Thugs of Hindostan trailers (2) (updated)

thanks to Bliss and Jeeves…

thanks to Bliss and Jeeves…


thanks to Bliss…

thanks to Marcus

no new trailers (!) but older thread had to be closed off because of too many comments..

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399 Responses to “Thugs of Hindostan trailers (2) (updated)”

  1. Its officially gone viral.

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    • that’s quite a number!

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      • When ‘true’ legends come together – nature responds. ..

        There was something in these lines said during the epic battle of avatar.

        Bachchan was said to be the most professional star actor cum superstar that the industry ever had. Aamir is known for single-handedly taking responsibility of delivering good films since lagaan. These are different approach and attitude altogether, and will have different set of supporters. So no more of ‘fighting’ from my side.

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  2. aamirsaurabh Says:

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    • I’m not sure about China here. It would be a good result for Bollywood if China is receptive to a more masala based format but I’d be surprised – Aamir might be a big star there but he’s no miracle man! Might be a case of take what you get from there with this one.

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      • After BB2 and Asura’s recent runs in China, I will be holding my horses. Even 50m might be a big win for ToH in China if it happens.

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  4. I can’t take YouTube hits seriously till someone graphs YouTube hits to box office collections. I seriously doubt there is a huge correlation to total collections let alone trending and only probably opening has any sort of vague correlation but that’s obvious anyway. And with a movie like TOH it’s just a formality it would take this record, I’d be more shocked if it didn’t break this record! And it’s a record I wouldn’t be surprised that 2.0/Zero breaks either or another biggie around the corner.

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  5. Telgu Trailer

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  6. And the Tamil one:

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  7. Aamir on Darr:

    “They don’t fail to understand my approach They simply tell lies. Yes it hurts tremendously when they do this.

    Regarding Yash Chopra’s accusation I’d like to put things in perspective. In the first narration he told me that Sunny (Deol) and I would fight but it would be Juhi (The woman whom I was obsessed with and harassing) who would kill me. That was poetic justice. Then I came to know that he had narrated a different climax to Sunny in which Sunny would kill me. So I asked for a joint narration.

    I was concerned about my screen image. I was certainly not going to be beaten up by a regular hero in a regular commercial film. See, I didn’t mind being beaten up by Deepak Tijori in Jo Jeeta Wohi Sikandar because that was a different kind of film.

    But if you have a casting coup like Sunny and me then I certainly don’t want to be beaten up by him or even Arnold Schwarzenegger for that matter. Is there anything wrong with that?

    When Yashji told me it would be an equal fight in the climax I asked him what he meant by that and he said both of us would have an equal number of punches. These were his words, said in the presence of cameraman Manmohan Singh and scriptwriter Honey Irani. In any case it made more sense to have a heroine who has been terrorised all along killing her tormentor.

    Yashji has also said that I had second thoughts about playing a negative role. Far from it… in fact, I would not have glamorised the role the way it was done in the film if I had done it. The character had a mental problem and it should have been played accordingly.”

    https://www.filmibeat.com/bollywood/features/2018/aamir-khan-slammed-yash-chopra-after-being-replaced-shahrukh-khan-said-they-all-lie-it-hurt/articlecontent-pf265102-277857.html

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    Where exactly would Srk be without Darr and DDLJ?

    More importantly, where would Aamir be today if he had allowed himself to be ‘institutionalized’ in his early days itself?

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    • Surprised at how much Aamir cared about this. Seems so trivial and silly. I mean it’s poetic that Juhi kills him but Sunny killing him too is fine & after all it is Bollywood. Never ceases to amaze me the male ego sometimes, it’s not WWF! How many punches will I get? LOL.

      Anyway glad this ‘what if’ never happened! They both went separate paths. Close shave missed!

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      • Its not about counting the punches. Thats how YRF put it across then. Its about NOT falling in line to industry stalwarts’ BS or blindly doing what director/producer tells a star-actor to do.

        Its also a question of ethics since different narrations were given to different stars to make a casting coup happen. Also note how he insists he would not glamorize such a role and would play it naturally rather than ham like srk!

        Aamir was born as an industry kid. He had ‘easy’ access to chopras et al. He was cast in Parampara. Although that movie did not do well, chopras still wanted him in Darr. Had he fallen in line he would have got DDLJ too.

        He was young then and perhaps cared too much about his hero-persona. Superstars are still doing it at the age of 50 and more!

        Its this NO compromise attitude that defines Aamir – sadly not many of his fans get it. Its basically ‘my way or highway’ approach regarding the work you do. It was never about falling in line with the industry, but setting trends for the industry to follow later on (too many of them to count at this point).

        Its not about getting ‘institutionalized’ but redefining the existing institution to make it better.

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        • I’m glad he’s headstrong and didn’t get institutionalised but at same time it’s pretty obvious he’s taking a dig at SRK here too with how he’d play the character. The K-k-k-k Kiran is pretty iconic for SRK and this role got him DDLJ. I always ‘wondered’ the what if but seeing where they both are now the tortoise has won this race.

          It’s easy when you know the result. Hindsight is the best special power possible.

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          • Its really easy looking at it after its done. The industry maybe following Aamir at this point, but Kangana really does not have much support within industry except from Aamir. 🙂

            (Not saying Kangana is right or wrong, talented or not. Aamir’s support for her is also at an ideological level – not necessarily that he believes that Manikarnika will turn out to be great.)

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          • Agree! I like Kangana ideologically. Give her more power but her screws are looser than Trump’s!

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          • Aamir like everyone wasn’t as matured when he was young. So nothing to be surprised. But glad he didn’t do Darr. SRK probably hammed but there is a cunningness and arrogance in his persona that did benefit that role. And Aamir became Aamir by NOT doing ‘bade’ producers ki ‘chaplusi’. I don’t think he would have done a Sarfarosh or Lagaan or DCH if he was doing movies like DDLJ and DTPH. That was a path for quick and easy success. Not taking anything away from SRK, but I have told before SRK forgot to grow as an actor because he reached the peak too soon and Aamir kept growing and probably still is.

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          • Great comment Coolguy!

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        • If Aamir had done Darr and DDLJ YRF would have been bigger than what they are today. Yash Chopra put his money on the wrong horse.

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  8. aamirsaurabh Says:

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  9. https://indianexpress.com/article/entertainment/bollywood/amitabh-bachchan-on-working-with-aamir-khan-in-thugs-of-hindostan-5376927/

    Do read this report fully to understand how Amitabh did an action adventure film at age 74-75. Hats off to this veteran star for his dedication and sense of youthful fun. I want to see a Thugs of H for him and Aamir, as also the girls. Have loved Katrina in three films( Ek Tha T, Dhoom 3 and Tiger ZH). Liked Fatima in Dangal.And Aamir , of course.

    But irritated to find the Aamir hate brigade terming his Thugs act as irritating,annoying, what have you. Aamir’s character actually comes across charming and funny — for all normal movie fans. He is the guy and Katrina the girl, bringing in the light fun quotient to what looks like a paisa vasool pop corn entertainer. Not deep like my favourite Dangal maybe — but ok, even so.

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    • I don’t think it’s complete hatred. Most these people will watch it. And it’s also from what I see on some other less well intentioned blogs fan jealousy. The overall response has been pretty emphatic and this is a full blown commercial film – that’s the response seeked. VKA is still the spoil sport here but let’s see. The posters, trailer have done the job.

      Also it’s not just because Aamir is here. Big B is too, this is a nightmare for a few, just from my experience on being on blogs for 10+ years. A trip down memory lane on NG right now would be quite fun!

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  10. Aamir Ali, the protagonist of thugs of Confession was based on a real-life thuggee/criminal called ‘Feringhea’ who was hunted by the british. So it looks like ToH pays homage to the real-life guy by naming Aamir’s character as ‘Firangi’. Also here is a notice on how severely misrepresented the thugee culture was in british literature:

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    https://www.theguardian.com/books/2003/jan/18/featuresreviews.guardianreview19

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    A more severe misrepresentation of the east, however, was on its way and thuggee would play its part. In the 1820s, Captain William Sleeman had made the first discoveries of strangled travellers in shallow graves. Soon his rather dry reports were being sensationalised and exaggerated: from the reality of a disparate population of robbers emerged the myth of a sacrificing cult of murderers devoted to a bloodthirsty goddess. They were “The Thugs”. Quite early on, Feringhea was cast as their leader.

    Ameer Ali, the hero of the Confessions, was the perfect embodiment of how Europeans saw orientals. Attractive to women, he was also cruel, mendacious and lustful. It is fascinating to compare the real thug confessions collected by British officers in the field and those of this fictional anti-hero. In the former, mention is made of women infrequently, except to say they are not legitimate targets. Further up the information ladder, however, British officials record that thugs on the road “indulge in every carnal propensity”.

    In the real world, Feringhea, the supposed arch-fiend of thuggery, was pursued relentlessly by Sleeman, who rounded up his family and imprisoned them indefinitely (“scientific” thinking of the time sanctioned the idea of hereditary criminals, and in India entire families were locked up under the 1871 Criminal Tribes Act). Feringhea could not bear to be apart from his wife and children, so turned himself in, offering to confess in full. In Saugor jail he remained imperturbable, until told that his young nephew, Jharhu, had been hanged. The evil genius promptly burst into tears, berating Sleeman: “He never strangled or assisted in strangling any man!”

    Awkward facts these: Feringhea, the supposed monster, turns out to be a loving husband and father, torn by grief for an innocent nephew’s death. No matter, his legacy was not his own to choose. In a deviation from the original book, the 1988 Merchant Ivory film The Deceivers served up Feringhea once again, and once again as a sexually ambiguous panther who murders for a blood-crazed deity. Similar stuff inhabits Steven Spielberg ‘s Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom. A century and a half later and still no revision for Feringhea.

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  12. The often-cited story of how the thug Feringheea came to get his name is particularly revealing of the precarious nature of the local politics of Parihara. Feringheea’s uncle, Rae Sing, had refused to pay Rs 18,000 inarrears for the customs at Murnae that he owed the Maratha state and as a consequence Perron, commanding Sindhia’s army, despatched a regi-ment under one Blake Sahib to bring Rae Sing to submission.

    Rae Sing entrenched himself at Murnae but the village was attacked and burned and during the flight, Rae Sing’s sister-in-law gave birth to a boy who was named Feringheea after the feringis or ‘foreigners’ who had led the attack. According to another version, the event took place around 1800 when the French Colonel De Boigne and a Captain Bulust attacked Murnae because the zamindars of the village were rebelling against Sindhia …

    http://www.academia.edu/442159/Thuggee_Banditry_and_the_British_in_Early_Nineteenth-Century_India

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    • The main issue with this movie may be that they have made sea-warfare the highlight for the trailer. That was never the signature of Thuggees, even though its ok to show Amitabh the gangleader hijacking a company ship in retaliation to being hunted for the imperialists.

