Film Information verdicts over the years
Here is collection of Film Information verdicts over years. This is not complete. If you have for missing year then please share as comment and it will be added to post with credits.
Please note there is no intention of copyright infringement and it is for informational purposes only. It is collected from different users and websites (Facebook Sanity Group, Syed Abid, NaachGaana.com, Bollybusiness, koimoi, Rediff, twitter and other websites).
2019
2018
2017
2016
2012 Thanks to Marcus…
2011
2010 Thanks to JC…
2009 Thanks to JC…
2008
2007
Year 2000, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006 – Source
2006 #FI Classifications
Blockbuster :-
Super-Duper-Hit :- Dhoom 2, Krrish
Super-Hit :- Lage Raho Munnabhai, Vivaah
Hit :- Fanaa, Malamaal Weekly
Semi-Hit :- Rang De Basanti, Phir Hera Pheri, Gangster
Overflow :-
Commission to
Overflow:- KANK, Don
Commission-Earner:- Aksar, Pyar Ke Side Effects, Apna Sapna Money Money, Bhagam Bhag, 36 China Town
Coverage :- Taxi 9211, Tom Dick and Harry, Golmaa, Kabul Express
Coverage :- Corporate, Anthony Kaun Hai, Khosla Ka Ghosla
2005 #FI Classifications
Blockbuster :-
Super-Duper-Hit :-
Super-Hit :- No Entry, Bunty Aur Babli
Hit :- Kyaa Kool Hai Hum
Semi-Hit :-
Overflow :- Dus, Zeher, Garam Masala
Commission-Earner to
Overflow:- Waqt – The Race Against Time, Sarkar, Maine Pyaar Kyun Kiya, Hanuman
Commission-Earner:- Kaal
Coverage to Commission-Earner :- Page 3, Black, Lucky No Time For Love, Parineeta, Iqbal, Salaam Namaste, Kalyug, Apaharan
2004 #FI Classifications
Blockbuster :-
Super-Duper-Hit :-
Super-Hit :-
Hit :- Veer-Zaara, Murder, Dhoom
Semi-Hit :- Main Hoon Na, Hum Tum
Overflow :- Julie, Mujhse Shaadi Karogi
Commission-Earner to Overflow:- Masti, Hulchul, Girlfriend
Commission-Earner:- Tauba Tauba
Coverage to Commission-Earner :- Hawas
Coverage :- Gayab, Vaastu Shastra
2003 #FI Classifications
Blockbuster :-
Super-Duper-Hit :-
Super-Hit :-
Hit :- Koi Mil Gaya
Semi-Hit :- Baghban, Andaaz
Overflow :- Kal Ho Na Ho, Chalte Chalte, Khwahish
Commission-Earner to Overflow:- Tere Naam, Qayamat, Humgama, Gangaajal, Ishq Vishk
Commission-Earner:- Jism, Bhoot
Coverage to Commission-Earner :- Munnabhai MBBS
Coverage :- Janasheen
2002 #FI Classifications
Blockbuster :-
Super-Duper-Hit :-
Super-Hit :-
Hit :- Raaz
Semi-Hit :-
Overflow :- Devdas, Ek Chotisi Love Story
Commission-Earner:- Mere Yaar Ki Shaadi Hai, 16 December, Awara Paagal Deewana, Humraaz, Yeh Dil Aashiqana, Deewangee, Saathiya
2001 #FI Classifications – Gamer RSK
Super duper hit:- Gadar
Hit:- Kabhi Khushi Kabhi Gham
Semi Hit:- Lagaan, Mujhe Kuch Kehna Hai
Overflow:- Indian
Commission Earner:- Chori Chori Chupke Chupke, Jodi No. 1, Dil Chahta Hai, Kasoor, Nayak, Pyar Tune Kya Kiya, Chhupa Rustom, Kasoor, Tum Bin, Style
Coverage To Commission:- Ek rishta, Ajnabee, Farz
2000 #FI Classifications
Blockbuster :-
Super-Duper-Hit :- Kaho Na Pyaar Hai
Super-Hit :-
Hit :- Mohabattein
Semi-Hit :-
Overflow :- Baadal, Kya Kehna
Commission-Earner:- Dhadkan, Fiza, Josh, Hamara Dil Aapke Paas Hai, Jungle, Kurukshetra, Mission Kashmir, Pukar, Refugee, Champion, Har Dil Jo Pyar Karega
1990-1999 – Thanks Marcus & Gamer RSK
1999 Page 1
1999 Page 2
1998
1997 – Thanks to Shetty @ BOE
1997 – Page2 – Thanks to Shetty @ BoE
1997 – Incomplete – Original
1996 – Page 1
1996 – Page2
1995
1994 – Page1
1994 – Page2
1994-Page3
1991
1987
1985 – Thanks to Shiva Prasad Shetty
1984
1982
SATYAMSHOT 
February 18, 2020 at 5:11 PM
Marcus – here is the treasure 🙂
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February 18, 2020 at 8:48 PM
Thanks Munna. Let me check if i have any missing ones.
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February 18, 2020 at 5:18 PM
Worth its weight in gold. Thanks Munna 👍
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February 18, 2020 at 6:06 PM
Kesari and Housefull 4 ratings are shocking!
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February 18, 2020 at 7:22 PM
Laughable indeed. What a joke of classifications here!
Bharat is completely forgotten too which made 200 Cr. 😀
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February 18, 2020 at 8:51 PM
Bharat and Dabangg 3 were in rest column.
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February 18, 2020 at 9:46 PM
Bharat which as per classification definition will to be a commission earner in the scans. But then if you give Bharat a commission earner how can u have Housefull 4 in same category.
Hence it has been conveniently omitted.
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February 19, 2020 at 12:00 AM
as would TOH, Race 3, Tubelight. The Akshay fanatic is shocked to know Khan flops are grossing more than Akshay Kumar so called hits
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February 19, 2020 at 12:17 AM
Sorry, Bharat is not a flop and is a HIT.
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February 19, 2020 at 12:24 AM
“Khan flops are grossing more than Akshay Kumar”
Haha…Not since last 1 and a half years.
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February 19, 2020 at 12:36 AM
Bharat has outgrossed all Akshay movies in 2019 despite being a flop
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Bollywood_films_of_2019#Box_office_collection
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February 18, 2020 at 9:59 PM
Quite a few Akshay movie are also correctly classified like Good Newwz, Gold, etc. it is not that it has been done for all his movies and.
Also it is not that it is done only for his movies. Few movies of every star has been inconsistently mentioned few notches less.
So i am not saying this is biased against any star. I am just saying that this is not as consistent as it used to be and carrying genuine mistakes.
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February 7, 2022 at 9:35 PM
Do you have baaghi (1990box office report?
According to Trade guide it was Hit and among top 5 Hgoty
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February 7, 2022 at 9:54 PM
Baaghi was a minor hit in 1990 and wud perhaps be overflow category in FI.
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February 18, 2020 at 7:20 PM
Big hits are pretty accurately captured here. But so are by most of the BO classifications by other sources. Issue comes with Hits/Superhit/SemiHit classifications.
Can see many Akshay’s movies given one classification less compared to other similar hits like Welcome, Toilet, Rustom, AIrlift, HF4, Kesari, Bhul Bhulaiya, Heyy Babyy, …they all are inaccurately classified.
There are few discrepancies in the ratings of others actors as well like Badla. It is surely one or two notches above.
Again the transparency would not come unless the Distributor cost is shared. We now pretty much know the nett collection and classification method.
This classification is not very popular among the trade experts, the way it used to be. The film distribution model has also changed every 5 years with several deals now included.
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February 18, 2020 at 8:19 PM
My Classifications 2019
-ATBB
Avengers End Game
-Blockbuster
Uri
Kabir Singh
War
Mission Mangal
-Superhit
Good Newwz
Dream Girl
Badla
Chichore
The Tashkent Files
-Hit
Housefull4
Total Dhamaal
Super 30
Kesari
Bala
Pati Patni aur wok
Lion King
Captain Marvel
Article 15
Luka chippi
Mardaani 2
Bharat (absent in this classification)
-Semi Hit
Dede Pyaar de
Marjaavan
Batla House
– Average to flop (in few sectors)
Dabangg3
Thackeray
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February 18, 2020 at 8:38 PM
LOL! No need for every member of this forum to give his own classification based on their own bias. Munna has shared something very valuable. Will refer to that. Thanks Munna.
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February 21, 2020 at 3:39 PM
I see most here agreeing to my classification of 2019 movies over anything else.
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February 22, 2020 at 5:14 PM
War and Mission Mangal both are Blockbusters. My classification ties them together and correctly.
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February 22, 2020 at 5:29 PM
My Classification gives Bharat a HIT and so does Taran
#EkHiSach💪
F1 doesn’t event classifies Bharat 🤣😜
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February 18, 2020 at 9:06 PM
@Munna – Here is 2012:
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February 18, 2020 at 9:13 PM
Thanks and updated!
if there are better scans of other years then please post.
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February 18, 2020 at 9:52 PM
Thanks Marcus. Was wondering about 2012.
Oh My Good is a semi Hit?
The ROI was over 200%. Again a clear case of devaluing it at least by one notch. here i would say couple of notches. And yes this is Akshay’s movie too.
Quite a few Akshay movie are also correctly classified like Good Newwz, Gold, etc. it is not that it has been done for all his movies and….
Also it is not that it is done only for his movies. Few movies of every star has been inconsistently mentioned few notches less.
So i am not saying this is biased against any star. I am just saying that this is not as consistent as it used to be and carrying genuine mistakes.
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February 19, 2020 at 8:29 AM
Do you even know how FI classifications work? Its circuit wise distribution cost vs share ratio. For a hit, the Roi per circuit is gotta be >100%. OMG was sold at relatively high rates to circuit distributors which implied producers made handsome profits while distributor profit was comparatively less. Producer profits are not considered in FI classification, hence its a Semi Hit.
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February 18, 2020 at 9:28 PM
Tag of commission earner suits Akshay Kumar most as he earns best yearly commission right Naveen?!? 🤔
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February 18, 2020 at 11:19 PM
his commission is earned by clashing with superstar movies (The Khans, Hrithik, Bansali, Ajay) and postponing for 10 cr each incident 🙂
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February 19, 2020 at 12:56 AM
Guys in process of deleting some unwanted comment now some comments which should be visible is not shown. And I don’t have bandwidth to see what has happened.
1. Refrain from multiple small comments. A longer comment should be preferred.
2. No personal comments.
3. Talk on topic.
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February 19, 2020 at 2:03 AM
Can I be given right to edit? I often find myself unable to.merge small comments into one or do grammar/ spell corrections.
Also little banter is fine I think. Little Provocation and replies are part of the blogging game. I wrote an award winning poetic reply to Jayshah and Yoddha. It is now moderated.
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February 19, 2020 at 2:23 AM
You have to become member and Satyam has admin rights.
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February 19, 2020 at 9:44 AM
So Airlift and Rustom were only Overflow? LMAO. Btw SRK fans would be pleased to see a clean hit to his credit in the last 5 years in DZ 😉
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February 19, 2020 at 11:01 AM
Always had both of them as Semi Hits in my books despite the media hyperbole. They’re nothing more than small time urban metropolitan successes.
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February 19, 2020 at 9:50 AM
Meanwhile here’s the FI Classification for 2009:
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February 19, 2020 at 9:52 AM
Not sure if it went to spam. Let me try again.
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February 19, 2020 at 10:55 AM
Still remember the controversy when certain orgasmic Salman fans could not accept a Commission verdict for the all time historic mega masterpiece of a movie called Wanted! Looking at Prabhu D(h)eva’s subsequent work, Wanted surely seems like a Titanic 🙂
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February 19, 2020 at 9:59 AM
And here’s the original FI Scan for 2010 that was put up on NG 🙂
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February 19, 2020 at 10:15 AM
Thanks Jimmy for the scans!
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February 19, 2020 at 11:29 AM
Thanks added to main post.
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February 19, 2020 at 8:06 PM
2013, 2014, 2015 scans missing for last decade. Dhoom3/Chennai Express, PK, BB The Beginning, BB, PRDP were the top moviee this period
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February 19, 2020 at 11:25 AM
All that I want to see now are the verdicts Nahta had for:
Lagaan
K3G (Remember him calling it an “Overflow film” in the media couple of weeks after it’s release)
Devdas
MHN
RDB
Krrish3
HNY
Everything else seems pretty clear for the major stars from 2000-2019.
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February 19, 2020 at 4:03 PM
Lagaan – Semi Hit
K3G – Hit
Devdas – Overflow
MHN – Semi Hit
RDB – Semi Hit
Krrish 3 – Hit
HNY – Hit
Don’t have the scans but remember them from NG updates and Koimoi’s a few years ago.
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February 19, 2020 at 7:52 PM
shivaay, what was your user name on NG?
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February 20, 2020 at 1:12 PM
I never commented there. Just used it as a BO reference and perhaps if I wanted to have a merry laugh after reading Danish’s commentary. **Edited**
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February 19, 2020 at 12:40 PM
If someone says JTHJ was hit and OMG was semit hit and SOS verdict was less than jthj. Something is wrong with his verdicts. It seems like he is talking about money made by producers by various rights and through subsidies etc, not about the theatrical run.
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February 19, 2020 at 12:54 PM
I think most of his verdicts are from distributors point of view…
I wish there was transparency in terms of how verdict was reached but typically it has been consistent and on stricter side.
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February 19, 2020 at 4:06 PM
If this is what you call strict, I wonder what you’d call my verdicts where I rate Kesari, Total Dhamaal & Super 30 as Average and War as a Hit, Badla being a Semi Hit 😛
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February 19, 2020 at 2:58 PM
Kabir Singh should have been in the Block Buster category … I am sure that ROI was much higher than WAR.
Surprises for me were- what I had in mind is in parenthesis .
1.Ki and Ka ( Flop)
2.Hum ( Superhit)
3. Wanted ( Clean hit)
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February 19, 2020 at 3:09 PM
Yash raj distribute their movies so they don’t incur much loss in any movie they make.
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February 19, 2020 at 5:50 PM
Agree on Kabir Singh, Hum and Wanted.
I am fine with strict classification as.long as they are consistently used. However just like all other sources. Here too we see few discrepencies in classification of movies. Of course it is less than what BOI gives.
Koimoi.com also does classification of movies which I think is worth a look.
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February 19, 2020 at 6:44 PM
Koimoi classifications are a joke. Let them get their numbers in order first. As for Wanted & Hum, FI is spot on. Wanted was sold for bumper rates by Boney Kapoor pre release & the numbers from A centers were underwhelming. Hum fetched record profits for producers but a few distributors hardly reached coverage in certain circuits. I wish we could have Yakuza or Shetty to elaborate on this.
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February 19, 2020 at 6:55 PM
http://movies.rediff.com/report/2009/sep/22/wanted-may-end-salmans-flop-run.htm
40-45 crore needed for recovery; BOI has 52.
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February 20, 2020 at 1:44 AM
We are missing a few years here. Hoping that someone can fill in the gaps. Bit surprising that scans of 2013, 2014 and 2015 are not available given that its only a few years back. Its understandable that nineties or early noughties scans will be difficult to get.
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February 20, 2020 at 3:56 AM
https://bollybusiness.wordpress.com/2010/06/02/boxoffice-lions-of-90s-based-on-nahtas-verdicts/
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February 20, 2020 at 4:41 AM
This is even more offensive for Akshay fans.
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February 20, 2020 at 5:43 AM
I read somewhere that Welcome was the first Akki movie to get a Hit status in FI after Mohra. In other words none of his movies from 1995-2006 got a Hit verdict by Nahta 😉 He has come a long way since then.
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February 20, 2020 at 5:57 AM
I guess people take offense mainly because they dont read these verdicts with proper perspective. Featuring in these lists means the movie has done good at the box office. Nahta’s ‘Coverage’ means Average at BO; his ‘Commission Earners’ are Above Average fares. Overflow means producer sharing profits beyond a point and these are basically ‘Hit’ films in common trade parlance. Nahta’s ‘A’ categories means the films have really done well, even though he starts by calling them Semi-Hits. That is why many commonly acknowledged superhit films are often found in this category.
His Hits are actually Superhits in common knowledge and Superhits are Blockbusters and so on and so forth. His classifications are strict in this sense that his labels are one or two notches below whats generally accepted. Otherwise these are the best classifications available in the entire industry. Nothing comes close.
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February 20, 2020 at 6:36 AM
Maybe Akshay fans will find solace if we reinterpret Nahta’s classification of his recent run into ‘common language’:
1. Airlift – Hit
2. Rustom – Hit
3. Housefull 3 – Above Average
4. Jolly LLB – Hit to Superhit
5. Toilet Ek Prem Katha – Hit to Superhit
6. 2.0 – Blockbuster
7. Pad Man – Above Average
8. Gold – Average
9. Good Newwz – Blockbuster
10. Mission Mangal – Blockbuster
11. Kesari – Hit
12. Housefull 4 – Above Average
Amen!
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February 20, 2020 at 7:37 PM
By this logic War, KS & Uri are Mega BB’s while movie marvels like Ghajini are ATBB’s and 3I, Dangal etc are ATBB’s of historic proportions while HAHK, BB2 are ATBB’s to the power of infinity.
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February 21, 2020 at 8:38 AM
Yes, the likes of Uri, KS or Sanju are mega blockbusters. However, komal puts hahk, bb2 in the same category as ghajini, 3I and dangal – he calls them movie marvels or wonders. It means historic grossers.
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February 21, 2020 at 3:47 PM
Because Nahta has run short of vocabulary for HAHK, BB2, Sholay etc. Any novice would know these 3 along with Mughal e Azam are the greatest Hindi BB’s ever, well ahead of 3I & Dangal and surely ahead of Ghajini which is nothing more than a Super Hit in my books (So are KS and Uri while War is just a Hit).
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February 21, 2020 at 3:43 PM
Marcus/Shivaay
By picking only Akshay’s movies you are.trying to make the wrong look right by suggesting I am picking Akshay’s movies differently. This kind of logic to score a silly point is quite common in social media space.
Please look at my 2019 classification. One can use any classification but the movies that are clubbed together should have same classification.
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February 21, 2020 at 7:58 PM
Good Newwz is superhit and is widely accepted. Noone cares about other classifications.
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February 20, 2020 at 10:10 AM
And tracking Aamir’s career with the lens of FI:
1. QSQT – Superhit to Blockbuster
2. Dil – Superhit to Blockbuster
3. DHKMN – Hit
4. JJWS – Average to Above Average
5. HHRPK – Hit to Superhit
6. AAA – Average to Above Average
7. Rangeela – Blockbuster
8. AHAT – Average
9. RH – Blockbuster to All Time Blockbuster
10.Ishq – Hit to Superhit
11.Ghulam – Hit
12.Sarfarosh – Hit
13.Lagaan – Hit to Superhit
14.DCH – Average to Above Average
15.RDB – Hit to Superhit
16.Fanaa – Superhit
17.TZP – Superhit
18.Ghajini – All Time Blockbuster
19.3I – All Time Blockbuster
20.DG – Above Average
21.Talaash – Hit to Superhit
22.D3 – All Time Blockbuster
23.PK – All Time Blockbuster
24.Dangal – All Time Blockbuster
25.SS – Superhit
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February 20, 2020 at 1:05 PM
DHKMN is Average, Ghulam/Sarfarosh are Semi Hits, Talaash is Semi Hit/Average, Rangeela is Super Hit, AAA is Below Average. Even I’m an Aamir fan but lets not do a Naveen here.
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February 20, 2020 at 1:42 PM
AAA was commission earner, same like MKTA
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February 20, 2020 at 5:47 PM
Sorry DHKMH was Overflow.
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February 20, 2020 at 5:46 PM
DHKMH – Semihit
Ghulam – Overflow
Sarfarosh- Overflow
Talaash – Semihit
Rangeela – Superhit
AAA – commission Earner
These are official Nahta verdicts. Read my post on reinterpretation in common language. I am not inconsistent like Naveen.
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February 20, 2020 at 5:56 PM
Sorry DHKMN was Overflow, same as ghulam and sarfarosh.
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February 20, 2020 at 6:27 AM
The Hum box office was a hoax by Nahta. It was widely known back then that he was filrmly in Anil kapoor’s camp, probably being bribed by Boney Kapoor. He was making claims that Bachan had bought most of the tickets for Hum to bolster the collections. His BO classification merely reflects that claim, and not the collections reported.
At the end of the day, the figures on Trade Guide and Film Information told another story. The film had a % occupancy of 100% almost all over in its first week. I had seen the collections of the film with my own eyes back then and they were humongous during its few weeks.
Just goes on to show that Indian BO reporting never ever really was reliable. There were hidden agendas and camps.
In the whole history of Bollywood, nothing has been more scandalous than the BO reporting of Devdas. There were unbelievable stunts to hide the truth and the classification given could beat any Papa Roshan calculator.
Those who were following it back then would know about it. Is there any scan for 2002 in there? I would be intrigued to see that.
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February 20, 2020 at 6:32 AM
BOI themselves had Devdas at BB (Overflow) or A (SemiHit) for a looong time. Unsurprisingly that was changed to Hit. It’s Net Total went from around 28-29 Cr initially to 41+ Cr currently 🙂
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February 20, 2020 at 1:10 PM
Kal Ho na Ho too is Semi hit. Still stands for me. Devdas upon release was nothing more than Commission for distributors (loser for few). Nahta elevated it to Overflow just like he elevated Ghajini to Super Duper despite Ghajini barely hitting overflow in some circuits, thanks to its record fetching price. War & S30 bo performance as well as audience acceptance proves HR would be much better off without Papa Roshan (whose anyways neither directed, nor produced a worthwhile film with him after KNPH & KMG). Comscore or Boxofficemojo is the kinda stuff Bollywood needs.
