%20just%20Rs%2085%20crores.
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December 30, 2023 at 11:45 PM
Pinkvilla??? LOL
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December 30, 2023 at 11:49 PM
That’s Himesh’s exclusive. I said pick any important site. It was 70-75 shoot movie and that also lowers cost unlike Jawan 150 days of shooting.
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According to sources close to the development, the cost of production for Dunki excluding the remuneration of SRK and Rajkumar Hirani is merely Rs. 90 crores. “Rajkumar Hirani is a writer, director, and editor and has a very clear vision of what he needs to shoot and how. He never wastes resources and goes ahead with proper planning of the shooting schedule. He pulled off the Dunki shoot in merely 70 days,” a source close to the development told Bollywood Hungama.
The budget of Dunki in terms of production cost excluding all talent fees is Rs. 90 crores, and the makers are all ready to spend around Rs. 30 to 35 crores on print and publicity. “It’s a clash and hence more amount will be spent to market the film. The overall cost of production including PnA is in the range of Rs. 125 to 130 crores.”
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December 30, 2023 at 11:53 PM
When did samosa critics like Himesh become important? Talk about being delusional …
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December 31, 2023 at 2:33 AM
My link missing in the above comment. This is from Bollyhungama and again before release where they mentioned 90. Rs budget and 70 days shooting days.
https://www.bollywoodhungama.com/news/bollywood/rajkumar-hirani-turns-economical-director-shah-rukh-khan-dunki-budget-revealed/
Especially this movie was launched in 2021, Hirani wanted to keep the budget as low as possible especially knowing nothing is working in Bollywood post covid. As I mentioned anyone who has seen the movie knows how economical is the movie. Don’t think it crosses 100 crs esp with such low shooting days.
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December 31, 2023 at 1:48 AM
Since A month back release I have been telling that budget is very less…I was not aware Himesh has confirmed this too which is as good as any confirmation in bollywood…
And this article is month before release..the trend before release is usually to say budget is high to attract eyeballs..it hypes up the movie..here it is opposite…they were saying it is low almost a month back…btw bmcm budget is being said as 300cr for same reason to hype up the project..unless the producer is a nutcase i doubt it is as high as that…I won’t be surprised till time of release they will say the budget as 300cr once it releases they will try to justify how it got back all its investment..
Dunki as most are saying is a clear success..the only issue is expectation were higher for sure whether it has recovered his distribution cost or not is not the question anyways…it surely is a result which is a bit of an under achievement from.expextation side..
Also pathaan DS was 125cr..jawaan was 125 to 140cr.. There is no way dunki DS will be same or even close to this..
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December 31, 2023 at 1:57 AM
I didnt follow Jawaan, but Pathan’s DS was in the range of 120 cr ONLY because YRF was distributing the film themselves!
Had they not, the market price would have been a lot higher. Lets not forget to use our common sense … but then we are talking to fans afterall.
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December 31, 2023 at 2:05 AM
Why cannot a Hirani (director of 4 biggest BBs in the last 18 years) film starring a post Jawan Srk fetch the same price as a Pathaan? Even if its lower, it’ll at least be a 100 Cr acquisition and the all India share will be in the 100-110 Cr range. So a Coverage to commission at best.
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December 31, 2023 at 2:17 AM
Typically they sell movies to half the production budget and rest to overseas..no production house tries to get all his earnings from India alone..pathaan budget was 200cr..india DS was 125..jawaan was 250cr..india DS was 110cr excluding south and Orissa…..it is improbable that a movie with a big star that the india DS is same or close to production budget…and srk is one thing we all know an extremely smart business man…one can say he is lousy actor but he has business sense…overseas plus India plus digital plus music are all channel to get back your money..for every movie srk is trying to get half of production budget from india DS suddenly for dunki he does something opposite knowing the genre and that it is not an big budget actioner? That is not at all common sense
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December 31, 2023 at 2:35 AM
Simple reason, if DS was high, I don’t think FI wouldn’t have called it successful already in 10 days.