      But the complete focus on ships and sea has kind of made the name ‘thugs’ of hindostan completely irrelevant. There may be more in the film about ‘huggee’s real modus operandi of strangling road travelers … But with YRF you can always expect the most absurd.

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      • I dont mind a Disney version ala POTC, may actually prefer it to exaggerations of a blood-thirsty occult religious cult of Kaali devotees raping and killing brits for pleasure.

        In VKA’s imagination thugs may have exited only to fight for indian independence. That is as realistic as ddlj happening in my backdoor.

        But if they dont show a single scene of thugs strangling road travelers and looting them as normal criminal activities of that time … then its much beyond a Disney cartoon.

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        • I feel the thuggees will be whitewashed as they are fighting the british. There will not be strangling as the film should cater to family audience and kids. Blood and gore turns me off.

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  13. Baradwaj Rangan

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    Okay, I really enjoyed the #ThugsOfHindostanTrailer 🙂

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  14. aamirsaurabh Says:

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  15. aamirsaurabh Says:

    In a poll Aamir Khan ranked no.6 among Global celebs in China sorrounded by and above most of reputed hollywood celebs.Aamir’s stardom in China is really insane.TOH might not get a parallel release but it wld happen sooner and later.It’s inconsequential to even compare him with any Indian star as far as overseas or WW stardom is concerned coz his Chinese stardom is bigger than WW stardom of almost Indian biggies.

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  16. The overall reaction to the trailer seems to be quite mixed at least on social media with many people criticising it for Vfx and similarity with POTC. This doesn’t augur well for the film because the makers have done their bit to raise the expectations and presenting it as a ” Never seen before experience”. People were expecting something extraordinary after series of motion poster and the trailer has not matched up to those expectations. These sort of comments that Indian movies have limitations in Vfx won’t help much in the present scenario where most of the cinegoers are well versed with the Hollywood movies.Comparisons with hollywood are inevitable.

    I feel comparisons with BB2 are on wrong foot as far Vfx are concerned, that film had a precedent in BB1 as well as a captivating storyline to offset the poor Vfx .This won’t be the case here, the director doesn’t have a good track record and on the top of that if the Vfx are poor that will definitely affect the overall viewing experience.

    Overall I think this has definitely scaled down the prediction of many trade pundits.

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    • Better to be lowkey than overhype. No one can change destiny. Whatever has to happen will happen.

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    • Aamir would never show the entire film in a trailer even if he cuts a lengthy 3.5 min one. The focus here is on the action and the characters, but even then there is enough hints of a story. Narrative wont be a problem, this is not a D3.

      As for BO, the posters and trailer have done their job. The hindi version will open at 60 cr day one, 200 cr over 4-day weekend and 400-450 cr total. It may cross BB2’s 510 cr, or it may not depending on the film.

      The doubts are about the fates of tamil/telegu dubbed versions and China. Also, critics may question the authenticity of thuggee culture. This may turn out be as as gross a misrepresentation of thuggee history and culture as the brits sensationalized during their time here. But indian film critics are hardly well read themselves … just like indian audience have no clue about vfx.

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      • And I will say this for the last time. Aamir on his own can recreate a Ghajini moment (Ghajini like reception will take a film like TOH to 400-450 cr today). BUT he will not be able to recreate a 3I moment at BO without teaming up with either Hirani (3I sequel has been talked about) or Rajamouli (both want to make MB).

        Likewise, Hirani will not be able to recreate 3I numbers at BO without Aamir. Nor can Rajamouli deliver another BB2 moment at BO without teaming up with Aamir.

        And trust me when I say this, these three stalwarts are very well aware of this. They may be busy with respective projects and exchanging pleasantries with each other in public. But these team ups will happen sooner or later. I am willing to bet my money that both these collaborations will happen within next 5-6 years.

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        • Marcus, You are forgetting that Aamir has teamed up with Big B. And by the looks of the trailer, Big B is back to the glory of his angry young man days. So I wouldn’t put BB2 beyond ToH

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          • BB2 hindi (510 cr) is always within reach my friend. I was referring to BB2’s 1100 cr nett pan india business. I doubt if Rajamouli can recreate that without working with Aamir.

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  18. Dhoom 3 missed dialogue baazi, which ToH seems to have plenty of. Also comedy was missing in D3. Doesn’t seem so in TOH. Aamir while be double crossing the Brits, and there will be funny moments when he translates to completely change the meaning.

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  19. Watched the trailer on big screen, the Vfx look better compare to laptop/ tv/ mobile. Would like to mention the following things..
    – Most of the ship scenes shown in the trailer are shot in daylight , I think this would have worked better in dark, a bit more aesthetic.
    – The ships that they have constructed don’t look that good or may I say they don’t look of that era as far as India is concerned. I have reservation regarding the place of shoot too ie Malta , I think the look of the location is a bit out of order compare to Indian waters..at least it’s a bit difficult to relate.
    – The fight scenes involving the ships( collision, fighting etc. ) aren’t that grand, especially the last scenes .

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    • Written by Salman khan fan, you missed the smallest detail …

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    • Not too compelled to read individual views here. Even a Bobby Singh video is around like KRK giving negative or disappointing vibes. It really makes little difference, even extraordinary positive thoughts. Collective views are better and it’s just about November 8th and critics reviews. They’ll matter for sure. The collective of those that is. Then the real test at box office.

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      • ToH trailer is clocking quite some views at YT no matter what (and likes too). I was looking at BB2 numbers:

        Week 1 – 250 cr
        Week 2 – 140 cr
        Week 3 – 70 cr

        BB2 had no holiday advantage. ToH has extra one day in first week and it has the Diwali holiday period to boost collections. Expecting ATP to be as high as BB2. So it can definitely do up to 275 cr nett (hindi version) in 8 days first week. The follow through in week 2 and week 3 is question mark and will depend on the film. At this point I am expecting 400 cr in 3 open weeks … Lets see.

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        • This might shock Saket, but I will actually not be able to catch up with ToH in theaters till dec first week. Have some crazy sprints at work starting this week till nov end, so weekends will be crazy …

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          • How long are your scrum sprints?

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          • We usually do 2 weeks (1 week for dev and the next for testing and review/planning). But for this proj we decided 3 weeks (2+1 breakup) as its almost dev from scratch (we just completed prototyping). Trying this to avoid less hassles during verification phase. Lets see how it turns out.

            In my exp, dev cycles in india are more chaotic as HQ keeps ‘updating’ requirements …

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          • I am skipping TOH.

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          • You’ll have to spend less time here on one of those weekends. Problem solved, thank you!

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          • Forgot to mention, this is a response in jest. Not trying to make fun or anything…

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          • So what is your QA doing when you are developing? or your sprint and QA sprint are separate and they overlap?

            ps – Not to be intrusive. You may choose not to answer.

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          • shouldn’t agile sprint be able to handle changing requirements?

            btw, what is hq?

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          • Saket – i hv been in hyper excited mode this last few days as the prototype we were working on has turned out a success and is going into production. 😎 So i hv a reason for spamming this blog … its a major milestone for me as this was first time i hv the role of architect.

            Munna – our dev team here in blore is quite small, 2 testers and 5 developers including myself in our team (my time gets divided between design n coding, but still implementing a module with another guy who does the ui stuff. So our internal testers hv a rough time in the latter half of each sprint. Main QA happens in HQ after the dev cycle. For this proj its scheduled to start in jan.

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  20. wow – so many comments…
    TOH trailer, my 2 cents:

    1). Aamir’s trailers are always underwhelming and this one is slight on an exception side. But the no. of getups he himself has in trailer means a bigger suspense reg. his character is there in the film.
    2). Big B rocks with his dialog delivery – that baritone…..i m sure an astute aamir knows how to capitalize on Big B’s strength and he must have given lot of inputs to bring out the best of him.
    3). Aamir’s characters has chameleon like shades which any actor would die to do. No doubt, he is the hero of the film here.
    4). Katrina looks stunningly beautiful.
    5). I would have preferred DP instead of Fatima who is ok.
    6). BGM by Ajay-Atul is good and it is a good break for them after Sairat. They have an established production house backing them so they have arrived.
    7). BO-wise – this is 500+ deal and no matter what critics say (or do not say) – it is a done deal.
    8). I will be watching this FDFS.

    btw, Marcus-Munna – u guys are into sw dev? I am a tech. recruiter (and run my own executive search firm) – so pl. do let me know if u need some sw guys….recently i searched for devops, ror, java, dotnet and lot of other tech. professionals……

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  21. Shankar interview with Rajeev Masand. Around 1/3 of the $75 million budget of 2.0 has gone into Vfx. Despite that he says the Vfx shall be in middle range and wont be comparable to Hollywood. There are around 2100 Vfx shots in the movie, that means its a Vfx heavy film. He also says that a few hundred could have been spent more, but they had the budget constraint.

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  22. and toh has aamir in multiple getups, something he is fond of

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  23. ToH trailer has crossed 50m views and 1m likes in 3.5 days. No idea if this will correlate with BO collections.

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  24. I am very disappointed with trailer.

    USP of last 3 masala movie of Aamir is copied/inspired whatever

    TOH – PotC
    Dhoom 3 – Prestige
    Ghajini – Memento

    There is a scene in trailer which looks like is inspired from Gladiator trojan horse.

    Is it so difficult for him to come up with really original script for pure commercial movies when he does one movie in 2 years? Just with movie name “Thus” they can come with so many ideas.

    Surely, these movies will earn huge on box office, but most of the people like me became Aamir Khan fan because of movies like Lagaan, DCH, Sarfarosh.

    As of now it looks like Rajkumar Rao is selecting much better script , and I am becoming his fan more than Aamir.

    This is my comment after trailer of TOH, I hope movie doesn’t remind of any previous movies.

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    • IdeaUnique Says:

      assuming that all these 3 films are copied – still, can u pl. tell me how many % of Indian audience watch hollywood films? it is a fashion to run films down just becoz they are supposedly copies…..even if they are….let the majority of Indian audiences decide whether they want to see it or not….D3 was a crap film where I was thoroughly disappointed but what did paying audience do? made it a BB!!!

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      • I never saw D3, the only Aamir film I haven’t seen since… I don’t remember when. But always felt the Ghajini-Memento bit is unfair: apart from the central conceit of amnesia, there is nothing in common (even the wonderful metaphor of using the body as itself the medium for recording clues, is Ghajini), not in aim or style. Ghajini IMO is the best masala movie since Khakee, and a reminder of how terrific “massy” popular films can be. It’s wonderfully “staged” (in the sense of symbolism and symbolic terrain), and really makes the audience feel that sense of loss. Honestly no surprise it is a combo of Aamir and a Southern director — most in B’wood these days who make “big films” can’t get their head out of their ass long enough to make something like this.

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        • You need to watch D3, you’re missing out!