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February 22, 2020 at 6:44 PM
So Kal No Na No (a bona fide superhit) and Talaash (god knows what it was but definitely not a hit) both have same classification?
Were ROI same?
Please prove.
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February 23, 2020 at 2:44 AM
I had seen BO results of 2003 through both BOI and IBOS and Taran’s numbers. I had kept it as record for a long time just to prove to a friend how big a hit Baghban was.
BOI have since the ‘manipulated’ the final numbers. If one has access to the original numbers, he may confirm. But there has been serious manipulation of final numbers since then!
These were roughly as follows:
1. KMG- 42cr (FI had it at 40cr)- Nahta claimed it had done half the business of Gadar (which was the benchmark back then).
2. KHNH- 33cr
3. The Hero- 25cr
4. Munnabhai- 22cr
5 Baghban-20cr (IBOS had it slightly higher than MBBS, but I think BOI were more accurate there)
6. Chalte Chalte- 16cr
KHNH was the 2nd highest grosser of the year. By contrast, Talaash was its year’s 9th or 10th (depending on SOS’s final figures where there was huge disagreement). That year’s highest grosser was ETT whose collections were twice that of Talaash.
As good as Talaash was as a film and as much as I hate KHNH, it should not be in the same classification of Talaash. There is a lack of consistency somewhere, even if Nahta and FI in recent times have been quite reliable.
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February 23, 2020 at 3:30 AM
I think it is not as simple by just looking at final Nett or grosses…
If my cost is X and revenue is Y then it simple deduction.
I sell my movie to a distributor for Z which could be less than X or more than X.
In old days exhibition was main source of revenue but nowadays you have other source of revenues.
Additional complexity comes with Z being sold to different sub distributors..
FI ratings are based on Z or subditributors cost and revenue..
NETT cannot be used for classification because it contain exhibitors opportunity cost which is not part of cost anywhere.
Distributor Share has to be used which flows back to people who have invested.
LAK is classic example, movie has made more than cost of making for producers but it was sold high to distributors so it would be classified flop for distributors.
Question is, is movie Hit or flop for distrutor, producer or target audience..
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February 23, 2020 at 3:41 AM
Target audience IMO. This is about expectations in long game. One can actually do both. An economic or business result plus a performance metric. Do I really care about former? The X, Y or Z doesn’t impact consumers at all.
I would bet 95% of classifications can be determined by a trend. Take a multiple of sorts and it will work. The rest is so murky. In basic terms some kind of relationship between opening weekend to final nett is enough. Only in rare instances will it fail. X, Y and Z fails all the time it seems. Especially when those numbers are not known or disclosed. Netts are.
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February 23, 2020 at 3:57 AM
Economics and target audience are connected; I cannot invest 200 crore for a small audience.
Also when I invest, I want to sell at certain price point. I think disconnect happens when buyer is buying based on factors like reputation, last movies, sequels which are no way related to quality of movie made. There are exceptions where bad movies could do well but extraneous factors decide distributor’s decisions.
For audience, I think trending is a good metric. For producer, return of investment. For distributor, return of the invested money.
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February 23, 2020 at 4:17 AM
First sentence is so true. There will be a correlation.
For controversial verdicts
Dch- average
Mangal Pandey- flop
Talaash- average
Khnh- Hit
Ra.1- flop
Devdas- Hit
Gold- average
Padman- average
Tubelight, race3- flop
Bharat- average
Do we need many verdicts? Who picks up phone and says to aunty housefull 4 is overflow you should watch it? Utter nonsense.
Disaster
Flop
Average
Hit
Superhit
Blockbuster
6 should cover everything, for common man to technical trade guy.
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February 23, 2020 at 7:01 AM
@Naveen : Talaash is Average in my books while KHNH which was nothing more than a metropolitan hit during release (a mega budget production at that) is a Semi Hit imo.
@Munna : Audience verdict is the ultimate factor imo. Every movie has a production cost (market value) the the ratio of final nett : market value coupled with bo trending is good enough indication for an audience verdict. FI & Boi ratings are irrelevant for the audience at large. Based on nett : market value ratio & bo trend, my classifications for 2019 are as follows :
SUPER HIT :
1. Kabir Singh :
All India nett : ₹ 276 Cr (Budget : ₹ 60 Cr)
All India footfall : 2 Cr+
2. Uri The Surgical Strike :
All India nett : ₹ 244 Cr (Budget : ₹ 40 Cr)
All India footfall : 1.8 Cr+
HIT :
1. War :
All India nett : ₹ 306 Cr including dubbed (₹ 294 Cr Hindi) (Budget : ₹ 180 Cr)
All India footfall : 2 – 2.5 Cr
2. Good Newz :
All India nett : ₹ – Cr
All India footfall : – Cr+
3. Mission Mangal :
All India nett : ₹ 195 Cr (Budget : ₹ 75 Cr)
All India footfall : 1.4 Cr+
4. Chhichhore :
All India nett : ₹ 148 Cr (Budget : ₹ 40 Cr)
All India footfall : 1 Cr+
5. Dream Girl :
All India nett : ₹ 138 Cr (Budget : ₹ 32 Cr)
All India footfall : 1 Cr+
6. Bala :
All India nett : ₹ 112 Cr (Budget : ₹ 35 Cr)
All India footfall : 80 Lakh+
SEMI HIT :
1. Housefull 4 :
All India nett : ₹ 203 Cr (Budget : ₹ 140 Cr)
All India footfall : 1.5 Cr+
2. Badla :
All India nett : ₹ 87 Cr (Budget : ₹ 30 Cr)
All India footfall : 60 Lakh+
3. Luka Chuppi :
All India nett : ₹ 87 Cr (Budget : ₹ 30 Cr)
All India footfall : 60 Lakh+
4. Pati Patni Aur Woh :
All India nett : ₹ 81 Cr (Budget : ₹ 36 Cr)
All India footfall : 50 Lakh+
AVERAGE :
1. Saaho :
All India nett : ₹ 303 Cr All Versions (₹ 150 Cr Hindi) (Budget : ₹ 300 Cr)
All India footfall : 2 – 2.5 Cr
2. Kesari :
All India nett : ₹ 152 Cr (Budget : ₹ 100 Cr)
All India footfall : 1 – 1.25 Cr
3. Total Dhamaal :
All India nett : ₹ 150 Cr (Budget : ₹ 100 Cr)
All India footfall : 1 – 1.25 Cr
4. Super 30 :
All India nett : ₹ 147 Cr (Budget : ₹ 100 Cr)
All India footfall : 1 Cr+
5. Gully Boy :
All India nett : ₹ 134 Cr (Budget : ₹ 80 Cr)
All India footfall : 90 Lakh+
6. Batla House :
All India nett : ₹ 88 Cr (Budget : ₹ 50 Cr)
All India footfall : 60 Lakh+
7. Article 15 :
All India nett : ₹ 63 Cr (Budget : ₹ 30 Cr)
All India footfall : 40 Lakh+
8. Mardaani 2 :
All India nett : ₹ 45 Cr (Budget : ₹ 25 Cr)
All India footfall : 30 Lakh+
9. The Tashkent Files :
All India nett : ₹ 16 Cr (Budget : ₹ 8 Cr)
All India footfall : 10 Lakh+
BELOW AVERAGE :
1. Bharat :
All India nett : ₹ 196 Cr (Budget : ₹ 175 Cr)
All India footfall : 1.4 Cr+
2. De De Pyaar De :
All India nett : ₹ 93 Cr (Budget : ₹ 75 Cr)
All India footfall : 60 lakh+
3. Marjaavan :
All India nett : ₹ 46 Cr (Budget : ₹ 32 Cr)
All India footfall : 30 Lakh+
4. Commando 3 :
All India nett : ₹ 33 Cr (Budget : ₹ 25 Cr)
All India footfall : 20 Lakh+
Footfalls are vague estimates. No attempt to manipulate to the last decimal like BOI.
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February 20, 2020 at 6:38 AM
Nahta’s dumbed down media commentary is another joke. But FI classifications make more sense than anything else out there. Devdas was overflow or commission earner.
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February 20, 2020 at 2:01 PM
DHKMN is an interesting one. I remember I had an argument once over Sunny Deol’s BO record in the 90s when I claimed that Dil Hai Ki Manta Nahin, Narsimha and Henna’s box office were at par. I had seen the collections and Narsimha’s and DHKKN’s collections at the time of release were at par while Henna’s was slightly inferior in some circuits. Henna obtained Tax exemptions in some circuits. Narsimha had started off at 95% in Mumbai and Delhi-UP.
But the perception in some quarters is that DHKMN and Henna were hits while Narsimha was less than that. Sunny Deol’s movies were quite strong in the 90s. Ziddi for e.g. was much bigger in reality than perception-wise right now. Nahta’s classification also shows that.
When a star fades, his success looks lesser. One can also see many films with Aamir, Salman and Akshay or SRK were not as strong in the 90s as it looks perception-wise these days.
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February 20, 2020 at 2:48 PM
If not for HAHK and DDLJ, Sunny would easily be the biggest superstar of the 90’s till 2001. His box office record through the 90’s was enviable and stuff of genuine stardom.
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February 20, 2020 at 4:37 PM
Even Govinda did very good in 90s.
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February 21, 2020 at 3:46 PM
The classification criteria is fine.
Problem.is in clubbing few movies in categories which are different from their box office performance.
The search for a reasonable accurate BO source continues for classification.
The course that give the numbers fairly correctly does the classification wrong.
The one that get the numbers wrong, do the classifications right.
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February 21, 2020 at 8:11 PM
I reject F1 classifications of recent years.
As I have been saying we have different credible sources for Box office
Box office numbers – BOI 95% right, Producers/Taran 90% right, Komal 85% right
Classifications – Taran 90% right, Komal/F1 85% right, BOI 70% right
Overall Taran remains the undisputed expert when it comes to what is most acceptable by industry, filmmakers, distributors and exhibitors.
Till 90s Komal used to lead. But he lost way somewhere. He is getting back now.
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February 22, 2020 at 5:09 PM
Here is the right classification for MM.
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February 22, 2020 at 5:40 PM
Have shared the classification by Taran for War and Bharat above where I have given my classification for 2019 movies. Makes my classification par excellence vis a vis F1.
F1 can call War a Super Duper HIT but then have to classify all movies where ROI is same as Super Duper HIT. So Mission Mangal also becomes a Super Duper HIT. They have wrongly given it a notch lower. I am exposing the incorrectness here.
Ignoring Bharat to not consider it to be even in average status is crime. It is HIT according to my classification and would qualify to be at least a Commission earner here though Semi Hit would be deserving.
Kesari, Housefull 4 have also been given absurd classification.
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February 23, 2020 at 7:27 AM
Blast from the past 😉
https://web.archive.org/web/20150618080724/http://www.naachgaana.com/2011/07/31/komal-nahta-film-verdicts/
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February 24, 2020 at 3:45 AM
Not sure all data is correct..
https://www.outlookindia.com/magazine/story/the-hit-riddle/227746
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February 24, 2020 at 4:58 AM
There are mismatches here. Like Ghajini for example.
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February 24, 2020 at 3:46 AM
https://www.bollywoodhungama.com/news/bollywood/classification-and-statistics-of-films-from-jan-june-2001/
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February 24, 2020 at 4:56 AM
Are these classifications from Film Information or Trade Guide? Never seen scans of TG classifications. I wish they were available too.
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February 24, 2020 at 7:10 AM
FI, TG and BOI, they all have changed methodology and classifications over years and decades. None of them are accurate or consistent and surely not reliable, although FI might be the closest to consistency despite discrepencies.
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February 24, 2020 at 9:11 AM
In India, there is lack of transparency in BO figures and Distributor Prices per territory. So just like BO numbers need to be taken with a pinch of salt, so do verdicts. I usually prefer Taran for numbers and Komal for verdicts. BOI is also serves as a reference.
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January 9, 2023 at 6:32 AM
@Munna – Where did you get these complete TG classicifications for 2001? The link you have posted has only hal-year verdicts; but you have posted full year. What is your source?
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January 9, 2023 at 11:34 AM
My mistake…I edited my comment couple of days back when I encountered this link.
https://www.bollywoodhungama.com/news/box-office-business-talk/2001-a-disastrous-year/
Trade Guide verdicts for 2001
CLASSIFICATION OF FILMS 2001 – TOTAL RELEASES: 230
A11 (Super-Duper Hit)
Gadar (Historic in Delhi, U.P., Punjab)
A1 (Super Hit)
Kabhi Khushi Kabhie Gham (‘A11’ in Mumbai, South, Overseas)
Lagaan (‘A11’ in Mumbai, South, Overseas)
A (Hit)
Chandni Bar (Mumbai, South)
Dil Chahta Hai (Mumbai, South, Overseas only)
Mujhe Kucch Kehna Hai
Jodi No. 1 (better in Mumbai, Delhi, U.P.)
The Mummy Returns (dub.)
+B (Overflow)
Chori Chori Chupke Chupke (‘A’ in Mumbai, South)
Chhupa Rustam (‘A’ in Bihar; Commission Earner to Overflow in some territories)
Indian (‘A’ in Delhi, U.P., Punjab)
Kasoor (Mumbai, South)
Ek Rishtaa (Mumbai, Delhi, U.P., Rajasthan)
Tum Bin
Good B (Commission to Overflow)
Ajnabee (Mumbai, South)
Albela (Mumbai, Delhi, U.P.)
Pyaar Tune Kya Kiya (Mumbai)
Farz (North India)
Love Ke Liye Kuch Bhi Karega (Mumbai)
Monsoon Wedding (dub.; Mumbai, Delhi, U.P.)
Style
B (Coverage to Commission)
Rehnaa Hai Terre Dil Mein
STATISTICS AT A GLANCE
Releases: 219
Hit to Average Films: 21 (9.59%)
Losers: 198 (90.41%)
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January 9, 2023 at 12:13 PM
Inconsistent verdicts. Even Boi has more consistency than TG. K3G is a HIT as per FI & so is Mujhe Kuch.. Lagaan is Semi Hit and DCH is a commission. Someone needs to dig NG archives.
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January 9, 2023 at 12:35 PM
Some NG member made up those verdicts and called them FI verdicts. We dont know FI’s verdicts for Lagaan or DCH for sure.
I have told Munna previously to remove those made-up verdicts for 2000-2006.
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January 9, 2023 at 12:00 PM
Great! Thanks for the link.
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February 24, 2020 at 8:59 AM
2002:
https://www.bollywoodhungama.com/news/bollywood/classification-of-movies-of-2002/?utm_source=bhsearch
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February 26, 2020 at 9:21 AM
@Munna – Here is complete classification for 1999:
https://imgur.com/di6ZDVy
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February 26, 2020 at 11:40 AM
I think I saw this but it was more of collecting rediff data and rewriting it in standard FI format.
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February 26, 2020 at 12:06 PM
What were FI verdicts for Dhoom 3 and PK?
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February 26, 2020 at 12:09 PM
Super Duper hits
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February 26, 2020 at 12:56 PM
Where did you see the scans? Maybe we can look up web archives.
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February 26, 2020 at 12:46 PM
Rediff link is cited at bottom.
http://forums.itsboxoffice.com/390537/lets-have-look-at-1999-year-round-film-information-magazine
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February 26, 2020 at 11:47 AM
BOI 2003 QA when they talked like FilmInformation…
https://boxofficeindiarecords.blogspot.com/2016/09/boxofficeindia-you-asked-it-2003.html
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February 26, 2020 at 12:07 PM
https://www.tribuneindia.com/2000/20001224/spectrum/film.htm
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February 27, 2020 at 6:23 PM
This thread is now in sidebar for easy access.
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June 28, 2020 at 11:43 AM
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June 28, 2020 at 11:44 AM
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May 31, 2021 at 7:37 AM
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July 8, 2021 at 4:32 PM
IndiaFM 1998
BOI old 1998
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January 29, 2022 at 10:56 PM
Do You Have indiafm 1996/1997 archive?
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January 30, 2022 at 5:04 AM
They registered their domain in mid -1998.
First archives are from 1999.
https://who.is/whois/indiafm.com
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January 12, 2023 at 5:27 AM
@Munna – Since Indiafm was registered mid-98 as you said, can you please also check if you can find Taran Adarsh’s classifications for 98,99 & 00 from the indiafm archives?
I have been trying, but frankly i am no good with webarchives searching … Thanks in advance.
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September 11, 2021 at 4:39 PM
Added 1985 – Thanks to Shiv Shetty at Boxoffice Expert; He comments here with a different screen name.
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September 29, 2021 at 1:51 PM
Sholay cost from Indian revenue service:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EREd5RHVUAAkrze?format=jpg&name=large
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December 31, 2021 at 4:19 AM
CLASSIFICATION: 1996
(Total 125 films, including 29 dubbed films)
Movie Marvel Of The Year
RAJA HINDUSTANI
AA (Super Hit)
–
A1 (Hit)
SAAJAN CHALE SASURAL
AGNI SAKSHI (‘AAA‘ in Maharashtra)
BANDIT QUEEN
A (Semi-Hit)
GHATAK (‘BB‘ in Eastern Circuit)
JEET (‘B1‘ in Eastern Circuit)
BB (Overflow)
Hindustani (dubbed; ‘AAA‘ in Maharashtra, losing in Rajasthan)
Jaan (‘A‘ in Delhi-U.P. & East Punjab)
Khiladiyon Ka Khiladi
Commission To Overflow
Masoom (‘A‘ in Maharashtra)
Loafer
Diljale (losing in some circuits)
Raja Ki Aayegi Baaraat (losing in some circuits; ‘BB‘ in Bihar & C.P. Berar)
Tere Mere Sapne (‘A‘ in Bombay & losing in Eastern Circuit)
Fareb (‘A‘ in Maharashtra)
B1 (Commission Earner)
Antim Yudh (dubbed; ‘BB‘ in South)
Coverage To Commission
Ek Bandar Hotel Ke Andar (dubbed)
Chaahat
Army
Mission: Impossible (dubbed)
Mita Doonga Naam-O-Nishan (dubbed)
https://filminformation.com/featured/flashback-31-december-2021-from-our-issue-dated-4th-january-1997/
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February 8, 2022 at 5:07 AM
Are the 2020-21 classifications available?
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February 8, 2022 at 7:29 AM
No dude, komal did not publish FI classifications for 20 or 21.
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January 2, 2022 at 1:06 PM
1997
https://www.rediff.com/movies/1998/feb/02hit.htm
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February 7, 2022 at 9:47 PM
Just going through this thread….**Edited**.
Classification of 2019 movies had several flaws and what Taran gave was most consistent.
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February 8, 2022 at 5:06 AM
Kesari, HF4 are not successful beyond their Average status. Fact it is. Taran’s only capable of a copy paste job from boi.
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February 8, 2022 at 7:34 AM
I dont think its fair to call Kesari or HF4 as averages. Komal has HF4 as Commission Earner, which is above average in common language. Kesari is overflow, which is as good as a minor hit. Nothing wrong in 2019 FI classifications – its the best and most consistent verdicts given for that year.
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February 10, 2022 at 11:10 AM
1990 Film Information Verdict
Superhit
Dil, Ghayal
Hit
Aaj Ka Arjun, Aashiqui
Semi Hit
Baaghi
Overflow
Kishen Kanhaiya, Thanedaar, Baap Numbri Beta Dus Numbri
Commission Earner
Ghar Ho Toh Aisa,Swarg, Shiva, Police Public, Pratibandh
Coverage To Commission
Izzatdaar, Veeru Dada
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February 10, 2022 at 11:20 AM
Thanks a bunch! Whats the source, if u dont mind?
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February 10, 2022 at 11:41 AM
Also, do u have FI verdicts for 1992 and 1993?
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February 10, 2022 at 12:20 PM
Aankhen was Super Duper and Khal Nayak was Super Hit in 1993 while Baazigar and Darr were Hits. Not sure about the rest.
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February 10, 2022 at 9:43 PM
The big hits are obvious, but i am more interested in the verdicts given to smaller ones like Deewana, Raju Ban Gaya Gentleman, JJWS, HHRPK, etc … like its good to know that salman’s second film Baaghi was. Semi-hit.
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February 11, 2022 at 12:21 AM
Deewana – Hit, JJWS – Commission, HHRPK was overflow.
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February 11, 2022 at 1:39 AM
Deewana was a Hit by FI? Good to know.
Seen HHRPK to a Semi-Hit somewhere, not sure.
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February 11, 2022 at 2:56 AM
Yes Deewana was a Hit and HHRPK was semi hit. Check BOIs 2003-04 archives for more FI verdicts (before boi went into manipulation mode).
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February 11, 2022 at 3:23 AM
Even those archives are consistent with FI classifications. BOI had always twisted verdicts based on their star preferences. These days the bias is more pronounced.
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February 11, 2022 at 4:04 AM
For example, BOI previous classification of DHKMN was ‘Average’. I was under the impression that it was a commission earner in FI terms. However, when i finally saw FI 1991 scan, DHKMN was actually in overflow category.