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December 31, 2023 at 2:36 AM
Trade expectations were 500 cr from Hirani and SRK combination for a typical comedy drama. Read the reports before release if you think this is an exaggeration. That would imply 250 cr Distributor Share. Distribution price of 100-120 cr is a reasonable range considering that.
The 85 cr number thrown around maybe just the production cost. What about the talent cost? SRK and Hirani both are taking their fees from the ‘earnings’ as they are the co-producers here. It is typical that they will sell their film for highest prices that they can get from the current market – be it 200+ cr satellite deals or 100+ cr Distribution Price. That is typical business sense, which SRK supposedly has in abundance?
As i said, fans think out their arse when it comes to the films about their fav star. Need to apply the grey cells too (assuming they are there!).
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December 31, 2023 at 2:44 AM
FI has listed out Dunk as an earner, which translates to anything from recovery to overflow. They didnt specify if it is indeed a ‘plus’ film.
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December 31, 2023 at 3:09 AM
“Typically they sell movies to half the production budget and rest to overseas” – Tiger 3 is a success by that yardstick. No mention of that on FI (incorrect imo).
“one can say he is lousy actor” – disagree 😜
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December 31, 2023 at 3:18 AM
Tiger 3 production budget is over 300cr…rising to 350cr..even if I assume they sold it for 150cr it’s still hardly breakeven…I have no clue why boi calls it a success
Yrf shelved 2 of their movies after tiger 3..that’s tell us about real fate of tiger 3
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December 31, 2023 at 3:45 AM
Which is the 2nd one shelved? War 2 is still on.
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December 31, 2023 at 3:52 AM
No more tiger 4..no more pathaan vs tiger
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December 31, 2023 at 4:11 AM
Most trade websites are calling it a huge underperformer. How is it a hit. Budget should include fee of the lead actors. If you take a simulated or assumed fee of Shshrukh khan of 100 cr it’s budget is 220 cr. Profit means theatrical profits not profits from other rights to be called a hit.
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December 31, 2023 at 4:15 AM
And Hiranis fee too. Wasn’t it supposed to be profitable for both Hirani and SRK from theatrical rights and performance?
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December 31, 2023 at 4:27 AM
General consensus is that of an Average/Semi Hit. Not more, not less. More of a moderate success.
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January 15, 2024 at 5:31 AM
1981 Trade Guide
A11:-
#Ek_Duuje_Ke_Liye
#Kranti
#Lawaris
#Love_story
#Naseeb
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February 14, 2024 at 9:19 PM
Trade Guide verdicts for 2000:
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February 14, 2024 at 9:21 PM
Taran Adarsh had Fiza as Overflow and Mission Kashmir as Commission. FI, I guess, will be one notch lower for both movies.
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February 14, 2024 at 10:07 PM
You’re posting Danish Raza now 🤣
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February 14, 2024 at 10:22 PM
These 2000 verdicts data is as per TG. Thats what matters.
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February 14, 2024 at 10:10 PM
Boi is truly hilarious in calling DHLJ, Yes Boss & Ram Jaane as Hits while Pardes is a Super Hit.. its like someone launching a random trade journal in 2044 & calling Fighter a Hit & Tiger 3/Dunki as blockbusters 👏
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February 14, 2024 at 10:24 PM
BOI verdicts i really dont care. They are meaningless and biased. Will take TG/FI any day over it.
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March 17, 2024 at 11:09 AM
1999 Trade Guide Verdicts:
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March 17, 2024 at 12:07 PM
@Munna – We now have all Trade Guide Yearly Verdicts/Classifications for 10 years between 1998-07. Afterwards he moved to twitter.
Let me know if you want to create a separate TG thread for the available data. I can compile and format it.
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March 17, 2024 at 2:23 PM
please put all Trade guide data as comment after-after in a thread. I will make a separate sticky thread for TG.
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