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        • IdeaUnique Says:

          yeah….I wud luv Sarfarosh 2 to be directed by Ghajini director….D3 had most bizarre slo-mo action sequences as if VKA thought that audience is dumb….ha ha ….can u imagine in a bond film, bond doing a slo-mo bike ride on a rope????? lol……here we have aamir going on a rope in a slo-mo with an entire team of police with guns just gaping at him :-)))))))) ha ha ha….that kind of slo-mo sequences killed the film for me….

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          • The Ghajini director would be a better bet for TOH. He got the big moments right in Ghajini, VKA made a mess in D3 of such moments but he couldn’t create those moments in the first place.

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          • Anyway I give VKA more chances here. This seems to have been treated much more like a project and a test screening took place that I believe Aditya Chopra did not allow for D3.

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          • the kid in dhoom 3 did a good job, better than the ott kid playing anjali in kkhh. going by the way vka handled the kid he is,a better director than kjo

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  25. aamirsaurabh Says:

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    • TZH trailer has 88M views with 1M likes at YRF YT channel. TOH trailer has same number of likes with 47M views already. Sanju trailer has 0.9M likes from 66.5M views and Padmaavat trailer 0.56M likes from 57M views. No idea if these are genuine or not …

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  27. The D 3 stunt is impossible. So I was not bothered whether it is slow motion or not. Life of Pi shows the tiger with the boy like a rogue dog!

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    • Riding or driving on some of our roads is no less thrilling experience! In D4 they can show the hero or villain riding a bike through these streets and make viewers gasp with wonder! Potholes, stray dogs, cows and jaywalkers all pose challenges! Yes, we can also park ships during monsoons!

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  28. does aamir name in thugs firangi have any correlation to the intolerance comments a few years back?

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  31. aamirsaurabh Says:

    3 Idiots in today’s times wld have smashed Dangal WW by a margin.China alone cld have done 400M$ atleast.It cld have smashed Dangal WW by 100% atleast.3I is India’s biggest Global film.

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  32. 50 m views crossed by thugs

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  34. Thugs of Hindostan: Aamir Khan will groove both ladies, Katrina Kaif and Fatima Sana Shaikh

    ByBollywood Hungama News NetworkOct 3, 2018 – 5:06 pm IST

    Fatima Sana Shaikh and Aamir Khan are coming together in a completely different role after their last film Dangal in Thugs Of Hindostan. This will also see the superstar Khan reuniting with his Dhoom co-star Katrina Kaif. The trailer and the posters of the film indicate that Katrina Kaif will be a dancer in this period action adventure drama. However, did you know that the biggest dance number of the film will also feature the other actors too?

    Recent reports have suggested that Katrina Kaif, who will be having her share of dance numbers, will also be shooting for another number with Firangi aka Aamir Khan. The duo will be joined by Fatima Sana Shaikh. Sources in these reports have stated that Katrina will also be having solo dance numbers in Thugs Of Hindostan. But, there is one grand number which will feature the other important actors of the film sans Amitabh Bachchan. The actors are expected to groove to a type of dance, which is being termed as jungle dance.

    The same source has also further stated in reports that the song has been shot amidst a grand set. It is expected to feature the actors doing a tribal dance that hasn’t been explored in Hindi cinema before. These reports also have it that the actors had to undergo extensive prep and rehearsals for shooting the said dance number. It seems that the makers were keen on having this song mainly because it suited well with the period theme of the film which is set in the 18th century.

    Another intriguing fact about this song is that it is expected to feature during one of major turning point in the film. Also, the said source has asserted that Aamir Khan, Katrina Kaif and Fatima have apparently nailed the act.

    Directed by Vijay Krishna Acharya, Thugs Of Hindostan is extensively shot in Malta and is expected to release on November 8 during Diwali.

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  36. A similar tug-o-war seems to be on between the two leading men in Vijay Krishna Acharya’s Thugs Of Hindostan as to who gets to die at the end. According to sources, the big fight between Aamir Khan and Amitabh Bachchan at the plot’s climax, ends with one of them dying. It is yet to be decided who.

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  37. SCOOP: Aamir Khan and Amitabh Bachchan’s BIG WAR over death scene in THUGS OF HINDOSTAN?

    ByBollywood Hungama News NetworkOct 4, 2018 – 10:35 am IST

    Amitabh Bachchan is not new to battles over death sequences. When he was shooting for Hrishikesh Mukherjee’s Namak Haraam 44 years ago, there was a huge tussle with his co-star Rajesh Khanna as to who gets to die at the end. Hrishida, cunning man that he was, didn’t tell them. Instead, on the day the death scene was to be shot, he placed a garlanded picture of Rajesh Khanna on the set.

    A similar tug-o-war seems to be on between the two leading men in Vijay Krishna Acharya’s Thugs Of Hindostan as to who gets to die at the end. According to sources, the big fight between Aamir Khan and Amitabh Bachchan at the plot’s climax, ends with one of them dying. It is yet to be decided who.

    Says a source, “Everyone knows in Hindi cinema the hero’s death makes it all the more heroic. Both, Amitabh Bachchan and Aamir Khan are keen to exit the script with a mortal flourish. It remains to be seen who gets this honour.”

    http://www.bollywoodhungama.com/news/bollywood/scoop-aamir-khan-amitabh-bachchans-big-war-death-scene-thugs-hindostan/

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    • Let’s hope the sword richochets off Aamir and collides with Big B before stabbing Katrina Kaif to death!

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      • Its pretty easy to guess. Bachchan will die and Aamir will take up the mantle of Azad with room for a sequel in future.

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        • Ordinarily you would put money on the guy who says “agar azaadi hai gunaah, to manzoor hai sazaa” dying at the end. These guys must really have Kranti on the brain if they are NOT planning on doing that…

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          • Ideally, Bachchan’s death should spark the brit mole to become the next ‘Azaad’. Read somewhere that Bachchan’s character may be from royal background and to avenge himself he turns the prevalent thuggee criminals into an independence seeking group.

            I think we can expect a great note from Satyam and yourself on how its a reflection of passing the mantle of ‘rebel’ in the hindi film industry (although personally I find a huge gap between an onscreen ‘image’ and a real rebel in one’s work ethics and culture).

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          • Certainly there is often that gap — some do worse than others

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  38. I would like generally that Aamir would only work on his own productions….
    Well, this is YRF, whose strength are mass suitability, costumes and scenery. Insofar as expected. I will forgive a bit, because here a dream for Aamir comes true. First Amitabh. Second it’s a real action adventure, it doesn’t happen every day. That’s what I thought when I saw the ships on Malta, it felt like a dream, very impressive (even more as the trailer shows)…

    Good:
    I had feared it would be very dark and bloody. But although there is a lot of violence, the film is surprisingly bright. I am very happy about that!

    Aamir is cute and very attractive (in the funny part, but almost more at the end than he drops the curtain). He can really let off steam when it comes to acting and different shadows and looks, he’ll love it and I love it too. And he can also show strength and action, what more does the audience want? Ingenious role! It’s worth watching him alone.

    I also didn’t expect so much humor. And not such a quirky character of Aamir, although it was hinted at Malta. When I was there was much action and an important long (rather serious) scene, both can be seen late in the movie.

    I also like that not too much was betrayed. I don’t associate YRF with deep contents, but there seems to be enough for a good movie.

    BGM is fantastic! Alone for the ear the film is a pleasure! It gets stuck in the ear. Powerful! Loved also the transition when Aamir appears in the trailer and it becomes light and airy mit irischen Klängen.

    Songs seem to fit well, better than feared after the leaked images. And they are funny!

    Amitabh is amazing. Again Katrina as in Dhoom, but I liked her and she has nice scenes with Aamir.

    Less good:
    I don’t like flying people – because it seems unnatural.

    VFX is good for the budget, but might need some editing. They had beautiful real ships, but they look in the trailer like generated on the PC most of the parts. The last scene is a particular pity. The real ship was destroyed and filmed with a drone, but it looks animated!
    Interesting: I saw the trailer on big screen. VFX and the whole trailer was clearly better than on the PC (for whatever reason)! That makes me hope for the big screen and IMAX.

    Fatima looks dogged and I hope she can shows other facets in the movie.

    Result:
    That’s not Dangal or SeSu or another AKP, but I didn’t expect that either.
    It is rousing, exciting and new (POC comparison is ridiculous).
    For me between good and very good. 4/5.

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    • Corr: ….and it becomes light and airy with irish sounds.

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    • “That’s not Dangal or SeSu or another AKP, but I didn’t expect that either. It is rousing, exciting and new (POC comparison is ridiculous). For me between good and very good. 4/5.”

      Agreed Tom, on all counts.

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  40. Someone plz bump up this thread – here is making part 2.

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  41. #Metoo has definitely affected TOH. Less than a month to go and there is very little noise from the team

    Have a feeling that they will skip all media interactions for the next two weeks atleast

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    • Aamir gives his promotional interviews way ahead of time. The media has been asked to release them at specific points of time as usual.

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  42. tonymontana Says:

    yawn! what a bore

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  43. I wonder if this will affect Mogul directed by Subhash Kapoor.

    http://www.bollywoodhungama.com/news/features/super-30-hrithik-roshan-caught-wrong-foot-regards-vikas-bahl/

    For instance, director Subhash Kapoor was seen admitting on video that he molested actress Geetika Tyagi. Yet, he went on to bag Guddu Rangeela and even a 100-crore-grosser Jolly LLB 2, starring superstar Akshay Kumar.

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  44. destroying the ships

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  46. tonymontana Says:

    all of a sudden ive lost interest in the film. when there are smaller films like andhadhun and tumbbad coming up with better storylines, why do we have to wait for something like this that gives its predictable storyline away ni the trailer itself?

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  47. tonymontana Says:

    Aamir is what you’d get if jack sparrow and fatima sana sheikh’s son would grow up in india.

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  48. [added to post]

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  49. It is a funny song with goofy dancing by the two As.
    Who will be afraid of these thugs?

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  50. The video looks great, it has some zany dancing as well, but they needed a better song than this.

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  51. Amit Pandey Says:

    @satyam : why TOH is under ”the ugly” section….

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  52. Very minimal promotions; very short clip of a song with good beat. But it does not tell us much. Promotions have possibly been affected by MeToo movement. Just over three weeks to go for release. Still, enough. If content is worthwhile, film will do well. I hope it does. I want all naysayers on social media to eat their words.

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  53. The video is made good by Amitabh Bachchan. His dominating screen presence is evident here and he is overshadowing everyone.

    This is Big B’s film now from whatever i have seen and this could be the best thing to have happened.

    Song is ordinary.

    ToH will not cross PK and may be second highest grossing film of 2018.

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    • always enjoy it when people suddenly discover Amitabh Bachchan after all these years! The fact that these films also have some other stars are I suppose incidental details! I don’t disagree he looks great here but who’s surprised?! I wasn’t in Khakee either!

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      • Yes, agree on Khakhee.

        Given a good role, he still outperforms over all stars and this is no discovery as you put it to claim a surprise.

        I know you tried to be sarcastic because ToH has Aamir. But even if any other star had been there, my response would be same.