Similarly prev BOI classification had JJWS also as ‘Average’. I am really interested to know the actual FI classification for JJWS – was it actually commission earner or overflow? Not that it matters much, given the extraordinary shelf-life of that particular film. However, BOI had systematically downgraded Aamir’s films before Ghajini happened, and since then they have been slowly in self-correction mode.
HHRPK was semi-hit by FI classification, i think i have seen that in Yakuza’s blog sometime back.
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February 11, 2022 at 1:20 AM
15 years of Ranbir Kapoor (2007-2021) from FI lens:
1. Bachna Ae Haseeno – Commission Earner
2. Ajab Prem Ki Ghazab Kahani – Commission Earner
3. Raajneeti – Overflow
4. Barfi – Hit
5. Yeh Jawaani Hai Deewani – Superhit
6. Ae Dil Hai Mushkil – Semi-Hit
7. Sanju – SuperDuperHit
Must say that the Shehzaada falls short quite a bit of what the Khans individually achieved in their first 15 years in the industry.
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February 11, 2022 at 2:58 AM
He is nowhere near even Roshan, forget Khans.
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February 11, 2022 at 3:17 AM
True, Roshan has done better than this in his first 15 years (2000-2014).
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February 11, 2022 at 5:20 AM
Super Duper – KNPH, Krrish, Dhoom 2, War
Hit – KMG, Agneepath, Krrish 3, Super 30.
I’d wanna know if Akshay or Ajay have anything close.
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February 11, 2022 at 7:18 AM
I think K3G was also Hit or Superhit (not sure) as per FI. He also has some commission earners in Fiza, MK, JA, ZNMD and BB.
An impressive BO record overall.
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February 11, 2022 at 9:13 AM
ZNMD is a surprise. I expected that to be higher.
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February 11, 2022 at 7:55 PM
Most excel films are commission earners as they cater well to niche multiplex audience, but are usually made with handsome budgets featuring foreign locales. Be it DCH, Don, Don 2 or ZNMD. Only their films shot in India with a controlled budget has got higher verdicts, like Talaash is a semi-hit.
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February 12, 2022 at 9:17 AM
1992 Film information
Superhit
Beta
Hit
Deewana
Shola Aur Shabnam
Jigar
Semi Hit
Bol Radha Bol
Overflow
Tehalka
Khiladi
Commission Earner
Jo Jeeta Wahi Sikandar
Police officer
Angaar
Coverage To Commission Earner
Khuda Gawah
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February 11, 2022 at 4:15 AM
Since we are missing FI scans for 2013 and 2014, here are Koimoi verdicts for these 2 years:
2013 – https://www.koimoi.com/box-office/box-office-bollywood-films-of-2013/
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February 11, 2022 at 5:17 AM
Koimoi verdicts are a waste of time. Even worse than BOIs. Tubelight = Average as per them.
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February 11, 2022 at 7:38 AM
If only we cud get the missing years’ scans from FI … Anyways, this is already a great database we have in this thread.
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February 11, 2022 at 2:57 PM
Subscription charges for FI are 3.5K per month.
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February 11, 2022 at 4:15 AM
2014 – https://www.koimoi.com/box-office-bollywood-films-of-2014/
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February 11, 2022 at 4:25 AM
Another missing year substitute:
2015 – https://www.koimoi.com/box-office/hits-flops/verdict-2015/
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February 12, 2022 at 9:21 AM
1992 Film information
Superhit
Beta
Hit
Deewana
Shola Aur Shabnam
Jigar
Semi Hit
Bol Radha Bol
Overflow
Tehalka
Khiladi
Commission Earner
Jo Jeeta Wahi Sikandar
Police officer
Angaar
Coverage To Commission Earner
Khuda Gawah
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February 12, 2022 at 9:22 AM
Thanks!
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February 12, 2022 at 9:23 AM
What’s your insta id dude!
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February 12, 2022 at 9:27 AM
Hey are you subscribed to FI?
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February 12, 2022 at 9:58 AM
previously I had the FI subscription but not now but i have FI verdicts saved in my laptop
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February 12, 2022 at 9:32 AM
I am not in insta, but available at:
marcus25.writes@gmail.com
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February 12, 2022 at 9:39 AM
Mine is amanbasha230
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February 12, 2022 at 10:00 AM
Do you hv verdicts for 97 and 99 and 01 handy? Please post them too!
Thanks in advance.
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February 12, 2022 at 10:13 AM
I have to see on my laptop for FI verdicts of 1997 and 2001 will give u at around 9:30 now I am busy
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February 12, 2022 at 10:18 AM
Sure, thanks a bunch!
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February 12, 2022 at 10:35 AM
1997 Film Information and Top heroes /Heroines
Superhit
Border
Dil Toh Pagal Hai
Hit
Gupt
Hero No. 1
Ziddi
Judai
Semi Hit
Virasat
Ishq
Chachi 420
Overflow
Pardes
Deewana Mastana
Aastha
Yes Boss
Yeshwant
Bhai
Commission Earner
Koyla
Kaalia
Shapath
Top Actor
1.Sunny Deol
2.Shahrukh Khan
3.Anil Kapoor
4.Salman Khan
5.Aamir Khan
Top Heroine
1.Karishma Kapoor
2.Kajol
3.Juhi Chawla
4.Manisha Koirala
5.Madhuri Dixit
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February 12, 2022 at 10:48 AM
Great! You have made our day today …
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February 12, 2022 at 10:53 AM
Edit this verdict on a white paper and post it in satyamshot so everyone people can know about it
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February 12, 2022 at 10:17 PM
Will do so…Alternatively you can create it with own watermark, I will upload it here.
Bollybusiness FI 90’s data below (Yakuza use to comment here):
https://web.archive.org/web/20110628215436/https://bollybusiness.wordpress.com/2010/06/02/boxoffice-lions-of-90s-based-on-nahtas-verdicts/
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February 13, 2022 at 1:14 AM
Shola aur shabnam, jigar, khalnayak and aankhen verdict is wrong given by Yakuza
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February 13, 2022 at 1:14 AM
Shola aur shabnam, jigar, khalnayak and aankhen verdict is wrong given by Yakuza
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February 12, 2022 at 11:49 AM
@GAMER RSK – I have already asked our mod (Munna) to put all the data you have shared in the main post for better visibility.
Thanks for everything! If possible do post the 2001 classifications too if its not too much trouble … Inparticular I am interested to know whether FI had Lagaan in SemiHit or Hit category?
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February 12, 2022 at 2:09 PM
2001 Film information
Super duper hit
Gadar
Hit
Kabhi Khushi Kabhi Gham
Semi Hit
Lagaan
Mujhe Kuch Kehna Hai
Overflow
Indian
Commission Earner
Chori Chori Chupke Chupke
Jodi No. 1
Dil Chahta Hai
Kasoor
Nayak
Pyar Tune Kya Kiya
Chhupa Rustom
Kasoor
Tum Bin
Style
Coverage To Commission
Ek rishta
Ajnabee
Farz
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February 12, 2022 at 2:14 PM
In 1997FI I forgot to add Judwaa in hit section. My mistake 😅
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February 12, 2022 at 2:15 PM
In 1997 film information I forgot to add Judwaa in hit section. My mistake 😅
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February 13, 2022 at 1:21 AM
Yakuza is unlikely to have all years verdicts. You said u had FI subscription. For what duration did you have?
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February 12, 2022 at 9:37 AM
1993 Film information
Super Duper Hit
Aankhen
Superhit
Khalnayak
Hit
Darr
Baazigar
Phool Aur Angaar
Semi Hit
Hum Hai Rahi Pyar Ke
Overflow
Damini
Anari
Dalaal
Lootere
Commission Earner
Gardish
Gumrah
Aaina
Coverage To Commission
Muqabala
Roja
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February 12, 2022 at 9:36 AM
1993
Super Duper Hit
Aankhen
Superhit
Khalnayak
Hit
Darr
Baazigar
Phool Aur Angaar
Semi Hit
Hum Hai Rahi Pyar Ke
Overflow
Damini
Anari
Dalaal
Lootere
Commission Earner
Gardish
Gumrah
Aaina
Coverage To Commission
Muqabala
Roja
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February 12, 2022 at 9:39 AM
Thanks again. I have been looking for the FI verdicts for 92, 93 for sometime now.
Great to have you here!
@Munna – I think we can add the classifications for 90, 92 and 93 as provided by GAMER RSK to the main post.
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February 12, 2022 at 6:58 PM
@Gamer RKS – Do you have FI verdicts for recent years like 2013, 2014 and 2015? We are missing those too.
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February 12, 2022 at 9:53 AM
1997 complete classification as per Rediff (with prices, profits and losses0:
https://www.rediff.com/movies/1998/feb/02hit.htm
Super-Duper Hit
Border
Super Hit
Dil Toh Pagal Hai
Pardes (?)
Hit
Yes Boss
Gupt
Ziddi
Judwaa
Judaai
Hero No 1
Virasat
Ishq
Chachi 420
Also Ran (whatever it’s supposed to mean)
Deewana Mastana
Mr and Mrs Khiladi
Bhai
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February 12, 2022 at 9:59 AM
Pardes ,deewana mastana and ishq were overflow
Virasat was semi hit
Border was just superhit
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February 12, 2022 at 10:09 AM
if you have screenshots of the FI classifications, I have my insta id?
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February 12, 2022 at 10:24 AM
And Pardes is manipulated to Super Hit proportions by BOI.. holy smoke!
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February 12, 2022 at 9:53 PM
I remember pardes didn’t work expect for 3-4cities overall it was not even a clean hit
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February 12, 2022 at 9:53 PM
I remember pardes didn’t work expect for 3-4cities overall it was not even a clean hit
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February 12, 2022 at 10:00 PM
@GAMER RSK – Do u hv verdicts of 2013, 2014 and 2015?
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February 12, 2022 at 10:11 AM
Aman, Rediff and TG also used to talk in terms of overflow and commission earners but their verdicts wud be different from FI. We have the rediff verdicts for year 97 and 99 in this thread, but we are missing the FI classifications. I am hoping that Gamer Rsk can dill these gaps too if he has these years too. In that case our nineties classifications wud be complete.
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February 12, 2022 at 10:27 AM
If anyone can contact Yakuza aka YakuzaZoomin, he’s got the data for the 70s and 80s.
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February 12, 2022 at 4:10 PM
First the letters arrived: “Warning No.l: if you release Shahenshah we will set your cinema on fire.” Then, a telephone call: “You did not heed our warning, now face the consequences.” So on February 12, when Shahenshah was finally released, 250 cinema owners across the country had protected themselves against the threat with truck-loads of Sten gun-wielding policemen.
What came instead was a human tidal wave. The advance booking for Amitabh Bachchan’s controversial come-back film shattered all records and in some cases, the windows of booking counters. In Shiela cinema, in the heart of Delhi, a crowd of 20,000 people began collecting from 9 a.m. onwards for the first show. “It was larger than anything anyone can remember. Twenty, thirty times larger,” said the owner, Ajay Kaushish.
Never perhaps has there been so much anticipation before a film. On one hand, youth wings of several opposition parties had sworn they would not let the film be released as they considered Amitabh a symbol of corruption. On the other hand, the film industry itself was nervous enough. Would the film survive the threats – and the expectations? As a safety measure, director Tinnu Anand crossed his fingers and released Shahenshah simultaneously across the country. Oddly, Amitabh, at the last minute, got rid of his Bombay territory rights which he had held on to for so long.
https://www.indiatoday.in/magazine/society-the-arts/films/story/19880315-amitabh-bachchan-makes-spectacular-come-back-with-shahenshah-797041-1988-03-15
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February 12, 2022 at 10:26 PM
Yakuza had TG’s verdicts for Amitabh and Khanna’s films through 70s and 80s. I dont think he has yearly verdicts of all movies through those decades. But thanks to GAMER RSK, we have the entire nineties data here in this thread. This is fantastic!
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February 12, 2022 at 4:43 PM
Does anyone know the verdict of Amitabh’s Agneepath?
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February 12, 2022 at 6:29 PM
Fact: The film was inspired by the life of Mumbai don Varadarajan Mudaliar and gangster Manya Surve. Bachchan modelled his mannerisms and voice on Surve for his character.
Upon release the film received polarized reviews.
Film Trade Analyst Komal Nahta wrote about Bachchan’s voice: “But the biggest undoing of the film is Amitabh Bachchan’s voice. He has spoken the dialogue in a different voice (similar to what Marlon Brando did in The Godfather) which will not be accepted by the audience. Further the mixing not being clear, his dialogues are incomprehensible at places.” He further wrote that the film lacked a gripping drama, well-set script, and that even the murder scenes lacked excitement.
Rediff.com’s review of Agneepath suggested that perhaps, the grim, violent, aggressive, and dark portrayal of the underbelly of Bombay’s underworld had worked against the film.
However, the perception of the film changed gradually over the years. Karan Johar recounts in an interview how younger city-based audiences thought it was a cool film. The movie’s review in Rediff.com, mentioned that: “Agneepath, despite its amplified sentimentality, strong language and violence works on account of this very dynamism. ”
The film, despite being the 4th highest-grosser of 1990, had collections way below its high budget, and thus, the film was unsuccessful at the box-office.
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February 12, 2022 at 10:58 PM
This is exactly why trade analysts SHOULDN’T be allowed to commit the sin of reviewing a movie. The review by Nahta is so laughable that it is an insult to even exercise the jaws a bit. AB’s voice is perfectly clear. And more than VM as inspiration, calling the spade a spade, SCARFACE is a heavy, heavy influencer for Agneepath. Mudaliar doesn’t even come close to Scarface, and by that, I also mean Mithun’s character playing the alter-ego.
The only thing I agree with him on is that it was too dark a film for its time, what with Aamir, Juhi, and Bhai capturing the youth with their youth…
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February 13, 2022 at 12:06 AM
Komal Nahta was widely known to be on the payroll of Boney Kapoor back then. There was some rivalry between the Anil Kapoor camp and Bachan back then. Boney Kapoor was hell-bent to project Anil Kapoor as the new No.1 and Anil Kapoor played the game along.
Agneepath did not do well at the BO and Kishan Kanhaiyya was a hit. Both films came simultaneously.
BO reporting was polarised with Taran Adarsh’s Trade Guide and Nahta’s Film Information. Taran was said to be neutral. Boney and Nahta claimed he was in Bachan’s camp. Nahta was widely known to be in Anil Kapoo’s camp.
The Boney Kapoor PR propaganda was in full swing back then. You can see it in the review of Agneepath. It is one thing that the audience did not like Bachan’s voice back then. But claiming that the film is dull and the action lacks punch tells it all. The film boasts of powerful scene after powerful scene. That fight in the slums when Bachan kills Deepak Shirke still gives goosebumps.
But the Boney Kapoor victory was short-lived. It culminated in Nahta claiming that Bachan was buying tickets when Hum released with a bang and Anil Kapoor films started underperforming.
The collections given by Nahta in FI for Hum are an embarassment. They were akin to collections of Jaadugar!
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February 13, 2022 at 12:11 AM
Yes, Hum has downplayed by FI. They have it at Commission Earner while TG had it as Hit. But usually there is a notch difference between TG and FI verdicts, but even after accounting for that Hum shud have been at least Overflow in FI classifications.
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February 13, 2022 at 12:20 AM
Oh they tried to pit each and every actor against AB; even the likes of Raj Babbar!!! Even Raj must have been like, ‘Kya kar rahe ho yaar’!
Jackie, Anil, Baba, all tried and got tired of his stories. Jhackass then moved on to trying to be a Hassan by trying to imitate him through Swati Muthyam and Thevar Magan…
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February 13, 2022 at 1:23 AM
The issue with Hum was not merely with the verdict. The collections reported by Nahta was indeed shameful. He reported a first week average occupancy of 88% when films like Toofan opened better than that. Aaj ka Arjun opened on an average of 98% in Mumbai despite it being a rural film! Khuda Gawah opened at 92% on average.
As per Trade guide, Hum opened at around 100% all over and was above 90% all over in the 2nd week. It reflected the huge pre-release buzz and post-release craze for the film. I don’t know about tags like hit or anything else given but it was as good as you could get BO-wise on those days.The opening figures given by Nahta reflected deals like Jaadugar and Insaaniyat and were so far from reality.
And openly putting in claims that Bachan had bought all the tickets was downright ridiculous. He went on to later claim that Insaaniyat had debuted quite well only because people were eager to watch the trailer of Anjaam that was being showed before the show. So, people were flogging to the theatres and paying tickets merely to watch a 2 mins trailer of a future flop film!
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February 13, 2022 at 1:34 AM
@Rahul apart from the ridiculous claims that AB bought tickets – BTW I haven’t heard about this claim at all; I understand AB is poor with business, but not so piss-poor that he would let everybody get a clue that he bought the tickets!! Weird statements were made … and it was wise to ignore them then, and now of course more than ever…
As far as i remember, it was THE ILLUSTRATED WEEKLY OF INDIA that used to carry just a page on Hindi films and they reported with honesty how humongous HUM was – and they did it inspite of that fact that Pritish Nandy carried a cover-piece on AB named ‘FINISHED.’ Of course, the irony of the whole situation was that a ‘finished’ AB still merited a 10 pp in a national magazine…
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February 13, 2022 at 1:41 AM
https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/illustrated-weekly-14-jan-1989-411105137
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February 13, 2022 at 2:04 AM
@An Jo- It practically was an open war between Nahta and Taran in the written press at that time. But it was Nahta making all the tall claims:
1. By claiming Taran was biased towards Bachan
2. By claiming that Bachan had bought tickets
3. By then putting forward his ridiculously low numbers.
But the written press were wise enough to allude to Nahta’s agenda linked with Boney Kapoor’s propaganda machinery.
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February 13, 2022 at 3:51 AM
Your comments wrt to Nahta and TA are very insightful! What a joke box office reporting was, is and still is!
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February 13, 2022 at 4:26 PM
Thanks Rahul for these insights. Brilliant.
Growing up never knew the names of any critics.
HUM –
I only remember the long queue, my elder brother told me about, which was there on the day advance opened. One had to be there for 3 hours to get a ticket.
Black market was rampant and price quoted were unheard then.
In Cibaca Sangeet Mala, Jumma Chumma was banned. Hence Amin Sayani would always say in his mesmerising voice, waise to pure India mein No 1 song kuch aur hai…lekin banned hone ki wajah se…eis maar ka no 1 song hai…..
He said it for straight 16 weeks. Hum was during the time when Rajini was a BIG star, like what Vijay/Prabhas is now and Govinda was also at the level of what Tiger Shroff is now.
But public only wanted to See Amitabh. Amitabh. Amitabh.
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February 12, 2022 at 6:45 PM
Amitabh’s Agneepath didnt even make it to Coverage category of FI. Was sold for v high price.
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February 13, 2022 at 3:44 AM
No. It was a coverage to commission affair. Nahta was intentionally providing false verdicts to downplay trade guide back then. Agneepath was average, Hum was a Hit and Khuda Gawah was Semi hit.
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February 13, 2022 at 4:00 AM
When a star is fading out there are usually strong propaganda at play from both sides regarding the last few successes. Look at BOI’s verdicts of the likes of CE, HNY and Dilwale …
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February 13, 2022 at 4:25 AM
The thing about AB is he never fades out. Has INR billion riding on him even at 80!
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February 13, 2022 at 4:31 AM
But he did fade out and then started a second innings. No point in denying that.
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February 13, 2022 at 4:44 AM
Was a voluntary hiatus. The only time he flopped was 1996-99.
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February 13, 2022 at 5:31 AM
After 86 there was not much happening except Shahenshah and Aaj Ka Arjun. There definitely was a fade out and then a break. Even after he came back it took a while to get to Mohabbatein.
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February 13, 2022 at 6:32 AM
Shehenshah, Aaj ka Arjun were record initials and hits. Hum was a hit and second highest of 1991. Khuda Gawah was a semi hit, Agneepath was average. All the way upto 1992 after which he took a hiatus till 96.
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February 13, 2022 at 6:44 AM
Other side of the same story:
Shahenshah, Aaj Ka Arjun – Hits (not Super Hits)
Hum – Commission Earner
Khuda Gawah – Coverage
Agneepath – Flop
This side of the story depicts a fade compared to his heydays (1973-86) IMO.
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February 13, 2022 at 7:20 AM
There was a leaner period for AB around the time of Toofan, Jaadugar and GJS. However, Aak Ka Arjun and Hum did very well and Khuda Gawah did moderately well.
Even for flops like Ajooba, Amitabh charged the territoy of Delhi-UP as his fee and you had to see those figures. It would beat almost any film there. However, the standards and costs were on another level.
As for Hum, if one calls it a commissioner earner, then I remember some trade expert calling Ghajini an overflow or something like that and that is a ridiculous claim. Because those collections were huge.
It is like saying that War is a smaller success than Bala, for instance in 2019. Of course, it may be the case. But we also know about the magnitude in terms of difference in collections. Those collections of Hum were absolutely humongous and much bigger than a superhit like Sanam Bewafa, for example.
If Bachan had a lean phase, it was at the afore-mentioned phase and it coincided with a period when he was into politics and the BOFORS issue. Toofan started well at least but GJS and Jaadugar did not at all. And he was not having a good press at that time as he had practically put an embargo on them. But even after that phase Agneepath remained an event film, by far the most awaited film of that year. AKA put things right after that, and maybe still is producer KC Bokadia’s biggest feat ever.