        My opinion is primarily based on the 1st trailer and 1st song. The movie might have different dimension. That’s why i said ‘on whatever i have seen”

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        • Small mercy that u dont see much!

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        • In this song Aamir is certainly better than Big B and have much better expressions.

          In trailer Bib B seems to overshadowing just because he have given proper action sequence.

          This has now become Big B movie …. Wtf!!!

          If same logic is applied on Akshay kumar’s comedy movies … those movies actually belong to Paresh Rawal, Rajpal Yadav and Govinda.

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  54. No idea how this movie will turn out to be, but Aamir seems to be having a lot of fun in this role. Last time he had such uninhibited fun on screen was perhaps in RDB. His acting in Hirani films has been quite pretentious to say the least.

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    • Hirani is an ace director and is beyond anything that is brilliant in Bollywood.
      Here Amitabh seems to have helped the movie a lot.
      I remember a pic where he was giving his inputs on direction to Acharya and acting to Aamir.
      All three were sitting on a couch.

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      • Yeah…right.😏Have it your way, dismissing Aamir against Amitabh.

        This is a film that will be watched with interest by fans of Amitabh, Aamir, Katrina and Fatima.

        Amitabh is this veteran 76 year old, giving it all he has.He has done action, dance, all the masala stuff, plus there’s his acting chops and baritone voice.Not to forget — literally towering personality.

        Aamir is Aamir. We await his films because he has always delivered, to a lesser or greater degree. He is the star that drives TOH, no doubt about it. He may look small in front of the towering Amitabh, but he is going to lighten the scene every time he appears. He would have his dark scenes too, the surprises not revealed. He is also, as always, the man behind the scenes, steering the film ahead. He has always had the pregogative to sit in on the final edit.Has demanded and got it.

        Katrina has her fans and I am one of them. In her limited way,she manages to brighten up the proceedings. I preferred her to all others in Tiger Zinda Hai. Loved her in that scene where she herds the besieged nurses out.

        Fatima will be doing something different from Dangal, should be good to watch.

        The background music seems another big star of the film, along with cinematography.

        So, unless it is really bad, this TOH ship should sail through to perhaps rs 400 crores. Fingers crossed.

        Afterthought : Why do I get the feeling that Amitabh is not enamoured of Aamir and the latter has been trying to butter up the veteran through his public words, lately? I could be wrong, but I get this feeling…

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        • Please do not misunderstand. I am not dismissing Aamir against Amitabh.

          I think this is a Khakhee kind of film where Aamir is in extended but less powerful role of Akshay Kumar.

          I am a bit disappointed with the british villain. One needed a great actor. They could have hired Clint Eastwood or somebody similar.

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        • Agreed about British villain. In the trailer he comes across as a caricature.

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          • IdeaUnique Says:

            he he @LS, this is an Aamir Khan film and Big B will be appreciated of-course but BO draw is AK. It is AK’s product-marketing-sense and a genuine respect for Big B that the later is given equal or even more space in promotions. That is how a true and secure Superstar should behave. Big B is above any comparison and I am happy that he is getting tremendous space in promotions here.

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          • I caught up with these newer teasers after a few days away…I must say the Suraiyya video does seem like good fun, a bunch of masala registers are being touched upon in this sort of song (again and again I am reminded of Kranti, that’s the mode here, or I should say that with a YRF/Acharya film that SHOULD be the mode, because they aren’t going to be able to execute much else). The one question mark is that the truly epic mode requires some genuine loss, some tragedy, some blood and sweat — stated differently, there is no masala without some cost, something at stake — and the contemporary trend is for “lighter” stuff that can be consumed amenably, that goes down easily without too many burps (Hirani’s massy films are a good contemporary example).

            I have not caught up with all the comments in this thread, but as a general matter, a lot of the outrage over ToH seems insincere — because much worse (in terms of misogyny, bigotry, and just outright silliness) has been ignored or defended to death where other stars’ films are concerned. Of course a number of people have more principled objections, but that isn’t the case with a lot of folks…

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          • Agree I always find it funny when certain stars are ‘punching’ bags one day and the next day held to the highest level of criticism possible.

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  55. I simply don’t expect good songs these days! This is typical of big films. Only the video saves this to some extent. TOH needs to up its game and pronto otherwise it may turn out to be an absolute wasted opportunity. A big box office opening will mean nothing unless it’s at least a decent watch.

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    • “A big box office opening will mean nothing unless it’s at least a decent watch.”

      This will be definitely more than a decent watch, else it will be a disaster. But i am 100% confident now. Movie will be a HIT.

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  56. This is a good song with a very good video.Will be a treat to watch this in theatres. People here are overreacting in the same way they reacted on trailer over Vfx( Majority of the film has been shot on real locations , even the ships are real)

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    • You think vfx is not needed because the ships were real??

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      • I am not saying that , there may not be many Vfx shots in the film, people were ridiculing it for poor Vfx , in reality there are only a few Vfx scenes at least in the trailer.The visuals of the film is an altogether different discussion but calling it cartoonish isn’t correct.

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  57. Watched the song in Telugu. It actually sounds quite good. A longer clip would have given us a real idea of the song. But it is growing on me

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  58. There is a wonderfull folksy beat to the song Vashmalle — thanks to the Maharashtrian rural sensibilities of Ajay-Atul . Heard the complete song, and just now watched the making. Great video, this making. Now I am a little more confident about this film, made so earnestly.

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  59. The song promo has really been a let down. Get prepared for this film to do badly!

    Ship’s ahoy!

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    • Telugu version sounds much better than Hindi!!

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    • Agreed. Aamir is the only contemporary Hindi film actor who can tempt me to watch a Bollywood film in a theater, but I have to say that so far, I’m not feeling too keen about TOH. I mean, he had a once in a career/lifetime opportunity to act with Amitabh Bachchan and THIS is what he opted for?! Oy Vey.

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      • Well I give it chances purely as Aamir is involved and hope it works. But I am a little worried, the trailer was fine IMO possibly could have held back on it. #metoo has taken over a bit.

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    • Remember the film Jhoom Barabar Jhoom? The songs were a huge hit, the film that followed — an absolute bore fest.

      I don’t understand the negative reception to TOH promos. The film has the look of an entertainer. May not be high cinema , most likely to get critically panned. But I find Aamir ‘s role interesting and fun. Amitabh , Fatima seem to have more serious dramatic roles. Aamir- Kat Too should get laughs.

      Bharosa hai.

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      • I have nothing yet to see that I thoroughly dislike. It looks an all out entertainer and pretty fun IMO. Aamir’s doing something fun finally and Big B is a towering presence as usual. I would have liked something a bit more darker and mysterious but you can’t get it all. All in all it’s done the job thus far.

        My subsequent comments on the Big B/Aamir song have been more positive. Early reaction was a little presumptuous.

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        • The darkness is there. One of them dies at the hands of the other and preceding it there maybe many dark scenes. They dont want to disclose much.

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          • He maybe the dark knight joker type here. A mishmash of hollywood characters are coming to my mind. But I will wait for the ultimate product. If Shriram Raghavan had directed TOH, Bachchan would have been the villain along with Fatima SS.

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        • yes there’s nothing to complain about so far. I do agree with you in this sense as well. This could have been more of a narrative-oriented film. It still wouldn’t have to compromise on all these fun moments at all. Maybe it will still be this but I am not too hopeful on this score.

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      • It will ultimately be Aamir’s film. Bachchan obviously has a very important part and he’s been front and center in the advertising as well. Nonetheless this isn’t a parallel deal in any sense. Unless I am very wrong about this. But yes he clearly has enough here, and on his terrain, where no one who’s there to watch him will be disappointed. But the film ultimately will be Aamir’s as a narrative matter. As for Bachchan taking films away from other stars given enough of a chance this is hardly news this late in the day. Even in films which had an imbalance in some sense and which weren’t natural terrain for him he proved just this (mohabbatein or K3G). Do think though this might be Aamir’s most enjoyable flamboyant part since Rangeela. I’ve generally not found him as convincing doing this sort of thing in the past but like him in the trailers here.

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        • I could be wrong but Aamir’s kind of entered the lion’s den so to speak here. Bachchan with the SRK films was kind of on SRK’s home patch, so Bachchan was playing away and did really well especially in Mohabbatein IMO.

          Here it feels like a neutral ground but Bachchan’s got tons of experience from Shakespeare, to Eklavya to Bhootnath and everything pre Aamir. Aamir’s done well enough here and whomever made the comment that Bachchan’s upped his game due to Aamir has got it the wrong way round… Aamir had to look good here otherwise the film would be a disaster (still could be…). Aamir’s upped his game and he’s having a ball. His antics against Bachchan’s stately behaviour will probably provide a lot of humour in the film. And Aamir could have cashed in on the Bachchan combination years ago but maybe he was waiting for a role for himself where he could be a loof or goof to equalise. He can get away with a lot in a role like this – be a hero and villain at same time.

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  60. tonymontana Says:

    2 years in the news already
    Fans eager to watch it since the beginning of time
    fans go crazy after the first look poster
    and what do we get?
    two iconic stars doing chutiyapanti on screen

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    • True, the effect of Amitabh’s majestic intro from the first teaser, and further accentuated by the baritoned dialogues onwards through the trailor, gets absolutely diluted with this ridiculous dance number.
      Wudve preferred for him to remain in his serious dominant avatar throughout. I dont recall Dilip dancing away in any frame of Kranti. Manoj ensured that Dilip’s gravitas remained intact throughout, and it added huge heft to the character.
      Anyway, lets hope for the best.

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      • Couple weeks back, there were many here putting down Kranti, mostly because most of them were not born when Kranti had released or were not mature enough to understand cinema when Kranti had released.

        So far (from teaser, trailer, song), we’ve seen nothing that is better than Kranti, not songs, not acting, etc… Heck, even the ship scenes looks better and authentic in Kranti than TOH.

        Of course, there’s no doubt that TOH will probably get to 500 crore or whatever number one wants to use, but so far, I’ve seen nothing that makes me want to run to the theater.

        “Manoj ensured that Dilip’s gravitas remained intact throughout”

        More than Manoj Kumar, it’s Salim-Javed. Their story book was so sound that they even had how a side character with 2 minutes role should be on screen. There’s an interview of Ramesh Sippy where he stated that Salim-Javed even had in script how Asrani should walk in Sholay.

        I think there’s a lot about TOH which is being kept under wrap.

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        • Nothing remotely laughable about the posters, trailers or songs or acting/dancing (unlike Kranti the laugh-riot). Vfx is a an issue but as i said before indian audience is quite ignorant of ‘technicalities’.

          Bachchan fans may be saddened to see Amitabh dancing like this, but he has done a lot worse in his life. As for Aamir, he is playing an official chutiya role with pride and everything shown so far is in line with his character.