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February 13, 2022 at 8:03 AM
Hum collections maybe better than Sanam Bewafa, but the differential between the distribution prices of the two are more humongous. And Hum collections were not all time record grossing that it compares to Ghaijini. I dont think your argument stands. Yes, as a mark of his superstardom his films like Agneepath and Hum were still being sold huge prices (like Salman’s films at present). But when the star is in fading phase, such distribution prices act as deterrents and films flop or are commission earners despite moderate grosses. No rocket science here.
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February 13, 2022 at 8:12 AM
Both Hum and Aaj Ka Arjun are given Hit status by the BOI archives, how is there such a difference between two magazines. Rahul’s explanation about Komal Nahta’s corruption makes sense in this context. If we could find some older articles about Nahta’s link with Boney, it’d make more sense.
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February 12, 2022 at 10:09 PM
I think Agneepath was B, there was this list where it showed he had 10 flops or so between 73 till Khuda Gawah. Sure that Agneepath was not one of them.
I’d be quite surprised if Raju Ban Gaya Gentleman is a flop, wouldn’t make sense why they’d team up for Yes Boss again.
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February 12, 2022 at 10:18 PM
According to TG Agneepath maybe Coverage. Same goes for RBGG. FI is stricter in the sense it does not list losing fares like these. If i am not mistaken, Aamir’s MP also did not make it to FI’s 2005 list although being Below Average.
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February 12, 2022 at 10:58 PM
TG classifications are more lenient. Case in point, here is TG verdicts for 2001 below. If you compare with FI, Lagaan is Suerhit by TG but Semihit by FI.
2001 Trade Guide Verdicts
A11 (Super-Duper Hit): Gadar (Historic in Delhi, U.P. and Punjab)
A1 (Super Hit): Lagaan (‘A11’ in Mumbai and South India)
A (Hit): Mujhe Kucch Kehna Hai, Jodi No.1 (better in Mumbai, Delhi and U.P.)
BB (Overflow): Chori Chori Chupke Chupke (‘A’ in Mumbai and South India), Chhupa Rustam (‘A’ in Bihar; Commission Earner to Overflow in some territories), Kasoor (in Mumbai and South India), Ek Rishtaa (in Delhi and U.P., Rajasthan and Mumbai)
B (Commission Earner to Overflow): Albela (in Mumbai, Delhi and U.P.), Pyaar Tune Kya Kiya (Mumbai), Farz (North India), Love Ke Liye Kuch Bhi Karega (Mumbai)
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February 13, 2022 at 1:44 AM
Rbgg, adharm and agneepath were clean flops according to komal nahta
Don’t go by yakuza he even call some commission earner like abhimaan kasauti chupke chupke Khoon pasina as clean hits
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February 13, 2022 at 1:51 AM
Abhimaan and Chupke Chupke were not hits? Has the definition changed over the years? What was a ‘commision earner’ back then? And what is it now? Since clearly, when it comes to modern-day ‘superstars’ there are factor of safeties thrown in like IPL, too much TV, OTT, etc., etc., where as actors then had it easy since it was either cinema on the screens or BBC cricket on the radio…
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February 13, 2022 at 1:55 AM
Abhimaan and Chupke Chupke were both hits as per Trade Guide. Kasauti was break even/average per the same.
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February 13, 2022 at 1:57 AM
Abhimaan and chupke chupke were just successes not clean hit and i was born in 80s so don’t know about 70s my dad said that chupke chupke only did well on bombay
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February 13, 2022 at 2:06 AM
Abhimaan and Chupke Chupke wud perhaps be in Overflow category as per FI (not sure). These 2 were metro-centric Hits as far as I have heard.
Wud be interesting to see how many clean Hits AB has in his first innings as per FI terminology? As per TG’s lenient verdicts he has 34.
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February 13, 2022 at 2:30 AM
Hey dude how can i post on satyamshot (gamerrsk)
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Admin is missing in action; I don’t have rights to make you poster.
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February 13, 2022 at 3:47 AM
Fact : Deewaar and Trishul that were tagged super hits back then recorded higher footfall than the ATBBs like 3Idiots, pk & bajrangi.
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February 13, 2022 at 4:20 AM
@Marcus : Abhimaan was before AB got fame and Chupke Chupke had him in a supporting role. Both were the legend Hrishi da s films for whom even superstars like Rajesh Khanna, Dharmendra and AB used to act for half their fee. Such was the status of the great man. Abhimaan was A and Chupke Chupke was an A1.
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February 13, 2022 at 4:29 AM
According to TG they’re A hits, but not sure FI wud give them same status. Btw, according to TG he had 8 blockbusters in his first innings.
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February 13, 2022 at 4:48 AM
AAA, Muqaddar and Coolie are ATBBs. Sholay is beyond a classification.
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February 13, 2022 at 6:11 AM
TG has these 8 as Blockbusters:
Deewar
Sholay
Amar Akbar Anthony
Muqaddar Ka Sikandar
Suhaag
Naseeb
Laawaris
Coolie
What are they missing, if any?
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February 13, 2022 at 6:14 AM
Where does DON figure?
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February 13, 2022 at 6:22 AM
Don and Mard are Super Hits as per TG.
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February 13, 2022 at 6:43 AM
That’s coz the term ATBB didn’t exist back then. Else do you really think Sholay or even Muqaddar would be anything less? MKS is a bigger hit than DDLJ & Gadar.
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February 13, 2022 at 7:49 AM
RBG was average and did quite welll in Mumbai. Not a flop by any means. Even Chamatkar did moderately well.
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February 13, 2022 at 7:52 AM
Yes, sure, but only by BOI’s twisted take on reality.
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February 13, 2022 at 8:04 AM
If Oh Darling Yeh Hai India, Chaahat and Army can be coverage films, then RBGG and Chamatkar must have done well.
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February 13, 2022 at 8:12 AM
Tum mere ho, love love love, afsana pyar ka were also averages and did moderately well. But they didnt make the cut as per FI’s strict verdicts. Same goes for Baazi, Mann or MP.
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February 13, 2022 at 8:57 AM
Tum Mere Ho, believe me, made decent money. APK, LLL and Baazi did not. They did not work at all. Mann was sold at high prices and failed to recover those. But MP is not a flop.
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February 13, 2022 at 9:07 AM
All these films are basically in the borderline of recovery. TG includes them in ‘B’ Coverage category, but FI ignores them. Its the criteria they follow respectively.
Also its not just about grosses, the price is the key here.
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February 13, 2022 at 9:40 AM
http://web.archive.org/web/20061015173504/http://www.boxofficeindia.com/aamirkhan.htm
Rahul’s right about the following films, even BOI pre 2005 archive corroborate this.
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February 13, 2022 at 9:55 AM
You are expecting TG like verdicts from FI when it comes to Amitabh’s films. The problem is till date u have only seen TG verdicts for AB films as FI data was not available. So ur expectations are not inline. You also believe BOI archives are FI classifications, but its not the case. BOI archives are grossly manipulated ones.
Nothing is perfect, but FI from what i hv seen is most consistent, next comes TG but their data is hardly available online. BOI archives or present are the worse and carers mainly to SRK fandom.
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February 13, 2022 at 8:17 AM
The reason is technical. The films have to break even in all territories to be in Coverage status of FI. TG and BOI archives were more lenient with their Below Average category where they ignore losses in some circuits.
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February 13, 2022 at 8:35 AM
It’s pan India share vs cost for FI. Not every individual circuit. ZNMD, Don 2, Talaash and even Airlift made losses in mass circuits yet are all successful as FI due to overall plus pan India share.
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February 13, 2022 at 8:58 AM
It has the pre-requisite of recovery in all circuits and then share vs cost. Its a bull idea that excel films make losses, they dont sell at high prices in mass circuits in the first place.
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February 13, 2022 at 9:18 AM
Komal has himself clarified this in 2010 when he wrote for Koimoi. And don’t believe his verdicts blindly.
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February 13, 2022 at 9:56 AM
@Shivaay – You are expecting TG like verdicts from FI when it comes to Amitabh’s films. The problem is till date u have only seen TG verdicts for AB films as FI data was not available. So ur expectations are not inline. You also believe BOI archives are FI classifications, but its not the case. BOI archives are grossly manipulated ones.
Nothing is perfect, but FI from what i hv seen is most consistent, next comes TG but their data is hardly available online. BOI archives or present are the worse and carers mainly to SRK fandom.
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February 12, 2022 at 11:17 PM
Old BOI verdicts for Amitabh Bachchan films:
http://web.archive.org/web/20030801213418/http://boxofficeindia.com/amitabh.htm
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February 12, 2022 at 11:23 PM
And TG scans of BO verdicts of Amitabh Bachchan and Rajesh Khanna:
https://forums.itsboxoffice.com/707739/rajesh-khanna-amitabh-bachchan-filmography-trade-guide-1954
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February 12, 2022 at 11:25 PM
One heck of a career from Zanjeer onwards till Toofan. Even a pathetic film like MARD is a hit!!! Can understand ALAAP and SILSILA flopping. But Jurmana, really? Hrishida was normally very cunning and careful in utilizing AB’s angry young man image very subtly in his movies though he hated the directors who made him perform the same acts…
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February 13, 2022 at 3:48 AM
Mard was a certified Blockbuster. Not just a mere Hit. Ran riot in the interiors and C centers of CP, CI, Rajasthan, UP and Marathawada.
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February 13, 2022 at 10:15 PM
Mard is Super Hit by TG, but just Hit from FI (both scans available here to check). Where did the ‘Blockbuster’ verdict come from?
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February 14, 2022 at 1:05 AM
Because a Super Hit tag in those times is akin to today’s Blockbuster. The trade never used the term BB till BOI borrowed it from mojo in 2006.
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February 14, 2022 at 1:20 AM
You still had Super Duper Hit category from ages … that was above the normal Super Hit category for bigger hits.
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February 13, 2022 at 12:46 AM
From above, the box office list of 1982:
https://web.archive.org/web/20110531011835/http://bollybusiness.wordpress.com/2010/08/24/boxoffice-classifications-1982/
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February 13, 2022 at 12:46 AM
https://web.archive.org/web/20110624071518/http://bollybusiness.wordpress.com/2010/07/30/boxoffice-classifications-year-1979/
Box office list of 1979.
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February 13, 2022 at 4:35 AM
From Yakuza’s BLAST FROM THE PAST…some interesting information…
https://satyamshot.wordpress.com/2012/08/18/yakuzas-blasts-from-the-past/
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February 13, 2022 at 5:34 AM
@Munna – I have collected all the FI verdicts together from 1990-1999 here. You can put it in the main post (or a separate post) for better visibility.
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February 13, 2022 at 5:35 AM
We are missing 2013, 2014 and 2015 for the last decade. I was hoping GAMER RSK will be able to fill that gap too…
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February 13, 2022 at 2:50 PM
DON is another Amitabh Bachchan BLOCKBUSTER from 1978. Due to Chandra Barot’s low profile as director the movie fetched far lower prices than most Prakash Mehra/Manmohan Desai/YRF films in major circuits of Mumbai, Delhi/UP and even Mysore. With a net collection in excess of 5 Cr and a share of over 3 Cr, the film was the second biggest hit of 1978 after Muqaddar and the third highest grosser after MKS and Trishul. Only an AB could sell over 25 million tickets with a rank newcomer director in a year when he already had the top 2 biggest BBs (one of them being an ATBB).
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February 13, 2022 at 8:09 PM
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February 14, 2022 at 11:12 PM
that is like ’83 being the 2nd highest Bollywood grosser of 2021 after Sorryvanshi and being declared a Blockbuster on that accord. Hum also had a huge budget. So collections maybe huge for those days but were they economically beneficial to all the stakeholders involved?
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February 15, 2022 at 2:22 AM
Are you comparing last year’s BO to 1991? There was hardly any theatrical release last year and using that as a comparison?? I give up.
I talked about the Komal Nahta agenda against Hum here and people here backed it with evidence. You know, even Boney Kapoor joined in back then openly to claim that Hum is a flop. Those figures given by that camp were shameless.
I saw Hum’s collections with my own eyes and believe me, they were huge.
Unfortunately, I don’t have scans or copies 30 years on. But I know what I saw with my own eyes and it’s not BOI or anyone using secondary sources with hindsight or approximation or then Nahta’s corrupted agenda who are going to change my mind. |I believe what I saw with my own eye.
When a film starts at 100% average occupancy all over, when you have Trade Guide putting ‘record’ in bracket after so many centres collections, and when you look at those figures, nothing else matters.
A more apt comparison in terms of purely in terms of costs and BO tags (not in terms of humungousness) would be War and Bala as I said. Maybe Bala is declared a bigger hit in 2019 due to lower costs, but we know the difference in terms of magnitude of figures. They are huge. There was such a difference between a superhit like Sanam Bewafa and Hum during those times. And Salman was no Ayushman Khurana. He was the Hrithik Roshan of 2000 kind-of-craze right after MPK.
Now, imagine if there was a HR superhit in 2001 and another film making collections twice or even more than three times that in certain centres. That was Hum. I saw the difference in collections. Overflow or Commisioner Earner? Tell Nahta to go to hell with Boney’s bribe money. No wonder, he was the one journalist Boney Kapoor contacted to give account of Sridevi’s death in Dubai. That account looked like a pitiful whitewashing exercise rather than anything else.
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February 15, 2022 at 3:35 AM
Great comment Rahul.
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February 14, 2022 at 2:18 AM
2003 FILM INFORMATION Verdicts (Half-Year)
AAA (Super-Duper Hit)-
AA (Super Hit)-
A1 (Hit)-
A (Semi Hit)-Chalte Chalte
-Andaa
-Bhoot
-Jism
BB (Overflow) -Ishq Vishq
-Tujhe Meri Kasam
B1 (Commission)-Khwahish
-Chota Jadugar
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February 14, 2022 at 2:37 AM
GAMER RSK – Do you have the FI verdicts for 2003 year end?
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February 14, 2022 at 3:25 AM
Hit – Koi mil Gaya
Semi – Baghban, munnabhai
Overflow – Kal ho na ho, Qayamat
Commission – Tere naam.
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February 14, 2022 at 6:08 AM
KHNH was overflow? Dont think so. Whats your source?
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February 14, 2022 at 7:29 AM
Hit – Koi Mil Gaya
Semi Hit – Baghban, Andaz
Overflow – Kal Ho Na Ho, Chalte Chalte, Khwaish
Commission To Overflow – Tere Naam, Qayamat, Hungama, Ishq Vishk, GangaJal
Commission Earner – Jism, Bhoot
Coverage To Commission Kashmir – Munna Bhai MBBS
Coverage – Janasheen
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February 14, 2022 at 7:36 AM
Thanks for the 2003 FI classifications! What was Devdas’s verdict in 2002? Was it Overflow or Semi Hit?
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February 14, 2022 at 9:10 PM
Overflow
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February 14, 2022 at 8:14 AM
@Heman – Why is ur full year classification for 2003 not matching with the above half-yearly classifications of 2003?
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February 14, 2022 at 11:24 AM
Old Boi had Devdas at BB, which is commission earner from FI. You mean to say BOI gave lower verdict to Devdas than FI? Not possible given their preferences.
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February 14, 2022 at 6:10 AM
Also first munnabhai wud not be above commission earner. Maybe coverage to commission.
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February 14, 2022 at 9:04 AM
KHNH is overflow, so is Devdas and Munnabhai is commission but later changed to semi hit after 2+ months of extended run in Mumbai. Now don’t ask me for sources. Dig them up if you wish.
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February 14, 2022 at 10:31 AM
You are again passing old BOI verdicts as FI ones, when they are obviously not matching for available data. Whats the point on digging them up?
Also, u need to dig up what old Boi verdicts stand for (as published by themselves) and compare them with FI terminology as the ratio of share vs price:
BOI code – FI verdict – Share %
AAA – Super Duper Hit – share is 300+% of the cost
A11 – Super Hit (200+ %)
A1 – Hit (125-200%)
AA – Semi Hit (100-125%)
A – Overflow (50-100%)
BB – Commission Earner (25-50%)
B1 – Coverage (upto 25%)
B – Losing (Coverage in some circuits but flop in others)
If anyone understands FI verdicts, then they can see the obvious difference between BOI. Thats irrespective of dirty laundry gossip of how BOI came into being …
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February 14, 2022 at 10:39 AM
FI code – FI verdict – Share %
AAA – Super Duper Hit – share is 300+% of the cost
A1 – Super Hit (200+ %)
AA – Hit (125-200%)
A – Semi Hit (100-125%)
BB – Overflow (50-100%)
B1 – Commission Earner (25-50%)
B – Coverage (upto 25%)
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February 14, 2022 at 10:41 AM
In old BOI archives, A is actually Overflow, BB is Commission, B1 is Coverage and B is Losing.
Even with this self-confession in BOI archives, their verdicts dont match with FI ones.
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February 14, 2022 at 11:07 AM
The overflow for khnh and devdas is from fi. From boi they both were hits.
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February 15, 2022 at 3:01 AM
From what I recall, in old BOI and IBOS, KMG was at around 42cr, KHNH was at 33cr, The Hero was at around 25cr. They were the top 3.
They were then followed by Munnabhai and Baghban. IBOS had Baghban higher than Munnabhai. The latter was a surprise success and would done even better, but was affected by LOC’s release in its 2nd week. But it held on very well from then on.
Chalte Chalte had done around 16cr. These may have been manipulated or modified later.
Nahta said in F1 that KMG had done very well. He said it was the first film post Gadar to have done 50% of the latter’s business.
The success stories of that year most probably were KMG, Baghban and Munnabhai.
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February 15, 2022 at 3:34 AM
From what I remember, when everybody was going bonkers over KMG — a really silly, poor film by the way with bad acting uniformly by all — ‘Baghban’ just came out of nowhere and conquered the imagination of the seniors. With ridiculous, over-the topmost-top scenes like Bhai having photos of AB and Hema in his ‘Pooja’ room — we all know what and who ‘Pooja’ means to him — it was filled with many LOL scenes. But some scenes were identifiable; like the parents getting split across sons or/and daughters. I used to laugh when I saw such scenes but when it happened in my own joint family, I couldn’t believe the level of trash people resorted to. Bachchan and Hema looked damn good together even when dancing at the stupid Valentine’s Day get-together but boy, they had superb chemistry. And Bachchan’s last 10 minute dialogue was to die for…
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February 15, 2022 at 3:53 AM
I avoid this film at any cost with parents lurking 😂
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February 15, 2022 at 3:36 AM
As per FI, KMG did 30 cr nett, which was a couple of cr less than what KNPH did in 2000.
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February 15, 2022 at 3:54 AM
The 30 cr was the SHARE, not Nett. FI never reported nett collections. That method began only after the coming of BOI. KMG nett was comfortably over 45. As for Baghban, it’s always been as shameless and ridiculous a film as K3G.
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February 15, 2022 at 3:55 AM
Yup Jayshah; I remember your fondness for the movie; especially when you were caught red-handed refusing to buy a pair of glasses for your Dad inspite of working in a multi-national company…in UK of all places.
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February 15, 2022 at 3:56 AM
ROFLMAO
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February 15, 2022 at 4:03 AM
KMG ‘Nett’ was 30 cr by FI. KNPH was 32 cr and K3G was 30 cr. Check: https://web.archive.org/web/20040115134437/http://boxofficeindia.com/trade%20info.htm
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February 14, 2022 at 12:42 PM
All these verdicts are retrograde now. We cannot discuss films on the basis of what’s commission and what’s overflow in lay man’s language. Better to stick to our BB, Hit, Semi Hit, Average terminology.
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February 14, 2022 at 8:17 PM
How can bollywood’s BO history be retrograde? It is what it is. That is why FI is still the golden standard for verdicts even today, for 48 years till date.
For layman’s armchair BO analysis, anything that is ‘Overflow’ and above by FI can be considered as a ‘Hit’. Share being 150%+ of price is a good enough criteria in general terms for layman ‘Hits’. BOI also started with this theory in 2003 (that is how they modified their BO classification by making Overflow as ‘A’), but screwed up their database with their own biases.
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February 15, 2022 at 3:15 AM
Hits were meant to be 100% roi in original FI terminology while 150%+ was a super hit. It still is. For modern day analysis FI should stop using terms like overflow and commission.
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February 15, 2022 at 3:31 AM
In FI parlance, Overflow means the profits are more than 50% of the price but less than 100%. That is the criteria followed by early BOI to call them Semi-Hits instead (A and above).
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February 15, 2022 at 5:51 AM
I think these classification will soon be outdated with theatrical revenue now becoming 《 50% of overall revenue for a producer/ distributor.
Second, these classification is based on unknown Distributor’s cost. Distributor’s cost is not shared for all movies by any source – FI, TG or BOI. Unless we know, we will not be able to really agree to these classifications. This again leads to disagreements.
Change in Distributor’s cost leads to change in classification. Sometimes 3 movies are bundled and sold to distributors. So it becomes difficult to know the classification.
Overall it is not transparent and consistent. Only thing which is close to truth is territory wise gross or nett collection. Now add an imaginary Distributor’s cost and we can classify any movie anywhere.
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February 15, 2022 at 5:59 AM
FI gives out distribution cost of releases and all … you need to 3.5K monthly subscription for that data. Golden standard build over years dont get outdated because so-called the reigning #1 cant deliver beyond overflow/commission.
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February 15, 2022 at 6:08 AM
That doesn’t sound like money well spent.
Naveen has a point on denominator of calc. If you don’t have visibility on cost a lot is open to fiddling.
Even these categories (overflow, commission basis) are too much.