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  61. 500 cr or not – is the Shakesperean question for ToH …

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  62. This is a catchy song…

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  63. Love all MO-Clips (more then the trailer) and of course the song in which two not quite young gentlemen are in a party mood and silly. It’s a fun-loving song with a pounding rhythm, funny pictures and a crazy choreo that will be a lot of fun on the big screen (I’ll be able to see the movie in Europe on IMAX).

    All in all, they hold back a lot. According to Pathe Arena in Amsterdam the movie has 185 minutes. There will definitely be surprises and I’m looking forward to them more than I would have thought a few months ago. It will be a huge adventure in the cinema and it will be a lot of fun, that’s my gut feeling.

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  64. P.K Talli Says:

    Wasted the potential chartbuster , should have released the full song .

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  65. IdeaUnique Says:

    TOH is in a safe territory becoz of aamir’s association with it – otherwise many big-budget films off-late have bombed (Rajnikant, Kamal Hassan, couple of Sallu’s films have bombed despite of gargantuan expectations). Also the holiday period will make it rush past 300 – can u believe a crap-fest like HNY did 40 cr on first day becoz of holidays?????? phew!

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  66. I prefer Sunidhi Chauhan for this song.

    But where is Fatima who is supposed to be the central character?

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    • I will admit Shreya’s not the best choice for a peppy fast paced song but occasionally she’s quite good. I like Latoo from Ghajini, she sounds good there in an otherwise average song.

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  67. Again don’t like the new song much but the video seems like a lot of fun. Meanwhile the Vashmalle song has grown a bit on me. Still like the video more than the song so far.

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  68. Amitabh, if given equal footage, will eat up anyone in terms of performance and impact on the film. However, I do not think at all he gets this kind of deal here. But maybe, he gets enough footage to leave a lasting impact on the film.

    From the trailers, it seems he gets a grand entry scene with that fight scene on the ship, running riots against the British Raj. From then on, I guess it will be all Aamir. The latter will entertain, dance, romance the ladies, fool and con everyone. This is a YRF production and they are no fools. It is a film primarily made for maximum financial gain. And Aamir is the basis to achieve that.

    But Bachan’s character will remain important and pivotal right until the confrontation in the climax.

    I feel Bachan will appear in sporadic moments and these will be the strong and poignant moments of the film. If there are enough of these, it may take the film to a higher level.

    But, if given decent footage, Bachan can steal the thunder from everyone.

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    • I think a film can accommodate both stars without anyone eating the other! Piku is an example.
      Further one should consider the age gaps which will not permit certain things for either of them.
      Cant we enjoy a film without belittling the contribution of a star?
      Shakti had two superstars, Anand had two, Sholay had more and Amjad Khan walked away with more applause. That was beginner’s luck for him and afterwards he could never equal that.

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  69. Ideally things should happen as what you said. Unfortunately, we all know that this doesn’t happen in Bollywood. It is there always about who takes bigger credit for a film’s success.

    Sure, Aamir has shown in the past in films like RDB or 3 Idiots that for the good of the script, he wouldn’t hog all the limelight. But it is not similar here. In those films the co-actors were not stars and there were no risks that any of them would end up getting all the plaudits.

    Here, it is a casting coup and both characters are in confrontation. So, there are bound to be comparisons. These have already began even here when we look at the different threads on the film.

    Piku is the worst example one could bring up here. We all know Deepika had the longer role but then she suddenly felt insecure when Bachan was getting more praise than her for his performance. As a result, she opted to boycott Bachan at the film’s success bash.

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  70. I think in PK Sanjay Dutt had quite a big part but due to his jail term it was cut off. In that way Aamir is not insecure to face bigger stars. He is bothered about BO success more. And he faced Naseer in Sarfarosh.

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  71. Bob Cristo Says:

    If watching Aamir in Suraiya song not cringeworthy don’t know what is ? Oh for that Aamir fanatic has a fancy line “Aamir is having fun”. Watch Film ‘MANN. song with Aamir and Rani. Nothing changed.

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    • I guess you’ll be having an upsetting week around Nov 9..

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    • Bob, chill madi…the only cringeworthy part was her attempt to speak in Urdu in the beginning. But she makes it up with those moves. This song’s gonna spread like wildfire. Kya zabardast aag laga daali bhai. Ppl will be counting the hours to Diwali from now on.. lol

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    • The Mann song was fun, with two young stars dancing away on a ship. Nothing cringeworthy there.

      In this Suraiyya Jaan song, Aamir is playing a character who is a spoof. Here he is dressed outrageously in blonde wig, like a Brit Firangi, trying to woo in his own mad way, the Indian beauty the Brits are lusting for. So he decides to out-lust them all.It’s a crazy- funny song, meant to be taken as such. What is so cringeworthy? Even on fb, some TOH critics( plentily available on social media, now even more righteously outraged after DNA website outed YRF’s letter to exhibitors)— many of these armchair critics of a yet to be released film are frothing away about a ‘cheap’ song. Why not try and understand the song’s context? It is not just an item number, obviously, but part of the story line.

      Like a friend wrote on twitter — TOH looks like a ripping good yarn. Why so much outrage?

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    • Amit Pandey Says:

      wish we had ‘dislike’ button too here…

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    • The slit ghagra and tight choli were scandalous for those times, especially for adolescent boys!
      And the lecherous looks of Tom Alter have been etched in memory since childhood…

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  72. I like this song.

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  73. In UAE, advance booking has begun for TOH and runtime is shown as 190 minutes!!

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  75. Bob Cristo Says:

    “The Mann song was fun, with two young stars dancing away on a ship. Nothing cringeworthy there”

    The bar should be same for every one. My main problem is that when Aamir is doing it. Oh he is having fun. When other actor do it. They are overacting or making monkey face.

    As far as this song goes. It is not 1/10 of Kamli song (If YRF thinks that). After this song is out i am seeing many Aamir fans in this thread that their expectation has been lowerd. Earlier they were talking about 500 cr now they are feeling nervous. Lets see.

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    • Aamir does this once in 3-4 movies, other actor do one good movies in 3-4 movies.

      Even then these kind of movies are least appreciated by Aamir fans

      Ghajini(2008), Dhoom 3(2013), TOH(2018)

      He is doing this kind of thing once in 5 year,

      While of SRK we get CE< HNY, Dilwale .. one after another
      For Salman we get Bodyguard, Ek tha Tiger, Dabangg 2 … one after another.

      What most people are saying that for Aamir once in a while it is fine, we don't want him to focus majorly on mass entertainers.

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    • No one is nervous about toh except trolls and some bob cristo. 400 cr is going to happen and [edited]. For 500 cr to happen, it is always a possibility but film will hv to b lot better than dhoom 3. Something more like at ghajini or fanaa level.

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  76. From whatever i have seen of Aamir in the trailers, songs etc…his role is for his fans after Fanaah. Earlier he would play to appeal to fans of all stars and that’s what separates him. His universal appealing role got him the biggest grossers aided by long gaps in releases and festivities associated with the timings.
    All these remain but for the role he is playing this time.
    This time ToH is for his fans.

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  77. I listened to the full song Suraiyya, a while back at gaana site. Loved it! The words, the music, the voice( are there two voices — must check). Plus of course the video. It’s a complete package. The song actually has a fifties air about it. And this old style Hindi song is combined with peppy western beat. Why on earth are people complaining about this song? There is so much of ignorance and pre conceuved bias on social media.

    Suraiyya jaaan laegi kya — the words and tune are running in my head.

    Aug 2005 — at home, one rainy afternoon, we listened to the music of Mangal Pandey, on our new speaker system. The music was fabulous. The words, ARR’s music, lyrics, the unique new voices — all combined to give a fabulous experience. Loved the music and liked the film a lot. Sadly, the music was not liked by our Indian public, including so called critics like Rajiv Vijaykar. The film too, did not work beyond initial days. It was panned and mocked by idiots like Shobha De and Raja Sen. But the late Roger Ebert and a few big names loved it.

    I am praying that TOH does not get the same fate as Mangal Pandey. TOH looks like a ripping good yarn, as A friend on twitter said. A funny adventure action drama.

    I have a feeling that many forces are there trying to bring down the film before its release.

    Hitchki is doing good business in China. Can’t help feeling that Chinese audience have more sense and sensibility with regard to films.

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    • When you’re at the top it will always happen. SRK and Salman have faced it. It’s really not going to have an impact, if the film works it won’t be stopped by some dozen tweets…

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      • What can be worse than what Raj Kapoor must have faced after Mera Naam Joker’s release and its tanking at the boxoffice?
        And Kagaz Ke phool debacle destroyed Gurudutt. Shaan debacle after Sholay. Aman for Rajendra Kumar.
        Hopefully TOH wont tank that way.

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        • There really is nothing to suggest TOH will tank. For that assumption, some reviews need to come out. Dislike of a couple of songs is hardly anything. And it’s not even a mass opinion!

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        • Shaan wasn’t a debacle. It just didn’t live up to the sky high expectations, post-Sholay. It was still one of Bachchan’s very grossers of that period. But yes, relative to scale, and again the post-Sholay thing, it was considered a disappointment. A number of Bachchan hits in that period had similar grosses but they weren’t comparable productions. On the other hand films like Naseeb and Lawaaris grossed significantly more. Film Information gave it the following rating:

          Shaan 1980 7,00,00,000 A*

          A is their semi-hit category. * denotes universal success.

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          • Shaan was not a disaster. But it was promoted like a worthy successor or more to Sholay. And Kubhushan Kharbhanda act did not do as much as Amjad’s. Relatively speaking Shaan did not meet Sippy’s expectations. I think he worked very hard for this film. Shaan is a very polished product and today it would have been a great blockbuster. It was like a hollywood movie with Indian touch.

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          • I’ve always loved Shaan. It’s one of those rarely Hindi films that remains ‘cool’ (like Qurbani). I’m also in a minority of one in terms of preferring Shakaal to Gabbar! Even as a film I like it more than Sholay (this will get me crucified!). Not saying this as a critical matter of course. Sholay is infinitely greater as a film. But Shaan is my personal favorite from the director’s work.

            On the rest following up on Sholay would always have been ‘impossible’.

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          • Kulbhushan Kharbhanda.

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        • Joker was of course a huge disaster. As was Kaagaz Ke Phool. As for Aman by this time Rajendra Kumar’s career was more or less finishing anyway. A number of his films didn’t work in that period.

          I think there’s an almost zero chance that ToH is the Joker sort of disappointment even in the worst case scenario. The Shaan kind of scenario is much more likely. Just off the initial it will get to a massive number even if it fizzles out completely relatively soon. If it’s completely hated right off the bat that’s a different thing but that’s very hard to believe. Not just this film. All the big disappointments (at that scale) over the last number of years nonetheless comfortably get to certain kinds of totals. A film like tubelight never got that start in the first place. And this is why they make films by the numbers where they could go in for a much better script. The latter is still a bit risky, relatively speaking. With the former even if most people find it enjoyable without really loving it that’s good enough for them.