Cost is definitely important. Revenue too.
Where I disagree with Naveen is the juxtaposition of entire Revenue against cost of theatrical release.
Theatrical cost vs theatrical revenue. Rest is going into different pockets.
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February 15, 2022 at 6:17 AM
Also I think some balance is needed. There is no need to be incredibly prescriptive or scientific in classifications. No fun in that.
Some cases like Rahul said on Hum – people see with there eyes what is happening. Hum was a big movie when I was growing up. Even Agneepath. The latter is probably outgrowing all Bachchan 90s movies.
I’ve never trusted BOI period. Likes of TA and Nahta seem untrustworthy too but at least they share(d) centre wise data.
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April 8, 2022 at 10:11 PM
You are right
Komal didn’t classified Bharat, Patthar Ke Phool and Yes Boss . These were definitely successful ventures
Bharat should have classified in overflow category as recovered it’s distributor cost. Patthar ke phool it did hit business in Bombay , South and Delhi it should have been classified as overflow. Yes Boss did semi hit business in Cities and should have been classified as commission to overflow.
And his 1994 and 1999 classification was completely bogus
As for me 1994 classification would be (dubbed films excluded)
Movie Marvel Of The Century – Hum Aapke Hain Koun
Superhit – Dilwale, Mohra
Hit – Raja Babu, Laadla
Semi Hit – Main Khiladi Tu Anari, Gopi Kishan
Overflow – Anth, Vijaypath, Suhag, Elaan
Commission To Overflow – Yeh Dillagi, Salaami,Cheetah
Commission Earner – Khuddar, Andaz Apna Apna ,Kabhi Haan Kabhi Na, Saajan Ka Ghar, Zaalim
Coverage – Dulaara, Dulaara, Aatish
1999 classification for me would be
Superhit – Hum Saath Saath Hain
Hit – Biwi No.1
Semi Hit – Hum Aapke Dil Mein Rehte Hain,Daag The Fire
Overflow – Kachche Dhaage, Hogi Pyar Ki Jeet, Hum Dil De Chuke Sanam, Haseena Maan Jayegi, Sarfarosh,Sirf Tum
Commission To Overflow – Vaastav,Jaanwar
Commission Earner – Taal, Hindustan Ki Kasam
Coverage – Arjun Pandit, International Khiladi
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February 15, 2022 at 6:24 AM
Thanks Jayshah for understanding and getting my point.
On the point you told you differe from me – Theatrical cost is unknown while theatrical revenue is known.
As i mentioned, theatrical cost is traditionally taken as same as distributors cost. How do we find distributors cost if
1. Movies are bundled and sold
2. Movies are sold on commission
3. Producers themselves distribute
4. Movies are fold on fixed price
5. Non hindi films have no data point on distributors cost.
With all the above factors, in 90% case, distributors/ theatrical cost is not clear. One takes speculated actors fee, prodiction cost, print and marketing cost and come to 200 cr or 150 cr and use it as its cost. And then add some extras and make it distributor cost. This is too much of fudginess.
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February 15, 2022 at 6:33 AM
Take for an example Bachchan Pandey.
Now what is its distributors cost? NGE films have partnered with AA films to distribute it on commission at 10%.
Suppose Bachchan pandey is made at a cost of 100 cr (not including Akshay fee)
And suppose Bachchan Pandey does 200 cr nett.
Exhibitors get approx 50% = 100 cr
Then from remaining 100 cr, AA films make 10 cr and NGE gets 90 cr.
Here AA film cost of distribution is unknown but will 10 cr be considered as HIT or Super hit?
NGE films who got 90 cr from theatricals + 150 cr non theatrical makes 240 cr.
Profit = 240 – 100 = 140 cr
Akshay takes 100 cr
NGE films take 40 cr.
So in the overall economic above….what will you call this movie?
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February 15, 2022 at 6:37 AM
I try to avoid too much on cost stuff unless it’s massively material.
I look at opening/first week/lifetime and the ratios. If the opening/first week/lifetime is low and it’s obvious a big budget…then that’s not good.
In absence of all the information above, sources, multiple sources confirming I rather stick to what business film is making and how it made it.
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February 15, 2022 at 6:48 AM
Yes sounds good because this way you are only working on knowns most of the time. And 80% of the time cost of production is known or can be reasonably estimated +/- 25 cr for large movies.
Otherwise, as i said and gave the example of Bachchan Pandey, no way the classifications of FI are relevant in today’s new world of entertainment industry.
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February 15, 2022 at 7:16 AM
Firstly, Nahta knows what he’s doing and will adjust his methods accordingly. Secondly, his verdicts are for industry insiders and the IT dept. Not for us lay men to have endless discussions upon. Cost of production (minus digital rights in post COVID times) vs All India nett is the best way to analyse performance right now. Sooryavanshi COP minus Netflix deal is 150 CR and it’s nett is 195. That a 30% add on which leads to an Above average verdict.
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February 15, 2022 at 7:22 AM
30% ROI means a commission earner. I think Sooryavanshi has done better than that even by Nahta’s strict criteria.
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February 15, 2022 at 7:26 AM
Not really. I’m not very confident of Sooryavanshi distributors earning overflow although Krish or Saket might know better.
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February 15, 2022 at 7:30 AM
FI for IT dept. is a far fetched theory. But yes, it is referred by industry insiders to take business decisions.
Many films get released on commission basis. FI definitely has some criteria to judge the cost/price for such cases.
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February 15, 2022 at 7:31 AM
Shivaay – Cost of production (minus digital rights in post COVID times) vs All India nett is the best way to analyse performance right now.
This is also fine because here also we are talking about knowns.
But again it changes the entire classification. You can say 30% add on is above average. Someone will say 10% add on will be above average etc.
As long as its consistently used, am fine.
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February 15, 2022 at 7:33 AM
FI being used by IT dept was confirmed by Syed Abid himself, when he wrote for planetbollywood.
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February 15, 2022 at 7:41 AM
I wouldn’t trust that guy at all. He was a real shady character…
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February 15, 2022 at 7:52 AM
Understatement of year 🤣
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February 15, 2022 at 7:55 AM
I am really fond of Abid bhai. Tango still rings a bell. He was knowledgeable and he helped many of us to understand boxoffice.
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February 15, 2022 at 8:24 AM
Any idea what he’s up to now?
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February 15, 2022 at 7:26 AM
30% ROI means a commission earner. I think Sooryavanshi has done better than that even by Nahta’s strict criteria.
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February 15, 2022 at 7:31 AM
^ duplicate comment, pls delete.
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February 15, 2022 at 7:56 AM
What we think is an authentic source differs.
Recently I read a Deloitte paper on Indian film business from 2019 (you can search it)…there source data was Bollywood Hungama and KoiMoi so go figure. Not BOI.
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February 15, 2022 at 8:03 AM
There certain industry standards that are followed and maintained within the industry, FI being one of them.
However, foreign publications wont have access to FI data, and even if they do, have may not get the total nett figures for movies as FI publishes only reported centers. For that purpose, BollywoodHungama fits the bill as it has an extensive database of producer totals (yes, some of that is controversial like Krrish 3 and Bang Bang, etc), but suits the reporter who is looking for total collections.
As I said, we are century behind BOMOJO and 500 years behind chinese box office tracking.
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February 15, 2022 at 8:18 AM
Hungama has borrowed all its post 1995-09 totals from BOI. One bunch of thieves stealing from another.
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March 5, 2022 at 2:10 AM
1992 First Six months Trade Guide – Thanks to Shiva Prasad Shetty
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March 5, 2022 at 5:53 AM
So Khuda Gawah is a Semi Hit/Above Avg after all.. was the 2nd or 3rd highest grosser of 1992
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March 5, 2022 at 6:03 AM
It is a trade guide verdict; probably cost was too high.
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March 5, 2022 at 6:22 AM
As per Trade Guide:
A11 – Super Duper Hit
A1- Super Hit
A – Hit
B+ – Overflow
Good B – Commission Earner
B – Coverage
So Khuda Gawah is Overflow by Taran and JJWS is Commission Earner. As per FI Khuda Gawah was coverage and JJWS was commission.
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March 5, 2022 at 6:38 AM
Very expensive production with lavish sets and elaborate cinematography and action across Kabul. One of a kind from the master Mukul Anand.
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March 6, 2022 at 4:10 AM
This is trade guide verdicts not FI
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March 6, 2022 at 4:17 AM
Yes.
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March 6, 2022 at 4:19 AM
@Heman – Do you hv FI verdicts from 2000 to 2005?
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March 8, 2022 at 5:47 AM
Trade guide verdicts are very lenient according to them Jaagruti and Koyla were coverage to commission earners
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March 12, 2022 at 9:40 AM
Both TG and FI have had biases from time to time. 1985 results of FI are shocking since RTGM was always a monumental Super Duper Hit with an unknown cast and low investment, yet turning out to be the HGOTY.
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April 7, 2022 at 10:50 PM
1997 Complete Classification
Superhit
Border
Dil Toh Pagal Hai
Hit
Hero No. 1
Judwaa
Gupt
Judaai
Ziddi
Semi Hit
Ishq
Chachi 420
Virasat
Overflow
Pardes
Bhai
Deewana Mastana
Aastha
Yeshwant
Commission Earner
Shapath
Koyla
Kaalia
Interesting thing is Yes Boss and Mr and Mrs Khiladi were flops by Film Information and now a fraud box office site like box office india declared them hit and semi hit respectively. Even Pardes was barely a hit (only performed good in 3-4 big cities otherwise it was flop to average ) in most of the parts.
As per trade guide top grossers of 1997 (as I used to follow trade guide and film information regularly in 90s)
1.Border
2.Dil Toh Pagal Hai
3.Ishq
4.Gupt
5.Hero No.1
6.Judwaa
7.Ziddi
8.Pardes
9.Deewana Mastana
10.Chachi 420
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April 8, 2022 at 1:45 AM
Thanks for your comment. We already have 1997 full FI classifications here – https://satyamshot.wordpress.com/2022/02/13/film-information-verdicts-1990-1999/
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April 8, 2022 at 2:50 AM
In this classification you have mentioned yes boss as overflow but it was in rest column of FI
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April 8, 2022 at 2:50 AM
In this classification you have mentioned YB as OF but it was in rest column of FI
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April 8, 2022 at 3:14 AM
That is probably a mistake and stands to be corrected.
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April 8, 2022 at 3:25 AM
I remember yes boss was only success in cities overall an average
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April 7, 2022 at 11:17 PM
Top stars of 90s considering initials, hits,fan following
1.Sunny Deol – his film opened to bumper response expect for Romantic films, Very good run between Jeet and Border. Though he was inconsistent in most of the part of 90s but he had some hits to his credit like Ghayal, Darr, Narsimha, Lootere and Vishwatma (semi hit).
2. Salman Khan – one of the rare star who had a good fan following in cities, interior and urbans centers. Was almost numero uno Between 1990-1991.after Jeet to till Hum Saath Saath Hain performed excellently. His films started to open bumper response after Karan Arjun though between 90-94 there were some excellent openers like baagi, kurbaan, saajan, jaagruti, hum aapke hain koun (less prints otherwise considering occupancy it was bumper ) and dil tera aashiq. Delivered big hits without any big directors and heroines.
3. Shah Rukh Khan – though his film never opened big expect for some exceptional. Srk was depended on big banners and big directors. He wasn’t that big like his pimps Anupama , Filmfare, Movie, Gauri’s Uncle (Mama) (he was the big name in print media) tried to show him.
4. Ajay Devgan – one of the most underrated star of 90s.in term of opening he was only 2nd to Sunny Deol. In interiors ajay films used to prove money spinner. He was consistent in most of the part of 90s expect for 93.
5.Govinda – he was more of a moderate star , haven’t have a hit without David Dhawan expect for Dulhe Raja. Though between 93-98 Govinda films were performing pretty film.
6.Aamir Khan – expect for Dil, Ishq, Raja Hindustani and Rangeela his films never opened big. Lacked all india hits. His films only used to work in mysore and Bombay.
7.Sunil Shetty – Had a very good run between 92-97.in term of opening between 94-97 he was the biggest star star sunny. Had decent numbers of solo hits like Balwaan, Anth, Gopi Kishan and Bhai (a fraud site like box office india had given these films as semi hit but in reality these were declared hit by all expect for film information). Apart from these he had multistarer hit like Mohra , Dilwale and some moderately successful films like Waqt Hamara Hai (semi hit) Pehchan (Average) Suraksha (above average) Takkar (Average) Krishna (Above Average) Judge Mujrim (Average) Qahar (Average).
8.Sanjay Dutt – Before superhit Sadak he was not In big league though his film used to work in interiors. Between 1991-1993 he was the biggest star in term of opening and some of really big hits like Saajan (Blockbuster),Khalnayak (Blockbuster),Sadak (Superhit),Thanedaar (Hit), Daag (Hit) , Haseena Maan Jayegi (Hit) , Adharam (Semi hit) and Vaastav (semi hit) to his credit.
9. Jackie Shroff – Between 1990-1993 he performed very well with hits like Khalnayak,Izzat, 100 Days, Aaina and some semi hits like Hafta Bandh, Police officer, Gardish and Angaar.between 94-97 he had only multistarer blockbusters like Rangeela, Agni Sakshi and Border. After 1998 he started doing character roles.
10. Akshay Kumar – Enjoyed very good run between 94-96 with many hits like Mohra , Khiladiyon Ka Khiladi, Sabse Bada Khiladi,Main Khiladi Tu Anari. Suhag, Yeh Dillagi, Elaan
Though he had many big flops in 90s like Mr and Mrs Khiladi (it was super flop and a biase site like boi show it semi hit)
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April 8, 2022 at 1:58 AM
Aamir did better than you are acknowledging here. He was definitely among the top 5 stars. He had 5 all india hits in the 90s in Dil, HHRPK, Rangeela, RH and Ishq. You can check FI classifications, they are all A category hits. His other films like DHKMN, JJWS, Ghulam and Sarfarosh were not all-india hits, but did well only in Bombay and South territories.
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April 8, 2022 at 2:48 AM
Rangeela and hhrpk were not all india hits. Rangeela was blockbuster in South and Bombay, average elsewhere
Hhrpk was low budget success
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April 8, 2022 at 3:10 AM
No, Rangeela and HHRPK were Superhit and Semi-Hit as per FI respectively These are not overflows that did hit business only in one or two territories. They did hit business all over. HHRPK was a small budget hit, but an all India hit nonetheless.
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April 8, 2022 at 3:13 AM
Jitni kam price mein film sold kroge utna better verdict milega.
Hhrpk was only low budget hit.
Rangeela minimum price par sold thhi and the it did blockbuster business in South and Bombay only and in other places it was just average (tanhaji type case)
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April 8, 2022 at 3:17 AM
So u are talking about verdicts or high grossers? I think u are confusing between the two. You have an interesting take on 90s stars here, but no way was Devgn doing better than Aamir in the 90s. We have all lived through it. Anyway you slice it or dice it, Aamir was easily within top 5.
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April 8, 2022 at 3:27 AM
See exhibitors and distributor column, ajay was in most of those but aamir was barely in 10-12
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April 8, 2022 at 4:52 AM
Stardom is about high grossers and the actor’s ability to fetch record distribution prices for his films. Aamir is well ahead of Ajay and Govinda on both counts.
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April 8, 2022 at 3:28 AM
If what you say is true, it Shows the taste of audience in India by and large.
We were never a refined group of people.
Hafta bandh did well but Aamir Khan movies didn’t open well. LOL.
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April 8, 2022 at 3:35 AM
Its how you look at it. If you give too much importance for opening in interiors, then yes Aamir was not in the top 10. However, his movies used to open very well in cities and territories that were not mass interiors.
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April 8, 2022 at 3:38 AM
Its easy to overlook that it was quite difficult for Aamir to give successes and hits in qualitatively better films than the average masala fares during the single screen culture of the 90s.
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April 8, 2022 at 4:03 AM
Yes, we have suddenly opened up to judging box office clout of stars in India by their fan following in interiors.
By that yardstick, Mithun would beat everyone hollow and Yamraaj and Cheetah must be the gold standard to beat in Mandawa and Gonda
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April 8, 2022 at 4:49 AM
Not really. Popularity is always gaged at a pan India level. Some of Sunny Deol’s films did exceptionally well in the A centers as well and Shahrukh was the biggest 90s superstar purely on merits of his popularity in the A1 and A centers.
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April 8, 2022 at 9:16 PM
Considering Market value and how their films fetched price
1) Srk 2) Salman 3) Govinda 4) Sunny 5) Aamir 6) Ajay 7) Sanjay 8) Sunil 9) Akshay 10) Jackie
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May 30, 2022 at 10:33 AM
Hello brother 1980, 1981, 1988, 1989 , 1950 these years verdicts are missing please gave this also
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June 13, 2022 at 12:04 PM
https://2dpoint.net/how-the-film-distribution-works-in-bollywood/
https://www.behindwoods.com/tamil-movies-cinema-column/how-minimum-guarantee-works.html
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June 18, 2022 at 12:01 PM
Does anyone has film information yearly classification 2000-2006
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July 12, 2022 at 3:17 AM
From Twitter (not verified)
2006 #FI Classifications
Blockbuster :-
Super-Duper-Hit :- Dhoom 2, Krrish
Super-Hit :- Lage Raho Munnabhai, Vivaah
Hit :- Fanaa, Malamaal Weekly
Semi-Hit :- Rang De Basanti, Phir Hera Pheri, Gangster
Overflow :-
Commission to
Overflow:- KANK, Don
Commission-Earner:- Aksar, Pyar Ke Side Effects, Apna Sapna Money Money, Bhagam Bhag, 36 China Town
Coverage :- Taxi 9211, Tom Dick and Harry, Golmaa, Kabul Express
Coverage :- Corporate, Anthony Kaun Hai, Khosla Ka Ghosla
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July 12, 2022 at 3:17 AM
2005 #FI Classifications
Blockbuster :-
Super-Duper-Hit :-
Super-Hit :- No Entry, Bunty Aur Babli
Hit :- Kyaa Kool Hai Hum
Semi-Hit :-
Overflow :- Dus, Zeher, Garam Masala
Commission-Earner to
Overflow:- Waqt – The Race Against Time, Sarkar, Maine Pyaar Kyun Kiya, Hanuman
Commission-Earner:- Kaal
Coverage to Commission-Earner :- Page 3, Black, Lucky No Time For Love, Parineeta, Iqbal, Salaam Namaste, Kalyug, Apaharan
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July 12, 2022 at 3:18 AM
2004 #FI Classifications
Blockbuster :-
Super-Duper-Hit :-
Super-Hit :-
Hit :- Veer-Zaara, Murder, Dhoom
Semi-Hit :- Main Hoon Na, Hum Tum
Overflow :- Julie, Mujhse Shaadi Karogi
Commission-Earner to Overflow:- Masti, Hulchul, Girlfriend
Commission-Earner:- Tauba Tauba
Coverage to Commission-Earner :- Hawas
Coverage :- Gayab, Vaastu Shastra
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July 12, 2022 at 3:19 AM
2003 #FI Classifications
Blockbuster :-
Super-Duper-Hit :-
Super-Hit :-
Hit :- Koi Mil Gaya
Semi-Hit :- Baghban, Andaaz
Overflow :- Kal Ho Na Ho, Chalte Chalte, Khwahish
Commission-Earner to Overflow:- Tere Naam, Qayamat, Humgama, Gangaajal, Ishq Vishk
Commission-Earner:- Jism, Bhoot
Coverage to Commission-Earner :- Munnabhai MBBS
Coverage :- Janasheen
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July 12, 2022 at 3:19 AM
2002 #FI Classifications
Blockbuster :-
Super-Duper-Hit :-
Super-Hit :-
Hit :- Raaz
Semi-Hit :-
Overflow :- Devdas, Ek Chotisi Love Story
Commission-Earner:- Mere Yaar Ki Shaadi Hai, 16 December, Awara Paagal Deewana, Humraaz, Yeh Dil Aashiqana, Deewangee, Saathiya
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July 12, 2022 at 3:22 AM
2000 #FI Classifications
Blockbuster :-
Super-Duper-Hit :- Kaho Na Pyaar Hai
Super-Hit :-
Hit :- Mohabattein
Semi-Hit :-
Overflow :- Baadal, Kya Kehna
Commission-Earner:- Dhadkan, Fiza, Josh, Hamara Dil Aapke Paas Hai, Jungle, Kurukshetra, Mission Kashmir, Pukar, Refugee, Champion, Har Dil Jo Pyar Karega
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July 12, 2022 at 6:32 AM
All these are from NG.
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July 12, 2022 at 12:20 PM
From Twitter; it is in first comment.
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July 12, 2022 at 12:45 PM
Twitter users have taken it from NG is what i mean. These were published as early as 2011 on NG.
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July 12, 2022 at 12:59 PM
Abid use to post scans; I am not aware of year wise data being posted. NG went offline long time back with inactivity.