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          • IdeaUnique Says:

            in this age, when craps like HNY or PRDP can do 40+ cr on 1st day, TOH will be massive on day 1 and by the time ppl start writing bad things about it – it would have had first 7-10 days total of 250+ to 300+ – so nothing of that kind will happen to TOH.
            Aamir with NaMo, Aamir on Femina cover, Aamir on KBC (He tweeted about shooting it), Aamir on Coffee with KJo – daily we will see this man and he will be all over the place by 8th Nov’18 – the promotions are so full-proof that ppl are bound to go to watch this at-least once for Aamir’s sake – so no chances of a BO dud here – absolutely none.

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    • Amit Pandey Says:

      both songs (vashmalle, surraiyya are growing on me) whole songs are in my repeat mode in youtube offline 😉
      @ LS agree with suriayya is running all day in my head too.. here shreya is having more fun than vishal 🙂

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  78. IdeaUnique Says:

    while Aamir does not need it – we have a historic BO occassion here in the form of TOH – when the Advance will start around 1st Nov – the frenzy would be too much to believe – I know groups, schools, corporates….eagerly awaiting the booking to open to book mass-slots….Diwali Vacation has TOH as the top-of-the-list-to-do-thing for many many kids (and hence parents will be dragged for this)…..a monster is coming on at the Indian BO

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  79. thecooldude Says:

    I am surprised that some folks still undermine Aamir here. Every holiday movie of his since starting with Ghajini has broken the all time record..I mean think about it. 5 freakin movies on Chrismtas….5 broken records on Christmas. I wasn’t sure about Dhoom 3’s final gross (the opening was in no doubt) because it just wasn’t a great movie by any means but even that made almost 300! There is not a chance in hell that this movie does not open in record territory and just bulldozes its way to at least 450 if not 500! Everyone associated with this movie has another moving coming up next year except for one person and that guy will make sure that it’s worth it for everyone.

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  83. Excellent trailer. In some ways the best one so far. Hits the right masala notes and the song has that crescendo quality to it as well. This preview makes me more bullish on the film than anything else I’ve seen so far.

    As for Katrina this is a classic example of the #metoo debate we’ve been having elsewhere. In every song she’s dressed like this!

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    • Katrina’s skin show is ridiculous — YRF has this periodic sleaze in them (Befikrey? Even the rain song in DDLJ, and some stuff in Muhabbatein), or perhaps that is mostly Aditya Chopra, but it is distractingly bad here — it doesn’t serve any purpose (ie it isn’t even an item song, it isn’t sending any particular message about sexiness, it’s like stripping for the sake of stripping). Crassness of the kind one can expect from these guys.

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      • Manoj Kumar would have happily used her in Kranti. The more things change…

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        • This film had a great opportunity to showcase some wonderful costumes — instead we get stuff ripped off from Game of Thrones (Bachchan’s look), the circus (Aamir’s look), and tinsely underwear as in this song. The wannabe nature of this visual aesthetic is in our face the whole time, with no sign of the eye for fabric, color, texture, and specificity of costume that characterises the best spectacles.

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          • Here I’ll disagree a bit. In the Desai masala tradition this sort of thing was very much par for the course. So in Dharam Veer you have Dharmendra dressed like a Roman gladiator while Jeetendra is attired like a more modern European prince. When you get to women it’s sometimes Arabian Nights wear, sometimes again a kind of Amazon woman look, sometimes the imaginary tribal Indian thing. In most of these cases there is still the reference to various Hollywood traditions. And here the films of the 70s in any owed a great deal to various Hollywood motifs or Hong Kong action genres and so on. For instance you get the Ben-Hur-like ‘anachronistic’ slave ship in Kranti. Or you have the colony of lepers (from the same movie) moment in Desh premee. Desai especially loved his Hollywood. You have a bit of the Towering Inferno in Naseeb. But I nonetheless agree with you in this sense. For all these influences or downright borrowing or even plagiarizations in an earlier period the final mix, the palette of the film if you will, was in every sense ‘Indian’. You couldn’t have confused Dharam Veer with any other extravaganza from any other industry despite all the borrowings from Hollywood’s Roman films or adventure romances. The world of those films was very ‘real’ where today it often seems synthetic or at least ‘designer’ (and here your point is on the money). But in a way this is contemporary Hollywood too. A film like Gladiator looks far more synthetic than any of the old classics set in Rome. And so on with other period dramas in contemporary Hollywood along these lines. Here there is a Shakespearean truth. If you take all these things too seriously and insist on a certain realism for a world which is so ‘escapist’ you get in a way synthetic ‘designer-wear’ reality. Desai hilariously mixes up everything in Dharam Veer and it seems completely natural to his world. In very much the same way the older Hollywood movies, otherwise far less realistic in every sense, were ultimately much more ‘real’ as movies. Or Shakespeare at that higher level also is completely unconcerned about such details. To repeat an example the CGI generated Rome of Gladiator is far more synthetic than the Rome which depends on actual set construction in the older films. In the very same way the CGI of the ships in Thugs makes them look far less real than the (probably) real ships of Kranti. If you go the Game of Thrones way you must get it right, otherwise it stands out. But to get back to your point I think a lot of the same was happening earlier in films too (costumes et al) but there was an ‘animating spirit’ behind those films, the creation of a world (for want of a better term), that was able to house all those elements much better and make them seem entirely ‘at home’ in that world than is usually the case today. There is of course a place for realism in a serious period piece, not as much so in escapist adventures or fantasy versions of history and the like.

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    • I agree with Satyam that the Manzoor-e-Khuda trailer clearly hits a lot of good buttons, especially if the song’s structure is similar to the trailer’s structure (action happening while the song is taking place, with the words of the song providing running commentary of sorts on that parallel action to the film’s audience (which is aware of both tracks), and before the song’s unwitting audience IN the film). There is a long tradition of such songs in Hindi films but one rarely sees this sort of thing anymore.

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      • Indeed the quasi-operatic situational masala song was such an important tradition..

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      • I’m actually seeing a kind of Ram Lakhan rehash here in a period setting.

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        • An unnecessary item song that’s quintessential of crapfest masala. From dancing helen to katrina – all in undies. So much progress in indian cinema.

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          • She is keeping the main villains engaged with her skin show while the heroes are fighting the enemies. I am reminded of Tridev song.

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          • Not sure what you’re expecting here Marcus. Something other than masala from a masala movie? Don’t think you should watch this one..

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          • Satyam,

            In old days you had the climax/finale song which were mostly filmed on the main heros or heroines of the film. And the dance and clothing for main heroine were nothing like the one you would see in middle of the movie that would be on someone like Helen or aruna irani.

            Here, you have Katrina dressed and dancing like Helen.

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          • yes true.. though this might not be the actual climax and more something crucial happening in the last stage of the film.

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          • This is hardly an item song, precisely because it does not aim to titillate. Sure, she has exposed, but unlike 100% of her own item songs (as well as those of everyone else), her moves are not at all vulgar. She is not busy shaking T&A here, and there isn’t an army of men lustily gesticulating all around.
            The lyrics and steps indicate a climatic event of sorts that has to occur.

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          • “This is hardly an item song, precisely because it does not aim to titillate”

            Ha.. if you say so..!

            I’m not saying this is the most titillating moment imaginable but the idea that she’s dressed like that and dancing like that just as part of the plot requirement is a bit hard to believe! Hey I love Kranti too but I didn’t think Parveen Babi needed to be dressed that way or that cat-fight was necessary (and so on..)! it doesn’t have to be an actual item number for the woman to be used for titillation. Masala did this all the time. Of course standards have changed. In those days there was the ‘vamp’ doing these songs, these days the actresses are themselves the ‘vamps’ (another sign of regression in the present). It’s not that I’m especially offended here or something but it’s a symptom of things. It is again a long-standing masala tradition to ‘find’ tribals or women from a fishing community and so on to then be paraded this way.

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          • “..dressed like that…”
            Oh cmon, lets not be sexist/misogynist here now.
            Your objection would be valid if we were anal about protecting the costume integrity for the period this is set in. Surely, women in 1800 did not dress like this in public. But, we can see that huge cinematic liberty has been taken for everyone’s costumes in this movie.
            If this were not a period movie, and she wore shorts and a sports-bra and was part of an energetic sporty song/dance, would you say she is doing an item song?
            Chikini Chameli, Munni badnam, Aao Haveli mein, etc and countless others are all explicit with ‘titillating’ moves as well as lyrics, and are rightfully panned as vulgar item songs.
            This does not at all qualify to be one.

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          • “lets not be sexist/misogynist here now.”

            It’s exactly the opposite! As for your other examples you’re placing he bar far too low. Just because those are even worse doesn’t mean this one gets a pass. And again I’m not suddenly being a prude about this. I’ve just stated that Hindi cinema has had a long standing history of doing this with some being worse offenders than others. Even if I love Kranti Manoj Kumar went much further than usual. And once again the reason I brought up all of this was in the context of that longer comment from the #metoo thread (referenced it in the earlier comment). Again if top actresses (alright Katrina is very much off peak but still..) can be treated like ‘vamps’ they become that much more replaceable. It doesn’t matter who does this sort of part. You’d have to pay more to Deepika to do this (Katrina probably did the film for free, incidentally itself a problem when you make such an expensive film and find the woman to be most expendable in terms of her representation and her renumeration.. this last bit it also a long-standing tradition) but she’d still be doing the same stuff. It’s hard for anyone to refuse a film of this scale.

            Now getting back to the song it’s not as if there’s one audience that watches those other item numbers you’ve mentioned and this Thugs song as well and then another one [audience] with more ‘taste’ that only watches the latter and totally shuns the former. C’mon! it’s the same audience. All of us! The representation of the woman in all of these songs is very comparable, one might be worse than another but it’s very much along the same spectrum. Even if one song is ‘situationally’ part of the narrative in more important ways this hardly excuses the rest. Much as in Kranti everything was required by the ‘script’ and yet no one had to be dressed that way!

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          • I’d also add here that it is a measure of the extent to which we are now all conditioned in these traditions that we don’t even find a dance (or lyrics or costumes) particularly odd unless it goes out of its way to be vulgar. Madhuri mastered the art (the only actress I can think of in this context) of making even such moments utterly non-vulgar, in a way she ‘domesticated’ such titillation and made it seem non-sexual (at least to the extent she did). But nonetheless her dances still belonged to that same spectrum. Dhak dhak karne laga most obviously perhaps.

            By the way I would agree that the Katrina moments of Thugs are not as remarkable as some of the stuff the women were doing in Kranti (relative to that age). But still for a top actress to be literally reduced to this is a bit unfortunate.

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    • Agree, best trailer for this film so far. Good thing they didn’t have aamir dancing like a clown with Katrina.

      This is old fashioned masala. A climax song while hero is fighting or song before the climax fight.

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      • Aamir clowned around with Katrina in Suraiyya because it was more of a comic dance routine. I am sure Aamir himself has enough sense to understand where he can clown around and where he should not.

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        • True. Actually that clowning made Suraiyya much more interesting. Otherwise it was one more colorless item song from Katrina. Mass manufactured.

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        • IdeaUnique Says:

          zoobi-doobi – he clowned so many times – in that one song – u can see aamir in a zillion avataars!

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          • I love Zoobi Doobi for the song as well as the hilarious tv character cameos by Aamir, infused into the song sequence. It is a charming song. Suraiyya Jaan too comes across as funny and intelligently worded.

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  84. This type of dance cant be done wearing a saree or salwar kameez!
    Her moves are not vulgar.

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    • on the other hand, I was totally turned off by her dance. Those shorts that she is wearing with thingie hanging in the front is such a put off, purane zamane kaa and Katrina looks very old and unsexy here. Those dance moves are eye sore. Agar item song he karna tha toh they could have taken someone better and younger.

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      • IdeaUnique Says:

        picture bhi to purane zamane ki hi he (18th century backdrop) 🙂 KK looks super-hot Swati and Suraiya is definitely going to take lot of “jaans” whether u and me like or not! KK is in the finest stage of her career with some mega-films with all-the-biggies of industry

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        • she looks like a marathon runner on her last leg. Completely exhausted and waiting for it all to get over and done with. Maybe you were looking only below neck. lol

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          • IdeaUnique Says:

            well u wrote it Swati: below neck 🙂 all normal men will do that and more! but she doesn’t look like anything else u’ve mentioned. She looks stunningly beautiful. 🙂

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  85. Thugs Of Hindostan Song Manzoor-E-Khuda: Katrina Kaif’s Dance Moves Are Not The Only Highlight
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    Manzoor-E-Khuda ends with a cliff-hanging moment of sword fight between Firangi and Khudabaksh

    The one-minute-long teaser is punctuated with glimpses of Amitabh Bachchan AKA Khudabaksh and his fauj of thugs fighting off the East India Company in a sea-battle of ships, swords and bombastic cannons! For a change, it also appears that Aamir Khan, who plays conman Firangi Mullah, is fighting for Khudabaksh’s army with utmost sincerity but surprisingly, Manzoor-E-Khuda also ends with a cliff-hanging moment of sword fight between Firangi and Khudabaksh with Amitabh Bachchan narrating the motto of the Thugs Of Hindostan – “Agaar azadi hai gunah, toh qubul hai sazaa. Ab toh hoga wohi, jo hai manzoor-e-khuda!” This rings a bell? Yes, we heard Khudabaksh echoing the same when the trailer released last month. The song also has glimpses of Khudabaksh’s second in command deadly archer Zafira, played by Fatima Sana Shaikh.

    You may expect the full version of Manzoor-E-Khuda ahead of the film’s release, unlike Suraiyya, for which the makers said the full song will only release with the movie. Meanwhile, here’s a glimpse of Manzoor-E-Khuda:

    https://www.ndtv.com/entertainment/thugs-of-hindostan-song-manzoor-e-khuda-katrina-kaifs-dance-moves-are-not-the-only-highlight-1940530

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    • IdeaUnique Says:

      honestly, the story matters little for this film – it is the extravaganza on the big screen for festive time – watch it and then take the call in 2nd week….

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  86. Absolutely loved BACHCHAN in the latest preview: And I mean ABSOLUTELY!! Thrilling to see him in this avatar!

    If this is the effect BACHCHAN can have on his fans inspite of KK parading around in her undie, imagine how he was in his peak in the masala films of Mehra, Desai, and Chopra!

    And no, I am neither 50 nor am I of a different sexual orientation..

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    • Satyam can add his view on this but i think in TOH, it’s being made with larger than life type of scenes for bachchan, where every scene has to be like the first entry of the hero (somewhat like south movies).

      In his peak time, at least i think it wasn’t like that. Just his presence made the scenes larger than life versus with TOH where it seems forced.

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      • yes this is part of what I’ve often called in the past treating Bachchan as ‘national monument’ or rendering him as a museum of his iconic gestures. In many of the older films the famed entry sequence would set things up this way (though even then it was truly larger than life later on, the unsurpassable such moment is in Coolie) and later on things would be normal. And these entry sequences were ‘grand’ without being ‘crazy’. I’ve always been wary and even critical of this move. Have said this many times on Bachchan’s blog as well. This is why I never liked the Sarkar character. It’s like ‘granite’. A kind of museum of gestures but not a real, breathing, human character. Unlike say the Khakee one. Bachchan then becomes not just a star repeating his signature (which stars in any case do beyond a point) but also this ‘historical mass’ no longer accessible simply as a character. For this one has to watch his other smaller films (though even here it is always about the great star constantly attempting the ‘different’). Because Bombay doesn’t really have a thriving masala tradition anymore (unlike the South) you cannot get directors who can use Bachchan by ‘thinking through’ his iconic image. They can only present it to the audience as an obvious, finished product. This whole thing is not too different from Bachchan repeating his greatest lines on stage. But this is not at all what his cinema was about, even in the one man industry 80s phase (though some of this logic had crept in by then). The key film in some ways for this entire move is Agneepath. Already at the time the film was very self-consciously ‘remaking’ Deewar. In grand operatic style of course. And not surprisingly and despite it’s less than great box office reception at the time it’s now commonly considered to be among his greatest films. It’s an interesting film at many levels and I certainly always admire Mukul Anand’s craft. And yet the ‘monument’ is already available in this film, for the very first time. Explicitly so. Something that wasn’t the case otherwise. Since then in every instance directors have attempted to place Bachchan in a masala context of any sort they’ve resorted to this easy kind of reference. Barring again Santoshi who’s old school enough to know the difference. Now of course Bachchan-as-monument is still enough to dwarf the competition but that’s too low a bar to set for him. This isn’t just about the directors, he himself as a performer is more or less doing the same. The problem is, he’s still so impressive physically it’s often hard to look beyond this and note what the performance really is about. But this is yet another reason why I have always insisted on the Bachchan of the 70s (most of all) and to some extent the 80s. Being larger than life when this is a result of the world the character occupies and/or is a gestural economy that is organically linked to the script is a very different matter from this sort of thing. Nonetheless what does please me about Thugs is the minority angle. Specially today I think this is potent in a wholly different way. And so much of the film (judging from the trailers seems to be soaked in this world). Now of course the thugs were supposed to be Muslims in the commonly understood sense of this history but again the film could have chosen a different community as well. And here Thugs seems to be (at least so far) a kind of advance on the more limiting political vision of Kranti. That film was already looking ahead to the politics-to-come (no surprise I suppose coming from Manoj Kumar). Where in a very BJP-ised (before the event) view of India you have the token Muslim doing his part for the cause. Even if I love the film this is hardly Desai’s world! Now it’s a different matter that things have come to such a sorry pass since that even Karim Khan in that film would probably seem offensive to many in the present in as much as there is simply no ‘normal’ place for the minority (specially the Muslim, but also the Christian) in the contemporary Hindutva imagining. Which is why there is no good Akbar to bad Aurangzeb as was commonly understood to be the opposition forever. Now every such king is by definition a foreigner and bad. It’s a symptom of the same logic. Kranti then would be an upgrade! And so at this precise time I am happy to accept the Thugs offering! This might well be the most important thing about the film.

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        • Good observation on the Kranti/Karim Khan.

          In todays world, there would have to be few dialogues by Karim where he is proving that he loves his country.

          Can’t remember Shatrus dialogues from Kranti but wouldn’t be surprised if there were dialogues like that even than.

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    • Bachchan, Aamir, Katrina…all of them look thakela…should have made movie with a better cast. Some actor should have played younger version of Amitabh, younger version of Aamir, with some past/present scenes going. Somehow to make them central characters for 3+ hours, in a movie this physical and watch the old people doing sword fighting in their graves is so boring. and unbelievable even though that base and that voice is to die for , effort of liftingg that heavy sword is gonna put you in hospital. Bigb looks like Geoffrey Rush with nose falling off and Aamir looks like garibo kaa Johnny Depp. And botox queen looks like the plastic might melt any minute in that dance workout routine that she already did and we have already seen before it in dhoom and chikni chameli. So much glitter and shiney halloween stuff on her face that her makeup person should be fired. Meh. Will pass this one. Ok now I need a shield for all the angry arrows that come my way from AK and bigb fans. P.S. I am a fan too but of their older works.

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      • What an ageist comment. But so typical of much that passes off in social media, as comment. As if the over-fifties have lost their right to be seen in public space.

        The making features reveal how difficult it was for Bachchan senior to have done this role, at age 75. Playing an old warrior, the man has lived up to his role, from whatever one sees in promos. Hats off Mr. B.

        The ridiculous charge of Aamir being a desi Jack Sparrow and the film a poor Indian version of POC….it may or may not hold water, but most Indians won’t care. Many of us have not bothered to watch the Pirates films. Maybe bits and pieces of the first film, if at all. The film’s dress designers have spoken about Aamir’s character and dress. There is an interview with them. Aamir’s character seems to be an orphan survivor of British atrocities, a magpie thief who collects his bits, carrying his life on his person. He is surely going to lighten a grim story.

        The dress designer duo talk about Big B.

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        • “What an ageist comment.”
          Guilty as charged.
          And also agree that desi audience will not find problem not having watched PoC. I agree.
          But as far as film making goes, there is nothing new here. It is the S-A-M-E old, S-A-M-E old–ghisa-pita, been-there-done-see-that sort of trope. So very bohrrrring. And those ships. *eye-roll*. Even in this latest song. Yawn. Will pass.

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      • Swati, all good points. The fix is easy. Save your money and don’t watch the movie.

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  87. Bob Cristo Says:

    Loving it..I am loving it. People are using heavy word like Texture, Structure for this crapfest song. Aamir’s film is immune from any crticism in this blog. Though feeling bad for Katrina. Fatima is in good book (everyone know) of Aamir so she get plum role and All Katrina is left with Tiltation.

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    • “Aamir’s film is immune from any crticism in this blog. ”

      you might need Eng lessons if you haven’t been following the comments on Thugs. of course it’s also pretty remarkable that someone who thinks Swades is an incredible example of cinema and who also thinks SRK was phenomenal here should find Aamir overrated. If SRK were doing the same films you might have called his work better than Ray’s! Aamir has done good work most of the time since Lagaan, a lot of these films have been trendsetters. You can still call his work overrated as long as you thens top watching Bollywood altogether (or confine yourself to the arthouse circuit.. though Aamir’s done one film hear too! DG). As for Thugs it is what it is, a large screen period spectacle. No one’s confused that it’s RDB! It is being judged according to its own merits or demerits. A lot of what is in the trailers is par for the course for this genre. Nonetheless many of us have been critical at points. There was even for that matter a lot of criticism of RDB recently. But again you might need English lessons for all this. I do agree some of us are very guilty here for liking films like Lagaan, DCH, RDB, MP, Talaash, Dangal, 3I etc. Since Aamir isn’t in Swades we have to make do with these.