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July 1, 2022 at 5:33 AM
HALF-YEARLY CLASSIFICATION: 1997
AA (Super-Hit)
BORDER (‘AAA‘ in Delhi-U.P & East Punjab)
A1 (Hit)
JUDAAI (Average in West Bengal; ‘BB’ in Rajasthan)
HERO NO. 1
ZIDDI
JUDWAA
A (Semi-Hit)
VIRASAT (‘A1’ in Bombay; Average in West Bengal)
BB (Overflow)
Yeshwant (‘A1’ in Bombay; ‘B1’ in Delhi-U.P. & East Punjab)
Aastha
Coverage To Commission
Koyla (losing in some circuits)
Kaalia (losing in some circuits)
The Rest (43 Films)
Ganga Maange Khoon, Bandit Lovers (partly in Hindi), The Rock (dubbed), Nazarr, Jai Mahalaxmi Maa, Darawani Haveli, Aar Ya Paar, Love Birds (dubbed), Jaya Ganga, Chupp, Lion Heart (dubbed), Auzaar, Salma Pe Dil Aagaya, Tamanna, Sabse Bada Shaitaan (dubbed), Jeeo Shaan Se, Lahoo Ke Do Rang, Himalay Putra, Agnee Morcha, Gudgudee, Kaun Sachcha Kaun Jhootha, Dil Ke Jharoke Main, Khilone Ki Chahat Bani Papa Ki Aafat (dubbed), Suryaputra Shanidev, Mrityudaata, Ramayan Shri Ram Katha (animation), Sapnay (dubbed), Duniya Dilwalon Ki (dubbed), Dragonheart (dubbed), Sanam, Chudail, Zameer, Maun (dubbed), Mahanta, Sardari Begum, Insaaf, Zabardast Khatra (dubbed), Babe (dubbed), Gundagardi, The Phantom – Vetal (dubbed), Itihaas, Suraj, Allah Meherban To Gadha Pahelwan.
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July 10, 2022 at 5:15 AM
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July 18, 2022 at 10:07 PM
So Chupke Chupke was Commission Earner to Overflow (B+) category. It was not a clean hit. As I had said before, more you dig into old FI classifications, the myths of many so-called Bachchan hits will be deconstructed.
TG had many of these Overflow/CE as Hits.
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July 19, 2022 at 1:03 AM
I am not sure if it is a Trade Guide or Film Information verdict.
The nomenclature (+B) is more like Trade Guide but top heading looks like Film Information. It showed up on Twitter.
ps – Also the movies within a verdict category is alphabetical. If you see 1882 Trade Guide verdict that is also alphabetical.
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July 19, 2022 at 1:16 AM
Yes, ‘+B’ category is consistent with Trade Guide terminology. I guess its not FI and FI will probably have it a notch lower (CE probably).
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July 18, 2022 at 12:48 PM
Just checked the 1997 full FI classification (added recently?). Ishq is as known a Semi-Hit (A). Pardes is overflow, while both Yes Boss and Koyla are no more than commission earners.
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July 18, 2022 at 12:49 PM
And surprisingly Judwa is not a clean hit but an overflow.
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July 18, 2022 at 10:36 PM
All these are quite forgettable flicks. But Chupke Chupke was a very good film. It has aged well and it has repeat value. I watched it many times. This film information is about boxoffice and it cant be taken to diss good films like Chupke Chupke.
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July 18, 2022 at 10:55 PM
If a film is not a clean hit, then it s being dissed?
What has aged well or not are personal opinions.
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July 18, 2022 at 11:05 PM
Well, I am not sure but most of Hrishikesh mukherji’s films are not clean hits but they are a class apart.
CC was a multistarrer and Om Prakash was a riot.
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July 18, 2022 at 11:10 PM
I myself think CC is fine wine and has aged really well. But then some believe those ridiculous masala films of 70s and 80s have aged better, so dont want to get into that.
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July 19, 2022 at 12:50 AM
No one in their right mind would diss Hrishi da’s films Sanjana. However his films were more of urban class appealing content and yet he managed to sign up superstars like Khanna, Dharmendra and Bachchan sir which by default escalated acquisition costs. FI verdicts is all about acquired cost vs returns model regardless of footfalls or collections. Its a tribute to Bachchan’s mega stardom and finesse that he could deliver outstanding films across various genre’s like Anand, Zanjeer, Abhimaan, Chupke Chupke, Deewar, Sholay, Amar Akbar Anthony, Muqaddar, Trishul, Don, Shaan, Kala Patthar etc with legendary film makers like Yash Chopra, Prakash Mehra, Manmohan Desai and Hrishi da in the same decade.
ps – And Ramesh Sippy of course..
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October 9, 2022 at 4:36 AM
2001 classification is wrong. I had the photo of 2001 classification.
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October 9, 2022 at 4:42 AM
We have never seen scans of FI verdicts from 2000-2006. The verdicts mentioned here for these years are on various unconfirmed sources.
If you have the scans/photos of any of these years, then please post them here.
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December 30, 2022 at 2:28 PM
CLASSIFICATION: 1997
(Total 120 films, including 28 dubbed films)
AAA
(Super-Duper Hit)
BORDER
AA
(Super Hit)
DIL TO PAGAL HAI (‘AAA’ in Bombay, East Punjab & West Bengal)
A1
JUDAAI
HERO NO. 1
ZIDDI
A
VIRASAT (‘A1’ in Bombay)
ISHQ
CHACHI 420 (‘AA’ in Bombay, C.P. Berar)
BB
PARDES (‘A1’ in Bombay)
DEEWANA MASTANA (‘A1’ in Bombay)
JUDWAA (‘A’ in Bombay)
YESHWANT (‘A’ in Bombay)
ANACONDA (dubbed)
B1 to BB
GUPT (‘A1’ in Bombay & Tamilnadu-Kerala; average in some circuits)
BHAI (‘A’ in Delhi-U.P.)
ASTHA
B1
JODIDAR
THE LOST WORLD: JURASSIC PARK (dubbed)
B to B1
YES BOSS (‘A’ in Bombay & Nizam)
KAALIA
JUDGE MUJRIM
QAHAR
SHAPATH
KOYLA (‘BB’ in Nizam)
AUZAAR (‘BB’ in Nizam)
DAADAGIRI
B
CHUDAIL (‘BB’ in some circuits)
SURAJ
GHULAM-E-MUSTHAFA (‘BB’ in Bombay & C.P. Berar)
https://filminformation.com/featured/flashback-30-december-2022-from-our-issue-dated-3rd-january-1998/
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January 4, 2023 at 6:53 AM
FI did not publish yearly verdicts for the Covid years of 2020 and 2021. I guess there were not enough successes in the first place to provide them.
In 2020, Tanhaji would be the only success and would be classified as a Super Hit.
In 2021, Sooryavanshi would have been a Hit. Spiderman 3 and Pushpa 1 would have been Superhits.
Dont think any other released films would have made FI classification lists in 2020 and 2021.
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January 6, 2023 at 3:13 AM
Not sure if this has been posted in this thread above or not, but this is Komal Nahta’s 2020 Year End Report:
https://filminformation.com/featured/2020-85-releases-1-blockbuster-many-flops-multiple-deaths-1-shocking-suicide-all-that-made-news-in-the-year-gone-by-1-january-2021/
Tanhaji: The Unsung Warrior opened on 10th January, 2020 and went on to become a blockbuster. Baaghi 3, which released in March 2020, was also a successful fare. Other than these two films, no film in the first three months set the cash registers ringing at the ticket windows. Thappad did fair business but just about.
In all, only ten films released in the cinemas in the last almost two months. Adding these ten films to the 56 films released in cinemas prior to the lockdown, the tally went up to 66 films in the entire year. The figure of 66 new films has to be viewed in light of the extraordinary situation created by the pandemic and the lockdown. Effectively, Bollywood has had 66 new releases in just five months as there was not a single new release in cinemas from the month of April to October. Of the five months, November and December, the two months after the lockdown was lifted, were not too conducive for new releases.
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January 6, 2023 at 3:16 AM
FI did not post 2020 Classifications for just 3 films. But from Nahta’s commentary it looks like it would had been:
Super Duper Hit – Tanhaji
Commission Earner to Overflow – Baaghi 3
Coverage – Thappad
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January 4, 2023 at 11:28 PM
Year 2022 has been one of the worst years for the Hindi film industry. At least 14-15 films, which had big budgets and/or exciting star casts and lots of hopes pinned on them, failed to make the mark at the box-office. And of the 14 films, which scored at the ticket windows, just five were Hindi films, the others being dubbed versions of either South Indian films or of Hollywood films. The Hindi films which roared at the box-office were Drishyam 2, The Kashmir Files, Bhool Bhulaiyaa 2, Brahmastra: Part One – Shiva and Gangubai Kathiawadi. The other language films from India, which contributed phenomenally to the Hindi box-office were K.G.F. Chapter 2, RRR, Kantara and Karthikeya 2. The Hollywood films which created magic at the Hindi box-office were Avatar: The Way of Water, Doctor Strange In The Multiverse Of Madness, Top Gun: Maverick, Black Panther: Wakanda Forever and Thor: Love And Thunder.
The total box-office collections of the 14 successful films of 2022 was approximately Rs. 2,750 crore. This was around 50% of the total box-office collections of all the 197 films released in the year gone by. In other words, the total box-office revenues of the 14 successful films were almost equal to the box-office takings of the balance 183 unsuccessful/average films.
Cirkus, Shamshera, Vikram Vedha, Jayeshbhai Jordaar, Samrat Prithviraj, Laal Singh Chaddha, Raksha Bandhan, Dhaakad, Salaam Venky, Liger, Heropanti 2, Jersey, Bachchan Paandey and Radhe Shyam were the resounding flops which, considering their canvas and/or their budgets and other things, ought to have scored at the turnstiles. In other words, the trade had pinned a lot of hopes on each of the aforementioned and a few other films but their initials, public reports and ultimate businesses disappointed big time.
Sequels and franchise films were popular. Of course, there were several franchise films which failed to enthuse the public.Heropanti 2, Ek Villain Returns, HIT: The 2nd Case, Khuda Haafiz Chapter 2: Agni Pariksha, Jurassic World: Dominion (dubbed) and Prem Geet 3 (dubbed) were the sequels which did not live up to the expectations generated by the success of the earlier part/s. However, a whole lot of second and later parts of films worked wonders at the turnstiles. Drishyam 2 and Bhool Bhulaiyaa 2 were the Hindi sequels which not only did extremely well at the box-office but also exceeded the business of their respective first parts by leaps and bounds. Among the hit/super-hit dubbed franchise films were K.G.F. Chapter 2, Avatar: The Way Of Water, Karthikeya 2, Top Gun: Maverick and Black Panther: Wakanda Forever.
https://filminformation.com/featured/2022-round-up-lessons-learnt-4-january-2023/
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January 4, 2023 at 11:34 PM
Hit The 2nd Case is a Telugu film and Prem Geet part 1&2 never witnessed theatrical release in India. Komal’s articles seem as dated as his methodology now. Time for the next gen to take over FI.
Brahmastra & Gangubai being “roaring successes” is another one of his bluffs.
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January 5, 2023 at 12:10 AM
Petty quibblings aside, 24 hindi films made it to 2019 FI classifications. Whereas in 2022 there are only 5!
In contrast, there were 8 Hollywood successes in 2019. In 2022 there are 5, which is quite healthy.
Total successes have reduced to 14 from 32, a reduction of 56%! A thoroughly bad year at box office.
I think FI’s full classification for 2022 will be avaailable by tomorrow. I seriously doubt if Brahmastra or Gangubai will get Hit status.
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January 7, 2023 at 11:15 PM
Super Duper Hit
Ankhen
Superhit
Khalnayak
Hit
Baazigar
Darr
Anari
Semi Hit
Dallal
Roja
Tiranga (class AA in Bombay)
Overflow
Bhookamp
Aaina
Lootere
Hum Hai Rahi Pyar Ke (A in Maharashtra)
Damini
Muqabala (A in some circuit)
Game
Commission To Overflow
Aashik Awara (A in Bombay)
Gardish (A in Bombay, Delhi-Up)
Kundan
Waqt Hamara Hai (A in some circuit)
Pehchan
Commission Earner
Sir (A in Bombay, losing in other circuits)
Phool Aur Angaar (A in Bengal, losing in some circuits)
Rang
Gumrah
Coverage To Commission
Aadmi (BB in Bombay)
Dil Tera Aashiq (BB in Bombay,Nizam)
Ek Hi Raasta
Platform
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January 8, 2023 at 12:00 AM
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January 9, 2023 at 6:53 AM
CLASSIFICATION OF FILMS 2003 – TRADE GUIDE
A11 [Super Duper Hit]
Koi… Mil Gaya
A1 [Super Hit]
Andaaz [Delhi-U.P., Bihar, Rajasthan; ‘A’ elsewhere]
Bhoot [Mumbai, Delhi, South; ‘+B’ elsewhere]
Chalte Chalte [Mumbai, Delhi; ‘A’ elsewhere]
Kal Ho Naa Ho [Mumbai, Delhi, West Bengal; Commission to Coverage in other circuits; ‘A11’ in Overseas]
A [Hit]
Hungama [Mumbai; Commission to Overflow elsewhere]
Jism
Qayamat
Tere Naam [U.P.; Commission to Overflow elsewhere]
Tujhe Meri Kasam [Maharashtra, Bihar, C.P. Berar, C.I., Nizam]
+B [Overflow]
Baghban [‘A’ in Mumbai, Delhi-U.P., ‘A1’ in Overseas]
GangaaJal
Ishq Vishk [‘A’ in Mumbai]
Munnabhai M.B.B.S. [‘A’ in Mumbai, Delhi; Coverage to Commission elsewhere]
GOOD B [Commission/Overflow]
J2M2 [Mumbai]
Khwahish [some circuits]
The Hero [Mumbai, Delhi-U.P.]
Zameen [U.P.; Coverage to Commission in some circuits]
B [Coverage/Commission]
Main Prem Ki Diwani Hoon [‘A1′ in Overseas]
Market [some circuits]
MIXED RESPONSE
Chota Jadugar [Mumbai]
Dil Ka Rishta [Gujarat-Saurashtra; dull elsewhere]
Ek Aur Ek Gyarah [Delhi-U.P., Bihar; dull elsewhere]
Fun2shh [better in Mumbai]
Hawayein [best in Punjab, Overseas; dull elsewhere]
Janasheen [Commission to Overflow in some circuits]
Joggers’ Park [best in Mumbai, Delhi; average elsewhere]
Jhankaar Beats [best in Mumbai]
Jaal – The Trap [best in U.P.; dull elsewhere]
Kuch Naa Kaho [best in Mumbai; dull elsewhere]
https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/topic/3067190
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January 9, 2023 at 6:55 AM
2005 CLASSIFICATIONS – TRADE GUIDE (Taran Adarsh)
SUPER DUPER HIT
No Entry
HITS
Bunty Aur Babli
Garam Masala
Hanuman
Kyaa Kool Hai Hum
Maine Pyaar Kyun Kiya
Page 3 [Super Hit in Mumbai]
Sarkar [Super Hit in Mumbai]
Salaam | Namaste [Super Hit in Overseas]
Waqt [Super Hit in Mumbai, Overseas]
SEMI HITS
Apaharan
Dus
Kaal
Kalyug
Parineeta
Zeher
PARTIAL SUCCESS
Barsaat [Hindi belt]
Black [multiplexes of metros]
Dosti – Friends Forever [Hindi belt]
Iqbal [multiplexes]
Lucky – No Time For Love
Mangal Pandey – The Rising [due to extra-ordinary initial]
AVERAGE
Aashiq Banaya Aapne [some circuits]
Bluffmaster! [Better in Mumbai, Delhi; losing in some circuits]
Ek Ajnabee [some circuits]
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January 9, 2023 at 6:59 AM
2002 CLASSIFICATIONS – TRADE GUIDE
A11 (Super Duper Hit):
–
A1 (Super Hit):
Raaz
A (Hit):
Devdas Ek Chhotisi Love Story
+B (Overflow) :
Awara Paagal Deewana (in Mumbai, Delhi-U.P.; Good B elsewhere)
Deewangee (in Mumbai; Good B to B elsewhere)
Die Another Day (Dubbed)
Hum Tumhare Hain Sanam (in Delhi-U.P., Bihar, Rajasthan, Nizam)
Humraaz (in some circuits)
Kaante (in some circuits)
Spider-Man (Dubbed)
16 December
The Guru (Dubbed; in Mumbai, Delhi-U.P.)
Yeh Dil Aashiqanaa (in Delhi-U.P., Bihar, Punjab, C.P. Berar)
XXX (Dubbed)
Good B (Commission/Overflow):
Mere Yaar Ki Shaadi Hai (in some circuits)
Men In Black II (Dubbed)
Saathiya (in some circuits)
B (Coverage/Commission):
–
Mixed Response :
Aankhen
American Desi (partly Hindi)
Company
Dil Hai Tumhaara
Kya Yehi Pyaar Hai
Leela (partly Hindi)
Makdee
Maine Dil Tujhko Diya
Na Tum Jaano Na Hum
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January 9, 2023 at 8:37 AM
Was looking through the Trade Guide yearly classifications in place of the missing FI verdicts for the years of 2001, 2002, 2003 and 2005.
Taran is usually very lenient and his TG classifications are consistently lenient from what I have seen so far.
If we go with TG verdicts, then surprisingly DCH is a clean hit and films like Mangal Pandey and Main Prem Ki Diwani Hoon were commission earners due to huge initials, MP moreso as it took record opening as far as i can remember.
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January 9, 2023 at 10:37 AM
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January 9, 2023 at 2:08 PM
2006 CLASSIFICATION – TRADE GUIDE
Blockbuster:
Dhoom 2
Krrish
Lage Raho Munnabhai
Super Duper Hit:
Fanaa
Rang De Basanti
Vivah [Blockbuster in Bihar]
Super Hit:
Phir Hera Pheri
Hit:
Gangster [Mumbai; Semi Hit in other circuits]
Kabhi Alvida Naa Kehna
Malamaal Weekly
Semi Hit:
Apna Sapna Money Money
Don
Golmaal – Fun Unlimited
Pyaar Ke Side/Effects
Taxi No. 9211
Partial/Moderate Success:
Aksar
Bhagam Bhag
Chup Chup Ke [Mumbai, Delhi]
Khosla Ka Ghosla
Woh Lamhe
Average:
Being Cyrus [metros]
Corporate
Shaadi Se Pehle [some circuits]
Tom Dick And Harry [some circuits]
36 China Town [some circuits]
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January 9, 2023 at 9:35 PM
2007 CLASSIFICATIONS – TRADE GUIDE
BLOCKBUSTER
Om Shanti Om
SUPER DUPER HIT
Chak De India
Partner
Welcome [Mega-Blockbuster in Delhi-U.P., Punjab, C.P., C.I., Rajasthan, Bihar]
SUPER HIT
Bhool Bhulaiyaa
Heyy Babyy
Namastey London [North; Hit at places]
Taare Zameen Par [multiplexes]
HIT
Aap Kaa Surroor
Apne [North; Above average at places]
Bheja Fry
Guru [Super Hit in Mumbai]
Jab We Met
Shootout At Lokhandwala [Above average at places]
Ta Ra Rum Pum
ABOVE AVERAGE
Dhamaal [Average at places]
MULTIPLEX SUCCESS
Cheeni Kum [Better in Mumbai, Mysore]
Honeymoon Travels Pvt. Ltd. [Better in Mumbai]
Metro [Hit in big city multiplexes]
AVERAGE
Dhan Dhana Dhan Goal
Dhol
Dil Dosti Etc.
Fool N Final
Traffic Signal [Better in Mumbai]
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January 9, 2023 at 9:38 PM
2008 HALF-YEARLY CLASSIFICATION – TRADE GUIDE
SUPER HIT
Race
Jodhaa Akbar
Jannat
COMMISSION EARNER
Aamir
Krazzy 4
Mithya
Sarkar Raj [Mumbai-Maharashtra, South only]
COVERAGE TO COMMISSION EARNER
Mere Baap Pehle Aap
COVERAGE
Bhoothnath [some circuits]
One Two Three
Sunday [some circuits]
Shaurya
U Me Aur Hum [some circuits]
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January 12, 2023 at 2:17 AM
@Munna – Do you have Trade Guide/Taran Adarsh classifications for 2004? I could not find it in bollywoodhungama archives.
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January 12, 2023 at 4:40 AM
Classification of films 2004
By Taran Adarsh, December 28th, 2004 – 0930 hrs IST
A1
[Super Hit]
Murder
A
[Hit]
Dhoom
Hum Tum
Main Hoon Na
Mujhse Shaadi Karogi
Veer-Zaara
+B
[Overflow]
Hulchul
Julie
Masti
GOOD B
[Commission/Overflow]
Garv
Hawas
Tauba Tauba
B
[Coverage/Commission]
Aitraaz [some circuits]
Girl Friend [some circuits]
Khakee [some circuits]
Musafir [some circuits]
Note: [i] Last week�s releases have not been included in the classification.
[ii] Repeat-run films have also not been included.
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January 12, 2023 at 4:46 AM
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January 13, 2023 at 4:17 AM
98 report. Not sure if it is Taran Adarsh..