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    • Your own criteria for choosing 3 masala films –
      – Actress are there for just song and dance or to captured by the villanes then there is a climax song in villanes den.

      You should be happy for Katrina 😀

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    • How bizarre you make this comment and Katrina’s legs are flaunting all over Zero’s first poster! Great timing…

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  88. Thugs Of Hindostan FINALLY To Release In Madhya Pradesh; Multiplex Strike Issue Resolved!
    In protest against the additional taxation, multiplex operators in Madhya Pradesh discontinued the operations from 5 October on all films in Bhopal and Indore.

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    • Have been off radar for sometime now..but This must be an aamir film after long time with less buzz than usual. I got this feedback from many sources..maybe they want to surprise the audience..I don’t think it will affect opening one bit though..45 cr should be there for the taking..south will be affected by sarkar..

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    • That’s good news. Big number arriving in one week!

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  89. With the growing buzz around the ambitious Thugs Of Hindostan, IMAX Corporation has opened advance booking for the film a day before the other screens.

    The Yash Raj Films’ much-anticipated film will be releasing across 17 IMAX theatres in India and selected international markets beginning November 8.

    Advance booking will start from November 2 across all operators, a day prior to the advance booking for other screens, read a statement.

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    • Got it on my mobile

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    • This is why Aamir is pure genius when it comes to marketing.

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      • Some made fun of aamir for riding a donkey. And he cleverly used it for his advantage.
        It is like who bats first. TOH is batting first and if it accumulates more crores, then others like Rajni and Srk have to chase it.
        Once it releases in China, again race will start like BB2 versus Dangal.

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  90. Yash Raj earns big from ‘Thugs of Hindostan’ before release
    Amazon Prime Video and Sony Pictures Networks will get the rights to ’Thugs of Hindostan for between Rs 60-70 crore each.

    https://www.livemint.com/Consumer/DBE7dNsYOZTv5TPRNUkbBP/Yash-Raj-earns-big-from-Thugs-of-Hindostan-before-release.html

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  91. Talking to Firstpost, Chinese box office tracker Gavin Feng said, “The buy-out price paid for Thugs of Hindostan is estimated between $15 to 20 million (Rs 110 to 147 crore). In the history of the Chinese film market, Iron Man 3 is the only buy-out film which was priced more than $10 million (Iron Man 3 was not sold on revenue-sharing basis owing to some exceptional reasons unlike most Hollywood blockbusters). Now, Aamir Khan and Yash Raj Films probably would get more money if they manage to secure a split deal like Secret Superstar. The Indian investors may ink an agreement with E Stars saying that if the film crosses $100 million (or any particular milestone) in China, they will get a certain amount of share from the revenue garnered over and above $100 million.”
    https://www.firstpost.com/entertainment/aamir-khans-thugs-of-hindostan-may-release-in-china-on-14-december-e-star-films-acquire-theatrical-rights-5483371.html/amp?__twitter_impression=true&fbclid=IwAR226zOQZxjyctcDuTiDFR1EU87p2eljg2o7OiCUq5_mcG1BFl2WYRS6nHY

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  92. In order to use the feature, launch Google Maps (once you have updated it), and put in a destination you want to navigate to. Now, when you have done that, next to the start button, you will see a tiny round icon that shows an animated Aamir Khan sitting on his animated donkey. Click on that and you will have two options — Chalo or Na Rey. The former will guide you to your destination.

    Oh, and don’t forget to turn on the speaker when navigating. We won’t spoil it for you, but the new voice guidance with Firangi is hilarious.

    Unfortunately, Aamir Khan will only accompany you in the driving mode of Google Maps.

    Starting today, both Android and iOS users of Google Maps will see a new icon on Google Maps that will let them choose Aamir Khan aka Firangi (his character in the film), riding a donkey, instead of the boring old arrow.

    This feature has been rolled out today and is slowly being made available to all users. If you are not seeing the feature yet, it’s because you will have to update your app from the Play Store or App Store first.

    Also, Firangi and his donkey are available only for a limited time. Google India tells us that the feature will only be available for the next two weeks. The movie, Thugs of Hindostan, will release on 8 November 2018.

    https://www.firstpost.com/tech/news-analysis/google-maps-now-lets-android-ios-users-navigate-in-thugs-of-hindostan-style-5486431.html

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    • I think they ran out of clothing to make anymore songs…

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    • On audio, songs have now grown on me.
      Especially Suraiyaa…Katrina has a big huge song here. It is massy and classy at the same time.

      Vashmalle is foot tapping…good but not great.

      Manzoor-e-khuda is better with visuals as it seems to be situational. The song also reveals that Katrina is Aamitabh’s daughter. I hope Aamir is not the son as it would be anti climax. 🙂

      All the songs have grand loud music…something that Laxmikant Pyaarelal used to compose in latter part of their work.

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  93. I feel less songs means more story. They could have experimented the film without any songs. Katrina need not have been a dancing girl. 15 to 20 minutes would have been saved. But then they want to sell music rights and make money. And songs also serve as teasers. And then there are B centres.
    They found the middle way of having less songs and those songs are also situational. Not running around in foreign locales singing usual songs. Or shaadiwala songs where everyone dances like in Kjo films. Only regret is that Fatima SS does not mainly feature in any song. There could have been a song while riding the donkey.

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  94. Has anyone watched/watching “Haunting of Hill House” netflix? Could we have a separate thread to discuss it. It is awesome show and should not be missed. It is beyond just horror genre. Worth repeat watches.

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  95. I did recco it to J and others interested:)
    Neck bent episode 😦

    @ Satam/ Saket/ Q : Give it a watch. U gonna adore it.

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    • Episode 6 is master piece. In film making. I suppose. That one I watched again. But the whole series is just fantabulous. Someone went ga-ga over it and I watched it based on their enthusiasm because I am not into horror stuff. The scary bit is fun but it was not the most thrilling aspect (though it is thrilling indeed) of the show for me. It is the other layers, the characters, plot, psychological analysis…If there is perfection in all aspect of making movie/series, then this is it. This is a work of art-auteur director for sure. Absolutely loved it. Bliss, you and I, the great minds, think alike. :- )))))

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    • Toh will release in China either before the Christmas holidays (mid Dec) or before Chinese new year (in mid Jan). If this was an AKP film it would have probably got a revenue sharing deal.

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    • This is easily my favorite song and trailer so far. Because it really captures the vitality of the tradition (masala) much more than all the other trailers including the theatrical one. Both the sound and the visuals. The Suraiyya and Vashmalle trailers are entertaining but the songs aren’t up to the mark. With the former the composers have gone in for a somewhat ‘nostalgic’ 50s kind of sound quality but it’s not a great tune. The songs are the sort that seem ok with ‘repetition’ as is the case for most music these days. But this particular one (manzoor-e-khuda) gets it right in every sense.

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  100. IdeaUnique Says:

    booked tickets for 12 noon show – TOH – 8 Nov

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  102. This theme music matches the majesty of Bachchan.
    Like some hollywood movie.

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  103. Thugs of Hindostan BTS video reveals where the film’s climax will be set
    A new Thugs of Hindostan BTS video, about the importance of Jodhpur’s Mehrangarh fort, reveals that the film’s opening scene and conclusion will be set there.
    BOLLYWOOD Updated: Nov 03, 2018 16:08 IST

    Because the fort is such an important tourist destination in Jodhpur, the film’s crew went to great lengths to not disrupt holidayers’ plans. “We never had a problem with either the tourists or the management,” Amitabh continues.

    Acharya even revealed that they cast several foreigners as extras in the film by going to the airport in the morning and simply asking them. “I always wanted to be in a movie,” a Danish tourist says in the video, “and now I’ve seen a lot of famous Indian actors, so that’s quite cool.”

    Acharya said that the film’s opening scene and conclusion are set in Mehrangarh, which is why it was such an important location.

    https://www.hindustantimes.com/bollywood/thugs-of-hindostan-bts-video-reveals-where-the-film-s-climax-will-be-set/story-CX7wGtzuOZIIITAS8LcnyM.html

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  104. Watching a film in 4DX is like being a part of the story in more ways than one. One can touch, feel and sense many moments that happens onscreen. From explosions of fog, smoke or a gentle breeze, this viewing experience makes a viewer feel all of it, while sitting on specially designed seats with specially positioned sound systems. One can also smell different scents and feel a turbulent storm raging onscreen. While watching Thugs of Hindostan, details of a raging sea, an action packed battle and elements like sword fights and changes in weather will be felt vividly on 4DX. One can also feel bubbles and droplets of rain. This technology is the ultimate in state of the art technology delivering a fully immersive cinematic experience. Inside every dedicated 4DX auditorium, motion chairs and environmental effects such as wind, bubbles, and scent work in perfect synchronicity with the action on screen. By taking Thugs to a 4DX experience, Yash Raj Films has taken a quantum leap for Hindi cinema to a whole new way of enjoying the magic of movies.

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  105. Thugs of Hindostan, the action packed mythical mega flick set on the high seas, will release in 4DX at PVR Cinemas and Cinepolis Cinemas in India. VOX theatres in UAE – Oman, Qatar, Egypt and Lebanon. In the United Kingdom, Cineworld will feature the film in 4DX. KNCC will show it in Kuwait, and Mars cinemas in Turkey. The film will also release in this innovative, mega sensory experience in France.

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  106. https://www.deccanchronicle.com/entertainment/bollywood/031118/thugs-of-hindostan-aamir-khan-big-b-film-is-money-making-machine-ahe.html

    In order to encash on the lucrative Diwali release, the ticket prices for the film have been hiked by at least 10 percent higher than those of Ranbir Kapoor’s Sanju, according to a report by Bollywood Hungama. The report also suggested that YRF had reportedly asked cinema hall owners across the country to increase the ticket prices for the shows during the four-day extended weekend and subsequently slash the price by 25 percent on weekdays. Cinema halls were asked to confirm the price before opening their advance bookings

    In an interview with PinkVilla, trade analyst Girish Johar said, “The makers are targeting the widest release across all the regions in the country. They are tapping new markets. In India, they are coming right after Diwali which is the biggest Box Office day for India. A film opening on the day, big names and high end ticket prices – so I am sure unheard numbers are going to come out. I am expecting it will be the first film to cross the half century in terms of nett box office. I am still waiting to know whether the film is releasing in the US on 8th or not but Dubai I am sure it will release on Thursday.”

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  107. IdeaUnique Says:

    tried pasting link of CWK – aamir episode….

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  108. BREAKING: Aamir Khan’s Thugs Of Hindostan To Release In China In January – Film To Be Submitted To Censors Soon!
    Recently, a few Aamir fans from China revealed that they would he travelling all the way to India to watch Thugs Of Hindostan.

    https://www.koimoi.com/bollywood-news/breaking-aamir-khans-thugs-of-hindostan-to-release-in-china-in-january-film-to-be-submitted-to-censors-soon/

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  109. aamirsaurabh Says:

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