Kuch Kuch Hota Hai
Sold at 2 crore per territory
Gains 10 crore per territory
Did you know that Rani Mukherjee’s role was originally conceived for Twinkle Khanna
Pyar To Hona Hi Tha
Sold at 1.2 crore per territory
Gains 3.5 crore per territory
Did you know that the film was delayed by six months because frost affected the mustard harvest around Chandigarh where a portion of film was shot
Pyar Kiya To Darna Kya
Sold at 1.1 crore per territory
Gains 3 crore per territory
Did you know that the camera fell into the water and Khan brothers had to dive in to rescue the equipment
Soldier
Sold at 1.2 crore per territory
Gains 2.5 crore per territory
Did you know that Shekhar Kapoor recommended Preity Zinta for the film. She refused to go to the producer’s office saying that she was uncomfortable. As a result , the producers had to go to Shekhar’s house to sign her on
Ghulam
Sold at 1.25 – 1.35 crore per territory
Gains 1.5 – 2 crore per territory
Did you know that Rani Mukherjee’s role was assigned to Pooja Bhatt earlier and she refused
Jab Pyar Kisi Se Hota Hai
Sold at 1.1 crore per territory
Gains 1.5 – 2.2 crore per territory
Did you know that on screen love-pair Salman & Twinkle were not on talking terms while the shooting was on, but the rift did not show up on the screen.
Dulhe Raja
Sold at 80 lakhs per territory
Gains 1.5 – 2 crore per territory
Did you know that before this film , Govinda & Raveena were pencilled in as lead pairs for 4 other films which did not take off
Satya
Released on commision basis
Gains 4.5 crore in Bombay and 3 crore in rest of India
Did you know that there were no songs in the film initially, but Bharat Shah insisted on putting songs for some relief between the shootouts
Bandhan
Sold at 85 lakhs per territory
Gains 2.5 crore per territory in UP-Delhi & 1.5 crore in rest of India
Did you know that the film was snoozing in the cans for three years because the producers had run out of cash. Eventually, the VENUS records pumped in some money and got life out of it.
Bade Miya Chote Miya
Sold at 2.5 crore per territory
Gains 3.5 crore per territory
Did you know that one of the recorded songs (Doongi sau sau Rupaiya) was scrapped because David Dhawan felt a Punjabi number (Makhna) would be more appealing
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January 13, 2023 at 4:39 AM
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January 13, 2023 at 5:06 AM
@Munna – I was checking the indiafm archives at web.archive and it seems Taran Adarsh started writing for indiafm box-office columns only from 2001?
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January 13, 2023 at 5:20 AM
I see he him writing at least since May 2000. It could be earlier as well.
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January 13, 2023 at 5:37 AM
In that case his 2000 classification should be in the archives somewhere …
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January 13, 2023 at 7:37 AM
No full report or classification here, but some commentary from IndiaFM on the year 2000:
https://www.bollywoodhungama.com/news/bollywood/good-bye-2000/
The year 2000 will go down in the annals of Hindi cinema as the worst year. Worst, because the film industry in Mumbai saw the mightiest of films biting the dust. Films that were expected to take the nation by storm came and went without even a whimper. The year saw 230 films releasing in the calendar year, which is a record of sorts. For, never before has any year witnessed 230 releases ever. But the number of flops in the year 2000 was also a record breaker. You’ll be surprised to know that 90% of films flopped at the turnstiles, most of them not managing even a face-saving opening. What could be the reason behind the alarming ratio of flops? Just one factor Film scripts. With film-makers concentrating on enhancing the look of the film by way of production values and outdoor locations, the department that took a backseat was film scripts. To state that predictability ruled the roost, would be an understatement. Most Hindi films had nothing new to offer, which is why they were rejected outright. The year 2000 also witnessed well-made love stories being patronised by families in a big way. The three biggest hits of the year KAHO NAA PYAAR HAI, MOHABBATEIN and KYA KEHNA! were all love stories. Not that action flicks were rejected outright. But the paying public was not too excited watching blood and gore on screen. A wide section of people are of the opinion that with so much frustration and misery in everyday life, the common man is more inclined towards romance and music, which explains why love stories called the shots in 2000.
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January 13, 2023 at 8:44 PM
Mide 2000 commentary and ranking…
https://www.bollywoodhungama.com/news/bollywood/a-look-at-the-movies-of-2000/
Dulhan Hum Le Jayenge completed 100 days last week and Kaho Naa Pyaar Hai notched up a superb silver jubilee. The year 2000 saw the release of about 91 films till June 30th which is a higher figure than the previous year. Out of these 91 films, only a marginal 7 percent made a mark at the box office while the rest were duds at the box office. Looking the top 5 films of the year, the no.1 position goes to Rakesh Roshan’s Kaho Naa Pyaar Hai which is still going strong in about 84 theatres in the country. The success of this movie gave rise to two brilliant performers in Hrithik & Anmisha and gave birth to Hrithik mania which is still spreading like a fever in the country as well as overseas. Kya Kehna bagged the second position with it’s strong and a never-before-told story. It bought into limelight fading stars such as Preity, Saif & Chandrachur and silenced critics who always wrote off women oriented movies. The no.3 position goes to Mansoor Khan’s Josh. Shahrukh Khan who desperately needed a hit to counter the Hrithik mania found a solace in this movie. It added an icing on the cake to Aishwarya’s rising graph career and made people sit up and look at Sharad Kapoor’s performance as well as gave one more chance to Chandrachur Singh. Mansoor Khan could not celebrate the success of this movie as his mother expired one week after the release. Hera Pheri which mesmerized the Bombay audiences with it’s humorous and comedy flair bagged the fourth position. It was also a winner in some of the southern regions. Paresh Rawal emerged as the real hero of the movie while it proved that Akki & Sunil Shetty could also manage to do comedy. Going by the current collections, Refugee bags the fifth position. Though the film is a major let-down, it has managed to attract audiences due to the debut of two artistes, Abhishek Bachchan & Kareena Kapoor and the hype created around the movie. October 27 will witness the fight of the top three movies. Yash Chopra’s Mohabbatein will be in a duel with Aamir Khan’s home production Lagaan and Vidhu Vinod Chopra’s Mission Kashmir. If Mission Kashmir bombs, Hrithik’s position will be more affected than Shahrukh’s. Hrithik’s one hit put down Shahrukh and so the reverse is expected if Mission Kashmir fails in it’s mission. Yash Chopra who has the highest sucess at the box office so far could prop up the sagging career of Shahrukh and write off Hrithik temporarily. The sword now hangs over Hrithik. Let’s see who gets killed in the box office wars. The fight for the best male debutant of the year will be witnessed between Hrithik & Abhishek while Kareena & Amisha will lock horns for the best female debutante. Joining them will be Uday Chopra, Shamita Shetty, Kirti Reddy, Preeti Jhangiani and others who are sure to give each other a run for their performance. Should we say that this year is a do or a die battle for the young aspiring stars ?
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January 19, 2023 at 5:02 AM
BOI 2022 classification:
All Time Blockbuster
KGF2 (South)
Super Blockbuster
Avatar – The Way To Water (Hollywood)
The Kashmir Files
Blockbuster
RRR (South)
Drishyam 2
Bhool Bhulaiyaa 2
Super Hit
Kantara (South)
Hit
Dr Strange – In The Multiverse Of Madness (Hollywood)
Gangubai Kathiawadi
Semi Hit
Thor – Love And Thunder (Hollywood)
Jurassic World Dominion (Hollywood)
Average
Jugjugg Jeeyo
Black Adam (Hollywood)
Karthikeya 2 (South)
Below Average
The Batman (Hollywood)
Top Gun – Maverick (Hollywood)
Ek Villain Returns
Uunchai
Rocketry – The Nambi Effect
Flop
Vikram Vedha
Ram Setu
Bhediya
Badhaai Ho
Major (South)
Vikram (South)
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January 19, 2023 at 10:34 AM
Quite whimsical from BOI as usual. Kantara was as big a blockbuster as TKF. And Gangubhai/Brahmastra are both semi-hits. Bhediya shud be below average. Top Gun shud at least be average, if not above average.
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January 19, 2023 at 10:45 AM
I think they are talking only Hindi. Kantara in Hindi around 75 crores. TKF did 250 crs and RRR did 275 crs and Drishyam 2 also near to 240 crs. Some difference between them is fine.
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January 19, 2023 at 10:59 AM
Kantara hindi was 80 cr nett and its distribution price was negligible. Verdicts are not given based on end totals but wrt distribution price.
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March 24, 2023 at 3:41 AM
SUPER-HIT — CLASS ‘AA’ (films which earn three times their cost or more that in the box office): Hum Saath-Saath Hain
HIT — CLASS ‘A1’ (films which earn more than twice their cost, but less than three times their cost): None
SEMI-HIT — CLASS ‘A’ (films which earn twice their cost): Biwi No 1, Hum Aapke Dil Mein Rehte Hain, Daag — The Fire
OVERFLOW — CLASS ‘BB’ (films which earn more than 125% of their investment): Sarfarosh, Sirf Tum, Munnibai (this one is a very, very small-budget film which did good business in small towns and moffusil areas on the strength of its sex scenes), The Mummy (dubbed)
COMMISSION EARNERS — CLASS ‘B1’ (films which cover at least 20% over and above their investment): Hogi Pyar Ki Jeet, Kachche Dhaage, Taal (losing in some circuits but did very well in Bombay, south India and overseas), Hum Dil De Chuke Sanam (losing in several circuits but a hit in Bombay and Gujarat as well as in overseas), Haseena Maan Jaayegi, Vaastav (losing in parts of India but did very well in Maharashtra), Jaanbaaz Khiladi (dubbed), Maut Ka Samudra (dubbed)
AVERAGE — CLASS ‘B’ (films that earned back their investment): Arjun Pandit, Jaanwar, International Khiladi, Tez Raftaar (dubbed), Hindustan Ki Kasam, Titanic (dubbed)
https://www.rediff.com/movies/2000/jan/03box.htm
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March 27, 2023 at 12:45 PM
Thanks for the link!
Look at AB’s so-called Flop’s verdicts in finer details:
– Lal Baadshah (did well in Uttar Pradesh)
– Sooryavansham (semi-hit in West Bengal, overflow in Bihar and C P Berar)
Not outright flops at all. In today’s time these will be called Averages.
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March 27, 2023 at 1:16 PM
He had terrible films in the 90s which were deserved flops. Only Sooryavansham has achieved cult status for some weird reason.
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March 27, 2023 at 1:21 PM
Here is Komal Nahta’s commentary in 2000 on AB’s career:
https://m.rediff.com/movies/2000/oct/11box.htm
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March 27, 2023 at 12:47 PM
@Munna – You shud change the 1999 scans in the main post with this link as this has the detailed FI verdicts for 1999.
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March 27, 2023 at 12:27 PM
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March 27, 2023 at 1:03 PM
1987 was superstar Dharam’s last hurray with Hukumat and Aag hi Aag. Was 52 by then and almost 3 decades of work behind him.
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March 30, 2023 at 2:45 PM
Dharmendra also had 2 Semi-hits in 1987 in Loha and Insaaniyat Ke Dushman. That year was indeed his last triumph.
One has to feel for Dharmendra. He often does not get his due. I read somewhere that he has equal number of hits in his career as AB, maybe a couple more or less. The box office data from those days are hardly precise to be honest. And Dharmendra’s hits were spread out over 3 decades – sixties, seventies and eighties. He reached his peak in the seventies, but was drowned by the incredible runs of Rajesh Khanna in the early seventies and then AB from mid seventies. Otherwise his record in the seventies is much better than any of our 3 Khans’ best phases. Had it not been for such bad timing, Dharmendra would have got better recognition.
Much like Sunny’s best phase in his career was the nineties. But that also hardly gets its due, because Salman and SRK were at par with him in the nineties. And then Salman and SRK went to dominate over decades after, while Sunny’s last hurrah was in 2001 with Gadar (ATBB) and Indian (Hit).
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March 30, 2023 at 6:56 PM
Dharmendra’s career of hits lasted twice as long as Sunny’s and was always second to Rajendra Kumar (60s), Rajesh Khanna and then AB. That hoax about most hits is untrue though. They’ve included Avg grossers there. In terms of sheer success count he might be second to AB but in terms of huge hits and Blockbusters its Dilip Kumar whose probably at par with AB. Jeetendra is another under rated superstar by the way. Was huge in the 80s. Comparisons with the present lot might be unfair due to low volume of films signed by today’s superstars but if there’s anyone whose had a 4 decade+ long career apart from AB, its Dilip Kumar alone.
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March 30, 2023 at 8:07 PM
https://web.archive.org/web/20040202101923/http://boxofficeindia.com/topthree.htm
Gives somewhat of an idea although not entirely accurate. Dharmendra had his prime from 73-75 but had a far longer career than Khanna & Rajendra Kumar making him a far bigger star. Jeetendra was genuine competition to AB during the late 80s while Dilip Kumar & AB are the only actors to have unmatched #1 runs for over a decade. Much unlike SRKs dominance in the late 90s & early 00s that got regularly punctured by eith Sunny Deol or HR (post 2000). Even Salman’s dominance from 2010-16 was routinely bombed by Aamir Khan. I doubt Hindi cinema would ever see superstars of Dilip Kumar and AB levels again.
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March 31, 2023 at 3:46 AM
Its not a hoax. I once did some sanity check and found that Dharmendra surely has 50+ Hits (including Semi-Hits & excluding Average/Above Average fares), quite similar to AB. Dharmendra definitely had a similar breadth of hits as AB, if not more. Its just that AB’s hits were bigger.
As i said, Dharmendra just does not get his proper due anywhere. The main reson for that he cudnt dominate and dictate terms at box office over an extended period of around 10-12 years that AB/DK did with elan. Otherwise, he had a remarkable career spread over 3 solid decades.
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March 31, 2023 at 4:15 AM
There was no reinvention on Dharam’s part post his 40s like that of AB and DK. A huge superstar during his prime for sure. So were the likes of Dev Anand, Rajendra Kumar, Jeetendra etc. Its the longevity that sets AB & DK apart especially post their peaks. The longevity factor is applicable today as well but unlike yesteryear most gen z stars are gonna peak only post 40.
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March 31, 2023 at 4:33 AM
AB/DK has indeed distinguished themselves with respectable second innings. Dharmendra (despite some attempts) could not do so.
Rajendra was big in the sixties. But AB’s competition in 80s was not that intense from the likes of Jeetendra or Mithun, both of whom had extended careers with many hits; although the latter had indulged in B grade films. Jeetendra and Mithun’s challenge to AB in eighties were like Akshay/Devgn’s competition to the Khan trio today.
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March 31, 2023 at 4:37 AM
The Khans are touching 60 now. But do they need reinvention at this point? Aamir perhaps, since he has got nothing going after Dangal. But Srk and Salman are doing well and has excellent line-up of biggies these days. I dont think they are even thinking of re-invention (or will need to for sometime now).
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March 31, 2023 at 4:45 AM
You obviously won’t need reinvention when you have half a dozen visually appealing sequels with body doubles and CGI to cover up for your age 😉 Salman’s a gone case beyond all these countless sequels and remakes while SRK too would struggle to mold into something more suitable for his age. I don’t see any of these guys doing the likes of Kranti, Karma, Black, Sarkar or Pink from here on in. Its something like a Tom Cruise vis a vis Di Niro/Pacino. At least Cruise is genuinely fit and not a fakester like these 2 Khans.
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March 31, 2023 at 10:23 AM
SRK is no Tom Cruise (be it acting or fitness/stunts aspect) and Pathaan is not even close to being a Top Gun Maverick (perfect film in its genre).
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March 31, 2023 at 3:57 PM
The only one in Hindi cinema whose got the physicality and body language to replicate the TG/MI brand of cinema is Hrithik Roshan himself, as he proved it in War. More so nowadays when he’s managed to get rid of those hyperactive shenanigans and is a lot more comfortable being himself on camera over his last 3 films. If Fighter’s got a solid script minus the popcorn witlessness of the Dhoom and spy films, its one film to watch out for. The action would undoubtedly be phenomenal with more of practical effects & live locations than the gimmickry green screen CGI of a Pathan.
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March 27, 2023 at 4:31 PM
https://www.rediff.com/movies/2003/jul/08intro.htm
First half of the 2003 archives are here. A bland Semi Hit/Average grosser like Chalte Chalte is now celebrated as a Hit by SRK loyalists. Ditto for Akshay’s Andaz.
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March 28, 2023 at 2:13 AM
Interesting. So Chalte Chalte, Andaz, Bhoot and Jism are all Overflows in mid-year ratings of 2003. No clean hits.
Would like to see the year end FI verdicts from 2000-2006.
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March 28, 2023 at 5:06 AM
Nahta unfortunately left Rediff in 2003. Koi Mil Gaya was the only clean Hit that year with Baghban and Munnabhai being Semi Hits. Even KHNH was rated BB by the old BOI rating which i think was borrowed from FI.
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March 28, 2023 at 3:26 PM
This matches well with FI’s 2003 half-yearly verdicts as printed in FI archives:
A (SEMI-HIT):
– Chalte Chalte (Mumbai only BB/B1 elsewhere)
– Andaaz (Delhi/UP,Bihar/B1 elsewhere)
– Bhoot (Mumbai only/B1 elsewhere)
– Jism(Mumbai only/BB/B1 elsewhere)
BB (OVERFLOW):
– Ishq Vishq (Mumbai only,poor elsewhere)
– Tujhe Meri Kasam (Mumbai,B1 elsewhere)
B1 (COMMISSION EARNER):
– Khwahish
– Chota Jadugar (Mumbai only)
http://web.archive.org/web/20031112101036/http://boxofficeindia.com/tradereports.htm
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March 28, 2023 at 3:43 PM
Actually this is printed wrongly in BOI archive. Chalte chalte was Semi-Hit only in Mumbai. Its overall verdict will be Overflow. And so on for other films in this list.
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March 27, 2023 at 4:45 PM
https://www.rediff.com/movies/2000/nov/14box.htm
And Mohabbatein is Above Average to Hit! Quite a shocker.
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March 28, 2023 at 5:55 AM
Mohabbatein released end of october 2000 and this report is from mid november. That film trended well enough to get a clean hit verdict later on, i think.
I tried to see if FI yearly verdicts from 2000-2002 are available in rediff archives or not. But seems like that data has not been archived. We will have to see if FI website posts them retroactively in their flashback section over the coming years.
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March 28, 2023 at 9:42 AM
https://rediff.com/movies/2001/jan/24box.htm
23rd Jan 2001, 13 weeks running. Still an Above average to Hit. Its final year end status by FI was Semi Hit I guess. Its a HIT at max by today’s terms. Not this stupendous Blockbuster the modern day trade claims. Clear case of SRKs PR at work.
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March 28, 2023 at 9:59 AM
Agreed!
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March 28, 2023 at 11:14 AM
Just cross-checked, Komal had upgraded it to Hit status by May 2001:
https://m.rediff.com/movies/2001/may/01box.htm
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March 28, 2023 at 11:39 AM
From archives of Rediff weekly box-office by Komal Nahta:
2000 FI Verdicts:
SUPERHIT (AA) – Kaho Naa…Pyaar Hai
HIT (A1) – Mohabbatein
OVERFLOW (BB) – Kya Kehna! (A1 in Bombay)
COMMISSION EARNER (B1)- Jungle, Refugee
COVERAGE (B) – Bichhoo (B1 in north India), Josh (B1 in Bombay & South), Joru Ka Ghulam (B1 in Maharashtra), Dulhan Hum Le Jayenge (Losing in some circuits), Mission Kashmir (B1 in Bombay), Kurukshetra, Fiza (B1 in Bombay), Hamara Dil Aapke Paas Hai (A1 in Gujrat & B1 in Bombay), Har Dil Jo Pyar Karega, Dulhan Hum Le Jayenge, Badal (B1 in North, Bengal, Bihar), Pukar (B1 in Bombay, South, CP Berar), Krodh, X-Men, Gladiator, Chote Miyan, Qayamat
LOSER/BELOW AVERAGE – Kunwara, Hadh Kar Di Aapne, Dhadkan (Good in Bombay and Maharashtra and excellent in Bihar), Tera Jadoo Chal Gayaa, Tarkieb, Jung, Hera Pheri (BB in Bombay & South), Chal Mere Bhai, Baaghi, Phir Bhi Dil Hai Hindustani (B in Bombay), Sultaan, Hey! Ram, Mela (B1 in Hindi Belt), Champion
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March 29, 2023 at 11:52 AM
KNPH was mostly an AAA by year end I suppose. Was quite a small film starring 2 debutants to collect higher than HSSH and Mohabbatein.
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March 29, 2023 at 12:01 PM
KNPH released in Jan 2000 and it last featured in Nahta’s weekly columns at end of Sep after running for 37 weeks. Its verdict was still Superhit only.
https://www.rediff.com/movies/2000/sep/29box.htm
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March 29, 2023 at 10:14 AM
@Shivaay – We once debated on whether 2003-2004 old archives of BOI had verdicts from FI or not. I was checking BOI archives recently and found the exact difference between their classification methodology and FI’s.
Old BOI’s verdicts were classified with this methodology:
A111-All Time Blockbuster(300%+ Return)
AAA-Super Duper Hit(225-299% Return)
A11-Super Hit(175-224% Return)
AA-Super Hit/Hit(125-174% Return)
A1-Hit(75-124% Return)
A-Semi Hit(50-74% Return)
BB-Above Average(25-49% Return)
B1-Average(10-24% Return)
B-Below Average
Whereas, FI’s classification terminology is the following:
AAA – SUPER-DUPER-HIT (films which earn much more than three times their cost)
AA – SUPERHIT (films which earn three times their cost)
A1 – HIT (films which earn more than twice their cost, but less than three times their cost)
A – SEMI-HIT (films which earn twice their cost)
BB – OVERFLOW (films which earn more than 125% of their investment)
B1 – COMMISSION EARNERS (films which cover at least 20% over and above their investment)
B – AVERAGE(films that earned back their investment)
So what is a Semi-Hit (A) by old BOI is actually no more than Overflow (BB) by FI. So these are not clean hits. Even some of the Hits (A1) films in old BOI will only be Overflows(BB) and SEmi-Hits(A) as per FI. Such differences has to be kept in mind when reading the verdicts of old BOI and comparing it with FI …
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March 29, 2023 at 11:49 AM
BOI archives of 2003-04 is still the closest thing to FI until we get hold of FIs actual scans. And I doubt Komal himself is using this method these days. I don’t see films like Mission Mangal, Good News, Raid or S30 doing over 200-300% ROI based on their production costs.
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March 29, 2023 at 12:11 PM
Due to the difference in the classification terminology, the old BOI data on AB’s films look much larger-than-life than AB’s filmography actually is. It is still an incredible record, although the lifetime hit count comes down to 57 instead of 69 (including the semi-hits or overflows). In his first phase of career itself (1969-1994), the hit count was 43 (again including semi-hits or overflows).
For comparison sake, Srk till date has 29 hits, Salman 32 and Aamir 20 (again including semi-hits or overflows), making these finer adjustments from old BOI data.
Also, FI considers ‘cost’ as distribution price – NOT entire budget of the film. I dont know the distribution cost of Good News, Mission Mangal or Raid to comment on their ROI %.
Anyways, FI has stopped giving their verdicts from 2020 onwards.
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March 29, 2023 at 12:30 PM
BOI archives most likely borrowed their data from Trade Guide than FI. And liberalized it further to suit their agenda down the years. Either ways AB didn’t have more than half a dozen flops from 1973-88 despite doing 75 odd films. Which is a historic success ratio for any mainstream star in his prime. Only Dilip Kumar might be equal but with less than half the number of films.
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March 29, 2023 at 1:57 PM
It seems to me that BOI was attempting to have its unique verdict systemduring its foundation years of 2003-04, which was somewhat of a middle-ground between FI and TG verdicts. Eventually they redesigned the site in 2005 & they changed/liberalized verdicts according to their biases.
FI verdicts will remain the best data (and most unbiased although its not always perfect – nothing actually is) in future, to refer back to the Bollywood box office story in the last 3 decades. It would have been nice if TG data was also preserved, not unfortunately v less has been so far. TG maybe be quite lenient with its verdicts, but its also unbiased like FI. It is BOI’s current data which is heavily corrupt & biased based on their star preferences.
AB’s record is incredible, no matter how it is sliced or diced. No two ways about it. Its just lamentable that so little data and verdicts from 70s and 80s have been archived from FI and TG. Pathetic job by Komal and Taran who are more busy making silly commentary in current times on popular media (completely redundant in today’s age of over information from too many other sources).
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March 30, 2023 at 3:58 AM
AB’s success ratio may have been astounding in his first innings, but it got diluted a lot with all the flops accumulating over his second innings. So overall success ratio is nothing exemplary. Dilip Kumar was much more selective in his films both in his first innings and second innings. DK did 56-57 films overall in his career as opposed to 150+ films in AB’s filmography. They are not comparable.
DK’s hit ratio will perhaps remain the highest among all Bollywood superstars (assuming Khans and HR are the last of that species). I dont see SRK/Aamir matching up to DK’s by the end of their careers, although they have been quite selective for major portions of their careers. They have perhaps 10-15 films left to do yet, unless a miracle happens and they start doing films left and right. Aamir will do well if he does even 10 films from here onwards.
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April 7, 2023 at 10:11 AM
Dilip Kumar’s career:
1. Jugnu (1947) – HIT
2. Mela (1948) – HIT
3. Shaheed (1948) – SUPERHIT
4. Nadiya Ke Par (1948) – SEMI-HIT
5. Shubnam (1949) – HIT
6. Andaz (1949) – SUPERHIT
7. Jogan (1950) – HIT
8. Arzoo (1950) – SEMI-HIT
9. Babul (1950) – HIT
10. Deedar (1951) – HIT
11. Hulchul (1951) – SEMI-HIT
12. Aan (1952) – SUPERHIT
13. Daag (1952) – HIT
14. Footpath (1953) – SEMI-HIT
15. Insaniyat (1955) – SEMI-HIT
16. Udan Khatola (1955) – HIT
17. Azaad (1955) – SUPERHIT
18. Naya Daur (1957) – SUPERHIT
19. Yahudi (1958) – HIT
20. Madhumati (1958) – SUPERHIT
21. Paigham (1959) – SUPERHIT
22. Kohinoor (1960) – HIT
23. Mughal-E-Azam (1960) – ALL TIME BLOCKBUSTER
24. Ganga Jamuna (1961) – SUPERHIT
25. Ram Aur Shyam (1967) – SUPERHIT
26. Gopi (1970) – SEMI-HIT
27. Kranti (1981) – SUPERHIT
28. Vidhata (1982) – SUPERHIT
29. Shakti (1982) – SEMI-HIT
30. Karma (1986) – SUPERHIT
31. Saudagar (1991) – SEMI-HIT
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April 7, 2023 at 10:12 AM
Raj Kapoor’s career at box-office:
1. Neel Kamal (1947) – SEMI-HIT
2. Barsaat (1949) – SUPERHIT
3. Andaz (1949) – SUPERHIT
4. Parivartan (1949) – SEMI-HIT
5. Sargam (1950) – SEMI-HIT
6. Dastaan (1950) – HIT
7. Aawara (1951) – SUPERHIT
8. Anhonee (1952) – HIT
9. Boot Polish (1954) – SEMI-HIT
10. Shree 420 (1955) – SUPERHIT
11. Chori Chori (1956) – HIT
12. Phir Subah Hogi (1958) – HIT
13. Parvarish (1958) – SEMI-HIT
14. Anari (1959) – SUPERHIT
15. Jis Desh Mein Ganga Behti Hai (1960) – HIT
16. Sangam (1964) – SUPERHIT
17. Kal Aaj Aur Kal (1971) – SEMI-HIT
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April 7, 2023 at 10:12 AM
Dev Anand’s career:
1. Ziddi (1948) – HIT
2. Jeet (1949) – HIT
3. Dilruba (1950) – SEMI-HIT
4. Baazi (1951) – SUPERHIT
5. Jaal (1952) – SUPERHIT
6. Tamasha (1952) – SEMI-HIT
7. Taxi Driver (1954) – SUPERHIT
8. Munimji (1955) – SEMI-HIT
9. Insaniyat (1955) – SEMI-HIT
10. C.I.D. (1956) – SUPERHIT
11. Nau Do Gyarah (1957) – HIT
12. Paying Guest (1957) – HIT
13. Kala Pani (1958) – SEMI-HIT
14. Kala Bazar (1960) – SEMI-HIT
15. Jab Pyar Kisi Se Hota Hai (1961) – HIT
16. Hum Dono (1961) – HIT
17. Asli-Naqli (1962) – HIT
18. Tere Ghar Ke Samne (1963) – HIT
19. Guide (1965) – SUPERHIT
20. Jewel Thief (1967) – SUPERHIT
21. Mahal (1969) – SEMI-HIT
22. Johny Mera Naam (1970) – SUPERHIT
23. Tere Mere Sapne (1971) – SEMI-HIT
24. Hare Krishna Hare Ram (1971) – HIT
25. Yeh Gulistan Hamara (1972) – SEMI-HIT
26. Amir Garib (1974) – HIT
27. Warrant (1975) – HIT
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April 7, 2023 at 10:13 AM
Rajendra Kumar’s career:
1. Vachan (1955) – HIT
2. Toofan Aur Diya (1956) – SEMI-HIT
3. Mother India (1957) – ATBB
4. Dhool Ka Phool (1959) – HIT
5. Goonj Uthi Sehnai (1959) – HIT
6. Kanoon (1960) – SEMI-HIT
7. Gharana (1961) – HIT
8. Aas Ka Panchhi (1961) – HIT
9. Sasural (1961) – HIT
10. Mere Mehboob (1963) – SUPERHIT
11. Dil Ek Mandir (1963) – HIT
12. Gehra Daag (1963) – SEMI-HIT
13. Sangam (1964) – SUPERHIT
14. Aye Milan Ki Bela (1964) – SUPERHIT
15. Zindagi (1964) – HIT
16. Arzoo (1965) – SUPERHIT
17. Suraj (1966) – SUPERHIT
18. Gora Aur Kala (1972) – HIT
19. Love Story (1981) – SUPERHIT
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April 7, 2023 at 10:14 AM
Rajesh Khanna:
1. Bandhan (1969) – HIT
2. Aradhana (1969) – SUPERHIT
3. Do Raaste (1969) – SUPERHIT
4. Doli (1969) – SEMI-HIT
5. Ittefaq (1969) – SEMI-HIT
6. The Train (1970) – SEMI-HIT
7. Sachaa Jhutha (1970) – SUPERHIT
8. Safar (1970) – HIT
9. Kati Patang (1970) – HIT
10. Aan Milo Sajna (1970) – HIT
11. Anand (1971) – SEMI-HIT
12. Andaz (1971) – HIT
13. Haathi Mere Saathi (1971) – SUPERHIT
14. Amar Prem (1971) – SEMI-HIT
15. Maryada (1971) – SEMI-HIT
16. Dushman (1972) – HIT
17. Apna Desh (1972) – HIT
18. Anuraag (1972) – SEMI-HIT
19. Namak Haram (1973) – SEMI-HIT
20. Daag (1973) – HIT
21. Prem Nagar (1974) – HIT
22. Roti (1974) – HIT
23. Aap Ki Kasam (1974) – SEMI-HIT
24. Amardeep (1979) – SEMI-HIT
25. Thodisi Bewafaii (1980) – SEMI-HIT
26. Souten (1983) – SEMI-HIT
27. Avtaar (1983) – HIT
28. Maqsad (1984) – SEMI-HIT
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April 7, 2023 at 10:15 AM
Bachchan:
1971 – Anand (SEMI-HIT)
1973 – Zanjeer (SUPERHIT), Namak Haram (SEMI-HIT)
1974 – Roti Kapada Makaan (BLOCKBUSTER), Majboor (SEMI-HIT)
1975 – Sholay (ALL TIME BLOCKBUSTER), Deewar (SUPERHIT), Chupke Chupke (SEMI-HIT)
1976 – Hera Pheri (HIT), Kabhi Kabhie (SEMI-HIT), Do Anjaane (SEMI-HIT)
1977 (3) – Amar Akbar Abthony (BLOCKBUSTER), Parvarish (HIT), Khoon Pasina (SEMI-HIT)
1978 (4) – Muqaddar Ka Sikander (BLOCKBUSTER), Trishul (SUPERHIT), Don (HIT), Kasme Vaade (SEMI-HIT)
1979 (2) – Suhaag (HIT), Mr Natwarlal (SEMI-HIT)
1980 – Dostana (SUPERHIT), Ram Balraam (SEMI-HIT)
1981 – Lawaaris (SUPERHIT), Naseeb (HIT)
1982 – Khudaar (SUPERHIT), Namak Halaal (SUPERHIT), Desh Premee (HIT), Satte Pe Satta (HIT), Bemisaal (SEMI-HIT), Shakti (SEMI-HIT)
1983 – Coolie (SUPERHIT), Andha Kanoon (HIT)
1984 – Sharaabi (HIT)
1985 – Mard (HIT), Geraftaar (HIT)
1986 – Aakhree Raasta (SEMI-HIT)
1988 – Shahenshah (SEMI-HIT)
1990 – Aaj Ka Arjun (HIT)
1991 – Hum (SEMI-HIT)
1998 – Bade Miyan Chote Miyan (SEMI-HIT), Major Saab (SEMI-HIT)
2000 – Mohabbatein* (HIT)
2001 – Kabhi Khushi Kabhie Gham* (HIT)
2003 – Baghban* (SEMI-HIT)
2005 – Bunty Aur Babli (HIT), Sarkar* (SEMI-HIT), Waqt (SEMI-HIT)
2006 – Kabhi Alvida Na Kehna (SEMI-HIT)
2015 – Piku* (HIT)
2016 – Pink** (HIT)
2018 – 102 Not Out* (SEMI-HIT)
2019 – Badla* (HIT)
2022 – Brahmastra (SEMI-HIT)
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April 7, 2023 at 10:17 AM
Dharmendra:
1. Shola Aur Shabnam (1961) – SEMI-HIT
2. Anpadh (1962) – HIT
3. Bandini (1963) – SEMI-HIT
4. Haqeeqat (1964) – HIT
5. Aye Milan Ki Bela (1964) – SUPERHIT
6. Kaajal (1965) – HIT
7. Aye Din Bahar Ke (1966) – HIT
8. Phool Aur Patthar (1966) – SUPERHIT
9. Izzat (1968) – SEMI-HIT
10. Shikar (1968) – HIT
11. Aankhen (1968) – SUPERHIT
12. Yakeen (1969) – SEMI-HIT
13. Aaya Sawan Jhoom Ke (1969) – HIT
14. Kab Kyon Aur Kahan (1970) – SEMI-HIT
15. Tum Haseen Main Jawan (1970) – HIT
16. Sharafat (1970) – HIT
17. Jeevan Mrityu (1970) – HIT
18. Naya Zamana (1971) – SEMI-HIT
19. Mera Gaon Mera Desh (1971) – SUPERHIT
20. Samadhi (1972) – SEMI-HIT
21. Raja Jani (1972) – HIT
22. Seeta Aur Geeta (1972) – SUPERHIT
23. Loafer (1973) – HIT
24. Kahani Kismet Ki (1973) – HIT
25. Yaadon Ki Baraat (1973) – HIT
26. Jugnu (1973) – SUPERHIT
27. Patthar Aur Payal (1974) – SEMI-HIT
28. Dost (1974) – HIT
29. Pratiggya (1975) – SUPERHIT
30. Chupke Chupke (1975) – SEMI-HIT
31. Sholay (1975) – ALL TIME BLOCKBUSTER
32. Maa (1976) – SEMI-HIT
33. Charas (1976) – HIT
34. Chacha Bhatija (1977) – HIT
35. Dharam Veer (1977) – SUPERHIT
36. Azaad (1978) – SEMI-HIT
37. Ali Baba Aur 40 Chor (1980) – SEMI-HIT
38. Ram Balram (1980) – SEMI-HIT
39. Kaatilon Ke Kaatil (1981) – HIT
40. Samraat (1982) – SEMI-HIT
41. Baghavat (1982) – SEMI-HIT
42. Jaani Dost (1983) – SEMI-HIT
43. Naukar Biwi Ka (1983) – HIT
44. Ghulami (1985) – SEMI-HIT
45. Aag Hi Aag (1987) – HIT
46. Hukumat (1987) – HIT
47. Loha (1987) – SEMI-HIT
48. Insaaniyat Ke Dushman (1987) – SEMI-HIT
49. Watan Ke Rakhwale (1987) – SEMI-HIT
50. Ilaaka (1989) – SEMI-HIT
51. Tehalka (1992) – SEMI-HIT
52. Pyaar Kiya To Darna Kya (1998) – HIT
53. Munnibai (1999) – SEMI-HIT
54. Yamla Pagla Deewana (2011) – HIT
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April 7, 2023 at 10:17 AM
Jeetendra:
1. Farz (1967) – SUPERHIT
2. Jeene Ki Raah (1969) – HIT
3. Jigri Dost (1969) – HIT
4. Waris (1969) – HIT
5. Khilona (1970) – HIT
6. Humjoli (1970) – HIT
7. Caravan (1971) – HIT
8. Bhai Ho To Aisa (1972) – SEMI-HIT
9. Jaise Ko Taisa (1973) – SEMI-HIT
10. Bidaai (1974) – HIT
11. Roti (1974) – HIT
12. Nagin (1976) – SUPERHIT
13. Dharam Veer (1977) – SUPERHIT
14. Apnapan (1977) – HIT
14. Swarg Narak (1978) – HIT
15. Karmayogi (1978) – SEMI-HIT
16. Jaani Dushman (1979) – SUPERHIT
17. Khandaan (1979) – SEMI-HIT
18. Aasha (1980) – SUPERHIT
19. Jyoti Bane Jwala (1980) – HIT
20. Judaai (1980) – HIT
21. Maang Bharo Sajana (1980) – SEMI-HIT
22. Meri Aawaz Suno (1981) – SUPERHIT
23. Ek Hi Bhool (1981) – HIT
24. Farz Aur Kanoon (1982) – SUPERHIT
25. Chorni (1982) – HIT
26. Jeeo Aur Jeene Do (1982) – HIT
27. Samraat (1982) – SEMI-HIT
28. Dharam Kanta (1982) – SEMI-HIT
29. Himmatwala (1983) – HIT
30. Justice Chaudhury (1983) – HIT
31. Mawaali (1983) – HIT
32. Jaani Dost (1983) – SEMI-HIT
33. Arpan (1983) – SEMI-HIT
34. Tohfa (1984) – HIT
35. Maqsad (1984) – SEMI-HIT
36. Qaidi (1984) – SEMI-HIT
37. Sanjog (1985) – HIT
38. Haqeeqat (1985) – SEMI-HIT
39. Swarg Se Sundar (1986) – HIT
40. Ghar Sansar (1986) – SEMI-HIT
41. Dosti Dushmani (1986) – SEMI-HIT
42. Sindoor (1987) – HIT
43. Khudgarz (1987) – HIT
44. Aulad (1987) – SEMI-HIT
45. Thaneedar (1990) – SEMI-HIT
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April 7, 2023 at 10:18 AM
Salman:
1. Maine Pyar Kiya (1989) – ALL TIME BLOCKBUSTER *
2. Baaghi (1990) – HIT
3. Sanam Bewafa (1991) – SUPERHIT
4. Saajan (1991) – SUPERHIT *
5. Kurbaan (1991) – HIT
6. Hum Aapke Hain Koun..! (1994) – ALL TIME BLOCKBUSTER *
7. Karan Arjun (1995) – BLOCKBUSTER
8. Jeet (1996) – HIT
9. Judwaa (1997) – SEMI-HIT
10. Pyaar Kiya To Darna Kya (1998) – HIT
11. Jab Pyaar Kissi Se Hota Hai (1998) – SEMI-HIT
12. Bandhan (1998) – HIT
13. Biwi No. 1 (1999) – HIT
14. Hum Saath Saath Hain (1999) – SUPERHIT
15. Tere Naam (2003) – SEMI-HIT *
16. Baghban (2003) – SEMI-HIT *
17. Mujhse Shaadi Karogi (2004) – SEMI-HIT
18. No Entry (2005) – SUPERHIT
19. Maine Pyar Kyun Kiya (2005) – SEMI-HIT
20. Partner (2007) – HIT
21. Dabangg (2010) – SUPERHIT
22. Ready (2011) – HIT
23. Bodyguard (2011) – SUPERHIT
24. Ek Tha Tiger (2012) – BLOCKBUSTER
25. Dabangg 2 (2012) – SUPERHIT
26. Kick (2014) – SUPERHIT
27. Bajrangi Bhaijaan (2015) – BLOCKBUSTER **
28. Prem Ratan Dhan Payo (2015) – SEMI-HIT
29. Sultan (2016) – BLOCKBUSTER *
30. Tiger Zinda Hai (2017) – BLOCKBUSTER
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April 7, 2023 at 10:20 AM
SRK:
1. Deewana (1992) – HIT
2. Darr (1993) – HIT
3. Baazigar (1993) – HIT
4. Karan Arjun (1995) – BLOCKBUSTER
5. Dilwale Dulhaniya Le Jayenge (1995) – ALL TIME BLOCKBUSTER
6. Ram Jaane (1995) – SEMI-HIT
7. Dil Toh Pagal Hai (1997) – SUPERHIT
8. Pardes (1997) – SEMI-HIT
9. Kuch Kuch Hota Hai (1998) – ALL TIME BLOCKBUSTER
10. Mohabbatein (2000) – HIT
11. Kabhi Khushi Kabhie Gham (2001) – HIT
12. Devdas (2002) – SEMI-HIT
13. Chalte Chalte (2002) – SEMI-HIT
14. Kal Ho Na Ho (2003) – SEMI-HIT
15. Main Hoon Na (2004) – SEMI-HIT
16. Veer-Zaara (2004) – HIT
17. Chak De India (2007) – SUPERHIT
18. Om Shanti Om (2007) – SUPERHIT
19. Rab Ne Bana Di Jodi (2008) – SUPERHIT
20. Jab Tak Hai Jaan (2012) – HIT
21. Chennai Express (2013) – ALL TIME BLOCKBUSTER
22. Happy New Year (2014) – HIT
23. Dear Zindagi (2016) – HIT
24. Pathaan (2022) – ALL TIME BLOCKBUSTER
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April 7, 2023 at 10:30 AM
Why is KANK listed as a Semi-Hit for Bachchan but not for SRK?
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April 7, 2023 at 10:51 AM
Its not even overflow (25% profit) – remove it from everywhere.
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April 7, 2023 at 11:47 AM
so you make the rules as you go?
how is Kranti, Dharma-Veer not Blockbuster?
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April 7, 2023 at 1:00 PM
Raj: It’s all relative. It’s basically all semi-hits are clean Hits, and superhits are Blockbusters and Blockbuster are Super blockbusters. It’s just a another way to classify and eventually it means the same. So many flaws in this classification that none if them take it seriously.
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April 7, 2023 at 1:19 PM
This thread has become too long. Please use child thread to discuss verdicts.
https://satyamshot.wordpress.com/2023/04/07/film-information-and-past-box-office-discussions/
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